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schestowitz | http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=ha_ha_i_didn_t_do_any_gimp_tutorials_thi&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 | Feb 10 00:13 |
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schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Debian-6-0-Squeeze-behind-schedule-925778.html | Feb 10 00:15 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, I made Ballmer my avatar | Feb 10 00:15 |
MinceR | ew | Feb 10 00:16 |
FurnaceBoy | :| | Feb 10 00:16 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: that's horrible | Feb 10 00:16 |
DaemonFC | http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/17/ballmervista.jpg | Feb 10 00:17 |
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FurnaceBoy | Aborting. | Feb 10 00:17 |
FurnaceBoy | oh if only. | Feb 10 00:17 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7210 The Windows 7 honeymoon is over | Feb 10 00:18 |
FurnaceBoy | w00t | Feb 10 00:19 |
MinceR | aborting? we're several decades late with that. | Feb 10 00:20 |
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DaemonFC | jono, was asking me earlier if I was using Ubuntu, like that would invalidate my argument about where they went wrong | Feb 10 00:22 |
DaemonFC | "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists." -jono | Feb 10 00:23 |
DaemonFC | :P | Feb 10 00:23 |
_goblin | he said that? | Feb 10 00:23 |
DaemonFC | no | Feb 10 00:23 |
schestowitz | MinceR: do you have time for a quick Hungarian translation? | Feb 10 00:23 |
DaemonFC | but it's what he was getting at | Feb 10 00:23 |
jono | DaemonFC, I was just curious as to whether you were an ubuntu user or not | Feb 10 00:23 |
DaemonFC | some circular self-masturbatory logic | Feb 10 00:23 |
MinceR | i do, if it's really quick | Feb 10 00:24 |
DaemonFC | jono, If Ubuntu needs money that badly, why can't you hold out a can and ask everyone to put $1 in? | Feb 10 00:24 |
DaemonFC | certainly if people pay $320 for Windows, they could toss in a few bucks for Ubuntu | Feb 10 00:24 |
_goblin | that was unexpected.... | Feb 10 00:25 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: strange world we live in | Feb 10 00:25 |
_goblin | Ive been contacted with alot of support re: Ubuntu... | Feb 10 00:25 |
DaemonFC | they could make more money asking people to chip in a few bucks than by backstabbing their users | Feb 10 00:26 |
DaemonFC | disgusting them into leaving by changing things like this one at a time | Feb 10 00:26 |
_goblin | seems like far from a global acceptance of Mono and trips to Yahoo...the reverse is happening.... | Feb 10 00:26 |
_goblin | I really thought Id be hit by Mono supporters. | Feb 10 00:27 |
DaemonFC | there's going to come a point where it's far too commercialized for anyone to even be in the mindset to help out | Feb 10 00:27 |
_goblin | I did.....all two of them. | Feb 10 00:27 |
DaemonFC | "There's Amazon MP3 ads in Rhythmbox, there's Yahoo search in Firefox" + god knows what else | Feb 10 00:27 |
_goblin | I think Canonical/Ubuntu have done great things...I have both time and respect for both.....I think Yahoo/Gimp and OO decisions are going to prove to be the biggest mistakes they make. | Feb 10 00:28 |
DaemonFC | and the whole system becomes a giant piece of adware that people are apathetic about and migrating away from | Feb 10 00:28 |
_goblin | My prediction......Fedora will pick up the baton, if my email is anything to go by. | Feb 10 00:29 |
DaemonFC | yes, Fedora is getting much easier to handle than it used to be | Feb 10 00:29 |
schestowitz | MinceR: just the wiki's opening part | Feb 10 00:29 |
DaemonFC | much less of an anything goes sandpit and much more of something a normal person will use | Feb 10 00:29 |
MinceR | schestowitz: not right now, but i think i'll do it | Feb 10 00:30 |
_goblin | I wish I didn't have work early....178 emails.....2 of which pro mono and 3 vulgar..... | Feb 10 00:30 |
DaemonFC | Red Hat doesn't have to exploit their Fedora users because they're already making a fortune on RHEL | Feb 10 00:30 |
DaemonFC | without worrying about Yahell click pennies | Feb 10 00:30 |
DaemonFC | I predict that by Fedora 13, ATI users really won't even need FGLRX anymore | Feb 10 00:31 |
DaemonFC | Ubuntu users will have to wait until fall or use a git PPA for x.org and MESA | Feb 10 00:31 |
DaemonFC | that's going to make Fedora look pretty damned tempting if it turns out to be so | Feb 10 00:32 |
DaemonFC | we'll see whose laughing when Nvidia users still get nvidia.ko and ATI users can use their card without a blob | Feb 10 00:33 |
DaemonFC | he who laughs last, laughs best and all that | Feb 10 00:33 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Back from work and an early start in the morning. | Feb 10 00:34 | |
DaemonFC | Hotel California :) | Feb 10 00:34 |
_goblin | Ive been impressed with the "out of the boxness" of Fedora...Im slowly switching my rigs over..... | Feb 10 00:35 |
_goblin | Im very tempted to have Elive on my main rig now. | Feb 10 00:35 |
_goblin | to replace Wolvix | Feb 10 00:35 |
DaemonFC | love this song :) | Feb 10 00:36 |
_goblin | I'll tell you what Ive noticed with Mono comments..... | Feb 10 00:37 |
DaemonFC | damn, it sounds spectacular on my new speakers :) | Feb 10 00:38 |
_goblin | many bloggers don't want to criticise Mono as they will be labeled "Anti-FOSS" or "Anti-Linux".....they don't want that type of remark being thrown at blogs they work hard on, so they remain silent....sort of a blackmail. | Feb 10 00:38 |
DaemonFC | I know who I'm getting my next set from | Feb 10 00:38 |
*DaemonFC rips the CD to FLAC :) | Feb 10 00:38 | |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: :( | Feb 10 00:39 |
_goblin | ? | Feb 10 00:39 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin | many bloggers don't want to criticise Mono as they will be labeled "Anti-FOSS" or "Anti-Linux" | Feb 10 00:39 |
FurnaceBoy | bizarro world. | Feb 10 00:39 |
_goblin | ah...yeah its sad.... | Feb 10 00:40 |
FurnaceBoy | when it is in fact Mono that is the pernicious attack | Feb 10 00:40 |
_goblin | sort of holding peoples opinions to ransom. | Feb 10 00:40 |
FurnaceBoy | what else did they ever do... | Feb 10 00:40 |
FurnaceBoy | if they won't take money, threaten them instead | Feb 10 00:40 |
_goblin | theres only two area's where attacked are so strong...... | Feb 10 00:40 |
_goblin | *attacks | Feb 10 00:40 |
DaemonFC | Tiger Direct had these speakers marked down to $50 | Feb 10 00:40 |
DaemonFC | they're still listed everywhere else at $130 *shrugs* | Feb 10 00:41 |
_goblin | complaining about Microsoft products or expressing opinion on Mono. | Feb 10 00:41 |
_goblin | If I said tomorrow on my blog, I think Brasero is hopeless, I doubt I would get the backlash as I would for saying the same about Mono | Feb 10 00:41 |
_goblin | that to me says alot. | Feb 10 00:42 |
_goblin | Im going to publish some of these emails (with the senders consent) as it suggests that far from one or two people being vocal about Mono, there is actually many. | Feb 10 00:43 |
DaemonFC | cd burning used to suck a lot worse on Linux than it does now | Feb 10 00:43 |
DaemonFC | K3B is up there with the best of them | Feb 10 00:43 |
_goblin | K3b is what I recommend....I used to rely on Brasero, but my experiences with it on 9.10 had me returning to K3b | Feb 10 00:44 |
DaemonFC | you can run K3B on GNOME easily | Feb 10 00:44 |
DaemonFC | I do in fact | Feb 10 00:44 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 10 00:44 |
_goblin | yeah so do I. | Feb 10 00:44 |
_goblin | on a few distros | Feb 10 00:44 |
DaemonFC | the only problem with Brasero is that it's simplistic | Feb 10 00:45 |
_goblin | Klibido is another one of my "killer apps" | Feb 10 00:45 |
DaemonFC | CD burning apps are a rare exception to "keep it simple" | Feb 10 00:45 |
_goblin | for trawling the a500 demoscene binaries. | Feb 10 00:45 |
DaemonFC | I want my CD burning app to do everything and make me breakfast | Feb 10 00:45 |
DaemonFC | don't worry about bloating it, you can't | Feb 10 00:46 |
_goblin | I don't have breakfast..... | Feb 10 00:46 |
_goblin | I only need .iso burning..... | Feb 10 00:46 |
DaemonFC | Nero on Windows doesn't count, it has tried to expand to be an everything suite that just happens to burn CDs poorly | Feb 10 00:46 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 10 00:46 |
_goblin | ah....CD's? | Feb 10 00:46 |
DaemonFC | blooooooooooooooooooooooat!!! | Feb 10 00:46 |
DaemonFC | well, ISOs and those fucking NRGs | Feb 10 00:47 |
DaemonFC | I hate those | Feb 10 00:47 |
_goblin | Even the warez scene rules seem to be switching from 2x699mb releases.......once the stalwart of the ScEnE | Feb 10 00:47 |
_goblin | or something.... | Feb 10 00:47 |
DaemonFC | wait ten minutes for nrg2iso to crank away at a DVD NRG image to turn it into a proper ISO | Feb 10 00:47 |
DaemonFC | Fire Coming Out Of The Monkey's Head! | Feb 10 00:48 |
DaemonFC | :D | Feb 10 00:48 |
DaemonFC | http://popup.lala.com/popup/576742283152627185 | Feb 10 00:49 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Lala Song Player - Fire Coming Out Of The Monkey's Head by Gorillaz .::. Size~: 23.04 KB | Feb 10 00:49 |
*DaemonFC loves Last.FM | Feb 10 00:50 | |
DaemonFC | Pandora sucks beyond belief | Feb 10 00:51 |
DaemonFC | Spotify found out I wasn't in the UK pretty fast | Feb 10 00:51 |
DaemonFC | need to make a new account on that every month | Feb 10 00:51 |
DaemonFC | too bad, cause Spotify free account gives you Vorbis at q5, best sounding streaming service out there | Feb 10 00:52 |
DaemonFC | what happens is I sign up from behind a proxy in the UK and give it some bogus zip code and then it finds out I'm in the US and assumes I'm "traveling" and gives me like a month before it freezes the account | Feb 10 00:54 |
DaemonFC | _goblin, It's mind blowing to me that one company can own the Imaginary Property rights to a song in the UK but can't stream it to the US because another company owns the Imaginary Property here | Feb 10 00:54 |
DaemonFC | the mafiaa is still trying to pretend that it's in charge of where music can play at | Feb 10 00:55 |
DaemonFC | and when | Feb 10 00:55 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, in other news.... | Feb 10 00:58 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Transmission finally supports magnet links | Feb 10 00:58 |
*DaemonFC jumps up and down in excitement | Feb 10 00:58 | |
DaemonFC | and DHT!!! | Feb 10 00:58 |
DaemonFC | ok, it's now my favorite torrent client in the world B-) | Feb 10 00:59 |
_goblin | DaemonFC: Whilst I respect the copyright laws of the land (and don't infringe them) it doesn't mean I agree with them....I just think the arguement some have of "well I don't agree so I'll do it anyway" is rather weak. | Feb 10 01:05 |
DaemonFC | to hell with them | Feb 10 01:06 |
_goblin | law (either civil or criminal) is not something we can "cherry pick" the bits we like.....I personally think speed camera's are unfair but I won't speed intentionally through them just to make the point. | Feb 10 01:06 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: right. only when you get as big as MS or as ugly as Gates can you break the law with impunity | Feb 10 01:07 |
_goblin | true... | Feb 10 01:07 |
_goblin | but its ok..... | Feb 10 01:07 |
_goblin | "they'll be better next time" | Feb 10 01:08 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: "largely accidental" monopoly | Feb 10 01:08 |
*FurnaceBoy giggles | Feb 10 01:08 | |
_goblin | as long as the customers keep parting with cash everythings ok. | Feb 10 01:08 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: and they do that less and less. it's going to be quite a show to watch the MS "Titanic" go down | Feb 10 01:08 |
FurnaceBoy | quite a show! | Feb 10 01:09 |
_goblin | but knowing MS the blame with be with everyone else and just like a real ship, others will be caught in the "drag" on its way down. | Feb 10 01:10 |
_goblin | in many ways, MS is comparable to a quantum singularity.....sucking up everything in its path whilst growing larger by the moment.....innovation (just like light) can't escape as its drawn into its dense center. | Feb 10 01:12 |
DaemonFC | _goblin, Spray some of that refracting shit on your license plate | Feb 10 01:12 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 10 01:12 |
DaemonFC | problem solved | Feb 10 01:12 |
_goblin | funnily enough....if there truely is a equal and opposite rule to everything..... | Feb 10 01:13 |
_goblin | (and DeamonFC you'll like this) | Feb 10 01:13 |
DaemonFC | _goblin, Some people roll over and some people fight back | Feb 10 01:13 |
DaemonFC | ;) | Feb 10 01:14 |
_goblin | then there must be a White hole which returns matter into the universe.....sort of like Linux....returning freedom and creativity to the universe. | Feb 10 01:14 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Feb 10 01:14 |
DaemonFC | I don't respect laws that were created to give rich companies undue advantage over me | Feb 10 01:14 |
DaemonFC | never will | Feb 10 01:14 |
_goblin | There you go.....how to incorporate black holes, Linux and red dwarf into the same sentence. | Feb 10 01:14 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: then you should be particularly pissed that corporations are the biggest law BREAKers | Feb 10 01:14 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, Slip enough money under the table and any law can be repealed, enacted, enforced, or not enforced | Feb 10 01:15 |
DaemonFC | you should know that | Feb 10 01:15 |
FurnaceBoy | quite | Feb 10 01:15 |
FurnaceBoy | i do | Feb 10 01:15 |
FurnaceBoy | MS goes even further than that | Feb 10 01:15 |
_goblin | DaemonFC: Certainly in the UK, that is a myth which I would robustly challenge. | Feb 10 01:15 |
DaemonFC | why do you think the Supreme Court let companies donate unlimited money in US elections from now on? | Feb 10 01:15 |
DaemonFC | the judges were bribed | Feb 10 01:15 |
_goblin | DaemonFC: I can't talk for the US, but in the UK (and certainly at the moment) the rich and powerful are the ones most likely to suffer the "wrath" of the law. | Feb 10 01:16 |
DaemonFC | Why else would they go out of their way to stretch the constitution so much to give corporations more undue influence on our elections? | Feb 10 01:16 |
schestowitz | MinceR: thanks | Feb 10 01:18 |
DaemonFC | if I went and gave them a bigger briefcase full of cash to not rule in favor of the companies, they would find against them | Feb 10 01:19 |
DaemonFC | that's all this is | Feb 10 01:19 |
DaemonFC | we have the finest laws money can buy | Feb 10 01:21 |
DaemonFC | the stimulus act didn't even create any jobs really, it was a handout to Obama's campaign supporters | Feb 10 01:22 |
DaemonFC | they can't even tell you where the money has gone | Feb 10 01:22 |
DaemonFC | they're sending it to zip codes that don't exist | Feb 10 01:22 |
DaemonFC | literally | Feb 10 01:22 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: BAE ?! | Feb 10 01:24 |
_goblin | You'll have to explain that one to me, Im not familiar. | Feb 10 01:25 |
FurnaceBoy | you live in the UK? | Feb 10 01:25 |
FurnaceBoy | you haven't followed the SFO's long-running pursuit of BAE and this week's wrist-slap fine? | Feb 10 01:25 |
DaemonFC | next time I sign up to volunteer to go canvassing, I'm going to throw all the door placards away, kill an hour each trip, and mark down bullshit data for each house like moved, vacant, dead, and then whoever anyone I do talk to says they're voting for, I'm going to mark it down as the opposite | Feb 10 01:27 |
DaemonFC | then in 2016, anyone who hits those routes is wasting their time | Feb 10 01:27 |
DaemonFC | knocking on Republican doors asking them to vote Democrat and vice versa | Feb 10 01:27 |
DaemonFC | better yet, I'm going canvassing for the Republicans on some routes they'll pay you for and trashing their data | Feb 10 01:28 |
DaemonFC | oh yeah | Feb 10 01:28 |
_goblin | yes but I didn't think you were meaning that.... | Feb 10 01:29 |
_goblin | I don't think it shows a conspiracy or "dirty play"...if think its more an indictment of the state of the economy and how to limit further damage on it....the lesser of two evils. | Feb 10 01:29 |
DaemonFC | take 8 hours of pay and spend all 8 hours doing whatever | Feb 10 01:29 |
DaemonFC | I heard some of the people they were hiring to do that were doing just that | Feb 10 01:30 |
DaemonFC | throwing the shit away and coming back 8 hours later for their money | Feb 10 01:30 |
_goblin | sounds like some of the people I work with. | Feb 10 01:30 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQwco3w7Zao America: Brave? Free? | Feb 10 01:31 |
DaemonFC | I would normally be against that _goblin, but their employer is the Republican Party | Feb 10 01:31 |
DaemonFC | so I would do the same thing | Feb 10 01:31 |
_goblin | ah..... | Feb 10 01:31 |
_goblin | I avoid politics as Im not supposed to comment on it. | Feb 10 01:31 |
_goblin | I don't have an opinion. | Feb 10 01:31 |
DaemonFC | _goblin, Wouldn't you do that to the BNP if they asked you to go canvassing | Feb 10 01:32 |
DaemonFC | and offered to pay? :) | Feb 10 01:32 |
_goblin | no..... | Feb 10 01:32 |
_goblin | I wouldn't want to be associated | Feb 10 01:32 |
_goblin | in any way. | Feb 10 01:32 |
DaemonFC | fuck, I'd take $9.50 an hour to go sabotage the Republicans | Feb 10 01:32 |
DaemonFC | you're damned right I would | Feb 10 01:32 |
_goblin | would it really make a difference in the grand scheme of things? | Feb 10 01:33 |
DaemonFC | they'll have you working a week or two doing that, get $1,000-ish dollars and go home and sleep all day | Feb 10 01:33 |
DaemonFC | sign me up | Feb 10 01:33 |
_goblin | or would it be more a case of personal "revenge" and an indulgence of your own. | Feb 10 01:33 |
DaemonFC | kind of both | Feb 10 01:33 |
DaemonFC | it's your enemy paying you to fuck them over | Feb 10 01:34 |
DaemonFC | how much sweeter can it get? | Feb 10 01:34 |
_goblin | er | Feb 10 01:34 |
_goblin | having Paris Hilton accompany you? | Feb 10 01:34 |
DaemonFC | ewww | Feb 10 01:34 |
_goblin | btw she's mine. | Feb 10 01:34 |
DaemonFC | Stupid Spoiled Whore: Video Playset | Feb 10 01:34 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 10 01:34 |
_goblin | you say that like its a bad thing. | Feb 10 01:34 |
DaemonFC | http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154656/?searchterm=Stupid+Spoiled+Whore+Video+Playset | Feb 10 01:35 |
_goblin | you leave paris alone.... | Feb 10 01:35 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Stupid Spoiled Whore Video Playset - Clips - South Park Studios .::. Size~: 155 KB | Feb 10 01:35 |
DaemonFC | hehe | Feb 10 01:35 |
_goblin | she's a linux user | Feb 10 01:35 |
DaemonFC | uh huh | Feb 10 01:35 |
DaemonFC | do they make Linux-powered night vision cameras and dildos now? | Feb 10 01:35 |
DaemonFC | (they might, hell I don't know) | Feb 10 01:36 |
_goblin | no... | Feb 10 01:36 |
_goblin | she uses linux... | Feb 10 01:36 |
_goblin | here: | Feb 10 01:36 |
_goblin | http://www.bbspot.com/News/2006/08/paris-hilton-tinkerbell-linux.html | Feb 10 01:36 |
_goblin | ;) | Feb 10 01:36 |
DaemonFC | must be one of those toy laptops with Sugar | Feb 10 01:37 |
DaemonFC | :D | Feb 10 01:37 |
*DaemonFC ducks | Feb 10 01:37 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBspot - Paris Hilton Releases Tinkerbell Linux .::. Size~: 22.63 KB | Feb 10 01:37 |
_goblin | Quote of the day: (Paris on Linux) | Feb 10 01:37 |
_goblin | Many Linux users said they appreciate the exposure a star like Paris Hilton can give to the Linux movement, and added that they can "appreciate someone who can compile without panties on." | Feb 10 01:37 |
DaemonFC | uh huh..... | Feb 10 01:37 |
DaemonFC | I'm frightened by the name she could besmirch Linux with | Feb 10 01:38 |
DaemonFC | honestly | Feb 10 01:38 |
DaemonFC | no operating system besides Windows deserves her endorsement | Feb 10 01:39 |
DaemonFC | "I use Vista, tee hee, it's so intuitive!!!!" | Feb 10 01:39 |
DaemonFC | I could envision that | Feb 10 01:39 |
FurnaceBoy | yuss | Feb 10 01:43 |
