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IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: April 12th, 2010

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enthymemeMel Gibson is a Catholic Bishop?Apr 12 00:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Filesharing Malware..what advise given? Install Linux (in comments) a positive sign of the growing popularity? http://tinyurl.com/ya93sgkApr 12 00:09
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schestowitzhttp://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/04/id-rather-discuss-patent-issues-than.htmlApr 12 00:43
TechrightsBotTitle: FOSS Patents: I'd rather discuss patent issues than LinkedIn lists .::. Size~: 72.98 KBApr 12 00:43
schestowitzFlorian intimidated enough to respondApr 12 00:43
schestowitzHe doesn't prove me wrong eitherApr 12 00:44
schestowitzhe dances around the issuesApr 12 00:44
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/28116410#notice-28169492 "@stumbles yeah, some people won't switch without their games"Apr 12 00:45
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Just installed Flash in Firefox for Windows under Wine to play Bejeweled 2. http://popcap.com/games/free/bejeweled2 I blame @arkadyrose.Apr 12 00:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Uses the Press to Promote Cheaper Labour for #Microsoft; Other “Independent” Studies http://ur1.ca/ulxhApr 12 00:57
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TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft Uses the Press to Promote Cheaper Labour for Microsoft; Other “Independent” Studies (Propaganda) Funded by Microsoft | Techrights .::. Size~: 95.87 KBApr 12 00:57
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #Adobe made wrong bet in'96..&in 2010 has noone to blame but themselves #Flash RT @johnderosa @thebrianmanley @gridinoc http://idek.net/1J0fApr 12 01:02
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schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2010041107355659#c843776Apr 12 01:11
schestowitz"Apr 12 01:11
TechrightsBotTitle: Groklaw - Digging a Little Deeper into TurboHercules/IBM -  OpenMainframe.org and Microsoft .::. Size~: 125.29 KBApr 12 01:11
schestowitzHi, Florian,Apr 12 01:11
schestowitzI have just read your response. Therein, you don't deny what I wrote (instead you attack straw men, e.g. I didn't argue that you had not known Erika Mann beforehand). In fact, you dance around the issue just as TH danced around the question about its relationship with Microsoft (which was later made very obvious). Be sure to follow the links and see my explanation of why Microsoft funds CCIA and Black in a very special way; don't Apr 12 01:11
schestowitzconveniently omit details, please.Apr 12 01:11
schestowitzSo, Florian, are you in contact with TH and CCIA? You sneakily fail to address this point. Have you been in touch with Carina Oliveri?Apr 12 01:11
schestowitzHave a good day.Apr 12 01:11
schestowitz"Apr 12 01:11
schestowitz"@schestowitz that's EXACTLY  the sort of thing python needs for kids (and other beginners) - a nice gtk interface, probably better than idle" http://identi.ca/conversation/28115617#notice-28172291Apr 12 01:11
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Jack Defends Microsoft's Other Attack Dogs (Friend Helps a Friend) http://ur1.ca/ulzuApr 12 01:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Microsoft Jack Defends Microsofts Other Attack Dogs (Friend Helps a Friend) | Techrights .::. Size~: 87.07 KBApr 12 01:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] George Orwell: A nice cup of tea. http://www.booksatoz.com/witsend/tea/orwell.htmApr 12 01:33
TechrightsBotTitle: A Nice Cup of Tea by George Orwell .::. Size~: 7.1 KBApr 12 01:33
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] Remember Cuil, worst search engine of last decade? They have a robot encyclopedia: http://cpedia.com/ . THIS IS NOT A JOKE.Apr 12 01:41
TechrightsBotTitle: Cpedia .::. Size~: 4.79 KBApr 12 01:41
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DaemonFChttp://www.kidk.com/news/local/90435554.htmlApr 12 01:50
TechrightsBotTitle: Congressman Walt Minnick speaks of possible prisoner swap for captive Idaho soldier | KIDK CBS 3 - News, Weather and Sports - Idaho Falls - Pocatello - Blackfoot, ID- Idaho Falls, Pocatello, Blackfoot - Idaho| Local & Regional .::. Size~: 37.67 KBApr 12 01:50
schestowitz"@schestowitz http://rmsgnulinux.org v. 1.2 (not 1.3) it's 150-190mb, has kde, uses linux-libre fully free kernel. will be on gnu.org i hope" http://identi.ca/conversation/28122627#notice-28175982Apr 12 01:50
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NZheretichttp://news.slashdot.org/story/10/04/11/2256251/Comcast-Disables-VCR-Scheduling-In-New-GuideApr 12 01:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot News Story | Comcast Disables VCR Scheduling In New Guide .::. Size~: 138.7 KBApr 12 01:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] http://www.cpedia.com/search?q=newsTechnica WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVENApr 12 01:51
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 12 01:51
NZhereticThe best campaign that techrights could do would be to inform a larger audience of what is actually under threat. "In the future your going to be able to do less things than you used to do with today's technology ... unless you stand up, speak out and make use of those rights."Apr 12 01:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] http://www.cpedia.com/wiki?hit=0&q=newsTechnica&source=1 WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN [citation needed]Apr 12 01:52
TechrightsBotTitle: Error processing the URL: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error .::. Size~: 0 KBApr 12 01:52
ender2070defectivebydesign campaignApr 12 01:55
NZhereticThe current trend in technology with Microsoft,Apple and Comcast : Lock in customers, Lock out competitors. We need the public to be informed how they are NOW losing there techRIGHTS.Apr 12 01:55
schestowitzDaemonFC: what about it?Apr 12 01:56
NZheretics/there/their/Apr 12 01:56
schestowitzNZheretic: I saw your messages earlierApr 12 01:56
schestowitzBelatedApr 12 01:56
schestowitzTwo domains would be hard to runApr 12 01:56
schestowitzAlso to sliceApr 12 01:56
NZhereticI still think that having two sites would be beneficial to the message as a whole.Apr 12 01:57
schestowitzIt's a tricky oneApr 12 01:58
schestowitzVery few sites do thatApr 12 01:58
schestowitzUnless they make a statementApr 12 01:58
schestowitzReg has ChannelRegApr 12 01:58
ender2070having a brand new site will have one problem: readershipApr 12 01:58
schestowitzWe get like hundreds of thousands RSS requestsApr 12 01:59
schestowitzThat's where readership comes from. Full RSS feed, downloaded to people's PCApr 12 01:59
schestowitzBut the issue is also one of integrationApr 12 02:00
schestowitzI'm still trying to figure out (with tessier ) how to migrate the domains safely with 301Apr 12 02:00
schestowitzI think tessier has a break with the family (he tweeted it)Apr 12 02:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[davidgerard] I've got it! http://cpedia.com is "I'm Feeling Unlucky"Apr 12 02:01
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Office Eroded Even Further by Software Patents, #Microsoft Office 2010 is Losing http://ur1.ca/um3y #swpat #patentsApr 12 02:04
TechrightsBotTitle: Office Eroded Even Further by Software Patents, Microsoft Office 2010 is Losing | Techrights .::. Size~: 94.86 KBApr 12 02:04
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/28132480#notice-28177385 "@schestowitz i wish mint were as free. wait no, then it would be trisquel, perhaps"Apr 12 02:05
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schestowitzHeh. I meant "mint" as in perfectApr 12 02:05
_goblinhi Roy...Apr 12 02:06
_goblinwas impressed with netrunnerApr 12 02:06
_goblinneed a name change though, it implies its limited when infact its not.Apr 12 02:06
schestowitzIt also conflicts with other thingsApr 12 02:07
schestowitzI searched the Web for the nameApr 12 02:07
schestowitzCheck out for yourselfApr 12 02:07
_goblinyeah Netrunner sounds like a made for netbooks distro...Apr 12 02:09
_goblinand Im not sure about Albedo either.Apr 12 02:09
_goblinhow about.....Apr 12 02:10
_goblinsince its got a blue theme.....Apr 12 02:11
_goblin"PepperMINT"Apr 12 02:11
NZheretichttp://radar.oreilly.com/2010/04/the-wellington-declaration.htmlApr 12 02:11
TechrightsBotTitle: The Wellington Declaration - O'Reilly Radar .::. Size~: 25.51 KBApr 12 02:11
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/glynmoody/statuses/11940164590 "from @WillTovey's Twitter bio: "Mathematician and pirate" - what the world needs: more mathematical pirates/piratical mathematicians"Apr 12 02:13
TechrightsBotTitle: Twitter / Glyn Moody: from @WillTovey's Twitter  ... .::. Size~: 10.81 KBApr 12 02:13
schestowitz_goblin: he also has that domainApr 12 02:13
schestowitzI told him about the reviewsApr 12 02:13
schestowitzI suppose Tux Machine will notice soonApr 12 02:13
schestowitzShe reads OpenBytesApr 12 02:13
_goblinI won't email distrowatch, last time I tried to get a distro mentioned I was spoken to like I had just told him that his wife was having it away with Steve Ballmer Apr 12 02:15
schestowitzhttp://ivacy.com/Apr 12 02:15
TechrightsBotTitle: Ivacy VPN service, secure VPN, buy VPN, Bypass proxy .::. Size~: 16.05 KBApr 12 02:15
schestowitzI'm usually the only person in the #distrowatch irc channelApr 12 02:16
_goblinI think the rude email came from someone else.....I believe it was the creator of puppy linux who took great offence at me championing Puppy Arcade.....Apr 12 02:17
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schestowitzhttp://www.fabathome.org/Apr 12 02:17
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_goblindidn't seem to like "someone else" championing a distro to distrowatch.Apr 12 02:18
schestowitz"championing"...Apr 12 02:18
schestowitzWrestlemaniaApr 12 02:18
_goblinbe l33t.....its called WMApr 12 02:18
_goblinyou know if you start mentioning wrestling, I'll go off into a rant about it.....I can clear your channel in about 5 mins with wrestling chat.Apr 12 02:19
schestowitzIt's not a problemApr 12 02:22
schestowitzOmar ain't hereApr 12 02:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @glynmoody Debt/GDP Worldmap: It’s Full of Debt! - http://bit.ly/bALGoo our financial malaise made painfully visible; depressingApr 12 02:22
TechrightsBotTitle:        Debt/GDP Worldmap: It’s Full of Debt!    .::. Size~: 18.91 KBApr 12 02:22
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_goblinschestowitz: Nice bloke that Omar....as it sebsebsebApr 12 02:27
_goblin*isApr 12 02:28
tessierschestowitz: Family left yesterday. I have some time to look at the 301 issue now./Apr 12 02:28
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tessierI'm still not quite sure I understand what we really need to do. We want every request to boycottnovell to issue a 301 over to techrights, correct?Apr 12 02:29
_goblinheres something to make you laugh......please don't use it yet though as i'm writing an article on it....Apr 12 02:29
_goblinquote "The Internet is unimaginably rich in information and resources. Unfortunately, some of the information people post is designed to cultivate hate or spread misinformation."Apr 12 02:30
_goblin....Apr 12 02:30
_goblinwhere is it from?Apr 12 02:30
_goblinhttp://www.microsoft.com/protect/parents/cyberethics/hate.aspxApr 12 02:30
TechrightsBotTitle:     Protect kids against hate and misinformation | Microsoft Security .::. Size~: 49.71 KBApr 12 02:30
_goblinit gets better, especially when put into context compared to Ballmers own words and the words and actions of the MS advocates....Apr 12 02:31
_goblinlike "vista is loved"Apr 12 02:31
_goblin"gift to the world"Apr 12 02:31
_goblin"you can't get quicker than a Quickfit fitter"Apr 12 02:32
_goblin....ok, maybe not the last one....Apr 12 02:32
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_goblinRight, Im off....Apr 12 02:34
_goblinquote for the night.....Apr 12 02:34
_goblin"The more you over tech the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain...."Apr 12 02:34
_goblinSmoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.Apr 12 02:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Watch the results of the poll here: http://www.counterpoint-online.org/copyright-2010-recreating-copyright-for-the-21st-century/ #debillApr 12 02:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Copyright 2010: Recreating Copyright for the 21st Century «  Counterpoint .::. Size~: 22.34 KBApr 12 02:44
schestowitzhey, tessierApr 12 02:45
schestowitzI got openrights.com registeredApr 12 02:45
schestowitzIt points to your nameserversApr 12 02:45
schestowitzBasically, it's supposed to be treated like boycottnovell.com, just redirect to the same URL that's requested but with openrights.orgApr 12 02:46
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tessierokApr 12 02:49
tessierI am trying out the 301 stuff. Site might be intermittant for the next few minutes if I mess something up...Apr 12 02:49
schestowitz:-)Apr 12 02:49
schestowitzThanks!Apr 12 02:49
schestowitzI don't know how you're doing all the DNS stuff, never did DNS beforeApr 12 02:50
tessierJust added techrights.com with same setup as techrights.orgApr 12 02:51
schestowitzCool :-)Apr 12 02:51
schestowitzIt gives "Apache 2 Test Page" at the momentApr 12 02:52
tessiertechrights.com should be giving the correct page now. And now my wife is insisting that I join her for dinner. I'll get back to the 301 stuff when I get back. I think I have a recipe that should work though.Apr 12 02:55
