| MinceR | (there aren't many commonly used 5:4 resolutions) | Oct 04 00:00 |
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| cubezzz | right, it's 1.25 not 1.33 | Oct 04 00:02 |
| cubezzz | doh | Oct 04 00:02 |
| fewa | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Vector_Video_Standards2.svg | Oct 04 00:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: Not a web page! Aborting... .::. Size~: Too big! | Oct 04 00:02 |
| fewa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg | Oct 04 00:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: Not a web page! Aborting... .::. Size~: Too big! | Oct 04 00:02 |
| fewa | umm the second is | Oct 04 00:03 |
| fewa | that bot is annoying | Oct 04 00:03 |
| fewa | doesn't check the mime-type http response | Oct 04 00:03 |
| fewa | ie do a HEAD | Oct 04 00:03 |
| fewa | whose bot is it? | Oct 04 00:03 |
| fewa | ive asked a number of times | Oct 04 00:03 |
| cubezzz | trmanco I think | Oct 04 00:04 |
| MinceR | yes, it's trmanco's | Oct 04 00:04 |
| trmanco | yes I ought to fix that | Oct 04 00:05 |
| schestowitz | fewa: thanks for the videos | Oct 04 00:05 |
| cubezzz | didn't realize it was possible to have non-square pixels on 1024x768 | Oct 04 00:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard: I /sweat/ just thinking about it | Oct 04 00:06 | |
| fewa | look at the video | Oct 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | I went well beyond them, but they made decent starting points (related vids and all) | Oct 04 00:06 |
| fewa | covers all of this | Oct 04 00:06 |
| fewa | *diagram | Oct 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | That person from the audience with "That's right!" pissed the hell out of me (And I'm sure I'm not alone) | Oct 04 00:06 |
| fewa | yeah | Oct 04 00:06 |
| schestowitz | "That's right... yeah... that's right..." [shut the...] | Oct 04 00:06 |
| MinceR | it would also be nice if those Title lines would come as notices, not messages | Oct 04 00:06 |
| fewa | shes someone who has spent much time at sermons | Oct 04 00:07 |
| MinceR | cubezzz: most resolutions will result in non-square pixels on a 5:4 monitor :) | Oct 04 00:07 |
| cubezzz | yes indeed | Oct 04 00:07 |
| fewa | african-american dominated congregations have call-and-response sermons | Oct 04 00:07 |
| cubezzz | didn't realize I had a 5:4 monitor | Oct 04 00:07 |
| MinceR | well, unless you let it leave bars on the sides somewhere, of course | Oct 04 00:07 |
| fewa | except SXGA + QSXGA | Oct 04 00:08 |
| schestowitz | fewa: "glory glory hallelujah" | Oct 04 00:08 |
| MinceR | btw i used 1280x1024 on my desktop, on a 4:3 monitor for a long time without having any idea that i had a distorted screen :) | Oct 04 00:08 |
| fewa | normal asp rat 4:3 (standard) and 16:9 (wide) | Oct 04 00:08 |
| cubezzz | MinceR, tunecore stipulates 1600x1600 for cd covers | Oct 04 00:09 |
| schestowitz | Mine at work is like 3920px wide :-) | Oct 04 00:09 |
| cubezzz | then my customer complained it's not square | Oct 04 00:09 |
| MinceR | well, on computer displays, 16:10 is more common than 16:9 | Oct 04 00:09 |
| schestowitz | Not so possible with LCDs | Oct 04 00:09 |
| fewa | o yeah | Oct 04 00:09 |
| fewa | yeah everyone has fized-res LCDs now | Oct 04 00:10 |
| fewa | so this is kinda besides the poit | Oct 04 00:10 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for OLED desktop/laptop displays :> | Oct 04 00:10 |
| fewa | 16:10 allows controls around a wide screen picture | Oct 04 00:10 |
| Balrog | I prefer 16:10 myself | Oct 04 00:11 |
| Balrog | 16:9 is too wide | Oct 04 00:11 |
| fewa | I prefer big | Oct 04 00:11 |
| MinceR | normally i'd prefer closer to rectangular, but on 16:10 i just have a vertical panel :> | Oct 04 00:12 |
| fewa | closer to rectangular :P | Oct 04 00:12 |
| MinceR | i'd also like vertical title bars but i haven't checked out the window manager that would potentially allow that yet | Oct 04 00:12 |
| fewa | thats kinda meaningless u no | Oct 04 00:12 |
| MinceR | ? | Oct 04 00:12 |
| Balrog | well with 16:10 I can have a photo and there's plenty of room for editing toolbars / panels | Oct 04 00:12 |
| fewa | <fewa> closer to rectangular :P | Oct 04 00:12 |
| fewa | what the definition of a rectangular | Oct 04 00:13 |
| fewa | *rectangle | Oct 04 00:13 |
| MinceR | they're all rectangular :> | Oct 04 00:13 |
| MinceR | oops | Oct 04 00:13 |
| MinceR | i meant closer to square when i said that | Oct 04 00:13 |
| fewa | oooo k | Oct 04 00:14 |
| fewa | square is actually too tall | Oct 04 00:14 |
| MinceR | it seems to me that square would be the most versatile shape | Oct 04 00:14 |
| MinceR | but it isn't that convenient on a laptop anyway | Oct 04 00:14 |
| fewa | the eyes are side-to-side | Oct 04 00:14 |
| fewa | and people look side to side much more than up and down | Oct 04 00:15 |
| MinceR | yet pages of text are usually taller than they're wide | Oct 04 00:15 |
| MinceR | (that gives an idea for another arrangement: one landscape-oriented display+one portrait-oriented one) | Oct 04 00:15 |
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| MinceR | then again, the more and the bigger they are, the better :> | Oct 04 00:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Government-Microsoft Scandal in #Australia is Exposed; #BECTA Pays Lip Service http://ping.fm/90hf1 | Oct 04 00:24 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Curse of ‘Sponsored Posts’ http://ping.fm/kYZJC A company that publicly curses Free software literally buys its way into article va ... | Oct 04 00:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Good news! @EPAGov to regulate toxicity in everyday products http://ur1.ca/cwt2 Will encompasses a US RoHS ? #toxins #health #environment | Oct 04 01:02 | |
| cubezzz | it's easier for the eye to read and follow shorter columns of text | Oct 04 01:14 |
| cubezzz | at least that's the way newspapers go | Oct 04 01:14 |
| cubezzz | and magazines | Oct 04 01:14 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Register Sells Out to Microsoft and Novell http://ping.fm/Jxjz1 | Oct 04 01:20 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Windows-powered computers continue to be hijacked in large numbers due to Conficker http://ping.fm/hO9D2 | Oct 04 01:40 | |
| MinceR | those columns are narrower than monitors though | Oct 04 01:41 |
| schestowitz | How about column layout in BN? | Oct 04 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Like in here: http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/20/sabotaging-for-a-living/ | Oct 04 01:41 |
| schestowitz | See the layout | Oct 04 01:41 |
| MinceR | i'd prefer a format that allows text to be formatted into multiple columns on screen | Oct 04 01:41 |
| MinceR | web can't do it neatly | Oct 04 01:42 |
| schestowitz | No idea why in Firefox 3.5 there's a line in between | Oct 04 01:42 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: how about the above? | Oct 04 01:42 |
| MinceR | not so useful, one still has to read one column to the bottom and then move back to the top | Oct 04 01:42 |
| schestowitz | Yes. | Oct 04 01:43 |
| cubezzz | BN is columns, seems OK | Oct 04 01:43 |
| schestowitz | People complained, so I stopped | Oct 04 01:43 |
| MinceR | i was thinking of implementing something that lays out as many columns on the screen as will fit | Oct 04 01:43 |
| cubezzz | there's a bit of white space to the left, at least for me | Oct 04 01:43 |
| MinceR | preferably as an app on its own, instead of hacking it up on the web via JS | Oct 04 01:44 |
| MinceR | it could be part of the new web that isn't bloated :) | Oct 04 01:44 |
| MinceR | but it's a big project | Oct 04 01:44 |
| cubezzz | wait until I hit it with lynx :) | Oct 04 01:44 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 04 01:44 |
| MinceR | basically i remember how nicely some diskmags worked | Oct 04 01:45 |
| MinceR | even though they used wider columns than i'd like | Oct 04 01:45 |
| cubezzz | then I don't have to look at Ballmer pics | Oct 04 01:45 |
| cubezzz | well, the main thing is it works well enough | Oct 04 01:47 |
| cubezzz | I'll give Akregator a go | Oct 04 01:48 |
| cubezzz | I don't really see a lot of Linux "hatred" | Oct 04 01:50 |
| cubezzz | maybe from Ballmer and a few Microsoft bosses | Oct 04 01:50 |
| fewa | i switched to akregator | Oct 04 01:50 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project first #SCOTUS look at PATRIOT act http://ur1.ca/cwwu #freespeech | Oct 04 01:58 | |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: you have to look at internal memos | Oct 04 02:10 |
| schestowitz | I could show you more, but not from executives | Oct 04 02:10 |
| schestowitz | The ecmployee said privately that Linux is "stealing" and stuff | Oct 04 02:10 |
| schestowitz | That's what they are told at Redmond | Oct 04 02:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Games — Not Just Consoles — Are Defective, Failing http://ping.fm/zJmbf | Oct 04 02:11 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Latest Dead Products, Delays, and Descends at #Microsoft http://ping.fm/lcoDr | Oct 04 02:46 | |
| schestowitz | gn | Oct 04 02:46 |
| cubezzz | ah, well, I'll have to look into that | Oct 04 02:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[nickballard] Mmm...tabouli! :-) | Oct 04 03:14 | |
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| Omar87 | Good morning/afternoon/evening/midnight everyone. | Oct 04 05:33 |
| sebsebseb | Omar87: /midnight heh | Oct 04 05:36 |
| sebsebseb | Omar87: I don't think midnight is in any part of the world right now | Oct 04 05:36 |
| Omar87 | sebsebseb, yeah, lol. :P | Oct 04 05:39 |
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| fewa | Omar87, yes it is | Oct 04 06:04 |
| fewa | it is midnight in chicago right now | Oct 04 06:04 |
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| amarsh04 | daylight saving now in .au | Oct 04 06:28 |
| amarsh04 | at least in 4 states, so instead of 3 main timezones we have 5 | Oct 04 06:28 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/mancandy-announces-durian/ Blender guys are warped. | Oct 04 08:44 |
| *schestowitz looks | Oct 04 08:45 | |
| schestowitz | Looks like an elongated David Berlind | Oct 04 08:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | all knowing testicle | Oct 04 08:46 |
| *Diablo-D3 facepalms | Oct 04 08:46 | |
| sebsebseb | amarsh04: oh no summer time in Australlia before? yes I am replying to a while ago here | Oct 04 08:48 |
| oiaohm | mancandy is kind historical to blender. | Oct 04 08:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | that it is | Oct 04 08:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | and by it, I really do mean it | Oct 04 08:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im not even sure if its supposed to be human | Oct 04 08:52 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blender3d.org/e-shop/product_info.php?products_id=99 Kind human Diablo-D3 | Oct 04 08:53 |
| oiaohm | Mancandy is a human altered to show animation tests better making flaws simpler to spot. | Oct 04 08:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Pay Cuts at Microsoft, Downgrade http://ping.fm/yjHL2 | Oct 04 09:02 | |
| amarsh04 | yes, we have it every year, but it started this weekend schestowitz | Oct 04 09:10 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Breaks Functionality That Worked Fine in #Vista http://ping.fm/LWXXb | Oct 04 09:25 | |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: not kicked in here, yet. | Oct 04 09:26 |
