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| Diablo-D3 | why is this even an issue? | Feb 20 00:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | Ive been able to make Linux an AP for like | Feb 20 00:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | a fucking decade now | Feb 20 00:08 |
| MinceR | does m$ and crApple ever show new stuff to gnu/linux users? :> | Feb 20 00:09 |
| MinceR | it's always "yeah, we've been doing that for ages" | Feb 20 00:09 |
| *DaemonFC slaps mincer with hv.ko | Feb 20 00:20 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Richard Stallman and Bruce Perens Defamed by Trolls http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/19/defamed-by-access-employee/ | Feb 20 00:20 | |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 00:20 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, If you build Hyper-V drivers your kernel gets tainted as "crap" | Feb 20 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 00:20 |
| MinceR | :D | Feb 20 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | well, if the module is loaded anyway | Feb 20 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | I'm sure Novell will fix this and get it merged eventually :) | Feb 20 00:21 |
| MinceR | actually linux had paravirtualization and virtualized io before that :> | Feb 20 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.acetylcholine.com/node/60426 | Feb 20 00:22 |
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| DaemonFC | Linux 2.6.32.9-rc1 is out | Feb 20 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | 93 patches | Feb 20 00:22 |
| MinceR | (flash) (video) (audio) http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/702668/DICE-2010-Video-Design-Outside-The-Box.html | Feb 20 00:23 |
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| DaemonFC | I am too damned bored | Feb 20 00:26 |
| *DaemonFC is compiling 2.6.32.9-rc1 with bfs | Feb 20 00:26 | |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 00:26 |
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| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 00:28 |
| schestowitz | http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Foundation_announces_$2_million_grant_from_Google | Feb 20 00:30 |
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| shreddar | Well, it looks like Google is finished Acquiring On2. Now hopefully they'll realese the VP codecs royalty free. | Feb 20 00:35 |
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| schestowitz | "#pc2010 Seattlepi went from 170 journalists to roughly 8 to 10" Excellent! | Feb 20 00:35 |
| schestowitz | shreddar: let's hope | Feb 20 00:37 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmmmm....... http://www.iplayerconverter.co.uk/ | Feb 20 00:54 |
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| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/19/novell-rapidly-declining/ | Feb 20 00:54 |
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| MinceR | interest in novell, that is :> | Feb 20 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Novell too | Feb 20 00:56 |
| schestowitz | There is a correlation | Feb 20 00:56 |
| schestowitz | Provable one | Feb 20 00:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody How can news.bbc.co.uk possibly lead with the utterly trivial Tiger Woods story? pathetic #bbc #shame > tabloid | Feb 20 01:00 | |
| schestowitz | Some people game networks with fake networks of "Friends"... http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_i_became_the_robert_scoble_of_buzz.php | Feb 20 01:06 |
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| shreddar | That's why, back when I used social sites, I never added people with more than 50 "friends" no matter how cool they were to me. | Feb 20 01:10 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #TED #fail http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/17/last-post-on-sarah-silverman-v-ted/ 'nuff said. | Feb 20 01:14 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | schestowitz: TED is dead anyhow | Feb 20 01:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | the awesome wore off | Feb 20 01:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | this seems to be the final nail in the coffin | Feb 20 01:21 |
| schestowitz | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2010-02-19-n82.html | Feb 20 01:22 |
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| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: last year's had odd talks | Feb 20 01:23 |
| schestowitz | Misfits | Feb 20 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | well I dont get why they fucked up so badly on it | Feb 20 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | the recap on techcrunch puts it well | Feb 20 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | shes a shock comedian, she shocked while speaking about work she does for the disabled | Feb 20 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | she did what they invited her to do | Feb 20 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | and then they embarass themselves | Feb 20 01:23 |
| Diablo-D3 | so, seriously, Im not sure I want to be bothering with such a group anymore | Feb 20 01:24 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're... retarded. | Feb 20 01:24 |
| shreddar | I don't get sarah silverman or people who invite comedians they are sure hate to their mettings. | Feb 20 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: well, shes a shock comedian... you dont have to get her | Feb 20 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | I dont particularly care for the art, but thats what it is | Feb 20 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | you cant invite someone to do it and then bitch about someone doing it | Feb 20 01:25 |
| Diablo-D3 | it makes you look like a colossal douchebag | Feb 20 01:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | and TED, indeed, is as colossal as it comes atm. | Feb 20 01:26 |
| shreddar | yeah but people do it all the time now. | Feb 20 01:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | so? | Feb 20 01:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats how society works | Feb 20 01:26 |
| shreddar | Remember the White House Dinner Colbert got invited too. | Feb 20 01:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | someone does something popular, then everyone copies them. | Feb 20 01:26 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: yes, Colbert, an actor known for his outrageous truthyness. | Feb 20 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | This is what these people do, this is their job, and they are on the clock 24/7. | Feb 20 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | Don't like it? DON'T INVITE THEM YOU DUMB FUCKS. | Feb 20 01:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | Seriously, common sense is a fucking super power. | Feb 20 01:28 |
| shreddar | 'He He Why don't you guy's invite that Colbert fella he's funny ' - Bush | Feb 20 01:28 |
| Diablo-D3 | and indeed, he was quite funny ;) | Feb 20 01:28 |
| shreddar | 'Um..... okay mr president well see if he available" | Feb 20 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: but you see the problem, right? | Feb 20 01:29 |
| shreddar | I know | Feb 20 01:29 |
| Diablo-D3 | Its like inviting a black guy to a KKK rally, and then lynching him when he shows up and, you know, is black. | Feb 20 01:29 |
| shreddar | Well that's not exactly the same scenario there | Feb 20 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | It pretty much is. | Feb 20 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | Thats what these people are | Feb 20 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | they're comedians. | Feb 20 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | It doesn't turn off just because they're not "at work" | Feb 20 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | This is who they are | Feb 20 01:30 |
| Diablo-D3 | Its the type of person they are. | Feb 20 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | You don't stop being your color, your race, or your personality because one group dislikes it. | Feb 20 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | And what she spoke about really is true | Feb 20 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | this whole political correctness shit is bullshit | Feb 20 01:31 |
| Diablo-D3 | "oh well, they're not retarded, we cant use that word. they're 'mentally disabled'" | Feb 20 01:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | well fuck you palin | Feb 20 01:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | changing the words doesnt fix their disorder | Feb 20 01:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | it doesnt make them a whole person | Feb 20 01:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | it just hides away what they have to go through every single day | Feb 20 01:32 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: this is the larger issue | Feb 20 01:33 |
| MinceR | 022200 < Diablo-D3> Seriously, common sense is a fucking super power. | Feb 20 01:33 |
| MinceR | http://images.imabearmeow.com/comics/deadpool/commonsense.jpg | Feb 20 01:33 |
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| Diablo-D3 | TED basically said its okay for the general public to be ignorant fucks. | Feb 20 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: that better bedeadpool | Feb 20 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | IT IS! | Feb 20 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | WEE! | Feb 20 01:33 |
| MinceR | guess what :> | Feb 20 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | deadpool is awesome. | Feb 20 01:33 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 20 01:33 |
| shreddar | Yeah | Feb 20 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: I hope TED invites me | Feb 20 01:33 |
| shreddar | What is TED? | Feb 20 01:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'm going to create a speech so laden with non-PC terms | Feb 20 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: see wikipedia | Feb 20 01:34 |
| MinceR | do they allow such speeches? | Feb 20 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a thing where smart people go and be smart | Feb 20 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: nope | Feb 20 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | well "nope" | Feb 20 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | everybodys considered an adult there | Feb 20 01:34 |
| Diablo-D3 | there has been no general rules on what you can and cant do as long as its related to what you were invited to speak on | Feb 20 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | within the general realm of doing shit | Feb 20 01:35 |
| Diablo-D3 | bill gates released mosquitoes on one audience | Feb 20 01:35 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/19/eveningnews/main6224726.shtml | Feb 20 01:35 |
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| Diablo-D3 | someone else showed a graphic video of a female pig being artifically impregnated | Feb 20 01:36 |
| DaemonFC | "Lawsuit Claims High School Used Remote-Control Webcam to Watch Students at Home" | Feb 20 01:36 |
| Diablo-D3 | so saying palin is retarded for being so politically correct is pretty much in the same ballpark | Feb 20 01:36 |
| shreddar | So it's a conference for people suffering from USI (Unwarrented self-importance) | Feb 20 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: well no | Feb 20 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | theres a lot of really interesting people | Feb 20 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | not all of them are useless yet rich douchebags | Feb 20 01:37 |
| Diablo-D3 | the bill gates ones have actually been pretty interesting | Feb 20 01:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | hes there on behalf of the gates foundation, not microsoft, btw | Feb 20 01:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | so the two hes done has been on things that are actually worth wotching | Feb 20 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | that would be the first thing I did with that laptop, disable the software that lets them do that | Feb 20 01:38 |
| MinceR | not that the gates foundation is any better or anything | Feb 20 01:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, it kind of is. | Feb 20 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | of just hand it back in at the end of the year with Linux on it | Feb 20 01:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | I wish they'd work faster and spend more | Feb 20 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | but they _do_ do the right kind of shit | Feb 20 01:39 |
| MinceR | not everyone agrees with you | Feb 20 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | no, not everyone does | Feb 20 01:39 |
| MinceR | but i guess you're used to that | Feb 20 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | their goals are in line with mine | Feb 20 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | I just wish they worked faster towards them. | Feb 20 01:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | bill wants to eradicate deceases we already have in the first world, for example | Feb 20 01:40 |
| MinceR | their goals aren't necessarily what you think they are | Feb 20 01:40 |
| MinceR | or what they say they are | Feb 20 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no, I'm aware of the side effects. | Feb 20 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | bill is doing it because its good for business | Feb 20 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | he hires a lot of third world workers | Feb 20 01:40 |
| MinceR | iirc they locked researches they were funding into m$ crap, for example | Feb 20 01:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | third world workers who dont get sick as often help make business more efficient. | Feb 20 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yes, theres a lot of shit that ANY large charity does. | Feb 20 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | Im against that, obviously | Feb 20 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | its inefficient. | Feb 20 01:41 |
| shreddar | I'd sue that school for all it's worth and bring criminal charges on everyone involved. | Feb 20 01:41 |
| MinceR | and they manipulate the press to support their criminal operations | Feb 20 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: dont worry, theres already one | Feb 20 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | shreddar: huge class action, its old news. | Feb 20 01:41 |
| MinceR | i don't think that gates should be allowed to control any money at all | Feb 20 01:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I think gates will eventually have to deal with his karma | Feb 20 01:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | everyone does eventually. | Feb 20 01:42 |
| MinceR | oh, please | Feb 20 01:42 |
| MinceR | you just sit back and hope that a mystical force will punish him eventually? | Feb 20 01:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | The ultimate punishment is one of the oldest maxims: When you die, you can't take it with you. | Feb 20 01:42 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter | Feb 20 01:42 |
| Diablo-D3 | for me and you, it doesnt matter | Feb 20 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | we dont have much | Feb 20 01:43 |
| MinceR | he will have spent a lot more money than most people on this planet get to | Feb 20 01:43 |
| MinceR | to improve his own life | Feb 20 01:43 |
| MinceR | money that he didn't deserve | Feb 20 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: you know, I would to | Feb 20 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | I think if I got rich, I think I'd finally buy a car. | Feb 20 01:43 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: and would you to resort to the criminal activities he has, to get it? | Feb 20 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I've been considering it | Feb 20 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | however, I too have alterier motives. | Feb 20 01:43 |
| MinceR | then i hope you fail | Feb 20 01:43 |
| Diablo-D3 | My goals are to eliminate the worst things in society | Feb 20 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | And shame the richest people in history AND push them out of business. | Feb 20 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | If I have to cheat and steal from them, oh well. | Feb 20 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | Fairs fair. | Feb 20 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | If you dont like it, you too can diaf. | Feb 20 01:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | I'm greedy and I get whatever I want. | Feb 20 01:44 |
| MinceR | steal from them or from everyone? | Feb 20 01:44 |
| MinceR | the m$ guys didn't only steal from other rich bastards | Feb 20 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | depends how you define rich | Feb 20 01:45 |
| MinceR | for example, they're stealing right now from me, via this hellhole of a country i'm living in | Feb 20 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | anyone who makes more than I should be naturally assisting me in my work. | Feb 20 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | A lot of people make more than me, yet I see no one coming to my aid. | Feb 20 01:45 |
| MinceR | that depends on what "your work" is | Feb 20 01:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | My work is the only work anyone ever should be interested in, MinceR. | Feb 20 01:46 |
| MinceR | you haven't defined it | Feb 20 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | Humanity, MinceR, humanity. | Feb 20 01:46 |
| MinceR | how do you define what "humanity" is? what the average human does? | Feb 20 01:46 |
| MinceR | because that isn't worth doing | Feb 20 01:46 |
| Diablo-D3 | Why is that anyone on earth should ever have to go without clean water? | Feb 20 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | Or good food? | Feb 20 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | Or medicine? | Feb 20 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | These are the only goals anyone with power should be persuing. | Feb 20 01:47 |
| MinceR | well, gates for example should | Feb 20 01:47 |
| MinceR | those who tread on the freedoms of all people don't deserve freedom. | Feb 20 01:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | Freedom, sadly, is an illusion. | Feb 20 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | This too must change. | Feb 20 01:48 |
| MinceR | there are grades of freedom | Feb 20 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | And too many people "fail" the grade, so to speak. | Feb 20 01:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | Not too much fault of their own, however | Feb 20 01:49 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 20 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | Although there are many countries that I wish would rise up and defeat their masters and declare they are no longer slaves | Feb 20 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | They do have it within them to do it, but they dont | Feb 20 01:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | China or Iran for example. | Feb 20 01:49 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] No coincidence that my tech choices tend to be for market players typically < 10%. Not to mention lifestyle choices. | Feb 20 01:50 | |
| schestowitz | people are dept isolated | Feb 20 01:50 |
| schestowitz | Separation makes any union weaker | Feb 20 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | Thanks to the Internet, there is no such thing as seperation. | Feb 20 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | Knowledge flows like water. | Feb 20 01:50 |
| MinceR | is there any country that isn't mostly slaves? | Feb 20 01:50 |
| MinceR | i don't think there is | Feb 20 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: Depends. | Feb 20 01:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | The US isn't nearly as bad as many state it is | Feb 20 01:51 |
