| schestowitz | _goblin: Microsoft Nick asks questions and nobody answers. http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/advertising_search/microsoft_suggests_it_fixed_chinese_bing_bug.html | Dec 03 00:05 |
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| schestowitz | His shilling for Microsoft seems to have driven everyone out | Dec 03 00:05 |
| _goblin | I'll have a look! | Dec 03 00:06 |
| _goblin | Roy, why are you not waving? | Dec 03 00:06 |
| _goblin | google waving... | Dec 03 00:06 |
| _goblin | I should have taken over Microsoft-watch.....I did get the punters commenting..... | Dec 03 00:06 |
| _goblin | it may not have been what Microsoft wanted, but I certainly brought in the viewers....you just need to look back at the silence until I posted and the deluge of conversation that followed.... | Dec 03 00:07 |
| _goblin | I believe Microsoft-watch keep their old articles, so all the COLA troll lurkers here can check that one back yourselves....(I know which ones you are btw) | Dec 03 00:08 |
| schestowitz | Chips was there for a while | Dec 03 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Nick censored him | Dec 03 00:15 |
| cubezzz | checking the user agents for november, Linux usage is up | Dec 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Linux is always up | Dec 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | [boycottn@boycottnovell ~]$ uptime | Dec 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | 16:17:01 up 92 days, 6:40, 1 user, load average: 3.14, 1.57, 1.25 | Dec 03 00:20 |
| schestowitz | http://blogs.computerworld.com/15174/dell_releases_unofficial_chrome_os_linux_desktop | Dec 03 00:21 |
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| schestowitz | Brucie provokes again... http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3850561/Open-Source-Projects-and-the-Meritocracy-Myth.htm I won't bother spreading it :-| | Dec 03 00:24 |
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| cubezzz | has anyone heard of "white space networking"? | Dec 03 00:24 |
| tessier | yes | Dec 03 00:24 |
| tessier | Radio networks like 802.11 or GSM/3G in the unused spectrum. | Dec 03 00:25 |
| cubezzz | Gates is lobbying the FCC | Dec 03 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Where? | Dec 03 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Anything new? | Dec 03 00:28 |
| cubezzz | it's on linuxdevices.com | Dec 03 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Oh, that | Dec 03 00:28 |
| schestowitz | Whitespace | Dec 03 00:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/FCC-moves-to-establish-databases-of-incumbent-spectrum-users/?kc=rss | Dec 03 00:28 |
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| cubezzz | schestowitz, MIcrosoft has some kind of prototype device | Dec 03 00:29 |
| cubezzz | I always wondered if some sort of UHF radio network would be possible | Dec 03 00:32 |
| cubezzz | http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf08739.html | Dec 03 00:34 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: their device failed twice | Dec 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | !google boycott fcc microsoft | Dec 03 00:35 |
| phIRCe-local | [1] - Microsoft 'Takes Over' the FCC | Boycott Novell | http://boycottnovell.com/2009/07/20/microsoft-fcc-steven-vanroekel/ | Dec 03 00:35 |
| phIRCe-local | [2] - FCC-Comcast-Microsoft and the Freedom Antagonists Axis? | Boycott ... | http://boycottnovell.com/2008/01/14/fcc-comcast-microsoft-analysis/ | Dec 03 00:35 |
| phIRCe-local | [3] - Microsoft responds to call for Bing boycott over China censorship | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/11/will-you-boycott-bing.ars | Dec 03 00:35 |
| phIRCe-local | [4] - Boycott Windows Media Center | DefectiveByDesign.org | http://defectivebydesign.org/blog/BoycottWindowsMediaCenter | Dec 03 00:35 |
| schestowitz | Blankenhorn trolling: http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=5366 | Dec 03 00:37 |
| cubezzz | [1] sounds really bad | Dec 03 00:37 |
| schestowitz | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39915623,00.htm | Dec 03 00:39 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/08/01/msfcc-vs-apple-google/ | Dec 03 00:39 |
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| cubezzz | well, I guess I don't need to worry too much about the FCC, but still.... | Dec 03 00:40 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: I met chips on MS-Watch..... | Dec 03 00:40 |
| schestowitz | That's where I fist saw both of you.. | Dec 03 00:43 |
| schestowitz | I rarely commented on Joe's post | Dec 03 00:44 |
| schestowitz | *posts | Dec 03 00:44 |
| _goblin | it all started for me with Microsoft Watch.... | Dec 03 00:52 |
| _goblin | before that, if I'd met you Roy, I would have thought the idea of a MS shill was proposterous, that was before I became a victim of them myself.... | Dec 03 00:53 |
| _goblin | it amazing how quickly time goes...it was around August 08 I started posting in MS watch, became a target of shillers by the end of august, then I believe found Boycott Novell around the end of October 08...and if it wasn't for Andre Da Costa, Openbytes would not have existed now. | Dec 03 00:55 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/6615872/Alexander-Litvinenko-A-very-Russian-poisoning.html | Dec 03 01:03 |
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| schestowitz | [00:53] <_goblin> before that, if I'd met you Roy, I would have thought the idea of a MS shill was proposterous, that was before I became a victim of them myself.... | Dec 03 01:03 |
| schestowitz | Yes, same here | Dec 03 01:03 |
| schestowitz | When then come out of the woodwork you start to learn | Dec 03 01:03 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: who is Da Costa? | Dec 03 01:04 |
| schestowitz | You mean Mister Dee and other sockpuppets shilling for Microsoft schwag? | Dec 03 01:04 |
| cubezzz | what kind of schwag? | Dec 03 01:05 |
| cubezzz | or swag | Dec 03 01:05 |
| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091202-709993.html | Dec 03 01:05 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: laptop | Dec 03 01:05 |
| _goblin | schestowitz: thats him.....! | Dec 03 01:06 |
| cubezzz | how about some Linux swag, we need a rich Linux dude who gives away stuff to counter-balance things | Dec 03 01:07 |
| _goblin | Im going to shill for Bentley...I want a free car..... | Dec 03 01:07 |
| _goblin | Have I told you how great Bentleys are? | Dec 03 01:07 |
| _goblin | ah....The feature rich Bentley....great for comfort and luxury in an uncaring world..... | Dec 03 01:08 |
| _goblin | cubezzz: I dont think it would work......Mark shuttleworth -"Cubezz, for all the great shilling you've done for Canonical Im going to give you.......a free copy of our latest OS!!!"......somehow its not quite the same.... | Dec 03 01:11 |
| cubezzz | ;-) | Dec 03 01:11 |
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| _goblin | maybe if he threw in some stickers... | Dec 03 01:12 |
| cubezzz | I guess I should just buy some GNU stuff | Dec 03 01:13 |
| _goblin | I really want one of those BSOD T-shirts | Dec 03 01:14 |
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| yuhong | "That would be the same Best Buy that turned against GNU/Linux [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] after Microsoft supplied the staff with highly deceptive material." | Dec 03 01:14 |
| cubezzz | not BSOD, Guru Mediation :) | Dec 03 01:14 |
| cubezzz | yuhong, yeah :-/ | Dec 03 01:15 |
| yuhong | I wonder what would happen if Canonical tried to fight back again Best Buy? | Dec 03 01:15 |
| cubezzz | I was in Best Buy last night | Dec 03 01:15 |
| cubezzz | looking for a Linux laptop, I should have known better | Dec 03 01:15 |
| yuhong | I know. | Dec 03 01:17 |
| yuhong | "That would be the same Best Buy that turned against GNU/Linux [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] after Microsoft supplied the staff with highly deceptive material." | Dec 03 01:17 |
| yuhong | I wonder what would happen if Canonical tried to fight back again Best Buy? | Dec 03 01:17 |
| yuhong | I mean Microsoft. | Dec 03 01:17 |
| cubezzz | were they selling Linux stuff before? | Dec 03 01:17 |
| yuhong | Yea, they had a deal with Canonical to sell Ubuntu with support. | Dec 03 01:18 |
| yuhong | But they stopped around the time this happened. | Dec 03 01:18 |
| yuhong | I wonder what would happen if Canonical tried to fight back. | Dec 03 01:18 |
| cubezzz | what a dirty dealer | Dec 03 01:18 |
| cubezzz | North America is bad for this | Dec 03 01:19 |
| yuhong | I know. | Dec 03 01:19 |
| yuhong | I know some more general problems with Best Buy, the Geek Squad acquision in particular created a lot of trouble, but most of it is kinda off-topic. | Dec 03 01:20 |
