-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just confirmed Simon Phipps (@webmink), who recently left Sun and is involved many governance projects for FLOSSWeekly next week! | Mar 12 00:00 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Now listening to The Agony Scene's 'The Darkest Red' | Mar 12 00:04 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just confirmed Dan Lopez (@dan_lopez) from the Linux Foundation and the guy behind linux.com and MuseAmp for FLOSSWeekly in two weeks! :-) | Mar 12 00:05 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA Faces Legal Threats After Collusion Exposed http://ur1.ca/p4g6 http://ur1.ca/pajw http://ur1.ca/pajx http://ur1.ca/pajy | Mar 12 00:12 | |
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bruce89 | nice | Mar 12 00:13 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: new logout dialogues hrm, well something to try in a vm at least | Mar 12 00:14 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Amazon 's Proof That the #USPTO is a Joke Persists http://ur1.ca/pak9 http://ur1.ca/paka http://ur1.ca/p3cj | Mar 12 00:14 | |
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bruce89 | I'm now worried over this whole HTC thing | Mar 12 00:16 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Just had a craptacular ebay/paypal experience, bought something on wrong account and had to send myself money from the other to pay with. | Mar 12 00:20 | |
DaemonFC | :P | Mar 12 00:20 |
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WireWulf | hmm xD | Mar 12 00:25 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Liferay Moves from MIT (X11) to #LGPL http://ur1.ca/palf | Mar 12 00:26 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenSSH 5.4 is Out http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20100309072751 | Mar 12 00:26 | |
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schestowitz | bruce89: `it's about Android | Mar 12 00:27 |
schestowitz | It's on tablets too | Mar 12 00:27 |
schestowitz | Competing with Apple's rubbish, aka iPad | Mar 12 00:27 |
bruce89 | obviously Apple don't like competition | Mar 12 00:28 |
schestowitz | See Sun story | Mar 12 00:28 |
schestowitz | Extortion | Mar 12 00:28 |
schestowitz | Since 2003 | Mar 12 00:28 |
schestowitz | With s/w patents | Mar 12 00:28 |
schestowitz | Against LINUX | Mar 12 00:28 |
schestowitz | BN will cover more Apple from now on | Mar 12 00:29 |
MinceR | \o/ | Mar 12 00:29 |
WireWulf | apple still sucks | Mar 12 00:29 |
bruce89 | #boycottapple | Mar 12 00:29 |
WireWulf | bruce89: nah i ama bottcott everything | Mar 12 00:30 |
WireWulf | *boycott | Mar 12 00:31 |
schestowitz | "Cannabis News (CannabisNews) is now following your tweets on Twitter. " | Mar 12 00:31 |
schestowitz | W00t? :-s | Mar 12 00:31 |
jono | schestowitz smokin' | Mar 12 00:31 |
WireWulf | omg pot heads | Mar 12 00:31 |
jono | :P | Mar 12 00:31 |
schestowitz | Never | Mar 12 00:31 |
schestowitz | I just got this and found it amusing | Mar 12 00:31 |
WireWulf | i may follow someone on twitter one day | Mar 12 00:32 |
WireWulf | <.< | Mar 12 00:33 |
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bruce89 | isn't that illegal | Mar 12 00:40 |
bruce89 | oh no, that's stalking | Mar 12 00:40 |
schestowitz | > Schest: What do you know about SourceForge being bloacked in certain | Mar 12 00:41 |
schestowitz | > non-US countries. Who got them put onto the list ? | Mar 12 00:41 |
schestowitz | Before you jump the gun, there are former Microsofters in SourceForge. | Mar 12 00:41 |
schestowitz | > Is the Microsoft product also blocked ? | Mar 12 00:41 |
schestowitz | > | Mar 12 00:41 |
schestowitz | > Come on, this deserves investigation ... | Mar 12 00:41 |
schestowitz | > | Mar 12 00:41 |
schestowitz | > http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/25/sourceforge-blocks-iran-north-korea-syria-sudan-and-cuba/ | Mar 12 00:41 |
schestowitz | ANothe code site (maybe Google's) received the same treatment. | Mar 12 00:41 |
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schestowitz | Why was CodePlex in the clear? | Mar 12 00:41 |
MinceR | what i remember is that sourceforge decided to enforce usian crypto export regulations | Mar 12 00:42 |
MinceR | by blocking access to all projects by default from countries where Jesusland forbids exporting strong crypto to | Mar 12 00:43 |
MinceR | and the idea was that projects with no such crypto would flag themselves and be unblocked | Mar 12 00:43 |
MinceR | (though this latter detail was added later, afaik) | Mar 12 00:43 |
MinceR | it's a pretty stupid move anyway | Mar 12 00:43 |
cubezzz | that won't stop anything | Mar 12 00:43 |
cubezzz | anyone with half a brain... :) | Mar 12 00:44 |
MinceR | ...uses Savannah, GitHub or something like that? :> | Mar 12 00:44 |
MinceR | (or hosts their own project page) | Mar 12 00:44 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just confirmed Sam Ramji (@sramji) from the Codeplex Foundation for FLOSSWeekly on 14th April :-) | Mar 12 00:44 | |
MinceR | what i don't get is why didn't they just host outside Jesusland | Mar 12 00:44 |
MinceR | jesuslandian crypto export regulations are useless and harmful anyway | Mar 12 00:45 |
cubezzz | I'm sure that's done | Mar 12 00:45 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: btw | Mar 12 00:46 |
Diablo-D3 | to be fair | Mar 12 00:46 |
Diablo-D3 | sourceforge had someone from the state department up their ass | Mar 12 00:46 |
MinceR | ic | Mar 12 00:46 |
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MinceR | perhaps it was a half-assed attack on FLOSS | Mar 12 00:46 |
Diablo-D3 | nope. | Mar 12 00:46 |
Diablo-D3 | it wasnt | Mar 12 00:46 |
MinceR | singling out the most popular of those hosting sites? | Mar 12 00:46 |
Diablo-D3 | it was republicans getting paranoid about 9/11 | Mar 12 00:46 |
MinceR | lol | Mar 12 00:46 |
Diablo-D3 | it was clearly political | Mar 12 00:47 |
cubezzz | people are naturally paranoid in general | Mar 12 00:47 |
MinceR | those retards should read up on what happened to PGP | Mar 12 00:47 |
cubezzz | even Linux folks :) | Mar 12 00:47 |
cubezzz | e.g. always assume the worst | Mar 12 00:48 |
cubezzz | everyone is out to "get" you | Mar 12 00:48 |
Diablo-D3 | which, btw, I think we should just start banning quite a few countries from sourceforge | Mar 12 00:49 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, The US government is now allowing service providers like Microsoft and Yahoo to offer their IM services in hostile countries like Iran | Mar 12 00:49 |
Diablo-D3 | if they can't pay us to export freedom, I'm not sure why we should bother | Mar 12 00:49 |
DaemonFC | you know people will just use Off The Record with Pidgin or something | Mar 12 00:49 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: you're starting to sound like DaemonFC on his worse days | Mar 12 00:49 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: what, making an especially funny joke? | Mar 12 00:50 |
MinceR | that was meant to be a joke? | Mar 12 00:50 |
cubezzz | lol | Mar 12 00:50 |
Diablo-D3 | I thought it was funny :< | Mar 12 00:50 |
MinceR | to be fair i started typing that answer after the first line | Mar 12 00:50 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 12 00:50 |
cubezzz | >:< | Mar 12 00:50 |
*MinceR wonders what that is | Mar 12 00:50 | |
MinceR | antenna? | Mar 12 00:51 |
Diablo-D3 | I dont think I want to know | Mar 12 00:51 |
cubezzz | sure :) | Mar 12 00:51 |
MinceR | butterfly antenna or whatever it's called | Mar 12 00:51 |
Diablo-D3 | it looks like your mother trying to goatse | Mar 12 00:51 |
MinceR | lol | Mar 12 00:51 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Unacceptable for Large Businesses and #Windows XP Still Not Secure http://ur1.ca/paq2 #microsoft #intel | Mar 12 01:08 | |
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schestowitz | I'm too tired... | Mar 12 01:10 |
schestowitz | Laters... | Mar 12 01:10 |
MinceR | gn | Mar 12 01:11 |
WireWulf | gn | Mar 12 01:12 |
WireWulf | <.< | Mar 12 01:12 |
WireWulf | >.> | Mar 12 01:12 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #lol + #python = #lolpython http://www.dalkescientific.com/writings/diary/archive/2007/06/01/lolpython.html (via @jweyrich) | Mar 12 01:24 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Really happy with how my #osbc presentation is shaping up, hope to see a bunch of you there. :-) | Mar 12 01:28 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Love the drums on Warbringer's 'Nightmare Anatomy' - subtle and awesome cymbal work, almost Anata like tune - http://is.gd/ah3Dy | Mar 12 01:31 | |
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cubezzz | I'd definitely recommend antenna over paying for cable | Mar 12 01:42 |
cubezzz | or just don't watch tv :) | Mar 12 01:42 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] As part of the Ubuntu Global Jam (http://is.gd/ah8XZ) I will be at A'cuppa Tea in Rockridge, CA from 10am - 6pm on Fri 26th March #ubuntu | Mar 12 01:45 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Unwrapping The Community Manager at OSBC in San Francisco - http://is.gd/ahjts #ubuntu #community | Mar 12 02:15 | |
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Ender2070 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0MVuWDc5RQ | Mar 12 02:20 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Time for dinner and then a work out while I am ravaged by my current obsession with watching all of Lost on Hulu - http://www.hulu.com/lost | Mar 12 02:38 | |
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DaemonFC | Ender2070, Hitler ftw! | Mar 12 02:41 |
cubezzz | wow, the top tyan motherboards are expensive | Mar 12 02:46 |
cubezzz | $550 CAN | Mar 12 02:47 |
DaemonFC | you might as well just say $550 | Mar 12 02:48 |
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Ender2070_ | DaemonFC - on the news the other day the banks were saying that canada would be on par with USD soon, and by the summer it should be close to the EU | Mar 12 04:09 |
Ender2070_ | euro | Mar 12 04:09 |
cubezzz | might just look for a used one on ebay | Mar 12 04:10 |
cubezzz | got a great deal for a customer on a Tyan K7X loaded | Mar 12 04:11 |
Ender2070_ | lol | Mar 12 04:12 |
Ender2070_ | DaemonFC - the f13 livecd for kde is the right size | Mar 12 04:13 |
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cubezzz | some of these newer boards don't have many expansion slots :-/ | Mar 12 04:28 |
cubezzz | still, I'm way overdue for an upgrade | Mar 12 04:28 |
WireWulf | overdue? | Mar 12 04:30 |
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cubezzz | well this box is dual 500 Mhz Tyan :) | Mar 12 04:31 |
cubezzz | from 1998 | Mar 12 04:31 |
WireWulf | cubezzz: nice | Mar 12 04:32 |
WireWulf | i still run my p1 from 1995 <.< | Mar 12 04:32 |
WireWulf | >.> | Mar 12 04:32 |
cubezzz | still I wouldn't mind something more modern | Mar 12 04:32 |
WireWulf | cubezzz: monderen i would like myself i have one dual core computer and it is an MSI a5000 laptop | Mar 12 04:33 |
cubezzz | running doze as I recall? :) | Mar 12 04:34 |
cubezzz | that reminds me I should look at the used toughbooks | Mar 12 04:34 |
WireWulf | cubezzz: yeah but i have my reasons for that | Mar 12 04:34 |
WireWulf | cubezzz: i dont run anything gr8 on my p1 | Mar 12 04:39 |
WireWulf | ither | Mar 12 04:40 |
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Ender2070_ | i have a IBM 390X in my closet | Mar 12 04:56 |
Ender2070_ | thinkpad | Mar 12 04:56 |
Ender2070_ | 550mhz p3 | Mar 12 04:56 |
WireWulf | nice | Mar 12 04:57 |
Ender2070_ | its a paperweight | Mar 12 04:58 |
WireWulf | i am thinking about trying plan9 from bell labs | Mar 12 04:58 |
Ender2070_ | i have a dell xps m1330 | Mar 12 04:58 |
WireWulf | anyone have any reasons i shouldnt? | Mar 12 04:58 |
Ender2070_ | plan9 owns | Mar 12 04:58 |
WireWulf | i here it is Unix but upated and not killed in the ownership fights of the 90's | Mar 12 04:59 |
Ender2070_ | no | Mar 12 04:59 |
Ender2070_ | its not at all | Mar 12 05:00 |
WireWulf | Ender2070_: then please tell me what it is | Mar 12 05:00 |
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Ender2070 | NOOBS | Mar 12 05:13 |
WireWulf | <.< | Mar 12 05:13 |
WireWulf | where | Mar 12 05:13 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @Technoviking: No more ghost man in the Me menu in #Ubuntu. http://twitpic.com/181kay | Mar 12 05:43 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Two Shot Of Jaq Publicity Bingo Wins! http://is.gd/aiMh1 #shotofjaq | Mar 12 06:43 | |
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cubezzz | I can buy the arm laptop for $157 | Mar 12 06:44 |
cubezzz | 400 mhz | Mar 12 06:44 |
cubezzz | kind of wimpy on the memory though | Mar 12 06:45 |
cubezzz | 64 meg | Mar 12 06:45 |
WireWulf | wail i am out witch means you will see my znc switch nicks again | Mar 12 06:46 |
WireWulf | night | Mar 12 06:46 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Microsoft isn't in danger of being put out of business but the precendent this case sets could haunt the industry for years http://i5.be/aBk | Mar 12 07:40 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SourceForge Learns Not from #Windows ’ Failures and Even Hires from #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/pcbu #geeknet | Mar 12 07:55 | |
