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| eikonos | ideas can't be stolen if you never tell anyone | Jun 11 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | if you do tell, they get copied | Jun 11 00:10 |
| schestowitz | which is not necessarily bad, it's called teaching usually. | Jun 11 00:10 |
| eikonos | right | Jun 11 00:12 |
| schestowitz | there's a lot of hype about "success" through "ideas" you don't get "Stolen" | Jun 11 00:20 |
| schestowitz | The Edisonism | Jun 11 00:20 |
| schestowitz | In reality, sharing can do you good | Jun 11 00:20 |
| schestowitz | like Tim B-L, RMS, and so on | Jun 11 00:20 |
| eikonos | right | Jun 11 00:22 |
| eikonos | really, the problem is that some people want to charge rent on their ideas | Jun 11 00:23 |
| eikonos | but you can't actually rent ideas | Jun 11 00:23 |
| eikonos | really, that's the key difference between open source and commercial | Jun 11 00:24 |
| eikonos | should be 'open source' versus 'for rent' | Jun 11 00:24 |
| eikonos | now do you want to rent or own? | Jun 11 00:25 |
| eikonos | seems like there must be a better way to say 'for rent' though. ideas? | Jun 11 00:28 |
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| s-793 | @anivar India’s IT Min of State Milind Deora’s Thinks The #CMS | Jun 11 04:59 |
| s-793 | (India’s #PRISM) Is “A Good Tool” http://t.co/aMT0RP0BZg | Jun 11 04:59 |
| s-793 | #privacy #india | Jun 11 04:59 |
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| s-793 | @slashdot UK Police Now Double As CCTV Cameras http://t.co/rXEvJK3g0t | Jun 11 05:03 |
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| s-793 | @doctorow Photo: yourland: Disneyland News Stand Souvenirs, 1957 | Jun 11 05:17 |
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| s-793 | @doctorow Photo: Mirror ghosts http://t.co/eCPSUzQp3Z | Jun 11 05:18 |
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| s-793 | @doctorow Photo: rococo-girls-shrine: Peles Castle, Romania (A typical | Jun 11 05:20 |
| s-793 | ‘Haunted Mansion’ staircase to my mind…) | Jun 11 05:20 |
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| s-793 | @doctorow Photo: cosplayingwhileblack: X Character: Brainiac Series: | Jun 11 05:20 |
| s-793 | DC Comics http://t.co/48J0DACKU7 | Jun 11 05:20 |
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| s-793 | @techdirt Jonathan Monsarrat Drops Ridiculous Lawsuit Against Online | Jun 11 06:43 |
| s-793 | Commenters http://t.co/2TNQTgqyFb | Jun 11 06:43 |
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| s-793 | @hintjens Major vote last Friday against software patents in German | Jun 11 07:47 |
| s-793 | retweeted by parliament: http://t.co/i8UxNhOq6U | Jun 11 07:47 |
| s-793 | @zoobab | Jun 11 07:47 |
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| s-793 | @KevinBankston Love this pic of the 1990 storming of Stasi HQ in East | Jun 11 07:48 |
| s-793 | retweeted by Berlin. Just plain folks. Mostly middle-aged. Smiling. Free. | Jun 11 07:48 |
| s-793 | @davidgerard http://t.co/ApF6ncFHK9 | Jun 11 07:48 |
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| s-793 | @BiIIMurray It's almost crazy to think that before twitter, all of this | Jun 11 07:49 |
| s-793 | retweeted by nonsense stayed in people's heads. | Jun 11 07:49 |
| s-793 | @davidgerard | Jun 11 07:49 |
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| s-793 | @Falkvinge Government-collected private data will ALWAYS be used | Jun 11 07:52 |
| s-793 | retweeted by against the citizens, with mathematical certainty - | Jun 11 07:52 |
| s-793 | @davidgerard http://t.co/ORk07MVd9u #nsa #prism | Jun 11 07:52 |
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| s-793 | @davidgerard .@JackofKent you inexplicably neglected to discuss Snowden's | Jun 11 08:00 |
| s-793 | tastes in porn. | Jun 11 08:00 |
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| s-793 | @guy_herbert The bigger picture: Guy Herbert: Unless there's a space | Jun 11 08:01 |
| s-793 | retweeted by where the state can't reach, there's no start to liberty | Jun 11 08:01 |
| s-793 | @davidgerard http://t.co/YURVYkg8qi | Jun 11 08:01 |
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| TechrightsSocial | Title: Guy Herbert: Unless there's a space where the state can't reach, there's no start to liberty | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 114.64 KB | Jun 11 08:01 |
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| s-793 | @slashdot Sharing HBO Go Accounts Could Result In Prison | Jun 11 08:06 |
| s-793 | http://t.co/LCBujGjg8t | Jun 11 08:06 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2706496 | Jun 11 08:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If your bank is complicit in US spying on you with #cispa #nsa #swift #prism (see January reports), how is that *not* a violation? | Jun 11 08:18 |
| schestowitz | 'Join a credit union, if you haven't already" | Jun 11 08:18 |
