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| ziggyfish | that's better | Nov 08 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | Ah! | Nov 08 00:10 |
| schestowitz | You're back. | Nov 08 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Working OK now? | Nov 08 00:10 |
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| schestowitz | Plasma has this tendency to treat displays as separate elements for wallpapers. Some people complained, but it can actually be seen as a feature that did not exist before | Nov 08 00:11 |
| MinceR | imo its per-display wallpapers rule | Nov 08 00:14 |
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| fewa | I like to be able to have a big image streach across many displays | Nov 08 00:17 |
| fewa | KDE doesn't support that | Nov 08 00:17 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yes, I got used to hit | Nov 08 00:17 |
| MinceR | i'd like to disable the crossfade in the slideshow, though | Nov 08 00:17 |
| schestowitz | Old force of habits... and I also have many multi-head wallpapers, so.... | Nov 08 00:18 |
| MinceR | it's so slow on my netbook it sometimes disables compositing | Nov 08 00:18 |
| schestowitz | fewa: kde supported that | Nov 08 00:18 |
| fewa | "ed" | Nov 08 00:18 |
| schestowitz | in version 3.1, mayb earlier even | Nov 08 00:18 |
| MinceR | in the worst case, you could cut it up | Nov 08 00:18 |
| MinceR | unless you want a slideshow, of course | Nov 08 00:18 |
| shreddar | Instead of tabs browsers could do the window scale thing like compiz. | Nov 08 00:18 |
| fewa | its not a big deal | Nov 08 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Slideshow transitions are nice | Nov 08 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Plasma team should make more transition type | Nov 08 00:19 |
| MinceR | not getting a 3-second delay when the system is unusable is nicer | Nov 08 00:19 |
| schestowitz | My monitors run slideshow at 1 per minute | Nov 08 00:20 |
| schestowitz | So plasma is in RAM all the time anyway | Nov 08 00:20 |
| fewa | I have 8GB ram | Nov 08 00:20 |
| fewa | everything is always in ram | Nov 08 00:20 |
| MinceR | my netbook has 2GB RAM and pretty much everything is in RAM | Nov 08 00:21 |
| schestowitz | http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/11/04/bell-telus-provide-new-iphone-competition-in-canada/ | Nov 08 00:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Bell, Telus provide new iPhone competition in Canada RoughlyDrafted Magazine .::. Size~: 37.03 KB | Nov 08 00:21 |
| shreddar | Bookmarks/History would be done in Cover Flow (Safari/iTunes) fashion. | Nov 08 00:21 |
| MinceR | i prefer lists | Nov 08 00:22 |
| ender2070__ | bell and telus arent gsm | Nov 08 00:22 |
| ender2070__ | thats why | Nov 08 00:22 |
| MinceR | in general i prefer functionality to pointless eyecandy :> | Nov 08 00:22 |
| MinceR | also, i'm looking for a usable bookmark manager | Nov 08 00:22 |
| MinceR | could be part of a browser | Nov 08 00:22 |
| MinceR | today i've discovered that firefox backs up into malformed JSON with randomized id-s | Nov 08 00:22 |
| shreddar | Actually now that I think of it I like the Opera Wii way of doing bookmarks more than Cover Flow. | Nov 08 00:23 |
| MinceR | not really fit for synchronizing via Git :/ | Nov 08 00:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-11-06-012-35-OP-CY-MS-0003 | Nov 08 00:23 |
| schestowitz | So true. | Nov 08 00:23 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] When the Republicans #GOP say "jobs" its a euphamism for obscene profits, instead of health care, small businesses, etc #hc | Nov 08 00:23 | |
| shreddar | Cover Flow is too linier. | Nov 08 00:23 |
| ender2070__ | schestowitz - thats probably the only way msft could kill linux, by embracing it and having everyone switch out of disgust | Nov 08 00:25 |
| shreddar | Unlike Opera for Wii browser would have tags. | Nov 08 00:25 |
| schestowitz | "Creating jobs" = big companies employing peons at minimum wage | Nov 08 00:25 |
| MinceR | i also need a hierarchical structure | Nov 08 00:25 |
| MinceR | could be a hierarchy of tags, though | Nov 08 00:25 |
| MinceR | but nobody does that, afaict | Nov 08 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Real jobs are created by people, who start businesses | Nov 08 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Not neo-feudalism | Nov 08 00:25 |
| schestowitz | ender2070__: to bsd? | Nov 08 00:26 |
| MinceR | to gnu/hurd | Nov 08 00:26 |
| schestowitz | ender2070__: it already exists anyway and it's called SLE | Nov 08 00:26 |
| schestowitz | I mostly use bookmarks for videos now | Nov 08 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Searching the Web is sometimes faster than bookmarks | Nov 08 00:27 |
| MinceR | not with the right bookmark management system :> | Nov 08 00:27 |
| schestowitz | Bookmarks are for another era... one of Web directories and bored.com\ | Nov 08 00:27 |
| MinceR | not really | Nov 08 00:27 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: mine I call "history" | Nov 08 00:27 |
| ender2070__ | schestowitz - I meant more like Apple's embrace of BSD | Nov 08 00:28 |
| MinceR | for example, when i'm looking for the lowest price to get some hardware here in Absurdistan, i tend to compose a bookmark folder | Nov 08 00:28 |
| ender2070__ | schestowitz - Windows on top of Linux | Nov 08 00:28 |
| MinceR | i don't see people switching away from bsd in disgust because of what crApple does | Nov 08 00:28 |
| shreddar | I always thought google should do that with chrome. Extend the page preview Dialer thing to a new bookmark manager that would open in it's own tab. | Nov 08 00:28 |
| ender2070__ | bsd people dont care, they want their code used | Nov 08 00:29 |
| MinceR | a bookmark manager webapp would be fine for me, if it had folders and wasn't as slow as SiteBar | Nov 08 00:29 |
| ender2070__ | i was talking with a hint of jest anyways | Nov 08 00:29 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Sinto me cansado... :S secalhar foi de eu nao ter dormido bem a ultima noite... mas nao tenho sono ainda :) | Nov 08 00:30 | |
| shreddar | No I like my bookmarks to be part of the browser or at least integrated with it. | Nov 08 00:30 |
| MinceR | well, having bookmarks in the browser or at least in a gui app has certain advantages | Nov 08 00:31 |
| MinceR | such as being able to select a range of items to operate on | Nov 08 00:31 |
| MinceR | and opening all bookmarks in a folder as tabs | Nov 08 00:32 |
| schestowitz | http://www.raiden.net/articles/over_clocking_intel_i7_on_a_gigabyte_ex58-extreme/ | Nov 08 00:33 |
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| schestowitz | [00:29] <ender2070__> bsd people dont care, they want their code used | Nov 08 00:34 |
| schestowitz | "used" has many meanings | Nov 08 00:34 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Windows 7 the morning after? & Novell has a pulse? http://tinyurl.com/yb668lv #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #novell | Nov 08 00:37 | |
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| ender2070__ | schestowitz - All I meant was that microsoft cant do much to linux to get people to switch from it | Nov 08 00:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20091105006563&newsLang=en | Nov 08 00:39 |
| schestowitz | "-Today, Rob Housman, the Executive Director of the Cyber Secure Institute, put out this statement concerning two disturbing trends in cybersecurity: the growing number of unsupportable security claims and the increasing reliance on widely held beliefs as opposed to tested and proven technologies. " | Nov 08 00:39 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Debunking the Growing Use of Misleading Claims and False Truisms in Cybersecurity: Wind River and Google Android Examples | Business Wire .::. Size~: 59.29 KB | Nov 08 00:39 |
| ender2070__ | wasn't it Wind River that says Linux is the devil? | Nov 08 00:39 |
| shreddar | My whole idea is basically to replace Tabs and Icons with Previews. | Nov 08 00:40 |
| shreddar | I know it can work I just have to figure out what right for each case. | Nov 08 00:41 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: zombies too have a pulse :-) | Nov 08 00:41 |
| schestowitz | ender2070__: maybe ages ago | Nov 08 00:41 |
| ender2070__ | GKH at a linux talk mentioned it | Nov 08 00:42 |
| ender2070__ | lol | Nov 08 00:42 |
| ender2070__ | or was it montevista | Nov 08 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft attacked Linux too | Nov 08 00:42 |
| schestowitz | But nothing has changed. | Nov 08 00:42 |
| schestowitz | !google ballmer fly my pretties | Nov 08 00:42 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - MacDailyNews - Microsoft offers Windows 7 'Steve Ballmer' edition ... | http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/22621/ | Nov 08 00:42 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Swear words - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia | http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Swear_words | Nov 08 00:42 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: September 12th, 2009 | http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/irc-log-12092009.html | Nov 08 00:42 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - The Blog of Dave5 » Site Map | http://www.saintzeno.com/blog/sitemap | Nov 08 00:42 |
| shreddar | I think it would be cool to have bookmarks/history show up in both a side panel and new tab (not at the same time though). | Nov 08 00:43 |
| ender2070__ | im not quoting exactly, but GHK basicly said something like "Even Wind River contributes more than Canonical, and they said Linux is the devil" | Nov 08 00:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-11-07-006-35-MM-HW-0000 http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2009-11-07-006-35-MM-HW-0003 | Nov 08 00:44 |
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| shreddar | The side panel would be convenient for when you want to stay on the current page but still open links in new tabs. | Nov 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | ender2070__: foolish comparison | Nov 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | He's being thick | Nov 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | WInd RIver is all about kernel stuff | Nov 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | performance and hardware | Nov 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Canonical makes desktops for the most part. | Nov 08 00:45 |
| schestowitz | I.e. applications and integration of many of them | Nov 08 00:46 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: really? I thought thats why you had to cut their heads off....no pulse...no heart beat..... | Nov 08 00:46 |
| schestowitz | NOVL makes $$ from servers | Nov 08 00:46 |
| _goblin | Windows 7 Venice edition - It may look pretty but its slowly sinking. | Nov 08 00:47 |
| schestowitz | http://archlinux.me/dusty/2009/11/06/all-that-self-publishing-stuff-ive-looked-into/?referrer=http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com | Nov 08 00:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dusty's Diverse Domain » Blog Archive » All that self-publishing stuff Ive looked into .::. Size~: 26.25 KB | Nov 08 00:48 |
| shreddar | I don't know how 7 looks but i bet my Sabayon Gnome + Compiz looks better. | Nov 08 00:48 |
| shreddar | I had to mettion it. | Nov 08 00:48 |
