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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/101441101 | Jul 03 08:23 |
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| schestowitz | "@schestowitz Does he use Seeks or YaCy, by the way?" | Jul 03 08:24 |
| schestowitz | Stallman uses GOogle and DDG | Jul 03 08:24 |
| schestowitz | "♻ @schestowitz Ngong road traffic started at karen today. Still no police to be for a while" | Jul 03 08:25 |
| schestowitz | "AFAIK, extremely violent videos _are_ forbidden on YouTube. That's not censorship of police injustice." | Jul 03 08:26 |
| schestowitz | They don't censor Collateral Murder... | Jul 03 08:26 |
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| schestowitz | Pie in the face http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1372832625422396_animate.gif | Jul 03 08:48 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWcjoO6yfVw | Jul 03 09:10 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Versión completa de la entrevista con Evo Morales, presidente de Bolivia - YouTube .::. Size~: 113.81 KB | Jul 03 09:10 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2799559 | Jul 03 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @benfell@disunitedstates.com: ## Snowden’s Worst-Case Scenario: What If No Countries Take Him? http://world.time.com/2013/07/02/snowdens-worst-case-scenario-what-if-no-countries-take-him/ archived at https://parts-unknown.org/content/snowden%E2%80%99s-worst-case-scenario-what-if-no-countries-take-him | Jul 03 09:26 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Snowden’s Worst-Case Scenario: What if No Countries Take Him? | TIME.com .::. Size~: 162.82 KB | Jul 03 09:26 |
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| schestowitz | How kind of "Time" to discuss the dysphoric scenarios... | Jul 03 09:26 |
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| MinceR | geekings | Jul 03 09:44 |
| schestowitz | o hi | Jul 03 10:22 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/stream# | Jul 03 10:30 |
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| schestowitz | Lobby for a negation? | Jul 03 10:30 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2800637 | Jul 03 11:34 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @rainer_blaumeise@pod.geraspora.de: I never go to #USA again for #holiday. A country there's nowadays death penalty is able. And with such #messy, #criminal #government body... who's like surveillence everbody in the #world, and kill own cititzens by #drohnes... USA much worster than STASI Ich fahr nie mehr in die USA in Urlaub - nen land wo es die #Todesstrafe gibt. Und eine solche dreckige, kriminelle Staatsorgane, welche jeden in der Welt | Jul 03 11:34 |
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| schestowitz | "There's a difference between a quite low-quality black-and-white recording and this." | Jul 03 11:49 |
| schestowitz | "Also, I don't find a simple content warning to be "censorship"." | Jul 03 11:50 |
| schestowitz | Google actually deleted many videos. | Jul 03 11:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/RGSpore/status/352338911978192898 | Jul 03 11:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 03 11:52 |
| schestowitz | "#Snowden #Bolivia Stoyaway? Aprntly Dpilot had a parrot on his shoulder, a peg leg, a patch over his eye, + was very drunk." | Jul 03 11:52 |
| schestowitz | and he downloaded something via torrent | Jul 03 11:52 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Prezbyter/status/352339574317522944 | Jul 03 11:53 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 03 11:53 |
| schestowitz | "They returned from their first employment out of school in Iraq & Afghanistan to just the kind of jobs bullies gravitate to." | Jul 03 11:53 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/352350165560070144 | Jul 03 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 03 11:54 |
| schestowitz | "if this is true, something is fishy. https://twitter.com/FMCnl/status/352314140737552384 … -Remember that recording the ATC comms is a hobby for many..." | Jul 03 11:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 03 11:54 |
| schestowitz | France denies allegations against it, but Austria has not | Jul 03 11:55 |
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| schestowitz | Evo Morales disliked and feared for same reason Hugo Chávez is feared. They have parties that represent poorer people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_mkE3Ej854 | Jul 03 13:26 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.wthitv.com/dpp/news/local/new-indiana-laws-aim-to-improve-lives | Jul 03 16:22 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: New Indiana laws aim to improve lives .::. Size~: 46.47 KB | Jul 03 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | 300 new laws. | Jul 03 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | Unless they're all intended to repeal former edicts, I don't see how my life gains a net improvement. | Jul 03 16:23 |
