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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] #TSA harasses tries virtual #stripsearch of Rep @jasoninthehouse fallowing his now approved restrictions on the practice http://ur1.ca/cuqa | Oct 03 00:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Fights Back as More Nations Adopt #ODF http://ping.fm/FKaQe | Oct 03 00:26 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] #TSA harasses tries virtual #stripsearch of Rep @jasoninthehouse fallowing house approved restrictions http://ur1.ca/cuqa http://ur1.ca/cuqn | Oct 03 00:27 | |
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| **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Oct 3 00:52:49 2009 | ||
| *Now talking on #boycottnovell | Oct 03 00:52 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell is: Communication about anything, including Microsoft, Novell, and Free software [publicly logged] | Oct 03 00:52 | |
| *Topic for #boycottnovell set by schestowitz at Fri Jun 12 18:24:05 2009 | Oct 03 00:52 | |
| -ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Oct 03 00:52 | |
| schestowitz | Which file like .profile and .bashrc can be run at the beginning of each session? | Oct 03 00:56 |
| schestowitz | Inside the home directory that is. I know how to do it outside homedir, but it's not as portable | Oct 03 00:57 |
| schestowitz | Oh never mind. | Oct 03 00:57 |
| schestowitz | I remember now | Oct 03 00:57 |
| schestowitz | /home/roy/.kde/Autostart | Oct 03 00:57 |
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| cubezzz | $KDEDIR/share/autostart | Oct 03 01:36 |
| cubezzz | um, probably depends on which KDE though | Oct 03 01:37 |
| cubezzz | on this system I have $HOME/.bashrc and $HOME/.bashprofile | Oct 03 01:45 |
| cubezzz | $HOME/.bash_profile rather | Oct 03 01:47 |
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| tessier | http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/dell-laptop-tries-to-impress-impression-makers/?hpw | Oct 03 02:16 |
| tessier | Some users Dell surveyed spent 70 percent of their time working in the instant-on mode. Microsoft is sure to take note of that figure. Windows has turned into a clunky cup holder. | Oct 03 02:16 |
| tessier | That is sweet | Oct 03 02:16 |
| fewa | nice | Oct 03 02:18 |
| fewa | and the Linux doesn't even use the x86 processor | Oct 03 02:19 |
| fewa | so it could be much cheaper without it | Oct 03 02:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | s/use/need/ | Oct 03 02:25 |
| fewa | neither | Oct 03 02:25 |
| fewa | it uses a ARM processor | Oct 03 02:25 |
| fewa | which is in the notebook | Oct 03 02:26 |
| fewa | probably uses the same RAM, thats quite something | Oct 03 02:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | no Im saying, Linux doesnt need x86 | Oct 03 02:28 |
| fewa | same with the laptop | Oct 03 02:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] #Bilski briefs to the Supreme Court http://ur1.ca/cuw8 #SCOTUS #patent | Oct 03 02:30 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] IBM Yahoo! PhRMA BSA ( Microsoft ) Accenture support software and business method patents http://ur1.ca/cuw8 | Oct 03 02:38 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] IBM Yahoo! PhRMA BSA (Microsoft) support software, business method patents: anti-competitive slowers of innovation http://ur1.ca/cuw8 | Oct 03 02:40 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] IBM Yahoo! PhRMA BSA (Microsoft) pro software, business method patent monopolies: anti-competitive slowers of innovation http://ur1.ca/cuw8 | Oct 03 02:41 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] A Superior System: The Single-Payer Amendment and HR 3200 As Written http://ur1.ca/cuxe #singlepayer #hr3200 #hc | Oct 03 02:59 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] FSF Amicus Curiae Brief on Bilski case http://tr.im/AvlT Lists of Briefs are here http://tr.im/Avmi | Oct 03 03:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] A Superior System: The Single-Payer Amendment and HR 3200 As Written http://ur1.ca/cv07 #singlepayer #hr3200 #hc | Oct 03 04:54 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @gkjohn: Slow news day. Next up, "Person Updates Facebook Status" RT @prolificd: Hah! TOI picks up tharoor's tweets and turns them into h | Oct 03 06:08 | |
| Omar871 | Hi all. | Oct 03 06:19 |
| Omar871 | Anyone knows of any good open source simulation software similar to Arena and CLIPS? | Oct 03 06:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Will be in Amman by 1:00 PM at most. Wanna meet him? PM him quickly before 11:00 to arrange something or to get his phone number. | Oct 03 06:25 | |
| zlg | Omar have you looked at Jess or Fuzzy CLIPS ? | Oct 03 06:36 |
| Omar871 | zlg: I'll google them right a way. Thanks. | Oct 03 06:40 |
| Omar871 | zlp: So these are open-source stuff? | Oct 03 06:43 |
| zlg | I believe so, Jess is a java rewrite of CLIPS as far as I know. | Oct 03 06:45 |
| zlg | Im trying really hard to remember the name of an app I used to use, it might have been called FUZZYSIM or something. | Oct 03 06:46 |
| zlg | sounds like what your looking for. | Oct 03 06:46 |
| Omar871 | zlg: As it's stated in the Wikipedia page, it's a superset of CLIPS. | Oct 03 06:46 |
| Omar871 | zlg: Is it Fuzzy Control Language? | Oct 03 06:48 |
| Omar871 | zlg: Or Fuzzy Control System? | Oct 03 06:49 |
| zlg | Yes, exactly, it's a rule based expert system, with simulator, (or compiler) to create an "executable" within it's environment | Oct 03 06:49 |
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| zlg | It does not have physical I/O I dont think, so you would have to translate it to any specific control, from memory, that was a few years ago. | Oct 03 06:51 |
| zlg | also look up linear optimisation, operations research, neural nets | Oct 03 06:52 |
| Omar871 | zlg: In the same Jess Wikipedia page, and under the "License" section: "While CLIPS is licensed as open source, Jess is not open source." | Oct 03 06:54 |
| fewa | If is public defraudment | Oct 03 07:11 |
| fewa | Jess, the Java Rule Engine is Copyright © 2007 by Sandia National Laboratories. | Oct 03 07:11 |
| fewa | Sandia National Laboratories is wholy funded by the US government | Oct 03 07:11 |
| fewa | US government works are not eligible for copyright | Oct 03 07:11 |
| fewa | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9011283/Reverse_hacker_wins_4.3M_in_suit_against_Sandia_Labs | Oct 03 07:32 |
| fewa | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9016884/Reverse_hacker_case_gets_costlier_for_Sandia_Labs | Oct 03 07:32 |
| fewa | Guess that is what you get when private corporations run government | Oct 03 07:32 |
| schestowitz | Hey, fewa | Oct 03 07:56 |
| amarsh04 | hi schestowitz | Oct 03 07:57 |
| Omar871 | Hi all. | Oct 03 07:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Exploring #SimPy while I still have a chance. It's seems pretty good! | Oct 03 07:58 | |
| Omar871 | Wow.. that latest tweet you just saw was posted on identi.ca (my and identi.ca and twitter accounts are connected so any post on identi.ca is directly sent to my twitter account as well) | Oct 03 08:00 |
| Omar871 | the point is, when I'm noticing that when I post it to identi.ca, it appears faster in this channel than when I post it to twitter directly. Isn't that weird? | Oct 03 08:01 |
| Omar871 | correction: "the point is, I'm noticing that when.... etc" | Oct 03 08:02 |
| schestowitz | Identica grows very fast | Oct 03 08:06 |
| fewa | why are the shittiest sites based on JAVA | Oct 03 08:06 |
| fewa | http://www.nmcourts.com/caselookup/app | Oct 03 08:07 |
| fewa | these fully session based apps with 50000 char urls that are session-only | Oct 03 08:07 |
| fewa | all the disadvantages of web apps, app the disadvantages of desktop apps, none of the strengths of either | Oct 03 08:08 |
| fewa | argggg | Oct 03 08:08 |
| Omar871 | fewa: From the way I see it, I think the crappiest of sites are all written in .NET. | Oct 03 08:08 |
| fewa | I cant tell all the .NET stuff apart | Oct 03 08:08 |
| fewa | .asp, .aspx | Oct 03 08:09 |
| fewa | .xpd ? | Oct 03 08:09 |
| fewa | allot of .NET sites are completely stiff | Oct 03 08:11 |
| fewa | dont work without cookies | Oct 03 08:11 |
| Omar871 | fewa: The main common ground they share is that simply.. they all suck. :) | Oct 03 08:11 |
| fewa | redirect on all errors | Oct 03 08:11 |
| fewa | cant multithread session <--most pitiful | Oct 03 08:11 |
| fewa | i've had that with both java and .net | Oct 03 08:11 |
| fewa | where if you open two tabs and do something in another tab, your other tabs dont work | Oct 03 08:12 |
| fewa | cause the whole thing is based on users only doing 1 thing at a time | Oct 03 08:12 |
| fewa | these huge development "platforms" tend to be huge collections of hacks | Oct 03 08:14 |
| Omar871 | fewa: That worst thing I noticed about .NET is that, when it comes to security.. .... It's just.... ok, I failed to find an appropriate term to describe exactly how pathetic it is. | Oct 03 08:14 |
| fewa | don't see how anyone could actually make a real web site with them | Oct 03 08:14 |
| fewa | yeah thats a whole other realm | Oct 03 08:15 |
| fewa | Microsoft has never cared about security | Oct 03 08:15 |
| fewa | except in the Trecherous computing sense | Oct 03 08:15 |
| fewa | they see security as a luxury they can charge piecemeal for | Oct 03 08:16 |
| Omar871 | Where it might do good at security, but will probably suck huge time at some other aspects. | Oct 03 08:16 |
| schestowitz | Omar871: I don't see many ASP sites | Oct 03 08:17 |
| schestowitz | It's good that Windows never took off in Web servers and now they fall further | Oct 03 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Apache and others gain at the expense of IIS | Oct 03 08:18 |
| fewa | that was really vague | Oct 03 08:18 |
| fewa | yes php is big | Oct 03 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has already 'bribed' anyone it could (e.g. GoDaddy) to fake a migration | Oct 03 08:18 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft embraced APache | Oct 03 08:18 |
| fewa | microsoft is a small player | Oct 03 08:18 |
| schestowitz | That's what Microsoft does when it loses | Oct 03 08:18 |
| schestowitz | E.g. 'embrace' ODF | Oct 03 08:19 |
| schestowitz | Try to hijack it | Oct 03 08:19 |
| schestowitz | fewa: they spread Silver Lie with APache now | Oct 03 08:19 |
| schestowitz | http://port25.technet.com/archive/2009/09/29/contribution-without-a-thud.aspx | Oct 03 08:19 |
| fewa | microsoft has never succeeded with web servers of platforms | Oct 03 08:19 |
| Omar871 | schestowitz: Exactly the same way they hijacked DOS. | Oct 03 08:19 |
| fewa | that is why they are dead | Oct 03 08:19 |
| fewa | they just don't get it | Oct 03 08:19 |
| schestowitz | fewa: head of odf alliance mailed me the other day | Oct 03 08:19 |
| fewa | their business model only works if all innovation is sieved down through their APIs | Oct 03 08:20 |
| schestowitz | They are not happy with what Microsoft does | Oct 03 08:20 |
| schestowitz | And Weir isn't, either | Oct 03 08:20 |
| schestowitz | They stuff ODF | Oct 03 08:20 |
| schestowitz | And try to pass it over to their cronies at ISO and SC34 | Oct 03 08:20 |
| schestowitz | Mary McRae knows the 'good guys' from the 'bad guys' | Oct 03 08:20 |
| Omar871 | fewa: The problem isn't actually with Microsoft. It's with those idiots who think Microsoft is the creator of all technology, and can never imagine quality and reliability in anything non-Microsoft. | Oct 03 08:21 |
| Omar871 | fewa: Even if this decision to worship Microsoft causes their infrastructure to be straight out.. crap, they just don't see that! | Oct 03 08:22 |
| Omar871 | fewa: Hackers and cybertheives are coming and going in and out of their servers, DDOS them down whenever they feel it etc.. and at the end of the day.. Their ultimate admiration of the MS garbage goes on as if nothing is wrong. :-) | Oct 03 08:25 |
| fewa | Sheep | Oct 03 08:26 |
| fewa | The Microsoft anti-competitive landscape has created a dirth of thought http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090930/hr1319_ains.pdf | Oct 03 08:27 |
| fewa | Just read that bill thinking about network computing, or computing over NFS, of installing samba on a computer | Oct 03 08:28 |
| fewa | that the state has to come in because the OS's people use are that incredibly insecure | Oct 03 08:32 |
| fewa | the insecure Windows has trained people to be scared of their computers | Oct 03 08:34 |
| fewa | rather than embrace them | Oct 03 08:34 |
| schestowitz | And data | Oct 03 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Compromised, by assumption | Oct 03 08:34 |
| fewa | yes | Oct 03 08:35 |
| fewa | That computers are inherantly insecure | Oct 03 08:35 |
| fewa | I run into all the time | Oct 03 08:35 |
| schestowitz | Some in ecommrce | Oct 03 08:35 |
| fewa | people think that any computer can be remotely cracked | Oct 03 08:35 |
| schestowitz | They know. | Oct 03 08:35 |
| fewa | think that all systems are inherently insecure, thats they cant be designed secure | Oct 03 08:36 |