| shreddar | It's just so awesome. | Nov 08 00:48 |
| shreddar | I never thought that the whole cube desktop thing was useful but I kinda is. | Nov 08 00:49 |
| MinceR | i prefer the desktop wall/grid | Nov 08 00:50 |
| MinceR | on compiz, i use a 5x5 grid; on kde4, i use a 4x4 grid | Nov 08 00:50 |
| MinceR | (kde is limited to 20 desktops) | Nov 08 00:51 |
| shreddar | I'm just using the standard 4 desktops I don't think I can handle too many more. | Nov 08 00:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @singlepayer Over the course of 48 hrs, we lost the #Kucinich amendmnt, #Wiener amendmnt, and a lot of trust in promises from DC #p2 #hc | Nov 08 00:52 | |
| ender2070__ | schestowitz - he was talking about kernel contributes | Nov 08 00:52 |
| _goblin | now youve bigged it up shreddar you got a screenshot of it? | Nov 08 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Maybe SCOvell can just knock each other out until both run out of cash......http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=A095D7CF-1A64-6A71-CE8B0F4FB3BF2A7E | Nov 08 00:55 |
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| shreddar | http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2503/screenshotzf.png | Nov 08 00:56 |
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| schestowitz | ender2070__: I know | Nov 08 00:58 |
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| _goblin | not bad....you earn xtra credit for Chromium....wheres your cube? wheres the gears?!?! joking of course.... | Nov 08 01:00 |
| schestowitz | http://locusmeus.com/aww/who-is-who-archive.html .. | Nov 08 01:02 |
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| _goblin | shreddar: here comes mine | Nov 08 01:02 |
| schestowitz | http://locusmeus.com/aww/norman-l-deforest.html | Nov 08 01:02 |
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| schestowitz | Ah, found it... http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~af380/Profile.html | Nov 08 01:03 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] http://twitpic.com/oox2z - New v old...Gnome/Compiz + Sinclair Research LTD....yep its retro speccy emu! | Nov 08 01:03 | |
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| oiaohm | http://lists.opendocsociety.org/pipermail/officeshots/2009-November/000085.html http://officeshots.org/ Notice something missing MS Office | Nov 08 01:08 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8333194.stm | Nov 08 01:09 |
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| shreddar | Hey, how'd you get a screenshot when it was like that? | Nov 08 01:09 |
| shreddar | _goblin | Nov 08 01:09 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: their licence must have expired | Nov 08 01:09 |
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| _goblin | yo. | Nov 08 01:14 |
| _goblin | ah simple put a delay on the screengrabber | Nov 08 01:14 |
| _goblin | 5 secs is usually enough to get in the right position. | Nov 08 01:15 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/security/83917/an-important-linux-fix | Nov 08 01:15 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: import -delay 5000 | Nov 08 01:15 |
| schestowitz | needs imagemagick installed | Nov 08 01:15 |
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| shreddar | I just noticed the other photos. You're using Compiz+KDE. Hows that been working on it? | Nov 08 01:18 |
| _goblin | very well | Nov 08 01:21 |
| _goblin | no issues at all. | Nov 08 01:21 |
| _goblin | and also using Nautlius | Nov 08 01:21 |
| _goblin | since I was used to it from Gnome & 8.04LTS | Nov 08 01:22 |
| _goblin | right, Im off to bed... | Nov 08 01:23 |
| _goblin | night | Nov 08 01:23 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] A Periodic Table (PIC): http://digg.com/d318cVz?t | Nov 08 01:23 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @sarahlee310  : Military base with nuclear weapons base infiltrated by five grannies http://bit.ly/gC39r #p2 | Nov 08 01:26 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Rep. John Tierney GOP causes race to the bottom, same number uninsured, same excessive costs. #hc | Nov 08 01:34 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Swine Flu Mortality (Infographic): http://digg.com/d318WRj?t | Nov 08 01:36 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right thats me done for the night....my new article will wait until tomorrow...Good night to all...especially those in the BN IRC chat room! | Nov 08 01:37 | |
| shreddar | sleep well | Nov 08 01:38 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, my mom got robbed on a train in France by some illegal Romanian immigrants | Nov 08 01:40 |
| DaemonFC | two of the other passengers, an American man and a French man chased after the thieves and caught one by the jacket, but his friends slashed the French guy's hand with a knife and got away | Nov 08 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | all they could grab was his jacket | Nov 08 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | apparently Romanians are to France as Mexicans are to the US | Nov 08 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | watch your back if you get on a train there | Nov 08 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | France can't get rid of them because the illegals are on the 3rd generation now and they can't deport them | Nov 08 01:42 |
| ender2070__ | then they arent illegal right? | Nov 08 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | they can't be French citizens and they can't be deported | Nov 08 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | so they live under bridges and rob tourists | Nov 08 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070, They're kind of in a gray area apparently. Not there legally, but France can't get rid of them | Nov 08 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | they're being overran by these assholes | Nov 08 01:43 |
| schestowitz | gn | Nov 08 01:43 |
| DaemonFC | I feel so sorry for the French, having to deal with that | Nov 08 01:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Newspaper Ad from a different perspective [Pic]: http://digg.com/d318pGc?t | Nov 08 01:44 | |
| DaemonFC | apparently the problems are widespread and even though tourists are the most common victims, they steal from the French too | Nov 08 01:44 |
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| ender2070__ | hmmm | Nov 08 01:44 |
| ender2070__ | all I have to worry about in Canada is americans | Nov 08 01:45 |
| ender2070__ | rofl j/k | Nov 08 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070, All we have to worry about is Canadians coming here and spreading the Hockey Hair virus | Nov 08 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Nov 08 01:45 |
| DaemonFC | it's a much nicer problem to have than Mexicans coming here with all kinds of diseases | Nov 08 01:46 |
| DaemonFC | at least Hockey Hair can be shaved off, right? | Nov 08 01:46 |
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| ender2070__ | LOL | Nov 08 01:46 |
| oiaohm | And that disease problem is party USA fault DaemonFC | Nov 08 01:46 |
| ender2070__ | DaemonFC - just visit canada and get a cure for free | Nov 08 01:47 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070, Maple syrup is the only cure for Hockey Hair | Nov 08 01:47 |
| oiaohm | So it seams like natural justise to mean support patents on drugs and fight third world producing drugs cheep have infected people accross boarder sound perfectly fair to me. | Nov 08 01:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @singleplayer Do these #GOP'rs actually know the difference between MEDICARE ADV and MEDICARE? Do they understand ANYthing about insurnc? | Nov 08 01:48 | |
| ender2070__ | DaemonFC - Canadian beer works too | Nov 08 01:54 |
| DaemonFC | Don't touch the stuff | Nov 08 01:54 |
| cubezzz | Hockey seems to be pretty big in the US now | Nov 08 02:06 |
| cubezzz | but hockey in Arizona seems odd | Nov 08 02:07 |
| cubezzz | I don't drink either | Nov 08 02:09 |
| cubezzz | when I do go to the states some guys are always asking me if I drink Molson Canadian :) | Nov 08 02:09 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] New !fedora !emacs addons packaging guidelines need to look into it : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/EmacsPackagingRevised | Nov 08 02:13 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Weiner: Republicans against social security, medicare and against health refm now 55 Republicans take medicare, but oppose it for public #hc | Nov 08 02:21 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @singlepayer Wish could get behind Weiner like did before…wish he would walk his talk… #hc #hr1826 Public financing of public elections | Nov 08 02:28 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Is Boehner's hair real? Looks a little like the hair on a Ken doll - is it a weave or what? #p2 His face looks as brown as a bronze statue | Nov 08 02:38 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] T @salleegal @ahuntre @sherriwilson : dont adjust yr monitors... Its just the Boehner. / I turn off the color & he still looks orange|#tang | Nov 08 02:39 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Managing editor of Forbes @FromCarl participates in GOP lies about #hcr http://ur1.ca/fcw5 | Nov 08 02:47 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @SpiritualNubian Bring it Rep. John Dingell #healthcare #hcr Voted for Medicare 40 years ago | Nov 08 02:56 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Rep. John Dingell gets standing ovation #hcr #healthcare | Nov 08 03:00 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ep. John Dingell gets standing ovation #hcr #healthcare Chaired passage of Medicare 1965 | Nov 08 03:03 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Holy shit Stupak passes #hcr #healthcare Massive affront of right to have an abortion at ones choice | Nov 08 03:23 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Stupak amendment passes http://ur1.ca/fcxn WTF | Nov 08 03:27 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] As close to overturning Roe v Wade as you can get #women #hcr #healthcare No plans will cover abortion http://ur1.ca/fcxn | Nov 08 03:33 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] As close to overturning Roe v Wade as you can get #women #hcr #healthcare Ghettoization of health insurance http://ur1.ca/fcxn | Nov 08 03:34 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @sickjew Everyone calling into CSPAN against the bill seems to be 20-25 yrs old with little experience w/ the atrocities of american #hcr | Nov 08 03:39 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @singlepayer I AM A MEDICARE ADV RECIPIENT & worked for the INSURANCE COMPANIES - THIS IS LYING BULLSHIT this crap re MedAdv #healthcare | Nov 08 03:43 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @singlepayer THEY KILLED OUR SPYR AMDMENTS in the name of passing a piece of shit #hc bill & now they r dumping women overboard as well | Nov 08 03:44 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Which dems voted for Stupak? Who has vote? #hcr | Nov 08 03:45 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Steny Hoyer: Republics proposed bills, Sustek, without ability for Americans to read them. http://readthebill.org/ #hcr #healthcare | Nov 08 03:47 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @sarahlee310 Sounds like Parliament in the House. #p2 #hcr Agreed, rare in the House | Nov 08 03:52 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Which republican was that? #hcr #healthcare | Nov 08 04:15 | |