| schestowitz | USually last Sunday of March and Sept. | Oct 04 09:26 |
| amarsh04 | sometimes our start and finish weekends have been identical to the .us, so it has made a the change in time differences more significant | Oct 04 09:29 |
| fewa | ? | Oct 04 09:32 |
| fewa | ahh | Oct 04 09:32 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: something that people missed about the boot from Linux in the dell. Its not only power. Suspend to ram cannot be used in encrypted laptops or this attack http://citp.princeton.edu/memory/ works so rendering disk protection useless. | Oct 04 09:32 |
| fewa | like reverse | Oct 04 09:32 |
| fewa | you go on same time US goes on | Oct 04 09:32 |
| fewa | US changed rules few years back | Oct 04 09:32 |
| fewa | it was a Bush thing to suposedly address power issues | Oct 04 09:33 |
| fewa | however daylight savings time is obsolete to that purpose | Oct 04 09:33 |
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| trmanco | http://www.blendernation.com/mancandy-announces-durian/ | Oct 04 10:00 |
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| trmanco | damn | Oct 04 10:00 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Cringely Argues #Vista7 Promotion Includes “Bribes”, Hype Balloons Nonetheless http://ping.fm/lgVpj | Oct 04 10:01 | |
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| amarsh04 | np: Smetana's Vltava (The Moldau) | Oct 04 10:02 |
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| fewa | A 2008 study examined billing data in Indiana before and after it adopted DST in 2006, and concluded that DST increased residential electricity consumption by 1% to 4%, primarily due to extra afternoon cooling.[47] | Oct 04 10:32 |
| fewa | so DST is counterproductive | Oct 04 10:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | obama should just tell congress to get rid of it altogether | Oct 04 10:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was for farmers | Oct 04 10:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | we can farm in the middle of the night now if we so wish it | Oct 04 10:33 |
| fewa | <Diablo-D3> it was for farmers | Oct 04 10:33 |
| fewa | no it was not | Oct 04 10:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | yes it was | Oct 04 10:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | read your history | Oct 04 10:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | daylight savings time was for farmers | Oct 04 10:33 |
| fewa | for anybody that needed to be outside when it was light | Oct 04 10:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | which was DUN DUN DUN farmers | Oct 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | Not really. | Oct 04 10:34 |
| fewa | what portion of people had electric light then? | Oct 04 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | there wasnt anyone else back then | Oct 04 10:34 |
| fewa | probably very few | Oct 04 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewa: NONE | Oct 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | Farmers get up at sun rise. | Oct 04 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | SINCE IT WASNT INVENTED YET | Oct 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | No matter the time. | Oct 04 10:34 |
| fewa | so then its for everyone | Oct 04 10:34 |
| fewa | <oiaohm> Farmers get up at sun rise. | Oct 04 10:34 |
| fewa | yep | Oct 04 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: yes, which is why DST should have never been invented | Oct 04 10:34 |
| fewa | doesn't matter what time it is | Oct 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | I know I was one. | Oct 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | No farmers don't really care about time Diablo-D3 | Oct 04 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | you cant trust bureaucrats. | Oct 04 10:34 |
| fewa | DST was because of cities | Oct 04 10:34 |
| oiaohm | Only city people care about DST. | Oct 04 10:34 |
| fewa | and lack of electric light | Oct 04 10:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | fewa: which really didnt exist yet | Oct 04 10:35 |
| fewa | so the day ended when the sun went down | Oct 04 10:35 |
| oiaohm | Town people Diablo-D3 | Oct 04 10:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: I dont care about it, and Im "city people" | Oct 04 10:35 |
| fewa | Its about Towns | Oct 04 10:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | its about bullshit | Oct 04 10:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | and I wont stand for it | Oct 04 10:35 |
| fewa | only town people give a shit about what time it is | Oct 04 10:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | I want a 100% bullshit free government | Oct 04 10:35 |
| oiaohm | Also normally places with twilight also care about it. | Oct 04 10:36 |
| oiaohm | Where I am with daylight saving it can still be daylight at 730 pm. | Oct 04 10:36 |
| fewa | oiaohm, what latitude u at? | Oct 04 10:36 |
| oiaohm | I would have to look that up. | Oct 04 10:37 |
| fewa | Adelaide 34 deg south | Oct 04 10:37 |
| fewa | not that far south | Oct 04 10:37 |
| fewa | us-cad border on the west is 49 deg north | Oct 04 10:37 |
| fewa | much more dramatic seasons | Oct 04 10:38 |
| fewa | in terms of light | Oct 04 10:38 |
| oiaohm | I am in queensland fewa | Oct 04 10:38 |
| fewa | <oiaohm> Where I am with daylight saving it can still be daylight at 730 pm. | Oct 04 10:38 |
| fewa | can be 10pm and still light here | Oct 04 10:38 |
| fewa | meh maybe 9 | Oct 04 10:38 |
| oiaohm | We are use to darkness and sleep where I am. | Oct 04 10:39 |
| oiaohm | daylight saving becomes a major pain in but. | Oct 04 10:39 |
| fewa | 23 deg south queensland | Oct 04 10:39 |
| fewa | dont know what part that is though | Oct 04 10:39 |
| fewa | cos(23) vs cos(49) | Oct 04 10:40 |
| oiaohm | Only form of daylight saving that has worked here is more north. | Oct 04 10:40 |
| oiaohm | a hour in the middle of day that does not exist basically. | Oct 04 10:40 |
| oiaohm | Start earlier end latter snooze in midde of hot day works quite well. | Oct 04 10:41 |
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| trmanco | I fixed that content type issue from yesterday | Oct 04 10:42 |
| oiaohm | Its the particular issue fewa that night time with daylight saving lines up with when children are going to bed. So kids say its not dark yet so I don't have to go to bed problem. | Oct 04 10:42 |
| oiaohm | fewa: Something you don't have more south. | Oct 04 10:43 |
| fewa | ummmm | Oct 04 10:43 |
| fewa | DST should be removed | Oct 04 10:44 |
| fewa | complicates things without much benifit | Oct 04 10:44 |
| oiaohm | North queensland type is not too bad. | Oct 04 10:44 |
| oiaohm | Hour in middle of day to rest. | Oct 04 10:45 |
| oiaohm | Ok that is more a farmers form of DST | Oct 04 10:45 |
| fewa | maybe we could have granular DST :P | Oct 04 10:45 |
| oiaohm | Never work in the hot sun its too hard. | Oct 04 10:45 |
| fewa | each city on a difernt time :p | Oct 04 10:45 |
| fewa | "I am on +23m DST" | Oct 04 10:45 |
| fewa | "tomarrow it will be +24m" | Oct 04 10:46 |
| fewa | o geeze | Oct 04 10:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Continued Effect of #Microsoft #Antitrust Violations http://ping.fm/pq283 | Oct 04 10:50 | |
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| fewa | are there any text editors that dont cave with >1MB | Oct 04 10:53 |
| amarsh04 | Adelaide is closer to 35 degrees south latitude (about 12 km south of the city centre) | Oct 04 10:53 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Unixmen - Schools start to move to OpenOffice | Unixmen http://post.ly/7F1n | Oct 04 11:09 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Red Hat News | One Small Leap for Open Source, One Giant Leap for Mankind http://post.ly/7F2R | Oct 04 11:12 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Nexuiz - Nexuiz News (Latest Information on Nexuiz) - A free open-source fast paced first person shooter (FPS) for Wind http://post.ly/7F2x | Oct 04 11:16 | |
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| oiaohm | O crud Latest Nexuiz is 888 Megs. | Oct 04 11:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Falling can be deadly http://post.ly/7F3j | Oct 04 11:21 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nigeria Outsources Its #Education to #Microsoft http://ping.fm/En3gT | Oct 04 11:23 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Google will ... http://post.ly/7F49 | Oct 04 11:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @hfactor: Make your boss twitter addict :) http://bit.ly/cFBNM (via santhoshtr) | Oct 04 11:38 | |
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| schestowitz | "openSUSE offers its users access to a repository of nonfree software." | Oct 04 11:56 |
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| trmanco | tumblr is better than posterous | Oct 04 12:06 |
| trmanco | better design and stuff | Oct 04 12:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Amicus Avalanche Opposing #SoftwarePatents in the United States ( #Novell Still Missing) http://ping.fm/AmPps #swpat | Oct 04 12:11 | |
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| fewa | http://maclawstudents.com/blog/product-reviews/legal-documents-the-lyx-way/ | Oct 04 12:35 |
| fewa | ughhh | Oct 04 12:35 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] at iisc. Meeting some friends | Oct 04 12:36 | |
| fewa | whenever mac cultists mention FLOSS they always just mention that its free of price | Oct 04 12:36 |
| fewa | they are parasites of free and open source software | Oct 04 12:36 |
| fewa | hmm looking at the side you wonder if he is paid.... | Oct 04 12:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Alguem quer um bocado de leitão? | Oct 04 12:45 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Testing out my #ubuntu mirror speed tester http://bit.ly/JsJGO . Might be useful on release day :) | Oct 04 12:58 | |
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| schestowitz | fewa: I did my amicus with LyX | Oct 04 13:06 |
| fewa | do you have templates for such things? | Oct 04 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Yes, sort of | Oct 04 13:06 |
| fewa | since they are all the same i assume there are standard layouts | Oct 04 13:06 |
| schestowitz | I made a popular template for PhD theses | Oct 04 13:06 |
| schestowitz | It's downloaded like 200 times/month, for years | Oct 04 13:07 |
| fewa | but you look at all the amicus curies | Oct 04 13:07 |
| fewa | they are all _identical_ layouts | Oct 04 13:07 |
| fewa | where? | Oct 04 13:07 |
| fewa | i cant find anything | Oct 04 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Not sure if they have a tex style for it | Oct 04 13:07 |
| fewa | http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Layouts | Oct 04 13:07 |
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| fewa | put it there | Oct 04 13:07 |
| fewa | LyX seems like the killer app | Oct 04 13:08 |
| fewa | but i cant find layouts | Oct 04 13:09 |
| fewa | which seem like they should already be out there | Oct 04 13:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Photo: thedailywhat: Golden arches being erected near the tiny Dakotan hamlets of Meadow and Glad Valley in... http://tumblr.com/xkj3djm1u | Oct 04 13:14 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Photo: m-altruism: http://tumblr.com/xkj3djmhu | Oct 04 13:16 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Interjects Itself into #FreeSoftware Using #Novell http://ping.fm/09Qza | Oct 04 13:22 | |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: view from your apartment? | Oct 04 13:23 |
