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| schestowitz | "@satipera] What ever political party we have in Britain I am ashamed to be British, permanent USA useful idiots. Wish I was born French." | Mar 02 07:13 |
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| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 02 07:13 |
| schestowitz | Sarko? | Mar 02 07:13 |
| MinceR | lol | Mar 02 07:13 |
| schestowitz | NEIGHBOURS' lawn and all that... | Mar 02 07:20 |
| schestowitz | I'm getting a really nice font in the title here: http://www.mozilla.org/parks/tumucumaque/ | Mar 02 07:25 |
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| schestowitz | I though it was an image or several images at first | Mar 02 07:25 |
| MinceR | not bad | Mar 02 07:26 |
| schestowitz | depends on the OS/browser though | Mar 02 07:26 |
| MinceR | needs some sort of bloat though | Mar 02 07:27 |
| MinceR | won't work in my default profile, even with scripts allowed | Mar 02 07:27 |
| MinceR | works in the trash profile though | Mar 02 07:27 |
| schestowitz | Some shadow effects are these days being done with JS | Mar 02 07:30 |
| schestowitz | gtg | Mar 02 07:30 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: ping | Mar 02 10:01 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: : ping | Mar 02 10:04 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: Remember the startup? | Mar 02 10:41 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: In what context startup. I think I missed something. | Mar 02 10:43 |
| schestowitz | We talked about starting something in December | Mar 02 10:47 |
| oiaohm | That was a fair while back. | Mar 02 10:48 |
| oiaohm | Linux conf and all in middle. | Mar 02 10:48 |
| oiaohm | So my memory was like what. | Mar 02 10:48 |
| oiaohm | So how is it progressing. schestowitz | Mar 02 10:48 |
| schestowitz | I may start it soon | Mar 02 10:50 |
| schestowitz | But need planning... | Mar 02 10:50 |
| oiaohm | As with all things. | Mar 02 10:50 |
| schestowitz | I already have 2 jobs, will need to figure out how to mix it all in | Mar 02 10:50 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: but the question is, are you still interested? | Mar 02 10:51 |
| oiaohm | I am currently writing up a white paper that is an extention on something I saw at the Linux conf. | Mar 02 10:51 |
| oiaohm | I am still interesting but I do want to finsh the white paper I am currently working on. | Mar 02 10:51 |
| schestowitz | "whitepaper" is a glorified blog post :-) | Mar 02 10:51 |
| oiaohm | No a full nightmare about 15 page white paper. | Mar 02 10:52 |
| schestowitz | blog posts can be long too | Mar 02 10:52 |
| schestowitz | It's about layout/style/formatting | Mar 02 10:52 |
| oiaohm | This thing needs graphics. | Mar 02 10:52 |
| oiaohm | Put it this way I am hoping to stop at 15 pages after culling. | Mar 02 10:53 |
| oiaohm | yes I need to cull since the draft form at the moment is around the 45 page mark. schestowitz | Mar 02 10:54 |
| schestowitz | You can comment out | Mar 02 10:55 |
| schestowitz | My papers are full of stuff commented out | Mar 02 10:56 |
| schestowitz | Latex | Mar 02 10:56 |
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| oiaohm | I know I can comment out. | Mar 02 11:20 |
| oiaohm | I also have dyslexia english clean up. schestowitz | Mar 02 11:20 |
| oiaohm | Yes it has to be a pritty good idea to motivate me to write this much. | Mar 02 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Yeah, I guess it is good exercise too | Mar 02 11:22 |
| schestowitz | I wrote 200+ page works twice in my life... | Mar 02 11:22 |
| oiaohm | Worst part is the 15 pages will be without reference hardware examples. schestowitz | Mar 02 11:23 |
| oiaohm | Yes there is a reason why I have to get back from 45 pages to 15 if able. | Mar 02 11:24 |
| oiaohm | The final document with all sub parts Could exceed 200+ pages. | Mar 02 11:24 |
| oiaohm | But for grants and the like you need a overview of what the goal is. | Mar 02 11:25 |
| schestowitz | Oh, you seek a grant? | Mar 02 11:28 |
| schestowitz | By the way, when must it be finished by? | Mar 02 11:28 |
| oiaohm | Really the grants I am going after come up quite regular. | Mar 02 11:29 |
| oiaohm | I really just want it out my head and on paper inside 1 month. | Mar 02 11:30 |
| oiaohm | You know how it is when you have a good idea. | Mar 02 11:30 |
| oiaohm | Soon its out the better sooner you can sleep without thinking about it over and over again. | Mar 02 11:30 |
| oiaohm | This one is far more complex than most of my prior ones schestowitz | Mar 02 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Normally for grants in the past the basic cover of what the goals are have been under 2 pages. | Mar 02 11:34 |
| schestowitz | but what area? | Mar 02 11:34 |
| oiaohm | Communications. | Mar 02 11:35 |
| schestowitz | Technical? | Mar 02 11:39 |
| schestowitz | This work is very broad... | Mar 02 11:39 |
| oiaohm | Its is broad. and it is Technical. And if it works way networks are designed maybe complete altered. | Mar 02 11:40 |
