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| schestowitz | We just bought new, long, high-quality curtains in M&S for the second room. It was discounted from 80 pounds to 14. | Jun 14 11:56 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/paulhindes/status/610041392598007808 | Jun 14 12:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6213988 | Jun 14 14:00 |
| schestowitz | "I really do despise framing mental-health issues as a choice. Though, I suppose I do sort of make a choice. I choose to stay inside rather than letting the assholes in the world get me down. I do wonder what the guy on the right is on, though. Hopefully, he's not going to have to get a drug test in the near future." | Jun 14 14:00 |
| schestowitz | External factors, like a work environment, don't make it a choice | Jun 14 14:01 |
| schestowitz | Unless the choice is not to go to work, which leads to other stress sources, like financial stresses and lack of productivity, mockery from the media | Jun 14 14:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6189977 | Jun 14 14:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 14 14:03 |
| schestowitz | For the last 4 months or so, I've used ixquick exclusively. I see no ads. Not from Google; not from anyone. I used to use Startpage. I've never seen an ad there either. | Jun 14 14:03 |
| schestowitz | Just tried it with Konqueror. Don't see ads there either. | Jun 14 14:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 14 14:03 |
| schestowitz | The browsers block these | Jun 14 14:03 |
| schestowitz | I've used ixquick for about 3 years, the ads were added last year IIRC | Jun 14 14:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DieZauberer/status/610079397194952704 | Jun 14 14:42 |
| schestowitz | No, if the docs have a list of assets, then OPM crack not needed | Jun 14 14:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DieZauberer/status/610080902316720128 | Jun 14 14:49 |
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| schestowitz | Tony Mobily wrote on 14/06/15 16:45:> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/simple_guide_bitcoins_using_electrum | Jun 14 17:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 14 17:42 |
| schestowitz | > Bitcoin is the most established digital currency available today. It | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > provides a safe, anonymous way to send and receive a virtual currency | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > everybody trusts. However, managing bitcoins is not quite as simple as | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > managing a bank account. <a | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > href="http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/simple_guide_bitcoins_using_electrum">In | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > this article I will explain how to manage your bitcoins using | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > Electrum</a>. Please note that in this article I will provide working | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > knowledge of how to use Electrum, without entering the mysterious land | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > of cryptography and technical details of Bitcoin. | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | > (Howto, Linux) | Jun 14 17:43 |
| schestowitz | Someone else has reported this kind of issue as well, so we know it's not affecting only you. I think that without Mollon we'd be flooded by spam, so I'll see what else can be used. | Jun 14 17:43 |
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| r_schestowitz | "a legend in the making..." | Jun 15 12:07 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mikec1972/status/610402965363535872 | Jun 15 12:07 |
| r_schestowitz | Maybe veteran one... though I doubt it... | Jun 15 12:07 |
| r_schestowitz | "early days, more technical than i imagined." | Jun 15 12:16 |
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| r_schestowitz | "gewg_" writes: | Jun 16 18:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Roy Schestowitz at TechRights reports: | Jun 16 18:06 |
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| r_schestowitz | Microsoft is the devil in the digital world. Apple is only a major demon. Google a lesser demon. Thankfully, SCO is pretty much a dead demon. | Jun 16 18:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Dealing with Microsoft in any way, shape, or form is always detrimental to all parties except Microsoft. MS OS's have always been the most easily exploited OS's in the world. Anything more easily exploited has simply been thrown in the trash bin over time. Any damned fools who actually PAY for MS licenses, and expect to be secure, fully deserve what they get. | Jun 16 18:06 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm nauseated when I have to use an electronic ballot, and I see Microsoft logos on the screen, and Microsoft literature laying on the table for the technician to read. I get positively ill just thinking about it. | Jun 16 18:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/article/2681548/application-development/china-gets-access-to-microsoft-source-code.html [infoworld.com] | Jun 16 18:06 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 18:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.infoworld.com | China gets access to Microsoft source code | InfoWorld | Jun 16 18:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | "It's entirely the greedy corporations fault, cos the corrupt government officials responsible for awarding the contract to Microsoft had no choice... they were forced to take the bribes and favors." | Jun 16 18:07 |
| r_schestowitz | "It's the fault of both, of course.' | Jun 16 18:07 |
| r_schestowitz | "" | Jun 16 18:07 |
| r_schestowitz | You're right that for the most part the government officials had no choice. The decision to privatize comes from the top. Its the legislators' fault for removing the power from the hands of the people and placing it in the hands of corporations; its also the fault of the idiot public for cheering on their representatives as they lose more and more of the authority, checks & balances, and transparency they once had over their delegates." | Jun 16 18:07 |
| r_schestowitz | "Somebody forgot to close a taggy? (I'm beginning to detect a pattern! ;)" | Jun 16 18:07 |
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| r_schestowitz | It is widely known, however, that voting machines in the US use Windows, which has back doors and therefore can never be trusted, with or without tampering by a human operator. | Jun 16 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Any system which we cannot verify the internals and configuration of cannot be trusted, not just those made by companies which are NSA friendly. It seems reasonable that voters should have the right to know precisely how their vote is being handled. Want to use Windows? That's fine. Where's the source code? Let me compile it with the proper tool chain and verify that the signature matches my voting machine. Also, tell me everything about | Jun 16 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | the processor, memory, hard disk, etc... | Jun 16 18:08 |
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| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Processor - System management bus (SMB) might be compromised by extra firmware code in an MCU on said bus. The processor die itself may hide backdoors to subvert privilege separation and memory protection. | Jun 16 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Memory - Memory controllers may modify data on the fly. | Jun 16 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Hard disk - On disc controller may be compromised from factory. | Jun 16 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Just about ANY chip that contains a known or unknown process controller may contain compromising logic, thus not necessarily code. So any chip wired to any important bus is suspect. | Jun 16 18:08 |
| r_schestowitz | So even if you got the source and binaries to check or even install it yourself. It may still be fucked. | Jun 16 18:08 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Perfection is the enemy of good." | Jun 16 18:08 |
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| r_schestowitz | Good enough: | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | single-topic paper ballots in transparent urns (multi-topic ballots allowed if selections are unambiguous). Counted in public by as many volunteers as you can find, in front of as many observers and cameras as people want. Results published in newspapers so that everyone can check that the polling place they audited matches the official reported count. | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | "yes, but the US has too many issues on the ballot, people can't read/disability/whatever": give people a touch screen, but print the selections legibly and drop in aforementioned urn. Compare the machine's results to the urn results any time enough volunteers agree that they want to count (they don't have to check every poll to find whether the machine lies). | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | Make sure that the room always contains at least one Hatfield and one McCoy, so they can never collude. | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | I'd ask why it's so hard to use common sense, but I think I know the answer. | Jun 16 18:09 |
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| r_schestowitz | Sigh, how many times do I have to point out source code is not pixie dust and in this case provides ZERO, let me repeat that ZERO protection and in this case makes exactly fuck all difference and I can prove this with simple common sense...ready? | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | What has every security expert taught from the dawn of time? "If they have control of the hardware the battle is over" which is why physical security is so important that many high security places use everything from airgaps to epoxy in USB ports to deny physical access.....well guess what? The potential threat HAS COMPLETE AND TOTAL PHYSICAL ACCESS which makes whether they hand you some source or not? Worth exactly fuck and all. Lets say | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | they DO hand you the source for whatever OS they are running, be it Windows, Linux, fuck OS/2 Warp...question....how EXACTLY are you gonna show THAT was the code running during the critical voting period? How EXACTLY do you know that they didn't simply insert some malware while it was under their control and simply remove it before letting you look at the machine? If its Linux how do you know they aren't simply using one of the many known | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | older exploits for the OS? Not like these things are using nightly releases with the latest patches ya know. Hell most of them that DO offer source sure as hell aren't gonna let you have physical access to the machine so they might as well have given you source for a VCR clock for all the "proof" it gives you! | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | This is something that FOSS fans really REALLY have a problem with, they simply cannot connect dots and tell the difference between security and security theater...after all you have the source for the TiVo, is it secure? You had the code for Bash for 17+ years...did that keep it from being exploited? Source code isn't pixie dust, it won't magically make anything more or less secure, it is nothing but the code that IF is the correct code | Jun 16 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | AND was not compiled with a malicious compiler will give you a program out the other end which you can compare to the source in your hand...that's it folks, that is ALL IT DOES and buying into the bullshit that when a potential bad actor has hardware control that source code makes that scenario safe? Well then you might as well buy every bit of security theater from the TSA to PATRIOT, because they are just as valid! | Jun 16 18:09 |
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| r_schestowitz | M$ seems convinced that if they allow their code to be examined, it will convince European governments that Redmond has no purposely-hackable holes built into their junk. | Jun 16 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft Opens Windows Source Code to EU Governments [petri.com] | Jun 16 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Responding to years-old complaints that its Windows operating systems may include secret “backdoors,” Microsoft this past week opened a Transparency Center in Brussels and invited EU governments to analyze its source code. | Jun 16 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | MICROS~1: Playing catch-up, as usual. | Jun 16 18:10 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://www.petri.com/no-back-doors-microsoft-opens-windows-source-code-to-eu-governments#post-63986 | Jun 16 18:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.petri.com | No Back Doors: Microsoft Opens Windows Source Code to EU Governments - Petri [ http://ur1.ca/mud2a ] | Jun 16 18:10 | |
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| r_schestowitz | It's about reducing the number of attack vectors. | Jun 16 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Using proprietary software for voting, you have to trust the software and the hardware and the people setting it up. | Jun 16 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Using open software, you need to only trust the hardware and the people setting it up. | Jun 16 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | If you could use open hardware too, you'd only need to trust the people setting it up. | Jun 16 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | So, if a citizen is concerned and wants to try to investigate the security of the system...right now they need the source code from Microsoft (good luck getting that!) -- and they need to trust that it's correct. They also need hardware schematics and firmware code from someone like Diebold (never gonna happen) -- and they need to trust THOSE are correct. Then on top of all that, they've gotta go get involved with the local elections | Jun 16 18:10 |
| r_schestowitz | commission to verify all of this is deployed and set up properly. But if we were using open hardware and open software, that would skip the first two requirements in that chain. You don't have to get code or schematics out some major corporation that isn't willing to give it up. You already have those parts. You just have to go make sure the local elections commission isn't making any changes while they set it all up. The former would need | Jun 16 18:11 |
| r_schestowitz | a large and powerful organization to verify; the latter could be done by a single committed individual. | Jun 16 18:11 |
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| r_schestowitz | "The government shouldn't even be using proprietary software, and especially not for something as important as voting. It's corporate welfare, restrictive, doesn't promote education, and you'll never really be able to check what it does or how it does it. You're beholden to some scummy corporation." | Jun 16 18:11 |
| r_schestowitz | "This is the US government, though: They're beholden to scummy corporations for almost everything, from bombers to drones to websites to roadways to space flight. Ever since Ronald Reagan, they've been positively allergic to the idea of hiring civil servants to do work for the public good." | Jun 16 18:11 |
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| r_schestowitz | No, it isn't that insidious. You had the embarrassing debacle of Florida in 2000 with all the butterfly ballots, hanging chads, recounts, not allowing recounts, etc. Clearly all this would never have happened if it was all electronic, etc., etc. This is the 21st Century and all; it's embarrassing that we're so behind the times, etc. We must do something! | Jun 16 18:11 |
| r_schestowitz | For the States that wanted to "modernize", the Fed gave them money (Help America Vote Act) to do so. In steps Diebold and other companies with solutions that are 90% there. All they need to do is tweak up their existing ATM machine code or whatever. That sounds like a great deal because if it is good enough for an ATM, then it must be good enough for voting, right? You have election officials with money to burn and vendors who claim they | Jun 16 18:12 |
| r_schestowitz | have COTS solutions to purchase. In my state you had an election official talking about how great these were, and when pressed on the issue of verifying whether the machines are accurate, she pointed out how easy it was to do a recount by clicking on the "Recount" button in the software. There's that whole "don't attribute to malice. . . ." saying that is appropriate here. | Jun 16 18:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Except that our system is so hopelessly corrupt, and our politicians always so 'conveniently' ignorant when it counts, that it is unreasonable to suggest that mere stupidity is a satisfactory explanation." | Jun 16 18:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Don't attribute to malice"?! Recount button, LOL. More appropriate is the saying America was founded on: "power corrupts". There is no reason to take anything on trust where verification is so relatively trivial. We should trust Diebold, when it would be so easy for them to hand over the source code? They think their precious proprietary secrets are more important than the integrity of our voting tabulation? They don't think copyright, as | Jun 16 18:12 |
| r_schestowitz | extreme as it is, is good enough for them? No way! We are the customers, and in this matter, it's our way or the highway. Hand over the source code and all other documentation, or we don't buy. That's the way it should be. | Jun 16 18:12 |
| r_schestowitz | It's like making a large cash purchase. Both sides count the money carefully, for several reasons. First is to make sure there aren't any mistakes. But also, it's to show that if any deliberate shortchanging is going on, it WILL be detected, so don't even think of trying it. | Jun 16 18:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | 1. Put names on a lot of pieces of paper. | Jun 16 18:13 |
| r_schestowitz | 2. Put an empty box with a hole in the top on a table somewhere. Confirm that it's empty in full view of everybody. | Jun 16 18:13 |
