ender2070 | he probably enjoys mono too | Mar 21 00:00 |
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_goblin | Ubuntu - Gutsy Gates ver | Mar 21 00:00 |
DaemonFC | one may be a little sweeter, but they're both the same thing | Mar 21 00:00 |
Sir_Konrad | ender2070: I know he uses Macs, and he thinks the MS website is disgusting. | Mar 21 00:00 |
Sir_Konrad | DaemonFC: then what do you think of BSD? | Mar 21 00:00 |
ender2070 | Sir_Konrad - LOL i knew he runs macs since Y2k | Mar 21 00:00 |
_goblin | daemonfc: I think if its treated early it has no long term health effects | Mar 21 00:00 |
DaemonFC | Well, free software tends to promote a lot of duplication of effort | Mar 21 00:00 |
ender2070 | Sir_Konrad - he claimed to be safe from the Y2k bug | Mar 21 00:00 |
DaemonFC | but it's not like proprietary software doesn't | Mar 21 00:01 |
Sir_Konrad | lol | Mar 21 00:01 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: we7 do open formats as well? :D | Mar 21 00:01 |
Sir_Konrad | DaemonFC: http://opensource.apple.com/ | Mar 21 00:01 |
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Sir_Konrad | g2g eat dinner bbl | Mar 21 00:01 |
ender2070 | DaemonFC - If I had to choose between Apple or MS i'd choose Apple. | Mar 21 00:01 |
DaemonFC | doesn't count | Mar 21 00:01 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, couldn't tell you...only use the site to stream... | Mar 21 00:01 |
MinceR | Sir_Konrad: yes, it isn't m$, it's something that's very similar to m$. | Mar 21 00:01 |
DaemonFC | nobody uses it but Apple | Mar 21 00:01 |
ender2070 | DaemonFC - but since linux exists, never! hahahahaha | Mar 21 00:01 |
_goblin | My wife has a Mac... | Mar 21 00:02 |
_goblin | she is very happy with it. | Mar 21 00:02 |
Diablo-D3 | I dont mind people owning macs | Mar 21 00:02 |
ender2070 | I have a friend with a hackintosh though, quite amusing | Mar 21 00:02 |
Diablo-D3 | I'd rather the world be filled with macs than windows machines | Mar 21 00:02 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: right well, she is probably not that technical also, so no wonder | Mar 21 00:02 |
ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - same here | Mar 21 00:02 |
DaemonFC | If Darwin was awesome code wit ha decent license, other people would be using at least some of it | Mar 21 00:02 |
Diablo-D3 | you can hate apple all you want, but at least their OS isn't a gigantic pile of shit | Mar 21 00:02 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, I think its more a status symbol... | Mar 21 00:03 |
MinceR | at least some windows pcs can be cleansed of the stupid with a gnu/linux install | Mar 21 00:03 |
Diablo-D3 | I dont care OSX is essentially closed source | Mar 21 00:03 |
MinceR | crApple hardware will remain crApple hardware | Mar 21 00:03 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: well loads of chavs by their Macs and such, thinking they are so "cool" or whatever | Mar 21 00:03 |
Diablo-D3 | I really dont | Mar 21 00:03 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, fair play though, it hasn't messed up and she is known for ruining computer systems. | Mar 21 00:03 |
ender2070 | Mincer - not true, you can install linux on any apple | Mar 21 00:03 |
DaemonFC | The fact that nobody else will touch Darwin kind of speaks for its technical quality | Mar 21 00:03 |
Diablo-D3 | closed source _that actually works right_ is completely fine with me | Mar 21 00:03 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: buy not by above, little typeo there | Mar 21 00:03 |
Diablo-D3 | its also rare. | Mar 21 00:03 |
Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: no one has a use for darwin | Mar 21 00:03 |
MinceR | ender2070: yes i can, but the hw will still be just as shoddy | Mar 21 00:03 |
ender2070 | Mincer - look up some old Linus Torvalds interviews about what pc he owned, you'll be surprised (yes he owned a mac) | Mar 21 00:03 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: well yeah OS X, Unix based so yeah | Mar 21 00:03 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, do chavs have the money for Macs these days? | Mar 21 00:04 |
MinceR | ender2070: and macos will still be paid for | Mar 21 00:04 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: some of them yeah | Mar 21 00:04 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, ah. | Mar 21 00:04 |
MinceR | ender2070: i don't idolize Linus | Mar 21 00:04 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: or many of them even | Mar 21 00:04 |
ender2070 | Mincer - Linus Torvalds used to own a mac | Mar 21 00:04 |
MinceR | ender2070: that's his problem, not mine | Mar 21 00:04 |
_goblin | so did columbo | Mar 21 00:04 |
ender2070 | Mincer - idolize or not, its possible - thats all im saying | Mar 21 00:04 |
MinceR | so what? i bought a dell, yet i'm still saying that dells suck (if only i knew before deciding to buy it) | Mar 21 00:05 |
ender2070 | Mincer - and there was nothing wrong with the hardware inside powerpc macs, it was ibm technology | Mar 21 00:05 |
MinceR | MBPs aren't PPC | Mar 21 00:05 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: thing is really for most average computer users, with a bit of set up help, they can do what they want on a computer, with a Linux distro | Mar 21 00:05 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191888/study_twitter_may_have_jumped_the_shark.html?tk=rss_news | Mar 21 00:05 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: do what they want to do, or most of it anyway, and if not well, Windows virtual machine for example | Mar 21 00:05 |
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schestowitz | [23:57] <Sir_Konrad> MinceR: heck, it's not Microsoft. :D | Mar 21 00:06 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: however even then really they will be doing what they want to do on a computer, with a Linux distro :D | Mar 21 00:06 |
schestowitz | As I say, Apple ="anti Microsoft" | Mar 21 00:06 |
MinceR | nope | Mar 21 00:06 |
MinceR | it's "little micro$oft" | Mar 21 00:06 |
schestowitz | Linux="anti non-Freedom software" | Mar 21 00:06 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: oh Windows can be a pretty useful tool inside a Linux distro as a virtual machine, at times | Mar 21 00:06 |
MinceR | mostly the same unethical tactics pulled off with less competence | Mar 21 00:06 |
MinceR | FUD, lock-in, tying | Mar 21 00:06 |
MinceR | the same contempt for the user's intellect | Mar 21 00:07 |
ender2070 | mincer - i agree with iphone and ipad | Mar 21 00:07 |
MinceR | ripping off xerox and claiming they invented everything the same way | Mar 21 00:07 |
ender2070 | we rip off ms and apple | Mar 21 00:07 |
MinceR | you do? | Mar 21 00:07 |
ender2070 | not me personally | Mar 21 00:08 |
ender2070 | look at gnome dude | Mar 21 00:08 |
ender2070 | look at kde | Mar 21 00:08 |
MinceR | oh, almost forgot the excessive reliance on marketing to sell crap | Mar 21 00:08 |
schestowitz | Apple attacks company | Mar 21 00:08 |
ender2070 | they all use windows, icons, etc | Mar 21 00:08 |
schestowitz | Linux addres a bad a phenomenon | Mar 21 00:08 |
MinceR | ender2070: and none of that came from m$ nor from crApple | Mar 21 00:08 |
ender2070 | everyone uses a mouse | Mar 21 00:08 |
schestowitz | Apple is "another evil" | Mar 21 00:08 |
schestowitz | Like IBM | Mar 21 00:08 |
ender2070 | thats all stuff apple and ms stole from xerox | Mar 21 00:08 |
schestowitz | Apple attacks Linux now | Mar 21 00:08 |
MinceR | ibm is a lot less evil than crApple or m$ | Mar 21 00:09 |
schestowitz | Mucb to MS' chagrin | Mar 21 00:09 |
ender2070 | good artists create, great artists steal | Mar 21 00:09 |
MinceR | also, ibm seems to be on our side | Mar 21 00:09 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to: Rock Me Amadeus - Classic! | Mar 21 00:09 | |
ender2070 | mincer - im agreeing with you | Mar 21 00:09 |
ender2070 | IBM isn't another ever, its on our side | Mar 21 00:10 |
ender2070 | evil* | Mar 21 00:10 |
schestowitz | I like Steve Jobs... | Mar 21 00:10 |
schestowitz | In cheese form | Mar 21 00:10 |
schestowitz | It probably smells but tastes nice | Mar 21 00:10 |
sebsebseb | Loads of you seem to like Twitter a lot that come here, even though it's propritary :D | Mar 21 00:10 |
ender2070 | i hate twitter | Mar 21 00:11 |
schestowitz | http://www.walyou.com/blog/2010/03/20/steve-jobs-cheese-head/ | Mar 21 00:11 |
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schestowitz | sebsebseb: I use identica | Mar 21 00:11 |
ender2070 | identi.ca is better | Mar 21 00:11 |
schestowitz | It sends copies to Twitter | Mar 21 00:11 |
sebsebseb | plus like Facebook it may have/get security/privacy issues | Mar 21 00:11 |
schestowitz | I was in Identica first | Mar 21 00:11 |
ender2070 | identi.ca is easier to follow too | Mar 21 00:11 |
schestowitz | True | Mar 21 00:11 |
ender2070 | especially when people reply to each other | Mar 21 00:11 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: I am typing this stuff, since the amount of BNtwitter notices I see here | Mar 21 00:11 |
schestowitz | It has more features in some areas | Mar 21 00:12 |
schestowitz | ender2070: yes, that one | Mar 21 00:12 |
schestowitz | mail alerts too | Mar 21 00:12 |
sebsebseb | BNtwitter notices | Mar 21 00:12 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - its likely twitter has more clients | Mar 21 00:12 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: open an account in identica | Mar 21 00:12 |
schestowitz | You'll be syndicated here | Mar 21 00:12 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: what ou mean syndicated here? | Mar 21 00:12 |
schestowitz | S even when you're out of IRC you'll be around here | Mar 21 00:12 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: on BNi | Mar 21 00:13 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah, but why would I want to sign up on such a site, and do pointless messages? | Mar 21 00:13 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191893/fake_macbook_air_big_iphone_tablet_on_show_in_china.html?tk=rss_news | Mar 21 00:13 |
phIRCe-BNc | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191893/fake_macbook_air_big_iphone_tablet_on_show_in_china.html?tk=rss_news | Mar 21 00:13 |
schestowitz | Weird. | Mar 21 00:13 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191893/fake_macbook_air_big_iphone_tablet_on_show_in_china.html?tk=rss_news | Mar 21 00:13 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Fake MacBook Air, 'big IPhone' Tablet on Show in China - PCWorld .::. Size~: 67.37 KB | Mar 21 00:13 |
schestowitz | But Apple products ARE made in CHina! | Mar 21 00:13 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: tell the world what I am doing blah de blah | Mar 21 00:13 |
schestowitz | By children even | Mar 21 00:14 |
MinceR | what happened to the _other_ Twitter? | Mar 21 00:14 |
sebsebseb | seriosuly though who would care much? | Mar 21 00:14 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: "good morning, world" | Mar 21 00:14 |
schestowitz | "g'day" | Mar 21 00:14 |
schestowitz | "Going to the bathroom" | Mar 21 00:14 |
schestowitz | "Goes to pat puppy on head" | Mar 21 00:14 |
schestowitz | "OMG! example.org and ponies a' stuff!" | Mar 21 00:15 |
sebsebseb | I am not exactly famous or sort of famous like jono or popey and people like that are, and even you schestowitz to an extent, hence why I suppouse your site got attacked before, because they didn't like your message. | Mar 21 00:15 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: So what do you usee? Twitter? Facebook? indenti ca? | Mar 21 00:15 |
sebsebseb | what do you use, above | Mar 21 00:15 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, Twitter mainly....I gave up a bit on Identi.ca | Mar 21 00:16 |
ender2070 | im probably going to make a identi.ca account for pwnage.ca | Mar 21 00:16 |
_goblin | I was on facebook.... | Mar 21 00:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191909/palm_ceo_we_could_have_been_bigger_than_droid.html?tk=rss_news | Mar 21 00:16 |
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sebsebseb | _goblin: Why are you using those sites? | Mar 21 00:16 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, what Twitter? | Mar 21 00:16 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: yeah | Mar 21 00:16 |
schestowitz | _goblin: use both | Mar 21 00:16 |
sebsebseb | and Facebook and identi cas | Mar 21 00:16 |
schestowitz | You can set it up such that both are kept in synch | Mar 21 00:16 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: also are you anoymous on them or not? | Mar 21 00:17 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, as you can appreciate I didn't link my facebook, for reasons that I think you understand. | Mar 21 00:17 |
schestowitz | trmanco had me use ping.fm for a while | Mar 21 00:17 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, I am under my proper name on facebook. | Mar 21 00:17 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: I see like most people then | Mar 21 00:17 |
_goblin | sebsebseb, buts its only family its linked to. | Mar 21 00:17 |
ender2070 | I used to be on facebook under my real name way too dangerous | Mar 21 00:17 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: yeah I am not so keen on the idea of using a real name on those kind of sites either | Mar 21 00:18 |
schestowitz | In this news: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/16/fbi-facebook-crime-study | Mar 21 00:18 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] 2 issues with http://bit.ly/88uwB 1) I have to get up at 6AM to make it. 2) The leg of lamb I have wont fit in my slow cooker. Hmmm.. | Mar 21 00:18 | |
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schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/17/mafia_suspect_tracked_via_facebook/ | Mar 21 00:18 |
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schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191927/apple_facebook_get_into_geolocation.html?tk=rss_main | Mar 21 00:18 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Apple, Facebook Get Into Geolocation - PCWorld .::. Size~: 75.53 KB | Mar 21 00:18 |
sebsebseb | ender2070: Way to dangerous how? | Mar 21 00:18 |
ender2070 | lol look above | Mar 21 00:18 |
_goblin | one thing I will say.....I see no point in keeping it secret....if anyone is wondering what my real name is, its Tim. | Mar 21 00:18 |
ender2070 | _goblin - i use pseudonym online | Mar 21 00:18 |
_goblin | or Timothy when Im in the wifes bad books. | Mar 21 00:19 |
sebsebseb | ender2070: what's that? | Mar 21 00:19 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - its a pen name, if you've heard of that term | Mar 21 00:19 |
sebsebseb | ender2070: pen name no not hard of that term, but I guess you mean a made up name? | Mar 21 00:19 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - yes a made up name, a lot of authors do it | Mar 21 00:19 |
schestowitz | Timblin | Mar 21 00:20 |
sebsebseb | I am Sebastian, and i'll keep my middle names and sur name secret :) | Mar 21 00:20 |
schestowitz | Like Moblin | Mar 21 00:20 |
schestowitz | Goblin Mobile | Mar 21 00:20 |
schestowitz | TimGo | Mar 21 00:20 |
schestowitz | Like Meego | Mar 21 00:20 |
schestowitz | Moblin+Maemo | Mar 21 00:20 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - cool :) | Mar 21 00:20 |
schestowitz | Tomblin | Mar 21 00:20 |
_goblin | Timblin | Mar 21 00:20 |
_goblin | thats cool. | Mar 21 00:21 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - i learned at an early age its stupid to put your real name online | Mar 21 00:21 |
sebsebseb | This is one of my few online names :D | Mar 21 00:21 |
schestowitz | Linux in a tomb | Mar 21 00:21 |
schestowitz | _goblin: sounds too similar to timbl | Mar 21 00:21 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - any political enemies can get you | Mar 21 00:21 |
schestowitz | timbl is the alias of Sir Tim B-L | Mar 21 00:21 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - damage your real life rep | Mar 21 00:21 |
sebsebseb | ender2070: Well first names aren't a big deal, but sur names should protect, espesialy if not a common sur name. | Mar 21 00:21 |
MinceR | "timbl" makes Tim Berners-Lee sound very web2.0-ish | Mar 21 00:22 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - this is why i wont register a domain under anything but .ca too | Mar 21 00:22 |
_goblin | schestowitz: One day we will have to talk on phone....I met up with someone who I think you know, luckily he didn't realize who I was (I was at work at the time) | Mar 21 00:22 |
sebsebseb | ender2070: what's that about domain name? | Mar 21 00:22 |
schestowitz | MinceR: yeah | Mar 21 00:22 |
MinceR | ender2070: why is .ca special? | Mar 21 00:22 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - privacy is more strict in canada, .ca requires a court order to get the information | Mar 21 00:22 |
schestowitz | His wife flickrs him | Mar 21 00:22 |
_goblin | sounds painful | Mar 21 00:22 |
sebsebseb | ender2070: oh | Mar 21 00:22 |
schestowitz | RandR 2.0 | Mar 21 00:22 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - do a whois on pwnage.ca | Mar 21 00:23 |
MinceR | randr 2.0 BETA? | Mar 21 00:23 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: your using your real name though? | Mar 21 00:23 |
schestowitz | Renewal date: 2010/12/31 | Mar 21 00:23 |
schestowitz | sebsebseb: yes | Mar 21 00:23 |
schestowitz | So Brandon is a fake name? | Mar 21 00:23 |
DaemonFC | "What do you mean they cut the power!? How could they cut the power man!? They're animals!!!" | Mar 21 00:23 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 21 00:23 |
schestowitz | It's not fake | Mar 21 00:23 |
MinceR | or even randr | Mar 21 00:23 |
sebsebseb | schestowitz: yeah and on other websites, peole have already faked to be you? you told me before | Mar 21 00:24 |
ender2070 | ill give you my first name is Brandon | Mar 21 00:24 |
sebsebseb | ender2070: I guess famous people are useually alright using their real names though | Mar 21 00:24 |
_goblin | how about..... | Mar 21 00:24 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - a lot of celebrities obscure their real names using middle names | Mar 21 00:25 |
schestowitz | Puff Daddy | Mar 21 00:25 |
ender2070 | sebsebseb - look up tom cruise | Mar 21 00:25 |
_goblin | everyone for the next few minutes changes their handle to their first name? A little sad I know but maybe a little fun? | Mar 21 00:25 |
DaemonFC | puffery | Mar 21 00:25 |
schestowitz | "Mr. Daddy, would you like to reserve a room, Sir?" | Mar 21 00:25 |
sebsebseb | _goblin: ok | Mar 21 00:25 |
MinceR | ender2070: whoa, .ca policy is nice. do you know any other TLDs with that policy? | Mar 21 00:25 |
schestowitz | Sean Combs | Mar 21 00:25 |
*_goblin is now known as ____Tim | Mar 21 00:25 | |
*sebsebseb is now known as Sebastian | Mar 21 00:25 | |
ender2070 | Mincer - im not sure, Canada has very strong privacy laws | Mar 21 00:25 |
*Sebastian is now known as Sebastian_ | Mar 21 00:25 | |
____Tim | couldn't go with "Tim" its taken | Mar 21 00:25 |
schestowitz | Timbl | Mar 21 00:26 |
schestowitz | That'll be easier | Mar 21 00:26 |
*Sebastian_ is now known as SSebastian | Mar 21 00:26 | |
*____Tim is now known as Tim_ | Mar 21 00:26 | |
Tim_ | DaemonFC: How about you? | Mar 21 00:26 |
DaemonFC | My name is not Tim | Mar 21 00:26 |
SSebastian | schestowitz: come on Roy change yours to Roy | Mar 21 00:26 |
schestowitz | The Microsoftcarthyists now need to do UK DB search on Daniels with fathers called team | Mar 21 00:26 |
DaemonFC | :) | Mar 21 00:27 |
schestowitz | *tim | Mar 21 00:27 |
Tim_ | DaemonFC: Don't be shy..... | Mar 21 00:27 |
schestowitz | Then they get the commies | Mar 21 00:27 |
SSebastian | DaemonFC: change your name, to your real first name :) go on | Mar 21 00:27 |
Tim_ | Its easy to see the cowards here ;) | Mar 21 00:27 |
*ender2070 is now known as Brandon__ | Mar 21 00:27 | |
Tim_ | yeah. | Mar 21 00:27 |
Brandon__ | thats all your getting | Mar 21 00:27 |
SSebastian | Tim_: indeed, altough we knows schestowitz anyway, but even so he should do it | Mar 21 00:27 |
Tim_ | thats fine | Mar 21 00:27 |
Brandon__ | tho, the spelling is different :P | Mar 21 00:28 |
schestowitz | Ryan Farmer is a common name | Mar 21 00:28 |
schestowitz | No danger there | Mar 21 00:28 |
Tim_ | Yes, Roy should be included. | Mar 21 00:28 |
Tim_ | I would accept Dr Roy though. | Mar 21 00:28 |
schestowitz | Someone called "mark Fink" sent me mail some months ago | Mar 21 00:28 |
schestowitz | SOme creep with the same name made an employer/interviewer frown | Mar 21 00:28 |
schestowitz | There are many Finks and if one does bad things, others suffer | Mar 21 00:29 |
schestowitz | Google factor | Mar 21 00:29 |
schestowitz | With a name like Tim Smith you can say anuything | Mar 21 00:29 |
Tim_ | Howard Fink was a WWF ring announcer. | Mar 21 00:29 |
Tim_ | no hang on.... | Mar 21 00:29 |
Brandon__ | thats why you cant use your real info online | Mar 21 00:29 |
Tim_ | it was Howard Finkel | Mar 21 00:29 |
schestowitz | OK | Mar 21 00:29 |
schestowitz | Brandon__: not true | Mar 21 00:30 |
schestowitz | If someone else has the same name as you, there's nothing to lose | Mar 21 00:30 |
schestowitz | People can easily get real info | Mar 21 00:30 |
Brandon__ | you mean if its like John Smith? | Mar 21 00:30 |
schestowitz | They have leakers in ISPs | Mar 21 00:30 |
SSebastian | I seem to be a one of a kind, name wise :) first name and sur name | Mar 21 00:30 |
Brandon__ | if my ISP gave out my info, i could sue them under the privacy act | Mar 21 00:31 |
Brandon__ | wait, i wouldnt even have to | Mar 21 00:31 |
Brandon__ | the federal government will | Mar 21 00:31 |
schestowitz | You wish... | Mar 21 00:31 |
SSebastian | Tim_: and if your ISP gave out your info to people, what would you do? | Mar 21 00:31 |
schestowitz | Like AT&Tafter the Klein leak? | Mar 21 00:32 |
schestowitz | They killed even the 60 Minutes report | Mar 21 00:32 |
schestowitz | DMCA can be used to grab people's info | Mar 21 00:32 |
schestowitz | DMCA is a broken law | Mar 21 00:32 |
SSebastian | SSSebastian this name is remidning me of the SS Great Britain | Mar 21 00:32 |
schestowitz | Thunderf00t has many videos about the subject: http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t#p/u/60/agTHok-W_PI | Mar 21 00:32 |
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Tim_ | SSebastian, interesting question... | Mar 21 00:33 |
Tim_ | SSebastian, sorry I was having a smoke..... | Mar 21 00:33 |
Tim_ | SSebastian, I don't know, as I think you can appreciate from our chat the other day I wouldn't be happy.... | Mar 21 00:34 |
Tim_ | SSebastian, however if it was in the T&C theres little I could do since it would be a "Condition of entry" | Mar 21 00:35 |
SSebastian | Tim_: remember this channel gets publically logged :D | Mar 21 00:35 |
