trmanco | it's related with the link I gave before that one | Oct 11 00:00 |
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schestowitz | One in three votes for Karzai fraudulent, says US diplomat < http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/04/afghanistan-elections-peter-galbraith-un > | Oct 11 00:00 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A call for Obama to change Bush's policies: http://bit.ly/n2cIo | Oct 11 00:00 | |
phIRCe | Title: New Statesman - Change we can’t believe in .::. Size~: 40.08 KB | Oct 11 00:00 |
bozo_ | 128bit refers more to the data bus size than the address size, and it will be to take advantage of the 128bit GPU's that are now being used as processors. | Oct 11 00:00 |
schestowitz | http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/250/install-amarok-2-2-sunjammer-in-ubuntu-in-3-easy-to-do-steps | Oct 11 00:01 |
phIRCe | Title: Install Amarok 2.2 Sunjammer in Ubuntu in 3 easy-to-do steps | Ubuntu Manual .::. Size~: 28.99 KB | Oct 11 00:01 |
trmanco | http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/57628/t-mobile-apologizes-for-sidekick-outage-offers-a-months-free-data/ | Oct 11 00:01 |
trmanco | they lost their data | Oct 11 00:02 |
schestowitz | BTW, bozo_ is MUTEX | Oct 11 00:02 |
trmanco | but you won't use all it's functionality, at least in jaunty | Oct 11 00:03 |
schestowitz | For those who haven't recognised the style yet | Oct 11 00:03 |
trmanco | yeah | Oct 11 00:03 |
bozo_ | Schestowitz ??? what's you're point ? | Oct 11 00:03 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | Oct 11 00:03 |
schestowitz | Microsoft gave them a sidekiack | Oct 11 00:03 |
trmanco | confirmed | Oct 11 00:03 |
schestowitz | bozo_: stop nymshifting | Oct 11 00:04 |
schestowitz | it's bad enough that you ban-evade | Oct 11 00:04 |
Omar87 | Will__, Yeah, agreed. I found the same phenomenon here in Jordan too. | Oct 11 00:04 |
bozo_ | what would I be baned from, can you link any post I have ever made here that is any more then disagreeing with you ? | Oct 11 00:04 |
schestowitz | It's not the reason you were banned | Oct 11 00:06 |
bozo_ | yes, it was, or why else was it ? | Oct 11 00:06 |
bozo_ | I know I dont take everything you say as truth, and I check your facts, why do you have a problem with that ? | Oct 11 00:07 |
yuhong | I don't agree entirely with everything on the site either, but do contribute some useful stuff. | Oct 11 00:10 |
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bozo_ | so do i. | Oct 11 00:11 |
trmanco | haha | Oct 11 00:11 |
trmanco | even better | Oct 11 00:11 |
trmanco | http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/10/t-mobile-sidekick-disaster-microsofts-servers-crashed-and-they-dont-have-a-backup/ | Oct 11 00:11 |
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trmanco | see title | Oct 11 00:11 |
trmanco | "Wow. T-Mobile and Danger, the Microsoft-owned subsidiary that makes the Sidekick, has just announced that they’ve likely lost all user data that was being stored on Microsoft’s servers due to a server failure." | Oct 11 00:13 |
trmanco | haha | Oct 11 00:13 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=4983 "Traitor (56%)" | Oct 11 00:14 |
schestowitz | It was 40% beforehand | Oct 11 00:14 |
schestowitz | "Do you consider Miguel de Icaza leader in open source or a traitor?" | Oct 11 00:14 |
schestowitz | I'v cast my vote | Oct 11 00:14 |
schestowitz | bozo_: stick with the old name | Oct 11 00:15 |
schestowitz | We'll give you another chance. It's abuse that had you banned months ago | Oct 11 00:15 |
bozo_ | What abuse please Mr Schestowitz ?? | Oct 11 00:15 |
MinceR | how many chances did he get so far? | Oct 11 00:15 |
bozo_ | chances for what ? | Oct 11 00:15 |
trmanco | I have no ban list :| | Oct 11 00:16 |
schestowitz | trmanco: Get the Facts | Oct 11 00:16 |
schestowitz | How about it happening to LSE | Oct 11 00:16 |
schestowitz | "Oops. We lost all the bank data" | Oct 11 00:16 |
trmanco | but this is more funny | Oct 11 00:16 |
schestowitz | "Let's start over" | Oct 11 00:16 |
trmanco | the LSE didn't loose data | Oct 11 00:16 |
trmanco | they just had some downtime | Oct 11 00:17 |
schestowitz | Microsoft ruined Danger | Oct 11 00:17 |
schestowitz | Their reputation is dead for good | Oct 11 00:17 |
trmanco | I would consider this worse if the LSE wasn't a stock exchange thing | Oct 11 00:17 |
schestowitz | But anyway, it fits well in a post tomorrow about WM | Oct 11 00:17 |
trmanco | WM? | Oct 11 00:19 |
schestowitz | http://insidesocal.com/click/2009/10/ubuntu-904-im-feeling-pretty-g.html | Oct 11 00:19 |
schestowitz | Windows Mob | Oct 11 00:19 |
trmanco | Wacky Microsoft? | Oct 11 00:19 |
trmanco | ah | Oct 11 00:19 |
schestowitz | http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/News/LinuxCon-Presentations-Available-Online. | Oct 11 00:19 |
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schestowitz | I'm gonna use these faily now | Oct 11 00:19 |
schestowitz | *daily | Oct 11 00:19 |
trmanco | dot dot | Oct 11 00:19 |
schestowitz | http://wine-reviews.net/wine-reviews/news/windows-8-to-be-128-bit-operating-system.html | Oct 11 00:21 |
yuhong | Reminds me of the Wacky Mackey nickname for John Mackey. | Oct 11 00:21 |
schestowitz | Vapourware propaganation | Oct 11 00:21 |
schestowitz | *propagation | Oct 11 00:21 |
schestowitz | And propaganda too :-) | Oct 11 00:21 |
schestowitz | http://manchester.fsuk.org/blog/2009/10/05/administrative-and-social-meeting-12th-october/ | Oct 11 00:22 |
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schestowitz | Why Waterhouse? http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/54/5490/Waterhouse/Manchester | Oct 11 00:23 |
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trmanco | http://manchester.fsuk.org/blog/2009/10/05/administrative-and-social-meeting-12th-october/ | Oct 11 00:32 |
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trmanco | :| | Oct 11 00:32 |
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trmanco | http://manchester.fsuk.org/blog/2009/10/05/administrative-and-social-meeting-12th-october/ | Oct 11 00:34 |
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trmanco | meh | Oct 11 00:34 |
trmanco | I don't know what the problem is :| | Oct 11 00:34 |
schestowitz | Something in konv | Oct 11 00:34 |
schestowitz | it's OK in other clients | Oct 11 00:34 |
schestowitz | Weird character there | Oct 11 00:34 |
schestowitz | Oct 11 00:34 | |
schestowitz | test | Oct 11 00:34 |
schestowitz | see? | Oct 11 00:34 |
trmanco | lol | Oct 11 00:34 |
schestowitz | test test test | Oct 11 00:35 |
trmanco | :| | Oct 11 00:35 |
trmanco | so the bot is ok? :-P | Oct 11 00:35 |
schestowitz | Just sanitise it | Oct 11 00:35 |
yuhong | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/08/11/microsoft-migrations-stories/ | Oct 11 00:37 |
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yuhong | "In that case, they would go above the CIO’s head and pitch their wares directly to the CEO and then they were generally successful." | Oct 11 00:37 |
yuhong | Even though in many of these cases the CEO don't know anything much about IT. | Oct 11 00:38 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 2000th tweet! How much of my life have I wasted? | Oct 11 00:38 | |
yuhong | I think MS targets MBAs who only cares about numbers and only cares about "maximizing shareholder value", and most of them have no domain knowledge.] | Oct 11 00:39 |
yuhong | Yep, it is another mess altogether. | Oct 11 00:39 |
yuhong | Yep, that itself is another mess altogether. | Oct 11 00:40 |
yuhong | http://thenextwavefutures.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/the-end-of-shareholder-value/ | Oct 11 00:40 |
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yuhong | Looks like smart quotes. | Oct 11 00:41 |
yuhong | And 0x13 looks like a long slash. | Oct 11 00:42 |
trmanco | I am striping about ox13 | Oct 11 00:43 |
trmanco | 0x13* | Oct 11 00:43 |
yuhong | It looks like a slash | Oct 11 00:43 |
trmanco | [0-9a-z] | Oct 11 00:43 |
trmanco | well, time to get going | Oct 11 00:46 |
trmanco | gn | Oct 11 00:46 |
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schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139192/Google_patches_DoS_vulnerabilities_in_Android | Oct 11 00:47 |
schestowitz | yuhong: agreed | Oct 11 00:48 |
yuhong | See how they use statitics like ROI to justify Microsoft software. | Oct 11 00:49 |
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schestowitz | yuhong: yes, charts and stuff | Oct 11 00:50 |
schestowitz | They adapt to the target audience | Oct 11 00:50 |
schestowitz | Not engineers] | Oct 11 00:50 |
schestowitz | That's how they get into LSE and the liesk | Oct 11 00:50 |
schestowitz | *likes | Oct 11 00:50 |
schestowitz | http://caas.tmcnet.com/topics/web-2/articles/66271-bonitasoft-joins-ow2-consortium.htm | Oct 11 00:50 |
yuhong | I would download except that the last commit was 3 days ago. | Oct 11 00:50 |
yuhong | Why the CEO would meddle into IT when he don't know anything about IT is another mess altogether. | Oct 11 00:51 |
yuhong | I think MS targets MBAs who only cares about numbers and only cares about "maximizing shareholder value", and most of them have no domain knowledge at all, another mess altogether. | Oct 11 00:53 |
yuhong | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10/10/1818249/Windows-Server-Trusts-Samba4-Active-Directory?art_pos=5 | Oct 11 00:54 |
yuhong | "Although Samba v4 is still in the alpha stages, this is a huge step for open source. Or it could be a trap." | Oct 11 00:54 |