| yuhong | Anyway I wonder what would happen if Canonical tried to fight back. | Dec 03 01:20 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prweb.com/releases/entera-nxtera-linux/ibm-ready-system-z/prweb3270274.htm | Dec 03 01:21 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: your company? | Dec 03 01:21 |
| cubezzz | no :) | Dec 03 01:21 |
| yuhong | Anyway I wonder what would happen if Canonical tried to fight back. | Dec 03 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Why? | Dec 03 01:22 |
| schestowitz | Fight a thugs by being another? | Dec 03 01:22 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft was exposed | Dec 03 01:22 |
| cubezzz | it's online or nothing I'm afraid | Dec 03 01:22 |
| schestowitz | People needed to be reminded what bully Miguel is nogging | Dec 03 01:22 |
| schestowitz | *snogging | Dec 03 01:22 |
| cubezzz | I don't like the projection eCube is using :) | Dec 03 01:23 |
| cubezzz | pictorial | Dec 03 01:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1564244/apple-fans-whinge-google-ignores | Dec 03 01:23 |
| yuhong | I am thinking Canonical could for example create another similar presentation to debunk MS's FUD. | Dec 03 01:24 |
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| yuhong | Could be an interesting fight. | Dec 03 01:24 |
| cubezzz | I just can't get excited about Ubuntu | Dec 03 01:24 |
| cubezzz | but they try hard | Dec 03 01:24 |
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| yuhong | Mark Shuttleworth is on IRC. | Dec 03 01:26 |
| cubezzz | the 3 countries who can make cpus: USA, Japan and China | Dec 03 01:26 |
| cubezzz | invite him here :) | Dec 03 01:27 |
| yuhong | I am thinking of trying to find sabtfl on the #ubuntu IRC channel. | Dec 03 01:27 |
| yuhong | And related ones. | Dec 03 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | yuhong: as far as I know he does not go to that one ever, or hardly ever | Dec 03 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | well I just got into a pm | Dec 03 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | with someone who is doing support for one of Microsoft's products apparantly | Dec 03 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | yep working for Microsoft, but does not like them | Dec 03 01:28 |
| sebsebseb | first day using Ubuntu | Dec 03 01:29 |
| cubezzz | yeah some guys just want a job | Dec 03 01:29 |
| sebsebseb | pm has been a little while | Dec 03 01:29 |
| yuhong | I mean Ubuntu-related IRC channels. | Dec 03 01:29 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yes that's basically what they put, what a bad economy will do to people | Dec 03 01:30 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmmmmm...... http://linuxgazette.net/169/lg_backpage.html | Dec 03 01:30 |
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| schestowitz | http://lwn.net/Articles/364759/ | Dec 03 01:30 |
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| *schestowitz grumbles | Dec 03 01:30 | |
| cubezzz | for the most part, I think GNU/Linux has the software, it just doesn't have OEM or retail support | Dec 03 01:31 |
| schestowitz | OEMs want kickbacks | Dec 03 01:31 |
| sebsebseb | indeed at that | Dec 03 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Ask Intel/Dell/Microsoft | Dec 03 01:31 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: hmm? | Dec 03 01:32 |
| schestowitz | The syndicate | Dec 03 01:32 |
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| yuhong | I know. | Dec 03 01:33 |
| cubezzz | is Dell really that powerful? | Dec 03 01:33 |
| cubezzz | obviously Intel and Microsoft are... | Dec 03 01:35 |
| yuhong | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekKarmic/AskMark | Dec 03 01:37 |
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| yuhong | Don't seem to have anything on this. | Dec 03 01:37 |
| yuhong | I am going to the #ubuntu channel and asking anyway. | Dec 03 01:38 |
| schestowitz | Defeatism: How Linux Could Dominate the Operating System Industry < http://linux.bihlman.com/2009/12/01/how-linux-could-dominate-the-operating-system-industry/ > | Dec 03 01:40 |
| schestowitz | Dr. Phil Week...... | Dec 03 01:40 |
| cubezzz | pfffft | Dec 03 01:47 |
| cubezzz | heh, Mort is getting the business | Dec 03 01:48 |
| cubezzz | deservedly so | Dec 03 01:49 |
| cubezzz | people are lazy, I'm still not sure if they are stupid | Dec 03 01:49 |
| cubezzz | I cook, I program :) | Dec 03 01:51 |
| yuhong | Turned out #ubuntu is the wrong IRC channel for discussing this. | Dec 03 01:51 |
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| schestowitz | http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/a-note-of-improvement-for-ath5k/ | Dec 03 01:52 |
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| schestowitz | yuhong: discuss what? | Dec 03 01:53 |
| schestowitz | BEst Buy? | Dec 03 01:53 |
| schestowitz | http://royal.pingdom.com/2009/12/01/74-of-the-world-googles-chrome-os-is-not-for-you/ | Dec 03 01:53 |
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| schestowitz | What a stupid statement | Dec 03 01:53 |
| schestowitz | Many of them have no COMPUTER, either | Dec 03 01:54 |
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| yuhong | Yes, Best Buy, I am on the #ubuntu channel trying to ask. | Dec 03 01:54 |
| cubezzz | well, OLPC was supposed to address that | Dec 03 01:55 |
| yuhong | Note that Netscape predicted that windows would be reduced to a buggy set of drivers. | Dec 03 01:55 |
| cubezzz | ummm | Dec 03 01:56 |
| cubezzz | What happened to Netscape wasn't good, but Linux is much stronger | Dec 03 01:57 |
| cubezzz | Microsoft is fighting hard, but they call Linux a "Multi-headed Hydra" | Dec 03 01:58 |
| cubezzz | from Microsoft, that is a compliment | Dec 03 01:58 |
| yuhong | No wonder MS tried to attack Netscape | Dec 03 02:00 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/automatically-download-all-wallpapers.html | Dec 03 02:11 |
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| cubezzz | I haven't heard much about OLPC lately | Dec 03 02:12 |
| yuhong | Google is much stronger however. | Dec 03 02:13 |
| cubezzz | yes :) | Dec 03 02:14 |
| *schestowitz downloading | Dec 03 02:14 | |
| cubezzz | http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Business/2009/11/29/Laptop_program_underway_399799.html | Dec 03 02:14 |
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| yuhong | I an discussing this issue with jrib and rww. | Dec 03 02:18 |
| yuhong | on #ubuntu-offtopic. | Dec 03 02:18 |
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| yuhong | One problem is the disappearance of the Ubuntu box set appear to have happened sliently, making it hard to see the exact date, but it certainly was more than a month apart. | Dec 03 02:27 |
| cubezzz | "Nicholas says that OLPC will sell Linux-only and dual-boot, and will not sell Windows-only" | Dec 03 02:38 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Right thats me off, duties are over. If anyone gets the chance, check out Mr Bee in COLA, a fine example of the clueless! #microsoft #fail | Dec 03 02:43 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #Intel releases 48 core CPU with 48 Atom-like cores, 4x the size of i7 die, 4x DDR3 controllers, still inferior to #AMD http://ur1.ca/h13a | Dec 03 02:46 | |
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| schestowitz | Gore Vidal Speaks < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kF_3BH_6GQ > | Dec 03 02:51 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Alliance to Roll Back Taxes files petition to lower taxes in Massachusetts http://ur1.ca/h1e1 http://ur1.ca/h1e5 #politics | Dec 03 02:51 | |
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| schestowitz | This one is old but prophetic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb2f9DFFkSI&NR=1&feature=fvwp | Dec 03 03:00 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #RIAA is crooked http://ur1.ca/h1er #douchebags | Dec 03 03:01 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] #MPAA has officially stopped being relevant as of now http://ur1.ca/h1f3 | Dec 03 03:06 | |
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| schestowitz | Rick Mercer: Swine Flu Lager http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ituzmI4L8rc&feature=channel | Dec 03 03:13 |
| schestowitz | 'Iron Man' Trailer To Be Made Into Feature Film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBM3j7x4Lcw&feature=fvst | Dec 03 03:16 |
| schestowitz | Queen Will Leave Behind Long Legacy Of Waving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5pkDB7zEeo | Dec 03 03:20 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pro-#Ogg page only lists #Vorbis, no #Theora? http://ur1.ca/h1fb !freesoftware | Dec 03 03:26 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Pro #Ogg page only lists #Vorbis, no #Theora? http://ur1.ca/h1fb !freesoftware | Dec 03 03:31 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5nLxZVoPo | Dec 03 03:44 |