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Brandon__ | Canada isn't America | Mar 21 00:36 |
Tim_ | SSebastian, yeah, but this means only to people like yourself who I have spoken to directly. | Mar 21 00:36 |
Brandon__ | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/94239-Canadian-Government-Forces-Facebook-Changes | Mar 21 00:36 |
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Tim_ | *means something only.... | Mar 21 00:36 |
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Tim_ | SSebastian, theres a few people on Twitter I have spoken with who now know who I am. Sazzlerock is one, she lives just down the road from me! | Mar 21 00:37 |
Brandon__ | whats interesting is that facebook will be using Canada's changes worldwide | Mar 21 00:37 |
Sir_Konrad | hey if a website shows DNS Lookup Error, is it me or is it the website? | Mar 21 00:37 |
Brandon__ | so you can thank us for making your facebook experience more private :) | Mar 21 00:37 |
DaemonFC | Brandon__: You win one Windows Me | Mar 21 00:38 |
DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiNWw7h8cEU | Mar 21 00:38 |
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*MinceR has no facebook experience | Mar 21 00:38 | |
Brandon__ | tho the changes will be in this summer sometime | Mar 21 00:38 |
*SSebastian is now known as Seb-astian | Mar 21 00:38 | |
MinceR | 012612 < Brandon__> Canada isn't America | Mar 21 00:38 |
MinceR | it is _in_ america, though :> | Mar 21 00:38 |
Sir_Konrad | yo, guys! ^ | Mar 21 00:38 |
MinceR | j0 | Mar 21 00:39 |
Brandon__ | mincer - i was wondering how long that would take, lol | Mar 21 00:39 |
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Tim_AKA_Goblin | "Im not a handle Im a free man" | Mar 21 00:40 |
Seb-astian | Ender2070: Yeah like it or not, but your also American really | Mar 21 00:40 |
Seb-astian | Ender2070: Since North American | Mar 21 00:40 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191962/pitch_imperfect_10_lousy_celebrity_endorsements.html?tk=rss_news | Mar 21 00:40 |
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Seb-astian | Ender2070: your like the Mexicans, the type that hasn't been born in USA | Mar 21 00:41 |
schestowitz | Sir_Konrad: neither | Mar 21 00:41 |
Sir_Konrad | schestowitz: ok, so what's the problem? | Mar 21 00:41 |
schestowitz | Somewhere in between | Mar 21 00:42 |
schestowitz | Unless you mistyped it | Mar 21 00:42 |
Seb-astian | Ender2070: altough, if Canadian parants are on holiday in the USA, and the mother has the baby there, well some people would say that the baby is American not Canadian | Mar 21 00:42 |
schestowitz | American natives had good names | Mar 21 00:43 |
schestowitz | Alphabet is bad | Mar 21 00:43 |
schestowitz | Needs to associate | Mar 21 00:43 |
schestowitz | Numbers hard to remember | Mar 21 00:43 |
Ender2070 | Seb-astian - usa hijacked the term "americans" | Mar 21 00:43 |
schestowitz | "man eats eagle" is easy to remember | Mar 21 00:44 |
schestowitz | The brain can store it as an image" | Mar 21 00:44 |
schestowitz | Dances with wolves..... | Mar 21 00:44 |
MinceR | words work well for me :) | Mar 21 00:44 |
schestowitz | We should have names like this | Mar 21 00:44 |
schestowitz | Also makes more fun naming kids | Mar 21 00:44 |
MinceR | i prefer nicks anyway | Mar 21 00:44 |
Seb-astian | Ender2070: yes a guy from Costa Rica would agree with you 100% on that one | Mar 21 00:45 |
Ender2070 | schestowitz - nobody is stopping you | Mar 21 00:45 |
schestowitz | We could call Stephen Ballmer "dances with LSD" | Mar 21 00:45 |
Seb-astian | Ender2070: he calls them usanians | Mar 21 00:45 |
MinceR | rather "dances-and-sweats" | Mar 21 00:45 |
MinceR | or "dances-and-throws-chairs" | Mar 21 00:45 |
schestowitz | Maybe | Mar 21 00:45 |
schestowitz | But not when he's named | Mar 21 00:45 |
schestowitz | When he's born he's just covered in bodily dluids | Mar 21 00:46 |
Ender2070 | Seb-astian - i call them facists | Mar 21 00:46 |
schestowitz | Not his own | Mar 21 00:46 |
Tim_AKA_Goblin | "Shills with Microsoft" | Mar 21 00:46 |
schestowitz | *flui | Mar 21 00:46 |
schestowitz | timbl: yeah, Da Costa | Mar 21 00:46 |
Tim_AKA_Goblin | lol | Mar 21 00:46 |
MinceR | well, it was probably hard to tell when he was born what a criminal he'll become | Mar 21 00:46 |
Tim_AKA_Goblin | yep | Mar 21 00:46 |
schestowitz | But he might get a conract with Steve "Blowtard" Jobs | Mar 21 00:46 |
Ender2070 | Steve Jobs at least admits his LSD trips | Mar 21 00:47 |
schestowitz | Is he? | Mar 21 00:47 |
schestowitz | Was he that much of a genuine hippie? | Mar 21 00:47 |
Ender2070 | long time ago | Mar 21 00:47 |
Ender2070 | at least according to the movie pirates of silicon valley | Mar 21 00:47 |
schestowitz | Maybe that explains why he's busting his organs | Mar 21 00:47 |
schestowitz | Not really, but it doesn't help. | Mar 21 00:48 |
Ender2070 | lsd doesnt bust your organs | Mar 21 00:48 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] I watched @TheKevinButler ads on youtube and felt unnerved that it actually made me feel that I wanted a PS3! | Mar 21 00:48 | |
schestowitz | He's arrogant | Mar 21 00:48 |
schestowitz | In private | Mar 21 00:48 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Mar 21 00:48 |
schestowitz | Extremely unpleasant I hear | Mar 21 00:48 |
schestowitz | Impatient | Mar 21 00:48 |
Ender2070 | he hated IBM too | Mar 21 00:48 |
schestowitz | Glyn Moody would tell you | Mar 21 00:48 |
Ender2070 | he called them Big Brother | Mar 21 00:48 |
Ender2070 | even made a 1984 commercial making fun of them | Mar 21 00:48 |
schestowitz | He did a video | Mar 21 00:48 |
schestowitz | 1984 | Mar 21 00:48 |
Ender2070 | yet | Mar 21 00:49 |
schestowitz | Well, I call him Pig Brother :-D | Mar 21 00:49 |
Ender2070 | iTunes and iPad are big brothers dream | Mar 21 00:49 |
*schestowitz snorts | Mar 21 00:49 | |
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Ender2070 | yay drm books, down the memory hole you go! | Mar 21 00:49 |
schestowitz | Save the paperzzz! | Mar 21 00:49 |
Tim_AKA_Goblin | Ive always prefered a book. | Mar 21 00:49 |
Tim_AKA_Goblin | had a look at a Kindle... | Mar 21 00:49 |
Tim_AKA_Goblin | wasn't impressed. | Mar 21 00:50 |
schestowitz | Kinder? | Mar 21 00:50 |
Ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 00:50 |
Ender2070 | kindle was ironic | Mar 21 00:50 |
Tim_AKA_Goblin | schestowitz: chocolate is nice though.....toy is a bit naff. | Mar 21 00:50 |
schestowitz | Killdle | Mar 21 00:50 |
Ender2070 | when they deleted everyones 1984 | Mar 21 00:50 |
Ender2070 | or was it animal farm | Mar 21 00:50 |
schestowitz | KillDEL :-) | Mar 21 00:50 |
schestowitz | It killDELS your ebooks | Mar 21 00:50 |
schestowitz | Remotely | Mar 21 00:50 |
Ender2070 | KillDELL ? | Mar 21 00:50 |
schestowitz | I found a new name for it | Mar 21 00:50 |
schestowitz | Amazon KillDEL | Mar 21 00:50 |
schestowitz | It shreds books when you're done | Mar 21 00:51 |
Ender2070 | hey | Mar 21 00:51 |
schestowitz | And it pays MS | Mar 21 00:51 |
schestowitz | After the patent deal | Mar 21 00:51 |
Ender2070 | its green too! | Mar 21 00:51 |
Ender2070 | it shreds your books in an environmentally friendly way | Mar 21 00:51 |
schestowitz | No | Mar 21 00:51 |
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Ender2070 | no garbage paper left behind | Mar 21 00:51 |
schestowitz | Paper is easy to recycle | Mar 21 00:51 |
Ender2070 | perfect for a "green" label | Mar 21 00:51 |
schestowitz | You can do it in water | Mar 21 00:52 |
Ender2070 | lol like dlink | Mar 21 00:52 |
schestowitz | No heating like metals | Mar 21 00:52 |
Ender2070 | yeah paper is easy to recycle | Mar 21 00:52 |
schestowitz | BTW, do you recycle down south? | Mar 21 00:52 |
Ender2070 | you mean up north ? | Mar 21 00:52 |
schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/17/recycling-waste-landfill-ban-rubbish | Mar 21 00:52 |
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schestowitz | OOPS | Mar 21 00:52 |
schestowitz | I though I was talking to timbl | Mar 21 00:52 |
Ender2070 | we already have that shit here | Mar 21 00:52 |
schestowitz | *LOL* | Mar 21 00:52 |
Ender2070 | forced recycling of certain things | Mar 21 00:53 |
Ender2070 | they even pay kids to rat people out | Mar 21 00:53 |
schestowitz | Good | Mar 21 00:53 |
schestowitz | Banning of drugs - hard to justify | Mar 21 00:53 |
MinceR | "Pig Brother" :D | Mar 21 00:53 |
schestowitz | But we share the same cell | Mar 21 00:53 |
schestowitz | Earth | Mar 21 00:53 |
MinceR | and the Swindle | Mar 21 00:53 |
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schestowitz | Ham & cheese http://www.walyou.com/blog/2010/03/20/steve-jobs-cheese-head/ | Mar 21 00:54 |
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schestowitz | Pepperoni for stubble | Mar 21 00:54 |
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schestowitz | The head is filled with cabbage | Mar 21 00:55 |
schestowitz | But you can't see it from this photo | Mar 21 00:55 |
Balrog | hrmm | Mar 21 00:55 |
Balrog | apache accepts the Ms-PL | Mar 21 00:55 |
Balrog | http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html | Mar 21 00:55 |
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Tim_AKA_Goblin | Was reading today that a cloaking device has been created in a lab.... | Mar 21 00:55 |
schestowitz | Not surprising | Mar 21 00:55 |
schestowitz | They caved long ago | Mar 21 00:55 |
schestowitz | PJ complained about them | Mar 21 00:55 |
Balrog | but there's a copyleft in Ms-PL, isn't there? | Mar 21 00:56 |
schestowitz | Microsoft also bribed ASF | Mar 21 00:56 |
schestowitz | $100k per yar | Mar 21 00:56 |
schestowitz | *year] | Mar 21 00:56 |
schestowitz | Balrog: is it new? | Mar 21 00:56 |
schestowitz | Did they add it to the page? | Mar 21 00:56 |
Balrog | nah, same old | Mar 21 00:56 |
Diablo-D3 | I wish microsoft would bribe me $100k/yr | Mar 21 00:56 |
Balrog | ohh | Mar 21 00:56 |
Balrog | that I wouldn't know | Mar 21 00:56 |
Diablo-D3 | I need to start a software foundation | Mar 21 00:57 |
Diablo-D3 | that uses java heavily | Mar 21 00:57 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: http://chronicle.com/data/articles.dir/art-44.dir/issue-33.dir/33a03001.htm | Mar 21 00:57 |
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schestowitz | "If you’re a professor and you mention Microsoft programming tools in a scholarly presentation — in fact, even if you just use the tools — Microsoft will send you a check for $200. " | Mar 21 00:57 |
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Ender2070 | we'll see what web standards look like in a few years with the shell Jeff Jaffe, microsoft apologist on as leader | Mar 21 00:58 |
Ender2070 | shill* | Mar 21 00:58 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: you could start with writing a web server :> | Mar 21 00:58 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: $200 isnt enough | Mar 21 00:58 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: hmm, I could, couldn't I. | Mar 21 00:58 |
MinceR | ...and having it gain most of the market | Mar 21 00:58 |
schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://chronicle.com/data/articles.dir/art-44.dir/issue-33.dir/33a03001.htm | Mar 21 00:58 |
Diablo-D3 | I'll have to name it after a prominent native group too | Mar 21 00:58 |
schestowitz | http://web.archive.org/web/20080110224818/http://chronicle.com/data/articles.dir/art-44.dir/issue-33.dir/33a03001.htm | Mar 21 00:59 |
schestowitz | It vanished | Mar 21 00:59 |
Ender2070 | lol! | Mar 21 00:59 |
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Ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - inuit is taken | Mar 21 00:59 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: bonus challenge: don't write the web server in java. | Mar 21 00:59 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: but thats where all the performance comes from | Mar 21 01:00 |
Ender2070 | hahahahaha | Mar 21 01:00 |
MinceR | from not writing it in java? :> | Mar 21 01:00 |
Diablo-D3 | no, from writing it in java | Mar 21 01:00 |
Diablo-D3 | java is really fucking fast | Mar 21 01:00 |
Ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 01:00 |
Ender2070 | anyone running azureus will disagree | Mar 21 01:01 |
Sir_Konrad | such as me | Mar 21 01:02 |
*MinceR ran azureus once | Mar 21 01:02 | |
MinceR | then killed it. | Mar 21 01:02 |
MinceR | with fire. | Mar 21 01:02 |
Diablo-D3 | az is a pile of shit though | Mar 21 01:02 |
Diablo-D3 | dont blame java | Mar 21 01:02 |
MinceR | (before it could kill my RAM) | Mar 21 01:02 |
MinceR | unrelated >> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/3/19/ | Mar 21 01:03 |
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MinceR | SIGWITHFIRE | Mar 21 01:03 |
DaemonFC | http://www.kansascity.com/2010/03/20/1826369/tea-party-protesters-hurl-racial.html | Mar 21 01:05 |
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schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191991/sex_com_sale_halted_by_bankruptcy.html?tk=rss_news | Mar 21 01:06 |
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schestowitz | http://kasamaproject.org/2010/03/08/jed-brandt-letter-from-kathmandu/ | Mar 21 01:07 |
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Ender2070 | is it true that Canonical's music store sells mp3's? | Mar 21 01:07 |
schestowitz | YEs | Mar 21 01:07 |
schestowitz | WMA too!!!! | Mar 21 01:07 |
schestowitz | IIRC | Mar 21 01:07 |
Ender2070 | holy fuck | Mar 21 01:07 |
Ender2070 | canonical will jump into bed with anyone | Mar 21 01:08 |
schestowitz | MinceR: I see why it's funny | Mar 21 01:08 |
schestowitz | He's a theif | Mar 21 01:08 |
schestowitz | Yet he uses the money to get a lousy phone | Mar 21 01:09 |
schestowitz | app crapp | Mar 21 01:09 |
schestowitz | http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1003/S00159.htm | Mar 21 01:09 |
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MinceR | he also manages to endanger his own life by compromising his own privacy via social networking :> | Mar 21 01:09 |
Ender2070 | mincer - lol @ pennyarcade | Mar 21 01:10 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Zealand treats people like sheep now. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1003/S00159.htm Sad. | Mar 21 01:11 | |
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schestowitz | *LOL* Quit a headline http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/18/france-brothel-prostitution-female-mp | Mar 21 01:12 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bring back the brothel, says female French MP |World news |The Guardian .::. Size~: 187.69 KB | Mar 21 01:12 |
schestowitz | *Quite. | Mar 21 01:12 |
schestowitz | Notice how they say "*female* MP" | Mar 21 01:12 |
Ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 01:13 |
schestowitz | Like it's OK for women and a sun for men | Mar 21 01:13 |
Ender2070 | "licensed bordellos would protect women from violence" | Mar 21 01:13 |
schestowitz | Gigolo = good? | Mar 21 01:13 |
Ender2070 | sounds like Amsterdam | Mar 21 01:13 |
schestowitz | What do you call a female prostitute in English? | Mar 21 01:13 |
schestowitz | Tramp/whore is just slang | Mar 21 01:13 |
Diablo-D3 | a prostitute, schestowitz | Mar 21 01:14 |
Diablo-D3 | thats the actual word for it | Mar 21 01:14 |
schestowitz | "lady companion..." | Mar 21 01:14 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: is that just female? | Mar 21 01:14 |
MinceR | gn | Mar 21 01:14 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: technically, but only because men historically arent paid for it | Mar 21 01:14 |
Diablo-D3 | men are the ones who pay | Mar 21 01:14 |
schestowitz | http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prostitute | Mar 21 01:14 |
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Diablo-D3 | yeah, screw the dictionary | Mar 21 01:15 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: no | Mar 21 01:15 |
schestowitz | It's just any gender | Mar 21 01:15 |
Diablo-D3 | theres no real male equivilent | Mar 21 01:15 |
Diablo-D3 | women generally dont want sex for the fun of sex, and when they do, they go about it much differently | Mar 21 01:15 |
Diablo-D3 | they want mental stimulation | Mar 21 01:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/mar/18/bluefin-tuna-un-cites | Mar 21 01:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Bluefin tuna fails to make UN's list of protected fish |Environment |The Guardian .::. Size~: 188.79 KB | Mar 21 01:16 |
schestowitz | We'll live to see almost all fish becoming extinct | Mar 21 01:16 |
Diablo-D3 | but dont let logic get in your way | Mar 21 01:16 |
schestowitz | Unless something changes | Mar 21 01:16 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: well | Mar 21 01:16 |
Diablo-D3 | if people would stop eating fish | Mar 21 01:16 |
Diablo-D3 | this wouldnt be a problem | Mar 21 01:16 |
schestowitz | Fish is the nw dodo | Mar 21 01:16 |
Ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - you dont know enough whores | Mar 21 01:17 |
Diablo-D3 | fish are disgusting anyhow | Mar 21 01:17 |
*schestowitz eats fish very day | Mar 21 01:17 | |
schestowitz | [for now] | Mar 21 01:17 |
Diablo-D3 | I dont know how anyone could eat them | Mar 21 01:17 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: then stop. | Mar 21 01:17 |
Ender2070 | fish are delicious | Mar 21 01:17 |
schestowitz | I can't | Mar 21 01:17 |
Ender2070 | fuck the UN | Mar 21 01:17 |
Diablo-D3 | Want to destroy the fish industry? Stop eating fish. | Mar 21 01:17 |
Diablo-D3 | you cant stop? yes you can. | Mar 21 01:17 |
Ender2070 | im gonna eat more bluefin tuna | Mar 21 01:17 |
Diablo-D3 | no one can make you eat fish | Mar 21 01:17 |
schestowitz | What would I do for protein? | Mar 21 01:18 |
schestowitz | I ain't trying those horrid subs? | Mar 21 01:18 |
Ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - fish are brain food, they are best source of omega 3 fatty acids | Mar 21 01:18 |
Ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - obviously you arent eating enough | Mar 21 01:18 |
Diablo-D3 | ? | Mar 21 01:18 |
Diablo-D3 | dude, chicken, beef, LAND MAMMALS | Mar 21 01:18 |
schestowitz | Like vegan things with protein | Mar 21 01:18 |
MinceR | tuna is delicious. | Mar 21 01:18 |
Diablo-D3 | humans were not meant to be vegitarians | Mar 21 01:18 |
Diablo-D3 | anyone trying to have a vegitarian diet is mentally ill | Mar 21 01:19 |
schestowitz | Yes, fish can assist memory | Mar 21 01:19 |
Ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - cows and chicken dont have omega3 fatty acids unless you feed them flax seeds, which they dont | Mar 21 01:19 |
schestowitz | MinceR: it is | Mar 21 01:19 |
schestowitz | Becoming more scarce niw | Mar 21 01:19 |
schestowitz | Thus expensive | Mar 21 01:19 |
Ender2070 | Diablo-D3 - chickens and cows are fed food specially designed to make them grow bigger and faster | Mar 21 01:20 |
schestowitz | BGH | Mar 21 01:20 |
schestowitz | Gives you cancer | Mar 21 01:20 |
MinceR | we need sea farms | Mar 21 01:20 |
Ender2070 | yeah | Mar 21 01:20 |
schestowitz | In Florida they use that a lot | Mar 21 01:20 |
schestowitz | I wouldn't touch the milk | Mar 21 01:20 |
MinceR | balance consumption with reproduction | Mar 21 01:20 |
Ender2070 | schestowitz - seen Food Inc ? | Mar 21 01:20 |
Ender2070 | its much worse than you think | Mar 21 01:20 |
schestowitz | Just the trailer | Mar 21 01:20 |
MinceR | like we do with land mammals (as Diablo-D3 put it) | Mar 21 01:21 |
Ender2070 | theres only a handful of companies that control the meat | Mar 21 01:21 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: its difficult to farm fish | Mar 21 01:21 |
MinceR | it's probably doable though | Mar 21 01:21 |
Ender2070 | they ALL take orders from fast food companies for meat preperation too | Mar 21 01:21 |
Diablo-D3 | many fish species refuse to spawn in captivity | Mar 21 01:21 |
MinceR | another thing that has great perspective is vat grown meat | Mar 21 01:21 |
schestowitz | Electrecute the pong | Mar 21 01:21 |
schestowitz | Then sweep floor? | Mar 21 01:21 |
Ender2070 | mcdonalds tells the beef companies what to do, how to raise their cows | Mar 21 01:21 |
MinceR | which could work with fish meat as well as with mammal meat | Mar 21 01:21 |
DaemonFC | Ender2070: Fatter | Mar 21 01:21 |
DaemonFC | it makes them fatter | Mar 21 01:22 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: who, you? | Mar 21 01:22 |
Ender2070 | DaemonFC - bigger, fatter FASTER | Mar 21 01:22 |
Diablo-D3 | what we really should be doing is moving our population into space | Mar 21 01:22 |
Ender2070 | DaemonFC - so fast it is bad for their health | Mar 21 01:22 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: start from scratch | Mar 21 01:22 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: yeah, we should start with shooting ballmer, gates and jobs into the Sun | Mar 21 01:22 |
schestowitz | Seed some GE life in Mars | Mar 21 01:22 |
Ender2070 | they have chicken ready in weeks instead of months | Mar 21 01:22 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: actually, gates could easily be brought on board with this | Mar 21 01:22 |
Ender2070 | anyways i gtg | Mar 21 01:22 |
schestowitz | Leave some genome of humans around | Mar 21 01:23 |
MinceR | then terraform a few planets | Mar 21 01:23 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: We should feed Ballmer some of that stuff | Mar 21 01:23 |
Ender2070 | check out Food Inc everyone | Mar 21 01:23 |
schestowitz | 3. wait 1 billion years | Mar 21 01:23 |
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schestowitz | 4. Profit! (resurrection) | Mar 21 01:23 |
MinceR | Diablo-D3: gates shouldn't be brought on board, his ill-gotten riches should be confiscated and he should be punished. | Mar 21 01:23 |
Diablo-D3 | MinceR: "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" | Mar 21 01:23 |
schestowitz | FOSS community service? | Mar 21 01:24 |
schestowitz | MinceR: we don't need that | Mar 21 01:24 |
schestowitz | He's a bad coder | Mar 21 01:24 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: What was the movie where those aliens were going around seeding planets to grow humans then coming back to eat us later? | Mar 21 01:24 |
MinceR | i'd prefer to keep my enemies dead, but whatever. :> | Mar 21 01:24 |
Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: sounds like a scientology movie | Mar 21 01:24 |
schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/19/microsoft-incident-gates-code/ | Mar 21 01:24 |