yuhong | What do you think? | Oct 11 00:54 |
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schestowitz | yuhong: Microsoft uses LikeWise | Oct 11 00:56 |
schestowitz | They might at some stage say patent stuff about Samba and try to sell LikeWise like they sell Novell | Oct 11 00:56 |
schestowitz | But we can't know ywt | Oct 11 00:56 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/09/23/likewise-as-microsoft-trojan/ | Oct 11 00:56 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] well, another day, another defeat for the Scots. At least we played a bit better this time | Oct 11 00:57 | |
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yuhong | And the NVIDIA IGPs are going to die with graphics going into the CPU, good riddense since they are the only one that rely on non-free drivers for 3D. | Oct 11 01:16 |
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schestowitz | "It seems the author is trying to milk as much as he can from his interview with Richard Stallman." Ex-actly! http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-10-10-002-35-IN-SW-LL-0000 | Oct 11 01:25 |
schestowitz | Bruce plays that old line again http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Writing-about-FOSS-sexism | Oct 11 01:28 |
schestowitz | Sexism is an IT problem, not a FOSS problem | Oct 11 01:28 |
schestowitz | http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601127&sid=auEdN89spBro | Oct 11 01:41 |
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schestowitz | 10 Stunning Pumpkin Carvings http://www.womansday.com/Articles/Family-Lifestyle/Holidays/10-Stunning-Pumpkin-Carvings.html | Oct 11 01:43 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Hyperdrive Propulsion Could Be Tested at the #LargeHadronCollider < http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/24211/ > | Oct 11 01:44 | |
schestowitz | When Public Power Is Used for Private Gain http://reason.com/archives/2009/10/08/when-public-power-is-used-for | Oct 11 01:45 |
schestowitz | http://nat.org/blog/2009/10/obsoleting-hotels/ | Oct 11 01:49 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nouveau and #ATI Make Linux Progress http://ur1.ca/dcfb http://ur1.ca/dcfc | Oct 11 02:11 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TinyCore #Linux 2.4is Out http://bit.ly/2qDwS8 | Oct 11 02:17 | |
cubezzz | where's the interview though? | Oct 11 02:17 |
schestowitz | Frugal tech show or something lik that | Oct 11 02:18 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva #Linux 2010 Just a Small Step Away from Final Release http://ur1.ca/dcft http://ur1.ca/dcfu | Oct 11 02:24 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gentoo Turns 10 and Keeps Growing, Spreading http://ur1.ca/dcfz http://ur1.ca/dcg0 http://ur1.ca/dcg1 | Oct 11 02:27 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian on Boarding of Winning Robot #Submarine http://bit.ly/4HwUB | Oct 11 02:27 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat #Virtualisation Targets Also Desktops http://bit.ly/V0vOE | Oct 11 02:33 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Phones Gain Fast at Expense of Proprietary Platforms http://ur1.ca/dcgf http://ur1.ca/dcgg http://ur1.ca/dcgh | Oct 11 02:36 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/826 | Oct 11 03:26 |
DaemonFC | $100 quad core CPU | Oct 11 03:26 |
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cubezzz | I was thinking a bit about Facebook and I've come to the conclusion that I don't like it | Oct 11 04:17 |
cubezzz | not only is it non-FOSS it's dog slow | Oct 11 04:18 |
cubezzz | turtle slow even | Oct 11 04:18 |
cubezzz | and the media manages to confuse open source and free source again | Oct 11 04:30 |
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tessier | A ballot screen, which MS will surely find a way to rig in their favor (such as viewing it in IE), won't undo 10+ years worth of damage. | Oct 11 04:55 |
Omar87 | There is this feature that I really miss in MS Office Powerpoint though, to be honest. | Oct 11 05:12 |
Omar87 | The feature of being able to draw illustrations with pens and highlighting or underlining parts of the text. | Oct 11 05:14 |
tessier | pens? | Oct 11 05:14 |
Omar87 | I believe it would be a great idea if they provide something similar in the OO.o release. | Oct 11 05:15 |
Omar87 | tessier, I meant those tools you find when right-clicking during a slideshow, and choosing "Change cursor" or whatever that particular tab is named. | Oct 11 05:16 |
Omar87 | You'll find a set of tools to choose from, like normal pen, ball-pen, highlighter... etc. | Oct 11 05:17 |
Omar87 | You can even change the ink color. | Oct 11 05:19 |
Omar87 | I wonder why OO.o still lacks this feature. | Oct 11 05:19 |
Omar87 | I'm even thinking of writing an article about that. | Oct 11 05:20 |
DaemonFC | Omar87, Just write the feature yourself | Oct 11 05:34 |
DaemonFC | standard answer number 1 | Oct 11 05:34 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Oct 11 05:34 |
cubezzz | you beat me to it | Oct 11 05:34 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, lol. | Oct 11 05:35 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, but what I have no experience in the field of programming? :) | Oct 11 05:36 |
DaemonFC | Omar87, Then I would say that you should learn | Oct 11 05:36 |
DaemonFC | because everyone should | Oct 11 05:36 |
DaemonFC | ;) | Oct 11 05:36 |
cubezzz | well... | Oct 11 05:36 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, that's right. | Oct 11 05:37 |
DaemonFC | nobody has anything better to do than learn multiple computer programming languages so they can implement the missing features they need to do......their job with | Oct 11 05:37 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, I have to agree. :) | Oct 11 05:37 |
DaemonFC | what part of this does not make sense to you? | Oct 11 05:37 |
DaemonFC | and you can always assume that when you learn 5 languages and write all the missing features that the developer clique will accept your patches | Oct 11 05:37 |
DaemonFC | because they always do | Oct 11 05:38 |
cubezzz | that part doesn't matter | Oct 11 05:38 |
cubezzz | you have your own fixes | Oct 11 05:38 |
cubezzz | or features, or patches, whatever | Oct 11 05:38 |
cubezzz | if your patches are good and it's not the kernel, they'll probably go in | Oct 11 05:43 |
cubezzz | but you can't assume they will | Oct 11 05:43 |
Omar87 | cubezzz, DaemonFC, ya know? | Oct 11 05:44 |
Omar87 | From now on this is what I'm gonna do. | Oct 11 05:44 |
Omar87 | I will try my best to expand my Python adventure to include Java, Ruby and perhaps even PHP. | Oct 11 05:45 |
cubezzz | let's not make broad generalizations like "nobody has anything better to do" | Oct 11 05:47 |
cubezzz | since we already know that's not true | Oct 11 05:47 |
Omar87 | cubezzz, agreed. | Oct 11 05:49 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, Sarcasm is lost in plaintext | Oct 11 05:57 |
DaemonFC | I keep overlooking that | Oct 11 05:57 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] At #fosscomm meeting at hbcse . Round table is full | Oct 11 06:39 | |
cubezzz | wow, just listening to the windows radio show is sobering | Oct 11 06:58 |
cubezzz | which is odd since it started with Stallman at the beginning | Oct 11 06:59 |
cubezzz | or pc radio show | Oct 11 06:59 |
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cubezzz | this didn't work, that didn't work, damn I'm glad I'm out of that crap | Oct 11 07:46 |
cubezzz | "where the hell is the rescue disk" | Oct 11 07:46 |
cubezzz | there isn't one, too bad emachines user | Oct 11 07:46 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Seen as the Right Route for #India http://ur1.ca/dcsj | Oct 11 08:28 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Netgear Responds to Accusations of Dishonouring the #GPL http://ur1.ca/dcsm http://ur1.ca/dcsn | Oct 11 08:36 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] US #Patent System is Broken, Further Erosion of Freedom Evident http://ur1.ca/dcst http://ur1.ca/dcsu #swpat | Oct 11 09:00 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] "massive #data #failure threatens to put a dark cloud over #Microsoft 's ' #software plus services' strategy. " http://ur1.ca/dcto | Oct 11 09:04 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Killing #WindowsMobile http://ur1.ca/dct1 http://ur1.ca/dct2 | Oct 11 09:06 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Attempts at Own #Phones Failing Already http://ur1.ca/dct3 http://ur1.ca/dct4 http://ur1.ca/dct5 | Oct 11 09:08 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Wipes Data of Very Many Customers http://ur1.ca/dcqz #majorfail | Oct 11 09:08 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft's Latest Portable Media Player Fails Upon Arrival http://ur1.ca/dcta http://ur1.ca/dctb #zune | Oct 11 09:12 | |
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oiaohm | Hmm wonder if the portable failure will make nvidia more friendly. | Oct 11 09:25 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows #Trojans -- Not Phishing -- Blamed for Microsoft's Account Compromise http://ur1.ca/dctn | Oct 11 09:26 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ECIS and #Opera Oppose Microsoft's Deal in #Europe http://ur1.ca/dctp http://ur1.ca/dctq | Oct 11 09:33 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft 's #PR Department ( #WaggenerEdstrom ) Caught Playing Dirty http://ur1.ca/dctz | Oct 11 09:41 | |