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| yuhong | I just posted a comment: | Nov 08 04:22 |
| yuhong | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/06/ishellbrowser-marvel-and-capone/comment-page-1/#comment-75290 | Nov 08 04:22 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Now onto the Senate. Words of James Madison "ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority" #hcr | Nov 08 04:36 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I earned the Surfer sticker on #GetGlue! http://bit.ly/jM1Kn | Nov 08 04:44 | |
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| cubezzz | quiet in here tonight | Nov 08 04:47 |
| cubezzz | not always clear what parts of GNU/Linux are GNU | Nov 08 04:50 |
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| cubezzz | I seem to remember this law, or rule... | Nov 08 04:58 |
| cubezzz | about manufacturers supporting stuff for 10 years after the date of manufacture | Nov 08 04:58 |
| cubezzz | that certainly isn't the case a lot of the time, and definitely not with software | Nov 08 05:00 |
| cubezzz | there's no certainty | Nov 08 05:02 |
| cubezzz | any business can fail | Nov 08 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, US law used to say that in the case of a business failing, they had to contract replacement parts and tech support out to another company | Nov 08 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | it's what happened when Packard Bell went under | Nov 08 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | it's not as much of an issue anymore as very few PCs require non-standard parts | Nov 08 05:10 |
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| cubezzz | for computers yes | Nov 08 05:28 |
| cubezzz | not sure about SGI though | Nov 08 05:28 |
| cubezzz | wow, whois is doing some weird things when you don't have a jwhois.conf | Nov 08 05:38 |
| cubezzz | this may be worth reading: | Nov 08 05:38 |
| cubezzz | http://www.vizworld.com/2009/04/what-led-to-the-fall-of-sgi-chapter-1/ | Nov 08 05:38 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: What led to The Fall of SGI? Chapter 1 | VizWorld.com .::. Size~: 81.24 KB | Nov 08 05:38 |
| cubezzz | this is a certain appeal to compiling everything yourself | Nov 08 05:40 |
| cubezzz | just ported jwhois to zaurus | Nov 08 05:40 |
| cubezzz | there is | Nov 08 05:40 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9yfMdNC6cQ | Nov 08 05:51 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @rkref : [wingnuts] talking about leaving America if Senate passes HCR. // Um, do they know other countries have govt healthcare? #p2 | Nov 08 05:56 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @sarahlee310 Daily Kos: Today I yelled at a Rep: My talk w/Cong. Massa about HCR http://bit.ly/3zuZFI #p2 VERY GOOD | Nov 08 06:00 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @sarahlee310  Daily Kos: Today I yelled at a Rep: My talk w/Cong. @EricMassa about HCR http://bit.ly/3zuZFI #p2 VERY GOOD | Nov 08 06:01 | |
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| DaemonFC | "If Dick Cheney had ever gone into the service, he never would have had that [hunting] accident and shot that guy. There's no such thing as an accident with a weapon, there's 'don't know what you're doing'" -Jesse Ventura | Nov 08 06:03 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Same @EricMassa that boldly called for an end to the #war in #Afghanistan http://ur1.ca/f8ft #p2 | Nov 08 06:05 | |
| oiaohm | Not exactly true DaemonFC. There is such thing as weapons firing themselves due to slightly defective ammo and human error god darn brain wiring up wrong. Like people slaming on the accelerator instead of the break. They knew what they were wanting to do but brain skipped step. | Nov 08 06:07 |
| oiaohm | Reason why light triggers on guns are highly dangous you don't have time to correct from brain screwup. | Nov 08 06:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Kucinich: Why I voted NO http://ur1.ca/fd2p #hcr #sickforprofit #singlepayer #healthcare | Nov 08 06:11 | |
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| DaemonFC | Kucinich is like the liberal left's answer to Michelle Bachman | Nov 08 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | it's just too much to even care about | Nov 08 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | he can go burn in a fire now, to borrow a phrase from MinceR, cause it's passed the house | Nov 08 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | we don't need him | Nov 08 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | he doesn't matter anymore | Nov 08 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Nov 08 06:29 |
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| fewa | DaemonFC, did you read his statement? | Nov 08 06:47 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, or read the health bill? | Nov 08 06:47 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, or are you just talking out of your asshole | Nov 08 06:47 |
| DaemonFC | fewa, Anyone who opposes it loses my vote | Nov 08 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | permanently | Nov 08 06:48 |
| fewa | <cubezzz> not always clear what parts of GNU/Linux are GNU | Nov 08 06:48 |
| DaemonFC | he's not representing my district thankfully | Nov 08 06:48 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, have you read the bill? | Nov 08 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | I can only imagine the crackheads that must have sent him to congress | Nov 08 06:49 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, have you read his statement? | Nov 08 06:49 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, or are you just being the typical bigot you always are? | Nov 08 06:49 |
| DaemonFC | fewa, It's like, you have one shot, so you throw out the 80% solution and leave the system just like it is now for 20 more years | Nov 08 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | the guy is an idiot | Nov 08 06:50 |
| fewa | gcc, coreutils, | Nov 08 06:50 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, it passed | Nov 08 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | thankfully | Nov 08 06:50 |
| DaemonFC | which is why he no longer matters | Nov 08 06:50 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, did you watch the order? | Nov 08 06:50 |
| fewa | DaemonFC, Cao voted for it after it passed | Nov 08 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | I'd be pissed if I was one of his constituents | Nov 08 06:51 |
| fewa | (the repub) | Nov 08 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | it would have passed without him | Nov 08 06:51 |
| DaemonFC | it needed 218, that would have left 219 | Nov 08 06:51 |
| fewa | anyways, i'm ignoring you, because, like Republicans, you have no interest in rational discussion | Nov 08 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | he was whinging til the last second | Nov 08 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | wanted to be on the winning side | Nov 08 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | so he rooted for them after they already won | Nov 08 06:52 |
| DaemonFC | not surprising | Nov 08 06:52 |
| fewa | cubezzz, glibc, gcc, make, binutils, coreutils | Nov 08 06:53 |
| fewa | Linux: Linux Kernel, udev, HAL, dbus, ALSA, util-linux-ng, some man pages | Nov 08 06:58 |
| *cubezzz nods | Nov 08 07:07 | |
| cubezzz | I'm porting anything I find useful, but it's a mix of the two | Nov 08 07:07 |
| fewa | posting to what? | Nov 08 07:07 |
| fewa | *porting | Nov 08 07:08 |
| cubezzz | to zaurus | Nov 08 07:09 |
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| fewa | http://www.openbsd.org/zaurus.html | Nov 08 07:20 |
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| cubezzz | fewa, I can't run that on sl-5500 | Nov 08 07:32 |
| cubezzz | some day I'll get a newer zaurus and try it | Nov 08 07:32 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] Anthony Weiner: Energy independance is a matter of national security, pumping oil empowers #Iran #SaudiArabia etc #p2 http://ur1.ca/fd5x | Nov 08 07:35 | |
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| schestowitz | "DOJ friends pay off again? | Nov 08 08:30 |
| schestowitz | "Color me a little sceptical about the ongoing insider trader bust described here: | Nov 08 08:30 |
| schestowitz | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aRqWWXi06f4Y | Nov 08 08:30 |
| schestowitz | "While Intel and Microsoft rape the world with the same and worse crimes, antitrust victims AMD and people financing them are investigated and busted." | Nov 08 08:30 |
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| *tessier is STILL trying to remember the name of that nagios logic programming language | Nov 08 08:35 | |
| tessier | schestowitz: Any way to search the IRC chat archives for "nagios"? | Nov 08 08:36 |
| tessier | Going back a week or two? | Nov 08 08:36 |
| tessier | Actually, google has already picked it up. | Nov 08 08:37 |
| tessier | NodeBrain! | Nov 08 08:37 |
| tessier | That was it | Nov 08 08:37 |
| schestowitz | Sure. | Nov 08 08:37 |
| schestowitz | BTW: | Nov 08 08:37 |
| schestowitz | re Nagios | Nov 08 08:38 |
| schestowitz | I found this last night: | Nov 08 08:38 |
| schestowitz | http://www.adventuresinoss.com/?p=1178 | Nov 08 08:38 |
| schestowitz | "As you can imagine, I’m not excited to see more open core software. Groundwork has raised nearly US$30 million and continues to fail with its open core fork of Nagios, and while I consider Ethan much more capable I think it is a bad move. The popularity of Nagios was driven by its community, and it seems obvious that this community is not happy. Driving another wedge between them by splitting development into open and closed | Nov 08 08:38 |
| schestowitz | versions will not help." | Nov 08 08:38 |
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| tessier | I have been looking for it because I just recently encountered http://www.learnprolognow.org/ | Nov 08 08:39 |
| tessier | Prolog is basically the same thing as NodeBrain but much more popular and better supported. | Nov 08 08:39 |
| schestowitz | tessier: http://boycottnovell.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/irc-log-28102009.html#tOct%2028%2022:00:36 | Nov 08 08:39 |
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| tessier | It is SO bizarre that all of these old programming languages are becomine relevant again (or they always were and I/we just didn't realize it) | Nov 08 08:39 |
| tessier | schestowitz: Thanks! | Nov 08 08:39 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] AP and its content zealotry leads to backlash perhaps? http://ping.fm/ExFRa | Nov 08 09:27 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/stories/2009/11/02/1245d3006dac | Nov 08 09:32 |
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| oiaohm | http://clam-project.org/ Now we have two clam projects clamav and this what is 3d audio calculated real time of 3d space. This currently prototyped with blender game engine. | Nov 08 10:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/gain-space-by-removing-maximized.html | Nov 08 10:09 |
