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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] OMG, I just learned that Wordpress.com accounts are also Jabber/ !xmpp accounts :D http://en.support.wordpress.com/jabber/Dec 28 00:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] damn. last subway train escaped, and I have to use the gym accomodation tonight. ah, well, sleeping with the hackers, feels at home! #28C3Dec 28 00:15
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] mola la inocentada de este año en !EOL xDDDDec 28 00:24
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] @pietercolpaert you at #28C3?Dec 28 00:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] during the #28C3 I will be writing a blogpost on network filtering and net neutrality in Poland - any CCC'ers wanna comment/help/co-op?Dec 28 00:35
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Agility will be key for tech in 2012 - http://ur1.ca/70w0m #fbDec 28 00:39
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MinceRhttp://lawandthemultiverse.com/2011/12/27/are-the-x-men-human-federal-court-says-no/Dec 28 01:12
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DaemonFCMinceR: The Silver Samurai is human thoughDec 28 01:15
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 01:15
MinceR:)Dec 28 01:15
DaemonFCAren't you glad there are courts to work out the important stuff?Dec 28 01:15
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MinceRindeedDec 28 01:16
MinceRwait, why is the Silver Samurai human?Dec 28 01:16
DaemonFCbecause a judge said soDec 28 01:16
MinceRicDec 28 01:16
formic_Stone cold said soDec 28 01:17
DaemonFCthey need to stay busy after declaring they have no jurisdiction over who the President accuses of being a traitor or a terrorist and sends to Guantanamo  Dec 28 01:17
DaemonFCso they're deciding what is a doll and what is a toyDec 28 01:17
MinceR:>Dec 28 01:17
DaemonFCI for one can't wait to see what the conservative-leaning supreme court says about SUPERmanDec 28 01:18
DaemonFC;)Dec 28 01:18
MinceRi'm just curious about the food-centered doll they mentionDec 28 01:19
formic_They have chuck Norris to deal with supermanDec 28 01:19
MinceRnah, chuck norris can only try to deal with insufficient religious brainwashingDec 28 01:19
DaemonFCAbilities -Channel mutant energy into most commonly a sword, to create a tachyon field capable of cutting anything except adamantium.Dec 28 01:20
DaemonFC-Teleportation ringDec 28 01:20
DaemonFCclearly humanDec 28 01:20
DaemonFCI can do thatDec 28 01:20
DaemonFCcan't you, MinceR?Dec 28 01:20
MinceRyou have teleportation rings?Dec 28 01:20
DaemonFCyepDec 28 01:20
MinceRi knew you were a Goa'uldDec 28 01:20
DaemonFCall humans can do thatDec 28 01:20
DaemonFCI love the court systemDec 28 01:20
formic_He may be to'kraDec 28 01:20
scientesare we still trying to work on a techrights wiki?Dec 28 01:20
DaemonFCtelling me I have mutant super powersDec 28 01:21
scientesor was that abandoned?Dec 28 01:21
DaemonFCand they're never wrongDec 28 01:21
DaemonFCso you know I doDec 28 01:21
scientesI remember that non-wikipedia mediawiki was a pain for those use to wikipedia templates cause there was no easy import functionsDec 28 01:21
DaemonFCMinceR: Now that we're dividing everyone up between human and enemy combatantDec 28 01:22
DaemonFCthe Silver Samurai must have been "with us"Dec 28 01:22
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 01:22
MinceR"who isn't with us is against us" or "who isn't against us is with us"? :>Dec 28 01:22
formic_Cap America was arrested in the comics and shot on his way to trial Dec 28 01:23
formic_I know how hard it is to put food on your familyDec 28 01:24
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AdmFubar_hi allDec 28 01:25
AdmFubar_dont know if this has been noticed here yetDec 28 01:26
AdmFubar_http://www.cio.com/article/697092/Apple_Fined_900_000_in_ItalyDec 28 01:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Apple Fined 900,000 in Italy                               CIO.com .::. Size~: 128.66 KBDec 28 01:26
AdmFubar_latersDec 28 01:26
MinceRhayDec 28 01:26
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DaemonFCgood thing they don't still have the LiraDec 28 01:30
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DaemonFCI think Microsoft could make a $10 fineDec 28 01:30
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 01:30
DaemonFCerrr, AppleDec 28 01:30
MinceR:>Dec 28 01:32
oiaohmDaemonFC: basically the problem is MS and apple want 10 dollars each.Dec 28 01:32
oiaohmIt would be fun to make the cage match for the 10 dollars.Dec 28 01:32
DaemonFCnoDec 28 01:33
DaemonFCMicrosoft wants $20Dec 28 01:33
DaemonFCthen Apple wants $20 on top of thatDec 28 01:33
oiaohmExactly make the cage match for the money.Dec 28 01:33
DaemonFCwhich makes Android more expensive than Windows Phone or iphoneDec 28 01:33
oiaohmReally MS and Apple are going to have hardware makers wanting every cent of that back.Dec 28 01:34
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oiaohmfrom them in patent charges against there main products.Dec 28 01:34
DaemonFCdon't you love how Apple users spam IRC rooms with that crap?Dec 28 01:37
scientesthe iPad hardware is only $200 when they charge $500Dec 28 01:37
scientesif you get people that info before they get sucked into the hype....Dec 28 01:38
DaemonFCyeah, I don't care what they do really, it's their moneyDec 28 01:38
DaemonFCif they want to pour gasoline on it and toss in a match, it's not my problemDec 28 01:38
scientesAdmFubar_ that was a horrible articleDec 28 01:38
scientesget me the actual judgement to shoot through a translaterDec 28 01:39
MinceRactually the gasoline treatment would be betterDec 28 01:39
MinceRthen crApple wouldn't get money to fuel their war on freedomDec 28 01:40
DaemonFCI just noticed the woman at McDonalds shorted me $2 and I was too tired to noticeDec 28 01:45
DaemonFCugghDec 28 01:45
DaemonFCI hate teenagersDec 28 01:45
DaemonFCyou never know if they just made it out of high school without the ability to count or if they're just ripping off $2 from every car that doesn't happen to noticeDec 28 01:46
DaemonFCthis is why I almost never use cashDec 28 01:46
DaemonFCthey can't rip you off when you slide your debit cardDec 28 01:46
DaemonFCpeople look down on those who drop out and get their GED, even though it's harder to pass that than high schoolDec 28 01:48
DaemonFCI always just tell them "Look at what the high schools pass. If semi-literacy and inability to count change is your definition of education, they're doing a great job!"Dec 28 01:49
DaemonFCThere's going to be an entire lost generation thanks to religious corruption of our schoolsDec 28 01:49
DaemonFCif they'd back off and quit insisting that kids learn about Jesus tossing dinosaur fossils everywhere 5,000 years ago when the Earth was made, just to fuck with us.....and start teaching them how to count change....Dec 28 01:50
DaemonFCGAH!!!Dec 28 01:50
DaemonFCMinceR: The Silver Samurai is human, and if he's not now, then he will be in 10,000 years when people are basing religion off of 20th century comic booksDec 28 01:51
DaemonFCson of God tooDec 28 01:51
DaemonFCright, Christmas is over, I'm brokeDec 28 01:55
MinceR:>Dec 28 01:55
DaemonFCI'm spending money while I'm brokeDec 28 01:55
DaemonFCI'm sure it will all work outDec 28 01:55
DaemonFCit always doesDec 28 01:55
DaemonFCOH GOD WHAT AM I GOING TO DO!?!?!?Dec 28 01:55
DaemonFC:PDec 28 01:55
DaemonFCMinceR: How do I always spend more money than I have?Dec 28 01:56
DaemonFCI make more now than I did 5 years agoDec 28 01:56
MinceRcredit card?Dec 28 01:56
MinceRloan?Dec 28 01:56
DaemonFCsomehow I lived 5 years agoDec 28 01:56
MinceRdeferred payment? :>Dec 28 01:56
MinceRcheques?Dec 28 01:56
DaemonFCyeah, if the landlord cashes the check I give him on Friday before next Tuesday, I'm in deep deep shitDec 28 01:57
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 01:57
DaemonFCso what I'll do is not pay him on Friday, that way there's no chance he can cash the check on Friday or SaturdayDec 28 01:57
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DaemonFCthen I'll slide the check in the overnight box on Sunday, while the bank is closedDec 28 01:58
DaemonFCand hope he doesn't cash it on MondayDec 28 01:58
DaemonFCthen I only have to worry about what he does between 9 AM and 5  PM on MondayDec 28 01:58
DaemonFC:(Dec 28 01:58
DaemonFCthen I get paid on TuesdayDec 28 01:59
DaemonFC:PDec 28 01:59
DaemonFCand the bi-weekly cycle starts overDec 28 01:59
DaemonFCMinceR: I end up buying most of my big ticket stuff off of QVC or Shop NBCDec 28 02:00
DaemonFCyou might laughDec 28 02:00
DaemonFCbut it's actually better than putting it on a credit cardDec 28 02:00
DaemonFCthey break it up into payments at 0% interestDec 28 02:00
DaemonFCand the item is usually not much more than it is in other storesDec 28 02:00
DaemonFCif I put the same thing on a credit card, I could pay 22% compound interest on itDec 28 02:01
DaemonFCand not have it paid off for 6-7 monthsDec 28 02:01
DaemonFCouchDec 28 02:01
MinceRicDec 28 02:01
MinceRso far i could get away with accumulating the money and then spending it, for the most partDec 28 02:01
DaemonFCinstallments with no interestDec 28 02:01
DaemonFCor credit cards at usurious interest rates Dec 28 02:02
DaemonFCI'd rather go with installmentsDec 28 02:02
DaemonFCit still builds your credit as you pay on timeDec 28 02:02
DaemonFCso my credit is good, without having to get a high interest credit cardDec 28 02:02
MinceR:)Dec 28 02:02
DaemonFCAl Bundy: "I'm not going to pay the credit card bills, Peg. It serves them right for giving a guy like me a loan."Dec 28 02:04
DaemonFC"Let them jack up their interest rates and take it out of some other sap!"Dec 28 02:04
DaemonFCheheDec 28 02:04
DaemonFCMinceR: It's common to hear someone suggest taking out a credit card to build creditDec 28 02:04
DaemonFClike there aren't ways to build credit without paying $200 a year in interest on a card that you never pay off because you're maxing it out faster than you're paying it downDec 28 02:05
DaemonFCMinceR: I just buy nice stuff that will last me several years.Dec 28 02:07
DaemonFCyou cheap out on electronics and you're in trouble right awayDec 28 02:07
DaemonFCI'm not entirely convinced that there's anything to that Raspberry Pi gadgetDec 28 02:08
DaemonFCmost people wouldn't even know what to do with itDec 28 02:08
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alperin_v._Vatican_BankDec 28 02:13
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MinceRi don't cheap out :>Dec 28 02:13
MinceRgnDec 28 02:13
scientesanybody here have joindiaspora invites to send out?Dec 28 02:15
DaemonFCnopeDec 28 02:15
DaemonFCI still use FacebookDec 28 02:15
DaemonFCI'm not thrilled with themDec 28 02:15
scienteshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iyEVq4uH5cDec 28 02:16
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DaemonFCI went there in Konqueror earlier which does not block Facebook ads no matter what I doDec 28 02:16
DaemonFCand because I listed myself as gay, Facebook is trying to advertise "Living with HIV" to meDec 28 02:16
