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MinceR | oh, i think my test failed because robots.txt excluded everything | Sep 24 00:00 |
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MinceR | well, time for sleep anyway; gn | Sep 24 00:00 |
wallclimber | gn! | Sep 24 00:01 |
_Hicham_ | gn MinceR | Sep 24 00:01 |
schestowitz | http://www.mt-soft.com.ar/2009/09/21/microsoft-monsanto-and-intellectual-monopolies/ | Sep 24 00:02 |
phIRCe | Title: MT-Soft - Web Development and E-business Tools and News .::. Size~: 97.38 KB | Sep 24 00:02 |
schestowitz | gn, MinceR | Sep 24 00:02 |
schestowitz | http://mincer.com | Sep 24 00:02 |
phIRCe | Title: mincer.com: The Leading Mincer Site on the Net .::. Size~: 0.41 KB | Sep 24 00:03 |
schestowitz | LOL | Sep 24 00:03 |
wallclimber | well, i'm off to forage for food...surely there's something edible around here...see ya tomorrow. | Sep 24 00:03 |
cubezzz | "Digital Rights Subtraction System" | Sep 24 00:03 |
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schestowitz | wallclimber: if you need something edible, get a mincer | Sep 24 00:03 |
schestowitz | Oh, she's off | Sep 24 00:03 |
MinceR | not a she | Sep 24 00:04 |
_Hicham_ | MinceR is not off | Sep 24 00:05 |
_Hicham_ | he is always on | Sep 24 00:05 |
trmanco | heh | Sep 24 00:06 |
trmanco | I wonder what kind of test MinceR was trying to do | Sep 24 00:06 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: not you, wallclimber | Sep 24 00:09 |
schestowitz | I can't stand Orlowski ... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/23/lily_allen_vs_freetards/ | Sep 24 00:12 |
phIRCe | Title: Lily Allen lobs blog at Wrinkly Rockers • The Register .::. Size~: 22.88 KB | Sep 24 00:12 |
ldp | FUCKING WHAT | Sep 24 00:12 |
ldp | Err. | Sep 24 00:12 |
ldp | Wrong channel. | Sep 24 00:12 |
trmanco | it didn't trigger the bot | Sep 24 00:13 |
trmanco | heh | Sep 24 00:13 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/23/lily_allen_vs_freetards/ | Sep 24 00:14 |
phIRCe | Title: Lily Allen lobs blog at Wrinkly Rockers • The Register .::. Size~: 22.88 KB | Sep 24 00:14 |
BNc | [trmanco] ♻ @phoronix: GNOME 2.28 Released; GNOME 3.0 Is Up Next http://ff.im/-8C3ra | Sep 24 00:14 |
phIRCe | Title: [Phoronix] GNOME 2.28 Released; GNOME 3.0 Is Up Next .::. Size~: 16.26 KB | Sep 24 00:15 |
schestowitz | trmanco: no obscenity filter? | Sep 24 00:15 |
trmanco | it does | Sep 24 00:15 |
trmanco | but fucking isn't included | Sep 24 00:15 |
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trmanco | meh | Sep 24 00:15 |
trmanco | charset thing :| | Sep 24 00:15 |
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trmanco | *ion | Sep 24 00:16 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/23/demon_password_giveaway/ | Sep 24 00:16 |
phIRCe | Title: Demon splurges details of 3,600 customers in billing email • The Register .::. Size~: 23.25 KB | Sep 24 00:16 |
oiaohm | Hmm is phIRCe stupid enough to kick self for bad language. | Sep 24 00:16 |
trmanco | yes | Sep 24 00:16 |
trmanco | it's not stupid | Sep 24 00:16 |
schestowitz | Primitive AI | Sep 24 00:16 |
schestowitz | It'll grow smarter | Sep 24 00:17 |
trmanco | it's just not programed to not kick himself | Sep 24 00:17 |
schestowitz | http://www.robotcub.org/ | Sep 24 00:17 |
phIRCe | Title: RobotCub - An Open Framework for Research in Embodied Cognition .::. Size~: 19.95 KB | Sep 24 00:17 |
trmanco | !op trmanco | Sep 24 00:17 |
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oiaohm | I was thinking post a link with forbin word in here and see what happens phIRCe | Sep 24 00:17 |
trmanco | !kick phIRCe | Sep 24 00:17 |
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phIRCe | How dare you kick me! | Sep 24 00:17 |
trmanco | oiaohm: go ahead | Sep 24 00:17 |
trmanco | it will kick himself | Sep 24 00:17 |
trmanco | or maybe no... | Sep 24 00:17 |
trmanco | who knows | Sep 24 00:17 |
trmanco | Demo -> http://is.gd/3BW5K | Sep 24 00:18 |
phIRCe | Title: Fuck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 131.87 KB | Sep 24 00:18 |
trmanco | :| | Sep 24 00:18 |
trmanco | ah | Sep 24 00:18 |
trmanco | wait | Sep 24 00:18 |
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trmanco | Demo -> http://is.gd/3BW5K | Sep 24 00:18 |
phIRCe | Title: Fuck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 131.87 KB | Sep 24 00:18 |
trmanco | :| | Sep 24 00:19 |
schestowitz | That's a good thing | Sep 24 00:19 |
trmanco | maybe it's time to go to bed | Sep 24 00:19 |
oiaohm | http://www.fourletterfilm.com/ hi | Sep 24 00:19 |
phIRCe | Title: FUCK :: Four Letter Film .::. Size~: 3.08 KB | Sep 24 00:19 |
oiaohm | Hmm size is wrong badly. | Sep 24 00:19 |
trmanco | charset maybe | Sep 24 00:19 |
oiaohm | Missed the flv completely. | Sep 24 00:19 |
schestowitz | flv is external | Sep 24 00:19 |
trmanco | nah wikipedia is in utf-8 | Sep 24 00:19 |
trmanco | it's not a spider | Sep 24 00:20 |
trmanco | the size is the same as viewed in lynx | Sep 24 00:20 |
trmanco | :-P | Sep 24 00:20 |
phIRCe | deop trmanco !ban trmanco !ban trmanco 1 !unban trmanco 1 !say demo fuck fag | Sep 24 00:20 |
trmanco | w000t | Sep 24 00:21 |
oiaohm | I just though I would cover that event so you can still curse here just have to use URLs to cover it. | Sep 24 00:21 |
phIRCe | test | Sep 24 00:22 |
trmanco | this bot goes crazy sometimes | Sep 24 00:22 |
oiaohm | Define crazy. | Sep 24 00:22 |
oiaohm | Not like the winehq bot when it in. | Sep 24 00:22 |
oiaohm | Where it kicks everyone including it self out of channel. | Sep 24 00:23 |
trmanco | intelligence of it's own through a bug | Sep 24 00:23 |
phIRCe | fuck | Sep 24 00:23 |
trmanco | it won't kick himself | Sep 24 00:23 |
trmanco | itself* | Sep 24 00:23 |
oiaohm | I forgot to tell you what the bot did in winehq., CLosed the channel. | Sep 24 00:24 |
trmanco | heh | Sep 24 00:24 |
oiaohm | Not exactly kicked. Only users above particular level allowed in. | Sep 24 00:24 |
trmanco | this one won't set modes, unless it goes crazy | Sep 24 00:25 |
oiaohm | Basically we hope it never does. | Sep 24 00:25 |
trmanco | heh | Sep 24 00:25 |
trmanco | it won't kick itself because it doesn't have enough parameters | Sep 24 00:26 |
schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/infringingfiltering/ | Sep 24 00:27 |
phIRCe | Title: Lawsuit: Copyright Filtering Technology Infringes | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 72.55 KB | Sep 24 00:27 |
schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090921/1200086272.shtml | Sep 24 00:29 |
phIRCe | Title: If File Sharing Is Killing The UK Music Industry... Why Is The UK Music Industry Growing? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 65.87 KB | Sep 24 00:29 |
schestowitz | "The US military will deploy an "optionally manned" 250-foot surveillance airship to Afghanistan by the middle of 2011, according to reports. The dirigible spy-ship will be able to lurk high above Afghan battlefields for up to three weeks at a time, relaying information to ground commanders." http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/22/lemv_contract_by_december/ | Sep 24 00:30 |
phIRCe | Title: US to deploy 'optionally manned' hover-dirigible in 2011 • The Register .::. Size~: 24.95 KB | Sep 24 00:30 |
schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10356295-54.html | Sep 24 00:31 |
phIRCe | Title: Students build solar home that's no gimmick | Green Tech - CNET News .::. Size~: 127.1 KB | Sep 24 00:31 |
trmanco | I fixed this bug | Sep 24 00:31 |
trmanco | !quit phIRCe | Sep 24 00:31 |
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trmanco | Demo -> http://is.gd/3BW5K | Sep 24 00:31 |
phIRCe | Title: Fuck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 131.87 KB | Sep 24 00:32 |
trmanco | meh | Sep 24 00:32 |
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phIRCe | fuck | Sep 24 00:32 |
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trmanco | LOL | Sep 24 00:32 |
trmanco | ok | Sep 24 00:32 |
trmanco | -1 bug | Sep 24 00:33 |
schestowitz | http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/boiling-point-this-rant-rated-r-again-robfr.php | Sep 24 00:33 |
trmanco | another one blocking bots | Sep 24 00:33 |
trmanco | !op trmanco | Sep 24 00:33 |
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schestowitz | load average: 14.05, 5.83, 3.00 | Sep 24 00:34 |
schestowitz | Something's up | Sep 24 00:34 |
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_goblin | right, Im off....just time to give "grubby" one last chance to give a comment..... | Sep 24 00:41 |
_goblin | gn | Sep 24 00:41 |
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schestowitz | Only 5% of web users would pay for online news, reports survey http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2009/sep/21/paid-content-newspapers-online-news | Sep 24 00:44 |
schestowitz | http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090920/2219136252.shtml | Sep 24 00:46 |
phIRCe | Title: Heirs Of Comic Book Artist Alert Everyone They Want Their Copyrights Back | Techdirt .::. Size~: 76.25 KB | Sep 24 00:46 |
cubezzz | people will pay for stuff like the Wall Street Journal | Sep 24 00:46 |
cubezzz | anything that helps them make money essentially | Sep 24 00:47 |
schestowitz | http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/Picasa_Photo_App_Gets_Better_at_Recognizing_Faces__Locations | Sep 24 00:47 |
phIRCe | Title: Picasa Photo App Gets Better at Recognizing Faces Locations - Webmonkey .::. Size~: 114.75 KB | Sep 24 00:47 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: that's what Rupert says | Sep 24 00:47 |
schestowitz | he's thinking wishfully | Sep 24 00:47 |
schestowitz | People can get financial news elsewhere | Sep 24 00:48 |
trmanco | http://dotbloat.blogspot.com/2009/03/source-code-doesnt-lie-4-ui-framework.html | Sep 24 00:48 |
schestowitz | Google has good aggregation, including ones that cite and summarise WSJ reports | Sep 24 00:48 |
phIRCe | Title: DEVELOPERS HELD HOSTAGE: THE VISUAL STUDIO CRISIS: Source Code Doesn't Lie #4: UI Framework Layer .::. Size~: 75.94 KB | Sep 24 00:48 |
schestowitz | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/publishingcrime/ | Sep 24 00:48 |
trmanco | LOL | Sep 24 00:48 |
phIRCe | Title: Law Shielding Cops Faces Court Challenge | Threat Level | Wired.com .::. Size~: 88.53 KB | Sep 24 00:48 |
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schestowitz | trmanco:March | Sep 24 00:49 |
trmanco | yeah | Sep 24 00:49 |
trmanco | [H]omer: posted it in cola | Sep 24 00:49 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: |With journalists being laid off in droves, ideologues have stepped forward to provide the “reporting” that feeds the 24-hour news cycle. The collapse of journalism means that the quest for information has been superseded by the quest for ammunition. A case-study of our post-journalistic age." http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200910/media | Sep 24 00:51 |
trmanco | hmmmm | Sep 24 00:53 |
cubezzz | well newspapers are collapsing for sure | Sep 24 00:53 |
cubezzz | I wouldn't say there's a collapse of journalism itself | Sep 24 00:54 |
schestowitz | Exactly | Sep 24 00:56 |
schestowitz | That's the point | Sep 24 00:56 |
schestowitz | The newspapers pretend that without them there would be no investigation | Sep 24 00:56 |
schestowitz | And our side says it's utter BS because people fill the void and get the scoops in the same way | Sep 24 00:56 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, I was really talking about newspapers -> web | Sep 24 00:57 |
schestowitz | OBAMAA sort of took 'their' side | Sep 24 00:57 |
schestowitz | Claiming that blogs is just people "shuoting at each other" | Sep 24 00:57 |
schestowitz | *shouting | Sep 24 00:57 |
cubezzz | not people buying newspapers but registering for web content | Sep 24 00:57 |
schestowitz | I'm growing tired of his cronies regime.... he works for the corporations there | Sep 24 00:57 |
cubezzz | and yes, a lot of people probably wouldn't pay for it | Sep 24 00:57 |
schestowitz | Because it's abundant | Sep 24 00:58 |
schestowitz | Not specialised | Sep 24 00:58 |
cubezzz | ok, I don't know if you've seen it but... I have a blog :) | Sep 24 00:58 |
schestowitz | Check out the update here: | Sep 24 00:58 |