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| schestowitz | Heh... http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/what-to-do-when-keyserverubuntucom-is.html | Nov 08 10:13 |
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| schestowitz | That's mutex, ban-evading | Nov 08 10:13 |
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| oiaohm | Hmm ubuntu must be gaining lot of numbers to be a self dos on a server schestowitz | Nov 08 10:18 |
| schestowitz | Let's hope so... :> | Nov 08 10:20 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: you were right... | Nov 08 10:21 |
| schestowitz | And Vista 7... | Nov 08 10:21 |
| schestowitz | http://brainstormtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2009/11/06/vista-sold-more-pcs-than-windows-7-did/ | Nov 08 10:21 |
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| schestowitz | I will need to do a post about it, maybe tomorrow | Nov 08 10:21 |
| schestowitz | I'm meeting a friend for drinks today... must be sober when writing. | Nov 08 10:21 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: selling box sets don't bode well. | Nov 08 10:31 |
| oiaohm | Main reason user has to install it themselfs and don't have the OEM doing it for therm and getting it right. | Nov 08 10:32 |
| oiaohm | Yep lot more people will find out a windows install is not perfectly straight forward. | Nov 08 10:32 |
| schestowitz | Weird... | Nov 08 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Mutex came, left, came, left | Nov 08 10:52 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: MSFT goes into h/w biz at the moment. Did you see the news re tablet? | Nov 08 10:52 |
| schestowitz | Hardware makes good margins when s/w becomes a commodity | Nov 08 10:53 |
| schestowitz | Apple has always rocked this way; as for Microsoft, it was used to times when any decent OS would cost money | Nov 08 10:53 |
| schestowitz | Now we have Mandriva 2010.0 and other such poweful beasts | Nov 08 10:53 |
| schestowitz | I know businesss that moved to Mandriva and even pay for it | Nov 08 10:54 |
| oiaohm | I did not see news about new tablet from MSFT schestowitz | Nov 08 10:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Looks like Ebuyer have the Acer Aspire Revo in stock again for £150. Nice cheap HD media playback device. http://bit.ly/bliSY #fb. | Nov 08 11:07 | |
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| schestowitz | http://blogs.pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/tux-love/2009/11/hidden_linux_what_the_fsck.html | Nov 08 11:43 |
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| schestowitz | Why so negative on some parts, I wonder... | Nov 08 11:46 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Ouch ouch ouch. http://ping.fm/QFakA | Nov 08 11:50 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] கண்டேன் காதலை! | Nov 08 11:53 | |
| schestowitz | http://norsetto.890m.com/Conky_Weather.php | Nov 08 11:55 |
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| oiaohm | http://toastytech.com/guis/desk.html LOL | Nov 08 12:12 |
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| oiaohm | I have to clean off my 2 desks. | Nov 08 12:12 |
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| schestowitz | fewa: I'm watching http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2009/11/6/philosopher_and_cultural_theorist_slavoj_iek_speaks_at_cooper_union_in_new_york_city at the moment, as you recommended | Nov 08 12:32 |
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| schestowitz | So he says Microsoft is renting... | Nov 08 12:32 |
| schestowitz | [02:59] <fewa> Microsoft is rent 12:00 | Nov 08 12:33 |
| schestowitz | [02:59] <fewa> understands what BillG is doing | Nov 08 12:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:03] <schestowitz> I'll look tomorrow | Nov 08 12:33 |
| schestowitz | [03:04] <fewa> in context of total economy | Nov 08 12:33 |
| schestowitz | [04:09] <fewa> rent is what oil was always about | Nov 08 12:33 |
| schestowitz | But the talk is a little Marxist, ain't it? | Nov 08 12:33 |
| schestowitz | That's an "obscene" thing, like "worker union" | Nov 08 12:34 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Sunday afternoons, made for roast dinner, wine and children playing. | Nov 08 12:39 | |
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| *schestowitz watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A4ycjO37tA&feature=PlayList&p=8197B8DEF93FC7D9&index=1 | Nov 08 12:49 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Almoço... | Nov 08 12:57 | |
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| schestowitz | g2g | Nov 08 13:21 |
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| jose_X | schestowitz et al, http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Software-cos-eye-key-patent-apf-2018569048.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=8&asset=&ccode= | Nov 08 14:38 |
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| jose_X | "Software cos. eye key patent case in Supreme Court" | Nov 08 14:38 |
| jose_X | It just talks about tomorrows SCOTUS Bilski hearing | Nov 08 14:39 |
| jose_X | Most of the article takes the view that software should be patentable and many companies depend on it. It quotes Microsoft and IBM | Nov 08 14:40 |
| jose_X | however, it does state the alternative view and quotes Red Hat | Nov 08 14:40 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Uhoh. Sunday afternoon Brussels Sprouts aftermath incoming! Clear the area! #fb | Nov 08 14:40 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] NotN: Miss England sent off field due to injury http://notnews.today.com/?p=724 | Nov 08 14:41 | |
| jose_X | >> Rob Tiller, assistant general counsel for software company Red Hat Inc., maintains that software patents actually discourage innovation because software developers are at constant risk of infringing on existing patents. Red Hat embraces the open-source movement, which makes software code freely available for anyone to modify, improve and use and is fundamentally at odds with software patents. | Nov 08 14:41 |
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| jose_X | >> At this point, there is no firm consensus on what the test for patentability should be. IBM Corp. says an invention should be eligible if it makes a "technological contribution." Microsoft says an invention should be eligible if it has physical properties or produces a result in the physical world. | Nov 08 14:42 |
| jose_X | >> Whatever test the Supreme Court ultimately settles on, IBM attorney Marian Underweiser hopes it will be flexible and broad. | Nov 08 14:44 |
| jose_X | "The danger is that if the test is too narrow and too specific," she said, "it won't stand the test of time because technology moves so quickly." | Nov 08 14:44 |
| jose_X | To get a long-lasting link to this (Yahoo kills links): | Nov 08 14:45 |
| jose_X | * By Joelle Tessler, AP Technology Writer | Nov 08 14:45 |
| jose_X | * On 12:27 pm EST, Saturday November 7, 2009 | Nov 08 14:45 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Pure and unsullied browser statistics, from a top 5 website http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm | Nov 08 15:19 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] aaaand here's the wikimedia stats for operating systems http://is.gd/4QcgI linux really is 1.5% on the desktop | Nov 08 15:33 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | lol debian is the most popular linux | Nov 08 15:36 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] #fourwordsaftersex Lets do it again! | Nov 08 15:53 | |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | Nov 08 15:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] the first iPhone virus! ... it rickrolls people! http://is.gd/4Qd45 | Nov 08 16:04 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: First iPhone worm discovered - ikee changes wallpaper to Rick Astley photo | Graham Cluley's blog .::. Size~: 30.94 KB | Nov 08 16:04 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] ♻ @LibertyTuga: Puta de nojo Procuro por hand no google images e aparece-me logo estas merdas: http://bit.ly/4eoOaz | http://bit.ly/blbO8 | Nov 08 16:05 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] listening to "Rihanna Wait Your Turn Official Music Video Full HD" ♫ http://blip.fm/~g1tmd | Nov 08 16:10 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Note on http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm - the Opera/9.80 is actually Opera 10 (regexp error) | Nov 08 16:35 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] all the wikimedia stats, btw, are by @infodisiac http://infodisiac.com/ | Nov 08 16:36 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] É bom estar apaixonado, mas por vezes doi tanto :S | Nov 08 16:53 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] i'm writing the notnews already http://is.gd/4QejL | Nov 08 16:56 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Wishing someone would fix the display config tool in Ubuntu to rotate tablet and screen together. http://bit.ly/4rrF4U | Nov 08 17:20 | |
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| schestowitz | OK, back.... | Nov 08 17:24 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EndSoftwarePatents trolled by patent attorneys and the patent establishment http://i5.be/RV | Nov 08 17:44 | |
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| schestowitz | Señor zoobab... turns out the Supremes read Petenly-O | Nov 08 17:47 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Some Numbers About Migrations to #GNU #Linux in# India http://www.flonnet.com/stories/20091120262309200.htm | Nov 08 18:06 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "Give us the money or your homework gets it" #wikipediafundraisingslogans | Nov 08 18:10 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SFLC Discusses the Role of #Android as it Relates to #FreeSoftware http://bit.ly/15FTpg | Nov 08 18:16 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Android/Linux's Future and Advancement of Mobile Software Freedom - SFLC Blog - Software Freedom Law Center .::. Size~: 14.39 KB | Nov 08 18:16 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 3 Ways to Try #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/3UcTSk | Nov 08 18:17 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Multi-Channel #Audio Production in #GNU #linux http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009110700635MMHW | Nov 08 18:19 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - Editor's Note: Making Multi-Channel Firewire Music With Linux .::. Size~: 85.59 KB | Nov 08 18:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft 's Own #Windows Applications Run in #GNU #Linux, #DOS Also http://ur1.ca/fdwm http://ur1.ca/fdwn | Nov 08 18:20 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] U.S. Agrees to Pay $3 Million to Ex-DEA Agent in 15-Year-Old CIA Spying Case http://ur1.ca/fdwk | Nov 08 18:20 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @tamenem U.S. Agrees to Pay $3 Million to Ex-DEA Agent in 15-Year-Old Case in which CIA spied on him, lied to court http://ur1.ca/fdwk | Nov 08 18:22 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New #Audiocasts About #Gnash and GNU/Linux Published http://twit.tv/floss94 http://ur1.ca/fdww | Nov 08 18:23 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE Tidbits http://ur1.ca/fdx1 http://ur1.ca/fdx2 http://ur1.ca/fdx3 