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schestowitz | zoobab_: biased | Mar 12 08:02 |
schestowitz | "Microsoft Subnet" | Mar 12 08:02 |
shreddar | Hey you guys heard about google next step in web domination? | Mar 12 08:03 |
*schestowitz waits for "Google Subnet" or "Linux Subnet" or whatever at IDG | Mar 12 08:03 | |
shreddar | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/191149/google_opens_google_apps_marketplace.html | Mar 12 08:03 |
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schestowitz | shreddar: shopping carts? | Mar 12 08:03 |
schestowitz | I can recall Microsoft wanting to do it | Mar 12 08:03 |
schestowitz | Made lots of noise about it, never quite happened | Mar 12 08:03 |
schestowitz | Same with bar codes | Mar 12 08:03 |
shreddar | Basically they just made a store for all of the web apps. | Mar 12 08:04 |
shreddar | It doesn't sound as bad as it did when I first thought of it. | Mar 12 08:07 |
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shreddar | It's seems like if you want you new web app to be noticed by anyone in the future you'll have to go through google. | Mar 12 08:08 |
schestowitz | People once theorised about a Google Web where you submit your site directly to Google | Mar 12 08:10 |
schestowitz | That was ages ago | Mar 12 08:10 |
schestowitz | It never materialised | Mar 12 08:11 |
schestowitz | At Google, is !search then {fail();} | Mar 12 08:11 |
shreddar | Yeah I guess they'll still have competition. Probably iTunes and Amazon. | Mar 12 08:12 |
schestowitz | Ewwwww..... | Mar 12 08:12 |
schestowitz | If that's the competition, then I hope Google wins | Mar 12 08:12 |
shreddar | I fiqured it would be like the situation where you have to submit your video to Youtube in order to get noticed. | Mar 12 08:13 |
shreddar | I guess the Youtube situation isn't as bad as I thought though. | Mar 12 08:15 |
shreddar | I've heard for most people they watch the video on the creators sites more than from youtube. | Mar 12 08:16 |
shreddar | Anyway that's all. | Mar 12 08:20 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Apple and #Microsoft Use Software Patents Against #Linux , Get Sued http://ur1.ca/pcjp #swpat | Mar 12 08:56 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] is verschrikkelijk laat vandaag, pas om 09:00 uur opgestaan, normaal rond 06:00 uur! Eerst maar eens een emmer koffie naar binnen werken... | Mar 12 09:09 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @duanechaos wants good mini laptop w/Ubuntu Linux,100+gb,good batt life & scren res for coding on planes. Suggestions? | Mar 12 09:17 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.landley.net/notes.html#10-03-2010 | Mar 12 09:22 |
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schestowitz | Watch how many tablets and devices in general run Linux or Android. The 'desktop' is no longer the game to play; the author happens to cite ESR, who has written at least 2 posts in the past 2 weeks about how Linux (or "Open Source") is winning the mobile race. Watch how frantic Apple gets over Linux... suing it with software patents now, as it tried to do about 7 years ago. Apple tried tablets with iPad (looks like a failure), but | Mar 12 09:25 |
schestowitz | Linux/Android+ARM shut the door in Apple's face. | Mar 12 09:25 |
schestowitz | Linux has permanently lost the desktop? No. /The world/ has permanently lost the desktop | Mar 12 09:25 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] A couple of hours playing with computers last night and I appear to have a fully functioning MythTV setup at home. | Mar 12 09:34 | |
schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1595571/hp-sues-ink-cartridge-companies | Mar 12 09:37 |
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schestowitz | Men in gowns. http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/supreme-court-takes-informational-privacy-case/ | Mar 12 09:39 |
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schestowitz | http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2010/mar/09/shooting-reported-hayden-area/ | Mar 12 09:40 |
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schestowitz | This is silly: http://www.mobile-financial.com/node/5312/Open-Source-Banking:-Innovating-despite-banks-who-remain-out-of-touch | Mar 12 10:14 |
schestowitz | open source in the hadline | Mar 12 10:14 |
schestowitz | Article has nothing to do with it | Mar 12 10:14 |
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schestowitz | keyword wave-riding | Mar 12 10:14 |
oiaohm | I always like the point of view that Linux has to have lost. | Mar 12 10:22 |
oiaohm | How does a OS loss when it has more companies support it now than 8 year ago. | Mar 12 10:23 |
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schestowitz | "Online media publishers should change, as asking consumers to change is a recipe for failure...and for stagnation rather than innovation in business models. It's not the consumer's job to figure out a successful business model for the vendor." http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10465944-16.html | Mar 12 10:32 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: they redefine OSS | Mar 12 10:32 |
schestowitz | To "desktop" (old thing), GPL, etc. | Mar 12 10:33 |
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oiaohm | Winning the war against MS is winning support of hardware makers. | Mar 12 10:47 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Scientologists try to block 'intolerant' German feature film - The DVD extras may be just as interesting http://tinyurl.com/ya6pylj | Mar 12 11:21 | |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_14649855 | Mar 12 11:26 |
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schestowitz | Quite major | Mar 12 11:26 |
schestowitz | http://news.google.com/news/story?pz=1&cf=all&ned=uk&hl=en&num=40&ncl=dZE2GEifaFxTSEMofqXFs4MzO00jM | Mar 12 11:27 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Karl Rove 'proud' of US torture methods. http://is.gd/akfvr | Mar 12 11:29 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Karl Rove 'proud' of US torture methods. http://is.gd/akfvr | Mar 12 11:32 | |
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oiaohm | waterboarding has been known for a long time get fake info. | Mar 12 11:33 |
oiaohm | So why be proud of it. | Mar 12 11:33 |
schestowitz | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10349028/ "A group of atheists at the University of Texas in San Antonio is trying to tempt college kids into trading their Bibles for pornography. " | Mar 12 11:34 |
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schestowitz | "Atheist students are offering to trade pornography for religious "holy" books, saying that the latter are more smutty. I like the idea, I just wish they wouldn't endorse the position that pornography is in general bad." http://www.stallman.org/archives/2010-jan-apr.html#11%20March%202010%20%28Smut%20for%20Smut%20in%20San%20Antonio%29 | Mar 12 11:34 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/mar/10/manningham-buller-torture | Mar 12 11:35 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] UN humanitarian chief criticises Israel over Gaza. http://is.gd/akhrf #palestine #occupation #israel | Mar 12 11:36 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] UN humanitarian chief criticises Israel over Gaza. http://is.gd/akhrf #palestine #occupation #israel | Mar 12 11:37 | |
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oiaohm | schestowitz: most people will respond to questions in micro seconds with mussle movement they cannot control. Even if they refuse to answer you can still get emotion repossess to questions. | Mar 12 11:38 |
oiaohm | Catch is micro second movements are not lies. | Mar 12 11:39 |
oiaohm | Basically why water board when you can system matically strip the information out the person to a point they no longer have any point keeping mouth shut you have everything that know. Or at least enough that they will be suspected of talking anyhow. | Mar 12 11:40 |
schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8559683.stm | Mar 12 11:47 |
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schestowitz | Almost 2000 comments: http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/03/why-ad-blocking-is-devastating-to-the-sites-you-love.ars | Mar 12 11:47 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, false testimony | Mar 12 11:48 |
schestowitz | It's why torture can be effective at getting desired words, not truth | Mar 12 11:48 |
schestowitz | People confuse the two | Mar 12 11:48 |
schestowitz | It's like the PC->obesity versus obesity->PC thing | Mar 12 11:49 |
schestowitz | Or the way here in the UK crime is measured | Mar 12 11:49 |
schestowitz | Or NHS performance | Mar 12 11:49 |
schestowitz | You optimise based on the measure | Mar 12 11:49 |
schestowitz | Like an examination that's predictable | Mar 12 11:49 |
schestowitz | You get the REQUIRED/DESIRED outcome | Mar 12 11:49 |
schestowitz | Like a false confession | Mar 12 11:49 |
schestowitz | Someone saying, "OK, I did it!" | Mar 12 11:50 |
schestowitz | It doesn't make it true | Mar 12 11:50 |
oiaohm | You know water boarding is cheaper than having high speed cams and someone sitting there processing the video for there responces. | Mar 12 11:51 |
oiaohm | Lie detectors are not designed to work with people who don't answer. | Mar 12 11:52 |
schestowitz | http://wmdzone.blogspot.com/2010/03/time-for-ubuntu-to-port-evolution.html | Mar 12 11:52 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: they can | Mar 12 11:52 |
schestowitz | Polygraphs can detect nervousness | Mar 12 11:52 |
schestowitz | Response to questions | Mar 12 11:52 |
schestowitz | But that can also be pressure imposed by fear... | Mar 12 11:53 |
schestowitz | You can take someone innocent | Mar 12 11:53 |
schestowitz | Then ask a questuion | Mar 12 11:53 |
schestowitz | "Did you commit the crime?" | Mar 12 11:53 |
oiaohm | Face tells you way more. | Mar 12 11:53 |
schestowitz | The innocent person is worried that he might be flasely accused | Mar 12 11:53 |
schestowitz | So the test fails | Mar 12 11:53 |
schestowitz | If you tell them the machine is 100% correct, then it works | Mar 12 11:53 |
schestowitz | They don't worry | Mar 12 11:54 |
oiaohm | Detecting fear is not useful. | Mar 12 11:54 |
schestowitz | Or worry if they are guilty | Mar 12 11:54 |
schestowitz | So it only works as long as people think that it works | Mar 12 11:54 |
oiaohm | Detecting other emtions like hate and distain are more useful. | Mar 12 11:54 |
schestowitz | That would need cathodes | Mar 12 11:54 |
schestowitz | Seeing which parts of the brain get active as well | Mar 12 11:54 |
schestowitz | fMRI | Mar 12 11:55 |
oiaohm | No micro expressions. | Mar 12 11:55 |
oiaohm | You don't need cathodes to get it. | Mar 12 11:55 |
oiaohm | micro expressions are something most humans do naturally. | Mar 12 11:55 |
oiaohm | About the only expects are people who have had a lot of face operations stuffing mussles and people born with downs syndrome. | Mar 12 11:56 |
oiaohm | But when you have a stack of people on hand to question you can always pick the best at doing micro expressions. | Mar 12 11:57 |
oiaohm | Of course you could have a lot of fun painting white dots all over there face to make the expressions simpler to track. schestowitz | Mar 12 11:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Health-Check-Mandriva-944358.html | Mar 12 12:01 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: I guess so | Mar 12 12:01 |
schestowitz | Is it done already? | Mar 12 12:01 |
schestowitz | First Fedora 13 Linux Alpha Shows Promise http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2010/03/first-fedora-13-linux-alpha-sh.html | Mar 12 12:02 |
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schestowitz | Fedora impresses me | Mar 12 12:02 |
schestowitz | *LOL* http://lwn.net/Articles/376637/ | Mar 12 12:04 |
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oiaohm | Funding in micro expression research as has been lacking. schestowitz. So most micro expression work still work with finding human so call wizards. Who can see the expressions in real time. But those people are extreamally rare. | Mar 12 12:06 |
schestowitz | http://www.handlewithlinux.com/linux-powered-synthesizer | Mar 12 12:06 |
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schestowitz | oiaohm: mostly geometry | Mar 12 12:06 |
oiaohm | 50 out of 20 000 people. | Mar 12 12:06 |
schestowitz | Lots of scaling | Mar 12 12:06 |
schestowitz | No simple task | Mar 12 12:06 |
schestowitz | Different cheek sizes, many dots to track, consideration of question | Mar 12 12:07 |
oiaohm | Who can do it better than 80 percent correct. | Mar 12 12:07 |
schestowitz | I guess you can do an estimation of what the expression at any given time tells based on previous states | Mar 12 12:07 |
oiaohm | Really face id software can allow for different shaped face. | Mar 12 12:07 |
schestowitz | But it's not an easy problem and it needs a lot of training of a model based on human assessment | Mar 12 12:07 |