schestowitzOK :-)Apr 12 02:55
schestowitzThanksApr 12 02:55
schestowitzI'll stay aware for a while longerApr 12 02:55
schestowitz*awakeApr 12 02:55
DaemonFCBlind guy on a TV show I'm watching: "A guy from the census came by last week and I filled out everything... The encyclopedias came yesterday!" :PApr 12 03:05
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schestowitzhttp://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=2010041107355659&title=I+understand+...&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=843682#c843684Apr 12 03:09
TechrightsBotTitle: Groklaw - Digging for Truth .::. Size~: 29 KBApr 12 03:09
schestowitzjmaynard comes inApr 12 03:09
Eruaranhi schestowitzApr 12 03:10
schestowitzHiApr 12 03:20
EruaranHaving fun at work on WINDOWS at the moment ;)Apr 12 03:20
EruaranI installed the latest stable KDE on Windows releaseApr 12 03:20
EruaranIts like... a little oasis of sanityApr 12 03:21
schestowitzWhen KDE  meets confickerApr 12 03:21
schestowitzWikiLeaks posts video of 'US military killings' in Iraq http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8603938.stmApr 12 03:22
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EruaranI'm testing Kontact on WindowsApr 12 03:22
EruaranWe have customers that we may not be able to move away from Windows - but we can at least reduce their dependency on proprietary softwareApr 12 03:23
cubezzzbahApr 12 03:23
EruaranOne is a law firm that relys on LawPerfect, which integrates with Microsoft OfficeApr 12 03:24
EruaranWe don't have an alternative for them with thatApr 12 03:24
ender2070LyxApr 12 03:24
cubezzzrun it under wine maybe?Apr 12 03:24
EruaranMaybe it will run on Wine.. haven't tried yetApr 12 03:24
EruaranMS Office + plugins = always troubleApr 12 03:25
EruaranKontact is looking goodApr 12 03:25
EruaranMeans they can ditch MAPILab and maybe their Windows server... I'm not sure they're using it for anything else :PApr 12 03:26
EruaranWe need to test more though - critical environment - we have to be 100% confidentApr 12 03:27
EruaranIt will mean LawPerfect is pretty much the only thing left keeping them on WindowsApr 12 03:28
EruaranAnother problem is even if it runs on Wine - if they have any issues they can't get support from LawPerfect...Apr 12 03:28
ender2070LyxApr 12 03:30
schestowitzhttp://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/malcolm-mclaren-dies-aged-64-1939621.htmlApr 12 03:31
TechrightsBotTitle: Music mourns godfather of punk Malcolm McLaren -News, People - The Independent .::. Size~: 165.41 KBApr 12 03:31
schestowitzLyX ftwApr 12 03:31
schestowitzI installed latex2html some days agoApr 12 03:31
schestowitzIt does equations tooApr 12 03:31
schestowitzlyx2html is not as feature richApr 12 03:31
cubezzzfound the ECS docs, and a ISBN book with even more infoApr 12 03:32
cubezzzit is all documented :)Apr 12 03:32
schestowitzhttp://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/08/apple-to-developers.htmlApr 12 03:33
schestowitzNovell blockedApr 12 03:33
TechrightsBotTitle: Apple to developers: don't even think in Flash, bucko - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 188.5 KBApr 12 03:33
cubezzzit a lot of ways Microsoft and Apple are alikeApr 12 03:33
cubezzzit=inApr 12 03:33
schestowitzLet's redo the front page of the site till tessier comes backApr 12 03:33
schestowitzHeh. http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/08/looking-for-david-levine-in-venice-ca.html?Apr 12 03:35
TechrightsBotTitle: Looking for David Levine in Venice, CA - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 140.52 KBApr 12 03:35
schestowitzhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/7547678/Lebanese-Derren-Brown-wins-reprieve-from-beheading.htmlApr 12 03:37
TechrightsBotTitle: 'Lebanese Derren Brown' wins reprieve from beheading  - Telegraph .::. Size~: 52.14 KBApr 12 03:37
cubezzzprogramming docs, service manual, even schematicsApr 12 03:37
cubezzz"Confidential_Parts_Information" <- not sure what this is Apr 12 03:38
cubezzzfor PC10 :)Apr 12 03:40
cubezzzwell interesting though, I'll know what Commodore's markup wasApr 12 03:40
cubezzzlots of interesting stuff in hereApr 12 03:41
schestowitzWow. FSDaily has some real sticklers. "@schestowitz the two distros i use the most are rms and trisquel in that order. but i have been using gnewsense a lot again lately."http://identi.ca/conversation/28133601#notice-28181394Apr 12 03:42
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cubezzzrms?Apr 12 03:43
cubezzzthere is an rms distro? :)Apr 12 03:43
Eruaranhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFpcTGJwvZ0Apr 12 03:44
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- PIXELS by Patrick Jean & ONEMOREPROD .::. Size~: 59.84 KBApr 12 03:44
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EruaranGreat clip thatApr 12 03:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Dear Rub!con in Errol St, North #Melbourne. Auction Rooms is eating your lunch. Add interesting breakfasts to your menu. Steal their ideas:)Apr 12 03:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @jdub #Dawkins planning to arrest the #Pope? usual #Murdoch newspaper bullshit. Dawkins replies: http://is.gd/bp2vp <--good read+commentsApr 12 04:03
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NZheretichttp://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/development/power-backs-deletion-of-software-patentsApr 12 04:19
TechrightsBotTitle: Computerworld > Power backs deletion of software patents .::. Size~: 35.88 KBApr 12 04:19
NZhereticKeeping focus on positive outcomes sometimes works wonders.Apr 12 04:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Tosfm @ThePublicRecord #US #Torture school cut #Waterboarding due to physiological&psych damage to students http://bit.ly/b19PUL #ciaApr 12 04:23
TechrightsBotTitle:   Former DOJ Official Ignored Damage That Resulted From Waterboarding | The Public Record .::. Size~: 43.89 KBApr 12 04:23
schestowitzNZheretic: yeah, seen itApr 12 04:26
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DaemonFC"Oh yeah, Granddad's real tough on the handicapped, prolly gonna beat up some retarded kids next"Apr 12 04:49
*DaemonFC facepalmsApr 12 04:49
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DaemonFCThe exorcist arrives with a whip, a branding iron, a police baton, and a job application form to drive the evil spirits out of a black guyApr 12 05:05
DaemonFCthis show is so awesome and politically incorrect, I love itApr 12 05:05
ender2070lol what showApr 12 05:08
DaemonFCBoondocksApr 12 05:08
DaemonFC"several hours later, we had still made no progress"Apr 12 05:09
DaemonFCthe key was to agree with him that rap music sucksApr 12 05:09
DaemonFCThe exorcist: "Another nigger successfully beaten or exorcised, I'll send you my bill later"Apr 12 05:09
DaemonFC:DApr 12 05:09
DaemonFCender2070: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn6dDMfRmp8Apr 12 05:11
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Boondocks - Uncle Ruckus - The Exorcist .::. Size~: 71.42 KBApr 12 05:11
DaemonFC:DApr 12 05:11
sebsebsebDaemonFC: schestowitz http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/04/ubuntu-is-a-poor-standard-bear.htmlApr 12 05:12
TechrightsBotTitle: Ubuntu Is A Poor Standard Bearer For Linux - O'Reilly Broadcast .::. Size~: 205.36 KBApr 12 05:12
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1tuQhtKUa8&feature=relatedApr 12 05:22
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- how to perform an exorcism(beating) .::. Size~: 72.8 KBApr 12 05:22
*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulfApr 12 05:26
DaemonFCThat's interestingApr 12 05:32
DaemonFCthe Perverted Justice decoys tell the guy to bring something specific because it helps show intent when they show up with itApr 12 05:33
ender2070lol love that showApr 12 05:35
DaemonFCender2070: The fact that the guys who show up are pretty fucking stupid?Apr 12 05:36
DaemonFCindicates that the "decoys" aren't really that goodApr 12 05:36
DaemonFCthat's my guessApr 12 05:36
ender2070some of them got caught twiceApr 12 05:36
DaemonFCyeahApr 12 05:37
ender2070the sad part isApr 12 05:37
ender2070most of the cases get thrown out in courtApr 12 05:37
DaemonFCit would be so easy to flush them outApr 12 05:37
DaemonFCender2070: In Canada?Apr 12 05:37
ender2070noApr 12 05:37
ender2070the ones caught by that showApr 12 05:37
DaemonFCentrapment laws?Apr 12 05:37
ender2070perhapsApr 12 05:38
ender2070most of them got minor charges tooApr 12 05:39
ender2070caught on the little stuffApr 12 05:39
ender2070sending nude photos to a minorApr 12 05:39
ender2070etcApr 12 05:39
ender2070considering none of them actually molested anyoneApr 12 05:39
DaemonFCwell, you'd think they would fish in a state with laws friendly to entrapmentApr 12 05:39
DaemonFC:)Apr 12 05:39
ender2070nah they fished in a state that probably gave the tv producers tax creditsApr 12 05:40
*WireWulf hates the fact he likes empathyApr 12 05:40
DaemonFCahhh, makes good TV but the guy goes free?Apr 12 05:40
DaemonFCcoolApr 12 05:40
DaemonFCbeing embarrassed on national TV and getting fired from your job might be enough reallyApr 12 05:41
WireWulfsorry that was linux relatedApr 12 05:41
DaemonFCender2070: There was one guy that showed up there with his 5 year old sonApr 12 05:43
DaemonFCthe cops turned the kid over to CPSApr 12 05:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@ InsideAI Be the first to visit adobe.com to read about all the new #Illustrator #CS5 features //that horse has probably bolted, actuallyApr 12 05:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] can't fucking move without justifying everything to f***** members. sucks to be 40Apr 12 05:43
ender2070I remember that oneApr 12 05:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] or am i 4?Apr 12 05:44
ender2070fucking disgustingApr 12 05:45
DaemonFCturn the cameras off and break out the batonsApr 12 05:45
DaemonFCB-)Apr 12 05:45
ender2070that is one group of people who need to be sterilizedApr 12 05:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @anarchists Anti-anarchist witch-hunt in #Athens | libcom.org http://bit.ly/b4HaMX // they forget #fascism so quickly.. Costa Gavras "Z"Apr 12 05:45
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ender2070anti anarchist?Apr 12 05:46
ender2070keep a close eye on greece I sayApr 12 05:47
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9wEoS5MRcApr 12 05:47
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DaemonFCender2070: I'll be his 15 year old boyApr 12 05:48
DaemonFC:PApr 12 05:48
DaemonFClolApr 12 05:48
ender2070lolApr 12 05:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] holy crap thanks for the headsup why I left this fracking countryApr 12 05:48
DaemonFC"Average price for gas is $2.85 a gallon"Apr 12 05:49
DaemonFCjust in time for my electric bike B-)Apr 12 05:49
ender2070hhehApr 12 05:49
ender2070its going to get a lot worse for peopleApr 12 05:50
DaemonFCeach charge of each battery pack gets me nearly as far as a gallon of gas in my car that recently broke downApr 12 05:50
DaemonFCeach pack gets about 300 complete charge/discharge cycles according to the manufacturerApr 12 05:50
ender2070whats wrong with peddling btw?Apr 12 05:50
DaemonFCcloser to 500 according to most usersApr 12 05:50
DaemonFCso each battery can be considered about 500 gallons of gasApr 12 05:51
DaemonFC$129 / 500 = 26 cents per gallonApr 12 05:51
DaemonFCwere I using gasApr 12 05:51
ender2070what if you were using your legsApr 12 05:51
ender2070$0Apr 12 05:51
DaemonFCyeah, I'll pay 30-ish cents per charge to get 15 miles and be lazyApr 12 05:52
DaemonFC:)Apr 12 05:52
ender2070how are you gonna get rid of all that extra chloresteral your body makes?Apr 12 05:52
DaemonFC2 cents per mile :)Apr 12 05:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @Tosfm t r u t h o u t Ex Bush Official can Testify #Bush, #Cheney Knew #Gitmo Prisoners Innocent http://bit.ly/avuOOP cc @gwbprosecutionApr 12 05:52
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DaemonFCender2070: It doesn't cost anything to pedalApr 12 05:54
DaemonFCthe problem is endurance and speed Apr 12 05:54
DaemonFCwith both being a non-issue for that motor, cycling from town to town becomes possible :)Apr 12 05:55
DaemonFCif I go on a 30 mile trip or something, I'll pedal a few milesApr 12 05:56
DaemonFCmake sure the battery doesn't give out before I get thereApr 12 05:56
ender2070ahhApr 12 05:56
DaemonFCender2070: The major reason for the bike instead of the scooter is that there's nothing you can do with the scooter but hop off and walk itApr 12 05:57
DaemonFCif the battery runs downApr 12 05:57
ender2070thats trueApr 12 05:57
DaemonFCthey both cost the same, have the same range, use the same batteries, weigh about the sameApr 12 05:57
DaemonFCmight as well be able to pedal if the battery diesApr 12 05:57
DaemonFCwhat killed the electric car is that the great leaps in battery technology never happenedApr 12 05:58
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DaemonFCa bike weighs about 63 pounds or so with the motor and one battery, about 70 with two batteries mountedApr 12 05:59
DaemonFCthe car on the other hand weighs well over 2500 poundsApr 12 05:59
ender2070they had good enough batteries for the cityApr 12 05:59
DaemonFCasking a battery to move that weight and get useful mileage either won't happen, or the price will skyrocket to where nobody can afford the carApr 12 05:59
ender2070i think they killed it because it would've worked and people are going to have cars taken away from themApr 12 06:00
