●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 31, 2022 ●● ● Mar 31 [00:02] activelow i see, they are incestious associated with each other: KPMG, IBM, Atlantik Brcke, RAND Corp., Washington [00:03] activelow it is important, any business entity or political party, it is all shallow labels, a camouflage of the real entities involved behind the scenes [00:03] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:03] activelow the entire "eco activist" movements, are agent provocateurs, false flag operatives, indoctrinated with propaganda lies [00:03] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:04] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:04] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:04] activelow one favorite, is the "climate change" one, which they argue 1.5C maximum temperature increase, while temperature anomalies surpassed 10C already in Germany [00:05] activelow so, they hijacked this, knowing, they couldn't hide the truth anymore, and talke about 1.5C... just an example, of the psycho fuckery of theirs [00:05] activelow same with the "carbon certificates", to funnel cash to Tesla shareholders, it's all propaganda scam [00:06] activelow with the aim of land grabbing, power grabbing, looting... as they did in east-germany for example, and then tried to proceed into White-Russia and Ukraine [00:07] activelow to accomplish this, entire military capabilities were dismantled, in east-germany, all University CEOs replaced, scientific staff oppressed [00:07] activelow semiconductor manufacturing destroyed, which was a knee-jerk to say the least, just a side-note [00:07] DaemonFC so, they hijacked this, knowing, they couldn't hide the truth anymore, and talke about 1.5C... just an example, of the psycho fuckery of theirs [00:08] DaemonFC Temperatures in parts of Antarctica are 70 F above normal. [00:08] DaemonFC The billionaire news is saying it's a great time to vacation there. [00:08] MinceR they should all go there, then [00:08] MinceR and not come back [00:10] DaemonFC MinceR, They always find a way to make the horrible shit they do sound pleasant. [00:10] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22032330 [00:10] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/mx0g3ual32o81.png created on 2022-03-23 12:58:29.648236 [00:11] DaemonFC And they make their victims sound like pests and vermin. Like how mjg59_'s mayor calls homeless "Difficult Street People". [00:11] psydruid selling out to US interests was a precondition for West Germany and East Germany to be reunited? [00:11] DaemonFC Very SJW-ish, you know. [00:11] activelow psydruid: germany never had been re-united [00:11] DaemonFC The cops beat them up. They're barely human. "Difficult Street People" [00:12] DaemonFC Take a shit on the floor. Get Schwifty in San Francisco. [00:12] DaemonFC And all that. [00:12] MinceR just a hybrid of streets and people [00:12] DaemonFC These rich assholes move in and gentrify a place and they completely level everything that was there. Suck the charm and uniqueness entirely out of it. [00:13] DaemonFC Then laugh about the $6,000 a month rents. [00:13] psydruid activelow, what exactly happened then? former East Germany became West Germany losing its entire identity? [00:14] DaemonFC Most of them are just a bunch of buggering hipsters who never plan to have heirs and so they don't care if it's ruined years from now to the point where it will never be okay again. [00:14] psydruid I've only been to Berlin in the east [00:14] DaemonFC People there "get it". [00:14] activelow psydruid: land and power grab, to loot and plunder [00:15] DaemonFC They obviously want Waukegan now. Noboy gave two shits and a fuck about the coal plant belching out pollution on black people for 70 years. [00:15] DaemonFC But now that the Mr. GOOOOOOOLAGs want MOAR real estate, they have to shut it down. [00:15] activelow to remain fair, i appreciate buildings were re-constructed, and investments into infrastructure; nonetheless they did it to benefit themselves [00:15] DaemonFC So probably within the next 5-10 years. [00:16] DaemonFC They'll get it. [00:16] activelow which is one explanation, why _many_ investments ended as money graveyard in east germany [00:16] DaemonFC Then it will be as expensive as the rest of Lake County. [00:17] DaemonFC Nobody gave a shit about the ethylene oxide or the coal plants or the PCBs until the Mr. GOOLAGs said that's a nice city you got there. [00:17] DaemonFC Be a shame if someone chased you out and made the rent $6,000. [00:18] DaemonFC https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cnns-new-streaming-service-already-headed-layoffs-amid-lackluster-sales [00:18] TR Bot New Streaming Service Already Headed For Layoffs Amid Dismal Sales | ZeroHedge [00:19] DaemonFC CNN.....rapists, chomos, and Democrats.... It's the same thing really. Now with an entire section of Amazon products. [00:19] psydruid so with all the money Germany has why doesn't it restart its independent technological development instead of being desperate to attract Intel? [00:20] psydruid I've read about Magdeburg, but why is Intel needed there? [00:20] activelow psydruid: i couldn't at least afford to rent an appropriate flat and some office space [00:21] activelow as far as i am concerned, i am wondering why Intel is greeted friendly, instead of with tanks and strela rockets [00:21] DaemonFC CNN is actually so cold that they're doing the whole Ukraine disaster porn thing and then cutting away to an Applebee's commercial with people dancing and singing about shitty Applebee's food while the ticker talks about people starving in Ukraine. [00:21] activelow oh wait, those strela rockets were shipped to Ukraine [00:22] DaemonFC "The network has been working on the launch since the summer of 2021 and has invested nearly $100 million in the venture. CNN owner WarnerMedia is asking viewers to fork over $5.99 a month for the service." [00:22] DaemonFC $6 to watch CNN? LOL [00:23] DaemonFC "As of May 2021, the median age of a CNN viewer was 64 (which is still lower than the average age for Fox, at 68). " [00:23] psydruid lol [00:23] DaemonFC In other words, the people who haven't pulled the plug on cable yet and are statistically going to die in about 5-6 years. [00:23] psydruid dying "news" networks [00:23] DaemonFC CNN was good in the 90s. [00:23] DaemonFC They were an okay network for most of the 2000s. [00:24] DaemonFC Now it's a bunch of pedophiles and rapists giving each other blowjobs in front of......64 year old viewers who care what those people have to say about a guy who isn't even the president anymore. [00:25] DaemonFC https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/shanghai-residents-struggle-obtain-food-medicine-citywide-lockdown-continues [00:25] TR Bot Residents Struggle To Obtain Food & Medicine As Citywide Lockdown Continues | ZeroHedge [00:25] DaemonFC China is killing itself with the lockdowns. [00:26] DaemonFC I wonder how long this will go on before CEOs that outsourced there admit it was a lousy idea in the long run really. [00:26] DaemonFC "Lin Mei, a local resident living in Shanghais Pudong district who asked to use a pseudonym, told The Epoch Times on March 28 that the lockdown came as a surprise, and said the citys authorities should have warned them ahead of time so they could stock up. [00:26] DaemonFC Lin, who is nearly 60 years old, said local authorities should be considerate to seniors like her, since many of them need nonstop medical attention. As for her, she said she has been suffering from kidney stone pain for over 10 years. [00:26] DaemonFC Last week, my kidney stone disease acted up again. I wanted to go see urologists at major hospitals but their services were suspended, she said. I went to a small clinic but the doctors prescription drugs were not powerful enough to subdue my pain. [00:26] DaemonFC So the pain persisted and I ended up having a fever, Lin said, before adding that all she could do now was drink plenty of water since she couldnt go out." [00:27] DaemonFC That's what you get with Communism. [00:27] DaemonFC If I had kidney stones I could see a doctor about it probably next week and we'd be going into surgery if it came to that in 2-3 weeks. [00:27] DaemonFC In places like Ireland and Canada, you're waiting many months, sometimes years. [00:28] DaemonFC People from there come here and talk about how shitty it actually is where they're from. Like there's a system, but it's so backlogged and under-funded that they'll just get to you if you're still alive when it's your turn. [00:28] DaemonFC In the mean time, enjoy the kidney stones all year. [00:29] activelow almost all "solar panels", subsidized with trillions in germany, are made in china... with coal and nuclear power plants required; just recently 10 new coal power plants in china, meanwhile in germany the solar panels produced in China supposedly "safe the planet", "the climate", "humanity" and whatnot [00:30] activelow same with the wind turbines, each produced from a dozen ton of steel, require nuclear and coal power plants nearby, to produce them, the wind mills, which are "renewable energy" they say [00:32] activelow if any of such wind turbines is placed into an ecological forest region, the region in question isn't a natural reserve anymore, the surrounding region of wind turbines is designated as "industrial" area then, with permissions to construct buildings etc. [00:33] activelow housing to provide "alliance90/greens" with their ecological living space, which is land-grabbing [00:35] activelow and now, they order ballistic missiles from Israel, you see, Abrams Tanks from USA, Intel fabs in east-germany [00:35] activelow Elon Musk with his Tesla Factory in Berlin... new railway stations were planned and constructed long before Elon announced his new Giga-Factory in Berlin [00:38] activelow the recent "special emergency budget", 100billion, used to acquire F-35 and located exactly where? [00:38] activelow probably Ramstein Airbase, which i wonder it wasn't closed yet, after 1990 and aggressions of USA around the globe [00:43] psydruid the Chinese replace their power plants every few years based on the latest r&d instead of keeping them going for decades [00:50] DaemonFC There's basically no laws to protect the environment in China. [00:51] DaemonFC The air quality in the cities is horrible. The Communists do what they do everywhere and fix it by lying. [00:51] MinceR in hungary, such laws probably exist, but they're ignored by the state whenever orban or his pals violate them [00:51] DaemonFC The US embassy in Beijing monitors air quality and posts it on the embassy website. The Chinese firewall blocks it so nobody living there can see what they breathe. [00:52] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:52] DaemonFC The Communists have never disputed the US embassy's readings. They just block them at the firewall level. [00:53] MinceR :> [00:53] MinceR typical authoritarian attitude [00:55] *activelow has quit (Quit: rebooting) [00:55] DaemonFC https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3138646/us-embassy-beijing-turns-attention-ozone-levels-more-decade [00:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: scmp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3138646/us-embassy-beijing-turns-attention-ozone-levels-more-decade [00:55] TR Bot US embassy in Beijing turns attention to ozone levels more than a decade after pollution updates spurred authorities into action | South China Morning Post [00:56] DaemonFC MinceR, "Sandstorm" is what they call it when someone pictures how bad the smog is that day. [00:57] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [00:57] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU [00:57] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU [00:57] TR Bot yewtu.be | Darude - Sandstorm - Invidious [00:57] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:57] DaemonFC https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/d8/images/methode/2021/06/25/b7c5fbfa-d4e2-11eb-8921-c363d46ef7af_1320x770_062050.jpg [00:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: i-scmp.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://cdn.i-scmp.com/sites/default/files/d8/images/methode/2021/06/25/b7c5fbfa-d4e2-11eb-8921-c363d46ef7af_1320x770_062050.jpg [00:58] DaemonFC MinceR, "Could you imagine if every Chinese person should get a car?" -Fidel Castro [00:58] DaemonFC Most of them don't have one now and it looks this bad. [00:58] MinceR they'll never be able to afford one [00:58] MinceR not even a red chinese "car" [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 46.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 84.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 469.88 [00:59] *activelow (~activelow@5c84rj45gkqvi.irc) has joined #techrights [00:59] DaemonFC No, the government is too busy building empty cities that fall apart with nobody to live there or maintain them. [00:59] DaemonFC State-mandated GDP, MinceR [00:59] DaemonFC Full employmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeent! [00:59] MinceR lol ● Mar 31 [01:00] DaemonFC To infinity, and beyond! [01:00] DaemonFC 11% MinceR 11%! [01:00] DaemonFC If we build pretend shopping malls, I think we can do it. [01:01] *swaggboi has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:01] DaemonFC Then of course there will be nothing to buy there, and all the apartments will be empty, and nobody to use the roads. [01:01] MinceR finally, a place for pretend shopping [01:01] DaemonFC But it's a big country. We'll just start over somewhere else and let all this fall apart and then come back and build it again. [01:02] DaemonFC finally, a place for pretend shopping [01:03] DaemonFC There's the pretend Apple store. [01:03] kingoffrance yeah thats why 'to the moon' is so funny.....wallstreetbets. thats pretty much how 'the system' operates, no need to 'rebel' [01:03] DaemonFC I'll be over there pretending to buy some Nike shoes if you need me for anything. [01:03] DaemonFC Then we can go eat imaginary cheese pretzels in the imaginary food court. [01:03] MinceR :> [01:03] DaemonFC I was thinking about catching an imaginary movie at the imagination theater later. [01:04] DaemonFC Do you imagine there's anything they haven't censored? [01:04] psydruid didn't lots of malls get abandoned? [01:04] DaemonFC In the United States? Tons of them. But they were real at one point. [01:04] DaemonFC Shopper preference changed. [01:05] DaemonFC There's an entire shopping mall in Marion, Indiana, falling apart. [01:05] DaemonFC It's all closed except the Applebee's, the restrooms, and a discount department store. [01:05] DaemonFC Marion has turned into Little Chicago. [01:06] DaemonFC When I lived there, it was safe. [01:06] DaemonFC Grandma is in a nursing home there, and it's about the only thing in the city that still is nice. [01:06] DaemonFC A place for people who had money to wait to die. [01:07] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/privacy-shield-redo [01:07] TR Bot Shield: Whats in the U.S.-EU agreement - Protocol [01:07] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/silenced-no-more-washington-law [01:07] TR Bot No More Act becomes law in Washington state - Protocol [01:07] DaemonFC MinceR, I was watching Star Trek: TNG again. There was that episode where everyone who reached 60 was expected to kill themselves. [01:07] MinceR they could just automatically generate red chinese style movies [01:07] DaemonFC To spare their children the burden of taking care of them later. [01:08] AdmFubar oh this is grand!!! https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-meta-customer-data-hack [01:08] MinceR just render a screen of text saying "Bad people did bad things, but the police apprehended them successfully and they were punished." [01:08] TR Bot Meta gave customer data in response to fake requests - Protocol [01:08] DaemonFC just render a screen of text saying "Bad people did bad things, but the police apprehended them successfully and they were punished." [01:08] DaemonFC Crime-Fiction-Police Procedural [01:08] MinceR not sure about that [01:09] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-payments-fintech-finance [01:09] TR Bot is building its own payments tech so it can be less reliant on partners - Protocol [01:09] MinceR they did this to Fight Club [01:10] DaemonFC What, seriously? [01:10] DaemonFC No Tyler Durden blowing up the bank's computers to erase the debt? 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[01:36] DaemonFC Instead of a successful plot to destroy a series of buildings, the Chinese version of the cult classic starring Brad Pitt and Edward Norton ends with a note to viewers saying that the police rapidly figured out the whole plan and arrested all criminals, successfully preventing the bomb from exploding." [01:36] DaemonFC :/ [01:36] DaemonFC That doesn't sound like the police. [01:36] DaemonFC There's some people in Nashville who might agree. [01:37] AdmFubar https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/mar/30/ronin-project-blockchain-cryptocurrency-heist [01:37] TR Bot Hackers stole over $500m in cryptocurrency in record-making heist, Ronin says | Cryptocurrencies | The Guardian [01:37] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nashville_bombing [01:37] TR Bot 2020 Nashville bombing - Wikipedia [01:37] MinceR it's what red china wants people to think of its police [01:38] DaemonFC The US too, but most people would never believe it. [01:40] DaemonFC MinceR, They really don't need to alter movies like that anymore. [01:41] DaemonFC In 1999 they didn't just hand the script over to the Chinese censors to begin with. [01:41] MinceR yeah [01:43] DaemonFC "As for Pitts character, the note says, he was sent to an asylum and later discharged. (Never mind that the character is actually a figment of Nortons characters imagination.)" [01:43] DaemonFC LMAO [01:43] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [01:43] DaemonFC The cops are so good, they managed to arrest the hallucination and send THAT to the asylum. [01:43] MinceR yeah [01:44] DaemonFC "The censored ending was discovered recently by fans in China who watched it on a streaming platform owned by Tencent, a giant Chinese entertainment company." [01:44] DaemonFC Isn't that the one that streams movies they grabbed off of BitTorrent? [01:45] DaemonFC "This is SUPER wonderful! Everyone gets a happy ending in China! Chuck Palahniuk, the writer whose 1996 novel inspired the film, wrote sarcastically on Twitter. But he also said in an interview with TMZ on Wednesday that the censored ending was closer to the ending of his book, in which the bomb malfunctions and the narrator wakes up in a mental hospital after shooting himself." [01:45] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@qiahibkh2iwka.irc) has joined #techrights [01:46] DaemonFC Shooting yourself is how the police solve it. [01:46] DaemonFC In Communist China you know your own guilt is so strong that you get out ahead of them. [01:47] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [01:48] DaemonFC https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-entertainment-pirates-idUSPEK19683420070615 [01:48] TR Bot censors "Pirates" for "vilifying Chinese" | Reuters [01:48] DaemonFC "An early example of such censorship is The Inescapable Snare, a re-edited version of Naked Ambition, a 2003 Hong Kong film about the local sex industry. The mainland version adds a plot twist in which Hong Kong police officers team up with Beijings Ministry of Public Security to crack down on pornography and prostitution." [01:49] DaemonFC Leaping tall buildings in a single bound. Shutting down the world's oldest profession! It's a bird, it's a plane, no! It's the ...... Beijing Ministry of Public Security? 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TotalIn: 16 GB TotalOut: 3.4 GB [03:06] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:07] IPFS QmcKAXzUKRMGp3YdQETGwbF7nS2hNTSzE84u2fb9P3tEDf [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:07] activelow at that time... year 2013-2015... things changed: aarch64 support, gcc switched to c++, gentoo migrating to git [03:07] activelow emergence of C11 [03:08] activelow not sure about llvm/clang, when this became a big deal [03:08] activelow and i have to dig into archives rather often... to pick up relevant ebuilds and sources [03:09] activelow if i didn't know, what to look for... at least it's still there [03:11] activelow it was kernel-4.4 little later which nuked aboriginal linux, de-stabilized some toolchain support for j-core [03:11] activelow and again, the old archive did contain the last supported kernel version predating 4.4; there was another leap [03:12] activelow obviously, some business entity had alot of control and influence, over what was done to the free software source trees, of almost everything [03:12] activelow kernel, toolchain, gentoo itself... and alot of things broke [03:15] activelow anyway, downgrading binutils, to some almost 10year old version too [03:15] activelow can't review all of it, yet it seems a safe bet to not rely upon recent "innovation" [03:15] activelow of the last decade, whenever possible [03:21] AdmFubar https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/nikola-tesla-in-his-laboratory [03:21] TR Bot Earthen Messages: Nikola Tesla in his Laboratory (ca. 1899) The Public Domain Review [03:24] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [03:24] AdmFubar this is really creepy [03:24] AdmFubar https://eclecticlight.co/2022/03/27/last-week-on-my-mac-when-visual-look-up-fails/ [03:24] TR Bot Last Week on My Mac: When Visual Look Up fails The Eclectic Light Company [03:27] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/apparently-unwilling-to-learn-from-florida-texass-failures-georgia-moves-forward-with-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ [03:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/28/apparently-unwilling-to-learn-from-florida-texass-failures-georgia-moves-forward-with-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ [03:27] TR Bot Unwilling To Learn From Florida & Texass Failures, Georgia Moves Forward With Unconstitutional Content Moderation Bill | Techdirt [03:33] AdmFubar https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2022/03/carbon-coated-nickel-enables-fuel-cell-free-precious-metals [03:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: cornell.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.cornell.edu/stories/2022/03/carbon-coated-nickel-enables-fuel-cell-free-precious-metals [03:33] TR Bot Carbon-coated nickel enables fuel cell free of precious metals | Cornell Chronicle [03:35] AdmFubar help help!! the help files are after me! https://www.techradar.com/news/vidar-spyware-is-now-hidden-in-microsoft-help-files [03:35] TR Bot spyware is now hidden in Microsoft help files | TechRadar [03:37] activelow it is noteworthy too, both ARM and amd64 arrived at a dead end with the criteria of mine: with amd64 it is mainly UEFI which isn't accepted, and with aarch64 it is missing toolchain support with compiler and binutils [03:38] activelow with aarch32 it is relatively difficult, to acquire various SBC already (rockchip for example, or RPI3 not produced anymore), to plan long-term with [03:39] activelow at least aarch32 hardware is available, and some of it widespread; [03:40] activelow too, open j-core hardware is known supported with the legacy GNU software, too SPARC leon should be [03:41] activelow both j-core and SPARC leon support for TinyCC are missing, at least i can begin with aarch32 and repair what fails with TinyCC, step-by-step [03:43] activelow RISC-V isn't an option yet anyway, because it depends on recent kernel version and toolchain (binutils/gcc if i am not mistaken); and kernel updates to any later than v5.10 are ruled out currently [03:43] activelow instead, if anyone could confirm any later kernel version can be compiled with TinyCC, removed some C11; doubt this will happen [03:45] activelow it is a rather narrow path remaining only, a bleeding edge to balance onto, hoping testicles aren't hurt by accident with one step taken in error [03:45] activelow and proprietary mines planted everywhere [03:57] AdmFubar https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-allegedly-hid-documents-from-search-monopoly-lawsuit-doj-claims/ [03:57] TR Bot allegedly hid documents from search monopoly lawsuit, DOJ claims | ZDNet [03:58] AdmFubar https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60870287 [03:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-60870287 [03:58] TR Bot agrees new law to curb Big Tech dominance - BBC News [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 56.05 average k/sec., average swarm size 836.08 ● Mar 31 [04:02] AdmFubar https://www.lioness.co/post/microsoft-is-using-illegal-bribes-in-the-middle-east-and-africa-why-is-the-sec-turning-a-blind-eye [04:02] TR Bot Microsoft is using illegal bribes in the Middle East and Africa. Why is the SEC turning a blind eye? [04:13] AdmFubar https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/03/26/0526241/watch-out-facebook-american-non-profit-creates-social-network-for-older-adults?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [04:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/03/26/0526241/watch-out-facebook-american-non-profit-creates-social-network-for-older-adults?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed [04:13] TR Bot Watch Out, Facebook. American Non-Profit Creates Social Network for Older Adults - Slashdot [04:35] DaemonFC https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/30/23001747/disney-dont-say-gay-bill-florida-desantis [04:35] TR Bot Disney wants to see Floridas Dont Say Gay law repealed - The Verge [04:36] DaemonFC They were for it before they were against it. [04:39] DaemonFC "Speaking during a trip to Canberra on Thursday at the Australian National University, Sir Jeremy Fleming, Director of GCHQ, the UK's Intelligence, Cyber and Security Agency said, it increasingly looks like Putin has massively misjudged the situation. Its clear he misjudged the resistance of the Ukrainian people. [04:39] DaemonFC Fleming said Putin over-estimated the abilities of the Russian military to secure a quick victory. [04:39] DaemonFC Weve seen Russian soldiers short of weapons and morale refusing to carry out orders, sabotaging their own equipment and even accidentally shooting down their own aircraft, he said without specifying when or where this took place. [04:39] DaemonFC Even though we believe Putins advisers are afraid to tell him the truth, whats going on and the extent of these misjudgments must be crystal clear to the regime, he said." [04:42] DaemonFC https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/03/30/2259245/apple-and-meta-gave-user-data-to-hackers-who-used-forged-legal-requests [04:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: slashdot.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://yro.slashdot.org/story/22/03/30/2259245/apple-and-meta-gave-user-data-to-hackers-who-used-forged-legal-requests [04:42] TR Bot Apple and Meta Gave User Data to Hackers Who Used Forged Legal Requests - Slashdot [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 225.96 ● Mar 31 [05:05] AdmFubar it appears they are not only proud of this... but smug about it too https://gizmodo.com/nestle-denies-anonymous-hack-claims-says-it-leaked-dat-1848691484 [05:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/nestle-denies-anonymous-hack-claims-says-it-leaked-dat-1848691484 [05:05] TR Bot Nestle Denies Anonymous Hack Claims, Says It Leaked Data Itself [05:06] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:07] AdmFubar https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/linux-improves-its-random-number-generator.html [05:07] TR Bot Improves Its Random Number Generator - Schneier on Security [05:10] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, March 30, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [05:10] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [05:10] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [05:10] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [05:13] TR News Bribery is the main modus operandi of Microsoft; dont fall for the lie/delusion of GitHub being a separate company http://techrights.org/2022/03/30/microsoft-osi-and-redmonk/ [05:13] TR Bot Microsoft: Bribing With Both Hands | Techrights [05:14] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [05:15] TR News "While basic advice for compression is simpleenable it!recordsize is a more challenging topic." https://klarasystems.com/articles/tuning-recordsize-in-openzfs/ [05:15] TR Bot Tuning recordsize in OpenZFS | Klara Inc. [05:15] TR News "I mentioned the Wordle craze, including the extant ports to the Commodore 64, in our KIMdle sorta-Wordle for the KIM-1. But the Commodore 64, and I suspect this was actually a PET game originally" https://oldvcr.blogspot.com/2022/03/prior-art-dept-5-letter-words-jim.html [05:15] TR Bot Old Vintage Computing Research: prior-art-dept.: 5 letter words (Jim Butterfield's Jotto) [05:16] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [05:17] TR News "While the author suggests theres more to math than rigour and proofs, I tangentially suggest theres more to design than data and rationality." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/more-to-design-than-data-and-rationality/ [05:17] TR Bot Theres More to Design Than Data and Rationality - Jim Nielsens Blog [05:19] TR News Ericsson is patent trolling... AND terrorism https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60406119 [05:19] Alternative link Cloudflare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60406119 [05:19] TR Bot says it may have paid bribes to Islamic State terrorists - BBC News [05:19] TR News "Shareholders in Swedish telecom giant Ericsson on Tuesday sanctioned the company's board and chief executive over its handling of a corruption scandal" https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220329-shareholders-sanction-ericsson-board-over-iraq-corruption [05:19] TR Bot Shareholders sanction Ericsson board over Iraq corruption [05:20] TR News Islamic State of Ericsson https://www.reuters.com/business/ericsson-ceo-faces-investor-ire-over-handling-iraq-probe-2022-03-29/ [05:20] TR Bot CEO faces investor ire over handling of Iraq probe | Reuters [05:21] TR News "Scientists said that these cryovolcanoes -- numbering perhaps 10 or more -- stand anywhere from 1 kilometer (six-tenths of a mile) to 7 kilometers (4-1/2 miles) tall" https://www.voanews.com/a/towering-ice-volcanoes-identified-on-surprisingly-vibrant-pluto-/6508968.html [05:21] TR Bot Towering Ice Volcanoes Identified on Surprisingly Vibrant Pluto [05:22] TR News "Worse than McCarthyism, which only targeted individual dissenters, todays repressive measures invade the curriculum and the classroom" https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/academic-freedom-faculty-racism/ [05:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/academic-freedom-faculty-racism/ [05:22] TR Bot Across the Country, Faculty Fight to Defend Academic Freedom | The Nation [05:26] TR News Media focus on the group which cracked Microsoft, not Microsoft having holes and lapses https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/lapsus$-breaches-software-consultancy-firm-globant,-steals-source-code.html [05:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/lapsus$-breaches-software-consultancy-firm-globant,-steals-source-code.html [05:26] TR Bot - Lapsus$ breaches software consultancy firm Globant, steals source code [05:27] TR News Proprietary software https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/cyberattack-ukraine-war-affected-thousands-europe-83765998 [05:27] TR Bot Satellite modems nexus of worst cyberattack of Ukraine war - ABC News [05:27] TR News Proprietary software https://redmondmag.com/articles/2022/03/30/globant-hacked-by-lapsus-gang.aspx [05:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: redmondmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://redmondmag.com/articles/2022/03/30/globant-hacked-by-lapsus-gang.aspx [05:27] TR Bot Apparently Hacked by Lapsus Gang -- Redmondmag.com [05:27] TR News Windows TCO https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/MSOfficeFileScanningNeed [05:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/MSOfficeFileScanningNeed [05:27] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/spam/MSOfficeFileScanningNeed [05:28] TR News Windows TCO https://gru.gq/2022/03/29/kgb-fail-belarus-rail-the-tale/ [05:28] TR Bot KGB Fail Belarus Rail, the tale. [05:28] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D546.jpg [05:29] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D188.jpg [05:30] TR News "The clip of Trump asking Putin for help was published by a news website founded by John Solomon, a pro-Trump journalist whose previous coverage about the Bidens' ties to Ukraine has been discredited." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/trump-putin-hunter-biden/index.html [05:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/politics/trump-putin-hunter-biden/index.html [05:30] TR Bot Trump brazenly asks Putin to release dirt about Biden's family - CNNPolitics [05:31] TR News "Two senior British judges resigned from Hong Kong's highest court on Wednesday as part of a broader British rebuke of the territory's claim" https://www.voanews.com/a/british-judges-quit-hong-kong-court-over-beijing-imposed-national-security-law/6508530.html [05:31] TR Bot British Judges Quit Hong Kong Court Over Beijing-Imposed National Security Law [05:32] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ [05:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/29/non_c_operating_systems/ [05:32] TR Bot The weird world of non-C operating systems The Register [05:34] TR News Facebooks status as nationalistic operation reaffirmed? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/tiktok-facebook-meta-targeted-victory-1235122641/ [05:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/tiktok-facebook-meta-targeted-victory-1235122641/ [05:34] TR Bot TikTok Concerned by Facebook-Paid Campaign for Negative Coverage The Hollywood Reporter [05:35] TR News "The executive order was an excellent first step in the right direction. It required the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)" https://thehill.com/opinion/cybersecurity/600352-regulatory-enforcement-is-our-best-weapon-against-cyberwar [05:35] TR Bot Regulatory enforcement is our best weapon against cyberwar | The Hill [05:35] TR News Facebook is a company that ought not even exist https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/30/23003168/facebook-tiktok-targeted-victory-news-column-campaign-gop [05:35] TR Bot Facebook funded anti-TikTok campaign through GOP firm - The Verge [05:36] TR News "'Getting forked' is as bad as it sounds. Developers, users, and all other sorts of resources are split." https://matt-rickard.com/threat-of-the-fork/ [05:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/threat-of-the-fork/ [05:36] TR Bot Threat of the Hard Fork [05:36] TR News "In a statement to the Washington Post, Mr Trump said that he had never heard of the term "burner phone" and had no idea what it was" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60934574 [05:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60934574 [05:36] TR Bot 'burner phones' are the talk of Washington - BBC News [05:37] TR News Social control media = Dis/Misinformation: "Some of Chinas state-affiliated reporters have posited themselves as trendy Instagram influencers or bloggers" https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2022/0330/How-China-uses-influencers-to-build-a-propaganda-network [05:37] TR Bot China uses social media influencers to build a propaganda network - CSMonitor.com [05:41] TR News "In Marvel news, even with the TV-MA Netflix Marvel shows on Disney Plus, it appears there's censorship happening on The Falcon and The Winter Soldier" https://www.ign.com/videos/disney-is-censoring-some-violence-in-falcon-winter-soldier-series-ign-the-fix-entertainment [05:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: ign.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ign.com/videos/disney-is-censoring-some-violence-in-falcon-winter-soldier-series-ign-the-fix-entertainment [05:41] TR Bot Is Censoring Some Violence in Falcon & Winter Soldier Series - IGN The Fix: Entertainment - IGN [05:42] TR News "Burundi's media authority announced Wednesday that it would lift a nationwide ban on the BillG [sic] Bullshit Corporation (BBC)" https://www.voanews.com/a/burundi-lifts-ban-on-bbc-after-almost-3-years/6508449.html [05:42] TR Bot Burundi Lifts Ban on BBC After Almost 3 Years [05:42] AdmFubar https://www.icij.org/investigations/pandora-papers/new-zealand-moves-to-crack-down-on-corporate-secrecy-after-pandora-papers/ [05:42] TR Bot New Zealand moves to crack down on corporate secrecy after Pandora Papers - ICIJ [05:42] schestowitz-TR they needed to wait this long? [05:42] schestowitz-TR where is accountability? [05:42] AdmFubar https://www.icij.org/investigations/ericsson-list/key-analysts-urge-ericsson-investors-to-hold-ceo-accountable-for-oversight-failures/ [05:42] TR Bot Key analysts urge Ericsson investors to hold CEO accountable for oversight failures - ICIJ [05:43] TR News "Public school districts in multiple U.S. states are grappling with and, in some cases, acquiescing to demands by small but vocal groups of parents to rid school libraries of certain books" https://www.voanews.com/a/us-public-school-libraries-pressured-to-remove-certain-books/6508506.html [05:43] TR Bot US Public School Libraries Pressured to Remove Certain Books [05:44] TR News "At this time we are looking into the matter." What about Jesus mug? That does offend anyone? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-60915405 [05:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: bbc.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-60915405 [05:44] TR Bot grammar teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad mug - BBC News [05:47] AdmFubar https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ssd-edition-2021-drive-stats-review/ [05:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: backblaze.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ssd-edition-2021-drive-stats-review/ [05:47] TR Bot The SSD Edition: 2021 Drive Stats Review [05:48] TR News Censorship https://www.davidrevoy.com/article904/how-proprietary-social-medias-are-shaping-the-future-of-peppercarrot [05:48] TR Bot How proprietary social-medias are shaping the future of Pepper&Carrot - David Revoy [05:50] TR News "Apple and Facebook parent company Meta turned over user data last year to [frauds] pretending to be law enforcement officials" https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/600410-apple-meta-turned-over-user-data-to-hackers-using-forged-requests-report [05:50] TR Bot Apple, Meta turned over user data to hackers using forged requests: report | The Hill [05:51] TR News "Police won't release body cam footage of disputed incident for 45 days." https://reason.com/2022/03/30/he-disarmed-a-gun-wielding-menace-in-a-san-jose-taqueria-then-the-cops-shot-him/ [05:51] TR Bot He Disarmed a Gun-Wielding Menace in a San Jose Taqueria. Then the Cops Shot Him. [05:52] TR News "Previously, Apple prohibited app developers from including any links to account sign-up pages." https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/apple-app-store-netflix-spotify-web-accounts-1235219399/ [05:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/apple-app-store-netflix-spotify-web-accounts-1235219399/ [05:52] TR Bot Will 'Reader Apps' Like Netflix, Spotify Include Signup Links - Variety [05:53] TR News "This emphasis on competition refers back to the simple fact that as content (rather than service) providers, legacy publishers currently enjoy monopolies" http://bjoern.brembs.net/2022/03/why-publication-services-must-not-be-negotiated/ [05:53] TR Bot bjoern.brembs.blog Why publication services must not be negotiated [05:53] AdmFubar https://www.databreaches.net/hackers-gaining-power-of-subpoena-via-fake-emergency-data-requests/ [05:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: databreaches.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.databreaches.net/hackers-gaining-power-of-subpoena-via-fake-emergency-data-requests/ [05:53] TR Bot Hackers Gaining Power of Subpoena Via Fake Emergency Data Requests [05:55] TR News "From 2026, electronic legal transactions should be possible completely without paper, but this could cause problems for defendants in custody." https://digit.site36.net/2022/03/30/digital-justice-german-state-of-baden-wuerttemberg-launches-electronic-criminal-file/ [05:55] TR Bot Digital justice: German state of Baden-Wrttemberg launches electronic criminal file Matthias Monroy [05:56] schestowitz-TR activelow: ^^ [05:58] TR News EFF outsourced to GulagTube while bagging money from Gulag https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/digital-rights-updates-effector-342 [05:58] TR Bot Digital Rights Updates with EFFector 34.2 | Electronic Frontier Foundation [05:58] TR News Finnish McCarthyism? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/nokia-busted-helping-russias-fsb-spy-on-citizens-activists-journalists/ [05:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/nokia-busted-helping-russias-fsb-spy-on-citizens-activists-journalists/ [05:58] TR Bot Busted Helping Russias FSB Spy On Citizens, Activists, Journalists | Techdirt [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.28 average k/sec., average swarm size 254.35 ● Mar 31 [06:01] activelow schestowitz-TR: reminds me of a project, which i had not received my salary for yet [06:02] activelow i see government bureaucratic institutions created a criminal file for themselves first [06:02] activelow got a long hitlist [06:02] TR News Is this just Intel marketing/commercial/spam? GulagTube is getting plagued with it... https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ouGH3RfjvS8 [06:02] TR Bot Intel Arc Dedicated GPUs and Linux: Everything You Need To Know! - Invidious [06:02] activelow severe fraud; financial damage at the scale of millions of cash [06:03] activelow fraud by, government institutions, not some dubious scammer gang, although it's difficult to distinguish those [06:03] TR News "Considering the pace Valve has been pushing out Steam Deck Verified games anyone looking at this situation can see that something is going to go wrong and Valve is looking for your feedback to identify incorrectly verified games" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MoDFYsLu43I [06:03] TR Bot Linux Gaming Is More Complex Than Valve Thought - Invidious [06:04] TR News "About a month ago, I suddenly had the urge to learn how to create my own GTK application. 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(Haskell & Python) - Invidious [06:04] TR News xkcd: Rejected Question Categories https://xkcd.com/2600/ Source: xkcd [06:04] TR Bot Rejected Question Categories [06:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2600/ [06:05] schestowitz Systemd discusses its kernel-version needs https://lwn.net/Articles/889610/ [06:05] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/889610/ ) [06:05] schestowitz paywall [06:07] activelow in parallel, german public morning tv discusses tampered videos and fakes spread... excluding their own propaganda lies of cause, as usual [06:08] activelow which is, to combat fake news, german public tv had to be shut down, as a most effective action, and most of the smearings sold as newspaper, dictated by atlantic bridge war criminal gang [06:08] activelow and their 5eyes [06:10] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mazda-infotainment-crash-shows-how-fragile-car-security-really-is/ [06:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mazda-infotainment-crash-shows-how-fragile-car-security-really-is/ [06:10] TR Bot Mazda Infotainment Crash Shows How Fragile Car Security Really Is [06:11] activelow and it is remarkable, new german government including "Alliance90/greens" "eco" "peace" "activists" boast about 500 strela-2 rocket launchers delivered to Ukraine [06:11] AdmFubar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mars-stealer-malware-pushed-via-openoffice-ads-on-google/ [06:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mars-stealer-malware-pushed-via-openoffice-ads-on-google/ [06:11] TR Bot Mars Stealer malware pushed via OpenOffice ads on Google [06:14] TR News Aaron Wolf on Funding Freedom-Respecting Software | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/aaron-wolf-on-funding/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/aaron-wolf-on-funding/ [06:14] TR Bot Aaron Wolf on Funding Freedom-Respecting Software | Techrights [06:15] TR News Videos: GTK, Gaming, KDE neon, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163169 [06:15] TR Bot Videos: GTK, Gaming, KDE neon, and More | Tux Machines [06:17] TR News Link spam or SEO disguised as information. So much of the WWW is now just webspam. https://www.noobslab.com/2022/03/3-simple-ways-to-strengthen-your.html [06:17] TR Bot Simple ways to strengthen your WordPress sites security - NoobsLab | Eye on Digital World [06:20] activelow got a list of names, to create electronic criminal files for, in preparation for life-time imprisonment for their war crimes [06:22] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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Stats Show It Was A Waste Of Money. | Techdirt [06:33] TR News "Back in the day, just about everything that used a battery had a hatch or a hutch that you could open to pull it out and replace it if need be." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/30/replaceable-batteries-are-coming-back-to-phones-if-the-eu-gets-its-way/ [06:33] TR Bot Batteries Are Coming Back To Phones If The EU Gets Its Way | Hackaday [06:33] TR News Linux powered https://hackaday.com/2022/03/30/whats-that-accessusb-menu-in-my-lg-smarttv/ [06:33] TR Bot That AccessUSB Menu In My LG SmartTV? | Hackaday [06:38] TR News Charles Koch, who gave money to TechDirt... https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/30/the-money-trail-to-the-ginni-thomas-emails-to-overturn-bidens-election-leads-to-charles-koch/ [06:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/30/the-money-trail-to-the-ginni-thomas-emails-to-overturn-bidens-election-leads-to-charles-koch/ [06:38] TR Bot Money Trail to the Ginni Thomas Emails to Overturn Bidens Election Leads to Charles Koch - CounterPunch.org [06:40] TR News SCOTUS links to insurrection https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/30/ginni-thomass-texts-coup-search-legal-theory-and-judicial-malfeasance https://truthout.org/articles/ocasio-cortez-calls-for-clarence-thomas-to-resign-over-wifes-ties-to-january-6/ [06:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/03/30/ginni-thomass-texts-coup-search-legal-theory-and-judicial-malfeasance [06:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/ocasio-cortez-calls-for-clarence-thomas-to-resign-over-wifes-ties-to-january-6/ [06:40] TR Bot Opinion | Ginni Thomas's Texts: A 'Coup in Search of a Legal Theory' and Judicial Malfeasance | Steven Harper [06:40] TR Bot Ocasio-Cortez Calls for Clarence Thomas to Resign Over Wifes Ties to January 6 [06:41] TR News Boycott GulagTube https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/bungie-sues-does-over-destiny-dmca-takedowns-slams-youtubes-dmca-process/ [06:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/bungie-sues-does-over-destiny-dmca-takedowns-slams-youtubes-dmca-process/ [06:41] TR Bot Sues Does Over Destiny DMCA Takedowns, Slams YouTubes DMCA Process | Techdirt [06:42] TR News It's just a cartel https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/publishers-seem-to-believe-their-outsized-sense-of-entitlement-should-trump-democracy/ [06:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/publishers-seem-to-believe-their-outsized-sense-of-entitlement-should-trump-democracy/ [06:42] TR Bot Seem To Believe Their Outsized Sense Of Entitlement Should Trump Democracy | Techdirt [06:43] TR News "When his new legal streaming service launched in 2021, producer and cinema investor Moshe Edery asked consumers to "leave the pirates and come to the Zionists." 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It committed suicide by ClownFlare after about 17 years. [07:07] TR News GParted 1.4 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163152#comment-33239 [07:07] TR Bot GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release | Tux Machines [07:08] kingoffrance ' Why Moderating Content " the only question is who gets to be a moderator [07:09] kingoffrance somehow media always reduces everything to the most idiotic binary 'simp' black/white nonsense [07:09] kingoffrance moderation: god or the devil [07:09] kingoffrance you have to pick one lol [07:09] TR News In his day job as an independent music teacher, he pushes his students to use free/libre tools and release their music under free licenses." http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/aaron-wolf-on-funding/ [07:09] TR Bot Aaron Wolf on Funding Freedom-Respecting Software | Techrights [07:10] kingoffrance linus said masturbating monkeys, he was right [07:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:11] TR News "Today we are looking at Fedora 36 Beta. It comes with Gnome 42, Linux kernel 5.17, and uses about 1.4 GB of ram when idling." https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/03/fedora-36-beta.html https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ij5E3IXvEJI [07:11] TR Bot Fedora 36 Beta [07:11] TR Bot Fedora 36 Beta Run Through - Invidious [07:12] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163173 [07:12] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [07:12] schestowitz-TR kingoffrance: he talked about security boasting [07:13] schestowitz-TR and self-gratification over it [07:15] TR News No April Fools, snow in Manchester [07:17] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@f2uucmx8wdxxw.irc) has joined #techrights [07:17] TR News Microsoft Windows unable to delete its own files. https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/windows-delete-file-special-char.html [07:17] TR Bot How to delete files with weird characters in Windows [07:18] kingoffrance eh, after reading the article is a little more nuanced, but still is left at 'who gets to define what a "community" is' [07:18] kingoffrance i.e. is the community the website operators or the users [07:18] kingoffrance some "community' members more equal than others [07:20] TR News #HowTo Use Password Store to Manage Your Passwords in Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163174 [07:20] TR Bot How to Use Password Store to Manage Your Passwords in Linux | Tux Machines [07:22] *zedomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:22] TR News The term "Linux" is been bent or diluted for greenwashing PR https://time.com/6162201/open-source-green-grid/ [07:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: time.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://time.com/6162201/open-source-green-grid/ [07:22] TR Bot Collective Action to Green the Grid | Time [07:22] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163175 [07:22] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [07:23] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@a9k4we53x83yu.irc) has joined #techrights [07:27] TR News [GIT PULL] ext4 updates for 5.18-rc1 - Theodore Tso https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YjuYwa2jhanwyryf@mit.edu/ Source: mit | linux | kernel [07:27] TR Bot [GIT PULL] ext4 updates for 5.18-rc1 - Theodore Ts'o [07:30] TR News parted-3.4.64 released [alpha] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163152#comment-33241 [07:30] TR Bot GParted Live 1.4.0-1 Stable Release | Tux Machines [07:31] kingoffrance the real danger is mixing up legal and lawful and corporations cant decide if they are "citizens" (who are supposed to uphold 'principles' ) [07:32] *kingoffrance slap im a citizen! slap im a private business slap i have political slogans everywhere and tell people to vote slap i dont do politics [07:32] kingoffrance schizo corporations, as always [07:33] *kingoffrance slap i only exist with limited liability from gov slap i owe you nothing, your privileges are at my behest slap men create gov slap legal is all there is [07:33] kingoffrance its like a split personality lol [07:34] kingoffrance the omnipresent forked tongue lol [07:35] kingoffrance my hand hurts , too much detective work [07:38] TR News Profiting From Inefficiency With DRM | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/drm-talk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/drm-talk/ [07:38] TR Bot Profiting From Inefficiency With DRM | Techrights [07:41] TR News The Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe launches April 27 | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/the-stanley-parable-ultra-deluxe-launches-april-27/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [07:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/the-stanley-parable-ultra-deluxe-launches-april-27/ [07:41] TR Bot Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe launches April 27 | GamingOnLinux [07:43] TR News Want to Work in IT? 6 Reasons to Check out Linux https://news.clearancejobs.com/2022/03/30/want-to-work-in-it-6-reasons-to-check-out-linux/ Source: ClearanceJobs [07:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: clearancejobs.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://news.clearancejobs.com/2022/03/30/want-to-work-in-it-6-reasons-to-check-out-linux/ [07:43] TR Bot Want to Work in IT? 6 Reasons to Check out Linux - ClearanceJobs [07:45] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:49] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@3fwq6apsn2jv4.irc) has joined #techrights [07:56] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 49.73 k/sec., IPFS upstream 83.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 393.40 [07:59] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) ● Mar 31 [08:00] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@gbgr2jcp6yrt2.irc) has joined #techrights [08:00] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@thn62aj5tmfdn.irc) has joined #techrights [08:05] *zedomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:17] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@bsgdwgkyty4d4.irc) has joined #techrights [08:18] kingoffrance part of the reason i have little sympathy for the "moderation is not censorship" is not that there is not miles of useless "debate" ...but that if there is only legal entities, they are all "gov actors" (indirectly). gov magically waves a wand and says "this agent of mine is not gov" [08:18] kingoffrance it is "gov" being schizophrenic ultimately [08:19] kingoffrance corporations are just an extension of "gov" cant make up its mind [08:19] kingoffrance there is no answer in usa...it wasnt designd for corporations, it was designed for farmers [08:20] kingoffrance "if we ever allow cities to spring up here like they have in europe, we will become as corrupt as they are' (paraphrase, jefferson) [08:20] kingoffrance well, here we are lol [08:24] kingoffrance its conflicting definitions of 'community' [08:24] kingoffrance that, is entirely the fault of corporations [08:25] kingoffrance and "gov" saying they are "citizens" [08:26] kingoffrance that word was always two-sided because one version meant 'city' [08:29] kingoffrance its like the "state" thing, its eternal confusion of tongues at this point :/ [08:34] kingoffrance a corporation is an artificial person, even a "citizen" ...only existing with gov charter/granted privileges, but not a people (by of for the people gov). they slyly take advantage of the parts that benefit, and point at 'gov" as some separate entity [08:35] kingoffrance (which it is not, it is the only thing giving them any "existence") [08:35] kingoffrance they are a big part of 'state' confusion of tongues when they do that. anyways lol :) [08:36] kingoffrance "by of for the people" was never designed for such schizo things [08:39] activelow question is, the _constitutional_ state at stake [08:40] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:40] activelow whatever entity, and even democratical or not, if any entity complies with law and order [08:41] activelow insofar, EU is deligitimized, because of systematic violation of all relevant EU conracts, for example [08:42] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:42] activelow leave alone, the _historical_ deligitimacy of EU, which is based upon forced displacement and murder of dozens of millions, of, germans [08:42] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@dwn3ktwavi5f8.irc) has joined #techrights [08:43] activelow what an irony, the church, as one such business entity, german TV broadcasted some clitter and kitsch, about their "opposition", to bless absolute rulers [08:44] activelow except for one, the church supposedly didn't bless as any other before [08:45] kingoffrance well, i dont buy the sov citizen theory that things magically switched to incorporated. nevertheless, the terms are messed up. there are incorporated counties now. that was already a thing. it was called....a city [08:45] kingoffrance "sov citizen" is even funnier, it was a thing in europe 'republics". but it didnt mean anything except you could withdraw consent. [08:46] kingoffrance its like saying "im warning you, i will turn this car around" [08:47] activelow EU recessed below the historical state of Napoleon Bonarparte [08:47] activelow Banaparte [08:47] activelow Bonaparte [08:47] *bnchs (~bnchs@b9y3gwedhcw4u.irc) has joined #techrights [08:47] activelow anyway; for example, the trivial pre-condition, to register all inhabitants, birth and death certificates, and immigrants [08:47] activelow as, a pre-condition, for any social order [08:48] activelow sure, corporations may not bother, if an inhabitant has any legal status, at least formally [08:49] activelow yet, EU "deconstructed" even the mere formality of law and order [08:49] activelow then they say, it is "freedom", and "democracy", rarely do they talk, about law and order, and the consitutional state [08:50] activelow a medieval age monarchy couldn't be much worse than EU ruling, if a monarch followed a constitution and law and order [08:55] kingoffrance i dont know, i just know the language is corrupted seemingly beyond repair [08:55] kingoffrance its like operator overloading ran amok [08:56] kingoffrance or function overloading, same name different number of parameters, different behavior [08:57] activelow in a _constitutional_ state, a basic principle, to follow law and order, is the clear identificiation of legal subjects [08:57] kingoffrance yes. it is very much right to face your accuser too [08:57] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:58] kingoffrance *very much part of [08:58] activelow this basic principle, it's sabotaged, intentionally, it's irelevant which name is given to this [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 46.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 68.53 average k/sec., average swarm size 262.20 [08:59] activelow EU cannot exist anymore, in compliance with any _constution_, with law and order in place [08:59] activelow law and order, a _consitutional_ state isn't possible anymore, in EU ● Mar 31 [09:00] activelow because the entire political and economic apparatus, flourished, on the basis to degenarte law and order, and any morals implied [09:01] activelow besides, the _historical_ deligitimacy of EU wasn't finalized 1945, the final stroke, to hammer this unjustice into stone was year 1990 [09:01] activelow and the so-called "re-unification", which never happened [09:03] kingoffrance "the trivial pre-condition, to register all inhabitants, birth and death certificates, and immigrants" i agree with that [09:03] kingoffrance but thats why it will always be chicken and egg for usa....men create gov. who gave them birth certificates? noone [09:04] kingoffrance so i am not arguing against that, just the "legal" follows [09:04] kingoffrance it is more about preserving hierarchy than trying to return to "natural rights" or whatever [09:04] kingoffrance if the hierarchy is screwed, everything becomes twisted [09:05] kingoffrance there's a maxim, something like if the order of things is lost, everythinig is thrown into confusion [09:05] kingoffrance *was. noone does those anymore :) [09:06] kingoffrance its more like the not wanting to require c++ for a c compiler :) [09:08] kingoffrance you can cross that line, but it is difficult to go back once crossed [09:27] kingoffrance or like matey said. if the cause and effect is lost, there is no longer any meaning [09:28] kingoffrance people do eventually swing back around to ye olde maxims, they jsut dont realize it :) [09:39] *Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) [09:54] *zedomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:55] *chicksahoy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:58] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@g3izecpprtp7g.irc) has joined #techrights ● Mar 31 [10:07] TR News IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/irc-log-300322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/irc-log-300322/ [10:07] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 | Techrights [10:16] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [10:17] TR News A Visit to Uni gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202203/20220330-a-visit-to-uni.gmi familiar feeling. [10:18] TR News Ubuntu Users Get Small Linux Kernel Security Update with Only Two Flaws Patched Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163176 [10:18] TR Bot Ubuntu Users Get Small Linux Kernel Security Update with Only Two Flaws Patched | Tux Machines [10:21] *techrights-news has quit (Received malformed line) [10:25] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:25] TR News "I don't use reddit much but I subscribe to the san francisco subreddit, and it is insane to me how awful the political opinions there. Really terrible, racist stuff, from people who probably consider themselves to be "liberal"" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [10:25] TR News "I don't use reddit much but I subscribe to the san francisco subreddit, and it is insane to me how awful the political opinions there. Really terrible, racist stuff, from people who probably consider themselves to be "liberal"" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [10:25] *techrights-news has quit (Received malformed line) [10:26] schestowitz "written on Pinephone keyboard [10:26] schestowitz on loft bed in garage" gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/agk/phlog/2022-03-02-lent.txt [10:26] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [10:27] TR News "I tried tin, trn, slrn for Usenet without success (i can't browse older posts). But maybe I don't have enough time for configuration. If mutt is better solution, you could write some tutorial. There are no many about it on the web." gemini://szczezuja.space/tinylog.gmi [10:34] TR News The correlation between the battle against corruption and the importance of Free software (privacy, source protection) merits special attention. Maybe next year I'll submit a talk proposal for LibrePlanet. [10:44] TR News The 7 Best Browsers for Old and Low-End Computers https://www.makeuseof.com/best-browsers-old-low-end-computers/ Source: makeuseof [10:44] TR Bot The 7 Best Browsers for Old and Low-End Computers [10:44] TR News Another GNU Poke Release (2.3) and Video Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163177 [10:44] TR Bot Another GNU Poke Release (2.3) and Video | Tux Machines [10:46] TR News BSDNow: "Controlling Resource Limits with rctl in FreeBSD, Its always DNS, Google Summer of Code in BSD Projects, Rsync Technical Notes - Q4 2021, Userland CPU frequency scheduling for OpenBSD, and more." https://www.bsdnow.tv/448 [10:46] TR Bot BSD Now 448: Controlling Resource Limits [10:53] TR News Steam Deck gets a big Client update, plus Deck OS and BIOS BETA update | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-gets-a-big-client-update-plus-deck-os-and-bios-beta-update/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [10:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-deck-gets-a-big-client-update-plus-deck-os-and-bios-beta-update/ [10:53] TR Bot Deck gets a big Client update, plus Deck OS and BIOS BETA update | GamingOnLinux [10:54] TR News Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, FLOSS Weekly, and The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163178 [10:54] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, FLOSS Weekly, and The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) | Tux Machines [10:55] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163179 [10:55] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:56] *matey (~matey@5qfh8ygvjx3sy.irc) has joined #techrights [10:57] SomeH4x0r hi [10:58] matey hi [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 46.