schestowitz | How do you train a model for anger? | Mar 12 12:08 |
schestowitz | What is anger? | Mar 12 12:08 |
schestowitz | Are all people responding in the same way? | Mar 12 12:08 |
schestowitz | Can you check in a brain scanner that there is REAL anger? | Mar 12 12:08 |
oiaohm | Yes all people respond the same way at micro level. | Mar 12 12:08 |
schestowitz | Not just a person there FAKING it to train the model? | Mar 12 12:08 |
oiaohm | From all studies. | Mar 12 12:08 |
oiaohm | Basically natural human hardwired responce. | Mar 12 12:08 |
schestowitz | Animals' too | Mar 12 12:09 |
oiaohm | Has not been checked against animals but it could be. | Mar 12 12:09 |
oiaohm | Faking is extreamally hard todo. | Mar 12 12:09 |
oiaohm | At micro expression level. | Mar 12 12:09 |
oiaohm | Normally its not exactly fake eitehr. | Mar 12 12:10 |
oiaohm | Correct micro expression displayed then the fake follows. | Mar 12 12:10 |
schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Simon-Phipps-elected-as-OSI-director-952396.html | Mar 12 12:10 |
schestowitz | This is good | Mar 12 12:10 |
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schestowitz | I'm in good terms with him | Mar 12 12:10 |
schestowitz | I knew he was quitting Oracle a week before he announced it | Mar 12 12:10 |
oiaohm | Catch is human eyes not good enough to detect fake. | Mar 12 12:11 |
oiaohm | High speed cams are more than fast enough to tell if the responce was fake or not. schestowitz | Mar 12 12:11 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: pupil tracking? | Mar 12 12:11 |
schestowitz | Sinceremetr :-) | Mar 12 12:12 |
oiaohm | pupil is normally not used. | Mar 12 12:12 |
schestowitz | Blinking? | Mar 12 12:12 |
oiaohm | Human eyes can be tracking for lots of different reasons. | Mar 12 12:12 |
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oiaohm | mussles of the face are far more dependable. | Mar 12 12:12 |
oiaohm | Other thing that makes it harder is a beared. | Mar 12 12:13 |
oiaohm | So yes clean shaving target helps. | Mar 12 12:13 |
oiaohm | disgust, anger, fear, sadness, happiness, surprise, and contempt. << That is the complete list of micro expression you have to work with. | Mar 12 12:15 |
schestowitz | http://www.his.com/~pshapiro/briefbio.html | Mar 12 12:16 |
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schestowitz | Didn't know about this.... | Mar 12 12:16 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: we do this here | Mar 12 12:16 |
schestowitz | Face recognition | Mar 12 12:16 |
schestowitz | But it's not enough | Mar 12 12:16 |
schestowitz | It's not subtle stuff | Mar 12 12:16 |
schestowitz | Things like smiling are easy | Mar 12 12:17 |
schestowitz | It's the tiny things that are hard to pick | Mar 12 12:17 |
schestowitz | Based on shadows | Mar 12 12:17 |
oiaohm | Reason why sticking a stack of dots on face in the right location would help. | Mar 12 12:17 |
oiaohm | Even black dot's. Ie permintate tattoo them. | Mar 12 12:19 |
oiaohm | At least it would be useful torture. | Mar 12 12:19 |
schestowitz | http://madhatter.ca/2010/03/10/alice-in-wonderland-3d-masterpiece/ | Mar 12 12:24 |
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schestowitz | " | Mar 12 12:24 |
schestowitz | The problem with going to a theatre is that the pain can be atrocious. The seats are uncomfortable, very uncomfortable, for someone who suffers from chronic pain. And my wife and daughter made the reservations the night before, so when I woke up hurting badly I was stuck with them. | Mar 12 12:24 |
schestowitz | So I popped a lot of pills, and went. And kept on popping pills. So there are parts of the movie I don’t remember all that well. Quite frankly I was so stoned that this isn’t a movie review. It is however a technology review. | Mar 12 12:24 |
schestowitz | " | Mar 12 12:24 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: white dots | Mar 12 12:24 |
schestowitz | For darker skin | Mar 12 12:24 |
schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100122/1024367874.shtml | Mar 12 12:25 |
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schestowitz | Remember the black guy who accused HP of racism | Mar 12 12:25 |
schestowitz | Cause their web cam app wouldn't detect his face? | Mar 12 12:25 |
schestowitz | It was a viral video on YouTube a few months abck | Mar 12 12:25 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] This is a great example of how ideas and works inspire everywhere http://ur1.ca/pdh0 #sharing | Mar 12 12:32 | |
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schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704784904575111652626885876.html | Mar 12 12:36 |
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oiaohm | Remember Face gives you seven different responces where lie detectors are only following one. Ie face you always have more information to work with. | Mar 12 12:36 |
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oiaohm | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100311191426105 If SCO wins results could be major mess for copyright. | Mar 12 13:01 |
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MinceR | geekings | Mar 12 13:04 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #French village went #insane after #CIA spiked its bread with #LSD http://ur1.ca/pdf1 #douchebags | Mar 12 13:07 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Watching and enjoying this new talk from Lessig in Italy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe2UsBXr-ls | Mar 12 13:08 | |
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oiaohm | http://airlied.livejournal.com/71734.html | Mar 12 13:17 |
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Diablo-D3 | [08:05:13] <nenolod> 13:04:51 up -24855 days, -3:-14, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 | Mar 12 13:25 |
oiaohm | Ok that is odd Diablo-D3 what OS. Most I have not see go - | Mar 12 13:32 |
Diablo-D3 | linux | Mar 12 13:34 |
Diablo-D3 | experimental hypervisor is fucking with the time | Mar 12 13:34 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: you saw this.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzKmGTVmqJs | Mar 12 13:39 |
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Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: why not link to the actual video at TED?? | Mar 12 13:40 |
schestowitz | Don't know the URL | Mar 12 13:41 |
oiaohm | I have seen that and I have the video from TED. TED is on my local isp filemirror | Mar 12 13:41 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Mark Owen of Take That gets drunk and laid a lot http://newstechnica.com/?p=1864 | Mar 12 13:46 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Eeek!Boss has new Ubuntu laptop,wants something to listen to.I installed gpodder and he's now listening to @UUPC :S | Mar 12 14:07 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Boss says 'sounds good, good audio environment, bit treble-y, maybe turn the treble down a bit'.Listening on Sennheisers on Advent laptop. | Mar 12 14:11 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Apparently I should be on hospital radio! I am not sure if this is good or bad. @ivanBrackenbury springs to mind! | Mar 12 14:14 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Apparently with 30K downloads per episode we should "Feel like Freddy Mercury on stage on the mic in Brazil".Not sure how to take that. | Mar 12 14:19 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] And back down to earth with "I think you'd have to be pretty interested in Ubuntu to listen to all of these!" | Mar 12 14:21 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Why Jordanians Should Be Against ACTA > JOSA: http://tinyurl.com/yl395wc | Mar 12 14:32 | |
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Omar87 | http://tinyurl.com/yl395wc | Mar 12 14:33 |
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schestowitz | So the CIA gave the French its own bread by mistake........ | Mar 12 14:53 |
Diablo-D3 | I love how ACTA is basically fucked | Mar 12 14:54 |
Diablo-D3 | the european union has basically rejected it in full | Mar 12 14:54 |
Diablo-D3 | and I can see why | Mar 12 14:54 |
Diablo-D3 | many nations, in their charter document, reject any form of foreign rule | Mar 12 14:55 |
Diablo-D3 | and this tantamount to that | Mar 12 14:55 |
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schestowitz | Yeah. | Mar 12 15:24 |
schestowitz | There is Hope | Mar 12 15:25 |
schestowitz | http://techdailydose.nationaljournal.com/2010/03/obama-reiterates-support-for-f.php | Mar 12 15:25 |
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schestowitz | Also new: http://prospect.org/cs/articles?article=obama_congress_wink_at_massive_surveillance_abuses | Mar 12 15:25 |
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schestowitz | "Oh!! Obama, I vote for you,... How COULD you??? *sobs* " | Mar 12 15:25 |
schestowitz | 'You said, "yes we can!!"' | Mar 12 15:26 |
schestowitz | Who's WE? :-) | Mar 12 15:26 |
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Omar87 | schestowitz, ping | Mar 12 15:38 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, check this out: http://tinyurl.com/yl395wc | Mar 12 15:38 |
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WireWulf | <.< | Mar 12 16:45 |
WireWulf | >.> | Mar 12 16:45 |
schestowitz | Omar87: I saw that | Mar 12 16:47 |
WireWulf | i ididnt | Mar 12 16:49 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenOffice .org Gets #Symtrax Support http://www.itjungle.com/fhs/fhs030910-story08.html | Mar 12 16:49 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] "A beautiful woman is one I notice; a charming woman is one who notices me." - John Erskine :) :) #quote | Mar 12 17:02 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] when i asked for hugs in #twitter. My fellow tweeps are sending me #twugs Awesome;spread the love :) | Mar 12 17:17 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Censorship and Restrictions Face New Fights http://ur1.ca/pekh http://ur1.ca/pekj http://ur1.ca/pekm | Mar 12 17:17 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ballnux Users Discovers #PCLinuxOS 2010 http://forums.opensuse.org/general-chit-chat/434865-pclinuxos-2010-beta-fantastic.html | Mar 12 17:23 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Been offline since Tuesday....why? O2 Broadband let me down... Very bad #fail. Now Ive got loads to catch up on | Mar 12 17:34 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Google App store looks promising: http://tinyurl.com/yaz27l8 #openstandards /via @ManishSinha | Mar 12 17:37 | |
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schestowitz | back in a moment | Mar 12 17:38 |
schestowitz | KDE leaks too much in two weeks | Mar 12 17:38 |
WireWulf | <.< | Mar 12 17:39 |
WireWulf | damned that KDE | Mar 12 17:39 |
WireWulf | and its windows version aero | Mar 12 17:39 |
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-ChanServ-[#boycottnovell] Welcome to the #boycottnovell channel | Mar 12 17:47 | |
WireWulf | wow | Mar 12 17:50 |
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schestowitz | > ITV player won't play in FF, Chrome or Opera. It played a video once | Mar 12 18:00 |
schestowitz | > inn FF and then refused to run. I get audio but no video. The strange | Mar 12 18:00 |
schestowitz | > thing is, I played the video half way through in FF and when I tried | Mar 12 18:00 |
schestowitz | > it again in Chrome it prompted to 'resume' at the same place. How does | Mar 12 18:00 |
schestowitz | > it remember, as I cleared all cookies. | Mar 12 18:00 |
schestowitz | > | Mar 12 18:00 |
schestowitz | > Check it out would you .. | Mar 12 18:00 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] Support freedom of speech in the UK. sign the petition to change the libel law http://bit.ly/c22GMV | Mar 12 18:07 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] New Shot Of Jaq! The Internet as a Human Right - http://shotofjaq.org/2010/03/internet-as-a-human-right/ what do you think? #shotofjaq | Mar 12 18:16 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz After he confessed to nymshifting one has to wonder...does he think people have forgotten? | Mar 12 18:26 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @schestowitz Maybe the Da Costa name has become too toxic to use? I see now he's pimping Window 7 competitions.. | Mar 12 18:27 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @DaemonFC I'd say donate, but don't point the finger at the RIAA for "taking a cut" if you are downloading for free. Theres a name for that. | Mar 12 18:28 | |
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_goblin | bonjour all.... | Mar 12 18:29 |
_goblin | 2 days downtime.... | Mar 12 18:29 |
_goblin | damn o2 | Mar 12 18:29 |
Omar87 | _goblin, hey! :D | Mar 12 18:43 |
_goblin | Hi! | Mar 12 18:43 |
Omar87 | _goblin, buenos dias! :) | Mar 12 18:43 |
Omar87 | _goblin: Man! Rey Mysterio never seizes to amaze me! :D | Mar 12 18:44 |
Omar87 | I loved how he managed to serve yet another bowl of misery to C M Punk and his goon Gallows. :P | Mar 12 18:45 |
