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Re: RMS (was Re: Copyright response from Pine Development)



This is a description of how I would like to see our relationship with
the FSF.  Understand RMS's goals when he makes a request and determine
whether there is a way of meeting those goals, but keeping our own
priorities.  Sometimes RMS won't agree with our interpretation of his
goals, but much of the time, we should be able to reach a common
ground.

At least once, I was able to convince RMS to change his mind through
some pressure and a lot of (somewhat) reasoned arguments.  I know that
it is possible.

kevin


>>>>> "Raul" == Raul Miller <rdm@tad.micro.umn.edu> writes:


> However, a lot of this diffuses if you hold some empathy for him, and
> keep your perspective.  Note that empathy is not the same thing as
> "yes sir, yes sir."  And, frankly, I'm amazed at anyone who expresses
> reverence towards RMS.

> But, you don't need reverence to tackle technical (or even social)
> issues.  I don't know, maybe I've been corrupted by my current job
> (where my financial security has depended for years on, uh...
> creatively reinterpreting management directives).

> However, in any design/development context you have a responsibility
> to understand what the real needs are.  Frequently, this means
> questioning your boss (and I mean in the sense of talking and asking
> questions, not silent scepticism).  Too often, this can mean going way
> outside the defined bounds of activity to address some gap in vision.
> Etc.

> Yes, I know that personal friction can be very tiring.  But... 

> I think that RMS has done me a tremendous lot of personal good (in
> terms of providing me with decent tools, and some interesting outlooks
> on life).  I cut him a fair bit of slack on that issue alone.