| schestowitz | Scary stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSPgoa4UKFo | Mar 29 00:09 |
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| schestowitz | If you believe your peanut butter made man and someone ridicules it, then you can sue for 25000 euros | Mar 29 00:10 |
| cubezzz | ??? | Mar 29 00:11 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @sil Labour cares. About record companies. Not you. http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2010/03/28/labour-s-new-ad | Mar 29 00:18 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Links 28/3/2010: Sabayon 5.2 and GIMP Fun http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/28/sabayon-5-2/ | Mar 29 00:43 | |
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| schestowitz | "> Aha, good. Just wanted to make sure, because that documentary is too good to miss. I should probably go now to watch what I can of her other work like "Torture Made in Amerika" (sic) >By the way, I experimented with Konq as my main browser for 3 days. The only trouble I've had recently is that some sites like Facebook give me the mobile device interface. To get around that problem on Facebook, I use a user-agent string of Opera. I | Mar 29 00:49 |
| schestowitz | guess it's the downside of running a good, but relatively rarely used desktop browser which is more commonly used by mobile device makers. Despite this little trouble, I feel like it compares very well with other browsers." | Mar 29 00:49 |
| ender2070 | I have my konq identify as chrome | Mar 29 00:50 |
| MinceR | gn | Mar 29 00:50 |
| schestowitz | Odd humour. http://identi.ca/conversation/26408987#notice-26424730 | Mar 29 00:51 |
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| schestowitz | gn here too | Mar 29 00:51 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @peterdaou Fatty,refined #food may cause cocaine/heroin-like compulsion 2 overeat http://bit.ly/aYWGSC /good read! #obesity #diet #health | Mar 29 01:11 | |
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| ender2070 | sugar causes the same thing | Mar 29 01:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Just added tarfile Python snippets from Tim, and kicked off os module snippets. :-) | Mar 29 02:54 | |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/03/28/militia.arrests/?hpt=Sbin | Mar 29 03:25 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz: I found a car I think | Mar 29 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | my cousin is selling me hers | Mar 29 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | got a deal on it cause it needs some work | Mar 29 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | brakes and a new windshield | Mar 29 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | nothing major I guess | Mar 29 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | I can do the brake pads and rotors myself | Mar 29 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | I will have to get someone else to do the windshield | Mar 29 04:21 |
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| DaemonFC | I don't really know that it even needs rotors but I assume so | Mar 29 04:22 |
| DaemonFC | seems everyone other than me just murders their brakes and rides them out as they're squealing until the rotors can't be saved | Mar 29 04:23 |
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| DaemonFC | Jesus loves me, he loves me a bunch, cause he always puts Skippy in my lunch | Mar 29 04:56 |
| DaemonFC | lalala | Mar 29 04:56 |
| *DaemonFC bored | Mar 29 04:56 | |
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| *DaemonFC rages | Mar 29 04:57 | |
| *DaemonFC smash jono | Mar 29 04:57 | |
| jono | hey DaemonFC | Mar 29 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | morning | Mar 29 04:57 |
| jono | DaemonFC, what's up, honeybunny? | Mar 29 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | uhhhm | Mar 29 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't know you cared | Mar 29 04:57 |
| DaemonFC | :D | Mar 29 04:57 |
| jono | :) | Mar 29 04:57 |
| jono | I always care | Mar 29 04:57 |
| jono | :) | Mar 29 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | I think I scored a new-ish car at a price that makes it a win | Mar 29 04:58 |
| jono | sweet | Mar 29 04:58 |
| jono | what kind of car? | Mar 29 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | 2001 Pontiac Sunfire | Mar 29 04:58 |
| jono | awesome | Mar 29 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | needs brakes and a windshield, no big deal | Mar 29 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | priced out the windshield at $243 | Mar 29 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | it happened to be my favorite color | Mar 29 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | that's a bonus | Mar 29 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | and it has a CD player too! | Mar 29 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | no more conversion kit | Mar 29 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | hard to find CD to 8-track conversion kits ;) | Mar 29 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | thank goodness ebay has everything | Mar 29 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | I really hate this Ford Taurus | Mar 29 05:01 |
| DaemonFC | I've decided to sell it for scrap metal | Mar 29 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | it's too evil to continue limping on | Mar 29 05:02 |
| DaemonFC | now they can melt it down and 1,000 new cars will be made with the metal recovered | Mar 29 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | then all their owners will be cursed | Mar 29 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | but only 1/1,000th as cursed as me | Mar 29 05:03 |
| DaemonFC | jono: FORD backwars is DROF :) | Mar 29 05:08 |
| DaemonFC | Driver Returns On Foot | Mar 29 05:08 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@kirillcool Let's do what Hollywood does to settle debate bw dynamic & static languages-dance-off! //nah, hollywood LOVES false dichotomies | Mar 29 05:10 | |
| DaemonFC | I may have to clean the fuel injectors | Mar 29 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | my cousin said it idles a bit rough sometimes | Mar 29 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | of course it could be a dirty air filter | Mar 29 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | people ignore those | Mar 29 05:12 |
| jono | yeah | Mar 29 05:13 |
| jono | cool man :) | Mar 29 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | jono: I'm trying to prioritize repairs as I have money for them | Mar 29 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | brakes are obviously first | Mar 29 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | windshield can wait a few months, but I want that done before winter | Mar 29 05:16 |
| jono | makes sense | Mar 29 05:16 |
| jono | ok | Mar 29 05:16 |
| jono | biab | Mar 29 05:16 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] why pro-war powers & criminal corporations want to destroy @wikileaks http://bit.ly/c9akaL (Salon) #cia #usa #war #afghanistan #aclu #foia | Mar 29 05:37 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Andy just contributed a particularly cool Python snippet for showing how to create a webkit based UI button http://is.gd/b4yxi #python | Mar 29 05:43 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@saraheartsyou Murders are not fun. But make for good #news //hear Murdoch cackle "My #evil work here is done" #tabloidism #fear #paranoia | Mar 29 06:17 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Tosfm @troothinfo Canada won't take Chinese Muslims from #Guantanamo // #Harper leads #Canada further into uncivilised waters | Mar 29 06:23 | |
| DaemonFC | this all assumes that they're not just attention whoring | Mar 29 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | I've never seen anything terribly interesting on Wikileaks | Mar 29 06:24 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Harper the turd being transparently dishonest as usual RT @Lahey13 #Canada forbids reporting of #war casualties http://ow.ly/1qpDC #cdnpoli | Mar 29 06:28 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Writing an article for Linux Journal. :-) | Mar 29 07:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ...and listening to Bad Obsession by Guns n' Roses :-) | Mar 29 07:37 | |
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| schestowitz | jono: Linux Journal still alive? :-) | Mar 29 08:08 |
| jono | schestowitz it is indeed :) | Mar 29 08:08 |
| schestowitz | Their site has decided to grind to a halt | Mar 29 08:08 |
| schestowitz | I reckon they have enough for the monthly release, but it's just not how it used to be on the site | Mar 29 08:09 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Weekly Videocast Topics Suggestion Page - add your topics that you want covering! http://is.gd/b4I9C #ubuntu | Mar 29 08:09 | |
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| jono | right | Mar 29 08:11 |
| schestowitz | I had a chat with a friend yesterday because he's in journalism over here and he still refuses to accept that paper publications have their days numbered | Mar 29 08:14 |
| schestowitz | YouTube seems to have explored another model, making hardware to access content (Intel/Sony/Google) | Mar 29 08:15 |
| schestowitz | jono: you stopped posting for ZDNet temporarily/due to laziness? | Mar 29 08:23 |
| jono | schestowitz just got busy with other stuff | Mar 29 08:24 |
| jono | I only have limited non-work time available | Mar 29 08:24 |
| schestowitz | http://www.suaju.com/software-news/st-ericsson-uses-linux/1124 | Mar 29 08:30 |
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| schestowitz | Wow. Lots of good news today | Mar 29 08:30 |
| schestowitz | "The officially released version of the BPhone has the ARM Linux 2.6 as its operating system and on the inside; one would find a Marvell processor which runs at 624MHz." | Mar 29 08:33 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] "ARM Linux" is not a distro: http://topnews.us/content/214598-bphone-now-available-570 | Mar 29 08:34 | |
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| schestowitz | "Running “ARM Linux 2.6” on a Marvell PXA310 processor running at 624MHz, the tech specs show that it was actually launched in January 2010, but only seems to have caught the attention of the IT press now, nearly three months later." | Mar 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | Others caught that too http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/mobility/37924-behold-the-bphone-yeah-or-meh | Mar 29 08:37 |
| schestowitz | http://www.ps3center.net/news/4435/rumor-sony-planning-on-removing-linux-from-fat-ps3s-to-combat-piracy/ | Mar 29 08:41 |
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| schestowitz | Just rumour | Mar 29 08:41 |
| schestowitz | WTH? http://totalplaystation.com/ps3/news/8789/ | Mar 29 08:42 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] LibDems: when your *actions* are jawdroppingly awful, answering "here's some more nice words" as if that's a refutation is dodging the point | Mar 29 08:45 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: You don't really have a choice btw | Mar 29 08:52 |
| DaemonFC | the firmware updates are shipped on the game discs as well | Mar 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | What about labs that use PS3? | Mar 29 09:04 |