http://ur1.ca/fdx4 http://ur1.ca/f702 | Nov 08 18:26 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: With Great Honour, I Present you, Contextual Playlist in Amarok. « Live Blue .::. Size~: 36.09 KB | Nov 08 18:26 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: KDE 4.3 Its ready for the real world | Ben Kevan's Blog .::. Size~: 58.32 KB | Nov 08 18:26 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Short #Review of #Tremulous (Game) for #GNU #Linux http://bit.ly/3xJ3nw | Nov 08 18:27 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] The trouble with the Second Coming http://twitpic.com/oe2jh HT @sciamachy | Nov 08 18:27 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Got Game: Tremulous | TECH SOURCE FROM BOHOL .::. Size~: 96.34 KB | Nov 08 18:27 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "Donate to Wikipedia. There will be cake. http://bit.ly/2cU36O " #wikipediafundraisingslogans | Nov 08 18:29 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] People Love #Mandriva 2010, New Walkthrough http://ur1.ca/fdxa http://ur1.ca/fdxb http://ur1.ca/fdxc | Nov 08 18:29 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: Mandriva Linux 2010 Very Impressive « B Space .::. Size~: 47.44 KB | Nov 08 18:29 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #VMware Might Release Minimalist, Light #GNU #Linux #Distribution http://ur1.ca/fdxi | Nov 08 18:30 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] off to pembury now! | Nov 08 18:31 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Analysis of #RedHat 's #GNU #Linux New #Virtualisation Strategy http://bit.ly/2Pz0MR | Nov 08 18:35 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux 9.10 Goes Head to Head with #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/fdxz http://ur1.ca/fdy0 | Nov 08 18:38 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 .::. Size~: 47.78 KB | Nov 08 18:38 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu # GNU #Linux 9.10 Works Very Well for Many http://ur1.ca/fdy2 http://ur1.ca/fdy3 http://ur1.ca/fdy4 | Nov 08 18:39 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Ubuntu #GNU #Linux Goes International, on Television Also http://www.mdke.org/?p=101 http://ur1.ca/fdy8 | Nov 08 18:41 | |
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| fewa | wheres that case where it was ruled illegal to astroturf? | Nov 08 18:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] I am 79% addicted to Twitter http://su.pr/1b72Ly from the voluptuous @oatmeal | Nov 08 18:51 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @scientes Kucinich: Why I voted NO http://ur1.ca/fd2p #publicoption widdled down 129m->6m WHY? #hcr #sickcare #singlepayer #healthcare | Nov 08 18:55 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] More #Linux Devices Debut http://bit.ly/FcOlZ | Nov 08 18:56 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Myka announces its latest Linux-based 'net top box' | Tech Gear News - Betanews .::. Size~: 24.98 KB | Nov 08 18:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @scientes My talk w/Cong. @EricMassa about #HCR http://ur1.ca/fdz6 Signed for robust #publicoption won't go back on word #singlepayer | Nov 08 18:58 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Daily Kos: State of the Nation .::. Size~: 221.61 KB | Nov 08 18:58 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Phones Spread as #Android , High Demand Seen http://ur1.ca/fdz9 http://ur1.ca/fdza | Nov 08 18:59 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Human Machine Interface PC Runs #Linux http://bit.ly/4ymTZx #hmi | Nov 08 18:59 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Midnight Droid madness in Manhattan | Wireless - CNET News .::. Size~: 134.35 KB | Nov 08 18:59 |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: 10.4-inch HMI PC runs Linux on Atoms - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 60.18 KB | Nov 08 18:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Resurgence of #GNU #Linux in Sub-notebooks is Explained http://ur1.ca/fdzi http://ur1.ca/fdzj | Nov 08 19:01 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ARM on Sub-notebooks Comes from #OLPC, Runs Games http://ur1.ca/fdzl http://ur1.ca/fdzm | Nov 08 19:03 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OLPC switching to ARM, plans paper thin netbook - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 62.73 KB | Nov 08 19:03 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Push for #Freedom and #Openness in #Education http://www.nmc.org/news/nmc/7332 | Nov 08 19:10 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: NMC and UOC Release Call to Action for Open Education | nmc .::. Size~: 21.7 KB | Nov 08 19:10 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Quem quer um bocado de uma ferradura? | Nov 08 19:16 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Workflows and Dependency Maps the #FreeSoftware Way http://bit.ly/PsEAT #gpl | Nov 08 19:18 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SixthSense Source Code Shared http://bit.ly/oicbW | Nov 08 19:18 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] #threewordsaftersex Location Location Location | Nov 08 19:19 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LyX Advocated as Preferred Documents Producer http://bit.ly/2Joi2l | Nov 08 19:20 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The next document I put together will be done with LyX : Greg Laden's Blog .::. Size~: 116.62 KB | Nov 08 19:20 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #FFmpeg Foundation NGO Might be Coming http://bit.ly/2pDmPK | Nov 08 19:21 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Possible Formation of FFmpeg Foundation NGO - Stream #0 .::. Size~: 21.95 KB | Nov 08 19:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @KelseyRitch Ae1 who feels strongly about #HCR should contact their senators now. I did, at least we will know we tried—be less defeatist | Nov 08 19:27 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Versant Turns to the #GPLv3 http://bit.ly/24ebrO | Nov 08 19:27 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #GNU #Hurd is Alive and Progressing http://bit.ly/3XJOty | Nov 08 19:34 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Mozilla Makes More Projects, Claims Great Progress http://ur1.ca/fe73 http://ur1.ca/fe74 | Nov 08 19:35 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #ODF Standard Gets Another Boost http://ur1.ca/fe7d http://ur1.ca/f8jd | Nov 08 19:41 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Steve Ballmer One of the Dirtiest CEOs, Says Greenpeace http://bit.ly/2Fg0nx | Nov 08 19:43 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: How Green are Their CEOs? - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 79.47 KB | Nov 08 19:43 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Internet #Censorship and Web Abuse Still Surging http://ur1.ca/fay1 http://ur1.ca/fe7h | Nov 08 19:44 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Glenn Beck Not Allowed To Rape And Murder An Internet Meme | Techdirt .::. Size~: 61.01 KB | Nov 08 19:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Europe Gives Up on 'Right to Internet' - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 55.25 KB | Nov 08 19:44 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #ACTA Fiasco Still Kept in the Dark http://ur1.ca/fe7k http://ur1.ca/fe7l http://ur1.ca/fe7m http://ur1.ca/fe7n http://ur1.ca/fe7p | Nov 08 19:47 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @Shoq So just for today, let's torque #tcot by calling them... the "Party of Cao." #p2 #hcr | Nov 08 19:47 | |
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| phIRCe-local | Title: The Great ACTA Lie Revealed - Community - ComputerworldUK .::. Size~: 84.05 KB | Nov 08 19:48 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The #PirateBay Wins in Court, Sort of http://ur1.ca/fe7v http://ur1.ca/fe7x | Nov 08 19:48 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Vista7 Too High at TCO Because of Malware Problem http://bit.ly/1BI0uM | Nov 08 19:55 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Are Microsoft to blame for "hidden" malware costs and will Windows 7 make any difference? .::. Size~: 46.46 KB | Nov 08 19:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Even the Terrible #Vista Sold More PCs Than #Vista7 http://ur1.ca/fe8j | Nov 08 19:57 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Biden's Crony for #Hollywood Shows Her Real Face http://techdirt.com/articles/20091106/0214196822.shtml | Nov 08 20:01 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: IP Czar Focused On Protecting Jobs, Not Promoting Progress? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 51.86 KB | Nov 08 20:01 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Patent Site Published Article Against Software Patents http://bit.ly/4qfLGh #swpat | Nov 08 20:04 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Why not filesharing is morally defective behaviour http://is.gd/4Qjh3 | Nov 08 20:04 | |
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| schestowitz | OK, done | Nov 08 20:04 |
| schestowitz | Now let's see what's up with the Vole :-) | Nov 08 20:05 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @wiki_nihiltres "This notice is about giving us money. For other uses, see [[Charitable contribution]]." #WikipediaFundraisingSlogans | Nov 08 20:13 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.softsailor.com/news/10878-microsoft-launches-a-wave-of-xbox-live-bans-to-modded-consoles.html | Nov 08 20:17 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft launches a wave of Xbox Live bans to modded consoles SoftSailor .::. Size~: 51.59 KB | Nov 08 20:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I have to send the linutop back. a*se. it's a great household server and i recommend it to anyone, by the way. http://is.gd/4QjWJ | Nov 08 20:20 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.techspot.com/news/36795-Weekend-tech-reading-DirectX-11-comes-to-Windows-Vista.html | Nov 08 20:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Weekend tech reading: DirectX 11 comes to Windows Vista - TechSpot News .::. Size~: 50.76 KB | Nov 08 20:21 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] RT @eithin This bank account is a stub. You can contribute to Wikipedia by expanding it. #WikipediaFundraisingSlogans | Nov 08 20:23 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] down the pub. people are playing a geek game that makes no fucking sense. i has a laptop. go me! beer good. | Nov 08 20:24 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Endetrle BS: "Why Apple should license Windows 7" | Nov 08 20:27 |
| schestowitz | He's not even trying to hide what he is | Nov 08 20:27 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] DW/LJ: Rubber bullets. http://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/19093.html http://reddragdiva.livejournal.com/532743.html | Nov 08 20:30 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: reddragdiva | Rubber bullets. .::. Size~: 28.78 KB | Nov 08 20:30 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: reddragdiva: Rubber bullets. .::. Size~: 19.63 KB | Nov 08 20:30 |
| schestowitz | This is terrible: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/infotech/software/Microsoft-expects-half-of-new-PCs-to-have-Windows-7-next-one-year/articleshow/5208919.cms | Nov 08 20:33 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft expects half of new PCs to have Windows 7 next one year- Software-Infotech-The Economic Times .::. Size~: 40.27 KB | Nov 08 20:33 |