DaemonFCwhich, I do not haveDec 28 02:16
DaemonFCI find that incredibly offensiveDec 28 02:16
scientesat least it isn't called GRIDS anymoreDec 28 02:16
DaemonFCif you listed yourself as a Jew and they offered nose reductions, you'd see them get sued immediatelyDec 28 02:17
DaemonFCright?Dec 28 02:17
DaemonFCI'm going to send them a complaint about that adDec 28 02:17
scientesDaemonFC, they don't give a shitDec 28 02:17
DaemonFCI filed a complaint anywayDec 28 02:26
DaemonFC"Oh, Facebook noticed you're black, do you need a criminal lawyer?"Dec 28 02:27
DaemonFCis that what they'll do next?Dec 28 02:28
DaemonFCthey wouldn't do something like thatDec 28 02:28
DaemonFCthey'd get suedDec 28 02:28
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DaemonFC[21:17] <scientes> DaemonFC, they don't give a shitDec 28 02:34
DaemonFCThat's not because they cared about offending the gaysDec 28 02:34
DaemonFCit's because they were offending straight people with AIDS by implying that they were gayDec 28 02:35
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 02:35
DaemonFCnobody gives a flying fuck what the gay people think about being mistreated like thatDec 28 02:35
DaemonFCerrrrDec 28 02:35
DaemonFC[21:16] <scientes> at least it isn't called GRIDS anymoreDec 28 02:35
DaemonFCmeant to quote thatDec 28 02:35
DaemonFCMe on Walmart birthday cakes, to a friend....Dec 28 02:37
DaemonFCRyan Farmer  Dec 28 02:37
DaemonFCyeah, the cakes come in pre-madeDec 28 02:37
DaemonFCand pre-decoratedDec 28 02:38
DaemonFCall they do is thaw them out and write "Happy Birthday you little cunt, you're 15 now, don't get pregnant until you're out of our house. Love, Mom & Dad"Dec 28 02:38
DaemonFCB-)Dec 28 02:38
DaemonFCit is Walmart, amirite? :)Dec 28 02:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[linuxconfau/@linuxconfau] Ahoy! Esp ladies coming to #LCA2012 - we have new babydoll t-shirt. Need to change sizes? Let us know. http://ur1.ca/70ztuDec 28 02:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Bradley Manning vs the US Military | al Jazeera http://t.co/wnKTd9SQDec 28 03:11
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] pidgin keeps crashing :-sDec 28 03:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Milions of emails between some of the most powerful men in the world are about to be released. Help us search them http://t.co/9u4j1ECQDec 28 03:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] The #Commodore #C116 as shown by @BilHerd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPD5N43VIskDec 28 03:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Nice. An Android Watch - http://ur1.ca/7111wDec 28 03:31
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] New footware for the Orchard Road Trendies - http://ur1.ca/711a6 #fbDec 28 03:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Just updated: SMRT's Reserved Seating signages - http://ur1.ca/711au #fbDec 28 03:39
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cubezzzgiving reactos another go...Dec 28 03:39
cubezzzthis time under qemuDec 28 03:40
cubezzzReactOS explorer :)Dec 28 03:42
cubezzzfinally an explorer I can use :)Dec 28 03:42
DaemonFC[22:25] <DaemonFC> the last problem I had out of Qt 4.8 was in the Technical PreviewDec 28 03:42
DaemonFC[22:25] <Kevin_Kofler> Several KDE bugs are actually due to Qt 4.8.Dec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:26] <Kevin_Kofler> Well, triggered by Qt 4.8.Dec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:26] <Kevin_Kofler> They're usually bugs in the KDE code though.Dec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:40] <DaemonFC> OK, if they're bugs in KDE that KDE is only getting away with because nobody notices themDec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:40] <DaemonFC> and a new version of Qt comes out and flushes them all out into the open....Dec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:40] <DaemonFC> in the long run it'll be a good thingDec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:41] <DaemonFC> like GCC 4.6 and unused but set variable warningsDec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:41] <DaemonFC> in like, everythingDec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:41] <DaemonFC> but now you hardly see themDec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:41] <DaemonFC> it's like saying there's nothing wrong with having a roach infestation as long as they all stay under the refrigeratorDec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:41] <DaemonFC> ;)Dec 28 03:43
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 03:43
DaemonFC[22:44] <DaemonFC> nobody fixes things as long as the software basically works and the compiler agrees to build it without saying anything about all the stuff that's wrong with the source codeDec 28 03:44
cubezzza bit slow, but not too badDec 28 03:45
DaemonFC[22:45] <DaemonFC> I noticed that a lot of the things where Clang or GCC with DragonEgg stops and refuses to go any further, is usually stuff that GCC doesn't even warn aboutDec 28 03:46
DaemonFC[22:45] <DaemonFC> which is frighteningDec 28 03:46
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Congress ends corn ethanol subsidies http://identi.ca/url/63266974Dec 28 04:01
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DaemonFCabout timeDec 28 04:03
DaemonFC$6 billion is not a lot of money when you have Congress spending like drunken sailors on any special interest that comes alongDec 28 04:04
DaemonFCbut, it did promote bad agriculture policy that raised food prices both in the United States and in countries we export corn toDec 28 04:05
DaemonFCand the people who buy groceries are the real winners hereDec 28 04:05
DaemonFCethanol as fuel is just another government-funded disasterDec 28 04:06
DaemonFCwhen the tax breaks dry upDec 28 04:06
DaemonFCand it goes back to what it should really cost, which is more than gasoline, E-85 will fade awayDec 28 04:06
DaemonFCusing corn as fuel for cars is the most fucking stupid thing I've ever seenDec 28 04:07
DaemonFCyour car itself produces less CO2, but that's made up for by all the energy spent growing and harvesting the cornDec 28 04:08
DaemonFCand to say nothing about the food shortages it causedDec 28 04:08
DaemonFCusing the E-85 environmental impact argument (or the cap and trade one) in criminal court would look something like this:Dec 28 04:11
DaemonFC"Your honor, I'm not guilty of murdering my wife, I just paid the hitman to do it for me. I'm not guilty of anything."Dec 28 04:12
DaemonFCor it could go like thisDec 28 04:12
DaemonFC"Your honor, I did kill my wife, but I paid this homeless guy to serve out my prison sentence for me"Dec 28 04:13
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Not everything LLVM stops on is right as well.Dec 28 04:20
oiaohmDaemonFC: Issue is time lot of thing LLVM and modern day GCC pull out are too complex for a normal human to find.Dec 28 04:21
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] "Pon farr" #StarTrek #LOL, "What is this ComicCon you're at! Is it some kind of sex convention I saw on 20/20?!" http://t.cn/aEgx5z !TBBTDec 28 05:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] what is the opposite of 'nerds, geeks and dorks'? the 'norms' or 'mouthbreathers' #LOLDec 28 05:12
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DaemonFCRyan Farmer  Dec 28 05:40
DaemonFCyeah, it's actually a federal felonyDec 28 05:40
DaemonFCto kill a copperheadDec 28 05:40
DaemonFCeven to save your own lifeDec 28 05:40
DaemonFCsome jackass decided they were endangered and that made a snake more valuable than a human lifeDec 28 05:40
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 05:40
DaemonFCtalking to a friend about how I killed a copperhead snake while I was in Georgia a few years agoDec 28 05:40
schestowitzsnakes are more scarceDec 28 05:50
schestowitzno snakes left here, eitherDec 28 05:50
schestowitzwhacked Dec 28 05:50
schestowitzI've just had the most funny dream... that I wake up after 10 hours by accident, which causes troubleDec 28 05:50
schestowitzBut then I woke up, again, for realDec 28 05:51
schestowitzphew!Dec 28 05:51
schestowitzTime to resume blogging, we made /. yesterday (500 comments)Dec 28 05:51
DaemonFCkill emDec 28 05:52
DaemonFCkill em all!Dec 28 05:52
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 05:52
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DaemonFCSysinfo for 'ryan-desktop': Linux 3.1.6-1.fc16.x86_64 running KDE Development Platform 4.7.95 (4.8 RC1 (4.7.95), CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 945 at 3000 MHz (5987 bogomips), HD: 13/909GB, RAM: 5752/7987MB, 170 proc's, 5.18h upDec 28 05:54
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowDec 28 05:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ #techrights log #boycottnovell log #boycottnovell-social log #techbytes log Enter the IRC channels nowDec 28 05:56
*DaemonFC is listening to Another Way To Die by Disturbed on Asylum [Amarok]Dec 28 06:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @kfogel: What if Wikipedia started a paid membership program such that when a member is logged in those "personal appeal" ads don't show?Dec 28 06:04
*schestowitz listens to work up remixDec 28 06:05
schestowitz*wordDec 28 06:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Software Patents: How Europe Lost Its Sovereignty http://ur1.ca/715mn #swpatsDec 28 06:07
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1101134 "sorta reminds me of #lotr"Dec 28 06:24
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schestowitzSame hereDec 28 06:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1085069Dec 28 06:25
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schestowitz"Dec 28 06:25
schestowitzWell, it was supposed to be released anyways (or at least, that's what they promised) ...Dec 28 06:25
schestowitzSo yeah, justice is made.Dec 28 06:25
schestowitzUnfortunately without an official statement about the code ... it can't be used, only looked at, to make projects like #IllumOS more Solaris-friendly.Dec 28 06:25
schestowitz"Dec 28 06:25
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] European Commission Betrays the European Public With Stance on #OOXML and Unitary Patent http://goo.gl/waWBY #eu #swpatsDec 28 06:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] EPO and Other Lawyers-dominated Circles Push for Software Patenting http://ur1.ca/716wwDec 28 06:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] Which #Android smartwatch is more likely to succeed: MotoACTV, WIMM ,I'm Watch or others?Dec 28 06:49
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tessierWow! Techrights was on slashdot!Dec 28 07:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Patent Lawyers Push for Software Patents, Poorly http://ur1.ca/717lr #swpatsDec 28 07:11
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tessierI remember back when that would have totally destroyed a server.Dec 28 07:11
schestowitztessier: yeahDec 28 07:14
schestowitzand this one was more than just /.Dec 28 07:14
