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Re: Guidelines docs on ftp.debian.org.

Bruce Perens writes:
> 
> Yes, I have the authority, but for me to be a micro-manager would be
> unproductive. 

Wow, a manager who understands hos role!  I know a couple who could learn to 
let small decisions stay small ;)  (and to keep their darn noses out of 
things like who makes the coffee...)

> I do think the revision numbers were a good idea, and I thought having a
> separate field for them was fine, 

I don't know.  On the one hand, it seems like it would be easier to identify
"debian only" packages with -0, and "upstream maintainer maintains debian
package" as generally having -1.  I don't really think that the second is all
that special case.  It's just more likely that the revision numbers will stay
low-- bugs won't get fixed with new debian revisions through patches, 
there will probably just be a new release for all.

I don't know.  This whole thing boils down to mechanics.  I'm not sure why
the whole concept of version numbering generates so much heat, considering
it's arbitrary and it's usually best to just use what works.  Heck, if we
were Microsoft, the next version of debian would be debian 6.0 ;)

I'm really not sure why revision numbers are all that necessary to keep
track of separately for anything really, all that we need to know is that 
1.3 < 1.3-1 < 1.3-12 < 1.4

> and I sometimes wish Ian wasn't so darned set in his opinions 

Yeah, but he certainly summarized my feelings WRT pine quite well ;)

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