Bonum Certa Men Certa

IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: August 29th, 2008

Enter the IRC channel now





MinceRthat too.Aug 29 00:00
twitterIt's like the fight against tobacco.  You would expect people who diss science to be smokers not tri-athletes.Aug 29 00:01
schestowitzI'm going through COLA at the moment. The Munchkins do some revisionist on Microsoft fraud. Grrrrrrrr.......Aug 29 00:02
schestowitz*revisionism Aug 29 00:02
*trmanco has quit ("I just hit the close button :)")Aug 29 00:15
*Tallken (i=f2f93bf5@93.102.64.171.rev.optimus.pt) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 00:15
*Tallken has quit ("poff")Aug 29 00:23
twitterYou could always tell Byfield that the only way he can get to zero credibility is to tell you he uses Windows as his home OS.  In one of his rants against you, he said he'd be proud to reach zero.Aug 29 00:28
schestowitzWhich rant?Aug 29 00:29
MinceRthe one about your credibility listAug 29 00:47
schestowitzHe should spend time writing good article rather than complain about it. :-) His technical articles are brilliant, but the ones about Microsoft stuff are another matter.Aug 29 00:52
*libervisco_ (n=daniel@78-0-83-202.adsl.net.t-com.hr) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 03:12
*libervisco has quit (Nick collision from services.)Aug 29 03:17
*libervisco_ is now known as liberviscoAug 29 03:17
schestowitzRMS just told about Miguel that "Miguel has been no supporter of the free software movement since around 2002.  He often says things that support the Microsoft line." It's interesting that he lost trust in him completely (by association, perhaps he realise that Novell too "supports the Microsoft line").Aug 29 08:01
schestowitzNovell mob at ItWire? http://www.itwire.com/content... Aug 29 08:47
schestowitzHow come he gets slammed in the ratings? http://boycottnovell.com/2... Just in: Net loss at $15 million, claims Novell < http://www.networkworld.com/news/... >. They commit fraud, like Microsoft. Will post about it shortly.Aug 29 08:48
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.p...Aug 29 09:16
zoobabpongAug 29 09:53
schestowitzIt's unlikely to make FP, but the campaign is promoted in Digg now: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Supp...Aug 29 09:55
*moparx has quit ("leaving")Aug 29 10:50
*trmanco (n=trmanco@bl5-133-75.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 10:50
trmancohttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HNEge4YfF5g...Aug 29 11:19
schestowitzShouldn't 7 be in a jar?Aug 29 11:20
trmancowell yesAug 29 11:21
trmancobut we must wait until its "finally" releasedAug 29 11:21
trmancohttp://www.linuxworld.com.au/index...Aug 29 11:22
schestowitzOh, I get is. DoA.Aug 29 11:22
schestowitz*itAug 29 11:22
schestowitzYes, I was going to write about it in a moment.Aug 29 11:22
trmancoyes something like thatAug 29 11:24
trmancohttp://blogs.computerworld.com/r_i_p_exchangeAug 29 11:24
schestowitzIt's a long post, so I'll need to think about it.Aug 29 11:24
schestowitzYes, seen that too.Aug 29 11:25
schestowitzSJVN was an E-mail engineer for many years, so he knows that stuff.Aug 29 11:25
schestowitzPostPath is non-Free software, but it uses CentOS in some cases. It's more power to Linux.Aug 29 11:25
*_Doug (n=emacsuse@78-105-5-61.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 12:51
*Received a CTCP PING 1220011204 from _DougAug 29 12:55
*Received a DCC CHAT offer from _DougAug 29 12:55
*_Doug has quit (Client Quit)Aug 29 12:55
*DCC CHAT connect attempt to _Doug failed (err=No route to host).Aug 29 13:01
*mib_3h4ih0 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")Aug 29 13:24
*mib_3h4ih0 (i=43f0d869@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-af13562fed863170) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 13:29
