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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The ‘vulture fund’ responds to #Novell ’s first rejection of a takeover, which still leaves room for more bids http://ur1.ca/r8vzMar 23 00:00
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Paul Singer Still Goes After Novell | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 100.91 KBMar 23 00:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] For a REALLY GOOD lattè, TruTrack Café in North #Melbourne, cnr Queensberry+Leveson! #coffee + free #wifi tooMar 23 00:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @edwardvirtually @artfanatic411 @instantremedy: Google Quits Censoring Search in China // & in just a moment, see #google "quit" #chinaMar 23 00:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #ebay seller insists that Express parcel costs $15. Uh, no. Not for 2 RAM DIMMs. #pleaseleavefeedbackMar 23 00:29
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Currently reading http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/International/iran-releases-osama-bin-ladens-teenage-daughter/story?id=10169432Mar 23 00:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Iran Releases Osama Bin Laden's Teenage Daughter  - ABC News .::. Size~: 68.32 KBMar 23 00:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Report: #Microsoft May be Fined 300,000,000 Pesos (~€55 Million) for Illegally Removing #GNU #Linux as Option http://ur1.ca/r90bMar 23 00:34
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Report: Microsoft May be Fined 300,000,000 Pesos (~€55 Million) for Illegally Removing GNU/Linux as Option | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 102.48 KBMar 23 00:34
MinceRgnMar 23 00:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] The Commodore 64 returns, and it runs Ubuntu! http://is.gd/aTAbQ #ubuntu #commodoreMar 23 00:52
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DaemonFChttp://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/mar/22/daniels-health-reforms-mean-indiana-plan-will-end/Mar 23 00:59
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Daniels: Health reforms mean Indiana plan will end » Evansville Courier & Press .::. Size~: 127.56 KBMar 23 00:59
DaemonFCOur Governor is in a twist because the crappy "barely insurance" program he created as a giveaway to Eli Lilly will have to endMar 23 00:59
DaemonFCboo hooMar 23 00:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @openuniverse there will never be peace between stallman and torvalds. it would be nice, but they're both strongly opposedMar 23 01:08
schestowitz"@schestowitz torvalds doesn't like gnu-style freedom. fsf exists to fight what they call non-free. both are stubborn enough." http://identi.ca/notice/25711960Mar 23 01:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: menn (openuniverse) 's status on Tuesday, 23-Mar-10 00:26:37 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.39 KBMar 23 01:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Novell Accused of Lying About #RedHat Products (Again) http://ur1.ca/r962 #microsoft #zealot #fudMar 23 01:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Novell Accused of Lying About Red Hat Products (Again) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 96.71 KBMar 23 01:13
DaemonFChttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-us-cold-case-conviction,0,3808412.storyMar 23 01:16
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ind. man gets 25 years to life for 1985 murder of Calif. mother whose toddler was in next room - latimes.com .::. Size~: 89.45 KBMar 23 01:16
DaemonFCJustice delayed is justice denied.Mar 23 01:16
schestowitzhttp://kralovstvi.sourceforge.net/ ..Mar 23 01:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 8 Kingdoms - Index .::. Size~: 4.56 KBMar 23 01:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: small issues, IMHOMar 23 01:17
schestowitzOld and affecting one personMar 23 01:17
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schestowitzPharma Cartel kills 100s of 1000sMar 23 01:17
schestowitzhttp://www.osnews.com/story/23005/First_Glance_at_SimplyMEPIS_8_5Mar 23 01:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: First Glance at SimplyMEPIS 8.5 .::. Size~: 37.83 KBMar 23 01:18
DaemonFC" According to a poll carried out by YouGov in 2008, 45% of the British public do not know what Magna Carta is"Mar 23 01:21
DaemonFCheheheMar 23 01:21
DaemonFCI wonder if they can identify Joe CamelMar 23 01:22
DaemonFCB-)Mar 23 01:22
DaemonFChttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1581551/Magna-Carta-what-English-charter-a-mystery-to-45pc-of-population.htmlMar 23 01:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Magna Carta what? English charter 'a mystery to 45pc of population' - Telegraph .::. Size~: 53.58 KBMar 23 01:23
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DaemonFCschestowitz: You should go around asking them if they know what a feudal system isMar 23 01:24
DaemonFCStart a petition to bring it backMar 23 01:24
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DaemonFCunless you think you'll get arrested as a terrorist for walking around with a clipboard and a penMar 23 01:28
DaemonFC;)Mar 23 01:28
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schestowitzhttp://www.inatux.com/article?r=free-software-is-a-democracyMar 23 01:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: InaTux Computers | Articles - Free Software is a democracy, Mark Shuttleworth! .::. Size~: 10.67 KBMar 23 01:29
schestowitzSme good points hereMar 23 01:29
WireWulfweeeeeeMar 23 01:30
DaemonFCso?Mar 23 01:30
Diablo-D3http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/OzAU-8DHFhM/Open-Source-Is-Not-a-DemocracyMar 23 01:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Google FeedBurner .::. Size~: 11.57 KBMar 23 01:30
DaemonFCUbuntu isn'tMar 23 01:30
Diablo-D3erMar 23 01:30
Diablo-D3I see we've gotten there alreadyMar 23 01:30
DaemonFCThe Linux kernel isn'tMar 23 01:30
DaemonFCX.org isn'tMar 23 01:30
Diablo-D3the linux kernel is a distributed republic imoMar 23 01:30
schestowitzLinux is LinuxMar 23 01:30
schestowitzIt doesn't ride on someone else'\s work, according to he abovMar 23 01:31
schestowitzThat's the argument made thereMar 23 01:31
schestowitzUbuntu=components put togetherMar 23 01:31
DaemonFCthe problem with (some) free software projects is they have a cathedral development systemMar 23 01:31
DaemonFCUbuntu is a cathedralMar 23 01:31
schestowitzPurple oneMar 23 01:32
schestowitz:-pMar 23 01:32
DaemonFCwell, Ubuntu isn't really open, it's just "source code available"Mar 23 01:32
DaemonFCyou can go use it for your own ends, but you're not going to tug on their projectMar 23 01:33
schestowitzhttp://www.sinatica.com/blog/en/index.php/2010/03/getting-ready-for-firebird-2-5-mindthebirdMar 23 01:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Getting ready for Firebird 2.5  MindTheBird | Sinática | BLOG .::. Size~: 53.21 KBMar 23 01:33
schestowitzWhat is Ubuntu?Mar 23 01:34
schestowitzWhat is their code?Mar 23 01:34
schestowitzI know there's someMar 23 01:34
schestowitzIncluding projects they addMar 23 01:34
schestowitzSome Canonical code is still proprietaryMar 23 01:34
DaemonFCWell, Launchpad is FOSS, right?Mar 23 01:34
schestowitzNoMar 23 01:34
schestowitzNot entirely , IIRCMar 23 01:34
schestowitzOr maybe it was bzr I think ofMar 23 01:34
DaemonFC" On 21 July 2009, the source code was released publicly under the GNU Affero General Public License"Mar 23 01:35
DaemonFCso yeah, it isMar 23 01:35
schestowitzhttp://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2010/03/doubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-beta1-released.htmlMar 23 01:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu 10.04 ( Lucid Lynx ) Beta1 Released with New Features - Review |Linux and Microcontroller Tips .::. Size~: 126.45 KBMar 23 01:35
schestowitzDaemonFC: I read somewhere about a snagMar 23 01:36
schestowitzHow much money does MArkS have left?Mar 23 01:36
DaemonFCa lot, probablyMar 23 01:36
schestowitzHow much did he make selling his company? I reckon VCs took lots of itMar 23 01:36
DaemonFChe had $75 million after the ISS tripMar 23 01:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: "a lot" is not a quantityMar 23 01:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: source?Mar 23 01:37
DaemonFChe mad $100 million USD selling ThawteMar 23 01:37
DaemonFCthe Russians charged him $25 million to go to ISSMar 23 01:37
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Please, if you're going to discuss assassinating the President, don't do it on Twitter http://ur1.ca/r9abMar 23 01:37
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Two idiots call for President Obama's assassination on Twitter - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 71.59 KBMar 23 01:37
DaemonFCso about $75 million left I thinkMar 23 01:37
DaemonFCthen he put $10 million in this "trust" which still hasn't been touchedMar 23 01:38
DaemonFCthat's in case he can no longer fund UbuntuMar 23 01:38
DaemonFCthe idea is the $10 million is there in case he gets struck by lightning or something I guessMar 23 01:40
*WireWulf zaps the guy who funds ubuntuMar 23 01:40
WireWulf>:DMar 23 01:41
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10468165-71.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20Mar 23 01:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Systems engineer deemed best job in America | Technically Incorrect - CNET News .::. Size~: 168.89 KBMar 23 01:51
schestowitzMar 23 01:51
schestowitz[01:37] <DaemonFC> he mad $100 million USD selling ThawteMar 23 01:51
schestowitzPersonally?Mar 23 01:51
schestowitzWhat about VC if any, or other employees?Mar 23 01:51
schestowitzI'm trying to find out why Ubuntu makes money-grabbing movs like BongBarMar 23 01:51
DaemonFChttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engblom_v._CareyMar 23 01:53
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Engblom v. Carey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 18.04 KBMar 23 01:53
DaemonFClolMar 23 01:53
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Quantum Film might replace CMOS sensors.... time to buy a new Canon http://ur1.ca/r8ta !scienceMar 23 01:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Technology Story | Quantum Film Might Replace CMOS Sensors .::. Size~: 129.02 KBMar 23 01:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[daemonfc] Stuff. (Broadcasting live at http://ustre.am/2ug0)Mar 23 02:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle: USTREAM, You're On. Free LIVE VIDEO Streaming, Online Broadcasts. Create webcasts, video chat, stream videos on the Internet. Live streaming videos, TV shows .::. Size~: 13.85 KBMar 23 02:07
schestowitzDaemonFC: boringMar 23 02:09
schestowitzDo somethingMar 23 02:09
schestowitzI don't knowMar 23 02:09
schestowitzYou post the videoMar 23 02:09
schestowitzOK, just put music onMar 23 02:10
schestowitzSo I can put it in the bgMar 23 02:10
sebsebsebhttp://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2010/03/interview-crunchbang-creator-explains.htmlMar 23 02:10
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 23 02:10
sebsebsebCrunchbang based on Debian now instead of UbuntuMar 23 02:11
schestowitzgnewsense dumped them tooMar 23 02:11
schestowitzMoved to Debian GNU/LinuxMar 23 02:11
schestowitzLast yearMar 23 02:11
schestowitzAnd...Mar 23 02:11
schestowitzMEPISMar 23 02:11
schestowitzIn 2008Mar 23 02:11
sebsebsebschestowitz: well for now at least I guess Mint, kind of has to be based on Ubuntu?Mar 23 02:11
schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20000626-266.html?part=rss&amp;subj=news&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-20Mar 23 02:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Report: Mobile app demand to explode by 2012 | Signal Strength - CNET News .::. Size~: 90 KBMar 23 02:12
