SeÃÂ±or de Icaza Meets Other Microsoft MVPs

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2010-03-20 20:16:32 UTC
Modified: 2010-03-20 20:17:20 UTC

Summary: José, Miguel, and other boosters of Microsoft Corporation have a get-together at the company's annual event

IT'S this time of the year again. Microsoft Mix 2010 is on, so it's time for Novell's VP (who is behind Mono and Moonlight) to mingle with some other Microsoft boosters (like José AntÃÂ´nio Farias) and speak about some ideas for promoting failed products like Xbox. Yes, for those who missed the news, Novell is now helping Xbox 360 [1, 2]. How pathetic and predictable. It's worth mentioning this scoop from the same event (regarding Microsoft's failed mobile business): "Win phone 7 marketplace can automatically revoke apps - delete them from your device! #mix10" (originally from a Microsoft booster).

We have just found this video of Miguel de Icaza speaking to Microsoft colleagues/MVPs at Microsoft's Mix 2010. Sadly, it's in Spanish. Can anyone please provide a translation?

Novell's other .NET people compare Ruby and C#, probably looking for justifications to support and promote Mono (and by extension .NET). Novell does the same thing by belittling Java. This newer post is less about belittling Ruby but perhaps about luring in Ruby developers so that they consider moving to .NET. It's a bit speculative though.

“This newer post is less about belittling Ruby but perhaps about luring in Ruby developers so that they consider moving to .NET.”According to another new post, Evolution's Mono extensions (or "plugins") make people think. The SUSE/Novell camp denies everything using special words like "conspiracy" [1, 2]. From the opening: "Someone, who probably has no idea of what it takes to maintain a large codebase, suggested that Canonical/Ubuntu should fork Evolution. He also sensed a non-existing Microsoft conspiracy. These days we seem to hear more about conspiracies by evil corporations than about technology/user-needs ;-)"

Of all companies, Canonical is probably the least likely to fork Evolution, which is Novell's own product by the way. If there is a distribution that truly dodges Mono and even maintains Gnote, it is Fedora (Red Hat). No former Microsoft employees and Microsoft MVPs appear to have occupied that project. The same cannot be said about Canonical, which hired from Microsoft and Novell and has former Microsoft employees making suggestions to its developers (we would rather not name the people, but they do exist). ⬆

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verofakto

2010-03-20 23:12:36

Tank you for posting this, Dr. Roy. I must admit that while I do follow many FOSS blogs and news, I am lazy enough not to seek out things like videos, so I found this very interesting. It's refreshing to see the people who actually have contributed something to FOSS interact with other people, enrich the community and promote their work this way. I contrast that to you and your cronies, who make a lot of noise but contribute precious little to FOSS.

Despite your sick hatred of this man (just one of a long list really) and the work he has done (which I am sure has more to do with the fact that it emanates from Microsoft than your hysterical arguments about patents and APIs), this kind of exposure is very valuable. And your clever borderline racism, Herr Doktor, gives this a new dimension that tells me you have become truly desperate because as far as I and everyone else in the real world can see, Mono continues to be popular and Microsoft isn't dying, nor is Bill Gates being hauled off to jail for destroying humanity, as you have so querulously claimed. You are buried in a pile of text 9,000 feet deep that constitutes reality as far as you're concerned - and that has an irony of its own because it's the same problem Microsoft has forever had, with their views of what the software world should be and their paranoia and sense of automatic entitlement over everything and anything.

I hope you continue your quest to alienate marginalize the side of the FOSS community (thankfully still the majority) that isn't infected with this weird hatred you and your friends seem to suffer from - and I won't even go into your bizarre Stallman fetish. Nothing anyone can do or say speaks more to how your self-styled "sacrifice" fails to make you the figure of tragic destiny you hoped to become and instead simply gives your whole operation a touch of repulsive irony.

Cheers.

Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2010-03-20 23:28:45

I don't usually respond to trolls, but only in your wild imagination was there racism here. I won't reply to any more of your smears.

Discuss content, avoid personal attacks on the poster. Not so hard, right? Your defamatory Web site withstanding.

verofakto

2010-03-21 09:37:36

I think your use of racially-insensitive references like "coon songs" and "Uncle Tom" when referring to Barack Obama coupled with arguing that Microsoft software is "bad" because it's written in India pretty much gives that argument good footing. This is not the first time you've used the "Senor" thing - in fact you actually made a lame joke about Icaza being an "engrish guru". Which is hilarious coming from you, of course.

As for your rules, I'll pass. It's hard to take them seriously when they clearly apply only to other people as far as you're concerned.

pinguinpat

2010-03-21 16:23:29

I think you don't think verofakto!!

:)
your_friend

2010-03-22 04:38:05

This is serious and malicious libel, verofakto. Here's a little context to help dispel that. The term Uncle Tom appears only twice in Boycott Novell, your statement above and as an IRC conversation that had nothing to do with Roy. The phrase "coon songs" was mentioned by Roy when he quoted a reader's opinion of things that are inappropriate and offensive. Roy's complete lack of censorship makes it easy for people to post offensive material here, surely you can plant better than this to smear him. It is interesting that the reference you mined was part of an article called, "Whisper Campaigns" about how Microsoft infiltrates lists and web sites to libel people and companies. Please go away.
Dr. Roy Schestowitz

2010-03-22 07:34:37

"Uncle Tom" was brought up after Nader had made a controversial remark. Jason (from The Source and Mono-Nono) explained to me the origins of the term "Uncle Tom", which I didn't know was that racist book.
verofakto

2010-03-24 05:50:24

You have your context wrong Willy. Try Google search again until you find it. You do realize that once you fall back to the "you must work for Microsoft" defense you've pretty much lost the argument, right?

By the way, they're asking about you on IRC lately. So far Dr. Roy has managed to ignore them, but the silence sure is deafening.

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