*Tallken (i=f2f93bf5@78.130.8.183.rev.optimus.pt) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 13:38
mib_3h4ih0Hi. newb back. What is "COLA", what is "ROLF"?Aug 29 13:40
MinceRCOLA is comp.os.linux.advocacyAug 29 13:45
MinceRdunno about ROLFAug 29 13:45
schestowitzMe neither.Aug 29 13:47
mib_3h4ih0Thank you. My Dad is teaching me the other side of computing. He says go to #BN and read/listen to the guys in the know.Aug 29 13:49
MinceR:)Aug 29 13:51
*PetoKraus has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))Aug 29 13:55
schestowitz:-)Aug 29 13:57
trmanconiceAug 29 13:58
schestowitzI've just taken a hit at NOVL (they showed their Achilles heel). Posted seconds ago: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/08...Aug 29 13:59
mib_3h4ih0In the post picture, is that USS Novell or RMS Novell?  Is novell a US, British company?Aug 29 14:27
MinceRlol & RMS NovellAug 29 14:30
schestowitzThe photo is from Wiki Media, where it is filed (GPL  licensed of public domain) under the name: USS_Towers_DDG-9_sinking.jpgAug 29 14:33
*Tallken has quit ("paff")Aug 29 14:41
schestowitzhttp://www.channelregister.co.uk/...   "But this was turned into a loss of $15m for the period because of a debt write-off"    DEBT?Aug 29 15:09
MinceRs/\&/@/Aug 29 15:10
MinceRi knew something was off with what i saidAug 29 15:10
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/0...Aug 29 15:22
schestowitz"This week, the promise was broken. It lasted less than six months. Now that Internet Explorer IE8 beta 2 is released, we know that many, if not most, pages viewed in IE8 will not be shown in standards mode by default." And people should trust Microsoft with ODF?Aug 29 15:22
MinceRpeople should trust microsoft with anything?Aug 29 15:23
schestowitzAsk Novell. It'll kiss Microsoft's and say "yes".Aug 29 15:24
MinceRpeople should trust novell with anything?Aug 29 15:25
schestowitzNovell = Microsoft's pseudo-alter-ego. When Microsoft needs a nod from its 'competitors' (e.g. Novell) it calls Novell in for some praise. Y'Know, keep those 'obnoxious' people like Neelie away...Aug 29 15:25
schestowitzGuess who's afraid of ODF? http://www.mmegi.bw/index.php?...Aug 29 15:34
schestowitzJohn Halamka, who claims to be a GNU/Linux supporter, is now giving Microsoft copies of potentially millions of health records of people. How clueless! People should be furious at him. http://www.masshightech.com/stories/200...Aug 29 15:49
schestowitzAnother patent strike from Microsoft (it's an offender/abuser, not a victim of the system): http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/busin...Aug 29 16:00
schestowitzhttp://www.cio.com/article/446372/Micr...   "Blitz" = "Slog" (The typical shills like Yankee Group are already at it) <  http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf >Aug 29 16:11
*mib_3h4ih0 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")Aug 29 16:34
*mib_g7349c (i=43f0d869@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bbc64f2d6084b9d3) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 16:36
*benJIman (n=benji@benjiweber.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 18:27
*_Doug (i=c17a2faa@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-1e901160a72ce739) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 18:38
_DougSchestowitz ?Aug 29 18:38
schestowitzHey, _Doug . What's up?Aug 29 18:39
_DougNothing much, I see you cannot uninstall IE 8 and it crashes other software ..Aug 29 18:39
_Doughttp://computerworld.com/action/article.d...Aug 29 18:40
_Doug. "If you install Internet Explorer 8 Beta 2, Windows Live Mail will crash when you create or reply to an e-mail message,"Aug 29 18:41