| schestowitz | gn | Dec 03 04:04 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Senator Bernie Sanders puts hold #BenBernake nomination for another term http://ur1.ca/h1mr #politics #hero | Dec 03 06:11 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | it helps when I dont typo | Dec 03 06:18 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Senator Bernie Sanders puts hold on #BenBernanke nomination for another term http://ur1.ca/h1mr #politics #hero | Dec 03 06:21 | |
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| tessier | http://freakbits.com/microsoft-piracy-no-longer-poses-a-threat-to-us-1202 | Dec 03 08:53 |
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| tessier | schestowitz: You seen this one? | Dec 03 08:53 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[popey] Android phone love number 278: Standing in the queue for coffee, sorting out my mail. Get to my desk. Empty inbox. :) #fb | Dec 03 09:39 | |
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| schestowitz | Hey, tessier | Dec 03 09:56 |
| schestowitz | Bernie Sanders is the man | Dec 03 09:57 |
| schestowitz | I just got a confirmation about the interview.... will go down to London for the television interview \0/ them covering all the expenses too | Dec 03 09:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | bernie sanders is kinda neat | Dec 03 10:01 |
| schestowitz | I saw his stuff before.... he's senator/mayor of Connecticut or something, IIRC | Dec 03 10:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | senator damnit | Dec 03 10:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | [01:18:09] -BNi/#boycottnovell- [diablod3/@diablod3] Senator Bernie Sanders puts hold on #BenBernanke nomination for another term http://ur1.ca/h1mr #politics #hero | Dec 03 10:05 |
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| Diablo-D3 | I said it right there! | Dec 03 10:05 |
| schestowitz | I didn't watch the video. I wasn't sure if he was a mayor somewhere in CT | Dec 03 10:14 |
| tessier | cool | Dec 03 10:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Dell Offers #GNU #Linux Preinstalled on Very High End Desktops http://ur1.ca/h1w6 http://ur1.ca/h1w7 | Dec 03 10:22 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Problem of Viruses to #GNU #Linux Comes from Neighbouring #Windows http://ur1.ca/h1w8 | Dec 03 10:24 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] What #GNU #Linux Can Achieve That #Windows Cannot http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/some-things-linux-can-do-that-windows-wont/ | Dec 03 10:25 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows Carries on Dropping in Share, #GNU #Linux Gains Without "Carnival of Publicity" http://ur1.ca/h1wb | Dec 03 10:26 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] List of Ideas for an Old PC and List of #Linux Pranks http://ur1.ca/h1wd http://linuxers.org/pranks | Dec 03 10:28 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Touch Screen Monitors Now Supported by #GNU #Linux Thin Clients http://ur1.ca/h1wk | Dec 03 10:31 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #SunGard Builds Own #GNU #Linux Platform http://ur1.ca/h1wv | Dec 03 10:34 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] New Distribution of #Chromium OS and #Chrome OS from #Google http://ur1.ca/h1xd http://ur1.ca/gy8x | Dec 03 10:38 | |
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| Ender2070_ | Arora is a better option anyway | Dec 03 10:39 |
| oiaohm | http://www.x.org/wiki/XorgHAL The times are changing. | Dec 03 10:40 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #KDE 4.4 #Multitouch Demonstrated in Video http://ur1.ca/h1xu http://ur1.ca/h1xw | Dec 03 10:46 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Alternative Windows Manager/Desktop Environments: #WindowMaker http://ur1.ca/h1xz | Dec 03 10:47 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Another New #Review of #Fedora 12 (64 Bit) http://reviewglitz.com/2009/12/fedora-12-review/ | Dec 03 10:48 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Gentoo wins again with #Python 3 http://arcriley.blogspot.com/2009/12/gentoo-wins-again-with-python-3.html | Dec 03 10:50 | |
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| MinceR | what javascript engine does arora use? is it as fast as chromium's? | Dec 03 10:50 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Debian Still Has Power Over #Ubuntu , #AntiX -M8.5 (Debian based) is Coming http://ur1.ca/h1yh http://ur1.ca/h1yi | Dec 03 10:57 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Linux #Mint Receives a Couple of Decent Reviews http://ur1.ca/h1yl http://ur1.ca/h1yn | Dec 03 10:59 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Archos 5 #Linux -powered Tablet Looks Good http://www.pricemo.com/mobile-phones/archos-5-internet-tablet-10240/ | Dec 03 11:00 | |
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| schestowitz | Novell reports today | Dec 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Probably iffy results | Dec 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft lost its CFO | Dec 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | He quit | Dec 03 11:08 |
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| schestowitz | ANd I wondered why if Novell's Dana Russell quit as well | Dec 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | Or Hovsepian | Dec 03 11:08 |
| schestowitz | But CEOs rarely just jump ship without succession | Dec 03 11:08 |
| amarsh04 | thanks for the EDS/HP link schestowitz, .au employees were "asked" to take a pay freeze also... don't know if the union agreed | Dec 03 11:11 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Advocacy of Free/Libre #Databases to CIOs http://ur1.ca/h1z5 | Dec 03 11:16 | |
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| cubezzz | ok, this is weird | Dec 03 11:20 |
| oiaohm | http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/12/3/11 Hmm I did not see this in your news schestowitz 2.6.32 kernel release. | Dec 03 11:20 |
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| cubezzz | revenue sharing email from youtube | Dec 03 11:21 |
| cubezzz | hrmmm | Dec 03 11:21 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #CrunchPad Pressured to go Free Software http://ur1.ca/h1zh http://ur1.ca/h1zi http://ur1.ca/h1zj | Dec 03 11:26 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] The Economic Value of #FreeSoftware in Enterprise IT http://ur1.ca/h1zm http://ur1.ca/h1zn | Dec 03 11:27 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Final #Thunderbird 3 is Near (Reliability Bug Resolved) http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10407960-92.html | Dec 03 11:29 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Financial Services Choose #FreeSoftware http://www.itpro.co.uk/618364/capital-markets-finding-joy-with-open-source-tech | Dec 03 11:30 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Capital markets finding joy with open source tech | IT PRO .::. Size~: 36.33 KB | Dec 03 11:30 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] List of #FreeSoftware Business Models http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=5371 | Dec 03 11:31 | |
| fewa | I cant get hardware crypto to work on this sheevaplug | Dec 03 11:33 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Yashada Builds Free Software for Local #Libraries (India) http://ur1.ca/h1zy | Dec 03 11:35 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Yashada, NIC develop open source software for libraries - Pune - City - The Times of India .::. Size~: 49.35 KB | Dec 03 11:35 |
| cubezzz | found a barebones laptop seller: | Dec 03 11:36 |
| cubezzz | http://www.directron.com/nbbarebone.html | Dec 03 11:36 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] 451 Group Lists Milestones for #FreeSoftware in 2009 http://ur1.ca/h201 | Dec 03 11:37 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Bill Gates is a Lobbyist, Leans on #FCC http://ur1.ca/h206 | Dec 03 11:39 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: A step forward for white space networking - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.99 KB | Dec 03 11:39 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] National Computing Centre Publishes Paper on #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/h209 | Dec 03 11:41 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #IntellectualMonopolists Take Over #Spain http://www.boingboing.net/2009/12/02/spanish-activists-is.html | Dec 03 11:48 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Big Blue Patent Shark Does Not Help #FreeSoftware re #Patents http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10407618-16.html | Dec 03 11:49 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: To troll or not to troll, is that the question? | The Open Road - CNET News .::. Size~: 126.7 KB | Dec 03 11:49 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Monkey Business in Blair's Finances Linked to Gates Foundation http://ur1.ca/h20m | Dec 03 11:50 | |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, I didn't get around to it yet | Dec 03 11:58 |
