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XFaCE | hello | Oct 09 00:24 |
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MinceR | hay | Oct 09 00:24 |
XFaCE | Xchat is working | Oct 09 00:26 |
MinceR | :) | Oct 09 00:26 |
XFaCE | Hey mincer, when you do a whois on me, does my IP appear? | Oct 09 00:26 |
XFaCE | Media Player Classic not running | Oct 09 00:26 |
XFaCE | lol | Oct 09 00:27 |
XFaCE | oops | Oct 09 00:27 |
XFaCE | Playing 11.Dirty Water (Rock & Hyde).mp3 in Media Player Classic | Oct 09 00:27 |
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_Goblin | xfac: did mincer give you an answer? | Oct 09 00:28 |
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_Goblin | xface: did mincer give you an answer? | Oct 09 00:29 |
MinceR | answer to what? | Oct 09 00:29 |
_Goblin | above^^^ | Oct 09 00:29 |
_Goblin | about IP.... | Oct 09 00:29 |
XFaCE | _Goblin: I guess not :P | Oct 09 00:29 |
_Goblin | it doesn't btw | Oct 09 00:29 |
MinceR | oh, didn't even notice the question | Oct 09 00:29 |
XFaCE | thx | Oct 09 00:29 |
MinceR | it doesn't appear | Oct 09 00:29 |
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XFaCE | good | Oct 09 00:30 |
XFaCE | bbl | Oct 09 00:31 |
XFaCE | XChat is weird but awesome | Oct 09 00:31 |
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MinceR | please disable public away | Oct 09 00:32 |
XFaCE | MinceR; err, why? | Oct 09 00:32 |
MinceR | it's annoying | Oct 09 00:32 |
XFaCE | You mean right now? | Oct 09 00:32 |
MinceR | eventually | Oct 09 00:33 |
XFaCE | Or when the default message pops up? | Oct 09 00:33 |
MinceR | i don't think i'm following you | Oct 09 00:33 |
XFaCE | I'm not sure what is "annoying" | Oct 09 00:33 |
MinceR | public away in general | Oct 09 00:33 |
XFaCE | I ask again, why? :) | Oct 09 00:33 |
MinceR | it results in rather uninformative messages being broadcast that are not automatically distinguishable from conversation, and thus trigger activity indicators | Oct 09 00:34 |
XFaCE | ok. | Oct 09 00:35 |
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XFaCE | bb; | Oct 09 00:35 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] RT @x11r5 @bruce89 Well we have multiple neighbors that have no taste | Oct 09 00:48 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Beginner linux guide | Linux Ubuntu - Linux Tutorials #gnulinux #floss #tips http://goo.gl/731sD | Oct 09 00:50 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] The Economics of the Writing Business http://bit.ly/oXiChV #publishing #writing #amwriting #MyWANA | Oct 09 01:03 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Maybe I should make Kleo a #Halloween costume - what to you think of this? http://is.gd/IgIh92 #dogs | Oct 09 01:20 | |
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sebsebseb | hi | Oct 09 01:21 |
MinceR | hay | Oct 09 01:21 |
schestowitz | hello | Oct 09 01:22 |
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sebsebseb | schestowitz: not quite | Oct 09 01:23 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Looking forward to the Red Hat apac tech summit all this week in macau. Fedora Activity Day in Beijing Oct 15 too. | Oct 09 01:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How to lock down Linux | ZDNet #floss #tips http://goo.gl/6Ulti | Oct 09 01:32 | |
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MinceR | gn | Oct 09 01:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #ArchBang Is Lightweight & Always Up To Date [Linux] #distros #gnulinux #floss http://goo.gl/f3jDL | Oct 09 01:35 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] So can one, in Ubuntu Server, set a timeout in Grub in *recovery* mode? Kinda annoying when a server hangs on Grub after a power outage | Oct 09 01:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] My 2 terabyte WDC disk has 644 bad sectors (and has been through 42 power cycles since December) | Oct 09 02:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[joabj/@joabj] 197 sectors are waiting to be remapped, which is throwing the read test off, evidently... | Oct 09 02:05 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] @faither Indeed | Oct 09 02:18 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The Emperors New Virus? - An Analysis of the Evidence for the Existence of HIV (Documentary) - YouTube #docs http://ur1.ca/5cbe1 | Oct 09 02:20 | |
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XFaCE | hey sebsebseb | Oct 09 03:58 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scary Police are now ticketing drivers who honk in support of Occupy Seattle protesters http://identi.ca/url/54036653 | Oct 09 04:58 | |
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amarsh04 | back in a few... | Oct 09 05:14 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Obama, Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Eric Schmidt all walk into a bar together http://identi.ca/url/54036770 !java !google | Oct 09 05:17 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] House bill would impose U.S. drug policy worldwide http://identi.ca/url/54036850 | Oct 09 05:28 | |
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DaemonFC | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?56844-MLAA-For-Mesa-Is-Ready-For-Testing&p=231067#post231067 | Oct 09 06:11 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hiding data in plain sight http://identi.ca/url/30974891 | Oct 09 06:22 | |
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DaemonFC | http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2010/bsdcan/mgp00055.html | Oct 09 06:25 |
DaemonFC | hehe | Oct 09 06:25 |
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DaemonFC | http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2010/bsdcan/mgp00056.html | Oct 09 06:26 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Texas woman sues PD for forcing her to listen to Rush Limbaugh http://identi.ca/url/54037273 #policestate #terrorism | Oct 09 06:27 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @john "The Other Steve Jobs: Censorship, Control and Labor Rights" http://ur1.ca/5c4ui #apple #stevejobs | Oct 09 06:40 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2011-10-08/south-dakota-ghost-town/50705974/1?csp=34news | Oct 09 07:19 |
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iophk | http://boingboing.net/2011/10/08/wipo-boss-the-web-would-have-been-better-if-it-was-patented-and-its-users-had-to-pay-license-fees.html | Oct 09 09:28 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: WIPO boss: the Web would have been better if it was patented and its users had to pay license fees – Boing Boing .::. Size~: 25.72 KB | Oct 09 09:28 |
iophk | The web could only grow exponentially *because* it was open and not patented. There were plenty of closed networks before the Internet and the web. None grew to be of any noteworthy size. | Oct 09 09:29 |
iophk | "ideology over evidents" | Oct 09 09:30 |
iophk | *evidence | Oct 09 09:30 |
schestowitz | yes, I saw that | Oct 09 09:31 |
schestowitz | !google gurry techrights | Oct 09 09:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - “Patent Law for Computer Scientists” Should be Named ... - Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/05/10/francis-gurry-on-harmonisation/ | Oct 09 09:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - 2011 June 19 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2011/06/19/ | Oct 09 09:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Cablegate: EU Negotiations About EU Patent/Community Patent ... | http://techrights.org/2011/09/17/trans-atlantic-monopolies-and-eu/ | Oct 09 09:31 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - 2010 May 10 | Techrights | http://techrights.org/2010/05/10/ | Oct 09 09:31 |
iophk | As usual, you are already on top of things before the other sites get them. | Oct 09 09:31 |
schestowitz | zoobab found it at the time | Oct 09 09:33 |
iophk | It's hard to believe though that Gurry had the cheek to say that in front of an audience, including some from CERN. | Oct 09 09:33 |
schestowitz | It's not the first | Oct 09 09:36 |
iophk | The US government's petition site seems to have upped the minimum number of signatures from 5000 to 25000: | Oct 09 09:36 |
iophk | http://wh.gov/2rC | Oct 09 09:36 |
schestowitz | I heard this before | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Missing content type. Ignoring. | Oct 09 09:36 |
schestowitz | And many articles exist about it | Oct 09 09:36 |
schestowitz | !Google apple patent standard www | Oct 09 09:36 |
schestowitz | !google apple patent standard www | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Apple: Samsung making 'standard-setting abuses' with patents ... | http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/08/30/apple.fights.samsung.on.patent.terms.in.lawsuit/ | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Samsung illegally wielding its RAND patents against Apple in ... | http://www.edibleapple.com/samsung-illegally-wielding-its-rand-patents-against-apple-in-attempt-to-confuse-courts-report/ | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - FOSS Patents: Samsung's attempt to ban the iPhone 4S over ... | http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/10/samsungs-attempt-to-ban-iphone-4s-over.html | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Apple says Samsung set a patent timebomb when the 3G standard ... | http://www.phonearena.com/news/Apple-says-Samsung-set-a-patent-timebomb-when-the-3G-standard-was-created-to-demand-excessive-royalties_id22422 | Oct 09 09:36 |
schestowitz | !google apple patent threat standard w3c | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - FOSS Patents: Apple's latest patent foe: the World Wide Web ... | http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/07/apples-latest-patent-foe-world-wide-web.html | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - W3C seeks to invalidate Apple patents tied to HTML5 | Application ... | http://www.infoworld.com/d/application-development/w3c-chastises-apple-html5-patenting-652 | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Harm to standards and compatibility - software patents wiki (en ... | http://en.swpat.org/wiki/Harm_to_standards_and_compatibility | Oct 09 09:36 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Cover Pages: Patents and Open Standards | http://xml.coverpages.org/patents.html | Oct 09 09:36 |
iophk | A standard can't be open if it is patented unless the patents are available royalty-free permanently. | Oct 09 09:38 |
iophk | There is a world of difference between something that costs nothing and something that costs 1 cent | Oct 09 09:38 |
iophk | There was a lot of discussion of that in the late 1990's | Oct 09 09:38 |
iophk | Just the paperwork involved in the payment is enough to keep many out of a charged-for technology. | Oct 09 09:39 |
schestowitz | It is said that timbl's www would never had taken off if he charged royalty fees to enter | Oct 09 09:41 |
Diablo-D3 | I agree | Oct 09 09:42 |
iophk | It couldn't have. Even the administrative barrirrers would have been too high. without barriers it was able to achieve exponential growth for many years. Scroll down to "www growth" http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/ | Oct 09 09:43 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Hobbes' Internet Timeline - the definitive ARPAnet & Internet history .::. Size~: 93.88 KB | Oct 09 09:43 |
iophk | Same for Internet | Oct 09 09:43 |
iophk | There were many closed networks before the Internet and surviving into the early days of the Internet. | Oct 09 09:44 |
iophk | The just couldn't grow. Closed is not a model for growth. | Oct 09 09:44 |
Diablo-D3 | yes, that has been scientifically proven | Oct 09 09:44 |
Diablo-D3 | anyone who says otherwise is a catholic republican terrorist. | Oct 09 09:44 |
Diablo-D3 | and we send terrorists to gitmo where they belong | Oct 09 09:45 |
iophk | http://www.zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline/Count_WWW-log.gif | Oct 09 09:46 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Kororaa GNU/Linux 15 in Review http://ur1.ca/5cdvc | Oct 09 09:48 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495150 | Oct 09 09:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 08:42:18 UTC - Identi.ca: Latest #BodhiLinux Assessed http://ur1.ca/5cduy | Oct 09 09:49 |
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schestowitz | iophk: Kororaa is anti-mono | Oct 09 09:49 |
schestowitz | I know the lead dev | Oct 09 09:50 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495110 | Oct 09 09:50 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 08:36:35 UTC - Identi.ca: Why I failed the #Vista8 Logo Program http://ur1.ca/5cdta | Oct 09 09:50 |
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schestowitz | but then again, fedora 15 has no mono, either | Oct 09 09:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] A message from Anonymous for the 99% http://ur1.ca/5cdvj #anonymous #hacking #message | Oct 09 09:50 | |
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iophk | schestowitz: good to have more enlightened people | Oct 09 09:50 |
schestowitz | xamarin is abscure | Oct 09 09:51 |
iophk | not obscure enough | Oct 09 09:51 |
schestowitz | nothing in the news about it | Oct 09 09:51 |
schestowitz | maybe Microsoft will buy them or something (for the people) | Oct 09 09:52 |
DaemonFC | http://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/mesa3d-and-the-art-of-slipping-proprietary-software-through-the-back-door/ | Oct 09 09:53 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Mesa3d and the art of slipping proprietary software through the back door. « daemonfc .::. Size~: 41.92 KB | Oct 09 09:53 |
iophk | Microsoft does not need to buy them, they already have control | Oct 09 09:54 |
schestowitz | http://technonstop.com/steve-jobs-openness-compatibility | Oct 09 09:55 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Jobs and Openness - Compatible or Incompatible? | TechNonStop .::. Size~: 31.57 KB | Oct 09 09:55 |
schestowitz | even FOSS sites are joining the hype | Oct 09 09:55 |
schestowitz | iophk: right | Oct 09 09:56 |
schestowitz | Like NovellMate | Oct 09 09:56 |
DaemonFC | open and compatible, like how libimobiledevice was a product of reverse engineering because Apple doesn't document the protocol | Oct 09 09:56 |
