schestowitz | !google oiaohm | Oct 27 00:00 |
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schestowitz | I installed curl | Oct 27 00:00 |
_goblin | I agree about the testers giving favorable reports, that seems quite plausable, but then not to know how bad Vista really was...I think it was a case that the realization came after the point of no return. I believe MS released Vista knowing fully how bad it was but knew that lockin and MS dependency would make a return and they could always say "it will be better next time" | Oct 27 00:00 |
schestowitz | I guess i need the php 'version'/wrapper | Oct 27 00:00 |
schestowitz | http://php.net/manual/en/function.curl-init.php | Oct 27 00:01 |
_goblin | maybe the best example of why the software proprietary model is so wrong in respect of your OS. | Oct 27 00:01 |
oiaohm | _goblin: vista also was late _goblin | Oct 27 00:01 |
oiaohm | So developers were rushing to complete stuff. | Oct 27 00:01 |
_goblin | yeah...i know, maybe to patch up the most serious of issues for at least basic functionality.... | Oct 27 00:01 |
oiaohm | Lot of code poor users got never had been before the beta testers either. | Oct 27 00:01 |
_goblin | I suffered with Vista for 1 month.... :( | Oct 27 00:02 |
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oiaohm | and the nice result of that is broken massively. | Oct 27 00:02 |
oiaohm | Note the beta testers never had UAC _goblin | Oct 27 00:02 |
oiaohm | It was added in the end of the release cycle. | Oct 27 00:02 |
_goblin | already looking at Windows 7 issues, the cracks are begining to show... | Oct 27 00:02 |
oiaohm | You agree UAC was the worse feature of Vista. | Oct 27 00:03 |
_goblin | and was UAC as much of a problem as simply not being compatible or stable and being incredibly slow and bloated? | Oct 27 00:03 |
_goblin | in respect of those Vista issues I think UAC was a moot point. | Oct 27 00:03 |
oiaohm | Basically Vista was very poorly tested. | Oct 27 00:03 |
_goblin | agreed. | Oct 27 00:03 |
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oiaohm | And poorly tested means you have no clue how good OS will be. | Oct 27 00:03 |
_goblin | but then anyone who's used it will know, you don't have to test it for its problems to show...I saw them on day one. | Oct 27 00:04 |
oiaohm | you are taking a huge leap of faith. | Oct 27 00:04 |
oiaohm | Vista was pure incompetence in the development system. | Oct 27 00:04 |
schestowitz |  | Oct 27 00:05 |
oiaohm | Lot of the open source projects are adding larger and large test suites to prevent a vista like mess. | Oct 27 00:05 |
schestowitz | [00:02] <_goblin> already looking at Windows 7 issues, the cracks are begining to show... | Oct 27 00:05 |
schestowitz | _goblin: post about v7 coming tomorrow | Oct 27 00:05 |
schestowitz | Many pushbacks start showing | Oct 27 00:05 |
schestowitz | In blogs | Oct 27 00:05 |
oiaohm | Its like the MS file and printer sharing _goblin | Oct 27 00:05 |
_goblin | and I am wondering if that was not partially intentional....Microsoft didn't count on OS competition so released a half assed OS in order to milk more money three years later..... | Oct 27 00:05 |
oiaohm | Samba was giving the internal docs MS used. | Oct 27 00:06 |
schestowitz | People see no reason to leave XP | Oct 27 00:06 |
schestowitz | Only to run XP via VIsta7 | Oct 27 00:06 |
schestowitz | Why? | Oct 27 00:06 |
oiaohm | Turned out MS protocal impleneation did not match. | Oct 27 00:06 |
schestowitz | To run programs | Oct 27 00:06 |
schestowitz | Vista 7 has compat issue | Oct 27 00:06 |
_goblin | without DX (if we are talking XPM) | Oct 27 00:06 |
schestowitz | And no real advantages | Oct 27 00:06 |
oiaohm | So samba developers accused MS of creating fake documents _goblin | Oct 27 00:06 |
oiaohm | Turned out MS did not even have a test suite. | Oct 27 00:06 |
schestowitz | _goblin: yes, many games won't work | Oct 27 00:06 |
schestowitz | WIth or without xpm | Oct 27 00:06 |
oiaohm | Testing was just plug into network with other windows machines do a few basic tests if it worked it was fine _goblin | Oct 27 00:07 |
schestowitz | I enjoy seeing reviews | Oct 27 00:07 |
schestowitz | Versus Microsoft PR | Oct 27 00:07 |
_goblin | As I always say if you want a new OS with XP compat, consider linux/wine....its a better choice than 7/xpm | Oct 27 00:07 |
schestowitz | Haha. | Oct 27 00:07 |
schestowitz | http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/226367/new-microsoft-rp-chief-we-won-t-get-distracted | Oct 27 00:07 |
schestowitz | "John Bessey, new managing director of Microsoft Philippines, said the threat of Linux and other emerging market trends such as cloud computing are not likely to affect the stature of the company as long as consumers and businesses derive value from its products and services." | Oct 27 00:07 |
oiaohm | Does that explain where the strange issue from windows networking came from _goblin | Oct 27 00:07 |
schestowitz | PR people | Oct 27 00:07 |
schestowitz | How about hiring developers? | Oct 27 00:07 |
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schestowitz | _goblin: yes, but a lot of people don't know about Linux/VB | Oct 27 00:08 |
_goblin | I only experienced Vista@home.....even at work we have just upgraded to XP. | Oct 27 00:08 |
schestowitz | VirtualBox is good too | Oct 27 00:08 |
schestowitz | If they have a WIndows licence | Oct 27 00:08 |
cubezzz | bah | Oct 27 00:08 |
schestowitz | If not, then wine the buggers (binaries) | Oct 27 00:08 |
oiaohm | There last PR lead quit schestowitz | Oct 27 00:08 |
schestowitz | Yes | Oct 27 00:08 |
schestowitz | Several of them | Oct 27 00:08 |
schestowitz | Also the main Vista PR staff | Oct 27 00:09 |
oiaohm | Anyone want to lay bets how long this one lasts. schestowitz | Oct 27 00:09 |
schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207001276 | Oct 27 00:09 |
oiaohm | Churn in PR staff is a sign of a major problem. | Oct 27 00:09 |
schestowitz | Microsoft's Vista Blogger Quits As Redmond Exodus Builds | Oct 27 00:09 |
schestowitz | "Nick White, Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT)'s in-house blogger who wrote about all things related to the Windows Vista operating system, has resigned. It's the latest in a series of key departures from the s" | Oct 27 00:09 |
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schestowitz | ANd: | Oct 27 00:10 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1158 | Oct 27 00:10 |
schestowitz | Vista marketing chief to bid Microsoft adieu | Oct 27 00:10 |
oiaohm | Good PR staff stay around for a long time and build up key releationship to get information out. | Oct 27 00:10 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: I'd rather not link to the MB aritlce | Oct 27 00:10 |
schestowitz | It's like a Microsoft ad | Oct 27 00:10 |
schestowitz | But it's good to know many jumop shop | Oct 27 00:10 |
schestowitz | That's Manilla | Oct 27 00:10 |
schestowitz | Philippines | Oct 27 00:10 |
schestowitz | They lost their COuntry manager | Oct 27 00:11 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/14/ms-bad-in-china-philippines/ | Oct 27 00:11 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/11/24/microsoft-bad-in-philippines/ | Oct 27 00:11 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/02/02/philippines-spark-tobacco-lockin/ | Oct 27 00:12 |
schestowitz | Head of Microsoft Philippines Ditches the Company, More Layoffs Revealed (But Microsoft Withholds Details) http://boycottnovell.com/2009/05/31/more-msft-nz-layoffs-revealed/ | Oct 27 00:12 |
schestowitz | It figures | Oct 27 00:12 |
schestowitz | They don't buy from Microsoft | Oct 27 00:12 |
schestowitz | They countereit | Oct 27 00:12 |
schestowitz | And use FOSS, so Microsoft brings *Spark (dumping) | Oct 27 00:13 |
schestowitz | Or EDGI+variants | Oct 27 00:13 |
schestowitz | *counterfeit | Oct 27 00:13 |
oiaohm | There is only so long that MS can keep firing staff. | Oct 27 00:13 |
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oiaohm | R&D expendutre droping is a worry. | Oct 27 00:14 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Everyone in this apartment, but me, is infected now | Oct 27 00:14 |
DaemonFC | 2009 A/H1N1 | Oct 27 00:14 |
oiaohm | Great | Oct 27 00:14 |
DaemonFC | I'm not exagerrating either, not at all | Oct 27 00:14 |
DaemonFC | EVERY single person except me is infected | Oct 27 00:14 |
oiaohm | So if you drop off face of earth we know what has happened DaemonFC | Oct 27 00:14 |
DaemonFC | oiaohm, I took the vaccine | Oct 27 00:15 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: SARS? | Oct 27 00:15 |
DaemonFC | and I've been washing my hands like every time I touch something | Oct 27 00:15 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, influenza | Oct 27 00:15 |
DaemonFC | even the baby downstairs has it | Oct 27 00:15 |
DaemonFC | won't stop crying | Oct 27 00:15 |
oiaohm | You could be a carrer DaemonFC | Oct 27 00:15 |
DaemonFC | this is bad | Oct 27 00:15 |
schestowitz | wear a mask | Oct 27 00:15 |
DaemonFC | oiaohm, Unlikely | Oct 27 00:15 |
DaemonFC | I took the vaccine | Oct 27 00:16 |
schestowitz | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resources/2007/10/creepyjackomask.jpg | Oct 27 00:16 |
DaemonFC | I'm betting nobody else that lives here did | Oct 27 00:16 |
DaemonFC | now they all have to flu and I don't | Oct 27 00:16 |
oiaohm | the H1N1 vaccine can block you from getting sick with it. | Oct 27 00:16 |
DaemonFC | who's the idiot now? | Oct 27 00:16 |
oiaohm | Let leave you a carrior DaemonFC | Oct 27 00:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/13-michael-jackson-mask-WI-062609-lg-57241461.jpg | Oct 27 00:16 |
DaemonFC | *to=the | Oct 27 00:16 |
DaemonFC | oiaohm, Mask won't stop it | Oct 27 00:17 |
DaemonFC | CDC says so | Oct 27 00:17 |
oiaohm | Its not airborn. | Oct 27 00:17 |
oiaohm | Marks is pointless. | Oct 27 00:17 |
DaemonFC | I hosed down the hallway with Lysol just now | Oct 27 00:17 |
oiaohm | That was very fast to work out. | Oct 27 00:17 |
oiaohm | Or lots or lots on air craft would have been sick. | Oct 27 00:18 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/tilera_third_gen_mesh_chips/ | Oct 27 00:18 |
schestowitz | "Upstart massively multicore chip designer Tilera has divulged the details on its upcoming third generation of Tile processors, which will sport from 16 to 100 cores on a single die." | Oct 27 00:18 |
oiaohm | Yep seen them nice buggers schestowitz | Oct 27 00:18 |
oiaohm | I used the old 64 core chips slower but still nice. | Oct 27 00:18 |
schestowitz | "There are a lot of differences between the Tile family of chips and these graphics processors, but the key one is that the Tile multicore processors run Linux directly (albeit a homegrown one) and are being designed not just for digital signal and networking processing, but to run that standard LAMP stack - Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP." | Oct 27 00:19 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: make a tent while the disease is inside /j | Oct 27 00:20 |
oiaohm | I have used tile for large are virus scanning. | Oct 27 00:20 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, This is getting very bad | Oct 27 00:20 |
DaemonFC | I was in McDonalds today and saw about 6 people come in coughing and wheezing | Oct 27 00:21 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/terrorism/assets/hazmat_suit.jpg | Oct 27 00:21 |
oiaohm | There is something else as well. | Oct 27 00:21 |
schestowitz | Just fix z straw in it :-) | Oct 27 00:21 |
oiaohm | the virus does not seam to transmit in areas where there is heat. | Oct 27 00:21 |
oiaohm | Cold temp seams to be a requirement for its transfer. | Oct 27 00:21 |
oiaohm | You don't need hazmat for h1n1 food prep gloves do. It is mostly contact transfer. | Oct 27 00:22 |
DaemonFC | oiaohm, droplets | Oct 27 00:23 |
DaemonFC | AKA, sneezing, coughing | Oct 27 00:23 |
oiaohm | That is what is funny. | Oct 27 00:23 |
oiaohm | It don't seam to spreed in those droplets | Oct 27 00:24 |
oiaohm | coughing and sneezing seams to be purely body own reaction not where the virus is. | Oct 27 00:24 |
oiaohm | Yet a person touch something then you touch it you are at risk. | Oct 27 00:25 |
oiaohm | Most of the cold base viruses are airborn in the droplets. H1N1 is a odd ball. | Oct 27 00:26 |
oiaohm | Since cold makes it last fridges become highly dangrous with it. | Oct 27 00:27 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: everyone would have shared the same door into the building right. And touched it without gloves. | Oct 27 00:28 |
oiaohm | Contact born is extreamly effective transport system. | Oct 27 00:29 |
schestowitz | Scary stuff. | Oct 27 00:30 |
schestowitz | I've not been ill in ages | Oct 27 00:31 |
oiaohm | That has also been the funny thing we though we were doing good not being ill for ages. | Oct 27 00:32 |
schestowitz | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/10/24/john-dvorak-reverses-entire-career-says-microsoft-should-copy-apple/ | Oct 27 00:32 |
oiaohm | Turned out we were kinda too sick to get ill schestowitz | Oct 27 00:32 |
DaemonFC | oiaohm, I use GermX after touching public doorknobs | Oct 27 00:32 |
schestowitz | You can get the bacteria dead | Oct 27 00:32 |
DaemonFC | I keep a bottle with me | Oct 27 00:32 |
schestowitz | For vaccination without the pain | Oct 27 00:32 |
schestowitz | But then you cheat evolution | Oct 27 00:32 |
DaemonFC | oiaohm, The alcohol in it kills influenza | Oct 27 00:33 |
DaemonFC | among lots of things | Oct 27 00:33 |
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oiaohm | GermX stuff don't work 100 percent. | Oct 27 00:33 |
DaemonFC | I've been taking every possible precaution, including getting the vaccine | Oct 27 00:33 |
oiaohm | Gloves are the simplest. | Oct 27 00:33 |
phIRCe-local | Hello World! | Oct 27 00:33 |
oiaohm | Ie gloves + germx it don't stand a chance DaemonFC | Oct 27 00:33 |
DaemonFC | oiaohm, It still leaves you to cross contaminate anything you touch | Oct 27 00:34 |
DaemonFC | including things you may touch or eat later | Oct 27 00:34 |
schestowitz | http://digitizor.com/2009/10/25/9-awesome-features-fedora-12/ | Oct 27 00:35 |
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oiaohm | gloves keep it off hands so blocking cut or damage in skin infection DaemonFC | Oct 27 00:35 |
oiaohm | You have to use it combind with germx to get close to full protection. | Oct 27 00:35 |
oiaohm | Also I cannot use germx directly on my skin. | Oct 27 00:36 |
oiaohm | The alcohol goes threw my skin. | Oct 27 00:36 |
schestowitz | /me finds http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/php/install.html | Oct 27 00:36 |
oiaohm | DaemonFC: not all door hands are smooth some are rough so getting virus into body too deep for germx to work | Oct 27 00:37 |
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phIRCe-local | Hello World! | Oct 27 00:38 |
schestowitz | http://digitizor.com/2009/10/25/9-awesome-features-fedora-12/ | Oct 27 00:38 |
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schestowitz | OK, fixed | Oct 27 00:38 |
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schestowitz | http://buytaert.net/whitehouse-gov-using-drupal | Oct 27 00:42 |
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schestowitz | !google microsoft uses drupal | Oct 27 00:44 |
phIRCe-local | [1] - Blogger touts SharePoint, but uses Drupal | The Open Road - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10305396-16.html | Oct 27 00:44 |
phIRCe-local | [2] - Viddler.com - How To Use Drupal Blocks - Uploaded by beyourownit | http://www.viddler.com/explore/beyourownit/videos/42/ | Oct 27 00:44 |
phIRCe-local | [3] - Drupal vs. SharePoint from a Developer's Viewpoint | Mediacurrent | http://www.mediacurrent.com/blogs/drupal-vs-sharepoint | Oct 27 00:44 |