| schestowitz | They don't game | Mar 29 09:04 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Theora threatened by MPEGLA? Only a declaration of non-infringement by a court can clarify the situation: http://i5.be/aFF | Mar 29 09:34 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody RT @jobsworth If the Digital Economy Bill goes through in its current shape we will see some *real* civil disobedience | Mar 29 09:57 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] Getting your facts straight is always important to you, but no... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11 | Mar 29 09:58 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] hehehe - Ever Heard about "Divorce Cakes"? http://shikhamagic.blogspot.com/2010/03/ever-heard-about-divorce-cakes.html #fun | Mar 29 10:16 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] http://2tu.us/1vvr | Operation "Bribe The Peasents" continues | Mar 29 10:17 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @uupc We interview Simon Phipps @webmink tonight.Let us know if there's any burning questions you have about Sun.OSI,or anything else | Mar 29 10:23 | |
| DaemonFC | Bribe them with what? | Mar 29 10:48 |
| DaemonFC | beer, cigarettes, and pizza? | Mar 29 10:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz: Have you ever noticed that they can come out and get poor people to chant "No new taxes!!!" when the tax is only on people making more than $250,000 a year? | Mar 29 10:50 |
| DaemonFC | 90%+ of the population does not make that much per year | Mar 29 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | yet they act like it's a tax on working families barely making ends meet | Mar 29 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | speaks volumes about how stupid most people are | Mar 29 10:51 |
| DaemonFC | most people just make me want to beat them over the head with a whiffle bat shouting "STUPID STUPID STUPID!!!!!!!!" | Mar 29 10:52 |
| satipera | FC, those rich people need incentives to work, poor people need to be coerced | Mar 29 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | incentives? | Mar 29 10:52 |
| DaemonFC | $250,000 a year is not an incentive? | Mar 29 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | I can understand not wanting to work for $9 an hour when everything hurts and the workplace is unsafe and filthy | Mar 29 10:53 |
| satipera | well the poor dears apparently get depressed if they have to pay the same proportion of tax as poor people and refuse to work | Mar 29 10:53 |
| DaemonFC | $250,000 a year is what pencil pushers in some cozy office job make | Mar 29 10:54 |
| DaemonFC | why should they need any incentive? | Mar 29 10:54 |
| schestowitz | http://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/cbe-oss-dev/2010-February/007202.html | Mar 29 10:55 |
| satipera | That is the excuse put forward for their greed | Mar 29 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | the more money a person has, the less likely they are to have earned it | Mar 29 10:55 |
| DaemonFC | it's a law :) | Mar 29 10:55 |
| satipera | here is another money and time the more you have the more you waste | Mar 29 10:55 |
| satipera | Governments have a problem taxing high earners, poor people are sitting ducks | Mar 29 10:56 |
| DaemonFC | yeah, no lobbyists, no campaign contributions | Mar 29 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | can blame the other party | Mar 29 10:57 |
| satipera | Half the bankers in the city are threatening to go abroad at the moment | Mar 29 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 10:57 |
| DaemonFC | so? | Mar 29 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | they still do business there, right? | Mar 29 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | tax them on that | Mar 29 10:58 |
| satipera | Although it is mostly hot air it does underline the problem of fairly taxing these people | Mar 29 10:58 |
| DaemonFC | they can hide it all in the cayman islands | Mar 29 10:59 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 10:59 |
| satipera | That has been interesting, watching major regimes trying to clamp down on tax havens | Mar 29 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | yay, 75 on Thursday | Mar 29 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | B-) | Mar 29 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbg9wv_evidence-fail_fun | Mar 29 11:03 |
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| DaemonFC | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/27/mexican-police-chief-deca_n_515767.html | Mar 29 11:14 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[satipera] MP's expenses report being delivered now, gist is some MP's have to stand a little further away from the trough. | Mar 29 11:27 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @gilescoren Cheap arse eats out. http://bit.ly/cMm7Rk /'nother smashingly hilarious #London restaurant takedown "Comfort: 10. Cooking: 3" | Mar 29 11:39 | |
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| MinceR | j0 | Mar 29 11:43 |
| schestowitz | *LOL* this is great: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk | Mar 29 11:44 |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] UK Government pushing for increasingly terrorist agenda http://ur1.ca/saky | Mar 29 11:57 | |
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| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Why is the UNIX copyright case a jury trial? None of the juriors know Copyright law http://ur1.ca/sal7 | Mar 29 12:02 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Hubble builds dark matter 3D map http://ur1.ca/salt !science | Mar 29 12:02 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] ok #Huawei, your silly usb 3G modem helper app takes 20% cpu, 70+MB resident memory, AND spams my logs. Thanks a bunch! #fail | Mar 29 12:25 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Daily news gathered in http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/29/ietf-codec/ | Mar 29 12:53 | |
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| cubezzz | I'm still not sure about what the deal is with Unix | Mar 29 12:53 |
| cubezzz | if I wanted a modern Unix, where would I buy it from even? | Mar 29 12:54 |
| cubezzz | is AIX still current? | Mar 29 12:55 |
| cubezzz | last update 2007 | Mar 29 12:56 |
| MinceR | http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/ | Mar 29 12:57 |
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| MinceR | sony proves to its customers that it was a mistake to buy their products | Mar 29 12:58 |
| cubezzz | some of their DVD players had high failure parts | Mar 29 12:58 |
| cubezzz | I'd never buy a console | Mar 29 12:59 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Ok guys, How about FOSSDEVCONF ?? #foss (India Biggest ever Developer Oriented Conference) | Mar 29 13:18 | |
| DaemonFC | http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/03/29/christian-militia.html?sid=101 | Mar 29 13:23 |
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| DaemonFC | "They said they were under attack by the ATF and wanted a place to hide," he said. "My team leader said, 'No thanks.'" | Mar 29 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | lol | Mar 29 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | wise decision | Mar 29 13:23 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] Ok, You I will be able to ssh my car in future ;) http://bit.ly/dDawGi #andriod | Mar 29 13:23 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] My son is such a boy. So cute that he gets out his hobby horse. Then puts it on his shoulder and uses it like a rocket launcher. | Mar 29 13:37 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] My account balance is low ;( any proxy method in mobile world ;) | Mar 29 13:42 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@Symbolman @CRA1G If Palin were 80 lb heavier/15yrs older, with exactly same ideas, think she'd still be in the spotlight? //works 4 Cheney | Mar 29 13:42 | |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[sagarun/@sagarun] Career Advice – Don’t ever become a typist and struggle like me : http://ping.fm/IA3BD #nice /via @rsukumar | Mar 29 13:42 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s practices of #tax avoidance and ‘Internet tax’ continue to be defended by former #Microsoft managers http://ur1.ca/sb2q | Mar 29 13:53 | |
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| DaemonFC | ugggh | Mar 29 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | friend of mine is complaining about Walmart oil changes | Mar 29 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | I told him to just be glad it had oil in it when he left | Mar 29 13:57 |
| thenixedreport | lol | Mar 29 13:57 |
| DaemonFC | no reason to pay them for the full service, your car leaves with a dirty air filter, bad wiper blades, and they don't top off the wiper fluid, the tires, or check the battery | Mar 29 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | thenixedreport: I had them refuse to change my oil once cause the cord to unlatch the hood had come loose from the handle | Mar 29 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | so I connected them and was like "There, is that better?" | Mar 29 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | they told me that might cause my hood to fly open and make me crash....whatever *jerks his hand back and forth a few times* | Mar 29 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | idiots | Mar 29 14:00 |
| DaemonFC | so finally they had me sign a paper stating that I unlatched the hood | Mar 29 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | I told them the people that get them sued is THEM | Mar 29 14:01 |
| DaemonFC | the most horrific part about Walmart oil changes is that Walmart is "self-insured", so if they fuck up your car, you have to ask them to fix it | Mar 29 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | meaning, sue them | Mar 29 14:02 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart TLE is like a back alley coat hanger abortion | Mar 29 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | DaemonFC: wait wait wait | Mar 29 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | rewind here | Mar 29 14:03 |
| DaemonFC | yes? | Mar 29 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | <DaemonFC> I hate Walmart, Walmart sucks | Mar 29 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | DUDE, THEN STOP DOING BUSINESS WITH THEM | Mar 29 14:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS | Mar 29 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't let them do anything to my car in years | Mar 29 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | what scares me is so many people do | Mar 29 14:04 |
| DaemonFC | did you know a car will make it about 2-3 miles without oil before the engine seizes up? | Mar 29 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | How do I know? The stores I worked at had to buy a few engines | Mar 29 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | cause the guy in TLE didn't put the drain plug back on before putting the oil in | Mar 29 14:05 |
