●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, May 31, 2021 ●● ● May 31 [00:11] *KindOne has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [00:13] GNUmoon The some of the mob-against-rms have started a splinter GNU group called the "GNU Assembly" https://gnu.tools/ Many of the signers of the RMS letter (https://rms-open-letter.github.io/) are behind GNU Assembly (https://gnu.tools/en/people/). For example, Andrej Shadura, Ben Pfaff, Carlos O'Donell, David Malcolm, etc... Just what those in power want, fragmentation and division of those who oppose them. [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnu.tools | The GNU Assembly The GNU Assembly [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-An open letter to remove Richard M. Stallman from all leadership positions | rms-open-letter.github.io [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnu.tools | The GNU Assembly Software [00:14] schestowitz GNUmoon: yes, I know [00:14] schestowitz they hijack the acronym too [00:14] schestowitz they lack/lost momentum though [00:14] schestowitz we never mentioned them [00:15] schestowitz no use to it, stirring up this infighting [00:15] GNUmoon Yeah, their website does not make it clear they are a splinter group... [00:15] GNUmoon Indeed. [00:15] schestowitz we move on [00:15] GNUmoon +1 [00:15] schestowitz focusing on issues that matter and promote the cause and make software better [00:15] schestowitz same for IRC by the way [00:15] schestowitz those network wars are a waste of effort and lower morale [00:16] schestowitz however first time in decades that IRC makes many headlines [00:16] GNUmoon yeah, this IRC shit is ridicules. [00:16] psydroid this guy "tausciam" in the Linux 4 Everyone chat has a blog at tausciam.medium.com and is also one of the signatories of the anti-RMS petition [00:16] schestowitz also the Linux Experience [00:16] GNUmoon * ridiculous [00:17] schestowitz they're just bloggers and vloggers [00:17] schestowitz the anti-RMS letter span some youtubers are "orgs" [00:17] schestowitz which I found funny [00:17] schestowitz makes them look big and important [00:19] psydroid that makes the whole thing even more hilarious as well as sad [00:21] *KindOne (kindone@h176.174.142.40.ip.windstream.net) has joined #techrights [00:24] MinceR gnome already hijacked the acronym [00:24] MinceR but at least if they leave, they don't get to poison actual free software [00:24] MinceR ...anymore [00:24] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2007/12/08/gnome-desktop-favoritism/ [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Quote of the Day: Richard Stallman on the GNOME Desktop | Techrights [00:25] schestowitz "GNOME is based on a philosophy, but it is not just a philosophy. It is a project to develop and maintain a desktop environment." [00:25] schestowitz "The sort of favoritism that would be improper is to make a decision for the sake of profit (rather than the success of GNOME and the triumph of freedom).' [00:25] schestowitz -RMS [00:25] schestowitz btw, [00:25] schestowitz gnome is now used a lot by ibm [00:25] MinceR of course [00:25] schestowitz by means of dependencies [00:25] MinceR it is their tool to force cancerd on people [00:25] MinceR it worked on deadian [00:25] schestowitz so if alpine for instance wants some things [00:25] schestowitz like firefox [00:26] schestowitz it then needs pulseaudio, systemd, flatpak etc. [00:26] schestowitz afaik, some distros work on systemd-free kde [00:26] schestowitz thankfully [00:26] schestowitz good to have both gnome and kde [00:26] schestowitz kde isn't controlled by ibm (or barely) [00:26] schestowitz so contingencies do exist [00:29] schestowitz at one point rasengan was in the gnome foundation board [00:29] schestowitz no idea the background story behind it [00:29] schestowitz why? how? many ran and won by vote [00:30] schestowitz https://foundation.gnome.org/tag/private-internet-access/\ [00:30] schestowitz https://foundation.gnome.org/tag/private-internet-access/ [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foundation.gnome.org | Private Internet Access The GNOME Foundation [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foundation.gnome.org | Private Internet Access The GNOME Foundation [00:30] schestowitz https://foundation.gnome.org/2013/09/23/private-internet-access-joins-the-gnome-foundations-advisory-board/ [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foundation.gnome.org | Private Internet Access joins the GNOME Foundations Advisory Board The GNOME Foundation [00:30] schestowitz Andrew Lee, co-founder of Private Internet Access said Weve been very fond of GNOME at Private Internet Access for quite a long time. When GNOME announced its new initiatives towards greater privacy functionality, our fondness quickly became a strong admiration. Were very proud to support GNOME and its continued commitment to open source, usability and, most importantly, privacy. [00:30] schestowitz Private Internet Access, founded in August 2010 is a VPN service provider offering anonymous and encrypted VPN. The service operates at the TCP/IP interface level, allowing all applications to be secured, not just the web browser. Private Internet Access has publicly commited itself to user privacy. It is a small U.S.-based company, with thousands of users. [00:31] schestowitz I am excited to welcome Private Internet Access as a GNOME Advisory Board member, said Tobias Mueller, member of the board of directors of the GNOME Foundation. This is a great example of how the support for Free Software is growing and highlights how we are aligned in our missions to put users in control. [00:31] schestowitz says co-founder [00:31] MinceR kde already capitulated to gnome/systemd [00:31] schestowitz who is/are the other founder/s? [00:31] schestowitz https://foundation.gnome.org/tag/private-internet-access/ [00:32] schestowitz same date for both, so the funding or partnership begets interview and position [00:32] schestowitz "We recently had the chance to sit down and talk to Andrew Lee, co-founder of GNOMEs newest advisory board member Private Internet Access. Andrew Lee is a long-time privacy advocate, and has co-founded several other privacy related companies in the past including Mt Gox Live which was later acquired by Mt Gox the leading Bitcoin exchange. To learn more about GNOMEs Advisory Board and the addition of Private Internet Access, check [00:32] schestowitz out our press release." [00:32] schestowitz Mt Gox whose CTO is in the picture still [00:32] schestowitz anyway... that was 8 years ago [00:33] schestowitz +1 for saying "GNU/Linux" [00:33] schestowitz "We do not have any specific numbers regarding the percentage of our customers who use GNU/Linux. However, with that said, were confident that most of our customers are using GNU/Linux in some form, whether on their desktop or mobile device." [00:35] schestowitz 4 years ago: "I'm not sure if you consider this bad, but I do consider it bad if a single person starts buying up everything I use daily. And I will try to prevent this centralization of power. (For the same reason I dislike Google, which also concentrates far too much power in the hands of just two people)." [00:35] schestowitz https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14911657 [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | There are no strings attached. I was really surprised when they contacted me on ... | Hacker News [00:35] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [00:43] Ariadne will you move to hugo? [00:43] Ariadne :) [00:44] Ariadne the main reason i haven't worked on containerizing techrights and tuxmachines further is because i have no idea if any of those will run on a modern PHP [00:51] techrights-bot Play Video as Animated Wallpaper in #Ubuntu via This Tool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151757 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Play Video as Animated Wallpaper in Ubuntu via This Tool | Tux Machines [00:51] techrights-bot #Graphics : RenderDoc, AMDGPU, Cairo 2D, and #XOrg http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151756 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: RenderDoc, AMDGPU, Cairo 2D, and X.Org | Tux Machines [00:51] techrights-bot Cairo #Graphics Sees Major Improvements To Its SVG Backend - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Cairo-SVG-Improved-2021 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/30/#latest [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cairo Graphics Sees Major Improvements To Its SVG Backend - Phoronix [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:51] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151759 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:54] techrights-bot #Linux 5.13-rc4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151761 #Kernel #TuxMachines [00:54] techrights-bot #LinuxMagazine s Latest Issue http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151762 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:55] techrights-bot #m4 1.4.19 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151760 #GNU #freesw #TuxMachines [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.13-rc4 | Tux Machines [00:55] techrights-bot Richard Stallman is an activist for digital freedom, fighting to enable users to control their computing and their data; founder, leader and philosopher of the Free Software Movement http://techrights.org/2021/05/30/conversation-with-rms/ [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Magazine's Latest Issue | Tux Machines [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | m4-1.4.19 released | Tux Machines [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Alexandre Oliva: A Conversation With Richard Stallman | Techrights [00:59] techrights-bot #SublimeText 4 Is Here: Whats New for Linux Devices? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151431#comment-29795 [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sublime Text 4 | Tux Machines [00:59] techrights-bot #Huawei turning to #freesw https://www.nextpit.com/winners-and-losers-of-the-week-22?PageSpeed=noscript [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Winners and losers of the week: Wearables on the rise and Huawei looking for a way forward | NextPit [00:59] phobos as an experiment, I'm going to blacklist clownfare and see how many sites I can no longer access [00:59] techrights-bot PC gaming on Linux: how hard can it be? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151755 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #gaming #games [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PC gaming on Linux: how hard can it be? | Tux Machines ● May 31 [01:00] schestowitz phobos: cannot access freenode site [01:00] *XRevan86 can. [01:01] schestowitz now with clownflare blocked [01:01] schestowitz (not [01:01] techrights-bot "Beware of #IBM education. It teaches you their products are the best in the market and that is simply not true. There is sometimes too much marketing propaganda masquerading as training at IBM." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4jZVuv#replies [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Investing in yourself - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:01] techrights-bot This is truly tiny https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/29/nordic-semi-npm1100-pmic-combines-battery-charger-and-regulator-in-tiny-wlcsp-package/ [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Nordic Semi nPM1100 PMIC combines battery charger and regulator in tiny WLCSP package - CNX Software [01:03] techrights-bot "IBM started declining long before 2013. When the Basic Beliefs became "legacy" the company started its slide. Now IBM is ruining the lives of tens of thousands of employees to make up for decades of mismanagement." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:03] techrights-bot Annual Report 2020: #TDF and #LibreOffice infrastructure http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151665#comment-29796 #opendocument #odf [01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TDF Annual Report 2020 | Tux Machines [01:04] techrights-bot "Then it got bastardized by the Big Blue machine and all the aholes trying to push their own agendas and it got spun up into whole stupid program driven by process." #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs [01:04] techrights-bot Record Live Audio immediately with #GNOME #Gingerblue 0.4.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151758 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Record Live Audio immediately with GNOME Gingerblue 0.4.1 | Tux Machines [01:05] techrights-bot "While there are no signs of #XOrg Server 1.21 shipping anytime soon, being merged today to the Git code-base is bumping X Input to version 2.4 with the introduction of touchpad gestures." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=X-Input-2.4-Touchpad-Gestures [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org Server Lands X Input 2.4 Touchpad Gestures - Phoronix [01:05] *rod_myers (~rodney@99-17-94-233.lightspeed.knvltn.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [01:06] techrights-bot #Comcast sends #DMCA threats to a subscriber for downloading #Ubuntu GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151614#comment-29792 [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Comcast Sends Copyright Notice to a User for Downloading Ubuntu ISO via Torrent | Tux Machines [01:06] techrights-bot #LibreOffice 7.2 - New Features and Release Details http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151752 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.2 - New Features and Release Details | Tux Machines [01:08] techrights-bot "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now signed by 6,727 people. [01:08] techrights-bot TIL #Lagrange the #geminiProtocol client also supports #Gopher and gopher:// sites are still alive and well, e.g. gopher://thelambdalab.xyz/1/projects/elpher/ [01:09] techrights-bot #elementaryOS 6 Beta Available Today http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151751 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS 6 Beta Available Today | Tux Machines [01:10] techrights-bot #elementaryOS 6 Beta Available Today http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151751 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:12] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151754 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [01:13] techrights-bot #REGULATING corporations (What's that?!) http://techrights.org/videos/chomsky-on-corporations.ogg [01:13] techrights-bot #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: May 30th, 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151753 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: May 30th, 2021 | Tux Machines [01:14] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151747 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [01:14] techrights-bot "The whole premise of spending 80 hours / year of learning is flawed and focuses on the wrong goal. This is another example of inane #IBM management by checking off boxes." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies [01:15] techrights-bot #slashdot running #microsoft 'ads' (attacks on #gnu #linux the "EEE" way) in the "LINUX" section... part of a longstanding pattern. #wsl #wsl2 [01:16] techrights-bot #BlankOn 12 Beta Launched for Public Testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151749 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | BlankOn 12 Beta Launched for Public Testing | Tux Machines [01:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 71.60 swarm size (avg): 234.92 [01:17] techrights-bot #MAKULU CORE 2021 RELEASED ! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151746 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #MAKULULinux [01:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MAKULU CORE 2021 RELEASED ! | Tux Machines [01:17] techrights-bot #MyCobot robotic arm is offered with #RaspberryPi 4 or M5Stack http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151668#comment-29791 [01:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Six-axis manipulation robot based on Raspberry Pi 4B sells for $699 | Tux Machines [01:18] techrights-bot Eben Moglen on the freedom to think http://techrights.org/videos/moglen-2008/eben-moglen-on-ip-v1.ogg #patents #copyrights #iceland #monopolies [01:19] techrights-bot #4MLinux 36.1 released. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151745 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:19] techrights-bot Alexandre Oliva: A Conversation With #RichardStallman http://techrights.org/2021/05/30/conversation-with-rms/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/30/conversation-with-rms/ [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4MLinux 36.1 released. | Tux Machines [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Alexandre Oliva: A Conversation With Richard Stallman | Techrights [01:20] techrights-bot #Softwarepatents won't withstanding scrutiny in American courts, but the #USPTO keeps granting them anyway https://www.phonearena.com/news/apple-patents-method-to-fix-typos_id131488 #swpats [01:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple receives a patent for new method that quickly finds and fixes typos on the iPhone - PhoneArena [01:21] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151750 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:22] techrights-bot Why #Techrights constantly explores decentralisation and so should everybody else http://techrights.org/2021/05/30/decentralised-internet/ [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Internet Was Made to be Decentralised and We Need to Re-decentralise It | Techrights [01:28] tessier Unfortunately, there's more money in centralization and the users don't care. :( [01:28] tessier In a way I'm pretty disappointed with how things have worked out over the last 20 years. [01:29] tessier We've got some neat toys but I'm not sure what they've gained us, really. [01:35] phobos ease of banning sites we don't agree with? [01:36] phobos instead of playing whack a mole with lots of servers, now there is only one or two ;) [01:36] phobos Ask Parler about that ● May 31 [02:01] tessier Parler were racist idiots. Not a very good example. [02:01] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:09] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:10] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [02:14] tessier WTF is the official CentOS IRC channel these days?! [02:14] tessier Am I going to have to reinstall with Ubuntu now? [02:14] tessier Probably. :( Ubuntu or full on debian? Hmm. [02:14] phobos you like that systemd malware? [02:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 38.