| schestowitz | layer/level? | Mar 02 11:40 |
| schestowitz | machine/protocol/bits? | Mar 02 11:40 |
| oiaohm | machine and protocal. | Mar 02 11:41 |
| oiaohm | Lets say nightmare. | Mar 02 11:41 |
| schestowitz | It shouldn't be | Mar 02 11:41 |
| schestowitz | If you have it all figured out | Mar 02 11:42 |
| oiaohm | I am 90 percent sure I have it completely figured out. | Mar 02 11:42 |
| oiaohm | I have that 10 percent worry problem. | Mar 02 11:43 |
| schestowitz | I see... | Mar 02 11:43 |
| schestowitz | When will you be done with it? | Mar 02 11:43 |
| oiaohm | As I say hopefully inside 1 month from now. | Mar 02 11:44 |
| oiaohm | good part is most of this will not be using new IC chips. | Mar 02 11:44 |
| schestowitz | OK, good... | Mar 02 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Just maybe some put into a combinations not normally done. | Mar 02 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Cause I hope to have someone in Australia working as available. | Mar 02 11:45 |
| schestowitz | The idea is the same as before | Mar 02 11:45 |
| schestowitz | Like we talked during... well, Xmas IIRC | Mar 02 11:45 |
| oiaohm | Basically what I am writting it taking everything I have learnt about network design. And creating a design I have never seen in any book. | Mar 02 11:46 |
| oiaohm | There is always a percentage of worry doing this of course. | Mar 02 11:48 |
| oiaohm | Ie why has no one else ever done this. | Mar 02 11:48 |
| schestowitz | Maybe done before.. | Mar 02 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Hard to tell | Mar 02 11:53 |
| schestowitz | Lots of overlap exists everywhere, science too | Mar 02 11:53 |
| oiaohm | I have been back threw every one of the reference designs. And no it has not been done before. | Mar 02 12:00 |
| oiaohm | Yes in network design doing a design that has not been done before is extreamlly rare. | Mar 02 12:01 |
| schestowitz | Why not write down the code/scheme? | Mar 02 12:01 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: That is what I am working on. write down the scheme how to works. Why it will work and how its using the ideas out the historic designs. | Mar 02 12:10 |
| oiaohm | In a different way to make something completely new. | Mar 02 12:11 |
| schestowitz | Where will it be published? | Mar 02 12:12 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I am not going to jinx it. The location is dependent on who funds. | Mar 02 12:21 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: I have 3 possible locations so far. And most likely before the the document is complete more. | Mar 02 12:21 |
| schestowitz | Do you have a site other than the blog? | Mar 02 12:22 |
| oiaohm | That I don't use enough. | Mar 02 12:22 |
| schestowitz | I know.. | Mar 02 12:23 |
| schestowitz | Your "battleground" | Mar 02 12:23 |
| oiaohm | I have a website and its used less than my battleground. | Mar 02 12:23 |
| oiaohm | You know my history with writing stuff. It takes something important to proper motivate me. | Mar 02 12:24 |
| schestowitz | Which site? | Mar 02 12:24 |
| schestowitz | Today I build a new site | Mar 02 12:26 |
| schestowitz | In the afternoon | Mar 02 12:26 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: If everything works outs I will not have to use my own. | Mar 02 12:35 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: This is the reason why my own is poorly maintained most of the time I don't need it. | Mar 02 12:35 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 02 12:38 |
| schestowitz | if you need a site to post copies, techrights might help, no? | Mar 02 12:38 |
| schestowitz | To give it exposure | Mar 02 12:38 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: to ask again, will you be interested in being associated with a company that can get you contract work? | Mar 02 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Not just now... | Mar 02 12:39 |
| oiaohm | I am still interested. schestowitz | Mar 02 12:56 |
| oiaohm | for what I am working on there are projects existing working in releated fields. schestowitz | Mar 02 12:56 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that I ment at the Linux conf | Mar 02 12:56 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: Yes one of those things I saw what they were doing and my mind dreamed up a new design that should suit way better than existing designs. | Mar 02 12:57 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: So luck being luck I should not need a site. Since I should be able to publish on existing in the field. | Mar 02 12:58 |
| schestowitz | Good, good... | Mar 02 13:10 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://falkvinge.net/2011/02/25/kill-copyright-create-jobs/ See the font in post titles | Mar 02 13:12 |
| schestowitz | I wish I know fonts well... | Mar 02 13:12 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: ping | Mar 02 13:12 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: you can probably find out from the sources | Mar 02 13:13 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Mar 02 13:15 |