_goblin | if you watch Luche Libre you would find him boring.... | Mar 12 18:45 |
_goblin | Never been impressed with Rey. | Mar 12 18:46 |
Omar87 | _goblin, actually I watched to of his matches against The Great Khali. | Mar 12 18:46 |
_goblin | Now Mr Anderson......he's a big star in the making... | Mar 12 18:46 |
Omar87 | two* | Mar 12 18:46 |
Omar87 | Mr. Anderson? | Mar 12 18:46 |
_goblin | He was called Mr Kennedy in the WWE. | Mar 12 18:46 |
_goblin | he is now in TNA | Mar 12 18:47 |
MinceR | Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson. | Mar 12 18:47 |
Omar87 | _goblin, I really enjoy watching Rey defeat opponents who are 10 times his size. | Mar 12 18:47 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Building an opensource business: http://opensource.com/business/10/3/building-open-source-business | Mar 12 18:47 | |
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_goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6v8yeB0tXc | Mar 12 18:47 |
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_goblin | Mind you, Wrestlemania will be quite good this year I think. | Mar 12 18:49 |
_goblin | Undi v HBK ...... | Mar 12 18:50 |
_goblin | Undi might be as silly as hell and can't wrestle for anything but he does a good match with HBK | Mar 12 18:50 |
_goblin | and you know Jericho and Edge will be a good match. | Mar 12 18:51 |
Omar87 | _goblin, can he really flip his eyeballs? Or is this some kind of an optical trick? | Mar 12 18:51 |
_goblin | I think he can.. | Mar 12 18:51 |
Omar87 | _goblin, of course. | Mar 12 18:51 |
_goblin | you know at the Elimination chamber Undi's ring entrance set him alight? | Mar 12 18:52 |
_goblin | first time in Undi's life he got to the ring in less than a minute...... | Mar 12 18:52 |
Omar87 | _goblin, didn't watch that. | Mar 12 18:52 |
Omar87 | _goblin, lol | Mar 12 18:52 |
_goblin | Undi found the need to put out the flames was more important than spending 20mins walking into the ring. | Mar 12 18:53 |
Omar87 | _goblin, yeah. | Mar 12 18:54 |
Omar87 | I think he's really extremely boring. imho. | Mar 12 18:54 |
_goblin | agreed. | Mar 12 18:54 |
_goblin | He's one of the last embarassing relics of the old WWF. | Mar 12 18:55 |
Omar87 | I think some like Rey Mysterio won't find a problem defeating him. | Mar 12 18:55 |
Omar87 | That's right. | Mar 12 18:55 |
MinceR | it all depends on the script :> | Mar 12 18:55 |
_goblin | what script? | Mar 12 18:55 |
Omar87 | And HBK really oversizes him. | Mar 12 18:55 |
_goblin | you saying wrestling is fake? | Mar 12 18:55 |
_goblin | mincer: ;) | Mar 12 18:55 |
MinceR | ;) | Mar 12 18:56 |
Omar87 | _goblin, btw, is it really fake? | Mar 12 18:56 |
_goblin | Mind you wrestling is no more fake than a Microsoft's shill's praise of Windows 7 | Mar 12 18:56 |
Omar87 | _goblin, I totally agree. | Mar 12 18:56 |
_goblin | talking of MS..... | Mar 12 18:57 |
_goblin | Bong is really getting some ad time on SKY TV. | Mar 12 18:57 |
Omar87 | LOL | Mar 12 18:58 |
MinceR | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Kayfabe | Mar 12 18:58 |
MinceR | :> | Mar 12 18:58 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New reasons for #developers and defenders of #Apple to reconsider their position http://ur1.ca/pf6d #swpat | Mar 12 19:08 | |
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rnb | helllooo | Mar 12 19:12 |
_goblin | Mincer: You have totally destroyed my watching of wrestling.... ;) Next you will say Santa Claus doesnt exist..... | Mar 12 19:17 |
MinceR | yeah, next time i will | Mar 12 19:18 |
MinceR | ;) | Mar 12 19:18 |
Omar87 | _goblin, yeah man. That's right. Santa Clause is no more than a myth, believe it or not. :) | Mar 12 19:21 |
Omar87 | rnb, Hey! | Mar 12 19:21 |
_goblin | ....I won't listen anymore ;) Santa Clause is real, there is a toothfairy and....Windows 7 is secure!!! ;) | Mar 12 19:21 |
Omar87 | _goblin, LOL! :D | Mar 12 19:22 |
MinceR | lol | Mar 12 19:22 |
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_goblin | ....got to find myself some material to post about on Openbytes..... | Mar 12 19:23 |
Omar87 | _goblin, Pop-up question! "If Santa Clause is real, why doesn't it (he) show up in person?" :D | Mar 12 19:23 |
_goblin | he does! (as far as my kids are concerned!) they saw him at the local shopping mall. | Mar 12 19:24 |
_goblin | and then again at the local school.... | Mar 12 19:24 |
WireWulf | o/ | Mar 12 19:24 |
Omar87 | lol | Mar 12 19:24 |
_goblin | and coincidently at the same time at the local public hall.....(as well as 4 duplicate helpers) | Mar 12 19:24 |
_goblin | he gets about a bit that old santa.. | Mar 12 19:24 |
WireWulf | santa omg | Mar 12 19:25 |
_goblin | steady. | Mar 12 19:25 |
Omar87 | _goblin, Please be honest: "Was it really really him or was some one else dressed like him?" ;-) | Mar 12 19:25 |
_goblin | he aint coming for about 9 months yet. | Mar 12 19:25 |
WireWulf | christmas is a christin holiday xD | Mar 12 19:25 |
_goblin | if you want it to be. | Mar 12 19:25 |
_goblin | Xmas is for everyone | Mar 12 19:25 |
WireWulf | nah | Mar 12 19:26 |
_goblin | giving of gifts....yule logs and all that. | Mar 12 19:26 |
WireWulf | just a day of the week | Mar 12 19:26 |
_goblin | based on a generous chap droping gifts down chimneys. | Mar 12 19:26 |
_goblin | you don't need to be christian to own a chimney......ergo anyone can enjoy xmas. | Mar 12 19:26 |
*WireWulf doesnt have a fire place | Mar 12 19:27 | |
_goblin | WireWulf: ah.... | Mar 12 19:27 |
_goblin | WireWulf: letterbox? | Mar 12 19:27 |
Omar87 | _goblin, If the Chirstmas is about the birth of Jesus Christ (PBUH). What's the significance of a mythical creature dropping gifts from the sky? | Mar 12 19:28 |
WireWulf | Omar87: for fun and profit | Mar 12 19:28 |
WireWulf | like everything | Mar 12 19:29 |
_goblin | omar87: Good question.....It was some saint dropping gifts down the poors chimney at xmas.....or something like that..... | Mar 12 19:29 |
_goblin | wirewulf: I hope you are not from BoycottXmas.com | Mar 12 19:29 |
WireWulf | _goblin: i am from boycott apple <.< | Mar 12 19:29 |
WireWulf | >.> | Mar 12 19:29 |
Omar87 | _goblin, I mean is it really proper to lie at your kids about the existence of a mythical creature in the birthday of the Holiest person in Christian faith? | Mar 12 19:30 |
_goblin | omar87: simple answer..... | Mar 12 19:30 |
_goblin | omar87: yes | Mar 12 19:30 |
WireWulf | Omar87: duh nevar tell your kids the truth | Mar 12 19:30 |
_goblin | omar87: it helps with the other mythical creatures that stop them doing things dangerous. | Mar 12 19:31 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, _goblin, exactly. Just the answers I needed. :) | Mar 12 19:31 |
WireWulf | Omar87: i don't have kids cant you tell | Mar 12 19:31 |
WireWulf | <.< | Mar 12 19:31 |
WireWulf | >.> | Mar 12 19:31 |
_goblin | omar87: like the never talk to strangers or careful to cross the road... | Mar 12 19:31 |
*WireWulf notes everyone is a stranger till you talk to them | Mar 12 19:32 | |
_goblin | very true | Mar 12 19:32 |
_goblin | and some are still "strange" even after you talk to them. | Mar 12 19:32 |
Omar87 | _goblin, so lying is not prohibited in Christianity? | Mar 12 19:33 |
_goblin | omar87: I think it is, but Im not really a christian. | Mar 12 19:33 |
WireWulf | it is | Mar 12 19:33 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Pays for #Linux #Phones to Redirect Users to Microsoft http://ur1.ca/pfaw #canonical #motorola | Mar 12 19:33 | |
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WireWulf | but we still lie | Mar 12 19:33 |
_goblin | I was being flippant of course.... | Mar 12 19:33 |
WireWulf | omg M$ buying linuxx phones | Mar 12 19:34 |
_goblin | but I would say that just like you wouldn't explain what COULD happen if they were to walk off with a stranger in graphic detail, you tell little lies to protect them from things. | Mar 12 19:34 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, so why did you just say "Never tell your kids the truth."? Isn't that a form of lying? And during what? During the birthday of Jesus Christ? | Mar 12 19:34 |
Omar87 | Himself? | Mar 12 19:34 |
WireWulf | Omar87: Nevar tell your kids the truth <reason: they already know, 2 it makes them depressed> | Mar 12 19:35 |
_goblin | omar87: you have probably hit upon a point, however the story of gifts dropping down chimneys is expected to be believed and based on christrian generousity so the fact that one quantifies it with a man with a white beard doesn;t make it a lie, simply understandable for children. | Mar 12 19:35 |
_goblin | and a demonstration of the miracle of generousity, | Mar 12 19:36 |
WireWulf | kids love old ppl | Mar 12 19:36 |
WireWulf | and bunnys | Mar 12 19:36 |
_goblin | and Rory the Racing Car. | Mar 12 19:36 |
_goblin | (in my house anyway) | Mar 12 19:36 |
WireWulf | new holiday? | Mar 12 19:37 |
WireWulf | o yeah and dead pplz | Mar 12 19:37 |
WireWulf | znd the militar.police,and firefighters | Mar 12 19:37 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ik geloof dat het uit is tussen "Julian" en mij. Ik heb zijn scriptie gemaakt en ben nu overbodig. Heb nog even met hem gechat... | Mar 12 19:37 | |
_goblin | wirewulf: very true. | Mar 12 19:38 |
Omar87 | _goblin, WireWulf so again, why lying to little children about the existence of Santa Clause, instead of simply teaching them about the ultimate generosity of God himself? | Mar 12 19:38 |
_goblin | because the story of gifts down chimneys was supposed to be true in itself. | Mar 12 19:39 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] ... Vroeg me "wanneer ik hem weer eens goed wilde pijpen..." Ja hallo!!! Ik dacht dat we voornamelijk Geek vrienden waren. | Mar 12 19:39 | |
_goblin | and infact Xmas has a basis in the pagan religion. | Mar 12 19:39 |
WireWulf | Omar87: becuz kids are easily thought with ppl other then there mum's and dads | Mar 12 19:39 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, I don't believe that's psychologically true. | Mar 12 19:40 |
WireWulf | halloween is my favorit holiday | Mar 12 19:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Domme gans die ik ben, zo boos op mezelf :-( | Mar 12 19:40 | |
_goblin | again, with a pagan basis. | Mar 12 19:41 |
WireWulf | _goblin: celtic new year :P | Mar 12 19:41 |
_goblin | Christianity is a bit late to the party with many of its teaching and festivals when you look back into distant history. | Mar 12 19:42 |
WireWulf | halloween in christin believe xis a day to make fun of the Evils | Mar 12 19:42 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, instead of filly kids' minds with mythical stories about non-existent characters, I think it would be much better teaching them to read the bible and understand it. Because that would make much more sense in the birthday of their "God". | Mar 12 19:42 |
_goblin | Jesus was not god. | Mar 12 19:42 |
_goblin | He was the "son of" | Mar 12 19:43 |
_goblin | and infact in some faiths he was nothing more than a prophet. | Mar 12 19:43 |
WireWulf | Omar87: mosyt christins havent even read the bible | Mar 12 19:43 |
Omar87 | _goblin, Which is true. | Mar 12 19:43 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, and is that a good thing? | Mar 12 19:43 |
WireWulf | hints why some say jesus was god | Mar 12 19:43 |
WireWulf | Omar87: nope | Mar 12 19:43 |
_goblin | I do believe in god and have a faith, but it is made up of many different faiths..... | Mar 12 19:44 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, so how do these people call themselves "Christians"? | Mar 12 19:44 |
WireWulf | thats is why holidays mean less to human beingxs then they use to | Mar 12 19:44 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Hoop dat ie de tyfus krijgt. Domme ouwe kasnicht, cowarrd, luser, windummy ;-p | Mar 12 19:44 | |
WireWulf | Omar87: they go to a church for social time normaly | Mar 12 19:44 |
WireWulf | or there parents were christin | Mar 12 19:45 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, btw the way, by saying "Most christins havent even read the bible", which bible are you talking about exactly? | Mar 12 19:45 |
WireWulf | the bible as in the christin bible | Mar 12 19:46 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, which Christian bible? | Mar 12 19:46 |
_goblin | I think the movie Startrek 5 got it right............... "One God, many faces" | Mar 12 19:46 |
WireWulf | Omar87: believe it or not there is only one christin bible | Mar 12 19:46 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, 'coz ya know, there's more than 27 totally different of versions of it. | Mar 12 19:46 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, are you sure? | Mar 12 19:47 |
WireWulf | mmhmm | Mar 12 19:47 |
_goblin | sounds like Windows 7....... | Mar 12 19:47 |
_goblin | maybe theres not 27 versions....but its close. | Mar 12 19:47 |
WireWulf | the king james bible is the only version of the bible that is christin | Mar 12 19:47 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, some other Christian people can't simply agree with you. | Mar 12 19:48 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] LOL, moet er zelf hartelijk om lachen. Tok, tok, tok alweer een ei :-D | Mar 12 19:48 | |