| trmanco | LOL | Oct 04 13:23 |
| trmanco | no | Oct 04 13:23 |
| fewa | u seen when cspanjunkie youtube vids were taken down | Oct 04 13:24 |
| fewa | "TOS violation" | Oct 04 13:24 |
| fewa | all those public domain videos taken down | Oct 04 13:24 |
| schestowitz | Link? | Oct 04 13:25 |
| fewa | its in here http://moxnews.com/ | Oct 04 13:25 |
| phIRCe | Title: MOX NEWS .::. Size~: 49.63 KB | Oct 04 13:25 |
| fewa | but cant find right now | Oct 04 13:25 |
| schestowitz | I knew TheAmazingAtheist was suspended and forced to take some vidz down | Oct 04 13:25 |
| schestowitz | He was not even obscene | Oct 04 13:25 |
| schestowitz | That was ugly censorship IMHO | Oct 04 13:25 |
| fewa | http://cspanjunkie.org/ | Oct 04 13:26 |
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| fewa | http://earth2obama.org/?p=1078#comments | Oct 04 13:26 |
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| fewa | o cool | Oct 04 13:28 |
| fewa | Firefox fixed so <video> works without javascript | Oct 04 13:28 |
| fewa | woot | Oct 04 13:29 |
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| trmanco | can anybody paste that wikipedia link from yesterday | Oct 04 13:44 |
| trmanco | the one where the bot said it wasn't a web page | Oct 04 13:44 |
| oiaohm | I really suspect Ubuntu servers are going to burn. | Oct 04 13:45 |
| oiaohm | A dos attack without attackers. | Oct 04 13:45 |
| fewa | lol | Oct 04 13:46 |
| fewa | there are so many mirrors | Oct 04 13:46 |
| fewa | with 10Gbps lines | Oct 04 13:46 |
| fewa | watch this whes it launches http://mirror.anl.gov/ | Oct 04 13:47 |
| fewa | wont even come close | Oct 04 13:47 |
| oiaohm | They will be purely depending on multi cast | Oct 04 13:48 |
| fewa | schestowitz said he had a killer internet connection | Oct 04 13:49 |
| oiaohm | I have a local file mirror that will hold it. | Oct 04 13:51 |
| oiaohm | But last time it got a little stressed. | Oct 04 13:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Photo: thedailywhat: http://tumblr.com/xkj3dk00d | Oct 04 13:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Photo: fencehopping: http://tumblr.com/xkj3dk09c | Oct 04 13:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Photo: fuckyeahstarwars: http://tumblr.com/xkj3dk0fr | Oct 04 13:57 | |
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| MikeyC | Hey Roy, you out there? | Oct 04 14:06 |
| trmanco | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chotiner1.jpg | Oct 04 14:06 |
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| trmanco | ah it works | Oct 04 14:06 |
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| schestowitz | Hey, MikeyC | Oct 04 14:11 |
| schestowitz | What's new? | Oct 04 14:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Spreads #IntellectualMonopoly Law in #Europe and Arab States; #EFF Takes on #Acacia http://ping.fm/ZADw2 | Oct 04 14:22 | |
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| oiaohm | MS is not thinking this threw. Most concentrated patent stock piles is OIN. | Oct 04 14:26 |
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| fewa | Microsoft is already a beheaded dragon | Oct 04 14:29 |
| trmanco | A friend of mine is actually amazed with windows 7 | Oct 04 14:40 |
| trmanco | and with microsoft | Oct 04 14:40 |
| trmanco | ... | Oct 04 14:40 |
| schestowitz | "With Microsoft" | Oct 04 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Enough said. | Oct 04 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Did this friend use OS X and KDE4? | Oct 04 14:44 |
| trmanco | he uses ubuntu | Oct 04 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Or is it a Windows-to-WIndows comparison? | Oct 04 14:45 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: oj. | Oct 04 14:45 |
| schestowitz | *oh. | Oct 04 14:45 |
| trmanco | I'm the one show started him off with it a couple of years ago | Oct 04 14:45 |
| trmanco | he is comparing it with previous versions of windows | Oct 04 14:45 |
| schestowitz | What's in V7 that can't be done in Ubuntu? | Oct 04 14:45 |
| trmanco | but he has only installed in a day ago | Oct 04 14:45 |
| schestowitz | That's what _goblin keeps asking people | Oct 04 14:45 |
| schestowitz | They can't come up with an answer | Oct 04 14:45 |
| trmanco | I told him that he wouldn't last a month before ge broke his system | Oct 04 14:45 |
| schestowitz | Registry bloat | Oct 04 14:46 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure that with just Solitaire and stuff it can run on a single-core CPU | Oct 04 14:46 |
| schestowitz | But then you put some useful stuff on it (not wordpad.exe) | Oct 04 14:46 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Back now from my jobs for the family....what to do? Very pleasant afternoon here in Bedfordshire. | Oct 04 14:47 | |
| trmanco | he has been warned | Oct 04 14:47 |
| schestowitz | WGA? | Oct 04 14:47 |
| trmanco | letter this month I'll ask him if windows 7 is really that good | Oct 04 14:47 |
| schestowitz | PlayOnLinux runs Office 2007 seamlessly now for those who require it | Oct 04 14:47 |
| schestowitz | So I can't quite see what I'm missing | Oct 04 14:48 |
| trmanco | he doesn't need that crap | Oct 04 14:48 |
| schestowitz | I never game with wine, but DaemonFS does OK with it | Oct 04 14:48 |
| trmanco | he is a CS 1.6 gamer | Oct 04 14:48 |
| trmanco | he can't get more than 100 fps on ubuntu (which is perfectly fine), but he likes to have more... | Oct 04 14:48 |
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| ThistleWeb | I have a theory, when your system gradually slows down, it's not all that noticeable as there's no sudden jump | Oct 04 14:51 |
| ThistleWeb | it's like seeing your kids grow up each day, the peeps who notice are the extended family who only see them once a year | Oct 04 14:52 |
| trmanco | yeah it kinda like that | Oct 04 14:52 |
| ThistleWeb | it only becomes apparent when it gets real bad | Oct 04 14:52 |
| trmanco | but the older it is, the slower it will be, and it will slow down at a faster pace | Oct 04 14:53 |
| ThistleWeb | then you've forgotten what it was like when new | Oct 04 14:53 |
| trmanco | it gets real bad after about 6 months of normal usage | Oct 04 14:53 |
| ThistleWeb | and think you must have been imagining it | Oct 04 14:53 |
| trmanco | lol | Oct 04 14:53 |
| ThistleWeb | get him to do some benchmarks on his system when it's fresh, then repeat them in 6 months | Oct 04 14:54 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: he can't see more than 25fps | Oct 04 14:54 |
| ThistleWeb | then in a yr | Oct 04 14:54 |
| trmanco | well, in theory yes | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, in practice | Oct 04 14:55 |
| trmanco | but you can feel anything lower than 60 | Oct 04 14:55 |
| trmanco | 100 is fine and gives you a great margin for major slowdowns | Oct 04 14:55 |
| schestowitz | In theory, there's ability to discern, but nothing substaintial | Oct 04 14:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] bored with farm ville in facebook . my farm is for sale | Oct 04 14:57 | |
| schestowitz | Let's test the bot. http://tech.sina.com.cn/s/2009-09-24/10361079313.shtml | Oct 04 14:57 |
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| trmanco | haha | Oct 04 14:58 |
| trmanco | I only accept valid utf-8 characters | Oct 04 14:59 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/09/28/10-easy-ways-to-play-with-linux-without-leaving-windows/ | Oct 04 14:59 |
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| trmanco | for now | Oct 04 14:59 |
| trmanco | great stuff | Oct 04 14:59 |
| trmanco | posted :) | Oct 04 15:01 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] 10 easy ways to play with Linux without leaving Windows http://post.ly/7FwJ | Oct 04 15:02 | |
| schestowitz | I can't manage to make konversation open links in Firefox. | Oct 04 15:10 |
| trmanco | in the systems settings | Oct 04 15:11 |
| trmanco | put firefox as default browser | Oct 04 15:11 |
| schestowitz | control centre? | Oct 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Or Konversation? | Oct 04 15:17 |
| trmanco | control center | Oct 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | It works for other apps | Oct 04 15:17 |
| trmanco | just put firefox as your default borwser | Oct 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Oct 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | I think I know what you mean | Oct 04 15:17 |
| schestowitz | But not under "file extensions"? | Oct 04 15:17 |
| trmanco | nope | Oct 04 15:18 |
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| _goblin | hi all... | Oct 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | That's a nw thing | Oct 04 15:18 |
| schestowitz | I never noticed it | Oct 04 15:18 |
| trmanco | it the place where you set you default applications | Oct 04 15:18 |
| trmanco | mail, browser, file browser and stuff like that | Oct 04 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Now it's resolved | Oct 04 15:19 |
| trmanco | if you put ff as default it works great with all apps | Oct 04 15:19 |
| trmanco | ok | Oct 04 15:19 |
| trmanco | heu _goblin | Oct 04 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Oddly enough, changing file extensions had the right effect on knode for instance | Oct 04 15:19 |
| schestowitz | They must be checking for different settings | Oct 04 15:19 |
| _goblin | :) | Oct 04 15:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/10/01/C-dot-next-Java | Oct 04 15:25 |
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| oiaohm | kde system settings default applications webbrowser trmanco | Oct 04 15:26 |
| trmanco | yeah | Oct 04 15:26 |
| oiaohm | Also correcting url assignment does it as well. | Oct 04 15:27 |
| oiaohm | I have to pick open policykit some time so I can change network settings. | Oct 04 15:28 |
| schestowitz | isn't policykit standalone in fedora/gnome? | Oct 04 15:31 |
| schestowitz | KDE put it under he Qt coat | Oct 04 15:31 |
| oiaohm | policykit is designed to replace sudo locations. | Oct 04 15:33 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/News/KDE-4.4-Address-Book-to-use-Akonadi | Oct 04 15:34 |
| oiaohm | It closes a major secuirty hole. | Oct 04 15:34 |
| oiaohm | policykit can be restricted from giving permissions to applications in the users home directory. | Oct 04 15:35 |
| schestowitz | http://openssh.com/txt/release-5.3 | Oct 04 15:35 |
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| trmanco | heh | Oct 04 15:36 |
| trmanco | I knew I forgot that mim type | Oct 04 15:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pr.com/press-release/182525 | Oct 04 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | I bet we won't hear much from it | Oct 04 15:38 |
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| schestowitz | Whenever IBM makes a Linux desktop announcement it does nothing | Oct 04 15:38 |
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| trmanco | http://openssh.com/txt/release-5.3 | Oct 04 15:38 |
| trmanco | it has no title :| | Oct 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz | Tru. | Oct 04 15:38 |
| oiaohm | Define nothing schestowitz | Oct 04 15:38 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: no major deals | Oct 04 15:38 |
| oiaohm | Normally good documentation comes out of it. | Oct 04 15:39 |
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| trmanco | reverting back | Oct 04 15:40 |
