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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hi !identiverse just like planned I did some stuff for a bit after I seemed to have said that I was going before, but was done denting yes. | Dec 31 00:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] !identiverse a group where funny dents, but also dents that don't have much of a purpose can be sent, such as the one I just did! | Dec 31 00:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @geekbrit I just remembered the Library of Congress is archiving all tweets for posterity. #StageFright < !privacy #bigbrotheriswatching | Dec 31 00:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Seif Lotfy: Activity Journal getting a new View http://goo.gl/lf6KM | Dec 31 00:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm (w/o having read context) why? is @jargon trying to push #emacs on everyone? ;D | Dec 31 00:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Will have to check it out: TigerDirect.ca has a no-OS option (via @@geekbrit) | Dec 31 00:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard i'd have to know what #emacs was to answer that... | Dec 31 00:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] Hello !identiverse people and anyone else reading this, its the last day of 2010 here as of not that long ago. | Dec 31 00:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard He was grumping about Sheldon ( #BigBangTheory ) liking Ubuntu and segued into ruling the world | Dec 31 00:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm It is a church :) | Dec 31 00:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm See Saint Ignutius. | Dec 31 00:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm one of the two best text-editors on the planet (the other being #vim) over which many a flamewar has been fought ;D | Dec 31 00:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm #Ubuntu is nice :) without it I wouldn't have gotten into GNU/Linux (and now #ArchLinux) | Dec 31 00:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera @jargon @wildcard There does seem to be a rather religious ahem slant to software loyalty. | Dec 31 00:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb It must be tomorrow there already. It's only December 30th over here. | Dec 31 00:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] New blog post: Thanks to You, Dan Will Be at FOSDEM 2011! http://ur1.ca/2pm3u | Dec 31 00:22 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Thanks to You, Dan Will Be at FOSDEM 2011! | Sixgun Productions .::. Size~: 13.61 KB | Dec 31 00:22 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Yep the 31st as of about half an hour ago now. | Dec 31 00:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] #Hogmanay: "lasts through night 'til the morning of New Year's Day (1 January) or, in some cases, 2 January/Scottish Bank Holiday"~Wikipedia | Dec 31 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Some day I'll get to Scotland :D | Dec 31 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Oh noes! Water in my room! #fail | Dec 31 00:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @n8 chicken-based steadicam: #thenextbigthing ? http://ur1.ca/2pm6f <<AWSOME serious LAUGHter... even out takes at the end! | Dec 31 00:50 | |
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| AdmFubar_ | :) hi all | Dec 31 00:51 |
| AdmFubar_ | hey think we can commandeer the Intellectual Property phrase and start referring to it as Intellectual Piracy? :D (the legalized theft of ideas) , just a thought. | Dec 31 00:53 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @sebsebseb Happy #Hogmanay to you too. | Dec 31 00:54 | |
| AdmFubar_ | laters all | Dec 31 00:54 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sebsebseb/@sebsebseb] @laurelrusswurm Or not since I live in #England not Scotland, and I Googled to find out what #Hogmanay is, and it's @kevie 's fault! :) | Dec 31 01:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] #VoIP decision means #Skype now illegal http://ur1.ca/2pmee < isn't this against trade regulations? #WTO | Dec 31 01:12 | |
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| want2bfree | yo peoples | Dec 31 01:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Beware of this Android trojan - http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Android-trojan-collects-personal-data-1162008.html #fb | Dec 31 01:24 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] On the positive side, Super Bock Abadia! #needbeer almost satisfied (wishing I had a couple more of this) | Dec 31 01:30 | |
| MinceR | gn | Dec 31 01:41 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @bkuhn to be honest, I am not sure whether I want the #TSA to touch my balls again. I mean, what if they hire a Narwhal to screen me? | Dec 31 01:47 | |
| DaemonFC | a naddy narwhal? :) | Dec 31 01:52 |
| DaemonFC | reminds me of that Australian woman on those infomercials advertising that hair removal wax, Nads | Dec 31 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | Call now to get your free bottle of Nads! | Dec 31 01:53 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 01:54 |
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| DaemonFC | What's the most cost-effective way of getting rid of dust? | Dec 31 02:03 |
| DaemonFC | preferably one that doesn't involve a $300 gadget or replacing a filter every week :) | Dec 31 02:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rbonifaz/@rbonifaz] ♺ @rms: Brazilian president defends Wikileaks http://ur1.ca/2pm50 !wikileaks | Dec 31 02:07 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/48b1062344/harry-potter-and-the-x-rated-trailer | Dec 31 02:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] !KDE 's #KOffice 2.3.0 released! Nice! http://www.calligra-suite.org/news/koffice-2-3-0-released/ #calligrasuite | Dec 31 02:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | yes, I was playing with 2.3 beta, it has good ooxml import filters | Dec 31 02:44 |
| DaemonFC | I do need to open, edit, and print them, not worried about making more | Dec 31 02:44 |
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| DaemonFC | Novell's export filter was horrid anyway :) | Dec 31 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | I'm surprised they made a demo of OOo Novell Edition with the claim of MS Office interoperability | Dec 31 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | passing a document from one to the other would always break it in some way | Dec 31 02:46 |
| DaemonFC | what was the demo for? to show potential customers not to bother? | Dec 31 02:46 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Low tonight: 27°F | Dec 31 03:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[phoronix/@phoronix] KOffice 2.3.0 Office Suite Released: While there is now the Calligra Suite following an internal KOffice fork by... http://bit.ly/hthzrZ | Dec 31 03:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jrepin/@jrepin] !KDE's !KOffice 2.3.0 Released → is.gd/jOpeC | is.gd/jOpim — #office !linux !opensource !fs !odf | Dec 31 04:14 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @wildcard Don't let him tell you. #emacs and #vim have been the cause of more bloodshed then religion :) | Dec 31 04:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 If A includes B, and B includes C, then A includes C. | Dec 31 04:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @therealjanisian: Quote of the day: "Don't believe everything you think." | Dec 31 04:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Trying my hand at "Highway to Hell" tonite. Insert Twitter witticism here:_____________. | Dec 31 04:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: Added comments to http://ur1.ca/2pmyu : #Copyright Petition from @carolelavallee targets wrong policy #C32com | Dec 31 04:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Oh how I wish I was in grad school (& US citizen) so that I can apply to NASA! http://ur1.ca/2png6 #fb | Dec 31 04:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @themadhatter #Amen ;D | Dec 31 04:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter @wildcard This makes no sense. It's like fighting about a screw driver. My screw driver is better than your screw driver? | Dec 31 04:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard @themadhatter There's been many a time I've used a coin to turn a screw. I believe in using what works. | Dec 31 04:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm @wildcard So do I, but the #emacs / #vi wars go on and on and on... | Dec 31 04:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @themadhatter yah. I wonder how many actually tried both before deciding? I started out emacs, but then tried vim and decided to go that way | Dec 31 04:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mozilla/@mozilla] Flume, Hive and realtime indexing via ElasticSearch http://bit.ly/i7EpGV | Dec 31 04:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Many people are going to be afraid to try the other if everybody is going to jump on their heads if they switch. | Dec 31 04:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Sorry, I don't like that idea of a disclosure law for bloggers. Even though there are some who will hide their agenda.... | Dec 31 04:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter ... and thus mislead, people need the freedom to remain anonymous to be able to blow the whistle on bad things. !wikiLeaks | Dec 31 04:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm yeah, most will only grab the editor (out of the two) a majority of their friends happen to prefer | Dec 31 04:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm It's not the anonymous ones I'm worried about, it's the ones that try to use their name to convince. | Dec 31 04:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm What it comes down to, is if you are being paid, you need to declare it. Or if your company is being paid. | Dec 31 04:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm My complaint with Barry Sookman, is that he is being paid for work, but he doesn't disclose. | Dec 31 04:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Still reading Griftopia. Fascinating book. Next book will be Mercedes Lackey's Intrigues | Dec 31 05:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter So you out him. The same deal with all the "Access Copyright" member groups forming up as if tehy were different. | Dec 31 05:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm sonic screwdriver? The Doctor has one. | Dec 31 05:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm I shouldn't need to out him. Disclosure should be the law. | Dec 31 05:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm I knew all along what he was. I was trying to corner him, to make him admit it. Russell's actually the one that outed him. | Dec 31 05:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter For lobbying perhaps, but then, I think that paid lobbyists ought to be illegal too. | Dec 31 05:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Doctor Who is an acquired taste. The older Doctor Who hasn't held up well. New Who is pretty good. | Dec 31 05:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter And while I'm redesigning the world, lets get rid of campaign advertising too. | Dec 31 05:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter Last time I tried Dr. Who was in the 70's, so I didn't know there was a new who. | Dec 31 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | [00:53] <AdmFubar_> hey think we can commandeer the Intellectual Property phrase and start referring to it as Intellectual Piracy? :D (the legalized theft of ideas) , just a thought. | Dec 31 05:10 |
| schestowitz | Fighting fire with fire | Dec 31 05:10 |
| schestowitz | And people might not get it at first | Dec 31 05:10 |
| schestowitz | first | Dec 31 05:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard That can be good 'cos your friends can help with problems; it's accepting one 'cause friends pressure you i've a problem with. | Dec 31 05:12 | |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/browren/status/20640307733336064 | Dec 31 05:12 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm could we get rid of that annoying habit of advertisers to up the volume during breaks in the regular programming? | Dec 31 05:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Oh that's a good one. I'll vote for it! | Dec 31 05:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter You'd like this then: http://mimiandeunice.com/2010/09/28/balance/ | Dec 31 05:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm I agree wholeheartedly | Dec 31 05:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter @psquid I printed this out for a #Who friend: http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/dalek-victory.jpg | Dec 31 05:25 | |
| DaemonFC | I just tried to print preview something in KWord 2.3 and got a krash :/ | Dec 31 05:44 |
| *DaemonFC gives schestowitz the gift of Oracle Cloud Office | Dec 31 05:45 | |
| DaemonFC | :D | Dec 31 05:45 |
| schestowitz | http://www.globenewswire.com/newsroom/news.html?d=209619 | Dec 31 05:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Was there a world-wide font shortage? | Dec 31 05:49 |
| DaemonFC | an Arab Font Embargo? | Dec 31 05:49 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Application Development: Java, C, C++: Top Programming Languages for 2011 http://is.gd/jOERO | Dec 31 05:50 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: both. | Dec 31 05:55 |
| schestowitz | This one is branded "Ubuntu" | Dec 31 05:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @laurelrusswurm But doesn't mean I'd invite'em in for a drink ... you might like this song "Killer Robots From Venus" http://ur1.ca/2pnzi | Dec 31 05:57 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.robweir.com/blog/2010/12/1960_stamps.html | Dec 31 05:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12059577 | Dec 31 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | they like to reinvent things that already existed and worked fine | Dec 31 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | is that just me? | Dec 31 06:00 |
| DaemonFC | they're only glossing over some superficial problems while leaving things like "cups-filter-not-found" as helpful error messages | Dec 31 06:01 |
| DaemonFC | finally after 3 hours of throwing spaghetti as the ceiling, I stumbled onto a working printer | Dec 31 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | but thank god for the Ubuntu Font Family :) | Dec 31 06:02 |
| DaemonFC | *at | Dec 31 06:02 |
| schestowitz | http://www.stefanoforenza.com/where-is-the-insert-key-on-a-mac-keyboard/ | Dec 31 06:03 |
| schestowitz | Hm... he blogs Macs now? | Dec 31 06:03 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is one happy font family | Dec 31 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | they should make the balloon notices use it | Dec 31 06:04 |
| DaemonFC | that way cups-filter-not-found is extra legible | Dec 31 06:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm Yep, New Who is pretty decent. Doctor has regenerated twice so far. | Dec 31 06:05 | |
| DaemonFC | between the cups web interface, the hp toolkit, and the KDE Printer applet, there's three ways to set up your printer, all of them have options the others don't, and one might work when the others don't | Dec 31 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | that's the kind of problem that needs tacking, not making the notification tray look more like OS X | Dec 31 06:07 |
| DaemonFC | *tackling | Dec 31 06:07 |
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| DaemonFC | oh and forgive me for not mentioning bringing up a terminal to run hp-plugin -i to get the ppd file installed after having to get about 100 development packages to create a build environment suitable for compiling hplip 3.10.9 from source | Dec 31 06:08 |
| DaemonFC | that's got to be the most agonizing process of setting up hardware I've ever encountered | Dec 31 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | but it's over :) | Dec 31 06:09 |
| DaemonFC | I almost wonder why distros don't bother updating driver packages | Dec 31 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | would it kill them to build new versions of hplip? | Dec 31 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | but we have Ubuntu Fonts... | Dec 31 06:11 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] New Groklaw article - OSI Asks German FCO to Look Into the Proposed Patent Deal & You Can Too: http://bit.ly/fTE06N | Dec 31 06:17 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, He bought a Mac, it's no secret that Apple likes to make arbitrary backward design choices, then he complains about the keyboard not being right :) | Dec 31 06:18 |
| DaemonFC | next he'll say that's the way it should work and only Apple had the design prowess to see it | Dec 31 06:18 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Not so sure what to make of things right now | Dec 31 06:19 | |
| gnufreex | http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-12/29/c_13669518.htm | Dec 31 06:21 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @Freelancer4Hire ♺ @BraveKidsVoices Why do we have a global bullying crisis? Because we have a global child abuse crisis. | Dec 31 06:24 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000004296 | Dec 31 06:25 |
| schestowitz | "The most bizarre is that a French company, Archos, would be hurt to the benefit of an American company. " | Dec 31 06:25 |
| gnufreex | wot | Dec 31 06:25 |
| gnufreex | !!11 | Dec 31 06:25 |
| gnufreex | not windows... pirated | Dec 31 06:26 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter "New who" sounds like an escapee from that other doctor... Dr. Seuss ("all the whos down in whoville...") | Dec 31 06:27 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I need to get to sleep myself... Happy #Hogmanay and sweet dreams !Identiverse | Dec 31 06:30 | |
| schestowitz | http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/12/22/apple-re-kills-steve-jobs-doll/?source=yahoo_quote | Dec 31 06:34 |
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| schestowitz | Apple thinks it owns Steve | Dec 31 06:34 |
| schestowitz | He is all "IP" | Dec 31 06:34 |
| gnufreex | IP freely | Dec 31 06:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I have nothing to share for day 48 besides some macro practice with LEGO ... maybe I'll post them, but I"m (relatively) warm in bed atm. | Dec 31 06:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 36°F at Deer Valley AP, and I'm considering a walk? madness, maybe I'll just stay here. | Dec 31 06:47 | |
| amarsh04 | 31 C here | Dec 31 06:50 |
| amarsh04 | better than the 43 C originally forecast | Dec 31 06:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gnufreex/@gnufreex] France taxes non-Windows everything! #monopoly #microsoft !gnu !gnulinux !fs http://ur1.ca/2pm59 | Dec 31 06:52 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: France to bring in non-Windows tablet tax - Defence of Microsoft | TechEye .::. Size~: 32.2 KB | Dec 31 06:52 |
| amarsh04 | schestowitz, have you come across any packages that can take a spreadsheet and make it easy to swap rows and columns around? I have been playing in gnumeric with some movies listed in the columns, and cast and crew members in rows, with the role description in each cell, and would like to play around with seeing which personnel have had the most involvement with groups of movies | Dec 31 06:53 |
| amarsh04 | basically swapping rows and columns around like one might do on a matrix, except there is text data in the elements | Dec 31 06:54 |