WireWulf | Omar87: bapist, methitis, catholics, eve anglicals, and the rest use the same bible | Mar 12 19:49 |
_goblin | wow...BN chat.....gone from Wrestling to Santa Claus to religion.......who says we only talk IT here> | Mar 12 19:49 |
WireWulf | the biggist difference is how you act | Mar 12 19:49 |
WireWulf | bapist can are not suppost to dance | Mar 12 19:50 |
WireWulf | southeren bapist are not allowed to have sexx b4 marriage (tho not really enforced anymore) | Mar 12 19:50 |
WireWulf | that is the main differents is what they call books of dictorens (the way you have to act inside and outside church) | Mar 12 19:51 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, so basically, who wrote the Bible? | Mar 12 19:52 |
WireWulf | _goblin: win7 is to flashy (like mac) for my taste | Mar 12 19:52 |
WireWulf | Omar87: not sure | Mar 12 19:52 |
_goblin | it was re-written. | Mar 12 19:52 |
_goblin | old testament. | Mar 12 19:53 |
_goblin | thats the original | Mar 12 19:53 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, you aren't sure who wrote the word of God? How's that possible? | Mar 12 19:53 |
WireWulf | how ever it was translated by king james court for christins to be able to read | Mar 12 19:53 |
WireWulf | Omar87: i am not really chrisxtin | Mar 12 19:53 |
Omar87 | WireWulf, so then what are you? | Mar 12 19:54 |
WireWulf | Omar87: unsure what you would call it | Mar 12 19:54 |
_goblin | wirewulf: I tested it for 3 months in a comparison with a slack' distro.....no competition...Wolvix won hands down...its the first time Id used Windows in the home for quite some time. | Mar 12 19:54 |
WireWulf | _goblin: i have win7 on my lappy | Mar 12 19:55 |
_goblin | wirewulf: Im sorry to hear that. | Mar 12 19:55 |
WireWulf | but there is hope for linux as miniX supports my wifi card now | Mar 12 19:55 |
WireWulf | _goblin: it is no biggie i use my linux based desktop more | Mar 12 19:56 |
_goblin | Ive been running Elive now for a few week....I am beginning to love Enlightenment as my main DE. | Mar 12 19:56 |
_goblin | xfce used to be my choice.. | Mar 12 19:57 |
WireWulf | i use openbox w. gnome libs | Mar 12 19:57 |
WireWulf | wail gnome and KDE libs | Mar 12 19:57 |
WireWulf | so i can run anything i want or need | Mar 12 19:58 |
_goblin | Since Gnome is moving more towards Mono and I can't like KDE, I am left looking at the others for alternatives.....and no bad thing....there are some great DE's out there now that are mature and fast as hell. | Mar 12 19:58 |
Ender2070 | KDE rocks | Mar 12 19:58 |
MinceR | indeed | Mar 12 19:58 |
_goblin | I wish I liked KDE. | Mar 12 19:58 |
WireWulf | KDE sucks | Mar 12 19:59 |
WireWulf | rox isnt that mature yet but it is pretty small | Mar 12 19:59 |
_goblin | its really strange, I can't give a concrete reason for not liking KDE other than a list of words that pop into my head when I use it. | Mar 12 19:59 |
MinceR | does that list hurt you? :> | Mar 12 20:00 |
WireWulf | to shiny bogs down my computer | Mar 12 20:00 |
_goblin | yeah..... | Mar 12 20:00 |
_goblin | goes in through my ear. | Mar 12 20:00 |
WireWulf | feel the same about gnome | Mar 12 20:00 |
WireWulf | to shiny bogs down my system | Mar 12 20:00 |
_goblin | you see I love Gnome....or I would if it wasn't for Mono relationship... | Mar 12 20:01 |
Ender2070 | i used to like gnome too | Mar 12 20:01 |
_goblin | however for others (new users) I would always recommend Gnome.....rock solid DE. | Mar 12 20:01 |
Ender2070 | i need to see progress in something though | Mar 12 20:01 |
Ender2070 | i like new features | Mar 12 20:01 |
_goblin | I don't like change. | Mar 12 20:01 |
_goblin | and I don't like "bling"....thats maybe why I can't get on with KDE. | Mar 12 20:02 |
WireWulf | _goblin: lxde is what i say for new users alot | Mar 12 20:02 |
_goblin | KDE for me has far too much of a blingy MS appearance for my liking.... | Mar 12 20:02 |
WireWulf | _goblin: KDE was that way befor M$ got them to code aero :P | Mar 12 20:03 |
_goblin | I am not saying it wasn't | Mar 12 20:03 |
_goblin | but it just reminds me of MS tech regardless of who came first. | Mar 12 20:03 |
MinceR | kde can be configured to have minimal bling | Mar 12 20:04 |
schestowitz | Or Bingo | Mar 12 20:04 |
_goblin | Im sure.....but then why not just default a different DE thats lighter in the first place/ | Mar 12 20:04 |
schestowitz | Some people would be underwhelmed | Mar 12 20:04 |
schestowitz | Some suggest the opposite | Mar 12 20:04 |
_goblin | Fluxbox is another good choice. | Mar 12 20:04 |
schestowitz | Make it a peacock | Mar 12 20:04 |
MinceR | if one needs a reason, then a reason could be a feature that's missing from the lighter DE | Mar 12 20:04 |
_goblin | yeah, each to their own. | Mar 12 20:05 |
WireWulf | fluxxbox :) | Mar 12 20:05 |
_goblin | first tried that with #CBL! | Mar 12 20:05 |
WireWulf | twm as root | Mar 12 20:05 |
WireWulf | and xige as admin | Mar 12 20:05 |
WireWulf | i have for wm's on my system go figure | Mar 12 20:06 |
WireWulf | http://lxde.org/lxde_desktop <<< what i tell new users to use as it looks like windows XP | Mar 12 20:08 |
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MinceR | xpde looks more like winxp :> | Mar 12 20:09 |
Diablo-D3 | xfce > lxde | Mar 12 20:10 |
WireWulf | you could use cde | Mar 12 20:11 |
Diablo-D3 | your mom | Mar 12 20:11 |
MinceR | yes, even your mom could use cde! | Mar 12 20:11 |
MinceR | ;) | Mar 12 20:11 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft MVP Miguel de Icaza Leaves #CodePlex Foundation Board http://ur1.ca/pfhe #mono #trojan #novell | Mar 12 20:11 | |
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WireWulf | or jd4x | Mar 12 20:12 |
WireWulf | or ude | Mar 12 20:14 |
MinceR | or enlightenment | Mar 12 20:15 |
_goblin | thats my choice. | Mar 12 20:15 |
WireWulf | my mum uses windoze | Mar 12 20:15 |
_goblin | de Icaza leaves Codeplex.....? Doesn't make much difference to it though.... | Mar 12 20:15 |
MinceR | your mum's using windows in hell! | Mar 12 20:15 |
MinceR | _goblin: doesn't | Mar 12 20:16 |
_goblin | MVP Icaza is now tainted with the MS branding......I don't think his future is with FOSS. | Mar 12 20:16 |
_goblin | why would anyone think an MVP award is a good thing? | Mar 12 20:16 |
MinceR | because of the indoctrination they were subjected to | Mar 12 20:17 |
_goblin | the shame and stigma of it.... | Mar 12 20:17 |
_goblin | MVP - "Im Microsoft Approved" award. | Mar 12 20:17 |
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WireWulf | MVP = M$ Values this Person award | Mar 12 20:18 |
WireWulf | and by values i mean what them on their team as M$ is scared | Mar 12 20:19 |
_goblin | btw..... | Mar 12 20:19 |
WireWulf | <.< | Mar 12 20:19 |
_goblin | theres a WWE wrestler called MVP.........he doens't shill for Microsoft though. | Mar 12 20:19 |
_goblin | just to bring back in my favorite topic..... | Mar 12 20:19 |
WireWulf | wrestling :( | Mar 12 20:20 |
_goblin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcNtCMH2CLQ | Mar 12 20:21 |
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WireWulf | :( | Mar 12 20:22 |
WireWulf | sony wants use to hack PSP's i swair | Mar 12 20:22 |
WireWulf | they make it easy | Mar 12 20:22 |
WireWulf | <.< | Mar 12 20:22 |
WireWulf | >.> | Mar 12 20:22 |
_goblin | off topic......after 2 days offline...Ive accumulated quite a few emails of hate in regards to my piracy articles. | Mar 12 20:22 |
DaemonFC | Most Valuable Professional = Pawn making us a lot of money in this category | Mar 12 20:22 |
_goblin | and that twitter list trying to insult me.... | Mar 12 20:23 |
_goblin | infact I'd go as far to say that even Mono doesn't generate as much bad feeling as a talk on piracy. | Mar 12 20:23 |
WireWulf | _goblin: WHAT IS YOUR CALL ON PIRACY? | Mar 12 20:23 |
_goblin | lol... | Mar 12 20:23 |
_goblin | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/davenport-lyonsacs-law-to-get-their-very-own-warning-letter/ | Mar 12 20:23 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Davenport & Lyons/ACS Law to get their very own warning letter? « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 60.58 KB | Mar 12 20:23 |
_goblin | thats my most recent article. | Mar 12 20:24 |
_goblin | although I think the hate comes from this one: | Mar 12 20:24 |
_goblin | http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/if-they-are-doing-it-so-can-we-riaa-v-file-sharers-again/ | Mar 12 20:24 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: If they are doing it, so can we? RIAA v File sharers (again) « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 63.78 KB | Mar 12 20:24 |
DaemonFC | Yay, Indicator has my picture in it finally | Mar 12 20:25 |
WireWulf | i dont do anything illegal w/ cfw | Mar 12 20:26 |
WireWulf | just run homebrew apps | Mar 12 20:27 |
WireWulf | i am out again catch ya laterZ | Mar 12 20:27 |
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_goblin | ah...Mr DeamonFC...Ive answered you on Twitter....My broadband was down for the last two days. | Mar 12 20:29 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: your mayor in in BN's front page | Mar 12 20:34 |
schestowitz | What the heck is he doing there? | Mar 12 20:34 |
DaemonFC | what? | Mar 12 20:34 |
schestowitz | Demonstrating dronyism | Mar 12 20:34 |
schestowitz | *Cr | Mar 12 20:34 |
MinceR | cronyism of drones? | Mar 12 20:34 |
DaemonFC | the hell? | Mar 12 20:35 |
DaemonFC | being ominous and attacking free software? | Mar 12 20:36 |
DaemonFC | our mayor? | Mar 12 20:38 |
schestowitz | THe server has load issues | Mar 12 20:38 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, I don't think he's that smart | Mar 12 20:38 |
schestowitz | I wish we have the cache back | Mar 12 20:38 |
DaemonFC | he just masturbates to porn on city computers | Mar 12 20:39 |
DaemonFC | Windows is awesome for him | Mar 12 20:39 |
schestowitz | No | Mar 12 20:39 |
schestowitz | It gets malware | Mar 12 20:39 |
schestowitz | Windows and pr0n don't mix | Mar 12 20:39 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, He got investigated by the state police a while back for inappropriately viewing email of city employees | Mar 12 20:39 |
DaemonFC | and other elected officials | Mar 12 20:40 |
DaemonFC | they let him go of course | Mar 12 20:40 |
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schestowitz | Ahhh... | Mar 12 20:43 |
schestowitz | Maybe he thought they got pr0n by mail | Mar 12 20:44 |
schestowitz | He was 'on the case' | Mar 12 20:44 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, any news about sharepoint? | Mar 12 20:46 |
schestowitz | Not really | Mar 12 20:50 |
schestowitz | Just lumpware | Mar 12 20:50 |
schestowitz | Lumping lots of Microsoft junk | Mar 12 20:50 |
schestowitz | Trying to shovel it up some companies | Mar 12 20:50 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s Latest Harms to the Web and Shallow Press Coverage That Neglects to Name Culprits http://ur1.ca/pfng | Mar 12 20:50 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Microsoft fights /information/ about its problems rather than fight the problems themselves. It's cheaper. | Mar 12 20:50 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsofts Latest Harms to the Web and Shallow Press Coverage That Neglects to Name Culprits | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 95.75 KB | Mar 12 20:50 |
DaemonFC | "<schestowitz> Maybe he thought they got pr0n by mail <schestowitz> He was 'on the case" | Mar 12 20:53 |
DaemonFC | HAHAHAHAHA!!!! | Mar 12 20:53 |
DaemonFC | good one | Mar 12 20:53 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, a lot of us are trying to get the county to step in and stop him | Mar 12 20:54 |
DaemonFC | problem is their power over the city government is limited | Mar 12 20:54 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, what never seizes to disgust me is how some people are drooling about it. | Mar 12 20:57 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, specifically here in Jordan. | Mar 12 20:58 |
DaemonFC | http://www.southbendtribune.com/article/20100312/Opinion/3120377/1064/Opinion | Mar 12 20:59 |
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DaemonFC | heh | Mar 12 20:59 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/43799#comment-13134 | Mar 12 20:59 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: today's leftovers: | tuxmachines.org .::. Size~: 36.73 KB | Mar 12 20:59 |
DaemonFC | yeah, I actually live in Bowerstown, but it's an incorporated township of Huntington City | Mar 12 20:59 |
schestowitz | Omar87: drooling is good | Mar 12 20:59 |
DaemonFC | so most people living in Bowerstown don't even know it exists | Mar 12 20:59 |
schestowitz | It'll melt the server | Mar 12 20:59 |
DaemonFC | :P | Mar 12 20:59 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, lol :) | Mar 12 21:00 |
Omar87 | Oh, and actually it should've been "What never ceases* to disgust me...". | Mar 12 21:02 |
schestowitz | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ax6BgdvyHx8c&pos=6 http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1596204/novell-asset-stripped | Mar 12 21:04 |
