IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: July 3rd, 2016-July 9th, 2016

schestowitz	Fo shizzle	Jul 03 01:31
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schestowitz	SebthreeBQM10HD: https://twitter.com/helenpidd/status/748039036883861504	Jul 03 04:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@helenpidd: Swedish mum told to "fuck off back home" in York after being heard talking to her kids in Swedish https://t.co/ATGuFFbmze		Jul 03 04:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/avilarenata/status/730497218738827265	Jul 03 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@avilarenata: To defend those who no one else would, always side w the oppressed. That is the lesson and legacy of Michael Ratner. https://t.co/zO5hcQfXnG		Jul 03 04:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@avilarenata: To defend those who no one else would, always side w the oppressed. That is the lesson and legacy of Michael Ratner. https://t.co/zO5hcQfXnG		Jul 03 04:25
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/749523480597696513	Jul 03 08:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Extreme online security measures to protect your digital privacy – a guide @schestowitz https://t.co/cJqocdRDKg		Jul 03 08:11
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schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/06/dear-europe.html?showComment=1467532899044#c991313249439082842	Jul 03 08:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: Dear Europe...		Jul 03 08:28
schestowitz	"	Jul 03 08:28
schestowitz	To Matthew Garner	Jul 03 08:28
schestowitz	The losers in any vote always invoke the "silent" on their side. All that an be known about them is that they were silent.	Jul 03 08:28
schestowitz	Using your logic most (I think about 70%) of the young voted to Remain. However, only 37% of them voted at all. Therefore the vast majority of the young did NOT vote to Remain.	Jul 03 08:28
schestowitz	"	Jul 03 08:28
oiaohm	The general rule is those who did not vote automatically vote abstaining so not interested in what direction the vote would turn out.	Jul 03 08:32
oiaohm	Little late to be caring now.	Jul 03 08:32
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/06/a-possible-way-for-non-eu-uk-to.html?showComment=1467538804605#c1981728884413299257	Jul 03 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com \| The IPKat: A possible way for a non-EU UK to participate in the Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court? [ http://ur1.ca/pegut ]		Jul 03 08:33
schestowitz	"	Jul 03 08:33
schestowitz	In answer to The Pigs, economics is not my profession: I just read a newspaper online. The Paper published by the IMF research dept was downloadable via a Link. I failed to save the Link.	Jul 03 08:33
schestowitz	The Paper concludes that the negative effects of free movement are serious, in that they are not short-lived but instead are long-lasting enough to affect generations of people. Until now economists have not taken these downside consequences into account, because they haven't been able to measure them, to ascribe numbers to them.	Jul 03 08:33
schestowitz	I think that is because, until now, they have not bothered to find a way to measure them. perhaps they will now. Better late than never.	Jul 03 08:33
schestowitz	Germany and France imposed a 7 year feeeze on Poles wanting to work in their countries, after Poland acceded to the EU. Did the UK Civil Service think of doing that? Yes! Did the UK Government do it? No! I suppose it thought that England could do with all the lean and fit, trained and qualified, hard-working employees from wherever it could find them. And straightaway too.	Jul 03 08:33
schestowitz	"	Jul 03 08:33
oiaohm	Looks like Australia is heading for a hung parliament and Senate. Even with Australia mandatory voting laws still over 20 percent has still offically declared no vote either way.	Jul 03 08:35
oiaohm	Also I think it strange that some how to share a patent court means having to share everything else.	Jul 03 08:39
oiaohm	Historically treaties over patents and copyright have been done between countries without requiring anything else to be shared.	Jul 03 08:39
oiaohm	Just UK IP legal debates have to return to old school treaties talks.	Jul 03 08:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/749584626432217088	Jul 03 08:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Jesus Christ.... This is insane.		Jul 03 08:58
schestowitz	I have just responded. Hopefully IP Kat wont' censor my polite comment again...	Jul 03 08:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749586226697605121	Jul 03 08:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz out of curiosity: what rules?		Jul 03 08:59
schestowitz	1. soaping oneself in sauna; 2) no trunks (girls 'ran' away); 3) hacking thermostat; 4) leaving sauna open; 5) leaving showerS (many) on .	Jul 03 09:00
schestowitz	6) throwing water around in sauna; 7) exposing oneself (prick-waving etc.). Guests were visible irritated.	Jul 03 09:01
schestowitz	If you pay 70 quid for a massage or something you don't expect to see people like this around (as members)	Jul 03 09:02
schestowitz	*[typo] visibly irritated (other people did complain too)	Jul 03 09:03
schestowitz	^context: some idiot in the spa will have membership terminated	Jul 03 09:04
oiaohm	schestowitz: really the interesting question is will the complete UK leave the EU or will only a section.	Jul 03 09:06
oiaohm	schestowitz: because legally each part of the UK is allowed to make it own selection when it comes to treaties.	Jul 03 09:06
schestowitz	i don't think anything will change	Jul 03 09:09
schestowitz	it increasingly looks like this	Jul 03 09:09
schestowitz	media and government will convince people	Jul 03 09:09
schestowitz	that it's in their best interest to stay	Jul 03 09:09
schestowitz	and that people who voted to leave have since changed their mind	Jul 03 09:10
schestowitz	and the referendum was never legally binding	Jul 03 09:10
schestowitz	my lawyers (acted on my behalf when the EPO threatened legal action) writes a lot about this subject right now, gets cited widely on how the brexit thing won't be followed through	Jul 03 09:10
schestowitz	and I think he makes a compelling case for why this is more so true all the time	Jul 03 09:11
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/ZjD946a.gifv	Jul 03 09:33
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749596826991558656	Jul 03 09:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Seems like a correct thing to do to report such behavior.		Jul 03 09:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749597220828315648	Jul 03 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz This was in UK? Proper behaviour in sauna seems culturally dependent. But some of the things he did wouldn't be ok here either.		Jul 03 09:35
schestowitz	Yes, I know. Is it true that in Finland people pour vodka in?	Jul 03 09:35
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749597621493370880 https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749597998208937984 https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749598624837931010 https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749598989880856576	Jul 03 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Mainly: not following following proper respectful behavior. Dick waving and soap would be total no-no's in a public sauna.		Jul 03 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz It is not true. But water is thrown to the stones, always.		Jul 03 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz This is called "Löyly", which is a word roughly meaning "Life". But it has sacred overtones as Sauna is an ancient holy space.		Jul 03 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Although nowadays, not even many Finns would know this. Despite almost everyone doing Sauna at least once a week. 😅		Jul 03 10:00
schestowitz	When I'm in Germany and Switzerland people are nuke, but no alcohol drinking. Any different in Finland?	Jul 03 10:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/749602229712252928	Jul 03 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Might make a good router/firewall @schestowitz https://t.co/KqvqFEBYbR		Jul 03 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> CompuLab's Fitlet Is A Very Tiny, Fanless, Linux PC With AMD A10 Micro - Phoronix		Jul 03 10:02
schestowitz	Not so economic compared to most routers..	Jul 03 10:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/749602730814103552	Jul 03 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@motters: @schestowitz freedoms 2 & 3 aren't only relevant to programmers, since software includes more than code: translations, graphics, audio, etc		Jul 03 10:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749604640212262912	Jul 03 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Generally no drinking of any kind in a public sauna here. Not even soft drinks. When you come out of Löyly, you can have a sip.		Jul 03 10:06
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TweetTuxMachines	Why do we use the Linux kernel's TCP stack?	Jul 03 10:19
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cubexyz	oiaohm dude, I'm still using 90's tech	Jul 03 10:51
cubexyz	what's this talk about 3 or 4 years? :)	Jul 03 10:51
cubexyz	in the vic-20 era I only really used it between 1982 and 1985, so yes 3 years for that one	Jul 03 10:55
cubexyz	the SL-5500 zaurus is 2002 era	Jul 03 10:57
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cubexyz	I spent quite a long time working on kde1 stuff yesterday	Jul 03 10:59
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4r1l56/is_incompatibility_with_microsoft_word_a_sound/	Jul 03 11:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Is incompatibility with Microsoft Word a sound concern to not change to Linux? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pehtd ]		Jul 03 11:10
oiaohm	cubexyz: remember most of my figures are 24/7 running.	Jul 03 11:12
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cubexyz	oiaohm, same here	Jul 03 11:14
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TweetTuxMachines	Arch Linux on ZFS - Embed ZFS in Archiso	Jul 03 11:14
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cubexyz	well, except for the laser printer, that isn't running 24/7	Jul 03 11:14
cubexyz	but it is 1997 technology	Jul 03 11:14
oiaohm	schestowitz: its true that MS Office products are incompatible between version. Unless you are somewhere that has a volume license so everyone is on the same version libreoffice differences are no worst than what multi versions of MS Office generate anyhow.	Jul 03 11:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: every part in a computer has an expect max hours of operation.	Jul 03 11:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: the short expect max on a motherboard will be about 7 to 8 years.	Jul 03 11:16
oiaohm	cubexyz: and that is 24/7 no sleep mode no power off.	Jul 03 11:16
cubexyz	oiaohm, that's true but it's more a question of how repairable things are and how easily one can obtain replacement parts	Jul 03 11:16
oiaohm	Now of course that is server boards.	Jul 03 11:17
cubexyz	if I was running a CP/M box with 8 inch floppy drives, I'd be in trouble	Jul 03 11:17
cubexyz	but a P3? The world is drowning in parts for that	Jul 03 11:17
oiaohm	Desktop boards with 1/3 operation meaning design for 8 hours a day only.	Jul 03 11:17
oiaohm	and you then run that 24/7	Jul 03 11:18
oiaohm	Say ouch at 3 years.	Jul 03 11:18
oiaohm	So there are quality differences	Jul 03 11:19
oiaohm	As well as how repairable.	Jul 03 11:19
cubexyz	the QDI box still has the original power supply	Jul 03 11:20
schestowitz	retro https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4qpemf/fucked_up_grub_have_no_usb_stick_nor_other_live/	Jul 03 11:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Fucked up grub, have no USB stick nor other Live CDs laying around. Maybe this will be my savior? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pehvm ]		Jul 03 11:20
cubexyz	that's 2001...	Jul 03 11:20
cubexyz	oiaohm, I had a bit of a shock going to the computer store and they didn't seem to know what an IDE drive was	Jul 03 11:20
oiaohm	I do have a pent 233 around here that still works.	Jul 03 11:21
oiaohm	But it mostly had a light life	Jul 03 11:21
cubexyz	but as you pointed out I can just stick an SATA/IDE card in the computer	Jul 03 11:22
oiaohm	There is sata to ide converters and back.	Jul 03 11:23
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4q1mnj/forgetting_how_to_microsoft/	Jul 03 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Forgetting how to Microsoft : linux		Jul 03 11:23
oiaohm	With CNC machines with old pata drive bases you have to use that stuff.	Jul 03 11:23
cubexyz	Microsoft? What's that? :)	Jul 03 11:25
oiaohm	cubexyz: you know you have a problem when the only thing on the shelf is SAS	Jul 03 11:28
cubexyz	usb drives though...	Jul 03 11:28
cubexyz	lots of those	Jul 03 11:28
cubexyz	my amiga 500 is a bit of a problem to support	Jul 03 11:29
cubexyz	SCSI-1, have to scrounge around for those	Jul 03 11:29
cubexyz	you can imagine the monitor issues with amiga	Jul 03 11:30
cubexyz	my monitor fixing skills are weak :-/	Jul 03 11:31
cubexyz	it's got the mono composite out, I can use that	Jul 03 11:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/749628353431408640	Jul 03 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: Great! Format your Linux HD & ask systemd to reboot the useless box! P.S. you can do the same w/ b > sysrq-trigger https://t.co/rm0jgZOYqs		Jul 03 11:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #systemd reboots the system from RAM alone https://t.co/zdQHUaGYJe doesn't provide mental comfort, does it? https://t.co/RItq4zGhYV		Jul 03 11:40
schestowitz	https://i.reddituploads.com/87ad3b41868c4073925ab91aac72fb37?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=8ff8f3e3026db07035ab6040105cb19b	Jul 03 11:42
schestowitz	Once upon a time	Jul 03 11:43
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W9C_9MYxWM what people get to work	Jul 03 11:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amiga Rgb to Scart and Scart to HDMI - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pei0p ]		Jul 03 11:43
schestowitz	Now we have Lennux with systemd	Jul 03 11:43
cubexyz	ahem slack ahem openbsd :)	Jul 03 11:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: that is amiga rgb to scart then scart to hdmi so allowing modern screens.	Jul 03 11:44
cubexyz	oiaohm, I want the historically accurate equipment for amiga	Jul 03 11:45
oiaohm	cubexyz: so screen issue is how many converters required.	Jul 03 11:45
cubexyz	a quirk I know	Jul 03 11:45
oiaohm	Personally when it comes to old crt monitors I am happy to see the back to them.	Jul 03 11:45
oiaohm	I have some bad memories of being on the wrong side of their high voltages.	Jul 03 11:45
cubexyz	yeah the techs don't like to look at my old CRTs	Jul 03 11:46
oiaohm	Have you ever looked at the voltages inside.	Jul 03 11:46
oiaohm	And how far if you screw up they throw you.	Jul 03 11:46
cubexyz	just HDTV LCD's, I've taken those apart	Jul 03 11:46
oiaohm	Think of the crt tube as one huge capacitor.	Jul 03 11:47
oiaohm	Bigger it is the more it can hurt you.	Jul 03 11:47
oiaohm	crt tube can hold it enough to throw you badly for more than 4 weeks + without a power connection.	Jul 03 11:47
oiaohm	Modern day plasma and LCD don't contain evil.	Jul 03 11:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749630496288669697	Jul 03 11:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz What resolution does your monitor have?		Jul 03 11:48
oiaohm	Turn modern day stuff off wait a max of a hour and its basically safe.	Jul 03 11:48
schestowitz	1920p across (external), less on the laptop	Jul 03 11:49
oiaohm	cubexyz: CRT discharge is normally high volts low amps so not going to kill you as such. But having you mussels move without exact control can get you into all kinds of trouble quickly.	Jul 03 11:53
oiaohm	cubexyz: like my worst was ending up flat on back under a 20 kg monitor I pulled on top of self due to discharge.	Jul 03 11:53
cubexyz	ouch	Jul 03 11:53
oiaohm	To be truthful that was not the most dangerous. The boss one day was almost killed by flying screw driver because due to arc staff member threw it.	Jul 03 11:54
oiaohm	cubexyz: after a few close calls like that you can understand when a tech sees a crt screen they go can we please use converters and LCD/Plasma instead or just price that high you give up.	Jul 03 11:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: we knew the screw driver was not thrown by the person and it was lethal due to the fact it passed threw solid door behind boss.	Jul 03 11:57
oiaohm	cubexyz: and work place had security cameras.	Jul 03 11:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749632794578616320 https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749633032349487104	Jul 03 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz That's the same as mine. I thought maybe your monitor's resolution would explain why the font on techrights is so small.		Jul 03 11:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz But it doesn't. Ah well, I'll just keep on pressing ctrl-+ when I read techrights.		Jul 03 11:58
schestowitz	I do that too :-)	Jul 03 11:58
cubexyz	oiaohm, I need a LCD that can do 15 khz	Jul 03 12:04
cubexyz	or I just keep buying old CRTs	Jul 03 12:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749633857629122560	Jul 03 12:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Now I'm perplexed. If you know your site is hard to read, why not make it more accessible?		Jul 03 12:05
schestowitz	Backward compatibility with original design 10 years ago	Jul 03 12:05
oiaohm	cubexyz: that is why you end up with scart to hdmi.	Jul 03 12:10
oiaohm	cubexyz: lot of the different converters handle different khz before turning them to standard modern hdmi speeds.	Jul 03 12:12
cubexyz	oiaohm, I have the schematic for the amiga 1080	Jul 03 12:17
cubexyz	so if I can find a tech maybe the monitor can be repaired	Jul 03 12:18
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oiaohm	cubexyz: most fails in crt monitors are not key parts. Problem is having anyone wanting to deal with them.	Jul 03 12:20
oiaohm	cubexyz: most of my dealing with crt was with apples where to change harddrives and main controller boards you had to get around the crt safely.	Jul 03 12:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: so from have device function point of view look at converters.	Jul 03 12:22
cubexyz	the 1080 stops showing red after a few minutes, otherwise it does work	Jul 03 12:22
oiaohm	Converter is also important to know if fault is amiga 1080 side or old crt as well.	Jul 03 12:23
oiaohm	A single color disappearing remembering that the old amiga are a rgb output could be a out put failure.	Jul 03 12:24
oiaohm	No point messing with the crt if it not the part at fault.	Jul 03 12:24
cubexyz	nah, got to be the monitor	Jul 03 12:27
cubexyz	could be the monitor cable though	Jul 03 12:29
cubexyz	but I doubt it... why would it work for a few minutes then stop showing red?	Jul 03 12:29
cubexyz	then turn it off for a while then it shows red for a while again?	Jul 03 12:29
oiaohm	some of the old devices simple things like power feeds can be cutting out in places.	Jul 03 12:33
oiaohm	Also with cables sometimes with the old insulations when they heat they use to expand so making a break in a cable larger.	Jul 03 12:34
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cubexyz	anyone know how to delete all backslashes from a file using vim?	Jul 03 15:14
MinceR	:%s/\\//g -- perhaps	Jul 03 15:15
cubexyz	yes good	Jul 03 15:16
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schestowitz	" SUEPO is very pleased to hear about this apparent change of mind and sincerely hopes that concrete steps will follow soon – not only in Munich but also at the other places of employment. "	Jul 03 18:40
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DaemonFC	I might get a couple more games on the Steam sale.	Jul 03 22:11
DaemonFC	I usually just get the $2-3 ones.	Jul 03 22:11
DaemonFC	The Witcher and The Witcher 2 maybe.	Jul 03 22:11
*MinceR is waiting for The Witchest		Jul 03 22:11
DaemonFC	The third one is still kind of expensive. It'll go on sale for a better price when it's old.	Jul 03 22:11
DaemonFC	MinceR, I considered Rust but it sounds pretty shitty.	Jul 03 22:12
DaemonFC	Not the game. The people who play it.	Jul 03 22:12
MinceR	:>	Jul 03 22:12
DaemonFC	It doesn't sandbox you so you're still trying to make a bow and arrow and all of a sudden all these naked peopel ambush you with assault rifles.	Jul 03 22:12
MinceR	lol	Jul 03 22:12
DaemonFC	Seems like a waste of money.	Jul 03 22:12
MinceR	sounds like i'll just stick with xonotic	Jul 03 22:12
DaemonFC	Steam is so cruel with their video game sales.	Jul 03 22:13
DaemonFC	"$2? I don't want to lose money on this! Give me all of them!".	Jul 03 22:13
DaemonFC	Then you buy like $40-50 worth of games, most of them are crap.	Jul 03 22:14
DaemonFC	You play two of them.	Jul 03 22:14
DaemonFC	I don't buy anything unless the reviews are Very Positive or Overwhelmingly Positive.	Jul 03 22:14
DaemonFC	They have Skyrim on the sale, but John has the XBOX 360 version so I think I'll just play it on that.	Jul 03 22:15
DaemonFC	Never got around to it. I loved Oblivion.	Jul 03 22:15
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TweetTuxMachines	Kubuntu 16.04 LTS Users Receive the Latest KDE Plasma	Jul 03 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines	Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets New Test Build, Adds	Jul 03 22:25
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TweetTuxMachines	Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of	Jul 03 22:26
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TweetTuxMachines	RaspEX OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Updated with OpenCPN 4.4.0,	Jul 04 01:24
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/StOAC54C3O	Jul 04 01:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Arch Linux on ZFS - Embed ZFS in...'		Jul 04 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines	Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets New Test Build, Adds	Jul 04 04:26
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schestowitz	cubexyz: Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of systemd with Linux 4.4.14 LTS http://news.softpedia.com/news/slackware-based-vectorlinux-7-2-beta-ships-free-of-systemd-with-linux-4-4-14-lts-505936.shtml	Jul 04 04:27
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schestowitz	no systemd	Jul 04 04:27
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Australia backflips on Appelbaum stance	Jul 04 04:28
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TweetTuxMachines	Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of	Jul 04 04:28
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TweetTuxMachines	RaspEX OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Updated with OpenCPN 4.4.0,	Jul 04 04:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| RaspEX OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Updated with OpenCPN 4.4.0, Based on Ubuntu 16.04		Jul 04 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749882711561670656	Jul 04 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	Needed: A Linux Three in One Distro	Jul 04 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/p7tIzRYmrd (fossforce.com)	Jul 04 04:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| Needed: A Linux Three in One Distro \| FOSS Force		Jul 04 04:30
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Kubuntu 16.04 LTS Users Receive the Latest KDE...'		Jul 04 04:34
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets New Test Build,...'		Jul 04 04:34
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of systemd...'		Jul 04 04:34
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'RaspEX OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Updated with...'		Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749884300674342912	Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	Slackware Linux 14.2 Released — World’s Oldest Surviving	Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Distribution https://t.co/yZOcTgbak7	Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jul 04 04:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Slackware Linux 14.2 Released With New Features — Download Now		Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749886464696123393	Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi Zero Becomes Mighty Miniature Minecraft	Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	Machine https://t.co/fVvtPkuK4t (hackaday.com)	Jul 04 04:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Raspberry Pi Zero Becomes Mighty Miniature Minecraft Machine \| Hackaday		Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749886786684477440	Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	Apache, Debian crews patch library with DoS vuln	Jul 04 04:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BIfNu1sRVh (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jul 04 04:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749888480868573185	Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	Top 10 Raspberry Pi add-on boards	Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Zgx0cxRrD8 (opensource.com)	Jul 04 04:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749888818636029952	Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	"The Knoppix distribution goes back in time... to provide	Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	an interface for computer users who are blind."	Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gwgZ6nYRAI (opensource.com)	Jul 04 04:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux for the visually impaired: ADRIANE \| Opensource.com		Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749889274942746624	Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	CompuLab Comes Out With New Rugged, Fanless	Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-Friendly PC https://t.co/tn554b12HD	Jul 04 04:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 04:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749897234121056260	Jul 04 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Devices https://t.co/ql1Cpu1dUd	Jul 04 05:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 05:35
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/749899608403378177	Jul 04 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Блин, "Homeservers"... Это ж прям тот самый концепт, который для Mycely собирался реализовать, но застрял пока((( https://t.co/77bi4XaVqt		Jul 04 05:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Distributed, Open Source Chat with Vector and Matrix https://t.co/IuL6TeyM4i #freesw		Jul 04 05:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/749903311197859840	Jul 04 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: Developing countries 'lost' $7.8 trillion in cash 2004-13: #MossackFonseca Wikileaks of the mega-rich #TaxHavens https://t.co/qwpsKbBDsg		Jul 04 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Secret bankers be warned: "Panama Papers" were the first shots of a "Helvetian War." https://t.co/eus2rle9y1 #switzerland #panama		Jul 04 05:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/749904558516736000	Jul 04 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: Nah, it just targets stupid people. Who else would install "firefox-patch"? https://t.co/k7i7TzQnfm		Jul 04 05:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another friendly reminder that running #freesw on top of #malware like #microsoft #windows leaves one exposed https://t.co/29EWYhti62		Jul 04 05:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749899465163759616	Jul 04 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	Testing The Red Hat/Rackspace Private Cloud	Jul 04 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2g7W5P5Obs (dzone.com)	Jul 04 06:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749899618851364864	Jul 04 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	Debian On Chromebooks	Jul 04 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JuzVIl2xGe (error)	Jul 04 06:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749907480403177473	Jul 04 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	8 Android Nougat features worth chewing over	Jul 04 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Q3XRV1BHgO (www.trustedreviews.com)	Jul 04 06:20
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.trustedreviews.com \| 8 Android Nougat features worth chewing over		Jul 04 06:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749918251174486016	Jul 04 06:54
TweetTuxMachines	Javier Igea: How do you Fedora? https://t.co/m7gUKkPkvh	Jul 04 06:54
TweetTuxMachines	(fedoramagazine.org)	Jul 04 06:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749919206779580416	Jul 04 06:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.7 RC6, Things Are	Jul 04 06:55
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Bigger https://t.co/WEJFNgq8H5	Jul 04 06:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749919399205896196	Jul 04 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer Moves to Linux	Jul 04 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	4.6, Adds MIPS64el Support https://t.co/e9YvKdc5mP	Jul 04 06:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920368907816960	Jul 04 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Debian https://t.co/1jnPUTQUqD	Jul 04 06:58
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 06:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920369646051329	Jul 04 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	Javier Igea: How do you Fedora? https://t.co/rIAbTkbDb7	Jul 04 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 06:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920370405175296	Jul 04 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.7 RC6, Things Are	Jul 04 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Bigger https://t.co/lRJbscQ4u4	Jul 04 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 06:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920371424440320	Jul 04 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer Moves to Linux	Jul 04 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	4.6, Adds MIPS64el Support https://t.co/vQz3XIskOA	Jul 04 06:59
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 06:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920372133228544	Jul 04 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/UtssqegwqX	Jul 04 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 07:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749921696300298240	Jul 04 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	Network Security Toolkit (NST) Linux OS Released Based on	Jul 04 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24, Linux 4.6 https://t.co/o63ZfcYTS2	Jul 04 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 04 07:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Network Security Toolkit (NST) Linux OS Released Based on Fedora 24, Linux 4.6		Jul 04 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749922235918548992	Jul 04 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS 2.84 Beta Promises to Fix "Black Screen" Issues	Jul 04 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	with Nvidia GPUs https://t.co/XWTfuSM0GO	Jul 04 07:12
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 04 07:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@AlexaInfo http://twitter.com/AlexaInfo/status/749923641865998336	Jul 04 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo!	Jul 04 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 (paper.li) Thanks to @Continove	Jul 04 07:35
TweetTuxMachines	@danceman @tuxmachines	Jul 04 07:35
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.7 RC6, Things...'		Jul 04 07:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer Moves to Linux...'		Jul 04 07:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Network Security Toolkit (NST) Linux OS Released Based...'		Jul 04 07:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'SteamOS 2.84 Beta Promises to Fix "Black Screen"...'		Jul 04 07:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.7 RC6, Things...'		Jul 04 07:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749941564642725888	Jul 04 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Network Security Toolkit (NST) Linux OS Released Based on	Jul 04 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24, Linux 4.6 https://t.co/L6MA5BfPy8	Jul 04 09:30
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DusWatNou/status/749951164976947200	Jul 04 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@DusWatNou: Heb je wat aan... https://t.co/1ZdNbInVNm		Jul 04 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Boris Johnson has said he will apologise on national television" https://t.co/50KZhwbIVv I'm still waiting for Bo Jo the Clown to apologise		Jul 04 12:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750006356967563264	Jul 04 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	IBM's SoftLayer cloud gets certified Ubuntu Linux 16.04	Jul 04 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	LTS images https://t.co/yUC7vXO6we (www.v3.co.uk)	Jul 04 12:45
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk \| IBM's SoftLayer cloud gets certified Ubuntu Linux 16.04 LTS images \| V3		Jul 04 12:45
TweetTuxMachines	@AlexaInfo http://twitter.com/gtpintado/status/750007721752166400	Jul 04 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo!	Jul 04 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	@gtpintado https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 (paper.li) Thanks to @Continove	Jul 04 12:46
TweetTuxMachines	@danceman @tuxmachines	Jul 04 12:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @AlexaSocial retweeted @AlexaInfo: 'The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo! https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 Thanks...'		Jul 04 12:46
*TweetTuxMachines @Alexa_Movil retweeted @AlexaInfo: 'The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo! https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 Thanks...'		Jul 04 12:46
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*TweetTuxMachines @AlexaDigital retweeted @AlexaInfo: 'The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo! https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 Thanks...'		Jul 04 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750010847188115460	Jul 04 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	Get ready to be scared again as Layers of Fear:	Jul 04 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	Inheritance DLC has been announced	Jul 04 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kHT7nDHbc9 (www.gamingonlinux.com) "Linux	Jul 04 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	support on August 2nd."	Jul 04 13:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 04 13:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Get ready to be scared again as Layers of Fear: Inheritance DLC has been announced \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 04 13:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750013430720004096	Jul 04 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	Future of Li-f-e: Linux for Education distribution	Jul 04 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/j5qDqukli2 (lizards.opensuse.org)	Jul 04 13:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750014858230398976	Jul 04 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	Snappy Moves in the Main Arch Linux Repo, snapd 2.0.10	Jul 04 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	Released to Fedora COPR https://t.co/IHqC5hqX1y	Jul 04 13:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750016067397967873	Jul 04 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Stretch Successor To Be Codenamed Bullseye	Jul 04 13:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GkMrmLKrza (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 13:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750016361691246592	Jul 04 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	Four More Changes Proposed For Fedora 25	Jul 04 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/f1xDpIFY4s (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 13:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 04 13:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750017820340215810	Jul 04 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	Bcachefs Still Being Developed As A Next-Gen Linux	Jul 04 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	File-System https://t.co/MxkCLUGMR4 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 13:38
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/glynmoody/status/750028757923160064	Jul 04 14:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@glynmoody: .@Vecchi_Paolo nice: from EU to EW....		Jul 04 14:09
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038738697281536	Jul 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/qb6CfMd1DQ	Jul 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 14:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038739590590464	Jul 04 14:49
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/UzW9BIiSTe	Jul 04 14:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038740307894272	Jul 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	The Growth of the Linux and Open Source Channel since	Jul 04 14:52
TweetTuxMachines	1989 https://t.co/GeZQLk4gXy (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 14:52
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Auto explored: Taking Google on the road	Jul 04 14:58
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TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24 Release Party in Sao Paulo	Jul 04 14:59
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DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/comcast-boosts-data-cap-from-300gb-to-1tb-unlimited-data-will-cost-50/	Jul 04 15:46
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DaemonFC	Yeah, and they slipped in a price hike of $10 for every tier right after announcing that.	Jul 04 15:46
DaemonFC	They always find a way to cheat you.	Jul 04 15:46
DaemonFC	The cap was never about congestion. It was about Comcast not wanting to have to compete with Netflix.	Jul 04 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750041158072594432	Jul 04 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750041383096942592	Jul 04 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) Released. See what’s New?	Jul 04 15:47
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DaemonFC	I stopped using Chrome largely because Google won't allow extensions that block its own ads in Youtube.	Jul 04 15:50
schestowitz	yeah, not just that	Jul 04 15:52
schestowitz	it's a proprietary web browser	Jul 04 15:52
schestowitz	DaemonFC: happy fireworks day BTW	Jul 04 15:53
DaemonFC	thanks	Jul 04 15:53
XRevan86	DaemonFC: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm like this one?	Jul 04 15:54
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DaemonFC	XRevan86, If you upload an ad blocker that can block ads in Youtube, Google will ban it from the Chrome store.	Jul 04 15:55
XRevan86	DaemonFC: But this one can, can it?	Jul 04 15:55
DaemonFC	If it could then it wouldn't be there.	Jul 04 15:55
XRevan86	or should it be a sole-purpose of the extention to block youtube ads?	Jul 04 15:56
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I never checked how it works on Chromium, though. On Firefox it definitely does.	Jul 04 15:56
DaemonFC	Well, I assume that if you install an ad blocker, it's because you don't want to see any ads.	Jul 04 15:56
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I mean, on YouTube only.	Jul 04 15:59
DaemonFC	I've seen Firefox extensions that only block Youtube ads.	Jul 04 16:00
XRevan86	or rather, explicitly blocking on YouTube	Jul 04 16:00
XRevan86	uBlock blocks ads but never mentions YouTube specifically on its page	Jul 04 16:00
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I checked: uBlock Origin blocks YouTube ads with a completely default settings on Chromium.	Jul 04 16:04
XRevan86	So at least that %).	Jul 04 16:04
XRevan86	Maybe if Google would find out, all general-purpose ad blockers will go away too.	Jul 04 16:04
cubexyz	most of the time I'm using firefox	Jul 04 16:06
cubexyz	except if the computer is very old... then dillo or lynx	Jul 04 16:06
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I stopped using Chrom(e\|ium) largely because it eats RAM big time and is not customisable enough.	Jul 04 16:08
DaemonFC	My next PC might be an all in one.	Jul 04 16:08
DaemonFC	I'm tired of this rat's nest of cables and cords and stuff.	Jul 04 16:08
XRevan86	Google's name on it also doesn't help, yes.	Jul 04 16:08
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TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma Wayland Image Now Built on KDE Neon	Jul 04 19:06
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cubexyz	ok, here is what we run at the computer lab here:	Jul 04 19:12
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/computer-lab-current-os.txt	Jul 04 19:12
DaemonFC	Steam is updating.... The most annoying part about Steam.	Jul 04 19:15
cubexyz	btw I just learned today that kobo publishes their source code repo on github, so that's a thumbs up from me:	Jul 04 19:27
cubexyz	https://github.com/kobolabs	Jul 04 19:27
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razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 04 19:27
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jul 04 19:29
DaemonFC	Just now · Chicago ·	Jul 04 19:29
DaemonFC	Some files were found in the Windows 10 Anniversary update indicating that Windows might be going to a "subscription" model.	Jul 04 19:29
DaemonFC	Microsoft has denied that it has anything to do with Windows Home or Pro editions. It's just a way for companies to subscribe to "Enterprise Edition" features.	Jul 04 19:29
DaemonFC	Now, that might be true (for now), but a problem that Microsoft has always had is "How do you get people to pay for a Windows update when the version they have operates their computer just fine?". Even more, how do you get them to pay for a shit upgrade like Vista or 8 when they don't want it?	Jul 04 19:29
DaemonFC	Well, Windows 10 forced updates and a "pay for a subscription or the computer stops working" system could solve both of their problems. If the update screws up your computer, then oh well. They still get your money.	Jul 04 19:29
DaemonFC	I'll keep my options in mind if they proceed to a subscription model. I used Fedora Linux for close to ten years without running Windows on my computer at all. Wine doesn't have perfect Windows simulation, but it's not terrible. Almost all of the really popular Windows apps work. Then there's the fact that Steam is on Linux natively now (Steam OS is a version of Debian), and so are about 40% of the games.	Jul 04 19:29
DaemonFC	When I get paid again, I'm considering getting a really large capacity SSD and transferring my files over from the hard disk I've been using as D drive (for massive files that won't fit on my SSD that the OS lives on, and then installing Linux.	Jul 04 19:29
DaemonFC	Windows 10 really pissed me off this morning. I had made good progress in a game, including defeating a boss, and then Windows 10 gives me this goddamn blue screen with, I shit you not, " :( Herp derp, your computer has stopped working.".	Jul 04 19:30
DaemonFC	Well, not an exact quote, but it did really have a :( in the error message. The fuck?	Jul 04 19:30
cubexyz	D drive, really? :)	Jul 04 19:31
cubexyz	I hope you mean /mnt/d :)	Jul 04 19:31
cubexyz	hold on, I got a windows error for you...	Jul 04 19:33
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.png	Jul 04 19:33
razielle_tzu	aren't the BSODs just as bad?	Jul 04 19:34
cubexyz	it's a general dumbing down really	Jul 04 19:36
cubexyz	people get these useless error messages, and then the BSOD itself is unrecoverable...	Jul 04 19:38
razielle_tzu	i've not seen a BSOD yet so i don't know how little info they actually have	Jul 04 19:38
DaemonFC	I got a BSoD while I was playing Borderlands 2.	Jul 04 19:39
DaemonFC	Then my computer restarted and hung after the bootsplash.	Jul 04 19:39
DaemonFC	So I had to hold down the power button and then turn it back on.	Jul 04 19:39
DaemonFC	Probably a driver error.	Jul 04 19:39
DaemonFC	I'm guessing the Radeon display driver because of course it would be.	Jul 04 19:40
DaemonFC	Microsoft is supposed to check them for "quality" before they get pushed down to users, but in reality they cause all kinds of problems because they're completely full of bugs.	Jul 04 19:40
cubexyz	mainframes actually handle errors far better than what we have	Jul 04 19:41
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> I got a BSoD while I was playing Borderlands 2.	Jul 04 19:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Then my computer restarted and hung after the bootsplash.	Jul 04 19:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> So I had to hold down the power button and then turn it back on.	Jul 04 19:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Probably a driver error.	Jul 04 19:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> I'm guessing the Radeon display driver because of course it would be.	Jul 04 19:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Microsoft is supposed to check them for "quality" before they get pushed down to users, but in reality they cause all kinds of problems because they're completely full of bugs.	Jul 04 19:43
DaemonFC	oops	Jul 04 19:43
DaemonFC	They've literally patched hundreds of bugs in Windows 10 and it still does many of the same annoying things that the first build did.	Jul 04 19:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750105701884755968	Jul 04 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	PCLinuxOS 2016.07 "MATE" has just been released	Jul 04 19:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tXW5qSHTwY (www.pclinuxos.com)	Jul 04 19:43
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DaemonFC	I keep getting bad updates that brick the search system.	Jul 04 19:43
cubexyz	yout want a Linux box that doesn't crash? Build it with top of the line parts, plus add more $$$ for a good UPS, then run text only	Jul 04 19:44
razielle_tzu	someone in another channel i'm in is trying to claim that secondary and tertiary timings on some ram is the likely cause of sporadic BSODs they're experiencing... i'm finding nothing on ANY site to suggest this is even possible	Jul 04 19:44
DaemonFC	A bad RAM module can cause random errors.	Jul 04 19:45
DaemonFC	Of course, so can a bad CMOS battery.	Jul 04 19:45
cubexyz	RAM modules can fail due to overheating	Jul 04 19:45
razielle_tzu	sure but it being due to secondary and tertiray timings?	Jul 04 19:45
DaemonFC	I had a bad battery once that was causing sporadic kernel panics.	Jul 04 19:45
DaemonFC	I don't think that would be likely.	Jul 04 19:45
cubexyz	fan failure -> overheating -> ram failure	Jul 04 19:46
cubexyz	simple	Jul 04 19:46
DaemonFC	If you have mismatched RAM, you could have problems.	Jul 04 19:46
DaemonFC	The motherboard is supposed to figure it out, but there's no standard behavior for that situation.	Jul 04 19:46
razielle_tzu	two ram kits, same manufacturer just different years	Jul 04 19:47
DaemonFC	I have quite a few fans in my system. An intake, and outtake, the power supply fan, the CPU fan...	Jul 04 19:47
DaemonFC	Overheating hasn't been an issue.	Jul 04 19:47
DaemonFC	Oh, and two in the graphics card. :P	Jul 04 19:47
cubexyz	I've seen HP laserjet fans last 20 years, so fans can last a long time, but if they do fail stuff can overheat	Jul 04 19:53
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 04 19:55
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DaemonFC	I've seen hard drives last 25 years.	Jul 04 20:03
DaemonFC	Most of them don't.	Jul 04 20:03
razielle_tzu	not any more	Jul 04 20:03
cubexyz	sure, I own a couple like that :)	Jul 04 20:03
cubexyz	Quantum 49mb LP52S in my Amiga	Jul 04 20:03
DaemonFC	Heat is a big factor in how long they work.	Jul 04 20:03
DaemonFC	Getting as much heat out of the case as you can is important.	Jul 04 20:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750118031641047041	Jul 04 20:04
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cubexyz	and those old external drives had................... fans :)	Jul 04 20:04
cubexyz	well, at least one fan anyway	Jul 04 20:04
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 04 20:04
cubexyz	it's not quite fair to compare my Quantum drive from 1990 to the newer stuff though	Jul 04 20:05
cubexyz	for one thing, I turn the amiga on only once per month	Jul 04 20:05
cubexyz	the server runs 24/7	Jul 04 20:06
cubexyz	but I know it has a Seagate ST340810A which was made in 2001	Jul 04 20:06
DaemonFC	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bailing-after-brexit-uk-independence-party-leader-farage-quits_us_577a4672e4b04164641064ca	Jul 04 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huffingtonpost.com \| Bailing After Brexit: UK Independence Party Leader Farage Quits [ http://ur1.ca/peri0 ]		Jul 04 20:07
DaemonFC	The UK has been getting all of the benefits of membership in the EU while avoiding most of the obligations.	Jul 04 20:07
DaemonFC	They're going to regret leaving.	Jul 04 20:07
cubexyz	can't they just change their minds?	Jul 04 20:08
DaemonFC	Ratings agencies have downgraded the credit rating of the UK to the same level as the US state of Illinois, which has the worst rating in the US.	Jul 04 20:08
DaemonFC	And the outlook is negative. One of them even said it's going to watch to see if the Pound ceases to be a significant reserve currency over this.	Jul 04 20:09
cubexyz	they could reverse Brexit if they really wanted to	Jul 04 20:09
DaemonFC	cubexyz, I guess they could. Article 50 hasn't been invoked yet, but some of the other member countries just want them to leave as quickly as possible.	Jul 04 20:09
cubexyz	have parliament vote on it	Jul 04 20:10
DaemonFC	bbl	Jul 04 20:11
DaemonFC	Time to go catch my train	Jul 04 20:11
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cubexyz	bah, even kobo isn't 100% foss	Jul 04 20:14
schestowitz	of course not..	Jul 04 20:20
schestowitz	few things are these days	Jul 04 20:20
schestowitz	hybrids	Jul 04 20:20
schestowitz	was kobo canadian?	Jul 04 20:20
cubexyz	yes	Jul 04 20:20
schestowitz	i remember reading something in cnet about it years ago	Jul 04 20:21
cubexyz	well, I guess now it's a subsidiary of Rakuten in Japan	Jul 04 20:21
cubexyz	but the headquarters is still in Toronto	Jul 04 20:21
cubexyz	I don't really have a good ereader device	Jul 04 20:22
cubexyz	also there's Kobo Arc which runs Android...	Jul 04 20:23
cubexyz	a bit pricey though	Jul 04 20:24
cubexyz	the old one was Kobo Vox, maybe I could get a used one cheap	Jul 04 20:25
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DaemonFC	A guy tried to mug us on the way back from the fireworks.	Jul 05 00:18
DaemonFC	They do something to piss you off so you'll chase them down an alley.	Jul 05 00:18
DaemonFC	This guy got in John's face and smacked his drink out of his hand and then ran off. Then when he realized we weren't chasing him, he started shouting at us.	Jul 05 00:18
DaemonFC	I asked John who would be dumb enough to go chase them down a dark alley. He said foreign tourists.	Jul 05 00:19
DaemonFC	Okay, I think Valve is playing "Let's see how many times we can update Steam for no reason this week." again.	Jul 05 00:27
TweetTuxMachines	@ipfconline1 http://twitter.com/ipfconline1/status/750174955141115905	Jul 05 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #thanks for sharing about ecommerce, have a	Jul 05 01:17
TweetTuxMachines	great Tuesday :) (Want this 🆓? >>	Jul 05 01:17
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750196831603167232	Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Touch OTA-13 to Introduce a New Power Manager for	Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Phones, Tablets https://t.co/omQxU9AfFB	Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 04:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-13 to Introduce a New Power Manager for Ubuntu Phones, Tablets \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750196832311971841	Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 and 8.5 Get the Latest Debian	Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	Security Fixes, Update Now https://t.co/rlVGcHkJft	Jul 05 04:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 04:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/750243040774807552	Jul 05 04:26
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Today in Techrights https://t.co/h0tMgRgYEi	Jul 05 04:26
TweetTuxMachines	@schestowitz (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 04:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 04:26
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 and 8.5 Get the Latest...'		Jul 05 04:28
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-13 to Introduce a New Power...'		Jul 05 04:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750245020201000960	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Touch OTA-13 to Introduce a New Power Manager for	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Phones, Tablets https://t.co/khsTKczV8A	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 04:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu Touch OTA-13 to Introduce a New Power Manager for Ubuntu Phones, Tablets - Exclusive		Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750245212962885632	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 and 8.5 Get the Latest Debian	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	Security Fixes, Update Now https://t.co/SaQ2CATXN2	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 04:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 and 8.5 Get the Latest Debian Security Fixes, Update Now		Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750245819207614464	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	The Windows Zealot https://t.co/mBOM38zHsT	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	(fossforce.com)	Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 04:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com \| The Windows Zealot \| FOSS Force		Jul 05 04:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750246376274006016	Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny Core 7.2 released https://t.co/FYJF5XDT7v	Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tinycorelinux.net)	Jul 05 05:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tinycorelinux.net \| Tiny Core Linux, Micro Core Linux, 12MB Linux GUI Desktop, Live, Frugal, Extendable		Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750259260508901377	Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	The Windows Zealot https://t.co/uh6AtzcCpJ	Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 05:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Windows Zealot \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750259261326827520	Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	Sources: Microsoft Tried To Buy Docker for $4B	Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LRw7JxvBzF (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 05:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Sources: Microsoft Tried To Buy Docker for $4B \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 05:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750260560151871488	Jul 05 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat is open – to doing business with the NSA	Jul 05 06:04
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8kKxwfsLtg (www.itwire.com)	Jul 05 06:04
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 06:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Red Hat is open – to doing business with the NSA		Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750263780664340480	Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	PCLinuxOS 64 2016.07 MATE Edition Lands with Linux Kernel	Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	4.6.3 and MATE 1.14.1 https://t.co/yzUhq7Bsxh	Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| PCLinuxOS 64 2016.07 MATE Edition Lands with Linux Kernel 4.6.3 and MATE 1.14.1		Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750264717894123520	Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	Managing your containers at Google scale	Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RCnnqbbL1Q (opensource.com)	Jul 05 06:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Manage your Linux containers like Google \| Opensource.com		Jul 05 06:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-13 to Introduce a New Power...'		Jul 05 06:05
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/750270106618310656	Jul 05 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: "don't use a proprietary OS like iOS" esp. if you're a #FOSS evangelist & founder of a successful #GNU/#Linux distro https://t.co/vDTlDHueKv		Jul 05 06:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Security Tips Every Signal User Should Know https://t.co/iMUvan23KQ number one should be, don't use a proprietary OS like iOS		Jul 05 06:09
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 and 8.5 Get the Latest...'		Jul 05 06:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'PCLinuxOS 64 2016.07 MATE Edition Lands with Linux...'		Jul 05 06:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750276816489811968	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Officially Released, Available for	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	Download Now https://t.co/wZjj5dtyMX (news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Officially Released, Available for Download Now		Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750277331051225088	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	Debian 8 Gets New Kernel Update, Five Vulnerabilities and	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	a Regression Patched https://t.co/VQuyRGsjJj	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Debian 8 Gets New Kernel Update, Five Vulnerabilities and a Regression Patched		Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750277690075283456	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	Exton\|Defender OS Rebased on Fedora 24, Gets Cinnamon	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	3.0.6 & Linux Kernel 4.6.3 https://t.co/XPAP2PsmnU	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 06:49
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 06:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Exton\|Defender OS Rebased on Fedora 24, Gets Cinnamon 3.0.6 & Linux Kernel 4.6.3		Jul 05 06:49
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Officially Released, Available for...'		Jul 05 06:49
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian 8 Gets New Kernel Update, Five Vulnerabilities...'		Jul 05 06:49
schestowitz	http://commondreams.org/newswire/2016/07/01/strike-nearly-1000-trump-taj-mahal-workers-walk-job-ahead-atlantic-citys-biggest	Jul 05 07:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-commondreams.org \| STRIKE! Nearly 1,000 Trump Taj Mahal Workers Walk-Off Job Ahead of Atlantic City’s Biggest Weekend of the Year \| Common Dreams \| Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community		Jul 05 07:10
schestowitz	"The strike at the Trump Taj Mahal— a casino owned by billionaire Carl Icahn — follows on the heels of tentative agreements with the Tropicana and Caesars Entertainment, which owns Atlantic City’s Caesars, Harrah’s and Bally’s."	Jul 05 07:10
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Exton\|Defender OS Rebased on Fedora 24, Gets Cinnamon...'		Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750296094026919936	Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	#BleachBit 1.12 Free System Cleaner Brings Support for	Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	#Ubuntu 16.04, #Fedora 24 https://t.co/2TaAHoqO89	Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| BleachBit 1.12 Free System Cleaner Brings Support for Ubuntu 16.04, Fedora 24		Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750296663152033793	Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	Lumenera Corporation Announces the Release of Their	Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	‘Lumenera Linux SDK 2.1’ https://t.co/YWneqp8HGe	Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.pressreleaserocket.net)	Jul 05 07:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pressreleaserocket.net \| Lumenera Corporation Announces the Release of Their ‘Lumenera Linux SDK 2.1’ - Press Release Rocket		Jul 05 07:54
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 07:54
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#BleachBit 1.12 Free System Cleaner Brings Support for...'		Jul 05 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750305392492699648	Jul 05 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour	Jul 05 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pqaf2aDjty (linuxblog.darkduck.com)	Jul 05 08:33
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com \| Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour - Linux notes from DarkDuck		Jul 05 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750306029053747204	Jul 05 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	Installation Guide of Linux Mint 18 Codename ‘Sarah’ with	Jul 05 08:33
TweetTuxMachines	Screenshots https://t.co/w1D9DKkoqO (www.tecmint.com)	Jul 05 08:33
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com \| Installation Guide of Linux Mint 18 Codename 'Sarah' with Screenshots		Jul 05 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750306676629204993	Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	Planet Centauri, another 2D sandbox RPG with crafting	Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	available for Linux https://t.co/bv7rrWgYxX	Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Planet Centauri, another 2D sandbox RPG with crafting available for Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750307636634066944	Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	Humble Store is doing a DRM-Freedom sale with some great	Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux deals https://t.co/gSHN2916Uw	Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Humble Store is doing a DRM-Freedom sale with some great Linux deals \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 05 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750308507111530496	Jul 05 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.7 https://t.co/mwNHZwfi0L (jriddell.org)	Jul 05 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Jj38QhMpiO (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 05 08:42
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org \| Plasma Wayland Image Update \| Jonathan Riddell's Diary		Jul 05 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma 5.7 Due Today, A Video About It & More - Phoronix		Jul 05 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750308793343414272	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	KDE neon 5.7 https://t.co/uTroUC55W5 (jriddell.org)	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org \| KDE neon 5.7 \| Jonathan Riddell's Diary		Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309015238959104	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.7 Release https://t.co/KllwEbeGLA	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.kde.org)	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org \| KDE - KDE Plasma 5.7 Release		Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309563338031104	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Libertine: Allowing X11 Debian Packages To Run On The	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Next-Gen Ubuntu Desktop https://t.co/fAdKGCm43h	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libertine: Allowing X11 Debian Packages To Run On The Next-Gen Ubuntu Desktop - Phoronix		Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309767327805441	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3RHLwPWeur (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309768040853504	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/lp8yBxBuOf	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309768800063488	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/L8Vs1bOb11	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309769508823040	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.7 Release https://t.co/5kMBgaS4lj	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 08:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Plasma 5.7 Release \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 08:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309770255437824	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Debian https://t.co/cYqKyuLk6A	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Debian \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750310878420037632	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu’s Snap Arrives on Arch’s Community Repo	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e9C1MLyE0F (news.tecmint.com)	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tecmint.com \| Ubuntu's Snap Arrives on Arch's Community Repo		Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750311366808989696	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung begins Production of Tizen Z2 Smartphone, October	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	2016 release date https://t.co/fhNcg53RWa	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jul 05 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Samsung begins Production of Tizen Z2 Smartphone, October 2016 release date - Tizen Experts		Jul 05 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750320970829799424	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	Links 5/7/2016: KDE Plasma 5.7 Released, GSK Demystified	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OoHVy6XTOX (techrights.org)	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 5/7/2016: KDE Plasma 5.7 Released, GSK Demystified \| Techrights		Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750333529100161024	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/uW54H61LcK	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 10:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750333530299772928	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	Android Security https://t.co/BDjljrBKZE	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 10:20
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 10:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750333531721576452	Jul 05 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/zLuhgCL0zv	Jul 05 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 11:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750333532485013504	Jul 05 11:37
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/Lr7ySCDtql	Jul 05 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 11:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750352322962808833	Jul 05 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat Wants To Repeat The Magic of Linux With	Jul 05 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	Containers https://t.co/4teFzHYAJH (www.forbes.com)	Jul 05 11:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Forbes Welcome		Jul 05 11:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750352926116290564	Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	AMD has you covered: Its new Linux graphics driver	Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	already supports the Radeon RX 480	Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FR6xopkEKp (www.pcworld.com)	Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD has you covered: Its new Linux graphics driver already supports the Radeon RX 480 \| PCWorld		Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750356513974259713	Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	digiKam 5.0.0 Powerful Image Editor Officially Released,	Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	Ported to Qt5 https://t.co/s6TYZgja25	Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 11:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| digiKam 5.0.0 Powerful Image Editor Officially Released, Ported to Qt5		Jul 05 11:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750356814391369728	Jul 05 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.7 coverage https://t.co/02E1B98GCa	Jul 05 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	(dot.kde.org) https://t.co/tn9eSlpdJh	Jul 05 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/zB4HgLQfcQ	Jul 05 12:08
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 12:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| KDE Plasma 5.7 \| KDE.news		Jul 05 12:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 12:08
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SebthreeBQM10HD	hi	Jul 05 15:18
razielle_tzu	o/	Jul 05 15:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, hi	Jul 05 15:18
razielle_tzu	how are you?	Jul 05 15:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	ok you?	Jul 05 15:19
razielle_tzu	pretty good	Jul 05 15:19
cubexyz	what does BQM10HD mean?	Jul 05 15:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	cataching up on a TV show	Jul 05 15:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	only about two days left on the thing	Jul 05 15:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, its the Ubuntu tablet I am using	Jul 05 15:20
cubexyz	ah	Jul 05 15:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	BQ company	Jul 05 15:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	type of tablet M10	Jul 05 15:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	and there's two versions of the M10 the Full HD in black, and the HD in Whie	Jul 05 15:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	using the HD, will buy the FHD later on this year as well :/)	Jul 05 15:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	the HD being the version that isn't quite as good as the other one or so they say	Jul 05 15:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, who am I?	Jul 05 15:22
razielle_tzu	the last time we spoke you had joined with the name sebsebseb	Jul 05 15:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, h eh yeah my usual name	Jul 05 15:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I guess not as much now since	Jul 05 15:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	using the tablet mostly for IRC	Jul 05 15:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	etc	Jul 05 15:23
razielle_tzu	fair enough	Jul 05 15:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	f thoug	Jul 05 15:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm	Jul 05 15:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	did that come out in lots of white space?	Jul 05 15:24
razielle_tzu	there was some yeah	Jul 05 15:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah some issue with the irc client etc	Jul 05 15:25
razielle_tzu	which client?	Jul 05 15:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	sucky xchat gnome, but done the interesting UBuntu tablet way	Jul 05 15:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	as in I am running a standard ARM program	Jul 05 15:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	instead of native	Jul 05 15:26
razielle_tzu	ah, yeah the arm version of xchat can be kinda buggy	Jul 05 15:26
*SebthreeBQM10HD thought Libertine was more interesting when he thought it was standard Desktop Linux programs from the normal computer, but no they are arm ports		Jul 05 15:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	there's a thing in Ubuntu Touch calld Libertine which uses the xmir to bring Firefox and Libre OFfice and what not over	Jul 05 15:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it's a bit of a sucky client really, I prefer Konversation	Jul 05 15:27
razielle_tzu	i usually use either quassel or irssi	Jul 05 15:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	maybe I could run that, but would need to do hacking to Libertine or whatever at the moment still	Jul 05 15:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah quassel is ok to, but still prefer konversation	Jul 05 15:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway thoght I would come to IRC since there's a council meeting going on for my other distro	Jul 05 15:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	no I am not on the council anymore for that, but well find out things in those meetings etc	Jul 05 15:28
razielle_tzu	i have quassel installed on most of my machines and my phone, i run a core on a server to make sure i don't miss anything :D	Jul 05 15:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	what does your phone run?	Jul 05 15:29
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks this TV show isn't that good really, so good to do something else at same time really		Jul 05 15:29
DaemonFC	hexchat maybe?	Jul 05 15:29
razielle_tzu	a ROM called NightOwl	Jul 05 15:29
*SebthreeBQM10HD has a little brother that likes it a lot though		Jul 05 15:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	a ROM oh, what's NightOWL then? based on Android or ?	Jul 05 15:30
razielle_tzu	yeah, android	Jul 05 15:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I think something like Ubuntu Touch that's interesting hope that becomes more of a thing	Jul 05 15:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	however actusally Android hmm	Jul 05 15:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	well some intereinsg things have happended since Android as well	Jul 05 15:30
razielle_tzu	it is but for the models of phone i have there's no installer image, just prebuilt testers	Jul 05 15:30
razielle_tzu	so touch is useless to me for the most part	Jul 05 15:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I got a awesome chinese/hong kong gaming tablet quite recently that runs Android with their stuff	Jul 05 15:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	you have tried UBuntu Touch on something?	Jul 05 15:31
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SebthreeBQM10HD	indeed it's the BQ or Meizu phones or sticking Ubuntu Touch on a Nexu 7 for example if got	Jul 05 15:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	a guy is porting it to the one pluss three as well	Jul 05 15:31
razielle_tzu	yeah, i tested it on my Tab2 and my s3 mini but both weere only dev/tester builds. no option to install and config for my own use	Jul 05 15:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh got a s3 mini as well :)	Jul 05 15:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah I got one of those but that wa since the nexus 7 or whatever sold out at the time so I went for that instead	Jul 05 15:32
razielle_tzu	my main phone is the Note	Jul 05 15:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	my main phone since some time last year has been the Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu Edition :)	Jul 05 15:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I don't need to run lots of apps on a smart phone, so that's fine	Jul 05 15:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	and got computer, and other devices	Jul 05 15:34
razielle_tzu	i don't use my phone for much any more, just keeping in contact with people and maybe as an e-reader if my kindle is dead	Jul 05 15:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah bingo	Jul 05 15:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, got a computer yep, two even sure maybe more een if old ones that don't quite work count ok	Jul 05 15:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	got four smart phones	Jul 05 15:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	five	Jul 05 15:41
razielle_tzu	i've got about 7 computers i can use and tw osmart phones	Jul 05 15:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	well the S3 Mini	Jul 05 15:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	old one	Jul 05 15:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	BQ E5 Ubuntu Ediiton	Jul 05 15:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh	Jul 05 15:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	4.5 I mean	Jul 05 15:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	first commerical Ubuntu phone that one. thought I had lost htat but turned up earlier htis year so :)	Jul 05 15:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	a Firefox phone yep as well. and a jolla phone that should do more with again really	Jul 05 15:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	old nokia or two I guess some where if that counts, even a old Android 2 phone someon gave me, a old nokia tablet soene gave me evne, not using those two devices really	Jul 05 15:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	the old net book yep	Jul 05 15:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	an IPad Air which needs my guy to look at it again and fix it up hardware issues, the screen had cracked. I got the intreing Remix OS tablet and remix minis. I got the chip glad I crowd funded that	Jul 05 15:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	an oldish android tablet that some charging issue so can't really use that.	Jul 05 15:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	and this Android gaming tablet thing. etc etc yep yep who needs a pc now, not so much me, who needs a phone not me	Jul 05 15:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I mainly use a phone to call and textk, and little web browsing at times	Jul 05 15:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	so Ubuntu Phone is more than fine for that	Jul 05 15:45
razielle_tzu	i prefer a computer to a tablet most of the time	Jul 05 15:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	well I got the Logitech k480	Jul 05 15:45
razielle_tzu	if i'm going anywhere for more than a few hours i take one of my laptops with me	Jul 05 15:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	blueetooth keyboard which is really nice, has a thing to put the tablet so it's a stand, and the keyboard is great, that's the black one, but I will buy the white one as well	Jul 05 15:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	the net book wasn't to bad to take around, but has some hardware issus really, so that just stays here	Jul 05 15:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	the HP lap top I have as a newer lap top is well more big and bulky	Jul 05 15:46
razielle_tzu	i'm partial to my ibm thinkpad T60	Jul 05 15:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	even going up and down the stairs in the house with lap tops is annoying enough, I like lite wiaght etc	Jul 05 15:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	up and down the stairs or out and about with a Ubuntu tablet and the LOgitech k480 much better	Jul 05 15:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I think a computer an actsual computer x86/x864 yes 32bit or 64bit	Jul 05 15:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	is only really needed for more specific things	Jul 05 15:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	otherwise tabets and even smart phones are fine now	Jul 05 15:47
razielle_tzu	they are, all i said was that i prefer a computer to a tablet most of the time	Jul 05 15:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, if you want to virtual machine which I do at times, operating systems made for a PC, wel then your going to need a PC really for example	Jul 05 15:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	if your doing Cad or some prper graphics desing or something then your better off on a PC really	Jul 05 15:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	but for web browsing, email, IRC, listening to musich, watching video, you should be fine on a tablet or even smart phone	Jul 05 15:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I mostly do basic things	Jul 05 15:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	well ok I am going to start play8ing more games at times it seems older games, since I got that gaming tablet, but with the exception of that, I am mostly doing basic things. I do use Virtualbox for fun or to try out some os at itmes though	Jul 05 15:50
cubexyz	I miss the X11 part with streamers/tablets	Jul 05 15:50
cubexyz	one of the old zauruses had X11	Jul 05 15:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz what do you mean or reffering to ?	Jul 05 15:51
cubexyz	X11... the X window system	Jul 05 15:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh that's still in tablets or uhmm	Jul 05 15:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	well	Jul 05 15:52
cubexyz	you know, that thing MIT invented? :)	Jul 05 15:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	ok Jolla tablet a few lucky few got that, but the phone uses wayland	Jul 05 15:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	Ubuntu tablet has Mir	Jul 05 15:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	and phone	Jul 05 15:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	Desktop Linux is still mostly xorg for now, but things are going towards Wayland for most	Jul 05 15:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	and some that aren't Ubuntu will go Mir as well I guess	Jul 05 15:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	yep xorg is on it's way out	Jul 05 15:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	but slowly	Jul 05 15:54
cubexyz	ah, I'd disagree with you there	Jul 05 15:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, apparntly it's not so secure now as well, shows it's age etc	Jul 05 15:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	doesn't work so well security wise with Ubuntu snaps for example	Jul 05 15:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	even the xorg developers them selves are trying to replace it they started Wayland	Jul 05 15:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz Fedora Core 1 is old skool as well	Jul 05 15:58
cubexyz	do you think all the X11 window managers will be re-written? I doubt it	Jul 05 15:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, nope old things will die	Jul 05 15:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	or	Jul 05 15:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	find a way to live on some how, via I don't know xmir maybe	Jul 05 15:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	and something for wyaland to	Jul 05 15:59
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razielle_tzu	there are still plenty of people that use X11 in their day to day work and a compositor isn't always going to be able to provide the same functionality	Jul 05 16:00
cubexyz	NASA uses X11 :)	Jul 05 16:01
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, cubexyz most distros for now still use X11, but it on the verge of being replaced by default with Wayland or Mir	Jul 05 16:01
razielle_tzu	most are going to go with Wayland over Mir	Jul 05 16:01
razielle_tzu	afaik only Ubuntu and maybe some of its spin-offs are going with Mir	Jul 05 16:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yep I have put stuff like that to	Jul 05 16:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	I just did as well or soething	Jul 05 16:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	most will go to Wayland	Jul 05 16:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	only Ubuntu will do Mir and a few based on it possibly	Jul 05 16:02
cubexyz	that's a very Linux-centric viewpoint, I have to support quite a number of bsd boxes...	Jul 05 16:04
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, we were talking Linux werne't we	Jul 05 16:04
razielle_tzu	i use free- and pc-bsd from time to time too	Jul 05 16:04
SebthreeBQM10HD	BSD wil have x11 or wahtever sure	Jul 05 16:04
cubexyz	I was talking about X11	Jul 05 16:04
razielle_tzu	bsd won't move from X11 for a long time to come	Jul 05 16:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess Wayland can come to BSD as well	Jul 05 16:05
razielle_tzu	wayland or another compositor would likely be an optional install for specific DEs, whereas most users of BSD would still be using X11 (if they use anything but TTYs) for most things	Jul 05 16:07
cubexyz	well, I guess the distro maintainers will decide what they'll do	Jul 05 16:08
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 05 16:09
cubexyz	I'm not porting Wayland to FC1, I know that :)	Jul 05 16:12
razielle_tzu	i wouldn't either	Jul 05 16:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	not many use FC1 stil but that guy does	Jul 05 16:13
cubexyz	would you play Scarlatti sonatas on a piano? :)	Jul 05 16:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	no sinc e I don't play piano	Jul 05 16:15
cubexyz	Scarlatti composed for the hapsichord...	Jul 05 16:15
razielle_tzu	Scarlatti sounds horrible on the piano	Jul 05 16:17
cubexyz	well you know how it is... I didn't like Gnome 3 and I didn't really like KDE 4	Jul 05 16:18
cubexyz	so perhaps one can understand why I don't automatically switch to the newest thing	Jul 05 16:19
razielle_tzu	i prefer lxde for most of my machines	Jul 05 16:19
razielle_tzu	sometimes i3	Jul 05 16:19
cubexyz	harpsichord rather	Jul 05 16:19
razielle_tzu	the harpsichord has such a nice sound to it	Jul 05 16:20
cubexyz	sure, I'll use the new stuff but I'm keeping my old stuff	Jul 05 16:21
cubexyz	the harpsichord is making a comeback I think	Jul 05 16:22
razielle_tzu	that would be cool	Jul 05 16:22
cubexyz	Roland C-30 Digital Harpsichord :)	Jul 05 16:23
razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 05 16:23
razielle_tzu	man reddit had a field day with the wayland v mir v x11 thread	Jul 05 16:28
cubexyz	well it seems there's Xwayland so maybe it's no big deal	Jul 05 16:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Lxde why, also even that is newish, XFCE pre dates GNOME 2, GNome 2 was before lxde	Jul 05 16:41
cubexyz	well I see a lot of barking about Mir and Wayland, but I still use the old xlib function calls directly (sometimes)	Jul 05 16:42
razielle_tzu	it's not about the age, it's about the weight of it. lxde is still fairly light	Jul 05 16:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, razielle_tzu Ubuntu is going in interesting direction as is shown by these Ubuntu devices	Jul 05 16:43
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/compare-all-wms.png	Jul 05 16:45
cubexyz	still a bit on the fat size :)	Jul 05 16:45
cubexyz	mostly I use icewm	Jul 05 16:45
cubexyz	and I did try tinywm... it's awful :)	Jul 05 16:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	openbox isn't much	Jul 05 16:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	a black screen	Jul 05 16:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	and a right click menu	Jul 05 16:48
razielle_tzu	i know it's still a little bloated cubexyz but compared to gnome and kde it's fine :)	Jul 05 17:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, why don't you fancy GNOME, KDE, or guys :D ?	Jul 05 17:02
razielle_tzu	because they're all about looking pretty and adding things that distract from workflow	Jul 05 17:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	or guys :D ?	Jul 05 17:03
razielle_tzu	you know why i don't like guys	Jul 05 17:03
razielle_tzu	:P	Jul 05 17:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	no I don't	Jul 05 17:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I find Mate rather usable	Jul 05 17:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that's based on GNOME 2	Jul 05 17:04
razielle_tzu	mate is fine but i still prefer lxde or i3	Jul 05 17:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	GNOME Shell and Unity are a dab flashy	Jul 05 17:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE never been keen on that much	Jul 05 17:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but yet I got invovled with distro Mageia,w here most people into that it seems really like kde	Jul 05 17:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	they like to say when GNOME is a bit buggy in dev versions quite a few of them, dev vesions of the distro	Jul 05 17:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE is very uhmm, well it looks like WINDOWS, then geek to configure	Jul 05 17:06
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, KDE 5is probably a bit better but hmm	Jul 05 17:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	I'll agree with cubexyz thouh that Trinity is nice	Jul 05 17:07
razielle_tzu	isn't it called plasma instead of kde now?	Jul 05 17:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	the KDE 3 fork	Jul 05 17:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	sure or the interface is	Jul 05 17:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE 3 is alright, but Iprefered GNOM E 2 still at the time	Jul 05 17:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess since both Fedora and Ubuntu came with it by default so	Jul 05 17:08
razielle_tzu	i like i3 because it kind of reminds me of workbench	Jul 05 17:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	don't think I have used i3	Jul 05 17:09
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cubexyz	I use _parts_ of KDE3... kedit, klipper, konsole, kmix, krename, kalzium...	Jul 05 17:26
cubexyz	I don't bother with the KDE DE itself any more	Jul 05 17:27
razielle_tzu	yeah, some parts of it are useful but as a whole it's just.. i don't know the right word	Jul 05 17:27
cubexyz	overly elaborate...?	Jul 05 17:28
razielle_tzu	that works	Jul 05 17:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, as a whole its what	Jul 05 17:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	try and get words	Jul 05 17:29
razielle_tzu	SebthreeBQM10HD: cubexyz helped me with that as overly elaborate is a good enough description	Jul 05 17:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	what does that mean	Jul 05 17:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	in the context as well	Jul 05 17:30
razielle_tzu	as a whole KDE is distracting rather than helpful regarding workflow, it looks and feels like it's trying to do too much and gets in my way when i'm doing something, whereas some of the smaller elements on their own within another DE are really useful, such as klipper	Jul 05 17:32
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cubexyz	U of Waterloo has a nice archive of x.org going back to X10R3	Jul 05 17:55
razielle_tzu	cool, i should maybe take a look	Jul 05 17:57
cubexyz	some of it will even compile on modern linux	Jul 05 17:57
cubexyz	ls	Jul 05 17:57
cubexyz	oops	Jul 05 17:57
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razielle_tzu	cubexyz: you got a link to the archive? i'm not finding it :(	Jul 05 18:02
cubexyz	ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/x.org/	Jul 05 18:03
razielle_tzu	thanks :D	Jul 05 18:03
cubexyz	sorry, I can't compile X10R3 xclock.c, I must have compiled something newer	Jul 05 18:06
cubexyz	weird, I'm going to have to recheck this	Jul 05 18:07
razielle_tzu	i would too, not gonna try to compile anything on this machine (it's my win10 gaming one) maybe when i jump on my T60	Jul 05 18:07
cubexyz	doh, I compiled X11R6 from 1994	Jul 05 18:09
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 05 18:09
cubexyz	but xclock.c had a 1989 date in it	Jul 05 18:09
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 05 18:10
cubexyz	still wrong though... X10R3 I think is 1985/1986 era	Jul 05 18:12
razielle_tzu	they have archives for all kinds of stuff	Jul 05 18:13
cubexyz	and X10R3 xclock references Tony Della Fera from DEC	Jul 05 18:13
cubexyz	a pity, I don't think I'm going to be able to easily compile anything from that era	Jul 05 18:14
razielle_tzu	wow, i've just bookmarked the main folder of it... there are so many things to look through, not just the Xorg stuff	Jul 05 18:14
cubexyz	ha, you need to look at the _Russian_ archives then	Jul 05 18:15
razielle_tzu	if i could read them, i would :P	Jul 05 18:15
cubexyz	the Russians have the best archives for openbsd	Jul 05 18:16
razielle_tzu	tbh one of the things i would love is the Amiga stuff.. i'd love to get one of my spare laptops running Icaros and have everything i used to use on my Amigas back	Jul 05 18:16
cubexyz	http://mirror.yandex.ru/pub/OpenBSD/	Jul 05 18:17
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razielle_tzu	wow, back to 2.0	Jul 05 18:17
cubexyz	that's what I use because I still use 4.7	Jul 05 18:17
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 05 18:18
cubexyz	there's openbsd/amiga 3.2	Jul 05 18:22
razielle_tzu	that would be cool to try but what are the hardware reqs for it?	Jul 05 18:22
razielle_tzu	i don't think i've got anything i could run it on without it being a vm	Jul 05 18:22
cubexyz	ummm, A1200 with 68020+68851 or better	Jul 05 18:23
cubexyz	A3000 of course	Jul 05 18:23
razielle_tzu	yeah i'd have to try and set a vm up then, i've got no Amiga hardware better than an A600	Jul 05 18:24
cubexyz	painful :)	Jul 05 18:27
razielle_tzu	yeah i know	Jul 05 18:27
cubexyz	don't want to say impossible but very painful	Jul 05 18:27
razielle_tzu	i'd have to go searching to see if anyone else has even attempted it	Jul 05 18:28
cubexyz	there's a minix that should work, but it's pretty boring	Jul 05 18:31
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razielle_tzu	tbh i should probably check icaros out again and see what they've updated. i know i can run amiga software on it	Jul 05 18:33
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cubexyz	the old amigaos had no seperation of kernel and user spaces	Jul 05 18:43
cubexyz	don't think AROS did either	Jul 05 18:44
cubexyz	s/seperation/separation/	Jul 05 18:44
razielle_tzu	i'm not sure. i do know i liked icaros but can't remember why i stopped using it	Jul 05 18:46
cubexyz	I fear it's because there's no MMU support	Jul 05 18:50
razielle_tzu	i think it was because i was struggling to get a few things working at the time and setting it up to dual boot was a PITA	Jul 05 18:50
cubexyz	even 1960s mainframes usually had some sort of MMU	Jul 05 18:52
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cubexyz	even the Commodorer 128 had the 8722 MMU	Jul 05 18:55
cubexyz	a pity the way home computers went...	Jul 05 18:55
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cubexyz	the amiga 500/600 was almost an orphan...	Jul 05 19:00
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cubexyz	bought my amiga 500 in 1987 and by 1994 commodore went belly up	Jul 05 19:01
cubexyz	for Unix on Amiga you probably need a Amiga 2500 or 3000	Jul 05 19:02
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cubexyz	honestly even though amigas had great games, it was not as fun for hacking on	Jul 05 19:10
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razielle_tzu	i learned a lot on the amiga, and later applied it to ms-dos	Jul 05 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ok	Jul 05 19:45
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cubexyz	the thing with Unix is it's not really simple	Jul 05 20:22
cubexyz	it's multiuser, MMU memory/resource protected, complex	Jul 05 20:23
razielle_tzu	i know	Jul 05 20:23
cubexyz	so there is a rather big learning curve there	Jul 05 20:23
cubexyz	I didn't appreciate Unix when I was younger	Jul 05 20:23
razielle_tzu	i liked shelldos and made a lot of changes to my fave games and an early version of workbench	Jul 05 20:23
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cubexyz	but (and this is a big one) AmigaDOS wasn't FOSS	Jul 05 20:26
cubexyz	Unix v6 was FOSS	Jul 05 20:26
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 05 20:26
cubexyz	so the old guard running Unix v5/v6 etc on PDP-11 had the advantage in access	Jul 05 20:27
razielle_tzu	well yeah but at that point for me the computers were bought by my dad or given to us by his neighbour and we had no net access	Jul 05 20:28
razielle_tzu	so it was an amiga 500+ (later an A1200) and some old 386 running ms-dos with some atronomy programs and games	Jul 05 20:29
razielle_tzu	*astronomy	Jul 05 20:29
cubexyz	what year?	Jul 05 20:29
razielle_tzu	so i learned to modify my fave games on the amiga and play with workbench	Jul 05 20:29
razielle_tzu	i can't remember, it would have been erly 90s though	Jul 05 20:30
razielle_tzu	*early	Jul 05 20:30
razielle_tzu	i used to obsess over the amiga magazines looking for things to do or modify and carried on even after commodore tanked	Jul 05 20:32
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TweetTuxMachines	Goodwill is the source code at this open coder collective	Jul 05 20:34
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razielle_tzu	94 upset me for a couple of reasons	Jul 05 20:34
cubexyz	there was hwgunix.lib for amiga from lattice C	Jul 05 20:34
cubexyz	that would have helped one get into Unix... you would be able to port stuff to amigados	Jul 05 20:34
cubexyz	I've been looking for that for a long time	Jul 05 20:35
razielle_tzu	if i'd have been older and had more say in what happened with the computers i'd have gotten into unix but as it stood i had to deal with my dad becoming a microsoft fan boy and not getting into alternatives to ms-dos or windows until my early to mid-teens	Jul 05 20:36
razielle_tzu	when i found a linux cd at my school :D	Jul 05 20:36
cubexyz	trying to remember where hwgunix.lib was from, it might have been GNU	Jul 05 20:38
razielle_tzu	yeah it's GNU	Jul 05 20:39
razielle_tzu	it's in the util/gnu category on aminet	Jul 05 20:40
razielle_tzu	quick search for it and only get 6 results xD	Jul 05 20:41
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cubexyz	ok, yeah there was a Berkeley Yacc port to Amiga	Jul 05 20:45
cubexyz	LALR parsers...	Jul 05 20:47
razielle_tzu	i miss my amiga but it's in storage right now...	Jul 05 20:48
cubexyz	this was with SAS C v.6 or something	Jul 05 20:48
cubexyz	but it's better to learn the original Bell Labs Unix I think	Jul 05 20:48
cubexyz	byacc was around 1996 or so	Jul 05 20:49
razielle_tzu	fair. i'm trying to decide on what os to play with and learn more about. i have a few computers with linux on but that doesn't appeal to me right now, windows has nothing to offer really and bsd is the only other one i can think of that my T60 will play nicely with	Jul 05 20:50
cubexyz	BSD is closer to traditional Unix than Linux is	Jul 05 20:52
razielle_tzu	i know, i'm kinda leaning towards learning BSD but i can't decide on what flavour	Jul 05 20:53
cubexyz	openbsd is a nice modern Unix, but I really liked Bell Labs Unix	Jul 05 20:59
razielle_tzu	i think openbsd is the one flavour i've not tried properly yet	Jul 05 20:59
razielle_tzu	out of the current four anyway	Jul 05 21:00
cubexyz	I think openbsd has the best release model, and it's more secure	Jul 05 21:13
cubexyz	it's not a big desktop OS though	Jul 05 21:13
razielle_tzu	i'm not neccessarily after a desktop style OS, just one i can play with and learn about, preferably on hardware instead of in a vm. i'm starting a BSc in computing in october and want to do some of my own research and learning before i start that	Jul 05 21:15
razielle_tzu	also it would be cool to learn something besides Linux as a server os, i'm tempted to change the os on a server i have from ubuntu server to something else but haven't decided what to replace it with yet	Jul 05 21:17
cubexyz	go for the $$$ and write android apps :)	Jul 05 21:31
cubexyz	google and paypal are like best buddies now	Jul 05 21:31