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 47.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 216.96 ● Mar 31 [11:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@74bmiss74te8u.irc) has joined #techrights [11:02] matey yesterday i found out what was meant by "it does devanagari right" [11:02] matey i made a "virtual keyboard" with js and compared it to tk [11:03] matey the virtual keyboard combines glyphs, tk doesnt [11:03] DaemonFC "I don't use reddit much but I subscribe to the san francisco subreddit, and it is insane to me how awful the political opinions there. Really terrible, racist stuff, from people who probably consider themselves to be "liberal"" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi [11:03] matey so for some writing systems there appears to be no option (perhaps) unless you want to go with a stallman backstabber using github too [11:03] matey that really really sucks. it also shows the need for a fork imo. [11:04] matey github: "haha, you cant write your own alphabet without ME" [11:04] DaemonFC Yes, like I said. The "liberals" are the worst. They're patently offensive. They're the ones that won't even say "black people" but are the ones keeping them down with welfare programs instead of creating employment opportunities, lower taxes, and more housing (which brings down prices). [11:04] matey i wish it were fud, i know 0 alternatives [11:04] DaemonFC All of those things are the polar opposite of what liberals want. It disgusts them that there are any semi-decent people left in this country. [11:05] matey but are the ones keeping them down with welfare programs instead of creating employment opportunities <- this is partly true [11:05] matey its more true to say that both sides are keeping them down without employment opportunities [11:05] matey but they have a different way of hiding the truth [11:06] DaemonFC Generational poverty is pretty much defined by how easy it is to get on welfare. And the blue states make it easy to get welfare and hard to get work. [11:06] matey the "liberals" hide the truth with programs too meagre to do anything but keep people in a rut-- thats your position, and i happen to think its mostly true [11:06] DaemonFC Illinois has tens of thousands of welfare agency employees and the worst jobs situation in America. [11:06] matey Generational poverty is pretty much defined by how easy it is to get on welfare. <- by whom [11:06] DaemonFC It's a poverty trap. [11:06] matey the "right" hides the truth by pretending that if not for all this welfare, everyone would have work-- which imo is sometimes a lot more bullshit than the bullshit from the "liberals" [11:07] matey but its a nice theory. [11:07] DaemonFC Entitlement programs are there to soothe public anger over the Democrats fucking up their job opportunities. [11:07] matey It's a poverty trap. <- in its present implementation, absolutely [11:07] DaemonFC So they can get through the next election. [11:07] matey Entitlement programs <- propaganda term imo [11:07] matey are there to soothe public anger over the Democrats fucking up their job opportunities <- i agree partially [11:07] TR News Games: Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe, Microsoft Issues, and Steam Deck Client Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163180 [11:08] TR Bot Games: Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe, Microsoft Issues, and Steam Deck Client Update | Tux Machines [11:08] DaemonFC Entitlement programs are literally what they are. You meet the criteria, you are legally entitled to the program. [11:08] matey this is what welfare has been perfverted into [11:08] matey and its the only sort of thing that will exist under this completely broken political system too [11:09] matey the right isnt going to get their hard working rightopia [11:09] matey and the left-- is full of shit, like you said [11:09] DaemonFC Illinois is down 200,000 jobs vs. March 2020. If the Democrats hadn't killed us completely and we had just followed the national average, we'd be down 100,000. [11:09] matey "left" [11:09] matey If the Democrats hadn't killed us completely <- i dont doubt the democrats have fucked chicago to death [11:09] DaemonFC This proves that the Democrat policies themselves are responsible for half the total losses during COVID. [11:09] matey i doubt the right could (or even would) fix it [11:10] matey if the gutted a lot of democrat bullshit i can tell you what would happen [11:10] DaemonFC Now they're demanding that we vote for Amendment 1 this year, which would elevate public employees above the law. [11:10] DaemonFC And only them! [11:10] matey for a year or two, things would look destined to improve [11:10] DaemonFC With the union contracts. [11:10] matey then it would be shittier than ever. not because it was working before, but because a different kind of broken gives people false hope [11:10] DaemonFC I'm going to vote no, for certain. [11:11] DaemonFC They already do pretty much fuck all. There was even one of them who spent years at "work" doing nothing but her Amazon shopping. [11:11] TR News It says "secure software supply chain breaches like Solar Winds [3], Kaseya[4]," but that's Windows and proprietary software https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/secure-software-supply-chains-good-practices-at-scale/ [11:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/secure-software-supply-chains-good-practices-at-scale/ [11:11] TR Bot Secure software supply chains: good practices, at scale - Linux Foundation [11:11] DaemonFC And nobody caught her, and then 5 years in, they finally asked her to leave. [11:11] matey walmart? [11:11] DaemonFC Her coworkers complained she did no work, just Amazon shopping and printing out her receipts using the state's printers. [11:11] DaemonFC No, an Illinois state worker. [11:11] matey wow [11:11] DaemonFC Illinois Policy covered this. [11:12] matey yeah there was similer fuckery under stallman [11:12] matey dammit [11:12] matey stalin [11:12] matey fucking muscle memory. if i said immune system it would have a d on it [11:12] matey immune systemd [11:12] matey anyway [11:12] matey under stalin, the bureaucracy was above the law [11:13] matey they diverted 2/3 of everything to themselves [11:13] TR News FSF Award ceremony & Saturday Closing notes https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/fsf-award-ceremony-saturday-closing-notes/ [11:13] matey paid themselves to get fat and (relatively) wealthy [11:13] TR Bot FSF Award ceremony & Saturday Closing notes GNU MediaGoblin [11:13] matey it was a system based on corruption (a bit like chicago) [11:13] matey and arguably (if superfically) left wing! [11:13] matey like the democrats [11:14] matey stalin wasnt comfortable having all the workers armed [11:14] DaemonFC Illinois is like this, but Chicago particularly. [11:14] DaemonFC The Democrats hide your tax money in slush funds. [11:14] matey if they had all been armed the first famine would have been the last for the bureaucracy [11:15] DaemonFC Usually, it gets embezzled and when that's not the case, for vote buying. [11:15] matey of course the idea was to have democracy, if you can believe it [11:16] matey but if the democracy fails, and the bureaucracy is corrupt, and making themselves fat on starving everyone else [11:16] matey thats why you arm all the workers [11:16] matey the funny thing about everyone being armed is [11:16] matey you dont even need to shoot a lot of the time [11:17] matey if thousands of people with a right to bear arms show up to the people creating a nationwide famine for fucks sake [11:17] DaemonFC If it looks questionable as to whether your alderman will be re-elected then what happens is that he goes on a spending spree in the areas of his ward where they hate him the most. [11:17] matey they might not even have to point at them. the message is pretty clear-- gtfo, or stay and see what happens [11:17] DaemonFC All of a sudden, there's city workers there patching all of the potholes in the neighborhood precincts that he didn't do well in last election. [11:18] DaemonFC Elections are as much about keeping people who don't like you away from the polls as they are about making sure "the right people" vote. [11:18] matey sure [11:18] TR News FSF Staff at LibrePlanet Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163181 [11:18] TR Bot FSF Staff at LibrePlanet | Tux Machines [11:18] DaemonFC People who hit the same pothole every morning right before work vote, for the other guy. [11:18] matey but to be fair [11:18] matey youre talking about elections in a situation where a. people are not educated about democracy and b. its a farce to say people demand it [11:19] matey people demand elections-- if they gave a shit about "democracy" the elections would be NOTHING LIKE THIS [11:19] matey this is almost-fake democracy. almost fake as in theres a left-wing constitutional law professor (at harvard) explaining in detail why BASICALLY EVERY ELECTION is a farce. [11:19] TR News Microsoft Mono causing problems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163180#comment-33242 [11:19] TR Bot Games: Stanley Parable: Ultra Deluxe, Microsoft Issues, and Steam Deck Client Update | Tux Machines [11:19] matey almost fake not like the trump people said [11:20] matey if anything, democracy did a rare thing (its job) in getting him out... [11:20] matey but im sure even amazon shopper did her job on the rarest of occasions [11:20] matey if it just kept her in the position longer. [11:20] DaemonFC Well, I'm not sure, but I think Kazakhstan probably has more democratic elections than Illinois does. [11:20] matey anything is possible eh [11:20] DaemonFC And the government there is definitely much more corrupt and repressive. [11:21] TR News "In Firefox 98, were shipping a new version of the existing Performance panel. This panel is now based on the Firefox profiler tool that can be used to capture a performance profile for a web page, inspect visualized performance data and analyze it to identify slow areas." https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/03/performance-tool-in-firefox-devtools-reloaded/ [11:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hacks.mozilla.org/2022/03/performance-tool-in-firefox-devtools-reloaded/ [11:21] TR Bot Performance Tool in Firefox DevTools Reloaded - Mozilla Hacks - the Web developer blog [11:21] matey yeah [11:21] DaemonFC Just giving people direct control over who is in power is not always the best call. [11:21] matey it depends [11:21] matey in a truly backwards country, democracy does kind of what youd expect it to [11:22] DaemonFC Governor Pritzker is finally getting pushback. The Illinois Senate (Democrat supermajority.) just rejected his parole board nominee yesterday, and threatene another one into resigning. [11:22] matey people have to be literate, they have to be educated (beyond simply knowing how to read, which of course is very important as a starting point) and they have to understand the government theyre participating in [11:22] DaemonFC The legislature was going to go into impeachment mode next. [11:22] matey otherwise its only PART of a democracy-- with or without non-fake elections [11:23] DaemonFC Apparently when you parole ax murderers and people who raped and shot a teenage boy in the Cook County forest preserves in 1972, it's fine. [11:23] DaemonFC But when you get to a cop killer, heads roll. [11:23] TR News Canonical/Ubuntu: "we are announcing a start of The Telco Podcast, which you can find ... favorite platforms like Spotify or Apple Podcasts." WHAT? https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-telco-podcast [11:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-telco-podcast [11:23] TR Bot Telco Podcast | Ubuntu [11:23] matey some people are more equal than others [11:23] DaemonFC For now, we're safe from the parole board. With the empty seats, it can't convene to make any decisions. [11:23] DaemonFC Hopefully there's a logjam and the seats stay empty. [11:24] TR News "LXD and Docker are not competing container technologies, and they tend to serve completely different purposes. In this blog, well briefly discuss the differences and the suitable use cases for both." https://ubuntu.com//blog/lxd-vs-docker [11:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/lxd-vs-docker [11:24] TR Bot vs Docker | Ubuntu [11:24] matey how does that work [11:24] DaemonFC They have to have a quorum to meet andd decide parole cases. [11:24] DaemonFC Since the empty seats count towards the quorum, they can't meet. [11:24] matey the direction things are going in is to put a computer in charge of that [11:24] DaemonFC It's better that it stays that way. [11:24] matey with hey hi [11:25] DaemonFC Just don't let anyone out on parole. [11:25] matey Just don't let anyone out on parole. <- heres the thing [11:25] DaemonFC I mean, what do you think will happen? Nobody hires felons and they were bad enough to imprison in the first place. [11:25] DaemonFC Let them rot. [11:25] matey you were wrongfully arrested, yes? [11:25] matey and you got off, i believe [11:25] DaemonFC It was a misdemeanor. [11:25] matey so parole was never necessary (which is good, because you were wrongfully arrested) [11:25] DaemonFC Jail wasn't a likely outcome much less prison (impossible). [11:25] matey i thought they tried to make it worse with some bs [11:26] TR News "A key principle of open source computing is the ability for users to directly engage with development efforts.." Well, then speak about FREE software, where benefits are vastly more profound https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-keys-to-successful-bug-reporting [11:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-keys-to-successful-bug-reporting [11:26] TR Bot Keys to Successful Bug Reporting | Ubuntu [11:26] matey jack it up to a felony [11:26] DaemonFC Had the prosecutor insisted on calling it Aggravated Assault with a Deadly Weapon in the plea deal or on jail time, I would have rejected it and gone to trial. [11:26] matey but i guess my point is [11:26] matey well [11:26] DaemonFC I basically told him that (through my attorney). [11:27] matey i guess youre confident that if you ended up in there in the first place-- or that you wouldnt unless it was a legitimate charge [11:27] DaemonFC I said if they insisted on either one, then we would have gone to trial and I would at least go down wasting as much of the prosecutor's time as possible. [11:27] matey and possibly end up needing parole? [11:27] matey thats my only point in mentioning it of course [11:28] DaemonFC You don't get parole from probation. [11:28] matey okay fair enough [11:28] matey i doubted that theres a part of it you havent thought through [11:28] matey youre very thorough and all [11:29] DaemonFC What I'm really saying is that if there's any redeeming qualities about these people they parole, then they should be burying their criminal record before they let them out so they can adjust and get a job instead of absconding and reoffending. [11:29] TR News Canonical/Ubuntu: Telcos, Containers, Charmed Operator SDK, and Bug Reporting Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163182 [11:29] DaemonFC And if there's obviously no hope at reform, keep them in prison. [11:29] TR Bot Canonical/Ubuntu: Telcos, Containers, Charmed Operator SDK, and Bug Reporting | Tux Machines [11:29] TR News Adrian is programmer who has worked on visualizing shared vocabularies with SKOS, privacy-conscious blogging Web sites, and various contract work. This talk is about the excellent alternative entertainment you can enjoy without resorting to DRM or piracy. http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/drm-talk/ [11:29] TR Bot Profiting From Inefficiency With DRM | Techrights [11:30] DaemonFC The "obviously no hope at reform" people are the serial killers and rapists that Pritzker's people let out to abscond. [11:30] DaemonFC The reason they got themselves in trouble was he couldn't get the one they rejected past them the first time. [11:30] DaemonFC So he used a recess appointment. [11:30] DaemonFC But her recess term expired and they had to do an up or down vote, so she's gone now. [11:31] DaemonFC At the federal level, recess appointments are basically gone now. [11:31] TR News ICBM Fedora doesn't value software freedom. It continues to outsource development to proprietary software controlled 100% by criminals at Microsoft. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-IoT-Better-Onboarding [11:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-IoT-Better-Onboarding [11:31] TR Bot Looks To Better Onboarding For IoT/Edge Devices - Phoronix [11:31] DaemonFC What happens is that the Senate goes into "pro forma sessions" over the breaks so that they can declare there's no business that day and then leave. [11:32] matey What I'm really saying is that if there's any redeeming qualities about these people they parole <- i mean thats the whole point [11:32] matey so thats good probably [11:32] DaemonFC Even when Trump was in office, Mitch McConnell held those sessions to stop Trump from appointing anyone without the Senate's approval. [11:32] DaemonFC They didn't trust their own president with it. [11:32] matey nor should they [11:33] matey whats he up to now [11:33] DaemonFC McConnell? Minority Leader [11:33] matey i mean trump [11:33] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:33] DaemonFC Camped out in Florida continuing to air his grievances. He's sued Hillary Clinton recently. [11:33] matey lol [11:34] matey maybe she will drone him [11:34] DaemonFC Claiming that he was damaged by the Russia dossier in an election he won. [11:34] matey showing who wears the pants in the former-white-house family [11:34] DaemonFC He's obviously worried that Russia Russia Russia will be the theme if he comes back. [11:34] DaemonFC Then he's so worried that he got on OANN yesterday and asked Putin directly to release damaging information about the Bidens. [11:34] matey He's obviously worried that Russia Russia Russia <- i cant think of any reason why people would choose NOW to make a big deal about russia, no [11:35] schestowitz-TR Moscow Mitch [11:35] DaemonFC It's possible he's not entirely stable. [11:35] schestowitz-TR Moscow Hitched [11:35] matey i dont know if minority leader is an impeachable position? [11:35] matey i swear theres some "equivalent" but its not impeachment, but if i knew i wouldnt be asking [11:36] matey something i think i heard a year or two ago [11:36] DaemonFC https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/31/tech/china-tech-unemployment-crisis-xi-challenge-intl-hnk/index.html [11:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/31/tech/china-tech-unemployment-crisis-xi-challenge-intl-hnk/index.html [11:36] TR Bot Unemployment crisis: China's tech layoffs could become a self-inflicted headache for Xi - CNN [11:36] TR News Web: Curl, Mozilla Firefox, Rust, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163183 [11:36] TR Bot Web: Curl, Mozilla Firefox, Rust, and More | Tux Machines [11:36] matey oh, bother [11:36] DaemonFC "According to Lagou, one of China's largest tech recruitment websites, 2.76 million tech employees marked their status on the platform as "left the job" in March 260,000 more than in December and about 60,000 more than the same month last year. Most of the job losses were concentrated in major cities such as Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou, and Shanghai, Lagou added. " [11:36] DaemonFC THEY TOOK MY JOB! [11:36] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: stay in your lane, CNN [11:36] schestowitz-TR the US economy is rotting [11:36] DaemonFC THEY TOOK HIS JERB! DEY TOOK HIS JERB!!!! DERKA DERRRRRRRR!!!!! [11:36] schestowitz-TR China is at least still producing thingds [11:36] schestowitz-TR *things [11:37] schestowitz-TR WshPo (Bezos) is the same, wrt to Russia esp. [11:37] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Whataboutism. [11:37] schestowitz-TR US economy: JOB GROWTH!! [11:37] schestowitz-TR Russia: haha! ( (Nelson voice) [11:37] DaemonFC Meanwhile, the US "tech" companies fire lots of people. [11:37] DaemonFC Unreported. [11:37] matey China is at least still producing thingds <- yes slave labour has a way of propping up an economy [11:37] schestowitz-TR [11:36] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- edition.cnn.com | Unemployment crisis: China's tech layoffs could become a self-inflicted headache for Xi - CNN [11:37] schestowitz-TR Xi Biden [11:38] schestowitz-TR but this is CNN [11:38] matey say it like james earl jones [11:38] schestowitz-TR Unemployment crisis: US layoffs could become a self-inflicted headache for Biden [11:38] matey "THIS is C N NNNNN" [11:38] schestowitz-TR they just moved the words around alittle [11:38] schestowitz-TR Biden ... GREAT STUFF! [11:39] schestowitz-TR [11:37] Meanwhile, the US "tech" companies fire lots of people. [11:39] schestowitz-TR False [11:39] schestowitz-TR they "don' renew the contract" [11:39] schestowitz-TR you know how it goes [11:39] schestowitz-TR permatemps [11:39] matey schestowitz-TR bad news about harfbuzz [11:39] schestowitz-TR EPO has adopted a similar model [11:39] schestowitz-TR "thank you for your service, goodbye!" [11:39] matey it really isnt fluff [11:40] matey i really dont know how they did text without it before. :/ [11:40] matey i mean obviously, roman text is a piece of cake. [11:40] schestowitz-TR what happens if it is removed? [11:40] schestowitz-TR suppose I just used latin charsets [11:40] matey well let me illustrate with roman text [11:40] matey instead of k you get | < [11:41] matey or |[] [11:41] DaemonFC https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/economy/us-job-openings-quits-february/index.html [11:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/29/economy/us-job-openings-quits-february/index.html [11:41] TR Bot The great resignation continues: 4.4 million Americans quit their jobs last month - CNN [11:41] schestowitz-TR hahaha [11:41] schestowitz-TR "great resignation" lie [11:41] schestowitz-TR I LOVE that lie [11:41] schestowitz-TR people QUIT [11:41] DaemonFC THEY QUIT THEIR JERB! DEY QUIT THEIR JERB!!!! DERKA DERRRRRRRR!!!!! [11:41] schestowitz-TR the economy is SOOO GOOD [11:41] schestowitz-TR that people just leave [11:41] schestowitz-TR blame the peasants [11:41] schestowitz-TR ICBM promotes this lie all the time [11:41] schestowitz-TR CNN [11:42] schestowitz-TR WashPo says the same [11:42] schestowitz-TR See, that's why I ignore those sites [11:42] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I got Mandy in on the DERKA DERRRRRRR! joke (from South Park). I told him that people don't like immigrants because they see them as competition for "their" job. [11:42] matey wazos [11:42] schestowitz-TR they'ere "lying press" [11:42] matey bepo [11:42] matey the beez [11:42] DaemonFC Meanwhile "they" (the citizens) get fired for standing around doing nothing and stealing Cokes out of the machine. [11:42] matey /me likes "bepo [11:42] schestowitz-TR they never criticise SweatshopZone [11:42] schestowitz-TR which is what I call amazon [11:43] schestowitz-TR it managed not only to profit from chinese sweatshos [11:43] matey "but american ones as well! [11:43] schestowitz-TR but to also treat its own direct stuff poorluy [11:43] schestowitz-TR like puting them in sweaty jobvs running around, then discarded after 2 years when they get injured and burned out... and MIGHT - gasp - unionise [11:43] matey amazon: we "fulfil" customers by creating sweatshops to draw more work out of sweatshops [11:44] DaemonFC Coke is pretty twisted. They bought articles praising themselves for this model they have to standardize the flavor of their orange juice year round. [11:44] matey then we call the sweatshops "fulfilment centres" like that isnt right out of fucking 1984 [11:44] schestowitz-TR yeah [11:44] schestowitz-TR like it's santo HQ [11:44] DaemonFC Supposedly, they can control for factors like weather, crop yield, types of oranges, etc. [11:44] schestowitz-TR *santa [11:44] matey happy little elves [11:44] matey sprinkling pixie dust into every carton of goods [11:45] schestowitz-TR "fulfilment" [11:45] schestowitz-TR fulfilment is 5pm [11:45] schestowitz-TR when they finally let you use the bathroom [11:45] matey they can name the delivery drones dasher, dancer, comet, cupid etc [11:45] DaemonFC "The Dark Side leaks to powers some would call...............UNNATURAL." < ----- Like Coca Cola orange juice tasting exactly the same with every bottle. [11:45] schestowitz-TR and you can take off the spying bracelet [11:45] matey one drone has a big red light on the front [11:45] DaemonFC Natural things don't do that! [11:45] schestowitz-TR they stop scoring you until the next day [11:45] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [11:45] matey oh wait no, its a laser [11:45] matey and you can take off the spying bracelet <- "hey, these guys put bracelets on criminals-- LETS TREAT OUR EMPLOYEES THAT WAY!" [11:46] DaemonFC And they never put their name anywhere. They're like Microsoft. It's never Coca Cola orange juice. [11:46] matey that sounds like a sure road to "fulfilment" [11:46] DaemonFC Coca Cola knows their own name is toxic, and calls it Simply Orange instead. [11:46] matey coca cola orange juice sounds pretty disgusting [11:46] matey also minute maid [11:46] DaemonFC They don't want "consumers" to know how few choices there really are at the store. [11:46] DaemonFC That a few companies run all of the "brands". [11:46] schestowitz-TR old tactic [11:46] schestowitz-TR they even buy health drunks [11:46] matey or does pepsi own that now [11:47] schestowitz-TR and water companies [11:47] matey "vitamin water" [11:47] schestowitz-TR so you think you canm get a non-coke choice [11:47] DaemonFC Pepsi has an orange juice. "Tropicana" [11:47] schestowitz-TR but you need to look closer at the packaging [11:47] DaemonFC It's utterly disgusting too. [11:47] matey "dasani" [11:47] schestowitz-TR or follow the chain of ownereship [11:47] schestowitz-TR "I don't use Facebook, I use insta instead" [11:47] DaemonFC Tropicana is like really bitter and low quality, doesn't taste like oranges even. [11:47] schestowitz-TR "I have Coke... I buy Fanta instead" [11:47] DaemonFC Coke's product is at least orange juice. [11:47] matey organ juice [11:47] schestowitz-TR *hate [11:48] DaemonFC I don't know what the fuck Tropicana is. Have you ever tasted an unripe banana? That's what Tropicana is to orange juice. [11:48] schestowitz-TR chemical = tropical [11:48] *zedomati1 (~zedomatic@pyp4jymqza7dw.irc) has joined #techrights [11:48] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@ib2k7hffs2gws.irc) has joined #techrights [11:48] schestowitz-TR imagary verbalised [11:48] matey I don't know what the fuck Tropicana is <- a way for battery companies to unload some of their pollution back into the consumer supply chain [11:48] schestowitz-TR *imagery and imagination [11:49] DaemonFC Biting into an unripe banana is like "OMG, this tastes like green! Like, if green was a flavor, this is what green would taste like!". [11:49] schestowitz-TR "holiday in a plastic bottle [11:49] schestowitz-TR your friends will envy!!" [11:49] *zedomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:50] matey "hmm, weve destroyed all our brands and consolidated everything into 6 companies that produce food, not unlike the media" [11:50] matey "no one wants any of our shit" [11:50] matey ! [11:50] matey "i know! lets spin off some companies!" [11:50] matey "yeah! thatll fix everything!" [11:51] TR News Thankfully, over time more people will realise that 'free' video hosting isn't free and was never free. Vimeo, GulagTube etc. They get something from you, and you get nothing from them, except temporarily [11:51] DaemonFC Their soda business is in trouble. [11:51] schestowitz-TR mcdonalds has many drink options [11:51] schestowitz-TR all from the sa,m compny [11:51] matey the soda business is going to turn into the next tobacco company [11:51] DaemonFC They returned it to profit by getting rid of a lot of their lower volume stuff and jacking up prices. [11:52] matey it might take 50 years of course [11:52] schestowitz-TR it's like fixedf royalty [11:52] matey maybe in the future there will be the beverage equivalent of vaping [11:52] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, McDonalds actually figured out how to "optimize" those sodas too. [11:52] matey its not like they havent already tried a couple times [11:52] matey sodastream-- unpopular with liberals because israeli [11:53] DaemonFC Like, accounting for ice melt, and using the precise mixtures of syrup to water, and how carbonated, exactly, the water should be. [11:53] matey also its all fucking sucralose [11:53] DaemonFC And the correct type of machines to serve it from. [11:53] DaemonFC That's why a Diet Coke tastes better at McDonalds than anywhere else. [11:53] matey and constantly bricking the milkshake machine so that they dont buy those instead! [11:53] DaemonFC Despite being exactly the same soda syrup they sell to everyone else. [11:53] matey "you want WATER? here, we have dasani!" [11:54] DaemonFC You order a Coke at the Chinese restaurant, they don't care about quality control. [11:54] matey they should just change the name to cocadonalds [11:54] matey thats what it is [11:54] matey mccola [11:54] DaemonFC They skimp on the syrup to keep costs down. [11:54] DaemonFC It's all watery and wrong. [11:54] *isak has quit (connection closed) [11:54] matey "ill have cock" [11:54] matey "okay, one cock" [11:55] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [11:57] DaemonFC I was talking to mom about McDonalds getting ready to automate everything. She said they couldn't do worse than the local one. [11:57] DaemonFC Closed half the time because nobody wants to work. [11:57] DaemonFC They were open the other day and gave her a raw hamburger. [11:58] matey ugh [11:58] DaemonFC "Meet your replacement!" [11:58] DaemonFC Robot arm. [11:58] matey "here you go, one burger" [11:58] matey "um, youre not going to like..." [11:58] matey "eh." [11:58] matey im happy to say ive never had that happen [11:58] matey then again i havent ordered a burger in ten years [11:58] DaemonFC The McDonald's here hasn't ever given me anything other than the way I ordered it. ● Mar 31 [12:00] matey they wouldnt dare [12:00] DaemonFC In my experience, there's two kinds of Mexican immigrants. The ones that are on the straight and narrow and run a tight ship (like the ones that own and run most of the McDonald's stores here) and the ones that are, well, not desirable at all, but the Democrats make sure they're out of the jail before ICE shows up for them. [12:00] DaemonFC At least, as a group, they're a mixed bag. [12:00] DaemonFC Puts them ahead of some. *cough* [12:00] matey so mexico SOMETIMES sends us their best (despite what we were told a few years ago) [12:01] matey /me pretends to wonder who *cough* referred to [12:01] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:02] TR News Links 31/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.3 and Ubuntu Kernel Fix | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/gnu-poke-2-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/gnu-poke-2-3/ [12:02] TR Bot Links 31/03/2022: GNU Poke 2.3 and Ubuntu Kernel Fix | Techrights [12:02] DaemonFC I actually just laugh now at how much bullshit NPR and the rest manage to churn out. [12:02] DaemonFC Black people on a grievance tour about everything from medical care to people watching them closely at the store. [12:03] TR News GNU/Linux Skills and Linux Foundation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163184 [12:03] TR Bot GNU/Linux Skills and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines [12:03] DaemonFC They have a lot to complain about, but they're not happy with it, so they make other stuff up. [12:03] DaemonFC Like doctors trying to kill them. [12:03] matey im pretty sure EVERYONE is on a grievance tour about medical care, probably because its a terrible system [12:04] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: enough... [12:04] DaemonFC "IT'S A GODDAMNED CONSPIRACY! AND YOU'RE IN ON IT, AND SO ARE YOU!" -NPR [12:04] schestowitz-TR in the us, blacks and trans people suffer enough already [12:04] matey npr isnt part of a conspiracy, so thats nice [12:04] schestowitz-TR stop picking on them in a tech channel [12:04] DaemonFC Like Ron White said, he was profiled. [12:05] DaemonFC The cops were pulling over everyone driving down that particular sidewalk. [12:06] DaemonFC npr isnt part of a conspiracy, so thats nice [12:06] DaemonFC NPR is part of a conspiracy. [12:06] matey that was the joke yes [12:07] DaemonFC They've been gutted and turned into a meat puppet for the 1% to look like they're "public radio". Now, in 2003, NPR listeners were better informed than cabloid news "consumers". [12:07] matey something we agree on [12:07] DaemonFC 33% of Fox News viewers at the time thought there were WMDs in Iraq, and 20% for CNN, and 11% for NPR. [12:08] matey this is why we cant have nice things [12:08] DaemonFC So obviously, Bush had to corrupt NPR. So he cut their funding in half and Mr. Bill, Walmart, Exxon, Bezos, Koch Industries, and so on came in to fund it. [12:08] matey we make them, then a bunch of dicks in suits decide they own everything, so push over [12:08] schestowitz-TR the "patriots" [12:08] schestowitz-TR the [12:08] schestowitz-TR "job creators" [12:08] matey nixon also corrupted npr [12:09] matey but this doesnt negate bush making it even worse [12:09] matey and Mr. Bill, Walmart, Exxon, Bezos, Koch Industries, and so on came in to fund it. <- at least this didnt turn npr into a bullshit shell of its former self. they have "standards" [12:10] DaemonFC It would be better if Fox News viewers were seriously uninformed. Instead of admitting that they know nothing, they just regurgitate the bullshit. Like, if anyone remembers anything, it'll be there were WMDs in Iraq because Bill O'Reilly said there were. [12:10] matey if you have any real news, theres a "tiny desk" for it [12:10] matey next to the worlds tiniest violin [12:10] matey It would be better if Fox News viewers were seriously uninformed. <- if only it were possible [12:10] DaemonFC I actually asked one of them on Amazon Forums years later to show me which WMDs were found in Iraq. [12:11] matey tubes! [12:11] DaemonFC And they linked to an article about some expired mustard gas left over from the Iran-Iraq war. [12:11] matey which rumsfeld sold them [12:11] matey "you want them back now?" [12:11] matey "is there a refund?" [12:12] matey "theyre probably not any good, but if you want to come pick them up..." [12:12] matey and they probably left them there after invading. Liars! [12:12] matey "we got the tubes though. we were worried about saddam having an erector set" [12:18] matey they were right about one thing, saddam had Wealth to be Made into Dollars [12:19] DaemonFC Well, when they found Saddam in a hole, he had a bunch of US Dollars with him. [12:20] DaemonFC Obviously, he had tried to escape and buy his way into some other country that wouldn't extradite, like the Nazis. [12:20] DaemonFC But he had waited too long and couldn't get out. [12:20] matey putlin is in ukr because he found out they have wtbmirs [12:22] matey Obviously, he had tried to escape and buy his way into some other country that wouldn't extradite <- im not sure a lack of extradition treaty really helps when theyre willing to pretend saudi arabia is really your country as a reason to invade and kill you. [12:22] matey but i suppose it would have made things easier if he had just stayed in the fucking palace [12:26] TR News Blair Vidakovich on GNU as a Movement | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/gnu-as-a-movement/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/gnu-as-a-movement/ [12:26] TR Bot Blair Vidakovich on GNU as a Movement | Techrights [12:27] TR News Blair is a community organizer and software freedom advocate from Perth, Western Australia." http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/gnu-as-a-movement/ [12:30] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/mafui504/status/1509473597907103747#m [12:30] TR Bot (@mafui504): "Did he even watch the movie?" | nitter [12:31] schestowitz https://twitter.com/Wikinaut/status/1509277525339521043 [12:31] TR Bot cc @zoobab @schestowitz https://t.co/vO4iwmfNpp [12:31] TR Bot The Russian govt legalizes parallel imports: the sale of goods without the permission of copyright holders. The https://t.co/DyqdHQY9Gn [12:34] *matey has quit (connection closed) [12:55] *zedomati1 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:56] TR News Gemini address: . It's basically becoming a noise machine, rapidly turning into a form of advertising, not a tool of communication. It's part [cref 157252 of a broader trend], which I think should compel more people to leave for good. It's becoming more about indoctrination/propaganda than anything else. [12:56] TR News As Twitter Activity Decreases (Twitter Channels the Remaining Traffic Into Fewer Accounts for Engagement”), Notifications Transition Into ICYMI Mode (SPAM) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/twitter-is-clickbait/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/twitter-is-clickbait/ [12:57] TR Bot As Twitter Activity Decreases (Twitter Channels the Remaining Traffic Into Fewer Accounts for Engagement), Notifications Transition Into ICYMI Mode (SPAM) | Techrights [12:58] TR News Installation and Review of Bodhi Linux [Lightweight Distro] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163185 [12:58] TR Bot Installation and Review of Bodhi Linux [Lightweight Distro] | Tux Machines [12:58] TR News 5 Best Free and Open Source Continuous Integration Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163186 [12:58] TR Bot 5 Best Free and Open Source Continuous Integration Systems | Tux Machines [12:58] TR News LibreOffice 7.3.2 Community available for download Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163187 [12:58] TR Bot LibreOffice 7.3.2 Community available for download | Tux Machines [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 69.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 442.18 [12:59] *CrystalMath (~coderain@zcvtpjhnuhtte.irc) has joined #techrights ● Mar 31 [13:00] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:01] *zedomati1 (~zedomatic@yce8dtecxanee.irc) has joined #techrights [13:08] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163188 [13:08] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:09] TR News When I left Twitter a month ago (account still online, but itll never be active again) it felt like the platform had become a provocation machine, prioritising emotional reaction (e.g. clickbait) instead of substance one actually subscribed for (followed); it has gotten even worse since http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/twitter-is-clickbait/ [13:32] *bnchs (~bnchs@b9y3gwedhcw4u.irc) has joined #techrights [13:32] bnchs hey guys have you ever heard of this [13:32] bnchs https://wearexena.com/ [13:32] TR Bot We Are Xena | Tech Recruitment for Women in Engineering and Product [13:33] bnchs "diversity" trolls who only recruit woman [13:33] bnchs "we only recruit women" [13:33] *matey (~matey@r6euiqubu4z6w.irc) has joined #techrights [13:33] bnchs "diversity matters" [13:34] *birkoff has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [13:35] bnchs a sexist "diversity" troll company that hires only women [13:35] matey /me wants diversity without the corporate fuckery and the ultra-left communism, its the best kind [13:36] bnchs https://wearexena.com/a-trans-perspective-what-its-really-like-for-women-in-tech/ [13:36] TR Bot A Trans Perspective: What Its Really Like For Women In Tech - Xena [13:36] bnchs "At first I was working on computers as a hobby. It was just a fun thing to do in my spare time. I started getting involved in the free and open-source software community. But then off the back of that I got offered a position at Microsoft. That led to my whole professional career, working with computers." [13:36] bnchs "a position at Microsoft" [13:36] bnchs makes sense [13:36] matey But then off the back of that I got offered a position at Microsoft. <- there was the first mistake [13:36] *roger_rabbit has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:37] matey /me goes to read the article [13:37] schestowitz-TR working for crime [13:37] schestowitz-TR there's ethics for you [13:37] schestowitz-TR diversity [13:37] schestowitz-TR even women can participate in the crime [13:37] schestowitz-TR win! [13:37] matey lets be fair, its not all crime [13:37] matey theres quite a lot of theft, too [13:37] bnchs i hate these "diversity" troll companies [13:37] schestowitz-TR there is a veiled purpose to it [13:38] bnchs claiming to be "diverse" by excluding certain races and genders [13:38] schestowitz-TR it provokes people [13:38] schestowitz-TR for stroing reaction [13:38] schestowitz-TR and then helps remove opinionated people [13:38] schestowitz-TR leaving only docile obedient people who don't ask questions [13:38] schestowitz-TR bnchs: I just did a video about west africa [13:38] schestowitz-TR and EPO [13:38] schestowitz-TR it covers Microsoft [13:38] schestowitz-TR and corruption [13:40] matey other than being a softie promoting microsoft i cant find anything wrong with it [13:40] schestowitz the example above is extra toxic [13:40] schestowitz as it involves one of the most hated group everywhere [13:40] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/10/20/understanding-autism/ [13:40] TR Bot Guest Post: Understanding Autism for More Complete Inclusion | Techrights [13:40] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/12/12/exploiting-autistic-people/ [13:40] TR Bot EPO Management Now Exploits Autistic People as White-washing Communication Exercise for an Organization Which Has Breached Fundamental Rights | Techrights [13:40] schestowitz those are old tactics [13:40] schestowitz also, as a side perk: [13:40] schestowitz they help lower salaries [13:41] matey theres a difference at least [13:41] schestowitz whereas if we had a truly free market, salaries would inreas [13:41] matey in that the trans advocate seems mostly happy with microsoft [13:41] schestowitz in line with skills and demand for skills [13:41] schestowitz matey: it's a marketing site [13:41] matey of course it is [13:41] schestowitz it does not tell the full story [13:41] schestowitz wait [13:41] matey microsoft is a horrible company [13:41] schestowitz you want me to give you examples of transd peoppple who spilled the beans? [13:41] schestowitz or gay people?> [13:41] matey im only commenting on the article-- i dont doubt for a moment the context is dubious [13:41] schestowitz \many women sue Microsoft [13:42] schestowitz so thuis is smoke and mirrors [13:42] matey i dont doubt it for a second [13:42] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2015/10/11/microsoft-sexism-lawsuits/ [13:42] TR Bot Dont Look at Linux For Sexism, Look at Microsoft (Although Microsoft Hides the Newest Lawsuits) | Techrights [13:42] bnchs wow [13:42] matey /me thinks roy forgets how much of techrights he has seen... [13:42] bnchs so basically this website is just smokescreen for microsoft? [13:43] matey well the fact that it paints microsoft in a good light sort of clinches it [13:43] schestowitz probably other companies [13:43] schestowitz they find that cheaper [13:43] schestowitz than settling lawsuit [13:43] schestowitz pay some PR firms [13:43] schestowitz stuff the search engine [13:43] matey i believe wha ti said was: 12:40 other than being a softie promoting microsoft i cant find anything wrong with it [13:43] schestowitz Microsoft <3 women [13:43] bnchs "You mentioned you were on the Diversity Board at Microsoft." [13:43] schestowitz Microsoft <3 trans [13:43] schestowitz Microsoft <3 Linux [13:43] schestowitz Microsoft <3 ethics [13:43] schestowitz there are even articles saying Microsoft was voted MOST ETHICAL company [13:43] matey microsoft <3 everything [13:43] bnchs uhhh she's on the diversity board at microsoft? [13:43] matey so everything MUST love microsoft [13:43] schestowitz just to throw people off the scent [13:44] schestowitz Microsoft loves bombs [13:44] schestowitz Microsoft loves Russia [13:44] schestowitz Microsoft loves Putin [13:44] matey there are even articles saying Microsoft was voted MOST ETHICAL company <- among companies with a controlling share in github, yes [13:44] schestowitz But Microsoft loves diversity [13:44] schestowitz just likme Putin does [13:44] schestowitz ask pussy riot [13:44] schestowitz anyway, the web is full of fake fake fake [13:44] bnchs the article talks a ton about microsoft [13:44] schestowitz hence I try to switch it off where possible [13:44] matey fortunately. as the WORLDS most ethical company, we can soon count on microsoft to impose their coc on all of us [13:45] bnchs lots of microsoft supported me [13:45] bnchs microsoft paid my costs [13:45] bnchs microsoft is good [13:45] matey anyway, the web is full of fake fake fake <- tell me about it [13:45] schestowitz bribes too [13:45] schestowitz microsoft bribes 'journalists' [13:45] schestowitz and then they give back [13:45] schestowitz it's a criminal company [13:45] schestowitz anything else would bne spurious [13:45] schestowitz or PR [13:45] schestowitz or peolple repeating PR [13:45] schestowitz like Putin/RT [13:46] schestowitz #GatesPartner [13:46] schestowitz #GatesPartnerUnder18 [13:46] matey its important to note that certain groups of people do not have any shills among them [13:46] schestowitz #GatesRichPeople [13:46] *luk1337_ (~luk1337@2a02:6ea0:dc05::a15d) has joined #techrights [13:46] schestowitz "EPO in Africa: Microsoft, Corruption, and Colonialism" [13:46] matey it cant be blacks because malcolm x talked about how awful black shills were [13:46] schestowitz My nest headline [13:47] matey it cant be gays, because josh simmons is a shill [13:47] matey its certainly cant be white men, because-- fuck, a LOT of white men are terrible fucking shills (including simmons) [13:47] bnchs its the opposite now [13:47] schestowitz-TR simmons is neither [13:47] schestowitz-TR simmons is a tool [13:48] matey you can say that again [13:48] bnchs jobs rejecting white men without saying its because of their race or gener [13:48] schestowitz-TR men don't behave like kids [13:48] schestowitz-TR or speak like them [13:48] bnchs all in the name of diversity [13:48] bnchs because fuck white men [13:48] schestowitz-TR maybe in 10 years companies will hire 6 year olds [13:48] matey still, the diversity craze is losing steam [13:48] schestowitz-TR for "diversity" [13:48] schestowitz-TR anythign else is ageism [13:48] bnchs they will reject 18 year olds [13:48] bnchs or older [13:48] matey maybe because the corporations thought the best response to blm was feign completely agreement and let it run out of steam on its own [13:48] bnchs because diversity [13:49] schestowitz BillBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-32771247 [13:49] TR Bot The six-year-old computer whizz who passed Microsoft exam - BBC News [13:49] schestowitz https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/pakistan-news/four-year-old-pakistan-girl-areesh-fatima-becomes-youngest-microsoft-professional.html [13:49] schestowitz me: [13:49] TR Bot Four-year-old Pakistan girl Areesh Fatima becomes youngest Microsoft professional [13:49] matey the corporations felt they were the hostage, and they shot the hostage (themselves) [13:49] schestowitz OK, so even a little kid can pass it [13:49] schestowitz now I feel a lot better about my cert! [13:49] matey but diversity was a GREAT BIT for industry [13:49] matey fuck these hippies, they arent diverse like us! [13:49] matey you need a suit and tie to care about humanity [13:49] bnchs hot news [13:49] matey so that was fun while it lasted [13:50] bnchs a baby manages to pass microsoft exam [13:50] matey "we move on" [13:50] schestowitz yeah [13:50] matey forward, to ETHICS! [13:50] schestowitz but that's not how BillBC puts it [13:50] bnchs so now he designs pages for government websites [13:50] matey not ethical source, no... just ethics! [13:50] schestowitz microsof <3 kids [13:50] schestowitz #GatesPartner [13:50] matey we are introducing ETHICS to free software FOR THE FIRST TIME [13:50] schestowitz Gates Foundation loves kids [13:50] schestowitz in a plane, too [13:50] matey hooray, finally free software is ethical [13:50] matey thanks brad! [13:50] schestowitz and sandler [13:50] matey oh of course [13:50] schestowitz tim and tam [13:51] bnchs hmm i wonder whats brad doing now [13:51] matey thanks karen "i want to speak to the manager" sandler! [13:52] matey hmm i wonder whats brad doing now <- writing a book about ethics [13:52] matey the first one ever [13:52] schestowitz don choo no microsot loves all the children [13:52] schestowitz and it loves sfc [13:52] schestowitz and gpl [13:52] schestowitz and copyleft [13:52] schestowitz they sent their lopngtime shill to keynote [13:52] matey bringing ethics to a heathen world, like jesus in a tie *rewrites the george michael song* [13:52] matey microsoft <3 copyleft [13:52] bnchs https://github.com/RIAEvangelist/is-my-node-supply-chain-secure [13:52] TR Bot - RIAEvangelist/is-my-node-supply-chain-secure: Scans your computer for node modules that are potentially vulnerable to supply chain attacks. You still need to review the code of modules that are not vulnerable, but this helps. [13:52] bnchs hypocrite [13:53] schestowitz 14 years ago: https://techrights.org/2008/03/11/microsoft-invades-foss/comment-page-2/ [13:53] TR Bot Speculation: Who or What is Walli? (Or How Microsoft Invades FOSS) | Techrights [13:53] schestowitz Brad gave (sold) this man the podium http://techrights.org/2013/06/27/stephen-walli-and-srinivasan/ https://techrights.org/2010/05/19/mole-becomes-cto-of-codeplex/ [13:53] TR Bot Insulting GNU/Linux and Free Software, Courtesy of Microsoft Moles | Techrights [13:53] TR Bot Stephen Walli is Back at Software Patents Aggressor Microsoft After Causing Damage to Software Freedom | Techrights [13:53] matey yes and in 2021 theyre still invading *cough* "open source [13:53] schestowitz in a conference about WHAT HE IS ATTACKING [13:53] matey "even the open software foundation [13:54] matey Brad gave (sold) this man the podium <- like jesus in a tie [13:54] schestowitz well, thew handlr was deb [13:54] matey he was just being magnanimous [13:54] schestowitz according to sfc [13:54] schestowitz she did it two years ina row [13:54] schestowitz then moved to osi [13:54] schestowitz then coordinated with bully [13:54] matey well if anyone is more like jesus than brad, its deb [13:54] schestowitz then left [13:54] schestowitz like simmons [13:55] matey im still having trouble understanding HOW brad is attacking copyleft. because im sure he believes he is helping it. [13:56] schestowitz-TR it's complicated [13:56] schestowitz-TR he promotes copyleft [13:56] schestowitz-TR but other baggage [13:56] matey and when someone really believes theyre helping- yeah, its complicated [13:56] schestowitz-TR there are parallel example [13:56] schestowitz-TR here's a story [13:56] schestowitz-TR brace yourself [13:56] matey oh so hes weighing it down with ballast [13:56] schestowitz-TR in 2009-2012 ish I watched tons of atheist videos in gulagtube [13:56] matey no that seems plausible [13:56] schestowitz-TR back then youtube was still not so bad [13:56] schestowitz-TR there was also a good community [13:56] schestowitz-TR and free speech was a thing [13:56] matey another era [13:57] schestowitz-TR to get banned for "offence" you'd likely need some copyright pretext [13:57] schestowitz-TR like using "too much" of someone's clip [13:57] matey even debian was pretty good back then [13:57] schestowitz-TR anyway, things started to erode [13:57] matey mmhmm [13:57] schestowitz-TR as some people brought in atheism+ [13:57] schestowitz-TR atheism+ was not atheism [13:57] schestowitz-TR it was militant feminism [13:57] schestowitz-TR shoehorned using atheist [13:57] matey the ultra left strikes again [13:57] schestowitz-TR which was a hot topic,even back then [13:58] schestowitz-TR so basically they're mixing things [13:58] schestowitz-TR like anti-war and gay rights [13:58] matey so this is what brads doing to copyleft [13:58] schestowitz-TR are you anti-war? see you all tonight at the gay bar [13:58] schestowitz-TR the issue FSF has is [13:58] schestowitz-TR pepple uses FSF to advance other things [13:58] schestowitz-TR Geoff and RMS repeatedly said it's about one thing [13:58] schestowitz-TR software. freedom. [13:58] schestowitz-TR not russia, or ukraine, or... [13:59] schestowitz-TR but people who support FSF have belief in other things [13:59] matey imo there should be OTHER GROUPS promoting the overlap of freesw with other things [13:59] schestowitz-TR some try to use their ties to FSF to promote other things [13:59] matey but then the fsf does something very stupid [13:59] schestowitz-TR like daemonfc interjecting his racist tripe here [13:59] matey rms does articles weighing in on topics he knows fuck all about really [13:59] matey which is okay [13:59] matey its his right [13:59] matey but then it becomes part of the fsf website... [13:59] schestowitz-TR his site [13:59] schestowitz-TR not gnu [13:59] schestowitz-TR not fsf [13:59] matey no no ● Mar 31 [14:00] schestowitz-TR it even says that at the top [14:00] matey when its on his website its totally fine! [14:00] matey dont get me wrong [14:00] matey i mean his stuff about free culture and free hardware for example [14:00] schestowitz-TR i put my things about covid only in my site [14:00] matey the fsf campaigns against free culture [14:00] matey with fud [14:00] matey you do too-- every time you spread that nonsense about no-derivs [14:00] bnchs how? [14:00] matey but techrights isnt a 501c3 [14:01] matey its worse when the fsf does it [14:01] bnchs whats the fud? [14:01] matey bnchs: ill get to that [14:01] matey but anyway [14:01] matey when this is rms on his personal blog NO PROBLEM [14:01] matey hes got a right to have a personal opinion [14:02] matey other people disagree with that-- i dont [14:02] matey when its an article on the fsf website, and its not about free software... [14:02] bnchs matey: ok link one [14:02] matey hes ensuring that those groups will come to the fsf to fight for those causes [14:02] matey ive probably read it [14:03] matey theres been a cold war going on between free software and free culture for at least a decade [14:03] matey probably 2 [14:03] matey there are many free software people-- even who come here-- who point this out [14:03] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:03] matey and its because the fsf got involved (imo) [14:04] matey and then you had people from cc coming to the fsf [14:04] matey which is okay [14:04] matey but because of "the war" it was all a disaster [14:04] bnchs what war? [14:04] matey note i always blame both sides for this-- but the fsf was part of the problem [14:04] matey bnchs: the one youll hear about if you pay attention to (other) people coming here to talk about it [14:04] matey its not a new war, its an old ongoing one [14:05] matey between the fsf and free culture (fuck cc, they can drop in the ocean) [14:05] matey cc isnt free culture (it could have been) [14:06] matey former vp mike linksvayer tried to tranform cc into a free culture outfit-- he failed [14:06] matey he had some good ideas [14:06] matey imo they stopped being worth a penny the minute he failed [14:07] matey fsf made all of this worse [14:07] matey they propped up the wrong side [14:07] matey the side that actually hurts their own goals-- it was so stupid [14:07] matey ensuring the war would go on forever-- or until the fsf was destroyed [14:07] matey this isnt why the fsf is failing [14:07] matey its why they dont have more allies [14:08] matey its also the reason i stopped giving them money [14:08] matey its not just me, this is the #1 longest running cause the fsf stands against (other than non-free software) [14:09] matey its probably the reason david revoy signed the fucking letter (linksvayer did too) [14:09] matey he shouldnt have [14:12] matey bnchs: rms (regarding free software) has said for years that copyright doesnt "protect a work" [14:12] matey when he talks about "works of opinion" he does a complete and logical 180 and acts like it does (he was right the first time-- if copyright protected a work, people couldnt have taken his emails out of context-- they werent under a free license) [14:13] matey so we have this life-changing event to show how right he is about how copyright doesnt "protect" a work [14:13] bnchs so basically [14:13] matey and he still plasters bullshit about no-derivs all over the fsf and/or gnu website implying it does [14:13] bnchs copyright does protect a work [14:13] bnchs if you have enough resources [14:13] bnchs otherwise GPL and shit would not work [14:14] matey well thats another thing [14:14] matey copyright DOES protect a work when its copyleft, i guess [14:14] matey but AGAIN-- there are copyleft free culture licenses [14:14] matey and ONCE AGAIN, the protection ONLY applies (magically, through the forces of handwavy bullshit) to software [14:15] matey and not works of opinion [14:15] TR News EPO in Africa: Microsoft, Corruption, and Colonialism | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-and-colonialism/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-and-colonialism/ [14:15] TR Bot EPO in Africa: Microsoft, Corruption, and Colonialism | Techrights [14:15] matey for software you cant have no-derivs and it wont help! [14:15] matey for OPINIONS no-derivs gives protection but copyleft wont! [14:15] matey (but it will, but hes full of shit) [14:15] matey now heres the important part [14:16] matey THERES LITERALLY AN ENTIRE MOVEMENT that knows hes full of shit about this. [14:16] matey but the fsf has to spread fud agaisnt that movement [14:16] matey NOT to protect free software [14:16] matey ONLY to "protect" stallmans "works of opinion" [14:16] matey its bloody fucking ridiculous [14:16] matey but again-- this has cost the fsf loads of support over the years [14:16] matey from people who are both free software AND free culture advocates [14:17] matey who fucking hate the fsf spreading fud against their movement [14:17] matey its dumb, worthless fud [14:17] matey and when you pay the fsf, one of the things you pay them to do [14:17] matey is campaign against this (hardly free-software-related-- but SORT of related) cause [14:17] matey so i stopped giving them money, hoping someday they would change [14:18] matey its been a number of years now [14:18] matey they wont likely change this as long as stallman is there [14:18] matey this is the fsfs fault really-- but, in fairness [14:18] matey free software is not faultless here either [14:18] matey sorry [14:19] matey free culture is not faultless here either [14:19] matey both sides have fucked up [14:19] matey since free culture has never had a REAL organisation for more than 5 minutes-- something i campaigned for years ago [14:19] matey theres no free culture foundation we can blame [14:20] matey there was however. students for free culture renamed themselves the free culture foundation at one point [14:20] matey but rms could have done more from a twitter account than the fcf managed to do for themselves as an org [14:21] matey and cc isnt a free culture organisation, though a lot of people wished it had become one [14:21] schestowitz-TR cc is not softare [14:21] schestowitz-TR don't overmix imho [14:21] matey cc is not softare <- wrong and wrong wrong [14:21] schestowitz-TR "we support free software" [14:21] matey don't overmix imho <- tell the fsf, you werent paying attention. [14:21] schestowitz-TR someone in the crowd: BUT WHAT ABOUT THE WOMEN? [14:22] matey first of all, youre wrong that cc isnt software [14:22] schestowitz-TR I amm trying something [14:22] matey cc0 is on the gpl-compatible licenses page on the fsf website [14:22] schestowitz-TR so did not read all the above just yet [14:22] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/president-meme.jpg [14:22] matey cc0 software IS FREE SOFTWARE (per the fsfs own website) [14:22] matey second, the cc licenses are now gpl-compatible [14:22] matey i said they werent in an email to rms [14:23] matey he said no, some of the cc 4.0 license are gpl-compatible and can be used for free software [14:23] matey whether they SHOULD be is another matter-- the fsf doesnt encourage that [14:23] matey but at least one of the 4.0 licenses is gpl-compatible [14:23] matey and thus can be used as a free software license [14:23] matey so this cc is not softare <- simply untrue [14:24] matey there was a cc0 "licensed" game someone made a year ago [14:24] matey i suggested you mention it, since it was a new free software game [14:24] matey for whatever reason you chose not to [14:24] matey i thought you were interested in free software games. the assets were also cc0 [14:25] matey LITERALLY ANY gpl licensed game could have used any part of that work-- software or game assets [14:25] matey maybe you thought cc0 wasnt software. but you could have gone to the fsf licenses page and checked [14:28] matey a public domain dedication is also considered gpl compatible [14:28] matey the problem with a public domain dedication is it wont have any effect in finland (for example) [14:28] matey if you want to submit something to the public domain in finland you have to find some way to die first [14:29] matey but you CAN use a free license, so cc0 is a public domain dedication first, and a fallback license if the dedication doesnt work [14:29] matey and since the fallback license (successfully) grants everything it possibly can grant to the recipient [14:30] matey its gpl-compatible even in finland [14:30] matey this means cc0 is actually more gpl-compatible than a public domain dedication is. [14:30] matey and thats why it should be used instead of a pdd. [14:37] TR News [Meme] In Just a Few Years Antnio Campinos is Undoing Decades of His Fathers Legacy | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/not-jorge/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/not-jorge/ [14:37] TR Bot [Meme] In Just a Few Years Antnio Campinos is Undoing Decades of His Fathers Legacy | Techrights [14:39] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22032946 [14:39] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/6aka5pnadvp81.jpg created on 2022-03-29 18:24:01.670787 [14:39] matey what i like about openbsd is that regardless of how they spend their spare time, they wash their hands afterwards [14:40] matey its lennart and co who demand to leave stiff socks and sticky tissues all over my computer, no matter where i go to get away from them [14:40] matey linus must be the only monkey in finland who doesnt masturbate, so he has greg come to do it for him, thats so much better [14:41] MinceR i thought he moved to the USA [14:42] matey yes, like so many uppity europeans who spend a lifetime looking down their noses at americans only to become one [14:42] matey but i still think of him as a finn (if he claims finnish-american i have no quarrel with that) [14:42] matey so s/monkey in/monkey from/ just to be completely correct [14:43] matey i still