schestowitz | oiaohm: as in open source? | Oct 11 09:53 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nonprofit Dumps Microsoft for #GNU #Linux and #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/dcsx | Oct 11 09:57 | |
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oiaohm | schestowitz: yup as in open source specs for the chip in the zune hd have been really hard to get hands on | Oct 11 10:13 |
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oiaohm | http://trombonechamp.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/the-situation-now-2019/ Nice laugh of a read | Oct 11 10:17 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Against Transparency: The perils of openness in government. http://ur1.ca/dcvn @lessig | Oct 11 10:18 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Had a lot of fun with Julian yesterday night. He brought his VIAO laptop and installed Windows XP Pro and later Ubuntu 9.04 under VMWare. | Oct 11 10:39 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] He installed Ubuntu almost by him self. Loved it it. He was very enthousiast about the package- and update manager. | Oct 11 10:42 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Next week we'll install #Fedora as dualboot. He hates DOS and has absolute no experience with #Linux. Fortunately his lover can help him ;-) | Oct 11 11:08 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] playing old Perth indie rock to Freda. Manikins 1979 tape, "Love At Second Sight" and "Premonition". Lost punk pop classics. | Oct 11 11:19 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Lab Leader Leaves the Company, #Olympic Committee at Risk of Microsoft Influence http://ur1.ca/dcwu | Oct 11 11:51 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s PR Department #WaggenerEdstrom Dishonestly Handles Damage Control http://ur1.ca/dcwv | Oct 11 11:51 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst Hi Marty! Hope youre well... | Oct 11 12:05 | |
oiaohm | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139210/What_s_replacing_P2P_BitTorrent_as_pirate_hangouts_ Sometimes you have to wonder. | Oct 11 12:11 |
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oiaohm | The major advantage of P2P is the person who started it could disconnect and disappear. | Oct 11 12:11 |
mutex_ | except when you download a movie like Blues Brothers, and find out it's in spannish | Oct 11 12:13 |
oiaohm | Safe harbors don't say secret | Oct 11 12:15 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Parties Behind Complaints Against #Microsoft in #EU Not Pleased http://ur1.ca/dcy6 #opera #ecis | Oct 11 12:20 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Uses #NASA and #SwineFlu to Advance Own Agenda http://bit.ly/1CbLPQ | Oct 11 12:20 | |
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trmanco | http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2009/10/10/t-mobile-microsoft-lost-all-the-sidekick-backups/ | Oct 11 12:20 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] T-Mobile: Microsoft Lost All the Sidekick Backups: http://is.gd/4dsjh || Oops! | Oct 11 12:22 | |
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schestowitz | Ahhh.. it's just data | Oct 11 12:27 |
schestowitz | "We'll get you another one" | Oct 11 12:27 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Continues Downward Slide http://bit.ly/4e67dJ | Oct 11 12:28 | |
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schestowitz | There seems to be lag here | Oct 11 12:29 |
schestowitz | identica doesn't send to twitter the messages | Oct 11 12:29 |
trmanco | http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2009/10/09/motorola-to-limo-sorry-were-with-android-now/ | Oct 11 12:33 |
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schestowitz | LiMo employs anti-RMS shills | Oct 11 12:49 |
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cubezzz | didn't realize Paul Allen lost so much money | Oct 11 12:58 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Even Some Big #Windows Fans Worry About #Vista7 http://bit.ly/3X9Zj3 | Oct 11 13:00 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Parties Behind Complaints Against #Microsoft in #EU Not Pleased http://ur1.ca/dcy6 #opera #ecis | Oct 11 13:00 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Pays #IDC (Again) to Assist #Government Lobbying http://bit.ly/jZF6S | Oct 11 13:01 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @_Goblin: Yo Jonbo, I'm fine (never felt so good before). Hope you are well as well ;-) | Oct 11 13:05 | |
trmanco | http://www.perrier.eu.org/weblog/2009/10/01#devel-countries | Oct 11 13:14 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Uses #NASA and #SwineFlu to Advance Own Agenda http://bit.ly/1CbLPQ | Oct 11 13:16 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Pays #IDC (Again) to Assist #Government Lobbying http://bit.ly/jZF6S | Oct 11 13:16 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Even Some Big #Windows Fans Worry About #Vista7 http://bit.ly/3X9Zj3 | Oct 11 13:17 | |
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trmanco | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/28410/53/ | Oct 11 13:21 |
trmanco | oh blame the cloud now | Oct 11 13:21 |
trmanco | ... | Oct 11 13:21 |
Diablo-D3 | except there was no cloud there | Oct 11 13:21 |
Diablo-D3 | thats why they lost data | Oct 11 13:21 |
Diablo-D3 | it was a very small scale storage cluster | Oct 11 13:21 |
Diablo-D3 | where by cluster I mean a single computer with lots of drives plugged into it | Oct 11 13:22 |
trmanco | oh, and the don't do backups | Oct 11 13:22 |
trmanco | ... | Oct 11 13:23 |
trmanco | they* | Oct 11 13:23 |
oiaohm | Even a cluster and have a major drive screw up Diablo-D3 | Oct 11 13:23 |
oiaohm | Backups should have been done. | Oct 11 13:23 |
Diablo-D3 | yeah, I was about to say that | Oct 11 13:24 |
Diablo-D3 | where the fuck are the backups | Oct 11 13:24 |
Diablo-D3 | I hope there is a giant fucking class action suite | Oct 11 13:24 |
Diablo-D3 | all 10 users should be millionares after this | Oct 11 13:24 |
schestowitz | I'm doing a post about it ATM | Oct 11 13:24 |
trmanco | a paid service with now backups | Oct 11 13:24 |
Diablo-D3 | actually, heres an even bigger question | Oct 11 13:25 |
trmanco | no* | Oct 11 13:25 |
Diablo-D3 | cant you back up your own data? | Oct 11 13:25 |
mutex_ | it's the first rule in computing ! | Oct 11 13:25 |
trmanco | huh, we need to ask one of it's users | Oct 11 13:25 |
oiaohm | MS does not provide a system interface to sync it off there site Diablo-D3 | Oct 11 13:26 |
Diablo-D3 | I meant directly off the phone | Oct 11 13:26 |
trmanco | it was a sync service for cell phones so I would say yes | Oct 11 13:26 |
oiaohm | Most other cloud services provide some form of backup system. | Oct 11 13:26 |
Diablo-D3 | see above | Oct 11 13:26 |
Diablo-D3 | cant you back up your own phone with your own computer? | Oct 11 13:26 |
*Diablo-D3 must gwibber this | Oct 11 13:26 | |
trmanco | no idea | Oct 11 13:26 |
trmanco | LOL | Oct 11 13:26 |
oiaohm | Not always possible to get to computer to do it Diablo-D3 | Oct 11 13:27 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: then microsoft should prepare their anus with copious amounts of lube | Oct 11 13:27 |
*trmanco might ChoqoK this | Oct 11 13:27 | |
oiaohm | Also not all phones have usb link kits. | Oct 11 13:27 |
trmanco | translation please? | Oct 11 13:27 |
oiaohm | Ie you need the link kit to download off some phones. | Oct 11 13:28 |
oiaohm | Not all phones can you get it. | Oct 11 13:28 |
trmanco | I was referring to Diablo-D3 sentence | Oct 11 13:28 |
trmanco | the majority of today's phones connect to computers | Oct 11 13:29 |
oiaohm | trmanco: He is meaning they are going to get there assed sued off. | Oct 11 13:29 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] There is some serious lag in identica->twiter traffic today (hours). Sorry for dupes. | Oct 11 13:29 | |
trmanco | you don't need usb, you can use bluetooth or really the out dated infrared syncs | Oct 11 13:29 |
trmanco | but who? Danger or Microsoft? :-P | Oct 11 13:30 |
oiaohm | There are still models without dependable bluetooth and they don't have infrared sync. | Oct 11 13:30 |
oiaohm | trmanco: Microsoft | Oct 11 13:30 |
trmanco | right, danger is a microsoft company | Oct 11 13:30 |
oiaohm | Microsoft risks there asss sued off over lost data. | Oct 11 13:31 |
oiaohm | What they quite deserve. Why be running a online service without backups of your own. | Oct 11 13:31 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft Pink is Already Declared Dead and Danger Dies with Permanent Data Loss http://ur1.ca/dd3y | Oct 11 13:57 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #T3 is Partly Owned by #Microsoft Now http://bit.ly/xogsq | Oct 11 14:11 | |
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oiaohm | http://www.itpro.co.uk/blogs/daveyw/2009/10/11/microsoft-reveals-time-based-licensing-model/ Great | Oct 11 14:44 |
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oiaohm | Just when you though MS licences could not get any more annoying. | Oct 11 14:45 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenSUSE Adds to #Novell ’s Hostility Towards the #FreeSoftwareFoundation http://bit.ly/Fqx0D #gnu #gnu | Oct 11 15:02 | |
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mutex_ | LOL MS's "patch tuesday" 13 bullitins in the 13th, I wonder if they will releases the 13 patches at 13:13 ? | Oct 11 15:07 |
mutex_ | "Huston we have a problem" | Oct 11 15:07 |
trmanco | heh | Oct 11 15:15 |