| DaemonFC | TLE has high turnover, they make about $8.50 an hour and work there just long enough to go get a job at a competitor making more like $10.50 an hour | Mar 29 14:07 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] fossdevconf 23-24 October 2010 at Pune http://events.linkedin.com/FOSSDevConf/pub/278424 Website will be updated soon ! #fossdevconf | Mar 29 14:07 | |
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| thenixedreport | Btw, somebody told me about how they were told by people at the local college not to put Wal-Mart on their resue | Mar 29 14:08 |
| thenixedreport | *resume | Mar 29 14:08 |
| thenixedreport | Or use them as a reference. | Mar 29 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | Diablo-D3: The last time I used them for anything was a new set of tires that the guy put the wrong sized weights in | Mar 29 14:08 |
| DaemonFC | got up to about 50 mph and kachunk kachunk kachunk...... | Mar 29 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | so I drive back....pissed, and they told me I'd have to wait 3 hours before they fixed it | Mar 29 14:09 |
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| DaemonFC | and so I called the district manager and chewed ass, they couldn't get my car in fast enough | Mar 29 14:09 |
| DaemonFC | "Here, lets bleed 3 more hours out of your day fixing something WE fucked up" | Mar 29 14:10 |
| *MinceR wishes asus chose a wifi card for eee pc-s that can actually do something beyond listing the ESSIDs | Mar 29 14:11 | |
| DaemonFC | so thanks to them, I didn't get underway that day until about 45 minutes late and had to haul ass to get where I was going | Mar 29 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | made it was about 5 minutes to spare before the entire group left without me | Mar 29 14:11 |
| DaemonFC | *with | Mar 29 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | don't go to Walmart TLE when you need to be on time somewhere else that day or are not prepared to live with the fact that saving $50 may damned well cost you your life | Mar 29 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | thenixedreport: HR just gives whoever calls for the reference an 800 number | Mar 29 14:13 |
| DaemonFC | and the person they talk to there can only tell them the date you started, the date you left, and how much you made when you were hired and when you left | Mar 29 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | they won't discuss why you left, even if you were fired | Mar 29 14:14 |
| DaemonFC | thenixedreport: another neat thing is that you can call any store on the planet by dialing 1-700-701-store number | Mar 29 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Mar 29 14:15 |
| DaemonFC | so like 1-700-701-2311 gets you Huntington, Indiana | Mar 29 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | so like 1-700-701-1665 would get you Muncie north | Mar 29 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | so like 1-700-701-1325 gets you Columbia City | Mar 29 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | ;) | Mar 29 14:16 |
| DaemonFC | thenixedreport"And they changed the paging code from #96 to #961" | Mar 29 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | so, wanna know something cool? | Mar 29 14:17 |
| thenixedreport | Go for it. | Mar 29 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | you can probably call in and ask the person that answer to connect you to #961 | Mar 29 14:17 |
| thenixedreport | Cripes! | Mar 29 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | then you can tell the customers what you think of Walmart until they can figure out how to cut you off | Mar 29 14:17 |
| DaemonFC | you might have a while | Mar 29 14:18 |
| MinceR | :D | Mar 29 14:18 |
| thenixedreport | Idk. | Mar 29 14:18 |
| thenixedreport | The phone operators during the day aren't that stupid. | Mar 29 14:18 |
| thenixedreport | lol | Mar 29 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | the people they hire in are stupid, they probably don't even know that's the intercom | Mar 29 14:18 |
| DaemonFC | they just hit the page button | Mar 29 14:19 |
| DaemonFC | thenixedreport: They have an auto answering system at the store here | Mar 29 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | you can connect yourself to the intercom | Mar 29 14:20 |
| DaemonFC | thenixedreport: The interesting thing is that the self-checkouts use a scale, right? | Mar 29 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | so you print out some sticky labels at home with the UPC for the generic store brand stuff | Mar 29 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | stick them on the brand name stuff | Mar 29 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | you mess up their inventory system and get some cheap groceries too :P | Mar 29 14:21 |
| DaemonFC | the generics and the name brands weigh the same, so it won't call the cashier over | Mar 29 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | I've caused them some major hell since I've left | Mar 29 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | trust me | Mar 29 14:26 |
| DaemonFC | not like that, but I know their system :) | Mar 29 14:27 |
| DaemonFC | thenixedreport: So what do you think of the far-right Christian Identity cult that was raided this morning? :) | Mar 29 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | They're not worried about health care, Jesus is coming back...apparently | Mar 29 14:29 |
| DaemonFC | it never fails that some random guy says "This is when Jesus is coming back", so they all sell their stuff and tie up loose ends and wait, and wait, and wait | Mar 29 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | and oh shit, he didn't come back | Mar 29 14:30 |
| DaemonFC | would you look at that? | Mar 29 14:30 |
| MinceR | apparently upgrading the driver to the backported version fixed wifi on my eee pc | Mar 29 14:35 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] Anti-ACTA poster on 4chan - http://bit.ly/aa0lKZ widening the anti-#ACTA front #4chan | Mar 29 15:04 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_the_mad_hatter] RE: @paidContent Hum, another disaster in the making. Unless the Spectator can offer far better content than th… http://tinyurl.com/y92tftz | Mar 29 15:14 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Misleading PR Campaign From #Microsoft About “Open Source” http://ur1.ca/sbm1 #freesoftware #iso #novell | Mar 29 15:36 | |
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| balrog | schestowitz: heard about Sony dropping Linux/OtherOS support from the PS3? | Mar 29 15:43 |
| balrog | I see a lawsuit coming | Mar 29 15:43 |
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| schestowitz | balrog: did people counterfeit with it? | Mar 29 15:47 |
| Diablo-D3 | balrog: a lawsuit? no | Mar 29 15:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | the PS3 slims cant run linux because its missing stuff in the firmware for it | Mar 29 15:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a hardware change | Mar 29 15:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | its also not advertised to run linux either | Mar 29 15:48 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: with the next patch non-slim PS3s cease to be able to do so | Mar 29 15:48 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: good. | Mar 29 15:48 |
| MinceR | 134613 < MinceR> http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/ | Mar 29 15:49 |
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| Diablo-D3 | linux on PS3 doesnt work right | Mar 29 15:49 |
| balrog | schestowitz: nope, at least not yet | Mar 29 15:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you dont like it, buy a tiny atom box... it'll run linux faster. | Mar 29 15:49 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: NO | Mar 29 15:49 |
| MinceR | screwing customers is "good" in your book? | Mar 29 15:49 |
| balrog | they're releasing a *software update* that removes OtherOS/Linux from OLD PS3's | Mar 29 15:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: they bought a sony. | Mar 29 15:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats their problem | Mar 29 15:49 |
| MinceR | indeed | Mar 29 15:49 |
| balrog | so yes, a lawsuit is likely | Mar 29 15:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | if they want to run linux, they should buy a machine _JUST FOR IT_ | Mar 29 15:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | balrog: unlikely | Mar 29 15:49 |
| balrog | OtherOS was an advertised feature | Mar 29 15:49 |
| Diablo-D3 | no one buys a PS3 for linux | Mar 29 15:49 |
| MinceR | um, there was some add-on for the PS3 specifically for the running of linux | Mar 29 15:50 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: where can I get a Cell-based computer to develop on? | Mar 29 15:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | balrog: quite a few places | Mar 29 15:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | in fact, you can buy a machine that has _actual Cells_ | Mar 29 15:50 |
| balrog | Cell workstations are WAY overpriced | Mar 29 15:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | PS3 doesnt even use a Cell | Mar 29 15:50 |
| MinceR | that's new | Mar 29 15:50 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: don't spread FUD | Mar 29 15:50 |
| MinceR | have any more such "insights" to share with us? | Mar 29 15:50 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a cut down Cell that retains the 8 SPUs, but has a single PPC core that is extremely slow | Mar 29 15:50 |
| MinceR | so it's a cell | Mar 29 15:51 |
| balrog | but it's still good for development for the Cell architecture | Mar 29 15:51 |
| balrog | do you *need* full power if you're writing code? I think not | Mar 29 15:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | it may be "3ghz", but they butchered the cache controller, removed Altivec, and its no longer out of order execution | Mar 29 15:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | it has the speed of a 500mhz G3. | Mar 29 15:51 |
| Diablo-D3 | the dual threading feature is also designed wrong | Mar 29 15:51 |
| balrog | anyway, the fact is that this was an advertised feature and now they're dropping it | Mar 29 15:51 |
| balrog | it still is an advertised feature: http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/index.html | Mar 29 15:52 |
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| balrog | doesn't say anywhere they're removing it from the PS3 fat, on that page | Mar 29 15:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only way to get performance out of the PS3 on the PPC core is to use Sony's compiler, which cant compile Linux. | Mar 29 15:52 |
| MinceR | hm, i think the add-on i thought i remembered was for the PS2, the PS3 supported linux out of the box | Mar 29 15:52 |
| balrog | MinceR: yes, exactly | Mar 29 15:52 |
| MinceR | balrog: the post i linked does say they're removing it from "fat" PS3s | Mar 29 15:52 |
| balrog | firmware 1.60 added Linux support | Mar 29 15:52 |
| balrog | MinceR: yes, that was my point | Mar 29 15:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | A _real_ Cell has two actual real PPC 970FX cores. | Mar 29 15:52 |
| Diablo-D3 | so no, if you're doing Cell development on a PS3, you're not really doing Cell development at all | Mar 29 15:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | you're wasting time and money | Mar 29 15:53 |