| MinceR | at least the ones pointed to as the most free ones certainly aren't free at all | Feb 20 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | For everything wrong in the US, I can name many countries who have it worse. | Feb 20 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | As an American, we do have a duty to help everybody we can. | Feb 20 01:51 |
| MinceR | jesusland is a festering hole of slavery that spreads its taint wherever it can | Feb 20 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: unfortunately, this is not true. | Feb 20 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | Do not confuse Americans for the American government | Feb 20 01:51 |
| MinceR | that's where we get stuff like m$, crApple, DRM, software patents, the WCT and the ACTA | Feb 20 01:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | They, too, are not American. | Feb 20 01:52 |
| MinceR | usians support the usian government | Feb 20 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Microsoft is not an American company. | Feb 20 01:52 |
| shreddar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95fNgx8aCS8 | Feb 20 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: wrong | Feb 20 01:52 |
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| Diablo-D3 | I do not support the American government. | Feb 20 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | I support freedom and the US Constitution. | Feb 20 01:52 |
| MinceR | your two big parties have an overwhelming percentage of votes together | Feb 20 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | I support the work of our founding fathers. | Feb 20 01:52 |
| MinceR | and they both do the same thing | Feb 20 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: we do not have two parties, we have one. | Feb 20 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | And votes are meaningless. | Feb 20 01:52 |
| MinceR | your megacorps can do wht they're doing with impunity | Feb 20 01:52 |
| MinceR | s/wht/what/ | Feb 20 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | They are tiny pieces of paper. | Feb 20 01:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | Paper does not control me | Feb 20 01:53 |
| MinceR | and those megacorps reach far. | Feb 20 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | It does not own me. | Feb 20 01:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | I am my own person. | Feb 20 01:53 |
| MinceR | do you pay taxes? do you obey stupid laws? | Feb 20 01:53 |
| MinceR | are you under threat if you do not do so? | Feb 20 01:53 |
| MinceR | also, how much privacy do you have? | Feb 20 01:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@normative RT @emptywheel Yoo "thought w'd prohibited waterboarding..didn't recollect that we..said you could do it" /is this thing human? | Feb 20 01:54 | |
| Diablo-D3 | Silly questions. | Feb 20 01:54 |
| shreddar | "shitasspetfuckers keeps expanding, we're doing great! You don't like it? Fuckin' screw, it's shitasspetfuckers." | Feb 20 01:54 |
| MinceR | parse error near "shitasspetfuckers" | Feb 20 01:54 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@normative RT @emptywheel Yoo "thought w'd prohibited waterboarding..didn't recollect" / a difference that affects lives, capisce? | Feb 20 01:55 | |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: the megacorps and the state owns you more than you'd like to admit. | Feb 20 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they do not own me. | Feb 20 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | They may have paper that says they do | Feb 20 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | But their paper is not valid. | Feb 20 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | No one can own a free man. | Feb 20 01:55 |
| MinceR | and they exert power over you that says they do | Feb 20 01:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | Their power is nothing. | Feb 20 01:55 |
| MinceR | no it's not. | Feb 20 01:56 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Irony: Criminal trials are good enough 4 the state terrorists who architected #USA torture/rendition/arbitrary detention/aggression policies | Feb 20 01:56 | |
| MinceR | the guns they're pointing at you are very real. | Feb 20 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | They only how this so called 'power' because people like you admit they have it. | Feb 20 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: whats the worse they can do? Kill me? | Feb 20 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | What a useless threat. | Feb 20 01:56 |
| MinceR | they can do worse things to you if you don't prevent them by killing yourself or making them kill you | Feb 20 01:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | I do not fear death, MinceR. | Feb 20 01:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | No one should. | Feb 20 01:57 |
| MinceR | there is not only death. | Feb 20 01:57 |
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| MinceR | it was a fine talk but i really need to hit the sack now. :) | Feb 20 01:58 |
| MinceR | gn | Feb 20 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: you can't troll me, give up already. | Feb 20 01:58 |
| MinceR | i'm not trolling you | Feb 20 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | or that works | Feb 20 01:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | night MinceR | Feb 20 01:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.quadrocopter.us/index.php *LOL* how long before these fall from the sky on us? | Feb 20 02:01 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: also see http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html | Feb 20 02:01 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] 7 reasons to play retro titles – Puppy Arcade 7 is released! http://tinyurl.com/yc978c4 #emulation #linux #foss | Feb 20 02:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | Compiz kicks ass on the latest Mesa | Feb 20 02:08 |
| DaemonFC | something definitely has been fixed B-) | Feb 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23807683-parents-of-schoolgirl-smokers-illegally-fined-pound-50.do | Feb 20 02:08 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: kwin is good | Feb 20 02:08 |
| *DaemonFC plays with his newly FOSS-accelerated windows | Feb 20 02:08 | |
| schestowitz | > Your article is funny considering that the detective story "The Girl Who | Feb 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz | > Kicked the Hornets' Nest" by Stieg Larsson recommends that people use | Feb 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz | > Hotmail accounts to preserve their anonymity. (The main character of the | Feb 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz | > story is a self-professed hacker and a prominent part of the story is | Feb 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz | > the role of a "self-policing" and undocumented subdivision of the | Feb 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz | > national spy (security) apparatus.) While I was reading that story, I | Feb 20 02:08 |
| schestowitz | > thought that the author was being deliberately ironic or facetious. Your | Feb 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz | > article seems more realistic. I could also add that a co-worker | Feb 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz | > mentioned that he was disappointed that it was necessary to use | Feb 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz | > Silverlight in order to view the Winter Olympics online. And that was | Feb 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz | > only to view some clips. In order to view the real thing, one also must | Feb 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz | > subscribe to approved cable providers. Wouldn't want to hurt their | Feb 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz | > business with commodity Internet access, now would we? | Feb 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz | I've discovered some things recently that made me hate the Olympics, mostly censorship and imposition of debt while vacating people from their homes. | Feb 20 02:09 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* #Windows Mata --- http://softwarelivre.org/aurium/blog/windows-mata --- go !GNU/!Linux (♻l10n @schestowitz) | Feb 20 02:10 |
| schestowitz | Check it out | Feb 20 02:10 |
| DaemonFC | Wold of Goo works | Feb 20 02:10 |
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| DaemonFC | still busted | Feb 20 02:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @aurium: #Windows Mata --- http://softwarelivre.org/aurium/blog/windows-mata --- go #GNU / #Linux | Feb 20 02:12 | |
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| schestowitz | "@aurium that image is brilliant" | Feb 20 02:13 |
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| DaemonFC | in any case, I may just stick with the incomplete Mesa and x.ort ati driver | Feb 20 02:13 |
| DaemonFC | in many ways they're less frustrating | Feb 20 02:13 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] The Real Purpose of ACTA - or ACTA Exposed http://bit.ly/aqunui | Feb 20 02:36 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.itworldcanada.com/news/north-american-law-firms-outsourcing-legal-research/139992 | Feb 20 02:38 |
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| DaemonFC | I've decided to move the rest of my system to Lucid now | Feb 20 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | heh | Feb 20 02:41 |
| DaemonFC | done everything else to it, why now? | Feb 20 02:42 |
| schestowitz | Whoa. Daniel Kusnetzky joined the The 451 Group? He used to be in IDC scum. | Feb 20 02:44 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: "Why NOT"? | Feb 20 02:44 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw | Feb 20 02:45 |
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| DaemonFC | typos | Feb 20 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | bill gates got old | Feb 20 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | what the fuck happened to him | Feb 20 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | he got old | Feb 20 02:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | seriously, hes really goddamned old now | Feb 20 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | it happens | Feb 20 02:45 |
| DaemonFC | all the money in the world can't stop getting old and dying | Feb 20 02:46 |
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| DaemonFC | or to quote from Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey.... | Feb 20 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | "You may be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the reaper!" | Feb 20 02:48 |
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| DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 20 02:48 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9YpnklYhxY | Feb 20 02:49 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3gFIDiBq0E&feature=related | Feb 20 02:50 |
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| DaemonFC | good movie | Feb 20 02:50 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Its new user friendly, it’s easy to use…its based on Linux! – Meet Alex! http://tinyurl.com/yd7xenr #linux #foss #gnu | Feb 20 02:54 | |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* "Roy Novell" in the news (person's name)): http://www.thetelegraph.com/news/music-36507-concert-faculty.html | Feb 20 02:58 |
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| schestowitz | [02:48] <DaemonFC> "You may be a king or a little street sweeper, but sooner or later you dance with the reaper!" | Feb 20 02:59 |
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| schestowitz | AND... | Feb 20 02:59 |
| schestowitz | You 're take your money with you... anywhere | Feb 20 02:59 |
| DaemonFC | nope, spoiled kids will get it most likely | Feb 20 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | talking about Gates | Feb 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Being affluent is a different thing when there is immortality | Feb 20 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | that hasn't happened yet | Feb 20 03:00 |
| schestowitz | Many people die when they get financially comfortable (senior/retired with pension) | Feb 20 03:00 |
| DaemonFC | pretty much | Feb 20 03:01 |
| schestowitz | Kids is not the same | Feb 20 03:01 |
| schestowitz | They are their own individual | Feb 20 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, The financially comfortable thing though is government funded | Feb 20 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | the politicians know that only old people vote | Feb 20 03:01 |
| schestowitz | Not a property of the patent, just member of society with DNA that may be more similar | Feb 20 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | so they target a lot of handouts to buying old people | Feb 20 03:01 |
| schestowitz | Naaa. | Feb 20 03:01 |
| schestowitz | Baby boomers... | Feb 20 03:02 |
| schestowitz | Be very afraid now... | Feb 20 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, largest wave of old people in history | Feb 20 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | I am afraid | Feb 20 03:02 |
| schestowitz | Obama cuts NASA programs so that they can afford tombstones | Feb 20 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | they'll devour social security, keep ruining what's left of the world, then die | Feb 20 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | and I'll only be in my 40s be that point | Feb 20 03:02 |
| schestowitz | You? | Feb 20 03:03 |
| schestowitz | 40? | Feb 20 03:03 |
| schestowitz | Didn't you say you expect a heart attack before that? | Feb 20 03:03 |
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| DaemonFC | well, when something carries twice the rated load while people keep piling more onto it | Feb 20 03:04 |
| DaemonFC | I would imagine it would fail sooner than it should | Feb 20 03:04 |
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| DaemonFC | It's a good thing I'm not a homicidal maniac or I would have shot some people already | Feb 20 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | fragged them just for kicks | Feb 20 03:05 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 03:05 |
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| schestowitz | "Number eight, Arthur R. Novell, 30, turned himself in Feb. 8 just three hours after the sheriff's department issued the list. He was wanted for conspiracy." http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/02/four_of_top_10_onondaga_county.html | Feb 20 03:10 |
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| schestowitz | I was just looking at some "Novell" news and this one came up: http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10015155o-2000673651b,00.htm | Feb 20 03:27 |
| schestowitz | It's about us | Feb 20 03:27 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @NurtureGirl someone who I can only look up to for living her ideals as fully as she can... including being a great parent! | Feb 20 03:29 | |
| cubezzz | interesting | Feb 20 03:29 |
| cubezzz | ok, my only additional remark is... | Feb 20 03:30 |
| cubezzz | that I have supported doze and linux systems and the doze systems required more maintainence | Feb 20 03:31 |
| cubezzz | so leaving aside and emotional interpretations of net articles... | Feb 20 03:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/13-Alpha.RC1/Fedora/x86_64/iso/ | Feb 20 03:31 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: that's not the point | Feb 20 03:35 |
| schestowitz | He misses the context | Feb 20 03:35 |
| schestowitz | it's about Conficker and such things taking the whole hospital offline | Feb 20 03:35 |
| schestowitz | It happens a lot in the UK | Feb 20 03:35 |
| schestowitz | He focuses on one minor incident | Feb 20 03:35 |
| cubezzz | he's almost a microsoft apologist, but not quite | Feb 20 03:36 |
| schestowitz | Not purely | Feb 20 03:36 |
| cubezzz | he's a middle of the road guy | Feb 20 03:36 |
| schestowitz | I saw him before | Feb 20 03:36 |
| cubezzz | hmmm? | Feb 20 03:36 |
| schestowitz | He's new to Linux | Feb 20 03:36 |
| schestowitz | Anyway, he talks about Ubuntu | Feb 20 03:36 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu is NOT for mission-critical thing | Feb 20 03:37 |
| schestowitz | RHEL is | Feb 20 03:37 |
| schestowitz | gn | Feb 20 03:37 |
| cubezzz | later :) | Feb 20 03:37 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Today i am going to write a letter, that i won't post it <3 :-) | Feb 20 03:37 | |
| cubezzz | people need redunancy for reliability | Feb 20 03:38 |
| cubezzz | you can't just have one way of doing things | Feb 20 03:38 |
| cubezzz | like if such and such fails then you're screwed | Feb 20 03:38 |
| cubezzz | take your internet connection for example... | Feb 20 03:39 |
| cubezzz | your dsl or cable modem fails you are down | Feb 20 03:39 |
| cubezzz | if you are behind a router and that fails you are down | Feb 20 03:40 |
| cubezzz | power failures, ups battery failing, or other hardware failures | Feb 20 03:40 |
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| DaemonFC | those are some powerful onions they have down there | Feb 20 03:59 |
| DaemonFC | one little piece from my sandwich earlier has my apartment reeking of onion | Feb 20 04:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Ron's second law: the hardest part of getting what you want is deciding what you actually want. http://bit.ly/amiBMa #lisp #code | Feb 20 04:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Bo Peabody: Why #Facebook & @Twitter will always be crappy #business es. http://bit.ly/cMiQLa #strategy #media #advertising #vc | Feb 20 04:32 | |
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| yuhong | After making the Vista partition active, I finally were able to install Vista SP2. | Feb 20 04:39 |
| yuhong | It wasn't until I searched in the cbs.log files that I figured out that was why Vista SP2 install was failing. | Feb 20 04:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #followfriday @ghall49 is too smart for me to avoid re-tweeting. Follow him yourself and cut out the middleman. | Feb 20 04:45 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] I note that the #ubuntu firefox addon is installed & enabled by default which is kinda OK, but it does not allow uninstall, only disable :/ | Feb 20 05:01 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Letter finished! will read it again whenever i feel bad or alone :-) Now back to python ;-) | Feb 20 05:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] What the hell good is a "standard" like ISO-27002 if you have to pay $1000 to obtain a copy? | Feb 20 05:04 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[tracyrreed] If a copy of ISO-27002 were to somehow arrive at treed@tracyreed.org from an anonymous gmail I could get over being upset about it. | Feb 20 05:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@dceiver Wrong....Wrong!....WRONG!! http://bit.ly/aP8Y8Y // and a hoax | Feb 20 05:26 | |
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| cubezzz | "The browser choice screen, shown below, will present you with a list of leading browsers. In keeping with our agreement with the European Commission, this list is presented in random order." | Feb 20 05:43 |
| cubezzz | http://microsoftontheissues.com/cs/blogs/mscorp/archive/2010/02/19/the-browser-choice-screen-for-europe-what-to-expect-when-to-expect-it.aspx | Feb 20 05:43 |
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| cubezzz | the constant bickering is humourous | Feb 20 05:45 |
| cubezzz | anyways, I suppose it's a small step forward | Feb 20 05:45 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[anivar] RT @vibgyorfilm: Chitralekha Campaign & screening of film "Auto Court -Story of a Dalit Woman" at #ViBGYOR2010 today at 5 PM | Feb 20 06:01 | |
| cubezzz | I really don't care much about what Microsoft does any more | Feb 20 06:04 |