| r_schestowitz | 3. Voters come in, take a piece of paper, put a check next to the name of the person they want in each office, and put the paper in a box. | Jun 16 18:13 |
| r_schestowitz | 4. When the polls close, open the box in full view of everybody and count the votes by hand. | Jun 16 18:13 |
| r_schestowitz | The only useful electronic addition to this process is to use bubble-sheet versions of the paper ballots and count the bubble-sheet votes as voters are putting them into the box. And then compare the electronic count to the hand count in enough places to know the electronic count is accurate. I'd be supportive of making these electronic vote counters open source, but the very thing that makes computers useful tools (ease of changing data, | Jun 16 18:13 |
| r_schestowitz | and flexibility in what the computer does) are inherently bad for handling something that is supposed to be immutable, namely what each ballot said people wanted. | Jun 16 18:13 |
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| r_schestowitz | What he said. | Jun 16 18:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Auditing is possible, open and easy for most voters, if you use paper. For electronic vote, it's impossible for closed systems, practically impossible for open ones. | Jun 16 18:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Universal accessibility is a lot easier to assess when dealing with paper. If anything, we have extensive experience there. | Jun 16 18:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Paper is a lot harder to forge than electronic, it just scales harder. | Jun 16 18:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Counting electronic votes is potentially faster than paper, but counting paper votes takes just a couple of hours per circuit. It's well worth the effort. | Jun 16 18:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Electronic preliminary counting, and electronic gathering of results, that can be a good thing, but actual electronic ballots have no use for a democratic election. | Jun 16 18:14 |
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| r_schestowitz | That's how my state's voting works, pencil marks on scantron sheets fed into the machine, result available as quickly as someone wants to push a "results" button, paper ballots spot audited over the next week or so. If you incorrectly fill out your ballot the machine emits a foul noise and kicks the ballot back, or if accepted it emits two happy beeps and auto-ejects into a locked box for later auditing. | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Whenever voting comes up the comments are always hyper provincial, that the posters home state uses a windows PC intentionally designed to be unauditable, but there are numerous less brain dead states that don't have the slightest problem not using windows and auditing a proprietary system. | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm about 99% certain the antique scantron machines do NOT run windows. They are programmed using scan cards, and as kids we went to great effort (no longer needed online) to find out that the first card read at power up sets the program and/or key so theres no way to reprogram while in use. Of course times may have changed since 1990, but fundamentally they're pretty simple machines and .edu majors aren't the brightest so KISS principle | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | reigns. The public schools use the same scantron model machines for multiple guess tests, presumably piggy backed onto some giant state purchase contract. Presumably if thousands of high school kids can't hack the machines, tens of 80 year old voter overseer aren't going to figure it out. | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | The main way to hack an election locally is to get the illegal voters out, both outright illegals, and dead people and non-voters. I've pretty much stopped voting, anyone who wants to show up and vote for me, can. | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | I talked to a senior citizen vote helper and there is a lot of behind the scenes stuff for anti-fraud that is interesting. For example two old people sign off on packages of serial numbered sequential ballots, so if the right sigs aren't on a receipt then there are questions if that serial number range suddenly shows up at audit time, or shows up at the wrong facility. This leads to insane delays if a site runs out of ballots. Also they | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | shuffle and randomize packs of ballots at a time, then the old people add a new handwritten sequential number and log them, so if serial numbers 250-300 all show up in the system simultaneously at 7:59 right before polls close the shit will hit the fan, also if the old people signed off up to seq number 750 then anything found in the audit box over 800 would be kind of suspicious... | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Note that some cultures think honest elections are a universal good, whereas other cultural areas are going to see them as an impediment to be worked around, so the mere existence of proven long experienced ways to electronically run a fair election doesn't mean crooks will want them or do anything to encourage fair elections. | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | This also assumes elections mean anything other than tweedle dee vs tweedle dum, we have a one party system with two PR campaigns etc. In a lot of ways the primaries matter enormously more than the general elections, and of course some primaries are more important than others, etc. | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | I am just barely old enough to remember ancient mechanical voting machines from when my parents voted. Crazy things. Basically mechanical counters with hidden counts and lever interlocking systems, pull like ten little levers some interacting with each other then pull the big lever and hope for the best. The optical systems are much simpler and more reliable. | Jun 16 18:16 |
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| r_schestowitz | Are you suggesting that illegal immigrants routinely show up to the polls? Because that would make approximately no sense: illegal immigrants tend to do everything they can to avoid interacting with the government, because they know that to do so is to risk getting caught. | Jun 16 18:16 |
| r_schestowitz | As far as the dead people and non-voters showing up, you need to explain why there have been fewer than 20 cases of in-person voter fraud prosecuted in the last decade. If, for example, you're contending that there is a massively corrupt Democratic Party machine in Chicago, then why is it that Republican governor Bruce Rauner hasn't gone after it aggressively? | Jun 16 18:16 |
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| r_schestowitz | I have no real comment as to absolute level. As to relative level, yeah, I'd stand by those strategies being the best and most likely. | Jun 16 18:17 |
| r_schestowitz | Now if we had un-auditable windows PCs full of malware, then that would be the best bet, but not having them, the relatively best strategy is going to be as listed above. | Jun 16 18:17 |
| r_schestowitz | Aside from obvious legal hacks against the election process like gerrymandering. | Jun 16 18:17 |
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| r_schestowitz | "I looked into this quite a bit as my home state was trying to pass one of those voter ID measures a few years back. Nobody researching this issue has ever found even one single documented instance of this kind of voter fraud. People don't submit fraudulent votes in person, except by accident (ie, signing the wrong line in the poll book.) The risk is too high, and the reward of a single vote is far too low. " | Jun 16 18:17 |
| r_schestowitz | "There are other ways to hack an election, my government has been implementing them in the name of small government and stopping the non-existent voter fraud. Phone up people who are likely to vote for the opposition, tell them that their polling station has moved. Since they got caught last time, downsize the non-partisan election oversight and also ban them from even mentioning any investigations. Put polling stations in the right spots | Jun 16 18:18 |
| r_schestowitz | so it is easier for your supporters to vote and harder for the oppositions supporters to vote (in the name of saving money). I usually vote in the advance polls as being self-employed it is hard to find time to vote on election day. Last federal election the advance polling station was 30 miles away in the wrong direction, for the provincial election it was on the way to town and so easy to use. And last, go on about imaginary voter fraud | Jun 16 18:18 |
| r_schestowitz | and make onerous demands for ID. No more showing up with 2 pieces of government ID and a utility bill for my wife (who doesn't drive), now we have to spend $75 for another piece of ID, Provincial, because her federal picture ID doesn't have her address, nor does her provincial (medical) ID." | Jun 16 18:18 |
| r_schestowitz | "My personal experience, which is likely pretty normal, is you vote while in college and they have like two 90 year olds who are deaf in the basement of a 1000 person dorm complex only reachable by a locked door that is occasionally propped open and the oldest least reliable scanning machine in the fleet looks like someone tossed it down the stairs, and they tend to vote for the "D" PR team of the one-party. Vs in my 2nd/3rd richest subburb | Jun 16 18:19 |
| r_schestowitz | in the region and the polling place is 2 blocks away at the elementary school and they have 4 volunteers per roughly 300 person aldermanic district and a brand new vote scanning machine and they tend to vote "R". But we're all "equal" right?" | Jun 16 18:19 |
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| r_schestowitz | In my home state in 2004, I took strong notice of the fact that it took me approximately 20 minutes to vote in the mostly white genteel suburb, while a coworker of mine from a not-at-all-genteel urban precinct spent 2.5 hours waiting in line. And apparently it got worse in the not-at-all-genteel district as time went on. By complete coincidence, the secretary of state who controlled little details like how many voting machines were in which | Jun 16 18:20 |
| r_schestowitz | precincts just happened to be the state campaign manager for the Republican candidate for president. And the not-at-all-genteel urban precinct was chock full of die-hard Democrats. | Jun 16 18:20 |
| r_schestowitz | Another technique seen more recently: The secretary of state has the tie-breaking vote on all of the county-wide elections councils (which are evenly split between Democrats and Republicans) that determine when early voting is open. Ours was voting for extended hours in areas which tended to support his party, and really short hours in areas which tended to oppose his party, until a federal court ruled he couldn't do that. | Jun 16 18:20 |
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| r_schestowitz | Indeed. Whether a voting computer runs free software or proprietary software does not matter for the voters, because voters are not running the software on their own computer. | Jun 16 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | If the software is free, then others can make use of the four freedoms to change and modify that software to run on their own computers, and share the software with their friends. But none of that makes any difference at the election. The issues are entirely different. | Jun 16 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | We must reject voting computers outright, except that using computers to assist with counting paper ballots is acceptable. | Jun 16 18:21 |
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| r_schestowitz | That's simply incorrect. Being able to verify what the machine is doing and what code it's running is very important, because voting affects us all. It doesn't matter if it happens on our own computers or not; software freedom is important in government. | Jun 16 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | It should simply be illegal for the government to use proprietary software. If existing free software doesn't do the job, it could do the world a favor by creating it and releasing it as free software. | Jun 16 18:21 |
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| r_schestowitz | There is no multi-million dollar contract in paper ballots for anyone. There is for electronic voting. | Jun 16 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Really, though, electronic voting makes formal what most American voters have suspected for a long time, that voting for change is a scam, and that voting only exists to fabricate the illusion of consent. With electronic voting, there remains no way for citizens to challenge the assumption of the legitimacy of the vote. There's no way to verify the ballot trail, there are no recounts. | Jun 16 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | There's also the second dimension, that of the Citizens United decision, which redoubles the illegitimacy of voting in America. Layer that on top of the sham of electronic voting and you have more grievance than the Founding Fathers ever had to form the United States of America in the first place. | Jun 16 18:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Citizens can either choose to swallow the lie of voting wholesale, knowingly, or they can rouse themselves to the difficult but necessary task of rebooting the entire political system. | Jun 16 18:21 |
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| r_schestowitz | I estimate that over 10,00 people have read the articles now and there were also discussions about it, the latest being in https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/06/14/221221 | Jun 16 18:25 |
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| r_schestowitz | Question to Americans out there: how do you turn this into an "issue", i.e. extend the debate from the geeky techy media to mainstream media (doesn't have to be regular corporate media like Fox, but something like BBC, which seems to get lots of US folks, or equvalent). Can it be pushed to Microsoft competitor news sites like Yahoo or whatever? Any of you have contacts there which can push it? | Jun 16 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Seems like California is the one place where if Microsoft wins, you US techy types are completely hopeless. I mean, the home of Google et al, run by Microsoft? | Jun 16 18:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Wringing your hands and saying aint it bad is pointless. Mumbling about armed insurrection is farcical. | Jun 16 18:27 |
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| r_schestowitz | Opt out and don't vote. It works for me. I feel no need to participate in a system that pragmatically leads to awful results. There's a libertarian quote out there along the lines of if I want an apple, don't make me vote for vanilla ice cream or chocolate ice cream then lie to me that I got my choice so I have to be happy about it and describe it as the best political system evar. | Jun 16 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Eventually voting will end up like major league baseball. Vaguely generally about 80% of the population are baseball fans by some trivial definition of fan, but only 5% of the population actually watches the world series and even less truly care. Eventually they round down to nothing and no longer matter. See also newspaper editorials and fox news style agitprop infotainment. | Jun 16 18:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Think how much better politicians would behave if only 10% of the population voted. Every time they pick their nose, they'd have to worry that if just a little more than 1 in 20 of the non-voters got pissed off, a non-D or non-R could numerically get elected to replace them... | Jun 16 18:28 |
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| r_schestowitz | Many people here in Alberta used to think the exact same thing as you just did. Baby Boomer demographics seemed to dictate that we would have the same party in power as had always been in power. Why bother voting, it's never going to make a difference, etc. Voter apathy was rampant. | Jun 16 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | A single party had ruled for 44 years. Majority rule by the same party for that long is effectively a dictatorship. The media was even talking about the election of their party leader as a "Coronation"! | Jun 16 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Then came the election of 2015. We Kicked out a 44 year political dynasty [globalnews.ca] in the biggest electoral shakeup in North American history. Many voters didn't believe it would happen, Many people woke up the next morning wondering if it was actually a dream. | Jun 16 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Apparently democracy can actually work! Granted, things are a little more sane here in Canada, with several political parties to choose from, not just two like our choice-challenged neighbours to the south seem to have. | Jun 16 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Think how much better politicians would behave if only 10% of the population voted. Every time they pick their nose, they'd have to worry that if just a little more than 1 in 20 of the non-voters got pissed off, a non-D or non-R could numerically get elected to replace them... | Jun 16 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Defeatist attitudes like yours are what allows the system you are so frustrated with to continue. You say "Opt out and don't vote", then extoll the virtues of high voter turnout... the irony is palpable. The current system might "pragmatically lead to awful results", but (at least to you) not voting demonstrably does. | Jun 16 18:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Nothing could make fans of the status quo happier than you not voting and not expressing your opinion at the ballot box. Since you are obviously frustrated with the current state of things, I don't understand why you want to make them happy by not voting. | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Even a so-called "Useless" vote for a never-to-be-elected third party can drive policy as the mainstream candidates woo those votes for themselves. | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | YOUR VOTE MATTERS. It is the easiest, simplest means to express yourself politically there is in a democracy. You don't honestly think that politicians would spend all that corporate money trying to buy something worthless do you? | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Even the most cynical people out there, who feel like "a revolution is coming" or "dictatorship/corporatocracy is inevitable" should vote. If for no other reason than (as the quote so accurately says): | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -- Edmund Burke | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Voting is not nothing. | Jun 16 18:30 |