DaemonFC | it's always the same thing with Windows, it's flawless at first then when a new version is out, Microsoft pays people to throw rotten vegetables at the last one | Feb 10 01:45 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 10 01:45 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Feb 10 01:46 |
_goblin | Right......... | Feb 10 01:46 |
_goblin | im off to bed | Feb 10 01:46 |
_goblin | nice talking to you all... | Feb 10 01:46 |
_goblin | see you later. | Feb 10 01:46 |
*_goblin has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) | Feb 10 01:46 | |
cubezzz | tinkerbell linux? | Feb 10 01:49 |
cubezzz | is this a put on? | Feb 10 01:50 |
cubezzz | yup I think so | Feb 10 01:52 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, Butters Linux | Feb 10 01:53 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 10 01:53 |
*cubezzz wants real news | Feb 10 01:53 | |
DaemonFC | http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154669/?searchterm=Stupid+Spoiled+Whore+Video+Playset | Feb 10 01:54 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Paris Makes an Offer - Clips - South Park Studios .::. Size~: 153.36 KB | Feb 10 01:54 |
DaemonFC | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8505998.stm | Feb 10 01:58 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 94.78 KB | Feb 10 01:58 |
balzac | http://www.disruptech.com/content/dancers <--- my people | Feb 10 02:00 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Dancers | Keep your people. Change your software. .::. Size~: 16.06 KB | Feb 10 02:00 |
balzac | that is the power of drugs combined with electronic music | Feb 10 02:01 |
DaemonFC | lmao | Feb 10 02:02 |
DaemonFC | I dabbled with some of both | Feb 10 02:02 |
DaemonFC | walking into a dance club with that techno shit playing is enough to make you think you're in Abu Ghraib | Feb 10 02:02 |
balzac | damn, I really don't like making websites | Feb 10 02:07 |
balzac | i wonder which is worse, being dead, or making websites | Feb 10 02:07 |
balzac | probably making websites | Feb 10 02:07 |
balzac | not really. I'm convinced being dead is going to be intolerable as well. | Feb 10 02:08 |
balzac | i hate design, i don't like clients, i'd rather work in sanitation | Feb 10 02:09 |
balzac | there might be a worse profession - working as a collections agent | Feb 10 02:10 |
balzac | how annoying would that be? | Feb 10 02:10 |
balzac | awfully persistent, professionally annoying | Feb 10 02:11 |
schestowitz | [01:39] <DaemonFC> no operating system besides Windows deserves her endorsement | Feb 10 02:11 |
schestowitz | [01:39] <DaemonFC> "I use Vista, tee hee, it's so intuitive!!!!" | Feb 10 02:11 |
schestowitz | TJ mocks Vista: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuXt3WwiFBg | Feb 10 02:11 |
schestowitz | Some due compared Vista to Jessica Simpson a few years ago | Feb 10 02:11 |
schestowitz | Looks pretty but useless was the idea | Feb 10 02:12 |
DaemonFC | "more likely to get fisted by a 2 ton gorilla named Barbara in the parking lot of an Outback Steakhouse than you are to die in a plane crash" lol | Feb 10 02:13 |
balzac | she's pretty sexy, and I bet she can cook as well | Feb 10 02:13 |
schestowitz | balzac: better than working on some other things | Feb 10 02:14 |
schestowitz | I used to some Web design | Feb 10 02:14 |
schestowitz | I know the annoying feeling of picky clients who keep wanting something changed | Feb 10 02:15 |
balzac | yeah, well i'm really bad at staying focused | Feb 10 02:15 |
balzac | yeah, clients are bad too | Feb 10 02:15 |
schestowitz | We're all clients | Feb 10 02:15 |
schestowitz | For example: | Feb 10 02:15 |
balzac | I woke up badly this morning | Feb 10 02:16 |
schestowitz | you may sometimes shop for food or dine somewhere | Feb 10 02:16 |
schestowitz | balzac: 'tleast woke up :-) | Feb 10 02:16 |
balzac | the guy next door put on a song by David Bowie - Major Tom | Feb 10 02:16 |
balzac | I was furious | Feb 10 02:16 |
schestowitz | Major Tom is cool | Feb 10 02:16 |
balzac | not a song to wake up to | Feb 10 02:16 |
schestowitz | I love that song | Feb 10 02:16 |
schestowitz | Starman is better | Feb 10 02:16 |
schestowitz | There's a staaaaaar man... waiting in the sky..... | Feb 10 02:17 |
balzac | yeah, well it my paranoid state of mind, it's not what I wanted to hear, certainly not what I wanted to wake up to. | Feb 10 02:17 |
balzac | I like some David Bowie songs, but I've been very selective about music which carries moods in recent years | Feb 10 02:17 |
schestowitz | Maybe it was g0^h^h^h^hd waking you up | Feb 10 02:17 |
schestowitz | "Put your helmet on..." | Feb 10 02:18 |
schestowitz | "God control to major Tom......" | Feb 10 02:18 |
balzac | it was the guy next door who put it on, went to cook his breakfast, left his door open, so it was blaring right through my door. | Feb 10 02:18 |
amarsh04 | replie with Philip Glass' "Heroes Symphony" at suitable volume (-: | Feb 10 02:18 |
schestowitz | You need to replace him with a girl nxt door maybe | Feb 10 02:19 |
DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/09/dadt-repeal-activist-lt-d_n_455366.html | Feb 10 02:19 |
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schestowitz | They are quieter | Feb 10 02:19 |
balzac | Yes, that would be preferable | Feb 10 02:19 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: but he lives with zombies..... | Feb 10 02:19 |
balzac | and better in every way | Feb 10 02:19 |
schestowitz | http://www.disruptech.com/content/dancers | Feb 10 02:20 |
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balzac | Anyway, I'm slowly dying, same as ever | Feb 10 02:20 |
DaemonFC | ewww | Feb 10 02:20 |
schestowitz | Slowly is good | Feb 10 02:20 |
DaemonFC | Bing search in Huffington Post | Feb 10 02:20 |
schestowitz | We're all dying | Feb 10 02:20 |
schestowitz | Some faster than others | Feb 10 02:20 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: ouch | Feb 10 02:20 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: their fall from grace was rapid and complete | Feb 10 02:20 |
balzac | As the Pink Floyd song goes "quiet desperation is the English way" | Feb 10 02:21 |
schestowitz | One thing we all share is that we're gonna die | Feb 10 02:21 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: what a bunch of a**holes | Feb 10 02:21 |
balzac | I can relate to that | Feb 10 02:21 |
FurnaceBoy | balzac: Dark Side of the Moon is a fine album :) | Feb 10 02:21 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: maybe a quiet deal between Aryanna and Billie | Feb 10 02:21 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: undoubtedly | Feb 10 02:21 |
balzac | schestowitz: yeah, but we've got years of misery ahead, I guess. | Feb 10 02:21 |
*FurnaceBoy retches | Feb 10 02:21 | |
schestowitz | He gave her... 10 minutes of his time.... oh precious | Feb 10 02:21 |
balzac | sure it is, but I avoid Pink Floyd for its moodiness | Feb 10 02:21 |
FurnaceBoy | balzac: Thick as a Brick then? | Feb 10 02:21 |
schestowitz | And she gives him a Monica and a tol bar | Feb 10 02:21 |
balzac | ? | Feb 10 02:22 |
FurnaceBoy | balzac: Jethro Tull | Feb 10 02:22 |
balzac | too heavy | Feb 10 02:22 |
balzac | I listen to stuff which is more dry | Feb 10 02:22 |
FurnaceBoy | Faithless? | Feb 10 02:22 |
balzac | We probably never listen to the same songs | Feb 10 02:23 |
FurnaceBoy | :) | Feb 10 02:23 |
FurnaceBoy | except DSOTM | Feb 10 02:23 |
balzac | ? | Feb 10 02:23 |
FurnaceBoy | Dark Side of the Moon | Feb 10 02:23 |
balzac | oh, I don't listen to that any more | Feb 10 02:23 |
FurnaceBoy | but I don't listen to much music habitually | Feb 10 02:23 |
FurnaceBoy | nor me | Feb 10 02:23 |
balzac | too depressing | Feb 10 02:23 |
cubezzz | I'm listening to wgbh classical music | Feb 10 02:24 |
balzac | I think it's time to turn up the level of brutality in the political arena | Feb 10 02:25 |
balzac | The Republicans in congress need to have the stuffing kicked out of them | Feb 10 02:25 |
balzac | their suffering can bring some relative joy | Feb 10 02:25 |
schestowitz | DaemonFOC would oppose | Feb 10 02:26 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Nope | Feb 10 02:26 |
FurnaceBoy | well, he's a very confused young man | Feb 10 02:26 |
DaemonFC | I think they all need to be loaded onto an ocean liner and sank halfway | Feb 10 02:26 |
DaemonFC | then we can start over and do things right | Feb 10 02:27 |
balzac | well, that's a bit harsh | Feb 10 02:27 |
FurnaceBoy | [20:27:55] DaemonFC | fuck, I'd take $9.50 an hour to go sabotage the Republicans | Feb 10 02:27 |
DaemonFC | loaded into a rocket and fired into the sun? | Feb 10 02:27 |
balzac | they're a miserable lot | Feb 10 02:27 |
DaemonFC | I don't just mean Republicans, I mean *all* of them | Feb 10 02:27 |
DaemonFC | every last one | Feb 10 02:27 |
balzac | depending on who you're talking about | Feb 10 02:27 |
balzac | extremism is wasteful | Feb 10 02:28 |
DaemonFC | I got a survey asking how much I agreed with the Republicans and the Democrats | Feb 10 02:28 |
balzac | i say eat the hearts of your enemies, if any are foolish enough to be enemies | Feb 10 02:28 |
DaemonFC | for Republicans I answered "Not at all" | Feb 10 02:28 |
DaemonFC | for the Democrats I answered "Strongly Disagree" | Feb 10 02:28 |
balzac | probably a heart all chopped and sauteed could be good with chipotle sauce | Feb 10 02:29 |
balzac | i'm hungry | Feb 10 02:29 |
DaemonFC | the Democrats are the bastards that are only half a notch up from the bottom | Feb 10 02:29 |
balzac | but broad condemnations are another issue | Feb 10 02:29 |
FurnaceBoy | balzac: sounds like you're referring to the Aztec Cookbook! | Feb 10 02:29 |
balzac | FurnaceBoy: yeah | Feb 10 02:29 |
balzac | I'm hungry too, so when my political animosity is combined with hunger, I start thinking about sauteeing their hearts. | Feb 10 02:29 |
FurnaceBoy | :) | Feb 10 02:30 |
balzac | I should just finish my stupid website and get money to have a sandwich from the deli | Feb 10 02:30 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, I'm probably going to vote for the Libertarians this year | Feb 10 02:30 |
DaemonFC | just a protest vote I know they never win | Feb 10 02:30 |
DaemonFC | but still | Feb 10 02:31 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: that would be a laudable move | Feb 10 02:31 |
DaemonFC | I don't even think I can hold my nose and vote for Evan Bayh again | Feb 10 02:31 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: afaict he's one of the loonies | Feb 10 02:31 |
DaemonFC | not a loonie | Feb 10 02:31 |
DaemonFC | just bought and paid for by pharma | Feb 10 02:32 |
DaemonFC | among other things | Feb 10 02:32 |
FurnaceBoy | well, what more do you want? that's enough for the guillotine | Feb 10 02:32 |
schestowitz | Lobbyists and corporations steal all your votes | Feb 10 02:32 |
DaemonFC | we need a clearance. everything must go | Feb 10 02:32 |
schestowitz | The public is then just left to endorse the preselected candidates | Feb 10 02:32 |
balzac | no, that's not enough for guillotine | Feb 10 02:32 |
DaemonFC | every office up for election, no incumbents | Feb 10 02:33 |
schestowitz | This situation has all sorts of names | Feb 10 02:33 |
balzac | mere corruption isn't such a big deal. it's the wars, war-profiteering and torture. | Feb 10 02:33 |
FurnaceBoy | balzac: I could not agree more | Feb 10 02:33 |
balzac | that's what brings out the shaman in me | Feb 10 02:33 |
schestowitz | balzac: agreed | Feb 10 02:33 |
schestowitz | But... | Feb 10 02:33 |
FurnaceBoy | balzac: the latter merit the rusty guillotine | Feb 10 02:33 |
balzac | makes me want to get high, cut out the heart of my enemy and make it into a spicy burrito | Feb 10 02:33 |
DaemonFC | jono, I ended up using Scroogle in Firefox btw | Feb 10 02:33 |
schestowitz | Corruption leads to war, torture, death etc. | Feb 10 02:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: how are you doing tracking down Blair for that citizens arrest | Feb 10 02:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Feb 10 02:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: inexorably | Feb 10 02:34 |
balzac | but I shouldn't give other people ideas | Feb 10 02:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: deadly embrace | Feb 10 02:34 |
balzac | people are stupid | Feb 10 02:34 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: he whitewashed some of his past | Feb 10 02:34 |
schestowitz | Many people like him | Feb 10 02:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: indeed | Feb 10 02:34 |
schestowitz | Well, many Russian youth love Stalin too | Feb 10 02:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Chilcot gave him a venue for more revision | Feb 10 02:34 |
balzac | I wonder if I have any enemies. | Feb 10 02:35 |
schestowitz | balzac: doesn't matter | Feb 10 02:35 |
balzac | maybe you're right | Feb 10 02:35 |
schestowitz | All it takes for chaos to triumph is for the informed guys/gals to stop fighting | Feb 10 02:35 |
schestowitz | Damn, I'm too tired to bloody tweet..... | Feb 10 02:36 |
*schestowitz has tea break | Feb 10 02:36 | |
balzac | well, I'm not tired of fighting, I'm tired of working | Feb 10 02:36 |
schestowitz | Same thing? | Feb 10 02:38 |
balzac | not for me | Feb 10 02:38 |
schestowitz | Well... | Feb 10 02:38 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/11/30/bayh/index.html | Feb 10 02:38 |
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schestowitz | Not in the war sense | Feb 10 02:38 |
FurnaceBoy | Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh -- who was one of the most vocal cheerleaders for the invasion of Iraq, talks excitedly about punishing, and even bombing, Iran, and is now demanding full-scale escalation in Afghanistan -- was on Fox News yesterday and highlighted what a fraud most so-called "fiscal conservatives" and "deficit hawks" like him really are | Feb 10 02:38 |
schestowitz | Fighting as in antagonising | Feb 10 02:39 |
schestowitz | Or extinguishign rather | Feb 10 02:39 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Biden too | Feb 10 02:39 |
schestowitz | Biden is like Obama's Brain | Feb 10 02:39 |
schestowitz | The bad one | Feb 10 02:39 |
FurnaceBoy | like Cheney was Bush's ? | Feb 10 02:39 |
balzac | schestowitz: not really | Feb 10 02:39 |
schestowitz | Pinky &the Brain | Feb 10 02:39 |
schestowitz | Same with Cheney | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | Maybe Gore | Feb 10 02:40 |
FurnaceBoy | certainly had none of his own to speak of. one thinks of a walnut, or a desiccated monkey testicle. | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | One is the actor | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | Well | Feb 10 02:40 |
FurnaceBoy | what a repellent waste of flesh | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | Acting | Feb 10 02:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: precisely | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | One is spokesman | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | One acts | Feb 10 02:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that is all the president is: actor/spokesman | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | The police has the same mechanism | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | Bad and good cop | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | Or bully and communicator | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | Microsoft has that too | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | The slimy Sam Ramji... | Feb 10 02:40 |
schestowitz | With Steve Bummer behind him | Feb 10 02:41 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: it has more layrs | Feb 10 02:41 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, In a race like this you have a Republican and a Republican | Feb 10 02:41 |
schestowitz | Pelosi | Feb 10 02:41 |
schestowitz | He's like the grandma type | Feb 10 02:41 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Feb 10 02:41 |
DaemonFC | neither vote will make a difference | Feb 10 02:41 |
schestowitz | Take care of you, makes no decisions | Feb 10 02:41 |
schestowitz | With Obama, you can slam him for decision | Feb 10 02:41 |
schestowitz | Grandma Pelosi... you can whine to her about bad uncle Obama | Feb 10 02:42 |
FurnaceBoy | haha | Feb 10 02:42 |
balzac | Well, "progressives" began to scatter right away | Feb 10 02:42 |
DaemonFC | we need the Libertarians | Feb 10 02:42 |
FurnaceBoy | yes. the dysfunctional family. | Feb 10 02:42 |
DaemonFC | not the Teabaggers | Feb 10 02:42 |
schestowitz | Monsanto is like that too | Feb 10 02:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: or Seinfeld. "No learning." should be the American motto. | Feb 10 02:42 |
schestowitz | The "talk to the hand" figureheads | Feb 10 02:42 |
balzac | so many "progressives" were looking for an excuse to withdraw their support right after inauguration | Feb 10 02:42 |
schestowitz | You can't talk directly to the criminals | Feb 10 02:42 |
schestowitz | And often the PR people are women | Feb 10 02:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes! | Feb 10 02:42 |
schestowitz | Cause they can't be slammed similarly | Feb 10 02:42 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, wars of aggression would end with the Libertarians | Feb 10 02:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Dana Perino | Feb 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | civil rights would be respected | Feb 10 02:43 |
schestowitz | Nestle did this | Feb 10 02:43 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: very clever strategy | Feb 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | it's just what we need | Feb 10 02:43 |
schestowitz | Microsoft seems to be doing it this week with Paula Hunter | Feb 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | wasteful government programs cut | Feb 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | military cut | Feb 10 02:43 |
schestowitz | Be careful not to slam CodePlex foundation | Feb 10 02:43 |
schestowitz | Then you're sexist | Feb 10 02:43 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Blair did this, putting Cherie forward like a human shield | Feb 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | weed decriminalized | Feb 10 02:43 |
schestowitz | If you attack MS MVP de Icaza you're racist, maybe | Feb 10 02:43 |
FurnaceBoy | LOL | Feb 10 02:43 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: good point | Feb 10 02:43 |
balzac | American congress is really corrupt, in a way which makes it ineffective | Feb 10 02:43 |
DaemonFC | if we had a government like that FurnaceBoy, taxes would be about 1/5th of that they are now | Feb 10 02:44 |
schestowitz | [02:43] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: Blair did this, putting Cherie forward like a human shield | Feb 10 02:44 |
schestowitz | Melinda Cherie Gates? | Feb 10 02:44 |
FurnaceBoy | LOL! | Feb 10 02:44 |
FurnaceBoy | YES! | Feb 10 02:44 |
balzac | rancid corruption | Feb 10 02:44 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you nailed it | Feb 10 02:44 |
schestowitz | Mind you, they are friends | Feb 10 02:44 |
schestowitz | Don't insult my wife!! | Feb 10 02:44 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, Taxes take away individual buying power | Feb 10 02:44 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: SHE was the one on the Davos panels. | Feb 10 02:44 |
DaemonFC | they cripple the poor even worse | Feb 10 02:44 |
schestowitz | It's the Bill AND MELINDA Gates foundry | Feb 10 02:44 |
DaemonFC | they push the middle class out of existence | Feb 10 02:44 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: she was at Bilderberg too | Feb 10 02:44 |
balzac | the thing people should keep in mind is that we cannot fully comprehend the disdain with which the elite look upon the "plebes" | Feb 10 02:45 |
schestowitz | Mundie also | Feb 10 02:45 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: and they give you roads, police, fire depts, schools, hospitals, water, yadda yadda | Feb 10 02:45 |