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| trmanco | http://openssh.com/txt/release-5.3 | Oct 04 15:40 |
| phIRCe | Title: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 04 15:40 |
| trmanco | ok | Oct 04 15:40 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE58247Y20090903 | Oct 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz | "No thumbprint, no money, bank tells armless man" | Oct 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz | Beat phIRCe to it | Oct 04 15:41 |
| trmanco | lol | Oct 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz | it should pretend to be a non-bot | Oct 04 15:41 |
| schestowitz | fewa: No thumbprint, no money, bank tells armless man | Oct 04 15:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/24/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5336183.shtml | Oct 04 15:42 |
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| oiaohm | Hmm big toe print would have been just as secure schestowitz | Oct 04 15:42 |
| schestowitz | Spot the irony | Oct 04 15:42 |
| oiaohm | Personally I don't like finger print id. | Oct 04 15:43 |
| oiaohm | It gives thief a reason to take a finger. | Oct 04 15:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/sep/30/icann-agreement-us | Oct 04 15:43 |
| schestowitz | After years of struggles | Oct 04 15:43 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, kids too | Oct 04 15:44 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: how about one which also senses warmth? | Oct 04 15:44 |
| schestowitz | Although one just need the skin (gross!) | Oct 04 15:44 |
| schestowitz | It's like in those old Hollywood films | Oct 04 15:44 |
| oiaohm | Some sence blood vessiles under skin. | Oct 04 15:45 |
| schestowitz | There was one with Van Damme in it. Very old, can't recallt he name | Oct 04 15:45 |
| oiaohm | But still person evil enough can still connect up a heated liquid to make it work. | Oct 04 15:45 |
| schestowitz | it's like giving people keys | Oct 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz | Fingers and keys/IDs | Oct 04 15:46 |
| oiaohm | Yes know people who have played with corpose testing that. | Oct 04 15:46 |
| schestowitz | Retina is better | Oct 04 15:46 |
| oiaohm | Retina is better removing eye will destroy it. | Oct 04 15:46 |
| oiaohm | But there is a worry about long term Retina scanning and vission. | Oct 04 15:47 |
| oiaohm | Best would be something off brainwaves that made id. | Oct 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/badintelligence/ | Oct 04 15:48 |
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| oiaohm | Torture does not work full stop. | Oct 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | It's like that old Cheney/Bush thing | Oct 04 15:48 |
| schestowitz | Where they tortured people into making flase confessions that link Iraq to Al Qaeda | Oct 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz | 2+2=5 | Oct 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz | Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili blamed for starting Russian war http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/30/georgia-attacks-unjustifiable-eu | Oct 04 15:49 |
| schestowitz | http://legalift.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/al-hayat-secret-cia-prison-in-south-baghdad-was-run-by-the-cia-until-end-of-2008/ | Oct 04 15:50 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Met Office warns of catastrophic global warming in our lifetimes" http://ping.fm/cX83o | Oct 04 15:51 | |
| oiaohm | Torture is only effective if its used as a trick so a person befriends someone else in camp and spills guts. | Oct 04 15:51 |
| oiaohm | German army knew that in world war 2. | Oct 04 15:51 |
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| schestowitz | fewa: http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/22/obama_administration_seeks_renewal_of_three U SAP AT RIOT act. CHANGE. | Oct 04 15:52 |
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| oiaohm | http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/10/04/1132208/Report-Claims-Iran-Has-Data-To-Build-a-Nuclear-Bomb << The next war? | Oct 04 15:53 |
| phIRCe | Title: Slashdot News Story | Report Claims Iran Has Data To Build a Nuclear Bomb .::. Size~: 142.62 KB | Oct 04 15:53 |
| schestowitz | RMS: "The IMF will work on a global tax on financial companies to build up a fund for future bailouts." | Oct 04 15:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/oct/02/imf-urges-bank-levy | Oct 04 15:55 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: Iran agrees to send uranium abroad after talks breakthrough > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/01/iran-uranium-enrichment-plant-inspection | Oct 04 15:55 |
| schestowitz | I don't believe them, though. Few people do. | Oct 04 15:55 |
| schestowitz | As I understand it, the US gave India and Pakistan the expertise to do so too | Oct 04 15:56 |
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| schestowitz | Swat Valley civilians turn to arms as uneasy peace takes hold < http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/02/swat-vallley-pakistan-taliban-militias > | Oct 04 15:56 |
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| oiaohm | History will repeat again schestowitz | Oct 04 16:03 |
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| fewa | oiaohm, http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/29/fmr_un_weapons_inspector_scott_ritter | Oct 04 16:05 |
| fewa | its all hype | Oct 04 16:05 |
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| fewa | run up to the next Iraq | Oct 04 16:05 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Testing | Oct 04 16:13 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right, we're off to my mum and dads for Sunday dinner. Then I must get my latest piece up on the site. | Oct 04 16:14 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Uniloc Appeals #Microsoft ’s Dodge, #OpenGL 3 #Patent Issues Rear Ugly Head, #Apple Innovates #Crippleware http://ping.fm/l9AHH | Oct 04 16:14 | |
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| schestowitz | fewa: so when will Israel also remove its nukes? | Oct 04 16:14 |
| schestowitz | Or does the US insist on having rockets in this region too? | Oct 04 16:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Well, identibash works, and it's posting to Twitter for me \o/ | Oct 04 16:24 | |
| schestowitz | bbl | Oct 04 16:27 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @tinucherian: When there's a will, I want to be in it. #quote | Oct 04 17:12 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: RT @vinaysreenivasa: Pay cash & get your products in school syllabi http://bit.ly/2fOltr -M$ & the Indian School Certific | Oct 04 17:17 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @vinaysreenivasa: Why did Microsoft pay 3 lakhs to Indian School Certificate Examination (ISCE) chief? http://tr.im/AEvH | Oct 04 18:02 | |
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| omar | Hi all | Oct 04 18:07 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] High-precision progress bar in bash : programming http://post.ly/7Gwh | Oct 04 18:08 | |
| trmanco | hey omar | Oct 04 18:08 |
| omar | trmanco, oh, hi! ^^ | Oct 04 18:12 |
| trmanco | arora 0.10 has been released | Oct 04 18:16 |
| trmanco | http://github.com/Arora/arora/commit/9406811a2dd2e64c4cab0577fb5a8ea00d252b8b#diff-1 | Oct 04 18:16 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] identibash seems to only pull in my posts, not groups I subscribe to | Oct 04 18:24 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I stand corrected lol | Oct 04 18:25 | |
| schestowitz | _goblin:fabs slams Mac OS X :-) http://cdn3.libsyn.com/linuxoutlaws/linuxoutlaws114.ogg?nvb=20091004170743&nva=20091005171743&t=0823110081e52e8671695 | Oct 04 18:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://wikiindex.org/Boycott_Novell | Oct 04 18:32 |
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| trmanco | who wrote it? | Oct 04 18:33 |
| schestowitz | http://saigkill.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/how-to-make-an-podcast/ | Oct 04 18:38 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: Dunno | Oct 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Not me | Oct 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Seems like some new index of Wikis. Nice to see that we were put there. | Oct 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | I ought to work a lot on the Wiki tomorrow | Oct 04 18:38 |
| schestowitz | The front page of the BN wiki got about 200k views (some not counted) this year | Oct 04 18:39 |
| schestowitz | The content is mostly in post, but we need to organise them in a navigable way | Oct 04 18:39 |
| trmanco | use piwik | Oct 04 18:40 |
| trmanco | for stas | Oct 04 18:40 |
| trmanco | stats* | Oct 04 18:40 |
| trmanco | http://piwik.org/ | Oct 04 18:41 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* "Boosters" http://news.opensuse.org/2009/10/03/introducing-the-opensuse-boosters-team/ | Oct 04 18:43 |
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| schestowitz | Don't they know that boosters mean something negative like "Shills" in the convention sense? | Oct 04 18:43 |
| schestowitz | jono: I've been sent the following by mail: | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | <quote> | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Hi, Roy, | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | If you have contact with the FOSS weekly folks, it would be great if you | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | could put in a word about the 10th anniversary of OpenSSH this month. | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | An interview could really highlight the important contributions that | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | FOSS has made to security and the forward thinking of the developers. | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Tatu Ylonen made the original open source SSH and Aaron Campbell, Bob | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | Beck, Markus Friedl, Niels Provos, Theo de Raadt and Dug Song who made | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | OpenSSH are still around, AFAIK. | Oct 04 18:46 |
| schestowitz | </quote> | Oct 04 18:46 |
| jono | awesome, thanks schestowitz | Oct 04 18:46 |
| jono | not sure why they didnt mail us directly, but hey :) | Oct 04 18:47 |
| schestowitz | yw | Oct 04 18:47 |
| schestowitz | News: http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-10-04-004-35-SC-SW-RL (OpenSSH 5.3 is now available) | Oct 04 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | BTW, I was going to say this before: let's stick only to the issues at the show, no off-topic and personal things. That's how PJ does interviews too. | Oct 04 18:47 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: the 'cloud' ain't a paradise after all | Oct 04 18:49 |
| schestowitz | :-D | Oct 04 18:49 |
| trmanco | I continue to say it's the future | Oct 04 18:50 |
| schestowitz | Perl 5.11.0 now available < http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl5.porters/2009/10/msg151376.html > | Oct 04 18:50 |
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| trmanco | ah perl | Oct 04 18:50 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: what? SaaS? | Oct 04 18:50 |
| trmanco | the hackers language | Oct 04 18:50 |
| trmanco | yes | Oct 04 18:50 |