trmanco | 13:13:13 | Oct 11 15:15 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Don't you love it when "analysts" use a #buzzword wrong? http://ur1.ca/dd2x #cloud #microsoft | Oct 11 15:21 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Hotmail and #Gmail Data Breach Potentially Due to #Windows #Trojan http://bit.ly/3onSQF | Oct 11 15:33 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] laptop-alost-fixed-just-one-key-not-working.ake-that-two. | Oct 11 16:07 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Playing Nurse With Wound. Both teens react like I shat in their ears. I believe this is the effect industrial music was supposed to have. | Oct 11 16:14 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] `1234567890-qwertyuiop[]asdfghjkl;'#\zxcvbnm,./ Much better. Now just need the plus/equals and the left-alt. And left mouse. | Oct 11 16:26 | |
DaemonFC | I may finally be able to actually use the X86-64 version of FreeBSD now that I won't have an Nvidia card | Oct 11 16:28 |
schestowitz | BSD? | Oct 11 16:28 |
DaemonFC | Nvidia seems to be pretty dead set on not helping FOSS at all, even when the patch would be trivial | Oct 11 16:28 |
DaemonFC | unless the license necessitates it | Oct 11 16:28 |
DaemonFC | yeah, I was using 32-bit FreeBSD with a PAE kernel so my Nvidia card could work | Oct 11 16:29 |
DaemonFC | Nvidia has now gone 4 years without supporting X86-64 BSDs | Oct 11 16:30 |
DaemonFC | apparently the Radeon HD line works fine | Oct 11 16:30 |
DaemonFC | it's been a long long long time since I've used an ATI Radeon, so long that I think it was a 9800 Pro on regular PCI bus with 128 megs of RAM | Oct 11 16:32 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 11 16:32 |
DaemonFC | I'm not counting this integrated 200m in this old laptop | Oct 11 16:32 |
DaemonFC | the CPU of that system was a 2.93 Ghz Celeron D (Pentium 4 based), and it was two things, hot and slow | Oct 11 16:33 |
DaemonFC | think it came with XP and I had 512 megs of RAM in it | Oct 11 16:34 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] WORK YOU COCKING THING | Oct 11 16:34 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] 6 | Oct 11 16:34 | |
DaemonFC | I had it for a few years and got rid of it cause it wouldn't play Doom 3 | Oct 11 16:34 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @ml2mst Nice to hear you so happy, love your new picture btw. Regards. | Oct 11 16:37 | |
schestowitz | I've gotta run. bbl | Oct 11 16:45 |
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Omar87 | Hi all. | Oct 11 16:57 |
DaemonFC | Omar87, The new Hate Crimes bill is finally going to pass after 11 years | Oct 11 16:59 |
DaemonFC | they attached it to a funding measure for the Department of Defense so that the Republicans have to vote for it | Oct 11 16:59 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 11 16:59 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, what are you talking about? | Oct 11 17:01 |
DaemonFC | the new law will make it a federal crime to assault someone due to age, race, religion, sex, disability, or sexual orientation | Oct 11 17:01 |
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Omar87 | ok | Oct 11 17:01 |
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DaemonFC | it would be nice if they could work in the healthcare reform bill in pieces attached to things that had to pass | Oct 11 17:02 |
DaemonFC | they need to start playing hardball like this and I'm glad they finally see it | Oct 11 17:02 |
DaemonFC | I don't care what they have to do to get this stuff done, so long as they get it done | Oct 11 17:03 |
DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard_Act | Oct 11 17:04 |
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DaemonFC | there it is | Oct 11 17:04 |
DaemonFC | the religious far right are up in arms over it | Oct 11 17:08 |
DaemonFC | they think it's their God-given right to murder people they disagree with or incite violence against them | Oct 11 17:09 |
DaemonFC | there already are sensible limits on freedom of speech, you can't expect to yell "FIRE!!!" in a crowded movie theater and not expect to be charged with a crime if you're lying | Oct 11 17:10 |
DaemonFC | why should these right wingnut pastors get to say "God hates so and so, they should be STRUCK DOWN and SMITTEN!!!" | Oct 11 17:11 |
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DaemonFC | that's basically just telling someone else to go murder someone for you | Oct 11 17:11 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Giving KDE 4.3.2 a look...having always preferred Gnome I want to see if it lives up to everything Ive read. #linux #foss #kde #gnome | Oct 11 17:17 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Chance meeting. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/15417.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/529374.html | Oct 11 17:29 | |
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DaemonFC | the neighbor got back from Michigan with a bunch of a brand of hot dogs they only sell there | Oct 11 17:29 |
DaemonFC | several people from Michigan told me they were good so I had her get me a 0 pack | Oct 11 17:29 |
DaemonFC | *40 | Oct 11 17:30 |
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_goblin | hi all | Oct 11 17:34 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitpic.com/l4q5a - My son in high spirits after removing MONO from his favorite Linux distro...Ballmer doesn't frighten him! | Oct 11 17:36 | |
DaemonFC | heh | Oct 11 17:37 |
DaemonFC | Banshee was actually one of my favorite apps | Oct 11 17:37 |
DaemonFC | maybe if they fix Last FM I'll start using it again | Oct 11 17:37 |
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DaemonFC | I like how it sorts my portable player better than Rhythmbox and how it color codes the space used and what's using the space, like different colors on the bar for music, pics, videos, etc. | Oct 11 17:39 |
DaemonFC | would be nice if someone spent a minimal amount of effort doing that in Rhythmbox | Oct 11 17:39 |
DaemonFC | Banshee does kind of half work on Windows, but it's not something you'd use yet | Oct 11 17:40 |
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DaemonFC | it's always nice when your favorite apps are cross platform | Oct 11 17:41 |
DaemonFC | I don't need to relearn my web browser to use Firefox on Windows, OS X, Linux, the BSDs, etc. | Oct 11 17:41 |
DaemonFC | why can't more apps that are supposedly FOSS be ported or cross compiled? (Sometimes that's all it takes) | Oct 11 17:41 |
DaemonFC | that was really my favorite thing about Opera back when Firefox didn't exist, Netscape was god awful, and IE was Windows only and god awful | Oct 11 17:42 |
DaemonFC | Opera worked equally well on every platform, with the same interface, I even paid the $39 to register it cause I hate having to use different apps on every system | Oct 11 17:43 |
DaemonFC | user experience is pretty uneven and shocking between Windows apps, and it seems Linux is getting more like that | Oct 11 17:44 |
DaemonFC | the fact that there are so many core utilities that people need that are maintained outside the desktop environment or with older versions of the toolkit, or maybe they violate the desktop's human interface guideline | Oct 11 17:45 |
DaemonFC | this needs to be fixed | Oct 11 17:45 |
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trmanco | :| | Oct 11 17:48 |
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trmanco | ... | Oct 11 17:49 |
_goblin | hi! | Oct 11 17:49 |
trmanco | hello | Oct 11 17:49 |
_goblin | who's slated? | Oct 11 17:49 |
_goblin | and why is freenode giving out ops? | Oct 11 17:49 |
trmanco | homer | Oct 11 17:50 |
_goblin | ah | Oct 11 17:50 |
_goblin | doh. | Oct 11 17:50 |
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_goblin | just finishing off housework for when the wife and kids return home...got loads done today. | Oct 11 17:51 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple ’s, #Microsoft ’s and the #GatesFoundation ’s Games with #IntellectualMonopolies http://ur1.ca/ddbj | Oct 11 17:52 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft , #Google , and the Impact on #FreeSoftware Revisited http://bit.ly/omtWM | Oct 11 17:52 | |
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phIRCe | Hello World! | Oct 11 17:53 |
trmanco | heh | Oct 11 17:53 |
trmanco | added some sort of module support to the bot | Oct 11 17:53 |
DaemonFC | it just seems to me that things are getting prioritized wrong in both GNOME and KDE and that features that have been desperately needed for 5+ years are taking a back seat to re-writing Pidgin (Empathy/GNOME) or implementing desktop widgets that nobody cares about or asked for | Oct 11 17:53 |
DaemonFC | there doesn't seem to be any uniform, consistent "pipeline" for new features or a "corrective action plan" for the many gaping holes | Oct 11 17:54 |
DaemonFC | on Windows and Mac these things get sorted out by "third party developers" because they're interested in making a product people will pay for or whoring out space for ads like in the many instant messengers | Oct 11 17:55 |
DaemonFC | money and the prospect for more money keeps things flowing smoothly | Oct 11 17:56 |
DaemonFC | which is why I've mentioned many times that it would be nice if GNOME or KDE put bounties on features | Oct 11 17:56 |
DaemonFC | their complaint has been not enough time or resources or developers or interest | Oct 11 17:57 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Ive dont the housework so going through the latest release of Mandriva (KDE) mmm....Will this Gnome fan be converted? #linux #foss | Oct 11 17:57 | |
