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| TechBytesBot | plus.google.com | Homer Slated - Google+ - The Grauniad asks; "Why have young people in Japan stopped… [ http://ur1.ca/fy0kp ] | Oct 27 00:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The Grauniad asks; "Why have young people in Japan stopped having sex?" | Oct 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Answer: They're probably terrified of giving birth to two-headed babies. | Oct 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 27 00:01 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > We can come to either Lincoln (closer to us) or London. | Oct 27 08:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 27 08:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Either one is fine with me. | Oct 27 08:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | In that case, near to the date I'll tell you which. | Oct 27 08:27 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ^RMS | Oct 27 08:27 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > I don't know if you got listen to Seth 's excellent interview yet, it | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > was great. | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXJIgvfTPaM&feature=youtube_gdata_player | Oct 27 17:43 |
| TechBytesBot | www.youtube.com | TTA Podcast 131: The Richard Dawkins Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwmwy ] | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I finally watched it today. Loved it. | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I didn't know some bits about his personal life, such as the fact he was an anti-war activist while in the States (a bit like some other idols of mine from his generation or older). Another interesting bit is (except minor things about life in Africa) was that his very major breakthrough occurred only around age 35. I thought Selfish Gene was preceded by other major work, and that he had done much more than just standard research | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and some teaching. | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I hope that one day my work will get wider recognition. I'm in a different field. | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Watching the above was no problem; wife was out in church (spot the irony)! | Oct 27 17:43 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3213010 | Oct 27 20:09 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My mother and now my mother in law both prevented access to generics. The cartel prevents access. Patents and so-called 'treaties' are evil. | Oct 27 20:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The only aspirins you can buy in Belgium are Bayer - voila the free market! It's monopoly-capitalism, i.e. cartels, one of the foundation blocks of fascism. Fascism was not a reaction to communism, but a reaction to the loss of the absolute monarchies (Russia, Germany, Austro-Hungary, Ottoman) and the introduction of universal suffrage in the other countries." | Oct 27 20:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Aspirin costs pennies here. i thought this was universal by now... | Oct 27 20:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://stallman.org/articles/machu.html | Oct 27 20:46 |
| TechBytesBot | stallman.org | Machu Picchu | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I ended my speech that evening at around 920, then said that I had to | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | leave right away because I needed to get some sleep and it was already | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | too late. (Jon "Mad dog" Hall was speaking after me, meaning he would | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | get even less sleep, and I did not want to delay him further.) | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Students asked me to stop so they could get photos and autographs, but | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I said "I need some time to sleep!" and walked away toward Tany's | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | house. | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 20 or so students walked out with me. Several blocks later, at Tany's | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | house, 15 of them were still with me. It was astounding--nothing like | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | this has happened to me before. I had to catch my breath after | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | walking up the stairs to Tany's street, so I used that time to do | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | photos and autographs for those who were there. | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | From his house, Tany dropped me at the hotel. I went up to my room, | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and my key card did not work. | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I went down to reception and they said, "Who are you? You are not on | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | any of our lists!" After around 15 minutes they worked out that they | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | had canceled my room and rented it to someone else, because I was not | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | really using it and the hotel was full. Since they owed me a room, | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | they sent me to another hotel by taxi. I got there at 11pm and went | Oct 27 20:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | to sleep after just a little reading. I left a note for at the old | Oct 27 20:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | hotel to give to Jon Hall, saying where I was and asking him to delay | Oct 27 20:47 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the departure if I were a few minutes late. | Oct 27 20:47 |
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| schestowitz_bed | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3220345 | Oct 28 13:47 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: AbiWord: The little word processor that could | Oct 28 13:47 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.examiner.com | AbiWord: The little word processor that could - Bangor free software | Examiner.com [ http://ur1.ca/fy8ey ] | Oct 28 13:47 |
| schestowitz_bed | "but as said "only" the little word processor. much different from another application from the so-called "Gnome Office" application suite, Gnumeric (which is really great and outruns other spreadsheet applications." | Oct 28 13:47 |
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| schestowitz_bed | >> I want to ask you; how do you want me to format posts? Would you like | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> many links per page? One link and excerpt? Maybe full-length opinion | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> pieces that tie together news (a bit like Larabel's site)? I ask you | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> because you know the community better and I want to preserve the | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> spirit of Tux Machines. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I'm gonna leave that up to you. It's your baby now. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Regarding payment, tell me how you would like me to make my payment | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> (maybe bank-to-bank transfer, maybe PayPal) and I will do this as | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> early as next week. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I guess bank transfer will work for me. Routing number 264181671 and account | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > number 973102. As soon as received, we'll start the transfer process. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> I want to assure you that the site will keep its identity and style. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> TM was always my _first_ go-to site, as somehow I found it much better | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> - -- content-wise -- than all other sites (I also loved Groklaw, esp. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> News Picks). It's you who built a wonderful site and it's you whose | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> experience I will try to preserve. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I appreciate all that, but you do what you want. I did tell folks that the | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > new owner would preserve the tradition of tuxmachines, but I'm sure you have | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > all kinds of good ideas for improving it. Some original content will go a | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > long way in getting the ad revenue back up. I'll go through and bring all the | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > ads current and then go to my paypal account and cancel all the subscriptions | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > (so they can reup with you). Then you can change the paypal addy on the | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > advertising sections and the google number. But I'll get you those passwords | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > as soon as I get the money. | Oct 29 19:27 |