| cubezzz | the fundamental issue is closed vs. open | Feb 20 06:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Satyagraha_ji RT @uruknet: Rt @anarchists Dutch govt collapses over Afghan commitment http://bit.ly/dk4TaA //HARPER NEXT. PLEASE! #Canada | Feb 20 06:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Listening to #Linux #OutLaws 136 - Make love, Not proprietary software. | Feb 20 07:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] - Microsoft's ultimate way to solving a problem: Saying "That's not our problem!" | Feb 20 07:20 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] FSF open letter to Google: free VP8 and use it on YouTube! http://j.mp/cTBHlD (via @eduvid) | Feb 20 07:37 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Okay decided! Going to kodambakkam and T-nagar :-) | Feb 20 08:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Had a chat with Canonical about my blog post http://bit.ly/aWgYFw - The #ubuntu Music Store will be better than I thought. Cant wait! | Feb 20 09:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | Well, so much for Yahoo | Feb 20 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | it's even worse than before :P | Feb 20 09:35 |
| DaemonFC | I hope Ubuntu is getting lots of money for pissing off users with irrelevant search results from Bong | Feb 20 09:36 |
| schestowitz | Bogs down........... | Feb 20 09:36 |
| DaemonFC | You can tell Yahoo is Bing now, the least relevant crap ends up on top | Feb 20 09:36 |
| Ender2070 | :D | Feb 20 09:37 |
| Ender2070 | crap floats to the surface? | Feb 20 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | I searched for something about Ubuntu and got ubuntu.cn on top of the results | Feb 20 09:37 |
| DaemonFC | not a good user experience | Feb 20 09:37 |
| Ender2070 | BANG! | Feb 20 09:37 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 20 09:38 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8523323.stm | Feb 20 09:40 |
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| schestowitz | What a bunch of whiners... 2 hour downtime is very little | Feb 20 09:40 |
| schestowitz | Worst downtime in 4 years! | Feb 20 09:40 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 20 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | the git build of Mesa from yesterday is very nice | Feb 20 09:40 |
| DaemonFC | it's really moving ahead fast, a few weeks ago it barely did anything at all on my system | Feb 20 09:41 |
| schestowitz | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8523323.stm | Feb 20 09:42 |
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| schestowitz | US to http://coto2.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/invaid-the-militarisation-of-aid-to-haiti/ | Feb 20 09:42 |
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| schestowitz | donate guns | Feb 20 09:42 |
| Ender2070 | schestowitz - i saw the front page story about the troll, did u see phoronix? | Feb 20 09:42 |
| schestowitz | RMS: "Because the US militarized its "aid" to Haiti, a lot of effort went into maintaining the troops and little into helping the people there." | Feb 20 09:42 |
| schestowitz | ?/ | Feb 20 09:42 |
| Ender2070 | the troll thread | Feb 20 09:43 |
| oiaohm | http://www.osnews.com/story/22897/2010_Analog_Sunset_the_End_of_Component_Video | Feb 20 09:43 |
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| Ender2070 | its not just a leaked email anymore, he elaborated on it publicly | Feb 20 09:44 |
| Ender2070 | if you still dont understand, the rapist comment | Feb 20 09:46 |
| Ender2070 | i can link it | Feb 20 09:46 |
| DaemonFC | you really have to wonder about the History Channel | Feb 20 09:48 |
| DaemonFC | they've got something on right now where they're talking about Sodom and Gomorrah | Feb 20 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | someone finds the remnants of a village out in the middle of nowhere | Feb 20 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | broken pottery and shit | Feb 20 09:49 |
| DaemonFC | and they use it to say "This was Sodom!!!" | Feb 20 09:50 |
| DaemonFC | "The bible is reeeeeeal!!!" | Feb 20 09:50 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 20 09:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 20 09:51 |
| Ender2070 | if Sodom and Gomorrah happened you better be scared | Feb 20 09:51 |
| schestowitz | The harder you fight the weaker you are. | Feb 20 09:51 |
| schestowitz | Shawn Hernan from Microsoft spills some oil in the closed-source vs. open-source fire again. How boring you think ...? | Feb 20 09:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 20 09:51 |
| schestowitz | http://thetoms-random-thoughts.blogspot.com/2010/02/harder-you-fight-weaker-you-are.html | Feb 20 09:51 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: The Great Flood killed the dinosaurs | Feb 20 09:52 |
| schestowitz | Some people take it literally | Feb 20 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | Ender2070, Supposedly the wickedness includes sex with children and animals, and incest | Feb 20 09:52 |
| DaemonFC | but the Christians don't make distinctions | Feb 20 09:52 |
| Ender2070 | DaemonFC - the wickedness included homosexuality | Feb 20 09:52 |
| Ender2070 | where do you think Sodomy comes from? Sodom | Feb 20 09:52 |
| Ender2070 | at least, the word comes from the fiction in the bible | Feb 20 09:53 |
| DaemonFC | still compare gay people with that in modern political argumentum ad hominem | Feb 20 09:53 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: yeah, they could just be left alone | Feb 20 09:53 |
| schestowitz | They would not know how to reproduce anyway :-) | Feb 20 09:53 |
| Ender2070 | LOL | Feb 20 09:53 |
| Ender2070 | the bible is a funny book | Feb 20 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, How do you make something that's not bad sound bad? | Feb 20 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | throw it in a sentence with Hitler | Feb 20 09:54 |
| Ender2070 | it damns the gay people, but then Noah gets raped by one of his sons | Feb 20 09:54 |
| DaemonFC | Christians do basically just that in their anti-gay arguments | Feb 20 09:54 |
| Ender2070 | sillyness | Feb 20 09:54 |
| schestowitz | Ewwwwwwwwwwww......... http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/19/the-dawning-of-the-a.html#more | Feb 20 09:54 |
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| schestowitz | Ender2070: yes, it's a funny one | Feb 20 09:54 |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9-kGufIVcY | Feb 20 09:55 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmm, "throw it in a sentence with Hitler" :) | Feb 20 09:55 |
| *DaemonFC remembers that one | Feb 20 09:55 | |
| Ender2070 | i only have one anti-gay argument - reproduction | Feb 20 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | an argument FOR being gay? | Feb 20 09:55 |
| cubezzz | unfortunately the world's over populated :) | Feb 20 09:55 |
| DaemonFC | I'll take it, thank you | Feb 20 09:55 |
| schestowitz | How is reproduction good? | Feb 20 09:55 |
| Ender2070 | stop it! | Feb 20 09:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | they can do that too | Feb 20 09:56 |
| Ender2070 | nothing is over populated, other than the volume of idiots | Feb 20 09:56 |
| schestowitz | I'm totally straight and all, but I don't give a * what people do with their bodies if they don't interfere with others' freedom | Feb 20 09:56 |
| cubezzz | birth rate == death rate, would solve some problems | Feb 20 09:56 |
| schestowitz | It's ridiculous to impose such rules on people.... also with suicide, drugs, etc. | Feb 20 09:56 |
| Ender2070 | death rate > birth rate, currently | Feb 20 09:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | roy totally wants me. | Feb 20 09:56 |
| cubezzz | hehehe | Feb 20 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | 1. Putting someone else through a life of misery and serfdom and illness and death and divorce. | Feb 20 09:56 |
| schestowitz | "We know what's good for you... therefore we ban many things that are "bad" for you" | Feb 20 09:56 |
| DaemonFC | that's nice of you | Feb 20 09:56 |
| schestowitz | "You can be a citizens of the planet as long as you follow our rules" | Feb 20 09:57 |
| cubezzz | we're not anarchists | Feb 20 09:57 |
| schestowitz | Although it's more about civilisation, not planet | Feb 20 09:57 |
| cubezzz | at least I'm not :) | Feb 20 09:57 |
| schestowitz | We have UCC | Feb 20 09:57 |
| DaemonFC | 2. Drain your own already stretched resources in raising them. (setting them up to fall down) | Feb 20 09:57 |
| Ender2070 | daemonfc - those are societal problems, you dont see animals having these issues with their hetero affairs | Feb 20 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | 3.The world doesn't need more people. I don't give a shit because I'm helping to leave a big smoking shell of a planet to YOUR kids | Feb 20 09:58 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 09:58 |
| Ender2070 | government has made those issues | Feb 20 09:58 |
| Ender2070 | its government that made child support, and takes half of it before the women gets anything | Feb 20 09:58 |
| cubezzz | maybe they'll make a bomb that sterilizes people | Feb 20 09:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | cubezzz: a neutron bomb theoretically could | Feb 20 09:59 |
| Ender2070 | best method of population control without effecting people who should reproduce - removal of warning labels on hazards | Feb 20 09:59 |
| Ender2070 | :) | Feb 20 09:59 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: overkill much? | Feb 20 10:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | I cut my steak with a chainsaw. | Feb 20 10:00 |
| schestowitz | Cool! | Feb 20 10:00 |
| cubezzz | the US actually did build some neutron bombs | Feb 20 10:01 |
| schestowitz | http://libv.livejournal.com/21700.html | Feb 20 10:01 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, cool things those except when you blow one up over the middle east, their camels still work | Feb 20 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | ho-hum | Feb 20 10:01 |
| DaemonFC | nothing to interesting as war with the Soviet Union | Feb 20 10:02 |
| DaemonFC | *so | Feb 20 10:02 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: have they been tested on some guinea-marines yet? | Feb 20 10:02 |
| schestowitz | Or some "Japs" | Feb 20 10:02 |
| cubezzz | according to wikipedia they were dismantled | Feb 20 10:02 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 20 10:02 |
| schestowitz | The US likes to test weapons on real targets | Feb 20 10:02 |
| schestowitz | As it did in south-east Asia | Feb 20 10:02 |
| schestowitz | Lots | Feb 20 10:02 |
| Ender2070 | in southpark.... the us military framed a whale and a dolphin for nuking them | Feb 20 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Agent Orange | Feb 20 10:03 |
| Ender2070 | for nuking japan in ww2 | Feb 20 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | and Agents White, Purple, Blue, Red, Green, etc. | Feb 20 10:03 |
| DaemonFC | Orange is jsut all you ever hear about | Feb 20 10:03 |
| Aondo | fun thing happening today, for Durian, the next blender project, if you've heard of it. gonna have a so called "sprint" where they are gonna ask people to contribute arts in form of 3d models, textures etc | Feb 20 10:04 |
| Aondo | not every project that can pull off something like that | Feb 20 10:04 |
| schestowitz | Purple?? | Feb 20 10:04 |
| schestowitz | WHen does that symbolise? Pride parade day? | Feb 20 10:05 |
| schestowitz | Orange is normal | Feb 20 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | Agent Pink? | Feb 20 10:05 |
| schestowitz | Here in the UK there is a different scale | Feb 20 10:05 |
| schestowitz | It's never numerical though | Feb 20 10:05 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Pink | Feb 20 10:05 |
| schestowitz | And they don't explain it | Feb 20 10:05 |
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| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_herbicides | Feb 20 10:06 |
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| schestowitz | Aondo: there were some pov-ray stuff laying around for ages | Feb 20 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | ohhhh, a rainbow! | Feb 20 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 10:06 |
| schestowitz | Free meshes | Feb 20 10:06 |
| Ender2070 | im going to hit the sack | Feb 20 10:06 |
| Ender2070 | later guys | Feb 20 10:06 |
| DaemonFC | the military was dusting rice paddies with that shit | Feb 20 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | the stated goal was to make them flee to South Vietnam | Feb 20 10:07 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Purple | Feb 20 10:07 |
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| DaemonFC | reality is probably that tens of thousands of North Vietnamese starved | Feb 20 10:07 |
| Ender2070 | thats nothing actually | Feb 20 10:07 |
| DaemonFC | and/or poisoned by the dioxin | Feb 20 10:07 |
| Ender2070 | before ww2 | Feb 20 10:08 |
| schestowitz | "But, hey,"they'd say, "they're 'just' Vietnamese" | Feb 20 10:08 |
| schestowitz | The US values own lives | Feb 20 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Also in Iraq they only count US lives | Feb 20 10:08 |
| Ender2070 | the USSR starved Ukraine, 7 million people died | Feb 20 10:08 |
| Ender2070 | it gave Hitler a hard on at the time | Feb 20 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Like it's so much more valuable and blessed by someone or something | Feb 20 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | Attacking a military target belonging to a country you have declared war on it OK. | Feb 20 10:08 |
| Ender2070 | USSR exported Ukraines food to the west and starved them for over a year | Feb 20 10:08 |
| DaemonFC | Attacking civilians is never justifiable. | Feb 20 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Many countries are like that actually.... China, Russia, Germany, UK, Israel, Uganda... | Feb 20 10:08 |
| schestowitz | They cheapen the lives of people from across the border | Feb 20 10:09 |
| schestowitz | As if the border someone defines worth | Feb 20 10:09 |
| schestowitz | Or religions | Feb 20 10:09 |
| Ender2070 | USSR's body count was between 20-30 million people | Feb 20 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | The goal of war should be to break the government of your enemy and destroy their ability to make war | Feb 20 10:09 |
| schestowitz | BIbles justify this type of hatred | Feb 20 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | indiscriminate killings of civilians is disgusting | Feb 20 10:09 |
| DaemonFC | makes you no better than the Taliban | Feb 20 10:09 |
| Ender2070 | makes you no better than Stalin or Hitler either | Feb 20 10:10 |
| Ender2070 | anyways, later | Feb 20 10:10 |
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| schestowitz | amarsh04: ACK | Feb 20 10:10 |
| DaemonFC | the terrain of Vietnam won the war, and clever use of the terrain to plan booby traps and ambushes | Feb 20 10:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://kohei.us/2010/02/20/increasing-calcs-row-limit-to-1-million/ | Feb 20 10:11 |
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| DaemonFC | it wasn't fancy weapons or high tech gadgets | Feb 20 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | it was bamboo and AK-47s | Feb 20 10:11 |
| schestowitz | What type of person needs such huge spreadsheets? | Feb 20 10:11 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, governments | Feb 20 10:12 |
| Aondo | schestowitz ah not for ages tho, but there are a lot interest, think it's a nice thing going here anyway :) | Feb 20 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | so they can express the full value of their current debt? | Feb 20 10:12 |
| DaemonFC | in only 20 or so | Feb 20 10:12 |
| schestowitz | http://ironman.darthgibus.net/?p=50 | Feb 20 10:14 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: heh | Feb 20 10:15 |
| schestowitz | I can imagine some n00b PA opening a spreadsheet of citizens name... | Feb 20 10:15 |
| schestowitz | columns: "what will you have for lunch?" | "assassinate (Y/N)?".... | Feb 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: you have over $50k in debt | Feb 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | National debt | Feb 20 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | I'd like to know where they're going to find the other $49,000 | Feb 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | If you sell Jabba you can make a fifty | Feb 20 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 10:16 |
| schestowitz | That pas off .1% of it | Feb 20 10:16 |
| DaemonFC | cats don't sell | Feb 20 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | you have to give them away | Feb 20 10:17 |
| schestowitz | In China they do | Feb 20 10:17 |
| schestowitz | They skin them alike and toss them aside alive | Feb 20 10:17 |
| *DaemonFC facepalms | Feb 20 10:17 | |
| schestowitz | Cats for cash | Feb 20 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Like cash for clunkers | Feb 20 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | I would shoot someone if they tried to do that to Jabba | Feb 20 10:17 |
| schestowitz | They need commodities | Feb 20 10:17 |
| DaemonFC | I mean that | Feb 20 10:17 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] "Israel's reputation has suffered an unprecedented battering" http://is.gd/8MKrK #israel #palestine #occupation #mossad | Feb 20 10:33 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/feb/16/hillary-clinton-iran-bush | Feb 20 10:33 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/16/malawi-operation-against-gays-lesbians | Feb 20 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | RMS: "Fanatical American Christians are accused of fomenting the persecution of gays in Africa. This is an example of Christian Cruelty." | Feb 20 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Maybe they can bring them some bibles | Feb 20 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | no food? | Feb 20 10:35 |
| schestowitz | Naaa | Feb 20 10:35 |
| schestowitz | People in the West are sooo skinny | Feb 20 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | I guess the Africans will be eating boiled bibles again tonight | Feb 20 10:35 |
| DaemonFC | :( | Feb 20 10:35 |
| schestowitz | THey need more food | Feb 20 10:35 |
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| schestowitz | RMS: "Obama wants to waste $50 billion building nuclear reactors. It is another handout to business, disguised as a way to reduce carbon emissions. It might reduce carbon emissions, but that money could do a lot more so if spent differently." | Feb 20 10:36 |
| schestowitz | I know about the nuclear AstroTurf | Feb 20 10:36 |
| schestowitz | They hide the problems with PR | Feb 20 10:36 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Doesn't "loan" mean it'll be paid back? | Feb 20 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | they might be very favorable loans, but they are loans | Feb 20 10:37 |
| oiaohm | More power hits this earth pre day than we need. | Feb 20 10:37 |
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| oiaohm | Problem is we sux at collecting it. | Feb 20 10:37 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] "Israel's reputation has suffered an unprecedented battering" http://is.gd/8MKrK #israel #palestine #occupation #mossad | Feb 20 10:37 | |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, My Compiz performance doesn't suck with the latest "radeon" driver and latest Mesa | Feb 20 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | progress | Feb 20 10:37 |
| DaemonFC | Compiz performance feels as smooth as using Nvidia's driver | Feb 20 10:38 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC: Its pitty video drivers take so long to write. | Feb 20 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | it's starting to look real good | Feb 20 10:43 |
| DaemonFC | Mesa 7.8 will get a lot of people off FGRLX | Feb 20 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | 8.0 will get the rest | Feb 20 10:44 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 10:44 |
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| DaemonFC | so around June is when I'm thinking Mesa will have full OpenGL 3.2 | Feb 20 10:45 |
| oiaohm | If we are lucky by 8.0 evergreen will be fully working as well. | Feb 20 10:46 |
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| oiaohm | xv render speed got speed up a lot recently on the open source ati drivers as well. DaemonFC | Feb 20 10:47 |
| schestowitz | Uncle Bama needs AstroTurfers... http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/socnetsmanager | Feb 20 10:47 |