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| schestowitz | He announced it last night | Dec 03 11:58 |
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| schestowitz | That was mutex nymshifting | Dec 03 11:59 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] I'm gonna go down to London to do an interview for Swiss television (documentary on Swine Flu). Anyone around? | Dec 03 12:02 | |
| fewa | cubezzz, wierd | Dec 03 12:08 |
| fewa | not very cheap | Dec 03 12:08 |
| cubezzz | still looking for arm based laptop | Dec 03 12:09 |
| fewa | same | Dec 03 12:09 |
| fewa | been waiting, and waiting | Dec 03 12:09 |
| fewa | I think they are called "smartbooks" now | Dec 03 12:09 |
| cubezzz | there's this, but it seems to be vapourware: | Dec 03 12:10 |
| cubezzz | http://www.ink-media.com/the_olea_specs.html | Dec 03 12:10 |
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| fewa | thats not arm | Dec 03 12:10 |
| fewa | there is this http://www.slashgear.com/wistron-n900z-smartbook-sub-200-arm-netbook-0345776/ | Dec 03 12:10 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Wistron N900z Smartbook: sub-$200 ARM netbook - SlashGear .::. Size~: 49.13 KB | Dec 03 12:10 |
| fewa | but its not available | Dec 03 12:10 |
| cubezzz | used zauruses on ebay seem to be the only ones | Dec 03 12:11 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2OObOM3R_U&feature=related | Dec 03 12:11 |
| cubezzz | that and netwalker, you can see the odd one on ebay | Dec 03 12:12 |
| fewa | also Pegatron | Dec 03 12:12 |
| fewa | http://www.shanzai.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=451&Itemid=26 | Dec 03 12:12 |
| fewa | I want it | Dec 03 12:12 |
| cubezzz | where to order? :) | Dec 03 12:13 |
| fewa | http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=570&osCsid=2c6bb739f0aa2cb98a4cef111389742c | Dec 03 12:14 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sharp Netwalker touchscreen PC-Z1 [English OK, Black] [ PC-Z1-B ] - -=- Conics.Net .::. Size~: 43.03 KB | Dec 03 12:14 |
| fewa | overprices | Dec 03 12:14 |
| fewa | *priced | Dec 03 12:14 |
| fewa | very smal | Dec 03 12:15 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly sure I will be wanting a laptop in future after seeing the sixed sence tech. | Dec 03 12:15 |
| cubezzz | 10 hour battery life, nice | Dec 03 12:16 |
| fewa | too little ram too | Dec 03 12:16 |
| fewa | (for the price) | Dec 03 12:17 |
| cubezzz | $610 includes shipping to Canada at least :) | Dec 03 12:17 |
| cubezzz | yeah, it's pricey | Dec 03 12:17 |
| cubezzz | 5" display isn't great, but great battery life | Dec 03 12:18 |
| fewa | supposedly 44,800 yen | Dec 03 12:18 |
| fewa | which is cheaper | Dec 03 12:18 |
| fewa | in JP | Dec 03 12:18 |
| fewa | I would like something a little bigger | Dec 03 12:18 |
| oiaohm | http://www.blendernation.com/sixth-sense-technology/ You have seen this? fewa and cubezzz | Dec 03 12:20 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Sixth Sense Technology | BlenderNation .::. Size~: 55.67 KB | Dec 03 12:20 |
| fewa | http://www.pocketables.net/2009/09/unboxing-the-sharp-netwalker-pcz1.html | Dec 03 12:25 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXD9HnrNrvk | Dec 03 12:25 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. I love watching Onion stories | Dec 03 12:26 |
| fewa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyph_DZa_GQ | Dec 03 12:27 |
| fewa | lol | Dec 03 12:30 |
| fewa | the anti-climatic stuff | Dec 03 12:30 |
| oiaohm | http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/161891,future-tech-interview-with-emotiv-co-founder-nam-do-and-the-science-behind-mind-control.aspx | Dec 03 12:30 |
| oiaohm | Interface tech at moment is taking more directions | Dec 03 12:30 |
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| fewa | http://www.clonedinchina.com/2009/09/czc-c9-is-alleged-to-be-the-worlds-thinest-netbook.html | Dec 03 12:34 |
| fewa | OOOOO | Dec 03 12:34 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: CZC C9 is alleged to be the worlds thinnest netbook |  Cloned In China .::. Size~: 23.91 KB | Dec 03 12:34 |
| fewa | thats what I want | Dec 03 12:34 |
| fewa | netbook w/ ARM | Dec 03 12:34 |
| fewa | they get locked out of US market | Dec 03 12:35 |
| oiaohm | Wonder if that can be used as a stale bread knife fewa | Dec 03 12:35 |
| fewa | someone beter import it | Dec 03 12:38 |
| fewa | cause i want it | Dec 03 12:38 |
| oiaohm | Wonder if a dropshipper in china has it fewa | Dec 03 12:39 |
| fewa | its basically a standard netbook, but with ARM cpu | Dec 03 12:39 |
| fewa | and cheaper | Dec 03 12:41 |
| fewa | at $220 | Dec 03 12:41 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ‘Innovates’ Microblogging, Buys User Accounts, Followers Spoil #Google Wave http://ur1.ca/h23t | Dec 03 12:50 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Innovates Microblogging, Buys User Accounts, Followers Spoil Google Wave | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 95.9 KB | Dec 03 12:50 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: the MS clone game. MS has a long history of this. | Dec 03 12:58 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] RD: @abbe: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/11/25th_anniversary_of_the_bhopal.html | Dec 03 13:06 | |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #OpenLogic — Like #Novell — Supports #RedHat Clone http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/03/rhel-centos-openlogic/ | Dec 03 13:18 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: OpenLogic Like Novell Supports Red Hat Clone | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 92.88 KB | Dec 03 13:18 |
| trmanco | is it "everytime" or "every time"? | Dec 03 13:31 |
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| oiaohm | Depends on what form of english you follow trmanco | Dec 03 13:32 |
| trmanco | ev-CA | Dec 03 13:32 |
| trmanco | en-CA | Dec 03 13:33 |
| trmanco | the dic is telling me that it should be separated | Dec 03 13:33 |
| oiaohm | Its correct for CA | Dec 03 13:38 |
| oiaohm | Ok unless everytime some time in the furture gets accepted there as correct spelling. | Dec 03 13:38 |
| oiaohm | Ie correct split into two words trmanco | Dec 03 13:39 |
| trmanco | ok thanks :) | Dec 03 13:39 |
| oiaohm | It comes down to who is writing the rules. | Dec 03 13:41 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Less #OpenSUSE, More #Microsoft Software at #Novell http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/03/novl-sax2-down-mono-up/ | Dec 03 14:36 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] there's nothing wrong with MS Outlook.....that a good Linux Live CD won't cure | Dec 03 14:36 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Less OpenSUSE, More Microsoft Software at Novell | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 93 KB | Dec 03 14:36 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Gnome should be an ideal DE for the Scots, with "Naughty Lass" as it's default file manager | Dec 03 14:40 | |
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| fewa | schestowitz, Egypt too | Dec 03 14:42 |
| fewa | in addition to Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel, etc, etc, etc | Dec 03 14:42 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] With #Microsoft #Monopoly in Check, #BillGates Proceeds to Creating More Monopolies http://ur1.ca/h29q | Dec 03 14:51 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: With Microsoft Monopoly in Check, Bill Gates Proceeds to Creating More Monopolies | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 101.67 KB | Dec 03 14:51 |
| schestowitz | CZC is old | Dec 03 14:53 |
| schestowitz | fewa: what about them? | Dec 03 14:55 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] there should be an Aussie version of the Drobo called the Drongo | Dec 03 15:04 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/03/vm_birmingham/ | Dec 03 15:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Virgin Media network goes titsup in Brum • The Register .::. Size~: 26.69 KB | Dec 03 15:08 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Kommunity! Kommunity! Kommunity! | Dec 03 15:08 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.seattlepi.com/business/1700ap_us_rebuilding_the_internet_hawaii.html?source=rss | Dec 03 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | Probably a bunch of rich people looking for an excuse to travel to Hawaii | Dec 03 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/02/microsoft-sells-old-fast-search-transfer-businesses | Dec 03 15:19 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Sells Fast Search & Transfer Businesses | WebProNews .::. Size~: 32.42 KB | Dec 03 15:19 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft sells more of itself away | Dec 03 15:19 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/03/new-film-website-offers-12000-clips-from-major-studios | Dec 03 15:21 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: New Film Website Offers 12,000 Clips From Major Studios | WebProNews .::. Size~: 33.05 KB | Dec 03 15:21 |