| schestowitz_bed | Thanks, Susan, I will deal with the payments this week or more likely next week (wife and I are busy later this week). I'm keeping your notes above to help remind me of what needs doing afterwards. | Oct 29 19:27 |
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| schestowitz_bed | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226573 | Oct 30 01:33 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical staff bites back at article about #ubuntu #privacy but evidence supports the critics, not Canonical https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts/WRxdU56WdbN | Oct 30 01:33 |
| TechBytesBot | -> plus.google.com | Swapnil Bhartiya - Google+ - In times like these when spying by these two countries is… [ http://ur1.ca/fyf7k ] | Oct 30 01:33 |
| schestowitz_bed | "People have already left--most of them to Mint and other Ubuntu derivatives without built-in Amazon search and with better desktop environments. Ubuntu and Canonical survive only on the largesse of Mark Shuttleworth and their presence on things like AWS." | Oct 30 01:33 |
| schestowitz_bed | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226391 | Oct 30 01:33 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "After nine years and with billions already spent, doomed [proprietary] computer system is abandoned" http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-pulls-the-plug-on-its-11bn-it-system-2330906.html #nhs #uk | Oct 30 01:33 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.independent.co.uk | NHS pulls the plug on its £11bn IT system - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/fygzn ] | Oct 30 01:33 |
| schestowitz_bed | "The future of Obamacare if we keep leaving these IT contracts up to companies like CGI Federal and Oracle.' | Oct 30 01:34 |
| schestowitz_bed | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226278 | Oct 30 01:34 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today at lunch had another debate with another older person to whom #surveillance is "good" because... TERRORISM. Using #NSA talking points. | Oct 30 01:34 |
| schestowitz_bed | "Never mind that precisely zero terrorists plots have been foiled due to NSA surveillance. And how did that billion dollar FBI facial recognition database work for the Boston bombers?" | Oct 30 01:34 |
| schestowitz_bed | Precisely, I made those points | Oct 30 01:34 |
| schestowitz_bed | > Here's a reconstruction of what I tried to send earlier. Some | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > interaction between engimail, thunderbird, and gnome-keyring (or | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > whatever it is) seem to have eaten the message while DNS / net was out | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > at the ISP. | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | It oughtn't happen really. The applications need to be robust in the face of exceptions. For me, similar issues happen when IMAP is not accessible, so Sent folder can't be used to save outgoing messages. Very annoying. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Scope of coverage. It's hard to compete on that. In any case, my wife | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> might help me with it; over dinner I've just told her that it's a good | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> way to learn Drupal; she never helped me with such stuff before. Not | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> sure how this would work, but she wants to practice some FOSS... | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > It looks like it's already on Drupal. How separate can it be kept from | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > TR technically? Also the themes and focus are different so the site | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > should stay different. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Yes, both the domain and the CMS. I thought about it last night. This kept me awake. I wonder how easily I can manage multiple domains with one home directory and mutiple 'landing points', e.g. techrights.org going to ~/public_html and tuxmachines.org to ~/public_html/tuxmachines | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Never tried this. Will Apache cope? .htaccess not an issue? | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Oct 30 07:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Feature articles are another option. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> What do you think of the Linux-oriented articles (with links appended) | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> that I've experimented with recently? Worth sticking to? Daily links got | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> too long for people to follow... | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > It looks like the pace is to post there twice a day. Perhaps you could | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > take two worthy articles from your daily links and post them. I notice | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > that she often does not have even more than a mechanical summary and no | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > analysis. If you can write a summary without analysis that might work, | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > but the mechanical summaries seem to be status quo. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > Even the user-submitted ones are short: | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/56126 | Oct 30 07:57 |
| TechBytesBot | www.tuxmachines.org | Big oops! Leo Laporte posts love affair online. | tuxmachines.org | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Yes, but historically it was different. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Oct 30 07:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed | >> How about the Drupal side? Any suggestions would be welcome.. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I'd keep the simple layout. Maybe try Drupal 7 but also keep it | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > technicaly as separate as possible? | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Yes, merging would not go down well. I could bring some layout into limited alignment, like colours and stuff, without removing the identity of Tux Machines. I can maybe make one site focused more on Linux and another on the rest. Not sure how to merge RSS feeds yet... | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Oct 30 07:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Is it worth perhaps importing the TuxMachines content into techrights | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> and set up redictions? Maybe just keep the domain as is (TuxMachines) | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> but virtually be on the botcottn homedir, with links leading to other | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> stuff on techrights? | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I'd keep the existing structure as much as is practical, separate from | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > TR. It looks like the oldest is from 2005. So there are a fair number | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > of links to redirect if that is chosen. I'mn not sure how the search | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > engines treat that these days. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > News aggregators are a tight market, especially FOSS news aggregators. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > It shouldn't crowd Pogson, that should be avoided, I like his style and | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > goals. FSDaily seems not to have the small but critical mass needed to | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > drive activity there, so that's not a worry. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | The main competition is LXer, Linux Today, and maybe Linux.com picks. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > Tuxmachines posts get between 500 to 1500 reads. So it's small. Also, | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | > what about the commentors? M$ will send their shills if it takes off. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | Only registered users can comment. There used to be some pro-Microsoft commenters there years ago. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> I only got the good news hours ago, so implementation-wise I hardly | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> thought of it. Actually, I think a lot while I type this. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> How about this: | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> tuxmachines.org/POST/STUFF | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> redirects to techrights.org/home/POST/STUFF, where the URL is preserved | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> as "tuxmachines.org/POST/STUFF" but the content actually brought from | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> the TR installation of Drupal (imported content). How would search | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> engines treat this? The old links would all still work and the old | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> identity and site name be saved; it'll just be a sort of branch, like | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> boycottnovell.com - I can then use the Drupal side of techrights for | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Linux news and the Wordpress side for Microsoft, Apple, tech issues... | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Ideas welcome. It's not guaranteed we're getting tuxmachines with | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> ~100,000 hits per day. Need to keep the loyal community (both TR and TM) | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> happy and capable of finding what it's after... else they'd go away. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | I guess once I gain access to all the stuff I need to figure out how to configure apache for it, then figure out how to manage new stories. | Oct 30 07:58 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | Site problem today | Oct 30 13:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 30 13:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | There are some access issues; some IPs cannot reach it at certain times... Glyn Moody reported it, yesterday the whole day no computer in my house could access it, this morning Facebook was blocked by the site. I looked into iptables but saw nothing there which can explain it. | Oct 30 13:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Thanks in advance for any help you can give :-) | Oct 30 13:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 30 13:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3228719 | Oct 30 13:08 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Glenn Greenwald "Dick Cheney engaged In some of the most radical and criminal conduct in the US" | Oct 30 13:08 |
| TechBytesBot | Photo by sylviaj@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ebc03edd749e2f218587.jpg | Oct 30 13:08 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.youtube.com | Glenn Greenwald "Dick Cheney Engaged In Some Of The Most Radical & Criminal Conduct In The U.S.!" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fyjo6 ] | Oct 30 13:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dick+chenney+shoots&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0 | Oct 30 13:10 |
| TechBytesBot | www.google.co.uk | dick chenney shoots - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fyjog ] | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | How many times do you have to shoot people before they realize they are not safe with weapons. | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Who is the most dangerous man here ........ think that Glenn Greenwald sums it up - the people who want power take it by using information they gain - then use it against the people they want to take down. | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | When they do it in secret - its called stalking your prey .......... * ( while keeping silent ........... ) | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If the people who got shot by the stalker get to do the same back then that is fair, ( same goes with spying on them ) so if the NSA is being fair , what information did it obtain while spying on people like Bush and Cheney .......... is there a list of exemptions or is everyone fair game ......... if so then who spies on the ones that spy to make sure the game does not have motives that are illegal. | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Thing with legal is when you make the rules - then nothing you do is illegal ........ as rules can get changed to suit ............. | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Think most things in life need to be covered by good moral values - that sit above LAW ........... and just keep people from going astray in their own desires for total power ........... if their own morals are seen to be wrong - we really do not want the next generation of children watching and learning what they get away with - then following the same principals. | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Unless we want a society to go bad .............. | Oct 30 13:10 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Works for every country - which leaders have the best moral values ? | Oct 30 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3224038 | Oct 31 01:25 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CNN on those 'poor' #drone 'pilots' http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/25/confessions-of-an-american-drone-warrior/ "The “video game” aspect of his job was reinforced by his trainers, he said." | Oct 31 01:25 |
| TechBytesBot | -> amanpour.blogs.cnn.com | Confessions of an American drone warrior – Amanpour - CNN.com Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/fyfbj ] | Oct 31 01:25 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 31 01:26 |
| schestowitz | Drone's aren't just bad for privacy and people overseas. They are the ultimate answer to our last defence, which is that the military forces have always been manned by human beings capable of independent thought (and thus capable of revolting against their leadership when it becomes blatantly clear that orders are not in humankinds best interests). | Oct 31 01:26 |
| schestowitz | When most of the police and military can be replaced by automated units, there will finally be no questioning orders from the top, no matter how inhumane. | Oct 31 01:26 |
| schestowitz | If you think the treatment of Occupy protesters by police was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. | Oct 31 01:26 |
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| schestowitz__ | stupid BT connection again, 3rd time in 1 day | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:55] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3232952 | Nov 01 07:13 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google and Other Internet Giants Lied Because the NSA Gets Data Without Subpoena or Even a Warrant | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> " | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> Google did not ignore that, they started to encrypt their traffic. | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> Google was also aware that Microsoft and others were spying on Windows users. Matt Cutts and the search team went out of his way to prove that Microsoft spied on what people typed into the Google toolbar in Windows. Then they blew the whistle and have been building free software to replace Windows and OSX. | Nov 01 07:13 |
| TechBytesBot | -> techrights.org | Google and Other Internet Giants Lied Because the NSA Gets Data Without Subpoena or Even a Warrant | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fyv3k ] | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> I would like them to have done more but it is difficult to argue with their success. Would we have 1.5 million Andorid activations per day if the company had really done what's right and went with copyleft? Real freedom would have been rejected by both telcos and the US government. | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> What they do now will be interesting. | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> " | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3232921 | Nov 01 07:13 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Back Door (Automatic Update) in WordPress and What It Means to Techrights | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <schestowitz__> "What can you do if the NSA compromises your DNS and you are not really downloading the package you think you are?" | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <schestowitz__> My DNS is shared by others and not operated by the US | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226357 | Nov 01 07:14 |
| TechBytesBot | -> techrights.org | Back Door (Automatic Update) in WordPress and What It Means to Techrights | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fyv3a ] | Nov 01 07:14 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## [The artificial womb](http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/10/the-artificial-womb-is-born-and-the-world-of-the-matrix-begins-2647320.html) | Nov 01 07:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <TechrightsBN> @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## [The artificial womb](http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/10/the-artificial-womb-is-born-and-the-world-of-the-matrix-begins-2647320.html) | Nov 01 07:14 |