schestowitzwith 500 or so commentsDec 28 07:14
schestowitzthe cache saved the serverDec 28 07:15
oiaohmtessier: those bot assults had the site well set up.Dec 28 07:24
DaemonFChttps://www.xkcd.com/526/Dec 28 07:26
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DaemonFC:)Dec 28 07:26
DaemonFCIllumOS is going nowhereDec 28 07:27
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oiaohmDaemonFC: Its not dead yet bit I would agree it very quickly heading onto the ropes.Dec 28 07:31
DaemonFCthere's three possibilitiesDec 28 07:31
DaemonFCthey're always chasing Oracle's tail lightsDec 28 07:32
DaemonFCthey fork and make something that isn't totally Solaris compatible with new bugsDec 28 07:32
DaemonFCor it dies out entirelyDec 28 07:32
oiaohmIllumOS prime goal was common packaging between the 3 solaris forks.Dec 28 07:32
oiaohmOpenIndiana,nexenta and of course open solaris that kinda has gone by by.Dec 28 07:35
oiaohmOpenIndiana is the one that is most based on IllumOS  DaemonFCDec 28 07:36
oiaohmBut really all of them I don't hold out much hope for.Dec 28 07:36
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Unitary Patent is Not a Done Deal http://ur1.ca/718em #swpats #euDec 28 07:39
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Hmm. Interesting. My Nook Colour is running Cyanogen now and that'd mean that the MotoACTV technically could do the same.Dec 28 07:42
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Commissioner Barnier: Enemy of European Development http://ur1.ca/718w9 #swpatsDec 28 07:54
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/87700830Dec 28 07:57
TechrightsBot-tr@Carlo Piana (carlopiana)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-11 07:56:50 UTC - MuBlog: We have known that for a while, sadly. He's a friend of Hadopi, to begin with.Dec 28 07:58
schestowitzThat's useful to know, When one subscribes to the whole "IP" and Hollywood agenda, then it's consistent.Dec 28 07:58
schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/87655747Dec 28 07:59
TechrightsBot-tr@agentsmith's status on Tuesday, 27-Dec-11 15:37:24 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz Hi  Mr.Schestowitz, I´ ve posted a comment in Techrights, in the post about Gates foundation and it didn´ t show. Problems?Dec 28 07:59
schestowitzspam filter, took a while to spot the queueDec 28 07:59
schestowitzhttp://launchpad.net/gwibberDec 28 07:59
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schestowitzhttps://identi.ca/notice/87578371Dec 28 07:59
TechrightsBot-tr@satipera (satipera)'s status on Monday, 26-Dec-11 05:04:03 UTC - Identi.ca: !Tzag Identizens. @Schestowitz Yesterday's FBI say factory farm activists are terrorists link is broken.Dec 28 08:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ♻ @qu1j0t3: #TIL "$51 billion of [#Microsoft's] cash assets are kept offshore, to avoid taxes" http://t.co/YhsIEKdo #OWS cc @schestowitzDec 28 08:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Incredibly facinating for me. Building logic gates using UNIX pipes & shell scripts! http://ur1.ca/719af #fbDec 28 08:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[kirschner/@kirschner] ♻ @derweisefuchs: rät: Emos können lustig sein! Beweis: heute am Bahnhof - Emo-Junge zu Emo-Mädchen: "Du darfst halt nicht depri sein!"Dec 28 08:09
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/nilsgeylen/status/150325875886395393Dec 28 08:10
TechrightsBot-tr@nilsgeylen: @schestowitz Wanted to reshare the post but at second look it's a bit weak. Enemy of your internet freedom yes, but why exactly. Needs work.Dec 28 08:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] it is known that research causes cancer in lab mice, but it's new to me that presidency causes cancer in Latin American presidentsDec 28 08:12
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Introducing Ubuntu Social Networking Lens for Unity http://goo.gl/jmqWP #ubuntu #canonical #gnu #linuxDec 28 08:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 7 Benefits of Mozilla's Rapid Release! http://ur1.ca/719t1 #mozilla #firefoxDec 28 08:26
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schestowitz http://parlementum.net/notice/503453Dec 28 08:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Charles Occupy Roth (parlementum)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Dec-11 23:28:31 UTC - Parlementum .::. Size~: 11.5 KBDec 28 08:27
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/87678527 Dec 28 08:28
TechrightsBot-tr@Marko Dimjašević (mdim)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Dec-11 23:24:42 UTC - Identi.ca: @lxoliva so, RMS's essays serve only to please our aesthetic senses?Dec 28 08:28
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/1102743 "Can we get Diaspora* on Gwibber, once the beta is released ?"Dec 28 08:40
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schestowitzSure hope so..Dec 28 08:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Ubuntu 11.10: Oneiric Ocelot and the cloud http://ur1.ca/71aa9 #ubuntu #gnu #linuxDec 28 08:41
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/MarietjeD66/status/151681218793058304Dec 28 08:47
TechrightsBot-tr@MarietjeD66: #28C3 Day 2 12:30 @bar: Want to meet to discuss political dimensions of netfreedom, export technologies, copyright, netneutrality, etc?!Dec 28 08:47
schestowitzhttp://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/moneyDec 28 08:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: H.R.3261: Stop Online Piracy Act - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress .::. Size~: 93.06 KBDec 28 08:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Why Berlin is poised to be Europe’s new tech hub http://ur1.ca/71aj7 #deDec 28 08:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] International FOSS conference from Tuesday http://ur1.ca/71ap4 #india #foss #freedomDec 28 08:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Hindu : States / Kerala : International FOSS conference from Tuesday .::. Size~: 47.95 KBDec 28 08:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] CTL launches MB40U Ubuntu powered notebook http://goo.gl/GWzKy #gnu #linux #usDec 28 08:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Steinberg pushes free digital college textbooks for California http://goo.gl/EKUS0 #openaccess #literatureDec 28 08:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] A Biotech Lab In Every Garage, Or In Every Library? - http://bit.ly/soWB9T the next revolution? #syntheticbiologyDec 28 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steinberg pushes free digital college textbooks for California - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee .::. Size~: 91.4 KBDec 28 08:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: A Biotech Lab In Every Garage, Or In Every Library? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.05 KBDec 28 08:59
schestowitzhttp://www.pasadenastarnews.com/opinions/ci_19626454Dec 28 09:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Our View: Open-source texts for state colleges    - Pasadena Star-News .::. Size~: 71.58 KBDec 28 09:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Google announces 3.7m #Android activations over the Christmas weekend - http://tnw.co/sjAZEd impressiveDec 28 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @schestowitz: Steinberg pushes free digital college textbooks for California http://goo.gl/EKUS0 #openaccess #literatureDec 28 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Google Saw 3.7m Android Activations Over Christmas .::. Size~: 93.01 KBDec 28 09:06
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steinberg pushes free digital college textbooks for California - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee .::. Size~: 91.4 KBDec 28 09:06
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Open Web FTW - http://bit.ly/rThuP7 Matt Mullenweg on why we need it #openwebDec 28 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Court Order Blocks BitTorrent, Megaupload and More - http://bit.ly/v0nsx9 #india behaving badly #censorshipDec 28 09:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: Google announces 3.7m #Android activations over the Christmas weekend - http://tnw.co/sjAZEd impressive /cc @ramanusasangoDec 28 09:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 12 tech leaders’ resolutions for 2012 — Tech News and Analysis .::. Size~: 85.26 KBDec 28 09:09
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Gotta love professional journo's grasp of the spell checker http://goo.gl/CO2mB #StalkMarketDec 28 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Radical openness in educational materials: The next step in Washington - http://bit.ly/vcaGZL surprisingly clueful ideas here #oer #ocwDec 28 09:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Meizu planning to launch quad-core MX in 2012? http://goo.gl/3xf3b #linuxDec 28 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Liquidity crunch fears stalk markets – live coverage | Business | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 187.5 KBDec 28 09:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Radical openness in educational materials:  The next step in Washington « Official Reuven Carlyle Blog .::. Size~: 79.26 KBDec 28 09:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] either that or it's an emerging market making use of privacy invasive laws and tech - interesting resume - experienced stalker wanted lolDec 28 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Android: The Consequences Of Open - http://onforb.es/sAsSs7 moral: openness worksDec 28 09:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eebrah/@eebrah] RD: @glynmoody: Open Web FTW - http://bit.ly/rThuP7 Matt Mullenweg on why we need it #openwebDec 28 09:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Android: The Consequences Of Open - Forbes .::. Size~: 95.03 KBDec 28 09:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] China’s Parallel Online Universe - http://bit.ly/t4HPe4 good intro to #china's massively efficient #censorship machineDec 28 09:21
TechrightsBot-trTitle: China’s Parallel Online Universe | The Diplomat .::. Size~: 68.03 KBDec 28 09:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Jamaica's #patois Bible: The word of God in creole - http://bbc.in/vHb2t1 wonderful stuff (v languagehat.com) #linguistics #languageDec 28 09:26
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/87233729Dec 28 09:28
schestowitzhmm...Dec 28 09:28
TechrightsBot-tr@Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Sunday, 18-Dec-11 15:26:22 UTC - Identi.ca: Trying out Google+. Not yet sure how it'll fit into my communication habits. http://is.gd/caxJOODec 28 09:28
schestowitzfsfe founderDec 28 09:28
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schestowitzand fsf is against G+Dec 28 09:28
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/85189100Dec 28 09:28
TechrightsBot-tr@Georg C. F. Greve (greve)'s status on Saturday, 12-Nov-11 13:08:02 UTC - Identi.ca: #MSFT allocating monopoly rent to keeping Free Software out of the market: http://is.gd/XPT5rc Well known for years, but now public.Dec 28 09:28