razielle_tzu	i'm more interested in doing the linux and CCNA modules the course offers though	Jul 05 21:31
razielle_tzu	i can learn to write android apps in my spare time	Jul 05 21:32
razielle_tzu	somewhere i still have the windows installer for the android SDK and i can easily install it on my linux laptops too	Jul 05 21:40
razielle_tzu	i keep forgetting to reinstall parts of it for ADB	Jul 05 21:41
razielle_tzu	lol, someone is claiming you can parse HTML with regex	Jul 05 22:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750578073280638977	Jul 06 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	Android Nougat Takes on Mobile Ransomware	Jul 06 02:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iqSDX6zOWH (www.onthewire.io)	Jul 06 02:32
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750583791836618752	Jul 06 03:34
TweetTuxMachines	ARTIK Cloud Challenge is now live! Learn what it has in	Jul 06 03:34
TweetTuxMachines	store for Tizen https://t.co/PV58cDIAbP	Jul 06 03:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jul 06 03:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750588885776867328	Jul 06 03:34
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/JKEyNYlpWd	Jul 06 03:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 03:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750593701123072001	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	Java on the Mainframe - on z/OS rather than Linux - An	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	opportunity well worth researching, if you run a	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	Mainframe https://t.co/hlf6R6SqbA (www.it-director.com)	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 03:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750595187483738121	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linux: An Evolving Trend That Is High On Demand	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NQcUqeSGWu (www.hostreview.com)	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux: An evolving trend that is high on demand \| HostReview.com		Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750595856152297472	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	Solus 2.0 Operating System to Introduce the Sol Package	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	Manager, Cool Features https://t.co/tDxW1xlUpJ	Jul 06 03:55
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 06 03:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750598936994443264	Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	Review of #Slackware 14.2 https://t.co/YgHaktFZFR	Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	(nwrickert2.wordpress.com)	Jul 06 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwrickert2.wordpress.com \| Slackware 14.2 \| Thoughts on computing		Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750599311772319745	Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	"Using Slackware has been easy with my old trust KDE	Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	desktop." https://t.co/QC4NpzoB1U (ostatic.com)	Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Debian Bullseye, More Obnoxious Windows 10, Slack 14.2 Notes		Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750600254756646913	Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	First Thoughts on Linux Mint 18 “Sarah”	Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YmgDDIoTCH (www.adventuresinoss.com)	Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuresinoss.com \| First Thoughts on Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” \| Adventures in Open Source		Jul 06 04:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750600663407726596	Jul 06 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	June Another Great Month for the Raspberry Pi	Jul 06 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YmgDDIoTCH (www.adventuresinoss.com)	Jul 06 04:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 04:07
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus 2.0 Operating System to Introduce the Sol...'		Jul 06 04:07
*TweetTuxMachines @ndboulton favourited 'LzLabs launches product to move mainframe COBOL code...'		Jul 06 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750602458141974528	Jul 06 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	When Linux is the face of kindness	Jul 06 04:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/p1kEuaUrQ1 (opensource.com)	Jul 06 04:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750603024830230529	Jul 06 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	4 open source tools I used to write a Linux book	Jul 06 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3bWinLAFDS (opensource.com)	Jul 06 04:36
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to write a book with open source tools \| Opensource.com		Jul 06 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609428785737728	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	Nextcloud 9 Released https://t.co/FriMUTFEq2	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 04:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609429574217728	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	When Linux is the face of kindness	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GWVwQ73vT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| When Linux is the face of kindness \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609430274715648	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	4 open source tools I used to write a Linux book	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ukhu6Gyfww (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4 open source tools I used to write a Linux book \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 04:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609430941544450	Jul 06 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	Vista 10 (Windows 10) and Linux https://t.co/ugVvSRM4SJ	Jul 06 05:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 05:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609431621021696	Jul 06 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	Security Leftovers https://t.co/xtXhp2EKmU	Jul 06 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 05:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750619107737952256	Jul 06 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	Links 6/7/2016: KDE Plasma 5.7, DigiKam 5.0	Jul 06 05:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wtnaV34Odj (techrights.org)	Jul 06 05:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750632461839675392	Jul 06 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/669QJmHrg1	Jul 06 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 07:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 07:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750632462535970816	Jul 06 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/PbYjM3Kye7	Jul 06 07:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 07:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750648913410068480	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	Review: Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS shines	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mEn5EjqNQt (www.infoworld.com)	Jul 06 09:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Review: Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS shines \| InfoWorld		Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@faseidl http://twitter.com/faseidl/status/750663631487000576	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	FAScination Daily: #OpenSource is out!	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gFOookCFaK (opensource.faseidl.com) #oss	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	#foss #software Stories via @fth_nix @booksprint	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines	Jul 06 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.faseidl.com \| FAScination Daily: Open Source		Jul 06 09:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678721330241536	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	Review: Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS shines	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UOY0GLZCHv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review: Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS shines \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678722412371972	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released https://t.co/aMOHCfWnff	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678723452477440	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	Hands-On: Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 https://t.co/PkShyoHBIv	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678724559773696	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	Who needs a GUI? How to live in a Linux terminal.	Jul 06 09:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pmG9yAzvFZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678725725872132	Jul 06 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	Smart Hub Preview Released for Tizen TV SDK 2.3.1	Jul 06 11:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WnjNKewCAU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 11:25
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/getArastta/status/750735503989800960	Jul 06 13:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@getArastta: @schestowitz it's fully Open Source, you can find it on GitHub and access all codes. Also, download the zip from https://t.co/4kMhMU1naq		Jul 06 13:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/750662179490107392	Jul 06 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Fixing #neoliberal @el_pais' heading to #Corruption in '#Mexico' AND #Spain👈lacks moral auth https://t.co/w8NZ0oC0CG https://t.co/AIu0NH4yLr		Jul 06 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> elpais.com \| Corruption in Mexico: How the Mexican Embassy in Spain pulled out all stops to free ex-official \| In English \| EL PAÍS		Jul 06 13:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Expect Lionel #Messi not serve any time behind bars. Same for #clinton and #blair who openly supported #petraeus when he was found guilty.		Jul 06 13:06
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/750662270502440960	Jul 06 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: Illegal surveillance in EPO passively accepted by the ‘Administrative’ Council of EPO @reportrai3 @sole24ore https://t.co/6rstCIO4xr		Jul 06 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @KrapulaPhD The ‘Administrative’ Council is to Benoît Battistelli What FISA is to the NSA https://t.co/gFtRV0ikrn		Jul 06 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750758813372997632	Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux to be bundled as preferred OS with Pivotal	Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud Foundry app platform https://t.co/PAEcEq9jWc	Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.v3.co.uk) https://t.co/eHAHUV327q	Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterprisetech.com)	Jul 06 14:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk \| Ubuntu Linux to be bundled as preferred OS with Pivotal Cloud Foundry app platform \| V3		Jul 06 14:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com \| Pivotal Adds Ubuntu to Cloud Foundry		Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750763605965037568	Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	"It looks like AMD has finally got the memo when it comes	Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	to Linux machines." https://t.co/JjdSyoA7jw	Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.fudzilla.com)	Jul 06 14:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fudzilla.com \| AMD improves its Linux drivers		Jul 06 14:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750764636685885440	Jul 06 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released https://t.co/vG1NcU4P6w	Jul 06 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jul 06 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released - Tizen Experts		Jul 06 14:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750764810036514816	Jul 06 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	Hands-On: Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 https://t.co/1Prm31yWnv	Jul 06 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Jul 06 14:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands-On: Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 \| ZDNet		Jul 06 14:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750765101179871232	Jul 06 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	Who needs a GUI? How to live in a Linux terminal.	Jul 06 14:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O0LE2LPe6Y (www.networkworld.com)	Jul 06 14:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750765277764345856	Jul 06 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	Smart Hub Preview Released for Tizen TV SDK 2.3.1	Jul 06 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tVenVYBWB5 (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jul 06 15:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Smart Hub Preview Released for Tizen TV SDK 2.3.1 - Tizen Experts		Jul 06 15:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750768101105557504	Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	Android Nougat review - hands on, how to get it, best	Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	features, release date https://t.co/Ft5XmuFCNd	Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.expertreviews.co.uk)	Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.expertreviews.co.uk \| Android Nougat review - hands on, how to get it, best features, release date \| Expert Reviews		Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750768660499816448	Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	RPi-based music player has touchscreen and high-end DACs	Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Z46ypVJbub (hackerboards.com)	Jul 06 15:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750769804022312960	Jul 06 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com \| RPi-based music player has touchscreen and high-end DACs		Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	Doing for User Space What We Did for Kernel Space	Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oVGFoUKxZ8 (www.linuxjournal.com)	Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 15:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| Doing for User Space What We Did for Kernel Space \| Linux Journal		Jul 06 15:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750769999581679616	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Edu / Skolelinux Jessie https://t.co/QMtdaqd75K	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(lwn.net)	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian Edu / Skolelinux Jessie [LWN.net]		Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750770283477368836	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	uNav GPS Navigation App for Ubuntu Phones Now Offers	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Offline Maps, Convergence https://t.co/lbE2uoVE3V	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| uNav GPS Navigation App for Ubuntu Phones Now Offers Offline Maps, Convergence		Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750776593551912960	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Sven Co-op, a co-operative game originally based around	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	Half-Life now on Linux in Alpha https://t.co/eOlOt2r7Ra	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 15:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sven Co-op, a co-operative game originally based around Half-Life now on Linux in Alpha \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 06 15:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750778030872813568	Jul 06 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S6Q8FdvuNu (news.softpedia.com)	Jul 06 15:47
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| GNOME Calendar Will Support Alarms, GNOME Software to Better Handle Flatpaks		Jul 06 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750778197634125825	Jul 06 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME Calendar Will Support Alarms, GNOME Software to	Jul 06 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	Better Handle Flatpaks https://t.co/S6Q8FdvuNu	Jul 06 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines	The State Of Systemd In Debian (2016)	Jul 06 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vuGn9Z2mQ3 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 06 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750780600949309440	Jul 06 16:01
TweetTuxMachines	Qt Creator 4.1.0 Beta released https://t.co/iRL1CCFpkr	Jul 06 16:01
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TweetTuxMachines	Valve Is Working On Team Fortress 2 "Meet Your Match"	Jul 06 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines	AMD's Linux Driver Will Likely See A Power Change For The	Jul 06 16:11
TweetTuxMachines	Radeon RX 480 Too https://t.co/kcSGoNruAQ	Jul 06 16:11
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TweetTuxMachines	Why Nexus phones are now the only Android phones I	Jul 06 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	wholeheartedly recommend https://t.co/DnsPvp021I	Jul 06 16:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworld.com)	Jul 06 16:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750789294726455297	Jul 06 16:37
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat expands cloud management solution	Jul 06 16:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7zokkVA7aS (www.gdnonline.com)	Jul 06 16:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750790263019335680	Jul 06 16:37
TweetTuxMachines	Open source SSH clients https://t.co/1OjtHYo1uO	Jul 06 16:37
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cubexyz	not loving the massive popup ads on computerworld	Jul 06 16:39
cubexyz	meh, just can't get enthusiastic about smartphones	Jul 06 16:41
cubexyz	not super keen on laptops either...	Jul 06 16:43
cubexyz	I do like the idea of the pitop though, you can replace parts easily	Jul 06 16:45
razielle_tzu	depends on the laptop for me... and i'd love to kack together my own pitop	Jul 06 16:46
razielle_tzu	*hack	Jul 06 16:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/750795191108431872	Jul 06 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: I wonder why Saudi royalty would like to control a Western communications company… https://t.co/eeOPJVmQYS		Jul 06 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Former FB CTO has joined #twitter which I guess explains why Twitter became more like #Facebook (horrible). Then: https://t.co/RKUQSfv1IR		Jul 06 16:58
schestowitz	Maybe blackmail by investment. See 28 pages...	Jul 06 16:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750790632063500288	Jul 06 17:01
TweetTuxMachines	Java Deserialization attacks on JBoss Middleware	Jul 06 17:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RO6x5LqdyW (access.redhat.com)	Jul 06 17:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750791193185910785	Jul 06 17:01
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 improves security, but at a cost	Jul 06 17:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q90YpZU7Oo (www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 06 17:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750796765578735617	Jul 06 17:01
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/zefsEMq6rk	Jul 06 17:01
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TweetTuxMachines	AMD Linux News https://t.co/5YhNCFmaur	Jul 06 17:01
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/iKO0nJwQBe	Jul 06 17:01
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TweetTuxMachines	Security Leftovers https://t.co/wehjWW3qUJ	Jul 06 17:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750796768879665152	Jul 06 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	Openwashing https://t.co/ZXiuVtznb5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 17:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750802908862644224	Jul 06 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	Taming the Chaos of Modern Caches	Jul 06 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mm9XgXHbGu (www.linux.com)	Jul 06 17:26
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lets9etloud1/status/750809439909736448 https://twitter.com/CaptainKurtis/status/750809507542994944	Jul 06 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lets9etloud1: @schestowitz You mean corrupt big timers n officials murdering small time pushers so they can't squeak to Duterte. #chess #strategy		Jul 06 17:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CaptainKurtis: @schestowitz You're forgetting @GovGaryJohnson.		Jul 06 17:54
schestowitz	The media 'forgets' him all the time	Jul 06 17:54
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/750812790110158848	Jul 06 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @tonyblairoffice @campbellclaret @schestowitz @EtonOldBoys Tony Blair The British Pol Pot #Chilcot #Blair		Jul 06 18:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/750813345712730112	Jul 06 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Surprise, surprise... https://t.co/tXcNrSUjNA		Jul 06 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tony Bliar Told George W. #Bush , “If We Win Quickly, Everyone Will Be Our Friend.” https://t.co/NzRScWfXVw what a sociopath.		Jul 06 18:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750806299810594816	Jul 06 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	New toolset makes it possible to build and ship Docker	Jul 06 18:27
TweetTuxMachines	containers within Ansible https://t.co/rn4AIG7r2J	Jul 06 18:27
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7581835	Jul 06 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Re "If Wales can survive in the Euros do you doubt that the UK can survive outside the European Union?" https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/750598286344683520 #WALPOR		Jul 06 18:34
schestowitz	"its not about “survive” this thing was orchestrated by extremely wealthy so that they can build a trench between their wealth and the collapsing #EU."	Jul 06 18:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: @filemot Chris Coleman for PM? Gareth Bale as Foreign Sec? #WALPOR		Jul 06 18:34
schestowitz	"the average #British shmo is going to get bupkis out of this. #Brexit"	Jul 06 18:34
schestowitz	Depends on how one defines "average"	Jul 06 18:34
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/saveinventors/status/750821552871116800	Jul 06 18:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@saveinventors: @schestowitz call those #efficientinfringers		Jul 06 18:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750818562558734336	Jul 06 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	SUSE as Microsoft Stooge https://t.co/XjLIWMqlh9	Jul 06 19:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750818563296866304	Jul 06 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/jv6fxYoJCL	Jul 06 19:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750824527685423105	Jul 06 19:06
TweetTuxMachines	Mint 18 - Forgetting Sarah Linux https://t.co/PVkHR4jRBL	Jul 06 19:06
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/negativland2006/status/750830345629667333	Jul 06 19:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@negativland2006: @schestowitz lol		Jul 06 19:18
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/d4v3nu11/status/750835489398292480	Jul 06 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@d4v3nu11: "I don't trust Google with my data, but I still use therefore trust Medium" #BullshitOfTheDay #SomeoneGiveThemAMedal https://t.co/N7ib9TpRIT		Jul 06 19:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Two Reasons I Don’t Trust #Google With My Data https://t.co/yvvk4dn94h #facebook even worse because it sells it		Jul 06 19:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/D_J_M_D/status/750836398442311681	Jul 06 19:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D_J_M_D: @schestowitz -- Do you mean @rupertmurdoch ?		Jul 06 19:42
schestowitz	No, Ian Murdock	Jul 06 19:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/D_J_M_D/status/750837812002430976	Jul 06 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D_J_M_D: @schestowitz @rupertmurdoch -- Can't say I've heard of him.		Jul 06 19:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750828283772755968	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Nexus 6 Is Now an Unofficial Ubuntu Phone, Wi-Fi &	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Bluetooth Support Coming Soon https://t.co/5czRFYSaXN	Jul 06 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750828795549118464	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Mysterious death of software pioneer Ian Murdock ruled	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	suicide https://t.co/xscbbykvn1 (money.cnn.com)	Jul 06 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750834325927714817	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Running Linux on the Acer Switch Alpha 12	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/n9x8JQdkRX (liliputing.com)	Jul 06 19:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running Linux on the Acer Switch Alpha 12 - Liliputing		Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750840838213607424	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Mint 18 - Forgetting Sarah Linux https://t.co/yKOkDHgOP9	Jul 06 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750840839149019136	Jul 06 19:57
TweetTuxMachines	Nexus 6 Is Now an Unofficial Ubuntu Phone, Wi-Fi &	Jul 06 19:57
TweetTuxMachines	Bluetooth Support Coming Soon https://t.co/2ODbdLC6ca	Jul 06 19:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750840839979409408	Jul 06 19:57
TweetTuxMachines	Mysterious death of software pioneer Ian Murdock ruled	Jul 06 19:57
TweetTuxMachines	suicide https://t.co/Be9WAmXdpO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 19:57
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mysterious death of software pioneer Ian Murdock ruled suicide \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 19:57
cubexyz	hmmm	Jul 06 19:58
cubexyz	only 42, younger than me	Jul 06 20:00
razielle_tzu	damn	Jul 06 20:02
schestowitz	the CNN report is kind of an hogwash	Jul 06 20:07
schestowitz	doesn't say enough about the suspicious circumstances within the police	Jul 06 20:08
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 06 20:08
schestowitz	and repeats police claims, like blaming Murdock for injuring himself	Jul 06 20:08
schestowitz	as if he was some drunk depressing person	Jul 06 20:08
schestowitz	other versions of the story say he had a drink and got the wrong door, or got locked out of his own home	Jul 06 20:09
schestowitz	but anyhoo	Jul 06 20:09
schestowitz	he's dead, SF police covered its own arse again	Jul 06 20:09
schestowitz	http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/750838251297050624	Jul 06 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Recent stories about PD that left Ian #murdock dead https://t.co/Al0eUoJFs8 https://t.co/WzwHv4OPzQ https://t.co/mbm29NdZwz #police		Jul 06 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| Police brutality and homelessness collide in aftermath of San Francisco killing \| US news \| The Guardian		Jul 06 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sfexaminer.com \| Telling the truth about police brutality in San Francisco - The San Francisco Examiner		Jul 06 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| Hunger Strike in San Francisco Puts a Spotlight on Police Brutality \| Mother Jones		Jul 06 20:09
schestowitz	same PD	Jul 06 20:09
schestowitz	gn	Jul 06 20:09
cubexyz	I heard that secure boot had to be disable to install Slackware 14.2 on an UEFI machine	Jul 06 20:11
cubexyz	s/disable/disabled/	Jul 06 20:11
cubexyz	what's the point of secure boot again? :)	Jul 06 20:12
cubexyz	seems like it makes everything a pain in the butt to install except doze	Jul 06 20:14
cubexyz	you would think I'd be better with the bsd stuff by now, oh well	Jul 06 20:24
cubexyz	ok, I've knocked some of my bsd notes into shape... but only the modern bsd notes	Jul 06 20:26
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/bsd-notes.txt	Jul 06 20:26
razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 06 20:29
cubexyz	I really came from the AT&T SysV world	Jul 06 20:44
cubexyz	SCO Xenix, IRIX... that sort of thing	Jul 06 20:45
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 06 20:45
cubexyz	but nowadays it's Linux, BSD and I guess AIX	Jul 06 20:46
cubexyz	so that's a bit of a schism really	Jul 06 20:46
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 06 20:46
cubexyz	I'm not hard-line BSD, far from it	Jul 06 20:51
cubexyz	so I try to exist in the sysv world, and the BSD world	Jul 06 20:52
cubexyz	probably that's why I like slack	Jul 06 20:52
razielle_tzu	i decided, just before i fell asleep lat night, that the OS i'm gonna play with IS one of the BSDs... i just didn't make a choice on which one :P	Jul 06 20:52
cubexyz	I also like the GPL :)	Jul 06 20:52
cubexyz	well, it's good to be exposed to a bunch of different operating systems	Jul 06 20:55
razielle_tzu	i run various linux distros and windows already, i want to learn more about BSD but don't know which one to start with... all i know is i'm not touching PC-BSD again	Jul 06 20:56
cubexyz	I think my ISP actually uses openbsd	Jul 06 20:56
cubexyz	the folks in #openbsd aren't too bad to deal with	Jul 06 20:57
cubexyz	I still run Xenix in qemu sometimes	Jul 06 20:58
razielle_tzu	fair, i think i was looking at openBSD but i can't remember and my tab history is huge so checking is a pain	Jul 06 20:58
cubexyz	I think openbsd still has some a.out support, so vax, m68k, m88k	Jul 06 21:00
cubexyz	so openbsd on amiga maybe :)	Jul 06 21:00
razielle_tzu	that would be cool if i had one >.<	Jul 06 21:00
cubexyz	ok, no 68851 is a problem	Jul 06 21:00
razielle_tzu	i'm thinking about installing it on my ibm T60 though	Jul 06 21:01
cubexyz	you could even put coreboot firmware on that T60	Jul 06 21:01
razielle_tzu	want to get to grips with a basic setup first and then i'll learn to do more with it	Jul 06 21:02
cubexyz	yeah openbsd on T60 should be OK	Jul 06 21:07
razielle_tzu	i know the fingerprint reader is unlikely to work due to the model but i'm hoping everything else will be fine	Jul 06 21:07
razielle_tzu	i've had trouble getting it working with anything but windows	Jul 06 21:09
cubexyz	the openbsd folks don't like binary blobs	Jul 06 21:14
razielle_tzu	i know	Jul 06 21:15
razielle_tzu	tbh so long as it's useable to learn from i don't mind a couple of things not working	Jul 06 21:15
cubexyz	I'll look into that if I ever get a T60	Jul 06 21:19
razielle_tzu	i have one ready to try this with, i just need to setup the install media and give it a shot... for some reason i'm scared to though even though i've set freebsd up on it before and right now it has a dead mint install on it	Jul 06 21:20
cubexyz	we used to get programming info for peripherals	Jul 06 21:37
cubexyz	around 1999 or 2000 or so Microsoft tried really hard to end that	Jul 06 21:37
razielle_tzu	i vaguely remember that	Jul 06 21:38
cubexyz	I wrote a few notes on it	Jul 06 21:41
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/decommoditization.txt	Jul 06 21:43
razielle_tzu	interesting	Jul 06 21:44
cubexyz	someone leaked that to info to Eric Raymond	Jul 06 21:44
razielle_tzu	a lot of stuff related to microsoft is leaked, has been the case for years too	Jul 06 21:47
cubexyz	oh they knew what was coming	Jul 06 22:02
razielle_tzu	i have no doubt of that	Jul 06 22:03
XFaCE	[20:52:01]<cubexyz> so I try to exist in the sysv world, and the BSD world	Jul 06 22:49
XFaCE	cubexyz: don't forget OpenRC and runit	Jul 06 22:49
XFaCE	well, hopefully OpenRC won't be in the hands it is currently in for much longer	Jul 06 22:49
cubexyz	sure, use whatever init you want	Jul 06 22:50
cubexyz	I hear there's Gentoo/FreeBSD	Jul 06 22:51
XFaCE	cubexyz: my point being is that non-systemd doesn't automatically mean sysv :P	Jul 06 22:52
XFaCE	also, I need the hardware support of linux	Jul 06 22:52
cubexyz	it's not just the init system that's different, sysv had termio and BSD has termios, it's just one of those things	Jul 06 22:57
XFaCE	cubexyz: openrc isn't just init	Jul 06 23:01
XFaCE	:P	Jul 06 23:01
XFaCE	usually, you actually used openrc with sysv	Jul 06 23:01
XFaCE	but now you can use runit	Jul 06 23:01
cubexyz	I have to port a few programs from sysv to bsd	Jul 06 23:06
XFaCE	cool	Jul 06 23:08
XFaCE	cubexyz: how's the hardware support nowaadays?	Jul 06 23:08
cubexyz	it's always a mixed bag	Jul 06 23:11
cubexyz	it's actively maintained... I am assuming you mean openbsd	Jul 06 23:12
cubexyz	anything that's well documented should work	Jul 06 23:13
cubexyz	Linux is the more interesting desktop...	Jul 06 23:20
cubexyz	openbsd is more for Unix traditionalists	Jul 06 23:21
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/jrtd9ibWMr	Jul 07 01:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750840842311462913	Jul 07 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	Running Linux on the Acer Switch Alpha 12	Jul 07 01:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/THDgkZAuWb (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 01:28
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/750867686515695616	Jul 07 02:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz If you have a controlling interest you don't need blackmail. You can censor Twitter. That would make them salivate.		Jul 07 02:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/750935371375120384	Jul 07 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/4pONt2G2G8	Jul 07 02:55
TweetTuxMachines	@GUSLSanFelix (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 02:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750946394639216641	Jul 07 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/fFZKErvutb	Jul 07 03:10
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 03:10
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/750950154820288512	Jul 07 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Who needs a GUI? How to live in a Linux terminal.	Jul 07 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto https://t.co/O0LE2LPe6Y (www.networkworld.com)	Jul 07 03:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750953584402001920	Jul 07 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	Not Your Mother’s Linux https://t.co/mYkCp7wUpp	Jul 07 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	(fossforce.com)	Jul 07 03:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/750953822697222144	Jul 07 03:41
TweetTuxMachines	30 days in a terminal: Day 0 https://t.co/hRBE2JtIXs	Jul 07 03:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.networkworld.com) via @networkworld @BryanLunduke	Jul 07 03:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #LinuxSucks https://t.co/mdzCGSaKVv	Jul 07 03:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/750955782515064832	Jul 07 03:42
TweetTuxMachines	Presentation-ing within a Linux Terminal	Jul 07 03:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @NetworkWorld @BryanLunduke "Linux Sucks"™	Jul 07 03:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UNiMpEGdXj	Jul 07 03:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750957996927311874	Jul 07 04:03
TweetTuxMachines	Upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Mint 18 In Place	Jul 07 04:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/k3BJphiOm3 (www.adventuresinoss.com)	Jul 07 04:03
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 04:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750958735212867584	Jul 07 04:03
TweetTuxMachines	Announcing new snap desktop launchers	Jul 07 04:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MUZoYSk2IG (developer.ubuntu.com)	Jul 07 04:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970103999533056	Jul 07 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	SUSE and Microsoft, Canonical and Pivotal	Jul 07 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QglJWpBbny (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 04:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 04:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970104821583872	Jul 07 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	Not Your Mother’s Linux https://t.co/MUKa9LYxoL	Jul 07 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 04:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970105769656320	Jul 07 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	Murdock Death Ruled Suicide, Terrible Linux Regressions	Jul 07 04:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S4sCOxLOhH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 04:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 04:30
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jcalabra/status/750971257940684802	Jul 07 04:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jcalabra: @schestowitz @We3forDemocracy @JFXM owned by whom again? You guessed it...		Jul 07 04:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970106633547776	Jul 07 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	Grenoble continues to move schools to open source	Jul 07 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eHRjDKfU7G (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 05:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970107426320384	Jul 07 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	LibreOffice News https://t.co/2Gtwts1SHy	Jul 07 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 05:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750972150547410944	Jul 07 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	More Polaris & Tonga Fixes For Linux 4.7	Jul 07 05:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AirTH5wpSy (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 07 05:21
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7583696	Jul 07 05:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who actually believe "Microsoft loves Linux" would also believe that Nigel Farage loves the European Union. A measure of gullibility.		Jul 07 05:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750983009373917184	Jul 07 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	Links 7/7/2016: New Information About Ian Murdock, New	Jul 07 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	Snap Desktop Launchers https://t.co/yyRAzdnsGp	Jul 07 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jul 07 06:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992914000392192	Jul 07 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework	Jul 07 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	Gets First Point Release https://t.co/LA3wUD7Oxn	Jul 07 06:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 06:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 06:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992914931523584	Jul 07 06:01
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Devices/Mobile https://t.co/67dV3lbBQN	Jul 07 06:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 06:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992915690770432	Jul 07 06:01
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/TfBbRKOFUP	Jul 07 06:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 06:01
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schestowitz	https://mobile.twitter.com/elizamurfitt1/status/751002235258204160	Jul 07 06:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/elizamurfitt1/status/751002235258204160	Jul 07 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@elizamurfitt1: @schestowitz @cristinaprkr No surprise there, then.		Jul 07 08:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992916558909440	Jul 07 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	The Sharp 507SH is the first Android One phone for the	Jul 07 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	Land of the Rising Sun https://t.co/1O4u4m0dEo	Jul 07 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 08:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992917691412482	Jul 07 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/k9tlDzGDBY	Jul 07 08:12
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TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights https://t.co/VV6PyUw2yB	Jul 07 08:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751029201298481152	Jul 07 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	Dangerous GNU wget Vulnerability Still Not Patched in All	Jul 07 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Distros https://t.co/hHh9hCLZV9	Jul 07 08:26
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 08:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751029510368272384	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	Gets First Point Release https://t.co/Ks6xR1CNKj	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 08:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751029711925551104	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	The Sharp 507SH is the first Android One phone for the	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	Land of the Rising Sun https://t.co/N86rMmenqC	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 08:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Sharp Announces the 507SH Android One Phone \| Digital Trends		Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751030017757413376	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nwD8Gw7tCy (joinup.ec.europa.eu)	Jul 07 08:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 08:43
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schestowitz	urxvt	Jul 07 08:47
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4rn1yv/is_samsung_a_supporter_of_foss_or_not/	Jul 07 08:47
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schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ra44k/centos_steam_steam_controller_gamepad_and_keyboard/	Jul 07 08:48
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schestowitz	https://mobile.twitter.com/zoobab/status/751035262944305152	Jul 07 08:49
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/751035262944305152	Jul 07 08:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz xterm without all the bloat. I was still using it, until I had to change for bigger fonts.		Jul 07 08:49
schestowitz	scrolling was my main issue with it	Jul 07 08:49
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First...'		Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751038712730030081	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	"let's finish our KDE summer fundraiser in a generous	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	way." https://t.co/IUOnsWWksN (linuxgrandma.blogspot.com)	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039288758771712	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SeYWIcM8U2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039289689985026	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	Push to promote open source software in healthcare	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SiZrNIzwHK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039290616868864	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights https://t.co/NHhLcMQPUe	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039291828998144	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	Storpool upgrades software-defined storage but remains	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-only https://t.co/mlnvycHDTK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039926095970304	Jul 07 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	X11 Applications and Unity 8 https://t.co/CknHfASOaF	Jul 07 09:08
TweetTuxMachines	(bregmatter.wordpress.com)	Jul 07 09:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:08
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schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4r5k1s/why_is_linux_so_ressource_intensive_these_days/	Jul 07 09:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Why is linux so ressource intensive these days? : linux		Jul 07 09:19
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/NHhLcMQPUe'		Jul 07 09:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751041294869430272	Jul 07 09:23
TweetTuxMachines	Dekko Is Shaping Up Nicely for Desktop Convergence	Jul 07 09:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LI7nLlCUVx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Jul 07 09:23
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Dekko Is Shaping Up Nicely for Desktop Convergence - OMG! Ubuntu!		Jul 07 09:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751043957979750401	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	"Texas LinuxFest in Austin, Texas this weekend. Friday,	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	July 8" https://t.co/VsNIit6mTT (shallowsky.com)	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shallowsky.com \| GIMP at Texas LinuxFest (Shallow Thoughts)		Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044173952872450	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	4 Best Mail Transfer Agents (MTA’s) for Linux	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JexIQQcfVT (www.tecmint.com)	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com \| 4 Best Mail Transfer Agents (MTA's) for Linux		Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044503142862848	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of Life on July	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	28, 2016 https://t.co/Ltad9DeLYE (linux.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 09:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of Life on July 28, 2016		Jul 07 09:26
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of...'		Jul 07 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044740049670144	Jul 07 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	Samba Patched Against Important SMB2/3 Client Security	Jul 07 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	Issue, Update Now https://t.co/vaAEj9Igci	Jul 07 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 09:35
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Samba Patched Against Important SMB2/3 Client Security Issue, Update Now		Jul 07 09:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751046918814441472	Jul 07 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s	Jul 07 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	Encrypt Support, and New Look https://t.co/lGQgk6xiQs	Jul 07 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 09:36
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s Encrypt Support, and New Look		Jul 07 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751047731448279040	Jul 07 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-4.4.15-stable Review Missing In Action	Jul 07 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pj2KfSmWlP (mrpogson.com)	Jul 07 09:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Linux-4.4.15-stable Review Missing In Action \| Robert Pogson		Jul 07 09:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751048002303909888	Jul 07 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat Is Working To Improve Linux Switchable Graphics	Jul 07 09:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/v2tZoAPJZV (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 07 09:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Is Working To Improve Linux Switchable Graphics - Phoronix		Jul 07 09:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751052758124494849	Jul 07 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	Vanguard Princess, a 2D fighting game that features an	Jul 07 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	all-female cast is coming to Linux	Jul 07 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/W8Kbetwk8e (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 07 10:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vanguard Princess, a 2D fighting game that features an all-female cast is coming to Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 07 10:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053159045459968	Jul 07 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	Improving Linux Switchable Graphics support	Jul 07 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uNInfKfxri (hansdegoede.livejournal.com)	Jul 07 10:03
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hansdegoede.livejournal.com \| Improving Linux Switchable Graphics support - Hans' hacking log		Jul 07 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053381171568640	Jul 07 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window Manager	Jul 07 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8pywC8igbf (www.zdnet.com)	Jul 07 10:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window Manager \| ZDNet		Jul 07 10:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053856113561600	Jul 07 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Infrastructure on DigitalOcean	Jul 07 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6oIjEMSbze (error)	Jul 07 10:27
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751054826432237568	Jul 07 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux	Jul 07 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ezrMXURJ58 (www.linux.com)	Jul 07 10:27
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux \| Linux.com \| The source for Linux information		Jul 07 10:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/751060102636068864	Jul 07 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/jrtd9ibWMr	Jul 07 10:46
TweetTuxMachines	@GUSLSanFelix (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064725346213888	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/T98ryAUm0B	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS		Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064943429050368	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	Encrypt Support, and New Look https://t.co/Gv1lYWPdqt	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s Encrypt Support, and New Look \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064944347521026	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/P3F7kH1cGF	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: KDE \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064945156960257	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Space https://t.co/VRS9uza463	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel Space \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064945857470465	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xb3HVkcdbv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064946897674240	Jul 07 10:52
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack	Jul 07 10:52
TweetTuxMachines	from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/7kwVO9svsK	Jul 07 10:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:52
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s Encrypt...'		Jul 07 10:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel &...'		Jul 07 10:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s Encrypt...'		Jul 07 10:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel &...'		Jul 07 10:52
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Samba Patched Against Important SMB2/3 Client Security Issue,...'		Jul 07 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751066905453203456	Jul 07 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	Is this the first Android phone Nokia is making?	Jul 07 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RfFDl7hKhp (bgr.com)	Jul 07 10:59
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nokia P1 Android smartphone leak \| BGR		Jul 07 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751067573454835712	Jul 07 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	Google is reportedly working on its own Android Wear	Jul 07 10:59
TweetTuxMachines	smartwatches https://t.co/fQ98W0NwVW (www.theverge.com)	Jul 07 10:59
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751068061487210497	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	JBoss EAP 7 Brings Red Hat Commercial Support for Java EE	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	7	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9UhJFMHPTW (dzone.com)	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751068626812301312	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Perl Sprint 2016 https://t.co/A8JALcGAdy	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	(bits.debian.org)	Jul 07 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751069438124892160	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora Job Opening: Fedora Community Outreach and Impact	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	Lead https://t.co/yGgix52dCz (fedoramagazine.org)	Jul 07 12:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ro2iQW9Lym (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)	Jul 07 12:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751088598309597188	Jul 07 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better	Jul 07 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	Switchable Graphics Support https://t.co/KxjbYHEZe3	Jul 07 12:42
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 12:42
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 12:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751089111470080000	Jul 07 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	The Pocket C.H.I.P. Is the Handheld Linux Machine I've	Jul 07 12:43
TweetTuxMachines	Been Looking For https://t.co/jgNs2KjgBq (lifehacker.com)	Jul 07 12:43
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better Switchable...'		Jul 07 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112544643747840	Jul 07 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/mr167TMqpT	Jul 07 13:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 13:56
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112545419694080	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/DuvqbYDCs9	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112546153750528	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/GAXX99RPDF	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112546967384064	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	Switchable Graphics Support https://t.co/ISRMTTwhJ0	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112547852398592	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	The Pocket C.H.I.P. Is the Handheld Linux Machine I've	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	Been Looking For https://t.co/jWnOQna8Tw	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:04
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751158077416615936	Jul 07 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	Greg Kroah-Hartman Gives an Inside Look at the Largest,	Jul 07 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	Fastest Software Project of All https://t.co/bNBYanDUkX	Jul 07 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 18:24
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751158078167396352	Jul 07 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	Tsuru open source PaaS puts developers first	Jul 07 18:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQA9GPbQKL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 18:24
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 18:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751180005086941185	Jul 07 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	Rugged, network oriented module dishes up 12-core QorIQ	Jul 07 21:18
TweetTuxMachines	SoC https://t.co/q6DunLJikZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 21:18
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 21:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751201441407127552	Jul 07 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	Mycroft Uses Ubuntu and Snaps to Deliver a Free	Jul 07 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	Intelligent Personal Assistant https://t.co/urwWPAot8M	Jul 07 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 21:19
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 21:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751201442191454209	Jul 07 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	Customizable carrier for OMAP4430 COM has RPi style CSI-2	Jul 07 21:19
TweetTuxMachines	port https://t.co/iGyIazCO6G (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 21:19
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 21:19
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cubexyz	wget is getting chunky	Jul 07 21:25
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cubexyz	compiling wget is rather a pain	Jul 07 23:01
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/reading-eula.jpg	Jul 08 00:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751296841409499136	Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	Greg Kroah-Hartman Gives an Inside Look at the Largest,	Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	Fastest Software Project of All https://t.co/iuRhJgkLXn	Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Jul 08 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Greg Kroah-Hartman Gives an Inside Look at the Largest, Fastest Software Project of All \| Linux.com \| The source for Linux information		Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751297184453238786	Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	Rugged, network oriented module dishes up 12-core QorIQ	Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	SoC https://t.co/SXQgjeV28Z (hackerboards.com)	Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com \| Rugged, network oriented module dishes up 12-core QorIQ SoC		Jul 08 02:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751297537932419072	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	Mycroft Uses Ubuntu and Snaps to Deliver a Free	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	Intelligent Personal Assistant https://t.co/p3EkBs533F	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mycroft Uses Ubuntu and Snaps to Deliver a Free Intelligent Personal Assistant		Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751297690986840065	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	Customizable carrier for OMAP4430 COM has RPi style CSI-2	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	port https://t.co/v9rgekZV7u (hackerboards.com)	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com \| Customizable carrier for OMAP4430 COM has RPi style CSI-2 port		Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751298708126466048	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	LXLE 16.04-beta is out https://t.co/PQ3idnJGVD (lxle.net)	Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lxle.net \| Revive that old PC! < The LXLE Desktop		Jul 08 02:16
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751298885788860416	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	Android O Name Predictions — Best Sweet Nicknames For	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	Next Android Version https://t.co/mBnFi3G9I8	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jul 08 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Android O Name Predictions — Best Sweet Nicknames For Next Android Version		Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751300195602796544	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	Salt and Sanctuary, the stylish 2D action RPG is	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	officially out for Linux & SteamOS, Ethan's 38th port	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/M1AOZp98E3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Salt and Sanctuary, the stylish 2D action RPG is officially out for Linux & SteamOS, Ethan's 38th port \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751300622951919616	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	"LiveCode, a highly productive coding environment for	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	Linux... 750,000 Kickstarter" https://t.co/MehFgymKsx	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxjournal.com)	Jul 08 02:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| LiveCode Ltd.'s LiveCode \| Linux Journal		Jul 08 02:26
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited '"LiveCode, a highly productive coding environment for Linux......'		Jul 08 02:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751301558848065536	Jul 08 02:30
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora Media Writer Looks To Take On A Primary Role In	Jul 08 02:30
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 25 https://t.co/2DmVaERN8x (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 08 02:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fedora Media Writer Looks To Take On A Primary Role In Fedora 25 - Phoronix		Jul 08 02:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751302326636408832	Jul 08 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	VirtualBox 5.1 Is Just Around the Corner	Jul 08 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bdXvxrk0Am (news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OwL1O0G1nu (blogs.oracle.com)	Jul 08 02:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NCJr5nCQxJ (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 08 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| VirtualBox 5.1 Is Just Around the Corner, First Release Candidate Up for Grabs		Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.oracle.com \| Oracle VM VirtualBox 5.1 Release Candidate 1 now available. (Oracle's Virtualization Blog)		Jul 08 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VirtualBox 5.1 RC1 Released - Phoronix		Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751303172828848128	Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	GPS for Linux https://t.co/iaIOaRF43B	Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	(donaldmcintosh.net)	Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-donaldmcintosh.net \| GPS for Linux		Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751303767107264512	Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	DIY Mobile Backup Device for Photographers	Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SfVNYOQFff (medium.com)	Jul 08 02:40
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DIY Mobile Backup Device for Photographers — Medium		Jul 08 02:40
*TweetTuxMachines @MainlandMachine followed @tuxmachines		Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751309935695331329	Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines	LinuxCon Conference Delves Deep into Open Source,	Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines	Containers and Virtualization https://t.co/ffn6KS5ATL	Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines	(appdevelopermagazine.com)	Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appdevelopermagazine.com \| LinuxCon Conference Delves Deep into Open Source, Containers and Virtualization/ \| App Developer Magazine		Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751310320233226240	Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines	How to get a Linux terminal on Android	Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eDTQAtq0ou (www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 08 03:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 03:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to get a Linux terminal on Android - TechRepublic		Jul 08 03:39
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mycroft Uses Ubuntu and Snaps to Deliver a...'		Jul 08 03:39
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mycroft Uses Ubuntu and Snaps to Deliver a...'		Jul 08 03:39
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'VirtualBox 5.1 Is Just Around the Corner https://t.co/bdXvxrk0Am...'		Jul 08 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| VirtualBox 5.1 Is Just Around the Corner, First Release Candidate Up for Grabs		Jul 08 03:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751323390254854145	Jul 08 03:53
TweetTuxMachines	Mozilla News (Rust, Yahoo) https://t.co/yTNVnSbnM2	Jul 08 03:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 03:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 03:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Mozilla News (Rust, Yahoo) \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 03:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751323391097835520	Jul 08 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	VirtualBox 5.1 RC1 https://t.co/1jTJ7iuTNr	Jul 08 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 03:54
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 03:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| VirtualBox 5.1 RC1 \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 03:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751323391945117696	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/dq8v8hMH2b	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751324843644219392	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat reveals vision for more architecture-driven BPM	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	models https://t.co/zFZ0eSOHuX (searchsoa.techtarget.com)	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-searchsoa.techtarget.com \| Red Hat reveals vision for more architecture-driven BPM models		Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751325161689911296	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	Exclusive: Android Co-Founder To Lead Google’s New	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	Education Project	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nxH8B6n2TN (fortune.com)	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 04:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exclusive: Android Co-Founder To Lead Google's New Education Project - Fortune		Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751326182260543488	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	Android Wear 2.0 release date and features: Google	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	planning to launch two Android Wear smartwatches?	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/G19omc928n (www.itpro.co.uk)	Jul 08 04:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 04:07
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r_schestowitz	cubexyz: also buggy	Jul 08 04:48
r_schestowitz	some wget hole found, patched	Jul 08 04:48
r_schestowitz	try curl	Jul 08 04:48
r_schestowitz	not sure if it's any better	Jul 08 04:48
r_schestowitz	never checked size of it	Jul 08 04:48
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/751337243722276864	Jul 08 04:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @thenation Truth be told when he took command the wars were unwinnable already.		Jul 08 04:49
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7578704	Jul 08 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Not a Diaspora post?		Jul 08 04:50
r_schestowitz	"Hahaha mine is dying. Thinking about a new machine :)"	Jul 08 04:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751328673467424768	Jul 08 06:41
TweetTuxMachines	How to handle security risks in Red Hat virtualization	Jul 08 06:41
TweetTuxMachines	environments https://t.co/6SkXMMiJ4S	Jul 08 06:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 08 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to handle security risks in Red Hat virtualization environments - TechRepublic		Jul 08 06:41
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 06:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751350228729618432	Jul 08 06:41
TweetTuxMachines	Links 8/7/2016: Kubernetes 1.3, New Linux Foundation	Jul 08 06:41
TweetTuxMachines	Events https://t.co/TRC4coVNDg (techrights.org)	Jul 08 06:41
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 06:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 8/7/2016: Kubernetes 1.3, New Linux Foundation Events \| Techrights		Jul 08 06:41
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 8/7/2016: Kubernetes 1.3, New Linux Foundation Events...'		Jul 08 06:45
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 8/7/2016: Kubernetes 1.3, New Linux Foundation Events...'		Jul 08 06:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367391251095553	Jul 08 06:48
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/P4xDqEew1P	Jul 08 06:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 06:48
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 06:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 06:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367392098328577	Jul 08 06:48
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/ZoAaqvbxQ2	Jul 08 06:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 06:48
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 06:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 06:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367393096720384	Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/XJ9VMjXfx2	Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367394052845568	Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora PSA, Ubuntu EOL, Positive Mint Review	Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/qpmQe2wcIo (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora PSA, Ubuntu EOL, Positive Mint Review \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367394866581504	Jul 08 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	LXLE 16.04 "Eclectica" Distro Will Be Based on Ubuntu	Jul 08 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	16.04 LTS, Beta Out Now https://t.co/USadTjgfnp	Jul 08 08:35
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 08:35
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 08:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751451735605014528	Jul 08 12:25
TweetTuxMachines	The best budget Android phones you can buy [July 2016]	Jul 08 12:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/c43YE1IdcF (9to5google.com)	Jul 08 12:25
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 12:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The best budget Android phones you can buy [July 2016] \| 9to5Google		Jul 08 12:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751451966077865988	Jul 08 12:26
TweetTuxMachines	Nexus 6P and Galaxy S5 Mini https://t.co/ZcdZTnNPgj	Jul 08 12:26
TweetTuxMachines	(etbe.coker.com.au)	Jul 08 12:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au \| Nexus 6P and Galaxy S5 Mini « etbe - Russell Coker		Jul 08 12:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751452556782600192	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Review: They Did it Again!	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VJFVP7HzWL (www.hecticgeek.com)	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hecticgeek.com \| Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Review: They Did it Again!		Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751452991270641664	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	How graphical installers introduced the user	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CgpwNALqJ7 (www.linux-magazine.com)	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com \| How graphical installers introduced the user » Linux Magazine		Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453146355040256	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	The Linux Setup - Cassidy James Blaede, elementary	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines	OS/System76 https://t.co/w0YnaqZJeZ (www.mylinuxrig.com)	Jul 08 12:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 12:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com \| The Linux Setup - Cassidy James Blaede, elementary... - My Linux Rig		Jul 08 12:30
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/otivar55/status/751453990437683204	Jul 08 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@otivar55: Hi dad xx https://t.co/8bhZomKWiF		Jul 08 12:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: UK’s secret, ongoing mass surveillance rigorously frisked by watchdog https://t.co/YkiKSEvH24 #surveillance #uk		Jul 08 12:34
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/aral/status/751454032531783680	Jul 08 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aral: If we let it… #regulate #legislate #demonstrate https://t.co/RPcoYQTDeb		Jul 08 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How Facial Recognition Will Soon End Anonymity https://t.co/PDEBiv8lJC #privacy		Jul 08 12:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453300722196480	Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	LXLE 16.04 "Eclectica" Distro Will Be Based on Ubuntu	Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	16.04 LTS, Beta Out Now https://t.co/Ea0QLIBDTf	Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| LXLE 16.04 "Eclectica" Distro Will Be Based on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, Beta Out Now		Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453520595943424	Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	UBOS beta 7 makes running TLS-enabled web apps even	Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	easier on EC2, Raspberry Pi 3, others, with more apps	Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BqWdsBF4G4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 12:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 12:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| UBOS beta 7 makes running TLS-enabled web apps even easier on EC2, Raspberry Pi 3, others, with more apps \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 12:38
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*TweetTuxMachines @jgderose favourited 'The Linux Setup - Cassidy James Blaede, elementary...'		Jul 08 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487444202115074	Jul 08 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	Fancy an Ubuntu-powered rival to Apple’s Siri?	Jul 08 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/R8ktplhp7r (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 14:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fancy an Ubuntu-powered rival to Apple’s Siri? \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487445338689536	Jul 08 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	Star Cloud PCG03U is a compact Ubuntu PC for $90	Jul 08 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mKsh13u6EN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 14:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Star Cloud PCG03U is a compact Ubuntu PC for $90 \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487446152417280	Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	Use Linux or Tor? The NSA might just be tracking you	Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uny8E73HgP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Use Linux or Tor? The NSA might just be tracking you \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487446852915201	Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Tablet Review: Remarkably	Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	Unsatisfying Review https://t.co/9BuT11sO55	Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 14:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Tablet Review: Remarkably Unsatisfying Review \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 14:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487447536513024	Jul 08 16:06
TweetTuxMachines	World’s smallest quad-core SBC starts at $8	Jul 08 16:06
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SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ping	Jul 08 16:24
razielle_tzu	usp	Jul 08 16:24
razielle_tzu	*sup	Jul 08 16:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Why are some girls or a lot really, so sweet so cute, or uh mostly, well young ones anyway, I mean like 19 or so :D h eh, and if they reolise that or not ?	Jul 08 16:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	well the few who will actsaully message a guy of my age that is as well, the rest uh	Jul 08 16:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	honestly about 10 years age difference isn't that much	Jul 08 16:25
razielle_tzu	i have no idea, they just tend to be. i don't know many girls (online or irl) that are younger than 22	Jul 08 16:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I am seen as to old now by most girls who are younger than say 22 now	Jul 08 16:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I am in contact with one here and thee when I bother to text her	Jul 08 16:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	from a more friend ship making site	Jul 08 16:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	annoyingly she doens't text me first ever!	Jul 08 16:26
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 08 16:26
razielle_tzu	few people message me first, got used to it	Jul 08 16:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	but when texting it's a bit of a fun, and she's sweet and such	Jul 08 16:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	annoyingly she won't just phone though one of those uh!	Jul 08 16:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, she also at first hought I was a bit to old to, but we stayed in contact anyway :d	Jul 08 16:27
razielle_tzu	i prefer text or IM... i get anxious on the phone	Jul 08 16:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah she's one of those gets anxious on the phone or so she says	Jul 08 16:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	that's something else, why do a lot of girls apparnatly get anxious on the phone ?	Jul 08 16:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	or young ish ones	Jul 08 16:27
razielle_tzu	there could be any number of reasons for it but it's mostly not being used to it because text/IM is so much easier for them	Jul 08 16:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah and I guess the younger ones are more used to it than us	Jul 08 16:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean I didn't have Internet access untill ike 10 then yes the world of online text chat etc	Jul 08 16:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	younger than us grown up with INtenret all there lifes a lot	Jul 08 16:29
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 16:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, why do you get anxious on the phone ?	Jul 08 16:29
razielle_tzu	i have general anxiety issues as well as being bipolar	Jul 08 16:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	ah right	Jul 08 16:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	what were the anxity issues ?	Jul 08 16:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, and aww but your awesome, except maybe for being so far up n orth h eh h eh, and being into girls h e h h eh altough that's kind of inteesting he h h eh	Jul 08 16:31
razielle_tzu	i was bullied until i was about 19 for various reasons as well as going through all kinds of shit as a young kid so i lost myself in books and games.. then later computers so i get nervous talking to people via any medium but text	Jul 08 16:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh chatting in the public channel, well you said you were open about stuff etc and that	Jul 08 16:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yes I can relate to that	Jul 08 16:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, in person world can like suck or mostly since bullying etc at shcool and what not or colege	Jul 08 16:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	then get home	Jul 08 16:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	and it's like WOW	Jul 08 16:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	Internet	Jul 08 16:33
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 16:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and most people on the Internet acsualy want to be your friend as well OW	Jul 08 16:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	WOW	Jul 08 16:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	that get in contact with	Jul 08 16:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	shame the in person world isn't as easy to make friends !	Jul 08 16:33
razielle_tzu	at 19 i was running with a skate crew that also did some parkour so if i wasn't online i was climbing, running or skating	Jul 08 16:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 16:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I remember when I used to help out in #ubuntu a lot in 2008 2009 and 2010	Jul 08 16:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	since it was like	Jul 08 16:34
razielle_tzu	and if i was online i was doing all kinds of things	Jul 08 16:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	a way to escape from the sucky in perosn life I was having at the time or well mostly sucky as well	Jul 08 16:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	and after the last sucky ICT course didn't go so well, for the social issues, bad lectures etc, well it made sense really, I know computers, I am good at helping people get set up etc	Jul 08 16:35
razielle_tzu	i wasn't on irc so much but i was easy to find on icq or various forums and some of the BBSs that were still running	Jul 08 16:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, probably the thing I have helped most with when it comes to Ubuntu has been partitining new installs and stuff like that	Jul 08 16:35
razielle_tzu	i've kinda gone off ubuntu, some of the distros based on it are ok but i'm leaning more towards CentOS and arch for linux now as well as openBSD	Jul 08 16:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, indeed I gone off of it really for a desktop computer altough been using it longer than intended on a newer lap top like that, since that's not set up properly yet how I want it for a few reasons	Jul 08 16:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	however for the phone and tablet I do indeed seem to be won over	Jul 08 16:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but Jolla phone with Salifish OS is also rather nice for example	Jul 08 16:37
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 16:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but well Desktop Ubuntu is going to get interesting again soon	Jul 08 16:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	starting with like 16.10	Jul 08 16:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	it's been quite boring the past few releases really	Jul 08 16:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	Unity 8 will be there not as the default, but as a default option in the next versibion	Jul 08 16:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	as an option from the default log in screen	Jul 08 16:38
razielle_tzu	14.04 as the last release i really liked but looking back i can't remember why	Jul 08 16:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	for now can try from a old one in the repos or a newer ppa on a computer	Jul 08 16:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	the last one I really liked was 8.10	Jul 08 16:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	Intrepid Ibex	Jul 08 16:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	really liked that release	Jul 08 16:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	the way Gnome 2 was like, and that awesome default background to	Jul 08 16:38
razielle_tzu	yeah Gnome2 was good	Jul 08 16:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, they started messing around with GNOME 2 after that customing it doing things I Wansn't keen on and such	Jul 08 16:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that later went to what became Unity as well	Jul 08 16:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	some of those ideas	Jul 08 16:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	became part of Unity really	Jul 08 16:39
razielle_tzu	Gnome3 and Unity are basically the same thing and they suck	Jul 08 16:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	the default install meant quite a lot to me years ago	Jul 08 16:39
cubexyz	X11 + motif :)	Jul 08 16:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	I wanted a good default install I still do	Jul 08 16:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so with 10.04 it was like ah!	Jul 08 16:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	to much things I didn't like in GNOME 2 that they had put in or whatever, and also that horrible new default theme	Jul 08 16:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	augine/pruple thing, which well at least looks good on the Ubuntu phone an tablet by default though the background they have :d	Jul 08 16:40
razielle_tzu	i'm either going to fix a mint install or replace it with openbsd. not sure yet	Jul 08 16:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	replace possibly with openbsd why and what's up with the mint install?	Jul 08 16:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	cybezyx uhmm what's motif ?	Jul 08 16:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz	Jul 08 16:41
razielle_tzu	it's not booting past the grub menu and i kinda want to give a different version of BSD a go	Jul 08 16:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	BSD why?	Jul 08 16:42
razielle_tzu	why not?	Jul 08 16:43
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/mwm-with-antialiased-fonts.png	Jul 08 16:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh and h eh h eh I think it would be awesome to meet up some time in the future :) even if your into girls h eh h eh	Jul 08 16:43
razielle_tzu	looking good cubexyz	Jul 08 16:44
razielle_tzu	and yeah meet ups are always fun SebthreeBQM10HD	Jul 08 16:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it was Yorkshire though wasn't it or something like that?	Jul 08 16:44
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 16:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but maybe you'll end up going to the awesome FOSDEM or OGG Camp when that's probably on again	Jul 08 16:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	or something like that :)	Jul 08 16:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	no OGG Camp this year it seems, the UK event	Jul 08 16:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	England event	Jul 08 16:45
razielle_tzu	i don't make it to many events any more	Jul 08 16:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	why's that, and what have you been to then it seems?	Jul 08 16:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	my family may be a bit hmm me going to Brussels again next year for FOSDEM after what happended there the other month	Jul 08 16:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but it seems might even have a guy to go with who's coming to my LUG next time as well :d	Jul 08 16:45
razielle_tzu	i can't afford them at the moment but i've been to a couple of FOSSDEMs and some national events	Jul 08 16:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh wow you have been to FOSDEM	Jul 08 16:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	when did you go?	Jul 08 16:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I done 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and this year, and those years for OGG Camp as well, well ok none this year it seems	Jul 08 16:46
razielle_tzu	2011 was the last one i could make	Jul 08 16:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	and indeed if not working with a well enough paid job or something like that	Jul 08 16:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	or with family who can help out enough or something or someone from if neassreyto cover costs :D	Jul 08 16:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	then yes events really are expensive, once adding in hotel in there, and more so if flying to another country as well	Jul 08 16:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	and the trains aren't that cheap for longish distance here as well really	Jul 08 16:48
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razielle_tzu	true	Jul 08 16:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	dum de dum DaemonFC long time no see I think ????	Jul 08 16:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah benefits money isn't really meant to be spent on events, or even 500 pound courses, but if you save up enough you could spend :d	Jul 08 16:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	like that	Jul 08 16:49
razielle_tzu	no that i've quit smoking i'm hoping to save for at least one national event next year	Jul 08 16:49
razielle_tzu	*now	Jul 08 16:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, 500 pounds for a sucky Level 2 course similar o the same as what I did at college last time uh no thanks, but someone who's coming to my LUG it sems is doing one now it's a self learn thing at ome though	Jul 08 16:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I am not spending 500 pounds on any course any time soon, and if I am going to spend such money, I'll make sure it's on a good course I Think :)	Jul 08 16:50
razielle_tzu	i'm doing a comp degree with a CCNA soon :D	Jul 08 16:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh you smoked, yeah that's not good, but congratulatiosn for quiting when you do that :)? how long did you smoke for?	Jul 08 16:51
razielle_tzu	16 years and i quit last week	Jul 08 16:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	your doing a what? what's that? got a link even ? oh yeah I can't click links yet on this tablet since... but the update is coming coming uhmm in uhmm I guess another few weeks or so yet	Jul 08 16:51
razielle_tzu	i'm doing a BSc in computing with the Open University and one of the module options is a Cisco qualification for network admin	Jul 08 16:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh right ok nice :)	Jul 08 16:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	but you go to be motivated enough to study at home for stuff like that	Jul 08 16:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	and it will cost yes	Jul 08 16:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	how much that cost?	Jul 08 16:52
razielle_tzu	i get most of the fees waived and what i have to pay is covered by loans from the SLC	Jul 08 16:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	fees waived how ?	Jul 08 16:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's SLC ?	Jul 08 16:53
razielle_tzu	student's loan company	Jul 08 16:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 16:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	what since low income benefits even ?	Jul 08 16:53
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 16:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	in other uhmm non related news, we are having a female prime minster next it seems	Jul 08 16:54
razielle_tzu	hopefully not for long	Jul 08 16:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	minds gone blank to the names right now, but uhmmm yes her probably, the uhmm	Jul 08 16:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh	Jul 08 16:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	minds gone blank for names as I put	Jul 08 16:54
razielle_tzu	theresa may?	Jul 08 16:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	yep bingo that's it	Jul 08 16:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	Theresa May probably	Jul 08 16:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	there's another woman candidae, but I have a feeling she won't be it	Jul 08 16:54
razielle_tzu	they'll both be bad for the country and should call an early general election	Jul 08 16:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, you don't want a woman prime minster ?	Jul 08 16:55
razielle_tzu	i do but i want a DECENT one	Jul 08 16:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	who would be a decent one?	Jul 08 16:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	is Thersea May that bad really? ok she's conservative, but	Jul 08 16:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	she voted to remain and for ceratin marraiges and yeah	Jul 08 16:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	or so media saiid the tv	Jul 08 16:55
razielle_tzu	tbh the only mp i'd consider for PM would be corbyn (if he could sort his party ouT)	Jul 08 16:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	well there were issues there	Jul 08 16:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	he won't get in	Jul 08 16:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	a ED Miliband goverment could hve been interesting prime minster, but that didn't happen	Jul 08 16:56
razielle_tzu	if they call for an election to get rid of him as labour leader he'd win again and get rid of the people that are stabbing him in the back	Jul 08 16:56
razielle_tzu	they know this so they won't call for it	Jul 08 16:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it might work for nicolas advantage having a woman to an extent or not	Jul 08 16:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I mean she will probably try and get a Scotland going free vote again so	Jul 08 16:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	referfendum	Jul 08 16:57
razielle_tzu	sturgeon would be a good leader on her own but hollyrood has to answer to westminster so she gets hobbled	Jul 08 16:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	hollyrood a place in Scotland ?	Jul 08 16:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	and indeed I agree with that it seems she would be a good prime minster or something like that, but yes Scotland has to answer to England/Westminster for now so	Jul 08 16:58
razielle_tzu	yeah, it's where the scottish parliament meet	Jul 08 16:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	I agree with my Scottish friend online freind, well mett him in 2012 he came here :d	Jul 08 16:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	I think I am agreeing with him more now	Jul 08 16:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	that Scotland should go free really	Jul 08 16:58
razielle_tzu	scotland should leave the uk and remain in the EU and Yorkshire should be made part of Scotland ;)	Jul 08 16:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	Yorkshire is nearish to Scotland	Jul 08 16:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that won't just became Scotland	Jul 08 16:59
razielle_tzu	it should	Jul 08 16:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	you think it should why ?	Jul 08 16:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	also actaully other than Wales quite a lot of the leave EU voters were up North	Jul 08 17:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	as well	Jul 08 17:00
razielle_tzu	because i'd rather answer to Hollyrood than Westminstter	Jul 08 17:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	or North west anyway or wahtever but hmm either way	Jul 08 17:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	North	Jul 08 17:00
razielle_tzu	of course they were... there's a TON of old people here that outvoted the younger people	Jul 08 17:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	to an extent it was good having EU there to like say no to ceratin things	Jul 08 17:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	that conservatives wanted etc	Jul 08 17:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	h eh	Jul 08 17:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ever crows funded anything?	Jul 08 17:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	crowd funded	Jul 08 17:10
razielle_tzu	not for myself no, have donated to a couple of projects though	Jul 08 17:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, well one of the interesting things I crowd funded ths year	Jul 08 17:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	was meant to be shipped like two weeks or so ago now	Jul 08 17:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	but	Jul 08 17:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	a fire in the factory instead	Jul 08 17:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but just seen a recent update ;) seems it will be shipped at the end of August, maybe sooner	Jul 08 17:11
razielle_tzu	shit happens, sometimes there's delays	Jul 08 17:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah indeed	Jul 08 17:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	but the fire happended like the weekend before htey were going to ship them	Jul 08 17:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, sometimes people go off with your money as well instead of getting anyting! that happended with one from last year it seems uh	Jul 08 17:13
razielle_tzu	most crowd funding won't take your money until the project is ready for shipping	Jul 08 17:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I coudn't just claim waht I had paid for invested whatever, got into a meail discussion, oh I was going to maybe buy patron I say	Jul 08 17:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	he trys to offer me more stuff at a discounted thing though	Jul 08 17:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	price	Jul 08 17:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, apparnatly the google play vouchester as singapore only part of one of some of the perks	Jul 08 17:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	there were broken pages on his site to	Jul 08 17:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	I had tipped off a bit in emails, things didn't just get fixed	Jul 08 17:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, eventually I as like ok update my account, asi n send me the other stuff, aparnatly I Had like 10 days to get out of I think, I try to get out of it, reolising I Don't want two of them etc plus the stand etc, uh there I meant	Jul 08 17:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	two with slight updates	Jul 08 17:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	three tablets	Jul 08 17:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	there cheapish Android tablets, with some kind of custom software or whatevr it was	Jul 08 17:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	but he didnt respond to the next month when apparnatly had been sending them out	Jul 08 17:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, and then teh sillyness began etc	Jul 08 17:16
razielle_tzu	i use kickstarter and indiegogo to check projects out because of how they handle funding for projects	Jul 08 17:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	I coun't just pay up, didn't have the o money as well	Jul 08 17:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah the one I Had issues with was on indiegog go	Jul 08 17:17
razielle_tzu	strange	Jul 08 17:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	he sent some more emails	Jul 08 17:17