balzac | look at a monkey flinging its own poo - this is how they perceive us. | Feb 10 02:45 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: all the stuff your states can no longer afford | Feb 10 02:45 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, Well no shit | Feb 10 02:45 |
DaemonFC | but that's not anywhere near what we're spending | Feb 10 02:45 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: war, my good man, war | Feb 10 02:45 |
balzac | but I should be careful, because people are angry enough | Feb 10 02:45 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: is your sickness | Feb 10 02:45 |
DaemonFC | The government is fleecing us for shit we don't need | Feb 10 02:45 |
schestowitz | balzac: yes | Feb 10 02:45 |
schestowitz | Obama commented on blogs | Feb 10 02:46 |
balzac | I'm just saying, it's hard to underestimate the disdain the elite feel for us | Feb 10 02:46 |
DaemonFC | things we don't need involved with | Feb 10 02:46 |
schestowitz | He said it was a bunch of people shouting at each other | Feb 10 02:46 |
DaemonFC | I'm not arguing that there shouldn't be taxes for roads and schools | Feb 10 02:46 |
schestowitz | What a nerve he has... | Feb 10 02:46 |
schestowitz | Community organiser......... | Feb 10 02:46 |
schestowitz | Which community? | Feb 10 02:46 |
schestowitz | Big banks? | Feb 10 02:46 |
DaemonFC | That's why I said the useful projects represent about 20% of the taxes they take from us, FurnaceBoy | Feb 10 02:46 |
balzac | schestowitz: think about Fox | Feb 10 02:47 |
DaemonFC | 80% of it is not benefiting anyone that needs it | Feb 10 02:47 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: no doubt. deficits suck eh | Feb 10 02:47 |
schestowitz | It was discussed, IIRC, in the context of bailing out 'official' news sites | Feb 10 02:47 |
schestowitz | Obama doesn't like blog | Feb 10 02:47 |
balzac | schestowitz: religion inspires people to some extreme levels of selfishness | Feb 10 02:47 |
schestowitz | Not enough regulation | Feb 10 02:47 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: maybe perpetual war wasn't such a great thing for the american people | Feb 10 02:47 |
schestowitz | /blog/blogs | Feb 10 02:47 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: wonderful for the elites though | Feb 10 02:47 |
balzac | it's paradoxical, but people with faith are extraordinarily thoughtless of others. | Feb 10 02:47 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: quickest way to move cash yet invented | Feb 10 02:47 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, I'd dismantle all of the government that wasn't doing things that people couldn't do for themselves | Feb 10 02:47 |
schestowitz | balzac: no, no :-) | Feb 10 02:48 |
balzac | I've been cultivating my own sense of entitlement, but I'm not convinced I've a strong enough sense of entitlement just yet. | Feb 10 02:48 |
DaemonFC | reduce the military to a purely defensive force | Feb 10 02:48 |
schestowitz | Religion is all about tolerance :-) | Feb 10 02:48 |
schestowitz | Cause you're the best | Feb 10 02:48 |
schestowitz | And God loves YOU, unlike those infidels | Feb 10 02:48 |
balzac | They have a believe in what is called "divine entitlement" | Feb 10 02:48 |
balzac | Pat Robertson is the worst | Feb 10 02:48 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: won't happen in our lifetimes :) | Feb 10 02:48 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: it's tricky | Feb 10 02:48 |
DaemonFC | Ronald Reagan said it best even though he didn't practice it. The scariest words you'll ever here are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" | Feb 10 02:49 |
balzac | honestly, I've made a standing offer, if he wants to have a prayer war to the death | Feb 10 02:49 |
schestowitz | Cause you never know when defence will be needed | Feb 10 02:49 |
schestowitz | So you over-arm | Feb 10 02:49 |
balzac | I will pray for Pat Robertson's death with all my might | Feb 10 02:49 |
balzac | and he can pray for my death | Feb 10 02:49 |
schestowitz | Like Finland after years of aggression from Russia | Feb 10 02:49 |
DaemonFC | *hear | Feb 10 02:49 |
balzac | we'll see who has a stronger relationship with God | Feb 10 02:49 |
schestowitz | [02:49] <DaemonFC> Ronald Reagan said it best even though he didn't practice it. | Feb 10 02:49 |
schestowitz | Practice what? | Feb 10 02:49 |
DaemonFC | balzac, What's sickening is that they set up "colleges" for Christian brainwashing which get accredited! | Feb 10 02:50 |
schestowitz | Why practice? | Feb 10 02:50 |
schestowitz | Ab crunches? :) | Feb 10 02:50 |
balzac | DaemonFC: I don't care anymore | Feb 10 02:50 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, the less government, the better. | Feb 10 02:50 |
schestowitz | Hey, how about a religion that requires exercise | Feb 10 02:50 |
schestowitz | ? | Feb 10 02:50 |
DaemonFC | strip it to the bone | Feb 10 02:50 |
balzac | In my best moments, I'm even beyond anger at Pat Robertson | Feb 10 02:50 |
schestowitz | You can defeat lack of direction AND OBESITY at the same time | Feb 10 02:50 |
DaemonFC | give people their tax money back | Feb 10 02:50 |
schestowitz | At church you'd have mats, not pews | Feb 10 02:50 |
schestowitz | And the pastor play a boom box | Feb 10 02:50 |
DaemonFC | crack open Social Security and return what's left | Feb 10 02:50 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 10 02:50 |
balzac | He is a wayward fool and my faith is more powerful than his | Feb 10 02:51 |
balzac | I don't have to hate him | Feb 10 02:51 |
balzac | I would like to meet him in person so he could see the power of my faith in person | Feb 10 02:51 |
schestowitz | What is faith? | Feb 10 02:51 |
balzac | I'm more of a Sith Lord than him | Feb 10 02:51 |
balzac | it's a feeling | Feb 10 02:51 |
schestowitz | It's belief without evidence | Feb 10 02:51 |
DaemonFC | remember when Bush was trying to make it so that instead of sending your money to Social Security for the government to steal and spend on bullshit, you could turn it into a de facto 401(k) isntead? | Feb 10 02:51 |
schestowitz | I.e. it's level of ignorance | Feb 10 02:52 |
balzac | no, there doesn't need to be belief | Feb 10 02:52 |
schestowitz | wilful ignorance even | Feb 10 02:52 |
DaemonFC | you'd be hard pressed to lose more of your money in the stock market than in Social Security | Feb 10 02:52 |
balzac | not here | Feb 10 02:52 |
DaemonFC | you're paying 25% of your wages to Social Security (you pay half and you don't see the other half that your employer has to pay) | Feb 10 02:53 |
DaemonFC | 25% of your wages over 50 years of working | Feb 10 02:53 |
DaemonFC | so you can live on what amounts to half of minimum wage if you ever get to retire | Feb 10 02:53 |
balzac | schestowitz: you can have faith without delusional beliefs | Feb 10 02:54 |
schestowitz | what is faith? | Feb 10 02:54 |
schestowitz | Hypothesis? | Feb 10 02:54 |
balzac | no thinking to arrive at faith, no thinking derived from it | Feb 10 02:54 |
balzac | just a feeling | Feb 10 02:54 |
DaemonFC | lets say over the course of your life, you average $35,000 a year, most people don't, but it's an example. | Feb 10 02:55 |
balzac | that's how it should be | Feb 10 02:55 |
cubezzz | thoughts = reality remember :) | Feb 10 02:55 |
DaemonFC | You pay $437,500 to Social Security and get back $1200 a month until you die | Feb 10 02:55 |
balzac | cubezzz: thoughts are a part of reality | Feb 10 02:55 |
balzac | thoughts are informed cognition | Feb 10 02:56 |
cubezzz | you want to open a can of beans, you open it, it's reality :) | Feb 10 02:56 |
balzac | there is formless awareness as well | Feb 10 02:56 |
DaemonFC | assuming you retire at 67 and live to be 82, you get $216,000 back | Feb 10 02:56 |
DaemonFC | out of the $437,500 | Feb 10 02:56 |
balzac | i know what reality is | Feb 10 02:56 |
DaemonFC | so you're doing good to get about 45% of what you paid in | Feb 10 02:56 |
balzac | i believe in evolution as the origin of nature | Feb 10 02:56 |
DaemonFC | the system is "going broke" not because people ever get back more than they put in | Feb 10 02:56 |
balzac | i'm not seeking a rewarding afterlife | Feb 10 02:56 |
cubezzz | a man thought he was burnt by a cigarette, and develops a blister on his arm | Feb 10 02:57 |
DaemonFC | the government is stealing your retirement to fund pet projects | Feb 10 02:57 |
cubezzz | when in fact his friend touched him with the eraser end of a pencil | Feb 10 02:57 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe that's why they give us cigarettes :-) | Feb 10 02:57 |
DaemonFC | and to send off foreign aide to countries while we bomb other ones | Feb 10 02:57 |
cubezzz | one example | Feb 10 02:57 |
cubezzz | the power of suggestion | Feb 10 02:57 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, and many people die before they are old enough to get anything back | Feb 10 02:57 |
DaemonFC | and Social Security just keeps it | Feb 10 02:58 |
DaemonFC | you can't leave it to family | Feb 10 02:58 |
schestowitz | Good for the rich | Feb 10 02:58 |
schestowitz | They live longer | Feb 10 02:58 |
DaemonFC | exactly | Feb 10 02:58 |
schestowitz | THe others live in fantasy | Feb 10 02:58 |
schestowitz | "I will live well when I leave this job..." | Feb 10 02:58 |
schestowitz | "I will live well when I retire..." | Feb 10 02:58 |
DaemonFC | and they cap how much you owe the tax on to a max of $102,500 a year | Feb 10 02:58 |
schestowitz | "I will live well when I go to heaven..." | Feb 10 02:58 |
DaemonFC | so that's all the tax Steve Ballmer pays | Feb 10 02:58 |
schestowitz | "I will live well when my son because a millionaire" | Feb 10 02:58 |
DaemonFC | like 5% of his income | Feb 10 02:58 |
cubezzz | you think you are happy = you are happy | Feb 10 02:58 |
balzac | people need to reach a population plateau | Feb 10 02:58 |
DaemonFC | while most people pay 25% | Feb 10 02:59 |
cubezzz | you think you are sad = you are sad | Feb 10 02:59 |
schestowitz | "I will live well when my son goes to him next job......" | Feb 10 02:59 |
schestowitz | "I will live well when my son wins the lottry" | Feb 10 02:59 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: +++ | Feb 10 02:59 |
DaemonFC | Social Security is not a good thing, it's not there for you | Feb 10 02:59 |
DaemonFC | it's there as a backdoor tax | Feb 10 02:59 |
DaemonFC | a damned big one | Feb 10 02:59 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I actually term this, now, the "Lottery" theory of life, when describing the US mindset | Feb 10 03:00 |
DaemonFC | Social Security is like a casino, where the house always wins | Feb 10 03:00 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: essentially covered by Faludi's "Stiffed" (highly recommended) | Feb 10 03:00 |
cubezzz | assuming there is no afterlife you may as well live as long as possible | Feb 10 03:00 |
DaemonFC | it's not there to help the elderly or the disabled | Feb 10 03:00 |
balzac | more like a ponzi scheme | Feb 10 03:00 |
balzac | but this is because society is so driven by non-sustainable technology | Feb 10 03:00 |
DaemonFC | and like any casino, they have to pay out a little bit now and then so people think you can win | Feb 10 03:00 |
cubezzz | I'd say your odds are better than the casino :) | Feb 10 03:01 |
DaemonFC | my guess is they take in $4 for every $1 in benefits they ever have to pay out | Feb 10 03:01 |
balzac | the fact is, people aren't living sustainably | Feb 10 03:01 |
cubezzz | you don't even know how those casino machines have been programmed | Feb 10 03:01 |
balzac | the ecology is more fundamental than the economy | Feb 10 03:01 |
DaemonFC | there's no possible reason they're being "burdened" by retirees or the disabled | Feb 10 03:02 |
DaemonFC | they simply CANNOT be | Feb 10 03:02 |
balzac | ecology > economy | Feb 10 03:02 |
cubezzz | yes, so grow some food :) | Feb 10 03:02 |
balzac | too many people, not enough nature equals economic suicide | Feb 10 03:02 |
cubezzz | grocery bill = smaller | Feb 10 03:02 |
DaemonFC | Social Security takes in over twice what they pay out even if EVERYONE lives to be 82 and retires at 67 | Feb 10 03:02 |
DaemonFC | and people dying before 67 is just a bonus | Feb 10 03:02 |
balzac | people need to be disabused of their false ideas | Feb 10 03:02 |
cubezzz | what happens to the extra money? | Feb 10 03:03 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, They steal it | Feb 10 03:03 |
DaemonFC | it's a tax, like I told you | Feb 10 03:03 |
balzac | so they will enthusiastically cooperate with certain standards | Feb 10 03:03 |
DaemonFC | it's 75% tax, 25% public benefit | Feb 10 03:03 |
DaemonFC | casino | Feb 10 03:03 |
cubezzz | balzac, Amish ftw :) | Feb 10 03:03 |
DaemonFC | Social Security is 3 times the burden on the public than it is a benefit | Feb 10 03:04 |
balzac | Basically, my intention is to beat the defiance out of those who seek to finish off nature | Feb 10 03:04 |
DaemonFC | the taxpaying working poor have to carry Social Security on their back their entire life | Feb 10 03:04 |
cubezzz | ok, so what are you saying, get rid of Social Security and just save more? | Feb 10 03:04 |
DaemonFC | yes | Feb 10 03:04 |
DaemonFC | dismantle it, audit it, refund whatever is in there | Feb 10 03:05 |
balzac | where it concerns the preservation of the remains of nature, un-touched by human development, there can be no compromise | Feb 10 03:05 |
balzac | and the focus of aggression should not be the poor people who develop this land | Feb 10 03:05 |
balzac | it must be the figureheads | Feb 10 03:05 |
balzac | non-aggression against little guys. Sure, they can be opposed to save creatures as necessary. | Feb 10 03:06 |
balzac | poachers can be intercepted and such | Feb 10 03:06 |
DaemonFC | the rich basically don't pay Social Security tax, the MOST that Ballmer is paying is 12.5% of the first $102,500 of his salary | Feb 10 03:06 |
balzac | but those who finance the last destruction are the ones to pay the ultimate price | Feb 10 03:06 |
DaemonFC | then he doesn't pay them more after that | Feb 10 03:06 |
balzac | People are almost ready to accept that the ecology is the basis for economic prosperity | Feb 10 03:07 |
balzac | this is a fact | Feb 10 03:07 |
DaemonFC | Ballmer pays the IRS $12,812.50 a year towards Social Security | Feb 10 03:07 |
balzac | And I will try to give Rush Limbaugh a simultaneous stroke and heart attack with the power of telekenesis | Feb 10 03:07 |
DaemonFC | out of the millions he makes every year | Feb 10 03:07 |
balzac | if he opposes me, I will do what i can | Feb 10 03:08 |
DaemonFC | careful not to let him fall on you | Feb 10 03:08 |
balzac | yeah | Feb 10 03:08 |
DaemonFC | his corpse might pin you down and collapse your lungs | Feb 10 03:08 |
DaemonFC | :D | Feb 10 03:08 |
balzac | i'll stand clear | Feb 10 03:08 |
balzac | well, I don't think I need to do that | Feb 10 03:09 |
cubezzz | well, rich dudes obviously don't need Social Security | Feb 10 03:09 |
cubezzz | unless they do something really stupid | Feb 10 03:09 |
DaemonFC | you might be found with Rush on top of you | Feb 10 03:09 |
balzac | Rush Limbaugh probably already realizes the futility of opposition on a subconscious level | Feb 10 03:09 |
DaemonFC | imagine what people may think :) | Feb 10 03:10 |
balzac | he is already trying to comply | Feb 10 03:10 |
cubezzz | I don't understand the world :-/ | Feb 10 03:10 |
cubezzz | it seems like the jerks do great, and the nice people do crappy | Feb 10 03:10 |
DaemonFC | you'd think as grotesquely obese as he is, with all the cigars he smokes, with all the Oxycontin he abuses, he'd be dead already | Feb 10 03:10 |
DaemonFC | Chris Farley didn't live as long as Rush has | Feb 10 03:11 |
cubezzz | yeah, we can hope :) | Feb 10 03:11 |
balzac | well, I'm trying to think if there is one person who is defiant without any doubts | Feb 10 03:11 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux User Discovers the Scary Thing Which is #Windows http://ur1.ca/ly6s http://ur1.ca/ly6t | Feb 10 03:11 | |
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cubezzz | Rush is a goof | Feb 10 03:12 |
cubezzz | really, he's just a goof | Feb 10 03:12 |
FurnaceBoy | dangerous goof | Feb 10 03:12 |
DaemonFC | I'm all for teen dating 18>, I want to get well into my 40s and find some 18 year old that wants me for my money | Feb 10 03:12 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 10 03:12 |
balzac | I don't know if there are any defiant monsters of narcissism with an opposing political view | Feb 10 03:12 |
balzac | dick cheney shuts up for long periods of time | Feb 10 03:12 |
FurnaceBoy | people would cite Olbermann | Feb 10 03:12 |
FurnaceBoy | i dunno, i don't watch cable | Feb 10 03:13 |
balzac | well, he's pretty good | Feb 10 03:13 |
schestowitz | [03:00] <FurnaceBoy> schestowitz: I actually term this, now, the "Lottery" theory of life, when describing the US mindset | Feb 10 03:13 |
schestowitz | It comes from Hollywood | Feb 10 03:13 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Users Raise Money for Charity in LCA 2010 http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/335434/linux_conf_raises_33_000_charity/ | Feb 10 03:13 | |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes, reinforced by | Feb 10 03:13 |
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schestowitz | A lot of it is optimism | Feb 10 03:13 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: did you ever read "Stiffed" ? | Feb 10 03:13 |
cubezzz | make your own lottery :) | Feb 10 03:13 |
cubezzz | sell $10,000 in tickets and pay out $5000 | Feb 10 03:13 |
schestowitz | 90% of the population will want to have that green lawn with the two cars and the charming kids in a decent school without drugs and knide | Feb 10 03:13 |
schestowitz | *knives | Feb 10 03:14 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, I got a spam in the Yahell mail box I abandoned kinda sorta several years ago | Feb 10 03:14 |
DaemonFC | well, 3,000 or so, but this one was funny | Feb 10 03:14 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, I hate cutting the lawn, but people expect it | Feb 10 03:14 |
DaemonFC | I won the Microsoft-UK lottery | Feb 10 03:14 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yet, at the same time, have the schizophrenic attachment to arming themselves. | Feb 10 03:14 |
DaemonFC | I'm filthy stinking rich now | Feb 10 03:14 |
schestowitz | [03:00] <balzac> more like a ponzi scheme | Feb 10 03:14 |
schestowitz | Just pyramid, I think | Feb 10 03:14 |
DaemonFC | all I have to do is wire them an advance fee | Feb 10 03:14 |
schestowitz | Chain of commands | Feb 10 03:14 |
schestowitz | Some people command nobody | Feb 10 03:14 |
cubezzz | DaemonFC, good then you can paypal all of us a few bucks, right? :) | Feb 10 03:14 |
schestowitz | They are mere slavs | Feb 10 03:14 |
cubezzz | hahahaha | Feb 10 03:15 |
schestowitz | "vassals" to use a gentler term | Feb 10 03:15 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, I promise to use my Microsoft-UK lottery millions for good | Feb 10 03:15 |
schestowitz | Slaves got food and bed | Feb 10 03:15 |
schestowitz | Wage slaves get a ghetto | Feb 10 03:15 |
DaemonFC | right after I finish doing all kinds of wickedness and depravity | Feb 10 03:15 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 10 03:15 |
DaemonFC | maybe I'll commit the wickedness and depravity while hiring a PR firm to whitewash my public image | Feb 10 03:16 |
DaemonFC | seems to work for all the other rich assholes | Feb 10 03:16 |
balzac | make an opposing business plan | Feb 10 03:17 |
DaemonFC | no, I'm strictly a not for profit depraved organization | Feb 10 03:18 |
DaemonFC | a bona fide 501c(3) | Feb 10 03:18 |
*DaemonFC grins and his teeth shine | Feb 10 03:18 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz will have to open up a second blog and hire a full time writing staff to keep up with me | Feb 10 03:19 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Centre Established to Commemorate #GNU #Linux Advocate Bruno Knaapen http://ur1.ca/ly7q | Feb 10 03:20 | |
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DaemonFC | and then I'll pay Comcast and AT&T to block his site | Feb 10 03:20 |