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schestowitz | ' | Mar 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | After Gates left, Whitten walked into Eller’s office. He had heard the entire conversation. | Mar 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | “Do you know who wrote the original flood-fill algorithm?” he said, shaking his head. | Mar 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | “Ahhh, nope,” Eller replied. “I don’t believe I do.” Whitten paused, rubbed his finger on his left temple, and shook his head again. | Mar 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | “Bill wrote it,” he said. “Bill was the jerk who wrote this brain-dead piece of shit.” | Mar 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | ' | Mar 21 01:25 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: sounds like Intellectual Ventures rather | Mar 21 01:26 |
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schestowitz | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/google-free-on2-vp8-for-youtube/ | Mar 21 01:27 |
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schestowitz | Google is deaf | Mar 21 01:27 |
schestowitz | 0xDEAFBEEF | Mar 21 01:28 |
Diablo-D3 | google burgers | Mar 21 01:28 |
Diablo-D3 | om nom nom | Mar 21 01:28 |
schestowitz | Things crawl in them | Mar 21 01:28 |
MinceR | spiders | Mar 21 01:29 |
schestowitz | quick! rel=nofollow"| | Mar 21 01:29 |
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Tim_AKA_Goblin | Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast. | Mar 21 01:37 |
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schestowitz | Shots: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-10-04-LTS-Beta-1-Out-for-Testing-137807.shtml | Mar 21 01:47 |
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schestowitz | gn | Mar 21 01:47 |
schestowitz | http://isthemusicstorereadyyet.com/ | Mar 21 01:47 |
RobertParr | gas engines kill kittens. | Mar 21 02:09 |
RobertParr | but electric cars kill baby hamsters. | Mar 21 02:10 |
RobertParr | so anyway we lose. | Mar 21 02:10 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good to see more Python Snippets, but we need more - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PythonSnippets - it is a great contrib to help new coders! | Mar 21 02:12 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Alright Internet friends, I am done for the evening. Have a great weekend, see you later. :-) | Mar 21 02:16 | |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Another Android running iPad killer: the WePad 12" slate http://ur1.ca/qtah !linux | Mar 21 02:32 | |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Hey all, is Ender still up? | Mar 21 04:15 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Ender, you might like this one: http://www.japaninc.com/article.php?articleID=90 | Mar 21 04:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Toru Arakawa: Small-Time Visionary | Japan -- Business People Technology | www.japaninc.com .::. Size~: 59.08 KB | Mar 21 04:16 |
Chips_B_Malroy | its about Lumpys company that he works for | Mar 21 04:16 |
Chips_B_Malroy | just basic information is all | Mar 21 04:17 |
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ender2070 | did you guys know Eric Schmidt from Google used to be ceo of Novell? | Mar 21 04:35 |
ender2070 | i wonder if thats where they got the bad blood from | Mar 21 04:36 |
ender2070 | http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/040507-nine-things-about-novell.html?page=2 | Mar 21 04:36 |
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ender2070 | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7373201783240489827&ei=Etx3SeDAMIS4-QHTs-i2BQ&q=Reece+commission | Mar 21 04:52 |
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ender2070 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259030/Tony-Blairs-secret-dealings-South-Korean-oil-firm-UI-Energy-Corp.html | Mar 21 04:54 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Tony Blair's secret dealings with South Korean oil firm UI Energy Corp | Mail Online .::. Size~: 43.02 KB | Mar 21 04:54 |
ender2070 | http://www.cfr.org/about/corporate/corporate_benefits.html | Mar 21 04:56 |
ender2070 | $60,000 gets u dinner with world leaders | Mar 21 04:57 |
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ender2070 | "Invitations for senior executives to attend two to three small, private events with world leaders" | Mar 21 04:57 |
ender2070 | http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/To-save-itself-Detroit-plans-to-shrink/articleshow/5665326.cms | Mar 21 05:00 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: To save itself, Detroit plans to shrink - US - World - The Times of India .::. Size~: 51.99 KB | Mar 21 05:00 |
ender2070 | Part of UN Agenda 21 | Mar 21 05:00 |
ender2070 | lol. more dailyfail but this one is funny | Mar 21 05:02 |
ender2070 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1258905/Moscow-British-troops-march-Red-Square-Stalin-portrait.html | Mar 21 05:02 |
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ender2070 | http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1107696/david_rockefeller_speaks_about_population_control/ | Mar 21 05:03 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] MPs targeted in undercover sting over cash for influence | Politics | The Observer http://tinyurl.com/y92qz6d | Mar 21 05:04 | |
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ender2070 | http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-to-moscow/ | Mar 21 05:06 |
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ender2070 | http://www.rodale.com/phthalate-plasticizers?cm_mmc=DailyNewsNL-_-2010_03_16-_-Top5-_-NA | Mar 21 06:19 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: phthalate plasticizers | Chemicals in Plastic Linked to Low IQs in Kids | Rodale News .::. Size~: 33.38 KB | Mar 21 06:19 |
ender2070 | sterility and now stupidity | Mar 21 06:19 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] is attending a meeting in #fedora-india and discussing about "FUDCon in india" | Mar 21 06:22 | |
ender2070 | http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/Pubs/Display.Cfm?pubID=890 | Mar 21 06:30 |
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ender2070 | http://oldthinkernews.com/Articles/oldthinker%20news/New%20MoD%20Strategic%20Report%20Extends%20Vision%20to%202040.htm | Mar 21 06:30 |
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ender2070 | http://oldthinkernews.com/Articles/oldthinker%20news/New%20MoD%20Strategic%20Report%20Extends%20Vision%20to%202040.htm | Mar 21 06:31 |
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ender2070 | hmm | Mar 21 06:31 |
ender2070 | In an interview with the Seattle Times, UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon was asked, "Some say the emergence of super rich philanthropies like the Gates Foundation has undermined the effectiveness of the U.N. and its member organizations, like the WHO." Moon responded, | Mar 21 06:33 |
ender2070 | "On the contrary that is what we really want -- contributions from the business community as well as philanthropies. We need to have political support, but it doesn't give us all that we need. NGOs and philanthropies and many foundations such as Bill Gates Foundation -- they're taking a very important role..." | Mar 21 06:33 |
ender2070 | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thebusinessofgiving/2010141457_on_saturday_they_tried_somethi.html | Mar 21 06:33 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Business of Giving | A conversation with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 59.11 KB | Mar 21 06:33 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @h4ck3rm1k3: http://code.google.com/p/gisgraphy/ gisgraphy queries Geonames and OpenStreetMap | Mar 21 06:52 | |
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schestowitz | IIRC, Ban Ki-moon is the one who hans out in BillG's mansion | Mar 21 07:22 |
schestowitz | When he says "that is what we really want" I wonder what he means by "we" | Mar 21 07:23 |
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schestowitz | SJVN's article passed around too much without attrib. CrossOver Linux 9 review < http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?ReviewID=3217660 > | Mar 21 07:50 |
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schestowitz | http://thelinuxexperiment.com/guinea-pigs/jon-f/empathy-what-a-piece-of-garbage/ | Mar 21 07:52 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Empathy: What a Piece of Garbage | The Linux Experiment .::. Size~: 47.4 KB | Mar 21 07:52 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @saintpaul007 @BlackSunGazette Mother lost 3 children in #Detroit fire after utilities shut off, endured witch-hunt http://bit.ly/b3Q7Si | Mar 21 08:00 | |
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schestowitz | http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/20/firefox-windows-phone-7/ | Mar 21 08:01 |
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schestowitz | 'He then proceeds to make fun of Windows Phone 7 Series, the iPhone, Cocoa Touch, and Unix — all in three concise paragraphs. He notes that Windows Phone 7 Series has a “busted” UI, calls the iPhone’s UI “ugly jelly beans,” and mocks the “allegedly cool” Cocoa Touch “stuff.”' | Mar 21 08:01 |
schestowitz | Ewww... | Mar 21 08:01 |
schestowitz | WTF? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/43883#comment-13190 | Mar 21 08:20 |
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Diablo-D3 | man | Mar 21 08:23 |
Diablo-D3 | Im waiting for | Mar 21 08:23 |
Diablo-D3 | apple | Mar 21 08:23 |
Diablo-D3 | to sue | Mar 21 08:23 |
Diablo-D3 | general mills | Mar 21 08:24 |
Diablo-D3 | over | Mar 21 08:24 |
Diablo-D3 | cocoa puffs | Mar 21 08:24 |
cubezzz | bahahaha | Mar 21 08:24 |
cubezzz | that was funny | Mar 21 08:24 |
cubezzz | so they brain wash kids in University now? | Mar 21 08:24 |
cubezzz | the whole DRM thing is amusing | Mar 21 08:25 |
Diablo-D3 | brain wash kids | Mar 21 08:25 |
Diablo-D3 | dude | Mar 21 08:25 |
Diablo-D3 | that implies they HAVE brains to wash! | Mar 21 08:25 |
cubezzz | or just use them at all | Mar 21 08:26 |
cubezzz | rather than simply following instruction | Mar 21 08:26 |
cubezzz | the whole DRM/Lock-in thing is gross | Mar 21 08:28 |
cubezzz | to suggest one can't copy a codec, well.... | Mar 21 08:28 |
cubezzz | that's just wrong | Mar 21 08:28 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Right Click - "Add to Playlist in vlc" http://post.ly/UJZD | Mar 21 08:29 | |
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Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: well the problem is | Mar 21 08:29 |
Diablo-D3 | my generation is lazy | Mar 21 08:29 |
Diablo-D3 | so if pirating something is massively easier than owning it | Mar 21 08:29 |
Diablo-D3 | then they will pirate it | Mar 21 08:29 |
cubezzz | but that guy was suggesting that we can't run windows codecs under Linux | Mar 21 08:30 |
Diablo-D3 | I cant | Mar 21 08:30 |
Diablo-D3 | mplayer doesnt support 32bit codecs under 64bit yet | Mar 21 08:31 |
cubezzz | uh | Mar 21 08:31 |
cubezzz | ok | Mar 21 08:31 |
cubezzz | you don't have any 32 bit machines? | Mar 21 08:31 |
Diablo-D3 | why would I? | Mar 21 08:31 |
Diablo-D3 | thats old shit, dude | Mar 21 08:31 |
Diablo-D3 | thankfully, nothing uses codecs like that | Mar 21 08:32 |
Diablo-D3 | seriously, Ive never seen something encoded in a codec I cant play | Mar 21 08:32 |
Diablo-D3 | h264? mpeg4? mpeg2? wmv? ffmpeg does it all | Mar 21 08:32 |
cubezzz | Diablo-D3, so what motheboard/cpu are you using now? | Mar 21 08:40 |
cubezzz | I don't think there's 64 bit ARM cpus actually | Mar 21 08:41 |
Diablo-D3 | Im not on ARM | Mar 21 08:46 |
Diablo-D3 | also | Mar 21 08:46 |
Diablo-D3 | windows is not on ARM | Mar 21 08:46 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Working on Python Snippets docs. | Mar 21 09:11 | |
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oiaohm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture cubezzz read down to neon support. | Mar 21 09:13 |
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schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHCz71ci9Cc | Mar 21 09:15 |
cubezzz | the fact windows is not on ARM pleases me to no end | Mar 21 09:15 |
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Is someone stealing your ideas? Let them http://blogs.bnet.com/career-advice/?p=387&tag=nl.e713 #insightful /via @rsukumar | Mar 21 09:17 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Is Someone Stealing Your Ideas? Let Them | Personal Success | BNET .::. Size~: 202.16 KB | Mar 21 09:17 |
oiaohm | http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0WVI/is_2001_Feb_5/ai_70333884/ Neon is not exactly new. cubezzz | Mar 21 09:18 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: ARM puts density first for 64bit core | Electronics Times | Find Articles at BNET .::. Size~: 61.97 KB | Mar 21 09:18 |
cubezzz | hmmm | Mar 21 09:19 |
cubezzz | where can I buy it? | Mar 21 09:19 |
Diablo-D3 | neon isnt 64bit | Mar 21 09:20 |
Diablo-D3 | where can you buy what? | Mar 21 09:20 |
cubezzz | ARM Neon | Mar 21 09:20 |
Diablo-D3 | uh | Mar 21 09:20 |
Diablo-D3 | its not a processor dude | Mar 21 09:20 |
Diablo-D3 | neon is a simd language | Mar 21 09:20 |
cubezzz | I see | Mar 21 09:21 |
Diablo-D3 | its on any ARM cpu that advertises it has it | Mar 21 09:21 |
oiaohm | Neon extention allows arm to do most of the 64 bit you need for most things. There is not really a big need for more than 4 gb of directly allocatable memory or 32 gb doing by PAE. | Mar 21 09:24 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] FDCServers is the worst DC ever, don't do business with them http://ub3r.net/fdc/ #douchebags | Mar 21 09:27 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Index of /fdc/ .::. Size~: 5.7 KB | Mar 21 09:27 |
cubezzz | well at least they got a fan blowing in there :) | Mar 21 09:31 |
cubezzz | that should keep those hundreds of computers nice and cool | Mar 21 09:31 |
cubezzz | a cardboard box instead of a case? :) | Mar 21 09:34 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Reasons mythtv annoys me: I wake up to find all my recorded programs gone. Lovely, thanks MythTV. | Mar 21 09:41 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Updated the Python Snippets HOWTO at http://is.gd/aRlwU - go and contribute snippets, folks! #python | Mar 21 09:45 | |
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schestowitz | This is good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg | Mar 21 09:56 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- 6. Climate Change -- Those hacked e-mails .::. Size~: 112.49 KB | Mar 21 09:56 |
schestowitz | This is a good channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54 | Mar 21 09:59 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- potholer54's Channel .::. Size~: 96.61 KB | Mar 21 09:59 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Going through all the python-snippets PyGTK snippets and adding docs links to use the new feature in Acire #python | Mar 21 10:06 | |
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schestowitz | Very professional channel... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMQk6MveZOE | Mar 21 10:30 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] OK, headed to bed, will finishing updating the PyGTK snippets tomorrow. Night, all! | Mar 21 10:31 | |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Mum just phoned me to say she's playing solitaire and is very happy. :D | Mar 21 10:36 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Resurrection of a dead article about #Microsoft corrupting academia http://ur1.ca/qv6p #bribe #history | Mar 21 10:55 | |
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MinceR | j0 | Mar 21 10:59 |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/25535665#notice-25522419 | Mar 21 11:22 |
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schestowitz | "they start much younger than professors now http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/30/microsoft-tortures-littles-kids-with-bing-jingle/" | Mar 21 11:23 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Customers who buy new PCs choose Web browsers other than Internet Explorer http://ur1.ca/qvaz #gnu #linux | Mar 21 11:24 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Are Proprietary Software Users Too Dangerous for Copying and Pasting? http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/21/dumbed-down-tablets-or-phones/ | Mar 21 12:35 | |
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schestowitz | bbl | Mar 21 12:35 |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] An excellent, balanced report ¨Linux on the Desktop, Lessons from mainstream business adoption": http://tinyurl.com/qrscgb | Mar 21 14:42 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Volgens de Gaykrant is een paars kabinet, met GroenLinks er in een reële mogelijkheid. http://tinyurl.com/y8lbymb | Mar 21 14:49 | |
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] Ik moet even wennen aan het idee, dat "mijn" partij, niet meer in de oppositie zit, maar ik krijg nu wel hele positieve gedachten... | Mar 21 14:51 | |
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Omar87 | Hi all. | Mar 21 15:47 |
schestowitz | Hmmmmm... so Phipps was fired. http://www.twit.tv/floss113 | Mar 21 15:48 |
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schestowitz | Made redundant | Mar 21 15:48 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, who's Phipps? | Mar 21 15:54 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] 5 stages of programmer incompetence: http://coderoom.wordpress.com/2010/03/19/5-stages-of-programmer-incompetence/ /via @omniprasan | Mar 21 16:27 | |
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DaemonFC | Does anyone know of a site I can order some Amoxicillin from without a prescription? | Mar 21 16:32 |
DaemonFC | I'm dying here | Mar 21 16:33 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: ask your mom to take you to the doctor | Mar 21 16:33 |
DaemonFC | wtf? | Mar 21 16:34 |
DaemonFC | It's not that I'm NOT going to the doctor, it's that he won't see me until Tuesday | Mar 21 16:34 |
neighborlee | goto the ER then | Mar 21 16:34 |
neighborlee | if you have insurance its no biggie..if you dont they can't refuse you | Mar 21 16:35 |
DaemonFC | heh, there we go, $2,000 Amoxicillin prescription | Mar 21 16:35 |
neighborlee | ok then suffer | Mar 21 16:35 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: or what about those quick clinic things...those are very cheap,,you could call ahead to verify they can help you,,if they can't well if you want out of pain before tuesday, ER might be the only option..are you in enough pain to warrant a $2000 prescription ? :) | Mar 21 16:37 |
neighborlee | latre | Mar 21 16:38 |
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_goblin | Good afternoon all. | Mar 21 16:45 |
_goblin | Good grief, SkyHD is good. | Mar 21 16:46 |
_goblin | a frightfully charming episode of Smackdown in glorious HD.....jolly good show. | Mar 21 16:46 |
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schestowitz | Omar87: click on the link and learn | Mar 21 16:49 |
_goblin | ? | Mar 21 16:49 |
_goblin | learn what? | Mar 21 16:49 |
schestowitz | About Phipps | Mar 21 16:51 |
schestowitz | Omar87 is not familiar w/ hjim | Mar 21 16:51 |
schestowitz | He could also look it up, e.g. Wikipedia | Mar 21 16:52 |
schestowitz | There's no short answer to his question | Mar 21 16:52 |
schestowitz | And I can't give a very accurate answer, either | Mar 21 16:52 |
_goblin | ah | Mar 21 16:56 |
_goblin | Samsung Galaxy arrives tomorrow...allegedly. | Mar 21 16:56 |
DaemonFC | I don't think I've drank this much hot tea in years | Mar 21 16:58 |
DaemonFC | heh, Verizon is bragging about their "family locater" spyware running almost anywhere | Mar 21 17:00 |
DaemonFC | I don't agree with most of this health care bill, but of all the thing to get hung up on they choose abortion? | Mar 21 17:02 |
DaemonFC | The Senate bill already requires the insured to pay for it with their own money | Mar 21 17:03 |
DaemonFC | where is the abortion at taxpayer expense problem? | Mar 21 17:03 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Indiana-Ku-Klux-Klan-leader-gets-out-of-jury-duty-412902.php | Mar 21 17:09 |
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*DaemonFC facepalms | Mar 21 17:09 | |
DaemonFC | http://www.hotindienews.com/2010/03/09/1020264 | Mar 21 17:14 |
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neighborlee | DaemonFC: don't agree with 'most' of health care bill, is like saying you hope people get sick and die, because that is the net effect of your statement | Mar 21 17:16 |
DaemonFC | not really | Mar 21 17:17 |
neighborlee | well then specify what your in disagreement with | Mar 21 17:18 |
DaemonFC | I don't agree with throwing money at private insurers who shower themselves with billions in bonus money | Mar 21 17:18 |
DaemonFC | or forcing people to buy into it | Mar 21 17:18 |
DaemonFC | I think that at least that much could be struck down on Constitutional basis | Mar 21 17:18 |
DaemonFC | freedom of association mostly | Mar 21 17:19 |
neighborlee | then figure out how to insure everyone without a pool of money... | Mar 21 17:19 |
DaemonFC | put the money into Medicare | Mar 21 17:19 |
neighborlee | LOL | Mar 21 17:19 |
DaemonFC | expand Medicare to cover everyone | Mar 21 17:19 |
neighborlee | shot down early on | Mar 21 17:19 |
neighborlee | LOL | Mar 21 17:19 |
neighborlee | single payer lost out very early in this whole debate | Mar 21 17:19 |
DaemonFC | just because the good plan was shot down doesn't mean we should go with the Public Looting one | Mar 21 17:19 |
DaemonFC | private insurance always takes in much more than it pays out | Mar 21 17:20 |
neighborlee | car insurance is mandated isn't it ? ;) | Mar 21 17:20 |
DaemonFC | no | Mar 21 17:20 |
neighborlee | dont see you screaming abou that atm | Mar 21 17:20 |
neighborlee | yes, it is | Mar 21 17:20 |
DaemonFC | no it's not | Mar 21 17:20 |
neighborlee | try going without it, and getting into a car accident. | Mar 21 17:20 |
DaemonFC | 1. You don't have to own a car, in which case you don't have to buy it. | Mar 21 17:21 |
DaemonFC | 2. It's not a federal law that you have to buy it | Mar 21 17:21 |
neighborlee | 1 is sillly..2 is only a per state issue | Mar 21 17:21 |
DaemonFC | car insurance is not the same thing because you don't have to buy it and the state telling car owners to buy it is not unconstitutional | Mar 21 17:21 |
DaemonFC | that is a power reserved to the states | Mar 21 17:22 |
DaemonFC | the Constitution does not give that power to the federal government | Mar 21 17:22 |
neighborlee | it doesn't change the fact, that in most states you have to carry it ;) | Mar 21 17:22 |
neighborlee | so my point stands | Mar 21 17:22 |
DaemonFC | no it doesn't | Mar 21 17:22 |
DaemonFC | The federal government's health insurance mandate is unconstitutional | Mar 21 17:22 |
DaemonFC | and should be struck down | Mar 21 17:22 |
neighborlee | having a car and no insurance, is a license to killl with impunity | Mar 21 17:24 |