| schestowitz | [03:16] <tessier_> Just increased the size of the logical volumes to match what was on the old server. Still have another 30G free to put wherever we need it. | Jun 11 08:20 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, I have used LVM to increase them to match what was on the old | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | > server. We still have another 33G to grow into. | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, is the best way, as I did it last night (setting up all the | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | stuff outside /home and the DB), to pass all the files through my | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | desktop to the gateway, then o the target machine? Maybe SSH | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | forwarding? Can the data perhaps be copied as is (/home/boycottn/ and | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | the DB) as is with user permissions without the datacentre to avoid | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | the slow transfer rate (took me around 3 hours to pass 600 MB last | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | night)? I can stay out of /home/boycottn/ (files except cache | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | unchanged) and add nothing to the DB unless someone posts a comment | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | (can merge afterwards). | Jun 11 08:25 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for everything! | Jun 11 08:25 |
| s-793 | @schestowitz Just having a lovely evening at home, reading about the | Jun 11 08:29 |
| s-793 | #NSA, and vise versa. You? | Jun 11 08:29 |
| s-793 | Jun 11 08:29 | |
| s-793 | #liberty | Jun 11 08:29 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz " | Jun 11 08:30 |
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| s-793 | "Just having a lovely evening at home, reading about the | Jun 11 08:30 |
| s-793 | #NSA, and vice versa. You?" -Harry Haller | Jun 11 08:30 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz "Just having a lovely evening at home, reading about the | Jun 11 08:30 |
| s-793 | #NSA, and vice versa. You?" -Harry Haller | Jun 11 08:30 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz Exposing higher-up illegalities http://t.co/ir6UW0U3Sb | Jun 11 08:31 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz Phone tapping http://t.co/DmxUnU7Ngf | Jun 11 08:32 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz Opt out of #PRISM, the #NSA’s global data surveillance | Jun 11 08:32 |
| s-793 | program. Stop reporting your online activities to the | Jun 11 08:32 |
| s-793 | American http://t.co/pha9UeIHms | Jun 11 08:32 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz #greenwald on corporate media http://t.co/n6D9AFxUdJ | Jun 11 08:35 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz How #facebook works http://t.co/7aGFAHiB6S | Jun 11 08:36 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz Atlantic Ocean http://t.co/lTHvyLxD3o | Jun 11 08:38 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz Colourful corals http://t.co/8NAZrlO38C | Jun 11 08:42 |
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| s-793 | @schestowitz "Freedom" from now on http://t.co/Zq3ohjJFrk | Jun 11 08:42 |
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| schestowitz | > Yes, unfortunate. I haven't been able to find out who this so called | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > radio announcer is, which seems totally fabricated. | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, are you undergoing denial of service attacks? I have been trying | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > to reach techrights.org and got mostly 503 service unavailable error | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > messages, which is odd. | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Recently we've had suspicion hangups that we can't quite explain. These paralyse Varnish and httpd. We'll be upgrading to a new server shortly, hoping this would resolve the issue. | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Out of curiosity, I did a net search on "Linux" combined with "sucks" | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > and vulgar flatfish-like terms. There is considerable FUD against | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Linux outside COLA, to include false assessments by unknown bloggers | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > that it has memory and stability problems that was characteristic of | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > Windows. | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > It seems that Microsoft purchased other search engine companies to | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > build Bing into a Microsoft promoting monopoly maintainer and to | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | > attack Google. | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft also bankrolled PR to badmouth its opposition. It's not like Microsoft execs would ever be put in prison for their crimes, just look at NSA/PRISM and what they can get away with... | Jun 11 10:25 |
| schestowitz | Sorry about the short notice on this. Can you please swap the Wednesday and Thursday night shift with me? I was hoping to meet the President of the Open Source Initiate tomorrow in Manchester (he expects this), didn't manage to shift the date he's in Manchester. Suffice to say, if you can't swap, I'll do the usual shift, no changes required. :-) | Jun 11 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Cheers, | Jun 11 16:09 |