schestowitzI think LF has some deal with CNETMar 23 02:12
schestowitzThey promote their junk 'articles'Mar 23 02:12
sebsebsebschestowitz: seems quite a lot of people are leaving Ubuntu, since these recent 10.04  changesMar 23 02:12
schestowitzCBSMar 23 02:12
schestowitzsebsebseb: I reckon, yesMar 23 02:12
schestowitzBetween that and BongBar...Mar 23 02:13
DaemonFCI'm officially stuck at home nowMar 23 02:13
schestowitzThey don't leave LinuxMar 23 02:13
DaemonFCsick and busted car :(Mar 23 02:13
schestowitzDetention?Mar 23 02:13
DaemonFCwater pump explodedMar 23 02:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: and Shuttleworth's reply regarding the buttonsMar 23 02:13
schestowitzIt's like you're a wookie in a blanketMar 23 02:13
sebsebsebschestowitz: in a way it could be a good thing,  last time I was in that big Ubuntu channel,  mainly issues that weren't basicsMar 23 02:13
schestowitzsebsebseb: yesMar 23 02:13
schestowitzhe was being stupidMar 23 02:13
DaemonFCwookie?Mar 23 02:13
DaemonFCblanket?Mar 23 02:14
schestowitzWhy did he materliase in launchpad?Mar 23 02:14
sebsebsebschestowitz: materliase means?Mar 23 02:14
schestowitzJono said the same things, but he's not an authorityMar 23 02:14
schestowitzAnd he said it here in IRC last monthMar 23 02:14
schestowitzsebsebseb: showed his presenceMar 23 02:14
schestowitzI thought about it 2 days agoMar 23 02:14
schestowitzHe should have stayed cloakedMar 23 02:14
schestowitzDaemonFOX: I do the same with my brother sometimesMar 23 02:15
sebsebsebschestowitz: I still haven't actsaully  been on the proper launchpad link, well some article took me to Shuttleworths replyMar 23 02:15
schestowitzBut this one is one-way audioMar 23 02:15
sebsebsebschestowitz: I quite like the idea of a lot of the experienced users leaving Ubuntu for other distros, but not all of them of course,  leaving  the big Ubuntu channel mainly for basic issuesMar 23 02:16
schestowitzDaemonFOX:wtf?Mar 23 02:16
DaemonFChow about now? :PMar 23 02:16
schestowitzMoved to Detroit.Mar 23 02:16
sebsebsebschestowitz: if you think about it,  all  those more advanced technical issues, could put new users off Ubuntu,  but also the whole of Desktop LinuxMar 23 02:16
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DaemonFCWookie in Detroit?Mar 23 02:17
schestowitzsebsebseb: noMar 23 02:17
schestowitzIt's not technical Mar 23 02:17
schestowitzIt's cosmetic/philosophicalMar 23 02:17
schestowitzDaemonFC: noMar 23 02:17
schestowitzNo.Mar 23 02:17
sebsebsebschestowitz: I was on about a  possible result of a lot of the experienced users leaving Ubuntu for other distro'sMar 23 02:18
schestowitzMy mate from Michigan escapedMar 23 02:18
schestowitzTo FinlandMar 23 02:18
sebsebsebschestowitz: yes there are things I don't like much at all about 10.04, but really it is still a good release for total newbies to Desktop LinuxMar 23 02:18
schestowitzIf they canMar 23 02:18
schestowitzPeople don't hear your sideMar 23 02:18
sebsebseband a lot of the newbies find that big Ubuntu channel to busy.  so less users typing stuff is a good thing, that's what I am getting at.Mar 23 02:19
sebsebseband  people that are experienced with Ubuntu,  can do other distro's as wellMar 23 02:19
schestowitzIt's not newsMar 23 02:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: anyway I am looking forward to 10.04 release dayMar 23 02:19
schestowitzit's agendaMar 23 02:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: yes I will be in their big IRCMar 23 02:19
schestowitzMindsetMar 23 02:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: by the way sub-par means not good doesn't it?Mar 23 02:20
schestowitzLet me find a vid..Mar 23 02:20
schestowitzHmmmmm... new one:Mar 23 02:20
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc0EM0IWfTM&feature=subMar 23 02:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Obama Finally Does Something .::. Size~: 149.87 KBMar 23 02:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: are you still typing messages to me?Mar 23 02:20
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpybNHol6LQMar 23 02:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Fox Lies and Coverup .::. Size~: 116.57 KBMar 23 02:20
schestowitzsebsebseb: noMar 23 02:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: that's what I thoughtMar 23 02:21
schestowitzDaemonFOX speaks to me in videoMar 23 02:21
schestowitzI'm trying to listen while typingMar 23 02:21
schestowitzI paused it, DaemonFCMar 23 02:21
schestowitzNo, it ain'tMar 23 02:21
DaemonFCI was saying that maybe I'm just the voice you hear when you play your music backwardsMar 23 02:22
schestowitzThat's a yob's pantsMar 23 02:23
schestowitzhere in the UK you'd be outcastMar 23 02:23
schestowitzJust need to put socks on top of pants' endsMar 23 02:23
schestowitzPyjamas are for childrenMar 23 02:23
schestowitzIt's like something mothers buy for kidsMar 23 02:24
schestowitzDressing up for sleep is too wrongMar 23 02:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: it wouldn't workMar 23 02:24
schestowitzAnd no tape player plays backwardsMar 23 02:25
schestowitzIt's not designed to do thisMar 23 02:25
schestowitzI doiMar 23 02:25
schestowitz*doMar 23 02:25
schestowitzTrain?????Mar 23 02:25
schestowitzUS had collusion vs railMar 23 02:26
schestowitzRidiculous settlementMar 23 02:27
schestowitzMy aunt in FL told meMar 23 02:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @daemonfc Stuff. (Broadcasting live at http://ustre.am/2ug0)Mar 23 02:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: USTREAM, You're On. Free LIVE VIDEO Streaming, Online Broadcasts. Create webcasts, video chat, stream videos on the Internet. Live streaming videos, TV shows .::. Size~: 13.74 KBMar 23 02:27
schestowitzLet's see if anyone bothersMar 23 02:27
schestowitzIt needs JSMar 23 02:27
schestowitzFree market enterpriseMar 23 02:28
schestowitzformerly "Capitalism"Mar 23 02:28
schestowitzAcc. to TXMar 23 02:28
schestowitzTurnerMar 23 02:29
schestowitzNow MSFT COOMar 23 02:29
schestowitzUsed to be @ w4lm4rtMar 23 02:29
schestowitzhttp://wiki.meego.com/L10N_meeting_3_19Mar 23 02:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: L10N meeting 3 19 - Meego wiki .::. Size~: 10.42 KBMar 23 02:30
schestowitzMalware?Mar 23 02:30
schestowitzWe have ASDAMar 23 02:30
schestowitzOwned by the Wal-Squid!Mar 23 02:30
schestowitzDaemonFC: It already happensMar 23 02:31
schestowitzIt's reportedMar 23 02:31
schestowitzBut people's PCs are equally badMar 23 02:31
schestowitz1/3 found to be infected by Microsoft's own s/wMar 23 02:31
schestowitzAnd they mostly scanned USian machinesMar 23 02:31
schestowitzNot the ones in coutnries that are more ripe for ownageMar 23 02:32
schestowitzSUSEMar 23 02:32
schestowitzAnd SCOMar 23 02:32
schestowitzIt's not pronounced SooosMar 23 02:32
schestowitz"Crap Edition"Mar 23 02:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Labour suspends cash-for-influence MPs - If no election was looming, would Labour have suspended them? http://tinyurl.com/yglbnboMar 23 02:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Labour suspends cash-for-influence MPs - Times Online  .::. Size~: 107.55 KBMar 23 02:33
schestowitz2 people inMar 23 02:34
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/7012/1/Mar 23 02:34
schestowitzRitalin neededMar 23 02:35
schestowitzhttp://lwn.net/Articles/379508/rssMar 23 02:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: OpenSSO becomes OpenAM [LWN.net] .::. Size~: 5.85 KBMar 23 02:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @brasandranties will never (ever) have a #starbucks again. // you won't miss it! 000's of better cafés in #Toronto!Mar 23 02:36
schestowitzDaemonFC: I get too much sugar from teasMar 23 02:36
schestowitz*teaMar 23 02:36
schestowitz2-3 cups/dayMar 23 02:36
schestowitzWot??Mar 23 02:36
schestowitzRemedial benefits goneMar 23 02:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: Well, cheaper than crappy coke, stillMar 23 02:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: makes soda industry happyMar 23 02:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: I boil mine on the hob/stoveMar 23 02:38
*schestowitz speaks back @ DaemonFC videoMar 23 02:38
schestowitzWhat do you do now?Mar 23 02:39
schestowitzYou avoided answering beforeMar 23 02:39
schestowitzIt's not on the recordMar 23 02:39
schestowitzDaemonFC: goodMar 23 02:40
schestowitzDaemonFC: helping wal-mart is harming societyMar 23 02:40
schestowitzhttp://www.linux.com/distrocentral/distroblogs/294892:two-ubuntu-community-team-intern-opportunities-availableMar 23 02:41
schestowitzDaemonFC: there are strategiesMar 23 02:41
schestowitzGreenwashingMar 23 02:41
schestowitzDaemonFC: not their intentMar 23 02:42
schestowitzDaemonFC: see Hicks on marketingMar 23 02:43
schestowitzDaemonFC: killed a bbayMar 23 02:44
schestowitzXboxMar 23 02:44
schestowitzPromotion is based on obedienceMar 23 02:45
schestowitzUnnatural selctionMar 23 02:45
schestowitzFor "jerkness"Mar 23 02:45
schestowitzhttp://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Security-hole-fixed-in-Firefox-3-6-960050.html/from/rssMar 23 02:46
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Security hole fixed in Firefox 3.6 - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 34.89 KBMar 23 02:46
schestowitzNo joke...Mar 23 02:48
schestowitz"Shock and awe"Mar 23 02:49
schestowitz"crazy dictator" exampleMar 23 02:49
schestowitzYuckMar 23 02:50
schestowitzCompetitive production line conditionsMar 23 02:50
schestowitzThey do that in ChinaMar 23 02:50
schestowitzPromote/fired based on speed 15 hours/dayMar 23 02:50
schestowitzSweatshopMar 23 02:50
schestowitzTurned.Mar 23 02:51
schestowitzNo.Mar 23 02:51
schestowitzWatch old videosMar 23 02:51
schestowitzrebellion in GMMar 23 02:51
schestowitzMichael Moore, DaemonFCMar 23 02:51
schestowitzDaemonFC: sounds like gym regimenMar 23 02:52
schestowitzplausible denial.Mar 23 02:52
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/ATT-Dell-Aero-and-Palm-Pre-Plus-and-Pixi-Plus/?kc=rssMar 23 02:54
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Dell Aero claimed to be world's lightest Android phone - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 63.62 KBMar 23 02:54
schestowitz"it has to do with Job creation"--p4l1nMar 23 02:54
schestowitzFor dummiesMar 23 02:55
schestowitzEconomics for dummies 101Mar 23 02:55
schestowitzhow does one sleep with trains?Mar 23 02:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: eat plugs?Mar 23 02:55
schestowitz*earMar 23 02:55
schestowitzGlennBag PartyMar 23 02:56
schestowitzSmiling fascistsMar 23 02:56
schestowitzIt's tribalMar 23 02:56
schestowitzTea beggar[sic]Mar 23 02:56
schestowitzDaemonFC: describing enemiesMar 23 02:58
schestowitzNazis did the same with minoritiesMar 23 02:58
schestowitzInc. gaysMar 23 02:58
schestowitzRallying tor powerMar 23 02:58
schestowitzFox folks create illusionsMar 23 02:58
schestowitzOf enemies like Obama, whoever... it has to be a miorityMar 23 02:58
schestowitzThey need to rally majorities for wide supportMar 23 02:59
schestowitzPat Robertson and his gang are like thisMar 23 02:59
schestowitzThey make a career out of being liarsMar 23 02:59
schestowitzFeeding people with desired prejudiceMar 23 02:59
schestowitz"|@schestowitz And people ask me why I loathe #Microsoft... This could be a good #outlawstory candidate."Mar 23 03:00
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/25715979Mar 23 03:00
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Øyvind A. Holm (sunny256) 's status on Tuesday, 23-Mar-10 01:11:09 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.49 KBMar 23 03:00
schestowitzDaemonFC: the shirts suit themMar 23 03:01
schestowitzIt means "I'm a douche"Mar 23 03:02
schestowitzhttp://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/11845.htmlMar 23 03:02