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phIRCe-BNc | Title: Novell will be asset stripped - The Inquirer .::. Size~: 55.77 KB | Mar 12 21:04 |
schestowitz | Novell is history | Mar 12 21:04 |
schestowitz | THis is funny: http://yokozar.org/blog/archives/194 what DaemonFC complained about | Mar 12 21:05 |
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Omar87 | schestowitz: LOL. What if Red Hat buys Novell? :P | Mar 12 21:06 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, The bug complaining about it is "triaged" | Mar 12 21:08 |
DaemonFC | might mean they'll change it | Mar 12 21:08 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Downloadverbod? zijn de wittebrood criminelen nou helemaal van de pot gerukt? | Mar 12 21:12 | |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQpU-FAXXY&feature=player_embedded Openballnux on TV | Mar 12 21:14 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- Genitori e figli - Trailer ufficiale .::. Size~: 119.1 KB | Mar 12 21:14 |
schestowitz | Omar87: they can't and won't | Mar 12 21:14 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, I'm just joking. | Mar 12 21:15 |
schestowitz | http://twitpic.com/182sps | Mar 12 21:15 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Look Ma #opensuse is on film - http://is.gd/ak9bH 1m:40s on Twitpic .::. Size~: 7.57 KB | Mar 12 21:15 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Download legale vrije muziek NU: http://www.simuzie.nl | Mar 12 21:15 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz, Disinformation Week says XBOX 360 sales outdo PS3 and Wii this quarter | Mar 12 21:16 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: However, after how Oracle bought Sun, I really can't see anything as "impossible" anymore. | Mar 12 21:16 |
DaemonFC | I doubt that | Mar 12 21:16 |
schestowitz | Macheads spin: | Mar 12 21:16 |
schestowitz | Wolf, in a new note to investors, said the open source community is "hopelessly confused." He said the open source movement came from the academic community, where ideas are freely exchanged. But things don't work like that in the business world. | Mar 12 21:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/03/12/open_source_community_hopelessly_confused_by_apple_htc_suit.html | Mar 12 21:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: AppleInsider | Open source community 'hopelessly confused' by Apple-HTC suit .::. Size~: 52.84 KB | Mar 12 21:16 |
schestowitz | What a load of BS | Mar 12 21:16 |
schestowitz | They defend Apple | Mar 12 21:16 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: US? | Mar 12 21:17 |
schestowitz | NPdee? | Mar 12 21:17 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/grid_cluster/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800126&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News | Mar 12 21:17 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, they can yap all they want. That's what most journalists get paid for these days, ya know. | Mar 12 21:17 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Xbox Sales Top Wii, PS3 -- Hardware -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 91.25 KB | Mar 12 21:17 |
DaemonFC | "Six months after being named the most unreliable video game console, with a failure rate eight times that of the Nintendo Wii and more than twice that of the Sony PlayStation 3, Microsoft's Xbox is topping sales charts." | Mar 12 21:17 |
DaemonFC | heh, right | Mar 12 21:17 |
schestowitz | Lies. | Mar 12 21:17 |
schestowitz | NPD | Mar 12 21:17 |
schestowitz | They said Linux had 4% in netbooks | Mar 12 21:17 |
schestowitz | Reality: | Mar 12 21:17 |
schestowitz | 30% | Mar 12 21:17 |
schestowitz | ro 40% | Mar 12 21:17 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, exactly. | Mar 12 21:18 |
schestowitz | DisinformationWeek fail | Mar 12 21:18 |
DaemonFC | 8 times the failure rate of the Wii is probably not accurate either, it's likely about twice that | Mar 12 21:18 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Oops, foute link, de juiste lin naar Legale vrije Muziek van Nederlandse artiesten is: http://www.simuze.nl/live/ (ik sta er ook bij LOL) | Mar 12 21:18 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Simuze - gratis muziek downloaden, uploaden, luisteren en verspreiden. .::. Size~: 50.19 KB | Mar 12 21:18 |
schestowitz | NPD has a logn history shilling for Ballmer | Mar 12 21:18 |
_goblin | I thought it was always 1% for linux? | Mar 12 21:19 |
DaemonFC | brb, have to get my diet mt dew for the day :P | Mar 12 21:19 |
DaemonFC | caffeine!!!! | Mar 12 21:19 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/04/09/microsoft-npd-group-connection/ | Mar 12 21:19 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft-NPD Connections | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 107.12 KB | Mar 12 21:19 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/07/vista-7-and-more-npd-lies/ | Mar 12 21:19 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Vista 7 Incompatibility Issues, Crashes, and More NPD Lies | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 103.46 KB | Mar 12 21:19 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, people like Preston Gralla and Hiner have nothing useful to do than sucking Ballmer's balls. (excuse me for the bad language, but that's the best description I could come up with) | Mar 12 21:19 |
_goblin | no matter how many people use it , it always 1% according to the MS faithful. | Mar 12 21:19 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/10/26/idc-gartner-corruptible/ | Mar 12 21:19 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: IDC, Gartner, NPD, and Other Corruptible Analysts | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 103.99 KB | Mar 12 21:19 |
schestowitz | and http://boycottnovell.com/2010/01/25/microsoft-npd-lies-and-fud/ | Mar 12 21:19 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft is Lying to the Public with NPD (Again) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 103.53 KB | Mar 12 21:19 |
schestowitz | Omar87: yes | Mar 12 21:19 |
schestowitz | They are trash with legs | Mar 12 21:20 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, Yup. | Mar 12 21:20 |
schestowitz | _goblin: they are even contradicted by analysts of Microsoft | Mar 12 21:20 |
schestowitz | Microsoft does not care about facts | Mar 12 21:20 |
schestowitz | It's a movement | Mar 12 21:20 |
schestowitz | Like a religion | Mar 12 21:20 |
schestowitz | They share their mana (money) | Mar 12 21:20 |
schestowitz | And attack the threats | Mar 12 21:21 |
_goblin | Speaking with many non-tech folks who are using Windows 7....all is not well.... | Mar 12 21:21 |
_goblin | the general consensus is "Its just as bad as Vista" | Mar 12 21:21 |
_goblin | looks and works great the first couple of times.....connect to the net, install a few apps and it reveals its true form. | Mar 12 21:22 |
Omar87 | _goblin, let's hope more sounds like these come to the surface. | Mar 12 21:22 |
_goblin | these comments are coming from "average users" who already had their fill of Vista. | Mar 12 21:23 |
schestowitz | Hmmmmm. http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10015323o-2000498448b,00.htm | Mar 12 21:23 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Community on ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 112.29 KB | Mar 12 21:23 |
_goblin | unfortunately I think its Apple that will reap the immediate benefits of MS disatisfaction. | Mar 12 21:23 |
_goblin | *dissatisfaction | Mar 12 21:24 |
Omar87 | _goblin, oh and remember: Vista had just the exact same form of hype during the couple few months that followed its release. | Mar 12 21:24 |
_goblin | yeah.... | Mar 12 21:24 |
_goblin | I was a victim of Vista | Mar 12 21:24 |
schestowitz | [21:21] <_goblin> the general consensus is "Its just as bad as Vista" | Mar 12 21:24 |
schestowitz | It _is_ | Mar 12 21:24 |
_goblin | its what changed me from a Linux dual booter to a Linux only. | Mar 12 21:25 |
schestowitz | Just. Vista. | Mar 12 21:25 |
Omar87 | But it didn't take too long until the entire "Vista" dream had turned into a nasty nightmare. | Mar 12 21:25 |
_goblin | schestowitz: But the "average user" doesn't immediately know that. | Mar 12 21:25 |
schestowitz | of course not | Mar 12 21:25 |
schestowitz | They called it "Seven" | Mar 12 21:25 |
schestowitz | Renaming | Mar 12 21:25 |
schestowitz | Imagiery | Mar 12 21:25 |
schestowitz | branding | Mar 12 21:25 |
Omar87 | _goblin, exactly. | Mar 12 21:25 |
schestowitz | Adtertising, advertising, advertising... | Mar 12 21:25 |
_goblin | bongs hitting SKY TV hard. | Mar 12 21:26 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkA9L2J2gY | Mar 12 21:26 |
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_goblin | I notice its still a "decision engine" | Mar 12 21:26 |
schestowitz | They burn money | Mar 12 21:26 |
_goblin | only because that way they don't have to admit defeat to a search engine. | Mar 12 21:26 |
schestowitz | Over $2 bn per year | Mar 12 21:26 |
schestowitz | ANd it should be probed | Mar 12 21:27 |
schestowitz | False adveritisng | Mar 12 21:27 |
schestowitz | They say it's search | Mar 12 21:27 |
schestowitz | But it's Microsoft's brainwash | Mar 12 21:27 |
schestowitz | They should say that | Mar 12 21:27 |
schestowitz | We just organise some stuff how we like to see the world | Mar 12 21:27 |
_goblin | I prefer the dictionary definition of Bing......" A heap or a pile"........thats about right. | Mar 12 21:27 |
schestowitz | & in quotes | Mar 12 21:27 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, MAN!! Or my God! This guys [Ballmer] is such a human-shaped jellyfish!! :D | Mar 12 21:28 |
schestowitz | http://twitter.com/josephtartakoff/statuses/10347159101 "interesting. @seattlepi takes down incredibly tactless video about site's one-year-anniversary from youtube" | Mar 12 21:29 |
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schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-requests-indicate-ftc-may-block-googles-admob-purchase/ | Mar 12 21:30 |
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schestowitz | Could Crapple or MSFT be involved here? | Mar 12 21:30 |
schestowitz | Apple gets into mobile ads now | Mar 12 21:31 |
schestowitz | Anything for that bullyhouse | Mar 12 21:31 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Hint: If your broadband is off for two days, prepare to spend a good 3 hours trying to catch up.... over 100 emails! | Mar 12 21:31 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] In time for world cyber-freedom day, new zealand censors the internet, http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/12/new_zealand_internet_filter/ | Mar 12 21:31 | |
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DaemonFC | that's better, two 44 ounce diet mt dews, that should wake me up | Mar 12 21:33 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, I don't know why, but every time I watch Ballmer talking, I get a feeling that he might a drug addict. | Mar 12 21:35 |
Omar87 | :P | Mar 12 21:35 |
DaemonFC | jono_, http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/health/policy/13health.html | Mar 12 21:35 |
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Omar87 | He's really pathetic, ya know. | Mar 12 21:35 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Wow these kids started hardcore dancing young - http://is.gd/aol26 #comedygold | Mar 12 21:35 | |
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DaemonFC | We'll pass a horrible bill now and trust us, we'll come back later with a series of patches to make it less bad! | Mar 12 21:36 |
DaemonFC | the Republican opposition to the "health bill" is theater | Mar 12 21:36 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, or more. | Mar 12 21:36 |
DaemonFC | it provided the background to justify the Democrats passing a bill that fucks everyone over | Mar 12 21:37 |
DaemonFC | the Democrats blame the Republicans who blame the Democrats | Mar 12 21:37 |
DaemonFC | perfect huh? just like now | Mar 12 21:37 |
DaemonFC | the "health bill" is "public looting" to pay off rich insurance companies and make it illegal for you to not buy insurance at the rates out there right now | Mar 12 21:38 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @carlo_piana Lessig has broken the law that says that wi-fi accessor must register with their ID: arrest him NOW #capdig | Mar 12 21:38 | |
DaemonFC | it doesn't reform the system, it only makes it illegal not to pay them, | Mar 12 21:39 |
DaemonFC | pay them now or pay the IRS penalties for not paying the insurance companies later | Mar 12 21:39 |
schestowitz | [21:35] <Omar87> schestowitz, I don't know why, but every time I watch Ballmer talking, I get a feeling that he might a drug addict.\ | Mar 12 21:40 |
DaemonFC | it's more of a gun to the head of Joe Public than it is a machete to the gobs of insurance company abuses | Mar 12 21:40 |
schestowitz | No, he's just naturally demented like that | Mar 12 21:40 |
schestowitz | Can throw chairs one moment, than leap like a bunny another moment | Mar 12 21:40 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, I know, he's funny | Mar 12 21:41 |
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DaemonFC | That's why I like him, he amuses me | Mar 12 21:41 |