phIRCe-local | [4] - Microsoft and Drupal | Dries Buytaert | http://buytaert.net/microsoft-and-drupal | Oct 27 00:44 |
wallc | Well, Monday is over for me, and none too soon, I might add. What a crazy day. It's time for food and quiet....so, bye for now. | Oct 27 00:45 |
wallc | :) | Oct 27 00:45 |
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schestowitz | Thanks! | Oct 27 00:45 |
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_goblin | "schestowitz claims to have secret contacts, why can't I?" - Elland Road | Oct 27 00:56 |
_goblin | been showing up a blogger and his one reader today.... | Oct 27 00:56 |
_goblin | elland Road a name linked with Lin$ux ergo, immaturity, profanity and weak arguments...(oh and a little dishonesty thrown in for good measure) | Oct 27 00:57 |
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oiaohm | Hmm where is that from _goblin | Oct 27 01:04 |
_goblin | from a blogger of the Lin%ux community. | Oct 27 01:07 |
_goblin | it was his opinions of Roy's interview and some lies he posted about me. | Oct 27 01:08 |
_goblin | Ive not highlighted it on the blog as he appears to get only 1 or 2 readers (probably all from Linsux) and I didn't want to give him any cheap hits. | Oct 27 01:08 |
oiaohm | Big thing over the secret contacts. schestowitz has had some of his secret contacts come forward and say who they are. | Oct 27 01:09 |
_goblin | I can PM you the link if you want to look at it. | Oct 27 01:09 |
oiaohm | So a linsux drop kick. | Oct 27 01:09 |
_goblin | its a really dire effort.... | Oct 27 01:09 |
oiaohm | Most because BSD is losing. | Oct 27 01:10 |
oiaohm | Upset BSD fans. | Oct 27 01:10 |
_goblin | I think they are all Windows users... | Oct 27 01:10 |
_goblin | always have been | Oct 27 01:10 |
_goblin | if you check their "work" its all pro-MS | Oct 27 01:10 |
oiaohm | Some of them are. | Oct 27 01:11 |
_goblin | can't remember now how I discovered their little den...I think it was COLA. | Oct 27 01:11 |
schestowitz | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MOCs5B8LekE/SuTjaV3TTZI/AAAAAAAAAS8/Pe5LQo09XXY/s1600-h/shell-black2.png | Oct 27 01:11 |
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_goblin | they ran a little "hall of fame" with myself, Roy, Homer and many others....I was quite proud to be mentioned on the same page! | Oct 27 01:12 |
schestowitz | [01:09] <_goblin> I can PM you the link if you want to look at it. | Oct 27 01:12 |
schestowitz | No, don't feed trolls | Oct 27 01:12 |
schestowitz | Just ignore them | Oct 27 01:12 |
schestowitz | THey don't like Linux | Oct 27 01:12 |
_goblin | Ive already responded....I got them to correct some lies. | Oct 27 01:13 |
schestowitz | They want to portray Linux advocates as "bad" | Oct 27 01:13 |
_goblin | they've certainly failed in this instance. | Oct 27 01:13 |
_goblin | Ive simply shown them up as liars. | Oct 27 01:13 |
_goblin | the funny thing is they seem genuinely surprised at how I found their article....they obviously didn't intend for me to see it.... | Oct 27 01:14 |
_goblin | they even asked how I found it..... | Oct 27 01:14 |
oiaohm | Did you answer the normal by mistake in google. | Oct 27 01:15 |
_goblin | if I was 18 years younger and it was the old Amiga days.....I would have called them lamers. | Oct 27 01:15 |
_goblin | sorry oiaohm? | Oct 27 01:16 |
oiaohm | When they asked how you found it _goblin | Oct 27 01:16 |
_goblin | ah | Oct 27 01:16 |
schestowitz | Did Linux action show just rename to computer action show? http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/?p=1401 | Oct 27 01:16 |
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schestowitz | It would make sense | Oct 27 01:17 |
_goblin | no, I gave nothing away....just said: "if he or you knew anything about the subjects of the people you attack and not simply how to troll, you wouldn't need to ask.." | Oct 27 01:17 |
schestowitz | They were (partly) Windows users doing an anti-GNU show | Oct 27 01:17 |
schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2009/10/windows_7_the_f.html | Oct 27 01:18 |
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schestowitz | Ha! Priceless | Oct 27 01:18 |
schestowitz | "My main Windows 7 system, which has been rock solid since I installed the shipping version of the operating system in early August, presented me with my first Blue Screen of Death this morning. The system had been acting a bit cranky for an hour or so when it suddenly crashed." | Oct 27 01:18 |
schestowitz | Here we go, baby! | Oct 27 01:18 |
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oiaohm | Ok how many months is that about 3? | Oct 27 01:18 |
oiaohm | So Windows 7 is the same as NT 3.5 ? | Oct 27 01:19 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/40626#comment-11723 | Oct 27 01:22 |
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schestowitz | I need to get some sleep, I thinl... | Oct 27 01:23 |
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cubezzz | Amiga days :) | Oct 27 04:09 |
cubezzz | xboard is missing fonts, the chess player is very displeased | Oct 27 04:09 |
cubezzz | any easy way to clipboard from one Linux computer to another? | Oct 27 04:15 |
cubezzz | guess I'll just ssh into the server | Oct 27 04:19 |
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fewa | i read somewhere that you could put the keyboard and mouse of one computer onto another X screen | Oct 27 04:40 |
fewa | and forgot how it was done | Oct 27 04:40 |
DaemonFC | the X11 nightmare | Oct 27 04:42 |
fewa | wut | Oct 27 04:43 |
fewa | X11 is great | Oct 27 04:43 |
DaemonFC | would be nice if they could replace it with something that works right rather than trying to gut it a piece at a time and replace each piece with something that works | Oct 27 04:43 |
fewa | what can you do with Windows UI that you cant do with X11? | Oct 27 04:43 |
fewa | I can list many thing that win32 gui cant do | Oct 27 04:43 |
DaemonFC | X11 is hardly a GUI by itself | Oct 27 04:44 |
fewa | windowing system | Oct 27 04:44 |
DaemonFC | it's just part of the great sandwich of *nix | Oct 27 04:45 |
fewa | http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/ | Oct 27 04:46 |
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fewa | 2006... | Oct 27 04:46 |
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fewa | guess its maintaned | Oct 27 05:11 |
fewa | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=synergy | Oct 27 05:11 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Debian -- Package Search Results -- synergy .::. Size~: 9.73 KB | Oct 27 05:11 |
Diablo-D3 | synergy sucks so badly | Oct 27 05:12 |
fewa | hmm | Oct 27 05:12 |
*Diablo-D3 quit using that | Oct 27 05:12 | |
fewa | there has to be a way | Oct 27 05:12 |
Diablo-D3 | you really want x2x | Oct 27 05:12 |
Diablo-D3 | or x2vnc | Oct 27 05:12 |
Diablo-D3 | or win2vnc | Oct 27 05:12 |
fewa | just with X11 | Oct 27 05:12 |
Diablo-D3 | I use x2x now | Oct 27 05:12 |
Diablo-D3 | example of usage: ssh tempest x2x -west -to :0 | Oct 27 05:13 |
fewa | yes that looks better | Oct 27 05:13 |
Diablo-D3 | tempest is the laptop I'm remote controlling | Oct 27 05:13 |
Diablo-D3 | it is left of me | Oct 27 05:13 |
fewa | so you have to install it on the target | Oct 27 05:18 |
fewa | not the source | Oct 27 05:18 |
Diablo-D3 | to make ssh work, yes | Oct 27 05:21 |
Diablo-D3 | technically you're not supposed to | Oct 27 05:21 |
Diablo-D3 | but X authentication is worthless shit | Oct 27 05:21 |
Diablo-D3 | so making ssh handle it for you is such a superior method | Oct 27 05:22 |
fewa | its not working | Oct 27 05:22 |
Diablo-D3 | where is your remote machine? | Oct 27 05:22 |
fewa | a virtual machine:P | Oct 27 05:22 |
Diablo-D3 | uh | Oct 27 05:22 |
Diablo-D3 | you dont use x2x for that. | Oct 27 05:22 |
fewa | i know | Oct 27 05:22 |
fewa | but yous till could | Oct 27 05:22 |
Diablo-D3 | no you cant | Oct 27 05:22 |
fewa | why not? | Oct 27 05:22 |
Diablo-D3 | well, you might, but it'd be really confusing | Oct 27 05:22 |
fewa | yes | Oct 27 05:23 |
fewa | but im just testing it out | Oct 27 05:23 |
Diablo-D3 | I have X on by default on tempest | Oct 27 05:23 |
fewa | x2x - error: can not open display | Oct 27 05:23 |
Diablo-D3 | so add a -X in there | Oct 27 05:23 |
Diablo-D3 | after ssh before machine name | Oct 27 05:23 |
Diablo-D3 | ssh doesnt do X forwarding by default | Oct 27 05:23 |
fewa | woot it worked | Oct 27 05:23 |
fewa | sweet | Oct 27 05:23 |
fewa | woah that cool | Oct 27 05:24 |
fewa | sweet :P | Oct 27 05:24 |
fewa | there ws a prob with xcb libraries not too long abo where they had Nagle's algorithm on | Oct 27 05:27 |
Diablo-D3 | not that shit again | Oct 27 05:30 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] I'm Not Here To Defend Everything The Insurance Industry Does BUT…Congressman @danburton http://ur1.ca/eiql #hc09 #sick4profit #sickcare #hc | Oct 27 06:02 | |
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DaemonFC | oh hell no | Oct 27 06:09 |
DaemonFC | Burton | Oct 27 06:09 |
DaemonFC | yuck | Oct 27 06:09 |
DaemonFC | that's the congressman for my district in Indiana. such an embarassment | Oct 27 06:09 |
cubezzz | x2x looks very old | Oct 27 06:20 |
Diablo-D3 | x2x is very old | Oct 27 06:25 |
Diablo-D3 | I think Ive been using it for a decade | Oct 27 06:25 |
fewa | doesn't matter | Oct 27 06:25 |
fewa | its part of the X protocol | Oct 27 06:25 |
Diablo-D3 | fewa: btw, if you're going to make this perminent | Oct 27 06:25 |
fewa | until they drop it | Oct 27 06:25 |
Diablo-D3 | add a profile for it in your .ssh/config | Oct 27 06:25 |
cubezzz | how did you compile it? | Oct 27 06:25 |
Diablo-D3 | and a key | Oct 27 06:26 |
Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: he apt-got it | Oct 27 06:26 |
Diablo-D3 | its in debian after all | Oct 27 06:26 |
fewa | apt-get install x2x | Oct 27 06:26 |
fewa | poc | Oct 27 06:26 |
Diablo-D3 | fewa: passphraseless keys++ | Oct 27 06:26 |
fewa | Diablo-D3, o yes, i already have that | Oct 27 06:26 |
fewa | ssh-copy-id | Oct 27 06:26 |
Diablo-D3 | host tempest 192.168.2.4 | Oct 27 06:27 |
Diablo-D3 | ForwardX11 yes | Oct 27 06:27 |
Diablo-D3 | Compression no | Oct 27 06:27 |
Diablo-D3 | lawl | Oct 27 06:27 |
DaemonFC | we don't have enough swine flu vaccine for our own people, but Obama still wants to give 10% of our supply away | Oct 27 06:29 |
fewa | DaemonFC, Walmart double charges | Oct 27 06:29 |
DaemonFC | that's the kind of bullshit charity I was talking about a while back | Oct 27 06:29 |
fewa | they charge Medicaid/Medicare | Oct 27 06:29 |
fewa | and then the customer | Oct 27 06:29 |
DaemonFC | fewa, Medicare will pay 80% of it | Oct 27 06:30 |
fewa | along with a few other unscrupulus businesses | Oct 27 06:30 |
DaemonFC | so you might have like $2 or something left, yeah | Oct 27 06:30 |
fewa | but they charge its cost | Oct 27 06:30 |
fewa | they charge $15 | Oct 27 06:30 |
DaemonFC | Medicaid would pay for all of it | Oct 27 06:30 |
fewa | and then bill Medicare/Medicaid as well | Oct 27 06:30 |
DaemonFC | fewa, That wouldn't happen | Oct 27 06:30 |
DaemonFC | it would be highly illegal and would cost them more than they stand to make in fines and penalties alone | Oct 27 06:31 |
fewa | hmmm | Oct 27 06:31 |
fewa | well maybe not them | Oct 27 06:31 |
fewa | anyways, its swine flu | Oct 27 06:31 |
DaemonFC | fewa, If they could get away with it on a large scale and no laws against defrauding the government, they may do that | Oct 27 06:31 |
fewa | the false claims act is a good law | Oct 27 06:32 |
DaemonFC | I'd call bullshit on this first of all, because the customer would notice that | Oct 27 06:32 |
fewa | so yeah, you are probably right | Oct 27 06:32 |
fewa | it was only an allegation, i didn't researh it | Oct 27 06:32 |
DaemonFC | fewa, I paid $18 at Walgreens | Oct 27 06:32 |
DaemonFC | I have no insurance though | Oct 27 06:32 |
DaemonFC | the $18 was a better investment than trying to fend off another $10,000 in hospital bills if the swine flu takes me down as hard as I've seen it do to others | Oct 27 06:33 |
DaemonFC | fewa, It's $15 if you can find any place that has the shot, that's what runs out first | Oct 27 06:34 |
DaemonFC | they have tons of the nasal spray version, that's $18 | Oct 27 06:34 |
DaemonFC | rumors going around that the nasal spray doesn't work means a lot of people won't take it | Oct 27 06:35 |
DaemonFC | fact is that it's just as effective as a shot, and some studies have suggested, more effective | Oct 27 06:35 |
DaemonFC | they believe that the FluMist nasal spray may offer some immunity to subtypes of flu other than what the vaccine is made for | Oct 27 06:36 |
DaemonFC | it is worthless in old people though | Oct 27 06:36 |
DaemonFC | they say don't bother if you're over 49 | Oct 27 06:36 |
DaemonFC | fewa, My name is still on the waiting list for the shot at the health department, so I'm tossing around the idea of maybe taking that too | Oct 27 06:37 |
DaemonFC | couldn't hurt | Oct 27 06:37 |
DaemonFC | I think people are just skeptical of anything new, that's why they are refusing the nasal spray | Oct 27 06:38 |
cubezzz | nasal spray isn't that new :) | Oct 27 06:40 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, 2003, so about 6 years old | Oct 27 06:40 |
DaemonFC | people have been getting the shot for over 60 years | Oct 27 06:41 |
cubezzz | I'd rather get the nasal spray than a needle | Oct 27 06:41 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, I wouldn't bother unless it's all you can find | Oct 27 06:41 |
DaemonFC | the shot doesn't even hurt | Oct 27 06:41 |
DaemonFC | the older you get, the less of an effect the nasal spray would have on you | Oct 27 06:42 |
cubezzz | I can't find anything on x2x except this old 1997 source code | Oct 27 06:43 |
cubezzz | yum install x2x didn't work for me | Oct 27 06:43 |
fewa | http://packages.debian.org/sid/x2x | Oct 27 06:45 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC NEWS | Technology | Ubuntu readies the Karmic Koala http://tinyurl.com/yhcxlkt | Oct 27 07:17 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Metallica #Pinball Table Runs #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/eiwy | Oct 27 07:57 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Works Fine in Business Desktops http://ur1.ca/eixi http://ur1.ca/eixj | Oct 27 08:06 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Unknown Horizons Runs on #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/eixl http://ur1.ca/eixm | Oct 27 08:08 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #xcompmgr is noticably faster and lighter than #compiz on my #Powerbook G4 + #Radeon 9600, using #EXA | Oct 27 08:14 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Rare #Review of #GNOME #SlackBuild 2.26.3 http://bit.ly/Zlnao | Oct 27 08:14 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #KDE4 Distribution Chakra is Reviewed http://bit.ly/29nwxj Looks nice | Oct 27 08:17 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 14-Terabyte #Storage Unit Runs #Linux http://bit.ly/2sTQ9P | Oct 27 08:42 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux-based #Nokia #N900 Shows Anyone Can Use #GNU / Linux Now http://ur1.ca/eizd http://ur1.ca/eizf | Oct 27 08:44 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 100-Core #Mesh processor Runs #Linux http://bit.ly/rvbVf | Oct 27 08:45 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MySQL Debate Carries on as #Stallman Visits Malaysia http://ur1.ca/ebkt http://ur1.ca/eizz http://ur1.ca/ej00 | Oct 27 08:49 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Will the real "new" features in Windows 7 please stand up http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1009 | Oct 27 08:54 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #GRUB 1.97 is Out http://bit.ly/15L53s | Oct 27 08:55 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I'm finding many negative experiences from Vista7 users in recent days. It's like Vista circa 2007 | Oct 27 09:26 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Nice piece about Ubuntu linked from the BBC home page http://bit.ly/3f854w | Oct 27 09:49 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | Technology | Ubuntu readies the Karmic Koala .::. Size~: 53.41 KB | Oct 27 09:49 |
oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi_%28software%29 I forget this attempt by sun to make windows api a ISO standard | Oct 27 10:32 |
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trmanco | cool | Oct 27 11:12 |
trmanco | who is phirce-local? | Oct 27 11:13 |
trmanco | ah, it's schestowitz | Oct 27 11:13 |
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satipera | hello all | Oct 27 11:20 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Waiting (im)patiently for my HTC Hero to arrive. | Oct 27 11:21 | |
satipera | Roy, I had not previously delved so far into the guardian technology site as to read charlies angles, have you read it by any chance? | Oct 27 11:22 |
satipera | The articles go back a few months, but have a look he seems quite on board. | Oct 27 11:23 |
satipera | If I remember correctly he is the tecdhnology section editor | Oct 27 11:24 |
satipera | Well it surprised me , just thought I would mention it. | Oct 27 11:25 |
satipera | bye all | Oct 27 11:26 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Scientologists convicted of fraud http://tinyurl.com/ykgfwhv | Oct 27 11:27 | |
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Will__ | Great jack o lantern: http://kotaku.com/5390665/the-red-ring-of-pumpkin-death | Oct 27 11:31 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] WhiteHouse.gov now uses Open Source software to power the site - Drupal specifically. Neat. http://bit.ly/GvQ7y How did I miss that. | Oct 27 11:33 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Scientology is not a #religion http://ur1.ca/ejd9 | Oct 27 11:34 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Outlook set for more open future - More distraction PR stories spouted by loyal proxies http://tinyurl.com/ygarho5 | Oct 27 11:34 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | Technology | Outlook set for more open future .::. Size~: 47.29 KB | Oct 27 11:34 |
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schestowitz | trmanco: you run yours :-) | Oct 27 11:42 |
schestowitz | Just needed a fallback overnight | Oct 27 11:43 |
trmanco | I haven't done any major changes to my copy yet | Oct 27 11:43 |
schestowitz | schestowitz: not Charles Arthur? | Oct 27 11:43 |
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schestowitz | oops. | Oct 27 11:44 |
schestowitz | <satipera> I meant | Oct 27 11:44 |
schestowitz | He had left | Oct 27 11:44 |
schestowitz | trmanco: I had to get php5-curl | Oct 27 11:45 |
trmanco | yeah | Oct 27 11:45 |
trmanco | maybe I should update the requirements | Oct 27 11:46 |
schestowitz | Are you gonna run your copy? | Oct 27 11:47 |
oiaohm | http://www.osnews.com/story/22397/Qt4_Ported_to_Haiku_Developer_Preview_Release_Available Hmm QT quickly coming the framework to run everywhere. | Oct 27 11:49 |
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schestowitz | Haha | Oct 27 12:16 |
schestowitz | Haiku | Oct 27 12:16 |
oiaohm | http://steveire.wordpress.com/ Akonadi is also going strange now web support. | Oct 27 12:20 |
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phIRCe | Hello World! | Oct 27 12:21 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 27 12:22 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Real (and Negative) #Reviews of #Vista7 Start Coming http://bit.ly/4h1PCU | Oct 27 12:22 | |
trmanco | :) | Oct 27 12:22 |
schestowitz | Read the above post | Oct 27 12:23 |
phIRCe | Title: The Real (and Negative) Reviews of Vista 7 Start Coming | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 120.97 KB | Oct 27 12:23 |
schestowitz | Vista 7 is dying in the public mind rapidly | Oct 27 12:23 |
trmanco | it gets as stupid as not being able to login into a simple forum... | Oct 27 12:25 |
schestowitz | Which one? | Oct 27 12:25 |
schestowitz | They have no windows7 groups | Oct 27 12:25 |
schestowitz | Unlike Vista | Oct 27 12:25 |
trmanco | "Já falei com o cenouras à muito tempo, não sei se foi desde que instalei o 7 ou a nova versão do Firefox, há muito tempo que me dá sempre o mesmo erro, o problema não é da net que através do Linux funciona bem..." | Oct 27 12:25 |
schestowitz | And they didn't troll COLA, for the first time in like... ever | Oct 27 12:25 |
schestowitz | I see... | Oct 27 12:26 |
schestowitz | So compatibility issues on arrival | Oct 27 12:26 |
trmanco | it gives him session errors | Oct 27 12:26 |
trmanco | but on linux it works | Oct 27 12:26 |
trmanco | time to put 7 in the trash | Oct 27 12:26 |
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trmanco | will it blend? | Oct 27 12:27 |
trmanco | :-p | Oct 27 12:27 |
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oiaohm | Thing is gap between windows and Linux is closing. | Oct 27 12:31 |
oiaohm | Mostly because MS has stood still for too long. | Oct 27 12:31 |
ThistleWeb | so much MS work has been in trying to move the goalposts to prevent interoperability, than actually doing anything new or inovative | Oct 27 12:32 |
ThistleWeb | "if it works, we'll fix it" | Oct 27 12:32 |
ThistleWeb | all to keep people addicted | Oct 27 12:33 |
oiaohm | Linux world has been trying to create interoperablity in its zone. | Oct 27 12:35 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Bilski hearing next 9 November in Washington DC: http://i5.be/P8 | Oct 27 12:47 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://bit.ly/Dxvfa *chrotle* "Microsoft Shocked 'Family Guy' Humor Includes Incest, Holocaust Jokes" | Oct 27 12:50 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Call for Federal Action Against #Microsoft (and Gates) #Tax Dodge http://ping.fm/E0sVr | Oct 27 13:20 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/27/wireless_tax/ | Oct 27 13:22 |
phIRCe | Title: Bloggers go ballistic over non-existent wireless tax • The Register .::. Size~: 21.5 KB | Oct 27 13:22 |
oiaohm | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_56 So suitable. | Oct 27 13:22 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: I didn't see article/blog posts about launch parties | Oct 27 13:23 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/whitehouse_website_goes_open_source/ "Known as Drupal, the new open-source platform carries a GNU General Public License, and support services are provided by a startup called Acquia." | Oct 27 13:27 |
oiaohm | I think they were complete flop. | Oct 27 13:27 |
phIRCe | Title: Obama's White House web gets all open sourcy • The Register .::. Size~: 24.26 KB | Oct 27 13:27 |
schestowitz | *LOL* @ "ditching the proprietary CMS used by the Dubya administration." | Oct 27 13:27 |
schestowitz | MSBBC has a "Koala v Windows" article today | Oct 27 13:28 |
*schestowitz listens to http://www.honeysac.jp/ | Oct 27 13:29 | |
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oiaohm | Next month is the start of the distribution cycle. | Oct 27 13:29 |
schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/10/26/youtube-faces-formal-complaints-in-germany | Oct 27 13:30 |
phIRCe | Title: YouTube Faces Formal Complaints In Germany | WebProNews .::. Size~: 31.27 KB | Oct 27 13:31 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Oct 27 13:31 |
schestowitz | I can't be arsed to move to Mandriva on the main box and set things up again | Oct 27 13:31 |
schestowitz | But when this one ages... | Oct 27 13:31 |
schestowitz | Are you on Debian"? | Oct 27 13:31 |
schestowitz | http://www.technewsworld.com/rsstory/68473.html | Oct 27 13:33 |
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oiaohm | Currently on Debian schestowitz | Oct 27 13:35 |
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oiaohm | I am over due for a change of distribution. | Oct 27 13:36 |
schestowitz | Opensuse is good for kde | Oct 27 13:37 |
schestowitz | Green plasma | Oct 27 13:37 |
zer0c00l | schestowitz: whats the distro you are on? | Oct 27 13:40 |
oiaohm | My check list of stuff I want in Linux is getting shorter. | Oct 27 13:41 |
oiaohm | I am looking forward to gimps planed plate system. | Oct 27 13:41 |
ThistleWeb | I find that too, but part of me thinks......hang on, where was I?......oh yeah, memory issues, I forget stuff lol | Oct 27 13:41 |
ThistleWeb | the single window gimp is a huge deal | Oct 27 13:42 |
zer0c00l | ThistleWeb: How? | Oct 27 13:42 |
schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091026/0347016672.shtml Dear Hollywood: Don't Be Idiots; Don't Delay Movie Rentals | Oct 27 13:42 |
phIRCe | Title: Dear Hollywood: Don't Be Idiots; Don't Delay Movie Rentals | Techdirt .::. Size~: 91.97 KB | Oct 27 13:42 |
schestowitz | zer0c00l: right now kubuntu 9.10 | Oct 27 13:42 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] LG Electronics poxying lawsuits through patent trolls: http://i5.be/Qa | Oct 27 13:42 | |
phIRCe | Title: A Look Behind The Curtain: How A Patent Hoarder Makes Money | Techdirt .::. Size~: 51.57 KB | Oct 27 13:43 |
ThistleWeb | the multiple windows is awkward to work with | Oct 27 13:43 |
zer0c00l | schestowitz: karmic cola? | Oct 27 13:43 |
zer0c00l | ThistleWeb: yes | Oct 27 13:43 |
zer0c00l | ThistleWeb: how do you make it as single window! | Oct 27 13:43 |
ThistleWeb | I'm glad it's an option, for peeps to chose the older UI if they like | Oct 27 13:43 |
ThistleWeb | right now? there's gimpshop which I tried once and didnt get working | Oct 27 13:44 |
zer0c00l | lol | Oct 27 13:44 |
ThistleWeb | but the next version of gimp 2.8 has the single window by default | Oct 27 13:44 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microblogging daemonised by filtering companies http://ping.fm/Ep2Qz | Oct 27 13:44 | |
phIRCe | Title: No, Twitter Use Is Not Costing Companies Billions | Techdirt .::. Size~: 63.01 KB | Oct 27 13:45 |
ThistleWeb | to me, the single window looks much more approachable | Oct 27 13:45 |
zer0c00l | There are lot of drones here in BN these days; lol | Oct 27 13:45 |
ThistleWeb | it's long overdue in gimp | Oct 27 13:45 |
schestowitz | zer0c00l: no. | Oct 27 13:45 |
schestowitz | soda cola | Oct 27 13:45 |
zer0c00l | schestowitz: Why you are calling so? | Oct 27 13:45 |
zer0c00l | schestowitz: Dont like it? | Oct 27 13:45 |
zer0c00l | lol | Oct 27 13:45 |
schestowitz | You said: | Oct 27 13:46 |
schestowitz |  | Oct 27 13:46 |
schestowitz | [13:43] <zer0c00l> schestowitz: karmic cola? | Oct 27 13:46 |
oiaohm | plates system that is coming is far more important than the single ui for gimp. | Oct 27 13:46 |
zer0c00l | okok lol | Oct 27 13:46 |
schestowitz | !google coca cola brand value | Oct 27 13:46 |
phIRCe | [1] - Mission Statement & Vision: The Coca-Cola Company | http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/ourcompany/mission_vision_values.html | Oct 27 13:46 |
phIRCe | [2] - Coca-Cola brand value tops $58.2 bn, claims report | http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Financial-Industry/Coca-Cola-brand-value-tops-58.2-bn-claims-report | Oct 27 13:46 |
phIRCe | [3] - Best Global Brands 2006 | http://www.interbrand.com/images/studies/BGB06Report_072706.pdf | Oct 27 13:46 |
phIRCe | [4] - Google | GE | Microsoft | Coca-Cola | China Mobile | IBM | Apple ... | http://www.millwardbrown.com/Sites/optimor/Media/Pdfs/en/BrandZ/BrandZ-2008-Report.pdf | Oct 27 13:46 |
ThistleWeb | no idea what plates are in this context | Oct 27 13:46 |
schestowitz | There's also Ubuntu cola | Oct 27 13:47 |
oiaohm | plates gives gimp the way to do cymk and well past it. Each plate can be a ink in the printer. | Oct 27 13:47 |
ThistleWeb | ooooh | Oct 27 13:47 |
zer0c00l | schestowitz: Hear some somewhere | Oct 27 13:47 |
zer0c00l | s/hear/heared | Oct 27 13:47 |
ThistleWeb | I know they're doing grouped layers in gimp 2.8 too | Oct 27 13:47 |
zer0c00l | schestowitz: What is that? | Oct 27 13:47 |
schestowitz | killercoke.org | Oct 27 13:47 |
zer0c00l | schestowitz: what is ubuntu cola? | Oct 27 13:47 |
schestowitz | !google ubuntu cola | Oct 27 13:48 |
phIRCe | [1] - Fair Trade products | Fair Trade goods | Ubuntu Cola. | http://www.ubuntu-trading.com/ | Oct 27 13:48 |
phIRCe | [2] - Ubuntu Cola - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Cola | Oct 27 13:48 |
phIRCe | [3] - Ubuntu Cola | http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Cola | Oct 27 13:48 |
phIRCe | [4] - Ubuntu Cola Makes Us Realize Our Carbonated Ignorance - Cola ... | http://gizmodo.com/321250/ubuntu-cola-makes-us-realize-our-carbonated-ignorance | Oct 27 13:48 |
oiaohm | plates is named after printer press plates for obsouse reasons ThistleWeb | Oct 27 13:48 |
ThistleWeb | k | Oct 27 13:48 |
ThistleWeb | yeah I guessed it'd have some connection to printing somehow with the name, but never heard of it | Oct 27 13:48 |
oiaohm | Core of gimp will be rgba with a plates generation system to create cymk outputs and others. | Oct 27 13:48 |
zer0c00l | ThistleWeb: Why don't you mention nicknames of those people you are talking to? | Oct 27 13:49 |
ThistleWeb | zer0c00l: I sometimes do | Oct 27 13:50 |
ThistleWeb | sometimes don't | Oct 27 13:50 |
zer0c00l | ThistleWeb: Its like talking to yourself; | Oct 27 13:50 |
zer0c00l | lol | Oct 27 13:50 |
*ThistleWeb likes keeping ya on yer toes lol | Oct 27 13:50 | |
oiaohm | Peter Sikking did video on it ThistleWeb I think 122 meatthegimp | Oct 27 13:51 |
zer0c00l | s/meatthegimp/meetthegimp | Oct 27 13:51 |
ThistleWeb | oiaohm: I did watch a "coming in 2.8" video from meetthegimp | Oct 27 13:51 |
oiaohm | Yes I have ThistleWeb | Oct 27 13:51 |
oiaohm | I have it downloaded. | Oct 27 13:52 |
ThistleWeb | thats where I found the single window and grouped layers thing | Oct 27 13:52 |
ThistleWeb | it's a good videocast | Oct 27 13:52 |
ThistleWeb | so is screencasters.heathenx.com for inkscape | Oct 27 13:53 |
oiaohm | Following Peter Sikking is always interesting. He is a great user interface designer. | Oct 27 13:53 |
ThistleWeb | wait, wasn;t it rolf who did the meetthegimp video> | Oct 27 13:54 |
oiaohm | http://meetthegimp.org/no-cymk-for-gimp-but-something-better-plates/ | Oct 27 13:54 |
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oiaohm | That video ThistleWeb very interest watch. Peter Sikking takes the complex sections like cymk and works out how they should be done. | Oct 27 13:55 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT@santhoshtr How Proprietary JAWS Bites the Blind http://tr.im/DdF3 #accessibility | Oct 27 13:55 | |
phIRCe | Title: open...: How Proprietary JAWS Bites the Blind .::. Size~: 102.17 KB | Oct 27 13:55 |
ThistleWeb | I missed that one as I only subscribe to the videocast, not the blog | Oct 27 13:56 |
ThistleWeb | I'll watch that later when I;m more alert ty | Oct 27 13:56 |
ThistleWeb | colour talk is VERY technical | Oct 27 13:57 |
oiaohm | Just happen to be one of the most important videos of the year ThistleWeb | Oct 27 13:57 |
ThistleWeb | oiaohm: yeah like I said I get the videocast, and it didn't come through that channel so I missed it | Oct 27 13:57 |
oiaohm | It also is the video that lead to single windows gui design ThistleWeb | Oct 27 14:00 |
*ThistleWeb considers himself chastised lol | Oct 27 14:02 | |
ThistleWeb | k, my nameserver has updated, so I got drupal to install bbl | Oct 27 14:02 |
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oiaohm | Its interesting watching him process threw the gui design suggests from the public.. | Oct 27 14:03 |
zer0c00l | !google oiaohm | Oct 27 14:04 |