schestowitzYes, I saw some reports and I was going to write about it tonight.Aug 29 18:41
schestowitzThe standards issue is more serious, as well as SP3 lock-in and new incompatibilities.Aug 29 18:42
_DougIt must mean that IExplore is still welded to the OS ..Aug 29 18:42
schestowitzYes, was it required to stop?Aug 29 18:42
_DougCan't even have two versions running ..Aug 29 18:42
schestowitzUnless you use GNU/LinuxAug 29 18:43
_Dougrequired to stop? - no - but I thought it was 'sandboxed' ?Aug 29 18:43
schestowitzhttp://yro.slashdot.org/article... : Will W3C Accept DRM For Webfonts?Aug 29 18:43
_Dougtwo versions: yea, just how difficult is it, just copy to a seperate folder ..Aug 29 18:43
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/2... : Microsoft breaks IE8 interoperability promiseAug 29 18:43
_DougWebfonts? what's this about ?Aug 29 18:44
schestowitz_Doug: Microsoft has a new site. Kind of Like 'OpenXML fan base'...Aug 29 18:44
schestowitz"Slimy campaign" indeed. Glorification of DRM and IE.Aug 29 18:44
_DougI mean does Ms own them ?Aug 29 18:44
_DougAnd if so what are they doing in an 'open' standard ?Aug 29 18:45
schestowitzDuh.Aug 29 18:45
schestowitzTo 'unopen' it.Aug 29 18:45
schestowitzIE-only feechure.Aug 29 18:45
_DougThey've stuck DRM in fonts ??? 101011010 1011010101010 1010101101010101 .. it is illegal to look at these bits .. :)Aug 29 18:47
_DougIs there a shortage of fonts out there ?Aug 29 18:47
_DougOh look .. they put the word 'open' in the name .. Embedded OpenTypeAug 29 18:48
_DougEmbedded DRMType . .shurly .. burp .. :0Aug 29 18:48
schestowitzHeh.Aug 29 18:48
schestowitzThey like misusing the work 'open'.Aug 29 18:48
_DougPM roy ?Aug 29 18:49
schestowitz"Independent" also.Aug 29 18:49
schestowitz?Aug 29 18:49
schestowitzOhAug 29 18:49
_Doug"How Can Nerds Make a Difference In November?" slashdot asks ..Aug 29 18:53
_Douganswer: none ..Aug 29 18:53
_DougGary McKinnon on the way to GitMo .. how sad .. :(Aug 29 18:55
schestowitzHehe. CHeck this out: http://getyourdrugon.com/Aug 29 18:57
_Dougblank here ..Aug 29 18:59
schestowitzEnable JS.Aug 29 19:00
_Dougf***ed system .. will take a look later ..Aug 29 19:00
*_Doug has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")Aug 29 19:01
*_Doug (i=c17a2faa@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-08901356bad09db7) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 19:01
_DougWha' ...Aug 29 19:01
schestowitzJavascript and FlashAug 29 19:04
_DougCustoms raids tech trade showAug 29 19:04
schestowitzYes, seen it.Aug 29 19:04
_Doughttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/cus...Aug 29 19:04
_Dougpatent firm Sisvel ?Aug 29 19:05
schestowitzPatent firm... human and trolls?Aug 29 19:06
_Doug"Sisvel Spa, a multinational company with headquarters in Italy specializing in the protection and exploitation of intellectual property rights"Aug 29 19:06
_DougAnother patent extortion 'firm' ..Aug 29 19:07
_DougPAy us money, or soneone we don't know wil threaten people with guns at trade shows .. :)Aug 29 19:07
_DougMaaaaaaaaa .. shoosh :oAug 29 19:08
_Doughttp://www.ipbusinesscongress.com/Programme.pdfAug 29 19:09
_DougWhat's Sisvel and 'Intellectual Ventures' doing in the same doc ?Aug 29 19:10
_DougSnouts to the Trough ..Aug 29 19:12
_Doug"The role of IP monetisation"Aug 29 19:12
_DougHow to squeeze revenue out of real companies ..Aug 29 19:12
schestowitzYes, it's disgusting.Aug 29 19:14
schestowitzAlso new:Aug 29 19:14
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/...Aug 29 19:14
_Doug"Ocean Tomo's second auction in Europe .. a world-record was set .. for a single patent .. for €£2,475,000"Aug 29 19:16
_DougI guess the 'commision' was meeting to carve up their terrority .. :]Aug 29 19:17