schestowitz | http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4051 | Sep 24 00:58 |
phIRCe | Title: All about Microsoft mobile edition .::. Size~: 8.58 KB | Sep 24 00:58 |
schestowitz | Microsoft admits that Silver Lie can run on Linux | Sep 24 00:58 |
schestowitz | Lies all along | Sep 24 00:58 |
cubezzz | WinCE makes one wince :) | Sep 24 00:59 |
trmanco | !quit phIRCe | Sep 24 00:59 |
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trmanco | gn everyone | Sep 24 00:59 |
cubezzz | later | Sep 24 00:59 |
schestowitz | gn | Sep 24 00:59 |
cubezzz | my blog never gets any responses, I'm too bland | Sep 24 00:59 |
cubezzz | oh, I think I know what you guys mean by Cola | Sep 24 01:00 |
cubezzz | comp.os.linux.advocacy ? | Sep 24 01:00 |
cubezzz | it's like in the "old days" when Amiga people insulted Atari people and vice versa | Sep 24 01:01 |
cubezzz | I got an interesting quote from a recent vista user: | Sep 24 01:04 |
cubezzz | "My first four computers were Amiga 1000, 2500, 3000 and 4000 machines and were much faster, more fun to use, and more reliable than what I now use." | Sep 24 01:04 |
cubezzz | I can remember anti-Linux comments from old school Unix guys | Sep 24 01:06 |
schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/353921/ | Sep 24 01:06 |
cubezzz | or not anti-linux necessarily but a lack of interest | Sep 24 01:06 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, that's COLA | Sep 24 01:06 |
schestowitz | UNIX runs on iphone now | Sep 24 01:07 |
schestowitz | But Linux is big on it too | Sep 24 01:07 |
cubezzz | now at least with old school Unix users, I could understand their point of view (to some degree) | Sep 24 01:07 |
oiaohm | Amigas where first to use equal to GPU assistance. | Sep 24 01:07 |
schestowitz | Symbian the biggest | Sep 24 01:07 |
oiaohm | And Amigas also had 24 bit color. | Sep 24 01:07 |
cubezzz | Amiga was special wasn't it :) | Sep 24 01:07 |
schestowitz | I didn't have one | Sep 24 01:08 |
cubezzz | what OS does Iphone use? | Sep 24 01:08 |
schestowitz | Predates my childhood | Sep 24 01:08 |
cubezzz | .... | Sep 24 01:08 |
schestowitz | IIRC, a mix that includes Mach | Sep 24 01:08 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, come on, Amiga isn't that old :) | Sep 24 01:08 |
cubezzz | Europeans used it | Sep 24 01:09 |
cubezzz | yes folks, the world wasn't always wintel | Sep 24 01:10 |
schestowitz | dostel | Sep 24 01:10 |
cubezzz | we had 6809's, uh, 6502's | Sep 24 01:11 |
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cubezzz | but before dostel there was cp/m and a whole load of competitors | Sep 24 01:12 |
oiaohm | Amiga is still going kind of. | Sep 24 01:13 |
cubezzz | oiaohm, yes there's http://softhut.com | Sep 24 01:14 |
cubezzz | but I stopped a while ago | Sep 24 01:14 |
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oiaohm | http://aros.sourceforge.net/ << Kinda of cubezzz | Sep 24 01:15 |
cubezzz | oiaohm, yeah but getting parts for your old 1200 or 4000 is getting harder | Sep 24 01:17 |
cubezzz | does Aros run on any pc? | Sep 24 01:17 |
oiaohm | Aros is a real strange kind of. | Sep 24 01:17 |
oiaohm | Aros can run on top of a Linux kernel so can run everywhere. | Sep 24 01:17 |
cubezzz | like Wine then | Sep 24 01:18 |
oiaohm | And it has its own kernel as well that is a bit hardware picky. | Sep 24 01:18 |
oiaohm | Again kind of cubezzz | Sep 24 01:18 |
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schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-09-23-016-35-OP-CY-DT-0002 | Sep 24 01:22 |
cubezzz | IBM did advertise Linux big-time | Sep 24 01:23 |
cubezzz | haven't seen them do it lately though | Sep 24 01:24 |
schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-09-23-018-35-NW-LL-0000 "No sorry its not "stealing" please cut the crap. " | Sep 24 01:26 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: depends. | Sep 24 01:26 |
schestowitz | Not much for the deskto | Sep 24 01:26 |
schestowitz | It's the anti-Linux Wolfe | Sep 24 01:27 |
schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2009/09/microsoft_drm_p.html;jsessionid=05F511PMDGJU1QE1GHPSKHWATMY32JVN Microsoft DRM Patent Could Revive Peer-to-Peer Music Nets | Sep 24 01:27 |
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schestowitz | Inaccurate: http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/blog/globespotting/archives/2009/09/ibm_and_microso.html | Sep 24 01:40 |
schestowitz | They compete not cooperate | Sep 24 01:40 |
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cubezzz | one prob with usb is the scanner hogs the bus | Sep 24 02:53 |
cubezzz | I don't think there's any way to allocate bandwidth... at least I can't think of a way | Sep 24 02:53 |
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Will | anyone know what to make of this? :http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=4051 | Sep 24 03:51 |
Will | And where does this put the "M&M" duo? | Sep 24 03:52 |
The more I use applications written in .NET, the more I think .NET is a typical M$ turd. Avoid at all costs. Silverlight and Mono are second order disasters, dependent on the first larger one. | Sep 24 04:05 | |
GNU/Linux should want nothing to do with any of it. The originals are bad news. | Sep 24 04:05 | |
Silverlight, thankfully, is gaining zero traction. | Sep 24 04:06 | |
Will | twitter: but it is beginning to gain an impressive list of operations that have dumped it. | Sep 24 04:15 |
Will | NBC, NY Times, for starters | Sep 24 04:17 |
I wonder why MJF writes about it at all. | Sep 24 04:17 | |
Will | I wonder what's up with Silverlight and Moblin. | Sep 24 04:18 |
"I wish I had this turd that no one publishes anything with." she whines. "Oh Wow, I might get it with MONO" I wonder if she's ever used any of that crap. | Sep 24 04:18 | |
She's been spun heavily and treated to a piping hot story about bovine excrement. | Sep 24 04:19 | |
Do you actually want a cell phone with Silverlight? I don't. | Sep 24 04:19 | |
Will | twitter: Silverlight? Just hearing "Windows Moble" puts it instantly on my "avoid like the black plague" list. | Sep 24 04:20 |
Silverlight on mobilin should also send you running for the hills. | Sep 24 04:20 | |
Will | it confuses me. Greatly | Sep 24 04:21 |
Will | Doesn't this just confirm that Mono and Moonlight are useless? | Sep 24 04:21 |
It's not hard. Non free software sucks. US cell phones are a nexus of non free software and the old Bell telephone monopoly, you can count on it to suck very hard. | Sep 24 04:21 | |
Will | I thought we were talking about Moblin? | Sep 24 04:22 |
What it confirms to me is that M$ is trying to push their crap anywhere they can and failing. | Sep 24 04:22 | |
Moblin is for cell phones, isn't it? That was MJF's whole point, that Moblin might beat out everyone else to offering Silverlight on cell phones - pointless indeed. | Sep 24 04:23 | |
PDAs have been doing the media thing for what? A decade? | Sep 24 04:23 | |
Will | right. I had forgotten that Moblin was also for phones for a sec. I was thinking netbooks. | Sep 24 04:24 |
Will | Sometimes I think MS just spent so much time and energy building walls to keep the competition out that they finally got to a point where they had completely walled themselves in and trapped themselves | Sep 24 04:26 |
tomboy? WTF are that and mono doing in debian testing? Must nuke that crap from my netbook | Sep 24 04:26 | |
Every sabotage and booby trap M$ set M$ back in two ways. First, they did not spend the effort making their own software better. Second, the traps made their own software that much more complex, error prone and less reliable. | Sep 24 04:27 | |
They were a fraud all along. Stealing instead of making. Owning instead of servicing. I'm glad they are going away. | Sep 24 04:28 | |
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Will | They also have a nasty habit of dragging their feet years if not decades about supporting any new technology or format that they don't control. They rely on their overwhelming marketshare and the network effect to make this work. | Sep 24 04:30 |
Will | When that marketshare starts slipping, behavior like that is probably going to bit them hard. You can already see it beginning in the browser area. | Sep 24 04:31 |
Will | IE is a lost cause. | Sep 24 04:31 |
Will | So Firefox is getting the ribbon too now? Maybe it's only for the Windows version:http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/351808/firefox-tidies-up-with-office-2007s-ribbon | Sep 24 04:51 |
Will | btw, speaking of browsers, safari's not that great, imo. Not bad, just not great either. | Sep 24 04:51 |
cubezzz | anyone recall where the file command is from? Trying to do a port... | Sep 24 04:52 |
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cubezzz | the could have at least put man pages in embedix | Sep 24 05:30 |
cubezzz | they | Sep 24 05:30 |
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BNc | [tracyrreed] Tonight flew as safety pilot over the ocean in the dark with an IFR student. Death spiral! Wheeeee... | Sep 24 06:59 |
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tuxmania | Hi there :D | Sep 24 07:25 |
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schestowitz | Hey | Sep 24 07:34 |
schestowitz | http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/09/23/calling-lance-davis-give-us-our-domains-back/ | Sep 24 07:48 |
schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8567 | Sep 24 07:49 |
schestowitz | "Tired of the government bailing out banks? Get ready for this: officials may soon ask banks to bail out the government." http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/22/business/22bailout.html?_r=1 | Sep 24 07:50 |
tuxmania | I want to get bailed out, preferably on a remote island with clothing shortage | Sep 24 07:52 |
schestowitz | http://www.monkeybusinessblog.com/goldman_superheroes/2008/09/superheroes-res.html | Sep 24 07:59 |
Diablo-D3 | .... | Sep 24 08:04 |
*Diablo-D3 double facepalms | Sep 24 08:04 | |
schestowitz | Nice picture: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/09/google-brings-chromes-renderer-to-ie-with-browser-plugin.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss | Sep 24 08:05 |
BNc | [davidgerard] Of course, this only works if the rest of the world is running Windows http://is.gd/3CFZG | Sep 24 08:06 |
schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/09/23/schmidt-forecasts-monthly-acquisitions Schmidt Forecasts Monthly Acquisitions http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSTRE58L6JA20090923 | Sep 24 08:07 |
schestowitz | FLOSS Weekly 13: Eben Moglen on GPL 3.0 < http://www.twit.tv/floss13 > | Sep 24 08:18 |
schestowitz | Red Hat second-quarter profit increases 37% http://www.marketwatch.com/story/red-hat-second-quarter-profit-increases-37-2009-09-23 | Sep 24 08:21 |
schestowitz | brb | Sep 24 08:21 |
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BNc | [davidgerard] EMI tries to put the Lily Allen genie back into the bottle http://is.gd/3CJJH please forward | Sep 24 08:48 |
BNc | [davidgerard] EMI tries to put the @lilyroseallen genie back into the bottle with legal threats http://is.gd/3CJJH please forward less than 5 seconds ago | Sep 24 08:49 |
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tuxmania | I hate it when corps fake grassroots | Sep 24 09:04 |
tuxmania | Right now its almost unbarable with the w7 hype and all the astroturfers | Sep 24 09:04 |
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schestowitz | tuxmania: yes, there's that too | Sep 24 09:08 |
schestowitz | In BN I've begun including links to political AstroTurf in Daily Links | Sep 24 09:08 |
schestowitz | It's something that I wish I had time to write about in length. Very important threat to democracy.... | Sep 24 09:08 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #HP Launches #Linux Portal http://bit.ly/16EmpG | Sep 24 09:11 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Gets Games #Repository with #DJL http://bit.ly/2sRRj | Sep 24 09:13 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #GNOME 2.28 is Released http://bit.ly/FELb3 | Sep 24 09:14 |