phIRCe | [1] - iTWire - Linux Hater's Redux... dead? Long live... Oiaohm?! | http://www.itwire.com/content/view/22130/1154/ | Oct 27 14:04 |
phIRCe | [2] - Linux.com :: Linux Hater's Redux... dead? Long live... Oiaohm?! | http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/155138 | Oct 27 14:04 |
phIRCe | [3] - oiaohm - InfoWorld | http://www.infoworld.com/users/oiaohm | Oct 27 14:04 |
phIRCe | [4] - Ubuntu Forums - View Profile: oiaohm | http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php%3Fu%3D5190 | Oct 27 14:04 |
zer0c00l | lol | Oct 27 14:04 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @anivar: RT@santhoshtr How Proprietary JAWS Bites the Blind http://tr.im/DdF3 #accessibility | Oct 27 14:04 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @amachu: மழை வருதாம்... வடகிழக்கு பருவ மழை.. | Oct 27 14:04 | |
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oiaohm | Yes I have really strange google answers at times zer0c00l | Oct 27 14:04 |
oiaohm | Ubuntu Profile exists to stop Ubuntu from using wine stupidly. | Oct 27 14:05 |
zer0c00l | oiaohm: ok | Oct 27 14:05 |
zer0c00l | oiaohm: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/155138 | Oct 27 14:06 |
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oiaohm | Something I did for fun zer0c00l | Oct 27 14:06 |
oiaohm | Rarely post to that blog. | Oct 27 14:06 |
zer0c00l | oiaohm: ok | Oct 27 14:06 |
oiaohm | Now the idea that I am only here is kinda wrong. I appear and disappear all over the place. | Oct 27 14:08 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/26/accused_nasa_spy_guilty_plea_overcharging/ | Oct 27 14:18 |
phIRCe | Title: Accused NASA spy billed US gov for swimming pool upkeep • The Register .::. Size~: 21.83 KB | Oct 27 14:18 |
schestowitz | http://reason.com/archives/2009/10/26/no-accountability | Oct 27 14:20 |
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schestowitz | http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/323713 | Oct 27 14:46 |
schestowitz | "Asustek Computer unveiled its first supercomputer on Monday, the desktop computer-sized ESC 1000, which uses Nvidia graphics processors to attain speeds up to 1.1 teraflops." | Oct 27 14:46 |
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schestowitz | Soldier's mother wants Tony Blair to answer for Iraq war http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/23/military-defence | Oct 27 14:50 |
schestowitz | Rebel British soldier calls for Afghan exit http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/25/rebel-soldier-wants-afghan-exit | Oct 27 14:51 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 'Researchers fear coral reefs won't survive next 50 years, so cryogenic plans are laid to rebuild them" http://ping.fm/XNUiL | Oct 27 14:52 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.enterpriseitplanet.com/security/features/article.php/3845571 | Oct 27 15:12 |
schestowitz | http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/concurrent-reports-fiscal-2010-first-quarter-results,1015416.shtml " the availability of Linux software in light of issues raised by SCO Group" | Oct 27 15:25 |
phIRCe | Title: Concurrent Reports Fiscal 2010 First Quarter Results .::. Size~: 69.79 KB | Oct 27 15:25 |
schestowitz | Why do they even mention this>? | Oct 27 15:25 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] @sagarun is having good time chatting with @abbe in #emacs-in ; | Oct 27 15:29 | |
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schestowitz | bbl | Oct 27 15:31 |
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wallc | Roy, and email with plex0 2846 pdf, as text, has been sent to you. | Oct 27 16:04 |
wallc | *an* | Oct 27 16:04 |
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zer0c00l | wallc: he is away | Oct 27 16:04 |
wallc | Ok - Must run now...but I'll check in again after lunch :) | Oct 27 16:05 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @warrenellis This guy could seriously use some legal help and attention from the press: http://bit.ly/1qscyG (please forward) | Oct 27 16:15 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] As staff use Linux, they didn't notice the Windows scareware http://tinyurl.com/ylnxl4u | Oct 27 16:47 | |
Omar87 | Hi all. | Oct 27 16:57 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Ahahahahahahahaha. http://bit.ly/3uQm38 #scientology #fail | Oct 27 17:34 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wiki_nihiltres A #Wikipedia Jack-o-lantern by @abbydrumm :D http://twitpic.com/n3dvt http://twitpic.com/n3dxz http://twitpic.com/n3dzm | Oct 27 17:53 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://bit.ly/1JT8UX Really clumsily written copy makes it sound like Linux at fault because Windows gets infected by malware. | Oct 27 18:00 | |
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schestowitz | jono: you're having your leg pulled around min10 here: http://cdn3.libsyn.com/linuxoutlaws/linuxoutlaws116.ogg?nvb=20091027175010&nva=20091028180010&t=01fa65a64c07465cbcbe9 | Oct 27 18:12 |
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phIRCe-local | Hello World! | Oct 27 18:24 |
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schestowitz | Hey | Oct 27 18:27 |
schestowitz | Coincidence | Oct 27 18:27 |
schestowitz | I mailed you exactly 10 secs ago | Oct 27 18:27 |
schestowitz | Heh -- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/27/gizmodo_suckerpunched_by_malware_hackers/ | Oct 27 18:29 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Gizmodo says sorry for malware suckerpunch • The Register .::. Size~: 27.56 KB | Oct 27 18:29 |
schestowitz | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/10/27/tiga_gtr/ | Oct 27 18:33 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Games developers demand tax breaks • Register Hardware .::. Size~: 21.79 KB | Oct 27 18:33 |
wallc | will go read now... | Oct 27 18:34 |
schestowitz | New site: http://www.banksterusa.org/ | Oct 27 18:35 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Real Economy Project .::. Size~: 27.67 KB | Oct 27 18:35 |
schestowitz | wallc: not many posts today | Oct 27 18:35 |
schestowitz | But mostly good news. Lots pro-Linux | Oct 27 18:35 |
*schestowitz always amused by how the trolls say Windows <next version> will kill kill kill Linux | Oct 27 18:36 | |
schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/10/guest_post_windows_7_doesnt_change_the_fact_that_linux_is_the_future.html | Oct 27 18:36 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Guest Post: Linux is the future, even after Windows 7 release .::. Size~: 53.93 KB | Oct 27 18:36 |
schestowitz | Microsoft employee who quit: "Many of the benefits of Linux are subtle. It doesn't come with any nagware. The default media player supports both many formats including QuickTime and Windows media. Likewise, the instant messaging program supports 16 different protocols. The GUI is more customizable. But the best feature of Linux is something that neither Windows nor the Macintosh have: a rich set of free applications, installable | Oct 27 18:36 |
schestowitz | with one click..." | Oct 27 18:36 |
schestowitz | He says his employer, Microsoft, is doomed | Oct 27 18:37 |
schestowitz | Not because of Apple | Oct 27 18:37 |
schestowitz | "THE EUROPEAN Commission’s scrutiny of Oracle’s proposed acquisition of Sun Micrososystems – already approved by the US – hangs on European concerns about what might happen to the open source MySQL database application Sun owns." | Oct 27 18:38 |
schestowitz | http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2009/1023/1224257277053.html | Oct 27 18:38 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Oracle fails to speak - The Irish Times - Fri, Oct 23, 2009 .::. Size~: 45.24 KB | Oct 27 18:38 |
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cubezzz | yeah windows isn't going to kill Linux | Oct 27 18:39 |
cubezzz | simple reason, programmers like source code | Oct 27 18:39 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, do you know the name of this Microsoft employee? | Oct 27 18:40 |
schestowitz | He mailed me before | Oct 27 18:41 |
schestowitz | regarding his book | Oct 27 18:41 |
schestowitz | he's s developer, not a suit like BillG | Oct 27 18:42 |
Diablo-D3 | who? | Oct 27 18:42 |
schestowitz | I sometimes wonder he Paul Allen and Woz quit cause their companies were not about development and they were the developers... | Oct 27 18:42 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: curtis | Oct 27 18:43 |
schestowitz | ""Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products." --Microsoft exec http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39286351,00.htm | Oct 27 18:43 |
Diablo-D3 | which curtis? | Oct 27 18:43 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Top stories - ZDNet UK News .::. Size~: 115.15 KB | Oct 27 18:43 |
cubezzz | it's true | Oct 27 18:43 |
Diablo-D3 | theres several people with curtis as a first and last name | Oct 27 18:43 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] it's entirely commercial, but it still gave some lulz http://is.gd/4EEcO | Oct 27 18:43 | |
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cubezzz | The original Microsoft BASIC itself, out of a dumpster of another company | Oct 27 18:44 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: David too | Oct 27 18:44 |
schestowitz | Or Davids and Davidson | Oct 27 18:45 |
Diablo-D3 | wait, there was a FOSS joke about this | Oct 27 18:45 |
cubezzz | Altair BASIC | Oct 27 18:45 |
schestowitz | GNU GNU GNU ...is not UNIX? | Oct 27 18:45 |
cubezzz | "the PDP-10 time used to run 8080 simulators. Used to write that initial Basic | Oct 27 18:46 |
cubezzz | interpreter ... stolen." | Oct 27 18:46 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: yes | Oct 27 18:46 |
cubezzz | so right from the very beginning... | Oct 27 18:46 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS.html | Oct 27 18:46 |
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cubezzz | in a way the internet itself is going to defeat Microsoft | Oct 27 18:47 |
Diablo-D3 | the internet wont defeat it | Oct 27 18:48 |
Diablo-D3 | it will simply route around it | Oct 27 18:48 |
schestowitz | Eeeek. http://www.miranda-im.org/download/ | Oct 27 18:48 |
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schestowitz | GPL WIndows-only | Oct 27 18:48 |
schestowitz | Meh. | Oct 27 18:48 |
schestowitz | http://www.miranda-im.org/download/ | Oct 27 18:48 |
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schestowitz | No wonder I never heard of it | Oct 27 18:48 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Seca... | Oct 27 18:48 | |
schestowitz | They should port to other platforms for wider acceptance | Oct 27 18:49 |
cubezzz | does Van Wensveen come here? | Oct 27 18:49 |
schestowitz | Nope | Oct 27 18:49 |
schestowitz | He was on COLA (USENET) for a long time | Oct 27 18:49 |
cubezzz | ok, just curious | Oct 27 18:49 |
schestowitz | That's where I know him from | Oct 27 18:49 |
cubezzz | nobody seems to remember that little PDP-10 trick BillG did, but I guess it's ancient history now | Oct 27 18:50 |
wallc | Roy: "But mostly good news. Lots pro-Linux" - That's nice to know. Things have seemed pretty discouraging lately. | Oct 27 18:50 |
cubezzz | I've been looking at Fedora 11, and it's a mostly positive experience | Oct 27 18:51 |
cubezzz | lots of new educational programs for young ones | Oct 27 18:51 |
schestowitz | wallc: in what sense? | Oct 27 18:53 |
schestowitz | Vista 7 marketing? | Oct 27 18:54 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: I think kde 4.4 is out around January, just after F12 | Oct 27 18:54 |
cubezzz | it's the main stream media's fault, all this windows 7 on the news | Oct 27 18:54 |
cubezzz | Walter Cronkite would _not_ approve :) | Oct 27 18:54 |
schestowitz | Maybe Fedora will move to kde now with the licensing and all.... | Oct 27 18:54 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: was the same with Vista.... | Oct 27 18:55 |
schestowitz | It means nothing. | Oct 27 18:55 |
cubezzz | in fact, I can remember when the news didn't have ads inside it | Oct 27 18:55 |
schestowitz | People don't buy new PCs.... | Oct 27 18:55 |
wallc | Well, I spent some time this week on the Ubuntu forums and the Windows 7 people were rather noisy. | Oct 27 18:55 |
schestowitz | wallc: it's the Release Zoo(R) | Oct 27 18:55 |
schestowitz | They do it in USENET newsgroups too | Oct 27 18:55 |
schestowitz | "buzz marketing' | Oct 27 18:55 |
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wallc | as in, Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my? | Oct 27 18:55 |
schestowitz | No | Oct 27 18:56 |
schestowitz | Off-topicking | Oct 27 18:56 |
schestowitz | Distract people away from Ubuntu in their own back yard | Oct 27 18:56 |
schestowitz | !google microsoft crashes ps3 parties | Oct 27 18:56 |
phIRCe-local | [1] - Sony Crashes Microsoft's Netflix Party: The PS3 Gets Streaming ... | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-sony-crashes-microsofts-netflix-party-the-ps3-gets-streaming-too/ | Oct 27 18:56 |
phIRCe-local | [2] - Microsoft Crash PS3 Launch Party In France - Gameworld Network ... | http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/11831/Microsoft_Crash_PS3_Launch_Party_In_France.html | Oct 27 18:56 |
phIRCe-local | [3] - YouTube - Playstation 3 shows up at launch. | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D6TibCr6ktcs | Oct 27 18:56 |
phIRCe-local | [4] - MicroMiel » Blog Archive » XBox 360 Crashes PS3 Party | http://micromiel.com/2007/03/24/xbox-360-crashes-ps3-party/ | Oct 27 18:56 |
wallc | I know, I had a couple of conversations (if you could call it that) with some of them, they pretty much make a person feel overwhelmed | Oct 27 18:57 |
cubezzz | Baum would not approve :) | Oct 27 18:57 |
schestowitz | The best thing to do is ignore and praise GNU/Linux | Oct 27 18:57 |
cubezzz | anyway Baum is pre-computer :) | Oct 27 18:57 |
schestowitz | That's what I do mostly | Oct 27 18:57 |
wallc | I think they do that to (maybe?) discourage the new users. | Oct 27 18:57 |
schestowitz | The rest can be spent unspinning | Oct 27 18:57 |
schestowitz | wallc: yes | Oct 27 18:57 |
schestowitz | There's a big release coming up | Oct 27 18:57 |
schestowitz | 9.10 | Oct 27 18:57 |
schestowitz | wallc: it's not just you | Oct 27 18:58 |
schestowitz | I got mail about it from others | Oct 27 18:58 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu Forums 0wn3d | Oct 27 18:58 |
schestowitz | At least the "Mono boosters" I was told about have quieted down | Oct 27 18:58 |
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schestowitz | And 9.10 has no banshee | Oct 27 18:58 |
wallc | One of the reasons I was there was to look some things up for other people, I never send my friends to the Ubu-forums anymore, I just look things up for them. | Oct 27 18:58 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] The Free Technology Academy (FTA) launched and offering courses on #FOSS and #openstandards onhttp://www.ftacademy.org/announce/2 | Oct 27 18:58 | |
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schestowitz | mepis forums are good, I hear. | Oct 27 18:59 |
schestowitz | But need reg | Oct 27 18:59 |
wallc | I'm hoping things will change soon, I used to enjoy the Ubu-forums | Oct 27 18:59 |
wallc | I never had much luck with mepis. | Oct 27 18:59 |
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wallc | Anyway, the Windows 7 cheerleading seemed a little sad to me. | Oct 27 19:00 |
wallc | discouraging | Oct 27 19:00 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Here is a good example of misuse of the open source label (it's not an API) http://ping.fm/5HduG | Oct 27 19:00 | |