ender2070cant take vehicles away from people if they dont harm the planetApr 12 06:00
DaemonFCLithium Ion batteries do a good job at being twice the price and getting about 25% better rangeApr 12 06:00
DaemonFCfrom what I've seen on the bike versionsApr 12 06:00
DaemonFCyou'd be better off to toss in another lead acid battery packApr 12 06:01
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DaemonFCthe problem with lead acid batteries is that when they're dead, they're also dead weightApr 12 06:02
DaemonFCthey are heavyApr 12 06:02
DaemonFCthe bicycle becomes a tankApr 12 06:02
DaemonFCespecially with two of them plugged inApr 12 06:02
DaemonFCender2070: I propose that we terraform MarsApr 12 06:03
ender2070lolApr 12 06:03
DaemonFCthe reduced weight will be advantageous for mileage of electric vehicles :DApr 12 06:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Good basic identity protection mechanism on cell carrier site: only ask for first name in profile. Last name acts as 1 more auth for txnsApr 12 06:10
DaemonFCender2070:  You ever wonder what chatroom they lurk in? (The Catch A Predator people)Apr 12 06:42
DaemonFCthe screenshots look AOL-ishApr 12 06:43
MinceR"If it bleeds, we can kill it."Apr 12 06:49
ender2070lolApr 12 06:49
DaemonFCIf it doesn't bleed yet, we can **** it. -PredatorsApr 12 06:51
DaemonFC:PApr 12 06:51
DaemonFCMinceR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfGJACLOQEYApr 12 06:57
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MinceR:)Apr 12 07:02
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shreddarI think there needs be fewer but better named campaigns.Apr 12 07:08
shreddarA lot of the exiting ones seem to just be thrown out there.Apr 12 07:10
shreddarA lot of them are just hard to get.Apr 12 07:11
shreddar"Evil Toys"  "MAChinations" are example of bad campaign names that shouldn't have gone through.Apr 12 07:13
MinceRthey're alternative namesApr 12 07:13
MinceRalso, "Diablo's Blog" seems all right to you? :>Apr 12 07:13
shreddarThat's another one.Apr 12 07:14
shreddarLike I don't get it and actually read the site.Apr 12 07:15
shreddarImagine what it would be like for vistors.Apr 12 07:15
MinceRyou could probably suggest some ideas of your own. :>Apr 12 07:18
shreddarI trying to think of some right now.Apr 12 07:18
shreddarIt's harder than I thought.Apr 12 07:18
shreddarI got one Rotten Apples.Apr 12 07:19
shreddarMonopolysoftApr 12 07:20
MinceRi suggested Rotten Apple but it wasn't liked :)Apr 12 07:22
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MinceRmaybe it's taken.Apr 12 07:22
shreddarWhat? That's better then Fruit of Evil at least.Apr 12 07:22
Diablo-D3christApr 12 07:23
Diablo-D3are we still on this/Apr 12 07:23
MinceRi don't think christ is here.Apr 12 07:23
*Diablo-D3 smacks MinceR Apr 12 07:23
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*shreddar tries to poke at MinceR's eyes but is blocked by hand.Apr 12 07:26
DaemonFCleave it to Google to try and take me down 12 different streets instead of having me go an extra 1,000 feetApr 12 07:27
DaemonFC:)Apr 12 07:27
shreddarI've been screwed by Google Maps too but I can't blame them because they say it's just for planning and not really for directions.Apr 12 07:28
DaemonFCyou can manually edit mapsApr 12 07:29
DaemonFCwould be nice if they let you save them thoughApr 12 07:29
shreddarYou can alway print them.Apr 12 07:31
shreddarI usually just right em down.Apr 12 07:31
MinceRyou could probably save them, tooApr 12 07:31
MinceRto local filesApr 12 07:31
MinceRnot sure if saving to html works, but a screenshot certainly wouldApr 12 07:32
MinceRor printing to a pdf or a psApr 12 07:32
DaemonFChmmm, Medicare Part B pays for flu shotsApr 12 07:33
DaemonFCWhy don't they tell people to go get them from the health department?Apr 12 07:33
DaemonFCI noticed something interesting. Instead of mandating that all flu shots go to county health departments to be given at cost or free, the government lets lots of them go to private pharmacies who mark them up 20 or 30% and hit you with the full costApr 12 07:35
DaemonFC:DApr 12 07:35
DaemonFCif they had sent that third of the stockpile to the health departments, millions more people would be vaccinated against the H1N1Apr 12 07:35
DaemonFCI kind of see that as proof that the government wanted to scare people into buying something and had no genuine concern of a flu pandemicApr 12 07:36
ender2070flue shots are bad anywaysApr 12 07:39
shreddariFraudApr 12 07:48
DaemonFCender2070: One piece of good newsApr 12 07:51
DaemonFCthey sent an award letter for Medicare Part D subsidyApr 12 07:52
DaemonFCI'm still fighting them on Part BApr 12 07:52
Diablo-D3http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/fOrfnDDZwjY/Bloomberg-Reports-That-Palm-Is-Up-For-SaleApr 12 07:53
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Diablo-D3DaemonFC: D and A/B are seperate programsApr 12 07:53
Diablo-D3D is now run by major insurance companies because Bush stole Medicare's powersApr 12 07:53
shreddarWelll it's public now.Apr 12 07:54
DaemonFCDiablo-D3: A is free, B is $110 a monthApr 12 07:55
Diablo-D3DaemonFC: dependsApr 12 07:55
DaemonFCD would have been about $30 a monthApr 12 07:55
Diablo-D3many states cover B for youApr 12 07:55
shreddarIs Palm even worth buying at this point though?Apr 12 07:55
Diablo-D3because they're pissed at the government destroying their programsApr 12 07:55
Diablo-D3shreddar: yeahApr 12 07:55
DaemonFCDiablo-D3:  I'm fighting Indiana's FSSA officeApr 12 07:55
Diablo-D3shreddar: even if just for the patent portfolioApr 12 07:55
Diablo-D3DaemonFC: lol Indiana. Good luck.Apr 12 07:55
shreddarYeah I guess they must have some good patents.Apr 12 07:56
Diablo-D3the Palm brand itself is really oldApr 12 07:57
Diablo-D3so probably the branding itself is worth somethingApr 12 07:57
Diablo-D3theres still people who swear by PalmApr 12 07:57
Diablo-D3crazy people, but hey, people voted for Palin too.Apr 12 07:58
shreddarPalm used to be so great but now it' s hardly worth mentioning them.Apr 12 07:58
shreddarI hope who ever buy them makes good use of the brand again.Apr 12 07:59
DaemonFCDiablo-D3: Every time I sent in more paperwork, they send me more bullshitApr 12 07:59
DaemonFCI've fought them over Medicaid before and no matter how I appealed, they struck it downApr 12 07:59
DaemonFCthey INVENTED reasons to strike the claim downApr 12 07:59
DaemonFCI went to the Administrative Law Judge with a LAWYER and got shot downApr 12 08:00
*DaemonFC goes to find a Cadillac part D planApr 12 08:00
DaemonFC\they're all free, I may as well get the best oneApr 12 08:00
DaemonFC:DApr 12 08:00
schestowitztessier:ping?Apr 12 08:09
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Back in San Fran and heading home on a SuperShuttle driven by another one of their crack team of transportation professionals.Apr 12 08:24
ender2070I wonder if Icaza will still love apple off after being locked outApr 12 08:32
Diablo-D3hahahahApr 12 08:34
Diablo-D3manApr 12 08:34
Diablo-D3ender2070: I so fucking lol'd at that the other dayApr 12 08:34
EruaranheheheApr 12 08:34
Diablo-D3<steve jobs> c# is for fagsApr 12 08:35
Diablo-D3<miguel> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO </vader>Apr 12 08:35
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EruaranWhat's he going to do? Complain about Apple being anti-competitive?Apr 12 08:36
Diablo-D3lol that'd be epicApr 12 08:37
Diablo-D3<steve jobs> iHouse, bitch!Apr 12 08:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #omg If you're near Errol St North #Melbourne RUN do not walk to try the Spanish meatballs at the Hot Poppy Café. Great fresh juice bar too!Apr 12 08:37
ender2070i wonder of nat friedman is going to ask for his envolope w/ $1000 backApr 12 08:38
ender2070Icaza is waving the white flagApr 12 08:46
ender2070http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Apr-03.htmlApr 12 08:47
TechrightsBotTitle: The Right Spirit - Miguel de Icaza .::. Size~: 16.02 KBApr 12 08:47
ender2070giving up against proprietary, suggesting the four freedoms are suffering and that open source lost the fight over the last 15 yearsApr 12 08:47
ender2070"Although it is a noble goal, it has set people up for suffering by making the goal unachievable. It has been 15 years since the rise of the first large open source companies and by now we should know that our dream of a pure open source stack ruling the world is not going to happen any decade now."Apr 12 08:48
ender2070the word suffering linked to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Noble_TruthsApr 12 08:48
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ender2070he quotes Steve Jobs a lotApr 12 08:49
ender2070from when steve jobs gave up fighting microsoft in 1997Apr 12 08:49
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] Bye #Skype and your 40% #cpu craving.Apr 12 08:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] many #Mac devs ape #Apple's aesthetic. No, it doesn't look cool. It looks as if you don't have an original idea. http://www.mindnode.com/Apr 12 08:55
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] That said, my own site is horrible.Apr 12 08:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Blimey! Windows has never worked so well! http://jonathanscorner.com/emulator/ - A Windows 95 emu in your browser!Apr 12 09:00
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] [nautilus-script] Right Click - Print File http://post.ly/Zib0Apr 12 09:11
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_goblinHi allApr 12 09:18
_goblinschestowitz: My netrunner article has hit Tuxmachines.....290 hits in the last hour!Apr 12 09:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jerezim: ✖ STOP #ACTA! ✖ http://lqdn.fr/en/stop-acta (pls RT!)Apr 12 09:23
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ml2mst] LOL :-) RT: @_Goblin: Blimey! Windows has never worked so well! http://jonathanscorner.com/emulator/ - A Windows 95 emu in your browser!Apr 12 09:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Apparently I won the office Grand National sweepstake. Co-worker with the money is not in.. wonder if he's gone to Cube with the winnings!Apr 12 09:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Apparently I won the office Grand National sweepstake.Co-worker with the money is not in.Wonder if he's gone to Cuba with the winnings! #fbApr 12 09:39
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schestowitz_goblin: niceApr 12 09:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] A look at #Microsoft ’s fascinating strategy of embracing competition through deceptive maneuvers http://ur1.ca/unv9Apr 12 09:43
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_goblinI really hope Netrunner gets some momentum and support going.....great piece of work.Apr 12 09:44
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Hmm, twirssi had decided to only post to twitter, and not identica. Hopefully now fix0r3d.Apr 12 09:44
schestowitzBased on Mint, so..Apr 12 10:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Windows grows increasingly rusty and the consequences are serious flaws that pose a danger to national security http://ur1.ca/unxoApr 12 10:07
schestowitzUbuntu+more good stuff (sadly proprietary), minus bad stuff (Mono)Apr 12 10:08
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schestowitz"@schestowitz also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish" http://identi.ca/conversation/28167811#notice-28213328Apr 12 10:08
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schestowitzI reckon people catch up with Sunday's many postsApr 12 10:11
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[trmanco] You are independent in your thinking and are inclined to expre... More for Aquarius http://twittascope.com/?sign=11Apr 12 10:11
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schestowitz"galoppini: Ciao Roy, I answered you on my blog that I didn't take any position on IBMvsTurboHercules (yet). Asked OIN for feedback, though..."Apr 12 10:35
schestowitzBad wording from me was not intended. :-)Apr 12 10:35
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Check out Netrunner - Ubuntu without the Mono! http://tinyurl.com/yc92dnr #linux #foss #gnu #wine #novell #mono #ubuntu #windows #microsoftApr 12 10:40
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schestowitz"galoppini: I just wanted to tell you I made it clear through my blog, though. BTW, did you see my two twitter lists (Strong/Weak IBM Believers)? :)"Apr 12 10:42
schestowitzhttp://twitter.com/galoppini/strong-ibm-believers http://twitter.com/galoppini/weak-ibm-believersApr 12 10:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “The liar’s punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else.” ~George Bernard Shaw.Apr 12 11:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @jmcesteves: RT @jerezim RT @bitsoffreedom Breaking news! Live webcast of #ACTA negotiations available: http://is.gd/bponxApr 12 11:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft #email & volume licensing servers unreliable; outages making education+business users restless http://ur1.ca/uo8sApr 12 11:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@rjurney 'Lite' foods make people #fat-what FDA is for? //not just #sugar. artificial sweetnrs #fda approved(!!), #hfcs add to weight gainApr 12 11:22
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] The New Untouchables: Benedict, Bush, Dick, Kissinger... cc @gwbprosecutionApr 12 11:37
