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This index deals with [[Comes vs Microsoft]] court exhibits which offer a glance at the history of Microsoft abuse. For a concise summary of some of the exhibits, see "[[Petition text - overview]]".
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== NetPC ==
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See [[NetPC]] page.
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== Java ==
== Java ==
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=== Exploring ===
* [[Bill Gates on the JAVA crisis]] (Exhibit PLEX0_6109)
* [[Bill Gates on the JAVA crisis]] (Exhibit PLEX0_6109)
* [[Surf the Java wave]] (Exhibit PX07871)
* [[Surf the Java wave]] (Exhibit PX07871)
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* [[Key platform challenges from Java and NC]] (Exhibit PLEX0_5852)
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* [[IBM Confidential Java Strategy Update]] (Exhibit PX02712)
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* [[Java Redacted]] (Exhibit PX04264)
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=== Harming ===
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* [[We have to avoid pure JAVA applications]] (Exhibit PLEX0_5879)
* [[We have to avoid pure JAVA applications]] (Exhibit PLEX0_5879)
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* [[Key platform challenges from Java and NC]] (Exhibit PLEX0_5852)
 
* [[Ben Slivka: how do we wrest control of Java away from Sun]] (Exhibit plex0_4482)
* [[Ben Slivka: how do we wrest control of Java away from Sun]] (Exhibit plex0_4482)
* [[A good tactic to tie java developers to windows]] (Exhibit PX09104)
* [[A good tactic to tie java developers to windows]] (Exhibit PX09104)
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* [[Bill Gates: I am hardcore on not supporting Suns Java]] (Exhibit plex0_2727 and plex0_2710)
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* [[Jim Allchin: piss on Java]] (Exhibit PX02412)
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* [[Microsoft terminates Sun's Java license]] (Exhibit PX02782)
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== billg on how to cause a Java schism ..==
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* [[Microsoft on fighting the Java infestation]] (Exhibit PX02916)
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* [http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/19/microsoft-about-killing-sun-java/ Microsoft Product Manager: “Screw Sun, cross-platform will never work. Let’s move on and steal the Java language.”]
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From: Bill Gates
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* [[The Microsoft Java Language Council]] (Exhibit PX04258)
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 1997 3:38 AM
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To: Paul Maritz
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Cc: Arron Contorer; Natham Myhrvold; John Lufwig; Paul Gross; Ben Slivka
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Subject: Java schism
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A point that is important to me is to have PURE JAVA applications that do a lot HAVE to ship a full runtime instead of being able to count on the run time being shipped with the operating system. This will make more complex in some ways that a Windows application that uses our native APIs. It will make the installation and version management harder.
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Since we do want to run JAVA applets in the browser we have to provide some JAVA support there. It may be that some of the JAVA runtime should ONLY be available through the browser - like AWT versus our equivalent. I think restricting things to the browser is an important idea that should be explored.
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0_2727.pdf
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== billg: an ISV that writes to COR is just fucked .. ==
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From: John Ludwig
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Sent: Thurdsay, August 21, 1997 9:03 AM
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To: Don Bradford
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Subject: conversations with billg last nite
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=== Bill Gates' Personal Role ===
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I was at the exec staff meeting last nite and there were 3 interesting exchanges with bill and the whole group about apple
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* [[Bill Gates: I am hardcore on not supporting Suns Java]] (Exhibits plex0_2727 and plex0_2710)
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* [[Bill Gates on how to cause a Java schism]] (Exhibit PLEX0_2727)
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* [[Bill Gates: An ISV that writes to COR is just f*cked]] (Exhibit PLEX0_2759)
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1. bill's toop priority is for us to get the browser in october os release from apple. we should do whatever it takes to make this happen. if we get shut out, we should escalate to bill. you should make sure that we are engaging deeply with apple on this one and resolving any and all issues.
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=== Articles ===
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2. on the java work bill says the ball is in our court to come up with a win/win solution. he suspects that we should be cooperating only at the lowest level - native code interfaces, jits, etcx, not at the class lib level. bill was clear that his whole goal here is to keep apple and sun split. he doesn't care that much about being aligned with apple. he just wants tham split from other potential allies.
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* [http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/06/business/technology-judge-likens-microsoft-s-effect-on-java-to-a-bang-on-the-knee.html Judge Likens Microsoft's Effect on Java to a Bang on the Knee]
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* [http://news.cnet.com/Jinxed-by-Java/2009-1001_3-218429.html Jinxed by Java]
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3. on xplatform class libs, we had an interesting and at times entertaining discussion. bill first asserted that we should be taking the entire COR infrastructure to all platforms. bobmu and i educated him about the expense of doing so - bobmu was pretty clear that there is no plan to take COR anywhere but windows. bill was initially shocked at this - he even said "so an isv that writes to COR is just fucked" this had us all roling on the floor at the irony here - bobmu said "we prefer to say taking full advantage of our platform bill" bill realized what he had said and agreed that most of COR should not be ported everywhere. ther was no clear conclusion to this discussion but overall i think ther was a sense that most of the work would be windows-centric and that we would not be working in general to take it all xplatform. the exception might be some limited dcom pieces for large vertical isvs who need unix solutions too.
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=== Posts of Interest ===
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http://edge-op.org/iowa/www.iowaconsumercase.org/122106/PLEX0_2759.pdf
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* [http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/21/nathan-myhrvold-antitrust-memo/ Microsoft’s Nathan Myhrvold on How “to Freeze the Market at the OEM and ISV Level”]
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* [http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/25/ms-definition-of-embrace-and-extend/ Microsoft on “Embrace and Extend”, the “Windows API Franchise”]
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* [http://boycottnovell.com/2009/06/26/eee-versus-cross-platform/ Nathan Myhrvold/Bill Gates Use “Embrace and Extend” Against “Making it Easy for People to Do Competitive Operating Systems”]
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* [http://boycottnovell.com/2009/08/26/joachim-kempin-lunix-full-text/ Bill Gates Called “LUNIX” a Threat Back in 1997] (also covers Java)

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