| TechBytesBot | -> beforeitsnews.com | The Artificial Womb Is Born And The World of the Matrix begins | Science and Technology [ http://ur1.ca/fyf03 ] | Nov 01 07:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <TechrightsBN> -> beforeitsnews.com | The Artificial Womb Is Born And The World of the Matrix begins | Science and Technology [ http://ur1.ca/fyf03 ] | Nov 01 07:14 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:58] <schestowitz__> "Don't f?*k with nature because it could mean a very sticky end for busy little fingers...This is biotech gone too far, as in the case of most other biotech. Alarmism²| | Nov 01 07:14 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226357 | Nov 02 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | "Apophatically, I will assert what nature is not i.e. dysbiotic and disharmonious, which will be bread in the nanobot future of #transnaturalism. Any argument can be eroded by this clear relativism, which to me represents a straw man and faulty first principles...Nature is that which reconciles with nature (itself), yet the left-brained hypertechnological (albeit karmic) soul re-appropriator paradigm has no reconciliation whatsoever. | Nov 02 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | Give me endosymbiotic theory over neo-darwinist AI and nanotechnology... Let me coin that #transhumanism and #transnaturalism are merely #eugenics in a high technology epoch...Fuck the grid, I say i.e. resistance is fertile..."777" | Nov 02 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | "bred* (lol)" | Nov 02 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | "It's like the confusion of a transhumanist homosexual who believes that there are eggs to be fertilised inside an anus..." | Nov 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | "Human activities have been subverted by inhuman manipulation - simple..." | Nov 02 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 02 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | I fail to see your point. Homosexuality can be observed all over nature, and even humans have evolved naturally. | Nov 02 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't see it's any more illogical that humans do what comes from their nature than it would be to say it would be unnatural for humans to come about in the first place. Human activities, or should I say activities of intellect, are what comes naturally from any species who evolve intellect. And that includes scientific reasoning and the drive to explore, study, create and recreate. | Nov 02 21:00 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "What you're talking about is relativism, whereby one can justify anything with relativism. The question is - who has the most institutionalised thinking? Nature boy, or transnature boy? Is it not our birthright to have wisdom coupled with intellect? Furthermore, is there a certain nazism when the natural world can no longer co-exist with the transnatural world, and then the transnatural world simply destroys nature? Humans are | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | terrestrial creatures and the yearning for nature is very self-evident when astronauts spend too long in space, for example (no blue sky etc.). If one is not able to choose between nature and transnature, then this would represent eugenics disguised as evolution, which are both bunk eugenicist propaganda. Look at GMO - splice a gene here, splice a gene there, and look, we have disease and the severe destruction of ecosystems. | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Transnaturalism is proving itself a Frankenstein technology (whether it's beta testing or whatever!) and of course, there is little concern for the metaphysical alluded to in ancient texts. Transnaturalism is by no means for truly sentient beings who know their birthright and respect their wise course, aside from these gross technologies. Look what our treasured science did with Depleted Uranium weapons, never mind Fukushima etc. What | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | happened to naturalist technology, which transmutes elements at body temperature and operates with barely a whisper? #transhumanism #transnaturalism #neo-darwinism #eugenics #reductionism #frankensteintechnology #biotechnology" | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "And what of exclusive homosexuality - would a dominance of that behaviourism not eliminate the respective gene pools i.e. the characteristic of confusion over whether there are eggs in an anus? Homosexuality is now becoming secondary to all of the xenoestrogens fed to humans via diet and environment, which is by no means our birthright and a testament to transnaturalism. Exclusive homosexuality is #self-eugenics and #self-genocide, | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | is it not?" | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | "Incidentally, both institutionalised and esoteric anthropology is in support of the alpha male sperm donors and their respective egg donors..." | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Is it not our birthright to have wisdom coupled with intellect? | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | There are rights in nature? | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | eugenicist propaganda | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | I stopped reading here. Your rants are beginning to sound just a bit too incoherent. | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | Look what our treasured science did with Depleted Uranium weapons, never mind Fukushima etc. | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | It is not science that causes these things. Being irresponsible is the problem there. You are blaming knives for stabbings now. It's as relevant as blaming the internet for child pornography. | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | And you are still using the Internet, one of the posterchilds of science. Shouldn't you be ashamed of yourself, you 'transnaturalist' you. | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | And what of exclusive homosexuality | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | What of it? The thing is, not reproducing is hardly a matter of eugenics, nor can it be considered such. If someone wants to not reproduce it is their own loss, not mine. Nor the society's. That said, many homosexual couples do reproduce. Maybe not in the conventional way, but there are more ways to fertilize an egg than having sex. | Nov 02 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm sorry, there will not be "exclusive homosexuality". I can't see everyone converting to homosexuality. Sorry, I just can't. Won't happen. | Nov 02 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 02 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | "Oh, and I lied about stopping reading. ;) Didn't stop. Just skipped a few paragraphs." | Nov 02 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | "Question: Is it wise to place a high-power carcinogenic on the top of a school? That's how technology is being applied, for example. Is it wise to introduce GMOs into the wild? The latter is literally a bread knife being used to stab..." | Nov 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz__ | "Homosexuals are propagandising the young now to identify transgender relationships as a norm in the social and biological context (not to mention the proliferation of xenoestrogens in our food/environment that feminise males), which represents the breakdown of gender roles, having net effects on our psychology. You call me incoherent (as an ad hominem) and yet your arguments are self-evidently institutionalised and uncompelling. And, | Nov 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz__ | what if transhumanism was born in the context of corporatism, fascism and neo-darwinism - perhaps the construct would be more akin to a prison than nirvana. Is it me, or do I speak more eloquently than you, even though that might allude to some measure of egotism, which is associated with transhumanism and hence counter-intuitive to my cause. Forgive my nootropism, of course, but you'd probably not comprehend what I'm inferring on | Nov 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz__ | account of your rancid neuro-linguistic... You present a shallow argument for #transhumanism and it shows...' | Nov 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't find these views offensive and they are actually coherent and comprehensible, even if I don't agree with everything. | Nov 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz__ | "Spoken like a truly loveless neo-darwinist...The right for living organisms is intrinsic to nature i.e. to maintain homeostasis and adaptation in their environment, whether it's primitive technology like wearing animal skins or building fires, to not having to spend one's life in the path of a 4G LTE cellphone tower to offer some kind of dichotomy...The right is not to have one's DNA corrupted, as well as not having to endure harmful | Nov 02 21:09 |
| schestowitz__ | prosthetic technology like 4G cell tower radiation..." | Nov 02 21:09 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | https://plus.google.com/102946757503830834230/posts/Zra5P8PoJ9a | Oct 27 00:00 |