| balrog | but they're still advertising it as having Linux support somewhere on their site | Mar 29 15:53 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: Cell architecture is Cell architecture | Mar 29 15:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | balrog: yes, and the PS3 doesnt have it | Mar 29 15:53 |
| balrog | I don't need a quad-core CPU to write multithreaded apps for that architecture | Mar 29 15:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | its like saying a 486 is a Core 2 because they're both x86. | Mar 29 15:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | balrog: wrong. | Mar 29 15:53 |
| MinceR | what other PPCs beside Cells have SPUs? | Mar 29 15:53 |
| Diablo-D3 | the SPUs are just vector processors | Mar 29 15:54 |
| MinceR | i thought they were what differentiated a Cell from a regular PPC | Mar 29 15:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | they cant run code on their own | Mar 29 15:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: no | Mar 29 15:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | they have POWERS with the SPUs now too | Mar 29 15:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | er, POWERs | Mar 29 15:54 |
| balrog | still, very expensive | Mar 29 15:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you can also buy them with no PPC in the chip at all | Mar 29 15:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | stand alone SPUs | Mar 29 15:54 |
| Diablo-D3 | balrog: ps3s arent cheap | Mar 29 15:55 |
| balrog | cheaper than standalone Cells | Mar 29 15:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | not really | Mar 29 15:55 |
| balrog | and they also play games | Mar 29 15:55 |
| MinceR | especially now that they do less for the same money :> | Mar 29 15:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | I get about four tines the total performance out of a single socket real Cell workstation, and they cost twice as much | Mar 29 15:55 |
| balrog | MinceR: not just that | Mar 29 15:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Im not limited to single socket either | Mar 29 15:55 |
| balrog | they're removing previously-advertised functionality | Mar 29 15:55 |
| Diablo-D3 | I can get 2U boxes that have four Cells | Mar 29 15:55 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: that's all besides the point | Mar 29 15:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | thats 8 "G5" cores (970FX), with full functionality | Mar 29 15:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | and 32 SPU cores | Mar 29 15:56 |
| balrog | point is, Sony is removing an *advertised* feature | Mar 29 15:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | and guess what? they're actually _enabled!_ | Mar 29 15:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | the PS3 turnes off two | Mar 29 15:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | one for yield at the manufacturer, one is taken by the OS hypervisor | Mar 29 15:56 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: if someone bought a PS3 for that advertised feature they're removing now, will you give them such a box? or will sony do the same? | Mar 29 15:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you wanna bitch about advertising, why dont you bitch about Sony lying about the PS3 | Mar 29 15:56 |
| Diablo-D3 | its not a fucking Cell | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | and it never will be | Mar 29 15:57 |
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| MinceR | that's we're doing right now | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | its hacked up technology based on the Cell | Mar 29 15:57 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: it may not fit your definition of "Cell" | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | where were you 5 years ago? | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a little late now | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | so stfu | Mar 29 15:57 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: you stfu | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | if you bought a PS3, suffer | Mar 29 15:57 |
| MinceR | 5 years ago the PS3 could run gnu/linux | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | next time buy from a company that has real Linux support | Mar 29 15:57 |
| balrog | the point is that they're removing advertised functinality | Mar 29 15:57 |
| MinceR | i didn't buy any consoles | Mar 29 15:57 |
| balrog | functionality * | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | Vote with your dollars. | Mar 29 15:57 |
| balrog | probably because of geohot's hypervisor attack | Mar 29 15:57 |
| Diablo-D3 | Dont like Sony? Dont do business with them. | Mar 29 15:58 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: get a clue. the affected customers have done so _already_ and they don't have any time machines. | Mar 29 15:58 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning people of the Internet, how we doing today? | Mar 29 15:58 | |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: then they've learned their lesson, havent they? | Mar 29 15:58 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll sue sony to make sony learn their lesson | Mar 29 15:58 |
| Diablo-D3 | People need to learn Sony shovels shit | Mar 29 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: pssh | Mar 29 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | that wont make Sony learn | Mar 29 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | that'll just make the PS4 cost more | Mar 29 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Sony will never ship another Linux product again | Mar 29 15:59 |
| MinceR | the PS4 will then compete with other consoles at a higher price | Mar 29 15:59 |
| MinceR | that's still a loss to sony | Mar 29 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | Want to hurt Sony now? Get rid of anything with the Sony name on it in your house | Mar 29 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | sell it on ebay, throw it out | Mar 29 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | And never buy from them again | Mar 29 15:59 |
| MinceR | how is that going to hurt them? | Mar 29 15:59 |
| Diablo-D3 | every used PS3 sold on ebay is a lost sale. | Mar 29 16:00 |
| MinceR | will they be forced to give the money back or something? | Mar 29 16:00 |
| MinceR | only if someone else would buy from sony | Mar 29 16:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | People buy from Sony every day | Mar 29 16:00 |
| balrog | MinceR: they give you the choice not to update, but then you lose Playstation Network access | Mar 29 16:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | people who dont care about "Linux" | Mar 29 16:00 |
| MinceR | balrog: i know | Mar 29 16:00 |
| balrog | so either way, you lose functionality | Mar 29 16:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | Hate Sony? Damage their bottom line./ | Mar 29 16:00 |
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| Diablo-D3 | Suing doesnt do shit | Mar 29 16:00 |
| Diablo-D3 | and you know it | Mar 29 16:01 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: what do you think helped sell the PS3 when it was $599 ? | Mar 29 16:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | Quit wasting this channel's time with garbage. | Mar 29 16:01 |
| balrog | (and all the other consoles were $250-$400) | Mar 29 16:01 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: guess what winning a court case against them does to their bottom line | Mar 29 16:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | balrog: nothing. Everyone I know own Wiis or 360s. | Mar 29 16:01 |
| MinceR | it isn't difficult to guess | Mar 29 16:01 |
| MinceR | 165005 < Diablo-D3> Quit wasting this channel's time with garbage. | Mar 29 16:01 |
| MinceR | take your own advice. | Mar 29 16:01 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: everyone I know who owns 360s has had multiple RROD failures. | Mar 29 16:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: Suing doesnt do shit if they settle out of court, and every PS3 owner gets a check for 50 cents in the mail. | Mar 29 16:01 |
| MinceR | funny, xboxes suck shit too | Mar 29 16:01 |
| Diablo-D3 | balrog: its also why I dont buy Microsoft. | Mar 29 16:01 |
| MinceR | 360 or not | Mar 29 16:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | but thats a different issue | Mar 29 16:02 |
| MinceR | Diablo-D3: guess who will pay those 50 cents per PS3 | Mar 29 16:02 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] E-learning Modules Tutorials Guidelines - How and Why the e-learning Contents #elearning #education #ict http://post.ly/WLcg | Mar 29 16:02 | |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: current PS3 owners | Mar 29 16:02 |
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| Diablo-D3 | Suing just harms consumers. | Mar 29 16:02 |
| MinceR | yeah, i'm sure they'll agree to that settlement | Mar 29 16:02 |
| Diablo-D3 | If you want to run a company out of business, dont buy from them. | Mar 29 16:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | Tell everyone you know not to buy from them. | Mar 29 16:03 |
| balrog | but people want games | Mar 29 16:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | If you don't want to do that, fuck off. | Mar 29 16:03 |
| balrog | exclusives | Mar 29 16:03 |
| Diablo-D3 | I've been trying to boycott Sony for eyars | Mar 29 16:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | its a little late for you fuckers to jump on the bandwaggon because your little shit OS got snubbed | Mar 29 16:04 |
| MinceR | trying? | Mar 29 16:04 |
| MinceR | you can't even pull that off? | Mar 29 16:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | Yes, trying. Just because I dont buy from Sony doesnt mean no one else is either. | Mar 29 16:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | And guess what? I _have_ cost Sony money. | Mar 29 16:04 |
| MinceR | call the waaaahmbulance, not everyone does what you tell them to | Mar 29 16:04 |
| Diablo-D3 | I've convinced people to buy products from other manufacturers. | Mar 29 16:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | Sony will fuck you on warranties, they will fuck you on price, you can get the same parts or even better parts in a different box from a different company. | Mar 29 16:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | "Oh look, a Sony TV!" | Mar 29 16:05 |
| Diablo-D3 | That Sony TV uses a Sharp or Samsung panel, the build quality of the TV is shit, and its more expensive than a comparable Sharp model (if its high end) or a Samsung model (if its low end) | Mar 29 16:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | That Sony DVD or Bluray player? Its shit compared to Oppo's shit. | Mar 29 16:06 |
| Diablo-D3 | That Sony e-reader? Go buy a fucking Kindle. | Mar 29 16:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | That Sony computer or laptop? It'll fall apart before an HP or Dell would, and it cost you more. | Mar 29 16:07 |
| MinceR | lol swindle | Mar 29 16:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | hey, Sony e-readers have DRM too | Mar 29 16:07 |
| Diablo-D3 | at least with Kindle you can actually buy shit for them | Mar 29 16:08 |
| MinceR | are hps as shitty as dells then? | Mar 29 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: depends which ones | Mar 29 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | generally HP consumer anything is as bad as compaq, which they bought out. | Mar 29 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | HP enterprise stuff, ie, anything that rack mounts, is fine. | Mar 29 16:08 |