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.41 swarm size (avg): 234.95 [02:19] tessier That's not helpful. [02:20] tessier Maybe this is a good excuse to buy some new hardware to reinstall on. Just need to decide on what. [02:20] CrystalMath tessier: you can use devuan [02:20] CrystalMath that will avoid systemd while still giving you the debian you always expected [02:21] CrystalMath also i think CentOS is discontinued, now there's Bedrock Linux or something [02:22] XRevan86 tessier: It's #rockylinux at irc.libera.chat [02:23] CrystalMath oh not bedrock [02:23] CrystalMath someone said "#bedrock" but i have no idea what it is [02:23] CrystalMath Rocky Linux is a nice name [02:29] XRevan86 tessier: I am personally a Debian/Devuan user but ye do you, there are no new reasons to switch. [02:30] MinceR Bedrock Linux lets you install multiple distros together and access parts of one distro (like executables) from another [02:31] MinceR it also lets you install the same distro multiple times [02:31] CrystalMath right i mixed them up [02:31] MinceR i think Rocky Linux was said to be similar to centos [02:32] MinceR and of course oracle linux :> [02:32] XRevan86 MinceR: I heard it's very similar to RHEL too. Who knew? [02:33] XRevan86 It's almost as if all of the above are minor variations on the same theme. [02:36] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-300521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-300521.txt Read the log now... [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Sunday, May 30, 2021 [02:37] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Sunday, May 30, 2021 [02:40] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-05-30.txt [02:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: When ye talk to kaniini, can ye bring her attention to https://github.com/solanum-ircd/solanum/issues/159 ? [02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RELAYMSG support Issue #159 solanum-ircd/solanum GitHub [02:56] tessier CrystalMath: Thanks. But I never said I want to avoid systemd. :) [02:57] tessier I'm just looking for my next stable distro of the next 20 years. [02:57] MinceR but if you're looking for a distro that is stable, that rules out systemd :> [02:57] phobos :D [02:58] MinceR systemd will never be stable, they don't even have a versioning that would suggest that they would want it to be [02:58] MinceR s/ing/ing system/ [02:58] phobos trying to be everything in the system and good at nothing ● May 31 [03:03] MinceR oh, and they don't fix bugs, they just tell you you're stupid for believing that it's behavior is wrong [03:04] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 141209 total Total pages: 35723 Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-03-26 00:17:05 GMT; 2 months 5 days ago [03:04] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.1 GB TotalOut: 606 MB [03:04] techrights-ipfs New daily bulletin just generated. 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Its like posting that you read a web article or watched a YouTube on a topic." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies [05:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs [05:25] techrights-bot NEWS #Rachel IRC: run it or use it, but try to avoid doing both https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2021/05/26/irc/ [05:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rachelbythebay.com | IRC: run it or use it, but try to avoid doing both [05:26] techrights-bot NEWS #PeterVernigorov Contributing to Gemini ecosystem https://pitr.ca/2021-05-29-gemini-ecosystem [05:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pitr.ca | Contributing to Gemini ecosystem [05:26] techrights-bot NEWS #Olimex #OpenHardware Donald Knuths MIX computer implemented in iCE40HX8K-EVB https://olimex.wordpress.com/2021/05/26/donald-knuths-mix-computer-implemented-in-ice40hx8k-evb/ [05:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-olimex.wordpress.com | Donald Knuths MIX computer implemented in iCE40HX8K-EVB | olimex [05:26] techrights-bot NEWS #JeffGeerling #OpenHardware Two Tiny Dual-Gigabit Raspberry Pi CM4 Routers https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/two-tiny-dual-gigabit-raspberry-pi-cm4-routers [05:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jeffgeerling.com | Two Tiny Dual-Gigabit Raspberry Pi CM4 Routers | Jeff Geerling [05:27] techrights-bot NEWS #RubenSchade #perl Replacing XML::XPath with XML::LibXML in Perl https://rubenerd.com/replacing-xpath-with-libxml-in-perl/ [05:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Replacing XML::XPath with XML::LibXML in Perl [05:29] techrights-bot NEWS #NewYorkTimes #ProprietarySoftware Secret Chats Show How Cybergang Became a Ransomware Powerhouse https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/world/europe/ransomware-russia-darkside.html [05:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Secret Chats Show How Cybergang Became a Ransomware Powerhouse - The New York Times [05:30] techrights-bot NEWS #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware #Sophos claims to have found new barebones Windows ransomware https://itwire.com/security/sophos-claims-to-have-found-new-barebones-windows-ransomware.html [05:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Sophos claims to have found new barebones Windows ransomware [05:31] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Clownflare ACE/MPA Ask #Cloudflare To Unmask Operators of Two Dozen Pirate Sites https://torrentfreak.com/ace-mpa-ask-cloudflare-to-unmask-operators-of-two-dozen-pirate-sites-210530/ [05:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ACE/MPA Ask Cloudflare To Unmask Operators of Two Dozen Pirate Sites * TorrentFreak [05:32] techrights-bot #5 #hype as #evergreening of #patents and #patent pools https://www.phonearena.com/news/huawei-demand-apple-samsung-pay-5g-patent-royalties_id130783 [05:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Huawei to request 5G patent royalties from Apple and Samsung - PhoneArena [05:34] techrights-bot The Supreme Court of #Brazil changed the rules for calculating the term of protection for #patents and utility models https://www.lvcentinvs.es/2021/05/19/the-supreme-court-of-brazil-changed-the-rules-for-calculating-the-term-of-protection-for-patents-and-utility-models/ "changes patent protection in Brazil" [05:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lvcentinvs.es | The Supreme Court of Brazil changed the rules for calculating the term of protection for patents and utility models | LVCENTINVS [05:35] techrights-bot Footware is a #Trademark ?? https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-and-puma-are-fighting-over-footware-trademark-in-the-u-s-and-the-uk/ [05:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/nike-and-puma-are-fighting-over-footware-trademark-in-the-u-s-and-the-uk/ ) [05:37] techrights-bot Killing #memes with #monopolies https://intellectual-property-helpdesk.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/disaster-girl-earning-money-through-nft-and-hasbro-losing-monopoly-eutm-2021-05-18_en [05:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-intellectual-property-helpdesk.ec.europa.eu | Disaster Girl earning money through NFT and Hasbro losing the Monopoly EUTM [05:38] techrights-bot US bully #USTR is against blackmailing nations to pass law favourable for Empire https://spicyip.com/2021/05/special-301-report-2021-copyrights-enforcement-and-the-same-old-complaints.html [05:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Special 301 Report 2021: Copyrights, Enforcement, and the Same Old Complaints | SpicyIP [05:39] techrights-bot #USTR should be blacklisted. https://spicyip.com/2021/05/special-301-report-2021-uss-great-u-turn-on-compulsory-licensing.html see #wikileaks #cablegate on USTR: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Cablegate [05:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Special 301 Report 2021: USs Great U-turn on Compulsory Licensing | SpicyIP [05:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cablegate - Techrights [05:40] techrights-bot #USTR again extorting #india ... India should report USTR to international bodies for abuse and legal aggression. https://spicyip.com/2021/05/special-301-report-2021-trade-secrets-patents-and-technology-transfer.html [05:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Special 301 Report 2021: Trade Secrets, Patents and Technology Transfer | SpicyIP [05:40] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Always read both sides of the story - http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) [05:47] techrights-bot "Bug tracking is useful for any project regardless of it's size and today we're looking at a bug tracker that integrates directly into git and fits inside your existing git workflow." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q4Lac0MCL0 [05:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Git Bug: Bug Tracking Directly Inside Git! - YouTube [05:52] techrights-bot #Overwatch Players Reportedly Getting Banned for Strange Reason http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151763 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Overwatch Players Reportedly Getting Banned for Strange Reason | Tux Machines [05:56] techrights-bot "Looking into the set of tools adopted by many TGFs you may deduce that the medium does not matter. In many cases, proprietary tools and platforms notorious for censoring and abusive moderation have been used. So, the end justify the means, isnt it?" https://dimitris.cc/kde/2021/05/30/is_the_medium_the_message.html [05:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is the medium the message? dimitris.cc Notes on technology and freedom [05:57] techrights-bot "Tok is now equipped with a quick switcher for fast and efficient keyboard navigation between chats. Simply Ctrl+K, type in your chat's name, and press enter." https://blog.blackquill.cc/a-switchy-week-in-tok #freesw #kde [05:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.blackquill.cc | A Switchy Week In Tok Janet's Shenanigans [05:58] techrights-bot #drm https://libreelec.tv/2021/05/le-9-2-7-10b4-fix-widevine/ [05:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libreelec.tv | LE 9.2 and LE10 fix for widevine LibreELEC [05:59] techrights-bot #Gnuastro 0.15 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151764 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gnuastro 0.15 released | Tux Machines ● May 31 [06:00] techrights-bot Review: #EndeavourOS 2021.04.17 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151765 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: EndeavourOS 2021.04.17 | Tux Machines [06:01] techrights-bot What a weird article from #ibm #redhat ... nothing left to write? https://opensource.com/article/21/5/breakfast [06:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-16 efficient breakfasts of open source technologists from around the world | Opensource.com [06:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 37.68 swarm size (avg): 235.06 [06:19] techrights-bot Links 31/5/2021: #4MLinux 36.1, #BlankOn 12 Beta, Linux 5.13 RC4, GNU M4 1.4.19 and #Gnuastro 0.15 http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/gnuastro-0-15/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/31/gnuastro-0-15/ [06:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 31/5/2021: 4MLinux 36.1, BlankOn 12 Beta, Linux 5.13 RC4, GNU M4 1.4.19 and Gnuastro 0.15 | Techrights [06:19] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151769 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [06:20] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151768 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [06:20] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151767 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [06:20] techrights-bot Learning More about ProtonGE with GloriousEggroll http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151766 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Learning More about ProtonGE with GloriousEggroll | Tux Machines ● May 31 [07:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.45 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 45.88 swarm size (avg): 235.09 ● May 31 [08:03] *KindOne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:08] *KindOne (kindone@h203.151.88.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has joined #techrights [08:11] techrights-bot Kernel prepatch 5.13-rc4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151761#comment-29797 [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.13-rc4 | Tux Machines [08:11] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151770 #Linux #TuxMachines [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:12] *rod_myers (~rodney@99-17-94-233.lightspeed.knvltn.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [08:12] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:14] techrights-bot April: #Patenttroll sues #Apple and #Qualcomm for allegedly infringing on a patent related to #5G transceivers https://www.phonearena.com/news/apple-qualcomm-sued-over-use-of-5g-wireless-transceivers_id131346 [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent troll sues Apple and Qualcomm for allegedly infringing on a patent related to 5G transceivers - PhoneArena [08:16] techrights-bot #lobbying or legalised #bribery / #corruption https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-power-of-lobbying:3 [08:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | The power of lobbying [08:17] techrights-bot "I got a new HP laptop and still did notl open it- Any idea how to avoid paying the Windows license before installing GNU/ Linux?" https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2021-05/msg00093.html [08:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.gnu.org | Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US [08:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 51.56 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 31.85 swarm size (avg): 235.12 [08:29] schestowitz changing MOTD: [08:29] schestowitz Welcome to irc.techrights.org. [08:29] schestowitz This is the self-hosted IRC network of Techrights. [08:29] schestowitz Key channels in this network: #techtrights #techbytes #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social [08:29] schestowitz Please try to keep on topic. [08:29] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:29] *schestowitz (~roy@haii6za73zabc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:29] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +q #techrights schestowitz [08:30] schestowitz I am guessing I might need to reload IRCd or something to have the changes take effect [08:38] *rianne has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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The only explanation I can find it "slow news" or some business interests... [11:56] techrights-bot I mean, look... I don't really care if Intel or NVIDIA or some other company has some new and overpriced (new #patents and price-fixing, deflated availability) piece of hardware, esp. if that hardware has nothing to do with Linux... it very often (at launch time) lacks proper Linux support [11:59] techrights-bot "MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries, the first single player MechWarrior game for a long time has jumped from the Epic Store over to Steam and it runs well on Linux." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/mechwarrior-5-mercenaries-runs-great-on-linux-with-proton-now-its-on-steam [11:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries runs great on Linux with Proton now it's on Steam | GamingOnLinux ● May 31 [12:01] techrights-bot "The #Piepacker team gave us early access to take a look, so we took it for an initial spin and it worked perfectly on Linux. As long as you have a Chromium/Chrome based browser (Firefox support is to come)." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/retro-game-streaming-service-piepacker-is-quite-impressive-and-works-well-on-linux [12:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Retro game streaming service Piepacker is quite impressive and works well on Linux | GamingOnLinux [12:01] techrights-bot #GNULinux distribution #Solus joins Open Collective for funding hardware and developers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151772 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux distribution Solus joins Open Collective for funding hardware and developers | Tux Machines [12:02] schestowitz BaronVladimirHar: well done calling it "GNU/Linux" [12:02] schestowitz That shows respect to history [12:02] schestowitz "Linux" as shorthand is unintended revisionism [12:02] schestowitz and each time you say GNU you really hurt the monopolists and their corporate media [12:03] schestowitz because it leads people to thinking of the situation differently [12:07] *tr_guest|20571 (519aa9a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.154.169.167) has joined #techrights [12:08] *tr_guest|82029 (~519aa9a7@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:08] schestowitz ok, kiwi in... [12:10] *tr_guest|82029 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:12] *tr_guest|28672 (~519aa9a7@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:12] schestowitz https://kiwiirc.com now points to here [12:13] techrights-bot #Games : Signus: The Artefact Wars, MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries, Piepacker http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151773 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Signus: The Artefact Wars, MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries, Piepacker | Tux Machines [12:13] tr_guest|28672 this is a test [12:13] tr_guest|28672 wikipedia test [[Roy]] [12:14] schestowitz OK, that's a freenode-specific feature [12:15] *tr_guest|28672 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [12:19] *IroncladCorona (~jon@64.121.152.202) has joined #techrights [12:19] *tr_guest|20571 has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [12:21] *tr_guest|31981 (~519aa9a7@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:23] *tr_guest|31981 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [12:31] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 35.