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| amarsh04 | if one puts the data into several database tables, interpreting the data becomes more tedious | Dec 31 06:55 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: I hardly use spreadsheets | Dec 31 06:55 |
| schestowitz | What is it for? | Dec 31 06:55 |
| amarsh04 | neither do I schestowitz | Dec 31 06:55 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: for simple data you could use octave | Dec 31 06:55 |
| schestowitz | With .ods loaders | Dec 31 06:55 |
| amarsh04 | just personal interest | Dec 31 06:55 |
| schestowitz | than data=date'; | Dec 31 06:55 |
| schestowitz | *a | Dec 31 06:55 |
| amarsh04 | I actually had to install gnumeric on the other machine to try it out | Dec 31 06:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9A0OY13vkI | Dec 31 06:58 |
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| DaemonFC | Gnumeric is alright | Dec 31 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | I wish I could get by on ABIWord | Dec 31 07:07 |
| DaemonFC | OOo is gigantic | Dec 31 07:07 |
| gnufreex | I think Gnumeric is infected with DeIcaziness... ABIword is ok. | Dec 31 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | Gnumeric can import xls and xlsx without any weirdness | Dec 31 07:08 |
| gnufreex | That's what I said. | Dec 31 07:09 |
| amarsh04 | btw, schestowitz, do you have that free pdf readers link? I should write to the gov.au webmasters and suggest it rather than the acrobat links | Dec 31 07:09 |
| gnufreex | Infected with Microsoftness and DeIcaziness. | Dec 31 07:09 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Dec 31 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | ABIword can fail to import ODF correctly | Dec 31 07:09 |
| DaemonFC | it does alright with its own file formats and old MS Office | Dec 31 07:10 |
| gnufreex | Who cares. I use Emacs and nano. And Gedit. | Dec 31 07:10 |
| DaemonFC | the biggest problem with ODF is that it's too tied to OOo | Dec 31 07:11 |
| DaemonFC | almost every other office suite complains that it's difficult to implement because of that | Dec 31 07:11 |
| *amarsh04 wonders if is possible to configure a kernel/initrd and emacs to have a kernel with init=emacs working (-: | Dec 31 07:11 | |
| gnufreex | Sun took a page from Microsoft's book, maybe. | Dec 31 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | Koffice was the best ODF support outside of OOo last time I looked | Dec 31 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | it supported like 88% of it | Dec 31 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | Abiword was like 60% or something | Dec 31 07:12 |
| DaemonFC | that's the problem with office formats, they're designed around one particular suite's internal layout and nothing else can get it quite right | Dec 31 07:13 |
| gnufreex | I think not. I think it is Microsoft problem. | Dec 31 07:14 |
| gnufreex | And OOO is clone of MSO | Dec 31 07:14 |
| gnufreex | so it cloned problem | Dec 31 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | no, they're just the two biggest examples | Dec 31 07:14 |
| gnufreex | Is there more examples? | Dec 31 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | if you look at Softmaker and old Staroffice formats, you see they're no different | Dec 31 07:14 |
| DaemonFC | nobody else has bothered to implement them and that's the only reason you don't hear complaints | Dec 31 07:15 |
| gnufreex | I know that OOO can get docx virus because cloned MSO too good. | Dec 31 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | same with wordperfect | Dec 31 07:15 |
| gnufreex | Softmaker is based on OOO | Dec 31 07:15 |
| gnufreex | Same with StarOffice | Dec 31 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | no, it's not | Dec 31 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | OOo is based on StarOffice | Dec 31 07:15 |
| gnufreex | Same | Dec 31 07:15 |
| DaemonFC | and Softmaker has been around even longer than Star | Dec 31 07:16 |
| gnufreex | New versions of Softmaker are based on OOO | Dec 31 07:16 |
| gnufreex | Sun sold them a license to code. | Dec 31 07:16 |
| gnufreex | Same with IBM lotus | Dec 31 07:16 |
| DaemonFC | there's been some major work done on the import filters then | Dec 31 07:16 |
| gnufreex | Probably | Dec 31 07:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | [02:08:36] <gnufreex> Infected with Microsoftness and DeIcaziness. | Dec 31 07:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats called "the clap" | Dec 31 07:17 |
| DaemonFC | I've bought StarOffice before | Dec 31 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | but that was berfore OOo | Dec 31 07:18 |
| gnufreex | I think they cloned MS from start. | Dec 31 07:18 |
| gnufreex | But not sure | Dec 31 07:18 |
| DaemonFC | I needed a decent word proessor for school and it was $20 for that or hundreds for MS | Dec 31 07:18 |
| gnufreex | That was probably the reason why Sun picked them. | Dec 31 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | guess what my allowance money went for :) | Dec 31 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | *processor | Dec 31 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | it had MS file format support, so yeah, easy transition | Dec 31 07:19 |
| DaemonFC | it was cheaper to by the company that made Star than to try to purchase MS Office licenses by seat | Dec 31 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | bonus: All the existing files still work | Dec 31 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | *buy | Dec 31 07:20 |
| DaemonFC | Sun was only moderately less hostile to FOSS than Oracle is | Dec 31 07:21 |
| DaemonFC | they went more like Netscape in slow motion | Dec 31 07:21 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. People don't beleive me when I say that. | Dec 31 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | they were going broke and saw open source as bringing in free labot | Dec 31 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | p*labor | Dec 31 07:22 |
| gnufreex | About Sun-Oracle | Dec 31 07:22 |
| schestowitz | [07:09] <amarsh04> btw, schestowitz, do you have that free pdf readers link? I should write to the gov.au webmasters and suggest it rather than the acrobat links | Dec 31 07:22 |
| schestowitz | FSFE has a campign page with buttons and instructions | Dec 31 07:22 |
| DaemonFC | I don't remember the last time I had Adobe Reader on a machine I owned, willingly | Dec 31 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | there was the time Adobe trojaned it in with Flash when I added their Yum repo to Fedora | Dec 31 07:23 |
| DaemonFC | but it was only there long enough to get removed | Dec 31 07:23 |
| amarsh04 | thanks schestowitz, just found: http://onlysoftwareblog.com/2010/09/free-software-advocates-campaign-against-links-to-adobes-pdf-reader/ | Dec 31 07:23 |
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| amarsh04 | I had to use the word "campaign" to find a useful link | Dec 31 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | I hope Oracle does shut down OOo | Dec 31 07:24 |
| DaemonFC | there will be less of a schism with only LibreOffice running | Dec 31 07:25 |
| DaemonFC | the last thing I want to end up with is both of them installed because they both have mutually exclusive features | Dec 31 07:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] And soon we will see similar laws in other countries too. http://ur1.ca/2pmee China makes VoIP illegal. | Dec 31 07:27 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/22-ways-to-convert-your-friend-to-linux-914717#ixzz199aISqmO | Dec 31 07:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:stallman.org | Dec 31 07:46 |
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| schestowitz | His site is underrated | Dec 31 07:46 |
| schestowitz | Who is RMS hanging out with? *LOL* http://stallman.org/photos/bolivia/la-paz/jan-2005/index.html | Dec 31 07:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Oh, god, here come the "happy gnu years"... Kill me. | Dec 31 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | http://stallman.org/photos/ | Dec 31 07:47 |
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| schestowitz | I didn't know he does photography | Dec 31 07:47 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: : RMS in Aussie http://stallman.org/photos/australia/canberra/index.html | Dec 31 07:48 |
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| schestowitz | http://stallman.org/photos/australia/melbourne/index.html httphttp://stallman.org/photos/australia/melbourne/pages/11.html://stallman.org/photos/australia/melbourne/pages/11.html | Dec 31 07:48 |
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| schestowitz | What's with all the parrots? | Dec 31 07:48 |
| schestowitz | http://stallman.org/photos/australia/sydney/index.html http://stallman.org/photos/australia/sydney/cockatiels/index.html | Dec 31 07:48 |
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| schestowitz | and a flute.. http://stallman.org/photos/australia/sydney-cockatiels/index.html http://stallman.org/photos/australia/sydney-harbor/index.html | Dec 31 07:49 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @laurelrusswurm The whole St. Ignucius of the church of emacs was just @rms having a bit of a laugh. | Dec 31 07:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @jwildeboer And soon we will see similar laws in other countries too. http://ur1.ca/2pmee China makes VoIP illegal. | Dec 31 07:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @slubman !android tablets GPL compliance: http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/android_tablets/ | Dec 31 07:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Happy last day of the year to all. !techrights has many good posts planned for next week. | Dec 31 07:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Not taking a break ? Holiday season... | Dec 31 07:57 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I just said I did. | Dec 31 07:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] When corporations speak about "freedom" they mean "freedom from regulation" (free market anarchy), which is why @rms ' message scares them | Dec 31 08:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] ★ The Typhoid Mary of Three Strikes: Just before Christmas we saw the Spanish Parliament reject yet another atte... http://wmk.me/hZjp5M | Dec 31 08:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Cameron says that some people in Britain have been living beyond the means of the peasants who support them. :) | Dec 31 08:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @macno !mustard reached 7000 installations in !android market!! | Dec 31 08:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Guess I missed. Chokoq is only getting the last 20 dents... | Dec 31 08:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh you could also get a nexus S for that much ;) !android | Dec 31 08:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Btw, how is Iomega track record with GPL ? We've just received an Iomega storage server built with Samba & Linux | Dec 31 08:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Bacon butties for breakfast :-) | Dec 31 08:14 | |
| *DaemonFC just got Seamonkey to build on Haiku | Dec 31 08:14 | |
| DaemonFC | sweeeet | Dec 31 08:14 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Oh, I can't even think about it. Cholesterol, early in the morning... I pity you, my friend. | Dec 31 08:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] As I glance@various Free/open src Web sites I find that they consistently decline in readership.Given FOSS popularisation,any explanation? | Dec 31 08:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Hrmpf. Every Aspect related page on #diaspora gives an error 500. I hope this gets fixed asap! http://ur1.ca/2pote | Dec 31 08:15 | |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61331947 | Dec 31 08:16 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 31-Dec-10 08:02:05 UTC - Identi.ca: It is quite saddening to see how corporations that exploit !GNU have groomed Linux instead,leaving Stallman in the dark http://stallman.org/ | Dec 31 08:16 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith I do not do it very often but when I do they are tasty! | Dec 31 08:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith I think it's EMC now. They 'hide' the Linux in their products. | Dec 31 08:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] Petition to stop Western Union abusing monopoly by charging outrageous fees on poorest countries' transferees http://ur1.ca/2poth | Dec 31 08:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera Take care of your heart ;-) | Dec 31 08:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz EMC ? The gang behind Attachmate ? | Dec 31 08:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @agentsmith It is the only muscle I have left that works. | Dec 31 08:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "coopetition" is a nice-sounding euphemism for cartel. | Dec 31 08:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @satipera :-D | Dec 31 08:24 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/change-in-commenting-system/blog/31983?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GreenpeaceNews+%28Greenpeace+News%29 | Dec 31 08:25 |
| schestowitz | "We reserve the right to switch back to a registered-users-only system if we get too much spam or troll commenters, but I really hope we won't need to." | Dec 31 08:25 |
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| schestowitz | That's the nice thing about it | Dec 31 08:25 |
| schestowitz | In techrights we no longer get troll comments | Dec 31 08:25 |
| schestowitz | Because trolls are too lazy to create an account with real E-mail address | Dec 31 08:26 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Citing Jesus Christ: What a den of thieves this place has become | Dec 31 08:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @satipera one of the few involuntarily-working ones, too | Dec 31 08:27 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/20756262828380162 | Dec 31 08:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz I think people love the idea of #FOSS but hate the religion. Too many devs have become preachers and their projects churches. | Dec 31 08:28 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie It started with the philosophy and doctrine of programs that respect their users. It's about freedom, opposite of religions. | Dec 31 08:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] @schestowitz In my case that is a very fortunate state of affairs. | Dec 31 08:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Despite setbacks,some thing things *are* improving http://is.gd/jP2BD Japan finally starts taking action against its corrupt whaling indus' | Dec 31 08:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Whaling on trial: Vindication! | Greenpeace International .::. Size~: 85.83 KB | Dec 31 08:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/nuclear-reaction/nuclear-news-israel-shoots-down-ufo-over-nucl/blog/31596?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GreenpeaceNews+%28Greenpeace+News%29 "The IDF has speculated that the UFO "could have been a party balloon." LOL | Dec 31 08:33 |
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| schestowitz | Pigeon chasers and balloon busters.. | Dec 31 08:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] ITA wi-fi. It's how I anticipated. Police registration requirement ends today. ID collection deferred to a GVMT project law. | Dec 31 08:34 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/makingwaves/american-judges-european-citizens-and-the-vat/blog/29302 | Dec 31 08:40 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: American judges, European citizens – and the Vatican: It's NO to GE! | Greenpeace International .::. Size~: 102.7 KB | Dec 31 08:40 |
| schestowitz | Incorrect assertion that he did this | Dec 31 08:40 |
| schestowitz | In here: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/wikileaks-how-our-government-it-failed-us/14988 | Dec 31 08:40 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] Found an old article in Time's free (non paywalled) archives. Nice. ur1.ca/2pozd about the old Communication Decency Act | Dec 31 08:44 | |
| schestowitz | http://bit.ly/htASKB | Dec 31 08:44 |
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| DaemonFC | Seamonkey still urges all Netscape 6/7 and Mozilla Suite users to update :/ | Dec 31 08:45 |
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| *DaemonFC uninstalls schestowitz's Firefox and replaces it with Netscape 6 | Dec 31 08:46 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 08:46 |
| schestowitz | Thank | Dec 31 08:46 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Dec 31 08:46 |
| DaemonFC | don't mention it :) | Dec 31 08:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] How many audiophiles does it take to change a lightbulb? http://xkcd.com/841/ | Dec 31 08:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie can you provide specific examples where "fanatics turned [ #foss ] into a near religious movement"? C/f http://is.gd/jP6hQ | Dec 31 08:52 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/20759316386549760 | Dec 31 08:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz True, but too many people, have turned it into a near religious movement. Easy to support #foss but way too many fanatics. | Dec 31 08:53 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie if digital freedom can be named a "religion", so can "free market" advocacy (anarchy), democracy, and liberalism in general. | Dec 31 08:54 | |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-google-shows-off-its-chrome-web-app-store-/ | Dec 31 08:54 |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: religious capitalims zealots are nasty too. | Dec 31 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Religious religious | Dec 31 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Or 'religious'? | Dec 31 08:55 |
| gnufreex | I don't get | Dec 31 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Cause there's the real religious lobby, like the evangelists in the US who power the GOP using ignorance of people | Dec 31 08:55 |
| schestowitz | "Religion" is like trying to imply blind following, ignorance | Dec 31 08:56 |
| schestowitz | So it's just an insult, like "fascistic" | Dec 31 08:56 |
| gnufreex | I meant those who say "Microsoft is a bussines [...] so stop complaining" | Dec 31 08:56 |
| schestowitz | Notice how much they play into it versus freedom | Dec 31 08:57 |
| gnufreex | " Or else you are communist" | Dec 31 08:57 |
| schestowitz | And RMS' joke is not helping | Dec 31 08:57 |
| gnufreex | what RMS's joke? | Dec 31 08:57 |
| schestowitz | He spins the religion/religious stuff as Grav-mass and St. Ignucios [spelling] and people take it out of context | Dec 31 08:57 |
| gnufreex | st. IGNUcius? | Dec 31 08:57 |
| schestowitz | They used the "emacs virgin" joke to imply sexism | Dec 31 08:58 |
| schestowitz | When it fact it was opposite | Dec 31 08:58 |
| gnufreex | I read it. | Dec 31 08:58 |
| schestowitz | Making fun of a cult that *is* sexist | Dec 31 08:58 |
| gnufreex | It was ASSLESS troll | Dec 31 08:58 |
| schestowitz | He found a new person to obsess over | Dec 31 08:59 |
| schestowitz | But anyway.. | Dec 31 08:59 |
| gnufreex | Who is he attacking now? | Dec 31 08:59 |
| schestowitz | It's not about the people right now, it's the daemonisation of freedom | Dec 31 08:59 |
| schestowitz | That's how they keep the likes of Nader and CHomsky off the mainstream | Dec 31 08:59 |