DaemonFC | I bet if you put a thousand dollar bounty on getting video chat to work in Empathy across MSN, Yahoo, etc. these micro-donations would flow in and SOMEONE would implement it | Oct 11 17:58 |
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DaemonFC | right now it's some developer(s) implementing the pieces they care about personally and then they stop | Oct 11 17:59 |
DaemonFC | and FOSS is plagued with that | Oct 11 17:59 |
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DaemonFC | I just got a 32" HDTV for $200 and free shipping | Oct 11 18:08 |
DaemonFC | go me :) | Oct 11 18:09 |
DaemonFC | this should go well in the bedroom | Oct 11 18:09 |
mutex_ | Hows your health going DaemonFC ? | Oct 11 18:11 |
DaemonFC | mutex_, much better than last week, still hurts, healing a little bit every day | Oct 11 18:12 |
DaemonFC | thanks for asking :) | Oct 11 18:12 |
DaemonFC | I estimate another 10 days or so before I'm 100% | Oct 11 18:12 |
mutex_ | good to hear, | Oct 11 18:12 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to Amiga soundtracker mods....Currently playing "Enigma" from the demo of the same name... | Oct 11 18:13 | |
DaemonFC | life goes on | Oct 11 18:13 |
DaemonFC | pain happens | Oct 11 18:13 |
DaemonFC | best to remember that it will pass and to be thankful that it will | Oct 11 18:14 |
mutex_ | I KNOW, ive got austio arthritis in my spine, I know pain !! | Oct 11 18:14 |
DaemonFC | ouch | Oct 11 18:14 |
DaemonFC | my uncle was hit by a car on his bicycle on his way back from work about 8 years ago, even morphine only dulls the pain he's in every day | Oct 11 18:15 |
DaemonFC | he can walk short distances, but is a fall risk, and he will never get better | Oct 11 18:15 |
DaemonFC | every time I felt like cussing at how much pain I was in, I remembered that | Oct 11 18:16 |
DaemonFC | and that after I heal, I could have another good 50-60 years | Oct 11 18:16 |
mutex_ | yes, it suck, same with this, if you have it you have it, cant to squat about it, and im not up to morph yet, but im sure if I asked I could. I just live on Panadene fortes | Oct 11 18:16 |
mutex_ | yes, I hope so. | Oct 11 18:16 |
DaemonFC | have you tried the no mess icy hot roll on stuff? | Oct 11 18:17 |
DaemonFC | that stuff is great | Oct 11 18:17 |
DaemonFC | would assume it would help with moderate arthritis | Oct 11 18:17 |
mutex_ | no, but I sometimes use a hot water bottle on my back, so I can sit and not have to lie down | Oct 11 18:17 |
DaemonFC | there was a guy I had the misfortune to know several years ago who had arthritis at age 21 | Oct 11 18:18 |
DaemonFC | I felt sorry at first then found out he was a dumbass and that it was caused by allowing a gonorrhea infection to spread | Oct 11 18:19 |
DaemonFC | people are stupid, they wait til they are half dead from what should have been a treatable illness with no lasting effects | Oct 11 18:19 |
DaemonFC | now the damage to him is permanent | Oct 11 18:20 |
mutex_ | I expect I had it quite young as well, I just thought my back pain was sort of normal, and people here seem to think back pain is a "put on". Until I fractured a verterbrate, and got an xRay. | Oct 11 18:20 |
mutex_ | about 20 years later ! | Oct 11 18:20 |
DaemonFC | injuries that heal in your 20s that you think nothing about can resurface in your 40s and cause considerable pain | Oct 11 18:20 |
mutex_ | thats it exactly :) | Oct 11 18:21 |
mutex_ | sucks being older sometimes ! | Oct 11 18:21 |
mutex_ | 44 is not that old though | Oct 11 18:21 |
DaemonFC | body starts breaking down at 25 or so | Oct 11 18:22 |
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DaemonFC | it's like it starts a countdown to old age | Oct 11 18:22 |
DaemonFC | multibillion dollar herbs and crap to make people feel better about getting old | Oct 11 18:23 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 11 18:23 |
DaemonFC | I'm just trying to do what the doctor told me | Oct 11 18:24 |
mutex_ | thats always a good idea. (nearly always). | Oct 11 18:24 |
DaemonFC | lose about 40 pounds, get my potassium up a bit, get my cholesterol down about 10 points | Oct 11 18:24 |
DaemonFC | I'm not all that bad off | Oct 11 18:25 |
DaemonFC | 4-6 months is all that should take | Oct 11 18:25 |
DaemonFC | I'm drinking a 12 ounce glass of orange juice every day, consuming about 2000-ish calories | Oct 11 18:26 |
DaemonFC | eating potatoes :P | Oct 11 18:26 |
mutex_ | and bannas for pottasism | Oct 11 18:26 |
DaemonFC | if it takes a year at this rate to drop 55-60 pounds, then I still accomplished the goal and then some | Oct 11 18:27 |
DaemonFC | better not to starve it off, done that before and got real cranky and started biting peoples head off | Oct 11 18:27 |
DaemonFC | and then rebounded and put it all back on | Oct 11 18:27 |
mutex_ | :) if I dropped 60 pounds there would be minus left of me. :) | Oct 11 18:27 |
trmanco | anybody remember this -> http://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/2275/microsoft-server-crash-nearly-causes-800-plane-pile-up/ | Oct 11 18:30 |
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DaemonFC | mutex_, I drink that Minute Made Light orange juice | Oct 11 18:33 |
DaemonFC | they take half the sugar out and replace it with Splenda instead so it has 50 calories per 8 oz instead of 110 | Oct 11 18:34 |
DaemonFC | probably better for diabetics too | Oct 11 18:34 |
DaemonFC | tastes the same as normal orange juice, even has the pulp in it | Oct 11 18:34 |
mutex_ | thats a good idea | Oct 11 18:34 |
DaemonFC | I can't stand the no pulp stuff | Oct 11 18:34 |
DaemonFC | mutex_, Does coffee help your aches? | Oct 11 18:37 |
DaemonFC | seems to ease my joint aching | Oct 11 18:38 |
mutex_ | now I think about it, it may to a degree, I drink a fair amount of caffine | Oct 11 18:38 |
DaemonFC | excedrin has caffeine in it | Oct 11 18:39 |
mutex_ | Ill have to try that if it's availablein Aus | Oct 11 18:41 |
DaemonFC | mutex_, It's made for migraine headaches | Oct 11 18:42 |
DaemonFC | so it may say Excedrin Migraine on it | Oct 11 18:43 |
DaemonFC | don't take it with anything that has tylenol (acetaminophen) | Oct 11 18:43 |
mutex_ | if used to get those rarly as well, but thankfully not for years | Oct 11 18:44 |
DaemonFC | it has acetaminophen + some kind of caffeine, it's not normal caffeine | Oct 11 18:44 |
mutex_ | ahh ok | Oct 11 18:44 |
DaemonFC | it's formulated to be more absorbed, so two pills has 65 mg, but it hits you mire like 150-175 mg of caffeine | Oct 11 18:44 |
DaemonFC | like 2-3 cups of coffee | Oct 11 18:44 |
DaemonFC | *more | Oct 11 18:45 |
DaemonFC | they tested my vision when I went in for the EEG on Thursday, no results on EEG til tomorrow | Oct 11 18:46 |
DaemonFC | but my vision is still 20/12 | Oct 11 18:46 |
DaemonFC | at least one part of my body is an overachiever, lol | Oct 11 18:46 |
mutex_ | lol, thats good, thats another thing going downhill, couple years ago, I realised I needed glasses are well, reading and looking. | Oct 11 18:47 |
DaemonFC | my vision was 20/40 as a child | Oct 11 18:48 |
DaemonFC | I had really good vision insurance, so I wore contacts for it | Oct 11 18:48 |
mutex_ | wow, ive always had excellent vision as well, (well used to) | Oct 11 18:49 |
DaemonFC | but it got better and was 20/15 when I was 16 | Oct 11 18:49 |
DaemonFC | 20/12 by age 18 | Oct 11 18:49 |
DaemonFC | I'll be on Medicare by next May | Oct 11 18:50 |
DaemonFC | right now I don't have any insurance | Oct 11 18:50 |
DaemonFC | so they'll up my income by the annual 3-5% in January just to take it all back and maybe then some for Medicare premiums | Oct 11 18:51 |
DaemonFC | but it beats not having insurance | Oct 11 18:51 |
mutex_ | I think in that respect I would rather be in Australia, | Oct 11 18:53 |
DaemonFC | so would I | Oct 11 18:53 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 11 18:53 |
DaemonFC | I should have got to Canada while that door was open | Oct 11 18:53 |
DaemonFC | I was too afraid of leaving though | Oct 11 18:53 |
DaemonFC | I had an employer that was going to sponsor my work visa for two years in 2004 | Oct 11 18:54 |
DaemonFC | according to Canadian immigration law, I could have applied for citizenship in 2006 | Oct 11 18:55 |
DaemonFC | and I wouldn't have been in this no insurance, second class citizen bullshit now | Oct 11 18:55 |
DaemonFC | why I stayed in the United States is totally beyond me | Oct 11 18:55 |
DaemonFC | I've kicked myself enough for that though | Oct 11 18:56 |
mutex_ | yes, here you can go to hospital, spend weeks in intensive care, have major surgery, cat scans and so on, and NOT ONCE was any $$$ ever mentions. totally free. | Oct 11 18:56 |
mutex_ | and get the best care the country can deliver. | Oct 11 18:57 |
DaemonFC | here they basically pull the bullet out, slap a bandage on you, and tell you to get lost | Oct 11 18:57 |
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DaemonFC | then send you a $4,000 bill | Oct 11 18:57 |
Omar87 | Hi all. | Oct 11 18:57 |
Omar87 | Did my recent tweet appear here a moment before I showed up? | Oct 11 18:58 |
DaemonFC | I wish the Republicans would all just eat shit and die | Oct 11 18:58 |
mutex_ | no you beat it Omar | Oct 11 18:58 |
DaemonFC | they're trying to make this country beyond worth saving | Oct 11 18:58 |
Omar87 | mutex_, I beat it, really? | Oct 11 18:58 |
Omar87 | But I can't see it. | Oct 11 18:59 |
mutex_ | it has not appered yet, so im guess you beat it :) | Oct 11 18:59 |
Omar87 | Maybe it doesn't appear while I'm out of the channel..? | Oct 11 19:00 |