DaemonFC | yeah, but there's no federal law that mandates car insurance | Mar 21 17:24 |
DaemonFC | because that would be unconstitutional | Mar 21 17:24 |
DaemonFC | you don't understand "Separation of Powers" or the Tenth Amendment? | Mar 21 17:24 |
neighborlee | your missing the point,but thats ok ;) | Mar 21 17:25 |
neighborlee | point is more in a pool, brings cost down for everyone | Mar 21 17:25 |
DaemonFC | "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." | Mar 21 17:25 |
neighborlee | at least in a capitalistic society ;) | Mar 21 17:25 |
DaemonFC | the First Amendment also gives you the freedom of association | Mar 21 17:26 |
DaemonFC | and forbids the federal government from interfering with it | Mar 21 17:26 |
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @abbe: #fortune: a man's first step in the world of recursion starts from the barber's shop... | Mar 21 17:27 | |
neighborlee | I suppose you think its ok for insurance companies to run amok and try to swindle people out of covering pre-existing conditions ? | Mar 21 17:27 |
neighborlee | or c-section delivery ? | Mar 21 17:28 |
DaemonFC | "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." | Mar 21 17:28 |
neighborlee | et cetera ? | Mar 21 17:28 |
DaemonFC | in the Ninth Amendment | Mar 21 17:28 |
neighborlee | I am not in love with everything that has gone on in this health care debate..but its obvious we need a massive overhaul of this mess | Mar 21 17:29 |
neighborlee | we are the oNLY industrialized nation , without it you know. | Mar 21 17:29 |
neighborlee | how embarrasing is that ? | Mar 21 17:29 |
DaemonFC | I don't have to buy health insurance from a private company | Mar 21 17:29 |
DaemonFC | I won't be doing so either | Mar 21 17:29 |
DaemonFC | and I will not pay penalties | Mar 21 17:29 |
DaemonFC | this will end up in the Supreme Court when they try to dick everyone around | Mar 21 17:30 |
neighborlee | hell , even japan as bette care than we do, and we 've been a 'nation' just as long as they have..whats our excuse ?? | Mar 21 17:30 |
neighborlee | ......................has better | Mar 21 17:30 |
DaemonFC | doesn't matter | Mar 21 17:30 |
neighborlee | of course not ;) | Mar 21 17:30 |
neighborlee | let people get sick and DIE right ;) | Mar 21 17:30 |
DaemonFC | the Federal government has no legal grounds to make me buy anything from a private company | Mar 21 17:30 |
neighborlee | less over population :) | Mar 21 17:31 |
DaemonFC | I have the right to refuse | Mar 21 17:31 |
DaemonFC | This isn't about universal coverage | Mar 21 17:31 |
neighborlee | there are alot of problems in this billl, but we definitely need something, and fast | Mar 21 17:31 |
DaemonFC | it's about a smash and grab | Mar 21 17:31 |
DaemonFC | for the insurance cartel | Mar 21 17:31 |
neighborlee | yes I know about that | Mar 21 17:32 |
DaemonFC | the Feds are seizing the peoples money and giving it to private corporations, by force | Mar 21 17:32 |
DaemonFC | and it can't be allowed | Mar 21 17:32 |
neighborlee | well good luck stopping it | Mar 21 17:32 |
DaemonFC | It'll be stopped | Mar 21 17:32 |
neighborlee | by whyo | Mar 21 17:32 |
neighborlee | by who | Mar 21 17:32 |
DaemonFC | even if the Democrats ram it through Congress, the Supreme Court still has the right to declare the act unconstitutional | Mar 21 17:33 |
DaemonFC | in part or in full | Mar 21 17:33 |
neighborlee | LOL | Mar 21 17:33 |
DaemonFC | There's not enough Democrat lapdogs on the court to uphold this | Mar 21 17:33 |
neighborlee | you mean the court that is going to allow corporations and foreign entities to have large stakes in our election process ? | Mar 21 17:33 |
neighborlee | BE careful what you WISH for ;)))) | Mar 21 17:34 |
DaemonFC | This is like a train robbery | Mar 21 17:34 |
DaemonFC | and you'd rooting for the guys with the masks and guns | Mar 21 17:34 |
DaemonFC | *you're | Mar 21 17:34 |
neighborlee | yeah, the same ones that feined outrage when obama called them out for their shoddy attempt at supreme court governance ;) | Mar 21 17:34 |
DaemonFC | even while they're telling you to throw your wallet and watch in the bag | Mar 21 17:35 |
neighborlee | not so much | Mar 21 17:35 |
neighborlee | im seeing that this might be a arguement that the perfect is the enemy of the good | Mar 21 17:35 |
DaemonFC | no | Mar 21 17:35 |
neighborlee | yes | Mar 21 17:35 |
DaemonFC | The good is the enemy of the toxic waste | Mar 21 17:35 |
DaemonFC | even the the bad we have now is preferable to the toxic waste bill | Mar 21 17:36 |
neighborlee | the trouble is | Mar 21 17:36 |
neighborlee | if we dont pass something... | Mar 21 17:36 |
neighborlee | you know that if republicans get in power again..its all over | Mar 21 17:36 |
neighborlee | they had several decades to do SOMEthing, and we got squat baby | Mar 21 17:37 |
DaemonFC | I'd rather it be all over than it pass as-is | Mar 21 17:37 |
DaemonFC | this is not going to make things more affordable for anyone | Mar 21 17:37 |
neighborlee | show me the numbers | Mar 21 17:37 |
DaemonFC | Those federal subsidies for people come right out of your income taxes | Mar 21 17:37 |
DaemonFC | then you have to pay premiums too | Mar 21 17:37 |
DaemonFC | and co-pays | Mar 21 17:37 |
neighborlee | its not free yet..so yeah so what tell me more ;) | Mar 21 17:37 |
DaemonFC | and then a full 20% of that money goes to waste, fraud, and abuse | Mar 21 17:38 |
neighborlee | we aren't in a utopian society,,so yeah we all pay,, no doubt ;) | Mar 21 17:38 |
neighborlee | shock ;) | Mar 21 17:38 |
DaemonFC | Medicare only really has a 1% overhead in itself | Mar 21 17:38 |
DaemonFC | it doesn't fight the patient over needed care | Mar 21 17:38 |
DaemonFC | Obamacare companies will keep doing that | Mar 21 17:38 |
DaemonFC | they'll argue anything that costs them money isn't reasonable or appropriate | Mar 21 17:39 |
DaemonFC | or they'll just seize the extra money from the tax payers | Mar 21 17:39 |
neighborlee | well we shall see what happens in the vote coming up | Mar 21 17:39 |
DaemonFC | neighborlee: Have you even studied Medicare "Advantage" and what a disaster it is? | Mar 21 17:40 |
neighborlee | it still has to go to senate.and then back to house depending on what senate does | Mar 21 17:40 |
DaemonFC | same thing Obama is trying to get done in this bill | Mar 21 17:40 |
DaemonFC | orgy of wasteful spending | Mar 21 17:40 |
neighborlee | I know of advantage yes | Mar 21 17:40 |
DaemonFC | so you know that it's basically privatized Medicare that costs the government more, establishes doctors and hospitals you can't go to, and fights the patient over claims | Mar 21 17:41 |
DaemonFC | right? | Mar 21 17:41 |
neighborlee | of course there are things im not happy about in this legislation...but if it passes at least some people will have coverage, than up until now insurance companies have been able to exclude from deserving patients | Mar 21 17:41 |
neighborlee | so its a choice of two evils possibly....imagine that | Mar 21 17:42 |
DaemonFC | Original Medicare costs less, doesn't fight the patient, and doesn't establish "networks" | Mar 21 17:42 |
DaemonFC | My grandmother dropped out of "advantage" because of being dicked around | Mar 21 17:42 |
neighborlee | or we go with this..and work to ,make it better over time,,with ammendments etc. | Mar 21 17:42 |
neighborlee | or so the story goes ;) | Mar 21 17:42 |
DaemonFC | by that Humana company' | Mar 21 17:42 |
neighborlee | what kind of dicked around do you mean | Mar 21 17:42 |
neighborlee | yes but it doesn't cover everything..thats where advantage comes into play or so I'm told by news coverage..ive not looked into it DEEPly though | Mar 21 17:43 |
DaemonFC | fighting her claims, fucking up her prescription refills (late deliveries, forgetting to send them, etc.), networks of doctors and hospitals they'd pay, lots of out of network ones she couldn't go to | Mar 21 17:43 |
DaemonFC | and they cost more | Mar 21 17:43 |
DaemonFC | wrong, see that's the thing | Mar 21 17:44 |
neighborlee | so your saying | Mar 21 17:44 |
neighborlee | that our health care is in need of fixing ? ;)( | Mar 21 17:44 |
neighborlee | shock | Mar 21 17:44 |
DaemonFC | Original Medicare + Part D has the same things as an Advantage plan without the hair pulling | Mar 21 17:44 |
neighborlee | what should we do about it ? | Mar 21 17:44 |
Omar87 | Guys.. just a couple days ago, I found the ultimate proof that OpenOffice.Org is much much much more better than Microsoft Office. | Mar 21 17:44 |
neighborlee | wait for the party of NO to get in power and never talk about it again ?? | Mar 21 17:44 |
neighborlee | thats head in sand arguement | Mar 21 17:45 |
DaemonFC | in fact, your hostpial stays could cost more if you get Advantage, because they may charge an arbitrary rate per day you're in there | Mar 21 17:45 |
neighborlee | Omar87: besides being free,,what else ;)) | Mar 21 17:45 |
DaemonFC | Medicare pays 87% of the bill | Mar 21 17:45 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, lol! You won't believe it. :) | Mar 21 17:45 |
neighborlee | ok ;) | Mar 21 17:45 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, OpenOffice supports, .doc files, MS Office 2007 doesn't. :P | Mar 21 17:46 |
neighborlee | DaemonFC: point is republicans have had AGES to fix this nonsense..and they did not...how much more time shall we give beffore another 30,000 people die needlessly | Mar 21 17:46 |
DaemonFC | neighborlee: Quick question. You're in the hospital for 10 days, we'll say each day was about $4,000, ok? Would you rather pay $500 a day or 13% of the bill? | Mar 21 17:46 |
neighborlee | a goverment take over of health care..like johnson pass of medicare...yeah ..horrrrrrrrible | Mar 21 17:47 |
neighborlee | silly talking points | Mar 21 17:47 |
neighborlee | when lives are at stake. | Mar 21 17:47 |
neighborlee | real moral | Mar 21 17:47 |
neighborlee | obama isnt without sin though | Mar 21 17:47 |
neighborlee | and I did vote for him..but he's turned into a bit of a liar | Mar 21 17:48 |
neighborlee | yeah, a liar | Mar 21 17:48 |
DaemonFC | $5,000 with the Advantage plan, or $5,200 with Medicare. But, you also get to pay another $40 a month to be in Advantage and get to argue with the insurance company. | Mar 21 17:48 |
DaemonFC | I'd rather just be responsible for the $5,200 | Mar 21 17:48 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, Obama is a walking lump of sins, what are you talking about? | Mar 21 17:48 |
neighborlee | he did campaign on public option.then lied about it later | Mar 21 17:48 |
neighborlee | its on record, you can google it | Mar 21 17:48 |
DaemonFC | yeah, see, now there's nothing, at all, to keep the private insurers honest | Mar 21 17:48 |
neighborlee | sad,oh so sad, but quite true. | Mar 21 17:48 |
DaemonFC | they crippled the bill to squeeze more money from me and thee | Mar 21 17:49 |
neighborlee | so while I think we need health care to pass..I dont LIKE all the business as usual that has gone on | Mar 21 17:49 |
neighborlee | we desperately need public option/single payer system..but we wont get it | Mar 21 17:50 |
DaemonFC | neighborlee: And what about the sweetheart deals to fully fund Louisiana and Nebraska's Medicaid obligations at our expense? | Mar 21 17:50 |
neighborlee | why..because of special interests etc. | Mar 21 17:50 |
DaemonFC | Do you really thing those are going away? | Mar 21 17:50 |
Omar87 | Hey guys! Is Jack Wallen drunk or what? http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=1412 | Mar 21 17:50 |
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neighborlee | DaemonFC: yes some of them already have gone | Mar 21 17:50 |
neighborlee | faik, they wont all go | Mar 21 17:50 |
Omar87 | Hi wants Outlook to get ported to Linux!! :D | Mar 21 17:50 |
neighborlee | ewwwww | Mar 21 17:50 |
DaemonFC | Omar87: Evolution | Mar 21 17:50 |
Omar87 | What a four-eyed idiot. :P | Mar 21 17:51 |
DaemonFC | Omar87: Outlook Express already was ported to UNIX | Mar 21 17:51 |
DaemonFC | discontinued | Mar 21 17:51 |
DaemonFC | it'll still run on OpenSolaris | Mar 21 17:51 |
neighborlee | Omar87: lol about doc files.. | Mar 21 17:51 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC, but do we even really need it?? | Mar 21 17:51 |
Omar87 | Thunderbird has outperformed Outlook a loooooong time ago, imho. -_- | Mar 21 17:52 |
neighborlee | yeah i'd never use anything M$ puts out if I can find alternatives... | Mar 21 17:53 |
Omar87 | DaemonFC: Dude, Jack Wallen is really running out of mental processing capabilities. | Mar 21 17:53 |
neighborlee | we should all just let this dain thing pass..and concentrate on saving dolphins in japan ,,I was SICKENED seeing 'the cove' | Mar 21 17:54 |
Omar87 | He's been yapping nothing but horse shit for the past few months. | Mar 21 17:54 |
neighborlee | jack wallen ? | Mar 21 17:55 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, yes. | Mar 21 17:55 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, he wants to see OutLook ported to Linux. :P | Mar 21 17:55 |
neighborlee | o_0 | Mar 21 17:55 |
neighborlee | I see nothing special about outlook, that we dont already have | Mar 21 17:56 |
neighborlee | and that which is crossplatform :) | Mar 21 17:56 |
neighborlee | next ;) | Mar 21 17:56 |
neighborlee | I know windows friends that wont go anywhere near it | Mar 21 17:56 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, Jack Wallen is that moron at Techrepublic who's supposed to be an "Open Source expert". | Mar 21 17:56 |
neighborlee | ah | Mar 21 17:57 |
Omar87 | kkkkkk | Mar 21 17:57 |
Omar87 | ah, that was a mistake. | Mar 21 17:57 |
neighborlee | k :) | Mar 21 17:57 |
neighborlee | lol | Mar 21 17:57 |
Omar87 | lol | Mar 21 17:57 |
neighborlee | feels good to laugh at times like this ;) | Mar 21 17:58 |
neighborlee | thanks!! ;) | Mar 21 17:58 |
neighborlee | hey..10 minutes to go for the VOTE :)) | Mar 21 17:58 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, anytime. ;) | Mar 21 17:58 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, what vote? | Mar 21 17:58 |
neighborlee | honestly..im NOT happy about current bill not having public option..but I do worry if we dont pass something..how long is it going to take before we start over to get something else going ? | Mar 21 17:58 |
neighborlee | and who is going to die along the way as a result ? | Mar 21 17:59 |
neighborlee | Omar87:health care up or down vote in the house | Mar 21 17:59 |
neighborlee | like I said earlier | Mar 21 18:00 |
neighborlee | we are the oNLY industrialzied nation left withOUt health care for all | Mar 21 18:00 |
neighborlee | go us!! | Mar 21 18:00 |
neighborlee | <not> | Mar 21 18:00 |
neighborlee | aren't we amazing, that we care so little for our citizens | Mar 21 18:00 |
neighborlee | yay | Mar 21 18:00 |
neighborlee | o_0 | Mar 21 18:00 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, I see. Health care is problematic here as well. | Mar 21 18:01 |
neighborlee | going to check on pulse of that vote...I really do have mixed emotions on this, but if we wait, I dont know if its going to get through before republicans get control, and then forget it | Mar 21 18:02 |
neighborlee | Omar87: yeah,,everyone is suffering with costs... | Mar 21 18:02 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, true. | Mar 21 18:02 |
neighborlee | Omar87: so much for the effectiveness and morally of a capitalistic planet ;) | Mar 21 18:02 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, I totally agree. | Mar 21 18:02 |
neighborlee | err: morally/morality | Mar 21 18:02 |
neighborlee | brb | Mar 21 18:02 |
Omar87 | neighborlee, tyt | Mar 21 18:02 |
schestowitz | MinceR: Jack Wallen is "pragmatist" | Mar 21 18:07 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, you meant that to me? | Mar 21 18:07 |
schestowitz | Yes, I did | Mar 21 18:07 |
schestowitz | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Search-Engines/Facebook-Soaring-in-Search-Popularity-Researchers-Say-295314/ Good news for the spies among us | Mar 21 18:07 |
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schestowitz | :-( | Mar 21 18:08 |
schestowitz | How fast it grew | Mar 21 18:08 |
schestowitz | http://msdynamicsworld.com/story/dynamics-ax/underlying-strategy-guiding-integration-cloud-services-microsoft-dynamics-erp 'He further characterizes Microsoft's bet on the cloud as "all in."' | Mar 21 18:09 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Underlying Strategy Guiding Integration of Cloud Services with Microsoft Dynamics ERP | MSDynamicsWorld.com .::. Size~: 24.99 KB | Mar 21 18:09 |
schestowitz | "Give us all yo' data!" | Mar 21 18:09 |
schestowitz | Hardware/software/cloud lockin are dangerous | Mar 21 18:09 |
schestowitz | Google has cloud lockin | Mar 21 18:10 |
schestowitz | Microsoft software | Mar 21 18:10 |
schestowitz | IBM hardware (like mainframes) | Mar 21 18:10 |
schestowitz | People don't understand why they must stick with FOSS | Mar 21 18:10 |
schestowitz | The message isn't amplified by PR people pretending to be "journalists" | Mar 21 18:10 |
schestowitz | 60% of news is said to be PR, some source said | Mar 21 18:10 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Actually, talking about porting Outlook to Linux proves that Jack Wallen's awareness of what is at stake is just like my mother's awareness of who's the current WWE heavyweight champion, imho. -_- | Mar 21 18:10 |
schestowitz | Those numbers mean nothing by their own right, but they represent a trend | Mar 21 18:10 |
schestowitz | Omar87: don't attack Wallen | Mar 21 18:11 |
schestowitz | Please | Mar 21 18:11 |
schestowitz | I got some mails about him too | Mar 21 18:11 |
schestowitz | Overall, he's beneficial to FOSS | Mar 21 18:11 |
schestowitz | Some people slam him based on one article, like this one where he defends blobs | Mar 21 18:11 |
schestowitz | Cause he wants Linux to spread | Mar 21 18:11 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, I'm not attacking him. I just think he's kinda naive. | Mar 21 18:11 |
schestowitz | It's not about Linux, IMHO | Mar 21 18:11 |
schestowitz | I used to think it was | Mar 21 18:11 |
schestowitz | But that would be like promoting Apple | Mar 21 18:12 |
schestowitz | Or "Mac" | Mar 21 18:12 |
schestowitz | Shilling for Jobs to get richer and more powerful | Mar 21 18:12 |
schestowitz | We need to reform by idealogy | Mar 21 18:12 |
schestowitz | Not brands | Mar 21 18:12 |
schestowitz | We don't need another Microsoft | Mar 21 18:12 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, that's correct. | Mar 21 18:12 |
schestowitz | We would have that currently, based on where people want to go | Mar 21 18:12 |
schestowitz | They look up to Apple and Google for savours | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | Some in Linux world look up to IBM | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | IBM used to be the Big Brother Cricodile | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | They still have strong grip in some areas | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | And they support swpats | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | We need to abolish those | Mar 21 18:13 |
Omar87 | schestowitz, I also believe that Linux is merely a tool, just like Windows. But what is really significant is the ideological factor behind the Linux kernel. | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | Then, the bad culture will go away | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | But we have no political/legal clout | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | They run the system | Mar 21 18:13 |
schestowitz | It's like the ACT cabal | Mar 21 18:14 |
schestowitz | Showing its face in 3-strike, DEB, etc. | Mar 21 18:14 |
schestowitz | *ACTA | Mar 21 18:14 |
schestowitz | Omar87: Linux is good for developers | Mar 21 18:14 |
schestowitz | Or FOSS | Mar 21 18:14 |
schestowitz | It's for them to work with | Mar 21 18:14 |
schestowitz | Not to be a GUEST | Mar 21 18:14 |
schestowitz | My brother dual-boots | Mar 21 18:15 |
schestowitz | He knows that programming can only happen on Linux | Mar 21 18:15 |
schestowitz | Facebook, Google, Yahoo (BSD), Intel... | Mar 21 18:15 |
schestowitz | They don't use Windows | Mar 21 18:15 |
schestowitz | Even GE's engineers use Linux now (SUSE) | Mar 21 18:15 |
DaemonFC | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PlJTNgrwPpY/S6ZJnuJTHfI/AAAAAAAAD14/OZtXSKi40ls/s320/teapartypic.jpg | Mar 21 18:15 |
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Omar87 | schestowitz, True. | Mar 21 18:15 |
DaemonFC | They spelled "Nigger" wrong | Mar 21 18:15 |
DaemonFC | :) | Mar 21 18:15 |
schestowitz | Windows is good when you want a 33% of being a zombie PC | Mar 21 18:15 |
schestowitz | *33% chance | Mar 21 18:16 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: beggar | Mar 21 18:16 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Gas station attendant | Mar 21 18:16 |
DaemonFC | :) | Mar 21 18:16 |
schestowitz | MS won't survive this transition: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9170818/Inside_MS_Cloud_Model_for_Productivity_Apps | Mar 21 18:17 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Inside MS Cloud Model for Productivity Apps .::. Size~: 124.94 KB | Mar 21 18:17 |
Omar87 | It's just that Facebook prefers to bring in the venom of Werrenger Edstrom | Mar 21 18:17 |
schestowitz | Expect trouble ahead for them | Mar 21 18:17 |
schestowitz | But for FOSS too | Mar 21 18:17 |
Omar87 | Waggener | Mar 21 18:17 |
schestowitz | FOSS becomes devoured in 'clouds' | Mar 21 18:17 |
schestowitz | Not too useful | Mar 21 18:17 |
schestowitz | VMware bought Zimbta and SpringSource | Mar 21 18:17 |
Omar87 | That is, Bong. | Mar 21 18:17 |
schestowitz | They just embed the FOSS | Mar 21 18:17 |
schestowitz | No real access or use inside/in private use | Mar 21 18:18 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: maybe he wants to make BAMA his gardener | Mar 21 18:18 |
schestowitz | I bet you his pastor is some racist bugger | Mar 21 18:18 |
schestowitz | Justifying things along with liars like Beck | Mar 21 18:18 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: This is good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nnVQ2fROOg | Mar 21 18:18 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- 6. Climate Change -- Those hacked e-mails .::. Size~: 112.49 KB | Mar 21 18:18 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: His jacket is the Texas flag | Mar 21 18:18 |
schestowitz | Watch the Rush Beck Fox spewing drek | Mar 21 18:19 |
DaemonFC | You never see anyone else from any other state wearing their state flag | Mar 21 18:19 |
schestowitz | Texas scares some USians | Mar 21 18:19 |
schestowitz | What they do to education now | Mar 21 18:19 |
schestowitz | I posted an article here yesterday, DaemonFC | Mar 21 18:20 |