| ThistleWeb | I spotted a "more from Bing" link on IMDB the other day which made me wonder if they now had MS funding and influence, but I think it's more a "Bing is one of many sources of news" | Dec 03 15:22 |
| ThistleWeb | it seems to vary the "more from" source with each page | Dec 03 15:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbwosqN-UfM | Dec 03 15:25 |
| schestowitz | yes, dictionary site I used did that too | Dec 03 15:25 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft pays them for it | Dec 03 15:26 |
| schestowitz | Let Microsoft burn cash, it obviously gains no market share of significance | Dec 03 15:26 |
| schestowitz | The Rupe deal is now off | Dec 03 15:26 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/03/microsoft_google/ | Dec 03 15:26 |
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| MinceR | well, google did what he wanted, didn't it? | Dec 03 15:27 |
| ThistleWeb | I wonder if a paywall is something they have to try and fail for themselves, before they accept it's a non starter. Otherwise they can hide behind the victim role and accuse those who want them to fail of trying to stop them | Dec 03 15:31 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll act like the MAFIAA | Dec 03 15:31 |
| ThistleWeb | they'll all do some experiments with paywalls, and watch their numbers plummet, as their free competitiors rise | Dec 03 15:31 |
| ThistleWeb | the real question is, are there enough people who would pay to make it worthwhile. I suspect that's where their veiw of reality is rather skewed around their own deluded self worth | Dec 03 15:32 |
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| schestowitz | IFG keeps hammering on Google.... | Dec 03 15:42 |
| schestowitz | *IDG http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2009/120109-why-chrome-os-is-no.html?fsrc=rss-linux-news&source=NWWNLE_nlt_linux_2009-12-02 | Dec 03 15:42 |
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| schestowitz | [15:31] <MinceR> maybe they'll act like the MAFIAA | Dec 03 15:42 |
| schestowitz | They can't sue | Dec 03 15:42 |
| MinceR | they can complain that those evil people won't pay for news made by their hard work | Dec 03 15:43 |
| MinceR | not recognizing that their business model is failing | Dec 03 15:43 |
| MinceR | or not wanting to confess to it | Dec 03 15:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.kdenews.org/2009/12/02/krita-team-seeking-sponsorship-take-krita-next-level | Dec 03 15:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Krita Team Seeking Sponsorship to Take Krita to Next Level | KDE.news .::. Size~: 37.34 KB | Dec 03 15:44 |
| schestowitz | "Will code for food!" | Dec 03 15:44 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] anyone think the url wikipaedophile.com would be a great site for the authorities to colaberate on catching people? | Dec 03 15:49 | |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] or wikipedo.com | Dec 03 15:49 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aascJ2Oy5xVc&pos=2 | Dec 03 16:00 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, right :P | Dec 03 16:00 |
| schestowitz | ThistleWeb: they already have Killer Virgin in Wikipedia | Dec 03 16:02 |
| schestowitz | Coz' an album cover makes one a molester, of course | Dec 03 16:02 |
| ThistleWeb | yeah I remember that | Dec 03 16:02 |
| ThistleWeb | I just thought the pronunciation of the name wiky pedia sorta suited it | Dec 03 16:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.boingboing.net/2009/11/30/bbc-photographer-pre.html | Dec 03 16:04 |
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| ThistleWeb | lol, gotta love the BBC | Dec 03 16:05 |
| schestowitz | http://greenidol.in/climate/take-action-on-climate-change-today/ | Dec 03 16:08 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Take action on climate change Today! | Green Idol .::. Size~: 33.82 KB | Dec 03 16:08 |
| kecskebak | Take action? I'll let UEA know Python has a good random number generator if they need to fabricate some more figures. | Dec 03 16:09 |
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| schestowitz | bbl | Dec 03 16:17 |
| kecskebak | http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16371 | Dec 03 16:17 |
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| DaemonFC | IE is down to 58.69% | Dec 03 16:21 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all | Dec 03 19:01 |
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| Omar87 | anyone there? | Dec 03 19:06 |
| schestowitz | Wow. Turns out Erik Price worked for the CIA while in Blackwater | Dec 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | What a bunch of criminals | Dec 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | It's like another McBride | Dec 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Now he's quitting and he says he wants to be a high school teacher. *LOL* | Dec 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: what's up? | Dec 03 19:13 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091201/1041237150.shtml | Dec 03 19:24 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: Hey! | Dec 03 19:27 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: man, there's this guy who's my friend's friend, and he works for Microsoft. | Dec 03 19:27 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: My friend is also a Microsoft freak who knows nothing but Microsoft, and she drinks way too much of the Microsoft kool-aid. | Dec 03 19:29 |
| schestowitz | Show her alternatives | Dec 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Many don't know about them | Dec 03 19:30 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: sometimes she posts something (on FB) about on those MS junkware, so I comment about how bloated it is. | Dec 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know about many as a kid | Dec 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Not everything from Microsoft is bloated | Dec 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | Some is low quality, e.g. Windows, IE | Dec 03 19:30 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: then, all of a sudden you find her friend (the MS guy) comes in to defend his master. | Dec 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | But I am more interested in criminal behaviour of the company, not its products | Dec 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Same with Intel | Dec 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Intel can make decent chips, not the best | Dec 03 19:31 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: And he's soooo damn pathetic. :D | Dec 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | In fact, with real competition Intel would be in the gutter | Dec 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091202/1251237166.shtml | Dec 03 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: don't get angry over it | Dec 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | It leads nowhere | Dec 03 19:31 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: Same here, I'm more interested in their criminal behavior. | Dec 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Explain about other option and be civil | Dec 03 19:31 |
| schestowitz | Otherwise you put them off like Mac fans | Dec 03 19:32 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: no, I don't really get angry. | Dec 03 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Those who buy anything that has the Apple logo and Jobs' blessing | Dec 03 19:32 |
| schestowitz | It's a "cult" phenomenon | Dec 03 19:32 |
| schestowitz | When people start to identify themselves with brands | Dec 03 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Like Nike | Dec 03 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Like Timberland | Dec 03 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Like Apple | Dec 03 19:32 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: but I do enjoy being a bit harsh on them. | Dec 03 19:32 |
| schestowitz | Like Ford for some | Dec 03 19:32 |
