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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100825272 http://identi.ca/notice/100693746May 03 02:37
TechrightsSocial@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 03-May-13 00:54:22 UTC - Identi.ca: "'Randomly' selected for airport security screening twice this time"…what @schestowitz got for his digital activism & questioning status quoMay 03 02:37
TechrightsSocial@Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Monday, 22-Apr-13 01:17:20 UTC - Identi.ca: REMINDER: Tmw is #CISPA #Internet #Blackout Day. #Protest This Draconian Law! #StopCISPA or Say Goodbye to Your Rights! #FightForLibertyMay 03 02:37
qu1j0t3schestowitz: wbMay 03 02:42
qu1j0t3schestowitz: what border was that?May 03 02:42
schestowitzmanchesterMay 03 03:04
qu1j0t3flying within the UK?May 03 03:26
qu1j0t3wowMay 03 03:26
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100825859May 03 03:31
TechrightsSocial@Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Friday, 03-May-13 02:24:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No worries. Just wondered if it was related to social advocacy issues/topics. (Traveling soon myself.)May 03 03:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2556159May 03 04:06
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Two Alternatives To Gimp On The Linux Desktop  http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=two_alternatives_to_gimp_on_the_linux_de&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 #gimp #gnu #linuxMay 03 04:06
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Penguin Pete's Blog - Two Alternatives To Gimp On The Linux Desktop .::. Size~: 24.41 KBMay 03 04:06
schestowitz"I've frozen my GIMP installation at 2.26 (i think). I've had trouble with pen support in any later version."May 03 04:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504360May 03 04:06
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Stone #Throwers of #PalestineMay 03 04:06
TechrightsSocial  Photo by vladze@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_34805d7cfedd2225b49e.jpgMay 03 04:06
schestowitz"May 03 04:06
schestowitzOh no! Not the poor blond babies!May 03 04:06
schestowitzPalestine children:May 03 04:07
schestowitzWhere's the source for that cropped picture, btw?May 03 04:07
schestowitz"May 03 04:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2452608May 03 04:08
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New York Cops will Arrest you for Carrying Condoms http://newscitybuzz.com/new-york-cops-will-arrest-you-for-carrying-condoms/9683 #nypd #policestate ; & #assange hounded for not carrying oneMay 03 04:08
schestowitz"i'm pretty sure bloomberg is a satanist but i need more conclusive proof"May 03 04:08
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: needs upvote. https://www.quora.com/Boston-Marathon-Terrorist-Attacks-April-2013/Do-the-Boston-Marathon-Explosions-give-Americans-a-better-idea-of-the-feelings-of-Israelis-regarding-terrorism/answer/Iren%C3%A9-Colthurst May 03 06:32
TechrightsSocialTitle: Irené Colthurst's answer to Boston Marathon Terrorist Attacks (April 2013): Do the Boston Marathon Explosions give Americans a better idea of the feelings of Israelis regarding terrorism? - Quora .::. Size~: 48.49 KBMay 03 06:32
eikonosthe boston bombings can't even help us understand what it's like to live in the same town as a drone strikeMay 03 07:00
schestowitzdrones are believed to be accurateMay 03 07:01
schestowitzand theitr targets, inc. bystanders, of low value of negative valueMay 03 07:01
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100827394May 03 07:03
TechrightsSocial@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Friday, 03-May-13 05:55:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz They look suspicious. But we can't tell 'em that, unfortunately...May 03 07:03
qu1j0t3eikonos: of course not.May 03 07:10
qu1j0t3eikonos: but that's not really the pointMay 03 07:10
qu1j0t3eikonos: the point is that it's the wrong question, and she says thisMay 03 07:10
qu1j0t3eikonos: by forcing people to join dots she got collapsed on Quora, which is what happens to iconoclasts there :)May 03 07:12
schestowitz> Hi, Roy,May 03 08:08
schestowitz> May 03 08:08
schestowitz> Welcome back.  I hope you had a good vacation.May 03 08:08
schestowitzThanks, it was nice. Now I need to catch up. I'll read all the links below, but this will take time...May 03 08:08
schestowitz> I've spent the last few days editing several chapters in my wikibook onMay 03 08:10
schestowitz> OpenSSH.  https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSHMay 03 08:10
TechrightsSocialTitle: OpenSSH - Wikibooks, open books for an open world .::. Size~: 30.69 KBMay 03 08:10
schestowitzCool :-)May 03 08:10
schestowitz"May 03 09:14
schestowitzA little anti-GPL disinformation in the summary, but no details of whatMay 03 09:14
schestowitzthey actually are going to provide. A weasel word 'including' is included:May 03 09:14
schestowitzhttps://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/finnish-education-board-funds-open-source-cloud-services-schoolsMay 03 09:14
schestowitz"May 03 09:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: Finnish education board funds open source cloud services for schools | Joinup .::. Size~: 32.48 KBMay 03 09:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2589026May 03 11:48
