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== analysing the Mac to innovate Windows . ==
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From: Steven Sinofsky
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To: Bill Gates:
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Subject: Re: Marginal cost for Mac
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Date: Friday, January 28, 1994 7:23 PM
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For all this we should be analysing the Mac system as it evolves and improves
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and innovating what makes sense. Whenever we do this, we should make sure it
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gets expressed in both the Mac and Windows through WLM. This sort of makes our
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Windows APIs on the Mac the union of the features and gives more features to
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windows. This is very hard and should only be  a goal, not a requirement.
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..
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With Wings, I think, optimistically, there is a real chance to undermine the
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Mac. Features that are Mac-specific could lose a lot of luster if they don't
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come from Wings and Wings is the way all the smaller commercial mac programs
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get writer.
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..
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From: Bill Gates
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To: Steven Sinofsky
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Subject: Re: Marginal cost for Mac
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Date: Friday, January 28, 1994 4:13 PM
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I am still trying to figure out how we can get lots of ISVs to use Wings
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without actually strengthening Mac against Windows by making it a nice Windows
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clone and letting people like LOTUS easily attack us.
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..
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02002.pdf
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translation: copy the best features of the Mac into the Windows API. Provide
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them on both platforms but don't let the Mac version look too nice.
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--
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court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.

Revision as of 19:20, 22 January 2009


billg: an ISV that writes to COR is just fucked ..

From: John Ludwig Sent: Thurdsay, August 21, 1997 9:03 AM To: Don Bradford Subject: conversations with billg last nite

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I was at the exec staff meeting last nite and there were 3 interesting exchanges with bill and the whole group about apple

1. bill's toop priority is for us to get the browser in october os release from apple. we should do whatever it takes to make this happen. if we get shut out, we should escalate to bill. you should make sure that we are engaging deeply with apple on this one and resolving any and all issues.

2. on the java work bill says the ball is in our court to come up with a win/win solution. he suspects that we should be cooperating only at the lowest level - native code interfaces, jits, etcx, not at the class lib level. bill was clear that his whole goal here is to keep apple and sun split. he doesn't care that much about being aligned with apple. he just wants tham split from other potential allies.

3. on xplatform class libs, we had an interesting and at times entertaining discussion. bill first asserted that we should be taking the entire COR infrastructure to all platforms. bobmu and i educated him about the expense of doing so - bobmu was pretty clear that there is no plan to take COR anywhere but windows. bill was initially shocked at this - he even said "so an isv that writes to COR is just fucked" this had us all roling on the floor at the irony here - bobmu said "we prefer to say taking full advantage of our platform bill" bill realized what he had said and agreed that most of COR should not be ported everywhere. ther was no clear conclusion to this discussion but overall i think ther was a sense that most of the work would be windows-centric and that we would not be working in general to take it all xplatform. the exception might be some limited dcom pieces for large vertical isvs who need unix solutions too.

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0_2759.pdf


analysing the Mac to innovate Windows .

From: Steven Sinofsky To: Bill Gates: Subject: Re: Marginal cost for Mac Date: Friday, January 28, 1994 7:23 PM

For all this we should be analysing the Mac system as it evolves and improves and innovating what makes sense. Whenever we do this, we should make sure it gets expressed in both the Mac and Windows through WLM. This sort of makes our Windows APIs on the Mac the union of the features and gives more features to windows. This is very hard and should only be a goal, not a requirement.

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With Wings, I think, optimistically, there is a real chance to undermine the Mac. Features that are Mac-specific could lose a lot of luster if they don't come from Wings and Wings is the way all the smaller commercial mac programs get writer.

..

From: Bill Gates To: Steven Sinofsky Subject: Re: Marginal cost for Mac Date: Friday, January 28, 1994 4:13 PM


I am still trying to figure out how we can get lots of ISVs to use Wings without actually strengthening Mac against Windows by making it a nice Windows clone and letting people like LOTUS easily attack us.

.. http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02002.pdf

translation: copy the best features of the Mac into the Windows API. Provide them on both platforms but don't let the Mac version look too nice.

-- court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.

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