| schestowitz | They want to project the PR image of these companies | Dec 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | For some that's Microsoft | Dec 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Gates buys a lot of PR | Dec 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | So they think of him as "successful" | Dec 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Heh. Some think of him as "charitable" | Dec 03 19:33 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: sometimes I add a little sense of humiliation to my tone. | Dec 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Would they think the same of Rockefeller? *LOL* | Dec 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | World's biggest thieves to be seen as heroes.... power of PR | Dec 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: you can tell them that real users use real systems | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Like LSE | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Or NASA | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Wall Street | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Even the world's bank | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | They use Linus | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | *GNU/Linux | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | WIndows is too much of a toy | Dec 03 19:34 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: exactly, that's what I do. | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Good for testing stuff on some pC that's not connected to the Web (malware) | Dec 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Don't worry | Dec 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is quickly shedding off parts | Dec 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | It's borrowing moneyt | Dec 03 19:35 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: regarding Rockefeller: "Microsoft has innovated nothing. The thing I find most contemptible is Bill's lying, this thing about innovating. It makes me want to puke. That's innovation a la Rockefeller, not innovation a la Edison." | Dec 03 19:35 |
| Omar87 | -Oracle Corp Chairman Larry Ellison | Dec 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | Today it's selling more of itself | Dec 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/12/02/microsoft-sells-old-fast-search-transfer-businesses | Dec 03 19:35 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Microsoft Sells Fast Search & Transfer Businesses | WebProNews .::. Size~: 32.45 KB | Dec 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | That's a large-scale departure of many employees | Dec 03 19:36 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: yeah | Dec 03 19:38 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: he's just very pathetic. | Dec 03 19:38 |
| schestowitz | There's Razorfish too | Dec 03 19:38 |
| schestowitz | And 800 layoffs (even more unannounced) a month ago | Dec 03 19:38 |
| schestowitz | They are going down | Dec 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | cannibalizing their less important divisions to finance new ones | Dec 03 19:39 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: he claims that support and maintainence costs of Red Hat systems are much more than those of Win2008. :) | Dec 03 19:39 |
| schestowitz | I you can tell your friend to learn Linux in the weekend and prepare for the next job | Dec 03 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Business fails often because they just assume that everyone will rush to give them all their money | Dec 03 19:39 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: according to Microsoft | Dec 03 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | That's where Comcast makes most of their money, Pay Per View and tiered cable service | Dec 03 19:39 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: >> Which is exactly why a Non-profit foundation here in Jordan has chosen Red Hat over Microsoft, lol! :P | Dec 03 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | Comcast can't just give a flat rate for any tier of service | Dec 03 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | they make their service look affordable with 6 month promo prices | Dec 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: "Microsoft lies, cheats and bribes" and one person put it | Dec 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Can't recall his name | Dec 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | They lie, lie, lie | Dec 03 19:40 |
| schestowitz | Like they did about netbooks | Dec 03 19:41 |
| schestowitz | The Microsoft who cried "Wolf!" | Dec 03 19:41 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20091201/1956557154.shtml | Dec 03 19:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1082_signs.jpg | Dec 03 19:43 |
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| schestowitz | Google's coming, Omar87 http://blogs.computerworld.com/15174/dell_releases_unofficial_chrome_os_linux_desktop | Dec 03 19:44 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Dell releases unofficial Chrome OS Linux desktop - Computerworld Blogs .::. Size~: 136.47 KB | Dec 03 19:44 |
| schestowitz | And later we need to worry about Goolisation of Linux | Dec 03 19:44 |
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| Omar87 | schestowitz: wow, I really should keep an eye on Vaughan-Nichols' blog from time to time. | Dec 03 19:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/17/ptm-scams-scamville-rockefeller-senatehearing-wallofshame/ | Dec 03 19:50 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: good? | Dec 03 19:51 |
| schestowitz | wallc doesn't trust him | Dec 03 19:51 |
| schestowitz | He flip-flops | Dec 03 19:51 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz: really? | Dec 03 19:51 |
| schestowitz | http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-group-refuses-bait-drm-breaker-goes-to-the-police-091201/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Torrentfreak+%28Torrentfreak%29 | Dec 03 19:52 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: I'd subscribe to him, still | Dec 03 19:52 |
| schestowitz | http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/105726 | Dec 03 19:54 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #LHC knocked out by ANOTHER power failure http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/02/lhc_power_failure_again/ | Dec 03 19:56 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: LHC knocked out by ANOTHER power failure • The Register .::. Size~: 31.75 KB | Dec 03 19:56 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Poppets are not as good as I remember them being as a kid :( | Dec 03 19:59 | |
| trmanco | it needs more schnell | Dec 03 20:00 |
| *trmanco thinks he spelled a word wrong | Dec 03 20:01 | |
| schestowitz | Poppets? | Dec 03 20:01 |
| trmanco | no | Dec 03 20:01 |
| trmanco | LHC | Dec 03 20:01 |
| schestowitz | Maybe puppets with their eyes popping out of the sockets | Dec 03 20:01 |
| trmanco | lol | Dec 03 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: The only reason Comcast and AT&T get away with what they do is because it's hard to actually prove they acted as a cartel | Dec 03 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | everyone knows they are, but it's what you can prove in court that matters | Dec 03 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | they agree to keep their services bad and their prices high | Dec 03 20:03 |
| schestowitz | You mean expenses low and their prices high | Dec 03 20:13 |
| schestowitz | -> high profit margins | Dec 03 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Send support overseas, buy AstroTurfers, overcharge | Dec 03 20:14 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Syfy finally made a movie worth watching | Dec 03 20:18 |
| schestowitz | http://blog.taragana.com/n/british-prime-minister-announces-83-million-in-new-aid-to-pakistan-to-stabilize-border-area-239130/ | Dec 03 20:18 |
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| schestowitz | And troops :-| | Dec 03 20:18 |
| DaemonFC | their last one worth watching was like 10 years ago | Dec 03 20:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ILa_4uhJkM&feature=related | Dec 03 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | I set the DVR to record both parts of it so I can watch them together and skip commercials | Dec 03 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | I may buy the DVD if it's good | Dec 03 20:19 |
| schestowitz | No, no DVD... | Dec 03 20:19 |
| DaemonFC | 4 hours of movie probably means my DVR is recording 30 minutes of commercials | Dec 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Dec 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | or more | Dec 03 20:20 |
| schestowitz | You are not allowed to rip it and the medium goes obsolete after a while | Dec 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: DVD is not difficult to rip | Dec 03 20:20 |
| schestowitz | You want the movie, not some plastic | Dec 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | not even a 1:1 copy dumped to ISO | Dec 03 20:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: DVD probably is not going to be supplanted by Blu Ray any time in the near future | Dec 03 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | I told my mom about the Blu Ray mandatory firmware upgrades | Dec 03 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | that soured her on it | Dec 03 20:21 |