| schestowitz | On _new_ PCs? | Nov 08 20:33 |
| schestowitz | What will the rest run? Linux? XP? | Nov 08 20:33 |
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| schestowitz | Seinfeld ditches WIndows. http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/22919/ | Nov 08 20:37 |
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| schestowitz | Ha. http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/184131.asp?from=blog_last3 | Nov 08 20:43 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Groups look to buy dying Office Accounting .::. Size~: 59.21 KB | Nov 08 20:43 |
| schestowitz | So not only RazorFish might be sold off | Nov 08 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft parts for sale... clearance | Nov 08 20:43 |
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| fewa | <schestowitz> Microsoft Endetrle BS: "Why Apple should license Windows 7" | Nov 08 20:50 |
| fewa | Wow | Nov 08 20:50 |
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| schestowitz | fewa: hidden message: Vista 7 is so good even Apple Mac users want it | Nov 08 20:55 |
| schestowitz | TG Daily has another Microsoft shill, and people do notice | Nov 08 20:55 |
| fewa | schestowitz, no shit | Nov 08 20:55 |
| fewa | the propaganda is not hidden, it is almost explicit | Nov 08 20:55 |
| fewa | most propaganda is like that | Nov 08 20:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Não me sinto lá muito bem outra vez :S | Nov 08 20:56 | |
| fewa | designed to dull the mind | Nov 08 20:59 |
| schestowitz | American EDGI http://www.rdmag.com/News/FeedsAP/2009/11/information-tech-mo-partners-with-microsoft-for-tech-education/ | Nov 08 20:59 |
| schestowitz | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/01/AR2009110100822.html | Nov 08 21:06 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Forget anything positive I have ever said about #drobo. Forget it all. Don't buy a drobo. #fb | Nov 08 21:07 | |
| schestowitz | What is the connection between Microsoft and Institut économique Molinari? | Nov 08 21:11 |
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| satipera | hello all, http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Novell-Reviews-E1716.htm | Nov 08 21:12 |
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| schestowitz | Canada will leave Linux out of the Olympics...... http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/184144.asp | Nov 08 21:36 |
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| schestowitz | Enderle: In Defense of Steve Ballmer - InternetNews.com | Nov 08 21:41 |
| schestowitz | Sheesh. Don't let people know that Enderle and SteveB are chat buddies.. they swap E-mails | Nov 08 21:42 |
| schestowitz | This one was a matter of time: http://gizmodo.com/5399377/microsoft-cofee-some-of-the-most-illegal-software-you-can-pirate | Nov 08 21:46 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft COFEE, Some of the Most Illegal Software You Can Pirate - Microsoft - Gizmodo .::. Size~: 64.14 KB | Nov 08 21:46 |
| fewa | schestowitz, wow, TPM has all their documents online http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/state-blackwater-audit/?resultpage=7& | Nov 08 21:53 |
| schestowitz | redacted | Nov 08 21:56 |
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| schestowitz | So can Erik et al be put in prison? | Nov 08 21:56 |
| fewa | schestowitz, the redaction is the Government's redaction | Nov 08 21:57 |
| fewa | AFAIK | Nov 08 21:57 |
| fewa | looks like FOIA | Nov 08 21:57 |
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| fewa | (freedom of information act) result | Nov 08 21:58 |
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| _goblin | I f&cking hate wordpress.... | Nov 08 22:08 |
| _goblin | and thats saying alot since I don't normally swear. | Nov 08 22:09 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] RT @singlepayer FACT→ #MEDICARE ADV is NOT "MEDICARE"/Adv→ goes2priv insr which is paid by US Gov to go btw u (Medcr recpnt) & your MD #hcr | Nov 08 22:13 | |
| schestowitz | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10391345-93.html | Nov 08 22:13 |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: I love it | Nov 08 22:14 |
| _goblin | its just deleted part of a very decent post of mine... | Nov 08 22:14 |
| schestowitz | I recommended it to people whom I had coffee with today | Nov 08 22:14 |
| _goblin | lol | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: how come? | Nov 08 22:15 |
| _goblin | coincidence.... | Nov 08 22:15 |
| _goblin | thats what I'm writing about | Nov 08 22:15 |
| _goblin | COFEE | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | hosted locally? | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Heh. | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | No. | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Not COFEE | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | I have a post about it coming | Nov 08 22:15 |
| _goblin | MS COFEE | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | People knew it would leak | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | It's very new in the news | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | Wait until the blitz | Nov 08 22:15 |
| _goblin | Im more on the angle of evidential worth | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | It'll be funny | Nov 08 22:15 |
| _goblin | with a little reference to Hot Fuzz | Nov 08 22:15 |
| schestowitz | People going out and about with USB sticks that back-door Windows | Nov 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | "Quick! Put Linux on it." | Nov 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | This is funny: http://www.enterprisenews.com/business/consumer/x1156079252/On-computers-Microsoft-finally-tackles-viruses-and-its-free | Nov 08 22:16 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: On computers: Microsoft finally tackles viruses — and it's free - Brockton, MA - The Enterprise .::. Size~: 57.78 KB | Nov 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | My uncle mailed me excited | Nov 08 22:16 |
| _goblin | Ballmer "Is that the chief of the LAPD....?...We've got a little trouble at Redmond, can you help us out...?.....remember I did give you that USB stick for free all those years ago...." | Nov 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | They think Microsoft is being generous | Nov 08 22:16 |
| schestowitz | Selling rubbish OS and then offering 'security', separately | Nov 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | People are ignorant | Nov 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | And the press plays alogn with the spin, sadly | Nov 08 22:17 |
| _goblin | an IT inept coppers running about with COFEE USB sticks thinking they are IT experts.......the courts will love that. | Nov 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | Hey, how about if I made 25 posts tomorrow in BN? | Nov 08 22:17 |
| schestowitz | That would almost break a record | Nov 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | 27 is the highest | Nov 08 22:18 |
| _goblin | lol....Mines 4 | Nov 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | I laboured for 2 hours posting on COLA | Nov 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | It's mostly Linux stuff | Nov 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft aside | Nov 08 22:18 |
| schestowitz | This site still pretends not to be just Microsoft PR boost: http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2009/11/retail_experts_call_microsoft_store_strategy_smart_not_shameful.html | Nov 08 22:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Retail experts: Microsoft store strategy smart, not shameful .::. Size~: 49.05 KB | Nov 08 22:20 |
| _goblin | oh roy I forgot to say...... | Nov 08 22:21 |
| _goblin | Jo Shields had a little to say on his Twitter about me. | Nov 08 22:21 |
| _goblin | he seems to draw some sort of inference from me quoting him. | Nov 08 22:21 |
| _goblin | oh and calls me dim....is that dim as in my IQ is low or dim as in anyone who quotes the rubbish he spouts is dim?? | Nov 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/181471/steve_ballmer_wants_to_shout_at_his_tv.html | Nov 08 22:22 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Steve Ballmer Wants to Shout at His TV - Business Center - PC World .::. Size~: 43.13 KB | Nov 08 22:22 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: I guess he stalks BN too | Nov 08 22:22 |
| _goblin | He seemed to what to try and guess what I was implying...... | Nov 08 22:23 |
| _goblin | *want | Nov 08 22:23 |
| schestowitz | BW has a Microsoft recruitment advert: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_46/b4155070821061.htm | Nov 08 22:25 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Return of the House Call - BusinessWeek .::. Size~: 54.49 KB | Nov 08 22:25 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: just ignore them | Nov 08 22:26 |
| _goblin | ah...I should. | Nov 08 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I think Jo just has a crush on Miguel and he's one among that group which defends Novell, Mono and everything "open" Microsoft | Nov 08 22:26 |
| schestowitz | I'm gonna do a post tomorrow about how Microsoft uses this assimilation to hurt FOSS | Nov 08 22:27 |
| _goblin | Jo can't even get as many followers as me (or you) or anyone else here....I wonder what that says about his percieved integrity? | Nov 08 22:27 |
| schestowitz | I'm sure Microsoft UK would offer Jo a job as some "open" dude.... to serve their agenda from inside FOSS | Nov 08 22:27 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft has been hiring and paying all sorts of people/projects in FOSS to get inside the community | Nov 08 22:27 |
| schestowitz | It uses money to divide | Nov 08 22:28 |
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| schestowitz | He is impolite, based on my experience. The Carlin-type follower..... you should spend time writing things that are your convictions, not defending yourself from dissenters like these | Nov 08 22:30 |
| _goblin | The thing is that people like jo don't realize about me is that my FOSS support does not base itself on the FOSS ethos, its merely on the basis that for me FOSS software is far better. They seem to think that I would hold anything the FSF or RMS as a commandment from god...when in truth I make my own mind up based on my own experiences....thats why I believe I am impartial. If Microsoft did not behave in the way its alleged, | Nov 08 22:36 |