| schestowitz | You need only watch one day of CNN propaganda (or Fox for the extreme) to see why. Michael Moore did manage to stay somewhere visible. | Dec 31 09:00 |
| schestowitz | Although CNN/Wolf hardly invite him | Dec 31 09:00 |
| schestowitz | They mostly invite fluffy ones like Gates and celebs or athletes | Dec 31 09:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jezra/@jezra] Yea @fabsh, where the hell is the previously unreleased jezra interview? | Dec 31 09:00 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Excellent rebuttal against media's !Wikileaks misinformation even my granola-hippie friends still believe http://ur1.ca/2pp3c cc:@jamesbcarp | Dec 31 09:00 | |
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| schestowitz | A lot of people take that for granted and the pedestal is used in this way, as a form of self-fulfilling prophecy that projects the preimposed views | Dec 31 09:01 |
| schestowitz | RMS is rarely on big-time TV even though he's a very major contibutor | Dec 31 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Guess who was invited to Charlie Rose? Linus. | Dec 31 09:01 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-microsoft-joins-a-coalition-against-a-google-ita-tie-up/ | Dec 31 09:02 |
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| schestowitz | Free market cronyism | Dec 31 09:02 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. They invite Linus because he lets absolutely everyone have they way. His 'no politics' mean 'companies do politics and get their way'. | Dec 31 09:03 |
| gnufreex | That is why companies are promoting Linus and dssing RMS | Dec 31 09:03 |
| schestowitz | http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2013685184_budget16m.html | Dec 31 09:03 |
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| schestowitz | "Why not include CUT FUNDING for ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS living ON WELFARE in our state? This is what happen when liberals in our state has the notion..." | Dec 31 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Watch them give Microsoft tax exemptions | Dec 31 09:03 |
| schestowitz | While cutting down schools | Dec 31 09:03 |
| schestowitz | Making people dumber... | Dec 31 09:03 |
| gnufreex | And I think Linus is doing it mostly because he wants money and exposure. | Dec 31 09:03 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I cannot manage my contacts on diaspora due to error 500 on every single page related to aspects. Diaspora is a #fail... http://ur1.ca/2pp59 | Dec 31 09:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 31 09:04 |
| gnufreex | He don't care what happens with Linux on higher level. | Dec 31 09:04 |
| schestowitz | x- http://is.gd/jJ91K | Dec 31 09:05 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: Linus is not the problem | Dec 31 09:06 |
| schestowitz | It's those who put all focus on him *consciously* who cause problem | Dec 31 09:06 |
| schestowitz | Linus does good work | Dec 31 09:06 |
| schestowitz | But those who use Linus FOundation (e.g. IBM, Intel, CBS) to rewrite the story of FOSS are the problem | Dec 31 09:07 |
| schestowitz | They want to just exploit and reform it, IMHO | Dec 31 09:07 |
| schestowitz | "They're a business, you can't blame them" | Dec 31 09:07 |
| schestowitz | Until people are crushed more and more (see video above with TSA rant), they'll say, "let it be, I can live with that" | Dec 31 09:08 |
| schestowitz | When WA cuts down programmes and people live in tent cities they'll care more, but by that time it gets too later. | Dec 31 09:09 |
| schestowitz | *late. | Dec 31 09:09 |
| gnufreex | I think he is. He attack all those who defends interests of Free Software, call them extremists and such. They practicaly removes them from development proces. And companies are giving him exposure becuase he is like that. If he stood up against companies (for blobs or such) they would not like him too much. | Dec 31 09:09 |
| schestowitz | Because they have nothing left and those who robbed them (banks etc) have all the power, the lobbyists, and govt. Reps. | Dec 31 09:09 |
| gnufreex | And he wouldn't get exposure and cash. | Dec 31 09:09 |
| schestowitz | The USA is becoming like the USSR with oligarchs. | Dec 31 09:09 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: he doesn't quite attack them | Dec 31 09:10 |
| schestowitz | And it's a rarity, too | Dec 31 09:10 |
| schestowitz | They are mostly attacked by other people | Dec 31 09:10 |
| schestowitz | Mr. Mac (A) actually does more attcking | Dec 31 09:10 |
| gnufreex | That is really the problem. He does it subltle, but he privately told people that he hates RMS. | Dec 31 09:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] 365 Project Day 48: Escapism or Some Macros http://rix.si/index.php/365_Project_Day_48:_Escapism_or_Some_Macros | Dec 31 09:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 365 Project Day 48: Escapism or Some Macros - rrix@TheStaff .::. Size~: 36.32 KB | Dec 31 09:10 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/24/2011_and_open_source/ | Dec 31 09:11 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: 2011: The year open source (really) goes capitalist • The Register .::. Size~: 23.65 KB | Dec 31 09:11 |
| schestowitz | By Mac | Dec 31 09:11 |
| schestowitz | BTW, he works on proprietary s/w now | Dec 31 09:11 |
| gnufreex | He claims he works of "open source" | Dec 31 09:11 |
| schestowitz | His views are more troubling to me than Linus', but he has no influence | Dec 31 09:11 |
| schestowitz | He does, however (or did), help disrupt a major distro | Dec 31 09:11 |
| gnufreex | Probably because that clod thing is free of charge | Dec 31 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu took the userjuice out of all distros | Dec 31 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Mandriva one of the victims.. | Dec 31 09:12 |
| schestowitz | And then they shoved a Bong search bar into FF (cancelled at last moment after massive outcry) | Dec 31 09:12 |
| schestowitz | And Fog Computing | Dec 31 09:12 |
| schestowitz | At least now he takes it into another company+board | Dec 31 09:12 |
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| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-yahoo-hints-at-selling-delicious/ | Dec 31 09:13 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Yahoo Hints At Selling Delicious—Or Giving It Away | paidContent .::. Size~: 31.02 KB | Dec 31 09:13 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC is a little quirky today | Dec 31 09:13 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] New Year's Message: From Pessimism To Optimism... And The Power Of Innovation - http://bit.ly/hafFrB @mmasnick looks back and forward | Dec 31 09:14 | |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: maybe it's good that there's 'open source' | Dec 31 09:14 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Year's Message: From Pessimism To Optimism... And The Power Of Innovation | Techdirt .::. Size~: 55.82 KB | Dec 31 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | I've been back and forth tearing that desk apart | Dec 31 09:14 |
| schestowitz | At least people can't meddle with the notion of Free software that way | Dec 31 09:14 |
| DaemonFC | I'm a little winded right now from popping some welds with a screwdriver | Dec 31 09:14 |
| gnufreex | Well, I don't doubt that. | Dec 31 09:14 |
| schestowitz | They can try to hijack "open source" - not just Microsoft does this | Dec 31 09:14 |
| schestowitz | FSF has raised over 200k so far | Dec 31 09:14 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | Probably including those donations from IBM etc | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | Like 50k | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | This way IBM is left alone by FSF | Dec 31 09:15 |
| gnufreex | It goes slow. | Dec 31 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | I hate disposing of furniture | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | No criticism | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | Slience money | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft paid Updegrove | Dec 31 09:15 |
| DaemonFC | figuring out how to make this stuff fit in trash bags | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | And Redmonk... | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | Apache... | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | So they are 'gagged' | Dec 31 09:15 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: That money counter on FSF site, it counts what they got from 'patrons' ? | Dec 31 09:15 |
| schestowitz | I reckon so | Dec 31 09:16 |
| schestowitz | I started at around 100k last month | Dec 31 09:16 |
| gnufreex | They only plan to use half of milon for whole year...? that sucks. | Dec 31 09:16 |
| gnufreex | I thought they hire some folks. | Dec 31 09:16 |
| gnufreex | to hack. | Dec 31 09:16 |
| schestowitz | http://paidcontent.org/article/419-interview-realnetworks-kimball-is-there-a-comeback-on-the-way/ | Dec 31 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Interview: RealNetworks’ Kimball: Is There A Comeback On The Way? | paidContent .::. Size~: 39.11 KB | Dec 31 09:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Argl. Now even https://joindiaspora.com/notifications gives me an error 500! #nothappy http://ur1.ca/2pp8t | Dec 31 09:17 | |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: hardly | Dec 31 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 31 09:17 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 31 09:17 |
| schestowitz | RMS told me their donations were down | Dec 31 09:17 |
| schestowitz | That's whay I worry in part | Dec 31 09:17 |
| schestowitz | ^^hmmm... bot bug..., never seen that symptom | Dec 31 09:17 |
| schestowitz | Maybe just titles of the 500 error pages | Dec 31 09:18 |
| schestowitz | FSF is being marginalised | Dec 31 09:18 |
| schestowitz | They can deny it all they want | Dec 31 09:18 |
| schestowitz | The Savannah RSS feed is nearly abandoned | Dec 31 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Obscurity can assure people will pass over the FSF and not help it with resources | Dec 31 09:19 |
| schestowitz | And without FSF all we gave left is what? BSD? Canonical? LOL. | Dec 31 09:19 |
| schestowitz | OSI is also quite defunct | Dec 31 09:20 |
| gnufreex | Canonical might be the reason why people don't donate to FSF> | Dec 31 09:20 |
| schestowitz | No blog posts, Webmink replied to me re their site being down for days without anyone taking over it | Dec 31 09:20 |
| gnufreex | Canonical sponsors trolls that attack FSF> | Dec 31 09:20 |
| gnufreex | . | Dec 31 09:20 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: how so? | Dec 31 09:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Ministers must 'wise up not clam up' after #WikiLeaks disclosures - http://bit.ly/g8Ksn2 nice to see someone drawing the right conclusion | Dec 31 09:20 | |
| schestowitz | oh, that | Dec 31 09:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Ministers must 'wise up not clam up' after WikiLeaks disclosures | Politics | The Guardian .::. Size~: 135.91 KB | Dec 31 09:20 |
| schestowitz | They don't sponsor them | Dec 31 09:20 |
| schestowitz | But they hired such a COO | Dec 31 09:20 |
| schestowitz | and they harbour them in their forums | Dec 31 09:21 |
| schestowitz | Like Reddit | Dec 31 09:21 |
| schestowitz | They foster a culture when people are told repeatedly the FSF is like a crazy church | Dec 31 09:21 |
| schestowitz | Wherein they focus on appearance of a person and not the message | Dec 31 09:21 |
| schestowitz | Same tactics are not being employed vs Wikileaks | Dec 31 09:21 |
| schestowitz | The parallels don't apply just to hacker groups | Dec 31 09:22 |
| schestowitz | What a load of fluff @ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/index | Dec 31 09:24 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.the-source.com/2010/12/nomachine-takes-nx-closed-source/ | Dec 31 09:25 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] In 2011 !Canonical ought to do more against #swpats -- with their position (using others' labour) comes responsibility. Freedom ain't free. | Dec 31 09:25 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2010/11/23/the-ubuntu-uk-christmas-party/ | Dec 31 09:26 |
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| schestowitz | Any GNU parties | Dec 31 09:26 |
| schestowitz | How come nobody describes these are Mark worship? | Dec 31 09:26 |
| schestowitz | Only the FSF (and maybe Apple) get that sort of religious atrib. | Dec 31 09:26 |
| schestowitz | *attrib. | Dec 31 09:26 |
| gnufreex | Hm... interesting coincidence. I was jus reading The-Source. | Dec 31 09:27 |
| schestowitz | http://tankriot.com/2010/101/ | Dec 31 09:27 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] !listening to Foo Fighters - Just recently got into them, not bad choons. | Dec 31 09:27 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.stephenfry.com/ becomes a photolog now | Dec 31 09:28 |
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| schestowitz | "You must be logged in to post a comment." | Dec 31 09:28 |
| schestowitz | Of course.. | Dec 31 09:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/ is also hardly active since 2009 | Dec 31 09:28 |
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| schestowitz | Just the occasionally Apple boosting | Dec 31 09:29 |
| schestowitz | Apple exploits people like him | Dec 31 09:29 |
| schestowitz | They think they do good for society by advancing Apple's power | Dec 31 09:29 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pheedcontent.com/click.phdo?i=23943df5a9d6e4122ac139a5d14b5b45 | Dec 31 09:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/20765874596093953 | Dec 31 09:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz Open source is a great philosophy and I embrace it. But *not* supporting it doesn't make someone a bad person or immoral. | Dec 31 09:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/20766097045200896 | Dec 31 09:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz I'm not saying open source is a religion. I'm saying that there are those pushing it as one. Same with *any* movement. | Dec 31 09:31 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie what does that have to do with religion? I believe that all sorts of things are amoral/immoral, not for religious reasons. | Dec 31 09:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie but are there any examples of FOSS being pushed as "a religion"? I asked for specific examples, waiting for an answer, still. | Dec 31 09:32 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20772794153304064 | Dec 31 09:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz People could also announce rewards for making #OpenSource wireless cards device drivers.Like adafruit did for kinect | Dec 31 09:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20773019345485825 | Dec 31 09:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz most wireless cards don't even have proprietary drivers for #Linux | Dec 31 09:32 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Dec 31 09:34 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61334664 | Dec 31 09:35 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Friday, 31-Dec-10 09:32:54 UTC - Identi.ca: @adhimitra_india helping KINect is helping proprietary software+hardware (Microsoft), so not a good example there. | Dec 31 09:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] @schestowitz check stallmanism.com ;-) (Full Disclosure: I am one of the creators of that) | Dec 31 09:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @notriddle: Jimbo Wales-style banner is done. Just untar it, put png & js somewhere, and add script to HTML http://ompldr.org/vNnNraA | Dec 31 10:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @gotunandan You mean like @sil? ;) | Dec 31 10:02 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jezra Doesn't exist. I'm making fun of people.... ;) | Dec 31 10:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @glynmoody Assange vows to release all files in case of death or incarceration - http://bit.ly/h3upbM last bit is new, no? (v @Asher_ ... | Dec 31 10:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Hmmmm..... Now..... Get a Nexus S or have @methoddan fly to FOSDEM? Hmmmm...... Nexus S, Dan. Dan, Nexus S.... ;) | Dec 31 10:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] As 2010 sets, a sad recount of how the SUN finally set - http://solarislackware.blogspot.com/2010/12/watching-sun-set.html #fb | Dec 31 10:09 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] No. No. People. It gets cold in Arizona normally. Stop saying that. It's cold in Phoenix that's exceptional. | Dec 31 10:14 | |
| gnufreex | What a load of rubish. | Dec 31 10:30 |
| gnufreex | Sun didn't die because of open source, propriatary software never made money for them either. | Dec 31 10:30 |
| gnufreex | And Solaris 10 was never opensouirced. | Dec 31 10:31 |
| DaemonFC | SCOlaris | Dec 31 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle is to SCO as Solaris is to UnixWare | Dec 31 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Dec 31 10:34 |
| DaemonFC | their making Solaris proprietary again is like clinging to a sinking ship and drilling a few more holes | Dec 31 10:35 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !Listening to really vintage !Dylan and reading news feeds... | Dec 31 10:35 | |
| gnufreex | Haha | Dec 31 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | their business strategy makes no sense at all | Dec 31 10:36 |
| gnufreex | I wouldn't put it better myself | Dec 31 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | it's a recipe for a quicker death | Dec 31 10:36 |
| gnufreex | Here is what Sun *really* should have done: | Dec 31 10:36 |
| gnufreex | Opensource SunOS kernle under GPLv3 | Dec 31 10:36 |
| gnufreex | Keep userland propiratary. | Dec 31 10:36 |
| gnufreex | Wait until Debian ports SunOS to Glibc | Dec 31 10:37 |
| gnufreex | And GCC | Dec 31 10:37 |
| gnufreex | and makes GNU/SunOS. | Dec 31 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | the UNIX market right now is basically dead, the revenue coming in is smaller every year, and it's because nobody is buying new systems with UNIX, and the only money coming in is from existing installs | Dec 31 10:37 |
| gnufreex | Then make Solaris 11 on top of GNU/SunOS | Dec 31 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | they should have gotten into Linux somehow instead of trying to keep Solaris going | Dec 31 10:37 |
| gnufreex | And drop scc and Sun userland | Dec 31 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | there is a GNU on Solaris, Nexenta | Dec 31 10:38 |
| gnufreex | I know | Dec 31 10:38 |
| gnufreex | But it is not on glibc | Dec 31 10:38 |
| gnufreex | So doesnt have all packages | Dec 31 10:38 |
| gnufreex | and it sucks | Dec 31 10:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think Solaris was that special anyway | Dec 31 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | especially not on x86 | Dec 31 10:39 |
| gnufreex | SunOS kernel is special | Dec 31 10:39 |
| gnufreex | It scales to heaven | Dec 31 10:39 |
| DaemonFC | They sent me a Solaris 10 DVD for free | Dec 31 10:39 |
| gnufreex | But Linux will now scale to, when BKL is dead. | Dec 31 10:40 |
| DaemonFC | it was alright but I didn't keep it long | Dec 31 10:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Follow Rod: Linden Lab's New CEO's is @rodvik on Twitter - http://bit.ly/dFtWjV but does anyone care any more? #secondlife | Dec 31 10:40 | |
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| DaemonFC | Second Life is so boring | Dec 31 10:41 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to get banned to the corn field when I had enough of the place and strapped a penis onto my avatar and streaked through mormon land :P | Dec 31 10:42 |