| DaemonFC | just watch what happens when people over 50 try to prod and poke around with Blu Ray | Dec 03 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | people who don't have the internet or can't figure out how to get the mandatory firmware upgrades onto the player so that the new disc will play | Dec 03 20:22 |
| DaemonFC | even for people that do know what they're doing, it's a pain in the ass | Dec 03 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | a disc player should never need internet access, and it should be a stand-alone unit that plays any disc that conforms to the disc standard | Dec 03 20:23 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: It's gotten so bad that in order to try and force you to buy Blu Ray, they had to put a standard DVD on the same disc | Dec 03 20:24 |
| DaemonFC | Is this pathetic? I say "yes". | Dec 03 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | it's so they can phase out the players silently | Dec 03 20:25 |
| DaemonFC | since every disc is both formats, there won't be any complaining, at first | Dec 03 20:26 |
| schestowitz | "New" as reason to sell more | Dec 03 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Or "green" | Dec 03 20:27 |
| schestowitz | EVen if it produces more pollution to manufacture a replacement | Dec 03 20:27 |
| schestowitz | http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?entryid=2670&blogid=14 | Dec 03 20:27 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Blu Ray is terrible for the environment | Dec 03 20:27 |
| DaemonFC | the processing power required to decrypt the discs alone means the player is using at least half again as much electricity than a DVD player | Dec 03 20:28 |
| DaemonFC | you saw what they had to use to make the HD-A1 HD-DVD player, it was basically a 3 Ghz Pentium 4 and 1 GB of RAM | Dec 03 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | Why would you need that to decode a simple MPEG-2 stream? | Dec 03 20:29 |
| DaemonFC | that's some serious hardware just to play back a disc | Dec 03 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | and not even a DVD player I bought in 1998 was as large as a Blu Ray player is now | Dec 03 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | thought DVD players were $300 for an entry level model | Dec 03 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | *though | Dec 03 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | better players with HD upconversion are $30 now and less than half the size | Dec 03 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of this is about finding ways to up the price point they expect you to pay, not just for movies but for players | Dec 03 20:32 |
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| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] KDE on television (Fox): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcRH61T2tOQ | Dec 03 20:35 | |
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| sebsebseb | hi | Dec 03 21:26 |
| schestowitz | Folks, help LG by submitting an article or two... http://linuxgazette.net/169/lg_backpage.html | Dec 03 21:31 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: The Back Page LG #169 .::. Size~: 7.66 KB | Dec 03 21:31 |
| cubezzz | ink-media project is very similar to OLPC and it's Canadian | Dec 03 21:35 |
| cubezzz | but I don't think they have done any mass production | Dec 03 21:35 |
| cubezzz | plus it's running doze :-/ | Dec 03 21:35 |
| schestowitz | OLPC reminds me of CrunchPad | Dec 03 21:42 |
| schestowitz | No room for marketing, support, etc | Dec 03 21:42 |
| schestowitz | Too small, no capita | Dec 03 21:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/dec/02/crunchpad-computer-tablet-scrapped | Dec 03 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Altogether, OLPC does OK now | Dec 03 21:43 |
| schestowitz | Modest gains | Dec 03 21:43 |
| schestowitz | If someone here writes technical blogs, hen LG is worth submitting at least a copy to | Dec 03 21:43 |
| schestowitz | They need howto/articles | Dec 03 21:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.sourcewire.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=52253 | Dec 03 21:44 |
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| cubezzz | OLPC is a real product | Dec 03 21:44 |
| cubezzz | Crunchpad didn't ship AFAIK | Dec 03 21:45 |
| schestowitz | A shame.... | Dec 03 21:45 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] hmm | Dec 03 21:45 | |
| schestowitz | Boy, I love those new New Geo wallpapers I got | Dec 03 21:45 |
| cubezzz | as for ink-media, I've seen the prototype, that's it | Dec 03 21:45 |
| schestowitz | About 500 fantastic photos... contestants | Dec 03 21:45 |
| schestowitz | And plasma-desktop revolves them since yesterday | Dec 03 21:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/automatically-download-all-wallpapers.html | Dec 03 21:46 |
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| cubezzz | launching a new netbook device probably takes a lot of money, millions probably | Dec 03 21:46 |
| cubezzz | a lot of the parts are off the shelf | Dec 03 21:47 |
| cubezzz | just injection molding for the case, custom bezel for the cdrom and off you go :) | Dec 03 21:48 |
| schestowitz | Shannon VanWagner with good advocacy... http://www.zdnet.co.uk/talkback/0,1000001161,39846686-39001121c-20105836o,00.htm | Dec 03 21:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Hats off to you, for trying Linux in the first place - Ubuntu 9.10 brings karma to the market - Talkback at ZDNet UK .::. Size~: 94.44 KB | Dec 03 21:48 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: yes, but then testing | Dec 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Durability | Dec 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | A lot of devices are off the shelf, but people don't realise it | Dec 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | They must be thinking that Apple makes its iPod in CA | Dec 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Real story: | Dec 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Companies integrate boards | Dec 03 21:49 |
| cubezzz | there's not too many companies that can make all the parts | Dec 03 21:49 |
| cubezzz | perhaps no company can make all of them | Dec 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Pick process from fab, combine with other bits in Asia | Dec 03 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Then integrate at some assembler with hard-drive, which in turn is a similar process | Dec 03 21:50 |
| schestowitz | TONS of energy goes into making those parts | Dec 03 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Machines.... | Dec 03 21:50 |
| cubezzz | schestowitz, even Amiga 1000 wasn't 100% commodore | Dec 03 21:50 |
| cubezzz | keyboards were made by Mitsumi | Dec 03 21:50 |
| schestowitz | Eventually, in Apple's case, some company like Foxxcon will just put it in the casing and carve the GLORIOUS HOLY Apple logo on it | Dec 03 21:51 |
| cubezzz | probably the floppy drive was made from someone else too | Dec 03 21:51 |
| schestowitz | And then the army of the Apple Cult will go buy it cause Apple said so | Dec 03 21:51 |
| schestowitz | v1.0 will always have tons of bug | Dec 03 21:51 |
| cubezzz | cpu was motorola :) | Dec 03 21:51 |
| schestowitz | But it's from Apple, so the cult won't mind | Dec 03 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Later it'll mature. | Dec 03 21:51 |
| cubezzz | rebranders, not true manufacturers | Dec 03 21:51 |
| schestowitz | Like IBM... | Dec 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Hitachi HDD, IIRC | Dec 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Now it's passed to Lenovo anyway | Dec 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | But look at the components | Dec 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Your PC is never a HP or Dell or whatever | Dec 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | They are names/assemblers | Dec 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | With support | Dec 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | And sales skills | Dec 03 21:52 |
| cubezzz | Panasonic did a great job with the Toughbook, an excellent example of good packaging and design | Dec 03 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Kickbacks departments :-) | Dec 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Almost everything in _all_ your electronic comes in boat from the west (of Canada) | Dec 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | *nics | Dec 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Panasonic?? | Dec 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Where? | Dec 03 21:53 |
| cubezzz | you haven't heard about Toughbook? | Dec 03 21:54 |
| cubezzz | Japanese manufacturing, very good, maybe the best | Dec 03 21:54 |
