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== MS to Netscape try our 800 number .. ==
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From: chrisjo chrisjo@microsoft.com
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Sent: Thursday, August 31,1995 6:08 AM
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To: jeff@netscape.com; miken@netscape.com; troy@netscape.com
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Cc: thomasre@ns.netscape.com; chrisjo@ns.netscape.com; drosen@microsoft.com
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Subject: Follow on from our discussions
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As per earlier conversations, here are our deliverables and next steps.
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1. RNAPH.DLL
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Apologies for the delay in delivering this component. RC 1 of this DLL is available and attached below. We will release final bits next week, we need to run a final test pass and do a final build, and also complete our license agreement. It will be licensed under exactly the same terms as URL.DLL. In particular, please make sure that you follow the instructions for loading the DLL in order to ensure that you run on future versions of Windows 95 and Windows NT.
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2. Associations in the Registry
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As per our agreement, we will modify our next release of Internet Explorer to prompt the user before overwriting the associations in the registry. Our next beta release will have this feature. Our prompt will be something like: "Do you want to make Internet Explorer the default Web browser"? YesNo, Ask me again next time". Our understanding was that your next beta release would do this as well. When can we expect a release with these changes? We would like to ensure that our actions and yours are coordinated.
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3. Netscape Online Store
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For some reason, your online store is detecting use of your browser, not browser features. We have a browser that supports SSL, and your site is rejecting it for purchase, with the message. "Because you are not using Netscape Navigator, you do not have adequate security to make a purchase from the Netscape General Store. If you wish to securely encrypt your credit information, you can download Netscape Navigator and continue shopping". Can you explain why we get this message, even though we do have adequate security? We believe that our support of SSL should be recognized by Netscape through your support of our browser by your servers.
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4. Developer Support
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In terms of industry standards and interoperability, we need to continue to work closely together. However, over the past several months, you've had access to our development team that other ISV's have not. We have gladly given that access to ensure that we foster a broader relationship. We are now ramping up to full spped on new development efforts, and cannot afford to continue this level of support. Fairness dictates that all future technical questions must be routed through standard channels. If these are not sufficient you can also purchase premium support, which will give you a Microsoft contact you can use for all your questions. Please let me know if you are interested in this option and I can provide you with a contact.
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Let me know if you have questions or comments, and also help me understand points 2 and 3 above
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Thanks - Chris Jones
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From: Troy Chevalier (SMTP:troy:netscape.com)
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Sent Thursday, August 31, 1995 7:59 PM
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To: chrisjo@microsoft.com; jeff@netscape.com; mikeh@netscape.com; troy@netscape.com
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Cc: chrisjo@ns.netscape.com; drosen@microsoft.com; thomasre@ns.netscape.com
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Subject: RE: Follow on from our discussions
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So perhaps you can define what "standard" channels mean as far as getting developer support?
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We would be happy with any support at all in figuring out how to get the GenInstall() and network device installer routines to work for us. There's no sample code on the DDK, there's nothing on the MSDN CDs, and you guys haven't answered a single question we have asked.
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Troy
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From: chrisjo chrisjo@microsoft.com
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Sent: Friday, Sepember 01, 1995 10:50 AM
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To: jeff@netscape.com; miken@netscape.com; troy@netscape.com
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Cc: thomasre@ns.netscape.com; chrisjo@ns.netscape.com; drosen@microsoft.com
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Subject: RE: Follow on from our discussions
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Troy, as per our phone conversation, you should try (800) 936-3500 and sign up for Premier Developer Support. This is the option most major ISV's have, and will provide you with a dedicated channel you can use to answer all of your questions. I understand you may be having problems getting through, and we are looking into this on our end, but realize that we are also answering Win95 support questions so our load at this time is high.
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Thanks - Chris
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02400_A.pdf
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court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.
court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.

Revision as of 16:45, 29 January 2009

Contents

Fear

IE Integration

Scheming

Attack on Netscape


Netscape on the SDK ..

From ???@??? Fri Apt 28 14:53:01 1995 Return-Path: troy@netscape.com Received: from saturn (fusion.moore.corn [198.93.92.37]) bv neon.netscape.com (950215.SGI.8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA10347; Wed, 26 Apt 1995 15:43:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 15:43:30 -0700 Message-ld: < 1995042.62243.PAA10347@neon.netscape.¢om> X-Sender: troy@pop.moore.corn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

To: rick@netscape.com (Rick Schell), pmarca@netscape.com (Private Marc Andreessen), rick, mikeh, daver, Johm, troy

From: troy@netscape.com (Troy ChevaLier) subject. Re: ping from Microsoft - Intemet Shortcuts X-Mailer: <Windows Eudora Version 2.0.2> X-UIDL: 799105574.001

At 03:33 PM 4/26/95 -0700, Rick Schell wrote:

> Is Tom looking for us to use, or merely to provide feedback?

> rick.

Dunno.

> At 02:56 PM 4/26/95 -0700, Troy ChevaLier wrote: >>>> Hey, just a quick ping to see if you guys have dug into the SDK >>>> materials I sent you a couple weeks ago?