phIRCe-BNcTitle: OpenOffice in Afrikaans .::. Size~: 36.08 KBMar 23 03:02
schestowitzmiddle US states....Mar 23 03:03
schestowitzProbably not as common in the coastMar 23 03:03
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County.jpgMar 23 03:05
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 23 03:05
schestowitzLook at GermanyMar 23 03:08
schestowitzBetween 1929 and 39Mar 23 03:08
schestowitzRadicalisation in the US also sees the good people leavingMar 23 03:08
schestowitzNZ, EU, maybe CAMar 23 03:08
schestowitzDunnoMar 23 03:08
schestowitzwikipediaMar 23 03:11
schestowitzPoint at screenMar 23 03:12
schestowitzWith apertureMar 23 03:12
schestowitzCamera lensMar 23 03:12
schestowitzI can't see the GUIMar 23 03:12
schestowitzBTW, are you recording this?Mar 23 03:16
schestowitzCan it be done while on the flash thing?Mar 23 03:16
schestowitzMight as well make something to fill in videos in BNMar 23 03:17
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schestowitzNo, needs to be oggMar 23 03:17
schestowitzI'm running out of oggs to useMar 23 03:17
schestowitzI used about 600 from Digital Tipping PointMar 23 03:17
schestowitzIf ffmpeg can convert itMar 23 03:17
schestowitzBut it would have to be about the topics oft he siteMar 23 03:18
schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/kaltura-brings-video-services-to-higher-educationMar 23 03:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Kaltura Brings Video Services to Higher Education  .::. Size~: 25.51 KBMar 23 03:18
schestowitzDaemonFC: so try aspirinMar 23 03:21
schestowitzSaid the crackerMar 23 03:22
schestowitzWho exploits your PCMar 23 03:22
schestowitzJuts imagesMar 23 03:25
schestowitzPhotosMar 23 03:25
schestowitzThat company with malware I can recall...Mar 23 03:26
schestowitzSource of tested people?Mar 23 03:26
schestowitzStats deceive thoughMar 23 03:26
schestowitzI read that tooMar 23 03:26
schestowitzAbout 1.5 months agoMar 23 03:26
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DaemonFChttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/04/18/office_workers_give_away_passwords/Mar 23 03:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Office workers give away passwords for a cheap pen • The Register .::. Size~: 20.53 KBMar 23 03:26
schestowitzOh, this is olderMar 23 03:26
schestowitzSocial eng.Mar 23 03:27
schestowitzhttp://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/ubuntu-1004-lucid-lynx-betMar 23 03:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 23 03:27
schestowitzSSH diabled bdd efaultMar 23 03:28
schestowitzEsp. for n00bsMar 23 03:28
schestowitzhttp://lcorg.blogspot.com/2010/03/project-building-all-text-linux_18.htmlMar 23 03:28
phIRCe-BNcTitle: LinuxCommand.org: Tips, News And Rants: Project: Building An All-Text Linux Workstation - Part 14 .::. Size~: 111.52 KBMar 23 03:28
schestowitzMak p/w strength filterMar 23 03:29
schestowitzDisconnection would not resolve itMar 23 03:29
schestowitzLow-hanging fruit will remainMar 23 03:29
schestowitzIn less regulated nationsMar 23 03:30
schestowitzYouhave to police universallyMar 23 03:30
schestowitzAnd disconnect 405 of people inc. businessesMar 23 03:30
schestowitzWon't flyMar 23 03:30
schestowitzMicrosoft is not a sourceMar 23 03:30
schestowitzNoMar 23 03:30
schestowitzYesMar 23 03:30
schestowitz"piracy"Mar 23 03:30
schestowitzRIAA-type..Mar 23 03:30
schestowitzPatches Mar 23 03:30
schestowitzThey have 0daysMar 23 03:30
schestowitzIf not old cracked, there are new onesMar 23 03:31
schestowitzJust kick WIndowsMar 23 03:31
schestowitzhttp://www.webupd8.org/2010/03/finally-opera-1051-deb-and-rpm-linux.htmlMar 23 03:33
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Finally Opera 10.51 .deb And .rpm Linux Packages ~ Web Upd8 .::. Size~: 97.58 KBMar 23 03:33
schestowitzLong overdueMar 23 03:33
schestowitzMy brother downloaded skype as tarballMar 23 03:35
schestowitzDidn't know how to handle itMar 23 03:35
schestowitzI told him to d/l the RPMMar 23 03:35
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schestowitzMSFTer advising Ubuntu.. : http://keithcu.com/wordpress/?p=567Mar 23 03:37
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schestowitztoo tiredMar 23 03:38
schestowitzgnMar 23 03:38
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DaemonFChttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/23/nyregion/23strip.htmlMar 23 04:19
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Finally catching up with some email after a bonkers day on the phone and in meetings.Mar 23 04:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] UDS 10.10 Sponsorship Deadline Draws Close! http://is.gd/aTPlK #ubuntuMar 23 05:37
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Hitler Discovers #Republicans Have No Ideas http://ur1.ca/ra8hMar 23 05:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] GNOME are looking for a sys-admin and need donations! A worthy cause - see http://www.gnome.org/friends/ for details! #ubuntu #gnomeMar 23 05:38
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Editing Shot Of Jaq ready for tomorrow - really fun shot, this one. :-) #shotofjaqMar 23 05:55
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tessierWas someone looking for me earlier? My nick highlight went off but it appears to have scrolled past my bufferMar 23 06:04
WireWulfthe buffer the buffer she is weak captonMar 23 06:07
DaemonFCtessierMar 23 06:07
DaemonFCtessierMar 23 06:07
DaemonFCtessierMar 23 06:07
DaemonFC.....Mar 23 06:08
DaemonFChi :DMar 23 06:08
DaemonFC:PMar 23 06:08
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tessierHiMar 23 06:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Editing complete. Get ready for a cool Shot Of Jaq tomorrow. :-)Mar 23 06:47
DaemonFChttp://able2know.org/topic/72592-1Mar 23 06:54
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DaemonFChmmmmMar 23 06:54
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DaemonFCtessier: That's just shameful.Mar 23 07:01
DaemonFCTotally shameful.Mar 23 07:01
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Nature by Numbers http://ur1.ca/rami !scienceMar 23 07:17
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @rickylais ♻ @urkomasse: #Ubuntu + Rhythmbox + Android = the new MacOS+iTunes+iPod http://is.gd/aTTcD :)Mar 23 07:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Once again overnight my mythtv backend box becomes unresponsive to web requests on some pages. Nothing obvious in logs.Mar 23 08:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] My mythbox :( http://bit.ly/9yVCvcMar 23 08:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [1/11] http://i5.be/aD7Mar 23 09:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [2/11] http://i5.be/aD8Mar 23 09:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [3/11] http://i5.be/aD9Mar 23 09:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [4/11] http://i5.be/aEaMar 23 09:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [5/11] http://i5.be/aEbMar 23 09:45
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_tesla_sportMar 23 09:45
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phIRCe-BNcTitle: Tesla Sport Roadster | Wired.com Product Reviews .::. Size~: 53.29 KBMar 23 09:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [6/11] http://i5.be/aEcMar 23 09:46
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Great read and I totally agree with it http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/google-free-on2-vp8-for-youtubeMar 23 09:47
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open letter to Google: free VP8, and use it on YouTube &mdash; Free Software Foundation .::. Size~: 32.19 KBMar 23 09:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [7/11] http://i5.be/aEdMar 23 09:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [8/11] http://i5.be/aEeMar 23 09:47
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [9/11] http://i5.be/aEfMar 23 09:48
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Diablo-D3NINE ELEVEN?!Mar 23 09:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [10/11] http://i5.be/aEgMar 23 09:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] ACTA stakeholders meeting, 22 March 2010, Brussels [11/11] http://i5.be/aEhMar 23 09:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Ok, so mythtv web interface now responding, telling me lots of programmes are still being recorded (from hours ago)Mar 23 09:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wonder if this is a multiplex problem, might change the backend to only do one channel recording at a time.Mar 23 09:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Anti-Citizen Tyranny Agreement (ACTA) Negotiations VIdeo http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/23/acta-brussels/Mar 23 10:16
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oiaohmhttp://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/133329/  Had to make a news site sooner or latterMar 23 10:50
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Diablo-D3woahMar 23 10:59
Diablo-D3lxer is still around?Mar 23 11:00
oiaohmYep it still around Diablo-D3Mar 23 11:01
oiaohmStill doing new articalesMar 23 11:01
oiaohmhttp://www.fewt.com/2010/03/bye-ubuntu-it-could-have-been-fun-but.htmlMar 23 11:01
phIRCe-BNcTitle: fewt@blog:~$ _: Bye Ubuntu, it could have been fun .. but it wasn't .::. Size~: 177.19 KBMar 23 11:01
schestowitzzoobab: I see you in part 5Mar 23 11:04
schestowitzThey send a Vevendi shill thereMar 23 11:06
schestowitz*VivendiMar 23 11:06
oiaohmhttp://vimeo.com/8733089  This is very nice. Mar 23 11:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Particle Garden on Vimeo .::. Size~: 48.29 KBMar 23 11:11
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Ubuntu sucks and Shuttleworth sucks says one Ubuntu dev, and I agree http://ur1.ca/r4vt !Linux !GNUMar 23 11:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: fewt@blog:~$ _: Bye Ubuntu, it could have been fun .. but it wasn't .::. Size~: 177.19 KBMar 23 11:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Doing the Super Duper Loop-the-looper CPAN dance to update twirssi.Mar 23 11:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Parliament opens its doors to lobbying ex-MPs http://is.gd/aUaY7 #corruption #sleazeMar 23 12:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] With #Novell up for Sale, Novell Products Become Too Risky to Buy http://ur1.ca/rc44 #antitrust #microsoft #takeoverMar 23 12:09
oiaohmhttp://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Mozilla-abandons-Windows-Mobile-961294.html  Not is that good.Mar 23 12:09
oiaohmFor MSMar 23 12:09
phIRCe-BNcTitle: With Novell up for Sale, Novell Products Become Too Risky to Buy | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 97.23 KBMar 23 12:10
Diablo-D3oooh!Mar 23 12:11
Diablo-D3I got a bite!Mar 23 12:11
Diablo-D3http://identi.ca/conversation/25772038#notice-25770732Mar 23 12:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.34 KBMar 23 12:11
schestowitzoiaohm: no, it's notMar 23 12:14
schestowitzWInMob is abandoned by many devsMar 23 12:14
schestowitzSkype and Adobe tooMar 23 12:14
schestowitzMozilla supports AndroidMar 23 12:14
schestowitzMicrosoft loses with DEVELO~1 DEVELO~1 DEVELO~1 on mobileMar 23 12:15
cubezzzThe End is ComingMar 23 12:18
oiaohmVery fast bite Diablo-D3Mar 23 12:23
*Diablo-D3 loves fishing for trollsMar 23 12:23
oiaohmYep because they don't know the basics of rise and fall of open source projects.  Diablo-D3Mar 23 12:25
oiaohmThe bigger worry to me is what will happen to palm.Mar 23 12:28
oiaohmThey have some great patents of firsts they truly did do.Mar 23 12:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mono, the Monopolist’s Sidekick http://ur1.ca/rc7q #Microsoft ’s companions help the company influence other companiesMar 23 12:31
