MinceR | perhaps italy should disconnect from the Internet then | Feb 25 00:00 |
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DaemonFC | They're funny like that | Feb 25 00:01 |
MinceR | i don't think that's funny | Feb 25 00:01 |
DaemonFC | thinking they have jurisdiction over American citizens | Feb 25 00:01 |
MinceR | are the affected google employees usian? | Feb 25 00:01 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Anybody to dump the video streaming on ACTA and post it in OGG somwhere? European Parliament Microsoft crap http://i5.be/awL | Feb 25 00:01 | |
DaemonFC | the suspended sentences were to avoid embarrassing themselves when we would refuse to hand our people over | Feb 25 00:01 |
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MinceR | they can't avoid embarrassing themselves when making such idiotic decisions | Feb 25 00:02 |
DaemonFC | still makes it look like Italy was doing something besides masturbating | Feb 25 00:02 |
MinceR | (except that an alarming amount of countries seem to be similarly corrupt) | Feb 25 00:02 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, Isn't it the case though that if one country in the EU issues an arrest warrant, they're all obligated to enforce it? | Feb 25 00:03 |
MinceR | i don't know | Feb 25 00:04 |
*DaemonFC is trying to remember the name of that movie where an American goes to China and the Chinese frame him for murder and give him a show trial | Feb 25 00:06 | |
DaemonFC | anyone? | Feb 25 00:06 |
schestowitz | Distracting animated avatar........ http://blogs.gnome.org/seth/2010/02/24/gnome-3-will-be-amazing/ | Feb 25 00:07 |
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schestowitz | New linux: http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/2/24/301 | Feb 25 00:07 |
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DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Corner | Feb 25 00:08 |
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DaemonFC | it's a shame that Jamendo doesn't link directly to Vorbis files | Feb 25 00:12 |
DaemonFC | even though they have them right there | Feb 25 00:12 |
DaemonFC | they give you the link to a dead torrent instead | Feb 25 00:13 |
DaemonFC | :( | Feb 25 00:13 |
schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/missile-agency-logo-scares-rightwingers/ | Feb 25 00:14 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Miss California hopeful Lauren Ashley: #Bible clearly says gays must be killed, "God knows more than we do about life" http://bit.ly/bqphPi | Feb 25 00:14 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/02/24/bizarre-ruling-in-italy-threatens-social-media | Feb 25 00:16 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @qu1j0t3] at least they don't misrepresent the bible. This way we can argue against it. | Feb 25 00:17 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Listening to Saint Etienne and feeling very heppy. Massive hugs to @sil | Feb 25 00:19 | |
schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8533640.stm | Feb 25 00:20 |
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schestowitz | Will this be like BL? Windows only with DRM? | Feb 25 00:20 |
schestowitz | Blech. | Feb 25 00:22 |
schestowitz | /. does the whole "pirate" thing | Feb 25 00:22 |
schestowitz | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/02/24/1812244/Use-Open-Source-Then-Youre-a-Pirate | Feb 25 00:22 |
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schestowitz | Latvian 'Robin Hood' hacker leaks bank details to TV http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8533641.stm | Feb 25 00:24 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: yours? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2010-02/24/hungarian-electric-car-splits-into-two-smaller-cars.aspx | Feb 25 00:24 |
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MinceR | i've read about it | Feb 25 00:28 |
MinceR | i think it's too much of a gimmick | Feb 25 00:28 |
FurnaceBoy | it was done in an Australian movie, "Malcolm", 1986 | Feb 25 00:29 |
FurnaceBoy | they built a car which could split in half | Feb 25 00:29 |
MinceR | any car can split in half :> | Feb 25 00:31 |
FurnaceBoy | well, and keep functioning. the movie used this in a getaway sequence :) | Feb 25 00:32 |
DaemonFC | my car looks like it's been used in a few get away sequences | Feb 25 00:33 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 25 00:33 |
FurnaceBoy | maybe it has... | Feb 25 00:33 |
DaemonFC | I checked the trunk for bodies | Feb 25 00:33 |
DaemonFC | before you ask | Feb 25 00:33 |
DaemonFC | :P | Feb 25 00:33 |
FurnaceBoy | you probably should do that after every night out | Feb 25 00:33 |
schestowitz | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/02/23/2317259/Scaling-Algorithm-Bug-In-Gimp-Photoshop-Others | Feb 25 00:35 |
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schestowitz | http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/googles-bad-day/?cs=39642 "On the heels of user ire regarding privacy issues presented by Buzz, the company's new social networking platform, Google has been hit with antitrust charges in Europe, three of its executives were convicted of privacy violations in Italy, and it canceled a NexusOne event in China." | Feb 25 00:35 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: yeah, after this man asked him for direction and he drove away with his hand stuck in the window | Feb 25 00:36 |
schestowitz | ;-) | Feb 25 00:36 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: lucky he didn't call him names | Feb 25 00:37 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: we know what happens then | Feb 25 00:37 |
FurnaceBoy | "What do you call a playground bully with a gun?" | Feb 25 00:37 |
schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/ftc-warns-businesses-about-the-danger-of-file-sharing-networks/?cs=39600 | Feb 25 00:37 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: a ryan. | Feb 25 00:37 |
schestowitz | But he was no bully | Feb 25 00:38 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: "Sir," I think. | Feb 25 00:38 |
schestowitz | He was bullied | Feb 25 00:38 |
FurnaceBoy | we shouldn't let DaemonFC's gun ownership define him... but he seems to... so why not play along | Feb 25 00:38 |
schestowitz | These people sometimes join the police to revenge the bullying | Feb 25 00:38 |
schestowitz | Now Ubuntu has something in common with Tw*tter. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1593305/twitter-makes-deal-yahoo | Feb 25 00:40 |
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schestowitz | http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100223PD216.html | Feb 25 00:41 |
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schestowitz | LOL -> http://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/5023796.Call_for_CCTV_volunteers/ | Feb 25 00:43 |
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schestowitz | http://www.bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/home/2010/02/watch-alex-deane-speaks-at-an-unwarranted-intrusion.html | Feb 25 00:45 |
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sebsebseb | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8522952.stm | Feb 25 00:48 |
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sebsebseb | Read about this before it seems, and good idea | Feb 25 00:48 |
sebsebseb | or maybe I read about something similar, well whatever | Feb 25 00:50 |
sebsebseb | however paying monthly to use a computer properly hrm | Feb 25 00:51 |
cubezzz | eh? | Feb 25 00:55 |
cubezzz | I'm getting some respect for Kaffeine | Feb 25 00:55 |
cubezzz | ugh, BBC is running Microsoft ads | Feb 25 00:55 |
bruce89 | where? | Feb 25 00:56 |
cubezzz | just look up ^^^ | Feb 25 00:56 |
bruce89 | not here they don't | Feb 25 00:58 |
cubezzz | you're not missing anything :) | Feb 25 00:59 |
schestowitz | bruce89: what's the ad for? | Feb 25 00:59 |
schestowitz | I know they advertise outside the UK | Feb 25 00:59 |
schestowitz | bruce89: better yet, grab a screenshot | Feb 25 00:59 |
bruce89 | I would if it was me that saw it | Feb 25 00:59 |
FurnaceBoy | hehe | Feb 25 01:00 |
schestowitz | post it on image/photo bucket or something | Feb 25 01:00 |
schestowitz | Oh | Feb 25 01:00 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: | Feb 25 01:00 |
schestowitz | Canadians get ads | Feb 25 01:00 |
schestowitz | Microsoft ads on a Linux article | Feb 25 01:00 |
cubezzz | oh great | Feb 25 01:00 |
schestowitz | In the MSBBC | Feb 25 01:00 |
cubezzz | Microsoft is always running ads on Linux sites, slashdot etc | Feb 25 01:01 |
FurnaceBoy | yeah but... | Feb 25 01:01 |
bruce89 | yikes, Sweden UK curling is 6 all after 10 ends | Feb 25 01:01 |
cubezzz | ugh, MSBBC sounds like an unholy union | Feb 25 01:02 |
FurnaceBoy | /. is somewhat defensible .. at least a good part of teh audience it's wasted on. | Feb 25 01:02 |
bruce89 | thank goodness for the licence fee preventing adverts for us | Feb 25 01:03 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: can you send a screnshot, pls? | Feb 25 01:04 |
cubezzz | ah, ok | Feb 25 01:04 |
schestowitz | Thanks | Feb 25 01:07 |
cubezzz | http://maxhost.org/other/microsoft-horseshit.jpg | Feb 25 01:08 |
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cubezzz | there you go :) | Feb 25 01:08 |
sebsebseb | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9160878/Federal_judge_orders_Pa._schools_to_stop_laptop_spying | Feb 25 01:09 |
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MinceR | why the extra white area? | Feb 25 01:09 |
sebsebseb | MinceR: where? | Feb 25 01:09 |
MinceR | at the bottom of the image linked by cubezzz | Feb 25 01:10 |
cubezzz | hmmm, weird | Feb 25 01:10 |
cubezzz | don't know why that happened | Feb 25 01:10 |
cubezzz | something about kolourpaint I think | Feb 25 01:11 |
sebsebseb | http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010022401435SCSW | Feb 25 01:14 |
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sebsebseb | Personalley I think web cams shoudn't be part of these lap tops in the first place. | Feb 25 01:15 |
sebsebseb | school lap tops | Feb 25 01:15 |
cubezzz | fixed | Feb 25 01:16 |
cubezzz | hit refresh | Feb 25 01:16 |
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cubezzz | not even sure what Microsoft is advertising there | Feb 25 01:17 |
sebsebseb | tech sites | Feb 25 01:18 |
sebsebseb | get Microsoft adverts | Feb 25 01:18 |
sebsebseb | it's the way it is | Feb 25 01:18 |
sebsebseb | not much we can do about it | Feb 25 01:18 |
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Ender2070 | DaemonFC - what | Feb 25 01:20 |
bruce89 | bugger | Feb 25 01:22 |
bruce89 | Sweden won in the final end | Feb 25 01:23 |
cubezzz | Sweden vs..? | Feb 25 01:23 |
cubezzz | ah UK | Feb 25 01:23 |
bruce89 | well, it's known as Great Britain, but it's really U | Feb 25 01:23 |
bruce89 | UK; I realise curling isn't a big sport, but it's one which Scotland is quite good at | Feb 25 01:24 |
cubezzz | Canada is big on curling | Feb 25 01:24 |
cubezzz | there's clubs all over the place | Feb 25 01:24 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Out to dinner, back in a bit. | Feb 25 01:24 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #MSBBC Advertises #Microsoft in Its Rare #GNU #Linux Articles http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/24/screenshot-msbbc/ auntie ain't behavin' | Feb 25 01:24 | |
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bruce89 | oh well, better than Scotland anyway | Feb 25 01:25 |
schestowitz | gn | Feb 25 01:25 |
cubezzz | later | Feb 25 01:25 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: nite | Feb 25 01:26 |
bruce89 | the BBC do do Dirac mind, but that seems to be as far as they go | Feb 25 01:26 |
FurnaceBoy | iPlayer fiasco | Feb 25 01:26 |
bruce89 | get_iplayer still works incidentally | Feb 25 01:27 |
cubezzz | there's no MSBBC really is there? | Feb 25 01:27 |
bruce89 | not offically | Feb 25 01:27 |
FurnaceBoy | microsoft recognises it is worthwhile to infiltrate | Feb 25 01:30 |
FurnaceBoy | which is revolting. another hack of the system. | Feb 25 01:30 |
cubezzz | Microsoft cruds up everything | Feb 25 01:34 |
FurnaceBoy | up next: Exxon takes over the EPA. Blackwater takes over Army. Goldman Sachs runs the IRS. | Feb 25 01:34 |
FurnaceBoy | the bbc is not supposed to serve a corporation, yet it's being corrupted in this way | Feb 25 01:35 |
cubezzz | I wouldn't say Microsoft is infilrating Linux though | Feb 25 01:35 |
FurnaceBoy | when do we declare enough is enough? | Feb 25 01:35 |
cubezzz | media yes | Feb 25 01:35 |
FurnaceBoy | no, it's found other means to attack linux | Feb 25 01:35 |
FurnaceBoy | famously | Feb 25 01:35 |
FurnaceBoy | it will always find means | Feb 25 01:35 |
cubezzz | but it's not really effective | Feb 25 01:35 |
FurnaceBoy | and notice how they are never "by having a better product" | Feb 25 01:36 |
cubezzz | the real battle is philosophical | Feb 25 01:36 |
FurnaceBoy | before we get to the philosophical, we have to end the crime | Feb 25 01:36 |
FurnaceBoy | the crime spree is outrageous in scope, and continuous | Feb 25 01:36 |
cubezzz | well who is supposed to hold Microsoft in check? | Feb 25 01:37 |
FurnaceBoy | exactly | Feb 25 01:37 |
FurnaceBoy | they hacked the legal system | Feb 25 01:37 |
FurnaceBoy | now they are hacking institutions like the bbc | Feb 25 01:37 |
FurnaceBoy | Gates is already de facto Education Minister in the USA | Feb 25 01:37 |
FurnaceBoy | and wherever else he can pull that off | Feb 25 01:37 |
bruce89 | just to confuse the issue http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/magazine/8517057.stm | Feb 25 01:38 |
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FurnaceBoy | if you read Gates and executive testimony, you will see how they manage to make an end run around the law | Feb 25 01:38 |
FurnaceBoy | nothing sticks | Feb 25 01:38 |
FurnaceBoy | he literally beat the system in teh USA and EU | Feb 25 01:38 |
FurnaceBoy | even when he loses, he wins | Feb 25 01:38 |
FurnaceBoy | i4i patent "loss" was five days' revenue. | Feb 25 01:39 |
FurnaceBoy | for five years of infringement. | Feb 25 01:39 |
DaemonFC | Word of the day: FesterPod | Feb 25 01:39 |
DaemonFC | (Zune) | Feb 25 01:39 |
FurnaceBoy | that's like throwing a rotten tomato on a tank. | Feb 25 01:39 |
FurnaceBoy | at* | Feb 25 01:39 |
FurnaceBoy | in other words, the law can't touch microsoft. | Feb 25 01:39 |
FurnaceBoy | at all. | Feb 25 01:39 |
FurnaceBoy | which i believe was his objective all along | Feb 25 01:39 |
FurnaceBoy | he doesn't like ceding any power or territory to anyone or any thing | Feb 25 01:41 |
cubezzz | outside of the USA it's a bit different | Feb 25 01:41 |
FurnaceBoy | and it appears the bbc has no defence against this inexorable poison either | Feb 25 01:41 |
cubezzz | Acer is starting to give the Big M the finger | Feb 25 01:41 |
FurnaceBoy | he controls the Huffington Post ... NYT ... | Feb 25 01:41 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: right, but notice that MS isn't fighting on that turf. it's not fighting on any technical turf. | Feb 25 01:42 |
FurnaceBoy | it's not even trying to build a better anything. IE9 will suck just as hard. | Feb 25 01:42 |
cubezzz | and I'll never see it :) | Feb 25 01:42 |
FurnaceBoy | it wants market share its way -- by lying and cheating and threatening | Feb 25 01:42 |
cubezzz | IE is losing marketshare... | Feb 25 01:42 |
FurnaceBoy | and infiltrating so that it can block out the competition | Feb 25 01:42 |
FurnaceBoy | from communicating | Feb 25 01:43 |
FurnaceBoy | and injecting FUD | Feb 25 01:43 |
cubezzz | the scary time was around 1999-2000 | Feb 25 01:43 |
cubezzz | now, I'm more optimistic | Feb 25 01:43 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: right, but this hardly matters, the share is gained by other means | Feb 25 01:43 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: no, now is even more scary | Feb 25 01:43 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: this is not about technicalities, you see... | Feb 25 01:43 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: technical battles are easy for F/OSS to win | Feb 25 01:44 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: the turf is changing | Feb 25 01:44 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: how do you stop Gates controlling the discourse in the NYT and BBC? | Feb 25 01:44 |
cubezzz | Now I install Linux boxes all over the place, back in 2000 I was using win2k | Feb 25 01:44 |
FurnaceBoy | big picture, big picture! | Feb 25 01:44 |
cubezzz | he's not controlling BBC :) | Feb 25 01:44 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: they are infiltrating. | Feb 25 01:44 |
DaemonFC | love the Fester | Feb 25 01:45 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: and it 's easy to see why | Feb 25 01:45 |
DaemonFC | embrace the Fester | Feb 25 01:45 |
DaemonFC | buy Vista7 | Feb 25 01:45 |
FurnaceBoy | they need to control the discourse, cubezzz | Feb 25 01:45 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 01:45 |
FurnaceBoy | the technology doesn't matter | Feb 25 01:45 |
FurnaceBoy | F/OSS won the technical battle almost before it started | Feb 25 01:46 |
bruce89 | the BBC can't be all bad, Big Top was cancelled | Feb 25 01:46 |
cubezzz | yes, there wasn't a tech battle :) | Feb 25 01:46 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: right ... | Feb 25 01:46 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: also, there's the patent thing | Feb 25 01:46 |
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cubezzz | Microsoft will just collapse on it's own | Feb 25 01:47 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: yes I agree, but it takes a long time | Feb 25 01:47 |
cubezzz | it's a big fat useless blimp | Feb 25 01:47 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: we still have to be aware of their strategies | Feb 25 01:47 |
cubezzz | and no one uses blimps :) | Feb 25 01:47 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: as they get increasingly desperate | Feb 25 01:47 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: the patent thing is a biggie, there's no sign of patents disappearing in the USA | Feb 25 01:47 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: which means enormous future damage to the industry | Feb 25 01:47 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: and they'll try all this stuff in EU | Feb 25 01:48 |
cubezzz | EU beat up Microsoft actually | Feb 25 01:48 |
FurnaceBoy | sort of. | Feb 25 01:48 |
cubezzz | they hate them I think :) | Feb 25 01:48 |
FurnaceBoy | in the end, Kroes gave a lot of concessions | Feb 25 01:48 |
FurnaceBoy | she threw them a bone | Feb 25 01:48 |
FurnaceBoy | the penalty was nothing | Feb 25 01:48 |
FurnaceBoy | and that charge is now burned out. | Feb 25 01:48 |
FurnaceBoy | the threat is gone. | Feb 25 01:49 |
cubezzz | didn't they pay that those huge fines? | Feb 25 01:49 |
FurnaceBoy | the end result was a compromise in MS favour, and they continue to spin it their way. | Feb 25 01:49 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: the fines weren't large | Feb 25 01:49 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: the browser choice thing was a compromise in MS' favour. | Feb 25 01:49 |
cubezzz | 600 million or something | Feb 25 01:49 |
FurnaceBoy | which is nothing to MS | Feb 25 01:49 |
FurnaceBoy | it's just "cost of doing business," it does not change their behaviuor, | Feb 25 01:50 |
FurnaceBoy | -iour | Feb 25 01:50 |
FurnaceBoy | it's ineffective. | Feb 25 01:50 |
FurnaceBoy | and where 's the next legal attack? | Feb 25 01:50 |
FurnaceBoy | the avenue is spent | Feb 25 01:50 |
cubezzz | Europe is smart | Feb 25 01:50 |
FurnaceBoy | but they lost an opportunity | Feb 25 01:51 |
cubezzz | they know what Microsoft is like, and they don't want the USA controlling Europe | Feb 25 01:51 |
FurnaceBoy | Europe is corruptible too, potentially | Feb 25 01:51 |
FurnaceBoy | MS has influence in Europe. | Feb 25 01:51 |
FurnaceBoy | we just have to minimise it | Feb 25 01:51 |
FurnaceBoy | never forget how dangerous they are | Feb 25 01:51 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: to illustrate | Feb 25 01:51 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: the first version of the browser choice screen REQUIRED IE. And they expected that to be approved... | Feb 25 01:52 |
FurnaceBoy | that' the kind of stunt they pull all the time | Feb 25 01:53 |
FurnaceBoy | with OEMs too | Feb 25 01:53 |
FurnaceBoy | the past court testimony and evidence is very enlightening | Feb 25 01:53 |
DaemonFC | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pNJFZtinpKY/SB4hby5eAZI/AAAAAAAADP4/Ihr6mNpenvM/s1600/BALLMERasDrEvil.jpg | Feb 25 01:54 |
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FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: Dr Evil is fictional character | Feb 25 01:54 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: Ballmer is very much a clear and present problem | Feb 25 01:54 |
DaemonFC | http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/JoeydeVillaandSteveBallmer.jpg | Feb 25 01:54 |
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DaemonFC | nice hat | Feb 25 01:54 |
FurnaceBoy | heh, Joey is from this town | Feb 25 01:55 |
FurnaceBoy | i've seen him around | Feb 25 01:55 |
DaemonFC | Fester proclaims himself emperor of Canada | Feb 25 01:55 |
DaemonFC | http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/52000/Abusive-Ballmer--52068.jpg | Feb 25 01:56 |
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bruce89 | actually, the BBC have made a lot of crap recently | Feb 25 01:58 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Use this one next time you bring up Ubuntu :) | Feb 25 01:58 |
DaemonFC | http://ycorpblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/ballmer-signs.jpg | Feb 25 01:58 |
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DaemonFC | Festerbuntu is the greatest OS ever! | Feb 25 01:59 |
DaemonFC | it's all brown and uses Yahoo, it feels like you're using a dying houseplant! :) | Feb 25 02:00 |
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DaemonFC | speaking of Festerbuntu, here's their spokesperson | Feb 25 02:00 |
bruce89 | every bloody article on Wikipedia about British stuff is spelt the American way | Feb 25 02:16 |
DaemonFC | and every article about American stuff is spelled the British way | Feb 25 02:17 |
DaemonFC | I think someone has a sick sense of humor | Feb 25 02:17 |
DaemonFC | bruce89, Probably just inconsistencies due to whoever edited that section | Feb 25 02:19 |
bruce89 | pretty much every British TV programme I need to fix to use "series" and "programme" | Feb 25 02:20 |