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Asked why they harass me at borders, security (harassment) personnel refused to give me an answer. I did not *look* suspicious.May 03 11:48
schestowitz"What borders? They're there for defense and to enforce tariffs. A lot of it is just sloppy police work resulting on crap they're getting from above. They make it disadvantageous for the officers to respect your rights in few circumstances where there is a problem. Thus the officers get lazy and muscle you initially so you don't try to retain your rights. It's also a compartmentalized "us vs them" mentality. By all means May 03 11:52
schestowitzuphold your rights, but also feel sorry for the cops who live this everyday. You could, and most likely are, on some of their many lists too. Take it as a complement, and try to be nice to the ones who don't really want to harass you."May 03 11:52
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schestowitzJust to let you know, BT has been a massive disaster since January this year, with serious issues that led to about 10 hours of calls and two visits. It seems like a hardware issue. Today the OpenReach people came and fixed a faceplate on the other socket, the one near the sofa (there are two now), which hopefully will resolve this massive fiasco. At the end of the day there is more stuff and sockets available now which - if May 03 15:52
schestowitzanything - adds value to the place.May 03 15:52
qu1j0t3"The two-year-old government has cut scientific research, muzzled its scientists, put limits on the independence of Statistics Canada and is facing charges that it plans to wield more influence over the CBC.May 03 16:00
qu1j0t3Harper has abdicated the federal role in setting national health care policy in this country, a radical break from convention in which the federal government provided the cash and left the delivery to the provinces.May 03 16:00
qu1j0t3In fact, Harper has essentially ended group consultations with premiers in any form, meeting them one-on-one and eschewing the grand federal-provincial conferences of yore.May 03 16:00
qu1j0t3Quietly, this government has also reshaped the Employment Insurance program, pushing the unemployed to uproot and accept jobs at less pay, a move that has faced stiff criticism in Atlantic Canada, if a more muted response elsewhere.May 03 16:00
qu1j0t3fuck harperMay 03 16:02
MinceRbut use a condomMay 03 16:03
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eikonosi asked the rusty iron pole, and it's not too worried about the condomMay 03 17:37
eikonosseriously though, hopefully moderate canadians who might have voted harper in the past can see that he's a complete disaster and will vote for someone else the next time aroundMay 03 17:38
eikonosand hopefully our prehistoric voting system doesn't split the left vote down the middle and let the cons walk away with more seatsMay 03 17:38
eikonosthat faulty system needs to be fixedMay 03 17:38
qu1j0t3i'm not optimisticMay 03 17:42
eikonoswell, we had figured that out already :PMay 03 17:43
MinceRrusty iron pole ftwMay 03 19:02
MinceRdidn't they vote for harper several times in a row already?May 03 19:03
eikonosyes, but i think this is the first time he's had a majorityMay 03 19:05
qu1j0t3right, and right.May 03 19:09
qu1j0t3see also, "no optimism".May 03 19:09
qu1j0t3that was even _before_ he could secretly buy propaganda May 03 19:10
qu1j0t3we know some of his tactics, thoughMay 03 19:10
qu1j0t3again, involving secrecy. it's what he does.May 03 19:10
schestowitztoday near my house I saw a huge banner advertising daily flights from Manchester to .sg, but checking online I can only find indirect flights (I tried on the Sing. Airlines site). Something seems odd here; I'm sure there used to be direct flights...May 03 19:59
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/notice/100834092May 03 20:01
TechrightsSocial@Evan Prodromou (evan)'s status on Friday, 03-May-13 17:54:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz weapons of mass instruction, as the old saw goes.May 03 20:01
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/330394214405914625  schestowitz eikonos May 03 20:02
TechrightsSocial@kgosztola: No press freedom for those who aggressively report on America's dirty wars http://t.co/5oFDruH56X #WPFDMay 03 20:02
TechrightsSocial-> Title: No Press Freedom for Those Who Aggressively Report on America’s Dirty Wars |  The Dissenter .::. Size~: 46.92 KBMay 03 20:02
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Read somehwere that Trudeau is leading in the pollsMay 03 20:07
XFaCEqu1j0t3: You mentioned outrage fatigue before, I bet Canadians are past beyond suffering Harper fatigueMay 03 20:08
qu1j0t3XFaCE: i don't believe it will translate into action.May 03 20:09
eikonosthat's what i'm worried aboutMay 03 20:09
qu1j0t3XFaCE: however, the ouster of Liberals/Paul Martin MAY be a counterexampleMay 03 20:09
eikonoswe need some kind of action plan, economic or otherwiseMay 03 20:09
qu1j0t3but i see no sign at allMay 03 20:09
qu1j0t3that the sleeping public is going to reject harperMay 03 20:09
qu1j0t3i wish i didMay 03 20:10
qu1j0t3he needs to be vomited upMay 03 20:10
XFaCEqu1j0t3: they will thoMay 03 20:10
XFaCEqu1j0t3: Hate advertising causes fatigueMay 03 20:10
qu1j0t3i don't see that it does.May 03 20:10
XFaCEqu1j0t3: That's what Dalton did BTWMay 03 20:10
qu1j0t3hate advertising has been used for a long timeMay 03 20:10
XFaCEqu1j0t3: he did pretty much not hate advertisingMay 03 20:10
qu1j0t3harper has always done itMay 03 20:10
qu1j0t3and here we areMay 03 20:11