DaemonFC | very open :) | Oct 09 09:56 |
iophk | The current trend suggests that maybe it was Steve who was pushing for open. As his health failed, Apple became less open. | Oct 09 09:57 |
DaemonFC | wrong | Oct 09 09:58 |
DaemonFC | they were never open | Oct 09 09:58 |
DaemonFC | certainly not compatible, except with their own devices | Oct 09 09:58 |
DaemonFC | sometimes they supported their own devices through their own bloated software on Windows | Oct 09 09:58 |
DaemonFC | their software on Windows is incredibly bloated | Oct 09 09:59 |
DaemonFC | they couldn't make native Windows software, they had to port over their Aqua GUI and everything | Oct 09 09:59 |
iophk | I considerd OS X five years ago to be fairly open and heading more in that direction | Oct 09 10:00 |
iophk | At the beginning of the company, it was really open | Oct 09 10:00 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495253 | Oct 09 10:01 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 08:51:52 UTC - Identi.ca: "Sarah Palin ruined that" [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5cdxc | Oct 09 10:01 |
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DaemonFC | the libimobiledevice people tend to recommend Banshee | Oct 09 10:01 |
schestowitz | iophk: jobs was still calling the shots | Oct 09 10:01 |
DaemonFC | it works with Rhythmbox and Amarok | Oct 09 10:01 |
iophk | Mac before OS X was really closed, though. | Oct 09 10:01 |
DaemonFC | it still is | Oct 09 10:02 |
iophk | More so now than five years ago. The Apps store is worrying so is iTunes. | Oct 09 10:02 |
DaemonFC | what exactly has changed? | Oct 09 10:02 |
DaemonFC | they let you run Windows now? | Oct 09 10:03 |
iophk | Now system upgrades are tied to the Apps store. | Oct 09 10:03 |
DaemonFC | that's to make it harder for OSX86 | Oct 09 10:04 |
Diablo-D3 | not really | Oct 09 10:04 |
Diablo-D3 | like, you know the lion upgrader? | Oct 09 10:05 |
iophk | You have to have an account to upgrade the operating system. That means that nearly all users have an account and that way impulse shopping can occur. | Oct 09 10:05 |
Diablo-D3 | I downloaded it off of tpb, mounted the dmg, mounted a dmg in that, and then made an iso image of it and booted it with a boot disc | Oct 09 10:05 |
Diablo-D3 | tada, lion install | Oct 09 10:05 |
Diablo-D3 | no need to install snow leopard first | Oct 09 10:06 |
DaemonFC | since Apple makes it hard for people to avoid upgrading all the time, OS X 10.6.8 will be useless in about a year | Oct 09 10:06 |
Diablo-D3 | and it runs in vbox too | Oct 09 10:06 |
DaemonFC | eventually they'll just tweak Xcode to not produce binaries for it | Oct 09 10:06 |
Diablo-D3 | yes, Im aware of how much apple hates me | Oct 09 10:06 |
iophk | But you can't burn the image after upgrading to Lion (10.7) | Oct 09 10:06 |
Diablo-D3 | yes you can | Oct 09 10:06 |
iophk | How? | Oct 09 10:07 |
Diablo-D3 | dont let the installer delete the dmg. | Oct 09 10:07 |
Diablo-D3 | remember, it doesnt delete it until AFTER the install | Oct 09 10:07 |
iophk | The installer deletes it automatically AFAIK | Oct 09 10:07 |
Diablo-D3 | you have to reboot to install | Oct 09 10:07 |
Diablo-D3 | the installer actually repartitions your drive and puts a dvd installer at the end of your drive, and then unpartitions it on exit | Oct 09 10:08 |
Diablo-D3 | so its all just a normal dvd installer, just like normal retail osx discs | Oct 09 10:08 |
iophk | Cool. I wondered how it was done. | Oct 09 10:08 |
Diablo-D3 | so thats why theres a dmg in the dmg | Oct 09 10:08 |
Diablo-D3 | the outer dmg is the "installer" which just puts the inner dmg onto your drive and tells the osx bootloader to boot that instead on reboot | Oct 09 10:08 |
DaemonFC | so the official thing to do is install 10.6 if you need to reinstall | Oct 09 10:08 |
DaemonFC | and then download 4 GB of Lion all over a gain | Oct 09 10:09 |
DaemonFC | and wait hours for it to install, again | Oct 09 10:09 |
iophk | IMHO physical media are better to have | Oct 09 10:09 |
Diablo-D3 | they sell it on USB now too, btw | Oct 09 10:09 |
iophk | It will become more difficult as optical drives disappear from more products | Oct 09 10:09 |
Diablo-D3 | ^ | Oct 09 10:09 |
Diablo-D3 | future macs will also be able to reinstall over the internet automatically too | Oct 09 10:10 |
Diablo-D3 | at least, thats whats strongly rumored | Oct 09 10:10 |
schestowitz | sounds like malware | Oct 09 10:10 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: not really | Oct 09 10:10 |
Diablo-D3 | its no different than netbooting | Oct 09 10:10 |
schestowitz | srly | Oct 09 10:10 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495318 http://identi.ca/notice/84495357 | Oct 09 10:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 08:58:51 UTC - Identi.ca: #NextBook Tablet RUns Linux/Android http://ur1.ca/5cdyb | Oct 09 10:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Sixth and most powerful E-Fun NextBook tablet surfaces - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 56.52 KB | Oct 09 10:11 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 09:01:07 UTC - Identi.ca: #iSign Goes With #Linux for Access Point http://ur1.ca/5cdz6 | Oct 09 10:11 |
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schestowitz | Linux still everywhere, not always on desktops though | Oct 09 10:11 |
iophk | It needs to crack the OEM monopoly to get onto the desktop or even onto netbooks. | Oct 09 10:12 |
schestowitz | Serious business in Sutor's blog http://www.sutor.com/c/2011/10/10-tips-for-raking-leaves-and-other-things/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BobSutor+%28Bob+Sutor%29 | Oct 09 10:12 |
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DaemonFC | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/09/MND11LEDG1.DTL | Oct 09 10:14 |
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Diablo-D3 | I mean hell, gpxe can load boot images off of standard http servers | Oct 09 10:15 |
DaemonFC | http://www.southbendtribune.com/sbt-clinton-obama-indiana-primary-petitions-tainted-by-forged-signatures-20111008,0,5256367.story | Oct 09 10:17 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: False signatures confirmed in 2008 Indiana Democratic Primary placing Obama and Clinton on ballot - southbendtribune.com .::. Size~: 174.38 KB | Oct 09 10:17 |
DaemonFC | http://www.space.com/13211-apollo-astronaut-moon-camera-lawsuit-update.html | Oct 09 10:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Judge Denies Astronaut's Motion to Dismiss Moon Camera Lawsuit | Space.com .::. Size~: 38.19 KB | Oct 09 10:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Music Copyright Police Ruin Artists’ Gigs (and Coconut Curry) http://goo.gl/LGmqI | Oct 09 10:22 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 09 10:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] GNU to Apple [IMG] http://ur1.ca/5ce4y | Oct 09 10:28 | |
TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Oct 09 10:28 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495552 | Oct 09 10:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 09:21:21 UTC - Identi.ca: $ZorinOS in Review (Ubuntu-based) http://ur1.ca/5ce4c | Oct 09 10:29 |
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schestowitz | Dr. Dobbs has openlogic ad http://drdobbs.com/open-source/231700027 | Oct 09 10:30 |
schestowitz | The fusters | Oct 09 10:30 |
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schestowitz | *fudsters | Oct 09 10:30 |
schestowitz | at least they have a decent portal for foss news, to bring people to their anti-gpl ware | Oct 09 10:31 |
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MinceR | geekings | Oct 09 10:38 |
schestowitz | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/chris-mac-mcglynn-joins-qvidian-as-director-of-quality-2011-09-19 | Oct 09 10:38 |
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schestowitz | you can call him "amc" | Oct 09 10:38 |
schestowitz | "mac" | Oct 09 10:38 |
schestowitz | attachmate | Oct 09 10:39 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495616 | Oct 09 10:39 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 09:29:59 UTC - Identi.ca: #RedHat Makes Billions With #GNU #Linux http://ur1.ca/5ce65 | Oct 09 10:39 |
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DaemonFC | he's a shill for American Movie Classics? | Oct 09 10:46 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 10:46 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495690 | Oct 09 10:47 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 09:39:35 UTC - Identi.ca: The Economics of the Writing Business – Updated http://ur1.ca/5ce7d #copyright | Oct 09 10:47 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: I think he's a producer of sorts. Who do you mean though? I'm thinking of Wayne | Oct 09 10:47 |
DaemonFC | you said call him amc | Oct 09 10:48 |
schestowitz | oh | Oct 09 10:48 |
schestowitz | we have the AMC here | Oct 09 10:48 |
schestowitz | his nickname is mac, which isn't the seeme as it used to be | Oct 09 10:48 |
schestowitz | imagine him using Windws | Oct 09 10:48 |
schestowitz | "Mac uses Windows" | Oct 09 10:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Google #NexusPrime Video Leaked, Coming Next Week http://ur1.ca/5ce8t #android #linux | Oct 09 10:53 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Windows reboots everyday... to pay their tribute to Steve Jobs." http://ur1.ca/5cdnd | Oct 09 10:53 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495753 | Oct 09 10:54 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 09:44:55 UTC - Identi.ca: Preparing for $10 Android Tablets http://ur1.ca/5ce86 #linux | Oct 09 10:54 |
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DaemonFC | I noticed Trash 11 is cuaing problems for most non-Firefox browsers | Oct 09 10:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple Tries To #Patent 3rd Party In-App Purchasing http://goo.gl/yC1Kp - more "innovation" hard at work | Oct 09 10:57 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Mozilla attempts and abandons #Firefox 3.6 upgrade http://is.gd/c7wjBE prying from one's dead hands? | Oct 09 10:57 | |
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DaemonFC | companies like to use obsolete software | Oct 09 10:57 |
DaemonFC | preferably Microsoft's | Oct 09 10:57 |
schestowitz | heh | Oct 09 10:58 |
schestowitz | obsolete companies too | Oct 09 10:58 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] the last !sailing trip this year probably, on the Gdańsk Bay and around Hel Peninsula. fair if a bit rough weather. s/y Wars is a beauty! | Oct 09 10:58 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: one place I was working at was using NT 4 Workstation and Server | Oct 09 11:00 |
DaemonFC | in 2007 | Oct 09 11:00 |
schestowitz | Maybe it was expensive to upgrade | Oct 09 11:02 |
schestowitz | Linux does not have this problem | Oct 09 11:02 |
DaemonFC | old computers too | Oct 09 11:03 |
schestowitz | IIRC Munich extended some win2k licences to last while migrating everything to Debian | Oct 09 11:03 |
iophk | Debian is easy to maintain | Oct 09 11:03 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: senior computers, not old computers :-) | Oct 09 11:03 |
schestowitz | iophk: they make their own deriv | Oct 09 11:04 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495848 | Oct 09 11:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 09:54:51 UTC - Identi.ca: Android 4.0 Launch Canceled, To Honor Steve Jobs http://ur1.ca/5ce9s Android 4S maybe? | Oct 09 11:04 |
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schestowitz | is this true? | Oct 09 11:04 |
schestowitz | sounds like speculation | Oct 09 11:04 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84495858 | Oct 09 11:04 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 09:56:07 UTC - Identi.ca: Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs http://ur1.ca/5c6ir lying about @rms by omission | Oct 09 11:04 |
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schestowitz | SJVN makes it seem like he's happy about a death http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-founder-richard-m-stallman-is-glad-jobs-is-gone/9707 | Oct 09 11:05 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Free software founder, Richard M. Stallman is glad Jobs is gone | ZDNet .::. Size~: 119.99 KB | Oct 09 11:05 |
schestowitz | He omits the part where RMS clearly says repeatedly he is not happy about the death | Oct 09 11:05 |
schestowitz | some even attributed to him something that here merely quoted a mayor as saying | Oct 09 11:05 |
schestowitz | typical hack jobs vs rms | Oct 09 11:06 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Like how the register calls bittorrent users freetards | Oct 09 11:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Way to go neighbour! Malaysia Boleh! http://ur1.ca/5cebu | Oct 09 11:07 | |
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schestowitz | Diablo-D3: probably the influence of the Orlowski troll | Oct 09 11:07 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reading dishonets headlines, one gets the false impression @rms was happy about a death. He said the very opposite. Twice. | Oct 09 11:08 | |
iophk | Again, the problem is of bait headlines. | Oct 09 11:09 |
DaemonFC | freetard bittorrent users | Oct 09 11:09 |
DaemonFC | and wake up linux hippies | Oct 09 11:09 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 11:09 |
DaemonFC | -The Register | Oct 09 11:09 |
schestowitz | not just their headlines | Oct 09 11:10 |
schestowitz | the reg is more of a tabloid than before | Oct 09 11:10 |
schestowitz | IT tabloid, a bit more like The INQ | Oct 09 11:10 |
DaemonFC | no bat boy articles yet | Oct 09 11:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: Reading dishonets headlines, one gets the false impression @rms was happy about a death. He said the very opposite. Twice. | Oct 09 11:10 | |
schestowitz | I thought the INQ distinguished itself from the Reg by being comical and trollish... same guy founded both (Mark McGee IIRC) | Oct 09 11:10 |
schestowitz | Mike maybe | Oct 09 11:10 |
schestowitz | MacGee? | Oct 09 11:11 |
DaemonFC | Bat Boy found in cave | Oct 09 11:11 |
DaemonFC | throws chairs | Oct 09 11:11 |
MinceR | they'll bend over backwards to smear RMS | Oct 09 11:11 |