razielle_tzu	they're usually pretty good	Jul 08 17:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	trying to get me to pay or see where I was etc	Jul 08 17:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	what had happended to me, I started not responding etc	Jul 08 17:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	months went by a bit, I emailed again in march asking for a full re fund, etc, ah yes before al that he had sent one like, we don't want ot open up the parcel	Jul 08 17:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	you agreed to pay for stuf, that's unprofessioanl of you etc etc	Jul 08 17:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway in March I emailed again, got the automatic email response from the server bu that was it	Jul 08 17:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so it seems this guy has gone off with my about 100 pounds	Jul 08 17:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I have got nothing	Jul 08 17:18
razielle_tzu	:/	Jul 08 17:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and yes apparnatly the parcel had been waiting there in Singapore	Jul 08 17:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	for months or whatever	Jul 08 17:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	the one that he coudl have opended up but didn'tj ust want to	Jul 08 17:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, now I Haven't contacted indiegogo about this have thought about it before, but going by google it seems, that indiegogo don't help much	Jul 08 17:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	they go like, uh it's not our fault, you invested money etc etc	Jul 08 17:19
razielle_tzu	they used to be really helpful, guess that's changed	Jul 08 17:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	it's up to you and th campaigner to try and sort things out	Jul 08 17:19
razielle_tzu	kickstarter still rock though	Jul 08 17:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	I should probably try indiegogo really	Jul 08 17:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	even though it's nearly a year now	Jul 08 17:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	I did also read osme where online, that apparnatly on indiegogo pretty much anything can go up on that	Jul 08 17:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	no checks basically	Jul 08 17:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	but on kickstarter they actsually check projects or something	Jul 08 17:20
razielle_tzu	yeah they do	Jul 08 17:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	so certain things that were rejected on kickstarter for whatever reason	Jul 08 17:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	will go on indiegogo instead it seems	Jul 08 17:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, a guy from my LUG, was like to me, crowd funded is a bit like giivng your money tothe bookies	Jul 08 17:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	he menas it's like a gamble	Jul 08 17:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess it is really, but it mostly works out I think. I have recieved some crowd funded things now :)	Jul 08 17:21
razielle_tzu	it can be if you're not vigilant with it	Jul 08 17:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but with hind sight a similar campain broken links	Jul 08 17:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	not that clear what going to actsaully get etc etc	Jul 08 17:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	would ring alarm bells now	Jul 08 17:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	after what hapended	Jul 08 17:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean after that even, one or two campains I din't fund, because I Thought it woudn't be worht it the waiting to see what would happpen or not etc, but otherwise might have	Jul 08 17:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but yeah I Got scammed out of about 100 pounds then or something?	Jul 08 17:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and the tablet I Was trying to get ended up on Amazon as well, as part of the indiegogo thing they got	Jul 08 17:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	apparnatly it wasn't that great the hardware and such going by a comment	Jul 08 17:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	I even saw before that there was like a competin he was running and someon was going to get one for free aparnatly, uhmm if giving them away for free, why not send the one I paid for	Jul 08 17:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Crowd funding is interesitng when it works, get interesting ech that won't get in retail ever and such	Jul 08 17:24
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 17:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, there are other types of campaings to, but I don't really look at that, or much, if I had more money I would possibly though more. so I stick to my main interest tech!	Jul 08 17:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	I could of had a cameo character named after me in a Creativ Commons film for example though, but didn't fund that in the end	Jul 08 17:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I like having interesting tech devices and such	Jul 08 17:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, stuf that most people won't have or kind of thing	Jul 08 17:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	I like being difernet :)	Jul 08 17:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	Android is good enough for what it is, but that's also mostly boring now, unless something based on it that's interesting or something, ANdroid is all over the place out there in the general public now	Jul 08 17:26
razielle_tzu	fair enough	Jul 08 17:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so yeah Ubuntu phones jolla phone, firefox stuff etc	Jul 08 17:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	that's ineresting to	Jul 08 17:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	]	Jul 08 17:28
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 17:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm was moving tablet so wasn't going to put that character, but yes that looks like a :) and sure could put a :) at the end of that	Jul 08 17:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I guess another interes of mine would be girls more, but so far I don't have much luck with that one uh h eh h eh	Jul 08 17:29
razielle_tzu	heh	Jul 08 17:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, remind me, you were tottally lesbain or bi ?	Jul 08 17:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	and either way you are an awesome person :)	Jul 08 17:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	geek girl wow :)	Jul 08 17:30
razielle_tzu	bi but leaning towards lesbian	Jul 08 17:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	h eh I remember when one of the most interesging people in here was MinceR h eh	Jul 08 17:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	and that australlian guy oiahom whatever he was called	Jul 08 17:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	and deamonfc sometimes h eh	Jul 08 17:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	but now we got razielle_tzu :) h eh	Jul 08 17:32
razielle_tzu	i'm not that interesting though	Jul 08 17:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	sorry cubexyz you were nice and kind of interesting to, but not enough with your old tech your fedora core 1 and yeah, h eh h eh sort of joking here	Jul 08 17:33
cubexyz	I don't think of FC1 as old	Jul 08 17:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I am still not sure how schestowitz does it, all that bloggin etc, whilst having a girl friend, having some kind of job, and also going to the gym	Jul 08 17:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz well it was from like 2003 wasn't it ?	Jul 08 17:34
cubexyz	old is mag core :)	Jul 08 17:35
razielle_tzu	it's called time management ;)	Jul 08 17:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's mag core ?	Jul 08 17:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah but its crazy in a way	Jul 08 17:35
cubexyz	ok, have you heard of 'core dumps'?	Jul 08 17:35
razielle_tzu	i know i couldn't do it right now	Jul 08 17:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, how he can do all that, atough he did say before that he would write some blog posts whils on say the tred meal at the gym if I reember correcly	Jul 08 17:36
cubexyz	I assume you have... the term comes from magnetic core memory...	Jul 08 17:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, even Tim the co host of the pod cast that was done before with him and schestowitz thought it to	Jul 08 17:36
cubexyz	in other words before semi-conductors	Jul 08 17:36
cubexyz	yes, I'm feeling the gen gap today :-/	Jul 08 17:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	cybexyx nah your not that old it seems, since core dumps means something to me	Jul 08 17:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I can't really think of what h eh right now	Jul 08 17:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but yes tech thing	Jul 08 17:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	software	Jul 08 17:37
cubexyz	ok, old is Unix v5 from 1974...which I think is worthy of study	Jul 08 17:37
cubexyz	(almost) everything came out of Bell Labs remember	Jul 08 17:38
cubexyz	the transistor and Unix itself	Jul 08 17:38
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 17:38
cubexyz	all the other stuff like Linux, Android, all because of Bell Labs Unix	Jul 08 17:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	so uhjmm ah yes now I remember do you pretty much live on IRC razielle_tzu like 99% or so of the time or so, or well for now ?	Jul 08 17:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	and why :D ?	Jul 08 17:39
razielle_tzu	i'm always connected but not always here	Jul 08 17:39
cubexyz	even BSD is kind of a side-show, but also very important	Jul 08 17:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	Minix!	Jul 08 17:40
cubexyz	at least Minix supported Amiga for a while	Jul 08 17:41
cubexyz	very painful to use though	Jul 08 17:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah not usd that	Jul 08 17:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	not even in a vm	Jul 08 17:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I guss can download it from some where	Jul 08 17:42
razielle_tzu	probably	Jul 08 17:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway BSD, MINI, UHMM Not so known OSes etc	Jul 08 17:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 17:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 17:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 17:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	the world is uhmm	Jul 08 17:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	like it or not	Jul 08 17:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	mostly about, Windows, Mac OS X, and then Linux that's for desktop cmputing	Jul 08 17:43
cubexyz	except the tcp/ip stack was from BSD :)	Jul 08 17:43
cubexyz	kind of important	Jul 08 17:43
razielle_tzu	;)	Jul 08 17:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	for mobile, Android, IoS, Windows maybe kind of still	Jul 08 17:44
razielle_tzu	nah windows is almost dead on mobile looking at the last few quarters sales	Jul 08 17:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	Blackberry has gone Android so eh	Jul 08 17:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I see Ubuntu Touch as a possible future more main streme player in well	Jul 08 17:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	a few years I guess if that's going to happen	Jul 08 17:44
cubexyz	it's really true, people don't learn from history	Jul 08 17:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah I did know that by the wya that tcp/ip was borrowed by Microsoft from BSD	Jul 08 17:45
razielle_tzu	"borrowed"	Jul 08 17:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh yeah Tizen might become quite big	Jul 08 17:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	if Samsung really do go	Jul 08 17:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	Android eh, we will do Tizen on our phones from now on	Jul 08 17:45
cubexyz	btw my Sony HDTV is a linux	Jul 08 17:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	that runs what?	Jul 08 17:46
razielle_tzu	aren't a lot of smart tvs?	Jul 08 17:46
cubexyz	it's not a smart tv, but yes	Jul 08 17:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	Panasonc still does firefox os i belive for smart tv's	Jul 08 17:46
cubexyz	there's probably Android HDTVs now? I don't know	Jul 08 17:47
razielle_tzu	possibly, i haven't looked	Jul 08 17:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	I have some sort of razielle_tzu robot, she runs Linux, and is awesome :), sometimes she wants to be run by BSD instead of Linux though, but I tell her then that no Linux is where stuff like that is motly at these days!	Jul 08 17:47
razielle_tzu	depends on what she wants to do with BSD :P	Jul 08 17:48
cubexyz	ok, quick recap on why BSD is important:	Jul 08 17:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	well what would a robot run by Linux be able to do if she was run by BSD instead :d ?	Jul 08 17:49
razielle_tzu	what can it do on linux that it wouldn't be able to do with bsd?	Jul 08 17:49
cubexyz	TCP/IP stack, vi, basically a more traditional Unix, more integrated in general	Jul 08 17:50
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, be cooler than the real you maybe he h h eh :d :) ?	Jul 08 17:50
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 08 17:50
cubexyz	ok, I don't want to hear "what's vi"	Jul 08 17:50
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz ha ha I know what vi is I don't use it though, also I know there's like a thing between which is better vi or vim, or you know what even emacs :d	Jul 08 17:51
*SebthreeBQM10HD hmm hasn't emacs installed for years		Jul 08 17:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	hasn't had	Jul 08 17:52
razielle_tzu	wasn't there more that made bsd important? or are you just getting started?	Jul 08 17:52
razielle_tzu	:P	Jul 08 17:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and you know what, Linux, BSD whatever whatever oh and that's GNU/Linux but you know what whatever to those, Hurd is where things are at now yeah, oh yeah baby awesome! he he	Jul 08 17:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm more seriosuly if Hurd had been more developed etc	Jul 08 17:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	we would be in differnet world	Jul 08 17:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	things would have been mostly about Hurd rather than Linux	Jul 08 17:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess	Jul 08 17:54
cubexyz	ok...strings, head, tail, uptime, telnet, ftp, ntp, ping, rlogin, sendmail	Jul 08 17:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	aoparntly hurd is actually resoanbly useble now for certain things, a bit like how ReactOS has actully gone reasoanbly far in th past fw yers now, you can run word and such in it :D	Jul 08 17:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, your saying those things came from the BSD world?	Jul 08 17:55
cubexyz	yes	Jul 08 17:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz ok I guess that would make sense, since it's mostly aimed at servers and neworks anyway isn't it ?	Jul 08 17:56
cubexyz	it's a long hair OS really	Jul 08 17:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	what do you mean by that?	Jul 08 17:57
cubexyz	Berkeley west coast academia...	Jul 08 17:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh?	Jul 08 17:58
cubexyz	University of California and all that	Jul 08 17:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh ok I guesss	Jul 08 17:59
cubexyz	Free Speech, Free source code :)	Jul 08 17:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	Free Speech Free Softare	Jul 08 18:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	software	Jul 08 18:00
cubexyz	ok, let me draw a picture...	Jul 08 18:00
cubexyz	IBM = the short hairs	Jul 08 18:00
cubexyz	Bell Labs and Berkeley = the long hairs :)	Jul 08 18:00
razielle_tzu	bsd was originally an extension of AT&T's Research UNIX	Jul 08 18:01
SebthreeBQM10HD	and razielle_tzu = hairy	Jul 08 18:01
cubexyz	IBM guys = mainframe, Bell Labs = minis	Jul 08 18:03
razielle_tzu	that's not nice SebthreeBQM10HD	Jul 08 18:04
razielle_tzu	i'm not THAT hairy, most of the time	Jul 08 18:04
cubexyz	I'm a late convert to BSD, but I know some stuff	Jul 08 18:05
razielle_tzu	:)	Jul 08 18:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, h eh I was being silly, and your head is probably quite hairy :d	Jul 08 18:06
razielle_tzu	you've seen one of my most recent pics :P	Jul 08 18:06
cubexyz	it goes a bit like this:	Jul 08 18:07
cubexyz	PDP-7 -> PDP-11/20 -> PDP-11/40 -> PDP-11/45 -> PDP-11/70 -> Vax 11/780	Jul 08 18:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah why do quite few of the pretty girls a few things, but it doesn't matter your up north anyway h eh	Jul 08 18:07
razielle_tzu	now there's something i'd like to play with, Vax11/780	Jul 08 18:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's tht?	Jul 08 18:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	some sort of old softwre or computr or something ?	Jul 08 18:09
cubexyz	the first Vax man!	Jul 08 18:09
cubexyz	come on :)	Jul 08 18:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	what is Vax man?	Jul 08 18:09
razielle_tzu	i know right, i'd need a dino pen for it though :/	Jul 08 18:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's a dino pen ?	Jul 08 18:09
razielle_tzu	it's a room designed for the older computers that took up a lot of space	Jul 08 18:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 18:10
cubexyz	dino pen :)	Jul 08 18:10
razielle_tzu	i wonder if there are any abandoned ones in the area...	Jul 08 18:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	dinosauser pen ?	Jul 08 18:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	but seriosuly what do you mean dino pen ?	Jul 08 18:10
cubexyz	32v, the first 32-bit Unix, add that one to the list	Jul 08 18:11
razielle_tzu	it's the name given to the old mainframe rooms, it had space under the floor for the cabling, a halon system and a scram switch in case things set on fire	Jul 08 18:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 18:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	and what' a scram switch?	Jul 08 18:11
razielle_tzu	it's a switch that cut the power and set off the halon system to put out fires	Jul 08 18:12
cubexyz	it's a nuke term originally I think	Jul 08 18:12
razielle_tzu	yeah because you'd hit it and scram	Jul 08 18:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, you were meant to be guy, your to nerd to be female a proper female :d and since you were meant to be guy you wan to date girls h eh	Jul 08 18:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, joke	Jul 08 18:12
cubexyz	the thing is, there used to be a lot of women programmers	Jul 08 18:13
razielle_tzu	we were the first >.<	Jul 08 18:13
razielle_tzu	arguably anyway	Jul 08 18:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, in America yeah I guess, probably not so much in UK	Jul 08 18:13
razielle_tzu	even here	Jul 08 18:14
razielle_tzu	back in the day	Jul 08 18:14
cubexyz	where is here?	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	well society ruined it	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	then	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	tech is motly a guy thing	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	as is enginnierng	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	tht' what society did	Jul 08 18:14
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: we're both in the UK, just different areas	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	plu they though boring things at school and collges	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh word, excel, poerpoint	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh how fun!	Jul 08 18:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean that right here shows that computers are really exciteing!	Jul 08 18:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	right there above	Jul 08 18:15
cubexyz	the 70s might have actually been the best time in many ways	Jul 08 18:15
razielle_tzu	70s and early 70s	Jul 08 18:16
razielle_tzu	*80s	Jul 08 18:16
cubexyz	qmc and a lot of Universities were hacking on Unix v6	Jul 08 18:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	90's was alriht for me at infants and juniours school	Jul 08 18:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	mostly juniors	Jul 08 18:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	primary school	Jul 08 18:16
cubexyz	you know about QMC I imagine?	Jul 08 18:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	for computing I guss	Jul 08 18:16
razielle_tzu	the 90s could have gone better and don't even talk about 2000+ >.<	Jul 08 18:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	got to play around with the achornsa bit	Jul 08 18:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but mostly for gaming and that was about it	Jul 08 18:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	there was novel waever for netwofk and yeah	Jul 08 18:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	bbc for logo	Jul 08 18:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	Windows pc's came when I was lke yer 5 or 5	Jul 08 18:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	no Internet yet	Jul 08 18:17
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: remind me of QMC	Jul 08 18:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	at that school, but yes I got to try out some diffenret types of computrs a bit	Jul 08 18:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ha ha yes, 2000 + was uhmm awesome, Windows PC's took over, bye bye the old achorns or nearly if not	Jul 08 18:18
cubexyz	Queen Mary College in London	Jul 08 18:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	well yes those went bye bye in early 200's	Jul 08 18:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	bye bye bbc if not gone already	Jul 08 18:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	hello wINDOWS PC's, and for some people macs	Jul 08 18:18
razielle_tzu	i know of the college but can't remember why it's important	Jul 08 18:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and helo ICT being mostly Microsoft Office	Jul 08 18:18
cubexyz	qmc did a lot of excellent work on Unix	Jul 08 18:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	and if oidng any programing wel drag and drog on a form uhmm visual basic	Jul 08 18:19
cubexyz	I learned a lot from the qmc source code	Jul 08 18:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	bang a bit of code behind a button icon thing	Jul 08 18:19
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SebthreeBQM10HD	QMC what's that a old OS ?	Jul 08 18:19
razielle_tzu	SebthreeBQM10HD: it's a college in london	Jul 08 18:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	OH	Jul 08 18:19
razielle_tzu	queen mary's	Jul 08 18:20
razielle_tzu	it was the first place in teh uk to get unix iirc	Jul 08 18:20
cubexyz	QMC people wrote the pop library, I thought it was quite clever	Jul 08 18:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	OH	Jul 08 18:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	andindeed Unix was an American thing relly	Jul 08 18:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	e had achorn instad and bbc	Jul 08 18:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	we	Jul 08 18:21
cubexyz	QMC improved ed and created em	Jul 08 18:21
razielle_tzu	i'm reading an interview on it now	Jul 08 18:21
razielle_tzu	qmc was the first site to get unix (version 4 in 1973) :D	Jul 08 18:22
cubexyz	interesting, I didn't realize it went all the way back to v4	Jul 08 18:22
cubexyz	let me know if you find any v4 source	Jul 08 18:22
razielle_tzu	sure	Jul 08 18:23
cubexyz	I don't think anyone has a complete working Unix v4 now	Jul 08 18:23
razielle_tzu	all i'm finding is wiki pages and interviews, plus some stuff about compiling v4 apps for linux	Jul 08 18:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	or not cubexy anyway he's not old skool enough it turns out!	Jul 08 18:24
razielle_tzu	but cubexyz, here's the interview i'm reading http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/~gc/history/	Jul 08 18:24
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razielle_tzu	it even has some stuff at hte bottom about em	Jul 08 18:25
cubexyz	Seb, it's all relative	Jul 08 18:25
cubexyz	I didn't work on ENIAC so ... :)	Jul 08 18:26
razielle_tzu	that would have been cool to work on	Jul 08 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751507867807522816	Jul 08 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	Debian 8.5 vs. Debian Testing Benchmarks - July 2016	Jul 08 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2xXik0fFL2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 18:26
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razielle_tzu	ENIAC did well to last 9 years of operation given the materials and stuff available	Jul 08 18:30
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cubexyz	sometimes I watch 1940s films just to see the technology of the era	Jul 08 19:14
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 19:16
cubexyz	it was DARPA that really built the computer network to link all the research centres together	Jul 08 19:26
cubexyz	DARPA got interested in Unix, and after that we got enhanced 3BSD for DARPA	Jul 08 19:27
razielle_tzu	ah DARPA :3	Jul 08 19:28
cubexyz	I just think of BSD as a general purpose OS	Jul 08 19:28
razielle_tzu	it is, it's just that most people assume it's just for servers/infrastructure	Jul 08 19:29
cubexyz	but it is a good server OS for sure	Jul 08 19:29
cubexyz	there's even openbsd on PDAs like the Sharp Zaurus...	Jul 08 19:30
cubexyz	I mentioned BSD on Amiga & Vax	Jul 08 19:30
razielle_tzu	one of the rasons BSD isn't as well known is unlike Linux and the rest it doesn't have any real corporate backing/pushers despite how widely it's deployed on the infrastructure of the net	Jul 08 19:31
razielle_tzu	*reasons	Jul 08 19:31
cubexyz	there's some BSD dislike (even hate) in the Linux community	Jul 08 19:34
razielle_tzu	i don't see why though	Jul 08 19:34
cubexyz	I heard that Theo de Raadt kind of is hard to get along with	Jul 08 19:35
cubexyz	and there's the whole BSD vs GPL thing	Jul 08 19:35
razielle_tzu	yeah but Linus is a bitch to get on with too most of the time	Jul 08 19:36
cubexyz	yes... well I can't really argue with that :)	Jul 08 19:36
cubexyz	I was treated fairly well by the old guard Unix people	Jul 08 19:37
razielle_tzu	and tbf licensing arguments are silly, use whatever is appropriate for the project and be done with it	Jul 08 19:37
cubexyz	well I first started chatting in #linux I wasn't treated well	Jul 08 19:37
cubexyz	s/well/when/	Jul 08 19:38
cubexyz	I was from the sysv Unix world, just learning about Linux	Jul 08 19:38
razielle_tzu	i haven't been into any of the dedicated OS channels apart from the openbsd one and even in there i haven't spoken yet... it's not a social channel and i don't need help yet though	Jul 08 19:38
cubexyz	the thing is Unix itself started out pretty open... then it closed up and Linux came along and picked up the slack	Jul 08 19:41
cubexyz	then BSD became open again	Jul 08 19:41
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Bassounov/status/751323198969479168	Jul 08 19:43
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razielle_tzu	true	Jul 08 19:45
cubexyz	the truth is though, there's a lot of BSD stuff in Linux	Jul 08 19:46
razielle_tzu	there's lot of BSD stuff EVERYWHERE	Jul 08 19:46
razielle_tzu	but it doesn't get brought back into BSD for the most part because of the way the BSD license works	Jul 08 19:46
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cubexyz	I use GPL for my own stuff	Jul 08 19:47
razielle_tzu	i don't know which i'd use for mine, i've got nothing to publish write now so i have't really thought about it	Jul 08 19:48
cubexyz	yeah, GPL for me, I don't really want Microsoft using my code :)	Jul 08 19:48
razielle_tzu	i guess it depends on what i end up doing, some stuff might be GPL, others might by CC	Jul 08 19:49
cubexyz	I've written some Unix v5 code	Jul 08 19:50
cubexyz	but no one looks at that	Jul 08 19:50
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/751389052587347968	Jul 08 19:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @troyhunt @mmu_man this is misleading, it should be renamed HTTPv1 vs HTTPv2.		Jul 08 19:50
cubexyz	I just wanted to do it... no logical reason really	Jul 08 19:51
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 08 19:51
razielle_tzu	you're right though, almost no one looks at that now	Jul 08 19:51
cubexyz	there's TUHS... the Unix Historical Society	Jul 08 19:51
cubexyz	yeah v5 is interesting	Jul 08 19:51
cubexyz	it's pre-stdio :)	Jul 08 19:52
razielle_tzu	:)	Jul 08 19:52
razielle_tzu	i don't know much about v5 tbh	Jul 08 19:53
cubexyz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6c_0pqLE3w	Jul 08 20:01
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razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 08 20:04
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cubexyz	it's not that hard to learn really	Jul 08 20:09
cubexyz	I have a better understanding of the v5 kernel than I do the linux kernel	Jul 08 20:10
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 08 20:10
razielle_tzu	i wouldn't try to run it on this machine though... seems kinda.. indecent to run it on a windows computer even through a linux vm and emulator for it	Jul 08 20:11
cubexyz	you need to see my famous Unix v5 vs Windows 8.1 comparison...	Jul 08 20:14
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5-vs-windows-8.1.txt	Jul 08 20:14
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 08 20:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751546896590581760	Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	6 Tips for Leveraging Open Source Technology	Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nww4KMMcr8 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 6 Tips for Leveraging Open Source Technology \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751582977054896128	Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	Happy Birthday! Linux turns 25 https://t.co/bVt6R8xHPb	Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworld.com)	Jul 08 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Happy Birthday! Linux turns 25 \| Computerworld		Jul 08 21:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751583166431887360	Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	Managing Linux Using Puppet https://t.co/iE6KyYmReD	Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxjournal.com)	Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| Managing Linux Using Puppet \| Linux Journal		Jul 08 21:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751583437727883265	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	Plasma 5.8 LTS Kickerd Off for Stability and Performance	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AmWqZSQOfw (jriddell.org)	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/HHy773KPpJ (jriddell.org)	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/icXNDwBa5X (news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org \| Plasma 5.8 LTS Kickerd Off for Stability and Performance \| Jonathan Riddell's Diary		Jul 08 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org \| KDE neon Adds KDE Graphics and KDE Multimedia \| Jonathan Riddell's Diary		Jul 08 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Plasma 5.8 Desktop Will Be an LTS Release for Stability and Performance		Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751583591734317056	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Lite 3: The Ideal Platform for Old Hardware and New	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	Users https://t.co/rKZhJBa2iJ (www.linux.com)	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Lite 3: The Ideal Platform for Old Hardware and New Users \| Linux.com \| The source for Linux information		Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751583736311980032	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	CentOS Atomic Host Update Adds Docker 1.10.3, Built From	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	Standard CentOS 7 RPMs https://t.co/RrxnOHau8u	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| CentOS Atomic Host Update Adds Docker 1.10.3, Built From Standard CentOS 7 RPMs		Jul 08 21:09
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751583928385933312	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives Mesa 12.0.0, LibreOffice 5.2	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	RC1 and PulseAudio 9.0 https://t.co/4Dg8e9sHll	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives Mesa 12.0.0, LibreOffice 5.2 RC1 and PulseAudio 9.0		Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751584656517128192	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	Fancy an Ubuntu-powered rival to Apple’s Siri?	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/m8jzjtLEie (error)	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://www.htxt.co.za/2016/07/08/ubuntu-rival-apple-siri/ )		Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751584807415648256	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	Star Cloud PCG03U is a compact Ubuntu PC for $90	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/a74jpJSHkU (liliputing.com)	Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Star Cloud PCG03U is a compact Ubuntu PC for $90 - Liliputing		Jul 08 21:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751584986617286656	Jul 08 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/B0CtTY1Lny (www.trustedreviews.com)	Jul 08 21:22
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.trustedreviews.com \| Use Linux or Tor? The NSA might just be tracking you		Jul 08 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751585018112307200	Jul 08 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	Use Linux or Tor? The NSA might just be tracking you	Jul 08 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/B0CtTY1Lny (www.trustedreviews.com)	Jul 08 21:22
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751587251952488448	Jul 08 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	Tux Machines Turns 12 https://t.co/lj8VHZ4Zxl	Jul 08 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 21:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tux Machines Turns 12 \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751587318356639744	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Tablet Review: Remarkably	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	Unsatisfying Review https://t.co/uDHt7fRw2N	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	(www.laptopmag.com)	Jul 08 21:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.laptopmag.com \| BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition - Full Review and Benchmarks		Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751587516805963776	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	World’s smallest quad-core SBC starts at $8	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/djhlMZ9W9S (hackerboards.com)	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com \| World’s smallest quad-core Linux SBC starts at $8		Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751587649215950848	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	Debian 8.5 vs. Debian Testing Benchmarks - July 2016	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WlVIQAWcco (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 08 21:28
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian 8.5 vs. Debian Testing Benchmarks - July 2016 - Phoronix		Jul 08 21:28
*TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'World’s smallest quad-core SBC starts at $8 https://t.co/djhlMZ9W9S'		Jul 08 21:28
*TweetTuxMachines @psema4 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'World’s smallest quad-core SBC starts at $8 https://t.co/djhlMZ9W9S'		Jul 08 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751589622753492992	Jul 08 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the Week 2016/27	Jul 08 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lRxChNY86g (dominique.leuenberger.net)	Jul 08 21:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net \| openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the Week 2016/27 @ Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)		Jul 08 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751590641948303361	Jul 08 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	New wine release https://t.co/8qrvba2XBc	Jul 08 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/naIbYgos1b	Jul 08 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/bpxxURu6cL	Jul 08 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.winehq.org) https://t.co/cFSG7kGoSh	Jul 08 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jul 08 21:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wine Development Release 1.9.14 Is Now Available \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 08 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Wine 1.9.14 Brings Better Shader Model 5 Support in Direct3D, GDI Improvements		Jul 08 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org \| WineHQ - News - Wine 1.9.14 Released		Jul 08 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 1.9.14 Still Working On Shader Model 5, D3D Command Stream - Phoronix		Jul 08 21:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751590954252001281	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	Barony, a 3D first-person roguelike goes open source	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MVO1WPe6T1 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751591226441363456	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	Mesa 12.0.0 3D Graphics Library Released with Vulkan	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for Intel Hardware https://t.co/p1q8PY9sGp	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 21:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751592246382854145	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	Radeon/AMDGPU Updates For The Linux 4.8 Kernel	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/svxCL7XZOr (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 08 21:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 504 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/barony-a-3d-first-person-roguelike-goes-open-source.7594 )		Jul 08 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mesa 12.0.0 3D Graphics Library Released with Vulkan Driver for Intel Hardware		Jul 08 21:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Radeon/AMDGPU Updates For The Linux 4.8 Kernel - Phoronix		Jul 08 21:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751592649094823936	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	Black Mesa developer shoots down anti-Linux troll,	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	confirms Linux version is in progress	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/75ouNBHrW0 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Black Mesa developer shoots down anti-Linux troll, confirms Linux version is in progress \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751592956675719169	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	Fossil Echo, a story-driven, short and challenging 2D	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	platformer confirmed for Linux, coming soon	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xVz7cFxhlP (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fossil Echo, a story-driven, short and challenging 2D platformer confirmed for Linux, coming soon \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751604020804984832	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	Video: hands-on with Android apps and the Play Store on	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	Chrome OS https://t.co/CZnU8OKiCk	Jul 08 22:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidpolice.com)	Jul 08 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com \| Video: hands-on with Android apps and the Play Store on Chrome OS		Jul 08 22:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751604531910287360	Jul 08 23:38
TweetTuxMachines	Haven Moon rises today on Windows, Mac, and Linux	Jul 08 23:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wCkvnrMAdF (www.adventuregamers.com)	Jul 08 23:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Haven Moon rises today on Windows, Mac, and Linux - AdventureGamers.com		Jul 08 23:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751610295659991040	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	Android Comes to Zebra's Enterprise Wrist-Mounted	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	Wearable Computer https://t.co/2k76EwWfh7 (www.eweek.com)	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Android Comes to Zebra's Enterprise Wrist-Mounted Wearable Computer		Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621603511771137	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/aA6CJVUIQa	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621604539412480	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/5MeAB1Hsow	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621605298573314	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Debian https://t.co/jrQj5wjc8S	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621606061903872	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines	Openwashing https://t.co/wBkmTS2WHn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 23:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Debian \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 23:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Openwashing \| Tux Machines		Jul 08 23:39
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DaemonFC	http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-comcast-data-cap-0710-biz-20160708-story.html	Jul 08 23:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com \| Comcast sets 1 terabyte data cap for Chicago-area internet customers - Chicago Tribune		Jul 08 23:55
DaemonFC	1 TB is pretty hard to get to. I average 200-250 GB a month and I consider myself a pretty heavy user.	Jul 08 23:55
DaemonFC	Of course, I save some data by blocking ads and tracking junk and other garbage in my web browser.	Jul 08 23:56
DaemonFC	Although I'm somewhat dismayed that I have to run a greasemonkey script as an ad blocker blocker blocker. :/	Jul 08 23:56
DaemonFC	More people block ads, so more sites try to block ad blockers.	Jul 08 23:56
cubexyz	oh noes! recursion	Jul 08 23:56
cubexyz	I heard some services stop running ads if you pay them money	Jul 08 23:59
cubexyz	I think even youtube has something... forget what it's called	Jul 09 00:00
cubexyz	youtube red I think	Jul 09 00:00
cubexyz	I don't mind _some_ ads.. I even run a few myself	Jul 09 00:11
cubexyz	no gambling, adult or microsoft ads though	Jul 09 00:11
DaemonFC	Comcast has said that users that near their bandwidth quota for the month will see "in-browser notifications", which I assume means "javascript injection attacks" on the user's browser.	Jul 09 00:24
DaemonFC	This has the potential to break secure websites and trigger a mixed content warning. Even worse, the script from Comcast could see everything you are doing with that page and it could cause security issues.	Jul 09 00:24
DaemonFC	cubexyz, Yeah, my ad blocker blocker blocker gets rid of the notification and lets you see the site.	Jul 09 00:25
DaemonFC	It tricks it into thinking that your ad blocker is off.	Jul 09 00:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621606766620673	Jul 09 01:16
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Software https://t.co/sU4TAzNh22	Jul 09 01:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 01:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 01:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Plasma 5.8 LTS Kickerd Off for Stability and...'		Jul 09 01:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CentOS Atomic Host Update Adds Docker 1.10.3, Built...'		Jul 09 01:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives Mesa 12.0.0, LibreOffice 5.2 RC1...'		Jul 09 01:16
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New wine release https://t.co/8qrvba2XBc https://t.co/naIbYgos1b https://t.co/bpxxURu6cL https://t.co/cFSG7kGoSh'		Jul 09 02:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mesa 12.0.0 3D Graphics Library Released with Vulkan...'		Jul 09 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wine Development Release 1.9.14 Is Now Available \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 09 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Wine 1.9.14 Brings Better Shader Model 5 Support in Direct3D, GDI Improvements		Jul 09 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org \| WineHQ - News - Wine 1.9.14 Released		Jul 09 02:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 1.9.14 Still Working On Shader Model 5, D3D Command Stream - Phoronix		Jul 09 02:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751672580361318401	Jul 09 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	Initial Open-Source GeForce GTX 1000 “Pascal” Nouveau	Jul 09 03:12
TweetTuxMachines	Driver Support https://t.co/CpZk1Glyvc (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 03:12
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Initial Open-Source GeForce GTX 1000 "Pascal" Nouveau Driver Support - Phoronix		Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751673889680420864	Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	The world is swimming in open source, but only one	Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	company is making any money https://t.co/i4o49J4yBl	Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The world is swimming in open source, but only one company is making any money - TechRepublic		Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675474619740160	Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	The world is swimming in open source, but only one	Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	company is making any money https://t.co/giIgvoGNdQ	Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 03:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The world is swimming in open source, but only one company is making any money \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 03:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675475974451200	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/mKCzprbiyy	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675476737814528	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	OSS in the Back End https://t.co/5Lt9eCw8Bh	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS in the Back End \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675473738932224	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	Linux at 25, Windows Alternatives, Tumbleweed Latest	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/92DiUAFwJP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 03:14
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 03:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux at 25, Windows Alternatives, Tumbleweed Latest \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 03:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751692184831729665	Jul 09 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	TeamViewer Alternatives for Linux https://t.co/KrpqqFFg3h	Jul 09 05:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 05:34
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 05:34
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*TweetTuxMachines @maxmeranda favourited 'Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of...'		Jul 09 08:05
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godo_	Hi, is here a place to ask a question about a post from Roy on EPO?	Jul 09 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751749037813067776	Jul 09 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	A classic MMO goes open source, The Other 99 comes to	Jul 09 08:37
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TweetTuxMachines	Qualcomm Told Google About The Android Encryption Flaw In	Jul 09 08:37
TweetTuxMachines	2014, So Why The Delay To Patch It?	Jul 09 08:37
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/nI8nLGGuMJ	Jul 09 08:39
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TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/lhxuOVEzA7	Jul 09 08:39
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TweetTuxMachines	Links 9/7/2016: Skype Hype, Wine 1.9.14	Jul 09 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/o6wJ9IocTo (techrights.org)	Jul 09 09:50
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TweetTuxMachines	The State Of Debian's Paid Long Term Support Project	Jul 09 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8BdQdDiCQ2 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 11:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751792546574131200	Jul 09 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	Have you seen Black Ice? A really rather cool hack and	Jul 09 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	shoot FPS with Linux & SteamOS support	Jul 09 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IWoGCk7TFj (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 09 11:00
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TweetTuxMachines	TeamViewer Alternatives for Linux https://t.co/FzUPPHXl91	Jul 09 11:24
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TweetTuxMachines	Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Released With New Features — A	Jul 09 11:25
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TweetTuxMachines	Trying The Radeon RX 480 & R9 Fury With The AMDGPU Code	Jul 09 11:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751799297159684096	Jul 09 11:46
TweetTuxMachines	What happened to Kate in Randa? https://t.co/jMeXODM3nn	Jul 09 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines	SketchUp running on Ubuntu 16.04 - Tutorial	Jul 09 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines	[Dolphin] Checksums made easy https://t.co/10J1v68d6a	Jul 09 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux debugging tools I love https://t.co/3elkn4n7p0	Jul 09 11:46
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TweetTuxMachines	What If Linux Users Made Movies! https://t.co/DXUqWNvWqU	Jul 09 12:12
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TweetTuxMachines	A checklist for Docker in the Enterprise	Jul 09 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RaHgMj9qai (zwischenzugs.wordpress.com)	Jul 09 12:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751811196102189056	Jul 09 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	FreeBSD 11.0 Reaches Beta https://t.co/TrQN3g56hr	Jul 09 12:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751811196957757440	Jul 09 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Released With New Features — A	Jul 09 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	Blazing Fast 16MB Linux Distro https://t.co/IGuDL3tBjL	Jul 09 13:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751811197888933888	Jul 09 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/TjdthyjY6o	Jul 09 13:26
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TweetTuxMachines	What If Linux Users Made Movies! https://t.co/qjzg9rz0ND	Jul 09 13:26
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/DnyvSnAS66	Jul 09 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/WO4fQAsl6H	Jul 09 13:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751829856715837440	Jul 09 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	NSA PRISM and Linux https://t.co/BWUDXyYVg3	Jul 09 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming and Graphics https://t.co/lNf9yCQSPi	Jul 09 13:35
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DaemonFC	https://www.thenation.com/article/orwell-in-puerto-rico-congress-promises-a-new-dictatorship/	Jul 09 14:16
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DaemonFC	This would never happen to a state.	Jul 09 14:16
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: colony	Jul 09 14:45
schestowitz	they use a euphemism, "territory"	Jul 09 14:45
schestowitz	and give them barely any rights	Jul 09 14:46
schestowitz	except maybe the right to acquire a credit card :/	Jul 09 14:46
DaemonFC	schestowitz, No way to avoid paying the debt unless they disconnect from the global banking system entirely.	Jul 09 14:48
DaemonFC	Then they should go ahead with their original debt restructuring plan and ignore Congress.	Jul 09 14:49
DaemonFC	At this point, it's hard to imagine their situation getting much worse.	Jul 09 14:49
DaemonFC	http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/07/04/hate-taxes-move-to-tax-free-puerto-rico-stay-american-avoid-irs/#6d418c7d38e2	Jul 09 15:29
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DaemonFC	Millionaires moving there for low taxes.	Jul 09 15:29
DaemonFC	The entire tax rate is only 4%.	Jul 09 15:30
DaemonFC	That would just barely cover the Illinois income tax.	Jul 09 15:30
DaemonFC	You'd still have your entire federal tax bill. The federal tax bracket for most people is 15%.	Jul 09 15:30
DaemonFC	Of course, regular working-class Americans wouldn't be able to move to Puerto Rico. There's really no job opportunities there.	Jul 09 15:31
DaemonFC	But the people who are already rich and don't need work can move there to evade their tax bill and keep their US citizenship.	Jul 09 15:31
DaemonFC	schestowitz, I thought about applying for citizenship in Canada once.	Jul 09 15:32
DaemonFC	A company that I worked for offered to move me to Toronto and get me a work visa, but Canadian citizenship is pretty tough to get.	Jul 09 15:32
DaemonFC	Unlike America, they actually have immigration laws that are enforced, to the letter.	Jul 09 15:33
DaemonFC	If you try to move there illegally, you won't be able to get a job or rent an apartment. Without a valid SIN number, employers and landlords there actually WILL call immigration on you.	Jul 09 15:33
DaemonFC	That's why there's only about 35,000 illegal immigrants in all of Canada, and most of them are in relatives basements.	Jul 09 15:33
DaemonFC	You can't get a job, rent an apartment, or open a bank account.	Jul 09 15:34
cubexyz	ok, the new Sony TVs have Android... at least some of them	Jul 09 15:34
DaemonFC	In the US all you have to do is hop the border and try to avoid encounters with the police.	Jul 09 15:34
DaemonFC	Crooked landlords and businessmen are everywhere.	Jul 09 15:34
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: i thought some of them might be android	Jul 09 15:35
DaemonFC	They'll process a fake Social Security number that belongs to someone else, and the federal government doesn't really look into it as long as the illegal immigrant is paying their taxes.	Jul 09 15:35
cubexyz	my streamer isn't even on the supported list	Jul 09 15:35
cubexyz	12,134 devices	Jul 09 15:35
DaemonFC	Social Security has this thing called a Suspension account where they put all of the money that they can't track back to a legitimate tax return.	Jul 09 15:35
DaemonFC	It has tens of billions of dollars in it at any given time. They use it to buy treasury bills, and earn interest. The interest goes into the Social Security trust fund immediately. The principal is taken after several years of not being able to track down who has paid it.	Jul 09 15:36
DaemonFC	So illegal immigrants are basically propping up Social Security. They're paying billions of dollars in taxes each year into a system they'll never draw benefits from.	Jul 09 15:37
DaemonFC	Social Security looks a lot more closely at BENEFIT PAYOUTS than it does money coming in. :)	Jul 09 15:37
cubexyz	the new paradigm will be: work 'till you drop :)	Jul 09 15:37
razielle_tzu	i thought was laredy happening	Jul 09 15:38
razielle_tzu	*already	Jul 09 15:38
DaemonFC	cubexyz, Yeah. They're "raising the retirement age" slowly enough that most people don't notice.	Jul 09 15:38
DaemonFC	My grandparents got full Social Security benefits at 65. My parents will have to wait until they're 66.5.	Jul 09 15:38
DaemonFC	I'll have to wait until I'm 67. My brother will have to be 68.	Jul 09 15:38
DaemonFC	Rich people who eat a steady diet of gourmet food and get all the medical care they need are living to be 100, so they use that to justify cutting benefits for janitors and bus drivers.	Jul 09 15:39
cubexyz	gourmet food isn't necessarily healthy...	Jul 09 15:39
DaemonFC	Most of the victims of Social Security are black people.	Jul 09 15:40
DaemonFC	Statistically, they die before they cost Social Security much/any money.	Jul 09 15:40
cubexyz	why is that?	Jul 09 15:41
DaemonFC	When you have them paying in their whole life and statistically they die at 69-70, and white people live to be 80-82....	Jul 09 15:41
DaemonFC	White people are on the system for 15-17 years. Blacks are on the system for 4-5.	Jul 09 15:41
DaemonFC	So Social Security takes money from poor black people and gives it to middle class white people.	Jul 09 15:42
DaemonFC	cubexyz, Whenever you have a pension system ran by the government, there's going to be problems.	Jul 09 15:44
DaemonFC	Thieving politicians can't help but be tempted to raid a pile of cash to spend immediately, putting in IOUs.	Jul 09 15:44
cubexyz	what's the alternative? Pensions run by private companies?	Jul 09 15:44
DaemonFC	The state of Illinois is one of the worst examples of this.	Jul 09 15:44
DaemonFC	The state literally has about a quarter in assets for every dollar in liabilities.	Jul 09 15:45
DaemonFC	cubexyz, I think they should switch to a defined benefit pension.	Jul 09 15:45
DaemonFC	Let workers decide what they want to do with their money.	Jul 09 15:45
DaemonFC	Most workers in America have to do this anyway, in addition to putting money into an insolvent government pension program.	Jul 09 15:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751865224064487424	Jul 09 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	All Fedora 24 Linux Flavors on a Single Live ISO Image Is	Jul 09 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	Now a Dream Come True https://t.co/WPv1Rs7eh5	Jul 09 15:47
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DaemonFC	We know that if nothing is done, Social Security's trust fund will run out of treasury bills in the year 2033, and it will only pay out about 76% of promised benefits, because it will only be able to spend the taxes it is collecting.	Jul 09 15:47
DaemonFC	Now, the average benefit per month is about $1,200, which is hard to live on even without a cut.	Jul 09 15:47
DaemonFC	After the cut, the average payment will be just $912 a month.	Jul 09 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751865224785825792	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	PCLinuxOS Xfce 64 2016.07 Community Edition Ships with	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Kernel 4.6.3 https://t.co/lANXvD0WZG	Jul 09 15:48
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DaemonFC	Out of that, you then have to pay your Medicare premiums.	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751865225565990912	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	HandyLinux Is a Great Toolbox for Linux Newbies	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/sbV3nMzk2a (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 15:48
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DaemonFC	Because you can't sign up for Social Security and refuse Medicare.	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751865226291621888	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Parrot Security OS 3.0 Ethical Hacking Distro Lands for	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi, Cubieboard https://t.co/y7FEQ6bs3n	Jul 09 15:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 15:48
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DaemonFC	So people who depend on Social Security will be living on about $790 a month.	Jul 09 15:48
DaemonFC	And it's unclear where you can do that.	Jul 09 15:48
DaemonFC	Probably not in the United States.	Jul 09 15:48
cubexyz	Iowa?	Jul 09 15:49
cubexyz	things seemed less expensive there	Jul 09 15:49
DaemonFC	Well, if you already own your home, then maybe.	Jul 09 15:49
DaemonFC	If you're paying on a mortgage/rent you're talking $500-600 a month just to stay in your home.	Jul 09 15:50
DaemonFC	And that doesn't include gas/electric.	Jul 09 15:50
DaemonFC	or food.	Jul 09 15:50
DaemonFC	So you need a private retirement account anyway.	Jul 09 15:50
DaemonFC	I told John to put 5% of his salary in the Thrift Savings Plan because it would be stupid not to.	Jul 09 15:51
DaemonFC	They match him 100% up to that amount, so not contributing 5% would be really dumb.	Jul 09 15:51
DaemonFC	Then once it's in there, you can choose what index funds to invest in.	Jul 09 15:51
DaemonFC	Some people just put it all into government bonds. They don't earn much, but it's considered a guaranteed thing.	Jul 09 15:52
DaemonFC	If you put 100% into the G fund, you're getting the same deal that Social Security gets.	Jul 09 15:52
DaemonFC	But it's in an individual account, not a government "social insurance" program, so it's still your money.	Jul 09 15:52
DaemonFC	The performance of the stock market funds has been so bad in the last year that the government bonds fund has outperformed it!	Jul 09 15:54
DaemonFC	The interest rate on US government bonds is at record lows right now.	Jul 09 15:56
DaemonFC	It can get away with barely paying any interest because the rest of the world is a bigger mess. Some countries are actually making you pay them to loan them your money. :)	Jul 09 15:56
DaemonFC	I have a feeling that there will be a massive correction in the stock market at some point. It's unprecedented that stocks are incredibly high while bonds are so low.	Jul 09 15:59
DaemonFC	people don't typically dive into the bond market unless they they don't see a better choice.	Jul 09 15:59
DaemonFC	Of course, the other explanation is that the bonds are low because the Federal Reserve and foreign investors are buying them as a way of keeping their money in a safe place while their own government is punishing them for buying domestic bonds.	Jul 09 16:00
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DaemonFC	I managed to avoid paying People's Gas and Electric for gas service. I had the landlord remove the gas stove and put a cap on the pipe, and then I bought a huge toaster oven and some hot plates from Walmart.	Jul 09 18:10
DaemonFC	It costs about $20 a month to have the gas on even if you don't do anything with it except keep the pilot light in your oven going.	Jul 09 18:11
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SebthreeBQM10HD	hi	Jul 09 19:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ping	Jul 09 19:14
razielle_tzu	'sup	Jul 09 19:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, h eh yeah you live on your computer pretty much	Jul 09 19:14
razielle_tzu	well yeah, research, talking to friends and reading fanfic	Jul 09 19:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, not much just wasted about an hour or so of my life again it seems, trying to find a girl onine on a site, which yeah doesn't really work most of the time	Jul 09 19:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, since most of the ones that come up on such sites uh!	Jul 09 19:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	they don't reply back to most messages	Jul 09 19:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	they don't message first as well	Jul 09 19:15
razielle_tzu	depending on the site they could be fake profiles generated by the admin to lure guys into the paid services the site offers	Jul 09 19:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	well one or two that are coming up at the moment I suspect may be fake profiles	Jul 09 19:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, that particular site isn't to bad, only ever met from that one	Jul 09 19:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	but it doesn't have that many from around here	Jul 09 19:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	so can take quite a while before someone decent enough from around here even signs up	Jul 09 19:16
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 19:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I do have paid featues on that site to actsuallly for about two years now	Jul 09 19:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	nice to see if messages have been read or not	Jul 09 19:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, on the popular site with much more from around here, that's all horrible anyway, my account got deleted by mistake or whatever, and I haven't signed back up, it's just to nasty really	Jul 09 19:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	all you get is rejectd and no first messages	Jul 09 19:17
razielle_tzu	i have one dating profile and sometimes get messaged first but it's a little different for lesbians	Jul 09 19:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, actually there's another site, it's more a friend making site than anything else really, but some use it as a sort of dating site as well	Jul 09 19:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, and guess what?	Jul 09 19:20
razielle_tzu	same deal there?	Jul 09 19:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it's full of lesbians, or I mean a lot seem to be on it	Jul 09 19:20
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 09 19:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yep for some reason that particular site seems popular with lesbians	Jul 09 19:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I have had a few guys looking at my profile on there to, messaging me even one or two I think it was, but yeah they were gay or something hmm	Jul 09 19:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it's a bit hmm though when you get some guy who's ike 10 years older	Jul 09 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	or so	Jul 09 19:22
razielle_tzu	a lot of guys don't read profiles, just look at a pic and go "yup, imma message them"	Jul 09 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I think I am not compatible with that many women/girls really	Jul 09 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	or enough	Jul 09 19:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	there interests are so difernet to mine etc	Jul 09 19:22
razielle_tzu	i'm on OKC so i only check out profiles and message back people with a 80% match rate or higher	Jul 09 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah just need a pretty enough pic up if a girl, and bound to get lots of messages from guys	Jul 09 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but guys rarely get messages first	Jul 09 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ok cupid you mean ?	Jul 09 19:23
razielle_tzu	yup	Jul 09 19:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yes that's the only site I have ever met from	Jul 09 19:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	and the one I was using again just now	Jul 09 19:24
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SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I probably look to much like a nerd/geek really in the photo I have up, in a way I should change that, but on the other hand I don't want all shallow and silly really, as a friend at least, maybe something else	Jul 09 19:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Plenty of fish is a nasty site, but as I said my account got deleted for some reason	Jul 09 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, they actually re funded me for paid features I didn't want to re new as well	Jul 09 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	which was good	Jul 09 19:25
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razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 09 19:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, and meet me is the one with lots of lesbians on it as well or so it seems, but that's a more friend making site as I was saying. also I think most of hte people on there are below 22 probably realy	Jul 09 19:26
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SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, there doesn't seem to be that many older ones, compared to young ones	Jul 09 19:26
razielle_tzu	it can happen	Jul 09 19:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, maybe my public speaking group will get in some girl who hmm	Jul 09 19:27
razielle_tzu	you spend way too much time thinking about girls	Jul 09 19:27
razielle_tzu	or so it would seem anyway	Jul 09 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ha ha not quite	Jul 09 19:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but I am going to still be someone who uhmmm ok pm me :D	Jul 09 19:28
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SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, uhmm had to re load thsi tabet et	Jul 09 19:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	some issue	Jul 09 19:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	pm me	Jul 09 19:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	again	Jul 09 19:46
razielle_tzu	ah	Jul 09 19:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	re boot I mean	Jul 09 19:46
cubexyz	how can you type on a tablet? It would drive me nuts	Jul 09 19:46
razielle_tzu	if i have to use a tablet i have a bluetooth keyboard i use for typing	Jul 09 19:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yes indeed and that's what I am doing :)	Jul 09 19:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, this Ubuntu tablet and the logitech k480	Jul 09 19:48
razielle_tzu	fair, sometimes the keyboard is a little too small so i jump on a netbook or my desktop	Jul 09 19:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I get qet quite fast last year though on the ipad air with the touch screen keyboard	Jul 09 19:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	I have anothe keyboard to	Jul 09 19:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	a lamented bluetooth keyboard a small cheap one	Jul 09 19:49
cubexyz	I think the mygica keyboards are wifi	Jul 09 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz what kind of keyboard is that?	Jul 09 19:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, this keyboard is like a proper dock thing, work station type thing	Jul 09 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	so it's great	Jul 09 19:54
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 09 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	cost about 30 pounds as well	Jul 09 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I am going to buy the white version as well	Jul 09 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	this is the black one	Jul 09 19:54
cubexyz	it's a 54x172x18 mm wifi keyboard	Jul 09 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, has a built in thing to put the tablet in	Jul 09 19:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	like a stand	Jul 09 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	and it can have three blueetooth devices connedcted to it at once	Jul 09 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	then use the dial to change between	Jul 09 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	only used with one so far though!	Jul 09 19:55
razielle_tzu	i'd still rather use a laptop or netbook if i can't use my desktop tbh	Jul 09 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	I like this	Jul 09 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	small ite waight	Jul 09 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	to move around the house	Jul 09 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	or to take out to the LUG pub for example even	Jul 09 19:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	altough the net book i HAVE IS quite light to, but that's got some hardware issues with it and such so it stays here now	Jul 09 19:56
razielle_tzu	my netbook is tiny and runs for hours	Jul 09 19:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	yes mine had god battery life to, but i had to replace battery in the end as wel hmm	Jul 09 19:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, most people use phones	Jul 09 19:57
cubexyz	maybe it's about half the length of a normal keyboard	Jul 09 19:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, smart phone is really popular in general now	Jul 09 19:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	more so than lap tops and desktops	Jul 09 19:58
cubexyz	but I'm using a normal keyboard now with x2x	Jul 09 19:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, lap tops and desktop computers are old skool now like cubexyz	Jul 09 19:58
razielle_tzu	maybe so SebthreeBQM10HD but i still prefer to use one of the more traditional computers	Jul 09 19:58
cubexyz	what do you think developers use?	Jul 09 19:58
cubexyz	not tablets	Jul 09 19:58
razielle_tzu	i know this one	Jul 09 19:58
razielle_tzu	it's the same as what i'm sat at	Jul 09 19:59
razielle_tzu	just better	Jul 09 19:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, they will use tablets and phones now as well	Jul 09 19:59
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 09 19:59
cubexyz	ok kruler is from the twilight zone	Jul 09 19:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	mobiel is becoming the thing!	Jul 09 19:59
razielle_tzu	for testing maybe	Jul 09 19:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	mobile devices	Jul 09 19:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	even desktop is going more like mobile in certain ways	Jul 09 19:59
razielle_tzu	dev work itself is still on a laptop or desktop	Jul 09 19:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	well Ubuntu will be	Jul 09 19:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	Ubuntu DEskotp will become much more like Ubuntu Touch	Jul 09 20:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	you can test unity 8 in the repos now and update via a ppa	Jul 09 20:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but it will be there from log in screen as an optoin in 16.10	Jul 09 20:00
razielle_tzu	cool, another reason to avoid it	Jul 09 20:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	eventualy Unity 8 will replace Unity 7	Jul 09 20:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	and if Ubuntu is running on normal computer, tablet or phone, or something else, well it will be all pretty much the same either way	Jul 09 20:00
razielle_tzu	i know canonical are trying to do what microsoft failed to do and good luck to them on that but i'm not gonna use it, same as i'm eventually (maybe in teh next few weeks) get rid of windows from my tower	Jul 09 20:01
cubexyz	oh oh oh the kruler is measure in pixels	Jul 09 20:01
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I think tablets are great, more so with blueetooth or o2g usb keyboard connected to them, and a mouse I guess to realy, but touch screen is fine	Jul 09 20:01
cubexyz	now I get it	Jul 09 20:01
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, well you could try React OS for a few Windows programs h eh h eh	Jul 09 20:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, seriosuly that's become more useable now for running Windows software than say a few years back or so	Jul 09 20:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	can get more stuff running	Jul 09 20:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	about as much as Wine I think	Jul 09 20:02
razielle_tzu	there are no windows programs i use aside from certain games that keep me running it	Jul 09 20:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	they share some code now as well	Jul 09 20:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	some of those games may work in reactos :D might might might yeah	Jul 09 20:03
razielle_tzu	i've almost made my peace with losing out on certain games for the time being	Jul 09 20:03
cubexyz	wine can run a lot of games	Jul 09 20:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	I have a interesting Android gaming tablet	Jul 09 20:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	so can emulate old games	Jul 09 20:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	for ps 1 and what not	Jul 09 20:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	play on that	Jul 09 20:03
razielle_tzu	it still struggles with the dawn of war series	Jul 09 20:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	and n64 and yeah	Jul 09 20:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	eventually I guess the current now modren game console games, will have nice emulaters to :d	Jul 09 20:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	however at that time	Jul 09 20:04
SebthreeBQM10HD	those emulaters may even be for well rather powerful future tablets and smart phones ;d	Jul 09 20:04
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, spending too much time trying to find a girl online, yes that's a wast of time indeed, but spending to much time gaming would also be!	Jul 09 20:05
razielle_tzu	if i knew the dawn of war games would work under wine i'd be installing linux right now... but i only own steam style copies and they're a bitch to get working	Jul 09 20:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, turns out you can get all those gaming working on BSD probably, there's this awesome not so known about emulater	Jul 09 20:06
SebthreeBQM10HD	shh Seb you were in the know, why tell razielle_tzu about that	Jul 09 20:06
razielle_tzu	i know there are decent emulators for BSD	Jul 09 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ok fail! I was trying to joke with you a bit	Jul 09 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I get the impression that not much runs on BSD really	Jul 09 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	desktop type stuff	Jul 09 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I don't know much about it	Jul 09 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	I do get hte impresison though that BSD is more for servers and such though	Jul 09 20:07
razielle_tzu	it's perfect for desktops too	Jul 09 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	is it?	Jul 09 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	I heard that you have to run FLash for example	Jul 09 20:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	in a Linux emulation thing	Jul 09 20:08
razielle_tzu	sure but that's no different to running jailed linux apps for security reasons	Jul 09 20:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	what you mean by that jailed linux apps?	Jul 09 20:08
razielle_tzu	you can run linux apps in a chroot environment or jail with no access to other files/systems	Jul 09 20:09
razielle_tzu	it's the same with BSD	Jul 09 20:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 09 20:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, wel why do most of the world etc	Jul 09 20:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean who know about this stuff	Jul 09 20:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	embrace Linux	Jul 09 20:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	and not BSD ?	Jul 09 20:09
cubexyz	that's just silly...	Jul 09 20:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	why is it that LInux is where it's at	Jul 09 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	and not BSD?	Jul 09 20:10
razielle_tzu	we're doing this again?	Jul 09 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	no seriosuly	Jul 09 20:10
cubexyz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_based_on_FreeBSD#Commercial_products	Jul 09 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	why	Jul 09 20:10
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SebthreeBQM10HD	why is BSD the like fourth one	Jul 09 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	1. Windows	Jul 09 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	2. Mac OS X	Jul 09 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	3. Linux distributions	Jul 09 20:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	4. BSD distributions	Jul 09 20:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	5. everything else	Jul 09 20:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	and that's for desktops and servers	Jul 09 20:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	mobile is a bit differnet	Jul 09 20:11
razielle_tzu	there are many reasons but the biggest is lack of public awareness through no advertising or corporate backers... as i explained before	Jul 09 20:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and again though with super computrs, I blive most of the most poewrful ones well actsaully al the most powerful ones run Linux I blive, altough I Read that one runs Windows as well	Jul 09 20:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, why did Redhat go Linux not BSD? Canonical isn't such a good example of what I mean, since Mark was a Debian dev	Jul 09 20:13
razielle_tzu	i don't know enough about Redhat to answer that	Jul 09 20:13
cubexyz	did you notice that OS X was based on BSD?	Jul 09 20:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	seems BSD is like well ok for those that want to use it	Jul 09 20:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	but tht most Linx users	Jul 09 20:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	myself included	Jul 09 20:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	don't really see what the advantages for us would be really to use BSD over Linux	Jul 09 20:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	since we don't know much about BSD	Jul 09 20:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	if anything as such really	Jul 09 20:14
razielle_tzu	yeah but most linux users end up stuck in their ways...	Jul 09 20:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, yes I heard something like that, but that was purely market share the thing above, and I am talking about market share here	Jul 09 20:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, also I guess the BSD lisence would allow them to base it on, and then make it closed source	Jul 09 20:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubezxy with GPL there would have been issues so	Jul 09 20:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	Linux is under GPL	Jul 09 20:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	and most of the main softwares that are used with a desktop linux distro I belive	Jul 09 20:16
cubexyz	anyways, once again: the tcp/ip stack, ifconfig, telnet, ftp, etc etc	Jul 09 20:16
cubexyz	those didn't appear from thin air	Jul 09 20:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, yes, but those are in Linux	Jul 09 20:16
razielle_tzu	they CAME FROM BSD	Jul 09 20:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, so someoen doesn't need to use BSD to use that stuff	Jul 09 20:16
razielle_tzu	without bsd they wouldn't exist	Jul 09 20:16
cubexyz	well DARPA too	Jul 09 20:17
cubexyz	someone needs a history lesson	Jul 09 20:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, so what advantage is there to use BSD over Linux, for a desktop os really, or even a server I guess	Jul 09 20:17
razielle_tzu	(again)	Jul 09 20:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	Lnux can do the same stuff ?	Jul 09 20:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	I remember a Canidan woman or whatever from the ubuntu channl I think it was, but she was like in her 50's I think as wll, but on IRC she said to me like, Linux is for Windows haters, and BSD is for Unix lovers	Jul 09 20:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	Canadian above	Jul 09 20:18
cubexyz	there's some truth to that	Jul 09 20:18
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 20:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	BSD is probably more well Unix like sure, since uhmm it is a unix :D	Jul 09 20:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	Linux distro's are Unix like	Jul 09 20:18
cubexyz	the old school Unixers still use PDP-11, often using emulators like simh	Jul 09 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	but for the average deskotp user	Jul 09 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	why use bsd? over linux really?	Jul 09 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	what advantage is there if any ?	Jul 09 20:19
cubexyz	depends on the hardware you have	Jul 09 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I guess without the lack of markting of BSD and with there being more for say Ubuntu, well there you go, they go for Ubuntu or mint even since what web is like etc	Jul 09 20:20
cubexyz	if you use Amiga, Vax, etc then it's not going to even run Linux (I think)	Jul 09 20:20
cubexyz	someone might have ported Linux to Vax, not sure about that	Jul 09 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	yep but I mean the averag pc or mac user	Jul 09 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	the average pc or mac user, probably would find there isnt really any advanage using bsd ovr linux, for computer basics, web browsing email, music, etc	Jul 09 20:21
cubexyz	the average joe blow is just going to run windows	Jul 09 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	wel the averageLInux user then :d	Jul 09 20:22
razielle_tzu	or a mac if they want to show off	Jul 09 20:22
cubexyz	so why do you run Linux and not windows?	Jul 09 20:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	I do use Windows sometimes iwth good enough reason	Jul 09 20:22
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Chromium OS for SBCs Project Needs Your Help...'		Jul 09 20:22
razielle_tzu	yeah but WHY?	Jul 09 20:22
cubexyz	:)	Jul 09 20:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	or if forced to use it if not my compuer maybe, but right not doing college anymore so	Jul 09 20:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I rarely use WIndows now	Jul 09 20:23
cubexyz	BSD is more elegant and the API is more stable	Jul 09 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	sometimes it's easier to do crain things	Jul 09 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	mayb you got some	Jul 09 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	propriary codc that's	Jul 09 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	well	Jul 09 20:23
cubexyz	ok, answered	Jul 09 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	propritary video format that well isn't so easy to get the codecs for	Jul 09 20:23
razielle_tzu	those still exist?	Jul 09 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	could just play in Windows or pretty much, so instead of messing around just use wINDOWS to quickly play the file	Jul 09 20:23
cubexyz	I use _everything_ FOSS	Jul 09 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah there are a few video formats that would caus some issue with Linux	Jul 09 20:24
cubexyz	that includes DMS, and a ton of other stuff	Jul 09 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, or may play but just video no sound, I remember havingsomething like that two years or so ago	Jul 09 20:24
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SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so I had my speech playing with LInux, bu without sound just image	Jul 09 20:24
cubexyz	why is McDonalds the most popular restaurant? because people are stupid	Jul 09 20:24
razielle_tzu	i've not encountered anything like that in years	Jul 09 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	also there are a few programs that may need Windows for really	Jul 09 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	driving thorey for example	Jul 09 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	later ones have DRM so	Jul 09 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	so wine won't really work	Jul 09 20:24
razielle_tzu	you can get taht all web based though	Jul 09 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	but there are good sites for that to sure	Jul 09 20:25
*SebthreeBQM10HD needs to sort that out!		Jul 09 20:25
*SebthreeBQM10HD has a littel brother who uhmm in just under two years will be 17, and then he will want to drive		Jul 09 20:25
*SebthreeBQM10HD should have taken the thorey more seriosuly in 2007 really when was having partical lessons as well, but no didn't, plus didn't want to use Windows, but set up in wine on a old pc, but then hardare issues uh		Jul 09 20:26
cubexyz	on the other hand, I can thing of a ton of reasons to NOT use windows	Jul 09 20:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubeyz I don't trust Windows	Jul 09 20:26
razielle_tzu	is prism one by any chance?	Jul 09 20:26
cubexyz	financial, philosophical, and practical reasons	Jul 09 20:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz it's very easy to get viruses and other malware	Jul 09 20:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	in WinDOWS	Jul 09 20:26
*TweetTuxMachines @IlangoRajaiyan favourited 'Chromium OS for SBCs Project Needs Your Help...'		Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751935194677084160	Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	Alienware do a pretty nice job of advertising their Steam	Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	Machine & SteamOS in this new video	Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4wRxqiHOTU (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Alienware do a pretty nice job of advertising their Steam Machine & SteamOS in this new video \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751935549515173888	Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	HandyLinux Is a Great Toolbox for Linux Newbies	Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4CqVm20VCN (www.linuxinsider.com)	Jul 09 20:27
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 20:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HandyLinux Is a Great Toolbox for Linux Newbies \| Reviews \| LinuxInsider		Jul 09 20:27
cubexyz	I'm not really here to advocate BSD though, although I think it is worth learning	Jul 09 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	in fact I think my Windows 10 install on my newer lap top tht not re installed yet, I think migh have something, since I got this program off the web in a kind of random site really	Jul 09 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz why do you prefer Linux then?	Jul 09 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	or uh maybe even FEdora Core 1 h eh	Jul 09 20:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	and Trinity, but nah I mean in genreal	Jul 09 20:28
cubexyz	I use anything with source code	Jul 09 20:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	LInux distros in general	Jul 09 20:28
cubexyz	Linux is just one example	Jul 09 20:28
razielle_tzu	so anything you can tweak and recompile to suit your needs?	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751935738728615937	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	PCLinuxOS Xfce 64 2016.07 Community Edition Ships with	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Kernel 4.6.3 https://t.co/nZ3viRTuM6	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| PCLinuxOS Xfce 64 2016.07 Community Edition Ships with Linux Kernel 4.6.3		Jul 09 20:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, do you want the source code for my razielle_tzu robot, to mak her even more awesome and even more like the real thing razielle_tzu she needs to be made more lesbian h eh, but there are various bugs when it comes to that :d	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751935933977624576	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	All Fedora 24 Linux Flavors on a Single Live ISO Image Is	Jul 09 20:29
cubexyz	IBM DMS, OS/360-MVT, Unixes, Minix, MenuetOS, Plan 9. Kolibri OS, Haiku for starters	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	Now a Dream Come True https://t.co/6STdjmeeOw	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| All Fedora 24 Linux Flavors on a Single Live ISO Image Is Now a Dream Come True		Jul 09 20:29
razielle_tzu	Haiku is good	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751936122083835904	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	Parrot Security OS 3.0 Ethical Hacking Distro Lands for	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi, Cubieboard https://t.co/IDwMUeQAh5	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 09 20:29
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 20:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Parrot Security OS 3.0 Ethical Hacking Distro Lands for Raspberry Pi, Cubieboard		Jul 09 20:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yes so I havehard, since a guy I know on IRC, I hink I did acsaully vm try it before actaully	Jul 09 20:29
cubexyz	some of the old amiga crowd were anti-MMU if you can believe it	Jul 09 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, also at FOSDEM hmm maybe there was a stand for it this year, or not	Jul 09 20:30
razielle_tzu	i can believe it cubexyz	Jul 09 20:30
cubexyz	SebthreeBQM10HD, I make money from Linux, how is that for a reason? :)	Jul 09 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz how ?	Jul 09 20:30
cubexyz	you like that one? :)	Jul 09 20:30
cubexyz	RHT stock, and contracts	Jul 09 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 09 20:31
razielle_tzu	support or dev?	Jul 09 20:31
cubexyz	both	Jul 09 20:31
cubexyz	whatever the customer wants	Jul 09 20:31
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 09 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	supootrt for what	Jul 09 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	and dev for what	Jul 09 20:31
razielle_tzu	the contracts that were mentioned are both support and dev contracts for linux	Jul 09 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	for companies ?	Jul 09 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	wht kind ?	Jul 09 20:32
cubexyz	openmotif applications, tutoring, installs, consulting and just general computer repair	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751936275972780032	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	Chromium OS for SBCs Project Needs Your Help to Continue	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	Full-Scale Work https://t.co/Q7zbsgwaIS	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(linux.softpedia.com)	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Chromium OS for SBCs Project Needs Your Help to Continue Full-Scale Work		Jul 09 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz you nerd you	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751936741485998080	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Frameworks 5.24 Released https://t.co/PRhOKhoWdA	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	(www.kde.org) https://t.co/BW70dcLnER (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/XOWmEvoPYa (news.softpedia.com)	Jul 09 20:32
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org \| KDE - Release of KDE Frameworks 5.24.0		Jul 09 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Frameworks 5.24 Released - Phoronix		Jul 09 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Frameworks 5.24.0 Released for KDE Plasma 5.7, Improves Many Breeze Icons		Jul 09 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE Freamworks 5.24.0 oh wow awesome with breee icons uh	Jul 09 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	no	Jul 09 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	I did try a KDE 5 version and wasn't so keen before	Jul 09 20:33
cubexyz	oh and archiving, I did quite a lot of that too	Jul 09 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	and thenew icons for my other distro	Jul 09 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	are going to be beeze type	Jul 09 20:33
razielle_tzu	i'd do dev work too if i could but i can't code sling	Jul 09 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	even for gnome and such hmm	Jul 09 20:33
cubexyz	bug fixes for majesty gold	Jul 09 20:34
razielle_tzu	i really should go back to learning C++ and the like	Jul 09 20:34
razielle_tzu	maybe some lua and help with the NAEV prokect	Jul 09 20:34
cubexyz	I used to sell amiga stuff even	Jul 09 20:35
razielle_tzu	anything i might know the name of?	Jul 09 20:36
cubexyz	all the 3rd party stuff, I was authorized by Commodore	Jul 09 20:37
cubexyz	not authorized rather	Jul 09 20:37
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 09 20:37
cubexyz	1990 to 1994	Jul 09 20:37
razielle_tzu	heh, i was 4-8 years old at that point xD	Jul 09 20:38
cubexyz	amiga died pretty quickly	Jul 09 20:39
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 20:39
razielle_tzu	tbh the amiga stuff is the main thing i remember about being a kid	Jul 09 20:40
razielle_tzu	everything else is a blur	Jul 09 20:40
*TweetTuxMachines @ningbojoe retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE Frameworks 5.24 Released https://t.co/PRhOKhoWdA https://t.co/BW70dcLnER https://t.co/XOWmEvoPYa'		Jul 09 20:40
*TweetTuxMachines @topadsapp favourited 'Alienware do a pretty nice job of advertising...'		Jul 09 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org \| KDE - Release of KDE Frameworks 5.24.0		Jul 09 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Frameworks 5.24 Released - Phoronix		Jul 09 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Frameworks 5.24.0 Released for KDE Plasma 5.7, Improves Many Breeze Icons		Jul 09 20:40
cubexyz	there was Battle Squadron for amiga, I sold that	Jul 09 20:41
cubexyz	blockout..	Jul 09 20:41
razielle_tzu	cool, i had four favourite games.. Cannon Fodder, Chaos Engine 2, Speedball 2 and Ports of Call	Jul 09 20:42
razielle_tzu	then there was octamed, real3d and moviesetter	Jul 09 20:43
cubexyz	trying to remember who made the 3rd party hardware, I've forgotten a lot	Jul 09 20:43
razielle_tzu	it was 20+ years ago, it's understandable	Jul 09 20:43
cubexyz	I remember I sold optical mice for amiga	Jul 09 20:44
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751939152468381696	Jul 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma – Ultimate Desktop Environment For Linux	Jul 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FNhJv4uT0v (www.linuxtechi.com)	Jul 09 20:44
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 20:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxtechi.com \| KDE Plasma - Ultimate Desktop Environment For Linux		Jul 09 20:44
*TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs retweeted @tuxmachines: 'KDE Plasma – Ultimate Desktop Environment For Linux...'		Jul 09 20:44
razielle_tzu	Speedball was the first CD game i had	Jul 09 20:45
cubexyz	oh I still play ummm, what's it called... King's Bounty for amiga	Jul 09 20:45
razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 09 20:45
cubexyz	sold some c64 hardware too	Jul 09 20:47
razielle_tzu	i don't remember if i've used one of those, i know my dad had one but the only computer like that i remember using is a ZX	Jul 09 20:48
razielle_tzu	i have used a dodgy emulator though, i say dodgy because it was buggy as hell	Jul 09 20:49
cubexyz	ah right, UK	Jul 09 20:49
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 20:49
cubexyz	amiga might have actually been bigger in UK/Europe	Jul 09 20:50
razielle_tzu	i know it was huge in australia	Jul 09 20:50
cubexyz	ugh, I remember driving to Toronto just to buy a C compiler for the amiga	Jul 09 20:51
cubexyz	I couldn't even get it locally	Jul 09 20:51
cubexyz	>$200	Jul 09 20:51
razielle_tzu	so long as it was for A500+, A600 or A1200 i could get anything... either legit or because someone had cracked and copied it	Jul 09 20:52
razielle_tzu	that held true until 1999	Jul 09 20:52
cubexyz	I'm surprised it lasted that long	Jul 09 20:53