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 72.36 swarm size (avg): 235.19 [12:48] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [12:59] schestowitz Ariadne: there seems to be a timeout thing for kiwiirc ● May 31 [13:00] schestowitz it always hangs up after a couple of minutes, maybe a setting somewhere? [13:01] schestowitz " [13:01] schestowitz Ping timeout: 2m30s [13:01] schestowitz Disconnected from the IRC network [13:01] schestowitz " [13:03] *tr_guest|18481 (~519aa9a7@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:04] techrights-bot "Consider these books as essential resources to help you maximize the value of your data" sounds like some sort of #surveillance PR slant in Red Hat's site https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/5/data-storytelling-skills-4-books [13:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 4 books to boost your data storytelling skills | The Enterprisers Project [13:05] *tr_guest|18481 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:06] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat wants you to buy a bunch of complex stuff, with #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware (GitHub) in the mix, just to use #java https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/05/31/learn-quarkus-faster-quick-starts-developer-sandbox-red-hat-openshift [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Learn Quarkus faster with quick starts in the Developer Sandbox for Red Hat OpenShift | Red Hat Developer [13:07] techrights-bot LOL!!!!!! SMART mugs. Does it come with SMART straw? LOL. https://www.addictivetips.com/buying-guides/smart-coffee-mug/ [13:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | Best Smart Coffee Mugs to Start Your Morning With (2021 Edition) [13:08] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:09] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [13:10] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [13:10] schestowitz reproducible in Firefox and Falkon (Blink) [13:11] *rrh (519aa9a7@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:12] *inky (~inky@46.162.239.87) has joined #techrights [13:12] techrights-bot "Josh and Kurt talk about HEY HI driven comments. We live in a world of massive confusion and disruption where what is true and false, real and fake, are often widely debated." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2021/05/30/episode-273-can-we-stop-the-coming-artificial-unintelligence-deluge/ [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 273 Can we stop the coming artificial unintelligence deluge? Open Source Security [13:14] techrights-bot In 2020 and 2021 the term "HEY HI" (AI) simply means or should be read as "COMPUTER PROGRAM/S". Because almost all that time that's just what it means, after de facto misuse and cheapening. "APP" means a very crap application or software -- one you would not normally use, but "stores" limit what you can do on your device/s. [13:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.28 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 41.40 swarm size (avg): 235.23 [13:17] techrights-bot #scotsman doesn't have journalists, so it just let's a bunch of law/lie firms do misleading and shameless self-promotion instead, this time (as usual) for #MarksAndClerk , a highly corrupt firm that faces major lawsuits https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/cooking-up-a-patent-for-your-unique-recipe-might-not-be-as-easy-as-you-think-graham-mcglashan-3252778 [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cooking up a Patent for your unique recipe might not be as easy as you think - Graham McGlashan | The Scotsman [13:24] *zleap (~zleap@unaffiliated/zleap) has joined #techrights [13:26] techrights-bot "The legal basis for compulsory licenses under Canadian Patent law is the Canadian Patent Act (hereinafter Patent Act) Chapter 9." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/31/compulsory-licensing-canada/ In many cases not really the solution; in many of the covered domains it would be better to have no #patents at all] [13:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Compulsory Licensing Canada - Kluwer Patent Blog [13:29] *rrh has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [13:29] techrights-bot Well, FR #patents are a joke as #INPI in #France does no real patent examination and therefore became a mere rubber-stamping faculty in service of the rich https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/05/31/2238618/0/en/Safe-Orthopaedics-announces-the-Paris-Court-of-Justice-judgment-in-its-favor-in-the-infringement-case-against-Neo-Medical.html http://techrights.org/2020/03/07/inpi-corruption-scandal/ [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Safe Orthopaedics announces the Paris Court of Justice [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Financial and Legal Corruption Scandal in France (INPI) Implicating the Person Benot Battistelli Put in Charge of the EPOs Finances | Techrights [13:31] techrights-bot "Ethics in the Practice of IP" is a paradox. When you sue and blackmail various actors, no matter their size, over some ludicrous monopoly on thoughts you are clearly unethical, but greedy... https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/virtual-seminar-on-ethics-in-the-practice-of-ip-law.html [13:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Virtual Seminar on Ethics in the Practice of IP Law [13:32] techrights-bot Eben Moglen in #iceland talking about intellectual #monopolies http://techrights.org/videos/moglen-2008/eben-moglen-on-ip-v2.ogg [13:36] techrights-bot #Firefox 89 Is Now Available for Download with Fresh New Look, Improved Privacy http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151774 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 89 Is Now Available for Download with Fresh New Look, Improved Privacy | Tux Machines [13:41] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [13:45] *tr_guest|13164 (~519aa9a7@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:46] tr_guest|13164 test [13:48] *rrh (519aa9a7@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:48] *tr_guest|13164 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● May 31 [14:01] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:848c:69bf:9afc:6140) has joined #techrights [14:06] *rrh has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [14:07] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [14:08] schestowitz just did a video about this network [14:08] schestowitz the above is a test from the demo [14:12] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [14:29] *inky has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 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[15:49] MinceR :) [15:51] *Mayk (~backus@212-120-104-67.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl) has joined #techrights [15:51] *tr_guest|48696 (~519aa9a7@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:52] schestowitz TechRights [15:52] schestowitz - Welcome to irc.techrights.org. [15:52] schestowitz - This is the self-hosted IRC network of Techrights. [15:52] schestowitz - Key channels in this network: #techrights #techbytes #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social [15:52] schestowitz - Please try to keep on topic. [15:52] schestowitz it worked! [15:52] schestowitz thanks [15:52] schestowitz it'll probably drop the connection soon [15:52] tr_guest|48696 TechRights [15:52] tr_guest|48696 - Welcome to irc.techrights.org. [15:52] tr_guest|48696 - This is the self-hosted IRC network of Techrights. [15:52] tr_guest|48696 - Key channels in this network: #techrights #techbytes #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social [15:52] tr_guest|48696 - Please try to keep on topic. [15:52] tr_guest|48696 TechRights [15:52] tr_guest|48696 - Welcome to irc.techrights.org. [15:52] tr_guest|48696 - This is the self-hosted IRC network of Techrights. [15:52] tr_guest|48696 - Key channels in this network: #techrights #techbytes #boycottnovell and #boycottnovell-social [15:52] tr_guest|48696 - Please try to keep on topic. [15:52] tr_guest|48696 test instead of ping [15:53] schestowitz give it 150 secs [15:53] schestowitz let's see if it dies [15:54] schestowitz same software on freenode doesn't die due to ping timeout, so I assume it's a server side thing or config in IRC side, not KiwiIRC side [15:55] tr_guest|48696 [irc.techrights.org] [15:55] tr_guest|48696 +i [15:55] tr_guest|48696 [@TIME=2021-05-31T14:54:22.016Z] PING, tr_guest|48696 [15:55] schestowitz I've just done 30+ min video on LF and Microsoft [15:55] schestowitz we have something on LibreOffice coming after that [15:57] *tr_guest|48696 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:59] schestowitz it dies off [15:59] schestowitz after about 2 minutes of no activity ● May 31 [16:00] schestowitz all the IRC clients I've used other than the web-based one don't have this issue [16:00] schestowitz so I'm not sure where in server config that behavious can be altered [16:00] schestowitz not a universal issue [16:01] schestowitz the sorts of creases we need to sort out before more people flock here [16:05] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:09] *XRevan86 (~root@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:09] *stormchaser3000 (~stormchas@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [16:14] MinceR schestowitz: you can also view the motd via /motd [16:14] MinceR maybe the webclient fails to reply to PINGs [16:14] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [16:14] schestowitz thanks, today I learned ;-) [16:14] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:14] schestowitz MinceR: maybe, but with freenode that does not happen [16:14] schestowitz only with our server [16:15] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [16:15] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:15] schestowitz I did not check with any other irc servers [16:15] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] I did not check with any other irc servers [16:15] schestowitz hi, bridge [16:15] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] hi, bridge [16:15] XRevan86 hehehe [16:15] bridge [XRevan86] hehehe [16:15] MinceR meow [16:15] bridge [MinceR] meow [16:15] XRevan86 The name is work-in-progress. On the freenode side it's a registered nick that I used for GNU social. [16:15] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] The name is work-in-progress. On the freenode side it's a registered nick that I used for GNU social. [16:15] schestowitz wow, it really does work [16:15] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] wow, it really does work [16:16] MinceR meowmeow [16:16] xmpp-gnu [MinceR] meowmeow [16:16] MinceR indeed [16:16] bridge [MinceR] indeed [16:16] schestowitz excellent, staff [16:16] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] excellent, staff [16:16] schestowitz as it stands at the moment, the logs will have duplicate entries [16:16] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] as it stands at the moment, the logs will have duplicate entries [16:16] schestowitz as it fuses together both networks [16:16] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] as it fuses together both networks [16:17] MinceR as long as we have the bridge up, it makes sense to merge the logs and ignore the bridge in them [16:17] bridge [MinceR] as long as we have the bridge up, it makes sense to merge the logs and ignore the bridge in them [16:17] XRevan86 Right, just ignore the bridge nicknames. [16:17] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] Right, just ignore the bridge nicknames. [16:17] schestowitz that is very easy to implement [16:17] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] that is very easy to implement [16:17] schestowitz I can use grep on that term/name [16:17] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] I can use grep on that term/name [16:17] schestowitz grep -r [16:17] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] grep -r [16:18] stormchaser3000 an xmpp room :D [16:18] bridge [stormchaser3000] an xmpp room :D [16:18] stormchaser3000 yay [16:18] bridge [stormchaser3000] yay [16:18] schestowitz whatever works [16:18] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] whatever works [16:18] MinceR it's not an xmpp room [16:18] bridge [MinceR] it's not an xmpp room [16:18] XRevan86 stormchaser3000: No, it's not. Do ye want one? :) [16:18] bridge [XRevan86] stormchaser3000: No, it's not. Do ye want one? :) [16:18] schestowitz Ariadne and a friend of hers work on something afaik [16:18] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] Ariadne and a friend of hers work on something afaik [16:18] stormchaser3000 yeah, might as well [16:18] bridge [stormchaser3000] yeah, might as well [16:18] stormchaser3000 xmpp is a nice protocol [16:18] bridge [stormchaser3000] xmpp is a nice protocol [16:18] schestowitz to make federation of messages across messages easier [16:18] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] to make federation of messages across messages easier [16:18] MinceR until your server dies [16:18] bridge [MinceR] until your server dies [16:18] MinceR and you find a replacement [16:18] bridge [MinceR] and you find a replacement [16:18] stormchaser3000 would be cool to see tox as well [16:18] bridge [stormchaser3000] would be cool to see tox as well [16:18] schestowitz she spoke about this to rasengan the other night... [16:18] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] she spoke about this to rasengan the other night... [16:18] MinceR and that dies too [16:18] bridge [MinceR] and that dies too [16:19] schestowitz techrights is turning 15, so I can trust it now to die [16:19] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] techrights is turning 15, so I can trust it now to die [16:19] schestowitz I'm 39 [16:19] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] I'm 39 [16:19] schestowitz BTW, an hour ago rianne got sad news [16:19] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] BTW, an hour ago rianne got sad news [16:19] stormchaser3000 what happened? [16:19] bridge [stormchaser3000] what happened? [16:19] schestowitz her friend from school died of a stroke [16:19] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] her friend from school died of a stroke [16:19] XRevan86 Ariadne: https://github.com/solanum-ircd/solanum/issues/159 [16:19] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] Ariadne: https://github.com/solanum-ircd/solanum/issues/159 [16:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RELAYMSG support Issue #159 solanum-ircd/solanum GitHub [16:19] -bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr] RELAYMSG support Issue #159 solanum-ircd/solanum GitHub [16:19] schestowitz aged 43 [16:19] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] aged 43 [16:19] stormchaser3000 oh, that's sad [16:19] bridge [stormchaser3000] oh, that's sad [16:20] *stormchaser3000 hates it when that sort of thing happens [16:20] *bridge [stormchaser3000] hates it when that sort of thing happens [16:20] schestowitz at the moment I upload a video about Linux Foundation [16:20] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] at the moment I upload a video about Linux Foundation [16:20] schestowitz will be there soon, eta 1 hour [16:20] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] will be there soon, eta 1 hour [16:21] *rylee has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:21] *rylee (~rylee@gateway/tor-sasl/rylee) has joined #techrights [16:22] stormchaser3000 this is going to start getting annoying... having two networks open [16:22] bridge [stormchaser3000] this is going to start getting annoying... having two networks open [16:22] stormchaser3000 some of the channels that I like have moved to libera [16:22] bridge [stormchaser3000] some of the channels that I like have moved to libera [16:22] schestowitz we don't leave [16:22] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] we don't leave [16:22] schestowitz we just offer an option [16:22] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] we just offer an option [16:22] MinceR i have 11 networks open, it isn't that annoying [16:22] schestowitz at the moment, you miss out on either [16:22] bridge [MinceR] i have 11 networks open, it isn't that annoying [16:22] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] at the moment, you miss out on either [16:22] schestowitz *neither [16:22] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] *neither [16:22] schestowitz depending on the client one uses [16:22] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] depending on the client one uses [16:22] stormchaser3000 ah ok, that's good [16:22] bridge [stormchaser3000] ah ok, that's good [16:23] schestowitz iirc, some android clients don't have multi-network capability [16:23] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] iirc, some android clients don't have multi-network capability [16:23] stormchaser3000 MinceR, until recently, I hadn't used IRC often enough to be used to it XD [16:23] bridge [stormchaser3000] MinceR, until recently, I hadn't used IRC often enough to be used to it XD [16:23] MinceR :) [16:23] bridge [MinceR] :) [16:23] stormchaser3000 I tend to get overloaded when I have too many channels and servers open [16:23] bridge [stormchaser3000] I tend to get overloaded when I have too many channels and servers open [16:23] MinceR another reason to get a VPS and a pinephone and use irssi in dtach over ssh/mosh, i guess :> [16:23] bridge [MinceR] another reason to get a VPS and a pinephone and use irssi in dtach over ssh/mosh, i guess :> [16:23] schestowitz work out the workflow [16:23] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] work