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Lamo testifies at the Manning Pre-trial http://ur1.ca/71bpu #wlDec 28 09:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] “Verdict First, Trial Later.” http://ur1.ca/71brpDec 28 09:32
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schestowitzhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/timothylee/2011/12/22/it-doesnt-matter-if-ron-paul-is-racist/Dec 28 09:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Latest Entrant In 'How Not To Do Marketing' In An Online World: Ocean Marketing Fail - http://bit.ly/tfRvKo chortleworthyDec 28 09:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Latest Entrant In 'How Not To Do Marketing' In An Online World: Ocean Marketing Fail | Techdirt .::. Size~: 90.95 KBDec 28 09:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Twitter Ignored Request To Keep Subpoena Under Wraps - http://rww.to/vGpgvx on the side of the angels once moreDec 28 09:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] ✈ Mandatory Car Share? http://ur1.ca/71c1t #gplDec 28 09:42
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schestowitz"Then two weeks ago TOTN director Paul Sen found a VHS copy of the Jobs interview stored in his UK garage. This is undoubtedly the only surviving copy of the best TV interview Steve Jobs ever gave yet nobody ever saw."Dec 28 09:43
schestowitzhttp://www.cringely.com/2011/10/the-steve-jobs-interview/?Dec 28 09:43
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schestowitzWhere he admits "stealing" "great ideas"Dec 28 09:43
schestowitzWhat a hypocriteDec 28 09:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Content industry supports "Stop Airline Piracy Act" (SAPA) - http://bit.ly/tNm8oM not a misprint; nicely done... #sopaDec 28 09:44
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #CAD for #RNA - http://bit.ly/vQgggZ sounds cool, but is it #opensource? it needs to be...Dec 28 09:52
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6Xo21L0ybE&feature=youtu.beDec 28 09:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Archive.org: Every Book in the World at Your Fingertips http://ur1.ca/71cig #abundanceDec 28 10:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Quad Core Linux Devices, Darrell Steinberg for Open Access http://ur1.ca/71cm5 #techrightsDec 28 10:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Путин переведет правительство на #Linux - http://bit.ly/rtDae1 big: russian government moving to #freesw; also creating #opendata repositoryDec 28 10:19
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/androids/status/151894768790679552Dec 28 10:25
TechrightsBot-tr@androids: Google+ estimated to have 400 Million users by 2012's end http://t.co/Ig7dgPpn #androidDec 28 10:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] If all goes according to plan, in the coming days we'll cover many more #cablegate cables that relate to FOSS (time permitting). #techrightsDec 28 10:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #KDE SC 4.8 – Is KDE In A Permanent Feature Freeze? http://ur1.ca/71d42Dec 28 10:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] 12 tech leaders’ resolutions for 2012 http://ur1.ca/71d53 #cms #freedom #gpl #wordpressDec 28 10:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Путин переведет правительство на #Linux - http://bit.ly/rtDae1 big: russian government moving to #freesw; also creating #opendata repositoryDec 28 10:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] A Rant : Why Google funds Mozilla http://ur1.ca/6yn6oDec 28 10:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Follow Up to "A Rant : Why Google funds Mozilla" http://ur1.ca/71doxDec 28 11:04
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Peter Kasting - Google+ - Internet fame is amusing. Responses to my post (… .::. Size~: 233.55 KBDec 28 11:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] In India, we dont even need any #SOPA style law to block/censor websites. Just get a court order and you're done http:... http://b1t.it/akjFDec 28 11:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nandan Vaidya - Google+ - In India, we dont even need any #SOPA style law to… .::. Size~: 48.45 KBDec 28 11:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] Spot on ! http://ur1.ca/71e0qDec 28 11:27
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Tom Merritt - Google+ - Tonight Eileen suggested we watch the movie Red Riding Hood… .::. Size~: 236.34 KBDec 28 11:27
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lxoliva/@lxoliva] ♻ @glynmoody: Content industry supports "Stop Airline Piracy Act" (SAPA) - http://bit.ly/tNm8oM not a misprint; nicely done... #sopaDec 28 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] #SOPA Don't let 75 year old men with dialup determine the future of this medium http://ur1.ca/71e6d... http://b1t.it/akj0Dec 28 11:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[gotunandan/@gotunandan] #SOPA Don't let 75 year old men with dialup determine the future of this medium http://ur1.ca/71e6d... http://b1t.it/akj0Dec 28 11:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] 'Tarzan's chimpanzee' Cheetah dies aged 80 in Florida http://goo.gl/GdhBI - wow, I didn't know chimps had a human like lifespanDec 28 11:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: BBC News - 'Tarzan's chimpanzee' Cheetah dies aged 80 in Florida .::. Size~: 67.38 KBDec 28 11:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] maybe we could persuade the #SOPA crowd to employ #OceanMarketting as lobbyists - I'm guessing they could do with the workDec 28 11:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ml2mst/@ml2mst] #OpenWM8650 Project: Debian #gnu #linux on WM8650 Tablets http://ur1.ca/71eoxDec 28 11:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Japanese Supreme Court Says Developer Of File Sharing s/w Not Guilty Of Infringement Done By Users - http://bit.ly/rIyPEJ ridiculous caseDec 28 11:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] I predict yet another day of #Identica frustration w/ bouts of nothingness interspersed with disappearing dents & random errors :( #writeoffDec 28 11:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[xface/@xface] RT @ piratepartyca: Tonight's Ottawa PPCA meeting is cancelled due to inclement weather. Anyone who doesn't need to be on th http://ur1. ...Dec 28 12:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Xoot For the Xoom Gives You Root Plus More http://ping.fm/5hMEIDec 28 12:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Good thing sheng siong is not in the business of spellings. #fb http://ur1.ca/71fwrDec 28 12:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: https://identi.ca/file/harishpillay-20111228T121718-hslnkh9.jpeg - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 10.95 KBDec 28 12:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Hacker builds allegedly pointless data network out of Lego train set - Engadget http://ping.fm/um2nnDec 28 12:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Archos #DECT-Enabled 35 Phone is a Smart Home Phone That Runs Android - http://bit.ly/tnxG2g #android getting everywhereDec 28 12:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Batman.js for Building Rich Single-Page Browser Apps http://ping.fm/W3mbaDec 28 12:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] RT @pclinuxos Happy Birthday Linus "Linux" TorvaldsDec 28 12:35
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @glynmoody Archos #DECT-Enabled 35 Phone is a Smart Home Phone That Runs Android - http://bit.ly/tnxG2g #android getting everywhereDec 28 12:54
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Video: Julian Assange on the journalistic corruption of the New York Times, part 8 | NYTExaminer http://t.co/rA1ZhbamDec 28 13:00
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Translators wanted! « Technical Blog of Richard Hughes http://goo.gl/983W0Dec 28 13:07
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schestowitzI might find some time for more posts today, we shall see :-)Dec 28 13:08
MinceRhttp://9gag.com/gag/1257904Dec 28 13:10
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] EU To Focus On Digital Content Policy In 2012 - http://bit.ly/sNkSAs NB: including #IPRED 2 #surveillance #censorshipDec 28 13:12
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schestowitzMinceR: yes, exactlyDec 28 13:12
schestowitzBut... it's not RD censorshipDec 28 13:12
schestowitzAnd it stops the "bad guys"Dec 28 13:13
schestowitzaka "the tourrrists"Dec 28 13:13
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] Thank you to our donors: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/thank-you-our-donorsDec 28 13:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thank you to our donors | The Tor Blog .::. Size~: 12.14 KBDec 28 13:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] New poll: Open*Government 2011 best images | http://red.ht/unERUo #flickrDec 28 13:15
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MinceRhttp://falkvinge.net/2011/07/01/lawfully-good-lawfully-evil/Dec 28 13:18
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lawfully Good vs Lawfully Evil - Falkvinge on Infopolicy .::. Size~: 281.06 KBDec 28 13:18
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[torproject/@torproject] We're happy to accept donations via PayPal, checks, money orders, bank transfers etc. Details on https://www.torproject.org/donate/donateDec 28 13:24
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] #Mexico's cartels build own national radio system - http://yhoo.it/vyvSXC wow, that's what I call #resilienceDec 28 13:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mexico's cartels build own national radio system - Yahoo! News .::. Size~: 371.08 KBDec 28 13:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] 哈库纳马塔塔 (Hakuna Matata)Dec 28 14:05
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Open*Government: 2011 in review by @jhibbets | http://red.ht/umiYkp #opengov #gov20Dec 28 14:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[gbraad/@gbraad] ... a problem-free philosophy...Dec 28 14:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Interview with Jim Zemlin, Linux Foundation - http://bit.ly/shFEnM where he came from, where he's going... #linuxDec 28 14:16
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Blender Face Capture - http://bit.ly/t5hOm4 #blender is so cool #opensourceDec 28 14:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Public outraged by Phoenix man's euthanized cat http://goo.gl/m9Ct8 compassion !Capitalism styleDec 28 14:20
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] Iowa's million-dollar attack ads http://goo.gl/9FKvM not one of them has spotted that the system itself is broken beyond repairDec 28 14:27
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DailyMail rips off AP story, slaps on 'Daily Mail Reporter' byline http://goo.gl/5HcGS http://goo.gl/Uw4cz via @RichardA #TwitterDec 28 14:30