| gnufreex | screw second life, I can't manage the first one. | Dec 31 10:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | screw second life, I'm banging your mom | Dec 31 10:42 |
| gnufreex | DaemonFC: You used Solaris on desktop? | Dec 31 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Dec 31 10:43 |
| gnufreex | What hardware you have? | Dec 31 10:43 |
| gnufreex | It is very slow on dual core and single core | Dec 31 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | they sent me one DVD for Sparc and one for x86/x86-64 | Dec 31 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | worked fine for me, and that system was a Core 2 Duo | Dec 31 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | solaris isnt slow in that way | Dec 31 10:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | as a desktop OS, it'd run as fast as anything else | Dec 31 10:44 |
| gnufreex | When I tried it on low spec computers, it was dog slow. | Dec 31 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | it detects whether you have a 32-bit or 64-bit x86 processor and picks which kernel to load | Dec 31 10:44 |
| gnufreex | But on big servers, it rocks | Dec 31 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | I put OpenSolaris on my laptop :) | Dec 31 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | 1 gb of RAM and a Sempron 3000 | Dec 31 10:45 |
| DaemonFC | not exactly a top of the line system | Dec 31 10:45 |
| gnufreex | I had openSolaris on laptop until recently. | Dec 31 10:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | the speed isnt really the issue | Dec 31 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | also, it sucks on x86 period | Dec 31 10:46 |
| gnufreex | It was slower than GNU/Linux, but not that much. | Dec 31 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | its just that usability wise, it sucks | Dec 31 10:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only way solaris will ever become popular is if debian makes a ksolaris distro | Dec 31 10:46 |
| gnufreex | Sun screwed that with CDDL | Dec 31 10:46 |
| gnufreex | Corporate Decision about Destroying Linux | Dec 31 10:47 |
| gnufreex | Well, it backfired badly | Dec 31 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | my point stands, however | Dec 31 10:47 |
| gnufreex | what point? | Dec 31 10:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | [05:45:39] <Diablo-D3> the only way solaris will ever become popular is if debian makes a ksolaris distro | Dec 31 10:48 |
| gnufreex | Yeah... that means never. | Dec 31 10:48 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Dec 31 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | basically. | Dec 31 10:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | although theres nex... nex... whatever the hell it is | Dec 31 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | debian-like on top of solaris | Dec 31 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | problem is, they used ubuntu as the base | Dec 31 10:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | and on top of that, they fucked it up | Dec 31 10:49 |
| gnufreex | Problem is that half stuff doesn't work and won't compile | Dec 31 10:49 |
| gnufreex | I tried | Dec 31 10:49 |
| gnufreex | sun libc is half propriatary | Dec 31 10:49 |
| gnufreex | anywats | Dec 31 10:49 |
| gnufreex | *anyways | Dec 31 10:49 |
| gnufreex | It is a binary blob, and Oracle won't compile it anymore | Dec 31 10:50 |
| gnufreex | so it will die due to bit rot | Dec 31 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | basically, yeah | Dec 31 10:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | although illumos wants to fix that | Dec 31 10:50 |
| gnufreex | Yeah. Forgot that. | Dec 31 10:50 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] I love "Rambling Willie". :D !Dylan | Dec 31 10:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] The Gnome:Ayatana Project http://lxnews.org/2010/12/31/the-gnome-ayatana-project/ | Dec 31 10:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[maymaym/@maymaym] Bold words from John F. Kennedy on why we need !Wikileaks: http://youtu.be/aOlcUVFSYCs Especially as he lied abt Vietnam: http://is.gd/jPoNK | Dec 31 10:52 | |
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| gnufreex | Also, what kind of idiot thinks that people will switch OS because of filesystem and dinamic tracing system? | Dec 31 10:55 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Joy of #Stats (fab BBC video by Hans Rosling) - http://bit.ly/eErtL4 I hated stats when I was studying #maths; I think I made a mistake | Dec 31 10:55 | |
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| gnufreex | Gnu/Linux already had XFS which is faster than ZFS. | Dec 31 10:56 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] @fabsh hmm :) | Dec 31 11:04 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] 8-bit RPG Gurk Now in Android Market http://lxnews.org/2010/12/31/8-bit-rpg-gurk-android-market/ | Dec 31 11:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] So, the last sunset of 2010 in my part of the planet. 2011 - here we come! Happy new year all! #fb | Dec 31 11:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] While it is #disturbung to see the GPL violation of most #Android Tablets, it is amazing to see how many exist! http://ur1.ca/2pq0v | Dec 31 11:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @jwildeboer While it is #disturbung to see the GPL violation of most #Android Tablets, it is amazing to see how many exist! http://ur ... | Dec 31 11:17 | |
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| cubezzz | New Linux audio blog done: | Dec 31 11:19 |
| cubezzz | http://cubexyz.blogspot.com/2010/12/linux-audio-blog-8.html | Dec 31 11:20 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FreeAdviceMan1/status/20774517030780929 | Dec 31 11:20 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FreeAdviceMan1: @schestowitz Wotz diss??! Freedom ain't free?! That's Crypto-Fascist Talk like NewSpeak! Rubbish! FREEDOM is FREE for EVERYBODY! | Dec 31 11:20 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @jwildeboer Totally agree! | Dec 31 11:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @jwildeboer that one too is a ripoff or derivative of many prior thinkers, some of whom from MIT. This one hasn't elements of Paganism. | Dec 31 11:20 | |
| gnufreex | lol | Dec 31 11:21 |
| gnufreex | Who is that FreeAdviceMan1 | Dec 31 11:21 |
| schestowitz | NO IDEA | Dec 31 11:21 |
| schestowitz | oops | Dec 31 11:21 |
| schestowitz | no idea | Dec 31 11:21 |
| gnufreex | There is no such thing as a free advice. | Dec 31 11:21 |
| gnufreex | you need to compute it yourself | Dec 31 11:22 |
| gnufreex | Or else, it is not free | Dec 31 11:22 |
| gnufreex | :-) | Dec 31 11:22 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@FreeAdviceMan1 what I meant was, freedom as in free speech is something you must always work to defend,it doesn't come cheaply or for free | Dec 31 11:22 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/klikunikom/status/20775229743702017 | Dec 31 11:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @klikunikom: via @adhimitra_india @schestowitz most wireless cards don't even have proprietary drivers for #Linux | Dec 31 11:22 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/20775574674870272 | Dec 31 11:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz I think perhaps you are misunderstanding my use of the word "religion". I don't mean "with a deity" but rather the blind zeal. | Dec 31 11:22 |
| schestowitz | Artistic use of the word "religion" | Dec 31 11:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hopefully MMX was good for all of you ! Looking forward to a better MMXI #happy #newyear | Dec 31 11:24 | |
| gnufreex | I see he is pointing RMS, but whole point of RMS' argument is not to take anything blindly, and think with your head. | Dec 31 11:24 |
| gnufreex | Drop the assumption and compute it again. | Dec 31 11:24 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/20775606572552192 | Dec 31 11:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @aveeksen: @CajunTechie @schestowitz there are even in India.FSF volunteers mail LUG managers to change name to GLUG and are guite rude | Dec 31 11:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie if you refer to anything -- inc. !FSF -- as a "religion", then by definition it ought to imply deities, of which there's none | Dec 31 11:25 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jwildeboer/status/20775776081158144 | Dec 31 11:25 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @jwildeboer: @schestowitz check stallmanism.com ;-) (Full Disclosure: I am one of the creators of that) | Dec 31 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Funny site | Dec 31 11:26 |
| schestowitz | Did you see it? | Dec 31 11:26 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/CajunTechie/status/20775818888220672 | Dec 31 11:27 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @CajunTechie: @schestowitz I think my example of @RMS defining peoples morals and ethics by if they embrace free software or not is a good example of that | Dec 31 11:27 |
| gnufreex | What a bunch of rubish. | Dec 31 11:28 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/20775996353421312 | Dec 31 11:28 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @aveeksen: @CajunTechie @schestowitz people want you to boycott Facebook,etc..Where's the freedom then?Its my personal choice or peer pressure?! | Dec 31 11:28 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: yeah | Dec 31 11:28 |
| schestowitz | I have tons of messages like this from the past hous | Dec 31 11:28 |
| schestowitz | *hous | Dec 31 11:29 |
| schestowitz | *hour | Dec 31 11:29 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen I think that going along the thinking of Gandhi, #India needs !GNU values more than those which are associated only w/ the kernel | Dec 31 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Working on the !LO 183 show notes. Lots of work.... | Dec 31 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] I added my current problems with error 500 all over the place to http://bugs.joindiaspora.com/issues/734 hoping it wi... http://ur1.ca/2pq2v | Dec 31 11:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@CajunTechie @rms also does activism in copyright (culture); so he defines people by their sharing (wealth, culture, code), not just !fs | Dec 31 11:29 | |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 31 11:29 |
| gnufreex | They spread religion. | Dec 31 11:29 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20785716577435648 | Dec 31 11:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz no.They are using it by open source device driver for Kinect.California researchers hacked it for World of Warcraft recently... | Dec 31 11:29 |
| gnufreex | Relion that Free Software is religious. | Dec 31 11:29 |
| gnufreex | That claim can only be described as blind religion. It has no basis in reality. | Dec 31 11:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20786196753948672 | Dec 31 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz They plan to use the open driver to use to to have gesture based control for PCs.Like MIT's #SixthSense aims to(though not 4 PC | Dec 31 11:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20786557522808832 | Dec 31 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz As of now most hardware is proprietary. Open source hardware is a very small percentage | Dec 31 11:30 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen the freedom means *preservation* of solidarity/autonomy, not freedom of action (which is the 'freedom' Corps/Friedmanism preach) | Dec 31 11:30 | |
| oiaohm | Really there is a difference between Free Software and Religion. Free Software can be proven to exist. | Dec 31 11:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20787733265907713 | Dec 31 11:30 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz processor,wi-fi card,hard disk,etc. None are open source hardware | Dec 31 11:30 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RoadPackerGroup/status/20796474266755073 | Dec 31 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @RoadPackerGroup: The RoadPacker Group Ltd Daily is out! http://bit.ly/c6hf1r ▸ Top stories today by @ogieboogie @twittfeed @solarpowerjohn @schestowitz | Dec 31 11:31 |
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| gnufreex | Only thing that might lead that way is word 'beleive'. By words, you can also call it communism by fact that there is a 'community. | Dec 31 11:31 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FreeAdviceMan1/status/20803003808227328 | Dec 31 11:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FreeAdviceMan1: @schestowitz STILL WRONG! FREEDOM does not have to be DEFENDED! People have to be defended! FREE SPEECH is its own DEFENSE and costs NOTHING | Dec 31 11:31 |
| schestowitz | "Free Advice" | Dec 31 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | RPM Fusion finally built Catalyst for Fedora 14 | Dec 31 11:32 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FreeAdviceMan1/status/20803601064534016 | Dec 31 11:32 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FreeAdviceMan1: @schestowitz You are simply falling for one of the Oldest Tricks in The Book! Today's Pseudo-Conservatives are mostly Fascists! | Dec 31 11:32 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: I bet those folks are like Linsux trolls. | Dec 31 11:32 |
| gnufreex | Probably paid. | Dec 31 11:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/20804374187999232 | Dec 31 11:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: @FreeAdviceMan1 I can agree on the latter point | Dec 31 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Then lines are Linsux quality. | Dec 31 11:33 |
| schestowitz | gnufreex: weird | Dec 31 11:33 |
| gnufreex | Or if not paid, then probably have their own vested interest. | Dec 31 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Free Speech is it own defence. Has FreeAdviceMan not read history. | Dec 31 11:33 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/FreeAdviceMan1/status/20804120550047744 | Dec 31 11:33 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @FreeAdviceMan1: @schestowitz Repeating cleverly worded but dangerously incorrect messages that are devised to give unjustified power to elites is THE THREAT | Dec 31 11:33 |
| oiaohm | People have had to fight for the right of freespeech. | Dec 31 11:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@adhimitra_india it helps Microsoft makes profits, which in turn it uses to lobby for #swpats and sue companies that distribute !gnu !linux | Dec 31 11:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@FreeAdviceMan1 people's rights need to be defended as a "collective". Defending them one by one while ignoring lawmaking would not work. | Dec 31 11:34 | |
| oiaohm | Many times in history speak freely was get head cut off. | Dec 31 11:34 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/20804698718076928 | Dec 31 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz: @FreeAdviceMan1 you are not refuting me here, I agree with your latter point | Dec 31 11:34 |
| gnufreex | I think free speech is mostly dead now. | Dec 31 11:34 |
| oiaohm | We have to always defend the right to freespeech. | Dec 31 11:34 |
| gnufreex | You don't get jailed, but you get character assasination if those in power don't like you | Dec 31 11:35 |
| oiaohm | Its not fully dead. But be have one hell of a fight ahead. gnufreex | Dec 31 11:35 |
| cubezzz | we have free speech, especially if you're an unknown john smith type | Dec 31 11:35 |
| cubezzz | the only prob is no one listens to you :) | Dec 31 11:35 |
| oiaohm | Character Assination normally does not work out in the end. | Dec 31 11:36 |
| schestowitz | [10:34] <DaemonFC> Oracle is to SCO as Solaris is to UnixWare | Dec 31 11:37 |
| schestowitz | ORCL gets Linux/Unix patents via CPTN | Dec 31 11:37 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jwildeboer While it is #disturbung to see the GPL violation of most #Android Tablets, it is amazing to see how many exist! http://ur ... | Dec 31 11:37 | |
| DaemonFC | then they attack | Dec 31 11:37 |
| schestowitz | With CaPTaiN Ballmer | Dec 31 11:37 |
| gnufreex | lol | Dec 31 11:37 |
| schestowitz | Weirdly enough SCOracle is a top funder of the FSF! | Dec 31 11:37 |
| oiaohm | Oracle is a odd ball company. | Dec 31 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Always has been. | Dec 31 11:38 |
| gnufreex | schestowitz: That is Sun, just relabeled. | Dec 31 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Never able to work out if they should be closed or open source. | Dec 31 11:38 |
| gnufreex | In fact.... | Dec 31 11:38 |
| gnufreex | I remember. | Dec 31 11:38 |
| oiaohm | So end up doing stupid things. | Dec 31 11:38 |
| gnufreex | Both Oracle and Sun were in "over 25 000" | Dec 31 11:38 |
| gnufreex | So Oracle should now be in $50 000 | Dec 31 11:39 |
| oiaohm | Oracle also funds the Linux foundation and other open source entiers. | Dec 31 11:39 |
| gnufreex | group | Dec 31 11:39 |
| oiaohm | Basically Orcale is one confused beast. | Dec 31 11:39 |
| gnufreex | Wait.... | Dec 31 11:40 |
| gnufreex | I see MO of Oracle | Dec 31 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | Oracle still has that Unbreakable Linux | Dec 31 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | basically it's just a RHEL clone | Dec 31 11:40 |
| gnufreex | They are not killing GPL projects. Just CDDL ones. | Dec 31 11:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♺ @maymaym Bold words from John F. Kennedy on why we need !WL http://youtu.be/aOlcUVFSYCs Esp. as he lied abt Vietnam http://is.gd/jPoNK | Dec 31 11:40 | |
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| gnufreex | But CPTN is dangerous | Dec 31 11:40 |
| gnufreex | They could circumvent GPL patent grant with that. | Dec 31 11:41 |
| gnufreex | CPTN distributes nothing. | Dec 31 11:41 |
| oiaohm | Really fine print. | Dec 31 11:41 |
| oiaohm | OIN agreement that Orcale does depend on could be rendered void for Oracle of CPTN takes actions . | Dec 31 11:42 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] RT @royhugo ♺ @Rezonet: John Pilger in conversation with Julian Assange http://vimeo.com/18269080 | Dec 31 11:42 | |
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| oiaohm | So Orcale would have to produce documents that they were out voted. gnufreex | Dec 31 11:42 |
| oiaohm | Google went out of there way to avoid having GPL requirements in android. | Dec 31 11:43 |
| oiaohm | Yet the little bit that was left Android tablets have not followed. | Dec 31 11:44 |
| gnufreex | IMHO, google could switch to GPL now since they have momentum already. | Dec 31 11:45 |
| gnufreex | No way device makers will drop android. | Dec 31 11:46 |
| gnufreex | And if they do, then Google could pick up one or two of them. | Dec 31 11:46 |
| gnufreex | Motorola phones division for example. | Dec 31 11:46 |
| oiaohm | Really we want meego and android as 1 and 2. | Dec 31 11:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/20806715393974272 | Dec 31 11:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @aveeksen: @schestowitz Exactly why more people side with #OpenSource than #FOSS | Dec 31 11:47 |
| gnufreex | Yep | Dec 31 11:47 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen but people are rarely shown both sides of this debate, where "open source" is always promoted by corporate media and !fsf shunned | Dec 31 11:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @macno: I'm updating brdcst.it to 0.2 #brdcst | Dec 31 11:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "There is very grave danger... censorship and cocealment" - -Kennedy http://is.gd/jPyzO | Dec 31 11:55 | |