out the workflow [16:23] schestowitz I spread the IRC clients into multi-window [16:23] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] I spread the IRC clients into multi-window [16:24] schestowitz so then you see many channels across many screens [16:24] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] so then you see many channels across many screens [16:24] schestowitz and notifications can be configures based on use cases [16:24] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] and notifications can be configures based on use cases [16:24] schestowitz *configured [16:24] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] *configured [16:25] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.246) has joined #techrights [16:25] *XRevan86 (7018dab47d@mate/developer/xrevan86) has left #techrights [16:25] *XRevan86 (~root@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has left #techrights (WeeChat 3.0) [16:25] schestowitz MinceR: sounds like Shells, sort of... [16:25] bridge [schestowitz] MinceR: sounds like Shells, sort of... [16:26] schestowitz the VPS parts.... [16:26] bridge [schestowitz] the VPS parts.... [16:26] MinceR it's not shells :> [16:26] bridge [MinceR] it's not shells :> [16:26] MinceR for me, it's terminator + mosh running on postmarketOS+phosh, not an android application [16:26] bridge [MinceR] for me, it's terminator + mosh running on postmarketOS+phosh, not an android application [16:26] MinceR and the VPS provider is different as well [16:26] bridge [MinceR] and the VPS provider is different as well [16:28] schestowitz reader: "> Hope all is well. I read the OIN article and appreciated the tribute to roblimo. He was a great person!" [16:28] bridge [schestowitz] reader: "> Hope all is well. I read the OIN article and appreciated the tribute to roblimo. He was a great person!" [16:28] schestowitz turns out OIN is falling out of 'grace' [16:28] bridge [schestowitz] turns out OIN is falling out of 'grace' [16:28] schestowitz like LF [16:28] bridge [schestowitz] like LF [16:29] schestowitz too much monopoly influence [16:29] bridge [schestowitz] too much monopoly influence [16:29] schestowitz Microsoft, IBM, Google.. [16:29] bridge [schestowitz] Microsoft, IBM, Google.. [16:29] *XRevan86 (7018dab47d@mate/developer/xrevan86) has joined #techrights [16:33] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:34] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:36] schestowitz > There may be an interesting story there. Maybe not. Most team members at Apache and Documentation Foundation were kind and welcoming while a few (who seemed to have book sales in mind) were not welcoming. [16:36] bridge [schestowitz] > There may be an interesting story there. Maybe not. Most team members at Apache and Documentation Foundation were kind and welcoming while a few (who seemed to have book sales in mind) were not welcoming. [16:36] schestowitz > [16:36] bridge [schestowitz] > [16:37] schestowitz > https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/05/29/get-printed-copies-of-libreoffice-handbooks/ [16:37] bridge [schestowitz] > https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/05/29/get-printed-copies-of-libreoffice-handbooks/ [16:37] schestowitz I am going to need to investigate this with someone who knows AOO better than I know it. [16:37] bridge [schestowitz] I am going to need to investigate this with someone who knows AOO better than I know it. [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Get printed copies of LibreOffice handbooks! - The Document Foundation Blog [16:37] -bridge/#techrights-[TechrightsBot-tr] blog.documentfoundation.org | Get printed copies of LibreOffice handbooks! - The Document Foundation Blog [16:53] XRevan86 > This can be done with m_roleplay module already, can't it? [16:53] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] > This can be done with m_roleplay module already, can't it? [16:53] XRevan86 Ariadne: Can we get that module here? Or is it already here? [16:53] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] Ariadne: Can we get that module here? Or is it already here? [16:55] Ariadne on this ircd, it would be done with RELAYMSG command [16:55] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] on this ircd, it would be done with RELAYMSG command [16:55] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] freenode has no such command [16:55] Ariadne freenode has no such command [16:56] XRevan86 So it is here? [16:56] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] So it is here? [16:57] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:57] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [16:57] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [16:57] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:57] XRevan86 Ariadne: Is it on Libera also? [16:57] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] Ariadne: Is it on Libera also? [16:57] Ariadne no [16:57] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] no [16:58] Ariadne RELAYMSG is only here [16:58] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] RELAYMSG is only here [16:58] XRevan86 My interest stems from https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/blob/v1.22.1/matterbridge.toml.sample#L196 [16:58] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] My interest stems from https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/blob/v1.22.1/matterbridge.toml.sample#L196 [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matterbridge/matterbridge.toml.sample at v1.22.1 42wim/matterbridge GitHub [16:58] *XRevan86 doesn't see a reply from the bot on the freenode side :( [16:58] *xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] doesn't see a reply from the bot on the freenode side :( [16:59] MinceR test [16:59] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [16:59] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:59] MinceR iirc RELAYMSG needs the bot to be opped [16:59] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [16:59] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [16:59] Ariadne yes needs to be opped [16:59] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] yes needs to be opped ● May 31 [17:00] XRevan86 Oh, right. [17:00] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] Oh, right. [17:00] Ariadne but we can op it [17:00] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] but we can op it [17:00] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] My bot wants power! [17:00] XRevan86 My bot wants power! [17:00] Ariadne MinceR: can you op it? :) [17:00] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] MinceR: can you op it? :) [17:00] MinceR just a moment [17:00] xmpp-gnu [MinceR] just a moment [17:00] *MinceR gives channel operator status to bridge [17:00] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:00] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [17:00] Ariadne lol [17:00] Ariadne wtf [17:00] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:00] XRevan86 Except I need to restart it because I disabled RELAYMSG beforehand %). [17:01] *MinceR gives channel operator status to bridge [17:01] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [17:01] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] Except I need to restart it because I disabled RELAYMSG beforehand %). [17:01] MinceR ping [17:01] MinceR still doesn't seem to work [17:01] xmpp-gnu [MinceR] still doesn't seem to work [17:01] MinceR test2 [17:01] techrights-bot A Need for Clarity on the Direction of #LibreOffice http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/inspection-of-tdf-and-of-libreoffice/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/31/inspection-of-tdf-and-of-libreoffice/ [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Need for Clarity on the Direction of LibreOffice | Techrights [17:02] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:02] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [17:02] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [17:02] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:02] XRevan86 MinceR: op it [17:02] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] MinceR: op it [17:02] *MinceR gives channel operator status to bridge [17:02] MinceR spam [17:02] MinceR/irc spam [17:02] MinceR finally works :) [17:02] MinceR/irc finally works :) [17:03] XRevan86 > On most configurations, the RemoteNickFormat must include a separator character such as "/". [17:03] XRevan86 > You should make sure that the settings here match your IRCd. [17:03] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] > On most configurations, the RemoteNickFormat must include a separator character such as "/". [17:03] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] > You should make sure that the settings here match your IRCd. [17:03] Ariadne nice :) [17:03] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] nice :) [17:03] Ariadne i guess change the /irc tag to /fn [17:03] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] i guess change the /irc tag to /fn [17:03] Ariadne or something [17:03] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] or something [17:04] XRevan86 right [17:04] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] right [17:04] XRevan86 I also need to register it for the op to persist. [17:04] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] I also need to register it for the op to persist. [17:04] MinceR and have it register and identify so we can give it auto-op [17:04] xmpp-gnu [MinceR] and have it register and identify so we can give it auto-op [17:04] XRevan86 Great minds think alike. [17:04] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] Great minds think alike. [17:05] schestowitz Small minds think unlike [17:05] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] Small minds think unlike [17:06] MinceR/fn medium-sized minds think orthogonally to each other [17:06] MinceR medium-sized minds think orthogonally to each other [17:06] schestowitz unminds don't think [17:06] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz] unminds don't think [17:06] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:06] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [17:06] Ariadne fwiw i run latest wordpress stable for ariadne.space [17:07] Ariadne with autoupdate [17:07] Ariadne and it runs fine [17:07] Ariadne i learned a lot about optimizing wordpress setting that up [17:07] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [17:07] Ariadne i might port some tweaks over to techrights this weekend [17:07] *bridge_ (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:07] Ariadne make it even faster [17:07] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] make it even faster [17:07] Ariadne :D [17:07] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] :D [17:07] XRevan86 Ariadne: Ye just had to type all that while the bridge was restarting %) [17:07] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] Ariadne: Ye just had to type all that while the bridge was restarting %) [17:07] *MinceR gives channel operator status to bridge_ [17:08] XRevan86 and I think I mistyped the password [17:08] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] and I think I mistyped the password [17:08] XRevan86 while registering, as weechat decided to hide it under asterisks and I was rushing [17:08] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] while registering, as weechat decided to hide it under asterisks and I was rushing [17:08] XRevan86 I don't know the password basically :D [17:08] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] I don't know the password basically :D [17:08] MinceR lol [17:08] xmpp-gnu [MinceR] lol [17:09] XRevan86 oh, no, it works [17:09] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] oh, no, it works [17:09] XRevan86 ah [17:09] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] ah [17:10] *bridge_ has quit (connection closed) [17:10] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:10] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [17:10] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:10] XRevan86 I added SASL credentials but I forgot to *enable* SASL. [17:10] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] I added SASL credentials but I forgot to *enable* SASL. [17:10] *MinceR gives channel operator status to bridge [17:10] Ariadne :D [17:10] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] :D [17:11] MinceR 31 181101 [techrights] -ChanServ(ChanServ@irc.techrights.org)- Successfully set persistent mode +o on bridge [17:11] xmpp-gnu [MinceR] 31 181101 [techrights] -ChanServ(ChanServ@irc.techrights.org)- Successfully set persistent mode +o on bridge [17:12] Ariadne cool [17:12] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] cool [17:12] XRevan86 Very cool. [17:12] XRevan86/fn Very cool. [17:12] MinceR sub-zero [17:12] MinceR/fn sub-zero [17:13] psydroid scorpion [17:13] psydroid/fn scorpion [17:13] schestowitz/fn MK mode now.. [17:13] schestowitz MK mode now.. [17:13] schestowitz it's gonna get a lot less 'cool's when beheadings start [17:13] schestowitz/fn it's gonna get a lot less 'cool's when beheadings start [17:14] MinceR shredder [17:14] MinceR/fn shredder [17:14] MinceR (from OMF 2097) [17:14] MinceR/fn (from OMF 2097) [17:15] schestowitz so it seems like federation across networks is already vastly simpler than I imagined [17:15] schestowitz/fn so it seems like federation across networks is already vastly simpler than I imagined [17:15] schestowitz maybe it can be turned into a selling point for a lesser balkanised IRC space [17:15] schestowitz/fn maybe it can be turned into a selling point for a lesser balkanised IRC space [17:16] schestowitz one of the longstanding arguments against self-hosting IRC is the lack of users, but with bridges people can have two-way bridges to the "big networks" [17:16] schestowitz/fn one of the longstanding arguments against self-hosting IRC is the lack of users, but with bridges people can have two-way bridges to the "big networks" [17:16] XRevan86 schestowitz: Only this server allows for this. [17:16] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] schestowitz: Only this server allows for this. [17:17] schestowitz others can be configured accordingly [17:17] schestowitz/fn others can be configured accordingly [17:17] *irc.techrights.org sets mode +a #techrights MinceR [17:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 60.96 swarm size (avg): 235.29 [17:17] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.68 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 60.96 swarm size (avg): 235.29 [17:19] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:19] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [17:19] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:19] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [17:20] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [17:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: We can actually go even deeper. [17:20] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] schestowitz: We can actually go even deeper. [17:20] XRevan86 And add Libera to the mix too. [17:20] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86] And add Libera to the mix too. [17:20] MinceR there's no need to do that though [17:20] MinceR/fn there's no need to do that though [17:20] XRevan86 Very easy to do. [17:20] XRevan86/fn Very easy to do. [17:20] Ariadne schestowitz: this isn't really federation [17:20] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] schestowitz: this isn't really federation [17:20] MinceR also, can this bot connect to more than 2 networks at the same time [17:20] MinceR/fn also, can this bot connect to more than 2 networks at the same time [17:20] MinceR/fn ? [17:20] MinceR ? [17:21] Ariadne but i think moving for RELAYMSG in ircds is a good idea [17:21] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] but i think moving for RELAYMSG in ircds is a good idea [17:21] Ariadne and i will do so [17:21] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne] and i will do so [17:21] *Achylles (~Achylles@2804:431:d725:7234:8d11:bfc1:f869:7244) has joined #techrights [17:21] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [17:22] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:22] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [17:22] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [17:22] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:22] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [17:23] XRevan86 MinceR: I'm sure someone like superkuh will be very interested in knowing that irc.techrights.org is a thing %). [17:23] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: I'm sure someone like superkuh will be very interested in knowing that irc.techrights.org is a thing %). [17:23] techrights-bot #LinuxFoundation Has Killed the #Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ #kernel #zemlinPAC #microsoft [17:23] techrights-bot/fn #LinuxFoundation Has Killed the #Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/linux-brand-killed-by-lf/ #kernel #zemlinPAC #microsoft [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights [17:23] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Linux Foundation Has Killed the Linux Brand (in Pursuit of Short-Term Profits) | Techrights [17:23] MinceR :) [17:23] MinceR/fn :) [17:23] superkuh/lc Cool bridge, thanks guys. [17:23] xmpp-gnu [superkuh/lc] Cool bridge, thanks guys. [17:24] schestowitz schestowitz: wb [17:24] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] schestowitz: wb [17:24] schestowitz su^ [17:24] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] su^ [17:24] schestowitz wait [17:24] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] wait [17:24] MinceR :) [17:24] MinceR/fn :) [17:24] schestowitz autocomplete fail [17:24] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] autocomplete fail [17:24] MinceR yeah, no nick completion across the bridge [17:24] MinceR/fn yeah, no nick completion across the bridge [17:24] XRevan86 schestowitz: He isn't really here, so no autocomplete. [17:24] *superkuh (~superkuh@vuzt3y2s85me8.irc) has joined #techrights [17:24] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: He isn't really here, so no autocomplete. [17:24] XRevan86 