| iophk | 'her company has come to the realization that it's no longer "the leader in our industry' | Jul 03 16:58 |
| iophk | 'http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57592140-94/nokia-to-embrace-challenger-role-in-new-marketing-push/ | Jul 03 16:58 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Nokia to embrace 'challenger' role in new marketing push | Mobile - CNET News .::. Size~: 80.14 KB | Jul 03 16:58 |
| iophk | That's an understatement | Jul 03 16:58 |
| iophk | Unfortunately the article tries some revisionism on the role of M$ in Nokia. Nokia was doing well in phones before Elop killed it. | Jul 03 16:58 |
| iophk | So the "Windows Phone to bolster its standing" is bullshit and ignores the timeline of events. | Jul 03 16:59 |
| iophk | http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia | Jul 03 17:03 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: How Stephen Elop Destroyed Nokia - Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 56.73 KB | Jul 03 17:03 |
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| schestowitz | iophk: garbage from Don Reisinger | Jul 03 17:26 |
| schestowitz | I dented your links | Jul 03 17:26 |
| schestowitz | waiting to replace the bot, there is some transition occurring now in identica and techrights servers | Jul 03 17:26 |
| MinceR | meanwhile in the usa >> http://m.blog.hu/su/subba/postimage/ekozbenamerikaban_1372858593.jpg | Jul 03 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801010 | Jul 03 17:46 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Evo Morales disliked and feared for same reason Hugo Chávez is feared. They have parties that represent poorer people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_mkE3Ej854 | Jul 03 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801691 | Jul 03 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Preserving Information About GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2013/07/03/desktoplinux-and-linuxdevices/ #desktoplinux #linuxdevices #gnu #linux | Jul 03 17:47 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801727 | Jul 03 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: A Message to Bill Gates: “Eliminating Poor People is Not the Same as Eliminating Poverty” http://techrights.org/2013/07/03/bill-gates-monopolises-population-issues/ | Jul 03 17:47 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801756 | Jul 03 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The University of California Misuses Taxpayers’ Money by Using it to Harm Public, Commerce http://techrights.org/2013/07/03/uc-feeding-patent-trolls/ #swpats #uc | Jul 03 17:47 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801774 | Jul 03 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The Man in Charge of Xbox Is Leaving Microsoft http://techrights.org/2013/07/03/don-mattrick-is-out/ #microsoft #xbox #xbox360 | Jul 03 17:47 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801781 | Jul 03 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2012: How Stephen #Elop Destroyed #Nokia http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia shows the danger of #Microsoft moles | Jul 03 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: How Stephen Elop Destroyed Nokia - Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 56.73 KB | Jul 03 17:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801792 | Jul 03 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Mass protests planned over web #NSA spying revelations http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23160309 #bbc gov. press | Jul 03 17:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: BBC News - Mass protests planned over web NSA spying revelations .::. Size~: 78.73 KB | Jul 03 17:47 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801795 | Jul 03 17:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Angela Merkel: NSA snooping claims 'extremely serious' http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/03/angela-merkel-nsa-snooping-serious #nsa #germany #espionage | Jul 03 17:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Angela Merkel: NSA snooping claims 'extremely serious' | World news | guardian.co.uk .::. Size~: 128.65 KB | Jul 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801797 | Jul 03 17:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Oliver Stone on NSA Leaker Edward Snowden: 'I Would Give Him Asylum' http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oliver-stone-nsa-leaker-edward-579763 #snowden #nsa | Jul 03 17:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: Oliver Stone on NSA Leaker Edward Snowden: 'I Would Give Him Asylum' - The Hollywood Reporter .::. Size~: 91.21 KB | Jul 03 17:48 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801798 | Jul 03 17:48 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: France wants to 'temporarily suspend' trade talks with US over NSA spying http://rt.com/news/france-us-delay-trade-603/ #france #nsa #us | Jul 03 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/352466033099030528 | Jul 03 17:54 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 03 17:54 |