| schestowitz | Roy | Jun 11 16:09 |
| schestowitz | QUOTE to colleague | Jun 11 16:09 |
| schestowitz | I hope to meet Phipps tomorrow | Jun 11 16:09 |
| schestowitz | ... | Jun 11 16:09 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Jun 11 16:09 |
| eikonos | http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/11/1215173/-Prism-complex | Jun 11 16:30 |
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| eikonos | or, if you prefer, just the interesting bit: http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/35998/lightbox/999.png?1370896590 | Jun 11 16:30 |
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| schestowitz | >> Recently we've had suspicion hangups that we can't quite explain. | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | >> These paralyse Varnish and httpd. We'll be upgrading to a new server | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | >> shortly, hoping this would resolve the issue. | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > If your logs show otherwise, it could very well be a hardware problem. | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > That's what I enjoy about Linux. In the past on dual boot systems, | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Linux would help verify that I indeed had problems and would be able | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > to salvage a hard disk that Windows 98 couldn't use or was having | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > errors with; and this was with ext2 no less. Linux would also verify | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > that I was having motherboard issues. | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | >> Microsoft also bankrolled PR to badmouth its opposition. It's not like | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | >> Microsoft execs would ever be put in prison for their crimes, just | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | >> look at NSA/PRISM and what they can get away with... | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Roy, I'm glad that you still stand for the truth and are in the very | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > acts of exposing it. | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Yes, those privacy violations or disrespects for individual rights | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > have me concerned, similar to Obama's "we need you to sacrifice some | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > of your freedoms in the name of the war against terrorism". | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Regarding terrorism, gone are the days when murder was considered | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > murder, no matter whether caused by greed, jealousy or a so-called | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > religious agenda, and a person was judged by the law of the land. All | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > murders are hate crimes, no matter the reason. Citizens were | Jun 11 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > considered upright and not suspects until they violated the law. If a | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > person disagreed, they simply expressed it but were not offended by | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > differences in religious opinion. Upright citizens don't kill people | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > because they have a different religious position. | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > Nowadays, I could be considered committing a hate crime because I gave | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > someone a brochure inviting them to attend a concert at my local | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > church because I committed the crime of "proselytization". What ever | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > happened to civility by just simply stating, "Sorry, but I am not | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > interested"? I think we are headed toward another period of Dark Ages | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > in more than one way, it seems. | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > The US Justice Department giving Microsoft a slap on the wrist in the | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > early 2000's for monopoly maintenance is very telling. By failure to | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > properly discipline Microsoft has allowed the company to continue its | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > monopoly maintenance practices harming innovation, the IT job market, | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > and the increase in others following in their wicked pursuits | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > (campaign against FOSS, software patents, etc.) | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > As stated 1,200 years ago, "Because sentence against an evil work is | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > set in them to do evil." (Ecclesiastes 8:11) | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > Sorry for the rant, I am glad though that Linux is succeeding through | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > Google's Linux distros of Android and Chrome, even though that | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > Microsoft is profiting through non-disclosed software patent | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | > agreements. | Jun 11 16:44 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/IAM_magazine/status/344481138410135552 | Jun 11 17:49 |