_DougWhy the armed response and seizures at trade shows .. like it would be calculated to maximize the damage to the companies reputation .. ?Aug 29 19:19
_Doughttp://www.redherring.com/Home/18346Aug 29 19:19
schestowitzAnyone killed yet?Aug 29 19:20
_DougHaaa ...Aug 29 19:21
_DougThis ain't funny for the companies involved ..Aug 29 19:21
schestowitzBankruptcy.Aug 29 19:21
schestowitzJoin the Military. Uncle Sam wants YOU................ to defend intellectual monopolies.Aug 29 19:24
_Doug"The DVB-T patent pool offers .. access to patents owned by France TA(C)lA(C)com, Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd., and Victor Company of Japan, Limited (JVC)"Aug 29 19:24
_Doug"Effective August 26th, 2008, licenses under those DVB-T essential patents will be available from SISVEL"Aug 29 19:25
_Doughttp://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/si...Aug 29 19:25
_Doughttp://tinyurl.com/56maelAug 29 19:25
zoobabSisvel is a Philips proxyAug 29 19:26
_DougI guess it's one way of gettig a choke hold on the Media .. ;)Aug 29 19:26
zoobabusing the same extorsion tactics as PhilipsAug 29 19:26
schestowitzWoot! IIS is falling: http://news.netcraft.com/archiv...Aug 29 19:26
zoobabAndre said that Sisvel has used the police to seize mp3 players today in a trade fair in GermanyAug 29 19:27
zoobabbut all articles are in germanAug 29 19:27
MinceRNetcraft confirms IIS is dyingAug 29 19:27
MinceR;)Aug 29 19:27
_Doughttp://www.ipeg.com/_UPLOAD%...Aug 29 19:28
_DougThis is a HUGE story .. why isn't the main stream press covering it ?Aug 29 19:29
schestowitzMinceR: I'll write about Apache later... and IE8.Aug 29 19:29
_Dougtfab, time for a break ..Aug 29 19:29
schestowitz_Doug: which story?Aug 29 19:29
_DougThe whole IP patents thing ..Aug 29 19:31
_Doug.. sleep(5)Aug 29 19:34
schestowitzByfield disinformation (one-sided piece) was also put in InternetNews *sigh*: http://www.internetnews.com/commenta...   At least Carla picked my rebuttal for Linux Today.Aug 29 19:34
*moparx (n=moparx@pdpc/supporter/base/moparx) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 19:37
MinceRhmm... Stardock says "Gamers shall have the right to not be treated as potential criminals by developers or publishers." while pushing DRM.Aug 29 19:37
schestowitzThey 'protect' the user.Aug 29 19:38
MinceRlike the microsoft patent deals?Aug 29 19:38
schestowitzzoobab: this one might make the FP < http://digg.com/linux_unix/Suppo... >, but it slowed down after about 40 Diggs in 7 hours.Aug 29 19:42
_Dougprotect from who .. Intellectual Vultures .. :)Aug 29 19:42
schestowitzMinceR: they protect nobody.Aug 29 19:42
schestowitzSee this response to my post at LT:  http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story...   (he's not a lawyer, but still..)Aug 29 19:42
schestowitz_Doug: I'll take the piss out of Nathan Myhrvold later. I have some good images.Aug 29 19:43
MinceRwasn't Sun the main supporter of OOo?Aug 29 19:43
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uplo...Aug 29 19:43
schestowitzMinceR: yes, Novell is only Microstitizing it with OOXML and Mono.Aug 29 19:44
schestowitzzoobab: I'm catching  with DM. I see you link to < http://localtechwire.com/busines... >, which I sent PJ. It has FUD at the end and she emphasised: "There is an article about GPLv3 and patents written by a lawyer at Ward and Smith. I thought I should point out that this is not the same firm whose partner, Johnny Ward, is suing PatentTrollTracker, Ward & Smith, the Texas firm (scroll down to keyAug 29 19:49
schestowitzword Cisco)."Aug 29 19:49
twitterDRM Gamer Protection that's rich.  DRM is all about the criminalization of sharing.  Those who advocate DRM think sharing is wrong in the first place.Aug 29 20:13
twitterOnce they get DRM in place, they charge you with circumventing their poison.Aug 29 20:13