BNc | [schestowitz] Latest #ArchLinux in Review http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=960 | Sep 24 09:15 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Red Hat Profit Skyrockets 37% #truthhappens http://bit.ly/PTZek http://bit.ly/18zjSl http://bit.ly/SJ0ZY http://cn.reuters.com/article/ ... | Sep 24 09:19 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #RedHat Focuses on Servers That Run Web, Applications http://bit.ly/1QLYl2 | Sep 24 09:21 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Karmic#Koala ( #GNU #Linux ) Will Eat #Vista7 for Breakfast http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Software/9674.html | Sep 24 09:22 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Apple 's Attack on #Linux #Phones Carries on Causing Trouble http://bit.ly/4v6trK | Sep 24 09:24 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Can Save #India Over $2,000,000,000 Per Year - #OSI http://opensource.org/node/467 | Sep 24 09:31 |
BNc | [schestowitz] Sluggish Computer a Good Candidate for #GNU #Linux Installation http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/09/20/business/doc4ab681c9832aa0858 ... | Sep 24 09:32 |
tuxmania | Roy, i must say i admire your work with this site. | Sep 24 09:33 |
BNc | [schestowitz] Dr. Evil #RichardBerman Caught #AstroTurfing Again (for People's Death) http://bit.ly/12aZ3x http://bit.ly/18Mk8D | Sep 24 09:33 |
amarsh04 | former .au prime minister comments on .au (and .us) banks: http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2009/s2694701.htm | Sep 24 09:34 |
tuxmania | Ive been following the PC and Microsoft since CP/M and there arent many who knows just how bad things are in computing | Sep 24 09:34 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #GlobalWarming Denial #AstroTurf Suffers Setback http://www.prwatch.org/node/8571 http://www.prwatch.org/node/8572 | Sep 24 09:37 |
amarsh04 | I liked this statement and hope to get it validated in .au: "It's a commonly held belief that only the copyright holder of a work can enforce the license's terms - but that's not true in France. People who received software under the GNU GPL can also request compliance, since the license grants them rights from the authors." | Sep 24 09:38 |
amarsh04 | http://fsffrance.org/news/article2009-09-22.en.html | Sep 24 09:38 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #NetNeutrality Under Attack in #Europe and Under Attack from #Republicans http://bit.ly/1m6F3s http://bit.ly/101Hc7 | Sep 24 09:38 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Freedom of (Anonymous) Speech Suppressed in the Republic of... Texas??? http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/ ... | Sep 24 09:40 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Netflix and #Demon Give Customers' Personal Details Away http://bit.ly/D9cfI http://bit.ly/jaOIG | Sep 24 09:41 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: yes, I mentioned it last night | Sep 24 09:42 |
schestowitz | tuxmania: thanks a lot | Sep 24 09:42 |
BNc | [schestowitz] The French #MAFIAA Wants People Kicked Off the Web for Someone Else's Browsing Habits http://bit.ly/TXHej | Sep 24 09:47 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolies Shamed: #MAFIAA Boss Shows How to 'Steal' Files http://techdirt.com/articles/20090922/1709526287.shtml | Sep 24 09:48 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Microsoft #Patents Method for Attacking Computer Users While Ignoring Patents http://bit.ly/vyULV http://bit.ly/ZnjdL | Sep 24 09:50 |
schestowitz | Microsoft likes software patents, unless these are used against Microsoft in which case Microsoft happily breaks the law it lobbied for. | Sep 24 09:51 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Apple and #eBay Sued for Using #Encryption (Blame #SoftwarePatents ) http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/145759 | Sep 24 09:52 |
MinceR | the channel was a lot more readable when twits were notices | Sep 24 09:53 |
MinceR | (tweets?) | Sep 24 09:53 |
schestowitz | MinceR: yes, that's what I thought | Sep 24 09:53 |
MinceR | plus annoybot doesn't even list url titles even now | Sep 24 09:53 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #IBM Pressured to Bring #GNU #Linux to Desktops in the West http://bit.ly/3SZRxS http://bit.ly/18vPV0 | Sep 24 09:58 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Microsoft Betrays #Moonlight (and Shows It Lies All Along About a Port) http://bit.ly/tC5rR | Sep 24 09:59 |
tuxmania | Moonlight is all about getting mono into Linux | Sep 24 10:00 |
schestowitz | MinceR: that bot is not here | Sep 24 10:01 |
schestowitz | tuxmania: of course | Sep 24 10:01 |
schestowitz | "Install Mono to view site' | Sep 24 10:01 |
schestowitz | I argued this in 2007 | Sep 24 10:01 |
schestowitz | Even KDE/xfce users are affected by the Mono disease this way | Sep 24 10:01 |
tuxmania | i hope gnome gets its act together now that de iqaza has shown his true colors | Sep 24 10:02 |
schestowitz | I think some people there still like him | Sep 24 10:03 |
schestowitz | I hope they also listen to the FSF | Sep 24 10:03 |
tuxmania | the people in gnome that likes de iqaza might be Novell employes for all i know | Sep 24 10:03 |
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BNc | [anivar] RT @FFII 24 September is software patent freedom day! | Sep 24 10:17 |
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amarsh04 | thanks schestowitz, I've quoted that article from FSF France | Sep 24 10:27 |
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trmanco | schestowitz: put back notices if you want on bnc, I'll see what I can do with mine | Sep 24 11:10 |
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BNc | [schestowitz] If Vista 7 is Wonderful Like Microsoft Claims, Then Why is Vista 8 Vapourware Already Surfacing? http://bit.ly/ZRDJ0 | Sep 24 11:24 |
schestowitz | New page: http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Vista_8_Reality_Log | Sep 24 11:28 |
BNc | [omar_s_hafez] I just added the twitter app on FB. | Sep 24 11:31 |
trmanco | * 1.15 February 9th, 2010: Release KDE 4.4 | Sep 24 11:53 |
trmanco | haha | Sep 24 11:54 |
trmanco | what a great day to release kde 4.4 :D | Sep 24 11:54 |
trmanco | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule | Sep 24 11:56 |
trmanco | 1st of October kde 4.3 gets it's second update | Sep 24 11:56 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #Pentagon Recognises the Threat of #Windows Botnets http://bit.ly/KHQe3 | Sep 24 12:02 |
tuxmania | gawd i hate astroturfers | Sep 24 12:18 |
tuxmania | idg.se, a swedish news site for it people is swampet by them | Sep 24 12:18 |
schestowitz | I was just writing about it | Sep 24 12:19 |
schestowitz | Not IDG | Sep 24 12:19 |
schestowitz | But ZDNet | Sep 24 12:19 |
tuxmania | Had a surrelalistic moment now when a MS apologist started defending icaza | Sep 24 12:19 |
schestowitz | They got caught with their pants down, again | Sep 24 12:19 |
tuxmania | heh | Sep 24 12:19 |
schestowitz | They had a shill post an article | Sep 24 12:19 |
schestowitz | And got exposed | Sep 24 12:19 |
schestowitz | tuxmania: yes, it's about de Icaza | Sep 24 12:20 |
schestowitz | Microsoft's employee #3 | Sep 24 12:20 |
tuxmania | linky? | Sep 24 12:20 |
schestowitz | Wait.... | Sep 24 12:20 |
schestowitz | Give me 5 minutes. | Sep 24 12:20 |
tuxmania | oki, thanks | Sep 24 12:20 |
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BNc | [schestowitz] #ZDNet Embeds Placements for Anti-Free Software Companies http://bit.ly/KfDTm | Sep 24 12:31 |
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niny | hi | Sep 24 12:43 |
niny | i need to buy one laptop , so which one is better for GNU/Linux ? | Sep 24 12:43 |
DaemonFC | niny, System76 is a good choice | Sep 24 12:43 |
niny | can you send me the link ? | Sep 24 12:44 |
DaemonFC | don't own one myself, but I've used one and have only heard good things | Sep 24 12:44 |
DaemonFC | http://www.system76.com/ | Sep 24 12:44 |
DaemonFC | I may get a new system or upgrade this one pretty soon | Sep 24 12:45 |
DaemonFC | now that quad core CPUs are pretty affordable | Sep 24 12:45 |
DaemonFC | Intel is cutting the prices on their LGA 775 Core 2 Quad CPUs | Sep 24 12:46 |
DaemonFC | so that's socket compatible with the same motherboard I already have | Sep 24 12:46 |
DaemonFC | right now I have a Core 2 Duo | Sep 24 12:46 |
niny | ok | Sep 24 12:47 |
DaemonFC | Core 2 Duo still runs any OS out there just fine though | Sep 24 12:47 |
DaemonFC | probably still overkill for most people | Sep 24 12:47 |
DaemonFC | most operating systems are getting to the point where RAM and GPU are much more important than CPU | Sep 24 12:49 |
MinceR | and a few OSes aren't so bloated as to make such high demands | Sep 24 12:50 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, I mean they offload the GUI onto the GPU | Sep 24 12:51 |
DaemonFC | KDE is doing that now too | Sep 24 12:51 |
DaemonFC | it's the best way to do things | Sep 24 12:51 |
MinceR | it's the best way to do things where the GPU is capable enough | Sep 24 12:51 |
DaemonFC | it beats leaving the GPU there to burn electricity and do nothing | Sep 24 12:51 |
MinceR | except if you have a 2D-only GPU or something | Sep 24 12:51 |
DaemonFC | well, pretty much any card within reason can do compositing | Sep 24 12:52 |
MinceR | also, let's not forget computers that don't even have a GUI | Sep 24 12:52 |
niny | i live in India , they only ships in US and Canada | Sep 24 12:52 |
DaemonFC | I've ran Compiz Fusion and KWin on as little as a Geforce 6 | Sep 24 12:52 |
DaemonFC | those are what? $$20? | Sep 24 12:52 |
DaemonFC | $20 that is | Sep 24 12:52 |
Diablo-D3 | compiz fusion has no actual hardware requirements | Sep 24 12:52 |
niny | do we get lenovo laptop without OS ? | Sep 24 12:53 |
Diablo-D3 | if radeon R100s had supported the features compiz requires, it would have ran on them too | Sep 24 12:53 |
DaemonFC | even most integrated chipsets can run Compiz, Kwin, or Windows Aero | Sep 24 12:53 |
Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: not true | Sep 24 12:53 |
DaemonFC | helps if it's a dedicated card though because they have their own memory pool | Sep 24 12:53 |
Diablo-D3 | microsoft has artificial aero requirements | Sep 24 12:53 |
MinceR | niny: dunno, it's possible (but unlikely) that EmperorLinux ships there | Sep 24 12:53 |
Diablo-D3 | which is stupid since aero does the same exact thing compiz and osx have done for yeeeaaaaarrrrs | Sep 24 12:54 |
DaemonFC | pretty much anything with DirectX 9 support and 128 MB of video RAM | Sep 24 12:54 |
DaemonFC | I have a DirectX 10.1 card with 512 megs | Sep 24 12:54 |
oiaohm | Ok bar lot of intels and via chipsets DaemonFC | Sep 24 12:54 |
DaemonFC | meh, you're forgetting how incredibly long lived DirectX 9 was | Sep 24 12:54 |
oiaohm | EVen that they support DirectX 9 with 128 MB of ram. | Sep 24 12:54 |
oiaohm | Direct X 9 is done in software. | Sep 24 12:55 |
DaemonFC | DirectX 9 hardware has been around for as long as XP | Sep 24 12:55 |
oiaohm | So Areo on them die like a dog. | Sep 24 12:55 |
oiaohm | Slow and painful. | Sep 24 12:55 |
MinceR | mincer@guardian(pts/7) % lspci|grep -i vga | Sep 24 12:55 |
MinceR | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 6a) | Sep 24 12:55 |
DaemonFC | it is not! | Sep 24 12:55 |
DaemonFC | Nvidia has had hardware support for DirectX 9 for a long long, long long long, long time | Sep 24 12:55 |
DaemonFC | :) | Sep 24 12:55 |
oiaohm | GPU costs power there are a lot of 2d only systems out there DaemonFC | Sep 24 12:55 |
oiaohm | VIA and Intel. | Sep 24 12:56 |
DaemonFC | ewww | Sep 24 12:56 |
*DaemonFC pukes | Sep 24 12:56 | |
Diablo-D3 | actually, compiz works on via and intel 3D hardware fine | Sep 24 12:56 |
DaemonFC | Intel makes good processors, most of their motherboards are OK | Sep 24 12:56 |
oiaohm | If they have gpu's Diablo-D3 | Sep 24 12:56 |
DaemonFC | but nobody does motherboard video that performs well | Sep 24 12:56 |
MinceR | compiz can trigger nvidia proprietary driver bugs though | Sep 24 12:56 |
oiaohm | Intel and Via still produces some chips without GPU. | Sep 24 12:57 |
MinceR | not something you'd want on a server :> | Sep 24 12:57 |
DaemonFC | the Pentium 4 was a dud, but every company has had some duds | Sep 24 12:57 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: anything built in the past 5 years basically does | Sep 24 12:57 |
oiaohm | In Via cases video acelerator inside. | Sep 24 12:57 |
