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| schestowitz | MinceR: `http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8HkHiRNJ9I&feature=digest_refresh_sun | Oct 19 00:38 |
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| schestowitz | I wonder if attachMSFT will axe this one: | Oct 19 01:03 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84647170 | Oct 19 01:03 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Wayne Borean (wayneborean)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Oct-11 23:50:35 UTC - Identi.ca: Unless Novell wins the lawsuit against Microsoft, in which case they'll have lots of dosh. #monopoly | Oct 19 01:03 |
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| schestowitz | > Hi, Roy, | Oct 19 13:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 13:00 |
| schestowitz | > Regarding this one: | Oct 19 13:00 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2011/10/18/novell-fall/ | Oct 19 13:00 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 13:00 |
| schestowitz | > The way out is to promote Samba. | Oct 19 13:00 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Novell’s Collapse Continues as More Customers Move to Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 91.93 KB | Oct 19 13:00 |
| schestowitz | It's in the blog's front page. MS uses LikeWise with its recently Linux "patent deal" (LikeWise are former MSFT employees) to stomp on Samba. | Oct 19 13:00 |
| schestowitz | > I'm seeing Likewise turning up in a few posts over at Ubuntu Forums. | Oct 19 13:40 |
| schestowitz | > The project is unprepared (and unwilling) to deal with astroturfers | Oct 19 13:40 |
| schestowitz | > and shills. | Oct 19 13:40 |
| schestowitz | The role of Likewise, IMHO, is to replace Samba with Microsoft's proxy, which will pay Microsoft the fees that Samba got exemptions from after the European Commission's ruling. TBH, Samba seems too shy to nag about it, but there was an article in ZDNet (IIRC) over a year ago where Allison gently raised the issue. I haven't spoke to him in years and I would resiste to ask him about it. | Oct 19 13:40 |
| abeNd-org | so the fix for microsoft users, is to use a microsoft product emulator, that actually doesnt do as much as the product it is trying to emulate? (in a large university/corporate environment there is a lot of issues with samba) | Oct 19 13:48 |
| MinceR | they should instead use some sane file transfer protocol or network file system | Oct 19 13:49 |
| abeNd-org | and when you can start getting large vendors to support linux clients, openldap auth, etc that would be great | Oct 19 13:51 |
| abeNd-org | does clamav have realtime scanning yet, or still just scheduled? | Oct 19 13:51 |
| MinceR | dunno | Oct 19 13:52 |
| MinceR | i have no reason to fear malware that much | Oct 19 13:52 |
| abeNd-org | *you* no | Oct 19 13:54 |
| abeNd-org | *users* yes | Oct 19 13:54 |
| abeNd-org | think a bit outside of your own little box, about large companies where the average worker thinks the latest harlot has sent HIM DIRECTLY the latest nekkid photos of her!!! OMG HES SO SPECIAL. Now why someone would open material like that at WORK for 1 I don't get....but 2 the idiot should know by now it is a virus! | Oct 19 13:55 |
| MinceR | you do realize clamav supports email scanning, right? | Oct 19 13:56 |
| abeNd-org | its a 0 day threat, so it got past av/antispam/etc | Oct 19 13:56 |
| MinceR | it got past av, so naturally "realtime scanning" will catch it | Oct 19 13:56 |
| MinceR | it got past av, so av will catch it | Oct 19 13:57 |
| MinceR | yes, logical | Oct 19 13:57 |
| abeNd-org | no, not saying that, don't mix up my previous question with what i am talking about now | Oct 19 13:57 |
| MinceR | what are you talking about, then? | Oct 19 13:57 |
| abeNd-org | referring to your more or less "linux got no virus problems" statement | Oct 19 13:58 |
| MinceR | i did not say that | Oct 19 13:58 |
| MinceR | i said i have no reason to fear malware so much as to use "realtime" (which i assume means on-access) scanning | Oct 19 13:58 |
| MinceR | this isn't windows so executables don't get continually clobbered | Oct 19 13:59 |
| MinceR | especially not by non-root processes :> | Oct 19 13:59 |
| MinceR | also, gnu/linux systems that simply won't let you change/run a new/changed executable until the security officer allows that file to be run have existed for ages | Oct 19 14:01 |
| MinceR | there are countless better ways to defend a corporation's systems against malware than slowing down file reads by orders of magnitude | Oct 19 14:01 |
| MinceR | (probably writes also) | Oct 19 14:02 |
| MinceR | i've heard there are efforts to implement on-access scanning, i just don't see the serious need for it | Oct 19 14:02 |
| abeNd-org | how much do you actually deal with users? they do amazing things to get around system/network/internet lock downs in order to not do their job, not caring about security at any point (be it their own identity or the company's data) | Oct 19 14:04 |
| MinceR | i've dealt with corporate systems, i'm very well aware that they can lock their computers down against tampering if they want to | Oct 19 14:05 |
| abeNd-org | oh, they can, they try, and do, but never underestimate the stupidity of a user, or school kids | Oct 19 14:06 |
| MinceR | it's not about stupidity, it's about how secure the platform is | Oct 19 14:07 |
| schestowitz | schools kids are sometimes smarter than the former | Oct 19 14:07 |
| schestowitz | esp. those that grow up on unix | Oct 19 14:07 |
| MinceR | (and how secure the actual deployment is) | Oct 19 14:07 |