mutex_ | might be | Oct 11 19:00 |
Omar87 | I'll retweet it. Just a sec. | Oct 11 19:00 |
DaemonFC | I don't think that the majority of Americans are bad, the actions of the Republicans, the more reprehensible ones, never have more than 25-30% of public support | Oct 11 19:01 |
DaemonFC | the way the electoral system works here gives them an undue influence over our political system | Oct 11 19:01 |
DaemonFC | enough of one to stifle progress even when they're outnumbered 60/40 in the senate, 2 to 1 in the house, and the President is a Democrat | Oct 11 19:02 |
DaemonFC | I wish we could just have a fire sale on all of them, every one of them must go | Oct 11 19:03 |
schestowitz | _goblin: nice. you try kde4... | Oct 11 19:03 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Seriously, #FSDaily should put more effort in monitoring the #ads that appear on the website. http://bit.ly/11cGy8 | Oct 11 19:04 | |
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DaemonFC | a lot of FOSS related sites are getting hit with Windows 7 ads | Oct 11 19:04 |
DaemonFC | it's kind of comical | Oct 11 19:05 |
_goblin | yeah, giving KDE the treatment. | Oct 11 19:06 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, the even more comical thing is that most of the ads I saw on FSDaily don't even mention Vista 7. | Oct 11 19:07 |
Omar87 | http://bit.ly/173ZC3 | Oct 11 19:07 |
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schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8299951.stm | Oct 11 19:10 |
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schestowitz | "YouTube now gets over a billion hits a day, according to a new video blog post by the founder of the website." | Oct 11 19:10 |
schestowitz | http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/does-your-tech-closet-need-a-clean-out-comptia-thinks-so/?cs=36549 | Oct 11 19:13 |
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schestowitz | When not lobbying for ms | Oct 11 19:13 |
schestowitz | Omar87: good post | Oct 11 19:23 |
schestowitz | But it's not their fault | Oct 11 19:23 |
schestowitz | They can't choose ads | Oct 11 19:23 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Its our news…pay up! – Murdoch’s rant? http://tinyurl.com/ygr7bwa #rant #times #blogging | Oct 11 19:27 | |
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trmanco | http://www.robweir.com/blog/2009/10/final-ooxml-update-part-i.html | Oct 11 19:29 |
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Omar87 | schestowitz, I know. | Oct 11 19:31 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, but there should be something that can be done to stop this bad phenomenon. | Oct 11 19:32 |
mutex_ | I think it's regional as well Omar, I do not see the add you are talking about from here in Aus | Oct 11 19:33 |
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Omar87 | mutex_, yeah, it could be. | Oct 11 19:35 |
schestowitz | _goblin: Old News are f* | Oct 11 19:40 |
schestowitz | They won't manage to tame the Internet | Oct 11 19:40 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, can't they, for example, dump Google ads and increase their Ad Bard ads? | Oct 11 19:40 |
schestowitz | That's what we did | Oct 11 19:40 |
schestowitz | I'll pass all the revenue to tessier | Oct 11 19:41 |
schestowitz | It's not much | Oct 11 19:41 |
Omar87 | Not much? | Oct 11 19:41 |
schestowitz | Hosting is more expensive | Oct 11 19:41 |
schestowitz | Omar87: about $20/month | Oct 11 19:41 |
Omar87 | Oh my God, that's nothing. | Oct 11 19:42 |
Omar87 | Also, if we take under conideration that they have a dedicated server, the picture would get even worse. | Oct 11 19:43 |
schestowitz | http://www.mediafax.ro/engleza/romania-s-constitutional-court-rules-data-storage-law-unconstitutional-4972690 | Oct 11 19:44 |
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schestowitz | Omar87: tessier donates space to us. It's very kind of him | Oct 11 19:44 |
schestowitz | All that comes in will go to him | Oct 11 19:44 |
DaemonFC | Halo 3 must be bandwidth hog | Oct 11 19:45 |
schestowitz | http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2009/10/essex-police-in-dna-foi-dodge.html | Oct 11 19:45 |
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DaemonFC | my brother is playing it and my bandwidth went from 1.2 MB/sec to like 50 KB/sec | Oct 11 19:45 |
DaemonFC | that game is pissing me off | Oct 11 19:46 |
DaemonFC | it's using all of the bandwidth which is just crazy | Oct 11 19:46 |
schestowitz | http://www.france-info.com/france-politique-2009-10-11-rachida-dati-lobbyiste-354416-9-10.html | Oct 11 19:46 |
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mutex_ | should get him onto WoW, it's quite good on bandwidth. | Oct 11 19:47 |
DaemonFC | there's no reason Halo 3 should need that much | Oct 11 19:48 |
DaemonFC | no other game does | Oct 11 19:48 |
mutex_ | thats right | Oct 11 19:48 |
mutex_ | you can play wow on a dialup, !! with quite good latency | Oct 11 19:48 |
DaemonFC | Sauerbraten will run quite well even with minimal bandwidth | Oct 11 19:49 |
*schestowitz programs in MATLAB for a while | Oct 11 19:49 | |
DaemonFC | it's smart about what it needs to transmit and receive | Oct 11 19:49 |
schestowitz | [proprietary framework] *shudder* | Oct 11 19:49 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, Okay, although I was just talking about dumping Google adsense, I have it on my own blog since neither Ad Bard nor any other Ads service would accept my website, yet, | Oct 11 19:53 |
DaemonFC | gawd, QVC is taking their sweet time to ship that computer | Oct 11 19:54 |
DaemonFC | I ordered it on the 7th and it won't be here til the 19th | Oct 11 19:54 |
Omar87 | And, I'm feeling it's very useless. LIke a dream that'll never come true, to actually paid from it. | Oct 11 19:54 |
DaemonFC | I asked them if they were shipping it here cross country by horse and buggy | Oct 11 19:55 |
Omar87 | to actually *get* paid from it. | Oct 11 19:55 |
schestowitz | Very few do | Oct 11 20:00 |
schestowitz | Maybe the top 0.1% | Oct 11 20:00 |
schestowitz | It's like in the music industry | Oct 11 20:00 |
schestowitz | I never made money from running sites | Oct 11 20:01 |
schestowitz | Just building sites for others | Oct 11 20:01 |
schestowitz | http://crankyoldnutcase.blogspot.com/2009/10/astroturf-in-climate-change-discussion.html | Oct 11 20:05 |
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schestowitz | ^^ this is our amicus from BN | Oct 11 20:05 |
schestowitz | He's fighting the good fight | Oct 11 20:05 |
schestowitz | Not all that we should do it to be driven by profit motive, Omar87. It leads to wear in the environment and erosion of social harmony if driven to /boundless/ extent | Oct 11 20:06 |
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schestowitz | Y,000,000,000uTube http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2009/10/y000000000utube.html | Oct 11 20:13 |
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schestowitz | If only they had Oggs like a few others | Oct 11 20:13 |
schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091008/0252066460.shtml | Oct 11 20:13 |
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schestowitz | http://blog.foolsmountain.com/2009/10/08/what-lies-between-chinese-writers-and-the-nobel-prize/ | Oct 11 20:15 |
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schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/08/argos-ebay-desert-royal-mail | Oct 11 20:15 |
schestowitz | "Argos joined a growing band of retailers making plans to desert Royal Mail today as the Communication Workers Union voted overwhelmingly in favour of a national strike over proposed changes to working conditions." | Oct 11 20:15 |
schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-rupert-murdoch-in-beijing-the-philistine-phase-of-the-digital-age-is-al/ | Oct 11 20:22 |
schestowitz | Rupert Murdoch In Beijing: ‘The Philistine Phase Of The Digital Age Is Almost Over’ | Oct 11 20:23 |
schestowitz | http://blogscript.blogspot.com/2009/10/new-uk-internet-libel-case-coming.html | Oct 11 20:23 |
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schestowitz | Omar87: Tony Blair branded 'war criminal' after Iraq memorial service < http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/09/rowan-williams-iraq-war-memorial > | Oct 11 20:24 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A friend of mine, a #GNOME user, is trying #kde4 now. It's a wonderful DE. | Oct 11 20:30 | |
schestowitz | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1295 | Oct 11 20:30 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Multi-tasking ahoy! One machine testing Mandriva, another I'm writing an article on +keeping an eye on #microsoft on a Netbook w/Puppy Linux | Oct 11 20:36 | |
schestowitz | http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-searchengine-showdown-1800591.html shilling for Murdoch | Oct 11 20:37 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Tomorrow I'm hoping to be installing Linux on a collegues machine. He's a Linux newbie who was amazed with Linux Mint! | Oct 11 20:37 | |
DaemonFC | just got done with my stretching exercises | Oct 11 20:39 |
DaemonFC | have to do them every 5-6 hours or my arms try to tense up again | Oct 11 20:40 |
DaemonFC | they're getting better though | Oct 11 20:40 |
schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/10/t-mobile_outlook_grim_for_sidekick_data_after_microsoft_server_failure.html?ana=from_rss | Oct 11 20:40 |
phIRCe | Title: Outlook grim for Sidekick data after Microsoft server failure .::. Size~: 44.55 KB | Oct 11 20:40 |