think of him as a finn because ive always thought of him as one, and the times ive heard about him being in the states i can count on one... well i better not, or he might comment on how i spend my spare time as well [14:44] matey but at least i can count the instances with one hand free. [14:45] matey the short but less amusing version is hes a fucking hypocrite, but that shouldnt be news to anyone by now [14:46] matey for a long time he managed to keep a lot of bullshit from getting into the kernel [14:46] matey meanwhile, the "masturbating monkeys" CONTINUE to keep a lot of bullshit from getting into the kernel [14:46] matey maybe its like they say, and a reasonable amount of masturbation is truly harmless. [14:47] matey but i dont know how people are raised in finland. maybe his hands were too cold, i couldnt tell you. [14:47] matey "shit! cold hands!" [14:47] matey "i think ill just type something instead" [14:48] matey linux: cures masturbation... at least for the first couple decades [14:51] TR News [Meme] Best in the World. At Cheating and Bribing Media. | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-cheating-and-bribing-media/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-cheating-and-bribing-media/ [14:51] TR Bot [Meme] Best in the World. At Cheating and Bribing Media. | Techrights [14:51] *zedomati1 has quit (connection closed) [14:51] XRevan86 "Agency" renamed itself back to Proekt [14:52] matey what is it [14:52] XRevan86 A Russian investigative and news resource [14:52] matey still? [14:53] XRevan86 https://proekt.media/en/home/ [14:53] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://proekt.media/en/home/ ) [14:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: proekt.media | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://proekt.media/en/home/ [14:53] matey but i mean, even now? [14:53] matey the story goes theyre all mouthpieces now [14:53] matey but maybe thats an overgeneralisation [14:53] XRevan86 Independent media exists, it just functions from abroad. [14:53] matey that was my other guess [14:53] XRevan86 Like Media, The Insider, Mediazona, et al. [14:54] schestowitz-TR [14:52] A Russian investigative and news resource [14:54] schestowitz-TR Europe needs one [14:54] schestowitz-TR it doesn't have it [14:54] schestowitz-TR European policians have become 'masturbating monkeys' [14:54] matey ugh [14:54] schestowitz-TR celebrating low corruption [14:54] schestowitz-TR and then citing themselves as proof [14:54] XRevan86 I wonder if they can restore all the publications they purged when they closed Proekt the first time. [14:54] matey siding with linus is only one step removed from siding with jim at this point [14:55] schestowitz-TR jim is a liar [14:55] schestowitz-TR even before he knew what Linux is [14:55] matey linus is full of shit [14:55] *zedomati1 (~zedomatic@yce8dtecxanee.irc) has joined #techrights [14:55] schestowitz-TR he did lying for a living [14:55] matey there are nuanced differences [14:55] schestowitz-TR and he still does [14:55] matey jim is worse [14:55] schestowitz-TR so not much adaptation was needed [14:55] XRevan86 Seems like they have. [14:55] matey he did lying for a living <- and linus only spread bullshit as a charity [14:55] matey he does a lot of work for it but doesnt like to talk about it [14:56] TR News LibreOffice 7.3.2 Office Suite Is Now Available for Download with 74 Bug Fixes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163189 [14:56] TR Bot LibreOffice 7.3.2 Office Suite Is Now Available for Download with 74 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines [14:56] matey linus was an anti-free software shill for most of his career [14:56] matey now hes done [14:56] matey basically [14:56] XRevan86 Compliance became impossible, so they just stop compromising. [14:57] schestowitz-TR matey: now he's the mascot [14:57] schestowitz-TR the cameo [14:57] matey granted the ways he shilled were LARGELY compatible with free softwares image [14:57] schestowitz-TR "stay here and smile" [14:57] matey matey: now he's the mascot [14:57] schestowitz-TR "your face has market value" [14:57] matey good thing theres already a penguin [14:57] matey or they might dress him up as a monkey [14:57] schestowitz-TR "just do what we tell you... about rust... and tRust Microsoft" [14:58] matey i imagine penguins have a more difficult time with those flippers [14:58] matey but i dont really know [14:58] schestowitz-TR linus loves diving [14:58] matey me pictures alan partridge when he breaks his hand, looking at the splint [14:58] schestowitz-TR penguins are good at it [14:58] schestowitz-TR that's how they catch fish [14:59] matey yes, flippers are certainly good for something [14:59] schestowitz-TR spanking [14:59] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/11/21/sending-linus-torvalds-to-therapists/ [14:59] TR Bot [Meme] They Send Linus Torvalds to Therapists While Microsoft Pays Their Full Salary | Techrights [14:59] matey jim really is a dick [14:59] schestowitz microsoft loves [spanking] linux/linus ● Mar 31 [15:05] matey when i look at jim zemlin i always think its ed begley jr [15:05] matey of course ed begley looks a lot older now [15:05] matey so give jim another 10-20 years [15:06] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Wahlberg [15:06] TR Bot Mark Wahlberg - Wikipedia [15:06] schestowitz zemlin [15:06] schestowitz except without tact [15:06] schestowitz zemlin at TED: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/What-the-Tech-Industry-Has-Learned-from-Linus-Torvalds_-Jim-Zemlin-at-TEDxConcordia-U-Portland.mp4 [15:06] schestowitz fake zemlin at red 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_2 [15:06] TR Bot Ted 2 - Wikipedia [15:06] matey i suppose their facial shapes have some commonalities [15:07] schestowitz not just that [15:07] schestowitz they are both actors [15:07] matey of course [15:07] matey /me wonders what the stuffed gnu would say if it could talk [15:07] matey surely it would have a boston accent like ted [15:07] matey and wahlberg [15:07] schestowitz all jim needs not is a self-described "filmmaker" like spamnil [15:07] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [15:08] schestowitz 8 days, 9 video views [15:08] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [15:08] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:09] matey all jim needs not is a self-described "filmmaker" i know the perfect man for the job [15:09] matey kanye west [15:09] matey this is just the sort of thing kanye can get behind [15:10] schestowitz-TR btw some of these views are spamnil and the guests checking the upload [15:10] matey plus im sure he can hold a camera [15:10] schestowitz-TR this is how they killed linux.com [15:10] schestowitz-TR they did an elop on it [15:10] schestowitz-TR put incompetent person in charge [15:10] schestowitz-TR post some pro-Microsoft trash [15:10] schestowitz-TR and there, your audience is gone very quickly [15:11] matey kanye does fashion now [15:11] schestowitz-TR ha [15:11] matey lf does events [15:11] schestowitz-TR to be fair, I like/d some of his music [15:11] matey there can be linux shoes, $500 a pair [15:11] schestowitz-TR he does have some talent [15:11] matey to be fair, I like/d some of his music <- i dont hate him or anything [15:11] schestowitz-TR GNU would tkae cornell west [15:11] matey but you CAN make fun of something by putting kanye in charge of it [15:12] schestowitz-TR he's more fitting for freesw [15:12] schestowitz-TR and says outrageous things, like rms [15:12] matey so was eben moglen :/ [15:12] schestowitz-TR kwest is like linus [15:12] schestowitz-TR talks trash [15:12] schestowitz-TR cwest is a genius [15:12] schestowitz-TR hence the system rejects him [15:12] schestowitz-TR even his own UNI!! [15:13] matey that does sound vaguely familiar [15:13] matey oh yes [15:14] matey i hope that stunt costs mit some future professors [15:14] matey it would serve them fucking right [15:14] matey first they killed aaron [15:14] matey then they wrongfully fired rms [15:14] matey they used to be cool [15:14] schestowitz-TR they are cool [15:15] matey bah [15:15] schestowitz-TR with spstein/gates [15:15] matey oh right [15:15] schestowitz-TR they covered for them [15:15] matey they really picked a winner there [15:15] schestowitz-TR to pretect the ral culprits [15:15] schestowitz-TR they even asked gates lawsyers [15:15] matey maybe gates will get an honourary degree from them [15:15] schestowitz-TR that's what they mean by investigation [15:15] matey did harvard ever give him one? [15:15] schestowitz-TR they did the samer to swartz [15:15] schestowitz-TR more of a blame-shiftinf cover-up report [15:15] matey they went just a bit harder after aaron than gates though [15:15] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/ [15:15] TR Bot Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights [15:15] matey maybe if aaron had been a millionaire [15:16] schestowitz released around xmas when nobody pays much attention [15:16] schestowitz just like reports about the arrests at bill's home [15:16] matey merry sellout christmas [15:16] matey i hope the domes cave in. [15:16] matey i was a huge fan of mit when i was a kid [15:16] matey even visited [15:16] schestowitz-TR pentagon (darpa) will bail them out again [15:16] schestowitz-TR drone "research" and stuff [15:16] schestowitz-TR boston synamics [15:16] matey indeed [15:17] MinceR "The more often Pinocchio lies, the longer his table becomes." >> https://ircz.de/p/22032315 [15:17] matey though thats in a different town [15:17] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/91g71nz793o81.jpg created on 2022-03-23 05:24:01.064797 [15:17] schestowitz-TR then they can do some mit movies [15:17] schestowitz-TR about epic scientists there [15:17] matey rofl@table [15:17] schestowitz-TR with campus scenes [15:17] matey i already met the most epic scientist at mit [15:18] matey he died years ago, very old [15:18] matey though rms is probably cooler in a number of ways [15:18] schestowitz matey: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FSF-Microsoft.png [15:18] schestowitz MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FSF-Microsoft.png [15:19] MinceR :) [15:20] schestowitz-TR what's with the other url? [15:20] schestowitz-TR the one with putin and candy on his head? [15:20] MinceR lol [15:20] matey http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FSF-Microsoft.png <- hmm, doesnt show the gnu developers fighting over scraps that pudding throws off [15:21] MinceR schestowitz: which one? [15:21] matey the url to the png [15:22] matey its funny how centauri putlins furnishings look. daemonfc would know http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/FSF-Microsoft.png [15:22] matey "great maker!" [15:23] MinceR Shai-Hulud? [15:23] matey i was thinking londo mollari [15:23] schestowitz-TR https://ircz.de/p/22033055 [15:23] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/itenqcyspsp81.jpg created on 2022-03-30 15:53:09.737716 [15:23] matey but he was derivative in a number of ways [15:24] matey i mean the coats looked like something from napoleons garage sale [15:24] matey and the hair-- looked like one of napoleons hats [15:25] matey pudding obviously wants to be stalin [15:25] matey but i but you hes a pretty big fan of napoleon too [15:25] matey bet you [15:28] matey also putlin looks most like the actor who was in first contact and love actually [15:28] schestowitz-TR https://ircz.de/m/pics/2022/03/28/18/49/09/44029c2e163d63bf8341789edd842a92230b7569.png [15:28] matey but youd have to put a LOT of makeup on him [15:29] matey smooth the hell out of his face [15:29] MinceR emacs, the operating system [15:29] matey emacs was a better os than systemd and i never used it either [15:29] MinceR + [15:29] matey the difference was that emacs was optional and less of a bother to learn [15:30] MinceR well, i used it for spook and SLIME [15:30] psydruid one of my professors came from MIT [15:30] schestowitz https://stallman.org/ [15:30] TR Bot Richard Stallman's Personal Page [15:30] schestowitz "" [15:30] schestowitz Upcoming talks [15:30] schestowitz No upcoming talk. [15:30] schestowitz " [15:30] matey theyre probably good at what they do [15:31] matey its the school that fucking sucks [15:31] psydruid even though it's usually the other way around [15:31] psydruid yeah [15:31] psydruid http://homepage.tudelft.nl/t5g29/CV.html [15:31] TR Bot Curriculum Vitae - Professor Ian T. Young [15:32] psydruid I guess he left and never went back except as a guest lecturer [15:32] matey place of birth Chicago, Illinois [15:32] matey /me hides it from dfc [15:33] matey lets see your professor survive the crazy streets of chicago! [15:33] matey "are you kidding, i was born there" [15:33] psydruid Chicago was probably a different place back then [15:33] matey hes been everywhere [15:33] schestowitz https://stallman.org/ [15:33] schestowitz ""They" is plural for singular antecedents, use singular gender-neutral pronouns." [15:34] matey Chicago was probably a different place back then <- yes and no. in some ways its never changed [15:34] matey im confident it at least looked nicer [15:35] schestowitz-TR when I was younger we said "he or she" [15:35] matey "They" is plural for singular antecedents, use singular gender-neutral pronouns." <- pretending that he speaks a version of english that hannt changed in more significant ways than this [15:35] schestowitz-TR three vowels [15:35] schestowitz-TR not too hard [15:35] matey he or she excludes non binary [15:35] matey and they is simpler [15:35] matey i use to say he or she, but it sounds stilted next to "they" [15:35] schestowitz-TR anyway.. [15:35] schestowitz-TR . [15:35] schestowitz-TR his site does not mention the talk [15:35] schestowitz-TR I checked last week also [15:36] matey stallman is taking up a very american pastime [15:36] schestowitz-TR pasttime? [15:36] matey preserving a version of english that isnt british as though its not itself something that made changes [15:36] schestowitz-TR anyway, I also agree with RMS [15:36] schestowitz-TR they means plutral [15:36] schestowitz-TR some people create confusion [15:36] schestowitz-TR even at work [15:36] matey you can agree all you like-- singular they has been in use for AGES [15:36] matey not just your lifetime [15:36] schestowitz-TR you cannot distinguish how many people are invoilved [15:36] schestowitz-TR numerated words do have a purpose [15:37] schestowitz-TR same for gendered words [15:37] matey so what youre agreeing on is pretending that the word is more limited than it really is [15:37] schestowitz-TR you know what number to expect and can distinguish groups [15:37] matey numerated words do have a purpose <- singular they also has a purpose [15:37] schestowitz-TR like a word for many females [15:37] schestowitz-TR a word for many males [15:37] schestowitz-TR and fore singles [15:37] matey hes correct that singular they is less ambiguous [15:37] schestowitz-TR even inside verbs [15:37] schestowitz-TR and inside adjectives [15:37] matey but its a strong protest of a very small non-problem [15:37] schestowitz-TR but anyway [15:37] schestowitz-TR regarding his [15:37] schestowitz-TR talk [15:37] schestowitz-TR which I shall watch [15:37] matey where they is ambiguous you can just use the persons name again [15:38] schestowitz-TR the fsf mentioned it in the calendar [15:38] matey like lrowe, when they is ambiguous you can just use their name again <- no ambiguous they in this sentence [15:38] matey stallmans entire protest is that a word is ambiguous, when many of the uses hes protesting are not! [15:38] schestowitz-TR names are more unique, yes [15:39] schestowitz-TR matey: the ones he protests are worse [15:39] schestowitz-TR they are misleading propaganda term [15:39] schestowitz-TR deceit being their intent [15:39] matey no... [15:39] schestowitz-TR like "intangiable sssets" [15:39] matey no, i dont think so [15:39] matey he was literally complaining its gramaticalyl ambiguous [15:39] matey its entirely about grammar [15:39] matey not political context [15:40] matey and the grammatical ambiguity is easy to solve [15:40] matey not all uses are gramatically ambiguous-- when a use is, use the name instead [15:40] matey really simple. no need for per pers etc [15:41] matey when its not ambiguous singular they can be used (just like kal in hindi) [15:41] matey in hindi you know whether kal is yesterday or tomorrow from context [15:41] matey from tense [15:41] matey so the word is ambiguous but the usage isnt [15:41] matey similarly, you can use singular they and have the context COMPLETELY clear its singular [15:42] matey no ambiguity [15:42] matey stallman is in error about this [15:42] matey hes solving a problem that neednt exist in the first place [15:42] matey and singular they isnt that bad [15:42] matey plus hes willing to use it if people ask him to [15:43] matey so hes not even against it [15:43] matey "per" se [15:43] matey and the funniest part is! [15:43] matey open source makes the same argument about free being ambiguous [15:43] matey and its just as crappy an argument then. [15:45] matey 99% of the time if someone is talking about an apple computer it isnt a fruit [15:45] matey its a computer. we could say apple is ambiguous [15:46] matey puppy linux-- omg is it a dog or a distro? its so confusing! [15:46] matey techrights. what do you mean, rights like user rights or rights like take a right at the next light? i dont know [15:46] matey completely a non-problem. [15:47] matey ambiguity comes from poorly formed sentences, blaming the individual word is a waste of time [15:48] schestowitz-TR doing an rms meme [15:49] matey what do you mean, an african swallow or swallow like you do when you eat or drink something? [15:49] matey "what? i dont know that! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!" [15:49] *birkoff (birkoff@joseon-adfd07.pp8t.eshf.59jtia.IP) has joined #techrights [15:50] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/rms-drilling.jpg [15:50] matey that was a quick one [15:51] matey i like it, but im unaware of the nazi google connection [15:52] schestowitz-TR github [15:52] matey /me looks again [15:52] matey whats the nazi github connection? [15:52] schestowitz-TR ties into ICBM too [15:52] matey other than i think github was one of hitlers men [15:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/ [15:53] matey "everyone except github, steiner, and krebs leave the room" [15:53] TR Bot IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | Techrights [15:53] matey "WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON WITH MICROSOFT! IM JUST TRYING TO DOWNLOAD PUPPY LINUX!" [15:53] matey /me throws pencil at the desk [15:53] schestowitz-TR shouts something about stalin [15:54] schestowitz-TR schtalleeeen [15:54] matey hes not really like stalin unless he would make a pact with hitler [15:54] matey and churchhill [15:55] matey hitler thought churchhill would destroy stalin and churchhill thought the nazis would beat them [15:55] schestowitz any typos in http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/rage-against-the-system/ ? [15:55] TR Bot [Meme] Rage Against the Machine (Military-Industrial Complex) | Techrights [15:55] matey no idea [15:56] matey but [15:56] matey still looking at the graphic [15:56] matey granted its in very small letters but its RIGHT THERE [15:57] matey is the github nazi connection [15:57] matey so it actually explains it. i missed it the first time [15:57] schestowitz-TR it seems like fsf tries to take back the term social justice [15:57] schestowitz-TR in the context of sw freedom [15:57] schestowitz-TR I saw that in the intros [15:57] matey thats a bad strategy [15:57] schestowitz-TR it says freesw is about social justice [15:58] matey but they have so many, one more wont matter [15:58] schestowitz-TR I think it's like taking the word "gay" [15:58] matey yes, except not everyone is trying to claim theyre gay [15:58] schestowitz-TR not saying it's a good idea [15:58] schestowitz-TR check the audio versions of talks [15:58] schestowitz-TR the intros [15:59] matey theyre all about social justice now? ● Mar 31 [16:00] matey the sjws missed an opportunity [16:00] schestowitz-TR but you see? [16:00] schestowitz-TR if it's overused [16:00] matey to call themselves the social justice league and have even more of a marvel tie-in [16:00] schestowitz-TR then they lose control of it [16:00] schestowitz-TR and then cannot weaponise it [16:00] matey they should have done it sooner then [16:00] schestowitz-TR monty python [16:00] schestowitz-TR i''m juses [16:00] schestowitz-TR and so is my wife [16:01] schestowitz-TR *jesus [16:01] matey oh yes the sparticus gambit [16:01] schestowitz-TR that can be a strategy also [16:01] matey or the sparticus defence [16:01] matey mmhmm [16:01] schestowitz-TR you frame it to show the hypocrisy [16:01] schestowitz-TR andf the doubel standards [16:01] schestowitz-TR like people who work foir evil companies [16:01] schestowitz-TR who themselves (both the people and the companies) pretend to be some sort of charity [16:02] schestowitz-TR while they drop bomb [16:02] matey so the social justice people are doing the same thing [16:02] schestowitz-TR or help drop bombs [16:02] matey its like when youre on facebook, but now your parents are, so its not cool anymore [16:02] matey so you leave [16:02] schestowitz-TR right [16:02] schestowitz-TR good analogy [16:02] matey the sjws are all about "ethics" now [16:02] schestowitz-TR it started ages ago [16:02] matey but the artifacts and damage done by the sjws are stll here [16:02] schestowitz-TR summarised in two words [16:02] schestowitz-TR by an actor [16:02] schestowitz-TR "respect microsoft" [16:03] schestowitz-TR that's SJW version 0.1 [16:03] matey jononononononononononononononononono [16:03] schestowitz-TR you start with the premise [16:03] schestowitz-TR crime is good [16:03] matey jononononononono cat ^ [16:03] schestowitz-TR and we need to reinforce the belief calling out the criminal is evil [16:03] schestowitz-TR openrespect -> respect microsoft [16:03] matey calling out criminals is like kicking a puppy [16:03] schestowitz-TR canonical partners with microsoft [16:03] schestowitz-TR matey: those are moral equivalents [16:03] schestowitz-TR one day you kick a puppy [16:03] matey its like the same thing! [16:04] schestowitz-TR next day you say,"fuck microsoft for hiring nazis" [16:04] matey microsoft and nazis are like puppies [16:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/02/15/cancel-canonical/ [16:04] TR Bot Cancel Canonical? | Techrights [16:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ [16:04] TR Bot Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights [16:04] schestowitz openrespect [16:04] schestowitz RESPECT microsoft [16:04] schestowitz they are OUR FRIENDS now [16:04] matey friiiiiiiends [16:04] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/04/08/jono-bacon-works-for-microsoft/ [16:04] TR Bot Jono Bacon Works for Microsoft | Techrights [16:05] schestowitz matey: like in manian mansion [16:05] schestowitz day of the tentacle [16:05] matey of course if you dont want to be friends with microsoft [16:05] matey you have options [16:05] matey if you dont want to be friends with microsoft [16:05] matey you dont have to go to libreplanet [16:05] schestowitz *maniac [16:06] schestowitz-TR wow, it's thurs already [16:06] schestowitz-TR felt like weds [16:06] schestowitz-TR or tue [16:06] schestowitz-TR maybe cause I did a tons of work ont he setup/office and libreplanet videos [16:06] matey short week [16:07] schestowitz-TR haha [16:07] schestowitz-TR one hour short [16:07] matey americans lost an hour a couple weeks ago and hae probably just adjusted by now [16:07] matey but they can reedem it in november or something [16:08] matey unless they pass a law to let the government keep it [16:08] matey a bit like the stone angels in doctor who [16:09] matey granted its only an hour, but its an hour for 300-400 million people so [16:09] matey definitely a nice buffet for stone angels [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 87.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 301.26 [16:11] *matey has quit (connection closed) [16:13] TR News Dr. William Liggett on Baby Steps to (Software) Freedom | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/william-liggett-libreplanet-talk/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/william-liggett-libreplanet-talk/ [16:13] TR Bot Dr. William Liggett on Baby Steps to (Software) Freedom | Techrights [16:14] TR News A guide to Linux for embedded applications Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163190 [16:14] TR Bot A guide to Linux for embedded applications | Tux Machines [16:14] TR News Debian vs. Ubuntu Linux: Which Distro Should You Choose? 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[16:48] TR News "The Documentation team is happy to announce the immediate availability of the Writer Guide 7.3." https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/03/30/writer-guide-7-3/ [16:48] TR Bot Writer Guide 7.3 - The Document Foundation Blog [16:48] psydruid Microsoft organises labour camps for puppies [16:48] psydruid those are called internships [16:49] TR News "As a simple reference I used my year-old post about Clang 11 building faster with PCH, where Calc'c Library_sc built in 4 minutes and 39 seconds." http://llunak.blogspot.com/2022/03/clang-14-faster-at-building-libreoffice.html [16:49] TR Bot llunak: Clang 14 faster at building LibreOffice [16:49] MinceR dogs work for microsoft? that explains some of their evilness [16:50] psydruid oh, internments [16:51] TR News Recent Contributions from Collabora to LibreOffice - Collabora Office and Collabora https://www.collaboraoffice.com/community/recent-contributions-from-collabora-to-libreoffice/ "Here are a few highlights of the last weeks work on behalf of our customers." [16:51] TR Bot Recent Contributions from Collabora to LibreOffice - Collabora Office and Collabora Online [16:54] MinceR https://insighthungary.444.hu/2022/03/31/opposition-votes-die-by-fire-v4-in-recess-russian-hackers-in-the-mfa-polls-favor-orban [16:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: 444.hu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://insighthungary.444.hu/2022/03/31/opposition-votes-die-by-fire-v4-in-recess-russian-hackers-in-the-mfa-polls-favor-orban [16:55] TR Bot Opposition votes die by fire, V4 in recess, Russian hackers in the MFA, polls favor Orbn - InsightHungary [16:55] MinceR fideath are cheating already [16:55] TR News LibreOffice: Documentation, Compiling With Clang, and Collaboras Work Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163196 [16:55] TR Bot LibreOffice: Documentation, Compiling With Clang, and Collabora's Work | Tux Machines [16:56] schestowitz-TR aka slaves [16:57] schestowitz-TR MinceR: put in box [16:57] schestowitz-TR the ballot always comes out the same [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 50.55 k/sec., IPFS upstream 123.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 386.25 [16:59] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/2203239 [16:59] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/tya7yqjblwo81.jpg created on 2022-03-23 02:52:29.820279 ● Mar 31 [17:00] -ben/Wallops-The ircpuzzles annual April Fool's Puzzle Competition will be starting at 17:00 UTC today in #ircpuzzles Come join in on the fun! 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[17:15] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:21] TR News The United Kingdom Might Already Have the Highest Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Since February 2021 (Before Mass Vaccination) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/31/end-of-march/ [17:21] TR Bot Blog Archive The United Kingdom Might Already Have the Highest Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Since February 2021 (Before Mass Vaccination) [17:25] TR News The patronising EPO management, such as Antnio Campinos who oppresses the Africans that his father fought to liberate, isnt talking about the strike and is instead imposing Microsoft Windows on everyone, even stakeholders; the EPO is just about as corrupt as Microsoft http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-and-colonialism/ [17:25] TR Bot EPO in Africa: Microsoft, Corruption, and Colonialism | Techrights [17:25] TR News Frenchman Campinos perpetuates a legacy of colonialism; if his father Jorge was still alive, Antnio would likely be yelled at http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/not-jorge/ [17:25] TR Bot [Meme] In Just a Few Years Antnio Campinos is Undoing Decades of His Fathers Legacy | Techrights [17:26] TR News EPO staff keeps warning about the collapse of patent quality at the EPO (its not even in compliance with the law; we gave many new examples this past weekend), but media is paid to say the exact opposite http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-cheating-and-bribing-media/ [17:26] TR Bot [Meme] Best in the World. At Cheating and Bribing Media. | Techrights [17:26] TR News Software freedom is the real social justice; dont be distracted by spin from the war machine http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/rage-against-the-system/ [17:26] TR Bot [Meme] Rage Against the Machine (Military-Industrial Complex) | Techrights [17:26] TR News "This talk is about a simple strategy to teachers others about free software, without the need for lengthy explanations of freedom vs. proprietary comparisons. http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/william-liggett-libreplanet-talk/ [17:26] TR Bot Dr. William Liggett on Baby Steps to (Software) Freedom | Techrights [17:28] TR News This is not progress, it's just more chaos https://www.maketecheasier.com/fedex-autonomous-delivery-air/ [17:28] TR Bot FedEx to Test Autonomous Cargo Delivery by Air - Make Tech Easier [17:28] TR News Delivery drones are based on technology already available like 30 years ago. So you know it's not true progress, it's just greed. [17:29] TR News Of course Australia would not rank UK and US. They probably outnumber the rest by far. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/russia_iran_and_saudi_arabia/ [17:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/russia_iran_and_saudi_arabia/ [17:29] TR Bot Russia ranks top for state-linked online misinformation The Register [17:31] *zedomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:31] TR News OUR misinformation is "well-meaning". THEIRS is "evil". But of course we also like to project this idea that theirs is false and ours is not. [17:32] TR News Because the West is consistently honest. "I did not have sex with that woman..." 