twitterI like seeing IIS losing share to Google, Apache and others.Aug 29 20:14
schestowitzI'll do a post about it later.Aug 29 20:14
MinceR(Stardock is saying things they don't mean in their press release: http://pc.ign.com/articles/90... )Aug 29 20:14
twitterHere's my thought http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/210379Aug 29 20:23
schestowitzCool.Aug 29 20:24
twitter:)Aug 29 20:24
trmancohttp://www.itworld.com/internet/545...Aug 29 20:26
twitterThink it's worth a Sladhdot front page?Aug 29 20:26
twitter^^The IIS story?Aug 29 20:27
schestowitzToo short.Aug 29 20:27
twitterIt's clear that IIS has stumbled over the last three months and Slashdot loves controversy.Aug 29 20:27
twitterThe trolls don't like my long stories either.Aug 29 20:27
_Dougttg .. that's Time To Go ...Aug 29 20:29
*_Doug has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client")Aug 29 20:29
twitterLike this one.  http://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/210145Aug 29 20:29
schestowitzThe dollar signs don't helpAug 29 20:30
twitterA friendly M$ press release about piracy made it to the front page two days later.Aug 29 20:30
schestowitzBut encyclopedia of failurelog is effectiveAug 29 20:30
twitterI've got better things to do with my time that type icrosoftAug 29 20:30
twitterthanksAug 29 20:30
MinceRthe front page would deserve a story about the piracy leak in IE8Aug 29 20:31
MinceRimoAug 29 20:31
twitterMissed that story.Aug 29 20:31
schestowitzSlashdot is not a MS-bashing site anymore.Aug 29 20:31
schestowitzThey visited Redmond.Aug 29 20:31
MinceRto what extent?Aug 29 20:31
twitterIt's not about M$ bashing, it's about telling the truth and not being brainwashed.Aug 29 20:32
MinceRtelling the truth about m$ and m$ bashing is pretty much the same thing :>Aug 29 20:32
twitterI'm not sure about the effectiveness of the Vista failure log.  Hardware will catch up and M$ will fix enough bugs for people to tolerate it like they did XP.Aug 29 20:33
twitterThe brainwash about "not as bad as people say" struck the BRLUG today.Aug 29 20:34
schestowitzMinceR: That's not what the cronies would have them believe though.Aug 29 20:35
twitterIt's not true either.  "Bash" is a label invented to discredit people who point out how bad M$ business practices and software are.Aug 29 20:38
twitterIt's usually followed by name calling like "conspiracy theorist" "shrill" "obsessive" "ignorant" and so on and so forth.Aug 29 20:39
twitterIf you don't do your homework, you are ignorant and stupid.  If you do, you are obsessive and crazy.Aug 29 20:40
schestowitzIt goes both ways.Aug 29 20:40
schestowitzMany confrontations are like this, but I don't endorse it when it comes from people on the defender's payroll.Aug 29 20:40
schestowitzI wrote some stuff about it this morning. Can't remember what exactly, but I wrote a little more about AstroTurfing and other forms of deception. Microsoft does it as often as a bodily functyion.Aug 29 20:41
twitterWell of course it goes both ways.  The perception management and marketing from M$ are obviously over the top, obsessive and dishonest.Aug 29 20:41
twitterThat does not keep them from doing it.Aug 29 20:42
schestowitzDo you have some bookmakred links or indexed to known incidents?Aug 29 20:43
schestowitzI'm collecting these.Aug 29 20:43
twitterNo links, other than the M$ quarterly reports.  This is a big picture thought.  If you had billions of dollars a year to spend, would you put it towards perception management?  Could you ever be as aggressive and asinine as the trolls are?Aug 29 20:44
schestowitzThe reports are 'cooked'.Aug 29 20:47
twitterYes, but they tell you how much money is spent on marketing.  It's something like a billion dollars a month.Aug 29 20:48