>>>> -Thomas Reardon

>> We did receive some SDK materials from MS. It doesn’t look to me >> like Internet shortcuts are explicitly discussed; rather it is >> a full blown SDK for people developing Intemet aware applications.

>> The goal of the SDK is to isolate the developer from sockets and >> Intemet protocols. As such there are general Intemet APIs, Mime >> APIs, FTP APIs, Gopher APIs, HTTP APIs, and Archie APIs

>> Doesnt seem all that practical to me in the short term given that >> we have already written all the code to dothis stufff (and more >> I’m sure). Also, I would hate to rely on MS for bug fixes and >> implementation of new features (the latest whatever)

>>There may indeed be more there, that is iust what I observed >> by a cursory reading of the hardcopv doc

>>Troy

>>Troy Chevalier >> Netscape Communications Corp. >> 501 I: Middlefield Rd. Mt View, CA 94043 > > troy@netscape.com

> Rick Shell > VP, Engineering > Netscape Communications Corp. > 501 E. Middlefield Road > Mountain View CA 94043

Troy Chevalier Netscape Communications Corp. 501 E Midd.lefield Rd. Mt View, CA 94043 troy@netscape.com

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02284_A.pdf

- court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.


MS to Netscape try our 800 number ..

From: chrisjo chrisjo@microsoft.com Sent: Thursday, August 31,1995 6:08 AM To: jeff@netscape.com; miken@netscape.com; troy@netscape.com Cc: thomasre@ns.netscape.com; chrisjo@ns.netscape.com; drosen@microsoft.com Subject: Follow on from our discussions

As per earlier conversations, here are our deliverables and next steps.

1. RNAPH.DLL


Apologies for the delay in delivering this component. RC 1 of this DLL is available and attached below. We will release final bits next week, we need to run a final test pass and do a final build, and also complete our license agreement. It will be licensed under exactly the same terms as URL.DLL. In particular, please make sure that you follow the instructions for loading the DLL in order to ensure that you run on future versions of Windows 95 and Windows NT.

2. Associations in the Registry


As per our agreement, we will modify our next release of Internet Explorer to prompt the user before overwriting the associations in the registry. Our next beta release will have this feature. Our prompt will be something like: "Do you want to make Internet Explorer the default Web browser"? YesNo, Ask me again next time". Our understanding was that your next beta release would do this as well. When can we expect a release with these changes? We would like to ensure that our actions and yours are coordinated.

3. Netscape Online Store


For some reason, your online store is detecting use of your browser, not browser features. We have a browser that supports SSL, and your site is rejecting it for purchase, with the message. "Because you are not using Netscape Navigator, you do not have adequate security to make a purchase from the Netscape General Store. If you wish to securely encrypt your credit information, you can download Netscape Navigator and continue shopping". Can you explain why we get this message, even though we do have adequate security? We believe that our support of SSL should be recognized by Netscape through your support of our browser by your servers.

4. Developer Support


In terms of industry standards and interoperability, we need to continue to work closely together. However, over the past several months, you've had access to our development team that other ISV's have not. We have gladly given that access to ensure that we foster a broader relationship. We are now ramping up to full spped on new development efforts, and cannot afford to continue this level of support. Fairness dictates that all future technical questions must be routed through standard channels. If these are not sufficient you can also purchase premium support, which will give you a Microsoft contact you can use for all your questions. Please let me know if you are interested in this option and I can provide you with a contact.

Let me know if you have questions or comments, and also help me understand points 2 and 3 above

Thanks - Chris Jones

From: Troy Chevalier (SMTP:troy:netscape.com) Sent Thursday, August 31, 1995 7:59 PM

To: chrisjo@microsoft.com; jeff@netscape.com; mikeh@netscape.com; troy@netscape.com

Cc: chrisjo@ns.netscape.com; drosen@microsoft.com; thomasre@ns.netscape.com Subject: RE: Follow on from our discussions


So perhaps you can define what "standard" channels mean as far as getting developer support?

We would be happy with any support at all in figuring out how to get the GenInstall() and network device installer routines to work for us. There's no sample code on the DDK, there's nothing on the MSDN CDs, and you guys haven't answered a single question we have asked.

Troy

From: chrisjo chrisjo@microsoft.com Sent: Friday, Sepember 01, 1995 10:50 AM To: jeff@netscape.com; miken@netscape.com; troy@netscape.com Cc: thomasre@ns.netscape.com; chrisjo@ns.netscape.com; drosen@microsoft.com Subject: RE: Follow on from our discussions


Troy, as per our phone conversation, you should try (800) 936-3500 and sign up for Premier Developer Support. This is the option most major ISV's have, and will provide you with a dedicated channel you can use to answer all of your questions. I understand you may be having problems getting through, and we are looking into this on our end, but realize that we are also answering Win95 support questions so our load at this time is high.

Thanks - Chris

http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02400_A.pdf --

court documents in the case of Comes v. Microsoft.

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