-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Kernel Space Adds #Infrared Receiver Support http://lwn.net/Articles/364515/ | Dec 15 00:00 | |
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Omar87 | schestowitz: Linux is much more than just a kernel. Otherwise, there will be no point to trying to convert ppl to it. :) | Dec 15 00:00 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's like asking if people with brown hair be parents | Dec 15 00:00 |
Omar87 | no point *in* trying.. | Dec 15 00:00 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another #GNU Linux -Oriented Holiday #Gift Guide http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/68885.html | Dec 15 00:01 | |
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schestowitz | Omar87: no, Linux is actually just a kernel | Dec 15 00:01 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Good thing I have him ignored now. :) | Dec 15 00:01 |
schestowitz | Linus owns the word too | Dec 15 00:01 |
schestowitz | It's his trademark | Dec 15 00:01 |
DaemonFC | they'll keep atheists from adopting, but they'll give kids over to "parents" who send them to terrorist training camps abroad | Dec 15 00:01 |
DaemonFC | so which is really worse? hmmmm | Dec 15 00:01 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux Mature Enough for #Accessibility Needs http://ur1.ca/hv1a | Dec 15 00:02 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: what do you think about Linux? | Dec 15 00:02 |
DaemonFC | I think it's an operating system kernel started about 18 years ago | Dec 15 00:02 |
DaemonFC | and that Richard Stallman invented it | Dec 15 00:02 |
DaemonFC | ;) | Dec 15 00:02 |
trmanco | http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/1153-The-Malware-Problem-and-a-solution.html | Dec 15 00:03 |
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DaemonFC | they must have invented it if they're trying to name it GNU Linux | Dec 15 00:03 |
DaemonFC | right? :D | Dec 15 00:03 |
DaemonFC | or is there a GNU distribution of Linux? | Dec 15 00:04 |
DaemonFC | that might be it | Dec 15 00:04 |
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Omar87 | schestowitz: actually yeah, you're right. I agree. | Dec 15 00:05 |
DaemonFC | they take out all those pesky bits and pieces that make sure the system boots and the wifi works | Dec 15 00:05 |
DaemonFC | nobody needs anything beyond framebuffer graphics anyway | Dec 15 00:05 |
DaemonFC | get rid of all that too | Dec 15 00:05 |
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schestowitz | That's not Linux | Dec 15 00:06 |
DaemonFC | You know that's what scares me the most about their broken kernel generation script | Dec 15 00:06 |
schestowitz | And it's shared with other kernels | Dec 15 00:06 |
schestowitz | Like KDE4 is | Dec 15 00:06 |
schestowitz | KDE is not a Linux thing | Dec 15 00:06 |
schestowitz | It's a Free desktop | Dec 15 00:06 |
DaemonFC | what can you plug into the computer that works after you remove hundreds of pieces of firmware? | Dec 15 00:06 |
schestowitz | Sits on top of BSD also | Dec 15 00:06 |
schestowitz | Linux is a very good kernel | Dec 15 00:06 |
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schestowitz | It also fits well with other projects like xserver | Dec 15 00:07 |
DaemonFC | and who knows how many pieces of software FSF says you can't have | Dec 15 00:07 |
schestowitz | Some extend Linux to the graphics stack | Dec 15 00:07 |
schestowitz | Some extend it to the whole OS, including koversation | Dec 15 00:07 |
schestowitz | But Linus developers don't code konversation | Dec 15 00:07 |
schestowitz | *Linus | Dec 15 00:07 |
schestowitz | *>Linux | Dec 15 00:07 |
DaemonFC | I think it's comical that they're refusing to endorse distributions that work in favor of ones that likely won't and will confuse people more | Dec 15 00:07 |
schestowitz | Linux is a well of drivers with many very god algorithms for using the hardware | Dec 15 00:08 |
schestowitz | Red Hat codes lots of it | Dec 15 00:08 |
schestowitz | Linus wrote about 1% of it | Dec 15 00:08 |
DaemonFC | It's like removing the radiator, the transmission, the air conditioner compressor, the seat cushioning, and the muddler fro ma car | Dec 15 00:08 |
DaemonFC | and telling people to drive that car | Dec 15 00:08 |
DaemonFC | *muffler | Dec 15 00:08 |
schestowitz | You can call a car by its engine | Dec 15 00:09 |
schestowitz | Cadillac=Fedora | Dec 15 00:09 |
DaemonFC | stripping out hundreds of drivers for no reason won't win you very many supporters | Dec 15 00:09 |
DaemonFC | just more hardliner kooks | Dec 15 00:09 |
schestowitz | I don't want to remove drivers | Dec 15 00:10 |
DaemonFC | scream, and when it doesn't work, scream louder is what Stallman and FSF seem to do well | Dec 15 00:10 |
schestowitz | The companies that sold me my hardware put the drivers there | Dec 15 00:10 |
DaemonFC | maybe scream isn't the right word, but they do become more insistent and annoying when their plan isn't working | Dec 15 00:10 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I mainly refer to Gnewsense | Dec 15 00:11 |
DaemonFC | that's what they're behind right now, right? | Dec 15 00:11 |
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DaemonFC | Gnewsense does a lot to showcase how very little of a Linux desktop can be made to work in such a configuration | Dec 15 00:12 |
DaemonFC | it shows how deeply dependent Linux is on its firmware | Dec 15 00:13 |
Omar87 | How about "OnionRings"? | Dec 15 00:15 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #APT2 Coming Along Nicely http://juliank.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/apt2-progress-report-for-the-1st-half-of-december/ | Dec 15 00:19 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Firefox Wins in #Germany http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/299053,mozillas-firefox--the-big-challenger-in-the-browser-wars.html | Dec 15 00:19 | |
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schestowitz | gnewsense works ok | Dec 15 00:20 |
schestowitz | Omar87: TheOnion rings a bell! | Dec 15 00:20 |
Omar87 | what? | Dec 15 00:20 |
schestowitz | Now it got me hungry... | Dec 15 00:21 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Slack Gets Modern Coat of Paint with #KDE4 http://pdg86.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/pimp-my-slack/ | Dec 15 00:21 | |
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schestowitz | Sweet, deep dried... onion rings... mmmmmmmm........ junk food! | Dec 15 00:21 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LinuxConsole 1.0.2009 Reviewed http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20091214#feature | Dec 15 00:22 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNOME Desktop Environment Gets Really Good http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/48972 | Dec 15 00:23 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE 4.4 Second Beta Imminent http://steveire.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/community-identity-stability/ | Dec 15 00:23 | |
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Omar87 | schestowitz: lol :) | Dec 15 00:23 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Fedora 12 Surprises for the Better http://thelinuxblog.net/linux/fedora/fedora-12/ | Dec 15 00:24 | |
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neigborlee | gnewsense is a very very niche market..only those with lower power systems will take advantage of it as gamers and anyone else needing even a tinsie tiny amount of power will run for the hills | Dec 15 00:24 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Stream of Good (and New) #GNU #Linux Releases: An Overview http://ur1.ca/hv2s | Dec 15 00:25 | |
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neigborlee | imho, just like any other distro with similarly weak features, they only serve to fracture linux ( more than it already is ) | Dec 15 00:25 |
schestowitz | It's important to have it out there | Dec 15 00:27 |
schestowitz | At least as a showcase with some users who show it remains possible to run firefox (gnucat) and lots of neat things like 3d desktop and no binaries | Dec 15 00:28 |
schestowitz | neigborlee: but gnewsense is like a patchset | Dec 15 00:28 |
schestowitz | They don't fragment anything quite | Dec 15 00:29 |
neigborlee | well I mean | Dec 15 00:29 |
schestowitz | They just have a list of changes they make, like OEMs customise WIndows | Dec 15 00:29 |
neigborlee | how many people do you know, that are confused with linux distro to use..many many | Dec 15 00:29 |
neigborlee | heck, from time to time im in that camp | Dec 15 00:29 |
schestowitz | That's the fun of it | Dec 15 00:29 |
neigborlee | its confusing out there lol | Dec 15 00:29 |
neigborlee | not really | Dec 15 00:29 |
schestowitz | Imagine having one car brand *and* model | Dec 15 00:29 |
neigborlee | ive wasted far far too much time deciding what to use/whats the best bang for da buck | Dec 15 00:30 |
neigborlee | time i/'d rather spend on ..important things ;) | Dec 15 00:30 |
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neigborlee | not that i've never enjoyed the journey so to speak..but man! ;) | Dec 15 00:30 |
DaemonFC | There's a tough choice already because a lot of distributions do a few things better than everyone else and they all have one or more things where they made a very bad decision | Dec 15 00:31 |
DaemonFC | so you may find a distribution close to what you want, but never a perfect fit | Dec 15 00:31 |
neigborlee | DaemonFC: I hate to agree with you, but bingo | Dec 15 00:31 |
neigborlee | linux rocks and I'll always wish I could use only linux, though when that day is coming i've ZERO clue | Dec 15 00:32 |
neigborlee | im just too tied to winblows for some games and clearly many apps | Dec 15 00:32 |
neigborlee | though im trying to whittle that down ;)) | Dec 15 00:32 |
DaemonFC | it's unfortunate because some of them choose t oignore the community and invite forks to happen | Dec 15 00:32 |
neigborlee | totally | Dec 15 00:32 |
DaemonFC | then you have even more inconsistency where you could have worked with them | Dec 15 00:33 |
neigborlee | yup | Dec 15 00:33 |
neigborlee | all for one... | Dec 15 00:33 |
neigborlee | all for me ? ;) | Dec 15 00:33 |
neigborlee | sometimes choice IS good,,but hmmf not necessarily in this case ;)) < or in many other cases> | Dec 15 00:33 |
DaemonFC | oftentimes a distribution will kind of center around 1, 2, 3.... people that have veto power over everything or at least steer it more than anyone else can hope to | Dec 15 00:34 |
DaemonFC | it brought the Ubuntu fork, and it's bringing forks of Ubuntu for example | Dec 15 00:34 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: yeah know something? I can pick something that includes freedom in it. Such as.. MyFreedomPodium.. :-) | Dec 15 00:35 |
DaemonFC | Debian refused to change and now you have Ubuntu where even more control is in the hands of fewer people | Dec 15 00:35 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ArchLinux 2009.8 in Review and #KDE4 Derivative #Chakra http://ur1.ca/hv3e http://ur1.ca/hv3f | Dec 15 00:35 | |
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neigborlee | DaemonFC: in huge part, tha tis exactly why I've struggled SO much over the years in choosing WHat linux distro to run..one does this better, and another this, and another this..its madening and not anyone does it all great.. | Dec 15 00:35 |
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Omar87 | schestowitz: or something similar.. | Dec 15 00:35 |
DaemonFC | well, you see what happens when companies control it, even if they have a nice fake front of a committee or whatnot | Dec 15 00:36 |
neigborlee | maybe that explains why linux has ( or so says the study ) 0.8 market share atm ? | Dec 15 00:36 |
DaemonFC | corruption | Dec 15 00:36 |
DaemonFC | one or two people running a distribution have a dictatorship and depend on a bigger project to base on anyway | Dec 15 00:36 |
DaemonFC | and communities move too slow | Dec 15 00:37 |
schestowitz | neigborlee: that's dog's bollox :-) | Dec 15 00:37 |
neigborlee | heh | Dec 15 00:37 |
schestowitz | Linux gives YOU what YOU want | Dec 15 00:37 |
neigborlee | no i mean.. | Dec 15 00:37 |
schestowitz | "it was my idea" | Dec 15 00:37 |
schestowitz | Windows is one size fits 'all' | Dec 15 00:37 |
schestowitz | It doesn't | Dec 15 00:37 |
neigborlee | in choosing what distro to run..ive always have a very very rough time | Dec 15 00:37 |
neigborlee | and thats why..at least FOR ME | Dec 15 00:37 |
schestowitz | Like... Vista 7 won't be good for old PCs | Dec 15 00:37 |
neigborlee | for m e | Dec 15 00:37 |
schestowitz | Too bad, eh? | Dec 15 00:37 |
neigborlee | of course | Dec 15 00:38 |
schestowitz | Old PC => well, time to buy a new one | Dec 15 00:38 |
neigborlee | lately i've struggled what to run on the pc side too..but MUCH less overall than linux | Dec 15 00:38 |
neigborlee | way less | Dec 15 00:38 |
schestowitz | So the argument that you can't find a perfect fits is all backwards | Dec 15 00:38 |
schestowitz | That would be WIndows | Dec 15 00:38 |
neigborlee | not really | Dec 15 00:38 |
DaemonFC | 7 should run on anything Vista came on | Dec 15 00:38 |
neigborlee | well | Dec 15 00:38 |
schestowitz | Vista and Vista 7 are the same | Dec 15 00:38 |
schestowitz | Just new deskbar | Dec 15 00:38 |
DaemonFC | I think the last XP stuff was on clearance in 2005 | Dec 15 00:38 |
neigborlee | I can't say..I dont have win7..all I tried was win7RC | Dec 15 00:38 |
schestowitz | And less UIAC | Dec 15 00:38 |
schestowitz | UAC | Dec 15 00:38 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The Software Freedom Law Center #SFLC sues 14 brands for GPL violations.http://bit.ly/7QQ4zJ | Dec 15 00:39 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Distributions for Sub-notebooks Summarised http://ur1.ca/hv3m http://ur1.ca/hv3n | Dec 15 00:39 | |
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neigborlee | rc wasn't half bad at all.BUT its got that damn dev code and its DOG slow | Dec 15 00:39 |
DaemonFC | so we might as well say that if you bought a new PC wit hXP in 2005, that PC would be almost 5 years old now anyway | Dec 15 00:39 |
neigborlee | however..add to confusion that a app I depend on, atm,,,won t even run in win7 | Dec 15 00:39 |
DaemonFC | five years is about how long you should figure on keeping something | Dec 15 00:40 |
neigborlee | so now we come into a whole new problem ;) | Dec 15 00:40 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Has Solid Grounding, Mint Makes It Easier http://ur1.ca/hv3r http://ur1.ca/hv3t | Dec 15 00:40 | |
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DaemonFC | neigborlee: Did you try compatibility mode? | Dec 15 00:40 |
neigborlee | of course | Dec 15 00:40 |
neigborlee | I tried everything | Dec 15 00:40 |
DaemonFC | Run as Administrator in the compatibility tab? | Dec 15 00:40 |
neigborlee | it wont even let win7 install it ;) | Dec 15 00:40 |
DaemonFC | hmmm | Dec 15 00:40 |
neigborlee | I never got that far LOL | Dec 15 00:40 |
DaemonFC | 16-bit installer application? | Dec 15 00:40 |
neigborlee | msaccess 97 | Dec 15 00:40 |
DaemonFC | that's probably what happened | Dec 15 00:41 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Arduino Extends to Another Free Platform http://hackaday.com/2009/12/13/arduino-development-on-opensolaris/ | Dec 15 00:41 | |
neigborlee | and before you get excited, yes I knwo its a old'ish app | Dec 15 00:41 |
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neigborlee | but I need it ;) | Dec 15 00:41 |
DaemonFC | a lot of programs back then had 16-bit installers | Dec 15 00:41 |
neigborlee | could be | Dec 15 00:41 |
DaemonFC | 64-bit Windows won't run 16-bit Windows EXEs | Dec 15 00:41 |
neigborlee | hm | Dec 15 00:41 |
DaemonFC | only 32-bit and 64-bit EXEs will run | Dec 15 00:41 |
neigborlee | maybe that was the problem..I do have a 32bit win7 though.... | Dec 15 00:42 |
DaemonFC | the 32-bit version of Vista or 7 will run Win16 binaries | Dec 15 00:42 |
neigborlee | yup | Dec 15 00:42 |
neigborlee | I mean gotcha | Dec 15 00:42 |
DaemonFC | I hit that problem with my old LucasArts games, 16-bit installer | Dec 15 00:42 |
neigborlee | lol | Dec 15 00:42 |
DaemonFC | the games are 32-bit though | Dec 15 00:42 |
neigborlee | ahhhhh | Dec 15 00:42 |
DaemonFC | just can't install them | Dec 15 00:42 |
neigborlee | weird ;) | Dec 15 00:42 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MySQL #Database Receives Promises from #Oracle http://ur1.ca/hv3y http://ur1.ca/hv43 http://ur1.ca/hv45 | Dec 15 00:43 | |
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neigborlee | DaemonFC: I also have a OLD lucas arts game....starwars podracer ;) | Dec 15 00:43 |
DaemonFC | yeah, ended up following some guide and using 7zip to unpack the files I needed and then adding registry keys for the game by hand | Dec 15 00:43 |
DaemonFC | :P | Dec 15 00:43 |
neigborlee | that games rocks :) | Dec 15 00:43 |
DaemonFC | It was tacky, but the games work now | Dec 15 00:43 |
neigborlee | heh | Dec 15 00:43 |
DaemonFC | hope I never have to do it again :P | Dec 15 00:44 |
neigborlee | I did like win7 overall I must admit..cleaner,,faster...though I hate!! M$ for removing quick launch!!! | Dec 15 00:44 |
neigborlee | what the hell is wrong with them ;) | Dec 15 00:44 |
DaemonFC | Well, Pin to Taskbar is pretty much the same thing | Dec 15 00:44 |
neigborlee | noipe | Dec 15 00:44 |
neigborlee | I dont want to see the darn thing, I like a clean desktoip | Dec 15 00:45 |
neigborlee | sorry im nit picky | Dec 15 00:45 |
neigborlee | :( | Dec 15 00:45 |
neigborlee | for some things | Dec 15 00:45 |
DaemonFC | I just sorted the persistent taskbar shortcuts the same way I usually lay out quick launch | Dec 15 00:45 |
neigborlee | but yes I know what they were trying to do | Dec 15 00:45 |
DaemonFC | not really a lot to get used to | Dec 15 00:45 |
neigborlee | sorta kinda yes | Dec 15 00:45 |
neigborlee | you CAN get quick launch back..but what you have to do is nuts | Dec 15 00:46 |