DaemonFC | screams about developers | Oct 09 11:11 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: chairs in a cave? | Oct 09 11:11 |
DaemonFC | yeah | Oct 09 11:11 |
schestowitz | what is it, al qaeda base/ | Oct 09 11:11 |
MinceR | even though he would have been more right if he'd said that jobs deserved to die | Oct 09 11:11 |
schestowitz | the mythical one? | Oct 09 11:11 |
schestowitz | MinceR: I don't think so | Oct 09 11:12 |
schestowitz | Neigher did he | Oct 09 11:12 |
schestowitz | And not just cause it's not PC to say | Oct 09 11:12 |
schestowitz | Jobs was not all *that* bad | Oct 09 11:12 |
DaemonFC | It's not Osama Bin Laden | Oct 09 11:12 |
MinceR | yes he was | Oct 09 11:12 |
schestowitz | Cheney on the other hand... | Oct 09 11:12 |
DaemonFC | it's a guy that sold phones for idiots | Oct 09 11:12 |
schestowitz | Icahn... | Oct 09 11:12 |
schestowitz | Myhrvold.. | Oct 09 11:12 |
DaemonFC | glad he's gone is appropriate | Oct 09 11:12 |
MinceR | yes, we'd be better off without those guys too | Oct 09 11:12 |
iophk | On, RMS, even Steve Jobs said it himself: "Death is life's change agent." | Oct 09 11:12 |
iophk | http://www.freep.com/article/20111005/NEWS09/111005055/In-speech-Steve-Jobs-tells-students-death-life-s-change-agent- | Oct 09 11:12 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: In speech, Steve Jobs tells students death is 'life's change agent' | Detroit Free Press | freep.com .::. Size~: 112.25 KB | Oct 09 11:12 |
schestowitz | Blankfein.. | Oct 09 11:12 |
MinceR | it's not like there's a scarcity of people on the planet that would make us desperate to have these people around | Oct 09 11:13 |
iophk | He emphasized that it clears out the old to make way for the new. | Oct 09 11:13 |
schestowitz | iophk: seems like PR to me | Oct 09 11:14 |
schestowitz | a while ago I was getting emails from someone who knew gates | Oct 09 11:14 |
schestowitz | he wanted Jobs to die | Oct 09 11:14 |
MinceR | gates wanted jobs to die, the sender of the emails wanted jobs to die, or both? | Oct 09 11:14 |
schestowitz | Because he said that despite the death looming, Jobs was a merciless person | Oct 09 11:14 |
schestowitz | Apparently not nice in person | Oct 09 11:14 |
schestowitz | Despite having been on the edge | Oct 09 11:14 |
MinceR | he was worse than that | Oct 09 11:15 |
DaemonFC | just because Jobs is gone doesn't mean Apple will get any better | Oct 09 11:15 |
MinceR | he actively campaigned to take our freedom away, all over the planet | Oct 09 11:15 |
schestowitz | true | Oct 09 11:15 |
schestowitz | but him being good is an agent for change | Oct 09 11:15 |
MinceR | and that's why he deserves no respect | Oct 09 11:15 |
schestowitz | maybe apple will change | Oct 09 11:15 |
MinceR | he was also a hypocrite | Oct 09 11:15 |
schestowitz | :"Gone" not as in dead | Oct 09 11:15 |
schestowitz | just gone from Apple | Oct 09 11:16 |
MinceR | yes, hopefully apple will wither and die | Oct 09 11:16 |
iophk | It's too big to die slowly and cleanly | Oct 09 11:16 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: They need to invite that Pepsi guy back to be their CEO again | Oct 09 11:16 |
iophk | It's better if it turns around | Oct 09 11:16 |
DaemonFC | at that point they have 5 years, tops | Oct 09 11:16 |
schestowitz | iophk: won't ahppen, shareholders won'\t allow it | Oct 09 11:16 |
MinceR | iophk: evil is ingrained in their corporate culture | Oct 09 11:16 |
MinceR | also, they're publicly traded | Oct 09 11:16 |
iophk | or bring in a Microsoft exec. | Oct 09 11:16 |
schestowitz | appl needs to fail a bit now | Oct 09 11:16 |
schestowitz | And lose market to others | Oct 09 11:17 |
schestowitz | like Android to begin with | Oct 09 11:17 |
schestowitz | ideally gnu/linux, not android | Oct 09 11:17 |
iophk | iPhone 5 might be that opportunity for othes. | Oct 09 11:17 |
DaemonFC | I don't get what schestowitz has against soda | Oct 09 11:17 |
DaemonFC | other than people not having any self control | Oct 09 11:17 |
DaemonFC | and weighing 400 pounds due to it | Oct 09 11:17 |
schestowitz | soda is cool | Oct 09 11:17 |
schestowitz | water | Oct 09 11:17 |
schestowitz | carbon | Oct 09 11:17 |
schestowitz | you mean sugared water | Oct 09 11:18 |
MinceR | oxygen | Oct 09 11:18 |
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DaemonFC | ryan@ryan-MS-7501:~$ cat /etc/lsb-release | Oct 09 11:18 |
DaemonFC | DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu | Oct 09 11:18 |
DaemonFC | DISTRIB_RELEASE=11.10 | Oct 09 11:18 |
DaemonFC | DISTRIB_CODENAME=oneiric | Oct 09 11:18 |
schestowitz | gh2o | Oct 09 11:18 |
DaemonFC | DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 11.10" | Oct 09 11:18 |
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DaemonFC | Ubuntu Oneiric reports itself as the final build now | Oct 09 11:18 |
schestowitz | MinceR: carbon | Oct 09 11:19 |
schestowitz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonated_water | Oct 09 11:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Carbonated water - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 59.71 KB | Oct 09 11:19 |
koolhead17 | hi all | Oct 09 11:19 |
DaemonFC | you know, I do drink club soda now and then | Oct 09 11:19 |
DaemonFC | I like it | Oct 09 11:19 |
schestowitz | " water into which carbon dioxide gas under pressure has been dissolved, a process that causes the water to become effervescent." | Oct 09 11:19 |
MinceR | schestowitz: "Carbonated water (also known as club soda, soda water, sparkling water, seltzer, or fizzy water) is water into which carbon dioxide gas under pressure has been dissolved" | Oct 09 11:19 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz can we have a next videocast clearing the air on RMS comment? | Oct 09 11:19 |
schestowitz | sure | Oct 09 11:20 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: club soda with lemon or lime is nice | Oct 09 11:20 |
MinceR | i don't know that one | Oct 09 11:20 |
schestowitz | koolhead17: not sure we'll record this weekend, tim has just had a baby (his wife did) | Oct 09 11:20 |
koolhead17 | hmm | Oct 09 11:20 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz week keep it in priority | Oct 09 11:21 |
koolhead17 | the fud masters making noise all across | Oct 09 11:21 |
koolhead17 | they have forgotten this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0DUg63lqU | Oct 09 11:23 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.66 KB | Oct 09 11:23 |
MinceR | they also couldn't be bothered to study history | Oct 09 11:23 |
schestowitz | More fanboyism in Linux sites http://deviceguru.com/rip-steve-jobs/ | Oct 09 11:24 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: DeviceGuru » RIP Steve Jobs — photos from his street corner .::. Size~: 42.5 KB | Oct 09 11:24 |
schestowitz | many people died that day and didn't get much love | Oct 09 11:24 |
koolhead17 | i even heard jobs died week ago news was kept on hold because 4S had to be launced | Oct 09 11:24 |
koolhead17 | :P | Oct 09 11:24 |
schestowitz | maybe they put it on the ice | Oct 09 11:25 |
schestowitz | Not the iPhone 4S | Oct 09 11:25 |
schestowitz | Steve | Oct 09 11:25 |
schestowitz | sorry, morbid remark.. | Oct 09 11:26 |
koolhead17 | hmm | Oct 09 11:26 |
koolhead17 | :D | Oct 09 11:26 |
schestowitz | Products come fist at Apple | Oct 09 11:26 |
schestowitz | *first | Oct 09 11:26 |
schestowitz | In the short term Apple\s sales are likely to go up as a result of the Steve Media Blitz | Oct 09 11:27 |
schestowitz | "Buy Apple, support poor dead person" | Oct 09 11:28 |
koolhead17 | indeed | Oct 09 11:29 |
koolhead17 | totally agree | Oct 09 11:29 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2011/10/07/steve-jobs/#comments | Oct 09 11:29 |
schestowitz | "Again you deny that the entire hardware and software industry has manage to advance despite both steve 'big jobbie' (i.e. piece of shit) jobsian jobs, and bill 'fuckwit' gates. Well, each to his own I suppose." | Oct 09 11:29 |
TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Criticism of Mono Now “Disappearing” | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.58 KB | Oct 09 11:29 |
schestowitz | "Celebrities - my arse, just because some idiot wants to talk about some other meaninless piece of shit hardly makes them a celebrity." | Oct 09 11:29 |
schestowitz | "you're the one that said steve 'big jobbie' jobsian jobs was the inspiration for cups, webkit, and all the rest, not me." | Oct 09 11:30 |
schestowitz | "He was a greedy, nasty piece of work." | Oct 09 11:30 |
koolhead17 | :P | Oct 09 11:30 |
schestowitz | "And now he's dead just like eveyone else will be one day." | Oct 09 11:30 |
schestowitz | "Fan-bloody-tastic is all i have to say, the hens always come to roost. Eventually." | Oct 09 11:30 |
MinceR | good to see not everyone is misguided about that asshole | Oct 09 11:31 |
koolhead17 | i mean am really pissed off to see certain FOSS folks talking senseless and telling what RMS said is wrong | Oct 09 11:33 |
koolhead17 | i wish they would have read everything what he wrote properly | Oct 09 11:33 |
iophk | Many intentionally misinterpret RMS. This is not the first time it's been done. | Oct 09 11:35 |
koolhead17 | iophk: they love doing it and making RMS angry | Oct 09 11:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @rpcutts: @sandersch what? Are we not all working from GMT? Scandalous. | Oct 09 11:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @jargon: @schestowitz sadly,the truth is irrelevant. people believe what they want to believe. | Oct 09 11:37 | |
Diablo-D3 | I want to believe! | Oct 09 11:37 |
*Diablo-D3 gets hit with a streetlamp | Oct 09 11:37 | |
iophk | koolhead17: yes, since RMS' message is so important, they attack him | Oct 09 11:38 |
iophk | There are now rather few out there with the same message. Roy is, and that's part of the reason he is targeted, too. | Oct 09 11:39 |
schestowitz | today I got defamd again | Oct 09 11:39 |
Diablo-D3 | iophk: btw no | Oct 09 11:39 |
Diablo-D3 | I read RMS's statement | Oct 09 11:39 |
Diablo-D3 | I didnt like it. | Oct 09 11:39 |
schestowitz | I mean proper defamation, fake messages with my name too | Oct 09 11:39 |
Diablo-D3 | So its not anyone telling me what to think, no one does that. | Oct 09 11:39 |
schestowitz | and I got a threat last week | Oct 09 11:39 |
Diablo-D3 | Its just that RMS is an aspie through and through | Oct 09 11:40 |
schestowitz | Haven't gotten those for a while now | Oct 09 11:40 |
Diablo-D3 | thats just the way he is | Oct 09 11:40 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz who was threatning you | Oct 09 11:40 |
Diablo-D3 | so I largely ignore him | Oct 09 11:40 |
koolhead17 | :D | Oct 09 11:40 |
DaemonFC | as in ass burgers? | Oct 09 11:40 |
schestowitz | koolhead17: one of my stalkers | Oct 09 11:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] For many people who stand up for truth and not misdirection supported by corporate press, the gloves come off now. | Oct 09 11:40 | |
*Diablo-D3 stalks schestowitz | Oct 09 11:40 | |
*Diablo-D3 stalks schestowitz's fridge instead | Oct 09 11:40 | |
schestowitz | it doesn't have much that's interesting in it | Oct 09 11:41 |
koolhead17 | Diablo-D3: :P | Oct 09 11:41 |
*Diablo-D3 stalks his own fridge instead | Oct 09 11:41 | |
schestowitz | mayo, eggs, butter, milk., beerl.. | Oct 09 11:41 |
Diablo-D3 | ooh, leftovers! | Oct 09 11:41 |
schestowitz | no, I have a strict diet | Oct 09 11:42 |
schestowitz | so my fridge has no foods that are luxurious, intentionally | Oct 09 11:42 |
schestowitz | the beer is for occasions when friends come around | Oct 09 11:42 |
Diablo-D3 | heh, if I had a strict diet... I would weigh much less :< | Oct 09 11:42 |
koolhead17 | :) | Oct 09 11:42 |
koolhead17 | beer!! | Oct 09 11:42 |
schestowitz | I aactually have two fridges | Oct 09 11:42 |
Diablo-D3 | one for beer exclusively? | Oct 09 11:43 |
schestowitz | one I leave off the hook, I don't have use for it at the moment | Oct 09 11:43 |
schestowitz | BTW, food prices are increasing here now | Oct 09 11:43 |
schestowitz | Just as many predicted | Oct 09 11:43 |
Diablo-D3 | predicted? | Oct 09 11:43 |
Diablo-D3 | dude | Oct 09 11:43 |
Diablo-D3 | food prices have been going up for the last 4 years | Oct 09 11:43 |
Diablo-D3 | where the fuck have you been | Oct 09 11:43 |
schestowitz | A friend and I spoke about what the value will be in buying like half a ton of strategic foods and stocking these | Oct 09 11:44 |
schestowitz | it can be fitted into the car | Oct 09 11:44 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: but not so sharply | Oct 09 11:44 |
Diablo-D3 | its been here | Oct 09 11:44 |
schestowitz | transpiration costs relate to this | Oct 09 11:45 |
schestowitz | Energy prices too | Oct 09 11:45 |
schestowitz | Going higher here, much higher | Oct 09 11:45 |
schestowitz | Not many people talk about it, but usually it's only when prices of particular food soar that people are up in arms | Oct 09 11:45 |
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schestowitz | iophk: good comment | Oct 09 11:46 |
schestowitz | Wait until; that happens | Oct 09 11:46 |
schestowitz | The #1 media whore will outdo any death before | Oct 09 11:46 |
schestowitz | Even Princess Diana and Michael Jackson | Oct 09 11:46 |
schestowitz | Maybe they'll spend $30bn on post-death hype :-) | Oct 09 11:47 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Neat ! Changed the boot animation on the Nexus One to this - http://ur1.ca/5cell... http://b1t.it/GIq | Oct 09 11:47 | |
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schestowitz | trickled 1 billion a year, for 30 years | Oct 09 11:47 |
Diablo-D3 | so famous people dying is good for the economy | Oct 09 11:47 |
schestowitz | No | Oct 09 11:47 |
schestowitz | Good for oligarchy | Oct 09 11:47 |
schestowitz | It reminds us how worthless we are | Oct 09 11:47 |
schestowitz | And how we should admire super-rich people | Oct 09 11:47 |
Diablo-D3 | thats the irony | Oct 09 11:47 |
Diablo-D3 | since we are all created equal | Oct 09 11:48 |
schestowitz | Because they are just so darn wonderful | Oct 09 11:48 |
Diablo-D3 | the more they prove we are worthless, the more they do to themselves | Oct 09 11:48 |
schestowitz | To some it shows that the rich are also fragile, in which case we view them as mortal and as peers, even while they pillage and plunder | Oct 09 11:48 |
Diablo-D3 | they are more fragile. | Oct 09 11:48 |