*qu1j0t3 gets lunchMay 03 20:11
eikonosa late lunch...May 03 20:11
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2589813May 03 20:12
TechrightsSocial@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The Czech Republic and Chechnya are two very different entities" http://www.mzv.cz/washington/en/czech_u_s_relations/news/statement_of_the_ambassador_of_the_czech.html #education #usMay 03 20:12
schestowitz"May 03 20:12
TechrightsSocial-> Title: Statement of the Ambassador of the Czech Republic on the Boston terrorist attack | Embassy of the Czech Republic in Washington, D.C. .::. Size~: 9.13 KBMay 03 20:12
schestowitzAnd it took a statement from the ambassador of the Czech Republic to clear it up?May 03 20:12
schestowitzThat's the kind of insult I just wouldn't respond to. Either that, or the statement would be a hell of a lot more snarky.May 03 20:12
schestowitz"May 03 20:13
qu1j0t3harper can continue to hide what he isMay 03 20:13
qu1j0t3taking over CBC as planned will helpMay 03 20:13
qu1j0t3everything helps thatMay 03 20:13
qu1j0t3he knows that he can stay as long as people don't find out his real natureMay 03 20:14
qu1j0t3secrecy is his whole gameMay 03 20:14
eikonosi'd like to think that canadians are very polite, until they get pissed offMay 03 20:14
MinceRwhy isn't it enough to know his actions?May 03 20:14
eikonosand that they will politely tolerate harper until he does too many stupid things and pisses them offMay 03 20:15
qu1j0t3MinceR: how could they know them?May 03 20:15
MinceRenough of those were out in the openMay 03 20:15
qu1j0t3MinceR: secrecy is his tacticMay 03 20:15
qu1j0t3MinceR: not in mainstream media so muchMay 03 20:15
eikonossecrecy and then lyingMay 03 20:15
qu1j0t3MinceR: and when it does hit media, nobody caresMay 03 20:15
eikonosand then more secrecyMay 03 20:15
MinceRweren't his recent attacks against freedom of speech well publicized?May 03 20:15
eikonosyeahMay 03 20:15
qu1j0t3eikonos: yes. they are inseparable.May 03 20:15
qu1j0t3MinceR: mainstream doesn't care.May 03 20:15
eikonosMinceR: and i think/hope people will be aware and vote appropriatelyMay 03 20:15
qu1j0t3MinceR: the issues are so HUGE that if there was going to be outrage, we'd have seen it.May 03 20:16
MinceR:/May 03 20:16
qu1j0t3MinceR: FIPPA alone should have lost his government.May 03 20:16
qu1j0t3any of them alone should have toppled him.May 03 20:16
qu1j0t3the apathy is staggering.May 03 20:16
qu1j0t3G20 should have toppled him.May 03 20:16
qu1j0t3F35May 03 20:16
qu1j0t3i mean, it's a catalogue of hundreds of lies and fraudsMay 03 20:16
qu1j0t3that's why i have no hopeMay 03 20:16
qu1j0t3if not BY NOW, then when?May 03 20:17
qu1j0t3the pattern is "Canada does not care"May 03 20:17
eikonoshe'd pretty much have to screw another woman, and by the looks of him, that's never going to happenMay 03 20:17
qu1j0t3that wouldn't move the needle.May 03 20:17
qu1j0t3Canadians would be all, "We're permissive. This is so cool. Quebec approves"May 03 20:17
qu1j0t3his ratings woudl go sky highMay 03 20:17
qu1j0t3it would be a chance for them to get all moral-superior over USAMay 03 20:17
eikonoscanadians will go in the direction that makes the least uncomfortableMay 03 20:17
eikonosthey're like nervous birdsMay 03 20:18
eikonosif there's a noise off to the left, they'll all run rightMay 03 20:18
qu1j0t3http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/05/03/bangladesh_tragedy_fallout_not_really_serious_says_finance_minister.htmlMay 03 20:18
TechrightsSocialTitle: Bangladesh tragedy fallout not ‘really serious,’ says finance minister  | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 73.44 KBMay 03 20:18
eikonosan most of them have their heads downMay 03 20:18
eikonosjust like ducksMay 03 20:18
qu1j0t3eikonos: yep and this is working perfectly for HarperMay 03 20:18
qu1j0t3eikonos: Check the photo gallery on that page. These photos are really upsetting. May 03 20:19
qu1j0t3eikonos: yesterday's, too. I was really shaken.May 03 20:19
qu1j0t3these bereaved women (and men) have to live with this for the rest of their livesMay 03 20:20
eikonosi think stupid comments by the minister will actually helpMay 03 20:20
qu1j0t3this is unimaginableMay 03 20:20
qu1j0t3the photos bother me mcuh more than stupid commentsMay 03 20:20
eikonosbecause if people weren't already pissed off, his stupid insensitivity will do itMay 03 20:20
qu1j0t3stupid comments are just expected these daysMay 03 20:20
qu1j0t3http://thestar.blogs.com/worlddaily/2013/05/in-gun-friendly-arizona-its-now-the-law-thou-shalt-not-destroy-guns.htmlMay 03 20:21
TechrightsSocialTitle: In gun-friendly Arizona it's now the law: Thou shalt not destroy guns - The World Daily .::. Size~: 61.99 KBMay 03 20:21
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/330401991371153410 May 03 20:23
TechrightsSocial@peterdaou: China's food safety scares: reports of rat meat as lamb, glow-in-the-dark pork, exploding watermelons & fake eggs http://t.co/rrnK6uwEkdMay 03 20:23
TechrightsSocial-> Title: China arrests 900 in fake meat scandal | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 126.09 KBMay 03 20:23
qu1j0t3http://thestar.blogs.com/worlddaily/2013/04/immigrants-fleeing-spain-worse-exodus-since-1940s.htmlMay 03 20:24
TechrightsSocialTitle: People are fleeing Spain, worse exodus since 1940s - The World Daily .::. Size~: 62.38 KBMay 03 20:24
qu1j0t3ok lunch timeMay 03 20:25
qu1j0t3eikonos: schestowitz you'll like this rant http://plover.net/~bonds/cultofbayes.htmlMay 03 22:14