schestowitz | No | Mar 12 21:41 |
schestowitz | He's infantile | Mar 12 21:41 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, exactly, that's what I'm talking about. | Mar 12 21:41 |
schestowitz | We don't need kids running commerce | Mar 12 21:41 |
schestowitz | it leads to corruption | Mar 12 21:41 |
DaemonFC | throwing chairs and hopping like a bunny makes you the CEO of Microsoft | Mar 12 21:41 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, he walks and talks just like a jellyfish. | Mar 12 21:41 |
sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 12 21:41 |
DaemonFC | usually it jsut gets you arrested and taken to the mental health clinic | Mar 12 21:41 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 12 21:42 |
schestowitz | “I think he [Bill Gates] has a Napoleonic concept of himself and his company, an arrogance that derives from power and unalloyed success, with no leavening hard experience, no reverses [...] They don’t act like grown-ups!” -Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson | Mar 12 21:42 |
Omar87 | sebsebseb, hey! | Mar 12 21:42 |
sebsebseb | Omar87: Hey | Mar 12 21:42 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: it would not be fair to the other patients who are already there | Mar 12 21:42 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Doctor to new orderly: "And this one thinks he's the CEO of Microsoft...." *Jumping up and down, hitting the walls with a chair* "WOOHOO!!! WOOHOO!!! WOOHOO!!!!" "I LOVE THIS COMPANY, YEAH!!!!!!!!!" | Mar 12 21:44 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 12 21:44 |
MinceR | you forgot an important part: "I'VE GOT FOUR WORDS FOR YOU: 'I', 'LOVE', 'THIS', 'COMPANY', 'YEAH'!!!" | Mar 12 21:46 |
DaemonFC | ahhhh | Mar 12 21:46 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, Isn't that, 5 words? | Mar 12 21:46 |
DaemonFC | Oh well, it's four if you're rich and say it's four I guess. | Mar 12 21:46 |
MinceR | indeed it is | Mar 12 21:47 |
MinceR | it shows that monkey boy can't even count | Mar 12 21:47 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, How do you feel about the idea of voting or paying a fine? | Mar 12 21:47 |
DaemonFC | do you think good things will come of that? | Mar 12 21:47 |
MinceR | i don't think anything good will come of that | Mar 12 21:48 |
DaemonFC | It's on my list of possible ways to get rid of our mayor | Mar 12 21:48 |
MinceR | except for the ones who collect the fines, of course | Mar 12 21:48 |
DaemonFC | the county council is more open to ideas to get rid of him than mot city officials | Mar 12 21:48 |
DaemonFC | higher turnout would probably get rid of him | Mar 12 21:49 |
DaemonFC | only 28% turnout in 2007 | Mar 12 21:49 |
DaemonFC | if we could get that to 100%, it would drown out his cronies maybe, right? | Mar 12 21:49 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Yes, this is just the time to get sucked into http://theworstofperth.com/ . NOTHING HAS CHANGED. Also at @theworstofperth . | Mar 12 21:49 | |
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MinceR | it seems your people aren't eager to get rid of him | Mar 12 21:50 |
DaemonFC | my other idea is move the local elections to an even numbered year to make them coincide with federal and state elections, where more people turn up anyway | Mar 12 21:50 |
DaemonFC | that would probably piss less people off | Mar 12 21:50 |
DaemonFC | but then we either have to deal with him for 5 years or have an interim election to fill his seat for that extra year | Mar 12 21:51 |
DaemonFC | which would probably give us him again for that year anyway | Mar 12 21:51 |
DaemonFC | I'm in favor of going with the elections pushed up 1 year, interim elections so nobody shouts "cheater!!!", and seeing what happens from then on | Mar 12 21:52 |
DaemonFC | we only have to deal with the fallout from changing the election year once and hopefully we never get another administration like this again | Mar 12 21:53 |
DaemonFC | some interesting candidates have placed an interest on Huntington for some reason, including for federal offices | Mar 12 21:54 |
DaemonFC | one of them even supports the flat consumption tax plan ("Fair Tax") | Mar 12 21:55 |
DaemonFC | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011328876_bombthreat13m.html | Mar 12 21:57 |
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DaemonFC | nice | Mar 12 21:57 |
DaemonFC | during the daytime? :) | Mar 12 21:57 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "Woman, 130, Wants Age-Old Guinness Record" http://ur1.ca/pfz7 120 not enough | Mar 12 21:58 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Gran Turismo 5 has night driving http://ur1.ca/pg0g #1080p | Mar 12 22:02 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @videolan An example not to follow for us: Ubuntu changing window buttons place 1 day before User Interface Freeze http://bit.ly/cDYwnq | Mar 12 22:07 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6_b-72H3E&feature=related | Mar 12 22:17 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Remember the kangaroo beer sign from "The Last Continent"? The original: http://theworstofperth.com/2010/02/15/hop-like-a-butterfly/ | Mar 12 22:18 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.medsphere.com/stimulus-roi-calculator | Mar 12 22:28 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, How many warnings do you figure would be generated were Microsoft to compile all of Windows with GCC? | Mar 12 22:31 |
DaemonFC | just as a pointless question | Mar 12 22:31 |
schestowitz | It won't compile | Mar 12 22:32 |
schestowitz | Hacks and other P/Ls | Mar 12 22:32 |
DaemonFC | it's C++ largely, right? | Mar 12 22:33 |
DaemonFC | not standard compliant enough? | Mar 12 22:33 |
schestowitz | It'll fail before producing errors | Mar 12 22:33 |
schestowitz | You can't quantify this stuff | Mar 12 22:33 |
DaemonFC | so you think they'd have to spend a lot of effort to make it standard C++ before the compiler would even take it? | Mar 12 22:34 |
DaemonFC | that is bad :P | Mar 12 22:34 |
DaemonFC | so their compilers that they use internally are very forgiving of errors and non-standard code? | Mar 12 22:35 |
DaemonFC | That explains where the security problems come in | Mar 12 22:35 |
DaemonFC | hmmm | Mar 12 22:39 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, How compatible with OpenGL 3.3 are 3.2 cards? | Mar 12 22:39 |
DaemonFC | is this like for hardware support of a lot of OpenGL 4 stuff on existing cards? | Mar 12 22:40 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @hook: #Microsoft - #Slovenian government agreement includes an anti-#FOSS clause! #FSFE | Mar 12 22:40 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Pergunto-me se o mesmo se passou em Portugal... | Mar 12 22:41 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ZOMG #followfriday has been imported into #identica and I was mentioned! (thanks, btw) :) | Mar 12 22:48 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Ubuntu attacks detractors of their new commercialized features by proxy apparently, including name-calling. | Mar 12 22:49 |
DaemonFC | http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/37488-canonical-speaks-to-the-commercial-debate | Mar 12 22:49 |
DaemonFC | Calling detractor's "unhinged" after boiling down their argument to "Nazi Nazi!!!" | Mar 12 22:50 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] MS Bong is still a "decision engine"..that is unless it can beat Google...then Im sure MS will change it. #microsoft #bing #fail | Mar 12 22:50 | |
DaemonFC | apparently detractors of this behavior are "poorly educated" and "illogical" | Mar 12 22:51 |
DaemonFC | jono_, Is that your company's official point of view since you agreed to directly involve yourselves with this article? | Mar 12 22:51 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Bing - according to the dictionary is "A heap or a pile"......yep sounds about right to me. #microsoft #bing #fail | Mar 12 22:51 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Why do I bring up Bing? Because Ive seen it pimped on Sky TV today more times than a "no win no fee" ad. #bing #fail #microsoft | Mar 12 22:52 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Anyway enough talk about MS Bing (or Bong) and time for bed.. | Mar 12 22:53 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin MS Bob Hope, the Indecision Engine! | Mar 12 22:57 | |
schestowitz | http://www.bradcolbow.com/archive.php/?p=205 | Mar 12 22:57 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] @_Goblin I mean, at least Wolfram Alpha has stuff it's the best at. | Mar 12 22:58 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wikileaks WikiLeaks is 2/3rds of the way towards budget. Come on guys! Donate! <-- I have done so. DONATE, you overpaid geeks. | Mar 12 22:58 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin gn | Mar 12 22:59 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Entourage is almost certainly not copyleft hardware, but I wonder if Free Software can run in it unhindered... | Mar 12 22:59 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFOX: http://www.opengl.org/news/permalink/khronos-unleashes-cutting-edge-cross-platform-graphics-acceleration-with-op/ | Mar 12 23:01 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Brilliant! RT @picturecool South African Artists Graffiti Walls By Scrubbing Them Clean #photo http://bit.ly/cI7NrB | Mar 12 23:01 | |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Now that the #Apple #iPad is out, where are the !Linux using clones? 7-10" touchscreen plus 10-15h battery would be nice to have around | Mar 12 23:02 | |
schestowitz | is this substantiated? http://politics.slashdot.org/story/10/03/11/1917218/Bill-To-Ban-All-Salt-In-Restaurant-Cooking | Mar 12 23:03 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @davidgerard Brilliant! RT @picturecool South African Artists Graffiti Walls By Scrubbing Them Clean #photo http://bit.ly/cI7NrB | Mar 12 23:04 | |
schestowitz | http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/03/12/0210248/Zeus-Botnet-Down-But-Not-Out?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 "Almost without exception, the hosts themselves run Windows." | Mar 12 23:05 |
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schestowitz | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9169678/IBM_stops_disclosing_U.S._headcount_data | Mar 12 23:08 |
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schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gKrY51vO2V86xiICf35Q05J0FIEAD9ED1NF80 | Mar 12 23:09 |
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schestowitz | http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/bentley/amazons-1-click-patent-validated-after-four-year-re-examination/?cs=39994 | Mar 12 23:10 |
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schestowitz | Money down the drain, eye sore to many of us: http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/03/08/microsoft-to-spend-2-billion-on-bing-ads-in-the-uk | Mar 12 23:11 |
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schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/03/10/schmidt-on-china-something-will-happen-soon | Mar 12 23:13 |
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schestowitz | Sony 3D TVs to be launched in Japan in June | Mar 12 23:16 |
WireWulf | wee | Mar 12 23:17 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Yeah, New York City has been banning transfats by statute for years now | Mar 12 23:17 |
DaemonFC | now they want to move to salt | Mar 12 23:17 |
DaemonFC | they think that if they ban tasty things, their state programs like Medicaid will go down in cost | Mar 12 23:19 |
DaemonFC | I think they should be banning all cigarettes if they want that | Mar 12 23:19 |
DaemonFC | :) | Mar 12 23:19 |
DaemonFC | salt isn't costing them 1/1000th the cost of cigarette smoking | Mar 12 23:19 |
DaemonFC | but they get taxes from cigarettes | Mar 12 23:20 |
DaemonFC | and if they banned them, people would just buy them from states with no ban | Mar 12 23:20 |
Diablo-D3 | banning cigarettes would be too easy | Mar 12 23:20 |
Diablo-D3 | the government cant do that | Mar 12 23:20 |
MinceR | "salt is not good for you, hence, it is illegal." | Mar 12 23:22 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, Michael Bloomberg, the Benevolent Dictator For Life of New York City, has also bee making up laws to take handguns from people in violation of the 2nd Amendment, and costing city taxpayers millions of dollars to fight and lose in court so the law is now unenforceable | Mar 12 23:25 |
DaemonFC | The problem is, MinceR, that so many liberals live in New York City, they'll never get rid of him | Mar 12 23:26 |
DaemonFC | and this salt ban could easily pass | Mar 12 23:26 |
MinceR | this is what you usians call "liberal"? | Mar 12 23:26 |
DaemonFC | not on a state level, but it'll end up being a fiat rule by the New York City Board of Health | Mar 12 23:26 |
DaemonFC | pretty much | Mar 12 23:27 |
MinceR | damn, you're pretty advanced in newspeak already | Mar 12 23:27 |
MinceR | naturally associating banning salt with "liberty" | Mar 12 23:27 |