DaemonFC | and nobody in the USA will know what a complete bastard I am | Feb 10 03:20 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Open University Makes Another Small Steps Towards #GNU #Linux http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/OU-announces-Linux-course-924329.html | Feb 10 03:21 | |
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DaemonFC | "There likely will be Mac and Unix snapshots next week, but right now we're working overtime to get Windows ready for beta. Please keep your comments relevant to the Windows version this time around." -Opera | Feb 10 03:24 |
DaemonFC | cool | Feb 10 03:24 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Audio Professional Chooses #GNU #Linux http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/36698-from-windows-to-linux-a-sound-decision | Feb 10 03:25 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Good State of the #GNU #Linux Desktop Experience in 2010 http://my.secondpad.com/the-linux-desktop-experience-for-2010 | Feb 10 03:26 | |
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DaemonFC | then there hasn't been any Linux builds for a month | Feb 10 03:27 |
DaemonFC | :P | Feb 10 03:27 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ABC Finally Supports Desktop #GNU #Linux http://gnuski.blogspot.com/2010/02/abc-tv-now-allows-linux-users-to-watch.html | Feb 10 03:28 | |
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cubezzz | opera is closed source | Feb 10 03:28 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How to Advocate #GNU #Linux to a Friend or Peer http://ur1.ca/ly8e http://ur1.ca/ly8f | Feb 10 03:29 | |
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cubezzz | CBC has changed the radio links again, lol | Feb 10 03:29 |
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cubezzz | " The permanent URLS have been changed." | Feb 10 03:31 |
cubezzz | well, then they weren't "permanent" then | Feb 10 03:31 |
schestowitz | prmalinks | Feb 10 03:31 |
cubezzz | is m3u a microsoft thing? | Feb 10 03:32 |
schestowitz | no | Feb 10 03:33 |
schestowitz | I used it back when Microsoft barely "discovered" media | Feb 10 03:33 |
cubezzz | from winamp I think | Feb 10 03:34 |
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cubezzz | anyways, it works with mplayer so no prob | Feb 10 03:34 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, m3u was from Winamp | Feb 10 03:34 |
schestowitz | just a list | Feb 10 03:35 |
schestowitz | Hardly a format | Feb 10 03:36 |
schestowitz | I used to view it as plain text | Feb 10 03:36 |
schestowitz | I think xmms handle it too | Feb 10 03:36 |
DaemonFC | wpl is Microsoft's | Feb 10 03:36 |
DaemonFC | custom XML | Feb 10 03:36 |
cubezzz | it's urksome that the URL keeps changing | Feb 10 03:36 |
DaemonFC | XPSF is also XML, but from Xiph.org | Feb 10 03:37 |
schestowitz | gn | Feb 10 03:37 |
DaemonFC | what's weird is that my Sansa doesn't understand XSPF, but it's not like that matters | Feb 10 03:37 |
DaemonFC | m3u works for Flac and Vorbis | Feb 10 03:37 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC Oh you were doing Ubuntu support. | Feb 10 04:31 |
*DaemonFC looks at that channel sometimes | Feb 10 04:32 | |
sebsebseb | I was rather active in it last year | Feb 10 04:32 |
DaemonFC | Lat FM is giving me a whole bunch of crap to ban right now | Feb 10 04:33 |
sebsebseb | what? | Feb 10 04:33 |
DaemonFC | Last.FM | Feb 10 04:33 |
DaemonFC | I'm on my recommendation channel | Feb 10 04:34 |
sebsebseb | yes what's happening? | Feb 10 04:34 |
DaemonFC | it's recommending things that are totally pissing me off | Feb 10 04:34 |
DaemonFC | 50's music, bands that bite in general | Feb 10 04:35 |
DaemonFC | lesbian stand-up comedians | Feb 10 04:35 |
DaemonFC | it's like a practical joke personalized just for me | Feb 10 04:35 |
sebsebseb | lesbian stand up comedians? | Feb 10 04:36 |
DaemonFC | yeah, it just recommended Wanda Sykes | Feb 10 04:36 |
DaemonFC | yuck | Feb 10 04:36 |
DaemonFC | OK, one Love after a series of about 20 Bans | Feb 10 04:36 |
sebsebseb | well I should be going to bed now really | Feb 10 04:38 |
sebsebseb | either that or make this into a rather long day | Feb 10 04:38 |
sebsebseb | so yeah bed soon | Feb 10 04:38 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC bye | Feb 10 04:39 |
DaemonFC | night | Feb 10 04:39 |
DaemonFC | http://www.last.fm/user/Baron1984 | Feb 10 04:39 |
DaemonFC | heh | Feb 10 04:39 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.last.fm/user/Baron1984/library | Feb 10 04:39 |
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DaemonFC | my entire library | Feb 10 04:39 |
DaemonFC | that's all on my hard disk and on CD | Feb 10 04:40 |
sebsebseb | ok a quick look | Feb 10 04:40 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, it's 52 pages long | Feb 10 04:40 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 10 04:40 |
DaemonFC | and fairly eclectic | Feb 10 04:41 |
sebsebseb | let's go to pm quickly | Feb 10 04:42 |
sebsebseb | jono will people be able to buy music in free formats from the music store? | Feb 10 04:54 |
DaemonFC | I can almost smell some kind of plug-in to Rhythmbox or Banshee that implements a front-end to Amazon MP3, sebsebseb | Feb 10 04:55 |
DaemonFC | It wouldn't surprise me if Ubuntu does that and gets a few cents off every MP3 sold | Feb 10 04:55 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC he said earlier that it's a plugin for Rhythombox ,but that Amazon isn't the provider | Feb 10 04:55 |
DaemonFC | probably that 7digital then | Feb 10 04:56 |
DaemonFC | or whatever it was | Feb 10 04:56 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, http://www.7digital.com/ | Feb 10 04:56 |
DaemonFC | that would be my next guess | Feb 10 04:56 |
DaemonFC | they have store fronts for the US and the UK | Feb 10 04:57 |
DaemonFC | so shoppers could be steered to the one that uses their currency | Feb 10 04:57 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, jono is paid to say anything Ubuntu does is awesome | Feb 10 04:57 |
DaemonFC | if Canonical wants to shit down your throat, jono's job it to say that's super fantastic | Feb 10 04:58 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 10 04:58 |
DaemonFC | *is | Feb 10 04:58 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC well Ubuntu is global, they need to sell the music to other counteries as well really | Feb 10 04:59 |
sebsebseb | Asia etc | Feb 10 04:59 |
DaemonFC | well, if they have the US, Canada, Europe, they already have most of the money they're going to make | Feb 10 04:59 |
DaemonFC | that's my opinion | Feb 10 04:59 |
sebsebseb | yeah that's probably true, oh and Australlia as well of course | Feb 10 05:00 |
sebsebseb | and New Zeland | Feb 10 05:00 |
FurnaceBoy | tiny | Feb 10 05:05 |
sebsebseb | FurnaceBoy tiny? | Feb 10 05:06 |
FurnaceBoy | aust+nz | Feb 10 05:08 |
sebsebseb | yeah I guess so | Feb 10 05:08 |
sebsebseb | anyway | Feb 10 05:08 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC FurnaceBoy I should go now really, so bye for now | Feb 10 05:09 |
FurnaceBoy | interesting stats. 5% of Australians live outside Australia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_diaspora | Feb 10 05:09 |
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FurnaceBoy | even higher for NZ | Feb 10 05:09 |
DaemonFC | night | Feb 10 05:09 |
sebsebseb | IRC really does suck me in | Feb 10 05:09 |
sebsebseb | and now I am going to unsuck myself :D | Feb 10 05:09 |
FurnaceBoy | - the highest ratios in 2005 were for Ireland (29 Irish-born people aged 15 years and over in other OECD countries for every 100 in Ireland) and for New Zealand (19 per 100). | Feb 10 05:09 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, John Howard AKA Mini-Bush | Feb 10 05:09 |
DaemonFC | got them going down the slippery slope | Feb 10 05:10 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: yes I am familiar with Howard | Feb 10 05:10 |
sebsebseb | by closing this stuff down | Feb 10 05:10 |
DaemonFC | sebsebseb, You're trying to unsuck yourself? | Feb 10 05:10 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: he's just another Blair/Harper/Bush/Palin asshole racist coward liar | Feb 10 05:10 |
DaemonFC | hmmm | Feb 10 05:10 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC yes as in get off IRC, see above | Feb 10 05:10 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, don't hold back, tell me how you REALLY feel! | Feb 10 05:11 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: presumably that's why , like Bush, he was re-elected. enough morons voted. | Feb 10 05:11 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, The Republicans try to stop people from voting | Feb 10 05:11 |
DaemonFC | the less turnout, the more elections the Republicans win | Feb 10 05:11 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: Australia has mandatory voting. | Feb 10 05:11 |
DaemonFC | ugggh | Feb 10 05:11 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: Howard filled the press with bullshit | Feb 10 05:11 |
DaemonFC | do you really get the $500 fine if you sit out? | Feb 10 05:11 |
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FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: and in fact, there were several major scandals, including Abu Ghraib, and a local affair called "children overboard". He was *still* re-elected. | Feb 10 05:12 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: it's more like $50. and you only pay it if they can find you. :) | Feb 10 05:12 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, The mandatory vote is a copout, they can rig the election and still blame the people because everyone "voted" | Feb 10 05:12 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: yes, like the USA, it's "election by media". | Feb 10 05:13 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: Murdoch | Feb 10 05:13 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: he "fixed" Australia first | Feb 10 05:13 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: for his friends in high places | Feb 10 05:13 |
DaemonFC | people are stupid, the ONLY issue is "taxes, gays, god, guns, and abortion" | Feb 10 05:13 |
DaemonFC | people are stupid, the ONLY issue is "taxes, gays, god, guns, and abortion" | Feb 10 05:13 |
DaemonFC | oops | Feb 10 05:13 |
DaemonFC | well, that's the only thing people latch onto | Feb 10 05:14 |
FurnaceBoy | you forgot "and the manufactured spectres of terrorism and islam" | Feb 10 05:14 |
DaemonFC | it's really polarizing, they don't stop and think that the candidates are clones | Feb 10 05:14 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: this is true | Feb 10 05:14 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: politics of division | Feb 10 05:14 |
DaemonFC | yeah, it's to keep people divided, fighting among themselves | Feb 10 05:14 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: it's why Palin has been put forward, she polarises just by virtue of her own anti-qualities | Feb 10 05:15 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: and Beck | Feb 10 05:15 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: the alcoholic cretin | Feb 10 05:15 |
DaemonFC | they never notice that no matter WHO is in charge, taxes go up, abortions stay legal, gun control bills get enacted and repealed at about the same rate | Feb 10 05:15 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: all of them.. if they can polarise, they're useful. | Feb 10 05:15 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: wow, you figured out the shell game.. ooh is that a black helicopter I hear? | Feb 10 05:15 |
FurnaceBoy | 29 Irish-born people aged 15 years and over in other OECD countries for every 100 in Ireland <-- imagine that. | Feb 10 05:16 |
DaemonFC | mass exodus? | Feb 10 05:17 |
FurnaceBoy | well, in Ireland, NZ case, it's explained by geography somewhat. | Feb 10 05:17 |
FurnaceBoy | "edge" psychology | Feb 10 05:17 |
FurnaceBoy | the centre has a gravitational pull | Feb 10 05:17 |
FurnaceBoy | not to mention an economic/opportunity pull | Feb 10 05:18 |
DaemonFC | not following you | Feb 10 05:18 |
DaemonFC | neither place is poor | Feb 10 05:18 |
FurnaceBoy | Aust/NZ and Ireland are "edge" communities in their contexts | Feb 10 05:18 |
FurnaceBoy | they are poor in opportunity, even though the standard of living is sufficient | Feb 10 05:18 |
FurnaceBoy | it's a psychological thing | Feb 10 05:19 |
FurnaceBoy | the only reason Australia isn't an African-style basket case is natural resources | Feb 10 05:19 |
FurnaceBoy | and sadly, natural resource-driven economies are just a different kind of basket case | Feb 10 05:20 |
FurnaceBoy | Australia makes a good earning from CHinese exports | Feb 10 05:20 |
FurnaceBoy | which is why the govt there is in thrall to every whim of China | Feb 10 05:21 |
FurnaceBoy | sycophantic | Feb 10 05:21 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, Dependence on non-renewable resources is not healthy for anyone in the long term | Feb 10 05:21 |
DaemonFC | sure they're making money now | Feb 10 05:21 |
DaemonFC | what happens when they reach peak output and their population is still growing? | Feb 10 05:22 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: right, that's what i mean | Feb 10 05:22 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: it's a serious problem. Same with ALberta | Feb 10 05:22 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: except with Alberta, it's harder to hide the mess. major boff-up | Feb 10 05:22 |
DaemonFC | Canada is one of those countries | Feb 10 05:22 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: yes | Feb 10 05:22 |
DaemonFC | cut down old growth forest and pump oil | Feb 10 05:22 |
DaemonFC | yeeehaw | Feb 10 05:22 |
FurnaceBoy | Canada needs to get off that crack | Feb 10 05:22 |
DaemonFC | Why don't you just start exporting Imaginary Property and borrowing money from China to bloat your military and threaten to level any country that fucks you you? | Feb 10 05:23 |
DaemonFC | seems to be working here B-) | Feb 10 05:23 |
DaemonFC | *with you | Feb 10 05:23 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: you'll love this article http://www.panamalaw.org/USA_exit_tax_for_expatriates.html | Feb 10 05:24 |
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FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: that role is taken, China is warming up to take it over. | Feb 10 05:24 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: I expect it will make the US look like a sane, benevolent custodian | Feb 10 05:25 |
DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 10 05:25 |
DaemonFC | watch them invade Taiwan soon | Feb 10 05:25 |
FurnaceBoy | Chinese expansionism is sick | Feb 10 05:25 |
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FurnaceBoy | *all* expansionism is sick. | Feb 10 05:25 |
DaemonFC | yeah, currency manipulation and lots of slave labor | Feb 10 05:26 |
DaemonFC | that's their economy | Feb 10 05:26 |
*FurnaceBoy wonders where rnb is, to challenge these absolutes ;-) | Feb 10 05:26 | |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: washed down with a nice poison cocktail. | Feb 10 05:26 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: China is the epitome of the non-renewable behaviour | Feb 10 05:26 |
DaemonFC | they're making idle threats against us for selling Taiwan some military equipment | Feb 10 05:26 |
DaemonFC | how do you sanction a company that doesn't even do business in your country!? | Feb 10 05:27 |
DaemonFC | I guess you can on paper | Feb 10 05:27 |
FurnaceBoy | have you *read* the USA export embargo list? | Feb 10 05:27 |
FurnaceBoy | it is packed with foreign companies *and* individuals | Feb 10 05:27 |
DaemonFC | it would be a little like suing me in a Canadian court | Feb 10 05:27 |
DaemonFC | I'd send back a letter telling you to go fuck yourself and something about the judge's mother | Feb 10 05:28 |
FurnaceBoy | it's a no-buy list. | Feb 10 05:28 |
FurnaceBoy | pretty hilarious reading. | Feb 10 05:28 |
DaemonFC | I never got the point of suing someone in a foreign court | Feb 10 05:28 |
DaemonFC | it's like those spammers that sued spamhaus in an Illinois court and got a judgement for millions of dollars | Feb 10 05:29 |
DaemonFC | only Spamhaus is in the UK and just refused to pay | Feb 10 05:29 |
DaemonFC | it reminds me of the pirate bay reiterating "Sweden is not a state in the United States" | Feb 10 05:30 |
DaemonFC | I still laugh every time I read that | Feb 10 05:30 |
DaemonFC | but anything that's a thorn in the side of the RIAA/MPAA/Apple/Microsoft all at once is OK in my book :) | Feb 10 05:30 |
DaemonFC | I wish that they live to be 1000 | Feb 10 05:31 |
DaemonFC | and keep the pirate bay going all the while | Feb 10 05:31 |
DaemonFC | I'd run a torrent tracker like theirs myself if I thought I could get away with it | Feb 10 05:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] world's deadliest poison injected as part of most common *elective!* cosmetic surgery procedure http://kenta.blogspot.com/2009/03/botox.html | Feb 10 05:38 | |
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FurnaceBoy | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/02/all_subversive.html | Feb 10 05:38 |
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DaemonFC | "Does the Republican Party count as an organization that "directly ... advocates ... controlling ... the government"? I think it does. I think all political parties count under that definition." | Feb 10 05:42 |
DaemonFC | lmao | Feb 10 05:42 |
DaemonFC | "At $5 a pop, it's much more price conscious entertainment per hour to submit the dozens of organizations that qualify and watch them deal with the results." | Feb 10 05:43 |
DaemonFC | lmfao | Feb 10 05:43 |
FurnaceBoy | nite | Feb 10 05:43 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Bleh, my lips are sealed :X | Feb 10 07:07 | |
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DaemonFC | "I like to say that 10% of the world is saints, 10% are sinners, and 80% are morons that just pick a side and follow just because they observed people doing things that way." -me | Feb 10 07:42 |
DaemonFC | herd mentality is dangerous | Feb 10 07:45 |
DaemonFC | there's a reason that this year's budget proposal takes a weed whacker to programs that had been getting their budget for years after their usefulness was gone | Feb 10 07:46 |
DaemonFC | nobody countermands an order and all kind of hell breaks loose | Feb 10 07:47 |
DaemonFC | "This page intentionally left blank." | Feb 10 07:48 |
DaemonFC | Eruaran, Why would they leave a blank page intentionally? | Feb 10 07:48 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] "when Linux nerd meets windows herd" http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2010/02/when-linux-nerds-choose-mates-from.html #hilarious #fun | Feb 10 08:52 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Blog of Helios: When Linux Nerds Choose Mates from the Windows Herd. .::. Size~: 112.24 KB | Feb 10 08:52 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Experience of Ordering #GNU #Linux at #Dell and How It Can Improve http://ur1.ca/lypu http://ur1.ca/lypv | Feb 10 08:53 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Server Distribution #CloudLinux http://www.thewhir.com/web-hosting-news/020810_Inside_CloudLinuxs_New_Linux_Based_Cloud_OS | Feb 10 08:55 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Inside CloudLinux's New Linux-Based Cloud OS - Web Hosting Industry News | Daily Web Hosting News and Web Host Interviews" .::. Size~: 41.26 KB | Feb 10 08:55 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Service Around #Ksplice in #Linux #Kernel Space http://ur1.ca/lyq1 http://ur1.ca/lyq2 | Feb 10 08:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] “Amnesia: The Dark Descent” (Game) is Coming to #GNU #Linux http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/14762 | Feb 10 08:59 | |