| schestowitz | Off Topic: A World Where Almost One in Two PCs is a Windows Zombie PC < http://boycottnovell.com/2008/05/14/windows-zombie-pc-40-pct/ > | Oct 03 08:36 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome | Oct 03 08:40 |
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| Omar871 | schestowitz: Why exactly does Microsoft resort to attacking GNU/Linux every time they get whipped hard by Google? Doesn't that indicate that Microsoft can almost no longer stand a chance against Google, so now they go "show off their dirty monopolistic skills" on GNU/Linux? | Oct 03 08:56 |
| *Omar871 will be back soon.. | Oct 03 09:03 | |
| Omar871 | see y'all l8er. | Oct 03 09:04 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] In our IRC channel, Microsoft employees now join without disclosure. One need to squeeze that disclosure out of them. :-( | Oct 03 09:44 | |
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| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091001/0435066389.shtml | Oct 03 10:17 |
| fewa | :P schestowitz | Oct 03 10:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 10:18 |
| schestowitz | From Monday 12 October your London Evening Standard will become the first quality newspaper in the world to go free. | Oct 03 10:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23751782-a-bright-future-for-your-evening-standard.do# | Oct 03 10:18 |
| fewa | sport is manufactured nothingness | Oct 03 10:19 |
| fewa | who cares? | Oct 03 10:19 |
| fewa | ummmm http://techdirt.com/articles/20091002/0331316405.shtml | Oct 03 10:20 |
| fewa | kinda missees the point | Oct 03 10:20 |
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| fewa | its about two things: orphan works, and fair use | Oct 03 10:23 |
| fewa | no party should be given a monopoly over orphan works, that would just be a way of sidestepping the fact that no copyright should exist over such works | Oct 03 10:24 |
| fewa | Tim Wu http://www.slate.com/id/2229391/pagenum/all | Oct 03 10:24 |
| fewa | he really hits it well | Oct 03 10:27 |
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| schestowitz | "It's the best way to make out-of-print books widely accessible." | Oct 03 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Not really. | Oct 03 10:35 |
| fewa | no copyright should exist over such works | Oct 03 10:37 |
| fewa | thats the real solution | Oct 03 10:37 |
| fewa | Lessig was pushing that years ago | Oct 03 10:37 |
| fewa | it makes no sense | Oct 03 10:37 |
| fewa | it certainly does not advance the progress of science or the useful arts | Oct 03 10:37 |
| fewa | to restrict the access to little-access books | Oct 03 10:38 |
| schestowitz | It's welfare for artists' grandkids | Oct 03 10:40 |
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| schestowitz | Copyrights are a good idea | Oct 03 10:48 |
| schestowitz | But their ages is another matter | Oct 03 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Can the gladiators of Rome chase us with spears for spreading their literature? | Oct 03 10:48 |
| schestowitz | Artists wants their work to have a high reach. producers who are middlemen just care about money because they offer no personal creativity | Oct 03 10:49 |
| schestowitz | Producers want incentives and so do artists | Oct 03 10:49 |
| schestowitz | But the shelf life is limited | Oct 03 10:49 |
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| schestowitz | There comes a time when publication or production is old enough that it hardly generates revenue, so it might as well aim for high reach | Oct 03 10:50 |
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| schestowitz | Many authors agree that guilds only prevent them from spreading their own work | Oct 03 10:50 |
| schestowitz | Pluto still a planet, says Ronald McDonald < http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/02/mcpluto/ > | Oct 03 10:51 |
| fewa | schestowitz, if they don't have the incentive to publish it it isn't making money | Oct 03 10:52 |
| fewa | no welfare at all | Oct 03 10:53 |
| fewa | a few megastars get millions | Oct 03 10:53 |
| fewa | and the vast majority nothing at all | Oct 03 10:53 |
| fewa | thats not what I think of when I think of welfare | Oct 03 10:53 |
| schestowitz | Look at the numbers: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/02/kindle_pay_off/ | Oct 03 10:54 |
| schestowitz | Notes on a boom worth 150k? | Oct 03 10:54 |
| schestowitz | It's welfare for the superstars+descendants | Oct 03 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Like Nancy Sinatra. She can't perform, so she wants to funnel in for daddy's work | Oct 03 10:55 |
| schestowitz | "That's Nancy, with the Greedy Face..." | Oct 03 10:55 |
| schestowitz | Jacques Chirac ditches devil dog http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/02/chirac_devil_dog/ | Oct 03 10:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] the innovation process http://www.basicinstructions.net/?p=1222 | Oct 03 10:57 | |
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| zer0c00l | hey schestowitz | Oct 03 10:58 |
| schestowitz | hey | Oct 03 10:58 |
| zer0c00l | who is the msft employee here? | Oct 03 10:58 |
| zer0c00l | :P | Oct 03 10:58 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: http://identi.ca/notice/11231785 | Oct 03 10:59 |
| schestowitz | http://gnowgi.org/2009/10/02/usvisab/ | Oct 03 10:59 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: yeah american visa | Oct 03 10:59 |
| zer0c00l | not possible with GNU/Linux | Oct 03 10:59 |
| schestowitz | Only for Windows users :0) | Oct 03 11:00 |
| zer0c00l | schestowitz: yes | Oct 03 11:00 |
| schestowitz | Finger scans - check | Oct 03 11:00 |
| zer0c00l | :( | Oct 03 11:00 |
| schestowitz | Proprietary software - heck | Oct 03 11:00 |
| schestowitz | Back doors - check | Oct 03 11:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | your mon in fishnet stockings - check | Oct 03 11:00 |
| zer0c00l | http://gnowgi.org/2009/10/02/usvisab/ is a well written letter :) | Oct 03 11:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] #FSF brief on Bilski http://ur1.ca/cvb6 addresses contorted lens of Federal Circuit #patent court http://ur1.ca/couw | Oct 03 11:06 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1040_signs.jpg | Oct 03 11:08 |
| fewa | lol | Oct 03 11:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | man theres something wrong with me | Oct 03 11:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have a class named Pool | Oct 03 11:19 |
| fewa | Underwater basket weaving | Oct 03 11:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | the constructor is public | Oct 03 11:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats not funny at all | Oct 03 11:20 |
| schestowitz | 30 Beautiful Custom PC Case Designs http://sixrevisions.com/design-showcase-inspiration/30-beautiful-custom-pc-case-designs/ | Oct 03 11:20 |
| fewa | which Pool, swimming pool or pool ball | Oct 03 11:20 |
| fewa | ? | Oct 03 11:21 |
| *Diablo-D3 facepalms | Oct 03 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | Survey: US residents don't want targeted ads http://www.itworld.com/government/79438/survey-us-residents-dont-want-targeted-ads | Oct 03 11:21 |
| fewa | ahh, dug | Oct 03 11:21 |
| fewa | *duh | Oct 03 11:21 |
| fewa | Diablo-D3, i guess i dont get it | Oct 03 11:22 |
| fewa | Pool.new | Oct 03 11:22 |
| fewa | Pool.destroy | Oct 03 11:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewa: public pool | Oct 03 11:22 |
| fewa | Pool.swimming | Oct 03 11:22 |
| schestowitz | @Mark_Antony The favoured terminology here is Free Software, reports of it's demise premature ;)" http://identi.ca/notice/11168576 | Oct 03 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | http://test.org | Oct 03 11:27 |
| phIRCe | Title: OpenDNS .::. Size~: 1.95 KB | Oct 03 11:27 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Oct 03 11:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Customers ‘blamed for card fraud’ - I hate to say I told you so but.... http://tinyurl.com/y8rtdhy | Oct 03 11:31 | |
| trmanco | :-p | Oct 03 11:33 |
| trmanco | http://thomasmcguire.wordpress.com/2009/10/03/akonadi-nepomuk-and-strigi-explained/ | Oct 03 11:38 |
| phIRCe | Title: Akonadi, Nepomuk and Strigi explained « Thomas McGuire's Blog .::. Size~: 24.49 KB | Oct 03 11:38 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] First post on OpenMicroBlogger : Go ahead and try it http://openmicroblogger.com/ | Oct 03 11:41 | |
| phIRCe | Title: OpenMicroBlogger .::. Size~: 15.6 KB | Oct 03 11:41 |
| trmanco | :) | Oct 03 11:42 |
| schestowitz | w3c validator been down for an hour alread | Oct 03 11:56 |
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| schestowitz | Hiner is still being a shill, sadly. And he can't realise that Microsoft bought danger and Palm uses GPL s/w? http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=25021 | Oct 03 12:11 |
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| schestowitz | A lot of Wintel press still foolishly links to Net Applications. | Oct 03 12:15 |
| schestowitz | DT serves the Vole: http://www.telecompaper.com/news/article.aspx?cid=694433 | Oct 03 12:21 |
| schestowitz | They should also offer OOo down d/l | Oct 03 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Monoculture. | Oct 03 12:22 |
| schestowitz | "Authors opting in to Sony will have their ebook appear at The eBook Store from Sony within days of uploading to Smashwords." | Oct 03 12:22 |
| schestowitz | http://sanjose.bizjournals.com/sanjose/stories/2009/09/28/daily34.html | Oct 03 12:22 |
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| schestowitz | "Authors upload their Microsoft Word file..." | Oct 03 12:22 |
| schestowitz | Just proprietary | Oct 03 12:23 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: did you manage to get an invite? http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/29/google-wave-becomes-a-bit-more-public/ | Oct 03 12:25 |
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| trmanco | schestowitz: it hasn't arrived yet :| | Oct 03 12:25 |
| trmanco | but I did | Oct 03 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Groklaw wants to make a GL wave | Oct 03 12:25 |
| schestowitz | So I suppose they see value in it | Oct 03 12:25 |
| trmanco | really? | Oct 03 12:26 |
| trmanco | cool | Oct 03 12:26 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Oct 03 12:26 |
| schestowitz | She wrote so | Oct 03 12:26 |
| trmanco | I haven't read my feeds yet | Oct 03 12:26 |
| schestowitz | SO I guess as a substitute for blog comments and fora it's good for community interaction | Oct 03 12:26 |
| schestowitz | We have a good IRC going though | Oct 03 12:26 |
| schestowitz | With your bot enhancing it and logs too | Oct 03 12:26 |
| schestowitz | ICQ killed IRC in the 90s | Oct 03 12:27 |
| schestowitz | IM is now prevalent, but people Twit more | Oct 03 12:27 |
| schestowitz | Where microblogging it a tool for participation in IM with more people | Oct 03 12:27 |
| schestowitz | I only started microblogging after following @glynmoody for a while. It seemed fun and easy./ | Oct 03 12:28 |
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| schestowitz | Heh. | Oct 03 12:37 |
| schestowitz | This site http://botany.natur.cuni.cz/rooks/ just syndicates RMS, BN, and Al Jazera | Oct 03 12:37 |
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| trmanco | wow | Oct 03 12:40 |
| trmanco | is git the letter straight | Oct 03 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Here the type of articles that ignore anyone but Apple and Microsoft (simplification): The Apple-Microsoft tablet race http://www.theweek.com/article/index/101054/The_AppleMicrosoft_tablet_race | Oct 03 12:40 |
| trmanco | got* | Oct 03 12:40 |
| phIRCe | Title: The Apple-Microsoft tablet race - THE WEEK .::. Size~: 38.36 KB | Oct 03 12:40 |
| schestowitz | Forget about Linux tablets and their many makers ....... ppppfft | Oct 03 12:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] "Microsoft gives you Windows... Linux gives you the whole house" - Cycron comment http://tinyurl.com/yd8a88g | Oct 03 12:48 | |
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| schestowitz | WSJ: Google Sites Surpass 10B Video Views In Aug | Oct 03 13:06 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090928-710268.html | Oct 03 13:09 |
| phIRCe | Title: ComScore: Google Sites Surpass 10B Video Views In Aug - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 111.51 KB | Oct 03 13:09 |
| schestowitz | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/09/morning-scoop.html | Oct 03 13:10 |
| phIRCe | Title: Morning Scoop: Roman Polanski's past, Google vs. Microsoft, personhood petitions | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times .::. Size~: 84.58 KB | Oct 03 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | wb, senor _Hicham_ | Oct 03 13:14 |
| _Hicham_ | good morning Lord Schestowitz | Oct 03 13:16 |
| _Hicham_ | Lord of FOSS | Oct 03 13:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | lord of the sith maybe >_> | Oct 03 13:16 |
| _Hicham_ | Diablo-D3 : howdy bad boy ? | Oct 03 13:17 |
| fewa | Mac fangasmers really confuse me | Oct 03 13:18 |
| fewa | they all seem like they are employeed my Apple to sell its products | Oct 03 13:18 |
| fewa | Why would they do that? | Oct 03 13:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewa: cult of mac | Oct 03 13:19 |