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FurnaceBoy | bruce89: LOL | Feb 25 02:27 |
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FurnaceBoy | jweyrich: bem vindo | Feb 25 02:40 |
jweyrich | FurnaceBoy: boa noite! obrigado :) | Feb 25 02:40 |
jweyrich | tudo bem? | Feb 25 02:40 |
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cubezzz | Humour, Tyre, Colour :) | Feb 25 02:46 |
DaemonFC | uhhhm ok? | Feb 25 02:52 |
DaemonFC | actually, how did English fragment like this? | Feb 25 02:53 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Just one hour to go ! Workshop on Public Software #publicsoftware at Jaipur @ Digantar | Feb 25 02:56 | |
cubezzz | oh he left | Feb 25 02:56 |
cubezzz | Centre :) | Feb 25 02:56 |
cubezzz | last one | Feb 25 02:56 |
DaemonFC | I think people did this shit just to bring about the shitty Readers Digest stories about British people arguing with us over what to call an elevator | Feb 25 02:57 |
DaemonFC | "The elevator was invented in America" | Feb 25 02:58 |
DaemonFC | "Tee hee, well the language was invented here" | Feb 25 02:58 |
DaemonFC | and that was right about the time I punched that fucker in the face and walked away... | Feb 25 02:58 |
cubezzz | Microsoft is an American invention :) | Feb 25 02:59 |
DaemonFC | a very profitable one | Feb 25 02:59 |
DaemonFC | why do you think our government won't stop them? | Feb 25 02:59 |
cubezzz | yes, I'm sure that is a big part of it | Feb 25 02:59 |
DaemonFC | it's also profitable for the EU | Feb 25 03:00 |
DaemonFC | which is why the EU won't stop them | Feb 25 03:00 |
DaemonFC | they just take money | Feb 25 03:00 |
DaemonFC | That'll be $720 million, now we expect you to let people choose Opera if they want that | Feb 25 03:01 |
DaemonFC | (even though they still have to have MSIE on the machine) | Feb 25 03:01 |
cubezzz | didn't they make them remove IE? | Feb 25 03:02 |
DaemonFC | no | Feb 25 03:02 |
cubezzz | pffft | Feb 25 03:02 |
DaemonFC | IE is still there no matter what you do | Feb 25 03:02 |
DaemonFC | even if you "uninstall" it yourself, 95% of it is still there | Feb 25 03:02 |
cubezzz | well assuming you use doze yeah | Feb 25 03:02 |
DaemonFC | the "uninstall IE" option only goes a little further than it did in XP | Feb 25 03:03 |
DaemonFC | in XP it deleted a few icons | Feb 25 03:03 |
DaemonFC | now it removes iexplore.exe too | Feb 25 03:03 |
DaemonFC | the entire rendering engine is still there and can be embedded in anything | Feb 25 03:03 |
DaemonFC | The EU either bought Microsoft's "It can't be uninstalled" line | Feb 25 03:04 |
DaemonFC | or the EU doesn't care and is just using the fine as a tax | Feb 25 03:04 |
DaemonFC | and it wouldn't matter what MS says | Feb 25 03:05 |
DaemonFC | either way the EU is either inept or corrupt | Feb 25 03:05 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 03:05 |
DaemonFC | I'm going to go with both | Feb 25 03:05 |
DaemonFC | sort of a Schrodinger's Cat approach, when you can't tell if someone is stupid or in on it, you have to assume both | Feb 25 03:06 |
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tzk | so, not just Novell, now Canonical begins too to divide the FS community? | Feb 25 03:22 |
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FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: it's more than 'inept and corrupt' | Feb 25 03:37 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: MS did an end run about them and your DoJ | Feb 25 03:37 |
FurnaceBoy | DaemonFC: the law can't touch them | Feb 25 03:37 |
DaemonFC | no, they can | Feb 25 03:37 |
DaemonFC | they choose not to | Feb 25 03:37 |
FurnaceBoy | how exactly | Feb 25 03:37 |
FurnaceBoy | you're wrong | Feb 25 03:37 |
FurnaceBoy | it was an adverse ruling. | Feb 25 03:37 |
DaemonFC | Sherman Antitrust Act | Feb 25 03:37 |
FurnaceBoy | what penalty would have made a difference? | Feb 25 03:38 |
DaemonFC | gives the US government the authority to break them up, like what happened to AT&T | Feb 25 03:38 |
FurnaceBoy | THEY DIDN'T. | Feb 25 03:38 |
DaemonFC | but I only said they could | Feb 25 03:38 |
FurnaceBoy | who's going to try now? | Feb 25 03:38 |
FurnaceBoy | evidently they couldn't. | Feb 25 03:38 |
FurnaceBoy | MS did an end run. | Feb 25 03:38 |
FurnaceBoy | and in the EU | Feb 25 03:38 |
DaemonFC | could and did are two different things | Feb 25 03:38 |
FurnaceBoy | they can't. | Feb 25 03:38 |
FurnaceBoy | nobody can touch them/ | Feb 25 03:38 |
DaemonFC | I could grab my gun and go firing into a crowd | Feb 25 03:39 |
DaemonFC | I am physically capable of doing that | Feb 25 03:39 |
DaemonFC | I'm not going to | Feb 25 03:39 |
FurnaceBoy | you're splitting hairs | Feb 25 03:39 |
FurnaceBoy | fact is, there was no realistic penalty in the USA or the EU | Feb 25 03:39 |
FurnaceBoy | so what next? | Feb 25 03:39 |
DaemonFC | I'm saying the government has the ability, not the will to use it | Feb 25 03:39 |
FurnaceBoy | fact is, there was no realistic penalty in the USA or the EU | Feb 25 03:39 |
FurnaceBoy | so what next? | Feb 25 03:39 |
DaemonFC | the right question is "Why they did not use their ability to do something?" | Feb 25 03:40 |
DaemonFC | the answer may be that they were bribed | Feb 25 03:40 |
FurnaceBoy | because MS has some pressure | Feb 25 03:40 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Feb 25 03:40 |
DaemonFC | that probably is the reason | Feb 25 03:40 |
FurnaceBoy | it may. | Feb 25 03:40 |
FurnaceBoy | so what next? | Feb 25 03:40 |
FurnaceBoy | we know that the EU bowed to a compromise penalty | Feb 25 03:40 |
FurnaceBoy | and the fine is not significant. | Feb 25 03:40 |
DaemonFC | it was not a penalty | Feb 25 03:40 |
FurnaceBoy | we probably know why this happened | Feb 25 03:41 |
FurnaceBoy | but what do we do next? | Feb 25 03:41 |
DaemonFC | it was an excuse to impose a tax | Feb 25 03:41 |
DaemonFC | nothing more, nothing less | Feb 25 03:41 |
FurnaceBoy | eh? | Feb 25 03:41 |
FurnaceBoy | it was a fine for antitrust judgement | Feb 25 03:41 |
DaemonFC | the EU did not fine Microsoft, they taxed them | Feb 25 03:41 |
FurnaceBoy | eh? | Feb 25 03:41 |
DaemonFC | heh | Feb 25 03:41 |
FurnaceBoy | what a load of crap | Feb 25 03:41 |
DaemonFC | excuse to assess a tax | Feb 25 03:41 |
FurnaceBoy | you can be such an idiot | Feb 25 03:41 |
DaemonFC | there was no penalty | Feb 25 03:41 |
FurnaceBoy | that's just what yankee know-nothings always say. | Feb 25 03:41 |
FurnaceBoy | it's a pile of shit | Feb 25 03:41 |
DaemonFC | penalty would have a corrective action plan more substantive than a browser ballot screen | Feb 25 03:42 |
FurnaceBoy | the problem here is: WHAT NEXT | Feb 25 03:42 |
DaemonFC | the EU did not penalize them, they taxed them | Feb 25 03:42 |
FurnaceBoy | who's going to make the next move? | Feb 25 03:42 |
FurnaceBoy | DoJ: nada. EU: nada. | Feb 25 03:42 |
FurnaceBoy | do we petition the martians? | Feb 25 03:42 |
DaemonFC | China might tax/fine them like the EU did | Feb 25 03:42 |
DaemonFC | I call the EU fine a tax because it didn't break Microsoft, it didn't impose sanctions | Feb 25 03:43 |
DaemonFC | MS paid it and moved on | Feb 25 03:43 |
FurnaceBoy | right | Feb 25 03:43 |
DaemonFC | it was a tax | Feb 25 03:43 |
FurnaceBoy | but it *was* a penalty. | Feb 25 03:43 |
FurnaceBoy | just not the right one. | Feb 25 03:43 |
DaemonFC | it's like a seat belt ticket | Feb 25 03:43 |
FurnaceBoy | so what next? | Feb 25 03:43 |
FurnaceBoy | yes. | Feb 25 03:43 |
FurnaceBoy | i4i was the same | Feb 25 03:43 |
DaemonFC | seat belt laws don't promote a state interest | Feb 25 03:44 |
DaemonFC | they generate revenue | Feb 25 03:44 |
DaemonFC | that's the EU Microsoft fine | Feb 25 03:44 |
FurnaceBoy | right, probably they were pressured | Feb 25 03:44 |
FurnaceBoy | so ...? | Feb 25 03:44 |
DaemonFC | If the EU had told Microsoft to make IE optional as in really rip it out, and assessed a fine, I would say there was corrective action | Feb 25 03:45 |
FurnaceBoy | sure! | Feb 25 03:45 |
FurnaceBoy | i'm more interested in what happens next | Feb 25 03:45 |
DaemonFC | cost of doing business, MS moves on, their users still get MSIE | Feb 25 03:45 |
DaemonFC | Ballmer laughs his ass off | Feb 25 03:45 |
FurnaceBoy | yes, we know | Feb 25 03:45 |
DaemonFC | the Russians should do something | Feb 25 03:45 |
FurnaceBoy | heh | Feb 25 03:46 |
FurnaceBoy | they love MS | Feb 25 03:46 |
FurnaceBoy | and they're very corrupt | Feb 25 03:46 |
DaemonFC | they're up next, right? :D | Feb 25 03:46 |
DaemonFC | "We will bury you!" *in fines* | Feb 25 03:47 |
DaemonFC | muahahahahaaaaa | Feb 25 03:47 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, Or maybe this is where Canada rides in to do something. | Feb 25 03:50 |
DaemonFC | Of course you'll have to explain to the judge and jury that the internet is not the little blue E | Feb 25 03:51 |
DaemonFC | then they'll ask what it's all aboot then | Feb 25 03:51 |
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FurnaceBoy | Canada can't do anything, obviously. | Feb 25 03:52 |
FurnaceBoy | the EU was a big hope | Feb 25 03:52 |
FurnaceBoy | it appears they got away with everything. | Feb 25 03:52 |
DaemonFC | threaten to cut off maple syrup | Feb 25 03:52 |
DaemonFC | hmmm, speaking of which, does anyone still eat that? | Feb 25 03:52 |
DaemonFC | yeah, look how many member states the EU had to gobble up to not be impotent anymore | Feb 25 03:54 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Feb 25 03:54 |
FurnaceBoy | it's widely sold here. | Feb 25 03:54 |
DaemonFC | that stuff will plug you up like nothing else | Feb 25 03:55 |
DaemonFC | the only thing you could do to make it worse is mix it in peanut butter | Feb 25 03:56 |
FurnaceBoy | eh? | Feb 25 03:57 |
FurnaceBoy | i'm not sure you're talking about maple syrup... | Feb 25 03:57 |
DaemonFC | they ought to sell it with laxatives mixed in for your convenience | Feb 25 03:57 |
FurnaceBoy | it's just a sweetener like honey or golden syrup | Feb 25 03:57 |
FurnaceBoy | i use piles of it on french toast | Feb 25 03:57 |
FurnaceBoy | in the USA you have it on waffles | Feb 25 03:57 |
DaemonFC | it does not agree with me at all | Feb 25 03:57 |
FurnaceBoy | fake stuff | Feb 25 03:57 |
DaemonFC | yeah, I use the fake stuff that has Splenda in it | Feb 25 03:57 |
FurnaceBoy | odd. how about honey or other syrups? | Feb 25 03:57 |
DaemonFC | nope, I love honey | Feb 25 03:58 |
FurnaceBoy | hm | Feb 25 03:58 |
DaemonFC | the orange blossom honey | Feb 25 03:58 |
DaemonFC | stuff you get in Florida, mmmmm | Feb 25 03:58 |
FurnaceBoy | well must be something about the maple then. | Feb 25 03:58 |
DaemonFC | I wonder when someone is going to build another set of Mesa packages on Koji... | Feb 25 04:00 |
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DaemonFC | I think they must have stopped to freeze it for F13 Alpha or something | Feb 25 04:01 |
tonytraductor | I just read the article about Ubuntu using Yahoo! search | Feb 25 04:03 |
tonytraductor | and I have just recently made the decision to discontinue use of any Yahoo! services. | Feb 25 04:03 |
tonytraductor | I have one laptop with ubuntu on it (rest of my machines are debian). Of course, changing the default search in a browser is trivial. I use google-chrome, anyway, not firefox, anymore. | Feb 25 04:04 |
tonytraductor | I do find it rather odd that ubuntu chose to switch to Yahoo!, though...is there a problem twixt shuttleworth and google or something that I've missed? | Feb 25 04:05 |
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DaemonFC | tonytraductor, http://fedoraproject.org/ | Feb 25 04:05 |
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DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 04:05 |
DaemonFC | I don't think I'm going to use Ubuntu ever again | Feb 25 04:06 |
FurnaceBoy | i'm gonna continue not using it ! | Feb 25 04:06 |
DaemonFC | they'd have to fix some pretty serious concerns/deficiencies | Feb 25 04:06 |
DaemonFC | FurnaceBoy, jono kind of reminds me of "Melissa Mendoza", the sock puppet for whenever anyone bitches about Comcast | Feb 25 04:07 |
DaemonFC | it's really starting to piss me off | Feb 25 04:07 |
FurnaceBoy | heh | Feb 25 04:07 |
FurnaceBoy | people always defend their own turf | Feb 25 04:07 |
FurnaceBoy | 'don't shit where you eat,' i guess. | Feb 25 04:08 |
FurnaceBoy | also this channel is logged | Feb 25 04:08 |
DaemonFC | I care? | Feb 25 04:08 |
FurnaceBoy | and ppl are held to account for public statements | Feb 25 04:08 |
FurnaceBoy | no, not referring to you | Feb 25 04:08 |
FurnaceBoy | others | Feb 25 04:08 |
DaemonFC | oh, jonobuntu | Feb 25 04:08 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 04:08 |
FurnaceBoy | so anyone with a public profile has probably learned to watch what they say | Feb 25 04:08 |
FurnaceBoy | PR-speak, equivocation, etc | Feb 25 04:08 |
FurnaceBoy | weasel words! | Feb 25 04:08 |
DaemonFC | The scary thing is I used to use and love Red Hat and Mandriva | Feb 25 04:09 |
DaemonFC | I don't know how I got on XP and Ubuntu | Feb 25 04:09 |
FurnaceBoy | heheheheee | Feb 25 04:09 |
FurnaceBoy | i wonder if roy is planning a simple bullet list of 'why to avoid ubuntu' or 'how to pick a linux distribution that hasn't sold out' | Feb 25 04:10 |
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DaemonFC | the lady at my ISP's office at the time burned me a Red Hat 6 disc iirc | Feb 25 04:10 |
DaemonFC | that was back in the 90s | Feb 25 04:10 |
tonytraductor | bah, fedora...I quit using fedora about 3 years ago (had used RH/Fedora for c. 7 years). I got tired of yum breaking stuff | Feb 25 04:10 |
tonytraductor | debian rules! | Feb 25 04:10 |
DaemonFC | It had nothing but 2d support for my 3dfx card, so I dual booted with Windows 98 | Feb 25 04:10 |
DaemonFC | didn't allow Windows internet access | Feb 25 04:11 |
DaemonFC | just for games | Feb 25 04:11 |
DaemonFC | spyware was just becoming a problem, but remote attackers, viruses, and worms were around | Feb 25 04:11 |
DaemonFC | in fact, I think I used the program that first brought about the term "spyware" | Feb 25 04:12 |
DaemonFC | that gozilla downloader thing | Feb 25 04:12 |
DaemonFC | I figured out how to patch it to disable the advertising though | Feb 25 04:13 |
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DaemonFC | anti-features | Feb 25 04:14 |
DaemonFC | Windows XP and spyware brought those mainstream :) | Feb 25 04:14 |
DaemonFC | you'd think that instead of hacking around limitations this long, more people would move to software that didn't have those limitations | Feb 25 04:15 |
FurnaceBoy | you'd think. | Feb 25 04:15 |
FurnaceBoy | you'd think that the market wasn't insanely distorted to stop rational choices being made. | Feb 25 04:15 |
FurnaceBoy | but you'd be wrong | Feb 25 04:16 |
DaemonFC | "Oh look, they left a buffer overflow unchecked! Let's use that as a hook to jimmy in a feature!" | Feb 25 04:16 |
DaemonFC | lmao | Feb 25 04:16 |
DaemonFC | pathetic really | Feb 25 04:16 |
DaemonFC | it's like a starving peasant shouting "Look! The kind has dropped some crumbs off his table! Happy day!" | Feb 25 04:17 |
DaemonFC | *king | Feb 25 04:17 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Intellectual property my *** http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/feb/23/opensource-intellectual-property | Feb 25 04:17 | |
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DaemonFC | http://forum.zomgstuff.net/showpost.php?p=209556&postcount=15 | Feb 25 04:27 |
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tonytraductor | I saw the "enemy of the state thing" | Feb 25 04:27 |
tonytraductor | at the same time, the Obama admin has just stipulated that govt. agencies make documentation and information available in open file formats: http://baldwinsoftware.com/blog/?p=54 | Feb 25 04:28 |
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tonytraductor | whoa...does that mean the bot likes me? | Feb 25 04:29 |
tonytraductor | kinda cool how the bot shows the content of a link like that. impossible to spam the channel with misleading links | Feb 25 04:36 |
tonytraductor | I just gotta try this http://www.baldwinsoftware.com | Feb 25 04:43 |
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tonytraductor | wanted to see what it said about my site | Feb 25 04:43 |
tonytraductor | I don't want to flood the channel with links, but that was fun | Feb 25 04:43 |
tonytraductor | I amuse myself | Feb 25 04:43 |
DaemonFC | the Marriage Discrimination Amendment dies in the Indiana Senate for the 10th year in a row | Feb 25 04:57 |
DaemonFC | yay | Feb 25 04:57 |
DaemonFC | err, it passed the senate and died in the house I mean | Feb 25 04:57 |
DaemonFC | like it does every year | Feb 25 04:57 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/337496/linux_2_6_33_released_nvidia_driver_android | Feb 25 05:03 |
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DaemonFC | Nvidia users may soon get some relief from the binary module | Feb 25 05:04 |
DaemonFC | experimental 3d support is better than no 3d support, things keep moving in the right direction, yay | Feb 25 05:04 |
DaemonFC | http://forum.zomgstuff.net/showpost.php?p=209562&postcount=17 | Feb 25 05:37 |
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DaemonFC | You know I'm all about the FesterPod. Uncle Fester made sure it only works with Windows, and only Genuine Windows at that! Uncle Fester even made sure those bad people can't give me AIDS with Ogg Vorbis files. Did you know that all Linux desktop users are stealing Uncle Fester's Intellectual Property and that they should pay him $50 for protection right now? | Feb 25 05:44 |
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DaemonFC | http://forum.zomgstuff.net/showpost.php?p=209562&postcount=17 | Feb 25 05:48 |
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DaemonFC | much better | Feb 25 05:48 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Shoq Frank Gaffney ... RT @plutoniumpage: Oh for God's sake... http://bit.ly/b08Jh2 // what a dangerous idiot #war #death #gop | Feb 25 05:58 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] #woot :D RD: @rahulsundaram #kde four dot four is now in #Fedora 12 and Fedora 11 updates repo | Feb 25 06:07 | |
DaemonFC | yeah, but Firefox 3.6 isn't | Feb 25 06:12 |
DaemonFC | I pulled it out of Rawhide | Feb 25 06:12 |
DaemonFC | :P | Feb 25 06:12 |
DaemonFC | not the biggest thing I've replaced, my system is Frankenstein right now, with about 95% being Fedora 12 | Feb 25 06:13 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 06:13 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Will miss my dear friend @g33f in ASV suntech park, she is going to another office. | Feb 25 06:17 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Brand New Lernid Released - http://is.gd/98rfF #ubuntu | Feb 25 07:06 | |
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DaemonFC | that's what you use to learn MonoDevelop with, right? :) | Feb 25 07:08 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @ptaylor: after listening to @jonobacon yesterday, i think i will give quickly a try. :: woo! | Feb 25 07:27 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Entidades d'usura ♺ @JNegocios: Seguradoras não vão cobrir a maioria dos prejuízos causados pela catástrofe na Madeira http://xl.pt/r/bqPTrz | Feb 25 08:09 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @remin: GoDaddy store your passwords in clear-text and may try to #SSH to your VPS without permission http://htxt.it/x9rd #linux #ISP | Feb 25 08:12 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Aplica-se cá? ♺ @bkuhn: OTOH, I do not think one person should be able to silence others on a whim. That would be autocracy, not community. | Feb 25 08:12 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Hero principal fires poor performing teachers because they wont work $30/hr overtime to assist kids falling behind http://ur1.ca/ngsn | Feb 25 08:17 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Element 112 is now Copernicium http://ur1.ca/ngsv !science | Feb 25 08:22 | |
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schestowitz | "An In-Depth Look at Microsoft's Spy Guide http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/an_in-depth_look_at_microsofts_spy_guide.php And this?" | Feb 25 08:47 |
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schestowitz | "Microsoft Kills Watchdog Website Due to Leaked Documents http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/_improper_use_of_copyright.php Seen this yet?" | Feb 25 08:47 |
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kentma | hi | Feb 25 09:00 |
schestowitz | Some Windows zealot if trolling us..... http://www.tmrepository.com/fudtracker/ | Feb 25 09:00 |
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kentma | actually, Roy, I'd say that site is attempting to mirrow what you do on BN. | Feb 25 09:01 |
kentma | mirror, I mean. | Feb 25 09:01 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Red Corner | Feb 25 09:05 |
DaemonFC | that's the movie I couldn't remember the name of the other day | Feb 25 09:06 |
schestowitz | kentma: I guess it only brings people from outside the 'choir' so to speak to info they don't receive | Feb 25 09:12 |
schestowitz | So that can't be bad | Feb 25 09:13 |
schestowitz | He's just tweeted about me, so that's how I noticed | Feb 25 09:13 |
kentma | indeed. It probably indicates that BN is having a substantial impact. | Feb 25 09:16 |
tessier_ | http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=124338&tstart=0 Boo-frickin-hoo. You lay down with dogs you wake up with fleas. | Feb 25 09:23 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Uses #Vaporware and ‘Piracy’ (Empty Slurs) to Block Competition http://ur1.ca/ngxq #linux #africa #spin | Feb 25 09:29 | |
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schestowitz | tessier_: interesting thread | Feb 25 09:29 |
schestowitz | Ellison spoke about Solaris a lot in the 1-hour webcast after the merger | Feb 25 09:30 |
schestowitz | He's not abandoning it | Feb 25 09:30 |
schestowitz | I watched the whole thing though and he says he's a Linus fan | Feb 25 09:30 |
schestowitz | http://www.mandriva.com/enterprise/en/company/press/mandriva-joins-arm-connected-community | Feb 25 09:35 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Mandriva Joins ARM Connected Community | Mandriva linux .::. Size~: 18.47 KB | Feb 25 09:35 |
schestowitz | :-D | Feb 25 09:35 |
tessier_ | He may not abandon Solaris but he may (or may not) abandon OpenSolaris. | Feb 25 09:43 |
schestowitz | London.gov.uk moves to Linux and FOSS: http://buytaert.net/london-gov-uk-using-drupal | Feb 25 09:49 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: London.gov.uk using Drupal | Dries Buytaert .::. Size~: 10.27 KB | Feb 25 09:49 |