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| gnufreex | schestowitz: When I said you should wait with the book on Novell, this is what I predicted. OSI might now stall aquisition, and Novell might report loses, and it might get bought for peanuts at the end. So, book should writte about that too. So that reader is even more convinced that boycott worked :-) | Dec 31 11:59 |
| gnufreex | ( I meant book should say about novell being sold for peanuts, not my prediction. That is irrelevant) | Dec 31 12:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/rms-ati-protest.html | Dec 31 12:16 |
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| schestowitz | gnufreex: Novell is not sold yet | Dec 31 12:17 |
| schestowitz | It might be blocked | Dec 31 12:17 |
| gnufreex | That is what I am saying | Dec 31 12:17 |
| schestowitz | AttachMSFT needs to find a borrower too, it's still looking | Dec 31 12:17 |
| schestowitz | "About a year ago i split up with the PDP-10 computer to which I was married for ten years." http://www.stallman.org/#humorousbio | Dec 31 12:17 |
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| schestowitz | By the way, in case you wonder why RMS hides his childhood | Dec 31 12:19 |
| schestowitz | http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch03.html | Dec 31 12:19 |
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| gnufreex | I read that. | Dec 31 12:20 |
| gnufreex | I read pretty much everything on RMS. | Dec 31 12:20 |
| schestowitz | 'All I remember is his stepsister coming to me and saying, `What is he going to be when he grows up? A fascist?'" ' | Dec 31 12:23 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Dec 31 12:23 |
| gnufreex | lol | Dec 31 12:23 |
| -Martinp23-[Global Notice] As the first parts of the world start to enter 2011, all of us here at freenode & PDPC would like to wish you a fantastic New Year and a great 2011. This is the only global notice we'll send about the new year celebrations - further messages will be sent using wallops - do /umode +w to see them (and if you want to join the party, /j #freenode-newyears). Thanks for flying freenode over 2010 and here's to 2011! | Dec 31 12:24 | |
| schestowitz | I didn't know he had worked at IBM | Dec 31 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Like Eben | Dec 31 12:33 |
| gnufreex | He also worked for intel as consultant. | Dec 31 12:33 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] ♺ @veeence Loading 2011... ███████████████ 99.73% | Dec 31 12:34 | |
| gnufreex | Ported GCC to i960 | Dec 31 12:34 |
| gnufreex | Or that other RISC chip from intel... i460 | Dec 31 12:34 |
| gnufreex | or whatever they called it. | Dec 31 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Paul Graham's troll essay ... interesting reading http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/5d9fd01ea61a43a8# | Dec 31 12:47 |
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| schestowitz | microsoft is dead: an essay by Paul Graham http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/555ec1b5e0789ae7# | Dec 31 12:48 |
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| schestowitz | ok, back to hacking.. | Dec 31 12:50 |
| schestowitz | I spent 2 hours reading.. | Dec 31 12:50 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] "If you believe in a representative democracy then the first past the post system is not very good at delivering it" Prof John Curtice today | Dec 31 12:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Prof Steven Fielding "Politicians can be more successful if they can mould how people think" today | Dec 31 13:02 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/20812919381950464 | Dec 31 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @aveeksen: @schestowitz mainstream non-technical media doesn't even give space to open source. | Dec 31 13:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/20813256532697089 | Dec 31 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @aveeksen: @schestowitz What, in your opinion, would be advantages of FOSS over open source? Today most open source is FOSS anyway.So understanding.. | Dec 31 13:06 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/20813764186087424 | Dec 31 13:06 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @aveeksen: @schestowitz So understanding FOSS's importance is difficult as its dominant in open source world | Dec 31 13:06 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen I don't think of it as "FOSS". I assess values necessary to ensure autonomy & personal power. [F]reedom in "FOSS" is one of them. | Dec 31 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen When you do not control the software that you use, someone else controls you, i.e. gains power over your life -> digital slavery | Dec 31 13:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] .@aveeksen If you were to talk about freedom of speech, unless you are given rights+platform (e.g. free press), your needs will be abolished | Dec 31 13:12 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[webmink/@webmink] links for 2010-12-31: OSI Asks German FCO to Look Into the Proposed Patent Deal & You Can Too Groklaw has some ... http://wmk.me/i8WM2l | Dec 31 13:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @schestowitz @CajunTechie Fanatics? No. I did suggest that using Proprietary Software wasn't morally right for any church. | Dec 31 13:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Our current thoughts on the 27C3 fingerprinting research and ars technica article, http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Dec-2010/msg00257.html | Dec 31 13:34 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] the whole thread on the 27C3 discussion starts here, http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Dec-2010/msg00253.html | Dec 31 13:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @FantasyFaction: 98 Forum Members. Come help us reach 100; http://fantasy-faction.com/forum - Topics today; best books of 2010, Sequels | Dec 31 13:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @thetecheye: RIM hassled by Apple fanbois tendency - Tame Apple Press® strikes again http://bit.ly/fY0NhA #hardware | Dec 31 13:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @glynmoody: Ministers must wise up not clam up after #WikiLeaks disclosures - http://bit.ly/g8Ksn2 - someone drawing the right conclusion | Dec 31 13:45 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @doctorow: For your safety we have suspended the bill of rights http://twitpic.com/3litk4 | Dec 31 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Ont_Ombudsman: In case you missed our Top 10 of 2010, here they are in more details: http://on.fb.me/hsHoaA | Dec 31 13:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: So far my fave personal New Year's Resolution is to eat more chocolate! | Dec 31 13:47 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @mrosero: @lxoliva: esto es lo que he estado haciendo que deberia hacer #jedi http://ur1.ca/2pkwv !fsfla | Dec 31 13:55 | |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/aveeksen/status/20813764186087424 | Dec 31 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @aveeksen: @schestowitz So understanding FOSS's importance is difficult as its dominant in open source world | Dec 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20830137834541056 | Dec 31 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz You can say that. True completely. But what about wi-fi cards? | Dec 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20830648713347072 | Dec 31 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz That you don't get drivers for Linux is clearly #Microsoft lobby's doing.(Brocade's is one such wi-fi card manufacturer) | Dec 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/adhimitra_india/status/20830982730940416 | Dec 31 13:59 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @adhimitra_india: @schestowitz moreover if you use kinect with open drivers for something else Microsoft doesn't earn on it, except for Kinect's sales | Dec 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Wait, WHAT? | Dec 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Sales are all it's about.. | Dec 31 13:59 |
| oiaohm | Ok what date is adhimtra talking about. | Dec 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz | Not sure | Dec 31 13:59 |
| schestowitz | But he's no troll | Dec 31 14:00 |
| schestowitz | He supports my work afaik | Dec 31 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Because Broadcom has been releasing drivers to the Linux kernel directly. | Dec 31 14:00 |
| oiaohm | For there wificards | Dec 31 14:00 |
| oiaohm | in the last 6 months. | Dec 31 14:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WikiLeaks: discord over US support for Canadian tar sands oil pipeline - http://bit.ly/gyA7fL "higher environmental footprint" | Dec 31 14:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks reveals State Department discord over U.S. support for Canadian tar sands oil pipeline « Climate Progress .::. Size~: 47.13 KB | Dec 31 14:00 |
| oiaohm | Linux market share is now large enough that hardware makers cannot ingnore as much as they use to. | Dec 31 14:01 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Hackers crack open #GSM networks to eavesdrop on mobile calls - http://bit.ly/igtiPo but "will not release the kit for others to use" | Dec 31 14:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hackers crack open GSM networks to eavesdrop on mobile calls .::. Size~: 97.12 KB | Dec 31 14:02 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Life: 2010 in review | http://bit.ly/dL0Pli #opensource #cars #facebook #gaming #healthcare #iphone #zombie #oilspill | Dec 31 14:04 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Open*Life: 2010 in review | opensource.com .::. Size~: 45.91 KB | Dec 31 14:04 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #WikiLeaks' #Assange: 2,000 sites now have all documents - http://bit.ly/gndjnv very wise (v @Asher_Wolf @McClatchyDC) | Dec 31 14:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WikiLeaks' Assange: 2,000 sites now have all documents | McClatchy .::. Size~: 54.58 KB | Dec 31 14:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] The Techeye Bible - Ye BOOK of PROPHERCY of the TABLETS CHAPT. VII: http://bit.ly/eGc4es | Dec 31 14:09 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: TechEye Bible: TechEye's Tablet Prophecy - From ye Book of Tablets | TechEye .::. Size~: 27.5 KB | Dec 31 14:09 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Tsinghua University, Mozilla Launch Browser For IPv6 - http://bit.ly/gFs9ok #china leapfrogging the West? #mozilla #ipv6 | Dec 31 14:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tsinghua University, Mozilla Launch Browser For IPv6 - ChinaTechNews.com - The Technology Source for the Latest Chinese News on Internet, Computers, Digital, Science, Electronics, Law, Security, Software, Web 2.0, Telecom, and Wireless Industries .::. Size~: 59.8 KB | Dec 31 14:10 |
| *twitter (~pbj@173-17-111-185.client.mchsi.com) has joined #techrights | Dec 31 14:13 | |
| good morning | Dec 31 14:13 | |
| did you catch what PJ say about fat32 and NTFS licensing yesterday? | Dec 31 14:14 | |
| http://www.design-reuse.com/news/25240/gpl-compliant-fat32-replacement-package-for-android.html | Dec 31 14:14 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tuxera Releases GPL-Compliant FAT32 Replacement Package for Android .::. Size~: 54.8 KB | Dec 31 14:14 |
| => "Companies who have licensed FAT patents from Microsoft cannot use the publicly available GPL-licensed VFAT implementation," noted Mikko Välimäki, Tuxera CEO and recognized open source legal expert. | Dec 31 14:16 | |
| Why does Microsoft hate your software freedom? Because Microsoft can't survive if you have it. | Dec 31 14:16 | |
| schestowitz | I noticed that | Dec 31 14:17 |
| schestowitz | But I don't blog this weekend | Dec 31 14:17 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Blimey! #choqok keeps creating like 30 instances of kio_http,each weighing around 20 MB. Badly-behaving plugin? Very heavy for a reader. | Dec 31 14:17 | |
| cool | Dec 31 14:17 | |
| schestowitz | Right not I'm inspecting hearts :-) | Dec 31 14:17 |
| very cool | Dec 31 14:17 | |
| schestowitz | A friend of mine who studies medicine in Hungary (where MinceR lives) might join me later this year if we make some startup | Dec 31 14:18 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Or Ban is getting quite the reputation there | Dec 31 14:18 |
| schestowitz | But they don't agree with you about the "Nazi" part | Dec 31 14:18 |
| MinceR | perhaps they define "nazi" differently | Dec 31 14:19 |
| Tuxera should be taken with a grain of salt because they were one of the first companies to license exFAT from Microsoft. | Dec 31 14:19 | |
| MinceR | schestowitz: what reputation is he getting? | Dec 31 14:20 |
| The bit about forbidding GPL distribution was worth noting for me. | Dec 31 14:20 | |
| schestowitz | Rogue regime | Dec 31 14:20 |
| gnufreex | twitter: That is true | Dec 31 14:21 |
| gnufreex | Liberty or death clause | Dec 31 14:21 |
| gnufreex | google it. | Dec 31 14:21 |
| gnufreex | That is very reason why GPL is great. | Dec 31 14:21 |
| Yes, but what does Microsoft licensing have to do with it? | Dec 31 14:22 | |
| gnufreex | You will either use freedom and don't pay royalties, or find another software. | Dec 31 14:22 |
| It's just another case of Microsoft stomping on code they don't own. | Dec 31 14:22 | |
| gnufreex | If you pay to Microsoft, you have no bussines using GP:'d sosftware | Dec 31 14:22 |
| gnufreex | use doze | Dec 31 14:22 |
| A company might have made the mistake of licensing Microsoft for one thing. That should not prevent them from ever making a free software friendly device again. | Dec 31 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: it depends if by Nazi one refers to the type or to the German Nazi party | Dec 31 14:23 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] !lo ♺ @sixgun: We just released Linux Outlaws 183 - Darkfield Lasers (The Year 2010 in Review) http://ur1.ca/2prd6 -- Happy New Year! | Dec 31 14:24 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Linux Outlaws 183 - Darkfield Lasers (The Year 2010 in Review) — we aim to misbehave .::. Size~: 24.32 KB | Dec 31 14:24 |
| gnufreex | twitter: Well they would void licensing agreement if they give code under GPL that is patented. | Dec 31 14:24 |
| The real solution is to dump FAT and NTFS. | Dec 31 14:25 | |
| gnufreex | Yes. | Dec 31 14:25 |
| gnufreex | If they dump it, they are not violating GPL | Dec 31 14:25 |
| Tuxera was complaining about the size limitations and other problems of non patented FAT and NTFS, GPL covered code. | Dec 31 14:25 | |
| gnufreex | No matter if they licensed M$ patents before. | Dec 31 14:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Beijing opens five new metro lines in one day - http://bit.ly/gM5Esx incredible #china #2011 | Dec 31 14:25 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Beijing opens five new metro lines in one day .::. Size~: 86.32 KB | Dec 31 14:25 |
| Patent encumbered FAT and NTFS code still has problems that have been solved a lot better with free software file systems. A user is better off with ext2. | Dec 31 14:26 | |
| oiaohm | Really work around to the FAT32 and before. | Dec 31 14:26 |
| oiaohm | Don't use long and short filenames. | Dec 31 14:26 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, FAT32 short file names are not patented | Dec 31 14:27 |
| oiaohm | Already implemented in the main linux kernel. | Dec 31 14:27 |
| gnufreex | Too damn obvious | Dec 31 14:27 |
| oiaohm | What is patented is making the short filename from the long filename. | Dec 31 14:27 |
| gnufreex | only long ones are patented. | Dec 31 14:27 |
| oiaohm | No the long filename is not patented. | Dec 31 14:27 |
| gnufreex | and expires in 2017 | Dec 31 14:27 |
| all of it is ridiculous | Dec 31 14:27 | |
| oiaohm | If you have a short that is xxxxx and a long that is yyyyyyyyyyyy | Dec 31 14:27 |
| schestowitz | By 2018 there might not be Microsoft | Dec 31 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Licensing LLC | Dec 31 14:27 |
| oiaohm | for the same file its legal. gnufreex | Dec 31 14:28 |
| oiaohm | But it does lead to some windows programs throwing a hissy fit. | Dec 31 14:28 |
| MinceR | they could just use ext3 and put the Ext2IFS installer on the driver disc | Dec 31 14:28 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: huh... I thought long ones are harder. | Dec 31 14:28 |
| I'm reasonably sure Microsoft will be gone by 2018. | Dec 31 14:28 | |
| MinceR | winblows users are used to installing all sorts of drivers and apps already | Dec 31 14:28 |
| schestowitz | 8 years is a long time | Dec 31 14:28 |
| 7 | Dec 31 14:28 | |
| schestowitz | 8 years ago Google was a startup | Dec 31 14:28 |
| oiaohm | exfat is really the one one of major issue. | Dec 31 14:28 |
| 6 | Dec 31 14:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China's Ministry Of Culture To Clear Illegal Music Websites - http://bit.ly/hZeg7M but will they this time #china #music #piracy | Dec 31 14:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jwildeboer/@jwildeboer] Rumour has it that Nokia plans to release an #Android based tablet soonish. http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20101229PD207.html | Dec 31 14:29 | |
| oiaohm | fat short and long file names is more of a laugh. | Dec 31 14:29 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: China's Ministry Of Culture To Clear Illegal Music Websites - ChinaTechNews.com - The Technology Source for the Latest Chinese News on Internet, Computers, Digital, Science, Electronics, Law, Security, Software, Web 2.0, Telecom, and Wireless Industries .::. Size~: 59.48 KB | Dec 31 14:29 |
| MinceR | 5 | Dec 31 14:29 |
| 5,4,3,2,1 boom | Dec 31 14:29 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Notebook vendors seeing R&D delays for Android 3.0 tablets .::. Size~: 76.67 KB | Dec 31 14:29 |
| schestowitz | Fireworks?! | Dec 31 14:29 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: what time in Aussie? | Dec 31 14:29 |
| M$ implosion. | Dec 31 14:29 | |
| oiaohm | 12:38 am | Dec 31 14:30 |
| not really exciting to watch | Dec 31 14:30 | |
| satisfying but not so exciting. | Dec 31 14:30 | |
| schestowitz | Adelaide had it one hour ago | Dec 31 14:30 |
| gnufreex | FA(R)T was first made with short ones, IIRC. They shoehorned long ones later oiaohm | Dec 31 14:30 |
| schestowitz | amarsh04: happy 2011 | Dec 31 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Aussie west coast still due | Dec 31 14:30 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: the long ones are a warped alteration on fat volume labels. | Dec 31 14:30 |
| schestowitz | When Microsoft is over it's not over | Dec 31 14:30 |
| true | Dec 31 14:31 | |
| gnufreex | That is when it really beggins | Dec 31 14:31 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: and volume labels for fat are over 20 years old. So not patented. gnufreex | Dec 31 14:31 |
| but Microsoft is a major pain driving most others | Dec 31 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | They left a big mess in IV, Gates Fundamentalism, Ignition, and Traul Allen | Dec 31 14:31 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: Only bit left patented is the way to make the short filename from the longfilename. gnufreex | Dec 31 14:31 |
| gnufreex | twitter: Sad thing is that now all other sill pick up all their tricks. Even if Microsoft is gone. | Dec 31 14:32 |