razielle_tzu	the last couple of years were mostly using car boot sales to hunt for software	Jul 09 20:53
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/751941542848307200	Jul 09 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: #UNIX simplicity https://t.co/phgIUPQuTR #gnu #unix #linux v🐧a @schestowitz https://t.co/ueQvXlKqNb		Jul 09 20:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: #UNIX simplicity https://t.co/phgIUPQuTR #gnu #unix #linux v🐧a @schestowitz https://t.co/ueQvXlKqNb		Jul 09 20:53
cubexyz	no one left now, but crazy die-hards	Jul 09 20:54
razielle_tzu	so it would seem, kind of a shame tbh	Jul 09 20:54
cubexyz	a lot of the Amiga programmers ended up on Linux though	Jul 09 20:55
cubexyz	the Fish Disks was early FOSS after all	Jul 09 20:55
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 20:55
cubexyz	in the early 90s we sold Atari Lynx, Sega Genesis, Turbographx-16, amiga software/hardware, and windows 3.0 :)	Jul 09 20:59
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 09 20:59
cubexyz	and everyone copied msdos, I don't think I sold a single copy	Jul 09 20:59
razielle_tzu	heh	Jul 09 21:00
razielle_tzu	glad to see the tradition of that started way back	Jul 09 21:00
cubexyz	software duplication was a big problem in those days... of course it probably still is	Jul 09 21:01
razielle_tzu	it is	Jul 09 21:01
razielle_tzu	some would argue more so now just because of how much software is around and how hard it is to keep track of when it's copied	Jul 09 21:02
cubexyz	do they even sell shrink-wrapped boxes of software in stores now?	Jul 09 21:02
razielle_tzu	depends on the store, most put empty boxes out and have the disc behind the counter or in a store room	Jul 09 21:02
cubexyz	I've gotten so used to the FOSS way now	Jul 09 21:03
cubexyz	ah of course	Jul 09 21:03
razielle_tzu	i'm seriously debating getting rid of windows tomorrow (later today really now) but... no more WH40K RTS games...	Jul 09 21:04
cubexyz	there's Loki and LGP...	Jul 09 21:04
cubexyz	of course, they are really defunct now... nowadays it's all android games I think	Jul 09 21:04
cubexyz	LGP taught me a lot	Jul 09 21:05
razielle_tzu	i don't know, more studios are getting into steam/GOG releases now too and are happy to do a linux port at the same time	Jul 09 21:05
razielle_tzu	same with indie developers	Jul 09 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751940087508770818	Jul 09 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Gnome - Perfection asymptote	Jul 09 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NEnu7H4Rni (www.dedoimedo.com)	Jul 09 21:10
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com \| Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Gnome - Perfection asymptote		Jul 09 21:10
*TweetTuxMachines @fabiocs retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 Gnome - Perfection...'		Jul 09 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751946735182761990	Jul 09 21:10
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Frameworks 5.24.0 https://t.co/JjXeZI59t1	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Frameworks 5.24.0 \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751946735950241792	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Every country needs to follow Bulgaria’s lead in choosing	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	open source software for governance	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Vuxxa216KE (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Every country needs to follow Bulgaria’s lead in choosing open source software for governance \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751946736696893445	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma – Ultimate Desktop Environment For Linux	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/DbTkldlxlM (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 21:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 21:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Plasma – Ultimate Desktop Environment For Linux \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 21:11
cubexyz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66KEcZbMoh8&list=PLAC5A3F9787D1A28D	Jul 09 21:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mozart- Harpsichord Concerto No. 1 KV 107 i. Allegro - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pfmmt ]		Jul 09 21:17
razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 09 21:19
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cubexyz	yes, I've been looking for that :)	Jul 09 21:19
razielle_tzu	:)	Jul 09 21:20
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cubexyz	Scarlatti K.159 and K.450 was played in a Star Trek episode	Jul 09 21:22
razielle_tzu	fair, i wouldn't have heard that actullay happen, not a fan of star trek	Jul 09 21:22
cubexyz	ah a pity :)	Jul 09 21:23
razielle_tzu	i tried to watch TNG but couldn't get into it	Jul 09 21:23
cubexyz	well this would have been the original series	Jul 09 21:23
razielle_tzu	i think i've seen a few seconds while channel hopping at some point	Jul 09 21:23
razielle_tzu	xD	Jul 09 21:23
cubexyz	oh well, differ era	Jul 09 21:23
cubexyz	different	Jul 09 21:24
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 21:24
cubexyz	Mozart was 1756-1791 so I figured he did some work for the harpsichord	Jul 09 21:26
razielle_tzu	i know	Jul 09 21:26
razielle_tzu	tbh there are pieces he did for it that i prefer to his piano stuff	Jul 09 21:27
cubexyz	oh? like what?	Jul 09 21:27
razielle_tzu	that's where it gets tricky because i've not heard them for years and finding them is difficult without the name >.<	Jul 09 21:28
razielle_tzu	i forget a lot of things, which is why i prefer having local copies, properly tagged	Jul 09 21:28
cubexyz	not sure when the piano replaced the harpsichord really	Jul 09 21:28
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razielle_tzu	me neither	Jul 09 21:30
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cubexyz	approximately 1730 to 1820 says James Wei's rather pricey ebook	Jul 09 21:44
razielle_tzu	i thought it happened a little quicker than that for some reason	Jul 09 21:44
cubexyz	Bach criticized the piano!	Jul 09 21:45
cubexyz	unsuitable	Jul 09 21:45
razielle_tzu	a few times	Jul 09 21:45
cubexyz	well, maybe late 1700s	Jul 09 21:46
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cubexyz	I assume there were some stragglers	Jul 09 21:47
razielle_tzu	aren't there always?	Jul 09 21:47
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cubexyz	yeah me :)	Jul 09 21:47
razielle_tzu	:P	Jul 09 21:47
razielle_tzu	you? a straggler?	Jul 09 21:47
razielle_tzu	no	Jul 09 21:47
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razielle_tzu	maybe a historian or archivist ;)	Jul 09 21:49
cubexyz	I can prove that the harpsichord did linger on for a bit	Jul 09 21:50
cubexyz	well, actually I can't	Jul 09 21:51
cubexyz	I'm not sure if Beethoven played the harpsichord	Jul 09 21:51
razielle_tzu	me neither	Jul 09 21:52
cubexyz	I think he did compose some pieces for the harpsichord	Jul 09 21:52
razielle_tzu	yeah he did, just found them	Jul 09 21:52
razielle_tzu	also this is useful	Jul 09 21:54
razielle_tzu	http://www.sjsu.edu/beethoven/research/beethoven_and_harpsichord/	Jul 09 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sjsu.edu \| Beethoven and the Harpsichord \| Beethoven Center \| San Jose State University		Jul 09 21:54
cubexyz	well they should know :)	Jul 09 21:56
razielle_tzu	yup	Jul 09 21:56
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4s3cnj/lenovo_ideapad_510s_with_ubuntu_1404_lts/	Jul 09 22:12
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cubexyz	yes, it's important to record things, otherwise you forget stuff	Jul 09 22:31
cubexyz	my amiga 'recollections' is a good example	Jul 09 22:31
razielle_tzu	:)	Jul 09 22:31
cubexyz	10 years from now, some seb-like person is going to ask me again why I use BSD	Jul 09 22:32
razielle_tzu	seb is going to ask again in a few days	Jul 09 22:32
cubexyz	there's no corporate control in BSDland	Jul 09 22:34
cubexyz	so if you're worried about Red Hat or Canonical taking over, then BSD is a good choice	Jul 09 22:34
cubexyz	it's not a perfect choice so that's why I use Linux (older style) and BSD plus a bunch of other things	Jul 09 22:35
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 22:37
cubexyz	a lot of the KDE 3.5.X stuff did not work in later distros, but I know it worked in FC1	Jul 09 22:40
cubexyz	some of the KDE1 developers refused to continue working on KDE3	Jul 09 22:40
cubexyz	so I came up with a new idea...	Jul 09 22:41
cubexyz	I was going to build a lab of computers for every era of Unix/Linux that I was interested in	Jul 09 22:41
razielle_tzu	i'd still do that if i had space for it	Jul 09 22:41
cubexyz	I was worried programs could disappear or stop working, and that is exactly what happened	Jul 09 22:42
razielle_tzu	yeah and archiving isn't seen by a lot of people as being worthwhile... moreso if games are involved	Jul 09 22:43
cubexyz	they archive the binaries, but the development system? no	Jul 09 22:45
razielle_tzu	makes me glad people like 4am are around, he does the dev system too if he can while cracking apple II stuff for archiving	Jul 09 22:46
razielle_tzu	and he documents everything he does	Jul 09 22:46
cubexyz	I can't assemble my old 6502 code	Jul 09 22:49
cubexyz	I have printouts :)	Jul 09 22:50
razielle_tzu	:)	Jul 09 22:50
cubexyz	I kind of doubt this 4am person has source code, correct me if I'm wrong	Jul 09 22:50
razielle_tzu	i read the cracking he did of Gumball, seemed like he did have the source code from the disk in order to at least rewrite the bootloader to get rid of the copy protection stuff	Jul 09 22:51
razielle_tzu	it was all stored as nibbles though, which is the norm from what i understand	Jul 09 22:51
cubexyz	I was asked to recreate one of my c64 programs	Jul 09 22:53
cubexyz	no disk drives, no c64, no binaries...	Jul 09 22:54
cubexyz	just one video recording to VHS cassette :)	Jul 09 22:54
razielle_tzu	wow	Jul 09 22:56
cubexyz	I put the video on archive.org	Jul 09 22:57
cubexyz	so it would be a ton of work recreating it from printout	Jul 09 22:57
razielle_tzu	just a bit	Jul 09 22:58
cubexyz	it's hard to do some things on the 6502, I found it pretty limiting	Jul 09 23:09
razielle_tzu	i've heard others make similar comments	Jul 09 23:11
cubexyz	it took 40+ minutes to assemble a 64K program on the 1541	Jul 09 23:15
cubexyz	but the c64 cube program was 95% BASIC (compiled) and 5% assembly	Jul 09 23:15
cubexyz	so that one wasn't too bad	Jul 09 23:16
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 09 23:16
razielle_tzu	i remember spending some time recreating the zx's "20 Questions" game for shellDOS on my A500+... that was fun...	Jul 09 23:25
cubexyz	I only remember AmigaDOS 1.3	Jul 09 23:27
razielle_tzu	i think it was for workbench 3.1	Jul 09 23:27
cubexyz	ah	Jul 09 23:27
razielle_tzu	i also modded the kickstarter disk so instead of the disk insertion graphic it had a scrolling quotes screen with Monty Python and Red Dwarf quotes	Jul 09 23:28
razielle_tzu	that was a favourite mod of mine... adding silly things to loading screens	Jul 09 23:30
cubexyz	cd /	Jul 09 23:31
cubexyz	oops, running amigados on another screen :)	Jul 09 23:32
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 09 23:32
cubexyz	I remember polydraw	Jul 09 23:32
razielle_tzu	i want to set icaros up and use the amiga emulation it offers to mess with things now... but i really should go sleep	Jul 09 23:33
cubexyz	ok, sure...	Jul 09 23:33
cubexyz	must be quite late over there by now	Jul 09 23:34
razielle_tzu	it's just gone half past four here	Jul 09 23:34
razielle_tzu	so yeah... night cubexyz, it's been fun as always :)	Jul 09 23:37
cubexyz	nite :)	Jul 09 23:37
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DaemonFC	I would hope that Spotify files a lawsuit against Apple.	Jul 03 02:17
razielle_tzu	that would be cool	Jul 03 02:17
DaemonFC	If Apple is really abusing their app store monopoly to keep Spotify out because they don't want to compete with it, then that's illegal.	Jul 03 02:17
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 03 02:17
MinceR	it would also be cool if companies abused by crApple made an alliance and started promoting android	Jul 03 02:18
MinceR	to their customers	Jul 03 02:18
DaemonFC	But Apple has a record of locking competitors and software they don't want out of the app store and then being pedantic about "Oh, well, this is a problem!" and then you fix that, and "Oh, that's a problem too." so you fix that, and on and on it goes, for months.	Jul 03 02:18
DaemonFC	Usually the victim just gives up and stops trying to publish their app.	Jul 03 02:18
razielle_tzu	so i've seen	Jul 03 02:18
DaemonFC	Each time they reject it, you have to fix the problem they told you about and submit the app again, and it takes 2-3 weeks for them to review it and point out the next problem.	Jul 03 02:19
DaemonFC	So they can stall you out for 6 months by pointing out 7-8 bugs in your app one at a time.	Jul 03 02:19
razielle_tzu	i know a few am-devs that gave up on devving for the apple store after the third submission	Jul 03 02:19
DaemonFC	Meanwhile, their own software has thousands of bugs and they don't seem to be in any hurry to do much about that.	Jul 03 02:19
razielle_tzu	they don't feel the need on rushing because they think most users won't go elsewhere	Jul 03 02:20
DaemonFC	Not an honest company. It's so much easier to get your app published in the Google Play or Microsoft stores.	Jul 03 02:20
DaemonFC	Cheaper too.	Jul 03 02:20
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 03 02:20
DaemonFC	Hmm, those guys are still working on the exterior of our building.	Jul 03 02:21
razielle_tzu	and heaven forbid you try to publish on both google and apple	Jul 03 02:21
DaemonFC	They speak Spanish so I'm assuming that they hired day laborers. Probably not in the country legally, but damn they are hard workers.	Jul 03 02:21
DaemonFC	10-12 hour days, on weekends too!	Jul 03 02:22
cubexyz	yes but aren't all those apps or whatever closed source?	Jul 03 02:22
DaemonFC	They usually are.	Jul 03 02:22
DaemonFC	You can have open source software in the app store as long as it doesn't require Apple to provide any source code to the person who gets it.	Jul 03 02:23
DaemonFC	That's what got VLC thrown out.	Jul 03 02:23
DaemonFC	And even if you did get the source code, there'd be no way of running your modified version of the app because the iPhone enforces Apple's package signature requirement.	Jul 03 02:24
razielle_tzu	i try to use f-droid for stuff but there's some stuff that isn't updated anywhere but the google store	Jul 03 02:24
cubexyz	so it's basically a regression back to 1980s software	Jul 03 02:24
cubexyz	closed firmware, closed apps, closed everything	Jul 03 02:24
DaemonFC	Android and Windows Phone both let you run unsigned apps.	Jul 03 02:25
DaemonFC	Not by default, but they each have a toggle switch that lets you do it after a mandatory "At your own risk. You could get malware." warning.	Jul 03 02:25
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 03 02:25
cubexyz	well, except for busybox of course	Jul 03 02:25
cubexyz	I suppose the open source stuff would just be free as in beer to download	Jul 03 02:26
DaemonFC	No, you can modify and compile and run it on Windows Phone and Android.	Jul 03 02:28
DaemonFC	You just have to enable apps from outside their store.	Jul 03 02:29
DaemonFC	But you need to be careful about that. 90-95% of the total malware for Android that ends up on peoples phones got there from an app that was from outside the store.	Jul 03 02:29
DaemonFC	So, you definitely want to favor the store unless you trust the app.	Jul 03 02:29
MinceR	at least in the 1980s they didn't abuse cryptography in an attempt to lock you out of your own computers	Jul 03 02:31
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 03 02:32
cubexyz	kindle? Ipad?	Jul 03 02:35
cubexyz	deleting files remotely? :)	Jul 03 02:36
cubexyz	what computer(s) would lock you out?	Jul 03 02:37
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/02Fukj6.gif	Jul 03 02:48
cubexyz	that widget style looks vaguely familiar	Jul 03 02:56
MinceR	:)	Jul 03 02:57
MinceR	it's late pre-X macos, isn't it?	Jul 03 02:57
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cubexyz	I thought it looked like Sunview actually	Jul 03 02:58
cubexyz	but you're probably right	Jul 03 02:59
MinceR	in other words, the best macos ever looked	Jul 03 02:59
oiaohm	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_8#/media/File:MacOS81_screenshot.png	Jul 03 03:06
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oiaohm	MinceR: look at that one	Jul 03 03:06
MinceR	indeed	Jul 03 03:07
cubexyz	I'm surprised you thought any macos was good	Jul 03 03:07
oiaohm	Its Mac OS 8 or 9	Jul 03 03:08
MinceR	i don't think it's good, i'm only saying it's the one that looked the best	Jul 03 03:08
oiaohm	Mac OS 7 has a different interface design.	Jul 03 03:08
MinceR	the period between melt-your-eyes-white and puddles-of-blue-ink-on-ruled-paper	Jul 03 03:08
MinceR	(also cryptic window operation buttons for the latter)	Jul 03 03:09
oiaohm	The give away http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/full/macos70.png is the change windows size bit in conner.	Jul 03 03:10
cubexyz	it's got a late 90s look at any rate	Jul 03 03:10
cubexyz	IE 4.0 etc	Jul 03 03:10
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MinceR	i didn't notice 7.0 being different from earlier versions before	Jul 03 03:11
oiaohm	The three lines for windows resize in conner is Mac OS 8 or 9 with that style of title bar its the only thing it could be.	Jul 03 03:11
oiaohm	MinceR: it minor.	Jul 03 03:11
oiaohm	Its the windows resize thing that is the gui clue.	Jul 03 03:12
cubexyz	think about how much control you have on Linux/BSD then compare that to macos	Jul 03 03:12
oiaohm	It really shows I use to service Apple machines in the 1990s does it not.	Jul 03 03:13
MinceR	:>	Jul 03 03:13
MinceR	and think about how red hat is plotting to take all that control away	Jul 03 03:13
oiaohm	Really redhat does not use CLA or items like that. Ubuntu is still a larger worry.	Jul 03 03:14
cubexyz	I used _old_ redhat/fedora	Jul 03 03:14
MinceR	redhat merely uses systemd and a thicket of dependencies on it	Jul 03 03:15
MinceR	which they will attempt to grow, no doubt	Jul 03 03:15
MinceR	canonical just does whatever redhat makes them do via debian	Jul 03 03:15
oiaohm	Now if Ubuntu did not have CLA on upstart there would most likely not be the systemd mess now.	Jul 03 03:15
MinceR	and of course now both rh and canonical are licking m$'s boots	Jul 03 03:16
oiaohm	Redhat has had many different deals over the years with Microsoft most cases ending up back stabing Microsoft.	Jul 03 03:16
oiaohm	Canonical does not have that history so is a little more of a worry.	Jul 03 03:16
MinceR	i suspect m$ will end up backstabbing rh via uefi	Jul 03 03:17
oiaohm	To be correct Microsoft first attempt to stab Rh and others with UEFI	Jul 03 03:17
oiaohm	Then with redhat force we got means to change platform key.	Jul 03 03:17
cubexyz	but the android media streamers/tablets don't use UEFI right?	Jul 03 03:18
oiaohm	The idea Microsoft wanted is platform key of UEFI would be locked in rom for good.	Jul 03 03:18
MinceR	on arm, they probably use other means to lock the device down	Jul 03 03:18
MinceR	though usually you can unlock them	Jul 03 03:18
MinceR	often by signing away warranties	Jul 03 03:18
oiaohm	Arm already has a stock of lockdown methods.	Jul 03 03:18
oiaohm	Right down to only loading signed firmware.	Jul 03 03:18
cubexyz	ok, so what should I buy to get android + open firmware?	Jul 03 03:19
oiaohm	Basically arm makers had already done what intel is doing now where the firmware unsigned would not load.	Jul 03 03:19
oiaohm	Due to fused bits.	Jul 03 03:19
oiaohm	and due to repair problems arm makers have been moving away from it.	Jul 03 03:20
cubexyz	wasn't there something called Replicant?	Jul 03 03:20
oiaohm	Really FSF when it comes to this stuff is idiots.	Jul 03 03:20
razielle_tzu	yeah they are	Jul 03 03:21
oiaohm	Yes http://www.replicant.us/ exists.	Jul 03 03:21
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oiaohm	Yes it makes the same mistakes as libreboot	Jul 03 03:21
MinceR	and it has problems on most devices, if it can be booted at all	Jul 03 03:22
MinceR	even nexus devices started relying on nonfree drivers a long time ago, iirc	Jul 03 03:22
oiaohm	If a bit of hardware that takes firmware uploading still works without uploading firmware you can bet the bugger has a default firmware you cannot see that might be security flawed.	Jul 03 03:22
oiaohm	MinceR: define non free.	Jul 03 03:22
MinceR	see the Free Software Definition	Jul 03 03:22
MinceR	https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html	Jul 03 03:23
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oiaohm	Some define non free as not being able to see the source code of the firmware. Some define it as not being able to change the firmware.	Jul 03 03:23
oiaohm	Of course FSF takes the most strict.	Jul 03 03:23
oiaohm	Now this is a big problem.	Jul 03 03:23
oiaohm	Due to legal requirement on hardware vendor might not be allowed by law in lots of places to allow you to alter particular firmware.	Jul 03 03:24
oiaohm	Of course that does not mean it has to be a black box.	Jul 03 03:24
oiaohm	Hardware is hard.	Jul 03 03:25
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oiaohm	Legal requirements on hardware is a pain in ass.	Jul 03 03:25
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cubexyz	I found some nice source code for an opengl analog clock	Jul 03 03:27
oiaohm	MinceR: the reality of the legal world we don't have the legal right to modify everything without having special permissions. Like its illegal for a unlicensed person to broadcast on lots of radio freqs and it a lot of places it illegal to sell gear that direct allows people todo that.	Jul 03 03:27
cubexyz	it works just like some real analog clocks with smoothly moving second and minute hands	Jul 03 03:27
oiaohm	One of the stupid examples that was found by modifying harddrive firmware a guy was able to make a one directional GSM phone call.	Jul 03 03:28
oiaohm	So there is a lot of hardware in computers incorrectly configured could cause major radio nightmares.	Jul 03 03:29
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oiaohm	MinceR: my problem is with FSF defines on hardware is how to be safe with radio in particular when you wake up how much when controlled incorrectly can transmit. Of course I absolutely don't agree that the firmware should be a black box we should be able to see the source code and build the source code and check that the signed binary matches it so we can trust it.	Jul 03 03:32
MinceR	yeah, legal requirements mandating our computers to be crippled are a bummer	Jul 03 03:33
MinceR	until that is fixed, we could have neatly isolated hw components doing that part of the work	Jul 03 03:33
oiaohm	MinceR: we have DOS attacks against electronic networks now if that is done against critical radio networks that could cause a major disaster.	Jul 03 03:33
MinceR	with well documented interfaces	Jul 03 03:33
MinceR	and free software drivers	Jul 03 03:33
MinceR	yeah, i know, there's always an excuse for taking our rights away	Jul 03 03:34
MinceR	it's one of the first things they come up with	Jul 03 03:34
MinceR	and typically all these lockdowns can't even prevent the sorts of abuses you're talking about	Jul 03 03:34
oiaohm	There have been examples of it happening due to defective products produced.	Jul 03 03:34
MinceR	yeah, let's punish the customers for defective products	Jul 03 03:35
oiaohm	black box allows defective products out there that have caused the nightmare before.	Jul 03 03:35
oiaohm	So we need a balance point.	Jul 03 03:35
MinceR	it would be unthinkable for the oligarchs to get the whip every once in a while	Jul 03 03:35
MinceR	there's no balance here	Jul 03 03:35
oiaohm	There kinda is source code with reproducable build for all firmware.	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	there's only a seemingly unstoppable march into a dark future, a new dark age	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	where we're all slaves and we all worship ignorance	Jul 03 03:36
oiaohm	So you can inspect if firmware has any hidden evil.	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	and if you find it, what then?	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	you're not allowed to fix it	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	you'll just be forced to accept that you've been given malevolent hardware	Jul 03 03:37
oiaohm	If the firmware has hidden evil you have to suppect the silicon is also sus.	Jul 03 03:37
oiaohm	So its don't use that vendor.	Jul 03 03:37
MinceR	implying any of the vendors do differently	Jul 03 03:37
MinceR	implying there _is_ another vendor	Jul 03 03:38
oiaohm	There are 40+ CPU vendors.	Jul 03 03:38
MinceR	in a world where microsoft, and the Token Designated Competition, apple, has government-appointed control over all of IT	Jul 03 03:38
oiaohm	Linux in governments is getting more of a foot hold all the time.	Jul 03 03:39
MinceR	"Linux" has no money to spend on bribes	Jul 03 03:39
MinceR	and it shows	Jul 03 03:39
MinceR	our pc-s come locked into windows, with arcane trickery necessary to liberate them	Jul 03 03:39
razielle_tzu	it really does	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	what's worse, they're actually locked into Backdoors10, which is malware	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	but apparently nobody gives a fuck anymore	Jul 03 03:40
oiaohm	True but being hacked and having the fact you have taken bribes being published is a political sides nightmare.	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	crApple made locked-down, backdoored, closed platforms acceptab	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	le	Jul 03 03:40
cubexyz	some of us are running coreboot on old computers	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	m$ made malware acceptable	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	people happily pay for m$ and crApple zombie computers and even pay the power and internet bills	Jul 03 03:41
MinceR	bring on the asteroid, it's time to start over again	Jul 03 03:43
oiaohm	MinceR: you want see stupidty. http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-wanted-hillary-clinton-to-use-this-secure-windows-phone/	Jul 03 03:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NSA wanted Hillary Clinton to use this secure Windows phone \| ZDNet		Jul 03 03:43
MinceR	i don't really want to see stupidity, but nowadays there's just nowhere to look to not see it	Jul 03 03:43
MinceR	well, at least it isn't winblows phony	Jul 03 03:44
oiaohm	MinceR: look again its Windows CE.	Jul 03 03:44
MinceR	yeah, winblows mobile	Jul 03 03:44
cubexyz	I bet she didn't trust the NSA :)	Jul 03 03:44
DaemonFC	http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-prepares-one-final-full-screen-get-windows-10-nag/	Jul 03 03:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft prepares one final, full-screen Get Windows 10 nag \| ZDNet		Jul 03 03:44
MinceR	at least that was a smartphone OS, with multitasking and clipboard	Jul 03 03:44
cubexyz	hence using her own server	Jul 03 03:45
DaemonFC	Microsoft is altering the Windows 10 Upgrade nag screen.	Jul 03 03:45
oiaohm	Discontinued OS no longer getting any updates.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	unlike the garbage they replaced it with	Jul 03 03:45
oiaohm	MinceR: with known security flaws.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	duh	Jul 03 03:45
oiaohm	MinceR: in otherwords hackable.	Jul 03 03:45
DaemonFC	It's going to be full screen and it will have a huge warning that it won't be free after July 29th.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	it has the warning sign for severe security flaws right on the ui	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	a windows logo.	Jul 03 03:45
DaemonFC	I figured they would do something like this. Get people panicked. Thinking it's an urgent upgrade.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	"hackable" would actually be a good thing	Jul 03 03:45
DaemonFC	Well, it is, for gamers anyway.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	of course most "journalists" today have no idea what "hack" means	Jul 03 03:46
DaemonFC	As usual, they held the latest DirectX upgrade hostage.	Jul 03 03:46
DaemonFC	Get Windows 10 or not DirectX upgrade.	Jul 03 03:46
MinceR	get Devuan and you'll have SDL and OpenGL.	Jul 03 03:46
cubexyz	herding the sheeple onto Windows 10! :)	Jul 03 03:46
oiaohm	DaemonFC: there are a lot of clues windows 10 is going to change to subscription model.	Jul 03 03:46
DaemonFC	Eventually games will have a DX 12 mode that's faster and with better graphics, or it'll be DX 12 only.	Jul 03 03:46
oiaohm	So Microsoft needs as many as possible to change to be trapped.	Jul 03 03:46
MinceR	better pay every month so you get to use the "computer" you "bought"!	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	Hmm, sounds unethical.	Jul 03 03:47
MinceR	it would be a shame if something happened to your data	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	Someone should sue them if they do that.	Jul 03 03:47
MinceR	but it couldn't have been anything important if you trusted a m$ product with them, right?	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	I don't think that the model will change much.	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	The base OS will be "free" but extras won't be.	Jul 03 03:47
MinceR	i wonder if the ruins of the "justice" "system" will do anything if someone attempts to sue m$	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	They're doing ads on the lock screen now.	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	enraged masses could of course still hang the board of directors	Jul 03 03:48
razielle_tzu	it seems unlikely that anyone will do anything if that's how m$ plays it	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	but that won't happen	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	people love their malware	Jul 03 03:48
DaemonFC	MinceR, They almost did during the 90s, but the Supreme Court reversed it.	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	and they can hardly wait to be enslaved	Jul 03 03:48
DaemonFC	Microsoft was going to be split up into several companies like the government did with AT&T in the 80s.	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	it should have been split into atoms	Jul 03 03:48
oiaohm	I like this term 'The Supported Lifetime of Your Device' Devices means as long as your motherboard lasts.	Jul 03 03:49
oiaohm	From Microsoft.	Jul 03 03:49
cubexyz	well, motherboards can last a long time	Jul 03 03:49
DaemonFC	Well, if you look at the roadmap, you get several years of support.	Jul 03 03:49
oiaohm	cubexyz: or less than 3 months if you get a dud.	Jul 03 03:49
MinceR	they weren't exactly concrete about what qualifies as a new computer, actually	Jul 03 03:49
DaemonFC	It says "Windows 10 as released in 2015" or something.	Jul 03 03:49
DaemonFC	I think they're going to support the Anniversary Upgrade longer	Jul 03 03:50
MinceR	if you let m$ have control, expect to be screwed hard	Jul 03 03:50
oiaohm	cubexyz: if a motherboard last longer than 3 months it normally good for 7 to 8 years without issues.	Jul 03 03:50
DaemonFC	Having people using several versions of Windows has been a disaster.	Jul 03 03:50
MinceR	>having people using windows has been a disaster	Jul 03 03:50
MinceR	FTFY	Jul 03 03:50
DaemonFC	They need to get more people using the same version or else developers will see the oldest one that still has a large userbase as their development target.	Jul 03 03:50
oiaohm	MinceR: Microsoft has become strict on windows 10.	Jul 03 03:51
oiaohm	MinceR: it defined as the motherboard id.	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	oh, i'm sure	Jul 03 03:51
DaemonFC	We saw where that went. Windows XP was the development target forever and DirectX 9 was the target for games.	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	it's not like they ever lied to anybody	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/hardware-changes-post-windows-10-upgrade/24ccc0d2-c2e0-4762-80b5-12c9350a694c?auth=1	Jul 03 03:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-answers.microsoft.com \| Hardware Changes Post Windows 10 upgrade - Microsoft Community [ http://ur1.ca/ndhr9 ]		Jul 03 03:51
DaemonFC	A few had DX 10/11 modes, but they had to support obsolete APIs or else half of Windows users couldn't buy the software, which would put the developer out of business.	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	note that the m$ employees have no idea either	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	hm, apparently they eventually got what looks like a straight answer	Jul 03 03:52
DaemonFC	MinceR, The stated policy and what they do are two different things.	Jul 03 03:53
MinceR	indeed	Jul 03 03:53
MinceR	i wonder who exactly elected microsoft to be trusted with all this power	Jul 03 03:53
DaemonFC	When my motherboard failed and I needed to reactivate Windows, I called Microsoft and they said don't worry about it and gave me a new product activation code.	Jul 03 03:53
MinceR	i don't seem to remember any election or referendum on the matter	Jul 03 03:53
oiaohm	This case Microsoft has long last stop doing mix of id across the system to work out if the machine has changed.	Jul 03 03:53
DaemonFC	Even though the EULA says it's tied to the motherboard.	Jul 03 03:53
DaemonFC	OEM anyway	Jul 03 03:53
oiaohm	Windows 10 is cleaner on activation as it just tied to motherboard.	Jul 03 03:53
oiaohm	DaemonFC: there is no difference between OEM and Retail with windows 10	Jul 03 03:54
DaemonFC	Yeah, Windows 10 is much less restrictive.	Jul 03 03:54
oiaohm	Not really.	Jul 03 03:54
DaemonFC	XP/Vista/7 would look at several components.	Jul 03 03:54
DaemonFC	If you made too many changes, then it would deactivate itself.	Jul 03 03:54
oiaohm	Windows 8.1 and before retail you could change the motherboard as much as you liked as it was a active copy license not hardware bound.	Jul 03 03:54
DaemonFC	Like, you upgrade the RAM, then you put in a new hard drive, and bam, you're unactivated again.	Jul 03 03:55
cubexyz	what if you changed your motherboard's firmware? What would happen then?	Jul 03 03:55
oiaohm	Basically Microsoft just nuked the active copy license.	Jul 03 03:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: if changing the motherboard firmware happens to change the motherboards id your screwed.	Jul 03 03:55
DaemonFC	oiaohm, That hasn't been the case in my experience.	Jul 03 03:55
DaemonFC	And you shouldn't be updating the motherboard firmware unless you have to.	Jul 03 03:56
oiaohm	DaemonFC: normally changing firmware motherboards id does not change is correct. A few cases putting on particular boards coreboot and other things you can set the motherboard id to what ever you want.	Jul 03 03:56
DaemonFC	Like you get a new CPU and it doesn't support it, but the firmware is included in an update.	Jul 03 03:56
MinceR	i wonder what sort of brain damage causes nsa people to look for a windows-based "solution" to a security problem	Jul 03 03:57
MinceR	i can sort of see why they try to destroy IT security for their own citizens and for people all around the world	Jul 03 03:57
MinceR	but for their own presidential staff?	Jul 03 03:57
oiaohm	MinceR: a non maintained Windows solution as a security solution. Not just a windows based solution.	Jul 03 03:57
razielle_tzu	they assume people can't use anything else?	Jul 03 03:57
oiaohm	MinceR: yes you have to wonder what kind of brain dead is in the NSA.	Jul 03 03:57
MinceR	they haven't heard of training courses?	Jul 03 03:57
DaemonFC	I keep a hosts file loaded that blocks out ads and malicious sites.	Jul 03 03:58
DaemonFC	Then I do the same thing with Adblock Plus in Firefox.	Jul 03 03:58
MinceR	i can see the reasoning behind trying to collect all the data in the world to try and do insider trading	Jul 03 03:58
oiaohm	DaemonFC: the stupid part I have a few boards without a motherboard ID at all.	Jul 03 03:58
DaemonFC	And then I loaded Anti-Adblock killer to stop sites from blocking me if they detect Adblock.	Jul 03 03:58
oiaohm	DaemonFC: I really wonder what windows 10 would do if I moved it between them.	Jul 03 03:58
MinceR	but i can't possibly see what profit the nsa might hope to gain from compromising IT security for their own government	Jul 03 03:58
MinceR	perhaps they want to break in and control them that way, but it seems unnecessary	Jul 03 03:59
DaemonFC	So I don't get too many interruptions in my browsing.	Jul 03 03:59
DaemonFC	Saves bandwidth too.	Jul 03 03:59
MinceR	oiaohm: you would discover that it's not only motherboard ID after all. :>	Jul 03 03:59
MinceR	or you'd find exciting new bugs	Jul 03 04:00
MinceR	or both	Jul 03 04:00
oiaohm	MinceR: or it would magically work.	Jul 03 04:00
MinceR	unlikely	Jul 03 04:00
MinceR	they don't seem to settle for things working if you get lucky, they try to break everything they touch	Jul 03 04:00
oiaohm	I would not say unlikely. I do know with windows 8.1 last patch these boards you can move the drive between them without any activation triggers.	Jul 03 04:01
MinceR	:)	Jul 03 04:01
cubexyz	the motherboard ID is in the bios? Shouldn't be a problem	Jul 03 04:01
oiaohm	MinceR: by the way 1 board is intel 1 board in amd and 1 board is via.	Jul 03 04:02
oiaohm	So yes activation trigger was kinda expected and when it did not happen it was what the.	Jul 03 04:02
MinceR	:)	Jul 03 04:03
oiaohm	cubexyz: depends on design. development boards it can be in bios standard boards it normally in e-fuses so not changable.	Jul 03 04:04
oiaohm	MinceR: the fun of having proto hardware is having stuff missing normal id markers.	Jul 03 04:05
cubexyz	there's a BIOS ID which should tell you which manufacturer at least	Jul 03 04:08
oiaohm	cubexyz: development boards the id values can in fact be bios settings that you can go in and change to whatever. Of course this is for testing detection and other horible things.	Jul 03 04:08
cubexyz	e.g. Q1 = QDI	Jul 03 04:09
cubexyz	usually it's the on the screen after the POST	Jul 03 04:09
oiaohm	cubexyz: think reading by software motherboard serial numbers.	Jul 03 04:09
oiaohm	That is not normally in bios.	Jul 03 04:10
oiaohm	Its a e-fused item normally but not on development boards.	Jul 03 04:10
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cubexyz	how can I tell if my motherboard has an efuse(s)?	Jul 03 04:11
cubexyz	it's not in the CPU is it?	Jul 03 04:12
oiaohm	Why do driver developers need to know this is X board might have Y defective chip but only for a particular range of production. So look up serial number work around defect.	Jul 03 04:12
oiaohm	cubexyz: e-fuses are all over the place.	Jul 03 04:13
MinceR	or just people who want to force DRM (even though it never worked) and people who want to break your privacy use it to identify your computer :>	Jul 03 04:14
oiaohm	https://www.techinsights.com/uploadedFiles/Public_Website/Content_-_Primary/Investigative_Analysis/2011/Five_Top_Trends_in_the_Mobile_Industry_for_2011/eFUSE%20technology%20in%20the%20Intel%20Westmere%20Clarkdale%20CPU.pdf	Jul 03 04:14
oiaohm	Intel and AMD and other use e-fuses to write ids into produced processors and lock features out of cpus.	Jul 03 04:15
cubexyz	I've heard of keyboard fuses but not efuses	Jul 03 04:15
oiaohm	Electronic Serial numbers on most devices is written into efuses.	Jul 03 04:16
oiaohm	Final fuse in a serial number write to a device is to prevent any more writing.	Jul 03 04:17
MinceR	in a brighter age, people were upset about CPUs having unique IDs	Jul 03 04:17
MinceR	nowadays, they're looking forward to having an RFID chip implanted under their skin	Jul 03 04:17
cubexyz	efuse seems to mean "cpu fuse" from what I'm reading now	Jul 03 04:18
oiaohm	cubexyz: cpu fuses is just one of there many uses.	Jul 03 04:18
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oiaohm	The worse use of efuses is what you find in xboxs and playstations and the like were as efuses blow they prevent you from installer older firmware.	Jul 03 04:20
MinceR	supporting the age-old essential use case known as "screwing your own customers"	Jul 03 04:21
cubexyz	just mod the hardware...	Jul 03 04:21
cubexyz	protect the efuse and JTAG from updates	Jul 03 04:22
oiaohm	IBM first made e-fuses to be able to tag hardware defects to allow more chips to be sold.	Jul 03 04:22
MinceR	just develop home chip fab technology so we can build computers we can trust	Jul 03 04:22
oiaohm	Its like all thing original usage makes sense.	Jul 03 04:22
oiaohm	How it used after that becomes a problem.	Jul 03 04:22
cubexyz	ah, an FPGA computer will do :)	Jul 03 04:23
MinceR	"Mac OS 8.6 included a new nanokernel" -- wtf	Jul 03 04:23
MinceR	here i thought the "lying about the type of your kernel" craze started later, at least at crApple	Jul 03 04:23
oiaohm	MinceR: I guess you don't know what a nanokernel is.	Jul 03 04:24
oiaohm	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel#Nanokernel	Jul 03 04:24
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MinceR	i just read that section	Jul 03 04:24
MinceR	and i'm none the wiser	Jul 03 04:25
oiaohm	for Mac OS Nanoekernel is like the intel ME or the google EC	Jul 03 04:25
MinceR	perhaps they meant the timer thing, but i can't fathom how that would be so important as to go into the designation of the kernel	Jul 03 04:25
MinceR	oh, lol	Jul 03 04:25
MinceR	i thought those were on the mainboard, not in the OS	Jul 03 04:25
oiaohm	Yes define number 3 on wikipedia "A hardware abstraction layer that forms the lowest-level part of a kernel, sometimes used to provide real-time functionality to normal operating systems, like"	Jul 03 04:26
oiaohm	MinceR: when you are making the hardware and the OS completely you don't have to keep the software split.	Jul 03 04:26
oiaohm	Yes Mac OS had a nanokernel and a normal kernel. Not something you normally see.	Jul 03 04:27
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MinceR	i'll write an OS that has 9001 kernels	Jul 03 04:31
MinceR	continuing the good m$/crApple tradition, i will mark out specific random groups instructions as "kernel"	Jul 03 04:31
MinceR	and i'll beat m$, crApple and redhat by making the whole thing run in kernel mode as a blob, including all the applications	Jul 03 04:31
MinceR	the slogan will be "No terms in this industry have any meaning whatsoever anymore!"	Jul 03 04:32
cubexyz	just build your own CPU with TTL chips :)	Jul 03 04:32
MinceR	and it will be useless for pretty much everything	Jul 03 04:33
MinceR	including crypto :>	Jul 03 04:33
oiaohm	MinceR: please don't joke about 9001 kernels. There was a prototype OS with 20 000 different kernels.	Jul 03 04:33
MinceR	maybe i could redefine "kernel" as having the same meaning as any other term in the industry	Jul 03 04:34
oiaohm	MinceR: it also run on 10 000 different cpu types at once	Jul 03 04:34
MinceR	so i can have the kernel kernel the kernel into a kernel, resulting in a kernel kernel	Jul 03 04:34
oiaohm	MinceR: in other words a cluster from hell.	Jul 03 04:34
MinceR	oiaohm: but can it run on 10000 different cpus in the same machine?	Jul 03 04:34
oiaohm	MinceR: yep 10 000 differnet cpus in the same machine.	Jul 03 04:35
oiaohm	It was a experement on how far could you push things.	Jul 03 04:35
cubexyz	"Yo Dawg, I heard you like Kernels so I put a kernel in your kernel"	Jul 03 04:35
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schestowitz	"	Jul 03 13:28
schestowitz	To Matthew Garner	Jul 03 13:28
schestowitz	The losers in any vote always invoke the "silent" on their side. All that an be known about them is that they were silent.	Jul 03 13:28
schestowitz	Using your logic most (I think about 70%) of the young voted to Remain. However, only 37% of them voted at all. Therefore the vast majority of the young did NOT vote to Remain.	Jul 03 13:28
schestowitz	"	Jul 03 13:28
oiaohm	The general rule is those who did not vote automatically vote abstaining so not interested in what direction the vote would turn out.	Jul 03 13:32
oiaohm	Little late to be caring now.	Jul 03 13:32
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/06/a-possible-way-for-non-eu-uk-to.html?showComment=1467538804605#c1981728884413299257	Jul 03 13:33
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schestowitz	"	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	In answer to The Pigs, economics is not my profession: I just read a newspaper online. The Paper published by the IMF research dept was downloadable via a Link. I failed to save the Link.	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	The Paper concludes that the negative effects of free movement are serious, in that they are not short-lived but instead are long-lasting enough to affect generations of people. Until now economists have not taken these downside consequences into account, because they haven't been able to measure them, to ascribe numbers to them.	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	I think that is because, until now, they have not bothered to find a way to measure them. perhaps they will now. Better late than never.	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	Germany and France imposed a 7 year feeeze on Poles wanting to work in their countries, after Poland acceded to the EU. Did the UK Civil Service think of doing that? Yes! Did the UK Government do it? No! I suppose it thought that England could do with all the lean and fit, trained and qualified, hard-working employees from wherever it could find them. And straightaway too.	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	"	Jul 03 13:33
oiaohm	Looks like Australia is heading for a hung parliament and Senate. Even with Australia mandatory voting laws still over 20 percent has still offically declared no vote either way.	Jul 03 13:35
oiaohm	Also I think it strange that some how to share a patent court means having to share everything else.	Jul 03 13:39
oiaohm	Historically treaties over patents and copyright have been done between countries without requiring anything else to be shared.	Jul 03 13:39
oiaohm	Just UK IP legal debates have to return to old school treaties talks.	Jul 03 13:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/749584626432217088	Jul 03 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Jesus Christ.... This is insane.		Jul 03 13:58
schestowitz	I have just responded. Hopefully IP Kat wont' censor my polite comment again...	Jul 03 13:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749586226697605121	Jul 03 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz out of curiosity: what rules?		Jul 03 13:59
schestowitz	1. soaping oneself in sauna; 2) no trunks (girls 'ran' away); 3) hacking thermostat; 4) leaving sauna open; 5) leaving showerS (many) on .	Jul 03 14:00
schestowitz	6) throwing water around in sauna; 7) exposing oneself (prick-waving etc.). Guests were visible irritated.	Jul 03 14:01
schestowitz	If you pay 70 quid for a massage or something you don't expect to see people like this around (as members)	Jul 03 14:02
schestowitz	*[typo] visibly irritated (other people did complain too)	Jul 03 14:03
schestowitz	^context: some idiot in the spa will have membership terminated	Jul 03 14:04
oiaohm	schestowitz: really the interesting question is will the complete UK leave the EU or will only a section.	Jul 03 14:06
oiaohm	schestowitz: because legally each part of the UK is allowed to make it own selection when it comes to treaties.	Jul 03 14:06
schestowitz	i don't think anything will change	Jul 03 14:09
schestowitz	it increasingly looks like this	Jul 03 14:09
schestowitz	media and government will convince people	Jul 03 14:09
schestowitz	that it's in their best interest to stay	Jul 03 14:09
schestowitz	and that people who voted to leave have since changed their mind	Jul 03 14:10
schestowitz	and the referendum was never legally binding	Jul 03 14:10
schestowitz	my lawyers (acted on my behalf when the EPO threatened legal action) writes a lot about this subject right now, gets cited widely on how the brexit thing won't be followed through	Jul 03 14:10
schestowitz	and I think he makes a compelling case for why this is more so true all the time	Jul 03 14:11
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/ZjD946a.gifv	Jul 03 14:33
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749596826991558656	Jul 03 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Seems like a correct thing to do to report such behavior.		Jul 03 14:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749597220828315648	Jul 03 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz This was in UK? Proper behaviour in sauna seems culturally dependent. But some of the things he did wouldn't be ok here either.		Jul 03 14:35
schestowitz	Yes, I know. Is it true that in Finland people pour vodka in?	Jul 03 14:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://dengerzone.com/elementary-os-0-4-loki/ )		Jul 03 14:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749597621493370880 https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749597998208937984 https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749598624837931010 https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749598989880856576	Jul 03 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Mainly: not following following proper respectful behavior. Dick waving and soap would be total no-no's in a public sauna.		Jul 03 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz It is not true. But water is thrown to the stones, always.		Jul 03 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz This is called "Löyly", which is a word roughly meaning "Life". But it has sacred overtones as Sauna is an ancient holy space.		Jul 03 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Although nowadays, not even many Finns would know this. Despite almost everyone doing Sauna at least once a week. 😅		Jul 03 15:00
schestowitz	When I'm in Germany and Switzerland people are nuke, but no alcohol drinking. Any different in Finland?	Jul 03 15:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/749602229712252928	Jul 03 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: Might make a good router/firewall @schestowitz https://t.co/KqvqFEBYbR		Jul 03 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> CompuLab's Fitlet Is A Very Tiny, Fanless, Linux PC With AMD A10 Micro - Phoronix		Jul 03 15:02
schestowitz	Not so economic compared to most routers..	Jul 03 15:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/749602730814103552	Jul 03 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@motters: @schestowitz freedoms 2 & 3 aren't only relevant to programmers, since software includes more than code: translations, graphics, audio, etc		Jul 03 15:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749604640212262912	Jul 03 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Generally no drinking of any kind in a public sauna here. Not even soft drinks. When you come out of Löyly, you can have a sip.		Jul 03 15:06
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cubexyz	oiaohm dude, I'm still using 90's tech	Jul 03 15:51
cubexyz	what's this talk about 3 or 4 years? :)	Jul 03 15:51
cubexyz	in the vic-20 era I only really used it between 1982 and 1985, so yes 3 years for that one	Jul 03 15:55
cubexyz	the SL-5500 zaurus is 2002 era	Jul 03 15:57
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cubexyz	I spent quite a long time working on kde1 stuff yesterday	Jul 03 15:59
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4r1l56/is_incompatibility_with_microsoft_word_a_sound/	Jul 03 16:10
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oiaohm	cubexyz: remember most of my figures are 24/7 running.	Jul 03 16:12
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cubexyz	oiaohm, same here	Jul 03 16:14
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cubexyz	well, except for the laser printer, that isn't running 24/7	Jul 03 16:14
cubexyz	but it is 1997 technology	Jul 03 16:14
oiaohm	schestowitz: its true that MS Office products are incompatible between version. Unless you are somewhere that has a volume license so everyone is on the same version libreoffice differences are no worst than what multi versions of MS Office generate anyhow.	Jul 03 16:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: every part in a computer has an expect max hours of operation.	Jul 03 16:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: the short expect max on a motherboard will be about 7 to 8 years.	Jul 03 16:16
oiaohm	cubexyz: and that is 24/7 no sleep mode no power off.	Jul 03 16:16
cubexyz	oiaohm, that's true but it's more a question of how repairable things are and how easily one can obtain replacement parts	Jul 03 16:16
oiaohm	Now of course that is server boards.	Jul 03 16:17
cubexyz	if I was running a CP/M box with 8 inch floppy drives, I'd be in trouble	Jul 03 16:17
cubexyz	but a P3? The world is drowning in parts for that	Jul 03 16:17
oiaohm	Desktop boards with 1/3 operation meaning design for 8 hours a day only.	Jul 03 16:17
oiaohm	and you then run that 24/7	Jul 03 16:18
oiaohm	Say ouch at 3 years.	Jul 03 16:18
oiaohm	So there are quality differences	Jul 03 16:19
oiaohm	As well as how repairable.	Jul 03 16:19
cubexyz	the QDI box still has the original power supply	Jul 03 16:20
schestowitz	retro https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4qpemf/fucked_up_grub_have_no_usb_stick_nor_other_live/	Jul 03 16:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Fucked up grub, have no USB stick nor other Live CDs laying around. Maybe this will be my savior? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pehvm ]		Jul 03 16:20
cubexyz	that's 2001...	Jul 03 16:20
cubexyz	oiaohm, I had a bit of a shock going to the computer store and they didn't seem to know what an IDE drive was	Jul 03 16:20
oiaohm	I do have a pent 233 around here that still works.	Jul 03 16:21
oiaohm	But it mostly had a light life	Jul 03 16:21
cubexyz	but as you pointed out I can just stick an SATA/IDE card in the computer	Jul 03 16:22
oiaohm	There is sata to ide converters and back.	Jul 03 16:23
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4q1mnj/forgetting_how_to_microsoft/	Jul 03 16:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Forgetting how to Microsoft : linux		Jul 03 16:23
oiaohm	With CNC machines with old pata drive bases you have to use that stuff.	Jul 03 16:23
cubexyz	Microsoft? What's that? :)	Jul 03 16:25
oiaohm	cubexyz: you know you have a problem when the only thing on the shelf is SAS	Jul 03 16:28
cubexyz	usb drives though...	Jul 03 16:28
cubexyz	lots of those	Jul 03 16:28
cubexyz	my amiga 500 is a bit of a problem to support	Jul 03 16:29
cubexyz	SCSI-1, have to scrounge around for those	Jul 03 16:29
cubexyz	you can imagine the monitor issues with amiga	Jul 03 16:30
cubexyz	my monitor fixing skills are weak :-/	Jul 03 16:31
cubexyz	it's got the mono composite out, I can use that	Jul 03 16:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/749628353431408640	Jul 03 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: Great! Format your Linux HD & ask systemd to reboot the useless box! P.S. you can do the same w/ b > sysrq-trigger https://t.co/rm0jgZOYqs		Jul 03 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #systemd reboots the system from RAM alone https://t.co/zdQHUaGYJe doesn't provide mental comfort, does it? https://t.co/RItq4zGhYV		Jul 03 16:40
schestowitz	https://i.reddituploads.com/87ad3b41868c4073925ab91aac72fb37?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=8ff8f3e3026db07035ab6040105cb19b	Jul 03 16:42
schestowitz	Once upon a time	Jul 03 16:43
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W9C_9MYxWM what people get to work	Jul 03 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amiga Rgb to Scart and Scart to HDMI - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pei0p ]		Jul 03 16:43
schestowitz	Now we have Lennux with systemd	Jul 03 16:43
cubexyz	ahem slack ahem openbsd :)	Jul 03 16:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: that is amiga rgb to scart then scart to hdmi so allowing modern screens.	Jul 03 16:44
cubexyz	oiaohm, I want the historically accurate equipment for amiga	Jul 03 16:45
oiaohm	cubexyz: so screen issue is how many converters required.	Jul 03 16:45
cubexyz	a quirk I know	Jul 03 16:45
oiaohm	Personally when it comes to old crt monitors I am happy to see the back to them.	Jul 03 16:45
oiaohm	I have some bad memories of being on the wrong side of their high voltages.	Jul 03 16:45
cubexyz	yeah the techs don't like to look at my old CRTs	Jul 03 16:46
oiaohm	Have you ever looked at the voltages inside.	Jul 03 16:46
oiaohm	And how far if you screw up they throw you.	Jul 03 16:46
cubexyz	just HDTV LCD's, I've taken those apart	Jul 03 16:46
oiaohm	Think of the crt tube as one huge capacitor.	Jul 03 16:47
oiaohm	Bigger it is the more it can hurt you.	Jul 03 16:47
oiaohm	crt tube can hold it enough to throw you badly for more than 4 weeks + without a power connection.	Jul 03 16:47
oiaohm	Modern day plasma and LCD don't contain evil.	Jul 03 16:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749630496288669697	Jul 03 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz What resolution does your monitor have?		Jul 03 16:48
oiaohm	Turn modern day stuff off wait a max of a hour and its basically safe.	Jul 03 16:48
schestowitz	1920p across (external), less on the laptop	Jul 03 16:49
oiaohm	cubexyz: CRT discharge is normally high volts low amps so not going to kill you as such. But having you mussels move without exact control can get you into all kinds of trouble quickly.	Jul 03 16:53
oiaohm	cubexyz: like my worst was ending up flat on back under a 20 kg monitor I pulled on top of self due to discharge.	Jul 03 16:53
cubexyz	ouch	Jul 03 16:53
oiaohm	To be truthful that was not the most dangerous. The boss one day was almost killed by flying screw driver because due to arc staff member threw it.	Jul 03 16:54
oiaohm	cubexyz: after a few close calls like that you can understand when a tech sees a crt screen they go can we please use converters and LCD/Plasma instead or just price that high you give up.	Jul 03 16:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: we knew the screw driver was not thrown by the person and it was lethal due to the fact it passed threw solid door behind boss.	Jul 03 16:57
oiaohm	cubexyz: and work place had security cameras.	Jul 03 16:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749632794578616320 https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749633032349487104	Jul 03 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz That's the same as mine. I thought maybe your monitor's resolution would explain why the font on techrights is so small.		Jul 03 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz But it doesn't. Ah well, I'll just keep on pressing ctrl-+ when I read techrights.		Jul 03 16:58
schestowitz	I do that too :-)	Jul 03 16:58
cubexyz	oiaohm, I need a LCD that can do 15 khz	Jul 03 17:04
cubexyz	or I just keep buying old CRTs	Jul 03 17:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749633857629122560	Jul 03 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Now I'm perplexed. If you know your site is hard to read, why not make it more accessible?		Jul 03 17:05
schestowitz	Backward compatibility with original design 10 years ago	Jul 03 17:05
oiaohm	cubexyz: that is why you end up with scart to hdmi.	Jul 03 17:10
oiaohm	cubexyz: lot of the different converters handle different khz before turning them to standard modern hdmi speeds.	Jul 03 17:12
cubexyz	oiaohm, I have the schematic for the amiga 1080	Jul 03 17:17
cubexyz	so if I can find a tech maybe the monitor can be repaired	Jul 03 17:18
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oiaohm	cubexyz: most fails in crt monitors are not key parts. Problem is having anyone wanting to deal with them.	Jul 03 17:20
oiaohm	cubexyz: most of my dealing with crt was with apples where to change harddrives and main controller boards you had to get around the crt safely.	Jul 03 17:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: so from have device function point of view look at converters.	Jul 03 17:22
cubexyz	the 1080 stops showing red after a few minutes, otherwise it does work	Jul 03 17:22
oiaohm	Converter is also important to know if fault is amiga 1080 side or old crt as well.	Jul 03 17:23
oiaohm	A single color disappearing remembering that the old amiga are a rgb output could be a out put failure.	Jul 03 17:24
oiaohm	No point messing with the crt if it not the part at fault.	Jul 03 17:24
cubexyz	nah, got to be the monitor	Jul 03 17:27
cubexyz	could be the monitor cable though	Jul 03 17:29
cubexyz	but I doubt it... why would it work for a few minutes then stop showing red?	Jul 03 17:29
cubexyz	then turn it off for a while then it shows red for a while again?	Jul 03 17:29
oiaohm	some of the old devices simple things like power feeds can be cutting out in places.	Jul 03 17:33
oiaohm	Also with cables sometimes with the old insulations when they heat they use to expand so making a break in a cable larger.	Jul 03 17:34
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TweetTuxMachines	Links 3/7/2016: GNU/Linux Desktop Market Share Hype,	Jul 03 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24 Release Party in Panama https://t.co/Fh1FOO4rAe	Jul 03 20:11
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cubexyz	anyone know how to delete all backslashes from a file using vim?	Jul 03 20:14
MinceR	:%s/\\//g -- perhaps	Jul 03 20:15
cubexyz	yes good	Jul 03 20:16
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TweetTuxMachines	Want to bring that old netbook back to life? Hands-on	Jul 03 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	with Manjaro LXQt and LXLE https://t.co/shuEePTQlz	Jul 03 21:36
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SebthreeBQM10HD	MinceR,	Jul 03 22:02
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schestowitz	" SUEPO is very pleased to hear about this apparent change of mind and sincerely hopes that concrete steps will follow soon – not only in Munich but also at the other places of employment. "	Jul 03 23:40
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MinceR	https://thenib.com/anti-social-dependencies-71325f49c2f6	Jul 04 00:21
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DaemonFC	I might get a couple more games on the Steam sale.	Jul 04 03:11
DaemonFC	I usually just get the $2-3 ones.	Jul 04 03:11
DaemonFC	The Witcher and The Witcher 2 maybe.	Jul 04 03:11
*MinceR is waiting for The Witchest		Jul 04 03:11
DaemonFC	The third one is still kind of expensive. It'll go on sale for a better price when it's old.	Jul 04 03:11
DaemonFC	MinceR, I considered Rust but it sounds pretty shitty.	Jul 04 03:12
DaemonFC	Not the game. The people who play it.	Jul 04 03:12
MinceR	:>	Jul 04 03:12
DaemonFC	It doesn't sandbox you so you're still trying to make a bow and arrow and all of a sudden all these naked peopel ambush you with assault rifles.	Jul 04 03:12
MinceR	lol	Jul 04 03:12
DaemonFC	Seems like a waste of money.	Jul 04 03:12
MinceR	sounds like i'll just stick with xonotic	Jul 04 03:12
DaemonFC	Steam is so cruel with their video game sales.	Jul 04 03:13
DaemonFC	"$2? I don't want to lose money on this! Give me all of them!".	Jul 04 03:13
DaemonFC	Then you buy like $40-50 worth of games, most of them are crap.	Jul 04 03:14
DaemonFC	You play two of them.	Jul 04 03:14
DaemonFC	I don't buy anything unless the reviews are Very Positive or Overwhelmingly Positive.	Jul 04 03:14
DaemonFC	They have Skyrim on the sale, but John has the XBOX 360 version so I think I'll just play it on that.	Jul 04 03:15
DaemonFC	Never got around to it. I loved Oblivion.	Jul 04 03:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749791263176597504	Jul 04 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	Kubuntu 16.04 LTS Users Receive the Latest KDE Plasma	Jul 04 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	5.6.5 Desktop, Update Now https://t.co/ggLg3FvOQi	Jul 04 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 03:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749791263927316480	Jul 04 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets New Test Build, Adds	Jul 04 03:25
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Kernel 4.4.14 LTS https://t.co/kSRM20X7Mw	Jul 04 03:25
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Australia backflips on Appelbaum stance	Jul 04 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SyJOynBqSw (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 04 03:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749791265382764544	Jul 04 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of	Jul 04 03:26
TweetTuxMachines	systemd with Linux 4.4.14 LTS https://t.co/4cK7CqKmIW	Jul 04 03:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749791266490109952	Jul 04 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	RaspEX OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Updated with OpenCPN 4.4.0,	Jul 04 06:24
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/StOAC54C3O	Jul 04 06:24
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*TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'RaspEX OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Updated with...'		Jul 04 06:24
*TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of systemd...'		Jul 04 06:24
*TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of systemd...'		Jul 04 06:24
*TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'GNOME and GTK https://t.co/ZoQMn7hR4G'		Jul 04 06:25
*TweetTuxMachines @linuxusergroup favourited 'How to sideload Android apps on a Chromebook...'		Jul 04 06:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749840218983845891	Jul 04 08:06
TweetTuxMachines	Needed: A Linux Three in One Distro	Jul 04 08:06
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TweetTuxMachines	Want to bring that old netbook back to life? Hands-on	Jul 04 09:16
TweetTuxMachines	with Manjaro LXQt and LXLE https://t.co/O6UK0VJm2n	Jul 04 09:16
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TweetTuxMachines	Kubuntu 16.04 LTS Users Receive the Latest KDE Plasma	Jul 04 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	5.6.5 Desktop, Update Now https://t.co/EvqurihKhG	Jul 04 09:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749881697529913345	Jul 04 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 "Erik" Gets New Test Build, Adds	Jul 04 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Kernel 4.4.14 LTS https://t.co/8hzoui2iSi	Jul 04 09:26
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 04 09:26
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schestowitz	cubexyz: Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of systemd with Linux 4.4.14 LTS http://news.softpedia.com/news/slackware-based-vectorlinux-7-2-beta-ships-free-of-systemd-with-linux-4-4-14-lts-505936.shtml	Jul 04 09:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of systemd with Linux 4.4.14 LTS [ http://ur1.ca/pen49 ]		Jul 04 09:27
schestowitz	no systemd	Jul 04 09:27
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Australia backflips on Appelbaum stance	Jul 04 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8f7iHIKtB3 (www.itwire.com)	Jul 04 09:28
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 04 09:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749882377476927489	Jul 04 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	Slackware-Based VectorLinux 7.2 Beta Ships Free of	Jul 04 09:28
TweetTuxMachines	systemd with Linux 4.4.14 LTS https://t.co/r3fPAHfHk4	Jul 04 09:28
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749882610562760704	Jul 04 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	RaspEX OS for Raspberry Pi 3 Updated with OpenCPN 4.4.0,	Jul 04 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Based on Ubuntu 16.04 https://t.co/JlAovTIo1f	Jul 04 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749882711561670656	Jul 04 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Needed: A Linux Three in One Distro	Jul 04 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/p7tIzRYmrd (fossforce.com)	Jul 04 09:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749884300674342912	Jul 04 09:51
TweetTuxMachines	Slackware Linux 14.2 Released — World’s Oldest Surviving	Jul 04 09:51
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Distribution https://t.co/yZOcTgbak7	Jul 04 09:51
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jul 04 09:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749886464696123393	Jul 04 09:51
TweetTuxMachines	Raspberry Pi Zero Becomes Mighty Miniature Minecraft	Jul 04 09:51
TweetTuxMachines	Machine https://t.co/fVvtPkuK4t (hackaday.com)	Jul 04 09:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749886786684477440	Jul 04 09:51
TweetTuxMachines	Apache, Debian crews patch library with DoS vuln	Jul 04 09:51
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BIfNu1sRVh (www.theregister.co.uk)	Jul 04 09:51
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749888480868573185	Jul 04 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	Top 10 Raspberry Pi add-on boards	Jul 04 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Zgx0cxRrD8 (opensource.com)	Jul 04 09:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749888818636029952	Jul 04 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	"The Knoppix distribution goes back in time... to provide	Jul 04 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	an interface for computer users who are blind."	Jul 04 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gwgZ6nYRAI (opensource.com)	Jul 04 09:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749889274942746624	Jul 04 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	CompuLab Comes Out With New Rugged, Fanless	Jul 04 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-Friendly PC https://t.co/tn554b12HD	Jul 04 09:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 09:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749897234121056260	Jul 04 10:35
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Devices https://t.co/ql1Cpu1dUd	Jul 04 10:35
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Zeipt/status/749899608403378177	Jul 04 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Zeipt: Блин, "Homeservers"... Это ж прям тот самый концепт, который для Mycely собирался реализовать, но застрял пока((( https://t.co/77bi4XaVqt		Jul 04 10:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Distributed, Open Source Chat with Vector and Matrix https://t.co/IuL6TeyM4i #freesw		Jul 04 10:37
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SeaH2ONymph/status/749903311197859840	Jul 04 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SeaH2ONymph: Developing countries 'lost' $7.8 trillion in cash 2004-13: #MossackFonseca Wikileaks of the mega-rich #TaxHavens https://t.co/qwpsKbBDsg		Jul 04 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Secret bankers be warned: "Panama Papers" were the first shots of a "Helvetian War." https://t.co/eus2rle9y1 #switzerland #panama		Jul 04 10:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/749904558516736000	Jul 04 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: Nah, it just targets stupid people. Who else would install "firefox-patch"? https://t.co/k7i7TzQnfm		Jul 04 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another friendly reminder that running #freesw on top of #malware like #microsoft #windows leaves one exposed https://t.co/29EWYhti62		Jul 04 10:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749899465163759616	Jul 04 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	Testing The Red Hat/Rackspace Private Cloud	Jul 04 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines	Debian On Chromebooks	Jul 04 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines	8 Android Nougat features worth chewing over	Jul 04 11:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Q3XRV1BHgO (www.trustedreviews.com)	Jul 04 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines	Javier Igea: How do you Fedora? https://t.co/m7gUKkPkvh	Jul 04 11:54
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TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.7 RC6, Things Are	Jul 04 11:55
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Bigger https://t.co/WEJFNgq8H5	Jul 04 11:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749919399205896196	Jul 04 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer Moves to Linux	Jul 04 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	4.6, Adds MIPS64el Support https://t.co/e9YvKdc5mP	Jul 04 11:58
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Debian https://t.co/1jnPUTQUqD	Jul 04 11:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920369646051329	Jul 04 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	Javier Igea: How do you Fedora? https://t.co/rIAbTkbDb7	Jul 04 11:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920370405175296	Jul 04 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.7 RC6, Things Are	Jul 04 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Bigger https://t.co/lRJbscQ4u4	Jul 04 11:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920371424440320	Jul 04 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer Moves to Linux	Jul 04 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	4.6, Adds MIPS64el Support https://t.co/vQz3XIskOA	Jul 04 11:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920372133228544	Jul 04 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/UtssqegwqX	Jul 04 12:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749921696300298240	Jul 04 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	Network Security Toolkit (NST) Linux OS Released Based on	Jul 04 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24, Linux 4.6 https://t.co/o63ZfcYTS2	Jul 04 12:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749922235918548992	Jul 04 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS 2.84 Beta Promises to Fix "Black Screen" Issues	Jul 04 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	with Nvidia GPUs https://t.co/XWTfuSM0GO	Jul 04 12:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@AlexaInfo http://twitter.com/AlexaInfo/status/749923641865998336	Jul 04 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo!	Jul 04 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 (paper.li) Thanks to @Continove	Jul 04 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	@danceman @tuxmachines	Jul 04 12:35
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TweetTuxMachines	Network Security Toolkit (NST) Linux OS Released Based on	Jul 04 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24, Linux 4.6 https://t.co/L6MA5BfPy8	Jul 04 14:30
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DusWatNou/status/749951164976947200	Jul 04 17:24
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: "Boris Johnson has said he will apologise on national television" https://t.co/50KZhwbIVv I'm still waiting for Bo Jo the Clown to apologise		Jul 04 17:24
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TweetTuxMachines	IBM's SoftLayer cloud gets certified Ubuntu Linux 16.04	Jul 04 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	LTS images https://t.co/yUC7vXO6we (www.v3.co.uk)	Jul 04 17:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@AlexaInfo http://twitter.com/gtpintado/status/750007721752166400	Jul 04 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo!	Jul 04 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@gtpintado https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 (paper.li) Thanks to @Continove	Jul 04 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@danceman @tuxmachines	Jul 04 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750010847188115460	Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	Get ready to be scared again as Layers of Fear:	Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	Inheritance DLC has been announced	Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kHT7nDHbc9 (www.gamingonlinux.com) "Linux	Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	support on August 2nd."	Jul 04 18:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750013430720004096	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	Future of Li-f-e: Linux for Education distribution	Jul 04 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	Snappy Moves in the Main Arch Linux Repo, snapd 2.0.10	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	Released to Fedora COPR https://t.co/IHqC5hqX1y	Jul 04 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750016067397967873	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Stretch Successor To Be Codenamed Bullseye	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GkMrmLKrza (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750016361691246592	Jul 04 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	Four More Changes Proposed For Fedora 25	Jul 04 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/f1xDpIFY4s (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 18:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750017820340215810	Jul 04 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	Bcachefs Still Being Developed As A Next-Gen Linux	Jul 04 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	File-System https://t.co/MxkCLUGMR4 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 18:38
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TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/qb6CfMd1DQ	Jul 04 19:49
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TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/UzW9BIiSTe	Jul 04 19:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038740307894272	Jul 04 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	The Growth of the Linux and Open Source Channel since	Jul 04 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038740995747841	Jul 04 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Arastta: Community Driven & Open Source eCommerce	Jul 04 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038741687738369	Jul 04 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	H2O.ai uncorks Sparkling Water 2.0	Jul 04 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	6 Things I Want From BlackBerry’s Trio of Android Phones	Jul 04 19:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8NlGJXVtos (www.knowyourmobile.com)	Jul 04 19:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750039954475081728	Jul 04 19:58
TweetTuxMachines	Android Auto explored: Taking Google on the road	Jul 04 19:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e6hKJXffFA (www.pocket-lint.com)	Jul 04 19:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750040421317869568	Jul 04 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24 Release Party in Sao Paulo	Jul 04 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BtuOtCuKsV (danielammorais.com)	Jul 04 19:59
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DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/comcast-boosts-data-cap-from-300gb-to-1tb-unlimited-data-will-cost-50/	Jul 04 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| A Comcastic miracle: Data caps will go from 300GB to a terabyte \| Ars Technica		Jul 04 20:46
DaemonFC	Yeah, and they slipped in a price hike of $10 for every tier right after announcing that.	Jul 04 20:46
DaemonFC	They always find a way to cheat you.	Jul 04 20:46
DaemonFC	The cap was never about congestion. It was about Comcast not wanting to have to compete with Netflix.	Jul 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750041158072594432	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Eurotech partner for managing IoT edge	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	devices https://t.co/Ys4Bu5An6V (www.iottechnews.com)	Jul 04 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750041383096942592	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) Released. See what’s New?	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JrARzuzO7L (www.unixmen.com)	Jul 04 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750050215084879872	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Links 4/7/2016: VectorLinux 7.2 Beta, Linux 4.7 RC 6	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BjQAWC4X6d (techrights.org)	Jul 04 20:47
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DaemonFC	I stopped using Chrome largely because Google won't allow extensions that block its own ads in Youtube.	Jul 04 20:50
schestowitz	yeah, not just that	Jul 04 20:52
schestowitz	it's a proprietary web browser	Jul 04 20:52
schestowitz	DaemonFC: happy fireworks day BTW	Jul 04 20:53
DaemonFC	thanks	Jul 04 20:53
XRevan86	DaemonFC: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm like this one?	Jul 04 20:54
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DaemonFC	XRevan86, If you upload an ad blocker that can block ads in Youtube, Google will ban it from the Chrome store.	Jul 04 20:55
XRevan86	DaemonFC: But this one can, can it?	Jul 04 20:55
DaemonFC	If it could then it wouldn't be there.	Jul 04 20:55
XRevan86	or should it be a sole-purpose of the extention to block youtube ads?	Jul 04 20:56
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I never checked how it works on Chromium, though. On Firefox it definitely does.	Jul 04 20:56
DaemonFC	Well, I assume that if you install an ad blocker, it's because you don't want to see any ads.	Jul 04 20:56
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I mean, on YouTube only.	Jul 04 20:59
DaemonFC	I've seen Firefox extensions that only block Youtube ads.	Jul 04 21:00
XRevan86	or rather, explicitly blocking on YouTube	Jul 04 21:00
XRevan86	uBlock blocks ads but never mentions YouTube specifically on its page	Jul 04 21:00
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I checked: uBlock Origin blocks YouTube ads with a completely default settings on Chromium.	Jul 04 21:04
XRevan86	So at least that %).	Jul 04 21:04
XRevan86	Maybe if Google would find out, all general-purpose ad blockers will go away too.	Jul 04 21:04
cubexyz	most of the time I'm using firefox	Jul 04 21:06
cubexyz	except if the computer is very old... then dillo or lynx	Jul 04 21:06
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I stopped using Chrom(e\|ium) largely because it eats RAM big time and is not customisable enough.	Jul 04 21:08
DaemonFC	My next PC might be an all in one.	Jul 04 21:08
DaemonFC	I'm tired of this rat's nest of cables and cords and stuff.	Jul 04 21:08
XRevan86	Google's name on it also doesn't help, yes.	Jul 04 21:08
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mckittrick	hello	Jul 04 21:31
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DaemonFC`	Well, something just crashed my computer.	Jul 04 22:09
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cubexyz	ok, here is what we run at the computer lab here:	Jul 05 00:12
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/computer-lab-current-os.txt	Jul 05 00:12
DaemonFC	Steam is updating.... The most annoying part about Steam.	Jul 05 00:15
cubexyz	btw I just learned today that kobo publishes their source code repo on github, so that's a thumbs up from me:	Jul 05 00:27
cubexyz	https://github.com/kobolabs	Jul 05 00:27
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razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 05 00:27
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Just now · Chicago ·	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Some files were found in the Windows 10 Anniversary update indicating that Windows might be going to a "subscription" model.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Microsoft has denied that it has anything to do with Windows Home or Pro editions. It's just a way for companies to subscribe to "Enterprise Edition" features.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Now, that might be true (for now), but a problem that Microsoft has always had is "How do you get people to pay for a Windows update when the version they have operates their computer just fine?". Even more, how do you get them to pay for a shit upgrade like Vista or 8 when they don't want it?	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Well, Windows 10 forced updates and a "pay for a subscription or the computer stops working" system could solve both of their problems. If the update screws up your computer, then oh well. They still get your money.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	I'll keep my options in mind if they proceed to a subscription model. I used Fedora Linux for close to ten years without running Windows on my computer at all. Wine doesn't have perfect Windows simulation, but it's not terrible. Almost all of the really popular Windows apps work. Then there's the fact that Steam is on Linux natively now (Steam OS is a version of Debian), and so are about 40% of the games.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	When I get paid again, I'm considering getting a really large capacity SSD and transferring my files over from the hard disk I've been using as D drive (for massive files that won't fit on my SSD that the OS lives on, and then installing Linux.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Windows 10 really pissed me off this morning. I had made good progress in a game, including defeating a boss, and then Windows 10 gives me this goddamn blue screen with, I shit you not, " :( Herp derp, your computer has stopped working.".	Jul 05 00:30
DaemonFC	Well, not an exact quote, but it did really have a :( in the error message. The fuck?	Jul 05 00:30
cubexyz	D drive, really? :)	Jul 05 00:31
cubexyz	I hope you mean /mnt/d :)	Jul 05 00:31
cubexyz	hold on, I got a windows error for you...	Jul 05 00:33
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.png	Jul 05 00:33
razielle_tzu	aren't the BSODs just as bad?	Jul 05 00:34
cubexyz	it's a general dumbing down really	Jul 05 00:36
cubexyz	people get these useless error messages, and then the BSOD itself is unrecoverable...	Jul 05 00:38
razielle_tzu	i've not seen a BSOD yet so i don't know how little info they actually have	Jul 05 00:38
DaemonFC	I got a BSoD while I was playing Borderlands 2.	Jul 05 00:39
DaemonFC	Then my computer restarted and hung after the bootsplash.	Jul 05 00:39
DaemonFC	So I had to hold down the power button and then turn it back on.	Jul 05 00:39
DaemonFC	Probably a driver error.	Jul 05 00:39
DaemonFC	I'm guessing the Radeon display driver because of course it would be.	Jul 05 00:40
DaemonFC	Microsoft is supposed to check them for "quality" before they get pushed down to users, but in reality they cause all kinds of problems because they're completely full of bugs.	Jul 05 00:40
cubexyz	mainframes actually handle errors far better than what we have	Jul 05 00:41
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> I got a BSoD while I was playing Borderlands 2.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Then my computer restarted and hung after the bootsplash.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> So I had to hold down the power button and then turn it back on.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Probably a driver error.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> I'm guessing the Radeon display driver because of course it would be.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Microsoft is supposed to check them for "quality" before they get pushed down to users, but in reality they cause all kinds of problems because they're completely full of bugs.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	oops	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	They've literally patched hundreds of bugs in Windows 10 and it still does many of the same annoying things that the first build did.	Jul 05 00:43
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TweetTuxMachines	PCLinuxOS 2016.07 "MATE" has just been released	Jul 05 00:43
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DaemonFC	I keep getting bad updates that brick the search system.	Jul 05 00:43
cubexyz	yout want a Linux box that doesn't crash? Build it with top of the line parts, plus add more $$$ for a good UPS, then run text only	Jul 05 00:44
razielle_tzu	someone in another channel i'm in is trying to claim that secondary and tertiary timings on some ram is the likely cause of sporadic BSODs they're experiencing... i'm finding nothing on ANY site to suggest this is even possible	Jul 05 00:44
DaemonFC	A bad RAM module can cause random errors.	Jul 05 00:45
DaemonFC	Of course, so can a bad CMOS battery.	Jul 05 00:45
cubexyz	RAM modules can fail due to overheating	Jul 05 00:45
razielle_tzu	sure but it being due to secondary and tertiray timings?	Jul 05 00:45
DaemonFC	I had a bad battery once that was causing sporadic kernel panics.	Jul 05 00:45
DaemonFC	I don't think that would be likely.	Jul 05 00:45
cubexyz	fan failure -> overheating -> ram failure	Jul 05 00:46
cubexyz	simple	Jul 05 00:46
DaemonFC	If you have mismatched RAM, you could have problems.	Jul 05 00:46
DaemonFC	The motherboard is supposed to figure it out, but there's no standard behavior for that situation.	Jul 05 00:46
razielle_tzu	two ram kits, same manufacturer just different years	Jul 05 00:47
DaemonFC	I have quite a few fans in my system. An intake, and outtake, the power supply fan, the CPU fan...	Jul 05 00:47
DaemonFC	Overheating hasn't been an issue.	Jul 05 00:47
DaemonFC	Oh, and two in the graphics card. :P	Jul 05 00:47
cubexyz	I've seen HP laserjet fans last 20 years, so fans can last a long time, but if they do fail stuff can overheat	Jul 05 00:53
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 05 00:55
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DaemonFC	I've seen hard drives last 25 years.	Jul 05 01:03
DaemonFC	Most of them don't.	Jul 05 01:03
razielle_tzu	not any more	Jul 05 01:03
cubexyz	sure, I own a couple like that :)	Jul 05 01:03
cubexyz	Quantum 49mb LP52S in my Amiga	Jul 05 01:03
DaemonFC	Heat is a big factor in how long they work.	Jul 05 01:03
DaemonFC	Getting as much heat out of the case as you can is important.	Jul 05 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750118031641047041	Jul 05 01:04
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cubexyz	and those old external drives had................... fans :)	Jul 05 01:04
cubexyz	well, at least one fan anyway	Jul 05 01:04
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 05 01:04
cubexyz	it's not quite fair to compare my Quantum drive from 1990 to the newer stuff though	Jul 05 01:05
cubexyz	for one thing, I turn the amiga on only once per month	Jul 05 01:05
cubexyz	the server runs 24/7	Jul 05 01:06
cubexyz	but I know it has a Seagate ST340810A which was made in 2001	Jul 05 01:06
DaemonFC	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bailing-after-brexit-uk-independence-party-leader-farage-quits_us_577a4672e4b04164641064ca	Jul 05 01:07
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DaemonFC	The UK has been getting all of the benefits of membership in the EU while avoiding most of the obligations.	Jul 05 01:07
DaemonFC	They're going to regret leaving.	Jul 05 01:07
cubexyz	can't they just change their minds?	Jul 05 01:08
DaemonFC	Ratings agencies have downgraded the credit rating of the UK to the same level as the US state of Illinois, which has the worst rating in the US.	Jul 05 01:08
DaemonFC	And the outlook is negative. One of them even said it's going to watch to see if the Pound ceases to be a significant reserve currency over this.	Jul 05 01:09
cubexyz	they could reverse Brexit if they really wanted to	Jul 05 01:09
DaemonFC	cubexyz, I guess they could. Article 50 hasn't been invoked yet, but some of the other member countries just want them to leave as quickly as possible.	Jul 05 01:09
cubexyz	have parliament vote on it	Jul 05 01:10
DaemonFC	bbl	Jul 05 01:11
DaemonFC	Time to go catch my train	Jul 05 01:11
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cubexyz	bah, even kobo isn't 100% foss	Jul 05 01:14
schestowitz	of course not..	Jul 05 01:20
schestowitz	few things are these days	Jul 05 01:20
schestowitz	hybrids	Jul 05 01:20
schestowitz	was kobo canadian?	Jul 05 01:20
cubexyz	yes	Jul 05 01:20
schestowitz	i remember reading something in cnet about it years ago	Jul 05 01:21
cubexyz	well, I guess now it's a subsidiary of Rakuten in Japan	Jul 05 01:21
cubexyz	but the headquarters is still in Toronto	Jul 05 01:21
cubexyz	I don't really have a good ereader device	Jul 05 01:22
cubexyz	also there's Kobo Arc which runs Android...	Jul 05 01:23
cubexyz	a bit pricey though	Jul 05 01:24
cubexyz	the old one was Kobo Vox, maybe I could get a used one cheap	Jul 05 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines	PC-BSD's Lumina Desktop Now In Beta For v1.0	Jul 05 02:56
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DaemonFC	A guy tried to mug us on the way back from the fireworks.	Jul 05 05:18
DaemonFC	They do something to piss you off so you'll chase them down an alley.	Jul 05 05:18
DaemonFC	This guy got in John's face and smacked his drink out of his hand and then ran off. Then when he realized we weren't chasing him, he started shouting at us.	Jul 05 05:18
DaemonFC	I asked John who would be dumb enough to go chase them down a dark alley. He said foreign tourists.	Jul 05 05:19
DaemonFC	Okay, I think Valve is playing "Let's see how many times we can update Steam for no reason this week." again.	Jul 05 05:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #thanks for sharing about ecommerce, have a	Jul 05 06:17
TweetTuxMachines	great Tuesday :) (Want this 🆓? >>	Jul 05 06:17
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TweetTuxMachines	Managing your containers at Google scale	Jul 05 11:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RCnnqbbL1Q (opensource.com)	Jul 05 11:05
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Manage your Linux containers like Google \| Opensource.com		Jul 05 11:05
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu Touch OTA-13 to Introduce a New Power...'		Jul 05 11:05
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/750270106618310656	Jul 05 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: "don't use a proprietary OS like iOS" esp. if you're a #FOSS evangelist & founder of a successful #GNU/#Linux distro https://t.co/vDTlDHueKv		Jul 05 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Security Tips Every Signal User Should Know https://t.co/iMUvan23KQ number one should be, don't use a proprietary OS like iOS		Jul 05 11:09
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Parsix GNU/Linux 8.10 and 8.5 Get the Latest...'		Jul 05 11:35
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'PCLinuxOS 64 2016.07 MATE Edition Lands with Linux...'		Jul 05 11:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750276816489811968	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Officially Released, Available for	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	Download Now https://t.co/wZjj5dtyMX (news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 11:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Officially Released, Available for Download Now		Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750277331051225088	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	Debian 8 Gets New Kernel Update, Five Vulnerabilities and	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	a Regression Patched https://t.co/VQuyRGsjJj	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 11:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Debian 8 Gets New Kernel Update, Five Vulnerabilities and a Regression Patched		Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750277690075283456	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	Exton\|Defender OS Rebased on Fedora 24, Gets Cinnamon	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	3.0.6 & Linux Kernel 4.6.3 https://t.co/XPAP2PsmnU	Jul 05 11:49
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 11:49
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Exton\|Defender OS Rebased on Fedora 24, Gets Cinnamon 3.0.6 & Linux Kernel 4.6.3		Jul 05 11:49
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Officially Released, Available for...'		Jul 05 11:49
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Debian 8 Gets New Kernel Update, Five Vulnerabilities...'		Jul 05 11:49
schestowitz	http://commondreams.org/newswire/2016/07/01/strike-nearly-1000-trump-taj-mahal-workers-walk-job-ahead-atlantic-citys-biggest	Jul 05 12:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-commondreams.org \| STRIKE! Nearly 1,000 Trump Taj Mahal Workers Walk-Off Job Ahead of Atlantic City’s Biggest Weekend of the Year \| Common Dreams \| Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community		Jul 05 12:10
schestowitz	"The strike at the Trump Taj Mahal— a casino owned by billionaire Carl Icahn — follows on the heels of tentative agreements with the Tropicana and Caesars Entertainment, which owns Atlantic City’s Caesars, Harrah’s and Bally’s."	Jul 05 12:10
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Exton\|Defender OS Rebased on Fedora 24, Gets Cinnamon...'		Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750296094026919936	Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	#BleachBit 1.12 Free System Cleaner Brings Support for	Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	#Ubuntu 16.04, #Fedora 24 https://t.co/2TaAHoqO89	Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| BleachBit 1.12 Free System Cleaner Brings Support for Ubuntu 16.04, Fedora 24		Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750296663152033793	Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	Lumenera Corporation Announces the Release of Their	Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	‘Lumenera Linux SDK 2.1’ https://t.co/YWneqp8HGe	Jul 05 12:54
TweetTuxMachines	(www.pressreleaserocket.net)	Jul 05 12:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pressreleaserocket.net \| Lumenera Corporation Announces the Release of Their ‘Lumenera Linux SDK 2.1’ - Press Release Rocket		Jul 05 12:54
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited '#BleachBit 1.12 Free System Cleaner Brings Support for...'		Jul 05 13:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750305392492699648	Jul 05 13:33
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour	Jul 05 13:33
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pqaf2aDjty (linuxblog.darkduck.com)	Jul 05 13:33
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxblog.darkduck.com \| Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour - Linux notes from DarkDuck		Jul 05 13:33
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750306029053747204	Jul 05 13:33
TweetTuxMachines	Installation Guide of Linux Mint 18 Codename ‘Sarah’ with	Jul 05 13:33
TweetTuxMachines	Screenshots https://t.co/w1D9DKkoqO (www.tecmint.com)	Jul 05 13:33
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com \| Installation Guide of Linux Mint 18 Codename 'Sarah' with Screenshots		Jul 05 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750306676629204993	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	Planet Centauri, another 2D sandbox RPG with crafting	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	available for Linux https://t.co/bv7rrWgYxX	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Planet Centauri, another 2D sandbox RPG with crafting available for Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750307636634066944	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	Humble Store is doing a DRM-Freedom sale with some great	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	Linux deals https://t.co/gSHN2916Uw	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Humble Store is doing a DRM-Freedom sale with some great Linux deals \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750308507111530496	Jul 05 13:42