| schestowitz | "Mass protests planned over web #NSA spying revelations - http://bbc.in/1aCK8u3 a new #SOPA/#ACTA revolt in the making? (v @schestowitz)" | Jul 03 17:54 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zookkz/status/352468436875612161 | Jul 03 17:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a tweet? | Jul 03 17:55 |
| schestowitz | "there is a major difference between leaving and being asked to step down." | Jul 03 17:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/notice/101447940 | Jul 03 18:20 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/100250759#notice-101447940 | Jul 03 18:20 |
| schestowitz | "@Schestowitz Chavez is dead." | Jul 03 18:20 |
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| DaemonFC | One thing I do like about Indiana law is that when the House or Senate proposes a bill, they have to print the entire resulting bill, not just the changes it makes to current law. | Jul 03 18:28 |
| iophk | http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/03/us-usa-security-snowden-idUSBRE9610C520130703 | Jul 03 18:31 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Snowden still in Moscow despite Bolivian plane drama | Reuters .::. Size~: 100 KB | Jul 03 18:31 |
| iophk | "Bolivia said the incident, in which the plane was denied permission to fly over France and Portugal before making an stop-over in Vienna, was an act of aggression and a violation of international law." | Jul 03 18:31 |
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| schestowitz | France denies it | Jul 03 18:31 |
| schestowitz | I saw that in two articles | Jul 03 18:31 |
| schestowitz | and one report said there was a fuel gauge issue that caused the landing | Jul 03 18:32 |
| iophk | what about Portugal and Spain? | Jul 03 18:32 |
| schestowitz | But why would Bolivia lie about it? | Jul 03 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Someone is lying | Jul 03 18:32 |
| iophk | Yes, that much is clear. | Jul 03 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Psian suppported him | Jul 03 18:32 |
| schestowitz | I think Porgular didn't | Jul 03 18:32 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, they can fly around Europe | Jul 03 18:32 |
| schestowitz | If they knew of such issues... where is the plane now? I dought news about it, foudnd none | Jul 03 18:33 |
| iophk | Snowden could more easily fly to Finland, it's border is a stone's throw from Moscow | Jul 03 18:33 |
| schestowitz | I think I read aboutPortugalPorgular being an issue | Jul 03 18:33 |
| iophk | *its | Jul 03 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Sorry for the typos, eating.. | Jul 03 18:33 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Jul 03 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Finland is near Sweden, a US sockpuppet | Jul 03 18:34 |
| schestowitz | Beter off just leaving from the other side of Russia | Jul 03 18:35 |
| iophk | Many countries are | Jul 03 18:35 |
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| schestowitz | Kamchatka, then southwards away from US West cost and into Bolivia | Jul 03 18:35 |
| schestowitz | That's assuming Snowden is in the plane at all | Jul 03 18:35 |
| schestowitz | From HK you can fly to Russia, maybe potentially through Mongolia, which has weak sovereignty ahway | Jul 03 18:36 |
| schestowitz | It's like a game of [pursuit, where you need to evade the US and its Goons | Jul 03 18:36 |
| schestowitz | US considers it a "threat" when Chinese war vessels trawl around the Chinese sea | Jul 03 18:36 |
| schestowitz | As if it's theirs (the US') | Jul 03 18:37 |
| iophk | It's getting spun out of proporation and distracting from the info being release, such as the espionage on EU nations. | Jul 03 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Let's see whatthey say when Chinese war vessels park near Mexico | Jul 03 18:37 |
| schestowitz | Like the Cuban missile crisis | Jul 03 18:37 |
| schestowitz | some French politicians break talks with US now | Jul 03 18:38 |
| schestowitz | Over this matter of espionage | Jul 03 18:38 |
| schestowitz | This morning I sae spin accusing France of being worse at espionage than the US | Jul 03 18:38 |
| schestowitz | which I doubt | Jul 03 18:38 |
| schestowitz | France also denies blocking the plane's entry into its airspace | Jul 03 18:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/France+denies+blocking+Bolivian+plane+amid+rumours+leaker/8609961/story.html | Jul 03 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Snowden case: Bolivia and Europe at odds over mysterious presidential plane delay .::. Size~: 160.52 KB | Jul 03 18:39 |