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Rove-linked group attacks Elizabeth Warren  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 125.18 KBDec 28 14:31
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Outside groups unleash barrage of TV attack ads in Massachusetts Senate race - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 107.51 KBDec 28 14:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Five things we learned about #publishing in 2011 - http://oreil.ly/vEdbSe summary: old-style publishers are doomedDec 28 14:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Five things we learned about publishing in 2011 - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 71.81 KBDec 28 14:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Church of the Nativity Clergy Brawl 2011 Goes Well - http://gaw.kr/rDp5FN thank goodness there are some things you can depend uponDec 28 14:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] pure, indeed! ♻ @jwalck: History of Plutocracy, awesome! Info: http://wa.lc/kXBV Pic: http://wa.lc/kJaB #28C3Dec 28 14:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Friend to Friend money workshop now at #28C3 :)Dec 28 14:47
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MinceRhttp://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=251&year=2011   http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=581&alert=170Dec 28 15:39
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: freedomhouse.org: Freedom Alert .::. Size~: 27.95 KBDec 28 15:39
MinceR(hungary)Dec 28 15:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] The Great Digitization Or The Great Betrayal? - http://bit.ly/rO9Om4 I'm looking at *you*, #BritishLibrary #copyrightDec 28 15:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Great Digitization Or The Great Betrayal? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.59 KBDec 28 15:40
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ #28c3 @maradydd: "Take away from today: IF YOUR APPLICATION RELIES ON A TURING COMPLETE PROTOCOL, IT WILL TAKE INFINITE TIME TO SECURE IT"Dec 28 15:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @DickHuuhn: TIL: HTML5 and CSS3 WITHOUT JavaScript is turing-complete. I lol'd so hard xD #28c3 #saal1Dec 28 15:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Well, that seems to mean, basically, that no HTML5 app can be secure. oh lawlz. #28C3 #Saal1Dec 28 15:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] U.S. Washington state lawmaker to push bill for school districts to move to open source learning materials in Jan: http://bit.ly/u8SdasDec 28 15:57
TechrightsBot-trTitle: State lawmaker favors cutting use of traditional textbooks in schools - KAYU .::. Size~: 112.13 KBDec 28 15:57
iophkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Consider_leaving_GoDaddy_over_SOPADec 28 15:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: User talk:Jimbo Wales - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 159.07 KBDec 28 15:59
iophk"I am proud to announce that the Wikipedia domain names will move away from GoDaddy. Their position on #sopa is unacceptable to us. (More details below.)--Jimbo Wales (talk) 18:53, 23 December 2011 (UTC)"Dec 28 15:59
MinceR:)Dec 28 16:01
koolhead11awesomeDec 28 16:08
koolhead11schestowitz: sirDec 28 16:08
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[creativecommons/@creativecommons] U.S. Washington state rep proposes #OER bill, encouraging use of #CC BY: http://bit.ly/txcjAbDec 28 16:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Radical openness in educational materials:  The next step in Washington « Official Reuven Carlyle Blog .::. Size~: 79.77 KBDec 28 16:10
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] if the act of digitising creates a new copyright, then it should go to who did the extra "work"; the scanner, not who pressed the buttonDec 28 16:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] sickDec 28 16:24
iophkThe statement about GoDaddy helps put Wiipedia in a little better light than it has been.Dec 28 16:26
MinceRindeedDec 28 16:26
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #Apple #Fined By Italy For #Misleading Customers About Warranty Terms http://goo.gl/SAUIVDec 28 16:30
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iophkhttp://www.peoplepets.com/people/pets/article/0,,20556983,00.htmlDec 28 16:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cheetah, Tarzan Chimpanzee, Dies at 80 : People.com .::. Size~: 41.53 KBDec 28 16:36
iophkAgr 80Dec 28 16:37
iophkhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/247074/go_daddy_rivals_aim_to_capitalize_on_sopa_controversy.htmlDec 28 16:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Go Daddy Rivals Aim to Capitalize on SOPA Controversy | PCWorld .::. Size~: 92.59 KBDec 28 16:40
amarsh04some telephone companies in Australia ran foul of the law when they tried to offer new mobile handsets on a contract longer than the warranty for the handsetDec 28 16:48
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Chimp from 1930s US ‘Tarzan’ films dead at 80 (Cheetah) http://goo.gl/HQanhDec 28 16:49
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Chimp from 1930s US ‘Tarzan’ films dead at 80 .::. Size~: 44.29 KBDec 28 16:49
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iophkWhen he didn’t like somebody or something that was going on, he would pick up some poop and throw it at them. He could get you at 30 feet with bars in between,’Dec 28 16:50
iophkGotta admire that.Dec 28 16:50
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Wayne #Madsen ( #USA) - #WWIII Has Begun – It`s the First Asymmetric War Long Awaited by Pentagon Think Tanks - http://goo.gl/FP6u9Dec 28 16:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Nuclear war on the horizon - English pravda.ru - #wwiii #nato #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/hsaHbDec 28 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Leaving Romania via Moraviţa, right now... :)Dec 28 17:00
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Gör något åt rättssystemets elände http://t.co/DVmd685K more: http://t.co/Gtnzt8FTDec 28 17:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Nuclear war on the horizon - English pravda.ru .::. Size~: 53.42 KBDec 28 17:01
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iophkhttp://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/81990/Dec 28 17:04
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iophkNot really backed down, just gotten quiet instead:Dec 28 17:05
iophkhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/12/28/godaddy_uturn/Dec 28 17:05
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iophkhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/davidcoursey/2011/12/28/idiot-godaddy-deserves-boycott/Dec 28 17:05
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Stupid GoDaddy Deserves Boycott - Forbes .::. Size~: 110.74 KBDec 28 17:05
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Domare underkänner politiska nämndemän | SVT http://t.co/wOYUVv4k more: http://t.co/h3BcA4pCDec 28 17:25
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[eff/@eff] 2011 in Review: #ACTA secret negotiations push for global copyright enforcement regime. https://eff.org/r.1MYDec 28 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] that's the rather unfortunate platform integration of openoffice/libreoffice, rather than a kde issue.Dec 28 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] just seriously tried hugin, a photo panaroma sticher, for the first time and am HIGHLY impressed. why did UBC encumber it with a patent?Dec 28 17:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 2011 in Review: Developments in ACTA | Electronic Frontier Foundation .::. Size~: 36.61 KBDec 28 17:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] #TOR project and @ioerror on scene, now talking about how Gov's tried censoring/blocking TOR. #28C3Dec 28 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] RT @forteller Shit. Talk about physical DRM… RT @doctorow: No interoperability between cochlear implant brands, lifelong lockin after su ...Dec 28 17:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] love this era! ♻ @forteller: RT @doctorow: Teachers complain kids with advanced hearing aids covertly stream music in class #28c3Dec 28 17:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Censorship in Tunisia: #Smartfilter, owner is... #Intel! "And they probably don't even know it" #28C3 #torDec 28 17:44
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Mega entrevista de Natal do #LibreOffice - http://t.co/FRlRxNlA very detailed #brazilDec 28 17:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] "Attack that needs China spend more manpower? That is *not* how you attack China" #TOR #28C3 #Saal1Dec 28 17:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] #Qatar builds up anti- #Syria Wahhabi army | CounterPsyOps - #nato #stateterrorism http://goo.gl/zc5gZDec 28 17:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Qatar builds up anti-Syria Wahhabi army | CounterPsyOps .::. Size~: 47.24 KBDec 28 17:56
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] if #SOPA passes - a video can be a felony. as in like murder. ur1.ca/71m9vDec 28 17:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[thistleweb/@thistleweb] #DRM is digital halitosis #fbDec 28 17:59
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Anonymous Hack on Stratfor Produces Over 50,000 Credit Card Numbers from DailyTech Main News Feed by Tiffany Kaiser http://ow.ly/8cgJZDec 28 18:19
TechrightsBot-trTitle: DailyTech - Anonymous Hack on Stratfor Produces Over 50,000 Credit Card Numbers .::. Size~: 55.03 KBDec 28 18:19
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Again, @telecomix mentioned FTW in the @ioerror/#TOR talk, although with a privacy caveat. #28C3 #Saal1Dec 28 18:43
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] What #IBM done during #WWII, this is EXACTLY what #WebSense, #Cisco, #BlueCoat, etc. is doing right now with dictatorships - @ioerror #28C3Dec 28 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Freedom itself is essential and those big players will not have enough protection until freedom and democracy are gutted.Dec 28 18:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] this may be a straw man. question may be what is he ignorant of wrt the needs of artists/musicians/etc. wrt Freedom in their realms?Dec 28 18:52
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] they most certainly should be free to modify, just not free to attribute the mods back to us. they are another's opinion at that point.Dec 28 18:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] I don't buy that. Plus, the enforcement structure needed to enforce copyright in today's world is the same for either case. BAD.Dec 28 18:57
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sebsebsebhiDec 28 19:00
MinceRhayDec 28 19:01
koolhead17sebsebseb: how have u beenDec 28 19:01
koolhead17MinceR: hey thereDec 28 19:01
sebsebsebkoolhead17: ok you?Dec 28 19:02
koolhead17am awesome. whats newDec 28 19:02