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| DaemonFC | oiaohm, With compiz, I don't think it performs worse than FGLRX anywhere | Feb 20 10:47 |
| DaemonFC | turning on Blur fucks your terminal windows | Feb 20 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | they turn into a big rainbow | Feb 20 10:48 |
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| oiaohm | Basically you are now seeing what I was talking about that FGLRX most likely will not need upgraded to dri2 because by the time dri2 is common open source drivers will be good enough. | Feb 20 10:49 |
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| narendra | hi | Feb 20 10:54 |
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| TheMadHatter_ | Morning. Hey Roy, liked the Climate article. Here's a couple more things you should write up. | Feb 20 10:55 |
| TheMadHatter_ | http://open.salon.com/blog/david_brin/2010/02/09/the_real_struggle_behind_climate_change_-_a_war_on_expertise | Feb 20 10:55 |
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| eduvid | is their any study on AI based software vs Open Standards ? | Feb 20 10:55 |
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| TheMadHatter_ | http://open.salon.com/blog/david_brin/2010/02/11/distinguishing_climate_deniers_from_skeptics | Feb 20 10:55 |
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| TheMadHatter_ | http://open.salon.com/blog/david_brin/2010/02/12/an_addendum_on_the_fall_of_civilizations | Feb 20 10:56 |
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| eduvid | Hi all - I have expressed my concern on AI based software - http://techfandu.blogspot.com/2010/02/ai-based-software-new-challenge-to-open.html | Feb 20 10:56 |
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| TheMadHatter_ | It's good stuff. David Brin is one hell of a smart guy, I spent part of a weekend with him once, and was very impressed. | Feb 20 10:57 |
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| schestowitz | Hi, eduvid | Feb 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz | [11:01] <eduvid> hi | Feb 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz | [11:02] <schestowitz> Hey | Feb 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz |  | Feb 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz | [11:02] <eduvid> have you looked my article, | Feb 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Which one? | Feb 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz | Hi, TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:02 |
| schestowitz | [10:55] <eduvid> is their any study on AI based software vs Open Standards ? | Feb 20 11:03 |
| eduvid | schestowitz: Link is http://techfandu.blogspot.com/2010/02/ai-based-software-new-challenge-to-open.html | Feb 20 11:03 |
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| *schestowitz looks | Feb 20 11:03 | |
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| TheMadHatter_ | Morning. | Feb 20 11:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] Spain to recognise civil war poet Miguel Hernandez http://is.gd/8MPgk | Feb 20 11:05 | |
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| schestowitz | TheMadHatter_: I put it in Daily Links | Feb 20 11:05 |
| schestowitz | Thanks | Feb 20 11:05 |
| *schestowitz reads http://techfandu.blogspot.com/2010/02/ai-based-software-new-challenge-to-open.html | Feb 20 11:05 | |
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| TheMadHatter_ | Good. The deniers really piss me off. | Feb 20 11:05 |
| TheMadHatter_ | FYI, did you see my latest post? | Feb 20 11:06 |
| schestowitz | TheMadHatter_: we have one here | Feb 20 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | ender* | Feb 20 11:07 |
| TheMadHatter_ | hehe. poor bastard. | Feb 20 11:07 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[satipera/@satipera] Spain to recognise civil war poet Miguel Hernandez http://is.gd/8MPgk | Feb 20 11:07 | |
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| DaemonFC | The daily CD left a lot to be desired (Ubuntu) | Feb 20 11:07 |
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| DaemonFC | Grub wouldn't install so I ended up telling it to use LILO so I could reboot and figure something out *grin* | Feb 20 11:08 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Did you see my post on ACTA? | Feb 20 11:08 |
| schestowitz | eduvid: there is some predictive input stuff out there | Feb 20 11:09 |
| schestowitz | Sometimes proprietary though, with software patents | Feb 20 11:09 |
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| DaemonFC | I used to use LILO to avoid having to deal with GRUB | Feb 20 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | GRUB 2 has been much less stupid though :) | Feb 20 11:09 |
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| eduvid | schestowitz: Yup, but in future, I think, we are going to face this as challange -- | Feb 20 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Like this new one: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Stantum-PMatrix/ | Feb 20 11:11 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Multi-touch displays support all ten fingers at once - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 61.45 KB | Feb 20 11:11 |
| eduvid | schestowitz: not this software, but similar software which will AI in not standard way | Feb 20 11:11 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/HTC-TMobile-MyTouch-3G-35mm/ | Feb 20 11:12 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Android phone takes a Swype at fast text input - News - Linux for Devices .::. Size~: 59.29 KB | Feb 20 11:12 |
| schestowitz | eduvid: I'm not sure we'll have keyboards in the future | Feb 20 11:12 |
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| schestowitz | They are residues of typewriters and not the printing press (Gutenberg) | Feb 20 11:13 |
| TheMadHatter_ | WinMob is on life support, Android is evolving so much faster that WinMob cannot catch up. | Feb 20 11:13 |
| schestowitz | CPUs get better and we can do voice better | Feb 20 11:13 |
| schestowitz | eduvid: the Mob will kill thw Win | Feb 20 11:14 |
| schestowitz | Oops. | Feb 20 11:14 |
| schestowitz | *TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:14 |
| schestowitz | Android uses RISC | Feb 20 11:14 |
| eduvid | schestowitz: :) but AI can be introduced in any server based software to make it non-standard ,, anyways i was just trying to think | Feb 20 11:14 |
| schestowitz | And WIntel runs scared | Feb 20 11:14 |
| schestowitz | with it's s*y Atom CPU | Feb 20 11:14 |
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| DaemonFC | maybe oiaohm can explain the logic behind switching from LILO to GRUB Legacy when distros went that way | Feb 20 11:14 |
| schestowitz | Which is stil power hungry and generally junk | Feb 20 11:14 |
| schestowitz | And Nokia is now sidling with the x86 train | Feb 20 11:15 |
| schestowitz | To h* w/ them.. | Feb 20 11:15 |
| schestowitz | Crippling progress in CPUs | Feb 20 11:15 |
| schestowitz | SPARC is better too | Feb 20 11:15 |
| schestowitz | eduvid: interesting one... | Feb 20 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | you went from something pretty clean and well designed, that didn't corrupt file systems, that understood more than Ext3, to something (GRUB) which was more like a practical joke | Feb 20 11:15 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] "Bad Romance" playing outside from car. a: "Who was that Freda?" f: "La'y Gagah! I like La'y Gagah!" | Feb 20 11:16 | |
| schestowitz | eduvid: I'll add you to this channels feed | Feb 20 11:16 |
| eduvid | schestowitz: Thanks :) | Feb 20 11:16 |
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| schestowitz | This way anything you tweet will appear here in real time | Feb 20 11:17 |
| eduvid | schestowitz: Add my twitter them (@eduvid) | Feb 20 11:17 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Power, Sparc, ARM are all better than X86. But X86 is the only think Intel knows how to build. How sad for them. | Feb 20 11:18 |
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| schestowitz | eduvid: I just have | Feb 20 11:18 |
| schestowitz | TheMadHatter_: we are transitioning to mobiles | Feb 20 11:19 |
| schestowitz | The mid-area like "Smartbooks" is what scares Intel | Feb 20 11:19 |
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| schestowitz | It cannibalises PC sales for x86 and its patents (AMD royalties) | Feb 20 11:19 |
| schestowitz | It cuts Intel out of the loop | Feb 20 11:20 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Which wipes out X86, unless Intel is able to improve X86 more than I think they can. | Feb 20 11:20 |
| schestowitz | They are a criminal company, it would be good to starve them (even though my bro-in-law works for them) | Feb 20 11:20 |
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| schestowitz | TheMadHatter_: they need to start from scratch | Feb 20 11:20 |
| schestowitz | Atom was their attempt to slim down, and it's pathetic | Feb 20 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Remember OLPC | Feb 20 11:21 |
| schestowitz | It uses AMD | Feb 20 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Now ARM | Feb 20 11:21 |
| schestowitz | They attacked it like bat* insane | Feb 20 11:21 |
| TheMadHatter_ | They did start from Scratch once before - remember Itanic? | Feb 20 11:21 |
| schestowitz | They realise ARM was not just a phone thing last year | Feb 20 11:21 |
| schestowitz | TheMadHatter_: oh, that... | Feb 20 11:21 |
| schestowitz | Hehe. | Feb 20 11:21 |
| schestowitz | They had some corruptible analysts hype it up, IIRC | Feb 20 11:22 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.prwatch.org/node/8894 | Feb 20 11:22 |
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| schestowitz | The US should arrest Berman for life | Feb 20 11:23 |
| schestowitz | Maybe death sentence would be in order | Feb 20 11:23 |
| TheMadHatter_ | There are some neat low power Power cores, which may compete with ARM. And of course there are others | Feb 20 11:24 |
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| schestowitz | TheMadHatter_: what's with PJ and TED? | Feb 20 11:24 |
| TheMadHatter_ | How about Propellor | Feb 20 11:24 |
| TheMadHatter_ | http://www.channel-e.biz/news-en/article/propeller-multi-core-risc-processor-from-parallax.html | Feb 20 11:24 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Propeller: Multi-Core RISC processor from Parallax .::. Size~: 41.22 KB | Feb 20 11:24 |
| schestowitz | Have they paid Groklaw to shill TED /sarcasm | Feb 20 11:24 |
| schestowitz | And she links to some Microsoft talks, too | Feb 20 11:24 |
| schestowitz | I don't understand her sometimes... esp. when she defends Apple | Feb 20 11:24 |
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| schestowitz | I assume she tries to seem "balanced" | Feb 20 11:25 |
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| TheMadHatter_ | TED is useful. | Feb 20 11:26 |
| schestowitz | "For example, part of what I work on is to try to go back to older Groklaw articles, and check to see if the urls still work and if not fix them. Often they don't work any more, and I've found that some newspapers still have the article, but you have to pay to read it." | Feb 20 11:26 |
| schestowitz | TheMadHatter_: it's not | Feb 20 11:26 |
| schestowitz | There's embarrassment there | Feb 20 11:26 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Apple for that matter is usefull. | Feb 20 11:26 |
| schestowitz | We chatted about it last night | Feb 20 11:26 |
| oiaohm | TheMadHatter_: Intel does produce some arm chips. | Feb 20 11:26 |
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| schestowitz | Apple does produce some WIndows apps | Feb 20 11:27 |
| oiaohm | I was meaning in volume. | Feb 20 11:27 |
| TheMadHatter_ | But in both cases you have to watch what they are doing. It's like Groklaw, Groklaw is useful, but you have to watch PJ, because she has this belief in the law, which is silly. | Feb 20 11:27 |
| oiaohm | Death of x86 would not be the death of intel. | Feb 20 11:27 |
| TheMadHatter_ | yeah, but intel doesn't make money off ARM chips. | Feb 20 11:28 |
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| oiaohm | It does TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Cause OS X's 4% usage share couldn't sustain ipod | Feb 20 11:28 |
| oiaohm | Intel is payed to manufature so many of particular chips for other companies. | Feb 20 11:28 |
| DaemonFC | much less turn a profit :) | Feb 20 11:28 |
| schestowitz | [11:27] <TheMadHatter_> But in both cases you have to watch what they are doing. It's like Groklaw, Groklaw is useful, but you have to watch PJ, because she has this belief in the law, which is silly. | Feb 20 11:28 |
| oiaohm | Ie intel has quite large production plant systems. | Feb 20 11:28 |
| schestowitz | Like we believe in PCs | Feb 20 11:28 |
| schestowitz | It's her careers as a researcher/paralegal | Feb 20 11:28 |
| TheMadHatter_ | oiaohm no it doesn't. ARM is just a sideline, the money is in X86. They couldn't survive on ARM alone, read the SEC filings. | Feb 20 11:28 |
| schestowitz | You wouldn't want to trash your life's work | Feb 20 11:29 |
| schestowitz | As for Groklaw, I think time gets wasted on Psystar | Feb 20 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | I think we'll be dealing with x86 for another 20 years at least | Feb 20 11:29 |
| schestowitz | Apple can afford lawyers.. it's NOT ppor | Feb 20 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | it actually became more popular in the 2000's cause of Apple :) | Feb 20 11:29 |
| oiaohm | TheMadHatter_: Its a big enough side line that Intel could restruct like IBM did. | Feb 20 11:29 |
| TheMadHatter_ | OK, on this point I agree with PJ, Psystar is important. It points out dangers to Free Software. | Feb 20 11:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: 20 years? Ha! | Feb 20 11:30 |
| schestowitz | Anyone who predicts 20 years ahead doesn't know a damn about predictions | Feb 20 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | I think a year ago, Fedora put out a thing that told how many of their users used what | Feb 20 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | and over 90% of it was x86 or x86-64 | Feb 20 11:30 |
| schestowitz | You should see MSFT predictions from 1990... hilarious | Feb 20 11:30 |
| TheMadHatter_ | oiaohm they only produce ARM to keep the foundries busy, there isn't enough money in ARM to keep a company as inefficient as Intel running. | Feb 20 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | the next closest think was PowerPC | Feb 20 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | *thing | Feb 20 11:31 |
| oiaohm | Remember IBM was also inefficient before the restructor. TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | http://smolt.fedoraproject.org/static/stats/stats.html | Feb 20 11:32 |
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| DaemonFC | 68% on i686 nd 31.7% on x86-64 | Feb 20 11:32 |
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| oiaohm | Intel can live threw ok pain but live threw. AMD most likely would have to full back on the ATI department. | Feb 20 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | 99.7% of Fedora users use x86 | Feb 20 11:32 |
| oiaohm | Again that is current time numbers. | Feb 20 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | 0.2% use PPC coming in second | Feb 20 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Most of those machines are not going to last 20 years. | Feb 20 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | they had on person do a SMOLT check in using ARM | Feb 20 11:33 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Power, MIPS and Sparc could easily replace X86. | Feb 20 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | *one | Feb 20 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | out of a quarter million SMOLTs | Feb 20 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Sparc and Power have basically been over priced. | Feb 20 11:33 |
| oiaohm | Mips and Arm are priced right in the up coming markets to give intel trouble. | Feb 20 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Fedora doesn't even have a SPARC version | Feb 20 11:34 |
| TheMadHatter_ | OpenSparc would be priced lower, could be interesting. | Feb 20 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | but it would be down there in the under 0.1% tally | Feb 20 11:34 |
| oiaohm | also Fedora really is not broad targeted. | Feb 20 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | the 2nd place going to PPC with 0.2% of all Fedora users ought to tell you something | Feb 20 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | ARM isn't even on the map | Feb 20 11:35 |
| TheMadHatter_ | What was interesting was the ITanic numbers. | Feb 20 11:35 |
| oiaohm | Of course arm will not show up with Fedora. | Feb 20 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | oh wait, PPC64 gives PPC 0.3% | Feb 20 11:35 |
| TheMadHatter_ | ARM does show up, just numbers are low. | Feb 20 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | my mistake | Feb 20 11:35 |
| oiaohm | Fedora targets mostly the home intaller. | Feb 20 11:35 |
| oiaohm | Not items like NAS's and other embeded devices. | Feb 20 11:36 |
| oiaohm | Arm and Mips moves in the market are very much embeded at this stage. | Feb 20 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | oiaohm, Most of the limitations of the x86 PC, and its BIOS, are the result of the last 30 years of use of an architechture people probably didn't expect to outlive the 1980s | Feb 20 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | so I wouldn't be surprised if x86 goes on 20 more years | Feb 20 11:37 |
| TheMadHatter_ | This pisses me off. I wake up at 5:30 AM, can't sleep, feel like playing guitar, but everyone else is asleep so I can't turn on my amp. | Feb 20 11:37 |
| oiaohm | I will be supprised in the current form factors are alive in 20 years DaemonFC | Feb 20 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | in 2030 we'll still be bitching and moaning about an arch that started out in 1981 | Feb 20 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | I believe that | Feb 20 11:37 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Yes, the monitor/keyboard/CPU paradigm is just about played out. | Feb 20 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Phones are starting to embed projectors. | Feb 20 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | yes, the ipad clearly is the future | Feb 20 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | look at how people love it | Feb 20 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | and the form factor | Feb 20 11:38 |
| oiaohm | So why carry a laptop if phone can do same job. | Feb 20 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | they love it so much that the Microsoft Origami tablets died instantly | Feb 20 11:38 |
| oiaohm | Why have a computer if tv does same job. | Feb 20 11:38 |
| TheMadHatter_ | I'm not sure it's the IPad. I think that it will be a form factor that no one has though of yet. | Feb 20 11:39 |
| oiaohm | Basically we are currently heading into a form factor change. | Feb 20 11:39 |
| oiaohm | Projectors have always been large and expensive. No longer the case. | Feb 20 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | TheMadHatter_, A Microsoft Origami (Samsung made most of these) from 2005, with Windows XP on it is more useful than an iPad | Feb 20 11:39 |
| DaemonFC | if that says anything | Feb 20 11:39 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Origami was over priced. By pricing it where they did, Apple just killed 90% plus of the tablets in existance. | Feb 20 11:39 |
| oiaohm | Tablet design is flawed. | Feb 20 11:39 |
| schestowitz | [11:36] <oiaohm> Not items like NAS's and other embeded devices. | Feb 20 11:40 |
| oiaohm | To be correct touch is. | Feb 20 11:40 |
| schestowitz | Smolt only | Feb 20 11:40 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Oh, it might be more useful, but it's too expensive. | Feb 20 11:40 |
| schestowitz | So Linpus devices won't count for example | Feb 20 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | I don't believe in the tablet | Feb 20 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | it just never sells no matter who is making them | Feb 20 11:40 |