schestowitz | And TJ did a rude video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gknGpafFsjk | Mar 21 18:21 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- TEXAS BLOWS .::. Size~: 173.08 KB | Mar 21 18:21 |
schestowitz | I have a friend here who lived in Texas | Mar 21 18:21 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: They're the only ones that take their state that seriously | Mar 21 18:21 |
schestowitz | He says it was racist, not he lives in Manc (he's Asian) | Mar 21 18:21 |
DaemonFC | everyone else just lives somewhere | Mar 21 18:21 |
schestowitz | Hmmm.... this is brand new: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V12rYRB9sw | Mar 21 18:22 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- The Devil Made Me Do It .::. Size~: 151.58 KB | Mar 21 18:22 |
schestowitz | About child molestation in churches | Mar 21 18:22 |
schestowitz | "I'm sorry, forgive me father for I have been _Caught_" | Mar 21 18:23 |
DaemonFC | I think I said that yesterday | Mar 21 18:28 |
DaemonFC | corrupt organizations | Mar 21 18:28 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 21 18:28 |
DaemonFC | You never see crooked priests hanging themselves | Mar 21 18:29 |
DaemonFC | that shows you about how sorry they are | Mar 21 18:29 |
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schestowitz | Europe sees them weakening | Mar 21 18:31 |
schestowitz | The universe is a beautiful place | Mar 21 18:32 |
schestowitz | Lots to be learned and be inspired by | Mar 21 18:32 |
schestowitz | We don't need ancient texts that scare and inciate us | Mar 21 18:32 |
schestowitz | *incite | Mar 21 18:32 |
schestowitz | IMHO. | Mar 21 18:32 |
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schestowitz | http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Facebook-to-set-up-centre-in-Hyderabad/articleshow/5687846.cms | Mar 21 18:36 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Facebook to set up centre in Hyderabad - India Business - Biz - The Times of India .::. Size~: 50.27 KB | Mar 21 18:36 |
schestowitz | Hasn't India suffered /enough/ already? | Mar 21 18:37 |
schestowitz | Facebook is actively used for control of mind/rel? | Mar 21 18:37 |
schestowitz | I remember when people smeared RMS for warning about it | Mar 21 18:37 |
schestowitz | And now we see it confirmed by the press | Mar 21 18:37 |
schestowitz | RMS has the last laugh | Mar 21 18:37 |
schestowitz | But he's too concerned for laughter | Mar 21 18:37 |
DaemonFC | neighborlee: One interesting thing is that 67% of respondents to the Indiana state assembly survey said they would favor Indiana passing a bill refusing to implement the federal health care law. | Mar 21 18:38 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 21 18:38 |
DaemonFC | technically, no that can't happen, really though it can and has | Mar 21 18:39 |
DaemonFC | and the feds have backed off | Mar 21 18:39 |
DaemonFC | it will be interesting to see how many state "nullification acts" the health bill provokes | Mar 21 18:43 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Windows the trojan – Bitdefender is spot on? http://tinyurl.com/yjbkwdb #trojan #windows #microsoft #bitdefender | Mar 21 18:44 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Windows the trojan Bitdefender is spot on? « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 28.52 KB | Mar 21 18:44 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/article/191971/jerry_seinfeld_and_microsoft.html | Mar 21 18:45 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Jerry Seinfeld and Microsoft - PCWorld .::. Size~: 45.9 KB | Mar 21 18:45 |
DaemonFC | those Seinfeld commercials are the dumbest things ever | Mar 21 18:46 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: people vote against their own interests if brainwashed by Fox et al | Mar 21 18:46 |
DaemonFC | not memorable, don't connect with people, don't ever get to the point | Mar 21 18:46 |
schestowitz | Funded by the 'health' (insurance) cartel | Mar 21 18:46 |
DaemonFC | they probably have enough votes to get the nullification written into the state constitution here | Mar 21 18:47 |
DaemonFC | I mean voted within the general population | Mar 21 18:47 |
DaemonFC | *votes | Mar 21 18:47 |
DaemonFC | Will they try? Who knows? Will it stick? Who knows? | Mar 21 18:48 |
DaemonFC | older people tend not to want any kind of reform because they already have their universal coverage system | Mar 21 18:48 |
DaemonFC | Medicare is corporate welfare for many reasons | Mar 21 18:49 |
DaemonFC | it takes on all the least healthy people in the country for starters | Mar 21 18:49 |
DaemonFC | then there's a privatized version that's impossible for an insurance company to lose money on | Mar 21 18:50 |
DaemonFC | http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/CelebrityCafe/lindsay-lohan-ban-india/story?id=10148651 | Mar 21 18:53 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Lindsay Lohan Ban in India? - ABC News .::. Size~: 64.31 KB | Mar 21 18:53 |
DaemonFC | lol | Mar 21 18:53 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/Google/?p=1837 "If you ask me, GPU rendering simply doesn’t seem like anything that will change the game — sites that require GPU acceleration should just be redesigned." | Mar 21 18:54 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft says IE9 faster than Chrome, but is it? | Googling Google | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 97.91 KB | Mar 21 18:54 |
schestowitz | Do me a favour, will you :-) Check if it's true | Mar 21 18:54 |
schestowitz | IIRC you have both | Mar 21 18:54 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: it turns like into a product | Mar 21 18:55 |
schestowitz | Hostage situation | Mar 21 18:55 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: IE 9 failed to run the Peacekeeper test | Mar 21 18:55 |
schestowitz | It's an area where there is social resposibility, not competitive market for incentives to innva~1 | Mar 21 18:55 |
schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/03/video_standards_in_ie9.html | Mar 21 18:56 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Video: Standards support in IE9, and yes, you read that correctly .::. Size~: 51.18 KB | Mar 21 18:56 |
schestowitz | [MSFT booster warning] | Mar 21 18:56 |
schestowitz | Too much MS PR shown as "news" | Mar 21 18:56 |
schestowitz | Seattle 'press' | Mar 21 18:56 |
DaemonFC | IE 9 only runs the tests Microsoft wants it to run | Mar 21 18:56 |
schestowitz | I know | Mar 21 18:56 |
DaemonFC | It does well on Sunspider | Mar 21 18:56 |
schestowitz | As usual | Mar 21 18:56 |
schestowitz | Same with tests vs Linux | Mar 21 18:57 |
schestowitz | Microsoft lies with sincerity | Mar 21 18:57 |
DaemonFC | Peacekeeper is a much wider test spectrum | Mar 21 18:57 |
DaemonFC | it would show IE 9's weaknesses if IE 9 would even let it run | Mar 21 18:57 |
DaemonFC | Opera 10.5 rips through the <canvas> test, blazing fast | Mar 21 18:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-loses-a-top-china-executive-2010-3 | Mar 21 18:59 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Loses A Top China Executive .::. Size~: 89.03 KB | Mar 21 18:59 |
DaemonFC | Opera 10.5 is an even match for the latest Chrome 5 builds | Mar 21 18:59 |
DaemonFC | beats it in many places | Mar 21 18:59 |
DaemonFC | Firefox is dog slow but makes it through the test | Mar 21 18:59 |
DaemonFC | IE 8 can't run all the tests and is REAL slow | Mar 21 19:00 |
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ender2070 | opera doesnt beat anything | Mar 21 19:01 |
ender2070 | proprietary is the devil | Mar 21 19:01 |
ender2070 | oh, it beats IE | Mar 21 19:01 |
ender2070 | thats it | Mar 21 19:01 |
DaemonFC | Opera has the fastest and most complete rendering engine out there | Mar 21 19:01 |
ender2070 | when they release the code ill give a shit | Mar 21 19:01 |
ender2070 | and stop complaining | Mar 21 19:01 |
DaemonFC | I'll give a shit when Firefox's can play video without stuttering and freezing up | Mar 21 19:02 |
ender2070 | konquerer and chrome run fine for me | Mar 21 19:02 |
ender2070 | get a better computer | Mar 21 19:02 |
ender2070 | opera is designed to run on shit | Mar 21 19:03 |
DaemonFC | I have a fast computer | Mar 21 19:03 |
DaemonFC | Firefox is just unreasonably choppy | Mar 21 19:03 |
DaemonFC | the Linux version is worse | Mar 21 19:03 |
schestowitz | ender2070: opera is good | Mar 21 19:04 |
ender2070 | if its choppy you dont have a fast computer | Mar 21 19:04 |
schestowitz | Technically | Mar 21 19:04 |
DaemonFC | I have a 3 Ghz quad core | Mar 21 19:04 |
ender2070 | same | Mar 21 19:04 |
DaemonFC | wtf do you mean not fast? | Mar 21 19:04 |
ender2070 | its not choppy | Mar 21 19:04 |
schestowitz | Their Linux build is said to be neglected these days | Mar 21 19:04 |
schestowitz | They just compile it | Mar 21 19:04 |
ender2070 | maybe firefox is keeping up with your brain | Mar 21 19:04 |
schestowitz | Their staff uses Linux in places | Mar 21 19:04 |
schestowitz | Also, in Norway Linux counts | Mar 21 19:04 |
ender2070 | too bad opera isn't free software | Mar 21 19:04 |
schestowitz | Yeah | Mar 21 19:05 |
ender2070 | otherwise i might suggest it | Mar 21 19:05 |
schestowitz | Asa would cry | Mar 21 19:05 |
schestowitz | And run to Ballmer for help | Mar 21 19:05 |
DaemonFC | Asa is a Microsoft shill anyway | Mar 21 19:05 |
ender2070 | if opera was free software people might actually use it | Mar 21 19:05 |
DaemonFC | damn | Mar 21 19:05 |
ender2070 | it could be bundled with distros | Mar 21 19:05 |
DaemonFC | he's like the Matt Asay of Mozilla | Mar 21 19:05 |
schestowitz | Hehe | Mar 21 19:05 |
schestowitz | MAc Asay | Mar 21 19:05 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 19:05 |
schestowitz | But Asa uses a Mac | Mar 21 19:05 |
schestowitz | Mac Asa | Mar 21 19:05 |
ender2070 | Asa recommends bing | Mar 21 19:05 |
DaemonFC | "IE 9 rocks, lulz!" | Mar 21 19:05 |
ender2070 | :( | Mar 21 19:06 |
DaemonFC | "Use Bing, lulz!" | Mar 21 19:06 |
schestowitz | Ass | Mar 21 19:06 |
DaemonFC | "I suck Ballmer's pecker, lulz!!!" | Mar 21 19:06 |
ender2070 | LOL | Mar 21 19:06 |
schestowitz | OK, too far... | Mar 21 19:06 |
schestowitz | But... | Mar 21 19:06 |
schestowitz | Did you see the article I posted here yesterday? | Mar 21 19:06 |
schestowitz | Mozilla and Ballmer.... | Mar 21 19:06 |
ender2070 | hey schestowitz - you're racist! | Mar 21 19:06 |
DaemonFC | nope | Mar 21 19:06 |
schestowitz | Mozilla and Ballmer.... | Mar 21 19:07 |
schestowitz | http://techcrunch.com/2010/03/20/firefox-windows-phone-7/ | Mar 21 19:07 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Mozilla Engineer Writes Steve Ballmer; Promptly Takes Foot Out Of Mouth .::. Size~: 75.49 KB | Mar 21 19:07 |
ender2070 | i dont have any evidence, verfako is god and is always right | Mar 21 19:07 |
DaemonFC | "?Win phone 7 marketplace can automatically revoke apps ? delete them from your device!" | Mar 21 19:07 |
DaemonFC | hooray!!! | Mar 21 19:07 |
DaemonFC | Down the memory hole! | Mar 21 19:07 |
schestowitz | ender2070: it means they can't argue back | Mar 21 19:07 |
DaemonFC | Doubleplusgood! | Mar 21 19:07 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - ;) | Mar 21 19:07 |
schestowitz | We've not been trolled much recently | Mar 21 19:07 |
schestowitz | I felt left out :-( | Mar 21 19:07 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - im surprised to see lefty pull that nym out of the closet long enough to write all that | Mar 21 19:07 |
schestowitz | No trolls in IRC so far in 2010 | Mar 21 19:08 |
schestowitz | No bans | Mar 21 19:08 |
schestowitz | :-) | Mar 21 19:08 |
schestowitz | ender2070: I guess... | Mar 21 19:08 |
ender2070 | now that you say that | Mar 21 19:08 |
ender2070 | they'll arrive | Mar 21 19:08 |
schestowitz | Well, that name ain't associated with ACCESS | Mar 21 19:08 |
schestowitz | So it carries less liability for the trollfesr | Mar 21 19:08 |
ender2070 | yes | Mar 21 19:08 |
ender2070 | access is a joke anyways | Mar 21 19:09 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 19:09 |
schestowitz | If they arrive, we'll rub their tummy... with a pole | Mar 21 19:09 |
ender2070 | did u see my article? | Mar 21 19:09 |
schestowitz | :-) | Mar 21 19:09 |
schestowitz | ACCESS is Asses | Mar 21 19:09 |
schestowitz | Hmmm... Google doesn't put me near page 1 for "roy" now... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&imgtbs=s&ndsp=21&q=roy&start=10&sa=N | Mar 21 19:10 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: roy - Google Search .::. Size~: 31.19 KB | Mar 21 19:10 |
schestowitz | Been around 12th since 2004/5 | Mar 21 19:11 |
schestowitz | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-s-Ballot-Screen-Becomes-Opera-s-Delight-137982.shtml | Mar 21 19:11 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft’s Ballot Screen Becomes Opera’s Delight - Opera downloads almost doubled on average - Softpedia .::. Size~: 47.89 KB | Mar 21 19:11 |
ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/28 | Mar 21 19:12 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Android vs ACCESS Linux Platform/LiMo | www.pwnage.ca .::. Size~: 13.05 KB | Mar 21 19:12 |
DaemonFC | Firefox is basically a Windows program that also happens to have Linux builds | Mar 21 19:13 |
ender2070 | access is funny because their spokesperson called rms a rapist and they don't give a shit | Mar 21 19:13 |
DaemonFC | the extent to which Linux distros have to patch it up to make it work right is unreasonable | Mar 21 19:13 |
ender2070 | DaemonFC - its worse than that, mozilla uses their trademark to block patches | Mar 21 19:13 |
DaemonFC | yup | Mar 21 19:14 |
DaemonFC | That's why Webkit is probably the future on Linux | Mar 21 19:14 |
ender2070 | fedora complains all the time | Mar 21 19:14 |
ender2070 | they still have 3.5.8 | Mar 21 19:14 |
ender2070 | probably cause 3.6 won't compile without hacks yet | Mar 21 19:14 |
ender2070 | i know theres unofficial rpms for it though | Mar 21 19:14 |
DaemonFC | Fedora should quit fucking around with Firefox and just extend epiphany to be useful | Mar 21 19:15 |
DaemonFC | it's not that far off | Mar 21 19:15 |
ender2070 | fedora/kde recommends konquerer | Mar 21 19:15 |
ender2070 | or rekonq for webkit | Mar 21 19:15 |
DaemonFC | yeah, but Fedora is realyl GNOME oriented | Mar 21 19:15 |
ender2070 | i like arora better | Mar 21 19:15 |
ender2070 | stop saying that | Mar 21 19:15 |
DaemonFC | they should make Epiphany more usable | Mar 21 19:15 |
ender2070 | they have teams that work on individual parts | Mar 21 19:15 |
DaemonFC | well, they kind of hide KDE behind a curtain | Mar 21 19:15 |
ender2070 | the KDE team in fedora does more packaging than the gnome guys there | Mar 21 19:16 |
DaemonFC | it's there and it runs fine, if you notice it | Mar 21 19:16 |
ender2070 | its one of the best kde distros | Mar 21 19:16 |
DaemonFC | most new Fedora users will see GNOME, download GNOME, and use GNOME | Mar 21 19:16 |
ender2070 | in my opinion it is the best kde distro | Mar 21 19:16 |
DaemonFC | and the DVD defaults to GNOME | Mar 21 19:16 |
ender2070 | the DVD, if u pick kde doesnt install mono | Mar 21 19:16 |
DaemonFC | yeah, but you have to check "Custom Package Selection", hit next, and uncheck "GNOME Desktop" and check "KDE Desktop" | Mar 21 19:17 |
DaemonFC | if you just hit next, you get GNOME | Mar 21 19:17 |
ender2070 | thats fine | Mar 21 19:17 |
ender2070 | not everyone uses gnome | Mar 21 19:17 |
ender2070 | they have a lot of kde users | Mar 21 19:17 |
DaemonFC | so the installer doesn't offer you KDE by default | Mar 21 19:17 |
DaemonFC | you have to know you want KDE, and unhide it | Mar 21 19:18 |
ender2070 | kubuntu fucks up a lot, and people are drawn to fedora vs opensuse more often than not | Mar 21 19:18 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Sorry folks, how rude of me, good morning...well afternoon now. :-) | Mar 21 19:18 | |
ender2070 | most people don't use the dvd | Mar 21 19:18 |
ender2070 | its the least used | Mar 21 19:18 |
DaemonFC | OpenSuse gives you a better choice screen | Mar 21 19:18 |
ender2070 | they use the livecd's | Mar 21 19:18 |
ender2070 | opensuse also gives you mono | Mar 21 19:18 |
ender2070 | and yast | Mar 21 19:18 |
DaemonFC | it displays the GNOME or KDE screen prominently | Mar 21 19:18 |
DaemonFC | OpenSuse KDE does not have Mono, KDE is selected by default | Mar 21 19:19 |
DaemonFC | I don't think that a lot of their "community" sees Mono as a feature | Mar 21 19:19 |
ender2070 | not to mention yast | Mar 21 19:19 |
DaemonFC | or else they would have voted to make GNOME default | Mar 21 19:19 |
ender2070 | yast is the worst piece of shit ever | Mar 21 19:19 |
ender2070 | its a relic from days when you needed that shit | Mar 21 19:20 |
DaemonFC | no, it's not | Mar 21 19:20 |
ender2070 | its a gigantic shit pile | Mar 21 19:20 |
DaemonFC | portage or pacman or conary | Mar 21 19:20 |
DaemonFC | try using them | Mar 21 19:20 |
ender2070 | much easier | Mar 21 19:20 |
ender2070 | im a CLI guy | Mar 21 19:21 |
ender2070 | emerge firefox is much easier than opening yast, waiting, digging through all the fucking menus, then searching their database and hitting ok | Mar 21 19:21 |
DaemonFC | Yast is easy enough to use with the exception that they need to make add-on repositories more compatible with the OpenSuse ones | Mar 21 19:21 |
ender2070 | zypper > yast | Mar 21 19:22 |
ender2070 | fuck yast | Mar 21 19:22 |
DaemonFC | for example, if you enable VideoLAN and PackMan, you'll have conflicts | Mar 21 19:22 |
ender2070 | yeah thats dumb | Mar 21 19:22 |
*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulf | Mar 21 19:22 | |
ender2070 | i just install two rpms and get all that shit in fedora without conflicts | Mar 21 19:22 |
ender2070 | rpmfusion | Mar 21 19:23 |
DaemonFC | so there's certain combinations of repositories that you can't open up together or it might vaporize your system | Mar 21 19:23 |
ender2070 | rpm -i rpmfusion*rpm | Mar 21 19:23 |
DaemonFC | I know that, you know that | Mar 21 19:23 |
DaemonFC | a new user? | Mar 21 19:23 |
ender2070 | double click | Mar 21 19:23 |
DaemonFC | Already too late once it's done | Mar 21 19:23 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 19:23 |
ender2070 | kpackagekit can turn them on and off too | Mar 21 19:24 |
ender2070 | its so easy | Mar 21 19:24 |
ender2070 | anyone who cant figure it out is a moron | Mar 21 19:24 |
ender2070 | and i have no pity for htem | Mar 21 19:24 |
ender2070 | them | Mar 21 19:24 |
DaemonFC | well, OpenSuse GNOME is the worst GNOME distro out there | Mar 21 19:24 |
DaemonFC | Choose Your Own Adventure menu | Mar 21 19:24 |
ender2070 | i dont like anything about opensuse | Mar 21 19:24 |
ender2070 | its a relic to me | Mar 21 19:24 |
DaemonFC | But Ubuntu is getting close, jono | Mar 21 19:24 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 21 19:24 |
ender2070 | they should call it NUUBuntu | Mar 21 19:25 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=5620 | Mar 21 19:25 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Midori team member Jonathan Shapiro leaving Microsoft | All about Microsoft | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 99.69 KB | Mar 21 19:25 |
schestowitz | Exodus | Mar 21 19:25 |
DaemonFC | yes, Fedora's GNOME distro is the cleanest and with the least chance to blow up your system | Mar 21 19:25 |
ender2070 | fedora agrees with the fsf on most things too | Mar 21 19:25 |
DaemonFC | Ubuntu's metapackage system just defies logic | Mar 21 19:26 |
ender2070 | except they consider firmware "content" | Mar 21 19:26 |
DaemonFC | it's an ugly hacked together system of foistware | Mar 21 19:26 |
ender2070 | if it werent for the firmware, fedora would be on the fsf list | Mar 21 19:26 |
schestowitz | Linux used to mean profit to Mozilla | Mar 21 19:26 |
schestowitz | Ubuntu changes this | Mar 21 19:26 |
schestowitz | Changes the relationship somewhat | Mar 21 19:26 |
ender2070 | how? | Mar 21 19:26 |
schestowitz | Bong | Mar 21 19:26 |
DaemonFC | Ubuntu metapackages are just the fucking stupidest thing I've ever seen | Mar 21 19:27 |
DaemonFC | I mean that | Mar 21 19:27 |
ender2070 | oh lol | Mar 21 19:27 |
schestowitz | Mozils is paid for Google in the search bar | Mar 21 19:27 |
DaemonFC | it enforces a non-customizable system of shit you can't get rid of | Mar 21 19:27 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - they should make ubuntu change the name ;) | Mar 21 19:27 |
schestowitz | abrowser? | Mar 21 19:27 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - ubuntu can call it cashfox | Mar 21 19:27 |
ender2070 | or something | Mar 21 19:27 |
DaemonFC | Their Ching partnership | Mar 21 19:27 |
schestowitz | Firebong | Mar 21 19:28 |
DaemonFC | as in ching ching | Mar 21 19:28 |
ender2070 | lol firebong | Mar 21 19:28 |
schestowitz | Smoking machine | Mar 21 19:28 |
ender2070 | shillfox | Mar 21 19:28 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Opera 10.5 is by far the best Windows browser out there | Mar 21 19:28 |
ender2070 | firesale | Mar 21 19:28 |
schestowitz | Marksix | Mar 21 19:28 |
schestowitz | MarkSix | Mar 21 19:28 |
DaemonFC | the Linux version is not close enough to call yet | Mar 21 19:28 |
schestowitz | MarXix? | Mar 21 19:28 |
DaemonFC | still major problems | Mar 21 19:28 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I think Opera will skip 10.5 on Linux, maybe release 10.52 or something next to the Windows release | Mar 21 19:29 |
schestowitz | "Community for human beings" | Mar 21 19:29 |
schestowitz | Subtle refs to communism | Mar 21 19:29 |
schestowitz | Anyway, I kid....... | Mar 21 19:29 |
ender2070 | i like how they do things best for the user, but dont listen to the user | Mar 21 19:29 |
*jono sighs | Mar 21 19:29 | |
schestowitz | I use Kubuntu now | Mar 21 19:30 |
jono | :) | Mar 21 19:30 |
ender2070 | "we think microsoft is best for the user" | Mar 21 19:30 |
schestowitz | It is | Mar 21 19:30 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is a user | Mar 21 19:30 |
schestowitz | It uses people | Mar 21 19:30 |
DaemonFC | jono!!! Bacon!!! Bacon!!! Bacon!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CErapf79rqM | Mar 21 19:30 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: YouTube- Beggin' Strips Commercial ITS BACON! .::. Size~: 112.99 KB | Mar 21 19:30 |
schestowitz | Like Icahn | Mar 21 19:30 |
schestowitz | The Bacon number | Mar 21 19:30 |
schestowitz | I have a Bacon number of one | Mar 21 19:31 |
jono | lol | Mar 21 19:31 |
schestowitz | But I never met Kevin Bacon | Mar 21 19:31 |
schestowitz | Most Powerful voice in Open Source | Mar 21 19:31 |
ender2070 | lol who? | Mar 21 19:31 |
schestowitz | jono: you still tell colleagues, "I'm a most powerful voice?" | Mar 21 19:31 |
schestowitz | Or has that expired now? :-) | Mar 21 19:32 |
schestowitz | ender2070: some MSFTers did some 'stats' | Mar 21 19:32 |