| yes and those continue to push software patents, ACTA, etc. | Dec 31 14:32 | |
| gnufreex | They proved it can work | Dec 31 14:32 |
| schestowitz | The antisoial elements from Microsoft are just dissipated | Dec 31 14:32 |
| oiaohm | gnufreex: but if you don't care about sending some windows programs off the deep end you don't have to make them the patented way. gnufreex | Dec 31 14:32 |
| schestowitz | Like blowing up a bucket of cockroaches | Dec 31 14:32 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] One tip enough to put name on watch list - http://wapo.st/fYh2dF a step away from putting *eveyone* on the list... #securitytheatre | Dec 31 14:32 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: One tip enough to put name on watch list .::. Size~: 84.47 KB | Dec 31 14:32 |
| schestowitz | They can ensure a lot and end up in the whole neighbourhood | Dec 31 14:32 |
| schestowitz | *ensdure | Dec 31 14:32 |
| schestowitz | *endure | Dec 31 14:32 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: yeah... I got now. | Dec 31 14:33 |
| oiaohm | exfat on the other hand is a way bigger problem. | Dec 31 14:33 |
| If software patents die, the non free software complex will collapse and the roaches will have to go back outside for a living where no one will notice them. | Dec 31 14:34 | |
| oiaohm | It has some new techs. | Dec 31 14:34 |
| gnufreex | Yeah, they patented exFat recently. | Dec 31 14:34 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Audiophiles - http://bit.ly/dUVxjd oh yes... #xkcd | Dec 31 14:34 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: xkcd: Audiophiles .::. Size~: 8.1 KB | Dec 31 14:34 |
| oiaohm | And exfat got writen into a bit of hardware standard. | Dec 31 14:34 |
| Microsoft's FAT patents are part of their patent extortion against free software, something they only really got rolling around 1998 or so. | Dec 31 14:35 | |
| Bill Gate's ACPI memo is proof of that line of thought. | Dec 31 14:35 | |
| oiaohm | 2006 is when exfat came into existance as a implemented from. | Dec 31 14:36 |
| oiaohm | So 2026 before that bugger fully patent expires. | Dec 31 14:36 |
| schestowitz | They use consortia/std. bodies like host for in insect | Dec 31 14:36 |
| sure, they started making public noise much later than they were thinking. | Dec 31 14:37 | |
| schestowitz | To spread their sw seed | Dec 31 14:37 |
| gnufreex | oiaohm: In what hardware they put it? | Dec 31 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Case of point: iso and moox | Dec 31 14:37 |
| oiaohm | sdxc memory cards. gnufreex | Dec 31 14:37 |
| schestowitz | exfat must have newer patents | Dec 31 14:37 |
| schestowitz | it's the same tactic as MPEG-LA trolls | Dec 31 14:37 |
| schestowitz | Larry Horn | Dec 31 14:37 |
| oiaohm | sdxc standard filesystem is only exfat nothing else. | Dec 31 14:37 |
| gnufreex | wikipedia says exFat is propriatary patent pending standard. | Dec 31 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Bring a "newer" and "better" one once in a few years, push it as "iSO" "standard", push new patent traps | Dec 31 14:38 |
| schestowitz | H.253..4...5 | Dec 31 14:38 |
| gnufreex | so no patents yet but it will be a bunch. | Dec 31 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Even better | Dec 31 14:38 |
| schestowitz | Submarine patents | Dec 31 14:38 |
| schestowitz | So watch out.. | Dec 31 14:38 |
| Without Microsoft, there's a better chance of getting rid of software patents. | Dec 31 14:38 | |
| schestowitz | You don't know how to overcome the patents yet | Dec 31 14:38 |
| The only way to overcome them is to end enforcement. | Dec 31 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | Now they add copyright tax to Linux too | Dec 31 14:39 |
| schestowitz | Not with SCO | Dec 31 14:39 |
| schestowitz | With the French govt. | Dec 31 14:39 |
| schestowitz | And MAFIAA | Dec 31 14:39 |
| gnufreex | Does anyone know for sure if this is real interview: http://www.cantrip.org/nobugs.html | Dec 31 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: FOCUS Magazine Interview with Bill Gates: Microsoft Code Has No Bugs .::. Size~: 13.57 KB | Dec 31 14:39 |
| Freedom tax. | Dec 31 14:39 | |
| schestowitz | Their same old cartel games.. http://is.gd/jPyzO http://bit.ly/e3tlYJ | Dec 31 14:39 |
| gnufreex | Some claim it is fake. | Dec 31 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - Why We Need WikiLeaks .::. Size~: 123.86 KB | Dec 31 14:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Twitter / Dr. Roy Schestowitz: "There is very grave dange ... .::. Size~: 13.09 KB | Dec 31 14:39 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the french gov one is interesting. | Dec 31 14:40 |
| schestowitz | More taxes | Dec 31 14:40 |
| schestowitz | To ensure nothing is free | Dec 31 14:40 |
| oiaohm | If android ever appears on laptops as a default OS magically over night all android devices would no longer have to pay the tax. | Dec 31 14:40 |
| schestowitz | The only way for Microsoft to survive | Dec 31 14:41 |
| schestowitz | MarkS said so ages ago | Dec 31 14:41 |
| I'm amazed France has not gotten rid of "Le American" yet. | Dec 31 14:41 | |
| they must have implemented Microsoft based electronic voting. | Dec 31 14:41 | |
| oiaohm | When the rule was writen smart phones did not exist. twitter | Dec 31 14:41 |
| schestowitz | THey have their "inside foxes" there | Dec 31 14:41 |
| oiaohm | twitter: at least not the way we know them today. | Dec 31 14:41 |
| oiaohm | Basically normal badly written goverment laws. | Dec 31 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Like in almost every government (which has not been overthrown... yet) | Dec 31 14:42 |
| schestowitz | Sarko has mates at Microsoft | Dec 31 14:42 |
| schestowitz | And he's not alone | Dec 31 14:42 |
| Software and business methods are not just bad laws, they are bad ideas. | Dec 31 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | Doesn't matter | Dec 31 14:42 |
| schestowitz | If a company with lobbyists gain from it, this will pass | Dec 31 14:42 |
| schestowitz | See bailout | Dec 31 14:42 |
| schestowitz | It doesn't need to make sense | Dec 31 14:42 |
| schestowitz | it need to make MONEY | Dec 31 14:42 |
| Sarko has crapped on pension plans, working hours and all sorts of other things that made France a nice place to live. | Dec 31 14:42 | |
| schestowitz | Same in the UK | Dec 31 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Which is so strange as both countries are former exploiters with colonies | Dec 31 14:43 |
| schestowitz | Now China is the sleeping giant | Dec 31 14:43 |
| schestowitz | twitter: how's the US? | Dec 31 14:43 |
| worse than ever. | Dec 31 14:43 | |
| schestowitz | "Living in America"(R) | Dec 31 14:43 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: China is more often than not a sleeping giant | Dec 31 14:44 |
| schestowitz | The land of opportunity | Dec 31 14:44 |
| oiaohm | Threw out it history. | Dec 31 14:44 |
| schestowitz | "Give me your poor"... I'm not sure even the poor wants to go there now | Dec 31 14:44 |
| oiaohm | So being a sleeping giant is nothing strange to china. | Dec 31 14:44 |
| oiaohm | Now bligerent sleeping giant that would be a problem. | Dec 31 14:44 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: like the Chinese dragon | Dec 31 14:45 |
| The US resembles Communist China more every day. | Dec 31 14:45 | |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: maybe they'll buy the nukes off Putin.. | Dec 31 14:45 |
| schestowitz | As deterrent to Palin, US president 2012-2020 | Dec 31 14:45 |
| oiaohm | Why would china need nukes | Dec 31 14:45 |
| oiaohm | They have money to buy what ever they want. | Dec 31 14:45 |
| schestowitz | But.. | Dec 31 14:45 |
| schestowitz | The US has leverage | Dec 31 14:45 |
| oiaohm | Really? | Dec 31 14:46 |
| schestowitz | Increasingly the CHinese can be assertive | Dec 31 14:46 |
| schestowitz | They can dump the USD | Dec 31 14:46 |
| schestowitz | And Euro | Dec 31 14:46 |
| schestowitz | So they hold the EU and the US by the balls too | Dec 31 14:46 |
| yes | Dec 31 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | Export is what makes them rely on the latter | Dec 31 14:46 |
| schestowitz | So here you have two blokes groping each others' balls | Dec 31 14:46 |
| schestowitz | And nobody wants to pull | Dec 31 14:46 |
| oiaohm | Has anyone not noticed that the USA dollar and AUD are kinda equal at the moment. | Dec 31 14:46 |
| oiaohm | this is not historically normal. | Dec 31 14:46 |
| not so much now because the US has crushing debts to China. | Dec 31 14:46 | |
| schestowitz | But if China also had military power/deterrent, then the US can no longer impose things like ACTA on CHina | Dec 31 14:47 |
| oiaohm | Yet as the USD dropped our products here did not get cheaper. | Dec 31 14:47 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, yes it's very close to equal | Dec 31 14:47 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: ture | Dec 31 14:47 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: cheap to travel in the US now, I guess | Dec 31 14:47 |
| The US can "impose" ACTA on China but China will blow it off internally. | Dec 31 14:47 | |
| oiaohm | At the rate it changing I think I will wait until next year. | Dec 31 14:47 |
| oiaohm | To go to the USA | Dec 31 14:47 |
| oiaohm | Since by then I should be able to get 1.5 for my 1. | Dec 31 14:48 |
| schestowitz | C'mon | Dec 31 14:48 |
| schestowitz | They have TSA | Dec 31 14:48 |
| schestowitz | Free sex at the airporn | Dec 31 14:48 |
| you misspelled rape | Dec 31 14:48 | |
| schestowitz | With some disgusting men | Dec 31 14:48 |
| schestowitz | They wear blue gloves | Dec 31 14:49 |
| oiaohm | I have access to private jet or might decide for the fun of it to go cargo boat. | Dec 31 14:49 |
| oiaohm | Yep both avoid the scanner. | Dec 31 14:49 |
| schestowitz | biometric too? | Dec 31 14:49 |
| oiaohm | biometric the finger print shit. you can avoid to a point. | Dec 31 14:50 |
| oiaohm | Depends what airport you land on. | Dec 31 14:50 |
| There is a lot of damage to undo here in the US but the elimination of Microsoft and broadcast will fix a lot of it. | Dec 31 14:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] can any #mozilla people tell me what this work in China was about, please? - http://bit.ly/gFs9ok sounds interesting... #ipv6 | Dec 31 14:50 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Tsinghua University, Mozilla Launch Browser For IPv6 - ChinaTechNews.com - The Technology Source for the Latest Chinese News on Internet, Computers, Digital, Science, Electronics, Law, Security, Software, Web 2.0, Telecom, and Wireless Industries .::. Size~: 59.8 KB | Dec 31 14:50 |
| Broadcast was how big companies manipulated public opinion in their favor. | Dec 31 14:51 | |
| The consolidation of publishing is exactly why so many rights have vanished in the US over the last decade. | Dec 31 14:52 | |
| oiaohm | We are currently up to 15 free to air channels here. | Dec 31 14:52 |
| oiaohm | And growing. | Dec 31 14:52 |
| schestowitz | GE+Microsoft+Comcast='news' | Dec 31 14:53 |
| The web is just starting to counter broadcast but broadcast will have its power until everyone realizes that "mainstream" is not majority opinion anymore. | Dec 31 14:53 | |
| schestowitz | Fox for the leftist | Dec 31 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Concentrating on white vs vanilla | Dec 31 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Never the class issue or liberty | Dec 31 14:53 |
| oiaohm | Our biggest saving grace here is media watch. | Dec 31 14:53 |
| schestowitz | Democracy Now addresses the right issues | Dec 31 14:53 |
| Yes, they do good work. | Dec 31 14:54 | |
| schestowitz | Climate | Dec 31 14:54 |
| There are many other good sites. | Dec 31 14:54 | |
| oiaohm | ABC the goverment own channel runs a program called media watch that picks up when a channel is straight up lieing and advertises it. | Dec 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Happen vs not happening | Dec 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Fake debate too | Dec 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz | Real one is severe versus moderate | Dec 31 14:54 |
| schestowitz | That's the debate among real scientists | Dec 31 14:54 |
| oiaohm | Now what happens here is fun. Because now the other channels try to do the reverse in ABC | Dec 31 14:54 |
| The good thing is that broadcast is more obviously fake now. People can see it. | Dec 31 14:55 | |
| oiaohm | Basically we have media companies juding each other. | Dec 31 14:55 |
| oiaohm | In the public media. | Dec 31 14:56 |
| schestowitz | And then there's the need to expose the media corruption like foxgate which shows that media too is the problem | Dec 31 14:56 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: and Huff and Puff | Dec 31 14:56 |
| oiaohm | Media corruption exposes happen here all the time. | Dec 31 14:56 |
| Corporate controlled media always has it's fake debates, that's the manufacturing consent model. | Dec 31 14:56 | |
| schestowitz | Toby says the role of Huff it to amplify Fox for example | Dec 31 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Not address issues but instead play the sport | Dec 31 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Tabloid | Dec 31 14:56 |
| The web brings real, outside analysis to the table. | Dec 31 14:56 | |
| oiaohm | We have 4 commerical media companies here all independant. | Dec 31 14:56 |
| oiaohm | And 1 goverment. | Dec 31 14:56 |
| schestowitz | in the US 9 | Dec 31 14:56 |
| schestowitz | Will be 3 soon | Dec 31 14:56 |
| oiaohm | How many are truly independant. | Dec 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz | If the Australian who thinks lying is journalism gets his way there | Dec 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz | The other day I met someone who defended Fox | Dec 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz | I asked ehy | Dec 31 14:57 |
| Westinghouse, GE, Disney and Microsoft are all nominally independent. | Dec 31 14:57 | |
| schestowitz | Answer was something along the lines of, "it's good for our side" | Dec 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz | So people no longer care about the truth | Dec 31 14:57 |
| schestowitz | They want what feels good | Dec 31 14:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that Australian left Australia because he did not like the Australian media system. | Dec 31 14:58 |
| schestowitz | The media gives them flavours for that | Dec 31 14:58 |
| *cubezzz plays a Devo record | Dec 31 14:58 | |
| Let me dig up a good description of "manufacturing consent" Chompsky described the scam very well decades ago. | Dec 31 14:58 | |
| oiaohm | We have strict control on media ownership. | Dec 31 14:58 |
| schestowitz | Neither offers truth as that challenges the companies which utilise this media | Dec 31 14:58 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: maybe it was harder to corrupt/manipulate | Dec 31 14:58 |
| schestowitz | He also wants to get Sky now in the UK | Dec 31 14:58 |
| schestowitz | I like how Sky was blasted by George Galloway | Dec 31 14:59 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: ruped merdock spent 3 years in jail here. | Dec 31 14:59 |
| schestowitz | And he mentioned Murdoch too | Dec 31 14:59 |
| oiaohm | For trying to corrupt media. | Dec 31 14:59 |
| http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&pwst=1&&sa=X&ei=gu8dTYDUK4eglAfVtv23DA&ved=0CBoQvwUoAQ&q=manufacturing+consent&spell=1 | Dec 31 14:59 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: manufacturing consent - Google Search .::. Size~: 72.24 KB | Dec 31 14:59 |
| oiaohm | Guess why he left. | Dec 31 14:59 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: really? | Dec 31 14:59 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: got URL? | Dec 31 14:59 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Dec 31 14:59 |
| schestowitz | Was this the allegation too? | Dec 31 14:59 |
| oiaohm | He never got formally charged. | Dec 31 15:00 |
| schestowitz | But he was in jail | Dec 31 15:00 |
| schestowitz | So charged and convicted for something | Dec 31 15:00 |
| oiaohm | He got being kept in jail for being a possible flight risk to avoid charges. | Dec 31 15:00 |
| here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent:_The_Political_Economy_of_the_Mass_Media | Dec 31 15:00 | |
| schestowitz | Well, the US also harbours people who blew planed IIRC | Dec 31 15:00 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 53.76 KB | Dec 31 15:00 |
| schestowitz | Like that guy from Cuba | Dec 31 15:00 |
| oiaohm | Yep as soon as they let him out he was gone. | Dec 31 15:00 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's OK for the US to have Rupe | Dec 31 15:00 |
| schestowitz | "It's not a crime if it's handy to us" | Dec 31 15:01 |
| schestowitz | They groomed many former Nazis too | Dec 31 15:01 |
| Fake debates and their goals are well described by Chompsky. | Dec 31 15:01 | |
| schestowitz | People like Von Braun | Dec 31 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Problem is the USA did not get packer as well. | Dec 31 15:01 |
| schestowitz | twitter: why do you say it like A Roy does? | Dec 31 15:01 |
| oiaohm | Packer and Murdock use to offset each other schestowitz | Dec 31 15:01 |
| cubezzz | oh that reminds me... | Dec 31 15:01 |
| schestowitz | Chompsky | Dec 31 15:01 |
| cubezzz | I saw chomsky on broadcast tv a while back | Dec 31 15:02 |
| cubezzz | on TVO | Dec 31 15:02 |
| oiaohm | And most of the USA people were too money gready to workout out what Murdock was upto. | Dec 31 15:02 |
| oiaohm | Packer and Murdock had bought up in a buying war here as much media as they were legally allowed. | Dec 31 15:02 |
| schestowitz | twitter: you wanna watch this video http://is.gd/jJ91K | Dec 31 15:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: YouTube - MERRY X-MAS EVERYBODY!! .::. Size~: 144.03 KB | Dec 31 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Saving grace for australia Murdock left and Packers son is a idiot. schestowitz | Dec 31 15:03 |
| cubezzz | so are things improving or getting worse? | Dec 31 15:03 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's not just an Australian problem | Dec 31 15:03 |
| oiaohm | Or media is working fine. | Dec 31 15:03 |
| schestowitz | I just switch off the radio when I wake up if they start talking | Dec 31 15:03 |
| schestowitz | Usually it's classical music | Dec 31 15:04 |
| hmmm, that wikipedia article is not so good. better to get Chompsky from Chompsky. | Dec 31 15:04 | |
| oiaohm | radio here is far more open. | Dec 31 15:04 |
| schestowitz | It's when they start talking that I get off bed to switch the propaganda off | Dec 31 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Thinking it costs bugger all to setup a local radio station. | Dec 31 15:04 |
| schestowitz | There's nothing more compelling to make one get up early | Dec 31 15:04 |
| oiaohm | Yes I mean bugger all. | Dec 31 15:04 |
| oiaohm | No licence fees for under a particular range. | Dec 31 15:04 |
| schestowitz | twitter: chomsky.info | Dec 31 15:05 |
| oiaohm | And the particular range is 100 kms | Dec 31 15:05 |