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| r_schestowitz | YOUR VOTE MATTERS. | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | No, it doesn't. Not in America. The federal government has completely changed hands twice since 2000. Nothing has changed in the policy trajectory. There has been not even a small inflection in the downward slide of the middle class, and the stratospheric accretion of the fortunes of the ultra-wealthy. The CIA has tortured people to death. The NSA has unilaterally blown the 4th Amendment away (as written, it's supposed to be hard to change | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | the Constitution, isn't it?). The biggest banks on Wall Street were all caught red-handed in the LIBOR scandal and all of them are still in business, and their CEOs did not go to prison. Classes of citizens have not yet been rounded up en masse and sent to camps (Note: I said 'citizens' and not 'people,' because getting rounded up does happen to illegal immigrants), but things could hardly be worse for a country that once called itself, " | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Land of the Free, Home of the Brave." | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Now, not voting does not mean doing nothing. Doing nothing is bad, and we can all agree with that as a more general statement. But voting is a complete waste of time, money, and effort when the system is this broken. Doing something that is not voting to change the status quo is vital. There are many people in America who have the skills to do something. I submit that what is now required in America is a revolution, as defined [merriam- | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | webster.com]: | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Full Definition of REVOLUTION: | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | 2 | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | a : a sudden, radical, or complete change | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | b : a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | c : activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation | Jun 16 18:30 |
| r_schestowitz | d : a fundamental change in the way of thinking about or visualizing something : a change of paradigm | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Men and women of honor must act to effect that "sudden, radical, or complete change." It can mean writing software (Linus Torvalds is an example). It can mean starting a social enterprise or business that radically disintermediates the guardians of the status quo (by this definition, Elon Musk has done that to the auto, oil, and power industries). It can mean exposing the criminals at the very heart of the system (Snowden). It can take a | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | lot of forms, but it must be done and we all must do it. | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | God willing, that will be enough to close down the First American Republic and bring about the much improved American Republic 2.0. | Jun 16 18:31 |
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| r_schestowitz | It's obvious from you're comments that you feel completely disenfranchised, and I can't say I disagree with your reasons. The trends that you speak of are definitely real, and your political process is in definite need of some reform. | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | That said, you are wrong about your vote. Actually getting out and voting can be a revolutionary act. If the 40% to 45% of Americans like yourself who decide not to vote actually exercised that right, you would have your revolution. | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | All it requires of you is a little of your time. You don't even have to sacrifice anything, and the system is already in place to effect the change you're looking for. | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | No violence, risk to life and freedom, or even extraordinary effort, required. Just excercise your rights! Imagine how different the political landscape in the USA would be if people got as excited about their right to vote as they do about their right to bear arms! | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | I would like to introduce the mechanism of your revolution to you. It is called "Vote Splitting" [wikipedia.org]. You may not have heard of it before, but it's a common thing in countries with more than Two political parties. | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Lets do some math. According to some sources [wikipedia.org], you have a voter turnout of about 55%, so we'll work with that. Let's call the two major parties A (51% of the vote) and B (49% of the vote). That means that 28% of the eligible population voted for A, and about 27% of the voting population voted for B. Now, assume that a Independent candidate C runs, and really appeals to all those who didn't vote before. With a 100% voter | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | turnout, Candidate C could get 45% of the vote, and win easily! | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Now, obviously a 100% voter turnout is unrealistic, and the other parties would probably benefit some too. The point is that it is possible. As part of the established political process, the roadmap is even there for how it works, and a smooth transition of power would be probable. (Either that, or the people who really run the show would be forced into the open... probably precipitating the armed revolution you seem to expect.) | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | All it requires is an abolition of apathy, and overthrowing the defeatist attitude of the disenfranchised like yourself. | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Effecting real policy change doesn't even require voter turnout that extreme. As I said in my other post, when third-party or independent candidates start to get popular, the mainstream candidates shift their policies to attract those votes. | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Seriously, get out and vote. Vote for a third-party, and encourage everyone else to do the same. Voter apathy is one of the root causes of the mess you're in, and your participation can help fix it. | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | If you and the other ~45% of the population can't take a couple of hours every couple years to engage with your political process now, your "American Republic 2.0" will probably end up as much a "Republic" (and just as "Democratic") as the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" [wikipedia.org] | Jun 16 18:31 |
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| r_schestowitz | "That would be awesome. Then Goldman Sachs would have to donate to three candidates instead of two. Oooh imagine the hope and change we'd get." | Jun 16 18:31 |
| r_schestowitz | "So many words, so much ignorance of Duverger's law." | Jun 16 18:32 |
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| r_schestowitz | Apparently democracy can actually work! Granted, things are a little more sane here in Canada, with several political parties to choose from, not just two like our choice-challenged neighbours to the south seem to have. | Jun 16 18:32 |
| r_schestowitz | We often have over a dozen choices on the ballot down here. You've got the green party, the libertarians, the socialists, the justice party...lots of choices. But nobody will vote for them because they "can't win" because nobody votes for them. Instead we swallow the media lie that the Republicrats are the only party that exists and that a vote for Lucifer is better than a vote for Satan. | Jun 16 18:32 |
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| r_schestowitz | You're playing into their hands by not voting. Even showing up and spoiling your ballot is better as the entrenched interests only want supporters showing up and voting. | Jun 16 18:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Seems in America you can have more influence on who the 2 parties nominate, which is an improvement to here. | Jun 16 18:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Find something immoral especially regarding SEX on those politicians that are in M$ pockets. It seems to be what works but it's not directly a sign of good debate." | Jun 16 18:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | The information is out there. It is presented from many points of view, and it's available to anyone who cares to look at it. Mainstream Media doesn't even bother trying to squash the information, because people just don't look. | Jun 16 18:33 |
| r_schestowitz | http://original.livestream.com/freedomtv [livestream.com] | Jun 16 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-original.livestream.com | FREEDOM.TV - live streaming video powered by Livestream | Jun 16 18:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.freespeech.org/ [freespeech.org] | Jun 16 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.freespeech.org | Free Speech TV | Jun 16 18:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.projectcensored.org/ [projectcensored.org] | Jun 16 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.projectcensored.org | Project Censored — The News that Didn't Make the News and Why | Jun 16 18:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://oathkeepers.net/ [oathkeepers.net] | Jun 16 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-oathkeepers.net | Oath Keepers Forum and State chapters | Jun 16 18:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | I can continue for awhile, without even hitting any of the crazy conspiracy sites. There are sites out there, presenting their versions of the truth. I don't believe that ANY site has "THE TRUTH" - there is no messiah to deliver us, there is no charismatic leader, there is no organization with all the secrets. But, there are plenty of people who offer truth, who offer parts of the truth. | Jun 16 18:33 |
| r_schestowitz | But, the masses are so interested in Hollyweird's extravaganzas, they don't have time to even think about real life. | Jun 16 18:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Visit Youtube, and search for videos of polls. It's downright embarrasing, I swear that these people are more closely related to monkeys than any sapient race . . . | Jun 16 18:33 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E [youtube.com] | Jun 16 18:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Politically-Challenged: Texas Tech Edition - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/muda8 ] | Jun 16 18:33 | |
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| r_schestowitz | Well somehow Snowden managed to hit a lot of headlines. I don't know how it is in the US, but in UK it is a pretty big deal - still hitting top headlines every now and then. You probably need a reportable event that you can put in front of the media, even if it is just a report being issued or something. Maybe need to get some comment from a respected international organisation like those mentioned here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | Jun 16 18:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jun 16 18:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | Election_monitoring [wikipedia.org] | Jun 16 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | Talking to the folks being elected may help also. They probably don't care if they can rig the votes, they might be more worried if The Other Side can rig the votes... | Jun 16 18:34 |
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| r_schestowitz | Yep, this is it. If any nationwide attention is to be brought to this, it's gonna be muh Snowden and muh government spying and manipulating. | Jun 16 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that the NSA or other rogue elements within the government were already electronically manipulating votes, although the way the corporate Jew media is doing it should already be considered criminal. And there's not much we can do until we have proof. | Jun 16 18:34 |
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| r_schestowitz | Visit Youtube, and search for videos of polls. It's downright embarrasing, I swear that these people are more closely related to monkeys than any sapient race . . . | Jun 16 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | " rel="url2html-25009">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E | Jun 16 18:34 |
| r_schestowitz | The problem with these sorts of videos is that they usually only show the people who make fools of themselves. I have no doubt a lot of people are morons, but these sorts of things don't show the whole picture. | Jun 16 18:34 |
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| r_schestowitz | Visit Youtube, and search for videos of polls. It's downright embarrasing, I swear that these people are more closely related to monkeys than any sapient race . . . | Jun 16 18:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " rel="url2html-25009">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E | Jun 16 18:35 |
| r_schestowitz | The problem with these sorts of videos is that they usually only show the people who make fools of themselves. I have no doubt a lot of people are morons, but these sorts of things don't show the whole picture. | Jun 16 18:35 |
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| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TriumphCIO: Majority of websites have serious, unfixed vulnerabilities http://t.co/zSZS6LXdLC… RT @@schestowitz #CIO #CTO #govCIO #security | Jun 17 10:45 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6231846 | Jun 17 18:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Olympic-standard shotput ball has arrived. Tomorrow if it's sunny it might be time to give it a shot... | Jun 17 18:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 17 18:40 |
| r_schestowitz | :D | Jun 17 18:40 |
| r_schestowitz | Mind the windows.. | Jun 17 18:40 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6233587 | Jun 17 19:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jeb Bush: Next President Should Privatize Social Security http://www.ibtimes.com/jeb-bush-next-president-should-privatize-social-security-1969720 wow, it DOES get worse. #bush | Jun 17 19:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Jeb is near the bottom of my list as far as GOP candidates are concerned but I'm not so sure he's wrong about this one. Between an individual and their employer, the government takes a huge chunk of money for social security. Yet instead of having some sort of fund, that money is immediately borrowed via bond purchase and put into the general tax fund. And it's hard to trust a government with your money running at the kind of debt levels | Jun 17 19:09 |
| r_schestowitz | they do. I would be far more comfortable managing that money myself." | Jun 17 19:09 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/611220225133019137 | Jun 17 19:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kstallett: @UKinNewYork @schestowitz @Expo2015Milano @UKPavilion2015 @UKTIUSA @UKTI Where does Britain grow Cacao? | Jun 17 19:30 | |
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| roy__ | https://twitter.com/m_msolution/status/611700024641232896 | Jun 19 09:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@m_msolution: @schestowitz thanks for sharing Dr. Roy Schestowitz, have a great Friday :) (insight by http://t.co/KSWcMIszHk) | Jun 19 09:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commun.it | Twitter Community Management Dashboard | Twitter Marketing Tool | Commun.it | Jun 19 09:46 | |
| roy__ | https://twitter.com/Luisja_350/status/611789767206961152 | Jun 19 09:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Luisja_350: @schestowitz 99%? I would say less than 5%, according to people knowledge about these matters. | Jun 19 09:47 | |
| roy__ | People in FB photograph and write about everyone around them, upload that stuff | Jun 19 09:47 |
| roy__ | Also, Facebook tracks everyone even non-useds [sic] | Jun 19 09:47 |
| roy__ | https://twitter.com/Luisja_350/status/611819628378128384 | Jun 19 10:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Luisja_350: @schestowitz I was referring to "#wikileaks made the 99%...", indeed they do, but I bet less than 5% knows about it. So... | Jun 19 10:02 | |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6237730 | Jun 19 10:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Unless this photo is fake, we may be seeing the funeral of #blackberry OS http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/06/blackberry-ltd-passport-seen-running-on-android-report/ | Jun 19 10:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.valuewalk.com | BlackBerry Ltd Passport Seen Running On Android [REPORT] [ http://ur1.ca/mv8wq ] | Jun 19 10:24 | |
| roy__ | "QNX is much less of a resource hog than the Linux kernel is." | Jun 19 10:24 |
| roy__ | True, but devices have swollen up to be able to deal with a lot more, and they have more features, inc. hardware acceleration | Jun 19 10:25 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238316 | Jun 19 10:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Joyent hits the sweet spot between containers, VMs for #Ubuntu http://www.infoworld.com/article/2937694/application-virtualization/joyent-hits-the-sweet-spot-between-containers-vms-for-ubuntu.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/18/joyent_meets_docker/ http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2015/06/18/joyent-adds-non-docker-services-triton-container-cloud/ | Jun 19 10:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.infoworld.com | Joyent hits the sweet spot between containers, VMs for Ubuntu | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/mvcue ] | Jun 19 10:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theregister.co.uk | Joyent and Umbongo union jilts VM at cloud altar • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/mvcuf ] | Jun 19 10:25 | |