jono | schestowitz lol, that wore off :) | Mar 21 19:32 |
schestowitz | The ones that take TWITTER into account | Mar 21 19:32 |
ender2070 | schestowitz - oh yeah? | Mar 21 19:32 |
schestowitz | Which already rules out part of the sample populaiton | Mar 21 19:32 |
schestowitz | ender2070: I wrote about it in BN | Mar 21 19:32 |
jono | schestowitz MS didnt drive the powerful voices thing, that was Mindtouch - why do you think it is MS? | Mar 21 19:32 |
schestowitz | Last year they made funny choices | Mar 21 19:33 |
schestowitz | And developers don't count | Mar 21 19:33 |
schestowitz | jono: Look who runs Mindtouch | Mar 21 19:33 |
schestowitz | They are also major boosters of .NET | Mar 21 19:33 |
jono | schestowitz Aaron Fulkerson | Mar 21 19:33 |
schestowitz | Ys | Mar 21 19:33 |
schestowitz | I heard your show with him | Mar 21 19:33 |
ender2070 | some people accuse us of not contributing | Mar 21 19:33 |
jono | Aaron is a good guy - he lives and breathes OSS | Mar 21 19:33 |
schestowitz | I don't have a problem w/ him as a person | Mar 21 19:33 |
schestowitz | But he's biased | Mar 21 19:33 |
jono | how is he biased? | Mar 21 19:33 |
ender2070 | when theres no way they can possibly know that, its ad hominem | Mar 21 19:33 |
schestowitz | And not in a way that's good for leaving behind corrupt companies and their non-Free s/w | Mar 21 19:34 |
schestowitz | jono: his mates are from Microsoft | Mar 21 19:34 |
schestowitz | And MVPs like Miguel. | Mar 21 19:34 |
jono | schestowitz I have mates at MS, does that make me biased? | Mar 21 19:34 |
schestowitz | And Collier | Mar 21 19:34 |
jono | Miguel is a friend of mine | Mar 21 19:34 |
schestowitz | That makes you at risk of Microsoft bias | Mar 21 19:34 |
schestowitz | But people don't admit their biases | Mar 21 19:34 |
jono | lol | Mar 21 19:34 |
schestowitz | Like...: | Mar 21 19:34 |
schestowitz | "I swear I wrote this article cause I wanted to" | Mar 21 19:35 |
jono | so if someone knows someone at MS that are at risk of bias? | Mar 21 19:35 |
ender2070 | Q: Some say the emergence of super rich philanthropies like the Gates Foundation has undermined the effectiveness of the U.N. and its member organizations, like the WHO. | Mar 21 19:35 |
schestowitz | Happens all the time | Mar 21 19:35 |
jono | I think you will find that *everyone* in the Open Source industry knows someone at MS | Mar 21 19:35 |
schestowitz | Also stattes in a recent survey about press+PR | Mar 21 19:35 |
ender2070 | A: On the contrary that is what we really want -- contributions from the business community as well as philanthropies. We need to have political support, but it doesn't give us all that we need. NGOs and philanthropies and many foundations such as Bill Gates Foundation -- they're taking a very important role. The United Nations stands in the center of mobilizing and raising awareness of climate change and food security. | Mar 21 19:35 |
ender2070 | When this H1N1 flu broke out I immediately had a meeting with WHO Director Margaret Chan. We even convened a meeting with international pharmaceutical CEOs in Geneva. We were discussing how pharmaceutical companies could help providing vaccines for developing countries. Major pharmaceutical companies have now donated 150 million vaccines. | Mar 21 19:35 |
ender2070 | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/thebusinessofgiving/2010141457_on_saturday_they_tried_somethi.html | Mar 21 19:35 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Business of Giving | A conversation with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon | Seattle Times Newspaper .::. Size~: 58.92 KB | Mar 21 19:35 |
jono | I have some good pals at MS - Sam Ramji is a friend, Nic McGrath, Peter Galli, and I am friends with Miguel | Mar 21 19:35 |
jono | but believe me, I am not biased | Mar 21 19:35 |
ender2070 | jono - you don't sound biased | Mar 21 19:36 |
jono | one of these days I will tell schestowitz about a story that *really* outlines this | Mar 21 19:36 |
DaemonFC | jono: Tell them to make Internet Explorer 9 not suck, then to put me on TV commercials to say "IE 9 doesn't suck, I told Microsoft to make IE 9 not suck, I'm a PC and IE 9 was my idea!!! Oh, I can click here to enlarge my penis......WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH OH GOD!!!!!!!...." | Mar 21 19:36 |
DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 21 19:36 |
ender2070 | LOL | Mar 21 19:36 |
schestowitz | :-p | Mar 21 19:37 |
jono | ok, I am out | Mar 21 19:38 |
jono | laters all | Mar 21 19:38 |
ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/30 | Mar 21 19:38 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: UK Ministry of Defense and UN admits Global Elite and Green Agenda | www.pwnage.ca .::. Size~: 13.04 KB | Mar 21 19:38 |
DaemonFC | ender2070: IE 9 running as a standalone browser, hmmm | Mar 21 19:39 |
DaemonFC | with an uninstaller even..... | Mar 21 19:39 |
DaemonFC | You don't suppose.... | Mar 21 19:39 |
DaemonFC | No, MS would never lie to us | Mar 21 19:39 |
DaemonFC | IE is a Windows system component, totally integrated in every way | Mar 21 19:39 |
DaemonFC | tentacles even | Mar 21 19:40 |
schestowitz | http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/mar2010/tc20100316_708117.htm | Mar 21 19:40 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Nokia's Kallasvuo: We Must "Move Even Faster" - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 53.72 KB | Mar 21 19:40 |
schestowitz | "What do you expect to deliver as a result of the cooperation with Microsoft this year?" | Mar 21 19:40 |
schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/191932/palm_prime_for_acquisition.html | Mar 21 19:42 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Palm Prime for Acquisition - PCWorld Business Center .::. Size~: 58.23 KB | Mar 21 19:42 |
DaemonFC | http://snapshot.opera.com/unix/snapshot-6252/ | Mar 21 19:46 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Index of /unix/snapshot-6252 .::. Size~: 2.85 KB | Mar 21 19:46 |
DaemonFC | Opera 10.51 snapshots now have DEB and RPM packages | Mar 21 19:47 |
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schestowitz | Can't get a break... | Mar 21 19:49 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 19:50 |
schestowitz | Brother uses Linux and sister bothers him with her husband over it... even though both use Linux at work | Mar 21 19:50 |
schestowitz | [intel and ge] | Mar 21 19:50 |
schestowitz | Opera should go Free | Mar 21 19:50 |
schestowitz | People should set up a petition | Mar 21 19:50 |
schestowitz | They worry about their mobile browser business | Mar 21 19:50 |
schestowitz | They can keep it shut on phones | Mar 21 19:51 |
schestowitz | Most phones are locked down anyway | Mar 21 19:51 |
schestowitz | A tricky area for everything FOSS | Mar 21 19:51 |
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ender2070 | oh god, opera sucks | Mar 21 19:52 |
ender2070 | i just ran it | Mar 21 19:52 |
schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hsw18BYSUmlqy6DmtCCd_WfM1pwQ | Mar 21 19:54 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: AFP: Twitter meshes into websites with @Anywhere .::. Size~: 10.04 KB | Mar 21 19:54 |
schestowitz | "Twitter on Monday began letting its hot microblogging service be integrated into websites such as YouTube and Microsoft's Bing with a new "@Anywhere" feature." | Mar 21 19:54 |
schestowitz | They forgot Google? | Mar 21 19:54 |
WireWulf | i just ran googles browser it sucks too | Mar 21 19:54 |
schestowitz | Google did more than just build a GUI around Webkit | Mar 21 19:54 |
schestowitz | They made some good engines | Mar 21 19:55 |
schestowitz | Now 3D too | Mar 21 19:55 |
schestowitz | Not that sites should use that | Mar 21 19:55 |
schestowitz | It's like JS or Flush[sic] | Mar 21 19:55 |
ender2070 | i got a screenshot | Mar 21 19:56 |
ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/opera.png | Mar 21 19:56 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 21 19:56 |
ender2070 | ugly fonts | Mar 21 19:57 |
MinceR | 185706 < schestowitz> MinceR: Jack Wallen is "pragmatist" | Mar 21 19:58 |
MinceR | who's that? | Mar 21 19:58 |
MinceR | ender2070: ugly fonts, just like chromium? | Mar 21 19:58 |
ender2070 | i like the fonts in chromium | Mar 21 19:58 |
ender2070 | anti aliasing for the win | Mar 21 19:58 |
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schestowitz | http://www.pixelbeat.org/misc/google_stars.html | Mar 21 20:01 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Google's Open Source Stars .::. Size~: 20.17 KB | Mar 21 20:01 |
schestowitz | ender2070: fonts look decent | Mar 21 20:01 |
schestowitz | You run at a low-res | Mar 21 20:02 |
ender2070 | 1280x800 | Mar 21 20:02 |
ender2070 | not low res | Mar 21 20:02 |
schestowitz | So I imagine it looks diffrent over yours | Mar 21 20:02 |
ender2070 | ill show you the other browsers | Mar 21 20:02 |
schestowitz | Rescaled? | Mar 21 20:02 |
ender2070 | konquerer resizes the pictures | Mar 21 20:02 |
ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/firefox.png | Mar 21 20:03 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 21 20:03 |
MinceR | ender2070: it doesn't break Vera/DejaVu Sans for you? | Mar 21 20:03 |
ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/chromium.png | Mar 21 20:03 |
MinceR | http://gizmodo.com/5498412/sql-injection-license-plate-hopes-to-foil-euro-traffic-cameras | Mar 21 20:03 |
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phIRCe-BNc | Title: SQL Injection License Plate Hopes to Foil Euro Traffic Cameras - License Plate - Gizmodo .::. Size~: 64.74 KB | Mar 21 20:03 |
ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/konquerer.png | Mar 21 20:03 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Not a web page! Aborting image/png type .::. Size~: 0 KB | Mar 21 20:03 |
schestowitz | http://www.wipo.int/ipstats/en/statistics/patents/wipo_pub_931.html#a | Mar 21 20:04 |
ender2070 | im on my laptop right now | Mar 21 20:04 |
*schestowitz hates WIPO | Mar 21 20:04 | |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: World Patent Report: A Statistical Review (2008) .::. Size~: 195.71 KB | Mar 21 20:04 |
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schestowitz | WHy can't you be like the rest of the kids and use Firefox? | Mar 21 20:04 |
schestowitz | [sarcasm /] | Mar 21 20:04 |
schestowitz | ender2070: ah, OK | Mar 21 20:05 |
ender2070 | i prefer chromium | Mar 21 20:05 |
schestowitz | I wouldn't use a laptop anymore cause of res | Mar 21 20:05 |
schestowitz | I used to dual-head with laptop+external | Mar 21 20:05 |
ender2070 | ahh | Mar 21 20:05 |
schestowitz | Since I was 19 | Mar 21 20:05 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 20:05 |
schestowitz | Win98 | Mar 21 20:05 |
*schestowitz ducks | Mar 21 20:05 | |
ender2070 | i use my virtual desktops | Mar 21 20:05 |
schestowitz | Yeah, those help | Mar 21 20:06 |
ender2070 | thats why you dont see irc in those screenshots | Mar 21 20:06 |
schestowitz | Sometimes though it's good to have big windows | Mar 21 20:06 |
schestowitz | I use Thunderbird spread across 2 screens | Mar 21 20:06 |
ender2070 | my email is gmail powered | Mar 21 20:06 |
ender2070 | i usually use the web based client | Mar 21 20:06 |
ender2070 | google apps for domains | Mar 21 20:07 |
DaemonFC | I might use Chrome if it had a real adblock add-on | Mar 21 20:07 |
schestowitz | '“However Justice Stevens is going to come out on an issue, he is going to do it in a way that is very friendly and avuncular and good-natured,” Paul Clement, who was George W. Bush’s Solicitor General from 2005 to 2008, says.' http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/03/22/100322fa_fact_toobin | Mar 21 20:07 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: What will the Supreme Court be like without Justice John Paul Stevens? : The New Yorker .::. Size~: 139.71 KB | Mar 21 20:07 |
DaemonFC | Opera and Firefox block things from even being downloaded or rendered | Mar 21 20:08 |
DaemonFC | Chrome has some add-on that uses CSS tricks to hide things that are already downloaded and rendered | Mar 21 20:08 |
*schestowitz uses Google just for search | Mar 21 20:08 | |
schestowitz | [and video] | Mar 21 20:08 |
ender2070 | http://mail.pwnage.ca | Mar 21 20:08 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Pwnage.ca .::. Size~: 9.75 KB | Mar 21 20:09 |
ender2070 | badass | Mar 21 20:09 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 20:09 |
ender2070 | thanks to the chinese attacks, i got SSL now too | Mar 21 20:09 |
ender2070 | if my server goes down, i still have email | Mar 21 20:10 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Just filed Issue 38844: Mashable Website suffers "snapping" with the Chromium bug report page. #chromium | Mar 21 20:10 | |
schestowitz | Why is Groklaw so fascinated by Apple? | Mar 21 20:10 |
schestowitz | I don't get it, she links to http://blogs.computerworld.com/15750/apple_hires_senior_prototype_engineer_for_work_on_wearable_computers | Mar 21 20:10 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Apple hires 'Senior Prototype Engineer' for work on wearable computing - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 130.79 KB | Mar 21 20:10 |
ender2070 | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html | Mar 21 20:10 |
schestowitz | Can't they just leave it for Apple to do its PR? | Mar 21 20:10 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: As if Things Weren't Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S. - WSJ.com .::. Size~: 112.54 KB | Mar 21 20:10 |
schestowitz | ender2070: no | Mar 21 20:10 |
ender2070 | DaemonFC will love this link | Mar 21 20:10 |
ender2070 | LOL | Mar 21 20:10 |
schestowitz | It won't 'end" | Mar 21 20:10 |
schestowitz | Depends what WSJ means by "end" | Mar 21 20:11 |
ender2070 | read it | Mar 21 20:11 |
ender2070 | not really 'end' | Mar 21 20:11 |
schestowitz | End of lifestyle maybe | Mar 21 20:11 |
ender2070 | but the states get sold off | Mar 21 20:11 |
schestowitz | That's not a prediction | Mar 21 20:11 |
schestowitz | It's already happening | Mar 21 20:11 |
schestowitz | Tent cities and all... | Mar 21 20:11 |
ender2070 | detroit is being shrunk | Mar 21 20:11 |
ender2070 | poverty will 'save the planet' | Mar 21 20:11 |
schestowitz | ender2070: it's old | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | 2008 | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | ender2070: heh | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | Did Gates say it? | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | He likes saying "Amazing" | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | So I've heard | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | I have a long post about him | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | He made almost $10 billion last year | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | Quite a GIVER *LOL* | Mar 21 20:12 |
schestowitz | Lucky for him, sheeple fall for his PR campaigns | Mar 21 20:13 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 20:13 |
ender2070 | remember he said his vaccines will reduce the population | Mar 21 20:13 |
schestowitz | In Russia people would just know it's propaganda | Mar 21 20:13 |
ender2070 | and people cheered, laughed and clapped | Mar 21 20:13 |
schestowitz | You'll see evidence in my post | Mar 21 20:13 |
schestowitz | They spend millions advertising DONATIONS | Mar 21 20:13 |
DaemonFC | for once I am watching C-SPAN | Mar 21 20:13 |
DaemonFC | ugggh | Mar 21 20:14 |
schestowitz | Why would DONATIONS need whole firms advertising them and pushing journalists? | Mar 21 20:14 |
ender2070 | something like 10 cents out of every dollar actually goes to the cause its supposed to be for | Mar 21 20:14 |
schestowitz | The money comes from you | Mar 21 20:14 |
schestowitz | Taxpayers | Mar 21 20:14 |
schestowitz | Gates just lobbies for donations | Mar 21 20:14 |
schestowitz | The money comes from GOvt | Mar 21 20:14 |
ender2070 | yeah | Mar 21 20:14 |
schestowitz | I'll show you sneak preview | Mar 21 20:14 |
ender2070 | carbon credits too | Mar 21 20:14 |
schestowitz | Cause Canucks get raped | Mar 21 20:14 |
ender2070 | bags of nothing | Mar 21 20:14 |
schestowitz | Chanucks | Mar 21 20:15 |
schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62E1CD20100315 | Mar 21 20:15 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Donors asked for $4.3 billion for vaccines for poor| Reuters .::. Size~: 52.94 KB | Mar 21 20:15 |
schestowitz | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hWjvyWEicz9AimSmXEYs-l1UZr7wD9EH36PG2 | Mar 21 20:15 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Associated Press: Gates-linked vaccine group wants $4.3 billion .::. Size~: 9.66 KB | Mar 21 20:15 |
schestowitz | Canada: | Mar 21 20:15 |
schestowitz | http://www.pr-inside.com/microsoft-canada-opens-up-to-help-r1785896.htm | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2010/03/16/hiv-vaccine-isotopes-aglukkaq-butler-jones.html | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Canada Opens Up to Help Fuel Local App Ecosystem in Vancouver Gov 2.0 initiative takes centre stage in fostering government culture of transparency & innovation .::. Size~: 28.86 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: CBC News - Manitoba - Finances sank HIV vaccine facility bid .::. Size~: 34.45 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/canada/Feds+drop+plans+build+vaccine+facility/2590512/story.html | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Feds drop plans to build vaccine facility .::. Size~: 78.34 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://topnews.us/content/213464-health-department-under-scrutiny-after-scrapping-hiv-vaccine-facility-plan | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Health Department Under Scrutiny after Scrapping HIV Vaccine Facility Plan | TopNews United States .::. Size~: 64.75 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/canada/Feds+drop+plans+build+vaccine+facility/2590512/story.html | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/health-boss-grilled-on-city-vaccine-plan-88079682.html | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Feds drop plans to build vaccine facility .::. Size~: 78.34 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Health boss grilled on city vaccine plan - Winnipeg Free Press .::. Size~: 66.61 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/Flaws+cited+report+used+shelve+vaccine+facility/2698581/story.html | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/gates-study-on-hiv-vaccine-facility-fatally-flawed-expert-88532227.html | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Flaws cited in report used to shelve HIV-vaccine facility .::. Size~: 88.52 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Gates study on HIV vaccine facility 'fatally flawed': expert - Winnipeg Free Press .::. Size~: 75.81 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/breakingnews/Study-used-to-determineVaccine-facility-decision-process-88423967.html | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Report used in shelving HIV-vaccine facility flawed: critique - Winnipeg Free Press .::. Size~: 71.19 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/Vaccine-facility-decision-process-fair-and-open-Butler-Jones-87813742.html | Mar 21 20:16 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Vaccine-facility decision process 'fair and open': Butler-Jones - Winnipeg Free Press .::. Size~: 76.99 KB | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | Remember: | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | Fates invests in your govt. | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | $2 billion IIRC | Mar 21 20:16 |
schestowitz | *Gates | Mar 21 20:17 |
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MinceR | http://torrentfreak.com/why-google-made-bittorrent-a-success-100321/ | Mar 21 20:18 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Why Google Made BitTorrent a Success | TorrentFreak .::. Size~: 36.02 KB | Mar 21 20:18 |
ender2070 | yeah I know | Mar 21 20:18 |
schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/undercover-feds-on-facebook | Mar 21 20:18 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Undercover Feds on Social Networking Sites Raise Questions | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 89.22 KB | Mar 21 20:18 |
ender2070 | microsoft has been safe from anti-trust lawsuits here too | Mar 21 20:19 |
ender2070 | big surprise | Mar 21 20:19 |
ender2070 | i've made numerous complaints, which were ignored | Mar 21 20:19 |
ender2070 | i've made complaints about rogers and bell and was told by the government they werent going to do anything | Mar 21 20:20 |
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schestowitz | [PJ: I want one, if only because it has a battery you can replace, unlike with an iPad, where you have to turn in your old iPad if the battery dies and get a brand new iPad for $100. First, you have to move all your stuff elsewhere, meaning via Apple sanctioned methods, or you lose it all.] - | Mar 21 20:25 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 20:26 |
ender2070 | http://www.rodale.com/phthalate-plasticizers?cm_mmc=DailyNewsNL-_-2010_03_16-_-Top5-_-NA | Mar 21 20:26 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: phthalate plasticizers | Chemicals in Plastic Linked to Low IQs in Kids | Rodale News .::. Size~: 33.38 KB | Mar 21 20:26 |
ender2070 | I wondered why it was always yuppies carrying around their plastic water bottles | Mar 21 20:27 |
schestowitz | http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202446313024&Confidentiality_Issues_Mushroom_in_the_Tribune_Bankruptcy | Mar 21 20:28 |
schestowitz | Whoa | Mar 21 20:28 |
phIRCe-BNc | Title: Law.com - Confidentiality Issues Mushroom in the Tribune Bankruptcy .::. Size~: 27.61 KB | Mar 21 20:28 |
schestowitz | $10bn in debt | Mar 21 20:28 |
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ender2070 | seems like a 8.8 billion people population is being predicted for 2040 | Mar 21 20:34 |
ender2070 | which isn't much | Mar 21 20:34 |
ender2070 | i guess they take sterility and population control into account | Mar 21 20:35 |
MinceR | it's a lot more than there should be | Mar 21 20:35 |
ender2070 | mincer - you're welcome to sterilze yourself and end the problem | Mar 21 20:35 |
ender2070 | if you really believe it | Mar 21 20:35 |
MinceR | that won't end the problem | Mar 21 20:35 |
DaemonFC | It would be nice if they excluded smokers from health coverage | Mar 21 20:35 |
ender2070 | sure | Mar 21 20:35 |
ender2070 | less offspring, your kids might have kids | Mar 21 20:35 |
MinceR | that will merely damage the gene pool | Mar 21 20:35 |
DaemonFC | or just made the cigarettes so expensive that the taxes offset their abuse of the system | Mar 21 20:36 |
ender2070 | your kids might have more than one kid,and then you are damaging the planet | Mar 21 20:36 |