schestowitzPerception examples: "Linux is a cancer, it violated patent law, it's all command-line and less than 1% market share while Vista was sold 200 million times and people just mock it for no reason."Aug 29 20:49
twitterAll to make something third rate.Aug 29 20:49
schestowitzThe Bush government uses similar tactics.Aug 29 20:49
twitterWhile free software runs circles around it.Aug 29 20:49
schestowitzWell, that's the safe analogy... not to step on Godwin's law.Aug 29 20:50
twitterThe CIA is scary like that.Aug 29 20:50
schestowitzI bet to differ. Nothing is more scary than this: http://bp0.blogger.com/_UqUwVPikChs/...Aug 29 20:51
schestowitzSo many Novell spinner today. *sigh* Novell’s losses widened, the company admits cooking the books and I spot many spinner that parrot Novell’s twist on debt write-off.Aug 29 20:55
*[H]omer has quit ("reset by beer")Aug 29 21:38
*[H]omer (n=[H]omer@moscow.perfect-privacy.com) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 21:51
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to [H]omerAug 29 21:51
*[H]omer is away: sleep beer sleep beer sleepAug 29 21:51
MinceR:(Aug 29 21:55
*libervisco has quit (Remote closed the connection)Aug 29 21:55
*tessier__ (n=treed@wsip-70-164-113-3.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #boycottnovellAug 29 22:00
tessier__Hello allAug 29 22:01
tessier__Anything interesting happening?Aug 29 22:01
schestowitzHey, tessier_. Not much, but trolling has declined.Aug 29 22:04
tessier__Trolling has declined eh? How about on the newsgroup?Aug 29 22:05
schestowitzHmmm... that too. But it was really mad back in July.Aug 29 22:09
zoobabPatent sharks are on the riseAug 29 22:22
schestowitzSharks?!! Where, where?Aug 29 22:22
zoobabWith 232 patent cases filed in Marshall in the past year, trial dates for filing there are now running to 2012. Judge T. John Ward's patent litigation mill is slowing, but faring.Aug 29 22:23
tessier__I hear patent sharks were suspected to have fed off those four bodies found floating off the coast of FloridaAug 29 22:23
zoobabhttp://www.digitalmajority.org/for...Aug 29 22:23
zoobabpatent sharks is another word for patent trollAug 29 22:23
zoobabit is olderAug 29 22:24
tessier__What's in it for that judge to be nice to patents?Aug 29 22:24
zoobabfrom the 1896Aug 29 22:24
zoobabhe just says that Marshallll is full until 2012Aug 29 22:24
zoobabhttp://www.digitalmajority.org/forum/t...Aug 29 22:24
zoobabProf. Magliocca compares 19th century problems with "patent sharks" to today's problems with "patent trolls" and suggests the only politically acceptable path out of today's problems may be the path taken out of the 19th century problems, i.e. elimination of the class of patents that triggered the problems.Aug 29 22:25
tessier__What class of patents did they eliminate in the 19th century?Aug 29 22:26
schestowitzPoetry patents.... that's a funny one.Aug 29 22:26
zoobabdon't know still have to read the articleAug 29 22:28
zoobab:-)Aug 29 22:28
zoobabI need to outsource more to the communityAug 29 22:28
zoobabtoo few people are working in documenting the swpat issueAug 29 22:28
zoobabthis paper is a must readAug 29 22:34
zoobabhttp://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/paper...Aug 29 22:34
zoobab10Aug 29 22:35
zoobab       See Arguments Before the Committee on Patents, 45th Cong., 2d Sess., Sen.Aug 29 22:35
zoobabMisc. Doc. No. 50, at 123 (1878) (testimony of J.H. Raymond) (criticizing “thoseAug 29 22:35
zoobabwho are justly called patent sharks” and the “large number of patents that areAug 29 22:35
zoobabgood for nothing except as the bases for infringement suits”); see generally Earl W.Aug 29 22:35
zoobabHayter, The Patent System and Agrarian Discontent, 34 MISS. VALLEY HIST. REV. 59Aug 29 22:35