DaemonFC | I used AMD for a while while the Pentium 4 was my only Intel choice | Sep 24 12:57 |
oiaohm | No some netbooks don't Diablo-D3 | Sep 24 12:57 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: not true | Sep 24 12:57 |
oiaohm | Power limitations for battery life. | Sep 24 12:57 |
oiaohm | Its true Diablo-D3 | Sep 24 12:58 |
Diablo-D3 | any intel netbook does because it uses a 945 northbridge | Sep 24 12:58 |
DaemonFC | AMD is killing themselves anyway | Sep 24 12:58 |
DaemonFC | they can't keep doing business this way, it's not sustainable | Sep 24 12:58 |
oiaohm | Does a 945 have to have a operational gpu. | Sep 24 12:58 |
oiaohm | Answer no. | Sep 24 12:58 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: uh, yes | Sep 24 12:58 |
oiaohm | No it does not Diablo-D3 | Sep 24 12:58 |
DaemonFC | they're bleeding cash right and left from the deep discounting they have to do to keep up with Intel | Sep 24 12:58 |
Diablo-D3 | Im pretty sure it does | Sep 24 12:58 |
Diablo-D3 | oh shut up DaemonFC | Sep 24 12:58 |
oiaohm | It is a optional part Diablo-D3 | Sep 24 12:58 |
Diablo-D3 | no one wants to hear you | Sep 24 12:58 |
DaemonFC | the only argument left for AMD is that they're cheap | Sep 24 12:59 |
oiaohm | You can swap it out for a video acelrator. | Sep 24 12:59 |
oiaohm | That is 2d only. | Sep 24 12:59 |
DaemonFC | Intel is discounting the Core 2 Quad though now and that beats the Phenom X4 at the same price range | Sep 24 12:59 |
oiaohm | Not only DaemonFC | Sep 24 12:59 |
oiaohm | Where I am AMD chips seams to have longer lifes than INTEL. | Sep 24 13:00 |
DaemonFC | the i7 gives everything else on the market a beatdown, period, but those are incredibly expensive | Sep 24 13:00 |
oiaohm | It appears to be heat linked. | Sep 24 13:00 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: you do realize I'm specifically talking about 945GC/945GSE, right? | Sep 24 13:00 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: they all include GMA950s | Sep 24 13:00 |
DaemonFC | 945G was a bad motherboard | Sep 24 13:01 |
oiaohm | Ok there are a few more 945 than those two. | Sep 24 13:01 |
DaemonFC | no memory remap | Sep 24 13:01 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: yes, Im not talking about the ones that wernt specifically for atom, Im aware of _those_ not having gpus | Sep 24 13:01 |
DaemonFC | the cheapest you'd want to go would be a G31 or a G33 series | Sep 24 13:01 |
Diablo-D3 | but atom 945s, ions, and via nano's northbridges all have GPUs | Sep 24 13:01 |
DaemonFC | those are all of $90-$150 now | Sep 24 13:01 |
DaemonFC | maybe less, I haven't looked in a few months | Sep 24 13:02 |
oiaohm | Atoms can be got for non gpu 945 and there are some devices out there using it. | Sep 24 13:02 |
Diablo-D3 | we're talking netbooks here, oiaohm | Sep 24 13:02 |
oiaohm | Due to the atom board you don't have enough room for gpu and video accelerator. | Sep 24 13:02 |
MinceR | you are? | Sep 24 13:02 |
DaemonFC | I have a Foxconn G33M-S and aside from a BIOS bug that I complained about and they fixed, it has been a good board | Sep 24 13:02 |
BNc | [davidgerard] *cough* @lilyroseallen runs screaming from fire she lit in kitchen http://is.gd/3D4Hy | Sep 24 13:02 |
BNc | [schestowitz] #IBM Pressured to Help Advance Desktop #GNU #Linux in the West http://bit.ly/3sYyrS | Sep 24 13:02 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: netbooks without gpus are doa | Sep 24 13:03 |
oiaohm | some netbooks chose the video acclerator Diablo-D3 | Sep 24 13:03 |
Diablo-D3 | well yes, some _can_ substitute | Sep 24 13:03 |
DaemonFC | netbooks as they are now are a fad | Sep 24 13:03 |
MinceR | some netbooks ship with video decelerators | Sep 24 13:03 |
MinceR | (Poulsbo) | Sep 24 13:03 |
Diablo-D3 | ion itself is a good substitute | Sep 24 13:03 |
DaemonFC | most of them anyway | Sep 24 13:03 |
Diablo-D3 | micro-9400m and a halfway decent northbridge | Sep 24 13:03 |
DaemonFC | I don't think there's any question that the touchscreen will catch on | Sep 24 13:04 |
DaemonFC | every OS is more or less ready for that | Sep 24 13:04 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: Im not aware of any netbooks/nettops that dont have some sort of a GPU | Sep 24 13:04 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: it'd be a complete waste of time to manufacture it | Sep 24 13:04 |
oiaohm | Diablo-D3: its gpu or video accerleator. | Sep 24 13:04 |
Diablo-D3 | they can do 3D. | Sep 24 13:04 |
Diablo-D3 | just barely, but they can | Sep 24 13:04 |
oiaohm | Not all video accerlators. | Sep 24 13:04 |
MinceR | i thought the discussion started with OSes/computers in general | Sep 24 13:04 |
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oiaohm | the ones with audio feed linked off the acclerator cannot. | Sep 24 13:05 |
Diablo-D3 | too much noise, too little signal | Sep 24 13:05 |
oiaohm | Ie something had to go to give perfectly sync audio and video. | Sep 24 13:05 |
oiaohm | Space problem. | Sep 24 13:05 |
BNc | [davidgerard] I wonder how @lilyroseallen is going at the Featured Artists Coalition meeting today http://is.gd/3D59z | Sep 24 13:05 |
oiaohm | Next year with next round of chip sets should allow this limitation to be given up Diablo-D3 | Sep 24 13:06 |
Diablo-D3 | oiaohm: if they contain gma950s, I'd sue the manufacturer for false advertising | Sep 24 13:06 |
Diablo-D3 | in fact, if they exist, I'd sue | Sep 24 13:07 |
Diablo-D3 | no h264 acceleration without it | Sep 24 13:07 |
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oiaohm | The fun bit about direct X 9 is a card that would have been suitable for Direct X 6 can claim to be a full Direct X 9 supporting card. | Sep 24 13:10 |
oiaohm | That is where people get caught. Direct X 9 128 megs really does not say it can run vista or Windows 7. | Sep 24 13:11 |
oiaohm | Best clue is look at the opengl number if it is under 2.0 you don't have the gpu. | Sep 24 13:11 |
oiaohm | In most cases. | Sep 24 13:11 |
oiaohm | Funny one a ATI R100 is a Direct X 9 card. | Sep 24 13:12 |
oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/09/horrifically-bad-software-demos-become-performance-art.ars << Ok LOL | Sep 24 13:22 |
tuxmania | gawd how lily allen got owned | Sep 24 13:22 |
BNc | [davidgerard] "upsides" of unemployment: I have two spare notnews, two ideas and there's still hours of current news to RAAAGE at | Sep 24 13:23 |
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BNc | [davidgerard] msi wind: mic is awful in ubuntu for skype, etc. is a plugin headset usable, though? anyone with actual experience of this? #ubuntu | Sep 24 13:31 |
BNc | [schestowitz] Is #Microsoft / #Novell ’s #Moonlight Dead Now? http://bit.ly/aUpsQ | Sep 24 13:40 |
schestowitz | tuxmania: she did | Sep 24 13:41 |
schestowitz | It's good publicity for her though | Sep 24 13:41 |
schestowitz | She's in many headlines, which increases awareness | Sep 24 13:41 |
tuxmania | I dont know, in sweden some artists have almost disappeared after statements like that | Sep 24 13:42 |
tuxmania | its not always good to tell your customers they suck | Sep 24 13:42 |
schestowitz | Like Abba? | Sep 24 13:43 |
schestowitz | I lost respect for them after they had joined the anti-TPB party line | Sep 24 13:43 |
tuxmania | Many others did too. But it wasnt whole of abba, just one of them. | Sep 24 13:43 |
schestowitz | I liked the film Mamma Mia though. Watched it a year ago (almost exactly 365 days ago) | Sep 24 13:43 |
schestowitz | tuxmania: let me find something.... | Sep 24 13:44 |
schestowitz | Here: http://torrentfreak.com/swedish-minister-takes-anti-pirate-bay-stance-090526/ | Sep 24 13:44 |
schestowitz | What's wrong with the photo? | Sep 24 13:44 |
tuxmania | well for starter she is a politician | Sep 24 13:45 |
tuxmania | i can see the Telia logo in the background | Sep 24 13:45 |
tuxmania | Im thinking of starting a astroturfer tracking group | Sep 24 13:48 |
tuxmania | Its illegal in EU yet very prevelent | Sep 24 13:48 |
oiaohm | http://www.itnews.com.au/News/156528,nsw-seeks-to-build-unhackable-netbook-network.aspx << Someone just raised the kick me sign. | Sep 24 13:48 |
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oiaohm | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8045255507.html?kc=rss schestowitz pitty Ibm would not start doing this in the USA. There are a lot of poor people everywhere. | Sep 24 13:52 |
oiaohm | http://boot.kernel.org/ Ok this is a odd ball project | Sep 24 13:55 |
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BNc | [popey] Hotel booked for LRL and OggCamp - http://lugradio.org/live/2009/ http://oggcamp.org/ | Sep 24 14:01 |
BNc | [ml2mst] A little bit sad today. I was not able to fix Julian's computer. Julian brought me a broken AMD Athlon XP 1.40 Ghz based system to fix... | Sep 24 14:01 |
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BNc | [ml2mst] I wanted to prove my competence so badly to Julian, but failed. | Sep 24 14:07 |
oiaohm | Nothing is unfixable its just how much it will cost in new parts. | Sep 24 14:09 |
BNc | [ml2mst] My first diagnose was a malfunctioning main board (after hearing his description) and I'm afraid, my first diagnose was right. | Sep 24 14:10 |
BNc | [ml2mst] I am not a quitter, always give all possibilities a try. Only after everything fails I give up. | Sep 24 14:12 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: see my post on IBM from this morning | Sep 24 14:17 |
schestowitz | I gree | Sep 24 14:17 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: the IT News article is from Microsoft shill Brett Winterford | Sep 24 14:18 |
schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?q=site:boycottnovell.com+Brett+Winterford&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8&hl=en-GB | Sep 24 14:18 |
schestowitz | "Windows 7" + "uncrackable" = like shill Microsoft placement | Sep 24 14:18 |
schestowitz | Never gets it wrong :-p | Sep 24 14:18 |
oiaohm | BNc my line of work there is no such thing as unfixable. New mainboard New cpu new ram ok basically new machine is still a fix. | Sep 24 14:24 |
oiaohm | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/microsoft-google-chrome-frame-makes-ie-less-secure.ars LOL MS panic. | Sep 24 14:27 |
schestowitz | BNc is a script that brings Twits from regulars of BN | Sep 24 14:27 |
schestowitz | So Marti can't see your response here | Sep 24 14:27 |
oiaohm | Ok | Sep 24 14:28 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: LOL | Sep 24 14:28 |
schestowitz | Predictable, re IE | Sep 24 14:28 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: proposed solution: move to Chrome | Sep 24 14:28 |
oiaohm | MS loses control of IE they have lost the net. | Sep 24 14:28 |
schestowitz | Maxthon | Sep 24 14:28 |
oiaohm | This is kinda freedom for web developers. | Sep 24 14:29 |
oiaohm | No worse having people install chrome plugin as flash. | Sep 24 14:29 |
oiaohm | Both could possiably be nasty to end users. | Sep 24 14:29 |
oiaohm | Its really the next level of war with MS. Don't just compete with MS products. Embrace and Extend. | Sep 24 14:31 |
oiaohm | Then hopefully exterminate. | Sep 24 14:32 |
MinceR | extinguish | Sep 24 14:32 |
oiaohm | Exterminate in the sence of removing its power over standards. | Sep 24 14:36 |
oiaohm | The software might be still around but its effect on the IT world becomes exterminated. | Sep 24 14:36 |
oiaohm | ODF has had reasonable progress from the ODF plugins for MS Office. | Sep 24 14:37 |
MinceR | and since it's low quality, expensive crap that can't lock in any more, it will die. :> | Sep 24 14:38 |
oiaohm | Extinguish will take longer than exterminate | Sep 24 14:39 |
oiaohm | Annoying legacy systems. | Sep 24 14:39 |
BNc | [schestowitz] Microsoft Patents Customer-hostile DRM, Refuses to Obey Patent Law... Patent Troll Tracker Set Free http://bit.ly/3zdFLa | Sep 24 14:39 |
schestowitz | bbl | Sep 24 14:40 |
oiaohm | At least the test cases on GPL are starting to turn up now. | Sep 24 14:49 |
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tuxmania | re: chrome plugin in IE, i twitch when i read microsoft complaining about security in another product | Sep 24 14:52 |