| roy__ | "^^^ Get on the Hype Train ^^^" | Jun 19 10:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.datacenterknowledge.com | Joyent Adds Non-Docker Services to Triton Container Cloud | Data Center Knowledge [ http://ur1.ca/mvcuh ] | Jun 19 10:25 | |
| roy__ | http://i.giphy.com/hnPmvWjMUgfsY.gif | Jun 19 10:25 |
| roy__ | Are containers all hype? | Jun 19 10:25 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238569 | Jun 19 10:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's Been Three Years Since Linus Torvalds' Huge NVIDIA Rant http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Linux-Rant-Three-Years #nvidia #tegra still a pile of rubbish. Avoid. | Jun 19 10:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | It's Been Three Years Since Linus Torvalds' Huge NVIDIA Rant - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/mv8w6 ] | Jun 19 10:26 | |
| roy__ | "Linux could indeed find a lot of success if they focus on a much-ignored market for small, fanless PCs which connect to the TV for instance like the old Commodore machines used to. ARM would obviously be a part of that, especially if the GPU used is fully-free." | Jun 19 10:26 |
| roy__ | Linux is already dominant in such devices, e.g. PVRs | Jun 19 10:26 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238485 | Jun 19 10:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Alienware - like #dell - beholden to #microsoft http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alienware-Takes-Steam-Machine-to-E3-2015-But-It-s-Running-Windows-484574.shtml not shocking http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Dell | Jun 19 10:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Alienware Takes Steam Machine to E3 2015, but It's Running Windows - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mv8u0 ] | Jun 19 10:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Dell - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ebpft ] | Jun 19 10:27 | |
| roy__ | "Which will encourage companies such as Ubisoft, Electronic Arts, Capcom and Bethesda to release their stuff on Linux if it ends up being successful. Until that happens, The Elder Scrolls, Assassin's Creed, Need for Speed and Resident Evil remain on Windows exclusively." | Jun 19 10:27 |
| roy__ | The leading Steam games are all available for GNU/Linux now | Jun 19 10:28 |
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| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238569 | Jun 20 05:55 |
| roy__ | "What I'm proposing is slightly different. Think of the old Commodore and Atari ST computers. They were all within a keyboard. Now imagine selling such a keyboard as a TV remote control. It would come with wireless HDMI connector which a user would plug to their TV and it would communicate with a Linux-powered computer a user would keep in his hands. That computer would use the television as a monitor and would allow them to do much of everything a | Jun 20 05:55 |
| roy__ | person can do with a computer from the comfort of their living room." | Jun 20 05:55 |
| roy__ | PS3 did this a long time ago with YDL. | Jun 20 05:55 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238956 | Jun 20 05:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In the #uk it is very rare to see #police with weapons (esp. so in #manchester but maybe not in London), exceptionally rare for non-cops | Jun 20 05:56 | |
| roy__ | "I like that way, usually the people smart enough to handle guns properly are the ones not willing to have one." | Jun 20 05:56 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6233587 | Jun 20 05:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jeb Bush: Next President Should Privatize Social Security http://www.ibtimes.com/jeb-bush-next-president-should-privatize-social-security-1969720 wow, it DOES get worse. #bush | Jun 20 05:57 | |
| roy__ | "WTF are you talking about? The stock market is higher now that it has ever been. Besides, social security is a long term investment and would/should be invested very conservatively. Personally, I would rather keep those taxes and invest them how I want instead of the government deciding how it is done for me." | Jun 20 05:57 |
| roy__ | "Now, sure. But in 2008, just think about all the savings and/or SS income many retirees depend on that would have been wiped out." | Jun 20 05:57 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6240287 | Jun 20 05:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pope Francis vs. vampire capitalism: The real reason why his #climatechange encyclical is revolutionary http://www.salon.com/2015/06/18/pope_francis_vs_vampire_capitalism_the_real_reason_why_his_climate_change_encyclical_is_revolutionary/ | Jun 20 05:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.salon.com | Pope Francis vs. vampire capitalism: The real reason why his climate-change encyclical is revolutionary - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/mvnag ] | Jun 20 05:58 | |
| roy__ | "This is the same asshole calling on a One World government to make sure that the planet is protected. As a supporter of software which makes sure that control is never in the hands of the few, I find your support of this man quite alarming." | Jun 20 05:58 |
| roy__ | "Vatican is a city-state. The climate change talk is playing ball to ensure their piece of the pie in the NWO. No one of significance is fighting NWO. Russia, China all want in, albeit fighting for a larger role than they have been pre-assigned. Their "multi-polar" world is just BRICS doing an end run." | Jun 20 05:59 |
| roy__ | I support the Vatican? LOL! | Jun 20 05:59 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238000 | Jun 20 06:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #JavaScript is not evil in its own right. It's just what the ads/surveillance industry turned it into that makes it so. #librejs | Jun 20 06:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | "More like Geocities. I had one of those once." | Jun 20 06:40 |
| r_schestowitz | Mine died after Microsoft killed Yahoo! | Jun 20 06:40 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238316 | Jun 20 06:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Joyent hits the sweet spot between containers, VMs for #Ubuntu http://www.infoworld.com/article/2937694/application-virtualization/joyent-hits-the-sweet-spot-between-containers-vms-for-ubuntu.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/18/joyent_meets_docker/ http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2015/06/18/joyent-adds-non-docker-services-triton-container-cloud/ | Jun 20 06:42 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.infoworld.com | Joyent hits the sweet spot between containers, VMs for Ubuntu | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/mvcue ] | Jun 20 06:42 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theregister.co.uk | Joyent and Umbongo union jilts VM at cloud altar • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/mvcuf ] | Jun 20 06:42 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Not all hype, the tech is proven since it's been in BSD for decades. Hype is the fact that all commercial cloud hosting companies (mine included) have launched a "container platform" because the keywords bring in more customers because...HYPE! Personally I love Joyent. They do some cutting edge stuff." | Jun 20 06:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.datacenterknowledge.com | Joyent Adds Non-Docker Services to Triton Container Cloud | Data Center Knowledge [ http://ur1.ca/mvcuh ] | Jun 20 06:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6241924 | Jun 20 06:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just because there's abundance of water doesn't mean leave shower on after use. Both women's and men's changing room had them left on today. | Jun 20 06:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Such people honestly disgust me." | Jun 20 06:43 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6237730 | Jun 20 06:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Unless this photo is fake, we may be seeing the funeral of #blackberry OS http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/06/blackberry-ltd-passport-seen-running-on-android-report/ | Jun 20 06:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.valuewalk.com | BlackBerry Ltd Passport Seen Running On Android [REPORT] [ http://ur1.ca/mv8wq ] | Jun 20 06:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Which come at the expense of battery life..." | Jun 20 06:45 |
| r_schestowitz | For battery life we need to get back to phones, not all that 'smart' phone nonsense - devices that can basically make phonecalls, albeit I have the tracking by triangulation from the towers | Jun 20 06:45 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/612133383255109632?t=1&cn=bWVudGlvbg%3D%3D&sig=7da9d34150e6511a65e0b3fb804fe5c80d58e622&al=1&refsrc=email&iid=c9f55d186f2e47e2b63e8bc5dc8fe472&autoactions=1434778946&uid=26603208&nid=4+1267 | Jun 20 06:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: Could it be the Linux Foundation is #OpenWashing mercenaries of proprietary software, fiends of #FOSS? @schestowitz https://t.co/ihJ33tz6ay | Jun 20 06:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linuxfoundation: Linux kernel developer work spaces video: K.Y. Srinivasan of @Microsoft http://t.co/JLSXRyx1vG http://t.co/xQnrymVsMa | Jun 20 06:48 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6245538 | Jun 20 18:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: America hates its whistle-blowers: The tortured legacy of Edward #Snowden http://www.salon.com/2015/06/13/america_hates_its_whistleblowers_the_tortured_legacy_of_edward_snowden_partner/ by David Sirota | Jun 20 18:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 18:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.salon.com | America hates its whistle-blowers: The tortured legacy of Edward Snowden - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/mvteq ] | Jun 20 18:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | Thanks, interestng article. | Jun 20 18:45 |
| r_schestowitz | If I may bring my 'pet peeve', I wish David Sirota had instead gotten the article title to be 'USA hates its whistle-blowers'. Because America is a continent, a land area, while United States of America is a formal organization that was constituted in the 1700s, and that's in principle not very different from The Coca-Cola Company. I've even seen that USA refers to its president as its CEO. | Jun 20 18:45 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 18:45 |
| r_schestowitz | Can't educate writers too much all at once ;-) | Jun 20 18:45 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6244843 | Jun 20 18:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: According to Sueddeutsche Zeitung, #NATO expansion in #ukraine is now motovating #russia to increase size of nuclear arsenal. Great! :-( | Jun 20 18:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 18:47 |
| r_schestowitz | "The British began to pull back, realising that the Albanian operation – codenamed ‘Valuable’ – was anything but and risked fuelling Stalin’s paranoia. Britain, having initially feared American disengagement from Europe and a return to isolationism, was also beginning to worry that perhaps the Americans were a bit too reckless and might start a war, a war in which London, not Washington, would be obliterated." | Jun 20 18:47 |
| r_schestowitz | Gordon Corera - The Art of Betrayal- The Secret History of MI6 | Jun 20 18:47 |
| r_schestowitz | Reading it now - very interesting. | Jun 20 18:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 18:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 18:48 |
| r_schestowitz | "Stalin’s paranoia" - it wasn't paranoia, as the book shows. | Jun 20 18:48 |
| r_schestowitz | It also shows that our rulers obsession with Russia goes back to the 19th century and the "Great Game" - "communism" just, sort of, legitimised their aggression. | Jun 20 18:48 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 18:48 |
| r_schestowitz | "It's surprising how Europeans do not understand they are being used as a shield by the US for not getting all the Russian nukes.' | Jun 20 18:48 |
| r_schestowitz | Like Scotland in the UK (all the nukes are there) | Jun 20 18:48 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238485 | Jun 20 18:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Alienware - like #dell - beholden to #microsoft http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alienware-Takes-Steam-Machine-to-E3-2015-But-It-s-Running-Windows-484574.shtml not shocking http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Dell | Jun 20 18:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Alienware Takes Steam Machine to E3 2015, but It's Running Windows - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mv8u0 ] | Jun 20 18:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Dell - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ebpft ] | Jun 20 18:49 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6244824 | Jun 20 18:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #nsa does not need #backdoor at #duckduckgo - it already has that: it's called #aws (whose loyalties are known). #duckdoor #amazon #cia | Jun 20 18:55 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I use yandex now" | Jun 20 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | As long as you don't travel to Russia... ;-) | Jun 20 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6189977 | Jun 20 18:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Using #ixquick (Startpage) for #privacy looks possible... as long as you disable #javascript (G) and never click "Images" (Microsoft). Sad. | Jun 20 18:55 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Why have I never seen these ads? Are you using a phone app? Get a real computer, and go to eu.ixquick.com. What do you see? I'm really beginning to wonder if you have a serious adware infection. Of course, if you're using a phone to look at the internet, the infection's built-in. Come on, you're using an Android phone, right? So that means no matter what site you look at, you're using Google." | Jun 20 18:55 |
| r_schestowitz | I use GNU/Linux desktop. now the eu subsite of ixquick. | Jun 20 18:56 |
| r_schestowitz | "All the smaller projects should also do so. Many packages on slackbuilds.org are linked to sourceforge. Same with Linux From Scratch :-/" | Jun 20 18:57 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6245378 | Jun 20 18:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why big open-source projects are fleeing SourceForge's free software hub http://www.pcworld.com/article/2938017/why-big-open-source-projects-are-fleeing-sourceforges-free-software-hub.html bye bye http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SourceForge | Jun 20 18:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.pcworld.com | Why big open-source projects are fleeing SourceForge's free software hub | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/mvtgj ] | Jun 20 18:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | SourceForge - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mo6sj ] | Jun 20 18:57 | |
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| r_schestowitz | The legislatures that create international law are often as democratic or more democratic than national governments. E.g., the European Parliament. | Jun 20 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | Aren't you really opposed to statutory law, per se? | Jun 20 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6245420 | Jun 20 20:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Mass #Surveillance Violates International #Law http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2015/06/mass_surveillance_violates_international_law_david_kaye_s_report_to_the.html for those who bother obeying it... | Jun 20 20:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.slate.com | Mass surveillance violates international law: David Kaye’s report to the United Nation’s Human Rights Council. [ http://ur1.ca/mvtm9 ] | Jun 20 20:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | The legislatures that create international law are often as democratic or more democratic than national governments. E.g., the European Parliament. | Jun 20 20:51 |
| r_schestowitz | Aren't you really opposed to statutory law, per se? | Jun 20 20:51 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6246018 | Jun 20 20:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: OK, I'm done for good with #ixquick / #startpage because now they transmit all my search terms to #google #prism (for ads). Alternatives? | Jun 20 20:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | "goodsearch where you can donate to good causes don`t know about how private it is though" | Jun 20 20:52 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 20:52 |
| r_schestowitz | just seen this one might be of interest | Jun 20 20:52 |
| r_schestowitz | http://ninjacloak.com/ | Jun 20 20:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ninjacloak.com | NO TITLE | Jun 20 20:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 20:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I need a tool with broad reach to many pages that doesn't expose my search terms... I used to use Scroogle for a long time, but it died. | Jun 20 20:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Isn't Kate tired of popping them out yet? | Jun 20 20:53 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6246490 | Jun 20 20:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Liz needs to tell her grandson to make another royal baby to entertain (distract) the peasants with. #austerity #uk | Jun 20 20:53 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Isn't Kate tired of popping them out yet?" | Jun 20 20:53 |
| r_schestowitz | they can speed it up with some c sections... | Jun 20 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | We just bought new, long, high-quality curtains in M&S for the second room. It was discounted from 80 pounds to 14. | Jun 14 10:56 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/paulhindes/status/610041392598007808 | Jun 14 11:12 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6213988 | Jun 14 13:00 |