sebsebsebkoolhead17: not much,  quite a lot of people I don't know here thoughDec 28 19:02
koolhead17sebsebseb: how is distro taking shape?Dec 28 19:03
sebsebsebkoolhead17: ok I guess, altough  have had right issues, trying to my propritary Nivida driver installed in Mageia 2 Alpha 1 and Alpha 2, and so onDec 28 19:04
sebsebseb,but issues are expected with development versionsDec 28 19:04
koolhead17yes Dec 28 19:08
koolhead17correctDec 28 19:08
sebsebsebkoolhead17: however without a propritary NIvida driver, I can't run Gnome Shell it seemsDec 28 19:09
sebsebsebso hmmDec 28 19:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Perhaps the problem is thinking of freedom of works rather than freedom of people.Dec 28 19:09
MinceRi recommend XFCEDec 28 19:11
sebsebsebMinceR: much more DE choice now reallyDec 28 19:12
sebsebsebMGSE well kind of as oneDec 28 19:12
sebsebsebCinamonDec 28 19:12
sebsebsebCreameDE or whatever i twasDec 28 19:12
sebsebsebsomething else using QT as wellDec 28 19:12
sebsebseband yeahDec 28 19:12
sebsebsebUnity in a way as one, but it's not reallyDec 28 19:12
sebsebsebwell yeah quite a bit more graphical user interface choice for Linux distros now :)Dec 28 19:12
MinceRwhat's MGSE?Dec 28 19:13
sebsebsebyour joking you don't know?Dec 28 19:14
DaemonFCI'm going to shoot my neighborsDec 28 19:14
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 19:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] Why not just different legal issues?Dec 28 19:14
DaemonFCno jury in the world would convict meDec 28 19:14
sebsebsebMinceR: Mint Gnome Shell Extensions, however they are forking Gnome Shell as CinamonDec 28 19:14
MinceRoh, never heard of it called thatDec 28 19:14
sebsebsebspelt that wrong I think ^Dec 28 19:14
MinceRonly as CinnamonDec 28 19:14
sebsebsebnoDec 28 19:14
sebsebsebMGSE is firstDec 28 19:14
sebsebsebthat's in Mint 12Dec 28 19:15
MinceRand i think you meant Razor-QtDec 28 19:15
sebsebseb,but it seems for Mint 13, they will use this Cinnamon insteadDec 28 19:15
MinceR(though KDE and TDE are also using Qt)Dec 28 19:15
sebsebsebalso yes there's this Razor-Qt or whatever it wasDec 28 19:15
sebsebseb,but there's also CreamDEDec 28 19:15
sebsebseb!google creamdeDec 28 19:15
TechrightsBot-tr[1] - Home (Cream Desktop Environment) | http://cream-project.org/Dec 28 19:15
TechrightsBot-tr[2] - La Mer | Crème de la Mer | http://www.cremedelamer.com/templates/products/spp.tmpl%3FCATEGORY_ID%3DCATEGORY5778%26PRODUCT_ID%3DPROD2459Dec 28 19:15
TechrightsBot-tr[3] - Cream De La Cream - Laline USA | http://www.lalineusa.com/products/Cream-De-La-Cream.htmlDec 28 19:15
TechrightsBot-tr[4] - Skin Cream de Nurashite - MangaFox | http://www.mangafox.com/manga/skin_cream_de_nurashite/Dec 28 19:15
sebsebseband yep there's Mate as the Gnome 2 fork,  and Trinity and XFCE, and LXDE, and KDE, and so onDec 28 19:15
sebsebsebwe got loads of choice :DDec 28 19:16
sebsebseband Unity as a GUI thing etcDec 28 19:16
sebsebsebso much choice that it can be confussingDec 28 19:16
sebsebsebto new usersDec 28 19:16
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DaemonFCI finally got sick of ABRT and got rid of itDec 28 19:19
DaemonFCit logs every kernel warning and brings it up like it's important to the userDec 28 19:20
DaemonFC:PDec 28 19:20
DaemonFCso you report them and then they sit there forever because Fedora's kernel team doesn't care about themDec 28 19:20
DaemonFChttp://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2011/09/can-linux-kill-your-hardware-warning-to.htmlDec 28 19:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Thoughts on Technology: Can Linux Kill Your Hardware - A Warning to Asus T101MT Owners .::. Size~: 102.12 KBDec 28 19:22
DaemonFCthen he finds out it's enlightenment turning the display offDec 28 19:22
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 19:22
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DaemonFCniceDec 28 19:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Who's dumping Go Daddy to protest SOPA? http://ping.fm/4Hlu3Dec 28 19:22
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Who's dumping Go Daddy to protest SOPA? .::. Size~: 34.64 KBDec 28 19:23
DaemonFCthat's why I'm not a big fan of being able to control things like that over sysfsDec 28 19:23
DaemonFCbecause it lets userspace do stupid things to the hardware it has no business doingDec 28 19:23
DaemonFCif some idiot at the Enlightenment project decides to turn off your display on startup for some stupid reason, now they canDec 28 19:24
DaemonFC:)Dec 28 19:24
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sebsebseb Dec 28 19:25
DaemonFCif something in userspace decides to shut off the fan on your graphics card and let it overheatDec 28 19:26
DaemonFCit can (sometimes)Dec 28 19:26
DaemonFCif a desktop environment like GNOME decides one day that brightness settings for your display backlight will confuse you and decides that they think 43% is always the right setting, it will be 43% every time you boot and log into GNOMEDec 28 19:27
DaemonFCthe downside being you won't be able to read anything on the screen, but on the upside, it's one less applet in the control panelDec 28 19:28
DaemonFC:DDec 28 19:28
DaemonFCGNOME would do something like that too because they're so worried someone will customize it and someone else will walk up and not see it at its default settings, which are glorious :PDec 28 19:30
DaemonFCApple lying to sell AppleCare is not exclusive to ItalyDec 28 19:32
DaemonFCthey do that here tooDec 28 19:32
DaemonFCand it's not really being managed by them eitherDec 28 19:32
DaemonFCyou buy "AppleCare", it's really some third party insurance company that pays Apple to call it the official "AppleCare" extended warrantyDec 28 19:33
DaemonFCif your device breaks down, that company has to go pay Apple full retail price for a new oneDec 28 19:33
DaemonFCthat's why AppleCare is so expensiveDec 28 19:33
DaemonFCso unless you're a complete moron who plans to spill coffee all over the device or leave it on the floor to be stepped on, you're better off without thatDec 28 19:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @forteller @doctorow: police don't need a surveillance state. We lived through all human history without one, we don't need one now #28C3Dec 28 19:34
DaemonFCThe thing about insurance companies is they always have to charge enough to pay their overhead and make a profitDec 28 19:36
DaemonFCso they'll figure on a certain number of Apple customers who spill coffee on their $800 ipad or sit on it and crack the screenDec 28 19:37
DaemonFCadd about 30-40% for profitDec 28 19:37
DaemonFCadd a little more to pay Apple to use the name AppleCareDec 28 19:37
DaemonFCadd some more to pay their overheadDec 28 19:37
DaemonFCand then your AppleCare plan costs like $100 a year for a device that's intended to be thrown away about every two years anywayDec 28 19:38
schestowitzHey, lads, we're officially a "group" http://news.techeye.net/software/techrights-group-calls-for-apple-boycottDec 28 19:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Techrights group calls for Apple boycott - Android lawsuits show something's off | TechEye .::. Size~: 21.57 KBDec 28 19:39
schestowitzLove the pictureDec 28 19:39
sebsebsebhmm just started a chat with someone whoDec 28 19:40
sebsebsebhas a Windows Phone nowDec 28 19:40
sebsebseband she likes itDec 28 19:40
sebsebsebapparnatly half her friends do as wellDec 28 19:40
sebsebseband the other half AndroidDec 28 19:40
sebsebseband apparnalty according to her loads of people swapped from Android to Windows recently as well, hmmDec 28 19:40
DaemonFCI doubt itDec 28 19:40
DaemonFCMicrosoft was resorting to giving away Windows Phones in exchange for people who made up the best Android "horror stories"Dec 28 19:41
DaemonFCas a promo Dec 28 19:41
sebsebseband I did the, but Micrsooft apparnatly make $5 each time they sell Android since the Linux kernel apparnatly breaks patents, thing, and she's like, so why do I care who makes money from that?Dec 28 19:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Reddit Users to Target Supporters of #SOPA in Congress After Successful Boycott of GoDaddy - http://onforb.es/viF8fp could be funDec 28 19:41
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sebsebseb,but I knew she would bel ike that reallyDec 28 19:41
sebsebsebshe doesn't care much about what OS she runsDec 28 19:41
DaemonFCwhy do they care if the story is true or not?Dec 28 19:41
DaemonFCthey provided an incentive for "testimonials"Dec 28 19:41
DaemonFCnot for telling the truthDec 28 19:41
DaemonFCthis way they can't be cited for false advertising when they quote bullshit about AndroidDec 28 19:42
DaemonFCit's like when those health food and vitamin companies pay some famous athlete to "endorse" themDec 28 19:42
DaemonFCdo they really use those products? probably notDec 28 19:43
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sebsebsebapparnatly her boy friend who's into Linux, got one toDec 28 19:44
sebsebsebhmmDec 28 19:44
DaemonFCrighthaven's website is up for auctionDec 28 19:45
DaemonFCto cover their bills from when their speculative copyright trolling backfired on themDec 28 19:46
sebsebsebat least she still doesn't like Apple thoughDec 28 19:46
sebsebseb:)Dec 28 19:47
iophksebsebseb: Windows use cancels that out.Dec 28 19:47
DaemonFChttp://wmpoweruser.com/charlie-kindel-is-wrong-about-why-windows-phone-has-not-taken-off/Dec 28 19:48
DaemonFClolDec 28 19:48
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Charlie Kindel is wrong about Why Windows Phone has not taken off | WMPoweruser .::. Size~: 161.65 KBDec 28 19:48
DaemonFCthe Android fragmentation is typically seen on cheap no-name low end devicesDec 28 19:48
DaemonFCit would be better for Google if they told anyone who wasn't certified that they couldn't call it AndroidDec 28 19:49
iophkIt hasn't taken off because 1) it sucks, 2) people are tired of Windows on their desktop and don't want it anywhere near their phone.Dec 28 19:49
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @neptune78 Playmobil Security Check Point: http://tinyurl.com/bo3jfr5 #TSA #Policestate #cuteDec 28 19:49
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DaemonFCif a device maker takes an old build of Android, sticks it on bad hardware, locks their own applications on it, removes access to other app stores.....Dec 28 19:50
sebsebsebiophk: well this girl likes WIndowsDec 28 19:50
schestowitzI got 5 new posts coming..Dec 28 19:50
DaemonFCit's not AndroidDec 28 19:50
sebsebsebiophk: and has used Linux beforeDec 28 19:50
DaemonFCthey have effectively made something elseDec 28 19:50
schestowitzsebsebseb: likes or tolerates?Dec 28 19:50
DaemonFCand it's likely to throw gasoline on the fireDec 28 19:50
sebsebsebshe actsualy likes WindowsDec 28 19:50
schestowitzor passively introduced to itDec 28 19:50
DaemonFCand give Microsoft and Apple something to point to when saying Android is crapDec 28 19:50
DaemonFCGoogle should assert their trademark rightsDec 28 19:50
sebsebsebshe doesn't like Linux much from when she has tried distrosDec 28 19:50
sebsebsebUbuntuDec 28 19:50