| schestowitz | He used to worry about Stalin worship in the 50s... I sometimes see it 50 years later, as well | Dec 31 15:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ♻ @lxoliva: Happy #GNU Year, everyone! | Dec 31 15:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] AG Dominic Grieve - "concern over arrest media coverage" http://bbc.in/eh0qGB where's the same concern for #Assange? #hypocrite | Dec 31 15:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] My Public Enemy discography (17 Albums) is going to take 15 hours to Scrobble to !lastfm 0.o | Dec 31 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @schestowitz: It is quite saddening to see how corporations that exploit GNU have groomed Linux instead, leaving Stallman in the dark | Dec 31 15:07 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @WhosLobbying ACOBA has banned Peter Mandelson from lobbying ministers & civil servants for two years: http://j.mp/hS5mJQ #lobbying >>fab | Dec 31 15:10 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Arch-networker Peter Mandelson banned from lobbying: No Blair-style cashing in for next two years, say MPs | Mail Online .::. Size~: 73.91 KB | Dec 31 15:10 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @glynmoody if only he didn't have private emails, phone numbers etc | Dec 31 15:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @mvalente I'll be the killjoy and come out and say it: 2011 wont be a happy new year. Stop deluding yourselves. | Dec 31 15:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @thistleweb @glynmoody he monetises his "connections" now, just like Tony | Dec 31 15:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @russellmcormond: RT @CopyrightLaw: “Piracy Isn't The Problem, A Bad Business Model Is The Problem” http://bit.ly/h0QaEo | Dec 31 15:27 | |
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| hmmm, that "merry Christmas" video was sad. It's good to see disappointment over loss of rights but fighting the problems in a productive way should make people happy. | Dec 31 15:28 | |
| I'd be depressed like that if I watched TV too. | Dec 31 15:28 | |
| That's why I don't waste much time watching TV or reading "mainstream" news. | Dec 31 15:29 | |
| Outside of broadcast, there's a lot of good opinion and change going on. | Dec 31 15:29 | |
| abeNd-org | heh, who has the time? :P | Dec 31 15:30 |
| broadcast wastes more than the time it takes to watch it, it wastes cognitive dissidence time. | Dec 31 15:30 | |
| the message is so nonsensical that it makes people deeply unhappy | Dec 31 15:31 | |
| every lie takes lots of time to unwind but the task is impossible given corporate sources | Dec 31 15:32 | |
| abeNd-org | which is why many people give up on it & just concentrate on their own lives, not that they could make a change to the world anyways | Dec 31 15:33 |
| corporate media would love for everyone to give up and take what they dish out, but that's not the answer. | Dec 31 15:35 | |
| people can make changes in their local community and spread their ideas globally | Dec 31 15:35 | |
| abeNd-org | meh, ive tried to help out my local community, they didnt want the help | Dec 31 15:36 |
| abeNd-org | "f'em" | Dec 31 15:36 |
| fighting for change can be frustrating but it is always better than doing nothing | Dec 31 15:36 | |
| abeNd-org | or they see you are willing to try, so they just dump everything on you until you burnout & quit | Dec 31 15:37 |
| groups can be organized and you can donate your specialty to groups that already exist | Dec 31 15:37 | |
| abeNd-org | im broke, i donate time | Dec 31 15:37 |
| The more people that work for change, the easier it gets. | Dec 31 15:37 | |
| It helps to live in a community that already has a lot going on. | Dec 31 15:38 | |
| I now live in a place that has so many problems that any change will be difficult. | Dec 31 15:39 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @satipera Sorry, all saints sound alike to me so I didn't get it... Now point out it's an @rms laugh... Saint i-GNU-cius ... i do. | Dec 31 15:39 | |
| But that just means that changes are more desperately needed and small progress will be a significant change. | Dec 31 15:39 | |
| I hope to leverage the good examples I've seen and gain cooperation from the people doing the good work. | Dec 31 15:40 | |
| For instance, Tacoma has a great public utility that owns a municipal network. I'd like to inform local government about that success story and see if I can't get local universities to make a co-op program for students. | Dec 31 15:43 | |
| There are a lot of road blocks but those go away in view of a good working example. | Dec 31 15:44 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz I was referring that IT has become a den of thieves and swindlers, without religious connotations. | Dec 31 15:45 | |
| abeNd-org | perhaps i am bitter, but no one wants to donate time, & all the organizations expect you to work crazy hours for free | Dec 31 15:46 |
| change takes time, you have to accomplish what you can with what you have. | Dec 31 15:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz But, it's something alike Jesus said about Jerusalem's temple, in his times. | Dec 31 15:47 | |
| the idea is to not give up, to make the contacts you need and to keep working | Dec 31 15:47 | |
| get together with your neighbors wherever they meet and see what they need help with and what's worth your time. | Dec 31 15:49 | |
| there's always something going on | Dec 31 15:49 | |
| and you should establish and promote a local mail list for free software users | Dec 31 15:49 | |
| schestowitz | [15:30] <twitter> broadcast wastes more than the time it takes to watch it, it wastes cognitive dissidence time. | Dec 31 15:56 |
| schestowitz | Since the emergence of PR for consumerism in particular | Dec 31 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Creating irrational wants and needs using means of jealousy, sex, fears, etc. | Dec 31 15:57 |
| schestowitz | Fox uses it for political manipulation for example | Dec 31 15:58 |
| schestowitz | Some use it to drive sales by promising people a feeling of adequacy | Dec 31 15:58 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] @fabsh "The hair is all wrong", Talk about an understatement lol! :D | Dec 31 15:59 | |
| schestowitz | I have not really watched a full-length TV show _on TV_ probably for half a year now | Dec 31 15:59 |
| schestowitz | When I see a TV on I often just switch that off, they rarely have something of value on | Dec 31 16:00 |
| schestowitz | I can see why checking the weather might be of immediate use for like 5 seconds | Dec 31 16:00 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] ♻ @eightyeight why you shouldn't be using a task killer with android http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/ | Dec 31 16:00 | |
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| schestowitz | Nobody tries to sell something with weather (unlike climate claims), so there's signal there, no umbrella companies | Dec 31 16:01 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Poll: Open*Life 2010 best images | http://bit.ly/f3Ahpw #privacy #crowdsource #iphone #openvideo #grammy #cooking | Dec 31 16:02 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Happy New Year from !Beijing, !China (GMT+8) | Dec 31 16:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith other people wrote that from memory well after his time (if he existed), so authenticity is doubted, too | Dec 31 16:05 | |
| schestowitz | twitter: have you,watched that YouTube rant I recommended? | Dec 31 16:07 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zeusoftweb/status/20860075652419586 | Dec 31 16:07 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @zeusoftweb: @schestowitz Happy New Year to you and Techrights :) | Dec 31 16:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] @richslxh A bit yeah.... Unfortunately there hasn't been a Bond villian with dreadlocks.... yet. Maybe I should call MGM. ;) | Dec 31 16:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @ninapaley: Happy Last Day of 2010! Mimi and Eunice: The Last Panel http://j.mp/hJvItl | Dec 31 16:19 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Yes, but the meaning here is what I'm noting, it has nothing to do with the subject "Jesus", the myth or the true one. | Dec 31 16:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz But the sad state IT is plunged into. | Dec 31 16:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @agentsmith cartel | Dec 31 16:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Off to the James Bond party. http://ur1.ca/2przw | Dec 31 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Freshwater wildlife thrives in cleanest rivers since Industrial Revolution - http://bit.ly/eFxqFI environmental protection *works* | Dec 31 16:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @schestowitz Or a Mafia(mobsters) family... | Dec 31 16:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] I'm not where I want to be, and there's nothing I can do about it. This sucks :/ | Dec 31 16:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @ninapaley: Happy Last Day of 2010! Mimi and Eunice: The Last Panel http://j.mp/hJvItl | Dec 31 16:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Bradley Manning/Wikileaks Timeline - http://bit.ly/g8QB1k v useful (via @evgenymorozov) #manning #wikileaks | Dec 31 16:39 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bradley Manning/Wikileaks Timeline | Firedoglake .::. Size~: 48.03 KB | Dec 31 16:39 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @leaklinks #Bradley #Manning #Wikileaks Timeline @Firedoglake http://bit.ly/i34lwo @savebradley #savemanning | Dec 31 16:40 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bradley Manning/Wikileaks Timeline | Firedoglake .::. Size~: 48.03 KB | Dec 31 16:40 |
| Yes, Roy, I watched the rant. This is why I was talking about positive change. The ranter was angry because he was discouraged and that is sad. | Dec 31 16:43 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] It's confirmed: next year will be 2011 (previous year +1), the algorithm seems pretty solid so far. And patent unencumbered AFAICT | Dec 31 16:44 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Don't let it make you miserable. Enjoy what's good and work on changing what you can. | Dec 31 16:44 | |
| The ranter did not mention the terrible things that the US is doing to people abroad. | Dec 31 16:46 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] RT @carlopiana confirmed: next year will be 2011 (previous year +1), the algorithm seems pretty solid so far. & patent unencumbered AFAICT | Dec 31 16:47 | |
| You can see how people tormented him for what he did say. The comments are filled with idiotic bile. | Dec 31 16:47 | |
| His state of mind is what the rich and powerful want to inflict on anyone who questions them. | Dec 31 16:48 | |
| His voiced complaint is that people in the US are cowards and their fear has been used to strip them of rights. He's also angry at US propaganda that was driven into him through schools. His particular indoctrination sounds worse than most. | Dec 31 16:51 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] Tekk's law of identica: if its redented once it will be redented 3 times(redent once please, I love irony =P) | Dec 31 16:52 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Just over 6 hours to go until 2011 !! (GMT+1) How time flies! | Dec 31 16:52 | |
| Today, I'm moving to a new laptop. It's just like my last one but four times as fast. | Dec 31 16:53 | |
| from X30 to X60 | Dec 31 16:53 | |
| the downside is ACPI and non free firmware for the wireless. | Dec 31 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @tekk Tekk's law of identica: if its redented once it will be redented 3 times(redent once please, I love irony =P) | Dec 31 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] :D | Dec 31 16:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] << i don't *always* do what I'm told... in fact... hmmm. Better get some coffee :\ | Dec 31 16:54 | |
| I will replace the wireless. | Dec 31 16:54 | |
| and I'll see if I can live with ACPI. | Dec 31 16:54 | |
| I'm also moving to Debian testing. | Dec 31 16:54 | |
| This will be quite a leap. | Dec 31 16:55 | |
| There are several challenges with testing. UID for devices are a real pain, for example. | Dec 31 16:56 | |
| I like LVM and the way encryption works but it is complicated. | Dec 31 16:56 | |
| a move away from Unix simplicity. | Dec 31 16:56 | |
| perhaps I'll figure it out and like it. | Dec 31 16:57 | |
| Network Manager is another trouble spot of complexity. | Dec 31 16:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] kortaste svaret på din fråga: jag blev kär | Dec 31 16:57 | |
| more to learn | Dec 31 16:57 | |
| Microsoft has succeeded in pushing WEP and WAP complexity onto networks and Network Manager is an answer. | Dec 31 16:58 | |
| another answer is to stick to simple dhcp or even .... manual configuration of /etc/network/interfaces | Dec 31 16:58 | |
| finally, the "configurationless" xorg is troublesome. when it works, it's great. When it does not, it's very hard to fix.. | Dec 31 16:59 | |
| ugh its | Dec 31 16:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] 2008: U.S. Army Counterintelligence designates !WikiLeaks an “enemy"⇒ways to destroy WL reputation & efficacy http://ur1.ca/2ps5h !cablegate | Dec 31 17:00 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | SSL certificate problem, verify that the CA cert is OK. Details: | Dec 31 17:00 |
| The X30 had rock solid APM instead of ACPI and other cool stuff. | Dec 31 17:01 | |
| no Windows key. I'm going to hate trying to hit the alt and ctrl key now that they are even smaller than ordinary keys because Microsoft spammed IBM into it. An IBM rep told me there was a big email campaign that ended right after IBM announced they would have a Windows key but before the new laptops shipped. | Dec 31 17:03 | |
| Lenovo has not undone the mistake | Dec 31 17:03 | |
| MinceR | i find an extra modifier key to be useful | Dec 31 17:04 |
| MinceR | especially since i can expect applications to not need it for their shortcuts | Dec 31 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good ideas for a few easy weekend (like now) projects - http://ur1.ca/2ps7m #fb | Dec 31 17:05 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Dec 31 17:05 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Life top 10 posts of 2010: No. 1 - Five open source alternatives to the iPad | http://bit.ly/ccVhjM | Dec 31 17:07 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five open source alternatives to the iPad | opensource.com .::. Size~: 83.17 KB | Dec 31 17:07 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @reality Going to leave Mint running on this computer to troll family. I wonder if they would even notice the difference. | Dec 31 17:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @opensourceway Open*Life top 10 posts of 2010: No. 1 - Five open source alternatives to the iPad | http://bit.ly/ccVhjM | Dec 31 17:19 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Five open source alternatives to the iPad | opensource.com .::. Size~: 83.17 KB | Dec 31 17:19 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Evil @opensourcegeek. http://ur1.ca/2psa8 | Dec 31 17:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] Someone in Ghent for New Year's eve? | Dec 31 17:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] RT @evan Federated Social Web: Top 10 of 2010 http://ur1.ca/2ps87 #fsw #2010 #top10 | Dec 31 17:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @evan Federated Social Web: Top 10 of 2010 http://ur1.ca/2ps87 #fsw #2010 #top10 | Dec 31 17:24 | |
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| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/20882967710670848 | Dec 31 17:24 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @schestowitz @thistleweb sadly that's what ex-politicians do... | Dec 31 17:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @glynmoody to evade the lobbying ban,Mandy could 'pull a Murdoch'(who spent 3 years in jail)&move 2 a country where his power is unmonitored | Dec 31 17:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Junk food now even more dangerous: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/fast-food-health_b_800297.html | Dec 31 17:29 | |
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| The problem is not having the extra key, the problem is that they keys being unusably small when too many are added. | Dec 31 17:36 | |
| Your chances of touch typing the right key are vanishingly small as they keys are. | Dec 31 17:37 | |
| I don't need or want the Windows keys. | Dec 31 17:37 | |
| If my laptop was larger, I might find a use for it. | Dec 31 17:38 | |
| As things are, I'd rather they keys do nothing than have that something do things when I'm looking for alt or ctrl | Dec 31 17:39 | |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/12/31/year-2011-thoughts/ | Dec 31 17:39 |
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| schestowitz | [16:46] <twitter> The ranter did not mention the terrible things that the US is doing to people abroad. | Dec 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I noticed | Dec 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Nothing about the content of foreign policy leaks for example | Dec 31 17:40 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm I'm trying, but right now I am not finding much of anything being good enough to actually enjoy | Dec 31 17:40 | |
| schestowitz | But that's part of the indoctrination he did not refer to, not properly at least | Dec 31 17:40 |
| schestowitz | Today's experiments done too... http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2010/12/31/heart-rotates-and-tracked/ | Dec 31 17:43 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Here’s to a Freer 2011 http://is.gd/jQDb2 also an explanation regarding my de-emphasis on !techrights as of late. !tb | Dec 31 17:50 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard try basics: do you have chocolate? (good esp. dark chocolate... good FOR you, tastes good... endorphins) or other favorite food | Dec 31 17:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Or what about weather? If you've got snow, look up and admire it sparkling on the rooftops? Wildlife can be very diverting. | Dec 31 17:55 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Or funny books/movies ..."Chicken Run" *always* makes me smile or "Mickey Blue Eyes" ... Carl Hiaasen's black comedy novels r good | Dec 31 17:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard But my secret weapon against melancholia is music... you can get some great music on jamendo.com ... i'd recommend my 2 "finds" | Dec 31 17:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard ...Aló Django's amazing ( http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/61449 ) and you can't go wrong with @Allison_Crowe ⇒allisoncrowe.com | Dec 31 18:02 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Download this album for free: Swing and dance! - Jamendo .::. Size~: 119.9 KB | Dec 31 18:02 |
| wow, it's nice to see the Hufington Post catch on to endocrine disruptors and warn people away from fast food wrappers and non stick cooking | Dec 31 18:06 | |
| shame they used Bong to find his articles. | Dec 31 18:06 | |
| the script barfed even netsurf | Dec 31 18:07 | |
| He comes close by mentioning that the truth is easy to find => schestowitz: Nothing about the content of foreign policy leaks for example | Dec 31 18:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] @laurelrusswurm Django is one of my favorites, Franco Nero was gr8 on it. | Dec 31 18:09 | |
| if only it were so easy | Dec 31 18:09 | |
| schestowitz | Nothing is nice about the Huff and Puff | Dec 31 18:09 |
| schestowitz | But it's a platform | Dec 31 18:09 |
| schestowitz | They import some stuff that's of use *sometimes* | Dec 31 18:10 |
| the author was a physician, that's nice. | Dec 31 18:10 | |
| schestowitz | People then attribute it to the lady who married oil | Dec 31 18:10 |
| Huff and Puff has a grip on people's minds. Like all big publishers, they are losing that grip, but the grip is still there because most people have not discovered news readers and expert bloggers as a more trustworthy and verifiable news source. | Dec 31 18:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] Hey, !elmdentica users... I'm changing it to use Azy, an EFL jsonrpc library and that makes web calls asynchronous! | Dec 31 18:12 | |