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DaemonFC | MS Was threatening that they had patents on what Ksplice does | Feb 10 08:59 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian #GNU #Linux 6.0 Needs More Time to Develop http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Debian-6-0-Squeeze-behind-schedule-925778.html | Feb 10 09:15 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Best" #Linux Distributions, #Kolibri Fits on Floppy Disk http://ur1.ca/lyrg http://ur1.ca/lyrh | Feb 10 09:16 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Reviews of #LinuxMint 8 #KDE http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10015054o-2000498448b,00.htm | Feb 10 09:17 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Pandora to be Released ( #Linux on Small Console), #Nook (Linux-based) Updated http://ur1.ca/lyrm http://ur1.ca/lyrn | Feb 10 09:19 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] With #Android , Probably First Time There is More Than One #Linux http://ur1.ca/lyro http://ur1.ca/lyrp | Feb 10 09:21 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Archos Makes Its #Linux Distribution Public http://ur1.ca/lula http://ur1.ca/lyrt http://ur1.ca/lyru | Feb 10 09:22 | |
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phIRCe-BNc | Title: Archos posts 'full' Linux distro for Android tablet • Register Hardware .::. Size~: 16.14 KB | Feb 10 09:22 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Leads the Way in Many Areas Already http://www.itpro.co.uk/620266/top-10-areas-where-open-source-leads-the-way | Feb 10 09:23 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Review of #Jolicloud ( #GNU / #Linux ) http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/jolicloud.html | Feb 10 09:24 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RT: @sup3rkiddo: RT @24camp : Check out the logos for #24camp and comment on them - http://bit.ly/dpBOiD | Feb 10 09:27 | |
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DaemonFC | http://mjg59.livejournal.com/118098.html | Feb 10 09:30 |
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DaemonFC | The only thing that can be guaranteed to work is "don't trust the BIOS and verify that it's not lying to you" | Feb 10 09:35 |
DaemonFC | 28 year old legacy BIOS crap strikes again! | Feb 10 09:36 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org 3.2.0 is Officially Released http://ur1.ca/lysn http://ur1.ca/lyso | Feb 10 09:38 | |
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phIRCe-BNc | Title: Has the Irresistible Rise of OpenOffice.org Begun? - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 85.4 KB | Feb 10 09:38 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Milestone for #Clang http://blog.llvm.org/2010/02/clang-successfully-self-hosts.html | Feb 10 09:40 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ogg Support 'Injected' Into More #Windows Machines http://ur1.ca/llts #silverlie #lockin #msie #dbd | Feb 10 09:41 | |
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DaemonFC | http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth_at_Linuxcon | Feb 10 09:42 |
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DaemonFC | Shuttleworth is a misogynist | Feb 10 09:43 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CivilRights and Personal #Security Compromised with #Surveillance http://ur1.ca/lyt9 http://ur1.ca/lyta http://ur1.ca/lytb | Feb 10 09:43 | |
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DaemonFC | http://mjg59.livejournal.com/114437.html | Feb 10 09:44 |
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DaemonFC | rofl | Feb 10 09:44 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Had enough of being ill now. Feels like I have been laid up forever. Doc says he doesn't want to see me unless still ill on monday #fb | Feb 10 09:44 | |
DaemonFC | http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/defective.html | Feb 10 09:44 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, That's a knee slapper, yes? | Feb 10 09:45 |
schestowitz | No | Feb 10 09:47 |
schestowitz | MarkS seems just apathetic | Feb 10 09:47 |
schestowitz | He is being picked on, IMHO | Feb 10 09:47 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, I meant the spam relay that FSF opened up | Feb 10 09:47 |
DaemonFC | oh, well, he's still being insensitive if not an outright prick | Feb 10 09:48 |
DaemonFC | Would YOU think that saying basically that women just don't get it is a good thing to say? | Feb 10 09:49 |
DaemonFC | it sounds bad and there's just no other way you can take what he said than to take it as an insult directed at women | Feb 10 09:49 |
DaemonFC | If he said "those black people just don't get what Linux is all about" | Feb 10 09:50 |
DaemonFC | people would be out for his head | Feb 10 09:50 |
schestowitz | There is a troll on OOo and Ubuntu lists | Feb 10 09:53 |
schestowitz | NoOP | Feb 10 09:53 |
schestowitz | He didn't say "those women just don't get what Linux is all about" | Feb 10 09:54 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Even #Windows Fans Turn Their Backs on #Vista7 #Hype http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/10/vista-7-give-up-on-hype/ #battery #pr #fail | Feb 10 10:06 | |
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DaemonFC | well, there's a pile of snow as tall as I am out there now | Feb 10 10:13 |
DaemonFC | I'm going out every 4-5 hours and shoveling my driveway :P | Feb 10 10:14 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Huffington Post. Is Israel becoming unhinged? A Loose Cannon in a Volatile Region. http://is.gd/84wfm #occupation #palestine | Feb 10 10:17 | |
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DaemonFC | http://mjg59.livejournal.com/112990.html | Feb 10 10:31 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: mjg59: Chrome OS .::. Size~: 71.66 KB | Feb 10 10:31 |
DaemonFC | I like him | Feb 10 10:31 |
DaemonFC | "The best example of a Linux vendor working with OEMs is probably Canonical, and their enthusiasm for merging hardware support code in their OEM-specific distributions has led to things like touchpad gesture support based on using a known security hole or drivers that reimplement one that's already mainline." | Feb 10 10:31 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Harper’s Article on @BillGates Turning Hunger Into Profit http://ur1.ca/lywp #food #cartel #gmo #monsanto #petcharity | Feb 10 10:33 | |
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amarsh04 | inventors programme on ABC-TV (.au) just showed this: http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2811710.htm | Feb 10 10:39 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: New Inventors: Connex .::. Size~: 21.03 KB | Feb 10 10:39 |
amarsh04 | I don't like oem-specific distros, especially if they hide non-free drivers inside | Feb 10 10:40 |
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oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/02/microsoft-wins-windows-xp-wga-lawsuit.ars | Feb 10 10:50 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] I was just refused admission to a website for the first time because I am running adblock plus. I expect this to become more common. | Feb 10 10:52 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is once again using the #BritishLibrary to promote its own agenda and extend its grip over society’s assets http://ur1.ca/lyxy | Feb 10 10:52 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Blocked site was http://is.gd/84CuT | Feb 10 10:57 | |
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amarsh04 | http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/communications/soa/Roadshow-Films-gave-500k-to-political-parties/0,130061791,339300940,00.htm | Feb 10 11:02 |
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pawel_121 | another .net infected app: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Pinta-Paint-NET-clone-for-Linux-and-Mac-OS-X-925993.html | Feb 10 11:14 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Pinta: Paint.NET clone for Linux and Mac OS X - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 32.42 KB | Feb 10 11:14 |
pawel_121 | idiots even released this under MIT X11 license | Feb 10 11:16 |
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Eruaran | These people don't contribute anything useful | Feb 10 11:20 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Hmm it seems cpalead are survey spammers. | Feb 10 11:22 | |
schestowitz | Eruaran: it's from a Novell employee | Feb 10 11:25 |
schestowitz | Pinta I mean | Feb 10 11:25 |
Eruaran | No surprise there | Feb 10 11:31 |
Eruaran | Its bad enough that we have parents regularly coming into the store to buy Microsoft software because the school forces them to purchase it | Feb 10 11:36 |
Eruaran | Students at a local school who already have notebooks with XP Home on them cannot connect to the schools domain, and the school requires them to use Windows... so its XP Pro or Win7 Pro | Feb 10 11:38 |
Eruaran | And yes, they require them to use Windows | Feb 10 11:38 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft continues to ruin companies that it is getting in contact with http://ur1.ca/lz1z #mono #ubuntu #canonical #novell | Feb 10 11:38 | |
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Eruaran | How much shall we bet that Pinta ends up in Ubuntu | Feb 10 11:40 |
Eruaran | Forgive my cynicism, but it comes from many years of bitter experience. | Feb 10 11:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Time for more toast. All I've eaten for 3 days is toast and apples. | Feb 10 11:56 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #StarWars as told by a new generation http://ur1.ca/lz2v !miotd | Feb 10 11:57 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Lack of Health Care Kills Way More People than Al-Qaeda http://ur1.ca/lz30 | Feb 10 11:57 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] You've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? http://ur1.ca/lz37 !miotd | Feb 10 12:02 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] the evolution of apple ads http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/09/the-evolution-of-apple-ads/ | Feb 10 12:07 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] If there were companies in the 70's as restrictive and unfree as Apple is today, Jobs and Wozniak would have never gotten far with the Mac. | Feb 10 12:12 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Temporal paradox #fail http://ur1.ca/lz4p | Feb 10 12:12 | |
schestowitz | Canonical seems a little 'poisoned' | Feb 10 12:16 |
schestowitz | @glynmoody Spencer is the guy who proposed removing the GIMP in July and announced the Yahoo! deal | Feb 10 12:16 |
schestowitz | He comes from Microsoft | Feb 10 12:16 |
schestowitz | Now managing at Canonical. | Feb 10 12:16 |
schestowitz | Eruaran: yes | Feb 10 12:17 |
schestowitz | I'm doing a post about it at the moment | Feb 10 12:17 |
schestowitz | Microsoft in eductrination | Feb 10 12:17 |
Eruaran | I am surprised, frustrated and saddened that after decades of watching Microsoft's established pattern of predictably mendacious behaviour, people and companies apparently still haven't learned a thing. I would have thought it prudent for anyone directing a company to be suspicious of Microsoft at best, but as usual it plays out like a Monty Python sketch. | Feb 10 12:22 |
oiaohm | Eruaran: Linux always recovers. | Feb 10 12:35 |
oiaohm | Remember MS describing Linux has a multi headed beast. | Feb 10 12:36 |
oiaohm | If they kill Ubuntu it will not be the first distribution they have killed. | Feb 10 12:36 |
oiaohm | Linux just grows a new head and keeps on going. | Feb 10 12:37 |
Eruaran | oiaohm: true, I take heart from this | Feb 10 12:37 |
oiaohm | Really neither is learning. | Feb 10 12:38 |
oiaohm | MS is not learning that Linux is resistant to killing. | Feb 10 12:39 |
oiaohm | One thing good has come out of these mono application push against open source world. More open source projects are looking at there interfaces and improving them. | Feb 10 12:40 |
oiaohm | The nature of linux the more it attacked the strong it becomes. | Feb 10 12:41 |
oiaohm | Other thing Eruaran lot of the large Unix world in the suppers have already tried all the stunts MS is trying now against Linux. | Feb 10 12:44 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] http://bit.ly/b0QnsR Toast + apple + sugar + water + cinnamon = yum! | Feb 10 12:44 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Rap about Super Mario Land http://ur1.ca/lz7b | Feb 10 12:52 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Daniel Diaz speed paints Ironman http://ur1.ca/lz80 !miotd | Feb 10 12:52 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Georgia , #Kentucky , #Colorado , and #Sunderland Receive the #Microsoft #EDGI Treatment http://ur1.ca/lz89 | Feb 10 12:54 | |
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schestowitz | Eruaran: Microsoft us running out of options | Feb 10 12:57 |
schestowitz | Let it waste the money it has left | Feb 10 12:57 |
schestowitz | it can't fund development by giving away so many free copies of cash cows like Windows and Office | Feb 10 12:57 |
schestowitz | Microsoft's CFO quit | Feb 10 12:57 |
schestowitz | They don't do well financially | Feb 10 12:57 |
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oiaohm | The battle has not even really started. | Feb 10 12:57 |
Eruaran | Sometimes a bunch of things happen at once and I tend to get a bit gloomy. | Feb 10 12:58 |
schestowitz | Let the WIndows AstrTurfers brag about their 99.5% market share in "computers" | Feb 10 12:58 |
oiaohm | schestowitz: the game can get way worse when samba can do active directory with group policies someone will get the idea of having NAS auto deploy items like OpenOffice KDE and Firefox on windows. | Feb 10 12:58 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, they have to let them do it | Feb 10 12:58 |
oiaohm | Even better auto updating. | Feb 10 12:58 |
schestowitz | EU Commission orders | Feb 10 12:58 |
schestowitz | Or huge fines | Feb 10 12:59 |
oiaohm | Key battles for war were won in the last 10 years. | Feb 10 12:59 |
oiaohm | Ones if we had lost Open Source would not stand a chance any time soon. | Feb 10 12:59 |
schestowitz | It's snowing heavily all of a sudden, since 2 minutes ago..... | Feb 10 13:00 |
schestowitz | I heard good news from a friend in Bay Area | Feb 10 13:00 |
kecskebak | Global warming ;) | Feb 10 13:00 |
schestowitz | SF schools move to FOSS, some of them | Feb 10 13:01 |
schestowitz | kecskebak: yes, statistically | Feb 10 13:01 |
oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/02/two-billion-transistor-beasts-power7-and-niagara-3.ars Nice scary new sparc chips. | Feb 10 13:01 |
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schestowitz | 2009 was the hottest ever recorded, IIRC | Feb 10 13:01 |
kecskebak | Yes, course it was. | Feb 10 13:01 |
kecskebak | Sorry, I should be serious. | Feb 10 13:01 |
schestowitz | I like it when people use the snow example | Feb 10 13:01 |
oiaohm | Ie 16 cores each handling 8 threads each that is one scary chip. | Feb 10 13:02 |
schestowitz | It reminds me of people who say, "smoking ain't bad cause me and my pa smoked for 50 years and got no illness from it" | Feb 10 13:02 |
kecskebak | Well, my Dad said to me on the phone this week "Global warming - would be a bloody good idea". | Feb 10 13:02 |
schestowitz | Dimming... global. | Feb 10 13:02 |
schestowitz | It's not the only issue | Feb 10 13:02 |
schestowitz | Peak oil is bigger | Feb 10 13:02 |
schestowitz | Lack of extraction resources | Feb 10 13:02 |
kecskebak | The fact there won't be any fish left soon | Feb 10 13:02 |
oiaohm | Depends where. kecskebak | Feb 10 13:03 |
schestowitz | Pollutants like cyanide in the water that reaches embryos... | Feb 10 13:03 |
schestowitz | Planet Earth on overdrive | Feb 10 13:03 |
schestowitz | kecskebak: yes, decades | Feb 10 13:03 |
oiaohm | We are having to use patrol boats to keep humans out of our fish zones. | Feb 10 13:03 |
schestowitz | I still eat a lot of fish while it lasts | Feb 10 13:03 |
kecskebak | I'm a vegetarian - use less carbon that way | Feb 10 13:03 |
kecskebak | You see, I'm not all bad :Á) | Feb 10 13:04 |
schestowitz | My uncle (I have just one) said this 10 years ago... that they would run out | Feb 10 13:04 |
schestowitz | He's a judge | Feb 10 13:04 |
oiaohm | If I could live as a vegetrain I would be a budhist monk. kecskebak | Feb 10 13:04 |
kecskebak | I've been a vegetarian since Jan 1991 | Feb 10 13:04 |
MinceR | all aboard the vege-train? | Feb 10 13:04 |
schestowitz | It doesn't work well for weight lifers.. | Feb 10 13:05 |
kecskebak | Well, don't lift weights | Feb 10 13:05 |
oiaohm | kecskebak: Problem with me as vegetrain I eat until I vomit and I am still hungry. | Feb 10 13:05 |
schestowitz | But the anti-radicals (Was that the name?) make life longer | Feb 10 13:05 |
oiaohm | Just say I am not vegetarian compadible. kecskebak | Feb 10 13:05 |
kecskebak | I don't drive either | Feb 10 13:06 |
schestowitz | Maybe you lack protein | Feb 10 13:06 |
schestowitz | You get cravings for fish/meat? | Feb 10 13:06 |
kecskebak | I don't like pollution, but I'm not convinced on global warming | Feb 10 13:06 |
kecskebak | No, never | Feb 10 13:06 |
kecskebak | I don't miss anything | Feb 10 13:06 |
schestowitz | Some people need to drive | Feb 10 13:06 |
oiaohm | My body cannot make particular proteins. | Feb 10 13:06 |
schestowitz | Trucks. | Feb 10 13:06 |
kecskebak | I know, but in Hungary I've managed on public transport and lifts | Feb 10 13:06 |
schestowitz | To stock food we need transportation | Feb 10 13:06 |
oiaohm | Some of us can be vegetarian some of use cannot be. | Feb 10 13:07 |
schestowitz | Also to plow efficiently | Feb 10 13:07 |
kecskebak | Of course we do, but if I have a bus stop outside my door do I need to drive? | Feb 10 13:07 |
schestowitz | Garages | Feb 10 13:07 |
schestowitz | Same with cell phones | Feb 10 13:07 |
kecskebak | I'm not saying it's right for everyone, particularly in rural areas | Feb 10 13:07 |
schestowitz | It's not about being cheap, it's just an extra burden sometimes | Feb 10 13:07 |
schestowitz | Some people need cell phones | Feb 10 13:07 |
schestowitz | Plumbers MUST have them | Feb 10 13:07 |
kecskebak | But it's funny that I'm not convinced on global warming and I've probably got a lower carbon footprint than a lot of the people who are completely convinced of it | Feb 10 13:08 |
schestowitz | No | Feb 10 13:08 |
oiaohm | If I did want to cut down on foot print. I could concider insects but I cannot bring myself to eat them. | Feb 10 13:08 |
schestowitz | Africa | Feb 10 13:08 |
schestowitz | There you have like 1/16 the energy consumption of an avg USian | Feb 10 13:08 |
schestowitz | Per capita I man | Feb 10 13:08 |
schestowitz | *mean | Feb 10 13:08 |
kecskebak | Notice how interested America is in Africa at the moment? | Feb 10 13:09 |
oiaohm | Australia has major transport problems. | Feb 10 13:09 |
oiaohm | We are too spreed out. | Feb 10 13:09 |
schestowitz | kecskebak: otherwise China takes over it | Feb 10 13:09 |
kecskebak | Exactly | Feb 10 13:09 |
schestowitz | France was too | Feb 10 13:09 |
schestowitz | Untapped resource of many materials with..... CHEAP labour to extract them | Feb 10 13:10 |
schestowitz | World Bank helps Gates colonise Africa now | Feb 10 13:10 |
schestowitz | ANd Monsanto | Feb 10 13:10 |
kecskebak | It's interesting that the areas with the most natural resources are always at war all the time. | Feb 10 13:10 |
oiaohm | If carbon research speeds up. | Feb 10 13:10 |
schestowitz | Green Revolution in Africa is also backed by Rockefellers | Feb 10 13:10 |
oiaohm | Lot of the gobal natual resources would not be required. | Feb 10 13:10 |
oiaohm | No its not strange. | Feb 10 13:11 |
oiaohm | Big advantage of natural resources is money. | Feb 10 13:11 |
oiaohm | With money you can buy weapons so you can have bigger and bigger wars. | Feb 10 13:11 |
Eruaran | http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/335623/curtin_university_touches_surface_education_medicine/ | Feb 10 13:11 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Curtin University touches Surface for education, medicine - microsoft surface, Curtin University of Technology - Computerworld .::. Size~: 64.1 KB | Feb 10 13:11 |