TechrightsSocialTitle: The Cult of Bayes' Theorem .::. Size~: 38.29 KBMay 03 22:14
eikonosi tried to read itMay 03 22:36
eikonosit's basically a rant about people the author does not like, who also happen to like bayesMay 03 22:36
eikonosi was waiting for the evidence that the theorem should not be applied in specific circumstances because it does not workMay 03 22:36
qu1j0t3so once again you stopped before the good parts :)May 03 22:37
qu1j0t3he wasn't writing about ways it can be applied, but he does make the point that it is in practice much harder to apply correctly than its enthusiasts think.May 03 22:37
qu1j0t3you are allowed to write a column saying "people are using this all over the place in ways that don't work"May 03 22:38
eikonoswell, i estimated the probability, using bayes, that based on what i did read, there would be something worthwhile in the following paragraphes it … well, it didn't look goodMay 03 22:38
qu1j0t3and some of those ways are quite sinister.May 03 22:38
MinceR:>May 03 22:38
qu1j0t3it's analogous to using genetics to justify eugenics.May 03 22:38
qu1j0t3eikonos: well, give up then.May 03 22:38
eikonos;)May 03 22:38
qu1j0t3i think i'll stop giving links to text to anyone younger than meMay 03 22:39
qu1j0t3they don't seem to have the staminaMay 03 22:39
MinceRthat's what she said.May 03 22:39
eikonosLOLMay 03 22:39
qu1j0t3god knows what they woudl do with a bookMay 03 22:39
qu1j0t3of more than 25 pagesMay 03 22:39
eikonosi read the entire Neverending Story!May 03 22:39
MinceRi read Atlas ShruggedMay 03 22:39
qu1j0t3eikonos: was it tail recursive?May 03 22:39
qu1j0t3MinceR: ah, the textual lobotomy!May 03 22:39
qu1j0t3niceMay 03 22:39
MinceR:)May 03 22:39
qu1j0t3MinceR: you may be older than me thoughMay 03 22:40
qu1j0t3i don't think i read atlas shruggedMay 03 22:40
qu1j0t3but i did see "The Fountainhead"May 03 22:40
MinceRi haven't seen that yetMay 03 22:40
eikonosreal rand enthusiasts don't rely on the writings of others -- they write their own story of john galtMay 03 22:42
qu1j0t3eikonos: so you missed the part where LessWrong cult leader says "race doesn't exist" then immediately likens it to "Down's Syndrome impacting life outcomes"May 03 22:42
MinceRlolMay 03 22:42
eikonosrace doesn't … what?May 03 22:42
qu1j0t3well, sorry, racISM doesn't existMay 03 22:43
eikonosqu1j0t3: does the LessWrong guy *have* down's syndrome?May 03 22:43
eikonosyou should askMay 03 22:43
qu1j0t3eikonos: he has the all-too-familiar right wing brain feverMay 03 22:43
eikonosracism doesn't exist because down's syndrome?May 03 22:43
qu1j0t3yes, well.. you expected coherence and all i got is this word salad.May 03 22:43
eikonoshaha.. indeedMay 03 22:44
qu1j0t3the analogy is to down's syndrome.May 03 22:44
qu1j0t3i.e. "You were born that way, what do you expect?"May 03 22:44
qu1j0t3i suppose for this mindset, calling "poor life outcomes" objective has a way of making things like "racism", "feminism" disappear completely.May 03 22:44
qu1j0t3like, you had a "poor life outcome" because of "objective factors"May 03 22:44
qu1j0t3ergo, i can cross you off my list.May 03 22:44
qu1j0t3and he includes race as those factorsMay 03 22:45
qu1j0t3which is kind of wow? How do these nuts get a free pass on that?May 03 22:45
qu1j0t3anyway all this wonder is buried at about 70% down that critiqueMay 03 22:46
MinceRit's so politically correct :>May 03 22:46
qu1j0t3yes, it's perfectly politically objective. he also says politics doesn't exist.May 03 22:46
MinceR:DMay 03 22:46
qu1j0t3or at least, doesn't exist on his siteMay 03 22:46
qu1j0t3man, this is so familiar.May 03 22:46
qu1j0t3thanks CaliforniaMay 03 22:46
MinceRoh, i was hoping for an euphemism about "politics"May 03 22:46
qu1j0t3i am sure we can find oneMay 03 22:47
MinceR:)May 03 22:47
qu1j0t3oh, wow, he *is* a eugenicist.May 03 22:47
*qu1j0t3 collects $5May 03 22:47
*MinceR passes goMay 03 22:47
eikonosi'm not against "objective factors"May 03 22:48
eikonos"parent's wealth and social class" being the most important oneMay 03 22:49
qu1j0t3hahahhahahMay 03 22:49
qu1j0t3quite soMay 03 22:49
qu1j0t3but in this case he is saying, race is related to intelligenceMay 03 22:49
eikonosstick that in bayes and calculate itMay 03 22:49
qu1j0t3and so racism doesn't exist, because it merely acknowledges your objective bad luckMay 03 22:50
eikonoswell, he would think that — he comes from a race of stupid people :PMay 03 22:50
MinceR:>May 03 22:50
qu1j0t3ugly people tooMay 03 22:50
MinceRi think that would be species, not race :>May 03 22:50
qu1j0t3MinceR: +1May 03 22:50
qu1j0t3oh well, at least we're punishing ourselves May 03 22:50
qu1j0t3  "The Singularity Institute is primarily bankrolled by Yudkowsky's billionaire friend Peter Thiel, the hedge fund operator and co-founder of PayPal, who has donated over a million dollars to the Institute throughout its existence [4]. Thiel, who was one of the principal backers of Ron Paul's 2012 presidential campaign, is a staunch libertarian and lifelong activist for right-wing causes. BackMay 03 22:55
qu1j0t3in his undergrad days, he co-founded Stanford University's pro-Reagan rag The Stanford Review, which became notorious for its anti-PC stance and its defences of hate speech. The Stanford experience seems to have marked Thiel with a lasting dislike of PC types and feminists and minorities and other people who tend to remind him what a shit he is.May 03 22:55
eikonoshaMay 03 22:56
MinceRhow can someone be a "staunch libertarian" and a "lifelong activist for right-wing causes" at the same time?May 03 22:56