| TechBytesBot | plus.google.com | Homer Slated - Google+ - The Grauniad asks; "Why have young people in Japan stopped… [ http://ur1.ca/fy0kp ] | Oct 27 00:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | The Grauniad asks; "Why have young people in Japan stopped having sex?" | Oct 27 00:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Answer: They're probably terrified of giving birth to two-headed babies. | Oct 27 00:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 27 00:00 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > We can come to either Lincoln (closer to us) or London. | Oct 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > Either one is fine with me. | Oct 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | In that case, near to the date I'll tell you which. | Oct 27 08:26 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | ^RMS | Oct 27 08:26 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | > I don't know if you got listen to Seth 's excellent interview yet, it | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > was great. | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXJIgvfTPaM&feature=youtube_gdata_player | Oct 27 17:42 |
| TechBytesBot | www.youtube.com | TTA Podcast 131: The Richard Dawkins Interview - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fwmwy ] | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I finally watched it today. Loved it. | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I didn't know some bits about his personal life, such as the fact he was an anti-war activist while in the States (a bit like some other idols of mine from his generation or older). Another interesting bit is (except minor things about life in Africa) was that his very major breakthrough occurred only around age 35. I thought Selfish Gene was preceded by other major work, and that he had done much more than just standard research | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and some teaching. | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I hope that one day my work will get wider recognition. I'm in a different field. | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Watching the above was no problem; wife was out in church (spot the irony)! | Oct 27 17:42 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3213010 | Oct 27 20:08 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My mother and now my mother in law both prevented access to generics. The cartel prevents access. Patents and so-called 'treaties' are evil. | Oct 27 20:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | "The only aspirins you can buy in Belgium are Bayer - voila the free market! It's monopoly-capitalism, i.e. cartels, one of the foundation blocks of fascism. Fascism was not a reaction to communism, but a reaction to the loss of the absolute monarchies (Russia, Germany, Austro-Hungary, Ottoman) and the introduction of universal suffrage in the other countries." | Oct 27 20:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Aspirin costs pennies here. i thought this was universal by now... | Oct 27 20:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | http://stallman.org/articles/machu.html | Oct 27 20:46 |
| TechBytesBot | stallman.org | Machu Picchu | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I ended my speech that evening at around 920, then said that I had to | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | leave right away because I needed to get some sleep and it was already | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | too late. (Jon "Mad dog" Hall was speaking after me, meaning he would | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | get even less sleep, and I did not want to delay him further.) | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Students asked me to stop so they could get photos and autographs, but | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I said "I need some time to sleep!" and walked away toward Tany's | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | house. | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | 20 or so students walked out with me. Several blocks later, at Tany's | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | house, 15 of them were still with me. It was astounding--nothing like | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | this has happened to me before. I had to catch my breath after | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | walking up the stairs to Tany's street, so I used that time to do | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | photos and autographs for those who were there. | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | From his house, Tany dropped me at the hotel. I went up to my room, | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | and my key card did not work. | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | I went down to reception and they said, "Who are you? You are not on | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | any of our lists!" After around 15 minutes they worked out that they | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | had canceled my room and rented it to someone else, because I was not | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | really using it and the hotel was full. Since they owed me a room, | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | they sent me to another hotel by taxi. I got there at 11pm and went | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | to sleep after just a little reading. I left a note for at the old | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | hotel to give to Jon Hall, saying where I was and asking him to delay | Oct 27 20:46 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | the departure if I were a few minutes late. | Oct 27 20:46 |
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| schestowitz_bed | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3220345 | Oct 28 13:47 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: AbiWord: The little word processor that could | Oct 28 13:47 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.examiner.com | AbiWord: The little word processor that could - Bangor free software | Examiner.com [ http://ur1.ca/fy8ey ] | Oct 28 13:47 |
| schestowitz_bed | "but as said "only" the little word processor. much different from another application from the so-called "Gnome Office" application suite, Gnumeric (which is really great and outruns other spreadsheet applications." | Oct 28 13:47 |
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| schestowitz_bed | >> I want to ask you; how do you want me to format posts? Would you like | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> many links per page? One link and excerpt? Maybe full-length opinion | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> pieces that tie together news (a bit like Larabel's site)? I ask you | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> because you know the community better and I want to preserve the | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> spirit of Tux Machines. | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I'm gonna leave that up to you. It's your baby now. | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Regarding payment, tell me how you would like me to make my payment | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> (maybe bank-to-bank transfer, maybe PayPal) and I will do this as | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> early as next week. | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I guess bank transfer will work for me. Routing number 264181671 and account | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | > number 973102. As soon as received, we'll start the transfer process. | Oct 29 19:25 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> I want to assure you that the site will keep its identity and style. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> TM was always my _first_ go-to site, as somehow I found it much better | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> - -- content-wise -- than all other sites (I also loved Groklaw, esp. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> News Picks). It's you who built a wonderful site and it's you whose | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> experience I will try to preserve. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I appreciate all that, but you do what you want. I did tell folks that the | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > new owner would preserve the tradition of tuxmachines, but I'm sure you have | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > all kinds of good ideas for improving it. Some original content will go a | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > long way in getting the ad revenue back up. I'll go through and bring all the | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > ads current and then go to my paypal account and cancel all the subscriptions | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > (so they can reup with you). Then you can change the paypal addy on the | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > advertising sections and the google number. But I'll get you those passwords | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | > as soon as I get the money. | Oct 29 19:26 |