schestowitz | "Regrettably, based on Microsoft/Danger's latest recovery assessment of their systems, we must now inform you that personal information stored on your device - such as contacts, calendar entries, to-do lists or photos - that is no longer on your Sidekick almost certainly has been lost as a result of a server failure at Microsoft/Danger," says T-Mobile in a statement posted in its user forums. | Oct 11 20:40 |
schestowitz | Oh gawd... photos, contacts.... | Oct 11 20:40 |
schestowitz | People don't have their work notes, pictures with the g/f, everything! | Oct 11 20:40 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, I made sure that I wouldn't get stuck with Vista on this new system | Oct 11 20:40 |
DaemonFC | it comes with it but I'll only need to put up with it for about 2-3 weeks | Oct 11 20:41 |
DaemonFC | speaking of failures that is | Oct 11 20:41 |
schestowitz | Vista was a success. [for Linux] | Oct 11 20:41 |
DaemonFC | as for the rumors of the 5-6 hour upgrade process, I've never had that happen | Oct 11 20:42 |
DaemonFC | the longest upgrade I've ever had was about an hour | Oct 11 20:42 |
DaemonFC | that was from 98 to Me | Oct 11 20:42 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft usually does promo upgrades if you buy it right away | Oct 11 20:42 |
DaemonFC | 98 to Me was $20 | Oct 11 20:43 |
schestowitz | It's not an upgrade | Oct 11 20:43 |
trmanco | it takes about 1:30 mins to completely install a SP | Oct 11 20:43 |
schestowitz | ME->98 SE is an upgrad | Oct 11 20:43 |
trmanco | 1h and 30 mins* | Oct 11 20:43 |
DaemonFC | trmanco, service packs take longer than an in place upgrade to a new version of Windows | Oct 11 20:44 |
DaemonFC | I don't know why, but they do | Oct 11 20:44 |
DaemonFC | I'm always on the latest service pack | Oct 11 20:44 |
mutex_ | so are you going to get your 13 patches, on Tues 13th, at 13:13:13 ? | Oct 11 20:45 |
DaemonFC | old installations of XP tend to get cranky when you try to put a service pack on them | Oct 11 20:45 |
DaemonFC | I had to spend hours cleaning up my neighbor's copy of XP before I could apply SP3, IE 8, and WMP 11 | Oct 11 20:45 |
DaemonFC | mutex_, considering that my desktop is not operational and my new one won't be here til the 19th? | Oct 11 20:46 |
DaemonFC | motherboard failure, again | Oct 11 20:46 |
mutex_ | minor issues | Oct 11 20:46 |
DaemonFC | damned Intel motherboards | Oct 11 20:46 |
DaemonFC | unreliable junk | Oct 11 20:46 |
DaemonFC | mad at myself for trying to go back to Intel last year | Oct 11 20:46 |
trmanco | lol | Oct 11 20:47 |
DaemonFC | I'm not touching anything made by Intel or Nvidia this time | Oct 11 20:47 |
DaemonFC | it's all AMD | Oct 11 20:47 |
DaemonFC | I'm seriously pissed off at Intel and Nvidia for a number of reasons and I won't be buying anything from them again | Oct 11 20:48 |
DaemonFC | I don't expect Nvidia's board of directors will be making a public apology for their Prop 8 support | Oct 11 20:49 |
DaemonFC | so good riddance to them too | Oct 11 20:49 |
DaemonFC | I'd rather not buy another computer if my only choice was Intel/Nvidia parts | Oct 11 20:50 |
DaemonFC | I'm at least 50 times angrier at them than Microsoft | Oct 11 20:51 |
DaemonFC | in my book, they're much worse | Oct 11 20:51 |
DaemonFC | all of them are unscrupulous though | Oct 11 20:51 |
DaemonFC | Intel was funny because they conspired to sell junk hardware that wasn't good enough to run Vista and then didn't even use Vista themselves, they stayed on XP | Oct 11 20:52 |
schestowitz | Mine is AMD | Oct 11 20:57 |
schestowitz | Intel is a criminal company. A lot of people haven't paid attention though (to antirust worldwide) | Oct 11 20:57 |
schestowitz | Gotta do something else for a little while... | Oct 11 20:58 |
schestowitz | Hope you can hang around in IRC sometimes. :-) | Oct 11 20:58 |
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schestowitz | BTW, get well soon. I didn't mean to ignore it before, I just didn't pay attention when you came in to say something about it | Oct 11 20:58 |
schestowitz | By the time I saw it you had left | Oct 11 20:58 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, thanks | Oct 11 21:01 |
DaemonFC | heh, yeah, I'm just starting to feel like myself at least most of the day again | Oct 11 21:02 |
DaemonFC | bruises are continuing to turn green and then fade back to flesh color | Oct 11 21:02 |
DaemonFC | it'd be nice if they could just go away, I'm sick of looking at them | Oct 11 21:03 |
DaemonFC | I probably should have been in the hospital for at least 2-3 days, but they were eager to ditch me since I wasn't a profitable patient with lots of insurance | Oct 11 21:04 |
DaemonFC | luckily, my mom is a nurse | Oct 11 21:04 |
DaemonFC | I think I'm going to write a letter to the newspaper about this whole ordeal | Oct 11 21:05 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A friend of mine, a #GNOME user, is trying #kde4 now. It's a wonderful DE. | Oct 11 21:08 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, I wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper | Oct 11 21:17 |
DaemonFC | http://pastebin.com/m594b87fd | Oct 11 21:17 |
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pfpdsfog | my For Follow UP folder is not showing any flaged emails on MS Outlook2003 -> can anyone advice please? | Oct 11 21:37 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: "until" -> "til"? | Oct 11 21:38 |
DaemonFC | ? | Oct 11 21:39 |
DaemonFC | yeah, common contraction | Oct 11 21:39 |
DaemonFC | :P | Oct 11 21:39 |
pfpdsfog | schestowitz: wow you're funny | Oct 11 21:39 |
schestowitz | "@glynmoody The problem is not The Independent; they just suffer from the same phenomenon as Murdoch" | Oct 11 21:40 |
pfpdsfog | schestowitz: how about you start using your tallents the right way? | Oct 11 21:40 |
schestowitz | "@glynmoody it's independent... of the public :-)" | Oct 11 21:40 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: not "till"? | Oct 11 21:41 |
schestowitz | I guess it depends | Oct 11 21:41 |
schestowitz | http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-unt1.htm | Oct 11 21:41 |
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schestowitz | You'd need a apostrophe | Oct 11 21:41 |
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DaemonFC | pick pick pick | Oct 11 21:41 |
DaemonFC | :P | Oct 11 21:41 |
schestowitz | pfpdsfog: what's the matter? | Oct 11 21:41 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: well, newspaper you said, so... | Oct 11 21:42 |
DaemonFC | yeah, whoops | Oct 11 21:42 |
DaemonFC | 75% of this county votes Republican, I doubt they'll get hung up more over the apostrophe than the contents of that letter | Oct 11 21:43 |
DaemonFC | they're voting Republican and poor | Oct 11 21:43 |
DaemonFC | stupid people that are easily tricked | Oct 11 21:43 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Campaigners to try and get Saw VI banned? Well done folks, you've now guaranteed its going to be a hit. | Oct 11 21:55 | |
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now3d | Hi Roy | Oct 11 22:17 |
now3d | BTW, the animated favicon gets iritating after a while.. | Oct 11 22:17 |
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schestowitz | http://www.itrunsonlinux.com/news/114-wine-1131-released | Oct 11 22:19 |
schestowitz | hey, now3d | Oct 11 22:19 |
Python1320 | oh come on | Oct 11 22:19 |
Python1320 | I just compiled 30 from source | Oct 11 22:19 |
Python1320 | like 5 days ago | Oct 11 22:20 |
schestowitz | heh. | Oct 11 22:20 |
schestowitz | gentoo? | Oct 11 22:20 |
Python1320 | nah, I need to apply a custom modification to wine | Oct 11 22:20 |
schestowitz | now3d: we changed that icon some years back so that it stops cycling after a couple of times | Oct 11 22:20 |
schestowitz | Same in schestowitz.com | Oct 11 22:20 |
now3d | Ah ok, that is good ;) btw I am Jon Grant | Oct 11 22:21 |
schestowitz | What's wine useful for, Python1320, in your case? | Oct 11 22:21 |
now3d | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/themes/ocadia/style.css I see "header" and: font-size: 0.75em; Is that the one that would need to be increased? | Oct 11 22:21 |
schestowitz | BTW, do the apps that run Linux gadgets like TomTom operate under wine? | Oct 11 22:21 |
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Python1320 | schestowitz, I am running a gameserver which has only windows binaries on debian. | Oct 11 22:21 |
Python1320 | I apply a modification to wine to let the application run without X | Oct 11 22:22 |
schestowitz | now3d: I do ctrl++ or whatever to zoom in | Oct 11 22:22 |
now3d | chanting it to be 100% would make it regular size I think | Oct 11 22:22 |
schestowitz | If the text needs size change | Oct 11 22:22 |
now3d | yeah.. i did that.. that's the good workaround | Oct 11 22:22 |
schestowitz | Nobody is ever 100% happy | Oct 11 22:22 |
schestowitz | But... | Oct 11 22:22 |
Python1320 | I basically stub the AllocConsole function and make it return always TRUE. | Oct 11 22:22 |
schestowitz | Maybe we should have alternative css | Oct 11 22:22 |
schestowitz | It's tricky | Oct 11 22:22 |
schestowitz | Cause some of the styles are embedded in the page | Oct 11 22:22 |
schestowitz | It's not elegantly written | Oct 11 22:22 |
now3d | yeah.. would be nice if you could adjust a few places.. | Oct 11 22:24 |
Python1320 | Worms 2 demo crashes on startup <- So now they can launch the game to ... the menu? What's next, clicking menu buttons? Yes, I am not too optimistic anymore :) | Oct 11 22:24 |
