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Re: Possible Partnership

> > What I would propose is a partnership between them and us such that they
> > can take over most/all of contrib & non-free and any work they do for
> > "free" packages gets sent straight back to us.  Even without this, though,
> > the partnership could still be beneficial.
> >
> > It is not their desire to sell a proprietary system (like Caldera), but
> > rather one that includes some software that Debian currently classifies as
> > "non-free".
> 
> Good news, just one question:
> 
> I'm not completely sure why they would want to single out "non-free".
> Why not just make seperate releases for packages where the company
> thinks they can make a better package (or faster bugfix or whatever)
> than the current debian release?

I'm not sure I understand.  I think the best distinction is that they
are making a product that they can distribute freely where Debian is
making a product that can be modified and redistributed by anyone.

They could provide a "better package", as you say, and would do so if
they felt it necessary, but it would be duplicated effort and nobody
want that.


> Also, I maintain gs (in the core distr), and gs-aladdin (in non-free).
> Would that mean I would have to give up gs-aladdin? Again, to me it
> makes much more sence if they were to keep the debian release of both
> packgase, and, if they feel they can improve eighter of them, just
> release an improved version of that (or both) packages. Then, if
> I later agree with their changes, I'd just copy their changes into
> the "ordinary" (core+non-free) debian release.

I would try to set it up such that (for this example), you would still
maintain both packages, but the files uploaded to "non-free" would actually
reside on their site instead of master.debian.org.  I can't see why they
would have any problem with this.

Moving "contrib" and "non-free" completely out of Debian is not a necessity
of this partnership, just a possibility.  I think the biggest gain from it
for us would be the ability to say,

	...and if you want more software and the ability to get paid
	support, then contact...

                                          Brian
                                 ( bcwhite@verisim.com )

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