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schestowitz | http://www.junauza.com/2010/02/worlds-funniest-computer-pictures.html | Feb 25 09:56 |
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schestowitz | http://shamhardy.com/2010/02/25/khesvin-patel-opinion-about-ubuntu-linux/ | Feb 25 09:58 |
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schestowitz | "I hate Ubuntu. I immediately lose respect for anyone who runs it, and especially those who advocate it. Here why:" | Feb 25 09:58 |
schestowitz | " | Feb 25 09:58 |
schestowitz | Name 20 features, release-for-release or year-for-year that have not come from Redhat. Redhat basically runs the show when it comes to Linux. This includes things like NetworkManager, Gnome, Xorg, GCC, glibc, LVM, KVM, kernel, file systems et al. Redhat has developers making significant contributions to the entire FOSS software stack upstream." | Feb 25 09:58 |
oiaohm | Xorg intel and gcc some feature intel | Feb 25 09:59 |
oiaohm | As well as redhat. | Feb 25 09:59 |
oiaohm | But redhat upstream submits are a lot. | Feb 25 10:00 |
schestowitz | I've just been on the phone with family | Feb 25 10:03 |
schestowitz | WIndows wireless died | Feb 25 10:03 |
schestowitz | After an update apparently.... bad patch | Feb 25 10:04 |
schestowitz | Not worked for 5 days | Feb 25 10:04 |
schestowitz | I gave a Mandriva Liev CD and it worked! | Feb 25 10:04 |
schestowitz | So now it'll go on a partition (promotion) | Feb 25 10:04 |
schestowitz | Are Linux updates breaking hardware support as much? | Feb 25 10:04 |
oiaohm | Define breaking. | Feb 25 10:05 |
schestowitz | X issues rarely happen anymore, unless there is an in-place upgrade | Feb 25 10:05 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: just not workign | Feb 25 10:05 |
oiaohm | You are more likely to have network manager to really go nuts. | Feb 25 10:05 |
oiaohm | and old school network config still work perfectly. | Feb 25 10:05 |
schestowitz | Anyway, that's another victory for Linux | Feb 25 10:05 |
schestowitz | Started my day with a smile in a way | Feb 25 10:05 |
oiaohm | Ie old ifup and ifdown and interfaces file is 100 percent dependable. | Feb 25 10:06 |
schestowitz | It's good that I spread live CDs | Feb 25 10:06 |
oiaohm | The newer network manager soft is still a little touchy. | Feb 25 10:06 |
schestowitz | NetworkManager? | Feb 25 10:06 |
oiaohm | Yep | Feb 25 10:06 |
schestowitz | 0.8 has just been released IIRC | Feb 25 10:06 |
schestowitz | KDE has a sophistictaed network manager | Feb 25 10:06 |
schestowitz | In fact TOO sophisticated | Feb 25 10:06 |
schestowitz | It had me struggle for like an hour | Feb 25 10:07 |
oiaohm | Redhat developed stuff. Perfectly operational once its version 1.0 schestowitz | Feb 25 10:07 |
oiaohm | Ie NetworkManager needs a few more version. | Feb 25 10:07 |
schestowitz | Cause I didn't understand the GUI (multiple network options )and thought the problem was somewhere else | Feb 25 10:07 |
oiaohm | Network manager of kde still need clean ups. | Feb 25 10:07 |
schestowitz | http://mencucu.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/disable-annoying-beep-on-mandriva-2010/ | Feb 25 10:08 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @tom_watson 73 MPs sign ACTA motion: http://bit.ly/bt3I7J | Feb 25 10:14 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] snp alex salmond is just releasing the referendum questions for either enhanced Scottish devolution or complete independence. | Feb 25 10:19 | |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/josephtartakoff/statuses/9605371672 "Spokeswoman says 'a few positions were eliminated' at Current TV today; no shows being cancelled #pcbuzz" | Feb 25 10:19 |
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DaemonFC | http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/24/nation/la-na-court-miranda26-2010feb25 | Feb 25 10:19 |
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DaemonFC | police can now badger you again thanks to the supreme court | Feb 25 10:20 |
DaemonFC | yay | Feb 25 10:20 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] snp alex salmond is just releasing the referendum questions for either enhanced Scottish devolution or complete independence. | Feb 25 10:22 | |
schestowitz | This article never mentions WIndows: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704140104575057490343183782.html?mod=WSJ_article_MoreIn#articleTabs%3Darticle | Feb 25 10:25 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Engadget has on hands video for #BloomEnergy Energy Server http://ur1.ca/nha7 #Gizmodo discusses internals http://ur1.ca/nha8 | Feb 25 10:27 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bloom 'Box' Energy Server hands-on (literally) with video! -- Engadget .::. Size~: 213.57 KB | Feb 25 10:27 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: they don't repsect it when it comes to TERROR~1 | Feb 25 10:29 |
schestowitz | Obama tried to defend those rights and the neocons used it against him, as though he's a sympathiser of Qaeda | Feb 25 10:30 |
schestowitz | *Al | Feb 25 10:30 |
schestowitz | http://brokengovernment.ning.com/ | Feb 25 10:31 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFOX: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/feb/21/photographer-films-anti-terror-arrest | Feb 25 10:37 |
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schestowitz | new site: http://medfoss.apfelkraut.org/ | Feb 25 10:41 |
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DaemonFC | heh, I could arrest someone committing a felony | Feb 25 10:46 |
DaemonFC | community support officer sounds like a joke | Feb 25 10:46 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @webmink: The Mink is Moving - please adjust your feeds: http://bit.ly/aVKuQM | Feb 25 10:48 | |
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schestowitz | http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/02/amazon-sells-gnulinux-down-river.html "@Kelly: I think there are legitimate reasons for not wanting to give your name when commenting, but you're right, too often people hide behind it to say things they wouldn't if they put their name to it." | Feb 25 10:55 |
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schestowitz | Check the comments | Feb 25 10:55 |
schestowitz | AstroTurfing squad? | Feb 25 10:55 |
DaemonFC | yay, my copy of Madworld is here :) | Feb 25 10:55 |
DaemonFC | now I get to kill things virtually :) | Feb 25 10:56 |
DaemonFC | with tactile feedback | Feb 25 10:56 |
DaemonFC | and motion sensing | Feb 25 10:56 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @webmink: The Mink is Moving - please adjust your feeds: http://bit.ly/aVKuQM | Feb 25 10:57 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, "Am I being detained?" "No....you just can't leave" | Feb 25 10:58 |
DaemonFC | well, at least police are about the same there I guess | Feb 25 10:58 |
DaemonFC | antisocial behavior | Feb 25 11:03 |
DaemonFC | lol | Feb 25 11:03 |
DaemonFC | the police are psychiatrists now? | Feb 25 11:04 |
schestowitz | http://www.hackdiary.com/2010/02/10/algorithmic-recruitment-with-github/ | Feb 25 11:04 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, I saw that | Feb 25 11:04 |
schestowitz | Here is a new example (no law broken but can't leave either): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXMoBTB5WEQ | Feb 25 11:05 |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, Doesn't look to me like there are any high value "terror targets" there | Feb 25 11:05 |
DaemonFC | sounds like government funded make work | Feb 25 11:08 |
DaemonFC | the PCSO thing | Feb 25 11:08 |
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DaemonFC | Now they're saying 985 programmers 14 years and $1.4 billion USD to re-implement the Linux kernel from scratch | Feb 25 11:16 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/linux_kernel_randd_estimate_u_of_oviendo/ | Feb 25 11:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Linux kernel R&D worth over 1bn euros • The Register .::. Size~: 23 KB | Feb 25 11:16 |
DaemonFC | that's almost 20 RIAA lawsuits worth of cash | Feb 25 11:17 |
DaemonFC | :D | Feb 25 11:17 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Many Happy Returns, Apache - http://bit.ly/b0bTWO a reminder of how much it has already done for free sw #apache | Feb 25 11:31 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Many Happy Returns, Apache - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 76.7 KB | Feb 25 11:31 |
DaemonFC | http://forum.zomgstuff.net/showthread.php?p=209589#post209589 | Feb 25 11:35 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Releases Pirated Vista7 Killer. - ZomgStuff Forum .::. Size~: 55.44 KB | Feb 25 11:35 |
schestowitz | > "Summary: This is a screenshot showing how one of our readers (from | Feb 25 11:36 |
schestowitz | > outside the UK) is seeing an article about a GNU/Linux product" | Feb 25 11:36 |
schestowitz | > | Feb 25 11:36 |
schestowitz | > Where is this screenshot that you are referring to ? | Feb 25 11:36 |
schestowitz | > | Feb 25 11:36 |
schestowitz | > http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/24/screenshot-msbbc/ | Feb 25 11:36 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: MSBBC Advertises Microsoft in Its Rare GNU/Linux Articles | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 93.2 KB | Feb 25 11:36 |
schestowitz | Got adblock? | Feb 25 11:36 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: Fester looks chuffed | Feb 25 11:36 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't know why Ballmer amuses me so | Feb 25 11:38 |
DaemonFC | he just does | Feb 25 11:38 |
DaemonFC | he just doesn't strike me as being unusually bright | Feb 25 11:39 |
Diablo-D3 | microsoft advertises for microsoft | Feb 25 11:39 |
Diablo-D3 | am I supposed to be surprised? | Feb 25 11:39 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Microsoft pays ad servers to pick up on pages with references to Linux and spew Windows crap all over your screen | Feb 25 11:40 |
DaemonFC | simple | Feb 25 11:40 |
DaemonFC | I made an exception in my adblock list for Jamendo | Feb 25 11:41 |
DaemonFC | just cause they share ad revenue with the artists | Feb 25 11:42 |
DaemonFC | so if they make a few click pennies cause of me, yay | Feb 25 11:42 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @celso: ROTFL. Fucking great RT @fightingmachine: Ooo-err, etc: http://www.fucking-windows.com. (via @armandoalves) | Feb 25 11:44 | |
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zoobab | rtsp://vod.europarl.europa.eu/nasvod02/cod1002/wm_pad/Channel12/VODChapter_20100223_09131000_11580000_Ch12.wmv | Feb 25 11:48 |
zoobab | ACTA in the European Parliament yesterday | Feb 25 11:49 |
zoobab | does someone knows how to dump thing? | Feb 25 11:49 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I dislike the idea of Linux Foundation LOBBYING http://ur1.ca/nhpm they fight fire with fire | Feb 25 11:53 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] My flipkart wishlist for next month http://www.flipkart.com/wishlist/sagarun #books | Feb 25 11:57 | |
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schestowitz | The Reg is still Google hostile... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/google_android_china/ | Feb 25 11:57 |
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Diablo-D3 | I dont really see that as anti google | Feb 25 11:58 |
Diablo-D3 | thats exactly whats going on | Feb 25 11:58 |
Diablo-D3 | china gets pissy that google said no about censorship | Feb 25 11:58 |
schestowitz | zoobab: screen capture? | Feb 25 11:58 |
Diablo-D3 | google cancels all further china projects | Feb 25 11:58 |
Diablo-D3 | google wins, china loses | Feb 25 11:58 |
DaemonFC | http://www.alphatek.info/2010/02/24/oracle-doesnt-like-small-customers-aka-is-solaris-dead/ | Feb 25 11:58 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Oracle doesnt like small customers, aka. Is Solaris dead? « Alphatek Steven's Tech Blog .::. Size~: 9.87 KB | Feb 25 11:58 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #DRBD now native in #Linux ♺ @glynmoody: What's new in Linux 2.6.33 - http://bit.ly/97oJ29 | Feb 25 11:59 | |
DaemonFC | Solaris is a cold corpse | Feb 25 11:59 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: not that.... | Feb 25 11:59 |
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schestowitz | The Reg only ever covers bad Google news | Feb 25 11:59 |
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Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: imo this isnt bad news | Feb 25 11:59 |
Diablo-D3 | Google upheld their motto. | Feb 25 11:59 |
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DaemonFC | Oracle is squandering all the good stuff they got from Sun | Feb 25 12:00 |
DaemonFC | has anyone noticed? | Feb 25 12:00 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/google_italy_youtube_court/ | Feb 25 12:01 |
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schestowitz | Hmmmm... mkay.. | Feb 25 12:01 |
DaemonFC | makes me kind of have to ask if they're for real about BtrFS | Feb 25 12:01 |
DaemonFC | watch them do some whacky plug-in shit like Hans Reiser was planning to make money on | Feb 25 12:01 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/google_decc/ | Feb 25 12:01 |
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DaemonFC | Edward Shishkin has released the entire plug-in model for Reiser4 iirc | Feb 25 12:02 |
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schestowitz | Gavin Clarke win-boosting... http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/microsoft_multipoint_server/ | Feb 25 12:04 |
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DaemonFC | Ubuntu's use case mapper is proprietary, needs Google Docs | Feb 25 12:05 |
DaemonFC | big surprise | Feb 25 12:05 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: wait | Feb 25 12:05 |
Diablo-D3 | microsoft aims for.... 30 year old unix technology? | Feb 25 12:05 |
DaemonFC | well, they've been trying for that for at least 20 years already with NT | Feb 25 12:06 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 12:06 |
MinceR | wasn't that 35 year old VMS technology? | Feb 25 12:07 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft's problem is that they make things that are good enough to work now and not all that expandable | Feb 25 12:07 |
DaemonFC | then try to build onto them later | Feb 25 12:07 |
MinceR | not only that | Feb 25 12:07 |
MinceR | they take a good design and completely ruin it before implementing | Feb 25 12:07 |
MinceR | then implement it badly | Feb 25 12:07 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, The only thing in Windows NT that has never really collapsed under its own weight is the TCP/IP stack | Feb 25 12:08 |
DaemonFC | they didn't write that :) | Feb 25 12:08 |
MinceR | (though they don't always start with good design) | Feb 25 12:08 |
Diablo-D3 | I was thnking more like X | Feb 25 12:08 |
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MinceR | they didn't implement that TCP/IP stack though :> | Feb 25 12:08 |
Diablo-D3 | hurr. | Feb 25 12:09 |
DaemonFC | they need a new file system, maybe FesterFS? | Feb 25 12:09 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 12:09 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 25 12:09 |
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MinceR | WinFS. :> | Feb 25 12:09 |
DaemonFC | WinFS isn't a file system | Feb 25 12:09 |
DaemonFC | it's slow as fuck | Feb 25 12:09 |
MinceR | it was marketed as such | Feb 25 12:09 |
DaemonFC | and it rides on top of NTFS :P | Feb 25 12:09 |
MinceR | which is pretty much in line with what m$ is doing anyway | Feb 25 12:09 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, I played with WinFS quite a lot actually | Feb 25 12:10 |
MinceR | get real, don't expect them to be able to develop a really new FS ever :> | Feb 25 12:10 |
DaemonFC | and it killed the file system performance way too much for the extra indexing services it provided to be worth having | Feb 25 12:10 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @greve With more judges like this, the web may soon be a very dull place: http://ur1.ca/ndil | Feb 25 12:11 | |
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DaemonFC | I used WinFS on top of XP and "Longhorn XP Professional" | Feb 25 12:11 |
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DaemonFC | early alphas of Vista | Feb 25 12:11 |
DaemonFC | before the "reset" | Feb 25 12:11 |
DaemonFC | I'm just amused that Windows 7 is "Blackcomb" that I was reading about before XP went out, 10 years ago | Feb 25 12:12 |
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DaemonFC | Blackcomb was supposed to be JesusOS | Feb 25 12:13 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: its all largely bullshit anyhow | Feb 25 12:13 |
DaemonFC | virusproof | Feb 25 12:13 |
Diablo-D3 | if I wanted a thin client that thin, I'd build an arm box that just runs nx | Feb 25 12:13 |
DaemonFC | totally impervious to system crashing bugs too | Feb 25 12:13 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: what are you referring to? | Feb 25 12:13 |
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zoobab | Diablo-D3: I want that too | Feb 25 12:17 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: nx. | Feb 25 12:17 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: a x over network protocol that doesnt suck | Feb 25 12:17 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: google <3s it | Feb 25 12:17 |
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MinceR | Diablo-D3: i know what nx is. what i don't know is why you're bringing thin clients up. | Feb 25 12:17 |
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Diablo-D3 | [06:57:55] <schestowitz> Gavin Clarke win-boosting... http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/02/24/microsoft_multipoint_server/ | Feb 25 12:18 |
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MinceR | ic | Feb 25 12:18 |
tuxmania | Good afternoon. | Feb 25 12:18 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: ergo my 25 year old unix tech comment | Feb 25 12:18 |
MinceR | oh. | Feb 25 12:18 |
MinceR | i missed the connection | Feb 25 12:18 |
Diablo-D3 | X was the original mass scale thin client windowing tech | Feb 25 12:18 |
MinceR | since m$ tries to present ancient technology as new all the time :) | Feb 25 12:19 |
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Diablo-D3 | man whats with identica bot | Feb 25 12:19 |
*Diablo-D3 kicks it | Feb 25 12:19 | |
oiaohm | Still equals lower income. | Feb 25 12:19 |
MinceR | i wonder if it would make sense to combine multiseat with thin clients in such an environment | Feb 25 12:20 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: well, you can | Feb 25 12:20 |
tuxmania | We run thin clients in some classrooms. It sucks and we are thinking about moving away towards an open network instead where students themselves decide what they use on their computers | Feb 25 12:20 |
Diablo-D3 | run the thin client display as a fb | Feb 25 12:20 |
Diablo-D3 | tuxmania: well | Feb 25 12:20 |
MinceR | tuxmania: they could run what they want on the server too, couldn't they? | Feb 25 12:20 |
Diablo-D3 | web browsers are the new thin client | Feb 25 12:20 |
Diablo-D3 | so just make all your school shit run inside a web browser | Feb 25 12:21 |
tuxmania | MinceR, on windows??? | Feb 25 12:21 |
MinceR | yes, and i wish web browsers were web browsers | Feb 25 12:21 |
Diablo-D3 | so it absolutely 100% doesnt matter what they run in the end | Feb 25 12:21 |
DaemonFC | I have to wonder if some of the artists on Jamendo understand the license they use | Feb 25 12:21 |
MinceR | tuxmania: well, running windows is a bad place to start from :> | Feb 25 12:21 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: who cares? ajax doesnt harm your experience | Feb 25 12:21 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: yes it does | Feb 25 12:21 |
tuxmania | My goal is a network thats 100% platform agnostic | Feb 25 12:21 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: then dont use sites that use it. | Feb 25 12:21 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: can't | Feb 25 12:21 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: then stop paying your isp. | Feb 25 12:21 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] New blog post: "New Ubuntu Podcast Launches" http://bit.ly/cfNKjo | Feb 25 12:22 | |
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MinceR | the best i can manage is use NoScript to block such bloat where i can | Feb 25 12:22 |
DaemonFC | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ | Feb 25 12:22 |
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Diablo-D3 | "bloat" | Feb 25 12:22 |
DaemonFC | dangerous because it allows for commercial exploitation | Feb 25 12:22 |
MinceR | but often the site refuses to work without its scripts to do stuff that could well be done in static HTML and CSS | Feb 25 12:22 |
DaemonFC | seems to me like original BSD with advertising clause | Feb 25 12:22 |
Diablo-D3 | lolfail. | Feb 25 12:22 |
DaemonFC | well, except you have to use same license on derivatives | Feb 25 12:22 |
Diablo-D3 | I'd like to see you do IoC without javascript | Feb 25 12:23 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Google patent trial: "a pair of entrepreneurs with one failed business idea, almost no computer programming experience" http://i5.be/awT | Feb 25 12:23 | |
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MinceR | wtf IoC? | Feb 25 12:23 |
DaemonFC | I'd use the Non-Commercial version that RMS was pissed over | Feb 25 12:23 |
DaemonFC | fuck him | Feb 25 12:23 |
Diablo-D3 | inversion of control | Feb 25 12:24 |
DaemonFC | why should you let a company find your work on the internet and use it without paying you? :) | Feb 25 12:24 |
Diablo-D3 | it has several ways of being applied, but in this case, I mean client side. | Feb 25 12:24 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: web pages typically don't need that. | Feb 25 12:24 |
Diablo-D3 | as in, the client runs "the program", and just fetches data from the server. | Feb 25 12:24 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: but the term web page is meaningless | Feb 25 12:24 |
Diablo-D3 | gmail, for example, is not a web page. | Feb 25 12:24 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] A "disturbing" number of the lawsuits come from companies controlled by patent lawyers, sometimes asserting the lawyers' own "inventions" | Feb 25 12:25 | |
tuxmania | DaemonFC: i would shoot myself if i found my art in some bland detergent ad or something, going world wide | Feb 25 12:25 |