| oiaohm | I more see items like sixth sence been the next stage. | Feb 20 11:40 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Samuel R. Delaney wrote about a future where you plugged into your lawnmower, and controlled it while sitting beside the lawn. | Feb 20 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | desktop PC is still in the same form factor it was in 1981 | Feb 20 11:41 |
| TheMadHatter_ | However Delaney didn't think of wireless. Add wireless in, and I think that direct nueral interfacing will be the way to go. | Feb 20 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | they still sell like crazy | Feb 20 11:41 |
| oiaohm | So has been tv. DaemonFC | Feb 20 11:41 |
| oiaohm | But now PC and tv are merging. | Feb 20 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | into a >$1500 model that's brimming with DRM | Feb 20 11:42 |
| oiaohm | We are very much going into a form factor shuffle. | Feb 20 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | no thanks | Feb 20 11:42 |
| TheMadHatter_ | There needs to be a push to make DRM illegal. | Feb 20 11:42 |
| oiaohm | samsung tv currently open source completely changable firmware no DRM lock. | Feb 20 11:43 |
| oiaohm | Of course a arm based Linux that will not show up on fedoras numbers. | Feb 20 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | TheMadHatter_, You refer to the parallel universe where there's the anti-DMCA which makes attempting to bypass consumer fair use rights a federal felony and a $250,000 fine | Feb 20 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 11:44 |
| oiaohm | Heck one of the insane phone experments recently had the complete phone os in the sim card. | Feb 20 11:45 |
| TheMadHatter_ | DaemonFC no, I am pushing for changes to Canadian law to outlaw DRM, and I suggest that you push for changes to American law to do the same. | Feb 20 11:45 |
| TheMadHatter_ | If you want changes to the law, you have to get off your ass, and advocate. | Feb 20 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | TheMadHatter_, I don't have $50 million to bribe my senator with :) | Feb 20 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | and that only gets it on the floor and to the vote | Feb 20 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | imagine how much money I'll need to bribe just the senate | Feb 20 11:46 |
| TheMadHatter_ | DaemonFC you don't have $50,000,000 but you have your vote, and your neighbours votes. Get out and do something. | Feb 20 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | and two candidates for the office that will do the same things | Feb 20 11:47 |
| oiaohm | Really DaemonFC why does a PC have to be two parts. Ie screen and box on floor. | Feb 20 11:47 |
| oiaohm | I really see the day when due to the price of like arm chips. You might has well put a full Linux OS in the screen for the OSD. | Feb 20 11:49 |
| cubezzz | we don't have DRM :) | Feb 20 11:49 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Apple's and Dell's once piece desktops are pretty good. The only concern is that they can't be upgraded, but more people are treating PCs like they do their TVs, buy it, and make no changes until it dies. | Feb 20 11:49 |
| cubezzz | that's no fun | Feb 20 11:49 |
| TheMadHatter_ | I can see a future where the PC is the size of a dime, is implanted in your head, and uses your eye nerves for the display. | Feb 20 11:50 |
| oiaohm | Sim card is already done. | Feb 20 11:51 |
| oiaohm | And from memory that is smaller than a dime. | Feb 20 11:51 |
| oiaohm | Now the nerve link up is all that is missing. | Feb 20 11:51 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Learning how to mock packages up so I can start buildin some e17 rpms | Feb 20 11:52 | |
| DaemonFC | cubezzz, If you ever opened up an HP Pavilion or many cheap Dells, you'd know why | Feb 20 11:52 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Nerve linkups have been done. There's some pioneering work done to help the blind see. | Feb 20 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | cram it all in there, proprietary case, 200 Watt PSU trying to run what's already in there | Feb 20 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Feb 20 11:53 |
| TheMadHatter_ | I would expect that we could see something along this line in less than 10 years. | Feb 20 11:53 |
| oiaohm | Pioneering yes. Working right is another thing. TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:53 |
| TheMadHatter_ | oiaohm actually they have it 'working right' now, it just isn't working well enough for adoption. Display isn't the problem, they can display. They can't display fine enough details - yet. | Feb 20 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | a lot of OEMs have "special" boards without any expansion slots jsut so you have to throw it all out and buy a new system later | Feb 20 11:55 |
| oiaohm | I class working right is doing a usable resultion. TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:55 |
| TheMadHatter_ | That's why I said 10 years - in ten years I would expect that they will be able to display fine enough details. | Feb 20 11:55 |
| cubezzz | a black box again | Feb 20 11:55 |
| oiaohm | I would say 10 to 15 allowing for issues. TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] "No to SWIFT agreement" makes news on Portuguese "SIC Notícias" tv channel. BE, PCP, PS and PSD were against it, great! Sadly PP in favour. | Feb 20 11:56 | |
| oiaohm | Ie human trials alone cost 5 years. TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:56 |
| TheMadHatter_ | Just think - you lift a skin flap on your head, plug in a sim card, and you are up and running with what would be considered a super computer today. | Feb 20 11:56 |
| cubezzz | no thanks | Feb 20 11:56 |
| TheMadHatter_ | swift agreement? | Feb 20 11:56 |
| oiaohm | Mind you it would be simpler to do oled glasses. TheMadHatter_ | Feb 20 11:57 |
| oiaohm | Lot less invasive. | Feb 20 11:57 |
| TheMadHatter_ | oiaohm I think 10. We'll see. | Feb 20 11:57 |
| cubezzz | the fact you have to drill a hole in your head is a bit of a turn off | Feb 20 11:57 |
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| TheMadHatter_ | cubezzz no you don't, optic nerve is accesible. | Feb 20 11:58 |
| cubezzz | even so | Feb 20 11:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Dear #fedora are there any tools to automate fetching the source from path with autotools without polluting the devel environment? | Feb 20 11:59 | |
| cubezzz | with some things (like your eyes) it's best not to mess around | Feb 20 11:59 |
| cubezzz | if your eyes weren't working I could understand it, but otherwise... no | Feb 20 12:00 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] I know how to make rpms and cause a make dist to happen, I just want to know if someone has already written a small script to offload work. | Feb 20 12:01 | |
| cubezzz | a hud is good enough for me | Feb 20 12:03 |
| Eruaran | I've decided I don't want a desktop that is "for the masses". | Feb 20 12:03 |
| cubezzz | it's better to build your own desktop | Feb 20 12:04 |
| Eruaran | The masses are lowest common denominator land of mediocrity daytime tv watching sheep. | Feb 20 12:04 |
| oiaohm | Best example I can think up calculators. | Feb 20 12:06 |
| oiaohm | Now think they are now compared to what they were 15 years ago. | Feb 20 12:06 |
| Eruaran | sigh... its just that I've been confronted with some phenomenally stupid people this week. | Feb 20 12:06 |
| cubezzz | oiaohm, they're crappy now | Feb 20 12:07 |
| Eruaran | After repeating myself for the fith time I feel like saying, "well, basically you're stupid" | Feb 20 12:07 |
| oiaohm | Yet they are for the common. cubezzz | Feb 20 12:07 |
| cubezzz | unless HP still makes some new ones, which I doubt | Feb 20 12:07 |
| oiaohm | Numbers that are out there are way more. | Feb 20 12:07 |
| cubezzz | they don't even make PDA's any more I don't think | Feb 20 12:08 |
| cubezzz | it's all this phone stuff | Feb 20 12:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Brother and sister advising my Mum to use Windows, not Ubuntu, so they can help her. Despite them living 1.5+hrs away,I live 1 mile away. | Feb 20 12:10 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Also of course worth noting the experience in most things she will do (browser/picasa) are identical on both platforms. *sigh* | Feb 20 12:10 | |
| cubezzz | I had one of the earliest lcd calculators from about 1975 or so | Feb 20 12:10 |
| oiaohm | Most people use phone instead of calculator these days. | Feb 20 12:11 |
| oiaohm | So why cannot phone in time not replace PC as well. | Feb 20 12:11 |
| cubezzz | can't program on it | Feb 20 12:12 |
| cubezzz | main reason why (for me) it wouldn't replace the desktop | Feb 20 12:12 |
| cubezzz | I need a normal sized keyboard | Feb 20 12:13 |
| oiaohm | Its not like you cannot connect a normal size keyboard. | Feb 20 12:13 |
| cubezzz | remember those calculator watches? | Feb 20 12:13 |
| cubezzz | can't use those, same reason | Feb 20 12:14 |
| oiaohm | Now there are phone watches. | Feb 20 12:14 |
| cubezzz | I have one of those zaurus sl-5500's | Feb 20 12:14 |
| oiaohm | Small buttons small area of interface. | Feb 20 12:14 |
| cubezzz | I just ssh into it | Feb 20 12:14 |
| oiaohm | Projection tech. | Feb 20 12:14 |
| oiaohm | Is the game changer. | Feb 20 12:14 |
| cubezzz | I suppose you could have some sort of expanding keyboard | Feb 20 12:15 |
| cubezzz | like IBM tried with some of their thinkpads | Feb 20 12:15 |
| cubezzz | it's stupid typing with your thumbs on those blackberry things | Feb 20 12:16 |
| oiaohm | Think a phone with a projector. So it can project a larger screen. | Feb 20 12:17 |
| oiaohm | Now if you can hook up a normal keyboard. The touch screen of phone could be the mouse pad basically. | Feb 20 12:17 |
| cubezzz | the other thing is battery life | Feb 20 12:19 |
| cubezzz | if you had a portable thing that could last 8 hours you would have something | Feb 20 12:19 |
| cubezzz | those old sharp organizers seemed to last a long time | Feb 20 12:20 |
| cubezzz | and encase the thing in rubber so it didn't break when you dropped it | Feb 20 12:21 |
| oiaohm | arm chips simply have that live. | Feb 20 12:21 |
| cubezzz | I bet my zaurus doesn't even last an hour now | Feb 20 12:22 |
| cubezzz | but the battery's old | Feb 20 12:22 |
| oiaohm | repacked battery it will do about 12 hours. | Feb 20 12:22 |
| oiaohm | Upgraded battry types 24 hours. | Feb 20 12:23 |
| cubezzz | "The single biggest problem with this Zaurus is the battery life. With the backlight ON on its highest setting it does barely 1 hour and 15 minutes. Turning off the backlight it can go on for a few hours." | Feb 20 12:23 |
| oiaohm | Lot of battery tech is better now than when Zaurus was made. | Feb 20 12:24 |
| cubezzz | "I spoke to a Linux kernel/pda-gfx engineer about power management and he was pretty harsh on his comments about Linux's abilities as a PDA/phone OS saying pretty much that Linux's power management is very primitive and that it's possible that some badly-written drivers (sound, bluetooth, even wifi) are draining battery even when not in use " | Feb 20 12:24 |
| cubezzz | it's worth a try | Feb 20 12:25 |
| oiaohm | The power management code is about to appear. | Feb 20 12:25 |
| cubezzz | the sl-5500 had a pretty tiny keyboard too | Feb 20 12:26 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Manuel Alegre diz que há liberdade de expressão em Portugal. Não leu a constituição. #fail. | Feb 20 12:29 | |
| TheMadHatter_ | I wanted a Zaurus, they were pretty neat. Instead I went Palm. | Feb 20 12:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Há mais que antes de 1974. Certo. Mas muito menos que, por exemplo, nos EUA. | Feb 20 12:30 | |
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| DaemonFC | well, Empathy is a bit better with IRC now | Feb 20 12:35 |
| schestowitz | RMS: "Sarkozy said France will forgive Haiti's debt. I am not sure whether this means all of it, or just the part that France owns. Either way, it is s step forward, but France should pay back the ransom that Haiti paid for the freedom of the slaves." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/17/sarkozy-haiti-visit | Feb 20 12:44 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.fiercecio.com/techwatch/story/wordpress-outage-takes-down-10-million-blogs/2010-02-19 | Feb 20 12:44 |
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| schestowitz | That ought to discourage people from signing up with the service more often, I guess | Feb 20 12:44 |
| schestowitz | MySpace was down for days after DC issues, no? | Feb 20 12:44 |
| schestowitz | TypePad had a massive downtimes some years ago | Feb 20 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: "Colony" is such a nice word when you invade and occupy, ship former prisoners there, or crush them with tax until they revolt | Feb 20 12:45 |
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| schestowitz | Yup | Feb 20 12:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2359090,00.asp | Feb 20 12:47 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] New Ubuntu related Full Circle Magazine Podcast in production.. http://bit.ly/cf9HJ4 | Feb 20 12:50 | |
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| MinceR | j0 | Feb 20 13:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] The 2012 olympics.....really great....forget our "unique" idea of what makes a good logo, we'll be paying for it for a long time to come. | Feb 20 13:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and except those that are in it, who really cares? World Cup? Yes I would agree..Olympics - complete waste of MY money. | Feb 20 13:15 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] and YOURS. Maybe if we concentrated on getting people housed and solving poverty first, or am I just being silly? | Feb 20 13:16 | |
| MinceR | http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/02/20/0118230/iPhones-Liquid-Sensors-Can-Be-Triggered-By-Wintertime-Use?from=rss | Feb 20 13:16 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Eek LILO (not grub) wont update on my desktop PC that has a failed raid disk.. suggestions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/380352/ | Feb 20 13:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin If they held it in my town I would not watch it, competition is way over rated | Feb 20 13:26 | |
| DaemonFC | heh | Feb 20 13:26 |
| DaemonFC | Chicago's mayor really fucked them over. The olympics loses the host city money in things like police overtime, more crime, cleaning up afterwards | Feb 20 13:27 |
| DaemonFC | yet cities fight over who gets to deal with that pain in the ass and then have eco-terrorists and hippies causing all kinds of shit | Feb 20 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | setting off bombs, etc. | Feb 20 13:28 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera Same here, im sure those in poverty will be very pleased the 2012 olympics are costing so much... | Feb 20 13:29 | |
| DaemonFC | I'd be trying to keep the Olympics out of my city if I was the mayor | Feb 20 13:29 |
| DaemonFC | yes, let Canada eat the $5 million net loss for the trouble of hosting them | Feb 20 13:29 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera BTW Great logo eh? Great advert for the UK...a graffiti style "tag"..."come to the UK....its lovely" | Feb 20 13:30 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] I feliciteer heel Nederland met de val van dit middeleeuwse gristenkabinet. Hoezé, hoezé, hoezé :-) | Feb 20 13:31 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Im not sure where my 2012 rant came from, but now its done, I feel much better. | Feb 20 13:31 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin is that the same logo they designed a few years back? If so not sure how i feel about it. | Feb 20 13:33 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @satipera When you compare it to the dignified logo's other countries had it looks awful (IMO) | Feb 20 13:36 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] @_Goblin The evidence I have seen is that it as inefficient way to invest in an area, negative return for money spent its a national vanity | Feb 20 13:37 | |
| schestowitz | TED became a marketing expo now? http://geeksmack.net/index.php/microsoft/1082-microsoft-shows-off-new-bing-maps-features-at-ted | Feb 20 13:39 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] RE: @andrewparker I am amazed at how clueless software engineers are about other fields. There is no difference betwe… http://disq.us/cfbkz | Feb 20 13:40 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] RE: Easy. Keep bugging your politicians. If they aren't aware of your concern, they won't consider it. http://disq.us/cfboj | Feb 20 13:42 | |
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| DaemonFC | I'm not against patents, but I am against how loosely and ludicrously the USPTO hands them out | Feb 20 13:42 |
| DaemonFC | in many cases you can end up with three or four people holding patents on the same idea because they worded the application differently | Feb 20 13:43 |
| DaemonFC | then you don't know who to pay royalties to even if the patent isn't bogus | Feb 20 13:44 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] RE: TMac, I'm for abolishing all patents. However I consider copyright an necessity. Patents are an excuse to avoid c… http://disq.us/cfbyq | Feb 20 13:46 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC: did you go? http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/1300-technical-experts-arrive-in-redmond-for-microsofts-2010-mvp-global-summit-84468037.html | Feb 20 14:01 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Twitchy moment. Just hot-swapped a SATA disk on my Ubuntu desktop. Worked fine, now RAID rebuilding. Love it! | Feb 20 14:01 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[serk01/@serk01] installng Linux MInt on my girlfriend's laptop.About time to kick those Windows habits for her! | Feb 20 14:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] There is something very nice about getting a cheque from the tax man. Especially when they originally claimed I owed them! | Feb 20 14:03 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There was a time when I was "enthusiastic" about Windows only in the sense that everything else either sucked more or had no possibility of working on my system | Feb 20 14:06 |
| DaemonFC | that's been a while | Feb 20 14:06 |
| schestowitz | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE61I2X420100219 ??/ | Feb 20 14:07 |
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| DaemonFC | At that time, I think Linux was 2.0 and had lots of bugs and missing drivers | Feb 20 14:07 |
| DaemonFC | and Macs ran OS 9 which actually was more unstable than Windows Me :) | Feb 20 14:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: yes, I remember old Linux | Feb 20 14:08 |
| schestowitz | I had to make compromises back then | Feb 20 14:08 |
| schestowitz | I even had a windows partition back in the days | Feb 20 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | I remember installing Mandriva on that system and there was NO 3dfx driver, FOSS or Proprietary | Feb 20 14:08 |
| schestowitz | I zapped the last such partition in 2005 IIRC | Feb 20 14:08 |
| schestowitz | People forget how much progress desktop Linux has made | Feb 20 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | there was a driver for my modem that "some guy" with the same modem wrote for his personal use and wasn't part of the kernel | Feb 20 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Whereas it's still compared to XP | Feb 20 14:09 |
| MinceR | macos 9 was technologically less advanced than win95 | Feb 20 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Which existed even in the earlier days of SUSE 7 | Feb 20 14:09 |
| MinceR | so no surprise there | Feb 20 14:09 |
| schestowitz | macos? | Feb 20 14:09 |
| schestowitz | What's that? | Feb 20 14:09 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like a toy from China | Feb 20 14:09 |
| MinceR | it is | Feb 20 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | comparing it to XP just gets funnier and funnier with each successive rounds of distro updates | Feb 20 14:10 |
| schestowitz | Oh. | Feb 20 14:10 |
| MinceR | well, the hardware part of those toys are from china | Feb 20 14:10 |
| MinceR | the "os" from jesusland, afaik | Feb 20 14:10 |