neigborlee | unless its easier in rtm I dont know | Dec 15 00:46 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Just stumbled upon Canonical Voices http://bit.ly/8CoGiR - like Planet Ubuntu http://bit.ly/16iXCS for only Canonical ppl #fb | Dec 15 00:50 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb2BSuvScKo&feature=related | Dec 15 00:51 |
DaemonFC | neigborlee: I have RTM, it's really not any different than the RC, ad far as user interface | Dec 15 00:51 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #BSD 's Potential Not Yet Realised by the World http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1123 | Dec 15 00:53 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Government Fails at Openness, Again http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/12/fdic-sends-a-big-f-u.html | Dec 15 00:54 | |
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DaemonFC | FDIC is broke and not trying to call attention to that | Dec 15 00:56 |
neigborlee | DaemonFC: so in rtm, its still 'tricky' to create quick launch ? | Dec 15 00:57 |
neigborlee | if so, thats really a shame | Dec 15 00:57 |
neigborlee | one of my friends is going to mac, for similar reasons | Dec 15 00:58 |
DaemonFC | I never had a problem with it in RC either | Dec 15 00:58 |
neigborlee | and she's almost got me convinced | Dec 15 00:58 |
neigborlee | no I mean...it should be a simple, right click affair | Dec 15 00:58 |
DaemonFC | Mac is just horse trading for different problems | Dec 15 00:58 |
neigborlee | not having to paste in some arcane command | Dec 15 00:58 |
neigborlee | DaemonFC: there is that..which is why im not flocking to it atm LOL | Dec 15 00:58 |
neigborlee | well she's going to continue using XP for games etcetera,,but she'll be using macosX for lappie | Dec 15 00:59 |
neigborlee | I think her goal is to get a macbook pro | Dec 15 00:59 |
DaemonFC | yeah, you can remove XP from your old PC and install it in Boot Camp on your Mac | Dec 15 00:59 |
DaemonFC | and reactivate it | Dec 15 01:00 |
DaemonFC | provided you have the full version (not OEM) | Dec 15 01:00 |
neigborlee | yeah | Dec 15 01:00 |
neigborlee | thats another reason ;) | Dec 15 01:00 |
DaemonFC | I'd just reuse an old copy of XP myself, it's not like you're buying the Mac to primarily use Windows anyway | Dec 15 01:01 |
neigborlee | yup | Dec 15 01:01 |
DaemonFC | Just get a big hard disk | Dec 15 01:01 |
DaemonFC | that way you can throw a couple hundred gigs to Windows and never mess with it again | Dec 15 01:02 |
DaemonFC | My system isn't real Hackintosh friendly | Dec 15 01:02 |
DaemonFC | I'd have to use a modified kernel to get it to work on my AMD motherboard and CPU | Dec 15 01:03 |
DaemonFC | I'm not to keen on the idea of having to mess with an in-place operating system once I've got it just the way I like it | Dec 15 01:03 |
DaemonFC | and with the Hackintosh deal, you never know when you may have to reformat cause of some "major" OS upgrade | Dec 15 01:04 |
DaemonFC | And if you think I'm paying highway robbery for what amounts to a PC anyway, think again :D | Dec 15 01:04 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Cold War Involves #Microsoft #Windows Zombies http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/14/cyberwarfare_talks/ | Dec 15 01:05 | |
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DaemonFC | \I was looking at Macs myself a while back and it would have taken $2,000 to buy an iMac that's as capable at my $1,000 PC | Dec 15 01:05 |
neigborlee | OUCH | Dec 15 01:09 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sankarshan: RT @arstechnica: SFLC launches GPL enforcement smackdown on 14 gadget makers - http://arst.ch/b2s | Dec 15 01:15 | |
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trmanco | I know a way to fix this | Dec 15 01:21 |
trmanco | the moved permanently thing is a bug | Dec 15 01:21 |
trmanco | I can code it in a better way if I were in the mood for it | Dec 15 01:21 |
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willimm | Hey, haven't talked in a while | Dec 15 01:33 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Time to End #Microsoft ’s Digital Occupation of #Spain http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/spain-boiler-room-msft/ | Dec 15 01:51 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Asus to spin off mobo and graphics card division into #Pegatron http://ur1.ca/hv8r | Dec 15 02:06 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham @jamie_love It looks as though the EU will cave in and let Oracle acquire MySQL with these conditions http://bit.ly/4I9nGy | Dec 15 02:18 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Violates the #GNU #GPL for Third Time in 2009 http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/microsoft-cn-violates-gnu-gpl/ | Dec 15 02:20 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @webmink: Never forget copyright is about monopoly and freedom is a hack. It will be hard&uncertain until we reform for the digital age | Dec 15 02:22 | |
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willimm | If I were you, I would let Oracle and Sun merge toghether. | Dec 15 02:29 |
willimm | I mean if I was the EU... | Dec 15 02:29 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] I wish someone would fix the gnome metapackage on !Debian already, someone made it require tomboy instead of tomboy or gnote !monofree | Dec 15 02:36 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] I can't upgrade the gnome metapackage until thats fixed !debian !monofree | Dec 15 02:36 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Now they started harassing ordinary citizens too? http://tinyurl.com/y8kgck5 #piracy #microsoft #fail | Dec 15 02:41 | |
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schestowitz | BN mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8498877 | Dec 15 02:51 |
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schestowitz | hey, willimm. wb | Dec 15 02:51 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Push-Polling Against the “G” in #GNOME http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/14/push-polling-vs-gnu/ #mono | Dec 15 02:55 | |
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schestowitz | gn | Dec 15 02:55 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] someone mysteriously subscribed me to ILUG-Delhi mailing list :( . I got the first email from linuxlingam . hehehe lawgon shouts @ them :P | Dec 15 02:56 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] How will they name GNOME when its out of GNU project? MNOME :D hehehe #rant | Dec 15 03:11 | |
Ender2070 | nice new article | Dec 15 03:14 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Pushed emacs-spice-mode in bodhi for Fedora electronics lab !fedora | Dec 15 03:21 | |
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DaemonFC | I hate those Onstar commercials | Dec 15 03:29 |
DaemonFC | this bitch's car breaks down and she hits the button and says "Yeah, I'm 10.2 miles past route 4 and I need some help" and the next thing you see are fire and rescue, the police, and an ambulance and some paramedics out there just because there's smoke coming out of her radiator | Dec 15 03:29 |
DaemonFC | I'd be a very concerned quasi-taxpayer if this town sent out all that cause some idiot let their coolant run out and their engine overheated | Dec 15 03:30 |
DaemonFC | for products like this, they have to depict stupid people because that's their market I guess | Dec 15 03:30 |
Ender2070 | its a commercial | Dec 15 03:30 |
DaemonFC | still makes me want to kill soccer moms | Dec 15 03:31 |
DaemonFC | course I already wanted death to all of them | Dec 15 03:31 |
Ender2070 | who don't you want to kill | Dec 15 03:31 |
Ender2070 | honestly | Dec 15 03:31 |
DaemonFC | hmmmmm, well | Dec 15 03:31 |
Ender2070 | I imagine its a shorter list | Dec 15 03:31 |
DaemonFC | there might be 10% of the population left if everyone I wanted all of them to die actually dropped dead | Dec 15 03:32 |
DaemonFC | you know? | Dec 15 03:32 |
Ender2070 | its silly too | Dec 15 03:32 |
Ender2070 | soccer moms are voting right wing just like you too | Dec 15 03:32 |
Ender2070 | you'll end up letting the evil communist liberals in | Dec 15 03:32 |
DaemonFC | it's not all idealogical, there's just a huge crossover between religion, the social breakdown, and stupid fucks | Dec 15 03:33 |
DaemonFC | a lot of overlap I mean | Dec 15 03:33 |
Ender2070 | yeah but soccer moms are usually bible thumpers | Dec 15 03:33 |
Ender2070 | bible thumpers usually vote republican | Dec 15 03:33 |
DaemonFC | well, then it's a twofer I suppose | Dec 15 03:33 |
DaemonFC | all the more incentive to wish them a shitty painful death | Dec 15 03:33 |
DaemonFC | ohhh, threefer even | Dec 15 03:34 |
DaemonFC | we're going into bonus rounds | Dec 15 03:34 |
Ender2070 | lol | Dec 15 03:34 |
Ender2070 | I don't suggest killing anyone | Dec 15 03:34 |
Ender2070 | I only suggest removing obvious safety warnings that people should be aware of anyways | Dec 15 03:34 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: Wishing that they would all drop dead isn't illegal, doing it myself would be | Dec 15 03:34 |
DaemonFC | I can keep my fingers crossed that micro-meteorites enter Earth's atmosphere, thousands of them, all on a trajectory that has them hit soccer moms | Dec 15 03:35 |
Ender2070 | lol | Dec 15 03:35 |
DaemonFC | nothing illegal about that at all | Dec 15 03:35 |
Ender2070 | you're in a publicly logged irc channel, someone might grant your wish | Dec 15 03:35 |
DaemonFC | it would go far towards restoring my faith in a just god | Dec 15 03:36 |
Ender2070 | not the meteorite thing | Dec 15 03:36 |
DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 03:36 |
Ender2070 | you're kinda crazy, lol | Dec 15 03:36 |
DaemonFC | yeah, but I'm not dangerous beyond the fact that I vote I suppose | Dec 15 03:37 |
DaemonFC | so society ignores my delusional ranting largely | Dec 15 03:37 |
Ender2070 | if i was less bored you wouldn't have an audience right now | Dec 15 03:38 |
DaemonFC | even voting doesn't really empower you when there's no substantial differences between candidates | Dec 15 03:38 |
DaemonFC | and when you have an electoral college that further disempowers the individual | Dec 15 03:38 |
DaemonFC | by the time you get to the minor candidates, they're so far out of touch, they're on a different planet | Dec 15 03:39 |
DaemonFC | and they have no broad appeal | Dec 15 03:39 |
DaemonFC | Ross Perot was the only independent in my lifetime that ever got close and he was basically a Republican anyway | Dec 15 03:40 |
DaemonFC | he actually lost the Republicans the 1992 and 1996 elections and made Clinton the winner | Dec 15 03:40 |
DaemonFC | now I might vote for a Perot-like character for one reason alone, he would never have signed NAFTA | Dec 15 03:41 |
DaemonFC | that alone might have gotten my vote if I was old enough back then | Dec 15 03:41 |
DaemonFC | I'm getting awfully close to saying that we need to find some way to have a recall on Obama | Dec 15 03:42 |
DaemonFC | Obama has not lived up to any of his important campaign promises. What he has done is enact a liberal agenda of more special rights for minorities, furthered the Iraq and Afghanistan "wars", appointed RIAA and MPAA lobbyists to the DOJ | Dec 15 03:44 |
DaemonFC | the list goes on and on | Dec 15 03:44 |
DaemonFC | the only thing he hasn't managed to do is get amnesty for illegal aliens, because there's a smidgen of sanity left in Congress and enough voters that would be enraged at him for it | Dec 15 03:45 |
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DaemonFC | we needed an FDR, we got another Jimmy Carter instead | Dec 15 03:46 |
DaemonFC | well, he might stop short of that level of incompetence | Dec 15 03:47 |
DaemonFC | when he rolls out a middle eat peace plan that involves giving all of Israel away, he will have | Dec 15 03:48 |
DaemonFC | *east | Dec 15 03:48 |
DaemonFC | he's already working on doubling the cost of gas, heating oil, and electricity | Dec 15 03:49 |
DaemonFC | How many poor people can we sacrifice to starvation and frostbite? | Dec 15 03:50 |
DaemonFC | A: All of them. What the hell? | Dec 15 03:50 |
DaemonFC | over the shaky allegation that climate change is occurring | Dec 15 03:51 |
DaemonFC | just kill all the poor people | Dec 15 03:51 |
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DaemonFC | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/GHG_per_capita_2000.svg | Dec 15 03:55 |
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DaemonFC | there you see which countries release the most carbon dioxide per capita | Dec 15 03:55 |
DaemonFC | and you see that Australia and Canada actually release more of it per capita than the US | Dec 15 03:56 |
Ender2070 | co2 isn't a very good way to tell global warming | Dec 15 03:56 |
Ender2070 | because trees give off co2 | Dec 15 03:56 |
Ender2070 | canada is mostly trees | Dec 15 03:56 |
DaemonFC | a lot of countries in green are jsut refusing to release their stats because htere's a triple digit percentage increase every decade for them | Dec 15 03:56 |
DaemonFC | and they don't want to admit that they pollute worse than anyone else | Dec 15 03:57 |
Ender2070 | its funny to see a green china | Dec 15 03:57 |
Ender2070 | considering they beat the US in polution recently | Dec 15 03:57 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: Cause they'll either lie or not tell you anything | Dec 15 03:57 |
DaemonFC | you know they've faked their reports | Dec 15 03:57 |
DaemonFC | you can't have that many factories going and not release a bunch more than they're saying they do | Dec 15 03:58 |
Ender2070 | see those little islands above canada | Dec 15 03:58 |
DaemonFC | so it's obvious that China is cooking their stats | Dec 15 03:58 |
Ender2070 | they have no people on them | Dec 15 03:59 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: They're coloring the countries averaged output | Dec 15 03:59 |
DaemonFC | There's not that many people in South Dakota either and it's the same color as the rest of the US | Dec 15 03:59 |
Ender2070 | yeah but they say its based on land | Dec 15 03:59 |
Ender2070 | lol | Dec 15 03:59 |
Ender2070 | we're probably that dark because of right wing alberta destroying the air harvesting oil | Dec 15 04:00 |
DaemonFC | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/GHG_by_country_2000.svg | Dec 15 04:00 |
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DaemonFC | this one says it includes land use change | Dec 15 04:00 |
DaemonFC | so yeah, there's red China | Dec 15 04:00 |
DaemonFC | recognize it anywhere :) | Dec 15 04:01 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Reached at egmore station, cool weather in chennai, just after a rain . | Dec 15 04:01 | |
Ender2070 | just as red as communism | Dec 15 04:01 |
DaemonFC | OK, so the US is in fact the reddest on the map if you look at it this way, but China has pretty much tied us | Dec 15 04:01 |
DaemonFC | this was in 2000 as well | Dec 15 04:02 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Dec 15 04:02 |
Ender2070 | china surpassed the us | Dec 15 04:02 |
DaemonFC | so they're definitely ahead of us in CO2 output by now | Dec 15 04:02 |
Ender2070 | since everything got shipped off there | Dec 15 04:02 |
DaemonFC | I'd also think that Russia has gotten better | Dec 15 04:02 |
Ender2070 | they dont care about the environment, just cheap cheap manufacturing | Dec 15 04:02 |
DaemonFC | they're probably in yellow by now | Dec 15 04:02 |
Ender2070 | Russia is nice | Dec 15 04:02 |
DaemonFC | most of the EU has not improved | Dec 15 04:02 |
Ender2070 | i wouldnt mind going there | Dec 15 04:02 |
DaemonFC | the UK is really the only reason the EU's stats have gone down | Dec 15 04:03 |
Ender2070 | you would like Russia too, its all white people | Dec 15 04:03 |
DaemonFC | sign me up | Dec 15 04:03 |
Ender2070 | LOL | Dec 15 04:03 |
DaemonFC | no, I don't mind black people or anyone else for that matter | Dec 15 04:03 |
DaemonFC | what I do not like is how most of them here wear their pants halfway pulled down | Dec 15 04:04 |
DaemonFC | and use slang | Dec 15 04:04 |
DaemonFC | heavily | Dec 15 04:04 |
DaemonFC | to where it's not even English anymore | Dec 15 04:04 |
DaemonFC | race is a separate thing to uneducated, ignorant, and trashy | Dec 15 04:04 |
DaemonFC | there's plenty of uneducated, ignorant, and trashy white people | Dec 15 04:05 |
DaemonFC | but I don't want to be around them either | Dec 15 04:05 |
Ender2070 | your mixing culture and race | Dec 15 04:05 |
DaemonFC | well, I call them Wiggers | Dec 15 04:05 |
DaemonFC | cause it's obvious what they're trying to imitate | Dec 15 04:05 |
Ender2070 | i know westernized people of indian decent who are so racist against indian people | Dec 15 04:05 |
Ender2070 | not native americans | Dec 15 04:06 |
DaemonFC | I'm not prejudiced against any race, I'm prejudiced against the way people act and carry themselves when it is downright offensive | Dec 15 04:06 |
DaemonFC | not just offensive in the general meaning of the word, but offensive to intelligence | Dec 15 04:06 |
DaemonFC | Crimes Against Intelligence is what they should call that | Dec 15 04:07 |
DaemonFC | to the point where you can't even understand them when they speak to you | Dec 15 04:07 |
DaemonFC | ignorance is a choice | Dec 15 04:07 |
Ender2070 | i think i was trying to point out that people act certain ways due to culture, not skin colour | Dec 15 04:07 |
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Ender2070 | the way people are raised effects their attitudes | Dec 15 04:08 |
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DaemonFC | Ender2070: But what I guess I mean is, why is there such a high proportion of ignorant black people to intelligent black people in the United States? | Dec 15 04:09 |
DaemonFC | I'd give them a 50/50 between idiots and intelligent people | Dec 15 04:09 |
DaemonFC | it's not race, I never believed race was the cause | Dec 15 04:09 |
Ender2070 | its a 50/50 split with everyone | Dec 15 04:10 |
DaemonFC | cause it only happens HERE | Dec 15 04:10 |
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DaemonFC | you need to get them away of that culture of ignorance | Dec 15 04:10 |