| schestowitz | It's elitism projected through gadgets | Oct 03 13:19 |
| fewa | But why does anyone want to be in the cult | Oct 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | And the ads promote this culture | Oct 03 13:20 |
| fewa | as its all a very lose cult | Oct 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | "Hi, I'm a guy in suit" | Oct 03 13:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewa: macs arent bad though | Oct 03 13:20 |
| schestowitz | "Hi, I'm a hipster, but I'm bigger than you cause I use a MAC!" | Oct 03 13:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | everytime an idiot says WINDOWS SUCKS, I tell them to buy a mac. | Oct 03 13:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know why? | Oct 03 13:20 |
| fewa | I mean, its a little better than Windows, so people would accept the false comparison could end up with that | Oct 03 13:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im sure as hell not going to talk them through doing linux | Oct 03 13:20 |
| fewa | but its just so fake | Oct 03 13:20 |
| fewa | its the idea that there is nothing but OSX and Apple | Oct 03 13:21 |
| fewa | nothing else exists | Oct 03 13:21 |
| fewa | and for some reason, if you use Apple you are suppose to be insecure and hock another companies constricting products to everyone around you | Oct 03 13:21 |
| fewa | Diablo-D3, I hear installing/uninstalling apps on OSX is like Debian 1.0 | Oct 03 13:22 |
| fewa | ie before _any_ package management | Oct 03 13:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewa: not true at all | Oct 03 13:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | package management on osx is dropping an .application folder in Applications. | Oct 03 13:22 |
| fewa | no, UNIX apps | Oct 03 13:22 |
| fewa | POSIX apps | Oct 03 13:22 |
| Diablo-D3 | why would you run unix apps on a mac? | Oct 03 13:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats why I quit using osx to begin with, fewa, osx is not a *nix. | Oct 03 13:23 |
| fewa | because mac has only shitty non-free me-too software | Oct 03 13:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you use the wrong tool for the job, you will have problems | Oct 03 13:23 |
| fewa | the reason it can be way better than Windows is that it is nix | Oct 03 13:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is not osx's fault | Oct 03 13:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | osx is designed to be easy | Oct 03 13:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | *nix is not for noobs. | Oct 03 13:23 |
| fewa | I've never owned a OSX machine | Oct 03 13:23 |
| fewa | My dad had a OS 9 machine back in the day | Oct 03 13:24 |
| fewa | maybe actually OS 8 | Oct 03 13:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have a powerbook g4 sitting right infront of me | Oct 03 13:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | in fact, you're currently displaying on it | Oct 03 13:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | it runs debian sid. | Oct 03 13:24 |
| fewa | Diablo-D3, I would counter that Linux is very much for beginners | Oct 03 13:25 |
| fewa | its very easy to manage | Oct 03 13:25 |
| schestowitz | Put Linux on family's PCs, ssh -x to fix issues remotely, e.g. if they don't know how to install s/w | Oct 03 13:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes, if you know how to use a keyboard | Oct 03 13:26 |
| fewa | there are tons of things which OSX users find they just can use | Oct 03 13:26 |
| fewa | *just cant do | Oct 03 13:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | osx and windows are both antikeyboard | Oct 03 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: been successful for many this method | Oct 03 13:26 |
| fewa | GNOME works great w/o keyboard | Oct 03 13:26 |
| schestowitz | I don't know how remote login works exactly in OS X, but it probably needs some extra s/w | Oct 03 13:26 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Oct 03 13:27 |
| fewa | My mother has a much better time with GNOME than she had with XP, where every application is a maze of confusion | Oct 03 13:27 |
| schestowitz | anti-keyboard | Oct 03 13:27 |
| schestowitz | And Linux...? | Oct 03 13:27 |
| schestowitz | PigeonRank? | Oct 03 13:27 |
| fewa | OSX has same problem | Oct 03 13:27 |
| fewa | bunch of power-user apps that are hard to use, GNOME/KDE/major distros have lots of easy-to-use software that distills the stuff | Oct 03 13:27 |
| fewa | ie empathy | Oct 03 13:28 |
| schestowitz | I need to use the keyboard in Linux, it's true. I need to input text | Oct 03 13:28 |
| fewa | instead of AIM/MSN/iChat etc | Oct 03 13:28 |
| schestowitz | In Widnows you just talk to it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ | Oct 03 13:28 |
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| fewa | users _do_ notice the wars between software companies for their computers | Oct 03 13:28 |
| schestowitz | ^^Fluke | Oct 03 13:28 |
| fewa | and they _dont_ like it | Oct 03 13:28 |
| fewa | Free software fixes that problem | Oct 03 13:28 |
| fewa | and the open source development model | Oct 03 13:29 |
| fewa | lol classic schestowitz | Oct 03 13:30 |
| schestowitz | I can input text quickly and more precisely with a keyboard | Oct 03 13:31 |
| fewa | in OSX and Windows for example it is almost impossible to burn a friggen CD | Oct 03 13:31 |
| fewa | or .iso | Oct 03 13:31 |
| schestowitz | Even Windows fan DaemonFC tried the voice thing... and after hours of training it was utter c* | Oct 03 13:31 |
| fewa | you have to download software/virus to get anything done | Oct 03 13:31 |
| schestowitz | fewa: in Linux k3b is installed by default | Oct 03 13:32 |
| fewa | Daemon Naturally Speaking is the current top | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Never had ANY issue burning a cd on Linux | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | No need to learn programs either | Oct 03 13:32 |
| fewa | or brasero | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Dragon | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Not Daemon | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Oct 03 13:32 |
| fewa | lol | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | Maybe there's another product? | Oct 03 13:32 |
| fewa | yes Dragon | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | OK | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | My cousin in FL has it | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | He showed it to me ages ago | Oct 03 13:32 |
| schestowitz | USeless for most things | Oct 03 13:32 |
| fewa | Big companies probably have something much better | Oct 03 13:33 |
| schestowitz | He doesn't use it anymore | Oct 03 13:33 |
| fewa | ie Google, others | Oct 03 13:33 |
| schestowitz | It's like something you play with for a whole | Oct 03 13:33 |
| schestowitz | It never caught | Oct 03 13:33 |
| schestowitz | It never caught on | Oct 03 13:33 |
| schestowitz | With mobile devices that have poor input this might be useful | Oct 03 13:33 |
| fewa | Google trained theirs with their GOOG411 service | Oct 03 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Or for combat zones | Oct 03 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has TellME | Oct 03 13:33 |
| schestowitz | Nothijng came out of it | Oct 03 13:33 |
| fewa | Microsoft cant innovate anything | Oct 03 13:34 |
| schestowitz | The TellMe people quit this year | Oct 03 13:34 |
| schestowitz | Or last year | Oct 03 13:34 |
| fewa | the only decent products they have had are bought from others | Oct 03 13:34 |
| schestowitz | "Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products.:" | Oct 03 13:34 |
| schestowitz | --MS http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39286351,00.htm | Oct 03 13:34 |
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| fewa | Flight Simulator, Halo, even Powerpoint | Oct 03 13:34 |
| schestowitz | PowerPoint too, eh? | Oct 03 13:34 |
| fewa | yep | Oct 03 13:34 |
| schestowitz | Sominyi was a buy also? Maybe? | Oct 03 13:35 |
| schestowitz | That goes a long way back | Oct 03 13:35 |
| schestowitz | 1980s | Oct 03 13:35 |
| fewa | that was that bbc wash article | Oct 03 13:35 |
| fewa | but it did awknowledge that Microsoft bought powerpoint | Oct 03 13:35 |
| schestowitz | BBC is not news | Oct 03 13:35 |
| fewa | I know | Oct 03 13:35 |
| schestowitz | BBC is the sort porn of news | Oct 03 13:35 |
| fewa | it was a thing from Microsoft | Oct 03 13:35 |
| schestowitz | News for toddlers | Oct 03 13:35 |
| fewa | but Microsoft cant deny history to their employees | Oct 03 13:35 |
| schestowitz | And adult kids | Oct 03 13:35 |
| fewa | ...well | Oct 03 13:35 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] If newspapers die, what happens to investigative journalism? I'd listen to this argument more if they did much. http://is.gd/3Ueiq | Oct 03 13:35 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Perhaps The Real Problem With Newspapers Is All That Extra Overhead... | Techdirt .::. Size~: 37.92 KB | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | They whitewashed when Gated departed | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Kaper was totally pissed off | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | *Kapor | Oct 03 13:36 |
| fewa | probably didn't cover Allchin | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | They let him change history by words | Oct 03 13:36 |
| fewa | Gates propaganda was all over the place | Oct 03 13:36 |
| fewa | I bet they paid alot | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | He pays for it | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Buys papers and stuff | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | PR agentsa | Oct 03 13:36 |
| fewa | /s/they/he/ | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Image building | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Pop stars have those too | Oct 03 13:36 |
| schestowitz | Important rich bastards paying people to buy themselves an "image management" thing | Oct 03 13:37 |
| fewa | I see his shit in all the paid off media | Oct 03 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Not just companies | Oct 03 13:37 |
| schestowitz | People too | Oct 03 13:37 |
| fewa | political figures do it too | Oct 03 13:37 |
| fewa | Bill Gates | Oct 03 13:37 |
| fewa | **** | Oct 03 13:37 |
| fewa | whoops | Oct 03 13:37 |
| fewa | Bill Clinton | Oct 03 13:37 |
| schestowitz | Like when Chris Brown hit Rihanna and then hires some PR bunnies to spin the stories | Oct 03 13:37 |
| schestowitz | COntrol minds | Oct 03 13:37 |
| fewa | "clinton global initivive" | Oct 03 13:37 |
| fewa | After _Clinton_ was the one that signed the repeal of Glass-Steagell | Oct 03 13:38 |
| fewa | The repeal of banking regulation, and many of the things that led to this collapse | Oct 03 13:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itnewsonline.com/showprnstory.php?storyid=66836 | Oct 03 13:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 13:40 |
| phIRCe | Title: IT News Online > - - Allscripts Reports Fiscal 2010 First Quarter Results .::. Size~: 42.61 KB | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | A Microsoft | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Windows Media Player web replay will be available four hours after the | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | conclusion of the call for a period of two weeks at www.allscripts.com or by | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | calling (800) 642-1687 - or (706) 645-9291 for international callers - ID # | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | 27582277. | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Why not just list a STANDARD | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | They prescribe apps | Oct 03 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Proprietary ones no less | Oct 03 13:40 |
| fewa | o yes | Oct 03 13:41 |
| fewa | means they arenot worth listening to | Oct 03 13:41 |
| schestowitz | w3 validator is back online | Oct 03 13:43 |
| schestowitz | fewa: new list: | Oct 03 13:45 |
| schestowitz | Here are the goodest [sic] people in the world: | Oct 03 13:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33092678/ns/business-forbescom/ | Oct 03 13:45 |
| phIRCe | Title: Gates, Buffett again top Forbes’ list of richest - Forbes.com- msnbc.com .::. Size~: 53.05 KB | Oct 03 13:45 |
| schestowitz | They did so much good that MSNBC says they must have saved our world | Oct 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Awwwwwwwww :-) :-) | Oct 03 13:46 |
| fewa | schestowitz, they are not the richiest | Oct 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | I know | Oct 03 13:46 |
| fewa | they are fudging the numbers | Oct 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | The known ones | Oct 03 13:46 |
| fewa | bill gates is _way_ down | Oct 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Not the Rothschild dynasties and all | Oct 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | And Slim is there | Oct 03 13:46 |
| fewa | its Carlos of Mexico telecom monopoly fortune | Oct 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | One among many Mexican oligarchs | Oct 03 13:46 |