| MinceR | how bad was compaq? | Mar 29 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | compaq was horrid | Mar 29 16:08 |
| MinceR | i haven't heard of many laptops that rack mount :> | Mar 29 16:08 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: yup | Mar 29 16:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | I avoid HP like the plague, generally | Mar 29 16:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | but anything, _anything_ Sony does | Mar 29 16:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | someone else does better and cheaper | Mar 29 16:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | game consoles? All the good PS3 titles aren't exclusive | Mar 29 16:09 |
| MinceR | http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l00me1BJXw1qa4w2fo1_500.png | Mar 29 16:09 |
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| Diablo-D3 | TVs? Sharp, Samsung | Mar 29 16:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | anything home media outside of that? about a dozen companies can say they're better | Mar 29 16:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | computers? HP and Dell, and they're both shit | Mar 29 16:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | _anything_ | Mar 29 16:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | and someone else can come up and say they're doing it better and cheaper | Mar 29 16:10 |
| MinceR | headphones? | Mar 29 16:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | sony headphones are _shit_ | Mar 29 16:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | I put a $1000 DJ headset on my head one day | Mar 29 16:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | it was fucking _shit_ | Mar 29 16:10 |
| Diablo-D3 | my $200 Sennheisers beat it | Mar 29 16:11 |
| MinceR | well, i've used a sennheiser that was worse my sony :> | Mar 29 16:11 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] To all hacker and developers "May God give you some more time, May GOD give give 4 hour in day and 20 hour in night" ;) #Geek #hacker #nurd | Mar 29 16:11 | |
| MinceR | but there's probably a great difference of price there | Mar 29 16:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | I have an HD280 Pro | Mar 29 16:11 |
| Diablo-D3 | best headphones Ive ever used | Mar 29 16:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | they have headphones more expensive than this model too | Mar 29 16:12 |
| MinceR | i'm looking at AKG headphones now, but i think this one will hold for a while | Mar 29 16:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: generally, almost all audiophiles will say Sony headphones are shit no matter how much they cost | Mar 29 16:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | its almost universal | Mar 29 16:12 |
| Diablo-D3 | the only ones that dont are Sony fanboys | Mar 29 16:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | and Im not sure how someone even becomes a Sony fanboy | Mar 29 16:14 |
| Diablo-D3 | it must take years of self loathing and molestation by a Catholic priest | Mar 29 16:14 |
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| MinceR | the problem seems to be how much companies lie on their spec sheets :> | Mar 29 16:15 |
| Diablo-D3 | the real problem is spec sheets dont mean shit | Mar 29 16:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | if a pair of headphones sound bad, they sound bad | Mar 29 16:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are no specs generally for that. | Mar 29 16:16 |
| MinceR | but they sound bad because of bad characteristics and things like that | Mar 29 16:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | like, Ive listen to two totally different headphones | Mar 29 16:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | both had generally the same specs | Mar 29 16:16 |
| Diablo-D3 | both were closed, both were made of comparable materials, both had flat response across the board | Mar 29 16:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | both were in the same price range | Mar 29 16:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | they both performed well, but they sounded different. | Mar 29 16:17 |
| Diablo-D3 | there are no numbers for the human factor. | Mar 29 16:17 |
| MinceR | what of harmonic distortion? | Mar 29 16:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | extremely low | Mar 29 16:18 |
| MinceR | also, the human factor can make it subjective | Mar 29 16:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | they were both very expensive, MinceR | Mar 29 16:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | and I would have been happy to have either | Mar 29 16:18 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: theres no line in a spec that states how in your face headphones sound | Mar 29 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | or how big the apparent soundstage sounds | Mar 29 16:19 |
| MinceR | i don't even know what those things depend on | Mar 29 16:19 |
| Diablo-D3 | neither do I | Mar 29 16:19 |
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| Diablo-D3 | but they're very real | Mar 29 16:19 |
| MinceR | and i'm not sure if i can even detect them | Mar 29 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | but when almost every audiophile says "Sony sucks dick" | Mar 29 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | its probably true | Mar 29 16:20 |
| Omar87 | Hi all. | Mar 29 16:20 |
| MinceR | or it could be a meme | Mar 29 16:20 |
| MinceR | hay Omar87 | Mar 29 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | MinceR: I dunno, I wasnt too impressed with their shit | Mar 29 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | I mean like | Mar 29 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | I use a Canon DSLR | Mar 29 16:20 |
| Diablo-D3 | but I dont go slander Nikon over it | Mar 29 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | I could have a Thinkpad infront of me, but I dont go say Apple sucks over it | Mar 29 16:21 |
| MinceR | some probably would do both | Mar 29 16:21 |
| MinceR | human behavior is often irrational :> | Mar 29 16:21 |
| Diablo-D3 | I own a Canon pro printer, but I dont say Epson pro gear sucks dick | Mar 29 16:22 |
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| schestowitz | I have a question. | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | RMS: | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | > Apple's challenge to HTC would generalise to almost any other | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | > distributor of Android. | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | > | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | > I expect that it would, but that's a different question. My question | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | > is not about who the victims will be, it's about which software is at | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | > issue. Is the purported infringement done inside Linux? In GNU | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | > programs? In Android? Also, is it in free code or proprietary code? | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Those who looked at the individual patents would know best (based on some assumptions because patents refer to ideas, not actual code) | Mar 29 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Has anyone looked carefully? | Mar 29 16:31 |
| schestowitz | Android is mostly Free software and multi-touch, for example, is a recently-added Linux feature (thus GPL). The patents sometimes address ways that these features are used. People whose analysis I read say that Chrome OS may be affected. It's a desktop operating system based on GNU and Linux. | Mar 29 16:31 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] RT @dantheman Don't forget folks if you have ideas for talks, activites or parties at #oggcamp add them to the wiki - http://ideas.oggca ... | Mar 29 16:57 | |
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| schestowitz | Former Microsoft employees and Mono boosters lobby Mac Asay. http://twitter.com/cjadamscollier/statuses/11252226672 They try to stir him up against me | Mar 29 17:00 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft and Its Patent Trolls Remain #1 Threat to #FreeSoftware http://ur1.ca/sbyh #swpat #apple | Mar 29 17:05 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Microsoft and Its Patent Trolls Remain #1 Threat to Free Software | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 110.51 KB | Mar 29 17:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] #OpenSSL is 1.0.0 today. Congratulations :) | Mar 29 17:07 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODEwNw | Mar 29 17:07 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1598278/youtube-crashes | Mar 29 17:41 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1598591/nvidia-finally-launches-fermi-cards | Mar 29 17:44 |
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| schestowitz | Nice design | Mar 29 17:44 |
| schestowitz | Sarko voodoo http://rawstory.com/2010/03/leftists-defeat-sarkozys-conservatives/ | Mar 29 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/afghanistan/article7060395.ece | Mar 29 17:46 |
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| schestowitz | http://rawstory.com/2010/03/wikileaks-release-video-civilians-journalists-murdered-airstrike/ | Mar 29 17:48 |
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| schestowitz | Anyone heard of http://gephi.org/ ? | Mar 29 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | Another reason why Digg is full of Apple boosters. http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2010/03/25/digg-iphone-app-launched-along-with-ipad-contest | Mar 29 17:57 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.cio.com/article/588275/Undergrads_Flock_to_Computer_Science_Programs?source=rss_news | Mar 29 18:02 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000230.jpg | Mar 29 18:04 |
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| schestowitz | Mac Asay: "Life would be so easy if it weren't for people." http://asay.blogspot.com/2010/03/people-problem.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Acos+%28AC%2FOS%29 | Mar 29 18:05 |
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| schestowitz | "but most people are only jerks some of the time. I know I am. (And you know I am, too.)" | Mar 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz | IOW, hypocrite | Mar 29 18:06 |
| cubezzz | Programmer type, generally anti-social | Mar 29 18:06 |
| schestowitz | Mac is a lawyer | Mar 29 18:08 |
| schestowitz | I think of them as anti-social too | Mar 29 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Those whom I've met anyway | Mar 29 18:08 |
| cubezzz | maybe worse than programmer | Mar 29 18:08 |
| schestowitz | Check out this tosh: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8579310.stm | Mar 29 18:09 |
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| cubezzz | I can't believe that Unix trial is trial by jury | Mar 29 18:10 |
| schestowitz | Maybe NOVL will be sold before the trial is complete | Mar 29 18:10 |
| cubezzz | not sure what the deal with Unix is these days | Mar 29 18:11 |