qu1j0t3  "Here we see a real purpose behind lesswrong.com. Ultimately it doesn't matter that people like Thiel or Kurzweil or Yudkowsky are pushing a crackpot idea like the singularity; what matters is that they are pushing the poisonous ideas that underlie Bayesianism. Thiel and others are funding an organisation that advances an ideological basis for their own predatory behaviour. Lesswrong and itsMay 03 22:57
qu1j0t3sister sites preach a reductive concept of humanity that encourages an indifference to the world's suffering, that sees people as isolated, calculating individuals acting in their self-interest: a concept of humanity that serves and perpetuates the scum at the top. May 03 22:57
qu1j0t3MinceR: i dunno; you could ask him. APparently the free market doesn't sufficiently work, so they have to throw money at things and tilt legislators.May 03 22:57
MinceR:>May 03 22:57
qu1j0t3That law I want isn't going to write itself!May 03 22:58
qu1j0t3http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/05/03/stephen_harpers_legacy_in_government_may_be_nastiness_hbert.htmlMay 03 23:15
TechrightsSocialTitle: Stephen Harper’s legacy in government may be nastiness: Hébert | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 70.02 KBMay 03 23:15
qu1j0t3  "It is not unusual for a government to shed support over the first half of its term. That is when the policy heavy lifting usually gets done. But it is more unusual for a governing party to devote so much energy on making unrelenting nastiness one of its defining features.May 03 23:16
qu1j0t3eikonos: God will provide..... bail. http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/05/03/scarborough_pastor_arrested_for_allegedly_operating_86_million_fraud_ring.htmlMay 03 23:20
TechrightsSocialTitle: Pastor charged after congregation members allegedly bilked out of $8.6 million  | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 65.3 KBMay 03 23:20
qu1j0t3hm, struggling to find a difference between this guy and Wall StMay 03 23:21
eikonos"unrelenting nastiness" strong language, and yet, accurateMay 03 23:21
qu1j0t3it should be stroner.May 03 23:22
qu1j0t3stronger.May 03 23:22
qu1j0t3that's a Canadian locution for "wrecking the country, fouling public discourse, running a corrupt and opaque governmentMay 03 23:23
qu1j0t3'nastiness' yes.May 03 23:23
qu1j0t3https://twitter.com/unionwill/status/330399887357247489 May 03 23:29
TechrightsSocial@unionwill: Why aren't people calling 4 Stephen Harper 2 b fired like Chief Spence was? #idlenomore #cdnpoli #denounceharper http://t.co/dVnCUfnLSBMay 03 23:29
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qu1j0t3check link, eikonos May 03 23:29
eikonosyep.May 03 23:31
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qu1j0t3schestowitz: https://www.quora.com/Nic-Pantucci/Siasto-1/EdTech-vs-EdTech/comment/212981 May 03 23:47
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033710 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttp://identi.ca/notice/100825272 http://identi.ca/notice/100693746
033711 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Jose R Rodriguez (metztli)'s status on Friday, 03-May-13 00:54:22 UTC - Identi.ca: "'Randomly' selected for airport security screening twice this time"…what @schestowitz got for his digital activism & questioning status quo
033711 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Monday, 22-Apr-13 01:17:20 UTC - Identi.ca: REMINDER: Tmw is #CISPA #Internet #Blackout Day. #Protest This Draconian Law! #StopCISPA or Say Goodbye to Your Rights! #FightForLiberty
034214 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eschestowitz: wb
034231 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eschestowitz: what border was that?
040417 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g emanchester
042601 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eflying within the UK?
042603 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewow
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043156 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Friday, 03-May-13 02:24:46 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz No worries. Just wondered if it was related to social advocacy issues/topics. (Traveling soon myself.)
050600 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2556159
050601 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Two Alternatives To Gimp On The Linux Desktop http://penguinpetes.com/b2evo/index.php?title=two_alternatives_to_gimp_on_the_linux_de&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 #gimp #gnu #linux
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050603 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"I've frozen my GIMP installation at 2.26 (i think). I've had trouble with pen support in any later version."
050652 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2504360
050654 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: #Stone #Throwers of #Palestine
050654 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e Photo by vladze@diasp.org: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/thumb_medium_34805d7cfedd2225b49e.jpg
050654 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
050656 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eOh no! Not the poor blond babies!
050657 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ePalestine children:
050659 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eWhere's the source for that cropped picture, btw?