| schestowitz | Like in Soviet Russia | Oct 03 13:46 |
| ThistleWeb | schestowitz: I see you're booked for FLOSS Weekly | Oct 03 13:47 |
| schestowitz | They should rename this Forbes list "the US oligarchs" | Oct 03 13:47 |
| schestowitz | It will change people's perspective | Oct 03 13:47 |
| schestowitz | No euphemisms :-) | Oct 03 13:47 |
| fewa | the Indian steel magnate | Oct 03 13:47 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: how did you know? | Oct 03 13:47 |
| ThistleWeb | sorry, was it not supposed to be public? | Oct 03 13:48 |
| schestowitz | It is | Oct 03 13:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm just curious | Oct 03 13:48 |
| ThistleWeb | jono's twitter | Oct 03 13:48 |
| fewa | IKEA's Ingvar Kamprad | Oct 03 13:48 |
| fewa | and Bill's numbers are based on the Microsoft stock price | Oct 03 13:48 |
| fewa | which is based on a bunch of basically worthless software and patents | Oct 03 13:48 |
| fewa | at least in the long term | Oct 03 13:48 |
| schestowitz | He's quitting MSFT stock | Oct 03 13:48 |
| fewa | Forbes list is a joke | Oct 03 13:49 |
| schestowitz | Now he's in colonialism and drug ransom | Oct 03 13:49 |
| schestowitz | fewa: Forbes is a joke | Oct 03 13:49 |
| schestowitz | David Gerard has a joke about it | Oct 03 13:49 |
| schestowitz | Which he repeated in BN like 3 times | Oct 03 13:49 |
| schestowitz | Forbes is for people who want to be rich | Oct 03 13:49 |
| fewa | its about promoting the american myth | Oct 03 13:49 |
| schestowitz | But rich people don't read it | Oct 03 13:49 |
| fewa | ^^^^ | Oct 03 13:49 |
| schestowitz | fewa: no myth, dream(R) | Oct 03 13:49 |
| fewa | You have to read the great gatsby | Oct 03 13:50 |
| schestowitz | In WSJ they show an average American Home... | Oct 03 13:50 |
| schestowitz | Hold on... | Oct 03 13:50 |
| fewa | funny thing is that the rich embellish that book | Oct 03 13:50 |
| fewa | and miss its irony | Oct 03 13:50 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704471504574441322228958830.html | Oct 03 13:50 |
| phIRCe | Title: Rick Crandall's Aspen Home: Views, Totem Pole, Banjorchestra - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 144.41 KB | Oct 03 13:50 |
| schestowitz | This is what Americans live like. | Oct 03 13:50 |
| schestowitz | "Novell chairman's Aspen home reflects his diverse pursuits." | Oct 03 13:50 |
| *schestowitz wonders if the people who build this house also live in it | Oct 03 13:51 | |
| Diablo-D3 | [08:51:08] <schestowitz> This is what Americans live like. | Oct 03 13:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont think so, Tim | Oct 03 13:51 |
| fewa | http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/f/fitzgerald/f_scott/gatsby/complete.html | Oct 03 13:51 |
| fewa | great book | Oct 03 13:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'd never live in a house that garish | Oct 03 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: oh, wait | Oct 03 13:51 |
| phIRCe | Title: eBooks@Adelaide: Free Web Books, Online .::. Size~: 11.76 KB | Oct 03 13:51 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: must be "tough love" | Oct 03 13:51 |
| schestowitz | "Love for them, tough for everybody else" | Oct 03 13:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | in fact, the house should probably be torn down | Oct 03 13:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | its an eye sore | Oct 03 13:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | plant more trees | Oct 03 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft hooks up with banksters quite a lot in the past month: http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/180690.asp | Oct 03 13:52 |
| schestowitz | BNY | Oct 03 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Now Citi | Oct 03 13:52 |
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| schestowitz | And they also do the stimulus thing with obamAA | Oct 03 13:52 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: that's just how Wall Street (Journal) keeps the investor types ambitious | Oct 03 13:53 |
| fewa | Lots of rich people live in modest circumstances | Oct 03 13:54 |
| fewa | even the super-rich | Oct 03 13:54 |
| fewa | ie Warren Buffet | Oct 03 13:54 |
| schestowitz | Eventually, if they 'succeed' (money== success, remember that) they'll get the 5th cars and the 50th toilet boot | Oct 03 13:54 |
| fewa | it provides all he needs | Oct 03 13:54 |
| schestowitz | *booth | Oct 03 13:54 |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: um | Oct 03 13:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | wow, I must be the wrong sort of investor then | Oct 03 13:55 |
| schestowitz | fewa: ego is not a need to him? | Oct 03 13:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im in it for the money, not shitty cars | Oct 03 13:55 |
| fewa | http://onlythesuperrich.org/ | Oct 03 13:55 |
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| fewa | schestowitz, some people do it cause they can | Oct 03 13:55 |
| schestowitz | Either way, he too is a troublemaker if you ask the right people (those who are affected, no techies) | Oct 03 13:55 |
| fewa | schestowitz, also ego does not equal garrish | Oct 03 13:55 |
| fewa | there are other, more egalitarian ways of expressing ego | Oct 03 13:56 |
| schestowitz | fewa: great tag line | Oct 03 13:56 |
| schestowitz | "Only the super rich can save us" | Oct 03 13:56 |
| schestowitz | That's the myth sold to us | Oct 03 13:56 |
| fewa | its a work of "optimistic utopia" | Oct 03 13:56 |
| schestowitz | Gates will save African by making them Pfiezer addicts, Trump will build many houses and kill trees and stupid animals.... | Oct 03 13:57 |
| schestowitz | Icahn will destroy ;'redundant' companies | Oct 03 13:57 |
| schestowitz | "Investor activist" they call him | Oct 03 13:57 |
| schestowitz | I call him "infestor narcissist" | Oct 03 13:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220300269 | Oct 03 13:58 |
| fewa | schestowitz, read the book/democracynow interview | Oct 03 13:58 |
| fewa | its more complicated than that | Oct 03 13:58 |
| fewa | I want to read it | Oct 03 13:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/mobile/m/FullArticle/eUK/CBUSUK/nbusinessNews_uUKTRE59034620091001?p=1 | Oct 03 13:58 |
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| schestowitz | Goldman knows all | Oct 03 13:59 |
| fewa | <schestowitz> Gates will save African by making them Pfiezer addicts | Oct 03 13:59 |
| fewa | patent "believers" | Oct 03 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Ewww.. | Oct 03 13:59 |
| fewa | doesn't matter if they use the drugs | Oct 03 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/10/03/0440230/Nvidia-Fakes-Fermi-Boards-At-GPU-Tech-Conference?from=rss | Oct 03 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Don't search Google Images for "cyclop" | Oct 03 13:59 |
| phIRCe | Title: Slashdot | Nvidia Fakes Fermi Boards At GPU Tech Conference .::. Size~: 86.01 KB | Oct 03 13:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: run with that. | Oct 03 13:59 |
| fewa | its the imperialism of US broken patent laws | Oct 03 14:00 |
| fewa | and patents | Oct 03 14:00 |
| schestowitz | I just tried finding the mythical creature | Oct 03 14:00 |
| fewa | India had a sane patent system in 60s | Oct 03 14:00 |
| schestowitz | Got serves bad embryos | Oct 03 14:00 |
| fewa | since had completely abandoned and semblence of a sane policy | Oct 03 14:00 |
| schestowitz | *rved | Oct 03 14:00 |
| _Hicham_ | Bill Gates! Bill Gates! | Oct 03 14:00 |
| _Hicham_ | I liked the Jordanian video about MS vs Open Source | Oct 03 14:01 |
| fewa | but their policy worked when they had it, when it was not drafted by monsanto, BSA, etc | Oct 03 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Oct 03 14:01 |
| _Hicham_ | "Death to Mozilla, Death to Linux", hahahahahaha | Oct 03 14:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/01/google-gmail-inotes-technology-cio-network-ibm.html | Oct 03 14:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: IBM Aims To Undercut Gmail - Forbes.com .::. Size~: 30.1 KB | Oct 03 14:02 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : do u remember the video ? | Oct 03 14:02 |
| schestowitz | _Hicham_: yes | Oct 03 14:02 |
| _Hicham_ | it is called the "Last Patch" | Oct 03 14:02 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft loves hate | Oct 03 14:02 |
| schestowitz | War is piece (of s) | Oct 03 14:02 |
| fewa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDlYcn5HEs8 | Oct 03 14:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Russ Feingold on the New FISA Legislation .::. Size~: 129.79 KB | Oct 03 14:02 |
| schestowitz | fewa: old news, no? | Oct 03 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Even Skype is more secure | Oct 03 14:04 |
| schestowitz | They can't log it properly in most places | Oct 03 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Or PGP | Oct 03 14:04 |
| fewa | schestowitz, nope | Oct 03 14:04 |
| fewa | eBay has a key that opens all Skype communications | Oct 03 14:04 |
| schestowitz | Do they log it though? | Oct 03 14:04 |
| schestowitz | It's very large | Oct 03 14:04 |
| fewa | if they havn't given this out, then maybe a modicum more secure than unencrypted | Oct 03 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Also, they would need to p2p onto own server | Oct 03 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Maybe if you're on 'the' list | Oct 03 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Then watch where your traffic goes | Oct 03 14:05 |
| fewa | lots of Skype goes through their server | Oct 03 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Whether just to the person on the other side of the line | Oct 03 14:05 |
| fewa | cause of NATs | Oct 03 14:05 |
| schestowitz | Check IPs | Oct 03 14:05 |
| fewa | and that would only be Skype-to-Skype | Oct 03 14:05 |
| fewa | much better to do SIP w/ encryption | Oct 03 14:05 |
| fewa | such as IPSEC | Oct 03 14:06 |
| schestowitz | encryption that's yours would slow packetisation, but it it possible with FOSS clients? | Oct 03 14:07 |
| schestowitz | Like ekiga? | Oct 03 14:07 |
| fewa | i dont know | Oct 03 14:08 |
| fewa | i think its part of SIP protocol | Oct 03 14:08 |
| fewa | certainly possible | Oct 03 14:08 |
| fewa | XMPP has encryption, which is used ubiquituously | Oct 03 14:08 |
| fewa | however the server can see your communication with XMPP version | Oct 03 14:08 |
| fewa | (i think) | Oct 03 14:09 |
| schestowitz | http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2009/10/01/localcom-says-merger-report-is-false/14917/ | Oct 03 14:10 |
| phIRCe | Title: Local.com says Microsoft merger report is false - OC Business News - OCRegister.com .::. Size~: 109.95 KB | Oct 03 14:10 |
| schestowitz | false rumour | Oct 03 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Purpose? | Oct 03 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Dell will save Russia | Oct 03 14:12 |
| schestowitz | http://austin.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2009/09/28/daily48.html | Oct 03 14:12 |
| phIRCe | Title: Michael Dell remains second-richest Texan - Austin Business Journal: .::. Size~: 72.5 KB | Oct 03 14:12 |
| schestowitz | http://austin.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2009/09/28/daily48.html | Oct 03 14:13 |
| phIRCe | Title: Michael Dell remains second-richest Texan - Austin Business Journal: .::. Size~: 72.39 KB | Oct 03 14:13 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/UseNet/2009/February_2009/msg01601.html | Oct 03 14:13 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&hl=en-GB&v=OMR1BZ9aYM8&gl=GB | Oct 03 14:13 |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Putin answers questions at Davos .::. Size~: 149.68 KB | Oct 03 14:13 |
| fewa | GB, GB, GB, GB, GB, GB | Oct 03 14:14 |
| fewa | tracking, tracking, tracking, tracking, tracking | Oct 03 14:14 |
| fewa | ahh yes old | Oct 03 14:14 |
| fewa | Dell was being an asshole | Oct 03 14:14 |
| fewa | huge fucking ego | Oct 03 14:15 |
| schestowitz | I know, that's my point | Oct 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | The Americans -- more than most -- think the world revolves around them (no offence intended) | Oct 03 14:16 |
| fewa | trying to tell the leader of a country what to do | Oct 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | I think the UK used to be the same | Oct 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | When it was an empire for many years | Oct 03 14:16 |
| schestowitz | There's still the language pride when English is the global de facto lang | Oct 03 14:17 |
| fewa | <schestowitz> The Americans | Oct 03 14:17 |
| schestowitz | The Ameircans have the dollars to go by | Oct 03 14:17 |
| schestowitz | fewa: USian | Oct 03 14:17 |
| fewa | you understand that is a support of the Monroe doctrin | Oct 03 14:17 |
| schestowitz | I say Americans in the sort of typical meaning | Oct 03 14:17 |
| fewa | that US is the leader of all of america | Oct 03 14:17 |
| schestowitz | Like "you guys" meaning both guys and girls | Oct 03 14:17 |
| schestowitz | Heh.. | Oct 03 14:17 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine | Oct 03 14:18 |