Well, now he is. [17:24] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] Well, now he is. [17:25] schestowitz oh, I see... [17:25] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] oh, I see... [17:25] schestowitz superkuh: wb [17:25] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] superkuh: wb [17:25] superkuh Thanks for tellling me. I manually joined. [17:25] xmpp-gnu [superkuh/tr] Thanks for tellling me. I manually joined. [17:25] superkuh -l [17:25] xmpp-gnu [superkuh/tr] -l [17:26] schestowitz anyone here watching the RMS talk tonight? [17:26] schestowitz/fn anyone here watching the RMS talk tonight? [17:26] schestowitz 7pm ET (US) I think [17:26] schestowitz/fn 7pm ET (US) I think [17:26] MinceR what is it about? [17:26] MinceR/fn what is it about? [17:26] schestowitz Linux is f'ed [17:26] schestowitz/fn Linux is f'ed [17:26] schestowitz MinceR: the usual... [17:26] schestowitz/fn MinceR: the usual... [17:26] schestowitz and can ask him questions over IRC and Matrix [17:26] schestowitz/fn and can ask him questions over IRC and Matrix [17:26] alextee[m] oh? link please [17:26] alextee[m]/fn oh? link please [17:27] schestowitz https://stallman.org/live/stream-debxp-may-31.html [17:27] schestowitz/fn https://stallman.org/live/stream-debxp-may-31.html [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Live de Segunda #80 - Uma conversa com Richard Stallman - May 31, 2021 [17:27] TechrightsBot-tr/fn stallman.org | Live de Segunda #80 - Uma conversa com Richard Stallman - May 31, 2021 [17:27] schestowitz I will make a copy in TR now [17:27] schestowitz/fn I will make a copy in TR now [17:27] alextee[m] schestowitz: thx [17:27] alextee[m]/fn schestowitz: thx [17:27] schestowitz seems like an embedded objects [17:27] schestowitz/fn seems like an embedded objects [17:27] alextee[m] are there any videos of his speech in the UK a few weeks ago? [17:27] alextee[m]/fn are there any videos of his speech in the UK a few weeks ago? [17:28] schestowitz not yet [17:28] schestowitz/fn not yet [17:28] schestowitz https://stallman.org/live/stream-buckingham-may-10.html [17:28] schestowitz/fn https://stallman.org/live/stream-buckingham-may-10.html [17:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Free Software: the Foundation of Freedom in Your Computing - May 10, 2021 [17:28] TechrightsBot-tr/fn stallman.org | Free Software: the Foundation of Freedom in Your Computing - May 10, 2021 [17:28] schestowitz "The live stream has ended; thank you for watching! A video recording may be made available in the coming days/weeks; please check back again later." [17:28] schestowitz/fn "The live stream has ended; thank you for watching! A video recording may be made available in the coming days/weeks; please check back again later." [17:28] alextee[m] yeah [17:28] alextee[m]/fn yeah [17:28] *alextee[m] uploaded an image: (32KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CYcxYOLDGnCEsDtxxZSZSuVH/Screenshot%20from%202021-05-31%2017-28-36.png > [17:28] *alextee[m]/fn uploaded an image: (32KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CYcxYOLDGnCEsDtxxZSZSuVH/Screenshot%20from%202021-05-31%2017-28-36.png > [17:35] XRevan86 What I really like about matterbridge is how it can easily handle an arbitrary amount of endpoints. [17:35] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] What I really like about matterbridge is how it can easily handle an arbitrary amount of endpoints. [17:37] schestowitz alextee[m]: it's not live yet [17:37] schestowitz/fn alextee[m]: it's not live yet [17:37] XRevan86 stormchaser3000: Regarding XMPP, I can easily add a MUC on my server, but is that really a good idea? [17:37] schestowitz I've just mirrored this in TR: [17:37] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] stormchaser3000: Regarding XMPP, I can easily add a MUC on my server, but is that really a good idea? [17:37] schestowitz/fn I've just mirrored this in TR: [17:37] techrights-bot This Page Has Richard Stallmans Talk (11:00PM GMT, Later Today) http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/rms-talk-br/ #Techrights #RMS #FSF #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/31/rms-talk-br/ [17:37] techrights-bot/fn This Page Has Richard Stallmans Talk (11:00PM GMT, Later Today) http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/rms-talk-br/ #Techrights #RMS #FSF #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/31/rms-talk-br/ [17:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Page Has Richard Stallmans Talk (11:00PM GMT, Later Today) | Techrights [17:37] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | This Page Has Richard Stallmans Talk (11:00PM GMT, Later Today) | Techrights [17:38] stormchaser3000 I have no idea... I haven't done much on the server-side with xmpp [17:38] stormchaser3000/fn I have no idea... I haven't done much on the server-side with xmpp [17:39] *xmpp-gnu has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:39] *bridge has quit (connection closed) [17:39] *xmpp-gnu (~xmpp-gnu@meowr.ru) has joined #techrights [17:40] *bridge (~bridge@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [17:40] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to bridge [17:40] XRevan86 "ColorNicks" hm [17:40] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] "ColorNicks" hm [17:40] techrights-bot "How would you react if you were summoned to Oral Proceedings with just 2 months' time left? Especially given the fundamental nature of the decision here, there should absolutely be sufficient time for all parties to prepare the case." #epo #corruption #kangarooCourt #injustice #Europe http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=1622460210381#c7989893880115769926 [17:40] techrights-bot/fn "How would you react if you were summoned to Oral Proceedings with just 2 months' time left? Especially given the fundamental nature of the decision here, there should absolutely be sufficient time for all parties to prepare the case." #epo #corruption #kangarooCourt #injustice #Europe http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/breaking-oral-proceedings-in-g121-vico.html?showComment=16 [17:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat [17:40] techrights-bot/fn 22460210381#c7989893880115769926 [17:40] TechrightsBot-tr/fn ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: Oral proceedings in G1/21 (ViCo) rescheduled due to procedural technicality - The IPKat [17:40] XRevan86 Not sure if that's annoying or not. [17:40] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] Not sure if that's annoying or not. [17:42] MinceR seems nice [17:42] MinceR/fn seems nice [17:42] *Achylles has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:42] techrights-bot Fanatical has some good bundles going right now if you need some new games https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/fanatical-has-some-good-bundles-going-right-now-if-you-need-some-new-games "games that have Linux native builds available." #gnu #linux [17:42] techrights-bot/fn Fanatical has some good bundles going right now if you need some new games https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/fanatical-has-some-good-bundles-going-right-now-if-you-need-some-new-games "games that have Linux native builds available." #gnu #linux [17:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fanatical has some good bundles going right now if you need some new games | GamingOnLinux [17:42] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Fanatical has some good bundles going right now if you need some new games | GamingOnLinux [17:42] psydroid makes it easier to keep them apart [17:42] psydroid/fn makes it easier to keep them apart [17:43] phobos they don't have what I'd want to play [17:43] phobos/fn they don't have what I'd want to play [17:43] phobos not that it matters [17:43] phobos/fn not that it matters [17:43] *Achylles (~Achylles@2804:431:d725:7234:8d11:bfc1:f869:7244) has joined #techrights [17:48] techrights-bot/fn #MakuluLinux Flash 2021- First Look ! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151746#comment-29800 #gnu #linux [17:48] techrights-bot #MakuluLinux Flash 2021- First Look ! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151746#comment-29800 #gnu #linux [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MAKULU CORE 2021 RELEASED ! | Tux Machines [17:48] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | MAKULU CORE 2021 RELEASED ! | Tux Machines [17:49] techrights-bot "Does your Godot-made game or tool (published or work in progress) make you proud? Would you like to showcase it in the upcoming 2021 showreel? Please send us a short video of it!" https://godotengine.org/article/submissions-open-godot-2021-showreel [17:49] techrights-bot/fn "Does your Godot-made game or tool (published or work in progress) make you proud? Would you like to showcase it in the upcoming 2021 showreel? 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down from 5.54% to 4.95% in one single mouth (lost 7 million!) https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/05/31/may-2021-web-server-survey.html [18:03] techrights-bot/fn The #Microsoft collapse in Web #servers continues; down from 5.54% to 4.95% in one single mouth (lost 7 million!) https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/05/31/may-2021-web-server-survey.html [18:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | May 2021 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News [18:03] TechrightsBot-tr/fn news.netcraft.com | May 2021 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News [18:05] XRevan86 They just mean the bots. [18:05] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] They just mean the bots. [18:05] techrights-bot #Phoronix is 4 days younger than #tuxmachines https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Phoronix-17-This-Week [18:05] techrights-bot/fn #Phoronix is 4 days younger than #tuxmachines https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Phoronix-17-This-Week [18:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Phoronix Turns 17 Years Old This Week - Phoronix [18:05] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Phoronix Turns 17 Years Old This Week - Phoronix [18:06] techrights-bot/fn Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151781 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:06] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151781 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:06] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [18:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [18:17] techrights-bot Video archives for the month of May now compete at #techtrights http://techrights.org/videos/index-May-2021.html more coming soon (for June) [18:17] techrights-bot/fn Video archives for the month of May now compete at #techtrights http://techrights.org/videos/index-May-2021.html more coming soon (for June) [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index - May 2021 [18:17] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index - May 2021 [18:18] techrights-bot Video archives for the month of May now complete at #techrights http://techrights.org/videos/index-May-2021.html more coming soon (for June) [18:18] techrights-bot/fn Video archives for the month of May now complete at #techrights http://techrights.org/videos/index-May-2021.html more coming soon (for June) [18:24] BaronVladimirHar https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-edge-91-brings-new-bugs-and-annoying-popup-messages/ [18:24] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-edge-91-brings-new-bugs-and-annoying-popup-messages/ [18:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft Edge 91 brings new bugs and annoying popup messages [18:24] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.bleepingcomputer.com | Microsoft Edge 91 brings new bugs and annoying popup messages [18:24] schestowitz chrome 91 copypaste [18:24] schestowitz/fn chrome 91 copypaste [18:24] schestowitz +more malware [18:24] schestowitz/fn +more malware [18:24] schestowitz annoyance on top of existing annoyance [18:24] schestowitz/fn annoyance on top of existing annoyance [18:24] schestowitz the www is going down the gutter, fast... [18:24] schestowitz/fn the www is going down the gutter, fast... [18:25] superkuh I wonder what these companies will do once they pass version 100. [18:25] xmpp-gnu [superkuh/tr] I wonder what these companies will do once they pass version 100. [18:26] techrights-bot Missing the point that #systemd is NOT an init system but BLOATWARE disguised as or shoehorning itself as "init system" to add #ibm vendor lock-in, dependency hell https://www.fosslife.org/look-linux-init-systems [18:26] techrights-bot/fn Missing the point that #systemd is NOT an init system but BLOATWARE disguised as or shoehorning itself as "init system" to add #ibm vendor lock-in, dependency hell https://www.fosslife.org/look-linux-init-systems [18:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | A Look at Linux Init Systems [18:26] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.fosslife.org | A Look at Linux Init Systems [18:26] schestowitz superkuh: they start counting down of course [18:26] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] superkuh: they start counting down of course [18:26] schestowitz 99x, 98x, 97x [18:26] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] 99x, 98x, 97x [18:26] schestowitz 0 is EoL [18:26] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] 0 is EoL [18:26] schestowitz like MSIE in 2021 [18:26] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] like MSIE in 2021 [18:26] MinceR they just keep counting [18:26] MinceR/fn they just keep counting [18:27] MinceR like systemd did [18:27] MinceR/fn like systemd did [18:27] schestowitz like systemd [18:27] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] like systemd [18:27] schestowitz systemd 200. coming soon. 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[18:27] MinceR it's over 200 already [18:27] MinceR/fn it's over 200 already [18:27] MinceR they wrote on wikipedia that 248 is "stable" (lol) [18:27] MinceR/fn they wrote on wikipedia that 248 is "stable" (lol) [18:27] schestowitz sorry, I last checked a yeat ago ;-) [18:27] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] sorry, I last checked a yeat ago ;-) [18:27] schestowitz *year [18:27] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] *year [18:27] MinceR the churn is real [18:27] MinceR/fn the churn is real [18:28] MinceR "semantic versioning? what's that?" [18:28] MinceR/fn "semantic versioning? what's that?" [18:28] schestowitz don't worry, debian, build it [18:28] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] don't worry, debian, build it [18:28] schestowitz it'll last a few weeks [18:28] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] it'll last a few weeks [18:28] schestowitz until the next bugs [18:28] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] until the next bugs [18:28] MinceR you want to know what the latest stable version is? there isn't one. [18:28] MinceR/fn you want to know what the latest stable version is? there isn't one. [18:28] MinceR you want to know which versions have compatible interfaces? none of them do [18:28] MinceR/fn you want to know which versions have compatible interfaces? none of them do [18:28] MinceR just install the newest everything (including kernel), hold tight and hope it doesn't fall apart [18:28] MinceR/fn just install the newest everything (including kernel), hold tight and hope it doesn't fall apart [18:30] schestowitz it's just systemd anyway [18:30] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] it's just systemd anyway [18:30] schestowitz it's not like the systems will fall apart because of process 0 bugs [18:30] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] it's not like the systems will fall apart because of process 0 bugs [18:30] schestowitz pid eins [18:30] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] pid eins [18:30] schestowitz just restart the process [18:30] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] just restart the process [18:30] schestowitz restart the system [18:30] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] restart the system [18:31] schestowitz hard reboot is needed [18:31] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] hard reboot is needed [18:31] schestowitz it might even boot [18:31] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] it might even boot [18:31] schestowitz https://www.slashgear.com/chrome-crashing-on-windows-10-and-linux-now-has-a-fix-23674140/ [18:31] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] https://www.slashgear.com/chrome-crashing-on-windows-10-and-linux-now-has-a-fix-23674140/ [18:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chrome crashing on Windows 10 and Linux now has a fix - SlashGear [18:31] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Chrome crashing on Windows 10 and Linux now has a fix - SlashGear [18:31] schestowitz lovely [18:31] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] lovely [18:32] schestowitz rockylinux is rocky because it has systemd https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/05/17/the-first-release-candidate-of-rocky-linux-is-here-and-were-excited/ [18:32] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] rockylinux is rocky because it has systemd https://www.hpcwire.com/2021/05/17/the-first-release-candidate-of-rocky-linux-is-here-and-were-excited/ [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com | The First Release Candidate of Rocky Linux is Here And Were Excited [18:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.hpcwire.com | The First Release Candidate of Rocky Linux is Here And Were Excited [18:32] schestowitz but it's based on IBM builds [18:32] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] but it's based on IBM builds [18:32] MinceR "Welcome to emergency mode!" [18:32] MinceR/fn "Welcome to emergency mode!" [18:32] schestowitz which would likely be the most solid ones [18:32] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] which would likely be the most solid ones [18:33] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [18:33] *IroncladCorona (~jon@64.121.152.202) has joined #techrights [18:33] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:33] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:33] *rod_myers (~rodney@99-17-94-233.lightspeed.knvltn.