Testing DR-DOS for incompatibility
Category:Sabotage
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Other areas I know DR-DOS is weak:
Their disk cache sucks
They probably have problems with some rational extended programs such as lotus release 3.1 when they're loaded in the HMA.
Should test them with QEMM (their has been talk on their forum that QEMM doesn't support them).
I added philba, tomle, and mikedr to cc line. They may have some good input.
Eric.
> From sergiop Wed MAr 20 16:11:16 1991 To: ericst; jimla; johnen; terrib Subject: dr dos compatibility testing Date: Tue Mar 20 16:05:26 pdt 1990
DOS Marketing would like to have a second round of dr dos testing done. After speaking with Terri, she mentioned to me that XCAL tested dos 5 in a networking environment with dos and windows apps.
I would like to have a similar test done with dr dos 5. This way we can see how dr dos and dos 5 compare under the same environment.
While XCAl did an extensive study of dos 5 using a variety of apps, I think we might want to take a subset of those apps for dr dos. This would keep the costs down but still compare apples to apples.
Here is where I need your help. I want to come up with a list of those appls that we think are best suited to test with dri. I want dri tested with networking software, a memory manager, dos and win apps and anything else you can think of that might raise some degree of incompatibility.
FIY, our Windows PSS people are receiving calls reporting problems with dr dos and win 3.
In order to tell a strong story we need to explore where dr dos is vulnerable.
From: richf To: dosmktg Subject: FW: DR DOS Surveys Date: Wed, Apr 24, 1991 1:22 PM
Date: Wed, Apr 24, 13:19:32 PDT 1991
8 responces - not huge, but not all that low, actually, in any case, people are having problems with dr and windows. we're not making it up.
> From: clarkh Tue Apr 23 17:29:04 1991 To: richf sergiop Cc: sharonm Subject: DR DOS Surveys Date: Tue Apr 23 17:28:55 PDT 1991
The survey is over. We had a whopping 8 responces. Seven from DOD-SYS group and 1 from "other"
Eight DR DOS users
- Six were running Windows 3.0 - Two of these required a special configuration, two did not, two were unknown.
- Five related the problem to an incompatibility with DR DOS, one was unknown
- Three had their system hang, two had a seriously impared system, one a minor inconvenience.
- One Quick C 2.5 user - No specila configuration
- Problem was unrelated to DR DOS
- A minor inconvenience.
- One DR DOS user switching to MS-DOS - No special configuration
- Having compatibility problems with 3rd party software.
- Seriously impared
The survey text follows:
DR DOS Survey
Instructions: Please incorporate the customer survey into your routine. If you find that an application is running on top of Digital research DOS and that the problem the customer is encountering is related, include all the rlevant information. If more space is needed to describe the problem, please use the back of the sheet.
Customer Survey
1. What operating system are you using? (If DR DOS please continue.)
2. What Microsoft application are you using?
DR DOS user
#1 ________________
DR DOS user
#2 ________________
3. Was a special configuration necessary to run with DR DOS (If yes, please explain.)
user
#1 ________________
#2 ________________
Technician Survey
1. Was the problem related to an incompatibility with DR DOS? (If yes, a brief description.)
user
#1 ________________
#2 ________________
2. What was the severity level of the problem? (1 = system hangs, 2 = Seriously impairs, 3 = minor inconvenience)
#1 ________________ #2 ________________
From: bradc To: juliewis Cc: bradc; philla; richf Subject: RE: DR DOS Date: Mon, Apr 29, 1991 11:18 AM
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 11:16:12 PDT 1991
is this the post office that we just gave permission to roll out a boatload of copies or someone else?
I do not want to give up any major account to dri. Julie pls get us more info so we can help or set up a meeting where we can present and understand their issues.
Brad
> From: richf Fri Apr 26 11:36:42 1991 To: juliewis Cc: bradc; juliewis; philla; richf Subject: RE: DR DOS Date: Fri Apr 26 11:33:03 PDT 1991
Working on a 286 and 386 CPU version. None specific how they will deliver, as one or 3 different SKUs. Hints that th new version will fine tune their memory management, add Data security and better utilise the HD storage capacity. (unsure if this means compression or less gaps) He is convinced to get a next verson out this summer. He hints that the public should look forward and judge themselves of this could be jsut a new version or a new generation. Brad what do we know about this?
From: richardf To: bradc Cc: jeffl; joachimk; oemman; ronh Subject: dr win Date: Fri, Jun 28, 1991 5:49 PM
Date: Fri, Jun 28, 17:48:43 1991
DRI is agressing big time, in our accounts. This past week marks more activity that we have seen from them than ever before we have seen this press release, run into them at a start up down in LA and in Swan computer an account we do value (FG DOS goig to royalty DOS) Brad i do not know where the 250k units came from, we have not data to suggest. Entertainment marketing is that big, they are the guys who sell inexoensive things on the cable shopping nework. (YES we HATE losing them.) If we know about the fact we are in competition we will employ you Kathleen do we need help on Swan ?
We will redouble our efforts to compat these guys. I have a few ideas myself.
richardf
> From: bradc Fri Jun 28 14:07:28 1991 To: jeffl; richardf; ronh; sergiop Subject: dr win Cc: bradc Date: Fri Jun 28 14:05:55 1991
i'm confused. did dr get a win with this premier company for 250K units a year or is the other mail trying to imply otherwise, could you clarify this for me?