| phIRCe | Title: Monroe Doctrine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 114.42 KB | Oct 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | I never thought about it that way | Oct 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | It presumes Washington is the centre of the continent | Oct 03 14:18 |
| fewa | "America for the Americans" | Oct 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | To be fair, in terms of impact on the world, the US outweighs all the continent combined | Oct 03 14:18 |
| schestowitz | "The Monroe Doctrine was a United States policy that was introduced on December 2, 1823, which said that further efforts by European governments to colonize land or interfere with states in the Americas would be viewed by the United States of America as acts of aggression requiring US intervention.[1]" | Oct 03 14:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR says "USIa" | Oct 03 14:19 |
| schestowitz | Which sounds a but like in 1984 | Oct 03 14:19 |
| fewa | :P | Oct 03 14:19 |
| schestowitz | So I avoid it | Oct 03 14:19 |
| schestowitz | It's derogatory in a way | Oct 03 14:19 |
| fewa | latin america and south american interventionism by US is not new, and has not stopped | Oct 03 14:20 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Institute_for_Security_Cooperation ie "school of the americas" | Oct 03 14:20 |
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| fewa | http://soaw.org/ | Oct 03 14:20 |
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| MinceR | i say "usian" :) | Oct 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | I know | Oct 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | Usian army | Oct 03 14:21 |
| fewa | Honduras Coup, where the US govt continues to give money to the Coup government | Oct 03 14:21 |
| fewa | Bolivia, Venezwela | Oct 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | RMS has written a lot about it ecently | Oct 03 14:21 |
| fewa | The "liberation" of panama | Oct 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | There's loads of stuff going on there | Oct 03 14:21 |
| schestowitz | Haiti | Oct 03 14:21 |
| fewa | ..until Carter set it free ! | Oct 03 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Probably the poorest population in the hemisphere | Oct 03 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Haiti reminds me of ICeman | Oct 03 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Sierra game | Oct 03 14:22 |
| fewa | Haiti is the only country that has been created by a slave revolt | Oct 03 14:22 |
| schestowitz | I think the setting was Haiti. Or maybe another place | Oct 03 14:22 |
| fewa | it was 2:1 african:european | Oct 03 14:22 |
| fewa | all native americans long whiped out | Oct 03 14:23 |
| fewa | I am not versed, but i have heard that is due to internal corruption | Oct 03 14:23 |
| fewa | in Haiti, problems such as complete deforrestation | Oct 03 14:25 |
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| schestowitz | Misinformed Microsoft spin: http://www.itweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26747:microsoft-drives-content-management&catid=118:financial&Itemid=66 | Oct 03 14:29 |
| schestowitz | Content management is power by LAMP usually with FOSS at the very top | Oct 03 14:30 |
| schestowitz | fewa: maybe another Easter Island in the making | Oct 03 14:30 |
| schestowitz | I heard they get bacteria and stuff out of, well... dirt and mushrooms or somehting | Oct 03 14:31 |
| schestowitz | Don't know if it's true, but I got the impression hunger is real there | Oct 03 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I don't know enoug about it though | Oct 03 14:31 |
| fewa | http://images.craigslist.org/3nc3pe3lb5Of5Td5R799lba683fef8ad21d4f.jpg | Oct 03 14:33 |
| phIRCe | Title: Not a web page! Aborting... .::. Size~: Too big! | Oct 03 14:33 |
| fewa | lol phIRCe | Oct 03 14:33 |
| MinceR | see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_for_U.S._citizens#Alternate_terms | Oct 03 14:34 |
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| fewa | Yank really only referrers to New England | Oct 03 14:34 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-must-make-more-apps-for-the-iphone-2009-9 | Oct 03 14:35 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft Must Make More Apps For The iPhone (MSFT, AAPL) .::. Size~: 70.8 KB | Oct 03 14:35 |
| fewa | During the 18th century | Oct 03 14:35 |
| fewa | even at the end | Oct 03 14:35 |
| fewa | everyone was known by their state | Oct 03 14:35 |
| fewa | ie virginian | Oct 03 14:36 |
| fewa | that tradition is still being held by congress | Oct 03 14:36 |
| fewa | "the gentlemen from New York" | Oct 03 14:36 |
| fewa | etc | Oct 03 14:36 |
| schestowitz | Maybe we should call people from Asia "Chinese" | Oct 03 14:37 |
| schestowitz | To make things stand out | Oct 03 14:37 |
| schestowitz | People from Russia will be "Chinese" | Oct 03 14:37 |
| schestowitz | And people from India too | Oct 03 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Cause it's the 'boss' of the continent | Oct 03 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Or. | Oct 03 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Call the Chinese "Asians" | Oct 03 14:38 |
| schestowitz | And the rest by their nationality | Oct 03 14:38 |
| schestowitz | As though China is 'the' Asian country | Oct 03 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Then, in Africa you could say that Nigeria has the largest population | Oct 03 14:39 |
| schestowitz | And then call Kenyans "Kenyans" | Oct 03 14:39 |
| schestowitz | And to "Nigerians" "Africans" | Oct 03 14:39 |
| schestowitz | That would help people understand the "American" habit (US=America) | Oct 03 14:39 |
| schestowitz | But the US is composed of many states to be fair | Oct 03 14:39 |
| fewa | no Russians will be "mongols" | Oct 03 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Which makes it unique | Oct 03 14:39 |
| fewa | and those from england "normans" | Oct 03 14:40 |
| schestowitz | It's hard to say United Statesian | Oct 03 14:40 |
| fewa | and those from france "romans" | Oct 03 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Like "GNU/Linux" versus "Linux" | Oct 03 14:40 |
| schestowitz | Linux in "GNU/Linux" is the US of the Free desktop | Oct 03 14:40 |
| fewa | and those from sicily "africans" | Oct 03 14:40 |
| MinceR | no, i thought it would be more appropriate to call Chinese people "Asians" but nobody else from Asia that! | Oct 03 14:40 |
| fewa | and those from the US "europeans" | Oct 03 14:41 |
| schestowitz | And those from Palestine "Israelis" | Oct 03 14:41 |
| fewa | lol | Oct 03 14:41 |
| schestowitz | And those from the Milky way "earthlings" | Oct 03 14:41 |
| schestowitz | That tiny blue dot | Oct 03 14:41 |
| MinceR | i'm a Universan! | Oct 03 14:41 |
| MinceR | and nobody else matters! ;) | Oct 03 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Quasarians would have you, MinceR | Oct 03 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Godsians | Oct 03 14:42 |
| fewa | That is actually something where we are in pretty good straights | Oct 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds | Oct 03 14:43 |
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| schestowitz | My name is Linus Torvalds and I am your god. | Oct 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | * Jokingly introducing himself, at the 1998 Linux Expo in Durham, North Carolina, as quoted in Under the Radar : How Red Hat Changed the Software Business — and Took Microsoft by Surprise (1999) by Robert Young and Wendy Goldman Rohm, p. 111; also quoted in Just for Fun : The Story of an Accidental Revolutionary (2001) by Linus Torvalds and David Diamond | Oct 03 14:43 |
| fewa | schestowitz, re: Dell | Oct 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25431 | Oct 03 14:43 |
| phIRCe | Title: Gamasutra - News - Microsoft Invests In South Korean Game Developers .::. Size~: 34.78 KB | Oct 03 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft teaches Windows-only development | Oct 03 14:44 |
| fewa | its part of the "cure of largeness" | Oct 03 14:44 |
| fewa | *curse | Oct 03 14:44 |
| trmanco | lol | Oct 03 14:44 |
| trmanco | gamasutra | Oct 03 14:44 |
| trmanco | that's a funny name | Oct 03 14:44 |
| fewa | *curse of bigness | Oct 03 14:44 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: yes, old name | Oct 03 14:44 |
| fewa | Louis Brandeis | Oct 03 14:44 |
| schestowitz | the gamasurta has the curse of largeness | Oct 03 14:44 |
| schestowitz | That ought to get one thinking | Oct 03 14:45 |
| fewa | or fleeing! | Oct 03 14:45 |
| schestowitz | MS has run out of engineers http://www.radio-canada.ca/radio/techno/commentaires-125934.shtml | Oct 03 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Now instead of curing the arm they just shop it off | Oct 03 14:47 |
| schestowitz | I can't wait until the next IE flaw | Oct 03 14:47 |
| trmanco | loool | Oct 03 14:47 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they'll just "disable" IE | Oct 03 14:47 |
| trmanco | give it a month | Oct 03 14:47 |
| schestowitz | That ought to resolve the issue | Oct 03 14:47 |
| schestowitz | /shop/chop/ | Oct 03 14:47 |
| schestowitz | chop *LOL* | Oct 03 14:47 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/17/gates-dad-ballmer-bank-allen-charter/ | Oct 03 14:48 |
| phIRCe | Title: Money Matters for Gates, Ballmer and Allen Families | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 124.03 KB | Oct 03 14:48 |
| schestowitz | In relation to the phrase “chop, chop, chop”, our reader points to Alice Cooper’a video/performance of “Chop, Chop Chop” and adds some lyrics... | Oct 03 14:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/17/business/17corner.html?ref=technology | Oct 03 14:48 |
| schestowitz | "My brain is just chop, chop, chop, chop, chop. And so, if you really want to get the best out of people" --SteveB | Oct 03 14:48 |
| phIRCe | Title: The New York Times > Log In .::. Size~: 9.74 KB | Oct 03 14:48 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/180575.asp?from=blog_last3 | Oct 03 14:49 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft reports executive salaries, bonuses .::. Size~: 68.49 KB | Oct 03 14:49 |
| schestowitz | When a company -- ANY company -- reduces wages of the elites, then you know something VERY horrible happened | Oct 03 14:50 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft will report next financial result EXACTLY ONE DAY after VIsta 7 launch | Oct 03 14:50 |
| schestowitz | It's intentional | Oct 03 14:50 |
| schestowitz | It's not just a coinicdence | Oct 03 14:50 |
| fewa | nice | Oct 03 14:50 |
| trmanco | ahhhhh | Oct 03 14:50 |
| trmanco | http://bitbucket.org/ | Oct 03 14:50 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure the bad results will be eclipse by Tupperware parties and shills | Oct 03 14:50 |
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| trmanco | right | Oct 03 14:51 |
| fewa | Tupperware parties | Oct 03 14:51 |
| fewa | lolol | Oct 03 14:51 |
| fewa | its such a joke | Oct 03 14:51 |
| fewa | what day? | Oct 03 14:51 |
| schestowitz | Has anyone heard of Surface lately? | Oct 03 14:52 |
| schestowitz | I think it's dead, dea. | Oct 03 14:52 |
| schestowitz | fewa: 23rd | Oct 03 14:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9138725/Microsoft_s_Ballmer_finds_wallet_a_little_lighter | Oct 03 14:52 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft's Ballmer finds wallet a little lighter .::. Size~: 126.62 KB | Oct 03 14:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft tries becoming a h/w company: http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/09/microsofts_cour.html;jsessionid=EAQU2TFOP03VVQE1GHRSKH4ATMY32JVN | Oct 03 14:53 |
| trmanco | amazon is b0rked | Oct 03 14:53 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft's Courier: It Could Happen - Microsoft Blog - InformationWeek .::. Size~: 91.48 KB | Oct 03 14:53 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: can you get album covers in amarok? | Oct 03 14:53 |
| schestowitz | It can't seem to connect | Oct 03 14:53 |
| trmanco | amazon is borked | Oct 03 14:53 |
| trmanco | ... | Oct 03 14:53 |
| schestowitz | I get album covers for streaming servuices | Oct 03 14:53 |
| trmanco | I'm still on 2.1 and I don't think it works | Oct 03 14:53 |
| schestowitz | But that's separate. It does scrape them off Amazon | Oct 03 14:53 |
| schestowitz | maybe they blocked it | Oct 03 14:53 |
| trmanco | I'll have to update to karmic to get the EQ with 2.2 | Oct 03 14:54 |
| schestowitz | This reminds me of the OLPC 2 prototypes that never came true: http://www.pcworld.com/article/172872/microsofts_courier_tablet_details_emerge.html | Oct 03 14:55 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft's Courier Tablet Details Emerge - PC World .::. Size~: 77.5 KB | Oct 03 14:55 |
| trmanco | from #bitbucket | Oct 03 14:55 |
| trmanco | "amazon decided to nuke their zone, which in turn means we're down. have to wait for them to fix it." | Oct 03 14:55 |
| schestowitz | They shows drawings and stuff and just sell dreams, not products | Oct 03 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Why change EQ/ | Oct 03 14:56 |