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How #Microsoft uses states all around the world to indoctrinate the young and prepare the young http://ur1.ca/uox4Apr 12 12:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] >@alykhansatchu Karzai [may] find himself victim of an "accident": a coup? http://bit.ly/bmneOe /official euphemism #iirc is "regime change"Apr 12 12:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] How the Gates Foundation Blocks #GNU #Linux and #FreeSoftware in National Libraries http://ur1.ca/up8eApr 12 13:53
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danyeah about the love-in between MS and the BBC ......Apr 12 13:56
danI've noticed that some BBC news reports show a computer monitor in the background .....Apr 12 13:57
dan... and Microsoft Office 2003/2007 is always open, with a blank Word document on it.Apr 12 13:58
oiaohmReally lot of people need to look at what a so called blank word document contains.Apr 12 14:00
danPoint is its subliminal advertising/product placment for MS.Apr 12 14:01
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oiaohmdan just wait for the fun day of a blue screen of death.  danApr 12 14:15
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ZiodotmatrixPalm and WebOS is done forApr 12 14:18
Ziodotmatrixwhoever aquires them will just do so for the patents and other IPs while they liquiate all other assets. It's like the downfall of Commodore all over again.Apr 12 14:19
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EruaranWhenever I think of Commodore's demise and its execs, the Model's song "Barbados" always pops into my head...Apr 12 14:31
EruaranSomething to do with sunny beaches and tax havens...Apr 12 14:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] In my view, education upto standard 12th should be shrink in 8 years, instead of 12. getting extra 4 year will be cool. more PhD more studyApr 12 14:37
schestowitzHey, danApr 12 14:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Just been listening to Space Force on BBC Radio 7. Very good actually. #radio #scifiApr 12 14:40
schestowitzPalm has cash reservesApr 12 14:41
schestowitzAbout half a billion, some VCApr 12 14:41
schestowitzdan: yes, I see what you mean. That's why I think Microsoft has those wallpapers and screensaver by default in XPApr 12 14:42
schestowitzRe: computer error kills only 21Apr 12 14:43
schestowitz> http://slashdot.org/submission/1213622/computer-error-kills-only-21?art_pos=1Apr 12 14:43
TechrightsBotTitle: Slashdot Submission | computer error kills only 21 .::. Size~: 44.99 KBApr 12 14:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] For free movies from creators who WANT to share their work, check out: http://vodo.net/ Really great torrent tracker! #free #moviesApr 12 14:50
TechrightsBotTitle: VODO: Indie film torrents, free to download and legal to share .::. Size~: 13.75 KBApr 12 14:50
ikoniaman that bots annoyingApr 12 14:50
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_goblinikonia: I think its usefulApr 12 14:57
_goblinikonia: draws your attention to tweets you might miss.Apr 12 14:57
_goblinikonia: its been going for quite some time.Apr 12 14:57
ikoniaor just spams the channel Apr 12 14:57
ikoniait's a toss of the coin I'm sure some people find it works for themApr 12 14:57
ikoniaif I wanted to see those tweets, I'd follow that user though (from my perspective) Apr 12 14:58
_goblinnot really since Roy selects which users tweets are echoed.Apr 12 14:58
ikoniabut then I'd follow those users.......Apr 12 14:58
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_goblinits not everyone....and since most of us are online friends its nice to keep up to date with their tweets whilst chatting here.....also it sometimes creates talking points.Apr 12 14:58
ikoniaI can appreciate that, but surly you all follow each other anywayApr 12 14:59
_goblinyes, but for me I don't have a twitter client running......and often I will miss tweets until after ive finished chatting here.Apr 12 14:59
schestowitzikonia: got an account in identica?Apr 12 14:59
schestowitzWe try to add those who askApr 12 14:59
ikoniaerrrrrrrrrrrr....I think I have, I don't use it thoughApr 12 15:00
ikoniabeen a whle I mean Apr 12 15:00
schestowitzSometimes we talk among ourselves in microblogsApr 12 15:00
_goblinikonia: also between certain users it tracks twitter conversations so it can be very interesting whilst here to watch the conversation play out.Apr 12 15:00
schestowitzThe bot only echoes tweets among members of the people who are in the listApr 12 15:00
schestowitzThe rest are omittedApr 12 15:01
ikoniaI can appreciate what you're trying to do, no problem with it, just commenting it was annoyingApr 12 15:01
ikoniathe point of twitter was you follow who you want to seeApr 12 15:01
schestowitzThis ideally removes some of the 'noise'Apr 12 15:01
schestowitzIn theory anywayApr 12 15:01
schestowitzYou can /IGNORE TechrightsBotApr 12 15:01
ikoniait's not a massive deal, it was just a commentApr 12 15:02
danHi all, was away awhile ....Apr 12 15:06
_goblinhelloApr 12 15:07
danHowdyApr 12 15:07
_goblindon't think we've met? you new or and oldie returning here?Apr 12 15:07
_goblin*anApr 12 15:08
danI'm a newbie Apr 12 15:08
_goblinah...hello and welcome!Apr 12 15:08
danan old newbie :)Apr 12 15:08
_goblinor a new oldbie?Apr 12 15:08
danmmmm... not sure???Apr 12 15:09
_goblinso you know whats coming next......Apr 12 15:09
_goblinwhat distro are you running?Apr 12 15:09
danIt didn't know that... is that the questiion on a first IRC date now? :DApr 12 15:10
_goblinI suppose.....Apr 12 15:10
_goblinits instead of "do you come here often"Apr 12 15:11
danI'm on Trisquel....Apr 12 15:11
dan... so I'm whiter, than white!Apr 12 15:11
_goblinah ha..Apr 12 15:11
_goblinmaybe I should bow?Apr 12 15:12
danYes deeply!Apr 12 15:12
_goblindone!Apr 12 15:12
danLolApr 12 15:12
_goblinWolvix here...Apr 12 15:12
_goblinselling out to proprietary drivers everytime.Apr 12 15:12
danWats tat? (Knows but whats to put manners on)Apr 12 15:13
danNo I've heard of Wolvix... on Distrowatch... :)Apr 12 15:14
_goblinso yours to derived from 9.10? I must admit despite the bad press, I was quite impressed with it....having said that if you want to be "l33t" you never go anywhere near an Ubuntu distro! ;)Apr 12 15:14
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Ziomatrixhello?Apr 12 15:15
_goblinhelloApr 12 15:15
Ziomatrix_goblin: so whats shaking?Apr 12 15:15
_goblinnothing, I hope.Apr 12 15:15
_goblinwhat are you suggesting ;)Apr 12 15:15
danwats l33t?Apr 12 15:15
_goblinleetApr 12 15:16
Ziomatrixumm.. :-/Apr 12 15:16
_goblinyou know the eliteApr 12 15:16
danwhich is...?Apr 12 15:16
_goblinsceneApr 12 15:16
_goblindan: yeah good pointApr 12 15:16
Ziomatrixbtw, is it just me or does this month seem like corporate aquisition season with RIM buying QNX and Palm putting themselves up for sale?Apr 12 15:16
_goblinI suppose......Apr 12 15:17
danOK leet is elite, like leading edge, OK thanks I get it (sloow....)Apr 12 15:17
_goblinalso it appears here in the UK the corps have purchased the government with the DEB.Apr 12 15:17
Ziomatrix_goblin: what do you think of the verbal fistycuffs going on between Adobe and Apple?Apr 12 15:17
ZiomatrixI mean sure both are not quite FOSS so its none of our concern for now, but what do you think? I mean Apple is supporting a wanked version of HTML5 with ACC and H.264 as choice embedded codecsApr 12 15:18
_goblindan: Apparently you have to make your computing life as difficult as possible to become l33t....you have to boycott all userfriendliness....its rumoured that there are some "l33t" running webservers with nothing more than homemade PCs made of cardboard and celotape.Apr 12 15:19
_goblinziomatrix: not my area.....I think Apple is making a mistake, although my area of "expertise" is more law related.Apr 12 15:19
dan_goblin: OK now I understand....Apr 12 15:20
Ziomatrix_goblin: fair enoughApr 12 15:21
danNo ceases to amaze me how people fall for the Apple marketing, again, and again.....Apr 12 15:22
Ziomatrixdan: they sure like those simple yet pretty white and silver packagingApr 12 15:22
Diablo-D3Ziomatrix: uhApr 12 15:22
Diablo-D3you do realizeApr 12 15:22
_goblinMS have been at it for years, although I think at least when Apple does it, it does it with a little more style and eloquenceApr 12 15:22
Diablo-D3html5 has no chosen codec, right?Apr 12 15:22
Ziomatrixdan: its also because Steve Jobs seems so charasmatic to manyApr 12 15:22
Diablo-D3h264+aac is just as valid, widespread, and generic as theora+vorbisApr 12 15:23
ZiomatrixDiablo-D3: I thought that most are siding with Theora, WC3 and Google areApr 12 15:23
danYeah, but isn't is also about been "better" than those pleb Windows people.Apr 12 15:23
_goblinI am seeing an increase in popularity of h264Apr 12 15:23
Diablo-D3Ziomatrix: most are _siding_, sureApr 12 15:23
_goblinif the numerous BT trackers are anything to go by.Apr 12 15:23
Ziomatrix_goblin: its because Apple is not considered a monopolyApr 12 15:23
Diablo-D3but html5 has no forced requirementApr 12 15:23
Diablo-D3your browser is rather fucked if you dont do theora+vorbisApr 12 15:24
Diablo-D3most html5 video sites wont work rightApr 12 15:24
Diablo-D3but theres no requirement or limit to what a browser can or cannot supportApr 12 15:24
ZiomatrixDiablo-D3: true, but like I said Apple is just re-enforcing their walled garden approach with even manipulating required codecs that go against common opinion, its like IE5 all over againApr 12 15:25
Ziomatrix_goblin: it does seem indeed strange that Google changes to supporting Theora considering Youtube is still converting from flash to h.264Apr 12 15:26
Diablo-D3Ziomatrix: well, noApr 12 15:27
Diablo-D3they're not doing anythingApr 12 15:27
Diablo-D3if they dont support it, then their browser will just fail conformance testsApr 12 15:27
Diablo-D3its no big dealApr 12 15:27
Diablo-D3its no different than firefox not supporting h264+aacApr 12 15:27
Diablo-D3firefox, too, will not pass conformance testsApr 12 15:27
danWill we see youTube playable with Ogg only?Apr 12 15:28
Ziomatrixdan: I doubt itApr 12 15:28
Diablo-D3dan: possiblyApr 12 15:28
Diablo-D3But Im probably not allowed to talk about that.Apr 12 15:28
danWhy?Apr 12 15:28
Ziomatrixdan: I see them wanting to take advantage of as many plug-ins as possible, it will make the website bloated as hell but at least they'll ensure the most usersApr 12 15:28
danThats good then.Apr 12 15:29
Ziomatrixdan: I dunno how they'll do it though by menu selection or auto detection that determines which browser you're logging on with, maybe bothApr 12 15:30
danAlthough does anyone else feel Google is becoming another MS?Apr 12 15:30
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Gates Foundation Pays for Press Coverage of Its Work, Involved in Fatal Vaccination Disaster in #India http://ur1.ca/upkxApr 12 15:31
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danGates and vaccination, where do I begin ....Apr 12 15:31
Ziomatrixdan: between genetic crops gone awry that compells farmers to commit suicide over confronting mounting debt and this shennanigans India is going to be in a world of trouble before they reach any kind of economic security for even a quarter of its population.Apr 12 15:32
Ziomatrixtheir poor have become a giant testing ground for large corporationsApr 12 15:33
danThats ttrue ZiomatrixApr 12 15:33
Ziomatrixhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1123221217782777472# lolApr 12 15:34
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] @schestowitz nice pic :)Apr 12 15:37
Ziomatrixdid I commit sin by posting a Google link?Apr 12 15:38
danWell yes, but only a small one:)Apr 12 15:38
ZiomatrixI guess the FOSS Gods won't grant me any leniency when it comes to how long it will take compile and fix the next dependency. I hope no active #linux users on here so I don't get the cold shoulder whenever I ask for help next time. :-PApr 12 15:42
Ziomatrixdan: actually do most FOSS advocates see the faults in Google that we do?Apr 12 15:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] EPIP conference with an emphasis will be given to the issues of software patents and development and open source http://ur1.ca/upo7Apr 12 15:47
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Ziomatrixugh, it makes me sad to see the US's creativity is going to drain because of our constantly contraining IP laws and right now the President along with Congress is only making it worseApr 12 15:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Deadline to submit your paper to the EPIP conference about patents and al is the 30 May 2010: http://ur1.ca/upo7Apr 12 15:48
TechrightsBotTitle: European Policy for Intellectual Property .::. Size~: 14.71 KBApr 12 15:48
danI don't know.... FSF does criticise Google sometimes.Apr 12 15:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] The PublicACTA Conference Webcast in Wellington, New Zealand, full of video recordings: http://ur1.ca/upolApr 12 15:50
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Ziomatrixdan: well Google makes it appaulingly obvious for them by violating their agreements and created tiered development for projects that were initially GPLApr 12 15:50
danWhat software do you run Ziomatrix?Apr 12 15:51
schestowitzhttp://weblog.greenpeace.org/nuclear-reaction/Apr 12 15:52
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_goblinlol my article about TBI is listed above the one by Which magazine on Google.Apr 12 15:53
danGreenpeace? Useless in my opinion. But each to their own....Apr 12 15:56
_goblinagreed.....helping prevent climate change by chugging around the seas on that tug boat.....I think its ok though.....you can't damage the environment if the machine which pumps out fumes has greenpeace on the side.Apr 12 15:57