050700 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
050816 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2452608
050817 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: New York Cops will Arrest you for Carrying Condoms http://newscitybuzz.com/new-york-cops-will-arrest-you-for-carrying-condoms/9683 #nypd #policestate ; & #assange hounded for not carrying one
050819 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"i'm pretty sure bloomberg is a satanist but i need more conclusive proof"
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073220 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eschestowitz: needs upvote. https://www.quora.com/Boston-Marathon-Terrorist-Attacks-April-2013/Do-the-Boston-Marathon-Explosions-give-Americans-a-better-idea-of-the-feelings-of-Israelis-regarding-terrorism/answer/Iren%C3%A9-Colthurst
073221 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Irené Colthurst's answer to Boston Marathon Terrorist Attacks (April 2013): Do the Boston Marathon Explosions give Americans a better idea of the feelings of Israelis regarding terrorism? - Quora .::. Size~: 48.49 KB
080042 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ethe boston bombings can't even help us understand what it's like to live in the same town as a drone strike
080123 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g edrones are believed to be accurate
080137 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eand theitr targets, inc. bystanders, of low value of negative value
080259 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttp://identi.ca/notice/100827394
080259 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Mikael (inscius)'s status on Friday, 03-May-13 05:55:18 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz They look suspicious. But we can't tell 'em that, unfortunately...
081010 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: of course not.
081034 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: but that's not really the point
081052 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: the point is that it's the wrong question, and she says this
081158 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: by forcing people to join dots she got collapsed on Quora, which is what happens to iconoclasts there :)
090833 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> Hi, Roy,
090834 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e>
090836 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> Welcome back. I hope you had a good vacation.
090837 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThanks, it was nice. Now I need to catch up. I'll read all the links below, but this will take time...
091053 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> I've spent the last few days editing several chapters in my wikibook on
091054 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e> OpenSSH. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH
091055 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: OpenSSH - Wikibooks, open books for an open world .::. Size~: 30.69 KB
091056 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eCool :-)
101435 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
101437 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eA little anti-GPL disinformation in the summary, but no details of what
101439 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ethey actually are going to provide. A weasel word 'including' is included:
101440 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/finnish-education-board-funds-open-source-cloud-services-schools
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101444 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Finnish education board funds open source cloud services for schools | Joinup .::. Size~: 32.48 KB
124823 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2589026
124823 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Asked why they harass me at borders, security (harassment) personnel refused to give me an answer. I did not *look* suspicious.
125239 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"What borders? They're there for defense and to enforce tariffs. A lot of it is just sloppy police work resulting on crap they're getting from above. They make it disadvantageous for the officers to respect your rights in few circumstances where there is a problem. Thus the officers get lazy and muscle you initially so you don't try to retain your rights. It's also a compartmentalized "us vs them" mentality. By all means
125241 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g euphold your rights, but also feel sorry for the cops who live this everyday. You could, and most likely are, on some of their many lists too. Take it as a complement, and try to be nice to the ones who don't really want to harass you."
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165236 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eJust to let you know, BT has been a massive disaster since January this year, with serious issues that led to about 10 hours of calls and two visits. It seems like a hardware issue. Today the OpenReach people came and fixed a faceplate on the other socket, the one near the sofa (there are two now), which hopefully will resolve this massive fiasco. At the end of the day there is more stuff and sockets available now which - if
165238 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eanything - adds value to the place.
170037 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e"The two-year-old government has cut scientific research, muzzled its scientists, put limits on the independence of Statistics Canada and is facing charges that it plans to wield more influence over the CBC.
170040 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eHarper has abdicated the federal role in setting national health care policy in this country, a radical break from convention in which the federal government provided the cash and left the delivery to the provinces.
170042 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eIn fact, Harper has essentially ended group consultations with premiers in any form, meeting them one-on-one and eschewing the grand federal-provincial conferences of yore.
170043 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eQuietly, this government has also reshaped the Employment Insurance program, pushing the unemployed to uproot and accept jobs at less pay, a move that has faced stiff criticism in Atlantic Canada, if a more muted response elsewhere.
170241 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g efuck harper
170321 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g ebut use a condom
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183718 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei asked the rusty iron pole, and it's not too worried about the condom
183806 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eseriously though, hopefully moderate canadians who might have voted harper in the past can see that he's a complete disaster and will vote for someone else the next time around
183829 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eand hopefully our prehistoric voting system doesn't split the left vote down the middle and let the cons walk away with more seats
183848 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ethat faulty system needs to be fixed
184200 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei'm not optimistic
184341 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ewell, we had figured that out already :P
200242 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g erusty iron pole ftw
200303 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g edidn't they vote for harper several times in a row already?
200529 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eyes, but i think this is the first time he's had a majority
200940 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eright, and right.
200946 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g esee also, "no optimism".
201013 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethat was even _before_ he could secretly buy propaganda
201021 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewe know some of his tactics, though
201032 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eagain, involving secrecy. it's what he does.
205932 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g etoday near my house I saw a huge banner advertising daily flights from Manchester to .sg, but checking online I can only find indirect flights (I tried on the Sing. Airlines site). Something seems odd here; I'm sure there used to be direct flights...
210126 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttp://identi.ca/notice/100834092
210129 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@Evan Prodromou (evan)'s status on Friday, 03-May-13 17:54:52 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz weapons of mass instruction, as the old saw goes.
210215 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/330394214405914625 schestowitz eikonos
210216 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@kgosztola: No press freedom for those who aggressively report on America's dirty wars http://t.co/5oFDruH56X #WPFD
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210739 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: Read somehwere that Trudeau is leading in the polls
210808 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: You mentioned outrage fatigue before, I bet Canadians are past beyond suffering Harper fatigue
210912 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eXFaCE: i don't believe it will translate into action.