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.7 https://t.co/mwNHZwfi0L (jriddell.org)	Jul 05 13:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Jj38QhMpiO (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 05 13:42
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org \| Plasma Wayland Image Update \| Jonathan Riddell's Diary		Jul 05 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma 5.7 Due Today, A Video About It & More - Phoronix		Jul 05 13:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750308793343414272	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	KDE neon 5.7 https://t.co/uTroUC55W5 (jriddell.org)	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org \| KDE neon 5.7 \| Jonathan Riddell's Diary		Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309015238959104	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.7 Release https://t.co/KllwEbeGLA	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.kde.org)	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kde.org \| KDE - KDE Plasma 5.7 Release		Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309563338031104	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Libertine: Allowing X11 Debian Packages To Run On The	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Next-Gen Ubuntu Desktop https://t.co/fAdKGCm43h	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Libertine: Allowing X11 Debian Packages To Run On The Next-Gen Ubuntu Desktop - Phoronix		Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309767327805441	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3RHLwPWeur (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309768040853504	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/lp8yBxBuOf	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309768800063488	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/L8Vs1bOb11	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309769508823040	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.7 Release https://t.co/5kMBgaS4lj	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 13:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| KDE Plasma 5.7 Release \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 13:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750309770255437824	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Debian https://t.co/cYqKyuLk6A	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Debian \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750310878420037632	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu’s Snap Arrives on Arch’s Community Repo	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e9C1MLyE0F (news.tecmint.com)	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 14:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tecmint.com \| Ubuntu's Snap Arrives on Arch's Community Repo		Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750311366808989696	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	Samsung begins Production of Tizen Z2 Smartphone, October	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	2016 release date https://t.co/fhNcg53RWa	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jul 05 14:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 14:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750320970829799424	Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	Links 5/7/2016: KDE Plasma 5.7 Released, GSK Demystified	Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OoHVy6XTOX (techrights.org)	Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 15:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 5/7/2016: KDE Plasma 5.7 Released, GSK Demystified \| Techrights		Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750333529100161024	Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/uW54H61LcK	Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 15:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750333530299772928	Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	Android Security https://t.co/BDjljrBKZE	Jul 05 15:20
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 15:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750333531721576452	Jul 05 16:37
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/zLuhgCL0zv	Jul 05 16:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 16:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 16:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 16:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750333532485013504	Jul 05 16:37
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/Lr7ySCDtql	Jul 05 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 05 16:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 05 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750352322962808833	Jul 05 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat Wants To Repeat The Magic of Linux With	Jul 05 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	Containers https://t.co/4teFzHYAJH (www.forbes.com)	Jul 05 16:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Forbes Welcome		Jul 05 16:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750352926116290564	Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	AMD has you covered: Its new Linux graphics driver	Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	already supports the Radeon RX 480	Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/FR6xopkEKp (www.pcworld.com)	Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD has you covered: Its new Linux graphics driver already supports the Radeon RX 480 \| PCWorld		Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750356513974259713	Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	digiKam 5.0.0 Powerful Image Editor Officially Released,	Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	Ported to Qt5 https://t.co/s6TYZgja25	Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 16:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| digiKam 5.0.0 Powerful Image Editor Officially Released, Ported to Qt5		Jul 05 16:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750356814391369728	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Plasma 5.7 coverage https://t.co/02E1B98GCa	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	(dot.kde.org) https://t.co/tn9eSlpdJh	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/zB4HgLQfcQ	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 05 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| KDE Plasma 5.7 \| KDE.news		Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Plasma 5.7 Officially Released with Great Wayland Improvements, Many Changes		Jul 05 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Neon 5.7 Lets You Taste the New KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop Environment, Qt 5.7		Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750357676727631872	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	The State of Flatpak In GNOME Software	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1IkwnEs494 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The State of Flatpak In GNOME Software - Phoronix		Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750359889030111232	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 KDE - Really nice and cool	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/u95zNomrfy (www.dedoimedo.com)	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dedoimedo.com \| Lenovo G50 & CentOS 7.2 KDE - Really nice and cool		Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750360092097273856	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	KDE neon Adds KDE Games https://t.co/oXLFv6Py6W	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	(jriddell.org)	Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 17:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org \| KDE neon Adds KDE Games \| Jonathan Riddell's Diary		Jul 05 17:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750360624287318016	Jul 05 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	Animations on lock screen – Plasma Wallpaper support	Jul 05 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QFNpVqBV9Y (blog.martin-graesslin.com) "With	Jul 05 17:11
TweetTuxMachines	Plasma 5.7 released I’m allowed to blog..."	Jul 05 17:11
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*TweetTuxMachines @bart00_ retweeted @tuxmachines: 'digiKam 5.0.0 Powerful Image Editor Officially Released, Ported...'		Jul 05 17:11
*TweetTuxMachines @bart00_ favourited 'digiKam 5.0.0 Powerful Image Editor Officially Released, Ported...'		Jul 05 17:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750364776086302720	Jul 05 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	E-Shelter Offers Up Managed Ubuntu OpenStack Through	Jul 05 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	Canonical https://t.co/cxim4DOiUi	Jul 05 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techweekeurope.co.uk)	Jul 05 17:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techweekeurope.co.uk \| E-Shelter Offers Up Managed Ubuntu OpenStack Through Canonical		Jul 05 17:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750365310671265792	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	Defect Launches on Windows, Mac, Linux on July 26, 2016	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/jB4FpCOLkX (www.gamasutra.com)	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gamasutra - Press Releases - Defect Launches on Windows, Mac, Linux on July 26, 2016		Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750367133599723520	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24 - It isn't for everybody, but then, it doesn't	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	try to be https://t.co/FINOz7JFKi (error)	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.		Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750373489501241344	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	Software development kit from Lumenera supports Linux	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	ARM-based processors	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/1DjnkXdGVo (www.vision-systems.com)	Jul 05 18:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 05 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vision-systems.com \| Software development kit from Lumenera supports Linux ARM-based processors - Vision Systems Design		Jul 05 18:39
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'KDE Plasma 5.7 coverage https://t.co/02E1B98GCa https://t.co/tn9eSlpdJh https://t.co/zB4HgLQfcQ'		Jul 05 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dot.kde.org \| KDE Plasma 5.7 \| KDE.news		Jul 05 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Plasma 5.7 Officially Released with Great Wayland Improvements, Many Changes		Jul 05 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| KDE Neon 5.7 Lets You Taste the New KDE Plasma 5.7 Desktop Environment, Qt 5.7		Jul 05 18:40
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DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYacdfsORec	Jul 05 19:30
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cubexyz	the win2k screen saver uses opengl	Jul 05 19:54
cubexyz	I wonder if I can compile that code on linux	Jul 05 19:55
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'digiKam 5.0.0 Powerful Image Editor Officially Released, Ported...'		Jul 05 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750406389168734209	Jul 05 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	IoT reference design brings ARM and open source tools to	Jul 05 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	Sigfox nodes https://t.co/49XjDCiBef	Jul 05 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.electronicsweekly.com) https://t.co/qRpqe2342q	Jul 05 20:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.telecomengine.com)	Jul 05 20:11
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SebthreeBQM10HD	hi	Jul 05 20:18
razielle_tzu	o/	Jul 05 20:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, hi	Jul 05 20:18
razielle_tzu	how are you?	Jul 05 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	ok you?	Jul 05 20:19
razielle_tzu	pretty good	Jul 05 20:19
cubexyz	what does BQM10HD mean?	Jul 05 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	cataching up on a TV show	Jul 05 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	only about two days left on the thing	Jul 05 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, its the Ubuntu tablet I am using	Jul 05 20:20
cubexyz	ah	Jul 05 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	BQ company	Jul 05 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	type of tablet M10	Jul 05 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	and there's two versions of the M10 the Full HD in black, and the HD in Whie	Jul 05 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	using the HD, will buy the FHD later on this year as well :/)	Jul 05 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	the HD being the version that isn't quite as good as the other one or so they say	Jul 05 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, who am I?	Jul 05 20:22
razielle_tzu	the last time we spoke you had joined with the name sebsebseb	Jul 05 20:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, h eh yeah my usual name	Jul 05 20:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I guess not as much now since	Jul 05 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	using the tablet mostly for IRC	Jul 05 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	etc	Jul 05 20:23
razielle_tzu	fair enough	Jul 05 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	f thoug	Jul 05 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm	Jul 05 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	did that come out in lots of white space?	Jul 05 20:24
razielle_tzu	there was some yeah	Jul 05 20:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah some issue with the irc client etc	Jul 05 20:25
razielle_tzu	which client?	Jul 05 20:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	sucky xchat gnome, but done the interesting UBuntu tablet way	Jul 05 20:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	as in I am running a standard ARM program	Jul 05 20:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	instead of native	Jul 05 20:26
razielle_tzu	ah, yeah the arm version of xchat can be kinda buggy	Jul 05 20:26
*SebthreeBQM10HD thought Libertine was more interesting when he thought it was standard Desktop Linux programs from the normal computer, but no they are arm ports		Jul 05 20:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	there's a thing in Ubuntu Touch calld Libertine which uses the xmir to bring Firefox and Libre OFfice and what not over	Jul 05 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it's a bit of a sucky client really, I prefer Konversation	Jul 05 20:27
razielle_tzu	i usually use either quassel or irssi	Jul 05 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	maybe I could run that, but would need to do hacking to Libertine or whatever at the moment still	Jul 05 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah quassel is ok to, but still prefer konversation	Jul 05 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway thoght I would come to IRC since there's a council meeting going on for my other distro	Jul 05 20:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	no I am not on the council anymore for that, but well find out things in those meetings etc	Jul 05 20:28
razielle_tzu	i have quassel installed on most of my machines and my phone, i run a core on a server to make sure i don't miss anything :D	Jul 05 20:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	what does your phone run?	Jul 05 20:29
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks this TV show isn't that good really, so good to do something else at same time really		Jul 05 20:29
DaemonFC	hexchat maybe?	Jul 05 20:29
razielle_tzu	a ROM called NightOwl	Jul 05 20:29
*SebthreeBQM10HD has a little brother that likes it a lot though		Jul 05 20:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	a ROM oh, what's NightOWL then? based on Android or ?	Jul 05 20:30
razielle_tzu	yeah, android	Jul 05 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I think something like Ubuntu Touch that's interesting hope that becomes more of a thing	Jul 05 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	however actusally Android hmm	Jul 05 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	well some intereinsg things have happended since Android as well	Jul 05 20:30
razielle_tzu	it is but for the models of phone i have there's no installer image, just prebuilt testers	Jul 05 20:30
razielle_tzu	so touch is useless to me for the most part	Jul 05 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I got a awesome chinese/hong kong gaming tablet quite recently that runs Android with their stuff	Jul 05 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	you have tried UBuntu Touch on something?	Jul 05 20:31
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SebthreeBQM10HD	indeed it's the BQ or Meizu phones or sticking Ubuntu Touch on a Nexu 7 for example if got	Jul 05 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	a guy is porting it to the one pluss three as well	Jul 05 20:31
razielle_tzu	yeah, i tested it on my Tab2 and my s3 mini but both weere only dev/tester builds. no option to install and config for my own use	Jul 05 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh got a s3 mini as well :)	Jul 05 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah I got one of those but that wa since the nexus 7 or whatever sold out at the time so I went for that instead	Jul 05 20:32
razielle_tzu	my main phone is the Note	Jul 05 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	my main phone since some time last year has been the Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu Edition :)	Jul 05 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I don't need to run lots of apps on a smart phone, so that's fine	Jul 05 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	and got computer, and other devices	Jul 05 20:34
razielle_tzu	i don't use my phone for much any more, just keeping in contact with people and maybe as an e-reader if my kindle is dead	Jul 05 20:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah bingo	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, got a computer yep, two even sure maybe more een if old ones that don't quite work count ok	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	got four smart phones	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	five	Jul 05 20:41
razielle_tzu	i've got about 7 computers i can use and tw osmart phones	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	well the S3 Mini	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	old one	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	BQ E5 Ubuntu Ediiton	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	4.5 I mean	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	first commerical Ubuntu phone that one. thought I had lost htat but turned up earlier htis year so :)	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	a Firefox phone yep as well. and a jolla phone that should do more with again really	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	old nokia or two I guess some where if that counts, even a old Android 2 phone someon gave me, a old nokia tablet soene gave me evne, not using those two devices really	Jul 05 20:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	the old net book yep	Jul 05 20:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	an IPad Air which needs my guy to look at it again and fix it up hardware issues, the screen had cracked. I got the intreing Remix OS tablet and remix minis. I got the chip glad I crowd funded that	Jul 05 20:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	an oldish android tablet that some charging issue so can't really use that.	Jul 05 20:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	and this Android gaming tablet thing. etc etc yep yep who needs a pc now, not so much me, who needs a phone not me	Jul 05 20:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I mainly use a phone to call and textk, and little web browsing at times	Jul 05 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	so Ubuntu Phone is more than fine for that	Jul 05 20:45
razielle_tzu	i prefer a computer to a tablet most of the time	Jul 05 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	well I got the Logitech k480	Jul 05 20:45
razielle_tzu	if i'm going anywhere for more than a few hours i take one of my laptops with me	Jul 05 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	blueetooth keyboard which is really nice, has a thing to put the tablet so it's a stand, and the keyboard is great, that's the black one, but I will buy the white one as well	Jul 05 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	the net book wasn't to bad to take around, but has some hardware issus really, so that just stays here	Jul 05 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	the HP lap top I have as a newer lap top is well more big and bulky	Jul 05 20:46
razielle_tzu	i'm partial to my ibm thinkpad T60	Jul 05 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	even going up and down the stairs in the house with lap tops is annoying enough, I like lite wiaght etc	Jul 05 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	up and down the stairs or out and about with a Ubuntu tablet and the LOgitech k480 much better	Jul 05 20:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I think a computer an actsual computer x86/x864 yes 32bit or 64bit	Jul 05 20:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	is only really needed for more specific things	Jul 05 20:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	otherwise tabets and even smart phones are fine now	Jul 05 20:47
razielle_tzu	they are, all i said was that i prefer a computer to a tablet most of the time	Jul 05 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, if you want to virtual machine which I do at times, operating systems made for a PC, wel then your going to need a PC really for example	Jul 05 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	if your doing Cad or some prper graphics desing or something then your better off on a PC really	Jul 05 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	but for web browsing, email, IRC, listening to musich, watching video, you should be fine on a tablet or even smart phone	Jul 05 20:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I mostly do basic things	Jul 05 20:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	well ok I am going to start play8ing more games at times it seems older games, since I got that gaming tablet, but with the exception of that, I am mostly doing basic things. I do use Virtualbox for fun or to try out some os at itmes though	Jul 05 20:50
cubexyz	I miss the X11 part with streamers/tablets	Jul 05 20:50
cubexyz	one of the old zauruses had X11	Jul 05 20:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz what do you mean or reffering to ?	Jul 05 20:51
cubexyz	X11... the X window system	Jul 05 20:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh that's still in tablets or uhmm	Jul 05 20:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	well	Jul 05 20:52
cubexyz	you know, that thing MIT invented? :)	Jul 05 20:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	ok Jolla tablet a few lucky few got that, but the phone uses wayland	Jul 05 20:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	Ubuntu tablet has Mir	Jul 05 20:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	and phone	Jul 05 20:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	Desktop Linux is still mostly xorg for now, but things are going towards Wayland for most	Jul 05 20:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	and some that aren't Ubuntu will go Mir as well I guess	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	yep xorg is on it's way out	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	but slowly	Jul 05 20:54
cubexyz	ah, I'd disagree with you there	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, apparntly it's not so secure now as well, shows it's age etc	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	doesn't work so well security wise with Ubuntu snaps for example	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	even the xorg developers them selves are trying to replace it they started Wayland	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz Fedora Core 1 is old skool as well	Jul 05 20:58
cubexyz	do you think all the X11 window managers will be re-written? I doubt it	Jul 05 20:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, nope old things will die	Jul 05 20:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	or	Jul 05 20:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	find a way to live on some how, via I don't know xmir maybe	Jul 05 20:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	and something for wyaland to	Jul 05 20:59
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razielle_tzu	there are still plenty of people that use X11 in their day to day work and a compositor isn't always going to be able to provide the same functionality	Jul 05 21:00
cubexyz	NASA uses X11 :)	Jul 05 21:01
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, cubexyz most distros for now still use X11, but it on the verge of being replaced by default with Wayland or Mir	Jul 05 21:01
razielle_tzu	most are going to go with Wayland over Mir	Jul 05 21:01
razielle_tzu	afaik only Ubuntu and maybe some of its spin-offs are going with Mir	Jul 05 21:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yep I have put stuff like that to	Jul 05 21:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	I just did as well or soething	Jul 05 21:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	most will go to Wayland	Jul 05 21:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	only Ubuntu will do Mir and a few based on it possibly	Jul 05 21:02
cubexyz	that's a very Linux-centric viewpoint, I have to support quite a number of bsd boxes...	Jul 05 21:04
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, we were talking Linux werne't we	Jul 05 21:04
razielle_tzu	i use free- and pc-bsd from time to time too	Jul 05 21:04
SebthreeBQM10HD	BSD wil have x11 or wahtever sure	Jul 05 21:04
cubexyz	I was talking about X11	Jul 05 21:04
razielle_tzu	bsd won't move from X11 for a long time to come	Jul 05 21:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess Wayland can come to BSD as well	Jul 05 21:05
razielle_tzu	wayland or another compositor would likely be an optional install for specific DEs, whereas most users of BSD would still be using X11 (if they use anything but TTYs) for most things	Jul 05 21:07
cubexyz	well, I guess the distro maintainers will decide what they'll do	Jul 05 21:08
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 05 21:09
cubexyz	I'm not porting Wayland to FC1, I know that :)	Jul 05 21:12
razielle_tzu	i wouldn't either	Jul 05 21:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	not many use FC1 stil but that guy does	Jul 05 21:13
cubexyz	would you play Scarlatti sonatas on a piano? :)	Jul 05 21:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	no sinc e I don't play piano	Jul 05 21:15
cubexyz	Scarlatti composed for the hapsichord...	Jul 05 21:15
razielle_tzu	Scarlatti sounds horrible on the piano	Jul 05 21:17
cubexyz	well you know how it is... I didn't like Gnome 3 and I didn't really like KDE 4	Jul 05 21:18
cubexyz	so perhaps one can understand why I don't automatically switch to the newest thing	Jul 05 21:19
razielle_tzu	i prefer lxde for most of my machines	Jul 05 21:19
razielle_tzu	sometimes i3	Jul 05 21:19
cubexyz	harpsichord rather	Jul 05 21:19
razielle_tzu	the harpsichord has such a nice sound to it	Jul 05 21:20
cubexyz	sure, I'll use the new stuff but I'm keeping my old stuff	Jul 05 21:21
cubexyz	the harpsichord is making a comeback I think	Jul 05 21:22
razielle_tzu	that would be cool	Jul 05 21:22
cubexyz	Roland C-30 Digital Harpsichord :)	Jul 05 21:23
razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 05 21:23
razielle_tzu	man reddit had a field day with the wayland v mir v x11 thread	Jul 05 21:28
cubexyz	well it seems there's Xwayland so maybe it's no big deal	Jul 05 21:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Lxde why, also even that is newish, XFCE pre dates GNOME 2, GNome 2 was before lxde	Jul 05 21:41
cubexyz	well I see a lot of barking about Mir and Wayland, but I still use the old xlib function calls directly (sometimes)	Jul 05 21:42
razielle_tzu	it's not about the age, it's about the weight of it. lxde is still fairly light	Jul 05 21:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, razielle_tzu Ubuntu is going in interesting direction as is shown by these Ubuntu devices	Jul 05 21:43
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/compare-all-wms.png	Jul 05 21:45
cubexyz	still a bit on the fat size :)	Jul 05 21:45
cubexyz	mostly I use icewm	Jul 05 21:45
cubexyz	and I did try tinywm... it's awful :)	Jul 05 21:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	openbox isn't much	Jul 05 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	a black screen	Jul 05 21:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	and a right click menu	Jul 05 21:48
razielle_tzu	i know it's still a little bloated cubexyz but compared to gnome and kde it's fine :)	Jul 05 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, why don't you fancy GNOME, KDE, or guys :D ?	Jul 05 22:02
razielle_tzu	because they're all about looking pretty and adding things that distract from workflow	Jul 05 22:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	or guys :D ?	Jul 05 22:03
razielle_tzu	you know why i don't like guys	Jul 05 22:03
razielle_tzu	:P	Jul 05 22:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	no I don't	Jul 05 22:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I find Mate rather usable	Jul 05 22:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that's based on GNOME 2	Jul 05 22:04
razielle_tzu	mate is fine but i still prefer lxde or i3	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	GNOME Shell and Unity are a dab flashy	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE never been keen on that much	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but yet I got invovled with distro Mageia,w here most people into that it seems really like kde	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	they like to say when GNOME is a bit buggy in dev versions quite a few of them, dev vesions of the distro	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE is very uhmm, well it looks like WINDOWS, then geek to configure	Jul 05 22:06
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, KDE 5is probably a bit better but hmm	Jul 05 22:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	I'll agree with cubexyz thouh that Trinity is nice	Jul 05 22:07
razielle_tzu	isn't it called plasma instead of kde now?	Jul 05 22:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	the KDE 3 fork	Jul 05 22:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	sure or the interface is	Jul 05 22:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE 3 is alright, but Iprefered GNOM E 2 still at the time	Jul 05 22:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess since both Fedora and Ubuntu came with it by default so	Jul 05 22:08
razielle_tzu	i like i3 because it kind of reminds me of workbench	Jul 05 22:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	don't think I have used i3	Jul 05 22:09
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cubexyz	I use _parts_ of KDE3... kedit, klipper, konsole, kmix, krename, kalzium...	Jul 05 22:26
cubexyz	I don't bother with the KDE DE itself any more	Jul 05 22:27
razielle_tzu	yeah, some parts of it are useful but as a whole it's just.. i don't know the right word	Jul 05 22:27
cubexyz	overly elaborate...?	Jul 05 22:28
razielle_tzu	that works	Jul 05 22:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, as a whole its what	Jul 05 22:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	try and get words	Jul 05 22:29
razielle_tzu	SebthreeBQM10HD: cubexyz helped me with that as overly elaborate is a good enough description	Jul 05 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	what does that mean	Jul 05 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	in the context as well	Jul 05 22:30
razielle_tzu	as a whole KDE is distracting rather than helpful regarding workflow, it looks and feels like it's trying to do too much and gets in my way when i'm doing something, whereas some of the smaller elements on their own within another DE are really useful, such as klipper	Jul 05 22:32
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cubexyz	U of Waterloo has a nice archive of x.org going back to X10R3	Jul 05 22:55
razielle_tzu	cool, i should maybe take a look	Jul 05 22:57
cubexyz	some of it will even compile on modern linux	Jul 05 22:57
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razielle_tzu	cubexyz: you got a link to the archive? i'm not finding it :(	Jul 05 23:02
cubexyz	ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/x.org/	Jul 05 23:03
razielle_tzu	thanks :D	Jul 05 23:03
cubexyz	sorry, I can't compile X10R3 xclock.c, I must have compiled something newer	Jul 05 23:06
cubexyz	weird, I'm going to have to recheck this	Jul 05 23:07
razielle_tzu	i would too, not gonna try to compile anything on this machine (it's my win10 gaming one) maybe when i jump on my T60	Jul 05 23:07
cubexyz	doh, I compiled X11R6 from 1994	Jul 05 23:09
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 05 23:09
cubexyz	but xclock.c had a 1989 date in it	Jul 05 23:09
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 05 23:10
cubexyz	still wrong though... X10R3 I think is 1985/1986 era	Jul 05 23:12
razielle_tzu	they have archives for all kinds of stuff	Jul 05 23:13
cubexyz	and X10R3 xclock references Tony Della Fera from DEC	Jul 05 23:13
cubexyz	a pity, I don't think I'm going to be able to easily compile anything from that era	Jul 05 23:14
razielle_tzu	wow, i've just bookmarked the main folder of it... there are so many things to look through, not just the Xorg stuff	Jul 05 23:14
cubexyz	ha, you need to look at the _Russian_ archives then	Jul 05 23:15
razielle_tzu	if i could read them, i would :P	Jul 05 23:15
cubexyz	the Russians have the best archives for openbsd	Jul 05 23:16
razielle_tzu	tbh one of the things i would love is the Amiga stuff.. i'd love to get one of my spare laptops running Icaros and have everything i used to use on my Amigas back	Jul 05 23:16
cubexyz	http://mirror.yandex.ru/pub/OpenBSD/	Jul 05 23:17
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razielle_tzu	wow, back to 2.0	Jul 05 23:17
cubexyz	that's what I use because I still use 4.7	Jul 05 23:17
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 05 23:18
cubexyz	there's openbsd/amiga 3.2	Jul 05 23:22
razielle_tzu	that would be cool to try but what are the hardware reqs for it?	Jul 05 23:22
razielle_tzu	i don't think i've got anything i could run it on without it being a vm	Jul 05 23:22
cubexyz	ummm, A1200 with 68020+68851 or better	Jul 05 23:23
cubexyz	A3000 of course	Jul 05 23:23
razielle_tzu	yeah i'd have to try and set a vm up then, i've got no Amiga hardware better than an A600	Jul 05 23:24
cubexyz	painful :)	Jul 05 23:27
razielle_tzu	yeah i know	Jul 05 23:27
cubexyz	don't want to say impossible but very painful	Jul 05 23:27
razielle_tzu	i'd have to go searching to see if anyone else has even attempted it	Jul 05 23:28
cubexyz	there's a minix that should work, but it's pretty boring	Jul 05 23:31
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razielle_tzu	tbh i should probably check icaros out again and see what they've updated. i know i can run amiga software on it	Jul 05 23:33
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cubexyz	the old amigaos had no seperation of kernel and user spaces	Jul 05 23:43
cubexyz	don't think AROS did either	Jul 05 23:44
cubexyz	s/seperation/separation/	Jul 05 23:44
razielle_tzu	i'm not sure. i do know i liked icaros but can't remember why i stopped using it	Jul 05 23:46
cubexyz	I fear it's because there's no MMU support	Jul 05 23:50
razielle_tzu	i think it was because i was struggling to get a few things working at the time and setting it up to dual boot was a PITA	Jul 05 23:50
cubexyz	even 1960s mainframes usually had some sort of MMU	Jul 05 23:52
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cubexyz	even the Commodorer 128 had the 8722 MMU	Jul 05 23:55
cubexyz	a pity the way home computers went...	Jul 05 23:55
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cubexyz	the amiga 500/600 was almost an orphan...	Jul 06 00:00
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cubexyz	bought my amiga 500 in 1987 and by 1994 commodore went belly up	Jul 06 00:01
cubexyz	for Unix on Amiga you probably need a Amiga 2500 or 3000	Jul 06 00:02
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cubexyz	honestly even though amigas had great games, it was not as fun for hacking on	Jul 06 00:10
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razielle_tzu	i learned a lot on the amiga, and later applied it to ms-dos	Jul 06 00:26
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cubexyz	the thing with Unix is it's not really simple	Jul 06 01:22
cubexyz	it's multiuser, MMU memory/resource protected, complex	Jul 06 01:23
razielle_tzu	i know	Jul 06 01:23
cubexyz	so there is a rather big learning curve there	Jul 06 01:23
cubexyz	I didn't appreciate Unix when I was younger	Jul 06 01:23
razielle_tzu	i liked shelldos and made a lot of changes to my fave games and an early version of workbench	Jul 06 01:23
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cubexyz	but (and this is a big one) AmigaDOS wasn't FOSS	Jul 06 01:26
cubexyz	Unix v6 was FOSS	Jul 06 01:26
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 06 01:26
cubexyz	so the old guard running Unix v5/v6 etc on PDP-11 had the advantage in access	Jul 06 01:27
razielle_tzu	well yeah but at that point for me the computers were bought by my dad or given to us by his neighbour and we had no net access	Jul 06 01:28
razielle_tzu	so it was an amiga 500+ (later an A1200) and some old 386 running ms-dos with some atronomy programs and games	Jul 06 01:29
razielle_tzu	*astronomy	Jul 06 01:29
cubexyz	what year?	Jul 06 01:29
razielle_tzu	so i learned to modify my fave games on the amiga and play with workbench	Jul 06 01:29
razielle_tzu	i can't remember, it would have been erly 90s though	Jul 06 01:30
razielle_tzu	*early	Jul 06 01:30
razielle_tzu	i used to obsess over the amiga magazines looking for things to do or modify and carried on even after commodore tanked	Jul 06 01:32
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razielle_tzu	94 upset me for a couple of reasons	Jul 06 01:34
cubexyz	there was hwgunix.lib for amiga from lattice C	Jul 06 01:34
cubexyz	that would have helped one get into Unix... you would be able to port stuff to amigados	Jul 06 01:34
cubexyz	I've been looking for that for a long time	Jul 06 01:35
razielle_tzu	if i'd have been older and had more say in what happened with the computers i'd have gotten into unix but as it stood i had to deal with my dad becoming a microsoft fan boy and not getting into alternatives to ms-dos or windows until my early to mid-teens	Jul 06 01:36
razielle_tzu	when i found a linux cd at my school :D	Jul 06 01:36
cubexyz	trying to remember where hwgunix.lib was from, it might have been GNU	Jul 06 01:38
razielle_tzu	yeah it's GNU	Jul 06 01:39
razielle_tzu	it's in the util/gnu category on aminet	Jul 06 01:40
razielle_tzu	quick search for it and only get 6 results xD	Jul 06 01:41
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cubexyz	ok, yeah there was a Berkeley Yacc port to Amiga	Jul 06 01:45
cubexyz	LALR parsers...	Jul 06 01:47
razielle_tzu	i miss my amiga but it's in storage right now...	Jul 06 01:48
cubexyz	this was with SAS C v.6 or something	Jul 06 01:48
cubexyz	but it's better to learn the original Bell Labs Unix I think	Jul 06 01:48
cubexyz	byacc was around 1996 or so	Jul 06 01:49
razielle_tzu	fair. i'm trying to decide on what os to play with and learn more about. i have a few computers with linux on but that doesn't appeal to me right now, windows has nothing to offer really and bsd is the only other one i can think of that my T60 will play nicely with	Jul 06 01:50
cubexyz	BSD is closer to traditional Unix than Linux is	Jul 06 01:52
razielle_tzu	i know, i'm kinda leaning towards learning BSD but i can't decide on what flavour	Jul 06 01:53
cubexyz	openbsd is a nice modern Unix, but I really liked Bell Labs Unix	Jul 06 01:59
razielle_tzu	i think openbsd is the one flavour i've not tried properly yet	Jul 06 01:59
razielle_tzu	out of the current four anyway	Jul 06 02:00
cubexyz	I think openbsd has the best release model, and it's more secure	Jul 06 02:13
cubexyz	it's not a big desktop OS though	Jul 06 02:13
razielle_tzu	i'm not neccessarily after a desktop style OS, just one i can play with and learn about, preferably on hardware instead of in a vm. i'm starting a BSc in computing in october and want to do some of my own research and learning before i start that	Jul 06 02:15
razielle_tzu	also it would be cool to learn something besides Linux as a server os, i'm tempted to change the os on a server i have from ubuntu server to something else but haven't decided what to replace it with yet	Jul 06 02:17
cubexyz	go for the $$$ and write android apps :)	Jul 06 02:31
cubexyz	google and paypal are like best buddies now	Jul 06 02:31
razielle_tzu	i'm more interested in doing the linux and CCNA modules the course offers though	Jul 06 02:31
razielle_tzu	i can learn to write android apps in my spare time	Jul 06 02:32
razielle_tzu	somewhere i still have the windows installer for the android SDK and i can easily install it on my linux laptops too	Jul 06 02:40
razielle_tzu	i keep forgetting to reinstall parts of it for ADB	Jul 06 02:41
razielle_tzu	lol, someone is claiming you can parse HTML with regex	Jul 06 03:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750603024830230529	Jul 06 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	4 open source tools I used to write a Linux book	Jul 06 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3bWinLAFDS (opensource.com)	Jul 06 09:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to write a book with open source tools \| Opensource.com		Jul 06 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609428785737728	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	Nextcloud 9 Released https://t.co/FriMUTFEq2	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609429574217728	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	When Linux is the face of kindness	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GWVwQ73vT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609430274715648	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	4 open source tools I used to write a Linux book	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ukhu6Gyfww (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609430941544450	Jul 06 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	Vista 10 (Windows 10) and Linux https://t.co/ugVvSRM4SJ	Jul 06 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 10:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609431621021696	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Security Leftovers https://t.co/xtXhp2EKmU	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750619107737952256	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Links 6/7/2016: KDE Plasma 5.7, DigiKam 5.0	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wtnaV34Odj (techrights.org)	Jul 06 10:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750632461839675392	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/669QJmHrg1	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 12:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750632462535970816	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/PbYjM3Kye7	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 12:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750648913410068480	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	Review: Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS shines	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mEn5EjqNQt (www.infoworld.com)	Jul 06 14:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Review: Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS shines \| InfoWorld		Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	@faseidl http://twitter.com/faseidl/status/750663631487000576	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	FAScination Daily: #OpenSource is out!	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gFOookCFaK (opensource.faseidl.com) #oss	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	#foss #software Stories via @fth_nix @booksprint	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines	Jul 06 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.faseidl.com \| FAScination Daily: Open Source		Jul 06 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678721330241536	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	Review: Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS shines	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UOY0GLZCHv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Review: Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS shines \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678722412371972	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released https://t.co/aMOHCfWnff	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 14:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678723452477440	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	Hands-On: Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 https://t.co/PkShyoHBIv	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678724559773696	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	Who needs a GUI? How to live in a Linux terminal.	Jul 06 14:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pmG9yAzvFZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 14:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750678725725872132	Jul 06 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	Smart Hub Preview Released for Tizen TV SDK 2.3.1	Jul 06 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WnjNKewCAU (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 16:25
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/getArastta/status/750735503989800960	Jul 06 18:04
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Metztli_IT/status/750662179490107392	Jul 06 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Metztli_IT: Fixing #neoliberal @el_pais' heading to #Corruption in '#Mexico' AND #Spain👈lacks moral auth https://t.co/w8NZ0oC0CG https://t.co/AIu0NH4yLr		Jul 06 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> elpais.com \| Corruption in Mexico: How the Mexican Embassy in Spain pulled out all stops to free ex-official \| In English \| EL PAÍS		Jul 06 18:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Expect Lionel #Messi not serve any time behind bars. Same for #clinton and #blair who openly supported #petraeus when he was found guilty.		Jul 06 18:06
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/750662270502440960	Jul 06 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: Illegal surveillance in EPO passively accepted by the ‘Administrative’ Council of EPO @reportrai3 @sole24ore https://t.co/6rstCIO4xr		Jul 06 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @KrapulaPhD The ‘Administrative’ Council is to Benoît Battistelli What FISA is to the NSA https://t.co/gFtRV0ikrn		Jul 06 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750758813372997632	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux to be bundled as preferred OS with Pivotal	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud Foundry app platform https://t.co/PAEcEq9jWc	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.v3.co.uk) https://t.co/eHAHUV327q	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterprisetech.com)	Jul 06 19:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk \| Ubuntu Linux to be bundled as preferred OS with Pivotal Cloud Foundry app platform \| V3		Jul 06 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com \| Pivotal Adds Ubuntu to Cloud Foundry		Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750763605965037568	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	"It looks like AMD has finally got the memo when it comes	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	to Linux machines." https://t.co/JjdSyoA7jw	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.fudzilla.com)	Jul 06 19:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fudzilla.com \| AMD improves its Linux drivers		Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750764636685885440	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released https://t.co/vG1NcU4P6w	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jul 06 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released - Tizen Experts		Jul 06 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750764810036514816	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Hands-On: Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 https://t.co/1Prm31yWnv	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Jul 06 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands-On: Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 \| ZDNet		Jul 06 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750765101179871232	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Who needs a GUI? How to live in a Linux terminal.	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O0LE2LPe6Y (www.networkworld.com)	Jul 06 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750765277764345856	Jul 06 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	Smart Hub Preview Released for Tizen TV SDK 2.3.1	Jul 06 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tVenVYBWB5 (www.tizenexperts.com)	Jul 06 20:07
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Smart Hub Preview Released for Tizen TV SDK 2.3.1 - Tizen Experts		Jul 06 20:07
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750768101105557504	Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	Android Nougat review - hands on, how to get it, best	Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	features, release date https://t.co/Ft5XmuFCNd	Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	(www.expertreviews.co.uk)	Jul 06 20:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.expertreviews.co.uk \| Android Nougat review - hands on, how to get it, best features, release date \| Expert Reviews		Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750768660499816448	Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	RPi-based music player has touchscreen and high-end DACs	Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Z46ypVJbub (hackerboards.com)	Jul 06 20:15
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750769804022312960	Jul 06 20:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com \| RPi-based music player has touchscreen and high-end DACs		Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	Doing for User Space What We Did for Kernel Space	Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/oVGFoUKxZ8 (www.linuxjournal.com)	Jul 06 20:15
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxjournal.com \| Doing for User Space What We Did for Kernel Space \| Linux Journal		Jul 06 20:15
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750769999581679616	Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Edu / Skolelinux Jessie https://t.co/QMtdaqd75K	Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	(lwn.net)	Jul 06 20:44
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750770283477368836	Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	uNav GPS Navigation App for Ubuntu Phones Now Offers	Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	Offline Maps, Convergence https://t.co/lbE2uoVE3V	Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 06 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| uNav GPS Navigation App for Ubuntu Phones Now Offers Offline Maps, Convergence		Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750776593551912960	Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	Sven Co-op, a co-operative game originally based around	Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	Half-Life now on Linux in Alpha https://t.co/eOlOt2r7Ra	Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 06 20:44
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sven Co-op, a co-operative game originally based around Half-Life now on Linux in Alpha \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 06 20:44
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750778030872813568	Jul 06 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S6Q8FdvuNu (news.softpedia.com)	Jul 06 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750778197634125825	Jul 06 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	GNOME Calendar Will Support Alarms, GNOME Software to	Jul 06 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	Better Handle Flatpaks https://t.co/S6Q8FdvuNu	Jul 06 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 06 21:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750779788911083520	Jul 06 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	The State Of Systemd In Debian (2016)	Jul 06 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/vuGn9Z2mQ3 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 06 21:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The State Of Systemd In Debian (2016) - Phoronix		Jul 06 21:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750780600949309440	Jul 06 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	Qt Creator 4.1.0 Beta released https://t.co/iRL1CCFpkr	Jul 06 21:01
TweetTuxMachines	(blog.qt.io)	Jul 06 21:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750781494134792192	Jul 06 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Valve Is Working On Team Fortress 2 "Meet Your Match"	Jul 06 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YFxFvJKAO4 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 06 21:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Valve Is Working On Team Fortress 2 "Meet Your Match" - Phoronix		Jul 06 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750781681116872704	Jul 06 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	AMD's Linux Driver Will Likely See A Power Change For The	Jul 06 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	Radeon RX 480 Too https://t.co/kcSGoNruAQ	Jul 06 21:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jul 06 21:11
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD's Linux Driver Will Likely See A Power Change For The Radeon RX 480 Too - Phoronix		Jul 06 21:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750787005370535936	Jul 06 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	Why Nexus phones are now the only Android phones I	Jul 06 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	wholeheartedly recommend https://t.co/DnsPvp021I	Jul 06 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworld.com)	Jul 06 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Nexus phones are now the only Android phones I wholeheartedly recommend \| Computerworld		Jul 06 21:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750789294726455297	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat expands cloud management solution	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7zokkVA7aS (www.gdnonline.com)	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gdnonline.com \| UAE Business: Red Hat expands cloud management solution		Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750790263019335680	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	Open source SSH clients https://t.co/1OjtHYo1uO	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	(fedoramagazine.org)	Jul 06 21:37
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cubexyz	not loving the massive popup ads on computerworld	Jul 06 21:39
cubexyz	meh, just can't get enthusiastic about smartphones	Jul 06 21:41
cubexyz	not super keen on laptops either...	Jul 06 21:43
cubexyz	I do like the idea of the pitop though, you can replace parts easily	Jul 06 21:45
razielle_tzu	depends on the laptop for me... and i'd love to kack together my own pitop	Jul 06 21:46
razielle_tzu	*hack	Jul 06 21:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/750795191108431872	Jul 06 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: I wonder why Saudi royalty would like to control a Western communications company… https://t.co/eeOPJVmQYS		Jul 06 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Former FB CTO has joined #twitter which I guess explains why Twitter became more like #Facebook (horrible). Then: https://t.co/RKUQSfv1IR		Jul 06 21:58
schestowitz	Maybe blackmail by investment. See 28 pages...	Jul 06 21:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750790632063500288	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	Java Deserialization attacks on JBoss Middleware	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RO6x5LqdyW (access.redhat.com)	Jul 06 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-access.redhat.com \| Java Deserialization attacks on JBoss Middleware - Red Hat Customer Portal		Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750791193185910785	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 improves security, but at a cost	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q90YpZU7Oo (www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Mint 18 improves security, but at a cost - TechRepublic		Jul 06 22:01
*TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open source SSH clients https://t.co/1OjtHYo1uO'		Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750796765578735617	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/zefsEMq6rk	Jul 06 22:01
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TweetTuxMachines	AMD Linux News https://t.co/5YhNCFmaur	Jul 06 22:01
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TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/iKO0nJwQBe	Jul 06 22:01
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TweetTuxMachines	Security Leftovers https://t.co/wehjWW3qUJ	Jul 06 22:26
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TweetTuxMachines	Openwashing https://t.co/ZXiuVtznb5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 22:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750802908862644224	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	Taming the Chaos of Modern Caches	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mm9XgXHbGu (www.linux.com)	Jul 06 22:26
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lets9etloud1/status/750809439909736448 https://twitter.com/CaptainKurtis/status/750809507542994944	Jul 06 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lets9etloud1: @schestowitz You mean corrupt big timers n officials murdering small time pushers so they can't squeak to Duterte. #chess #strategy		Jul 06 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CaptainKurtis: @schestowitz You're forgetting @GovGaryJohnson.		Jul 06 22:54
schestowitz	The media 'forgets' him all the time	Jul 06 22:54
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/750812790110158848	Jul 06 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @tonyblairoffice @campbellclaret @schestowitz @EtonOldBoys Tony Blair The British Pol Pot #Chilcot #Blair		Jul 06 23:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/750813345712730112	Jul 06 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Surprise, surprise... https://t.co/tXcNrSUjNA		Jul 06 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tony Bliar Told George W. #Bush , “If We Win Quickly, Everyone Will Be Our Friend.” https://t.co/NzRScWfXVw what a sociopath.		Jul 06 23:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750806299810594816	Jul 06 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	New toolset makes it possible to build and ship Docker	Jul 06 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	containers within Ansible https://t.co/rn4AIG7r2J	Jul 06 23:27
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Re "If Wales can survive in the Euros do you doubt that the UK can survive outside the European Union?" https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/750598286344683520 #WALPOR		Jul 06 23:34
schestowitz	"its not about “survive” this thing was orchestrated by extremely wealthy so that they can build a trench between their wealth and the collapsing #EU."	Jul 06 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: @filemot Chris Coleman for PM? Gareth Bale as Foreign Sec? #WALPOR		Jul 06 23:34
schestowitz	"the average #British shmo is going to get bupkis out of this. #Brexit"	Jul 06 23:34
schestowitz	Depends on how one defines "average"	Jul 06 23:34
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@saveinventors: @schestowitz call those #efficientinfringers		Jul 06 23:41
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TweetTuxMachines	SUSE as Microsoft Stooge https://t.co/XjLIWMqlh9	Jul 07 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/jv6fxYoJCL	Jul 07 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines	Mint 18 - Forgetting Sarah Linux https://t.co/PVkHR4jRBL	Jul 07 00:06
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: The Two Reasons I Don’t Trust #Google With My Data https://t.co/yvvk4dn94h #facebook even worse because it sells it		Jul 07 00:35
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/D_J_M_D/status/750836398442311681	Jul 07 00:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@D_J_M_D: @schestowitz -- Do you mean @rupertmurdoch ?		Jul 07 00:42
schestowitz	No, Ian Murdock	Jul 07 00:43
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/D_J_M_D/status/750837812002430976	Jul 07 00:46
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TweetTuxMachines	Nexus 6 Is Now an Unofficial Ubuntu Phone, Wi-Fi &	Jul 07 00:56
TweetTuxMachines	Bluetooth Support Coming Soon https://t.co/5czRFYSaXN	Jul 07 00:56
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TweetTuxMachines	Mysterious death of software pioneer Ian Murdock ruled	Jul 07 00:56
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TweetTuxMachines	Running Linux on the Acer Switch Alpha 12	Jul 07 00:56
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TweetTuxMachines	Mint 18 - Forgetting Sarah Linux https://t.co/yKOkDHgOP9	Jul 07 00:56
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TweetTuxMachines	Nexus 6 Is Now an Unofficial Ubuntu Phone, Wi-Fi &	Jul 07 00:57
TweetTuxMachines	Bluetooth Support Coming Soon https://t.co/2ODbdLC6ca	Jul 07 00:57
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750840839979409408	Jul 07 00:57
TweetTuxMachines	Mysterious death of software pioneer Ian Murdock ruled	Jul 07 00:57
TweetTuxMachines	suicide https://t.co/Be9WAmXdpO (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 00:57
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cubexyz	hmmm	Jul 07 00:58
cubexyz	only 42, younger than me	Jul 07 01:00
razielle_tzu	damn	Jul 07 01:02
schestowitz	the CNN report is kind of an hogwash	Jul 07 01:07
schestowitz	doesn't say enough about the suspicious circumstances within the police	Jul 07 01:08
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 07 01:08
schestowitz	and repeats police claims, like blaming Murdock for injuring himself	Jul 07 01:08
schestowitz	as if he was some drunk depressing person	Jul 07 01:08
schestowitz	other versions of the story say he had a drink and got the wrong door, or got locked out of his own home	Jul 07 01:09
schestowitz	but anyhoo	Jul 07 01:09
schestowitz	he's dead, SF police covered its own arse again	Jul 07 01:09
schestowitz	http://twitter.com/schestowitz/status/750838251297050624	Jul 07 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Recent stories about PD that left Ian #murdock dead https://t.co/Al0eUoJFs8 https://t.co/WzwHv4OPzQ https://t.co/mbm29NdZwz #police		Jul 07 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.theguardian.com \| Police brutality and homelessness collide in aftermath of San Francisco killing \| US news \| The Guardian		Jul 07 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.sfexaminer.com \| Telling the truth about police brutality in San Francisco - The San Francisco Examiner		Jul 07 01:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.motherjones.com \| Hunger Strike in San Francisco Puts a Spotlight on Police Brutality \| Mother Jones		Jul 07 01:09
schestowitz	same PD	Jul 07 01:09
schestowitz	gn	Jul 07 01:09
cubexyz	I heard that secure boot had to be disable to install Slackware 14.2 on an UEFI machine	Jul 07 01:11
cubexyz	s/disable/disabled/	Jul 07 01:11
cubexyz	what's the point of secure boot again? :)	Jul 07 01:12
cubexyz	seems like it makes everything a pain in the butt to install except doze	Jul 07 01:14
cubexyz	you would think I'd be better with the bsd stuff by now, oh well	Jul 07 01:24
cubexyz	ok, I've knocked some of my bsd notes into shape... but only the modern bsd notes	Jul 07 01:26
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/bsd-notes.txt	Jul 07 01:26
razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 07 01:29
cubexyz	I really came from the AT&T SysV world	Jul 07 01:44
cubexyz	SCO Xenix, IRIX... that sort of thing	Jul 07 01:45
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 07 01:45
cubexyz	but nowadays it's Linux, BSD and I guess AIX	Jul 07 01:46
cubexyz	so that's a bit of a schism really	Jul 07 01:46
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 07 01:46
cubexyz	I'm not hard-line BSD, far from it	Jul 07 01:51
cubexyz	so I try to exist in the sysv world, and the BSD world	Jul 07 01:52
cubexyz	probably that's why I like slack	Jul 07 01:52
razielle_tzu	i decided, just before i fell asleep lat night, that the OS i'm gonna play with IS one of the BSDs... i just didn't make a choice on which one :P	Jul 07 01:52
cubexyz	I also like the GPL :)	Jul 07 01:52
cubexyz	well, it's good to be exposed to a bunch of different operating systems	Jul 07 01:55
razielle_tzu	i run various linux distros and windows already, i want to learn more about BSD but don't know which one to start with... all i know is i'm not touching PC-BSD again	Jul 07 01:56
cubexyz	I think my ISP actually uses openbsd	Jul 07 01:56
cubexyz	the folks in #openbsd aren't too bad to deal with	Jul 07 01:57
cubexyz	I still run Xenix in qemu sometimes	Jul 07 01:58
razielle_tzu	fair, i think i was looking at openBSD but i can't remember and my tab history is huge so checking is a pain	Jul 07 01:58
cubexyz	I think openbsd still has some a.out support, so vax, m68k, m88k	Jul 07 02:00
cubexyz	so openbsd on amiga maybe :)	Jul 07 02:00
razielle_tzu	that would be cool if i had one >.<	Jul 07 02:00
cubexyz	ok, no 68851 is a problem	Jul 07 02:00
razielle_tzu	i'm thinking about installing it on my ibm T60 though	Jul 07 02:01
cubexyz	you could even put coreboot firmware on that T60	Jul 07 02:01
razielle_tzu	want to get to grips with a basic setup first and then i'll learn to do more with it	Jul 07 02:02
cubexyz	yeah openbsd on T60 should be OK	Jul 07 02:07
razielle_tzu	i know the fingerprint reader is unlikely to work due to the model but i'm hoping everything else will be fine	Jul 07 02:07
razielle_tzu	i've had trouble getting it working with anything but windows	Jul 07 02:09
cubexyz	the openbsd folks don't like binary blobs	Jul 07 02:14
razielle_tzu	i know	Jul 07 02:15
razielle_tzu	tbh so long as it's useable to learn from i don't mind a couple of things not working	Jul 07 02:15
cubexyz	I'll look into that if I ever get a T60	Jul 07 02:19
razielle_tzu	i have one ready to try this with, i just need to setup the install media and give it a shot... for some reason i'm scared to though even though i've set freebsd up on it before and right now it has a dead mint install on it	Jul 07 02:20
cubexyz	we used to get programming info for peripherals	Jul 07 02:37
cubexyz	around 1999 or 2000 or so Microsoft tried really hard to end that	Jul 07 02:37
razielle_tzu	i vaguely remember that	Jul 07 02:38
cubexyz	I wrote a few notes on it	Jul 07 02:41
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/decommoditization.txt	Jul 07 02:43
razielle_tzu	interesting	Jul 07 02:44
cubexyz	someone leaked that to info to Eric Raymond	Jul 07 02:44
razielle_tzu	a lot of stuff related to microsoft is leaked, has been the case for years too	Jul 07 02:47
cubexyz	oh they knew what was coming	Jul 07 03:02
razielle_tzu	i have no doubt of that	Jul 07 03:03
XFaCE	[20:52:01]<cubexyz> so I try to exist in the sysv world, and the BSD world	Jul 07 03:49
XFaCE	cubexyz: don't forget OpenRC and runit	Jul 07 03:49
XFaCE	well, hopefully OpenRC won't be in the hands it is currently in for much longer	Jul 07 03:49
cubexyz	sure, use whatever init you want	Jul 07 03:50
cubexyz	I hear there's Gentoo/FreeBSD	Jul 07 03:51
XFaCE	cubexyz: my point being is that non-systemd doesn't automatically mean sysv :P	Jul 07 03:52
XFaCE	also, I need the hardware support of linux	Jul 07 03:52
cubexyz	it's not just the init system that's different, sysv had termio and BSD has termios, it's just one of those things	Jul 07 03:57
XFaCE	cubexyz: openrc isn't just init	Jul 07 04:01
XFaCE	:P	Jul 07 04:01
XFaCE	usually, you actually used openrc with sysv	Jul 07 04:01
XFaCE	but now you can use runit	Jul 07 04:01
cubexyz	I have to port a few programs from sysv to bsd	Jul 07 04:06
XFaCE	cool	Jul 07 04:08
XFaCE	cubexyz: how's the hardware support nowaadays?	Jul 07 04:08
cubexyz	it's always a mixed bag	Jul 07 04:11
cubexyz	it's actively maintained... I am assuming you mean openbsd	Jul 07 04:12
cubexyz	anything that's well documented should work	Jul 07 04:13
cubexyz	Linux is the more interesting desktop...	Jul 07 04:20
cubexyz	openbsd is more for Unix traditionalists	Jul 07 04:21
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/jrtd9ibWMr	Jul 07 06:28
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TweetTuxMachines	Running Linux on the Acer Switch Alpha 12	Jul 07 06:28
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/750867686515695616	Jul 07 07:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: @schestowitz If you have a controlling interest you don't need blackmail. You can censor Twitter. That would make them salivate.		Jul 07 07:18
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/4pONt2G2G8	Jul 07 07:55
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/fFZKErvutb	Jul 07 08:10
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TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by Who needs a GUI? How to live in a Linux terminal.	Jul 07 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto https://t.co/O0LE2LPe6Y (www.networkworld.com)	Jul 07 08:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750953584402001920	Jul 07 08:25
TweetTuxMachines	Not Your Mother’s Linux https://t.co/mYkCp7wUpp	Jul 07 08:25
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TweetTuxMachines	30 days in a terminal: Day 0 https://t.co/hRBE2JtIXs	Jul 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.networkworld.com) via @networkworld @BryanLunduke	Jul 07 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| 30 days in a terminal: Day 0 — The adventure begins \| Network World		Jul 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #LinuxSucks https://t.co/mdzCGSaKVv	Jul 07 08:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jesusguevarauto: 30 days in a terminal: Day 0 https://t.co/hRBE2JtIXs via @networkworld @BryanLunduke @tuxmachines #LinuxSucks https://t.co/mdzCGSaKVv		Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/750955782515064832	Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	Presentation-ing within a Linux Terminal	Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @NetworkWorld @BryanLunduke "Linux Sucks"™	Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UNiMpEGdXj	Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jesusguevarauto: Presentation-ing within a Linux Terminal @tuxmachines @NetworkWorld @BryanLunduke "Linux Sucks"™ https://t.co/UNiMpEGdXj		Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750957996927311874	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	Upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Mint 18 In Place	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/k3BJphiOm3 (www.adventuresinoss.com)	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuresinoss.com \| Upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Mint 18 In Place \| Adventures in Open Source		Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750958735212867584	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	Announcing new snap desktop launchers	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MUZoYSk2IG (developer.ubuntu.com)	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nexus 6 Is Now an Unofficial Ubuntu Phone,...'		Jul 07 09:30
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nexus 6 Is Now an Unofficial Ubuntu Phone,...'		Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970103999533056	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	SUSE and Microsoft, Canonical and Pivotal	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QglJWpBbny (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SUSE and Microsoft, Canonical and Pivotal \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970104821583872	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Not Your Mother’s Linux https://t.co/MUKa9LYxoL	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Not Your Mother’s Linux \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970105769656320	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Murdock Death Ruled Suicide, Terrible Linux Regressions	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S4sCOxLOhH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:30
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jcalabra/status/750971257940684802	Jul 07 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jcalabra: @schestowitz @We3forDemocracy @JFXM owned by whom again? You guessed it...		Jul 07 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970106633547776	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	Grenoble continues to move schools to open source	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eHRjDKfU7G (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Grenoble continues to move schools to open source \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970107426320384	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	LibreOffice News https://t.co/2Gtwts1SHy	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice News \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750972150547410944	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	More Polaris & Tonga Fixes For Linux 4.7	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AirTH5wpSy (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Polaris & Tonga Fixes For Linux 4.7 - Phoronix		Jul 07 10:21
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7583696	Jul 07 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who actually believe "Microsoft loves Linux" would also believe that Nigel Farage loves the European Union. A measure of gullibility.		Jul 07 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750983009373917184	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	Links 7/7/2016: New Information About Ian Murdock, New	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	Snap Desktop Launchers https://t.co/yyRAzdnsGp	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 7/7/2016: New Information About Ian Murdock, New Snap Desktop Launchers \| Techrights		Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992914000392192	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	Gets First Point Release https://t.co/LA3wUD7Oxn	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First Point Release \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992914931523584	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Devices/Mobile https://t.co/67dV3lbBQN	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Devices/Mobile \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992915690770432	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/TfBbRKOFUP	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 11:01
schestowitz	https://mobile.twitter.com/elizamurfitt1/status/751002235258204160	Jul 07 11:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/elizamurfitt1/status/751002235258204160	Jul 07 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@elizamurfitt1: @schestowitz @cristinaprkr No surprise there, then.		Jul 07 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992916558909440	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	The Sharp 507SH is the first Android One phone for the	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	Land of the Rising Sun https://t.co/1O4u4m0dEo	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 13:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Sharp 507SH is the first Android One phone for the Land of the Rising Sun \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992917691412482	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/k9tlDzGDBY	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751020291766321152	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights https://t.co/VV6PyUw2yB	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 13:12
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/VV6PyUw2yB'		Jul 07 13:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751029201298481152	Jul 07 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	Dangerous GNU wget Vulnerability Still Not Patched in All	Jul 07 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Distros https://t.co/hHh9hCLZV9	Jul 07 13:26
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 13:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751029510368272384	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Gets First Point Release https://t.co/Ks6xR1CNKj	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First Point Release		Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751029711925551104	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	The Sharp 507SH is the first Android One phone for the	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Land of the Rising Sun https://t.co/N86rMmenqC	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Sharp Announces the 507SH Android One Phone \| Digital Trends		Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751030017757413376	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nwD8Gw7tCy (joinup.ec.europa.eu)	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu \| France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project \| Joinup		Jul 07 13:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First...'		Jul 07 13:43
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schestowitz	urxvt	Jul 07 13:47
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4rn1yv/is_samsung_a_supporter_of_foss_or_not/	Jul 07 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Is Samsung a supporter of FOSS or not? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pf7ul ]		Jul 07 13:47
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ra44k/centos_steam_steam_controller_gamepad_and_keyboard/	Jul 07 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| CentOS + Steam + Steam Controller! (gamepad and keyboard). : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pf7ur ]		Jul 07 13:48
schestowitz	https://mobile.twitter.com/zoobab/status/751035262944305152	Jul 07 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com \| Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/pf7uv ]		Jul 07 13:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/751035262944305152	Jul 07 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz xterm without all the bloat. I was still using it, until I had to change for bigger fonts.		Jul 07 13:49
schestowitz	scrolling was my main issue with it	Jul 07 13:49
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First...'		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751038712730030081	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	"let's finish our KDE summer fundraiser in a generous	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	way." https://t.co/IUOnsWWksN (linuxgrandma.blogspot.com)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgrandma.blogspot.com \| Linux Grandma: Last push! Let's get KDE fundraising over the line		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039288758771712	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SeYWIcM8U2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039289689985026	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	Push to promote open source software in healthcare	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SiZrNIzwHK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039290616868864	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights https://t.co/NHhLcMQPUe	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039291828998144	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	Storpool upgrades software-defined storage but remains	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-only https://t.co/mlnvycHDTK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Storpool upgrades software-defined storage but remains Linux-only \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 14:05
*TweetTuxMachines @josema_enzo favourited 'Storpool upgrades software-defined storage but remains Linux-only https://t.co/mlnvycHDTK'		Jul 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039926095970304	Jul 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	X11 Applications and Unity 8 https://t.co/CknHfASOaF	Jul 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	(bregmatter.wordpress.com)	Jul 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bregmatter.wordpress.com \| X11 Applications and Unity 8 \| Bregmatter		Jul 07 14:08
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4r5k1s/why_is_linux_so_ressource_intensive_these_days/	Jul 07 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Why is linux so ressource intensive these days? : linux		Jul 07 14:19
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/NHhLcMQPUe'		Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751041294869430272	Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	Dekko Is Shaping Up Nicely for Desktop Convergence	Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LI7nLlCUVx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Dekko Is Shaping Up Nicely for Desktop Convergence - OMG! Ubuntu!		Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751043957979750401	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	"Texas LinuxFest in Austin, Texas this weekend. Friday,	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	July 8" https://t.co/VsNIit6mTT (shallowsky.com)	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shallowsky.com \| GIMP at Texas LinuxFest (Shallow Thoughts)		Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044173952872450	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	4 Best Mail Transfer Agents (MTA’s) for Linux	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JexIQQcfVT (www.tecmint.com)	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com \| 4 Best Mail Transfer Agents (MTA's) for Linux		Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044503142862848	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of Life on July	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	28, 2016 https://t.co/Ltad9DeLYE (linux.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of Life on July 28, 2016		Jul 07 14:26
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of...'		Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044740049670144	Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	Samba Patched Against Important SMB2/3 Client Security	Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	Issue, Update Now https://t.co/vaAEj9Igci	Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Samba Patched Against Important SMB2/3 Client Security Issue, Update Now		Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751046918814441472	Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s	Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Encrypt Support, and New Look https://t.co/lGQgk6xiQs	Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s Encrypt Support, and New Look		Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751047731448279040	Jul 07 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-4.4.15-stable Review Missing In Action	Jul 07 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pj2KfSmWlP (mrpogson.com)	Jul 07 14:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Linux-4.4.15-stable Review Missing In Action \| Robert Pogson		Jul 07 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751048002303909888	Jul 07 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat Is Working To Improve Linux Switchable Graphics	Jul 07 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/v2tZoAPJZV (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 07 14:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751052758124494849	Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	Vanguard Princess, a 2D fighting game that features an	Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	all-female cast is coming to Linux	Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/W8Kbetwk8e (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vanguard Princess, a 2D fighting game that features an all-female cast is coming to Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053159045459968	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	Improving Linux Switchable Graphics support	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uNInfKfxri (hansdegoede.livejournal.com)	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hansdegoede.livejournal.com \| Improving Linux Switchable Graphics support - Hans' hacking log		Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053381171568640	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window Manager	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8pywC8igbf (www.zdnet.com)	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window Manager \| ZDNet		Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053856113561600	Jul 07 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Infrastructure on DigitalOcean	Jul 07 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6oIjEMSbze (error)	Jul 07 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751054826432237568	Jul 07 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux	Jul 07 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ezrMXURJ58 (www.linux.com)	Jul 07 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/751060102636068864	Jul 07 15:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@GUSLSanFelix (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:46
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TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/T98ryAUm0B	Jul 07 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Encrypt Support, and New Look https://t.co/Gv1lYWPdqt	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064944347521026	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/P3F7kH1cGF	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064945156960257	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Space https://t.co/VRS9uza463	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064945857470465	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xb3HVkcdbv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064946897674240	Jul 07 15:52
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack	Jul 07 15:52
TweetTuxMachines	from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/7kwVO9svsK	Jul 07 15:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751066905453203456	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	Is this the first Android phone Nokia is making?	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RfFDl7hKhp (bgr.com)	Jul 07 15:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751067573454835712	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	Google is reportedly working on its own Android Wear	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	smartwatches https://t.co/fQ98W0NwVW (www.theverge.com)	Jul 07 15:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751068061487210497	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	JBoss EAP 7 Brings Red Hat Commercial Support for Java EE	Jul 07 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9UhJFMHPTW (dzone.com)	Jul 07 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751068626812301312	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Perl Sprint 2016 https://t.co/A8JALcGAdy	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	(bits.debian.org)	Jul 07 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751069438124892160	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora Job Opening: Fedora Community Outreach and Impact	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	Lead https://t.co/yGgix52dCz (fedoramagazine.org)	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ro2iQW9Lym (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)	Jul 07 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751088598309597188	Jul 07 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better	Jul 07 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	Switchable Graphics Support https://t.co/KxjbYHEZe3	Jul 07 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 17:42
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751089111470080000	Jul 07 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	The Pocket C.H.I.P. Is the Handheld Linux Machine I've	Jul 07 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Been Looking For https://t.co/jgNs2KjgBq (lifehacker.com)	Jul 07 17:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112544643747840	Jul 07 18:56
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/mr167TMqpT	Jul 07 18:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 18:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112545419694080	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/DuvqbYDCs9	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112546153750528	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/GAXX99RPDF	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112546967384064	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Switchable Graphics Support https://t.co/ISRMTTwhJ0	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112547852398592	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	The Pocket C.H.I.P. Is the Handheld Linux Machine I've	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Been Looking For https://t.co/jWnOQna8Tw	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 19:04
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751158077416615936	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	Greg Kroah-Hartman Gives an Inside Look at the Largest,	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	Fastest Software Project of All https://t.co/bNBYanDUkX	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751158078167396352	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	Tsuru open source PaaS puts developers first	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQA9GPbQKL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751180005086941185	Jul 08 02:18
TweetTuxMachines	Rugged, network oriented module dishes up 12-core QorIQ	Jul 08 02:18
TweetTuxMachines	SoC https://t.co/q6DunLJikZ (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 02:18
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:18
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751201441407127552	Jul 08 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	Mycroft Uses Ubuntu and Snaps to Deliver a Free	Jul 08 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	Intelligent Personal Assistant https://t.co/urwWPAot8M	Jul 08 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 02:19
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:19
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751201442191454209	Jul 08 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	Customizable carrier for OMAP4430 COM has RPi style CSI-2	Jul 08 02:19
TweetTuxMachines	port https://t.co/iGyIazCO6G (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 02:19
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 02:19
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cubexyz	wget is getting chunky	Jul 08 02:25
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cubexyz	compiling wget is rather a pain	Jul 08 04:01
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/reading-eula.jpg	Jul 08 05:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751296841409499136	Jul 08 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	Greg Kroah-Hartman Gives an Inside Look at the Largest,	Jul 08 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	Fastest Software Project of All https://t.co/iuRhJgkLXn	Jul 08 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linux.com)	Jul 08 07:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751297184453238786	Jul 08 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	Rugged, network oriented module dishes up 12-core QorIQ	Jul 08 07:11
TweetTuxMachines	SoC https://t.co/SXQgjeV28Z (hackerboards.com)	Jul 08 07:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 07:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751297537932419072	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	Mycroft Uses Ubuntu and Snaps to Deliver a Free	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	Intelligent Personal Assistant https://t.co/p3EkBs533F	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 07:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751297690986840065	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	Customizable carrier for OMAP4430 COM has RPi style CSI-2	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	port https://t.co/v9rgekZV7u (hackerboards.com)	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 07:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751298708126466048	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines	LXLE 16.04-beta is out https://t.co/PQ3idnJGVD (lxle.net)	Jul 08 07:16
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 07:16
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751298885788860416	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	Android O Name Predictions — Best Sweet Nicknames For	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	Next Android Version https://t.co/mBnFi3G9I8	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jul 08 07:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751300195602796544	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	Salt and Sanctuary, the stylish 2D action RPG is	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	officially out for Linux & SteamOS, Ethan's 38th port	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/M1AOZp98E3 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 08 07:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751300622951919616	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	"LiveCode, a highly productive coding environment for	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	Linux... 750,000 Kickstarter" https://t.co/MehFgymKsx	Jul 08 07:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.linuxjournal.com)	Jul 08 07:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751301558848065536	Jul 08 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora Media Writer Looks To Take On A Primary Role In	Jul 08 07:30
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 25 https://t.co/2DmVaERN8x (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 08 07:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751302326636408832	Jul 08 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	VirtualBox 5.1 Is Just Around the Corner	Jul 08 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/bdXvxrk0Am (news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/OwL1O0G1nu (blogs.oracle.com)	Jul 08 07:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NCJr5nCQxJ (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 08 07:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| VirtualBox 5.1 Is Just Around the Corner, First Release Candidate Up for Grabs		Jul 08 07:40
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 07:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751303172828848128	Jul 08 07:40
TweetTuxMachines	GPS for Linux https://t.co/iaIOaRF43B	Jul 08 07:40
TweetTuxMachines	(donaldmcintosh.net)	Jul 08 07:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751303767107264512	Jul 08 07:40
TweetTuxMachines	DIY Mobile Backup Device for Photographers	Jul 08 07:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SfVNYOQFff (medium.com)	Jul 08 07:40
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 07:40
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751309935695331329	Jul 08 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	LinuxCon Conference Delves Deep into Open Source,	Jul 08 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	Containers and Virtualization https://t.co/ffn6KS5ATL	Jul 08 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	(appdevelopermagazine.com)	Jul 08 08:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751310320233226240	Jul 08 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	How to get a Linux terminal on Android	Jul 08 08:39
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eDTQAtq0ou (www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 08 08:39
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TweetTuxMachines	Mozilla News (Rust, Yahoo) https://t.co/yTNVnSbnM2	Jul 08 08:53
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751323391097835520	Jul 08 08:54
TweetTuxMachines	VirtualBox 5.1 RC1 https://t.co/1jTJ7iuTNr	Jul 08 08:54
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751323391945117696	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/dq8v8hMH2b	Jul 08 09:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751324843644219392	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat reveals vision for more architecture-driven BPM	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	models https://t.co/zFZ0eSOHuX (searchsoa.techtarget.com)	Jul 08 09:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751325161689911296	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	Exclusive: Android Co-Founder To Lead Google’s New	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	Education Project	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nxH8B6n2TN (fortune.com)	Jul 08 09:07
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751326182260543488	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	Android Wear 2.0 release date and features: Google	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	planning to launch two Android Wear smartwatches?	Jul 08 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/G19omc928n (www.itpro.co.uk)	Jul 08 09:07
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r_schestowitz	cubexyz: also buggy	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	some wget hole found, patched	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	try curl	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	not sure if it's any better	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	never checked size of it	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/751337243722276864	Jul 08 09:49