| schestowitz | You could use git services | Oct 04 18:51 |
| trmanco | I ought to learn perl too | Oct 04 18:52 |
| trmanco | when I'm older | Oct 04 18:52 |
| schestowitz | BNc runs Perl | Oct 04 18:53 |
| schestowitz | I also use Perl to make USENET archives | Oct 04 18:53 |
| schestowitz | The COLA stats are built with Perl scripts | Oct 04 18:53 |
| trmanco | it's a great scripting language | Oct 04 18:53 |
| schestowitz | Google uses a lot of Perl | Oct 04 18:54 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, Wall still works there | Oct 04 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's Perl competitor died IIRC | Oct 04 18:54 |
| schestowitz | I'd hate to check. | Oct 04 18:55 |
| schestowitz | They have several | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | trmanco@trmanco-desktop:~$ perl -v | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | This is perl, v5.10.0 built for i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | Copyright 1987-2007, Larry Wall | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5 source kit. | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | this system using "man perl" or "perldoc perl". If you have access to the | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.org/, the Perl Home Page. | Oct 04 18:55 |
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| trmanco | microsoft perl competitor? | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | was that a joke | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | ? | Oct 04 18:55 |
| trmanco | what was it called? perl#? | Oct 04 18:56 |
| schestowitz | No | Oct 04 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Similar functionalities | Oct 04 18:56 |
| schestowitz | But they have IronPython | Oct 04 18:56 |
| schestowitz | And Ruby | Oct 04 18:56 |
| trmanco | perlscript? | Oct 04 18:56 |
| schestowitz | They killed the project w/o the ms-* licences | Oct 04 18:56 |
| trmanco | I bet | Oct 04 18:56 |
| schestowitz | IIRC Perl was made ages ago like the 1980s | Oct 04 18:57 |
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| schestowitz | To extend UNIX functionality | Oct 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | 1987 | Oct 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perl | Oct 04 18:57 |
| trmanco | nah, it wasn't perl script | Oct 04 18:57 |
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| trmanco | "PerlScript was initially solely an ActiveX Scripting Engine produced by the company ActiveState for use with Microsoft's Internet Information Services (IIS) that allows for programmers to use Perl-based code in addition to, or in place of, VBScript or JScript in the context of web servers running the ASP protocol. " | Oct 04 18:57 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know Wall was a _linguist_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Wall | Oct 04 18:58 |
| phIRCe | Title: Larry Wall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 51.72 KB | Oct 04 18:58 |
| schestowitz | Surrey U is closing down its linguistics dept now | Oct 04 18:59 |
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| schestowitz | [IIRC | Oct 04 18:59 |
| schestowitz | If it's not of commercial value (i.e. training people to make money for conglomerates), then people won't teach it anymore | Oct 04 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Same thing with studies -- Ph.D.s are usually to be acquired by serving some sponsor's goals, not pure exploration | Oct 04 19:00 |
| trmanco | well, if you can create you're own programming language, then you're some kind of a master hacker | Oct 04 19:00 |
| schestowitz | No | Oct 04 19:00 |
| schestowitz | You could too | Oct 04 19:00 |
| schestowitz | It's easier with today's tools | Oct 04 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Just learn lexx o bison r yacc | Oct 04 19:01 |
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| schestowitz | Parse text with existing tools | Oct 04 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Then do the tokenisation | Oct 04 19:01 |
| schestowitz | And reuse the high-level stuff | Oct 04 19:01 |
| schestowitz | Like RoR | Oct 04 19:01 |
| schestowitz | There must be like hundreds of P/Ls, maybe thousands | Oct 04 19:01 |
| trmanco | I'll have to get into C first | Oct 04 19:01 |
| trmanco | brb | Oct 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Axiomtek-IPC914210FL/?kc=rss | Oct 04 19:02 |
| phIRCe | Title: Rugged shoebox PC likes it hot - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.33 KB | Oct 04 19:02 |
| schestowitz | Vista 7 looks liike a KDE4 ripoff. http://www.linuxfordevices.com/images/stories/nvidia_nexus.jpg | Oct 04 19:04 |
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| schestowitz | Dapper. Heh. http://www.secuobs.com/revue/news/146297.shtml | Oct 04 19:05 |
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| JPerlow | gotta say after playing with opensuse 11.2 it's shaping up to be a nice distro with kde 4.3 | Oct 04 19:20 |
| trmanco | cool | Oct 04 19:20 |
| JPerlow | http://www.vimeo.com/6888216 | Oct 04 19:21 |
| phIRCe | Title: Tech Broiler openSUSE 11.2 M8 Video Tour on Vimeo .::. Size~: 44.85 KB | Oct 04 19:21 |
| trmanco | that's what the community wants anyway, kde | Oct 04 19:21 |
| *schestowitz looks | Oct 04 19:22 | |
| schestowitz | [homer voice] mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ tech BROILER...[/homer voice] | Oct 04 19:23 |
| JPerlow | I didnt pick the blog name | Oct 04 19:24 |
| trmanco | it does look good | Oct 04 19:24 |
| JPerlow | the EIC thought that since I used Off The Broiler for my personal blog, which is about food, that we call the tech blog Tech Broiler | Oct 04 19:24 |
| JPerlow | I guess it stuck | Oct 04 19:24 |
| schestowitz | I see that VB does Composite OK | Oct 04 19:24 |
| JPerlow | it does | Oct 04 19:25 |
| _goblin | hey Roy, Ive just seen that youre confirmed for oct 14th......I'll look forward to the broadcast. | Oct 04 19:26 |
| JPerlow | what show are you going to be on? | Oct 04 19:27 |
| _goblin | Floss Weekly | Oct 04 19:27 |
| _goblin | Roy that is...not me. | Oct 04 19:27 |
| schestowitz | You're proud of being on zdnet's front page, I see | Oct 04 19:30 |
| _goblin | eh? | Oct 04 19:32 |
| JPerlow | I try to keep the content interesting | Oct 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz | SUSE's KDE is better than most others, still | Oct 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz | More customised | Oct 04 19:32 |
| JPerlow | I looked at kubuntu | Oct 04 19:32 |
| JPerlow | its more stripped down | Oct 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Kubuntu uses more vanilla kde4 | Oct 04 19:32 |
| JPerlow | I think suse provides the nicest one, problably | Oct 04 19:32 |
| JPerlow | havent looked at fedora's | Oct 04 19:32 |
| schestowitz | And it uses gtk front ends for the stuff from ubuntu (gnome) | Oct 04 19:32 |
| trmanco | vanilla kde would be in arch | Oct 04 19:33 |
| trmanco | I think karmic's kde will have the notification applet | Oct 04 19:33 |
| JPerlow | I looked at karmic's kubuntu | Oct 04 19:33 |
| JPerlow | suse's is better, at least from a newbie end user pov | Oct 04 19:33 |
| _goblin | Great feature! Very well written... | Oct 04 19:34 |
| trmanco | I'm sure it is | Oct 04 19:34 |
| JPerlow | the screen casting technolgy is a nice supplement to the articles | Oct 04 19:34 |
| JPerlow | I'm going to use them more | Oct 04 19:34 |
| JPerlow | I wish I could find something that isnt windows based though | Oct 04 19:35 |
| JPerlow | right now camtasia is really the most advanced solution for that | Oct 04 19:35 |
| _goblin | why is SUSE better (not that I rely on either)...being a slackware advocate.... | Oct 04 19:35 |
| JPerlow | I havent touched slack in a very long time | Oct 04 19:36 |
| _goblin | "Once you try Slack you never go back!" | Oct 04 19:36 |
| schestowitz | JPerlow: I have screencasting for Linux | Oct 04 19:38 |
| schestowitz | gtk-recordmydesktop works well | Oct 04 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Good framerate, great GUI | Oct 04 19:38 |
| JPerlow | I'll take a look at it | Oct 04 19:38 |
| schestowitz | Focus follows mouse if you choose it, microphone works out of the box | Oct 04 19:38 |
| schestowitz | thstleweb told me about it, iirc | Oct 04 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Some years ago it was harder doing screencasts | Oct 04 19:39 |
| schestowitz | [19:35] <_goblin> why is SUSE better (not that I rely on either)...being a slackware advocate.... | Oct 04 19:39 |
| schestowitz | SUSE is derived from Slackware | Oct 04 19:39 |
| JPerlow | originaly | Oct 04 19:40 |
| JPerlow | it's gone WAY afar from that path | Oct 04 19:40 |
| _goblin | yes but Jperlow was saying it was better than Ubuntu for a new user. | Oct 04 19:40 |
| JPerlow | no | Oct 04 19:40 |
| _goblin | I wanted to know why... | Oct 04 19:40 |
| JPerlow | I said that it was better than Kubuntu | Oct 04 19:40 |
| _goblin | ah | Oct 04 19:40 |
| _goblin | my bad... | Oct 04 19:40 |
| JPerlow | their KDE 4.3 implementation | Oct 04 19:40 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SUSE_Linux_distributions | Oct 04 19:40 |
| phIRCe | Title: SUSE Linux distributions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 68.3 KB | Oct 04 19:40 |
| schestowitz | "The Slackware distribution (maintained by Patrick Volkerding) was initially based largely on SLS, and the SUSE Linux distribution was originally a German translation of Slackware Linux." | Oct 04 19:40 |
| trmanco | http://images.sixrevisions.com/2009/10/04-02_web_designer_flowchart.jpg | Oct 04 19:41 |
| phIRCe | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 04 19:41 |
| trmanco | wtf | Oct 04 19:41 |
| JPerlow | these things mutate... Mandrake/Conectiva was based on redhat | Oct 04 19:41 |
| trmanco | you don't need to have a damn mac to be a web designer | Oct 04 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Ian's chart is good | Oct 04 19:41 |
| trmanco | nor do you need to have photoshop | Oct 04 19:41 |
| schestowitz | Hold on. | Oct 04 19:41 |
| _goblin | Ive not looked at SUSE since around 2007.... | Oct 04 19:42 |
| schestowitz | Here: The Slackware distribution (maintained by Patrick Volkerding) was initially based largely on SLS, and the SUSE Linux distribution was originally a German translation of Slackware Linux. | Oct 04 19:42 |
| schestowitz | http://ianmurdock.com/linux/linux-family-tree-version-0-90/ | Oct 04 19:42 |
| phIRCe | Title: Linux family tree, version 0.90 « Ian Murdocks Weblog .::. Size~: 45.57 KB | Oct 04 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I have opensuse 10.2 | Oct 04 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Some stranger mailed me a whole bunch of dvds | Oct 04 19:43 |
| _goblin | to be fair though, when Ive seen it running on a collegues rig it appears far more sluggish than what I would like.... | Oct 04 19:44 |
| _goblin | as I always say Wolvix is the fastest distro Ive ever used.... | Oct 04 19:45 |
| _goblin | and Im rabidly becoming a fan of XFCE. | Oct 04 19:45 |
| _goblin | lol *rapidly.. | Oct 04 19:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] The Real Firefox http://post.ly/7HS9 | Oct 04 19:46 | |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 04 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Rabidly | Oct 04 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Just don't foam off the mouth over it ! :-) :-) | Oct 04 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Wolvix | Oct 04 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Aaawwooooooooooooooooooooo | Oct 04 19:47 |