Diablo-D3 | what can do you do a poor person? take away their money? bwhahaahah. | Oct 09 11:49 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84496134 | Oct 09 11:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 10:23:06 UTC - Identi.ca: Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal http://ur1.ca/ozjy stealing thunders | Oct 09 11:49 |
TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal - YouTube .::. Size~: 90.91 KB | Oct 09 11:49 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: meg | Oct 09 11:49 |
schestowitz | meh | Oct 09 11:49 |
Diablo-D3 | rich people, silly dumb people | Oct 09 11:50 |
Diablo-D3 | they have nothing to offer me | Oct 09 11:50 |
iophk | Motto of the 1990's : "steal with pride" | Oct 09 11:50 |
Diablo-D3 | I don't have time for subhumans. | Oct 09 11:50 |
Diablo-D3 | Poor imitations of the species | Oct 09 11:50 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Piękno Ciszy Wyborczej w Polsce: rys.io/pl/38 | The Beauty of Election Silence in Poland: rys.io/en/38 !polska #wybory2011 #wybory | Oct 09 11:50 | |
MinceR | most of the species is like that | Oct 09 11:51 |
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koolhead17 | schestowitz you never knew that jobs used to steal :) | Oct 09 11:57 |
schestowitz | I did, I wrote about it | Oct 09 11:58 |
DaemonFC | at this point, it's not really proper to accuse any GUI of stealing | Oct 09 11:58 |
schestowitz | !google steve jobs dtealing | Oct 09 11:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - The Posthumous Looting (and stealing) from Steve Jobs - alt ... | http://groups.google.com/group/alt.obituaries/browse_thread/thread/52683468fd02aa5e | Oct 09 11:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Steve Jobs - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs | Oct 09 11:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCW0DUg63lqU | Oct 09 11:58 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Samsung Accuses Steve Jobs Of Stealing Ideas For iPad, iPhone ... | http://www.uproxx.com/technology/2011/08/samsung-accuses-steve-jobs-of-stealing-ideas-for-ipad-iphone-from-stanley-kubrick/ | Oct 09 11:58 |
DaemonFC | if a GUI concept is worth doing, it has probably already been done | Oct 09 11:58 |
schestowitz | This new one is ruined by a pile of rubbish of Gates PR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRc9qkhVQQs&feature=digest_refresh_sat | Oct 09 11:59 |
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DaemonFC | though they still allow patents on this kind of stuff which is ridiculous | Oct 09 11:59 |
schestowitz | Playing along with the Gates myth :/ | Oct 09 11:59 |
MinceR | all the important parts were invented by Engelbart anyway | Oct 09 12:00 |
DaemonFC | I liked Stallman's example of software patents | Oct 09 12:00 |
MinceR | and perhaps by the Smalltalk developers | Oct 09 12:00 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Miniconf announcement: Availability aims high @linuxconfau bit.ly/n88s80 CfP now open. | Oct 09 12:00 | |
MinceR | everything else are just incremental improvements on the idea | Oct 09 12:00 |
DaemonFC | what would we do if they allowed musical notes or common food spices to be patented? | Oct 09 12:00 |
DaemonFC | the more of them that are out there, the harder they are to avoid while making something anyone wants | Oct 09 12:01 |
*MinceR patents oxygen molecules | Oct 09 12:01 | |
MinceR | pay or suffocate! | Oct 09 12:01 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: Did you notice my comments on Jimenez's MLAA? | Oct 09 12:02 |
MinceR | no | Oct 09 12:02 |
DaemonFC | https://daemonfc.wordpress.com/2011/10/09/mesa3d-and-the-art-of-slipping-proprietary-software-through-the-back-door/ | Oct 09 12:02 |
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DaemonFC | I'm wondering if I am going to far in calling this nonfree, I don't think I am | Oct 09 12:03 |
DaemonFC | but it's several thousand lines of code under a license that says only Mesa can use it | Oct 09 12:03 |
MinceR | could be risky | Oct 09 12:03 |
MinceR | but at least you can just turn it off and stuff keeps working | Oct 09 12:03 |
MinceR | unlike mono | Oct 09 12:04 |
MinceR | which some applications already depend on | Oct 09 12:04 |
iophk | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1862524.ece | Oct 09 12:05 |
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MinceR | would probably be safer as a separate package | Oct 09 12:05 |
iophk | Mono dependency is a bad problem that Ubuntu needs to address. | Oct 09 12:05 |
MinceR | iophk: lol | Oct 09 12:06 |
MinceR | @ patenting yoga | Oct 09 12:06 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: S3TC and float textures are not as risky as importing features Microsoft wrote for DirectX | Oct 09 12:06 |
DaemonFC | under a nonfree license | Oct 09 12:06 |
DaemonFC | I've played around with their MLAA, and they're right that it is very fast, because it makes everything look smudgy | Oct 09 12:07 |
DaemonFC | I don't think it's worth having just because it doesn't bring a lot of value even if it was free and unencumbered | Oct 09 12:07 |
MinceR | so it's like mono? :> | Oct 09 12:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 9/10/2011: Kororaa 15 “Squirt”, Android 4.0 Expected Soon http://is.gd/iD5lUf #techrights | Oct 09 12:08 | |
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DaemonFC | well, no anti-aliasing and MLAA is a choice between maybe a little jagged and no CPU overhead vs. some CPU overhead to make everything look smudgy | Oct 09 12:09 |
DaemonFC | so I'm not sure one is really better than the other | Oct 09 12:09 |
MinceR | is MLAA just blurring the image after it's been rendered? | Oct 09 12:10 |
DaemonFC | yes, it is a post-processing blur filter | Oct 09 12:10 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 12:10 |
MinceR | who the hell thinks that's a good idea? | Oct 09 12:10 |
DaemonFC | I don't | Oct 09 12:10 |
MinceR | they must have been absent when they taught antialiasing at school | Oct 09 12:10 |
DaemonFC | fake antialiasing to make DirectX seem faster | Oct 09 12:11 |
DaemonFC | is what I would call this | Oct 09 12:11 |
MinceR | hell, i could run my LCD under its native resolution and call it "hardware MLAA" | Oct 09 12:13 |
MinceR | take that, microsoft! | Oct 09 12:13 |
DaemonFC | no fair! | Oct 09 12:14 |
DaemonFC | pay Ballmer now! | Oct 09 12:14 |
DaemonFC | Ballmer smash! | Oct 09 12:14 |
DaemonFC | Ballmer SMAAAAASH!!! | Oct 09 12:14 |
DaemonFC | why do they have a CEO who makes bad business decisions, a bad temper, and who looks like a proto-human? | Oct 09 12:15 |
Diablo-D3 | mno, thats not very morphological | Oct 09 12:15 |
DaemonFC | *has a bad temper | Oct 09 12:15 |
Diablo-D3 | and its kinda stupid anyhow | Oct 09 12:15 |
DaemonFC | MinceR: I was reading a Stephen Sinofsky blog post about Vista 8 and memory usage | Oct 09 12:16 |
DaemonFC | it seems that they finally have NIH'd their very own event driven init | Oct 09 12:16 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 12:16 |
DaemonFC | Vista 7 kind of had this but it only took care of not running the most bloated Vista services all the time | Oct 09 12:16 |
DaemonFC | they just seem to be going further with that | Oct 09 12:17 |
MinceR | i don't see what's "morphological" about blindly throwing a blur filter at an image | Oct 09 12:19 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] zero sum game | Oct 09 12:22 | |
DaemonFC | MinceR: Something else that's funny | Oct 09 12:22 |
DaemonFC | That Bluetack place that makes those ip filter lists for p2p programs | Oct 09 12:22 |
DaemonFC | they have a Windows program to make or merge lists written in Visual Basic | Oct 09 12:22 |
DaemonFC | but sort did everything I needed | Oct 09 12:23 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 12:23 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw4s6QoeSak&NR=1 | Oct 09 12:23 |
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DaemonFC | I saw an article the other day that said Microsoft is planning to get rid of VB.NET by merging it into C# | Oct 09 12:24 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw4s6QoeSak&NR=1 | Oct 09 12:24 |
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MinceR | they could just rename VB.NET to C# | Oct 09 12:25 |
DaemonFC | I'm sure when it happens, Miguel de Icaza will be doing cartwheels on Planet GNOME | Oct 09 12:25 |
DaemonFC | screaming about how ZOMG wonderful BBC#.NET is | Oct 09 12:25 |
DaemonFC | *VBC | Oct 09 12:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] The Bush administration knowingly destroyed irreplaceable historical artifacts and sites http://identi.ca/url/54039435 | Oct 09 12:25 | |
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schestowitz | koolhead17: http://twitter.com/madcap_loon/statuses/122984798284292096 | Oct 09 12:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @madcap_loon: RT @schestowitz Steve Jobs: Good artists copy great artists steal http://t.co/JwRFHW27 <-- did he say Apple heavily steals? Whoa, didnt know | Oct 09 12:25 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 09 12:25 |
DaemonFC | they literally sit up at night wondering how they could make their products worse | Oct 09 12:26 |
DaemonFC | don't they? | Oct 09 12:26 |
schestowitz | THey just worry about OEMs | Oct 09 12:26 |
schestowitz | or choice | Oct 09 12:26 |
schestowitz | they need to foit their crpa | Oct 09 12:26 |
schestowitz | anyway, gotta get going | Oct 09 12:27 |
koolhead17 | schestowitz haha. i know that guy too :) | Oct 09 12:36 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wikileaks Bring Winds of Change, even to Rural Zimbabwe | Sokwanele http://t.co/SMc3PMn2 | Oct 09 12:58 | |
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koolhead17 | schestowitz http://twitter.com/#!/hiddenharmony/status/123001835350011905 | Oct 09 13:10 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @hiddenharmony: If Stallman had a billion dollars of assets with him, no one would have found his comments absurd... | Oct 09 13:10 |
koolhead17 | :) | Oct 09 13:10 |
DaemonFC | [08:08] <DaemonFC> for a moment I was scratching my head at all the OS X work being planned for Wine, then I remembered they have Crossover on OS X | Oct 09 13:12 |
DaemonFC | [08:08] <DaemonFC> I think that if an OS X user went to use Wine, they'd give up | Oct 09 13:13 |
DaemonFC | [08:08] <DaemonFC> I Know there are ports trees for OS X but come on, really.... really? :) | Oct 09 13:13 |
DaemonFC | put that in another room by mistake | Oct 09 13:13 |
DaemonFC | but, I think the most likely thing they'll do is go buy Windows like Apple tells them to | Oct 09 13:13 |
DaemonFC | but they must make some money on Crossover for OS X or they wouldn't have it | Oct 09 13:13 |
DaemonFC | I just struggle to think of an OS X user that would use it | Oct 09 13:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks Central Occupy Wall Street coverage http://t.co/YO6Yw8Qm #occupywallst | Oct 09 13:23 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Eric #Raymond Defends #Stallman Over #Jobs Remarks - Slashdot - http://goo.gl/uxccl | Oct 09 13:42 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video of journalists & politicians calling for the assassination of Julian Assange http://t.co/zi3UnxAV | Oct 09 13:43 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] B&N Yanks DC Titles After Exclusive #Amazon Deal - Slashdot #books #FAIL #dirtytricks http://goo.gl/lC3WN | Oct 09 13:47 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] Finding !gnu #Octave real useful | Oct 09 14:05 | |
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DaemonFC | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/10/09/0639255/un-bigwig-the-web-should-have-been-patented-and-licensed | Oct 09 14:18 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] WikiLeaks lecture: Our Impact on Journalism and Government http://t.co/wGw6ffwX | Oct 09 14:25 | |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: I should be available tonight for a recording, after 7pm though probably. | Oct 09 14:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] How do I get my running instance of #klipper to function again? Works for new/different user(s), deleting configs doesn't help. !kde | Oct 09 14:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[openbytes/@openbytes] A must have purchase for Windows Phone 7 developers: http://goo.gl/iVv9S #wp7 #windows #microsoft #mvpbuzz #mvp | Oct 09 14:33 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Wars are products of lies; but if lies can create wars, truth can create peace. | Oct 09 14:33 | |
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amarsh04 | back in a few | Oct 09 14:42 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #ZFS on #Linux - "ZFS is an advanced file system and volume manager which was originally developed for #Solaris" http://zfsonlinux.org/ | Oct 09 14:53 | |
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amarsh04 | np: Chiaki Ishikawa - music from Sengoku Basara | Oct 09 14:54 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @Sander_R_ alles aan het moven van server. Excuses | Oct 09 14:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] http://ur1.ca/5cfsi is a #javascript and image dependent mess /cc @nj3ma @kelzOKO @fredmanglis ... still glad it's there though | Oct 09 14:58 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] !linuxlibre deblob scripts updated for 3.1-rc9, get them at http://ur1.ca/5cftz | Oct 09 15:03 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.opensource.org/blog/OpenCore | Oct 09 15:11 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] RT @blackhalo “Why Richard M Stallman Is Right About Steve Jobs | Muktware”: http://identi.ca/url/54027794 | Oct 09 15:16 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #FBI Plans Nationwide Face-Recognition Trials In 2012 - Slashdot #usa #surveillance #policestate http://goo.gl/wNvzG + http://goo.gl/9Bwrw | Oct 09 15:16 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] Sobre las palabras de Stallman acerca de Jobs: http://atalaya.blogalia.com/historias/70546 #stallman #spanish | Oct 09 15:21 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] voted for "Yes" | Oct 09 15:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Camerapedia - #photography - "repository of information about all still camera brands and models" http://ur1.ca/5cg0f | Oct 09 15:33 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @cwebber: My father had up a sign up in his classroom that said "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you stand alone" | Oct 09 15:38 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] The official Dilbert website with Scott Adams' | Facial Recognition #funny but true... http://ur1.ca/5cg25 | Oct 09 15:43 | |