zoobab(1947) (describing this controversy in detail).Aug 29 22:35
zoobab1878!Aug 29 22:35
schestowitzzoobab: how is FFII funded?Aug 29 22:39
trmancohttp://itstudent.org/blog/?p=715Aug 29 22:46
schestowitzThey squeeze the goose. One day the golden egg won't come out.Aug 29 22:49
zoobabwhois patentshark.orgAug 29 22:52
zoobabwhois patentshark.netAug 29 22:53
schestowitzRay Niro?Aug 29 22:55
schestowitzhttp://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=... (I get nothing for .net and .org)Aug 29 22:57
*trmanco has quit ("I just hit the close button :)")Aug 29 23:54

Recent Techrights' Posts

Banning Things Versus Teaching People the Reason/s to Shun/Boycott Those Things
Prohibition has its limits
 
Gemini Links 07/06/2026: Lynx in the 'Modern' Web and 'Overcooked' (Plagiarised by LLM) Code
Links for the day
Links 07/06/2026: Java Needs Seawall, Egypt Blasted for Arbitrary Detention of Activists
Links for the day
SLAPP Censorship - Part 100 Out of 200: Interlude and Outline of the First Half, 3+ Months That Got Us Death Threats Connected to Brett Wilson LLP (and Cyber Attacks That Are Difficult to Attribute)
This week we plan to have a good time
Links 07/06/2026: NASA's Mars Maven Declared Dead, Telegram Founder Pavel Durov Bemoans Russia's Crackdown
Links for the day
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 06, 2026
IRC logs for Saturday, June 06, 2026
Gemini Links 07/06/2026: How to Train Your Dragon (2010) and "Six Days of Play"
Links for the day
Links 06/06/2026: 'Epstein Problem' in Board of Directors of Microsoft, Surveillance Giant Google Under Legal Threats for Online Misuses
Links for the day
Software Freedom Takes a Lot More Than Coding
some of the roles in the Free software community that don't receive (m)any grateful words
Ubuntu is Losing to Other GNU/Linux Distros
"Linux Mint"
Old Articles Explaining That Patents - Especially Software Patents - Are Bad for Innovation
We've omitted more than 50% of the articles we had gathered as candidates for inclusion
European Patent Office (EPO) Crisis: Huge EPO Strikes, Profound Corruption, and Cocaine Use by Managers Tolerated
These strikes won't be ending any time soon
Why GNU and FSF Will Choose AV1 Over AV2 (It's More Widely Supported)
for the foreseeable future they'll stick with AV1
Mass Layoffs (RAs) and PIPs (Excuses to Sack) at IBM: Insiders Tell No Relation to Actual Performance
If many thousands are impacted by this, then certainly it is newsworthy
Links 06/06/2026: LinkedIn Infested With Spies, Ethernet WiFi Router On Pi Pico 2W
Links for the day
25 Years With PalmOS
That my Palm PDA still works in 2026 (not in mint condition but close to that) says a lot about the "build quality" of gadgets 20+ years ago
Why We Dumped Online Shopping (Groceries)
subsidies kept the "online" stuff artificially cheap
Microsoft Fell to All-Time Low in Monaco Last Month
So says statCounter anyway
Lawsuits That Don't Work
Not as expected anyway
SLAPP Censorship - Part 99 Out of 200: Graveley and Garrett Seem to Have Crashed Brett Wilson LLP (Worse Than Taking Russian Oligarchs as SLAPP Clients)
a state of disarray
Microsoft Has Spent Months Preparing Lists of People to Cull in Massive Wave of Layoffs (Allegedly Start of July)
There is some consensus that we're weeks away from mega-layoffs at Microsoft
Gemini Links 06/06/2026: "Competing" With LLMs and "Automation of Any Kind"
Links for the day
Links 06/06/2026: 'Linux' Foundation Openwashing Slop on Microsoft's Payroll, Ukraine Wants Permanent Ceasefire With Russia
Links for the day
50% of the 'Gains' Made by "Quantum" Hype Already Evaporated
"It was all hype about quantum nonsense. Heading back to reality now. Expect sub-$220 after earnings release next month."