| TechrightsSocial | @IAM_magazine: Litigation is definitely a tool we use for #patent licensing - Kodak's Tim Lynch @ #IPBC13 | Jun 11 17:49 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/101267600 | Jun 11 18:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Ed G. (electronaut)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-13 17:23:45 UTC - Identi.ca: @schestowitz I ask as someone who has services hosted outside the US. | Jun 11 18:29 |
| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/101266780 | Jun 11 18:45 |
| TechrightsSocial | @Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jun-13 16:05:42 UTC - Identi.ca: Fedbook http://ur1.ca/ea823 Zuckerberg is lying, the government has direct access to everything | Jun 11 18:45 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/code-name-verax-snowden-in-exchanges-with-post-reporter-made-clear-he-knew-risks/2013/06/09/c9a25b54-d14c-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_story_1.html | Jun 11 19:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Code name ‘Verax’: Snowden, in exchanges with Post reporter, made clear he knew risks - The Washington Post .::. Size~: 203.51 KB | Jun 11 19:11 |
| schestowitz | "I sent him a note on another channel to verify my digital “fingerprint,” a precaution we had been using for some time. Tired, I sent the wrong one. “That is not at all the right fingerprint,” he wrote, preparing to sign off. “You’re getting MITM’d.” He was talking about a “man in the middle” attack, a standard NSA technique to bypass encryption. I hastily corrected my error. " | Jun 11 19:11 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2710306 | Jun 11 19:11 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Scandal Reveals Google is not really like Linux and never was. http://lxle.net/index.php?id=articles&post=nsa-google-not-linux-revealed | Jun 11 19:11 |
| schestowitz | "I quess the difference between open source (convenience) and free software (users' freedom)." | Jun 11 19:11 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2709636 | Jun 11 19:13 |
| TechrightsSocial | @tony@free-haven.org: ## Centralization and Infrastructure of the Internet - Bloomberg Missing the Point [This Bloomberg article](http://www.bloomberg.com/video/centralization-and-infrastructure-of-the-internet-lJve6_8FQ_6MyAtep16ssQ.html "") says that the recent NSA spying scandal should open up opportunities for new web service providers to provide secure means for social communications, etc., that haven't yet been finger-fucked by | Jun 11 19:13 |
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| schestowitz | Bloomberg crap | Jun 11 19:13 |
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| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: tony baldwin | blog » Is it Secret? Is it Safe? .::. Size~: 41.46 KB | Jun 11 19:13 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: farcebork - iViva the Free Web! .::. Size~: 30.44 KB | Jun 11 19:13 |
| schestowitz | they use metadata on calls because voice recognitoon takes a lot of CPU | Jun 11 19:14 |
| schestowitz | and unless you're flag, they're not likely to have an operator sitting on the tapes | Jun 11 19:14 |
| schestowitz | People miss the point that they would have listened to everything -- not just stored -- if they had the capacity | Jun 11 19:15 |
| schestowitz | qu1j0t3: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/06/11/190670954/he-broke-the-nsa-leaks-story-but-just-who-is-glenn-greenwald | Jun 11 19:16 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: He Broke The NSA Leaks Story, But Just Who Is Glenn Greenwald? : The Two-Way : NPR .::. Size~: 45.23 KB | Jun 11 19:16 |
| eikonos | they would have collected odour samples if they had enough jars | Jun 11 19:17 |
| schestowitz | "He began by blogging, and thinks like a litigator. "Greenwald ... came to mainstream journalism , which he started in 2005. Before that he was a lawyer, including working 18 months at the high-powered New York firm Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz, where he represented large corporate clients. 'I approach my journalism as a litigator,' he said. 'People say things, you assume they are lying, and dig for documents to prove it.' | Jun 11 19:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 19:18 |