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I nearly spat out the milk. https://blog.chromium.org/2022/03/what-to-expect-from-ps-testing.html [17:38] TR Bot Chromium Blog: What to Expect from Privacy Sandbox Testing [17:38] schestowitz-TR matey: I noticed that [17:39] schestowitz-TR it might be an adapted tlak [17:39] matey just saying that baby steps to freedom has been an open source theme for 20 years now [17:39] schestowitz-TR that he gave to students [17:39] matey definitely adapted [17:39] matey i was an open source guy first... so i know the schtick pretty well [17:39] schestowitz-TR ime, all in all the talk is still better than nothing [17:39] matey okay [17:39] schestowitz-TR they did manage to hide/obscure FSF for quite some time [17:39] schestowitz-TR that sort of changed [17:39] schestowitz-TR also, gnu "came back" [17:40] matey big quotes [17:40] schestowitz-TR I managed to even convince some news sites to start saying "gnu/linux" and they still do [17:40] schestowitz-TR so gnu re-emerged [17:40] schestowitz-TR even "free sofwtare" [17:40] matey what im saying is, everything is shifting to the "right" on this [17:40] schestowitz-TR many project use this term now [17:40] matey free software is shifting right to open source [17:40] schestowitz-TR they don't think "open source" means much anymore [17:40] schestowitz-TR it's like "liberal" in US [17:41] MinceR baby steps to dependence [17:41] matey ^ [17:41] matey baby steps to macos [17:41] schestowitz-TR baby steps to babytalk [17:41] schestowitz-TR "mainsoft' [17:41] matey i actually think its a balance, the problem is that open source doesnt think its about that [17:41] MinceR baby steps to baby minds [17:42] matey the metaphor ive used is "bridges" to free software [17:42] schestowitz-TR I had this argument with the new ED of OSI [17:42] schestowitz-TR he says [17:42] schestowitz-TR OSI's mission is different [17:42] schestowitz-TR from FSF [17:42] schestowitz-TR so he's the one drawing a line in the sand [17:42] schestowitz-TR as if to say, [17:42] schestowitz-TR we are not the same [17:42] schestowitz-TR different name, different thing [17:42] matey in 2018 19 or 20 i was talking about this bridge metaphor [17:42] schestowitz-TR and they STILL shill github [17:42] matey the bridge metaphor has three parts [17:43] matey the goal is to get across a moat (to freedom) [17:43] matey sometimes the last little bit of the bridge is gone-- if you make a small leap youre free [17:43] schestowitz-TR right [17:43] schestowitz-TR well, they can sod off [17:43] matey if you stay where you and wait for the last tiny snippet of bridge you might never get there [17:43] schestowitz-TR stefno can speak to his microwave [17:43] matey thats one part of the metaphor [17:43] schestowitz-TR while simon phipps texts his toilet bowl [17:43] schestowitz-TR good luck to them [17:44] schestowitz-TR enjoy this shit [17:44] matey the other part is what this guys talking about [17:44] matey theres nothing wrong with building bridges-- so people dont have to swim through the moat [17:44] matey bridges are okay-- bridges can help you get across faster or more easily [17:44] matey im okay with that! [17:44] MinceR does the OSI admit what their mission is? [17:44] matey the third part of the metaphor addresses what im complaining about [17:44] schestowitz-TR they tried to change it [17:44] schestowitz-TR eventually they did [17:44] schestowitz-TR but now how deb and bully wanted [17:44] matey if you build bridges longer and longer [17:45] schestowitz-TR *not how [17:45] matey and put safety rails on either side so people cant fall off (or get on in the middle) [17:45] matey then you HAVE to start farther back [17:45] matey you can just keep building the bridge back farther and farther [17:45] matey now its "meant" to help but its actually keeping you from getting there. [17:45] matey thats open source imo [17:45] matey the helpers that make you cross longer and longer bridges to get to freedom [17:46] matey the bridge isnt the problem-- it matters how and why its built [17:46] matey so this was my bridge metaphor and i think its a lot better than all these damned baby steps [17:46] matey because this guy is a little full of shit imo [17:46] matey maybe ill watch the rest of it later [17:47] matey at least he didnt sign the anti-rms letter and hes not using github so [17:47] matey points for that [17:47] matey hes still open source https://junktext.com/projects/ [17:47] TR Bot junktext.com [17:47] schestowitz-TR maybe old page? [17:47] schestowitz-TR i did use the term in the past [17:47] schestowitz-TR it was a lot less dirty 20 years ago [17:48] schestowitz-TR he uses AGPLv3 [17:48] matey he calls agpl3 open source software [17:48] schestowitz-TR "junktext LLC is following the model of fair use such as advocated by the EFF and similar to how the commercial publication, Ars Technica (operated by Cond Nast), mentions trademarked words or uses trademarked logos in their articles. Furthermore, the owner of junktext LLC is a member of the EFF and will forward any copyright violation claims to them for assistance." [17:48] schestowitz-TR "Copyright 2004 - 2022 " [17:49] schestowitz-TR It's a very old page [17:49] schestowitz-TR that's the year I started schestowitz.com [17:49] matey its up to date [17:49] matey - 2022 [17:49] schestowitz-TR and many of the pages there are pre-2004 [17:49] matey The purpose of my talk was to help explain a long-term strategy to get more people using and caring about Free Software (also called: Open Source Software) through a series of small baby steps. For instance, an easy way is to get as many people you know to use the Firefox web browser on their home computer and smartphone instead of Google Chrome. [17:49] schestowitz-TR don't assume he changes evertything [17:49] schestowitz-TR just the footer [17:49] kingoffrance would it be accurate to say open source is lucy and she keeps moving the football matey ? [17:49] matey maybe look at the quote [17:49] schestowitz-TR and maybe php spits out the 2022 [17:49] MinceR he's confusing two terms [17:49] matey would it be accurate to say open source is lucy and she keeps moving the football matey ? <- i dont know but it would be fair to say its as full of shit as lucy is [17:50] schestowitz-TR "At present, many people today actual use a lot of open source software (also called free software)," [17:50] kingoffrance :) [17:50] schestowitz-TR https://junktext.com/about [17:50] TR Bot junktext.com [17:50] schestowitz-TR links to https://www.fsf.org/ [17:50] TR Bot Front Page Free Software Foundation working together for free software [17:50] matey formerly libre openly sleazy software [17:50] matey links to https://www.fsf.org/ <- good [17:51] schestowitz-TR some people still have articles and videos priaisng gates [17:51] schestowitz-TR those did not age well [17:51] matey its worth noting that this isnt a "kiss the ring" kind of issue imo [17:51] schestowitz-TR even less so if an investigation is unsealed [17:51] matey some people still have articles and videos priaisng gates <- like the one you were critcising just today? [17:51] schestowitz-TR for hanging out with jeff to meet "lots of rich people" [17:51] matey well that was praising microsoft [17:51] matey close [17:51] matey its worth noting that this isnt a "kiss the ring" kind of issue imo [17:51] matey like [17:52] matey if people said "open source" then all they ever talked about was how to be more free... i doubt i would care [17:52] matey the only reason i make a stink is [17:52] matey usually when they say "open source" [17:52] schestowitz-TR ftr, I always knew what gates was [17:52] matey you know in hours, days or maybe weeks, theyre going to show you what they REALLY meant [17:52] schestowitz-TR I knew some inconsistent people on this matter [17:52] matey and its not as much about freedom [17:52] schestowitz-TR tho later went, "oh shit" [17:52] matey hey, in 2004, i was still open source [17:52] matey sure [17:52] schestowitz-TR the media mislead them, but gradually they realised it [17:53] matey listen, everybody gets LOTS of chances to get it right [17:53] matey this is a fucking OOOOOOOLD thing [17:53] matey its just that these days [17:53] matey the fsf is becoming MORE open sourcey [17:53] matey and i think its a bad sign [17:53] schestowitz-TR no, that's SFC [17:53] matey so the more of this i see, the more of a stink i make [17:53] schestowitz-TR and LF was always proprietary [17:53] schestowitz-TR LF is not even open source [17:53] matey no, that's SFC <- cause it cant be both [17:53] matey its the whole movement is shifting open [17:53] schestowitz-TR SFC was evicted [17:54] matey even when they call it free software [17:54] schestowitz-TR and then bkuhn got a goodbye gift [17:54] matey they are talking about open source now [17:54] schestowitz-TR they then had another run at him [17:54] matey theyre talking the talk now, but not walking the walk [17:54] schestowitz-TR and it failed [17:54] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@49wru8thva7vu.irc) has joined #techrights [17:54] matey even the tuxmachines slogan is obsolete [17:54] matey im not even blaming tm for this-- i could, im saying its not tm [17:54] schestowitz-TR do you waddle the waddle? [17:54] matey yeah [17:54] matey nobody waddles the waddle anymore. [17:54] schestowitz-TR how so? [17:55] schestowitz-TR it still walks the walk [17:55] matey this is what i think. [17:55] matey nah [17:55] matey a few might [17:55] matey listen, all this week [17:55] matey ive been looking up LOADS of gnu projects [17:55] matey the ones that ARENT github based (its more than you think) [17:55] matey theres more gnuhub than you say [17:55] matey but thats not the point [17:55] matey ive been focused on the ones that ARENT on github [17:56] matey and the habits of their ADMINS (not even the other developers, just the top ones) [17:56] matey and you know what [17:56] matey most gnu project admins trust microsoft [17:56] matey with personal projects [17:56] schestowitz-TR trust TRUST? [17:56] matey trust implied. [17:56] schestowitz-TR or just have some mirror? [17:57] matey im talking currently or (VERY) recently active [17:57] schestowitz-TR even Microsoft does not trust Microsoft [17:57] schestowitz-TR with loads of things [17:57] matey nor should they [17:57] matey i think most softies assume their employer isnt you know, sheltering some guy at bills mansion that... etc [17:57] schestowitz-TR github is a funded catastrophe [17:57] schestowitz-TR operation at a loss [17:57] matey or maybe they dont care, but i bet they would [17:57] schestowitz-TR throwing bribes at people [17:57] schestowitz-TR started ahead in the lane [17:57] schestowitz-TR because they ambushed and bought a company [17:58] matey but what i mean is [17:58] matey behind all this talk of freedom [17:58] matey is a buttload of apathy [17:58] schestowitz-TR it's not a codeplex that loses far more money than before [17:58] schestowitz-TR I have a source who says [17:58] schestowitz-TR the management is being thrown out [17:58] schestowitz-TR for faililing at the objective [17:58] schestowitz-TR which is vertical integration with azure [17:58] schestowitz-TR microsoft is still trying to find a way to make a profit there [17:58] schestowitz-TR like gulag with gulagtube [17:58] matey when rms promotes freedom, the one thing hes got that everyone knows (or (denies) hes got [17:58] schestowitz-TR github NEVER found a ways [17:58] matey is integrity [17:59] schestowitz-TR same for Twitter and for gitLAB [17:59] schestowitz-TR and for Azure... and Gulag Clown [17:59] matey github NEVER found a ways <- the github model is the walmart model. its doing exactly what they wanted [17:59] matey you think everything has to make money [17:59] matey its LOBBYING [17:59] matey lobbying can suck up your budget and still be worth it ● Mar 31 [18:00] matey they dont have to make money on github [18:00] schestowitz-TR not directly [18:00] matey it hurts their biggest competitors [18:00] matey it saves them money they would spend buying other companies [18:00] matey so it makes money the same way installing effiicent lighting or buying a new airconditioner makes money [18:01] matey air conditioners get so ineffiicent, so fast, replacing an old one basically pays for itself [18:01] matey in savings [18:01] matey some of that is probably hype [18:01] schestowitz-TR if made in some cheap labour country [18:01] matey but installing efficient lighting gives real savings [18:01] matey and pays for itself if you do it right [18:01] matey you think of github as only making money in traditional terms [18:01] schestowitz-TR insulation/double glazing [18:02] matey its an investment in more than just drawing funds [18:02] matey its an investment in control [18:02] matey how much money do they spend buying competitors and then axing them? [18:02] matey its part of the way theyve done business for decades [18:02] TR News "In the effort of adopting digital policies aligned with people's fundamental rights, the European Parliament is in the process of finding a position on the legal framework for the development and use of AI technologies." https://fsfe.org/news/2022/news-20220330-01.en.html [18:02] TR Bot Artificial Intelligence (AI) Act: Free Software is key! - FSFE [18:03] matey with github its like they bought 100 companies in one-- 500 companies [18:03] matey they bought google! [18:03] matey not all of it [18:03] matey they didnt buy all of nokia eithe [18:03] matey but nokia cant touch them now-- thats the point [18:03] matey hurting your competition is the same as making more money, except its worth more to them for longer [18:03] matey this is appalling but its how they do things [18:03] TR News "In this tutorial well cover how to install GNOME on a machine running a RHEL-based distro, such as Rocky Linux, AlmaLinux, CentOS, Fedora, and others." https://peppe8o.com/private-learning-portal-with-moodle-in-your-raspberry-pi/ [18:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: peppe8o.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/private-learning-portal-with-moodle-in-your-raspberry-pi/ [18:04] TR Bot Private Learning Portal With Moodle in your Raspberry PI [18:04] matey you have to factor these things in when you figure out how much they really "blew" on github [18:04] matey what did they actually want. a hosting business? no. [18:04] TR News "In this article, Ill show you how to create your personal learning portal with Moodle on a Raspberry PI single board computer." https://peppe8o.com/private-learning-portal-with-moodle-in-your-raspberry-pi/ [18:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: peppe8o.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/private-learning-portal-with-moodle-in-your-raspberry-pi/ [18:04] matey they probably didnt even care about that when they did codeplex [18:04] matey they just wanted control [18:05] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/11/04/github-beginning-of-the-end/ [18:05] TR Bot The Beginning of the End of the GitHub Near-Monopoly and Its Demise to CodePlex Status (a Slow-Motion Train Wreck) | Techrights [18:05] matey +they make most of their money off the developer partnerships right? [18:05] matey http://techrights.org/2021/11/04/github-beginning-of-the-end/ <- not-even-the-predlude-to-the-beginning [18:06] matey im sure the truth is somewhere between how you call it and how mjg does [18:06] matey you think theyre done [18:06] MinceR "Today's the first day of the end of your lives." [18:06] matey whats the one rimmer wanted to make into a sign? [18:07] matey in the first red dwarf book [18:07] MinceR \_()_/ [18:07] MinceR the quote is from Postal2 [18:08] matey chris barrie worked for spitting image doing voiceovers [18:08] matey didnt know that [18:08] schestowitz-TR I think we should be careful not to make false assuptions about the relative share of github and git [18:09] schestowitz-TR many stioll pass tarballs around [18:09] schestowitz-TR and many are under the radar [18:09] mjg59_ matey: Microsoft needs developers, otherwise nobody writes interesting stuff for WIndows [18:09] schestowitz-TR github is like skype [18:09] schestowitz-TR its monopoly is fast eroding [18:09] mjg59_ matey: And the past 20 years saw a lot of developers migrate to MacOS as development targets moved from the desktop to the web instead, and your local OS made less difference [18:10] mjg59_ So Microsoft will do basically anything to encourage developers to be part of their ecosystem [18:10] matey and he was on blackadder the third [18:10] schestowitz-TR github already had several brain drain crises [18:10] schestowitz-TR and nowadays massive outages too [18:11] matey I think we should be careful not to make false assuptions about the relative share of github and git <- i think YOU should, since ive done 80% of the research [18:11] matey many stioll pass tarballs around <- yes, im closer to being able to count those than you are [18:11] matey ive been through tensd of thousands of projects in the fsd [18:12] matey look, if you want to beat your chest and say DEWEY DEFEATS GITHUB you can do whatever you want [18:12] matey its your blog [18:12] schestowitz-TR mSM and microsoft-bribed 'analysts' like redmonk base 'research' on shithub data [18:12] schestowitz-TR they're not alone [18:12] matey but if you want to be right, id focus less on chestbeating and come back to reality [18:12] schestowitz-TR I've complained about this for years [18:13] schestowitz-TR as if you don't count unless or until Microsoft is your boss [18:13] matey mSM and microsoft-bribed 'analysts' like redmonk base 'research' on shithub data <- i base information about github on github [18:13] matey then i compare it to everything else. [18:13] schestowitz-TR github is NOT as important as the media puts it [18:13] schestowitz-TR they bribe people, bribe media [18:13] matey i dont care what the media says about it [18:13] matey i do my own research [18:13] schestowitz-TR and so we are seeing a distorted view os the market [18:13] matey months at a time. [18:13] matey mmhmm [18:13] matey so we are seeing a distorted view <- yes we are [18:14] schestowitz-TR right [18:14] matey Open Source Won! [18:14] matey its funny when they say it [18:14] matey its stupid when "we" say it [18:14] schestowitz-TR github was becoming de facto standard [18:14] schestowitz-TR then microsoft touched it [18:14] schestowitz-TR after it has ambushed its growth since 2014 [18:14] schestowitz-TR and now it's like skype [18:14] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22032927 [18:15] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/apib6aemitp81.jpg created on 2022-03-29 11:28:46.704205 [18:15] schestowitz-TR over time the share tapers off [18:15] schestowitz-TR people find new tools [18:15] matey github was becoming de facto standard <- then microsoft touched it <- then python and perl and npm joined [18:15] schestowitz-TR and github is not "cool" anymore [18:15] matey yes i do timeline stuff too [18:15] MinceR it's funny because "open source" can't win [18:15] matey its not cool but it has more monopoly than it did a few weeks after the purchase [18:15] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ [18:15] TR Bot Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights [18:15] MinceR if "open source" were to "win", proprietary software would win and "open source" would go away [18:15] schestowitz their OWN data ^^ [18:16] matey it's funny because "open source" can't win <- it depends what theyre trying to win-- like the rocky movie where he was supposed to throw the fight [18:16] MinceR :> [18:16] matey open source is supposed to throw the fight-- thats how it "wins" [18:16] MinceR throwing the fight isn't winning, though [18:16] matey no its losing [18:16] matey but they cry all the way to the bank [18:16] MinceR "open source" is supposed to kill free software and then die [18:16] matey "open source" is supposed to kill free software and then die <- such nice friends-- better allies [18:17] matey so open source wins sort of like dr. zoidberg [18:17] matey first it "wins" [18:17] matey then it floats dead in a beach full of crustacean carcasses [18:18] matey but since the beach is wet and software hates being damp [18:18] matey github will do [18:18] matey come on in! the servers are fine! [18:18] matey we hope youll end your development lifecycle with us! [18:19] matey meanwhile microsoft looks at this mess and panics! [18:19] matey OH NO! [18:19] matey we arent making money from this-- AND ALL OUR COMPETITORS ARE DYING! [18:19] schestowitz-TR zoidberg has tentacles [18:19] schestowitz-TR like shithub [18:19] matey :D AND ALL OUR COMPETITORS ARE DYING :D [18:19] matey zoidberg has tentacles <- not much of a futurama fan i guess [18:20] matey but if youre just comparing him to octocat, sure [18:20] schestowitz-TR yeah [18:20] schestowitz-TR btw [18:20] matey anyway theres only one way to be sure [18:20] schestowitz-TR assuming you dislike many projects on shithub [18:21] schestowitz-TR because "open source" [18:21] matey just like we wont know if the april talk is old genric stuff or not until we see it [18:21] schestowitz-TR then when the whole thing drowns [18:21] schestowitz-TR the better projects will be OK [18:21] schestowitz-TR sellouts will perish [18:21] schestowitz-TR like channels that outsourced to gulagtube [18:21] schestowitz-TR rt et al [18:21] schestowitz-TR or to vimeo [18:21] matey assuming you dislike many projects on shithub because "open source" <- this is obviously not the process i use [18:21] matey openbsd is also "open source" [18:21] schestowitz-TR openbsd does not use shithub [18:21] schestowitz-TR it has other issues [18:22] *bnchs (~bnchs@jzwma9vmr9bde.irc) has joined #techrights [18:22] bnchs how about this [18:22] matey openbsd doing "open source" reminds me more of gnu when it USED TO do "free software" than it does NOW when it does "free software" [18:22] bnchs alternative frontend for github [18:22] matey so that kind of "open source" while EXTREMELY rare [18:22] matey isnt the sort i worry about [18:23] matey de raadt for the most part isnt full of shit [18:23] matey though the times he has been-- ive held those against him for many years at a time [18:23] matey many many years [18:23] matey and usually it was something fairly small really [18:23] matey like being petty about stallman picking on them somewhat unfairly [18:24] matey and me only knowing the stallman side of the story [18:24] matey but i still talk about free software because open source is bullshit [18:25] matey just like free software is bullshit when you scratch the surface and find open source under it [18:25] matey if you scratch the surface of openbsd, i swear [18:25] matey its free software under that [18:25] matey thats what happens when you build things on integrity [18:25] activelow "open source" is a technical term, "free software" is a political one [18:26] matey open source is a propaganda term, free software is a philosophical one <- kingoffrance probably has valid objections here [18:26] activelow and both are chated with [18:26] matey and both are chated with <- yes [18:26] activelow *cheated [18:26] matey i knew what you meant [18:28] schestowitz-TR openbsd is not "open source" [18:28] schestowitz-TR openbsd predates "open source" [18:28] activelow the modality of "open source" with regards to "free software" is the necessity of source-code publicly available; free software must be opensource, however open-source isn't the only criteria, it is insufficient to qualify any software as free [18:28] schestowitz-TR in the OSINT context not [18:28] schestowitz-TR but in the OSI sense [18:29] schestowitz-TR and the project is called openbsd [18:29] matey openbsd predates "open source" <- only according to revisionist history [18:29] schestowitz-TR so it makes sense for them to say "open" something [18:29] schestowitz-TR OSI is just a car accident [18:29] matey granted that revisionist history comes from osi [18:29] schestowitz-TR we need to sweep it aside now [18:29] schestowitz-TR and carry on driving [18:29] matey openbsd was only a couple years ahead of osi [18:29] schestowitz-TR right [18:29] matey go read the debian-private archives again [18:29] matey because open source is talked about there [18:29] schestowitz-TR i did [18:29] matey before 1998 i think [18:29] schestowitz-TR hence i say it [18:30] schestowitz-TR debian private is 96-17 iirc [18:30] matey either way, the term was already in use [18:30] kingoffrance "open source is a propaganda term, free software is a philosophical one" <-- legal, lawful, subjective, objective. no, no quibble, that makes sense :D [18:30] schestowitz-TR and they also say open hardware [18:30] matey 96 is the year openbsd started i think [18:30] kingoffrance the trick is the "lawful" quibble about words because they are important, the "legal" is loose because nothing really matters, so they appear 180 [18:31] kingoffrance so they superficially appear as opposite of what internally they are IMO lol [18:31] schestowitz-TR fwiw, if i can interject, epo management is a lot like microsof [18:31] schestowitz-TR they pretend to be big, they break the law all the time, they pretend to be loved when everyone hates them [18:32] schestowitz-TR osi became like the epo's yellow union [18:32] matey so the slides of this libreplanet guy [18:32] matey basically present open source to the world all over again [18:33] matey free software is for nerds, we need a different approach that puts freedom off in the distant future [18:33] matey welcome to 1998 [18:33] kingoffrance i dont disagree with activelow "political" so much as...they was "open source" catchphrase. but now with everything "social" everything is "political" so its not really fashionable anymore [18:33] matey ill tell you what hes not a dr of: history [18:33] schestowitz-TR good point [18:33] kingoffrance *that was an [18:33] kingoffrance *catchphrase against FS [18:33] schestowitz-TR let me think how we can better market software freedom [18:33] matey the whole talk is presenting open source as if it hasnt been going on for the past 20 years [18:34] schestowitz-TR in light of "modern" challenges like toilet bowls with apps for them... and sensors [18:34] matey and it even uses examples that have used this philosophy to keep us going in circles [18:34] activelow the worst misnomer, with both technical and political terms, is the artificial distinction of free software from free hardware [18:34] matey so this guy is a dr, giving a talk based on a 20-year circular argument. [18:34] kingoffrance yeah, i agree 100% with activelow as well [18:34] matey the worst misnomer, with both technical and political terms, is the artificial distinction of free software from free hardware <- haha, i dont entirely agree but i like the angle anyway [18:34] *schestowitz-TR thinks just reposting many libreplanet talk can contribute positively to awareness [18:34] matey i disagree on technical grounds [18:35] kingoffrance software just volatized simulation of hardware ;d [18:35] kingoffrance *is just [18:35] matey ACTION thinks just reposting many libreplanet talk can contribute positively to awareness <- thinks that open source awareness does for the public what fox news does for political awareness [18:35] kingoffrance same thing in different stages/forms [18:35] schestowitz-TR activelow: I think it's about scarcity [18:35] matey same thing in different stages/forms <- open /free or sw/hw? [18:35] kingoffrance woz said old arcade games were just circuit boards. software just lets you avoid soldering to make an "update" [18:35] schestowitz-TR though you can share the designs freely [18:35] schestowitz-TR making them will cost money [18:35] bnchs "in light of "modern" challenges like toilet bowls with apps for them" [18:36] bnchs russian IP detected, disabling toilet [18:36] matey woz said old arcade games were just circuit boards. software just lets you avoid soldering to make an "update" <- so do flash bios [18:36] kingoffrance yep [18:36] matey russian IP detected, disabling toilet <- protest plumbing! [18:36] schestowitz-TR bnchs: oh, shit [18:36] matey protestware is too much like drm on a bad day [18:37] bnchs protestware, alias for regionist malware [18:37] bnchs coined by brandon miller [18:37] matey when doctorow talked about drm in "rip a remix manifesto" (by brett gaylor who later went to work for crapzilla) he said drm was like the "urinary tract infection model of software distribution" [18:37] schestowitz-TR ours is "protest" [18:37] schestowitz-TR theirs is "malware" [18:37] matey "every feature comes in painful slow spurting drip" [18:37] schestowitz-TR [17:31] OUR misinformation is "well-meaning". THEIRS is "evil". But of course we also like to project this idea that theirs is false and ours is not. [18:37] schestowitz-TR [17:32] Because the West is consistently honest. "I did not have sex with that woman..." [18:37] schestowitz-TR [17:32] This study on misinformation is itself misinformation. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/russia_iran_and_saudi_arabia/ [18:37] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/russia_iran_and_saudi_arabia/ [18:37] TR Bot Russia ranks top for state-linked online misinformation The Register [18:38] schestowitz-TR [17:29] Of course Australia would not rank UK and US. They probably outnumber the rest by far. [18:38] matey but the way drm works now is basically 1. authentication 2. failure / fuck you 3. buy more drm shit [18:38] bnchs yes [18:38] matey and protestware is basically 1 & 2 from that [18:38] schestowitz-TR russia passed new waivers [18:38] bnchs but this is a drm you didnt agree on [18:38] schestowitz-TR russians will benefit from that [18:38] schestowitz-TR the media does not say that [18:39] schestowitz-TR they may use the exact same stuff [18:39] schestowitz-TR but pay NOTHING to the West [18:39] schestowitz-TR how the West benefits is beyond me [18:39] matey but this is a drm you didnt agree on <- so its also like ransomware [18:39] schestowitz-TR they just lost customers [18:39] bnchs smart toilets have better ideas like microsoft [18:39] matey but ive compared drm to ransomware [18:39] matey they overlap like 80-90% [18:39] bnchs they can bribe real estates to put their smart toilet [18:39] schestowitz-TR yes [18:39] bnchs to install their smart toilets [18:39] schestowitz-TR they go for landlords [18:39] bnchs market it as a good thing [18:40] schestowitz-TR and try to compel them to subject tenants to abuse [18:40] schestowitz-TR as part of the contract [18:40] schestowitz-TR cctv, microphones, you name it [18:40] schestowitz-TR or south korea, in hotels... [18:40] matey russia: what this town needs is "strong leadership" [18:40] bnchs its basically like OEM [18:40] bnchs the universal microsoft plan [18:40] matey protestware on lotus toilets: what this town needs is an enema! [18:41] kingoffrance whether same org should be trying to push both free software and hardware, i dont know on that. they are both equally important IMO [18:41] matey whether same org should be trying to push both free software and hardware <- thing is, fsf is going to do free hw anyway [18:41] schestowitz-TR the main difference is the copy of copies aspect [18:41] matey but just like it did with free culture, its going to get free hw WRONG [18:41] schestowitz-TR I can deploy a million copy of a program, but not without hardware [18:42] bnchs protestware on lotus toilets: gives russians an orgasm [18:42] schestowitz-TR and I cannot make hardware out of thin air [18:42] matey and just like with free culture [18:42] matey the cost of [18:42] schestowitz-TR so FSF tackles the simpler task first [18:42] bnchs question if they're toiletsexual [18:42] matey and I cannot make hardware out of thin air <- tell me how to make software out of thin air then [18:42] kingoffrance its called cloud [18:42] schestowitz-TR there the scarcity is strictly aritificial [18:42] kingoffrance and...its gone! [18:42] schestowitz-TR matey: it exists [18:42] schestowitz-TR you copy it [18:42] bnchs have you ever seen a toilet that blasts water into your ass [18:42] matey you need equipment and electricity [18:43] schestowitz-TR cannot copy hardware without some star trek magic [18:43] matey you may not need raw materials but the electricity certainly does [18:43] matey so does the equipment you use to make software [18:43] schestowitz-TR you can use pen and paper [18:43] schestowitz-TR it's slower [18:43] schestowitz-TR and you need to east [18:43] schestowitz-TR that can take a while... [18:43] schestowitz-TR *eat [18:44] schestowitz-TR [18:43] so does the equipment you use to make software [18:44] matey you can make hardware out of pen and paper too, but it will be about as useful as the software you made on pen and paper [18:44] schestowitz-TR you need to make the software just once [18:44] schestowitz-TR with hardware, the design [18:44] matey and i dont mean draw it-- i mean you can make working hardware out of pen and paper [18:44] schestowitz-TR but then you need lots of raw material and manufacturing [18:44] schestowitz-TR and repairs are less predictable [18:45] schestowitz-TR matey: you can run the algos without a computer [18:45] schestowitz-TR but it's very slow [18:45] matey you can build a working computer with paper and a pen [18:45] matey but that too is very slow [18:45] schestowitz-TR no [18:45] matey yes! [18:45] schestowitz-TR that computer would need power source [18:45] schestowitz-TR so you don't solve the issue [18:45] schestowitz-TR humans need food [18:46] schestowitz-TR and can write out the processing [18:46] *zedomati1 (~zedomatic@pzeavskfbwhvk.irc) has joined #techrights [18:46] matey /me makes a crank out of paper [18:46] matey behold a power source [18:46] matey humans need food <- what does that have to do with computing [18:46] schestowitz-TR humans are also processors [18:46] schestowitz-TR but they cannot have the same clock speeds [18:46] bnchs make a generator that gets energy from food? [18:46] schestowitz-TR like 64-bit-wide instruction setse [18:46] schestowitz-TR too muc for the brain [18:47] matey make a generator that gets energy from food? <- then connect it to the smart toilet [18:47] schestowitz-TR and at 400MHz, or 4000 [18:47] *psydruid wonders if anyone else is getting spammed GOG "reduction" codes [18:47] matey ACTION wonders if anyone else is getting spammed GOG "reduction" codes <- not unless roys bot is doing it [18:47] schestowitz-TR Good Ol Games? [18:47] psydruid they must be desperate to get more customers [18:47] matey but honestly i think even it has higher standards than that [18:47] *zedomatic has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:47] schestowitz-TR maybe their Ukraine politics aren't paying off [18:47] psydruid yes [18:47] schestowitz-TR and now they need extra sales [18:48] schestowitz-TR iirc, they banned belarus too [18:48] schestowitz-TR and the ordinary belarus citizen is like wtf do you want from ME? [18:48] schestowitz-TR they are doing BDS, but b is belarus [18:48] matey have you ever seen a toilet that blasts water into your ass <- the smart toilet you posted about blasts water onto you [18:48] psydruid I've only ever "bought" free games from them to test them on WINE [18:48] bnchs yes [18:48] matey they make a toilet with a "smart bidet" built in [18:48] bnchs but have you seen an instance [18:49] bnchs where the water blaster gives the person an orgasm? [18:49] matey i used to date someone who worked for someone who owned one. [18:49] schestowitz-TR "smart water" [18:49] schestowitz-TR the water has wifi in it! [18:49] matey where the water blaster gives the person an orgasm? <- yes [18:49] *zedomatic (~zedomatic@haw8n4b42f5e6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:49] schestowitz-TR Smart Prostate(TM) [18:50] bnchs it will be used for the protestware [18:50] schestowitz-TR put bluetooth on that ProstateWARE [18:50] bnchs you can call russians toiletsexual [18:50] schestowitz-TR apple will detectProstate cancer early [18:50] *zedomati1 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:50] schestowitz-TR with its ProstateWARE)TM) [18:51] matey so the point of open source is to conflat free software with open source [18:51] schestowitz-TR but apple will use a better marketing term [18:51] matey at 37:00 in the libreplanet talk [18:51] schestowitz-TR something with "i" [18:51] schestowitz-TR or "apple" [18:51] bnchs iProstate [18:51] matey he literally says not to correct use of open source [18:51] matey but to say its ALSO CALLED free software [18:51] matey dont correct open source! [18:51] schestowitz-TR and brandon will replace the prostates with hearts [18:51] matey im telling you [18:51] matey these people keep making my predictions come true [18:51] matey id rather be wrong [18:52] matey please make me wrong... [18:52] matey they keep making me right [18:52] schestowitz-TR the speaker? [18:52] matey he says a "strong community" wont correct use of "open source" [18:52] bnchs if brandon's ass doesnt overflow with hearts in prison [18:52] schestowitz-TR I think you should be harsher on OSI speaker [18:52] schestowitz-TR for we risk alienating another person with FSF shirt [18:52] schestowitz-TR you loathed what Dereke taylor saida [18:52] schestowitz-TR dnd wrote him off [18:53] schestowitz-TR since then he has said nothing positive about Microsoft [18:53] matey you loathed what Dereke taylor said <- do you want me to quote where you had IDENTICAL CONCERNS about dt in a side channel [18:53] matey before spending months rewriting history about what i said [18:53] schestowitz-TR he said about Microsoft, [18:53] schestowitz-TR something along the lines of, [18:53] schestowitz-TR "I'm starting to change my mind" [18:53] schestowitz-TR this was in relation ro edge [18:54] schestowitz-TR and that put us both off [18:54] schestowitz-TR for me a strike one [18:54] schestowitz-TR I think you escalated to third, faster... [18:54] schestowitz-TR I wrote off SJVN [18:54] schestowitz-TR and Schneier [18:54] schestowitz-TR but only after years of BS [18:54] matey youre pulling the same crap as the talk right now [18:54] schestowitz-TR FOSSForce improved somewhat [18:54] matey saying it will alienate him if we point out hes wrong [18:54] schestowitz-TR some people can change a bit [18:55] schestowitz-TR no, [18:55] matey some people can cahnge a bit <- like phipps? [18:55] schestowitz-TR that's not what I said [18:55] matey wait for the screencap [18:55] schestowitz-TR no, with phipps I was on the fence [18:55] schestowitz-TR then all hell broke lose when microsoft "joined" OSI [18:55] schestowitz-TR and he was insulted by what I had said [18:56] schestowitz-TR SJVN was off the books the moment he covered up for bill and "rich people"| [18:56] schestowitz-TR by defaming RMS [18:56] schestowitz-TR and not even bothering to correct [18:56] matey https://i.ibb.co/BBWJzvD/ffs.jpg <- people are paying to go to libreplaent to hear classic osi propaganda [18:57] schestowitz-TR I see [18:57] matey hes saying a strong community will conflate, rather than correct the use of "open source" to describe free sw [18:57] schestowitz-TR I think he suggestion is A LOT less bad that what I head [18:57] schestowitz-TR *hear [18:57] matey compare that to what johnsu said about linuxworld in 2008 [18:57] schestowitz-TR and I'd not condemn him for at least introducing people to the new (GNU) term.. the old/original one [18:57] schestowitz-TR he points them at another direction [18:57] schestowitz-TR like you and I [18:57] schestowitz-TR who said open source 17 years ago [18:58] schestowitz-TR the term back then was nowhere as toxic [18:58] matey "It seems that some words are hard to say, and some would have us give in to their limiting Orwellian speak. Well tough, it's the Free Software Movement; listen up, because you're in Freedom's home town. " https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-responds-to-linuxworld-in-boston [18:58] TR Bot FSF Responds to LinuxWorld in Boston Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [18:58] schestowitz-TR so we need to capture the "open source" people [18:58] matey "We had big smiles on our faces at the FSF office recently, when journalists called to ask for our reaction to the LinuxWorld announcement, that they were coming to Boston in part because it was the birthplace and headquarters of the Free Software Foundation---which launched the Open Source Movement?" [18:58] schestowitz-TR an d send them to learn the real chronology [18:58] schestowitz-TR and what freedom means [18:58] matey this is just libreplanet going backwards [18:58] schestowitz-TR as they didn't hear about that side of it [18:59] matey but its never just an isolated incidenct [18:59] matey this is part of a 7-year pattern of the fsf in regression [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 72.51 average k/sec., average swarm size 408.36 [18:59] matey with no end in sight [18:59] matey eveyrbody knows it [18:59] matey sometimes even you know it [18:59] matey but sometimes you prefer to do-- whatever this is [18:59] schestowitz-TR LinuxWorld has been defunct for over a decade [18:59] matey flipflopping [18:59] schestowitz-TR it was IDG iirc [18:59] matey LinuxWorld has been defunct for over a decade <- changing the subject [18:59] matey "we move on" ● Mar 31 [19:00] schestowitz-TR LinuxWorld had other "Worlds" [19:00] matey yeah, in circles [19:00] schestowitz-TR their purpose was to shoehorn their sponsors [19:00] matey LinuxWorld had other "Worlds" i think this msut be one of them [19:00] matey their purpose was to shoehorn their sponsor <- open source does that well [19:00] schestowitz-TR yeah [19:00] schestowitz-TR they are in this together [19:00] matey its free software + crap [19:00] matey or gnu/crap or gnu+crap [19:00] matey or as i like to call it now, crap [19:01] matey at least the fsf used to stand for something [19:01] matey now it stands for open source coming in to stand for nothing [19:01] TR News Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released with GNOME 42 Desktop, Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163197 [19:01] TR Bot Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta Released with GNOME 42 Desktop, Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS | Tux Machines [19:01] schestowitz-TR so now you are upset that [19:01] matey no [19:01] matey i love being lied to [19:01] schestowitz-TR fsf is not free-friendly enough? [19:02] matey everybody does [19:02] schestowitz-TR and that we need to go further than FSF, or something roughly along those lines? [19:02] matey fsf is not free-friendly enough? <- do you want to pretend im the only person here who realises the fsf is full of crap now? [19:02] activelow schestowitz-TR: "free software" is the misnomer, to separate it from free hardware, which is artificial, political, and not plausible to do - except for, political reasons, to do it [19:02] matey and that we need to go further than FSF <- actually id LOVE it if the fsf just stuck to the principles they had before. [19:02] activelow reminder: 1984 semiconductor protection act [19:03] schestowitz-TR matey: it's more so now than years ago [19:03] matey heh [19:03] activelow since when USA, systematically, strategically, organized sabotage and an embargo against the world economy [19:03] schestowitz-TR this year it did not award mr, mono [19:03] schestowitz-TR or mr. 'secure' boot [19:03] schestowitz-TR or debsoftr [19:03] matey well he already won [19:03] matey who did win this year? [19:03] schestowitz-TR check [19:03] matey (spoiler alert, github won) [19:04] schestowitz-TR that's cynical [19:04] activelow and with the misnomer of "free software" USA business entities could prevail the facade of "freedom", free trade, compliance with world trade regulations etc. [19:04] matey cant think of any reason id be cynical at this point [19:04] matey ill check today [19:04] matey im too busy to check this minute [19:04] schestowitz-TR go for it [19:04] schestowitz-TR [11:18] FSF Staff at LibrePlanet Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163181 [19:04] TR Bot FSF Staff at LibrePlanet | Tux Machines [19:05] activelow a facade, in parallel to "five eyes" industrial espionage, most severe anti-trust violations [19:05] schestowitz-TR those 'meta' talks won't be in techrights [19:05] schestowitz-TR no real substance [19:05] schestowitz-TR it reminds me of medal ceremonies [19:05] schestowitz-TR of the rich [19:05] schestowitz-TR mr. billion dollars [19:06] activelow "free software" is good, however, it serves as a strategic utility, to monopolize USA interests, and their trade war [19:06] schestowitz-TR will give a "lifetime achievement" award to mrs. magnate [19:06] schestowitz-TR and the plutocrats int he audience, wearing tuxedos, clap clap clap [19:06] matey This year's recipients of the awards are Paul Eggert, Protesilaos Stavrou, and SecuRepairs [19:06] schestowitz-TR "she must be a very important person... did lots of HARD work' [19:06] matey i know eggert is a gnu developer [19:06] schestowitz-TR matey: beyond software [19:06] matey i think hes red hat but im checking [19:06] schestowitz-TR like they did OSM before [19:07] schestowitz-TR free data [19:07] schestowitz-TR no, [19:07] schestowitz-TR red hat has a politician type [19:07] schestowitz-TR eggart iirc [19:08] TR News Intel pretends the vaccines have solved everything (they did not; see UK numbers) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/intel_covid_return_to_work/ [19:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/intel_covid_return_to_work/ [19:08] activelow the 1984 semiconductor protection act, is one explanation, why almost all coprorations are monopolized and centralized in Silicon Valley aka. RAND Corp. US Military, to pull the strings from there [19:08] matey muckrack.com/paul-eggert/articles [19:08] matey Paul Eggert As seen in: The Conversation, Techrights.org [19:08] TR Bot ( status 530 @ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/intel_covid_return_to_work/ ) [19:08] matey Paul Eggert is a professor in the Computer Science department at University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) [19:10] schestowitz-TR there is a guy in redhat, a manager, with a similar surname [19:10] matey 165 contributions in the last year <- github won. maybe they use # contributions to figure out who should win :) [19:10] schestowitz-TR and not a Paul [19:10] matey now im being cynical. [19:10] schestowitz-TR you are being pedantic [19:10] schestowitz-TR which is fine [19:10] matey there is a guy in redhat, a manager, with a similar surname <- yeah im getting nothing on eggert red hat [19:10] schestowitz-TR but then again both new additions to fsf board had shithub accounts [19:10] matey you are being pedantic <- thank you [19:10] matey rms is pedantic [19:10] matey and most of the people who fall short of him are not [19:11] matey of course by itself, being pedantic is awful [19:11] matey when theres nothing behind it. if you put it to a good use though... it can be wonderful [19:11] matey like mae west said [19:11] schestowitz-TR try eggart [19:11] matey im only interested in the winners right now [19:12] matey but i dont have time at this moment to look them up further [19:12] matey im sure i can get to that today [19:12] matey at any rate, i hope the fsf can get something right sometimes [19:12] schestowitz-TR david I think] [19:12] matey i dont think eggert is a bad person [19:12] matey hes a gnu developer [19:12] matey probably one of the good ones [19:12] matey they gave lessig a free sw award too [19:12] matey and oliva [19:13] matey im still a fan of lessig [19:13] matey after all these years [19:13] matey cc, no. lessig, yes. the worst thing about cc is theyre nothing like the founder [19:13] matey similar to the fsf. [19:13] matey but cc falls even further from the tree [19:14] bnchs by-nd? [19:14] matey anyway, i assume the worst about the winners, because as you said-- cynical [19:14] schestowitz-TR cc had severe struggles [19:14] matey by-nd? <- unfortunately sometimes [19:14] schestowitz-TR and triued to pull things together [19:14] matey cc had severe struggles <- with integrity, yes. and they lost [19:14] schestowitz-TR joi ito was cruised by the mit thing [19:15] matey joi ito was involved with shady deals [19:15] matey maybe not his fault [19:15] schestowitz https://www.theverge.com/2020/1/13/21063873/jeffrey-epstein-lessig-nyt-defamation-lawsuit-mit-joi-ito-donations-interview [19:15] TR Bot Lawrence Lessig sues New York Times over MIT and Jeffrey Epstein interview - The Verge [19:15] matey very unfortunate [19:15] matey yep [19:15] schestowitz they try to throw lessig under the bus too [19:15] schestowitz after he competed with hrc for president [19:15] matey yeah i hate when good people get thrown under the bus [19:15] matey he wasnt really competition. and neither was she [19:15] matey he just wanted to start a pac [19:16] matey she just wanted to start a war so she could make money :) [19:16] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/joi-ito-email/ [19:16] TR Bot Joi Ito Already Admitted on the Record That Bill Gates Had Paid MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein | Techrights [19:16] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/01/26/mit-and-ms-or-mbs-billg/ [19:16] TR Bot MIT and Microsoft Have Done Nothing to Actually Tackle Pedophilia and Ephebophilia | Techrights [19:16] schestowitz ito was actuallt the one who "OUSTED" Gates [19:16] matey ill let you know what i find later. maybe it will be a happy awards year and none of them are scumbags [19:16] matey that would be alright with me [19:16] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:17] activelow "free software", at present, intentionally or by accident, serves to _spread_ non-free systems (IBM Wintel PC) globally, computer systems which RAND Corp. Pentagon US monopoly controls [19:17] activelow it is no coincidence, J.v.Neumann was a RAND Corp. affiliate, appealing to authority and history with my argument [19:18] activelow "free software", when it should be "free computers", academic freedom, freedom of science [19:20] psydruid "free computing" would be a better goal to strive for [19:21] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/station [19:21] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Station [19:25] activelow furthermore, free computing products, could have been tailored to meet the requirements of academic freedem and freedom of science, and leave the commerce elsewhere to profiteer with [19:25] TR News Dishonest excuses and Microsoft spin https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/windows_11_stalls/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/ [19:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/windows_11_stalls/ [19:25] TR Bot Windows 11 growth at a standstill The Register [19:25] TR Bot Microsoft Delighted by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights [19:25] TR News Deepin 20.5 Released with Face Recognition Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163198 [19:25] TR Bot Deepin 20.5 Released with Face Recognition | Tux Machines [19:26] activelow alot of software and literature isn't of any commercial interest at the scale of income generated from video games, entertainment, and electronic waste production [19:27] activelow yet, profiteering and share-holder value had _not_ been the main objective of the strategy anyway, it was _total_ control over academia and science too, monopolized into the hands of a few in USA [19:29] activelow another spin is this, the strategy to seize full control, for global industrial espionage by USA, succeeded, however USA isn't capable to retain control with too much power concentrated in their hands [19:29] activelow which as one explanation, why software quality and the industry is falling apart [19:30] schestowitz-TR interesting [19:31] schestowitz-TR usually the excuse is a flase dichotomy [19:31] schestowitz-TR where all software must have masters [19:31] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/yale_electronics_fraud/ [19:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/yale_electronics_fraud/ [19:31] TR Bot Yale finance director stole $40m in computers to resell The Register [19:31] schestowitz-TR that aren't the user (free software) [19:32] schestowitz-TR so if NSA^H^H^HClown Computing isn't uniquitious, then "China" or "Russia" or $Enter_Rival "wins" [19:33] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: he was not a Microsoft executive [19:33] schestowitz-TR so he faces charges [19:34] TR News Better for the environment https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/tsmc_predicts_pc_smartphone_slowdown/ [19:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/tsmc_predicts_pc_smartphone_slowdown/ [19:34] TR Bot TSMC not worried about China's COVID lockdowns The Register [19:34] activelow another misnomer, is, with the "software freedom" granted, developers/users supposedly may choose which "operating system" they wanted [19:34] activelow when instead, the real operating system (no coincidence "BIOS" started in "real mode" btw.), is, the "BIOS", UEFI, etc. [19:35] mjg59_ It's not [19:35] activelow it isn't at least obvious anymore, how many such "operating systems" are installed inside a typical IBM Wintel system [19:35] TR News Fake security = set of cargo cults based on misconception, where platforms with back doors get taken for granted https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/the-reality-of-ot-segregation/ [19:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: pentestpartners.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pentestpartners.com/security-blog/the-reality-of-ot-segregation/ [19:35] TR Bot The reality of OT segregation | Pen Test Partners [19:35] mjg59_ Firmware isn't an operating system by any definition [19:36] activelow what's inside: the MMU? USB controller? Ethernet? [19:36] schestowitz-TR baseband [19:36] schestowitz-TR the "real" master [19:37] mjg59_ That's just not actually true? [19:37] schestowitz-TR zOD [19:37] activelow i mean, linux kernel (no blame intended), doesn't at least manage memory, it is MMU/IOMMU etc which do it. [19:37] schestowitz-TR zOS [19:37] schestowitz-TR when one OS can take over the other it's clear what dominates the whole [19:37] mjg59_ activelow: I [19:37] schestowitz-TR like a hypervisor without this topology [19:37] mjg59_ activelow: I'm pretty sure these words do not mean what you think they mean [19:38] mjg59_ How do you think an MMU works? [19:38] schestowitz-TR good luck figuring out how many components work [19:39] schestowitz-TR the hardware side [19:39] schestowitz-TR openbsd rejects x86 RNGs [19:39] activelow mjg59_: i suspect it isn't some static circuitry; yet i had not access to any internals of a typical IBM Wintel "north bridge" yet [19:39] schestowitz-TR and rightly so [19:39] activelow wouldn't surprise me, if there is some type of DOS operating system inside the north bridge, to "manage" memory [19:39] mjg59_ activelow: It is static circuitry [19:40] mjg59_ And even before memory controllers moved into the CPU, it was still in the CPU, not the memory controller [19:40] mjg59_ MMUs are just not complicated [19:40] activelow in terms of hardware development, a northbridge isn't some static filter, certainly not, and it probably isn't some simple state machine either [19:40] mjg59_ They just look at a memory access and say "yes" or "no", and then access the appropriate physical address [19:40] TR News Copyleft in court, in the hands of an org that pockets money from copyleft FOES https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2022/mar/30/neo4j-v-purethink-open-source-affero-gpl/ [19:40] TR Bot An Erroneous Preliminary Injunction Granted in Neo4j v. PureThink - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy [19:41] activelow little more is known about the raspberry video-core (similar to "north bridge"), which got their own "firmware" too, which is the threadx RTOS [19:41] activelow which, is the _real_ operating system of raspberry pi, which cannot be changed either, regardless of any linux installed [19:41] activelow too, this RPI VC initializes memory, etc. [19:42] mjg59_ There's no similarity between the Pi's GPU and x86-style "north bridges" (which haven't existed for years) [19:42] activelow althoug, memory-controller init and mmu are different things again [19:42] mjg59_ activelow: You really don't appear to understand how computers work [19:42] TR News This issue was "Made in USA", but Schneier points the finger at those alleged to have taken advantage of it (probably very unreliable and politically-motivated evidence) https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/03/chrome-zero-day-from-north-korea.html [19:42] TR Bot Zero-Day from North Korea - Schneier on Security [19:42] mjg59_ MMUs and IOMMUs apply extremely simple policy. The modern x86 MMU is not dramatically more complicated than the one in the 386. [19:43] TR News Microsoft: our software is UTTER SHIT. So we blame CHINA! http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ [19:43] TR Bot Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and Five Eyes Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights [19:44] activelow the i386 memory management was complicated already (including paging iirc), and i do not feel comfortable with ARM either btw. [19:45] mjg59_ In what universe is paging complicated? [19:46] TR News "Successful exploitation of this vulnerability could cause a denial-of-service condition in the Ethernet port on the CPU module." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-20-303-01 [19:46] TR Bot Mitsubishi Electric MELSEC iQ-R, Q and L Series (Update C) | CISA [19:46] activelow paging isn't, the entire x86 memory management was/is [19:46] kingoffrance eh, firmware is software that went "down" instead of up. it doesnt really matter. agree with activelow again [19:46] activelow anyway, the _real_ operating system isn't at least known to exist, almost always, which is ThreadX RTOS (too in the hands of california) [19:46] mjg59_ We're talking about something that dates back to the 60s [19:46] mjg59_ Real Mode's segmented architecture was more complicated [19:47] activelow i think, the "segmented" memory has it's roots in "bank switching" done with Z80 and i8086 [19:47] mjg59_ No [19:47] TR News "ATTENTION: Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity [...] Windows: All versions" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-067-01 http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ [19:47] TR Bot PTC Axeda agent and Axeda Desktop Server (Update C) | CISA [19:47] TR Bot Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights [19:47] activelow mjg59_: i may be in error; anyway [19:47] mjg59_ I'm not aware of any widespread 8086 platforms that did bank switching [19:48] activelow z80/i8080 got 16bit memory bus, which was 64KiB address space [19:48] mjg59_ Oh ffs [19:48] kingoffrance ive had this discussion before actually, roughly [19:48] kingoffrance you just end up with...wait for it ... [19:48] mjg59_ When we talk about memory bus size, we're normally talking about the number of data lines, not the number of address lines [19:48] activelow with bank switching, this 64KiB could be multiplixed, such as 10Banks yields 640KiB of memory... a voila, which is the CP/M MS-DOS era limitation [19:49] kingoffrance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_4004 Tadashi Sasaki attributes the basic invention to break the calculator into four parts with ROM (4001), RAM (4002), shift registers (4003) and CPU (4004) to an unnamed woman [19:49] TR Bot Intel 4004 - Wikipedia [19:49] mjg59_ 8086 had a 16-bit memory bus, but 20 bits of addressing [19:49] kingoffrance unnamed woman. lol [19:49] activelow mjg59_: 4bits to switch banks in terms of z80 hackery [19:49] mjg59_ 8088 had an 8-bit memory bus, but still 20 bits of addressing [19:49] activelow ups, wrong, error [19:49] activelow 2^4 is 16banks [19:50] mjg59_ Yes. 8086 could address ~1MB of address space, but the region about 640K was used for other purposes [19:50] mjg59_ 8088, despite only having an 8-bit memory bus, was the same [19:50] TR News "latest sum of patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 is 2,220 (that was on Sunday/Monday). Maybe its 2,500 per day already; hard to tell due to lag in reporting our government recently decided that COVID-19 is so old news that theres no need to report anything during weekends." http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/31/end-of-march/ [19:50] TR Bot Blog Archive The United Kingdom Might Already Have the Highest Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Since February 2021 (Before Mass Vaccination) [19:51] mjg59_ But if your registers are only 16 bits wide, how do you address 1MB of address space? [19:51] mjg59_ (Answer: segments) [19:52] MinceR or bank switching :> [19:52] mjg59_ Ha yeah ok [19:52] mjg59_ But that's a way to address 1MB of memory, not 1MB of address space [19:54] mjg59_ activelow: Anyway 8086 did *not* do bank switching to access 640KB of RAM. MMUs do *not* run an operating system of any sort. You can look at die scans of the 386 and verify (tediously) that the MMU is static circuitry. [19:54] activelow anyway, paging is implemented by the "MMU", not linux kernel [19:54] activelow it is the MMU which controls this [19:54] mjg59_ Linux says "This page has these characteristics" [19:54] TR News Proprietary: "The Qt Company has decided to extend the Qt 5.15 Long Term Support (LTS) with patch releases to five years, prolonging the life of Qt 5.15 until 26 May 2025. 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[19:57] schestowitz *calc [19:57] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/cops-are-being-trained-to-use-literal-witchcraft-to-find-dead-bodies/ [19:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/cops-are-being-trained-to-use-literal-witchcraft-to-find-dead-bodies/ [19:57] schestowitz the kernel does not do so much [19:57] TR Bot Are Being Trained To Use Literal Witchcraft To Find Dead Bodies | Techdirt [19:57] schestowitz the kernel sends machine commands [19:57] schestowitz the kernel takes low-levewl resource allocationm requests [19:57] activelow it isn't at least clarified what and how it is implemented, inside the MMU [19:57] schestowitz and nowadays passes them to some malware [19:58] schestowitz the endpoints of hardware [19:58] activelow and yes, linux kernel did support no-mmu, with SH2 turtle board... which ended nowhere, sadly [19:58] schestowitz often some opaque thing you can barely change [19:58] mjg59_ activelow: How complicated do you think it needs to be to take a virtual address, look it up in the page tables (which are entirely under kernel control), decide whether the access is permitted or not and then pass that on to the memory controller? [19:59] schestowitz linux is also very bloated btw [19:59] schestowitz so opaque are not just endpoints [19:59] schestowitz at this point torvalds has no clue what goes on? [19:59] schestowitz new driver? 500,000 line? "I trust you!" 