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schestowitz | This is the only posts I've found about V7 parties: http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/10/why_was_the_ope.html;jsessionid=2UUW2P50TB4GRQE1GHPSKHWATMY32JVN | Oct 27 19:01 |
cubezzz | "Allchin's revelations came as no great surprise. Part of the source code to Windows 2000 had been leaked onto the Internet before, and pretty it was not." | Oct 27 19:01 |
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schestowitz | wallc: that's the intent | Oct 27 19:01 |
schestowitz | Demoralisation | Oct 27 19:01 |
schestowitz | THis was done before when Wal-mart did their thing | Oct 27 19:01 |
schestowitz | And with sub-notebooks | Oct 27 19:01 |
schestowitz | The Slog: http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf | Oct 27 19:02 |
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schestowitz | ""Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in, "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2." Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. Make the complete failure of the competition's technology part of the mythology of the computer industry." | Oct 27 19:02 |
cubezzz | Meritocracy ftw | Oct 27 19:02 |
schestowitz | "We want to place selection pressure on those companies and individuals that show a genetic weakness for competitors' technologies, to make the industry increasingly resistant to such unhealthy strains, over time."" | Oct 27 19:02 |
wallc | I know, it doesn't discourage me from using the software I use, but I hate thinking about other people (like my family and friends) being subjected to the Win7 garbage | Oct 27 19:02 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu should watch out for AstroTurf | Oct 27 19:03 |
schestowitz | They are a prime target for those | Oct 27 19:03 |
schestowitz | Microsoft would target the place (audience) that considers defecting away from win32 | Oct 27 19:03 |
schestowitz | They don't need to do this in WIndows site | Oct 27 19:03 |
schestowitz | I.e. preaching to the choir | Oct 27 19:03 |
cubezzz | my family is way too cheap to spring for win7, plus their computers are too old | Oct 27 19:03 |
schestowitz | "I'd put the Linux phenomenon really as threat No. 1." Steve Ballmer, 2001 | Oct 27 19:04 |
wallc | I know enough to spot the "spin", but if one doesn't look too close) sometimes the junk they post can make sense to newbies | Oct 27 19:04 |
schestowitz | There are already fake reviews | Oct 27 19:04 |
schestowitz | Like the ones Belkin paid for | Oct 27 19:04 |
schestowitz | THere are agencies that break the law like this | Oct 27 19:04 |
wallc | or at least make newbies doubt what they've heard otherwise. | Oct 27 19:04 |
schestowitz | And I heard that VIsta 7 fake reviews are posted massively, just as many were posted about VIsts | Oct 27 19:05 |
schestowitz | Vista got excellent fake reviews in first few months...... | Oct 27 19:05 |
wallc | I did have to laugh a few times when I got called a "fanboy"...lol | Oct 27 19:05 |
schestowitz | !google belkin astroturf | Oct 27 19:05 |
phIRCe-local | [1] - Belkin, Astroturfing and Fully Owning Your Mistakes | http://www.darrenbarefoot.com/archives/2009/01/belkin-astroturfing-and-fully-owning-your-mistakes.html | Oct 27 19:05 |
phIRCe-local | [2] - LXer: Caught Astroturfing: Bad Belkin Bayard Business.. | http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/114965/index.html | Oct 27 19:05 |
phIRCe-local | [3] - Belkin paying 65 cents for good reviews on NewEgg and Amazon? | http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/01/17/belkin-paying-65-cents-for-good-reviews-on-newegg-and-amazon/ | Oct 27 19:05 |
phIRCe-local | [4] - The Daily Background » Exclusive: Belkin's Development Rep is ... | http://www.thedailybackground.com/2009/01/16/exclusive-belkins-development-rep-is-hiring-people-to-write-fake-positive-amazon-reviews/ | Oct 27 19:05 |
cubezzz | "CompanyX recommends WIndows 7" | Oct 27 19:05 |
cubezzz | has that started yet? :) | Oct 27 19:05 |
schestowitz | "Fanboy" is used by Microsoft people | Oct 27 19:05 |
wallc | And I DO believe they are protesting too much about Win 7 being "different" from Vista | Oct 27 19:05 |
schestowitz | We rarely talk of "Windows fanboys" | Oct 27 19:06 |
schestowitz | Cause it's their term | Oct 27 19:06 |
cubezzz | uh | Oct 27 19:06 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes it did | Oct 27 19:06 |
schestowitz | All fake | Oct 27 19:06 |
cubezzz | yeah we talk about Astro-turfers instead :) | Oct 27 19:06 |
schestowitz | “<vendor> recommends Windows” is an paid-for advert, not a recommendation http://boycottnovell.com/2008/12/01/leaked-oem-vista-ad-incentives/ | Oct 27 19:07 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "awww!" story of the day http://is.gd/4EFWD | Oct 27 19:07 | |
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wallc | argh...phone's ringing, and work is looming large here...lunch time is over (apparently) :) | Oct 27 19:11 |
wallc | back later... | Oct 27 19:11 |
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cubezzz | Just once I like to see "CompanyX recommends Linux" | Oct 27 19:11 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @davidgerard if he was born on a plane he'd be called AIrbus | Oct 27 19:11 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] ahahahahahahahaha #nickgriffin http://is.gd/4EGln | Oct 27 19:12 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] PortableApps used to be about Free software, but now they do proprietary... http://ping.fm/u9765 | Oct 27 19:13 | |
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schestowitz | cubezzz: why would they recommend anything? | Oct 27 19:14 |
schestowitz | Like with doctors... kickbacks | Oct 27 19:14 |
cubezzz | you have a good point | Oct 27 19:15 |
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schestowitz | _goblin: http://is.gd/4EGln | Oct 27 19:16 |
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schestowitz | Just posted by David | Oct 27 19:16 |
_goblin | hi roy, | Oct 27 19:17 |
cubezzz | no one pays me money to recommend Linux but I still do :) | Oct 27 19:17 |
_goblin | I was fuming at Nick Griffin being on TV....what a disgusting man. | Oct 27 19:18 |
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schestowitz | _goblin: I'd have to view it.. | Oct 27 19:18 |
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schestowitz | Let me fire up YT | Oct 27 19:18 |
_goblin | Mr Griffin makes me embarassed to be a white British male. | Oct 27 19:19 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ykYkhIlrmk | Oct 27 19:19 |
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schestowitz | Here's the actual thing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iKfrY9l2kY&feature=PlayList&p=D8FCDFA8BB586E20&index=0&playnext=1 | Oct 27 19:21 |
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cubezzz | ah, I see Sheevaplugs on ebay | Oct 27 19:22 |
schestowitz | They go for about a tenner at wal-mart, don't they? | Oct 27 19:24 |
schestowitz | Who's hungry? Got some FUUD :-) http://www.ddj.com/linux-open-source/220800130 | Oct 27 19:25 |
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Diablo-D3 | so this is nice | Oct 27 19:25 |
Diablo-D3 | I now have 75% of a script | Oct 27 19:25 |
Diablo-D3 | that syncs backgrounds across desktops | Oct 27 19:25 |
_goblin | Lefty has commented on my blog | Oct 27 19:27 |
_goblin | and linked to BN in his handle | Oct 27 19:27 |
schestowitz | Don't feed that bunch | Oct 27 19:27 |
schestowitz | Just don't give them any attention | Oct 27 19:27 |
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_goblin | I think this is where you and I disagree Roy....I believe they should be challenged and exposed. | Oct 27 19:27 |
schestowitz | It would distract us and encourage them to troll | Oct 27 19:28 |
schestowitz | Them=David+nym | Oct 27 19:28 |
_goblin | since they base their arguments off abuse/censorship and FUD, they can't argue back....they get exposed like Nick Griffin did! | Oct 27 19:28 |
schestowitz | ANd some Novell/Mono folks who look for anti-BN vanom | Oct 27 19:28 |
schestowitz | It's like linsuc | Oct 27 19:28 |
schestowitz | *linsux | Oct 27 19:28 |
schestowitz | _goblin: it's not good use of energy | Oct 27 19:29 |
schestowitz | It's better to look at the issues | Oct 27 19:29 |
schestowitz | Linsux et al are juvenile | Oct 27 19:30 |
schestowitz | Personal attack and libel... like saying I was hospitalised and stuff (lies) | Oct 27 19:30 |
schestowitz | We need to look at Linux, Microsoft, Novell, that sort of stuff | Oct 27 19:30 |
schestowitz | Not people, not events as much | Oct 27 19:30 |
schestowitz | ideas rather | Oct 27 19:30 |
schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iuRIVBTLUvW7823FC-fcfhvkSxHgD9BHLF180 | Oct 27 19:31 |
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schestowitz | Hehe. WEIRD headline: http://www.9and10news.com/category/story/?id=179245 | Oct 27 19:32 |
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_goblin | schestowitz: I just think that maybe a non-defence is worse in that it allows inference to be drawn by the trolls.... | Oct 27 19:32 |
schestowitz | I've been trolled for years. I learned that it's better not to even read, let alone respond | Oct 27 19:33 |
Diablo-D3 | to internet is to troll, no? | Oct 27 19:33 |
schestowitz | I don't know what they're up to. I killfile and keep happy writing about the issues | Oct 27 19:33 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: to troll is to step in someone else's Turf to abuse | Oct 27 19:34 |
schestowitz | To express an opinion is not, assuming it's done without interfering | Oct 27 19:34 |
schestowitz | I don't comment in Novell/mOno blogs | Oct 27 19:34 |
schestowitz | I practice freedom of speech in a place where people know in advance that Novell is criticised | Oct 27 19:35 |
schestowitz | That's not trolling, no more that the labour Web site is 'trolling' the Tories | Oct 27 19:35 |
schestowitz | /that/than/ | Oct 27 19:35 |
phIRCe-local | That's not trolling, no more that the labour Web site is 'trolling' the Tories | Oct 27 19:36 |
phIRCe-local | /that/than/ | Oct 27 19:36 |
schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/10/open-source | Oct 27 19:37 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Nations First Open Source Election Software Released | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 77.31 KB | Oct 27 19:37 |
schestowitz | Lots of good news out there about Drupal in the White House | Oct 27 19:37 |
schestowitz | Hmmmm... trmanco, bug in phIRCe-local | Oct 27 19:37 |
schestowitz | /that/than/ | Oct 27 19:37 |
trmanco | don't know why | Oct 27 19:38 |
schestowitz | Can't reproduce the bug | Oct 27 19:38 |
*schestowitz looks at log file | Oct 27 19:38 | |
trmanco | there isn't nothing there | Oct 27 19:38 |
schestowitz | I like the module part | Oct 27 19:40 |
schestowitz | Maybe you'll get 10,000 community modules for it one day | Oct 27 19:40 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] i can't see this happening until sydney actually sinks http://is.gd/4EIqY | Oct 27 19:40 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: Australians could be banned from living on the coast - Telegraph .::. Size~: 59.71 KB | Oct 27 19:40 |
schestowitz | If irc becomes a wave killlllah! | Oct 27 19:41 |
trmanco | lol | Oct 27 19:41 |
trmanco | 10 000 uh | Oct 27 19:41 |
schestowitz | WordPress has like 6000 IIRC | Oct 27 19:42 |
schestowitz | IRC-Nuke | Oct 27 19:42 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard i can't see this happening until sydney actually sinks http://is.gd/4EIqY | Oct 27 19:42 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: Australians could be banned from living on the coast - Telegraph .::. Size~: 59.71 KB | Oct 27 19:42 |
schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Native-C-port-of-Tor-for-Android-Update-838967.html | Oct 27 19:52 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Native C port of Tor for Android - Update - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 32.35 KB | Oct 27 19:52 |
schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/10/portableapps_ad.html;jsessionid=J3DGX5UDI4ONVQE1GHOSKHWATMY32JVN | Oct 27 19:55 |
phIRCe-local | Title: PortableApps Adds Non-Open Source Apps, Sort Of - Open Source Blog - InformationWeek .::. Size~: 81.54 KB | Oct 27 19:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,26262921-24169,00.html open-source as "user feedback" | Oct 27 20:02 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Technology News | IT News | Australian IT .::. Size~: 44.81 KB | Oct 27 20:03 |
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schestowitz | Ignorance "Microsoft packages still power 90% of the world's computers " http://www.lovemoney.com/news/manage-your-finances/run-your-pc-for-free-4093.aspx | Oct 27 20:07 |
schestowitz | What is Microsoft packages and since when are only desktops "computers"? | Oct 27 20:08 |
schestowitz | Mytha again | Oct 27 20:08 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Truth about #Bush http://ur1.ca/ekq4 | Oct 27 20:09 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Microsoft #Windows #Vista #Fail http://ur1.ca/ekqj | Oct 27 20:09 | |
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_goblin | o2 has been rather dodgy this week...dns connection errors... | Oct 27 20:22 |
schestowitz | Back to the future: The power of open source - " In a new business TV show available to watch for free, Bob Young explains open source and how it relates to business." http://www.traveldailynews.com/pages/show_page/33677-Back-to-the-future:-The-power-of-open-source | Oct 27 20:23 |
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schestowitz | _goblin: try opendns | Oct 27 20:24 |
_goblin | yeah I keep meaning to.... | Oct 27 20:24 |
_goblin | been trying to watch Stargate Universe and come back to connection probs........SG Universe is godawful.;. | Oct 27 20:24 |
_goblin | its got the "shakey cameraman syndrome" ruins the show for me. | Oct 27 20:25 |
schestowitz | http://www.bit-tech.net/news/bits/2009/10/27/ico-reveals-356-breaches-last-year/1 | Oct 27 20:27 |
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schestowitz | _goblin: what distro are you on atm? | Oct 27 20:27 |
schestowitz | crb? wolvix? | Oct 27 20:28 |
schestowitz | Cause setting up opendns is simple | Oct 27 20:28 |
schestowitz | Just enter the other IP addresses | Oct 27 20:28 |
_goblin | Wolvix on main rig.......Chakra on distro hop machine ......Mandriva is on a few of my other PC's and a custom Ubuntu 8.04 | Oct 27 20:28 |
schestowitz | 208.67.222.222 | Oct 27 20:28 |
schestowitz | 208.67.220.220 | Oct 27 20:28 |
_goblin | cheers.. | Oct 27 20:28 |
_goblin | Ill give a go. | Oct 27 20:28 |
schestowitz | That ought to do as DNS servers | Oct 27 20:29 |
_goblin | cheers and as if by magic!!! back to normality! | Oct 27 20:31 |
_goblin | Ive been meaning to do that for a while.... | Oct 27 20:33 |
schestowitz | I did too take months to do it | Oct 27 20:42 |
schestowitz | Procrastination, hoping things would sort themselves out | Oct 27 20:42 |
schestowitz | v | Oct 27 20:43 |
schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/10/26/Shonen-Knife | Oct 27 20:43 |
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schestowitz | Vegetarian diet is better for the planet, says Lord Stern http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/oct/26/palm-oil-initiative-carbon-emissions Hmmmmmmmmm.... | Oct 27 20:47 |
schestowitz | Radovan Karadzic boycotts opening of war crimes trial http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/26/radovan-karadzic-war-crimes-trial | Oct 27 20:48 |
_goblin | Amazing how easy it was to do in all the distro's......... | Oct 27 20:55 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=5129&tag=col1;post-5129 | Oct 27 20:55 |