| schestowitz | I used to do it when I used laptop speakers cause they did bass poorly | Oct 03 14:56 |
| schestowitz | But the EQ work is pre-done at the studios | Oct 03 14:56 |
| trmanco | yes, but I need more "power" | Oct 03 14:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/sep/28/charlie-brooker-microsoft-mac-windows | Oct 03 14:57 |
| schestowitz | Something always had to be 'killed' for drama to exist: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/gadgets/2907481/Microsofts-Norton-killer-out-this-week | Oct 03 14:59 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft's 'Norton-killer' out this week | Stuff.co.nz .::. Size~: 41.98 KB | Oct 03 14:59 |
| schestowitz | Amarok2 has very thin menus, trmanco | Oct 03 14:59 |
| schestowitz | I think they decided to simplify it greatly | Oct 03 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Make it kind of light and the settings more friendly | Oct 03 15:00 |
| trmanco | 2.2 can now connect to remote mysql db's | Oct 03 15:00 |
| schestowitz | But some stuff that use to exist is missing or moved to extensions | Oct 03 15:00 |
| schestowitz | That's OK w/ me | Oct 03 15:00 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: what for? | Oct 03 15:00 |
| schestowitz | It's easy to program this by using the mysql functionality | Oct 03 15:00 |
| trmanco | for some people that find it useful | Oct 03 15:01 |
| schestowitz | But do you need some remove DB to telll you what to play locally? | Oct 03 15:01 |
| schestowitz | it's good if you play music at home and at work | Oct 03 15:01 |
| schestowitz | And want to synch playlist | Oct 03 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Most people will not know how to program/set up a mysql server, but they can make a gui for it | Oct 03 15:02 |
| schestowitz | MysQL bookmarks in Konq would be good | Oct 03 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Or just a file that's kept on a shared server with the bookmarks | Oct 03 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Firefox has that | Oct 03 15:02 |
| schestowitz | But third partiies | Oct 03 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Google also | Oct 03 15:02 |
| schestowitz | Good Google search obviated the need for a high % of boommark accesses | Oct 03 15:03 |
| schestowitz | You could type something in the Bookmark filter or scroll at the same time that a "I'm feeling lucky" would take | Oct 03 15:03 |
| fewa | mysql is a pain | Oct 03 15:04 |
| fewa | they could at least make a helpful console or something | Oct 03 15:04 |
| fewa | there is a gui that is decent, but it cant do anything | Oct 03 15:04 |
| fewa | *everything | Oct 03 15:05 |
| fewa | :P | Oct 03 15:05 |
| schestowitz | Can this count as a dead product? http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/microsoft-terminating-musiwave-operator-deals/2009-10-02 | Oct 03 15:06 |
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| schestowitz | http://virtualizationreview.com/articles/2009/10/02/microsoft-unmoved-by-published-smb-exploit.aspx | Oct 03 15:07 |
| schestowitz | From a Microsoft manageine | Oct 03 15:07 |
| phIRCe | Title: Bug in Server Message Block Still Unpatched -- Virtualization Review .::. Size~: 50.78 KB | Oct 03 15:07 |
| schestowitz | "Virtualization Review ." is a deceiving name | Oct 03 15:07 |
| schestowitz | It's Microsoft spin | Oct 03 15:07 |
| schestowitz | And it's from the "Microsoft press" | Oct 03 15:08 |
| *_Hicham_ has quit (Remote closed the connection) | Oct 03 15:08 | |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 15:08 |
| schestowitz | # Redmond Channel Partner | Oct 03 15:08 |
| schestowitz | # Redmond Developer News | Oct 03 15:08 |
| schestowitz | # Redmond Events | Oct 03 15:08 |
| schestowitz | # Redmond Media Group | Oct 03 15:08 |
| schestowitz | # Redmond Report | Oct 03 15:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 03 15:08 |
| fewa | there are hundreds, thousands of sites like that | Oct 03 15:09 |
| fewa | they are all clones | Oct 03 15:09 |
| fewa | "news" | Oct 03 15:09 |
| schestowitz | fewa: healthcare issues are solved at last!! http://kara.allthingsd.com/20091001/msn-debuts-health/ | Oct 03 15:10 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft Launches Online Health Service, My Health Info | Kara Swisher | BoomTown | AllThingsD .::. Size~: 56.97 KB | Oct 03 15:10 |
| schestowitz | Just pass it all to Microsoft. Trust them,. | Oct 03 15:10 |
| fewa | lol | Oct 03 15:10 |
| schestowitz | download your data as OOXML and view in Win/IE using Silver Lie | Oct 03 15:10 |
| fewa | Give away all your data to Microsoft | Oct 03 15:10 |
| schestowitz | WHy not? | Oct 03 15:11 |
| schestowitz | It's easier | Oct 03 15:11 |
| fewa | cause they totally have the reputation of creating secure systems for protecting expremely private data | Oct 03 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Off your mind | Oct 03 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Out of sight, out of mind | Oct 03 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Take orders from your leaders | Oct 03 15:11 |
| schestowitz | It's easy | Oct 03 15:11 |
| schestowitz | Join the military | Oct 03 15:11 |
| fewa | in a way that _totally_ doesn't have a NSA backdoor | Oct 03 15:11 |
| fewa | http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/5/5263/1.html | Oct 03 15:11 |
| phIRCe | Title: TP: How NSA access was built into Windows .::. Size~: 30.38 KB | Oct 03 15:11 |
| schestowitz | NSA=National Service of health Authority | Oct 03 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Like NHS for the US :-) :-) | Oct 03 15:12 |
| fewa | :P | Oct 03 15:12 |
| fewa | hahaha | Oct 03 15:12 |
| schestowitz | No Such Agency>? | Oct 03 15:12 |
| schestowitz | National Assassination Agency? | Oct 03 15:13 |
| fewa | yeah it took decades for congress just to admit it existed | Oct 03 15:13 |
| schestowitz | No, that would be CIA, with help from FBI | Oct 03 15:13 |
| schestowitz | The S stands for security :0 | Oct 03 15:13 |
| fewa | For many years, its existence was not even acknowledged by the U.S. government, earning it the nickname, "No Such Agency" (NSA). | Oct 03 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Like in Homeland Security | Oct 03 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Or the "D" in IDF | Oct 03 15:13 |
| fewa | Stasi | Oct 03 15:13 |
| schestowitz | We're always the victims under attack | Oct 03 15:13 |
| schestowitz | Must. Defend. Self. | Oct 03 15:13 |
| fewa | Staatssicherheit, literally State Security | Oct 03 15:14 |
| schestowitz | The Nazis invaded Poland claiming it would improve security if what I read is true | Oct 03 15:14 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stasi | Oct 03 15:14 |
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| fewa | Hitler was nominated for the Nobel peace prize | Oct 03 15:14 |
| fewa | in 1939 | Oct 03 15:14 |
| fewa | http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/nomination.php?action=show&showid=2609 | Oct 03 15:14 |
| phIRCe | Title: Nomination database .::. Size~: 13.03 KB | Oct 03 15:14 |
| *schestowitz looks | Oct 03 15:15 | |
| fewa | by a member of the Swedish parliment | Oct 03 15:15 |
| schestowitz | What went wrong? /sarcasm | Oct 03 15:15 |
| trmanco | typo | Oct 03 15:15 |
| trmanco | :-P | Oct 03 15:15 |
| schestowitz | Well, Nobel was Swedish | Oct 03 15:15 |
| fewa | and he created a weapon of mass destruction | Oct 03 15:15 |
| trmanco | that is sure a peacemaker | Oct 03 15:16 |
| fewa | so a peace prize is kinda ironic | Oct 03 15:16 |
| trmanco | sure is* | Oct 03 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Blue Screed of Death: http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/180741.asp?from=blog_last3 | Oct 03 15:17 |
| phIRCe | Title: MSN launches beta service for managing health .::. Size~: 57.49 KB | Oct 03 15:17 |
| schestowitz | I'm not even going to comment on it :-) | Oct 03 15:17 |
| schestowitz | No-one pays attention to this 'product', luckily | Oct 03 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the Mother TeresaGates will market this service when selling drugs to governments | Oct 03 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Make it a bundle | Oct 03 15:18 |
| schestowitz | We give you patents to flue vaccine, you buy a contract for healthcare with Microsoft | Oct 03 15:18 |
| schestowitz | "Give us all your records!" | Oct 03 15:18 |
| schestowitz | "Or else your people will die from flu" | Oct 03 15:18 |
| schestowitz | Easily curable | Oct 03 15:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Newmarket-Technology-Inc-OTC-NWMT-1052529.html | Oct 03 15:19 |
| phIRCe | Title: NewMarket Technology, Inc. Announces $2.5 Million Contract to Provide Microsoft Solution to Oil Company .::. Size~: 13.4 KB | Oct 03 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft + Oil + <3 | Oct 03 15:19 |
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| schestowitz | http://sev.prnewswire.com/banking-financial-services/20090929/NY8339129092009-1.html | Oct 03 15:33 |
| schestowitz | "In June, Microsoft announced plans to discontinue its Microsoft Money desktop PFM software as of January 31, 2011, leaving millions of users without a good alternative." | Oct 03 15:33 |
| phIRCe | Title: Yodlee, Inc. :: Yodlee Introduces Financial Data Converter for Users of Microsoft Money .::. Size~: 12.52 KB | Oct 03 15:33 |
| _Hicham_ | latest reports have stated that schestowitz is a big candidate for the next richest man on earth | Oct 03 15:38 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Revealed: millions spent by lobbyists fighting Obama health reforms http://tinyurl.com/yanjhyp | Oct 03 15:57 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/VOIP-and-Telephony/ATandT-Tells-FCC-Google-Voice-Violates-Network-Neutrality-Laws-697091/ | Oct 03 16:26 |
| phIRCe | Title: ATandT Tells FCC Google Voice Violates Network Neutrality Laws .::. Size~: 108.26 KB | Oct 03 16:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @santhoshtr: Inkscape, DTP, Hyphenation : http://bit.ly/311MKX (new blogpost) | Oct 03 16:26 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Inkscape hyphenation extension Santhosh Thottingal .::. Size~: 43.07 KB | Oct 03 16:27 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/oct2006/gb20061005_846432.htm | Oct 03 16:46 |
| phIRCe | Title: Airbus: First, Blame the Software .::. Size~: 40.04 KB | Oct 03 16:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/09/24/microsoft-using-scare-tactics-for-google-browser-extension | Oct 03 16:50 |
| phIRCe | Title: Microsoft Using Scare Tactics For Google Browser Extension? | WebProNews .::. Size~: 47.13 KB | Oct 03 16:51 |
| schestowitz | "When Ruby on Rails creator David Heinemeier Hansson put out a call to get more women interested in Rails, he caused a bit of a stir. " | Oct 03 17:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Management/Wooing-Women-Aboard-Ruby-on-Rails-298425/ | Oct 03 17:08 |
| phIRCe | Title: Wooing Women Aboard Ruby on Rails .::. Size~: 97.46 KB | Oct 03 17:08 |
| schestowitz | "The Transaction Processing Performance Council (TPC), of which Oracle is a member, said it had asked Oracle to pay a US$10,000 fine for the violation." | Oct 03 17:09 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/172931/oracle_fined_by_tpc_over_benchmarking_claims.html | Oct 03 17:09 |
| phIRCe | Title: Oracle Fined by TPC Over Benchmarking Claims - Business Center - PC World .::. Size~: 45.23 KB | Oct 03 17:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @hfactor http://is.gd/3UrNL Jain shows the 'wonders' in Calicut University Computer Science question paper! | Oct 03 17:09 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Calicut University style of “Computer Science Engineering” ! - Cronjob Chronicle .::. Size~: 21.57 KB | Oct 03 17:10 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Having a bit of fun with #quakelive on my #ubuntu desktop. *blam* *blam* Yahaaaa! I lose.. oh. My nick is popeydc if you want a game. | Oct 03 17:47 | |
| trmanco | http://29a.ch/jswars/ | Oct 03 18:16 |
| phIRCe | Title: JS WARS — 29a.ch - Jonas Wagner's Blog .::. Size~: 10.99 KB | Oct 03 18:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] ♻ @mozhacks: This canvas video game has a soundtrack you can really rock out to: http://29a.ch/jswars/ | Oct 03 18:16 | |
| phIRCe | Title: JS WARS — 29a.ch - Jonas Wagner's Blog .::. Size~: 10.99 KB | Oct 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | http://xkcd.com/644/ | Oct 03 18:17 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Red Hat has been up almost 300%! http://bit.ly/15nTIJ | Oct 03 18:32 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Red Hat Investors Are Overpaying -- Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 67.34 KB | Oct 03 18:33 |
| trmanco | http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/10/02/simplepie-ceases-development/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=simplepie-ceases-development | Oct 03 18:41 |
| phIRCe | Title: SimplePie Ceases Development .::. Size~: 27.64 KB | Oct 03 18:41 |