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [18:33] *bagira (~bagira@freenode/staff/phanes) has joined #techrights [18:33] *search_social (~search_so@99-112-18-250.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [18:33] *rasengan (~rasengan@freenode/staff/rasengan) has joined #techrights [18:33] *whytek (~whytek@208.67.252.170) has joined #techrights [18:33] *prurigro (~prurigro@li365-7.members.linode.com) has joined #techrights [18:33] *lockeanarchist (~lockeanar@unaffiliated/deathcrawler) has joined #techrights [18:33] *rsheftel14 (~rsheftel@pool-100-35-139-62.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #techrights [18:33] *v8 (~MurdochW@freenode/staff/v8) has joined #techrights [18:33] *ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has joined #techrights [18:33] *karatkievich.freenode.net gives channel operator status to ChanServ [18:33] *karatkievich.freenode.net gives voice to lockeanarchist rsheftel14 v8 [18:34] techrights-bot This headline is a gross exaggeration https://hackernoon.com/virtual-desktops-the-future-of-computing-or-shellscom-ama-pm3f465k [18:34] techrights-bot/fn This headline is a gross exaggeration https://hackernoon.com/virtual-desktops-the-future-of-computing-or-shellscom-ama-pm3f465k [18:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackernoon.com | Virtual Desktops - The Future of Computing | Shells.com AMA | Hacker Noon [18:34] TechrightsBot-tr/fn hackernoon.com | Virtual Desktops - The Future of Computing | Shells.com AMA | Hacker Noon [18:34] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/FYXfiSO.jpg [18:34] MinceR/fn (cat) https://i.imgur.com/FYXfiSO.jpg [18:36] techrights-bot Valve's GameNetworkingSockets 1.3 Released With Better Performance - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GameNetworkingSockets-1.3 need to #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [18:36] techrights-bot/fn Valve's GameNetworkingSockets 1.3 Released With Better Performance - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GameNetworkingSockets-1.3 need to #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve's GameNetworkingSockets 1.3 Released With Better Performance - Phoronix [18:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [18:36] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Valve's GameNetworkingSockets 1.3 Released With Better Performance - Phoronix [18:37] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights [18:37] techrights-bot Version inflation can break your code https://www.otsukare.info/2021/04/20/ua-three-digits-get-ready [18:37] techrights-bot/fn Version inflation can break your code https://www.otsukare.info/2021/04/20/ua-three-digits-get-ready [18:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.otsukare.info | Get Ready For Three Digits User Agent Strings - otsukare [18:37] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.otsukare.info | Get Ready For Three Digits User Agent Strings - otsukare [18:40] techrights-bot ...the #linux #kernel had a similar issue with 255+ in bugfix release versions. Good luck explaining to imposer 'managers' with no technical experience why version inflation is a technical risk, even if their 'marketing savvy' says otherwise... oh, let's remove "master" too and pray the code won't beak [18:40] techrights-bot/fn ...the #linux #kernel had a similar issue with 255+ in bugfix release versions. Good luck explaining to imposer 'managers' with no technical experience why version inflation is a technical risk, even if their 'marketing savvy' says otherwise... oh, let's remove "master" too and pray the code won't beak [18:42] techrights-bot #Games : #Fanatical , Godot, and Valve http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151782 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:42] techrights-bot/fn #Games : #Fanatical , Godot, and Valve http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151782 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Fanatical, Godot, and Valve | Tux Machines [18:42] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Fanatical, Godot, and Valve | Tux Machines [18:43] techrights-bot #Fedora Community Blog: #Outreachy Interns introduction 2021 Summer https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outreachy-interns-introduction-2021-summer/ #ibm [18:43] techrights-bot/fn #Fedora Community Blog: #Outreachy Interns introduction 2021 Summer https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/outreachy-interns-introduction-2021-summer/ #ibm [18:43] TechrightsBot-tr/fn communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Outreachy Interns introduction - 2021 Summer Fedora Community Blog [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Outreachy Interns introduction - 2021 Summer Fedora Community Blog [18:44] techrights-bot Huawei P50 teased with latest invite for the #HarmonyOS event on June 2 https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p50_teased_with_latest_invite_for_the_harmonyos_event_on_june_2-news-49359.php 2 days from now... [18:44] techrights-bot/fn Huawei P50 teased with latest invite for the #HarmonyOS event on June 2 https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p50_teased_with_latest_invite_for_the_harmonyos_event_on_june_2-news-49359.php 2 days from now... [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Huawei P50 teased with latest invite for the HarmonyOS event on June 2 - GSMArena.com news [18:44] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Huawei P50 teased with latest invite for the HarmonyOS event on June 2 - GSMArena.com news [18:52] BaronVladimirHar One of Microsoft's stated reasons for skipping Windows 9 is that some programs might mistake it for Windows 9x. [18:52] BaronVladimirHar/fn One of Microsoft's stated reasons for skipping Windows 9 is that some programs might mistake it for Windows 9x. [18:52] BaronVladimirHar Marketing skips version numbers though. [18:52] BaronVladimirHar/fn Marketing skips version numbers though. [18:52] MinceR understandable [18:52] MinceR/fn understandable [18:52] MinceR windows culture is an unholy mess [18:52] MinceR/fn windows culture is an unholy mess [18:53] BaronVladimirHar Netscape skipped 5.0. There was a leaked version of Netscape 5 that I found and ran on XP once just to see what it would do. [18:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn Netscape skipped 5.0. There was a leaked version of Netscape 5 that I found and ran on XP once just to see what it would do. [18:53] MinceR also encouraged by microsoft's secret APIs [18:53] MinceR/fn also encouraged by microsoft's secret APIs [18:53] BaronVladimirHar It was an improved Netscape 4 engine, not Gecko. [18:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn It was an improved Netscape 4 engine, not Gecko. [18:53] BaronVladimirHar It crashed a lot and did not support SSL. [18:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn It crashed a lot and did not support SSL. [18:53] BaronVladimirHar So it wasn't very useful. [18:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn So it wasn't very useful. [18:53] BaronVladimirHar But pages with a lot of CSS worked better, provided that they were not served over HTTPS. [18:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn But pages with a lot of CSS worked better, provided that they were not served over HTTPS. [18:54] BaronVladimirHar Someone actually fixed the page reflow issue. [18:54] BaronVladimirHar/fn Someone actually fixed the page reflow issue. [18:57] BaronVladimirHar https://www.autoevolution.com/news/how-google-s-new-killer-google-maps-feature-knows-you-re-braking-hard-162191.html [18:57] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://www.autoevolution.com/news/how-google-s-new-killer-google-maps-feature-knows-you-re-braking-hard-162191.html [18:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Google's New Killer Google Maps Feature Knows You're Braking Hard - autoevolution [18:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn How Google's New Killer Google Maps Feature Knows You're Braking Hard - autoevolution [18:58] techrights-bot Test-driving the #reMarkable 2 on Linux: paper-like or paper-weight? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151783 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:58] techrights-bot/fn Test-driving the #reMarkable 2 on Linux: paper-like or paper-weight? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151783 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Test-driving the reMarkable 2 on Linux: paper-like or paper-weight? | Tux Machines [18:58] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Test-driving the reMarkable 2 on Linux: paper-like or paper-weight? | Tux Machines [18:58] BaronVladimirHar Probably has to use the accelerometer since T-Mobile is such shit and GPS is spotty on Samsung phones. [18:58] BaronVladimirHar/fn Probably has to use the accelerometer since T-Mobile is such shit and GPS is spotty on Samsung phones. [18:58] XRevan86 https://freenode.net/contributing "We're in the process of migrating to Solanum" [18:58] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] https://freenode.net/contributing "We're in the process of migrating to Solanum" [18:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freenode.net | Contributing - freenode [18:58] TechrightsBot-tr/fn freenode.net | Contributing - freenode [18:58] XRevan86 rasengan: Is that still the goal? [18:58] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] rasengan: Is that still the goal? [18:59] Ariadne atheme will not provide support to freenode, and that includes solanum [18:59] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne/tr] atheme will not provide support to freenode, and that includes solanum ● May 31 [19:00] Ariadne but this is really offtopic imo [19:00] xmpp-gnu [Ariadne/tr] but this is really offtopic imo [19:00] psydroid they make you think that you are missing out if you don't work with their tech, but I'd rather become a farmer than deal with their mess [19:00] psydroid/fn they make you think that you are missing out if you don't work with their tech, but I'd rather become a farmer than deal with their mess [19:00] MinceR + [19:00] MinceR/fn + [19:00] XRevan86 Ariadne: I feel like Charybdis wouldn't either, being dead and all. [19:00] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] Ariadne: I feel like Charybdis wouldn't either, being dead and all. [19:01] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [19:02] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [19:02] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [19:03] techrights-bot #intel is, as usual, coming from behind and not catching up anymore https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/31/intel-5g-solution-5000-5g-m-2-module-developed-with-mediatek-fibocom/ they killed themselves by poor hiring decisions: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [19:03] techrights-bot/fn #intel is, as usual, coming from behind and not catching up anymore https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/31/intel-5g-solution-5000-5g-m-2-module-developed-with-mediatek-fibocom/ they killed themselves by poor hiring decisions: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks [19:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Intel 5G Solution 5000 5G M.2 module developed with MediaTek, Fibocom - CNX Software [19:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [19:03] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.cnx-software.com | Intel 5G Solution 5000 5G M.2 module developed with MediaTek, Fibocom - CNX Software [19:03] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights [19:04] kingoffrance ""semantic versioning? what's that?"" lol i kind of thought it was disturbing that needed spelled out with a website, like wasnt that what people were supposed to be doing anyways? seems it was not enough [19:04] kingoffrance/fn ""semantic versioning? what's that?"" lol i kind of thought it was disturbing that needed spelled out with a website, like wasnt that what people were supposed to be doing anyways? seems it was not enough [19:04] BaronVladimirHar I really hate holidays. [19:04] BaronVladimirHar/fn I really hate holidays. [19:04] *niak (~niak@cxvmqnq5hsvha.irc) has joined #techrights [19:05] kingoffrance like, what is a non-semantic versioning? everyone for themselves. that is what libraries that run on top of oses were supposed to be doing anyways [19:05] kingoffrance/fn like, what is a non-semantic versioning? everyone for themselves. that is what libraries that run on top of oses were supposed to be doing anyways [19:05] techrights-bot #DuckDuckGo and #Startpage are BAD advice. BOTH DO SPY on you! https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-privacy-focused-alternatives-google-search/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage and http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [19:05] techrights-bot/fn #DuckDuckGo and #Startpage are BAD advice. BOTH DO SPY on you! https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-privacy-focused-alternatives-google-search/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage and http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [19:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Best Privacy-Focused Alternatives to Google Search - LinuxLinks [19:05] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Best Privacy-Focused Alternatives to Google Search - LinuxLinks [19:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights [19:05] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights [19:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [19:05] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [19:07] phobos So the only alternative according to that site for search is Qwant? Thats pretty sad [19:07] phobos/fn So the only alternative according to that site for search is Qwant? Thats pretty sad [19:07] MinceR dunno, i tend to use searx [19:07] MinceR/fn dunno, i tend to use searx [19:08] MinceR sometimes over Tor [19:08] MinceR/fn sometimes over Tor [19:08] XRevan86 > Unfortunately we are not yet available in your country. [19:08] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] > Unfortunately we are not yet available in your country. [19:08] techrights-bot Get #LibreOffice Handbooks Printed Version http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151665#comment-29802 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/inspection-of-tdf-and-of-libreoffice/ [19:08] techrights-bot/fn Get #LibreOffice Handbooks Printed Version http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151665#comment-29802 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/inspection-of-tdf-and-of-libreoffice/ [19:08] XRevan86 Qwant is so serious about privacy it actually denies access to me. I can respect that %). [19:08] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] Qwant is so serious about privacy it actually denies access to me. I can respect that %). [19:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | TDF Annual Report 2020 | Tux Machines [19:08] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | TDF Annual Report 2020 | Tux Machines [19:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Need for Clarity on the Direction of LibreOffice | Techrights [19:08] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | A Need for Clarity on the Direction of LibreOffice | Techrights [19:09] schestowitz searx, yes [19:09] schestowitz/fn searx, yes [19:10] schestowitz https://searx.feneas.org/search?q=freenode [19:10] schestowitz/fn https://searx.feneas.org/search?q=freenode [19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 429 @ https://searx.feneas.org/search?q=freenode ) [19:10] TechrightsBot-tr/fn ( status 429 @ https://searx.feneas.org/search?q=freenode ) [19:10] phobos huh... a search on qwant for voter fraud reveals that the UK is having a hard time with it [19:10] phobos/fn huh... a search on qwant for voter fraud reveals that the UK is having a hard time with it [19:10] schestowitz this is what I've used for a long time [19:10] schestowitz/fn this is what I've used for a long time [19:10] schestowitz after scroogle was killed [19:10] schestowitz/fn after scroogle was killed [19:11] schestowitz and then ixquick became directly connected to startpage, which sold us all out behind closed doors [19:11] schestowitz/fn and then ixquick became directly connected to startpage, which sold us all out behind closed doors [19:11] phobos but at least its returning something other than that snopes nonsense or links to the media [19:11] phobos/fn but at least its returning something other than that snopes nonsense or links to the media [19:11] schestowitz good search isn't what suits your version of reality [19:11] schestowitz/fn good search isn't what suits your version of reality [19:12] phobos No, its not. [19:12] phobos/fn No, its not. [19:12] phobos Just wanted something that is honest [19:12] phobos/fn Just wanted something that is honest [19:12] phobos not propaganda [19:12] phobos/fn not propaganda [19:12] phobos for either side [19:12] phobos/fn for either side [19:12] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151784 #Linux #TuxMachines [19:12] techrights-bot/fn #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151784 #Linux #TuxMachines [19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:13] phobos/fn I've noticed that even when researching stuff like linux hertz value, the results on duckduckgo have been less and less relevant [19:13] phobos I've noticed that even when researching stuff like linux hertz value, the results on duckduckgo have been less and less relevant [19:14] techrights-bot #RMS talk in less than 4 hours, will be streaming live. http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/rms-talk-br/ #gnu #freesw #fsf [19:14] techrights-bot/fn #RMS talk in less than 4 hours, will be streaming live. http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/rms-talk-br/ #gnu #freesw #fsf [19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | This Page Has Richard Stallmans Talk (11:00PM GMT, Later Today) | Techrights [19:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | This Page Has Richard Stallmans