| cubezzz | for example, if I wanted to buy a Unix license what would be current? | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz | Chinese web users boycott Google http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8584985.stm | Mar 29 18:11 |
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| schestowitz | Brainwashed vs Google by their govt. | Mar 29 18:11 |
| schestowitz | cubezzz: would you not buy it with hardware? | Mar 29 18:12 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] At the BBC, Net blamed for death. http://ur1.ca/sc99 Like the British doctor who said Facebook is responsible for STDs. | Mar 29 18:12 | |
| schestowitz | Like AIX or HPUX (no more Sun) | Mar 29 18:12 |
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| cubezzz | well actually no, say I just wanted a license | Mar 29 18:12 |
| cubezzz | Like Mark WIlliams Unix, that's an ancient example | Mar 29 18:13 |
| cubezzz | I suppose Unix is becoming extinct | Mar 29 18:14 |
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| schestowitz | Jobs looks lame here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/techchron/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=60029 | Mar 29 18:25 |
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| schestowitz | cubezzz: /which/ UNIX? | Mar 29 18:26 |
| cubezzz | any :) | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Think of it as POSIX | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | Same stds moves to other platforms | Mar 29 18:26 |
| schestowitz | OS X is a form of UNIX | Mar 29 18:27 |
| schestowitz | With more blobs and junk on top of it | Mar 29 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Linux too | Mar 29 18:27 |
| schestowitz | But Linux comes with more GNU and good stuff | Mar 29 18:27 |
| schestowitz | Then there's Vista | Mar 29 18:27 |
| schestowitz | And the Vista7 thing | Mar 29 18:27 |
| cubezzz | Linux is the dominant 2nd gen Unix | Mar 29 18:27 |
| schestowitz | NT6.1 | Mar 29 18:27 |
| cubezzz | ok, Vista 7 isn't Unix :) | Mar 29 18:27 |
| Diablo-D3 | linux is not unix | Mar 29 18:27 |
| cubezzz | no way is it Unix | Mar 29 18:27 |
| MinceR | it's unix, unless you believe The Open Group | Mar 29 18:28 |
| MinceR | who are mismanaging the unix trademark | Mar 29 18:28 |
| schestowitz | Diablo-D3: it uses similar paradigm | Mar 29 18:28 |
| cubezzz | Unix was the main influence | Mar 29 18:28 |
| schestowitz | We know SCO owns UNIX ;-) | Mar 29 18:28 |
| schestowitz | And therefore it has ownership of all the 'stolen' code in Ubuntu | Mar 29 18:29 |
| schestowitz | We can sacrifice Ubuntu to SCO | Mar 29 18:29 |
| schestowitz | And ask them to leave Mandriva alone :-) | Mar 29 18:29 |
| MinceR | leave britney alone? | Mar 29 18:29 |
| schestowitz | Ew.... | Mar 29 18:29 |
| *Diablo-D3 punches MinceR in the nuts | Mar 29 18:29 | |
| schestowitz | Evokes image of that dudegal | Mar 29 18:29 |
| *MinceR kicks Diablo-D3 in the nuts | Mar 29 18:30 | |
| schestowitz | error(no nuts found); | Mar 29 18:30 |
| cubezzz | ok, guys, a little maturity please :) | Mar 29 18:30 |
| schestowitz | Send out the beavers to find some nuts | Mar 29 18:30 |
| cubezzz | I guess there's BSD for Unix | Mar 29 18:31 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: are you saying Diablo-D3 has no balls? | Mar 29 18:31 |
| cubezzz | so commercial Unix is probably near dead | Mar 29 18:31 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/22/pirates_of_the_caribbean/ | Mar 29 18:32 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: she hasn't | Mar 29 18:32 |
| schestowitz | :-p | Mar 29 18:32 |
| cubezzz | and not many are even using BSD | Mar 29 18:33 |
| Diablo-D3 | wtf? | Mar 29 18:33 |
| schestowitz | Yahoo does | Mar 29 18:33 |
| schestowitz | MSFT Sidekick | Mar 29 18:33 |
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| Omar87 | Hi all. | Mar 29 18:35 |
| schestowitz | This logo is so ugly. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/23/olympics_logo/ "Forget the Lisa Simpson BJ, this really sucks" | Mar 29 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: "While TurboHercules is asking the European regulators to compel IBM to sell its systems software to companies that want to run the emulator on x64 or Itanium iron instead of System z hardware from Big Blue, the odds that this will happen are very small. But not non-zero, and certainly worth a lot of money to TurboHercules if it prevails in court." | Mar 29 18:46 |
| schestowitz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/26/ibm_turbohercules_response/ | Mar 29 18:46 |
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| schestowitz | Not software patents | Mar 29 18:46 |
| MinceR | sounds a lot like the psystar case, doesn't it? | Mar 29 18:50 |
| balrog | schestowitz: heard about the PS3 OtherOS thing? It's all over slashdot and the other sites | Mar 29 18:50 |
| balrog | looks like bait-and-switch to me | Mar 29 18:50 |
| balrog | + false advertising | Mar 29 18:50 |
| schestowitz | http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/03/25/online.gaming.addiction/index.html | Mar 29 19:03 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: sorta | Mar 29 19:03 |
| schestowitz | http://www.itwire.com/science-news/health/37850-one-third-of-births-cesarean-in-us | Mar 29 19:12 |
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| schestowitz | I guess it's how healthy can encourage genes that make mortality at birth | Mar 29 19:12 |
| schestowitz | *heath | Mar 29 19:12 |
| schestowitz | *health | Mar 29 19:12 |
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| schestowitz | This is bizarre: http://www.survivalrealty.com/2010/03/kayenta-bunker.html | Mar 29 19:22 |
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| schestowitz | Ewwww http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Big-Batch-of-Kombucha/ | Mar 29 19:30 |
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| schestowitz | "The dog chewed two tires and the entire front bumper off of the car." " http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/26/dog-eats-police-car.html | Mar 29 19:34 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Came home with the sun still up. Crikey! And with pissing rain and no umbrella, of course. Mmm, coffee. | Mar 29 19:50 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I'm sure there must be some sort of dot.com business model where step 2 is "Violate privacy by blithering stupidity." | Mar 29 19:56 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good to see some topics filling up on http://is.gd/b5vYS of things for me to discuss in my weekly community videocast :-) #ubuntu | Mar 29 19:59 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.techworld.com.au/article/340855/ex-ibm_exec_heads_court_insider_trading_case?fp=2&fpid=1&rid=1 | Mar 29 20:00 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: have you contacted the Commission? | Mar 29 20:04 |
| MinceR | nope | Mar 29 20:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @migueldeicaza: RT @m5h: Way to go Apple, http://bit.ly/cmj2Hj ! :: this is absolutely fantastic, good for you Apple. Beck is a whackjob. | Mar 29 20:05 | |
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| schestowitz | So nobody can save Hungary from Hungry Zuck | Mar 29 20:07 |
| *schestowitz agrees with a retweet of Microsoft Icaza *shudders* | Mar 29 20:08 | |
| Diablo-D3 | wait | Mar 29 20:09 |
| Diablo-D3 | what | Mar 29 20:09 |
| -BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Apple boycotts Fox News because of #GlennBeck http://ur1.ca/scr5 | Mar 29 20:12 | |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Red-Hat-4Q2010-financials-and-JBoss-tools/ | Mar 29 20:18 |
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| schestowitz | Omar87: does Red Hat visit your country much? | Mar 29 20:18 |
| Omar87 | schestowitz, I dunno. | Mar 29 20:18 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/open-source-democracy | Mar 29 20:31 |
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| schestowitz | 62% - no | Mar 29 20:32 |
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| schestowitz | http://identi.ca/conversation/26502858#notice-26533765 "@schestowitz if "the net" is to blame, surely bbc.co.uk is an accomplice. they drag traffic here!" | Mar 29 20:37 |
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| Diablo-D3 | hey dumbshits | Mar 29 20:38 |
| Diablo-D3 | http://www.haxnetwork.net/2010/03/otheros-will-not-be-removed-from-phat-ps3s/ | Mar 29 20:38 |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: OtherOS will not be removed from phat PS3s | Hax Network .::. Size~: 25.78 KB | Mar 29 20:38 |
| cubezzz | I've gone off Sony | Mar 29 20:41 |
| cubezzz | not the best choice | Mar 29 20:41 |
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| sebsebseb | Hi | Mar 29 20:44 |
| cubezzz | Panasonic or Sharp is much better | Mar 29 20:44 |
| cubezzz | and video game only stuff is just silly | Mar 29 20:44 |
| balrog | Diablo-D3: that's an old report | Mar 29 20:44 |
| balrog | look at the data | Mar 29 20:44 |
| cubezzz | a dev kit for Sega Genesis was 10 Grand | Mar 29 20:44 |
| balrog | date * | Mar 29 20:45 |
| balrog | why do you think people are mad? because sony flipped | Mar 29 20:45 |
| balrog | first they say they'll support it, then less than a month later, they flip | Mar 29 20:45 |
| cubezzz | Sony used high failure parts in some of their DVD players | Mar 29 20:46 |
| balrog | MS used higher failure parts in the xbox-360 | Mar 29 20:46 |
| cubezzz | exactly why I don't buy these "only do one thing" type of devices | Mar 29 20:47 |
| schestowitz | What a waste | Mar 29 20:48 |
| cubezzz | and buying an xbox is 100% not in the cards :) | Mar 29 20:48 |
| schestowitz | You can't buy xbox | Mar 29 20:48 |
| schestowitz | You rent it | Mar 29 20:48 |
| balrog | well, that is somewhat true | Mar 29 20:48 |
| balrog | with the whole banning | Mar 29 20:48 |
| schestowitz | You can't even use your own peripherals in it and they suspend your machine remotely | Mar 29 20:49 |
| cubezzz | I doubt you could make me hate xbox more than I already do | Mar 29 20:49 |
| schestowitz | replace "bo" with x in xbox | Mar 29 20:49 |
| schestowitz | Hardcoe POS | Mar 29 20:49 |
| schestowitz | *re | Mar 29 20:49 |
| schestowitz | 54% failure rate | Mar 29 20:50 |
| schestowitz | daemonfc had like 5 or 6 | Mar 29 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Gave up and got a wii | Mar 29 20:50 |
| cubezzz | I can't remember a Sega Genesis ever failing | Mar 29 20:50 |
| cubezzz | it was a tank | Mar 29 20:50 |
| balrog | the Sega CD units failed a lot though | Mar 29 20:51 |
| cubezzz | yeah anything with mechanical parts will fail | Mar 29 20:51 |
| cubezzz | I've got a wall of bad CDRoms here | Mar 29 20:52 |
| schestowitz | THis is embarrassing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gguyRedf5L4 | Mar 29 20:52 |
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| schestowitz | It's like watching Ballmer selling win1.0 | Mar 29 20:53 |
| schestowitz | But this one is new | Mar 29 20:53 |
| cubezzz | I can't recall any business using Windows 1.0 | Mar 29 20:53 |
| schestowitz | Another new one tagged "Novell" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD66AyGGq9Q | Mar 29 20:54 |
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| schestowitz | Not to bad. | Mar 29 20:54 |
| schestowitz | *too | Mar 29 20:54 |
| cubezzz | the thing is hardware eventually dies but the manufacturers don't really build repairable devices | Mar 29 20:55 |