| DaemonFC | I might cede a few points in favor of XP if we were talking about 2004 | Feb 20 14:10 |
| MinceR | well, it used to be from jesusland | Feb 20 14:10 |
| schestowitz | In the news this week: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/18/AR2010021801031.html | Feb 20 14:10 |
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| MinceR | osx is only assembled there :> | Feb 20 14:10 |
| schestowitz | They really kick ass at it | Feb 20 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, now it's from Bangalore and comes with a complimentary chicken vindaloo | Feb 20 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 14:11 |
| schestowitz | You should see the dexterity\ | Feb 20 14:11 |
| schestowitz | They assemble things so quickly after practising 15 hours a day | Feb 20 14:11 |
| schestowitz | I can find a video to show you | Feb 20 14:11 |
| schestowitz | It's amazingf | Feb 20 14:11 |
| MinceR | doesn't matter if the design is flawed :> | Feb 20 14:11 |
| schestowitz | They have on the production line checks | Feb 20 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | that's why they fail so much | Feb 20 14:12 |
| MinceR | such as the Amazing Self-Melting Mag[Un]Safe Connector! | Feb 20 14:12 |
| schestowitz | They toss the defects away | Feb 20 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | none of those slaves making 10 cents an hour care about your FUCKING MAC! | Feb 20 14:12 |
| schestowitz | The thing is, it's quantity over quality | Feb 20 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 14:12 |
| schestowitz | PJ has just spoken about Mac Asay | Feb 20 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | I used to joke that HPs and Compaqs fail so much because of all the sweat in them from Chinese slaves | Feb 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz | " [PJ: I see Matt, newly hired by Canonical, is already pushing proprietary software for Linux. The mystery meat fusion at Ubuntu is clearly the direction. Note also the use of the description "savvy", implying that those who don't fuse FOSS and proprietary software are not savvy. We'll see. And not to be unkindly logical, but if it were apples-to-apples equivalent already, why does he think Linux needs proprietary solutions? And | Feb 20 14:13 |
| schestowitz | speaking for myself, I don't use Skype, and I never need to.]" | Feb 20 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | shorts them out | Feb 20 14:13 |
| MinceR | is he pushing for it as a default part or an option? | Feb 20 14:13 |
| MinceR | for users held hostage by their apps, having them available on gnu/linux would probably be a good thing | Feb 20 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, They "integrated" Ubuntu One into the new user crapplet | Feb 20 14:14 |
| MinceR | the user switcher on the panel? | Feb 20 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | yeah | Feb 20 14:15 |
| MinceR | what's ubuntu one doing there? | Feb 20 14:15 |
| MinceR | and is its client proprietary or only the server? can the user use a different service with that client? | Feb 20 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/1325/screenshotpu.png | Feb 20 14:16 |
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| schestowitz | Guys. I need your comments form tomorrow's post: | Feb 20 14:16 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tickerspy.com/newswire/?p=1550 | Feb 20 14:17 |
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| schestowitz | "Looking at the Gates Foundation’s holdings from the end of 2009, one can see that the endowment was trimming to its massive Berkshire Hathaway stake. Elsewhere, Gates was making limited moves, adding shares of Mexican broadcaster Grupo Televisa (TV) and vehicle dealer AutoNation (AN)." | Feb 20 14:17 |
| schestowitz | "The Gates Foundation also held steady with large stakes in fast food chain McDonald’s (MCD), beverage maker Coca-Cola (KO), heavy equipment maker Caterpillar (CAT), waste services firm Waste Management (WM), energy giants Exxon Mobil (XOM) and BP (BP) and discount retailer Wal-Mart (WMT)." | Feb 20 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, No, you can only use Amazon's servers | Feb 20 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | they give you 2 GB for free | Feb 20 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | then if you want 50, it's $10 a month | Feb 20 14:17 |
| schestowitz | Storage for sale... | Feb 20 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | you can set it to remote backup your home folder | Feb 20 14:18 |
| schestowitz | Or find a make to rsync with | Feb 20 14:18 |
| schestowitz | /make/mate/ | Feb 20 14:19 |
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| MinceR | i don't like it but it doesn't bother me that much, at least not yet | Feb 20 14:20 |
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| schestowitz | Aussie adverts: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/chief-executives-expected-to-take-up-microsofts-surface/story-e6frgakx-1225830681962 | Feb 20 14:21 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Chief executives expected to take up Microsoft's Surface | The Australian .::. Size~: 48.41 KB | Feb 20 14:22 |
| MinceR | 151358 < MinceR> i don't like it but it doesn't bother me that much, at least not yet | Feb 20 14:22 |
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| DaemonFC | hmmmm | Feb 20 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store | Feb 20 14:25 |
| DaemonFC | "The music store is under development, please be patient" | Feb 20 14:27 |
| cubezzz | he's diversified | Feb 20 14:28 |
| cubezzz | Gates knows not to keep all his assets with Microsoft | Feb 20 14:28 |
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| Diablo-D3 | http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/199516938 | Feb 20 14:28 |
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| Diablo-D3 | fucking awesome | Feb 20 14:28 |
| DaemonFC | clicking on ubuntu one doesn't do anything :P | Feb 20 14:30 |
| schestowitz | Dell... supine! http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dell-helps-customers-efficiently-deploy-update-and-monitor-it-resources-for-enterprises-using-microsoft-system-center-2010-02-16?reflink=MW_news_stmp | Feb 20 14:31 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: not the points though | Feb 20 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I'll write to explain this tomrorrow | Feb 20 14:32 |
| DaemonFC | indicator crapplet is now mandatory | Feb 20 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | otherwise some things have no tray icon at all | Feb 20 14:37 |
| DaemonFC | but other things still perch themselves in the notification area | Feb 20 14:37 |
| MinceR | oh | Feb 20 14:39 |
| MinceR | what things don't have a tray icon then? | Feb 20 14:40 |
| DaemonFC | well, rhythmbox for one | Feb 20 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | and if you do use indicator crapplet, you effectively have two system trays | Feb 20 14:42 |
| DaemonFC | empathy has been patched as well | Feb 20 14:44 |
| MinceR | ic | Feb 20 14:45 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/9374/afs.png | Feb 20 14:45 |
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| MinceR | old | Feb 20 14:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | what is? | Feb 20 14:47 |
| MinceR | the last image | Feb 20 14:47 |
| MinceR | you've linked to those posts already | Feb 20 14:47 |
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| Diablo-D3 | the original went boom so I saved it | Feb 20 14:48 |
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| DaemonFC | yeah, Ubuntu is trying to be Mac OS | Feb 20 14:58 |
| DaemonFC | that much is clear | Feb 20 14:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Shoq [Yoo, et al] shamed this nation. They dragged America's reputation in the dirt //much worse: they "enabled"+did torture. Never again! | Feb 20 15:13 | |
| DaemonFC | hmmmm, we may get a chance to throw the bastards out this year | Feb 20 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | every elected office in the county has challengers | Feb 20 15:16 |
| DaemonFC | including the sheriff and the mayor | Feb 20 15:16 |
| *DaemonFC will show up just to vote for "the other guy" in those cases | Feb 20 15:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] "confessing to..elements of war crime on TV apparently does not, ..in this country, lead to any..danger [of prosecution]" http://is.gd/8Nr3M | Feb 20 15:17 | |
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| DaemonFC | if we give our current mayor two more years, he'll finish bankrupting the town | Feb 20 15:17 |
| DaemonFC | he needed to go years ago, but it's good that people may be waking up to get rid of him before he does more damage | Feb 20 15:18 |
| DaemonFC | he was holding town hall meeting when he was raising taxes, laying off firefighters, and cutting garbage pickups, to "solicit ideas from the public" to help fix the budget | Feb 20 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | trying to deflect attention from himself | Feb 20 15:20 |
| DaemonFC | as if his fuck-ups were OK by saying "You got any better ideas?" and some people did, who were immediately ignores | Feb 20 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | *ignored | Feb 20 15:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgOx2bMtmcE | Feb 20 15:23 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFA407tA9wU | Feb 20 15:30 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[aondo] The Durian Project is still having a sprint, i submitted a 3d model of a dog skull. hope it can be of use :D almost 300 watching live stream | Feb 20 15:31 | |
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| wispygalaxy | what's up, everyone? | Feb 20 15:32 |
| wispygalaxy | is everyone sleeping late this saturday morning? | Feb 20 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | no | Feb 20 15:36 |
| wispygalaxy | hey there | Feb 20 15:36 |
| *DaemonFC is waiting for the pizza hut salad bar to open | Feb 20 15:36 | |
| wispygalaxy | ive been up since 7am actually :P | Feb 20 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | so I can make a $6 salad pyramid | Feb 20 15:36 |
| DaemonFC | take it home with me | Feb 20 15:36 |
| wispygalaxy | haha yeah i hate waiting for lunch to start | Feb 20 15:36 |
| wispygalaxy | once, my dad called pizza hut. they said to call back because they were busy. he did this three times then he gave up | Feb 20 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'm thinking poppyseed dressing on this beast | Feb 20 15:37 |
| wispygalaxy | i like italian dressing | Feb 20 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | their salad bar is legendary | Feb 20 15:37 |
| wispygalaxy | sometimes i like croutons | Feb 20 15:37 |
| wispygalaxy | yep, we have a pizza hut by my house | Feb 20 15:37 |
| DaemonFC | it tastes like they went in the backyard and picked everything that day | Feb 20 15:38 |
| wispygalaxy | id get free pan pizza because in school, if you read over 200 pgs a week in a book, you'd get a free coupon | Feb 20 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | don't know where they get that stuff at | Feb 20 15:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | man | Feb 20 15:38 |
| wispygalaxy | fresh food is good, they care about your health | Feb 20 15:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | that pziza hut shit | Feb 20 15:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | I remember that | Feb 20 15:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | problem is | Feb 20 15:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | we had to fight our local pizza hut to honor it | Feb 20 15:38 |
| DaemonFC | I don't really like their pizza | Feb 20 15:39 |
| wispygalaxy | id get a free toping too | Feb 20 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | their salad is good though | Feb 20 15:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | since pizza hut corporate was doing it | Feb 20 15:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | and didnt inform the local franchises properly | Feb 20 15:39 |
| wispygalaxy | i guess my pizza hut was nice to the studnets | Feb 20 15:39 |
| Diablo-D3 | as in, they must honor it, its not a choice | Feb 20 15:39 |
| *Diablo-D3 hates tards | Feb 20 15:39 | |
| DaemonFC | well, they can't make a franchise honor anything | Feb 20 15:39 |
| wispygalaxy | you should have forced the issue to them , its your right | Feb 20 15:39 |
| DaemonFC | that's why it says offer good at participating locations on the coupon | Feb 20 15:40 |
| wispygalaxy | their pizza is alright | Feb 20 15:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | well, no, they ended up accepting it | Feb 20 15:40 |
| wispygalaxy | my sisters like the buffalo wings | Feb 20 15:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | and their pizza sucks | Feb 20 15:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | pizza hut is shit compared to any decent local place | Feb 20 15:40 |
| wispygalaxy | thats true :P | Feb 20 15:40 |
| DaemonFC | I like Dominos or Little Caesars | Feb 20 15:40 |
| Diablo-D3 | and we have a good local place, and they get my business at least once a month | Feb 20 15:40 |
| wispygalaxy | yep, my family is friends with an owner of a pizza shop | Feb 20 15:41 |
| wispygalaxy | i hate frozen pizza | Feb 20 15:41 |
| wispygalaxy | i cant warm it up right- the center is still cold | Feb 20 15:41 |
| Diablo-D3 | your oven sucks. | Feb 20 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | rising crust? | Feb 20 15:41 |
| DaemonFC | you're not supposed to preheat for those :) | Feb 20 15:42 |
| wispygalaxy | i guess so diablo XD | Feb 20 15:42 |
| wispygalaxy | ohh i see | Feb 20 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | says so on the box | Feb 20 15:42 |
| wispygalaxy | the crust never rises | Feb 20 15:42 |
| DaemonFC | they end up doughy | Feb 20 15:42 |
| wispygalaxy | i never read the box ahah | Feb 20 15:42 |
| wispygalaxy | i rarely make frozen pizza anyway | Feb 20 15:42 |
| wispygalaxy | remember that dominos pizza commercial where people complain about the pizza | Feb 20 15:43 |
| wispygalaxy | that was pretty clever | Feb 20 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | frozen ones can be good | Feb 20 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | just don't spend less than $5 on one | Feb 20 15:43 |
| wispygalaxy | i can get frozen pizza for 66 cents a box during sales | Feb 20 15:43 |
| DaemonFC | by that time you can go get a large at Little Caesars | Feb 20 15:43 |
| wispygalaxy | needless to say, the cheese has no taste and the sauce tastes like ketchup | Feb 20 15:44 |
| wispygalaxy | there's no little caesar's by where i live :( | Feb 20 15:44 |
| wispygalaxy | im complaining about the frozen pizza, not little caesar's | Feb 20 15:44 |
| wispygalaxy | we've made pizza at home a few times.. it takes a while for the dough to rise | Feb 20 15:45 |
| DaemonFC | I hate doing that | Feb 20 15:46 |
| DaemonFC | the Chef Boyardee pizza kits are good | Feb 20 15:46 |
| wispygalaxy | ive seen those kits, also they have those taco bell kits | Feb 20 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | I'm in trouble with my cholesterol | Feb 20 15:47 |
| DaemonFC | my doctor would kill me if she sees what I eat :P | Feb 20 15:47 |
| wispygalaxy | uh oh | Feb 20 15:47 |
| wispygalaxy | i make sure to eat a salad everyday | Feb 20 15:47 |
| wispygalaxy | and fruit | Feb 20 15:48 |
| wispygalaxy | it really helps the skin | Feb 20 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | the drug company (Astrazeneca) was being real bad about sending me my Crestor refills | Feb 20 15:48 |
| wispygalaxy | i also only drink water- sugar is bad for the skin | Feb 20 15:48 |
| DaemonFC | so I asked her to just switch me to Pravastatin | Feb 20 15:48 |
| wispygalaxy | are you feeling better? | Feb 20 15:48 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The ultimate list for the ignorant #Windows kool-aide junkies. http://tinyurl.com/y8vpm8m | Feb 20 15:49 | |
| DaemonFC | well, it's not something you feel until 30 years later when you're having a stroke | Feb 20 15:49 |
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| DaemonFC | lol | Feb 20 15:49 |
| wispygalaxy | heh i thought so | Feb 20 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | statins stop your liver from making its own cholesterol | Feb 20 15:49 |
| wispygalaxy | but i thought that you'd feel *something* | Feb 20 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | nope | Feb 20 15:49 |
| DaemonFC | blood test, lipid profile | Feb 20 15:50 |
| wispygalaxy | i eat eggs often, and im lucky so far :P | Feb 20 15:50 |
| DaemonFC | well, if you avoid the yolk, you avoid 99% of the cholesterol in that egg | Feb 20 15:50 |
| wispygalaxy | the yolk is the best part! | Feb 20 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | get a separator and just toss the yolks | Feb 20 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | eqq beaters are the same thing, just way more expensive | Feb 20 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 15:51 |
| wispygalaxy | they have egg beaters that comes in a carton | Feb 20 15:51 |
| wispygalaxy | haha i was thinking of that | Feb 20 15:51 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, if I make a cake or something, I end up using egg whites | Feb 20 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | and that baking splenda | Feb 20 15:52 |
| wispygalaxy | ive used egg beaters in cooking class- this class made us eat healthier. so we substituted white bread for whole grain, etx | Feb 20 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | tastes all the same, just lots less sugar, calories, and cholesterol | Feb 20 15:52 |
| wispygalaxy | the wonders of modern science | Feb 20 15:52 |
| DaemonFC | well, what's interesting is that there's a natural statin in some types of rice | Feb 20 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | but the US government banned selling that kind of rice | Feb 20 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | cause they didn't want people to get out of paying for the same thing in a pill | Feb 20 15:53 |
| wispygalaxy | hmmmm | Feb 20 15:53 |
| DaemonFC | (lovastatin) | Feb 20 15:53 |
| wispygalaxy | so they only care about profit, not society's health | Feb 20 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | Lovastatin has pretty much no side effects | Feb 20 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | it's just not as powerful as other statins | Feb 20 15:54 |
| DaemonFC | if you can get your LDL down below 100 with Lovastatin, you should | Feb 20 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | doctors like to write out prescriptions for the most patented, highest priced crap there is | Feb 20 15:55 |
| wispygalaxy | do they offer you generics? | Feb 20 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | there was once where my former doctor tried writing me a prescription that was $240 | Feb 20 15:55 |
| DaemonFC | when there was an older generic version for $40 | Feb 20 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | only difference was with the generic, you took it twice a day | Feb 20 15:56 |
| wispygalaxy | wow that's bad | Feb 20 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | I took it back and made her rewrite it | Feb 20 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | everything I'm on now is $4 a month though | Feb 20 15:56 |
| DaemonFC | so I pay $12 a month for my medications | Feb 20 15:57 |
| wispygalaxy | doing your own research will get your own way often with a doctor | Feb 20 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | stick with the generics | Feb 20 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, you have to know what to ask them for | Feb 20 15:57 |
| wispygalaxy | my sister is a bio major, so she knows about this stuff | Feb 20 15:57 |
| DaemonFC | they get drug company bribes | Feb 20 15:57 |
| wispygalaxy | i ask her about health stuff from time to time | Feb 20 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/technology/19china.html?em | Feb 20 15:58 |
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| Diablo-D3 | did we bring this up yet? | Feb 20 15:58 |