| schestowitz | But it's in gnu/linux somehow | Mar 02 13:16 |
| oiaohm | Kill copyright is not exactly a valid solution. | Mar 02 13:19 |
| oiaohm | This is more an agruement why piracy works. | Mar 02 13:20 |
| oiaohm | Free standards. Fair playing fields. | Mar 02 13:20 |
| oiaohm | Its lack of Fair playing fields that create a lot of the job issues. | Mar 02 13:21 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Mar 02 13:22 |
| schestowitz | Congregation and centralisation of power | Mar 02 13:23 |
| schestowitz | Few very affluent people with franchises, many peasants serving them | Mar 02 13:23 |
| oiaohm | Does it really change anything if you have to pay for updates or be over run by viruses. | Mar 02 13:59 |
| oiaohm | That is the simple problem remove copyright does not remove the locks. | Mar 02 14:00 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: hi | Mar 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz | Hey buddy | Mar 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz | I decided to go live with the site, maybe today | Mar 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz | I don't know how to do logos/fonts though | Mar 02 15:12 |
| schestowitz | You did seb's | Mar 02 15:12 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i did him a crummy avatar. | Mar 02 15:13 |
| schestowitz | It was good | Mar 02 15:13 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i do some logo work. it's just hard to timeslice with other stuff (for me) | Mar 02 15:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: you could send me an email explaining what u need? and maybe a screenshot or two of the site content? | Mar 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Today I plan to build a site... | Mar 02 15:14 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i could do you some css | Mar 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz | I have CSS | Mar 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz | Whitehouse is GPLed | Mar 02 15:14 |
| schestowitz | This for example: http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/whitehouse | Mar 02 15:15 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: WordPress › WhiteHouse « Free WordPress Themes .::. Size~: 13.22 KB | Mar 02 15:15 |
| schestowitz | I might put that in the top level of my own domain, which looks like something from the 90s | Mar 02 15:15 |
| qu1j0t3 | not bad. i don't think it looks -that- dated actually | Mar 02 15:16 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Mar 02 15:19 |
| schestowitz | I plan to make the site go to a commercial thing | Mar 02 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Offering services | Mar 02 15:20 |
| schestowitz | And if I get something in the US, Quadrescence can help, you're in Canada | Mar 02 15:20 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm from .au is also still interested, we spoke about this some hours ago | Mar 02 15:20 |
| schestowitz | The focus is providing people FOSS-based scientific computing | Mar 02 15:20 |
| schestowitz | That's a skill I've developed for years | Mar 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | It includes some coding for integration | Mar 02 15:21 |
| schestowitz | The site I have in mind need not be more than a few pages | Mar 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Maybe names of people whom one can have assigned to a project, on contractual basis | Mar 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Can also work in groups | Mar 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | Some hospitals depend on expensive and slow matlab+Windows | Mar 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | They can be moved to centos+octave for example | Mar 02 15:22 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: still there? | Mar 02 16:01 |
| schestowitz | "Communist Manifesto (@CommManifesto) is now following your tweets (@schestowitz) on Twitter. "l | Mar 02 16:02 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Mar 02 16:02 |
| qu1j0t3 | hi | Mar 02 16:04 |
| MinceR | ender made a new account? :> | Mar 02 16:05 |
| schestowitz | Obsessed loon again.. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/bbbaf1040e9a0c1a# | Mar 02 16:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: comp.os.linux.advocacy | Google Groups .::. Size~: 29.4 KB | Mar 02 16:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's what I though | Mar 02 16:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | lol | Mar 02 16:06 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: I was wondering if you could make a simple logo that says "Schestowitz" | Mar 02 16:06 |
| schestowitz | to fit with the layout in http://wordpress.org/extend/themes/whitehouse | Mar 02 16:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: WordPress › WhiteHouse « Free WordPress Themes .::. Size~: 13.22 KB | Mar 02 16:06 |
| schestowitz | Cause you made one for seb very easily | Mar 02 16:06 |
| schestowitz | And my fonts suck | Mar 02 16:07 |