210919 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ethat's what i'm worried about
210927 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eXFaCE: however, the ouster of Liberals/Paul Martin MAY be a counterexample
210934 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ewe need some kind of action plan, economic or otherwise
210937 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ebut i see no sign at all
210945 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethat the sleeping public is going to reject harper
210959 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei wish i did
211013 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehe needs to be vomited up
211020 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: they will tho
211027 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: Hate advertising causes fatigue
211036 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei don't see that it does.
211036 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: That's what Dalton did BTW
211041 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehate advertising has been used for a long time
211047 8/<g:/ 9/XFaCEg8/>g equ1j0t3: he did pretty much not hate advertising
211055 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eharper has always done it
211105 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eand here we are
211135 =/ * qu1j0t3g gets lunch
211151 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ea late lunch...
211250 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g ehttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/2589813
211251 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "The Czech Republic and Chechnya are two very different entities" http://www.mzv.cz/washington/en/czech_u_s_relations/news/statement_of_the_ambassador_of_the_czech.html #education #us
211253 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
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211254 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eAnd it took a statement from the ambassador of the Czech Republic to clear it up?
211256 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g eThat's the kind of insult I just wouldn't respond to. Either that, or the statement would be a hell of a lot more snarky.
211257 8/<g:/ 9/schestowitzg8/>g e"
211342 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eharper can continue to hide what he is
211349 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g etaking over CBC as planned will help
211352 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeverything helps that
211402 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehe knows that he can stay as long as people don't find out his real nature
211412 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g esecrecy is his whole game
211441 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei'd like to think that canadians are very polite, until they get pissed off
211455 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g ewhy isn't it enough to know his actions?
211459 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eand that they will politely tolerate harper until he does too many stupid things and pisses them off
211503 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: how could they know them?
211504 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g eenough of those were out in the open
211508 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: secrecy is his tactic
211517 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: not in mainstream media so much
211520 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g esecrecy and then lying
211523 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: and when it does hit media, nobody cares
211525 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eand then more secrecy
211527 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g eweren't his recent attacks against freedom of speech well publicized?
211531 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eyeah
211531 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: yes. they are inseparable.
211539 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: mainstream doesn't care.
211552 8/<g:/ </eikonosg8/>g eMinceR: and i think/hope people will be aware and vote appropriately
211604 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: the issues are so HUGE that if there was going to be outrage, we'd have seen it.
211612 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g e:/
211614 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: FIPPA alone should have lost his government.
211621 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eany of them alone should have toppled him.
211628 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethe apathy is staggering.
211631 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eG20 should have toppled him.
211641 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eF35
211650 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei mean, it's a catalogue of hundreds of lies and frauds
211657 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethat's why i have no hope
211702 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eif not BY NOW, then when?
211711 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethe pattern is "Canada does not care"
211717 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ehe'd pretty much have to screw another woman, and by the looks of him, that's never going to happen
211727 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethat wouldn't move the needle.
211738 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eCanadians would be all, "We're permissive. This is so cool. Quebec approves"
211742 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehis ratings woudl go sky high
211751 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eit would be a chance for them to get all moral-superior over USA
211754 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ecanadians will go in the direction that makes the least uncomfortable
211803 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ethey're like nervous birds
211813 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eif there's a noise off to the left, they'll all run right
211826 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehttp://www.thestar.com/news/world/2013/05/03/bangladesh_tragedy_fallout_not_really_serious_says_finance_minister.html
211827 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: Bangladesh tragedy fallout not ‘really serious,’ says finance minister | Toronto Star .::. Size~: 73.44 KB
211830 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ean most of them have their heads down
211835 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ejust like ducks
211836 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: yep and this is working perfectly for Harper
211920 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: Check the photo gallery on that page. These photos are really upsetting.
211943 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: yesterday's, too. I was really shaken.
212007 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethese bereaved women (and men) have to live with this for the rest of their lives
212019 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei think stupid comments by the minister will actually help
212020 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethis is unimaginable
212032 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethe photos bother me mcuh more than stupid comments
212035 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ebecause if people weren't already pissed off, his stupid insensitivity will do it
212037 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g estupid comments are just expected these days
212120 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehttp://thestar.blogs.com/worlddaily/2013/05/in-gun-friendly-arizona-its-now-the-law-thou-shalt-not-destroy-guns.html
212120 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: In gun-friendly Arizona it's now the law: Thou shalt not destroy guns - The World Daily .::. Size~: 61.99 KB
212300 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehttps://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/330401991371153410
212300 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e@peterdaou: China's food safety scares: reports of rat meat as lamb, glow-in-the-dark pork, exploding watermelons & fake eggs http://t.co/rrnK6uwEkd
212303 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g e-> Title: China arrests 900 in fake meat scandal | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 126.09 KB
212420 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehttp://thestar.blogs.com/worlddaily/2013/04/immigrants-fleeing-spain-worse-exodus-since-1940s.html
212420 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: People are fleeing Spain, worse exodus since 1940s - The World Daily .::. Size~: 62.38 KB
212500 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eok lunch time
231451 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: schestowitz you'll like this rant http://plover.net/~bonds/cultofbayes.html
231454 8/<g:/ 9/TechrightsSocialg8/>g eTitle: The Cult of Bayes' Theorem .::. Size~: 38.29 KB
233559 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei tried to read it
233613 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eit's basically a rant about people the author does not like, who also happen to like bayes
233637 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei was waiting for the evidence that the theorem should not be applied in specific circumstances because it does not work
233710 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eso once again you stopped before the good parts :)
233751 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehe wasn't writing about ways it can be applied, but he does make the point that it is in practice much harder to apply correctly than its enthusiasts think.