Diablo-D3 | its a webapp that uses some client side IoC techniques | Feb 25 12:25 |
MinceR | my point is: all too often websites present hypertext information in a form where they force you to use it as if it was a web application | Feb 25 12:25 |
DaemonFC | tuxmania, My point exactly | Feb 25 12:25 |
Diablo-D3 | tuxmania: you would shoot yourself if you woke up and realized you're DaemonFC too. | Feb 25 12:25 |
tuxmania | hehe | Feb 25 12:25 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: you dont really have much of a point. | Feb 25 12:25 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: neither do you | Feb 25 12:25 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: the only argument thats really acceptable here is hating sites that use flash | Feb 25 12:25 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: no, that's only one of the arguments that are acceptable here. | Feb 25 12:26 |
tuxmania | And silverdarkness | Feb 25 12:26 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: btw, there's also SilverLie | Feb 25 12:26 |
tuxmania | i hate, with a passion, anything dotnet | Feb 25 12:26 |
Diablo-D3 | silverlight is just flash--. | Feb 25 12:26 |
Diablo-D3 | its the same shit from a different vendor | Feb 25 12:26 |
DaemonFC | tuxmania, I'd be pissed if some big company was using something I put out there to make money with, and I wasn't getting any | Feb 25 12:26 |
DaemonFC | totally different from some random person copying it for their own use | Feb 25 12:26 |
Diablo-D3 | anything they can do, I can do with html5 faster, lighter, and better integrated into the browsing experience | Feb 25 12:26 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: then FLOSS isn't for you | Feb 25 12:26 |
tuxmania | On my servers, the only thing crapping out is Novells mono crap adn dotnet on the winddows boxes | Feb 25 12:27 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, music isn't software | Feb 25 12:27 |
Diablo-D3 | seriously | Feb 25 12:27 |
Diablo-D3 | async javascript? html5 | Feb 25 12:27 |
Diablo-D3 | video? html5 | Feb 25 12:27 |
Diablo-D3 | vector graphics? svg | Feb 25 12:27 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: i didn't know you were talking about music :> | Feb 25 12:27 |
Diablo-D3 | input for, say, games? javascript | Feb 25 12:27 |
DaemonFC | Tell me what that company is going to give me that isn't money in return for using the music I've theoretically made the mistake of using the attribution share alike license on | Feb 25 12:27 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 12:27 |
Diablo-D3 | animation and logic and other dynamic shit? javascript | Feb 25 12:28 |
Diablo-D3 | anything they can do, I can do better. | Feb 25 12:28 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: point. | Feb 25 12:28 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, I'm arguing that BSD licenses aren't always appropriate for art and music | Feb 25 12:28 |
DaemonFC | RMS says they are :) | Feb 25 12:28 |
MinceR | ic | Feb 25 12:28 |
Diablo-D3 | http://thepriorart.typepad.com/the_prior_art/2010/02/patent-litigation-weekly-inside-googles-first-patent-trial.html | Feb 25 12:29 |
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Diablo-D3 | holy | Feb 25 12:29 |
Diablo-D3 | shit | Feb 25 12:29 |
Diablo-D3 | this is epic | Feb 25 12:29 |
Diablo-D3 | Im usually not a google fanboy | Feb 25 12:29 |
Diablo-D3 | but I totally salute google here | Feb 25 12:29 |
tuxmania | Well, Xerox just launched an assault with patents on search related stuff | Feb 25 12:29 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA discussed in INTA committee (Wed 24 Feb 2010) [1/4]: http://i5.be/awU | Feb 25 12:30 | |
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DaemonFC | MinceR, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/ | Feb 25 12:30 |
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tuxmania | Software patents are the stupidest thing ever instituted. | Feb 25 12:30 |
DaemonFC | that's the license I favor | Feb 25 12:30 |
Diablo-D3 | well | Feb 25 12:30 |
Diablo-D3 | they never were instituted | Feb 25 12:30 |
Diablo-D3 | they're illegal under US patent law | Feb 25 12:31 |
DaemonFC | gives people that aren't seeking to profiteer the right to modify, redistribute, and use | Feb 25 12:31 |
Diablo-D3 | the only thing going on here is the USPTO fucked up and didn't realize this until it was far too late | Feb 25 12:31 |
DaemonFC | but it doesn't let people or companies profiteer off your work | Feb 25 12:31 |
Diablo-D3 | and has spent the last however many years covering up their mistake | Feb 25 12:31 |
tuxmania | Diablo-D3: well, the politicians sure seems to love them for all they can | Feb 25 12:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA discussed in INTA committee (Wed 24 Feb 2010) [2/4]: http://i5.be/awV | Feb 25 12:32 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA discussed in INTA committee (Wed 24 Feb 2010) [3/4]: http://i5.be/awW | Feb 25 12:32 | |
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DaemonFC | but if a non-profit was using it to help in a charity drive, that would be OK I think :) | Feb 25 12:32 |
Diablo-D3 | tuxmania: of course | Feb 25 12:32 |
Diablo-D3 | they get to steal money from people using it | Feb 25 12:32 |
DaemonFC | but if Verizon finds some stock photos I took, they cannot use them | Feb 25 12:32 |
Diablo-D3 | its yet another stupid tax | Feb 25 12:32 |
Diablo-D3 | I'd never file for a patent like that because I know the other shoes going to drop in the next decade | Feb 25 12:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA discussed in INTA committee (Wed 24 Feb 2010) [4/4]: http://i5.be/awX | Feb 25 12:33 | |
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DaemonFC | If I developed some software, I'd probably release the patents into the public domain and enforce my ownership of my software with copyright and trademark | Feb 25 12:33 |
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Diablo-D3 | besides | Feb 25 12:33 |
Diablo-D3 | _having_ patents just means you'll be sued pre-emptively | Feb 25 12:34 |
DaemonFC | I think that ownership of software should only go that far, the individual implementation | Feb 25 12:34 |
DaemonFC | not the idea behind it | Feb 25 12:34 |
DaemonFC | copyright already covers source code, trademark covers logos and names | Feb 25 12:35 |
DaemonFC | Windows could be just as proprietary without the patents | Feb 25 12:36 |
DaemonFC | patents just let them sue people for using separate implementations of things | Feb 25 12:36 |
DaemonFC | which is totalyl wrong | Feb 25 12:36 |
MinceR | patents let them sue people for using the same basic ideas :> | Feb 25 12:36 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes and no | Feb 25 12:36 |
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MinceR | afaik it's completely out of line with non-software non-business-model patents | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | you have to be very careful who you sue | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | if you sue someone whos as big or bigger than you | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | you lose | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | if you sue someone who has no money | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | you lose | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | if you use someone who has patents you're violating | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | you lose | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | er, sue | Feb 25 12:37 |
Diablo-D3 | software patents are largely defensive | Feb 25 12:37 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA discussed in the Netherlands: http://i5.be/awY | Feb 25 12:38 | |
Diablo-D3 | its _extremely_ hard to go to war using a patent warchest | Feb 25 12:38 |
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MinceR | so they just spread FUD instead | Feb 25 12:38 |
Diablo-D3 | no | Feb 25 12:38 |
MinceR | m$ and crApple do that all the time | Feb 25 12:38 |
Diablo-D3 | you need an absolute fuckload to win an exchange | Feb 25 12:38 |
Diablo-D3 | microsoft and apple have an absolute fuckload | Feb 25 12:38 |
Diablo-D3 | there are very very very very few entities that could manage to take on big names and win | Feb 25 12:38 |
Diablo-D3 | its extremely difficult | Feb 25 12:38 |
Diablo-D3 | and you notice, btw, even though they can, they rarely do | Feb 25 12:39 |
Diablo-D3 | they spend inordinately more time defending themselves against idiots than anything else | Feb 25 12:39 |
tuxmania | the worst problem is that patents doing activity X "but on the internet" gets granted all the time | Feb 25 12:40 |
MinceR | yet they support the system | Feb 25 12:40 |
MinceR | so they obviously believe it's worth it | Feb 25 12:40 |
tuxmania | MinceR: i think the campaign contributions believe its worth it, not their own thinking | Feb 25 12:41 |
Diablo-D3 | tuxmania: btw yes and no | Feb 25 12:41 |
MinceR | i mean m$ and crApple support sw patents | Feb 25 12:41 |
Diablo-D3 | tuxmania: x + y, where y is very simple, is allowed for new patents | Feb 25 12:41 |
DaemonFC | then where did i4i come into play? | Feb 25 12:41 |
Diablo-D3 | tuxmania: but x, in this case, was invalid to begin with | Feb 25 12:41 |
Diablo-D3 | adding y doesn't suddenly make it better | Feb 25 12:42 |
MinceR | for example back when it was about to be decide here in the EU whether or not to allow sw patents, B$A was campaigning for them | Feb 25 12:42 |
MinceR | and you know who's behing b$a | Feb 25 12:42 |
tuxmania | o yes | Feb 25 12:42 |
MinceR | (now Jesusland is trying to force it on us via the ACTA instead, which is being discussed secretly) | Feb 25 12:42 |
tuxmania | well, isnt democracy wonderful? | Feb 25 12:43 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, Between Atheists and Catholics alone.... | Feb 25 12:43 |
MinceR | it is, but this isn't democracy | Feb 25 12:43 |
tuxmania | nope, never was | Feb 25 12:43 |
DaemonFC | I'm sure there's not many people here that take religion seriously | Feb 25 12:43 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: yet your politicians have to fake being devout christians if they want to succeed. | Feb 25 12:44 |
DaemonFC | Catholic suicide bombers would be like "You go first! No, YOU go first. Well how do I know you'll go? Just trust me!" | Feb 25 12:44 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: and yet it is only in the USA that teaching creationism beside evolution in schools is considered. | Feb 25 12:44 |
DaemonFC | it's not done | Feb 25 12:45 |
DaemonFC | and besides, that was Kansas | Feb 25 12:45 |
DaemonFC | :) | Feb 25 12:45 |
tuxmania | XD | Feb 25 12:45 |
MinceR | that's part of Jesusland | Feb 25 12:45 |
DaemonFC | uhhm, if you mean that region of the US | Feb 25 12:46 |
DaemonFC | then yes, I agree | Feb 25 12:46 |
MinceR | no, i mean the usa | Feb 25 12:47 |
DaemonFC | I've never heard of creationism being seriously considered in Indiana for inclusion in public schools | Feb 25 12:47 |
DaemonFC | maybe if this was 1950 or something | Feb 25 12:47 |
zoobab | BSA is still campaining for it, through the UPLS: | Feb 25 12:49 |
zoobab | http://eurolinux.org/?q=node/16 | Feb 25 12:50 |
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DaemonFC | it might have escaped notice that those states are the poorest, least educated, and a joke among the rest | Feb 25 12:50 |
DaemonFC | just to point that out | Feb 25 12:50 |
DaemonFC | cause it's important to take into consideration | Feb 25 12:50 |
MinceR | then there's all that christian speech in official state business | Feb 25 12:51 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, It's what happens when you let the retards in Arkansas have representatives :) | Feb 25 12:52 |
DaemonFC | Alabama even | Feb 25 12:52 |
DaemonFC | Utah (Mormonland) | Feb 25 12:53 |
MinceR | i thought dubya's people came from texas | Feb 25 12:53 |
DaemonFC | uhhhm, yeah, that's kind of like all the rest of them put together | Feb 25 12:54 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, I've always supported giving Texas back to the Mexicans | Feb 25 12:54 |
DaemonFC | you know, like a trojan horse? | Feb 25 12:54 |
tuxmania | heh | Feb 25 12:55 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 25 12:55 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, I don't think any state but Texas has managed to get a UN human rights inspection of their death row | Feb 25 12:56 |
DaemonFC | so there you go | Feb 25 12:56 |
DaemonFC | I'm all for the death penalty in Texas, cause it means there will will be less Texans | Feb 25 12:56 |
MinceR | :> | Feb 25 12:56 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, I recall an SNL skit from back when Bush was the governor of Texas | Feb 25 12:58 |
DaemonFC | "Born again? Fry her twice!!!" | Feb 25 12:58 |
DaemonFC | :D | Feb 25 12:58 |
MinceR | lol | Feb 25 12:58 |
kentma | roy - server is up, btw | Feb 25 12:58 |
DaemonFC | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/George_Dubya_Bush | Feb 25 13:04 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: George Dubya Bush - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 129.94 KB | Feb 25 13:04 |
DaemonFC | "George “Generalissimus Maximus” “The Decider” Bush (born July 6, 1946) was the final president of the Totalitarian American Empire (its successor is the United Liberal Abortionist Republic of Change and Hope)." | Feb 25 13:05 |
DaemonFC | there you go | Feb 25 13:05 |
MinceR | :D | Feb 25 13:06 |
DaemonFC | ahhhh "He forgot Poland!" | Feb 25 13:07 |
DaemonFC | best quote EVER | Feb 25 13:07 |
DaemonFC | I was actually watching TV when he said that and spit out my drink | Feb 25 13:08 |
DaemonFC | I don't know how journalists hold it in when things like that happen | Feb 25 13:09 |
DaemonFC | I'd be over there on the floor suffocating, in front of the president | Feb 25 13:10 |
MinceR | perhaps they send believers | Feb 25 13:10 |
DaemonFC | "ACK! Hghk chahk *cough* kha!" | Feb 25 13:11 |
DaemonFC | ~ George W. Bush on pretzels | Feb 25 13:11 |
DaemonFC | nice! | Feb 25 13:11 |
cubezzz | that was funny | Feb 25 13:11 |
DaemonFC | a pretzel almost gave us "President Dick Cheney" | Feb 25 13:12 |
cubezzz | he couldn't eat a pretzel correctly | Feb 25 13:12 |
DaemonFC | a FUCKING pretzel almost gave us "President Dick Cheney" | Feb 25 13:12 |
MinceR | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Dickavis_and_bushead.jpg | Feb 25 13:12 |
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DaemonFC | http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/c/c1/WMDSearchsm2.jpg | Feb 25 13:13 |
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cubezzz | hahahaha | Feb 25 13:13 |
DaemonFC | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/d/de/DFM.jpg | Feb 25 13:13 |
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cubezzz | coins negative 9 billion :) | Feb 25 13:14 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz, I say we should deport conservatives to Iraq | Feb 25 13:14 |
DaemonFC | tell them to think of it as being reunited with their tax money | Feb 25 13:14 |
cubezzz | the world is crazy | Feb 25 13:15 |
cubezzz | I always thought the president was supposed to be a smart guy | Feb 25 13:15 |
DaemonFC | http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/9e/Obama-wrote-crayon.jpg | Feb 25 13:16 |
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Diablo-D3 | [08:09:05] <cubezzz> I always thought the president was supposed to be a smart guy | Feb 25 13:17 |
Diablo-D3 | AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH | Feb 25 13:17 |
Diablo-D3 | HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH | Feb 25 13:17 |
Diablo-D3 | AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHaH | Feb 25 13:17 |
Diablo-D3 | oh wow. | Feb 25 13:17 |
DaemonFC | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hungary | Feb 25 13:17 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Hungary - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 57.76 KB | Feb 25 13:17 |
MinceR | smart guys can usually do more productive things with their life, as opposed to a career in politics. | Feb 25 13:17 |
DaemonFC | There's one for MinceR | Feb 25 13:17 |
Diablo-D3 | yes | Feb 25 13:17 |
Diablo-D3 | like becoming rich | Feb 25 13:17 |
Diablo-D3 | and then just buying politicians to get things done | Feb 25 13:18 |
MinceR | a career in politics can lead to becoming rich, but there are more fun and useful ways to do it :> | Feb 25 13:18 |
DaemonFC | Famous Hungarians...... | Feb 25 13:19 |
DaemonFC | "Bill Gates" | Feb 25 13:19 |
DaemonFC | nice | Feb 25 13:19 |
cubezzz | like Gates, yes | Feb 25 13:19 |
cubezzz | or Rockefeller | Feb 25 13:19 |
Diablo-D3 | yeah | Feb 25 13:20 |
Diablo-D3 | gates got rich THEN manipulated to get richer | Feb 25 13:20 |
DaemonFC | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Hungarian | Feb 25 13:20 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Hungarian language - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 27.56 KB | Feb 25 13:20 |
Diablo-D3 | rockefeller just _bypassed_ the entire legal system | Feb 25 13:20 |
Diablo-D3 | I mean, it went beyond just manipulation | Feb 25 13:20 |
MinceR | that article paints an extremely optimistic picture of this parody of a country :> | Feb 25 13:20 |
Diablo-D3 | that was dark arts voodoo shit | Feb 25 13:20 |
cubezzz | Standard Oil was broken up though | Feb 25 13:20 |
cubezzz | so such luck with Microsoft so far | Feb 25 13:21 |
cubezzz | one wonders how many more years the OEMs will be under Microsoft's control | Feb 25 13:22 |
Diablo-D3 | they arent really | Feb 25 13:22 |
Diablo-D3 | the OEMs just want to sell computers | Feb 25 13:23 |
Diablo-D3 | soon as windows doesnt sell, microsoft no longer has customers | Feb 25 13:23 |
Diablo-D3 | this whole LOL MICROSOFT TAX shit is kind of dumb | Feb 25 13:23 |
MinceR | and being forced to sell them only with winblows helps them to sell computers how? | Feb 25 13:23 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they arent | Feb 25 13:23 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: so you haven't heard of their modus operand? | Feb 25 13:23 |
MinceR | s/\?/i?/ | Feb 25 13:23 |
cubezzz | Diablo-D3, it's not. It's an automatic tax just about | Feb 25 13:23 |
Diablo-D3 | <dell> uh, yeah, hey bill? we're selling computers with linux on them. dude, dude, calm down, yelling on the phone is just going to give you a heart attack | Feb 25 13:23 |
cubezzz | no one is selling blank computers | Feb 25 13:24 |
MinceR | threatening OEMs with higher licensing prices if they dare ship other OSes? | Feb 25 13:24 |
MinceR | that too | Feb 25 13:24 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: that just means computers with windows on them sell for more than those with linux on them | Feb 25 13:24 |
Diablo-D3 | as the OEMs dont pay for that | Feb 25 13:24 |
Diablo-D3 | the end user does. | Feb 25 13:24 |
MinceR | anyone mentioning dell should look up how many machines dell offers with linux | Feb 25 13:24 |
Diablo-D3 | so microsoft is threatening the wrong person | Feb 25 13:24 |
MinceR | and get a fucking clue | Feb 25 13:24 |
cubezzz | I know, I know | Feb 25 13:25 |
MinceR | also, read up on internal m$ discussion about "whacking" dell | Feb 25 13:25 |
cubezzz | I researched it | Feb 25 13:25 |
Diablo-D3 | also | Feb 25 13:25 |
Diablo-D3 | to be fair | Feb 25 13:25 |
Diablo-D3 | who the fuck buys a computer anymore | Feb 25 13:25 |
MinceR | i do | Feb 25 13:25 |
cubezzz | everybody :) | Feb 25 13:25 |
Diablo-D3 | well stop being a faggot, MinceR | Feb 25 13:25 |
Diablo-D3 | go build your next one | Feb 25 13:25 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: go build a laptop? | Feb 25 13:25 |
MinceR | interesting idea | Feb 25 13:25 |
cubezzz | people want laptops, yeah | Feb 25 13:25 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: Ive done that before. | Feb 25 13:25 |
MinceR | i thought my ThinkPad W700 was heavy, but your plan can definitely top that | Feb 25 13:25 |
Diablo-D3 | you can buy barebones ones that have only the case/lid/whatever and the mobo installed | Feb 25 13:26 |
cubezzz | Acer sold a few models with Linux, not just one, so the OEM stranglehold isn't 100% but it's close to that | Feb 25 13:26 |
Diablo-D3 | they're blank, since they have no storage or memory or anything else | Feb 25 13:26 |
MinceR | perhaps if i order them from abroad and get no warranty (and possibly our Post steals the whole package), i can get a barebones laptop | Feb 25 13:26 |
MinceR | but it's unlikely | Feb 25 13:26 |
cubezzz | or just get the OEMs to sell laptops with no hard drive | Feb 25 13:26 |
cubezzz | simple enough | Feb 25 13:26 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: why do you even put up with your Pot? | Feb 25 13:26 |
Diablo-D3 | er, Post | Feb 25 13:26 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Watch people getting delirious at the sight of celebs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHF9DmCsuTc Priceless. | Feb 25 13:27 | |
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MinceR | Diablo-D3: most people here probably don't know how shitty it is | Feb 25 13:27 |
Diablo-D3 | so burn the place down | Feb 25 13:27 |
Diablo-D3 | thats how you deal with corrupt assholes | Feb 25 13:27 |
Diablo-D3 | they're criminals anyhow | Feb 25 13:27 |
Diablo-D3 | whats a few less? | Feb 25 13:27 |
MinceR | too many places to burn down, too few military forces to protect me while doing so | Feb 25 13:27 |
MinceR | i'd be glad to kill criminal assholes all over the planet if i could, but i can't | Feb 25 13:27 |
cubezzz | "The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1911 that antitrust law required Standard Oil to be broken into smaller, independent companies. Among the "baby Standards" that still exist are ExxonMobil and Chevron. If not for that court ruling, Standard Oil would be worth more than $1 trillion today." | Feb 25 13:29 |
cubezzz | 41 years to breakup | Feb 25 13:30 |
MinceR | back then antitrust laws were actually enforced | Feb 25 13:31 |
cubezzz | Microsoft is 35 years old | Feb 25 13:31 |
cubezzz | the thing I don't understand is they broke up AT&T but they didn't break up Microsoft | Feb 25 13:33 |
cubezzz | somehow they managed to avoid it | Feb 25 13:33 |
MinceR | yeah, $omehow | Feb 25 13:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Mb1oZZ1iE | Feb 25 13:34 |
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schestowitz | kentma: ta!! | Feb 25 13:34 |
MinceR | i thought the swine flu was gone already | Feb 25 13:35 |
DaemonFC | omg | Feb 25 13:35 |
DaemonFC | Fedora is hostign Delta ISOs on The Pirate Bay | Feb 25 13:36 |
DaemonFC | epic | Feb 25 13:36 |
cubezzz | that's what torrents are for :) | Feb 25 13:36 |