| schestowitz | Here is the odd aticle, distraction http://www.carbonated.tv/news/france-top-industrial-espionage-offender-demands-answers-over-nsa-spying | Jul 03 18:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: France, Top Industrial Espionage Offender, Demands Answers Over NSA “Spying” - Carbonated.TV .::. Size~: 71.16 KB | Jul 03 18:39 |
| schestowitz | by "Fatimah " | Jul 03 18:39 |
| schestowitz | "Junior Sub-editor at Carbonated.tv" | Jul 03 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Citing US cables | Jul 03 18:40 |
| schestowitz | " But back in 2011, according to leaked U.S. diplomatic cables, France and not China or Russia, was found to be the country that conducted the most industrial espionage on other European countries. WikiLeaks also revealed that the spying network was so widespread that “damages it caused the German economy were larger as a whole than those caused by China or Russia.”" | Jul 03 18:40 |
| schestowitz | The US says others do worse | Jul 03 18:40 |
| schestowitz | But not talking about its own | Jul 03 18:40 |
| schestowitz | Just as the NYTimes, WSJ etc. accuse only China of 'hacking' | Jul 03 18:41 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&q=drones+k8ill&oq=drones+k8ill&gs_l=news-cc.3...908.1428.0.1820.12.2.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.1.#hl=en&gl=uk&tbm=nws&sclient=psy-ab&q=morales&oq=morales&gs_l=serp.3..0i5l2.2289.2289.2.2417.1.1.0.0.0.0.120.120.0j1.1.0....0...1c.1.19.serp.8dZ4uc3euc4&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=d88621ab40e388&biw=1760&bih=1030 | Jul 03 18:41 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: drones k8ill - Google Search .::. Size~: 65.83 KB | Jul 03 18:41 |
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| schestowitz | " Bolivian politician claimed put Mr Morales' life at risk. " | Jul 03 18:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/10157204/Bolivia-looking-at-legal-options-after-President-Evo-Morales-jet-forced-to-divert.html | Jul 03 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Video: Bolivia looking at legal options after President Evo Morales' jet forced to divert - Telegraph .::. Size~: 60.61 KB | Jul 03 18:42 |
| schestowitz | http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/south-american-states-angered-at-diversion-of-morales-flight-1.1451275 | Jul 03 18:42 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: South American states angered at diversion of Morales flight - World News | Latest International News Headlines | The Irish Times - Wed, Jul 03, 2013 .::. Size~: 117.65 KB | Jul 03 18:42 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 03 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Heads of state in the South American bloc Unasur today strenuously rejected the diversion of Bolivian president Evo Morales’s aircract in Europe due to suspicions it was carrying US whistleblower Edward Snowden. | Jul 03 18:43 |
| schestowitz | The group demanded an explanation for “unfriendly and unjustifiable acts”. | Jul 03 18:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 03 18:43 |
| schestowitz | " In a statement from Peru’s government, which holds the rotating presidency of the group, the leaders expressed their outrage and indignation because Morales’s flight was not permitted to land in Portugal and France yesterday. " | Jul 03 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Maybe it did seek to land | Jul 03 18:43 |
| schestowitz | "Bolivian authorities said they were denied landing space because of unfounded speculation that the former US spy contractor was on board." | Jul 03 18:44 |
| iophk | Load up on tax-free bordeaux ? | Jul 03 18:44 |
| schestowitz | "Low on fuel, the plane carrying Morales home from Moscow was rerouted to Austria last night, in a new twist to the international uproar over Mr Snowden and the widespread US surveillance that he revealed. It took off again from Vienna today. " | Jul 03 18:44 |
| schestowitz | So Austria is the one that actually did the right thing | Jul 03 18:44 |
| schestowitz | and fuel was indeed the cause | Jul 03 18:44 |
| nj3ma | Hey guys | Jul 03 18:45 |
| schestowitz | hi nj3ma | Jul 03 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | hi nj3ma been quite some time | Jul 03 18:45 |
| schestowitz | iophk: it does serve as a distraction | Jul 03 18:45 |
| sebsebseb | quite a while | Jul 03 18:45 |
| schestowitz | "|Bolivian and Austrian officials both say Mr Snowden was not on the plane." | Jul 03 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | nj3ma: eebrah's freind ? | Jul 03 18:46 |