oiaohm | Human greed at work. | Feb 10 13:11 |
kecskebak | Good posts about the BBC on BN recently. I love the term MSBBC. | Feb 10 13:11 |
Eruaran | University of fail... | Feb 10 13:11 |
kecskebak | I bet they'll try and stitch you up sooner or later. | Feb 10 13:11 |
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Eruaran | " In order to develop custom applications, the university will need to purchase at least one Surface SDK, at a cost of $24,500 bundled with a Surface device." | Feb 10 13:12 |
Eruaran | You really have to wonder about some Universities... | Feb 10 13:12 |
oiaohm | Really | Feb 10 13:13 |
oiaohm | Eruaran: What price do you think Uni's have to pay for Surface | Feb 10 13:13 |
Eruaran | oiaohm: I don't know | Feb 10 13:14 |
oiaohm | About 5000 | Feb 10 13:14 |
oiaohm | Cost. Eruaran | Feb 10 13:14 |
Eruaran | I didn't expect they'd pay the full $21000 price tag | Feb 10 13:14 |
kecskebak | Talking of huge sums of money, I found this interesting: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17426 | Feb 10 13:14 |
oiaohm | MS is desperate to get apps. | Feb 10 13:14 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: It Is Now Mathematically Impossible To Pay Off The U.S. National Debt .::. Size~: 57.35 KB | Feb 10 13:14 |
oiaohm | Its not exactly Mathematically impossible kecskebak | Feb 10 13:15 |
oiaohm | What currency is the USA debt writen in kecskebak | Feb 10 13:16 |
kecskebak | But to print more, you have to borrow money from the Fed | Feb 10 13:16 |
schestowitz | Eruaran: that Univrsity thing is an IDG advert | Feb 10 13:16 |
kecskebak | To print dollars, you have to borrow more dollars. | Feb 10 13:16 |
kecskebak | That's why it's impossible. | Feb 10 13:17 |
schestowitz | Eruaran: see how it's written. It's like those case studies Microsoft does by having the PR agency contact $journalist | Feb 10 13:17 |
Eruaran | schestowitz: yes | Feb 10 13:17 |
kecskebak | UK journalists call that churnalism | Feb 10 13:17 |
oiaohm | What is the solution kecskebak many contries have solved it. | Feb 10 13:17 |
schestowitz | kecskebak: BBC already responded to me many tims | Feb 10 13:17 |
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schestowitz | Guardian too | Feb 10 13:18 |
schestowitz | Their editor | Feb 10 13:18 |
kecskebak | I bet they were delighted | Feb 10 13:18 |
oiaohm | Simple 100 percent devalue the currenry in trouble and create a new one problem solved. kecskebak | Feb 10 13:18 |
kecskebak | Yes, but sadly I can't see that happening | Feb 10 13:18 |
kecskebak | The US national debt should be written off | Feb 10 13:19 |
oiaohm | That is the mathmatical solution to the problem. | Feb 10 13:19 |
kecskebak | As Michael Hudson says, debts that can't be paid, won't be | Feb 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | kecskebak: no, they only annoy me more when they contact me | Feb 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | It's not good for them to try to police coverage | Feb 10 13:19 |
schestowitz | yesterday jono asked for my address to post me a Ubuntu t-shirt | Feb 10 13:20 |
schestowitz | It feels a bit like they try to stop me from criticising the company | Feb 10 13:20 |
schestowitz | Because of the timing | Feb 10 13:20 |
oiaohm | indonesia did another solution. kecskebak | Feb 10 13:20 |
kecskebak | The sewing will be good - he's good at stictching things up | Feb 10 13:20 |
schestowitz | "I want to see free software, delivered via Ubuntu, become the most ubiquitous platform in the world for users and developers, available to all, respecting local languages and culture, and inspiring innovation and sharing." http://blog.joeb454.com/2010/02/an-interview-with-jono/ | Feb 10 13:20 |
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oiaohm | Creative but also effective kecskebak | Feb 10 13:20 |
schestowitz | kecskebak: it can be repaid | Feb 10 13:20 |
kecskebak | I don't think it should be repaid | Feb 10 13:20 |
schestowitz | By the kids and grandkids whose future the current generation mortgages | Feb 10 13:20 |
oiaohm | Assigned a square meter of land the value of there debt they could not repay and handed over a square meter of land for the debt. kecskebak | Feb 10 13:21 |
schestowitz | They will service debt to the IMF/WB | Feb 10 13:21 |
schestowitz | China was smart | Feb 10 13:21 |
schestowitz | It just let the US have as much money as it wanted | Feb 10 13:21 |
oiaohm | There are ways out. | Feb 10 13:21 |
schestowitz | Until it suffocated and choked... not good for us in the West, but China was smart | Feb 10 13:21 |
schestowitz | The US exhausted the USSR | Feb 10 13:21 |
kecskebak | The way out is to write off the debt in my view | Feb 10 13:21 |
oiaohm | China has production. | Feb 10 13:21 |
kecskebak | I don't think the debts should be repaid | Feb 10 13:21 |
schestowitz | kecskebak: it must be repaid | Feb 10 13:22 |
oiaohm | One day when china closes it boarders again countries the like USA will go to hell. | Feb 10 13:22 |
kecskebak | Why? | Feb 10 13:22 |
oiaohm | No trade kecskebak | Feb 10 13:22 |
schestowitz | Unless there's something like post-Versay[spelling] treaty | Feb 10 13:22 |
oiaohm | If you cannot stand on your own feet you have to pay your debts. | Feb 10 13:23 |
oiaohm | You think how long USA would last without imports. | Feb 10 13:23 |
schestowitz | kecskebak: the US is in bad rel' with the UN | Feb 10 13:23 |
schestowitz | Bar the likes of Gates | Feb 10 13:23 |
schestowitz | The rich and 'lovely' people who play globalists | Feb 10 13:23 |
schestowitz | The Greek won't offer sympathy to the US | Feb 10 13:23 |
oiaohm | What does the USA really export to service there debt. | Feb 10 13:24 |
schestowitz | Nor Japan, Korea..... | Feb 10 13:24 |
schestowitz | The US daemonises China a lot | Feb 10 13:24 |
schestowitz | Caricatures | Feb 10 13:24 |
schestowitz | I'm trying to be immune to this hypocritical portrayal | Feb 10 13:24 |
schestowitz | Last night I watched the second part of that BBC series from Alek | Feb 10 13:24 |
schestowitz | She's playing along with the "anti-China" story | Feb 10 13:24 |
schestowitz | Shame on her and the BBC | Feb 10 13:25 |
schestowitz | I like how Pilger described the genesis of the BBC | Feb 10 13:25 |
schestowitz | It's still a nationalist tool of control, like CNN (or CNN on steroids -- FOX) | Feb 10 13:25 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @sunil_abraham: RT: @PlaneMad THANK YOU FOR STEALING MY WORK, Times Of India http://bit.ly/aAkSuj #toisteals | Feb 10 13:25 | |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: "IP" | Feb 10 13:25 |
oiaohm | China law has no respect for IP. | Feb 10 13:26 |
schestowitz | China has now more patents than the US | Feb 10 13:26 |
oiaohm | Clone products are normal in china. | Feb 10 13:26 |
schestowitz | They beat them in their own games and establish their own standards too | Feb 10 13:26 |
oiaohm | Only thing illegal in china is selling a clone as real. | Feb 10 13:26 |
schestowitz | China is at least sticking to ZRAND, which makes them more reasonable then the USPTO+affiliates | Feb 10 13:26 |
schestowitz | ISO in in Basel or Geneva IIRC | Feb 10 13:26 |
oiaohm | If you sell it as clone even if its a perfect clone. it legal. | Feb 10 13:26 |
schestowitz | Same with WIPO, the patent bastards | Feb 10 13:27 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, different economics | Feb 10 13:27 |
schestowitz | Same with copyrights | Feb 10 13:27 |
schestowitz | They still do kind of OK | Feb 10 13:27 |
schestowitz | Stiglitz was asked to write a preface for a 'ripoff' of his book | Feb 10 13:27 |
schestowitz | He says he was happy to | Feb 10 13:28 |
schestowitz | No income, but he can get millions of more readers in CHina | Feb 10 13:28 |
schestowitz | It boils down to economics really | Feb 10 13:28 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] ROFL: http://pratul.in/with_great_power_comes_great_responsibility That made my day :D (via @sup3rkiddo) post it in bash.org guys ;-) | Feb 10 13:32 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: With great power, comes great responsibility | pratul dot in .::. Size~: 17.58 KB | Feb 10 13:32 |
kecskebak | Trying to squeeze out more debt service than a country could pay requires an oppressive and extractive fiscal and financial regime, Keynes warned, which in turn would inspire a nationalistic political reaction to break free of creditor-nation demands. This is what happened in the 1920s when Germany’s economy was wrecked by the rigid ideology of the sanctity of debt. | Feb 10 13:32 |
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schestowitz | http://reviewglitz.com/2010/02/can-xfce-desktop-environment-an-alternative-to-gnome-and-kde/ "Another plus: Linux job openings on the Dice.com job website rose by 5.5% during the last half of 2009 (June was the bottom of last year's IT job market) in contrast to Windows listings which dropped by 4% during the same period. The salary findings were tallied by Dice.com based on the responses of 16,908 registered job seekers and site | Feb 10 13:34 |
schestowitz | visitors from Aug. 24 to Nov. 12, 2009." | Feb 10 13:34 |
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schestowitz | Trend is consistent | Feb 10 13:35 |
oiaohm | Humans repeat there mistakes. schestowitz | Feb 10 13:39 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I called the Co-Op suggesting we may have had food poisoning from them. They wrote today saying no other complaints & a £10 gift token :) | Feb 10 13:42 | |
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schestowitz | “First, I don’t think the mono flamewar should be attributed to Ubuntu but to Gnome. AFAIK, the best mono supporter is Miguel De Icaza and not Shuttleworth." http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/09/is-canonical-becoming-the-new-microsoft/comment-page-1/#comment-12314 | Feb 10 13:53 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Open Sourcerer » Is Canonical Becoming The New Microsoft? [Updated] .::. Size~: 140.01 KB | Feb 10 13:53 |
schestowitz | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/02/10/follow-up-post-to-canonical-microsoft/ | Feb 10 13:53 |
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schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1591112/is-unix | Feb 10 14:01 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] for @czajkowski and @izzard New blog post: "Pick me up with Apples & Toast" http://bit.ly/aTFy0S | Feb 10 14:02 | |
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schestowitz | Schneier messed up: | Feb 10 14:04 |
schestowitz | Outguessing the Terrorists | Feb 10 14:04 |
schestowitz | Isn't it a bit embarrassing for an "expert on counter-terrorism" to be quoted as saying this? | Feb 10 14:04 |
schestowitz | Bill Tupman, an expert on counter-terrorism from Exeter University, told BBC News: "The problem is trying to predict the mind of the al-Qaeda planner; there are so many things they might do. | Feb 10 14:04 |
schestowitz | "And it is also necessary to reassure the public that we are trying to outguess the al-Qaeda planner and we are in the process of protecting them from any threat." | Feb 10 14:04 |
schestowitz | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/02/outguessing_the.html | Feb 10 14:04 |
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schestowitz | And here: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/02/all_subversive.html | Feb 10 14:04 |
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schestowitz | "EDITED TO ADD (2/9): I misquoted the statute......." | Feb 10 14:04 |
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schestowitz | Meh. http://ask.slashdot.org/story/10/02/10/0056257/Is-Internet-Explorer-67-Support-Required-Now | Feb 10 14:08 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Slashdot Ask Slashdot Story | Is Internet Explorer 6/7 Support Required Now? .::. Size~: 152.91 KB | Feb 10 14:08 |
schestowitz | http://news.techworld.com/operating-systems/3212357/microsoft-off-the-hook-for-sneaky-windows-drm/?olo=rss | Feb 10 14:12 |
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schestowitz | "@josephtartakoff Bing's market share is around 3%. US != world" | Feb 10 14:14 |
schestowitz | Microsoft boosters... I'm tired of them.. http://twitter.com/josephtartakoff/statuses/8879428456 | Feb 10 14:14 |
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schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/paul-cautions-neocon-influence-infiltrating-tea-parties/ | Feb 10 14:14 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Ron Paul: Neocon influence is infiltrating tea parties | Raw Story .::. Size~: 46.24 KB | Feb 10 14:14 |
schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/colbert-palin-retard/ | Feb 10 14:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Colbert: Sarah Palin is a f**king retard | Raw Story .::. Size~: 35.74 KB | Feb 10 14:16 |
schestowitz | Obama would destroy Palin in hypothetical race, poll finds http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/US100201/Obama/Complete%20February%208,%202010%20USA%20Poll%20Release%20and%20Tables.pdf | Feb 10 14:16 |
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schestowitz | "When a cigarette burns, nicotine is released in the form of a vapor that collects and condenses on indoor surfaces such as walls, carpeting, drapes and furniture, where it can linger for months, said the study, which was published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS)." http://rawstory.com/2010/02/study-hand-smoke-bad/ | Feb 10 14:21 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Study: Third hand smoke also bad for you | Raw Story .::. Size~: 38.37 KB | Feb 10 14:21 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The first paragraphs here sheds light on why "unemployment" numbers are 'faked' (definition warped): http://ur1.ca/lzez | Feb 10 14:23 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/05/asay_canonical/ "Before Alfreso, Asay had been an open-source evangelist at Novell and was general manager for embedded Linux start-up Lineo. " | Feb 10 14:24 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Canonical scoops Alfresco man for operations • The Register .::. Size~: 22.48 KB | Feb 10 14:24 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Not to be outdone by @theopenlearning , "Apple Is The New Microsoft" http://bit.ly/aeEJrB - not Canonical :p | Feb 10 14:27 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #thoughtful RD: @glynmoody: Internet Software Patents - http://bit.ly/brPiIg not new, but with fascinating historical anecdotes #swpats | Feb 10 14:32 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] OOo is becoming almost as popular as #Firefox in #Germany http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/09/openoffice_is_big_in_germany/ | Feb 10 14:32 | |
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schestowitz | zdnet down? | Feb 10 14:37 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/10/wage_increase/ | Feb 10 14:40 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Tech salaries up slightly • The Register .::. Size~: 20.08 KB | Feb 10 14:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Has bough #TheLostSymbol by #DanBrown just yesterday evening and has already reached chapter 14 in it. So far so good. :-) | Feb 10 14:41 | |
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schestowitz | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/02/08/loran.navigation.shutdown/index.html | Feb 10 14:49 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] அன்பிற்கும் உண்டோ அடைக்குந்தாள் ? :-) | Feb 10 15:02 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] UK Patent Office rejects Patent4U soft patent: "This contribution falls solely within the field of computer programming" http://i5.be/asw | Feb 10 15:04 | |
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schestowitz | More of the suckup from the pseudo-sourcers.... http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=5796 | Feb 10 15:07 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 10 15:10 |
schestowitz | Toyota's top U.S. executive Jim Lentz has toured the mainstream media's talk show circuit this week to attempt damage control as the the automaker's crisis over sticky accelerators and failing brakes worsens. | Feb 10 15:10 |
schestowitz | Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=56718#ixzz0f97WNJNw | Feb 10 15:10 |
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schestowitz | "http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/07/ship-disguised-as-is.html | Feb 10 15:12 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Some Norwegians seem angry at Google....... http://ur1.ca/lzjk | Feb 10 15:15 | |
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schestowitz | http://clearclimatecode.org/ | Feb 10 15:17 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Reminder fox is telling me to wash my clothes on Feb14 (sunday) :( . I shouldn't have enabled weekly reminders :| | Feb 10 15:22 | |
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schestowitz | is someone here using bsd? http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20100208 | Feb 10 15:27 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Sarkozy nows installing a trojan spyware on your PC with the LOPSSI law now being voted in France: http://i5.be/asx | Feb 10 15:27 | |
schestowitz | "Apple is somewhat shielded from the open-source onslaught because it's perceived as ubercool. Kids like that." http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10448028-16.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheOpenRoad | Feb 10 15:31 |
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schestowitz | Mac Asay calls himself a "kid"? | Feb 10 15:31 |
schestowitz | He only talks about Microsoft and Apple | Feb 10 15:32 |
schestowitz | I can't say I'm surprised though | Feb 10 15:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Stop Uganda's gay death law - petition: http://www.avaaz.org/en/uganda_rights/98.php?CLICK_TF_TRACK #uganda #humanrights | Feb 10 15:35 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.internetnews.com/software/article.php/3863916 Microsoft's Reliability Update Triggers Crashes | Feb 10 15:36 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft's Reliability Update Triggers Crashes - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 141.03 KB | Feb 10 15:36 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Who knew? Watching #TV ads linked to #obesity. Duh. http://www.parentcentral.ca/parent/familyhealth/article/763240 | Feb 10 15:42 | |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ^^ | Feb 10 15:43 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ryanmcgreal dropping #microsoft also cuts hardware requirements (server & especially desktop:) check this: http://bit.ly/8umyz8 #linux #nz | Feb 10 15:45 | |
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schestowitz | Hehe | Feb 10 15:45 |
schestowitz | Cause and effects reversed | Feb 10 15:45 |
schestowitz | obesity->tv | Feb 10 15:46 |
schestowitz | Not tv->obesity | Feb 10 15:46 |
schestowitz | Or both | Feb 10 15:46 |
schestowitz | Poor students | Feb 10 15:46 |
schestowitz | How will they be able to work in an office? | Feb 10 15:46 |
schestowitz | No Microsoft Office mental map of the menus???? | Feb 10 15:47 |
FurnaceBoy | that article has a little more detail than the other one | Feb 10 15:47 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: @josephtartakoff Bing's market share is around 3%. US != world | Feb 10 15:49 |
schestowitz | You can imagine what this was a response _to_ | Feb 10 15:49 |
jweyrich | ola personas. | Feb 10 15:49 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: maybe Bong market share will actually match his numbers when Ubuntu 10.04 comes out :-) | Feb 10 15:50 |
schestowitz | jweyrich: ahoy | Feb 10 15:50 |
schestowitz | Bill Snyder is still showing he's serving the monopolist/criminal...... http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/blogs/bizfeed/188312/microsoft_could_make_the_ipad_a_great_business_tool.html?tk=rss_news | Feb 10 15:51 |