Heap of Trash Online, Not Just the Fault of LLM Slop But Enabled by Slop
Google News has just promoted a pair of prolific slopfarms
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Friday, June 05, 2026
IRC logs for Friday, June 05, 2026
Links 05/06/2026: Lawyers in Trouble for Citing Cases That Don't Exist (Slop Too Bad to Justify Costs; Even It It Did Work, It Would Still be Far Too Expensive)
Links for the day
Gemini Links 05/06/2026: Bears in the Streets, WWII Revisionism, and Westworld
Links for the day
IBM is "Making an Exit". Only the Executives Will Get Rich.
failure disguised as success
Microsoft's LinkedIn Called "Dying Platform" by One Who Worked There
The co-founder of LinkedIn has just stepped down too
GAFAM (Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Microsoft) Layoffs Are Due to Surging Debt, or About 120 Billion Dollars Borrowed in One Year Alone
It's well above 150 billion dollars if one adds Oracle
2026 is the Year of Blockchains, Says IBM's CEO a Decade Ago?
"falling upwards"
After One Jeffrey Epstein Associate 'Leaves' Microsoft's Board Another Jeffrey Epstein Associate Steps Down, Workers Concerned About the Mass Layoffs
How many more loans can Microsoft receive? Those loans are becoming increasingly risky.
IBM Exploits Overambitious, Hungry Young Men to Help the "Great Quantum Hype Campaign" (Pumping the Stock Based on Deliberate Misinformation or Outright Disinformation)
The boot-licking campaign is live...
What Will Likely Happen When the Slop Bubble Pops (and When It'll be Widely Accepted That It Popped)
all the "most successful" slop companies are so deep in debt
The Register MS is Part of the Problem, It's Publishing "AI" SPAM Because it's Paid by Chinese Military-Connected Firms
Given that The Register MS is run by a Microsofter (since last summer), destruction seems inevitable
Most Coders Used to be Women, Not Men (and Men Who Dropped Out of College Now Plunder Everything They Can)
"Ethics For Hackers"
IBM's CEO Does Not Use GNU/Linux, So Why Did He Suggest Buying Red Hat Only to Lay Off Its Workers, Market Slop Instead of Linux, and Sack UNIX Professionals?
Shortly after IBM had bought Red Hat and there were mass layoffs we pointed out that Red Hat's CEO was not using GNU/Linux
If You're Not Focusing on Software Freedom, All You'll Get is Slopware and Buzzwords
If you're not focusing on attaining Software Freedom (and remember "Linux" is just a brand), then you're losing sight of the goals that actually matter
Red Hat/IBM: Microsoft is Our Partner of the Year
Red Hat is a really bad gravy
Gemini Links 05/06/2026: Enshittification of Institutes for Project Management, Codebases Contaminated With Slop, Personal Stories
Links for the day
Communicating With Freedom - Part II - Quibble Breathing New Life Into LibreJS
Notice how work on one thing led to thousands of lines of code added to a mostly dormant (but nevertheless important) project
Slop Has no ROI, an Economy Built on False Assumptions of Slop is Doomed
we're all going to suffer from this Ponzi scheme
Links 05/06/2026: More GAFAM Layoffs, Google Faces Regulatory Crackdown in UK Over Plagiarism in "AI" Clothing
Links for the day
Rumour That Layoffs at Microsoft Will Kick Off on July 1st, 2026 (Impacting 10,000 or More Workers)
this is what the rumour mill or the word through the grapevine is
Mission:Libre, Which Teaches Young People Free Software Ideals, Needs Financial Backing
plea for assistance with Mission:Libre
The Slop Ponzi Scheme is a Problem and Threat to All of Us (Even Those Who Don't Invest in or Use Slop at All)
This problem is systemic, not contained
"Blind Justice" Examines the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) Turning a Blind Eye to Abuse by British Solicitors
We have some jaw-dropping examples of how the SRA does not do actual regulation - to the point where its staff does not actual work and does not look into any evidence at all!
7 Days From Now the FSF's Founder Gives a Talk in Bern, the FSF Has Just Advertised This
Meanwhile the FSF (or GNU) processes and uploads many recent talks by RMS
European Patent Office (EPO) Series: Down But Not Out – Costa's Comeback
he managed to secure a top-level EU position in June 2024
Over at Tux Machines...
GNU/Linux news for the past day
IRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 04, 2026
IRC logs for Thursday, June 04, 2026