| The old truism was that the average American spent 15 minutes on news per day. The internet has increased that by offering a source of news worth reading. | Dec 31 18:12 | |
| links to actual publications by government and science are like magic | Dec 31 18:13 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Best of Open*Government 2010 - Why Open Source and Open Standards are Essential to Combat Global Climate Change | http://bit.ly/cx5h84 | Dec 31 18:17 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] @laurelrusswurm thanks :) I actually think your very efforts are cheering me up ^^ what I probably need the most is rest, but will try music | Dec 31 18:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @JulieeJohnsonn: RT @bartbonte: 2011 is Loading ██████████████████ 99 % | Dec 31 18:22 | |
| schestowitz | http://gateskeepers.civiblog.org/blog/_archives/2010/10/18/4658575.html | Dec 31 18:22 |
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| schestowitz | PR | Dec 31 18:22 |
| schestowitz | They employed the same speech writer as Clintons | Dec 31 18:22 |
| schestowitz | Everything for PR | Dec 31 18:23 |
| schestowitz | [18:13] <twitter> links to actual publications by government and science are like magic | Dec 31 18:23 |
| schestowitz | twitter: Assange calls it "Scientific journalism" | Dec 31 18:23 |
| schestowitz | Where sources of claims are actually traceable or linked | Dec 31 18:24 |
| schestowitz | No basic truisms with assumptions unquestions | Dec 31 18:24 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 SF Snob? Why? I read damned near everything, including things that freak people out like 'Evolution vs Creationism' | Dec 31 18:24 | |
| schestowitz | E.e. "blah blah... because Linux is hard to use... blah blah.... Bill Gates is donating so much money to good causes" | Dec 31 18:24 |
| schestowitz | "Because Iraq possesses weapons of mass destructions... blah blah..... we are the land of the free and home of the brave" | Dec 31 18:25 |
| schestowitz | *ction | Dec 31 18:25 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @LadyRockLaura: I haven't had this giddy feeling in over 3 years! question: how on earth did people flirt before texting came along? ;) | Dec 31 18:25 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @themadhatter RT @JulieeJohnsonn: RT @bartbonte: 2011 is Loading ██████████████████ 99 % | Dec 31 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @Mimi_Ignatieff: Happy New Year, Daddy!! Get ready for a spring election, bitches!! #iambreakinginyournewofficeuntilyougetback | Dec 31 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @wildcard Yes, rest is REALLY good. Everything can seem much worse when our personal resources are stretched by exhaustion. | Dec 31 18:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm To understand what the 'Industry' is trying to do by calling copying 'Piracy" you need to read Griftopia - | Dec 31 18:29 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] The new year's almost here. Did you use #CC in 2010? Give back - donate now & ensure a bright 2011 for @creativecommons http://bit.ly/9BUJjn | Dec 31 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @laurelrusswurm To understand what the 'Industry' is trying to do by calling copying Piracy you need to read Griftopia: http://bit.ly/eSbIQC | Dec 31 18:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @susiemccray ♺ @SexCigarsBooze Everyone seems normal until you get to know them. << so true! :D | Dec 31 18:30 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!! | Dec 31 18:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith Aló Django makes me smile... great music, but i especially love they use the dancing feet as a musical instrument | Dec 31 18:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter I have a pretty good idea unfortunately. | Dec 31 18:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter It's taken me half a year to NOT be finished Cryptonomicon ... I haven't even cracked the new Michael Gruber not looked for... | Dec 31 18:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] RT @heeed Ha, GSM busted wide open by using 4 cheap mobiles and sine open source software: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12094227 !lo | Dec 31 18:37 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @themadhatter ... the new Carl Hiaasen ... so reading Griftopia will have to wait until after >my< novel is done. *sigh* <not enough time> | Dec 31 18:39 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[sagarun/@sagarun] It is a new year here in India. Happy new year everyone~ | Dec 31 18:50 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @agentsmith World War !Wikileaks http://worldwarwiki.wordpress.com/ !cablegate #freebradley #freebyron #freeEfren | Dec 31 18:52 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Hmmm Sabayon page at Distrowatch not available | Dec 31 18:57 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Its funny to see Tux being used in so many of those "Funny pictures" !linux | Dec 31 19:05 | |
| Happy New Year, everyone in India. | Dec 31 19:10 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Source Contribution #Etiquette - http://bit.ly/euRmTs important point from someone who knows what he's talking about #opensource | Dec 31 19:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Hey guess what, its 1/1/11 :) | Dec 31 19:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[richslxh/@richslxh] Off out now, so an early Happy New Year! to @support and Groups !identicurse !linux !debian !crunchbang !lastfm Have a gr8 one everybody :D | Dec 31 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[w3c/@w3c] Get ready for HTML5 Graphics: Start the new year learning SVG - Early bird rate expiring soon!! http://ow.ly/1aG3i9 | Dec 31 19:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Interesting http://bbc.in/i0EkgU mobile calls apparently easily listened in on with cheap phones and FOSS firmware | Dec 31 19:27 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Get ready for HTML5 Graphics: Start the new year learning SVG - Early bird rate expiring soon!! - W3C Blog .::. Size~: 10.49 KB | Dec 31 19:27 |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reasons to be Cheerful - http://bit.ly/eyp4IO "what makes my neighbour happier without damaging me makes my world a better place." #hny | Dec 31 19:35 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Wow. Busy week, now have three days off..... | Dec 31 19:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is fabsh with 162 dents! | Dec 31 19:56 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] Techeye Bible: Ye book of Revelation of Novell - http://bit.ly/f7tFfm - missed this when first published. | Dec 31 19:59 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] This firework will burn as spectacularly as our Constitution did http://ur1.ca/2pt4k #wtf #douchebag !wl | Dec 31 19:59 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Gwibber identi.ca messages were talking up 587 MB of my 8GB netbook SSD | Dec 31 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] Taking up | Dec 31 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @gamaral: some say "open source, open minds", I prefer "free tacos, free burritos" its more transcendental ;) #fsf #gnu | Dec 31 20:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Friday's security update http://lwn.net/Articles/421357/rss | Dec 31 20:22 | |
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| it is time for me to try out the new laptop. | Dec 31 20:30 | |
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| tada | Dec 31 20:37 | |
| MinceR | ding | Dec 31 20:38 |
| the switch from kde 3 to kde 4 is going to bug me for a few weeks. | Dec 31 20:39 | |
| E16 is the same but I've lost klipper and the nice things it ran well | Dec 31 20:40 | |
| the new version of knetwork manager does not make an icon on gnome-panel | Dec 31 20:41 | |
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| it runs, but I can't access it and something seems to be in the way of manual iwconfig settings | Dec 31 20:42 | |
| Inetl runs hot. | Dec 31 20:42 | |
| I thought the X30 was hot. The X60 has a hotter palm rest | Dec 31 20:43 | |
| it is just bearable. | Dec 31 20:43 | |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/61352425 | Dec 31 20:44 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @Charles-H. Schulz (charlesschulz)'s status on Friday, 31-Dec-10 18:10:05 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz : Happy New Year to you and thanks for the Kennedy recording :-) | Dec 31 20:44 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Feliz año nuevo !eolianos e !identica en general :) | Dec 31 20:45 | |
| schestowitz | [20:37] <twitter> tada | Dec 31 20:46 |
| schestowitz | [20:38] <MinceR> ding | Dec 31 20:46 |
| schestowitz | Windows 3.11 | Dec 31 20:46 |
| schestowitz | [With error message on startup] | Dec 31 20:46 |
| schestowitz | replyto://20893728663150593 | Dec 31 20:47 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/20916777714188290 | Dec 31 20:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @glynmoody: @schestowitz true | Dec 31 20:47 |
| schestowitz | re "to evade the lobbying ban,Mandy could 'pull a Murdoch'(who spent 3 years in jail)&move 2 a country where his power is unmonitored" | Dec 31 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #followfriday #ff @phoronix @creativecommons @eff @agentsmith @satipera @dorainseattle happy new year, signing off | Dec 31 20:47 | |
| schestowitz | OK, laters.... next week there will be a ton of posts about Gates Fundamentalism | Dec 31 20:47 |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2010 Trend Watch Update: Online Video https://eff.org/r.w9d | Dec 31 20:49 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Nobody does it better... :) | Dec 31 20:54 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus! http://ur1.ca/2ptf2 | Dec 31 21:04 | |
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| I have Windows 3.1 in a dosbox somewhere. Word Perfect 4.2 and 5.1, wowser! | Dec 31 21:08 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[laforge/@laforge] Statistics of the #openbsc based #gsm network at #27c3 are available at http://bit.ly/hAuWcx | Dec 31 21:09 | |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Dec 31 21:10 |
| I'm actually putting Windows XP in a virtual box today. It is the first time that I've installed Windows in about eight years. I have some legacy devices sitting around that my boss wants me to have a fall back device to control. | Dec 31 21:10 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus! http://ur1.ca/2ptga | Dec 31 21:10 | |
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| "Windows XP the most reliable Windows ever." | Dec 31 21:11 | |
| A few screens back they had a grammar typo about being able to close unstable applications "or lose your work" | Dec 31 21:12 | |
| something like, "close unstable applications without having to reboot your computer or lose your work." | Dec 31 21:12 | |
| Oh God, that's ugly. | Dec 31 21:13 | |
| VirtualBox rocks. It auto resized that pig. | Dec 31 21:14 | |
| it is singing to me, cheezy. I preferred the tada | Dec 31 21:17 | |
| Registration of this copy is optional. How refreshing. I'll have to block network access to it. | Dec 31 21:17 | |
| Your Name: Bill Gates | Dec 31 21:17 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's evil Ade! http://ur1.ca/2pthq | Dec 31 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Oh Jesus! http://ur1.ca/2pthu | Dec 31 21:20 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF and Happy new year to all my lovable readers! | Dec 31 21:20 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @_Goblin @AirborneDude501 @Amazonia_de_Pe @AndersonFRech @AndroidSecrets @arleisilva @AugustBecker0 @CiscoNetAcad @COnservAdorBR | Dec 31 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @Dan_Jacques @Dona_Abgail @DungaRei @ecowatches @emuparadise @ender2070 @fisl @fmgil @frmdrt @fun140 @funwithlinux @gabeiracombr | Dec 31 21:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @games24hinfo @GHANAWEBCAM @glynmoody @homembit @iKaciah @iluvpclinuxos @innRedBlueGreen @jasonbird2 @jgderose @julinho2 @Juninho_KNG | Dec 31 21:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @kennytsushima @LeonardNimoy @linuxmintcombr @luciouberdan @maddoghall @MaraStn @MarceloBranco @Margarete3801 @Margaritarosadf | Dec 31 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @mirgonkayser @mjasay @moneymatter4now @naughtyCherry88 @nihaohello @novacut @oblakeerickson @omgubuntu @opentechgirl @oscentre | Dec 31 21:27 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @ParallelsMac @pliniodearruda @RandomSpotlight @rbanffy @rcweir @Rickfer @rjbgbo @rksharing @rogawa @schestowitz @Sen_Cristovam | Dec 31 21:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @siduxBrasil @sinaisix @strangemagicbus @thabalwell @TheRealNimoy @Time4Linux @TPO_Hisself @twibbon @twittandokiss @unhosted @uusoksa | Dec 31 21:30 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] #FF @vebersol @VirtualTweet @WebUpd8 @william_telles @WilliamShatner @YahooCanadaNews | Dec 31 21:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @jmcesteves RT @axelhorns: #EU Commission about to conduct various interesting ICT and/or patent related studies -- http://tinyurl.co ... | Dec 31 21:54 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] RT @bkuhn !Canonical hired a !GPL -violator-defending lawyer to draft so-called "community" Harm-ony ©LA. Hope remaining NPO's'll finall ... | Dec 31 21:55 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's evil Ade! http://ur1.ca/2ptop | Dec 31 22:04 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] ♺ @xScited_Adrian: "zombie" satellite comes back to life http://bit.ly/hdwCrc !science | Dec 31 22:05 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] RT @haris @mjjzf 2011 year of the !Linux cyborg | Dec 31 22:05 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] It's evil Ade! http://ur1.ca/2ptpa | Dec 31 22:07 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] Me and the wife are seeing the new year in with a movie...Lord of the Rings on BluRay....question is - 1,2 or 3...we can't decide. | Dec 31 22:20 | |
| I like the new Akregator. | Dec 31 22:29 | |
| VOIP now illegal in China, except through state monopoly provider. http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90778/90860/7246526.html | Dec 31 22:30 | |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: VoIP decision means Skype now illegal - People's Daily Online .::. Size~: 29.76 KB | Dec 31 22:30 |
| Watch idiots in the US push for similar, if they understand enough to be dangerous. | Dec 31 22:30 | |
| US ISPs typically forbid offering services and claim the ability to kick you off line at any time for any reason. | Dec 31 22:31 | |
| Many tried to make it difficult to use any but their own mail servers. That failed, but they did make it impossible for people to run their own. | Dec 31 22:32 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] mrrr. | Dec 31 22:32 | |
| iPhone finally rolls out video Skype. http://www.tekgoblin.com/2010/12/30/skype-for-the-iphone-now-makes-video-calls/ | Dec 31 22:33 | |
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| that only took a decade. | Dec 31 22:33 | |
| Slashdot fails to mention Windows as a culprit in the Skype outage. | Dec 31 22:34 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] I should post a photographic year in review, but I'm kinda too lazy. I'll just look through my shots myself, and post some good ones | Dec 31 22:35 | |
| Skype does damage control for Microsoft http://www.infoq.com/news/2010/12/Lessons-from-Skype-Outage | Dec 31 22:36 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] I wonder if I missed a space in my previous dent, or if that was a wrapping hiccup due to not-so-wide terminal window | Dec 31 22:45 | |
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| new Kmail did not import sending accounts from KDE 3. it got receiving accounts, my identities and other but lost sending accounts. Another minor irritant is that it lost the fancy display of people's images. | Dec 31 22:50 | |
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| remembering that is going to be a pain. | Dec 31 22:51 | |
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| akregator is crashy | Dec 31 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] First dent of 2011, 4th bottle of champagne in 5, life's good. Enjoy! :-) | Dec 31 23:09 | |
| and forgetful | Dec 31 23:09 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Thank you for a great 2010 on opensource.com. We've got some great things coming in 2011. Happy New Year! | Dec 31 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana: #2011? Not from here, baby :) Happy GNU year! | Dec 31 23:12 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] started my first project on kde's new git infrastructure. very smooth, following instructions from here: http://tinyurl.com/2w43c44 | Dec 31 23:15 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @akari Feliz año nuevo!!! | Dec 31 23:15 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @ruiseabra happy GNU year from old Europe :-) | Dec 31 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[wildcard/@wildcard] Happy GNU Year everyone :) | Dec 31 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[toros/@toros] Happy new year! | Dec 31 23:19 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[fabsh/@fabsh] Happy New Year! http://ur1.ca/2pucx | Dec 31 23:22 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] @carlopiana: Will join your Champagne toast in about forty minutes, for now a good bottle of wine and some vodka after the baby falls asleep | Dec 31 23:22 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @ender2070 How does it do that? | Dec 31 23:24 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[carlopiana/@carlopiana] @ruiseabra good. On a better count I've had far more than a bottle. Don't tell the P-lice when I drive home... ;-) | Dec 31 23:25 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] let's see if that can provoke the freetards, use their own logic on them >:) | Dec 31 23:35 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @TonyClement_MP: Wow this Canada-Sweden game has everything --except goaltending! #gocanadago | Dec 31 23:37 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] ah, and i bought stoneage last time i was in .ch, but it's still over there awaiting for me when i move ... also fun, though | Dec 31 23:40 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] RT @howardknopf: Vancouver Olympic law expires with 2010 | Other Sports | Sports | Toronto Sun http://bit.ly/f0E255 | Dec 31 23:40 | |
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| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] @themadhatter easy now, more of this Peter Jackson stuff and we'll be having words ;D | Dec 31 23:45 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[rrix/@rrix] / How can anybody be enlightened? Truth is after all so poorly lit. / Listening to Rush - Turn the Page | Dec 31 23:47 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[ruiseabra/@ruiseabra] I could really do without this fuckwit portuguese #idols version playing on friend's tv, specially with some idiot butchering a song I like. | Dec 31 23:49 | |
| -TRIdentica/#techrights-[themadhatter/@themadhatter] @thistleweb Hey, I'm opinionated, loud, brash, noisy, and opinionated. Those are my good points! | Dec 31 23:59 | |
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