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AdmFubar_ | :) | Oct 09 15:52 |
AdmFubar_ | hi all... don know if anyone has seen this yet at boing boing | Oct 09 15:53 |
AdmFubar_ | http://boingboing.net/2011/10/08/wipo-boss-the-web-would-have-been-better-if-it-was-patented-and-its-users-had-to-pay-license-fees.html | Oct 09 15:53 |
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AdmFubar_ | later all.. | Oct 09 15:53 |
AdmFubar_ | time for some yard work before the cold weather gets here | Oct 09 15:53 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[docufoundation/@docufoundation] LibreOffice Conference ad-hoc information will be posted to Identi.ca and Twitter: http://bit.ly/qTLITQ #libocon | Oct 09 16:01 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[faither/@faither] Whaaaa! Clipboard gone mad -.- !kde Can c/p once between apps. To do it again (or want new content) I have to restart the application -.- | Oct 09 16:03 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Skrooge 1.0.0 personal finance manager released - The H Open Source #flosstools #kde http://goo.gl/gYLZ8 http://skrooge.org/ | Oct 09 16:03 | |
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DaemonFC | MinceR: did I mention I found out what was wrong with Trine that stops it from working with free video drivers? | Oct 09 16:15 |
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DaemonFC | I found that they shipped a broken standard C library with it | Oct 09 16:16 |
DaemonFC | if you just delete it, the game will use the system copy and load | Oct 09 16:16 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #Halliburton and the UN: Patent Globalisation, Monopoly Maximalism, and Software Patents http://is.gd/Ylmkjn #swpats | Oct 09 16:21 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/247866_165549540175272_100001606803062_458231_7998369_n.jpg | Oct 09 16:30 |
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DaemonFC | I posted that on my Facebook | Oct 09 16:30 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] An analysis of alleged German governmental malware http://ur1.ca/5cgb9 | Oct 09 16:31 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Apple Has 1,000 Engineers Working On Chips For Post-PC Era - http://tcrn.ch/nxgKh6 “Getting low power & smaller is the key to everything” | Oct 09 16:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] FDP will von Piraten lernen - http://bit.ly/odmwsG and not just the FDP #pirateparty #germany | Oct 09 16:39 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With Microsoft, Drones Can Crash Into Buildings http://ur1.ca/5cgch #security #drones | Oct 09 16:39 | |
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DaemonFC | schestowitz: I heard someone propose that the malware installed was by another part of the government | Oct 09 16:40 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Google Must Be Feeling Burned For Investing In IV - http://read.bi/nvOSV5 there are no long spoons when you're dining with #trolls | Oct 09 16:41 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: next post goes out to you :-) | Oct 09 16:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Microsoft Software ‘Donations’ Are a Clever Scam http://ur1.ca/5cgf3 #microsoft #edgi #pr | Oct 09 16:48 | |
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schestowitz | The one after this | Oct 09 16:48 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] What newsrooms can learn from #opensource and maker culture - http://bit.ly/nc8fgN "think about the story as code" (v @mbauwens) #journalism | Oct 09 16:53 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2011/10/09/suse-is-led-by-microsoft/ | Oct 09 16:54 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #SUSE is Led by #Microsoft http://ur1.ca/5cggy #novell #sles #redhat #debian | Oct 09 16:56 | |
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DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 16:56 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I talked to Getty in #duckduckgo btw | Oct 09 16:57 |
DaemonFC | he says their goal is to transition away from Bing | Oct 09 16:57 |
DaemonFC | he admits they depend on it more heavily than they should | Oct 09 16:58 |
DaemonFC | but notes that a user's personal data is never exposed to Microsoft | Oct 09 16:58 |
DaemonFC | and that their sorting system and their duckduckbot crawler filter out the crap, rearrange the results and add stuff that Bing wouldn't return | Oct 09 16:58 |
DaemonFC | so it is not the same as using Bing and their goal is to move to a system that includes more of their own results and scraping more engines, such as Google | Oct 09 16:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] ♻ @notmart: Ladies and Gentlemen, #Plasma #active One is released: http://ur1.ca/5cgh1 #kde #91011 !eol | Oct 09 17:00 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] I am unsubscribing from !debian !gnu and !linux. I will be back when the poll spam problem has been sorted. | Oct 09 17:03 | |
schestowitz | DaemonFC: cool | Oct 09 17:05 |
schestowitz | no msft in ddg and then I'll use them | Oct 09 17:05 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Remembering Jeff Buckely's Grace - http://bit.ly/q88t0P incredible voice, tremendous loss to music | Oct 09 17:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #OpenSUSE Wants Donations, Loses Volunteers Force http://ur1.ca/5cgjm #suse #gnu #linux | Oct 09 17:06 | |
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DaemonFC | Why don't they ditch the SUSE branding and AttachMate agenda | Oct 09 17:08 |
DaemonFC | then ask for people to consider them a community distribution | Oct 09 17:08 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Thomas Biege Leaves the SUSE Security Team http://ur1.ca/5cgkh #suse #microsoft | Oct 09 17:13 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] "Why don't they ditch the SUSE branding and AttachMate agenda.. then ask for people to consider them a community distribution" -Ryan | Oct 09 17:13 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/blog/2011/10/has-gnome-3-decided-that-people-shouldnt-want-screen-savers/ | Oct 09 17:22 |
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DaemonFC | lol | Oct 09 17:22 |
DaemonFC | "Apparently the Gnome 3 party line is that if you want something more visually pleasing than "lock your screen and power off the monitor", you are wanting something that is Wrong." | Oct 09 17:22 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Occupy Wall Street is an open source protest - http://bit.ly/nFB5IU oh my word yes; and: "We are going to see more" (v @mbauwens) | Oct 09 17:26 | |
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DaemonFC | [12:28] <DaemonFC> "Go find a Windows XP driver, and hope you're not using the 64-bit version of FreeBSD" | Oct 09 17:34 |
DaemonFC | [12:28] <DaemonFC> is not a good answer | Oct 09 17:34 |
DaemonFC | [12:29] <DaemonFC> let's plug a Windows driver into the kernel, and after that we can go stick some metal coat hangers in a light socket | Oct 09 17:34 |
DaemonFC | [12:29] <DaemonFC> just for fun | Oct 09 17:34 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 17:34 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] With OEM Distortion, #Microsoft Need Not Compete http://ur1.ca/5cgoy #linux #uefi | Oct 09 17:36 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[pietercolpaert/@pietercolpaert] RT @ pietercolpaert: @JeroenDeDauw oh! Is het frietkot open daar? Heb een hongertje | Oct 09 17:36 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Rackspace Aims to Spin Off OpenStack into a Foundation http://ur1.ca/5cgpq | Oct 09 17:39 | |
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schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84499966 | Oct 09 17:48 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 16:21:58 UTC - Identi.ca: .NET Does Not Want to Die Just Yet http://ur1.ca/5cgnk #mono #xamarin #swpats | Oct 09 17:48 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steve Jobs’ Aggressive Legacy and #Microsoft Boosters Continue to Haunt #Linux Phones http://ur1.ca/5cgrm | Oct 09 17:48 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC: lol | Oct 09 17:49 |
schestowitz | ok | Oct 09 17:49 |
schestowitz | done all 9 posts in 1.5 hours | Oct 09 17:49 |
schestowitz | but wrote them in the gym mostly | Oct 09 17:50 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: I noticed that with the OpenGL ES backend for kwin, it works better if you force vsync off globally and disable swapbufferswait | Oct 09 17:53 |
DaemonFC | pretty much the opposite of what I was expecting | Oct 09 17:53 |
DaemonFC | vsync gets rid of the very little tearing and makes window management choppy instead | Oct 09 17:53 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/84499518 | Oct 09 18:06 |
schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/84457115#notice-84499518 | Oct 09 18:06 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @Sander (sandersch)'s status on Sunday, 09-Oct-11 15:46:53 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz not that clever, but people are stupid. | Oct 09 18:06 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] great, still nobody from identica following my instance... | Oct 09 18:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[trashbird1240/@trashbird1240] Birds dream of being rock stars, too @plos http://bit.ly/p6hcQD | Oct 09 18:15 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Nonprofit Unix Time Zone Database Shut Down after Lawsuit http://ur1.ca/5ch08 | Oct 09 18:18 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] !fsf !gnu http://wh.gov/gEm US citizens should sign this petition to end sw patents | Oct 09 18:25 | |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[tekk/@tekk] ah, maybe. I stopped posting temporarily while I got people to subscribe there. | Oct 09 18:28 | |
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hi ho | Oct 09 18:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Plasma Active One released http://ur1.ca/5ch35 | Oct 09 18:29 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] A virtual secret state: the military-industrial complex 2.0 http://gu.com/p/32fh2 | Oct 09 18:29 | |
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_Goblin | schestowitz: all being well...around 1900 ish I should be ready....if you are.... | Oct 09 18:31 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: it may be closer to 2000.... | Oct 09 18:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxnews/@lxnews] Next Ubuntu Version Named "Precise Pangolin" http://ur1.ca/5ch4g | Oct 09 18:34 | |
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DaemonFC | http://www.robertyu.com/wikiperdido/C++%20A%20Garbage%20Heap%20of%20Ideas | Oct 09 18:42 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why !FSF Founder Richard Stallman is Wrong on Steve Jobs http://goo.gl/AjUxH /by Joe Brockmeier | Oct 09 18:44 | |
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cubezzz | getting cold calls about windows virus scanners | Oct 09 18:45 |
cubezzz | pretty funny | Oct 09 18:45 |
cubezzz | so when they asked which OS I used I said I use every OS except windows :) | Oct 09 18:46 |
cubezzz | plus I haven't had a virus on my amiga in 20 years | Oct 09 18:47 |
DaemonFC | I told a telemarketer that I had a Commodore 64 (I do, in the closet) | Oct 09 18:48 |
DaemonFC | then they didn't seem to know what it was because they continued their sales pitch | Oct 09 18:49 |
cubezzz | sales pitch for what? | Oct 09 18:49 |
DaemonFC | Rosetta Stone | Oct 09 18:50 |
DaemonFC | :( | Oct 09 18:50 |
cubezzz | sometimes I can't believe so many people use windows | Oct 09 18:52 |
iophk | A lot of people don't know that they are using Windows®, and use the word to mean GUI. | Oct 09 18:53 |
cubezzz | well it's the OEMs, I guess they are just knackered | Oct 09 18:53 |
cubezzz | at least acer laptops work well with Fedora 14 | Oct 09 18:54 |
azalyn | i don't see why people keep attacking stallman. | Oct 09 18:59 |
iophk | azalyn: because he is both outspoken and right | Oct 09 18:59 |
iophk | it's easier to attack the man than the message | Oct 09 18:59 |
iophk | and by attacking the man they can distract from the message | Oct 09 19:00 |
cubezzz | azalyn, that's been going on since the 80's | Oct 09 19:00 |
schestowitz | someone today called me a "eunuch" | Oct 09 19:00 |
azalyn | the only thing i disagree with in his comment about jobs is that the word 'gone' can be interpreted as if he's happy that jobs is dead. but in his post he goes to great pains to say that this isn't what he means. | Oct 09 19:00 |
cubezzz | they were throwing words like communist around a lot even then | Oct 09 19:00 |
schestowitz | some sick trolls who links to libel he himself planted | Oct 09 19:00 |
azalyn | he's glad that jobs isn't in charge of apple anymore, and hopes that his replacement(s) will have more sense. | Oct 09 19:01 |
schestowitz | RMS will get flak for the Jobs remark for years to come | Oct 09 19:01 |
azalyn | not that he's dead. | Oct 09 19:01 |
schestowitz | he also took a reputation injury after another troll, the ACCESS one, tried to label him a sexist | Oct 09 19:01 |
schestowitz | I've been getting flak over jobs for almost month though, since he had stepped down | Oct 09 19:02 |
iophk | It was too easy to take the Jobs remark out of context. | Oct 09 19:02 |
azalyn | one problem is that rms doesn't play the political correctness game. he's more blunt. and some people don't like that. | Oct 09 19:02 |
cubezzz | Apple was like the snob company | Oct 09 19:02 |
schestowitz | azalyn: some news sites misled | Oct 09 19:02 |
cubezzz | "all the CEO's I met had apple II's not commodore 64's" | Oct 09 19:02 |
schestowitz | like I explained this morning, they only quoted the latter part | Oct 09 19:02 |
schestowitz | but the former was esssentialy | Oct 09 19:02 |