| sebsebseb | I think | Jul 03 18:46 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/2801781 | Jul 03 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: 2012: How Stephen #Elop Destroyed #Nokia http://seekingalpha.com/article/916271-how-stephen-elop-destroyed-nokia shows the danger of #Microsoft moles | Jul 03 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "October of 2012, Seeking" | Jul 03 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | -> Title: How Stephen Elop Destroyed Nokia - Seeking Alpha .::. Size~: 56.73 KB | Jul 03 18:47 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | "October of 2012, Seeking" | Jul 03 18:47 |
| schestowitz | "Use NoScript, then you can read the whole article. ^^ But your other point is right." | Jul 03 18:47 |
| nj3ma | sebsebseb, hey. It is I! :-) | Jul 03 18:48 |
| schestowitz | "Seeking Alpha is crap. October of 2012 and Seeking Alpha does their homework by reading someone else's blog. They only missed the story by two years. Oh look, I have to register to see the rest of the article." | Jul 03 18:48 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2354169/Edward-Snowden-hunt-Bolivian-fury-European-countries-bowing-U-S-aggression-Presidents-plane-forced-land-Vienna-rumors-Edward-Snowden-stowed-board.html | Jul 03 18:50 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Edward Snowden hunt: Bolivian fury at European countries bowing to U.S. 'aggression' after President's plane was forced to land in Vienna over rumors Edward Snowden was stowed on board | Mail Online .::. Size~: 254.62 KB | Jul 03 18:50 |
| schestowitz | contraditory reports | Jul 03 18:50 |
| schestowitz | "Bolivian diplomats say Mr Morales had been returning home from an energy summit in Moscow on Tuesday night when France, Spain and Portugal abruptly refused to allow the plane to fly over their air space cancelled on the grounds that Snowden might be on board." | Jul 03 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: Great organisations going all opensource free software, uhmm right yeah, untill the guy who made that happen, leaves | Jul 03 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: and then they start moving more away from it or whatever hmm | Jul 03 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | ,but not completly | Jul 03 18:51 |
| schestowitz | iophk: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/07/03/article-2354169-1AA2C034000005DC-412_634x332.jpg | Jul 03 18:51 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Not a web page! Aborting image/jpeg type | Jul 03 18:51 |
| schestowitz | Finland: no | Jul 03 18:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 03 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Evo Morales accused Spain of only allowing his plane to land if it is agreed it is inspected | Jul 03 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2354169/Edward-Snowden-hunt-Bolivian-fury-European-countries-bowing-U-S-aggression-Presidents-plane-forced-land-Vienna-rumors-Edward-Snowden-stowed-board.html#ixzz2Y0RYwxlh | Jul 03 18:52 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Edward Snowden hunt: Bolivian fury at European countries bowing to U.S. 'aggression' after President's plane was forced to land in Vienna over rumors Edward Snowden was stowed on board | Mail Online .::. Size~: 246.22 KB | Jul 03 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook | Jul 03 18:52 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 03 18:52 |
| schestowitz | I guess that gives more of the story away | Jul 03 18:52 |
| schestowitz | Protest at their French embassy now | Jul 03 18:53 |
| schestowitz | "Grounded by Snowden suspicions, Morales to fly to Spain" headlines changed to | Jul 03 18:55 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/morales-plane-rerouted-on-snowden-fear/article4876251.ece?mstac=0 | Jul 03 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bolivian President s plane rerouted on Snowden fear - The Hindu .::. Size~: 68.07 KB | Jul 03 18:55 |
| schestowitz | the visit was re energy http://rt.com/business/bolivia-morales-russia-energy-investments-599/ | Jul 03 18:55 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Bolivia awaits Russia’s technology and energy investment – Morales to RT — RT Business .::. Size~: 49.73 KB | Jul 03 18:55 |
| nj3ma | Int'l Laws *Benjamin Netanyahu laughter* Hahahahahahahahahahahaha | Jul 03 19:02 |
| nj3ma | Schestowitz, Yea it has. Been offline, long story. | Jul 03 19:04 |
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| nj3ma | Hi Cirrus_Minor, | Jul 03 19:13 |
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| blob_ | Have you read this? http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nsa-has-total-access-via-microsoft-windows/ | Jul 03 19:17 |
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| blob_ | I wonder if the same is true for windows server/ | Jul 03 19:18 |
| MinceR | why would it not be? | Jul 03 19:18 |
