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RE: Unstable Master



Hi Dale Scheetz;  On 25-Apr-96 you wrote: 
> > Yesterday new-master.debian.org was unavailable most of the day. This
> morning I was able to get in, but had a lockup before downloading more
> than 5 files. New-master.debian.org seems to have gone off the air, again.

Most ofthe day?  I was here from 0845 until 1900 PDT and it was working.  
I dis take it down for about 10 minutes, twice to re-boot a new kernel, 
after Matt told me he was caught up.

Indeed this morning it was dead.  Panicked again.  Please understand that
I do not have SCSI problems.  Linux kernel 1.3.whatever does.  It is broken
and buggy.  Namely, it will crash under load of certain types.  I have four
Linux machines running here.  ALL will panic on SCSI unless you avoid certain
things.  These operations cannot be avoided on master :-(

I am spending much too much time on tracking this problem. 

> Is Simon still having scsi problems with the buslogic card?

The problem is not with the Buslogic cards.  It is in what is called ``scsi
midlevel code'', centered around drivers/scsi/scsi.c.  It has such an 
architecture as to guarantee that command queues WILL overrun, and when 
they do overrun, there will be no way to recover.  Hence, panic.

> It would be very helpful to the rest of us if Simon could advertise the
> time windows when testing new kernels will NOT be going on at master.

I will, to the debian-masters list.

> Previously he suggested that evenings would be more stable, but my
> experience lately has been less than positive.
> Hope we get this resolved soon...

I am running 1.3.77+ (specially patched 1.3.77) on master.  I did re-boot
1.3.90 for two minutes a few days ago.  Then I tried 1.3.94 yesterday for about
2 hours.  Every time i do that, I first try the kernel on another host first.
If it boots cleanly and stays up for a day or so, I try nomis, then master.

I hope I can get over these soon.  I take no joy in crashes, nor in taking mail
such as this.  We decided to run master on Linux kernel.  Until such kernel 
stabilizes, we will have a yoyo.  We can always setup an NT ftp server.  It cras
hes
with CC:mail but we do not care.   Right?

If any of you want to participate in a re-design of hte Linux SCSI subsystem,
drop me a note.

And PLEASE, PLEASE, please:

  If you witness disruption of service on master, please contact me in the order
  below:

  0.  Mail help@i-Connect.Net
  1.  Mail shimon@i-Connect.net
  2.  Try ``talk shimon@i-Connect.Net''
  3.  Call 503.677.2900
  4.  Call 503.677.2898
  5.  Dial 503.441.1681 and leave 1111 as a paging no.

If none of these worked, it means I am dead, nobody mans the support line, nobod
y is in the
office and our entire feed is dead and there is no telephone service in Beaveron
, OR.


Sincerely Yours,           (Sent on 04/25/96, 14:35:48 by XF-Mail)

Simon Shapiro
Director of Technology     i-Connect.Net, a Division of iConnect Corp.
Shimon@i-Connect.Net       13455 SW Allen Blvd., Suite 140 Beaverton OR 97008