DaemonFC | http://thepiratebay.org/user/andre14965/ | Feb 25 13:37 |
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MinceR | and who's this andre14965? | Feb 25 13:37 |
DaemonFC | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_13_Alpha_RC3_Install#What_To_Test | Feb 25 13:38 |
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DaemonFC | click "downloading delta ISO images" | Feb 25 13:38 |
MinceR | ic | Feb 25 13:38 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA video of the European Parliament's discussion yesterday in INTA (Microsoft WMV video format on an EU website!!!): http://i5.be/aw0 | Feb 25 13:39 | |
DaemonFC | I'd just think that Red Hat legal dept would shit themselves over that | Feb 25 13:39 |
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schestowitz | zoobab: got off versions? | Feb 25 13:41 |
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phIRCe-BNc | Hello World! | Feb 25 13:41 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The dutch ACTA leak translated in english: http://i5.be/aw1 | Feb 25 13:44 | |
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schestowitz | zoobab: thanks for the videos, I'm watching them now. Any ogg? | Feb 25 13:47 |
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schestowitz | zoobab: if you can put ogg versions in the ffii webspace, then I can embed as <Video> | Feb 25 13:51 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] http://stopsoftwarepatents.eu does not respond, python eating all the server memory? | Feb 25 13:59 | |
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oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/robothespian/ This is different | Feb 25 14:05 |
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cubezzz | ah, now I feel better | Feb 25 14:16 |
cubezzz | my blood sugar level was too low | Feb 25 14:16 |
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schestowitz | zoobab: I'll post as Flash | Feb 25 14:40 |
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phIRCe-BNc | Hello World! | Feb 25 14:40 |
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pawel_111 | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/microsoft-cryptome/ | Feb 25 14:42 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @zoobab: ACTA video of the European Parliament's discussion yesterday in INTA (In an open format OGG): http://i5.be/aw2 | Feb 25 14:47 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] E começa com o Vital Moreira a falar... | Feb 25 14:47 | |
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schestowitz | pawel_111: yes, I heard | Feb 25 14:48 |
schestowitz | It's no longer too exclusive an item | Feb 25 14:48 |
schestowitz | But I'll write about it later | Feb 25 14:48 |
cubezzz | just other reason not to use Microsoft anything | Feb 25 14:51 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Video: #ACTA Lies and Secrecy Exposed in the EU http://ur1.ca/ni7i thanks, @zoobab !! #corruption #cartel #whitecollarcrime | Feb 25 14:53 | |
cubezzz | don't rely on these web based things | Feb 25 14:53 |
schestowitz | I know | Feb 25 14:54 |
schestowitz | this fits well w/ the news | Feb 25 14:54 |
schestowitz | Microsoft using lobbyists to attack Google over "privacy" | Feb 25 14:54 |
schestowitz | Heh. | Feb 25 14:54 |
pawel_111 | schestowitz: ok, I was afk | Feb 25 15:00 |
cubezzz | trusting closed source is ridiculous anyways | Feb 25 15:01 |
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FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: right, the strangehold is not quite 100%, but the thing is, MS doesn't tolerate less than absolute control. they don't see why ANYONE should escape their boot | Feb 25 15:18 |
FurnaceBoy | stranglehold* | Feb 25 15:18 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: this absolutism is probably an outgrowth of Gates' personal psychoses | Feb 25 15:19 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: imagine a mafia town | Feb 25 15:19 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: 18 stores pay protection, two don't | Feb 25 15:20 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: you think Microsoft^W the mafia have any reason to tolerate that? | Feb 25 15:20 |
cubezzz | There is no absolutism :) | Feb 25 15:20 |
FurnaceBoy | of course not. they obsess about the two and will attack them until they pay | Feb 25 15:20 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: of course, absolutism is insane. but that's how Gates and Microsoft operate | Feb 25 15:20 |
FurnaceBoy | you see? the mafia is an accurate guide to Microsoft operations | Feb 25 15:21 |
FurnaceBoy | there's no real difference except scale | Feb 25 15:21 |
FurnaceBoy | the mafia knows that to survive, they have to corrupt and infiltrate institutions | Feb 25 15:21 |
FurnaceBoy | so does microsoft | Feb 25 15:21 |
FurnaceBoy | because obviously their whole modus operandum is outside the law | Feb 25 15:21 |
FurnaceBoy | so the law is Microsoft+Gates' natural enemy | Feb 25 15:22 |
FurnaceBoy | you have to neutralise it | Feb 25 15:22 |
FurnaceBoy | which, for now, they have succeeded in doing. | Feb 25 15:22 |
cubezzz | the EU fine was actually 1.4 Billion | Feb 25 15:23 |
cubezzz | or more, if you add all the fines together | Feb 25 15:23 |
cubezzz | I like to think about the pre-windows era | Feb 25 15:23 |
cubezzz | it wasn't an overnight takeover | Feb 25 15:24 |
cubezzz | it was more like creeping death :) | Feb 25 15:24 |
cubezzz | now we have creeping life | Feb 25 15:25 |
cubezzz | a slow improvement over time | Feb 25 15:25 |
cubezzz | it's not like Microsoft has just started with their media horsebleep | Feb 25 15:25 |
FurnaceBoy | they're ramping it up | Feb 25 15:26 |
FurnaceBoy | they're getting more desperate because the writing is on the wall | Feb 25 15:26 |
FurnaceBoy | likewise, their opposition has to keep the pressure on | Feb 25 15:26 |
FurnaceBoy | it's a war | Feb 25 15:26 |
FurnaceBoy | because they are a totalitarian organisation, they cannot co-exist | Feb 25 15:27 |
FurnaceBoy | with ordinary competition | Feb 25 15:27 |
cubezzz | they'll exist in a reduced form | Feb 25 15:27 |
FurnaceBoy | perhaps | Feb 25 15:27 |
FurnaceBoy | that depends | Feb 25 15:27 |
cubezzz | college kids, a lot of them anyway, they know about things to a greater degree than I did at their age | Feb 25 15:28 |
cubezzz | at least they _should_ with all the information flying around | Feb 25 15:28 |
FurnaceBoy | oh, everybody "should".. | Feb 25 15:28 |
FurnaceBoy | i think this OEM issue shoudl really be the main focus | Feb 25 15:28 |
cubezzz | and they should pick up GNU/Linux faster than I did as it gets easier and easier to use | Feb 25 15:28 |
FurnaceBoy | MS is out of antitrust court for now | Feb 25 15:29 |
FurnaceBoy | somebody should launch a massive challenge to the MS tax -- a class action might be warranted soon | Feb 25 15:29 |
FurnaceBoy | that has to disappear | Feb 25 15:29 |
cubezzz | I should also point out there was nothing like boycottnovell years ago | Feb 25 15:29 |
FurnaceBoy | groklaw has been around for a while now | Feb 25 15:29 |
cubezzz | no one was challenging the orthodoxy with the same degree of energy | Feb 25 15:29 |
FurnaceBoy | right | Feb 25 15:29 |
FurnaceBoy | but... we need bigger guns. who's going to shut off the OEM faucet? | Feb 25 15:30 |
cubezzz | the 90's was the rise of doze | Feb 25 15:30 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Feb 25 15:30 |
FurnaceBoy | they thrived on excess and waste | Feb 25 15:30 |
FurnaceBoy | those days are over | Feb 25 15:30 |
FurnaceBoy | the world can't afford that crap | Feb 25 15:30 |
cubezzz | well, people like you and me I guess :) | Feb 25 15:30 |
cubezzz | everyone has some influence | Feb 25 15:30 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: it looks to me like the OEM issue has to be shut down by courts | Feb 25 15:31 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: it has the marks of a good class action | Feb 25 15:31 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: the class of harmed people is HUGE, almost everyone who ever bought a pc | Feb 25 15:31 |
FurnaceBoy | that said, i'm not a lawyer... | Feb 25 15:31 |
FurnaceBoy | i just can't imagine anything smaller doing much | Feb 25 15:31 |
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cubezzz | make all the contracts public, some good Samaritan will do it :) | Feb 25 15:31 |
cubezzz | a leak here, a leak there | Feb 25 15:32 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Feb 25 15:32 |
FurnaceBoy | wikileaks | Feb 25 15:32 |
FurnaceBoy | whistleblowers | Feb 25 15:32 |
FurnaceBoy | that's about the only way cracks form in criminal orgs like MS, Bush admin, etc | Feb 25 15:32 |
cubezzz | TVO does a bunch of that too | Feb 25 15:32 |
cubezzz | stuff you never see on American TV | Feb 25 15:32 |
FurnaceBoy | that's why the mafia likes to do a lot of stuff by word of mouth. microsoft same. threats, soft bribes | Feb 25 15:33 |
FurnaceBoy | it's weird how they keep leaving paper trails | Feb 25 15:33 |
FurnaceBoy | Comes | Feb 25 15:33 |
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cubezzz | there's always going to be crime | Feb 25 15:34 |
FurnaceBoy | it must really burn them that groklaw is archiving Comes. that must never disappear | Feb 25 15:34 |
cubezzz | and drugs and stuff like that | Feb 25 15:34 |
cubezzz | I think BN has that too | Feb 25 15:34 |
FurnaceBoy | BN can't disappear either :) | Feb 25 15:35 |
cubezzz | just stick the whole works in a big tar.gz and put it on the net | Feb 25 15:35 |
FurnaceBoy | yes, GL should be doing that | Feb 25 15:35 |
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cubezzz | see, in the 90's I didn't feel anything about Microsoft that was well-defined | Feb 25 15:36 |
wispygalaxy | happy thursday! | Feb 25 15:36 |
cubezzz | it was more like a vague resentment | Feb 25 15:36 |
wispygalaxy | hi cubezzz | Feb 25 15:36 |
cubezzz | hello wispygalaxy :) | Feb 25 15:36 |
wispygalaxy | classes are canceled for today! | Feb 25 15:36 |
wispygalaxy | its snowing | Feb 25 15:37 |
wispygalaxy | the bad thing was that i walked all the way to class only to see that it was canceled | Feb 25 15:37 |
cubezzz | my assignment never ends :) | Feb 25 15:37 |
wispygalaxy | how's work? ;) | Feb 25 15:37 |
cubezzz | it's about 50 research and 50 boring | Feb 25 15:38 |
cubezzz | % | Feb 25 15:38 |
wispygalaxy | is it in the computer field | Feb 25 15:38 |
cubezzz | mostly yes | Feb 25 15:39 |
wispygalaxy | do you know where roy's at? | Feb 25 15:40 |
cubezzz | he was here just a while ago | Feb 25 15:40 |
wispygalaxy | ok thx | Feb 25 15:40 |
wispygalaxy | he wasnt here when i came here last time | Feb 25 15:40 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: in the 90s there was no strong Linux or strong Apple. Microsfot ramps up the violence in proportion to the threat. | Feb 25 15:41 |
wispygalaxy | hi FB | Feb 25 15:41 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: ola | Feb 25 15:41 |
cubezzz | it was a bad time | Feb 25 15:41 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: little bit of snow here too. maybe an inch yesterday, inch today... | Feb 25 15:41 |
wispygalaxy | are we talking about the good old days of MS? | Feb 25 15:41 |
cubezzz | even the 80s were better | Feb 25 15:41 |
wispygalaxy | even the fashion? :P | Feb 25 15:41 |
cubezzz | there were no good old days :) | Feb 25 15:41 |
FurnaceBoy | ugh | Feb 25 15:41 |
*FurnaceBoy is not a fan of the '80s | Feb 25 15:41 | |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: yes | Feb 25 15:41 |
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cubezzz | you know I'm an 80s dude still :) | Feb 25 15:42 |
wispygalaxy | my sisters are currently obsessed with 80s fashion... theyll grow out of it | Feb 25 15:42 |
wispygalaxy | haha | Feb 25 15:42 |
Diablo-D3 | http://rickrolldb.com/ | Feb 25 15:42 |
FurnaceBoy | in the 80s I was foaming at the mouth over Reagan, Thatcher, and the cold war was like a wet blanket over everything | Feb 25 15:42 |
cubezzz | 80's had Amiga | Feb 25 15:42 |
FurnaceBoy | about the only thing great that I can think of from that decade was Neville Brody ;-) | Feb 25 15:42 |
FurnaceBoy | well, and the Mac | Feb 25 15:43 |
wispygalaxy | were computers back then easier to hack? | Feb 25 15:43 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: depends | Feb 25 15:43 |
cubezzz | they were easier to program | Feb 25 15:43 |
cubezzz | no hidden stuff back then | Feb 25 15:43 |
FurnaceBoy | everything was much simpler. | Feb 25 15:43 |
wispygalaxy | i thought because there were less parts involved | Feb 25 15:43 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: yes | Feb 25 15:43 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: that's very true | Feb 25 15:43 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: you could learn every subsystem on a micro | Feb 25 15:43 |
cubezzz | less people program for fun now I think | Feb 25 15:44 |
wispygalaxy | i heard that inside cars, there's a lot of software... it makes it harder for mechanics to work | Feb 25 15:44 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: the code of your program could fill ram. | Feb 25 15:44 |
wispygalaxy | now coding is job for many people | Feb 25 15:44 |
cubezzz | lol, yeah like on Vic-20? :) | Feb 25 15:44 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: yeah nobody has time to play :| | Feb 25 15:44 |
wispygalaxy | but FOSS still is fun for many coders | Feb 25 15:44 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: yes it is | Feb 25 15:44 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: i unwind from 'work' by hacking on F/OSS | Feb 25 15:44 |
cubezzz | the learning curve is steeper now | Feb 25 15:45 |
wispygalaxy | that's good- unwinding and volunteering at the same time :) | Feb 25 15:45 |
wispygalaxy | yes, there are fancier languages now, makes learning more complicated | Feb 25 15:45 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: yeah /. had a story on car computer use this week. 70-100 microprocessors, 100 million LOC in a luxury car | Feb 25 15:45 |
schestowitz | Hey, wispygalaxy | Feb 25 15:45 |
wispygalaxy | hi roy! | Feb 25 15:45 |
wispygalaxy | just saw you on COLA | Feb 25 15:45 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: I sorta distrust those numbers. I wonder what's in a basic car. | Feb 25 15:45 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: yeah it is | Feb 25 15:45 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: on the other hand, we have higher abstractions | Feb 25 15:45 |
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FurnaceBoy | Omar87: ola | Feb 25 15:46 |
wispygalaxy | have you ever worked on a car? | Feb 25 15:46 |
Omar87 | FurnaceBoy, oh, hi! | Feb 25 15:46 |
cubezzz | I stopped using cars | Feb 25 15:46 |
wispygalaxy | hey omar | Feb 25 15:46 |
Omar87 | Howdy everyone. | Feb 25 15:46 |
cubezzz | now I cab or walk or public transit | Feb 25 15:46 |
wispygalaxy | thats going green :D | Feb 25 15:46 |
Omar87 | wispygalaxy, hey! | Feb 25 15:46 |
wispygalaxy | i currently dont have a bike... i think my sister took it haha | Feb 25 15:47 |
cubezzz | it's like FurnaceBoy said, we have to be more efficient about things nowadays | Feb 25 15:47 |
wispygalaxy | some people think that being efficient means that you have to restrict yourself | Feb 25 15:47 |
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phIRCe-BNc | Hello World! | Feb 25 15:47 |
wispygalaxy | howdy! | Feb 25 15:48 |
wispygalaxy | but i think efficiency can lead to easier ways of doing stuff | Feb 25 15:48 |
schestowitz | [15:45] <wispygalaxy> just saw you on COLA | Feb 25 15:48 |
schestowitz | Yes, I'm catching up there ATM | Feb 25 15:48 |
wispygalaxy | now i see you here :) | Feb 25 15:48 |
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wispygalaxy | stay here, we like to talk with you | Feb 25 15:48 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: I don't own a car either, and don't plan to. | Feb 25 15:49 |
schestowitz | OK,np | Feb 25 15:49 |
wispygalaxy | ;D | Feb 25 15:49 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: then you are not "normal" | Feb 25 15:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you don't know that half of it | Feb 25 15:49 |
FurnaceBoy | the* | Feb 25 15:49 |
schestowitz | You have to behave more like an average invidual from the Wes | Feb 25 15:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: right, I am not. | Feb 25 15:49 |
cubezzz | here is the Cola I like: | Feb 25 15:49 |
cubezzz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink) | Feb 25 15:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: nearly all of my choices are marginal. | Feb 25 15:49 |
schestowitz | Increase the scale of your habitat | Feb 25 15:49 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: OpenCola (drink) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 42.97 KB | Feb 25 15:49 |
schestowitz | Buy things | Feb 25 15:49 |
schestowitz | Even if you don't need them | Feb 25 15:49 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: :) | Feb 25 15:49 |
schestowitz | You need to buy things | Feb 25 15:49 |
wispygalaxy | i didnt know opencola existed | Feb 25 15:49 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Moglen: Whatever happens on Bilski, someone will try to go to Congress to change the law: http://i5.be/aw5 | Feb 25 15:50 | |
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schestowitz | To fill your habitat with artificial objects | Feb 25 15:50 |
cubezzz | you can save a ton of cash using Open :) | Feb 25 15:50 |
schestowitz | It gives Chinese children labour | Feb 25 15:50 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: trickle down! | Feb 25 15:50 |
schestowitz | Make them happy, they sauy......... | Feb 25 15:50 |
wispygalaxy | open foods are good for health conscious people who need to know *everything* that goes into food | Feb 25 15:50 |
schestowitz | Dine in restaurants | Feb 25 15:50 |
schestowitz | "They like to serve you," they say | Feb 25 15:50 |
cubezzz | open pizza... | Feb 25 15:50 |
wispygalaxy | but they spit in your food, thats not serving you :( | Feb 25 15:50 |
cubezzz | I don't think anyone does that yet though | Feb 25 15:50 |
cubezzz | well... | Feb 25 15:51 |
schestowitz | wispygalaxy: or bath in the sink | Feb 25 15:51 |
wispygalaxy | that would be funny, printing the "code" for pizza on the box | Feb 25 15:51 |
schestowitz | There was this story in Burger Kind IIRC | Feb 25 15:51 |
schestowitz | Very funny | Feb 25 15:51 |
wispygalaxy | tell me! | Feb 25 15:51 |
cubezzz | I could never make my burgers taste like McDonalds :) | Feb 25 15:51 |
cubezzz | which was a good thing | Feb 25 15:51 |
wispygalaxy | that's a relief! | Feb 25 15:52 |
FurnaceBoy | :) | Feb 25 15:52 |
FurnaceBoy | they might have actually been worth eating then! | Feb 25 15:52 |
schestowitz | "Excuse me sir, how many architectures does this pizza support?" | Feb 25 15:52 |
wispygalaxy | haha! | Feb 25 15:52 |
FurnaceBoy | corporations have no business making food | Feb 25 15:52 |
schestowitz | Service guy: RTFM, bugger off! | Feb 25 15:52 |
cubezzz | the problem with pizza is it's greasy | Feb 25 15:52 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I own quite a few SPARC pizza boxes... a NeXT slab pizza box... | Feb 25 15:52 |
wispygalaxy | corps only care about money, not your tastebuds | Feb 25 15:52 |
cubezzz | I tried veggie pizza, but I didn't like it | Feb 25 15:53 |
schestowitz | There's s/w called Cheese | Feb 25 15:53 |
wispygalaxy | lol roy, wonder if you could kach the pizza code ;P | Feb 25 15:53 |
wispygalaxy | hack* | Feb 25 15:53 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: right | Feb 25 15:53 |
schestowitz | mix the cheese with MinceR and you have some very delicious pizza with condiments on top | Feb 25 15:53 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: you'd think that would be *obvious* wouldn't you.. | Feb 25 15:53 |
schestowitz | wispygalaxy will provide her star dust | Feb 25 15:53 |
wispygalaxy | lol | Feb 25 15:53 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: we have the most wonderful organic pizza restaurant here. best i ever had... | Feb 25 15:53 |
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schestowitz | Magic pixie stuff... | Feb 25 15:54 |
cubezzz | should I mention I used to eat at SquareBoys? :) | Feb 25 15:54 |
wispygalaxy | veggie pizza is good sometimes (tomatoes) | Feb 25 15:54 |
FurnaceBoy | yes they have a wide range of vegetarian | Feb 25 15:54 |
wispygalaxy | organic food is gaining popularity... that's a good thing | Feb 25 15:54 |
FurnaceBoy | at one time, all food was "organic" | Feb 25 15:54 |
schestowitz | Kramer: "a place where you make you own PIZZA!!" | Feb 25 15:54 |
FurnaceBoy | it's the other kind that is perverse | Feb 25 15:54 |
wispygalaxy | true | Feb 25 15:54 |
cubezzz | it makes me wonder what the heck we were eating before though, inorganic? :) | Feb 25 15:55 |
schestowitz | They give you the cow, the butcher knife, and the flour | Feb 25 15:55 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: there are specific principles | Feb 25 15:55 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: one is, abandon poisons | Feb 25 15:55 |
wispygalaxy | factory made food has a lot of inorganic stuff that falls into the food | Feb 25 15:55 |
schestowitz | The hard part is making the cheese before ahem,... making the beef | Feb 25 15:55 |
wispygalaxy | the "beef" | Feb 25 15:55 |
wispygalaxy | its not even real meat | Feb 25 15:55 |
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schestowitz | Water-injected? | Feb 25 15:56 |
FurnaceBoy | http://www.magicoven.com/ <-- great organic pizza in TO | Feb 25 15:56 |
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wispygalaxy | yum | Feb 25 15:56 |
schestowitz | Be careful of BGH-infected beef by the way | Feb 25 15:56 |
schestowitz | It gives you cancer | Feb 25 15:56 |
wispygalaxy | get organic pizza | Feb 25 15:56 |
schestowitz | Someone mailed me about it a while ago | Feb 25 15:56 |
schestowitz | It's Monsanto killing many people | Feb 25 15:56 |
schestowitz | With the drugs they passed through with corruption and back-room deal | Feb 25 15:56 |
wispygalaxy | i dont trust mailed food | Feb 25 15:57 |
schestowitz | See the testimonies from Canada | Feb 25 15:57 |
schestowitz | The FDA is to currupt | Feb 25 15:57 |
FurnaceBoy | Aspartame | Feb 25 15:57 |
schestowitz | I wouldn't eat beef and maybe drink milk in Florida | Feb 25 15:57 |
schestowitz | As I have | Feb 25 15:57 |
FurnaceBoy | everything you need to know about the FDA is in the Aspartame story | Feb 25 15:57 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: phosphate problems in FL | Feb 25 15:57 |
schestowitz | I never heard of it | Feb 25 15:57 |