DaemonFC | or the passage of unconstitutional laws | Mar 12 23:28 |
DaemonFC | don't forget that | Mar 12 23:28 |
schestowitz | These T-shirts are sooo stupid http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2010/03/linux_open_a_cl.html | Mar 12 23:28 |
DaemonFC | millions of tax dollars spent fighting a court battle that is lost | Mar 12 23:28 |
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DaemonFC | having the Supreme Court strike it down | Mar 12 23:28 |
schestowitz | [23:22] <MinceR> "salt is not good for you, hence, it is illegal." | Mar 12 23:28 |
schestowitz | No, you can use it | Mar 12 23:28 |
DaemonFC | people in New York City are stupid enough to put up with this shit, MinceR | Mar 12 23:29 |
schestowitz | You can also add it as condiment | Mar 12 23:29 |
DaemonFC | that's the problem | Mar 12 23:29 |
schestowitz | But restaurants won't force it upon you | Mar 12 23:29 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Some recipes need salt and adding it is not the same | Mar 12 23:29 |
DaemonFC | that's the problem | Mar 12 23:29 |
DaemonFC | besides, "gtfo out what I decide to eat" is my objection | Mar 12 23:30 |
schestowitz | Examples? | Mar 12 23:30 |
schestowitz | Fried still come with salt separately | Mar 12 23:30 |
schestowitz | At least in junk 'food' shops | Mar 12 23:30 |
DaemonFC | pouring salt granules over some food is unappetizing and does not taste the same | Mar 12 23:30 |
schestowitz | *Fries | Mar 12 23:30 |
DaemonFC | but gtfo is still my answer | Mar 12 23:31 |
DaemonFC | if I want to eat it, fuck off! | Mar 12 23:31 |
DaemonFC | :) | Mar 12 23:31 |
schestowitz | Salt is not natural for eating | Mar 12 23:31 |
DaemonFC | so? | Mar 12 23:31 |
schestowitz | Just some mineral like that crap they put in chips | Mar 12 23:31 |
DaemonFC | condos aren't natural for fucking | Mar 12 23:31 |
DaemonFC | :) | Mar 12 23:31 |
DaemonFC | *condoms | Mar 12 23:31 |
DaemonFC | they should be banned | Mar 12 23:31 |
DaemonFC | is that your argument? | Mar 12 23:31 |
schestowitz | Body doesn't digest them well | Mar 12 23:31 |
schestowitz | Not edible | Mar 12 23:31 |
schestowitz | Not same issue | Mar 12 23:32 |
DaemonFC | something isn't natural? | Mar 12 23:32 |
DaemonFC | computers don't occur in nature | Mar 12 23:32 |
schestowitz | It's about what you put in your stomach | Mar 12 23:32 |
schestowitz | You could eat rust | Mar 12 23:32 |
schestowitz | for iron | Mar 12 23:32 |
DaemonFC | TVs don't occur in nature | Mar 12 23:32 |
schestowitz | Doesn't mean it's good | Mar 12 23:32 |
DaemonFC | cars don't occur in nature | Mar 12 23:32 |
DaemonFC | salt does occur in nature | Mar 12 23:32 |
schestowitz | You eat cars? | Mar 12 23:32 |
DaemonFC | salt is necessary to live | Mar 12 23:32 |
DaemonFC | lets ban the rest of the electrolytes | Mar 12 23:32 |
DaemonFC | potassium even | Mar 12 23:33 |
DaemonFC | especially potassium chloride! | Mar 12 23:33 |
DaemonFC | that's a definite no no | Mar 12 23:33 |
DaemonFC | then we should ban vitamins, schestowitz because too much of certain vitamins will kill you | Mar 12 23:33 |
DaemonFC | deefinitely not good for continued health | Mar 12 23:34 |
Aondo | http://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_oliver.html - i enjoyed this talk, some what related i think | Mar 12 23:34 |
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DaemonFC | food made with added vitamins should be banned | Mar 12 23:34 |
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DaemonFC | the government should have no power to say what I eat beyond enforcing the basic health code as standards for restaurant operation | Mar 12 23:35 |
DaemonFC | ever | Mar 12 23:35 |
DaemonFC | salmonella is definitely not tasty and will hospitalize me within hours, they should have the power to ban things like that | Mar 12 23:36 |
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DaemonFC | :) | Mar 12 23:36 |
schestowitz | http://www.ovum.com/news/euronews.asp?id=8461 | Mar 12 23:36 |
schestowitz | BN wins | Mar 12 23:36 |
MinceR | let's ban Dihydrogen Monoxide, too | Mar 12 23:38 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, Certainly you don't agree that your government is within its rights to tell you that every meal has to be a salad | Mar 12 23:38 |
MinceR | let's tell people what they're allowed to eat and call ourselves "liberal" | Mar 12 23:38 |
DaemonFC | that's what the liberals in New York are moving towards | Mar 12 23:38 |
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DaemonFC | and you can't use just any dressing on that salad | Mar 12 23:39 |
DaemonFC | it has to be non-fat | Mar 12 23:39 |
schestowitz | Ender2070: http://www.pcworld.com/article/191341/red_hat_exchange.html | Mar 12 23:39 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Red Hat Exchange - PCWorld .::. Size~: 45.64 KB | Mar 12 23:39 |
DaemonFC | and it can't have any cheese on it | Mar 12 23:39 |
schestowitz | Chicken maybe? | Mar 12 23:40 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, The liberals won't be satisfied until all we can eat is grass | Mar 12 23:40 |
schestowitz | Hair salad? | Mar 12 23:40 |
DaemonFC | and grazing out on the front lawn like the sheep we are | Mar 12 23:40 |
schestowitz | Wool? | Mar 12 23:40 |
schestowitz | Molten wool? | Mar 12 23:41 |
schestowitz | A UK barber was arrested for recycling hair | Mar 12 23:41 |
schestowitz | http://www.ecofriend.org/entry/chair-made-by-recycling-discarded-hair/ | Mar 12 23:42 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Chair Made By Recycling Discarded Hair! - Ecofriend .::. Size~: 48.53 KB | Mar 12 23:42 |
DaemonFC | vegans piss me off, the best vegan is worse than the most militant non-smoker | Mar 12 23:42 |
schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/378296/ | Mar 12 23:43 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Embedded Linux Conference 2010 Program is available [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 11.79 KB | Mar 12 23:43 |
schestowitz | *LMAO* | Mar 12 23:43 |
schestowitz | " | Mar 12 23:43 |
schestowitz | * Matt Asay - Canonical COO and long-time open source strategist | Mar 12 23:43 |
schestowitz | and blogger for CNET will talk about "Embedded in 2010: an End to | Mar 12 23:43 |
schestowitz | the Entropy?" | Mar 12 23:43 |
schestowitz | " | Mar 12 23:43 |
schestowitz | Will he present on a Mac and brag about PPT? | Mar 12 23:43 |
DaemonFC | PETA rushing in with their "Meat is murder act and "stabbing a cow" to death in front of small children in Burger King | Mar 12 23:44 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz, That's how you know I am stable enough for gun ownership | Mar 12 23:44 |
schestowitz | DaemonFOX: piss off both by smoking a meat cigar | Mar 12 23:44 |
schestowitz | Now cow | Mar 12 23:45 |
schestowitz | Beef | Mar 12 23:45 |
schestowitz | Pig->pork | Mar 12 23:45 |
schestowitz | mutton... | Mar 12 23:45 |
schestowitz | We have names | Mar 12 23:45 |
DaemonFC | lamb | Mar 12 23:45 |
schestowitz | Euphemisms | Mar 12 23:45 |
DaemonFC | mmmmhmmmm | Mar 12 23:45 |
DaemonFC | LAMB | Mar 12 23:45 |
DaemonFC | tasty lamb | Mar 12 23:45 |
schestowitz | Hmmmmmmmm...... germs | Mar 12 23:45 |
DaemonFC | yes, I eat lamb | Mar 12 23:45 |
schestowitz | "Me loves me lamb!" | Mar 12 23:45 |
schestowitz | "Me eats me cow Betsy" | Mar 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | yep | Mar 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | with fries | Mar 12 23:46 |
schestowitz | Lt me find a TJ vid | Mar 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | and lots of salt on those fries | Mar 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | cause I fucking CAN!!! | Mar 12 23:46 |
DaemonFC | :D | Mar 12 23:46 |
schestowitz | http://www.betsythecow.com/ | Mar 12 23:46 |
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DaemonFC | they should strap some vegans down, schestowitz pin their eyes open, and make them watch me eat a classic triple | Mar 12 23:47 |
DaemonFC | from Wendys | Mar 12 23:47 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 12 23:47 |
DaemonFC | fuckers | Mar 12 23:47 |
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DaemonFC | yes MinceR these annoying overly opinionated assholes who proceed to rape you with nonsense is a US liberal | Mar 12 23:48 |
schestowitz | I give up | Mar 12 23:49 |
schestowitz | I can't find videos... no search. | Mar 12 23:49 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmN3ELvsdjs | Mar 12 23:49 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- God Is Evil .::. Size~: 160 KB | Mar 12 23:49 |
DaemonFC | and the law forbids me from shooting them to make them stop talking | Mar 12 23:49 |
MinceR | with "liberals" like these, who needs authoritarians? | Mar 12 23:49 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, They are authoritarians | Mar 12 23:49 |
DaemonFC | heavy handed left-wing authoritarians | Mar 12 23:49 |
MinceR | of course they are | Mar 12 23:50 |
schestowitz | Liver Als | Mar 12 23:50 |
MinceR | every mainstream political group in jesusland is authoritarian | Mar 12 23:50 |
schestowitz | Brand Obama too? | Mar 12 23:50 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, The Libertarian party isn't | Mar 12 23:50 |
schestowitz | It shrank, no? | Mar 12 23:50 |
schestowitz | I watched many videos about them | Mar 12 23:51 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: and that's mainstream? | Mar 12 23:51 |
schestowitz | They schemed entryism into Republicans recently | Mar 12 23:51 |
schestowitz | Like Ron Paul maybe | Mar 12 23:51 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, No, more like the first also-ran | Mar 12 23:51 |
schestowitz | Vetura can join Crackpot Party | Mar 12 23:51 |
schestowitz | *ven | Mar 12 23:51 |
DaemonFC | http://www.lp.org/platform | Mar 12 23:51 |
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DaemonFC | I'd vote for Ventura | Mar 12 23:52 |
DaemonFC | Ventura is awesome | Mar 12 23:52 |
schestowitz | Mainstream make it sound like a TV/PR campaign.. wait, it is! | Mar 12 23:52 |
DaemonFC | "We, the members of the Libertarian Party, challenge the cult of the omnipotent state and defend the rights of the individual." | Mar 12 23:52 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, Guess I have to agree with them there | Mar 12 23:52 |
*schestowitz thinks DaemonFOX lied about the "platonic" thing | Mar 12 23:52 | |
*lantizia (~lantizia@93-97-23-110.zone5.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Mar 12 23:53 | |
DaemonFC | I don't like the "all powerful state", with the "Conservatives" and the "Liberals" offering versions of it that are equally bad | Mar 12 23:53 |
schestowitz | "A wrist watch is so 19th century. Surely, you can wear a Linux or Windows CE computer instead. With the ZYPAD WL 11XX, you can. " v | Mar 12 23:53 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191279/no_its_not_a_rolex.html | Mar 12 23:53 |
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schestowitz | Oversized SPOT watch | Mar 12 23:53 |
lantizia | I take it boycotting novell would include Evolution? | Mar 12 23:53 |
schestowitz | No | Mar 12 23:53 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] http://is.gd/ap82U has generated some really interesting discussion about if the Internet should be a human right #shotofjaq | Mar 12 23:53 | |
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lantizia | howcome? | Mar 12 23:53 |
schestowitz | Free software, no Mono traps excluding extensions | Mar 12 23:54 |
MinceR | gn | Mar 12 23:54 |
DaemonFC | Evolution isn't dependent on Novell or Mono, and is part of GNOME | Mar 12 23:54 |
DaemonFC | probably | Mar 12 23:54 |
DaemonFC | :) | Mar 12 23:54 |
bruce89 | until recently, Evolution required copyright assignement, but that's no longer the case | Mar 12 23:54 |
lantizia | Evolution is still the product of Ximian... those who made Mono | Mar 12 23:54 |
MinceR | it isn't dependent on mono and it's officially part of GNOME Office | Mar 12 23:55 |
lantizia | heavily developed and geared to novell however | Mar 12 23:55 |
lantizia | like the groupwise support | Mar 12 23:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/32016/hard-drives-to-gain-xp-slowdowns "Leopard, Snow Leopard and versions of the Linux kernel released after September 2009 should all work fine." | Mar 12 23:55 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Hard drive update means XP slowdowns - Pocket-lint .::. Size~: 41.11 KB | Mar 12 23:55 |
bruce89 | actually, it's in GNOME GNOME, not GNOME office | Mar 12 23:55 |
bruce89 | http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentynine/Desktop | Mar 12 23:56 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: TwoPointTwentynine/Desktop - GNOME Live! .::. Size~: 45.08 KB | Mar 12 23:56 |
lantizia | So... Was Ximian... then Novell... now GNOME... but a lot of donations and coding to that purely GNOME project comes from Novell | Mar 12 23:57 |
lantizia | that fair? | Mar 12 23:57 |
bruce89 | yes | Mar 12 23:57 |
lantizia | despite at least wikipedia listing develops as GNOME and Novell and the mac/windows builds being entirely novell and outside the realm of GNOME | Mar 12 23:58 |
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