DaemonFC | find a way to get them to go to school | Dec 15 04:10 |
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DaemonFC | hell, I don't know | Dec 15 04:10 |
Ender2070 | peer pressure probably plays a role too | Dec 15 04:11 |
DaemonFC | one thing is all the welfare creating a cycle of poverty | Dec 15 04:11 |
DaemonFC | programs that just pay out whether you're trying to do better or not | Dec 15 04:11 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Reached at chennai . Its raining... I liked chennai weather for first time.. | Dec 15 04:12 | |
DaemonFC | they should say "We'll give you food stamps but you have to be in some kind of training program for a better job" | Dec 15 04:12 |
Ender2070 | cycles like that exist everywhere though | Dec 15 04:12 |
DaemonFC | there should be an action plan to get people off of food stamps | Dec 15 04:12 |
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DaemonFC | it's a safety net, shouldn't have ever turned into a lifetime thing that pays out every month | Dec 15 04:13 |
Ender2070 | actually, Canada does this sort of | Dec 15 04:13 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sankarshan: http://ow.ly/Mbcp in case u didnot already know.16thDec09 1900, TERI-SRC, Bangalore.Mozilla Drumbeat OpenWeb Talks #mozilla | Dec 15 04:13 | |
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Ender2070 | theres a program for laid of people called "Second Career" and it will put people through college if they can't get jobs | Dec 15 04:13 |
Ender2070 | they'll cover up to a 2 year course | Dec 15 04:13 |
Ender2070 | and 28k of funding for each year | Dec 15 04:14 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: technically there's an ineligibility period of 6 months once you've been on food stamps for 12 month, but it doesn't stop someone else in the house from getting them and counting you as part of the household | Dec 15 04:14 |
DaemonFC | so that's how they stay on them forever | Dec 15 04:14 |
DaemonFC | whenever someone hits the time out, someone else gets them in their name | Dec 15 04:14 |
Ender2070 | we dont have food stamps | Dec 15 04:14 |
Ender2070 | at least that im aware of | Dec 15 04:14 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: It's rife with fraud | Dec 15 04:15 |
Ender2070 | we have unemployment insurance | Dec 15 04:15 |
DaemonFC | like say I had some kids, and I was getting $450 a month in stamps, right? | Dec 15 04:15 |
Ender2070 | k | Dec 15 04:15 |
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DaemonFC | I walk up to you and say "Get yourself $200 of groceries and I'll slide my card, and you give me $100 cash" | Dec 15 04:15 |
DaemonFC | then I go buy booze, cigarettes, or drugs, off taxpayer money | Dec 15 04:16 |
DaemonFC | and my kids still have nothing to eat | Dec 15 04:16 |
DaemonFC | happens all the time | Dec 15 04:16 |
Ender2070 | ahh | Dec 15 04:16 |
DaemonFC | seen it so many times I lost count | Dec 15 04:16 |
Ender2070 | thats hard to prevent | Dec 15 04:17 |
DaemonFC | so the welfare costs taxpayer money, the kids it's meant to help get to starve, and a drug dealer gets more business | Dec 15 04:17 |
DaemonFC | cool huh? | Dec 15 04:17 |
Ender2070 | a strange system | Dec 15 04:18 |
DaemonFC | and there's a guy I knew back when I was a teenager on Medicaid, he was like 15 at the time, right? | Dec 15 04:18 |
Ender2070 | we have welfare too | Dec 15 04:18 |
DaemonFC | sleeping around, getting diseases | Dec 15 04:18 |
Ender2070 | but when you're on it, someone comes to your house to check up | Dec 15 04:18 |
DaemonFC | Medicaid would pay to patch him up every time | Dec 15 04:18 |
DaemonFC | not even allowed to ask who he got it from | Dec 15 04:18 |
Ender2070 | well im from Canada, so you know my stance on free health care | Dec 15 04:19 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: There's caseworkers for food stamps, but all they do is "pat you down" every 6 months to make sure that on the surface, it looks like you still qualify for them | Dec 15 04:19 |
DaemonFC | all you have to do is be good enough to fudge the forms | Dec 15 04:19 |
Ender2070 | they should do drug testing :) | Dec 15 04:19 |
DaemonFC | and you can get away with anything | Dec 15 04:19 |
DaemonFC | they don't | Dec 15 04:20 |
Ender2070 | too much work | Dec 15 04:20 |
Ender2070 | it would cost more money | Dec 15 04:20 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: The only thing that can lose you your food stamps (forever) for drugs, is if the cops find them on you somehow or in your car or house | Dec 15 04:20 |
DaemonFC | and you get convicted | Dec 15 04:20 |
Ender2070 | ahhh | Dec 15 04:21 |
DaemonFC | it also loses you eligibility for Section 8 subsidized housing forever too | Dec 15 04:21 |
DaemonFC | but everyone that lives out there has drugs | Dec 15 04:21 |
DaemonFC | they do drugs 363 days out of the year and make sure not to have them during the two inspections every 6 months | Dec 15 04:21 |
DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 04:21 |
Ender2070 | i think i remember you mentioning you used drugs, so i wouldn't be on such a high horse | Dec 15 04:21 |
DaemonFC | I have before | Dec 15 04:22 |
DaemonFC | they wouldn't find anything here or in a drug test now | Dec 15 04:22 |
DaemonFC | my body tends to rid itself of THC very quickly | Dec 15 04:22 |
DaemonFC | I'll pass a NIDA 5 urine test 6 days after smoking an entire big joint | Dec 15 04:23 |
neigborlee | drugs are a total waste of money, and degrade moral fiber of society | Dec 15 04:23 |
neigborlee | trust me I know from experience,,though its not MY experienc.e...EVERYONE else around me. | Dec 15 04:23 |
DaemonFC | neigborlee: I quite smoking it when I got some that was laced with something | Dec 15 04:23 |
Ender2070 | neigborlee - i agree | Dec 15 04:23 |
neigborlee | MJ for mediciina purposs im TOTALLY on board with | Dec 15 04:23 |
DaemonFC | that was a bad trip | Dec 15 04:23 |
neigborlee | anything else.fuck it | Dec 15 04:23 |
neigborlee | fook it ;0-0 | Dec 15 04:24 |
DaemonFC | could have been LSD or formaldehyde | Dec 15 04:24 |
DaemonFC | from the symptoms it produced | Dec 15 04:24 |
neigborlee | DaemonFC: ouch ,,sounds horrid and good fo ryou ;) | Dec 15 04:24 |
Ender2070 | if it was LSD you would've had fun, perhaps formaldehyde was in it | Dec 15 04:24 |
neigborlee | I think its a much deeper problem though, than just the 'drugs' per se..well thats obvious but hey | Dec 15 04:25 |
DaemonFC | neigborlee: Try to imagine yourself light headed, the room is orbiting YOU, you're throwing up every once in a while, but falling over every time you try to walk because the room is turning left and right and even upside down | Dec 15 04:25 |
DaemonFC | and your heart is beating about 120 bpm | Dec 15 04:25 |
neigborlee | poverity,lack of education..peer pressure..it ALL combines to hook people on drugs..its an escape | Dec 15 04:25 |
DaemonFC | pot doesn't do that | Dec 15 04:25 |
DaemonFC | so I know it had something in it | Dec 15 04:25 |
neigborlee | an escape &/or kewl cause others do it | Dec 15 04:26 |
neigborlee | pot doesn't do what | Dec 15 04:26 |
DaemonFC | makes me nauseated every time I recall that | Dec 15 04:26 |
DaemonFC | pot is really nothing to write home about | Dec 15 04:26 |
DaemonFC | it'll get you high, but it won't make you feel like THAT by itself | Dec 15 04:27 |
neigborlee | well comapred to the other nasty ones, that much is likely true ;) | Dec 15 04:27 |
neigborlee | at least chemically speaking ;) | Dec 15 04:27 |
DaemonFC | I've driven stoned before, lol | Dec 15 04:27 |
DaemonFC | at night | Dec 15 04:27 |
neigborlee | omg I definitely have | Dec 15 04:27 |
neigborlee | YEARS and YEARS ago | Dec 15 04:27 |
neigborlee | like in 1975'ish | Dec 15 04:28 |
DaemonFC | and my eyes were dilated and every time a car came towards me with its lights on, I'd go blind for about 5-6 seconds | Dec 15 04:28 |
DaemonFC | lol | Dec 15 04:28 |
DaemonFC | and I had to drive about 30 miles down a state highway like that | Dec 15 04:28 |
DaemonFC | my mouth was incredibly dry, and I had a 2 liter of diet mountain dew on the passenger floor | Dec 15 04:28 |
neigborlee | well im sure most of us have done something stupid, for which its a near miracle we made it to the future ;) | Dec 15 04:28 |
DaemonFC | AND a gallon of antifreeze sitting next to it | Dec 15 04:28 |
DaemonFC | and I stopped myself from drinking the antifreeze just in time | Dec 15 04:29 |
neigborlee | eek | Dec 15 04:29 |
Ender2070 | lol | Dec 15 04:29 |
Ender2070 | it would probably do less harm than mountain dew | Dec 15 04:29 |
DaemonFC | sometimes I wonder how I've been spared this massive criminal record | Dec 15 04:29 |
DaemonFC | I've driven incredibly drunk before too | Dec 15 04:30 |
DaemonFC | followed a police officer about 10 miles or so | Dec 15 04:30 |
Ender2070 | you know they use yellow #5 in mountain dew? its banned in Canada | Dec 15 04:30 |
Ender2070 | yellow#5 makes you sterile | Dec 15 04:30 |
DaemonFC | wondering to myself how far behind him I was | Dec 15 04:30 |
DaemonFC | hmmm | Dec 15 04:30 |
neigborlee | Ender2070: well , given that we dont have national 'health' care, who would be surprised we are to get sick and then die from lack of support ? ;) | Dec 15 04:31 |
DaemonFC | I sneaked my underage boyfriend into the bar one night | Dec 15 04:31 |
neigborlee | Ender2070: conspiracy theoriests are clapping loudly atm < hear the roar ? > ;) | Dec 15 04:31 |
DaemonFC | took them four hours to card him | Dec 15 04:31 |
DaemonFC | like a dozen drinks later | Dec 15 04:31 |
neigborlee | lol | Dec 15 04:31 |
Ender2070 | I follow conspiracy theories | Dec 15 04:32 |
DaemonFC | they told me "Get the FUCK out of here before the excise cops see this!!!" | Dec 15 04:32 |
Ender2070 | I don't accept all of them | Dec 15 04:32 |
Ender2070 | i keep an open mind though | Dec 15 04:32 |
neigborlee | yup one has to these days | Dec 15 04:32 |
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DaemonFC | so I was back at the same bar about a year later on New Year's, and everyone I was with was....NOT the designated driver | Dec 15 04:32 |
Ender2070 | just like I say, they are "theories" | Dec 15 04:32 |
DaemonFC | so we backed up on our way out and ran into a Cadillac | Dec 15 04:32 |
DaemonFC | set off their car alarm | Dec 15 04:32 |
Ender2070 | a lot of stuff points towards a one world government, and its not insane to think people want that | Dec 15 04:33 |
DaemonFC | all of us were cursing and finally we decided to jsut get the hell out of there | Dec 15 04:33 |
Ender2070 | I used to want it myself | Dec 15 04:33 |
Ender2070 | I had aspirations of world domination | Dec 15 04:33 |
Ender2070 | Realisticly, im likely to get killed trying | Dec 15 04:34 |
Ender2070 | survival > world domination | Dec 15 04:34 |
neigborlee | Ender2070: a one world government is not a bad thing, if we assume that ONE government is pacifistic and peaceful ;) | Dec 15 04:34 |
Ender2070 | not everyone would want it | Dec 15 04:35 |
DaemonFC | neigborlee: If there's a one world government, who is there to declare war on? | Dec 15 04:35 |
neigborlee | clearly | Dec 15 04:35 |
DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 04:35 |
Ender2070 | so the only way to achieve this goal is tyranny | Dec 15 04:35 |
Ender2070 | you declare war on those who disagree =) | Dec 15 04:35 |
Ender2070 | rebels, etc | Dec 15 04:35 |
DaemonFC | every government on Earth has already done that Ender2070 | Dec 15 04:35 |
DaemonFC | on their own civilians | Dec 15 04:35 |
Ender2070 | my goals were altruistic too | Dec 15 04:36 |
Ender2070 | I would forcibly take all of microsofts money, and use it to buy everyone a linux computer | Dec 15 04:37 |
DaemonFC | if there was one government, then all the military expenses in the world are gone too | Dec 15 04:37 |
Ender2070 | get everyone an internet connection | Dec 15 04:37 |
neigborlee | hehe | Dec 15 04:37 |
Ender2070 | then I had an idea for "food skyscrapers" | Dec 15 04:37 |
DaemonFC | but then there would also really be world police | Dec 15 04:37 |
DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 04:37 |
Ender2070 | special buildings that were designed to make better use of land | Dec 15 04:37 |
Omar87_ | schestowitz: hmm, interesting http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-12-15-002-35-OS-SW | Dec 15 04:38 |
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DaemonFC | Ender2070: Right now, there's a general standing agreement called NATO which in layman's terms is "Let's beat up that guy and steal his wallet" | Dec 15 04:38 |
Ender2070 | it would keep bugs out, we can make light now that simulates the suns light | Dec 15 04:38 |
DaemonFC | and I hate to break it to you, but Canada helps that out a lot | Dec 15 04:38 |
Ender2070 | NATO isn't what you're thinking of | Dec 15 04:38 |
Ender2070 | thats part of protecting north america against aircraft | Dec 15 04:38 |
Ender2070 | or ICBM's | Dec 15 04:39 |
DaemonFC | Coalition of the Drilling | Dec 15 04:39 |
DaemonFC | same thing | Dec 15 04:39 |
Ender2070 | if you guys let us advance our airplane project, we would've had planes that would've prevented 9/11 | Dec 15 04:39 |
Ender2070 | the avro arrow owned, and advanced models would've owned even more | Dec 15 04:40 |
Ender2070 | it took 2hrs for norad to scramble its own jets | Dec 15 04:40 |
DaemonFC | when they did get fighters in pursuit, they were diverted from a training mission | Dec 15 04:42 |
DaemonFC | and unarmed | Dec 15 04:42 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Dec 15 04:43 |
Ender2070 | from the west coast too | Dec 15 04:44 |
DaemonFC | inexcusable, with all the fighters in all the bases in the United States, we managed to send two unarmed F-16s that were already in the air? | Dec 15 04:44 |
DaemonFC | that's pitiful | Dec 15 04:44 |
DaemonFC | what if Russia invaded? | Dec 15 04:44 |
DaemonFC | I mean shit | Dec 15 04:44 |
Ender2070 | lol | Dec 15 04:44 |
Ender2070 | funny story: | Dec 15 04:44 |
Ender2070 | I was actually a red alert 2 addict when it happened, my first thought when I heard about the attack was "RUSSIANS!" | Dec 15 04:45 |
DaemonFC | "Well, they conquered us, but we managed to get two planes in the air while it was going on" | Dec 15 04:45 |
DaemonFC | Now the Russians must be pissed, knowing the Soviet Union could have invaded that easily | Dec 15 04:45 |
Ender2070 | you realize the terrorists probably picked 9/11 cause there was training they found out was going on | Dec 15 04:46 |
DaemonFC | how would they find that out? | Dec 15 04:46 |
DaemonFC | isn't stuff like that classified? | Dec 15 04:46 |
Ender2070 | yeah but they probably have people on the inside | Dec 15 04:46 |
Ender2070 | defectors | Dec 15 04:46 |
Ender2070 | the other possibility is that the government planned the training to let the terrorists get away with it | Dec 15 04:47 |
DaemonFC | could be coincidence though | Dec 15 04:47 |
DaemonFC | there's always a lot of training missions going on | Dec 15 04:47 |
Ender2070 | to start global wars | Dec 15 04:47 |
DaemonFC | I don't think our response plan was meant for something as small as 9/11 | Dec 15 04:47 |
Ender2070 | okams razor suggests the first idea | Dec 15 04:48 |
DaemonFC | Think about it, you'd have a lot of time to respond to a major invasion | Dec 15 04:48 |
Ender2070 | what if it was a nuke | Dec 15 04:48 |
DaemonFC | why plan for a hijacked 747? | Dec 15 04:48 |
DaemonFC | big militaries are kind of obsolete anyway | Dec 15 04:48 |
DaemonFC | What would a country like Russia do to attack us (without nukes)? | Dec 15 04:49 |
Ender2070 | not for actual wars | Dec 15 04:49 |
Ender2070 | umm | Dec 15 04:49 |
DaemonFC | A flotilla of aircraft carriers? | Dec 15 04:49 |
Ender2070 | giant blimbs that drop bombs | Dec 15 04:49 |
Ender2070 | apocalypse tanks | Dec 15 04:49 |
DaemonFC | sailing across the ocean? | Dec 15 04:49 |
Ender2070 | surges of infantry | Dec 15 04:49 |
Ender2070 | v3 rockets | Dec 15 04:49 |
Ender2070 | tesla tanks | Dec 15 04:50 |
DaemonFC | nukes make a conventional war impossible | Dec 15 04:50 |
Ender2070 | tesla troopers | Dec 15 04:50 |
Ender2070 | Boris | Dec 15 04:50 |
DaemonFC | the only people you can attack are people without nukes | Dec 15 04:50 |
DaemonFC | which is why Iran and North Korea want them | Dec 15 04:50 |
Ender2070 | submarines | Dec 15 04:50 |
Ender2070 | dreadnaught cruisers | Dec 15 04:50 |
Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnd0qg4I_MM | Dec 15 04:50 |
DaemonFC | Iran doesn't have any missiles that can reach us | Dec 15 04:51 |
DaemonFC | but they are within range of Israel | Dec 15 04:51 |
DaemonFC | they want the nukes as an insurance against a US attack | Dec 15 04:52 |
DaemonFC | we attack, they nuke Israel | Dec 15 04:52 |
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DaemonFC | if they nuke Israel, they're automatically at war with us | Dec 15 04:53 |
DaemonFC | we could level Iran | Dec 15 04:53 |
DaemonFC | easily, quickly | Dec 15 04:53 |
DaemonFC | that's why I don't think they'll attack unprovoked | Dec 15 04:53 |
DaemonFC | Iran's government has a lot of religious rhetoric and hatred of Israel, but they know damned well what we'd do to them | Dec 15 04:54 |
DaemonFC | they're not all suicidal | Dec 15 04:54 |
Ender2070 | did you see that video | Dec 15 04:54 |
Ender2070 | thats how russia would take over | Dec 15 04:54 |
DaemonFC | played that game | Dec 15 04:54 |
DaemonFC | uh huh..... | Dec 15 04:55 |
DaemonFC | I don't think they'd do it so easily | Dec 15 04:55 |
DaemonFC | or with Yuri | Dec 15 04:55 |
DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 04:55 |
Ender2070 | lol | Dec 15 04:55 |
Ender2070 | i owned so many people online in that game | Dec 15 04:55 |
DaemonFC | there were lots of cheaters in Tiberian Sun | Dec 15 04:56 |
DaemonFC | gave up trying to play that online | Dec 15 04:56 |
Ender2070 | tib sun sucked | Dec 15 04:56 |
Ender2070 | imo | Dec 15 04:56 |
DaemonFC | I liked it | Dec 15 04:56 |
DaemonFC | played it on my old Windows 98 box | Dec 15 04:56 |
Ender2070 | i liked the solo campaign | Dec 15 04:57 |
DaemonFC | loved that system | Dec 15 04:57 |