| blob_ | Hmm... Many business and medical use ms server with private info on it and that is concerning to me. | Jul 03 19:20 |
| MinceR | as it should be concerning | Jul 03 19:20 |
| MinceR | and not just because nsa owns them all | Jul 03 19:21 |
| blob_ | I know the US military does not use Skype. they use oovoo. Not sure what that means | Jul 03 19:22 |
| MinceR | haven't heard of that one before | Jul 03 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Heh. Religion and poverty. | Jul 03 19:28 |
| blob_ | Miltitary familes are not allowed to use skype to talked to familes in the service. | Jul 03 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | I remember a Catholic family whose kids were in the same school I was in. | Jul 03 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | They decided to ask their priest if it was OK to use birth control since they couldn't afford more kids. | Jul 03 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | He made a "hardship exception" for them. Apparently, the church allows that sometimes. | Jul 03 19:30 |
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| DaemonFC | They were dirt poor. | Jul 03 19:31 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 03 19:31 |
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| DaemonFC | I was talking about them with my mom a while back. She said that their family (of four) was living on a little under $11,000 a year. | Jul 03 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | That was around 1990. | Jul 03 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Still, damn. | Jul 03 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | They were getting by because of the good graces of their extended family members. | Jul 03 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | Like, their mom had a sister that would give her clothes she was tired of. Their dad had a brother that worked for some food company, and he'd hand them stacks of coupons to go do their grocery shopping with. | Jul 03 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | If they had one more child, they wouldn't have made it. | Jul 03 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Makes me wonder why people are members of religions like that. | Jul 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | If someone came up to me and demanded that I have children, I'd be like "What? Are you paying for it?". | Jul 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | I can't figure out what goes on in these peoples heads. | Jul 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | $11,000 a year was below the poverty line for two people in 1990. | Jul 03 19:36 |
| MinceR | brainwashing of children | Jul 03 19:37 |
| MinceR | connection to other virulent and harmful memes such as nationalism. | Jul 03 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | I remember getting into an argument with my mom when she couldn't figure out how I was getting by on ~$16,000 a year when I was working at Walmart. | Jul 03 19:37 |
| MinceR | no critical thinking courses + proselytization | Jul 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | She insisted that I was doing something illegal on the side because I was always well dressed and had stuff.... | Jul 03 19:38 |
| MinceR | (especially targeted at people in a vulnerable situation) | Jul 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | I told her that she wouldn't believe the kind of clothing that rich people threw into the thrift store bins. | Jul 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them still have the tags on them. | Jul 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Yeah. One person can live comfortably enough on $15-16,000 a year. | Jul 03 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | If you have even one child, your standard of living will be destroyed. | Jul 03 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | The line of living comfortably vs. living in squalor is often having just one child. | Jul 03 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | The birth rate is going way down as people figure that out. | Jul 03 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | The rich criminals that run everything noticed this and are freaking out. | Jul 03 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | If it keeps up over 10-20 years, then wages for every job will have to rise because unemployment will go down. | Jul 03 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | They want to keep unemployment up and wages down, so they're promoting immigration, including 2-3 million unskilled people that we really don't need here. | Jul 03 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Ideal unemployment for them is high enough to where they set the wages, but not so high that it causes a catastrophe. | Jul 03 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | That's why you keep hearing