| wispygalaxy | oh i didnt see that | Feb 20 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravastatin | Feb 20 15:58 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Pravastatin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .::. Size~: 39.07 KB | Feb 20 15:58 |
| wispygalaxy | thx for the links | Feb 20 15:58 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisinopril | Feb 20 15:58 |
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| DaemonFC | lisinopril is very effective against high blood pressure | Feb 20 15:59 |
| DaemonFC | been a generic for years | Feb 20 15:59 |
| wispygalaxy | do the generics work better than the expensive stuff? | Feb 20 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | wispygalaxy, When a drug company is about to lose their monopoly (patent), they do anything to shift the focus onto the new drug | Feb 20 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | whether it actually works better or not | Feb 20 16:00 |
| DaemonFC | sometimes it's a new way of re-patenting their old drug | Feb 20 16:00 |
| wispygalaxy | well, that's just not fair | Feb 20 16:01 |
| wispygalaxy | they should be concerned with health | Feb 20 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | usually the older generic is cheaper, just as effective as the newer drugs, and well documented side effects | Feb 20 16:01 |
| wispygalaxy | not profit | Feb 20 16:01 |
| Omar87 | Howdy all. | Feb 20 16:01 |
| DaemonFC | because people have been taking it for years | Feb 20 16:01 |
| wispygalaxy | hi omar | Feb 20 16:01 |
| Omar87 | wispygalaxy, oh hi! | Feb 20 16:01 |
| wispygalaxy | so the generics have proven themselves | Feb 20 16:02 |
| Omar87 | LOL! | Feb 20 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | wispygalaxy, AstraZeneca is charging almost $160 a bottle for Crestor | Feb 20 16:02 |
| wispygalaxy | i would wait if a new drug came out | Feb 20 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | The only difference is that Crestor 10 is as effective as Pavastatin 20s | Feb 20 16:02 |
| wispygalaxy | thats outrageous | Feb 20 16:02 |
| DaemonFC | that's not a reason to go from pravastatin to Crestor | Feb 20 16:02 |
| wispygalaxy | haha | Feb 20 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | pravastatin went public domain in 2006 | Feb 20 16:03 |
| Omar87 | Isn't it funny -yet pathetic- how some people talk proudly about themselves being a Microsoft flock of sheep? | Feb 20 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | GlaxoSmithKline was selling it for hundreds of dollars a bottle as Pravachol | Feb 20 16:03 |
| DaemonFC | now it's $4 from some Israeli company | Feb 20 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | hehe | Feb 20 16:04 |
| wispygalaxy | what a deal! | Feb 20 16:04 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Isn't it funny -yet pathetic- how some people talk proudly about themselves being a Microsoft flock of sheep | Feb 20 16:04 | |
| DaemonFC | wispygalaxy, Like Prozac | Feb 20 16:04 |
| wispygalaxy | who would like to be a sheep for a corp? | Feb 20 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | You never see a Prozac commercial anymore because it's not patented anymore | Feb 20 16:04 |
| wispygalaxy | why do people like to follow MS like they follow celebs? | Feb 20 16:04 |
| DaemonFC | the generic is $4 | Feb 20 16:04 |
| wispygalaxy | yeah i never see prozac commercials | Feb 20 16:05 |
| DaemonFC | Eli Lilly is trying to sell everyone Cymbalta now for $200 a bottle | Feb 20 16:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Cancer quack threatens all critics with expensive lawsuits http://tiny.cc/MsCTL time for the Internet to say "hi" | Feb 20 16:05 | |
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| Diablo-D3 | Omar87: OH MAN | Feb 20 16:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | MICROSOFT IS SO AWESOME | Feb 20 16:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | 7 IS THE BEST OS EVER | Feb 20 16:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | SERIOUSLY, BILL GATES GIVES ME A BONER | Feb 20 16:05 |
| Omar87 | lol | Feb 20 16:05 |
| wispygalaxy | i havent tried out win 7 yet | Feb 20 16:05 |
| wispygalaxy | haha | Feb 20 16:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | wispygalaxy: eh, its not as bad as everyone thinks | Feb 20 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | You only have 7 I have Windows 43, I went to the future and got it | Feb 20 16:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Isn't it funny -yet pathetic- how some people brag proudly about themselves being a Microsoft flock of sheep? | Feb 20 16:06 | |
| DaemonFC | it has 4D ray traced GUI | Feb 20 16:06 |
| DaemonFC | so nyaaah :P | Feb 20 16:06 |
| wispygalaxy | heyyyyy | Feb 20 16:06 |
| Omar87 | lol :D | Feb 20 16:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | compared to 2k, xp, and vista | Feb 20 16:06 |
| wispygalaxy | well, ill take linux any day | Feb 20 16:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | its above vista, below 2k, and about where xp is | Feb 20 16:06 |
| wispygalaxy | people who like xp will be happy with win 7, is that the case? | Feb 20 16:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | basically yeah | Feb 20 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | wispygalaxy, I was happy to beat my RadeonHD 4670 into running smoothly with the FOSS driver stack | Feb 20 16:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | 7 fixes a shitload of the really dumb vista problems | Feb 20 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | it still doesn't work 100%, but it's close enough | Feb 20 16:07 |
| DaemonFC | lot faster than ATI's driver | Feb 20 16:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you basically have to ditch xp anyhow | Feb 20 16:07 |
| wispygalaxy | i use xp on school computers | Feb 20 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | unless you have less than 4 gigs of memory, you're boned | Feb 20 16:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Apparently, catching @fromPaperChase in the act of blatant theft is "mudslinging." http://bit.ly/9ZXlb4 Physical real-world actions needed. | Feb 20 16:08 | |
| wispygalaxy | i only have 2 GB | Feb 20 16:08 |
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| DaemonFC | I'd rather take 90% that works well than 100% that crashes and stutters | Feb 20 16:08 |
| wispygalaxy | daemon, have you opened a HD before: | Feb 20 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have 8 | Feb 20 16:08 |
| DaemonFC | it'll improve over the next few months | Feb 20 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | booting xp, vista, or 7 32bit will bsod on boot | Feb 20 16:08 |
| wispygalaxy | i got my computer 3 years ago | Feb 20 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | xp64 has zero vendor support | Feb 20 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | vista is absolute shit | Feb 20 16:08 |
| wispygalaxy | heh | Feb 20 16:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | so for people like me the only alternative is 7 64 | Feb 20 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3, Actually, you can flog XP x64 into working, but it's not pretty | Feb 20 16:09 |
| wispygalaxy | i have 32bit debian lenny | Feb 20 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | I had to tell it my Sansa was an external hard disk before it went ahead and worked | Feb 20 16:09 |
| DaemonFC | that was amusing | Feb 20 16:09 |
| wispygalaxy | hahah | Feb 20 16:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | btw, if you have a 64bit processor, you should be using 64bit | Feb 20 16:09 |
| wispygalaxy | you lied to your computer | Feb 20 16:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | so you dont pay the 15% overhead | Feb 20 16:09 |
| wispygalaxy | my computer's getting old | Feb 20 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | there's no excuse to not go x86-64 if your processor can do it | Feb 20 16:10 |
| wispygalaxy | i dont think i can :( | Feb 20 16:10 |
| wispygalaxy | my sister has a 64 bit processor, though | Feb 20 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | what processor is it? | Feb 20 16:10 |
| wispygalaxy | she got her computer a year after me | Feb 20 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | some old Pentium 4's have it | Feb 20 16:10 |
| DaemonFC | even some old Celeron's based on Pentium 4 | Feb 20 16:11 |
| wispygalaxy | i dont know exactly, but it's intel | Feb 20 16:11 |
| wispygalaxy | on a toshiba laptop | Feb 20 16:11 |
| wispygalaxy | does anyone know where roy is at? | Feb 20 16:14 |
| wispygalaxy | it should be 4pm in the UK | Feb 20 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, not GMT offset | Feb 20 16:14 |
| DaemonFC | I'm GMT -5 | Feb 20 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | so schestowitz is always 5 hours ahead of me | Feb 20 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/files/2010/02/clip_image002_thumb_20D5B218.jpg | Feb 20 16:15 |
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| wispygalaxy | im in the same timezone as you | Feb 20 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | "The world's most widely used browser" | Feb 20 16:15 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft says that like anyone using it had a choice | Feb 20 16:16 |
| MinceR | they always say it like that | Feb 20 16:16 |
| MinceR | m$ fanboys always wank over winblows' market share as if the users had a choice | Feb 20 16:16 |
| wispygalaxy | i have a choice to snub IE 8 | Feb 20 16:16 |
| wispygalaxy | :P | Feb 20 16:16 |
| wispygalaxy | i really did not look back once i started using firefox | Feb 20 16:17 |
| MinceR | (and about m$ products' in general) | Feb 20 16:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm just as happy to be rid of FGLRX | Feb 20 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | made my entire day | Feb 20 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | what a pile of ancient crap | Feb 20 16:19 |
| DaemonFC | they made the unfortunate mistake of using DRI 1, unlike Nvidia which patched around it | Feb 20 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 16:20 |
| DaemonFC | from what I can gather, DRI 1 was designed for GPUs circa 1999 | Feb 20 16:21 |
| cubezzz | old doesn't necessarily mean bad | Feb 20 16:21 |
| DaemonFC | it does here | Feb 20 16:22 |
| DaemonFC | DRI 1 cripples a modern GPU | Feb 20 16:22 |
| cubezzz | how does it do that? | Feb 20 16:23 |
| DaemonFC | lots of internal locking is probably the biggest performance killer | Feb 20 16:26 |
| DaemonFC | DRI 2 also allows for Compiz to co-exist peacefully with Wine fullscreen games | Feb 20 16:28 |
| DaemonFC | and to not cause any real drag while a game is running | Feb 20 16:28 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Bak home.Exhausted after hours of shopping in T-nagar SKC. Got something for my mom, i am gonna present it on her birthday :-) Feels good :D | Feb 20 16:37 | |
| wispygalaxy | i g2g now, nice talking to you! | Feb 20 16:51 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Jimmy wales 'Theory of Failure : http://tinyurl.com/y9ejcux I want to watch this TEDx video. | Feb 20 16:57 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] ".. and in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.." ~Erasmus (of Rotterdam) | Feb 20 17:09 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] rt @albanrampon: Packages on #Fedora build sytem for #ARM http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/ | Feb 20 17:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@buzzflash more threatened by Stack,McVeigh white "mad as hell" males w/guns than some guys in Afg //so much for "fightin them over there" | Feb 20 17:29 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@buzzflash Tho to be fair, Stack & McVeigh's terror acts did not actually use guns. Their buds probably will,though. Means+opportunity... | Feb 20 17:31 | |
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| DaemonFC | lunch | Feb 20 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | sebsebseb, that's what I was out getting :) | Feb 20 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | the great salad pyramid | Feb 20 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | build using the inclined plane of cucumber slices | Feb 20 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | *and really big whips | Feb 20 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | though some people say it may have been caste in place | Feb 20 17:36 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC: I think that's the first time I have seen a photo of something like that | Feb 20 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | lettuce, cucumber, tomato, mushroom, sweet peppers, radishes, carrots, purple onions, chopped green peppers, chopped egg, bacon bits, shredded cheddar cheese, sunflower seed kernels, and goldfish crackers | Feb 20 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | poppyseed dressing | Feb 20 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Feb 20 17:39 |
| DaemonFC | thing felt like it might have been 3 pounds when I was done | Feb 20 17:41 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] At #scale in LA? 11.30am in Theater today I talk about opportunistic developers, how we enable them and show off some work done in Ubuntu. | Feb 20 18:10 | |
| DaemonFC | *cough* more crap we did to the interface that you poor unfortunate souls have to disable or live with | Feb 20 18:17 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi4o2cG_SsI | Feb 20 18:18 |
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| DaemonFC | the deal to use Ubuntu | Feb 20 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Feb 20 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | with Matt Asay as Ursula | Feb 20 18:19 |
| ender2070 | bah | Feb 20 18:20 |
| ender2070 | we'll just have to wait and see about ubuntu | Feb 20 18:20 |
| ender2070 | im happy with fedora | Feb 20 18:20 |
| ender2070 | the mono push, pushed me into kde and i like it so much I can't go back | Feb 20 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXc2mmL3VTM | Feb 20 18:29 |
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| DaemonFC | now THAT is disturbing | Feb 20 18:29 |
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| DaemonFC | oh yeah | Feb 20 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | :P | Feb 20 18:47 |
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| schestowitz | Nice show: http://linuxoutlaws.com/podcast/2 | Feb 20 19:16 |
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| *schestowitz got back, showered, resuming | Feb 20 19:16 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #Pidgin is really an awesome program to concentrate IM, mu-blog anad irc on low resource machines with a bigger screen | Feb 20 19:18 | |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, welcome back! | Feb 20 19:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Heading to do my talk - in theater in 15 at #scale | Feb 20 19:25 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @jonobacon All the best wishes! :-) | Feb 20 19:26 | |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu ischanging things for the sake of moving shit around | Feb 20 19:52 |
| schestowitz | Omar87: lots of news from Jordan today | Feb 20 19:53 |
| schestowitz | I will try to post it tomorrow | Feb 20 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Basically, the Barbarians take over your schools, universities, and Govt. | Feb 20 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Heh. "Recommended @schestowitz to MrTweet. "he's an indefatigable and extremely clued up advocate of all things Open Source and Linux" " | Feb 20 19:55 |
| schestowitz | http://twitter.com/robintcox/statuses/9387460082 | Feb 20 19:55 |
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| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 20 19:55 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, tell me something I don't know.. -_- | Feb 20 19:56 |
| schestowitz | there is lots | Feb 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | I'll post just links for now | Feb 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zawya.com/mobile/default.cfm/sidZAWYA20100214032934/%27Jordan%20should%20do%20more%20to%20combat%20piracy%27/actstory | Feb 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | http://boycottnovell.com/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_in_Jordan | Feb 20 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | new: http://www.albawaba.com/en/countries/Jordan/260980 | Feb 20 19:57 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: albawaba.com middle east news information::Microsoft Jordan Fact Sheet .::. Size~: 49.78 KB | Feb 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ameinfo.com/223955.html | Feb 20 19:57 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft Jordan to focus on improving IT capabilities of health and educational sectors | Microsoft Middle East | AMEinfo.com .::. Size~: 41.26 KB | Feb 20 19:57 |
| schestowitz | http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockNews/articleid/3864618 | Feb 20 19:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.albawaba.com/en/countries/Jordan/260711 | Feb 20 19:58 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.ameinfo.com/223935.html | Feb 20 19:58 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Software piracy rate dips in Jordan | Technology | AMEinfo.com .::. Size~: 34.97 KB | Feb 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | http://www.zawya.com/mobile/default.cfm/sidZAWYA20100214032934/%27Jordan%20should%20do%20more%20to%20combat%20piracy%27/actstory | Feb 20 19:58 |
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| schestowitz | That's from the past fortnight | Feb 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | HTH | Feb 20 19:58 |
| schestowitz | I'll crack it later... there's lots of lies and spin there... and corruption | Feb 20 19:58 |
| yuhong | Again, I can't resist with agreeing with Robotron 2084 here: | Feb 20 20:00 |
| yuhong | http://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/19/dell-down-despite-hype/ | Feb 20 20:00 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Business Down for Some Large OEMs Despite Vista 7 | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 99.3 KB | Feb 20 20:00 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* | Feb 20 20:00 |
| schestowitz | http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/19/wp-wikipedia-creator-had-lots-of-earlier-failures/ | Feb 20 20:00 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Wikipedia creator had lots of earlier failures .::. Size~: 98.61 KB | Feb 20 20:00 |
| schestowitz | They don't tell what he failed IN | Feb 20 20:00 |
| schestowitz | He was in the pr0n business | Feb 20 20:00 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: 'course ya can't! :-) | Feb 20 20:01 |
| schestowitz | yuhong: this trolls has used many names in many linux sites that he heckles | Feb 20 20:01 |
| schestowitz | I don't feed him | Feb 20 20:01 |
| yuhong | But I do, I run 2000 on most of my PCs at home other than this one, and XP on a P3 laptop similar to what is described, and I agree with him. | Feb 20 20:02 |
| yuhong | But yea, I try not to feed them, but sometimes I can't resist. | Feb 20 20:02 |
| yuhong | Remember the case of the rootkit that caused BSoD with a security update where the troll had the details? | Feb 20 20:03 |
| yuhong | Remember the case of the security update that conflict with a rootkit where Robotron 2084 was first to post with the details? | Feb 20 20:05 |
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| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100218/1835208230.shtml | Feb 20 20:24 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: AdWords Collections Attempt By Google Mutates Into Antitrust Lawsuit | Techdirt .::. Size~: 30.97 KB | Feb 20 20:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://cbs13.com/local/tracy.911.calls.2.1502690.html | Feb 20 20:30 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Tracy Residents Now Have To Pay For 911 Calls - cbs13.com .::. Size~: 97.08 KB | Feb 20 20:30 |
| schestowitz | Think twice before you call for help | Feb 20 20:30 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, saw that | Feb 20 20:31 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2010/02/18/would-you-pay-300-to-call-9-1-1-for-a-medical-emergency/#comment-201710 | Feb 20 20:31 |