| schestowitz | Darlington hires town tweeter http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2009/dec/01/darlington-twitterer-in-residence-local-news | Dec 03 21:54 |
| schestowitz | I heard of it | Dec 03 21:54 |
| schestowitz | But I didn't know it was Panasonic | Dec 03 21:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=Toughbook+schestowitz&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8 | Dec 03 21:54 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Toughbook schestowitz - Google Search .::. Size~: 28.27 KB | Dec 03 21:55 |
| schestowitz | Sam Varghese defeatism= surprise. http://www.itwire.com/content/view/29767/1090/ | Dec 03 21:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itworld.com/security/87791/black-screens-whoops | Dec 03 22:00 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Black Screens of Whoops! | ITworld .::. Size~: 81.54 KB | Dec 03 22:00 |
| schestowitz | Iran torture whistleblower died from poison in salad http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/02/iran-whistleblower-torture-protesters | Dec 03 22:02 |
| schestowitz | Attempts to silence opponents of war: http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=36964 | Dec 03 22:03 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: îâæéï äëéáåù Occupation Magazine .::. Size~: 16.08 KB | Dec 03 22:03 |
| schestowitz | Judges rule against government over secret evidence in terror cases http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/01/secret-evidence-trial-terrorism-government | Dec 03 22:03 |
| schestowitz | More from over here... | Dec 03 22:04 |
| schestowitz | It's heating up | Dec 03 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Bush will go to jail one day | Dec 03 22:04 |
| schestowitz | Nobel prize winner doubles scale of occupation of a distant country that exists on top of oil pipes... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/dec/02/barack-obama-afghanistan-strategy-war | Dec 03 22:05 |
| schestowitz | He's sending another 52,000 people in uniform to die for Big Oil companies | Dec 03 22:05 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAn-DfVfFEg | Dec 03 22:41 |
| Ender2070_ | Plan9 is awesome | Dec 03 22:48 |
| *_goblin (n=goblin@94-193-188-104.zone7.bethere.co.uk) has joined #boycottnovell | Dec 03 22:58 | |
| schestowitz | Hey, _goblin | Dec 03 22:59 |
| _goblin | hi! | Dec 03 23:02 |
| _goblin | just going through COLA for today! | Dec 03 23:02 |
| *schestowitz listens to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFobCTg7lw&feature=related | Dec 03 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | Did you hear about Erik Prince quitting? | Dec 03 23:07 |
| schestowitz | The neocons destroyed the nations and now take the loot aside | Dec 03 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Veyr infuriating | Dec 03 23:07 |
| _goblin | Ive just got back from work and found a plethora of mail directed at me in regards to Mono..... | Dec 03 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Mail?? | Dec 03 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Who from? | Dec 03 23:11 |
| _goblin | Average users... | Dec 03 23:11 |
| _goblin | you would think that it would be hate.... | Dec 03 23:11 |
| _goblin | Im actually taken aback | Dec 03 23:11 |
| _goblin | I think where my blog differs to most is that I have a readerbase of many "average users" | Dec 03 23:12 |
| _goblin | they don't understand what mono is...but don't want it on their systems.... | Dec 03 23:12 |
| _goblin | RMS is to thank for that I believe.... | Dec 03 23:12 |
| schestowitz | Better mail then jail | Dec 03 23:13 |
| _goblin | Im going to publish a few.... | Dec 03 23:13 |
| schestowitz | _goblin: mono means mononucleosis | Dec 03 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Nobody wants *THAT* | Dec 03 23:13 |
| _goblin | I think Ive picked up a LUG following too....(Im checking out if its genuine) | Dec 03 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Which LUG? | Dec 03 23:14 |
| schestowitz | A UK-based one? | Dec 03 23:14 |
| schestowitz | Manchester LUG was first in the UK | Dec 03 23:14 |
| _goblin | yep, but I won't say until Ive confirmed it is genuine..... | Dec 03 23:14 |
| _goblin | don't want to give the lurkers here any fodder... | Dec 03 23:14 |
| _goblin | If it is genuine, Ive been invited to the next meeting.... | Dec 03 23:15 |
| _goblin | which gives me a little dilema... | Dec 03 23:15 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] Anonyma - Eine Frau in Berlin (2008) is an excellent movie http://tinyurl.com/ykqcucv | Dec 03 23:15 | |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Anonyma - Eine Frau in Berlin (2008) .::. Size~: 58.87 KB | Dec 03 23:15 |
| _goblin | I shouldn't really attend...I don't want to be photographed.... | Dec 03 23:15 |
| _goblin | Interesting.... | Dec 03 23:21 |
| _goblin | in a google wave poll the question is asked "Is Windows 7 better than Ubuntu 9.10?" | Dec 03 23:22 |
| _goblin | the results are as follows (so far) | Dec 03 23:22 |
| _goblin | 68 say yes. | Dec 03 23:22 |
| _goblin | 59 say no. | Dec 03 23:22 |
| _goblin | and | Dec 03 23:22 |
| _goblin | 31 are undecided... | Dec 03 23:22 |
| schestowitz | Attend what? | Dec 03 23:23 |
| _goblin | lug meeting. | Dec 03 23:23 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see... | Dec 03 23:23 |
| schestowitz | I'm listening to Vidal while read it | Dec 03 23:23 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjoV29dt4AQ&feature=channel | Dec 03 23:23 |
| schestowitz | BTW... are you gonna be around London in 2 months from now? | Dec 03 23:23 |
| _goblin | yep... | Dec 03 23:23 |
| _goblin | live not far from it... | Dec 03 23:24 |
| _goblin | on train line | Dec 03 23:24 |
| _goblin | and work in it! | Dec 03 23:24 |
| _goblin | you coming down my way? | Dec 03 23:26 |
| schestowitz | Yes | Dec 03 23:29 |
| schestowitz | Documentary movie for national TV... I was called in | Dec 03 23:29 |
| _goblin | nice! | Dec 03 23:30 |
| _goblin | are you able to elaborate? | Dec 03 23:30 |
| schestowitz | I guess. | Dec 03 23:30 |
| _goblin | whats it on? | Dec 03 23:30 |
| schestowitz | My part will be re Gartner Group. They have participated in fear mongering campaigns for profit and I have proof to show it (court documents and all). | Dec 03 23:31 |
| schestowitz | The programme is about swine flu | Dec 03 23:31 |
| _goblin | Excellent! | Dec 03 23:31 |
| _goblin | yep if we could meet up that would be great.... | Dec 03 23:31 |
| _goblin | like I said before, the wife's a great cook....if you need accomodation......Goblin mansions. | Dec 03 23:32 |
| schestowitz | That's OK. They'd cover all my expenses | Dec 03 23:46 |
| schestowitz | OK, done: http://boycottnovell.com/2009/12/03/new-linux-x-server/ | Dec 03 23:47 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Links 03/12/2009: New Linux, X Server 1.7.3 Released | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 141.54 KB | Dec 03 23:47 |
| sebsebseb | jono: Good article, and six months release cycle is fine. http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009120301835INUB Not a direct link to the article, since it's a link to where I found out about it. With two negative comments. If there had been no comments I would have done a direct link. It's one where Carla asks you questions regarding the six month releases. | Dec 03 23:48 |
| phIRCe-local | Title: Linux Today - 'Ubuntu Needs a Longer Release Schedule!' .::. Size~: 81.11 KB | Dec 03 23:48 |
| sebsebseb | Hope you didn't mind the highlight :) (assuming your client high lights) | Dec 03 23:51 |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: they got one of your articles on the homepage of linuxtoday at the moment by the way | Dec 03 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Really? | Dec 03 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Which one? | Dec 03 23:57 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Currently looking at Moonshell 2(stable)....much improved over previous versions... feature to follow on Openbytes #foss | Dec 03 23:57 | |
| schestowitz | I've been slow and distracted today. I'm gonna microblog and catch up for a while, then make some posts till I zzz....... | Dec 03 23:57 |
| jono | thanks sebsebseb | Dec 03 23:57 |
| sebsebseb | jono: I read your one about the negative Karmic feedback by the way, that was good as well | Dec 03 23:58 |
| jono | thanks sebsebseb, I appreciate the kind words :) | Dec 03 23:58 |
| schestowitz | jono writes well | Dec 03 23:59 |
| schestowitz | I took a look at his book | Dec 03 23:59 |
| jono | wow, thanks schestowitz :) | Dec 03 23:59 |
| -BNc/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Poll on Googlewave: Is Windows 7 better than Ubuntu 9.10? Results so far: 68 - yes, 59 - no and 31 are undecided. #linux #microsoft | Dec 03 23:59 | |
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