| _goblin | then Id have no problem with them, If Microsoft made products that were "fit for purpose" for me, I'd use them.... | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Just got: | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090926131450794 | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | Great article: | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | "Many opponents of patents on software-implemented inventions and | Nov 08 22:36 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Groklaw - The Arguments For Patents for Business Methods and Software-Implemented Inventions - And Some Against .::. Size~: 488.54 KB | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | business method inventions insist that, from an economic and policy | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | perspective, the grant of such patents is unnecessary, at least, and | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | harmful, at worst. Based on our experiences and observations, we suggest | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | that many of the proffered arguments would apply equally to other types | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | of inventions. That is, most of the arguments are not specific to the | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | software-implemented and business method categories of invention. Some | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | arguments may be different in degree, though—e.g., difficulty of finding | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | prior art, ability of a competitor to get a patent on a process used | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | secretly by others for years, lack of examiners with expertise in the | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | subject matter (financial transactions, insurance, etc.) However, our | Nov 08 22:36 |
| schestowitz | experience is that many of the advantages traditionally associated with | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | patents on mechanical devices, chemicals, etc. also apply to patents on | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | business methods and software-implemented inventions, and many of the | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | concerns are based more on fear than actual data." | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | This is as good as the argument get but... | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: yes, I'm not an FSF person | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Not even a member | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I am more of a libertarian | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | I view Free software as a good tool | Nov 08 22:37 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[scientes] ♻ @singlepayer: US GOV takes $ OUT of YOUR #MEDICARE $$$ YOU've PAID IN to SYSTEM for #hcr —gives 2 PRIV INS to push paper GET IT NOW? | Nov 08 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | I spoke today a lot about how knowledge becomes a commodity | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | For about an hour... | Nov 08 22:37 |
| schestowitz | And people still dream of 'owning' knowledge, using this monopoly on information to take others' liberty | Nov 08 22:38 |
| schestowitz | They have ways of justifying the practice, self convicing | Nov 08 22:38 |
| schestowitz | Apropos, see swpat for example | Nov 08 22:38 |
| schestowitz | All about protectionist measures | Nov 08 22:38 |
| schestowitz | I can, you can't. ACTA is all about it. Enforcement at an abstract level.. thought, not deed. | Nov 08 22:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Isto parou tudo :S | Nov 08 22:42 | |
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| schestowitz | _goblin: and someone sent me this... | Nov 08 22:44 |
| schestowitz | http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/29/arlington_contracts/print.html | Nov 08 22:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Salon.com News | Millions in contracts, no work completed .::. Size~: 27.96 KB | Nov 08 22:44 |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz has a fortune estimated to be over 100 billion dollars ! | Nov 08 22:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | so why doesnt he just buy microsoft? | Nov 08 22:46 |
| *Diablo-D3 runs | Nov 08 22:46 | |
| _Hicham_ | negociations are in progress | Nov 08 22:47 |
| *schestowitz watches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RWbFK5f2Y4&feature=PlayList&p=8197B8DEF93FC7D9&index=4 | Nov 08 22:52 | |
| _Hicham_ | schestowitz wishes that the world will end on a nuclear war | Nov 08 22:53 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] COFEE on Torrent! & Mixing Private/Public Sector http://tinyurl.com/yetgqak #cofee #microsoft #windows #vista #xp #law #tpb #piracy | Nov 08 22:55 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: COFEE on Torrent! & Mixing Private/Public Sector « OPEN BYTES cave quid dicis, quando, et cui. .::. Size~: 35.91 KB | Nov 08 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | _Hicham_: hehe. No. | Nov 08 23:02 |
| schestowitz | Opposite | Nov 08 23:03 |
| schestowitz | You must have thought of suicidal daemonFC | Nov 08 23:03 |
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| PetoKraus | hmm | Nov 08 23:10 |
| PetoKraus | roy, i've just installed QtCurve on my PC | Nov 08 23:11 |
| PetoKraus | yeah well | Nov 08 23:11 |
| PetoKraus | KDE4 did good job on UI | Nov 08 23:11 |
| oiaohm_ | and they are not finished yet either PetoKraus | Nov 08 23:11 |
| PetoKraus | yeah | Nov 08 23:12 |
| PetoKraus | i'll keep using E17 though | Nov 08 23:12 |
| PetoKraus | but as an unifying thing between Qt's and GTK's it works fine | Nov 08 23:12 |
| _Hicham_ | PetoKraus : does it run well ? | Nov 08 23:13 |
| PetoKraus | yup | Nov 08 23:13 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : what do u mean ? | Nov 08 23:13 |
| _Hicham_ | http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.2 | Nov 08 23:15 |
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| _Hicham_ | http://en.opensuse.org/OpenSUSE_11.2_Launch_Party_Locations | Nov 08 23:16 |
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| _Hicham_ | schestowitz : unfortunately, no openSUSE launch party in the UK | Nov 08 23:17 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Whilst I wait for Mr Shields to get his head around what it is he is trying to accuse me of I think its time for http://tinyurl.com/l7afsg | Nov 08 23:17 | |
| _Hicham_ | !google schestowitz opensuse | Nov 08 23:19 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Roy Schestowitz | Boycott Novell | http://boycottnovell.com/author/schestowitz/ | Nov 08 23:19 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz) on Twitter | http://twitter.com/schestowitz | Nov 08 23:19 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - KDE 4.1 openSUSE Packages and Live CD | http://digg.com/linux_unix/KDE_4_1_openSUSE_Packages_and_Live_CD | Nov 08 23:19 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Schestowitz.com SEO, Social Media and PR Analysis | http://wholinkstome.com/url/schestowitz.com | Nov 08 23:19 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] ...and its rather fitting since some like to label me as a troll.... | Nov 08 23:19 | |
| trmanco | lol | Nov 08 23:20 |
| _Hicham_ | senor trmanco | Nov 08 23:20 |
| _Hicham_ | what a great day | Nov 08 23:21 |
| schestowitz | This documentary is depressing | Nov 08 23:21 |
| _Hicham_ | don't watch such things | Nov 08 23:21 |
| _Hicham_ | I am sick of those those | Nov 08 23:21 |
| _Hicham_ | live ur life and stop worrying about the world | Nov 08 23:22 |
| _Hicham_ | life is beautiful | Nov 08 23:22 |
| _Hicham_ | 4 days remaining to the official release of openSUSE 11.2 | Nov 08 23:24 |
| _goblin | Roy...you know I was wrong about Jo Shields... | Nov 08 23:26 |
| _goblin | hes actually very polite.... | Nov 08 23:26 |
| _goblin | here quoteth the man himself: | Nov 08 23:26 |
| _goblin | "hah, fuck that. I have NEVER done ANYTHING to you worth an apology, up to and including this: you are a cunt and a blight on FOSS" | Nov 08 23:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | woah | Nov 08 23:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | who said that? | Nov 08 23:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | oh, directhex | Nov 08 23:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | yeah, hes an awesome dick sometimes | Nov 08 23:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wish he'd switch to java | Nov 08 23:27 |
| oiaohm_ | _Hicham_: Plasma graphics will intergrate back into normal applications under KDE in future making the interface most constant. | Nov 08 23:27 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : into Qt apps | Nov 08 23:28 |
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| oiaohm_ | Yep _Hicham_ | Nov 08 23:28 |
| oiaohm_ | Then the system configruation section of KDE will keep on growing. | Nov 08 23:29 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Awww.. Mr Shields is having a tantrum...cant we all just be http://bit.ly/Jh2H6 its only software after all.... | Nov 08 23:29 | |
| _goblin | I think Jo is brilliant. | Nov 08 23:29 |
| oiaohm_ | Basically the UI between KDE distributions will even become more constant. | Nov 08 23:29 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] ♻ @LibertyTuga: :P Vejam até ao fim :PPPP - Gostosinhas de 18 anos se acariciando ! http://bit.ly/2iZPHX | Nov 08 23:32 | |
| Diablo-D3 | _goblin: find me the url with that directhex quote | Nov 08 23:34 |
| fewa | The "liberial" media is lying as much as the explicit propaganda media | Nov 08 23:34 |
| _goblin | ok... | Nov 08 23:35 |
| _goblin | standby | Nov 08 23:35 |
| _Hicham_ | oiaohm : do u think that Qt apps will grow up in number or no ? | Nov 08 23:35 |
| _goblin | http://twitter.com/directhex/status/5543665288 | Nov 08 23:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Twitter / Jo Shields: .@_Goblin hah, fuck that. ... .::. Size~: 9.96 KB | Nov 08 23:35 |
| _goblin | it was in response to me asking for an appology regarding him telling lies and claiming I said something I didn't. | Nov 08 23:36 |
| _goblin | I wouldn't care but the "evidence" he linked even showed it wasn't my comment... | Nov 08 23:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | ugh I hate twitter | Nov 08 23:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt show me a thread context | Nov 08 23:37 |
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| _Hicham_ | senor tacone the maffioso, welcome back | Nov 08 23:38 |
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| cubezzz | people are just extremely rude these days | Nov 08 23:38 |
| tacone | Hey | Nov 08 23:39 |
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| williami | This is about Miguel: | Nov 08 23:39 |
| _goblin | oops....he's not finished yet: | Nov 08 23:39 |
| _goblin | fucking potty-mouthed kids,eh? Say, ever grepped your kernel source? linux-source-2.6.31$ grep -ir fuck .|wc -l34 | Nov 08 23:40 |
| williami | I tried to get him to stop promoting Mono and look at Icedtea, but, he just deleted my comment. | Nov 08 23:40 |
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| cubezzz | 2.6.31 is too new for me :) | Nov 08 23:40 |
| williami | Ooh, makes me want to punch him in the face right now. | Nov 08 23:40 |
| williami | ... | Nov 08 23:41 |
| *williami wants to punch Miguel De Icaza in the face for deleting my comment about switching to IcedTea, and stop promoting mono. | Nov 08 23:41 | |
| Diablo-D3 | williami: you found the glory that is java!? | Nov 08 23:42 |
| cubezzz | doesn't seem to be any f words in sharp's old kernel | Nov 08 23:42 |
| williami | Diablo-D3: it's free, totaly, it's at icedtea.classpath.org | Nov 08 23:42 |
| williami | I love Java. | Nov 08 23:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | williami: WELCOME TO THE PROMISED LAND, BROTHER | Nov 08 23:43 |