the Federal Reserve calling 6.5% unemployment "good enough" as a target. | Jul 03 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Ron Paul actually pointed out another scary thing about this Immigration bill. | Jul 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | Mandatory E-Verify. | Jul 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | He pointed out that it was likely that people would get on the "do not hire" list simply because they're on Obama's shitlist. | Jul 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think that's out of the question. We've seen the other things he's done. | Jul 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | How long could it be before anyone who annoys the administration can't seem to find a job? :) | Jul 03 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Is this going on in Hungaristan yet? :D | Jul 03 19:46 |
| MinceR | i think it depends on where you're looking for a job | Jul 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | It's also the final piece in forcing Social Security on everyone. | Jul 03 19:48 |
| MinceR | both the nazis and the commies admitted they have lists of who supports which kind of fascist | Jul 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | Technically, parents still don't have to get a social security number for their children. | Jul 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | In practice, all of them do because the IRS won't give you the child tax credit unless you list a SSN for everyone you claim the credit on. | Jul 03 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | They started doing that in the 1980s. | Jul 03 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Within a year, 7 million fictional children mysteriously disappeared. :D | Jul 03 19:49 |
| MinceR | i just received a link to an article on one major hungarian electricity provider maintaining a list on the political allegiance of their workers | Jul 03 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Before that, you told the IRS how many children you were declaring and it just had to accept whatever number you gave them. | Jul 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | It was technically fraud, but they never investigated anything that seemed reasonable. | Jul 03 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | So you had taxpayers with no children claiming that they had 4-5 children. | Jul 03 19:50 |
| MinceR | also, the state asked about religion in the census | Jul 03 19:51 |
| MinceR | they'll probably start persecuting non-christians | Jul 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | Each child you claim exempts another $1,500 in gross income that you don't have to pay federal taxes on. | Jul 03 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | So it was an easy way to get several thousand dollars in deductions. | Jul 03 19:51 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR: They don't ask about religion on the US census. | Jul 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | There's a short form and a long form. | Jul 03 19:52 |
| MinceR | see, hungary is ahead of the us! | Jul 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | About 1 in 10 people get the long form, called the American Community Survey. | Jul 03 19:52 |
| MinceR | hungary shows the way to jesusland | Jul 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | It has about 150 questions on it. | Jul 03 19:52 |
| DaemonFC | How much rent do you pay? | Jul 03 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | How long is your commute to work? | Jul 03 19:53 |
| MinceR | i own the apartment i live in | Jul 03 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | All kinds of stuff. | Jul 03 19:53 |
| MinceR | oh, you mean the census :> | Jul 03 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | They sent me one, and I filled out my name, address, and number of people who live at that address (1). | Jul 03 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | Then I left the rest blank, signed it, and mailed it back. | Jul 03 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | They sent out a census worker to ask me about the rest. I told them that they were trespassing and they had five minutes to get off of my property before I called the police. | Jul 03 19:54 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: Yeah. The government just loves to know everything it can about us. | Jul 03 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Eventually, I suspect that everyone will get the long form. | Jul 03 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | The people they send out to harass people that they think haven't sufficiently complied are just temporary employees. | Jul 03 19:56 |
| MinceR | if i told a census worker that, i'd be laughed at | Jul 03 19:56 |