| schestowitz_bed | Thanks, Susan, I will deal with the payments this week or more likely next week (wife and I are busy later this week). I'm keeping your notes above to help remind me of what needs doing afterwards. | Oct 29 19:26 |
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| schestowitz_bed | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226573 | Oct 30 01:32 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Canonical staff bites back at article about #ubuntu #privacy but evidence supports the critics, not Canonical https://plus.google.com/109027644713767623413/posts/WRxdU56WdbN | Oct 30 01:32 |
| TechBytesBot | -> plus.google.com | Swapnil Bhartiya - Google+ - In times like these when spying by these two countries is… [ http://ur1.ca/fyf7k ] | Oct 30 01:32 |
| schestowitz_bed | "People have already left--most of them to Mint and other Ubuntu derivatives without built-in Amazon search and with better desktop environments. Ubuntu and Canonical survive only on the largesse of Mark Shuttleworth and their presence on things like AWS." | Oct 30 01:32 |
| schestowitz_bed | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226391 | Oct 30 01:33 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "After nine years and with billions already spent, doomed [proprietary] computer system is abandoned" http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-pulls-the-plug-on-its-11bn-it-system-2330906.html #nhs #uk | Oct 30 01:33 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.independent.co.uk | NHS pulls the plug on its £11bn IT system - Health News - Health & Families - The Independent [ http://ur1.ca/fygzn ] | Oct 30 01:33 |
| schestowitz_bed | "The future of Obamacare if we keep leaving these IT contracts up to companies like CGI Federal and Oracle.' | Oct 30 01:33 |
| schestowitz_bed | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226278 | Oct 30 01:33 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Today at lunch had another debate with another older person to whom #surveillance is "good" because... TERRORISM. Using #NSA talking points. | Oct 30 01:33 |
| schestowitz_bed | "Never mind that precisely zero terrorists plots have been foiled due to NSA surveillance. And how did that billion dollar FBI facial recognition database work for the Boston bombers?" | Oct 30 01:34 |
| schestowitz_bed | Precisely, I made those points | Oct 30 01:34 |
| schestowitz_bed | > Here's a reconstruction of what I tried to send earlier. Some | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > interaction between engimail, thunderbird, and gnome-keyring (or | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > whatever it is) seem to have eaten the message while DNS / net was out | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > at the ISP. | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | It oughtn't happen really. The applications need to be robust in the face of exceptions. For me, similar issues happen when IMAP is not accessible, so Sent folder can't be used to save outgoing messages. Very annoying. | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Scope of coverage. It's hard to compete on that. In any case, my wife | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> might help me with it; over dinner I've just told her that it's a good | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> way to learn Drupal; she never helped me with such stuff before. Not | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> sure how this would work, but she wants to practice some FOSS... | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > It looks like it's already on Drupal. How separate can it be kept from | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > TR technically? Also the themes and focus are different so the site | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > should stay different. | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | Yes, both the domain and the CMS. I thought about it last night. This kept me awake. I wonder how easily I can manage multiple domains with one home directory and mutiple 'landing points', e.g. techrights.org going to ~/public_html and tuxmachines.org to ~/public_html/tuxmachines | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | Never tried this. Will Apache cope? .htaccess not an issue? | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | Oct 30 07:56 | |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Feature articles are another option. | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> What do you think of the Linux-oriented articles (with links appended) | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> that I've experimented with recently? Worth sticking to? Daily links got | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> too long for people to follow... | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > It looks like the pace is to post there twice a day. Perhaps you could | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > take two worthy articles from your daily links and post them. I notice | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > that she often does not have even more than a mechanical summary and no | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > analysis. If you can write a summary without analysis that might work, | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > but the mechanical summaries seem to be status quo. | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > Even the user-submitted ones are short: | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | > http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/56126 | Oct 30 07:56 |
| TechBytesBot | www.tuxmachines.org | Big oops! Leo Laporte posts love affair online. | tuxmachines.org | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | Yes, but historically it was different. | Oct 30 07:56 |
| schestowitz_bed | Oct 30 07:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed | >> How about the Drupal side? Any suggestions would be welcome.. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I'd keep the simple layout. Maybe try Drupal 7 but also keep it | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > technicaly as separate as possible? | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Yes, merging would not go down well. I could bring some layout into limited alignment, like colours and stuff, without removing the identity of Tux Machines. I can maybe make one site focused more on Linux and another on the rest. Not sure how to merge RSS feeds yet... | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Oct 30 07:57 | |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Is it worth perhaps importing the TuxMachines content into techrights | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> and set up redictions? Maybe just keep the domain as is (TuxMachines) | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> but virtually be on the botcottn homedir, with links leading to other | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> stuff on techrights? | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > I'd keep the existing structure as much as is practical, separate from | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > TR. It looks like the oldest is from 2005. So there are a fair number | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > of links to redirect if that is chosen. I'mn not sure how the search | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > engines treat that these days. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > News aggregators are a tight market, especially FOSS news aggregators. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > It shouldn't crowd Pogson, that should be avoided, I like his style and | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > goals. FSDaily seems not to have the small but critical mass needed to | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > drive activity there, so that's not a worry. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | The main competition is LXer, Linux Today, and maybe Linux.com picks. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > Tuxmachines posts get between 500 to 1500 reads. So it's small. Also, | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | > what about the commentors? M$ will send their shills if it takes off. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | Only registered users can comment. There used to be some pro-Microsoft commenters there years ago. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> I only got the good news hours ago, so implementation-wise I hardly | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> thought of it. Actually, I think a lot while I type this. | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> How about this: | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> tuxmachines.org/POST/STUFF | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> redirects to techrights.org/home/POST/STUFF, where the URL is preserved | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> as "tuxmachines.org/POST/STUFF" but the content actually brought from | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> the TR installation of Drupal (imported content). How would search | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> engines treat this? The old links would all still work and the old | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> identity and site name be saved; it'll just be a sort of branch, like | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> boycottnovell.com - I can then use the Drupal side of techrights for | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Linux news and the Wordpress side for Microsoft, Apple, tech issues... | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> | Oct 30 07:57 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> Ideas welcome. It's not guaranteed we're getting tuxmachines with | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> ~100,000 hits per day. Need to keep the loyal community (both TR and TM) | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | >> happy and capable of finding what it's after... else they'd go away. | Oct 30 07:58 |