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r_schestowitz	"Hahaha mine is dying. Thinking about a new machine :)"	Jul 08 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751328673467424768	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	How to handle security risks in Red Hat virtualization	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	environments https://t.co/6SkXMMiJ4S	Jul 08 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751350228729618432	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	Links 8/7/2016: Kubernetes 1.3, New Linux Foundation	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	Events https://t.co/TRC4coVNDg (techrights.org)	Jul 08 11:41
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367391251095553	Jul 08 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/P4xDqEew1P	Jul 08 11:48
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/ZoAaqvbxQ2	Jul 08 11:48
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TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/XJ9VMjXfx2	Jul 08 13:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367394052845568	Jul 08 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora PSA, Ubuntu EOL, Positive Mint Review	Jul 08 13:34
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367394866581504	Jul 08 13:34
TweetTuxMachines	LXLE 16.04 "Eclectica" Distro Will Be Based on Ubuntu	Jul 08 13:35
TweetTuxMachines	16.04 LTS, Beta Out Now https://t.co/USadTjgfnp	Jul 08 13:35
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TweetTuxMachines	The best budget Android phones you can buy [July 2016]	Jul 08 17:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751451966077865988	Jul 08 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	Nexus 6P and Galaxy S5 Mini https://t.co/ZcdZTnNPgj	Jul 08 17:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751452556782600192	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Review: They Did it Again!	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VJFVP7HzWL (www.hecticgeek.com)	Jul 08 17:30
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TweetTuxMachines	How graphical installers introduced the user	Jul 08 17:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453146355040256	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	The Linux Setup - Cassidy James Blaede, elementary	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	OS/System76 https://t.co/w0YnaqZJeZ (www.mylinuxrig.com)	Jul 08 17:30
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/otivar55/status/751453990437683204	Jul 08 17:33
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: UK’s secret, ongoing mass surveillance rigorously frisked by watchdog https://t.co/YkiKSEvH24 #surveillance #uk		Jul 08 17:34
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/aral/status/751454032531783680	Jul 08 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aral: If we let it… #regulate #legislate #demonstrate https://t.co/RPcoYQTDeb		Jul 08 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How Facial Recognition Will Soon End Anonymity https://t.co/PDEBiv8lJC #privacy		Jul 08 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453300722196480	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	LXLE 16.04 "Eclectica" Distro Will Be Based on Ubuntu	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	16.04 LTS, Beta Out Now https://t.co/Ea0QLIBDTf	Jul 08 17:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453520595943424	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	UBOS beta 7 makes running TLS-enabled web apps even	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	easier on EC2, Raspberry Pi 3, others, with more apps	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BqWdsBF4G4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 17:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487444202115074	Jul 08 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	Fancy an Ubuntu-powered rival to Apple’s Siri?	Jul 08 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/R8ktplhp7r (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 19:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487445338689536	Jul 08 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	Star Cloud PCG03U is a compact Ubuntu PC for $90	Jul 08 19:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mKsh13u6EN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 19:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487446152417280	Jul 08 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	Use Linux or Tor? The NSA might just be tracking you	Jul 08 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uny8E73HgP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 19:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487446852915201	Jul 08 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	BQ Aquaris M10 Ubuntu Edition Tablet Review: Remarkably	Jul 08 19:46
TweetTuxMachines	Unsatisfying Review https://t.co/9BuT11sO55	Jul 08 19:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751487447536513024	Jul 08 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	World’s smallest quad-core SBC starts at $8	Jul 08 21:06
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/KqHGPcozJN (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 21:06
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SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ping	Jul 08 21:24
razielle_tzu	usp	Jul 08 21:24
razielle_tzu	*sup	Jul 08 21:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Why are some girls or a lot really, so sweet so cute, or uh mostly, well young ones anyway, I mean like 19 or so :D h eh, and if they reolise that or not ?	Jul 08 21:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	well the few who will actsaully message a guy of my age that is as well, the rest uh	Jul 08 21:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	honestly about 10 years age difference isn't that much	Jul 08 21:25
razielle_tzu	i have no idea, they just tend to be. i don't know many girls (online or irl) that are younger than 22	Jul 08 21:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I am seen as to old now by most girls who are younger than say 22 now	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I am in contact with one here and thee when I bother to text her	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	from a more friend ship making site	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	annoyingly she doens't text me first ever!	Jul 08 21:26
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 08 21:26
razielle_tzu	few people message me first, got used to it	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	but when texting it's a bit of a fun, and she's sweet and such	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	annoyingly she won't just phone though one of those uh!	Jul 08 21:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, she also at first hought I was a bit to old to, but we stayed in contact anyway :d	Jul 08 21:27
razielle_tzu	i prefer text or IM... i get anxious on the phone	Jul 08 21:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah she's one of those gets anxious on the phone or so she says	Jul 08 21:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	that's something else, why do a lot of girls apparnatly get anxious on the phone ?	Jul 08 21:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	or young ish ones	Jul 08 21:27
razielle_tzu	there could be any number of reasons for it but it's mostly not being used to it because text/IM is so much easier for them	Jul 08 21:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah and I guess the younger ones are more used to it than us	Jul 08 21:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean I didn't have Internet access untill ike 10 then yes the world of online text chat etc	Jul 08 21:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	younger than us grown up with INtenret all there lifes a lot	Jul 08 21:29
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, why do you get anxious on the phone ?	Jul 08 21:29
razielle_tzu	i have general anxiety issues as well as being bipolar	Jul 08 21:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	ah right	Jul 08 21:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	what were the anxity issues ?	Jul 08 21:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, and aww but your awesome, except maybe for being so far up n orth h eh h eh, and being into girls h e h h eh altough that's kind of inteesting he h h eh	Jul 08 21:31
razielle_tzu	i was bullied until i was about 19 for various reasons as well as going through all kinds of shit as a young kid so i lost myself in books and games.. then later computers so i get nervous talking to people via any medium but text	Jul 08 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh chatting in the public channel, well you said you were open about stuff etc and that	Jul 08 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yes I can relate to that	Jul 08 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, in person world can like suck or mostly since bullying etc at shcool and what not or colege	Jul 08 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	then get home	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	and it's like WOW	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	Internet	Jul 08 21:33
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and most people on the Internet acsualy want to be your friend as well OW	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	WOW	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	that get in contact with	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	shame the in person world isn't as easy to make friends !	Jul 08 21:33
razielle_tzu	at 19 i was running with a skate crew that also did some parkour so if i wasn't online i was climbing, running or skating	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I remember when I used to help out in #ubuntu a lot in 2008 2009 and 2010	Jul 08 21:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	since it was like	Jul 08 21:34
razielle_tzu	and if i was online i was doing all kinds of things	Jul 08 21:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	a way to escape from the sucky in perosn life I was having at the time or well mostly sucky as well	Jul 08 21:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	and after the last sucky ICT course didn't go so well, for the social issues, bad lectures etc, well it made sense really, I know computers, I am good at helping people get set up etc	Jul 08 21:35
razielle_tzu	i wasn't on irc so much but i was easy to find on icq or various forums and some of the BBSs that were still running	Jul 08 21:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, probably the thing I have helped most with when it comes to Ubuntu has been partitining new installs and stuff like that	Jul 08 21:35
razielle_tzu	i've kinda gone off ubuntu, some of the distros based on it are ok but i'm leaning more towards CentOS and arch for linux now as well as openBSD	Jul 08 21:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, indeed I gone off of it really for a desktop computer altough been using it longer than intended on a newer lap top like that, since that's not set up properly yet how I want it for a few reasons	Jul 08 21:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	however for the phone and tablet I do indeed seem to be won over	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but Jolla phone with Salifish OS is also rather nice for example	Jul 08 21:37
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but well Desktop Ubuntu is going to get interesting again soon	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	starting with like 16.10	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	it's been quite boring the past few releases really	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	Unity 8 will be there not as the default, but as a default option in the next versibion	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	as an option from the default log in screen	Jul 08 21:38
razielle_tzu	14.04 as the last release i really liked but looking back i can't remember why	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	for now can try from a old one in the repos or a newer ppa on a computer	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	the last one I really liked was 8.10	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	Intrepid Ibex	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	really liked that release	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	the way Gnome 2 was like, and that awesome default background to	Jul 08 21:38
razielle_tzu	yeah Gnome2 was good	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, they started messing around with GNOME 2 after that customing it doing things I Wansn't keen on and such	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that later went to what became Unity as well	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	some of those ideas	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	became part of Unity really	Jul 08 21:39
razielle_tzu	Gnome3 and Unity are basically the same thing and they suck	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	the default install meant quite a lot to me years ago	Jul 08 21:39
cubexyz	X11 + motif :)	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	I wanted a good default install I still do	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so with 10.04 it was like ah!	Jul 08 21:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	to much things I didn't like in GNOME 2 that they had put in or whatever, and also that horrible new default theme	Jul 08 21:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	augine/pruple thing, which well at least looks good on the Ubuntu phone an tablet by default though the background they have :d	Jul 08 21:40
razielle_tzu	i'm either going to fix a mint install or replace it with openbsd. not sure yet	Jul 08 21:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	replace possibly with openbsd why and what's up with the mint install?	Jul 08 21:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	cybezyx uhmm what's motif ?	Jul 08 21:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz	Jul 08 21:41
razielle_tzu	it's not booting past the grub menu and i kinda want to give a different version of BSD a go	Jul 08 21:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	BSD why?	Jul 08 21:42
razielle_tzu	why not?	Jul 08 21:43
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/mwm-with-antialiased-fonts.png	Jul 08 21:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh and h eh h eh I think it would be awesome to meet up some time in the future :) even if your into girls h eh h eh	Jul 08 21:43
razielle_tzu	looking good cubexyz	Jul 08 21:44
razielle_tzu	and yeah meet ups are always fun SebthreeBQM10HD	Jul 08 21:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it was Yorkshire though wasn't it or something like that?	Jul 08 21:44
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but maybe you'll end up going to the awesome FOSDEM or OGG Camp when that's probably on again	Jul 08 21:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	or something like that :)	Jul 08 21:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	no OGG Camp this year it seems, the UK event	Jul 08 21:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	England event	Jul 08 21:45
razielle_tzu	i don't make it to many events any more	Jul 08 21:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	why's that, and what have you been to then it seems?	Jul 08 21:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	my family may be a bit hmm me going to Brussels again next year for FOSDEM after what happended there the other month	Jul 08 21:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but it seems might even have a guy to go with who's coming to my LUG next time as well :d	Jul 08 21:45
razielle_tzu	i can't afford them at the moment but i've been to a couple of FOSSDEMs and some national events	Jul 08 21:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh wow you have been to FOSDEM	Jul 08 21:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	when did you go?	Jul 08 21:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I done 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and this year, and those years for OGG Camp as well, well ok none this year it seems	Jul 08 21:46
razielle_tzu	2011 was the last one i could make	Jul 08 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	and indeed if not working with a well enough paid job or something like that	Jul 08 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	or with family who can help out enough or something or someone from if neassreyto cover costs :D	Jul 08 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	then yes events really are expensive, once adding in hotel in there, and more so if flying to another country as well	Jul 08 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	and the trains aren't that cheap for longish distance here as well really	Jul 08 21:48
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razielle_tzu	true	Jul 08 21:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	dum de dum DaemonFC long time no see I think ????	Jul 08 21:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah benefits money isn't really meant to be spent on events, or even 500 pound courses, but if you save up enough you could spend :d	Jul 08 21:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	like that	Jul 08 21:49
razielle_tzu	no that i've quit smoking i'm hoping to save for at least one national event next year	Jul 08 21:49
razielle_tzu	*now	Jul 08 21:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, 500 pounds for a sucky Level 2 course similar o the same as what I did at college last time uh no thanks, but someone who's coming to my LUG it sems is doing one now it's a self learn thing at ome though	Jul 08 21:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I am not spending 500 pounds on any course any time soon, and if I am going to spend such money, I'll make sure it's on a good course I Think :)	Jul 08 21:50
razielle_tzu	i'm doing a comp degree with a CCNA soon :D	Jul 08 21:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh you smoked, yeah that's not good, but congratulatiosn for quiting when you do that :)? how long did you smoke for?	Jul 08 21:51
razielle_tzu	16 years and i quit last week	Jul 08 21:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	your doing a what? what's that? got a link even ? oh yeah I can't click links yet on this tablet since... but the update is coming coming uhmm in uhmm I guess another few weeks or so yet	Jul 08 21:51
razielle_tzu	i'm doing a BSc in computing with the Open University and one of the module options is a Cisco qualification for network admin	Jul 08 21:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh right ok nice :)	Jul 08 21:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	but you go to be motivated enough to study at home for stuff like that	Jul 08 21:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	and it will cost yes	Jul 08 21:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	how much that cost?	Jul 08 21:52
razielle_tzu	i get most of the fees waived and what i have to pay is covered by loans from the SLC	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	fees waived how ?	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's SLC ?	Jul 08 21:53
razielle_tzu	student's loan company	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	what since low income benefits even ?	Jul 08 21:53
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	in other uhmm non related news, we are having a female prime minster next it seems	Jul 08 21:54
razielle_tzu	hopefully not for long	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	minds gone blank to the names right now, but uhmmm yes her probably, the uhmm	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	minds gone blank for names as I put	Jul 08 21:54
razielle_tzu	theresa may?	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	yep bingo that's it	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	Theresa May probably	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	there's another woman candidae, but I have a feeling she won't be it	Jul 08 21:54
razielle_tzu	they'll both be bad for the country and should call an early general election	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, you don't want a woman prime minster ?	Jul 08 21:55
razielle_tzu	i do but i want a DECENT one	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	who would be a decent one?	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	is Thersea May that bad really? ok she's conservative, but	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	she voted to remain and for ceratin marraiges and yeah	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	or so media saiid the tv	Jul 08 21:55
razielle_tzu	tbh the only mp i'd consider for PM would be corbyn (if he could sort his party ouT)	Jul 08 21:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	well there were issues there	Jul 08 21:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	he won't get in	Jul 08 21:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	a ED Miliband goverment could hve been interesting prime minster, but that didn't happen	Jul 08 21:56
razielle_tzu	if they call for an election to get rid of him as labour leader he'd win again and get rid of the people that are stabbing him in the back	Jul 08 21:56
razielle_tzu	they know this so they won't call for it	Jul 08 21:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it might work for nicolas advantage having a woman to an extent or not	Jul 08 21:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I mean she will probably try and get a Scotland going free vote again so	Jul 08 21:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	referfendum	Jul 08 21:57
razielle_tzu	sturgeon would be a good leader on her own but hollyrood has to answer to westminster so she gets hobbled	Jul 08 21:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	hollyrood a place in Scotland ?	Jul 08 21:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	and indeed I agree with that it seems she would be a good prime minster or something like that, but yes Scotland has to answer to England/Westminster for now so	Jul 08 21:58
razielle_tzu	yeah, it's where the scottish parliament meet	Jul 08 21:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	I agree with my Scottish friend online freind, well mett him in 2012 he came here :d	Jul 08 21:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	I think I am agreeing with him more now	Jul 08 21:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	that Scotland should go free really	Jul 08 21:58
razielle_tzu	scotland should leave the uk and remain in the EU and Yorkshire should be made part of Scotland ;)	Jul 08 21:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	Yorkshire is nearish to Scotland	Jul 08 21:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that won't just became Scotland	Jul 08 21:59
razielle_tzu	it should	Jul 08 21:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	you think it should why ?	Jul 08 21:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	also actaully other than Wales quite a lot of the leave EU voters were up North	Jul 08 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	as well	Jul 08 22:00
razielle_tzu	because i'd rather answer to Hollyrood than Westminstter	Jul 08 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	or North west anyway or wahtever but hmm either way	Jul 08 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	North	Jul 08 22:00
razielle_tzu	of course they were... there's a TON of old people here that outvoted the younger people	Jul 08 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	to an extent it was good having EU there to like say no to ceratin things	Jul 08 22:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	that conservatives wanted etc	Jul 08 22:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	h eh	Jul 08 22:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ever crows funded anything?	Jul 08 22:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	crowd funded	Jul 08 22:10
razielle_tzu	not for myself no, have donated to a couple of projects though	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, well one of the interesting things I crowd funded ths year	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	was meant to be shipped like two weeks or so ago now	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	but	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	a fire in the factory instead	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but just seen a recent update ;) seems it will be shipped at the end of August, maybe sooner	Jul 08 22:11
razielle_tzu	shit happens, sometimes there's delays	Jul 08 22:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah indeed	Jul 08 22:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	but the fire happended like the weekend before htey were going to ship them	Jul 08 22:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, sometimes people go off with your money as well instead of getting anyting! that happended with one from last year it seems uh	Jul 08 22:13
razielle_tzu	most crowd funding won't take your money until the project is ready for shipping	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I coudn't just claim waht I had paid for invested whatever, got into a meail discussion, oh I was going to maybe buy patron I say	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	he trys to offer me more stuff at a discounted thing though	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	price	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, apparnatly the google play vouchester as singapore only part of one of some of the perks	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	there were broken pages on his site to	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	I had tipped off a bit in emails, things didn't just get fixed	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, eventually I as like ok update my account, asi n send me the other stuff, aparnatly I Had like 10 days to get out of I think, I try to get out of it, reolising I Don't want two of them etc plus the stand etc, uh there I meant	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	two with slight updates	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	three tablets	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	there cheapish Android tablets, with some kind of custom software or whatevr it was	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	but he didnt respond to the next month when apparnatly had been sending them out	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, and then teh sillyness began etc	Jul 08 22:16
razielle_tzu	i use kickstarter and indiegogo to check projects out because of how they handle funding for projects	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	I coun't just pay up, didn't have the o money as well	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah the one I Had issues with was on indiegog go	Jul 08 22:17
razielle_tzu	strange	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	he sent some more emails	Jul 08 22:17
razielle_tzu	they're usually pretty good	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	trying to get me to pay or see where I was etc	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	what had happended to me, I started not responding etc	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	months went by a bit, I emailed again in march asking for a full re fund, etc, ah yes before al that he had sent one like, we don't want ot open up the parcel	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	you agreed to pay for stuf, that's unprofessioanl of you etc etc	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway in March I emailed again, got the automatic email response from the server bu that was it	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so it seems this guy has gone off with my about 100 pounds	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I have got nothing	Jul 08 22:18
razielle_tzu	:/	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and yes apparnatly the parcel had been waiting there in Singapore	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	for months or whatever	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	the one that he coudl have opended up but didn'tj ust want to	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, now I Haven't contacted indiegogo about this have thought about it before, but going by google it seems, that indiegogo don't help much	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	they go like, uh it's not our fault, you invested money etc etc	Jul 08 22:19
razielle_tzu	they used to be really helpful, guess that's changed	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	it's up to you and th campaigner to try and sort things out	Jul 08 22:19
razielle_tzu	kickstarter still rock though	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	I should probably try indiegogo really	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	even though it's nearly a year now	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	I did also read osme where online, that apparnatly on indiegogo pretty much anything can go up on that	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	no checks basically	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	but on kickstarter they actsually check projects or something	Jul 08 22:20
razielle_tzu	yeah they do	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	so certain things that were rejected on kickstarter for whatever reason	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	will go on indiegogo instead it seems	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, a guy from my LUG, was like to me, crowd funded is a bit like giivng your money tothe bookies	Jul 08 22:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	he menas it's like a gamble	Jul 08 22:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess it is really, but it mostly works out I think. I have recieved some crowd funded things now :)	Jul 08 22:21
razielle_tzu	it can be if you're not vigilant with it	Jul 08 22:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but with hind sight a similar campain broken links	Jul 08 22:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	not that clear what going to actsaully get etc etc	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	would ring alarm bells now	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	after what hapended	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean after that even, one or two campains I din't fund, because I Thought it woudn't be worht it the waiting to see what would happpen or not etc, but otherwise might have	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but yeah I Got scammed out of about 100 pounds then or something?	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and the tablet I Was trying to get ended up on Amazon as well, as part of the indiegogo thing they got	Jul 08 22:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	apparnatly it wasn't that great the hardware and such going by a comment	Jul 08 22:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	I even saw before that there was like a competin he was running and someon was going to get one for free aparnatly, uhmm if giving them away for free, why not send the one I paid for	Jul 08 22:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Crowd funding is interesitng when it works, get interesting ech that won't get in retail ever and such	Jul 08 22:24
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 22:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, there are other types of campaings to, but I don't really look at that, or much, if I had more money I would possibly though more. so I stick to my main interest tech!	Jul 08 22:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	I could of had a cameo character named after me in a Creativ Commons film for example though, but didn't fund that in the end	Jul 08 22:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I like having interesting tech devices and such	Jul 08 22:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, stuf that most people won't have or kind of thing	Jul 08 22:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	I like being difernet :)	Jul 08 22:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	Android is good enough for what it is, but that's also mostly boring now, unless something based on it that's interesting or something, ANdroid is all over the place out there in the general public now	Jul 08 22:26
razielle_tzu	fair enough	Jul 08 22:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so yeah Ubuntu phones jolla phone, firefox stuff etc	Jul 08 22:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	that's ineresting to	Jul 08 22:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	]	Jul 08 22:28
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 22:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm was moving tablet so wasn't going to put that character, but yes that looks like a :) and sure could put a :) at the end of that	Jul 08 22:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I guess another interes of mine would be girls more, but so far I don't have much luck with that one uh h eh h eh	Jul 08 22:29
razielle_tzu	heh	Jul 08 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, remind me, you were tottally lesbain or bi ?	Jul 08 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	and either way you are an awesome person :)	Jul 08 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	geek girl wow :)	Jul 08 22:30
razielle_tzu	bi but leaning towards lesbian	Jul 08 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	h eh I remember when one of the most interesging people in here was MinceR h eh	Jul 08 22:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	and that australlian guy oiahom whatever he was called	Jul 08 22:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	and deamonfc sometimes h eh	Jul 08 22:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	but now we got razielle_tzu :) h eh	Jul 08 22:32
razielle_tzu	i'm not that interesting though	Jul 08 22:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	sorry cubexyz you were nice and kind of interesting to, but not enough with your old tech your fedora core 1 and yeah, h eh h eh sort of joking here	Jul 08 22:33
cubexyz	I don't think of FC1 as old	Jul 08 22:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I am still not sure how schestowitz does it, all that bloggin etc, whilst having a girl friend, having some kind of job, and also going to the gym	Jul 08 22:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz well it was from like 2003 wasn't it ?	Jul 08 22:34
cubexyz	old is mag core :)	Jul 08 22:35
razielle_tzu	it's called time management ;)	Jul 08 22:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's mag core ?	Jul 08 22:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah but its crazy in a way	Jul 08 22:35
cubexyz	ok, have you heard of 'core dumps'?	Jul 08 22:35
razielle_tzu	i know i couldn't do it right now	Jul 08 22:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, how he can do all that, atough he did say before that he would write some blog posts whils on say the tred meal at the gym if I reember correcly	Jul 08 22:36
cubexyz	I assume you have... the term comes from magnetic core memory...	Jul 08 22:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, even Tim the co host of the pod cast that was done before with him and schestowitz thought it to	Jul 08 22:36
cubexyz	in other words before semi-conductors	Jul 08 22:36
cubexyz	yes, I'm feeling the gen gap today :-/	Jul 08 22:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	cybexyx nah your not that old it seems, since core dumps means something to me	Jul 08 22:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I can't really think of what h eh right now	Jul 08 22:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but yes tech thing	Jul 08 22:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	software	Jul 08 22:37
cubexyz	ok, old is Unix v5 from 1974...which I think is worthy of study	Jul 08 22:37
cubexyz	(almost) everything came out of Bell Labs remember	Jul 08 22:38
cubexyz	the transistor and Unix itself	Jul 08 22:38
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 22:38
cubexyz	all the other stuff like Linux, Android, all because of Bell Labs Unix	Jul 08 22:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	so uhjmm ah yes now I remember do you pretty much live on IRC razielle_tzu like 99% or so of the time or so, or well for now ?	Jul 08 22:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	and why :D ?	Jul 08 22:39
razielle_tzu	i'm always connected but not always here	Jul 08 22:39
cubexyz	even BSD is kind of a side-show, but also very important	Jul 08 22:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	Minix!	Jul 08 22:40
cubexyz	at least Minix supported Amiga for a while	Jul 08 22:41
cubexyz	very painful to use though	Jul 08 22:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah not usd that	Jul 08 22:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	not even in a vm	Jul 08 22:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I guss can download it from some where	Jul 08 22:42
razielle_tzu	probably	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway BSD, MINI, UHMM Not so known OSes etc	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	the world is uhmm	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	like it or not	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	mostly about, Windows, Mac OS X, and then Linux that's for desktop cmputing	Jul 08 22:43
cubexyz	except the tcp/ip stack was from BSD :)	Jul 08 22:43
cubexyz	kind of important	Jul 08 22:43
razielle_tzu	;)	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	for mobile, Android, IoS, Windows maybe kind of still	Jul 08 22:44
razielle_tzu	nah windows is almost dead on mobile looking at the last few quarters sales	Jul 08 22:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	Blackberry has gone Android so eh	Jul 08 22:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I see Ubuntu Touch as a possible future more main streme player in well	Jul 08 22:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	a few years I guess if that's going to happen	Jul 08 22:44
cubexyz	it's really true, people don't learn from history	Jul 08 22:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah I did know that by the wya that tcp/ip was borrowed by Microsoft from BSD	Jul 08 22:45
razielle_tzu	"borrowed"	Jul 08 22:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh yeah Tizen might become quite big	Jul 08 22:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	if Samsung really do go	Jul 08 22:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	Android eh, we will do Tizen on our phones from now on	Jul 08 22:45
cubexyz	btw my Sony HDTV is a linux	Jul 08 22:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	that runs what?	Jul 08 22:46
razielle_tzu	aren't a lot of smart tvs?	Jul 08 22:46
cubexyz	it's not a smart tv, but yes	Jul 08 22:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	Panasonc still does firefox os i belive for smart tv's	Jul 08 22:46
cubexyz	there's probably Android HDTVs now? I don't know	Jul 08 22:47
razielle_tzu	possibly, i haven't looked	Jul 08 22:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	I have some sort of razielle_tzu robot, she runs Linux, and is awesome :), sometimes she wants to be run by BSD instead of Linux though, but I tell her then that no Linux is where stuff like that is motly at these days!	Jul 08 22:47
razielle_tzu	depends on what she wants to do with BSD :P	Jul 08 22:48
cubexyz	ok, quick recap on why BSD is important:	Jul 08 22:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	well what would a robot run by Linux be able to do if she was run by BSD instead :d ?	Jul 08 22:49
razielle_tzu	what can it do on linux that it wouldn't be able to do with bsd?	Jul 08 22:49
cubexyz	TCP/IP stack, vi, basically a more traditional Unix, more integrated in general	Jul 08 22:50
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, be cooler than the real you maybe he h h eh :d :) ?	Jul 08 22:50
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 08 22:50
cubexyz	ok, I don't want to hear "what's vi"	Jul 08 22:50
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz ha ha I know what vi is I don't use it though, also I know there's like a thing between which is better vi or vim, or you know what even emacs :d	Jul 08 22:51
*SebthreeBQM10HD hmm hasn't emacs installed for years		Jul 08 22:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	hasn't had	Jul 08 22:52
razielle_tzu	wasn't there more that made bsd important? or are you just getting started?	Jul 08 22:52
razielle_tzu	:P	Jul 08 22:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and you know what, Linux, BSD whatever whatever oh and that's GNU/Linux but you know what whatever to those, Hurd is where things are at now yeah, oh yeah baby awesome! he he	Jul 08 22:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm more seriosuly if Hurd had been more developed etc	Jul 08 22:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	we would be in differnet world	Jul 08 22:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	things would have been mostly about Hurd rather than Linux	Jul 08 22:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess	Jul 08 22:54
cubexyz	ok...strings, head, tail, uptime, telnet, ftp, ntp, ping, rlogin, sendmail	Jul 08 22:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	aoparntly hurd is actually resoanbly useble now for certain things, a bit like how ReactOS has actully gone reasoanbly far in th past fw yers now, you can run word and such in it :D	Jul 08 22:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, your saying those things came from the BSD world?	Jul 08 22:55
cubexyz	yes	Jul 08 22:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz ok I guess that would make sense, since it's mostly aimed at servers and neworks anyway isn't it ?	Jul 08 22:56
cubexyz	it's a long hair OS really	Jul 08 22:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	what do you mean by that?	Jul 08 22:57
cubexyz	Berkeley west coast academia...	Jul 08 22:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh?	Jul 08 22:58
cubexyz	University of California and all that	Jul 08 22:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh ok I guesss	Jul 08 22:59
cubexyz	Free Speech, Free source code :)	Jul 08 22:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	Free Speech Free Softare	Jul 08 23:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	software	Jul 08 23:00
cubexyz	ok, let me draw a picture...	Jul 08 23:00
cubexyz	IBM = the short hairs	Jul 08 23:00
cubexyz	Bell Labs and Berkeley = the long hairs :)	Jul 08 23:00
razielle_tzu	bsd was originally an extension of AT&T's Research UNIX	Jul 08 23:01
SebthreeBQM10HD	and razielle_tzu = hairy	Jul 08 23:01
cubexyz	IBM guys = mainframe, Bell Labs = minis	Jul 08 23:03
razielle_tzu	that's not nice SebthreeBQM10HD	Jul 08 23:04
razielle_tzu	i'm not THAT hairy, most of the time	Jul 08 23:04
cubexyz	I'm a late convert to BSD, but I know some stuff	Jul 08 23:05
razielle_tzu	:)	Jul 08 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, h eh I was being silly, and your head is probably quite hairy :d	Jul 08 23:06
razielle_tzu	you've seen one of my most recent pics :P	Jul 08 23:06
cubexyz	it goes a bit like this:	Jul 08 23:07
cubexyz	PDP-7 -> PDP-11/20 -> PDP-11/40 -> PDP-11/45 -> PDP-11/70 -> Vax 11/780	Jul 08 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah why do quite few of the pretty girls a few things, but it doesn't matter your up north anyway h eh	Jul 08 23:07
razielle_tzu	now there's something i'd like to play with, Vax11/780	Jul 08 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's tht?	Jul 08 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	some sort of old softwre or computr or something ?	Jul 08 23:09
cubexyz	the first Vax man!	Jul 08 23:09
cubexyz	come on :)	Jul 08 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	what is Vax man?	Jul 08 23:09
razielle_tzu	i know right, i'd need a dino pen for it though :/	Jul 08 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's a dino pen ?	Jul 08 23:09
razielle_tzu	it's a room designed for the older computers that took up a lot of space	Jul 08 23:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 23:10
cubexyz	dino pen :)	Jul 08 23:10
razielle_tzu	i wonder if there are any abandoned ones in the area...	Jul 08 23:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	dinosauser pen ?	Jul 08 23:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	but seriosuly what do you mean dino pen ?	Jul 08 23:10
cubexyz	32v, the first 32-bit Unix, add that one to the list	Jul 08 23:11
razielle_tzu	it's the name given to the old mainframe rooms, it had space under the floor for the cabling, a halon system and a scram switch in case things set on fire	Jul 08 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	and what' a scram switch?	Jul 08 23:11
razielle_tzu	it's a switch that cut the power and set off the halon system to put out fires	Jul 08 23:12
cubexyz	it's a nuke term originally I think	Jul 08 23:12
razielle_tzu	yeah because you'd hit it and scram	Jul 08 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, you were meant to be guy, your to nerd to be female a proper female :d and since you were meant to be guy you wan to date girls h eh	Jul 08 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, joke	Jul 08 23:12
cubexyz	the thing is, there used to be a lot of women programmers	Jul 08 23:13
razielle_tzu	we were the first >.<	Jul 08 23:13
razielle_tzu	arguably anyway	Jul 08 23:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, in America yeah I guess, probably not so much in UK	Jul 08 23:13
razielle_tzu	even here	Jul 08 23:14
razielle_tzu	back in the day	Jul 08 23:14
cubexyz	where is here?	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	well society ruined it	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	then	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	tech is motly a guy thing	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	as is enginnierng	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	tht' what society did	Jul 08 23:14
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: we're both in the UK, just different areas	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	plu they though boring things at school and collges	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh word, excel, poerpoint	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh how fun!	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean that right here shows that computers are really exciteing!	Jul 08 23:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	right there above	Jul 08 23:15
cubexyz	the 70s might have actually been the best time in many ways	Jul 08 23:15
razielle_tzu	70s and early 70s	Jul 08 23:16
razielle_tzu	*80s	Jul 08 23:16
cubexyz	qmc and a lot of Universities were hacking on Unix v6	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	90's was alriht for me at infants and juniours school	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	mostly juniors	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	primary school	Jul 08 23:16
cubexyz	you know about QMC I imagine?	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	for computing I guss	Jul 08 23:16
razielle_tzu	the 90s could have gone better and don't even talk about 2000+ >.<	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	got to play around with the achornsa bit	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but mostly for gaming and that was about it	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	there was novel waever for netwofk and yeah	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	bbc for logo	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	Windows pc's came when I was lke yer 5 or 5	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	no Internet yet	Jul 08 23:17
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: remind me of QMC	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	at that school, but yes I got to try out some diffenret types of computrs a bit	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ha ha yes, 2000 + was uhmm awesome, Windows PC's took over, bye bye the old achorns or nearly if not	Jul 08 23:18
cubexyz	Queen Mary College in London	Jul 08 23:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	well yes those went bye bye in early 200's	Jul 08 23:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	bye bye bbc if not gone already	Jul 08 23:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	hello wINDOWS PC's, and for some people macs	Jul 08 23:18
razielle_tzu	i know of the college but can't remember why it's important	Jul 08 23:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and helo ICT being mostly Microsoft Office	Jul 08 23:18
cubexyz	qmc did a lot of excellent work on Unix	Jul 08 23:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	and if oidng any programing wel drag and drog on a form uhmm visual basic	Jul 08 23:19
cubexyz	I learned a lot from the qmc source code	Jul 08 23:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	bang a bit of code behind a button icon thing	Jul 08 23:19
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SebthreeBQM10HD	QMC what's that a old OS ?	Jul 08 23:19
razielle_tzu	SebthreeBQM10HD: it's a college in london	Jul 08 23:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	OH	Jul 08 23:19
razielle_tzu	queen mary's	Jul 08 23:20
razielle_tzu	it was the first place in teh uk to get unix iirc	Jul 08 23:20
cubexyz	QMC people wrote the pop library, I thought it was quite clever	Jul 08 23:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	OH	Jul 08 23:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	andindeed Unix was an American thing relly	Jul 08 23:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	e had achorn instad and bbc	Jul 08 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	we	Jul 08 23:21
cubexyz	QMC improved ed and created em	Jul 08 23:21
razielle_tzu	i'm reading an interview on it now	Jul 08 23:21
razielle_tzu	qmc was the first site to get unix (version 4 in 1973) :D	Jul 08 23:22
cubexyz	interesting, I didn't realize it went all the way back to v4	Jul 08 23:22
cubexyz	let me know if you find any v4 source	Jul 08 23:22
razielle_tzu	sure	Jul 08 23:23
cubexyz	I don't think anyone has a complete working Unix v4 now	Jul 08 23:23
razielle_tzu	all i'm finding is wiki pages and interviews, plus some stuff about compiling v4 apps for linux	Jul 08 23:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	or not cubexy anyway he's not old skool enough it turns out!	Jul 08 23:24
razielle_tzu	but cubexyz, here's the interview i'm reading http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/~gc/history/	Jul 08 23:24
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razielle_tzu	it even has some stuff at hte bottom about em	Jul 08 23:25
cubexyz	Seb, it's all relative	Jul 08 23:25
cubexyz	I didn't work on ENIAC so ... :)	Jul 08 23:26
razielle_tzu	that would have been cool to work on	Jul 08 23:26
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razielle_tzu	ENIAC did well to last 9 years of operation given the materials and stuff available	Jul 08 23:30
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cubexyz	sometimes I watch 1940s films just to see the technology of the era	Jul 09 00:14
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 00:16
cubexyz	it was DARPA that really built the computer network to link all the research centres together	Jul 09 00:26
cubexyz	DARPA got interested in Unix, and after that we got enhanced 3BSD for DARPA	Jul 09 00:27
razielle_tzu	ah DARPA :3	Jul 09 00:28
cubexyz	I just think of BSD as a general purpose OS	Jul 09 00:28
razielle_tzu	it is, it's just that most people assume it's just for servers/infrastructure	Jul 09 00:29
cubexyz	but it is a good server OS for sure	Jul 09 00:29
cubexyz	there's even openbsd on PDAs like the Sharp Zaurus...	Jul 09 00:30
cubexyz	I mentioned BSD on Amiga & Vax	Jul 09 00:30
razielle_tzu	one of the rasons BSD isn't as well known is unlike Linux and the rest it doesn't have any real corporate backing/pushers despite how widely it's deployed on the infrastructure of the net	Jul 09 00:31
razielle_tzu	*reasons	Jul 09 00:31
cubexyz	there's some BSD dislike (even hate) in the Linux community	Jul 09 00:34
razielle_tzu	i don't see why though	Jul 09 00:34
cubexyz	I heard that Theo de Raadt kind of is hard to get along with	Jul 09 00:35
cubexyz	and there's the whole BSD vs GPL thing	Jul 09 00:35
razielle_tzu	yeah but Linus is a bitch to get on with too most of the time	Jul 09 00:36
cubexyz	yes... well I can't really argue with that :)	Jul 09 00:36
cubexyz	I was treated fairly well by the old guard Unix people	Jul 09 00:37
razielle_tzu	and tbf licensing arguments are silly, use whatever is appropriate for the project and be done with it	Jul 09 00:37
cubexyz	well I first started chatting in #linux I wasn't treated well	Jul 09 00:37
cubexyz	s/well/when/	Jul 09 00:38
cubexyz	I was from the sysv Unix world, just learning about Linux	Jul 09 00:38
razielle_tzu	i haven't been into any of the dedicated OS channels apart from the openbsd one and even in there i haven't spoken yet... it's not a social channel and i don't need help yet though	Jul 09 00:38
cubexyz	the thing is Unix itself started out pretty open... then it closed up and Linux came along and picked up the slack	Jul 09 00:41
cubexyz	then BSD became open again	Jul 09 00:41
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razielle_tzu	true	Jul 09 00:45
cubexyz	the truth is though, there's a lot of BSD stuff in Linux	Jul 09 00:46
razielle_tzu	there's lot of BSD stuff EVERYWHERE	Jul 09 00:46
razielle_tzu	but it doesn't get brought back into BSD for the most part because of the way the BSD license works	Jul 09 00:46
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cubexyz	I use GPL for my own stuff	Jul 09 00:47
razielle_tzu	i don't know which i'd use for mine, i've got nothing to publish write now so i have't really thought about it	Jul 09 00:48
cubexyz	yeah, GPL for me, I don't really want Microsoft using my code :)	Jul 09 00:48
razielle_tzu	i guess it depends on what i end up doing, some stuff might be GPL, others might by CC	Jul 09 00:49
cubexyz	I've written some Unix v5 code	Jul 09 00:50
cubexyz	but no one looks at that	Jul 09 00:50
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cubexyz	I just wanted to do it... no logical reason really	Jul 09 00:51
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 09 00:51
razielle_tzu	you're right though, almost no one looks at that now	Jul 09 00:51
cubexyz	there's TUHS... the Unix Historical Society	Jul 09 00:51
cubexyz	yeah v5 is interesting	Jul 09 00:51
cubexyz	it's pre-stdio :)	Jul 09 00:52
razielle_tzu	:)	Jul 09 00:52
razielle_tzu	i don't know much about v5 tbh	Jul 09 00:53
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cubexyz	it's not that hard to learn really	Jul 09 01:09
cubexyz	I have a better understanding of the v5 kernel than I do the linux kernel	Jul 09 01:10
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 09 01:10
razielle_tzu	i wouldn't try to run it on this machine though... seems kinda.. indecent to run it on a windows computer even through a linux vm and emulator for it	Jul 09 01:11
cubexyz	you need to see my famous Unix v5 vs Windows 8.1 comparison...	Jul 09 01:14
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/unix-v5-vs-windows-8.1.txt	Jul 09 01:14
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 09 01:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751587516805963776	Jul 09 02:28
TweetTuxMachines	World’s smallest quad-core SBC starts at $8	Jul 09 02:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/djhlMZ9W9S (hackerboards.com)	Jul 09 02:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hackerboards.com \| World’s smallest quad-core Linux SBC starts at $8		Jul 09 02:28
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751587649215950848	Jul 09 02:28
TweetTuxMachines	Debian 8.5 vs. Debian Testing Benchmarks - July 2016	Jul 09 02:28
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/WlVIQAWcco (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 02:28
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Debian 8.5 vs. Debian Testing Benchmarks - July 2016 - Phoronix		Jul 09 02:28
*TweetTuxMachines @psema4 favourited 'World’s smallest quad-core SBC starts at $8 https://t.co/djhlMZ9W9S'		Jul 09 02:28
*TweetTuxMachines @psema4 retweeted @tuxmachines: 'World’s smallest quad-core SBC starts at $8 https://t.co/djhlMZ9W9S'		Jul 09 02:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751589622753492992	Jul 09 02:37
TweetTuxMachines	openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the Week 2016/27	Jul 09 02:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/lRxChNY86g (dominique.leuenberger.net)	Jul 09 02:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dominique.leuenberger.net \| openSUSE Tumbleweed – Review of the Week 2016/27 @ Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)		Jul 09 02:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751590641948303361	Jul 09 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	New wine release https://t.co/8qrvba2XBc	Jul 09 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.gamingonlinux.com) https://t.co/naIbYgos1b	Jul 09 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com) https://t.co/bpxxURu6cL	Jul 09 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.winehq.org) https://t.co/cFSG7kGoSh	Jul 09 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 02:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wine Development Release 1.9.14 Is Now Available \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 09 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Wine 1.9.14 Brings Better Shader Model 5 Support in Direct3D, GDI Improvements		Jul 09 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org \| WineHQ - News - Wine 1.9.14 Released		Jul 09 02:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 1.9.14 Still Working On Shader Model 5, D3D Command Stream - Phoronix		Jul 09 02:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751590954252001281	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	Barony, a 3D first-person roguelike goes open source	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MVO1WPe6T1 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751591226441363456	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	Mesa 12.0.0 3D Graphics Library Released with Vulkan	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	Driver for Intel Hardware https://t.co/p1q8PY9sGp	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 09 02:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751592246382854145	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	Radeon/AMDGPU Updates For The Linux 4.8 Kernel	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/svxCL7XZOr (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 02:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 504 @ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/barony-a-3d-first-person-roguelike-goes-open-source.7594 )		Jul 09 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Mesa 12.0.0 3D Graphics Library Released with Vulkan Driver for Intel Hardware		Jul 09 02:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Radeon/AMDGPU Updates For The Linux 4.8 Kernel - Phoronix		Jul 09 02:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751592649094823936	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	Black Mesa developer shoots down anti-Linux troll,	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	confirms Linux version is in progress	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/75ouNBHrW0 (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 03:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Black Mesa developer shoots down anti-Linux troll, confirms Linux version is in progress \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751592956675719169	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	Fossil Echo, a story-driven, short and challenging 2D	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	platformer confirmed for Linux, coming soon	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xVz7cFxhlP (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 03:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fossil Echo, a story-driven, short and challenging 2D platformer confirmed for Linux, coming soon \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751604020804984832	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	Video: hands-on with Android apps and the Play Store on	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	Chrome OS https://t.co/CZnU8OKiCk	Jul 09 03:31
TweetTuxMachines	(www.androidpolice.com)	Jul 09 03:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidpolice.com \| Video: hands-on with Android apps and the Play Store on Chrome OS		Jul 09 03:31
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751604531910287360	Jul 09 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	Haven Moon rises today on Windows, Mac, and Linux	Jul 09 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wCkvnrMAdF (www.adventuregamers.com)	Jul 09 04:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 04:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Haven Moon rises today on Windows, Mac, and Linux - AdventureGamers.com		Jul 09 04:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751610295659991040	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	Android Comes to Zebra's Enterprise Wrist-Mounted	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	Wearable Computer https://t.co/2k76EwWfh7 (www.eweek.com)	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com \| Android Comes to Zebra's Enterprise Wrist-Mounted Wearable Computer		Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621603511771137	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/aA6CJVUIQa	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 04:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621604539412480	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/5MeAB1Hsow	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621605298573314	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Debian https://t.co/jrQj5wjc8S	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621606061903872	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines	Openwashing https://t.co/wBkmTS2WHn (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 04:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 04:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Debian \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 04:39
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DaemonFC	http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-comcast-data-cap-0710-biz-20160708-story.html	Jul 09 04:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com \| Comcast sets 1 terabyte data cap for Chicago-area internet customers - Chicago Tribune		Jul 09 04:55
DaemonFC	1 TB is pretty hard to get to. I average 200-250 GB a month and I consider myself a pretty heavy user.	Jul 09 04:55
DaemonFC	Of course, I save some data by blocking ads and tracking junk and other garbage in my web browser.	Jul 09 04:56
DaemonFC	Although I'm somewhat dismayed that I have to run a greasemonkey script as an ad blocker blocker blocker. :/	Jul 09 04:56
DaemonFC	More people block ads, so more sites try to block ad blockers.	Jul 09 04:56
cubexyz	oh noes! recursion	Jul 09 04:56
cubexyz	I heard some services stop running ads if you pay them money	Jul 09 04:59
cubexyz	I think even youtube has something... forget what it's called	Jul 09 05:00
cubexyz	youtube red I think	Jul 09 05:00
cubexyz	I don't mind _some_ ads.. I even run a few myself	Jul 09 05:11
cubexyz	no gambling, adult or microsoft ads though	Jul 09 05:11
DaemonFC	Comcast has said that users that near their bandwidth quota for the month will see "in-browser notifications", which I assume means "javascript injection attacks" on the user's browser.	Jul 09 05:24
DaemonFC	This has the potential to break secure websites and trigger a mixed content warning. Even worse, the script from Comcast could see everything you are doing with that page and it could cause security issues.	Jul 09 05:24
DaemonFC	cubexyz, Yeah, my ad blocker blocker blocker gets rid of the notification and lets you see the site.	Jul 09 05:25
DaemonFC	It tricks it into thinking that your ad blocker is off.	Jul 09 05:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751621606766620673	Jul 09 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Software https://t.co/sU4TAzNh22	Jul 09 06:16
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 06:16
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Software \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 06:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Plasma 5.8 LTS Kickerd Off for Stability and...'		Jul 09 06:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'CentOS Atomic Host Update Adds Docker 1.10.3, Built...'		Jul 09 06:16
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'openSUSE Tumbleweed Receives Mesa 12.0.0, LibreOffice 5.2 RC1...'		Jul 09 06:16
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'New wine release https://t.co/8qrvba2XBc https://t.co/naIbYgos1b https://t.co/bpxxURu6cL https://t.co/cFSG7kGoSh'		Jul 09 07:59
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Mesa 12.0.0 3D Graphics Library Released with Vulkan...'		Jul 09 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Wine Development Release 1.9.14 Is Now Available \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 09 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Wine 1.9.14 Brings Better Shader Model 5 Support in Direct3D, GDI Improvements		Jul 09 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.winehq.org \| WineHQ - News - Wine 1.9.14 Released		Jul 09 07:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 1.9.14 Still Working On Shader Model 5, D3D Command Stream - Phoronix		Jul 09 07:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751672580361318401	Jul 09 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	Initial Open-Source GeForce GTX 1000 “Pascal” Nouveau	Jul 09 08:12
TweetTuxMachines	Driver Support https://t.co/CpZk1Glyvc (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 08:12
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Initial Open-Source GeForce GTX 1000 "Pascal" Nouveau Driver Support - Phoronix		Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751673889680420864	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	The world is swimming in open source, but only one	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	company is making any money https://t.co/i4o49J4yBl	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The world is swimming in open source, but only one company is making any money - TechRepublic		Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675474619740160	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	The world is swimming in open source, but only one	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	company is making any money https://t.co/giIgvoGNdQ	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 08:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The world is swimming in open source, but only one company is making any money \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675475974451200	Jul 09 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/mKCzprbiyy	Jul 09 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 08:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675476737814528	Jul 09 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	OSS in the Back End https://t.co/5Lt9eCw8Bh	Jul 09 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 08:14
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| OSS in the Back End \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675473738932224	Jul 09 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	Linux at 25, Windows Alternatives, Tumbleweed Latest	Jul 09 08:14
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/92DiUAFwJP (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 08:14
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751692184831729665	Jul 09 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	TeamViewer Alternatives for Linux https://t.co/KrpqqFFg3h	Jul 09 10:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 10:34
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*TweetTuxMachines @maxmeranda favourited 'Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of...'		Jul 09 13:05
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godo_	Hi, is here a place to ask a question about a post from Roy on EPO?	Jul 09 13:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751749037813067776	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	A classic MMO goes open source, The Other 99 comes to	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, and more gaming news	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/L4KobXN8IK (opensource.com)	Jul 09 13:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open gaming roundup for July 3-9, 2016 \| Opensource.com		Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751752049574965248	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	Qualcomm Told Google About The Android Encryption Flaw In	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	2014, So Why The Delay To Patch It?	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2xBWmFrxoq (www.techtimes.com)	Jul 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtimes.com \| Qualcomm Told Google About The Android Encryption Flaw In 2014, So Why The Delay To Patch It? : TECH : Tech Times		Jul 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751757226159796226	Jul 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	Security Leftovers https://t.co/cFQYuGH8uT	Jul 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751757227095040000	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/yhtJXjkwQA	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 13:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS and Sharing \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751757227850018816	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/nI8nLGGuMJ	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 13:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751757228554629120	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/gVLbrw3Lzx	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751757229234069504	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/lhxuOVEzA7	Jul 09 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 09 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751757579903197184	Jul 09 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	Links 9/7/2016: Skype Hype, Wine 1.9.14	Jul 09 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/o6wJ9IocTo (techrights.org)	Jul 09 14:50
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 14:50
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 9/7/2016: Skype Hype, Wine 1.9.14 https://t.co/o6wJ9IocTo'		Jul 09 14:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751792072936521733	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	The State Of Debian's Paid Long Term Support Project	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8BdQdDiCQ2 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 16:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The State Of Debian's Paid Long Term Support Project - Phoronix		Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751792546574131200	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	Have you seen Black Ice? A really rather cool hack and	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	shoot FPS with Linux & SteamOS support	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IWoGCk7TFj (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 16:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Have you seen Black Ice? A really rather cool hack and shoot FPS with Linux & SteamOS support \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 09 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751793128072474625	Jul 09 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	TeamViewer Alternatives for Linux https://t.co/FzUPPHXl91	Jul 09 16:24
TweetTuxMachines	(freedompenguin.com)	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 09 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-freedompenguin.com \| TeamViewer Alternatives for Linux - Freedom Penguin		Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751794278557478914	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Released With New Features — A	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	Blazing Fast 16MB Linux Distro https://t.co/a7EDwPI8bl	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	(fossbytes.com)	Jul 09 16:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossbytes.com \| Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Released With New Features — A Blazing Fast 16MB Linux Distro		Jul 09 16:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751794816556687360	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	Trying The Radeon RX 480 & R9 Fury With The AMDGPU Code	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	For Linux 4.8 https://t.co/SXgdo925Of (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 16:25
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DaemonFC	https://www.thenation.com/article/orwell-in-puerto-rico-congress-promises-a-new-dictatorship/	Jul 09 19:16
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DaemonFC	This would never happen to a state.	Jul 09 19:16
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: colony	Jul 09 19:45
schestowitz	they use a euphemism, "territory"	Jul 09 19:45
schestowitz	and give them barely any rights	Jul 09 19:46
schestowitz	except maybe the right to acquire a credit card :/	Jul 09 19:46
DaemonFC	schestowitz, No way to avoid paying the debt unless they disconnect from the global banking system entirely.	Jul 09 19:48
DaemonFC	Then they should go ahead with their original debt restructuring plan and ignore Congress.	Jul 09 19:49
DaemonFC	At this point, it's hard to imagine their situation getting much worse.	Jul 09 19:49
DaemonFC	http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/07/04/hate-taxes-move-to-tax-free-puerto-rico-stay-american-avoid-irs/#6d418c7d38e2	Jul 09 20:29
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DaemonFC	Millionaires moving there for low taxes.	Jul 09 20:29
DaemonFC	The entire tax rate is only 4%.	Jul 09 20:30
DaemonFC	That would just barely cover the Illinois income tax.	Jul 09 20:30
DaemonFC	You'd still have your entire federal tax bill. The federal tax bracket for most people is 15%.	Jul 09 20:30
DaemonFC	Of course, regular working-class Americans wouldn't be able to move to Puerto Rico. There's really no job opportunities there.	Jul 09 20:31
DaemonFC	But the people who are already rich and don't need work can move there to evade their tax bill and keep their US citizenship.	Jul 09 20:31
DaemonFC	schestowitz, I thought about applying for citizenship in Canada once.	Jul 09 20:32
DaemonFC	A company that I worked for offered to move me to Toronto and get me a work visa, but Canadian citizenship is pretty tough to get.	Jul 09 20:32
DaemonFC	Unlike America, they actually have immigration laws that are enforced, to the letter.	Jul 09 20:33
DaemonFC	If you try to move there illegally, you won't be able to get a job or rent an apartment. Without a valid SIN number, employers and landlords there actually WILL call immigration on you.	Jul 09 20:33
DaemonFC	That's why there's only about 35,000 illegal immigrants in all of Canada, and most of them are in relatives basements.	Jul 09 20:33
DaemonFC	You can't get a job, rent an apartment, or open a bank account.	Jul 09 20:34
cubexyz	ok, the new Sony TVs have Android... at least some of them	Jul 09 20:34
DaemonFC	In the US all you have to do is hop the border and try to avoid encounters with the police.	Jul 09 20:34
DaemonFC	Crooked landlords and businessmen are everywhere.	Jul 09 20:34
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: i thought some of them might be android	Jul 09 20:35
DaemonFC	They'll process a fake Social Security number that belongs to someone else, and the federal government doesn't really look into it as long as the illegal immigrant is paying their taxes.	Jul 09 20:35
cubexyz	my streamer isn't even on the supported list	Jul 09 20:35
cubexyz	12,134 devices	Jul 09 20:35
DaemonFC	Social Security has this thing called a Suspension account where they put all of the money that they can't track back to a legitimate tax return.	Jul 09 20:35
DaemonFC	It has tens of billions of dollars in it at any given time. They use it to buy treasury bills, and earn interest. The interest goes into the Social Security trust fund immediately. The principal is taken after several years of not being able to track down who has paid it.	Jul 09 20:36
DaemonFC	So illegal immigrants are basically propping up Social Security. They're paying billions of dollars in taxes each year into a system they'll never draw benefits from.	Jul 09 20:37
DaemonFC	Social Security looks a lot more closely at BENEFIT PAYOUTS than it does money coming in. :)	Jul 09 20:37
cubexyz	the new paradigm will be: work 'till you drop :)	Jul 09 20:37
razielle_tzu	i thought was laredy happening	Jul 09 20:38
razielle_tzu	*already	Jul 09 20:38
DaemonFC	cubexyz, Yeah. They're "raising the retirement age" slowly enough that most people don't notice.	Jul 09 20:38
DaemonFC	My grandparents got full Social Security benefits at 65. My parents will have to wait until they're 66.5.	Jul 09 20:38
DaemonFC	I'll have to wait until I'm 67. My brother will have to be 68.	Jul 09 20:38
DaemonFC	Rich people who eat a steady diet of gourmet food and get all the medical care they need are living to be 100, so they use that to justify cutting benefits for janitors and bus drivers.	Jul 09 20:39
cubexyz	gourmet food isn't necessarily healthy...	Jul 09 20:39
DaemonFC	Most of the victims of Social Security are black people.	Jul 09 20:40
DaemonFC	Statistically, they die before they cost Social Security much/any money.	Jul 09 20:40
cubexyz	why is that?	Jul 09 20:41
DaemonFC	When you have them paying in their whole life and statistically they die at 69-70, and white people live to be 80-82....	Jul 09 20:41
DaemonFC	White people are on the system for 15-17 years. Blacks are on the system for 4-5.	Jul 09 20:41
DaemonFC	So Social Security takes money from poor black people and gives it to middle class white people.	Jul 09 20:42
DaemonFC	cubexyz, Whenever you have a pension system ran by the government, there's going to be problems.	Jul 09 20:44
DaemonFC	Thieving politicians can't help but be tempted to raid a pile of cash to spend immediately, putting in IOUs.	Jul 09 20:44
cubexyz	what's the alternative? Pensions run by private companies?	Jul 09 20:44
DaemonFC	The state of Illinois is one of the worst examples of this.	Jul 09 20:44
DaemonFC	The state literally has about a quarter in assets for every dollar in liabilities.	Jul 09 20:45
DaemonFC	cubexyz, I think they should switch to a defined benefit pension.	Jul 09 20:45
DaemonFC	Let workers decide what they want to do with their money.	Jul 09 20:45
DaemonFC	Most workers in America have to do this anyway, in addition to putting money into an insolvent government pension program.	Jul 09 20:46
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DaemonFC	We know that if nothing is done, Social Security's trust fund will run out of treasury bills in the year 2033, and it will only pay out about 76% of promised benefits, because it will only be able to spend the taxes it is collecting.	Jul 09 20:47
DaemonFC	Now, the average benefit per month is about $1,200, which is hard to live on even without a cut.	Jul 09 20:47
DaemonFC	After the cut, the average payment will be just $912 a month.	Jul 09 20:47
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DaemonFC	Out of that, you then have to pay your Medicare premiums.	Jul 09 20:48
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DaemonFC	Because you can't sign up for Social Security and refuse Medicare.	Jul 09 20:48
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DaemonFC	So people who depend on Social Security will be living on about $790 a month.	Jul 09 20:48
DaemonFC	And it's unclear where you can do that.	Jul 09 20:48
DaemonFC	Probably not in the United States.	Jul 09 20:48
cubexyz	Iowa?	Jul 09 20:49
cubexyz	things seemed less expensive there	Jul 09 20:49
DaemonFC	Well, if you already own your home, then maybe.	Jul 09 20:49
DaemonFC	If you're paying on a mortgage/rent you're talking $500-600 a month just to stay in your home.	Jul 09 20:50
DaemonFC	And that doesn't include gas/electric.	Jul 09 20:50
DaemonFC	or food.	Jul 09 20:50
DaemonFC	So you need a private retirement account anyway.	Jul 09 20:50
DaemonFC	I told John to put 5% of his salary in the Thrift Savings Plan because it would be stupid not to.	Jul 09 20:51
DaemonFC	They match him 100% up to that amount, so not contributing 5% would be really dumb.	Jul 09 20:51
DaemonFC	Then once it's in there, you can choose what index funds to invest in.	Jul 09 20:51
DaemonFC	Some people just put it all into government bonds. They don't earn much, but it's considered a guaranteed thing.	Jul 09 20:52
DaemonFC	If you put 100% into the G fund, you're getting the same deal that Social Security gets.	Jul 09 20:52
DaemonFC	But it's in an individual account, not a government "social insurance" program, so it's still your money.	Jul 09 20:52
DaemonFC	The performance of the stock market funds has been so bad in the last year that the government bonds fund has outperformed it!	Jul 09 20:54
DaemonFC	The interest rate on US government bonds is at record lows right now.	Jul 09 20:56
DaemonFC	It can get away with barely paying any interest because the rest of the world is a bigger mess. Some countries are actually making you pay them to loan them your money. :)	Jul 09 20:56
DaemonFC	I have a feeling that there will be a massive correction in the stock market at some point. It's unprecedented that stocks are incredibly high while bonds are so low.	Jul 09 20:59
DaemonFC	people don't typically dive into the bond market unless they they don't see a better choice.	Jul 09 20:59
DaemonFC	Of course, the other explanation is that the bonds are low because the Federal Reserve and foreign investors are buying them as a way of keeping their money in a safe place while their own government is punishing them for buying domestic bonds.	Jul 09 21:00
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DaemonFC	http://www.utilitydive.com/news/comed-jumps-on-the-demand-charge-train-with-new-illinois-proposal/418735/	Jul 09 23:10
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DaemonFC	I managed to avoid paying People's Gas and Electric for gas service. I had the landlord remove the gas stove and put a cap on the pipe, and then I bought a huge toaster oven and some hot plates from Walmart.	Jul 09 23:10
DaemonFC	It costs about $20 a month to have the gas on even if you don't do anything with it except keep the pilot light in your oven going.	Jul 09 23:11
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DaemonFC	I would hope that Spotify files a lawsuit against Apple.	Jul 03 02:17
razielle_tzu	that would be cool	Jul 03 02:17
DaemonFC	If Apple is really abusing their app store monopoly to keep Spotify out because they don't want to compete with it, then that's illegal.	Jul 03 02:17
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 03 02:17
MinceR	it would also be cool if companies abused by crApple made an alliance and started promoting android	Jul 03 02:18
MinceR	to their customers	Jul 03 02:18
DaemonFC	But Apple has a record of locking competitors and software they don't want out of the app store and then being pedantic about "Oh, well, this is a problem!" and then you fix that, and "Oh, that's a problem too." so you fix that, and on and on it goes, for months.	Jul 03 02:18
DaemonFC	Usually the victim just gives up and stops trying to publish their app.	Jul 03 02:18
razielle_tzu	so i've seen	Jul 03 02:18
DaemonFC	Each time they reject it, you have to fix the problem they told you about and submit the app again, and it takes 2-3 weeks for them to review it and point out the next problem.	Jul 03 02:19
DaemonFC	So they can stall you out for 6 months by pointing out 7-8 bugs in your app one at a time.	Jul 03 02:19
razielle_tzu	i know a few am-devs that gave up on devving for the apple store after the third submission	Jul 03 02:19
DaemonFC	Meanwhile, their own software has thousands of bugs and they don't seem to be in any hurry to do much about that.	Jul 03 02:19
razielle_tzu	they don't feel the need on rushing because they think most users won't go elsewhere	Jul 03 02:20
DaemonFC	Not an honest company. It's so much easier to get your app published in the Google Play or Microsoft stores.	Jul 03 02:20
DaemonFC	Cheaper too.	Jul 03 02:20
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 03 02:20
DaemonFC	Hmm, those guys are still working on the exterior of our building.	Jul 03 02:21
razielle_tzu	and heaven forbid you try to publish on both google and apple	Jul 03 02:21
DaemonFC	They speak Spanish so I'm assuming that they hired day laborers. Probably not in the country legally, but damn they are hard workers.	Jul 03 02:21
DaemonFC	10-12 hour days, on weekends too!	Jul 03 02:22
cubexyz	yes but aren't all those apps or whatever closed source?	Jul 03 02:22
DaemonFC	They usually are.	Jul 03 02:22
DaemonFC	You can have open source software in the app store as long as it doesn't require Apple to provide any source code to the person who gets it.	Jul 03 02:23
DaemonFC	That's what got VLC thrown out.	Jul 03 02:23
DaemonFC	And even if you did get the source code, there'd be no way of running your modified version of the app because the iPhone enforces Apple's package signature requirement.	Jul 03 02:24
razielle_tzu	i try to use f-droid for stuff but there's some stuff that isn't updated anywhere but the google store	Jul 03 02:24
cubexyz	so it's basically a regression back to 1980s software	Jul 03 02:24
cubexyz	closed firmware, closed apps, closed everything	Jul 03 02:24
DaemonFC	Android and Windows Phone both let you run unsigned apps.	Jul 03 02:24
DaemonFC	Not by default, but they each have a toggle switch that lets you do it after a mandatory "At your own risk. You could get malware." warning.	Jul 03 02:25
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 03 02:25
cubexyz	well, except for busybox of course	Jul 03 02:25
cubexyz	I suppose the open source stuff would just be free as in beer to download	Jul 03 02:26
DaemonFC	No, you can modify and compile and run it on Windows Phone and Android.	Jul 03 02:28
DaemonFC	You just have to enable apps from outside their store.	Jul 03 02:29
DaemonFC	But you need to be careful about that. 90-95% of the total malware for Android that ends up on peoples phones got there from an app that was from outside the store.	Jul 03 02:29
DaemonFC	So, you definitely want to favor the store unless you trust the app.	Jul 03 02:29
MinceR	at least in the 1980s they didn't abuse cryptography in an attempt to lock you out of your own computers	Jul 03 02:30
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 03 02:31
cubexyz	kindle? Ipad?	Jul 03 02:35
cubexyz	deleting files remotely? :)	Jul 03 02:36
cubexyz	what computer(s) would lock you out?	Jul 03 02:37
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MinceR	http://i.imgur.com/02Fukj6.gif	Jul 03 02:48
cubexyz	that widget style looks vaguely familiar	Jul 03 02:56
MinceR	:)	Jul 03 02:57
MinceR	it's late pre-X macos, isn't it?	Jul 03 02:57
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cubexyz	I thought it looked like Sunview actually	Jul 03 02:58
cubexyz	but you're probably right	Jul 03 02:59
MinceR	in other words, the best macos ever looked	Jul 03 02:59
oiaohm	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_8#/media/File:MacOS81_screenshot.png	Jul 03 03:06
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oiaohm	MinceR: look at that one	Jul 03 03:06
MinceR	indeed	Jul 03 03:07
cubexyz	I'm surprised you thought any macos was good	Jul 03 03:07
oiaohm	Its Mac OS 8 or 9	Jul 03 03:08
MinceR	i don't think it's good, i'm only saying it's the one that looked the best	Jul 03 03:08
oiaohm	Mac OS 7 has a different interface design.	Jul 03 03:08
MinceR	the period between melt-your-eyes-white and puddles-of-blue-ink-on-ruled-paper	Jul 03 03:08
MinceR	(also cryptic window operation buttons for the latter)	Jul 03 03:09
oiaohm	The give away http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/desktop/full/macos70.png is the change windows size bit in conner.	Jul 03 03:10
cubexyz	it's got a late 90s look at any rate	Jul 03 03:10
cubexyz	IE 4.0 etc	Jul 03 03:10
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MinceR	i didn't notice 7.0 being different from earlier versions before	Jul 03 03:11
oiaohm	The three lines for windows resize in conner is Mac OS 8 or 9 with that style of title bar its the only thing it could be.	Jul 03 03:11
oiaohm	MinceR: it minor.	Jul 03 03:11
oiaohm	Its the windows resize thing that is the gui clue.	Jul 03 03:12
cubexyz	think about how much control you have on Linux/BSD then compare that to macos	Jul 03 03:12
oiaohm	It really shows I use to service Apple machines in the 1990s does it not.	Jul 03 03:13
MinceR	:>	Jul 03 03:13
MinceR	and think about how red hat is plotting to take all that control away	Jul 03 03:13
oiaohm	Really redhat does not use CLA or items like that. Ubuntu is still a larger worry.	Jul 03 03:14
cubexyz	I used _old_ redhat/fedora	Jul 03 03:14
MinceR	redhat merely uses systemd and a thicket of dependencies on it	Jul 03 03:15
MinceR	which they will attempt to grow, no doubt	Jul 03 03:15
MinceR	canonical just does whatever redhat makes them do via debian	Jul 03 03:15
oiaohm	Now if Ubuntu did not have CLA on upstart there would most likely not be the systemd mess now.	Jul 03 03:15
MinceR	and of course now both rh and canonical are licking m$'s boots	Jul 03 03:16
oiaohm	Redhat has had many different deals over the years with Microsoft most cases ending up back stabing Microsoft.	Jul 03 03:16
oiaohm	Canonical does not have that history so is a little more of a worry.	Jul 03 03:16
MinceR	i suspect m$ will end up backstabbing rh via uefi	Jul 03 03:17
oiaohm	To be correct Microsoft first attempt to stab Rh and others with UEFI	Jul 03 03:17
oiaohm	Then with redhat force we got means to change platform key.	Jul 03 03:17
cubexyz	but the android media streamers/tablets don't use UEFI right?	Jul 03 03:18
oiaohm	The idea Microsoft wanted is platform key of UEFI would be locked in rom for good.	Jul 03 03:18
MinceR	on arm, they probably use other means to lock the device down	Jul 03 03:18
MinceR	though usually you can unlock them	Jul 03 03:18
MinceR	often by signing away warranties	Jul 03 03:18
oiaohm	Arm already has a stock of lockdown methods.	Jul 03 03:18
oiaohm	Right down to only loading signed firmware.	Jul 03 03:18
cubexyz	ok, so what should I buy to get android + open firmware?	Jul 03 03:19
oiaohm	Basically arm makers had already done what intel is doing now where the firmware unsigned would not load.	Jul 03 03:19
oiaohm	Due to fused bits.	Jul 03 03:19
oiaohm	and due to repair problems arm makers have been moving away from it.	Jul 03 03:20
cubexyz	wasn't there something called Replicant?	Jul 03 03:20
oiaohm	Really FSF when it comes to this stuff is idiots.	Jul 03 03:20
razielle_tzu	yeah they are	Jul 03 03:21
oiaohm	Yes http://www.replicant.us/ exists.	Jul 03 03:21
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oiaohm	Yes it makes the same mistakes as libreboot	Jul 03 03:21
MinceR	and it has problems on most devices, if it can be booted at all	Jul 03 03:22
MinceR	even nexus devices started relying on nonfree drivers a long time ago, iirc	Jul 03 03:22
oiaohm	If a bit of hardware that takes firmware uploading still works without uploading firmware you can bet the bugger has a default firmware you cannot see that might be security flawed.	Jul 03 03:22
oiaohm	MinceR: define non free.	Jul 03 03:22
MinceR	see the Free Software Definition	Jul 03 03:22
MinceR	https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html	Jul 03 03:23
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oiaohm	Some define non free as not being able to see the source code of the firmware. Some define it as not being able to change the firmware.	Jul 03 03:23
oiaohm	Of course FSF takes the most strict.	Jul 03 03:23
oiaohm	Now this is a big problem.	Jul 03 03:23
oiaohm	Due to legal requirement on hardware vendor might not be allowed by law in lots of places to allow you to alter particular firmware.	Jul 03 03:24
oiaohm	Of course that does not mean it has to be a black box.	Jul 03 03:24
oiaohm	Hardware is hard.	Jul 03 03:25
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cubexyz	I found some nice source code for an opengl analog clock	Jul 03 03:27
oiaohm	MinceR: the reality of the legal world we don't have the legal right to modify everything without having special permissions. Like its illegal for a unlicensed person to broadcast on lots of radio freqs and it a lot of places it illegal to sell gear that direct allows people todo that.	Jul 03 03:27
cubexyz	it works just like some real analog clocks with smoothly moving second and minute hands	Jul 03 03:27
oiaohm	One of the stupid examples that was found by modifying harddrive firmware a guy was able to make a one directional GSM phone call.	Jul 03 03:28
oiaohm	So there is a lot of hardware in computers incorrectly configured could cause major radio nightmares.	Jul 03 03:29
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oiaohm	MinceR: my problem is with FSF defines on hardware is how to be safe with radio in particular when you wake up how much when controlled incorrectly can transmit. Of course I absolutely don't agree that the firmware should be a black box we should be able to see the source code and build the source code and check that the signed binary matches it so we can trust it.	Jul 03 03:32
MinceR	yeah, legal requirements mandating our computers to be crippled are a bummer	Jul 03 03:32
MinceR	until that is fixed, we could have neatly isolated hw components doing that part of the work	Jul 03 03:33
oiaohm	MinceR: we have DOS attacks against electronic networks now if that is done against critical radio networks that could cause a major disaster.	Jul 03 03:33
MinceR	with well documented interfaces	Jul 03 03:33
MinceR	and free software drivers	Jul 03 03:33
MinceR	yeah, i know, there's always an excuse for taking our rights away	Jul 03 03:34
MinceR	it's one of the first things they come up with	Jul 03 03:34
MinceR	and typically all these lockdowns can't even prevent the sorts of abuses you're talking about	Jul 03 03:34
oiaohm	There have been examples of it happening due to defective products produced.	Jul 03 03:34
MinceR	yeah, let's punish the customers for defective products	Jul 03 03:35
oiaohm	black box allows defective products out there that have caused the nightmare before.	Jul 03 03:35
oiaohm	So we need a balance point.	Jul 03 03:35
MinceR	it would be unthinkable for the oligarchs to get the whip every once in a while	Jul 03 03:35
MinceR	there's no balance here	Jul 03 03:35
oiaohm	There kinda is source code with reproducable build for all firmware.	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	there's only a seemingly unstoppable march into a dark future, a new dark age	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	where we're all slaves and we all worship ignorance	Jul 03 03:36
oiaohm	So you can inspect if firmware has any hidden evil.	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	and if you find it, what then?	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	you're not allowed to fix it	Jul 03 03:36
MinceR	you'll just be forced to accept that you've been given malevolent hardware	Jul 03 03:37
oiaohm	If the firmware has hidden evil you have to suppect the silicon is also sus.	Jul 03 03:37
oiaohm	So its don't use that vendor.	Jul 03 03:37
MinceR	implying any of the vendors do differently	Jul 03 03:37
MinceR	implying there _is_ another vendor	Jul 03 03:38
oiaohm	There are 40+ CPU vendors.	Jul 03 03:38
MinceR	in a world where microsoft, and the Token Designated Competition, apple, has government-appointed control over all of IT	Jul 03 03:38
oiaohm	Linux in governments is getting more of a foot hold all the time.	Jul 03 03:39
MinceR	"Linux" has no money to spend on bribes	Jul 03 03:39
MinceR	and it shows	Jul 03 03:39
MinceR	our pc-s come locked into windows, with arcane trickery necessary to liberate them	Jul 03 03:39
razielle_tzu	it really does	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	what's worse, they're actually locked into Backdoors10, which is malware	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	but apparently nobody gives a fuck anymore	Jul 03 03:40
oiaohm	True but being hacked and having the fact you have taken bribes being published is a political sides nightmare.	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	crApple made locked-down, backdoored, closed platforms acceptab	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	le	Jul 03 03:40
cubexyz	some of us are running coreboot on old computers	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	m$ made malware acceptable	Jul 03 03:40
MinceR	people happily pay for m$ and crApple zombie computers and even pay the power and internet bills	Jul 03 03:41
MinceR	bring on the asteroid, it's time to start over again	Jul 03 03:43
oiaohm	MinceR: you want see stupidty. http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-wanted-hillary-clinton-to-use-this-secure-windows-phone/	Jul 03 03:43
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MinceR	i don't really want to see stupidity, but nowadays there's just nowhere to look to not see it	Jul 03 03:43
MinceR	well, at least it isn't winblows phony	Jul 03 03:44
oiaohm	MinceR: look again its Windows CE.	Jul 03 03:44
MinceR	yeah, winblows mobile	Jul 03 03:44
cubexyz	I bet she didn't trust the NSA :)	Jul 03 03:44
DaemonFC	http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-prepares-one-final-full-screen-get-windows-10-nag/	Jul 03 03:44
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MinceR	at least that was a smartphone OS, with multitasking and clipboard	Jul 03 03:44
cubexyz	hence using her own server	Jul 03 03:45
DaemonFC	Microsoft is altering the Windows 10 Upgrade nag screen.	Jul 03 03:45
oiaohm	Discontinued OS no longer getting any updates.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	unlike the garbage they replaced it with	Jul 03 03:45
oiaohm	MinceR: with known security flaws.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	duh	Jul 03 03:45
oiaohm	MinceR: in otherwords hackable.	Jul 03 03:45