| schestowitz | "Jay Rosen, journalism professor at New York University journalism professor and tells the AP that Greenwald's clearly stated points of view on issues strengthen his reporting. Rosen notes that Greenwald has been critical of both President Obama, a Democrat, and his Republican predecessor. Some sources turn to writers like Greenwald because of the columnists' commitment to positions — putting "journalists whose professional | Jun 11 19:19 |
| schestowitz | stance is no commitment ... at a disadvantage," Rosen said." | Jun 11 19:19 |
| schestowitz | Lots of ad hominem https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&q=drones+k8ill&oq=drones+k8ill&gs_l=news-cc.3...908.1428.0.1820.12.2.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.1.#hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&sclient=psy-ab&q=greenwald&oq=greenwald&gs_l=serp.3..0.1773.3053.1.3181.9.7.0.2.2.0.169.808.3j4.7.0...0.0...1c.1.16.serp._zmEhiIHt-s&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=a0eab26f994498dd&biw=1760&bih=1031 | Jun 11 19:19 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: drones k8ill - Google Search .::. Size~: 72.01 KB | Jun 11 19:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/215748/greenwald-snowdens-salary-didnt-really-strike-me-as-a-central-part-of-the-story/ | Jun 11 19:20 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Greenwald: Snowden’s salary ‘didn’t really strike me as a central part of the story’ | Poynter. .::. Size~: 39.82 KB | Jun 11 19:20 |
| schestowitz | "The gay American columnist who broke the story revealing U.S. National Security Administration spying methods can’t even live in the country he’s from, according to CNN." | Jun 11 19:21 |
| schestowitz | "Glenn Greenwald currently resides in Brazil, where he moved to be with his husband because the U.S. government does not recognize same-sex marriage. He says this experience has allowed him to view the U.S. government with a more critical eye and informs the stories on which he reports." | Jun 11 19:22 |
| schestowitz | I didnt' even know he was gay, and that oughtn't matter | Jun 11 19:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 19:24 |
| schestowitz | “Snowden, who had a salary at the rate of $122,000, was terminated June 10, 2013 for violations of the firm’s code of ethics and firm policy,” the statement reads. | Jun 11 19:24 |
| schestowitz | The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald reported Snowden “has had ‘a very comfortable life’ that included a salary of roughly $200,000.” Reached by email, Greenwald called the statement “very strangely worded,” noting that it used the word “rate.” | Jun 11 19:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Mayeb he didn't work full time | Jun 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | pro-rata it would have been more | Jun 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Seems like one of the new ad himinem articles vs the publisher | Jun 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | Ah | Jun 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | "“I didn’t see paystubs – his salary didn’t really strike me as a central part of the story, to put that mildly,” Greenwald writes. “It’s possible Booz Allen is using a pro-rated figure, or it’s possible Snowden talked about his salary at his prior NSA job at Dell.”" | Jun 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | yes, so that's IT | Jun 11 19:25 |
| schestowitz | http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/215748/greenwald-snowdens-salary-didnt-really-strike-me-as-a-central-part-of-the-story/+ | Jun 11 19:27 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Not Found | Poynter. .::. Size~: 48.76 KB | Jun 11 19:27 |
| schestowitz | "So does any of this ding Greenwald’s story? Back when I was an editor, I’d have gotten very nervous if it looked like a source lied about anything, on the principle that people who lie about small things eventually lie about big things as well. But the U.S. government said in a statement Saturday that “the surveillance activities published in The Guardian and The Washington Post are lawful and conducted under | Jun 11 19:27 |
| schestowitz | authorities widely known and discussed,” which sure sounds like confirmation of Snowden’s revelations, even if there’s still some question about exactly whose information the PRISM program is sucking up. + | Jun 11 19:27 |
| schestowitz | ABC http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/06/guardian-reporter-glenn-greenwald-blasts-calls-for-leak-prosecutions/ | Jun 11 19:30 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Guardian Reporter Glenn Greenwald Blasts Calls for Leak Prosecutions - ABC News .::. Size~: 42.99 KB | Jun 11 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Non-brainer question: | Jun 11 19:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.mediaite.com/tv/odonnell-to-glenn-greenwald-if-the-nsa-knows-everything-why-didnt-they-know-you-were-talking-to-snowden/ | Jun 11 19:31 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: O’Donnell To Greenwald: If NSA Knows Everything, Why Didn’t They Know You Were Talking To Snowden? | Mediaite .::. Size~: 78.74 KB | Jun 11 19:31 |
| schestowitz | They used encryption, that's why | Jun 11 19:31 |