| schestowitz_bed | I guess once I gain access to all the stuff I need to figure out how to configure apache for it, then figure out how to manage new stories. | Oct 30 07:58 |
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| schestowitz_bed2 | Site problem today | Oct 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | There are some access issues; some IPs cannot reach it at certain times... Glyn Moody reported it, yesterday the whole day no computer in my house could access it, this morning Facebook was blocked by the site. I looked into iptables but saw nothing there which can explain it. | Oct 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Thanks in advance for any help you can give :-) | Oct 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 30 13:07 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3228719 | Oct 30 13:08 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ### Glenn Greenwald "Dick Cheney engaged In some of the most radical and criminal conduct in the US" | Oct 30 13:08 |
| TechBytesBot | Photo by sylviaj@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_ebc03edd749e2f218587.jpg | Oct 30 13:08 |
| TechBytesBot | -> www.youtube.com | Glenn Greenwald "Dick Cheney Engaged In Some Of The Most Radical & Criminal Conduct In The U.S.!" - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/fyjo6 ] | Oct 30 13:08 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | " | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dick+chenney+shoots&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search&sourceid=Mozilla-search&start=0 | Oct 30 13:09 |
| TechBytesBot | www.google.co.uk | dick chenney shoots - Google Search [ http://ur1.ca/fyjog ] | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | How many times do you have to shoot people before they realize they are not safe with weapons. | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Who is the most dangerous man here ........ think that Glenn Greenwald sums it up - the people who want power take it by using information they gain - then use it against the people they want to take down. | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | When they do it in secret - its called stalking your prey .......... * ( while keeping silent ........... ) | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | If the people who got shot by the stalker get to do the same back then that is fair, ( same goes with spying on them ) so if the NSA is being fair , what information did it obtain while spying on people like Bush and Cheney .......... is there a list of exemptions or is everyone fair game ......... if so then who spies on the ones that spy to make sure the game does not have motives that are illegal. | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Thing with legal is when you make the rules - then nothing you do is illegal ........ as rules can get changed to suit ............. | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Think most things in life need to be covered by good moral values - that sit above LAW ........... and just keep people from going astray in their own desires for total power ........... if their own morals are seen to be wrong - we really do not want the next generation of children watching and learning what they get away with - then following the same principals. | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Unless we want a society to go bad .............. | Oct 30 13:09 |
| schestowitz_bed2 | Works for every country - which leaders have the best moral values ? | Oct 30 13:10 |
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| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3224038 | Oct 31 01:24 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: CNN on those 'poor' #drone 'pilots' http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/25/confessions-of-an-american-drone-warrior/ "The “video game” aspect of his job was reinforced by his trainers, he said." | Oct 31 01:24 |
| TechBytesBot | -> amanpour.blogs.cnn.com | Confessions of an American drone warrior – Amanpour - CNN.com Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/fyfbj ] | Oct 31 01:24 |
| schestowitz | " | Oct 31 01:25 |
| schestowitz | Drone's aren't just bad for privacy and people overseas. They are the ultimate answer to our last defence, which is that the military forces have always been manned by human beings capable of independent thought (and thus capable of revolting against their leadership when it becomes blatantly clear that orders are not in humankinds best interests). | Oct 31 01:25 |
| schestowitz | When most of the police and military can be replaced by automated units, there will finally be no questioning orders from the top, no matter how inhumane. | Oct 31 01:25 |
| schestowitz | If you think the treatment of Occupy protesters by police was bad, you haven't seen anything yet. | Oct 31 01:25 |
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| schestowitz__ | stupid BT connection again, 3rd time in 1 day | Nov 01 07:12 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:55] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3232952 | Nov 01 07:12 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Google and Other Internet Giants Lied Because the NSA Gets Data Without Subpoena or Even a Warrant | Nov 01 07:12 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> " | Nov 01 07:12 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> Google did not ignore that, they started to encrypt their traffic. | Nov 01 07:12 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> Google was also aware that Microsoft and others were spying on Windows users. Matt Cutts and the search team went out of his way to prove that Microsoft spied on what people typed into the Google toolbar in Windows. Then they blew the whistle and have been building free software to replace Windows and OSX. | Nov 01 07:12 |
| TechBytesBot | -> techrights.org | Google and Other Internet Giants Lied Because the NSA Gets Data Without Subpoena or Even a Warrant | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fyv3k ] | Nov 01 07:12 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> I would like them to have done more but it is difficult to argue with their success. Would we have 1.5 million Andorid activations per day if the company had really done what's right and went with copyleft? Real freedom would have been rejected by both telcos and the US government. | Nov 01 07:12 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> What they do now will be interesting. | Nov 01 07:12 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:56] <schestowitz__> " | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3232921 | Nov 01 07:13 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Back Door (Automatic Update) in WordPress and What It Means to Techrights | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <schestowitz__> "What can you do if the NSA compromises your DNS and you are not really downloading the package you think you are?" | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <schestowitz__> My DNS is shared by others and not operated by the US | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <schestowitz__> https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226357 | Nov 01 07:13 |
| TechBytesBot | -> techrights.org | Back Door (Automatic Update) in WordPress and What It Means to Techrights | Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/fyv3a ] | Nov 01 07:13 |
| TechBytesBot | @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## [The artificial womb](http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/10/the-artificial-womb-is-born-and-the-world-of-the-matrix-begins-2647320.html) | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <TechrightsBN> @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com reshared: ## [The artificial womb](http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2013/10/the-artificial-womb-is-born-and-the-world-of-the-matrix-begins-2647320.html) | Nov 01 07:13 |