MinceR | yes, i'm sure sterilizing one of 7 billion will make a lot of change | Mar 21 20:36 |
ender2070 | if you dont you're a hypocrite | Mar 21 20:36 |
ender2070 | hard core environmentalists are doing it | Mar 21 20:36 |
MinceR | if you think that will solve the problem, you're an idiot | Mar 21 20:37 |
ender2070 | i dont think it will | Mar 21 20:37 |
ender2070 | because its not even a problem | Mar 21 20:37 |
ender2070 | im just saying you're a hypocrite if you dont | Mar 21 20:38 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Anyone want to add all the PyQt snippets to the python-snippets project? See http://is.gd/aRlwU for details. :-) #qt #kde #pythonsnippets | Mar 21 20:38 | |
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ender2070 | because you cant say population increase is bad, and then increase the population | Mar 21 20:38 |
ender2070 | and not be a hypocrite | Mar 21 20:38 |
MinceR | i'm not increasing the population | Mar 21 20:38 |
ender2070 | if you have a child you are | Mar 21 20:39 |
MinceR | maybe you jump on every passing female to copulate, but i don't | Mar 21 20:39 |
ender2070 | it would be the same as saying microsoft is the devil, and continuing to use their products | Mar 21 20:39 |
ender2070 | if you think population is a problem don't have kids | Mar 21 20:40 |
MinceR | because everyone has the freedom to choose not to use m$ products, right? | Mar 21 20:40 |
MinceR | and the only way to not have kids is by sterilizing yourself, right? | Mar 21 20:40 |
ender2070 | yes but if you say ms sucks, and you're writing it from a windows box, you're a hypcrite | Mar 21 20:41 |
MinceR | you have interesting ideas | Mar 21 20:41 |
MinceR | no, i can write it from a winblows box from experience | Mar 21 20:41 |
ender2070 | yeah right | Mar 21 20:41 |
MinceR | i did use winblows so i know how much it sucks :> | Mar 21 20:41 |
ender2070 | winblows shouldnt even be there | Mar 21 20:41 |
ender2070 | i used to fix ppls pc's with it | Mar 21 20:41 |
MinceR | i don't control every pc in the world | Mar 21 20:41 |
ender2070 | and population control isnt something we need to volunteer on either | Mar 21 20:43 |
ender2070 | theres plenty of chemicals that sterilize people in everyday products | Mar 21 20:43 |
MinceR | probably the best way to control population would be preventing idiots from making children | Mar 21 20:43 |
MinceR | it would also help with the problem of worldwide idiocy | Mar 21 20:44 |
ender2070 | best method of population control is removing warning labels from hazards ;) | Mar 21 20:44 |
MinceR | that could be part of the solution | Mar 21 20:44 |
ender2070 | make seat belts and helmets optional again too | Mar 21 20:44 |
ender2070 | survival of the fittest | Mar 21 20:44 |
ender2070 | they should stop deforesting BC and the rain forest | Mar 21 20:45 |
ender2070 | im looking at figures that say the population is gonna hit 9.1 billion and stay there till 2100 | Mar 21 20:46 |
ender2070 | from 2050 | Mar 21 20:46 |
MinceR | what will happen in 2100? mass extinction event? | Mar 21 20:46 |
ender2070 | no they stopped predicting | Mar 21 20:46 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 20:46 |
ender2070 | they arent the maya | Mar 21 20:47 |
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ender2070 | its certainly growing way slower than it would normally, had there not been bishphenol a in plastic | Mar 21 20:48 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: http://www.flickr.com/photos/atzu/4365152223/sizes/l/ | Mar 21 20:49 |
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DaemonFC | hehe | Mar 21 20:49 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ender2070> I seen the dialog with Lumpy and you on Phonoix | Mar 21 20:49 |
Chips_B_Malroy | and I liked your information on your site about Acess co ltd | Mar 21 20:49 |
ender2070 | :D | Mar 21 20:50 |
ender2070 | for your information, he still hasn't called the cops on me | Mar 21 20:50 |
Chips_B_Malroy | nice graph btw. I think Google is going kill Acess off, and a certain troll that works for them | Mar 21 20:50 |
ender2070 | i might put a counter up on my site | Mar 21 20:50 |
ender2070 | yeah he didnt argue my access stuff | Mar 21 20:51 |
ender2070 | he just persisted in ad hominem against me | Mar 21 20:51 |
Chips_B_Malroy | he if full of it, likes to threatren people | Mar 21 20:51 |
ender2070 | claiming im "criminally harassing" him | Mar 21 20:51 |
ender2070 | because i asked access what they thought of him calling rms a rapist | Mar 21 20:51 |
Chips_B_Malroy | but then I think he has deep personal problems | Mar 21 20:51 |
ender2070 | a lot of people do | Mar 21 20:52 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 20:52 |
MinceR | i think the problem is that he exists | Mar 21 20:52 |
ender2070 | ROFLMAO | Mar 21 20:52 |
ender2070 | +1 | Mar 21 20:52 |
Chips_B_Malroy | him and I went around and around, on this site | Mar 21 20:52 |
MinceR | as we've discussed before, there are far more people on this planet than necessary :> | Mar 21 20:53 |
Chips_B_Malroy | 200 comments on one of Roy's article | Mar 21 20:53 |
ender2070 | they existed before, now they have computers | Mar 21 20:53 |
Chips_B_Malroy | so Lumpy is now the Larry Flint of Limo? Or Gnome advisory board | Mar 21 20:54 |
ender2070 | hes not on the advisory board anymore | Mar 21 20:54 |
ender2070 | access can't afford to throw away another $20k | Mar 21 20:54 |
ender2070 | it used to be 10k | Mar 21 20:54 |
Chips_B_Malroy | but he does seem to have the ear of Mark Shuttleworth | Mar 21 20:54 |
ender2070 | they finally got out of debt it looks like from the stocks | Mar 21 20:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Mark actually listens to this guy | Mar 21 20:55 |
ender2070 | Mark is a business type | Mar 21 20:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ender> yes Acess will fail | Mar 21 20:55 |
ender2070 | I saw this one video, "how open is open" and lumpy bashed google for not being community friendly | Mar 21 20:56 |
ender2070 | yet you can get the full access source code | Mar 21 20:56 |
ender2070 | err | Mar 21 20:56 |
ender2070 | full android source code | Mar 21 20:56 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Acess code is not free or open source, at least the majoraty of it | Mar 21 20:57 |
ender2070 | Mincer - http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/D70F2CC7-5673-43AE-BA73-1F887801266C/0/20100202GST_4_Global_Strategic_Trends_Out_to_2040UDCDCStrat_Trends_4.pdf | Mar 21 20:57 |
Chips_B_Malroy | and they charge for it, unlike Google | Mar 21 20:57 |
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ender2070 | Chips_B_Malroy - ALP uses Netfront | Mar 21 20:58 |
ender2070 | netfront sucks | Mar 21 20:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | which is the downfall of Winmo and will also be of Acess | Mar 21 20:58 |
MinceR | ender2070: what's that? | Mar 21 20:58 |
MinceR | (the pdf) | Mar 21 20:58 |
ender2070 | mincer - the document i was refering to | Mar 21 20:58 |
ender2070 | mincer - UK DOD predictions to 2040 | Mar 21 20:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | is Acess Netfront based on Netpositive from | Mar 21 20:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | BeOS? | Mar 21 20:58 |
ender2070 | they predict regular people will become terrorists | Mar 21 20:58 |
ender2070 | due to political changes | Mar 21 20:58 |
ender2070 | Chips_B_Malroy - i wonder, apparently they own the rights to BeOS | Mar 21 20:59 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes, they got that from buying Palmsource | Mar 21 20:59 |
ender2070 | they killed yellowtab for it | Mar 21 20:59 |
ender2070 | i read some stuff by lumpy on that | Mar 21 21:00 |
MinceR | who's lumpy? | Mar 21 21:00 |
Chips_B_Malroy | cause what I see, is Acess is not an innovator, but modifies someone elses product | Mar 21 21:00 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes, Lumpy was the hacket man for Acess on Yellowtab | Mar 21 21:00 |
ender2070 | it was "how open is open" or another talk he did where he explained how to use the community to your businesses advantage | Mar 21 21:01 |
ender2070 | so they love open source | Mar 21 21:01 |
ender2070 | saves them money | Mar 21 21:01 |
Chips_B_Malroy | well, Lumpy is another reason to "Love" Google, as Google is in the process of crushing Acess and therefore its troll | Mar 21 21:02 |
ender2070 | he got banned from androids moderated mailing list | Mar 21 21:02 |
ender2070 | for trolling them | Mar 21 21:02 |
Chips_B_Malroy | because Android is superior to ALP and is truly free | Mar 21 21:03 |
Chips_B_Malroy | question is, when Acess folds, will Shuttleworth hire Lumpy? | Mar 21 21:03 |
ender2070 | Chips_B_Malroy - can I show you something funny in PM? | Mar 21 21:03 |
Chips_B_Malroy | sure | Mar 21 21:04 |
ender2070 | lumpy likes palm and apple kind of stuff | Mar 21 21:04 |
ender2070 | hes just using open source, he never talked about it when he worked at apple | Mar 21 21:05 |
ender2070 | he takes credit for bonjour being open source but apple won't verify that | Mar 21 21:05 |
ender2070 | his name isn't in the source code anywhere | Mar 21 21:05 |
ender2070 | he just talks shit and comes off as convincing sometimes | Mar 21 21:06 |
ender2070 | convincing enough to his cronies | Mar 21 21:06 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ender> did you ever read all the bs from lumpy on this site when I debated with him | Mar 21 21:08 |
Chips_B_Malroy | you might find it enlightening | Mar 21 21:09 |
ender2070 | no i didnt | Mar 21 21:09 |
Chips_B_Malroy | he has no friends | Mar 21 21:09 |
Chips_B_Malroy | not real ones | Mar 21 21:09 |
Chips_B_Malroy | he only has business aquantances, that he calls friends | Mar 21 21:10 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 21:10 |
ender2070 | got a link? | Mar 21 21:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | his religion, buddest, is a scam. his learning of Japanese, his watchin Japanese TV and movies, all designed to suck up to his bosses | Mar 21 21:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | that how he keeps his job | Mar 21 21:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | a suck up yes man | Mar 21 21:11 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Working on my GNOME Journal contribution #gnome #gnomejournal | Mar 21 21:12 | |
ender2070 | yeah a suck up | Mar 21 21:12 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ender> I don't have the link, but maybe a search for lefty here on BN | Mar 21 21:12 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Roy asked me not to feed the troll after that, so I have kept my word | Mar 21 21:13 |
Chips_B_Malroy | you have a lot of information on your site, but there is a few things of value in those posts | Mar 21 21:14 |
Chips_B_Malroy | lumpy as a buddists, lack of friends, hatred of GNU | Mar 21 21:15 |
ender2070 | ill go through it | Mar 21 21:15 |
Chips_B_Malroy | btw, I have nothing against buddists | Mar 21 21:15 |
ender2070 | i've been researching him quite a bit | Mar 21 21:15 |
ender2070 | dude i dont believe the buddist stuff for another reason | Mar 21 21:15 |
Chips_B_Malroy | the more you do, the more slim you see | Mar 21 21:16 |
ender2070 | he is an occultist who likes Aleister Crowley | Mar 21 21:16 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes, I read that | Mar 21 21:16 |
ender2070 | http://people.tribe.net/stonemirror | Mar 21 21:16 |
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ender2070 | crazy shit | Mar 21 21:16 |
ender2070 | and i believe its his profile because it has pictures i haven't seen anywhere else | Mar 21 21:17 |
ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/17/microsoft-apologists-vs-rms/ | Mar 21 21:18 |
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ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/14/microsoft-bing-fail/ | Mar 21 21:18 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Google will stop his source of income, but they cannot stop his trolling | Mar 21 21:20 |
MinceR | perhaps starvation will stop his trolling after he loses his source of income | Mar 21 21:20 |
MinceR | or not being able to fund his internet connection | Mar 21 21:20 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ender>find the one with appox 200 comments | Mar 21 21:21 |
ender2070 | kk | Mar 21 21:21 |
Chips_B_Malroy | if Acess is gone, he will not have the chair on Gnome Advisory, or Limo | Mar 21 21:22 |
ender2070 | Mincer - he brags about spending my yearly income flying around the world | Mar 21 21:22 |
ender2070 | 30K+ | Mar 21 21:22 |
Chips_B_Malroy | his "big man" ego problem. " | Mar 21 21:22 |
MinceR | ender2070: if access goes bankrupt, they won't be able to fund such trips anymore | Mar 21 21:23 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Lumpy is a God..............at least in his own mind | Mar 21 21:23 |
ender2070 | i think they pay for it too | Mar 21 21:24 |
ender2070 | lumpy probably performs occult shit to give him powers (in his mind) | Mar 21 21:24 |
Chips_B_Malroy | me too. as he attacks those, such as google, that hurt Acess | Mar 21 21:24 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | also, since Acess basically takes free software and makes it theirs, Lumpy attacks free, while using his titles, and pretending to be an advocate of free. | Mar 21 21:25 |
ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - im on the front page of his attack site right now | Mar 21 21:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | he is fond of his titles too | Mar 21 21:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | its best not to bother with this clown Lumpy, the one thing he is very good at is being a troll. | Mar 21 21:27 |
DaemonFC | http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/62812 | Mar 21 21:27 |
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schestowitz | This man's channel is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5369-OobM4 | Mar 21 21:28 |
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schestowitz | ender2070: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo | Mar 21 21:28 |
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ender2070 | i think he could get the trolling patent | Mar 21 21:29 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ender> I will tell you this, if you must exchange words with Lumpy, try to take the high roads, without namecalling. Also, don't get mad or lose you cool. Last, do your best to tie him to Acess and their failure. | Mar 21 21:30 |
Chips_B_Malroy | he is not going want to talk about Acess. Worse the failure of Acess. | Mar 21 21:30 |
ender2070 | you've read my stuff | Mar 21 21:30 |
ender2070 | im usually very polite | Mar 21 21:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes, and its very good | Mar 21 21:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Mar 21 21:31 |
DaemonFC | http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/19/1538221/gop-officials-threaten-court-challenge.html | Mar 21 21:31 |
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ender2070 | sometimes he resorts to making fun of my typos or spelling errors | Mar 21 21:31 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 21:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Lumpy has a way of insulting that is designed to bring out the worse in reply's. I know that | Mar 21 21:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | And he is very good at humor in his insults | Mar 21 21:32 |
Chips_B_Malroy | but then, he has had so much practice at trolling | Mar 21 21:32 |
ender2070 | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/17/microsoft-apologists-vs-rms/ | Mar 21 21:33 |
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ender2070 | has 223 comments | Mar 21 21:33 |
ender2070 | i think thats the one | Mar 21 21:33 |
_goblin | right back. | Mar 21 21:33 |
ender2070 | he should apply for the patent | Mar 21 21:33 |
ender2070 | nobody would have prior art on trolling | Mar 21 21:34 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | ender> it maybe two days b4 that post | Mar 21 21:35 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Ender> maybe a graph and post on Acess co ltd impending decline in cellphone software would be a good post for BN? | Mar 21 21:39 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | After all, that don't seem to be able to compete with google, or for that matter even Apple Iphone | Mar 21 21:40 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Has Acess really ever done better than sometimes barely breaking even? 2006 to 2009, basicall when Lefty started there, according to your graph, they lost a lot of money. | Mar 21 21:42 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | One wonders where the money is coming from? | Mar 21 21:42 |
ender2070 | did you see my latest? | Mar 21 21:43 |
ender2070 | android vs access linux platform? | Mar 21 21:43 |
Chips_B_Malroy | last night was there | Mar 21 21:43 |
Chips_B_Malroy | no | Mar 21 21:43 |
ender2070 | http://www.pwnage.ca/?q=node/28 | Mar 21 21:43 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | u have the link? | Mar 21 21:43 |
schestowitz | "Lumpy" would fit in a parents' home | Mar 21 21:44 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ender> yes now I remember, I did read it | Mar 21 21:44 |
ender2070 | yay netfront | Mar 21 21:45 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 21:45 |
ender2070 | sony blue-ray players are now running it | Mar 21 21:45 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Roy> Lumpy, because he reminds me of the little kid on Leave it to Beaver that was not very bright | Mar 21 21:45 |
MinceR | Lumpy is also the reindeer in Happy Tree Friends | Mar 21 21:46 |
ender2070 | ROFL | Mar 21 21:46 |
ender2070 | Happy Tree Friends =) | Mar 21 21:46 |
MinceR | indeed | Mar 21 21:46 |
ender2070 | he might be Burnt Face Man | Mar 21 21:48 |
ender2070 | http://www.fat-pie.com/bfm9.htm | Mar 21 21:48 |
Chips_B_Malroy | he had suck puppets in the phonoix thread | Mar 21 21:48 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | *sock | Mar 21 21:49 |
ender2070 | oh, in the phoronix forums? | Mar 21 21:49 |
ender2070 | miguel is there too | Mar 21 21:49 |
Chips_B_Malroy | kano from kanotix, but nice post from him too | Mar 21 21:49 |
Chips_B_Malroy | anyone notice that kano has a new preview release of Kanotix on Dec27,2009? | Mar 21 21:50 |
Chips_B_Malroy | its only 32bits, 2.26.32 KDE3.5 but very nice | Mar 21 21:51 |
DaemonFC | Stallman minus 30 years, 150 pounds, and a beard? | Mar 21 21:52 |
Chips_B_Malroy | kanotix fell of the distrowatch radar at appox 123 now | Mar 21 21:53 |
ender2070 | i think miguel is yotambien | Mar 21 21:54 |
DaemonFC | I should try out Pinta :P | Mar 21 21:54 |
ender2070 | Pinta, rofl | Mar 21 21:55 |
ender2070 | paint.mono | Mar 21 21:55 |
DaemonFC | it works on .Net too apparently | Mar 21 21:56 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Lxde is nice, and now the google summer of code might help that become a major WM | Mar 21 21:56 |
MinceR | it's a DE, not just a WM :> | Mar 21 21:57 |
Chips_B_Malroy | because if Gnome keeps going the way it is with Mono, and voting on leaving GNU, that only leaves KDE as the other majore one | Mar 21 21:57 |
Chips_B_Malroy | not that there are not others | Mar 21 21:59 |
ender2070 | i already use KDe | Mar 21 22:00 |
ender2070 | KDE | Mar 21 22:00 |
ender2070 | i love it | Mar 21 22:00 |
Chips_B_Malroy | me too | Mar 21 22:00 |
MinceR | maybe there will be more than one major DE that isn't copying macos | Mar 21 22:00 |
Chips_B_Malroy | it would be hard for me to use Gnome again | Mar 21 22:00 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Ender> maybe should ask jono about the shuttleworth lefty connection? | Mar 21 22:05 |
ender2070 | mincer - go for some windowmaker | Mar 21 22:05 |
MinceR | that's just a WM | Mar 21 22:05 |
MinceR | and GNUStep is horrid | Mar 21 22:05 |
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ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - lefty knew about the roy interview | Mar 21 22:06 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | IceWM is very low resource for low end machines | Mar 21 22:09 |
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MinceR | that's no DE | Mar 21 22:09 |
Chips_B_Malroy | true | Mar 21 22:10 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Afterstep getting closer to it | Mar 21 22:10 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Xfce is | Mar 21 22:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Ender> I liked the lumpy quote on "balanced" | Mar 21 22:17 |
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oiaohm | http://stop.zona-m.net/digiworld/microsoft-where-did-you-get-those-data-about-opendocument Something for you to follow up as well schestowitz | Mar 21 22:18 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/26/microsoft_security_essentials_rogue/ | Mar 21 22:19 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/open_source/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223100713 | Mar 21 22:23 |
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DaemonFC | Windows 2000 has just over 3 months to live | Mar 21 22:25 |
Chips_B_Malroy | <DaemonFC> Windows 2000 has just over 3 months to live" For Corporations this might matter, for those at home, still running W2000, doubt it matters much | Mar 21 22:29 |
Chips_B_Malroy | you safer with 3rd party solutions, antivirus, antimalware, running limited user, than MS updates, which all too often bork the system | Mar 21 22:32 |
Chips_B_Malroy | and removing MS middleware as completely as you can: IE, WMP, Outlook, Messinger | Mar 21 22:32 |
_goblin | Chips_B_Malroy, its not just MS updates that bork the system, as BitDefender customers found out: http://openbytes.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/windows-7-the-trojan-bitdefender-is-spot-on/ | Mar 21 22:33 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | even safer, disable the internet on windows | Mar 21 22:33 |
_goblin | or just disable Windows | Mar 21 22:33 |
Chips_B_Malroy | and glue shuts your usb ports | Mar 21 22:33 |
_goblin | the internet is fine....its Windows which is the problem. | Mar 21 22:33 |
Chips_B_Malroy | or you could run GNU/Linux | Mar 21 22:33 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin> this is not the first time that an antivirus/malware has deleted system files | Mar 21 22:34 |
Chips_B_Malroy | or screwed up the regristry | Mar 21 22:35 |
Chips_B_Malroy | and it won't be the last either, I predicted it here | Mar 21 22:35 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Does Ipad really have batteries that cannot be replaced? | Mar 21 22:38 |
MinceR | indeed | Mar 21 22:38 |
MinceR | it's a typical crApple product | Mar 21 22:38 |