DaemonFC	It's going to be full screen and it will have a huge warning that it won't be free after July 29th.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	it has the warning sign for severe security flaws right on the ui	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	a windows logo.	Jul 03 03:45
DaemonFC	I figured they would do something like this. Get people panicked. Thinking it's an urgent upgrade.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	"hackable" would actually be a good thing	Jul 03 03:45
DaemonFC	Well, it is, for gamers anyway.	Jul 03 03:45
MinceR	of course most "journalists" today have no idea what "hack" means	Jul 03 03:46
DaemonFC	As usual, they held the latest DirectX upgrade hostage.	Jul 03 03:46
DaemonFC	Get Windows 10 or not DirectX upgrade.	Jul 03 03:46
MinceR	get Devuan and you'll have SDL and OpenGL.	Jul 03 03:46
cubexyz	herding the sheeple onto Windows 10! :)	Jul 03 03:46
oiaohm	DaemonFC: there are a lot of clues windows 10 is going to change to subscription model.	Jul 03 03:46
DaemonFC	Eventually games will have a DX 12 mode that's faster and with better graphics, or it'll be DX 12 only.	Jul 03 03:46
oiaohm	So Microsoft needs as many as possible to change to be trapped.	Jul 03 03:46
MinceR	better pay every month so you get to use the "computer" you "bought"!	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	Hmm, sounds unethical.	Jul 03 03:47
MinceR	it would be a shame if something happened to your data	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	Someone should sue them if they do that.	Jul 03 03:47
MinceR	but it couldn't have been anything important if you trusted a m$ product with them, right?	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	I don't think that the model will change much.	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	The base OS will be "free" but extras won't be.	Jul 03 03:47
MinceR	i wonder if the ruins of the "justice" "system" will do anything if someone attempts to sue m$	Jul 03 03:47
DaemonFC	They're doing ads on the lock screen now.	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	enraged masses could of course still hang the board of directors	Jul 03 03:48
razielle_tzu	it seems unlikely that anyone will do anything if that's how m$ plays it	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	but that won't happen	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	people love their malware	Jul 03 03:48
DaemonFC	MinceR, They almost did during the 90s, but the Supreme Court reversed it.	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	and they can hardly wait to be enslaved	Jul 03 03:48
DaemonFC	Microsoft was going to be split up into several companies like the government did with AT&T in the 80s.	Jul 03 03:48
MinceR	it should have been split into atoms	Jul 03 03:48
oiaohm	I like this term 'The Supported Lifetime of Your Device' Devices means as long as your motherboard lasts.	Jul 03 03:49
oiaohm	From Microsoft.	Jul 03 03:49
cubexyz	well, motherboards can last a long time	Jul 03 03:49
DaemonFC	Well, if you look at the roadmap, you get several years of support.	Jul 03 03:49
oiaohm	cubexyz: or less than 3 months if you get a dud.	Jul 03 03:49
MinceR	they weren't exactly concrete about what qualifies as a new computer, actually	Jul 03 03:49
DaemonFC	It says "Windows 10 as released in 2015" or something.	Jul 03 03:49
DaemonFC	I think they're going to support the Anniversary Upgrade longer	Jul 03 03:50
MinceR	if you let m$ have control, expect to be screwed hard	Jul 03 03:50
oiaohm	cubexyz: if a motherboard last longer than 3 months it normally good for 7 to 8 years without issues.	Jul 03 03:50
DaemonFC	Having people using several versions of Windows has been a disaster.	Jul 03 03:50
MinceR	>having people using windows has been a disaster	Jul 03 03:50
MinceR	FTFY	Jul 03 03:50
DaemonFC	They need to get more people using the same version or else developers will see the oldest one that still has a large userbase as their development target.	Jul 03 03:50
oiaohm	MinceR: Microsoft has become strict on windows 10.	Jul 03 03:51
oiaohm	MinceR: it defined as the motherboard id.	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	oh, i'm sure	Jul 03 03:51
DaemonFC	We saw where that went. Windows XP was the development target forever and DirectX 9 was the target for games.	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	it's not like they ever lied to anybody	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-hardware/hardware-changes-post-windows-10-upgrade/24ccc0d2-c2e0-4762-80b5-12c9350a694c?auth=1	Jul 03 03:51
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DaemonFC	A few had DX 10/11 modes, but they had to support obsolete APIs or else half of Windows users couldn't buy the software, which would put the developer out of business.	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	note that the m$ employees have no idea either	Jul 03 03:51
MinceR	hm, apparently they eventually got what looks like a straight answer	Jul 03 03:52
DaemonFC	MinceR, The stated policy and what they do are two different things.	Jul 03 03:52
MinceR	indeed	Jul 03 03:53
MinceR	i wonder who exactly elected microsoft to be trusted with all this power	Jul 03 03:53
DaemonFC	When my motherboard failed and I needed to reactivate Windows, I called Microsoft and they said don't worry about it and gave me a new product activation code.	Jul 03 03:53
MinceR	i don't seem to remember any election or referendum on the matter	Jul 03 03:53
oiaohm	This case Microsoft has long last stop doing mix of id across the system to work out if the machine has changed.	Jul 03 03:53
DaemonFC	Even though the EULA says it's tied to the motherboard.	Jul 03 03:53
DaemonFC	OEM anyway	Jul 03 03:53
oiaohm	Windows 10 is cleaner on activation as it just tied to motherboard.	Jul 03 03:53
oiaohm	DaemonFC: there is no difference between OEM and Retail with windows 10	Jul 03 03:54
DaemonFC	Yeah, Windows 10 is much less restrictive.	Jul 03 03:54
oiaohm	Not really.	Jul 03 03:54
DaemonFC	XP/Vista/7 would look at several components.	Jul 03 03:54
DaemonFC	If you made too many changes, then it would deactivate itself.	Jul 03 03:54
oiaohm	Windows 8.1 and before retail you could change the motherboard as much as you liked as it was a active copy license not hardware bound.	Jul 03 03:54
DaemonFC	Like, you upgrade the RAM, then you put in a new hard drive, and bam, you're unactivated again.	Jul 03 03:54
cubexyz	what if you changed your motherboard's firmware? What would happen then?	Jul 03 03:55
oiaohm	Basically Microsoft just nuked the active copy license.	Jul 03 03:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: if changing the motherboard firmware happens to change the motherboards id your screwed.	Jul 03 03:55
DaemonFC	oiaohm, That hasn't been the case in my experience.	Jul 03 03:55
DaemonFC	And you shouldn't be updating the motherboard firmware unless you have to.	Jul 03 03:56
oiaohm	DaemonFC: normally changing firmware motherboards id does not change is correct. A few cases putting on particular boards coreboot and other things you can set the motherboard id to what ever you want.	Jul 03 03:56
DaemonFC	Like you get a new CPU and it doesn't support it, but the firmware is included in an update.	Jul 03 03:56
MinceR	i wonder what sort of brain damage causes nsa people to look for a windows-based "solution" to a security problem	Jul 03 03:57
MinceR	i can sort of see why they try to destroy IT security for their own citizens and for people all around the world	Jul 03 03:57
MinceR	but for their own presidential staff?	Jul 03 03:57
oiaohm	MinceR: a non maintained Windows solution as a security solution. Not just a windows based solution.	Jul 03 03:57
razielle_tzu	they assume people can't use anything else?	Jul 03 03:57
oiaohm	MinceR: yes you have to wonder what kind of brain dead is in the NSA.	Jul 03 03:57
MinceR	they haven't heard of training courses?	Jul 03 03:57
DaemonFC	I keep a hosts file loaded that blocks out ads and malicious sites.	Jul 03 03:58
DaemonFC	Then I do the same thing with Adblock Plus in Firefox.	Jul 03 03:58
MinceR	i can see the reasoning behind trying to collect all the data in the world to try and do insider trading	Jul 03 03:58
oiaohm	DaemonFC: the stupid part I have a few boards without a motherboard ID at all.	Jul 03 03:58
DaemonFC	And then I loaded Anti-Adblock killer to stop sites from blocking me if they detect Adblock.	Jul 03 03:58
oiaohm	DaemonFC: I really wonder what windows 10 would do if I moved it between them.	Jul 03 03:58
MinceR	but i can't possibly see what profit the nsa might hope to gain from compromising IT security for their own government	Jul 03 03:58
MinceR	perhaps they want to break in and control them that way, but it seems unnecessary	Jul 03 03:59
DaemonFC	So I don't get too many interruptions in my browsing.	Jul 03 03:59
DaemonFC	Saves bandwidth too.	Jul 03 03:59
MinceR	oiaohm: you would discover that it's not only motherboard ID after all. :>	Jul 03 03:59
MinceR	or you'd find exciting new bugs	Jul 03 04:00
MinceR	or both	Jul 03 04:00
oiaohm	MinceR: or it would magically work.	Jul 03 04:00
MinceR	unlikely	Jul 03 04:00
MinceR	they don't seem to settle for things working if you get lucky, they try to break everything they touch	Jul 03 04:00
oiaohm	I would not say unlikely. I do know with windows 8.1 last patch these boards you can move the drive between them without any activation triggers.	Jul 03 04:01
MinceR	:)	Jul 03 04:01
cubexyz	the motherboard ID is in the bios? Shouldn't be a problem	Jul 03 04:01
oiaohm	MinceR: by the way 1 board is intel 1 board in amd and 1 board is via.	Jul 03 04:02
oiaohm	So yes activation trigger was kinda expected and when it did not happen it was what the.	Jul 03 04:02
MinceR	:)	Jul 03 04:02
oiaohm	cubexyz: depends on design. development boards it can be in bios standard boards it normally in e-fuses so not changable.	Jul 03 04:04
oiaohm	MinceR: the fun of having proto hardware is having stuff missing normal id markers.	Jul 03 04:04
cubexyz	there's a BIOS ID which should tell you which manufacturer at least	Jul 03 04:08
oiaohm	cubexyz: development boards the id values can in fact be bios settings that you can go in and change to whatever. Of course this is for testing detection and other horible things.	Jul 03 04:08
cubexyz	e.g. Q1 = QDI	Jul 03 04:09
cubexyz	usually it's the on the screen after the POST	Jul 03 04:09
oiaohm	cubexyz: think reading by software motherboard serial numbers.	Jul 03 04:09
oiaohm	That is not normally in bios.	Jul 03 04:10
oiaohm	Its a e-fused item normally but not on development boards.	Jul 03 04:10
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cubexyz	how can I tell if my motherboard has an efuse(s)?	Jul 03 04:11
cubexyz	it's not in the CPU is it?	Jul 03 04:12
oiaohm	Why do driver developers need to know this is X board might have Y defective chip but only for a particular range of production. So look up serial number work around defect.	Jul 03 04:12
oiaohm	cubexyz: e-fuses are all over the place.	Jul 03 04:12
MinceR	or just people who want to force DRM (even though it never worked) and people who want to break your privacy use it to identify your computer :>	Jul 03 04:14
oiaohm	https://www.techinsights.com/uploadedFiles/Public_Website/Content_-_Primary/Investigative_Analysis/2011/Five_Top_Trends_in_the_Mobile_Industry_for_2011/eFUSE%20technology%20in%20the%20Intel%20Westmere%20Clarkdale%20CPU.pdf	Jul 03 04:14
oiaohm	Intel and AMD and other use e-fuses to write ids into produced processors and lock features out of cpus.	Jul 03 04:15
cubexyz	I've heard of keyboard fuses but not efuses	Jul 03 04:15
oiaohm	Electronic Serial numbers on most devices is written into efuses.	Jul 03 04:16
oiaohm	Final fuse in a serial number write to a device is to prevent any more writing.	Jul 03 04:17
MinceR	in a brighter age, people were upset about CPUs having unique IDs	Jul 03 04:17
MinceR	nowadays, they're looking forward to having an RFID chip implanted under their skin	Jul 03 04:17
cubexyz	efuse seems to mean "cpu fuse" from what I'm reading now	Jul 03 04:18
oiaohm	cubexyz: cpu fuses is just one of there many uses.	Jul 03 04:18
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oiaohm	The worse use of efuses is what you find in xboxs and playstations and the like were as efuses blow they prevent you from installer older firmware.	Jul 03 04:20
MinceR	supporting the age-old essential use case known as "screwing your own customers"	Jul 03 04:21
cubexyz	just mod the hardware...	Jul 03 04:21
cubexyz	protect the efuse and JTAG from updates	Jul 03 04:21
oiaohm	IBM first made e-fuses to be able to tag hardware defects to allow more chips to be sold.	Jul 03 04:22
MinceR	just develop home chip fab technology so we can build computers we can trust	Jul 03 04:22
oiaohm	Its like all thing original usage makes sense.	Jul 03 04:22
oiaohm	How it used after that becomes a problem.	Jul 03 04:22
cubexyz	ah, an FPGA computer will do :)	Jul 03 04:23
MinceR	"Mac OS 8.6 included a new nanokernel" -- wtf	Jul 03 04:23
MinceR	here i thought the "lying about the type of your kernel" craze started later, at least at crApple	Jul 03 04:23
oiaohm	MinceR: I guess you don't know what a nanokernel is.	Jul 03 04:24
oiaohm	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microkernel#Nanokernel	Jul 03 04:24
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MinceR	i just read that section	Jul 03 04:24
MinceR	and i'm none the wiser	Jul 03 04:24
oiaohm	for Mac OS Nanoekernel is like the intel ME or the google EC	Jul 03 04:25
MinceR	perhaps they meant the timer thing, but i can't fathom how that would be so important as to go into the designation of the kernel	Jul 03 04:25
MinceR	oh, lol	Jul 03 04:25
MinceR	i thought those were on the mainboard, not in the OS	Jul 03 04:25
oiaohm	Yes define number 3 on wikipedia "A hardware abstraction layer that forms the lowest-level part of a kernel, sometimes used to provide real-time functionality to normal operating systems, like"	Jul 03 04:26
oiaohm	MinceR: when you are making the hardware and the OS completely you don't have to keep the software split.	Jul 03 04:26
oiaohm	Yes Mac OS had a nanokernel and a normal kernel. Not something you normally see.	Jul 03 04:27
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MinceR	i'll write an OS that has 9001 kernels	Jul 03 04:31
MinceR	continuing the good m$/crApple tradition, i will mark out specific random groups instructions as "kernel"	Jul 03 04:31
MinceR	and i'll beat m$, crApple and redhat by making the whole thing run in kernel mode as a blob, including all the applications	Jul 03 04:31
MinceR	the slogan will be "No terms in this industry have any meaning whatsoever anymore!"	Jul 03 04:32
cubexyz	just build your own CPU with TTL chips :)	Jul 03 04:32
MinceR	and it will be useless for pretty much everything	Jul 03 04:33
MinceR	including crypto :>	Jul 03 04:33
oiaohm	MinceR: please don't joke about 9001 kernels. There was a prototype OS with 20 000 different kernels.	Jul 03 04:33
MinceR	maybe i could redefine "kernel" as having the same meaning as any other term in the industry	Jul 03 04:34
oiaohm	MinceR: it also run on 10 000 different cpu types at once	Jul 03 04:34
MinceR	so i can have the kernel kernel the kernel into a kernel, resulting in a kernel kernel	Jul 03 04:34
oiaohm	MinceR: in other words a cluster from hell.	Jul 03 04:34
MinceR	oiaohm: but can it run on 10000 different cpus in the same machine?	Jul 03 04:34
oiaohm	MinceR: yep 10 000 differnet cpus in the same machine.	Jul 03 04:35
oiaohm	It was a experement on how far could you push things.	Jul 03 04:35
cubexyz	"Yo Dawg, I heard you like Kernels so I put a kernel in your kernel"	Jul 03 04:35
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schestowitz	SebthreeBQM10HD: https://twitter.com/helenpidd/status/748039036883861504	Jul 03 09:13
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schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/06/dear-europe.html?showComment=1467532899044#c991313249439082842	Jul 03 13:28
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schestowitz	"	Jul 03 13:28
schestowitz	To Matthew Garner	Jul 03 13:28
schestowitz	The losers in any vote always invoke the "silent" on their side. All that an be known about them is that they were silent.	Jul 03 13:28
schestowitz	Using your logic most (I think about 70%) of the young voted to Remain. However, only 37% of them voted at all. Therefore the vast majority of the young did NOT vote to Remain.	Jul 03 13:28
schestowitz	"	Jul 03 13:28
oiaohm	The general rule is those who did not vote automatically vote abstaining so not interested in what direction the vote would turn out.	Jul 03 13:32
oiaohm	Little late to be caring now.	Jul 03 13:32
schestowitz	http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2016/06/a-possible-way-for-non-eu-uk-to.html?showComment=1467538804605#c1981728884413299257	Jul 03 13:33
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schestowitz	"	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	In answer to The Pigs, economics is not my profession: I just read a newspaper online. The Paper published by the IMF research dept was downloadable via a Link. I failed to save the Link.	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	The Paper concludes that the negative effects of free movement are serious, in that they are not short-lived but instead are long-lasting enough to affect generations of people. Until now economists have not taken these downside consequences into account, because they haven't been able to measure them, to ascribe numbers to them.	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	I think that is because, until now, they have not bothered to find a way to measure them. perhaps they will now. Better late than never.	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	Germany and France imposed a 7 year feeeze on Poles wanting to work in their countries, after Poland acceded to the EU. Did the UK Civil Service think of doing that? Yes! Did the UK Government do it? No! I suppose it thought that England could do with all the lean and fit, trained and qualified, hard-working employees from wherever it could find them. And straightaway too.	Jul 03 13:33
schestowitz	"	Jul 03 13:33
oiaohm	Looks like Australia is heading for a hung parliament and Senate. Even with Australia mandatory voting laws still over 20 percent has still offically declared no vote either way.	Jul 03 13:35
oiaohm	Also I think it strange that some how to share a patent court means having to share everything else.	Jul 03 13:39
oiaohm	Historically treaties over patents and copyright have been done between countries without requiring anything else to be shared.	Jul 03 13:39
oiaohm	Just UK IP legal debates have to return to old school treaties talks.	Jul 03 13:42
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/749584626432217088	Jul 03 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: @schestowitz Jesus Christ.... This is insane.		Jul 03 13:58
schestowitz	I have just responded. Hopefully IP Kat wont' censor my polite comment again...	Jul 03 13:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749586226697605121	Jul 03 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz out of curiosity: what rules?		Jul 03 13:59
schestowitz	1. soaping oneself in sauna; 2) no trunks (girls 'ran' away); 3) hacking thermostat; 4) leaving sauna open; 5) leaving showerS (many) on .	Jul 03 14:00
schestowitz	6) throwing water around in sauna; 7) exposing oneself (prick-waving etc.). Guests were visible irritated.	Jul 03 14:01
schestowitz	If you pay 70 quid for a massage or something you don't expect to see people like this around (as members)	Jul 03 14:02
schestowitz	*[typo] visibly irritated (other people did complain too)	Jul 03 14:03
schestowitz	^context: some idiot in the spa will have membership terminated	Jul 03 14:04
oiaohm	schestowitz: really the interesting question is will the complete UK leave the EU or will only a section.	Jul 03 14:06
oiaohm	schestowitz: because legally each part of the UK is allowed to make it own selection when it comes to treaties.	Jul 03 14:06
schestowitz	i don't think anything will change	Jul 03 14:09
schestowitz	it increasingly looks like this	Jul 03 14:09
schestowitz	media and government will convince people	Jul 03 14:09
schestowitz	that it's in their best interest to stay	Jul 03 14:09
schestowitz	and that people who voted to leave have since changed their mind	Jul 03 14:10
schestowitz	and the referendum was never legally binding	Jul 03 14:10
schestowitz	my lawyers (acted on my behalf when the EPO threatened legal action) writes a lot about this subject right now, gets cited widely on how the brexit thing won't be followed through	Jul 03 14:10
schestowitz	and I think he makes a compelling case for why this is more so true all the time	Jul 03 14:11
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749596826991558656	Jul 03 14:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Seems like a correct thing to do to report such behavior.		Jul 03 14:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749597220828315648	Jul 03 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz This was in UK? Proper behaviour in sauna seems culturally dependent. But some of the things he did wouldn't be ok here either.		Jul 03 14:35
schestowitz	Yes, I know. Is it true that in Finland people pour vodka in?	Jul 03 14:35
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Mainly: not following following proper respectful behavior. Dick waving and soap would be total no-no's in a public sauna.		Jul 03 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz It is not true. But water is thrown to the stones, always.		Jul 03 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz This is called "Löyly", which is a word roughly meaning "Life". But it has sacred overtones as Sauna is an ancient holy space.		Jul 03 15:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Although nowadays, not even many Finns would know this. Despite almost everyone doing Sauna at least once a week. 😅		Jul 03 15:00
schestowitz	When I'm in Germany and Switzerland people are nuke, but no alcohol drinking. Any different in Finland?	Jul 03 15:01
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/749602229712252928	Jul 03 15:02
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schestowitz	Not so economic compared to most routers..	Jul 03 15:03
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/motters/status/749602730814103552	Jul 03 15:03
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/Tommi_M_Elo/status/749604640212262912	Jul 03 15:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Tommi_M_Elo: @schestowitz Generally no drinking of any kind in a public sauna here. Not even soft drinks. When you come out of Löyly, you can have a sip.		Jul 03 15:06
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cubexyz	oiaohm dude, I'm still using 90's tech	Jul 03 15:51
cubexyz	what's this talk about 3 or 4 years? :)	Jul 03 15:51
cubexyz	in the vic-20 era I only really used it between 1982 and 1985, so yes 3 years for that one	Jul 03 15:55
cubexyz	the SL-5500 zaurus is 2002 era	Jul 03 15:57
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cubexyz	I spent quite a long time working on kde1 stuff yesterday	Jul 03 15:59
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4r1l56/is_incompatibility_with_microsoft_word_a_sound/	Jul 03 16:10
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oiaohm	cubexyz: remember most of my figures are 24/7 running.	Jul 03 16:11
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cubexyz	oiaohm, same here	Jul 03 16:14
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cubexyz	well, except for the laser printer, that isn't running 24/7	Jul 03 16:14
cubexyz	but it is 1997 technology	Jul 03 16:14
oiaohm	schestowitz: its true that MS Office products are incompatible between version. Unless you are somewhere that has a volume license so everyone is on the same version libreoffice differences are no worst than what multi versions of MS Office generate anyhow.	Jul 03 16:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: every part in a computer has an expect max hours of operation.	Jul 03 16:15
oiaohm	cubexyz: the short expect max on a motherboard will be about 7 to 8 years.	Jul 03 16:16
oiaohm	cubexyz: and that is 24/7 no sleep mode no power off.	Jul 03 16:16
cubexyz	oiaohm, that's true but it's more a question of how repairable things are and how easily one can obtain replacement parts	Jul 03 16:16
oiaohm	Now of course that is server boards.	Jul 03 16:17
cubexyz	if I was running a CP/M box with 8 inch floppy drives, I'd be in trouble	Jul 03 16:17
cubexyz	but a P3? The world is drowning in parts for that	Jul 03 16:17
oiaohm	Desktop boards with 1/3 operation meaning design for 8 hours a day only.	Jul 03 16:17
oiaohm	and you then run that 24/7	Jul 03 16:18
oiaohm	Say ouch at 3 years.	Jul 03 16:18
oiaohm	So there are quality differences	Jul 03 16:19
oiaohm	As well as how repairable.	Jul 03 16:19
cubexyz	the QDI box still has the original power supply	Jul 03 16:20
schestowitz	retro https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4qpemf/fucked_up_grub_have_no_usb_stick_nor_other_live/	Jul 03 16:20
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cubexyz	that's 2001...	Jul 03 16:20
cubexyz	oiaohm, I had a bit of a shock going to the computer store and they didn't seem to know what an IDE drive was	Jul 03 16:20
oiaohm	I do have a pent 233 around here that still works.	Jul 03 16:21
oiaohm	But it mostly had a light life	Jul 03 16:21
cubexyz	but as you pointed out I can just stick an SATA/IDE card in the computer	Jul 03 16:22
oiaohm	There is sata to ide converters and back.	Jul 03 16:23
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4q1mnj/forgetting_how_to_microsoft/	Jul 03 16:23
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oiaohm	With CNC machines with old pata drive bases you have to use that stuff.	Jul 03 16:23
cubexyz	Microsoft? What's that? :)	Jul 03 16:24
oiaohm	cubexyz: you know you have a problem when the only thing on the shelf is SAS	Jul 03 16:28
cubexyz	usb drives though...	Jul 03 16:28
cubexyz	lots of those	Jul 03 16:28
cubexyz	my amiga 500 is a bit of a problem to support	Jul 03 16:29
cubexyz	SCSI-1, have to scrounge around for those	Jul 03 16:29
cubexyz	you can imagine the monitor issues with amiga	Jul 03 16:30
cubexyz	my monitor fixing skills are weak :-/	Jul 03 16:31
cubexyz	it's got the mono composite out, I can use that	Jul 03 16:34
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lordbaco/status/749628353431408640	Jul 03 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lordbaco: Great! Format your Linux HD & ask systemd to reboot the useless box! P.S. you can do the same w/ b > sysrq-trigger https://t.co/rm0jgZOYqs		Jul 03 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: #systemd reboots the system from RAM alone https://t.co/zdQHUaGYJe doesn't provide mental comfort, does it? https://t.co/RItq4zGhYV		Jul 03 16:40
schestowitz	https://i.reddituploads.com/87ad3b41868c4073925ab91aac72fb37?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=8ff8f3e3026db07035ab6040105cb19b	Jul 03 16:42
schestowitz	Once upon a time	Jul 03 16:43
oiaohm	cubexyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W9C_9MYxWM what people get to work	Jul 03 16:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amiga Rgb to Scart and Scart to HDMI - YouTube [ http://ur1.ca/pei0p ]		Jul 03 16:43
schestowitz	Now we have Lennux with systemd	Jul 03 16:43
cubexyz	ahem slack ahem openbsd :)	Jul 03 16:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: that is amiga rgb to scart then scart to hdmi so allowing modern screens.	Jul 03 16:44
cubexyz	oiaohm, I want the historically accurate equipment for amiga	Jul 03 16:44
oiaohm	cubexyz: so screen issue is how many converters required.	Jul 03 16:45
cubexyz	a quirk I know	Jul 03 16:45
oiaohm	Personally when it comes to old crt monitors I am happy to see the back to them.	Jul 03 16:45
oiaohm	I have some bad memories of being on the wrong side of their high voltages.	Jul 03 16:45
cubexyz	yeah the techs don't like to look at my old CRTs	Jul 03 16:46
oiaohm	Have you ever looked at the voltages inside.	Jul 03 16:46
oiaohm	And how far if you screw up they throw you.	Jul 03 16:46
cubexyz	just HDTV LCD's, I've taken those apart	Jul 03 16:46
oiaohm	Think of the crt tube as one huge capacitor.	Jul 03 16:47
oiaohm	Bigger it is the more it can hurt you.	Jul 03 16:47
oiaohm	crt tube can hold it enough to throw you badly for more than 4 weeks + without a power connection.	Jul 03 16:47
oiaohm	Modern day plasma and LCD don't contain evil.	Jul 03 16:48
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749630496288669697	Jul 03 16:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz What resolution does your monitor have?		Jul 03 16:48
oiaohm	Turn modern day stuff off wait a max of a hour and its basically safe.	Jul 03 16:48
schestowitz	1920p across (external), less on the laptop	Jul 03 16:48
oiaohm	cubexyz: CRT discharge is normally high volts low amps so not going to kill you as such. But having you mussels move without exact control can get you into all kinds of trouble quickly.	Jul 03 16:53
oiaohm	cubexyz: like my worst was ending up flat on back under a 20 kg monitor I pulled on top of self due to discharge.	Jul 03 16:53
cubexyz	ouch	Jul 03 16:53
oiaohm	To be truthful that was not the most dangerous. The boss one day was almost killed by flying screw driver because due to arc staff member threw it.	Jul 03 16:54
oiaohm	cubexyz: after a few close calls like that you can understand when a tech sees a crt screen they go can we please use converters and LCD/Plasma instead or just price that high you give up.	Jul 03 16:55
oiaohm	cubexyz: we knew the screw driver was not thrown by the person and it was lethal due to the fact it passed threw solid door behind boss.	Jul 03 16:57
oiaohm	cubexyz: and work place had security cameras.	Jul 03 16:58
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749632794578616320 https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749633032349487104	Jul 03 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz That's the same as mine. I thought maybe your monitor's resolution would explain why the font on techrights is so small.		Jul 03 16:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz But it doesn't. Ah well, I'll just keep on pressing ctrl-+ when I read techrights.		Jul 03 16:58
schestowitz	I do that too :-)	Jul 03 16:58
cubexyz	oiaohm, I need a LCD that can do 15 khz	Jul 03 17:04
cubexyz	or I just keep buying old CRTs	Jul 03 17:04
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/petrakramer/status/749633857629122560	Jul 03 17:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@petrakramer: @schestowitz Now I'm perplexed. If you know your site is hard to read, why not make it more accessible?		Jul 03 17:05
schestowitz	Backward compatibility with original design 10 years ago	Jul 03 17:05
oiaohm	cubexyz: that is why you end up with scart to hdmi.	Jul 03 17:10
oiaohm	cubexyz: lot of the different converters handle different khz before turning them to standard modern hdmi speeds.	Jul 03 17:12
cubexyz	oiaohm, I have the schematic for the amiga 1080	Jul 03 17:17
cubexyz	so if I can find a tech maybe the monitor can be repaired	Jul 03 17:18
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oiaohm	cubexyz: most fails in crt monitors are not key parts. Problem is having anyone wanting to deal with them.	Jul 03 17:20
oiaohm	cubexyz: most of my dealing with crt was with apples where to change harddrives and main controller boards you had to get around the crt safely.	Jul 03 17:21
oiaohm	cubexyz: so from have device function point of view look at converters.	Jul 03 17:22
cubexyz	the 1080 stops showing red after a few minutes, otherwise it does work	Jul 03 17:22
oiaohm	Converter is also important to know if fault is amiga 1080 side or old crt as well.	Jul 03 17:23
oiaohm	A single color disappearing remembering that the old amiga are a rgb output could be a out put failure.	Jul 03 17:24
oiaohm	No point messing with the crt if it not the part at fault.	Jul 03 17:24
cubexyz	nah, got to be the monitor	Jul 03 17:27
cubexyz	could be the monitor cable though	Jul 03 17:29
cubexyz	but I doubt it... why would it work for a few minutes then stop showing red?	Jul 03 17:29
cubexyz	then turn it off for a while then it shows red for a while again?	Jul 03 17:29
oiaohm	some of the old devices simple things like power feeds can be cutting out in places.	Jul 03 17:33
oiaohm	Also with cables sometimes with the old insulations when they heat they use to expand so making a break in a cable larger.	Jul 03 17:34
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cubexyz	anyone know how to delete all backslashes from a file using vim?	Jul 03 20:14
MinceR	:%s/\\//g -- perhaps	Jul 03 20:15
cubexyz	yes good	Jul 03 20:16
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schestowitz	" SUEPO is very pleased to hear about this apparent change of mind and sincerely hopes that concrete steps will follow soon – not only in Munich but also at the other places of employment. "	Jul 03 23:40
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DaemonFC	I might get a couple more games on the Steam sale.	Jul 04 03:11
DaemonFC	I usually just get the $2-3 ones.	Jul 04 03:11
DaemonFC	The Witcher and The Witcher 2 maybe.	Jul 04 03:11
*MinceR is waiting for The Witchest		Jul 04 03:11
DaemonFC	The third one is still kind of expensive. It'll go on sale for a better price when it's old.	Jul 04 03:11
DaemonFC	MinceR, I considered Rust but it sounds pretty shitty.	Jul 04 03:12
DaemonFC	Not the game. The people who play it.	Jul 04 03:12
MinceR	:>	Jul 04 03:12
DaemonFC	It doesn't sandbox you so you're still trying to make a bow and arrow and all of a sudden all these naked peopel ambush you with assault rifles.	Jul 04 03:12
MinceR	lol	Jul 04 03:12
DaemonFC	Seems like a waste of money.	Jul 04 03:12
MinceR	sounds like i'll just stick with xonotic	Jul 04 03:12
DaemonFC	Steam is so cruel with their video game sales.	Jul 04 03:13
DaemonFC	"$2? I don't want to lose money on this! Give me all of them!".	Jul 04 03:13
DaemonFC	Then you buy like $40-50 worth of games, most of them are crap.	Jul 04 03:14
DaemonFC	You play two of them.	Jul 04 03:14
DaemonFC	I don't buy anything unless the reviews are Very Positive or Overwhelmingly Positive.	Jul 04 03:14
DaemonFC	They have Skyrim on the sale, but John has the XBOX 360 version so I think I'll just play it on that.	Jul 04 03:15
DaemonFC	Never got around to it. I loved Oblivion.	Jul 04 03:15
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/huehuehuio/status/749904558516736000	Jul 04 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@huehuehuio: Nah, it just targets stupid people. Who else would install "firefox-patch"? https://t.co/k7i7TzQnfm		Jul 04 10:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Another friendly reminder that running #freesw on top of #malware like #microsoft #windows leaves one exposed https://t.co/29EWYhti62		Jul 04 10:58
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TweetTuxMachines	Testing The Red Hat/Rackspace Private Cloud	Jul 04 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines	Debian On Chromebooks	Jul 04 11:20
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TweetTuxMachines	Javier Igea: How do you Fedora? https://t.co/m7gUKkPkvh	Jul 04 11:54
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TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.7 RC6, Things Are	Jul 04 11:55
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Bigger https://t.co/WEJFNgq8H5	Jul 04 11:55
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749919399205896196	Jul 04 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer Moves to Linux	Jul 04 11:58
TweetTuxMachines	4.6, Adds MIPS64el Support https://t.co/e9YvKdc5mP	Jul 04 11:58
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Debian https://t.co/1jnPUTQUqD	Jul 04 11:58
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TweetTuxMachines	Javier Igea: How do you Fedora? https://t.co/rIAbTkbDb7	Jul 04 11:59
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TweetTuxMachines	Linus Torvalds Announces Linux Kernel 4.7 RC6, Things Are	Jul 04 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	Getting Bigger https://t.co/lRJbscQ4u4	Jul 04 11:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920371424440320	Jul 04 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	Debian GNU/Linux 9 "Stretch" Installer Moves to Linux	Jul 04 11:59
TweetTuxMachines	4.6, Adds MIPS64el Support https://t.co/vQz3XIskOA	Jul 04 11:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749920372133228544	Jul 04 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/UtssqegwqX	Jul 04 12:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749921696300298240	Jul 04 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	Network Security Toolkit (NST) Linux OS Released Based on	Jul 04 12:11
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24, Linux 4.6 https://t.co/o63ZfcYTS2	Jul 04 12:11
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/749922235918548992	Jul 04 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	SteamOS 2.84 Beta Promises to Fix "Black Screen" Issues	Jul 04 12:12
TweetTuxMachines	with Nvidia GPUs https://t.co/XWTfuSM0GO	Jul 04 12:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@AlexaInfo http://twitter.com/AlexaInfo/status/749923641865998336	Jul 04 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo!	Jul 04 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 (paper.li) Thanks to @Continove	Jul 04 12:35
TweetTuxMachines	@danceman @tuxmachines	Jul 04 12:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750006356967563264	Jul 04 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	IBM's SoftLayer cloud gets certified Ubuntu Linux 16.04	Jul 04 17:45
TweetTuxMachines	LTS images https://t.co/yUC7vXO6we (www.v3.co.uk)	Jul 04 17:45
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TweetTuxMachines	@AlexaInfo http://twitter.com/gtpintado/status/750007721752166400	Jul 04 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by The latest #Linux News By @AlexaInfo!	Jul 04 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@gtpintado https://t.co/4TdXIGPty6 (paper.li) Thanks to @Continove	Jul 04 17:46
TweetTuxMachines	@danceman @tuxmachines	Jul 04 17:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750010847188115460	Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	Get ready to be scared again as Layers of Fear:	Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	Inheritance DLC has been announced	Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/kHT7nDHbc9 (www.gamingonlinux.com) "Linux	Jul 04 18:08
TweetTuxMachines	support on August 2nd."	Jul 04 18:08
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750013430720004096	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	Future of Li-f-e: Linux for Education distribution	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/j5qDqukli2 (lizards.opensuse.org)	Jul 04 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	Snappy Moves in the Main Arch Linux Repo, snapd 2.0.10	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	Released to Fedora COPR https://t.co/IHqC5hqX1y	Jul 04 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750016067397967873	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Stretch Successor To Be Codenamed Bullseye	Jul 04 18:20
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GkMrmLKrza (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 18:20
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750016361691246592	Jul 04 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	Four More Changes Proposed For Fedora 25	Jul 04 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/f1xDpIFY4s (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 18:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750017820340215810	Jul 04 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	Bcachefs Still Being Developed As A Next-Gen Linux	Jul 04 18:38
TweetTuxMachines	File-System https://t.co/MxkCLUGMR4 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 04 18:38
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TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Space/Linux https://t.co/qb6CfMd1DQ	Jul 04 19:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038739590590464	Jul 04 19:49
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/UzW9BIiSTe	Jul 04 19:49
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038740307894272	Jul 04 19:51
TweetTuxMachines	The Growth of the Linux and Open Source Channel since	Jul 04 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038740995747841	Jul 04 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	Arastta: Community Driven & Open Source eCommerce	Jul 04 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750038741687738369	Jul 04 19:52
TweetTuxMachines	H2O.ai uncorks Sparkling Water 2.0	Jul 04 19:52
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750039452861468674	Jul 04 19:58
TweetTuxMachines	6 Things I Want From BlackBerry’s Trio of Android Phones	Jul 04 19:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8NlGJXVtos (www.knowyourmobile.com)	Jul 04 19:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/yMNPnqAgxw (www.theinquirer.net)	Jul 04 19:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750039954475081728	Jul 04 19:58
TweetTuxMachines	Android Auto explored: Taking Google on the road	Jul 04 19:58
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/e6hKJXffFA (www.pocket-lint.com)	Jul 04 19:58
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750040421317869568	Jul 04 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 24 Release Party in Sao Paulo	Jul 04 19:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BtuOtCuKsV (danielammorais.com)	Jul 04 19:59
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DaemonFC	http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/04/comcast-boosts-data-cap-from-300gb-to-1tb-unlimited-data-will-cost-50/	Jul 04 20:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com \| A Comcastic miracle: Data caps will go from 300GB to a terabyte \| Ars Technica		Jul 04 20:46
DaemonFC	Yeah, and they slipped in a price hike of $10 for every tier right after announcing that.	Jul 04 20:46
DaemonFC	They always find a way to cheat you.	Jul 04 20:46
DaemonFC	The cap was never about congestion. It was about Comcast not wanting to have to compete with Netflix.	Jul 04 20:46
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750041158072594432	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Eurotech partner for managing IoT edge	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	devices https://t.co/Ys4Bu5An6V (www.iottechnews.com)	Jul 04 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750041383096942592	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 (Sarah) Released. See what’s New?	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JrARzuzO7L (www.unixmen.com)	Jul 04 20:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750050215084879872	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	Links 4/7/2016: VectorLinux 7.2 Beta, Linux 4.7 RC 6	Jul 04 20:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/BjQAWC4X6d (techrights.org)	Jul 04 20:47
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DaemonFC	I stopped using Chrome largely because Google won't allow extensions that block its own ads in Youtube.	Jul 04 20:50
schestowitz	yeah, not just that	Jul 04 20:52
schestowitz	it's a proprietary web browser	Jul 04 20:52
schestowitz	DaemonFC: happy fireworks day BTW	Jul 04 20:53
DaemonFC	thanks	Jul 04 20:53
XRevan86	DaemonFC: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ublock-origin/cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm like this one?	Jul 04 20:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chrome.google.com \| uBlock Origin - Chrome Web Store [ http://ur1.ca/peqdr ]		Jul 04 20:54
DaemonFC	XRevan86, If you upload an ad blocker that can block ads in Youtube, Google will ban it from the Chrome store.	Jul 04 20:55
XRevan86	DaemonFC: But this one can, can it?	Jul 04 20:55
DaemonFC	If it could then it wouldn't be there.	Jul 04 20:55
XRevan86	or should it be a sole-purpose of the extention to block youtube ads?	Jul 04 20:56
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I never checked how it works on Chromium, though. On Firefox it definitely does.	Jul 04 20:56
DaemonFC	Well, I assume that if you install an ad blocker, it's because you don't want to see any ads.	Jul 04 20:56
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I mean, on YouTube only.	Jul 04 20:59
DaemonFC	I've seen Firefox extensions that only block Youtube ads.	Jul 04 21:00
XRevan86	or rather, explicitly blocking on YouTube	Jul 04 21:00
XRevan86	uBlock blocks ads but never mentions YouTube specifically on its page	Jul 04 21:00
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I checked: uBlock Origin blocks YouTube ads with a completely default settings on Chromium.	Jul 04 21:04
XRevan86	So at least that %).	Jul 04 21:04
XRevan86	Maybe if Google would find out, all general-purpose ad blockers will go away too.	Jul 04 21:04
cubexyz	most of the time I'm using firefox	Jul 04 21:06
cubexyz	except if the computer is very old... then dillo or lynx	Jul 04 21:06
XRevan86	DaemonFC: I stopped using Chrom(e\|ium) largely because it eats RAM big time and is not customisable enough.	Jul 04 21:08
DaemonFC	My next PC might be an all in one.	Jul 04 21:08
DaemonFC	I'm tired of this rat's nest of cables and cords and stuff.	Jul 04 21:08
XRevan86	Google's name on it also doesn't help, yes.	Jul 04 21:08
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/DenisDulici/status/750061846141566976	Jul 04 21:24
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DaemonFC`	Well, something just crashed my computer.	Jul 04 22:09
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cubexyz	ok, here is what we run at the computer lab here:	Jul 05 00:12
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/computer-lab-current-os.txt	Jul 05 00:12
DaemonFC	Steam is updating.... The most annoying part about Steam.	Jul 05 00:15
cubexyz	btw I just learned today that kobo publishes their source code repo on github, so that's a thumbs up from me:	Jul 05 00:27
cubexyz	https://github.com/kobolabs	Jul 05 00:27
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razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 05 00:27
DaemonFC	Ryan Farmer	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Just now · Chicago ·	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Some files were found in the Windows 10 Anniversary update indicating that Windows might be going to a "subscription" model.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Microsoft has denied that it has anything to do with Windows Home or Pro editions. It's just a way for companies to subscribe to "Enterprise Edition" features.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Now, that might be true (for now), but a problem that Microsoft has always had is "How do you get people to pay for a Windows update when the version they have operates their computer just fine?". Even more, how do you get them to pay for a shit upgrade like Vista or 8 when they don't want it?	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Well, Windows 10 forced updates and a "pay for a subscription or the computer stops working" system could solve both of their problems. If the update screws up your computer, then oh well. They still get your money.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	I'll keep my options in mind if they proceed to a subscription model. I used Fedora Linux for close to ten years without running Windows on my computer at all. Wine doesn't have perfect Windows simulation, but it's not terrible. Almost all of the really popular Windows apps work. Then there's the fact that Steam is on Linux natively now (Steam OS is a version of Debian), and so are about 40% of the games.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	When I get paid again, I'm considering getting a really large capacity SSD and transferring my files over from the hard disk I've been using as D drive (for massive files that won't fit on my SSD that the OS lives on, and then installing Linux.	Jul 05 00:29
DaemonFC	Windows 10 really pissed me off this morning. I had made good progress in a game, including defeating a boss, and then Windows 10 gives me this goddamn blue screen with, I shit you not, " :( Herp derp, your computer has stopped working.".	Jul 05 00:30
DaemonFC	Well, not an exact quote, but it did really have a :( in the error message. The fuck?	Jul 05 00:30
cubexyz	D drive, really? :)	Jul 05 00:31
cubexyz	I hope you mean /mnt/d :)	Jul 05 00:31
cubexyz	hold on, I got a windows error for you...	Jul 05 00:33
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/windows-10-install-error.png	Jul 05 00:33
razielle_tzu	aren't the BSODs just as bad?	Jul 05 00:34
cubexyz	it's a general dumbing down really	Jul 05 00:36
cubexyz	people get these useless error messages, and then the BSOD itself is unrecoverable...	Jul 05 00:38
razielle_tzu	i've not seen a BSOD yet so i don't know how little info they actually have	Jul 05 00:38
DaemonFC	I got a BSoD while I was playing Borderlands 2.	Jul 05 00:39
DaemonFC	Then my computer restarted and hung after the bootsplash.	Jul 05 00:39
DaemonFC	So I had to hold down the power button and then turn it back on.	Jul 05 00:39
DaemonFC	Probably a driver error.	Jul 05 00:39
DaemonFC	I'm guessing the Radeon display driver because of course it would be.	Jul 05 00:40
DaemonFC	Microsoft is supposed to check them for "quality" before they get pushed down to users, but in reality they cause all kinds of problems because they're completely full of bugs.	Jul 05 00:40
cubexyz	mainframes actually handle errors far better than what we have	Jul 05 00:41
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> I got a BSoD while I was playing Borderlands 2.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Then my computer restarted and hung after the bootsplash.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> So I had to hold down the power button and then turn it back on.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Probably a driver error.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> I'm guessing the Radeon display driver because of course it would be.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	<DaemonFC> Microsoft is supposed to check them for "quality" before they get pushed down to users, but in reality they cause all kinds of problems because they're completely full of bugs.	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	oops	Jul 05 00:43
DaemonFC	They've literally patched hundreds of bugs in Windows 10 and it still does many of the same annoying things that the first build did.	Jul 05 00:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750105701884755968	Jul 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines	PCLinuxOS 2016.07 "MATE" has just been released	Jul 05 00:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/tXW5qSHTwY (www.pclinuxos.com)	Jul 05 00:43
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DaemonFC	I keep getting bad updates that brick the search system.	Jul 05 00:43
cubexyz	yout want a Linux box that doesn't crash? Build it with top of the line parts, plus add more $$$ for a good UPS, then run text only	Jul 05 00:44
razielle_tzu	someone in another channel i'm in is trying to claim that secondary and tertiary timings on some ram is the likely cause of sporadic BSODs they're experiencing... i'm finding nothing on ANY site to suggest this is even possible	Jul 05 00:44
DaemonFC	A bad RAM module can cause random errors.	Jul 05 00:45
DaemonFC	Of course, so can a bad CMOS battery.	Jul 05 00:45
cubexyz	RAM modules can fail due to overheating	Jul 05 00:45
razielle_tzu	sure but it being due to secondary and tertiray timings?	Jul 05 00:45
DaemonFC	I had a bad battery once that was causing sporadic kernel panics.	Jul 05 00:45
DaemonFC	I don't think that would be likely.	Jul 05 00:45
cubexyz	fan failure -> overheating -> ram failure	Jul 05 00:46
cubexyz	simple	Jul 05 00:46
DaemonFC	If you have mismatched RAM, you could have problems.	Jul 05 00:46
DaemonFC	The motherboard is supposed to figure it out, but there's no standard behavior for that situation.	Jul 05 00:46
razielle_tzu	two ram kits, same manufacturer just different years	Jul 05 00:47
DaemonFC	I have quite a few fans in my system. An intake, and outtake, the power supply fan, the CPU fan...	Jul 05 00:47
DaemonFC	Overheating hasn't been an issue.	Jul 05 00:47
DaemonFC	Oh, and two in the graphics card. :P	Jul 05 00:47
cubexyz	I've seen HP laserjet fans last 20 years, so fans can last a long time, but if they do fail stuff can overheat	Jul 05 00:53
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 05 00:55
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DaemonFC	I've seen hard drives last 25 years.	Jul 05 01:03
DaemonFC	Most of them don't.	Jul 05 01:03
razielle_tzu	not any more	Jul 05 01:03
cubexyz	sure, I own a couple like that :)	Jul 05 01:03
cubexyz	Quantum 49mb LP52S in my Amiga	Jul 05 01:03
DaemonFC	Heat is a big factor in how long they work.	Jul 05 01:03
DaemonFC	Getting as much heat out of the case as you can is important.	Jul 05 01:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750118031641047041	Jul 05 01:04
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cubexyz	and those old external drives had................... fans :)	Jul 05 01:04
cubexyz	well, at least one fan anyway	Jul 05 01:04
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 05 01:04
cubexyz	it's not quite fair to compare my Quantum drive from 1990 to the newer stuff though	Jul 05 01:05
cubexyz	for one thing, I turn the amiga on only once per month	Jul 05 01:05
cubexyz	the server runs 24/7	Jul 05 01:06
cubexyz	but I know it has a Seagate ST340810A which was made in 2001	Jul 05 01:06
DaemonFC	http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bailing-after-brexit-uk-independence-party-leader-farage-quits_us_577a4672e4b04164641064ca	Jul 05 01:07
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DaemonFC	The UK has been getting all of the benefits of membership in the EU while avoiding most of the obligations.	Jul 05 01:07
DaemonFC	They're going to regret leaving.	Jul 05 01:07
cubexyz	can't they just change their minds?	Jul 05 01:08
DaemonFC	Ratings agencies have downgraded the credit rating of the UK to the same level as the US state of Illinois, which has the worst rating in the US.	Jul 05 01:08
DaemonFC	And the outlook is negative. One of them even said it's going to watch to see if the Pound ceases to be a significant reserve currency over this.	Jul 05 01:09
cubexyz	they could reverse Brexit if they really wanted to	Jul 05 01:09
DaemonFC	cubexyz, I guess they could. Article 50 hasn't been invoked yet, but some of the other member countries just want them to leave as quickly as possible.	Jul 05 01:09
cubexyz	have parliament vote on it	Jul 05 01:10
DaemonFC	bbl	Jul 05 01:11
DaemonFC	Time to go catch my train	Jul 05 01:11
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cubexyz	bah, even kobo isn't 100% foss	Jul 05 01:14
schestowitz	of course not..	Jul 05 01:20
schestowitz	few things are these days	Jul 05 01:20
schestowitz	hybrids	Jul 05 01:20
schestowitz	was kobo canadian?	Jul 05 01:20
cubexyz	yes	Jul 05 01:20
schestowitz	i remember reading something in cnet about it years ago	Jul 05 01:21
cubexyz	well, I guess now it's a subsidiary of Rakuten in Japan	Jul 05 01:21
cubexyz	but the headquarters is still in Toronto	Jul 05 01:21
cubexyz	I don't really have a good ereader device	Jul 05 01:22
cubexyz	also there's Kobo Arc which runs Android...	Jul 05 01:23
cubexyz	a bit pricey though	Jul 05 01:24
cubexyz	the old one was Kobo Vox, maybe I could get a used one cheap	Jul 05 01:25
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TweetTuxMachines	PC-BSD's Lumina Desktop Now In Beta For v1.0	Jul 05 02:56
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DaemonFC	A guy tried to mug us on the way back from the fireworks.	Jul 05 05:18
DaemonFC	They do something to piss you off so you'll chase them down an alley.	Jul 05 05:18
DaemonFC	This guy got in John's face and smacked his drink out of his hand and then ran off. Then when he realized we weren't chasing him, he started shouting at us.	Jul 05 05:18
DaemonFC	I asked John who would be dumb enough to go chase them down a dark alley. He said foreign tourists.	Jul 05 05:19
DaemonFC	Okay, I think Valve is playing "Let's see how many times we can update Steam for no reason this week." again.	Jul 05 05:27
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour	Jul 05 13:33
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TweetTuxMachines	Planet Centauri, another 2D sandbox RPG with crafting	Jul 05 13:39
TweetTuxMachines	available for Linux https://t.co/bv7rrWgYxX	Jul 05 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon: Quick Screenshot Tour	Jul 05 13:46
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cubexyz	I wonder if I can compile that code on linux	Jul 05 19:55
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SebthreeBQM10HD	hi	Jul 05 20:18
razielle_tzu	o/	Jul 05 20:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, hi	Jul 05 20:18
razielle_tzu	how are you?	Jul 05 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	ok you?	Jul 05 20:19
razielle_tzu	pretty good	Jul 05 20:19
cubexyz	what does BQM10HD mean?	Jul 05 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	cataching up on a TV show	Jul 05 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	only about two days left on the thing	Jul 05 20:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, its the Ubuntu tablet I am using	Jul 05 20:20
cubexyz	ah	Jul 05 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	BQ company	Jul 05 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	type of tablet M10	Jul 05 20:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	and there's two versions of the M10 the Full HD in black, and the HD in Whie	Jul 05 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	using the HD, will buy the FHD later on this year as well :/)	Jul 05 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	the HD being the version that isn't quite as good as the other one or so they say	Jul 05 20:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, who am I?	Jul 05 20:22
razielle_tzu	the last time we spoke you had joined with the name sebsebseb	Jul 05 20:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, h eh yeah my usual name	Jul 05 20:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I guess not as much now since	Jul 05 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	using the tablet mostly for IRC	Jul 05 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	etc	Jul 05 20:23
razielle_tzu	fair enough	Jul 05 20:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	f thoug	Jul 05 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm	Jul 05 20:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	did that come out in lots of white space?	Jul 05 20:24
razielle_tzu	there was some yeah	Jul 05 20:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah some issue with the irc client etc	Jul 05 20:25
razielle_tzu	which client?	Jul 05 20:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	sucky xchat gnome, but done the interesting UBuntu tablet way	Jul 05 20:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	as in I am running a standard ARM program	Jul 05 20:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	instead of native	Jul 05 20:26
razielle_tzu	ah, yeah the arm version of xchat can be kinda buggy	Jul 05 20:26
*SebthreeBQM10HD thought Libertine was more interesting when he thought it was standard Desktop Linux programs from the normal computer, but no they are arm ports		Jul 05 20:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	there's a thing in Ubuntu Touch calld Libertine which uses the xmir to bring Firefox and Libre OFfice and what not over	Jul 05 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it's a bit of a sucky client really, I prefer Konversation	Jul 05 20:27
razielle_tzu	i usually use either quassel or irssi	Jul 05 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	maybe I could run that, but would need to do hacking to Libertine or whatever at the moment still	Jul 05 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah quassel is ok to, but still prefer konversation	Jul 05 20:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway thoght I would come to IRC since there's a council meeting going on for my other distro	Jul 05 20:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	no I am not on the council anymore for that, but well find out things in those meetings etc	Jul 05 20:28
razielle_tzu	i have quassel installed on most of my machines and my phone, i run a core on a server to make sure i don't miss anything :D	Jul 05 20:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	what does your phone run?	Jul 05 20:29
*SebthreeBQM10HD thinks this TV show isn't that good really, so good to do something else at same time really		Jul 05 20:29
DaemonFC	hexchat maybe?	Jul 05 20:29
razielle_tzu	a ROM called NightOwl	Jul 05 20:29
*SebthreeBQM10HD has a little brother that likes it a lot though		Jul 05 20:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	a ROM oh, what's NightOWL then? based on Android or ?	Jul 05 20:30
razielle_tzu	yeah, android	Jul 05 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I think something like Ubuntu Touch that's interesting hope that becomes more of a thing	Jul 05 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	however actusally Android hmm	Jul 05 20:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	well some intereinsg things have happended since Android as well	Jul 05 20:30
razielle_tzu	it is but for the models of phone i have there's no installer image, just prebuilt testers	Jul 05 20:30
razielle_tzu	so touch is useless to me for the most part	Jul 05 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I got a awesome chinese/hong kong gaming tablet quite recently that runs Android with their stuff	Jul 05 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	you have tried UBuntu Touch on something?	Jul 05 20:31
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SebthreeBQM10HD	indeed it's the BQ or Meizu phones or sticking Ubuntu Touch on a Nexu 7 for example if got	Jul 05 20:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	a guy is porting it to the one pluss three as well	Jul 05 20:31
razielle_tzu	yeah, i tested it on my Tab2 and my s3 mini but both weere only dev/tester builds. no option to install and config for my own use	Jul 05 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh got a s3 mini as well :)	Jul 05 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah I got one of those but that wa since the nexus 7 or whatever sold out at the time so I went for that instead	Jul 05 20:32
razielle_tzu	my main phone is the Note	Jul 05 20:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	my main phone since some time last year has been the Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu Edition :)	Jul 05 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I don't need to run lots of apps on a smart phone, so that's fine	Jul 05 20:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	and got computer, and other devices	Jul 05 20:34
razielle_tzu	i don't use my phone for much any more, just keeping in contact with people and maybe as an e-reader if my kindle is dead	Jul 05 20:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah bingo	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, got a computer yep, two even sure maybe more een if old ones that don't quite work count ok	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	got four smart phones	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	five	Jul 05 20:41
razielle_tzu	i've got about 7 computers i can use and tw osmart phones	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	well the S3 Mini	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	old one	Jul 05 20:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	BQ E5 Ubuntu Ediiton	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	4.5 I mean	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	first commerical Ubuntu phone that one. thought I had lost htat but turned up earlier htis year so :)	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	a Firefox phone yep as well. and a jolla phone that should do more with again really	Jul 05 20:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	old nokia or two I guess some where if that counts, even a old Android 2 phone someon gave me, a old nokia tablet soene gave me evne, not using those two devices really	Jul 05 20:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	the old net book yep	Jul 05 20:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	an IPad Air which needs my guy to look at it again and fix it up hardware issues, the screen had cracked. I got the intreing Remix OS tablet and remix minis. I got the chip glad I crowd funded that	Jul 05 20:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	an oldish android tablet that some charging issue so can't really use that.	Jul 05 20:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	and this Android gaming tablet thing. etc etc yep yep who needs a pc now, not so much me, who needs a phone not me	Jul 05 20:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I mainly use a phone to call and textk, and little web browsing at times	Jul 05 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	so Ubuntu Phone is more than fine for that	Jul 05 20:45
razielle_tzu	i prefer a computer to a tablet most of the time	Jul 05 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	well I got the Logitech k480	Jul 05 20:45
razielle_tzu	if i'm going anywhere for more than a few hours i take one of my laptops with me	Jul 05 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	blueetooth keyboard which is really nice, has a thing to put the tablet so it's a stand, and the keyboard is great, that's the black one, but I will buy the white one as well	Jul 05 20:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	the net book wasn't to bad to take around, but has some hardware issus really, so that just stays here	Jul 05 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	the HP lap top I have as a newer lap top is well more big and bulky	Jul 05 20:46
razielle_tzu	i'm partial to my ibm thinkpad T60	Jul 05 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	even going up and down the stairs in the house with lap tops is annoying enough, I like lite wiaght etc	Jul 05 20:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	up and down the stairs or out and about with a Ubuntu tablet and the LOgitech k480 much better	Jul 05 20:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I think a computer an actsual computer x86/x864 yes 32bit or 64bit	Jul 05 20:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	is only really needed for more specific things	Jul 05 20:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	otherwise tabets and even smart phones are fine now	Jul 05 20:47
razielle_tzu	they are, all i said was that i prefer a computer to a tablet most of the time	Jul 05 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, if you want to virtual machine which I do at times, operating systems made for a PC, wel then your going to need a PC really for example	Jul 05 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	if your doing Cad or some prper graphics desing or something then your better off on a PC really	Jul 05 20:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	but for web browsing, email, IRC, listening to musich, watching video, you should be fine on a tablet or even smart phone	Jul 05 20:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I mostly do basic things	Jul 05 20:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	well ok I am going to start play8ing more games at times it seems older games, since I got that gaming tablet, but with the exception of that, I am mostly doing basic things. I do use Virtualbox for fun or to try out some os at itmes though	Jul 05 20:50
cubexyz	I miss the X11 part with streamers/tablets	Jul 05 20:50
cubexyz	one of the old zauruses had X11	Jul 05 20:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz what do you mean or reffering to ?	Jul 05 20:51
cubexyz	X11... the X window system	Jul 05 20:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh that's still in tablets or uhmm	Jul 05 20:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	well	Jul 05 20:52
cubexyz	you know, that thing MIT invented? :)	Jul 05 20:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	ok Jolla tablet a few lucky few got that, but the phone uses wayland	Jul 05 20:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	Ubuntu tablet has Mir	Jul 05 20:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	and phone	Jul 05 20:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	Desktop Linux is still mostly xorg for now, but things are going towards Wayland for most	Jul 05 20:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	and some that aren't Ubuntu will go Mir as well I guess	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	yep xorg is on it's way out	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	but slowly	Jul 05 20:54
cubexyz	ah, I'd disagree with you there	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, apparntly it's not so secure now as well, shows it's age etc	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	doesn't work so well security wise with Ubuntu snaps for example	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	even the xorg developers them selves are trying to replace it they started Wayland	Jul 05 20:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz Fedora Core 1 is old skool as well	Jul 05 20:58
cubexyz	do you think all the X11 window managers will be re-written? I doubt it	Jul 05 20:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, nope old things will die	Jul 05 20:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	or	Jul 05 20:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	find a way to live on some how, via I don't know xmir maybe	Jul 05 20:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	and something for wyaland to	Jul 05 20:59
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razielle_tzu	there are still plenty of people that use X11 in their day to day work and a compositor isn't always going to be able to provide the same functionality	Jul 05 21:00
cubexyz	NASA uses X11 :)	Jul 05 21:01
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, cubexyz most distros for now still use X11, but it on the verge of being replaced by default with Wayland or Mir	Jul 05 21:01
razielle_tzu	most are going to go with Wayland over Mir	Jul 05 21:01
razielle_tzu	afaik only Ubuntu and maybe some of its spin-offs are going with Mir	Jul 05 21:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yep I have put stuff like that to	Jul 05 21:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	I just did as well or soething	Jul 05 21:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	most will go to Wayland	Jul 05 21:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	only Ubuntu will do Mir and a few based on it possibly	Jul 05 21:02
cubexyz	that's a very Linux-centric viewpoint, I have to support quite a number of bsd boxes...	Jul 05 21:04
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, we were talking Linux werne't we	Jul 05 21:04
razielle_tzu	i use free- and pc-bsd from time to time too	Jul 05 21:04
SebthreeBQM10HD	BSD wil have x11 or wahtever sure	Jul 05 21:04
cubexyz	I was talking about X11	Jul 05 21:04
razielle_tzu	bsd won't move from X11 for a long time to come	Jul 05 21:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess Wayland can come to BSD as well	Jul 05 21:05
razielle_tzu	wayland or another compositor would likely be an optional install for specific DEs, whereas most users of BSD would still be using X11 (if they use anything but TTYs) for most things	Jul 05 21:07
cubexyz	well, I guess the distro maintainers will decide what they'll do	Jul 05 21:08
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 05 21:09
cubexyz	I'm not porting Wayland to FC1, I know that :)	Jul 05 21:12
razielle_tzu	i wouldn't either	Jul 05 21:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	not many use FC1 stil but that guy does	Jul 05 21:13
cubexyz	would you play Scarlatti sonatas on a piano? :)	Jul 05 21:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	no sinc e I don't play piano	Jul 05 21:14
cubexyz	Scarlatti composed for the hapsichord...	Jul 05 21:15
razielle_tzu	Scarlatti sounds horrible on the piano	Jul 05 21:17
cubexyz	well you know how it is... I didn't like Gnome 3 and I didn't really like KDE 4	Jul 05 21:18
cubexyz	so perhaps one can understand why I don't automatically switch to the newest thing	Jul 05 21:19
razielle_tzu	i prefer lxde for most of my machines	Jul 05 21:19
razielle_tzu	sometimes i3	Jul 05 21:19
cubexyz	harpsichord rather	Jul 05 21:19
razielle_tzu	the harpsichord has such a nice sound to it	Jul 05 21:20
cubexyz	sure, I'll use the new stuff but I'm keeping my old stuff	Jul 05 21:21
cubexyz	the harpsichord is making a comeback I think	Jul 05 21:22
razielle_tzu	that would be cool	Jul 05 21:22
cubexyz	Roland C-30 Digital Harpsichord :)	Jul 05 21:23
razielle_tzu	nice	Jul 05 21:23
razielle_tzu	man reddit had a field day with the wayland v mir v x11 thread	Jul 05 21:28
cubexyz	well it seems there's Xwayland so maybe it's no big deal	Jul 05 21:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Lxde why, also even that is newish, XFCE pre dates GNOME 2, GNome 2 was before lxde	Jul 05 21:41
cubexyz	well I see a lot of barking about Mir and Wayland, but I still use the old xlib function calls directly (sometimes)	Jul 05 21:42
razielle_tzu	it's not about the age, it's about the weight of it. lxde is still fairly light	Jul 05 21:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, razielle_tzu Ubuntu is going in interesting direction as is shown by these Ubuntu devices	Jul 05 21:43
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/compare-all-wms.png	Jul 05 21:45
cubexyz	still a bit on the fat size :)	Jul 05 21:45
cubexyz	mostly I use icewm	Jul 05 21:45
cubexyz	and I did try tinywm... it's awful :)	Jul 05 21:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	openbox isn't much	Jul 05 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	a black screen	Jul 05 21:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	and a right click menu	Jul 05 21:48
razielle_tzu	i know it's still a little bloated cubexyz but compared to gnome and kde it's fine :)	Jul 05 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, why don't you fancy GNOME, KDE, or guys :D ?	Jul 05 22:02
razielle_tzu	because they're all about looking pretty and adding things that distract from workflow	Jul 05 22:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	or guys :D ?	Jul 05 22:03
razielle_tzu	you know why i don't like guys	Jul 05 22:03
razielle_tzu	:P	Jul 05 22:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	no I don't	Jul 05 22:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I find Mate rather usable	Jul 05 22:03
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that's based on GNOME 2	Jul 05 22:04
razielle_tzu	mate is fine but i still prefer lxde or i3	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	GNOME Shell and Unity are a dab flashy	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE never been keen on that much	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but yet I got invovled with distro Mageia,w here most people into that it seems really like kde	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	they like to say when GNOME is a bit buggy in dev versions quite a few of them, dev vesions of the distro	Jul 05 22:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE is very uhmm, well it looks like WINDOWS, then geek to configure	Jul 05 22:06
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, KDE 5is probably a bit better but hmm	Jul 05 22:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	I'll agree with cubexyz thouh that Trinity is nice	Jul 05 22:07
razielle_tzu	isn't it called plasma instead of kde now?	Jul 05 22:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	the KDE 3 fork	Jul 05 22:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	sure or the interface is	Jul 05 22:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	KDE 3 is alright, but Iprefered GNOM E 2 still at the time	Jul 05 22:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess since both Fedora and Ubuntu came with it by default so	Jul 05 22:08
razielle_tzu	i like i3 because it kind of reminds me of workbench	Jul 05 22:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	don't think I have used i3	Jul 05 22:09
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cubexyz	I use _parts_ of KDE3... kedit, klipper, konsole, kmix, krename, kalzium...	Jul 05 22:26
cubexyz	I don't bother with the KDE DE itself any more	Jul 05 22:27
razielle_tzu	yeah, some parts of it are useful but as a whole it's just.. i don't know the right word	Jul 05 22:27
cubexyz	overly elaborate...?	Jul 05 22:28
razielle_tzu	that works	Jul 05 22:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, as a whole its what	Jul 05 22:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	try and get words	Jul 05 22:29
razielle_tzu	SebthreeBQM10HD: cubexyz helped me with that as overly elaborate is a good enough description	Jul 05 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	what does that mean	Jul 05 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	in the context as well	Jul 05 22:30
razielle_tzu	as a whole KDE is distracting rather than helpful regarding workflow, it looks and feels like it's trying to do too much and gets in my way when i'm doing something, whereas some of the smaller elements on their own within another DE are really useful, such as klipper	Jul 05 22:32
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cubexyz	U of Waterloo has a nice archive of x.org going back to X10R3	Jul 05 22:55
razielle_tzu	cool, i should maybe take a look	Jul 05 22:57
cubexyz	some of it will even compile on modern linux	Jul 05 22:57
cubexyz	ls	Jul 05 22:57
cubexyz	oops	Jul 05 22:57
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TweetTuxMachines	Arduino 101 gains faster compiler, better Curie support	Jul 05 22:59
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razielle_tzu	cubexyz: you got a link to the archive? i'm not finding it :(	Jul 05 23:02
cubexyz	ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/x.org/	Jul 05 23:03
razielle_tzu	thanks :D	Jul 05 23:03
cubexyz	sorry, I can't compile X10R3 xclock.c, I must have compiled something newer	Jul 05 23:06
cubexyz	weird, I'm going to have to recheck this	Jul 05 23:07
razielle_tzu	i would too, not gonna try to compile anything on this machine (it's my win10 gaming one) maybe when i jump on my T60	Jul 05 23:07
cubexyz	doh, I compiled X11R6 from 1994	Jul 05 23:09
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 05 23:09
cubexyz	but xclock.c had a 1989 date in it	Jul 05 23:09
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 05 23:10
cubexyz	still wrong though... X10R3 I think is 1985/1986 era	Jul 05 23:12
razielle_tzu	they have archives for all kinds of stuff	Jul 05 23:13
cubexyz	and X10R3 xclock references Tony Della Fera from DEC	Jul 05 23:13
cubexyz	a pity, I don't think I'm going to be able to easily compile anything from that era	Jul 05 23:14
razielle_tzu	wow, i've just bookmarked the main folder of it... there are so many things to look through, not just the Xorg stuff	Jul 05 23:14
cubexyz	ha, you need to look at the _Russian_ archives then	Jul 05 23:15
razielle_tzu	if i could read them, i would :P	Jul 05 23:15
cubexyz	the Russians have the best archives for openbsd	Jul 05 23:16
razielle_tzu	tbh one of the things i would love is the Amiga stuff.. i'd love to get one of my spare laptops running Icaros and have everything i used to use on my Amigas back	Jul 05 23:16
cubexyz	http://mirror.yandex.ru/pub/OpenBSD/	Jul 05 23:17
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razielle_tzu	wow, back to 2.0	Jul 05 23:17
cubexyz	that's what I use because I still use 4.7	Jul 05 23:17
razielle_tzu	cool	Jul 05 23:18
cubexyz	there's openbsd/amiga 3.2	Jul 05 23:22
razielle_tzu	that would be cool to try but what are the hardware reqs for it?	Jul 05 23:22
razielle_tzu	i don't think i've got anything i could run it on without it being a vm	Jul 05 23:22
cubexyz	ummm, A1200 with 68020+68851 or better	Jul 05 23:23
cubexyz	A3000 of course	Jul 05 23:23
razielle_tzu	yeah i'd have to try and set a vm up then, i've got no Amiga hardware better than an A600	Jul 05 23:24
cubexyz	painful :)	Jul 05 23:27
razielle_tzu	yeah i know	Jul 05 23:27
cubexyz	don't want to say impossible but very painful	Jul 05 23:27
razielle_tzu	i'd have to go searching to see if anyone else has even attempted it	Jul 05 23:28
cubexyz	there's a minix that should work, but it's pretty boring	Jul 05 23:31
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TweetTuxMachines	Can Desktop Linux Conquer its Challenges?	Jul 05 23:32
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razielle_tzu	tbh i should probably check icaros out again and see what they've updated. i know i can run amiga software on it	Jul 05 23:33
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cubexyz	the old amigaos had no seperation of kernel and user spaces	Jul 05 23:43
cubexyz	don't think AROS did either	Jul 05 23:44
cubexyz	s/seperation/separation/	Jul 05 23:44
razielle_tzu	i'm not sure. i do know i liked icaros but can't remember why i stopped using it	Jul 05 23:46
cubexyz	I fear it's because there's no MMU support	Jul 05 23:50
razielle_tzu	i think it was because i was struggling to get a few things working at the time and setting it up to dual boot was a PITA	Jul 05 23:50
cubexyz	even 1960s mainframes usually had some sort of MMU	Jul 05 23:52
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TweetTuxMachines	LzLabs launches product to move mainframe COBOL code to	Jul 05 23:53
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TweetTuxMachines	Chakra GNU/Linux Users Can Now Test KDE Plasma 5.7, Qt	Jul 05 23:53
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cubexyz	even the Commodorer 128 had the 8722 MMU	Jul 05 23:55
cubexyz	a pity the way home computers went...	Jul 05 23:55
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cubexyz	the amiga 500/600 was almost an orphan...	Jul 06 00:00
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cubexyz	bought my amiga 500 in 1987 and by 1994 commodore went belly up	Jul 06 00:01
cubexyz	for Unix on Amiga you probably need a Amiga 2500 or 3000	Jul 06 00:02
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cubexyz	honestly even though amigas had great games, it was not as fun for hacking on	Jul 06 00:10
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razielle_tzu	i learned a lot on the amiga, and later applied it to ms-dos	Jul 06 00:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ok	Jul 06 00:45
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TweetTuxMachines	Zebra Launches Its First Android-Based Enterprise	Jul 06 00:59
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cubexyz	the thing with Unix is it's not really simple	Jul 06 01:22
cubexyz	it's multiuser, MMU memory/resource protected, complex	Jul 06 01:23
razielle_tzu	i know	Jul 06 01:23
cubexyz	so there is a rather big learning curve there	Jul 06 01:23
cubexyz	I didn't appreciate Unix when I was younger	Jul 06 01:23
razielle_tzu	i liked shelldos and made a lot of changes to my fave games and an early version of workbench	Jul 06 01:23
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cubexyz	but (and this is a big one) AmigaDOS wasn't FOSS	Jul 06 01:26
cubexyz	Unix v6 was FOSS	Jul 06 01:26
razielle_tzu	true	Jul 06 01:26
cubexyz	so the old guard running Unix v5/v6 etc on PDP-11 had the advantage in access	Jul 06 01:27
razielle_tzu	well yeah but at that point for me the computers were bought by my dad or given to us by his neighbour and we had no net access	Jul 06 01:28
razielle_tzu	so it was an amiga 500+ (later an A1200) and some old 386 running ms-dos with some atronomy programs and games	Jul 06 01:29
razielle_tzu	*astronomy	Jul 06 01:29
cubexyz	what year?	Jul 06 01:29
razielle_tzu	so i learned to modify my fave games on the amiga and play with workbench	Jul 06 01:29
razielle_tzu	i can't remember, it would have been erly 90s though	Jul 06 01:30
razielle_tzu	*early	Jul 06 01:30
razielle_tzu	i used to obsess over the amiga magazines looking for things to do or modify and carried on even after commodore tanked	Jul 06 01:32
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TweetTuxMachines	Goodwill is the source code at this open coder collective	Jul 06 01:34
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razielle_tzu	94 upset me for a couple of reasons	Jul 06 01:34
cubexyz	there was hwgunix.lib for amiga from lattice C	Jul 06 01:34
cubexyz	that would have helped one get into Unix... you would be able to port stuff to amigados	Jul 06 01:34
cubexyz	I've been looking for that for a long time	Jul 06 01:35
razielle_tzu	if i'd have been older and had more say in what happened with the computers i'd have gotten into unix but as it stood i had to deal with my dad becoming a microsoft fan boy and not getting into alternatives to ms-dos or windows until my early to mid-teens	Jul 06 01:36
razielle_tzu	when i found a linux cd at my school :D	Jul 06 01:36
cubexyz	trying to remember where hwgunix.lib was from, it might have been GNU	Jul 06 01:38
razielle_tzu	yeah it's GNU	Jul 06 01:39
razielle_tzu	it's in the util/gnu category on aminet	Jul 06 01:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| ARTIK Cloud Challenge is now live! Learn what it has in store for Tizen - Tizen Experts		Jul 06 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750588885776867328	Jul 06 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/JKEyNYlpWd	Jul 06 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 08:34
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 08:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 08:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750593701123072001	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	Java on the Mainframe - on z/OS rather than Linux - An	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	opportunity well worth researching, if you run a	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	Mainframe https://t.co/hlf6R6SqbA (www.it-director.com)	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.it-director.com \| Java on the Mainframe - on z/OS rather than Linux - An opportunity...		Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750595187483738121	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	Linux: An Evolving Trend That Is High On Demand	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/NQcUqeSGWu (www.hostreview.com)	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux: An evolving trend that is high on demand \| HostReview.com		Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750595856152297472	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	Solus 2.0 Operating System to Introduce the Sol Package	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	Manager, Cool Features https://t.co/tDxW1xlUpJ	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 08:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Solus 2.0 Operating System to Introduce the Sol Package Manager, Cool Features		Jul 06 08:55
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750598936994443264	Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	Review of #Slackware 14.2 https://t.co/YgHaktFZFR	Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	(nwrickert2.wordpress.com)	Jul 06 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nwrickert2.wordpress.com \| Slackware 14.2 \| Thoughts on computing		Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750599311772319745	Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	"Using Slackware has been easy with my old trust KDE	Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	desktop." https://t.co/QC4NpzoB1U (ostatic.com)	Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ostatic.com \| Debian Bullseye, More Obnoxious Windows 10, Slack 14.2 Notes		Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750600254756646913	Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	First Thoughts on Linux Mint 18 “Sarah”	Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YmgDDIoTCH (www.adventuresinoss.com)	Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuresinoss.com \| First Thoughts on Linux Mint 18 “Sarah” \| Adventures in Open Source		Jul 06 09:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750600663407726596	Jul 06 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	June Another Great Month for the Raspberry Pi	Jul 06 09:07
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/YmgDDIoTCH (www.adventuresinoss.com)	Jul 06 09:07
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:07
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Solus 2.0 Operating System to Introduce the Sol...'		Jul 06 09:07
*TweetTuxMachines @ndboulton favourited 'LzLabs launches product to move mainframe COBOL code...'		Jul 06 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750602458141974528	Jul 06 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	When Linux is the face of kindness	Jul 06 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/p1kEuaUrQ1 (opensource.com)	Jul 06 09:11
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When Linux is the face of kindness \| Opensource.com		Jul 06 09:11
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750603024830230529	Jul 06 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	4 open source tools I used to write a Linux book	Jul 06 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/3bWinLAFDS (opensource.com)	Jul 06 09:36
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to write a book with open source tools \| Opensource.com		Jul 06 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609428785737728	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	Nextcloud 9 Released https://t.co/FriMUTFEq2	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Nextcloud 9 Released \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609429574217728	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	When Linux is the face of kindness	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/GWVwQ73vT4 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| When Linux is the face of kindness \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609430274715648	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	4 open source tools I used to write a Linux book	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/Ukhu6Gyfww (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 09:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| 4 open source tools I used to write a Linux book \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 09:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609430941544450	Jul 06 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	Vista 10 (Windows 10) and Linux https://t.co/ugVvSRM4SJ	Jul 06 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 10:39
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 10:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Vista 10 (Windows 10) and Linux \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 10:39
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750609431621021696	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Security Leftovers https://t.co/xtXhp2EKmU	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750619107737952256	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	Links 6/7/2016: KDE Plasma 5.7, DigiKam 5.0	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/wtnaV34Odj (techrights.org)	Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 10:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 6/7/2016: KDE Plasma 5.7, DigiKam 5.0 \| Techrights		Jul 06 10:40
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750632461839675392	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/669QJmHrg1	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: OSS \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750632462535970816	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/PbYjM3Kye7	Jul 06 12:13
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 12:13
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/KrapulaPhD/status/750662270502440960	Jul 06 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@KrapulaPhD: Illegal surveillance in EPO passively accepted by the ‘Administrative’ Council of EPO @reportrai3 @sole24ore https://t.co/6rstCIO4xr		Jul 06 18:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Sheikh_al_Touar: @KrapulaPhD The ‘Administrative’ Council is to Benoît Battistelli What FISA is to the NSA https://t.co/gFtRV0ikrn		Jul 06 18:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750758813372997632	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu Linux to be bundled as preferred OS with Pivotal	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	Cloud Foundry app platform https://t.co/PAEcEq9jWc	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.v3.co.uk) https://t.co/eHAHUV327q	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.enterprisetech.com)	Jul 06 19:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.v3.co.uk \| Ubuntu Linux to be bundled as preferred OS with Pivotal Cloud Foundry app platform \| V3		Jul 06 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisetech.com \| Pivotal Adds Ubuntu to Cloud Foundry		Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750763605965037568	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	"It looks like AMD has finally got the memo when it comes	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	to Linux machines." https://t.co/JjdSyoA7jw	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	(www.fudzilla.com)	Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 19:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fudzilla.com \| AMD improves its Linux drivers		Jul 06 19:53
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750764636685885440	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released https://t.co/vG1NcU4P6w	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tizenexperts.com)	Jul 06 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tizenexperts.com \| Tizen 2.4 Rev7 SDK Released - Tizen Experts		Jul 06 19:56
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750764810036514816	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Hands-On: Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 https://t.co/1Prm31yWnv	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.zdnet.com)	Jul 06 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hands-On: Raspberry Pi Zero v1.3 \| ZDNet		Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750765101179871232	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	Who needs a GUI? How to live in a Linux terminal.	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/O0LE2LPe6Y (www.networkworld.com)	Jul 06 19:56
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| Who needs a GUI? How to live in a Linux terminal. \| Network World		Jul 06 19:56
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jul 06 21:22
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750787005370535936	Jul 06 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	Why Nexus phones are now the only Android phones I	Jul 06 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	wholeheartedly recommend https://t.co/DnsPvp021I	Jul 06 21:36
TweetTuxMachines	(www.computerworld.com)	Jul 06 21:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Nexus phones are now the only Android phones I wholeheartedly recommend \| Computerworld		Jul 06 21:36
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750789294726455297	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat expands cloud management solution	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/7zokkVA7aS (www.gdnonline.com)	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 21:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gdnonline.com \| UAE Business: Red Hat expands cloud management solution		Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750790263019335680	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	Open source SSH clients https://t.co/1OjtHYo1uO	Jul 06 21:37
TweetTuxMachines	(fedoramagazine.org)	Jul 06 21:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SSL connect error ( status 0 @ https://fedoramagazine.org/open-source-ssh-clients/ )		Jul 06 21:37
cubexyz	not loving the massive popup ads on computerworld	Jul 06 21:39
cubexyz	meh, just can't get enthusiastic about smartphones	Jul 06 21:41
cubexyz	not super keen on laptops either...	Jul 06 21:43
cubexyz	I do like the idea of the pitop though, you can replace parts easily	Jul 06 21:45
razielle_tzu	depends on the laptop for me... and i'd love to kack together my own pitop	Jul 06 21:46
razielle_tzu	*hack	Jul 06 21:46
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/qu1j0t3/status/750795191108431872	Jul 06 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@qu1j0t3: I wonder why Saudi royalty would like to control a Western communications company… https://t.co/eeOPJVmQYS		Jul 06 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Former FB CTO has joined #twitter which I guess explains why Twitter became more like #Facebook (horrible). Then: https://t.co/RKUQSfv1IR		Jul 06 21:58
schestowitz	Maybe blackmail by investment. See 28 pages...	Jul 06 21:58
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750790632063500288	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	Java Deserialization attacks on JBoss Middleware	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RO6x5LqdyW (access.redhat.com)	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-access.redhat.com \| Java Deserialization attacks on JBoss Middleware - Red Hat Customer Portal		Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750791193185910785	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 improves security, but at a cost	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/q90YpZU7Oo (www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Mint 18 improves security, but at a cost - TechRepublic		Jul 06 22:01
*TweetTuxMachines @ptheoiasptk retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Open source SSH clients https://t.co/1OjtHYo1uO'		Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750796765578735617	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/zefsEMq6rk	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 22:01
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Gaming \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750796766681772032	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	AMD Linux News https://t.co/5YhNCFmaur	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| AMD Linux News \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750796767432626177	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	Android Leftovers https://t.co/iKO0nJwQBe	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 22:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 22:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Android Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 22:01