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Mono, the Monopolists Sidekick | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 96.58 KBMar 23 12:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Is the USA ungovernable? http://is.gd/aUe5qMar 23 12:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Online video and audio: programmes and multimedia | The Economist .::. Size~: 22.06 KBMar 23 12:52
MinceRgeekingsMar 23 12:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Amazon Discriminates Against #GNU #Linux And Enables #Microsoft Racketeering http://ur1.ca/rccsMar 23 13:03
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Amazon Discriminates Against GNU/Linux And Enables Microsoft Racketeering | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 100.12 KBMar 23 13:03
oiaohmschestowitz: Remember if you find another way to solve problem you can avoid patent.Mar 23 13:15
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] ♺ @schestowitz: #Amazon Discriminates Against !GNU !Linux And Enables #Microsoft Racketeering http://ur1.ca/rccsMar 23 13:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Amazon Discriminates Against GNU/Linux And Enables Microsoft Racketeering | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 100.12 KBMar 23 13:17
oiaohmschestowitz: blade stops have existed on Concert cutting saws for ages.   Completely different design to the one  that the one person patented.Mar 23 13:19
oiaohmAnd the design is too old to patent it started life in saw mills.Mar 23 13:20
oiaohmOver 60 years ago.Mar 23 13:20
oiaohmand then there is the cap sensing.Mar 23 13:22
cubezzzdidn't the kindle run Linux though?Mar 23 13:38
cubezzzseems to imply Amazon does support Linux to some degreeMar 23 13:38
cubezzzguess I'll try the zaurus ebook thingMar 23 13:40
cubezzzall the kindles run Linux btwMar 23 13:42
oiaohmNot like we talk about it much.Mar 23 13:49
oiaohmit a locked down system cubezzzMar 23 13:49
oiaohmBasically as bad as ipadMar 23 13:49
cubezzzoiaohm, what would you recommend over a kindle?Mar 23 13:51
MinceRamazon is paying m$ for kindleMar 23 13:52
MinceRso it supports the m$ patent FUD campaign/racketMar 23 13:52
cubezzzok, so it's obviously bad thenMar 23 13:52
MinceRperhaps the nook is betterMar 23 13:53
MinceRbut there are many ebook readers out thereMar 23 13:53
MinceRi think i'll wait for color e-paperMar 23 13:53
oiaohmSimple problem I have is all kindle is cannot really be expanded on.Mar 23 13:53
oiaohmThere are some good android double screen devices coming.Mar 23 13:53
oiaohmEpaper one screen nice colour screen the other.Mar 23 13:54
oiaohmSome of those may appear with freedom to put what ever OS you want on them.Mar 23 13:54
oiaohmOf course bar windows.Mar 23 13:54
oiaohmBecause it don't really work on arm chips.Mar 23 13:54
MinceR'whatever OS I want' already implies no windows :>Mar 23 13:55
cubezzzwell, going to try the fbreader on zaurus nextMar 23 13:57
oiaohmsymbium meego android ubuntu(would I really want to)Mar 23 13:57
cubezzzat least on zaurus I can reprogram itMar 23 13:57
oiaohmExactly.Mar 23 13:58
oiaohmYou are in charge of the device so you don't have to dump it because someone else decides not to support it.Mar 23 13:58
oiaohmipads and kindles all risk being fast junk filling up ewaste.Mar 23 13:58
oiaohmBuying locked OS stuff is really anti green.Mar 23 13:59
cubezzzno doubt about thatMar 23 13:59
MinceRi think it's mainly a question of whether you want to take one more device with you for the convenience of an e-paper display.Mar 23 14:00
cubezzzI don't have the source for everything unfortunatelyMar 23 14:00
oiaohme-paper displays are highly power effective.Mar 23 14:01
oiaohmReally well suited for reading stuff.Mar 23 14:01
oiaohmIe cpu can basically power off while waiting to be woken up to change text.Mar 23 14:01
oiaohmAnd e-paper takes no power to maintain.Mar 23 14:02
oiaohmProblem with e-paper color e-paper still suxs.Mar 23 14:02
MinceRi'm more interested in resolution and eye strainMar 23 14:02
cubezzzfine, b&w will doMar 23 14:02
MinceRbut i've never seen an e-paper display directly, only via picturesMar 23 14:02
MinceRoiaohm: what's the problem with color e-paper?Mar 23 14:03
oiaohme-paper good ones execede all lcd screens in black and while.Mar 23 14:03
oiaohmThe color on color e-paper will always seam a little washed out.Mar 23 14:05
oiaohmor little too dark.Mar 23 14:05
cubezzzso what device do I buy to get e-paper?Mar 23 14:05
oiaohmProblem is what e-paper is made of black and white is made with half black half white microspheres turned by electrical.Mar 23 14:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bruce Perens Explains How #Microsoft Controls the #Government , Using Lobbyists http://ur1.ca/rcmu #act #comptiaMar 23 14:06
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Bruce Perens Sheds Light on How Microsoft Controls the Government, Using Lobbyists | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 104.29 KBMar 23 14:06
oiaohmNow half white half red/....  Will give something too light.   How half black half red/...  will give something too dark.  MinceRMar 23 14:07
oiaohmAnd there is currently no way to win that design glitch.  MinceRMar 23 14:07
oiaohmhttp://64.202.120.86/upload/image/articles/2007/the-future-of-electronic-paper/fujitsu-4096-color-e-paper-.jpg  << Look at this proto you can see it clearly.  Remember that should be a fairly bright red front cover.Mar 23 14:08
MinceRicMar 23 14:08
MinceRin that case, the enTourage eDGe looks good enough :>Mar 23 14:09
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] hahaha :D RT: @cnu Wanted @sup3rkiddo - Dead or Alive - http://twitpic.com/1af61sMar 23 14:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Most Wanted in Serendio on Twitpic .::. Size~: 6.8 KBMar 23 14:12
oiaohmNow closer shades of colors are worse on color e-paper as well MinceRMar 23 14:12
oiaohmBasically really good black and white media.  can sux badly color.Mar 23 14:13
oiaohmTo be correct epaper dots can be smaller than what most printers can generate.Mar 23 14:13
oiaohmSo yes basically equal quality to normal A4 in lots of cases.  If you what photo quality you need LCD or OLEDMar 23 14:14
cubezzzwell I got FBReader working :)Mar 23 14:15
oiaohmhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Shuttle-X50V2/  Hmm anyone else think this looks farmilurMar 23 14:17
phIRCe-BNcTitle: All-in-one PC has dual-core Atom - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 59.55 KBMar 23 14:17
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Should governments legislate a preference for open source? - Bruce Perens : http://perens.com/blog/d/2010/3/22/28/ /via @schestowitzMar 23 14:17
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oiaohmhttp://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Neofonie-WePad/  << there are alot like these appearing cubezzzMar 23 14:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Atom-based tablet runs Android, targets publishers - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.2 KBMar 23 14:20
oiaohmBasically we are going to be spolied for choice.Mar 23 14:20
Diablo-D3waitMar 23 14:21
cubezzzstuff like C1000 is still expensive even usedMar 23 14:21
Diablo-D3what url went with that tablet title?Mar 23 14:21
Diablo-D3arvghMar 23 14:22
Diablo-D3I see itMar 23 14:22
Diablo-D3thats ugly as fuckMar 23 14:22
Diablo-D3and why so low res?Mar 23 14:23
Diablo-D3fuck!Mar 23 14:23
Diablo-D3wait, wtf?Mar 23 14:23
Diablo-D3I was looking at the wrong urlMar 23 14:23
Diablo-D3I already posted about the WEPad beforeMar 23 14:23
cubezzzintel noooooMar 23 14:24
cubezzzI don't think the battery will last very long in that thingMar 23 14:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wondering if I've slain the might twirssi godMar 23 14:26
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] A fuller review of the Neofonie WePad 11" tablet. If they can get this under $200, I'll buy one. http://ur1.ca/rcpw !LinuxMar 23 14:27
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Atom-based tablet runs Android, targets publishers - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.21 KBMar 23 14:27
cubezzzok, let's try a book nowMar 23 14:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hmm, I can send from twirssi and that clearly works, but not receiving any updates in my twitter window :( lonelyMar 23 14:31
cubezzzok the ol' zaurus sl-5500 makes a passable ereader :)Mar 23 14:35
MinceRthe Qtek 9100 makes for one too, except for uBook Reader being unreliable crapMar 23 14:38
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cubezzzFBReader seem to work well, maybe there's a version for Qtek?Mar 23 14:43
MinceRhttp://osdir.com/ml/opensolaris-discuss/2010-03/msg00508.htmlMar 23 14:46
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MinceRcubezzz: i don't see any winmob5 portsMar 23 14:46
cubezzzughMar 23 14:47
cubezzzwinmobMar 23 14:47
MinceRugh indeedMar 23 14:47
MinceRbut at least it's not palmos5Mar 23 14:47
MinceRso it can multitask :>Mar 23 14:48
cubezzzstill, you surprise meMar 23 14:48
MinceRi could have got a symbian pda/phone but at the time i though it was more closed than i think it is nowMar 23 14:48
MinceRbut i'm still not sureMar 23 14:48
MinceRthere were no other pda/phone platforms at the time, iircMar 23 14:49
MinceRthe Greenphone never made it past its "development kit" phaseMar 23 14:49
cubezzzI can recommend one of the zaurus SL seriesMar 23 14:50
cubezzzthere's quite a number of them on ebay stillMar 23 14:51
MinceRzaurus isn't produced anymore and has no phone capabilityMar 23 14:51
MinceRi got tired of carrying a pda _and_ a phone long ago :>Mar 23 14:52
cubezzzyes well, I never carry a phone :)Mar 23 14:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Woop woop! Fix0r3d twirssi!Mar 23 14:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Oi oi, folks! How is your day going?Mar 23 14:58
satiperalistening to you at the moment catching up with jaqMar 23 14:58
satiperacompany v communityMar 23 14:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Let's kick today off with a new Shot Of Jaq - Getting In The Game - http://is.gd/aUmp7 - will gaming validate Linux as an OS? #shotofjaqMar 23 14:59
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satiperabloody twitterMar 23 14:59
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Testing stuff please ignore. :-)Mar 23 16:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] http://is.gd/aUmp7 is getting some rocking discussion - what are your thoughts on how Linux can become a better gaming platform? #shotofjaqMar 23 17:15
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Omar87Hi all.Mar 23 17:18
MinceRhayMar 23 17:18
Omar87schestowitz, ping.Mar 23 17:18
Omar87schestowitz, there's a great news that I just heard from my friend an hour ago.Mar 23 17:19
schestowitzheyMar 23 17:20
schestowitzehat's the news?Mar 23 17:20
Omar87One of the major IT firms in our country, a website called Jeeran (www.jeeran.com) are now in the migration phase from MS IIS and ASPee.Net to LAMP. :)Mar 23 17:21
MinceR:)Mar 23 17:21
schestowitz\0/Mar 23 17:22
schestowitzsee? things can improveMar 23 17:23
Omar87Moreover, they are one of the sponsoring companies for our big Open Source event next week.Mar 23 17:23
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schestowitz:-)Mar 23 17:23
Omar87http://jordanopensource.org/campMar 23 17:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open Source Camp | Jordan Open Source Association .::. Size~: 15.16 KBMar 23 17:23
schestowitzSee, that's why MSFT distributes 'free' drugsMar 23 17:24
schestowitzUntil they make no profitMar 23 17:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Tomorrow we are having great function in Kikarvali (Ganganar Rajasthan ) for #olpc distribution. Looking forward to meet edu. ministry #fossMar 23 17:24