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wallclimber | Microsoft often reminds me of ill-mannored, disruptive children. When called out for their bad behavior they point fingers at others..."He started it" or "They made me do it" or "They did it first!" or whatever. They blame everyone else and never accept responsibility for their own decisions to behave badly. | Sep 24 15:19 |
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Diablo-D3 | http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/9QdqzTrLw34/GPL-Wins-In-French-Court-Case | Sep 24 15:34 |
amarsh04 | yes Diablo-D3, schestowitz posted http://fsffrance.org/news/article2009-09-22.en.html earlier | Sep 24 15:36 |
Diablo-D3 | er heh | Sep 24 15:37 |
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toddt72 | hello | Sep 24 16:06 |
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anth0nyt | hello | Sep 24 16:12 |
anth0nyt | do not know?? | Sep 24 16:13 |
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BNc | [davidgerard] quick while it lasts: lily allen macros on 4chan (NSFW) http://is.gd/3DmCS | Sep 24 16:36 |
BNc | [davidgerard] quick while it lasts: lily allen macros on 4chan (NSFW) http://is.gd/3DmCS @lilyroseallen | Sep 24 16:37 |
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BNc | [popey] Pffft Windows 7 Houseparties indeed.. Choose another way.. http://houseparty.cx/ | Sep 24 17:21 |
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BNc | [anivar] RT @cis_india Photo of World Day Against Software Patents being celebrated at @cis_india: http://tr.im/zCr9 #ssp #swpatents #foss | Sep 24 17:28 |
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Will_ | Credit goes to an AC on /. for this: Did Microsoft really just make an official statement that could easily be turned against Silverlight: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/24/1250228/Microsoft-Says-Google-Chrome-Frame-Makes-IE-Less-Secure?art_pos=5 | Sep 24 17:37 |
Will_ | From a Microsoft spokesperson: "'Given the security issues with plugins in general and Google Chrome in particular, Google Chrome Frame running as a plugin has doubled the attack area for malware and malicious scripts. This is not a risk we would recommend our friends and families take." | Sep 24 17:38 |
Will_ | From an AC poster: "You just made one of the most important arguments against Silverlight official." | Sep 24 17:39 |
MinceR | :D | Sep 24 17:42 |
MinceR | pwnt | Sep 24 17:43 |
Will_ | A while ago I saw a plugin for IE that injected Firefox code into IE to give the ability to handle Canvas properly. Now we have a plugin for IE that injects Chrome's renderer and JavaScript engine into it. | Sep 24 17:44 |
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schestowitz | What a ripoff. 20 quid for a shaver battery. Haha ! | Sep 24 18:04 |
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Diablo-D3 | and you know whats funny? | Sep 24 18:05 |
schestowitz | What happened to trmancobot? | Sep 24 18:05 |
Diablo-D3 | that makes an argument _for_ java | Sep 24 18:05 |
schestowitz | Or Chrome | Sep 24 18:05 |
Diablo-D3 | since java has a near perfect sandbox | Sep 24 18:05 |
BNc | [popey] Ara Pulido cranks out a screencast showing how easy it is to contribute to Ubuntu - in 6 minutes! http://bit.ly/13mjVs | Sep 24 18:08 |
schestowitz | Diablo-D3: see comment: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/09/24/moonlight-maybe-dead-now/#comments | Sep 24 18:09 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: wow | Sep 24 18:15 |
Diablo-D3 | whoever wrote that is a fucking moron | Sep 24 18:15 |
Diablo-D3 | java is typically as fast as C (and, in an unrelated but similar thing, you have to write much more C to do what Java does) | Sep 24 18:16 |
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Diablo-D3 | it doesnt use that much memory (and 7 uses far less) | Sep 24 18:17 |
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schestowitz | trmanco: got the filter? | Sep 24 18:32 |
schestowitz | Oh, here they go again..... http://thebeezspeaks.blogspot.com/2009/09/successful-women-in-foss-and-it.html | Sep 24 18:34 |
BNc | [davidgerard] for @lilyroseallen and fans: "ITS QUITE OVIOUS" http://quiteovious.blogspot.com/ | Sep 24 18:36 |
schestowitz | http://nestux.com/blog/stallman-le-dice-traidor-a-icaza | Sep 24 18:37 |
Diablo-D3 | english please | Sep 24 18:38 |
schestowitz | *LOL | Sep 24 18:38 |
schestowitz | See David's link | Sep 24 18:38 |
schestowitz | Lily gets no luv | Sep 24 18:39 |
schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPXXGN0_-ig | Sep 24 18:39 |
schestowitz | YouTube is great for digging up music from ages ago within seconds. | Sep 24 18:39 |
schestowitz | http://crumja.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/links-roundup/ | Sep 24 18:40 |
schestowitz | "In the open-source world, Miguel de Icaza has often been castigated, but none more harshly than this remark by Richard Stallman, calling him a traitor to the movement." | Sep 24 18:40 |
schestowitz | Hey link to ZeeDee and say | Sep 24 18:40 |
schestowitz | "Most reactions have been critical of Stallman for his harsh language and attempts to purify the community with an absurd witch-hunt." | Sep 24 18:40 |
schestowitz | Most??? | Sep 24 18:40 |
schestowitz | Proof? | Sep 24 18:40 |
schestowitz | Examples? | Sep 24 18:40 |
schestowitz | "I’ve met de Icaza in person in 2006 at Microsoft’s .NET conference when I worked as an intern there (the same summer that I met Bill Gates, Anders Heljsberg, and Jim Hugunin)." | Sep 24 18:41 |
schestowitz | "I met BillG. OMFG!!!!!1" | Sep 24 18:41 |
schestowitz | "His brainchild, Mono, is an amazing technical piece of work that should be embraced by the community as bringing more languages and software to our existing pool." | Sep 24 18:42 |
schestowitz | Says a dude with met BillG and echoes Miguel. Heh. | Sep 24 18:42 |
schestowitz | "I’m Richard, a 20 year old student currently attending UC Berkeley. " http://crumja.wordpress.com/about-2/ | Sep 24 18:43 |
cubezzz | well you can be hard-core against mono, and be anti-wine and go down the Stallman route | Sep 24 18:46 |
cubezzz | anything can be ported, I don't really see any reason to run windows .exe's | Sep 24 18:47 |
cubezzz | if it's something I wrote myself especially so | Sep 24 18:48 |
cubezzz | but something like an old windows game, which I don't have source code, then wine could be used | Sep 24 18:51 |
schestowitz | It's different | Sep 24 19:01 |
schestowitz | Wine does not involve development side | Sep 24 19:01 |
schestowitz | It's compatibility for stuff that's binary | Sep 24 19:01 |
BNc | [anivar] I just voted for http://pic.gd/e11fb5 Check it out! #TweetPhoto | Sep 24 19:02 |
schestowitz | Mono is about making Linux programs Microsoft-like | Sep 24 19:02 |
schestowitz | I.e. expanding Microsoft's ecosystem | Sep 24 19:02 |
BNc | [schestowitz] @anivar thanks for the photo. http://bit.ly/3ulmNS | Sep 24 19:10 |
BNc | [schestowitz] RT @timbrayIan Murdock's Linux family tree, way cool: http://bit.ly/45vi9k | Sep 24 19:13 |
Omar87 | Hi all. | Sep 24 19:16 |
schestowitz | Hi | Sep 24 19:18 |
schestowitz | This is getting weird: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1556119/dell-microsoft-moblin | Sep 24 19:19 |
schestowitz | WIntel tries to dominate Linux | Sep 24 19:19 |
schestowitz | Survey: Online News Credibility Increasing http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/09/24/survey-online-news-credibility-increasing | Sep 24 19:21 |
schestowitz | EBay may spin off PayPal http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/ebay_may_spin_off_paypal_M2a2b23nByvrZblyKSFMJN | Sep 24 19:24 |
schestowitz | Omar87: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8270601.stm | Sep 24 19:27 |
schestowitz | Pseudo security makes jobs from marketing people (Snake oil)... http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/mcafee_ireland_job/ | Sep 24 19:31 |
schestowitz | Microsoft phones are ugly, as expected, like Zune.... http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/09/24/microsoft_mobiles/ Ewwwww.. | Sep 24 19:33 |
BNc | [anivar] @schestowitz Thanks for the coverage | Sep 24 19:34 |
cubezzz | Softlanding Linux System, never heard of that | Sep 24 19:42 |
schestowitz | There's lots of good tstuff there and ian removed clutter (minor distros) | Sep 24 19:44 |
schestowitz | It was new to me that United Linux made SLE ?? | Sep 24 19:44 |
schestowitz | IBM does OK with Linux.... http://www.itespresso.fr/ibm-et-canonical-sengagengt-pour-les-netbooks-sous-ubuntu-en-afrique-31605.html | Sep 24 19:45 |
schestowitz | Some folks give it too hard a time. They need to be pressured re sw patents mostly. | Sep 24 19:45 |
cubezzz | Yggdrasil is the first one I saw, then Darkstar | Sep 24 19:46 |
cubezzz | didn't convert over immediately though | Sep 24 19:46 |
schestowitz | Gnash 0.8.6 Released! http://www.gnashdev.org/?q=node/71 | Sep 24 19:47 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: no, MCC is the first | Sep 24 19:47 |
schestowitz | It was made here | Sep 24 19:47 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: funny you mention that | Sep 24 19:47 |
schestowitz | 200 yards from where I am | Sep 24 19:47 |
cubezzz | schestowitz, first one _I_ saw :) | Sep 24 19:47 |
*Diablo-D3 already has 8.6 installed | Sep 24 19:47 | |
cubezzz | I'm not a flash fan | Sep 24 19:49 |
cubezzz | but I am looking at gnash | Sep 24 19:49 |
schestowitz | I need this just for YouTuve | Sep 24 19:51 |
schestowitz | That's what got it traction in the first place.. in recent year. After a reduc post dotnet boom and all | Sep 24 19:51 |
schestowitz | I was totally impressed by mashup media players when I first saw YouTube around 2004 | Sep 24 19:52 |
schestowitz | This is brilliant news for Linux: http://www.linuxinsider.com/rsstory/68204.html?wlc=1253818454 | Sep 24 19:52 |
schestowitz | Up, up it goes. | Sep 24 19:52 |
schestowitz | Linux up 37% | Sep 24 19:52 |
schestowitz | Microsoft down 32% | Sep 24 19:53 |
cubezzz | there's a python script that downloads flv from youtube, most of the time I use that | Sep 24 19:53 |
schestowitz | Maybe I should do that too | Sep 24 19:54 |
schestowitz | I could then browse the site without Flash | Sep 24 19:54 |
schestowitz | I have a plugin that gets it as ogg | Sep 24 19:54 |
schestowitz | It's not a way to stream well, though | Sep 24 19:54 |
cubezzz | command line is where it's at :) | Sep 24 19:54 |
schestowitz | Maybe I should look into gnash and swfdec | Sep 24 19:54 |
schestowitz | I heard it's mature | Sep 24 19:54 |
schestowitz | [H]omer says so | Sep 24 19:54 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: but only if you know what you look for | Sep 24 19:55 |
schestowitz | I watch many quick flicks | Sep 24 19:55 |
cubezzz | Flare ftw, decompiles SWFs | Sep 24 19:57 |
cubezzz | http://www.nowrap.de/flare.html | Sep 24 19:57 |
cubezzz | well when the streaming is slow, you may as well dload it | Sep 24 19:59 |
cubezzz | no need for real time | Sep 24 19:59 |
schestowitz | Obama urges banks to accept new sense of responsibility http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/14/obama-speech-wall-street | Sep 24 20:01 |
schestowitz | Stalin grandson in court fight to clear dictator's name http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/14/stalin-grandson-court-fight | Sep 24 20:02 |
BNc | [schestowitz] In Wal-Mart's Image http://ping.fm/U1fck | Sep 24 20:04 |
schestowitz | The Obama Plan in 4 Minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUNCpnRBf9o | Sep 24 20:04 |
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shifuimam | sup kids | Sep 24 20:05 |
Omar87 | Hi all. | Sep 24 20:07 |
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trmanco | schestowitz: sorry, I took longer than I thought to get back home | Sep 24 20:08 |
shifuimam | has anyone in here bought Microsoft TechNet? | Sep 24 20:09 |
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schestowitz | http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/09/microsoft_tax_policies_in_spotlight_amid_state_budget_shortfall.html?ana=from_rss | Sep 24 20:11 |
phIRCe | Title: Microsoft tax policies in spotlight as WA state faces budget crunch .::. Size~: 44.56 KB | Sep 24 20:11 |
schestowitz | "tax policies"... now there's a euphemism | Sep 24 20:11 |
cubezzz | yeah that's funny | Sep 24 20:13 |
BNc | [schestowitz] US Troops Attack Somalia < http://ping.fm/WwWMI > | Sep 24 20:14 |
shifuimam | guess that's a no | Sep 24 20:14 |