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750796768137187329	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	Security Leftovers https://t.co/wehjWW3qUJ	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Security Leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750796768879665152	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	Openwashing https://t.co/ZXiuVtznb5 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Openwashing \| Tux Machines		Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750802908862644224	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	Taming the Chaos of Modern Caches	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/mm9XgXHbGu (www.linux.com)	Jul 06 22:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 22:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Taming the Chaos of Modern Caches \| Linux.com \| The source for Linux information		Jul 06 22:26
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/lets9etloud1/status/750809439909736448 https://twitter.com/CaptainKurtis/status/750809507542994944	Jul 06 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lets9etloud1: @schestowitz You mean corrupt big timers n officials murdering small time pushers so they can't squeak to Duterte. #chess #strategy		Jul 06 22:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@CaptainKurtis: @schestowitz You're forgetting @GovGaryJohnson.		Jul 06 22:54
schestowitz	The media 'forgets' him all the time	Jul 06 22:54
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrankViewZ/status/750812790110158848	Jul 06 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrankViewZ: @tonyblairoffice @campbellclaret @schestowitz @EtonOldBoys Tony Blair The British Pol Pot #Chilcot #Blair		Jul 06 23:06
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/FrancisJeffrey7/status/750813345712730112	Jul 06 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@FrancisJeffrey7: Surprise, surprise... https://t.co/tXcNrSUjNA		Jul 06 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: Tony Bliar Told George W. #Bush , “If We Win Quickly, Everyone Will Be Our Friend.” https://t.co/NzRScWfXVw what a sociopath.		Jul 06 23:07
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Taming the Chaos of Modern Caches https://t.co/mm9XgXHbGu...'		Jul 06 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750806299810594816	Jul 06 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	New toolset makes it possible to build and ship Docker	Jul 06 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	containers within Ansible https://t.co/rn4AIG7r2J	Jul 06 23:27
TweetTuxMachines	(www.infoworld.com)	Jul 06 23:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New toolset makes it possible to build and ship Docker containers within Ansible \| InfoWorld		Jul 06 23:27
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 06 23:27
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7581835	Jul 06 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Re "If Wales can survive in the Euros do you doubt that the UK can survive outside the European Union?" https://twitter.com/ManagingIP/status/750598286344683520 #WALPOR		Jul 06 23:34
schestowitz	"its not about “survive” this thing was orchestrated by extremely wealthy so that they can build a trench between their wealth and the collapsing #EU."	Jul 06 23:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ManagingIP: @filemot Chris Coleman for PM? Gareth Bale as Foreign Sec? #WALPOR		Jul 06 23:34
schestowitz	"the average #British shmo is going to get bupkis out of this. #Brexit"	Jul 06 23:34
schestowitz	Depends on how one defines "average"	Jul 06 23:34
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/saveinventors/status/750821552871116800	Jul 06 23:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@saveinventors: @schestowitz call those #efficientinfringers		Jul 06 23:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750818562558734336	Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	SUSE as Microsoft Stooge https://t.co/XjLIWMqlh9	Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SUSE as Microsoft Stooge \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750818563296866304	Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/jv6fxYoJCL	Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750824527685423105	Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	Mint 18 - Forgetting Sarah Linux https://t.co/PVkHR4jRBL	Jul 07 00:06
TweetTuxMachines	(www.dedoimedo.com)	Jul 07 00:06
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TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/750953822697222144	Jul 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	30 days in a terminal: Day 0 https://t.co/hRBE2JtIXs	Jul 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.networkworld.com) via @networkworld @BryanLunduke	Jul 07 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com \| 30 days in a terminal: Day 0 — The adventure begins \| Network World		Jul 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines #LinuxSucks https://t.co/mdzCGSaKVv	Jul 07 08:41
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 08:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jesusguevarauto: 30 days in a terminal: Day 0 https://t.co/hRBE2JtIXs via @networkworld @BryanLunduke @tuxmachines #LinuxSucks https://t.co/mdzCGSaKVv		Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@jesusguevarauto http://twitter.com/jesusguevarauto/status/750955782515064832	Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	Presentation-ing within a Linux Terminal	Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines @NetworkWorld @BryanLunduke "Linux Sucks"™	Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/UNiMpEGdXj	Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 08:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jesusguevarauto: Presentation-ing within a Linux Terminal @tuxmachines @NetworkWorld @BryanLunduke "Linux Sucks"™ https://t.co/UNiMpEGdXj		Jul 07 08:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750957996927311874	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	Upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Mint 18 In Place	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/k3BJphiOm3 (www.adventuresinoss.com)	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adventuresinoss.com \| Upgrading Linux Mint 17.3 to Mint 18 In Place \| Adventures in Open Source		Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750958735212867584	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	Announcing new snap desktop launchers	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/MUZoYSk2IG (developer.ubuntu.com)	Jul 07 09:03
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ubuntu.com \| Announcing new snap desktop launchers \| Ubuntu developer portal		Jul 07 09:03
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*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nexus 6 Is Now an Unofficial Ubuntu Phone,...'		Jul 07 09:29
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Nexus 6 Is Now an Unofficial Ubuntu Phone,...'		Jul 07 09:29
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970103999533056	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	SUSE and Microsoft, Canonical and Pivotal	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/QglJWpBbny (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| SUSE and Microsoft, Canonical and Pivotal \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970104821583872	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Not Your Mother’s Linux https://t.co/MUKa9LYxoL	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Not Your Mother’s Linux \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970105769656320	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	Murdock Death Ruled Suicide, Terrible Linux Regressions	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/S4sCOxLOhH (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 09:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 09:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Murdock Death Ruled Suicide, Terrible Linux Regressions \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 09:30
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/jcalabra/status/750971257940684802	Jul 07 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jcalabra: @schestowitz @We3forDemocracy @JFXM owned by whom again? You guessed it...		Jul 07 09:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970106633547776	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	Grenoble continues to move schools to open source	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/eHRjDKfU7G (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Grenoble continues to move schools to open source \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750970107426320384	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	LibreOffice News https://t.co/2Gtwts1SHy	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| LibreOffice News \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750972150547410944	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	More Polaris & Tonga Fixes For Linux 4.7	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/AirTH5wpSy (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 07 10:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 10:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-More Polaris & Tonga Fixes For Linux 4.7 - Phoronix		Jul 07 10:21
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schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7583696	Jul 07 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: People who actually believe "Microsoft loves Linux" would also believe that Nigel Farage loves the European Union. A measure of gullibility.		Jul 07 10:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750983009373917184	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	Links 7/7/2016: New Information About Ian Murdock, New	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	Snap Desktop Launchers https://t.co/yyRAzdnsGp	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	(techrights.org)	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org \| Links 7/7/2016: New Information About Ian Murdock, New Snap Desktop Launchers \| Techrights		Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992914000392192	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	Gets First Point Release https://t.co/LA3wUD7Oxn	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First Point Release \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 11:00
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992914931523584	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Devices/Mobile https://t.co/67dV3lbBQN	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Linux Devices/Mobile \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992915690770432	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/TfBbRKOFUP	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 11:01
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 11:01
schestowitz	https://mobile.twitter.com/elizamurfitt1/status/751002235258204160	Jul 07 11:43
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schestowitz	https://twitter.com/elizamurfitt1/status/751002235258204160	Jul 07 13:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@elizamurfitt1: @schestowitz @cristinaprkr No surprise there, then.		Jul 07 13:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992916558909440	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	The Sharp 507SH is the first Android One phone for the	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	Land of the Rising Sun https://t.co/1O4u4m0dEo	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| The Sharp 507SH is the first Android One phone for the Land of the Rising Sun \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/750992917691412482	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/k9tlDzGDBY	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751020291766321152	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights https://t.co/VV6PyUw2yB	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 13:12
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 13:12
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*Now talking on #techrights		Jul 07 13:38
*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Jul 07 13:38
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jul 07 13:38
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751029510368272384	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Gets First Point Release https://t.co/Ks6xR1CNKj	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First Point Release		Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751029711925551104	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	The Sharp 507SH is the first Android One phone for the	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	Land of the Rising Sun https://t.co/N86rMmenqC	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	(www.digitaltrends.com)	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com \| Sharp Announces the 507SH Android One Phone \| Digital Trends		Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751030017757413376	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/nwD8Gw7tCy (joinup.ec.europa.eu)	Jul 07 13:43
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 13:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu \| France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project \| Joinup		Jul 07 13:43
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First...'		Jul 07 13:43
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schestowitz	urxvt	Jul 07 13:47
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4rn1yv/is_samsung_a_supporter_of_foss_or_not/	Jul 07 13:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Is Samsung a supporter of FOSS or not? : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pf7ul ]		Jul 07 13:47
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4ra44k/centos_steam_steam_controller_gamepad_and_keyboard/	Jul 07 13:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| CentOS + Steam + Steam Controller! (gamepad and keyboard). : linux [ http://ur1.ca/pf7ur ]		Jul 07 13:48
schestowitz	https://mobile.twitter.com/zoobab/status/751035262944305152	Jul 07 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com \| Twitter [ http://ur1.ca/pf7uv ]		Jul 07 13:49
schestowitz	https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/751035262944305152	Jul 07 13:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz xterm without all the bloat. I was still using it, until I had to change for bigger fonts.		Jul 07 13:49
schestowitz	scrolling was my main issue with it	Jul 07 13:49
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'FFmpeg 3.1 "Laplace" Open-Source Multimedia Framework Gets First...'		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751038712730030081	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	"let's finish our KDE summer fundraiser in a generous	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	way." https://t.co/IUOnsWWksN (linuxgrandma.blogspot.com)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgrandma.blogspot.com \| Linux Grandma: Last push! Let's get KDE fundraising over the line		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039288758771712	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SeYWIcM8U2 (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| France’s Inria unveils open source preservation project \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039289689985026	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	Push to promote open source software in healthcare	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/SiZrNIzwHK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Push to promote open source software in healthcare \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039290616868864	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	Today in Techrights https://t.co/NHhLcMQPUe	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Today in Techrights \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039291828998144	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	Storpool upgrades software-defined storage but remains	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-only https://t.co/mlnvycHDTK (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 14:05
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Storpool upgrades software-defined storage but remains Linux-only \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 14:05
*TweetTuxMachines @josema_enzo favourited 'Storpool upgrades software-defined storage but remains Linux-only https://t.co/mlnvycHDTK'		Jul 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751039926095970304	Jul 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	X11 Applications and Unity 8 https://t.co/CknHfASOaF	Jul 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines	(bregmatter.wordpress.com)	Jul 07 14:08
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bregmatter.wordpress.com \| X11 Applications and Unity 8 \| Bregmatter		Jul 07 14:08
schestowitz	https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4r5k1s/why_is_linux_so_ressource_intensive_these_days/	Jul 07 14:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com \| Why is linux so ressource intensive these days? : linux		Jul 07 14:19
*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Today in Techrights https://t.co/NHhLcMQPUe'		Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751041294869430272	Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	Dekko Is Shaping Up Nicely for Desktop Convergence	Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/LI7nLlCUVx (www.omgubuntu.co.uk)	Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk \| Dekko Is Shaping Up Nicely for Desktop Convergence - OMG! Ubuntu!		Jul 07 14:23
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751043957979750401	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	"Texas LinuxFest in Austin, Texas this weekend. Friday,	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	July 8" https://t.co/VsNIit6mTT (shallowsky.com)	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-shallowsky.com \| GIMP at Texas LinuxFest (Shallow Thoughts)		Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044173952872450	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	4 Best Mail Transfer Agents (MTA’s) for Linux	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/JexIQQcfVT (www.tecmint.com)	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tecmint.com \| 4 Best Mail Transfer Agents (MTA's) for Linux		Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044503142862848	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of Life on July	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines	28, 2016 https://t.co/Ltad9DeLYE (linux.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 14:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linux.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of Life on July 28, 2016		Jul 07 14:26
*TweetTuxMachines @techmuser favourited 'Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of...'		Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751044740049670144	Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	Samba Patched Against Important SMB2/3 Client Security	Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	Issue, Update Now https://t.co/vaAEj9Igci	Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Samba Patched Against Important SMB2/3 Client Security Issue, Update Now		Jul 07 14:35
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751046918814441472	Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s	Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	Encrypt Support, and New Look https://t.co/lGQgk6xiQs	Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s Encrypt Support, and New Look		Jul 07 14:36
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751047731448279040	Jul 07 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	Linux-4.4.15-stable Review Missing In Action	Jul 07 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/pj2KfSmWlP (mrpogson.com)	Jul 07 14:45
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mrpogson.com \| Linux-4.4.15-stable Review Missing In Action \| Robert Pogson		Jul 07 14:45
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751048002303909888	Jul 07 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat Is Working To Improve Linux Switchable Graphics	Jul 07 14:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/v2tZoAPJZV (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 07 14:46
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Is Working To Improve Linux Switchable Graphics - Phoronix		Jul 07 14:46
*TweetTuxMachines got exception: Unexpected end of ZLIB input stream ; reconnecting to Twitter...		Jul 07 14:51
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751052758124494849	Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	Vanguard Princess, a 2D fighting game that features an	Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	all-female cast is coming to Linux	Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/W8Kbetwk8e (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Vanguard Princess, a 2D fighting game that features an all-female cast is coming to Linux \| GamingOnLinux		Jul 07 15:02
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053159045459968	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	Improving Linux Switchable Graphics support	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/uNInfKfxri (hansdegoede.livejournal.com)	Jul 07 15:03
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053381171568640	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window Manager	Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8pywC8igbf (www.zdnet.com)	Jul 07 15:03
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to customise your Linux desktop: i3 Window Manager \| ZDNet		Jul 07 15:03
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751053856113561600	Jul 07 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	KDE Infrastructure on DigitalOcean	Jul 07 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/6oIjEMSbze (error)	Jul 07 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751054826432237568	Jul 07 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux	Jul 07 15:27
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ezrMXURJ58 (www.linux.com)	Jul 07 15:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/GUSLSanFelix/status/751060102636068864	Jul 07 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	retweeted by today's howtos https://t.co/jrtd9ibWMr	Jul 07 15:46
TweetTuxMachines	@GUSLSanFelix (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:46
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064725346213888	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/T98ryAUm0B	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS		Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064943429050368	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Encrypt Support, and New Look https://t.co/Gv1lYWPdqt	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064944347521026	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/P3F7kH1cGF	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:47
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064945156960257	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Kernel Space https://t.co/VRS9uza463	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Kernel Space \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064945857470465	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/xb3HVkcdbv (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Using Blender as Video Editing Software on Linux \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 15:47
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751064946897674240	Jul 07 15:52
TweetTuxMachines	Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack	Jul 07 15:52
TweetTuxMachines	from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS https://t.co/7kwVO9svsK	Jul 07 15:52
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 15:52
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel & Graphics Stack from Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 15:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s Encrypt...'		Jul 07 15:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel &...'		Jul 07 15:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'NethServer 7 Gets Shared Folder Refactoring, Let’s Encrypt...'		Jul 07 15:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS to Deliver the Kernel &...'		Jul 07 15:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) to Reach End of...'		Jul 07 15:52
*TweetTuxMachines @softpedialinux favourited 'Samba Patched Against Important SMB2/3 Client Security Issue,...'		Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751066905453203456	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	Is this the first Android phone Nokia is making?	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RfFDl7hKhp (bgr.com)	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nokia P1 Android smartphone leak \| BGR		Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751067573454835712	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	Google is reportedly working on its own Android Wear	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines	smartwatches https://t.co/fQ98W0NwVW (www.theverge.com)	Jul 07 15:59
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 15:59
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751068061487210497	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	JBoss EAP 7 Brings Red Hat Commercial Support for Java EE	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	7	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/9UhJFMHPTW (dzone.com)	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-JBoss EAP 7 Brings Red Hat Commercial Support for Java EE 7 - DZone Java		Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751068626812301312	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	Debian Perl Sprint 2016 https://t.co/A8JALcGAdy	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	(bits.debian.org)	Jul 07 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751069438124892160	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora Job Opening: Fedora Community Outreach and Impact	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	Lead https://t.co/yGgix52dCz (fedoramagazine.org)	Jul 07 17:21
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/ro2iQW9Lym (communityblog.fedoraproject.org)	Jul 07 17:21
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751088598309597188	Jul 07 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better	Jul 07 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	Switchable Graphics Support https://t.co/KxjbYHEZe3	Jul 07 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 07 17:42
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com \| Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better Switchable Graphics Support		Jul 07 17:42
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751089111470080000	Jul 07 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	The Pocket C.H.I.P. Is the Handheld Linux Machine I've	Jul 07 17:43
TweetTuxMachines	Been Looking For https://t.co/jgNs2KjgBq (lifehacker.com)	Jul 07 17:43
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lifehacker.com \| The PocketC.H.I.P. Is the Handheld Linux Machine I've Been Looking For		Jul 07 17:43
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112544643747840	Jul 07 18:56
TweetTuxMachines	Red Hat and Fedora https://t.co/mr167TMqpT	Jul 07 18:56
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 18:56
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Red Hat and Fedora \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 18:56
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112545419694080	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/DuvqbYDCs9	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 19:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's howtos \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112546153750528	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	today's leftovers https://t.co/GAXX99RPDF	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| today's leftovers \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112546967384064	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Switchable Graphics Support https://t.co/ISRMTTwhJ0	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 19:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org \| Fedora 25 GNU/Linux Distribution to Offer Better Switchable Graphics Support \| Tux Machines		Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751112547852398592	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	The Pocket C.H.I.P. Is the Handheld Linux Machine I've	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	Been Looking For https://t.co/jWnOQna8Tw	Jul 07 19:04
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 19:04
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jul 07 19:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751158077416615936	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	Greg Kroah-Hartman Gives an Inside Look at the Largest,	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	Fastest Software Project of All https://t.co/bNBYanDUkX	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 23:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751158078167396352	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	Tsuru open source PaaS puts developers first	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/gQA9GPbQKL (www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 07 23:24
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 07 23:24
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*Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org \| Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell		Jul 08 09:35
*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jul 08 09:35
r_schestowitz	cubexyz: also buggy	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	some wget hole found, patched	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	try curl	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	not sure if it's any better	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	never checked size of it	Jul 08 09:48
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/AJimenez1988/status/751337243722276864	Jul 08 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AJimenez1988: @schestowitz @thenation Truth be told when he took command the wars were unwinnable already.		Jul 08 09:49
r_schestowitz	https://joindiaspora.com/posts/7578704	Jul 08 09:50
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r_schestowitz	"Hahaha mine is dying. Thinking about a new machine :)"	Jul 08 09:50
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751328673467424768	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	How to handle security risks in Red Hat virtualization	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	environments https://t.co/6SkXMMiJ4S	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	(www.techrepublic.com)	Jul 08 11:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to handle security risks in Red Hat virtualization environments - TechRepublic		Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751350228729618432	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	Links 8/7/2016: Kubernetes 1.3, New Linux Foundation	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines	Events https://t.co/TRC4coVNDg (techrights.org)	Jul 08 11:41
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 11:41
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*TweetTuxMachines @schestowitz retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 8/7/2016: Kubernetes 1.3, New Linux Foundation Events...'		Jul 08 11:45
*TweetTuxMachines @The_Code_Shirts retweeted @tuxmachines: 'Links 8/7/2016: Kubernetes 1.3, New Linux Foundation Events...'		Jul 08 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367391251095553	Jul 08 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS https://t.co/P4xDqEew1P	Jul 08 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 11:48
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 11:48
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751367392098328577	Jul 08 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/ZoAaqvbxQ2	Jul 08 11:48
TweetTuxMachines	(www.tuxmachines.org)	Jul 08 11:48
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 11:48
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*Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012		Jul 08 17:24
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751451735605014528	Jul 08 17:25
TweetTuxMachines	The best budget Android phones you can buy [July 2016]	Jul 08 17:25
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/c43YE1IdcF (9to5google.com)	Jul 08 17:25
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 17:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The best budget Android phones you can buy [July 2016] \| 9to5Google		Jul 08 17:25
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751451966077865988	Jul 08 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	Nexus 6P and Galaxy S5 Mini https://t.co/ZcdZTnNPgj	Jul 08 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	(etbe.coker.com.au)	Jul 08 17:26
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 17:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au \| Nexus 6P and Galaxy S5 Mini « etbe - Russell Coker		Jul 08 17:26
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751452556782600192	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon Review: They Did it Again!	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/VJFVP7HzWL (www.hecticgeek.com)	Jul 08 17:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751452991270641664	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	How graphical installers introduced the user	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/CgpwNALqJ7 (www.linux-magazine.com)	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 17:30
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453146355040256	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	The Linux Setup - Cassidy James Blaede, elementary	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines	OS/System76 https://t.co/w0YnaqZJeZ (www.mylinuxrig.com)	Jul 08 17:30
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 17:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mylinuxrig.com \| The Linux Setup - Cassidy James Blaede, elementary... - My Linux Rig		Jul 08 17:30
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r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/otivar55/status/751453990437683204	Jul 08 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@otivar55: Hi dad xx https://t.co/8bhZomKWiF		Jul 08 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: UK’s secret, ongoing mass surveillance rigorously frisked by watchdog https://t.co/YkiKSEvH24 #surveillance #uk		Jul 08 17:34
r_schestowitz	https://twitter.com/aral/status/751454032531783680	Jul 08 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@aral: If we let it… #regulate #legislate #demonstrate https://t.co/RPcoYQTDeb		Jul 08 17:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz: How Facial Recognition Will Soon End Anonymity https://t.co/PDEBiv8lJC #privacy		Jul 08 17:34
TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453300722196480	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	LXLE 16.04 "Eclectica" Distro Will Be Based on Ubuntu	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	16.04 LTS, Beta Out Now https://t.co/Ea0QLIBDTf	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	(news.softpedia.com)	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines		Jul 08 17:38
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751453520595943424	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	UBOS beta 7 makes running TLS-enabled web apps even	Jul 08 17:38
TweetTuxMachines	easier on EC2, Raspberry Pi 3, others, with more apps	Jul 08 17:38
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SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ping	Jul 08 21:24
razielle_tzu	usp	Jul 08 21:24
razielle_tzu	*sup	Jul 08 21:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Why are some girls or a lot really, so sweet so cute, or uh mostly, well young ones anyway, I mean like 19 or so :D h eh, and if they reolise that or not ?	Jul 08 21:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	well the few who will actsaully message a guy of my age that is as well, the rest uh	Jul 08 21:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	honestly about 10 years age difference isn't that much	Jul 08 21:25
razielle_tzu	i have no idea, they just tend to be. i don't know many girls (online or irl) that are younger than 22	Jul 08 21:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I am seen as to old now by most girls who are younger than say 22 now	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I am in contact with one here and thee when I bother to text her	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	from a more friend ship making site	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	annoyingly she doens't text me first ever!	Jul 08 21:26
razielle_tzu	fair	Jul 08 21:26
razielle_tzu	few people message me first, got used to it	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	but when texting it's a bit of a fun, and she's sweet and such	Jul 08 21:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	annoyingly she won't just phone though one of those uh!	Jul 08 21:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, she also at first hought I was a bit to old to, but we stayed in contact anyway :d	Jul 08 21:27
razielle_tzu	i prefer text or IM... i get anxious on the phone	Jul 08 21:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah she's one of those gets anxious on the phone or so she says	Jul 08 21:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	that's something else, why do a lot of girls apparnatly get anxious on the phone ?	Jul 08 21:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	or young ish ones	Jul 08 21:27
razielle_tzu	there could be any number of reasons for it but it's mostly not being used to it because text/IM is so much easier for them	Jul 08 21:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah and I guess the younger ones are more used to it than us	Jul 08 21:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean I didn't have Internet access untill ike 10 then yes the world of online text chat etc	Jul 08 21:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	younger than us grown up with INtenret all there lifes a lot	Jul 08 21:29
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, why do you get anxious on the phone ?	Jul 08 21:29
razielle_tzu	i have general anxiety issues as well as being bipolar	Jul 08 21:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	ah right	Jul 08 21:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	what were the anxity issues ?	Jul 08 21:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, and aww but your awesome, except maybe for being so far up n orth h eh h eh, and being into girls h e h h eh altough that's kind of inteesting he h h eh	Jul 08 21:31
razielle_tzu	i was bullied until i was about 19 for various reasons as well as going through all kinds of shit as a young kid so i lost myself in books and games.. then later computers so i get nervous talking to people via any medium but text	Jul 08 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh chatting in the public channel, well you said you were open about stuff etc and that	Jul 08 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yes I can relate to that	Jul 08 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, in person world can like suck or mostly since bullying etc at shcool and what not or colege	Jul 08 21:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	then get home	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	and it's like WOW	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	Internet	Jul 08 21:33
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and most people on the Internet acsualy want to be your friend as well OW	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	WOW	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	that get in contact with	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	shame the in person world isn't as easy to make friends !	Jul 08 21:33
razielle_tzu	at 19 i was running with a skate crew that also did some parkour so if i wasn't online i was climbing, running or skating	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 21:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I remember when I used to help out in #ubuntu a lot in 2008 2009 and 2010	Jul 08 21:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	since it was like	Jul 08 21:34
razielle_tzu	and if i was online i was doing all kinds of things	Jul 08 21:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	a way to escape from the sucky in perosn life I was having at the time or well mostly sucky as well	Jul 08 21:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	and after the last sucky ICT course didn't go so well, for the social issues, bad lectures etc, well it made sense really, I know computers, I am good at helping people get set up etc	Jul 08 21:35
razielle_tzu	i wasn't on irc so much but i was easy to find on icq or various forums and some of the BBSs that were still running	Jul 08 21:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, probably the thing I have helped most with when it comes to Ubuntu has been partitining new installs and stuff like that	Jul 08 21:35
razielle_tzu	i've kinda gone off ubuntu, some of the distros based on it are ok but i'm leaning more towards CentOS and arch for linux now as well as openBSD	Jul 08 21:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, indeed I gone off of it really for a desktop computer altough been using it longer than intended on a newer lap top like that, since that's not set up properly yet how I want it for a few reasons	Jul 08 21:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	however for the phone and tablet I do indeed seem to be won over	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but Jolla phone with Salifish OS is also rather nice for example	Jul 08 21:37
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but well Desktop Ubuntu is going to get interesting again soon	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	starting with like 16.10	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	it's been quite boring the past few releases really	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	Unity 8 will be there not as the default, but as a default option in the next versibion	Jul 08 21:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	as an option from the default log in screen	Jul 08 21:38
razielle_tzu	14.04 as the last release i really liked but looking back i can't remember why	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	for now can try from a old one in the repos or a newer ppa on a computer	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	the last one I really liked was 8.10	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	Intrepid Ibex	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	really liked that release	Jul 08 21:38
SebthreeBQM10HD	the way Gnome 2 was like, and that awesome default background to	Jul 08 21:38
razielle_tzu	yeah Gnome2 was good	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, they started messing around with GNOME 2 after that customing it doing things I Wansn't keen on and such	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that later went to what became Unity as well	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	some of those ideas	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	became part of Unity really	Jul 08 21:39
razielle_tzu	Gnome3 and Unity are basically the same thing and they suck	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	the default install meant quite a lot to me years ago	Jul 08 21:39
cubexyz	X11 + motif :)	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	I wanted a good default install I still do	Jul 08 21:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so with 10.04 it was like ah!	Jul 08 21:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	to much things I didn't like in GNOME 2 that they had put in or whatever, and also that horrible new default theme	Jul 08 21:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	augine/pruple thing, which well at least looks good on the Ubuntu phone an tablet by default though the background they have :d	Jul 08 21:40
razielle_tzu	i'm either going to fix a mint install or replace it with openbsd. not sure yet	Jul 08 21:40
SebthreeBQM10HD	replace possibly with openbsd why and what's up with the mint install?	Jul 08 21:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	cybezyx uhmm what's motif ?	Jul 08 21:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz	Jul 08 21:41
razielle_tzu	it's not booting past the grub menu and i kinda want to give a different version of BSD a go	Jul 08 21:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	BSD why?	Jul 08 21:42
razielle_tzu	why not?	Jul 08 21:43
cubexyz	http://www.maxhost.org/other/mwm-with-antialiased-fonts.png	Jul 08 21:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh and h eh h eh I think it would be awesome to meet up some time in the future :) even if your into girls h eh h eh	Jul 08 21:43
razielle_tzu	looking good cubexyz	Jul 08 21:44
razielle_tzu	and yeah meet ups are always fun SebthreeBQM10HD	Jul 08 21:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it was Yorkshire though wasn't it or something like that?	Jul 08 21:44
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but maybe you'll end up going to the awesome FOSDEM or OGG Camp when that's probably on again	Jul 08 21:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	or something like that :)	Jul 08 21:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	no OGG Camp this year it seems, the UK event	Jul 08 21:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	England event	Jul 08 21:45
razielle_tzu	i don't make it to many events any more	Jul 08 21:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	why's that, and what have you been to then it seems?	Jul 08 21:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	my family may be a bit hmm me going to Brussels again next year for FOSDEM after what happended there the other month	Jul 08 21:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but it seems might even have a guy to go with who's coming to my LUG next time as well :d	Jul 08 21:45
razielle_tzu	i can't afford them at the moment but i've been to a couple of FOSSDEMs and some national events	Jul 08 21:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh wow you have been to FOSDEM	Jul 08 21:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	when did you go?	Jul 08 21:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I done 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, and this year, and those years for OGG Camp as well, well ok none this year it seems	Jul 08 21:46
razielle_tzu	2011 was the last one i could make	Jul 08 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	and indeed if not working with a well enough paid job or something like that	Jul 08 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	or with family who can help out enough or something or someone from if neassreyto cover costs :D	Jul 08 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	then yes events really are expensive, once adding in hotel in there, and more so if flying to another country as well	Jul 08 21:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	and the trains aren't that cheap for longish distance here as well really	Jul 08 21:48
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razielle_tzu	true	Jul 08 21:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	dum de dum DaemonFC long time no see I think ????	Jul 08 21:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah benefits money isn't really meant to be spent on events, or even 500 pound courses, but if you save up enough you could spend :d	Jul 08 21:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	like that	Jul 08 21:49
razielle_tzu	no that i've quit smoking i'm hoping to save for at least one national event next year	Jul 08 21:49
razielle_tzu	*now	Jul 08 21:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, 500 pounds for a sucky Level 2 course similar o the same as what I did at college last time uh no thanks, but someone who's coming to my LUG it sems is doing one now it's a self learn thing at ome though	Jul 08 21:49
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I am not spending 500 pounds on any course any time soon, and if I am going to spend such money, I'll make sure it's on a good course I Think :)	Jul 08 21:50
razielle_tzu	i'm doing a comp degree with a CCNA soon :D	Jul 08 21:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, oh you smoked, yeah that's not good, but congratulatiosn for quiting when you do that :)? how long did you smoke for?	Jul 08 21:51
razielle_tzu	16 years and i quit last week	Jul 08 21:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	your doing a what? what's that? got a link even ? oh yeah I can't click links yet on this tablet since... but the update is coming coming uhmm in uhmm I guess another few weeks or so yet	Jul 08 21:51
razielle_tzu	i'm doing a BSc in computing with the Open University and one of the module options is a Cisco qualification for network admin	Jul 08 21:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh right ok nice :)	Jul 08 21:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	but you go to be motivated enough to study at home for stuff like that	Jul 08 21:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	and it will cost yes	Jul 08 21:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	how much that cost?	Jul 08 21:52
razielle_tzu	i get most of the fees waived and what i have to pay is covered by loans from the SLC	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	fees waived how ?	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's SLC ?	Jul 08 21:53
razielle_tzu	student's loan company	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	what since low income benefits even ?	Jul 08 21:53
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 21:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	in other uhmm non related news, we are having a female prime minster next it seems	Jul 08 21:54
razielle_tzu	hopefully not for long	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	minds gone blank to the names right now, but uhmmm yes her probably, the uhmm	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	minds gone blank for names as I put	Jul 08 21:54
razielle_tzu	theresa may?	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	yep bingo that's it	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	Theresa May probably	Jul 08 21:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	there's another woman candidae, but I have a feeling she won't be it	Jul 08 21:54
razielle_tzu	they'll both be bad for the country and should call an early general election	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, you don't want a woman prime minster ?	Jul 08 21:55
razielle_tzu	i do but i want a DECENT one	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	who would be a decent one?	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	is Thersea May that bad really? ok she's conservative, but	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	she voted to remain and for ceratin marraiges and yeah	Jul 08 21:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	or so media saiid the tv	Jul 08 21:55
razielle_tzu	tbh the only mp i'd consider for PM would be corbyn (if he could sort his party ouT)	Jul 08 21:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	well there were issues there	Jul 08 21:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	he won't get in	Jul 08 21:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	a ED Miliband goverment could hve been interesting prime minster, but that didn't happen	Jul 08 21:56
razielle_tzu	if they call for an election to get rid of him as labour leader he'd win again and get rid of the people that are stabbing him in the back	Jul 08 21:56
razielle_tzu	they know this so they won't call for it	Jul 08 21:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, it might work for nicolas advantage having a woman to an extent or not	Jul 08 21:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I mean she will probably try and get a Scotland going free vote again so	Jul 08 21:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	referfendum	Jul 08 21:57
razielle_tzu	sturgeon would be a good leader on her own but hollyrood has to answer to westminster so she gets hobbled	Jul 08 21:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	hollyrood a place in Scotland ?	Jul 08 21:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	and indeed I agree with that it seems she would be a good prime minster or something like that, but yes Scotland has to answer to England/Westminster for now so	Jul 08 21:58
razielle_tzu	yeah, it's where the scottish parliament meet	Jul 08 21:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	I agree with my Scottish friend online freind, well mett him in 2012 he came here :d	Jul 08 21:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	I think I am agreeing with him more now	Jul 08 21:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	that Scotland should go free really	Jul 08 21:58
razielle_tzu	scotland should leave the uk and remain in the EU and Yorkshire should be made part of Scotland ;)	Jul 08 21:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	Yorkshire is nearish to Scotland	Jul 08 21:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	but that won't just became Scotland	Jul 08 21:59
razielle_tzu	it should	Jul 08 21:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	you think it should why ?	Jul 08 21:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	also actaully other than Wales quite a lot of the leave EU voters were up North	Jul 08 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	as well	Jul 08 22:00
razielle_tzu	because i'd rather answer to Hollyrood than Westminstter	Jul 08 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	or North west anyway or wahtever but hmm either way	Jul 08 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	North	Jul 08 22:00
razielle_tzu	of course they were... there's a TON of old people here that outvoted the younger people	Jul 08 22:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	to an extent it was good having EU there to like say no to ceratin things	Jul 08 22:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	that conservatives wanted etc	Jul 08 22:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	h eh	Jul 08 22:02
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ever crows funded anything?	Jul 08 22:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	crowd funded	Jul 08 22:10
razielle_tzu	not for myself no, have donated to a couple of projects though	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, well one of the interesting things I crowd funded ths year	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	was meant to be shipped like two weeks or so ago now	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	but	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	a fire in the factory instead	Jul 08 22:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but just seen a recent update ;) seems it will be shipped at the end of August, maybe sooner	Jul 08 22:11
razielle_tzu	shit happens, sometimes there's delays	Jul 08 22:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah indeed	Jul 08 22:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	but the fire happended like the weekend before htey were going to ship them	Jul 08 22:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, sometimes people go off with your money as well instead of getting anyting! that happended with one from last year it seems uh	Jul 08 22:13
razielle_tzu	most crowd funding won't take your money until the project is ready for shipping	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I coudn't just claim waht I had paid for invested whatever, got into a meail discussion, oh I was going to maybe buy patron I say	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	he trys to offer me more stuff at a discounted thing though	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	price	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, apparnatly the google play vouchester as singapore only part of one of some of the perks	Jul 08 22:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	there were broken pages on his site to	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	I had tipped off a bit in emails, things didn't just get fixed	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, eventually I as like ok update my account, asi n send me the other stuff, aparnatly I Had like 10 days to get out of I think, I try to get out of it, reolising I Don't want two of them etc plus the stand etc, uh there I meant	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	two with slight updates	Jul 08 22:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	three tablets	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	there cheapish Android tablets, with some kind of custom software or whatevr it was	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	but he didnt respond to the next month when apparnatly had been sending them out	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, and then teh sillyness began etc	Jul 08 22:16
razielle_tzu	i use kickstarter and indiegogo to check projects out because of how they handle funding for projects	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	I coun't just pay up, didn't have the o money as well	Jul 08 22:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah the one I Had issues with was on indiegog go	Jul 08 22:17
razielle_tzu	strange	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	he sent some more emails	Jul 08 22:17
razielle_tzu	they're usually pretty good	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	trying to get me to pay or see where I was etc	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	what had happended to me, I started not responding etc	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	months went by a bit, I emailed again in march asking for a full re fund, etc, ah yes before al that he had sent one like, we don't want ot open up the parcel	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	you agreed to pay for stuf, that's unprofessioanl of you etc etc	Jul 08 22:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway in March I emailed again, got the automatic email response from the server bu that was it	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so it seems this guy has gone off with my about 100 pounds	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I have got nothing	Jul 08 22:18
razielle_tzu	:/	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and yes apparnatly the parcel had been waiting there in Singapore	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	for months or whatever	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	the one that he coudl have opended up but didn'tj ust want to	Jul 08 22:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, now I Haven't contacted indiegogo about this have thought about it before, but going by google it seems, that indiegogo don't help much	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	they go like, uh it's not our fault, you invested money etc etc	Jul 08 22:19
razielle_tzu	they used to be really helpful, guess that's changed	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	it's up to you and th campaigner to try and sort things out	Jul 08 22:19
razielle_tzu	kickstarter still rock though	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	I should probably try indiegogo really	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	even though it's nearly a year now	Jul 08 22:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	I did also read osme where online, that apparnatly on indiegogo pretty much anything can go up on that	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	no checks basically	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	but on kickstarter they actsually check projects or something	Jul 08 22:20
razielle_tzu	yeah they do	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	so certain things that were rejected on kickstarter for whatever reason	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	will go on indiegogo instead it seems	Jul 08 22:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, a guy from my LUG, was like to me, crowd funded is a bit like giivng your money tothe bookies	Jul 08 22:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	he menas it's like a gamble	Jul 08 22:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess it is really, but it mostly works out I think. I have recieved some crowd funded things now :)	Jul 08 22:21
razielle_tzu	it can be if you're not vigilant with it	Jul 08 22:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but with hind sight a similar campain broken links	Jul 08 22:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	not that clear what going to actsaully get etc etc	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	would ring alarm bells now	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	after what hapended	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean after that even, one or two campains I din't fund, because I Thought it woudn't be worht it the waiting to see what would happpen or not etc, but otherwise might have	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, but yeah I Got scammed out of about 100 pounds then or something?	Jul 08 22:22
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and the tablet I Was trying to get ended up on Amazon as well, as part of the indiegogo thing they got	Jul 08 22:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	apparnatly it wasn't that great the hardware and such going by a comment	Jul 08 22:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	I even saw before that there was like a competin he was running and someon was going to get one for free aparnatly, uhmm if giving them away for free, why not send the one I paid for	Jul 08 22:23
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, Crowd funding is interesitng when it works, get interesting ech that won't get in retail ever and such	Jul 08 22:24
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 22:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, there are other types of campaings to, but I don't really look at that, or much, if I had more money I would possibly though more. so I stick to my main interest tech!	Jul 08 22:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	I could of had a cameo character named after me in a Creativ Commons film for example though, but didn't fund that in the end	Jul 08 22:25
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I like having interesting tech devices and such	Jul 08 22:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, stuf that most people won't have or kind of thing	Jul 08 22:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	I like being difernet :)	Jul 08 22:26
SebthreeBQM10HD	Android is good enough for what it is, but that's also mostly boring now, unless something based on it that's interesting or something, ANdroid is all over the place out there in the general public now	Jul 08 22:26
razielle_tzu	fair enough	Jul 08 22:27
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, so yeah Ubuntu phones jolla phone, firefox stuff etc	Jul 08 22:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	that's ineresting to	Jul 08 22:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	]	Jul 08 22:28
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 22:28
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm was moving tablet so wasn't going to put that character, but yes that looks like a :) and sure could put a :) at the end of that	Jul 08 22:29
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, I guess another interes of mine would be girls more, but so far I don't have much luck with that one uh h eh h eh	Jul 08 22:29
razielle_tzu	heh	Jul 08 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, remind me, you were tottally lesbain or bi ?	Jul 08 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	and either way you are an awesome person :)	Jul 08 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	geek girl wow :)	Jul 08 22:30
razielle_tzu	bi but leaning towards lesbian	Jul 08 22:30
SebthreeBQM10HD	h eh I remember when one of the most interesging people in here was MinceR h eh	Jul 08 22:31
SebthreeBQM10HD	and that australlian guy oiahom whatever he was called	Jul 08 22:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	and deamonfc sometimes h eh	Jul 08 22:32
SebthreeBQM10HD	but now we got razielle_tzu :) h eh	Jul 08 22:32
razielle_tzu	i'm not that interesting though	Jul 08 22:33
SebthreeBQM10HD	sorry cubexyz you were nice and kind of interesting to, but not enough with your old tech your fedora core 1 and yeah, h eh h eh sort of joking here	Jul 08 22:33
cubexyz	I don't think of FC1 as old	Jul 08 22:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I am still not sure how schestowitz does it, all that bloggin etc, whilst having a girl friend, having some kind of job, and also going to the gym	Jul 08 22:34
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz well it was from like 2003 wasn't it ?	Jul 08 22:34
cubexyz	old is mag core :)	Jul 08 22:35
razielle_tzu	it's called time management ;)	Jul 08 22:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's mag core ?	Jul 08 22:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah but its crazy in a way	Jul 08 22:35
cubexyz	ok, have you heard of 'core dumps'?	Jul 08 22:35
razielle_tzu	i know i couldn't do it right now	Jul 08 22:35
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, how he can do all that, atough he did say before that he would write some blog posts whils on say the tred meal at the gym if I reember correcly	Jul 08 22:36
cubexyz	I assume you have... the term comes from magnetic core memory...	Jul 08 22:36
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, even Tim the co host of the pod cast that was done before with him and schestowitz thought it to	Jul 08 22:36
cubexyz	in other words before semi-conductors	Jul 08 22:36
cubexyz	yes, I'm feeling the gen gap today :-/	Jul 08 22:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	cybexyx nah your not that old it seems, since core dumps means something to me	Jul 08 22:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I can't really think of what h eh right now	Jul 08 22:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	but yes tech thing	Jul 08 22:37
SebthreeBQM10HD	software	Jul 08 22:37
cubexyz	ok, old is Unix v5 from 1974...which I think is worthy of study	Jul 08 22:37
cubexyz	(almost) everything came out of Bell Labs remember	Jul 08 22:38
cubexyz	the transistor and Unix itself	Jul 08 22:38
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 08 22:38
cubexyz	all the other stuff like Linux, Android, all because of Bell Labs Unix	Jul 08 22:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	so uhjmm ah yes now I remember do you pretty much live on IRC razielle_tzu like 99% or so of the time or so, or well for now ?	Jul 08 22:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	and why :D ?	Jul 08 22:39
razielle_tzu	i'm always connected but not always here	Jul 08 22:39
cubexyz	even BSD is kind of a side-show, but also very important	Jul 08 22:39
SebthreeBQM10HD	Minix!	Jul 08 22:40
cubexyz	at least Minix supported Amiga for a while	Jul 08 22:41
cubexyz	very painful to use though	Jul 08 22:41
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah not usd that	Jul 08 22:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	not even in a vm	Jul 08 22:42
SebthreeBQM10HD	but I guss can download it from some where	Jul 08 22:42
razielle_tzu	probably	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	anyway BSD, MINI, UHMM Not so known OSes etc	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	nope	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	the world is uhmm	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	like it or not	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	mostly about, Windows, Mac OS X, and then Linux that's for desktop cmputing	Jul 08 22:43
cubexyz	except the tcp/ip stack was from BSD :)	Jul 08 22:43
cubexyz	kind of important	Jul 08 22:43
razielle_tzu	;)	Jul 08 22:43
SebthreeBQM10HD	for mobile, Android, IoS, Windows maybe kind of still	Jul 08 22:44
razielle_tzu	nah windows is almost dead on mobile looking at the last few quarters sales	Jul 08 22:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	Blackberry has gone Android so eh	Jul 08 22:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	and I see Ubuntu Touch as a possible future more main streme player in well	Jul 08 22:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	a few years I guess if that's going to happen	Jul 08 22:44
cubexyz	it's really true, people don't learn from history	Jul 08 22:44
SebthreeBQM10HD	yeah I did know that by the wya that tcp/ip was borrowed by Microsoft from BSD	Jul 08 22:45
razielle_tzu	"borrowed"	Jul 08 22:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh yeah Tizen might become quite big	Jul 08 22:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	if Samsung really do go	Jul 08 22:45
SebthreeBQM10HD	Android eh, we will do Tizen on our phones from now on	Jul 08 22:45
cubexyz	btw my Sony HDTV is a linux	Jul 08 22:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	that runs what?	Jul 08 22:46
razielle_tzu	aren't a lot of smart tvs?	Jul 08 22:46
cubexyz	it's not a smart tv, but yes	Jul 08 22:46
SebthreeBQM10HD	Panasonc still does firefox os i belive for smart tv's	Jul 08 22:46
cubexyz	there's probably Android HDTVs now? I don't know	Jul 08 22:47
razielle_tzu	possibly, i haven't looked	Jul 08 22:47
SebthreeBQM10HD	I have some sort of razielle_tzu robot, she runs Linux, and is awesome :), sometimes she wants to be run by BSD instead of Linux though, but I tell her then that no Linux is where stuff like that is motly at these days!	Jul 08 22:47
razielle_tzu	depends on what she wants to do with BSD :P	Jul 08 22:48
cubexyz	ok, quick recap on why BSD is important:	Jul 08 22:48
SebthreeBQM10HD	well what would a robot run by Linux be able to do if she was run by BSD instead :d ?	Jul 08 22:49
razielle_tzu	what can it do on linux that it wouldn't be able to do with bsd?	Jul 08 22:49
cubexyz	TCP/IP stack, vi, basically a more traditional Unix, more integrated in general	Jul 08 22:50
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, be cooler than the real you maybe he h h eh :d :) ?	Jul 08 22:50
razielle_tzu	lol	Jul 08 22:50
cubexyz	ok, I don't want to hear "what's vi"	Jul 08 22:50
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz ha ha I know what vi is I don't use it though, also I know there's like a thing between which is better vi or vim, or you know what even emacs :d	Jul 08 22:51
*SebthreeBQM10HD hmm hasn't emacs installed for years		Jul 08 22:51
SebthreeBQM10HD	hasn't had	Jul 08 22:52
razielle_tzu	wasn't there more that made bsd important? or are you just getting started?	Jul 08 22:52
razielle_tzu	:P	Jul 08 22:52
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh and you know what, Linux, BSD whatever whatever oh and that's GNU/Linux but you know what whatever to those, Hurd is where things are at now yeah, oh yeah baby awesome! he he	Jul 08 22:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	hmm more seriosuly if Hurd had been more developed etc	Jul 08 22:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	we would be in differnet world	Jul 08 22:53
SebthreeBQM10HD	things would have been mostly about Hurd rather than Linux	Jul 08 22:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	I guess	Jul 08 22:54
cubexyz	ok...strings, head, tail, uptime, telnet, ftp, ntp, ping, rlogin, sendmail	Jul 08 22:54
SebthreeBQM10HD	aoparntly hurd is actually resoanbly useble now for certain things, a bit like how ReactOS has actully gone reasoanbly far in th past fw yers now, you can run word and such in it :D	Jul 08 22:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, your saying those things came from the BSD world?	Jul 08 22:55
cubexyz	yes	Jul 08 22:55
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz ok I guess that would make sense, since it's mostly aimed at servers and neworks anyway isn't it ?	Jul 08 22:56
cubexyz	it's a long hair OS really	Jul 08 22:56
SebthreeBQM10HD	what do you mean by that?	Jul 08 22:57
cubexyz	Berkeley west coast academia...	Jul 08 22:57
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh?	Jul 08 22:58
cubexyz	University of California and all that	Jul 08 22:58
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh ok I guesss	Jul 08 22:59
cubexyz	Free Speech, Free source code :)	Jul 08 22:59
SebthreeBQM10HD	Free Speech Free Softare	Jul 08 23:00
SebthreeBQM10HD	software	Jul 08 23:00
cubexyz	ok, let me draw a picture...	Jul 08 23:00
cubexyz	IBM = the short hairs	Jul 08 23:00
cubexyz	Bell Labs and Berkeley = the long hairs :)	Jul 08 23:00
razielle_tzu	bsd was originally an extension of AT&T's Research UNIX	Jul 08 23:01
SebthreeBQM10HD	and razielle_tzu = hairy	Jul 08 23:01
cubexyz	IBM guys = mainframe, Bell Labs = minis	Jul 08 23:03
razielle_tzu	that's not nice SebthreeBQM10HD	Jul 08 23:04
razielle_tzu	i'm not THAT hairy, most of the time	Jul 08 23:04
cubexyz	I'm a late convert to BSD, but I know some stuff	Jul 08 23:05
razielle_tzu	:)	Jul 08 23:05
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, h eh I was being silly, and your head is probably quite hairy :d	Jul 08 23:06
razielle_tzu	you've seen one of my most recent pics :P	Jul 08 23:06
cubexyz	it goes a bit like this:	Jul 08 23:07
cubexyz	PDP-7 -> PDP-11/20 -> PDP-11/40 -> PDP-11/45 -> PDP-11/70 -> Vax 11/780	Jul 08 23:07
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, yeah why do quite few of the pretty girls a few things, but it doesn't matter your up north anyway h eh	Jul 08 23:07
razielle_tzu	now there's something i'd like to play with, Vax11/780	Jul 08 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's tht?	Jul 08 23:08
SebthreeBQM10HD	some sort of old softwre or computr or something ?	Jul 08 23:09
cubexyz	the first Vax man!	Jul 08 23:09
cubexyz	come on :)	Jul 08 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	what is Vax man?	Jul 08 23:09
razielle_tzu	i know right, i'd need a dino pen for it though :/	Jul 08 23:09
SebthreeBQM10HD	what's a dino pen ?	Jul 08 23:09
razielle_tzu	it's a room designed for the older computers that took up a lot of space	Jul 08 23:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 23:10
cubexyz	dino pen :)	Jul 08 23:10
razielle_tzu	i wonder if there are any abandoned ones in the area...	Jul 08 23:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	dinosauser pen ?	Jul 08 23:10
SebthreeBQM10HD	but seriosuly what do you mean dino pen ?	Jul 08 23:10
cubexyz	32v, the first 32-bit Unix, add that one to the list	Jul 08 23:11
razielle_tzu	it's the name given to the old mainframe rooms, it had space under the floor for the cabling, a halon system and a scram switch in case things set on fire	Jul 08 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh	Jul 08 23:11
SebthreeBQM10HD	and what' a scram switch?	Jul 08 23:11
razielle_tzu	it's a switch that cut the power and set off the halon system to put out fires	Jul 08 23:12
cubexyz	it's a nuke term originally I think	Jul 08 23:12
razielle_tzu	yeah because you'd hit it and scram	Jul 08 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, you were meant to be guy, your to nerd to be female a proper female :d and since you were meant to be guy you wan to date girls h eh	Jul 08 23:12
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, joke	Jul 08 23:12
cubexyz	the thing is, there used to be a lot of women programmers	Jul 08 23:13
razielle_tzu	we were the first >.<	Jul 08 23:13
razielle_tzu	arguably anyway	Jul 08 23:13
SebthreeBQM10HD	cubexyz, in America yeah I guess, probably not so much in UK	Jul 08 23:13
razielle_tzu	even here	Jul 08 23:13
razielle_tzu	back in the day	Jul 08 23:14
cubexyz	where is here?	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	well society ruined it	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	then	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	tech is motly a guy thing	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	as is enginnierng	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	tht' what society did	Jul 08 23:14
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: we're both in the UK, just different areas	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	plu they though boring things at school and collges	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	uh word, excel, poerpoint	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	oh how fun!	Jul 08 23:14
SebthreeBQM10HD	I mean that right here shows that computers are really exciteing!	Jul 08 23:15
SebthreeBQM10HD	right there above	Jul 08 23:15
cubexyz	the 70s might have actually been the best time in many ways	Jul 08 23:15
razielle_tzu	70s and early 70s	Jul 08 23:16
razielle_tzu	*80s	Jul 08 23:16
cubexyz	qmc and a lot of Universities were hacking on Unix v6	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	90's was alriht for me at infants and juniours school	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	mostly juniors	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	primary school	Jul 08 23:16
cubexyz	you know about QMC I imagine?	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	for computing I guss	Jul 08 23:16
razielle_tzu	the 90s could have gone better and don't even talk about 2000+ >.<	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	got to play around with the achornsa bit	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	,but mostly for gaming and that was about it	Jul 08 23:16
SebthreeBQM10HD	there was novel waever for netwofk and yeah	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	bbc for logo	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	Windows pc's came when I was lke yer 5 or 5	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	no Internet yet	Jul 08 23:17
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: remind me of QMC	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	at that school, but yes I got to try out some diffenret types of computrs a bit	Jul 08 23:17
SebthreeBQM10HD	razielle_tzu, ha ha yes, 2000 + was uhmm awesome, Windows PC's took over, bye bye the old achorns or nearly if not	Jul 08 23:18
cubexyz	Queen Mary College in London	Jul 08 23:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	well yes those went bye bye in early 200's	Jul 08 23:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	bye bye bbc if not gone already	Jul 08 23:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	hello wINDOWS PC's, and for some people macs	Jul 08 23:18
razielle_tzu	i know of the college but can't remember why it's important	Jul 08 23:18
SebthreeBQM10HD	and helo ICT being mostly Microsoft Office	Jul 08 23:18
cubexyz	qmc did a lot of excellent work on Unix	Jul 08 23:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	and if oidng any programing wel drag and drog on a form uhmm visual basic	Jul 08 23:19
cubexyz	I learned a lot from the qmc source code	Jul 08 23:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	bang a bit of code behind a button icon thing	Jul 08 23:19
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SebthreeBQM10HD	QMC what's that a old OS ?	Jul 08 23:19
razielle_tzu	SebthreeBQM10HD: it's a college in london	Jul 08 23:19
SebthreeBQM10HD	OH	Jul 08 23:19
razielle_tzu	queen mary's	Jul 08 23:20
razielle_tzu	it was the first place in teh uk to get unix iirc	Jul 08 23:20
cubexyz	QMC people wrote the pop library, I thought it was quite clever	Jul 08 23:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	OH	Jul 08 23:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	andindeed Unix was an American thing relly	Jul 08 23:20
SebthreeBQM10HD	e had achorn instad and bbc	Jul 08 23:21
SebthreeBQM10HD	we	Jul 08 23:21
cubexyz	QMC improved ed and created em	Jul 08 23:21
razielle_tzu	i'm reading an interview on it now	Jul 08 23:21
razielle_tzu	qmc was the first site to get unix (version 4 in 1973) :D	Jul 08 23:22
cubexyz	interesting, I didn't realize it went all the way back to v4	Jul 08 23:22
cubexyz	let me know if you find any v4 source	Jul 08 23:22
razielle_tzu	sure	Jul 08 23:23
cubexyz	I don't think anyone has a complete working Unix v4 now	Jul 08 23:23
razielle_tzu	all i'm finding is wiki pages and interviews, plus some stuff about compiling v4 apps for linux	Jul 08 23:24
SebthreeBQM10HD	or not cubexy anyway he's not old skool enough it turns out!	Jul 08 23:24
razielle_tzu	but cubexyz, here's the interview i'm reading http://www.eecs.qmul.ac.uk/~gc/history/	Jul 08 23:24
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razielle_tzu	it even has some stuff at hte bottom about em	Jul 08 23:25
cubexyz	Seb, it's all relative	Jul 08 23:25
cubexyz	I didn't work on ENIAC so ... :)	Jul 08 23:26
razielle_tzu	that would have been cool to work on	Jul 08 23:26
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razielle_tzu	ENIAC did well to last 9 years of operation given the materials and stuff available	Jul 08 23:30
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cubexyz	sometimes I watch 1940s films just to see the technology of the era	Jul 09 00:14
razielle_tzu	yeah	Jul 09 00:16
cubexyz	it was DARPA that really built the computer network to link all the research centres together	Jul 09 00:26
cubexyz	DARPA got interested in Unix, and after that we got enhanced 3BSD for DARPA	Jul 09 00:27
razielle_tzu	ah DARPA :3	Jul 09 00:28
cubexyz	I just think of BSD as a general purpose OS	Jul 09 00:28
razielle_tzu	it is, it's just that most people assume it's just for servers/infrastructure	Jul 09 00:29
cubexyz	but it is a good server OS for sure	Jul 09 00:29
cubexyz	there's even openbsd on PDAs like the Sharp Zaurus...	Jul 09 00:30
cubexyz	I mentioned BSD on Amiga & Vax	Jul 09 00:30
razielle_tzu	one of the rasons BSD isn't as well known is unlike Linux and the rest it doesn't have any real corporate backing/pushers despite how widely it's deployed on the infrastructure of the net	Jul 09 00:31
razielle_tzu	*reasons	Jul 09 00:31
cubexyz	there's some BSD dislike (even hate) in the Linux community	Jul 09 00:34
razielle_tzu	i don't see why though	Jul 09 00:34
cubexyz	I heard that Theo de Raadt kind of is hard to get along with	Jul 09 00:35
cubexyz	and there's the whole BSD vs GPL thing	Jul 09 00:35
razielle_tzu	yeah but Linus is a bitch to get on with too most of the time	Jul 09 00:36
cubexyz	yes... well I can't really argue with that :)	Jul 09 00:36
cubexyz	I was treated fairly well by the old guard Unix people	Jul 09 00:37
razielle_tzu	and tbf licensing arguments are silly, use whatever is appropriate for the project and be done with it	Jul 09 00:37
cubexyz	well I first started chatting in #linux I wasn't treated well	Jul 09 00:37
cubexyz	s/well/when/	Jul 09 00:38
cubexyz	I was from the sysv Unix world, just learning about Linux	Jul 09 00:38
razielle_tzu	i haven't been into any of the dedicated OS channels apart from the openbsd one and even in there i haven't spoken yet... it's not a social channel and i don't need help yet though	Jul 09 00:38
cubexyz	the thing is Unix itself started out pretty open... then it closed up and Linux came along and picked up the slack	Jul 09 00:41
cubexyz	then BSD became open again	Jul 09 00:41
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TweetTuxMachines	Initial Open-Source GeForce GTX 1000 “Pascal” Nouveau	Jul 09 08:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751673889680420864	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	The world is swimming in open source, but only one	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	company is making any money https://t.co/i4o49J4yBl	Jul 09 08:13
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751675474619740160	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	The world is swimming in open source, but only one	Jul 09 08:13
TweetTuxMachines	company is making any money https://t.co/giIgvoGNdQ	Jul 09 08:13
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu https://t.co/mKCzprbiyy	Jul 09 08:14
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TweetTuxMachines	OSS in the Back End https://t.co/5Lt9eCw8Bh	Jul 09 08:14
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TweetTuxMachines	Linux at 25, Windows Alternatives, Tumbleweed Latest	Jul 09 08:14
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TweetTuxMachines	TeamViewer Alternatives for Linux https://t.co/KrpqqFFg3h	Jul 09 10:34
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TweetTuxMachines	A classic MMO goes open source, The Other 99 comes to	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	Linux, and more gaming news	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/L4KobXN8IK (opensource.com)	Jul 09 13:37
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751752049574965248	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	Qualcomm Told Google About The Android Encryption Flaw In	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	2014, So Why The Delay To Patch It?	Jul 09 13:37
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/2xBWmFrxoq (www.techtimes.com)	Jul 09 13:37
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: OSS and Sharing https://t.co/yhtJXjkwQA	Jul 09 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming https://t.co/nI8nLGGuMJ	Jul 09 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/gVLbrw3Lzx	Jul 09 13:39
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TweetTuxMachines	Links 9/7/2016: Skype Hype, Wine 1.9.14	Jul 09 14:50
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/o6wJ9IocTo (techrights.org)	Jul 09 14:50
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751792072936521733	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	The State Of Debian's Paid Long Term Support Project	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/8BdQdDiCQ2 (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751792546574131200	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	Have you seen Black Ice? A really rather cool hack and	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	shoot FPS with Linux & SteamOS support	Jul 09 16:00
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/IWoGCk7TFj (www.gamingonlinux.com)	Jul 09 16:00
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TweetTuxMachines	TeamViewer Alternatives for Linux https://t.co/FzUPPHXl91	Jul 09 16:24
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751794278557478914	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Released With New Features — A	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	Blazing Fast 16MB Linux Distro https://t.co/a7EDwPI8bl	Jul 09 16:25
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TweetTuxMachines	Trying The Radeon RX 480 & R9 Fury With The AMDGPU Code	Jul 09 16:25
TweetTuxMachines	For Linux 4.8 https://t.co/SXgdo925Of (www.phoronix.com)	Jul 09 16:25
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751799297159684096	Jul 09 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	What happened to Kate in Randa? https://t.co/jMeXODM3nn	Jul 09 16:46
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TweetTuxMachines	SketchUp running on Ubuntu 16.04 - Tutorial	Jul 09 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/iI50xZtVlU (www.dedoimedo.com)	Jul 09 16:46
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TweetTuxMachines	[Dolphin] Checksums made easy https://t.co/10J1v68d6a	Jul 09 16:46
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751804073482063872	Jul 09 16:46
TweetTuxMachines	Linux debugging tools I love https://t.co/3elkn4n7p0	Jul 09 16:46
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TweetTuxMachines	What If Linux Users Made Movies! https://t.co/DXUqWNvWqU	Jul 09 17:12
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TweetTuxMachines	A checklist for Docker in the Enterprise	Jul 09 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	https://t.co/RaHgMj9qai (zwischenzugs.wordpress.com)	Jul 09 17:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751811196102189056	Jul 09 17:12
TweetTuxMachines	FreeBSD 11.0 Reaches Beta https://t.co/TrQN3g56hr	Jul 09 17:12
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751811196957757440	Jul 09 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	Tiny Core Linux 7.2 Released With New Features — A	Jul 09 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	Blazing Fast 16MB Linux Distro https://t.co/IGuDL3tBjL	Jul 09 18:26
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751811197888933888	Jul 09 18:26
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: KDE https://t.co/TjdthyjY6o	Jul 09 18:26
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TweetTuxMachines	What If Linux Users Made Movies! https://t.co/qjzg9rz0ND	Jul 09 18:26
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TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Ubuntu and Debian https://t.co/DnyvSnAS66	Jul 09 18:26
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TweetTuxMachines	today's howtos https://t.co/WO4fQAsl6H	Jul 09 18:27
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751829856715837440	Jul 09 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	NSA PRISM and Linux https://t.co/BWUDXyYVg3	Jul 09 18:35
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TweetTuxMachines	@tuxmachines http://twitter.com/tuxmachines/status/751829857395367936	Jul 09 18:35
TweetTuxMachines	Leftovers: Gaming and Graphics https://t.co/lNf9yCQSPi	Jul 09 18:35
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DaemonFC	https://www.thenation.com/article/orwell-in-puerto-rico-congress-promises-a-new-dictatorship/	Jul 09 19:16
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DaemonFC	This would never happen to a state.	Jul 09 19:16
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schestowitz	DaemonFC: colony	Jul 09 19:45
schestowitz	they use a euphemism, "territory"	Jul 09 19:45
schestowitz	and give them barely any rights	Jul 09 19:46
schestowitz	except maybe the right to acquire a credit card :/	Jul 09 19:46
DaemonFC	schestowitz, No way to avoid paying the debt unless they disconnect from the global banking system entirely.	Jul 09 19:48
DaemonFC	Then they should go ahead with their original debt restructuring plan and ignore Congress.	Jul 09 19:49
DaemonFC	At this point, it's hard to imagine their situation getting much worse.	Jul 09 19:49
DaemonFC	http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2014/07/04/hate-taxes-move-to-tax-free-puerto-rico-stay-american-avoid-irs/#6d418c7d38e2	Jul 09 20:29
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DaemonFC	Millionaires moving there for low taxes.	Jul 09 20:29
DaemonFC	The entire tax rate is only 4%.	Jul 09 20:30
DaemonFC	That would just barely cover the Illinois income tax.	Jul 09 20:30
DaemonFC	You'd still have your entire federal tax bill. The federal tax bracket for most people is 15%.	Jul 09 20:30
DaemonFC	Of course, regular working-class Americans wouldn't be able to move to Puerto Rico. There's really no job opportunities there.	Jul 09 20:31
DaemonFC	But the people who are already rich and don't need work can move there to evade their tax bill and keep their US citizenship.	Jul 09 20:31
DaemonFC	schestowitz, I thought about applying for citizenship in Canada once.	Jul 09 20:32
DaemonFC	A company that I worked for offered to move me to Toronto and get me a work visa, but Canadian citizenship is pretty tough to get.	Jul 09 20:32
DaemonFC	Unlike America, they actually have immigration laws that are enforced, to the letter.	Jul 09 20:33
DaemonFC	If you try to move there illegally, you won't be able to get a job or rent an apartment. Without a valid SIN number, employers and landlords there actually WILL call immigration on you.	Jul 09 20:33
DaemonFC	That's why there's only about 35,000 illegal immigrants in all of Canada, and most of them are in relatives basements.	Jul 09 20:33
DaemonFC	You can't get a job, rent an apartment, or open a bank account.	Jul 09 20:34
cubexyz	ok, the new Sony TVs have Android... at least some of them	Jul 09 20:34
DaemonFC	In the US all you have to do is hop the border and try to avoid encounters with the police.	Jul 09 20:34
DaemonFC	Crooked landlords and businessmen are everywhere.	Jul 09 20:34
razielle_tzu	cubexyz: i thought some of them might be android	Jul 09 20:35
DaemonFC	They'll process a fake Social Security number that belongs to someone else, and the federal government doesn't really look into it as long as the illegal immigrant is paying their taxes.	Jul 09 20:35
cubexyz	my streamer isn't even on the supported list	Jul 09 20:35
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DaemonFC	Social Security has this thing called a Suspension account where they put all of the money that they can't track back to a legitimate tax return.	Jul 09 20:35
DaemonFC	It has tens of billions of dollars in it at any given time. They use it to buy treasury bills, and earn interest. The interest goes into the Social Security trust fund immediately. The principal is taken after several years of not being able to track down who has paid it.	Jul 09 20:36
DaemonFC	So illegal immigrants are basically propping up Social Security. They're paying billions of dollars in taxes each year into a system they'll never draw benefits from.	Jul 09 20:37
DaemonFC	Social Security looks a lot more closely at BENEFIT PAYOUTS than it does money coming in. :)	Jul 09 20:37
cubexyz	the new paradigm will be: work 'till you drop :)	Jul 09 20:37
razielle_tzu	i thought was laredy happening	Jul 09 20:38
razielle_tzu	*already	Jul 09 20:38
DaemonFC	cubexyz, Yeah. They're "raising the retirement age" slowly enough that most people don't notice.	Jul 09 20:38
DaemonFC	My grandparents got full Social Security benefits at 65. My parents will have to wait until they're 66.5.	Jul 09 20:38
DaemonFC	I'll have to wait until I'm 67. My brother will have to be 68.	Jul 09 20:38
DaemonFC	Rich people who eat a steady diet of gourmet food and get all the medical care they need are living to be 100, so they use that to justify cutting benefits for janitors and bus drivers.	Jul 09 20:39
cubexyz	gourmet food isn't necessarily healthy...	Jul 09 20:39
DaemonFC	Most of the victims of Social Security are black people.	Jul 09 20:40
DaemonFC	Statistically, they die before they cost Social Security much/any money.	Jul 09 20:40
cubexyz	why is that?	Jul 09 20:41
DaemonFC	When you have them paying in their whole life and statistically they die at 69-70, and white people live to be 80-82....	Jul 09 20:41
DaemonFC	White people are on the system for 15-17 years. Blacks are on the system for 4-5.	Jul 09 20:41
DaemonFC	So Social Security takes money from poor black people and gives it to middle class white people.	Jul 09 20:42
DaemonFC	cubexyz, Whenever you have a pension system ran by the government, there's going to be problems.	Jul 09 20:44
DaemonFC	Thieving politicians can't help but be tempted to raid a pile of cash to spend immediately, putting in IOUs.	Jul 09 20:44
cubexyz	what's the alternative? Pensions run by private companies?	Jul 09 20:44
DaemonFC	The state of Illinois is one of the worst examples of this.	Jul 09 20:44
DaemonFC	The state literally has about a quarter in assets for every dollar in liabilities.	Jul 09 20:45
DaemonFC	cubexyz, I think they should switch to a defined benefit pension.	Jul 09 20:45
DaemonFC	Let workers decide what they want to do with their money.	Jul 09 20:45
DaemonFC	Most workers in America have to do this anyway, in addition to putting money into an insolvent government pension program.	Jul 09 20:46
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DaemonFC	We know that if nothing is done, Social Security's trust fund will run out of treasury bills in the year 2033, and it will only pay out about 76% of promised benefits, because it will only be able to spend the taxes it is collecting.	Jul 09 20:47
DaemonFC	Now, the average benefit per month is about $1,200, which is hard to live on even without a cut.	Jul 09 20:47
DaemonFC	After the cut, the average payment will be just $912 a month.	Jul 09 20:47
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DaemonFC	Out of that, you then have to pay your Medicare premiums.	Jul 09 20:48
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DaemonFC	Because you can't sign up for Social Security and refuse Medicare.	Jul 09 20:48
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DaemonFC	So people who depend on Social Security will be living on about $790 a month.	Jul 09 20:48
DaemonFC	And it's unclear where you can do that.	Jul 09 20:48
DaemonFC	Probably not in the United States.	Jul 09 20:48
cubexyz	Iowa?	Jul 09 20:49
cubexyz	things seemed less expensive there	Jul 09 20:49
DaemonFC	Well, if you already own your home, then maybe.	Jul 09 20:49
DaemonFC	If you're paying on a mortgage/rent you're talking $500-600 a month just to stay in your home.	Jul 09 20:50
DaemonFC	And that doesn't include gas/electric.	Jul 09 20:50
DaemonFC	or food.	Jul 09 20:50
DaemonFC	So you need a private retirement account anyway.	Jul 09 20:50
DaemonFC	I told John to put 5% of his salary in the Thrift Savings Plan because it would be stupid not to.	Jul 09 20:51
DaemonFC	They match him 100% up to that amount, so not contributing 5% would be really dumb.	Jul 09 20:51
DaemonFC	Then once it's in there, you can choose what index funds to invest in.	Jul 09 20:51
DaemonFC	Some people just put it all into government bonds. They don't earn much, but it's considered a guaranteed thing.	Jul 09 20:52
DaemonFC	If you put 100% into the G fund, you're getting the same deal that Social Security gets.	Jul 09 20:52
DaemonFC	But it's in an individual account, not a government "social insurance" program, so it's still your money.	Jul 09 20:52
DaemonFC	The performance of the stock market funds has been so bad in the last year that the government bonds fund has outperformed it!	Jul 09 20:54
DaemonFC	The interest rate on US government bonds is at record lows right now.	Jul 09 20:56
DaemonFC	It can get away with barely paying any interest because the rest of the world is a bigger mess. Some countries are actually making you pay them to loan them your money. :)	Jul 09 20:56
DaemonFC	I have a feeling that there will be a massive correction in the stock market at some point. It's unprecedented that stocks are incredibly high while bonds are so low.	Jul 09 20:59
DaemonFC	people don't typically dive into the bond market unless they they don't see a better choice.	Jul 09 20:59
DaemonFC	Of course, the other explanation is that the bonds are low because the Federal Reserve and foreign investors are buying them as a way of keeping their money in a safe place while their own government is punishing them for buying domestic bonds.	Jul 09 21:00
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DaemonFC	I managed to avoid paying People's Gas and Electric for gas service. I had the landlord remove the gas stove and put a cap on the pipe, and then I bought a huge toaster oven and some hot plates from Walmart.	Jul 09 23:10
DaemonFC	It costs about $20 a month to have the gas on even if you don't do anything with it except keep the pilot light in your oven going.	Jul 09 23:11
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