schestowitz"Then they dump at you, then they sue you, then you win"Mar 23 17:24
Omar87schestowitz, as my friend has put it, the Jeeran guys have been dissing and cursing MSFT a lot in their previous meeting.Mar 23 17:25
Omar87schestowitz, they seem pretty pissed off.Mar 23 17:25
Omar87schestowitz, exactly.Mar 23 17:25
schestowitzRe: comments not required at the RegisterMar 23 17:25
schestowitz> Andrew Orlowski doesn't like people contradicting him :)Mar 23 17:25
schestowitz> Mar 23 17:25
schestowitz> "OFT to examine BBC's Canvas"Mar 23 17:25
schestowitz> Mar 23 17:25
schestowitz> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/23/oft_canvas_probe/Mar 23 17:25
phIRCe-BNcTitle: OFT to examine BBC's Canvas • The Register .::. Size~: 24.9 KBMar 23 17:25
schestowitzOrlowski is their only writer that I dislike a lot more than Microsoft boosters like Tim and Gavin.Mar 23 17:25
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Observation: I get so excited and impatient about listening to metal, I often don't get past the 'D' artists on my iPod. Think I need help.Mar 23 17:26
schestowitz"@schestowitz isn't there a better picture of Bruce? One where you can see his face, not his neck?" http://identi.ca/notice/25782590Mar 23 17:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Stefano Maffulli (smaffulli) 's status on Tuesday, 23-Mar-10 14:00:22 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.18 KBMar 23 17:26
schestowitzOmar87: sounds goodMar 23 17:26
schestowitzOmar87: wait untilMSFT sues moreMar 23 17:26
schestowitzThen people will ditch itMar 23 17:26
schestowitzLike BlueHostMar 23 17:26
Omar87schestowitz, Most MS clown don't like people who prove how dumb they are.Mar 23 17:26
Omar87clowns*Mar 23 17:26
schestowitzAfter the FUD attack he slammed Microsoft and swore never to use MicrosoftMar 23 17:27
schestowitzOmar87: give as many talks as you canMar 23 17:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I have broken into the F's! Full Blown Chaos's 'Heavy Lies The Crown'. :-)Mar 23 17:27
Omar87schestowitz, talks?Mar 23 17:27
schestowitzBe our FOSS ambassador in the middle east  :-pMar 23 17:27
schestowitzOmar87: presentationsMar 23 17:27
Omar87schestowitz, yeah. I'm planning on doing that soon. (By Allah's well)Mar 23 17:28
schestowitz"@smaffulli licences are a PITA :-)"Mar 23 17:28
schestowitzOmar87: WILL?Mar 23 17:28
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Omar87schestowitz, yes. Thanks. :)Mar 23 17:29
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Omar87(By Allah *will*)Mar 23 17:29
Omar87**(By Allah's will)** Mar 23 17:29
schestowitzIt's a figment of one's willMar 23 17:30
schestowitzBut it can be inspiration and motivations, in one's brainMar 23 17:31
schestowitzI need to run through some news...Mar 23 17:31
schestowitzbrbMar 23 17:31
cubezzzit means sense, why keep paying money to Microsoft?Mar 23 17:35
cubezzzI'm surprised Linux doesn't have a bigger market shareMar 23 17:35
cubezzzit makes senseMar 23 17:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Did I accidentally killfile you or did you quit posting [News] in COLA?Mar 23 17:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Any #fedora folks interested in producing a daily RPM of python-snippets - http://is.gd/aUz2a and bringing Acire in?Mar 23 17:56
phIRCe-BNcTitle: trunk : Branches : Python Snippets .::. Size~: 20.68 KBMar 23 17:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Yay, finally found a location by the window where my Orange Android HTC Hero gets 3g reception. Tethered to laptop via long USB lead \o/Mar 23 17:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] "Ubuntu 10.4 beta is bloody brilliant" http://bit.ly/cca5N1 - Well fancy that! via @davmo2Mar 23 18:06
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu 10.4 beta is bloody brilliant | PC Pro blog .::. Size~: 43.97 KBMar 23 18:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst I'll resume soonMar 23 18:12
schestowitzSlashdot does PR for the trollsMar 23 18:13
schestowitzhttp://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/23/1323204/Bill-Gates-May-Build-Small-Nuclear-Reactor?art_pos=5Mar 23 18:13
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | Bill Gates May Build Small Nuclear Reactor .::. Size~: 145.01 KBMar 23 18:13
schestowitz> Toshiba confirmed it is in preliminary discussions with TerraPower, aMar 23 18:13
schestowitz> unit of Intellectual Ventures, a patent-holding concern partiallyMar 23 18:13
schestowitz> funded by Gates and Toshiba spokesman Keisuke Ohmori says the twoMar 23 18:13
schestowitz> sides are talking about how they could collaborate on nuclearMar 23 18:14
schestowitz> technologyMar 23 18:14
schestowitzBuying some patentsMar 23 18:14
schestowitzfor PR purposesMar 23 18:14
schestowitzAnd  Slashdot advertises it, like the PR staff wantsMar 23 18:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Does anyone know software that can turn WordPress content into a Live CD?Mar 23 18:14
MinceRi hope that reactor won't be near to where i liveMar 23 18:15
MinceRso that the Blue Mushroom Cloud of Death won't kill meMar 23 18:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] I will never stop loving Kataklysm's 'Prevail'.Mar 23 18:19
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schestowitzhttp://ask.slashdot.org/story/10/03/22/1232234/How-To-Avoid-a-Botnet-Infection?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29 "Linux or OSX."Mar 23 18:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Ask Slashdot Story | How To Avoid a Botnet Infection? .::. Size~: 167.25 KBMar 23 18:23
schestowitzMinceR: will run WindowsMar 23 18:25
MinceRimpliedMar 23 18:25
MinceRthat's why i expect it to melt down/explode.Mar 23 18:25
schestowitzNcomputing sells out. http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/22/0450218/New-Chip-Offers-Virtual-Windows-Desktops-On-TVsMar 23 18:26
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Slashdot Hardware Story | New Chip Offers Virtual Windows Desktops, On TVs .::. Size~: 131.23 KBMar 23 18:26
schestowitzTold ya!Mar 23 18:26
MinceRapparently gates liked the quote "Hiroshima 45, Chernobyl 86, Windows 95"Mar 23 18:26
schestowitzUranium Access ControlMar 23 18:26
schestowitzUACMar 23 18:26
MinceRfree access to uranium for everyone?Mar 23 18:26
schestowitzNoMar 23 18:26
schestowitzYou need to buy a licenceMar 23 18:26
schestowitzThere are kill switchesMar 23 18:26
MinceRnah, if it explodes, people around will get uranium, whether they want it or not.Mar 23 18:27
schestowitzFried your CPU and 10 streets afarMar 23 18:27
MinceRwithout licenses.Mar 23 18:27
schestowitzRadeon cardsMar 23 18:27
MinceR:DMar 23 18:27
MinceRand their CMS will be PostNuke or something.Mar 23 18:28
MinceRand they'll play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. on the machine that was supposed to control the reactor.Mar 23 18:28
Omar87Is FSDaily having a down-time or something?Mar 23 18:30
schestowitzhttp://www.tomshardware.com/news/tablet-islate-ipad-netbook-notebook,9929.htmlMar 23 18:30
phIRCe-BNcTitle: 5 Reasons Tablets Suck And You Won't Buy One .::. Size~: 107.22 KBMar 23 18:30
schestowitzOmar87: it has been on and off recently, so I would not be surprisedMar 23 18:31
schestowitzDown from here ATMMar 23 18:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz OK, thanks, I thought you gave upMar 23 18:34
schestowitzhttp://www.news.com.au/technology/gamecrush-lets-gamers-pay-to-play-with-girls/story-e6frfro0-1225844277216Mar 23 18:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: GameCrush lets gamers pay to play with girls |  News.com.au .::. Size~: 64.93 KBMar 23 18:36
schestowitz*LOL*Mar 23 18:36
MinceR:DMar 23 18:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @ml2mst neverMar 23 18:37
MinceR"Excellent. My robe and wizard hat are at the ready"Mar 23 18:38
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTPFUitur0cMar 23 18:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Funniest Vid EVER! Guy gets caught masturbating to Warcraft. .::. Size~: 113.1 KBMar 23 18:38
MinceRlolMar 23 18:38
schestowitzHe was just playin;Mar 23 18:38
MinceR"I don't have time to play with myself."Mar 23 18:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] PC Pro: Ubuntu 10.4 beta is bloody brilliant - http://is.gd/aUC9F #ubuntuMar 23 18:40
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu 10.4 beta is bloody brilliant | PC Pro blog .::. Size~: 43.97 KBMar 23 18:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just a quick note: don't forget that if you want to write awesome apps on Ubuntu, join #ubuntu-app-devel on freenode - it's a fun place. :-)Mar 23 18:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] @schestowitz Cool, nether do I. At times I despise the snake pit. Fortunately the majority are very kind people ;-)Mar 23 18:45
schestowitzhttp://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/03/ubuntu-default-wallpapers-why-not-add.htmlMar 23 18:49
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu default wallpapers- Why not add some nostalgia? | GHABUNTU .::. Size~: 89.68 KBMar 23 18:49
schestowitzhttp://acko.net/blog/making-planetsMar 23 18:50
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Making Worlds: Introduction | Steven Wittens - Acko.net .::. Size~: 14.11 KBMar 23 18:50
schestowitzhttp://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=141 http://phasinggrace.blogspot.com/2010/03/linden-lab-leaping-chasm.htmlMar 23 18:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Terrain, Part 1 - Twenty Sided .::. Size~: 66.47 KBMar 23 18:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Phasing Grace | Social Architecture and Virtual Worlds: Linden Lab Leaping the Chasm? .::. Size~: 119.97 KBMar 23 18:51
schestowitz^^ another app for stupid wankersMar 23 18:51
schestowitz:-DMar 23 18:51
schestowitzhttp://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/03/even_more_on_th.htmlMar 23 18:54
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Schneier on Security: Even More on the al-Mabhouh Assassination .::. Size~: 83.5 KBMar 23 18:54
schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/03/22/that-other-os-self-destructs/Mar 23 18:59
phIRCe-BNcTitle:   That Other OS Self-destructs& at  Robert Pogson .::. Size~: 23.58 KBMar 23 18:59
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Planning For 10.10: Improving How We Review Patches - http://is.gd/aUDtp - how can improve how we review patches? #ubuntuMar 23 19:01
phIRCe-BNcTitle:                   Planning for 10.10: Improving How We Review Patches | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 26.55 KBMar 23 19:01
schestowitz"This might turn into a series, because I recognize that my current employer is sort of a technology tourist attraction and people might want to read about it. On the other hand, it has a culture of very cautious communication, so I’ll have to be careful." http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2010/03/20/Google-VignettesMar 23 19:03
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ongoing by Tim Bray · Life at Google .::. Size~: 13.23 KBMar 23 19:03
schestowitzThose companies turn good people into "machine men"Mar 23 19:03
schestowitzHe won't be slamming patents anymore, I guessMar 23 19:03
schestowitzLeaving one's brain in a jar on the way to work...Mar 23 19:03
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schestowitztessier: I think the server won't serveMar 23 19:07
schestowitzMaybe network issue?Mar 23 19:07
*schestowitz restarts apacheMar 23 19:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] More progress...hitting up Last House On The Left's 'Among Flies'. :-)Mar 23 19:10
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schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8578576.stmMar 23 19:22