schestowitz | Lost youth: turning young girls into sex symbols < http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/sep/18/lost-youth-young-girls > | Sep 24 20:14 |
trmanco | :| | Sep 24 20:14 |
schestowitz | shifuimam: why TechNet? | Sep 24 20:14 |
shifuimam | because it's awesome? | Sep 24 20:14 |
schestowitz | trmanco: Guardian rejects bots | Sep 24 20:15 |
schestowitz | That's normal, as per yesterday | Sep 24 20:15 |
trmanco | yeah | Sep 24 20:15 |
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trmanco | but I think I can bypass that | Sep 24 20:15 |
schestowitz | shifuimam: whatever. | Sep 24 20:15 |
trmanco | I think all I need is a user agent | Sep 24 20:15 |
shifuimam | schestowitz: why not? | Sep 24 20:15 |
schestowitz | *LOL* Lily falls deeper into the trap. http://techdirt.com/articles/20090923/1138026294.shtml | Sep 24 20:16 |
phIRCe | Title: Some Questions For Lily Allen | Techdirt .::. Size~: 113.17 KB | Sep 24 20:16 |
trmanco | schestowitz: you can put bnc back on notices | Sep 24 20:18 |
cubezzz | just noticed the big jump re: RHT | Sep 24 20:18 |
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schestowitz | Domino's gave free pizzas today | Sep 24 20:20 |
schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, expected | Sep 24 20:20 |
schestowitz | Linux too, in general. I'd post links later | Sep 24 20:20 |
schestowitz | trmanco: OK | Sep 24 20:20 |
schestowitz | Let me change the code | Sep 24 20:20 |
schestowitz | Let's see if I can do it 'live' | Sep 24 20:22 |
BNc | [schestowitz] Why The Traditional News Media Is Becoming Less Relevant: They Didn't Adapt http://ping.fm/BMHnu They can't adapt. Innovator's dilemma | Sep 24 20:23 |
phIRCe | Title: Why The Traditional News Media Is Becoming Less Relevant: They Didn't Adapt | Techdirt .::. Size~: 38.8 KB | Sep 24 20:23 |
schestowitz | Changing code as I go along | Sep 24 20:23 |
schestowitz | No | Sep 24 20:23 |
schestowitz | Perl may be caching the code | Sep 24 20:23 |
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shifuimam | schestowitz is there any reason to NOT get technet? | Sep 24 20:23 |
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schestowitz | shifuimam: you could ask similarly, why not get a bath? | Sep 24 20:24 |
schestowitz | It's not a topic we deal with | Sep 24 20:24 |
shifuimam | mkay | Sep 24 20:24 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Allen retreats after reciting MAFIAA line: "A Teaching Moment For Lily Allen [Update: And *Poof* Goes Her Blog]" http://ping.fm/iG7uo | Sep 24 20:25 | |
phIRCe | Title: A Teaching Moment For Lily Allen [Update: And *Poof* Goes Her Blog] | Techdirt .::. Size~: 266.59 KB | Sep 24 20:25 |
trmanco | :) | Sep 24 20:25 |
schestowitz | "Update: Wow. In the half an hour or so that I took to write this post, Lily erased the blog post where she responded (I've got a screenshot if anyone wants to see it), and just added a note to Twitter, saying that she's shut down the entire blog due to too much abuse. Lily, it's not abuse if we're just asking you to rethink your positions that appear to not be particularly well thought out." | Sep 24 20:26 |
schestowitz | LMAO | Sep 24 20:26 |
schestowitz | SHe's trying to push in MAFIAA law and her fans must be going berserk, she can't take it | Sep 24 20:26 |
schestowitz | \ | Sep 24 20:26 |
schestowitz | Getting Paid Might Kill You? http://techdirt.com/articles/20090913/1644506169.shtml | Sep 24 20:28 |
phIRCe | Title: Getting Paid Might Kill You? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 48.85 KB | Sep 24 20:29 |
schestowitz | I like this guy's blog | Sep 24 20:29 |
schestowitz | Even if he's not paid a single penny he benefits from the links economy and grows in influence that he puts to good use, e.g. against MAFIAA | Sep 24 20:29 |
Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: I do that too you know >_> | Sep 24 20:32 |
schestowitz | But you don't blog much | Sep 24 20:32 |
schestowitz | Groklaw doesn't either, not anymore | Sep 24 20:33 |
Omar87 | Hi guys. | Sep 24 20:33 |
Omar87 | Anybody here listens to the Alex Jones radio? | Sep 24 20:33 |
schestowitz | http://www.sacramentopress.com/headline/14158/Where_Is_My_Green | Sep 24 20:33 |
schestowitz | "I choose Ubuntu Green as a name of our organization, because I believe deeply in the South African term Ubuntu, which speaks to the common humanity and interdependence of all of humanity. The green movement will not be successful unless its goals are firmly rooted in ensuring green justice through the improving of the daily lives of all the world’s citizens." | Sep 24 20:33 |
schestowitz | Omar87: he's nuts too often | Sep 24 20:34 |
schestowitz | Let me find that Jones go nutz video..... | Sep 24 20:34 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: That's not my question. | Sep 24 20:35 |
schestowitz | Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APTn1EPg9E&feature=related | Sep 24 20:35 |
phIRCe | Title: YouTube - Alex Jones Interviews Noam Chomsky (Part 5) .::. Size~: 127.67 KB | Sep 24 20:35 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: My question is that, is the radio always live? | Sep 24 20:35 |
schestowitz | I watched his RMS interviewish | Sep 24 20:36 |
schestowitz | It was good | Sep 24 20:36 |
schestowitz | He didn't behave badly | Sep 24 20:36 |
schestowitz | And he was humble with RMS | Sep 24 20:36 |
schestowitz | Omar87: twit.tv is usualyl live and it's good | Sep 24 20:36 |
schestowitz | http://www.twit.tv/FLOSS | Sep 24 20:36 |
phIRCe | Title: The TWiT Netcast Network with Leo Laporte .::. Size~: 22.95 KB | Sep 24 20:36 |
schestowitz | http://live.twit.tv/ | Sep 24 20:36 |
phIRCe | Title: TWiT Live - Live Netcasts from TWiT with Leo Laporte and Friends .::. Size~: 9.75 KB | Sep 24 20:36 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: 'coz I am listening to him right now, and he seems to be talking to two of his colleagues who seem to be trapped in a riot with the military throwing rubber-bullets, gas and even sound bombs at them. | Sep 24 20:38 |
schestowitz | Sounds like fffun. | Sep 24 20:38 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: And he keeps on telling them to just get the hell outta there and try to find someplace safe and not let the police confiscate a video that they have taken. | Sep 24 20:39 |
schestowitz | amarsh04: http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2009/09/hp-launches-communitylinuxorg.html | Sep 24 20:39 |
schestowitz | Omar87: yeah, I can imagine | Sep 24 20:40 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: I ain't sure, but could something like that be happening right now somewhere in the US? | Sep 24 20:40 |
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Omar87 | schestowitz: Really? | Sep 24 20:40 |
schestowitz | Sometimes the solution is to throw many people at the problem | Sep 24 20:41 |
schestowitz | Lots of cameras | Sep 24 20:41 |
schestowitz | So they can't capture them all | Sep 24 20:41 |
schestowitz | In big protest it happens | Sep 24 20:41 |
amarsh04 | just clicking now schestowitz | Sep 24 20:41 |
schestowitz | They have to act polite cause they can't hide the footage and they know they are surrounded | Sep 24 20:41 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: And he said it's happening in Pittsburgh. | Sep 24 20:41 |
schestowitz | like when alex jones refused the fingerprints scan | Sep 24 20:42 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: I loved it when Alex Jones exposed those bizarre rituals at the Bohemian Grove. | Sep 24 20:43 |
trmanco | http://media.peopleofwalmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/2011.jpg | Sep 24 20:47 |
phIRCe | Title: Not a web page! Aborting... .::. Size~: Too big! | Sep 24 20:47 |
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schestowitz | Omar87: take it with a grain of salt | Sep 24 20:48 |
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pepsi | lol | Sep 24 20:48 |
schestowitz | He talks some false nonsense sometimes, maybe knowingly | Sep 24 20:48 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: What? | Sep 24 20:48 |
pepsi | what the hell is going on in here? | Sep 24 20:48 |
pepsi | and why do you fags where your ophats? | Sep 24 20:49 |
*phIRCe has kicked pepsi from #boycottnovell (Watch you language!) | Sep 24 20:49 | |
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pepsi | hilarious | Sep 24 20:49 |
pepsi | fuck shit cunt whore bitch ass | Sep 24 20:49 |
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schestowitz | Omar87: you want examples? | Sep 24 20:49 |
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pepsi | heh | Sep 24 20:49 |
_goblin | my my, what a potty mouth you have pepsi.... | Sep 24 20:50 |
*ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz | Sep 24 20:50 | |
*pepsi shakes in his boots | Sep 24 20:50 | |
_goblin | don't be frightened...... | Sep 24 20:51 |
schestowitz | COLA is still worse | Sep 24 20:51 |
_goblin | sorry...Hi Roy! | Sep 24 20:51 |
pepsi | i prefer coke | Sep 24 20:51 |
Diablo-D3 | ..... | Sep 24 20:52 |
pepsi | i like the way it smells | Sep 24 20:52 |
Diablo-D3 | says the guy named pepsi | Sep 24 20:52 |
schestowitz | "Red Hat, Inc. (NYSE: RHT) rallied $1.17 or 4.70% to $26.05 after The biggest seller of the Linux operating system reported second- quarter sales and profit that beat analysts’ estimates as subscription revenue rose." | Sep 24 20:52 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Actually, I do believe in most of what he says. Not because he says it, but because I watched a documentary that talks about all that in incredible and frightening detail. | Sep 24 20:52 |
pepsi | lol | Sep 24 20:52 |
pepsi | a channel full of bots | Sep 24 20:52 |
schestowitz | From http://www.benzinga.com/16612/industrials/stocks-to-watch-ctas-erts-rimm-rht-hero-payx-pps | Sep 24 20:52 |
pepsi | losers | Sep 24 20:52 |
phIRCe | Title: Stocks to Watch (CTAS,ERTS,RIMM,RHT,HERO,PAYX,PPS) | Benzinga.com .::. Size~: 57.8 KB | Sep 24 20:52 |
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Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: btw, see today's RHT? | Sep 24 20:52 |
Diablo-D3 | went up | Sep 24 20:52 |
cubezzz | yes | Sep 24 20:52 |
schestowitz | profit up 37% | Sep 24 20:53 |
schestowitz | Opposite of MSFT | Sep 24 20:53 |
schestowitz | MSFT changed how it reports earnings | Sep 24 20:53 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Parents beg for mercy from Justin Fletcher http://notnews.today.com/?p=661 | Sep 24 20:53 | |
phIRCe | Title: Parents beg for mercy from Justin Fletcher - News of the News .::. Size~: 33.33 KB | Sep 24 20:53 |
schestowitz | So it won't be comparable | Sep 24 20:53 |
Omar87 | _goblin: Hey there! :) | Sep 24 20:53 |
_goblin | hi! how you doing? | Sep 24 20:53 |
Omar87 | _goblin: Great! Thanks. :) | Sep 24 20:53 |
_goblin | whats up with phIRCe? | Sep 24 20:54 |
schestowitz | Omar87: Obama Deception is a good one | Sep 24 20:54 |
Omar87 | _goblin: You? | Sep 24 20:54 |
schestowitz | Unlike others, it is not filled with noise and disinfo | Sep 24 20:54 |
schestowitz | Maybe he learned to keep away the trash | Sep 24 20:54 |
schestowitz | The RMS interview was very clean, for instance | Sep 24 20:54 |
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Omar87 | schestowitz: Yeah, I didn't watch it yet, but I think it seems interesting. | Sep 24 20:55 |
schestowitz | _goblin: it watches language and echoes URLs as titles | Sep 24 20:55 |
schestowitz | Omar87: it's very good | Sep 24 20:55 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Yeah. | Sep 24 20:55 |
schestowitz | Go for it at the expense of other stuff. As for me, I plan to watch Monty Python on YT | Sep 24 20:55 |
schestowitz | Omar87: also very current | Sep 24 20:55 |
schestowitz | Maybe the latest output | Sep 24 20:55 |
trmanco | http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2009/09/23/september_2009_web_server_survey.html | Sep 24 20:55 |
phIRCe | Title: September 2009 Web Server Survey - Netcraft .::. Size~: 19.92 KB | Sep 24 20:55 |
schestowitz | None of Jones' BS of global warming denial and 9/11 conspiracy theory | Sep 24 20:56 |
schestowitz | trmanco: I don't do Netcraft anymore. They lost credibility | Sep 24 20:56 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Great. I'll try watch it as soon as I have the chance. | Sep 24 20:56 |