Ziomatrixdan: I have YDL on my PS3Apr 12 15:58
_goblinI have it written on the side of my house which means Im now carbon neutral and I can burn all the fossil fuels I like.Apr 12 15:58
Ziomatrixdan: I also like to use GIMP, Open Office and a variety of other alternatives to overly costly software. But alas in most ways I feel like a hypocrite.Apr 12 15:58
danY? because you have a PS3? :)Apr 12 15:59
_goblinIve got a PS3Apr 12 15:59
Ziomatrixdan: no its just I am late into the whole open source movement so my PC is still on Windows XP, I have dabled with Linux on Quemu though and my next computer will have Fedora on it. My current one lacks space and it seems there are fragments I can't removeApr 12 16:00
Ziomatrixdan: I know that means I should probably reformat, but I'm busy and still need it for classwork and ect.Apr 12 16:01
danYeah OK I see what U mean.Apr 12 16:02
Ziomatrixdan: I should probably make enough room to install an Ubuntu boot partition which actually works on NTFSApr 12 16:03
Ziomatrixdan: Mono aside it would be goodApr 12 16:03
danYeah Ubuntu is good with NTFSApr 12 16:03
danI use Trisquel, I love it have to sayApr 12 16:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @eduvid thanks, buddyApr 12 16:04
schestowitz[15:33] <Ziomatrix> their poor have become a giant testing ground for large corporationsApr 12 16:04
schestowitzIf something goes bad, it's cheapApr 12 16:04
schestowitzIf India denies it, they go to AfricaApr 12 16:04
schestowitzSee the film "Constant Gardener"Apr 12 16:05
schestowitzDu Pont had more than 4 girls killed in in this latest alleged case with Merck|GatesApr 12 16:05
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danis it on TPB?Apr 12 16:05
schestowitz[15:56] <dan> Greenpeace? Useless in my opinion. But each to their own....Apr 12 16:06
schestowitzis it true what I heard about Rockefellers funding them?Apr 12 16:06
schestowitzI reckon corps have many reasons to baselessly tarsnish Greenpeace's reputationApr 12 16:07
danYeah but what reputation?Apr 12 16:07
schestowitzdan: might be on the TPB, never used TPBApr 12 16:07
schestowitzI watched the film at the cinemaApr 12 16:07
schestowitzdan: they are regarded as leading in env. activismApr 12 16:08
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danwell maybe, so is that guy Al gore.Apr 12 16:08
schestowitzFlorian has responded to meApr 12 16:09
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2010/04/11/florian-mueller-and-erika-mann/#commentsApr 12 16:09
schestowitzI've responded to his 'dance' around the issuesApr 12 16:09
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schestowitzdan: the one whom I follow says Gore exaggerates and thus discredits the scientistsApr 12 16:10
schestowitzOverstating does not helpApr 12 16:10
danWell I just don't get or rate Greenpeace very highly.Apr 12 16:11
schestowitzdan: http://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54?recommended=1#p/u/8/52KLGqDSAjoApr 12 16:11
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danI don't believe in climate change, sorry I'm an atheist ...Apr 12 16:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[thistleweb] New Blog Post | Sponsored Substitutes | The Digital Prism http://tinyurl.com/y4yer8oApr 12 16:13
TechrightsBotTitle: Sponsored Substitutes | The Digital Prism .::. Size~: 10.34 KBApr 12 16:13
schestowitzdan: not a beliefApr 12 16:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Adobe reader is a mess. http://ur1.ca/upte #Okular has gotten so wonderful that I never depend on blobs for PDF anymore #kdeApr 12 16:15
schestowitzAs he says in the video, it's not believer|denier, it's proponents|skepticsApr 12 16:15
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Adobe acrobat and reader will get a 'silent update'  - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 62.26 KBApr 12 16:15
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1600365/microsoft-issue-mega-patch-tuesdayApr 12 16:15
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Microsoft will issue a mega-patch on tuesday - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 61.36 KBApr 12 16:15
schestowitzdan: you describe yourself by a negation? :-)Apr 12 16:16
danI like Okular very slick interface.Apr 12 16:16
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schestowitzIt handles the OCR and annotation stuffApr 12 16:16
schestowitzThat had me have to download Reader in the past, to read colleagues commentsApr 12 16:16
schestowitz*s'Apr 12 16:16
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1600299/ubuntu-linux-million-usersApr 12 16:16
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Ubuntu linux has over 12 million users - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 90.8 KBApr 12 16:17
schestowitzSo Ubuntu alone ought to have over 1% of the market, with lots more (maybe 30 million) for others in devices and desktopsApr 12 16:17
schestowitzNice to have some numbers as ammoApr 12 16:17
schestowitzBrazil uses Debian variants and othersApr 12 16:18
schestowitzhttp://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1600131/murdoch-sticks-paywallApr 12 16:18
TechrightsBotTitle:                     Murdoch sticks behind his paywalls - The Inquirer          .::. Size~: 74.55 KBApr 12 16:18
danGotta go see y'all later.Apr 12 16:19
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/07/linux_north_korea/Apr 12 16:22
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schestowitzThey spin as it all negativeApr 12 16:23
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-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] International trade can't ration finite fossil fuels or tuna, but enthusiastically restricts infinite knowledge http://ur1.ca/upuyApr 12 16:28
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] America blackmails the world on ACTA transparency http://ur1.ca/upv5Apr 12 16:28
TechrightsBotTitle: International trade can't ration finite fossil fuels or tuna, but enthusiastically restricts infinite knowledge - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.83 KBApr 12 16:28
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schestowitzDaemonFC: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/08/ubuntu_yahoo_google_lucid_lynx/Apr 12 16:28
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sebsebsebschestowitz: Yes it's going back to Google as default,  that's old newsApr 12 16:30
schestowitzI knowApr 12 16:30
schestowitzDaemonFC said nothing about it, afaikApr 12 16:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @diablod3 America blackmails the world on ACTA transparency http://ur1.ca/upv5Apr 12 16:31
TechrightsBotTitle: America blackmails the world on ACTA transparency - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 27.96 KBApr 12 16:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Today Microsoft will start a blitz for its turtle-ugly phones and then make unsubstantiated claims about Silver Lie adoption.Apr 12 16:32
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schestowitzjono: wbApr 12 16:37
jonothanks schestowitz!Apr 12 16:37
jonohows things?Apr 12 16:37
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/28204441#notice-28250569 "@schestowitz: Gotta agree with you there, Roy. Okular is probably the best PDF reader I've ever used, moreso than Evince even."Apr 12 16:38
TechrightsBotTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.4 KBApr 12 16:38
schestowitzjono: I became an uncle last nightApr 12 16:38
jonoschestowitz hey thats wonderful news!Apr 12 16:39
jonocongrats!Apr 12 16:39
schestowitzI feel old(Er) nowApr 12 16:39
schestowitzhttp://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldselect/ldeucom/68/6802.htmApr 12 16:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Good morning, Internet friends! Back in the saddle on this rainy day in Northern California. How are things with you all?Apr 12 16:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] ♺ @galoppini: Open Source Communities: "The Art of Community" by @JonoBacon http://bit.ly/bVkzFgApr 12 16:43
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] ♺ @jonobacon ♺ @galoppini: Open Source Communities: "The Art of Community" by @JonoBacon http://bit.ly/bVkzFgApr 12 16:45
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schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0410/green-day-singer-tells-bill-maher-religion-bunch-bullsht/Apr 12 16:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Green Day singer tells Bill Maher: Religion is a bunch of bullsh*t |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 51.12 KBApr 12 16:45
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0411/bachmanns-latest-invention-obama-nationalized-51-economy/Apr 12 16:45
TechrightsBotTitle: Bachmanns latest invention: Obama has nationalized 51% of the economy |  Raw Story .::. Size~: 44.02 KBApr 12 16:45
schestowitzhttp://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0410/letter-shows-future-pope-benedict-xvi-resisted-defrocking-molester-priest/Apr 12 16:47
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schestowitzzoobab: : http://boycottnovell.com/2010/04/11/florian-mueller-and-erika-mann/#comments "I won’t engage in back-and-forth discussions on this website here, where I only wanted to point out that I have responded on my blog. I will now quickly update my above-mentioned blog post to address these follow-on questions. If there are more questions and I don’t update, then it’s because at some point I’ll believe I can’t be Apr 12 16:48
schestowitzreasonably expected to answer questions that either digress from the original issue or keep going in circles."Apr 12 16:48
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DaemonFCschestowitz: I noticed an oddity in the Medicare Part D assistanceApr 12 17:03
DaemonFCif you get a full subsidy, you have no deductible, which means you should sign up for a cheap plan which normally has high deductible so you qualify for no premium, right?Apr 12 17:04
DaemonFCso since Medicare is paying your deductible costs, shouldn't they just fork over the extra few dollars a month for a plan with a lower deductible?Apr 12 17:04
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schestowitzHey, DaemonFCApr 12 17:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Site Disclosure http://ur1.ca/uq35 Site's interests are only idealogical, never tainted by a single buck - just to clarify againApr 12 17:21
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schestowitzDaemonFC: I don't use that system, ask jono instead :-pApr 12 17:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google is not exactly going out of #China . http://ur1.ca/uq40 Media hype? #censorshipApr 12 17:24
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[eduvid] MIT Meerut becomes first FreeBSD node at Meerut #india #foss #freebsd http://post.ly/Zp2oApr 12 17:28
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Omar87Hi all.Apr 12 17:33
schestowitzI see that the trolls from ACCESS+branches are now attacking me in other people's blogsApr 12 17:35
schestowitzOmar87: see the update about Microsoft Jordan if you fancy itApr 12 17:36
Omar87schestowitz, let's see. :)Apr 12 17:36
schestowitzSee 4th post from the topApr 12 17:36
DaemonFCschestowitz: I jsut find it odd that Medicare would rather pay an extra $250 a year ($20.83 a month) to cover the difference in deductibles rather than pay another $8.30 a month in premiumsApr 12 17:36
schestowitz Microsoft Jordan helps Redmond enter PalestineApr 12 17:36
DaemonFCit's to my advantage to sign up for a program that costs the government moreApr 12 17:37
Omar87schestowitz: by the way, Netrunner finally came to my rescue. :)Apr 12 17:37
DaemonFCbecause I get no deductible and no premiumsApr 12 17:37
schestowitzDaemonFC: you're forced to pay it now, right?Apr 12 17:37
DaemonFCschestowitz:  Part D assistance was approved alreadyApr 12 17:37
schestowitzOmar87: yes, you can spread the word about itApr 12 17:37
DaemonFCPart B is what I'm fighting the state overApr 12 17:37
schestowitzI'd install it if I was a "GNOME guy"Apr 12 17:38
DaemonFCalthough the OMB program (which is what I'm fighting for now) covers both, I signed up for both separatelyApr 12 17:38
DaemonFCin case I don't get Part B  help, I've still got the Part D helpApr 12 17:38
DaemonFCit's a messApr 12 17:39
DaemonFCtotal patchworkApr 12 17:39
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/193923/adobe_evangelist_tells_apple_go_screw_yourself.html?tk=rss_newsApr 12 17:39
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DaemonFCPart B premium is $110 a month and Part D premium can be from $25 to $50 depending what you sign up forApr 12 17:39
schestowitzWould he be fired for it?Apr 12 17:39
DaemonFCthey fight you harder on Part B cause it costs moreApr 12 17:40
DaemonFCschestowitz: The real insult is that people who were on Part B last year still get it for $90 a monthApr 12 17:41
DaemonFCI got slapped with $110 because I wasn't eligible last yearApr 12 17:41
DaemonFCso I get to pay $240 a year more for an identical planApr 12 17:41
schestowitzMake two kidsApr 12 17:42
schestowitzSell them to wage slaveryApr 12 17:42
DaemonFCyesApr 12 17:42
schestowitzCollect welfare off themApr 12 17:42
DaemonFCyesssssss!!!!Apr 12 17:42
schestowitz:-pApr 12 17:42
schestowitzYou're "entitled"Apr 12 17:42
schestowitzIt's the "American Way"Apr 12 17:43
DaemonFCschestowitz: That's only if you're a womanApr 12 17:43
schestowitzhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/193976/java_founder_james_gosling_leaves_oracle.html?tk=rss_newsApr 12 17:43