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 86.97 KBMar 23 19:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @zoobab http://www.erikjosefsson.eu/sites/default/files/acta_2010mar22.oggMar 23 19:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Not a web page! Aborting audio/ogg type .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 23 19:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Wow, it turns out I am one of the Top 50 Linux Gurus on linux.com - http://is.gd/aUFwa - respec'!Mar 23 19:29
cubezzzschestowitz, that's strange, I've been running Apache for years and never had to restart it, not unless I power downMar 23 19:36
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cubezzzSparc looks interesting Mar 23 19:51
cubezzzit's definitely openMar 23 19:51
WireWulfsparc as in sun's processers ?Mar 23 19:52
MinceRsparc as in oracle's processors :>Mar 23 19:52
MinceRsomebody said the newer versions aren't so openMar 23 19:53
WireWulflol yeah i have heard they are nice am low costMar 23 19:53
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cubezzzso I buy usedMar 23 19:53
WireWulfcubezzz: planing on running a solaris server?Mar 23 19:53
cubezzznopeMar 23 19:53
WireWulflolMar 23 19:54
cubezzzdon't want x86 any moreMar 23 19:54
WireWulfsparc + solaris is like awesome :PMar 23 19:54
cubezzzactually I could use it as a serverMar 23 19:55
goblinphnhi allMar 23 19:55
WireWulf'elloMar 23 19:55
goblinphnusing irc with my new android phoneMar 23 19:56
cubezzzI was offered some old sun equipment from Waterloo but I never got down there to pick it upMar 23 19:56
WireWulfi was offered some old p1'sMar 23 19:56
WireWulfand p3'sMar 23 19:57
MinceRusing irc with my old gnu/linux computersMar 23 19:57
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/?p=28944Mar 23 19:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Who does that server really serve? (by Richard Stallman) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 107.27 KBMar 23 19:57
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cubezzzthere's Sun ST400, but that's too oldMar 23 19:58
cubezzzanyone in here run Sparc?Mar 23 19:58
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cubezzzthere used to be Cyrix and VIA although I haven't heard much from them latelyMar 23 20:00
cubezzzprobably Cyrix is goneMar 23 20:00
cubezzzah, died in 1997Mar 23 20:01
cubezzzor rather merged with National Semi-ConductorMar 23 20:01
MinceRvia is crapMar 23 20:03
MinceRi have a via epia boxMar 23 20:03
_goblinI'm very impressed with Android.......compared to my experience with winmob.Mar 23 20:04
cubezzzI think anything would be better than winmob :)Mar 23 20:04
MinceRwinmob lets your native apps use all the APIs thoughMar 23 20:04
MinceRdepends on which winmobMar 23 20:04
MinceRanything will be better than winmob7Mar 23 20:04
MinceRpalmos5 isn't better than winmob5, thoughMar 23 20:04
cubezzzpalmos5 must be pretty awfulMar 23 20:05
_goblin6 Is what I used beforeMar 23 20:05
MinceRit isMar 23 20:05
MinceRno multitasking, absolutely crap memory managementMar 23 20:05
_goblinnot too keen on the touchscreen keyboardMar 23 20:06
MinceR(if an app asks for too much memory, you get a dialog stating that and offering to reboot)Mar 23 20:06
MinceRi'm not sure of winmob6, the wikipedia article showed a wide variety of default today screens and only one of them was usable (similar to the winmob5 today screen)Mar 23 20:07
MinceRall the others were a pointless waste of screen spaceMar 23 20:07
_goblinI didn't get a Samsung in the end..... got an HTCMar 23 20:07
cubezzzMinceR, I'm at... let me check....Mar 23 20:08
cubezzz15:57:28 up 122 days,  1:21,  2 users,  load average: 3.18, 3.18, 3.13Mar 23 20:08
schestowitzhttps://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2010/03/22/firefox-3-6-2-update-now-available-as-free-download/Mar 23 20:08
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Mozilla Developer News  » Blog Archive   » Firefox 3.6.2 update now available as free download .::. Size~: 19.36 KBMar 23 20:08
cubezzzthat's pretty good for a PDA :)Mar 23 20:08
_goblinand I can do all my website stuff with it....sweet!Mar 23 20:08
cubezzzalso it never gets hot... not even a bit warmMar 23 20:09
WireWulflast palm i used was 4.5 i think :PMar 23 20:09
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I'll resume posting GNU Linux and Free software news shortly. Got to get a pace back...Mar 23 20:09
_goblinam I still onMar 23 20:11
_goblincan anyone read thisMar 23 20:12
cubezzzyes _goblinMar 23 20:12
cubezzzI see youMar 23 20:12
_goblinthxMar 23 20:12
cubezzzI don't know which Sparc to getMar 23 20:13
cubezzzthey must weigh a ton, the shipping prices are often more than the server itselfMar 23 20:13
tessierschestowitz: Server behaving ok? I'll try to remember to put the proxy back in place this evening.Mar 23 20:15
tessierThe load has been rather high lately.Mar 23 20:15
tessierDo you use any sort of analytics package? Has traffic been increasing?Mar 23 20:15
schestowitztessier: thanks, yes, it's backMar 23 20:15
tessierschestowitz: Did the apache restart fix it? Mar 23 20:16
schestowitzSometimes the load goes up very high and it can take ages for pages to reach visitorsMar 23 20:16
schestowitztessier: yesMar 23 20:16
schestowitzI don't know whyMar 23 20:16
tessierPHP weirdness. Mar 23 20:16
schestowitzThat's what I thoughtMar 23 20:16
schestowitzSometimes after heavy load it also stopsMar 23 20:16
schestowitzAnd then throttles againMar 23 20:16
schestowitzOdd behaviourMar 23 20:16
schestowitz[20:15] <tessier> The load has been rather high lately.Mar 23 20:17
schestowitzYes, more trafficMar 23 20:17
schestowitzSome of it could be spiders, but real readers tooMar 23 20:17
schestowitzSome will visit less if it takes a long time for pages to appearMar 23 20:17
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schestowitzSomtimes a minuteMar 23 20:17
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/josephtartakoff/statuses/10885902569 "Google China is redirecting to Google Hong Kong. Will announcement come after market close?"Mar 23 20:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Twitter / Joseph Tartakoff: Google China is redirectin ... .::. Size~: 10.36 KBMar 23 20:18
schestowitzhttp://paidcontent.org/article/419-skype-co-founders-raise-165-million-for-new-fund-short-of-initial-goal/Mar 23 20:18
tessierI would change dns to the proxy right now while I'm thinking about it but I'm just about to head to a lunch appointment. Murphy is surely looking over my shoulder waiting to make the server blow up just as I get out on the freeway.Mar 23 20:18
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Skype Co-Founders Raise $165 Million For New FundShort Of Initial Goal| paidContent .::. Size~: 25.16 KBMar 23 20:18
schestowitztessier: :-)Mar 23 20:18
schestowitzIt was a lot faster with proxy onMar 23 20:18
schestowitzUntil the hardware problem that caused issuesMar 23 20:18
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schestowitzI couldn't count readers between Dec and March (proxy), but they increased by about 1000 per day (uniques)Mar 23 20:19
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scienteshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SIP_Witch_Domain_Telephony#SummaryMar 23 20:19
scientesawesomeMar 23 20:19
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Features/SIP Witch Domain Telephony - FedoraProject .::. Size~: 25.5 KBMar 23 20:19
scientesexactly what I was talking about a few days agoMar 23 20:20
schestowitzHmmm.. tim changed to an ugly theme: http://timothyblee.com/?p=2709Mar 23 20:20
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Pro-Immigration, Anti-Startup Visa : Bottom-up .::. Size~: 12.76 KBMar 23 20:20
schestowitzHis older theme was so much betterMar 23 20:20
tessierAre you averse to google analytics? I should probably set up the proxy to do some per-domain logging and make those logs available somehow. Other people are going to want that also I bet.Mar 23 20:20
schestowitzscientes: I have SIP nowMar 23 20:20
schestowitzEkigaMar 23 20:20
schestowitzIf anyone uses it, let me know..Mar 23 20:20
scientesFedora is always pushing the platform forwardsMar 23 20:20
schestowitztessier: it's intrusiveMar 23 20:21
scientesbut which provides encryptionMar 23 20:21
schestowitzSee the latest post in BNMar 23 20:21
scientesend-to-end encryptionMar 23 20:21
scientes*witchMar 23 20:21
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/23/stallman-on-cloud-hype/Mar 23 20:21
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Who does that server really serve? (by Richard Stallman) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 107.27 KBMar 23 20:21
schestowitzI don't even keep old logs at alMar 23 20:21
schestowitzscientes: the developer of it is a BN contributer, IIRCMar 23 20:21
scientesits a FSF version of ZRTP, designed by the guy who wrote the original PGP softwareMar 23 20:21
schestowitzI can't recall his name, but he mentioned int he comments that he develops itMar 23 20:22
schestowitzWe have some cool people reading the site, but I can't name themMar 23 20:22
scientesahMar 23 20:22
schestowitzscientes: ohMar 23 20:22
schestowitzPGP is ZImmermanMar 23 20:22
schestowitzPhil IIRCMar 23 20:22
scientesthats the protocol, not this implamentation of itMar 23 20:22
scientesits been around for a whileMar 23 20:23
schestowitzPGP CorporationMar 23 20:23
scientesbut implamenting it in libre software is importantMar 23 20:23
scientesno, the person, not corporationMar 23 20:23
_goblinhi Roy ..... got my phone , it turned out to be a HTCMar 23 20:23
scienteshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRTPMar 23 20:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ZRTP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 26.16 KBMar 23 20:23
schestowitzHTC is OK, they fight AppleMar 23 20:23
scientesoh, only since 2006, guess it hasn't been around that longMar 23 20:24
schestowitzMeanwhile I got some bad new re AndroidMar 23 20:24
schestowitzWill post about it tomorrowMar 23 20:24
scientesandroid has long been down shit drainMar 23 20:24
scientes....Mar 23 20:24
scientesgot the drivers pulled from linux mainline for forking the kernelMar 23 20:24
schestowitzIt'll be back to LinuxMar 23 20:24
schestowitzThey'll remergeMar 23 20:24
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schestowitzMaybe in next release of Linux Mar 23 20:24
schestowitzAftr .36Mar 23 20:24
scientesGoogle will dump all their clients driver workMar 23 20:24
schestowitz*After .34Mar 23 20:25
scientescause it will be incompatibleMar 23 20:25
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scientes---maybe Google is trying to put their weight on Linus?Mar 23 20:25
Ziomatrixschestowitz: resistence is future you will be assimilated into the Droid collective, for advertising purposes of our co-sponsors :-DMar 23 20:25
scientesembrace, extend, extinguish.....Mar 23 20:25
schestowitzhttp://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002705Mar 23 20:25
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Against Monopoly  .::. Size~: 21.54 KBMar 23 20:25
Ziomatrixschestowitz: oops I meant resistence is futileMar 23 20:25
schestowitzI only use Google for search and Web videoMar 23 20:26
schestowitzI try to make my own oggs thoughMar 23 20:26
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Google will kill Palm, but whats its next target?Mar 23 20:26
schestowitzI added an ogg version of the ACTA session an hour agoMar 23 20:26
schestowitzSome Swedish guy made itMar 23 20:26
schestowitzZiomatrix: noMar 23 20:27
Ziomatrixschestowitz: lolMar 23 20:27
schestowitzApple, RIM, othersMar 23 20:27
schestowitzIt's very competitive this market...Mar 23 20:27
schestowitzLots of cash...Mar 23 20:27
schestowitzCarriers, search, batteries, insurance, etc.Mar 23 20:27
schestowitzPhones cost abut $2000Mar 23 20:27
schestowitzPCs cost a lot lessMar 23 20:27