| _Hicham_ | icedtea is what became openjdk | Nov 08 23:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: half right | Nov 08 23:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | icedtea is the unofficial distribution of openjdk | Nov 08 23:43 |
| _Hicham_ | a project which was started by redhat, and merjed in openjdk by sun | Nov 08 23:43 |
| _Hicham_ | who is distributing it ? | Nov 08 23:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | it went sorta like icedtea (the sun source code) -> openjdk -> icedtea (the distribution of openjdk) | Nov 08 23:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | its confusing as fuck | Nov 08 23:43 |
| _goblin | williami: I think Jo is great...He provides material that will bring readers in. I don't want to hit him, I want to buy him a drink! | Nov 08 23:43 |
| cubezzz | oh I see the swears now | Nov 08 23:44 |
| _Hicham_ | i don't see any icedtea in linux distros now | Nov 08 23:44 |
| williami | _goblin: Not him, Miguel de Icaza. | Nov 08 23:44 |
| _Hicham_ | as OpenJDK is completely free | Nov 08 23:44 |
| _Hicham_ | Miguel is a great person | Nov 08 23:44 |
| _goblin | williami: he exposes his true nature without any effort from me...he's the best example I had in a while. | Nov 08 23:44 |
| _Hicham_ | he introduced MS exe format to linux | Nov 08 23:44 |
| williami | _Hicham_: ... | Nov 08 23:44 |
| williami | -_- | Nov 08 23:45 |
| _goblin | I love the "blight on FOSS"...I'll have to include that in my sig. | Nov 08 23:45 |
| williami | ... | Nov 08 23:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | you know why I hate mono? | Nov 08 23:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | and .net? | Nov 08 23:45 |
| _Hicham_ | why ? | Nov 08 23:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | and c#? | Nov 08 23:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | because its java done most horribly wrong | Nov 08 23:46 |
| williami | Diablo-D3: PATENTS!!!!!! | Nov 08 23:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | actually, screw the patents | Nov 08 23:46 |
| fewa | _goblin, ive got 4 more than u | Nov 08 23:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats not even a big issue | Nov 08 23:46 |
| _goblin | 4 more what? | Nov 08 23:46 |
| fewa | v2.6.31 | Nov 08 23:46 |
| fewa | fucks | Nov 08 23:46 |
| williami | Software patents specifaly. | Nov 08 23:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | its the fact mono (which has a better c# compiler and is faster at executing it) is slower than shit, wastes memory, and the .net bcl is constructed badly and is missing lots of shit | Nov 08 23:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | microsoft's .net impl is almost as big as java 6 and does half the shit it does | Nov 08 23:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | this is what I hate | Nov 08 23:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | patents are a distant third | Nov 08 23:47 |
| williami | That's why I use java instead of C#, even through I know both. | Nov 08 23:47 |
| cubezzz | Well I'll use java before I use C# | Nov 08 23:47 |
| williami | I'd never use C#. | Nov 08 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | I used java about 10 years ago | Nov 08 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | and thought it was shit | Nov 08 23:48 |
| williami | See? | Nov 08 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | I tried c# for a month about 6 months ago | Nov 08 23:48 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, why is that? | Nov 08 23:48 |
| cubezzz | you seem to really like Java now | Nov 08 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then I tried java again right after that | Nov 08 23:48 |
| williami | Now, just look at C#, and it's bloated. | Nov 08 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | I never ever ever want to use another language again | Nov 08 23:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | java is just so fucking perfect | Nov 08 23:49 |
| williami | Of cource!!! | Nov 08 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: well, it was 10 years ago | Nov 08 23:49 |
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| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: obviously it got better in the past decade | Nov 08 23:49 |
| williami | But I am trying to learn C/C++ as well. | Nov 08 23:49 |
| _Hicham_ | maybe diablo will switch to python after that | Nov 08 23:49 |
| williami | And python too. | Nov 08 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: nope, cant stand their stupid shit | Nov 08 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | python is designed by kiddies for kiddies | Nov 08 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | williami: btw, C really does suck | Nov 08 23:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | I used it for almost 15 years, its inferior to Java | Nov 08 23:50 |
| laptopnenolod | Diablo-D3, as a perpetually 12 year old person, i think i will appreciate that design concept then | Nov 08 23:50 |
| williami | -_-. | Nov 08 23:50 |
| _Hicham_ | why is it used intensively on linux Diablo-D3 ? | Nov 08 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | its also about 9000 years older than java, but hey | Nov 08 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: because linux coders are MANLY MEN | Nov 08 23:50 |
| cubezzz | most of GNU is in C | Nov 08 23:50 |
| laptopnenolod | most of GNU is also crap | Nov 08 23:50 |
| williami | Diablo-D3: what about c++ | Nov 08 23:50 |
| williami | ? | Nov 08 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | MANLY MEN WHO PROGRAM USING ED | Nov 08 23:50 |
| laptopnenolod | but, you know, it's open source crap, so that makes it "ok" | Nov 08 23:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | williami: its worthless shit | Nov 08 23:50 |
| williami | ... | Nov 08 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | williami: c++ is what happens when you let idiots near a good language | Nov 08 23:51 |
| williami | well, ... | Nov 08 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | c++ is to c as c# is to java. | Nov 08 23:51 |
| cubezzz | Diablo-D3, so you never use C now? | Nov 08 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: rarely, yes | Nov 08 23:51 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: fyi, you're full of shit | Nov 08 23:51 |
| _Hicham_ | Diablo-D3 : Sun JDK 1.7 will be completely Open Source | Nov 08 23:51 |
| williami | yes! | Nov 08 23:51 |
| cubezzz | I have to admit gnubik was a big disappointment | Nov 08 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: openjdk 6 is completely open | Nov 08 23:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no Im not | Nov 08 23:52 |
| williami | yes again! | Nov 08 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I've tried a lot of languages, very few I stuck with | Nov 08 23:52 |
| laptopnenolod | C++ attempts to solve a problem worth solving (providing a good object environment with C-like syntax and concepts), but has made the language infinitely more complex in the process | Nov 08 23:52 |
| williami | java == favorite. | Nov 08 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: c++ is shit, python is shit, c# is shit | Nov 08 23:52 |
| cubezzz | what about perl and php? | Nov 08 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | and even after unladen swallow becomes the most used python interpreter, python will still be shitty | Nov 08 23:52 |
| _Hicham_ | Diablo-D3 is really enthousiastic about Java | Nov 08 23:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: I used perl for 5 years, I refuse to use php. | Nov 08 23:53 |
| laptopnenolod | Diablo-D3, actually we like pypy :) | Nov 08 23:53 |
| williami | but I should learn C/C++ in case I have to work on a project using those. | Nov 08 23:53 |
| williami | just a though. | Nov 08 23:53 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: fyi, you're full of shit and in denial | Nov 08 23:53 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 08 23:53 |
| _Hicham_ | Diablo-D3, some Java stuff still hangs on Linux | Nov 08 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | williami: learn C, refuse to do C++, you will be happier. | Nov 08 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I cant stand the weird python syntax | Nov 08 23:53 |
| fewa | for v2.6.32-rc6 its down to 37 | Nov 08 23:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: some java stuff is badly written. | Nov 08 23:53 |
| cubezzz | so I get for script language you use javascript? | Nov 08 23:54 |
| cubezzz | guess | Nov 08 23:54 |
| _Hicham_ | Diablo-D3 : what about Sun's proprietary API in OpenJDK-1.6 ? | Nov 08 23:54 |
| williami | Really, I sometimes I have to use C++. Honestly, maybe if I have to work on KDE. | Nov 08 23:54 |
| cubezzz | perl is OK | Nov 08 23:54 |
| cubezzz | better than awk :) | Nov 08 23:54 |
| _Hicham_ | perl is used intensively in Mandriva | Nov 08 23:54 |
| williami | python's good | Nov 08 23:55 |
| fewa | and debian | Nov 08 23:55 |
| _Hicham_ | the drakconf tools are written in Perl | Nov 08 23:55 |
| _Hicham_ | anaconda, redhat's installer is written in python | Nov 08 23:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: why would anyone use it? | Nov 08 23:55 |
| cubezzz | well everyone has different opinions | Nov 08 23:55 |
| _Hicham_ | packagekit is written in python | Nov 08 23:55 |
| _Hicham_ | Ubuntu Software Center is written in Python$ | Nov 08 23:56 |
| williami | c# absloutly sucks, who uses it? | Nov 08 23:56 |
| cubezzz | I don't use C# | Nov 08 23:56 |
| laptopnenolod | Diablo-D3, anaconda, from a usability perspective, is much better than debian-installer. | Nov 08 23:56 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft invention, and I am suspicious | Nov 08 23:56 |
| williami | c++ is somewhat complex, but you use it if you use QT/KDE. | Nov 08 23:56 |
| _Hicham_ | williami : u can u use python with QT/KDE | Nov 08 23:56 |
| williami | i know | Nov 08 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: yes, lots of shits written in python | Nov 08 23:57 |
| williami | but not everything in KDE is Python | Nov 08 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt make me hate it any less | Nov 08 23:57 |
| williami | In fact, most of it is in C++. | Nov 08 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: I cant stand the syntax | Nov 08 23:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: and eventually its going to turn into java anyhow | Nov 08 23:58 |
| _Hicham_ | Diablo-D3 : Python's syntax is clearer than Java's one | Nov 08 23:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: not really | Nov 08 23:58 |
| _Hicham_ | and more compact | Nov 08 23:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | their obsession with whitespace makes it much harder to use | Nov 08 23:58 |
| _Hicham_ | Python as a language is compact | Nov 08 23:59 |
| laptopnenolod | _goblin, so what demo is this that you claim to write? the only thing i have ever seen you write is trash pieces. | Nov 08 23:59 |
| _Hicham_ | u can put it in ur head easily | Nov 08 23:59 |
| _Hicham_ | while with java, u will always need the api doc | Nov 08 23:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: erm, what? | Nov 08 23:59 |
| MinceR | lol @ "eventually its going to turn into java anyhow" | Nov 08 23:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | _Hicham_: I hardly ever read the api docs after I've read them once | Nov 08 23:59 |
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