| Quadrescence | schestowitz: http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110301/ts_yblog_thelookout/facebook-will-soon-share-users-phone-numbers-and-addresses-with-3rd-parties | Mar 02 16:51 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Facebook will soon share users’ phone numbers and addresses with 3rd parties - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 113.1 KB | Mar 02 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: never mind, I'll make one myself | Mar 02 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: yes, sounds like old news | Mar 02 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Was a mess about it a month ago | Mar 02 16:51 |
| Quadrescence | i c | Mar 02 16:51 |
| schestowitz | I think it was not finalised at the time | Mar 02 16:51 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: I think I'll go live with the startup | Mar 02 16:51 |
| schestowitz | You're in then US, right? | Mar 02 16:52 |
| Quadrescence | yes | Mar 02 16:52 |
| Quadrescence | minnesota, usa | Mar 02 16:52 |
| qu1j0t3 | fwiw, usa | Mar 02 16:52 |
| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/65861098 | Mar 02 16:54 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @Narendra Sisodiya (nsisodiya)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Mar-11 16:44:13 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Thanks a lot. | Mar 02 16:54 |
| schestowitz | Go India | Mar 02 16:54 |
| qu1j0t3 | indeed | Mar 02 16:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | we need SOMEBODY to set an example. | Mar 02 16:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | MS infests india, though. | Mar 02 16:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | all of BRIC. | Mar 02 16:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | it's disgusting | Mar 02 16:56 |
| schestowitz | I know | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | But... | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Many people there | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | They can rise up | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | We need to explain to them where we do wrong. | Mar 02 16:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | 'can' | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | "We" as in the oligarchs that abuse us too | Mar 02 16:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | based on what i see in Brazil: don't hold your breath. | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Heh | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Well.. | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | I know what you mean | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | So I won't argue | Mar 02 16:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | it is far likelier that the US corporation collapses before there is a rebellion in BRIC. | Mar 02 16:57 |
| schestowitz | Let it be | Mar 02 16:57 |
| qu1j0t3 | (in my opinion) | Mar 02 16:58 |
| schestowitz | Inflation in the US | Mar 02 16:58 |
| schestowitz | But then CHina... | Mar 02 16:58 |
| schestowitz | not much better, either | Mar 02 16:58 |
| schestowitz | They now exploit the black continent | Mar 02 16:58 |
| schestowitz | A Hoover of resources | Mar 02 16:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, but they recognise that MS-dependence is a strategic weakness.. i can definitely see China proliferating an alternative | Mar 02 16:58 |
| schestowitz | And rare earth is something they now have a monopoly on | Mar 02 16:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | (within china) | Mar 02 16:58 |
| schestowitz | China gets Windows almost for free | Mar 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | They are riding on Microsoft | Mar 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Exploiting them | Mar 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | While it suits both side | Mar 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | Monopoly to Microsoft, free stuff for China | Mar 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | As soon as that changes, China will toss MSFT like a hot plate | Mar 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | They have many good engs | Mar 02 16:59 |
| schestowitz | And they have some OSes ready to swap MS | Mar 02 16:59 |
| qu1j0t3 | right | Mar 02 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: could you help with logo, please? | Mar 02 17:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: yes. you want just the word schestowitz | Mar 02 17:28 |
| schestowitz | It needs to say something like "Shestowitz - scientific freedom" | Mar 02 17:28 |
| schestowitz | with smaller fonts for the latter | Mar 02 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | ok. do you have anything written about the company? | Mar 02 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I hate lousy fonts and GIMP | Mar 02 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | are you committed to this name? | Mar 02 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Oops | Mar 02 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Typo | Mar 02 17:28 |