schestowitz | they said he was happy jobs is gone | Oct 09 19:02 |
schestowitz | which makes it sounds like he's happy about the death | Oct 09 19:02 |
schestowitz | al;thgough twice before he said "gone" he emphasises he was not happy about the death | Oct 09 19:03 |
schestowitz | SJVN played a role in this deception | Oct 09 19:03 |
schestowitz | shameful,. not surprising though | Oct 09 19:03 |
iophk | RMS probably would have been given more slack if he had waited a few days, it was too soon. | Oct 09 19:03 |
azalyn | yeah, that feels like a backstab. | Oct 09 19:03 |
azalyn | svjn has always been more or less on our side. | Oct 09 19:03 |
iophk | I had expected more insight from SJVN. I think he took it out of context, too. | Oct 09 19:03 |
schestowitz | azalyn: he has | Oct 09 19:04 |
iophk | RMS statement had to be read carefully. | Oct 09 19:04 |
schestowitz | some techrights people don't like sjvn | Oct 09 19:04 |
iophk | to be understood. | Oct 09 19:04 |
schestowitz | but i almost always defend him | Oct 09 19:04 |
cubezzz | RMS is a prickily pear | Oct 09 19:04 |
schestowitz | iophk: not just "too" | Oct 09 19:04 |
azalyn | the problem is that the world likes to play political games, and rms doesn't like to play along with that. | Oct 09 19:04 |
schestowitz | I think he was the first among those who put it in the Google-fuers hands | Oct 09 19:05 |
schestowitz | he snipped a bit | Oct 09 19:05 |
schestowitz | maybe put the "M" in because other Richard Stallmans exist who are notable | Oct 09 19:05 |
iophk | Apropos political games, unfortunately we can turn his own quote back at him:, "you can avoid politics but politics won't avoid you" | Oct 09 19:05 |
schestowitz | RMS was not being a PC :-) | Oct 09 19:05 |
schestowitz | Politically-correct | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | SJVN said | Oct 09 19:06 |
cubezzz | he's the least PC person I know :) | Oct 09 19:06 |
azalyn | yeah iophk, that's probably rms's only problem. | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | "is you have nothing good to say, say nothing" | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | opr something like | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | that | Oct 09 19:06 |
DaemonFC | nasal sex with plants is most definitely not PC | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | a famous saying | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | But.. | Oct 09 19:06 |
azalyn | that either he doesn't realize, or doesn't care about how politics can be used against him. | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | Jobs is not some grandpa | Oct 09 19:06 |
azalyn | to twist what he says. | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | He's a public figure | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | Causes a lot of pain to many Chinese | Oct 09 19:06 |
DaemonFC | he was | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | And harms Linux, devs, etc. | Oct 09 19:06 |
iophk | Jobs was a very public figure. | Oct 09 19:06 |
schestowitz | So the same rules NEVER apply to public figure | Oct 09 19:06 |
azalyn | most people think the FSF is all radical and shit.. but it's actually a lot more benign than most people think.. | Oct 09 19:07 |
schestowitz | I often have to explain this to my friends. They can't quite tell apart people who are offender by such remarks and super-rich villains who stomp on people | Oct 09 19:07 |
azalyn | for example, some people are surprised to find out that the FSF doesn't really mind if artwork is free or not. it's a good thing, but it's not an ethical issue on the same level as software. | Oct 09 19:07 |
schestowitz | Ron Hovsepian=public figure | Oct 09 19:07 |
azalyn | like when asked about game engines, stallman says you could keep art assets closed.. | Oct 09 19:07 |
iophk | CEOs of large companies are public figures. | Oct 09 19:07 |
azalyn | and release the game engine only. | Oct 09 19:08 |
schestowitz | Tso= not a public figure really | Oct 09 19:08 |
iophk | Jobs tried not to be too public, he kept his private life mostly private. | Oct 09 19:08 |
cubezzz | all the major games are closed | Oct 09 19:08 |
cubezzz | very few are ever opened | Oct 09 19:08 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz: Why do you figure there's so many Vuze users? | Oct 09 19:08 |
schestowitz | [19:06] <iophk> Jobs was a very public figure. < h was a charlantan and king of the chalatan | Oct 09 19:08 |
DaemonFC | what the hell good is it? | Oct 09 19:08 |
azalyn | the 'opensource' crowd (as opposed to the 'free software' crowd) are too concerned with not offending the sensibilities of the proprietary software industry. | Oct 09 19:09 |
schestowitz | Apple thrives in selling people the idea of becoming public figures so magically because their laptop has an apple-shared light | Oct 09 19:09 |
schestowitz | *shaped | Oct 09 19:09 |
azalyn | deep down they may have the same goals, but the opensource crowd seems to think they can succeed better with a cloak and dagger strategy. | Oct 09 19:09 |
azalyn | like "we'll pretend we're ok with proprietary software, until we're in control" | Oct 09 19:09 |
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azalyn | so they don't talk about freedom, and only talk about technical advantages. | Oct 09 19:10 |
azalyn | but if you don't talk about freedom, then other companies can just claim that they have those technical advantages too. | Oct 09 19:10 |
iophk | schestowitz: his management style could be difficultl: | Oct 09 19:10 |
iophk | www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Are_You_Gonna_Do_It.txt | Oct 09 19:10 |
azalyn | like microsoft has been doing over the years... claiming that they're secure and everything.. | Oct 09 19:10 |
azalyn | and now they're using 'security', which has always been linux's schtick, against linux, with secure boot. | Oct 09 19:11 |
azalyn | the FSF was right, we should have fought this war on the basis of freedom from the start. because that's the one thing microsoft's marketing department will never be able to compete with. | Oct 09 19:11 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Segundo as sondagens, o caro Alberto da Madeira, deu mais um bailinho aos senhores do PS e CDS. | Oct 09 19:11 | |
azalyn | or twist, or corrupt. | Oct 09 19:11 |
I agree | Oct 09 19:12 | |
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schestowitz | Techrights is not like the FSF | Oct 09 19:12 |
schestowitz | I remember in 2006 and 2007 some people called us an FSF campaign | Oct 09 19:13 |
schestowitz | Which I thought was funny | Oct 09 19:13 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @wayneborean Follow up: The Economics of the Writing Business – in which I repair a messed up spreadsheet http://ur1.ca/5ce7d !SelfPub | Oct 09 19:13 | |
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schestowitz | he FSF was not so openly and vigorously against Novell | Oct 09 19:13 |
iophk | Well, Techrights can be FSF as Groklaw was IBM ;) | Oct 09 19:13 |
azalyn | oh, another thing.. the mere *existence* of the LGPL is proof that the FSF isn't as radical as people say. | Oct 09 19:13 |
he would have gotten it no matter what he said. -> schestowitz: RMS will get flak for the Jobs remark for years to come | Oct 09 19:13 | |
schestowitz | It's helping neither side when people fuse different factions together and tie them together for embarrassing things. Also robs them of idnetities | Oct 09 19:14 |
schestowitz | I notice among trolls | Oct 09 19:14 |
DaemonFC | http://www.jwz.org/doc/cddb.htmllol | Oct 09 19:14 |
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schestowitz | 1) | Oct 09 19:14 |
azalyn | the LGPL *explicitly* allows the linking of proprietary software to free software code. | Oct 09 19:14 |
schestowitz | me being characterised as a worshipper of RMS | Oct 09 19:14 |
DaemonFC | azalyn: Opera links against a lot of LGPL stuff | Oct 09 19:14 |
schestowitz | which is absurd | Oct 09 19:14 |
DaemonFC | including the GNU C library | Oct 09 19:14 |
DaemonFC | and Gstreamer | Oct 09 19:14 |
azalyn | DaemonFC: yeah. that's what i'm saying. | Oct 09 19:14 |
azalyn | people have this idea that the FSF is radical | Oct 09 19:14 |
schestowitz | 2) people being insulted by being called my "puppy" or something, trying to dissociate them from techrights | Oct 09 19:14 |
schestowitz | befoire you know it they compare FSF to Marxist | Oct 09 19:15 |
DaemonFC | I think the LGPL is better than permissive licenses or the GPL | Oct 09 19:15 |
schestowitz | Based on no substance whatsoever | Oct 09 19:15 |
DaemonFC | the free software stays free | Oct 09 19:15 |
DaemonFC | but it doesn't demand that everything that touches it be GPL | Oct 09 19:15 |
schestowitz | And someone today claimed I was anti-Red Hat, which is defamatory imho | Oct 09 19:15 |
schestowitz | The Ender troll played part in that | Oct 09 19:15 |
schestowitz | [19:14] <azalyn> people have this idea that the FSF is radical | Oct 09 19:15 |
schestowitz | it's all PR | Oct 09 19:16 |
iophk | That what eases the work (I assume it is paid) of the trolls. They do not need to base it on substance of any kind. | Oct 09 19:16 |
schestowitz | See some of the aritlces about the RMS Jobs debacle | Oct 09 19:16 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, seems he's gone now though | Oct 09 19:16 |
azalyn | DaemonFC: well, it depends.. the thing is you could use the lgpl as a loophole to create a project with a massive amount of binary blobs.. so yeah.. | Oct 09 19:16 |
schestowitz | They delibeerately choose bad photos of RMS | Oct 09 19:16 |
azalyn | but generally it's not done. | Oct 09 19:16 |
schestowitz | Unlike SJVN for example | Oct 09 19:16 |
cubezzz | guess he got tired arguing with everybody | Oct 09 19:16 |
anyone who agrees that software freedom will be attacked this way -> schestowitz: me being characterised as a worshipper of RMS | Oct 09 19:16 | |
schestowitz | He sort of tried to make it look respectable | Oct 09 19:16 |
DaemonFC | azalyn: Opera has given back patches against the open source stuff they use | Oct 09 19:16 |
schestowitz | Then there's the grooming by MS fans of de Icaza (and sometimes Torvalds) as a tool to cause a rift | Oct 09 19:16 |
schestowitz | tryint to push out RMS | Oct 09 19:16 |
schestowitz | Fist they went after the FSF | Oct 09 19:17 |
DaemonFC | they haven't even tried swallowing the BSD and MIT licensed stuff whole | Oct 09 19:17 |
schestowitz | Then they'll go after the OSI | Oct 09 19:17 |
schestowitz | Then Linux... | Oct 09 19:17 |
DaemonFC | forking something for no reason is really stupid | Oct 09 19:17 |
it's all name calling, which is all they have -> schestowitz: it's all PR | Oct 09 19:17 | |
DaemonFC | once you do it, you're the only maintainer of your fork | Oct 09 19:17 |
schestowitz | repeitton helps them | Oct 09 19:17 |
cubezzz | the only way Microsoft can win now is if they locked down the motherboards | Oct 09 19:17 |
DaemonFC | I don't think Opera wants to maintain their own patches against OpenSSL | Oct 09 19:17 |
schestowitz | saying RMS in proximity with soclism and all | Oct 09 19:17 |
schestowitz | It's PR methodology | Oct 09 19:17 |
cubezzz | the genie is out of the bottle re: software | Oct 09 19:17 |
repetition can be thrown on it's head, | Oct 09 19:18 | |
schestowitz | To associatee a mental state when reading RMS or FSF with imagery of Marx | Oct 09 19:18 |
schestowitz | Or Communism | Oct 09 19:18 |
schestowitz | Inter-twining loaded terms in the text | Oct 09 19:18 |
just point to where they say the same stupid things regardless of circumstances | Oct 09 19:18 | |
that discredits the trolls | Oct 09 19:18 | |
schestowitz | you could do that to do lots of thing, inc. to associate Jobs with paedophilia | Oct 09 19:18 |
schestowitz | or Gates with homophobia | Oct 09 19:18 |
schestowitz | and Ellion with sexism | Oct 09 19:19 |
The only thing they have is a loud platform of bought media | Oct 09 19:19 | |
schestowitz | !google ellison scumbag forbes | Oct 09 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mark Hurd Descends Into Hell - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2011/08/08/mark-hurd-descends-into-hell/ | Oct 09 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs : Larry Ellison | http://www.fakesteve.net/tag/larry-ellison | Oct 09 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Larry Ellison and Steve Jobs among America's five highest-earning ... | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2560016/posts | Oct 09 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Forbes' valuation of Rams was nearly $200 million off ... | http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/11/forbes-valuation-of-rams-was-nearly-200-million-off/ | Oct 09 19:19 |
schestowitz | !google ellison scum bag forbes | Oct 09 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Mark Hurd Descends Into Hell - Forbes | http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2011/08/08/mark-hurd-descends-into-hell/ | Oct 09 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Larry Ellison and Steve Jobs among America's five highest-earning ... | http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2560016/posts | Oct 09 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs : Larry Ellison | http://www.fakesteve.net/tag/larry-ellison | Oct 09 19:19 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Forbes' valuation of Rams was nearly $200 million off ... | http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/11/forbes-valuation-of-rams-was-nearly-200-million-off/ | Oct 09 19:19 |
schestowitz | I can't quite find it | Oct 09 19:19 |
schestowitz | after he supported Hurd (Julia Fisher case) someone used libel against Ellison (fake harrassment allegation) to smear him in Forbes | Oct 09 19:20 |
I don't think the latest RMS smear will take hold and it's unimportant anyway. The message of importance is software freedom. | Oct 09 19:20 | |
schestowitz | afaik, ellison's record with women is poor cause he has been divorced so many times | Oct 09 19:20 |
schestowitz | he's much older than gates and jobs | Oct 09 19:20 |
Trolls turn the conversation to personal attack because they don't have anything to say about software freedom. | Oct 09 19:20 | |
iophk | twitter: as with other attacks, it is simply a distraction from the message of software Freedom | Oct 09 19:20 |
right | Oct 09 19:20 | |