Ziomatrixschestowitz: however, you can tell that Google or someone got the Verizon, Spring and other reps to turn away anyone who thinks about a Pre and presenting them an Android headset.Mar 23 20:28
schestowitzGoogle even has a DRM-laden 'app' shopMar 23 20:28
schestowitzhttp://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000002708Mar 23 20:29
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Against Monopoly  .::. Size~: 22.35 KBMar 23 20:29
Ziomatrixschestowitz: you don't see the same kind of thing being done with would-be RIM customers, I guess its because both the Droid and Pre are battling over the 18-30 yr old social networking demographic. Even though there is a decent Blackberry Facebook appMar 23 20:29
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Palm was one of the few companies Apple couldn't touch with lawsuites because their IP portfolio is pretty much the saga of the smartphone.Mar 23 20:30
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: so how do you feel about ACTA, you think it pretty much the US Government trying to spread the worst bits of its civil law and trying to force it upon the rest of the world?Mar 23 20:33
MinceRcrApple still ran a small patent FUD campaign against PalmMar 23 20:33
ZiomatrixMinceR: but notice that they never actually tried to bring it to courtMar 23 20:34
ZiomatrixMinceR: also the FUD campaign had more to do with how Palm contracted many former Apple employees who worked on the iPhone citing some kind of breach in the NDAMar 23 20:35
schestowitzYesMar 23 20:36
schestowitzZiomatrix: yes, ACTA is all liesMar 23 20:36
schestowitzThey have tricks for spinningMar 23 20:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin have a look at http://reddevil62-techhead.blogspot.com/2010/03/interview-crunchbang-creator-explains.htmlMar 23 20:36
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Error processing the URL:  .::. Size~: 0 KBMar 23 20:36
schestowitzLike saying there's no 3-stikeMar 23 20:36
schestowitzWhat they do is, they say they don't require it, but burden on the ISP doesMar 23 20:37
schestowitzAll spinMar 23 20:37
schestowitzhttp://www.ghacks.net/2010/03/20/ubuntu-music-store-coming-soon/Mar 23 20:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Ubuntu Music Store (coming soon!) .::. Size~: 31.11 KBMar 23 20:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @_goblin oops. This one: http://ur1.ca/r3a0 maybe worth discussing in ICMar 23 20:38
phIRCe-BNcTitle: The Red Devil: Interview: CrunchBang Creator Explains Switch to Debian Sources .::. Size~: 98 KBMar 23 20:38
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Obama's direction was quite evident ever since he started appointing the same former Goldmansach stooges and politicians who were products of large corrupt urban political machines. This article sums it up quite nicely: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/31234647/obamas_big_sellout/print Mar 23 20:39
phIRCe-BNcTitle:  Obama's Big Sellout : Rolling Stone .::. Size~: 44.64 KBMar 23 20:39
Ziomatrixschestowitz: Obama ran a campaign in which he garnered support and pitch ideas from some very smart progressive people but then ran a bait and switch once ellected. The last person who supported Obama the whole way through Van Jones was thrown out because Republicans caused an uproar over what he said during the campaignMar 23 20:41
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8579310.stmMar 23 20:43
phIRCe-BNcTitle: BBC NEWS | News Front Page .::. Size~: 86.89 KBMar 23 20:43
schestowitzHaMar 23 20:43
schestowitzhttp://techdirt.com/articles/20100321/2134438648.shtml Conservationists Blaming The Internet For Clubbing Baby SealsMar 23 20:43
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Conservationists Blaming The Internet For Clubbing Baby Seals | Techdirt .::. Size~: 80.17 KBMar 23 20:43
Ziomatrixschestowitz: this combined with copyright, child porn, and terrorism is poised to help governments reign in the webMar 23 20:44
schestowitzZiomatrix: the  Van Jones  story I heard in Democracy Now is differentMar 23 20:44
schestowitzvery differentMar 23 20:44
Ziomatrixschestowitz: what did they say?Mar 23 20:44
schestowitzThe Republican hate monger folks did their thingMar 23 20:45
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schestowitzhttp://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/8/white_house_environmental_adviser_van_jonesMar 23 20:45
phIRCe-BNcTitle: White House Environmental Adviser Van Jones Resigns Citing "Vicious Smear Campaign Against Me" .::. Size~: 58.63 KBMar 23 20:45
schestowitzZiomatrix: yes, the Internet is the devilMar 23 20:46
schestowitzCars tooMar 23 20:46
schestowitzAnd opposers of religionMar 23 20:46
schestowitzIt all takes us back right into the Dark Ages!Mar 23 20:46
scientesschestowitz, exactly their aimMar 23 20:46
schestowitzWe should get back to horseback-riding, pen and paper, and prayerMar 23 20:46
scientesthats why they are so ferociously against contraceptionMar 23 20:46
schestowitzit's easy for politicians to have power that wayMar 23 20:47
schestowitzThey'll just give us TVMar 23 20:47
schestowitzit's a one-way communicatorMar 23 20:47
schestowitzSeen as a propaganda tool around its inceptionMar 23 20:47
scientesthey aim to divide an conquorMar 23 20:48
schestowitzThey'll take out money for protection from Diablo and we'll pray happily till we die :-0 Mar 23 20:48
scientesby creating as many problems as possibleMar 23 20:48
cubezzzhuh?Mar 23 20:48
schestowitzTheocracy dies, not without a struggleMar 23 20:48
scientesnopeMar 23 20:48
scientesthe last time theocracy died, it was only because of plagueMar 23 20:48
schestowitzFinancial meltdown?Mar 23 20:49
scientesthe black plague that destabilized feudalismMar 23 20:49
schestowitzLook what it did to GermanyMar 23 20:49
schestowitzIt's a good thing the US too didn't turn to dictatorshipMar 23 20:49
scientes"we must all hang together or we shall assuredly all hang separately" BFrankMar 23 20:50
schestowitzBut here we have some madmen crashing buildings with planes and buh-bye US democracyMar 23 20:50
cubezzznot the ol' "blankety-blank is a tool of the devil" argumentMar 23 20:50
schestowitzJust what they wantedMar 23 20:50
schestowitzhttp://techdirt.com/articles/20100322/0020568651.shtmlMar 23 20:51
phIRCe-BNcTitle: FIFA Demands Airline Drop Ad That Didn't Mention FIFA At All | Techdirt .::. Size~: 42.71 KBMar 23 20:51
schestowitz"And, along with that it included images of stadiums, national flages and vuvuzelas (a type of horn regularly blown at football matches in South Africa). FIFA apparently sent a threat letter demanding Kulula pull the ad, calling it "ambush marketing." Apparently, FIFA has no sense of humor. After people got annoyed, FIFA put out a silly statement saying that it never said the airline couldn't use certain words or symbols -- but it Mar 23 20:51
schestowitzjust couldn't use them all in combination. "Mar 23 20:51
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: the EU turns down ACTA yet one major European organization supports everything it stands for, how quaintMar 23 20:55
Ziomatrixschestowitz: I guess some folks want their American Pie and eat it toMar 23 20:55
Ziomatrixnot to go totally OT but there are other ways the US Government has managed to undermine EU soveriegnty: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/spain-join-portugal-issuing-dollar-denominated-bondMar 23 20:57
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Spain To Join Portugal In Issuing Dollar-Denominated Bond | zero hedge .::. Size~: 58.84 KBMar 23 20:57
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schestowitzThis is one great GNU/Linux site: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-cool-hacks-more.htmlMar 23 21:07
phIRCe-BNcTitle:       Linux cool hacks - Part II     .::. Size~: 28.43 KBMar 23 21:07
schestowitzZiomatrix: Vivendi and othersMar 23 21:07
schestowitzDid you watch yesterday's session?Mar 23 21:07
schestowitzI posted the videos twice todayMar 23 21:07
schestowitzzoobab was among those in there, asking Luc questionsMar 23 21:08
schestowitzWhich Luc couldn't answer, just spin and fleeMar 23 21:08
schestowitz[20:57] <Ziomatrix> not to go totally OT but there are other ways the US Government has managed to undermine EU soveriegnty: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/spain-join-portugal-issuing-dollar-denominated-bondMar 23 21:09
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Spain To Join Portugal In Issuing Dollar-Denominated Bond | zero hedge .::. Size~: 58.84 KBMar 23 21:09
schestowitzFailing that, they can send the undertaker (aka "Goldman Sachs") to 'pull a Greece' :-DMar 23 21:09
schestowitzZiomatrix: did you hear about the collusion vs the Euro?Mar 23 21:09
schestowitzThere was an investigation over itMar 23 21:09
schestowitzUS tycoons trying to crash it, based on allegationsMar 23 21:10
schestowitzThis was in papers like NYT ot WSJMar 23 21:10
schestowitzGreve is MIA. http://identi.ca/greveMar 23 21:10
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Georg C. F. Greve (greve)  - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 63.4 KBMar 23 21:10
schestowitzwtf? http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2010/03/20/702-a-day-in-lifeMar 23 21:11
phIRCe-BNcTitle: A day in life - Diary of a CrazyFrench .::. Size~: 20.19 KBMar 23 21:11
schestowitzHmmm... trmanco stopped dentingMar 23 21:11
schestowitzNew Hub: http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2010/03/20/703-celebrating-springMar 23 21:12
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Celebrating Spring - Diary of a CrazyFrench .::. Size~: 20.3 KBMar 23 21:12
schestowitzhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-met-tire-burning-20100320,0,2538589.storyMar 23 21:14
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Renewable energy: Illinois moves to add tire burning to definition of renewable energy - chicagotribune.com .::. Size~: 126.93 KBMar 23 21:14
ZiomatrixlolMar 23 21:15
Ziomatrixoh the ironyMar 23 21:16
Ziomatrixstill this shows how terribly laws can be twisted with hidden provisionsMar 23 21:17
schestowitzPMar 23 21:17
schestowitzPRMar 23 21:17
schestowitzPropagandaMar 23 21:17
schestowitzI have some more example, I'll put them in the daily linksMar 23 21:17
Ziomatrixhowever hidden provisions can be sometimes good like how the new US Healthcare Bill sneaks in Student Loan reforms that put it back in the authority of a government agency which means no extra fees. Of course this is to spur more folks to actually invest in the US which many don't considering Treasury Bonds are close to junkMar 23 21:18
schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/business/101890/google-takes-chinaMar 23 21:19
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Google takes on China | ITworld .::. Size~: 78.01 KBMar 23 21:19
schestowitzZiomatrix: you're US-based, right?Mar 23 21:19
schestowitzDaemonFC would have a lot to say about these issuesMar 23 21:20
schestowitzI don't know some of the specificsMar 23 21:20
schestowitzI have enough problems keeping up with EU laws, which I find to be a lot less brokenMar 23 21:21
Ziomatrixschestowitz: yesMar 23 21:22
schestowitzhttp://blogs.vmware.com/console/2010/03/vmware-hires-key-developer-for-redis.htmlMar 23 21:23
phIRCe-BNcTitle: VMware: The Console: VMware hires key developer for Redis .::. Size~: 29.29 KBMar 23 21:23
schestowitzZiomatrix: at least it's not CambodiaMar 23 21:23
Ziomatrixschestowitz: if Google is kicked out of China, they'll be booted full stop. I don't think they'll even let Hong Kong residents have access. It will show a perfect reason for Taiwanese residents not to abdicateMar 23 21:24
schestowitzZiomatrix: I have a post about itMar 23 21:27
schestowitzA reader from China writes itMar 23 21:27
schestowitzThey want GoogleMar 23 21:27
schestowitzThe govt. doesn'tMar 23 21:27