| schestowitz | "I really do despise framing mental-health issues as a choice. Though, I suppose I do sort of make a choice. I choose to stay inside rather than letting the assholes in the world get me down. I do wonder what the guy on the right is on, though. Hopefully, he's not going to have to get a drug test in the near future." | Jun 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz | External factors, like a work environment, don't make it a choice | Jun 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz | Unless the choice is not to go to work, which leads to other stress sources, like financial stresses and lack of productivity, mockery from the media | Jun 14 13:01 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6189977 | Jun 14 13:03 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 14 13:03 |
| schestowitz | For the last 4 months or so, I've used ixquick exclusively. I see no ads. Not from Google; not from anyone. I used to use Startpage. I've never seen an ad there either. | Jun 14 13:03 |
| schestowitz | Just tried it with Konqueror. Don't see ads there either. | Jun 14 13:03 |
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| schestowitz | The browsers block these | Jun 14 13:03 |
| schestowitz | I've used ixquick for about 3 years, the ads were added last year IIRC | Jun 14 13:04 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DieZauberer/status/610079397194952704 | Jun 14 13:42 |
| schestowitz | No, if the docs have a list of assets, then OPM crack not needed | Jun 14 13:43 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/DieZauberer/status/610080902316720128 | Jun 14 13:49 |
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| schestowitz | Tony Mobily wrote on 14/06/15 16:45:> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/simple_guide_bitcoins_using_electrum | Jun 14 16:42 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 14 16:42 |
| schestowitz | > Bitcoin is the most established digital currency available today. It | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > provides a safe, anonymous way to send and receive a virtual currency | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > everybody trusts. However, managing bitcoins is not quite as simple as | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > managing a bank account. <a | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > href="http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/simple_guide_bitcoins_using_electrum">In | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > this article I will explain how to manage your bitcoins using | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > Electrum</a>. Please note that in this article I will provide working | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > knowledge of how to use Electrum, without entering the mysterious land | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > of cryptography and technical details of Bitcoin. | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | > (Howto, Linux) | Jun 14 16:43 |
| schestowitz | Someone else has reported this kind of issue as well, so we know it's not affecting only you. I think that without Mollon we'd be flooded by spam, so I'll see what else can be used. | Jun 14 16:43 |
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| r_schestowitz | "a legend in the making..." | Jun 15 11:07 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/mikec1972/status/610402965363535872 | Jun 15 11:07 |
| r_schestowitz | Maybe veteran one... though I doubt it... | Jun 15 11:07 |
| r_schestowitz | "early days, more technical than i imagined." | Jun 15 11:16 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/06/14/221221 | Jun 16 17:03 |
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| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:06 |
| r_schestowitz | "gewg_" writes: | Jun 16 17:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Roy Schestowitz at TechRights reports: | Jun 16 17:06 |
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| r_schestowitz | Microsoft is the devil in the digital world. Apple is only a major demon. Google a lesser demon. Thankfully, SCO is pretty much a dead demon. | Jun 16 17:06 |
| r_schestowitz | Dealing with Microsoft in any way, shape, or form is always detrimental to all parties except Microsoft. MS OS's have always been the most easily exploited OS's in the world. Anything more easily exploited has simply been thrown in the trash bin over time. Any damned fools who actually PAY for MS licenses, and expect to be secure, fully deserve what they get. | Jun 16 17:06 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm nauseated when I have to use an electronic ballot, and I see Microsoft logos on the screen, and Microsoft literature laying on the table for the technician to read. I get positively ill just thinking about it. | Jun 16 17:06 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.infoworld.com/article/2681548/application-development/china-gets-access-to-microsoft-source-code.html [infoworld.com] | Jun 16 17:06 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:06 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.infoworld.com | China gets access to Microsoft source code | InfoWorld | Jun 16 17:07 | |
| r_schestowitz | "It's entirely the greedy corporations fault, cos the corrupt government officials responsible for awarding the contract to Microsoft had no choice... they were forced to take the bribes and favors." | Jun 16 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | "It's the fault of both, of course.' | Jun 16 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | "" | Jun 16 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | You're right that for the most part the government officials had no choice. The decision to privatize comes from the top. Its the legislators' fault for removing the power from the hands of the people and placing it in the hands of corporations; its also the fault of the idiot public for cheering on their representatives as they lose more and more of the authority, checks & balances, and transparency they once had over their delegates." | Jun 16 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | "Somebody forgot to close a taggy? (I'm beginning to detect a pattern! ;)" | Jun 16 17:07 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | It is widely known, however, that voting machines in the US use Windows, which has back doors and therefore can never be trusted, with or without tampering by a human operator. | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Any system which we cannot verify the internals and configuration of cannot be trusted, not just those made by companies which are NSA friendly. It seems reasonable that voters should have the right to know precisely how their vote is being handled. Want to use Windows? That's fine. Where's the source code? Let me compile it with the proper tool chain and verify that the signature matches my voting machine. Also, tell me everything about | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | the processor, memory, hard disk, etc... | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Processor - System management bus (SMB) might be compromised by extra firmware code in an MCU on said bus. The processor die itself may hide backdoors to subvert privilege separation and memory protection. | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Memory - Memory controllers may modify data on the fly. | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Hard disk - On disc controller may be compromised from factory. | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | Just about ANY chip that contains a known or unknown process controller may contain compromising logic, thus not necessarily code. So any chip wired to any important bus is suspect. | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | So even if you got the source and binaries to check or even install it yourself. It may still be fucked. | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | "Perfection is the enemy of good." | Jun 16 17:08 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | Good enough: | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | single-topic paper ballots in transparent urns (multi-topic ballots allowed if selections are unambiguous). Counted in public by as many volunteers as you can find, in front of as many observers and cameras as people want. Results published in newspapers so that everyone can check that the polling place they audited matches the official reported count. | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | "yes, but the US has too many issues on the ballot, people can't read/disability/whatever": give people a touch screen, but print the selections legibly and drop in aforementioned urn. Compare the machine's results to the urn results any time enough volunteers agree that they want to count (they don't have to check every poll to find whether the machine lies). | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | Make sure that the room always contains at least one Hatfield and one McCoy, so they can never collude. | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | I'd ask why it's so hard to use common sense, but I think I know the answer. | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | Sigh, how many times do I have to point out source code is not pixie dust and in this case provides ZERO, let me repeat that ZERO protection and in this case makes exactly fuck all difference and I can prove this with simple common sense...ready? | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | What has every security expert taught from the dawn of time? "If they have control of the hardware the battle is over" which is why physical security is so important that many high security places use everything from airgaps to epoxy in USB ports to deny physical access.....well guess what? The potential threat HAS COMPLETE AND TOTAL PHYSICAL ACCESS which makes whether they hand you some source or not? Worth exactly fuck and all. Lets say | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | they DO hand you the source for whatever OS they are running, be it Windows, Linux, fuck OS/2 Warp...question....how EXACTLY are you gonna show THAT was the code running during the critical voting period? How EXACTLY do you know that they didn't simply insert some malware while it was under their control and simply remove it before letting you look at the machine? If its Linux how do you know they aren't simply using one of the many known | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | older exploits for the OS? Not like these things are using nightly releases with the latest patches ya know. Hell most of them that DO offer source sure as hell aren't gonna let you have physical access to the machine so they might as well have given you source for a VCR clock for all the "proof" it gives you! | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | This is something that FOSS fans really REALLY have a problem with, they simply cannot connect dots and tell the difference between security and security theater...after all you have the source for the TiVo, is it secure? You had the code for Bash for 17+ years...did that keep it from being exploited? Source code isn't pixie dust, it won't magically make anything more or less secure, it is nothing but the code that IF is the correct code | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | AND was not compiled with a malicious compiler will give you a program out the other end which you can compare to the source in your hand...that's it folks, that is ALL IT DOES and buying into the bullshit that when a potential bad actor has hardware control that source code makes that scenario safe? Well then you might as well buy every bit of security theater from the TSA to PATRIOT, because they are just as valid! | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:09 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | M$ seems convinced that if they allow their code to be examined, it will convince European governments that Redmond has no purposely-hackable holes built into their junk. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Microsoft Opens Windows Source Code to EU Governments [petri.com] | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Responding to years-old complaints that its Windows operating systems may include secret “backdoors,” Microsoft this past week opened a Transparency Center in Brussels and invited EU governments to analyze its source code. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | MICROS~1: Playing catch-up, as usual. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.petri.com/no-back-doors-microsoft-opens-windows-source-code-to-eu-governments#post-63986 | Jun 16 17:10 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.petri.com | No Back Doors: Microsoft Opens Windows Source Code to EU Governments - Petri [ http://ur1.ca/mud2a ] | Jun 16 17:10 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | It's about reducing the number of attack vectors. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Using proprietary software for voting, you have to trust the software and the hardware and the people setting it up. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | Using open software, you need to only trust the hardware and the people setting it up. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | If you could use open hardware too, you'd only need to trust the people setting it up. | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | So, if a citizen is concerned and wants to try to investigate the security of the system...right now they need the source code from Microsoft (good luck getting that!) -- and they need to trust that it's correct. They also need hardware schematics and firmware code from someone like Diebold (never gonna happen) -- and they need to trust THOSE are correct. Then on top of all that, they've gotta go get involved with the local elections | Jun 16 17:10 |
| r_schestowitz | commission to verify all of this is deployed and set up properly. But if we were using open hardware and open software, that would skip the first two requirements in that chain. You don't have to get code or schematics out some major corporation that isn't willing to give it up. You already have those parts. You just have to go make sure the local elections commission isn't making any changes while they set it all up. The former would need | Jun 16 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | a large and powerful organization to verify; the latter could be done by a single committed individual. | Jun 16 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | "The government shouldn't even be using proprietary software, and especially not for something as important as voting. It's corporate welfare, restrictive, doesn't promote education, and you'll never really be able to check what it does or how it does it. You're beholden to some scummy corporation." | Jun 16 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | "This is the US government, though: They're beholden to scummy corporations for almost everything, from bombers to drones to websites to roadways to space flight. Ever since Ronald Reagan, they've been positively allergic to the idea of hiring civil servants to do work for the public good." | Jun 16 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | No, it isn't that insidious. You had the embarrassing debacle of Florida in 2000 with all the butterfly ballots, hanging chads, recounts, not allowing recounts, etc. Clearly all this would never have happened if it was all electronic, etc., etc. This is the 21st Century and all; it's embarrassing that we're so behind the times, etc. We must do something! | Jun 16 17:11 |
| r_schestowitz | For the States that wanted to "modernize", the Fed gave them money (Help America Vote Act) to do so. In steps Diebold and other companies with solutions that are 90% there. All they need to do is tweak up their existing ATM machine code or whatever. That sounds like a great deal because if it is good enough for an ATM, then it must be good enough for voting, right? You have election officials with money to burn and vendors who claim they | Jun 16 17:12 |
| r_schestowitz | have COTS solutions to purchase. In my state you had an election official talking about how great these were, and when pressed on the issue of verifying whether the machines are accurate, she pointed out how easy it was to do a recount by clicking on the "Recount" button in the software. There's that whole "don't attribute to malice. . . ." saying that is appropriate here. | Jun 16 17:12 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:12 |
| r_schestowitz | "Except that our system is so hopelessly corrupt, and our politicians always so 'conveniently' ignorant when it counts, that it is unreasonable to suggest that mere stupidity is a satisfactory explanation." | Jun 16 17:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Don't attribute to malice"?! Recount button, LOL. More appropriate is the saying America was founded on: "power corrupts". There is no reason to take anything on trust where verification is so relatively trivial. We should trust Diebold, when it would be so easy for them to hand over the source code? They think their precious proprietary secrets are more important than the integrity of our voting tabulation? They don't think copyright, as | Jun 16 17:12 |
| r_schestowitz | extreme as it is, is good enough for them? No way! We are the customers, and in this matter, it's our way or the highway. Hand over the source code and all other documentation, or we don't buy. That's the way it should be. | Jun 16 17:12 |
| r_schestowitz | It's like making a large cash purchase. Both sides count the money carefully, for several reasons. First is to make sure there aren't any mistakes. But also, it's to show that if any deliberate shortchanging is going on, it WILL be detected, so don't even think of trying it. | Jun 16 17:12 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:12 |
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| r_schestowitz | 1. Put names on a lot of pieces of paper. | Jun 16 17:13 |
| r_schestowitz | 2. Put an empty box with a hole in the top on a table somewhere. Confirm that it's empty in full view of everybody. | Jun 16 17:13 |
| r_schestowitz | 3. Voters come in, take a piece of paper, put a check next to the name of the person they want in each office, and put the paper in a box. | Jun 16 17:13 |
| r_schestowitz | 4. When the polls close, open the box in full view of everybody and count the votes by hand. | Jun 16 17:13 |