schestowitz | _goblin: WOT?????????? No command line? | Oct 27 20:56 |
_goblin | lol...I did 7 machines in 3mins | Oct 27 21:04 |
_goblin | no cli | Oct 27 21:04 |
schestowitz | 7?? | Oct 27 21:04 |
schestowitz | Yikes | Oct 27 21:04 |
schestowitz | You have 7? | Oct 27 21:04 |
_goblin | yeah I have 7 machines around the house | Oct 27 21:04 |
schestowitz | Did you set up a party too? | Oct 27 21:04 |
_goblin | lol | Oct 27 21:04 |
schestowitz | VIsta 7 | Oct 27 21:04 |
_goblin | nobody came....they thought I was promoting windows | Oct 27 21:04 |
schestowitz | How about a Boycott Novell Party (BNP)? :-p | Oct 27 21:04 |
schestowitz | _goblin: oh, they sent you a pack? | Oct 27 21:04 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | Oct 27 21:04 |
_goblin | flogged it on Ebay.... | Oct 27 21:05 |
schestowitz | Haha. | Oct 27 21:05 |
_goblin | got £4 for it | Oct 27 21:05 |
schestowitz | Like many others | Oct 27 21:05 |
schestowitz | _goblin: right price | Oct 27 21:05 |
_goblin | I would have got more but Ballmer had signed it which reduced the price. | Oct 27 21:05 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | Oct 27 21:05 |
MinceR | :) | Oct 27 21:05 |
schestowitz | You could get 7 quid for it | Oct 27 21:06 |
_goblin | On a serious note, I have a scan of ballmer sig.....Im thinking of using it for the new OB....."I support Openbytes" signed Steve Ballmer. | Oct 27 21:06 |
_goblin | on the OB logo | Oct 27 21:06 |
schestowitz | Here is the SCO party; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ3bpCh4kTk | Oct 27 21:07 |
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schestowitz | Watch what they do to their 'packs' | Oct 27 21:07 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhtjCWwSqmU&NR=1 | Oct 27 21:07 |
phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Haxorcise SCO at CCC2007 (discours) .::. Size~: 103.69 KB | Oct 27 21:07 |
_goblin | only 3seconds? | Oct 27 21:08 |
schestowitz | I can't find the full thing now | Oct 27 21:09 |
schestowitz | They burned the packs | Oct 27 21:09 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbU5419NBg8 | Oct 27 21:09 |
phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - UNIX Won't Die (Part 1) .::. Size~: 111.56 KB | Oct 27 21:09 |
schestowitz | SCO used to not be anti-Linux | Oct 27 21:09 |
schestowitz | They were like Sun to Linux | Oct 27 21:09 |
schestowitz | Then came McChubby | Oct 27 21:09 |
cubezzz | right, I remember that | Oct 27 21:11 |
cubezzz | SCO Unix System V, but that was a different SCO | Oct 27 21:11 |
cubezzz | they were pretty helpful too, their tech support | Oct 27 21:11 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #WhiteHouse Dumps #Microsoft #Windows for #GNU #Linux http://ping.fm/NlO4Y http://ping.fm/QFFYi | Oct 27 21:11 | |
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_goblin | a little offensive but a great video echoing public feeling about Microsoft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3XdOl5YtLg&feature=PlayList&p=5EBFDCCAD17047B2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21 | Oct 27 21:11 |
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phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Adolf Ballmer .::. Size~: 151.23 KB | Oct 27 21:11 |
_goblin | a better one: http://tinyurl.com/yfdgh8u (less offensive) | Oct 27 21:14 |
phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Windows Swastika .::. Size~: 151.95 KB | Oct 27 21:14 |
schestowitz | _goblin: http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/advertising_search/microsoft_dumps_family_guy.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535 | Oct 27 21:15 |
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schestowitz | Microsoft Nick | Oct 27 21:15 |
_goblin | yeah I saw that..... | Oct 27 21:15 |
schestowitz | Not Joe | Oct 27 21:15 |
_goblin | that had no choice... | Oct 27 21:15 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Acho que vou apanhar um overdose de bolachas e leite... | Oct 27 21:15 | |
schestowitz | _goblin: based on E-mails, Ballmer is not the most aggressive | Oct 27 21:16 |
schestowitz | He's just the crazy one | Oct 27 21:16 |
schestowitz | It's people like Gates and Silverberg who should be put on trial, for personal actions, not the company's | Oct 27 21:16 |
_goblin | I get the feeling he is a real nasty piece of work behind closed doors. | Oct 27 21:17 |
_goblin | he's the chemical ali of the operation....IMO | Oct 27 21:17 |
schestowitz | _goblin: let me find you s/t | Oct 27 21:17 |
schestowitz | !google ballmer youtube i'm a pc | Oct 27 21:17 |
phIRCe-local | [1] - YouTube - Steve Ballmer I'm a PC Microsoft AD | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DlVMy0PFr8no | Oct 27 21:17 |
phIRCe-local | [2] - Ballmer: "The Internet Was Designed For The PC. The Internet Is ... | http://macblips.dailyradar.com/story/ballmer-the-internet-was-designed-for-the-pc-the/ | Oct 27 21:17 |
phIRCe-local | [3] - Steve Ballmer Goes Nuts (Again) To Sell Windows | http://digg.com/microsoft/Steve_Ballmer_Goes_Nuts_Again_To_Sell_Windows | Oct 27 21:17 |
phIRCe-local | [4] - Remarks by Steve Ballmer, CEO on Microsoft Windows 7 Launch New ... | http://www.rushprnews.com/2009/10/22/remarks-by-steve-ballmer-ceo-of-microsoft-windows-7-launch-new-york-oct-22-20 | Oct 27 21:17 |
schestowitz | He's MAD! | Oct 27 21:17 |
cubezzz | Gates is nasty | Oct 27 21:18 |
cubezzz | so is Ballmer | Oct 27 21:18 |
schestowitz | Gates at least smiles | Oct 27 21:18 |
cubezzz | they were even nasty towards each other | Oct 27 21:18 |
schestowitz | Just to the cameras though | Oct 27 21:18 |
schestowitz | The cameras that he thinks reach the public, not the other ones | Oct 27 21:18 |
schestowitz | !google youtube gates deposition greatest hits | Oct 27 21:18 |
phIRCe-local | [1] - YouTube - Gates Deposition Greatest Hits | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeKcPx2jD5to | Oct 27 21:18 |
phIRCe-local | [2] - YouTube: Bill Gates | http://www.dipity.com/timetube/YouTube_Bill_Gates | Oct 27 21:18 |
phIRCe-local | [3] - Incorrect Pleasures | http://incorrectpleasures.blogspot.com/ | Oct 27 21:18 |
phIRCe-local | [4] - Silobreaker: Google: YouTube to be profitable soon | http://www.silobreaker.com/google-youtube-to-be-profitable-soon-5_2262671892034879496 | Oct 27 21:18 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, but... | Oct 27 21:19 |
_goblin | Beaten by personal record.....1100 unique ip's in the space of 4 hours. | Oct 27 21:19 |
_goblin | *my | Oct 27 21:19 |
schestowitz | Prisoner of Redmond: Yet Another Way Paul Allen Isn t Like You or Me | Oct 27 21:20 |
schestowitz | ,----[ Quote ] | Oct 27 21:20 |
schestowitz | | During one of those last long nights working to deliver DOS 2.0 in early | Oct 27 21:20 |
schestowitz | | 1983, I am told that Paul Allen heard Gates and Ballmer discussing his health | Oct 27 21:20 |
schestowitz | | and talking about how to get his Microsoft shares back if Allen were to die. | Oct 27 21:20 |
schestowitz | `---- | Oct 27 21:20 |
schestowitz | http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2006/pulpit_20060330_000890.html | Oct 27 21:20 |
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schestowitz | _goblin: the review? | Oct 27 21:20 |
_goblin | yeah | Oct 27 21:21 |
cubezzz | I wonder how Gates and Allen get along | Oct 27 21:22 |
schestowitz | _goblin: good, who links to it? | Oct 27 21:22 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: I doubt they talk much | Oct 27 21:22 |
_goblin | tuxmachines and distrowatch | Oct 27 21:22 |
schestowitz | Ellison and Gates don't talk | Oct 27 21:22 |
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schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssX4RL24HT4 | Oct 27 21:23 |
cubezzz | somehow I don't think Gates has many friends | Oct 27 21:23 |
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schestowitz | cubezzz: he has Warren | Oct 27 21:23 |
schestowitz | Just the rich elites | Oct 27 21:23 |
schestowitz | Bilderfriends :-) | Oct 27 21:23 |
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schestowitz | The Kisssinger secret group :-) | Oct 27 21:23 |
schestowitz | BIllG: | Oct 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | " | Oct 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | People I know (a rich group I admit) are getting ipods with thousands of songs on them. | Oct 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | Herb Allen has given dozens of his friends I pods with thousands of songs (he bought them). | Oct 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | Warren Buffett just loves the thing. | Oct 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | " | Oct 27 21:24 |
schestowitz | From http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/31/bill-gates-wants-patented-stuff/ | Oct 27 21:24 |
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schestowitz | What's the story with French BTW? | Oct 27 21:25 |
_goblin | theres got to be something wrong, My youngest is on my lap and settling down to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGywo81G6lk | Oct 27 21:25 |
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schestowitz | It this a typical middle name? | Oct 27 21:25 |
cubezzz | when Gates went on WNED and talked about education and didn't even mention Wikipedia I was extremely disappointed | Oct 27 21:25 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | Oct 27 21:26 |
schestowitz | Winntroll | Oct 27 21:26 |
_goblin | lol | Oct 27 21:26 |
schestowitz | Gary Stewart and "Hadrron" have a euniion | Oct 27 21:26 |
schestowitz | *reunion | Oct 27 21:26 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: I saw this 20 mins ago | Oct 27 21:27 |
schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hbgrCIW2skw4GNHrYBvgFyMoXVVwD9BI5SK00 | Oct 27 21:27 |
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schestowitz | " | Oct 27 21:27 |
schestowitz | THE INFLUENCE GAME: Bill Gates sways govt dollars | Oct 27 21:27 |
schestowitz | The real secretary of education, the joke goes, is Bill Gates. | Oct 27 21:27 |
schestowitz | The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has been the biggest player by far in the school reform movement, spending around $200 million a year on grants to elementary and secondary education. | Oct 27 21:27 |
schestowitz | " | Oct 27 21:27 |
cubezzz | US senators are always kissing Gates' butt | Oct 27 21:27 |
cubezzz | "What should we do Mr Gates?" | Oct 27 21:27 |
schestowitz | Gates is in the business of lobbying and governance at the moment. He can better advance Microsoft this way. | Oct 27 21:27 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, also on economics | Oct 27 21:28 |
schestowitz | They don't ask professors | Oct 27 21:28 |
schestowitz | But they know where kickbacks come from | Oct 27 21:28 |
cubezzz | not very encouraging | Oct 27 21:28 |
schestowitz | I've begun watching more closely his globalisation-with-patents-crusade | Oct 27 21:28 |
schestowitz | The guy began coming from a family that does such stuff | Oct 27 21:29 |
schestowitz | As an accountant -- not a programmer -- using his friends to gain power by taking other people's ideas and then breaking laws to spread them | Oct 27 21:29 |
schestowitz | That's all history | Oct 27 21:29 |
schestowitz | THey are busy rewriting it now | Oct 27 21:29 |
schestowitz | http://blog.kapor.com/ | Oct 27 21:30 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Mitch Kapor's Blog .::. Size~: 21.8 KB | Oct 27 21:30 |
schestowitz | He complained about MSBBC revisionism | Oct 27 21:30 |
schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7464074.stm | Oct 27 21:30 |
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schestowitz | LOL | Oct 27 21:30 |
schestowitz | There's a real crisis on democracy in the US and the UK is affected too | Oct 27 21:31 |
schestowitz | The country is run by monopolist/raiders | Oct 27 21:31 |
cubezzz | it seems that way | Oct 27 21:32 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] RT: LinuxPower Can Ubuntu Become the Default Alternative to Windows?: InternetNews: "With more than 8 million users..." http://bit.ly/3whD4l | Oct 27 21:33 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - Can Ubuntu Become the Default Alternative to Windows? .::. Size~: 78.35 KB | Oct 27 21:33 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Powermetal "Never-ending Story" by Dragonland ---Great stuff: http://tinyurl.com/yl6wpwr #metal | Oct 27 21:37 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Dragonland, Neverending Story .::. Size~: 135.84 KB | Oct 27 21:37 |
cubezzz | I think it's important to remember that even though a lot of bad things are happening, things today are much better than in the 80's | Oct 27 21:38 |
cubezzz | in the late 80's a complete SCO Unix System V with compiler tools cost about $1000 | Oct 27 21:39 |
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cubezzz | I think I'm going to switch computers | Oct 27 21:39 |
wallc | ok, i'm declaring today over (as a work day), i sent everyone home. | Oct 27 21:40 |
cubezzz | ok, pretty happy with Fedora 11 | Oct 27 21:40 |
cubezzz | y | Oct 27 21:40 |
cubezzz | oops | Oct 27 21:40 |
_goblin | I was too cubezzz | Oct 27 21:41 |
schestowitz | wallc: why? | Oct 27 21:42 |
wallc | because i felt like it...lol...it's good to be the boss sometimes :) | Oct 27 21:42 |
wallc | the work still gets done, everyone can work at home. i just get tired of listening to all the chatter sometimes. | Oct 27 21:44 |
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wallc | that's why i like IRC, it's quiet chatter. | Oct 27 21:45 |
schestowitz | Hehe | Oct 27 21:46 |
schestowitz | We can roar, too | Oct 27 21:46 |
schestowitz | mutex chooses ALL CAPS nyms | Oct 27 21:47 |
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DIABLO | mwaaaaaaaaahahahahha | Oct 27 21:47 |
cubezzz | don't like the new xchat | Oct 27 21:47 |
wallc | I know, but I can ignore the *noise* | Oct 27 21:47 |
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cubezzz | ? | Oct 27 21:47 |
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schestowitz | Something about "ROY", I think | Oct 27 21:47 |
TONY | LOL | Oct 27 21:47 |
TONY | :) | Oct 27 21:47 |
*schestowitz throws paper aeroplane across the office | Oct 27 21:47 | |
*TONY is now known as trmanco | Oct 27 21:47 | |
*trmanco catches it and throws it back | Oct 27 21:48 | |
wallc | wallc shoots it down | Oct 27 21:48 |
schestowitz | Now it hit wallc | Oct 27 21:48 |
schestowitz | Run away! | Oct 27 21:48 |
MinceR | 224540 [freenode] -!- Nick SEMAPHORE is already in use | Oct 27 21:48 |
MinceR | damn. | Oct 27 21:48 |
trmanco | LOL | Oct 27 21:48 |
wallc | i'm short, i don't even need to duck. :) | Oct 27 21:48 |
trmanco | omg | Oct 27 21:48 |
trmanco | nice nick | Oct 27 21:48 |
*schestowitz is now known as SteveBsChair | Oct 27 21:49 | |
*trmanco is now known as GATES | Oct 27 21:49 | |
*SteveBsChair wipres | Oct 27 21:49 | |
GATES | HELLO | Oct 27 21:49 |
SteveBsChair | You gonna hurt me? | Oct 27 21:49 |
GATES | no not really | Oct 27 21:49 |
SteveBsChair | :-o | Oct 27 21:49 |
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MinceR | it's the other way around, isn't it? :> | Oct 27 21:50 |
cubezzz | yikes, GATES has ops | Oct 27 21:50 |
GATES | LOOL | Oct 27 21:50 |
schestowitz | Robert Gates? | Oct 27 21:50 |
GATES | it time to shut down this channel... | Oct 27 21:50 |
GATES | :-P | Oct 27 21:50 |
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schestowitz | http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7589/1.html | Oct 27 21:51 |
schestowitz | wallc: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hbgrCIW2skw4GNHrYBvgFyMoXVVwD9BI5SK00 | Oct 27 21:51 |
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schestowitz | Sir BillG will educate your grandkids | Oct 27 21:52 |