Ender2070 | and firestorms | Dec 15 04:57 |
DaemonFC | has a special place in my heart | Dec 15 04:57 |
Ender2070 | online sucked | Dec 15 04:57 |
DaemonFC | yeah, one guy let me build a badass army and wasn't attacking | Dec 15 04:57 |
DaemonFC | I wondered why, so I deployed my forces to march over and rip up his base | Dec 15 04:57 |
DaemonFC | and he hits me with like 500 bombers at once | Dec 15 04:58 |
DaemonFC | obviously cheating | Dec 15 04:58 |
DaemonFC | that's why online sucked | Dec 15 04:58 |
Ender2070 | heres the thing | Dec 15 04:58 |
DaemonFC | I play fair, I don't use trainers in multiplayer | Dec 15 04:59 |
DaemonFC | that really pisses me off | Dec 15 04:59 |
Ender2070 | you could make custom maps and embed a custom rules.ini file in them | Dec 15 04:59 |
Ender2070 | the rules.ini made changes to the game | Dec 15 04:59 |
Ender2070 | you couldnt use trainers online | Dec 15 04:59 |
Ender2070 | it detected both clients werent the same | Dec 15 04:59 |
DaemonFC | so crude version of Punkbuster, basically | Dec 15 05:00 |
Ender2070 | but you make a rules.ini file that makes everything for nod cost nothing | Dec 15 05:00 |
Ender2070 | or build instantly, etc | Dec 15 05:00 |
Ender2070 | you could give every unit lasers | Dec 15 05:00 |
Ender2070 | basicly anything you wanted | Dec 15 05:00 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: You figure I could get my Fallout 3 working in Wine? | Dec 15 05:00 |
DaemonFC | I haven't bothered trying yet, it's buggy enough on Windows | Dec 15 05:01 |
Ender2070 | probably not | Dec 15 05:01 |
Ender2070 | fallout 3 is kickass though | Dec 15 05:01 |
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DaemonFC | there's a howto on AppDB | Dec 15 05:01 |
DaemonFC | but I've never really had lots of luck with those | Dec 15 05:01 |
Ender2070 | best thing to do in that game is make a female | Dec 15 05:01 |
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DaemonFC | if I could play it on Linux then that would give me one less incentive to keep Windows 7 around | Dec 15 05:02 |
Ender2070 | you might question my suggestion but dont, ill explain | Dec 15 05:02 |
DaemonFC | female? why? | Dec 15 05:02 |
DaemonFC | too late | Dec 15 05:02 |
DaemonFC | :P | Dec 15 05:02 |
Ender2070 | theres a trait called "Black Widow" that lets you do 10% extra damage to men | Dec 15 05:02 |
Ender2070 | most enemies in the game are men | Dec 15 05:02 |
DaemonFC | There's a Lady Killer for males | Dec 15 05:02 |
Ender2070 | yes but not many female enemies | Dec 15 05:02 |
DaemonFC | oh | Dec 15 05:02 |
DaemonFC | so even monsters? | Dec 15 05:03 |
Ender2070 | if they are male | Dec 15 05:03 |
DaemonFC | does it take gender into account for those? | Dec 15 05:03 |
Ender2070 | im not sure | Dec 15 05:03 |
Ender2070 | i think they are considered male | Dec 15 05:03 |
Ender2070 | also dont put leveling points into weapons at all | Dec 15 05:04 |
Ender2070 | err | Dec 15 05:04 |
DaemonFC | why is that? | Dec 15 05:04 |
Ender2070 | into the skills | Dec 15 05:04 |
Ender2070 | like the +5 every level skill | Dec 15 05:04 |
Ender2070 | it stops making a difference at a certain point | Dec 15 05:04 |
DaemonFC | it uses a modified version of Oblivion's rules obviously | Dec 15 05:05 |
Ender2070 | i think it caps around 55 | Dec 15 05:05 |
Ender2070 | so if you got the +5 skill each level and you get there, its going to keep going up and you'll not benefit | Dec 15 05:06 |
Ender2070 | also do the fire ant mission early on and get the perception | Dec 15 05:06 |
DaemonFC | so you're wasting points to go higher than 55? | Dec 15 05:06 |
Ender2070 | i think so | Dec 15 05:06 |
Ender2070 | www.gamefaqs.com has plenty of character guys | Dec 15 05:06 |
Ender2070 | guides | Dec 15 05:07 |
DaemonFC | ugggh, my mouth is still a bit numb from the dentist earlier | Dec 15 05:07 |
DaemonFC | :P | Dec 15 05:07 |
DaemonFC | I forgot I already had one filling that I got when I was 17 | Dec 15 05:07 |
Ender2070 | i made a character optimized for the brotherhood of steel stuff | Dec 15 05:07 |
DaemonFC | so I was like "are you sure?" | Dec 15 05:07 |
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DaemonFC | I'm $230 lighter for two small fillings | Dec 15 05:18 |
DaemonFC | glad the cavities weren't deeper or it would have cost $360 | Dec 15 05:18 |
Ender2070 | oh no i meant for the power armour | Dec 15 05:18 |
Ender2070 | i focused a lot on small arms | Dec 15 05:18 |
Ender2070 | those are the most common types of weapons in the game | Dec 15 05:19 |
DaemonFC | you can use a cheat to enable Power Armor before you're supposed to be able to wear it | Dec 15 05:19 |
Ender2070 | cheating isnt fun | Dec 15 05:19 |
DaemonFC | one or two little cheat codes to speed things along a bit | Dec 15 05:19 |
DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 05:19 |
Ender2070 | lol | Dec 15 05:20 |
Ender2070 | I used to cheat in games all the time | Dec 15 05:20 |
Ender2070 | I have more fun not cheating | Dec 15 05:20 |
Ender2070 | feels more fullfilling when you beat a game | Dec 15 05:20 |
DaemonFC | invincibility makes the game not fun | Dec 15 05:20 |
DaemonFC | I never use those codes | Dec 15 05:20 |
Ender2070 | ill cheat in a game after i beat it | Dec 15 05:20 |
Ender2070 | ever play fable 2? | Dec 15 05:21 |
DaemonFC | no | Dec 15 05:21 |
Ender2070 | that game is so easy you dont have to cheat | Dec 15 05:21 |
Ender2070 | i play it at my friends all the time | Dec 15 05:21 |
Ender2070 | its an rpg | Dec 15 05:21 |
DaemonFC | this PC is new, it replaces a crap PC that wouldn't run any games so didn't have Windows at all | Dec 15 05:21 |
DaemonFC | *shrug* | Dec 15 05:21 |
Ender2070 | fable 2 is an xcrap360 game | Dec 15 05:21 |
DaemonFC | Fable 2 is not for PC? | Dec 15 05:22 |
Ender2070 | not that im aware of | Dec 15 05:22 |
Ender2070 | heres the funny thing | Dec 15 05:22 |
Ender2070 | you buy houses in this game, and you can rent them out | Dec 15 05:22 |
Ender2070 | you earn money even when the system is off | Dec 15 05:22 |
Ender2070 | so i would go to my friends each week and have money to buy more houses | Dec 15 05:22 |
DaemonFC | I went a few years on Linux jsut because the system I had wouldn't run any games at all | Dec 15 05:22 |
DaemonFC | now that I have one that can, I'm handcuffed to Windows | Dec 15 05:23 |
Ender2070 | now im a billionare in that game | Dec 15 05:23 |
Ender2070 | without hardly playing | Dec 15 05:23 |
Ender2070 | another funny thing | Dec 15 05:23 |
Ender2070 | you can buy experience points | Dec 15 05:23 |
DaemonFC | do you get to not repair them and raise the rent all the time? | Dec 15 05:23 |
DaemonFC | cause that was two landlords ago for me :D | Dec 15 05:23 |
Ender2070 | you dont need to repair them | Dec 15 05:23 |
Ender2070 | but | Dec 15 05:24 |
Ender2070 | you can raise the rent | Dec 15 05:24 |
DaemonFC | can they get pissed about it and leave? :) | Dec 15 05:24 |
Ender2070 | if you do, you become more evil | Dec 15 05:24 |
Ender2070 | they cant leave | Dec 15 05:24 |
Ender2070 | you have to force them out | Dec 15 05:24 |
Ender2070 | they always pay but it makes you more evil | Dec 15 05:24 |
Ender2070 | then people dont like you | Dec 15 05:25 |
Ender2070 | and they charge you more for stuff | Dec 15 05:25 |
Ender2070 | i bought every house in the game | Dec 15 05:25 |
Ender2070 | rented them all out dirt cheap | Dec 15 05:25 |
Ender2070 | everyone loves me, and im rich | Dec 15 05:25 |
Ender2070 | when you lower rent your goodness rating goes up | Dec 15 05:26 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: http://www.mojvideo.com/video-family-guy-mexican-superfriends/a319f71edc53fe5abecd | Dec 15 05:26 |
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Ender2070 | its kinda like sims and an rpg all rolled up in one i guess | Dec 15 05:26 |
Ender2070 | lol family guy | Dec 15 05:27 |
Ender2070 | they offend everyone | Dec 15 05:27 |
DaemonFC | best family guy skit ever | Dec 15 05:27 |
Ender2070 | nah not the best | Dec 15 05:27 |
Ender2070 | funny tho | Dec 15 05:27 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @tinucherian: @gorisf To shave or not to shave is our birth right.. We can't let Gillette decide it ! #savebeardindia | Dec 15 06:02 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @eduvid: Post online-CAT disaster, IIMs plan to switch to FOSS #foss http://tinyurl.com/ybodevk | Dec 15 06:38 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @anniezaidi: Look. Listen.: I have spoken of two violent incidents in parts of the country where tribals live, an... http://bit.ly/90252O | Dec 15 06:41 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @eduvid Post online-CAT disaster, IIMs plan to switch to FOSS #foss http://tinyurl.com/ybodevk | Dec 15 06:41 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] In a consultation on #csr and #tourism organised by kabani, keralatourismwatch and eed. | Dec 15 06:55 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] the discussion on csr in indian context was interesting . A lot of examples analysing/exposing csr bad and good practices were shared | Dec 15 06:58 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] i shared the example of #nasscom foundations diversion of #csr money to m$ in the name of giving free copies of windows7 to ngos | Dec 15 07:01 | |
Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrNh8b_0elw | Dec 15 07:03 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] sovergine state follows a divine law . Market follows no law or some law. Civil society emerges as space 4 aspirations of marginalised | Dec 15 07:06 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] There is no shared view of corporate social responsibility . In domains like tourism it is too difficult | Dec 15 07:09 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] #csrintourism charity argument in csr need to be unfolded and analysed and relooked. Moral or ethical angle need to be unfolded | Dec 15 07:14 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] #csrintourism in the case of csr , we only have negative examples. Not much positive ones | Dec 15 07:17 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] Questions on the need of state regulation on #csr since all the money spend on csr is tax excempted. #csrintourism | Dec 15 07:36 | |
MinceR | http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/12/14/1847256/Microsoft-Fined-In-India-For-Using-Money-Power-Against-Pirates?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 | Dec 15 07:47 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Yellow Tshirts against software patents: http://i5.be/2N | Dec 15 08:52 | |
schestowitz | > Why do you link to the Linux Blog Safari? What self respecting gnu/linux user | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > would subject their family to Windows 7 after Vista? | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/68885.html | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 15 08:52 |
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schestowitz | > "You know that the spirit of the season has expanded some hearts when a Linux | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > geek actually suggests the gift of Windows 7 -- "for all those poor souls in | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > your family trapped on Vista," Slashdot blogger hairyfeet quickly added. " | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > This is obvious astroturf of the sort that crops up at every new Windows | Dec 15 08:52 |
schestowitz | > release, "Go buy Windows, this one is better." | Dec 15 08:52 |
cubezzz | I wish I could say I stopped at windows 2.0 | Dec 15 09:03 |
cubezzz | the problem back then was Unix System V was reallty expensive | Dec 15 09:03 |
schestowitz | http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/us/politics/15brfs-MISSINGBUSHE_BRF.html?_r=2 | Dec 15 09:04 |
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cubezzz | you could call it an early dark ages of computing | Dec 15 09:04 |
schestowitz | http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/12/091214-octopus-carries-coconuts-coconut-carrying.html | Dec 15 09:04 |
phIRCe-local | Title: "Bizarre" Octopuses Carry Coconuts as Instant Shelters .::. Size~: 28.62 KB | Dec 15 09:04 |
cubezzz | http://www.aleutia.com | Dec 15 09:14 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @arnabdotorg flic.kr, goo.gl, fb.me.. i'm sure the poor guy @ICANN who had the idea 2 intrduce country-specific TLDs is turning in sleep | Dec 15 09:15 | |
cubezzz | D1 Desktop uses Dual Core Atom Processor, 4 GB Ram | Dec 15 09:16 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @eduvid: I will too RT: @jithesh_e_j: If GNOME ditches GNU, I'll ditch GNOME! | Dec 15 09:17 | |
cubezzz | 35 watts | Dec 15 09:18 |
schestowitz | Now FB..... http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/14/facebook-url-shortener-makes-appearance | Dec 15 09:21 |
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schestowitz | Google also | Dec 15 09:21 |
cubezzz | even better, you can get a solar panel to power the Aleutia E2 :-0 | Dec 15 09:23 |
cubezzz | Aleutia E2 by itself: 8 watts | Dec 15 09:23 |
cubezzz | with 8" LCD: 18 watts | Dec 15 09:23 |
schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/12/myspace-imeem-deal/ | Dec 15 09:26 |
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schestowitz | OMG! http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/vancouver-orders-removal-of-anti-olympic-mural/article1396541/ | Dec 15 09:29 |
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schestowitz | Ender2070: you've gotta tease those censors. | Dec 15 09:29 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/14/chrome_dns_query_bug/ | Dec 15 09:38 |
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schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/14/accenture_dumps_woods/ | Dec 15 09:40 |
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schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/14/google_recaptcha_busted/ | Dec 15 09:42 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Google's reCAPTCHA busted by new attack • The Register .::. Size~: 31.38 KB | Dec 15 09:42 |
schestowitz | "I really hope that Google (or Microsoft, or Yahoo, or whoever) figures out which set of knobs on the sides of the big search engines to twist to get us back to where things were when they worked better. But until that happens, I can see one way forward that I don’t think can be gamed; we’ll just have to rely increasingly on people and their reputations. ¶" | Dec 15 09:46 |
schestowitz | http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/12/14/Internet-Inflection-Point | Dec 15 09:46 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/16755745 "!fsf holiday party was pretty sweet! The hamburgers at the Cellar are SO GOOD" | Dec 15 09:46 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/16745743 "I agree with @rms that !GNOME Planet should not be used for promoting unrelated proprietary software. It should be about " | Dec 15 09:47 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/16745451 | Dec 15 09:48 |
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cubezzz | Fast food ads Vs Reality: | Dec 15 09:54 |
cubezzz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbCwi6EeNAE&feature=related | Dec 15 09:54 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♲ I agree with @rms that #GNOME Planet should not be used for promoting unrelated proprietary software. It should be about #FLOSS. #gnu #fsf | Dec 15 09:56 | |
schestowitz | cubezzz: http://nerdious.com/files/2009/10/windows-7-burger-video.JPG | Dec 15 09:57 |
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cubezzz | that first arby's one really looks bad | Dec 15 09:57 |
schestowitz | Fantasy food | Dec 15 09:58 |
cubezzz | is the one in the commercial plastic or something? :) | Dec 15 09:58 |
schestowitz | Has someone tested honest advertising laws/regulations? | Dec 15 09:58 |
cubezzz | well, I stopped with the fast food about 5 years ago | Dec 15 09:59 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lZkKFXQ14 | Dec 15 10:00 |
schestowitz | New, in McDonalds | Dec 15 10:00 |
cubezzz | McDonalds..? | Dec 15 10:11 |
cubezzz | it seems to be about Princess Diana | Dec 15 10:11 |
cubezzz | oh now I see McDonalds :) | Dec 15 10:13 |
cubezzz | wow, he's quite brave | Dec 15 10:13 |
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cubezzz | schestowitz, who is that guy? | Dec 15 10:15 |
schestowitz | He's being an arse sometimes, but Danny, the guy he's doing some skits with, is funny | Dec 15 10:22 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUI4ITCLcA0 | Dec 15 10:22 |
cubezzz | it would be funnier if he did that in a big computer store :) | Dec 15 10:25 |
schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142224/Oracle_s_pledges_on_MySQL_are_purely_cosmetic_say_critics | Dec 15 10:26 |
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schestowitz | MSMueller, via Microsoft Meller | Dec 15 10:26 |
schestowitz | http://www.dvhardware.net/articles25_fastra_2_desktop_supercomputer.html | Dec 15 10:28 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sankarshan: @anivar All that talk of "ditching" is somewhat unfounded and FUD-ish #gnome | Dec 15 10:32 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @ghoseb: Wow, the GNOME Foundation mailing list is now holding a huge mud-slinging contest. | Dec 15 10:33 | |
schestowitz | Hmmmmmmm... they overcomplicate things... http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/feature/1565967/how-install-thunderbird-linux | Dec 15 10:39 |
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oiaohm | http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2009/dec/14/busybox-gpl-lawsuit/ Hmm who was the one that was spitting anti Linux doc for MS. Best buy ? | Dec 15 10:47 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Best Buy, Samsung, Westinghouse, And Eleven Other Brands Named In SFLC Lawsuit - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 7.47 KB | Dec 15 10:47 |
schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9142267/Nook_e_reader_gains_new_appeal_as_rooted_wireless_tablet?taxonomyId=75 | Dec 15 10:49 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Nook e-reader gains new appeal as 'rooted' wireless tablet .::. Size~: 135.22 KB | Dec 15 10:49 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: yes | Dec 15 10:49 |
schestowitz | And Samsung and JVC signed anti-Linux patent deals | Dec 15 10:50 |
oiaohm | Interesting that they were using it in one of there own products schestowitz | Dec 15 10:50 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: I was about to write about it in the afternoon | Dec 15 10:51 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: how so? | Dec 15 10:51 |
schestowitz | Please elaborate | Dec 15 10:51 |
schestowitz | I mean, they pay Microsoft for using Linux | Dec 15 10:52 |
schestowitz | Yet they also hide FOSS in their wares | Dec 15 10:52 |
schestowitz | Pearly is paying fake journos to worship him...... | Dec 15 10:53 |
schestowitz | http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2009/12/14/4404381.html | Dec 15 10:53 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Gates Keepers :: Training on journalism advancing the interests of the Gates Foundation or the interests of Africans .::. Size~: 20.18 KB | Dec 15 10:53 |
oiaohm | Best buy blueray player contains linux and source code is not released. | Dec 15 10:53 |
oiaohm | Lot are getting caught hidding and disobeying GPL. | Dec 15 10:54 |
schestowitz | SFLC shows how widespread FS is | Dec 15 10:57 |
schestowitz | Under people's noses | Dec 15 10:57 |
schestowitz | "The military now uses the Thunderbird client on over 80,000 computers, with other government ministries now using the software." | Dec 15 10:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.smartcompany.com.au/information-technology/20091214-french-military-says-mozilla-software-more-secure-than-microsoft-2.html | Dec 15 10:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.voxy.co.nz/business/top-geeks-converge-wellington/5/33114 Are you going, oiaohm? | Dec 15 11:00 |
phIRCe-local | Title: Top Geeks To Converge On Wellington | Voxy.co.nz .::. Size~: 33.05 KB | Dec 15 11:00 |
schestowitz | SCOster: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Murphy/?p=1744 | Dec 15 11:01 |
schestowitz | What do people make of this? http://www.thinkdigit.com/Features/The-Creator-of-MySQL-calls-out-for_3824.html | Dec 15 11:06 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @Info_Activism: #10tactics & Tactical Tech's co-founders Steph Hankey & Marek Tuszynski on Digital Planet on BBC World http://bit.ly/Sezj | Dec 15 11:09 | |
phIRCe-local | Title: BBC World Service - Science - Digital Planet .::. Size~: 31.92 KB | Dec 15 11:09 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/184558/mysql_creator_launches_campaign_to_save_database.html Any thoughts? | Dec 15 11:14 |
phIRCe-local | Title: MySQL Creator Launches Campaign to 'save' Database - PC World Business Center .::. Size~: 61.61 KB | Dec 15 11:14 |
oiaohm | Nop schestowitz really if I get over to NZ it would take me about a years to get out of there after visiting all my releations. | Dec 15 11:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.mainjustice.com/2009/12/14/as-eu-softens-line-on-oracle-grassroots-push-back/ | Dec 15 11:18 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: did you know this? Surely you do... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C9XNHmTb48#t=360 | Dec 15 11:18 |
oiaohm | They got it badly wrong. Internal of australia was a forest that was not that fire tollernet. | Dec 15 11:23 |
oiaohm | We have the first australian to thank for large internal deserts. | Dec 15 11:23 |
schestowitz | Cool: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/184585/erp_vendor_offers_to_take_over_mysql.html | Dec 15 11:24 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: so how did they get it wrong? | Dec 15 11:24 |
schestowitz | You man, the programme or the people? | Dec 15 11:24 |
schestowitz | *man->mean | Dec 15 11:25 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: programme | Dec 15 11:25 |
schestowitz | But that's what they said, no? | Dec 15 11:25 |
oiaohm | The fossal records in australian says the internal was a large form of pine forest. | Dec 15 11:25 |
schestowitz | I hadn't realise this can change the climate really | Dec 15 11:25 |
oiaohm | You don't want to add fire to them. | Dec 15 11:25 |
oiaohm | Results are kinda nukular. | Dec 15 11:26 |
schestowitz | Sad. | Dec 15 11:26 |
schestowitz | They turned it to Martian land | Dec 15 11:26 |
oiaohm | It was not fires over generations. | Dec 15 11:26 |
oiaohm | They got ot a section that did not tollerate fire and splat. | Dec 15 11:26 |
oiaohm | Distruption ending the perminate inland sea in australia. | Dec 15 11:27 |
oiaohm | And that kinda had major kock on effects. | Dec 15 11:28 |
schestowitz | How did man reach Australia so early? | Dec 15 11:28 |
schestowitz | No canoe back then | Dec 15 11:28 |
oiaohm | Dry land. | Dec 15 11:28 |
oiaohm | Ice ages caused land bridges. | Dec 15 11:29 |
schestowitz | For sure? | Dec 15 11:29 |
oiaohm | Time line matches. | Dec 15 11:29 |
schestowitz | I can see it in Alaska, but Aussie? | Dec 15 11:30 |
schestowitz | I find it ironic BTW that Britain sent prisoners to AU and now the British economy is in ruins whereas AU is tolerant | Dec 15 11:30 |
oiaohm | People cannot see that tasmaina and pupu gunnie was one land mass let alone the rest of the bridges | Dec 15 11:30 |
schestowitz | I have a friend whose son live in Australia and you guys hardly feel the subprime tsunami | Dec 15 11:31 |
oiaohm | When had our subprime in the gold rush times here in australia schestowitz | Dec 15 11:31 |
oiaohm | Lot of fly by night banks back then. | Dec 15 11:31 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: well, many Pacific island could vanish from the map soon | Dec 15 11:31 |
oiaohm | Made the subprime item look like a joke. | Dec 15 11:32 |
oiaohm | Gold age here banks did stupid thinks like buying up mining claims with no sure gold on them. | Dec 15 11:32 |
oiaohm | Yes we had out subprime early so banking rules were created to prevent it from happening again. | Dec 15 11:33 |
schestowitz | Well, US Mint has been unhinged off gold for decades | Dec 15 11:33 |
schestowitz | Full list of companies sued: http://www.examiner.com/x-32162-LA-Business-Tech-Examiner~y2009m12d14-Best-Buy-Samsung-Westinghouse-and-11-more-named-in-open-source-lawsuit | Dec 15 11:33 |
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oiaohm | Australian gold rush time was a long time ago schestowitz | Dec 15 11:34 |
oiaohm | We learnt fromt hat. | Dec 15 11:34 |
oiaohm | that. | Dec 15 11:34 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Yellow tshirts against Software Patents: http://i5.be/2P | Dec 15 11:35 | |
oiaohm | The USA had as well but there stupid goverment removed the protections placed after the usa gold rush age schestowitz | Dec 15 11:35 |
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oiaohm | So leading to the subprime schestowitz | Dec 15 11:35 |
oiaohm | What supprises me is the UK was incharage of australian when the gold rush stuff up happen yet the UK banking rules did not learn from it. | Dec 15 11:37 |
schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10415298-56.html | Dec 15 11:46 |
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oiaohm | third-party Chinese vendor hired for the task. This is coming a quite frequent happening schestowitz | Dec 15 11:48 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @privacyint: Finally reading: NYTimes editorial on government surveillance of social networking. http://is.gd/5oooj | Dec 15 11:53 | |
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schestowitz | They are still liable | Dec 15 12:11 |
schestowitz | It's like their offshoring of AstroTurfing | Dec 15 12:12 |
schestowitz | They will try to blame "Edelman" or something for the bribe | Dec 15 12:12 |
schestowitz | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/bizarre_cathedral_62 | Dec 15 12:14 |
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schestowitz | http://microsofttaxdodge.com/2009/12/how-nevada-lures-nearby-businesses.html | Dec 15 12:18 |
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schestowitz | Linux needs more screenshots like this, not human-GNOME... http://blog.chatonka.com/2009/12/timevault-progress-update/ | Dec 15 12:24 |
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schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Dec 15 12:37 |
schestowitz | > | Dec 15 12:38 |
schestowitz | > Looks like CBC has an ideological axe to grind: | Dec 15 12:38 |
schestowitz | > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1355461 | Dec 15 12:38 |
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schestowitz | I won't link to the whole 1% BS. | Dec 15 12:38 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: maybe you can complain to them | Dec 15 12:38 |
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schestowitz | Sun says gnu is ugly... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2045707288429324613&hl=en&emb=1# | Dec 15 12:53 |
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schestowitz | The code.. | Dec 15 12:53 |
oiaohm | GNU code is ugly. | Dec 15 12:56 |
oiaohm | But there is worse | Dec 15 12:57 |
MinceR | openssl, for example | Dec 15 13:08 |
MinceR | also, sun is not to be trusted when they're dissing GNU or Linux | Dec 15 13:08 |
MinceR | they're clearly hostile | Dec 15 13:08 |
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MinceR | i doubt that some FUD will be enough to make slowlaris relevant, though | Dec 15 13:10 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: Oracle might not keep it | Dec 15 13:25 |
MinceR | oracle could choose either direction | Dec 15 13:26 |
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MinceR | or they might even fail to buy sun after all | Dec 15 13:26 |
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schestowitz | Maybe. | Dec 15 13:28 |
schestowitz | Not sure yet | Dec 15 13:28 |
schestowitz | Either way, it's bad for Sun | Dec 15 13:28 |
MinceR | i doubt anyone is sure yet | Dec 15 13:28 |
schestowitz | And leading to less choice | Dec 15 13:28 |
schestowitz | It's sweepup time for conglomerates | Dec 15 13:28 |
schestowitz | Time to 'consume' competitors | Dec 15 13:29 |
schestowitz | And keep users of mysql more frightened of the free product | Dec 15 13:29 |
MinceR | they could try postgresql :> | Dec 15 13:29 |
schestowitz | Maybe they'll buy them too :-) | Dec 15 13:30 |
schestowitz | Or IBM | Dec 15 13:30 |
schestowitz | EnterpriseDB got some money from the Blue | Dec 15 13:30 |
schestowitz | BTW, I didn't know DEC was the first with mainframes | Dec 15 13:30 |
MinceR | lol @ oracle buying ibm | Dec 15 13:30 |
schestowitz | Turns out IBM was only transforming from typewriters and machines like that in the dawn of it all | Dec 15 13:30 |
schestowitz | MinceR: they can't | Dec 15 13:30 |
MinceR | i know | Dec 15 13:31 |
schestowitz | Unless it shrinks | Dec 15 13:31 |
schestowitz | Google could bought 5 years ago | Dec 15 13:31 |
schestowitz | Now it's a serial buyer | Dec 15 13:31 |
schestowitz | Love the titans /sarcasm | Dec 15 13:31 |
schestowitz | BTW, work insecurity that's a new thing ensures no unions or standing up for market diversity, which is said | Dec 15 13:31 |
schestowitz | Wages of people had stagnated by 7% for the lower 90% of US poplation (taxpayers) | Dec 15 13:32 |
schestowitz | Top 0.01% saw it going up 600% but it's kept away from sight | Dec 15 13:32 |
schestowitz | So Oracle's moves as representative of this trend | Dec 15 13:33 |
schestowitz | Less things in the middle | Dec 15 13:33 |
schestowitz | More super-rich, less of the people in between them and the underprivileged | Dec 15 13:33 |
schestowitz | Developing world depends on mysql | Dec 15 13:33 |
schestowitz | Mysql has ~45% market share in developing nations | Dec 15 13:33 |
schestowitz | So the Oracle move has ramification for a lot more than just EU | Dec 15 13:34 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sebinaj: RD @suresh: Google's effort in monopolizing the #web continues. Now, it is url shortner => http://is.gd/5osLr | Dec 15 13:34 | |
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schestowitz | It's like the Microsoft 'piracy' game over Windows in nations it exploits | Dec 15 13:34 |
schestowitz | Heh. Goo.gl | Dec 15 13:34 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @cjpkar: Salwa Judum stages protest outside VCA. Himanshu "not allowed" to leave his home. volunteers needed to help Jan sunwai | Dec 15 13:35 | |
schestowitz | MinceR: skip to 38:00 http://mitworld.mit.edu/video/182 | Dec 15 13:37 |
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schestowitz | Illusion of competition | Dec 15 13:37 |
schestowitz | They pass both cost and risk to taxpayers who pay for limited competition by giants who also cooperate | Dec 15 13:37 |
MinceR | can't watch videos now | Dec 15 13:38 |
schestowitz | OK | Dec 15 13:38 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows and Helplessness as a Mindset http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/6928/1/ | Dec 15 14:42 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux Had a Great Year in 2009 Despite Economic Collapse http://ur1.ca/hwiz | Dec 15 14:43 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] World's Pioneering in #Motorbikes to be Powered by #Linux http://ur1.ca/hwj0 | Dec 15 14:44 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] University of Antwerp Builds #GNU #Linux Super Desktop with Many GPUs http://ur1.ca/hwj1 | Dec 15 14:46 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Desktop #GNU #Linux Benefits from/Unaffected by Diversity http://ur1.ca/hwj8 | Dec 15 14:47 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] rediscovering the magic of Discworld | Dec 15 15:03 | |
schestowitz | Hey, pawel_121_ | Dec 15 15:04 |
pawel_121_ | schestowitz hi :) | Dec 15 15:04 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] omputer Game #Aquaria is Coming to #GNU #Linux http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzgwNA | Dec 15 15:05 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TimeVault for GNU/Linux is a Go http://blog.chatonka.com/2009/12/timevault-progress-update/ | Dec 15 15:06 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Moovida #Media Center Reviewed http://www.raiden.net/articles/review_moovida_media_center/ | Dec 15 15:06 | |
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Ender2070 | I don't like OSNews anymore | Dec 15 15:07 |
Ender2070 | they ignored my submission for this "The FSF needs to change. It needs to face the new reality, i.e., one wherein most people (developers) within the F/OSS community recognise the necessity for interoperability and cooperation with established proprietary software vendors. F/OSS is no longer developer-centric - it has become user-centric. It seems like RMS is oblivious to this change in perspective." | Dec 15 15:08 |
Ender2070 | and put bullshit up | Dec 15 15:09 |
Ender2070 | http://www.osnews.com/story/22610/GNOME_To_Split_from_GNU_Project_ | Dec 15 15:09 |
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Ender2070 | completely ignored what I submitted, probably because i wasn't attacking RMS | Dec 15 15:09 |
schestowitz | OS News has been bad for years | Dec 15 15:12 |
schestowitz | Thom ruined it | Dec 15 15:12 |
schestowitz | he's anti-FS | Dec 15 15:12 |
Ender2070 | it was Thom | Dec 15 15:12 |
schestowitz | Of course | Dec 15 15:13 |
schestowitz | I was gonna wrote about this | Dec 15 15:13 |
Ender2070 | they've pulled other stuff I wrote | Dec 15 15:13 |
schestowitz | I saw his rant a few hours ago | Dec 15 15:13 |
Ender2070 | I emailed him about it | Dec 15 15:13 |
Ender2070 | asking him why lxer and slashdot featured it but not his site | Dec 15 15:13 |
schestowitz | Share what happens later | Dec 15 15:15 |
schestowitz | Groklaw also complained about his rants | Dec 15 15:15 |
schestowitz | PJ... | Dec 15 15:15 |
schestowitz | He distorted some argument over the GPL | Dec 15 15:15 |
Ender2070 | you dont have to tell me :) | Dec 15 15:15 |
Ender2070 | i remember he pushed to have linux's filesystem match windows | Dec 15 15:16 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Approaches Businesses in EMEA Region http://ur1.ca/hwl2 | Dec 15 15:16 | |
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Ender2070 | he wanted /users/documents and /users/settings seperate | Dec 15 15:16 |
Ender2070 | bs imp | Dec 15 15:16 |
Ender2070 | imo | Dec 15 15:16 |
schestowitz | They have in change people who don't like Linux | Dec 15 15:16 |
Ender2070 | FHS is fine | Dec 15 15:16 |
schestowitz | Sometimes cause these people are associated with funders | Dec 15 15:17 |
schestowitz | It has become a disease | Dec 15 15:17 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I earned the Curious George(100) sticker on #GetGlue! http://bit.ly/6n66tm | Dec 15 15:17 | |
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schestowitz | Yes, he's a WIndows fan, so.. | Dec 15 15:17 |
schestowitz | re FS | Dec 15 15:17 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Dec 15 15:17 |
schestowitz | He's the reason I unsubcribed 2 years ago | Dec 15 15:18 |
schestowitz | Then I found out I wasn't alone.. others said the same | Dec 15 15:18 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux is Preferred (Over Windows) and What Comes Next http://ur1.ca/hwl5 http://ur1.ca/hwl6 | Dec 15 15:18 | |
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schestowitz | They aired the "get the facts" LSE anti-Linux ads | Dec 15 15:18 |
schestowitz | Well, maybe AdSense did to be fair | Dec 15 15:18 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TouchScreen Monitors in #Linux , Even with Multiple Monitors http://ur1.ca/hwl9 | Dec 15 15:19 | |
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Ender2070 | adsense probably detected the pro ms bias and displayed them | Dec 15 15:19 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Nook is Open for Hacking, Web Surfing, Etc. http://ur1.ca/hwlf http://ur1.ca/hwlg | Dec 15 15:20 | |
