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Pushers of systemd Rewrite History (Richard Stallman Said UNIX "Was Portable and Seemed Fairly Clean")

posted by Roy Schestowitz on Jul 27, 2025,
updated Jul 27, 2025

Unlike systemd

Months ago: Richard Stallman and the Unix Philosophy ("Does RMS still believe in the Unix way of building things? Yes. He's routinely asked about this, but freedom matters to him more than pertinent functionality being atomic. [...] To be more specific, what RMS would typically say about systemd (if asked) is related to its licence or the ability to fork it (even if it's way too monolithic, releases are too frequent, and several other factors discourage any effective forking). Sometimes clarifications are needed as to what exactly he said because we keep hearing stuff like, "RMS never talks about it"; he does actually, typically because people keep asking after his talks (questions and answers). The GNU and FSF sites do not have a more formal or official statement though; they do not speak about this project directly, even if it feels like they sometimes talk about the general theme/s. The reason why RMS is caught in the middle, in case it's not obvious, is that the project (systemd and others like it) undermines the idea or the talking point about the licence being sufficient to ensure users' freedom. It would seem like double standard to disown it, set aside the issue of IBM's financial strings (now tied together to Red Hat's).")

We covered this topic before, but we keep seeing "Misinformation in Social Control Media" (about Richard Stallman), so we feel a need to correct it.

What Microsoft (or IBM) systemd apologists say or said in Phoronix in recent days: (there are already some rebuttals to that)

Nope. That would be the GNU project. There is nothing in RMS's Four Freedoms, the FSF's policies or the history of GNU that remotely resembles the idea that everything must be implemented using broken shell scripts. Stallman himself is on record saying that he's not particularly fond of Unix, and Torvalds is on record saying that he doesn't give a flying crap about it, being neither for or against it. Originally GNU was supposed to be a Lisp-based environment. The only reason Stallman grudgingly decided to follow Unix was not because of any presumed 'simpleness', but because at the time it was the only OS that successfully supported multiple CPU architectures. Stallman didn't want to repeat the experience when his beloved ITS platform and its community fell apart once the hardware it ran on went out of production, so he wanted GNU to be able to run on various hardware as an insurance against that fate.

We keep hearing this. 4 years ago someone in Reddit said: "Except Stallman doesn't really give many sh*ts about Unix. He is from Lisp Machines culture which was ideologically very different. Plus whole GNU Not Unix thing."

"GNU Not Unix thing" is a recursive acronym joke and the over-encompassing goal or idea is, it ought to imitate the original.

Here is what he himself wrote: "I never used Unix (not even for a minute) until after I decided to develop a free replacement for it (the GNU system). I chose that design to follow because it was portable and seemed fairly clean. I was never a fan of Unix; I had some criticisms of it too. But it was ok overall as a model."

So Richard Stallman said UNIX was "portable and seemed fairly clean."

It was also modular, which made developing GNU a lot easier (piecewise).

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