schestowitzConflicting interests, obviouslyMar 23 21:27
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Ziomatrixschestowitz: if China blocked WoW and Google, there would be rioting in the streetsMar 23 21:29
MinceRand then there would be tanks in the streetsMar 23 21:29
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ZiomatrixMinceR: then China would be set back a few decadesMar 23 21:30
MinceRthen the blood would be mopped up and everything would go on as beforeMar 23 21:30
MinceRin what way?Mar 23 21:30
ZiomatrixMinceR: all the intelligencia would be killed and China would be like how Mao left itMar 23 21:30
MinceRi doubt that their government caredMar 23 21:30
ZiomatrixMinceR: at least the smog from the cities would clear up as people would bicycle a lot againMar 23 21:31
ZiomatrixMinceR: seriously though would any foriegn businesses in their right mind deal with a China in that condition?Mar 23 21:31
MinceRdoes any foreign business in their right mind deal with china?Mar 23 21:32
ZiomatrixMinceR: they have to in order to have production thereMar 23 21:32
MinceRat least in the way of supporting oppression thereMar 23 21:32
MinceR(censorship, etc.)Mar 23 21:32
MinceRnobody said they had to do production there, thoughMar 23 21:32
ZiomatrixMinceR: thats were China has managed to keep its economies and cities afloatMar 23 21:33
ZiomatrixMinceR: you think the PRC runs on US based swap derivatives?Mar 23 21:34
MinceRi'm not sure what that means, but i guess notMar 23 21:34
ZiomatrixMinceR: I'm just stating that China's economy is not fully self-sufficient as it is still largely an export based economyMar 23 21:38
MinceRyet the PRC's government does whatever it feels like against the people thereMar 23 21:39
ZiomatrixMinceR: maybe some day a large enough middle class will arrise to buy all the goods that are sufficiently produced. However, what kept the PRC from annoucning a recession was how they pulled a mega New Deal and are sponsor new infastructure like crazyMar 23 21:39
ZiomatrixMinceR: they do so so long as it doesn't effect business abroad, notice how they're very tight lipped about what goes on in the western halfMar 23 21:40
*schestowitz will listen to http://tankriot.com/2010/089/ laterMar 23 21:41
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] On to Legion Of The Damned's 'Cult Of The Dead'.Mar 23 21:41
schestowitz[21:29] <MinceR> and then there would be tanks in the streetsMar 23 21:41
schestowitzWoW?Mar 23 21:41
schestowitzTank >> swordMar 23 21:41
Aondohmm where are those ogg videos on the acta  negotiations? i see only 11 from youtube  thereMar 23 21:42
MinceRnopeMar 23 21:42
Aondohurts my cpu :PMar 23 21:42
MinceRschestowitz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tianasquare.jpgMar 23 21:42
phIRCe-BNcTitle: File:Tianasquare.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 39.31 KBMar 23 21:42
schestowitzAondo: scroll downMar 23 21:42
schestowitzIt's embedded ogg in <video>Mar 23 21:42
schestowitzOtherwise it shows up as an icon for d/lMar 23 21:42
schestowitzMinceR: I knowMar 23 21:43
Aondoschestowitz  i've seen you done this before, but not in that page i cant see it :PMar 23 21:43
schestowitzMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkzSs88iuEUMar 23 21:43
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- George Galloway Denies the Tiananmen Square Massacre (part 1) .::. Size~: 90.5 KBMar 23 21:43
schestowitzThat's why we need this info publicMar 23 21:44
MinceRwho's george galloway?Mar 23 21:44
schestowitzNo censorshipMar 23 21:44
schestowitzHe didn't lie/deceive deliberatelyMar 23 21:44
Aondoschestowitz  ah it doesn't show when i press the link, only under the main thing :D and i used a link from another article Mar 23 21:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Britain expels Israeli diplomat, Knesset member calls for retaliation. http://is.gd/aUONn #Palestine #occupationMar 23 21:47
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TheMadHatterRoy, you there?Mar 23 22:02
TheMadHatterK, thought it was probably past bed time, check out this article about how firms hide their true financial condition, and think about how it might impact RedmondMar 23 22:03
TheMadHatterhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/eliot-spitzer/lehman-scandal-wheres-the_b_509843.htmlMar 23 22:03
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Eliot Spitzer: Lehman Scandal: Where's the Follow Up? .::. Size~: 142.35 KBMar 23 22:03
TheMadHatterConsider why a company that claims to be cash rich is taking out loans. Then add in the ways we have seen that companies can lie to investors.Mar 23 22:05
TheMadHatter2+2 doesn't always equal 4, when it's actually 2+2+10 with the 10 hidden.Mar 23 22:05
TheMadHatterHave a good evening.Mar 23 22:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Writing up my Ada Lovelace Day blog entry for tomorrow - so you should you good folks - http://findingada.com/ #ald10Mar 23 22:09
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schestowitzhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20000961-264.htmlMar 23 22:11
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schestowitzAondo: how come?Mar 23 22:11
schestowitzI tested to see that it worksMar 23 22:11
WireWulfweeMar 23 22:11
Aondoschestowitz  http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/23/acta-brussels/ this link does not include it, as i can see. the link is the headline under ?stories it says (update: ogg added) Mar 23 22:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] On the way home by train currently passing through st albansMar 23 22:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] OH: "They're all sort of fatty-boom-bahs." (grown man in sober man-to-man conversation in a café)Mar 23 22:33
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/open-source-gets-political/Mar 23 22:35
phIRCe-BNcTitle: Open Source Gets Political | Linux User .::. Size~: 29.05 KBMar 23 22:35
schestowitzAondo: oh...Mar 23 22:35
schestowitztessier: did you enable cache?Mar 23 22:35
schestowitzIt seems like he didMar 23 22:36
schestowitzThe load is magically a lot lowerMar 23 22:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Using Clonezilla to back up the Aleutia T1 I'm reviewing. Love clonezilla.Mar 23 22:36
schestowitzAondo: try the same URL, append  "?blah" to itMar 23 22:36
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Aondoschestowitz, right hehe Mar 23 22:40
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] reading "The busy coder's guide to android development"... half-way through now!Mar 23 22:42
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schestowitzAondo: he only re-enabled it an hour or so agoMar 23 22:47
schestowitzI thinkMar 23 22:47
schestowitzDNS confuses.....Mar 23 22:47
schestowitzOur kind admin had a hardware failure (disk)Mar 23 22:47
Aondoknow how that is likeMar 23 22:48
schestowitzI remember when Groklaw had a hardware crash in 2008Mar 23 22:49
Aondocouldnt watch those youtube vids, becaus each time i started a new one, the more cpu it would require to drive the videos i wasn't watching, so the fps on the video it self dropped like crazyMar 23 22:49
Aondoflash is so bad :P and having 11 on one page didnt help heheMar 23 22:49
schestowitzI knowMar 23 22:50
schestowitzI didn't know whether to just link to part except 1, BUT...Mar 23 22:51
schestowitzSee part 1Mar 23 22:51
schestowitzIt's all ACTA propagandaMar 23 22:51
schestowitzI couldn't let it just beMar 23 22:51
Aondoyea i saw it all, just finishedMar 23 22:51
schestowitzIn part 5 you see zoobabMar 23 22:51
schestowitzzoobab asks him about patentsMar 23 22:51
Aondoseems like there are some kind of seeds in the audience there to ease the situation and give compliments Mar 23 22:51
schestowitzThis is the lackey: http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/16/european-commission-vs-zrand/Mar 23 22:52
phIRCe-BNcTitle: ACTA Booster Luc Pierre Devigne Redefines Open Standards (With Software Patents Included) | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 103.04 KBMar 23 22:52
schestowitzAondo: yes, not even questionsMar 23 22:53
schestowitzVivendi shills for exampleMar 23 22:53
schestowitzWhich is funny, coz...Mar 23 22:53
schestowitzThey are ALREADY in the negotiationsMar 23 22:53
schestowitzThis event was about transparencyMar 23 22:53
schestowitzThey are just what's known as "seat warmers"Mar 23 22:53
schestowitzLobbying techniqueMar 23 22:54
schestowitzThey take up seats in the proceedings, like ballot stuffers but ones that just take up time and space instead of voteMar 23 22:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hmm !ubuntu lucid has Yahoo as the default search, yet if I type in the address bar I get google search results...Mar 23 23:02
schestowitzGoogle's Android really monopolises Linux on phonesMar 23 23:03
schestowitzThis is a risk to LinuxMar 23 23:03
schestowitzAs in the LFMar 23 23:03
schestowitzGoogle could decide to compete rather than merge with Linux if Android gains a lot of ground in TV, phones, sub-notebooks.Mar 23 23:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wahay! 30 seconds of using gwibber and it crashes already. Rock on social from the start!Mar 23 23:06
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Massive restraint required to resist registering isgwibberstableyet.comMar 23 23:13
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] It never ceases to amaze me how incredibly bizarre the drumming is on every Meshuggah record. Bonkers 2.0 is in my house today.Mar 23 23:17
schestowitzgoblinphn: got my msgs?Mar 23 23:17
*goblinphn is now known as _goblinMar 23 23:17
schestowitzNew build of Wolvix available today tooMar 23 23:21
_goblinschestowitz: yeah thanks!Mar 23 23:21
schestowitzand I dented you e crunchbangMar 23 23:23
_goblinand I'm unable to try it..... we are staying with my parents while builders are at home Mar 23 23:23
schestowitzCause I know you use thoseMar 23 23:23
_goblincbl Is somthing i am looking forward toMar 23 23:24
_goblinI am so impressed with my HTCMar 23 23:26
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Golly, crashes in gwibber, ubuntu one and desktopcouch this evening. Filing bugs then bed. It'll all be better in the morning I'm sure :)Mar 23 23:27
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Using DaraIRC on my HTC...very impressive...am now mobile irc!!Mar 23 23:31
_goblin...Mar 23 23:32
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DaemonFCheh, I got my 5670 installedMar 23 23:48
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DaemonFCWindows rated the 4670 a 6.8Mar 23 23:49
MinceRi 34873 the 3947 a 23.5Mar 23 23:49
MinceR:>Mar 23 23:49
DaemonFCThe doctor gave me my antibiotics and wondered aloud why I didn't go to the emergency roomMar 23 23:50
DaemonFClike "It wouldn't be a problem for me, why couldn't you just.......oh....right"Mar 23 23:50
DaemonFCso after that, I had to walk about 2 miles to the pharmacy, with bronchitisMar 23 23:51
DaemonFCto get the prescription filledMar 23 23:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] what's up with the pirateparty of norway? the website seems... wrong..Mar 23 23:53
oiaohmIs it just me or people pushing for people to stop using adblock fail the basic rules of business.  Ie don't depend on a single solution.Mar 23 23:55
DaemonFCoiaohm: The rule of business anymore is bitch and hope someone gives a flying fuck I guessMar 23 23:57
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwywMP4SxgoMar 23 23:58
phIRCe-BNcTitle: YouTube- Creationist Junk Debunked #1 - Introduction .::. Size~: 74.3 KBMar 23 23:58
schestowitzgoblin: on mobile?Mar 23 23:58
schestowitzDaemonFC: don't use this language, plsMar 23 23:59
MinceRthey could stop wasting client resources left and right and embed (not iframe!) textual ads into pagesMar 23 23:59

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