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cubezzz | I've never run any anti-linux ads, as far as I know | Dec 15 15:20 |
Ender2070 | I don't run any ads | Dec 15 15:20 |
Ender2070 | If I did I would consider myself a hypocrite | Dec 15 15:20 |
cubezzz | running linux ads is OK | Dec 15 15:21 |
cubezzz | or public service ads | Dec 15 15:21 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] $PARTNER sent merry xmas to monitoring-spam address. images in it are on their local CMS and require login to access. well done. | Dec 15 15:22 | |
Ender2070 | nah i run adblock | Dec 15 15:22 |
cubezzz | people need hosting and other services | Dec 15 15:22 |
cubezzz | ah, I see | Dec 15 15:22 |
Ender2070 | i dont believe in advertising | Dec 15 15:22 |
Ender2070 | plus | Dec 15 15:22 |
Ender2070 | it could make me liable for damages if I got into a fair use lawsuit | Dec 15 15:22 |
cubezzz | I'm not sure I understand | Dec 15 15:23 |
Ender2070 | I don't want to give the olympics ammo for what im gonna do | Dec 15 15:23 |
Ender2070 | well | Dec 15 15:23 |
Ender2070 | if you have ads they can argue you profited from the use of their copyright | Dec 15 15:23 |
Ender2070 | which can earn them "actual damages" which are seperate from statutory damages | Dec 15 15:24 |
cubezzz | the publisher wants people to see their ads | Dec 15 15:24 |
Ender2070 | nonono | Dec 15 15:24 |
Ender2070 | lets say I make a parody of some picture | Dec 15 15:25 |
cubezzz | ? | Dec 15 15:25 |
Ender2070 | and I get sued for it | Dec 15 15:25 |
Ender2070 | they can say I profitted from making the parody | Dec 15 15:25 |
Ender2070 | because i had ads | Dec 15 15:25 |
Ender2070 | the website itself was earning me money | Dec 15 15:25 |
cubezzz | I think parodies are protected under copyright | Dec 15 15:26 |
cubezzz | otherwise comedians would be in a lot of trouble | Dec 15 15:26 |
Ender2070 | its just an example but you're right | Dec 15 15:26 |
Ender2070 | but thats the case 99% of the time | Dec 15 15:27 |
Ender2070 | its usually protected | Dec 15 15:27 |
Ender2070 | sometimes its not, depending on the use | Dec 15 15:27 |
Ender2070 | ill be back later | Dec 15 15:27 |
cubezzz | MAD magazine? :) | Dec 15 15:27 |
Ender2070 | i know :) | Dec 15 15:28 |
cubezzz | that's all they do | Dec 15 15:28 |
Ender2070 | just an example | Dec 15 15:28 |
Ender2070 | what if I borrowed someones quote and I stuck up for my fair use on it | Dec 15 15:28 |
Ender2070 | or anything where I try to do something under fair use | Dec 15 15:28 |
cubezzz | news reporting? :) | Dec 15 15:29 |
Ender2070 | if im wrong, and they can prove I profitted, bam im dead | Dec 15 15:29 |
Ender2070 | thats what im saying | Dec 15 15:29 |
Ender2070 | also with advertising im subject to rules | Dec 15 15:29 |
Ender2070 | i can think of many reasons not to run ads | Dec 15 15:30 |
Ender2070 | konquerer, usually waits for all images to load before showing anything and ads sometimes resolve slowly for example | Dec 15 15:30 |
Ender2070 | and I dont ever want random pro microsoft ads | Dec 15 15:30 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Lifestreaming Becomes #FreeSoftware http://mashable.com/2009/12/13/storytlr-open-source/ | Dec 15 15:31 | |
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Ender2070 | or novell ads that might come up because google assosiates them with linux | Dec 15 15:31 |
Ender2070 | I dont want to subject my user base to subliminals either | Dec 15 15:31 |
Ender2070 | ads are full of them | Dec 15 15:31 |
Ender2070 | but i gtg, ill talk later | Dec 15 15:31 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Resource for Free Alternatives to Proprietary Software, New #FOSS Currency http://ur1.ca/hwn7 http://ur1.ca/hwn8 | Dec 15 15:36 | |
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cubezzz | but if Microsoft ran ads on boycottnovell... that would be funny :) | Dec 15 15:36 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FSF / #GNU Has New Credit Card Designs http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/new-credit-card-images | Dec 15 15:48 | |
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cubezzz | wow, is that new? | Dec 15 15:49 |
cubezzz | GNU credit cards? | Dec 15 15:49 |
cubezzz | US only though, hmmm | Dec 15 15:50 |
Diablo-D3 | whos issuing it | Dec 15 15:54 |
Diablo-D3 | ahh, hmm, umb | Dec 15 15:54 |
cubezzz | Visa | Dec 15 15:55 |
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schestowitz | What a mess | Dec 15 16:07 |
schestowitz | ..freenode.. | Dec 15 16:07 |
schestowitz | I was about to say, "And there is no room for honesty in some advertising" | Dec 15 16:07 |
cubezzz | I think I saw that :) | Dec 15 16:08 |
schestowitz | <cubezzz> news reporting? :) | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:29] <Ender2070> if im wrong, and they can prove I profitted, bam im dead | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:29] <Ender2070> thats what im saying | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:29] <Ender2070> also with advertising im subject to rules | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:30] <Ender2070> i can think of many reasons not to run ads | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:30] <schestowitz> Few ads can be ethical | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:31] <schestowitz> But then they are not ads | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:31] <schestowitz> They are informative | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:31] <cubezzz> again, people want to know what's out there | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:31] <schestowitz> Ads by definition almost are about disinforming | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:31] <schestowitz> In most practical cases | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:31] <cubezzz> just like I want an ARM based laptop | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:31] <cubezzz> how can I find one if no one advertises? | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:31] <schestowitz> It's dangerous to have marketing people run things | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <schestowitz> Like Linux projects | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <schestowitz> They think differently | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <schestowitz> Like advertisers | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <MinceR> they are advertisers | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <schestowitz> Scientists think differently | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <cubezzz> ok, what about donate buttons? How do you feel about those? | Dec 15 16:10 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <schestowitz> You just need to enter their classes to see | Dec 15 16:11 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <schestowitz> Same with MBAs | Dec 15 16:11 |
schestowitz | [15:32] <schestowitz> Who are treated to mistreat people | Dec 15 16:11 |
MinceR | ads can be ethical -- all you need to do is have some advantages to your product and point them out | Dec 15 16:11 |
MinceR | (if it's otherwise not a ripoff) | Dec 15 16:11 |
cubezzz | brb, X is mucking up | Dec 15 16:12 |
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schestowitz | <cubezzz>but if Microsoft ran ads on boycottnovell... that would be funny :) | Dec 15 16:12 |
schestowitz | [15:33] <schestowitz> There is no room for compassion in management | Dec 15 16:12 |
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schestowitz | Dec 15 15:15:56 -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FSF / #GNU Has New Credit Card Designs http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/new-credit-card-images | Dec 15 16:13 |
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schestowitz | Dec 15 15:15:56 <phIRCe-local>Title: New images for FSF credit cards - Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 30.27 KB | Dec 15 16:13 |
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schestowitz | Dec 15 15:15:57 <cubezzz>wow, is that new? | Dec 15 16:13 |
schestowitz | Dec 15 15:15:58 <cubezzz>GNU credit cards? | Dec 15 16:13 |
schestowitz | Dec 15 15:15:58 <cubezzz>US only though, hmmm | Dec 15 16:13 |
schestowitz | Dec 15 15:18:47 <Diablo-D3>whos issuing it | Dec 15 16:14 |
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schestowitz | Grrrrrrrrr....... | Dec 15 16:29 |
schestowitz | [16:13] <schestowitz> Dec 15 15:19:00 <Diablo-D3>ahh, hmm, umb | Dec 15 16:29 |
schestowitz | [16:13] <schestowitz> Dec 15 15:20:12 <cubezzz>Visa | Dec 15 16:29 |
schestowitz | [16:13] <phIRCe-local> Title: New images for FSF credit cards - Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 30.27 KB | Dec 15 16:29 |
schestowitz | [16:15] <schestowitz> [16:06] [Notice] -BNi to #boycottnovell- [diablod3/@diablod3] Normally I'd say #policestate, but the homeowner used extremely excessive force for vengeance, 2.5 years isn't enough http://ur1.ca/hwqb | Dec 15 16:29 |
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schestowitz | [16:16] <schestowitz> There's frequent downtime... many netsplits too | Dec 15 16:29 |
schestowitz | [16:16] <schestowitz> This morning there was this: | Dec 15 16:29 |
schestowitz | [16:16] <schestowitz> Dec 15 02:30:41 <dyfet>I just read what I think will be the headline story tomorrow.... | Dec 15 16:29 |
schestowitz | [16:16] <schestowitz> Dec 15 02:30:47 <dyfet>http://blog.plurk.com/2009/12/14/microsoft-rips-plurk/ | Dec 15 16:29 |
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Diablo-D3 | I suspect schestowitz's client has gone insane | Dec 15 16:30 |
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schestowitz | Diablo-D3: no, I post what was split out | Dec 15 16:31 |
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schestowitz | Depending on whose side of the split, but sitll.. | Dec 15 16:31 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Attempt by @lorddrayson to get scientists and gov't talking again http://is.gd/5oFxH | Dec 15 16:32 | |
Ender2070 | Apparently chully posted one day before me | Dec 15 16:32 |
schestowitz | Sam? | Dec 15 16:32 |
Ender2070 | thom | Dec 15 16:33 |
Ender2070 | osnews | Dec 15 16:33 |
Ender2070 | i forwarded his reply to you | Dec 15 16:34 |
Ender2070 | it was within hours actually | Dec 15 16:34 |
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Ender2070 | mail delivery error | Dec 15 16:46 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] great fail! http://failblog.org/2009/11/07/career-fair-fail/ | Dec 15 16:46 | |
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Ender2070 | oh wrong email, lol | Dec 15 16:51 |
Ender2070 | ill be back later | Dec 15 16:51 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] schneier on extortion in virtual games http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/11/virtual_mafia_i.html | Dec 15 16:51 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Walmart may be trying a drive through http://ur1.ca/hwqm #douchebags | Dec 15 17:11 | |
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trmanco | identi.ca is down :| | Dec 15 17:12 |
Diablo-D3 | no its not. | Dec 15 17:15 |
schestowitz | BN is on knees... server load | Dec 15 17:16 |
schestowitz | I think something hit it.... let's check | Dec 15 17:16 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Israeli airport guards terrorize those they are meant to protect from #terrorism http://ur1.ca/hww9 #douchebags | Dec 15 17:16 | |
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pentarex | hmm | Dec 15 17:30 |
pentarex | another day in paradise :D | Dec 15 17:30 |
schestowitz | Naaa... rather annoying | Dec 15 17:31 |
schestowitz | So many netsplits | Dec 15 17:32 |
schestowitz | [17:19] <schestowitz> Damn, I hate this................... can't figure out what causes load by tailing log | Dec 15 17:32 |
schestowitz | [17:20] <schestowitz> Is there a tool that does analyse Apache and detect what's being hit? | Dec 15 17:32 |
schestowitz | [17:21] [Notice] -BNi to #boycottnovell- [diablod3/@diablod3] goo.gl, eh? Kinda seems pointless, we already have several 5 letter long services. #Google, instead, should mirror these and offload traffic | Dec 15 17:32 |
schestowitz | [17:21] [Notice] -BNi to #boycottnovell- [diablod3/@diablod3] More #DMCA fun http://ur1.ca/hwx1 | Dec 15 17:32 |
schestowitz | [17:24] <-- amarsh04 has left this server (Remote closed the connection). | Dec 15 17:32 |
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schestowitz | [17:26] [Notice] -BNi to #boycottnovell- [diablod3/@diablod3] Australia will soon be disconnected from the Internet http://ur1.ca/hwx5 #douchebags | Dec 15 17:32 |
schestowitz | [17:26] [Notice] -BNi to #boycottnovell- [diablod3/@diablod3] #Policestate beats photographers, again http://ur1.ca/hwxd | Dec 15 17:32 |
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schestowitz | [17:26] [Notice] -BNi to #boycottnovell- [diablod3/@diablod3] #Obama and #WarrenBuffet are related http://ur1.ca/hwxi | Dec 15 17:32 |
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pentarex | a btw schestowitz congrats for all you do mate ;) - all the research and everything ;) | Dec 15 17:33 |
schestowitz | Thanks! | Dec 15 17:33 |
pentarex | keep up | Dec 15 17:33 |
schestowitz | I hope that all this material proves helpful to some people | Dec 15 17:33 |
schestowitz | It recently got me into a national TV documentary :-p | Dec 15 17:33 |
pentarex | really ? | Dec 15 17:34 |
pentarex | nicee | Dec 15 17:34 |
schestowitz | Yeah, but in Switzerland, not the UK | Dec 15 17:34 |
pentarex | still | Dec 15 17:34 |
pentarex | :) | Dec 15 17:34 |
pentarex | schestowitz - where this family name comes from | Dec 15 17:34 |
pentarex | if its not a secret | Dec 15 17:34 |
pentarex | of course dunno | Dec 15 17:34 |
schestowitz | I've been to Switzerland about 8 times, but never was there permanently | Dec 15 17:36 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] We're doomed, Yellowstone's supervolcano is even bigger than previously realized http://ur1.ca/hwyq #science | Dec 15 17:36 | |
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schestowitz | Someone offered to help with translation of some stuff | Dec 15 17:37 |
schestowitz | I know some guys does Spanish translations of it | Dec 15 17:37 |
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pentarex | schestowitz: what stuff ? I am Bulgarian - I can try | Dec 15 17:37 |
pentarex | on Bulgarian :D | Dec 15 17:37 |
pentarex | ok g2g | Dec 15 17:38 |
pentarex | bb | Dec 15 17:38 |
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cubezzz | used netwalker on ebay $429 | Dec 15 18:26 |
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cubezzz | touchbook on ebay $399 | Dec 15 18:30 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Companies That Signed Anti- #Linux Patent and #FUD Deals with #Microsoft Also Violate the #GPL http://ur1.ca/hx37 | Dec 15 18:36 | |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Just got mugged! I'm fine, yobs ran away, got my headphones (£15). Police helpful. Uninjured and OK, just very very pissed off. | Dec 15 18:58 | |
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schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> [18:26] <cubezzz> used netwalker on ebay $429 | Dec 15 19:10 |
schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> [18:30] <cubezzz> touchbook on ebay $399 | Dec 15 19:10 |
schestowitz | [18:51] <schestowitz> from Japan? | Dec 15 19:10 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Freedom is Not a Religion http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/15/disinformation-freedom-is-not-religion/ #fsf #gnu | Dec 15 19:23 | |
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cubezzz | really there is a multiplicity of Free movements | Dec 15 19:28 |
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cubezzz | there's GNU, Linux, BSD, X, and probably a ton of others | Dec 15 19:28 |
neighborlee | bsd being the most free | Dec 15 19:29 |
neighborlee | which is why im prob. switching to pcbsd after years of using linux | Dec 15 19:29 |
neighborlee | not to mention their use of PBI which is not unlike appdir in macosX | Dec 15 19:30 |
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cubezzz | I port code from all of those | Dec 15 19:38 |
neighborlee | to where | Dec 15 19:39 |
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cubezzz | zaurus | Dec 15 19:39 |
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trmanco | I can't load my identi.ca timeline :| | Dec 15 19:53 |
trmanco | but I can load replies :| | Dec 15 19:54 |
trmanco | strange | Dec 15 19:54 |
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cubezzz | some colour support in ps would be nice | Dec 15 20:03 |
cubezzz | time to look at procps again | Dec 15 20:06 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2009/12/15/inconvenient-truth-gore-claims-dont-add/ | Dec 15 20:12 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.pcworld.com/article/184678/microsoft_pulls_the_plug_for_now_on_plurk_clone.html | Dec 15 20:17 |
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DaemonFC | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10415780-56.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20 | Dec 15 20:18 |
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DaemonFC | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/12/aussie-content-filters-work-if-you-dont-count-im-p2p-ftp.ars | Dec 15 20:20 |
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DaemonFC | The People's Republic of Australia blocks some more of the internet with secret government filters | Dec 15 20:20 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: yeah more thievery from M$ , as if they were ever up to any good ( no good as harry would say heh) | Dec 15 20:22 |
DaemonFC | funny how our government is called fascist or whatever when they aren't censoring anything | Dec 15 20:23 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: maybe they are blocking terrorist attacks ;)) | Dec 15 20:23 |
DaemonFC | even if they themselves leaked it out | Dec 15 20:23 |