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| eikonos | If the leak is irrelevant because Greenwald is a gay blogger for a foreign news outlet, then I don't have to pay my bills because the mailman is a jerk. | Jun 11 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I like this quote | Jun 11 19:40 |
| eikonos | which? | Jun 11 19:40 |
| schestowitz | youts | Jun 11 19:42 |
| schestowitz | later | Jun 11 19:42 |
| schestowitz | I didn't realiise he started blogging only as little as 8 years ago | Jun 11 19:49 |
| schestowitz | after he had befriended assange and got a spot in a news site he did appeal to some to-be leakers | Jun 11 19:49 |
| eikonos | he's also fairly consistent in his principles | Jun 11 19:50 |
| eikonos | whereas david brooks changes his mind about his favourite colour every 5 minutes | Jun 11 19:50 |
| eikonos | greenwald complained about the same actions under bush and obama; a lot of other commentators have been blinded by the political parties | Jun 11 19:51 |
| eikonos | if we took the political party labels off, a lot of people would be very confused | Jun 11 19:51 |
| eikonos | http://twitter.com/eikonos/status/344527932447924224 | Jun 11 19:54 |
| TechrightsSocial | @eikonos: In recent blindfolded taste tests, 9 out of 10 people couldn't tell the difference between Republican cola and Democrat cola. | Jun 11 19:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2710306 | Jun 11 20:25 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: NSA Scandal Reveals Google is not really like Linux and never was. http://lxle.net/index.php?id=articles&post=nsa-google-not-linux-revealed | Jun 11 20:25 |
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| schestowitz | "Equating Google and Microsoft is grossly unfair and wrong. Google is a victim of state coercion. Microsoft is a gleeful proponent of it. The problem with bad laws, like the USA Patriot Act is that it makes honest people into liars and provides cover for dishonest people who want to treat you like a "one night stand" in any case." | Jun 11 20:25 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2710179 | Jun 11 21:01 |
| schestowitz | "I agree but don't mind that joindiaspora is hosted on Amazon. It is basically a test network as distribution packages are prepared. We will soon migrate to our own servers." | Jun 11 21:01 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: If your image hosting is on Amazon (hi, JoinDiaspora, wink wink), then you are probably failing a basic step in assuring #privacy | Jun 11 21:02 |
| schestowitz | "People can also invite their friends to migrate to Diaspora and Frindica. ;-}" | Jun 11 21:02 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/344433944789405697 | Jun 11 21:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | @fcassia: RT @bloombergnews #NSA leaker shy, computer-bound son of "government family" http://t.co/dZ4R5IqEzh // Shoot the messenger cc/@schestowitz | Jun 11 21:18 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: NSA Leaker Was Shy, Computer-Bound Teenager in Maryland - Bloomberg .::. Size~: 157.04 KB | Jun 11 21:18 |
| eikonos | if they're a government family, does that mean everyone calls the dad president? | Jun 11 21:19 |
| eikonos | is he elected? | Jun 11 21:19 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2703908 | Jun 11 21:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #EdwardSnowden has blown the whistle on this presidency. You have to wonder: Will Obama see out his full term? http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100220938/edward-snowden-has-blown-the-whistle-on-this-presidency-you-have-to-wonder-will-obama-see-out-his-full-term/ | Jun 11 21:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | -> Title: Edward Snowden has blown the whistle on this presidency. You have to wonder: Will Obama see out his full term? – Telegraph Blogs .::. Size~: 56.79 KB | Jun 11 21:44 |
| schestowitz | "@Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) Sorry that translates as 'password' in my A6 internet book. I think I will stay on the couch this weekend. { }" | Jun 11 21:44 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2707697 | Jun 11 22:53 |
| schestowitz | "@Will posted this same thread, not your other" | Jun 11 22:53 |
| TechrightsSocial | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: Duckduckgo is hosted on Amazon. How can anyone claim privacy when they are hosted on machines owned by a patent abuser? | Jun 11 22:54 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2707697 | Jun 11 23:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: Duckduckgo is hosted on Amazon. How can anyone claim privacy when they are hosted on machines owned by a patent abuser? | Jun 11 23:14 |
| schestowitz | "Ah yes, thanks. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2706897#" | Jun 11 23:14 |
| TechrightsSocial | @willhill@joindiaspora.com: ### DuckDuckNoNo Many people have been recommending Duckduckgo recently as a replacement for Google, but I don't think that's a good idea. As we can see in the video below, Duckduckgo passes on bogus results from Bing and Microsoft. Duckduckgo is also located in the US and is bound by the same bad laws that Google is. Duckduckgo, apparently, has used the NSA spying scandal to promote themselves. htt | Jun 11 23:14 |