cubezzz | I'm surprised about everyone talking about Jobs and almost nothing about Wozniak | Oct 09 19:21 |
iophk | Wozniak was disabled in the plane crash in 1981 and played much less of a role since then | Oct 09 19:21 |
DaemonFC | he was also a real programmer | Oct 09 19:21 |
The elevation of Jobs as responsible for all good things in computerdom throws everyone else down the memory hole. | Oct 09 19:21 | |
DaemonFC | not a used car salesman type | Oct 09 19:21 |
cubezzz | he was the brains behind the apple and apple II | Oct 09 19:21 |
schestowitz | About Jobs and his daughter: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/irc-log-social-11092011.html#tSep 11 15:12:55 | Oct 09 19:21 |
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DaemonFC | Crapple needed a used car salesman to pimp their overpriced and sometimes unreliable computers | Oct 09 19:22 |
iophk | There were a lot of real programmers working "behind" the scenes. | Oct 09 19:22 |
we should not care about Job's daughter. | Oct 09 19:22 | |
iophk | http://folklore.org/ | Oct 09 19:22 |
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DaemonFC | they had no use of a programmer competent to fix them | Oct 09 19:22 |
cubezzz | let's not forget Killdall either | Oct 09 19:22 |
other than to see that she has her software freedom too | Oct 09 19:22 | |
cubezzz | I don't remember everyone talking about his death | Oct 09 19:22 |
iophk | Killdall was done in by M$ | Oct 09 19:22 |
DaemonFC | well, there's a lot of very smart programmers that have worked for Microsoft over the years | Oct 09 19:23 |
iophk | they got the deal instead of him | Oct 09 19:23 |
DaemonFC | but they got paid to do what people like Ballmer said | Oct 09 19:23 |
iophk | no, M$ seems to have gotten the dregss | Oct 09 19:23 |
iophk | otherwise their software would be significantly better | Oct 09 19:23 |
doing as Ballmer says is sort of a waste of talent | Oct 09 19:23 | |
cubezzz | it's bloatware | Oct 09 19:23 |
cubezzz | one major reason to avoid it | Oct 09 19:23 |
iophk | no one of talent is likely to gravitate towards working for M$ | Oct 09 19:24 |
people do strange things for money | Oct 09 19:24 | |
cubezzz | oh they will sometimes | Oct 09 19:24 |
DaemonFC | if the money is right they will | Oct 09 19:24 |
iophk | It's reputation in the 1990's was even worse than it is now. | Oct 09 19:24 |
cubezzz | for $$$ of course | Oct 09 19:24 |
no, I think Microsoft's reputation has sunk even further | Oct 09 19:24 | |
cubezzz | I'd say 1995-2000 was their zenith actually | Oct 09 19:24 |
cubezzz | now they are less powerful | Oct 09 19:25 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] good afternoon !identiverse !tzag | Oct 09 19:25 | |
every knows their management is chaos | Oct 09 19:25 | |
iophk | and their programming / programmers too | Oct 09 19:25 |
cubezzz | now I actually see computer stores with linux/bsd distros in the store | Oct 09 19:25 |
iophk | garbage in garbage out | Oct 09 19:25 |
DaemonFC | they don't trust their own employees to know how more than a certain amount of Windows works | Oct 09 19:26 |
iophk | !google steve jobs third rate | Oct 09 19:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - A Question of Taste (Steve Jobs and Bill Gates) - YouTube | http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DoBISzVRmYIM | Oct 09 19:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Steve Jobs - Wikiquote | http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs | Oct 09 19:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Steve Jobs: The unparalleled revolutionary 'tyrant' - The Economic ... | http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/steve-jobs-defending-lifes-work-with-words-of-a-tyrant/articleshow/10263998.cms | Oct 09 19:26 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - Steve Jobs and the best investment I ever made – Telegraph Blogs | http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ianmcowie/100012410/steve-jobs-and-the-best-investment-i-ever-made/ | Oct 09 19:26 |
DaemonFC | so they split them up into teams that don't know what's going on in the next room | Oct 09 19:26 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] And Happy Thanksgiving Weekend !Canada | Oct 09 19:26 | |
iophk | spaghetti code | Oct 09 19:26 |
iophk | by design | Oct 09 19:26 |
cubezzz | hard to say since we never see the code | Oct 09 19:27 |
iophk | "I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success — I have no problem with their success. They've earned their success, for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third-rate products" — Steve Jobs http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs | Oct 09 19:27 |
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DaemonFC | cubezzz: There was a code leak | Oct 09 19:27 |
cubezzz | yeah win2K | Oct 09 19:27 |
DaemonFC | part of Windows 2000 | Oct 09 19:27 |
DaemonFC | the company that they hired to port Internet Explorer to AIX and Solaris lost a laptop containing a bunch of Windows 2000 source code | Oct 09 19:28 |
DaemonFC | and it ended up all over the internet, including the pirate bay | Oct 09 19:28 |
cubezzz | ah, so that's what happened | Oct 09 19:29 |
DaemonFC | a lot of shell code, IE 5 code, and networking code | Oct 09 19:29 |
cubezzz | did they finish porting IE to AIX? Sounds like a ridiculous idea | Oct 09 19:29 |
DaemonFC | yes | Oct 09 19:29 |
DaemonFC | IE 4 and 5 both worked on Solaris and AIX | Oct 09 19:29 |
DaemonFC | along with Outlook Express | Oct 09 19:29 |
iophk | Outlook was a really poor program with a poor mail handling | Oct 09 19:30 |
cubezzz | I gmail and mutt these days | Oct 09 19:30 |
DaemonFC | but the "UNIX" ports didn't have ActiveX, which was no big deal since most plugins were in Netscape's plugin API | Oct 09 19:31 |
DaemonFC | so you could feed IE NPAPI plugins and they would work fine | Oct 09 19:31 |
iophk | Eudora was good in its day. Thunderbird is catching up. | Oct 09 19:31 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ooops.... são de 2007 as sondagens...estes gajos não identificam isto ;) | Oct 09 19:31 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I see the #Mint forums are in their traditional dawg slow state yet again | Oct 09 19:31 | |
iophk | Mutt is excellent as is alpine | Oct 09 19:31 |
DaemonFC | NPAPI hasn't changed much since the late 90s | Oct 09 19:32 |
DaemonFC | it's basically the same API from Netscape Navigator that browsers today still use | Oct 09 19:32 |
DaemonFC | Microsoft removed NPAPI compatibility in IE 5.5 | Oct 09 19:32 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] hah... @whistlewright & @jimmorgan were separated by a heap of dents | Oct 09 19:33 | |
cubezzz | windows still can't run text mode only right? | Oct 09 19:33 |
DaemonFC | what was hilarious is that they said they removed NPAPI and wanted developers to use ActiveX because it was more secure | Oct 09 19:33 |
DaemonFC | cubezzz: Only the emergency recovery console | Oct 09 19:34 |
DaemonFC | but that's limited to doing things like running chkdsk | Oct 09 19:34 |
schestowitz | [19:24] <cubezzz> I'd say 1995-2000 was their zenith actually << microsoft's market cap was around half a trillion at that stage | Oct 09 19:34 |
DaemonFC | it's not a usable environment for much else | Oct 09 19:34 |
schestowitz | [19:26] <iophk> !google steve jobs third rate << you're playing against well-funded SEO and bribed journalists (PR) campaigns | Oct 09 19:35 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, microsoft is lower now I assume? | Oct 09 19:36 |
schestowitz | [19:29] <cubezzz> did they finish porting IE to AIX? Sounds like a ridiculous idea << isn't that similar to what de Icaza wanted to do on Microsoft's payroll? | Oct 09 19:36 |
iophk | It's hard, the search results in IRC are different that via the WWW | Oct 09 19:36 |
cubezzz | is Apple bigger than Exxon now? o_0 | Oct 09 19:37 |
schestowitz | [19:31] <iophk> Eudora was good in its day. Thunderbird is catching up. << back when I was about 20 I wrote a manual for Eudora, but I think they got collapse onto Thunderbirfd although we heardly ever heard anything about it | Oct 09 19:37 |
schestowitz | [19:31] <iophk> Mutt is excellent as is alpine << has not been maintained for years, but Linus still uses it | Oct 09 19:38 |
iophk | That was the idea, but they were slow about merging features from Eudora into Thunderbird | Oct 09 19:38 |
schestowitz | [19:36] <iophk> It's hard, the search results in IRC are different that via the WWW << Google results personalisaton and localisation | Oct 09 19:38 |
iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpine_%28e-mail_client%29 | Oct 09 19:39 |
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iophk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Latest_stable_software_release/Alpine&action=edit (August 26, 2008; 3 years ago) | Oct 09 19:39 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Next Ubuntu Version Named “Precise Pangolin” http://goo.gl/iQjai lol | Oct 09 19:40 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Top 400 - The Times Higher #Education World University Rankings 2011-2012 http://goo.gl/glBQG | Oct 09 19:40 | |
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iophk | http://mailman2.u.washington.edu/pipermail/alpine-info/2008-August/001071.html | Oct 09 19:41 |
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schestowitz | http://twitter.com/wood5y/status/123062505282088960 | Oct 09 19:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @wood5y: MS' latest moves against #Linux ♻ @schestowitz: Microsoft Software ‘Donations’ Are a Clever Scam http://t.co/gDzKU6Sk #microsoft #edgi #pr | Oct 09 19:46 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 09 19:46 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wayneborean/@wayneborean] Fascinating. My publishing articles have drawn a lot of attention. I've also gotten some amazing feedback from the pros. | Oct 09 19:46 | |
schestowitz | iophk: over 3 years ago | Oct 09 19:46 |
schestowitz | there was also a successo project iirc | Oct 09 19:47 |
schestowitz | these days there are issues for such projects | Oct 09 19:47 |
iophk | re-alpine, but I don't know if it went anywhere | Oct 09 19:47 |
schestowitz | like cyrus in another university | Oct 09 19:47 |
schestowitz | people are idiots due to the "cloud" hype | Oct 09 19:47 |
schestowitz | they move to emails outside their isp/doamin | Oct 09 19:48 |
DaemonFC | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/303401 | Oct 09 19:48 |
schestowitz | and they move to some web-based junk with one of the giabts | Oct 09 19:48 |
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DaemonFC | there it is | Oct 09 19:48 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @jimmorgan @laurelrusswurm well they say alternating cats (ac) is more reliable and cheaper than direct cats (dc) | Oct 09 19:48 | |
schestowitz | For most of them it means no native mail client | Oct 09 19:48 |
schestowitz | iophk: not heard of any dev on it | Oct 09 19:48 |
iophk | it looks abandoned on sourceforge | Oct 09 19:49 |
iophk | last update in 2010 | Oct 09 19:49 |
cubezzz | is mutt still updated? | Oct 09 19:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Ministers say abuse victims under 'pressure' from law firm http://goo.gl/QSLsU | Oct 09 19:50 | |
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DaemonFC | "The WSJ reports that the discovery of the gigantic and prolific Bakken oil fields of Montana and North Dakota have already helped move the U.S. into third place among world oil producers, and according to Harold Hamm, CEO of Continental Resources, the 14th-largest oil company in America, if fully developed the field in Bakken contains 24 billion barrels, doubling America's proven oil reserves. One reason for America's | Oct 09 19:50 |
DaemonFC | abundant supply of oil and natural gas has been the development of new drilling techniques, including 'horizontal drilling,' which allows rigs to reach two miles into the ground and then spread horizontally by thousands of feet." | Oct 09 19:50 |
DaemonFC | yay, more oil | Oct 09 19:50 |
iophk | cubezzz: wikipedia says last update 4 years ago, so more stale than alpine | Oct 09 19:50 |
cubezzz | hmmm, fedora 14 uses mutt-1.5.21-6 | Oct 09 19:51 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Catholic #Church steps up gay marriage attack http://goo.gl/bnn4N AKA we demand the right by law to continue to be homophobic | Oct 09 19:51 | |
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schestowitz | i haven't haard much about kmail recently | Oct 09 19:51 |
schestowitz | kontact either | Oct 09 19:51 |
cubezzz | I stopped using kmail | Oct 09 19:51 |
schestowitz | in think that fsfe's founder now works in the company backing it | Oct 09 19:52 |
cubezzz | too slow | Oct 09 19:52 |
schestowitz | And they try to get more clients, in expos and such.. | Oct 09 19:52 |
schestowitz | for me, kmail lacked some functionality, that was the deal breaker | Oct 09 19:52 |
schestowitz | I switched to thunderbird in 2004 IIRC | Oct 09 19:52 |
cubezzz | I can log into anywhere and ssh to my server and then mutt | Oct 09 19:53 |
*schestowitz goes making coffee | Oct 09 19:53 | |
iophk | Thunderbird is mostly good, I used to alternately use Alpine sometimes | Oct 09 19:53 |
cubezzz | iophk, 1.5.21 was released in sept 2010 | Oct 09 19:55 |
cubezzz | the stable release is much older though | Oct 09 19:55 |
iophk | preview release, I only counted the sable release | Oct 09 19:55 |
cubezzz | righto | Oct 09 19:55 |
cubezzz | fedora is big on cutting edge | Oct 09 19:55 |
iophk | at least it's been worked on recently | Oct 09 19:56 |
cubezzz | I mainly use old mutt anyways | Oct 09 19:56 |
cubezzz | 1.4.1i from 2003 :) | Oct 09 19:56 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Of course he is entitled, but I question his wisdom. It looked mean spirited and that made our community look mean. That was disappointing | Oct 09 19:56 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] What I have to be thankful for today: A minority provincial government (which means a breath of democracy) !ONelxn !CdnPoli | Oct 09 19:58 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @thistleweb #Catholic #Church steps up gay marriage attack http://goo.gl/bnn4N AKA we demand the right by law to continue to be homop ... | Oct 09 19:58 | |