| schestowitz | Schestowitz | Mar 02 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | i saw it/ | Mar 02 17:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Mar 02 17:28 |
| schestowitz | I happen to host it on my site | Mar 02 17:29 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/c/ | Mar 02 17:29 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Schestowitz | Schestowitz .::. Size~: 6.08 KB | Mar 02 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Just installed it | Mar 02 17:29 |
| schestowitz | Not done anything yet | Mar 02 17:29 |
| schestowitz | There will be a redirection | Mar 02 17:29 |
| schestowitz | So the site will start off with about 800 visitors per day | Mar 02 17:29 |
| schestowitz | I used to get 3,000 per day | Mar 02 17:29 |
| schestowitz | but I no longer add content to the site | Mar 02 17:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | you're setting up a consultancy right? | Mar 02 17:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | i question whether this is the ideal name | Mar 02 17:30 |
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| qu1j0t3 | maybe it is... how much discussion have you had about it? | Mar 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz | I've just changed the theme | Mar 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: none really | Mar 02 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Just thought it through in the kitchen | Mar 02 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Maybe not say anything in the logo except the name? | Mar 02 17:32 |
| schestowitz | Hmm... this theme would suck | Mar 02 17:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 02 17:33 |
| schestowitz | WhiteHouse is the free version of WhiteHousePro, a premium theme. | Mar 02 17:33 |
| schestowitz | Buy WhiteHousePro to get the professional page templates, premium options and dynamic control you'll need maximize your web marketing and visitor experience. | Mar 02 17:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Mar 02 17:33 |
| schestowitz | I smell a trap | Mar 02 17:33 |
| schestowitz | http://wp-themes.com/wp-creativix/?TB_iframe=true&width=600&height=400 | Mar 02 17:35 |
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| schestowitz | This one is nice.. http://wp-themes.com/graphene/?TB_iframe=true&width=600&height=400 | Mar 02 17:39 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Theme Preview » Previewing Another WordPress Blog .::. Size~: 38.61 KB | Mar 02 17:39 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/nsisodiya/status/42996879843262464 | Mar 02 17:42 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @nsisodiya: @schestowitz means ?? I am in India... | Mar 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | context: "@nsisodiya Go India!" | Mar 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | He thinks I mean "go to India" | Mar 02 17:42 |
| schestowitz | it's like an idiom, "go India" | Mar 02 17:43 |
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| schestowitz | This one is not as good, I think.. http://wp-themes.com/intrepidity/?TB_iframe=true&width=600&height=400 | Mar 02 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: shaping up a bit.. http://schestowitz.com/c/ any thoughts? | Mar 02 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | I'm starting to worry the landlord won't have the Net left on when I move in... | Mar 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | I need the Internet. Just mailed the agent.. "Thank you so much, Sarah. I was just about to call before 5. To give some context, I work exclusively from home, via the Net (for my employer but also consulting privately and doing post-doctoral research for a university). Without the Internet I just aimlessly walk around town, waiting for the connection." | Mar 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | Surely the stalkers will take this out of context... | Mar 02 18:25 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: when you're around, let me know what you think please (if you have the time) | Mar 02 18:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: hm | Mar 02 18:27 |
| schestowitz | I need to add graphics and stuff | Mar 02 18:27 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i'd go a bit simpler myself.. here you have 3 very strong and more or less clashing elements, the grey patterned background, the purple frames and the bright swoosh | Mar 02 18:27 |
| schestowitz | The front page is a slideshow-type thing | Mar 02 18:27 |
| schestowitz | the swoosh goes away | Mar 02 18:28 |
| schestowitz | it's there by default | Mar 02 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Too many colours | Mar 02 18:28 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes too many things | Mar 02 18:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | and the pattern is very arbitrary | Mar 02 18:30 |
| qu1j0t3 | doesn't match the swoosh | Mar 02 18:30 |
| schestowitz | I'm removing some | Mar 02 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I'll use the one from http://schestowitz.com front page (created by me in 2005) | Mar 02 18:33 |