If yes, i'm sure yu are as angry about this as i am. we may not get every win, but i would really like to know ahead of time when an account is close to dr, and it appears that in this case we may have had no idea if dr is getting close
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support in the wina20.386Other areas I know DR-DOS is weak:
Should test them with QEMM (their has been talk on their forum that QEMM doesn't support them).
I added philba, tomle, and mikedr to cc line. They may have some good input.
Eric.
> From sergiop Wed MAr 20 16:11:16 1991 To: ericst; jimla; johnen; terrib Subject: dr dos compatibility testing Date: Tue Mar 20 16:05:26 pdt 1990
DOS Marketing would like to have a second round of dr dos testing done. After speaking with Terri, she mentioned to me that XCAL tested dos 5 in a networking environment with dos and windows apps.
I would like to have a similar test done with dr dos 5. This way we can see how dr dos and dos 5 compare under the same environment.
While XCAl did an extensive study of dos 5 using a variety of apps, I think we might want to take a subset of those apps for dr dos. This would keep the costs down but still compare apples to apples.
Here is where I need your help. I want to come up with a list of those appls that we think are best suited to test with dri. I want dri tested with networking software, a memory manager, dos and win apps and anything else you can think of that might raise some degree of incompatibility.
FIY, our Windows PSS people are receiving calls reporting problems with dr dos and win 3.
In order to tell a strong story we need to explore where dr dos is vulnerable.
From: richf To: dosmktg Subject: FW: DR DOS Surveys Date: Wed, Apr 24, 1991 1:22 PM
Date: Wed, Apr 24, 13:19:32 PDT 1991
8 responces - not huge, but not all that low, actually, in any case, people are having problems with dr and windows. we're not making it up.
> From: clarkh Tue Apr 23 17:29:04 1991 To: richf sergiop Cc: sharonm Subject: DR DOS Surveys Date: Tue Apr 23 17:28:55 PDT 1991
The survey is over. We had a whopping 8 responces. Seven from DOD-SYS group and 1 from "other"
Eight DR DOS users
- Six were running Windows 3.0 - Two of these required a special configuration, two did not, two were unknown.
- Five related the problem to an incompatibility with DR DOS, one was unknown
- Three had their system hang, two had a seriously impared system, one a minor inconvenience.
- One Quick C 2.5 user - No specila configuration
- Problem was unrelated to DR DOS
- A minor inconvenience.
- One DR DOS user switching to MS-DOS - No special configuration
- Having compatibility problems with 3rd party software.
- Seriously impared
The survey text follows:
DR DOS Survey
Instructions: Please incorporate the customer survey into your routine. If you find that an application is running on top of Digital research DOS and that the problem the customer is encountering is related, include all the rlevant information. If more space is needed to describe the problem, please use the back of the sheet.
Customer Survey
1. What operating system are you using? (If DR DOS please continue.)
2. What Microsoft application are you using?
DR DOS user
#1 ________________
DR DOS user
#2 ________________
3. Was a special configuration necessary to run with DR DOS (If yes, please explain.)
user
#1 ________________
#2 ________________
Technician Survey
1. Was the problem related to an incompatibility with DR DOS? (If yes, a brief description.)
user
#1 ________________
#2 ________________
2. What was the severity level of the problem? (1 = system hangs, 2 = Seriously impairs, 3 = minor inconvenience)
#1 ________________ #2 ________________
From: bradc To: juliewis Cc: bradc; philla; richf Subject: RE: DR DOS Date: Mon, Apr 29, 1991 11:18 AM
Date: Sun, Apr 28, 11:16:12 PDT 1991
is this the post office that we just gave permission to roll out a boatload of copies or someone else?
I do not want to give up any major account to dri. Julie pls get us more info so we can help or set up a meeting where we can present and understand their issues.
Brad
> From: richf Fri Apr 26 11:36:42 1991 To: juliewis Cc: bradc; juliewis; philla; richf Subject: RE: DR DOS Date: Fri Apr 26 11:33:03 PDT 1991
Working on a 286 and 386 CPU version. None specific how they will deliver, as one or 3 different SKUs. Hints that th new version will fine tune their memory management, add Data security and better utilise the HD storage capacity. (unsure if this means compression or less gaps) He is convinced to get a next verson out this summer. He hints that the public should look forward and judge themselves of this could be jsut a new version or a new generation. Brad what do we know about this?
From: richardf To: bradc Cc: jeffl; joachimk; oemman; ronh Subject: dr win Date: Fri, Jun 28, 1991 5:49 PM
Date: Fri, Jun 28, 17:48:43 1991
DRI is agressing big time, in our accounts. This past week marks more activity that we have seen from them than ever before we have seen this press release, run into them at a start up down in LA and in Swan computer an account we do value (FG DOS goig to royalty DOS) Brad i do not know where the 250k units came from, we have not data to suggest. Entertainment marketing is that big, they are the guys who sell inexoensive things on the cable shopping nework. (YES we HATE losing them.) If we know about the fact we are in competition we will employ you Kathleen do we need help on Swan ?
We will redouble our efforts to compat these guys. I have a few ideas myself.
richardf
> From: bradc Fri Jun 28 14:07:28 1991 To: jeffl; richardf; ronh; sergiop Subject: dr win Cc: bradc Date: Fri Jun 28 14:05:55 1991
i'm confused. did dr get a win with this premier company for 250K units a year or is the other mail trying to imply otherwise, could you clarify this for me?
If yes, i'm sure yu are as angry about this as i am. we may not get every win, but i would really like to know ahead of time when an account is close to dr, and it appears that in this case we may have had no idea if dr is getting close
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