| r_schestowitz | The only useful electronic addition to this process is to use bubble-sheet versions of the paper ballots and count the bubble-sheet votes as voters are putting them into the box. And then compare the electronic count to the hand count in enough places to know the electronic count is accurate. I'd be supportive of making these electronic vote counters open source, but the very thing that makes computers useful tools (ease of changing data, | Jun 16 17:13 |
| r_schestowitz | and flexibility in what the computer does) are inherently bad for handling something that is supposed to be immutable, namely what each ballot said people wanted. | Jun 16 17:13 |
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| r_schestowitz | What he said. | Jun 16 17:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Auditing is possible, open and easy for most voters, if you use paper. For electronic vote, it's impossible for closed systems, practically impossible for open ones. | Jun 16 17:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Universal accessibility is a lot easier to assess when dealing with paper. If anything, we have extensive experience there. | Jun 16 17:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Paper is a lot harder to forge than electronic, it just scales harder. | Jun 16 17:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Counting electronic votes is potentially faster than paper, but counting paper votes takes just a couple of hours per circuit. It's well worth the effort. | Jun 16 17:14 |
| r_schestowitz | Electronic preliminary counting, and electronic gathering of results, that can be a good thing, but actual electronic ballots have no use for a democratic election. | Jun 16 17:14 |
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| r_schestowitz | That's how my state's voting works, pencil marks on scantron sheets fed into the machine, result available as quickly as someone wants to push a "results" button, paper ballots spot audited over the next week or so. If you incorrectly fill out your ballot the machine emits a foul noise and kicks the ballot back, or if accepted it emits two happy beeps and auto-ejects into a locked box for later auditing. | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Whenever voting comes up the comments are always hyper provincial, that the posters home state uses a windows PC intentionally designed to be unauditable, but there are numerous less brain dead states that don't have the slightest problem not using windows and auditing a proprietary system. | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | I'm about 99% certain the antique scantron machines do NOT run windows. They are programmed using scan cards, and as kids we went to great effort (no longer needed online) to find out that the first card read at power up sets the program and/or key so theres no way to reprogram while in use. Of course times may have changed since 1990, but fundamentally they're pretty simple machines and .edu majors aren't the brightest so KISS principle | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | reigns. The public schools use the same scantron model machines for multiple guess tests, presumably piggy backed onto some giant state purchase contract. Presumably if thousands of high school kids can't hack the machines, tens of 80 year old voter overseer aren't going to figure it out. | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | The main way to hack an election locally is to get the illegal voters out, both outright illegals, and dead people and non-voters. I've pretty much stopped voting, anyone who wants to show up and vote for me, can. | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | I talked to a senior citizen vote helper and there is a lot of behind the scenes stuff for anti-fraud that is interesting. For example two old people sign off on packages of serial numbered sequential ballots, so if the right sigs aren't on a receipt then there are questions if that serial number range suddenly shows up at audit time, or shows up at the wrong facility. This leads to insane delays if a site runs out of ballots. Also they | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | shuffle and randomize packs of ballots at a time, then the old people add a new handwritten sequential number and log them, so if serial numbers 250-300 all show up in the system simultaneously at 7:59 right before polls close the shit will hit the fan, also if the old people signed off up to seq number 750 then anything found in the audit box over 800 would be kind of suspicious... | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | Note that some cultures think honest elections are a universal good, whereas other cultural areas are going to see them as an impediment to be worked around, so the mere existence of proven long experienced ways to electronically run a fair election doesn't mean crooks will want them or do anything to encourage fair elections. | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | This also assumes elections mean anything other than tweedle dee vs tweedle dum, we have a one party system with two PR campaigns etc. In a lot of ways the primaries matter enormously more than the general elections, and of course some primaries are more important than others, etc. | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | I am just barely old enough to remember ancient mechanical voting machines from when my parents voted. Crazy things. Basically mechanical counters with hidden counts and lever interlocking systems, pull like ten little levers some interacting with each other then pull the big lever and hope for the best. The optical systems are much simpler and more reliable. | Jun 16 17:16 |
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| r_schestowitz | Are you suggesting that illegal immigrants routinely show up to the polls? Because that would make approximately no sense: illegal immigrants tend to do everything they can to avoid interacting with the government, because they know that to do so is to risk getting caught. | Jun 16 17:16 |
| r_schestowitz | As far as the dead people and non-voters showing up, you need to explain why there have been fewer than 20 cases of in-person voter fraud prosecuted in the last decade. If, for example, you're contending that there is a massively corrupt Democratic Party machine in Chicago, then why is it that Republican governor Bruce Rauner hasn't gone after it aggressively? | Jun 16 17:16 |
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| r_schestowitz | I have no real comment as to absolute level. As to relative level, yeah, I'd stand by those strategies being the best and most likely. | Jun 16 17:17 |
| r_schestowitz | Now if we had un-auditable windows PCs full of malware, then that would be the best bet, but not having them, the relatively best strategy is going to be as listed above. | Jun 16 17:17 |
| r_schestowitz | Aside from obvious legal hacks against the election process like gerrymandering. | Jun 16 17:17 |
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| r_schestowitz | "I looked into this quite a bit as my home state was trying to pass one of those voter ID measures a few years back. Nobody researching this issue has ever found even one single documented instance of this kind of voter fraud. People don't submit fraudulent votes in person, except by accident (ie, signing the wrong line in the poll book.) The risk is too high, and the reward of a single vote is far too low. " | Jun 16 17:17 |
| r_schestowitz | "There are other ways to hack an election, my government has been implementing them in the name of small government and stopping the non-existent voter fraud. Phone up people who are likely to vote for the opposition, tell them that their polling station has moved. Since they got caught last time, downsize the non-partisan election oversight and also ban them from even mentioning any investigations. Put polling stations in the right spots | Jun 16 17:18 |
| r_schestowitz | so it is easier for your supporters to vote and harder for the oppositions supporters to vote (in the name of saving money). I usually vote in the advance polls as being self-employed it is hard to find time to vote on election day. Last federal election the advance polling station was 30 miles away in the wrong direction, for the provincial election it was on the way to town and so easy to use. And last, go on about imaginary voter fraud | Jun 16 17:18 |
| r_schestowitz | and make onerous demands for ID. No more showing up with 2 pieces of government ID and a utility bill for my wife (who doesn't drive), now we have to spend $75 for another piece of ID, Provincial, because her federal picture ID doesn't have her address, nor does her provincial (medical) ID." | Jun 16 17:18 |
| r_schestowitz | "My personal experience, which is likely pretty normal, is you vote while in college and they have like two 90 year olds who are deaf in the basement of a 1000 person dorm complex only reachable by a locked door that is occasionally propped open and the oldest least reliable scanning machine in the fleet looks like someone tossed it down the stairs, and they tend to vote for the "D" PR team of the one-party. Vs in my 2nd/3rd richest subburb | Jun 16 17:19 |
| r_schestowitz | in the region and the polling place is 2 blocks away at the elementary school and they have 4 volunteers per roughly 300 person aldermanic district and a brand new vote scanning machine and they tend to vote "R". But we're all "equal" right?" | Jun 16 17:19 |
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| r_schestowitz | In my home state in 2004, I took strong notice of the fact that it took me approximately 20 minutes to vote in the mostly white genteel suburb, while a coworker of mine from a not-at-all-genteel urban precinct spent 2.5 hours waiting in line. And apparently it got worse in the not-at-all-genteel district as time went on. By complete coincidence, the secretary of state who controlled little details like how many voting machines were in which | Jun 16 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | precincts just happened to be the state campaign manager for the Republican candidate for president. And the not-at-all-genteel urban precinct was chock full of die-hard Democrats. | Jun 16 17:20 |
| r_schestowitz | Another technique seen more recently: The secretary of state has the tie-breaking vote on all of the county-wide elections councils (which are evenly split between Democrats and Republicans) that determine when early voting is open. Ours was voting for extended hours in areas which tended to support his party, and really short hours in areas which tended to oppose his party, until a federal court ruled he couldn't do that. | Jun 16 17:20 |
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| r_schestowitz | Indeed. Whether a voting computer runs free software or proprietary software does not matter for the voters, because voters are not running the software on their own computer. | Jun 16 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | If the software is free, then others can make use of the four freedoms to change and modify that software to run on their own computers, and share the software with their friends. But none of that makes any difference at the election. The issues are entirely different. | Jun 16 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | We must reject voting computers outright, except that using computers to assist with counting paper ballots is acceptable. | Jun 16 17:21 |
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| r_schestowitz | That's simply incorrect. Being able to verify what the machine is doing and what code it's running is very important, because voting affects us all. It doesn't matter if it happens on our own computers or not; software freedom is important in government. | Jun 16 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | It should simply be illegal for the government to use proprietary software. If existing free software doesn't do the job, it could do the world a favor by creating it and releasing it as free software. | Jun 16 17:21 |
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| r_schestowitz | There is no multi-million dollar contract in paper ballots for anyone. There is for electronic voting. | Jun 16 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Really, though, electronic voting makes formal what most American voters have suspected for a long time, that voting for change is a scam, and that voting only exists to fabricate the illusion of consent. With electronic voting, there remains no way for citizens to challenge the assumption of the legitimacy of the vote. There's no way to verify the ballot trail, there are no recounts. | Jun 16 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | There's also the second dimension, that of the Citizens United decision, which redoubles the illegitimacy of voting in America. Layer that on top of the sham of electronic voting and you have more grievance than the Founding Fathers ever had to form the United States of America in the first place. | Jun 16 17:21 |
| r_schestowitz | Citizens can either choose to swallow the lie of voting wholesale, knowingly, or they can rouse themselves to the difficult but necessary task of rebooting the entire political system. | Jun 16 17:21 |
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| r_schestowitz | I estimate that over 10,00 people have read the articles now and there were also discussions about it, the latest being in https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/06/14/221221 | Jun 16 17:25 |
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| r_schestowitz | Question to Americans out there: how do you turn this into an "issue", i.e. extend the debate from the geeky techy media to mainstream media (doesn't have to be regular corporate media like Fox, but something like BBC, which seems to get lots of US folks, or equvalent). Can it be pushed to Microsoft competitor news sites like Yahoo or whatever? Any of you have contacts there which can push it? | Jun 16 17:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Seems like California is the one place where if Microsoft wins, you US techy types are completely hopeless. I mean, the home of Google et al, run by Microsoft? | Jun 16 17:26 |
| r_schestowitz | Wringing your hands and saying aint it bad is pointless. Mumbling about armed insurrection is farcical. | Jun 16 17:27 |
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| r_schestowitz | Opt out and don't vote. It works for me. I feel no need to participate in a system that pragmatically leads to awful results. There's a libertarian quote out there along the lines of if I want an apple, don't make me vote for vanilla ice cream or chocolate ice cream then lie to me that I got my choice so I have to be happy about it and describe it as the best political system evar. | Jun 16 17:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Eventually voting will end up like major league baseball. Vaguely generally about 80% of the population are baseball fans by some trivial definition of fan, but only 5% of the population actually watches the world series and even less truly care. Eventually they round down to nothing and no longer matter. See also newspaper editorials and fox news style agitprop infotainment. | Jun 16 17:28 |
| r_schestowitz | Think how much better politicians would behave if only 10% of the population voted. Every time they pick their nose, they'd have to worry that if just a little more than 1 in 20 of the non-voters got pissed off, a non-D or non-R could numerically get elected to replace them... | Jun 16 17:28 |
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| r_schestowitz | Many people here in Alberta used to think the exact same thing as you just did. Baby Boomer demographics seemed to dictate that we would have the same party in power as had always been in power. Why bother voting, it's never going to make a difference, etc. Voter apathy was rampant. | Jun 16 17:29 |
| r_schestowitz | A single party had ruled for 44 years. Majority rule by the same party for that long is effectively a dictatorship. The media was even talking about the election of their party leader as a "Coronation"! | Jun 16 17:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Then came the election of 2015. We Kicked out a 44 year political dynasty [globalnews.ca] in the biggest electoral shakeup in North American history. Many voters didn't believe it would happen, Many people woke up the next morning wondering if it was actually a dream. | Jun 16 17:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Apparently democracy can actually work! Granted, things are a little more sane here in Canada, with several political parties to choose from, not just two like our choice-challenged neighbours to the south seem to have. | Jun 16 17:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Think how much better politicians would behave if only 10% of the population voted. Every time they pick their nose, they'd have to worry that if just a little more than 1 in 20 of the non-voters got pissed off, a non-D or non-R could numerically get elected to replace them... | Jun 16 17:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Defeatist attitudes like yours are what allows the system you are so frustrated with to continue. You say "Opt out and don't vote", then extoll the virtues of high voter turnout... the irony is palpable. The current system might "pragmatically lead to awful results", but (at least to you) not voting demonstrably does. | Jun 16 17:29 |
| r_schestowitz | Nothing could make fans of the status quo happier than you not voting and not expressing your opinion at the ballot box. Since you are obviously frustrated with the current state of things, I don't understand why you want to make them happy by not voting. | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Even a so-called "Useless" vote for a never-to-be-elected third party can drive policy as the mainstream candidates woo those votes for themselves. | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | YOUR VOTE MATTERS. It is the easiest, simplest means to express yourself politically there is in a democracy. You don't honestly think that politicians would spend all that corporate money trying to buy something worthless do you? | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Even the most cynical people out there, who feel like "a revolution is coming" or "dictatorship/corporatocracy is inevitable" should vote. If for no other reason than (as the quote so accurately says): | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -- Edmund Burke | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Voting is not nothing. | Jun 16 17:30 |