MinceR | at least not replaceable by the end-user | Mar 21 22:38 |
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ender2070 | chips_b_malroy - quote on balanced? | Mar 21 22:39 |
ender2070 | oh from the soundboard | Mar 21 22:39 |
ender2070 | lol | Mar 21 22:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MinceR> as a former Windose user, I know the importance of being able to take the battery out of a laptop when it hangs bad | Mar 21 22:39 |
MinceR | you do | Mar 21 22:39 |
MinceR | crApple cultists don't | Mar 21 22:40 |
MinceR | actually the point isn't taking it out when it "hangs bad" | Mar 21 22:40 |
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MinceR | the point is being able to keep spares, to be able to use the computer while you're waiting for replacement batteries, etc | Mar 21 22:40 |
MinceR | if it just hangs bad, hold down the power button :> | Mar 21 22:40 |
ender2070 | yeah its more lock in | Mar 21 22:41 |
MinceR | of course there are also security considerations to being able to replace the battery yourself | Mar 21 22:41 |
Chips_B_Malroy | what this seems like to me, is Jobs has figured out a way to cut out a part, the battery sled, making it cheaper. Plus he has figured out that now Apple will be the only ones replaceing batteries, so more income. | Mar 21 22:41 |
MinceR | he also figured out that his cultists won't mind being screwed over yet again. | Mar 21 22:42 |
Chips_B_Malroy | For a $500 machine, seems like Apple could spring for a removeable battery to me | Mar 21 22:42 |
MinceR | crApple is all about contempt for the user | Mar 21 22:42 |
MinceR | and it's getting more and more rightful contempt all the time :> | Mar 21 22:42 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes, so you most likely will not be able to buy a battery replacement for cheaper off ebay for the Ipad. One would have to pay the monopoly Apple $99 plus shipping if it failed. Of course that price will go up, and with no competition. | Mar 21 22:43 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Figure the battery and the warrenty, you can guess which ones dies first. | Mar 21 22:45 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MinceR> Apple could be far worse than MS is they ever got that share of the market. I said before that if Pystar lost it case (and they have) that only bad things would come of that. Witness the lawsuits now with Apple. | Mar 21 22:47 |
ender2070 | apple users dont mind paying insane cash | Mar 21 22:47 |
ender2070 | they are used to it | Mar 21 22:47 |
MinceR | they could be far worse than m$, but i doubt they'll ever get close to getting a greater market share | Mar 21 22:48 |
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ender2070 | nat friedman said he was gonna send apple $1000 for whatever it was they were releasing, before jobs even told anyone about it | Mar 21 22:48 |
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MinceR | their attempts to service business users were always feeble | Mar 21 22:48 |
MinceR | and unsuccessful | Mar 21 22:48 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Merely because apple users do not have the malware problems of MS, which Linux users share in common with not having either | Mar 21 22:48 |
_goblin | ender2070: after seeing many collegues and their Iphones/collection of apps, Ive come to the conclusion that the average Apple customer will buy anything. | Mar 21 22:48 |
MinceR | actually afaik they do have some malware problems already | Mar 21 22:49 |
MinceR | and if they gain market share, that will be _much_ worse | Mar 21 22:49 |
MinceR | osx is missing most modern means to mitigate malware | Mar 21 22:49 |
_goblin | I think I will tweet about that. | Mar 21 22:49 |
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ender2070 | osx was always getting pwned 2 own | Mar 21 22:50 |
ender2070 | the guy who keeps doing it has kept his exploits to himself for years | Mar 21 22:51 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] After looking at a friends collection of "Iphone apps" Ive come to the conclusion that Iphone customers will buy absolutely anything. #apple | Mar 21 22:51 | |
Chips_B_Malroy | MinceR> yes some malware problems, agreed. and yes, Linux is safer IMO than Mac too. But still, a very few problems compared to 4 million malware exploits and its derivatives, on Windows, is almost like saying none. | Mar 21 22:51 |
MinceR | much of that difference probably comes from the difference in installed base | Mar 21 22:52 |
MinceR | then again, osx is probably not the same festering pile of vulnerabilities winblows is | Mar 21 22:52 |
Chips_B_Malroy | much of that difference come from the fact that I have never seen a home user run Windows as a limited normal user. Only some companies I have seen do this | Mar 21 22:53 |
MinceR | yeah, they have some seriously bad practices there | Mar 21 22:54 |
MinceR | winblows app developers among others | Mar 21 22:54 |
MinceR | then again the security hole called "UAC" isn't helping things much either | Mar 21 22:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Mac is stolen, or borrowed BSD/Darwin underneath the hood, so it should be more secure than M$ | Mar 21 22:55 |
ender2070 | rofl | Mar 21 22:55 |
ender2070 | im just reading stuff lumpy mentioned on BN where he said multiple times a comment might be considered "inflammatory" | Mar 21 22:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | UAC was a bandaid | Mar 21 22:56 |
ender2070 | like advil! | Mar 21 22:56 |
ender2070 | :) | Mar 21 22:56 |
MinceR | they did mostly build it on stolen Mach/FreeBSD code but they touched it without clue or care | Mar 21 22:56 |
MinceR | at least they did this more recently than m$ did so there's probably less cruft accumulated | Mar 21 22:57 |
Chips_B_Malroy | UAC was so M$ could say, see, we are doing something. UAC was so only 1/3 of malware could be blocked, and M$ could try to sell OneCare. OneCare turned out to be a failure though | Mar 21 22:57 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Mac OS9 copeland had viruses, if I remember correctly | Mar 21 22:58 |
MinceR | an often overlooked issue seems to be that there aren't many places to go to if a mac needs servicing (there's only crApple, afaik) | Mar 21 22:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Mar 21 22:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | so that why the battery issue is a big one in the Ipad | Mar 21 22:59 |
MinceR | osx has viruses too, it also has virus scanners | Mar 21 22:59 |
Chips_B_Malroy | but not like OS9 did | Mar 21 22:59 |
DaemonFC | it'd be nice to see a Windows port of Transmission | Mar 21 22:59 |
MinceR | iirc there was that case when crApple considered recommending antivirus for osx, but realized what connotations that has and silenced it | Mar 21 22:59 |
Chips_B_Malroy | OS9 I think was wide open like winders | Mar 21 22:59 |
_goblin | Ive had an endorsement by the Vistaretweet bot on Twitter....its proudly broadcasting my comment of : | Mar 21 23:00 |
_goblin | "XP is not bad when compared to Vista and 7, but the Windows platform pales in comparison to Linux." | Mar 21 23:00 |
MinceR | it's more like winblows 3.1 than the newer ones | Mar 21 23:00 |
MinceR | cooperative multitasking and stupid stuff like that | Mar 21 23:00 |
MinceR | (then again iirc even win9x had cooperative multitasking when you were running 16bit apps) | Mar 21 23:01 |
MinceR | no memory protection either | Mar 21 23:01 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MinceR> Mac OS9 was setup as administrator out of the box, I believe, just like M$ Windows. And had more malware problems than even IBM OS/2 | Mar 21 23:02 |
MinceR | it didn't even have user accounts or access control, did it? | Mar 21 23:02 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] How to make a million: 1. Think of a silly idea 2.Make it into an Iphone app. 3. Wait for the iphone customers money to come rolling in. | Mar 21 23:03 | |
DaemonFC | _goblin: There's a few ways in which Windows 7 is preferable to Vista and XP | Mar 21 23:03 |
Chips_B_Malroy | If I am correct on this, than the MS shills that always post that Linux does not have malware because of its size are again proven wrong. As Mac OS9 with less than 3% or 2% had malware problems too | Mar 21 23:03 |
DaemonFC | There's a number of ways it isn't | Mar 21 23:03 |
MinceR | of course if someone who can't service computers is negligent enough to leave mission critical data on a mac and it dies he's completely at crApple's mercy to retrieve his data | Mar 21 23:03 |
DaemonFC | I'd never put it on an XP-era PC though | Mar 21 23:03 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Im beginning to think now that the true brainwashed are not Windows customers, but are Iphone instead. Have you seen the lightsaber app? | Mar 21 23:04 | |
_goblin | DaemonFC, The vista bot disagrees with you ;) All bow to the words of the sacred Redmond bot. | Mar 21 23:04 |
DaemonFC | There's quite a few newer processors out there that don't even have proper drivers in XP | Mar 21 23:04 |
DaemonFC | it's what happens when the processor drivers have gone 3 years without being updated | Mar 21 23:04 |
_goblin | DaemonFC, with the way windows performs would the end-user even notice? | Mar 21 23:04 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: vista7 is preferable to vista in the way vista sp2 is preferable to vista sp1 | Mar 21 23:04 |
MinceR | (but only if you know enough to fix vista7's braindead default UAC configuration) | Mar 21 23:05 |
DaemonFC | neither Vista SP was real important | Mar 21 23:05 |
DaemonFC | mainly just update rollups | Mar 21 23:05 |
MinceR | vista7 is just an sp with a new name and a new skin | Mar 21 23:05 |
_goblin | Ive had a day with a friends Iphone today.....what utter, utter rubbish. | Mar 21 23:05 |
DaemonFC | There's differences | Mar 21 23:06 |
DaemonFC | there's improvements to DWM and the fault tolerant heap for example | Mar 21 23:07 |
Chips_B_Malroy | What I think makes Apple evil, is the fact that Mac OS X runs on x86 pc hardware. And only runs by adding an EFI chip that only function is DRM to make sure that you paid Apple. This is defective by design, and not what you expect of a truly free market system. This is what the Pystar case was all about. | Mar 21 23:07 |
MinceR | "DWM" is what Elmer Fudd saying "DRM" sounds like? :> | Mar 21 23:08 |
DaemonFC | display window manager | Mar 21 23:09 |
DaemonFC | the compositor | Mar 21 23:09 |
DaemonFC | http://blocklistpro.com/latest/when-a-keygen-is-more-than-a-keygen.html | Mar 21 23:09 |
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DaemonFC | lol | Mar 21 23:09 |
MinceR | keygens should be ran sandboxed, obviously :> | Mar 21 23:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Goblin> Nicholas Kolakowski over on the old MS Watch site is putting all the commentators to sleep with his excessive M$ fauwning. | Mar 21 23:12 |
Chips_B_Malroy | its like a ghost town over there | Mar 21 23:12 |
Chips_B_Malroy | So if there's no multi-tasking in the Ipad, would that also mean no copy and paste? Seems like I believe there was some limited copy and paste or cut and paste with TSR programs even in Dos. | Mar 21 23:15 |
Chips_B_Malroy | 3rd party apps of course | Mar 21 23:16 |
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Jerry Seinfeld Makes “Lousy Celebrity Endorsement” for #Microsoft After Reportedly Dumping Windows http://ur1.ca/qzde | Mar 21 23:18 | |
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_goblin | Chips_B_Malroy, its a shame, MS watch was always good for a laugh and a source of great material....remember the "Vista is loved" comment by Andre Da Costa? | Mar 21 23:19 |
MinceR | afaik they did implement copy/paste without multitasking in the hypePhone | Mar 21 23:19 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Ender> Lumpy is not a Mint user, he was documented as using Mac OS X here on BN | Mar 21 23:20 |
Chips_B_Malroy | he only started running linux here on BN after Roy busted him on it, and I rubbed it in | Mar 21 23:21 |
Chips_B_Malroy | MinceR> thanks, was not sure about that, copy and paste | Mar 21 23:22 |
MinceR | winmob7 will apparently have neither, though :> | Mar 21 23:23 |
Chips_B_Malroy | The purpose of Winmo7, whoops I mean the "new completely redesigned from the ground up" Windows Phone 7, seriously escaped me. That should have been "renamed" Phone Seven. Why continue a product that has no future? Unless for | Mar 21 23:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | ARM Smartbooks | Mar 21 23:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | cause its more than hopeless now for phones | Mar 21 23:27 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Access has no shot now on cell phones, and Winmo has less. | Mar 21 23:28 |
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_goblin | Winmoob 7 has missed the boat even if it was great.....can it seriously compete with the established base of Android and Apple? | Mar 21 23:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | it cannot compete with free android | Mar 21 23:32 |
_goblin | I don't think it could compete with Tomy. | Mar 21 23:32 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Not sure if Iphone can complete with free Android | Mar 21 23:34 |
DaemonFC | "The budget office estimates that the bill would provide coverage to 32 million uninsured people, but still leave 23 million uninsured in 2019. One-third of those remaining uninsured would be illegal immigrants." | Mar 21 23:35 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Apple won the Pystar case easy and fast compared to the SCO cases | Mar 21 23:35 |
DaemonFC | So people who have no legal right to be here won't be insured? | Mar 21 23:35 |
DaemonFC | And the problem is.......? | Mar 21 23:35 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | which winning the Pystar case so easily, has embowded Apple to try to sue others | Mar 21 23:36 |
Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> insurance companies are the wrong way to go | Mar 21 23:37 |
DaemonFC | "The bill would require many employers to offer coverage to their employees or pay a penalty." | Mar 21 23:37 |
DaemonFC | strongly agree | Mar 21 23:37 |
Chips_B_Malroy | insurance companies should be outlawed | Mar 21 23:37 |
DaemonFC | companies like Walmart need to be hit by this | Mar 21 23:37 |
DaemonFC | and hit hard | Mar 21 23:37 |
MinceR | well, at least winmob7 will be able to compete with the hypePhone OS on grounds of retardedness | Mar 21 23:38 |
DaemonFC | dumping their own employees on state welfare systems | Mar 21 23:38 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Walmart is already declining here | Mar 21 23:38 |
DaemonFC | this should teach them a lesson | Mar 21 23:38 |
DaemonFC | $2,000 fine per employee not offered insurance per year | Mar 21 23:38 |
DaemonFC | it's cheaper to just offer them insurance | Mar 21 23:39 |
DaemonFC | even if it's not great insurance | Mar 21 23:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Walmart only does good here where they can come in as a Supercenter, where the only competition is the Standard overpriced bunch, like Albertsons, Safeway, Kroger, etc | Mar 21 23:39 |
DaemonFC | Walmart is a lot like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation | Mar 21 23:40 |
DaemonFC | tax deductible charity that doubles as advertising | Mar 21 23:40 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | when Walmart has to separate their stores, the Mart (food) stores do very poorly here | Mar 21 23:41 |
Chips_B_Malroy | bundling | Mar 21 23:41 |
DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: They don't have those here | Mar 21 23:41 |
DaemonFC | I think they only do that where local zoning laws are wicked | Mar 21 23:41 |
sebsebseb | DaemonFC: Lubuntu is quite nice | Mar 21 23:41 |
Chips_B_Malroy | In California, they made them do that | Mar 21 23:41 |
DaemonFC | usually in an effort to keep them out | Mar 21 23:41 |
DaemonFC | yeah, the 100,000 sq foot law | Mar 21 23:41 |
Chips_B_Malroy | and they have some here too | Mar 21 23:41 |
DaemonFC | so they designed a 99,000 sq foot mini supercenter | Mar 21 23:42 |
Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> have you ever seen towns and city | Mar 21 23:42 |
Chips_B_Malroy | es that have only chain restraunts in them? | Mar 21 23:43 |
DaemonFC | well, California is the only place so fucked up that you can make $25 an hour stocking shelves | Mar 21 23:43 |
DaemonFC | so I'd imagine that even the Walmarts out there are kind of expensive | Mar 21 23:43 |
Chips_B_Malroy | There is usually one type of restraunt that can survive in those places as not part of a chain | Mar 21 23:44 |
DaemonFC | the cost of living is unreasonable and the state government is broke | Mar 21 23:44 |
oiaohm | Or you have to be bloodly fast DaemonFC | Mar 21 23:44 |
DaemonFC | they mail back IOUs as tax returns | Mar 21 23:44 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Chinese restraunts. Because they are usually family run, and have low cost to run them. | Mar 21 23:44 |
oiaohm | Ie I am thinking fruit picking here where some people can make 50 Plus dollars per hour. Its payed on performance. DaemonFC | Mar 21 23:45 |
DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: I guess the take home message is "If you live in California, don't have them withhold your state taxes" | Mar 21 23:45 |
Chips_B_Malroy | And now here and in LA, Walmart is up against the wall, as Mexican Supermarkets are kicking their butt here | Mar 21 23:45 |
DaemonFC | must be why they brought in that Mexican guy to manage the US stores | Mar 21 23:46 |
Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> I don't live in Calif, but do visit some | Mar 21 23:46 |
DaemonFC | Eduardo Castro-Wright I think | Mar 21 23:46 |
DaemonFC | Yeah the Mexican stores are doing good, you don't turn them over to the authorities | Mar 21 23:47 |
DaemonFC | all of California is a Mexican colony | Mar 21 23:47 |
Chips_B_Malroy | While Walmart is wiping out the regular old supermarkets, the Mexican supermarkets with their specials are killing Walmart | Mar 21 23:47 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes, but a Mexican supermarket is coming your way soon in time | Mar 21 23:48 |
DaemonFC | nope | Mar 21 23:49 |
DaemonFC | Indiana makes E-Verify mandatory | Mar 21 23:49 |
DaemonFC | there's some illegals here working under the table though | Mar 21 23:49 |
DaemonFC | it's not a major problem like it is elsewhere | Mar 21 23:49 |
Chips_B_Malroy | It only starts here because we have more Mexicans here, but its not like you don't have any there. At first only Mexicans might go to those stores, but the deals are there. Walmart does not even have specials advertised | Mar 21 23:49 |
DaemonFC | We've also made English the official language | Mar 21 23:50 |
DaemonFC | state agencies don't have to print anything in Spanish | Mar 21 23:50 |
Chips_B_Malroy | so what, this is only about food and walmart | Mar 21 23:51 |
DaemonFC | well yeah, there's some here, but you never see ICE raids that bust 400 of them | Mar 21 23:51 |
Chips_B_Malroy | the mexican stores can now hire gringo's for mexican wages here | Mar 21 23:51 |
Chips_B_Malroy | too many out of work | Mar 21 23:51 |
DaemonFC | not legally | Mar 21 23:51 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | well, I mean cheap part time no bennie wages | Mar 21 23:52 |
DaemonFC | yes, state or federal minimum wage, whichever is lower | Mar 21 23:52 |
DaemonFC | errr, higher | Mar 21 23:52 |
DaemonFC | I mean | Mar 21 23:52 |
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DaemonFC | Indiana has a state minimum wage but it's just pegged to the Federal one | Mar 21 23:53 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I bet your state has causal labor laws too, being Republician mostly | Mar 21 23:53 |
DaemonFC | so we have enforcement ability too | Mar 21 23:53 |
oiaohm | http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Novell-rejects-Elliott-Associates-inadequate-bid-959806.html Hmm novell staff are becoming bone heads. | Mar 21 23:53 |
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DaemonFC | as in how? | Mar 21 23:53 |
oiaohm | Stock buy back reduced the number of shares Elliott has to aquire. | Mar 21 23:53 |
Chips_B_Malroy | casual labor laws let you pay some cash only | Mar 21 23:53 |
DaemonFC | cash is legal to pay workers with, but you have to report it all the same to INDOR and the IRS | Mar 21 23:54 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Elliot will now go into a word of wars mode | Mar 21 23:54 |
Chips_B_Malroy | hoping some white night comes in to make them a profit on their stock | Mar 21 23:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | if not, Elliot will make a very very small higher offer, telling them thats it | Mar 21 23:55 |
DaemonFC | there's plenty of temp agencies that hire you and let you call them each day to see if there's work available | Mar 21 23:55 |
DaemonFC | I've worked for one | Mar 21 23:55 |
oiaohm | Either wait for the stock to drop under the buy price so they can get 51 percent and or sell out at profit. | Mar 21 23:55 |
Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC>yes | Mar 21 23:55 |
DaemonFC | it's crazy because you never know what your hours will be. They may give you 15 hours that week, but it'll usually add up to 30-40 | Mar 21 23:56 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Elliot will start making threats now | Mar 21 23:56 |
DaemonFC | something comes up, or someone calls in sick | Mar 21 23:56 |
oiaohm | Elliot only will go away if Novell can raise the share price enough so there planed buy ammout will not work out any more. | Mar 21 23:56 |
Chips_B_Malroy | trying to get Novell to make employee cuts | Mar 21 23:56 |
oiaohm | Reducing shares don't make that happen. | Mar 21 23:56 |
DaemonFC | Chips_B_Malroy: I don't see why that wouldn't be legal in California | Mar 21 23:56 |
DaemonFC | You're telling me that California outlawed on-call employees? | Mar 21 23:57 |
DaemonFC | ;) | Mar 21 23:57 |
Chips_B_Malroy | then when the 2nd deal fall through, Elliot will eithe annoice that its planning on selling its stock or make a much lower bid than the first one | Mar 21 23:58 |
DaemonFC | oh, and you can refuse any assignment that's not on your schedule, but if you do too much of that, you won't be eating that week | Mar 21 23:58 |
DaemonFC | so most of your life is sitting at home waiting for them to call you | Mar 21 23:58 |
Chips_B_Malroy | DaemonFC> calif doesn't mess with the minorities much, its very liberal | Mar 21 23:59 |
DaemonFC | you can imagine what the turnover was like | Mar 21 23:59 |
DaemonFC | there's somethign wrong with messing with the minorities if they're legal citizens | Mar 21 23:59 |
DaemonFC | the rest need to be rounded up and marched back to wherever | Mar 21 23:59 |
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