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schestowitzThis is not goodApr 12 17:43
DaemonFCIf you're a man, you get stuck wit hthe child support billApr 12 17:43
schestowitzAlimoneyyy[sic]Apr 12 17:43
DaemonFC:)Apr 12 17:43
DaemonFCWomen....againApr 12 17:43
schestowitzNoApr 12 17:44
schestowitzPopulation managementApr 12 17:44
schestowitzGet yourself a uterusApr 12 17:44
DaemonFCWomen get it all and stick men with the billApr 12 17:44
schestowitzWomen can be discriminated against, tooApr 12 17:45
DaemonFCoh bullshitApr 12 17:45
schestowitzSo it's not like you put itApr 12 17:45
DaemonFCif they break a nail they take workers compApr 12 17:45
schestowitzThere's also the non-duality in intercourseApr 12 17:45
schestowitzA girl who sleeps with many guys is a "Slut"Apr 12 17:45
schestowitzA guy who sleeps with many girls is a "Stud"Apr 12 17:45
schestowitzThere are many things like thatApr 12 17:45
schestowitzSteretypes tooApr 12 17:45
schestowitz*eoApr 12 17:46
DaemonFCWomen walk in and get every kind of public assistance in the book, especially if they've squeezed out some unitsApr 12 17:46
DaemonFCpoor womenApr 12 17:46
DaemonFChave it so hardApr 12 17:46
schestowitzIs IDG News Service paid by Apple to advertise hypePad as articles?Apr 12 17:46
schestowitzIt sure looks like itApr 12 17:46
DaemonFCsociety just puts so much on themApr 12 17:46
schestowitzIDG is trashApr 12 17:46
schestowitzLike 1/6 of the headline there now contain "iPad"Apr 12 17:47
schestowitzOut of ~250Apr 12 17:47
schestowitzDaemonFC: a women raised youApr 12 17:47
schestowitzAnd breastfed youApr 12 17:47
schestowitz*womanApr 12 17:47
DaemonFCnopeApr 12 17:48
schestowitzThey have some advanced anatomy compared to menApr 12 17:48
schestowitzDon't dissApr 12 17:48
DaemonFCfed me enfamil and cheeriosApr 12 17:48
DaemonFC:DApr 12 17:48
schestowitzThere's queen termites, black widow, etc.Apr 12 17:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “The true hypocrite is the one who ceases to perceive his deception, the one who lies with sincerity.” ~Andre GideApr 12 17:48
DaemonFCit works the same in insect colonies, you're rightApr 12 17:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: cereal in the glands?Apr 12 17:49
schestowitzThat's /gotta/ hurtApr 12 17:49
DaemonFCmen are the worker drones who live short miserable livesApr 12 17:50
schestowitzBible is differentApr 12 17:50
schestowitzWritten by menApr 12 17:50
DaemonFCand have to defend the colonyApr 12 17:50
schestowitzSo they say men are made from dirt and women are a dirty ribApr 12 17:50
schestowitzDaemonFC: yesApr 12 17:50
schestowitzBut not the problem is oppositeApr 12 17:50
schestowitzExponential growthApr 12 17:51
schestowitzTrying to keep those whom you call "baby machine" in the US under controlApr 12 17:51
schestowitzNature's resources are finiteApr 12 17:51
schestowitzMore people=less resources like water/air/space for eachApr 12 17:51
DaemonFCyeah, their ability to reproduce and have the taxpayers subsidize it isn'tApr 12 17:51
DaemonFCapparentlyApr 12 17:52
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[popey] Bought some chocolate cake for tonights @uupc recording. :)Apr 12 17:52
Omar87schestowitz, who's Nathan Newman?Apr 12 17:52
schestowitzWe're already kicking hard on fossil consumption and GMO foodApr 12 17:52
schestowitzWe become dependent on this supply paceApr 12 17:52
schestowitzVery dangerous, hard to maintainApr 12 17:52
schestowitzOmar87: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-GB&q=Nathan+Newman&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&ie=UTF-8Apr 12 17:52
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schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=Nathan+NewmanApr 12 17:53
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Omar87schestowitz, some sort of a politician?Apr 12 17:53
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] " و عسى أن تكرهوا شيئا و هو خير لكم"@abuyazanApr 12 17:55
DaemonFCMedicare is paying $3,000 to have a chair on rails mounted into the wall for people who can't walk up the stairs anymore and everyone wonders why they're bankruptApr 12 17:56
DaemonFC:DApr 12 17:56
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schestowitzhttp://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/2010/04/library-is-machine.html http://www.sproutcore.com/Apr 12 17:57
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] What's so good about it? It's just another piece of M$ junkware, imo. -_- @giciorekApr 12 17:58
DaemonFCschestowitz: My bicycle ships tomorrowApr 12 17:59
DaemonFCaccording to Amazon :)Apr 12 17:59
schestowitzwot?Apr 12 18:00
schestowitzYou bought from them?Apr 12 18:01
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2010/02/23/boycott-amazon/Apr 12 18:01
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] It really makes me sick when I see those pathetic people feel excited like dogs when M$ throws them a bone for free. #PatheticM$Kool-aidersApr 12 18:02
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] It really makes me sick when I see those pathetic people feel excited like dogs when M$ throws them a bone for free. #PatheticMSKoolAidersApr 12 18:04
Omar87schestowitz, it really makes me sick when I see those pathetic people feel excited like dogs when M$ throws them a bone for free.Apr 12 18:04
schestowitzHmmm... server issue for for past few minutes... let's investigateApr 12 18:04
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] RD @glynmoody #UK MPs call for ID cards and surveillance, but demand privacy for themselves http://bit.ly/9eTvTz Parliament of hypocritesApr 12 18:05
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Universal rule of software quality? The closer to infrastrucutre the better they are? *sigh*Apr 12 18:11
schestowitzhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/05/technology/05google.html?partner=rss&emc=rssApr 12 18:14
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schestowitzThey do the right thing (Google)Apr 12 18:15
DaemonFCschestowitz: Amazon was the cheapest place for both bike and second battery packApr 12 18:17
DaemonFCno shipping and no taxes is why that wasApr 12 18:17
DaemonFCyes, my bike is contraband, I didn't pay sales tax onApr 12 18:18
DaemonFCshhhhh :PApr 12 18:18
schestowitzhttp://www.design-reuse.com/news/23038/ravikrishna-cherukuri-mips.htmlApr 12 18:18
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] The other end of the scale being closer to business the worse they are?Apr 12 18:19
schestowitzDaemonFC: all you need now is another hoodie and off you ride on your bike with a gunApr 12 18:19
schestowitzThen comes relocation to Detroit, MIApr 12 18:19
schestowitzhttp://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000238.jpgApr 12 18:22
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DaemonFChehApr 12 18:22
schestowitzDaemonFC: Mayor up yr dike is worried about youApr 12 18:22
schestowitzUbuntu dissed in a cartoon. http://www.penguinpetes.com/Doomed_to_Obscurity/index.php?strip=0000237.jpgApr 12 18:23
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Omar87schestowitz, it seems there's going to be a new Windows phone. It's called "KIN", something like that.Apr 12 18:29
Omar87schestowitz, http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/KIN/Apr 12 18:31
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schestowitzhttp://ostatic.com/blog/canonical-announces-12-million-ubuntu-users-google-makes-a-comebackApr 12 18:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The new #Microsoft phone shows just how desperate the Redmond devil has become. #KINApr 12 18:34
Omar87schestowitz, have you seen the new Windows phone? It looks pathetically hilarious! :PApr 12 18:34
Omar87Or "ludicrous", to be more accurate.Apr 12 18:35
schestowitzOmar87: [16:32] [Notice] -BNtwitter to #boycottnovell- [schestowitz] Today Microsoft will start a blitz for its turtle-ugly phones and then make unsubstantiated claims about Silver Lie adoption.Apr 12 18:35
DaemonFCschestowitz: Once my mom finishes suing Gonad The Barbarian, I'll have his pickup truck most likely Apr 12 18:36
DaemonFClolApr 12 18:36
schestowitzHeh. Pickup truck. I can see that..Apr 12 18:36
Omar87schestowitz, yeah man. Buying a lump of horseshit like that is just the worse way of wasting money. It's looks so ugly that you might wanna wear sterile plastic glove before holding it.Apr 12 18:37
DaemonFCschestowitz:  Only gets 8 miles per gallonApr 12 18:38
DaemonFCso I won't be driving it a lot anywayApr 12 18:38
DaemonFCtoo expensive to take it on a road tripApr 12 18:39
DaemonFCmaybe if I get a cover for it, it'll help the gas mileageApr 12 18:39
DaemonFCthose supposedly doApr 12 18:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Do you really like the shape of Microsoft's new phone? #KIN. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 18:39
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Hey you Redmon devils! Your new phone looks so friggin' ugly that one might wanna wear sterile plastic gloves before holding it! @MicrosoftApr 12 18:42
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schestowitzHehe. sterile plastic glovesApr 12 18:45
schestowitzDid SteveB run is against his armpit?Apr 12 18:46
schestowitz*itApr 12 18:46
DaemonFCschestowitz: They ought to spend some money to finish Marble Hill and bring it onlineApr 12 18:47
DaemonFCthat's what I sayApr 12 18:47
schestowitzhttp://www.neatorama.com/2010/04/10/20-party-cakes-gone-horribly-wrong/Apr 12 18:48
DaemonFCpeople need to get over their paranoia of nuclear powerApr 12 18:48
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schestowitzhehe.Apr 12 18:48
schestowitzBrown cakeApr 12 18:48
*DaemonFC facepalmsApr 12 18:49
schestowitzhttp://www.discountpartysupplies.com/blog/2010/04/07/20-party-cakes-gone-horribly-wrong/Apr 12 18:49
TechrightsBotTitle: 20 Party Cakes Gone Horribly Wrong | Party 911 Blog  - Tips, Tricks And Helpful Hints For Hosting A Great Party .::. Size~: 48.03 KBApr 12 18:49
schestowitzWatch #17Apr 12 18:49
schestowitzThe Microsoft cake?Apr 12 18:49
schestowitzDaemonFC: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4092Apr 12 18:50
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schestowitzI listened to it last nightApr 12 18:50
schestowitzhave a go @ itApr 12 18:50
DaemonFChttp://www.discountpartysupplies.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Thomasthetank.jpgApr 12 18:54
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Omar87schestowitz, Gartenberg: "#kin is an excellent example of when mobile and social networks converge. Optimized UI shows non-silo experiences integrated."Apr 12 19:06
Omar87schestowitz, that guy is such a butt kisser. :PApr 12 19:07
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] Want to come and work on my team growing a cloud community? Check out http://is.gd/bpR5k #ubuntuApr 12 19:10
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] But then it looks like garbage. Plus, come on man! It's friggin' Microsoft! (In other words: "YUKKK!!") :P @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:13
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I would like to hand you a brotherly advice. Microsoft is lying to you. Their business model is all about spreading lies. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:14
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schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCZdKY_z_tEApr 12 19:15
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Which means, do NOT believe them! And try to value your true freedom! @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:15
schestowitzOmar87: he's an AstroTurferApr 12 19:16
schestowitzIt's his jobApr 12 19:16
_GoblinNetrunner article has now reached over 1200 unique reads alone..Apr 12 19:16
schestowitzHe used to work for MicrosoftApr 12 19:16
Omar87schestowitz, of course it is.Apr 12 19:16
Omar87schestowitz, of course *he* is.Apr 12 19:16
schestowitzhttp://boycottnovell.com/2010/03/14/microsoft-mole-in-engadget/Apr 12 19:17
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Omar87schestowitz: I think my latest post about MS hypocrites gives a pretty good explanation about the mentality of these creatures.Apr 12 19:17
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Do you know why you're a big Microsoft fan? Because you've never known anything else! That is the biggest part of the scam! @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:18
schestowitzHe also slams OLPC, Linux, and he boosts the ZuneApr 12 19:19
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_Goblinschestowitz: If anyone can actually boost the Zune, then they should be voted saleman of the year.....you can't polish dog sh*tApr 12 19:20
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] If you want the best for your country, then you have to dump Microsoft, and look for what is Free! Syria needs this! @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:22
schestowitz_Goblin: I told the lead devApr 12 19:22
schestowitz_Goblin: actually you canApr 12 19:22
schestowitzIt need to be dried up first... freeze-driedApr 12 19:22
_GoblinZune was in the bargin bins of US stores last year (as reported by users on MSwatch)....it will be in the real bin this xmas.Apr 12 19:22
Omar87schestowitz, can you imagine that someone from Syria is refusing my advice to dump MS just because I don't know him?Apr 12 19:23
schestowitzDeep freeze the ZuneApr 12 19:23
schestowitzSend them back in timeApr 12 19:23
schestowitz1980s generations might tolerate themApr 12 19:23