now3d | the text in the links is pretty small too.. | Oct 11 22:24 |
now3d | i'm running Firefox on Ubuntu | Oct 11 22:24 |
schestowitz | Gary Edwards is still around..... http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-12688-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=69439&messageID=1327593 | Oct 11 22:26 |
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schestowitz | now3d: couldn't find the plugin | Oct 11 22:26 |
schestowitz | I asked around in some irc channels too | Oct 11 22:26 |
schestowitz | WordPress offers this fucntion as a plugin to admins only | Oct 11 22:26 |
schestowitz | Or to register visitors only | Oct 11 22:26 |
schestowitz | *tered | Oct 11 22:26 |
schestowitz | Ottherwise, other than cookie, it can't keep track of who want which stylesheet | Oct 11 22:27 |
schestowitz | Same with Groklaw | Oct 11 22:27 |
schestowitz | Registered users can use alternative styles, which I do | Oct 11 22:27 |
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now3d | how about going for similar text sizes to news.bbc.co.uk ? | Oct 11 22:30 |
sebsebseb | hi | Oct 11 22:30 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=25725 | Oct 11 22:33 |
schestowitz | now3d: I can't by default | Oct 11 22:34 |
schestowitz | It would mess up some pages | Oct 11 22:34 |
schestowitz | I wish I could apply one CSS to new pages only | Oct 11 22:35 |
schestowitz | It doesn't work that way in practice | Oct 11 22:35 |
schestowitz | A lot of new pages appear in the Wiki where moonbook is use | Oct 11 22:35 |
schestowitz | *used | Oct 11 22:35 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/173364/ellison_mocks_salesforcecoms_itty_bitty_application.html | Oct 11 22:36 |
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schestowitz | !google css zen garden | Oct 11 22:36 |
phIRCe | [1] - css Zen Garden: The Beauty in CSS Design | http://www.csszengarden.com/ | Oct 11 22:36 |
phIRCe | [2] - mezzoblue § css Zen Garden Design List | http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/alldesigns/ | Oct 11 22:36 |
phIRCe | [3] - mezzoblue § css Zen Garden Resources | http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/resources/ | Oct 11 22:36 |
phIRCe | [4] - CSS Zen Garden - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS_Zen_Garden | Oct 11 22:36 |
now3d | ok, thanks | Oct 11 22:40 |
now3d | off to sleep now byte | Oct 11 22:40 |
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schestowitz | I didn't implement this properly | Oct 11 22:40 |
schestowitz | Had I kept all styling in the CSS, it would be simple to swap | Oct 11 22:41 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Microsoft renders Sidekick data completely secure http://is.gd/4enuM | Oct 11 22:41 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard NotN: Microsoft renders Sidekick data completely secure http://is.gd/4enuM [satire] | Oct 11 22:44 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Hello everybody =) | Oct 11 22:46 | |
trmanco | how as phIRCe behaved? I've AFK for a while | Oct 11 22:47 |
trmanco | http://identi.ca/notice/11827712 | Oct 11 22:49 |
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trmanco | the bot is sexist | Oct 11 22:49 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz i was most pleased to remember i had the "sad toilet in snow" image for that article | Oct 11 22:51 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] RBS ATM’s Use Windows | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/yzddszd | Oct 11 22:55 | |
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ThistleWeb | lol, my tweets come through eventually | Oct 11 22:59 |
ThistleWeb | another one on the way too lol 2 posts in one night | Oct 11 22:59 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard Vista works well on that 'machine' | Oct 11 22:59 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Goodbye MS Works? Hello MS Office starter with adverts...LOL...Microsoft's cashcow running dry? #office #microsoft #windows | Oct 11 23:07 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @schestowitz the ultimate vista-ready machine is of course: http://bit.ly/43nATd | Oct 11 23:08 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin i eagerly await a CRITICAL SECURITY UPDATE to XP of Windows Genuine Advertising | Oct 11 23:12 | |
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trmanco | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Bespin?content=63928 | Oct 11 23:16 |
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schestowitz | This whole 'open core' thing is a disease. http://linuxmednews.com/1254623223 | Oct 11 23:29 |
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schestowitz | trmanco: "Please consider this code as experimental." | Oct 11 23:30 |
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schestowitz | http://celettu.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/kde-4-3-boom-baby/ | Oct 11 23:31 |
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schestowitz | "Stability has gradually improved to the point where I no longer have any problems at all. KDE boots fast and without issue. Applications don’t crash, except for the printer applet after one update, which was immediately remedied in the next. Kwin effects are fast and leave no artifacts. KDE 4 is stable." | Oct 11 23:32 |
trmanco | oh artifacts | Oct 11 23:32 |
trmanco | Gnome (Compiz) had them | Oct 11 23:33 |
schestowitz | http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-kde-4-3-2-on-ubuntu-jaunty.html | Oct 11 23:33 |
phIRCe | Title: Howto Install KDE 4.3.2 on ubuntu Jaunty | Ubuntu Geek .::. Size~: 37.13 KB | Oct 11 23:33 |
schestowitz | _goblin is trying kde 4.3.2 | Oct 11 23:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.ghacks.net/2009/10/10/linux-back-in-time-backup-made-easy/ | Oct 11 23:34 |
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schestowitz | http://digitizor.com/2009/10/11/developers-plans-to-break-gtk-3-0-api/ | Oct 11 23:46 |
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schestowitz | o_0 | Oct 11 23:46 |
schestowitz | "In a way this approach seems like what the KDE developers did with KDE 4.0 and the Amarok developers with Amarok 2.0. Both of them were criticized for this approach initially but both has now developed solid product over it. The same is likely to happen with GTK 3.0 is they go ahead with this plan. However, in the long run they can really end up developing a great application, even though it may cause some inconvinience at | Oct 11 23:46 |
schestowitz | initially." | Oct 11 23:46 |
trmanco | well, that's how it usually goes | Oct 11 23:47 |
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trmanco | it's for the better | Oct 11 23:47 |
schestowitz | http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/10/conan-obrien-talks-to-the-co-creator-of-usb-on-the-tonight-show/ | Oct 11 23:48 |
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schestowitz | trmanco: windows32 also | Oct 11 23:48 |
schestowitz | Ask wine about deprecated APIs and stuff :-D | Oct 11 23:48 |
schestowitz | .NET arguably too, but I'm not familiar with it | Oct 11 23:49 |
*schestowitz never programmed on dotnot | Oct 11 23:49 | |
*schestowitz programs in MATLAB today (no choice) | Oct 11 23:49 | |
trmanco | yeah | Oct 11 23:49 |
trmanco | I've programmed in .NET | Oct 11 23:49 |
schestowitz | http://aldeby.org/blog/index.php/vmware-workstation-6-5-3-on-ubuntu-karmic-9-10.html | Oct 11 23:49 |
phIRCe | Title: VMware Workstation 6.5.3 on Ubuntu Karmic 9.10 | Nobody was Born with Linux Knowledge .::. Size~: 33.03 KB | Oct 11 23:49 |
trmanco | VB.NET to be more precise | Oct 11 23:49 |
cubezzz | booo | Oct 11 23:50 |
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trmanco | it kinda stinks when you have to wait 30 seconds just for a simple program to load :| | Oct 11 23:50 |
schestowitz | Hhee. | Oct 11 23:50 |
schestowitz | David: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjB1XzayjtA | Oct 11 23:50 |
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cubezzz | I've been looking at the gnu projects | Oct 11 23:50 |
cubezzz | may start a new one | Oct 11 23:51 |
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trmanco | what are you thinking about doing? | Oct 11 23:53 |
trmanco | GNU is in need of a facebook replacement | Oct 11 23:53 |
schestowitz | HURD | Oct 11 23:54 |
schestowitz | 2.0 | Oct 11 23:54 |
cubezzz | still thinking about it | Oct 11 23:54 |
schestowitz | Ultimate Pack | Oct 11 23:54 |
cubezzz | no, not HURD :) | Oct 11 23:54 |
cubezzz | I'm not that brave | Oct 11 23:54 |
schestowitz | But there'll be launch parties for it | Oct 11 23:54 |
schestowitz | GNU CDs and napkins | Oct 11 23:54 |
trmanco | http://daisycha.in/ | Oct 11 23:54 |
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trmanco | oh | Oct 11 23:54 |
cubezzz | well I can do the GNU thing without HURD :) | Oct 11 23:54 |
trmanco | they have already started it | Oct 11 23:55 |
schestowitz | "daisychain is a project of FooCorp released under the GNU AGPL version 3.0" | Oct 11 23:55 |
schestowitz | Neat | Oct 11 23:55 |
cubezzz | there's no ics text client in gnu | Oct 11 23:55 |
trmanco | let's take a peak | Oct 11 23:55 |
cubezzz | lately I've been working on porting coreutils | Oct 11 23:56 |
schestowitz | *peek | Oct 11 23:56 |
trmanco | yeah | Oct 11 23:58 |
trmanco | oops | Oct 11 23:58 |
trmanco | porting it to what? | Oct 11 23:58 |
cubezzz | sl-5500 | Oct 11 23:59 |
cubezzz | rather than using busybox | Oct 11 23:59 |
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