DaemonFCand force manufacturers that pull this shit to call it something elseDec 28 19:50
DaemonFCI wouldn't want my name on bad devices that have been locked down and won't let the user decide what to do on themDec 28 19:51
DaemonFCbut Google isn't preventing thatDec 28 19:51
schestowitzGoogle hardly makes phonesDec 28 19:52
schestowitzIt's up to whoever the OHA partner isDec 28 19:52
DaemonFCand it's becoming a stain on the Android name when companies like COBY and Pandigital, which are also GPL violators, get their hands on "Android"Dec 28 19:52
DaemonFCGoogle has basically turned "Android into a loosely defined generic trademark to get their numbers upDec 28 19:54
DaemonFCyou can call anything Android whether it's Platinum or last week's garbageDec 28 19:54
DaemonFC;)Dec 28 19:54
DaemonFCso naturally there are some great Android devicesDec 28 19:55
DaemonFCand a lot of crap with something calling itself AndroidDec 28 19:55
DaemonFCso people never know what you mean when you say AndroidDec 28 19:55
DaemonFCthey usually take it to mean the $99 crap at Walmart vs. the relatively coherent iOSDec 28 19:56
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DaemonFCmy cousin replaced her old ipad with a Motorola Xoom after I mentioned what "Android" really meansDec 28 19:56
DaemonFCyou get a good experience with some higher end devicesDec 28 19:57
DaemonFCand a really lousy one with the stuff they tend to sell at WalmartDec 28 19:57
sebsebsebwell sure that's trueDec 28 19:57
sebsebsebAndroid will go on a load of the cheaper phones as wellDec 28 19:57
DaemonFCGoogle should set terms to call it AndroidDec 28 19:57
DaemonFClike, no locking users out of the Android MarketDec 28 19:57
DaemonFC;)Dec 28 19:57
DaemonFCand minimum requirements for screen resolution and dpi for any given size screenDec 28 19:58
DaemonFCso you don't get 10" tablets with a resolution of 600 x 800Dec 28 19:58
DaemonFC;)Dec 28 19:58
DaemonFCand if you want to distribute Android outside of those terms, you can't call it Android anyway and piggyback off the mindshare of the good Android devicesDec 28 19:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mrdenticator/@mrdenticator] Yesterday top #statustician is gomerx from http://ur1.ca/6as77 with 64 dents!Dec 28 19:59
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DaemonFCsome device makers that use Android don't call it Android because they'd be giving their users a false impression of what they're buyingDec 28 20:00
DaemonFCNook and Kindle Fire for exampleDec 28 20:00
DaemonFCwhich are good devices, but they aren't marketed as anything other than what they areDec 28 20:00
DaemonFCAndroid-based walled gardensDec 28 20:00
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/piplzchoice/statuses/152099875906007040Dec 28 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr@piplzchoice: That is an interesting perspective - Should We Organize an Apple Boycott? | Techrights http://t.co/x4RfhC5G via @addthisDec 28 20:02
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/unikordouble/statuses/152095971545841664Dec 28 20:02
TechrightsBot-tr@unikordouble: Techrights призывает бойкотировать Apple http://t.co/b07STh9wDec 28 20:02
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schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/jgrabell/statuses/152074857029439489Dec 28 20:03
TechrightsBot-tr@jgrabell: Boycott Apple? I've been doing it for years... http://t.co/6tICXKEEDec 28 20:03
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DaemonFC"The legacy of Windows Mobile bugginess and high support costs also throws a long shadow over Windows Phone carrier relationships"Dec 28 20:03
DaemonFCyou'd think that would turn off some big OEMs with Windows desktopDec 28 20:03
schestowitzhttp://www.thelinuxcrowd.com/?p=111540&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=techrights-calls-for-apple-boycott-itproportalDec 28 20:04
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DaemonFCMicrosoft doesn't ever support Windows except when you buy it as a retail product, which is few copies soldDec 28 20:04
DaemonFCthey point you at the company you bought the computer fromDec 28 20:04
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] R» @jasonriedy: Overhearing web "developers" discuss using a credit card number as a user id. sighDec 28 20:04
DaemonFCand let them get a barrage of "Why is my computer getting slow and popping up porn ads?"Dec 28 20:04
iophkgtgDec 28 20:05
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DaemonFCThere's several reasons why Windows Phone isn't doing wellDec 28 20:09
DaemonFCand one of them is Microsoft trying to take away control from OEMs and carriersDec 28 20:09
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DaemonFCWindows CE has never done well on phones because of thatDec 28 20:10
DaemonFCif they carry just enough to meet the minimal demand without letting Microsoft take over their business, then they consider themselves to be doing wellDec 28 20:10
DaemonFCbut Windows CE on phones and tablets is a very niche productDec 28 20:11
DaemonFCthe only Windows CE tablets and netbooks I've seen were those ones being sold cheaply by no-name OEMs at the drugstoreDec 28 20:12
DaemonFCeven Walmart isn't touching thatDec 28 20:12
DaemonFCWindows Mobile and iOS don't interest meDec 28 20:13
DaemonFCit's not just that they are technically inferiorDec 28 20:14
DaemonFCI don't like buying an expensive device that Apple never really gives up control overDec 28 20:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[glynmoody/@glynmoody] Copyright Tourism: Korean Companies Sue Guy From Australia For #Copyright Infringement... In California - http://bit.ly/ruP1gA bad precedentDec 28 20:14
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DaemonFCthey control what you can run on it, you can only use their app store with no free software allowedDec 28 20:14
DaemonFCthey can remotely delete anything they wantDec 28 20:14
DaemonFCand it's up to them whether they refund your money (even though that still doesn't make it OK)Dec 28 20:15
DaemonFCit's like saying "I took a bat to your big screen TV, but here's compensation for what I felt it was worth"Dec 28 20:16
DaemonFCit doesn't change the fact that I violated your homeDec 28 20:16
DaemonFCand denied you the use of your propertyDec 28 20:16
DaemonFCJamie Zawinski had a recent run in with Apple's App StoreDec 28 20:18
DaemonFCeven if all you do is give away your software for free, you have to pay Apple $100 a yearDec 28 20:18
DaemonFCor they delete everything and stop hosting it for their customersDec 28 20:18
MinceRjwz is still devoted to crApple, isn't he?Dec 28 20:19
MinceRever since he lost his mindDec 28 20:19
MinceRno matter how many times they screw him over and how hardDec 28 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Reader’s Picks Android Approved By Pentagon For DoD Usage, Major Setback For iPhone This article makes some great http://ur1.ca/71q65Dec 28 20:19
DaemonFCwell, he complains about them an awful lotDec 28 20:19
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Reader’s Picks Android Approved By Pentagon For DoD Usage, Major Setback For iPhone This article makes some great http://ur1. ...Dec 28 20:19
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DaemonFCthen goes right on using themDec 28 20:19
DaemonFCthe App Store incidentDec 28 20:19
DaemonFCthe kernel bug that broke some of his terminal apps that haven't ran since OS X 10.5Dec 28 20:20
DaemonFCthat he reportedDec 28 20:20
DaemonFCthat they still haven't fixedDec 28 20:20
DaemonFCSafari's stupid print layout that wastes paper or likes to chop the edges off a print jobDec 28 20:20
DaemonFCand Xcode now refusing to build fat binaries and anything for OS X 10.4 or earlier, periodDec 28 20:21
DaemonFCthose were my favorites anywayDec 28 20:21
DaemonFCso basically anyone left using OS X 10.4 is out in the doghouseDec 28 20:22
DaemonFCthey can't even get updated builds of Firefox nowDec 28 20:22
DaemonFCand it's not even THAT oldDec 28 20:22
DaemonFCand soon, anyone on PowerPC will get no new softwareDec 28 20:22
DaemonFCno matter what OS X version they runDec 28 20:23
DaemonFCthe future is not looking so bright for IntelDec 28 20:23
DaemonFCeventually I wouldn't be surprised if Apple leaves Intel and starts using ARM on their desktopsDec 28 20:23
DaemonFCand then everyone has to go through another "transition"Dec 28 20:24
DaemonFCit seems to happen with Apple with alarming frequencyDec 28 20:24
DaemonFCit helps them break old software and obsolete computers fasterDec 28 20:24
MinceRthey could get new softwareDec 28 20:24
MinceRthey just need to upgrade to a GNU/Linux distribution that supports PowerPCDec 28 20:25
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DaemonFCMinceR: These are people who are like infants if they don't have Dock, Safari, and FinderDec 28 20:25
DaemonFCdo you think they'd be able to adjust to a system that lets them do whatever they want, however they want to do it?Dec 28 20:26
MinceRif they can't then i don't care about them :>Dec 28 20:26
DaemonFCmy mom called earlierDec 28 20:27
DaemonFCfreaking out because she can't get a Flash video to play and doesn't know what a hyperlink isDec 28 20:27
DaemonFCor the difference between an address bar and search barDec 28 20:28
Diablo-D3erDec 28 20:28
Diablo-D3debian doesDec 28 20:28
DaemonFCso I'm getting ready to go over there and spent like 5 seconds making her flash video playDec 28 20:28
Diablo-D3ctcp version meDec 28 20:28
DaemonFCit's sad when you introduce older people to modern technologyDec 28 20:28
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DaemonFCI can understand why some people see Apple as their crutchDec 28 20:29
MinceRthen they could upgrade to debian and even get mono :>Dec 28 20:29
DaemonFCbbiabDec 28 20:29
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Diablo-D3noDec 28 20:29
Diablo-D3mono's shit still does not have C only versions of stuff iircDec 28 20:29
MinceRso?Dec 28 20:30
Diablo-D3no ppc asm.Dec 28 20:30
MinceRoh.Dec 28 20:30
Diablo-D3unless they did, of courseDec 28 20:30
MinceRi'll checkDec 28 20:30
MinceRdebian does seem to have powerpc tomboy packagesDec 28 20:30
Diablo-D3huh, maybe mono does work on ppc nowDec 28 20:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] LG Display hit by Chinese employee strike - bonuses were one-sixth the size of those received by South Korean workers http://ping.fm/FTgrQDec 28 20:31
Diablo-D3not that it mattersDec 28 20:31
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Diablo-D3its slow ass shitDec 28 20:31
MinceRdebian doesn't care, they install it by default if you install gnome :>Dec 28 20:32
Diablo-D3er, no it doesnt.Dec 28 20:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lwnnet/@lwnnet] Wednesday's security updates http://ur1.ca/71qgkDec 28 20:34
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Diablo-D3it never didDec 28 20:34
Diablo-D3that was ubuntu, dudeDec 28 20:35
Diablo-D3the only thing debian does is give you a choice of appsDec 28 20:35
MinceRdebian does it tooDec 28 20:35
Diablo-D3install tombody? get mono, install that other thing? dont get monoDec 28 20:36