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| DaemonFC | now had that woman had a gon, she could have shot the axe murderer, saved her family, and be forever hated by liberals everywhere | Feb 20 20:32 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Feb 20 20:32 |
| oiaohm | http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=12325&tag=content;col1 Boy idiots and MS press releases. | Feb 20 20:32 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Report: Microsoft, Asus partner on mobile phone | The Toybox | ZDNet.com .::. Size~: 101.25 KB | Feb 20 20:32 |
| oiaohm | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/feb10/02-15MWC10PR.mspx | Feb 20 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | *LOL* http://techdirt.com/articles/20100219/0353358240.shtml | Feb 20 20:32 |
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| oiaohm | Until the phones are made just because someone has partnered does not mean they will make phone. | Feb 20 20:33 |
| oiaohm | They have to partner to get access to all MS specs. | Feb 20 20:33 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, seen it | Feb 20 20:33 |
| schestowitz | The Vista phone is nothing | Feb 20 20:33 |
| oiaohm | Ie its FUD. schestowitz | Feb 20 20:33 |
| schestowitz | It won't have any effect | Feb 20 20:33 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: it's vapourware | Feb 20 20:34 |
| oiaohm | MS FUD we have all these unwilling supporters so its going to take off. | Feb 20 20:34 |
| oiaohm | This is way different to android. | Feb 20 20:34 |
| oiaohm | Android they makers could look at almost the full device before deciding if they would partner. | Feb 20 20:35 |
| oiaohm | Even then after companies did partner places like zdnet said nothing about it. | Feb 20 20:35 |
| oiaohm | What you call double standards in reporting. | Feb 20 20:35 |
| *DaemonFC hands schestowitz Duke Nukem Forever | Feb 20 20:36 | |
| DaemonFC | the PC has really become a second class citizen for gaming | Feb 20 20:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/02/can-you-trust-a-facebook-profile.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+PsychologyBlog+ | Feb 20 20:37 |
| DaemonFC | the few that were left were ruined by that Games For Windows crap | Feb 20 20:37 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Can You Trust a Facebook Profile? | PsyBlog .::. Size~: 27.72 KB | Feb 20 20:37 |
| schestowitz | oiaohm: yes, but zdnet is never reporting | Feb 20 20:38 |
| schestowitz | People tell me not to even link to it | Feb 20 20:38 |
| oiaohm | What made the PC a great gamers platform. DaemonFC | Feb 20 20:38 |
| DaemonFC | powerful hardware | Feb 20 20:38 |
| oiaohm | Not exactly. | Feb 20 20:39 |
| MinceR | powerful hardware, good modding capabilities, all controllers, great flexibility | Feb 20 20:39 |
| schestowitz | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100215/0036438160.shtml | Feb 20 20:39 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Role Of Curation In Journalism | Techdirt .::. Size~: 40.82 KB | Feb 20 20:39 |
| oiaohm | Moding and means for people to share there own games. | Feb 20 20:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 20 20:39 |
| MinceR | and no lock-in | Feb 20 20:39 |
| schestowitz | 1. Reporters -- who go out and do first person reporting -- creating original stories, not just reposting rewritten wire copy. | Feb 20 20:39 |
| schestowitz | 2. Columnists -- who "start conversations and give stories another perspective." | Feb 20 20:39 |
| schestowitz | 3. Curators -- who "'cover' the news by sorting, verifying and editing live everything good existing on the web and in the media. They make link journalism, they make the news more accessible." | Feb 20 20:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 20 20:39 |
| schestowitz | 4. Microsoft boosters | Feb 20 20:39 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Feb 20 20:39 |
| MinceR | at least not at the level of consoles | Feb 20 20:39 |
| oiaohm | Recent years home grown games and mods have died off a bit. | Feb 20 20:40 |
| Eruaran | I'd say what made it a great gamers platform was simply that those who wrote games supported it. | Feb 20 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | well, Games For Windows is a way for Microsoft to get game developers to actively attack Wine | Feb 20 20:40 |
| DaemonFC | the redist is a buggy goddamn nightmare even on Windows | Feb 20 20:40 |
| oiaohm | It was who could write games for it Eruaran | Feb 20 20:40 |
| oiaohm | Even the NES wanted 20 000 dollars for the development kit. | Feb 20 20:41 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @mparent77772 http://bit.ly/dp1SIr Carlos Slim has bought silence of #NYT on his JPMorgan loan scam -which means NYT is irrelevant #money | Feb 20 20:41 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: The Story the New York Times Won't Touch | The Big Money .::. Size~: 60.79 KB | Feb 20 20:41 |
| Eruaran | ah | Feb 20 20:41 |
| Eruaran | $20,000? | Feb 20 20:41 |
| Eruaran | wow | Feb 20 20:41 |
| oiaohm | USD Eruaran | Feb 20 20:41 |
| Eruaran | Simple maths then | Feb 20 20:42 |
| oiaohm | We will cycle to consoles for a while. | Feb 20 20:42 |
| oiaohm | MS is convincing payed for games there DRM reduces piracy. | Feb 20 20:42 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft gives their SDK out for free | Feb 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | for xbox | Feb 20 20:43 |
| Eruaran | It only angers and turns away gamers | Feb 20 20:43 |
| oiaohm | Can you release games with that. DaemonFC | Feb 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | well, yes and no | Feb 20 20:43 |
| oiaohm | MS has hidden the cost. NES was a flat 20 000 USD charge. | Feb 20 20:43 |
| MinceR | i doubt you can even sell games for the suxbox without making a deal with the devil^Wm$ | Feb 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | you have to buy a special developers XBOX to run unsigned games on | Feb 20 20:43 |
| DaemonFC | and MS charges a per copy signing fee when you go retail | Feb 20 20:44 |
| MinceR | the abusive console business model always applies | Feb 20 20:44 |
| oiaohm | Yep DaemonFC You have to pay for it. | Feb 20 20:44 |
| oiaohm | So open source developers cannot be in there. | Feb 20 20:44 |
| oiaohm | The hobists cannot be in there. | Feb 20 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | special developers XBOX was the translucent green on the original console | Feb 20 20:44 |
| DaemonFC | they used the same case for the HALO limited edition XBOX | Feb 20 20:45 |
| oiaohm | Even the .net thing option your users have to pay per year to use on the XBOX. | Feb 20 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | for 360, they are black | Feb 20 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | eventually that made its way to retail | Feb 20 20:45 |
| oiaohm | The developer form can be ordered in any style case you like. | Feb 20 20:46 |
| oiaohm | Thinking you are paying so much for it compared to a normal xbox 360 | Feb 20 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | someone was pestering Linux to put the original xbox patches into the mainline kernel back in 2004 | Feb 20 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | and he just wasn't having any of that | Feb 20 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | *pestering Linus | Feb 20 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | yes | Feb 20 20:48 |
| oiaohm | Look closer. | Feb 20 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | several thousand dollars | Feb 20 20:48 |
| oiaohm | The xbox version 1 patches all that are required are mainline. | Feb 20 20:48 |
| oiaohm | For the Linux kernel. | Feb 20 20:48 |
| oiaohm | One patch was hacking over a relocation error. | Feb 20 20:48 |
| oiaohm | So it failed. | Feb 20 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, but original XBOX isn't sold anymore | Feb 20 20:49 |
| oiaohm | And the relocation error got fixed. | Feb 20 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | and Xebian has those patches | Feb 20 20:49 |
| oiaohm | Xbox 360 is a lot harder to get into. | Feb 20 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xebian | Feb 20 20:49 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/19/nazi_uranium_dutch_scrapyard/ | Feb 20 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704269004575073580675774138.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection | Feb 20 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | Nice.............. http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/19/fractal-zoomer.html | Feb 20 20:53 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/obama-promises-15-billion-home-owners/ | Feb 20 20:59 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Obama promises $1.5 billion for home owners | Raw Story .::. Size~: 26.75 KB | Feb 20 20:59 |
| schestowitz | And 700 billion for BIG BANKS! *LOL* | Feb 20 20:59 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.amazon.com/reader/0230617735?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=sib_dp_ptu#reader_0230617735 | Feb 20 21:00 |
| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/book-cheney-pushed-war-russia/ | Feb 20 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | Anyone got the code in? https://lwn.net/Articles/374574 | Feb 20 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | Subs only | Feb 20 21:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @tlw3 Bob Barr At CPAC: 'How Would You Like To Be Waterboarded?' - http://tinyurl.com/yejdz3h // one courageous man in a sea of cowards | Feb 20 21:12 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @edwardvirtually google & wikipedia worst things to ever happen to right-wing lie machine // since invention of movable type, you mean? | Feb 20 21:14 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Symbolman @daveweigel #RainForest, Love It Or Leave it! // love it or leave the planet, #kthxbai | Feb 20 21:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk5Mw | Feb 20 21:16 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/New-attempt-to-integrate-AppArmor-into-Linux-935911.html | Feb 20 21:27 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: New attempt to integrate AppArmor into Linux - The H Security: News and Features .::. Size~: 31.44 KB | Feb 20 21:27 |
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| tessier_ | schestowitz: I would like to reboot your server to move it to some upgraded hardware today if that is ok with you. We are retiring the VMs on the box it is currently on and moving them elsewhere. | Feb 20 21:34 |
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| schestowitz | tessier_: sure | Feb 20 21:48 |
| schestowitz | go ahead :-) | Feb 20 21:49 |
| schestowitz | http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Freedom_Businesses_Protect_Privacy | Feb 20 22:01 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.unixmen.com/news-today/790-kolibrios-an-operating-system-on-a-144mb-floppy Heh. Value of choice prevails. | Feb 20 22:01 |
| schestowitz | Hmmmmm...... http://www.thevarguy.com/2010/02/17/magnolia-international-names-u-s-channel-chief/ | Feb 20 22:27 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] New follow up Blog Post: "U1 Music Store Store Music in U1?" http://bit.ly/9HeKWP | Feb 20 22:48 | |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: U1 Music Store Store Music in U1? | popey.com blog .::. Size~: 26.78 KB | Feb 20 22:48 |
| schestowitz | http://q-funk.blogspot.com/2010/02/ubuntulucid-recovering-from-yesterdays.html | Feb 20 22:57 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] from now on, my answer to any question will default to "But, NANOBOTS!!" | Feb 20 22:58 | |
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| Ender2070 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1252234/U-S-school-child-porn-probe-revealed-laptops-used-spy-pupils-home.html | Feb 20 23:06 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: U.S. school in 'child porn' probe after it is revealed laptops were used to spy on pupils at home | Mail Online .::. Size~: 69.6 KB | Feb 20 23:06 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Thursday 25th February at 18:00 UTC would be a good time to be reading http://planet.ubuntu.com :) Good news day. | Feb 20 23:07 | |
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| Ender2070 | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1251969/Mothers-fury-nanny-state-brands-healthy-daughter-5-fat-risk-heart-disease.html | Feb 20 23:07 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Mother's fury as nanny state brands her healthy daughter, 5, 'fat and at risk of heart disease' | Mail Online .::. Size~: 71.31 KB | Feb 20 23:07 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/244481/microsoft-program-promotes-use-legal-software-net-cafes "Citing a study by a global technology research firm, Magsadia said the country has a 69 percent software piracy rate. Magsadia bared the Microsoft Philippines has decided to reduce the standard retail price of its Windows 7, for instance, from P9,000 down to P2,000, to help alleviate the problem on piracy." of course, th | Feb 20 23:08 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Microsoft program promotes use of legal software in net cafes | Manila Bulletin .::. Size~: 19.14 KB | Feb 20 23:08 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS first goes after the "business" users | Feb 20 23:09 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Last I knew 50peso to the US dollar, so MS is selling Seven for less than $40 to these cafe owners, in order to get some of them to buy. | Feb 20 23:10 |
| schestowitz | Hey, Chips_B_Malroy | Feb 20 23:11 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Hi Roy | Feb 20 23:11 |
| schestowitz | Ender2070: yes, seen both articles | Feb 20 23:12 |
| schestowitz | I have a big bunch of daily links coming | Feb 20 23:12 |
| Ender2070 | crazyness | Feb 20 23:12 |
| Ender2070 | lol | Feb 20 23:12 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | MS going after piracy, is another way to squeeze out more revenue as profits decline. MS attempts to do this will increasingly become evil. | Feb 20 23:13 |
| Ender2070 | http://www.cfr.org/publication/8102/ | Feb 20 23:13 |
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| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: yes, In know | Feb 20 23:13 |
| schestowitz | They put it everywhere | Feb 20 23:13 |
| schestowitz | Many countries | Feb 20 23:13 |
| schestowitz | I have a post about it coming | Feb 20 23:13 |
| schestowitz | I'll quote you on it | Feb 20 23:14 |
| schestowitz | AstroTurf in the PH: http://www.gmanews.tv/story/183304/vip-mix-of-microsoft-targets-manilas-bloggers | Feb 20 23:14 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: 'VIP Mix' of Microsoft targets Manila's bloggers - Technology - GMANews.TV - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News .::. Size~: 70.72 KB | Feb 20 23:14 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | have you seen this one: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/19/AR2010021905975.html "Back when I was getting these reports about self-destructing MacBook drives -- which, in turn, followed published reports of manufacturing defects in certain models -- I asked Apple publicists twice for comment, but the Cupertino, Calif., company stuck to its usual silence. It did the same this week when I | Feb 20 23:15 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: - Help File: A belated fix for MacBook hard drives; a Windows patch gone bad - washingtonpost.com .::. Size~: 84.94 KB | Feb 20 23:15 |
| Ender2070 | http://rawstory.com/2010/02/mexican-foreign-minister-calls-north-american-union-unified-currency/ | Feb 20 23:15 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: Former Mexican foreign minister calls for North American union, unified currency | Raw Story .::. Size~: 44.65 KB | Feb 20 23:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | crApple | Feb 20 23:15 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | and the bad hard drives | Feb 20 23:15 |
| oiaohm | Bad hard drives are happening more and more often. | Feb 20 23:22 |
| Ender2070 | yeah | Feb 20 23:26 |
| Ender2070 | hard drive manufacturers typically dont have much competition | Feb 20 23:26 |
| Ender2070 | WD vs Seagate are the drivers of the tech | Feb 20 23:26 |
| Ender2070 | SSDs are going to make them obsolete | Feb 20 23:27 |
| schestowitz | Chips_B_Malroy: interesting link | Feb 20 23:29 |
| oiaohm | WD have kinda gone insane recently. | Feb 20 23:29 |
| oiaohm | Firmware to control the drive on the harddrive plats themself. | Feb 20 23:30 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | I have a friend with a Macbook Pro laptop, that the NVidia faulty video chip went bad on it. Apple fixed it cause it under warrenty. But what happens next time it goes bad. | Feb 20 23:34 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The Friend pays, I guess | Feb 20 23:35 |
| MinceR | or he gets another laptop | Feb 20 23:35 |
| MinceR | well, i guess that's in the "the friend pays" category though | Feb 20 23:35 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Just like when the XBox360's get a way beyond the 3 year warrenty, you pay to fix them: http://www.thepress.net/pages/ad_details/listing_details?id=20132187-fix-xbox-360-red-ring-of-death-repair-3-red-lights-overheating-and-other-errors ". If you are still within the one-year warranty then you have no problems, go ahead send it away, but expect to wait 4 to 8 weeks. If your Xbox is not under warranty, this option c | Feb 20 23:37 |
| phIRCe-BNc | Title: thepress.net - fix xbox 360 red ring of death repair 3 red lights overheating and other errors .::. Size~: 44.2 KB | Feb 20 23:37 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | well, thats old, its now 3 years on RROD and E74, but the price of fixing it has not gone down | Feb 20 23:38 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | At some point, XBOX360 users will have to pay to fix MS's faulty product | Feb 20 23:39 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | At up to $150 to fix an XBox360 beyond the quarintee period, MS might have a future and profits as a repair facility. | Feb 20 23:42 |
| *Balrog (~Balrog@pool-173-59-66-89.phlapa.east.verizon.net) has joined #boycottnovell | Feb 20 23:43 | |
| oiaohm | Particular boards in the Xbox360 should be forced recalls. | Feb 20 23:48 |
| oiaohm | Since they are 100 percent lemons. | Feb 20 23:48 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | Oiaohm> agreed, on the forced recalls, but who is going make MS do that? USA, Canada, Britian, the EU? | Feb 20 23:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | The courts? | Feb 20 23:52 |
| oiaohm | Here it would have to be put before fair trading. | Feb 20 23:52 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | as it should be done | Feb 20 23:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | already | Feb 20 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Currently MS here as agreed to replace without question any xbox 360 with either of the first 2 boards. | Feb 20 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Even if the warnitry period is up. | Feb 20 23:53 |
| oiaohm | Ie new machine new warnitiry. | Feb 20 23:53 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | ah, so they did more there than here, and even in your country, they try to do the minimum | Feb 20 23:54 |
| oiaohm | No fair trading here forced it. | Feb 20 23:54 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | even worse, for MS ethics | Feb 20 23:55 |
| oiaohm | MS did not want to extend the warnitirty. | Feb 20 23:55 |
| oiaohm | Fair trading deamed there was nothing left of the past machine in the replacement. | Feb 20 23:55 |
| oiaohm | And it was not like any of the first generation were staying alive. | Feb 20 23:56 |
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| Chips_B_Malroy | even the current models are failing | Feb 20 23:58 |
| Chips_B_Malroy | maybe not as bad | Feb 20 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Not due to the same things. | Feb 20 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Heck lot of the first models the heat paste was not even applied. | Feb 20 23:58 |
| oiaohm | Chances of living was basically nil. | Feb 20 23:58 |
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