schestowitz | With Clippy, probably | Oct 27 21:52 |
wallc | great, they'll love clippy...heh | Oct 27 21:52 |
schestowitz | He wants to be DG | Oct 27 21:52 |
schestowitz | Like B'liar | Oct 27 21:53 |
wallc | well, i figure the best way to get kids to ignore something is to make it part of school... | Oct 27 21:54 |
wallc | i remember absolutely nothing from school. | Oct 27 21:54 |
schestowitz | Yeah | Oct 27 21:54 |
schestowitz | Methods maybe | Oct 27 21:54 |
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schestowitz | "Education is what remains after one has forgotten everything he learned in school." Albert Einstein | Oct 27 21:55 |
schestowitz | How true | Oct 27 21:55 |
wallc | yep, that's the truth | Oct 27 21:55 |
schestowitz | I'm still disheartened by the whole "rich people take over US policy" | Oct 27 21:55 |
schestowitz | The govt is supposed to run for the people | Oct 27 21:55 |
schestowitz | Electors | Oct 27 21:56 |
schestowitz | Education is now used for indoctrination | Oct 27 21:56 |
schestowitz | Selective history | Oct 27 21:56 |
schestowitz | Each country won't teach about genocide that made its existence possible | Oct 27 21:56 |
wallc | i dunno, rich people taking over US policy has been going on since forever. | Oct 27 21:56 |
schestowitz | Just stories of heroism, preparation for the "real world" (industry with proprietary s/w and brand) and maybe military | Oct 27 21:57 |
schestowitz | Religious groups play part in this, too | Oct 27 21:57 |
schestowitz | They use education as their "adverts"... but the taxpayers pay for these adverts | Oct 27 21:57 |
wallc | it was that way when i was a kid. what i was taught about WWI & WWII in school, were totally different from what my parents remembered about them...my dad was in WWII | Oct 27 21:58 |
schestowitz | wallc: yeah.. :-( | Oct 27 21:58 |
schestowitz | Well, each country tells a different story, or just parts of it | Oct 27 21:58 |
voltronw | schestowitz: the killing and mistreatment of native americans was actually very central to my early history education | Oct 27 21:58 |
schestowitz | The 'convenient' or victorious parts | Oct 27 21:59 |
wallc | from talking to my own kids (and grandkids), i think they generally just learn how to give the answers the teachers want, and then forget the whole thing. | Oct 27 21:59 |
schestowitz | Training for being docile | Oct 27 22:00 |
schestowitz | For maths it's OK | Oct 27 22:00 |
schestowitz | Then there's stuff like philosophy | Oct 27 22:00 |
wallc | lol...none of my kids could ever be mistaken for "docile" | Oct 27 22:00 |
schestowitz | Relatively, maybe | Oct 27 22:00 |
schestowitz | But... | Oct 27 22:01 |
wallc | they grew up to be good people though (in spite of me :) | Oct 27 22:01 |
schestowitz | The system of early childhood is built so as to reward and advance those who comply the most | Oct 27 22:01 |
schestowitz | Maybe in adulthood too | Oct 27 22:01 |
schestowitz | Then there are experiments gone wrong | Oct 27 22:01 |
schestowitz | Like linsux folks.. BOTH of them | Oct 27 22:01 |
wallc | i guess it depends on what you mean by "complience" | Oct 27 22:01 |
schestowitz | I reckon with mutex back they would have a THREE stooges going | Oct 27 22:01 |
wallc | mutex was from linsux? | Oct 27 22:02 |
schestowitz | wallc: consent with priorities, agreeing with teachers, etc. | Oct 27 22:02 |
schestowitz | People are discouraged by peers | Oct 27 22:02 |
_goblin | I don't think the Mutex handle can be used again...after his behaviour the other day | Oct 27 22:02 |
schestowitz | There's also words like "chaff" that apply social pressure on people | Oct 27 22:03 |
schestowitz | *to | Oct 27 22:03 |
_goblin | EdavidBurg is another Lin%ux member who reposts messages from here and openly takes delight in trolling BN...He admitted it on the forum. | Oct 27 22:03 |
schestowitz | _goblin: he's here | Oct 27 22:03 |
*schestowitz sets ban on apac!*@* | Oct 27 22:03 | |
*schestowitz has kicked apac from #boycottnovell (User terminated!) | Oct 27 22:03 | |
schestowitz | Not anymore | Oct 27 22:03 |
_goblin | who Edavidburg? | Oct 27 22:03 |
schestowitz | apac is MUTEX | Oct 27 22:03 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @mpt Love Twitter, but hate the Web? Try Gopher instead. gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/fun/twitpher?mpt | Oct 27 22:03 | |
_goblin | ah | Oct 27 22:04 |
schestowitz | I wasn't paying attention | Oct 27 22:04 |
schestowitz | He'll never leave | Oct 27 22:04 |
cubezzz | well I watched Gates' deposition | Oct 27 22:04 |
cubezzz | very evasive | Oct 27 22:04 |
schestowitz | Did he sent thugs to beat up his investigator later? :-) | Oct 27 22:04 |
schestowitz | *send | Oct 27 22:04 |
wallc | why is he so persistant? | Oct 27 22:04 |
wallc | seems odd | Oct 27 22:05 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: he learned from his dad | Oct 27 22:05 |
_goblin | Ive called lefty out to answer questions for an article for my blog... | Oct 27 22:05 |
cubezzz | yeah Mutex is strange | Oct 27 22:05 |
schestowitz | And wallc just did an exhibit | Oct 27 22:05 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, I'm sure | Oct 27 22:05 |
schestowitz | It shows how he dodges the law | Oct 27 22:05 |
schestowitz | E-mails re Netscape | Oct 27 22:05 |
schestowitz | I'll hopefully post that tomorrow | Oct 27 22:05 |
schestowitz | 15-page exhibit | Oct 27 22:05 |
cubezzz | Mutex must be quite young, that's the only excuse I can think of | Oct 27 22:05 |
schestowitz | And push-poll | Oct 27 22:05 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: no, he claims to be about 50-60 | Oct 27 22:05 |
cubezzz | lol | Oct 27 22:06 |
_goblin | cubezzz: I used to think that, I think its more that he simply gets desperate. | Oct 27 22:06 |
schestowitz | Adult child | Oct 27 22:06 |
cubezzz | no way | Oct 27 22:06 |
cubezzz | well, that's a shame if that's true | Oct 27 22:06 |
_goblin | cubezzz: and has no morals or rules to live by. | Oct 27 22:06 |
schestowitz | Well.. | Oct 27 22:06 |
schestowitz | Maybe he has a story to tell the kids about hanging out in "linsux" | Oct 27 22:06 |
schestowitz | Anyhooo... | Oct 27 22:07 |
_goblin | in the future this will make a great book....the desperation of MS shills.... | Oct 27 22:07 |
schestowitz | Yes | Oct 27 22:07 |
schestowitz | They are possibly infecting Linux forums now | Oct 27 22:07 |
wallc | goblin, i was just thinking the same thing...a book would be very interesting. | Oct 27 22:07 |
schestowitz | THe startegy is to shift discussion to Vista 7 | Oct 27 22:07 |
_goblin | i read one recently about the US allowing bugged and sabotaged computers to be stolen by the USSR during the cold war. | Oct 27 22:07 |
schestowitz | THis way people forget they came to a Linux forum | Oct 27 22:08 |
wallc | not "possibly", it's happening a lot | Oct 27 22:08 |
cubezzz | I don't really understand how anyone could be really pro-microsoft | Oct 27 22:08 |
schestowitz | Books can't be x-refed so well | Oct 27 22:08 |
cubezzz | unless they were a stockholder | Oct 27 22:08 |
_goblin | money | Oct 27 22:08 |
schestowitz | Better eBook | Oct 27 22:08 |
schestowitz | With funny pics :-) | Oct 27 22:08 |
schestowitz | I know someone who can do good cartoons | Oct 27 22:08 |
wallc | cubezzz, it has to be money, otherwise such dogged persistence makes no sense | Oct 27 22:08 |
cubezzz | Microsoft employee's go: I'm neutral, I don't care, pfffff | Oct 27 22:08 |
wallc | cartoons? hmmm, who would that be??? | Oct 27 22:09 |
schestowitz | wallc: I have MANY friends :p | Oct 27 22:09 |
wallc | :) Yes, you do, indeed. | Oct 27 22:09 |
_goblin | schestowitz: The FTC report I have written, didn't get submitted to the FTC its been forwarded to another agency. The evidence I collated showed UK IP addresses committing offences such as threats to kill, incitement to cause racial hatred and several false representation issues. I'll keep you updated as to the outcome. | Oct 27 22:10 |
_goblin | it was not appropriate for the FTC under those circumstances and there are other issues at play which mean I obliged to forward it elsewhere. | Oct 27 22:11 |
schestowitz | _goblin: you too?? | Oct 27 22:11 |
_goblin | ? | Oct 27 22:11 |
schestowitz | nm | Oct 27 22:11 |
_goblin | if only you would engage in private chat Roy...... | Oct 27 22:12 |
schestowitz | FOSS is winning: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Qualcomm-QUIC/?kc=rss | Oct 27 22:12 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Qualcomm launches open source subsidiary - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 64.27 KB | Oct 27 22:12 |
schestowitz | Many jobs will be lost in some companies | Oct 27 22:12 |
schestowitz | _goblin: Cosata sort of vanished, no? | Oct 27 22:13 |
_goblin | he's about.... | Oct 27 22:13 |
schestowitz | Yeah. | Oct 27 22:13 |
schestowitz | I figures | Oct 27 22:13 |
schestowitz | *red | Oct 27 22:13 |
schestowitz | No more "Mr Dee" | Oct 27 22:13 |
cubezzz | ok, so Paul Allen sold a lot of Microsoft Shares | Oct 27 22:13 |
_goblin | he linked my blog in an effort to show diverse opinion on his MS shill site... | Oct 27 22:13 |
schestowitz | I also saw Matt Asay voted 2nd most influenntial in FOSS | Oct 27 22:13 |
_goblin | it may convince the FTC but I wasn't fooled. | Oct 27 22:13 |
schestowitz | I mailed him about "Mr Dee" | Oct 27 22:13 |
_goblin | you won't get an answer.... | Oct 27 22:14 |
schestowitz | And he's like "Aha!!!! I thought he was just annoying" | Oct 27 22:14 |
_goblin | he didn't like his 5 minutes of fame on BN... | Oct 27 22:14 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: Allen put lots of money in CNET | Oct 27 22:14 |
schestowitz | Which is infected with Microsoft PR people (blogs) and shills (comments) | Oct 27 22:14 |
schestowitz | Same in ZDNet | Oct 27 22:14 |
schestowitz | There's a whistleblower from Microsoft (source: Wired) | Oct 27 22:15 |
schestowitz | Now it's all CBS-owned | Oct 27 22:15 |
schestowitz | Still loaded with FOSS-hostile venom, naturally | Oct 27 22:15 |
schestowitz | [22:14] <_goblin> you won't get an answer.... | Oct 27 22:16 |
schestowitz | I did | Oct 27 22:16 |
schestowitz | Costa was harrassing Asay | Oct 27 22:16 |
schestowitz | Trolling his posts endlessly | Oct 27 22:16 |
schestowitz | Promoting Microsoft in the comments | Oct 27 22:16 |
schestowitz | Good RoI gotr MSFT | Oct 27 22:16 |
schestowitz | One laptop for a guy in a country where it's worth a lot | Oct 27 22:16 |
schestowitz | Gain: cr*pflood of MS PR in many sites | Oct 27 22:16 |
schestowitz | NYT could also be reported to the FTC. It would make it easier to make a conviction cause it's a company, not an individual | Oct 27 22:18 |
schestowitz | But NYT is debt saddled. it's said to be engaging with 'PR' for companies, meaning it may be helping companies gain some little Turfs if info I received is true. | Oct 27 22:18 |
schestowitz | Remember that NYT makes money this way.... PR/marketing. It's product is the audience it sells. NYT is not about informing people, it's about selling ads | Oct 27 22:19 |
schestowitz | *Its | Oct 27 22:19 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Next up for Openbytes XFCE 4 and SAM LINUX http://sam.hipsurfer.com/ #linux #foss | Oct 27 22:19 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: SAM Linux Desktop - Welcome .::. Size~: 7.61 KB | Oct 27 22:19 |
_goblin | Quote Andre "Oh my goodness, I just got my first MP3 player and I am in complete heaven with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" | Oct 27 22:24 |
_goblin | I wonder if that was another gift or he actually bought it. | Oct 27 22:25 |
*schestowitz removes channel operator status from schestowitz | Oct 27 22:25 | |
schestowitz | You can read b/w the lines | Oct 27 22:25 |
_goblin | I suppose next comes the "I love my Zune" | Oct 27 22:25 |
schestowitz | "The bit about installing Wine to use Spotify being too much bother sums up the whole article for me. He couldn't be bothered to do a fair, thorough review." http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/biased-bbc-review.-764339/?s=9ee144b130a4779032f94e803dfce3fc#post3732068 | Oct 27 22:26 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Biased BBC review. - LinuxQuestions.org .::. Size~: 70.22 KB | Oct 27 22:26 |
schestowitz | _goblin: what is Zune? ;-) | Oct 27 22:26 |
schestowitz | http://www.digwin.com/zune-zooms-off-online-retailers-shelves | Oct 27 22:27 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Zune Zooms Off Online Retailers' Shelves: digWin .::. Size~: 19.48 KB | Oct 27 22:27 |
_goblin | "Trying to install Windows 7 and it asks for a dvd/cd driver. Nothing in driver catalog (pioneer dvr-k17). Any help?" | Oct 27 22:27 |
_goblin | god I love Microsofthelps | Oct 27 22:27 |
schestowitz | Hehe. | Oct 27 22:27 |
_goblin | its like the one stop shop for everything wrong with Windows 7 | Oct 27 22:27 |
schestowitz | Can be called "WhatsBrokenInWindows" | Oct 27 22:27 |
schestowitz | Catalog of errors | Oct 27 22:28 |
schestowitz | Beat me to it ! | Oct 27 22:28 |
schestowitz | Microsoft simplified the task of tracking brokenness of its product line | Oct 27 22:28 |
_goblin | I should really put an RSS feed in my sidebar on my site for all the twits @microsofthelps | Oct 27 22:29 |
_goblin | would save me alot of typing. | Oct 27 22:29 |
schestowitz | http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2009/10/is-twitter-dying.html | Oct 27 22:29 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Lodahl's blog: Is Twitter dying? .::. Size~: 127.21 KB | Oct 27 22:29 |
schestowitz | Earlier today I saw that CHartshow TV now has a twitter account too | Oct 27 22:29 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Microsoft surrenders Windows perpetrators on television http://notnews.today.com/?p=702 | Oct 27 22:29 | |
schestowitz | Now TV shows as well... Gawd save us! | Oct 27 22:29 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft surrenders Windows perpetrators on television - News of the News .::. Size~: 33.76 KB | Oct 27 22:30 |
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schestowitz | wallc: http://lodahl.blogspot.com/2009/10/more-danish-municipalities-under-way.html | Oct 27 22:31 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Lodahl's blog: More Danish municipalities under way .::. Size~: 127.76 KB | Oct 27 22:31 |
schestowitz | That's why so much AstroTurfing | Oct 27 22:31 |
wallc | (reading now) | Oct 27 22:32 |
schestowitz | Office income down @ double-digit rates | Oct 27 22:32 |
schestowitz | With it, Windows income down over 40% | Oct 27 22:32 |
schestowitz | No Windows, no Office | Oct 27 22:32 |
schestowitz | No need for Office (OOo), no need for Windows | Oct 27 22:32 |
schestowitz | They try to keep people stuck in Office, thinking there's no lockin now. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8327399.stm | Oct 27 22:33 |
phIRCe-local | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 76.97 KB | Oct 27 22:33 |
*schestowitz sighs (mom sends videos by E-mail again, rather than post to Net and send link/s) | Oct 27 22:34 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Amazing #Touhou CGI shadow art http://ur1.ca/el44 | Oct 27 22:34 | |
wallc | I hope they stick with using OpenOffice in their schools and not let Microsoft badger them into accepting MS Office licenses | Oct 27 22:34 |
phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - 【Touhou】Bad Apple!! PV【Stylized Shadow Art】 .::. Size~: 141.94 KB | Oct 27 22:34 |
_goblin | total of 1204 in the last 6 or so hours now.....new daily record..... | Oct 27 22:34 |
schestowitz | wallc: maybe EDGI | Oct 27 22:35 |
schestowitz | _goblin: the review? | Oct 27 22:35 |
schestowitz | arch enthusiasts? | Oct 27 22:35 |
_goblin | yep and that doesn't include the hits to "Whats unique about Windows 7" | Oct 27 22:36 |