| JPerlow | xfce is nice for memory constrained systems | Oct 04 19:47 |
| JPerlow | I use it on one of my netbooks | Oct 04 19:48 |
| schestowitz | enlightenment also | Oct 04 19:48 |
| JPerlow | I havent touched E in a long time | Oct 04 19:48 |
| JPerlow | but the original developer is a friend of mine | Oct 04 19:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.elivecd.org/ | Oct 04 19:48 |
| schestowitz | "It is built on top of Debian GNU/Linux and customized to meet your needs for a complete operating system while still offering the user eye-candy, with minimal hardware requirements." | Oct 04 19:48 |
| phIRCe | Title: Where Debian meets Enlightenment .::. Size~: 21.57 KB | Oct 04 19:48 |
| phIRCe | "It is built on top of Debian GNU/Linux and customized to meet your needs for a complete operating system while still offering the user eye-candy, with minimal hardware requirements." | Oct 04 19:48 |
| schestowitz | JPerlow: I used it exclusively in 2002 | Oct 04 19:49 |
| _goblin | How long ago did SUSE move away from being Slackware based? was it around v4? | Oct 04 19:49 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: what just happened above? | Oct 04 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Bug in your program? | Oct 04 19:49 |
| trmanco | wtf | Oct 04 19:49 |
| trmanco | http://www.elivecd.org/ | Oct 04 19:50 |
| phIRCe | Title: Where Debian meets Enlightenment .::. Size~: 21.94 KB | Oct 04 19:50 |
| schestowitz | http://tuxtraining.com/2009/10/01/disable-the-clear-issued-when-you-exit-vim | Oct 04 19:51 |
| schestowitz | test | Oct 04 19:51 |
| phIRCe | Title: Disable the clear issued when you exit vim « Tux Training .::. Size~: 20.99 KB | Oct 04 19:51 |
| trmanco | I have no idea | Oct 04 19:51 |
| trmanco | oh you wrote what phirce said | Oct 04 19:51 |
| trmanco | my console log says you wrote it | Oct 04 19:52 |
| trmanco | I really don't know what happened | Oct 04 19:52 |
| gmzlj | schestowitz, thanks for the vim tip | Oct 04 19:53 |
| schestowitz | np | Oct 04 19:53 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: just don't op it. it would ban everyone with bugs like that :-) | Oct 04 19:53 |
| trmanco | heh | Oct 04 19:53 |
| trmanco | it might have got confused | Oct 04 19:54 |
| trmanco | it was pinged while you said that | Oct 04 19:54 |
| trmanco | oh well | Oct 04 19:54 |
| trmanco | carry one :) | Oct 04 19:54 |
| phIRCe | test | Oct 04 19:55 |
| trmanco | strange stuff | Oct 04 19:56 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: it's not hospital-ready (For message-passing) | Oct 04 19:57 |
| schestowitz | phIRCe it is to irc what hurd if to gnu | Oct 04 19:58 |
| trmanco | LOL | Oct 04 19:58 |
| schestowitz | /if/is/ | Oct 04 19:58 |
| trmanco | it a git client | Oct 04 19:58 |
| trmanco | at the moment | Oct 04 19:58 |
| schestowitz | So much noise about a domain name alone: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/320792/linux_australia_linux_conf_au_domain_has_future?rid=-219 | Oct 04 19:59 |
| phIRCe | Title: Linux Australia: Linux.conf.au domain has a future - 2LDs, auDA, Linux, linux.conf.au - Computerworld .::. Size~: 78.13 KB | Oct 04 19:59 |
| schestowitz | phIRCe goes to work; http://xkcd.com/644/ | Oct 04 19:59 |
| phIRCe | Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Surgery .::. Size~: 8.36 KB | Oct 04 19:59 |
| MinceR | hurd is an annoyance on gnu? | Oct 04 20:00 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 04 20:00 |
| trmanco | "It is built on top of Debian GNU/Linux and customized to meet your needs for a complete operating system while still offering the user eye-candy, with minimal hardware requirements." | Oct 04 20:00 |
| trmanco | hmm | Oct 04 20:00 |
| trmanco | http://www.elivecd.org/ | Oct 04 20:01 |
| trmanco | "It is built on top of Debian GNU/Linux and customized to meet your needs for a complete operating system while still offering the user eye-candy, with minimal hardware requirements." | Oct 04 20:01 |
| phIRCe | Title: Where Debian meets Enlightenment .::. Size~: 21.39 KB | Oct 04 20:01 |
| trmanco | :| | Oct 04 20:01 |
| trmanco | I guess it got "overloaded" | Oct 04 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Wow: http://www.itwire.com/content/view/28175/1066/ | Oct 04 20:01 |
| MinceR | does anyone know how to compile kde3 on a modern distro that already ships only with kde4? i've worked around one error in the compilation of arts but now i don't know what to do with the next one. | Oct 04 20:01 |
| schestowitz | use pclinuxos 2009.2 | Oct 04 20:02 |
| MinceR | i'm hoping i don't have to debootstrap hardy into a chroot just so i can also run kde3 | Oct 04 20:02 |
| schestowitz | It does both | Oct 04 20:02 |
| MinceR | i'll look it up | Oct 04 20:02 |
| schestowitz | I used it in July. it rock-solid | Oct 04 20:02 |
| schestowitz | apt-based | Oct 04 20:03 |
| schestowitz | Comes with all the codecs and stuff even on the live cd, so you can boot up and play some youtube music in the bg | Oct 04 20:03 |
| gmzlj | MinceR arch has both | Oct 04 20:04 |
| MinceR | i don't like arch | Oct 04 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/Lightweight-Arora-web-browser-turns-0-10-0--/news/114381 | Oct 04 20:04 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/10/02/plugins-and-static-libraries-don-t-mix-well | Oct 04 20:06 |
| phIRCe | Title: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 04 20:06 |
| trmanco | meh | Oct 04 20:06 |
| trmanco | at least this site actually gives us a response code | Oct 04 20:06 |
| schestowitz | "If you want to make an incredible amount of money it is a good idea to learn GIMP. Sergey Brin did that, created the logo of his startup and got rich. " | Oct 04 20:08 |
| schestowitz | http://meetthegimp.org/episode-121-transparent-transformations-and-getting-rich-with-gimp/ | Oct 04 20:08 |
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| schestowitz | Google - born witn the GIMP | Oct 04 20:08 |
| schestowitz | He used many script-fus | Oct 04 20:08 |
| schestowitz | You can still find these in the archiv | Oct 04 20:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Acabo de completar "você sabe inglês? (melhorado, pff)" e meu resultado foi: yeah, baby! that's right!! Experimente: http://bit.ly/ncOyb | Oct 04 20:10 | |
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| schestowitz | http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=it_s_actually_an_african_word_meaning_gl&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | Oct 04 20:14 |
| phIRCe | Title: Penguin Pete's Blog .::. Size~: 19.59 KB | Oct 04 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Check out the picture | Oct 04 20:14 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has /some/ nerve | Oct 04 20:14 |
| gmzlj | thats so dirty | Oct 04 20:15 |
| schestowitz | That's Microsoft | Oct 04 20:23 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Oct 04 20:24 |
| JPerlow | http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11243 | Oct 04 20:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Blast that volume UP!! ♫ http://blip.fm/~ebq7a | Oct 04 20:28 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "MichaeL FeineR ft. DanieL LindstroM - SaturdaY NighT" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ebqba | Oct 04 20:30 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Michael Feiner - must be the music (extended mix)" ♫ http://blip.fm/~ebqdr | Oct 04 20:32 | |
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| *MinceR is listening to: tempo - plugged in | Oct 04 20:33 | |
| trmanco | hmmm | Oct 04 20:33 |
| MinceR | hmmm? | Oct 04 20:33 |
| trmanco | I'm trying to find a sample | Oct 04 20:34 |
| trmanco | does that exist? or were you just trying to harass me? :-P | Oct 04 20:36 |
| MinceR | what do you mean? | Oct 04 20:36 |
| trmanco | MinceR is listening to: tempo - plugged in | Oct 04 20:36 |
| MinceR | it was an entry at the assembly '95 4channel music compo | Oct 04 20:37 |
| *MinceR is listening to: Purple Motion - Insideout | Oct 04 20:37 | |
| trmanco | is that psy trance? | Oct 04 20:38 |
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| MinceR | it's typical demoscene music, if such a thing exists :) | Oct 04 20:38 |
| mikec_ | Roy, you there? | Oct 04 20:38 |
| trmanco | :) | Oct 04 20:38 |
| schestowitz | http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/wealthyboomer/archive/2009/10/02/michael-moore-sets-out-to-create-a-revolution.aspx | Oct 04 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Hey, mikec_ | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | The new gym closed at 6. What's up w/ that? | Oct 04 20:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.standard.net/topics/opinion/2009/10/02/our-view-wal-mart-nation | Oct 04 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-paul/regulating-systemic-risk-_b_308680.html | Oct 04 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | GOLDMAN SACHS FLOATERS < http://tennesseeindependent.blogspot.com/2009/10/goldman-sachs-floaters.html > | Oct 04 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=alG9K5pfyx54 | Oct 04 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | "http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=alG9K5pfyx54" | Oct 04 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | "Goldman Sachs spokesman Lucas Van Praag didn’t immediately return messages seeking comment." | Oct 04 20:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Op-ed: "Washington And Wall Street Are Destroying The Republic" < http://ping.fm/YGotf > | Oct 04 20:56 | |
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| schestowitz | Meanwhile, Back At The Economy: Unemployment Hits 9.8% < http://www.talkleft.com/story/2009/10/2/104413/529 > Depends on how they count it, which they do improperly still. And Big Business pretends the depression is "Ending" | Oct 04 20:58 |
| phIRCe | Title: Meanwhile, Back At The Economy: Unemployment Hits 9.8% - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime .::. Size~: 74.62 KB | Oct 04 20:58 |
| schestowitz | http://pogson.6k.ca/2009/10/01/et-tu-carla/ | Oct 04 21:01 |
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| schestowitz | "Carla has gone out of her way to find sexism in the presentation." | Oct 04 21:01 |
| trmanco | bloomberg has pages with no content type | Oct 04 21:02 |
| trmanco | way to go | Oct 04 21:02 |
| schestowitz | headsup jono ->>> Trying out Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala beta: netbook and VMWare Fusion/Mac < http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=4377 > | Oct 04 21:03 |
| phIRCe | Title: Trying out Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala beta: netbook and VMWare Fusion/Mac | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 53.01 KB | Oct 04 21:03 |
| schestowitz | IBM's VP of Linux | Oct 04 21:03 |
| schestowitz | So it's worth helping him out. He works with Canonical on the African regions and Ubuntu in vmware coughs badly | Oct 04 21:04 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: Bloomber does not even have RSS feed. They urgently need a redesign for the otherwise good site+content | Oct 04 21:05 |
| trmanco | yes | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | twitter pointed this out some months go, iirc | Oct 04 21:05 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11218 | Oct 04 21:06 |