wispygalaxy | i drank mily today, is that bad? | Feb 25 15:57 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: incidents of cow herds dropping dead through fluorine poisoning. etc. | Feb 25 15:57 |
schestowitz | Maybe it's good... for the FDA | Feb 25 15:57 |
wispygalaxy | milk* | Feb 25 15:57 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Google does NOT have a Monopoly http://tinyurl.com/yl9h8vm | Feb 25 15:58 | |
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schestowitz | wispygalaxy: depends where it comes from | Feb 25 15:58 |
wispygalaxy | i think it came from NJ | Feb 25 15:58 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: FL has traditionally a phosphate industry. leaves huge toxic waste ponds/mountains | Feb 25 15:58 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's a ticking time bomb | Feb 25 15:58 |
schestowitz | Monsanto lobbies not to have its poisoned flag | Feb 25 15:58 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that crap gets in the water table as usual | Feb 25 15:58 |
schestowitz | So you won't be able to tell by looking at the boxes at the supermarket | Feb 25 15:58 |
wispygalaxy | i have a private well at home | Feb 25 15:58 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the producers have corrupted the govt, EPA to turn a blind eye, as usual | Feb 25 15:58 |
schestowitz | They corrupt officials to ensure you can't tell | Feb 25 15:58 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it got so bad in the 50s/60s, | Feb 25 15:58 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that fluorine was drifting around and killing herds of animals | Feb 25 15:59 |
wispygalaxy | that's why open source food is good, it tells you where your food is coming from | Feb 25 15:59 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: so a bit like in China's ewaste centres | Feb 25 15:59 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: all the same stuff yes | Feb 25 15:59 |
schestowitz | 50% oft he world's computers... I used to think most were shipped to poison Africans | Feb 25 15:59 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: unregulated industries | Feb 25 15:59 |
schestowitz | Turns out China gets many too | Feb 25 15:59 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Feb 25 15:59 |
schestowitz | I guess in Africa it's burial | Feb 25 15:59 |
schestowitz | In China they recycle the, | Feb 25 15:59 |
schestowitz | *them | Feb 25 15:59 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I am sure Africans cook them for commodities too | Feb 25 15:59 |
schestowitz | No the casing | Feb 25 16:00 |
schestowitz | "Let them east mobos" | Feb 25 16:00 |
schestowitz | "Let them eat mobos" --Madam Melinda | Feb 25 16:00 |
schestowitz | Madame with the accent... | Feb 25 16:00 |
schestowitz | French | Feb 25 16:01 |
cubezzz | I stopped drinking milk | Feb 25 16:02 |
schestowitz | It ought to say on the packaing, "made in China, used in the West, burned/buried in the Black Continent" | Feb 25 16:02 |
wispygalaxy | you need your calcium cubezzz! how do you get it? | Feb 25 16:02 |
cubezzz | soy beverage :) | Feb 25 16:02 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: careful, you'll expose the incredible cynicism of the West | Feb 25 16:03 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: not to mention racism | Feb 25 16:03 |
wispygalaxy | ah yes, soy products :) | Feb 25 16:03 |
wispygalaxy | have you used soy milk on cereal? | Feb 25 16:03 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Globalisation is the continuation of colonialism | Feb 25 16:03 |
cubezzz | ok, some historian needs to tell me, how well off were people 200 years ago? | Feb 25 16:03 |
cubezzz | like in Africa? | Feb 25 16:03 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's USA's reinvention of itself as a past colony usurping the imperial role :) | Feb 25 16:03 |
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cubezzz | I've always wondered about that... | Feb 25 16:04 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I don't give a | Feb 25 16:04 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: many lived sustainably | Feb 25 16:04 |
wispygalaxy | i do recall that for some countries in africa, the standard of living has dropped since the 1950s | Feb 25 16:04 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: no, France too | Feb 25 16:04 |
schestowitz | Don't blame the US | Feb 25 16:04 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: that's true rather widely | Feb 25 16:04 |
cubezzz | yeah that's what I figured | Feb 25 16:04 |
schestowitz | It used to be EUrope | Feb 25 16:04 |
cubezzz | and deserts were a lot smaller too I think | Feb 25 16:04 |
schestowitz | Haiti was abused by France, not just the US | Feb 25 16:04 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Feb 25 16:05 |
schestowitz | wispygalaxy: dropped? No way! | Feb 25 16:05 |
schestowitz | Now they work in oil/coal mines! | Feb 25 16:05 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I'm not denying that. just that globalisation is the USA-centric mutation of colonialism | Feb 25 16:05 |
schestowitz | Back then they were "unemployed" | Feb 25 16:05 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: AHHAHAHA | Feb 25 16:05 |
schestowitz | Hunting food in the savana | Feb 25 16:05 |
schestowitz | Now they are semi-attached to machines | Feb 25 16:05 |
schestowitz | Corproration will own all the land one day | Feb 25 16:06 |
FurnaceBoy | grist to the only game in town- multinational theft | Feb 25 16:06 |
wispygalaxy | like industrial workers in the 1800s attached to machines | Feb 25 16:06 |
schestowitz | It's even starting to happen in Mongolia now | Feb 25 16:06 |
schestowitz | The locals are being urbanised | Feb 25 16:06 |
FurnaceBoy | yes | Feb 25 16:06 |
schestowitz | The rural life in also dying in California | Feb 25 16:06 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you saw Burtynsky, then? | Feb 25 16:06 |
cubezzz | I'm becoming more curious about the pre-industrial age | Feb 25 16:06 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: those shots of shanghai redevelopment were tragic | Feb 25 16:06 |
schestowitz | They segment the small farms which go bankrupt and then buy off the land or lease it to another victim | Feb 25 16:06 |
wispygalaxy | its too bad that natives in various countries are forced to modernize because the government tells them too | Feb 25 16:06 |
schestowitz | I saw a good UC documentary about it last month | Feb 25 16:07 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: Gates Foundation ;-) | Feb 25 16:07 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: all the same bandwagon | Feb 25 16:07 |
wispygalaxy | :( | Feb 25 16:07 |
wispygalaxy | the nwo? | Feb 25 16:07 |
FurnaceBoy | doesn't matter what you *call* it | Feb 25 16:07 |
wispygalaxy | big brother? | Feb 25 16:07 |
FurnaceBoy | just study what it *does* | Feb 25 16:07 |
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FurnaceBoy | *is doing* | Feb 25 16:07 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Gates Foundation invests in this | Feb 25 16:07 |
cubezzz | Ireland had a period of starvation in the 18th century | Feb 25 16:07 |
schestowitz | BP and Shell | Feb 25 16:07 |
schestowitz | Or Texaco | Feb 25 16:07 |
wispygalaxy | potato famie? | Feb 25 16:07 |
wispygalaxy | famine | Feb 25 16:08 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: RT @perusio According to this http://ur1.ca/niil Portugal is one the countries supporting the secrecy in #ACTA | Feb 25 16:08 | |
schestowitz | They profit from theft of Nigeria oil | Feb 25 16:08 |
cubezzz | so I know everything wasn't great back then | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | They take it to the west | Feb 25 16:08 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: hehe | Feb 25 16:08 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: that's an oversimplification, though. | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | I once know the daughter of a guy who also 'stole' Nigeria's fishery | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | he committed suicide | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | Not before becoming a big millionaire | Feb 25 16:08 |
cubezzz | monoculture = bad :) | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | And buying a football team | Feb 25 16:08 |
Diablo-D3 | 'stole' | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | Yes | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | Stole | Feb 25 16:08 |
Diablo-D3 | nigeria. who borders no watter. | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | That's where "Stole" means stole | Feb 25 16:08 |
Diablo-D3 | has a fishery. | Feb 25 16:08 |
schestowitz | And there is real piracy there too | Feb 25 16:09 |
wispygalaxy | and we're not just talking about software... | Feb 25 16:09 |
Diablo-D3 | pirates. on boats. and there is no water there. | Feb 25 16:09 |
Diablo-D3 | LAND PIRATES | Feb 25 16:09 |
schestowitz | Hollywood are wussy people adopting words they don't understand | Feb 25 16:09 |
schestowitz | They don't know famine | Feb 25 16:09 |
FurnaceBoy | +1 | Feb 25 16:09 |
schestowitz | They whine about 9/11 but not darfour | Feb 25 16:09 |
schestowitz | It's polically incorrect to even say this | Feb 25 16:09 |
wispygalaxy | congo has a big problem too | Feb 25 16:09 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: only dead white americans matter | Feb 25 16:09 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you missed a memo? | Feb 25 16:10 |
schestowitz | Things like, "forget 9/11, there were 60 9/11 just not in Haiti" | Feb 25 16:10 |
schestowitz | But the supposition it's hinged on is that their lives are worthless (or close to worthless) | Feb 25 16:10 |
FurnaceBoy | +1 | Feb 25 16:10 |
schestowitz | Outcome: less bananas | Feb 25 16:10 |
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schestowitz | congo too | Feb 25 16:11 |
FurnaceBoy | 2nd Outcome: corporates take charge of the banana industry | Feb 25 16:11 |
schestowitz | UI didn't forget | Feb 25 16:11 |
schestowitz | the gangs rape the women, then shoot them to death on the genitalia | Feb 25 16:11 |
schestowitz | Not much more pleasant for men | Feb 25 16:11 |
schestowitz | See Constant Gardner | Feb 25 16:11 |
schestowitz | Quite shocking | Feb 25 16:11 |
schestowitz | it also shows how Gates' darling, the 'medical' industry (drugs) commits a massive murder there | Feb 25 16:12 |
schestowitz | It's a western film | Feb 25 16:12 |
wispygalaxy | and they also have to deal with AIDS | Feb 25 16:12 |
wispygalaxy | in congo | Feb 25 16:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's a pity you don't read paper books. I'd recommend "The Politics of Cruelty" by Kate Millett | Feb 25 16:12 |
schestowitz | But there are accurate details to be taken from this portntial propaganda | Feb 25 16:12 |
schestowitz | British rule in Africa circo 70s | Feb 25 16:12 |
schestowitz | *circa | Feb 25 16:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: I've seen that film. It's about as close as Hollywood dares to come to reality | Feb 25 16:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: which isn't terribly close, ever | Feb 25 16:12 |
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schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: normalising the unthinkable.. | Feb 25 16:12 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that's their usual role, yes. | Feb 25 16:12 |
wispygalaxy | many african countries gained independence within the past 50-60 years and were not given enough resources to succeed | Feb 25 16:13 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: revising, revising | Feb 25 16:13 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: that film preyed in my mind longer than most | Feb 25 16:13 |
schestowitz | Several days | Feb 25 16:13 |
schestowitz | My mom told me not to watch it | Feb 25 16:13 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: soon we shall see some Hiroshima/Nagasaki stories from Hollywood | Feb 25 16:13 |
schestowitz | Cause it depressed her too for a while, so she warned me | Feb 25 16:13 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's almost time, nearly enough ppl who know the truth are gone | Feb 25 16:13 |
schestowitz | Na... | Feb 25 16:13 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they can wallpaper over the whole thing with celluloid | Feb 25 16:13 |
schestowitz | Revisionism | Feb 25 16:13 |
schestowitz | Maybe they'll do there what they do to Arbs | Feb 25 16:13 |
schestowitz | Portray the "Japs" as people in tents riding camels with RPGs. | Feb 25 16:14 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: ha | Feb 25 16:14 |
schestowitz | And brave SilversteRambo will come to rescue the women | Feb 25 16:14 |
schestowitz | *silvest | Feb 25 16:14 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Hiroshima is due for revision in the USA given the new pro-nuclear-weapons agenda | Feb 25 16:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The session "Intro to Python for programmers" has started. #ubuntu | Feb 25 16:15 | |
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schestowitz | What's that\? | Feb 25 16:15 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's an inconvenient truth that is ripe for distortion | Feb 25 16:15 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: obama is building more nukes and increasing budgets for nuke research (Los Alamos) | Feb 25 16:15 |
FurnaceBoy | biggest increase since the Manhattan Project | Feb 25 16:15 |
schestowitz | Yes | Feb 25 16:15 |
schestowitz | Obama... | Feb 25 16:15 |
schestowitz | New face | Feb 25 16:16 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Please tell your british friends/family to support this petition for #ACTA details to be made public - http://bit.ly/b0a4Bj (via @glynmoody) | Feb 25 16:16 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] (NL) weet iemand wanneer de nieuwe Linuxmagazine uitkomt (Maart?). Heb zooo genoten van het jubileum nummer. | Feb 25 16:16 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Check it out in Lernid or at #ubuntu-classroom on freenode | Feb 25 16:16 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | After Some Reflection | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/yhnxgjy | Feb 25 16:16 | |
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phIRCe-BNc | Title: Petition to: Make public the details and text of the ACTA agreement, its our internet, our WWW. | Number10.gov.uk .::. Size~: 13.11 KB | Feb 25 16:16 |
schestowitz | Better than Bush's | Feb 25 16:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: After Some Reflection | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 10.33 KB | Feb 25 16:16 |
schestowitz | But just a face mosly | Feb 25 16:16 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Palin is even better, feminise death | Feb 25 16:16 |
schestowitz | Doesn't project "I'm fighting for Jesus" | Feb 25 16:16 |
schestowitz | He's more like "We're multicultural" | Feb 25 16:16 |
schestowitz | The same people run the same policies through though | Feb 25 16:16 |
schestowitz | And anyone clueful has seen it by now | Feb 25 16:16 |
FurnaceBoy | and healthy, not some hereditary imbecile alcoholic with the taint of "fake Texan royalty" | Feb 25 16:16 |
schestowitz | Few exceptions, very few | Feb 25 16:16 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ... Laat maar, zie net dat een abbo spot goedkoop is.... | Feb 25 16:17 | |
FurnaceBoy | so yes, Obama is very useful diversion | Feb 25 16:17 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: can you imagine those banners of Joker with Palin's face in them? | Feb 25 16:17 |
FurnaceBoy | even fooled Daemon | Feb 25 16:17 |
schestowitz | Hehe | Feb 25 16:17 |
schestowitz | He shilled for him | Feb 25 16:17 |
schestowitz | House to house | Feb 25 16:17 |
schestowitz | I LMAOed | Feb 25 16:17 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: oh, you should read the COMMENTS on that missile defence logo thread i tweeted | Feb 25 16:17 |
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schestowitz | And he feltt embarrassed | Feb 25 16:17 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: one guy had that joker thing as an avatar | Feb 25 16:17 |
schestowitz | It's like when you put a lot into a relationship with a girl and it blows up | Feb 25 16:18 |
FurnaceBoy | hrhrhrrhr | Feb 25 16:18 |
schestowitz | Then you want your time back | Feb 25 16:18 |
schestowitz | That's DaemonRyan and his b/f Obama | Feb 25 16:18 |
schestowitz | Go to Youtube see the Obama PR | Feb 25 16:18 |
schestowitz | It's alll about my.obama.suffix | Feb 25 16:18 |
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schestowitz | MY ME MEMEMEME! | Feb 25 16:18 |
schestowitz | He's US! | Feb 25 16:18 |
schestowitz | He is also U.S.! | Feb 25 16:19 |
schestowitz | There are those tuned | Feb 25 16:19 |
schestowitz | Like ObamaGirl | Feb 25 16:19 |
schestowitz | And all kinds of PR 101 stuff | Feb 25 16:19 |
FurnaceBoy | celebrity culture | Feb 25 16:19 |
schestowitz | I fidn that amusing now | Feb 25 16:19 |
schestowitz | Anyway.... | Feb 25 16:19 |
FurnaceBoy | Ronald Reagan was the masterstroke. | Feb 25 16:19 |
FurnaceBoy | how did anyone NOT get the joke? | Feb 25 16:19 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Arrianna has a new boyfriend: http://skepticblog.org/2010/02/23/dinner-with-bill-gates/ | Feb 25 16:20 |
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schestowitz | Watch her siting next to PEarly | Feb 25 16:20 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: aaaaaaaaaargh | Feb 25 16:20 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: my outrage meter is in the red zone... | Feb 25 16:20 |
schestowitz | She can help him seed influence | Feb 25 16:20 |
schestowitz | Though I'm sure he has Murdoch as a friend too | Feb 25 16:20 |
schestowitz | Recall the anti-Google Murdoch deal they both negotiated | Feb 25 16:20 |
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schestowitz | Don't worry about it | Feb 25 16:21 |
schestowitz | No need for anger, mate | Feb 25 16:21 |
schestowitz | Melinda French is OK with it | Feb 25 16:21 |
FurnaceBoy | this is more outrage than anger | Feb 25 16:21 |
FurnaceBoy | anger is what i get talking to ole D | Feb 25 16:21 |
FurnaceBoy | outrage is what real crime brings out | Feb 25 16:21 |
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schestowitz | Bill Gates says, "I love Arianna for advertising, I do kids with you, Frenchy" | Feb 25 16:21 |
FurnaceBoy | D's harmless, as long as he never uses that thing | Feb 25 16:22 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Ronald Reagan was the masterstroke / How did anyone NOT get the joke? | Feb 25 16:22 | |
schestowitz | Then Melinda shows him she can advertise too | Feb 25 16:22 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: mental image .. you just goatse'd us | Feb 25 16:22 |
schestowitz | She does it in WashPost | Feb 25 16:22 |
schestowitz | BTW... | Feb 25 16:22 |
schestowitz | Huffington also glorified Gates Sr. last year | Feb 25 16:22 |
FurnaceBoy | dynastic marriage | Feb 25 16:22 |
schestowitz | Maybe they have family dinner, I dunno :-) | Feb 25 16:22 |
schestowitz | Cross-breeding " elites" j/k... :-) | Feb 25 16:23 |
FurnaceBoy | HP is off my reading list | Feb 25 16:23 |
schestowitz | I'm just totally joking now.. | Feb 25 16:23 |
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schestowitz | I'll stop her | Feb 25 16:23 |
schestowitz | her | Feb 25 16:23 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: well, that's how it has historically worked. | Feb 25 16:23 |
schestowitz | >here | Feb 25 16:23 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the concept of entities which survive an individual lifespan is always hovering here. | Feb 25 16:23 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: this ties directly in to notions of corporation | Feb 25 16:24 |
schestowitz | Did you know Chinese women lust for Gates' sperm the most? | Feb 25 16:24 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: you probably have to play marriage/procreative tricks to really pull that off. | Feb 25 16:24 |
schestowitz | It means PR worked | Feb 25 16:24 |
schestowitz | THere was a survey around 2007 | Feb 25 16:24 |
schestowitz | They want Gates' DNA/blood | Feb 25 16:24 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that is what we can learn from historical aristocracy | Feb 25 16:24 |
schestowitz | Which I find absurd | Feb 25 16:24 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: British Queen is German, etc | Feb 25 16:24 |
schestowitz | Can you imagine women lining up to have sex with Unabomber when he's freed | Feb 25 16:24 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: if the Brits had insisted on an Anglo line, they may not exist now | Feb 25 16:24 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Gut, staat er ook bij: 5 maart.. Zzzzz. | Feb 25 16:25 | |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the interbreeding racket may be a necessary complement to the legal/business racket | Feb 25 16:25 |
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Ender2070 | +1 | Feb 25 16:25 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: which is why we will always have dynastic unions | Feb 25 16:25 |
FurnaceBoy | Adam Giambrone HAHAHAHAHAHA | Feb 25 16:25 |
schestowitz | Joined interests | Feb 25 16:25 |
FurnaceBoy | yes. | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | My cousin, your grandpa,, etc. | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | Alignment of... | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | Well... | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | There's this good film on genetic | Feb 25 16:26 |
Ender2070 | the interbreeding racket helped invent the legal/business racket | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | On why people help one another | Feb 25 16:26 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: but the KEY concept here, i suspect, is prolonged survival of an abstract entity | Feb 25 16:26 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: like the gene outlives an individual (Dawkins) | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | Some expedition to the Amazon studies this | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | They studied tribes | Feb 25 16:26 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: yes | Feb 25 16:26 |
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schestowitz | Where there is incest and all | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | They found the people with common blood help each other | Feb 25 16:26 |