DaemonFC | the US government could block Wikileaks or other sites "they don't want you to see", but they never have | Dec 15 20:24 |
DaemonFC | why? | Dec 15 20:24 |
neighborlee | and give the public reason to not trust the government..you must be kidding ;) | Dec 15 20:25 |
neighborlee | they are far too clever for that | Dec 15 20:25 |
DaemonFC | in some ways, the US government is turning more against the citizens that live here, like the "Buy health insurance or else" bill | Dec 15 20:25 |
MinceR | lol @ referring to fox news | Dec 15 20:25 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: I take it your ok with thousands of people dieing every year, cause they have no health care ? | Dec 15 20:26 |
DaemonFC | amnesty for locusts | Dec 15 20:26 |
neighborlee | surely I misundestood you ;) | Dec 15 20:26 |
DaemonFC | neighborlee: There's no health reform bill in the Senate | Dec 15 20:26 |
DaemonFC | it's a buy expensive health insurance or pay more tax as punishment | Dec 15 20:26 |
neighborlee | there is, but you might not like it | Dec 15 20:26 |
DaemonFC | iit's a bad bill that needs scrapped at this point | Dec 15 20:26 |
DaemonFC | we're better off with nothing | Dec 15 20:26 |
DaemonFC | it's nothing but taking money from me and giving it out to health insurance companies | Dec 15 20:27 |
neighborlee | well atm one senator is blocking reform, and he' s from CT :) | Dec 15 20:27 |
DaemonFC | it's like holding a gun to your head and making you buy bad health insurance at unreasonable prices | Dec 15 20:27 |
DaemonFC | neighborlee: He's blocking it cause of the Medicare buy in crap | Dec 15 20:28 |
DaemonFC | which also needs to go | Dec 15 20:28 |
neighborlee | bullshit | Dec 15 20:28 |
DaemonFC | we don't need to put more people on the sinking ship | Dec 15 20:28 |
DaemonFC | Medicare is like the Titanic | Dec 15 20:28 |
DaemonFC | we need to expand it to everyone or not at all | Dec 15 20:28 |
DaemonFC | and find a way to pay for it | Dec 15 20:28 |
neighborlee | so you think millllions of people on medicare,,all of a sudden are going tob e kicked out of nursing homes ? | Dec 15 20:29 |
neighborlee | thats lunacy | Dec 15 20:29 |
DaemonFC | this buy in crap just keeps the broken Medicare system and puts 3-4 million more people on it aged 55-64 to shut them up | Dec 15 20:29 |
DaemonFC | it's a bad thing, it can't be allowed | Dec 15 20:29 |
neighborlee | you have a better idea ? | Dec 15 20:29 |
DaemonFC | yeah, the public option plan in the house bill is much better than the Medicare Bribe-In | Dec 15 20:29 |
DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 20:29 |
cubezzz | can't we just complain about computer stuff? :) | Dec 15 20:30 |
neighborlee | joe wont vote for any of it! | Dec 15 20:30 |
neighborlee | cubezzz: no | Dec 15 20:30 |
neighborlee | lol | Dec 15 20:30 |
cubezzz | at least that I can fix | Dec 15 20:30 |
neighborlee | LOL | Dec 15 20:30 |
DaemonFC | the Medicare Bribe is jsut that, a bribe meant to shut old people up | Dec 15 20:30 |
DaemonFC | while everyone under 55 is on their own | Dec 15 20:30 |
neighborlee | WSRONG | Dec 15 20:30 |
neighborlee | wrong | Dec 15 20:30 |
neighborlee | a single payer system is what we need FOR everyone | Dec 15 20:30 |
neighborlee | medicare for all | Dec 15 20:30 |
DaemonFC | yep, left to buy corporate insurance or pay more taxes as fine | Dec 15 20:30 |
DaemonFC | while the 55-64 year olds get the Bribe-In | Dec 15 20:31 |
neighborlee | teh current system is a joke | Dec 15 20:31 |
DaemonFC | it is a bullshit plan and people should be mad as hell if it passes | Dec 15 20:31 |
neighborlee | they put in medicare something joeliberman 'used to support;, then when it went into the bill,,he voted against it | Dec 15 20:31 |
neighborlee | what a chump | Dec 15 20:31 |
neighborlee | and we wonder why people dont like washington ;) | Dec 15 20:31 |
neighborlee | 'we're here to work for you'...more like be SHILLS for health care companies! | Dec 15 20:32 |
DaemonFC | neighborlee: I don't want to be told "Buy a health insurance plan on the open market with $60 a week or more in premiums that doesn't cover anything substantial, or pay 3% higher taxes" | Dec 15 20:32 |
DaemonFC | do you? | Dec 15 20:32 |
neighborlee | thats why we need a public OPTIN | Dec 15 20:32 |
neighborlee | ON | Dec 15 20:32 |
DaemonFC | oh, and it'll have massive copays | Dec 15 20:32 |
DaemonFC | and massive deductibles | Dec 15 20:32 |
DaemonFC | just like today | Dec 15 20:32 |
neighborlee | to keep prices down, and give COMPETITION | Dec 15 20:32 |
neighborlee | otherwize yes, you will | Dec 15 20:32 |
neighborlee | thats why fedex and the post office exist | Dec 15 20:33 |
neighborlee | COMPETITION | Dec 15 20:33 |
DaemonFC | that's what I've been saying, the Senate Bill has no public option, just the Bribe In | Dec 15 20:33 |
DaemonFC | which is worse than passing nothing | Dec 15 20:33 |
cubezzz | you could use the money you spent on Afghanistan... | Dec 15 20:33 |
cubezzz | ;-) | Dec 15 20:33 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: but thats why, haven't you been paying attention?? | Dec 15 20:33 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: joe l iberman WONT VOTE for a public option | Dec 15 20:33 |
neighborlee | AND he wont vote for a medicare 'bribe' as you call it ;) | Dec 15 20:34 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] thank you all for your kind words. i am not injured, just v pissed off. HULK WRITE STERN LETTER! | Dec 15 20:34 | |
DaemonFC | if there's not public option, there's no competition for the for-profit insurance cartel, and there's still the high taxes as a fine punishment for not buying it from them | Dec 15 20:34 |
DaemonFC | see, the whole bill breaks down without the public plan | Dec 15 20:34 |
neighborlee | so what IS he for..Ill tellyou what he's for..joe liberman is for all the lobby money has h as received from health care companies, as if its not already obvious;:)) | Dec 15 20:34 |
cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_health_care | Dec 15 20:34 |
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DaemonFC | the Senate bill as it stands is 100% of what the health insurance and drug companies want | Dec 15 20:35 |
neighborlee | so if you want health care reform,,call joe libermans office and bitch | Dec 15 20:35 |
DaemonFC | a gun to your head from the government that forces you to hand over your money to the companies | Dec 15 20:35 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: yes I know..thehouse bill is what we need,,I think..the one nancy put out | Dec 15 20:35 |
neighborlee | whatever her name is lol | Dec 15 20:35 |
DaemonFC | They want the bribe-in too, cause they don't want to cover 55+ year olds anyway | Dec 15 20:35 |
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DaemonFC | too much liability in exchange for the profit | Dec 15 20:36 |
DaemonFC | better that the governmenr, aka the tax payers, take on more burden to cover them | Dec 15 20:36 |
DaemonFC | *government | Dec 15 20:36 |
DaemonFC | the law would not let them charge more for old people jsut cause they have a lot of health problems | Dec 15 20:37 |
neighborlee | not the current law anyway,,the one in the new health care law anyway | Dec 15 20:37 |
neighborlee | or preexisting conditions, or being dropped , or caps | Dec 15 20:37 |
DaemonFC | you start getting real likely to have every kind of health problem in your 50s, so if the government Medicare system jsut takes them all, it means less payouts from health insurance companies that would be forced to carry them otherwise | Dec 15 20:37 |
neighborlee | well alot of that will go away..once people stop smoking and stop eating so damn much | Dec 15 20:38 |
DaemonFC | they won't | Dec 15 20:38 |
cubezzz | mostly people have stopped smoking | Dec 15 20:38 |
neighborlee | when people are at their ideal weight, their body is able to fight off disease much much easier | Dec 15 20:38 |
cubezzz | I almost never see it | Dec 15 20:39 |
DaemonFC | nothing has every stopped anyone from smoking or drinking or overeating before | Dec 15 20:39 |
neighborlee | cubezzz: its b ecoming much less yes | Dec 15 20:39 |
DaemonFC | cigarettes are like $5 a pack now and people just defraud welfare or go without food or whatever they have to do to buy them | Dec 15 20:39 |
cubezzz | I never smoked, and I stopped the fast food 7 years ago | Dec 15 20:39 |
neighborlee | It will if employers pay them for being at their ideal weight as inncentive ;) | Dec 15 20:39 |
DaemonFC | lots of people jsut sell their food stamps, illegally, to buy cigarettes | Dec 15 20:39 |
cubezzz | are food stamps transferrable? | Dec 15 20:40 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz: Not officially | Dec 15 20:40 |
DaemonFC | unofficially, yes | Dec 15 20:40 |
neighborlee | cubezzz: in addition to a solid workout regime too , yes | Dec 15 20:40 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz: Say I have $200 on a food stamp card, I walk up to you and offer to buy you $200 in groceries for $100 in cash | Dec 15 20:40 |
neighborlee | regimen LOL | Dec 15 20:40 |
DaemonFC | then I buy 4-5 cartons of cigarettes | Dec 15 20:41 |
DaemonFC | see how it works now? | Dec 15 20:41 |
cubezzz | just get a scale with AI and WIFI that communicates with McDonald's and say "Do not serve this person" | Dec 15 20:41 |
cubezzz | DaemonFC, yes | Dec 15 20:41 |
DaemonFC | if a person on food stamps sells all their food stamps for a month and some of their kids too, they'll get all th cigarettes they can smoke | Dec 15 20:41 |
DaemonFC | I've seen it happen a lot | Dec 15 20:41 |
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cubezzz | that sounds terrible | Dec 15 20:42 |
DaemonFC | it used to happen more when they were actual stamps and you could get cash money in change up to a certain amount | Dec 15 20:42 |
DaemonFC | people would go in with a $5 stamp, but a 40 cent bag (at the time) of skittles | Dec 15 20:42 |
DaemonFC | get $4.60 in cash, and buy a pack of cigarettes | Dec 15 20:42 |
DaemonFC | *buy | Dec 15 20:43 |
DaemonFC | actually, at the time, cigarettes were only like $1.80 a pack | Dec 15 20:43 |
DaemonFC | for the brand name ones | Dec 15 20:43 |
cubezzz | I don't think we have food stamps here | Dec 15 20:43 |
DaemonFC | so 2-3 packs for $4.60 | Dec 15 20:43 |
DaemonFC | in 1993, a pack of Camels was like $1.80 | Dec 15 20:44 |
DaemonFC | now they're like $5.40 | Dec 15 20:44 |
DaemonFC | number of smokers hasn't decreased | Dec 15 20:44 |
DaemonFC | the government knows you'll smoke them no matter what they cost | Dec 15 20:44 |
trmanco | http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1476258&cid=30414542 | Dec 15 20:44 |
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cubezzz | yeah, since the 40's? Big time | Dec 15 20:44 |
DaemonFC | so it's just more taxes under the guise of stopping smoking | Dec 15 20:44 |
cubezzz | and 60's | Dec 15 20:44 |
DaemonFC | well, you know what I mean | Dec 15 20:44 |
DaemonFC | the decline in smoking hit the bottom around 1990 | Dec 15 20:45 |
DaemonFC | and even though a pack costs 350% more now, the same number of people smoke | Dec 15 20:45 |
cubezzz | we have pics of cancer of the tongue on our cigarette packets | Dec 15 20:45 |
cubezzz | if that doesn't stop people nothing will | Dec 15 20:45 |
DaemonFC | we have a black and white text warning that nobody will notice | Dec 15 20:45 |
DaemonFC | "Surgeon General's Warning: Smoking may cause pregnancy complication and low birth weight" | Dec 15 20:46 |
MinceR | http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/75m4h/new_economist_cover_pic/ | Dec 15 20:46 |
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DaemonFC | "Surgeon General's Warning: Quitting smoking now may reduce serious hazards to your health." | Dec 15 20:46 |
DaemonFC | the ban on TV and radio ads was done at the request of the cigarette companies | Dec 15 20:47 |
DaemonFC | cause they didn't want to have to spend the money to out-advertise one another | Dec 15 20:47 |
cubezzz | hmmm | Dec 15 20:47 |
DaemonFC | I'm just saying that short of banning them outright, you're not going to get the US population of smokers under 20% no matter what else you do | Dec 15 20:48 |
DaemonFC | if they really wanted people to stop they would ban them | Dec 15 20:48 |
cubezzz | prohibition didn't work | Dec 15 20:48 |
DaemonFC | the government likes the tax revenue | Dec 15 20:48 |
_goblin | a smoking topic again? | Dec 15 20:49 |
cubezzz | making something forbidden doesn't seem to discourage people | Dec 15 20:49 |
_goblin | do you guys wait until I turn up on the channel? ;) | Dec 15 20:49 |
DaemonFC | drug companies also sell expensive stop smoking pills that don't work | Dec 15 20:49 |
DaemonFC | so they'll lobby to keep cigarettes legal too | Dec 15 20:49 |
DaemonFC | Psychiatrists twist your arm to go on Chantix | Dec 15 20:50 |
DaemonFC | then when you do and it doesn't work, they leave you on it for about 6 months anyway | Dec 15 20:51 |
DaemonFC | I've never seen Chantix cause a single person to stop smoking, despite the fact that someone makes billions of dollars a year off of it | Dec 15 20:52 |
MinceR | http://failblog.org/2009/12/14/eco-board-game-trivia-fail/ | Dec 15 20:52 |
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cubezzz | haha, well I have strong willpower | Dec 15 20:52 |
cubezzz | not a single puff of cigarette or sip of alcohol me | Dec 15 20:53 |
DaemonFC | I smoked off and on for a few years | Dec 15 20:53 |
DaemonFC | haven't had one in over a year now | Dec 15 20:54 |
cubezzz | that's good | Dec 15 20:54 |
DaemonFC | I really took it up as kind of a self defense I think, cause of all the bars I was in and the people around me, my ex smoked | Dec 15 20:54 |
DaemonFC | once I got away from all that, I stopped | Dec 15 20:55 |
DaemonFC | when I quit, I started coughing up things of all different colors | Dec 15 20:57 |
DaemonFC | it was pretty damned gross | Dec 15 20:58 |
DaemonFC | I'd hate to see quitting after 30 years and what would happen | Dec 15 20:58 |
DaemonFC | http://www.tgdaily.com/sustainability-features/45069-al-gore-shoots-self-climate-summit-in-foot | Dec 15 21:00 |
cubezzz | well, you would probably just croak | Dec 15 21:00 |
neighborlee | thats nonsense | Dec 15 21:00 |
cubezzz | e.g. DIck York, Elizabeth Montgomery | Dec 15 21:01 |
cubezzz | both died in their early 60's | Dec 15 21:01 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: just look at the wording this supposed 'journliast' is using..they are adhominem like attacks | Dec 15 21:01 |
neighborlee | wortheless,I wont even bother reading it. | Dec 15 21:01 |
DaemonFC | no snow on Christmas | Dec 15 21:03 |
DaemonFC | better call All Gore | Dec 15 21:03 |
DaemonFC | :P | Dec 15 21:03 |
DaemonFC | it rained yesterday | Dec 15 21:03 |
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DaemonFC | that's unusual for this point in December | Dec 15 21:04 |
cubezzz | -0.4 C here | Dec 15 21:05 |
neighborlee | very | Dec 15 21:05 |
cubezzz | snow | Dec 15 21:05 |
DaemonFC | I want to see Jesse Ventura's "Is Global Warming a Hoax?" | Dec 15 21:07 |
DaemonFC | you definitely have motivation to fabricate it | Dec 15 21:08 |
cubezzz | no, I think things are warming up | Dec 15 21:08 |
DaemonFC | governments wanting more control over who can have electricity, natural gas, and gasoline for example | Dec 15 21:08 |
cubezzz | plus the atmosphere is getting more polluted in general | Dec 15 21:08 |
DaemonFC | how much of a tax they can charge on heating energy for poor people | Dec 15 21:08 |
DaemonFC | so if things are heating up, we won't need heating oil anyway | Dec 15 21:09 |
DaemonFC | so it all balances out? :) | Dec 15 21:09 |
MinceR | yes, and once we all die, we won't need heating, cooling, food or water | Dec 15 21:10 |
DaemonFC | good thing, cause if the government imposes cap and trade, nobody will afford any of that anyway | Dec 15 21:10 |
DaemonFC | except the super rich | Dec 15 21:10 |
cubezzz | the super rich still need workers | Dec 15 21:11 |
DaemonFC | not as many as they have | Dec 15 21:11 |
DaemonFC | or else there wouldn't be high unemployment | Dec 15 21:11 |
DaemonFC | charging too much for heating oil and food just lets some of the plebians starve and freeze to death | Dec 15 21:12 |
DaemonFC | so there's more to go around for the rich and those lucky enough to still be needed by them | Dec 15 21:12 |
cubezzz | actually we are having a price war at the grocery stores in Ontario at the moment | Dec 15 21:12 |
cubezzz | that means lower food prices | Dec 15 21:12 |
cubezzz | in a slow economy that should keep prices in check | Dec 15 21:13 |
DaemonFC | tripling the price to heat your home and feed your children and yourself will kill off all the poor people they want gone | Dec 15 21:14 |
DaemonFC | the best way to do that is by telling people you need cap and trade | Dec 15 21:14 |
DaemonFC | you do that by making up global warming | Dec 15 21:14 |
DaemonFC | make sure cap and trade is signed into law and only goes into effect when you want people to know how much it really costs and why you did it | Dec 15 21:15 |
DaemonFC | so that's what these international treaties are all about | Dec 15 21:15 |
DaemonFC | Kyoto was a test run, and the next one will be the kill the poor treaty | Dec 15 21:15 |
DaemonFC | every government on Earth puts it into action at the same time and lets the undesirables in their social caste system die off at once | Dec 15 21:16 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Does anyone even care about the Comcast on demand streaming stuff anymore? Half the videos are streaming through Hulu http://ur1.ca/hxfi | Dec 15 21:16 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] The #BusyBox plot thickens http://ur1.ca/hxfr | Dec 15 21:16 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Democrats trying to legalize illegals while taxing them greatly... this could work to get rid of them http://ur1.ca/hxgn | Dec 15 21:21 | |
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cubezzz | I know a bit about Eric Anderson | Dec 15 21:37 |
cubezzz | Lineo guy | Dec 15 21:37 |
cubezzz | Zaurus uses that version of busybox | Dec 15 21:37 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC faux....... | Dec 15 21:54 |