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schestowitz | Red Hat u 14% | Sep 24 20:58 |
schestowitz | In one day | Sep 24 20:58 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: Well, regarding 9/11, I too believe it was an inside job. And I believed waaaay before I knew that Alex Jones actually exists. | Sep 24 20:58 |
sebsebseb | hi | Sep 24 20:59 |
schestowitz | http://magazine.redhat.com/2009/09/15/where-have-we-been/ | Sep 24 21:00 |
phIRCe | Title: Red Hat Magazine | Where have we been? .::. Size~: 19.89 KB | Sep 24 21:00 |
schestowitz | Been quiet there | Sep 24 21:00 |
schestowitz | Omar87: it has nothing to do with Jones that one... the hypothesis was created just shortly after the incident, but it was (And still is) far fetched. What's problematic though is the deficient investigation. | Sep 24 21:05 |
schestowitz | http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2009/09/music-applet-controls-tunes-from-the-linux-system-tray/ | Sep 24 21:05 |
phIRCe | Title: Music Applet Controls Tunes From The Linux System Tray | Lifehacker Australia .::. Size~: 30.77 KB | Sep 24 21:05 |
schestowitz | How is this new? | Sep 24 21:05 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] News media might save itself with s*cial m*dia http://is.gd/3DEy6 but Cluetrain Manifesto had it all 10 years ago http://is.gd/3DEzv | Sep 24 21:07 | |
phIRCe | Title: Nieman Reports | Why the News Media Became Irrelevant—And How Social Media Can Help .::. Size~: 64.93 KB | Sep 24 21:07 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: I know. I has nothing do with Jones. Jones is just another civilian looking for answers like everyone else. But still, I do believe that there's a hell of a lot more to it than just bunch of men kidnapped a couple airplanes and penetrated flew them through the two towers. | Sep 24 21:08 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: It** has nothing to do with Jones.. | Sep 24 21:09 |
schestowitz | I remember a professor talking about this just days after 9/11 | Sep 24 21:09 |
schestowitz | Maybe a NYC professors, I can't recall for sure. That's when I first heard about these theories, of which there are many variants | Sep 24 21:10 |
schestowitz | More of the theory came again after other incidents like Iraq invasion, which then tied it to "pretext" allegation" | Sep 24 21:11 |
schestowitz | But just scooping stuff up years later ain't too compelling | Sep 24 21:11 |
schestowitz | There are many people involved and so many things to pick in such complex events and things prior to it | Sep 24 21:11 |
schestowitz | It would be insane to plan something like that | Sep 24 21:11 |
Omar87 | True | Sep 24 21:11 |
schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220100633 | Sep 24 21:12 |
phIRCe | Title: Ericsson Intros Mobile Broadband Module -- Mobile Broadband -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 58.1 KB | Sep 24 21:12 |
schestowitz | http://www.informationweek.com/news/internet/google/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220100440 | Sep 24 21:14 |
schestowitz | "Although Google released Picasa 3.0 for Linux, a company spokesperson said that version 3.5 is only being released for Mac and Windows due to low adoption of Picasa 3.0 among Linux users." | Sep 24 21:14 |
phIRCe | Title: Google Releases Picasa 3.5 -- InformationWeek .::. Size~: 57.42 KB | Sep 24 21:14 |
schestowitz | They should be surprised if they make a friggin WINE!!! (+DirectX) program 'for Linux;' | Sep 24 21:14 |
schestowitz | And it's proprietary | Sep 24 21:14 |
schestowitz | Linux has better photo management apps | Sep 24 21:14 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: did you hear about the new O'reilly-Microsoft deal? | Sep 24 21:15 |
Omar87 | schestowitz: It seems like MS will go DRM-free on books. | Sep 24 21:16 |
schestowitz | http://apcmag.com/netgear-unveils-new-399-home-nas-box.htm | Sep 24 21:17 |
schestowitz | Omar87: got any links? I didn't hear about it | Sep 24 21:18 |
schestowitz | It sounds insignificant if Microsoft merely joins the 21st century 9 years late :-p | Sep 24 21:18 |
schestowitz | Tell me when MS embraces CC | Sep 24 21:18 |
Omar87 | Here's one: http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/update.aspx | Sep 24 21:20 |
schestowitz | Ewww.. microsoft.com | Sep 24 21:21 |
schestowitz | Apt URL | Sep 24 21:21 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is slowly "learning"... how to live | Sep 24 21:22 |
schestowitz | http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/09/23/linuxcon_2009_ibm_canonical_africa/ | Sep 24 21:24 |
phIRCe | Title: IBM and Canonical push onto African netbooks • Channel Register .::. Size~: 22.7 KB | Sep 24 21:25 |
schestowitz | Microsoft marketing has become SOOOO weird. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-10360431-62.html | Sep 24 21:28 |
phIRCe | Title: New Windows 7 launch video breaks bizarre barrier | Software, Interrupted - CNET News .::. Size~: 217.58 KB | Sep 24 21:28 |
schestowitz | That video is embarrassing | Sep 24 21:28 |
schestowitz | http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2009/092409-intel-ports-linux-netbook-os.html?fsrc=rss-linux-news | Sep 24 21:38 |
phIRCe | Title: Intel ports Linux netbook OS to desktops - LinuxWorld .::. Size~: 35.84 KB | Sep 24 21:38 |
trmanco | heh | Sep 24 21:45 |
trmanco | the bot is eating up 1 MB of ram | Sep 24 21:45 |
trmanco | :) | Sep 24 21:45 |
trmanco | it's still nice and slim | Sep 24 21:45 |
schestowitz | http://pclinuxos2007.blogspot.com/2009/09/how-to-play-real-media-files-on-mplayer.html | Sep 24 21:54 |
phIRCe | Title: PCLinuxOS - the Big Daddy of all Desktop Linux Distributions: How to Play Real Media Files on Mplayer - Mepis 8 .::. Size~: 101.26 KB | Sep 24 21:54 |
schestowitz | trmanco: chop the bots arm, it'll be slimmer | Sep 24 21:54 |
schestowitz | t's | Sep 24 21:54 |
schestowitz | omg!ubuntu http://d0od.blogspot.com/2009/09/dropbox-install-karmic.html | Sep 24 21:54 |
phIRCe | Title: OMG! UBUNTU!: 5 Steps To Install Dropbox In Karmic Alpha .::. Size~: 141.06 KB | Sep 24 21:55 |
trmanco | LOL | Sep 24 21:56 |
schestowitz | It's true that some people indeed criticise the FSF. | Sep 24 21:56 |
schestowitz | http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Off-the-Beat-Bruce-Byfield-s-Blog/Mono-A-modest-proposal http://sinaisix.blogspot.com/2009/09/free-and-open-source-software-dogmatism.html http://shanefagan.com/2009/09/23/fsf/ | Sep 24 21:57 |
schestowitz | Laggy or confused? | Sep 24 21:57 |
schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/24/hp_communitylinux_dot_org/ | Sep 24 21:57 |
phIRCe | Title: HP launches Linux-fiddling support group • The Register .::. Size~: 24 KB | Sep 24 21:57 |
schestowitz | http://www.crn.com/software/220100969;jsessionid=5POI32ZDO3YGLQE1GHPSKHWATMY32JVN | Sep 24 21:58 |
phIRCe | Title: Red Hat Numbers Show Linux Has Staying Power - The Chart - IT Channel News And Views by CRN and VARBusiness .::. Size~: 37.29 KB | Sep 24 21:58 |
trmanco | both | Sep 24 21:58 |
trmanco | it stop reading after finding a link | Sep 24 21:58 |
trmanco | stops* | Sep 24 21:58 |
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trmanco | http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3840776/ | Sep 24 22:03 |
phIRCe | Title: Red Hat: Linux Pays Off - And Isn't Bloated - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 147.66 KB | Sep 24 22:03 |
trmanco | http://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2009/09/big-win-for-gnu-gpl-in-france.html | Sep 24 22:04 |
phIRCe | Title: open...: Big Win for GNU GPL in France .::. Size~: 117.22 KB | Sep 24 22:04 |
schestowitz | http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wireless-t61.html | Sep 24 22:04 |
schestowitz | This guy has excellent articles | Sep 24 22:04 |
trmanco | http://lserinol.blogspot.com/2009/09/io-usage-per-process-on-linux.html | Sep 24 22:05 |
phIRCe | Title: Levent Serinol's Blog: I/O usage per process on Linux .::. Size~: 97.12 KB | Sep 24 22:05 |
schestowitz | What's the importance? | Sep 24 22:09 |
trmanco | which link? | Sep 24 22:10 |
schestowitz | Last one | Sep 24 22:11 |
trmanco | good for sysadmins | Sep 24 22:11 |
schestowitz | Seems like a utility test that's too simply to conclude so much from | Sep 24 22:11 |
schestowitz | Thought it was related to "bloat' | Sep 24 22:11 |
trmanco | no | Sep 24 22:11 |
trmanco | it's not related | Sep 24 22:11 |
trmanco | http://ostatic.com/blog/five-resources-for-open-source-fonts | Sep 24 22:12 |
phIRCe | Title: Five Resources for Open Source Fonts .::. Size~: 28.33 KB | Sep 24 22:12 |
trmanco | "Microsoft responded to the release of Chrome Frame by claiming that Google's new plugin makes IE 8 less secure. In a comment made to Ars Technica, Microsoft said that installing the plugin "is not a risk we would recommend our friends and families take." | Sep 24 22:15 |
trmanco | translation: don't use the plugin because you are going to wreck our business | Sep 24 22:16 |
schestowitz | trmanco: I saw that | Sep 24 22:19 |
schestowitz | Was just about to post it to COLA | Sep 24 22:19 |
schestowitz | Let's see what's new there | Sep 24 22:19 |
schestowitz | trmanco: remember their Firefox plugin | Sep 24 22:19 |
trmanco | nothing worth reading | Sep 24 22:19 |
trmanco | I don't | Sep 24 22:19 |
schestowitz | .NET stealth install... WIndows Update | Sep 24 22:20 |
trmanco | what FF plugin? | Sep 24 22:20 |
schestowitz | People forgot about that | Sep 24 22:20 |
trmanco | ah that crap | Sep 24 22:20 |
schestowitz | You don't remember? | Sep 24 22:20 |
schestowitz | Yes | Sep 24 22:20 |
schestowitz | I have some posts about it | Sep 24 22:20 |
schestowitz | Will write in the morning..... | Sep 24 22:20 |
trmanco | it appended the ".NET CLR VERSION" to your user agent string | Sep 24 22:20 |
trmanco | so your are insinuating that they are going to backdoor a plugin into IE so that it blacklists the chrome frame from being installed? | Sep 24 22:21 |
cubezzz | seems simpler just to not use IE at all | Sep 24 22:26 |
trmanco | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/marketing-list/2009-September/msg00102.html | Sep 24 22:26 |
trmanco | well, say that to the Lusers that use IE to break the web | Sep 24 22:26 |
trmanco | I'm sure they won't listen :-P | Sep 24 22:26 |
cubezzz | some do, some don't | Sep 24 22:27 |
trmanco | yes true | Sep 24 22:28 |
*PetoKraus has quit ("Leaving") | Sep 24 22:28 | |
trmanco | but stubborn people exist | Sep 24 22:28 |
MinceR | http://apple.slashdot.org/story/09/09/23/015204/USB-IF-Slaps-Palm-In-iTunes-Spat?from=rss | Sep 24 22:28 |
phIRCe | Title: Slashdot Apple Story | USB-IF Slaps Palm In iTunes Spat .::. Size~: 191.7 KB | Sep 24 22:29 |
MinceR | usb-if fights for crApple | Sep 24 22:29 |
MinceR | and lock-in | Sep 24 22:29 |
trmanco | http://www.tuxradar.com/learnqt | Sep 24 22:30 |
phIRCe | Title: Learn Qt programming with our free tutorials | TuxRadar .::. Size~: 15.56 KB | Sep 24 22:30 |
trmanco | http://www.tuxradar.com/content/code-project-create-qt-rss-reader | Sep 24 22:30 |
phIRCe | Title: Code Project: create a Qt RSS reader | TuxRadar .::. Size~: 34.62 KB | Sep 24 22:30 |
trmanco | finally something useful | Sep 24 22:30 |
cubezzz | Sharp could have done a better job supporting Zaurus | Sep 24 22:31 |
cubezzz | but there's enough code out there, so no biggie | Sep 24 22:31 |
schestowitz | Yes, I saw these qt atticles | Sep 24 22:31 |
cubezzz | I'm still trying to find the code for file, or what package it's in | Sep 24 22:33 |
cubezzz | it doesn't seem to be gnu | Sep 24 22:33 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Peoplee worry about the Google Books settlement because Google Books is so stupendously brilliant http://is.gd/3DJjY | Sep 24 22:35 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Bloomberg Chooses #GNU #Linux for Calculations http://bit.ly/kAqAQ | Sep 24 22:35 | |
phIRCe | Title: A Writer’s Plea: Figure Out How to Preserve Google Books | Epicenter | Wired.com .::. Size~: 83.02 KB | Sep 24 22:35 |
trmanco | http://www.linux.com/news/featured-blogs/168-brian-proffitt/79395-linuxcon-shuttleworths-three-methods-to-improve-foss-d | Sep 24 22:36 |