233808 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eyou are allowed to write a column saying "people are using this all over the place in ways that don't work"
233817 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ewell, i estimated the probability, using bayes, that based on what i did read, there would be something worthwhile in the following paragraphes it … well, it didn't look good
233820 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eand some of those ways are quite sinister.
233827 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g e:>
233830 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eit's analogous to using genetics to justify eugenics.
233847 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: well, give up then.
233850 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g e;)
233901 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei think i'll stop giving links to text to anyone younger than me
233904 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethey don't seem to have the stamina
233913 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g ethat's what she said.
233916 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eLOL
233918 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g egod knows what they woudl do with a book
233922 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eof more than 25 pages
233926 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei read the entire Neverending Story!
233936 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g ei read Atlas Shrugged
233936 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: was it tail recursive?
233947 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: ah, the textual lobotomy!
233950 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g enice
233951 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g e:)
234004 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: you may be older than me though
234022 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei don't think i read atlas shrugged
234026 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ebut i did see "The Fountainhead"
234033 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g ei haven't seen that yet
234159 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ereal rand enthusiasts don't rely on the writings of others -- they write their own story of john galt
234200 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: so you missed the part where LessWrong cult leader says "race doesn't exist" then immediately likens it to "Down's Syndrome impacting life outcomes"
234207 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g elol
234236 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g erace doesn't … what?
234300 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewell, sorry, racISM doesn't exist
234300 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g equ1j0t3: does the LessWrong guy *have* down's syndrome?
234310 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eyou should ask
234320 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eeikonos: he has the all-too-familiar right wing brain fever
234336 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eracism doesn't exist because down's syndrome?
234351 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eyes, well.. you expected coherence and all i got is this word salad.
234400 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ehaha.. indeed
234402 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethe analogy is to down's syndrome.
234411 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei.e. "You were born that way, what do you expect?"
234431 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei suppose for this mindset, calling "poor life outcomes" objective has a way of making things like "racism", "feminism" disappear completely.
234446 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g elike, you had a "poor life outcome" because of "objective factors"
234452 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eergo, i can cross you off my list.
234457 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eand he includes race as those factors
234509 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ewhich is kind of wow? How do these nuts get a free pass on that?
234557 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eanyway all this wonder is buried at about 70% down that critique
234605 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g eit's so politically correct :>
234621 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eyes, it's perfectly politically objective. he also says politics doesn't exist.
234630 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g e:D
234636 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eor at least, doesn't exist on his site
234651 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eman, this is so familiar.
234654 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ethanks California
234654 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g eoh, i was hoping for an euphemism about "politics"
234704 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ei am sure we can find one
234710 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g e:)
234717 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eoh, wow, he *is* a eugenicist.
234720 =/ * qu1j0t3g collects $5
234730 =/ * MinceRg passes go
234852 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ei'm not against "objective factors"
234918 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g e"parent's wealth and social class" being the most important one
234924 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ehahahhahah
234929 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g equite so
234945 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ebut in this case he is saying, race is related to intelligence
234950 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g estick that in bayes and calculate it
234958 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eand so racism doesn't exist, because it merely acknowledges your objective bad luck
235014 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g ewell, he would think that — he comes from a race of stupid people :P
235019 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g e:>
235024 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eugly people too
235027 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g ei think that would be species, not race :>
235032 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: +1
235041 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eoh well, at least we're punishing ourselves
235542 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e "The Singularity Institute is primarily bankrolled by Yudkowsky's billionaire friend Peter Thiel, the hedge fund operator and co-founder of PayPal, who has donated over a million dollars to the Institute throughout its existence [4]. Thiel, who was one of the principal backers of Ron Paul's 2012 presidential campaign, is a staunch libertarian and lifelong activist for right-wing causes. Back
235545 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g ein his undergrad days, he co-founded Stanford University's pro-Reagan rag The Stanford Review, which became notorious for its anti-PC stance and its defences of hate speech. The Stanford experience seems to have marked Thiel with a lasting dislike of PC types and feminists and minorities and other people who tend to remind him what a shit he is.
235625 8/<g:/ 9/eikonosg8/>g eha
235642 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g ehow can someone be a "staunch libertarian" and a "lifelong activist for right-wing causes" at the same time?
235708 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g e "Here we see a real purpose behind lesswrong.com. Ultimately it doesn't matter that people like Thiel or Kurzweil or Yudkowsky are pushing a crackpot idea like the singularity; what matters is that they are pushing the poisonous ideas that underlie Bayesianism. Thiel and others are funding an organisation that advances an ideological basis for their own predatory behaviour. Lesswrong and its
235709 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g esister sites preach a reductive concept of humanity that encourages an indifference to the world's suffering, that sees people as isolated, calculating individuals acting in their self-interest: a concept of humanity that serves and perpetuates the scum at the top.
235737 8/<g:/ </qu1j0t3g8/>g eMinceR: i dunno; you could ask him. APparently the free market doesn't sufficiently work, so they have to throw money at things and tilt legislators.
235742 8/<g:/@=/MinceRg8/>g e:>
235808 8/<g:/ 9/qu1j0t3g8/>g eThat law I want isn't going to write itself!
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