| abeNd-org | yea, those little buggers will find any way they can around even the most secure systems to screw things up, or surf pr0n, etc | Oct 19 14:08 |
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| MinceR | yes, because all systems are so insecure that stupid kids can break them | Oct 19 14:08 |
| *MinceR suspects abend-org learned what he knows about IT from hollywood movies | Oct 19 14:08 | |
| MinceR | perhaps that's where the attitude comes from, too | Oct 19 14:08 |
| MinceR | good thing there's one thing they can't disable: on-access scanning | Oct 19 14:10 |
| MinceR | oh wait | Oct 19 14:10 |
| schestowitz | there is always some fancy "enter your password" screen | Oct 19 14:33 |
| schestowitz | with big characters | Oct 19 14:33 |
| schestowitz | maybe ubuntu should make it "just like in the movies" | Oct 19 14:33 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 19 14:35 |
| qu1j0t3 | lulz | Oct 19 15:16 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | Re: Techrights down again | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >>> <http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://techrights.org> | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >>> | Oct 19 18:15 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: http://techrights.org%3E Is Down -> Check if your website is up or down? .::. Size~: 3.07 KB | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >> Hi Snit, | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >> I know you have some kind of a problem with Roy...it must be hard... | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >> But after you yourself has run a site for year you might actually have | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >> some authority to critize others. Also I am waiting to see you write ONE | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >> proper article about Linux and FOSS in general. I mean after all the | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | >> years and millions of rubbish posts from you where is that SINGLE article? | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > LOL Kari, | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > I have no idea why on Earth people keep on torturing their selves, | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > reading the garbage Snit posts, yet a couple of things are crystal clear: | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > 1. Snit is a Microsoft "Technical" Evangelist; | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > 2. Snit is no Apple fan, like he claims to be [A]; | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > 3. Snit doesn't use GNU/Linux; | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > 4. Snit is a liar and a cheater; | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > 5. Snit is obsessive; | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > 6. Snit is clearly insane. | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > A. Just watch his pathetic prescottcomputerguy site, which is crowded | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > with pathetic n00b "instruction video's" for Microsoft Windows. Not a | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > single MacOS "instruction video"! | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > Eeeek! | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > I have no idea why people waste their time with such a lunatic. Haven't | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > you learned from TomB nor "Goblin" yet? | Oct 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | > For Jesus tap-dancing Christ crying out loud :-/ | Oct 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | >> Have you ever thought of buying a television? | Oct 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | > "It's just you. http://techrights.org is up." | Oct 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | The site was never down, either | Oct 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | It was flooded with requests | Oct 19 18:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Main Page - Techrights .::. Size~: 39.25 KB | Oct 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | As I posted in IRC while it was happening | Oct 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | load >20 | Oct 19 18:16 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 19 19:31 |
| schestowitz | That kid sits on the page all the time refreshing | Oct 19 19:40 |
| schestowitz | hoping that someone would feed him | Oct 19 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Just increasing server load | Oct 19 19:40 |
| MinceR | ip blocked -> server relieved ;) | Oct 19 19:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8rKF-F3KbA&NR=1 | Oct 19 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=PXpMMQ8GDDw | Oct 19 21:57 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: My Real Name is........ - YouTube .::. Size~: 98.01 KB | Oct 19 21:57 |
| schestowitz | This is very much like the things Microsoft trolls do | Oct 19 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft: the fundamentalist Islam of trolls | Oct 19 22:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8rKF-F3KbA&feature=relmfu | Oct 19 22:04 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: 'DOC DROPPING' Dawahfilms - YouTube .::. Size~: 93.89 KB | Oct 19 22:04 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd58NLB-c6k&feature=relmfu | Oct 19 22:05 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Amenakin, Censorin' For Islam - YouTube .::. Size~: 105.34 KB | Oct 19 22:06 |
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