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| schestowitz | Kapor is behind EFF? Didn't know | Jun 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Frontier_Foundation | Jun 11 23:20 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Electronic Frontier Foundation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 104.17 KB | Jun 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | They're 23 yars old now | Jun 11 23:20 |
| schestowitz | ACLU formation "Formation 1920" | Jun 11 23:21 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aclu | Jun 11 23:21 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: American Civil Liberties Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 359.18 KB | Jun 11 23:21 |
| schestowitz | "Budget $106M (2011; excludes affiliates)" | Jun 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | "Volunteers 2,000 attorneys" | Jun 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | "Formation 1969 - 1972" | Jun 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenpeace | Jun 11 23:22 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Greenpeace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 285.48 KB | Jun 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Budget €236.9 million (2011)" | Jun 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | "Staff 2,400 (2008)" | Jun 11 23:22 |
| schestowitz | "Former name Don't Make a Wave Committee" | Jun 11 23:24 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Foundation | Jun 11 23:24 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Free Software Foundation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 148.04 KB | Jun 11 23:24 |
| schestowitz | Formation 1985-10-04"" | Jun 11 23:24 |
| schestowitz | "Staff 13" | Jun 11 23:24 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_Freedom_Law_Center | Jun 11 23:25 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Software Freedom Law Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 64.84 KB | Jun 11 23:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | As of May 2012, SFLC's staff included:[18] | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Eben Moglen, Director-Counsel | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Mishi Choudhary, Director of International Programs | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Aaron Williamson, Counsel | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Ian Sullivan, Executive Secretary | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Mark Webbink is a Director | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Former staff | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Richard Fontana, Counsel | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Jim Garrison, Public Relations Coordinator | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Bradley M. Kuhn, Policy Analyst and Technology Director | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Matt Norwood, Counsel | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Daniel B. Ravicher, Legal Director | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Karen M. Sandler, General Counsel | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | James Vasile, Counsel | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Rachel A. Wiener, Office Manager | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Justin C. Colannino,[20][21] Counsel | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:26 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groklaw | Jun 11 23:29 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Groklaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 86.83 KB | Jun 11 23:29 |
| schestowitz | "Pamela Jones and some volunteer helpers moderate Groklaw retrospectively to remove posts containing, for example, inappropriate language, ad hominem attacks, and inflammatory subjects such as politics." | Jun 11 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Or people they don't agree with.. | Jun 11 23:29 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:30 |
| schestowitz | On April 9, 2011, Jones announced that Groklaw would stop publishing new articles on May 16, 2011, its 8th anniversary, as Groklaw had accomplished its original mission of revealing the truth behind the SCO lawsuits.[4] | Jun 11 23:30 |
| schestowitz | On May 16, 2011 Jones reaffirmed her desire to step down from writing daily articles for Groklaw and announced that Groklaw's new editor would be Mark Webbink. [5] | Jun 11 23:30 |
| schestowitz | Subsequent to this decision, new patent and copyright based attacks on the Android operating system led to Jones resuming an editorial role on Groklaw, together with Mark Webbink they jointly moderate and edit the site. | Jun 11 23:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:30 |
| schestowitz | "I made a decision early on to concentrate only on the entities, ideas, and actions, not on individuals." | Jun 11 23:32 |
| schestowitz | She didn't keep that promise | Jun 11 23:32 |
| schestowitz | She writes about people like McBride, Florian etc. | Jun 11 23:32 |