| TechBytesBot | -> beforeitsnews.com | The Artificial Womb Is Born And The World of the Matrix begins | Science and Technology [ http://ur1.ca/fyf03 ] | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:57] <TechrightsBN> -> beforeitsnews.com | The Artificial Womb Is Born And The World of the Matrix begins | Science and Technology [ http://ur1.ca/fyf03 ] | Nov 01 07:13 |
| schestowitz__ | [06:58] <schestowitz__> "Don't f?*k with nature because it could mean a very sticky end for busy little fingers...This is biotech gone too far, as in the case of most other biotech. Alarmism²| | Nov 01 07:13 |
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| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3226357 | Nov 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | "Apophatically, I will assert what nature is not i.e. dysbiotic and disharmonious, which will be bread in the nanobot future of #transnaturalism. Any argument can be eroded by this clear relativism, which to me represents a straw man and faulty first principles...Nature is that which reconciles with nature (itself), yet the left-brained hypertechnological (albeit karmic) soul re-appropriator paradigm has no reconciliation whatsoever. | Nov 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | Give me endosymbiotic theory over neo-darwinist AI and nanotechnology... Let me coin that #transhumanism and #transnaturalism are merely #eugenics in a high technology epoch...Fuck the grid, I say i.e. resistance is fertile..."777" | Nov 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | "bred* (lol)" | Nov 02 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | "It's like the confusion of a transhumanist homosexual who believes that there are eggs to be fertilised inside an anus..." | Nov 02 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | "Human activities have been subverted by inhuman manipulation - simple..." | Nov 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I fail to see your point. Homosexuality can be observed all over nature, and even humans have evolved naturally. | Nov 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't see it's any more illogical that humans do what comes from their nature than it would be to say it would be unnatural for humans to come about in the first place. Human activities, or should I say activities of intellect, are what comes naturally from any species who evolve intellect. And that includes scientific reasoning and the drive to explore, study, create and recreate. | Nov 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 02 20:59 |
| schestowitz__ | "What you're talking about is relativism, whereby one can justify anything with relativism. The question is - who has the most institutionalised thinking? Nature boy, or transnature boy? Is it not our birthright to have wisdom coupled with intellect? Furthermore, is there a certain nazism when the natural world can no longer co-exist with the transnatural world, and then the transnatural world simply destroys nature? Humans are | Nov 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz__ | terrestrial creatures and the yearning for nature is very self-evident when astronauts spend too long in space, for example (no blue sky etc.). If one is not able to choose between nature and transnature, then this would represent eugenics disguised as evolution, which are both bunk eugenicist propaganda. Look at GMO - splice a gene here, splice a gene there, and look, we have disease and the severe destruction of ecosystems. | Nov 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz__ | Transnaturalism is proving itself a Frankenstein technology (whether it's beta testing or whatever!) and of course, there is little concern for the metaphysical alluded to in ancient texts. Transnaturalism is by no means for truly sentient beings who know their birthright and respect their wise course, aside from these gross technologies. Look what our treasured science did with Depleted Uranium weapons, never mind Fukushima etc. What | Nov 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz__ | happened to naturalist technology, which transmutes elements at body temperature and operates with barely a whisper? #transhumanism #transnaturalism #neo-darwinism #eugenics #reductionism #frankensteintechnology #biotechnology" | Nov 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "And what of exclusive homosexuality - would a dominance of that behaviourism not eliminate the respective gene pools i.e. the characteristic of confusion over whether there are eggs in an anus? Homosexuality is now becoming secondary to all of the xenoestrogens fed to humans via diet and environment, which is by no means our birthright and a testament to transnaturalism. Exclusive homosexuality is #self-eugenics and #self-genocide, | Nov 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz__ | is it not?" | Nov 02 21:01 |
| schestowitz__ | "Incidentally, both institutionalised and esoteric anthropology is in support of the alpha male sperm donors and their respective egg donors..." | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Is it not our birthright to have wisdom coupled with intellect? | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | There are rights in nature? | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | eugenicist propaganda | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I stopped reading here. Your rants are beginning to sound just a bit too incoherent. | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | Look what our treasured science did with Depleted Uranium weapons, never mind Fukushima etc. | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | It is not science that causes these things. Being irresponsible is the problem there. You are blaming knives for stabbings now. It's as relevant as blaming the internet for child pornography. | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And you are still using the Internet, one of the posterchilds of science. Shouldn't you be ashamed of yourself, you 'transnaturalist' you. | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | And what of exclusive homosexuality | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | What of it? The thing is, not reproducing is hardly a matter of eugenics, nor can it be considered such. If someone wants to not reproduce it is their own loss, not mine. Nor the society's. That said, many homosexual couples do reproduce. Maybe not in the conventional way, but there are more ways to fertilize an egg than having sex. | Nov 02 21:02 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm sorry, there will not be "exclusive homosexuality". I can't see everyone converting to homosexuality. Sorry, I just can't. Won't happen. | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "Oh, and I lied about stopping reading. ;) Didn't stop. Just skipped a few paragraphs." | Nov 02 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | "Question: Is it wise to place a high-power carcinogenic on the top of a school? That's how technology is being applied, for example. Is it wise to introduce GMOs into the wild? The latter is literally a bread knife being used to stab..." | Nov 02 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | "Homosexuals are propagandising the young now to identify transgender relationships as a norm in the social and biological context (not to mention the proliferation of xenoestrogens in our food/environment that feminise males), which represents the breakdown of gender roles, having net effects on our psychology. You call me incoherent (as an ad hominem) and yet your arguments are self-evidently institutionalised and uncompelling. And, | Nov 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz__ | what if transhumanism was born in the context of corporatism, fascism and neo-darwinism - perhaps the construct would be more akin to a prison than nirvana. Is it me, or do I speak more eloquently than you, even though that might allude to some measure of egotism, which is associated with transhumanism and hence counter-intuitive to my cause. Forgive my nootropism, of course, but you'd probably not comprehend what I'm inferring on | Nov 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz__ | account of your rancid neuro-linguistic... You present a shallow argument for #transhumanism and it shows...' | Nov 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't find these views offensive and they are actually coherent and comprehensible, even if I don't agree with everything. | Nov 02 21:06 |
| schestowitz__ | "Spoken like a truly loveless neo-darwinist...The right for living organisms is intrinsic to nature i.e. to maintain homeostasis and adaptation in their environment, whether it's primitive technology like wearing animal skins or building fires, to not having to spend one's life in the path of a 4G LTE cellphone tower to offer some kind of dichotomy...The right is not to have one's DNA corrupted, as well as not having to endure harmful | Nov 02 21:07 |
| schestowitz__ | prosthetic technology like 4G cell tower radiation..." | Nov 02 21:08 |
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