| cubezzz | "just buy a new one" | Mar 29 20:55 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] OK, I'll probably resume posting news properly later this week. Been too busy recently... | Mar 29 20:57 | |
| cubezzz | now they go one step further, devices which are difficult to reprogram | Mar 29 20:58 |
| cubezzz | bic lighter design | Mar 29 20:58 |
| *WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulf | Mar 29 21:01 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9D9f_ySvkA | Mar 29 21:03 |
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| schestowitz | Do you know a good site for many oggs? | Mar 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | Interesting presentation here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKp_EG4xyu4 | Mar 29 21:12 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] anti-vaxxers really are dangerous fuckwits http://www.healthday.com/Article.asp?AID=637218 | Mar 29 21:12 | |
| schestowitz | Bass virtuoso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buVmIG5YnZ4 | Mar 29 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | http://www.archive.org/mediatypes-browse.php?mediatype=movies | Mar 29 21:17 |
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| schestowitz | http://ia301543.us.archive.org/2/items/till_the_clouds_roll_by/till_the_clouds_roll_by.ogv?till_the_clouds_roll_by/till_the_clouds_roll_by.ogv | Mar 29 21:22 |
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| schestowitz | Full movie | Mar 29 21:22 |
| schestowitz | Out of copyrights?? | Mar 29 21:22 |
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| MinceR | http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l01ru6Ofcp1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg | Mar 29 21:25 |
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| Ziomatrix | Ok | Mar 29 21:25 |
| Ziomatrix | Sony has gone too far in its "fight against piracy" http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/comment-page-2/#comments | Mar 29 21:25 |
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| Ziomatrix | Rootkits and other passive additions are one thing but removing a feature that was central to a core userbase of PS3 owners for purchasing the console for the sake of boosting shares is outright defamitory | Mar 29 21:27 |
| Ziomatrix | I think Sony is in line for a class action lawsuit across all nations that should hold citizen's rights pertaining to fair trade and customer protection dear | Mar 29 21:27 |
| balrog | Ziomatrix: I don't get it | Mar 29 21:29 |
| balrog | piracy is STILL nonexistent | Mar 29 21:29 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: well some say SCE got scared of developers starting to crack through the hypervisor and fully enabling the GPU on Other OS. | Mar 29 21:30 |
| balrog | but why? | Mar 29 21:30 |
| balrog | what's wrong with GPU access? | Mar 29 21:30 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: but I just consider is a way of saying they're "cracking down on piracy" to boost stock shares | Mar 29 21:30 |
| balrog | anyway I'm sure there will be a lawsuit | Mar 29 21:30 |
| balrog | false advertising + bait and switch, at the least | Mar 29 21:31 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: They're afraid of developers then circumventing their licensing scheme | Mar 29 21:31 |
| balrog | for GPU access? | Mar 29 21:31 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: as someone else pointed out they already violated Australian fair trade practices: http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/Act1.nsf/framelodgmentattachments/0BE9DD8D264F2C1ECA256F7100778802 | Mar 29 21:31 |
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| balrog | you mean developers that can't buy an expensive devkit and just want to write homebrew games? | Mar 29 21:31 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: I'm sure there is something on the books in the US, UK and other European countries for this | Mar 29 21:31 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: the marketing angle that Sony claims to tout for the PS3 is that they "lose money" on the hardware but recoup it with game and acsessory sales which feed their royalties | Mar 29 21:32 |
| balrog | Ziomatrix: I'm quite sure about that | Mar 29 21:33 |
| balrog | they heavily advertised OtherOS support | Mar 29 21:33 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: but the fact of the matter is anyone who has the least bit of commmon sense wouldn't buy that BS as if they actually lost money on the console shareholders and others wouldn't have it. What Sony just means is they don't make enough on the PS3 hardware itself to account for other expenses such as marketing and ect. | Mar 29 21:34 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: some folks say because the patch is slated to be release April 1st, the removing Other OS support for all consoles is an April Fools joke | Mar 29 21:34 |
| balrog | that may be true, but sony is liable for misleading claims | Mar 29 21:34 |
| balrog | Ziomatrix: maybe it is a very well orchestrated test | Mar 29 21:34 |
| balrog | maybe Sony wants to see what kind of reaction the threat of removing OtherOS will provoke | Mar 29 21:35 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: if it is then they should ought to be sued for duress | Mar 29 21:35 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: seriously I don't want this to set a precident for international corporations to violate subjects of nations who should be under soveriegn law to protect them from this BS | Mar 29 21:36 |
| balrog | yes | Mar 29 21:36 |
| balrog | also it's very misleading | Mar 29 21:36 |
| balrog | they lied a month ago, when they said that OtherOS wasn't going away | Mar 29 21:36 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: yep http://www.ps3-hacks.com/2010/03/01/otheros-will-not-be-removed-from-non-slim-ps3-models/ | Mar 29 21:37 |
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| balrog | yea | Mar 29 21:37 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: hopefully, maybe hopefully it is just a misunderstanding between different parts of the company. Perhaps one side of the company got one message to remove the OS (which I hope is the marketting half and whoever manages PR), while the developers and other core parts responsible for making and distributing the patch didn't. | Mar 29 21:38 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: but if that is the case it is still a major SNAFU for Sony | Mar 29 21:38 |
| balrog | possible | Mar 29 21:38 |
| balrog | though idk | Mar 29 21:38 |
| balrog | by now someone should have stepped up | Mar 29 21:38 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: they got at least 2 more days | Mar 29 21:39 |
| balrog | hah, geohot may write a CFW | Mar 29 21:40 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: This is not a problem that is issolated to Sony either as Apple, Amazon and others have done the same | Mar 29 21:40 |
| balrog | http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/03/dont-update.html | Mar 29 21:40 |
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| balrog | Ziomatrix: Apple has NOT advertised a major feature and removed it later | Mar 29 21:40 |
| balrog | blocking jailbreak isn't something that Apple advertises | Mar 29 21:40 |
| balrog | well, jailbreak isn't * | Mar 29 21:40 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: good, because honestly I don't give a #^&* about the warranty anymore | Mar 29 21:40 |
| balrog | blocking it doesn't matter, jailbreaking the iphone is already not approved | Mar 29 21:41 |
| balrog | meh, just restore | Mar 29 21:41 |
| balrog | they can't tell the difference | Mar 29 21:41 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: true | Mar 29 21:41 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: I just hate how Sony is developing on making the PS3 a capable gaming console and Blu-Ray player while removing the core of what makes it a good piece of hardware for everyone in the first place while being very shady about it | Mar 29 21:42 |
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| balrog | yes | Mar 29 21:43 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: they make great hardware, but they have screwed it over in order to protect their media. I honesty wish Sony never bought BMG | Mar 29 21:43 |
| Ziomatrix | or Universal | Mar 29 21:43 |
| balrog | yea | Mar 29 21:43 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: I do want to start a website with Paypal to raise funds for funding consumer protection lawsuits around the globe against them if this goes through | Mar 29 21:44 |
| balrog | that's up to you :) | Mar 29 21:45 |
| balrog | I don't have a PS3, and I don't have much cash as it is | Mar 29 21:45 |
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| Ziomatrix | balrog: call www.sueforconsumerprotection.org or something and gather legal input for raising class action lawsuites against Sony everywhere the PS3 is sold and anything that descends from Common or Civil Law is practiced | Mar 29 21:46 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: good because I feel pretty rotten for owning one now, I was looking forward to using the Move to. But if it means compromising my rights as a customer then I can't go through with it | Mar 29 21:47 |
| balrog | Move to? | Mar 29 21:48 |
| balrog | just don't update | Mar 29 21:48 |
| balrog | at least for now | Mar 29 21:49 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: what I'm also wondering is if they're removing Other OS but keeping the Default Startup option needed to boot from the GameOS to Linux and back | Mar 29 21:49 |
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| balrog | what do you mean? | Mar 29 21:49 |
| balrog | they said they're wiping out Linux partitions so back them up before the update | Mar 29 21:49 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: but as indicated by the intial March 1st post that seems unlikely. I mean that it removes the ability to install another OS, but for those that already have a partition it keeps the option open to boot to it | Mar 29 21:50 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: sadly, thats what I read | Mar 29 21:50 |
| balrog | that's what the recent post says | Mar 29 21:51 |
| balrog | so they're big liars | Mar 29 21:51 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: however it states that they won't be able to "access the data" which is kind of contrived language that can indicate the partition could still be there but be inaccessable. | Mar 29 21:51 |
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| balrog | perhaps | Mar 29 21:51 |
| balrog | idk what's up with this | Mar 29 21:51 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: either way it means you won't be able to boot Linux again as it stands, unless I maybe use the Bootloader from an SD card or Memorystick | Mar 29 21:52 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: they may remove all code for booting and running the hypervisor in an "OtherOS" environment as well | Mar 29 21:52 |
| balrog | possibly | Mar 29 21:52 |
| balrog | though geohot may fix this up | Mar 29 21:53 |
| balrog | hopefully they don't start banning consoles that use modified firmware | Mar 29 21:53 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: I wouldn't be surprised if they do, Microsoft did | Mar 29 21:53 |