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| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: i'm not crazy about his home page, but i like the interior style of http://osteele.com/archives/category/open-source | Mar 02 18:34 |
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| *schestowitz looks | Mar 02 18:34 | |
| schestowitz | Wow, seriously? | Mar 02 18:34 |
| schestowitz | It's interesting how tastes vary | Mar 02 18:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | i tend to like the minimal and functional | Mar 02 18:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | :) | Mar 02 18:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | that's just something i stumbled on last week tho | Mar 02 18:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | i should find a better example... | Mar 02 18:35 |
| schestowitz | Check it now.. | Mar 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: yes, I agree | Mar 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Minimal is how I work here | Mar 02 18:38 |
| schestowitz | text editors, latex, etc. | Mar 02 18:38 |
| qu1j0t3 | hm well. | Mar 02 18:39 |
| qu1j0t3 | i still find this layout too dazzling. | Mar 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | But in output mode you want PDF, HTML with CSS3, etc. (IMHO) | Mar 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | It's more consistent with the personal side of the site http://schestowitz.com/ | Mar 02 18:39 |
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| schestowitz | The plan is to have it redirect to the professional site | Mar 02 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Make the rest (about 100,000 pages) stuff on the side | Mar 02 18:40 |
| schestowitz | I've just removed all the reds | Mar 02 18:41 |
| schestowitz | I've just asked someone near here. | Mar 02 18:43 |
| schestowitz | She doesn't like it | Mar 02 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Thinks the colour isn't good and nothing moves (they expect animations) | Mar 02 18:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | animations?!?!?! | Mar 02 18:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | why? | Mar 02 18:44 |
| qu1j0t3 | are they 20-something years old? | Mar 02 18:44 |
| schestowitz | I know... | Mar 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | ANd no, actually old | Mar 02 18:49 |
| schestowitz | People are used to stuff like NYT and portals | Mar 02 18:49 |
| qu1j0t3 | euh | Mar 02 18:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | well | Mar 02 18:51 |
| qu1j0t3 | why would you need an animation? | Mar 02 18:51 |
| schestowitz | No reason, that's my point... some people have weird expectations | Mar 02 18:53 |
| qu1j0t3 | doesn't mean you pander to everyone | Mar 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz | Maybe I should try to make a logo myself? I don't want to trouble you... | Mar 02 18:55 |
| schestowitz | And I thought about this.. domain-wise | Mar 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Starting with a _zero_ domain would not be great | Mar 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Seem like a dodgy business | Mar 02 18:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | well a single word SCHESTOWITZ isn't such a big deal with the tagline, but it would be nice to have some company info | Mar 02 18:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | and i'm not sure that what I do will be compatible with these rather garish layouts | Mar 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Yeah | Mar 02 18:56 |
| schestowitz | Need another word | Mar 02 18:56 |
| qu1j0t3 | i mean the word and tagline are fine | Mar 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz | "Consulting" is corny | Mar 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz | And the target is places that have proprietary software | Mar 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz | OFfering advice and services moving to FLOSS, esp. for scientific s/w that I know well | Mar 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz | I know some people who can become clients | Mar 02 18:57 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise I would not have bothered | Mar 02 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | right. | Mar 02 18:58 |
| schestowitz | And it would be good if we put down names of more people to show seriousness | Mar 02 18:58 |
| schestowitz | The site already has age | Mar 02 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes i am wondering if an actual company name that's not so personal might be better. | Mar 02 18:58 |
| qu1j0t3 | just a thought | Mar 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | That would mean starting a new domain | Mar 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | That's what I was gonna do | Mar 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | The name is googleable | Mar 02 18:59 |