schestowitz | _goblin: http://danlynch.org/blog/2009/05/chakra/ | Oct 27 22:36 |
phIRCe-local | Title: First Look: Chakra Project Alpha 2 | Adventures In Open Source .::. Size~: 58.43 KB | Oct 27 22:36 |
_goblin | that article alone gets at least 70 new IP's every day.... | Oct 27 22:36 |
schestowitz | Dan reviewed it a while back | Oct 27 22:36 |
_goblin | yeah, I took Alpha 3 | Oct 27 22:36 |
schestowitz | KDE4 can make unknown distros look like cutting-edge | Oct 27 22:37 |
schestowitz | Competitive with OS X HAcks | Oct 27 22:37 |
schestowitz | GoblinX got it too | Oct 27 22:37 |
_goblin | oh and I got many emails of support for the pictures of Ballmer and Voldemort.....its regarded as quite a good find. | Oct 27 22:37 |
schestowitz | !google goblinx kde4 | Oct 27 22:37 |
phIRCe-local | [1] - GoblinX Project » The G:Standard 3.0 is Released | http://www.goblinx.com.br/en/%3Fp%3D1195 | Oct 27 22:37 |
phIRCe-local | [2] - GoblinX 3.0 Has KDE 4 - The G:Standard - Softpedia | http://news.softpedia.com/news/GoblinX-3-0-Has-KDE-4-123285.shtml | Oct 27 22:37 |
phIRCe-local | [3] - Linux Today - GoblinX 3.0 Has KDE 4 | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3%3Fltsn%3D2009-10-04-005-35-NW-RL | Oct 27 22:37 |
phIRCe-local | [4] - Links 05/10/2009: GoblinX 3.0 Chooses KDE 4, New Chumby Arrives ... | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/10/05/new-chumby-arrives/ | Oct 27 22:37 |
schestowitz | Heh. BN in [4] | Oct 27 22:37 |
_goblin | no relation, I promise... | Oct 27 22:37 |
_goblin | to GoblinX | Oct 27 22:38 |
cubezzz | evidently Iowa was the last hold-out in the anti-trust trial | Oct 27 22:38 |
_goblin | if there was it would be XFce | Oct 27 22:38 |
schestowitz | _goblin: Costa has a distro too | Oct 27 22:38 |
schestowitz | It's called Coaster | Oct 27 22:38 |
schestowitz | It won't boot | Oct 27 22:38 |
_goblin | lol | Oct 27 22:38 |
_goblin | it will boot....for a price. | Oct 27 22:38 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Eat y'self fitter. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/16739.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/530567.html | Oct 27 22:38 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: reddragdiva | Eat y'self fitter. .::. Size~: 28.03 KB | Oct 27 22:38 |
schestowitz | Well, you can write on it | Oct 27 22:38 |
phIRCe-local | Title: reddragdiva: Eat y'self fitter. .::. Size~: 18.78 KB | Oct 27 22:38 |
_goblin | it will do anything you tell it, aslong as you can bribe it. | Oct 27 22:39 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: Mississippi maybe | Oct 27 22:39 |
schestowitz | But no public docs | Oct 27 22:39 |
schestowitz | Comes put out the 'stuff' | Oct 27 22:39 |
schestowitz | The stash | Oct 27 22:39 |
schestowitz | Until Microsoft paid to Polk folks to take it down | Oct 27 22:39 |
schestowitz | "I am begging please let me win this MacBook Air, I am desperate for a laptop like this. I would appreciate it so much. If you let me win it I can even get additional links at popular websites where you can get to increase your readership. I want an Apple laptop so bad that I have gone as far as emailing Steve Jobs asking for a free MacBook Air, he replied with a polite ‘Sorry, but no’ Sent from my iPhone, LOL!. There are a | Oct 27 22:40 |
schestowitz | number of reasons I need this notebook, its slim design, my Dell Latitude 840c died on me in February, I like the look of Leopard and I am just desperate right now." | Oct 27 22:41 |
schestowitz | --Costa http://www.upstartblogger.com/free-mac-book-air-and-five-free-iphones | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | Stats for the last few hours: | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | distrowatch.com463 | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | tuxmachines.org/node/40648202 | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | stumbleupon.com/refer.php?url=http%3A…59 | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | distrowatch.com/table.php?distributio…15 | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=14 | Oct 27 22:41 |
MinceR | lol | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?…3 | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | distrowatch.com/index.php?language=DE3 | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | distrowatch.com/?newsid=057303 | Oct 27 22:41 |
schestowitz | Ah | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=43 | Oct 27 22:41 |
_goblin | stumbleupon.com/refer.php?url=http%3A… | Oct 27 22:41 |
schestowitz | DistroWatch | Oct 27 22:41 |
schestowitz | That's why | Oct 27 22:41 |
schestowitz | TuxMachines Effect is not that high | Oct 27 22:41 |
MinceR | :) | Oct 27 22:41 |
schestowitz | BN was features in DistroWatch too | Oct 27 22:42 |
_goblin | its not been posted long..... | Oct 27 22:42 |
_goblin | those stats are since 7pm. | Oct 27 22:42 |
schestowitz | Over a thousand clickthroughs IIRC | Oct 27 22:42 |
cubezzz | http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/06/ms_msft.html | Oct 27 22:42 |
schestowitz | Distrowatch criticised Groklaw | Oct 27 22:42 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Settles With Mississippi For $100 Million .::. Size~: 38.28 KB | Oct 27 22:42 |
cubezzz | probably old but... | Oct 27 22:42 |
*Lns has quit ("Φ") | Oct 27 22:43 | |
cubezzz | $40 cash and $60 in coupons | Oct 27 22:43 |
cubezzz | in millions | Oct 27 22:43 |
schestowitz | Coupons of what? | Oct 27 22:44 |
schestowitz | s/w or h/w | Oct 27 22:44 |
schestowitz | I wrote about it | Oct 27 22:44 |
schestowitz | But it's also h/w | Oct 27 22:44 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/26/mississippi-msft-settlement-2009/ | Oct 27 22:45 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/13/mississippi-vs-microsoft-settled/ | Oct 27 22:45 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Mississippi Paid up to $60 Million in Vouchers After Microsofts Violations of the Law | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 112.44 KB | Oct 27 22:45 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft to Pay $0.1 Billion to Settle Mississippi Case Against Its Crimes | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 127.51 KB | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | if anyones interested....articles for today... Chakra Alpha 3 - Review!1236 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | A question to Microsoft? Whats unique ab249 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | Ubuntu 9.10 - Karmic Koala34 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | Thumbs Up - Windows7themes.net24 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | Another Pro Microsoft user or an online24 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | ARTICLE: Lord of the Shills - A new week121 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | You know you have made it when.....103 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | REVIEW: PCLinuxOS 2009.249 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | Is there only one choice for the Linux n119 | Oct 27 22:45 |
_goblin | Are you getting a fix? - Its free you kn | Oct 27 22:45 |
schestowitz | There's a nww video in YouTube titled "Gandhi & Novell" | Oct 27 22:46 |
schestowitz | It's private though | Oct 27 22:46 |
schestowitz | So I can't view it | Oct 27 22:46 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, question for you. Do you know if any of the U.S. government and/or states use Linux? | Oct 27 22:47 |
cubezzz | or even non-microsoft software of any kind | Oct 27 22:48 |
schestowitz | LOL new and lame(ish): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEcPvy_-TAs | Oct 27 22:49 |
phIRCe-local | Title: YouTube - Novell CEO, Ron Hovsepian, endorses Moblin at the Intel Developer Forum .::. Size~: 106.73 KB | Oct 27 22:49 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: can't think of one | Oct 27 22:49 |
schestowitz | DOD doesn't count | Oct 27 22:50 |
schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hbgrCIW2skw4GNHrYBvgFyMoXVVwD9BI5SK00 | Oct 27 22:50 |
phIRCe-local | Title: The Associated Press: THE INFLUENCE GAME: Bill Gates sways govt dollars .::. Size~: 17.93 KB | Oct 27 22:50 |
*gargoyle-grin (n=randerso@gentoo/contributor/gargoyle-grin) has left #boycottnovell | Oct 27 22:53 | |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/40648 | Oct 27 22:56 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Chakra Alpha 3 – Review | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 21.74 KB | Oct 27 22:56 |
schestowitz | We didn't get any major links yesterday | Oct 27 22:56 |
schestowitz | Just regular readers | Oct 27 22:56 |
schestowitz | Half a million hits in 2 days | Oct 27 22:57 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, government of Canada uses some Linux servers | Oct 27 22:57 |
schestowitz | 528922 | Oct 27 22:57 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, I know | Oct 27 22:57 |
schestowitz | Toronto articles I have... | Oct 27 22:57 |
schestowitz | But that's "American", not "US" | Oct 27 22:57 |
cubezzz | true :) | Oct 27 22:58 |
schestowitz | White House moved to Linux | Oct 27 22:58 |
schestowitz | It's confirmed today | Oct 27 22:58 |
schestowitz | After Bush & Minions moved it to Windows+IIS | Oct 27 22:58 |
MinceR | their website, that is :> | Oct 27 22:58 |
cubezzz | well that's government use :) | Oct 27 22:58 |
cubezzz | something anyway | Oct 27 22:59 |
schestowitz | Yesterday we got 1200 visitors from Google search alone | Oct 27 22:59 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&c2coff=1&q=site%3Aschestowitz.com++canada&aq=f&oq=&aqi= | Oct 27 23:00 |
phIRCe-local | Title: site:schestowitz.com canada - Google Search .::. Size~: 23.32 KB | Oct 27 23:00 |
cubezzz | ha, front page of netcraft :) | Oct 27 23:00 |
schestowitz | I get 797 results on this DC | Oct 27 23:00 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, exactly | Oct 27 23:01 |
schestowitz | And OSI blog | Oct 27 23:01 |
schestowitz | Tiemann spoke to the govt | Oct 27 23:01 |
schestowitz | DOD | Oct 27 23:01 |
schestowitz | And he's a regular BN reader | Oct 27 23:01 |
schestowitz | :-) | Oct 27 23:01 |
cubezzz | wait a sec, why is it showing Linux then Microsoft-IIS/6.0 ? | Oct 27 23:01 |
cubezzz | seems kind of wrong | Oct 27 23:01 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: it's not | Oct 27 23:02 |
schestowitz | Akamai | Oct 27 23:02 |
schestowitz | They use Apache and Linux now | Oct 27 23:02 |
schestowitz | See OSI blog | Oct 27 23:02 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: microsoft 'uses' Linux too | Oct 27 23:02 |
schestowitz | Akamai in-between | Oct 27 23:03 |
cubezzz | I see | Oct 27 23:03 |
schestowitz | The end-points need a closer lok | Oct 27 23:03 |
schestowitz | *look | Oct 27 23:03 |
cubezzz | heh, running Drupal | Oct 27 23:04 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_r600_3d&num=1 | Oct 27 23:04 |
phIRCe-local | Title: [Phoronix] Open-Source ATI R600/700 3D Support In Fedora 12 .::. Size~: 22.85 KB | Oct 27 23:04 |
schestowitz | Since you brought it up | Oct 27 23:04 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: according to Microsoft, whtehouse runs site with commie stuff from acne-ridden kid from mom's basement :-) | Oct 27 23:05 |
cubezzz | Stallman lives in MIT's basement, get it right :) | Oct 27 23:05 |
schestowitz | !google stallman london open road | Oct 27 23:06 |
phIRCe-local | [1] - Richard Stallman posts - The Open Road - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/openroad/%3Fkeyword%3DRichard%2BStallman | Oct 27 23:06 |
phIRCe-local | [2] - Licensing posts - The Open Road - CNET News | http://news.cnet.com/openroad/%3FcategoryId%3D9730066 | Oct 27 23:06 |
phIRCe-local | [3] - Stallman attacks Oyster's 'unethical' use of Linux - ZDNet.co.uk | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39431419,00.htm | Oct 27 23:06 |
phIRCe-local | [4] - 2009: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | http://stallman.org/archives/2009-jul-oct.html | Oct 27 23:06 |
trmanco | rms lives inside emacs | Oct 27 23:06 |
trmanco | :-P | Oct 27 23:06 |
schestowitz | q! | Oct 27 23:06 |
schestowitz | that's vi | Oct 27 23:07 |
trmanco | :q | Oct 27 23:07 |
cubezzz | please, I use vi :) | Oct 27 23:07 |
schestowitz | I used emacs some years ago | Oct 27 23:07 |
cubezzz | I guess I'm not 100% Stallmanite then | Oct 27 23:07 |
schestowitz | Went back to nedit after a week.... | Oct 27 23:07 |
schestowitz | I tried setting up phIRCe-local with vi yesterday | Oct 27 23:07 |
schestowitz | I gave up when it did funny stuff | Oct 27 23:07 |
cubezzz | you dont like vi then? | Oct 27 23:08 |
schestowitz | I just kate'd it | Oct 27 23:08 |
trmanco | I tried vi | Oct 27 23:08 |
MinceR | vim ftw | Oct 27 23:08 |
trmanco | but can't understand the basics yet | Oct 27 23:08 |
cubezzz | I got a vi page :) | Oct 27 23:08 |
schestowitz | We got a vi chruch | Oct 27 23:08 |
cubezzz | http://cubeman.org/vi.txt | Oct 27 23:08 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Oct 27 23:08 |
schestowitz | The pastor is our cursor | Oct 27 23:08 |
MinceR | trmanco: try gvim and remember to switch to insert mode to write... or if you don't want to switch modes, try evim :) | Oct 27 23:08 |
cubezzz | bah, text page discrimination! :) | Oct 27 23:08 |
trmanco | no qVim? | Oct 27 23:09 |
trmanco | I prefer Qt | Oct 27 23:09 |
trmanco | yeah that it the problem | Oct 27 23:09 |
schestowitz | He inserts new chars and overwrites them | Oct 27 23:09 |
cubezzz | I'm text-man :) | Oct 27 23:09 |
trmanco | I forgot to toggle between those modes | Oct 27 23:09 |
trmanco | I forgot how* | Oct 27 23:09 |
trmanco | I think I have vim installed | Oct 27 23:09 |
MinceR | yzis was going to be vim for qt | Oct 27 23:09 |
schestowitz | If you don't behave, n curses are cast upon you | Oct 27 23:09 |
cubezzz | I'm leet, I play mpoly in text mode :) | Oct 27 23:10 |
schestowitz | And according to RMS, there are "vi Virgins" | Oct 27 23:10 |
schestowitz | Vi virgins are the /guys/ in the church | Oct 27 23:10 |
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schestowitz | They are relieved by the women who lead the chruch of vi | Oct 27 23:10 |
MinceR | sounds fun | Oct 27 23:11 |
schestowitz | Nope | Oct 27 23:11 |
schestowitz | n curses | Oct 27 23:11 |
schestowitz | Very, very naughty | Oct 27 23:11 |
cubezzz | well maybe with Obama's influence you'll see more Linux et all in government | Oct 27 23:14 |
schestowitz | Also, it's limited to ASCII art | Oct 27 23:14 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: naaa... | Oct 27 23:14 |
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_goblin | right Im off to bed....v.early start for me...got to be at work for 6am. | Oct 27 23:19 |
_goblin | gn all... | Oct 27 23:19 |
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wallc | i just looked outside...there's a dust storm blowing through. guess i'll take my bloody mary (extra spicey!) and step away from the computer for a while... | Oct 27 23:20 |
wallc | :) later! | Oct 27 23:20 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and Im off to bed now. @sazzlerock I hope youre ears better. @tobyw7 I hope you are enjoying my recommendations! @IanAspin Patents? ask MS! | Oct 27 23:21 | |
schestowitz | http://thelinuxexperiment.com/guinea-pigs/jake-b/quick-fix-compiz-on-gentoo-resolving-text-corruption-in-terminal/ | Oct 27 23:26 |
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schestowitz | http://wonkabar.org/2009/10/26/playing-with-x264/ | Oct 27 23:30 |
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schestowitz | That was mutex | Oct 27 23:42 |
cubezzz | intruder alert! intruder alert! :) | Oct 27 23:42 |
cubezzz | how many bans for mutex now? | Oct 27 23:44 |
schestowitz | over 30 | Oct 27 23:45 |
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