| schestowitz | I ought to post some Linux news. So much good stuff. | Oct 03 18:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Does Well Even Without Marketing http://bit.ly/akraN | Oct 03 19:11 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Linux Has No Marketing, But What if it Did? .::. Size~: 33.1 KB | Oct 03 19:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista Disappointment Leads Man to #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/3pew0 Great story telling | Oct 03 19:13 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Blog of helios: The Twisting Path To Linux .::. Size~: 127.9 KB | Oct 03 19:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Library Runs #GNU Linux on 28 Machines http://www.pcworld.com/article/173009/article.html | Oct 03 19:15 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Google SketchUp Delights the Mind - PC World .::. Size~: 67.28 KB | Oct 03 19:15 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux #Privacy Enhancer ( #BleachBit ) Released http://bit.ly/1FI8dV | Oct 03 19:26 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Open source privacy enhancer BleachBit 0.6.5 released .::. Size~: 20.62 KB | Oct 03 19:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Loads of Powerful #KDE4 Software Comes http://bit.ly/lS5Ar http://bit.ly/50XOQ http://bit.ly/15yOz9 http://bit.ly/oj5Y1 | Oct 03 19:27 | |
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| phIRCe | Title: aseigo: small steps every forward .::. Size~: 95.32 KB | Oct 03 19:28 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Top Themes for #GNOME Desktop Environments http://bit.ly/3nT6A9 | Oct 03 19:29 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Precompiled #Gentoo ( #Sabayon ) Released as Version 5 http://wgo.wolf911.us/?p=240 http://bit.ly/s7zlb | Oct 03 19:33 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Sabayon Linux x86/x86-64 5.o GNOME and KDE Released .::. Size~: 41.75 KB | Oct 03 19:34 |
| phIRCe | Title: www.sabayonlinux.org • View topic - Sabayon Linux 5.0 GNOME and KDE: Stable release .::. Size~: 47.17 KB | Oct 03 19:34 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] The TCP/IP stack of Windows 7 is a mess. Can't just connect two switches. Have to use the router function of both routers. Trafic is SLOW! | Oct 03 19:36 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Signs More Government Deals and Teaches #FOSS http://bit.ly/XnKte http://bit.ly/PHXKT | Oct 03 19:36 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Peruvian Government Agency Improves Employee Collaboration with Open Source Solutions from Red Hat, Alfresco and Zimbra .::. Size~: 54.59 KB | Oct 03 19:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Installed Windows 7 RC1 and Kubuntu 9.04 on my laptop. Updated KDE to 4.3.1 installed a few very nice additional plasmoids. | Oct 03 19:37 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu Gets Seamless More #Windows Binary Compatibility http://bit.ly/3Y0Cn | Oct 03 19:38 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 9.10 Beta Previews (Mostly Screenshots) http://bit.ly/3J963i http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=5726 | Oct 03 19:39 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 12 Reaches Alpha http://bit.ly/qi9Dx | Oct 03 19:40 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Manimum PC Covers #GNU #Linux Sub-notebook Options http://bit.ly/dJ2i8 | Oct 03 19:46 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Subnotebooks ( #ChromeOS ) to Come Soon, Maybe This Month http://bit.ly/E7j1f | Oct 03 19:48 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Rwandan Schools Run #GNU #Linux on #OLPC XOs (Video) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8268301.stm http://bit.ly/skoA1 | Oct 03 19:53 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Acer Throws #Windows (Mobile) to the Trash, Focuses on #Linux http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20091002PD211.html http://bit.ly/1suas | Oct 03 19:54 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Review of #ZaReason 's #GNU #Linux -only http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/6862/1/ | Oct 03 19:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OLPC Carries on Improving and Adds #GNOME to #Sugar http://bit.ly/IJgBB http://bit.ly/fkD2o | Oct 03 20:01 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Review of #Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 (Beta) - O/S Called Impressive http://bit.ly/pBi1w | Oct 03 20:03 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Test run: Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10 Beta on my Dell Mini 10v « Mathiaz's Weblog .::. Size~: 19.15 KB | Oct 03 20:03 |
| trmanco | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/03/conficker_infects_oxford_brookes/ | Oct 03 20:03 |
| phIRCe | Title: Conficker smites Oxford Brookes network • The Register .::. Size~: 23.07 KB | Oct 03 20:03 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] GNU/Linux with #Hadoop Keeps Flying Into More #Servers http://bit.ly/g5fnn http://bit.ly/Fofra | Oct 03 20:05 | |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: excellent | Oct 03 20:06 |
| schestowitz | More UK examples | Oct 03 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Big list and growing | Oct 03 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Plausible deniability wearing thin | Oct 03 20:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz you just *know* someone is going to buy you this as a Christmas present http://is.gd/3UMmK | Oct 03 20:09 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BritishTelecom Picks #FOSS for Analytics http://bit.ly/2134tG http://bit.ly/1M2AK8 | Oct 03 20:09 | |
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| phIRCe | Title: British Telecom picks Jaspersoft for analytics | Software, Interrupted - CNET News .::. Size~: 82.12 KB | Oct 03 20:09 |
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| MikeC_ | Hey Roy, here's one for you! | Oct 03 20:10 |
| MikeC_ | http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=230123 | Oct 03 20:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Surveys Show That #FreeSoftware is Winning Businesses http://bit.ly/1qjrXT http://bit.ly/1s0H3c http://bit.ly/orYmT | Oct 03 20:15 | |
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| phIRCe | Title: Chinese IT shops love the free-ness of open source • The Register .::. Size~: 23.86 KB | Oct 03 20:16 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, MikeC_ | Oct 03 20:18 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Australian #Law Reform Commission Embraces #FreeSoftware http://bit.ly/JuIgB | Oct 03 20:19 | |
| phIRCe | Title: ALRC going for open source CMS website - alrc, cms, drupal - Computerworld .::. Size~: 78.02 KB | Oct 03 20:19 |
| schestowitz | That "Surfing The Apocalypse" site looks like it was pulled from 1995 | Oct 03 20:19 |
| schestowitz | MikeC_: you're gonna come to Fitness First? | Oct 03 20:19 |
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| MikeC_ | I think i should how's the hair? | Oct 03 20:23 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Launches New security Project, More http://bit.ly/100hKP http://bit.ly/JF2HU | Oct 03 20:25 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Mozilla unveils cure for Web 2.0 world run amok • The Register .::. Size~: 25.18 KB | Oct 03 20:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] AMD's Latest Freedom/Openness Gesture http://bit.ly/NTEcp http://bit.ly/2ArJDy http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15772/1/ | Oct 03 20:27 | |
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| schestowitz | MikeC_: it's OK | Oct 03 20:28 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna go there tomorrow | Oct 03 20:28 |
| schestowitz | Need to practice | Oct 03 20:28 |
| MikeC_ | good idea, sid is looking good too, although he had an extra go at the sit ups this tuesday | Oct 03 20:31 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Python Power: Programming a Game in Just Minutes http://bit.ly/1LPFzC | Oct 03 20:32 | |
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| trmanco | oh gloss | Oct 03 20:33 |
| trmanco | I've read about it | Oct 03 20:33 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Amazon 's #Censorship of #1984 Costs Them a Fortune http://bit.ly/3poAJf | Oct 03 20:34 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Amazon coughs $150k to student over lost notes • The Register .::. Size~: 22.2 KB | Oct 03 20:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MAFIAA #Cartel Resorts to #AstroTurfing http://techdirt.com/articles/20091001/0154256379.shtml http://bit.ly/PMkQb | Oct 03 20:37 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Entertainment Industry Propaganda Organization Kicks Off Hilarious Astroturf Letter Writing Campaign | Techdirt .::. Size~: 42.38 KB | Oct 03 20:37 |
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| trmanco | heh | Oct 03 20:38 |
| trmanco | Windows for cloud computing | Oct 03 20:38 |
| trmanco | who would use that? | Oct 03 20:38 |
| schestowitz | What is cloud?? There's no such thing | Oct 03 20:38 |
| schestowitz | Windows Server stinks | Oct 03 20:38 |
| schestowitz | So there's Microsoft's hope for Fog Computing | Oct 03 20:39 |
| trmanco | LOL | Oct 03 20:40 |
| trmanco | fog computing - A cheap variant of cloud computing | Oct 03 20:40 |
| schestowitz | More dense one | Oct 03 20:41 |
| schestowitz | There's no such thing as cloud computing | Oct 03 20:41 |
| schestowitz | I first saw the term in 2007 | Oct 03 20:41 |
| trmanco | dense? cloud are also really dense :-P | Oct 03 20:41 |
| schestowitz | And I thought, "what is this?" | Oct 03 20:41 |
| schestowitz | Amazon marketed this in this way | Oct 03 20:41 |
| trmanco | than what do you call it? | Oct 03 20:41 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Complies with the #WaronProtocols http://bit.ly/2sLd26 | Oct 03 20:42 | |
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| trmanco | it's back on the frontpage | Oct 03 20:43 |
| trmanco | it was an error | Oct 03 20:43 |
| trmanco | "error" | Oct 03 20:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #EULA Bubble Blown Apart http://techdirt.com/articles/20091001/1805496397.shtml | Oct 03 20:44 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Court Once Again Confirms Right Of First Sale For Software: You Own It, Not License It | Techdirt .::. Size~: 61.77 KB | Oct 03 20:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Australian Party to Challenge Existing #IntellectualMonopoly Law http://bit.ly/MyXBH | Oct 03 20:46 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Australian Pirate Party sets sail • The Register .::. Size~: 24.51 KB | Oct 03 20:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple Wants Customer-hostile #Patents http://bit.ly/15jnM6 | Oct 03 20:48 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Slashdot Apple Story | Apple Wants Patents For Crippling Cellphones .::. Size~: 176.05 KB | Oct 03 20:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google Sued, #EFF Goes Against the #Acacia #PatentTroll http://bit.ly/4GBoLb http://bit.ly/adzmt #swpat | Oct 03 20:49 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Google Caught In Another Patent Dispute | WebProNews .::. Size~: 32.46 KB | Oct 03 20:49 |
| phIRCe | Title: Federal Court Partially Invalidates One of EFF Most Wanted Patents: Acacia Research Streaming Media | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 16.48 KB | Oct 03 20:49 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: call it server | Oct 03 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Or SaaS | Oct 03 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Although all software is SaaS | Oct 03 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Unless you define service to be at layer of n/w | Oct 03 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Rather than PC components | Oct 03 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Meaning, I do some task and the distance of the 'stuff' that handles this task is great enough to be 'away' (i.e. 'cloud') | Oct 03 20:50 |
| schestowitz | It's cloud, thus it's from heaven | Oct 03 20:50 |
| JPerlow | good evening roy. | Oct 03 20:50 |
| schestowitz | And your secrets (data) are safe with the flying spaghetti monster | Oct 03 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Hey, JPerlow | Oct 03 20:50 |
| schestowitz | What's up? | Oct 03 20:50 |
| JPerlow | downloding opensuse M8 | Oct 03 20:50 |
| schestowitz | It's good | Oct 03 20:50 |
| JPerlow | going to take a looke at kde 4.3 | Oct 03 20:51 |
| trmanco | m8? | Oct 03 20:51 |
| JPerlow | milestone 8 | Oct 03 20:51 |
| JPerlow | of 11.2 | Oct 03 20:51 |
| trmanco | oh | Oct 03 20:51 |
| jono | JPerlow, you tried the new Ubuntu Beta? | Oct 03 20:51 |
| JPerlow | tried? | Oct 03 20:51 |
| JPerlow | I guess you missed this. | Oct 03 20:51 |
| schestowitz | He uses it | Oct 03 20:51 |
| jono | oops | Oct 03 20:51 |
| schestowitz | See the Koala article, jono | Oct 03 20:51 |
| jono | :) | Oct 03 20:51 |
| jono | which one? | Oct 03 20:51 |
| JPerlow | http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11218 | Oct 03 20:51 |
| jono | thanks | Oct 03 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Somethign about Marsupials | Oct 03 20:51 |
| JPerlow | and I did some podcast commentary as well. | Oct 03 20:51 |