| schestowitz | A John Smith would be more compelled to start with a unique name for a company | Mar 02 19:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | k | Mar 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | The client we have (via my employer) is also a surname of a person | Mar 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | But I did not know that | Mar 02 19:00 |
| qu1j0t3 | right, i don't think it's out of the question | Mar 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | He started consulting w/ services | Mar 02 19:00 |
| schestowitz | Sites like techrights address an issue, thus it makes no sense to use a person's name | Mar 02 19:01 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes | Mar 02 19:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | the name == a reputation | Mar 02 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Hehe: GIMP: http://cooltext.com/ | Mar 02 19:06 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: Cool Text: Logo and Graphics Generator .::. Size~: 20.02 KB | Mar 02 19:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | also an intention to establish a personal reputation | Mar 02 19:06 |
| qu1j0t3 | vs a corporate reputation | Mar 02 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Huff and Puff | Mar 02 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Now she wants to be a politician | Mar 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz | http://cooltext.com/Fonts-Huge | Mar 02 19:07 |
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| schestowitz | My fonts suck | Mar 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz | I follow your good tweets about font-savvy people | Mar 02 19:08 |
| schestowitz | But many good fonts turn out to be proprietaryu | Mar 02 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Causing problems later | Mar 02 19:08 |
| schestowitz | Like the font in WordPress' logo | Mar 02 19:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | i am not sure this causes serious problems | Mar 02 19:08 |
| qu1j0t3 | if a font is central to your identity, you buy it, or use an agency that owns it | Mar 02 19:09 |
| schestowitz | Do you know how much new Manchester spent on a logo? Millions. | Mar 02 19:09 |
| schestowitz | For a bunch of rubbish | Mar 02 19:10 |
| schestowitz | We all joked about it | Mar 02 19:10 |
| schestowitz | I was at the better university at the time | Mar 02 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Before the merger | Mar 02 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Then we got this: http://www.manchester.ac.uk/ | Mar 02 19:10 |
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| schestowitz | With that purple thing | Mar 02 19:10 |
| schestowitz | Someone was paid millions to come up with that turd (just the logo) | Mar 02 19:10 |
| MinceR | must have taken a lot of work | Mar 02 19:11 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: millions ? do u have a citation? | Mar 02 19:13 |
| schestowitz | This one has nice fonts.. http://www.coolarchive.com/logogenerator.php | Mar 02 19:20 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | Title: CoolArchive - Free clip art, fonts, icons, and much more! .::. Size~: 160.47 KB | Mar 02 19:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: so they say... | Mar 02 19:21 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: not offhand | Mar 02 19:21 |
| schestowitz | It was logo and layouts | Mar 02 19:21 |
| qu1j0t3 | right ~ "corporate identity" | Mar 02 19:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | i find that logo rather uninspiring. | Mar 02 19:24 |
| schestowitz | Visual identity they call it here | Mar 02 19:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | yes. | Mar 02 19:24 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: indeed | Mar 02 19:24 |
| schestowitz | Which is why we joked about it | Mar 02 19:24 |
| qu1j0t3 | doesn't Cadbury 'own' purple? :D | Mar 02 19:24 |
| schestowitz | We needed to put that in our presentations, too | Mar 02 19:24 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: that too | Mar 02 19:24 |
| schestowitz | !google boingboing cadbury | Mar 02 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [1] - Boing Boing: Cadbury Trademarks The Color Purple, and they're not ... | http://boingboing.net/2005/03/25/cadbury_trademarks_t.html | Mar 02 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [2] - 3M claims ownership over purple - Boing Boing | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/10/25/3m-claims-ownership.html | Mar 02 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [3] - Baking a cake with Cadbury's eggs instead of real ones - Boing Boing | http://boingboing.net/2006/04/12/baking-a-cake-with-c.html | Mar 02 19:24 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | [4] - Rube Goldberg Cream Egg killer - Boing Boing | http://boingboing.net/2008/05/20/rube-goldberg-cream.html | Mar 02 19:24 |
| MinceR | not Kraft? (Milka) :> | Mar 02 19:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | cadbury corporate. | Mar 02 19:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/c/services/ http://schestowitz.com/c/ | Mar 02 19:43 |