phIRCe | Title: LinuxCon: Shuttleworth's Three Methods to Improve FOSS Development .::. Size~: 41.71 KB | Sep 24 22:36 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Desktop #GNU #Linux Passes Test for Another New User http://www.opensource.org/node/469 | Sep 24 22:36 | |
phIRCe | Title: Linux is now good enough for many end users | Open Source Initiative .::. Size~: 12.04 KB | Sep 24 22:36 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Many Old Computers Silently Migrated to #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/TOmof http://bit.ly/3EtA7b | Sep 24 22:38 | |
phIRCe | Title: Free Geek: Donate Old Computers, Volunteer for a Free Computer .::. Size~: 25.06 KB | Sep 24 22:38 |
schestowitz | Nice. | Sep 24 22:39 |
schestowitz | The bot augments these | Sep 24 22:39 |
trmanco | http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/09/24/microsoft-launches-website-spark-hopes-web-devs-will-take-candy/ | Sep 24 22:40 |
phIRCe | Title: Microsoft launches Website Spark, hopes web devs will take candy from strangers .::. Size~: 79.26 KB | Sep 24 22:40 |
schestowitz | DumpSpark | Sep 24 22:42 |
schestowitz | Another one of thr seire | Sep 24 22:42 |
schestowitz | Biz and Dream | Sep 24 22:42 |
schestowitz | They are desparate | Sep 24 22:42 |
schestowitz | And they make no money from this | Sep 24 22:43 |
schestowitz | They hope for more lockin | Sep 24 22:43 |
schestowitz | I saw it earlier and was gonna write about it tomorrow | Sep 24 22:43 |
schestowitz | THe editor of DownloadSquad doesn't like me, but he follows me in Twitter | Sep 24 22:43 |
trmanco | http://lifehacker.com/5366841/gmail-slow-or-down-for-some-imap-still-working | Sep 24 22:44 |
phIRCe | Title: Gmail Slow or Down for Some, IMAP Still Working - Gmail - Lifehacker .::. Size~: 60.28 KB | Sep 24 22:44 |
trmanco | finally | Sep 24 22:44 |
trmanco | "IMAP still working" | Sep 24 22:44 |
schestowitz | "@silner absolutely. I quite like her. Masnick hopefully helped her see the other side of things, politely." | Sep 24 22:47 |
schestowitz | gmail.. meh. | Sep 24 22:47 |
schestowitz | g-meh-il | Sep 24 22:47 |
schestowitz | Let the Big Google handle your comms | Sep 24 22:48 |
schestowitz | Because knowing what you visit and search for is not enough | Sep 24 22:48 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Network Security Toolkit for #Linux Release http://bit.ly/EO6eO | Sep 24 22:49 | |
phIRCe | Title: Network Security Toolkit 2.11.0 Is Based on the 2.6.30.5 Linux Kernel - The operating system is now using RPM packages - Softpedia .::. Size~: 49.35 KB | Sep 24 22:49 |
trmanco | "When someone fixes your crap for you, you thank them. And Google Chrome Frame is basically a copy of Chrome, sans, er... the chrome. It uses the same automatic, silent update system as Chrome. Any security flaws can literally be fixed for all users within 24 hours. You have no argument left Microsoft. Get your act together and instead of scaremongering, fix your crap." | Sep 24 22:49 |
trmanco | "Microsoft got one thing right - I would never, ever recommend any of my friends and family to use IE. Using IE is the worst fate, that even my enemy should be spared from." | Sep 24 22:50 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux to Boot via the Internet http://bit.ly/Vm6aQ | Sep 24 22:52 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A Look at #OpenOffice.org for Kids ( #OOo4kids ) http://bit.ly/dEdWn | Sep 24 22:54 | |
phIRCe | Title: OOo4kids: Special Version for Kids « Saigkill's Backtrace .::. Size~: 37.95 KB | Sep 24 22:54 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Early Reviews of #GNOME 2.28 http://bit.ly/IzyRa http://bit.ly/Xl4H8 http://bit.ly/LRBeO | Sep 24 22:58 | |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #PuppyLinux 4.3 Seen as a Good Replacement for Windows http://bit.ly/19onTq | Sep 24 23:00 | |
phIRCe | Title: Linux 2u: Puppy Linux 4.3 -Linux 2u .::. Size~: 80.52 KB | Sep 24 23:00 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mandriva Organises a Contest for All to Participate in http://bit.ly/qJ3uD | Sep 24 23:01 | |
phIRCe | Title: The Official Mandriva Blog » Blog Archive » Moovida Media Center Development Contest .::. Size~: 24.68 KB | Sep 24 23:01 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Despite Economic Depression, #Linux Celebrates Massive Growth (Red Hat Family) http://bit.ly/BJXSA | Sep 24 23:07 | |
phIRCe | Title: Linux News: Financial News: Red Hat Rises on Rosy Q2 Results .::. Size~: 46.76 KB | Sep 24 23:07 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #RedHat Says #Linux is Thin http://bit.ly/xdn8d | Sep 24 23:09 | |
phIRCe | Title: Red Hat: Linux Pays Off - And Isn't Bloated - InternetNews.com .::. Size~: 147.66 KB | Sep 24 23:09 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Zenwalk and Its New Fork #Salix Both Reviewed, Work Well http://bit.ly/3SOuyS http://bit.ly/pvXw3 | Sep 24 23:10 | |
phIRCe | Title: Zenwalk 6.2 Review — LinuxBSDos.com .::. Size~: 54.93 KB | Sep 24 23:10 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux to Offer #Hardware Compatibility Checker http://bit.ly/2LC4um | Sep 24 23:12 | |
phIRCe | Title: Will Ubuntu 9.10 Work With My PC? | WorksWithU .::. Size~: 54.14 KB | Sep 24 23:12 |
*desu_ is now known as desu | Sep 24 23:14 | |
trmanco | :) | Sep 24 23:14 |
trmanco | I just made an improvement | Sep 24 23:15 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Boots Fast in #Ubuntu http://bit.ly/7ePQV , Shuttleworth Pitches Development http://bit.ly/1XTalF | Sep 24 23:17 | |
phIRCe | Title: Booting up Ubuntu in five seconds flat on an SSD - FierceCIO:TechWatch .::. Size~: 35.42 KB | Sep 24 23:17 |
trmanco | !quit phIRCe | Sep 24 23:18 |
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trmanco | [Notice] -BNc to #boycottnovell- [schestowitz] #GNU #Linux Boots Fast in #Ubuntu http://bit.ly/7ePQV , Shuttleworth Pitches Development http://bit.ly/1XTalF | Sep 24 23:18 |
phIRCe_ | Title: Booting up Ubuntu in five seconds flat on an SSD - FierceCIO:TechWatch .::. Size~: 35.42 KB | Sep 24 23:18 |
phIRCe_ | Title: LinuxCon: Shuttleworth's Three Methods to Improve FOSS Development .::. Size~: 41.71 KB | Sep 24 23:18 |
trmanco | :) | Sep 24 23:18 |
trmanco | ooops | Sep 24 23:19 |
trmanco | forgot to change something | Sep 24 23:19 |
trmanco | !quit phIRCe_ | Sep 24 23:19 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Linux -powered Phones Come to the #UK http://bit.ly/P6vvw http://bit.ly/XSYo2 | Sep 24 23:27 | |
phIRCe | Title: O2 confirms UK Pré launch date • Register Hardware .::. Size~: 19.8 KB | Sep 24 23:27 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Android #Linux Turns One, http://bit.ly/119Y6S | Sep 24 23:28 | |
phIRCe | Title: Far EasTone raises Android plans on Gphone anniversary - LinuxWorld .::. Size~: 36.81 KB | Sep 24 23:28 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] 10 Seconds Guide to Bash Shell Scripting: http://is.gd/3DLSB | Sep 24 23:29 | |
phIRCe | Title: All about Linux: 10 Seconds Guide to Bash Shell Scripting .::. Size~: 94.43 KB | Sep 24 23:29 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Study from #Coverity Shows That #FreeSoftware Rapidly Improves http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/145832 http://bit.ly/Ws8gy | Sep 24 23:30 | |
phIRCe | Title: Study shows open-source code quality improving - LinuxWorld .::. Size~: 35.62 KB | Sep 24 23:30 |
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trmanco | http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2009/092309-study-shows-open-source-code-quality.html?fsrc=rss-linux-news | Sep 24 23:33 |
phIRCe | Title: Study shows open-source code quality improving - LinuxWorld .::. Size~: 35.62 KB | Sep 24 23:33 |
trmanco | meh | Sep 24 23:33 |
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trmanco | it didn't pick up the second url | Sep 24 23:34 |
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-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Thunderbird 3 Beta 4 is Reached, Reviewed http://bit.ly/1XnCtA http://bit.ly/oCjSF My favourite | Sep 24 23:36 | |
phIRCe | Title: Mozilla cracks on with fourth Thunderbird 3 beta • The Register .::. Size~: 21.9 KB | Sep 24 23:36 |
phIRCe | Title: Hands-on: Thunderbird 3 beta 4 hatches with improved search - Ars Technica .::. Size~: 48.49 KB | Sep 24 23:36 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gnash 0.8.6 is Officially Released http://www.gnashdev.org/?q=node/71 | Sep 24 23:38 | |
phIRCe | Title: Gnash 0.8.6 Released! | Gnash Project .::. Size~: 6.41 KB | Sep 24 23:38 |
trmanco | schestowitz: what do you say if I remove the "title:"? | Sep 24 23:40 |
trmanco | IMO it's just bloat | Sep 24 23:40 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Sun Senior Explains How #FreeSoftware Brings Income http://bit.ly/36iCo | Sep 24 23:40 | |
phIRCe | Title: Mind Your Own Business (Model) [on Simon Phipps, SunMink] .::. Size~: 38.11 KB | Sep 24 23:40 |
schestowitz | "Title" is good | Sep 24 23:40 |
schestowitz | Oh, I catch up now | Sep 24 23:42 |
schestowitz | You handle multiple URLs? | Sep 24 23:42 |
trmanco | yes | Sep 24 23:43 |
trmanco | sometimes | Sep 24 23:43 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FreeSoftware Gets More Exposure Down Under, Reaches to Women http://bit.ly/14cajZ http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Womenscaucus/9.19.2009 | Sep 24 23:44 | |
phIRCe | Title: IT Brief - Free Software advocate to speak at NZCS event .::. Size~: 41.36 KB | Sep 24 23:44 |
trmanco | need some text in the middle | Sep 24 23:45 |
trmanco | http://bit.ly/14cajZ test http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Womenscaucus/9.19.2009 | Sep 24 23:45 |
phIRCe | Title: IT Brief - Free Software advocate to speak at NZCS event .::. Size~: 41.36 KB | Sep 24 23:45 |
trmanco | ah wait | Sep 24 23:46 |
trmanco | Warning: file_get_contents(http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Womenscaucus/9.19.2009): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | Sep 24 23:46 |
trmanco | I need to make it read headers | Sep 24 23:46 |
wallclimber | Just curious, but what is the phIRCe thing about? It seems like automated, incessant non sequiturs. Is it a DaemonFC-bot? | Sep 24 23:46 |
trmanco | no | Sep 24 23:47 |
trmanco | It's "my" bot, I wrote it for fun | Sep 24 23:47 |
wallclimber | how very interesting! | Sep 24 23:47 |
wallclimber | (mildly annoying, yet still interesting... | Sep 24 23:47 |
trmanco | hmmm | Sep 24 23:48 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another Victory to #GPL Licensing http://www.oilandgaseurasia.com/news/p/2/news/5731 #gnu | Sep 24 23:48 | |
wallclimber | what can it do? | Sep 24 23:48 |
trmanco | parse urls | Sep 24 23:48 |
trmanco | control a channel | Sep 24 23:48 |
trmanco | parse urls and say the title/size | Sep 24 23:49 |
trmanco | nothing else for now | Sep 24 23:49 |
wallclimber | for now? what might it do later??? | Sep 24 23:49 |
trmanco | I haven't thought about it | Sep 24 23:50 |
trmanco | oh | Sep 24 23:50 |
trmanco | another feature is kick you if you say a censored word | Sep 24 23:51 |
wallclimber | is there a list of censored words so i can avoid them? :) | Sep 24 23:51 |
wallclimber | ('cuz, I cuss so much, ya know) | Sep 24 23:51 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Sarko Regime in France Treats Copying Files Almost Like Murder http://bit.ly/z5IdA | Sep 24 23:52 | |
phIRCe | Title: France passes tough anti-piracy measure - CNN.com .::. Size~: 72.01 KB | Sep 24 23:52 |
trmanco | it's a small list | Sep 24 23:55 |
wallclimber | That's good. | Sep 24 23:56 |
wallclimber | :) | Sep 24 23:56 |
-BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] World Day Against Software Patents is Today, Just in Time for Meeting of "IP" Sceptics http://bit.ly/aRmyp | Sep 24 23:56 | |
phIRCe | Title: EU bodies to discuss IP barriers to innovation • The Register .::. Size~: 24.36 KB | Sep 24 23:56 |
wallclimber | sooo, I'm supposing you can't tell me the words or you'll get kicked off. | Sep 24 23:57 |
wallclimber | :) | Sep 24 23:57 |
wallclimber | Yes? | Sep 24 23:57 |
trmanco | I can tell you | Sep 24 23:59 |
trmanco | the bot is not oped so there is no problem | Sep 24 23:59 |
wallclimber | I've never been kicked off before...I feel strangely compelled to say bad words... | Sep 24 23:59 |
wallclimber | lol | Sep 24 23:59 |
trmanco | "fuck",,"bitch","fag","shit" | Sep 24 23:59 |
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