MinceReven if you select the gui task in their installerDec 28 20:36
Diablo-D3no one on debian uses any silly guisDec 28 20:36
Diablo-D3so dont spread fudDec 28 20:36
MinceRthen they install gnome, which depends on tomboy, which can also be satisfied by gnote, but the installer satisfies it via tomboyDec 28 20:36
MinceRwhich brings in gnomeDec 28 20:36
Diablo-D3debian does not install gnome by default.Dec 28 20:36
MinceRit does if you ask for a guiDec 28 20:36
Diablo-D3then why are you asking for it?Dec 28 20:36
Diablo-D3apt-get it, dont be a noob.Dec 28 20:36
MinceRbecause i often installed it for desktop useDec 28 20:37
MinceR(or laptop)Dec 28 20:37
Diablo-D3so?Dec 28 20:37
Diablo-D3use apt-get.Dec 28 20:37
Diablo-D3apt-get install gnome gnoteDec 28 20:37
Diablo-D3was that really that hard?Dec 28 20:37
MinceRwhy use apt-get if the installer claims it can start me off with a gui?Dec 28 20:37
MinceR(and iirc it also installs synaptic)Dec 28 20:37
Diablo-D3because you're using debian, not ubuntuDec 28 20:37
Diablo-D3if you want to go fuck your box up, go use ubuntuDec 28 20:38
MinceRthat argument does not make senseDec 28 20:38
Diablo-D3it makes perfect sense, ubuntu is for people who love windows.Dec 28 20:38
Diablo-D3if you like windows so much, why dont you marry itDec 28 20:38
MinceRno, windows is for people who love windowsDec 28 20:38
Diablo-D3its probably filled with raw sewerage, why dont you rub your face all over itDec 28 20:38
MinceRubuntu is for people who want macos, but can't afford itDec 28 20:38
MinceRsadly, debian is becoming ubuntuDec 28 20:39
Diablo-D3same difference.Dec 28 20:39
Diablo-D3debian is not becomming ubuntuDec 28 20:39
Diablo-D3that is slander.Dec 28 20:39
MinceRall right, debian became ubuntu a while agoDec 28 20:39
MinceRfeel better now?Dec 28 20:39
Diablo-D3go take your pro-microsoft fud elsewhere, noobDec 28 20:39
MinceRi don't see how this is pro-m$Dec 28 20:39
MinceRor FUD, for that matterDec 28 20:39
MinceRit's a fact anyone can check by installing debian and requesting a GUI in the installerDec 28 20:40
Diablo-D3then dont do that.Dec 28 20:41
Diablo-D3install debian the debian way and quit bitchingDec 28 20:41
MinceRi don't do thatDec 28 20:42
MinceRi use fedora insteadDec 28 20:42
Diablo-D3lol, microsoft lover.Dec 28 20:42
MinceRRH isn't m$ eitherDec 28 20:42
Diablo-D3they ship mono on the install cdDec 28 20:42
MinceRhere's a news flash for you: most distros aren't associated with m$Dec 28 20:42
MinceRthey don't install it by default though, unlike debianDec 28 20:43
MinceReven on GUI installsDec 28 20:43
Diablo-D3so? they still ship it on the install media.Dec 28 20:43
Diablo-D3just like ubuntuDec 28 20:43
MinceRubuntu installs mono by defaultDec 28 20:43
MinceRand fedora doesn't bring in mono as a dependency even if you install gnomeDec 28 20:43
MinceRunlike debian and ubuntuDec 28 20:44
MinceRso if anyone is a m$ lover here, it's youDec 28 20:44
Diablo-D3I think debian should package mono in non-free, so its not me.Dec 28 20:45
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schestowitzhttp://www.tomsguide.com/us/Columbia-University-HP-LaserJet-Printer-Exploit,news-13671.htmlDec 28 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Review: #Chakra 2011.12 "Edn" http://goo.gl/ZRFpZ #gnu #linuxDec 28 22:07
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Das U-Blog by Prashanth: Review: Chakra 2011.12 "Edn" .::. Size~: 95.76 KBDec 28 22:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Linux Gains Respect from Enterprise http://ur1.ca/71sir #linuxDec 28 22:09
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Gains Respect from Enterprise,Linux adoption rates in the enterprise,Clear advantages on usability and TCO related benefits .::. Size~: 39.53 KBDec 28 22:09
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Clonezilla: A Drive-Duping Monster With a Fearsome Face http://ur1.ca/71sjo #gnu #linuxDec 28 22:11
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Technology News: Reviews: Clonezilla: A Drive-Duping Monster With a Fearsome Face .::. Size~: 51.55 KBDec 28 22:11
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] #TinyCore Linux 4.2 released http://ur1.ca/71so6Dec 28 22:16
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Refactored Tiny Core Linux 4.2 released - The H Open Source: News and Features .::. Size~: 40.25 KBDec 28 22:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Interview with Jim Zemlin, Linux Foundation http://goo.gl/8wQno #linux #kernelDec 28 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Interview with Jim Zemlin, Linux Foundation  - Open Enterprise .::. Size~: 98.97 KBDec 28 22:33
tessierWhy just Linux or Mac?Dec 28 22:44
tessierAnd we're talking about upgrading the firmware in the printer right? Any host on the network could do that.Dec 28 22:45
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] Mamy jakichś ludzi z Polski na #28C3? Widzę "Bogini" na Bluetooth i się zastanawiam. ;)Dec 28 23:02
schestowitzWe got some coverage from more news sites, even in  Russia http://fenomen.ws/anti-patentnaya-gruppa-prizyvaet-bojkotirovat-apple/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterDec 28 23:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Анти-патентная группа призывает бойкотировать Apple|Феноменальные новости .::. Size~: 174.89 KBDec 28 23:13
schestowitzhttp://www.itproportal.com/2011/12/28/techrights-calls-apple-boycott/Dec 28 23:13
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Techrights Calls for Apple Boycott | ITProPortal.com .::. Size~: 35.31 KBDec 28 23:13
schestowitzhttp://news.techeye.net/software/techrights-group-calls-for-apple-boycott#utm_source=thetecheye&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=defaultDec 28 23:14
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bad Request .::. Size~: 0.32 KBDec 28 23:14
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rysiek/@rysiek] ♻ @minut_ee: RT @Nin_99: #XSS Lulz @ CIA: ur1.ca/71uuf #28c3Dec 28 23:14
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Good evening !Identiverse (sleep well @sandersch ) !tzagDec 28 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Sick kids and indies win with Humble Bundle’s record $2.37 million haul http://goo.gl/ThNp7 #gnu #linux #games #mac #win32Dec 28 23:28
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sick kids and indies win with Humble Bundle’s record $2.37 million haul - Video Game Writers .::. Size~: 65.95 KBDec 28 23:28
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @schestowitz Sick kids and indies win with Humble Bundle’s record $2.37 million haul http://goo.gl/ThNp7 #gnu #linux #games #mac #win32Dec 28 23:29
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sick kids and indies win with Humble Bundle’s record $2.37 million haul - Video Game Writers .::. Size~: 65.98 KBDec 28 23:29
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Although I love visiting with family over the holidays, I surely do agree with Dorothy, "There's no place like home!" !qDec 28 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @bananabob Chef spends 4000 yuan homemaking a knockoff Hummer | #crazy !bananas - http://identi.ca/url/63328287... http://identi.ca/u ...Dec 28 23:31
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: u - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 14.48 KBDec 28 23:31
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Obama Memo: Redeem Yourself With Rail http://ur1.ca/71v8s #oil lobby won't approveDec 28 23:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Obama Memo: Redeem Yourself With Rail | Gregor.us .::. Size~: 20.43 KBDec 28 23:33
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] @tekk that makes us even.... ;) 'coz I miss your vampavatarDec 28 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[zotz/@zotz] not quite that bad....Dec 28 23:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Yeah, @x11r5, there's a lot of that going around this time of year. Between AA & specialty batteries, I choose AA every time #rechargableDec 28 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] How #NSA Battled #Crypto Competition - http://ur1.ca/71vd1Dec 28 23:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: How NSA Battled Crypto Competition .::. Size~: 68.55 KBDec 28 23:38
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @forteller @rysiek Yes. I agree. The concept is just awesome! #PioneerOne We need to spread this more! Read: http://bit.ly/vhwlIYDec 28 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] ACM Classic: Reflections on Trusting Trust - #software #kenthompson http://ur1.ca/be80Dec 28 23:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: 'Pioneer One' Revisited: You Better Be Watching This Show .::. Size~: 134.18 KBDec 28 23:39
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ACM Classic: Reflections on Trusting Trust .::. Size~: 10.34 KBDec 28 23:39
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Political hacks control Swedish courts which have no juries. | SVD http://t.co/151zSf8S more more: http://t.co/NIPM4W1HDec 28 23:41
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cable from Burma shows American diplomats who "would also like to assist in distributing USB sticks Internews has devel http://ur1.ca/71vnvDec 28 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Cablegate: US Government Implies Proprietary Software Leaves Digital Footprint http://ur1.ca/71vnv #wlDec 28 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[boycottnovell/@boycottnovell] RT @ Cable from Burma shows American diplomats who "would also like to assist in distributing USB sticks Internews has devel http://ur1. ...Dec 28 23:51
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[wikileaks2/@wikileaks2] Sweden's Political Lay Judge System: Pretty Secure? Or Pretty Much Not? http://t.co/J7LmzeQ7 #Assange more: http://t.co/NIPM4W1HDec 28 23:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cablegate: US Government Implies Proprietary Software Leaves Digital Footprint | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.13 KBDec 28 23:51
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Zecharia #Sitchin - Under the X-Ray - The #Anunnaki Enigma Documentary Part 1 - YouTube http://ur1.ca/71vpbDec 28 23:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Zecharia Sitchin - Under the X-Ray - The Anunnaki Enigma Documentary Part 1       - YouTube .::. Size~: 147.07 KBDec 28 23:53
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ovigia/@ovigia] Cops Strip Man Naked Then Pepper Spray Him To Death | Before It's News - #usa #policestate http://goo.gl/WNJEPDec 28 23:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Before It's News .::. Size~: 11.68 KBDec 28 23:56
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[jankusanagi/@jankusanagi] #Auralquiz v0.7, a !Qt based music quiz game for #GnuLinux is out: http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/?content=139127Dec 28 23:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Auralquiz Qt-Apps.org .::. Size~: 91.45 KBDec 28 23:59

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