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| schestowitz | Now it has a header | Mar 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz | I'd rather say freedom | Mar 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz | None of that 'open' nonsense | Mar 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz | Scientists are not business people | Mar 02 19:43 |
| schestowitz | They can understand technological impact on the user | Mar 02 19:44 |
| MinceR | "scientific" seems to have some really bad kerning | Mar 02 19:46 |
| MinceR | even the space between the O and the W is too bug | Mar 02 19:47 |
| MinceR | s/bug/big/ | Mar 02 19:47 |
| schestowitz | Yes, that's from the GIMP | Mar 02 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | Try the site now... I put some dummy content.. http://schestowitz.com/c/ | Mar 02 20:31 |
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| qu1j0t3 | i find the animated icon bothersome because it's in a location that browsers use to show page loading in progress. | Mar 02 20:32 |
| schestowitz | Yes, that's inherited from the site as a whole | Mar 02 20:52 |
| schestowitz | See it now | Mar 02 20:52 |
| schestowitz | I added some stuff | Mar 02 20:52 |
| schestowitz | There is animation now too, in the main page | Mar 02 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Quadrescence: are you around? | Mar 02 20:59 |
| Quadrescence | now I am | Mar 02 21:15 |
| schestowitz | Did you see the site? | Mar 02 21:26 |
| schestowitz | It's not public yet, except for those who read IRC (there's nothing to hide, it's just raw and unready) | Mar 02 21:26 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: but why would you automatically add animation because one person mentioned it? | Mar 02 21:29 |
| qu1j0t3 | also, i don't see any :) | Mar 02 21:30 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it uses JS | Mar 02 21:31 |
| qu1j0t3 | i have js enabled | Mar 02 21:31 |
| schestowitz | It's recent posts hovering | Mar 02 21:31 |
| schestowitz | 3 of them | Mar 02 21:31 |
| schestowitz | Mostly blank... | Mar 02 21:31 |
| schestowitz | For some background. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2011/03/02/third-job/ | Mar 02 21:31 |
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| qu1j0t3 | oh, you refer to hover styles as animation? | Mar 02 21:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | i thought you meant 'things that move' without the user doing anything. | Mar 02 21:32 |
| schestowitz | Later this month I'll approach some people whom I think might be interested in services.. | Mar 02 21:32 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: they do move | Mar 02 21:32 |
| schestowitz | After like 5 seconds | Mar 02 21:32 |
| qu1j0t3 | wow that's really going to annoy old people lie me | Mar 02 21:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | like | Mar 02 21:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | but i haven't seen it yet | Mar 02 21:34 |
| qu1j0t3 | on the /c page? | Mar 02 21:34 |
| schestowitz | yes | Mar 02 21:36 |
| schestowitz | It feels kind of vain to do these 'pro' sites | Mar 02 21:36 |
| schestowitz | But they all seems to be like this to attract clients | Mar 02 21:37 |
| schestowitz | So there's this need to do self-flattery BS... and keeping it short and polished... like the new Fedora site | Mar 02 21:37 |
| schestowitz | No room for jargon, either | Mar 02 21:37 |
| schestowitz | I have a friend who has some friends that would spare a lot of money to get site work done | Mar 02 21:38 |
| schestowitz | He's abroad at the moment though | Mar 02 21:38 |
| schestowitz | Comes to Manc any day.. | Mar 02 21:38 |
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| schestowitz | https://identi.ca/notice/65883570 | Mar 02 22:17 |
| TechrightsBot-sc | @satipera (satipera)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Mar-11 22:10:43 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Good luck with new venture. | Mar 02 22:17 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: how much work? i am looking for alternatives | Mar 02 22:43 |
| qu1j0t3 | schestowitz: if u could keep me busy with web/code work, you could take a % :D | Mar 02 22:43 |
| schestowitz | That's what I'll try to find out soon... | Mar 02 22:47 |
| schestowitz | It's good that we touch bases | Mar 02 22:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | i'm not in a position to take random short contracts though | Mar 02 22:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | unfortunately | Mar 02 22:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | maybe in 6 months or a year | Mar 02 22:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | i will be | Mar 02 22:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | i know exactly what i need to do to get there | Mar 02 22:48 |
| qu1j0t3 | but it's logistics | Mar 02 22:48 |
| schestowitz | I'm watcing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ik7fy1Lhpg&feature=related right now.. | Mar 02 23:02 |
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