schestowitz"Just add water" (the make the douche thaw)Apr 12 19:23
schestowitzOmar87: they don't take instructions from outside the ecosystemApr 12 19:23
schestowitzIt's a discipline that's culturalApr 12 19:24
_GoblinI think 1980 may be too late...even the sony walkman was better.....at least it worked properly.Apr 12 19:24
_Goblinand is actually worth quite a bit now.Apr 12 19:24
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Do I have to know you? You are my neighbor. You are like a brother to me. It's my duty to help you even if I don't know you. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:24
Omar87schestowitz, but that's stupid. Jordanians an Syrians are more than neighbors.Apr 12 19:25
schestowitzOmar87: don't worry about MicrosoftApr 12 19:26
schestowitzTHey knew how to have a good time. http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2010/01/27/microsoft_offered_ladies/Apr 12 19:26
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schestowitz_Goblin: I loved walkmansApr 12 19:26
schestowitzMy last one got stolenApr 12 19:26
Omar87schestowitz, but I think it has nothing to do with culture or whatever. It's just a psychological mechanism for rejecting advice for the silliest of reasons.Apr 12 19:26
schestowitzI still have tapes here and a playerApr 12 19:26
schestowitzOmar87: like religion (no offence)Apr 12 19:26
schestowitzI like scientific methodsApr 12 19:27
schestowitzDebate on merit basisApr 12 19:27
Omar87schestowitz, I'm not worried about M$ itself. I'm worried about the people.Apr 12 19:27
schestowitzNot some AstroTurfers being paid to lie about productsApr 12 19:27
schestowitzLike GartnenbergApr 12 19:27
schestowitzOmar87: that they won't succeed for themselves and their nation?Apr 12 19:28
schestowitzPeople who rent software are always imprisonedApr 12 19:28
schestowitzGoogle emerged with GNUApr 12 19:28
*MinceR_ is now known as MinceRApr 12 19:28
schestowitzA nation that's an oil of tech client or another loses its own sovereigntyApr 12 19:29
schestowitzThis is esp. understood in places like South American and South AfricaApr 12 19:29
Omar87schestowitz: Okay. Okay. Let me wrap up the issue of science-religion for you. "If you think you've consulted science, and science tells you that there's no God, then you have even came close to science" (End of discussion)Apr 12 19:29
schestowitzhttp://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/most-computer-users-need-linux-38020Apr 12 19:30
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schestowitzOmar87: no, not thatApr 12 19:30
schestowitzThe issue of not allowing skepticismApr 12 19:30
Omar87schestowitz. That they're willfully giving up their minds to Microsoft. (I.e: Willfull indoctrination)Apr 12 19:30
schestowitzLike I criticise IBNApr 12 19:30
schestowitz*IBMApr 12 19:30
schestowitzOmar87: yesApr 12 19:30
schestowitzIOW, they won't think differentlyApr 12 19:31
schestowitzLocked into a mindset unquestionablyApr 12 19:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] If course it does. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:31
Omar87schestowitz, exactly.Apr 12 19:32
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Look at other developing countries like Brazil or Venezuela. They've embraced Free Software. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:32
schestowitzhttp://www.blogicalthoughts.com/images/signs/1171_signs.jpgApr 12 19:33
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Currently I'm a student, and a Software Freedom activist. And soon I might get a job at company in Jordan named D1G.com. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] A job as a Python/Django developer. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:34
schestowitzroy@roy:~$ uptimeApr 12 19:35
schestowitz 19:34:54 up 146 days, 16:06,  2 users,  load average: 1.69, 1.38, 1.32Apr 12 19:35
schestowitzI'll need to reboot when I upgradeApr 12 19:35
Omar87schestowitz, LOL! Check this out: http://www.basharkokash.com/post/Microsofte28099s-commitment-to-Open-source-Part-1.aspxApr 12 19:36
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] That is nonsense. No offense. I've read a lot about MS to know that this is a lie. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:36
Omar87schestowitz, some people do really believe that MS is loyal to open source! ><Apr 12 19:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] MS is never loyal to open source. And a simple proof is that they never allow any of their products to work on #Linux. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:41
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Ballmer wants to see all Open Source innovation happening in Windows. And that's NOT what open source really is. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:42
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/04/fake-tax-returns/Apr 12 19:46
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Check out this 100% independent website for more info. about how Microsoft wants to totally indoctrinate you. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:46
schestowitzMicrosoft knows it's lying, but if it does the PR right, then its worshippers will believe itApr 12 19:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Check out this 100% independent website for more info. about how Microsoft wants to totally indoctrinate you.. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:47
Diablo-D3http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/NLE-gg2v1ds/this-looks-like-a-duckApr 12 19:48
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] www.boycottnovell.com @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] #Microsoft #MVP after examples we have had recently on Openbytes, is it a title or more of a branding of shame?Apr 12 19:49
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Mono is NOT a genuine open source project. Lots of voices are against it. Plus it's proven that Mono is a trap for Linux. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:49
MinceRr4wrApr 12 19:50
Diablo-D3I wish that was on identicaApr 12 19:50
Diablo-D3I'd totally sell bashar to eat a dickApr 12 19:50
Diablo-D3er, tellApr 12 19:50
Diablo-D3I dont want to figure out how the typo would workApr 12 19:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Plus, did you know that Novell is now about to be bought? It's sliding slowly into bankruptcy @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:50
Omar87schestowitz, see what Novell does? It sells a fake picture about MS being a good friend of Free Software while the reality to totally opposite. Apr 12 19:51
Diablo-D3Omar87: wellApr 12 19:51
Diablo-D3I dont _entirely_ blame themApr 12 19:51
Diablo-D3they cant buy usApr 12 19:51
Diablo-D3they cant destroy usApr 12 19:51
Diablo-D3they cant even bad mouth us effectivelyApr 12 19:51
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez I wouldn't waste your time with him. Ask him about the Juku incident where MS was caught lifting code...Apr 12 19:51
Diablo-D3the only way for them to survive is to pretend to join usApr 12 19:52
Diablo-D3eventually, they WILL be us.Apr 12 19:52
Diablo-D3assuming they survive the next ten yearsApr 12 19:52
Omar87Diablo-D3, that's right. But they can buy the naive, which are unfortunately the majority.Apr 12 19:52
Diablo-D3Omar87: yes, but the naive arent our customersApr 12 19:52
Diablo-D3the people who do business with people like us generally arent fucktardsApr 12 19:52
Omar87Diablo-D3, true. But the naive also humans, nonetheless.Apr 12 19:53
Diablo-D3we're our own industry and economyApr 12 19:53
Diablo-D3its kind of hilariousApr 12 19:53
Diablo-D3everytime microsoft tries to Mono the problemApr 12 19:53
Diablo-D3it just gains us more customers... many of them former microsoft customersApr 12 19:53
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Diablo-D3You know what else I find amusing?Apr 12 19:54
Diablo-D3Apple has a cult.Apr 12 19:54
Diablo-D3Its a business, and a major player in the global industryApr 12 19:54
Diablo-D3Linux has a cult.Apr 12 19:54
Diablo-D3Its a collection of businesses, several bigger than Apple.Apr 12 19:54
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin can you give me some links?Apr 12 19:54
Diablo-D3Microsoft doesnt have a cult. Apple is almost as big as Microsoft.Apr 12 19:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I judge a product by what came before it. Microsoft has literally screwed up big time with Windows Mobile and Zune. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:55
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "If you can't make it good, at least make it look good." ~Bill Gates. That's the lie that you are willfully buying. Wake up! @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:56
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "We have screwed up with Windows Mobile." ~Steve Ballmer. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 19:56
schestowitzhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/10/troops-fire-bangkok-protestersApr 12 19:57
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schestowitz[19:51] <Omar87> schestowitz, see what Novell does? It sells a fake picture about MS being a good friend of Free Software while the reality to totally opposite. Apr 12 19:58
schestowitzYesApr 12 19:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The argument is easier than you are trying to imagine. All you have to do is stop believing every lie that you are told. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 20:00
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Syria is a developing country. And the dependency on a corporation in that case is the deadliest of all mistakes! @Bashar_KokashApr 12 20:02
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I can not change it. You can. You just have to start thinking. And be honest to yourself. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 20:03
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez Yep, here's one: http://tinyurl.com/ybfaph3 (re: Plurk/Juku)Apr 12 20:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Oh yeah! Great products that don't even have multitasking (Which is trivial for Linux mobile systems like Android)@odaynasserApr 12 20:05
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schestowitz@omar_s_hafez tell your pen pal that Microsoft has already violated the GPL several timesApr 12 20:05
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] @omar_s_hafez Microsoft doesn't like to talk about freedomApr 12 20:06
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] For example, keep in mind that when using Windows, you are using a STOLEN invention! @Bashar_KokashApr 12 20:06
schestowitzhttp://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/04/07Apr 12 20:08
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] And neither did I insult you. I'm just trying to show you what they never wanted you to see. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 20:08
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Plus, I'm not acting like a wise guy. I'm just a man who rebelled against the current system of lies and deception. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 20:09
schestowitzhttp://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/04/fcc-next/Apr 12 20:10
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Omar87schestowitz, it's really amazing how some people count attacks against Windows as insults to themselves.Apr 12 20:11
schestowitzOmar87: http://www.zazzle.com/cfl_truth_is_treason_in_the_empire_of_lies_tshirt-235639562398863642Apr 12 20:11
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schestowitzOmar87: you mean, like Apple fansApr 12 20:11
schestowitzit's like cursing someone's taste in musicApr 12 20:11
schestowitzOr football teamApr 12 20:12
schestowitzOr political partyApr 12 20:12
schestowitzThey think in terms of "teams"Apr 12 20:12
schestowitzNot absolutesApr 12 20:12
schestowitzNot valuesApr 12 20:12
schestowitzLike "IBM=good", "Apple=bad"Apr 12 20:12
schestowitzIt's 'my' teamApr 12 20:12
schestowitzhttp://www.prwatch.org/node/8991Apr 12 20:12
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MinceRm$ is a religionApr 12 20:14
MinceRand so is crAppleApr 12 20:14
MinceRthose cultists feel their religion insultedApr 12 20:14
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Keep in mind that your company is a convicted liar, a criminal and a thief! @Bashar_KokashApr 12 20:15
schestowitzOmar87: let it go.. http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/11/10/ballmer_wideweb__470x331,0.jpgApr 12 20:20
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schestowitzThey love the smell of $$ :-) http://www.microsoft.com/emea/presscentre/images/GLFArabia08/GLFArabia-BillGates-SheikhMohammedBinZayed-CrownPrinceofAbuDhabi.jpgApr 12 20:21
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schestowitzOmar87: arguing with them will upset both of youApr 12 20:22
Omar87schestowitz, that's true. But I just wanted to know that I'm not shy from shouting the truth, whether he likes it or not.Apr 12 20:23
schestowitzhttp://webmink.com/2010/04/12/geeks-vote-too/Apr 12 20:23
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schestowitzI won't be votingApr 12 20:23
schestowitzIt's just a PR industry cenemonyApr 12 20:23
schestowitzPreselected people, people come to merely approve what's appointed by the businesses that stand behind the electionsApr 12 20:24
schestowitzDEBill shows this welllApr 12 20:24
scientesahhhhApr 12 20:24
scientesi have a diskApr 12 20:24
scientesand fdisk -l recognized the partitionApr 12 20:24