| schestowitz | http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | trmanco: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/countdown | Oct 04 21:08 |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/directhex/statuses/4608949209 | Oct 04 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | Lund *meh* http://twitter.com/jlundstocholm/statuses/4606628253 | Oct 04 21:10 |
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| jono | schestowitz, thanks for the link :) | Oct 04 21:13 |
| jono | I met him a few weeks back :) | Oct 04 21:13 |
| schestowitz | yw | Oct 04 21:13 |
| jono | right, back to the bug list | Oct 04 21:14 |
| schestowitz | His gut feelings re Linux defines their strategy, so... | Oct 04 21:14 |
| jono | gotta make this RC rock :) | Oct 04 21:14 |
| jono | yeah | Oct 04 21:14 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: does PCLinuxOS also have KDE4? | Oct 04 21:23 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 04 21:23 |
| schestowitz | PCLinuxOS Magazine September 2009 Issue | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | This month's issue includes: | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * KDE 4.3 vs Windows 7 Comparison | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * Behind The Scenes: An Interview with Neal Brooks | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * IRC: The Forgotten Chat Frontier | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * Through The Lens: Photo Management Software | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * How To Set up Easy Samba File Sharing | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * How To Make A Cheap Film Scanner | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * How To Share A Printer With Windows Without Samba | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * Video File Format Cllomparison | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * PCLinuxOS on the Acer Aspire One | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * Creating Movie Archives with dvd::rip | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * Computer Languages A to Z: C and C++ | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * Scripts-R-Us: Repo Speed Test | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * Double Take by Mark Szorady | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * Forum Foibles | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | * And much, much more! | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | `---- | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | http://linuxpr.com/releases/11628.html | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | Early PCLinuxOS KDE 4 Test Run | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | A friend of mine asked me to give him a Linux distribution as soon as | Oct 04 21:24 |
| schestowitz | | possible, so I decided to see if PCLinuxOS was fine for him right now. I also | Oct 04 21:25 |
| schestowitz | | decided to test their early implementation of KDE 4. I’ll keep this post | Oct 04 21:25 |
| schestowitz | | brief because there isn’t much to say. There isn’t a KDE 4 ISO out from | Oct 04 21:25 |
| schestowitz | | PCLinuxOS yet and I assume that will take a while as they add the polish | Oct 04 21:25 |
| schestowitz | | required for the next release, which incidentally will be out… when it’s | Oct 04 21:25 |
| schestowitz | | ready. | Oct 04 21:25 |
| schestowitz | `---- | Oct 04 21:25 |
| schestowitz | http://terminalvariant.co.cc/2009/08/early-pclinuxos-kde4-test-run/ | Oct 04 21:25 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] y'know how I lost a nipple ring? Arkady's Diva-kun doll had lost one just before. oo-WEE-oo | Oct 04 21:56 | |
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| mikec_ | hey roy. you there? | Oct 04 22:06 |
| schestowitz | Sure, what's up? | Oct 04 22:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux is Everywhere and on Everything http://bit.ly/16CQCj | Oct 04 22:13 | |
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| mikec_ | the rowing was v hard for me | Oct 04 22:13 |
| mikec_ | have you been talking to Ho? | Oct 04 22:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #LinuxJournal is Released http://www.linuxjournal.com/issue/187 | Oct 04 22:15 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Linux Journal Contents #187, November 2009 .::. Size~: 36.98 KB | Oct 04 22:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Intel is Shifting More Focus to #GNU and #Linux http://bit.ly/OaDzZ | Oct 04 22:16 | |
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| schestowitz | mikec_: I did, yeah. | Oct 04 22:16 |
| schestowitz | I speak to Steve often | Oct 04 22:16 |
| schestowitz | We get along OK | Oct 04 22:16 |
| mikec_ | That's great | Oct 04 22:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows Leads to Theft, So Authorities Dump it for #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/3j4cjR | Oct 04 22:18 | |
| mikec_ | I don't talk to him so much these days, i don't think he likes the idea of the Mr Fitness comp | Oct 04 22:19 |
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| mikec_ | He's not a bad runner though. | Oct 04 22:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktops Reach Families in Need, Only Run #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/4gQJEd | Oct 04 22:23 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Computers make big difference for families in need | wisconsinrapidstribune.com | Wisconsin Rapids Daily Tribune .::. Size~: 62.58 KB | Oct 04 22:23 |
| schestowitz | mikec_: yes, he's envious | Oct 04 22:23 |
| schestowitz | He want to do the Iron Man challenges now | Oct 04 22:23 |
| schestowitz | To feel as though he's not just a runner | Oct 04 22:23 |
| schestowitz | You'll be better off getting along with a colleague than have mututal resentment | Oct 04 22:24 |
| schestowitz | He's just sad and looking for a purpose really. | Oct 04 22:24 |
| oiaohm | Linux is good enough for a lot of people. | Oct 04 22:25 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the arguements against Linux are the applications. | Oct 04 22:25 |
| oiaohm | I really have to write up why. | Oct 04 22:25 |
| mikec_ | i think you're right, i think i know the real steve now though and i am on my guard! | Oct 04 22:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ComputerWeekly Confirms That #LondonStockExchange Servers May Move to #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/gY2sX | Oct 04 22:27 | |
| phIRCe | Title: LSE eyes Turquoise to boost independence in Europe | 2 Oct 2009 | ComputerWeekly.com .::. Size~: 57.84 KB | Oct 04 22:27 |
| oiaohm | Why has todo with the Foss world construction. | Oct 04 22:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gentoo Powers Big Web Sites http://bit.ly/3Ccplz | Oct 04 22:29 | |
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| *Guest84795 is now known as Balrog_ | Oct 04 22:33 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, games | Oct 04 22:34 |
| schestowitz | Many run in wine | Oct 04 22:34 |
| schestowitz | And wine has good front ends | Oct 04 22:34 |
| schestowitz | mikec_: I think he came there starting pretty much mimicking you | Oct 04 22:34 |
| schestowitz | I find it ironic that after 1-2 years he also expects to beat you | Oct 04 22:34 |
| schestowitz | mikec_: You should try Fitness First. They refurbished all the equipment. It's one of the most modern gyms (except screen 'toys') I've seen in a while | Oct 04 22:36 |
| mikec_ | yes he's a bit weird, he hates it when i get a quicker 10k time, he takes it very bad then accuses me of being er...'competitive'! | Oct 04 22:36 |
| mikec_ | i will be in fitness first tomorrow will you be in | Oct 04 22:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: its not just games schestowitz | Oct 04 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Does autocad run well yet? | Oct 04 22:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Robert Peston: The morning tea deficit explained http://bit.ly/zTVmF | Oct 04 22:40 | |
| schestowitz | mikec_: no, Mondays off | Oct 04 22:40 |
| oiaohm | Some versions of autocad run in wine. | Oct 04 22:40 |
| phIRCe | Title: Robert Peston: The morning tea deficit explained - News of the News .::. Size~: 33.31 KB | Oct 04 22:40 |
| schestowitz | mikec_: actually, I could shift from Tuesday | Oct 04 22:40 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] X Server 1.7 is Out http://bit.ly/lmSJy http://bit.ly/2Rdlad | Oct 04 22:43 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] a's cold is slightly improving, mine is getting worse. i feel like a screwdriver's been stuck in my left ear. f is of course still on crack. | Oct 04 22:43 | |
| phIRCe | Title: [Phoronix] X Server 1.7 Released With XI2/MPX Glory .::. Size~: 15.55 KB | Oct 04 22:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Arora 0.10.0 and N#exuiz 2.5.2 Are Released http://bit.ly/NCDA4 http://alientrap.org/nexuiz/news | Oct 04 22:44 | |
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| mikec_ | well i'll be in around 1pm if you're going Roy | Oct 04 22:44 |
| mikec_ | this years comp is turning out to be a good un | Oct 04 22:45 |
| mikec_ | its difficult to say who will win, but i wouldn't bet against sid, he has some of his best events coming up, like step ups and the cross trainer, plus i reckon he will nail the squat thrusts i have seen him practice and he was good, a lot of it is helped by the fact he cycles to work ten miles each day and back | Oct 04 22:46 |
| schestowitz | I couldn't use the freeweights | Oct 04 22:46 |
| schestowitz | They have just _one_ bench in the whole place (and occupied) | Oct 04 22:47 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, he cycles so much | Oct 04 22:47 |
| schestowitz | Psycho Sid(TM) | Oct 04 22:47 |
| mikec_ | we might have a big lead on sid at the mo, but he'll claw it back soon enough, this is no time for us to take our feet of the gas, psycho sid lol | Oct 04 22:48 |
| mikec_ | Ho can't stand us all getting along with Mr F, he wasn't interested in your rowing performance, he just barged his way past us with a look of contempt, lol! | Oct 04 22:50 |
| schestowitz | You know Psycho Sid(TM), right? | Oct 04 22:50 |
| *schestowitz making sure mikec_ understands the joke | Oct 04 22:50 | |
| mikec_ | i get it lol | Oct 04 22:50 |
| schestowitz | Is WWF still going? | Oct 04 22:51 |
| schestowitz | WCW... | Oct 04 22:51 |
| trmanco | WCW? | Oct 04 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Oct 04 22:52 |
| cubezzz | I sure hope not :) | Oct 04 22:52 |
| schestowitz | There's a bunch of them | Oct 04 22:52 |
| schestowitz | I watched WWF first | Oct 04 22:52 |
| trmanco | wwf? | Oct 04 22:52 |
| trmanco | wrestling? | Oct 04 22:52 |
| schestowitz | Bushido was fun also | Oct 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was real at the time | Oct 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | trmanco: yes | Oct 04 22:53 |
| mikec_ | ok then roy i might see you tomorrow in FF, i'll be in for one pm, toodle pip! | Oct 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Not the Panda Bear | Oct 04 22:53 |
| trmanco | I still watch | Oct 04 22:53 |
| trmanco | currently WWE | Oct 04 22:53 |
| schestowitz | World of Warcraft Wrestling? | Oct 04 22:54 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 04 22:54 |
| MinceR | World Wide Web | Oct 04 22:54 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] K Desktop Environment 4.4 and the Importance of KDE 4 http://bit.ly/QsqZ5 | Oct 04 22:55 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTPFUitur0c | Oct 04 22:56 |
| phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Funniest Vid EVER! Guy gets caught masturbating to Warcraft. .::. Size~: 124.23 KB | Oct 04 22:56 |
| trmanco | wtf | Oct 04 22:56 |
| MinceR | ew | Oct 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | It's funny | Oct 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the CG gal turned him on | Oct 04 22:56 |
| schestowitz | Ooooh! Polygons | Oct 04 22:57 |
| MinceR | perhaps enough of them to create the illusion of a curved surface? :> | Oct 04 22:57 |
| trmanco | loool | Oct 04 22:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Top #GNOME Themes (One Person's Picks) http://bit.ly/17mLJS | Oct 04 22:59 | |
| schestowitz | Game ON! | Oct 04 22:59 |
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| MinceR | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/09/10/04/1956225/Side-By-Side-Assemblies-Bring-DLL-Hell-20?from=rss | Oct 04 23:01 |
| phIRCe | Title: Slashdot Developers Story | "Side By Side Assemblies" Bring DLL Hell 2.0 .::. Size~: 139.89 KB | Oct 04 23:01 |
| MinceR | m$ just keeps on failing at dynamic linking | Oct 04 23:01 |
| schestowitz | It sounds like an old story | Oct 04 23:01 |
| schestowitz | Something about a c# car that leaked | Oct 04 23:02 |
| MinceR | hm, pclinuxos wants to remove ldconfig. i have a bad feeling about this. :) | Oct 04 23:04 |
| oiaohm | Really ld.so needs to be redone at some point. | Oct 04 23:04 |
| oiaohm | Lot of .so conflit events could be removed by a few minor alterations | Oct 04 23:05 |
| MinceR | i mean upgrading the system with synaptic marked ldconfig for removal. | Oct 04 23:06 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu 9.10 Beta Gets Good Early Reviews http://bit.ly/ATUXG http://bit.ly/1Byz2f http://bit.ly/NMpg http://bit.ly/7A4Uy | Oct 04 23:07 | |
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| phIRCe | Title: Trying out Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala beta: dual boot Thinkpad T400 | Blog | Bob Sutor .::. Size~: 51.53 KB | Oct 04 23:07 |
| MinceR | flood-tastic :> | Oct 04 23:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Canonical Prepares for Massive Downloads at End of October http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1921 #launchparty | Oct 04 23:09 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Changes to releases.ubuntu.com rsync/FTP access | The Fridge .::. Size~: 8.81 KB | Oct 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: group for organisation | Oct 04 23:09 |
| schestowitz | identica folks find it useful | Oct 04 23:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WebKit and #Anjal Make #Linux Sub-notebooks Better http://bit.ly/sFv54 | Oct 04 23:11 | |
| phIRCe | Title: OMG! UBUNTU!: Anjal - Slick Evolution Interface For Netbooks .::. Size~: 140.45 KB | Oct 04 23:11 |
| MinceR | hm, and konqueror can't start in it, crashes immediately | Oct 04 23:12 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Seagate Makes Equipment Using #Linux http://bit.ly/JM7Y3 | Oct 04 23:13 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Plug computer design used for storage docking station - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 67.53 KB | Oct 04 23:13 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sub-notebooks with #ChromeOS (Linux) to Come from #China Shortly? http://bit.ly/j3AKX | Oct 04 23:18 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Google Chrome OS on Chinese netbook next month? - CNET Asia Blogs: Sinobytes by Steven Millward, China .::. Size~: 40.19 KB | Oct 04 23:18 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OLPC with #Sugar Find Success in More Countries http://bit.ly/cwDUU http://bit.ly/Xlww | Oct 04 23:19 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #German #Schools Move to #GNU #Linux and #FreeSoftware http://bit.ly/3OM5Lh | Oct 04 23:21 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Hymera Born Out of #Debian #GNU #Linux, Reviewed http://bit.ly/155Nus | Oct 04 23:22 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Hymera Open review LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 68.93 KB | Oct 04 23:22 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: synaptic is insane. | Oct 04 23:25 |
| oiaohm | MinceR: sooner aptitude gtk gets here the better. | Oct 04 23:25 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Many law-abiding and morally upright individuals use Tor for benign purposes trollcat | Trollcats http://post.ly/7Ic5 | Oct 04 23:26 | |
| MinceR | aptitude is obsessed with removing packages. | Oct 04 23:26 |
| MinceR | btw, update-notifier sucks too. | Oct 04 23:26 |
| oiaohm | Depends on it setting. | Oct 04 23:26 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware and #OpenSource Coexist http://bit.ly/5kdEQ @mjasay criticism is not fight | Oct 04 23:27 | |
| phIRCe | Title: 451 CAOS Theory » Strength of support models and symbiosis for free and open source software .::. Size~: 50.66 KB | Oct 04 23:27 |
| oiaohm | synaptic will go complete off its tree and try to uninstall the complete OS. | Oct 04 23:27 |
| oiaohm | Due to a broken install of packages. | Oct 04 23:27 |
| oiaohm | aptituide will work out ok if I install these few package I will not need to remove everything. | Oct 04 23:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Graphics with #FreeSoftware - Wow! http://bit.ly/10vtem | Oct 04 23:28 | |
| oiaohm | So correct the borken package event correctly. | Oct 04 23:28 |
| phIRCe | Title: Mancandy announces Durian | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 51.05 KB | Oct 04 23:28 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenSSH 5.3 and #Perl 5.11.0 Are Released http://bit.ly/198TKA http://bit.ly/Uvg0Z | Oct 04 23:30 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Linux Today - OpenSSH 5.3 is now available .::. Size~: 77.83 KB | Oct 04 23:30 |
| phIRCe | Title: Linux project: How to host a photo album | News | TechRadar UK .::. Size~: 60.25 KB | Oct 04 23:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Explanation of Where #IntellectualMonopoly Comes From http://bit.ly/F3vY2 | Oct 04 23:32 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Genesis of Intellectual Capital As Property | Communist Party of India (Marxist) .::. Size~: 36.47 KB | Oct 04 23:32 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE 4.3 Very Much Likes by User of #Vista7 http://www.vimeo.com/6888216 http://blogs.zdnet.com/perlow/?p=11243 | Oct 04 23:34 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Tech Broiler openSUSE 11.2 M8 Video Tour on Vimeo .::. Size~: 44.86 KB | Oct 04 23:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Perfect Example of Why #Microsoft Deserved to be Disliked by #GNU #Linux Users http://bit.ly/3mcoZu | Oct 04 23:37 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Penguin Pete's Blog .::. Size~: 19.59 KB | Oct 04 23:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SCO to Waste More Money Finding Out Whether to Shut Down? http://bit.ly/CLJxG | Oct 04 23:38 | |
| phIRCe | Title: Groklaw - What To Do About SCO? Let's Spend More Money on Professional Advisors .::. Size~: 91.54 KB | Oct 04 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Is it me or Linux is getting more news than Windows 7 | Oct 04 23:39 |
| MinceR | is that supposed to be surprising? | Oct 04 23:39 |
| MinceR | the only people who care about vista7 work for m$ or one of its lackeys. | Oct 04 23:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Foundation/ #OIN Tackle the #Patent Issues in #OpenGL 3 http://bit.ly/38XMih | Oct 04 23:40 | |
| phIRCe | Title: [Phoronix] Linux Foundation To Take Stab At 3D Patent Issue .::. Size~: 15.98 KB | Oct 04 23:40 |
| oiaohm | Kinda thinking you would expect MS to be dumping a lot of bribes to fill the stream MinceR | Oct 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it does | Oct 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft buys coverage | Oct 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | Like the "approved for Vista 7" fluff | Oct 04 23:40 |
| MinceR | they can't pay as much as many people will write about linux _willingly_ | Oct 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | That's not news | Oct 04 23:40 |
| oiaohm | Yet the money MS is spending seams to be getting less coverage than the Linux guys are getting for nothing. | Oct 04 23:40 |
| schestowitz | It's Microsoft using shills like Ina Fried to push the term "Windows 7" into feeds and people's heads | Oct 04 23:41 |
| MinceR | they're throwing money in all directions | Oct 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | http://bit.ly/3mcoZu | Oct 04 23:41 |
| oiaohm | I hope OIN this time uses it patents against the holders of the problem patents. | Oct 04 23:41 |
| phIRCe | Title: Penguin Pete's Blog .::. Size~: 19.56 KB | Oct 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Even at Ubuntu's direction ^^^^^ | Oct 04 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft buys the keyword "Ubuntu" to advertise Windows | Oct 04 23:41 |
| oiaohm | OIN rules allow it to use its patents against anyone who is a risk. | Oct 04 23:42 |
| oiaohm | http://oiaohm.blogspot.com/2009/10/i-lack-x-application-in-foss-issue.html << My own. | Oct 04 23:46 |
| phIRCe | Title: Oiaohm Battle Ground: The I Lack X application in FOSS issue. .::. Size~: 63.54 KB | Oct 04 23:46 |
| oiaohm | Yes a rare write up by me. | Oct 04 23:46 |
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| trmanco | isn't it "sony vegas"? | Oct 04 23:48 |
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| oiaohm | Not at this stage trmanco | Oct 04 23:50 |
| oiaohm | Remember blenders goal is to be able to do all the movie production from start to end. | Oct 04 23:51 |
| oiaohm | Blender game engine was also the same. Got negelected. | Oct 04 23:51 |
| schestowitz | I should maybe expand the Wiki tomorrow. Just got this: " | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Roy, | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | You may want to start dividing some of the lists, Microsoft for instance is getting too hard to search. What about subdividing into: | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft - Windows | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft - Office | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft - Consumer (XBox) | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft - Dead Divisions | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft - Financials | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft - Legal | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | There's probably other divisions that could be made, but that's what I can think of now. | Oct 04 23:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 04 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Big one I have not checked on has MS closed any of there regional officers around the world. | Oct 04 23:53 |
| trmanco | what I am trying to sai it that, its "sony vegas" and not "sony vagas" :-P | Oct 04 23:54 |
| oiaohm | trmanco: I took sony vegas as an example. I could have taken photoshop but that is a lot more nasty. | Oct 04 23:54 |
| trmanco | ah | Oct 04 23:54 |
| oiaohm | Opps typo | Oct 04 23:54 |
| trmanco | :-P | Oct 04 23:54 |
| oiaohm | Few minor corrections latter | Oct 04 23:56 |
| oiaohm | There are a lot of areas FOSS could do better. Closed source provide of applications do undermine Foss in places by cutting of the users to provide feedback. | Oct 04 23:59 |
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