schestowitz | Something genetic | Feb 25 16:26 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes this has been proven | Feb 25 16:27 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: by many studies | Feb 25 16:27 |
schestowitz | Not just the reciprocisy things we understand in developed society | Feb 25 16:27 |
schestowitz | I don't know if the same experiments were repeated on animals | Feb 25 16:27 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Dawkins again (The Selfish Gene), and reproduced annually by others | Feb 25 16:27 |
Ender2070 | the interbreeding racket is also racist and follows eugenics | Feb 25 16:27 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: somebody needs to write the book, "The Selfish Corporation". (you?)_ | Feb 25 16:27 |
schestowitz | Oh, BTW: | Feb 25 16:27 |
schestowitz | OT, I know, but... | Feb 25 16:27 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: yes. forced breeding occurs in aristocracies | Feb 25 16:28 |
schestowitz | Clinton's daughter just married a GoldmanSachser | Feb 25 16:28 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: perfect example | Feb 25 16:28 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Feb 25 16:28 |
wispygalaxy | im not surprised | Feb 25 16:28 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: that's forward planning | Feb 25 16:28 |
schestowitz | No need for theories of conspiracies much.. | Feb 25 16:28 |
FurnaceBoy | +1 | Feb 25 16:28 |
FurnaceBoy | exactly. | Feb 25 16:28 |
schestowitz | "it's all in the family" as the saying goes | Feb 25 16:28 |
Ender2070 | darwin's family is part of that too | Feb 25 16:28 |
Ender2070 | funny enough | Feb 25 16:28 |
schestowitz | The grandson of Darwin is still around in this field | Feb 25 16:29 |
schestowitz | But I think they keep a low profile, though | Feb 25 16:29 |
schestowitz | Lowest profile that I know is would be Rothschild dynasty | Feb 25 16:29 |
Ender2070 | yeah except for Charles Galton-Darwin | Feb 25 16:29 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: well, sort of. | Feb 25 16:29 |
schestowitz | It's as though they went underground | Feb 25 16:29 |
Ender2070 | he openly talks about stuff | Feb 25 16:29 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they were documented decades ago | Feb 25 16:29 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: The Unseed Hand, etc | Feb 25 16:29 |
schestowitz | David Rockefeller is still seen in public sometimes | Feb 25 16:29 |
FurnaceBoy | Unseen* | Feb 25 16:29 |
schestowitz | And then there's London bankers too | Feb 25 16:29 |
schestowitz | But they rarely speak to the press | Feb 25 16:30 |
schestowitz | Evelyn?? IIRC | Feb 25 16:30 |
schestowitz | Well, anyway, Obama is the public figure now | Feb 25 16:30 |
schestowitz | The image of "America" | Feb 25 16:30 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the spokesman | Feb 25 16:30 |
schestowitz | That's fine | Feb 25 16:30 |
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schestowitz | But I hope the aggression stopas | Feb 25 16:30 |
schestowitz | That'll just incrase racism | Feb 25 16:30 |
schestowitz | A lot of blacks think acceptance will rise because of the nomination and election, but there is also the downside of the raving racists | Feb 25 16:31 |
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schestowitz | He fuels their fears and theories, which are baseless | Feb 25 16:31 |
Ender2070 | hey | Feb 25 16:31 |
Ender2070 | its not always true | Feb 25 16:31 |
Ender2070 | even some of the biggest racists are giving him the benefit of the doubt | Feb 25 16:32 |
FurnaceBoy | of course | Feb 25 16:32 |
schestowitz | Politicians suck up to Gates because they want to be in the higher level | Feb 25 16:32 |
schestowitz | Where they don't have to speak publicly before congress | Feb 25 16:32 |
Ender2070 | i would have voted for him too if i was american | Feb 25 16:32 |
schestowitz | They just fund parties and have parties | Feb 25 16:32 |
Ender2070 | but im not sure if i would re-elect him | Feb 25 16:32 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: that's the problem with a 2-party system. | Feb 25 16:32 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: both candidates were controlled | Feb 25 16:32 |
schestowitz | And act as fronts to the really powerful corps like Novartis | Feb 25 16:32 |
Ender2070 | yes | Feb 25 16:32 |
Ender2070 | thats the truth | Feb 25 16:32 |
FurnaceBoy | Ender2070: it didn't matter who you voted for, you lose. Same in 2000 | Feb 25 16:33 |
Ender2070 | it doesnt matter who gets in, we can't vote for the lobbyists | Feb 25 16:33 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: not entirely true | Feb 25 16:33 |
schestowitz | Bush was more extreme | Feb 25 16:33 |
FurnaceBoy | the lobbyists are increasingly unnecessary | Feb 25 16:33 |
schestowitz | ANd his gang stole the election | Feb 25 16:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: same backers | Feb 25 16:33 |
schestowitz | Not exactly | Feb 25 16:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: they just changed style for a while not to make it too obvious | Feb 25 16:33 |
schestowitz | They have different investors, with alignment | Feb 25 16:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: back in full force | Feb 25 16:33 |
schestowitz | The oil lobby is now betting more on GOP | Feb 25 16:33 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Bush's nuke people said they were jealous of Obama's budget hike for nukes | Feb 25 16:33 |
schestowitz | So the reckoning is that Obama's failure will have him lose in 2 years | Feb 25 16:34 |
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schestowitz | Then the rampage and raping of the world can be womanised | Feb 25 16:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: and nothing better will come of that | Feb 25 16:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: yes | Feb 25 16:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: precisely | Feb 25 16:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: where do they go after Palin? maybe a cute little baby.. | Feb 25 16:34 |
Ender2070 | Obama also followed Bush's DOJ backing to keep the AT&T vs EFF lawsuit down | Feb 25 16:34 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: President Trig! | Feb 25 16:34 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: I guess | Feb 25 16:34 |
schestowitz | Anyway, it's like violent love | Feb 25 16:35 |
schestowitz | Afghanistan wants intercourse, gets Tomahawk instead | Feb 25 16:35 |
FurnaceBoy | Predator | Feb 25 16:35 |
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schestowitz | "Punish us, Sarah" | Feb 25 16:35 |
FurnaceBoy | a rose by any other name would kill just as many civilians | Feb 25 16:36 |
Ender2070 | lol | Feb 25 16:36 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: a WOMAN is writing in the NYT that not enough Afghan civilians are dying | Feb 25 16:36 |
Ender2070 | remember that article that showed 7 terrorists killed, 600 civilians killed | Feb 25 16:36 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: no coincidence | Feb 25 16:36 |
Ender2070 | from drone attacks | Feb 25 16:36 |
Diablo-D3 | [11:28:34] <schestowitz> Afghanistan wants intercourse, gets Tomahawk instead | Feb 25 16:36 |
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wispygalaxy | where is that article, roy? | Feb 25 16:36 |
Diablo-D3 | I dunno, Afghan-tan is a little young for my tastes | Feb 25 16:37 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: people won't like to be abused by other men (RushCheneyCain); if a women does that it feels different | Feb 25 16:38 |
schestowitz | But anyway, it's all speculative | Feb 25 16:38 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there's nothing speculative that women are being positioned in the media calling for more death | Feb 25 16:38 |
schestowitz | The US never had a female president and I reckon religiousness contriuted to this | Feb 25 16:38 |
schestowitz | wispygalaxy: which one? | Feb 25 16:38 |
ianto | schestowitz: Christanity praises Mary as the third most holy figure after Jesus & God... | Feb 25 16:39 |
schestowitz | FurnaceBoy: Pelosi? | Feb 25 16:39 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: men seem to get aroused when Palin talks about nuking {Iran, <insert your country here>} | Feb 25 16:39 |
schestowitz | ianto: but as a mother | Feb 25 16:39 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Pelosi. Perino. This Booz-Allen stooge in the NYT. Palin. etc. | Feb 25 16:39 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: French. | Feb 25 16:39 |
schestowitz | Then bible has hardly any female leaders | Feb 25 16:39 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there's an article in it. | Feb 25 16:39 |
Diablo-D3 | I think I should go world wide | Feb 25 16:39 |
schestowitz | Maternal is not authority | Feb 25 16:39 |
Diablo-D3 | and offer my dick to any woman who really needs it | Feb 25 16:39 |
schestowitz | Paternal is | Feb 25 16:39 |
wispygalaxy | schestowitz: the article where the woman says that not enough civilians are dying | Feb 25 16:39 |
Diablo-D3 | it would be a humanitarian mission of the grandest scale | Feb 25 16:40 |
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schestowitz | Matrnal is protectionist | Feb 25 16:40 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: these are all spokeswomen | Feb 25 16:40 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: btw | Feb 25 16:40 |
Diablo-D3 | to be fair | Feb 25 16:40 |
Diablo-D3 | if I ever needed warriors | Feb 25 16:40 |
Diablo-D3 | I'd only go with women | Feb 25 16:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: it's pure misdirection strategy | Feb 25 16:40 |
Diablo-D3 | women can kill without a second thought | Feb 25 16:40 |
schestowitz | Joan D'arc [spelling] | Feb 25 16:40 |
wispygalaxy | i think twice about it! | Feb 25 16:40 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: they don't | Feb 25 16:40 |
schestowitz | Bush didn't kill | Feb 25 16:40 |
FurnaceBoy | present company excepted | Feb 25 16:40 |
wispygalaxy | im kinda squeamish | Feb 25 16:40 |
schestowitz | He gave signatures | Feb 25 16:40 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: there is some validity to this position | Feb 25 16:40 |
schestowitz | Or orders | Feb 25 16:40 |
schestowitz | Hitler may have actually killed | Feb 25 16:41 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: they can. | Feb 25 16:41 |
schestowitz | He was in artillery in WW1 | Feb 25 16:41 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: jail is good enough for Bush | Feb 25 16:41 |
schestowitz | Bush was a chickenhawd | Feb 25 16:41 |
Diablo-D3 | I think the only people who have a right to kill are the ones who can also give life. | Feb 25 16:41 |
schestowitz | He killed doobies in the coast guard | Feb 25 16:41 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: I know what you are talking about | Feb 25 16:41 |
Diablo-D3 | its also the same way I'd never have a female politician or whatever | Feb 25 16:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Bush is made for jail. the idiot son who got mixed up in things over his head. lock him in the attic, save face. | Feb 25 16:42 |
wispygalaxy | i have to leave now, see you later! | Feb 25 16:42 |
Diablo-D3 | women cant do it | Feb 25 16:42 |
FurnaceBoy | wispygalaxy: ciao | Feb 25 16:42 |
Diablo-D3 | they dont quite grasp how to lie, cheat, and steal so efficiently | Feb 25 16:42 |
wispygalaxy | bye bye! | Feb 25 16:42 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: Leona Helmsley | Feb 25 16:42 |
schestowitz | McCain killed | Feb 25 16:42 |
schestowitz | wispygalaxy: cya soon :-) | Feb 25 16:42 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Palin shoots | Feb 25 16:42 |
schestowitz | McCain ("Cane Cane, naughty boy!!" | Feb 25 16:43 |
wispygalaxy | bye roy, ill try to be on cola later today :) | Feb 25 16:43 |
schestowitz | <Cool. | Feb 25 16:43 |
wispygalaxy | take care!! | Feb 25 16:43 |
FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: Palin is the hottie from the aircraft decal | Feb 25 16:43 |
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FurnaceBoy | schestowitz: the hot home-chick the soldier dreams of while banging a Cong child | Feb 25 16:43 |
Diablo-D3 | FurnaceBoy: notice she got caught | Feb 25 16:43 |
Diablo-D3 | FurnaceBoy: a man would have never got caught | Feb 25 16:43 |
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Diablo-D3 | FurnaceBoy: Im not being sexist, btw | Feb 25 16:45 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: I know | Feb 25 16:45 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: I've seen this concept before. There *is* a difference | Feb 25 16:45 |
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FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: i've seen it in literature occasionally | Feb 25 16:45 |
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Diablo-D3 | women and men are different, each have roles they excel at | Feb 25 16:46 |
Diablo-D3 | us men, we do things our way | Feb 25 16:46 |
Diablo-D3 | women do things their way | Feb 25 16:46 |
Diablo-D3 | lawyers, businessmen, etc, thats a man's job | Feb 25 16:46 |
Diablo-D3 | raising children, killing people, thats a woman's job. | Feb 25 16:46 |
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Diablo-D3 | actually, I think the ability to ruthlessly kill people comes out of the ability to raise children | Feb 25 16:47 |
FurnaceBoy | perhaps | Feb 25 16:47 |
Diablo-D3 | those with strong maternal instinct will want to protect their children | Feb 25 16:47 |
Diablo-D3 | no matter if they actually have any or not | Feb 25 16:47 |
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Diablo-D3 | now, Im not saying there arent brilliant female lawyers and busineswomen | Feb 25 16:48 |
Diablo-D3 | but they come along very very rarely | Feb 25 16:48 |
cubezzz | it's the guys that kill though | Feb 25 16:48 |
Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: ironic, no? | Feb 25 16:49 |
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Diablo-D3 | and we all fuck it up | Feb 25 16:49 |
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Diablo-D3 | we have all that honor shit | Feb 25 16:49 |
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Diablo-D3 | and all those rules | Feb 25 16:49 |
cubezzz | there's no female Gates equivalent | Feb 25 16:49 |
Diablo-D3 | there is a female gates equivalent | Feb 25 16:49 |
Diablo-D3 | and I do believe hes married to her | Feb 25 16:49 |
cubezzz | lol | Feb 25 16:49 |
FurnaceBoy | hrhr | Feb 25 16:49 |
Diablo-D3 | shes just as ruthless and business smart as he is | Feb 25 16:49 |
FurnaceBoy | yes, she's in charge when he croaks | Feb 25 16:49 |
FurnaceBoy | she'll pass to the descendants | Feb 25 16:50 |
FurnaceBoy | the keys to the criminal empire | Feb 25 16:50 |
Diablo-D3 | FurnaceBoy: in theory, there is nothing wrong with this | Feb 25 16:50 |
Diablo-D3 | I'd rather know who my enemies are | Feb 25 16:50 |
cubezzz | there's no way Gates' kids will be as bad as he is | Feb 25 16:50 |
FurnaceBoy | yes. she's a spokeswoman. again, like the mafia, you have "people who are in the public eye" and have no rap sheet | Feb 25 16:50 |
cubezzz | here's hoping anyway | Feb 25 16:50 |
FurnaceBoy | then you have the ones who work in the dark. | Feb 25 16:50 |
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FurnaceBoy | call it privilege separation | Feb 25 16:51 |
FurnaceBoy | firewalling | Feb 25 16:51 |
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Diablo-D3 | anyhow | Feb 25 16:51 |
Diablo-D3 | as I was saying | Feb 25 16:51 |
Diablo-D3 | lets say I become rich and powerful | Feb 25 16:51 |
Diablo-D3 | each and every one of my bodyguards will be women | Feb 25 16:51 |
FurnaceBoy | put the woman under the spotlight, she doesn't have the taint of Gates' thousands of court appearances | Feb 25 16:51 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: HOT women | Feb 25 16:51 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: :) | Feb 25 16:51 |
Diablo-D3 | very hot women | Feb 25 16:51 |
cubezzz | Octopussy? :) | Feb 25 16:51 |
Diablo-D3 | because in that sort of work, looks are also a weapon, if but a subtle one | Feb 25 16:52 |
FurnaceBoy | not Octomom, that's for sure. | Feb 25 16:52 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: yes | Feb 25 16:52 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: Palin has nothing else, really. Looks, and an ability to take orders. | Feb 25 16:52 |
Diablo-D3 | she doesnt have looks | Feb 25 16:52 |
Diablo-D3 | you couldnt pay me to hit that. | Feb 25 16:52 |
FurnaceBoy | and i don't even see any attractiveness, but I have standards.. | Feb 25 16:52 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: nor moe | Feb 25 16:52 |
Diablo-D3 | well, with a bat, sure | Feb 25 16:52 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: nor me* | Feb 25 16:52 |
cubezzz | I don't understand the fascination with Palin | Feb 25 16:52 |
FurnaceBoy | she's hideous, to my eyes | Feb 25 16:52 |
Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: shes the current focal point of hate towards the republican party | Feb 25 16:52 |
Diablo-D3 | her time will pass soon, Im just not sure who to | Feb 25 16:52 |
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FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: and the focal point of its fans, too | Feb 25 16:53 |
cubezzz | seems to be a bit clueless though :) | Feb 25 16:53 |
Diablo-D3 | FurnaceBoy: you know what the problem is? | Feb 25 16:53 |
Diablo-D3 | the facial expressions | Feb 25 16:53 |
cubezzz | unless it's an act | Feb 25 16:53 |
Diablo-D3 | and her eyes | Feb 25 16:53 |
Diablo-D3 | she never can look normal | Feb 25 16:53 |
Diablo-D3 | she always has these wild looks on her face | Feb 25 16:53 |
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cubezzz | I mean if you run for vice-president you should know a bit about what the job entails | Feb 25 16:53 |
Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: I know what it entails | Feb 25 16:53 |
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FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: she's started having plastic surgery | Feb 25 16:53 |
Diablo-D3 | dont fuck up, keep your mouth shut. | Feb 25 16:53 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: she's looking more an more like a cabbage patch kid | Feb 25 16:54 |
Diablo-D3 | FurnaceBoy: urgh. | Feb 25 16:54 |
Diablo-D3 | nothx | Feb 25 16:54 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: watch the pics change | Feb 25 16:54 |
Diablo-D3 | her cheeks are too high too, btw | Feb 25 16:54 |
cubezzz | there's a term for it... disassociation is the word | Feb 25 16:54 |
Diablo-D3 | but see, I'd hire, I think, quite a few asians, and a few black women | Feb 25 16:54 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: plastic surgery will ruin her face in a few years | Feb 25 16:54 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: get some brazilian ex-cops | Feb 25 16:54 |
cubezzz | as in disassociation from reality :) | Feb 25 16:54 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: Rio has female cops. | Feb 25 16:54 |
Diablo-D3 | FurnaceBoy: oooh some of them | Feb 25 16:54 |
Diablo-D3 | and I think some germans. | Feb 25 16:55 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: the elites use women | Feb 25 16:55 |
Diablo-D3 | and a few swedes | Feb 25 16:55 |
Diablo-D3 | and at least one of the women would have to be a heavy weapons expert. | Feb 25 16:55 |
Diablo-D3 | maybe the russian chick. | Feb 25 16:55 |
Diablo-D3 | since i'd have to have a russian chick | Feb 25 16:55 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: haha, i knew russian women who liked guns. hot too. | Feb 25 16:55 |
*Diablo-D3 would have to buy her a gattling gun | Feb 25 16:55 | |
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cubezzz | this is silly James Bond crap :) | Feb 25 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: yes | Feb 25 16:56 |
Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: I was thinking more team fortress 2. | Feb 25 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: ;-) | Feb 25 16:56 |
Diablo-D3 | a female, yet hot, Heavy. | Feb 25 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | Diablo-D3: Michelle Rodriguez | Feb 25 16:56 |
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cubezzz | don't forget some hot German Fräulein :) | Feb 25 16:56 |
Diablo-D3 | hmmmmmm | Feb 25 16:56 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: Merkel? | Feb 25 16:57 |
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Diablo-D3 | meh, I dunno. | Feb 25 16:57 |
cubezzz | predictions in 10 years? Microsoft marketshare? | Feb 25 16:57 |
cubezzz | 80%? 60%? | Feb 25 16:58 |
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Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: 0. | Feb 25 16:58 |
Diablo-D3 | since it'll be dead if it keeps going this way | Feb 25 16:58 |
cubezzz | it should be interesting, I'll keep the logs :) | Feb 25 16:58 |
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FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: it needs to be ~30 imho | Feb 25 16:59 |
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FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: failing that, zero | Feb 25 16:59 |
cubezzz | a world without Microsoft would be very interesting | Feb 25 16:59 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: 30 if they learn to compete. | Feb 25 16:59 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: if they don't learn to compete, they must be eliminated | Feb 25 16:59 |
FurnaceBoy | cubezzz: and i put little probability on them being able to compete | Feb 25 17:00 |
cubezzz | Gates would have moved on to some new monopoly by then | Feb 25 17:00 |
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FurnaceBoy | he moved on long ago | Feb 25 17:00 |
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FurnaceBoy | that's why roy is watching all his other tentacles so closely | Feb 25 17:00 |