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| balrog | that would generate even more bad PR | Mar 29 21:53 |
| Ziomatrix | balrog: anyway I got to go for Passover now, it seems quite fitting that I'm attending an event that concerns a story about people escaping exploitation | Mar 29 21:55 |
| balrog | yea, later :) | Mar 29 21:55 |
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| hexx | hey | Mar 29 21:57 |
| hexx | have your tried ubuntu netbook remix? it ships with tomboy and fspot and mono dependency by default | Mar 29 21:58 |
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| hexx | now, this is very far fetched, as there is no proof, but Im guessing there must have been some sort of deal between ms and dell and then dell and canonical... so canonical might have had a deal with ms with dell as a proxy. so officially they denounced novell while doing the same thing behind the scenes. | Mar 29 21:59 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll do the same deal openly | Mar 29 22:01 |
| hexx | it's all speculation. but i dont see any reasonable explanation to their position towards mono... and how they are essensially bundling it. | Mar 29 22:01 |
| hexx | because canonical wants to sign deal with netbook manufacturers. but since they have mono... there should be a deal similar to novell signed at some point between the final distributor and ms | Mar 29 22:01 |
| hexx | no hardware distributor would be dumb enough to cross ms distributing their patented stuff knowingly. | Mar 29 22:03 |
| balrog | hexx: well if MS sues, there goes mono | Mar 29 22:03 |
| balrog | since it's not entrenched deeply, it will be ripped out | Mar 29 22:03 |
| hexx | but they dont have to sue | Mar 29 22:03 |
| hexx | no wendor wants to be first to be sued | Mar 29 22:04 |
| hexx | they know they have to pay to use the technology, they have lawers and stuff... | Mar 29 22:05 |
| hexx | so they are pushed to sign a deal with ms to distribute linux. | Mar 29 22:05 |
| hexx | this is essensially what inlcusion of mono does. | Mar 29 22:05 |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Yay, #fedora 12 used to suspend so well on this laptop, not any longer... which fscking updated borked it? :| Now it's panic everytime :| | Mar 29 22:05 | |
| hexx | anyway... just ranting. | Mar 29 22:05 |
| hexx | check out the tomboy in ubuntu netbook remix. its among a very small selection of programs, and francly seems very strange, given its controversial status | Mar 29 22:06 |
| sebsebseb | I just read about a death, wel one that will happen soon, so sad jono and everyone else | Mar 29 22:07 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC and so on | Mar 29 22:07 |
| MinceR | hm? | Mar 29 22:07 |
| sebsebseb | yeah RIP Ubuntu 8.10 http://blog.internetnews.com/skerner/2010/03/ubuntu-810-intrepid-dies-on-ap.html the last turely great Ubuntu release, except for how, the ethernet woudn't just work on the other computer, worked fine in 8.04 and 9.04 | Mar 29 22:08 |
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| sebsebseb | and it works fine in 9.10 | Mar 29 22:08 |
| MinceR | oh. | Mar 29 22:08 |
| MinceR | i never liked intrepid | Mar 29 22:08 |
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| MinceR | i've found intrepid and jaunty to be highly flaky, in part due to no kde3 and immature kde4 | Mar 29 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I thought it was one that would be great for most computer users, well untill I found out that the ethernet woudn't just work on other computer | Mar 29 22:08 |
| sebsebseb | ethernet has to just work | Mar 29 22:09 |
| sebsebseb | if it doesn't that's a major issue | Mar 29 22:09 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I am doing Lucid Beta 1 in a vm again | Mar 29 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | my other vm I had of Lucid messed up, and I was going to download the Beta 1 ISO anyway and make a new one | Mar 29 22:10 |
| sebsebseb | then my computer went a bit hrm last night / this morning. and I end up turning it off on the button, when the vm is downloading updates | Mar 29 22:11 |
| sebsebseb | which I thought would mess it up, if it was still doing it. and so I turn the computer back on and load up my vm. and yep plymouth error | Mar 29 22:11 |
| sebsebseb | my other vm of Lucid I meant, the one I was using before doing Beta 1 ISO, I have done a few Lucid vm's already | Mar 29 22:12 |
| jono | sebsebseb, a death? | Mar 29 22:24 |
| sebsebseb | jono: yeah Ubuntu 8.10 see above | Mar 29 22:25 |
| jono | ahhh yes | Mar 29 22:25 |
| sebsebseb | jono: it's sad, I really liked that release, except for how ethernet woudn't just work on other computer | Mar 29 22:25 |
| jono | :) | Mar 29 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | jono: and then of course I wanted Ext4 when Jaunty came out with it optionalley, yes not perfectly stable, since the kernel or whatever, but it really did speed up boot up. Oh and having text mode as well :) | Mar 29 22:26 |
| sebsebseb | and I tested Ext4 in development when Jaunty was. | Mar 29 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | jono: oh yeah and 9.04 is the start of all those Canonical Gnome changes, which I still don't like that much over all. | Mar 29 22:27 |
| sebsebseb | jono: Still got someone that I helped quite a lot on 8.10, who isn't that technical, but I think she will like 10.04 quite a bit more, since she likes Facebook and the colour purple. | Mar 29 22:30 |
| balrog | I'm updating to 10.04 here due to bugs in Xorg in 9.10, among other things | Mar 29 22:31 |
| sebsebseb | balrog: on Linux Today the article I gave a little while ago, there was a comment | Mar 29 22:31 |
| sebsebseb | balrog: one of those wait three months before it's stable comments | Mar 29 22:32 |
| sebsebseb | I was like blah de blah when reading that | Mar 29 22:32 |
| balrog | mehh | Mar 29 22:32 |
| sebsebseb | altough a lot of people have this idea that the LTS's become even more stable as time goes by, however as far as I know they only get security updates, just like the other releases | Mar 29 22:32 |
| balrog | I use debian testing on my ARM box | Mar 29 22:32 |
| sebsebseb | jono: That's right isn't it LTS's only get security updates as well? So this idea wait three months after the final with a LTS and things are more stable, is probably nonsense really? | Mar 29 22:33 |
| sebsebseb | balrog: I am glad I have been doing Ubuntu testing only in vm's this time round | Mar 29 22:34 |
| balrog | I haven't had any issues | Mar 29 22:35 |
| sebsebseb | balrog: since things have messed up on me already in vm's, and it didn't take much | Mar 29 22:35 |
| balrog | this computer has been running 9.10-poposed for a while | Mar 29 22:35 |
| balrog | most issues are with the nvidia driver | Mar 29 22:35 |
| sebsebseb | balrog: or plymouth possibily, such as the issue I had last time | Mar 29 22:36 |
| sebsebseb | I did a clean install of Beta 1 into vm last night or this morning, uhmm I already mentioned this here a little while ago, oh well a repeate isn't a big deal. some computer issues so I turned the computer off on the button. thought it was probably still installing updates into vm. then I turn comput back on load up vm. and pymouth error. so that was the end of that vm | Mar 29 22:37 |
| balrog | that didn't give me any issues... | Mar 29 22:37 |
| sebsebseb | balrog: well I had stopped an update | Mar 29 22:37 |
| sebsebseb | when it was getting updates | Mar 29 22:38 |
| balrog | ahh | Mar 29 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | useually doing that is bad | Mar 29 22:38 |
| balrog | downloading or installing? | Mar 29 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | installing | Mar 29 22:38 |
| balrog | I usually update through aptitude | Mar 29 22:38 |
| balrog | and I've done that | Mar 29 22:38 |
| balrog | plenty of times on my debian bo | Mar 29 22:38 |
| balrog | box * | Mar 29 22:38 |
| balrog | that thing is so solid | Mar 29 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | then I got themes and such | Mar 29 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | removed Canonical Gnome edits and what not | Mar 29 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | with another vm | Mar 29 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | and Gnome ended up going weird on me in a new account | Mar 29 22:38 |
| sebsebseb | and then later also in the account with sudo | Mar 29 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | themes yeah only from the repo | Mar 29 22:39 |
| balrog | you're doing weird stuff | Mar 29 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | balrog: no not at all | Mar 29 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | any programs I had installed into these vm's, were from the repo | Mar 29 22:39 |
| sebsebseb | balrog: and it's also not weird to remove things from the panel in Gnome | Mar 29 22:40 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Daily summary of GNU/Linux and FOSS news can be found at http://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/29/bait-and-switch/ | Mar 29 22:53 | |
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| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: Links 29/3/2010: Sonys Bait and Switch | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 141.39 KB | Mar 29 22:53 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Finally got around to changing my provider. O2 has #failed for the last time.. article soon on the worst isp ive ever used. | Mar 29 23:02 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Thankfully I'm still net present due to tmobile and my HTC...been busy today watching Wrestlemania, all 4 hours of it...great stuff!! #wwe | Mar 29 23:09 | |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @jdac the internet does give access to a big market, but failure to protect tuna, polar bears, coral is *real* news. #shameontheBBC | Mar 29 23:29 | |
| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] If You Distrust #Mono , Then You Are Called a “Microsoft Hater”, “Paranoid”, and “Conspiracy Theorist” http://ur1.ca/sdy6 | Mar 29 23:37 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: If You Distrust Mono, Then You Are Called a “Microsoft Hater”, “Paranoid”, and “Conspiracy Theorist” | Boycott Novell .::. Size~: 103.65 KB | Mar 29 23:37 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz seen the one about the other OS option being removed from PS3 | Mar 29 23:38 |
| oiaohm | This should get interesting lot of the attackers are now looking to moving on to taking the firmware out directly. | Mar 29 23:38 |
| oiaohm | Instead of working inside the firmware. | Mar 29 23:38 |
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| oiaohm | http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=1120 Hmm is orcale trying to kill solarias | Mar 29 23:48 |
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| -BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #UK slipping further down slope to #surveillance state: wants to read your mail without you present http://bit.ly/baySF1 #stasi #nsa | Mar 29 23:51 | |
| phIRCe-BNcom | Title: UK government wants to secretly read your postal mail - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 56.49 KB | Mar 29 23:51 |
| MinceR | understandable | Mar 29 23:51 |
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