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| DaemonFC | That's why unemployment went down so much for a few months in 2010. | Jul 03 19:56 |
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| DaemonFC | Obama was trying to say that thanks to his policies, unemployment levels were rapidly declining. | Jul 03 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Then as the census work died down and they started firing the temps, the rate came back up. | Jul 03 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | It's true that it was fortunate that the mandatory census occurred when it did. | Jul 03 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | It just so happened to be the reason for hundreds of thousands of temp jobs in the middle of the worst unemployment in nearly 100 years. | Jul 03 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | But, its effects were short lived and we were soon back to the "new normal" | Jul 03 19:59 |
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| MinceR | http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-everything-were-doing-five-blades,11056/ | Jul 03 20:02 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Fuck Everything, We're Doing Five Blades | The Onion - America's Finest News Source .::. Size~: 36.88 KB | Jul 03 20:02 |
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| DaemonFC | A five blade razor is truly decadent. | Jul 03 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Each time they increase the blade count, the price of the heads goes up, a lot. | Jul 03 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | I don't care how long they claim their blades last. | Jul 03 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | I can't seem to use one for more than 6-7 shaves. | Jul 03 20:04 |
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| DaemonFC | The American Medical Association now says that being obese is a disease, not a lifestyle choice. | Jul 03 20:08 |
| MinceR | :) | Jul 03 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | I wasn't aware that eating the entire bag of potato chips and then going to the all you can eat buffet was a disease. | Jul 03 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | Well, now we know. | Jul 03 20:08 |
| MinceR | knowing is half the battle. | Jul 03 20:09 |
| MinceR | and the other half is violence. | Jul 03 20:09 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.wane.com/dpp/news/crime/Man-found-asleep-in-store-arrested-for-meth | Jul 03 20:12 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/07/02/obama-delay-health-care-law/2484623/ | Jul 03 20:18 |
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| DaemonFC | Of course the law doesn't let him do that, but he's selectively implementing laws with nobody challenging him, so it's likely that this won't be any different. | Jul 03 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR: "I AM.....THE LAW!" | Jul 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Jul 03 20:20 |
| MinceR | :> | Jul 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | I actually looked at the law to see if it gave him the authority to suspend that section, and it does not. | Jul 03 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | It says the implementation of that section is to begin on January 1, 2014. | Jul 03 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | It basically means that if anyone who is working for an employer that is not providing coverage that that section requires sues him, a court could order enforcement to begin immediately. | Jul 03 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | But, the legal process moves so slowly, that by the time it reached the Supreme Court, they wouldn't be able to decide on it until about 6 months after Obama says the new implementation date is to begin. | Jul 03 20:23 |
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| MinceR | http://www.theonion.com/articles/sometimes-when-things-get-really-stressful-i-close,32863/?ref=auto | Jul 03 20:39 |
| TechrightsBot-tr | Title: Sometimes When Things Get Really Stressful, I Close My Eyes, Sit Back, And Pretend I’m Back In Kenya | The Onion - America's Finest News Source .::. Size~: 37.36 KB | Jul 03 20:39 |
| DaemonFC | There's a program that replaced Angel Food Ministries. | Jul 03 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | I hope it ends up here soon. | Jul 03 21:08 |
| DaemonFC | The way the old program worked, you just placed an order for boxes of pre-selected food and paid them whatever your total ended up being when you picked it up. | Jul 03 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't income based, so it didn't matter how much money you made. | Jul 03 21:09 |
| DaemonFC | The old program was shut down because it turned out that the people running it were embezzling. | Jul 03 21:10 |
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