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| r_schestowitz | YOUR VOTE MATTERS. | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | No, it doesn't. Not in America. The federal government has completely changed hands twice since 2000. Nothing has changed in the policy trajectory. There has been not even a small inflection in the downward slide of the middle class, and the stratospheric accretion of the fortunes of the ultra-wealthy. The CIA has tortured people to death. The NSA has unilaterally blown the 4th Amendment away (as written, it's supposed to be hard to change | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | the Constitution, isn't it?). The biggest banks on Wall Street were all caught red-handed in the LIBOR scandal and all of them are still in business, and their CEOs did not go to prison. Classes of citizens have not yet been rounded up en masse and sent to camps (Note: I said 'citizens' and not 'people,' because getting rounded up does happen to illegal immigrants), but things could hardly be worse for a country that once called itself, " | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Land of the Free, Home of the Brave." | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Now, not voting does not mean doing nothing. Doing nothing is bad, and we can all agree with that as a more general statement. But voting is a complete waste of time, money, and effort when the system is this broken. Doing something that is not voting to change the status quo is vital. There are many people in America who have the skills to do something. I submit that what is now required in America is a revolution, as defined [merriam- | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | webster.com]: | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | Full Definition of REVOLUTION: | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | 2 | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | a : a sudden, radical, or complete change | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | b : a fundamental change in political organization; especially : the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | c : activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation | Jun 16 17:30 |
| r_schestowitz | d : a fundamental change in the way of thinking about or visualizing something : a change of paradigm | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Men and women of honor must act to effect that "sudden, radical, or complete change." It can mean writing software (Linus Torvalds is an example). It can mean starting a social enterprise or business that radically disintermediates the guardians of the status quo (by this definition, Elon Musk has done that to the auto, oil, and power industries). It can mean exposing the criminals at the very heart of the system (Snowden). It can take a | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | lot of forms, but it must be done and we all must do it. | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | God willing, that will be enough to close down the First American Republic and bring about the much improved American Republic 2.0. | Jun 16 17:31 |
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| r_schestowitz | It's obvious from you're comments that you feel completely disenfranchised, and I can't say I disagree with your reasons. The trends that you speak of are definitely real, and your political process is in definite need of some reform. | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | That said, you are wrong about your vote. Actually getting out and voting can be a revolutionary act. If the 40% to 45% of Americans like yourself who decide not to vote actually exercised that right, you would have your revolution. | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | All it requires of you is a little of your time. You don't even have to sacrifice anything, and the system is already in place to effect the change you're looking for. | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | No violence, risk to life and freedom, or even extraordinary effort, required. Just excercise your rights! Imagine how different the political landscape in the USA would be if people got as excited about their right to vote as they do about their right to bear arms! | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | I would like to introduce the mechanism of your revolution to you. It is called "Vote Splitting" [wikipedia.org]. You may not have heard of it before, but it's a common thing in countries with more than Two political parties. | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Lets do some math. According to some sources [wikipedia.org], you have a voter turnout of about 55%, so we'll work with that. Let's call the two major parties A (51% of the vote) and B (49% of the vote). That means that 28% of the eligible population voted for A, and about 27% of the voting population voted for B. Now, assume that a Independent candidate C runs, and really appeals to all those who didn't vote before. With a 100% voter | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | turnout, Candidate C could get 45% of the vote, and win easily! | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Now, obviously a 100% voter turnout is unrealistic, and the other parties would probably benefit some too. The point is that it is possible. As part of the established political process, the roadmap is even there for how it works, and a smooth transition of power would be probable. (Either that, or the people who really run the show would be forced into the open... probably precipitating the armed revolution you seem to expect.) | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | All it requires is an abolition of apathy, and overthrowing the defeatist attitude of the disenfranchised like yourself. | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Effecting real policy change doesn't even require voter turnout that extreme. As I said in my other post, when third-party or independent candidates start to get popular, the mainstream candidates shift their policies to attract those votes. | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | Seriously, get out and vote. Vote for a third-party, and encourage everyone else to do the same. Voter apathy is one of the root causes of the mess you're in, and your participation can help fix it. | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | If you and the other ~45% of the population can't take a couple of hours every couple years to engage with your political process now, your "American Republic 2.0" will probably end up as much a "Republic" (and just as "Democratic") as the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" [wikipedia.org] | Jun 16 17:31 |
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| r_schestowitz | "That would be awesome. Then Goldman Sachs would have to donate to three candidates instead of two. Oooh imagine the hope and change we'd get." | Jun 16 17:31 |
| r_schestowitz | "So many words, so much ignorance of Duverger's law." | Jun 16 17:32 |
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| r_schestowitz | Apparently democracy can actually work! Granted, things are a little more sane here in Canada, with several political parties to choose from, not just two like our choice-challenged neighbours to the south seem to have. | Jun 16 17:32 |
| r_schestowitz | We often have over a dozen choices on the ballot down here. You've got the green party, the libertarians, the socialists, the justice party...lots of choices. But nobody will vote for them because they "can't win" because nobody votes for them. Instead we swallow the media lie that the Republicrats are the only party that exists and that a vote for Lucifer is better than a vote for Satan. | Jun 16 17:32 |
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| r_schestowitz | You're playing into their hands by not voting. Even showing up and spoiling your ballot is better as the entrenched interests only want supporters showing up and voting. | Jun 16 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Seems in America you can have more influence on who the 2 parties nominate, which is an improvement to here. | Jun 16 17:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | "Find something immoral especially regarding SEX on those politicians that are in M$ pockets. It seems to be what works but it's not directly a sign of good debate." | Jun 16 17:33 |
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| r_schestowitz | The information is out there. It is presented from many points of view, and it's available to anyone who cares to look at it. Mainstream Media doesn't even bother trying to squash the information, because people just don't look. | Jun 16 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | http://original.livestream.com/freedomtv [livestream.com] | Jun 16 17:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-original.livestream.com | FREEDOM.TV - live streaming video powered by Livestream | Jun 16 17:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.freespeech.org/ [freespeech.org] | Jun 16 17:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.freespeech.org | Free Speech TV | Jun 16 17:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.projectcensored.org/ [projectcensored.org] | Jun 16 17:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.projectcensored.org | Project Censored — The News that Didn't Make the News and Why | Jun 16 17:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | http://oathkeepers.net/ [oathkeepers.net] | Jun 16 17:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-oathkeepers.net | Oath Keepers Forum and State chapters | Jun 16 17:33 | |
| r_schestowitz | I can continue for awhile, without even hitting any of the crazy conspiracy sites. There are sites out there, presenting their versions of the truth. I don't believe that ANY site has "THE TRUTH" - there is no messiah to deliver us, there is no charismatic leader, there is no organization with all the secrets. But, there are plenty of people who offer truth, who offer parts of the truth. | Jun 16 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | But, the masses are so interested in Hollyweird's extravaganzas, they don't have time to even think about real life. | Jun 16 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | Visit Youtube, and search for videos of polls. It's downright embarrasing, I swear that these people are more closely related to monkeys than any sapient race . . . | Jun 16 17:33 |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E [youtube.com] | Jun 16 17:33 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-www.youtube.com | Politically-Challenged: Texas Tech Edition - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/muda8 ] | Jun 16 17:33 | |
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| r_schestowitz | Well somehow Snowden managed to hit a lot of headlines. I don't know how it is in the US, but in UK it is a pretty big deal - still hitting top headlines every now and then. You probably need a reportable event that you can put in front of the media, even if it is just a report being issued or something. Maybe need to get some comment from a respected international organisation like those mentioned here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | Jun 16 17:34 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-en.wikipedia.org | Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Jun 16 17:34 | |
| r_schestowitz | Election_monitoring [wikipedia.org] | Jun 16 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | Talking to the folks being elected may help also. They probably don't care if they can rig the votes, they might be more worried if The Other Side can rig the votes... | Jun 16 17:34 |
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| r_schestowitz | Yep, this is it. If any nationwide attention is to be brought to this, it's gonna be muh Snowden and muh government spying and manipulating. | Jun 16 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that the NSA or other rogue elements within the government were already electronically manipulating votes, although the way the corporate Jew media is doing it should already be considered criminal. And there's not much we can do until we have proof. | Jun 16 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | Visit Youtube, and search for videos of polls. It's downright embarrasing, I swear that these people are more closely related to monkeys than any sapient race . . . | Jun 16 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | " rel="url2html-25009">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E | Jun 16 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | The problem with these sorts of videos is that they usually only show the people who make fools of themselves. I have no doubt a lot of people are morons, but these sorts of things don't show the whole picture. | Jun 16 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 16 17:34 |
| r_schestowitz | Visit Youtube, and search for videos of polls. It's downright embarrasing, I swear that these people are more closely related to monkeys than any sapient race . . . | Jun 16 17:35 |
| r_schestowitz | " rel="url2html-25009">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRZZpk_9k8E | Jun 16 17:35 |
| r_schestowitz | The problem with these sorts of videos is that they usually only show the people who make fools of themselves. I have no doubt a lot of people are morons, but these sorts of things don't show the whole picture. | Jun 16 17:35 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jmcest/status/611090269941944320 | Jun 17 08:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@jmcest: RT @schestowitz: More Political Interventions in #EPO Abuse Cases http://t.co/pDLOrl4VSo #europe #eu #patents #swpats | Jun 17 08:52 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | More Political Interventions in EPO Abuse Cases | Techrights | Jun 17 08:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/TriumphCIO/status/611107062907543552 | Jun 17 09:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@TriumphCIO: Majority of websites have serious, unfixed vulnerabilities http://t.co/zSZS6LXdLC… RT @@schestowitz #CIO #CTO #govCIO #security | Jun 17 09:45 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6231846 | Jun 17 17:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Olympic-standard shotput ball has arrived. Tomorrow if it's sunny it might be time to give it a shot... | Jun 17 17:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 17 17:40 |
| r_schestowitz | :D | Jun 17 17:40 |
| r_schestowitz | Mind the windows.. | Jun 17 17:40 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 17 17:40 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6233587 | Jun 17 18:09 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jeb Bush: Next President Should Privatize Social Security http://www.ibtimes.com/jeb-bush-next-president-should-privatize-social-security-1969720 wow, it DOES get worse. #bush | Jun 17 18:09 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Jeb is near the bottom of my list as far as GOP candidates are concerned but I'm not so sure he's wrong about this one. Between an individual and their employer, the government takes a huge chunk of money for social security. Yet instead of having some sort of fund, that money is immediately borrowed via bond purchase and put into the general tax fund. And it's hard to trust a government with your money running at the kind of debt levels | Jun 17 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | they do. I would be far more comfortable managing that money myself." | Jun 17 18:09 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/kstallett/status/611220225133019137 | Jun 17 18:30 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@kstallett: @UKinNewYork @schestowitz @Expo2015Milano @UKPavilion2015 @UKTIUSA @UKTI Where does Britain grow Cacao? | Jun 17 18:30 | |
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| roy__ | https://twitter.com/m_msolution/status/611700024641232896 | Jun 19 08:46 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@m_msolution: @schestowitz thanks for sharing Dr. Roy Schestowitz, have a great Friday :) (insight by http://t.co/KSWcMIszHk) | Jun 19 08:46 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> commun.it | Twitter Community Management Dashboard | Twitter Marketing Tool | Commun.it | Jun 19 08:46 | |
| roy__ | https://twitter.com/Luisja_350/status/611789767206961152 | Jun 19 08:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Luisja_350: @schestowitz 99%? I would say less than 5%, according to people knowledge about these matters. | Jun 19 08:47 | |
| roy__ | People in FB photograph and write about everyone around them, upload that stuff | Jun 19 08:47 |
| roy__ | Also, Facebook tracks everyone even non-useds [sic] | Jun 19 08:47 |
| roy__ | https://twitter.com/Luisja_350/status/611819628378128384 | Jun 19 09:02 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Luisja_350: @schestowitz I was referring to "#wikileaks made the 99%...", indeed they do, but I bet less than 5% knows about it. So... | Jun 19 09:02 | |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6237730 | Jun 19 09:24 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Unless this photo is fake, we may be seeing the funeral of #blackberry OS http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/06/blackberry-ltd-passport-seen-running-on-android-report/ | Jun 19 09:24 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.valuewalk.com | BlackBerry Ltd Passport Seen Running On Android [REPORT] [ http://ur1.ca/mv8wq ] | Jun 19 09:24 | |
| roy__ | "QNX is much less of a resource hog than the Linux kernel is." | Jun 19 09:24 |
| roy__ | True, but devices have swollen up to be able to deal with a lot more, and they have more features, inc. hardware acceleration | Jun 19 09:25 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238316 | Jun 19 09:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Joyent hits the sweet spot between containers, VMs for #Ubuntu http://www.infoworld.com/article/2937694/application-virtualization/joyent-hits-the-sweet-spot-between-containers-vms-for-ubuntu.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/18/joyent_meets_docker/ http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2015/06/18/joyent-adds-non-docker-services-triton-container-cloud/ | Jun 19 09:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.infoworld.com | Joyent hits the sweet spot between containers, VMs for Ubuntu | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/mvcue ] | Jun 19 09:25 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theregister.co.uk | Joyent and Umbongo union jilts VM at cloud altar • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/mvcuf ] | Jun 19 09:25 | |