schestowitz | *sigh* | Dec 15 21:54 |
schestowitz | Denial and all | Dec 15 21:54 |
schestowitz | I've just learned some interesting things... turns out that the automatd response system in Russia almost fired nukes in 1995 due to false alarm in Norway.... that's the second time already | Dec 15 21:55 |
schestowitz | Planes with "Sepcial weapons" (probably nuclear warheads) are being given as "gifts". Insane. | Dec 15 21:56 |
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schestowitz | Bunch of crazy people run things... putting populations at huge risk... and there's the bully mentality that's seen as necessary... like the mafia, wherein you show you're irrational and out of control to scare any potential dissent... | Dec 15 21:57 |
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schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/dec/14/rage-against-machines-robots | Dec 15 22:03 |
schestowitz | Hey, we're lacking people here. Why don't we build robots, _too_? :-) | Dec 15 22:04 |
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schestowitz | trmanco: re identica, it seems laggy for days now | Dec 15 22:08 |
trmanco | it's working again | Dec 15 22:08 |
schestowitz | Sometimes it would take an hour for things to show up and be passed. It's as though they have workloads issue | Dec 15 22:08 |
schestowitz | Digg-like caveats | Dec 15 22:08 |
schestowitz | BN has issues in pages with many comments... can take over a minute to load, no simple workaround | Dec 15 22:09 |
schestowitz | Bad code design, heavy DB queries | Dec 15 22:09 |
schestowitz | Some months ago identica was acting up and kept changing my language to Bugarian | Dec 15 22:09 |
schestowitz | "If you want to accomplish something in the world, idealism is not enough--you need to choose a method that works to achieve the goal. In other words, you need to be "pragmatic."" Richard Stallman | Dec 15 22:11 |
schestowitz | Interesting quote, sort of contradicting himself | Dec 15 22:11 |
schestowitz | http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/google-a-bigger-monopolistic-threat-than-microsoft/?cs=38137 | Dec 15 22:14 |
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schestowitz | Here comes the talking point | Dec 15 22:14 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Those who are not familar with some class 'politics' may never truly appreciate freedom, let alone understand it | Dec 15 22:16 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1566251/-button-mouse-black | Dec 15 22:19 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This is interesting practical use of microblogs: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8413128.stm | Dec 15 22:21 | |
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trmanco | google could by mysql from oracle | Dec 15 22:23 |
trmanco | they use it too... a lot, right? | Dec 15 22:23 |
schestowitz | They could. | Dec 15 22:25 |
schestowitz | It would put them vs MS on another front | Dec 15 22:25 |
schestowitz | But they use a lot of sqlite too | Dec 15 22:26 |
schestowitz | Different scale, different needs/markets | Dec 15 22:26 |
schestowitz | Same with Oracle.... VAST DB | Dec 15 22:26 |
schestowitz | Firefox/Moz uses a lot of sqlite | Dec 15 22:26 |
schestowitz | The compact version puts all the code in a single file | Dec 15 22:27 |
schestowitz | It's vastly popular in devices too | Dec 15 22:27 |
schestowitz | http://twit.tv/floss26 | Dec 15 22:27 |
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MinceR | i wish ff didn't completely lock all its sqlite dbs constantly though | Dec 15 22:27 |
schestowitz | Better than Mork | Dec 15 22:28 |
schestowitz | It has many issues | Dec 15 22:28 |
schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mork_%28file_format%29 | Dec 15 22:28 |
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MinceR | where's Mindy? | Dec 15 22:28 |
schestowitz | In WIkipedia | Dec 15 22:29 |
schestowitz | I searched for Mork | Dec 15 22:29 |
schestowitz | Result #1 was Mork and Mandy Mandelson :-) | Dec 15 22:29 |
schestowitz | http://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2009/dec/14/busybox-gpl-lawsuit/ | Dec 15 22:29 |
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schestowitz | Best Buy eats dirt... so good! | Dec 15 22:30 |
schestowitz | Best ripoff... why buy code? Just nick it. | Dec 15 22:30 |
schestowitz | http://nocleanfeed.com/ | Dec 15 22:31 |
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schestowitz | Bastards. Indeed, "Republic of Australia"... bad precedence to be setting | Dec 15 22:31 |
schestowitz | They'll be giving Mandy Mandelson for the next 'digital' bill | Dec 15 22:32 |
schestowitz | Tesco apologises over 'ginger jibe' Christmas card http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/8411894.stm | Dec 15 22:32 |
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schestowitz | http://www.gadling.com/2009/12/01/flight-attendant-photographs-obese-passenger-safety-hazard/ | Dec 15 22:36 |
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schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6108414.stm | Dec 15 22:37 |
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schestowitz | "There will be virtually nothing left to fish from the seas by the middle of the century if current trends continue, according to a major scientific study." | Dec 15 22:37 |
schestowitz | When some of us are older fish might no longer be on any menu then... | Dec 15 22:38 |
schestowitz | Just chicken 'factories' | Dec 15 22:38 |
schestowitz | Beef MinceRs with some stuff to go 'through' them | Dec 15 22:38 |
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schestowitz | Wow, Novell is collapsing today | Dec 15 22:41 |
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schestowitz | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/12/15/sun_ditches_try_and_buy_program/ | Dec 15 22:45 |
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schestowitz | Biden is a shill, just like cNET warned ages before the elections. http://techdirt.com/articles/20091215/0200387354.shtml | Dec 15 23:03 |
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_goblin | schestowitz: Roy have you got links to the other examples of MS stealing code this year? | Dec 15 23:06 |
_goblin | schestowitz: If so, would you mind listing them here. | Dec 15 23:06 |
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DaemonFC | Indianapolis Police are on COPS B-) | Dec 15 23:27 |
DaemonFC | what does ender2070 say about COPS? | Dec 15 23:29 |
DaemonFC | liberals have funny opinions | Dec 15 23:29 |
schestowitz | _goblin: you deceived me on it. It was not a GPL violation, just a case of copyright infringement :-) | Dec 15 23:31 |
_goblin | schestowitz: ? | Dec 15 23:34 |
_goblin | schestowitz: Im not talking about decembers... | Dec 15 23:34 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, and the Speedway Police | Dec 15 23:35 |
DaemonFC | *suburb of Indy | Dec 15 23:35 |
schestowitz | _goblin: in your blog post... | Dec 15 23:36 |
_goblin | schestowitz: yes? | Dec 15 23:36 |
schestowitz | I took something literally without second-checking | Dec 15 23:36 |
schestowitz | I correct my post later | Dec 15 23:36 |
DaemonFC | I love this show | Dec 15 23:36 |
_goblin | which part? | Dec 15 23:36 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: the cops always win | Dec 15 23:36 |
schestowitz | Police Chases and alll | Dec 15 23:36 |
schestowitz | "Good cops, good cops...." | Dec 15 23:37 |
DaemonFC | yeah, you can outrun a police cruiser, not their radio | Dec 15 23:37 |
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DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 23:37 |
schestowitz | The guy who flees in a car always gets caught | Dec 15 23:37 |
_goblin | I thought it was clear when I said "This is the second code issue in as many months with Microsoft being alleged to have infringed on the GPL with code in their software." | Dec 15 23:37 |
schestowitz | Moral of the story: give up, bad guys always lose | Dec 15 23:37 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: don't watch it | Dec 15 23:37 |
schestowitz | It's indocrination | Dec 15 23:37 |
_goblin | "second code issue"......"with Microsoft alleged to have infringed on the GPL".... | Dec 15 23:37 |
schestowitz | You linked to Fox earlier | Dec 15 23:37 |
schestowitz | We need to block those links ;-) | Dec 15 23:37 |
schestowitz | Fixed News | Dec 15 23:38 |
DaemonFC | how is it indoctrination when you have wife beaters, drug dealers, car thieves.... | Dec 15 23:38 |
DaemonFC | etc | Dec 15 23:38 |
_goblin | schestowitz: Which part "I took something literally without second-checking"....what are you refering to? | Dec 15 23:38 |
schestowitz | _goblin: he made the code visible too | Dec 15 23:39 |
schestowitz | JavaScript | Dec 15 23:39 |
DaemonFC | the police usually do get those criminals, schestowitz | Dec 15 23:39 |
DaemonFC | know why? They tend to be stupid | Dec 15 23:39 |
schestowitz | So I assumed it was like the Vista 7 tool | Dec 15 23:39 |
schestowitz | Some JS code is GPLed | Dec 15 23:39 |
DaemonFC | dumb as a box of rocks, smoking too much of what they're selling | Dec 15 23:39 |
DaemonFC | :) | Dec 15 23:39 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: usually is not a statics | Dec 15 23:39 |
schestowitz | Give numbers | Dec 15 23:39 |
schestowitz | *statistic | Dec 15 23:40 |
_goblin | schestowitz: ? ah...I did though make it clear that this was "theft" and not a GPL violation......it was in both the title and the text... | Dec 15 23:40 |
schestowitz | Those shows never show criminals escaping | Dec 15 23:40 |
schestowitz | Or... | Dec 15 23:40 |
schestowitz | They say, "he was later caught" | Dec 15 23:40 |
DaemonFC | seems like they bag all my former stepdad's family members every time, schestowitz | Dec 15 23:40 |
DaemonFC | lol | Dec 15 23:40 |
DaemonFC | rightfully so | Dec 15 23:40 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: they can escape | Dec 15 23:40 |
schestowitz | Traffic thing.. | Dec 15 23:41 |
DaemonFC | for a while | Dec 15 23:41 |
schestowitz | Then they flee the stolen car | Dec 15 23:41 |
schestowitz | And even with CCTV you cannot identify them | Dec 15 23:41 |
schestowitz | CCTV density is low in the US | Dec 15 23:41 |
DaemonFC | the police figure out who did it and get an arrest warrant | Dec 15 23:41 |
DaemonFC | try to go about your daily business like that | Dec 15 23:41 |
schestowitz | How do they "Figure out"? | Dec 15 23:41 |
DaemonFC | even if you create an assumed identity, you're on borrowed time | Dec 15 23:42 |
schestowitz | Don't forget... | Dec 15 23:42 |
schestowitz | Police are stupid too | Dec 15 23:42 |
schestowitz | Not just criminals | Dec 15 23:42 |
DaemonFC | my former stepdad's son did that | Dec 15 23:42 |
DaemonFC | fled to Alabama | Dec 15 23:42 |
DaemonFC | trying to escape 1 month in jail here | Dec 15 23:42 |
schestowitz | Not the same | Dec 15 23:42 |
DaemonFC | lived under a false name and worked down there without paying tax for seven years | Dec 15 23:42 |
schestowitz | I'm talking about police chases | Dec 15 23:42 |
schestowitz | The cars are usually stolen | Dec 15 23:42 |
DaemonFC | the cops finally caught him | Dec 15 23:43 |
DaemonFC | now he's in trouble for a lot of stuff including tax evasion | Dec 15 23:43 |
schestowitz | In a trailer park? | Dec 15 23:43 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Management Exodus at #Novell http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/15/levy-and-jaffe-jump-ship/ | Dec 15 23:43 | |
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DaemonFC | nope | Dec 15 23:43 |
schestowitz | McDonalds? :-) | Dec 15 23:43 |
DaemonFC | they pulled his friend over and checked their ID | Dec 15 23:43 |
schestowitz | Oh, no... not mother's basement | Dec 15 23:43 |
DaemonFC | he was still carrying his expired Indiana driver's license | Dec 15 23:43 |
DaemonFC | they ran it and it pulled up the arrest warrant | Dec 15 23:44 |
schestowitz | Not the same situation | Dec 15 23:45 |
DaemonFC | so after he spent years in an Alabama prison for the drug charges from that pullover, he got extradited to Indiana | Dec 15 23:45 |
schestowitz | Not a car chase | Dec 15 23:45 |
DaemonFC | and served another 4 years here | Dec 15 23:45 |
schestowitz | Welfare in prison | Dec 15 23:45 |
schestowitz | No pyramid building | Dec 15 23:45 |
DaemonFC | he's back in prison on a 15 year sentence for producing meth | Dec 15 23:45 |
schestowitz | Oh, it's that dude... | Dec 15 23:46 |
DaemonFC | it's why I call it the revolving door justice system | Dec 15 23:46 |
schestowitz | You know some crazy folks... | Dec 15 23:46 |
DaemonFC | it lets them out so they can reoffend and end up back in | Dec 15 23:46 |
DaemonFC | nah, I think I mentioned his daughter's husband | Dec 15 23:46 |
DaemonFC | the one who bailed out of his car cause the meth lab ingredients exploded | Dec 15 23:47 |
schestowitz | Anyway, change subject please | Dec 15 23:47 |
DaemonFC | when he lit his cigarette | Dec 15 23:47 |
DaemonFC | two different people, about equal intelligence | Dec 15 23:47 |
DaemonFC | it's genetic | Dec 15 23:48 |
DaemonFC | the whole family is a bunch of criminals | Dec 15 23:48 |
schestowitz | http://www.thevarguy.com/2009/12/14/oracle-mysql-powerful-combo-on-the-way/ | Dec 15 23:48 |
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schestowitz | Not genetic | Dec 15 23:48 |
schestowitz | Set by example | Dec 15 23:48 |
DaemonFC | nope | Dec 15 23:48 |
DaemonFC | Trent never even lived with the scumbags but he turned out jsut like them | Dec 15 23:48 |
DaemonFC | rapist by age 13 | Dec 15 23:48 |
DaemonFC | some kind of genetic white trash thing | Dec 15 23:49 |
DaemonFC | inbreeding may have a part of that | Dec 15 23:49 |
_goblin | schestowitz: Ive just read your linked article..."deceived"....was a little strong was it not? My article did make it clear that yesterdays issue was that of an allegation of theft and previous code issues were one of a GPL violation. I beleive I did make myself clear...you even quoted my words..:) | Dec 15 23:49 |
schestowitz | YEah | Dec 15 23:50 |
schestowitz | I read it wrong | Dec 15 23:50 |
_goblin | ah | Dec 15 23:50 |
_goblin | I was surprised when you said 3rd time....thats why I couldnt find 3 allegations of theft of code by MS. | Dec 15 23:50 |
DaemonFC | career criminality seems to me to run in families | Dec 15 23:50 |
DaemonFC | I mean, anyone can become a criminal under the right circumstances | Dec 15 23:50 |
DaemonFC | the hardcore career ones are from criminal families | Dec 15 23:51 |
schestowitz | Maybe they spread the genes fast | Dec 15 23:51 |
schestowitz | By raping /sarcasm | Dec 15 23:51 |
schestowitz | Opposite Darwinism | Dec 15 23:51 |
schestowitz | Where natural selection is ruined -- not helped -- by human advancement | Dec 15 23:52 |
schestowitz | Examples: | Dec 15 23:52 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] More mugging damage than I thought: really bad case damage on laptop. Work will be *so* pleased. Crime number tomorrow I really hope! | Dec 15 23:52 | |
schestowitz | 1) poor populations make more children | Dec 15 23:52 |
DaemonFC | no, they hook up with women that get pregnant and use the kids for welfare fraud | Dec 15 23:52 |
DaemonFC | the taxpayers raise the next generation of hardcore crooks | Dec 15 23:52 |
schestowitz | 2) we help cure the ill and handicap, which in turn help them reproduce (I mean that politely), which sort of 'interferes' with the notion that fittest survives | Dec 15 23:53 |
DaemonFC | and provide incentives for the mom to make more of them | Dec 15 23:53 |
schestowitz | It all relates to biology | Dec 15 23:53 |
schestowitz | Not my ideas... | Dec 15 23:53 |
schestowitz | Nor is the idea that body is a device for DNA to spread itself | Dec 15 23:53 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: that's good, though | Dec 15 23:54 |
schestowitz | More Bush voters | Dec 15 23:54 |
schestowitz | Eventually they are led to believe that cannon fodder is good and sent back home in a bag | Dec 15 23:54 |
schestowitz | Sad... | Dec 15 23:54 |
DaemonFC | they don't vote | Dec 15 23:54 |
DaemonFC | we're pretty safe | Dec 15 23:54 |
schestowitz | The people in power do not ever want an informed population, but they don't need workers anymore... not in the home country | Dec 15 23:54 |
DaemonFC | either that or they're barred from voting due to felonies | Dec 15 23:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/uruguay/a_steep_cost_or_a_profitable_i.html | Dec 15 23:55 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: do you have felonies? | Dec 15 23:56 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Microsoft blames…….somone! – Only 1 day for this “blame” http://tinyurl.com/y9pjkx8 #microsoft #windows #xp #vista #windows7 #blame | Dec 15 23:56 | |
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DaemonFC | people that are too irresponsible to find legitimate means of supporting themselves are not likely to vote anyway | Dec 15 23:56 |
DaemonFC | whether or not they've had their voting privileges taken away | Dec 15 23:56 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: No felonies | Dec 15 23:56 |
schestowitz | You want to be a gangsta, dontcha? :-) | Dec 15 23:57 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: no worries, Diebold will vote for them | Dec 15 23:58 |
schestowitz | The Premium Predictive Vote algorithm :-) | Dec 15 23:58 |
DaemonFC | cause then I could get shot 9 times and start talking weird and put that on a CD | Dec 15 23:58 |
DaemonFC | and become a millionaire? | Dec 15 23:58 |
DaemonFC | from poor people buying my CDs? | Dec 15 23:58 |
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schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/SFLC-suit-against-Best-Buy-et-al/?kc=rss | Dec 15 23:59 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: worked for 50 Cent | Dec 15 23:59 |
schestowitz | The rescuer doctor later came after him for money... when he became a big star around 2001 | Dec 15 23:59 |
schestowitz | Or 2002 | Dec 15 23:59 |
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