| schestowitz | And gets upset when people say something about her | Jun 11 23:32 |
| schestowitz | "ones and some volunteers retrospectively moderate the comments on Groklaw. While Groklaw articles meticulously follow SCO's litigation activities, they are accompanied by reader-submitted comments that are "overwhelmingly pro-Linux and anti-SCO."" | Jun 11 23:33 |
| schestowitz | "G2 Computer Intelligence, a news publication company owned by O'Gara,[22] appears in bankruptcy filings as a creditor of SCO Operations, a subsidiary of The SCO Group" | Jun 11 23:35 |
| schestowitz | "During the SCO litigation proceedings in court, it was revealed that O'Gara was requested to "send a jab at PJ" by SCO's Blake Stowell and that she demanded "war pay" in her response. The "expose" was published soon after this e-mail exchange. [29] O'Gara was revealed to be "planting" stories fed to her from Microsoft during the "Comes v Microsoft" litigation. " | Jun 11 23:35 |
| schestowitz | Twitter keeps sliding down the loo http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/twitter.com | Jun 11 23:41 |
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| schestowitz | Microsoft now uses FLorian to "|plant" stories | Jun 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20130301161659602&title=Actually%2C+...+%26quot%3Binfo+and+understanding%26quot%3B&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=1033000#c1033008 | Jun 11 23:44 |
| TechrightsSocial | Title: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 20.3 KB | Jun 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Yes!!! Unfortunately, I do not believe that providing "information" and "understanding" is what certain other bloggers are motivated by and if we have to read them (and this is unavoidable because of churnalism), we and others should understand the accuracy, realities and motivation behind their type of "information" and "understanding". This is a different form of 'bias' from Groklaw. | Jun 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | To remind you of arguments about dubious activities, if you haven't visited a more 'activist' FOSS-biased site recently you might want to have a look at: | Jun 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Speak Out: Did Microsoft Florian — Funded Also by Apple — ‘Spam’ You Too? More Funding Appears to Come From Anti-Android/Linux Camp. | Techrights | Jun 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | and the older: | Jun 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | How Microsoft Florian ‘Cooks’ Spin | Techrights | Jun 11 23:44 |
| schestowitz | Astroturfing, aided by it's accomplice - churnalism, is technically against the law in the EU: | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | EU cracks down on fake blogger astroturfing • The Register was the hope! In practice, we need to use test cases and precedent to expose - EU Commission Justice Website - "Unfair commercial practices" under what is, in reality, a general anti-abuse law: | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Unfair commercial practices - Justice | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | (The one thing I must praise the FOSS Patents Blog for, is the amazing output that is sustained in a field that spans two technical fields in which the author has no formal qualifications(?) - as far as I can tell [Wikipedia has hidden the relevance of high school-only qualifications, academic snobbery and all that!]. pj will appreciate this more than me - and be able to comment, though she may not feel that to be wise. He | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | increased from 106 in 2010 to 335 in 2011 to 628 last year using the numbers on the site. As far as I can tell (without looking at them all - search for "guest" did not produce any 'guest articles' like Groklaw occasionally invites - these are all self-attributed - in spite of(?) all his paid consulting and advisory roles! It's almost as though he gets help with some of this extraordinary investigative activity, analysis and | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | text production. Maybe someone could put this stuff through an 'author' algorithm? If it is all down to FM - then 'praise be to quantity over quality'! | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Are you trying to suggest that FM is not really one person but actually a team | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | of Microsoft lawyers? That would be hugely ironic, in the extremely unlikely | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | event that it were true. :-) | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | John Macdonald | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | "Analyzing text to determine authorship has been patented." | Jun 11 23:45 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is ghostwriting his stuff | Jun 11 23:52 |
| schestowitz | he defended IBM when I told him that IBM was trying to co-opt me for PR | Jun 11 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Which means to me that Florian himself is in that sort of business | Jun 11 23:53 |
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