| roy__ | "^^^ Get on the Hype Train ^^^" | Jun 19 09:25 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.datacenterknowledge.com | Joyent Adds Non-Docker Services to Triton Container Cloud | Data Center Knowledge [ http://ur1.ca/mvcuh ] | Jun 19 09:25 | |
| roy__ | http://i.giphy.com/hnPmvWjMUgfsY.gif | Jun 19 09:25 |
| roy__ | Are containers all hype? | Jun 19 09:25 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238569 | Jun 19 09:26 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: It's Been Three Years Since Linus Torvalds' Huge NVIDIA Rant http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-Linux-Rant-Three-Years #nvidia #tegra still a pile of rubbish. Avoid. | Jun 19 09:26 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.phoronix.com | It's Been Three Years Since Linus Torvalds' Huge NVIDIA Rant - Phoronix [ http://ur1.ca/mv8w6 ] | Jun 19 09:26 | |
| roy__ | "Linux could indeed find a lot of success if they focus on a much-ignored market for small, fanless PCs which connect to the TV for instance like the old Commodore machines used to. ARM would obviously be a part of that, especially if the GPU used is fully-free." | Jun 19 09:26 |
| roy__ | Linux is already dominant in such devices, e.g. PVRs | Jun 19 09:26 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238485 | Jun 19 09:27 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Alienware - like #dell - beholden to #microsoft http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alienware-Takes-Steam-Machine-to-E3-2015-But-It-s-Running-Windows-484574.shtml not shocking http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Dell | Jun 19 09:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Alienware Takes Steam Machine to E3 2015, but It's Running Windows - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mv8u0 ] | Jun 19 09:27 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Dell - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ebpft ] | Jun 19 09:27 | |
| roy__ | "Which will encourage companies such as Ubisoft, Electronic Arts, Capcom and Bethesda to release their stuff on Linux if it ends up being successful. Until that happens, The Elder Scrolls, Assassin's Creed, Need for Speed and Resident Evil remain on Windows exclusively." | Jun 19 09:27 |
| roy__ | The leading Steam games are all available for GNU/Linux now | Jun 19 09:28 |
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| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238569 | Jun 20 04:55 |
| roy__ | "What I'm proposing is slightly different. Think of the old Commodore and Atari ST computers. They were all within a keyboard. Now imagine selling such a keyboard as a TV remote control. It would come with wireless HDMI connector which a user would plug to their TV and it would communicate with a Linux-powered computer a user would keep in his hands. That computer would use the television as a monitor and would allow them to do much of everything a | Jun 20 04:55 |
| roy__ | person can do with a computer from the comfort of their living room." | Jun 20 04:55 |
| roy__ | PS3 did this a long time ago with YDL. | Jun 20 04:55 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238956 | Jun 20 04:56 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In the #uk it is very rare to see #police with weapons (esp. so in #manchester but maybe not in London), exceptionally rare for non-cops | Jun 20 04:56 | |
| roy__ | "I like that way, usually the people smart enough to handle guns properly are the ones not willing to have one." | Jun 20 04:56 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6233587 | Jun 20 04:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Jeb Bush: Next President Should Privatize Social Security http://www.ibtimes.com/jeb-bush-next-president-should-privatize-social-security-1969720 wow, it DOES get worse. #bush | Jun 20 04:57 | |
| roy__ | "WTF are you talking about? The stock market is higher now that it has ever been. Besides, social security is a long term investment and would/should be invested very conservatively. Personally, I would rather keep those taxes and invest them how I want instead of the government deciding how it is done for me." | Jun 20 04:57 |
| roy__ | "Now, sure. But in 2008, just think about all the savings and/or SS income many retirees depend on that would have been wiped out." | Jun 20 04:57 |
| roy__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6240287 | Jun 20 04:58 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Pope Francis vs. vampire capitalism: The real reason why his #climatechange encyclical is revolutionary http://www.salon.com/2015/06/18/pope_francis_vs_vampire_capitalism_the_real_reason_why_his_climate_change_encyclical_is_revolutionary/ | Jun 20 04:58 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.salon.com | Pope Francis vs. vampire capitalism: The real reason why his climate-change encyclical is revolutionary - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/mvnag ] | Jun 20 04:58 | |
| roy__ | "This is the same asshole calling on a One World government to make sure that the planet is protected. As a supporter of software which makes sure that control is never in the hands of the few, I find your support of this man quite alarming." | Jun 20 04:58 |
| roy__ | "Vatican is a city-state. The climate change talk is playing ball to ensure their piece of the pie in the NWO. No one of significance is fighting NWO. Russia, China all want in, albeit fighting for a larger role than they have been pre-assigned. Their "multi-polar" world is just BRICS doing an end run." | Jun 20 04:59 |
| roy__ | I support the Vatican? LOL! | Jun 20 04:59 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238000 | Jun 20 05:40 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #JavaScript is not evil in its own right. It's just what the ads/surveillance industry turned it into that makes it so. #librejs | Jun 20 05:40 | |
| r_schestowitz | "More like Geocities. I had one of those once." | Jun 20 05:40 |
| r_schestowitz | Mine died after Microsoft killed Yahoo! | Jun 20 05:40 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238316 | Jun 20 05:42 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Joyent hits the sweet spot between containers, VMs for #Ubuntu http://www.infoworld.com/article/2937694/application-virtualization/joyent-hits-the-sweet-spot-between-containers-vms-for-ubuntu.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/18/joyent_meets_docker/ http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2015/06/18/joyent-adds-non-docker-services-triton-container-cloud/ | Jun 20 05:42 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.infoworld.com | Joyent hits the sweet spot between containers, VMs for Ubuntu | InfoWorld [ http://ur1.ca/mvcue ] | Jun 20 05:42 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.theregister.co.uk | Joyent and Umbongo union jilts VM at cloud altar • The Register [ http://ur1.ca/mvcuf ] | Jun 20 05:42 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Not all hype, the tech is proven since it's been in BSD for decades. Hype is the fact that all commercial cloud hosting companies (mine included) have launched a "container platform" because the keywords bring in more customers because...HYPE! Personally I love Joyent. They do some cutting edge stuff." | Jun 20 05:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.datacenterknowledge.com | Joyent Adds Non-Docker Services to Triton Container Cloud | Data Center Knowledge [ http://ur1.ca/mvcuh ] | Jun 20 05:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6241924 | Jun 20 05:43 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Just because there's abundance of water doesn't mean leave shower on after use. Both women's and men's changing room had them left on today. | Jun 20 05:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Such people honestly disgust me." | Jun 20 05:43 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6237730 | Jun 20 05:44 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Unless this photo is fake, we may be seeing the funeral of #blackberry OS http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/06/blackberry-ltd-passport-seen-running-on-android-report/ | Jun 20 05:45 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.valuewalk.com | BlackBerry Ltd Passport Seen Running On Android [REPORT] [ http://ur1.ca/mv8wq ] | Jun 20 05:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Which come at the expense of battery life..." | Jun 20 05:45 |
| r_schestowitz | For battery life we need to get back to phones, not all that 'smart' phone nonsense - devices that can basically make phonecalls, albeit I have the tracking by triangulation from the towers | Jun 20 05:45 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/612133383255109632?t=1&cn=bWVudGlvbg%3D%3D&sig=7da9d34150e6511a65e0b3fb804fe5c80d58e622&al=1&refsrc=email&iid=c9f55d186f2e47e2b63e8bc5dc8fe472&autoactions=1434778946&uid=26603208&nid=4+1267 | Jun 20 05:48 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@Metztli_IT: Could it be the Linux Foundation is #OpenWashing mercenaries of proprietary software, fiends of #FOSS? @schestowitz https://t.co/ihJ33tz6ay | Jun 20 05:48 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@linuxfoundation: Linux kernel developer work spaces video: K.Y. Srinivasan of @Microsoft http://t.co/JLSXRyx1vG http://t.co/xQnrymVsMa | Jun 20 05:48 | |
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| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6245538 | Jun 20 17:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: America hates its whistle-blowers: The tortured legacy of Edward #Snowden http://www.salon.com/2015/06/13/america_hates_its_whistleblowers_the_tortured_legacy_of_edward_snowden_partner/ by David Sirota | Jun 20 17:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 17:45 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.salon.com | America hates its whistle-blowers: The tortured legacy of Edward Snowden - Salon.com [ http://ur1.ca/mvteq ] | Jun 20 17:45 | |
| r_schestowitz | Thanks, interestng article. | Jun 20 17:45 |
| r_schestowitz | If I may bring my 'pet peeve', I wish David Sirota had instead gotten the article title to be 'USA hates its whistle-blowers'. Because America is a continent, a land area, while United States of America is a formal organization that was constituted in the 1700s, and that's in principle not very different from The Coca-Cola Company. I've even seen that USA refers to its president as its CEO. | Jun 20 17:45 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 17:45 |
| r_schestowitz | Can't educate writers too much all at once ;-) | Jun 20 17:45 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6244843 | Jun 20 17:47 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: According to Sueddeutsche Zeitung, #NATO expansion in #ukraine is now motovating #russia to increase size of nuclear arsenal. Great! :-( | Jun 20 17:47 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 17:47 |
| r_schestowitz | "The British began to pull back, realising that the Albanian operation – codenamed ‘Valuable’ – was anything but and risked fuelling Stalin’s paranoia. Britain, having initially feared American disengagement from Europe and a return to isolationism, was also beginning to worry that perhaps the Americans were a bit too reckless and might start a war, a war in which London, not Washington, would be obliterated." | Jun 20 17:47 |
| r_schestowitz | Gordon Corera - The Art of Betrayal- The Secret History of MI6 | Jun 20 17:47 |
| r_schestowitz | Reading it now - very interesting. | Jun 20 17:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 17:47 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 17:48 |
| r_schestowitz | "Stalin’s paranoia" - it wasn't paranoia, as the book shows. | Jun 20 17:48 |
| r_schestowitz | It also shows that our rulers obsession with Russia goes back to the 19th century and the "Great Game" - "communism" just, sort of, legitimised their aggression. | Jun 20 17:48 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 17:48 |
| r_schestowitz | "It's surprising how Europeans do not understand they are being used as a shield by the US for not getting all the Russian nukes.' | Jun 20 17:48 |
| r_schestowitz | Like Scotland in the UK (all the nukes are there) | Jun 20 17:48 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6238485 | Jun 20 17:49 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Alienware - like #dell - beholden to #microsoft http://news.softpedia.com/news/Alienware-Takes-Steam-Machine-to-E3-2015-But-It-s-Running-Windows-484574.shtml not shocking http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Dell | Jun 20 17:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> news.softpedia.com | Alienware Takes Steam Machine to E3 2015, but It's Running Windows - Softpedia [ http://ur1.ca/mv8u0 ] | Jun 20 17:49 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | Dell - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/ebpft ] | Jun 20 17:49 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6244824 | Jun 20 17:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The #nsa does not need #backdoor at #duckduckgo - it already has that: it's called #aws (whose loyalties are known). #duckdoor #amazon #cia | Jun 20 17:55 | |
| r_schestowitz | "I use yandex now" | Jun 20 17:55 |
| r_schestowitz | As long as you don't travel to Russia... ;-) | Jun 20 17:55 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6189977 | Jun 20 17:55 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Using #ixquick (Startpage) for #privacy looks possible... as long as you disable #javascript (G) and never click "Images" (Microsoft). Sad. | Jun 20 17:55 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Why have I never seen these ads? Are you using a phone app? Get a real computer, and go to eu.ixquick.com. What do you see? I'm really beginning to wonder if you have a serious adware infection. Of course, if you're using a phone to look at the internet, the infection's built-in. Come on, you're using an Android phone, right? So that means no matter what site you look at, you're using Google." | Jun 20 17:55 |
| r_schestowitz | I use GNU/Linux desktop. now the eu subsite of ixquick. | Jun 20 17:56 |
| r_schestowitz | "All the smaller projects should also do so. Many packages on slackbuilds.org are linked to sourceforge. Same with Linux From Scratch :-/" | Jun 20 17:57 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6245378 | Jun 20 17:57 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why big open-source projects are fleeing SourceForge's free software hub http://www.pcworld.com/article/2938017/why-big-open-source-projects-are-fleeing-sourceforges-free-software-hub.html bye bye http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/SourceForge | Jun 20 17:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.pcworld.com | Why big open-source projects are fleeing SourceForge's free software hub | PCWorld [ http://ur1.ca/mvtgj ] | Jun 20 17:57 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> techrights.org | SourceForge - Techrights [ http://ur1.ca/mo6sj ] | Jun 20 17:57 | |
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| r_schestowitz | The legislatures that create international law are often as democratic or more democratic than national governments. E.g., the European Parliament. | Jun 20 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | Aren't you really opposed to statutory law, per se? | Jun 20 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6245420 | Jun 20 19:51 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Why Mass #Surveillance Violates International #Law http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2015/06/mass_surveillance_violates_international_law_david_kaye_s_report_to_the.html for those who bother obeying it... | Jun 20 19:51 | |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes--> www.slate.com | Mass surveillance violates international law: David Kaye’s report to the United Nation’s Human Rights Council. [ http://ur1.ca/mvtm9 ] | Jun 20 19:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | The legislatures that create international law are often as democratic or more democratic than national governments. E.g., the European Parliament. | Jun 20 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | Aren't you really opposed to statutory law, per se? | Jun 20 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 19:51 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6246018 | Jun 20 19:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: OK, I'm done for good with #ixquick / #startpage because now they transmit all my search terms to #google #prism (for ads). Alternatives? | Jun 20 19:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | "goodsearch where you can donate to good causes don`t know about how private it is though" | Jun 20 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | just seen this one might be of interest | Jun 20 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | http://ninjacloak.com/ | Jun 20 19:52 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-ninjacloak.com | NO TITLE | Jun 20 19:52 | |
| r_schestowitz | " | Jun 20 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | I need a tool with broad reach to many pages that doesn't expose my search terms... I used to use Scroogle for a long time, but it died. | Jun 20 19:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Isn't Kate tired of popping them out yet? | Jun 20 19:53 |
| r_schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/6246490 | Jun 20 19:53 |
| -TechBytesBot/#techbytes-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Liz needs to tell her grandson to make another royal baby to entertain (distract) the peasants with. #austerity #uk | Jun 20 19:53 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Isn't Kate tired of popping them out yet?" | Jun 20 19:53 |
| r_schestowitz | they can speed it up with some c sections... | Jun 20 19:53 |
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