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FurnaceBoy | ok later | Feb 25 17:00 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Going out for a long walk ;-). Will come back by 11.30 or something. I like walking in moon light \m/ sadly i can't eat ice creams today :( | Feb 25 17:17 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian -derived #SimplyMEPIS Has 8.5 Coming, #Knoppix 6.3 Highlighted http://ur1.ca/nj5f http://ur1.ca/nj5g | Feb 25 17:22 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware and #Linux Are Thriving in #Phones http://www.funambol.com/blog/capo/2010/02/better-lucky-than-smart.html | Feb 25 17:26 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Today Ubuntu Lucid Lynx (Alpha 3) will be released. Will go for Kubuntu. I don't like the way Gnome is heading. Dislike Gnome Shell :-( | Feb 25 17:26 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How to Make Money from #FreeSoftware and Proof That It Works http://www.itworld.com/open-source/97740/open-source-101-paying-free-software | Feb 25 17:39 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Rise of #Nginx and the Return of #Apache (Free Software) http://ur1.ca/nj8c http://ur1.ca/nj8e | Feb 25 17:40 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org Makes Good Education For Children, Works Well http://ur1.ca/ni82 http://ur1.ca/nj8l | Feb 25 17:42 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Uganda plans to execute its #gay population. Join #Avaaz campaign against the proposed law https://secure.avaaz.org/en/ugandan_voices/?vl | Feb 25 17:44 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Visa replied to my email criticising sponsorship of Beck. The problem is apparently on their radar. If you use #Visa, write them. @stopbeck | Feb 25 17:46 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at the Newly-released #PCBSD 8.0 http://ur1.ca/nj9a http://ur1.ca/nj9b #bsd | Feb 25 17:46 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Toyota Shows Why #Freedom of Software is Important (by Bad Example) http://ur1.ca/mwpl | Feb 25 17:47 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FSF Opposes #PublicDomain Strategies http://ur1.ca/n9qs http://ur1.ca/nc0u | Feb 25 17:56 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Openness/Freedom in #Hardware Sought by #Arduino http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/arduino-the-hardware-revolution/ | Feb 25 17:57 | |
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sebsebseb | Hi | Feb 25 17:57 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More Victories for #OpenAccess and Confirmation of Inevitability http://ur1.ca/njaz http://ur1.ca/njb0 | Feb 25 17:58 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Hungry. You know how hungry dogs in cartoons see people as big turkeys? That is happening to me right now as I type into this leg of lamb. | Feb 25 17:58 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Now a Political Advantage in Italian Government http://ur1.ca/njbf | Feb 25 18:01 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Patent Attorney Spills the Beans on Patents http://ur1.ca/njbk http://ur1.ca/njbl | Feb 25 18:02 | |
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schestowitz | bbl | Feb 25 18:26 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Bluefin tuna on verge of extinction? Tell Obama admin to act to save it: http://bit.ly/aOyuLK | Feb 25 18:42 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Enough is enough. Tell Washington to end massive mobile fees: http://bit.ly/bB8UO4 | Feb 25 18:42 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @ diablo-d3 Bluefin #tuna on verge of extinction? Tell Obama admin to act to save it: http://bit.ly/aOyuLK #fish #food #sustainability | Feb 25 18:43 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "If we can't save #tuna, we're unlikely to save any threatened #fish" Horrifying situation: http://bit.ly/aOyuLK Sign the petition (US only) | Feb 25 18:45 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] This new old keyboard from a pentium 3 compaq is at least half as heavy again as the late lamented ibm. Build quality? | Feb 25 18:46 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] I wonder if any software patent will help increase the quality of software in the way that we will be forced to look for better solutions. | Feb 25 18:49 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Chattting today with a bloke who used to work for intel, he agreed that they broke an agreement with amd and shafted them, fine normal cost | Feb 25 18:51 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] He also said that back in 2000 they were worried about ARM but it never amounted to anything , it is about to. | Feb 25 18:58 | |
bruce89 | http://www.hadess.net/2010/02/were-removing-settings-again.html | Feb 25 19:00 |
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MinceR | re | Feb 25 19:03 |
MinceR | i mean ew | Feb 25 19:03 |
MinceR | i suppose adding an "Advanced" tab or menu entry to apps never happened to anyone | Feb 25 19:03 |
bruce89 | it's to stop the sort of thing that occurred when that person was banned from bugzilla | Feb 25 19:05 |
MinceR | what was it? | Feb 25 19:06 |
bruce89 | someone said the usual "how dare you remove icons", and they were banned | Feb 25 19:08 |
bruce89 | http://leftyfb.com/?p=64 | Feb 25 19:08 |
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MinceR | had gnome not stuck to copying crApple at all costs, they wouldn't have removed icons in the first place | Feb 25 19:09 |
MinceR | they're really in love with jobs' idea of blaming all removal of functionality and dumbing down on "usability" and "user experience", things they know nothing about | Feb 25 19:10 |
bruce89 | biggest storm in a tea cup since the Pidgin GtkVPaned | Feb 25 19:11 |
MinceR | i'll just keep using KDE :> | Feb 25 19:11 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Massive poisoning of land&water supply by oil/gas industry? Not just in the Amazon- #USA too: http://bit.ly/brkBip #Gasland via @tomphilpott | Feb 25 19:42 | |
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Ender2070 | i just made my own fedora livecd | Feb 25 19:46 |
Ender2070 | it has kde 4.4 | Feb 25 19:46 |
bruce89 | that UKIP arsewipe is to be suspended | Feb 25 19:51 |
sebsebseb | bruce89: It seems you like this channel these days! | Feb 25 19:51 |
bruce89 | don't start | Feb 25 19:52 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] To get Choqok running with your GTK theme, sun as "choqok --style GTK+" | Feb 25 19:55 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Anyone know how to change the font size in Choqok outside of KDE? QT4 or QT3 config don't affect Choqok | Feb 25 20:05 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] From Kees (check it out @jameyjasta too) - Rammstein VS Cookie Monster - http://is.gd/9b9Q6 #comedygold | Feb 25 20:17 | |
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sebsebseb | _Goblin: alpha 3 has been released | Feb 25 20:19 |
sebsebseb | a little while ago by the way | Feb 25 20:19 |
_Goblin | sebsebseb: thanks I'll get it now....you've reminded me...I had forgotten | Feb 25 20:33 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: ok np :) | Feb 25 20:33 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] England football team, who cares it is only a game and worse a business, business and amorality go together like porcelain and skid marks | Feb 25 20:59 | |
schestowitz | kde4 and chromium get some very good word here: http://linuxbasement.com/content/lb-episode-50-milestone-debauchery-linux-basement-0 | Feb 25 21:01 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] England football team, who cares it is only a game and worse a business, business and amorality go together like porcelain and skid marks | Feb 25 21:02 | |
bruce89 | I suppose I best not mention the six nations here then | Feb 25 21:02 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @qu1j0t3 RT @ diablo-d3 Bluefin #tuna on verge of extinction? Tell Obama admin to act to save it: http://bit.ly/aOyuLK #fish | Feb 25 21:03 | |
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Ender2070 | the guy runs fedora 12 | Feb 25 21:04 |
schestowitz | bruce89: football?? | Feb 25 21:05 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: yes | Feb 25 21:05 |
cubezzz | ummm where do the wallpaper downloads go? | Feb 25 21:05 |
bruce89 | almost, rugby (football) | Feb 25 21:05 |
Ender2070 | some guy on the show you linked | Feb 25 21:05 |
schestowitz | Fedora has been good for several releases now | Feb 25 21:05 |
schestowitz | Feodra 9 was the mess IIRDC | Feb 25 21:05 |
schestowitz | Gave it bad reputation | Feb 25 21:05 |
cubezzz | odd | Feb 25 21:05 |
cubezzz | Fedora 10 was pretty good though | Feb 25 21:05 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: .kde/apps/share? | Feb 25 21:06 |
Ender2070 | 10,11,12 solid | Feb 25 21:06 |
cubezzz | I had to do a million upgrades on 12 before it worked right | Feb 25 21:06 |
Ender2070 | im loving 12 | Feb 25 21:06 |
Ender2070 | 11 and 12 have kde 4.4, its awesome | Feb 25 21:07 |
cubezzz | meh :) | Feb 25 21:07 |
cubezzz | I'm sure it's nice on newer hardware though | Feb 25 21:07 |
Ender2070 | its faster than 4.3.x | Feb 25 21:07 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Why hate icons? http://leftyfb.com/2010/02/24/gnome-hates-icons/ Heated discussion. | Feb 25 21:08 | |
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bruce89 | you can say that again | Feb 25 21:08 |
cubezzz | ah, there put in ~/.kde/share/wallpapers | Feb 25 21:08 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Is JeffM a troll or what? | Feb 25 21:10 | |
Ender2070 | chromium works well in kde too | Feb 25 21:10 |
Ender2070 | integrates nicely | Feb 25 21:10 |
cubezzz | I'm impressed with kradio and kaffeine | Feb 25 21:10 |
cubezzz | but I'd still like to get AM radio | Feb 25 21:10 |
Ender2070 | i LOVE okular | Feb 25 21:11 |
Ender2070 | kopete, konversation too | Feb 25 21:11 |
cubezzz | I lost a lot of range when I switched from VHF to UHF antenna | Feb 25 21:12 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Please @ACassiano831trt do not associate me with Torrent downloads. I have reported you for spam. | Feb 25 21:14 | |
cubezzz | torrents are fine | Feb 25 21:14 |
cubezzz | why are people so paranoid? | Feb 25 21:14 |
_Goblin | I know, its just 90% of them are unlawfull | Feb 25 21:14 |
cubezzz | always assuming bad things :) | Feb 25 21:14 |
_Goblin | I'd say if a torrent is being faciliated 9/10 chance its infriging copyright. | Feb 25 21:15 |
MinceR | the mafiaa likes to claim BitTorrent is only used for copyright infringement | Feb 25 21:15 |
_Goblin | I use Linux tracker, but I think the lawful trackers account for only a very small percentage of the total bt protocol | Feb 25 21:15 |
MinceR | i guess attacking an efficient method to distribute install images of FLOSS operating systems is just an added bonus to those criminals | Feb 25 21:15 |
cubezzz | I'd probably need to use torrent to get old source code | Feb 25 21:16 |
MinceR | also for the works of artists who didn't sign into slavery for a major label | Feb 25 21:16 |
_Goblin | MinceR: you probably have a point, but then as a justification for filesharing? I'd say the fight is for the artists if they feel hard done by. | Feb 25 21:17 |
cubezzz | why not ban youtube as well? You can see the problem... | Feb 25 21:17 |
_Goblin | we don't see Lily Allen tackling Mono's continued infestation..... | Feb 25 21:18 |
cubezzz | unless someone complains, it's got copyrighted material on there | Feb 25 21:18 |
_Goblin | youtube pays royalties...does it not? | Feb 25 21:18 |
MinceR | _Goblin: http://archive.salon.com/tech/feature/2000/06/14/love/ | Feb 25 21:18 |
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cubezzz | not sure | Feb 25 21:18 |
cubezzz | some of the stuff like 1970's kid shows I doubt it | Feb 25 21:19 |
_Goblin | you see I have no problem with people having the opinion that filesharing is ok....but.... | Feb 25 21:19 |
_Goblin | the justifications for it are very weak. | Feb 25 21:19 |
_Goblin | Price of goods? - Simple buy ex-rental or simply wait. | Feb 25 21:19 |
cubezzz | you see the 320x240 video, then go out and buy the DVD, it's win-win | Feb 25 21:19 |
MinceR | and surrender to the MAFIAA? | Feb 25 21:19 |
MinceR | help them sustain their abusive business models? | Feb 25 21:19 |
_Goblin | i wouldn't say its surrendering. | Feb 25 21:20 |
cubezzz | you never buy DVDs? | Feb 25 21:20 |
MinceR | cubezzz: i replied to _Goblin | Feb 25 21:20 |
_Goblin | since the MAFIAA makes its business from infringments, I'd say the best way to defeat them is not to do it.... | Feb 25 21:20 |
cubezzz | ooops, sorry :) | Feb 25 21:20 |
bruce89 | http://narf-archive.com/pix/835c62126ebb213b4bbd710732f4ac06c55c6fa9.jpg | Feb 25 21:21 |
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cubezzz | some stuff it's on the torrents | Feb 25 21:21 |
_Goblin | cubezzz: Ive no real interest in films, if a film does interest me, I will usually buy ex-rental from blockbusters, | Feb 25 21:21 |
cubezzz | it's = isn't | Feb 25 21:21 |
MinceR | i've bought DVDs when i needed to spend my culture vouchers :> | Feb 25 21:21 |
cubezzz | hmmm, how much is a used one? | Feb 25 21:21 |
_Goblin | I can get 3 films for 12.99 | Feb 25 21:22 |
MinceR | i also got some bundled with magazines | Feb 25 21:22 |
_Goblin | and they are not that old... | Feb 25 21:22 |
MinceR | one thing that can work is obtaining music via p2p and donating to the artists | Feb 25 21:22 |
_Goblin | Ive paid about £20 to get all the harry potters to date. | Feb 25 21:22 |
MinceR | also, a lot of the stuff you can get illegally via bittorrent there's no other way to get | Feb 25 21:23 |
MinceR | that's another thing the MAFIAA likes to ignore | Feb 25 21:23 |
cubezzz | well there's always collectors | Feb 25 21:24 |
cubezzz | someone could have some oddball recording on VHS then digitize it | Feb 25 21:24 |
cubezzz | I'm still looking for some SF stuff from the 70's | Feb 25 21:25 |
cubezzz | there was his guy who had telekenetic powers, and got his foot stuck in a railway track | Feb 25 21:27 |
cubezzz | can't remember the title though | Feb 25 21:27 |
cubezzz | he uses the power to cheat at pinball... | Feb 25 21:28 |
MinceR | :) | Feb 25 21:28 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Downloading Ubuntu Lucid Alpha 3... | Feb 25 21:29 | |
_Goblin | cubezzz: thats ringing a bell with me...can't remember the series either. | Feb 25 21:29 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst hard to tel... | Feb 25 21:30 | |
cubezzz | it was an electro-mechanical pinball machine if that helps :) | Feb 25 21:30 |
cubezzz | can't remember if it was a made-for-tv thing or a movie | Feb 25 21:30 |
_Goblin | it was a series wasnt it? | Feb 25 21:30 |
cubezzz | uh, not sure | Feb 25 21:30 |
cubezzz | there can't be too many telekenetic guys in movies cheating at pinball though :) | Feb 25 21:32 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Download completed,... | Feb 25 21:33 | |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: well as expected I am not impressed with Alpha 3 | Feb 25 21:39 |
sebsebseb | _Goblin: not installed into a virtual hard disk yet, but been doing Live Session in Virtualbox | Feb 25 21:39 |
sebsebseb | those social features which I have already seen, might be good once actsual accounts are set up to use them | Feb 25 21:40 |
bruce89 | certainlt might help | Feb 25 21:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] New Blog Post: "Proxies in The Way of Testing" http://bit.ly/9HF0tc | Feb 25 21:43 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: US builds "loving, caring" fortress in middle of London http://newstechnica.com/?p=1642 (yes, i wrote something at last) | Feb 25 21:47 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz OK, thanks | Feb 25 21:57 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Cuban international medical aid shamefully portrayed on bbc as cynical hearts and minds political ploy. | Feb 25 22:07 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Cuban international medical aid shamefully portrayed on bbc as cynical hearts and minds political ploy. | Feb 25 22:07 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Claimed to be Cheating in Web Browsers Ballot #odf http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/25/microsoft-ballot-disregards-issues/ | Feb 25 22:15 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Dry. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/29639.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/543335.html | Feb 25 22:25 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] How insulting, Danielson is a far better wrestler than most of the WWE roster, why should HE have to prove anything on Nxt? #wwe #roh #tna | Feb 25 22:30 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @webmink: Contact Your MEP! A very important issue is now open in the European Parliament. As former MEP David Hamme. http://bit.ly/bjaxfD | Feb 25 22:32 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 2X on “One of the Biggest #Security Vulnerabilities in the #Windows OS for Many Years” http://ur1.ca/nkgf | Feb 25 22:33 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Cuba and bbc scheduled coverage for a few days, so far so poor, mark urban is one of few people at the bbc that would have done a good job | Feb 25 22:34 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Cuba and bbc scheduled coverage for a few days, so far so poor, mark urban is one of few people at the bbc that would have done a good job | Feb 25 22:37 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Installing GIMP so I can edit a screenshot before uploading it to a bug report.. oh, finished installing before I typed this tweet.. | Feb 25 22:48 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Jannet street porter says she was an outrageous boss but not a bully, goes on to say gordon brown is (more or less) | Feb 25 22:48 | |
schestowitz | http://tribes.tribe.net/niceasatick/thread/59714727-dbb5-4914-978e-db1a87b36a27 "There are people that embrace Evil - that *believe* that Evil is good - because they believe it serves them. It's a surprising blend of the stupid and the deluded that we find here, but don't be fooled by their seeming incoherency; they are masters of stealing your stuff and not at all hampered, remember, by any scrap of decency or scruple" | Feb 25 22:48 |
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bruce89 | that UKIP idiot is on Question Time | Feb 25 22:48 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] She then goes on to defend margaret thatcher against charges of bullying. | Feb 25 22:49 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Ukip leader is on, farage must know he is in for a grilling about his behaviour in front of our parliament (eu) | Feb 25 22:52 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I am going to get a kicking for this bug report | Feb 25 22:54 | |
MinceR | http://www.theonion.com/content/news/latest_sarah_palin_speech_opens | Feb 25 22:54 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Peter Hain my first memory of him was on a pannel programme referring to uk citizens as subjects of the queen | Feb 25 22:55 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] porter seems to think bullying is a male only crime | Feb 25 22:58 | |
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bruce89 | why aren't you allowed to say "banana" on TV? | Feb 25 22:58 |
*DaemonFC is on his Wii :) | Feb 25 22:58 | |
DaemonFC | Bruce89: Because bananas are too hot for TV. You have to buy the DVD. Everyone knows that! :) | Feb 25 23:01 |
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bruce89 | wow, Question Time: Too Hot for TV sounds worryin | Feb 25 23:01 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] takes netbook off lap and worries a little about twitter. | Feb 25 23:02 | |
DaemonFC | It means there's gonna be boobs. And maybe bananas... | Feb 25 23:02 |
DaemonFC | off to play Madworld | Feb 25 23:03 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] netbook back on lap farage is coming under intense fire | Feb 25 23:04 | |
bruce89 | here he goes the plonker | Feb 25 23:04 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] last time i saw a question time like this it was nick griffin on | Feb 25 23:08 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] farage is the sort of bloke who will wake up tomorrow and tonight will be water from a ducks back, the most scary type of person | Feb 25 23:12 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] GIMP is overkill for me anyway, bring on Pinta! This is about my level http://bit.ly/b5jIzY | Feb 25 23:19 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Politician talking about belief in the free market, bless him. | Feb 25 23:20 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] haine looking at forage as if he is a little odd | Feb 25 23:22 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Lawrence Lessig is currently live http://ur1.ca/nklj #theora | Feb 25 23:22 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Wow, the Lawrence Lessig live video said Identica out loud :D #wireside | Feb 25 23:22 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @deathboyuk Facebook group to tell people NOT TO INVITE ME TO BULLSHIT FACEBOOK GROUPS FOR "FREE IPADS" and so forth. http://url.ie/57bm | Feb 25 23:25 | |
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schestowitz | Can anyone do me a small favour? | Feb 25 23:25 |
schestowitz | GIMPing in a face of Bush with a Microsoft exec? | Feb 25 23:25 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Then it all gets duller than you already think | Feb 25 23:28 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] and i missed south park | Feb 25 23:31 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Someone needs to get the cellphone away from the mic on #wireside | Feb 25 23:32 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Further to the @LinuxFoundation ’s implicit acceptance of #softwarepatents, we present another new dilemma http://ur1.ca/nknh | Feb 25 23:41 | |
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MinceR | can't they pursue both methods? | Feb 25 23:43 |
schestowitz | http://personal.erodov.com/vijayninel/other-stuff/ballmer.jpg | Feb 25 23:44 |
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MinceR | now that's just begging for pr0nifying :> | Feb 25 23:45 |
schestowitz | ok, done........ http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/250px-George-W-Bush.jpeg | Feb 25 23:49 |
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MinceR | ew | Feb 25 23:50 |
MinceR | not many will recognize that tongue :> | Feb 25 23:50 |
MinceR | (and by 'pursuing both methods' i mean amassing and pooling patents while lobbying for the elimination of sw patents) | Feb 25 23:51 |
MinceR | (and for the elimination of business process patents) | Feb 25 23:52 |
schestowitz | I know they won't recogmnise it | Feb 25 23:58 |
schestowitz | So I was going to put another one of Ballmer | Feb 25 23:58 |
schestowitz | MinceR: as RMS says, you can't go north by going east and west | Feb 25 23:59 |
MinceR | you can, however, lessen damage on the short term while working towards a long-term goal | Feb 25 23:59 |
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