| JPerlow | http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11235 | Oct 03 20:52 |
| jono | reading | Oct 03 20:52 |
| JPerlow | I did a demo video | Oct 03 20:52 |
| JPerlow | of how fast it runs | Oct 03 20:52 |
| JPerlow | havent run it on real hardware yet | Oct 03 20:52 |
| JPerlow | just virtualized | Oct 03 20:52 |
| JPerlow | then again, I dont run anything on real hardware anymore | Oct 03 20:53 |
| JPerlow | my only "real hardware" OS is Windows 7 | Oct 03 20:53 |
| JPerlow | and various server OSes | Oct 03 20:53 |
| jono | this is great, thanks so much JPerlow | Oct 03 20:53 |
| jono | did you file bugs for the problems you found? | Oct 03 20:54 |
| JPerlow | I am not sure I am encountering normal bugs | Oct 03 20:54 |
| JPerlow | I need to play with it more | Oct 03 20:54 |
| JPerlow | I do file when I find severe ones | Oct 03 20:54 |
| jono | JPerlow, feel free to let me know if you are unsure if something is a bug | Oct 03 20:54 |
| jono | happy to happy | Oct 03 20:54 |
| jono | want to make sure this release is as rocking as possible :) | Oct 03 20:54 |
| jono | schestowitz, have you given it a whirl yet? | Oct 03 20:55 |
| JPerlow | yeah the main issue I am having is auto connect of network | Oct 03 20:55 |
| jono | schestowitz, you use Kubuntu, right? | Oct 03 20:55 |
| JPerlow | I have to click on the network to turn it on when the gui boots | Oct 03 20:55 |
| JPerlow | but thats in virtualbox | Oct 03 20:55 |
| jono | ahhhh | Oct 03 20:55 |
| jono | if you could thoroughly test Empathy, that would be awesome | Oct 03 20:55 |
| jono | that is where we need a lot of focus | Oct 03 20:55 |
| JPerlow | also there seems to be an issue where if you dont turn the network on first, and you attempt to browse, then you turn the network back on, the windows network browsing breaks | Oct 03 20:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Lobbies for the Terrible Lisbon Treaty http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0930/1224255526136.html | Oct 03 20:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Lobbies for the Terrible #LisbonTreaty http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/0930/1224255526136.html | Oct 03 20:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Brings #IntellectualMonopolies to Arab States http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20090927094106 | Oct 03 20:56 | |
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| jono | JPerlow, see http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/10/02/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-beta-released-testers-needed/ | Oct 03 20:56 |
| JPerlow | I'm not sure what service gnome uses for that SMB browsing service | Oct 03 20:56 |
| jono | that sounds like a bug | Oct 03 20:56 |
| JPerlow | I'll file them | Oct 03 20:56 |
| jono | thanks :) | Oct 03 20:56 |
| schestowitz | jono: I haven't tried the beta | Oct 03 20:56 |
| schestowitz | I get the patches | Oct 03 20:56 |
| jono | that blog post I just linked you to outlines some things to test | Oct 03 20:56 |
| jono | schestowitz, patches? | Oct 03 20:57 |
| JPerlow | jono what part of ubuntu are you responsible for/ | Oct 03 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Last night it booted into the x-less thingie | Oct 03 20:57 |
| schestowitz | I think cause it got a new driver for the graphics card | Oct 03 20:57 |
| schestowitz | Quick update and reboot and it worked OK | Oct 03 20:57 |
| schestowitz | jono: here's the thing. | Oct 03 20:57 |
| JPerlow | jono the speed improvements are primarily due to the init system and udev correct | Oct 03 20:57 |
| schestowitz | You might want to avoid home users from being stuck like this | Oct 03 20:58 |
| jono | JPerlow, I am the Ubuntu Community Manager | Oct 03 20:58 |
| schestowitz | But it's development version | Oct 03 20:58 |
| schestowitz | Someone else might be more intimidatd by it | Oct 03 20:58 |
| schestowitz | sudo apt-get update | Oct 03 20:58 |
| jono | JPerlow, my job is to build an enjoyable, productive and diverse community | Oct 03 20:58 |
| JPerlow | jono, ah you're the ubuntu equivalent of zonker | Oct 03 20:58 |
| schestowitz | My net daemon was running OK | Oct 03 20:58 |
| jono | but I help a lot with QA, testing and getting the release sheened | Oct 03 20:58 |
| jono | JPerlow, yep | Oct 03 20:58 |
| jono | JPerlow, I joined Canonical three years ago and now have a team of three | Oct 03 20:58 |
| JPerlow | yeah I seem to be friends with most of those community mgrs | Oct 03 20:59 |
| jono | I am one of the seven senior Ubuntu platform managers | Oct 03 20:59 |
| JPerlow | I know jim grisanzio at sun very well | Oct 03 20:59 |
| jono | JPerlow, zonker is a great guy | Oct 03 20:59 |
| JPerlow | and zonker | Oct 03 20:59 |
| jono | love him to bits :) | Oct 03 20:59 |
| jono | Jim is awesome | Oct 03 20:59 |
| JPerlow | zonker used to be my editor at linux magazine | Oct 03 20:59 |
| jono | ahhh | Oct 03 20:59 |
| JPerlow | before he went to opensuse | Oct 03 20:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Update on Attempts to Legalise #SoftwarePatents in #Europe ('Community' Patent) http://www.ipjur.com/blog2/index.php?/archives/122-Yet- ... | Oct 03 21:00 | |
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| JPerlow | I dont really know the guy who runs fedora | Oct 03 21:00 |
| jono | right | Oct 03 21:00 |
| JPerlow | every time I try to talk to him about fedora | Oct 03 21:00 |
| jono | Max Spevak and Paul Frields | Oct 03 21:00 |
| JPerlow | he wants to talk about rhel | Oct 03 21:00 |
| jono | great guys | Oct 03 21:00 |
| jono | haha | Oct 03 21:00 |
| jono | that might be Max | Oct 03 21:00 |
| jono | he has moved back to Fedora from RHEL now | Oct 03 21:00 |
| jono | I have Fedora stickers on my laptop | Oct 03 21:00 |
| jono | we are all part of the same team, is the way I see it :) | Oct 03 21:00 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FSF and #SFLC File Objection to #SoftwarePatents in #Bilski Case http://bit.ly/15DhHU http://bit.ly/23EPMX #swpat | Oct 03 21:02 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 03 21:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Oxford Brookes a Victim of Windows Vulnerabilities http://bit.ly/E9Pj9 | Oct 03 21:07 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Violation of the Law in #Mississippi : Payments Impending http://bit.ly/UvXgA | Oct 03 21:08 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Visa Applications Discriminate Against Free Software Users http://gnowgi.org/2009/10/02/usvisab/ | Oct 03 21:10 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Indirectly Linked to Fraud Charges http://www.reuters.com/article/smallBusinessNews/idUSTRE58S5U820090929 | Oct 03 21:10 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Gordon Brown threatens Britain with fireside podcasts http://is.gd/3URA2 | Oct 03 21:12 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Payments at Microsoft Decline and Goldman Sachs Banksters Downgrade MSFT http://bit.ly/DRuWT http://bit.ly/11b0ko | Oct 03 21:14 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista 7 Functionality is Already Broken (Stuff That Worked Fine in #Vista ) http://bit.ly/25sB1b | Oct 03 21:21 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Xbox360 Defects Spread to Games Too http://bit.ly/2EIZdk | Oct 03 21:30 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Suggested activities for your #Windows7 launch party http://bit.ly/6IYB8 | Oct 03 21:41 | |
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| schestowitz | FTA: '19. Reminisce about the good ol’ days of DOS. Then go download Linux.' | Oct 03 21:47 |
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| JPerlow | opensuse m8 no likey virtualbox | Oct 03 22:18 |
| JPerlow | installer blew up in my face, cant initialize x | Oct 03 22:18 |
| JPerlow | very strange | Oct 03 22:18 |
| JPerlow | gave it the same resource config as koala | Oct 03 22:18 |
| JPerlow | man kde 4.3 confuses the hell out of me | Oct 03 22:24 |
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| trmanco | http://www.ugarro.com/blog/blog4.php/2009/10/04/linux-on-everything | Oct 03 22:42 |
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| schestowitz | JPerlow: kde4 works great for me | Oct 03 22:52 |
| JPerlow | just feeling my way around | Oct 03 22:55 |
| JPerlow | I may try kubuntu 9.10 a well | Oct 03 22:55 |
| JPerlow | opensuse's implementation may be heavily modified | Oct 03 22:55 |
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| JPerlow | its definitely pretty | Oct 03 23:06 |
| JPerlow | trying to figure out now to make a new desktop folder | Oct 03 23:07 |
| JPerlow | can you only have one? | Oct 03 23:09 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Oct 03 23:11 |
| JPerlow | thats unfortunate | Oct 03 23:11 |
| schestowitz | ~/Desktop | Oct 03 23:11 |
| schestowitz | You could direct it at any other directory, e.g. ~/desktop2 | Oct 03 23:11 |
| JPerlow | I'd like to have more of those areas to move around | Oct 03 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Just add "widget" | Oct 03 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Select folderview | Oct 03 23:11 |
| schestowitz | I do microblogging from a widget... two even | Oct 03 23:12 |
| JPerlow | I see they are trying to do this in an object oriented way | Oct 03 23:12 |
| JPerlow | thats going to take some getting used to | Oct 03 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | JPerlow: you'd never know if you don't try it (Change) :-D | Oct 03 23:13 |
| JPerlow | this seems like UI overkill | Oct 03 23:14 |
| JPerlow | but I;ll try the kubuntu implementation | Oct 03 23:14 |
| JPerlow | maybe suse is different | Oct 03 23:14 |
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| JPerlow | jono: downloading kubuntu-desktop | Oct 03 23:14 |
| JPerlow | gonna see what youve done with it | Oct 03 23:14 |
| jono | JPerlow, awesome :) | Oct 03 23:15 |
| JPerlow | your servers are totally hammere | Oct 03 23:15 |
| JPerlow | hammered | Oct 03 23:15 |
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| jono | JPerlow, yeah, things are slow now | Oct 03 23:18 |
| jono | right, I best run, bugs filed, heading out | Oct 03 23:19 |
| jono | take care folks! | Oct 03 23:19 |
| jono | hope Kubuntu works well for you JPerlow :-) | Oct 03 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | This video is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqh6Ap9ldTs&NR=1 | Oct 03 23:40 |
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| cubezzz | in 1024x768 video pixels are not quite square? | Oct 03 23:42 |
| MinceR | on a 4:3 monitor, they are | Oct 03 23:45 |
| MinceR | on a 16:9 or 16:10 monitor, the sides remain black and they can then still be square | Oct 03 23:45 |
| cubezzz | it's not I just measured with a ruler | Oct 03 23:45 |
| MinceR | 1280x1024 is the resolution that results in non-square pixels on most monitors | Oct 03 23:45 |
| MinceR | is it an LCD or a CRT display? | Oct 03 23:45 |
| cubezzz | I draw a square say 400x400 | Oct 03 23:45 |
| cubezzz | LCD | Oct 03 23:46 |
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| cubezzz | it's a bit taller than wide | Oct 03 23:46 |
| MinceR | perhaps your LCD has nonsquare pixels | Oct 03 23:47 |
| cubezzz | hmmm | Oct 03 23:48 |
| MinceR | i think i've seen 5:4 LCD-s with a native resolution of 1280x1024 | Oct 03 23:48 |
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| _goblin | good evening all. | Oct 03 23:52 |
| MinceR | hay | Oct 03 23:52 |
| _goblin | :) | Oct 03 23:52 |
| _goblin | just finished work....2 days off now! | Oct 03 23:52 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, just measured on my laptop, and it is square on that one | Oct 03 23:53 |
| cubezzz | that's weird | Oct 03 23:53 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 23:54 |
| MinceR | on a CRT you can change the shape pixels get mapped to :> | Oct 03 23:54 |
| cubezzz | but not on a LCD? | Oct 03 23:54 |
| MinceR | on an LCD you have native pixels | Oct 03 23:55 |
| cubezzz | if I could change vertical size then... | Oct 03 23:55 |
| MinceR | of course you can map logical pixels to them in many ways, but it will be ugly unless there's a 1:1 relationship | Oct 03 23:55 |
| cubezzz | but I probably can't right? :) | Oct 03 23:55 |
| MinceR | well, the nvidia drivers i've fiddled with offered stretching the image to fill the display, stretching it while preserving aspect ratio and centering it at original size | Oct 03 23:56 |
| MinceR | (that is, when you aren't using the native resolution, of course :) ) | Oct 03 23:56 |
| cubezzz | the physical display is 13.25 x 10.5" | Oct 03 23:57 |
| MinceR | that's very close to 5:4 | Oct 03 23:57 |
| MinceR | probably is | Oct 03 23:57 |
| cubezzz | hmmmm | Oct 03 23:57 |
| MinceR | what's the native resolution? | Oct 03 23:57 |
| cubezzz | I don't think I want that | Oct 03 23:57 |
| cubezzz | not sure, checking manual now | Oct 03 23:58 |
| cubezzz | max res: 1280x1024 | Oct 03 23:59 |
| cubezzz | @75 Hz | Oct 03 23:59 |
| MinceR | then you'd be best served by using that resolution | Oct 03 23:59 |
| MinceR | it will most likely yield square pixels, too | Oct 03 23:59 |
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