Talk (11:00PM GMT, Later Today) | Techrights [19:14] schestowitz DDG is Microsoft results [19:14] schestowitz/fn DDG is Microsoft results [19:14] schestowitz hosted by Microsoft [19:14] schestowitz/fn hosted by Microsoft [19:14] schestowitz extracted from Microsoft [19:14] schestowitz/fn extracted from Microsoft [19:14] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [19:14] schestowitz/fn http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [19:14] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [19:14] MinceR is there a searx client yet that detects an instance that is dead or blocked by engines and automatically retries with another one? [19:14] MinceR/fn is there a searx client yet that detects an instance that is dead or blocked by engines and automatically retries with another one? [19:17] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [19:17] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [19:19] *XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Gateway shutdown) [19:19] *XRevan86 has quit (Quit: Gateway shutdown) [19:19] techrights-bot New Shows/Videos about GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151785 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:19] techrights-bot/fn New Shows/Videos about GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151785 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Shows/Videos about GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [19:20] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | New Shows/Videos about GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [19:21] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:21] *XRevan86 (~XRevan86@sp6mg7ktjfurg.irc) has joined #techrights [19:22] techrights-bot Linux 5.14 To Have Additional Bring-Up For #Intel Alder Lake M - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Alder-Lake-M-5.14-Patches #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/31/#latest [19:22] techrights-bot/fn Linux 5.14 To Have Additional Bring-Up For #Intel Alder Lake M - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Alder-Lake-M-5.14-Patches #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/31/#latest [19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 To Have Additional Bring-Up For Intel Alder Lake M - Phoronix [19:22] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Linux 5.14 To Have Additional Bring-Up For Intel Alder Lake M - Phoronix [19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:22] TechrightsBot-tr/fn schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:23] *wineroots (f24d257755@gateway/shell/disroot.org/x-oiieztmxsovflfmb) has joined #techrights [19:23] techrights-bot/fn Linux Adding New Thermal Code To Deal With Hot #Tegra Devices - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Thermal-Cooling-Tegra-Devfreq #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/31/#latest [19:23] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Linux Adding New Thermal Code To Deal With Hot Tegra Devices - Phoronix [19:23] techrights-bot Linux Adding New Thermal Code To Deal With Hot #Tegra Devices - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Thermal-Cooling-Tegra-Devfreq #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/31/#latest [19:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Adding New Thermal Code To Deal With Hot Tegra Devices - Phoronix [19:24] techrights-bot #Nyxt Browser is a Keyboard-oriented Web Browser Inspired by #Emacs and #Vim http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151786 #GNU #Linux [19:24] techrights-bot/fn #Nyxt Browser is a Keyboard-oriented Web Browser Inspired by #Emacs and #Vim http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151786 #GNU #Linux [19:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nyxt Browser is a Keyboard-oriented Web Browser Inspired by Emacs and Vim | Tux Machines [19:24] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Nyxt Browser is a Keyboard-oriented Web Browser Inspired by Emacs and Vim | Tux Machines [19:26] techrights-bot #IBM and OSI boosting #microsoft moles and lobbyists of #proprietarySofwtare ... this is so awful on so many levels. OSI is dead. https://opensource.com/article/21/5/upstream-2021 [19:26] techrights-bot/fn #IBM and OSI boosting #microsoft moles and lobbyists of #proprietarySofwtare ... this is so awful on so many levels. OSI is dead. https://opensource.com/article/21/5/upstream-2021 [19:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Join upstream maintainers in this new free online event | Opensource.com [19:26] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Join upstream maintainers in this new free online event | Opensource.com [19:29] techrights-bot OSI is a front group for #proprietarySoftware #openwashing and #monopolies ... Josh Simmons: "hosting alongside our pals at GitHub" (this is a #Microsoft event and OSI sends most of its budget there). [19:29] techrights-bot/fn OSI is a front group for #proprietarySoftware #openwashing and #monopolies ... Josh Simmons: "hosting alongside our pals at GitHub" (this is a #Microsoft event and OSI sends most of its budget there). [19:31] *phobos has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [19:32] techrights-bot "False!!! I work for AWS and make a ton more than what I made at IBM with less stress. Yes, its a job like any other job, but its different." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies [19:32] techrights-bot/fn "False!!! I work for AWS and make a ton more than what I made at IBM with less stress. Yes, its a job like any other job, but its different." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b6fzJWY#replies [19:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | The grass is not greener anywhere? - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:32] techrights-bot Daniel Stenberg: #curl localhost as a local host https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/05/31/curl-localhost-as-a-local-host/ #freesw [19:32] techrights-bot/fn Daniel Stenberg: #curl localhost as a local host https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/05/31/curl-localhost-as-a-local-host/ #freesw [19:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-curl localhost as a local host | daniel.haxx.se [19:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn curl localhost as a local host | daniel.haxx.se [19:34] techrights-bot Not only #fedora does worthless "badges" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies [19:34] techrights-bot/fn Not only #fedora does worthless "badges" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4id1cb#replies [19:34] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | People who are collecting badges - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:36] XRevan86 https://niemarwinget.medium.com/41b3ca598596 [19:36] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] https://niemarwinget.medium.com/41b3ca598596 [19:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-niemarwinget.medium.com | WinGet is terrible. I want AppGet back. | by Niemar Winget | Apr, 2021 | Medium [19:36] TechrightsBot-tr/fn niemarwinget.medium.com | WinGet is terrible. I want AppGet back. | by Niemar Winget | Apr, 2021 | Medium [19:36] techrights-bot We now have a bunch of #proprietarySoftware #monopolies COMPLETING the TAKEOVER of the term #OpenSource so that they can promote mass #surveillance and endless abuses while #openwashing them (they even organise events for this takeovers). Don't say "Open Source" anymore; that term is DEAD! It does NOT mean what it once did... [19:36] techrights-bot/fn We now have a bunch of #proprietarySoftware #monopolies COMPLETING the TAKEOVER of the term #OpenSource so that they can promote mass #surveillance and endless abuses while #openwashing them (they even organise events for this takeovers). Don't say "Open Source" anymore; that term is DEAD! It does NOT mean what it once did... [19:36] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [19:37] techrights-bot #github is NOT open source. GitHub is AGAINST Open Source... unless #proprietarySoftware has been rebranded "Open Source" http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ [19:37] techrights-bot/fn #github is NOT open source. GitHub is AGAINST Open Source... unless #proprietarySoftware has been rebranded "Open Source" http://techrights.org/2020/06/15/confessions-of-scott-guthrie/ [19:37] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights [19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Story About Microsofts Plan for GitHub Says a Lot About the Motivations and the Lies Told to Us for Over Half a Decade | Techrights [19:38] XRevan86 Although the news mention "upgrade" as a winget argument, so this could be out of date (April) or something. [19:38] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] Although the news mention "upgrade" as a winget argument, so this could be out of date (April) or something. [19:39] XRevan86 schestowitz: By the way, there's no topic here. [19:39] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: By the way, there's no topic here. [19:39] techrights-bot/fn #ibm trying to push X users into something that #redhat partly controls, #wayland , even if PRACTICAL benefits are almost NONE https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XWayland-Load-Correct-NV-GLX [19:39] techrights-bot #ibm trying to push X users into something that #redhat partly controls, #wayland , even if PRACTICAL benefits are almost NONE https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XWayland-Load-Correct-NV-GLX [19:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-X.Org Server Git Lands Latest Patches To Help NVIDIA XWayland - Phoronix [19:39] TechrightsBot-tr/fn X.Org Server Git Lands Latest Patches To Help NVIDIA XWayland - Phoronix [19:40] schestowitz Michael is like an Intel salesman https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-i7-1195G7 [19:40] schestowitz/fn Michael is like an Intel salesman https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-i7-1195G7 [19:40] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Intel Launches Core i5-1155G7 + Core i7-1195G7 Tiger Lake Processors - Phoronix [19:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Launches Core i5-1155G7 + Core i7-1195G7 Tiger Lake Processors - Phoronix [19:40] schestowitz no connection to Linux [19:40] schestowitz/fn no connection to Linux [19:40] schestowitz he stopped mentioning clear linux [19:40] schestowitz/fn he stopped mentioning clear linux [19:40] schestowitz maybe Intel's PR budget ran out for it [19:40] schestowitz/fn maybe Intel's PR budget ran out for it [19:41] *schestowitz has changed the topic to: Techrights.org IRC discussions @ localhost | Channel #techrights for http://techrights.org [logged online] :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell for related discussions. [19:41] *Achylles has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:43] techrights-bot Nishit Patel: Beginning my #GSoC Journey http://www.nishitpatel.tech/gsoc #google #bribes #buyingInfluence [19:43] techrights-bot/fn Nishit Patel: Beginning my #GSoC Journey http://www.nishitpatel.tech/gsoc #google #bribes #buyingInfluence [19:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.nishitpatel.tech/gsoc ) [19:43] TechrightsBot-tr/fn ( status 404 @ https://www.nishitpatel.tech/gsoc ) [19:43] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/05/10/morning-funny-pic-dump-5-10-21/ [19:43] MinceR/fn https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/05/10/morning-funny-pic-dump-5-10-21/ [19:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics) [19:43] TechrightsBot-tr/fn pleated-jeans.com | Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics) [19:46] phobos lol [19:47] phobos/fn lol [19:49] techrights-bot #billBC scaremongering again to help its sponsor earn more money from #patents ... BBC: we used to employ and cover up for child molesters... we learned lessons since then... and now we take bribes each year from enabler of Epstein, who trafficked thousands of underage girls for sexual exploitation [19:49] techrights-bot/fn #billBC scaremongering again to help its sponsor earn more money from #patents ... BBC: we used to employ and cover up for child molesters... we learned lessons since then... and now we take bribes each year from enabler of Epstein, who trafficked thousands of underage girls for sexual exploitation [19:49] techrights-bot #GenodeOS 21.05 Released With Webcam Support, Encrypted File Vault https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Genode-OS-21.05-Released [19:49] techrights-bot/fn #GenodeOS 21.05 Released With Webcam Support, Encrypted File Vault https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Genode-OS-21.05-Released [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Genode OS 21.05 Released With Webcam Support, Encrypted File Vault - Phoronix [19:49] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Genode OS 21.05 Released With Webcam Support, Encrypted File Vault - Phoronix [19:53] techrights-bot #billBC : we push the same agenda for the person who bribes us, sans the words "Bill says" in the headlines (just like we distance ourselves from Jimmy Savile after people found out...) [19:53] techrights-bot/fn #billBC : we push the same agenda for the person who bribes us, sans the words "Bill says" in the headlines (just like we distance ourselves from Jimmy Savile after people found out...) [19:53] phobos So... what can be done to fight all this corruption from MS and the patent trolls? [19:53] phobos/fn So... what can be done to fight all this corruption from MS and the patent trolls? [19:55] techrights-bot #Kernel : #NVIDIA Tegra and Intel Alder Lake M http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151787 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:55] techrights-bot/fn #Kernel : #NVIDIA Tegra and Intel Alder Lake M http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151787 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: NVIDIA Tegra and Intel Alder Lake M | Tux Machines [19:55] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: NVIDIA Tegra and Intel Alder Lake M | Tux Machines [19:56] bagira phobos, the FSF coming up with a dual license that makes software free and open source for the users while still preventing corporate trojan horse strategies -- pay to fork [19:56] bagira/fn phobos, the FSF coming up with a dual license that makes software free and open source for the users while still preventing corporate trojan horse strategies -- pay to fork [19:56] phobos In other words, nothing is going to get done about it. I'm well familiar with how hard it is to get the FSF to change stuff like that [19:56] phobos/fn In other words, nothing is going to get done about it. I'm well familiar with how hard it is to get the FSF to change stuff like that [19:57] techrights-bot Release Manager Provides Update on Early Features Requisitions for Leap 15.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151788 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #suse #opensuse [19:57] techrights-bot/fn Release Manager Provides Update on Early Features Requisitions for Leap 15.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151788 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #suse #opensuse [19:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release Manager Provides Update on Early Features Requisitions for Leap 15.4 | Tux Machines [19:57] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Release Manager Provides Update on Early Features Requisitions for Leap 15.4 | Tux Machines [19:57] phobos The Chad Goodman incident showed everyone that back then [19:57] phobos/fn The Chad Goodman incident showed everyone that back then [19:58] bagira phobos, yeah they really need to help out, because big companies can just throw an army of developers at a gnu project until its only maintainable by them and then fork it and obscure the original developer, and then bundle it in proprietary stacks [19:58] bagira/fn phobos, yeah they really need to help out, because big companies can just throw an army of developers at a gnu project until its only maintainable by them and then fork it and obscure the original developer, and then bundle it in proprietary stacks [19:58] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: By the way, regarding logging, now that RELAYMSG is used, ignoring a bot is no longer a solution. [19:58] XRevan86 schestowitz: By the way, regarding logging, now that RELAYMSG is used, ignoring a bot is no longer a solution. [19:58] schestowitz which one? [19:58] xmpp-gnu [schestowitz/tr] which one? [19:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: Well, the nicknames are harder to tell apart now. [19:59] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] schestowitz: Well, the nicknames are harder to tell apart now. [19:59] XRevan86 On irc.techrights.org [19:59] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] On irc.techrights.org ● May 31 [20:00] XRevan86 Maybe by grepping out nicknames that end on "/fn" and "/lc" and then manually fixing the earlier iterations. [20:00] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] Maybe by grepping out nicknames that end on "/fn" and "/lc" and then manually fixing the earlier iterations. [20:02] *bruhstrone has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:03] *bruhstrone (~bruhstron@gateway/tor-sasl/bruhstrone) has joined #techrights [20:07] MinceR or he can just use the logs from here [20:07] MinceR/fn or he can just use the logs from here [20:07] MinceR RELAYMSG is not used on this side [20:07] MinceR/fn RELAYMSG is not used on this side [20:07] MinceR never mind [20:07] MinceR/fn never mind [20:07] XRevan86 MinceR: Um, if logs are to be used from only one side, it should be the side with RELAYMSG %) [20:07] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: Um, if logs are to be used from only one side, it should be the side with RELAYMSG %) [20:08] MinceR :) [20:08] MinceR/fn :) [20:10] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/tweets-of-the-week-05-07-21-15.png [20:10] MinceR/fn https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/tweets-of-the-week-05-07-21-15.png [20:10] XRevan86 (and disregard the mention of "/lc", that side is not separately logged either way) [20:10] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] (and disregard the mention of "/lc", that side is not separately logged either way) [20:11] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151792 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:11] techrights-bot/fn Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151792 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:11] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [20:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [20:12] techrights-bot #IBM /Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151791 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:12] techrights-bot/fn #IBM /Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151791 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:12] XRevan86 MinceR: That's good stuff :) [20:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:12] xmpp-gnu [XRevan86/tr] MinceR: That's good stuff :) [20:12] techrights-bot #FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151790 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:12] techrights-bot/fn #FreeSoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151790 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:12] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:13] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151789 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:13] techrights-bot/fn #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151789 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:13] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:13] techrights-bot Links 31/5/2021: Firefox 89 and Public Holidays http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/firefox-89/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/31/firefox-89/ [20:13] techrights-bot/fn Links 31/5/2021: Firefox 89 and Public Holidays http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/firefox-89/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/31/firefox-89/ [20:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 31/5/2021: Firefox 89 and Public Holidays | Techrights [20:13] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | Links 31/5/2021: Firefox 89 and Public Holidays | Techrights [20:19] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CHczv-wHqo [20:19] MinceR/fn (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CHczv-wHqo [20:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cat meowing like a stutterer is unbelievably cute - YouTube [20:19] TechrightsBot-tr/fn Cat meowing like a stutterer is unbelievably cute - YouTube [20:23] techrights-bot #ibm #astroturing the #layoffs boards? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4fzaXo#replies [20:23] techrights-bot/fn #ibm #astroturing the #layoffs boards? https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b4fzaXo#replies [20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Call out to Summit Hires - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:23] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.thelayoff.com | Call out to Summit Hires - post regarding IBM layoffs [20:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [20:31] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 84.48 swarm size (avg): 235.33 [20:31] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.76 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 84.48 swarm size (avg): 235.33 [20:32] techrights-bot "No, there is no fee reduction for filing DOCX documents. The (further) reduction of the filing fee (and some other fees) for DOCX filing has been abolished. For more information about this, see the EPO Official Journal, e.g. OJ EPO 2019, A6." https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210531.html [20:32] techrights-bot/fn "No, there is no fee reduction for filing DOCX documents. The (further) reduction of the filing fee (and some other fees) for DOCX filing has been abolished. For more information about this, see the EPO Official Journal, e.g. OJ EPO 2019, A6." https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20210531.html [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Decommissioning of online filing (CMS) with effect from 1 January 2022 [20:32] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.epo.org | EPO - Decommissioning of online filing (CMS) with effect from 1 January 2022 [20:33] techrights-bot In #uspto they penalise people for not using #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ [20:33] techrights-bot/fn In #uspto they penalise people for not using #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software (Updatedx2) | Techrights [20:33] TechrightsBot-tr/fn techrights.org | USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software (Updatedx2) | Techrights ● May 31 [21:15] *rod_myers (~rodney@99-17-94-233.lightspeed.knvltn.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights ("Leaving.") [21:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 35.70 swarm size (avg): 235.38 [21:17] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 35.70 swarm size (avg): 235.38 [21:22] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [21:23] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/ISmrXej.png [21:23] MinceR/fn https://i.imgur.com/ISmrXej.png [21:47] *tagglink (~tagglink@ua-84-216-129-48.bbcust.telenor.se) has joined #techrights [21:50] phobos MinceR: I'm adding that one to my collection of BSOD signs :D [21:50] phobos/fn MinceR: I'm adding that one to my collection of BSOD signs :D [21:50] MinceR :) [21:50] MinceR/fn :) [21:53] BaronVladimirHar https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/illinois-bill-bans-police-from-lying-during-questioning [21:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/illinois-bill-bans-police-from-lying-during-questioning [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | Illinois bill bans police from lying during questioning [21:53] TechrightsBot-tr/fn www.fox32chicago.com | Illinois bill bans police from lying during questioning [21:53] BaronVladimirHar But only to minors. [21:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn But only to minors. [21:53] BaronVladimirHar They can keep lying to everyone over 18. [21:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn They can keep lying to everyone over 18. [21:53] phobos Was wondering about that... after all, cops are paid to lie [21:53] phobos/fn Was wondering about that... after all, cops are paid to lie ● May 31 [22:09] BaronVladimirHar https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/illinois-passes-bill-to-stop-the-police-from-lying-but-only-to-minors/ [22:09] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/illinois-passes-bill-to-stop-the-police-from-lying-but-only-to-minors/ [22:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Illinois passes bill to stop the police from lying, but only to minors. BaronHK's Rants [22:09] TechrightsBot-tr/fn baronhk.wordpress.com | Illinois passes bill to stop the police from lying, but only to minors. BaronHK's Rants [22:17] BaronVladimirHar They might not even stop lying to minors, because the police aren't very used to being punished even when they have clearly broken a law. [22:17] BaronVladimirHar/fn They might not even stop lying to minors, because the police aren't very used to being punished even when they have clearly broken a law. [22:27] phobos makes sense... laws for thee but not for me [22:27] phobos/fn makes sense... laws for thee but not for me [22:49] BaronVladimirHar https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/pouring-half-your-coffee-down-the-kitchen-sink-would-still-be-cheaper-than-buying-keurig-k-cups-would-you-like-a-felony-with-your-coffee/ [22:49] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/pouring-half-your-coffee-down-the-kitchen-sink-would-still-be-cheaper-than-buying-keurig-k-cups-would-you-like-a-felony-with-your-coffee/ [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Pouring half your coffee down the kitchen sink would still be cheaper than buying Keurig K-Cups. Would you like a felony with your coffee? BaronHK's Rants [22:49] TechrightsBot-tr/fn baronhk.wordpress.com | Pouring half your coffee down the kitchen sink would still be cheaper than buying Keurig K-Cups. Would you like a felony with your coffee? BaronHK's Rants [22:52] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:52] BaronVladimirHar I've noticed that after all of the corporate consolidation in the past year, and the wave of bankruptcy that the news has stopped discussing, that prices at Walmart have gone up way faster than anywhere else. [22:52] BaronVladimirHar/fn I've noticed that after all of the corporate consolidation in the past year, and the wave of bankruptcy that the news has stopped discussing, that prices at Walmart have gone up way faster than anywhere else. [22:53] BaronVladimirHar I went to Mariano's the other day, which is usually the expensive store, and prices on stuff at Walmart have gone up to the point where there's just not a lot of difference. [22:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn I went to Mariano's the other day, which is usually the expensive store, and prices on stuff at Walmart have gone up to the point where there's just not a lot of difference. [22:53] BaronVladimirHar We're talking about pennies at this point. [22:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn We're talking about pennies at this point. [22:53] BaronVladimirHar That's not surprising, I guess. Mariano's already had more markup and they may have decided to eat some of the inflation to stop their customers from giving up and going elsewhere. [22:53] BaronVladimirHar/fn That's not surprising, I guess. Mariano's already had more markup and they may have decided to eat some of the inflation to stop their customers from giving up and going elsewhere. [22:54] BaronVladimirHar I suppose Walmart's thinking is as long as they manage to undercut the rest, even by an infinitesimal amount, they can keep a certain segment shopping there. [22:54] BaronVladimirHar/fn I suppose Walmart's thinking is as long as they manage to undercut the rest, even by an infinitesimal amount, they can keep a certain segment shopping there. [22:55] BaronVladimirHar schestowitz: I'm considering going over to scout out a neighborhood grocery that was recommended by an older fellow who lives in our building. [22:55] BaronVladimirHar/fn schestowitz: I'm considering going over to scout out a neighborhood grocery that was recommended by an older fellow who lives in our building. [22:57] BaronVladimirHar I miss how things used to be before Walmart stormed every neighborhood. The town I grew up in is still small enough that a rural Indiana grocery chain still manages to do business there. If you can strategically position your stores out in the middle of nowhere, where Walmart isn't around for miles, you still have a business plan. [22:57] BaronVladimirHar/fn I miss how things used to be before Walmart stormed every neighborhood. The town I grew up in is still small enough that a rural Indiana grocery chain still manages to do business there. If you can strategically position your stores out in the middle of nowhere, where Walmart isn't around for miles, you still have a business plan. [22:57] BaronVladimirHar Otherwise, forget it. [22:57] BaronVladimirHar/fn Otherwise, forget it. [22:58] BaronVladimirHar The cost of firing up the car and heading 10+ miles to the nearest Walmart isn't really worth it for most, and so there's an opportunity there. Walmart's strategy of designing smaller grocery-only stores to put in places like Chicago where nothing bigger would fit, has mostly ended in failure. [22:58] BaronVladimirHar/fn The cost of firing up the car and heading 10+ miles to the nearest Walmart isn't really worth it for most, and so there's an opportunity there. Walmart's strategy of designing smaller grocery-only stores to put in places like Chicago where nothing bigger would fit, has mostly ended in failure. [22:59] BaronVladimirHar It's not the growth business that their former executives thought it would be, and I'm figuring that's a lot of why they are former executives. [22:59] BaronVladimirHar/fn It's not the growth business that their former executives thought it would be, and I'm figuring that's a lot of why they are former executives. ● May 31 [23:00] BaronVladimirHar When I lived in Chicago, I just had no choice to go to Walmart. Getting 10 miles through city traffic is like an hour. There's a grocery on the corner. [23:00] BaronVladimirHar/fn When I lived in Chicago, I just had no choice to go to Walmart. Getting 10 miles through city traffic is like an hour. There's a grocery on the corner. [23:01] BaronVladimirHar Chicago is a bad fit for them for a lot of reasons. Cheap locations and low wages have been the cornerstone of their business model since the 60s. [23:01] BaronVladimirHar/fn Chicago is a bad fit for them for a lot of reasons. Cheap locations and low wages have been the cornerstone of their business model since the 60s. [23:01] BaronVladimirHar And they're just starting to get past that. [23:01] BaronVladimirHar/fn And they're just starting to get past that. [23:03] *wineroots has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:03] BaronVladimirHar MinceR: I managed to figure out what the cause of that popping noise under the hood of the car was. Of all things, it was pinging caused by a dirty $8 air filter. [23:03] BaronVladimirHar/fn MinceR: I managed to figure out what the cause of that popping noise under the hood of the car was. Of all things, it was pinging caused by a dirty $8 air filter. [23:03] BaronVladimirHar Of course, the computer was of no help at all. No lights, no codes, nothing. [23:03] BaronVladimirHar/fn Of course, the computer was of no help at all. No lights, no codes, nothing. [23:04] BaronVladimirHar Amazon mislabeled the coffee and binned it wrong at the warehouse. [23:04] BaronVladimirHar/fn Amazon mislabeled the coffee and binned it wrong at the warehouse. [23:05] MinceR ex-ecutives [23:05] MinceR/fn ex-ecutives [23:05] BaronVladimirHar So they sent me the wrong type. Might be a while until I get to try Daniel Jackson's (SG-1) favorite. [23:05] BaronVladimirHar/fn So they sent me the wrong type. Might be a while until I get to try Daniel Jackson's (SG-1) favorite. [23:07] BaronVladimirHar/fn Air filter plugged. Car warms up and when the temperature gauge reads full operating temperature and you step on the accelerator, it sounds like popcorn. [23:07] BaronVladimirHar Air filter plugged. Car warms up and when the temperature gauge reads full operating temperature and you step on the accelerator, it sounds like popcorn. [23:07] BaronVladimirHar So that problem is solved. [23:07] BaronVladimirHar/fn So that problem is solved. [23:10] BaronVladimirHar Sam's Club has treadmills on sale. Most leases say no treadmills. [23:10] BaronVladimirHar/fn Sam's Club has treadmills on sale. Most leases say no treadmills. [23:10] BaronVladimirHar This one didn't, but I don't want to have one and then try to move and find out it's in the new lease. [23:10] BaronVladimirHar/fn This one didn't, but I don't want to have one and then try to move and find out it's in the new lease. [23:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 68.11 swarm size (avg): 235.41 [23:17] techrights-ipfs/fn IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 68.11 swarm size (avg): 235.41 [23:18] BaronVladimirHar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FENubmZGj8 [23:18] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FENubmZGj8 [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"You Have the Right to Remain Innocent" (James Duane) - YouTube [23:18] TechrightsBot-tr/fn "You Have the Right to Remain Innocent" (James Duane) - YouTube [23:19] BaronVladimirHar schestowitz: 12:36 is basically what happened to Rick Jones. [23:19] BaronVladimirHar/fn schestowitz: 12:36 is basically what happened to Rick Jones. [23:20] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:24] MinceR (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/17/63dbe7fb2eaf7ceb.jpg [23:24] MinceR/fn (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/17/63dbe7fb2eaf7ceb.jpg [23:40] BaronVladimirHar https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/chicago-gives-us-a-good-look-at-the-notion-that-violent-felons-need-therapy-or-why-cook-county-chief-judge-timothy-c-evans-is-a-complete-moron/ [23:40] BaronVladimirHar/fn https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/chicago-gives-us-a-good-look-at-the-notion-that-violent-felons-need-therapy-or-why-cook-county-chief-judge-timothy-c-evans-is-a-complete-moron/ [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Chicago gives us a good look at the notion that violent felons need therapy or why Cook County Chief Judge Timothy C. Evans is a complete moron. BaronHK's Rants [23:40] TechrightsBot-tr/fn baronhk.wordpress.com | Chicago gives us a good look at the notion that violent felons need therapy or why Cook County Chief Judge Timothy C. Evans is a complete moron. BaronHK's Rants [23:40] BaronVladimirHar "White people fear the cops because nothing happens if the cop shoots you, you will be held accountable, and the entire system goes into overdrive trying to over-charge and falsely convict you." [23:40] BaronVladimirHar/fn "White people fear the cops because nothing happens if the cop shoots you, you will be held accountable, and the entire system goes into overdrive trying to over-charge and falsely convict you." [23:42] BaronVladimirHar "Certainly, nobody will riot and set an entire city on fire and say they're getting justice for you by picking the local Walmarts clean down to the last pack of AA batteries." [23:42] BaronVladimirHar/fn "Certainly, nobody will riot and set an entire city on fire and say they're getting justice for you by picking the local Walmarts clean down to the last pack of AA batteries." [23:46] *Glyphie44____ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:51] *Glyphie44____ (sid163528@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cftjtlpwwjramtre) has joined #techrights [23:54] MinceR https://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Batman-begins.jpg [23:54] MinceR/fn https://www.engrish.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Batman-begins.jpg