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iophk | http://www.i-programmer.info/professional-programmer/i-programmer/2591-dumping-net-microsofts-madness.html | Oct 09 19:59 |
TechrightsBot-tr | @: | Oct 09 19:59 |
iophk | "Dumping .NET - Microsoft's Madness" | Oct 09 19:59 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] "Reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled". —Richard Feynman #quotes | Oct 09 19:59 | |
cubezzz | simplify... just dump microsoft :) | Oct 09 20:00 |
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iophk | That's the right way. :) | Oct 09 20:00 |
iophk | Fastest and easiest. | Oct 09 20:01 |
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cubezzz | I still use 256 meg ram on some machines | Oct 09 20:01 |
iophk | Why so small? | Oct 09 20:01 |
cubezzz | I even experimented with 16 meg | Oct 09 20:01 |
cubezzz | ah, I like using older computers | Oct 09 20:01 |
iophk | pupply linux, then? | Oct 09 20:02 |
iophk | * puppy | Oct 09 20:02 |
cubezzz | I'm off the upgrade treadmill | Oct 09 20:02 |
cubezzz | no, I actually use FC1, FreeBSD 8.1, Vector Linux, and BL3 | Oct 09 20:03 |
cubezzz | on the newer machines I'm using various Fedora versions, but I'm switching to 14 | Oct 09 20:03 |
cubezzz | if you want small memory, BL3 is the king | Oct 09 20:03 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Hi all | Oct 09 20:03 |
cubezzz | unless you want ancient Unix | Oct 09 20:04 |
Chips_B_Malroy | there is a place for old software | Oct 09 20:04 |
Chips_B_Malroy | still useful | Oct 09 20:04 |
cubezzz | plus I run AmigaDos 1.3 and various IBM mainframe OSes | Oct 09 20:04 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @lcranston1939 GOP claims ending BigOil subsidies w/cost jobs–Exxon-mobile alone w/b forced to layoff abt 60 congressmen v @MeshGraphics | Oct 09 20:05 | |
DaemonFC | blagblagblagblagblagblagblagblagblag | Oct 09 20:05 |
DaemonFC | :) | Oct 09 20:05 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I still want to make a VDI or virtual machine of an old linux distro that can run Wordperfect 8 and locki games | Oct 09 20:06 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] !Scribus team starts a icon set contest | Libre Graphics World http://goo.gl/IFjYt | Oct 09 20:06 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #KDE takes on #Android, Apple's iOS on smartphones and #tablets | ZDNet #floss #mobile http://goo.gl/Mdbqz | Oct 09 20:06 | |
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cubezzz | Unix system 7 will run in 256K | Oct 09 20:07 |
cubezzz | Chips_B_Malroy, there's a way to run old Loki stuff on newer distros | Oct 09 20:09 |
cubezzz | I have some notes on the subject | Oct 09 20:09 |
Chips_B_Malroy | some of the games | Oct 09 20:09 |
Chips_B_Malroy | not all | Oct 09 20:09 |
cubezzz | rt2 will work | Oct 09 20:10 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rd @ShadowAtSanctum via @lcranston1939 Join the clamor. "Wall Street bankers who broke the law must #OccupyJail" SIGN HERE: pccc.me/ol6jUG | Oct 09 20:10 | |
cubezzz | a pity we don't have the code | Oct 09 20:10 |
DaemonFC | I'm sure an old BSD release would be close enough | Oct 09 20:10 |
cubezzz | but I have fc1 running so it's simple to just use that | Oct 09 20:10 |
cubezzz | Chips_B_Malroy, you could probably just hunt down the iso's for fc1 "yarrow" | Oct 09 20:11 |
Chips_B_Malroy | A subject I should not even bring up, as it is not important and not story material at all, in fact its slightly toxic to readers. And it makes no difference at all. http://celebritydaily.net/scandals/wikileaks-claims-steve-jobs-died-from-aids/ | Oct 09 20:12 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Got to die from something, so its really a non story | Oct 09 20:12 |
cubezzz | hmm, never heard that one | Oct 09 20:13 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Steve is a god now. Just like some of those early rock stars that died, and Elvis. | Oct 09 20:13 |
Chips_B_Malroy | People have empathy for famous folks that die, and elevate them after they die. | Oct 09 20:14 |
cubezzz | that's true | Oct 09 20:14 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Caesars were officially and legally elevated the the status of Gods by the Roman Senate. so its not a new thing. | Oct 09 20:15 |
cubezzz | except maybe for Kildall | Oct 09 20:15 |
cubezzz | not too many people talk about him | Oct 09 20:15 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Which is why it's toxic to write negatively about Steve Jobs right now. Even the little that RMS wrote he is taking some flak about. Which RMS does not desire to get. | Oct 09 20:16 |
Chips_B_Malroy | *deserve | Oct 09 20:16 |
iophk | !google gary kildall | Oct 09 20:17 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [1] - Gary Kildall - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Kildall | Oct 09 20:17 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [2] - Gary Kildall California Digital | http://www.cadigital.com/kildall.htm | Oct 09 20:17 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [3] - Who Made America? | Innovators | Gary Kildall | http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/whomade/kildall_hi.html | Oct 09 20:17 |
TechrightsBot-tr | [4] - The Man Who Could Have Been Bill Gates | http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_43/b3905109_mz063.htm | Oct 09 20:17 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | FC1 huh? It will run in virtualbox? | Oct 09 20:18 |
cubezzz | not sure | Oct 09 20:19 |
cubezzz | I just run it natively | Oct 09 20:19 |
Chips_B_Malroy | and can get the old libraries for loki/wordperfect/corel to run? | Oct 09 20:19 |
cubezzz | I run heretic 2 and rt2 on my fc1 box | Oct 09 20:19 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I think beyond kernel 2.4 and maybe 2.2, virtualbox does not support those | Oct 09 20:20 |
cubezzz | fc1 is 2.4 | Oct 09 20:20 |
Chips_B_Malroy | railroad tycoon 2? was a good one | Oct 09 20:20 |
cubezzz | I still play it :) | Oct 09 20:20 |
Chips_B_Malroy | all Sid Meir's were good | Oct 09 20:20 |
cubezzz | yes, but I wish I could make my own trains | Oct 09 20:21 |
cubezzz | maybe I'll hack it someday | Oct 09 20:21 |
Chips_B_Malroy | toxic better pic of jobs aids medical report: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=155jadj&s=7 | Oct 09 20:22 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | Jobs died with a fortune of between 6 and 8.5 billion depending on which source you read. | Oct 09 20:23 |
cubezzz | huh, that looks pretty real | Oct 09 20:23 |
Chips_B_Malroy | could be forged, but wikileaks supposedly released it 2 years ago | Oct 09 20:24 |
Chips_B_Malroy | that does not mean that what wikileaks had was authenic | Oct 09 20:24 |
Chips_B_Malroy | but most likely is | Oct 09 20:25 |
Chips_B_Malroy | not that it makes any difference | Oct 09 20:25 |
schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: is this report real? | Oct 09 20:25 |
schestowitz | cause I think along the lines of those conspiracy theories about Obama | Oct 09 20:25 |
schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: real, but how? | Oct 09 20:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, you won't find it in a google news search. But will find it in a regular google search | Oct 09 20:26 |
cubezzz | the birthday is right, but that's hardly conclusive | Oct 09 20:26 |
schestowitz | You could make a printout like that | Oct 09 20:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yes | Oct 09 20:26 |
cubezzz | yes :) | Oct 09 20:26 |
cubezzz | but I note the SSN | Oct 09 20:26 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Roy, I would not post this as a story, its toxic | Oct 09 20:27 |
cubezzz | it's making the rounds | Oct 09 20:27 |
cubezzz | anyway | Oct 09 20:27 |
Chips_B_Malroy | it would be curious if it did come from wikileaks though | Oct 09 20:28 |
Chips_B_Malroy | wikileaks has been mostly reliable | Oct 09 20:28 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Even if Jobs did die as a result of Aids, it really is a non-story. Its does not further software freedom in any way. Best to let his family have peace, even though there will be a lot of interest in this. | Oct 09 20:30 |
cubezzz | one site says that SxCheck didn't exist until 2006 | Oct 09 20:30 |
cubezzz | and that report is dated 2004 | Oct 09 20:30 |
Chips_B_Malroy | so might be fake | Oct 09 20:31 |
cubezzz | it's possible | Oct 09 20:31 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I was curious as I seen a post on Mini MSFT that made this claim, so I googled it. | Oct 09 20:32 |
Chips_B_Malroy | don't know about the dates | Oct 09 20:32 |
cubezzz | http://www.sxcheck.com | Oct 09 20:33 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | SXcheck, should be a home page, I see you are ahead of me | Oct 09 20:33 |
cubezzz | they could have reprinted an earlier company's report using their own letterhead | Oct 09 20:34 |
cubezzz | but I'm leaning towards fake | Oct 09 20:34 |
Chips_B_Malroy | easy to forge, even I with my limited abilities could gimp it | Oct 09 20:34 |
Chips_B_Malroy | the trick would be to get wikileaks to post it, if they did | Oct 09 20:35 |
cubezzz | as you say, dead is dead | Oct 09 20:36 |
cubezzz | the cancer most likely got him | Oct 09 20:36 |
Chips_B_Malroy | yep, just thought folks here might be interested a bit, but not for a story | Oct 09 20:36 |
Chips_B_Malroy | What he died of, if he was gay or bi, really its does not matter or is important, it was his life that was important. | Oct 09 20:37 |
Chips_B_Malroy | SxCheck will not verify it even if it was authenitic, as that would open them to lawsuit. | Oct 09 20:39 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Anyway, I figured that this was going come up and be a story somewhere. | Oct 09 20:40 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Also, from what I can see, Jobs only ever gave to the Cancer fund and the Aids funds. | Oct 09 20:41 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Which is curious, as otherwise he was a thightwad. | Oct 09 20:42 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Sort of like Sweaty B, that tight. | Oct 09 20:43 |
Chips_B_Malroy | Rumor is Sweaty B will leave MS when or shortly after Win8 is released, and Steven S. will replace him. | Oct 09 20:45 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.ihasapple.com/2011/09/u2%E2%80%B2s-bono-praises-steve-jobs%E2%80%99-help-in-the-fight-against-aids/ | Oct 09 20:54 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | I sure hope those infected windows drones don't turn on us! As I am much closer to where they fly. | Oct 09 20:59 |
Chips_B_Malroy | later | Oct 09 21:01 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs_purported_HIV_medical_status_results,_2008 | Oct 09 21:12 |
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Chips_B_Malroy | "The results by HIV testing company SxCheck are dated 1 Sep 2004. Though SxCheck's website did not launch until 2006[1], its parent company Adult Industry Medical Health Care Foundation has existed since the 1980s[2]. It is thus plausible that the results are a re-issue of earlier tests associated with its parent company. SxCheck's website advertises "decades of experience"[3]. " | Oct 09 21:13 |
Chips_B_Malroy | I would also submit that the SXCheck letterhead could of been in use before the website was created. | Oct 09 21:14 |
Chips_B_Malroy | This often happens with businesses, they create the business first and later on a website. | Oct 09 21:14 |
Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.freakgeeks.com/2011/6091/steve-jobs-suffering-from-hiv-says-wikileaks/ The signature of Jobs is compared with a real one, looks real. | Oct 09 21:17 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[evan/@evan] It works really well in the case it was designed for: smaller more cohesive groups. But clearly needs some fine-tuning for Identica groups. | Oct 09 21:37 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] @evan well,in this case,I'd say he's testing that the poll doesn't "spam" the group.It shouldn't,since it looks like no group's tagged in it | Oct 09 21:38 | |
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DaemonFC | by that you mean they're looting and stealing TVs? | Oct 09 21:43 |
DaemonFC | or is this an actual protest? | Oct 09 21:43 |
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Steve Jobs Tribute in Bloomberg Businessweek Magazine http://identi.ca/url/54043545 | Oct 09 21:47 | |
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cubezzz | http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/10/08/opinion/sunday/20111008_McFadden_Cartoon.html | Oct 09 22:37 |
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DaemonFC | for some reason konversation is crashing every few hours | Oct 09 22:49 |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Got it. Haven't had enough coffee yet. | Oct 09 22:50 | |
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I just hope you are referring to a machine, rather than a person. D: | Oct 09 22:52 | |
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_Goblin | Excellent show! | Oct 09 23:06 |
_Goblin | schestowitz: cheers Roy!! | Oct 09 23:06 |
MinceR | s/rmo/ro/ | Oct 09 23:06 |
MinceR | fixed that for them | Oct 09 23:06 |
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schestowitz | _Goblin: the editor sorted out the volume with leveller, part early on has the volume issue on the _Goblin side | Oct 09 23:45 |
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schestowitz | [21:17] <Chips_B_Malroy> http://www.freakgeeks.com/2011/6091/steve-jobs-suffering-from-hiv-says-wikileaks/ The signature of Jobs is compared with a real one, looks real. | Oct 09 23:47 |
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schestowitz | I'km not sure it matters either way | Oct 09 23:47 |
schestowitz | If he had HIV or not... because it's totally a personal aspect of his life and not professional | Oct 09 23:48 |
schestowitz | [22:46] <twitter> what was missing? -> schestowitz: for me, kmail lacked some functionality, that was the deal breaker | Oct 09 23:48 |
schestowitz | HTML did not display quite so correctly at the time IIRC | Oct 09 23:49 |
schestowitz | Also no plugins joy | Oct 09 23:49 |
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