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schestowitz | At least he stopped attacking FOSS, for now | Feb 10 15:51 |
jweyrich | damn, my arms aren't responding well. LOL. probably too much gym. | Feb 10 15:51 |
schestowitz | He is INVESTOR in MSFT | Feb 10 15:51 |
schestowitz | IDG lets him publish about MSFT nonetheless | Feb 10 15:52 |
jweyrich | investor or associate? | Feb 10 15:52 |
schestowitz | Just speaks volume about jouno' integroty there | Feb 10 15:52 |
schestowitz | Investor | Feb 10 15:52 |
schestowitz | He said so | Feb 10 15:52 |
schestowitz | jweyrich: at least we have arms. Some people haven't | Feb 10 15:53 |
*schestowitz has mental image of a kid who lost all limbs in an air strike and survived | Feb 10 15:53 | |
jweyrich | well, I don't think like that. they don't deserve to be treated as "poor". | Feb 10 15:54 |
schestowitz | It sometimes happens elsewhere | Feb 10 15:55 |
schestowitz | Like war veterans | Feb 10 15:55 |
schestowitz | WHo are not the rich chickenhawks | Feb 10 15:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/188476/microsoft_executive_mike_nash_to_leave_the_company.html?tk=rss_news | Feb 10 15:57 |
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schestowitz | Change is afoot.. | Feb 10 15:57 |
schestowitz | I wonder who's left to run Windows at MSFT | Feb 10 15:57 |
schestowitz | Maybe some dudes with temp. visas | Feb 10 15:57 |
schestowitz | Torrent smears: http://www.pcworld.com/article/188498/twitter_password_resets_linked_to_torrent_sites.html?tk=rss_news | Feb 10 15:58 |
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schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/188514/indias_outsourcing_exports_at_us50_billion.html?tk=rss_news | Feb 10 15:59 |
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jweyrich | linkedin very slow today. | Feb 10 15:59 |
schestowitz | jweyrich: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/09/iranian_net_damaged_before_demos/ | Feb 10 16:01 |
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jweyrich | this morning a TV helicopter fell in Sao Paulo. and another TV helicopter recorded. weirdo. | Feb 10 16:01 |
schestowitz | According to < http://www.pcworld.com/article/188524/Apple_Will_Sell_Eight_Million_iPads_by_2012.html?tk=rss_news > , there are about 8 million Apple fans with more money than sense and taste | Feb 10 16:02 |
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schestowitz | jweyrich: do they know the cause yet? | Feb 10 16:03 |
jweyrich | looking for more infos. | Feb 10 16:03 |
schestowitz | Also, could the crew eject? | Feb 10 16:03 |
jweyrich | http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/SaoPaulo/0,,MUL1484552-5605,00.html | Feb 10 16:03 |
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jweyrich | no. the pilot died, and the camera man is in very bad @ hospital | Feb 10 16:04 |
schestowitz | jweyrich: no blood on the seats | Feb 10 16:04 |
jweyrich | the text says it was trying to land | Feb 10 16:04 |
schestowitz | jweyrich: how many people died driving in Brazil today? | Feb 10 16:04 |
jweyrich | not sure. | Feb 10 16:05 |
schestowitz | 100? | Feb 10 16:05 |
jweyrich | or more. | Feb 10 16:05 |
schestowitz | And cancer..? | Feb 10 16:05 |
jweyrich | but the interesting part is that this helicopter is from a very large TV company. and the one which recorded the fall is from its highest competitor. | Feb 10 16:05 |
schestowitz | People care a lot more when people die falling from the sky, unless they dive from a high building | Feb 10 16:06 |
schestowitz | Globo? | Feb 10 16:06 |
jweyrich | I share this pov. | Feb 10 16:06 |
jweyrich | that's why I hate TV. | Feb 10 16:06 |
jweyrich | yeah. Globo vs Record | Feb 10 16:06 |
schestowitz | It's probability after all | Feb 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | You go on a plane, you might fall | Feb 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | Deal with it | Feb 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | Then you can improve statistics | Feb 10 16:07 |
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schestowitz | Study from the black box and move on | Feb 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | Same with the TERROR~1 | Feb 10 16:07 |
schestowitz | They gave them exactly what they want !! | Feb 10 16:07 |
jweyrich | hrm. they say the cause was a breakdown in the tail engine. | Feb 10 16:08 |
schestowitz | They give them coverage when there's some fire on board started by a kid with chemical in his undies | Feb 10 16:08 |
schestowitz | Had they kept it quiet, it would be better | Feb 10 16:08 |
schestowitz | 60 times more people dies in Haiti than in 9/11 | Feb 10 16:08 |
schestowitz | *died | Feb 10 16:08 |
schestowitz | Maybe we should study biology better, not strip search-like body scanners | Feb 10 16:09 |
schestowitz | jweyrich: so one casualty in that crash.. | Feb 10 16:10 |
schestowitz | Like some guy on a motorcycle slipping | Feb 10 16:10 |
schestowitz | Some firm called "Devil Mountain" seems like a Microsoft apologist | Feb 10 16:12 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Alvaro asks 9 questions to the Commission about ACTA, including 3 strikes and transparency http://i5.be/asy | Feb 10 16:17 | |
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FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: bom dia | Feb 10 16:22 |
jweyrich | FurnaceBoy: bom dia! :) | Feb 10 16:22 |
jweyrich | aliás, é boa tarde aqui. | Feb 10 16:22 |
jweyrich | have a meeting with wlima now. afk. | Feb 10 16:23 |
FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: ciao | Feb 10 16:30 |
FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: hm, i had a question for him but seem to have forgotten :| | Feb 10 16:31 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Hungarian MEP pushing for the Community Patent only in English, so that it gets ignored by the non-english EU citizens: http://i5.be/asA | Feb 10 16:31 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/personal-finance/lifestyle-money/personal-technology/blackberry-spyware-source-code-released/ | Feb 10 16:41 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] FSFE wants to easily challenge patents in order to raise patent quality around the world: http://i5.be/asC | Feb 10 16:47 | |
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schestowitz | RMS: "Medical evidence for danger from cell phone microwaves is quite strong, if you throw out the industry-funded studies." http://www.stallman.org/archives/2009-nov-feb.html#8%20February%202010%20%28Your%20phone%20may%20be%20killing%20you%29 | Feb 10 16:51 |
schestowitz | Ah... about time. | Feb 10 16:51 |
schestowitz | Industry funded, of course | Feb 10 16:51 |
schestowitz | Like climate change denial | Feb 10 16:51 |
schestowitz | Ummmmmm http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Vulnerability-in-Samba-provides-access-to-files-924425.html | Feb 10 16:51 |
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schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-02-09-023-35-OS-BZ-0000 | Feb 10 16:55 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Tutorial for people who think the GIMP is 'confusing' http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-websites-learn-gimp-photo-editor-online/ | Feb 10 17:04 | |
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jweyrich | FurnaceBoy: msg me and I'll fwd to him. | Feb 10 17:13 |
schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/02/paul_allens_brangelina_moment.html | Feb 10 17:19 |
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schestowitz | KDE Software Compilation 4.4.0 Introduces Netbook Interface, Window Tabbing and Authentication Framework < http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.4/ > what's with the insistence on name change to SC? | Feb 10 17:19 |
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schestowitz | Can you guys recommend a good programme on YouTube? | Feb 10 17:26 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I don't watch much video. try this for light entertainment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HcKrd3K8_A | Feb 10 17:51 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | Feb 10 17:54 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0m3s9h_z0A | Feb 10 17:54 |
schestowitz | Intelligent "design" in the physics section | Feb 10 17:55 |
FurnaceBoy | :( | Feb 10 17:55 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: she's a mediocre n00b :-) | Feb 10 17:56 |
FurnaceBoy | cute tho! | Feb 10 17:56 |
*FurnaceBoy hasn't had breakfast or coffee yet :| | Feb 10 17:56 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Turned off buzz, i don't want my gmail to get "bloated" . Thanks but no thanks google! | Feb 10 17:57 | |
schestowitz | She does it purely based on feel/touch | Feb 10 17:57 |
schestowitz | Hiromi Uehara - I've got Rhythm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JfKY0K_NQk&feature=related | Feb 10 18:01 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] 100% true girl! :D RT: @g33f: I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it. | Feb 10 18:02 | |
FurnaceBoy | oh, did you see the movie "Ichi"? If you like a good samurai tale... | Feb 10 18:06 |
FurnaceBoy | (blind woman samurai) | Feb 10 18:06 |
schestowitz | Tom Lehrer - The Tribute (Part 1/3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsj7S-wtEq4&feature=PlayList&p=799AC5DC243C91AE&index=0 | Feb 10 18:08 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I haven't | Feb 10 18:09 |
FurnaceBoy | the dvd is out. if you have a good dvd store around... | Feb 10 18:09 |
FurnaceBoy | we're lucky to have a good independent one nearby | Feb 10 18:10 |
schestowitz | Who's Next http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLPhtuj2xMI&feature=PlayList&p=799AC5DC243C91AE&index=1 | Feb 10 18:16 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I don't watch DVDs | Feb 10 18:17 |
FurnaceBoy | i missed it at the multiplex by one day. | Feb 10 18:17 |
FurnaceBoy | i use dvds to catch up on the films I missed of the past 60 years :) | Feb 10 18:18 |
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sebsebseb | right ok | Feb 10 18:30 |
sebsebseb | someone wants alternative to fspot | Feb 10 18:31 |
sebsebseb | ,but I can't remember name of one | Feb 10 18:31 |
sebsebseb | help guys! | Feb 10 18:31 |
ThistleWeb | gthumb | Feb 10 18:31 |
sebsebseb | bingo | Feb 10 18:31 |
sebsebseb | yeah I think that's the one I was after | Feb 10 18:31 |
sebsebseb | non mono and Gnome yeah | Feb 10 18:31 |
sebsebseb | it's good? | Feb 10 18:31 |
ThistleWeb | gthumb is pretty nice | Feb 10 18:32 |
ThistleWeb | it's gtk, not gnome | Feb 10 18:32 |
ThistleWeb | no gnome deps as far as I know | Feb 10 18:32 |
trmanco | I like the one in kde better | Feb 10 18:32 |
ThistleWeb | and no, it's not mono | Feb 10 18:32 |
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FurnaceBoy | is Krita relevant? | Feb 10 18:33 |
*FurnaceBoy doesn't use fspot or krita so that's a bit of a WAG | Feb 10 18:33 | |
ThistleWeb | krita is an editor isn't it? | Feb 10 18:34 |
ThistleWeb | fspot and gthumb are more managers, collections etc | Feb 10 18:34 |
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trmanco | I'm talking about gnewview | Feb 10 18:35 |
FurnaceBoy | i *thought* krita was also an organiser, but i could be completely wrong. :) | Feb 10 18:35 |
ThistleWeb | don't think so, but then I'm not up on many KDE apps | Feb 10 18:35 |
ThistleWeb | I reckon features will creep onto different things, so it may well have an organising funtion too | Feb 10 18:36 |
wallc_ | krita is image editing | Feb 10 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | ok | Feb 10 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | ThistleWeb: i don't use kde either | Feb 10 18:36 |
wallc_ | nice software, i like it | Feb 10 18:36 |
ThistleWeb | I always put krita in the same camp as gimp and inkscape | Feb 10 18:36 |
FurnaceBoy | wallc_: yeah i've heard good reports | Feb 10 18:36 |
wallc_ | it's nice and gets better all the time | Feb 10 18:37 |
ThistleWeb | well, the QT versions | Feb 10 18:37 |
wallc_ | i am slowly learning to love KDE. i really feel it's time to leave Gnome behind | Feb 10 18:38 |
wallc_ | it's hard to do - i really like Gnome. | Feb 10 18:38 |
ThistleWeb | I did play with mint 7 kde on my netbook, it's different but nice | Feb 10 18:39 |
wallc_ | KDE is pretty, but i still feel a little lost with it... | Feb 10 18:39 |
wallc_ | getting used to it tho. | Feb 10 18:39 |
ThistleWeb | I'm just used to gtk apps, so trying to do soemthing in kde is odd, when I assume I have to install the gtk app to do it, when kde probally have something already installed which does it, and I just dont know abou tit | Feb 10 18:40 |
wallc_ | yes, "odd" describes it well... | Feb 10 18:41 |
wallc_ | that's not bad, i like it, mostly. | Feb 10 18:42 |
wallc_ | i've been using kubuntu. maybe i should try mint instead... | Feb 10 18:43 |
ThistleWeb | it does one good to switch around from time to time, it avoids the mind getting the comfy slippers on around one, and rebelling against change | Feb 10 18:43 |
wallc_ | yes, going from gnome to kde reminds me of when i started moving from windows...but i don't mind change, it's just that i don't always have time to keep learning new stuff. | Feb 10 18:44 |
wallc_ | i'd like some time to enjoy what i've learned for a while. | Feb 10 18:45 |
wallc_ | before having to move to something new. | Feb 10 18:45 |
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wallc_ | (it's an old-lady-thing, we don't always like change) | Feb 10 18:46 |
wallc_ | :o) | Feb 10 18:46 |
ThistleWeb | babies don't like being changed either, it distracts from play time | Feb 10 18:46 |
wallc_ | ha, old ladies are just babies with wrinkles : ) | Feb 10 18:47 |
wallc_ | and less playtime. | Feb 10 18:47 |
ThistleWeb | there's more to linux than just gnome and kde too, which a lot of peeps forget | Feb 10 18:47 |
ThistleWeb | just as there's plenty of less known distros | Feb 10 18:48 |
FurnaceBoy | gentoo is marginal enough for me :) | Feb 10 18:48 |
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wallc_ | i'm not sure i'm ready for a more difficult distro...i fear if i strain my poor brain too much it will quit and run away. | Feb 10 18:50 |
wallc_ | well, time for me to get back to work. just stopped in to say hi...haven't been here in a while. | Feb 10 18:51 |
wallc_ | take care all... : ) | Feb 10 18:51 |
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schestowitz | Oh, I've just missed her | Feb 10 18:55 |
schestowitz | At least she's still around... | Feb 10 18:56 |
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Omar87 | Hi all. | Feb 10 19:07 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ryanmcgreal #Harper govt isn't just scandalising u. No Khadr repat? check. Anti-choice? check. Anti-environment? check. Pro-torture? check | Feb 10 19:11 | |
FurnaceBoy | Omar87: hi | Feb 10 19:11 |
Omar87 | brb | Feb 10 19:14 |
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cubezzz | odd, I can't access my google account | Feb 10 19:15 |
MinceR | did you speak out against the Big Brother recently? :> | Feb 10 19:16 |
FurnaceBoy | lulz | Feb 10 19:18 |
cubezzz | no | Feb 10 19:18 |
cubezzz | I can't login with my email address but I can with my username | Feb 10 19:18 |
cubezzz | it used to work with both | Feb 10 19:18 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Oh golly, I think I want _all_ of these T-shirts! http://bit.ly/guNl | Feb 10 19:39 | |
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schestowitz | Maybe Google is having an hiccup | Feb 10 19:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux : AT&T Is Not Working http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/02/at-linux-is-why-internet-isnt-working.html #fail #monopoly | Feb 10 19:40 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux 2.6.32.8 is Released and Business Formed Around Its Code http://ur1.ca/m0np http://ur1.ca/m0nq | Feb 10 19:56 | |
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alan__ | I couldn't help but notice that you posted a misleading image (not your fault) in one of your posts: "Microsoft’s Touch of Death". Here's a link to the full image: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_rihgl8Kfuew/S3HIZsOdxEI/AAAAAAAADYw/YDkwhvYiKTQ/s512/dsc_5211.jpg | Feb 10 20:22 |
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MinceR | mono religion? :> | Feb 10 20:23 |
alan__ | The sign means the complete opposite to what your article says it does | Feb 10 20:23 |
alan__ | just thought that might be worth correcting | Feb 10 20:23 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Lucas Nussbaum ( #Debian ) Gives Presentation About Debian and #Ubuntu http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=444 | Feb 10 20:31 | |
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ender2070 | lol | Feb 10 20:35 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] List of Favoured #Mozilla #Firefox Extensions http://www.bit-tech.net/blog/2010/02/09/my-favourite-firefox-addons/ | Feb 10 20:47 | |
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FurnaceBoy | "Like a lot of people who care about books and writing and sentence structure, I was initially horrified at the success at Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code. Then I realized what it meant: 80 million people read a book about the removal of femininity from the Catholic Church, about how Jesus liked women and prostitutes and screw-ups and freaks, about how the Bible was edited by men in power, about | Feb 10 20:54 |
FurnaceBoy | how Jesus' divinity was not universally accepted. They read the book, and now it's in their brains, like a vaccination against patriarchal monotheism, even if they don't do anything with the information." | Feb 10 20:54 |
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FurnaceBoy | http://thesmartset.com/article/article02041001.aspx (about a different book) | Feb 10 20:54 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #Nexenta 's Latest ( #OpenSolaris ) http://ur1.ca/m0sp | Feb 10 20:55 | |
cubezzz | There was a book called "The Bible Code" too | Feb 10 20:56 |
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MinceR | if only there was a vaccination against patriarchal monotheism | Feb 10 20:56 |
FurnaceBoy | MinceR: :) | Feb 10 20:56 |
FurnaceBoy | http://w3.newsmax.com/a/feb10/scientific/ | Feb 10 20:56 |
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cubezzz | "most DSL routers din't actually support Linux" | Feb 10 20:59 |
cubezzz | lol | Feb 10 20:59 |
cubezzz | my current router runs Linux | Feb 10 20:59 |
cubezzz | and all my older routers worked with Linux, even the oldest di-704P | Feb 10 20:59 |
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satipera | Hello anyone at home? | Feb 10 21:03 |
satipera | Question for those in the know, did mandriva/mandrake at any point in their history charge for the full version of their distro? | Feb 10 21:06 |
jweyrich | not that I'm aware of. | Feb 10 21:07 |
schestowitz | satipera: nope | Feb 10 21:08 |
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_goblin | Evening all. | Feb 10 21:09 |
satipera | And not for access to drivers etc.. ? | Feb 10 21:09 |
satipera | hello goblin | Feb 10 21:09 |
cubezzz | I wonder if it's possible to ssh into this router | Feb 10 21:09 |
jweyrich | it's more likely to have telnet service. | Feb 10 21:10 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Benjamin Mako Hill Explains That #FSF is About #Freedom , Not Just Software http://ur1.ca/m0u3 http://ur1.ca/m0u4 | Feb 10 21:11 | |
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cubezzz | hrmm, doesn't seem to work with lynx either | Feb 10 21:14 |
satipera | mandrake was so long ago now, I just wondered. I tried it after downloading red hat which was too difficult as well, it was ubuntu that made it easy enough to make switch. I remember mandrake/mandriva website was an absolute bloody mess. | Feb 10 21:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Video: US President Promises to Defend #NetNeutrality , #IPv6 in #YouTube Now on http://ur1.ca/m0ue http://ur1.ca/m0uf | Feb 10 21:15 | |