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[20:03] activelow mjg59_: memory access violations (NX-bit, management of CPU caches) [20:03] mjg59_ You could certainly end up with scenarios where the wrong memory access is attempted, but that's upstream of the MMU [20:03] mjg59_ And cache behaviour is downstream of it [20:03] activelow in Z80 era, i recognize the CPU cache as main-memory, such as 512KiB SRAM are nowadays 512KiB cpu cache [20:05] activelow with an important difference, with Z80 the operating system had control over the SRAM, and how it is allocated [20:05] TR News "Another game now is performing better with dxvk caching... I'd be scared if I were working for Microsoft" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=3SDNH3ZpT48 [20:05] TR Bot Is Windows losing its chokehold on Gaming? - Invidious [20:07] activelow nowadays, it is impossible to know, what the MMU does, doesn't; just one example; and with USB it is at least as interesting [20:07] TR News Easily Set up Remote Backups With Free/Libre Software Duplicati https://vitux.com/ubuntu-bootable-usb-stick/ [20:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: vitux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://vitux.com/ubuntu-bootable-usb-stick/ [20:07] TR Bot a Bootable USB Stick from the Ubuntu Terminal VITUX [20:07] mjg59_ activelow: You could just not enable paging if you wanted? [20:07] mjg59_ x86 runs fine without it [20:08] activelow mjg59_: the BIOS, which is the _real_ operating system, is executed in real mode, not protected mode [20:09] mjg59_ The BIOS is not the "real" operating system [20:09] mjg59_ Paging is not enabled in real mode [20:09] mjg59_ This is like some weird soverign citizen thing [20:09] mjg59_ Something executing in real mode doesn't make it the real anything [20:10] TR News "In this video, I am going to show an overview of Parrot 5.0 Home Edition and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=h6HHBTxvwS8 [20:10] TR Bot Parrot 5.0 Home Edition overview | designed for developers and everyday users. - Invidious [20:11] TR News This Extension Shows Weather Forecast as Desktop Widget in Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163199 [20:12] kingoffrance "The BIOS is not the "real" operating system" its just 5 volume controls all over again [20:12] TR News Proprietary software. "CVE-2022-21228 has been assigned to this vulnerability. A CVSS v3 base score of 7.8 has been calculated" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-090-03 [20:12] kingoffrance there's no terminology, so it just gets overloaded [20:13] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:13] kingoffrance let me dig up a manual [20:15] kingoffrance https://www.amd.com/system/files/TechDocs/22004b.pdf [20:15] kingoffrance pdf page 57 [20:15] kingoffrance Many systems designed with the lanSC520 microcontroller are native embedded systems that do not have a BIOS. [20:16] kingoffrance so its just word games. some oses use bios, 'embedded' stuff that is less common [20:16] kingoffrance bios is just 'standardizatino" in a sense (however poorly that was in practice) [20:16] kingoffrance so, people making things one dimensional as always [20:16] kingoffrance there is 'embedded' and there is 'desktop' and they blithely use the same words without nuance [20:17] kingoffrance activelow is perfectly fine with his definition [20:18] kingoffrance if an 'os' can replace a 'bios' that tells you exactly what a 'bios' is [20:19] kingoffrance and the 'desktop' people have their own 'bios' definition that is different [20:20] kingoffrance its entirely in the eye of the beholder (person writing an os) [20:20] mjg59_ BIOS in the tradtional x86 sense is definitely not an OS [20:21] mjg59_ UEFI could be argued to have most of the characteristics of an OS during boot services, but doesn't after ExitBootServices() is called [20:22] kingoffrance "traditional" there is 'embedded' and 'desktop' there is no one "tradition" [20:22] kingoffrance never was, is not, and never will be. the holy trinity [20:23] activelow "BIOS" even implements almost all device drivers (disks, vga, keyboard) already, which kernel again has to - duplicated [20:23] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/publishers-seem-to-believe-their-outsized-sense-of-entitlement-should-trump-democracy/ [20:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/30/publishers-seem-to-believe-their-outsized-sense-of-entitlement-should-trump-democracy/ [20:23] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163200 [20:24] mjg59_ kingoffrance: "Traditional x86" is desktop-style - embedded x86 with no PC-style BIOS is an extremely small niche [20:24] activelow a traditional "BIOS" was executed on main cpu; nowadays in UEFI era intelME, AMD PSP, raspberry videocore etc. etc. are executed on a separate CPU [20:25] mjg59_ Oh ffs [20:25] mjg59_ No [20:25] mjg59_ Equating all these things is missing the point [20:25] mjg59_ They're all meaningfully different in ways that matter [20:26] mjg59_ And ME long predates the UEFI transition [20:26] activelow too the Northbridge/MMU/MCU [20:26] activelow so, nowadays, careful inspection is necessary, what, besides the real operating system, the real CPU is, how many thereof, and which is secondary [20:27] mjg59_ The "north bridge" hasn't existed for a *long* time [20:27] mjg59_ All that functionality was subsumed into the CPU in the 2000s [20:27] TR News Today, ICBM speaks of "sustainability CSR (corporate social responsibility), and DEI (diversity, equity, inclusion)" after enabling the Holocaust, for profit. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/it-leaders-drive-esg [20:27] mjg59_ But nothing it did could be described as involving secondary CPUs [20:28] activelow on modern AMD mainboards, the real cpu is known to be an ARM core btw.; to execute some real operating system there (not sure what it is) [20:28] activelow IntelME is a Minix [20:28] TR News In my experience, resistance to change is most often based in fear"... so buy new crap from ICBM, to replace what already works. It's better... for ICBM Red Hat https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/3/encouraging-change-ready-mindset-7-tips [20:29] mjg59_ What is "Real CPU" in this context? [20:29] TR News "When to choose Golang versus Python and YAML for writing Kubernetes webbooks." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/kubernetes-webhooks-golang [20:30] activelow real CPU and real OS are the ones which "supervise" any guest, such as linux kernel executed on secondary CPU like an AMD threadripper [20:30] mjg59_ Yeah, the PSP doesn't do that [20:30] mjg59_ It has no supervisory capabilities [20:31] TR News ICBM is still promoting the "Watson" brand. Does it assume that ICBM's client won't find out what Mr. Watson did? It is the ReiserFS syndrome https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/ibm-previews-developer-technology-sandbox-to-help-developers-explore-new-technologies/ [20:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/ibm-previews-developer-technology-sandbox-to-help-developers-explore-new-technologies/ [20:31] mjg59_ It does boot before the x86 cores, but after that it's just another device [20:31] MinceR after booting, it runs Kinibi TE, iirc [20:31] TR News ICBM: don't say master. It offends some people. http://techrights.org/2020/07/25/watson-offensive/ [20:31] mjg59_ You can extract all the code that runs on the PSP easily enough [20:31] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163201 [20:31] mjg59_ https://github.com/PSPReverse/PSPTool [20:32] MinceR well, at least the Kinibi part [20:32] schestowitz-TR we covered this yesterday [20:32] schestowitz-TR amd shoukd nuke it [20:32] mjg59_ If it were a host/guest scenario, the host would be able to inspect all the state of the guest [20:32] schestowitz-TR not outsource this to microsoft [20:32] mjg59_ Which it can't [20:33] schestowitz-TR and you don't assume this is what goes on the chip [20:33] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: There's no assumption here, you can dump it directly from flash [20:33] schestowitz-TR advanced microsoft devices [20:33] schestowitz-TR witrh microsoftr pluton [20:33] schestowitz-TR and psp, not the sony one [20:34] schestowitz-TR you dumb binaries [20:34] schestowitz-TR dump [20:35] mjg59_ Sure, and then you reverse engineer the binaries [20:35] mjg59_ It's not hard? [20:35] mjg59_ I mean, I can do it, and you keep saying that I'm a bad programmer, so you should easily be able to do it [20:36] TR News Under ICBM Red Hat has quit the server market! Now it's all clowns. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-shares-cloud-services-basics [20:36] activelow another problem, down to hardware level, is logic analyzers and digital scopes, and their bandwidth and data channels required [20:37] activelow i mean, with USB1 and 10Mbps ethernet, there is at least a theoretical chance, to hook into a digital scope, de-modulize/de-code this [20:37] TR News Saying you need not have servers because "the clown" is like saying you no longer need any water because you have concentrated syrup [20:37] bnchs psp? [20:37] mjg59_ bnchs: Platform Security Processor [20:37] bnchs focus on intel me first [20:37] bnchs then psp [20:38] mjg59_ Oh [20:38] bnchs or mahbe equally [20:38] mjg59_ ME is more worrying than PSP, in that it does have access to more hardware [20:38] TR News Business: the media told us the clown is the future, so we threw away all our servers. Now we are futuristic! And Serverless(TM). [20:39] bnchs i'm still jealous about how much homebrew support the PSP [20:39] activelow besides, all digital scopes i am aware of, are proprietary things [20:40] bnchs btw sony's SDK only supports the old versions of C++, which cuts off most of the programs and emulators [20:40] bnchs which i dont use anyway [20:40] TR News "Cloud services" and other mouth-watering buzzwords. Me eyes are wet, busting with thrills. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-summit-2022-session-catalog-and-agenda-builder-now-available [20:41] bnchs serverless is retarded [20:41] activelow another option is, to restrict this approach, to audio-band, 20KHz/16bit... ~10Kbps*16; [20:41] bnchs every computer has to be a server for something [20:41] activelow for the sake of fun and freedom, Xoscope and similar, logic analyzers, software de/modulators, de/encoders [20:42] activelow i mean, i would be curious too, to hook into a digital scope, to see what's there, on HDMI [20:42] TR News "This could be exploited to pass data from local files to a remote system controlled by an attacker." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-090-01 [20:43] activelow anyway, again limitations point to an era of "free computing", 40 years ago [20:44] activelow and pencil and paper [20:44] activelow with maths books nearby [20:45] activelow maybe there is a chance, to implement some hayes 300 modem, 100% free and opensource [20:45] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [20:45] TR News Steam Play Proton could get direct support for NVIDIA Image Scaling | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-play-proton-could-get-direct-support-for-nvidia-image-scaling/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [20:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/steam-play-proton-could-get-direct-support-for-nvidia-image-scaling/ [20:45] bnchs activelow: you were right about c++ [20:46] TR News "OneXPlayer are a series of handheld gaming devices, they're somewhat popular and it appears they've been keeping a close eye on SteamOS and how it's been working on the Steam Deck." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/onexplayer-looking-at-shipping-handhelds-with-steamos-like-the-steam-deck/ [20:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/onexplayer-looking-at-shipping-handhelds-with-steamos-like-the-steam-deck/ [20:49] activelow soon i'll know, which software remains with a C-only profile... [20:49] TR News How do kids conceive the internet? https://curlybracket.net/2022/03/31/internet-kids.html "I decided to interview children between 10 and 18." Source: curlybracket [20:49] TR News IBM/Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163202 [20:50] activelow Xoscope? and which and how many of the signal processing stuff (logic analyzers, software de/modulators, de/encoders)? [20:51] activelow or, is it a better choice, to skip the entire 32bit unix, and fully depart to 16bit FuzixOS? [20:51] activelow without a digital scope, only an analog one. [20:52] TR News Games: Steam, Proton Experimental, and Steam Deck Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163203 [20:53] activelow for 16bit SDCC compiler exists, and it is GPL2 [20:53] activelow yet, with 16bit unix, i'm disconnected from the internet, no IRC, no mail, no www. [20:53] bnchs 16-bit? [20:54] activelow FuzixOS, SDCC compiler... it's still there, GPL2 [20:55] bnchs the PS3 porting community still has problems with emulators these days [20:55] bnchs they have an entire list for stuff to be rewritten to C98, or OpenGL 1 [20:57] TR News "Every year, LibrePlanet organizers ask the free software community for short talks called "lightning talks." Below are the submissions we received in 2022. All speakers agreed to licensing their work under a CC BY-SA 4.0 license." https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/lightning-talks-b463/ [20:58] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 62.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 280.78 [20:59] *bnchs (~bnchs@c22s4bgn8d6ec.irc) has joined #techrights ● Mar 31 [21:03] TR News FSFE, FSFs LibrePlanet, and SFC Updates Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163204 [21:06] TR News "Greg Farough gives a final wrap-up of the LibrePlanet 2022 conference events." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163181#comment-33247 [21:07] MinceR focus on whatever you like, the first CPU to be fixed is the first one that will be used in security-critical applications :> [21:08] TR News Gulag turns away from search, becomes imperialistic censorship machine https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/google_misinfo_features/ [21:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/google_misinfo_features/ [21:09] MinceR reminds me of the Imperialistic Bullshit Machine [21:12] TR News Next versions of both Fedora and Ubuntu head into beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163197#comment-33248 [21:12] schestowitz-TR MinceR: it turned into a large missile [21:12] schestowitz-TR with 3 phases [21:12] schestowitz-TR phase [21:12] schestowitz-TR I [21:12] schestowitz-TR phase B [21:12] schestowitz-TR and booM [21:13] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [21:13] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [21:17] TR News Sungard dies, but in the UK we use misleading terms for that https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/uk_arm_of_sungard_availability/ [21:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/30/uk_arm_of_sungard_availability/ [21:17] TR Bot Cloud and DC player Sungard's UK arm in administration The Register [21:18] TR News Facebook should not even exist. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/meta_tiktok_lobbying/ [21:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/31/meta_tiktok_lobbying/ [21:18] TR Bot Meta accused of hiring consultancy to discredit TikTok The Register [21:20] TR News This will make all your work deeply dependent Gulag. 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[21:23] TR News "consider showing your support via going Phoronix Premium or PayPal tip to allow for more time/resources for such investigative benchmarking." $500,000 gifts from AMD/Intel not enough? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-518-Stress-NUMA-Goes-Boom see http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ [21:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-518-Stress-NUMA-Goes-Boom [21:23] TR Bot At A Big NUMA Benchmark Regression In Linux 5.18 Git - Phoronix [21:23] TR Bot When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights [21:25] TR News "Gemini support was recently added to rover making it a gemini client of sorts." gemini://kayvr.com/gemlog/2022-03-31-Rover-Tours-With-Gemini.gmi [21:26] TR News Not-Always Online Computing gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-03-31-not-always-online-computing.gmi "To maximize my freedom of movement I decided that whatever I could easily do offline I should." 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[21:41] TR News Videos/Audiocasts/Shows About GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163205 [21:41] TR Bot Videos/Audiocasts/Shows About GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [21:45] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/samsung-self-repair-program [21:45] TR Bot introduced Galaxy device self-repair program - Protocol [21:46] *matey (~matey@xxppmd3a4yj7s.irc) has joined #techrights [21:46] schestowitz-TR wb [21:47] matey learned something interesting from the securepairs website [21:47] schestowitz-TR chua explains what's new in emacs: " https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/lightning-talks-b463/ [21:47] TR Bot Lightning Talks GNU MediaGoblin [21:47] schestowitz-TR at first I thought it was synthetic voice [21:47] matey theres a "first sale doctrine" precedent / ruling that applies to patents [21:47] schestowitz-TR computer-generated [21:48] schestowitz-TR we still have about 20 decent videos of talks we can publish [21:48] matey this is a good thing, first sale means what you buy is yours, even if you cant copy it [21:48] schestowitz-TR it'll take another week to digest them all [21:48] matey if i buy a book, copyright doesnt dictate what i can do with it, becuase of first sale [21:48] matey dmca is at odds with first sale doctrine [21:49] matey it shouldnt have ever passed [21:49] matey first sale is what makes used book stores and libraries possible [21:49] matey libraries cant copy but they can lend, publisher cant do shit [21:49] matey then came drm [21:49] psydruid is Microsoft making so much noise because they are at risk of becoming a minor player in the US home market? [21:50] matey dont know [21:50] matey but securepairs said [21:50] psydruid elsewhere in the world they still seem to be going strong [21:50] matey As recently as 2017, the U.S. Supreme Court noted in its ruling in Lexmark vs. Impression Products in 2017 (PDF), that the doctrine of patent exhaustion imposes a limit on the patent holders right to exclude. [21:51] matey Namely: when a patentee sells an item, that product is no longer within the limits of the [patent] monopoly and instead becomes the private, individual property of the purchaser. [21:51] matey now i find most patent stuff really boring (of course its important) [21:51] matey but THIS is the kind of patent stuff i care about [21:52] kingoffrance " first sale means what you buy is yours" yeah, but it will just be argued you only bought a 'license' and not an xyz [21:52] matey but it will just be argued you only bought a 'license' <- no no no [21:52] kingoffrance explain :) [21:52] matey first sale is EXACTLY what says the very opposite of that [21:53] matey first sale is what says "the publisher can say fuck all about what you do with your copy (other than copy it) [21:53] matey if you want to take a book you bought and make it into a dress, they cant do shit [21:53] schestowitz-TR this extends to patents [21:53] kingoffrance yeah, but is software going to fall under that? [21:53] schestowitz-TR a lexmark scotus case irc [21:53] schestowitz-TR circa 2015 [21:53] matey this extends to patents <- yes tats what im saying [21:53] matey thats the one they mention, lexmark scotus [21:54] matey but is software going to fall under that? <- everything including software-- but MINUS drm [21:54] schestowitz-TR breyer wrote the decision [21:54] schestowitz-TR before fake 'liberals' pushed him out [21:54] schestowitz-TR "coz trump, so drop dead" [21:54] matey if it has drm, first sale doesnt protect the user there [21:54] matey right to repair is basically about reestablishing first sale rights for people who have equipment [21:55] matey regardless of dmca [21:55] matey dmca provides for exceptions-- but they only last 3 years and they can only be granted by the librarian of congress (its fucking stupid) [21:55] matey (but better than nothing, like scraps from the table) [21:56] matey and the librarian of congress is so tight-arsed they could eat coal and shit out diamonds [21:56] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:57] matey plus why would you go to the librarian of congress to ask if you can repair your tractor [21:57] TR News Links 31/03/2022: LibreOffice 7.3.2, Deepin 20.5, and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/ubuntu-22-04-lts-beta/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/ubuntu-22-04-lts-beta/ [21:57] TR Bot Links 31/03/2022: LibreOffice 7.3.2, Deepin 20.5, and Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Beta | Techrights [21:57] matey thats how stupid and backwards dmca is [21:57] TR News Deepin 20.5 Released with Face Unlock Feature, Screenshot Pinning, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163206 [21:57] TR Bot Deepin 20.5 Released with Face Unlock Feature, Screenshot Pinning, and More | Tux Machines [21:58] matey anyway securepairs looks like a decent business [21:58] matey /me misses freedomdefined [21:58] matey they probably use github of course [21:59] matey they probably use github of course <- big points, cant find anything [21:59] schestowitz-TR defined by microsoft [21:59] schestowitz-TR more lockin [21:59] schestowitz-TR actions [21:59] schestowitz-TR issues ● Mar 31 [22:00] schestowitz-TR defined [22:00] matey defined by microsoft <- who, freedomdefined? [22:00] schestowitz-TR "can't leave, i'll lose all maaaa staaaaars" [22:00] matey not clearlyredefined [22:00] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163207 [22:00] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [22:00] matey freedomdefined sold mipsel laptops with gnewsense [22:01] matey oh no wait [22:01] matey freedomdefined is the free culture license people [22:01] matey what was the company called [22:01] schestowitz-TR clearly clearly [22:01] matey no no this was yaers before [22:02] matey freedomplus? freedomadded? [22:02] matey freedomincluded i think [22:03] matey ive done a search for freedomincluded and the exact model they used to sell is coming up [22:03] matey I've got a white Yeeloong 8101, a beautiful and completely (FSF-)Free 10.1"+ laptop with MIPS ISA and the best keyboard layout I've ever seen. It's plainly superb, but it has a couple drawbacks I should mention: **SUSPEND support* - that's a critical one [22:04] matey i know theyre defunct but im trying to find evidence they existed [22:04] matey www.reddit.com/domain/freedomincluded.com/ [22:04] matey i know, i dislike reddit at least as much as you do [22:05] matey tada http://web.archive.org/web/20100824154628/http://freedomincluded.com/ [22:05] TR Bot Freedom Included, Inc [22:05] matey "Freedom Included currently sells one product, the Lemote Yeeloong with a custom gNewSense GNU/Linux operating system installation. " [22:06] matey "Copyleft boot firmware (bios)" [22:07] *zedomatic has quit (Quit) [22:07] MinceR https://abstrusegoose.com/608 [22:07] TR Bot Abstruse Goose | as surely as the sun rises... [22:07] matey Replaceable Batteries Are Coming Back To Phones If The EU Gets Its Way | Hackaday [22:08] matey i have to be very excited about something to link to hackaday [22:08] matey theyre not awful, but [22:08] MinceR L( [22:08] MinceR :) [22:08] matey https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://hack [22:08] TR Bot Redirect Notice [22:08] matey not that one [22:08] MinceR try archive.is [22:08] psydruid Loongson was the first 64-bit processor I got to work with [22:08] matey yeah right [22:09] matey i havent been able to use archive.is in ages [22:09] matey i literally tried a day ago [22:09] matey https://hackaday.com/2022/03/30/replaceable-batteries-are-coming-back-to-phones-if-the-eu-gets-its-way/ [22:09] TR Bot Batteries Are Coming Back To Phones If The EU Gets Its Way | Hackaday [22:09] MinceR it doesn't work for you? [22:09] matey fucking captcha [22:09] matey no [22:09] MinceR ah [22:09] matey theyre stupid [22:09] matey good idea [22:09] MinceR archive.org then [22:09] matey yeah [22:09] matey theyre stupid too, but less so [22:10] matey by stupid i mean they fuck over legitimate users [22:10] matey and they bullshit the public about it [22:10] matey As part of the EUs new battery regulations, all this is set to change. The text of these regulations is one that mandates that batteries be easily removable, replaceable, and recyclable in a wide range of devices. [22:11] matey i know whats going on here [22:11] matey the fsf gave awards to people who dont suck. [22:11] matey the eu did something that actually benefits consumers instead of having a dick sucking contest with industry [22:11] matey im in a fucking parallel universe arent i [22:12] matey thats funny, i wonder how i got here [22:12] matey maybe i took a wrong turn at the bank [22:13] matey im gonna go check out the lottery, biab [22:14] matey By January 1, 2024, these devices must be designed such that batteries can be safely removed and replaced using basic and commonly available tools and without causing damage to the appliance or batteries. [22:14] matey ah, so theyll change that back before 2024 [22:14] matey "just put it so far in the future that the eu will be defunct anyway" [22:14] matey "how about january 2024" [22:15] matey "yeah it should about done by then" [22:16] matey still a great regulation. like the one about "no lead paint in baby formula" which at least 250 countries follow pretty well [22:16] matey notice how they always call it "baby" formula. to distinguish it from formula 1. [22:18] matey first comment is a fucking gem [22:18] matey "They could make up their minds and remove the regulations that forbid you shipping devices with replaceable batteries, which, I suspect, are one of the reasons everybody glues them in now." [22:18] matey kyle says "You can ship a device with removable batteries, so long as they are IN it." [22:21] matey "Its hard to do much better chemically. Caesium and fluorine would make the best possible battery, but itd combust instantly. I read several years ago that batteries might at best attain 5x their existing capacity as of that moment. So far were still well under 2x." [22:22] matey /me is suddenly inspired to order something from amazon after many years [22:22] matey "hello, jeff? yeah, could you make me something custom?" [22:22] matey and then stick your face in it [22:22] bnchs i fucking hate unremovable batteries [22:23] matey i have a cool thing i do with those [22:23] matey i dont fucking buy anything like that [22:23] matey the closest i got to it was a super thin plastic laptop [22:23] matey and i didnt notice until i got it home [22:23] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [22:23] matey and i removed a few ordinary screws (small phillips ones) [22:23] matey and there was the battery [22:24] matey so MOSTLY removable and replacable, but a bit stupid [22:24] matey did have to remove the entire bottom panel, but it was plastic anyway [22:24] matey it was a neat inexpensive laptop with touchscreen, worked with my own distro [22:24] matey so i thought yay! now i can use a touchscreen on a real computer with a real os [22:25] matey but just like every other touchscreen ever: did i? [22:25] *bnchs (~bnchs@c22s4bgn8d6ec.irc) has joined #techrights [22:25] matey was it actually useful to have that feature? [22:25] matey yeah. a couple of times. [22:25] matey the mouse was better [22:25] bnchs matey: the problem is [22:25] bnchs they justify the unremovable battery by saying its supposed to be "waterproof" [22:26] matey heh [22:26] bnchs even though the water can go through small cracks of the phone screen [22:26] matey strap it to their chest and have them take a bath with it [22:26] bnchs and ruin it anyway [22:26] matey "you wont mind, its waterproof right?" [22:26] bnchs i dont care if its waterproof [22:26] matey "i um, uh-heh" [22:27] bnchs rarely anyone brings their phone underwater [22:27] matey yeah if i want waterproof ill stick it in a bag [22:27] bnchs and if they do [22:27] bnchs they put it in a bag [22:27] matey rarely anyone brings their phone underwater <- the sound quality is terrible [22:27] matey "hebbbloobbllobbloo?" [22:27] bnchs i would pick removable battery instead of waterproof [22:28] bnchs but no they dont want that [22:28] matey "hobbloobbllob blon, im immblla wabbler" [22:28] bnchs it would make their spyware easy to shutdown [22:28] matey i would pick removable battery instead of waterproof <- that makes you the smart consumer [22:28] bnchs matey: ok i faced problems with phones with unremovable batteries [22:29] bnchs one phone had a dead flash but it was still on the shit qualcomm mode [22:29] matey they make waterproof kits for phones with removable batteries [22:29] bnchs i couldnt remove the battery because it was unremovable [22:29] matey they dont make removable battery kits for phones without them [22:29] bnchs so i had to wait for it to DIE [22:29] bnchs which was long [22:29] bnchs thats why i hate unremovable batteries [22:30] matey when i got a galaxy, i started etching a back panel into it so i could get the battery out [22:30] matey i had a plan to install elastics to keep it in place [22:30] bnchs its just an another obstacle for repairing [22:30] bnchs and they know it [22:30] bnchs thats why they stick unremovable batteries [22:31] matey i never etched threw it completely, because before i could even care, the telco installed spyware and i cancelled my account and told them to fuck themselves [22:31] bnchs matey: they put unremovable batteries so that their spyware runs longer [22:31] matey no question [22:31] matey theyre a bunch of shits [22:31] bnchs and to ruin 3rd party repairiability [22:31] matey i know [22:33] bnchs i find it easy to remove the battery when the OS hangs [22:33] matey yes [22:33] matey i still do this [22:33] bnchs in a unremovable battery phone, you have to wait for it to die [22:33] bnchs which can be LOOOOOOONG [22:33] matey like longcat [22:33] bnchs its better to bash the phone until it dies [22:33] bnchs it worked for a phone [22:33] bnchs and restarted good [22:34] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [22:40] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [22:48] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22032745 [22:48] TR News [Meme] IAM | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/joff-went-wild/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/joff-went-wild/ [22:48] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/qkeqy9f0mrp81.jpg created on 2022-03-27 18:07:17.167807 [22:48] TR Bot [Meme] IAM | Techrights [22:52] TR News Webspam | garbage | spam | flood | social control media https://www.maketecheasier.com/thesocialproxy-review/ [22:52] TR Bot TheSocialProxy Review: Taking Social Media Management to the Next Level - Make Tech Easier [22:52] TR News Maybe by next year 90% or more of the Web will be Webspam [22:52] TR News Tumbleweed updates sudo, systemd, ibus Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163208 [22:52] TR Bot Tumbleweed updates sudo, systemd, ibus | Tux Machines [22:52] TR News Kate ate KWrite Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163209 [22:52] TR Bot Kate ate KWrite | Tux Machines [22:53] TR News IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 166 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163210 [22:53] TR Bot IPFire 2.27 - Core Update 166 released | Tux Machines [22:53] activelow MSP430 type systems can operate with a button cell type battery in the milliwatts range [22:53] TR News SerenityOS: A remarkable achievement for a small project Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163211 [22:53] TR Bot SerenityOS: A remarkable achievement for a small project | Tux Machines [22:53] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163212 [22:53] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [22:53] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:53] activelow the some low-badnwidth signal levels are that low, they're barely noticable above noise floor on a digital scope, if at all [22:57] matey MSP430 type systems can operate with a button cell type battery in the milliwatts range <- but is it removable? [22:59] activelow matey: with this type of embedded system, yes. iirc, those systems got a radio stack too: KNX [22:59] TR News OpenStack Yoga on Ubuntu LTS delivers highly performant infrastructure for telcos and researchers with SmartNICs and DPUs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163193#comment-33250 [22:59] TR Bot High performance open infrastructure comes to Ubuntu | Tux Machines ● Mar 31 [23:09] *bnchs (~bnchs@c22s4bgn8d6ec.irc) has joined #techrights [23:14] TR News The Union or Elected Leadership of the EPOs Staff Calls the Shots Now | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-workers-in-control-now/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-workers-in-control-now/ [23:14] TR Bot The Union or Elected Leadership of the EPOs Staff Calls the Shots Now | Techrights [23:15] *matey has quit (connection closed) [23:30] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:32] *bnchs (~bnchs@c22s4bgn8d6ec.irc) has joined #techrights [23:33] bnchs /history #techrights 1h [23:33] bnchs god damn it [23:36] *matey (~matey@ecz2t3b69tp9n.irc) has joined #techrights [23:37] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:42] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:42] *bnchs (~bnchs@ki2fuxy3qq7ua.irc) has joined #techrights [23:42] bnchs i feel like this irc client is buggy [23:43] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [23:46] *matey (~matey@yasufk449d3ms.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] *bnchs (~bnchs@ki2fuxy3qq7ua.irc) has joined #techrights [23:47] bnchs hello [23:47] matey hi [23:51] *matey has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:54] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:54] TR News EPO staff is not as gullible as Antnio Campinos needs the staff to be http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/joff-went-wild/ [23:54] TR News The failing EPO presidency with Oliver Dreute as the so-called Chief of Staff (theyve rebranded the roles) has demonstrably lost control (the numbers speak for themselves) and collective bargaining sets in http://techrights.org/2022/03/31/epo-workers-in-control-now/ [23:58] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:58] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:59] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7x8snfm4r58h8.irc) has joined #techrights