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satipera | It has put me off looking at mandriva since, but I suppose I should give it another go | Feb 10 21:18 |
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satipera | phirce. is that about cherie blair being lenient with sentencing if she thinks they are religious? | Feb 10 21:20 |
satipera | Maybe that is why she fell for tony. | Feb 10 21:21 |
cubezzz | hrmmm | Feb 10 21:22 |
cubezzz | gcc 2.95.3 | Feb 10 21:22 |
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schestowitz | cubezzz: that's what they say | Feb 10 21:27 |
schestowitz | She fell for Tony cause he was a man of faith | Feb 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | So was Bush.... maybe he was too far away in Connecticut | Feb 10 21:28 |
schestowitz | Can you imagine GWB talking to the air? | Feb 10 21:28 |
satipera | And he is only interested in the opinion of an electorate of one. | Feb 10 21:29 |
schestowitz | Did Neanderthals pray? | Feb 10 21:29 |
schestowitz | Maybe they did to fire and Sun | Feb 10 21:29 |
cubezzz | did Neanderthals speak? | Feb 10 21:29 |
schestowitz | Anyway, seems like reverse evolution... a few more GWB iterations and we're back to chimps | Feb 10 21:29 |
cubezzz | I assume they didn't write :) | Feb 10 21:30 |
schestowitz | But there ar chants | Feb 10 21:30 |
schestowitz | Some primitive culture momorise song without much meaning | Feb 10 21:30 |
schestowitz | Whales too | Feb 10 21:30 |
satipera | steve bell has the chimp gwb angle covered | Feb 10 21:30 |
schestowitz | Whales are probably smarter than us | Feb 10 21:30 |
schestowitz | But they are not industrialised | Feb 10 21:30 |
cubezzz | another interesting question is why humans diverged from Neanderthals | Feb 10 21:30 |
cubezzz | or there was more than one branch | Feb 10 21:31 |
schestowitz | They have?? | Feb 10 21:31 |
schestowitz | I think we're still Neanderthals | Feb 10 21:31 |
cubezzz | no, we are cro-magnon I think | Feb 10 21:31 |
schestowitz | One day we'll all be civilised men, unless we blow ourselves u first | Feb 10 21:31 |
schestowitz | /u/up/ | Feb 10 21:31 |
cubezzz | it's possible cro-magnon made Neanderthal man extinct | Feb 10 21:32 |
satipera | prospects for homo sapien survival are not good in the mid term, we will compete ourselves into extinction | Feb 10 21:32 |
satipera | The next master species will call us the flash in the pan apes | Feb 10 21:33 |
cubezzz | you realize that we have nuclear weapons and don't use them? :) | Feb 10 21:33 |
cubezzz | we aren't totally stupid | Feb 10 21:34 |
cubezzz | 60 years and counting now... | Feb 10 21:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: +1 | Feb 10 21:35 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: the stupid part is 1) having them and 2) we did use them. | Feb 10 21:35 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: furthermore, there are segments of the population who think using them is a good idea now (on somebody else) | Feb 10 21:35 |
satipera | Yes, we used them and at the same time like to think that civilians are off limits in armed conflict | Feb 10 21:36 |
cubezzz | FurnaceBoy, yes that shows a paranoid nature | Feb 10 21:37 |
cubezzz | it's definitely a problem | Feb 10 21:37 |
cubezzz | but I believe in the vast majority of cases that humans aren't stupid | Feb 10 21:38 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] So it seems I can't use Google Buzz on my Google Apps for Domains account.. Am I missing out? :) | Feb 10 21:38 | |
cubezzz | not stupid enough for Mutually Assured Destruction at least | Feb 10 21:38 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: it's not just paranoia | Feb 10 21:39 |
cubezzz | sure, there are some nutbars | Feb 10 21:39 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: it's ignorance + psychosis | Feb 10 21:39 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: a large number | Feb 10 21:39 |
cubezzz | I wonder what happened to the Neanderthals | Feb 10 21:40 |
cubezzz | there's a lesson there | Feb 10 21:40 |
schestowitz | Wow. The Mono proponents seem to have been here | Feb 10 21:41 |
satipera | Neanderthals were just another species we wiped out | Feb 10 21:41 |
schestowitz | Promoting that shotgun wedding of Linux and Microsoft | Feb 10 21:41 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: 60 years is nothing | Feb 10 21:42 |
schestowitz | And there were almost nuclear wars | Feb 10 21:42 |
schestowitz | Cuban missile crisis | Feb 10 21:42 |
cubezzz | satipera, very possibly | Feb 10 21:42 |
schestowitz | Later it was a Russian sub that was about to launch because of panicky commanders | Feb 10 21:42 |
schestowitz | In 1995 the Russians also launched by accident | Feb 10 21:42 |
satipera | Mcarthur tried hard in korea for nuclear war | Feb 10 21:42 |
schestowitz | /also/almost/ | Feb 10 21:43 |
schestowitz | At some point, probably says there will be more nuclear strikes | Feb 10 21:43 |
schestowitz | Maybe some nutters outside state control | Feb 10 21:44 |
schestowitz | But more likely an accidental war | Feb 10 21:44 |
schestowitz | The control systems are aging | Feb 10 21:44 |
schestowitz | satipera: not Truman | Feb 10 21:44 |
schestowitz | I think he wanted to drop 20 bombs on ...... or wait.. | Feb 10 21:44 |
satipera | Middle East is still the hot spot | Feb 10 21:44 |
cubezzz | Truman stopped the idea of nuclear war on Korea I think? | Feb 10 21:44 |
schestowitz | No,MacArthur wanted to ddrop 20 | Feb 10 21:44 |
schestowitz | Truman said no | Feb 10 21:45 |
cubezzz | yes | Feb 10 21:45 |
schestowitz | But he said yes to nuking Japan | Feb 10 21:45 |
cubezzz | before that, yes | Feb 10 21:45 |
satipera | Yes, Macarthur was effectively sacked | Feb 10 21:46 |
satipera | wmd plenty of room for controversy there eh? | Feb 10 21:49 |
satipera | Did anyone watch charlie brooker newswipe? talking about wmd. | Feb 10 21:52 |
satipera | Great line in there. He said Tony Blairs hands were shaking so much as he began to give evidence to the Iraq inquiry that all the blood was shaken off. | Feb 10 21:54 |
FurnaceBoy | satipera: cool summary. http://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/8865803119 | Feb 10 21:55 |
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FurnaceBoy | satipera: Chilcott gave Blair an opportunity to revise history | Feb 10 21:56 |
schestowitz | satipera: Evocative of Gates deposition | Feb 10 21:56 |
schestowitz | Bob like a Pigeon, Mr Bob | Feb 10 21:56 |
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satipera | FB yes he did, the thing I remember most from Blair that day is he wanted to do it all again with Iran, God save us from religious nutters :) | Feb 10 22:01 |
FurnaceBoy | satipera: these people are insane | Feb 10 22:03 |
satipera | If not insane then cause for concern | Feb 10 22:04 |
FurnaceBoy | satipera: notice it's the comfortable, safe, privileged people who call loudest for war against the poor, disenfranchised, already under constant grinding of globalism's bootheel | Feb 10 22:04 |
FurnaceBoy | satipera: no, they are insane. | Feb 10 22:04 |
FurnaceBoy | satipera: Blair is a mass murderer | Feb 10 22:04 |
FurnaceBoy | satipera: and a liar. there is no greater crime most of us can think of than war of aggression | Feb 10 22:04 |
satipera | Fb. I would like to see the war criminals and profiteers in the dock as much as anyone. | Feb 10 22:05 |
satipera | Unfortunately only the smallfry fry. | Feb 10 22:06 |
FurnaceBoy | satipera: i don't see *any*one frying for iraq. | Feb 10 22:06 |
FurnaceBoy | satipera: in the US, the torturers and their enablers are already exculpated | Feb 10 22:07 |
FurnaceBoy | can you imagine? in 2010 | Feb 10 22:07 |
FurnaceBoy | torture supported by the supposed "civilised" nations | Feb 10 22:07 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] BJ Lawson is running for Congress again http://ur1.ca/m0y3 #ronpaul | Feb 10 22:07 | |
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FurnaceBoy | kidnapping foreign citizens | Feb 10 22:07 |
satipera | I agree, if you look at the US war on terror then why are they playing host to the leaders of the Venezuelan coup and the bombers who brought down a Cuban airliner? | Feb 10 22:09 |
FurnaceBoy | it's not a war on terror. it's one big long robbery | Feb 10 22:09 |
FurnaceBoy | there's no consistency to it. it's opportunistic | Feb 10 22:10 |
FurnaceBoy | they're playing the publics like a fiddle | Feb 10 22:10 |
FurnaceBoy | which is why, for civilisation's sake, we have to get some iota of accountability | Feb 10 22:11 |
satipera | It is time that we actually had democracy or accepted it for the sham it is at the moment | Feb 10 22:12 |
satipera | The biggest problem is we are all born into a game that has been going on for centuries and expect it to be fair | Feb 10 22:13 |
FurnaceBoy | we have many options | Feb 10 22:13 |
FurnaceBoy | firstly, to free minds | Feb 10 22:13 |
satipera | Free minds entail freedom fro want. | Feb 10 22:15 |
satipera | We all do things we know not to be right because we have to | Feb 10 22:15 |
satipera | All we can do is support those people we agree with | Feb 10 22:16 |
satipera | We areliving in interesting times. | Feb 10 22:18 |
oiaohm | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experimental.html Hmm | Feb 10 22:22 |
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oiaohm | Looks like google is now lining up to close the loop. | Feb 10 22:22 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #Microsoft fan press lies or at least knowingly deceives about how #Microsoft is doing against #Google http://ur1.ca/m15l #search #bing | Feb 10 22:54 | |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: like the rumours said in 2005 | Feb 10 23:17 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is being accused of “hand washing” (or whitewashing) the battery problems that were found in #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/m191 | Feb 10 23:23 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Latest generation Dell PowerEdge servers ban non-Dell "qualified drives". http://bit.ly/be2dBO With this lock-in are Dell the new Apple | Feb 10 23:26 | |
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schestowitz | Does anyone here use arch? http://celettu.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/arch-is-failing-me/ | Feb 10 23:31 |
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schestowitz | This person could use help.. | Feb 10 23:32 |
_goblin | Im a glutten for punishment.... | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | I do it to myself everytime. | Feb 10 23:37 |
MinceR | gluten? | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | lol | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | typo | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | why do I put myself through it? | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | why do I torture myself? | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | .. | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | what am I talking about? | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | Making a post about Mono. | Feb 10 23:37 |
_goblin | the silliness that ensues when giving opinion on Mono is such a time waster. | Feb 10 23:38 |
_goblin | I wish just one Mono supporter, just one, could have a sensible debate....but instead of that I get a copyright infringing "coder" (who uses RPGmaker) trying to argue a weak point and accusing me of trolling on my own blog. | Feb 10 23:39 |
_goblin | come back Andre Da Costa.....all is forgiven. | Feb 10 23:39 |
Diablo-D3 | RPGmaker | Feb 10 23:41 |
Diablo-D3 | lololololololololololololololololololololololol | Feb 10 23:41 |
Diablo-D3 | lmao, roffle | Feb 10 23:41 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: to hell with them | Feb 10 23:41 |
_goblin | yeah...Diablo.....you may have helped code the Snes emu, but you have nothing on this "l33t" coder of RPGmaker. | Feb 10 23:41 |
Diablo-D3 | I forgot that horrid thing ever existed | Feb 10 23:41 |
Diablo-D3 | _goblin: :D | Feb 10 23:41 |
Diablo-D3 | and the irony here is | Feb 10 23:41 |
Diablo-D3 | back then when I was doing zsnes, I was making fun of rpgmaker | Feb 10 23:41 |
_goblin | David Braben is humbled by Rpgmaker devs. | Feb 10 23:42 |
_goblin | maybe Vista was made with it....? it certainly would explain alot. | Feb 10 23:42 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Intel and #Microsoft in Trouble with the Law Again http://ur1.ca/m1az Intel executive found guilty of conspiracy and securities #fraud | Feb 10 23:42 | |
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_goblin | and vista is certainly an "adventure" | Feb 10 23:42 |
Diablo-D3 | The Recycling bin has reached Lvl 2! Recycling Bin now knows "delete!" | Feb 10 23:42 |
*Diablo-D3 hums the final fantasy victory tune | Feb 10 23:43 | |
_goblin | cast delete | Feb 10 23:43 |
Diablo-D3 | delete doesnt work against the virus! the virus counterattacks, 9999 hp damage! | Feb 10 23:43 |
_goblin | recall | Feb 10 23:43 |
_goblin | (for MUD fans here) | Feb 10 23:43 |
schestowitz | _goblin: yes, I got flak too (Re Mono) | Feb 10 23:43 |
FurnaceBoy | heh | Feb 10 23:43 |
FurnaceBoy | as predicted | Feb 10 23:43 |
FurnaceBoy | as the Mayans predicted, even | Feb 10 23:44 |
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_goblin | Mayans predicted Mono ;) | Feb 10 23:44 |
schestowitz | the "troll in one's own blog" is not a new type of attack | Feb 10 23:44 |
Diablo-D3 | OOH OOH | Feb 10 23:44 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: yeah, but maybe they didn't predict free software ! | Feb 10 23:44 |
Diablo-D3 | CAN I BE A TROLL | Feb 10 23:44 |
_goblin | its new to me. | Feb 10 23:44 |
*Diablo-D3 puts on his troll hat | Feb 10 23:44 | |
schestowitz | tacone who used to hang around here got the same type or attack from Canonical's CTO | Feb 10 23:44 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: let's see if we can troll schestowitz ! | Feb 10 23:44 |
_goblin | lol | Feb 10 23:44 |
Diablo-D3 | Next on the O'Rielly Factor: Is Obama a gay nigger from space? | Feb 10 23:44 |
*Diablo-D3 takes troll hat off | Feb 10 23:45 | |
_goblin | why not we PM ourselves and troll ourselves? | Feb 10 23:45 |
schestowitz | Apparently when he writes his opinion in his site, then it's a "troll" | Feb 10 23:45 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: sigh | Feb 10 23:45 |
schestowitz | He criticised some Mono things | Feb 10 23:45 |
_goblin | Im going to insult Luton Town FC and get myself annoyed. | Feb 10 23:45 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: your opinion must fit the mainstream mold | Feb 10 23:45 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that's why it's so funny dealing with someone like Tartakoff | Feb 10 23:45 |
FurnaceBoy | _goblin: insult Daemon FC instead | Feb 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | It's just an attempt to close debates | Feb 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | Jason started his sites after Ubuntu had deleted his posts | Feb 10 23:46 |
schestowitz | He brought up Mono in Ubuntu Forums | Feb 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | All polite | Feb 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | Then they created a Mono 'zone' (free speech zone) in the forums to isolate Mono issue | Feb 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | Anyway, that's history | Feb 10 23:47 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Buzz does sound like a sex toy | Feb 10 23:47 | |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: see e http://ur1.ca/m15l | Feb 10 23:47 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: other "your opinion is not valid" labels, "terrorist," "extremist," yadda yadda | Feb 10 23:47 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Blogs Lie to the Public About Search Market | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 85.05 KB | Feb 10 23:47 |
schestowitz | re Tartakoff | Feb 10 23:48 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: LOL! Free Speech ZOne. | Feb 10 23:48 |
*FurnaceBoy has to run. bbl | Feb 10 23:48 | |
schestowitz | Small distro, big ego < http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/small-distro-big-ego.html > | Feb 10 23:50 |
schestowitz | _goblin: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/6979/1/ | Feb 10 23:52 |
_goblin | sorry i was afk for a few moments. | Feb 10 23:53 |
schestowitz | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/02/application-ballot-screen-for-ubuntu-oh.html | Feb 10 23:53 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: An Application Ballot Screen For Ubuntu? Oh Jeez... | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 103.51 KB | Feb 10 23:53 |
schestowitz | Why not install everything from the CD, then allow people use the repos? | Feb 10 23:54 |
_goblin | Xfce! | Feb 10 23:54 |
_goblin | my DE of choice!...BUT..... | Feb 10 23:54 |
MinceR | it lacks multiple choice | Feb 10 23:54 |
_goblin | Enlightenment is a close second..... | Feb 10 23:54 |
MinceR | what if i wanted all those browsers installed? | Feb 10 23:54 |
_goblin | haven't yet migrated to Elive.... | Feb 10 23:54 |
_goblin | hopefully this weekend "old Gobo" here has a three day weekend. | Feb 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | Hmmmmmm :-( http://botptr.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/what-happened-ubuntu-you-used-to-be-cool/ | Feb 10 23:55 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: What happened Ubuntu? You used to be cool& « Robots Are Coming .::. Size~: 25.38 KB | Feb 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | .. | Feb 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | [23:54] <MinceR> it lacks multiple choice | Feb 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | Well, iCr*p lacks multitasking | Feb 10 23:55 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 10 23:55 |
schestowitz | I assume the ballot screen makes use of local files | Feb 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | Otherwise it's dump | Feb 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | If you live in African you can't download the apps | Feb 10 23:56 |
schestowitz | You rely on the CD, so many options are just like Synaptic creeping into the installation process | Feb 10 23:57 |
schestowitz | jono: have you seen http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/02/application-ballot-screen-for-ubuntu-oh.html ? | Feb 10 23:57 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: An Application Ballot Screen For Ubuntu? Oh Jeez... | OMG! Ubuntu! .::. Size~: 103.51 KB | Feb 10 23:57 |
_goblin | since we've just been talking coding (well laughing at RPGmaker) here is one of my favorite quotes from the Android Kryten in Red Dwarf: | Feb 10 23:57 |
_goblin | ""If you don't gosub a program loop, you'll never get a subroutine" - Android saying for "Nothing ventured, nothing gained" - Great stuff! | Feb 10 23:57 |
_goblin | what kind of mind creates that humour. | Feb 10 23:58 |
schestowitz | http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/linux-stays-single-while-others-are-married-36855 | Feb 10 23:58 |
MinceR | basic-addled mind? :> | Feb 10 23:58 |
schestowitz | Android? | Feb 10 23:58 |
MinceR | perhaps there's a dialect of basic that compiles into java bytecode? | Feb 10 23:59 |
_goblin | Yeah...you know Kryten from Red Dwarf? | Feb 10 23:59 |
_goblin | please say you've seen it..... | Feb 10 23:59 |
schestowitz | I know | Feb 10 23:59 |
MinceR | i don't know Red Dwarf | Feb 10 23:59 |
_goblin | what? | Feb 10 23:59 |
schestowitz | Coincidence (Google) | Feb 10 23:59 |
MinceR | i've read about it and maybe i'll want to see it | Feb 10 23:59 |
schestowitz | _goblin: he's not from here | Feb 10 23:59 |
_goblin | Roy - ban Mincer! ;) | Feb 10 23:59 |
jono | schestowitz cool idea | Feb 10 23:59 |
jono | maybe as an advanced option in the installer | Feb 10 23:59 |
schestowitz | Yes | Feb 10 23:59 |
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