scientesbut the kernel doesnotApr 12 20:24
scientesonly /dev/sdbApr 12 20:24
scientesno sdb1, sdb2Apr 12 20:24
scienteseven though it shows in kern.logApr 12 20:24
schestowitzdid you try to fsck it?Apr 12 20:24
scientesyou cant fsck a whole diskApr 12 20:24
scientesonly a partitionApr 12 20:24
Omar87schestowitz, Plus, actually, that's probably the last tweet 'coz he preferred to stop the argument. A very known psychological defense mechanism.Apr 12 20:25
scientesand the partition dev isn't showing upApr 12 20:25
scientesits a sata/usb externateApr 12 20:25
scientesand the power was cutApr 12 20:25
scientesand it seg faultedApr 12 20:25
scienteshow do i manuially create the device file?Apr 12 20:25
scientesor othewise be able to fsck itApr 12 20:25
schestowitzwunderkind jono might knowApr 12 20:26
schestowitzhttp://publicacta.org.nz/wellington-declaration/#more-330Apr 12 20:26
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scientesshiiiiiiApr 12 20:27
schestowitzUbuntu was invented by jono and mark in their college garageApr 12 20:27
schestowitzscientes: did you try gparted?Apr 12 20:27
schestowitzI always keep a CD with a partitioner aroundApr 12 20:27
schestowitzIt has recovery tools on the live cdApr 12 20:28
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Of course there's no comparison. MS and Apple products are all STOLEN inventions with inferior quality. Linux however, is Free. @odaynasserApr 12 20:28
schestowitzhttp://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.phpApr 12 20:29
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schestowitzOmar87: you reach out to high-hanging fruitApr 12 20:30
scientesahhhApr 12 20:30
schestowitzYou're not a giraffeApr 12 20:30
scientessomething in the beginning got screwed up Apr 12 20:30
scientesit doesn't know what type of filesystem it isApr 12 20:31
schestowitzUse recovery tollsApr 12 20:31
Diablo-D3[03:14:20] <schestowitz> Ubuntu was invented by jono and mark in their college garageApr 12 20:31
Diablo-D3invented?Apr 12 20:31
schestowitz*toolsApr 12 20:31
Diablo-D3you mean stolenApr 12 20:31
schestowitzForkedApr 12 20:31
schestowitzOff DebApr 12 20:31
schestowitzLike WindowsApr 12 20:31
schestowitzphotocopiers for BillG Apr 12 20:31
schestowitzI have a book on itApr 12 20:31
schestowitzAdmission that he just xeroxed Apple's OSApr 12 20:31
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "Reality is treason in the empire of lies." ~ www.Campaignforliberty.comApr 12 20:31
Diablo-D3why invent when you can steal from the best?Apr 12 20:32
schestowitzHe actually told his worker to do thisApr 12 20:32
Omar87schestowitz, what do you mean?Apr 12 20:32
schestowitzDiablo-D3: "greatest artists steal"Apr 12 20:32
schestowitzBill's and Steve's (Jobs) mottoApr 12 20:32
schestowitzOmar87: WIndows is all ripoffApr 12 20:33
schestowitzMicro-soft hired from another companyApr 12 20:33
schestowitzTo replicate what they hadApr 12 20:33
schestowitzLater they just copied Apple feature by featureApr 12 20:33
schestowitzThey did this again after Jaguar (OS X)Apr 12 20:33
schestowitzIn Vista 7 they seem to have 'borrowed' ideas from KDE4Apr 12 20:34
Omar87schestowitz, of course it is.Apr 12 20:34
schestowitz"Hey, Steve [Jobs], just because you broke into Xerox’s store before I did and took the TV doesn’t mean I can’t go in later and steal the stereo." -Bill Gates, MicrosoftApr 12 20:34
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Which is why you too have to spend too much on making Windows Virus free, and too much on buying Apple's garbage products too. @odaynasserApr 12 20:34
schestowitzhttp://www.ghabuntu.com/2010/04/how-to-use-phoshop-plugins-on-linux.htmlApr 12 20:35
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "We've always been SHAMELESS about stealing great ideas." ~Steve Jobs. @odaynasserApr 12 20:35
schestowitzApple's products are not garbage Apr 12 20:36
schestowitzThey are just normalApr 12 20:36
schestowitzLike a "PC"Apr 12 20:36
schestowitzJust branded differentlyApr 12 20:36
schestowitzAnd lots of marketing for their imageApr 12 20:36
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] "If you can't make it good, at least make it look good." ~Bill Gates @odaynasserApr 12 20:36
schestowitzOmar87: "No less than Bill Gates himself said in a recent Fortune article that Microsoft competes better against Linux in China when there's piracy than when there isn't." http://www.technewsworld.com/story/commentary/64902.htmlApr 12 20:37
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schestowitz"The government is not trying to destroy Microsoft, it’s simply seeking to compel Microsoft to obey the law. It’s quite revealing that Mr. Gates equates the two." -Government officialApr 12 20:37
schestowitzJust in case you need to make your point anywayApr 12 20:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] So, no offense but, if you call this "Innovation" then I'm really sorry for you. @odaynasserApr 12 20:37
schestowitzOmar87: is he Syrian?Apr 12 20:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Free as in "Freedom" NOT as in "Free pizza". That's what makes Linux superior in terms of security and verry rapid improvement. @odaynasserApr 12 20:38
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] ♺ @glynmoody: Open Source Software Goes Mainstream in Vietnam? - http://bit.ly/bm3Ygw let's hope so #vietnam #opensourceApr 12 20:38
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schestowitzTell him that backdoor in the proprietary s/w in their army broadcast  got  used for espionage not so long ago. Nuclear secrets also got nickedApr 12 20:39
Omar87schestowitz, "He's an Arab living in Britain this time.Apr 12 20:39
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Stealing from other people is NOT innovation. It's "stealing". @odaynasserApr 12 20:40
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Yeah. Look at KDE 4.4. @odaynasserApr 12 20:41
Omar87schestowitz, this guy claims that the latest Ubuntu release has stolen ideas. :PApr 12 20:43
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Plus, the outer look doesn't really matter to me, because what lurks inside much more important. @odaynasserApr 12 20:43
schestowitzhttp://www.stuartsheldon.org/blog/2010/04/sip-brute-force-attack-originating-from-amazon-ec2-hosts/Apr 12 20:44
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Ubuntu 10.04 can boot up in under 5 seconds, can either of Vista 7 and Mac do that? @odaynasserApr 12 20:44
schestowitzAmazon failing to respondApr 12 20:45
schestowitzOmar87: show his screenshots page in kde.orgApr 12 20:45
schestowitzThey don't know what GNU/Linux looks likeApr 12 20:45
schestowitzMany thing CLI, some thing brown UbuntuApr 12 20:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] IE on Windows 7 got busted in a little over two minutes. @odaynasserApr 12 20:45
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Window 7 can not be kept for a single day without an anti-virus. @odaynasserApr 12 20:45
schestowitzTell him to run it in a VM or another partitition, dare him to use something as a testApr 12 20:46
schestowitzFedora 12 w/ kde 4.3Apr 12 20:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] KDE 4.4 is much more beautiful. And it's also Free. I can give it to my neighbor without being sued. @odaynasserApr 12 20:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I can study it and do whatever I want with it without getting punished. @odaynasserApr 12 20:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Plus, lots of people don't afford the tough hardware to run those "Good looks", should they all go to hell because of that? @odaynasserApr 12 20:48
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] I'm a serious user, and I rely 1000% on Linux. @odaynasserApr 12 20:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] There are entire governments out there who rely 100% on Linux, for your information. @odaynasserApr 12 20:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] MS Office is no longer allowed to be sold in the US, remember? @odaynasserApr 12 20:50
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] Give #KDE 4.4 a chance, @odaynasser , run it in a VM, you might love it :-) http://www.kde.org/Apr 12 20:50
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Gimp and OpenOffice.org are much better and there are both Free Software. @odaynasserApr 12 20:51
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] The reason why many Linux distros don't come with eye-candy by default is because many people don't have the strong hardware. @odaynasserApr 12 20:52
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Yeah, keep listening to their lies. Keep being willfully indoctrinated by those illusionists. I'm really sorry for you. @odaynasserApr 12 20:55
schestowitz"Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it." Richard StallmanApr 12 20:59
schestowitzMinceR: check 'tis: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODEzOAApr 12 20:59
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[zoobab] Tom Watson UK MP believe software patent laws should be reformed to reflect the needs of citizens in the Internet age: http://ur1.ca/ur24Apr 12 20:59
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schestowitzI want maaa khtml baack... *cries*Apr 12 21:00
MinceRi want the IT industry backApr 12 21:01
schestowitzThe term "IT" is degradingApr 12 21:03
schestowitzLeave computer to the expertApr 12 21:03
schestowitz[Microsoft]Apr 12 21:04
schestowitzDeal with "information", like paperworkApr 12 21:04
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] RT @zoobab Tom Watson UK MP believe software patent laws should be reformed: http://ur1.ca/ur24Apr 12 21:04
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MinceRdo you have a better term?Apr 12 21:05
MinceRdoes the term "informatics" really exist in english? :>Apr 12 21:05
schestowitzYeahApr 12 21:06
schestowitzWe have departments named thatApr 12 21:06
schestowitzIT=ignorant toolsApr 12 21:06
schestowitzThey learn how to 'operate' WordApr 12 21:06
DaemonFChmmm, the manual suggests the sky will fall in if you don't grease things it tells you to greaseApr 12 21:07
DaemonFCand the only things it says to grease are the seat tube and the threading for the pedalsApr 12 21:08
DaemonFCreplacement pedals, like $10, boohooApr 12 21:08
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Why do I feel like this is going to be a science project that ends up taking a week with parts left over?Apr 12 21:09
schestowitzDaemonFC: scientes got a set tooApr 12 21:09
DaemonFCnah, it really doesn't look like assembly will be too badApr 12 21:10
*schestowitz listens to Katie_Melua_-_Nine_Million_BicyclesApr 12 21:10
DaemonFC"It is vital to your safety that you understand and properly secure this lever!"Apr 12 21:10
DaemonFCreferring to the one that keeps the seat position locked B-)Apr 12 21:11
DaemonFC"You don't even want to know what the x-rays will look like if you don't secure this lever and get impaled!"Apr 12 21:12
DaemonFCThat would do better at getting attentionApr 12 21:12
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] “Gates has created a huge blood-buying operation that only cares about money, not about people.” ~AIDS org. mgr. @odaynasser @Bashar_KokashApr 12 21:14
satiperamy suggestion for the apple part of the website is "inside apple" the logo is half an apple with a worm in it :)  gets the message across that all is not wellApr 12 21:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Sure you don't. You've been totally indoctrinated already. I feel sorry for you. @Bashar_KokashApr 12 21:15
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] So an #MVP who claims to "love open source and provide code" champions C# / Silverlight and thinks the #FSF "Windows 7 sins" is hatred.....Apr 12 21:16
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Yep that #MVP is great for the FOSS community ;) ... thats me convinced...MS loves the FOSS!...back in reality.....Apr 12 21:17
MinceRschestowitz: i had the impression that IT was equivalent with informatics, the latter being a more germanic term, both meaning the broadest field of science/engineering/etc. dealing with computersApr 12 21:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] I think I'll flush my head down the toilet, things may make sense then.....Ive really heard it all now. Got to love those pesky #MVPApr 12 21:18
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] "Give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, give him an #MVP title and he'll shill for life" #microsoft #windows #failApr 12 21:21
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[schestowitz] #Google will discriminate against countries with slow Internet http://ur1.ca/unptApr 12 21:21
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] Being a total hypocrite is essential for being an #MVP (Most Valuable Hypocrite, get it?)@_GoblinApr 12 21:22
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @Omar_S_Hafez at least when they display their #MVP branding you get an early warning of what to come. They havent let me down yet.Apr 12 21:24
DaemonFCschestowitz: The batteries for these things are selling like crazyApr 12 21:26
DaemonFCI picked up the last one Amazon hadApr 12 21:26
DaemonFCeven the Currie store doesn't have themApr 12 21:26
DaemonFCI called and the guy said "We hope to have more in by the end of the month"Apr 12 21:26
DaemonFCso I hurried and bought one so I have two batteries. They can "hope they get more by the end of the month" and I don't have to care until the middle of next year :DApr 12 21:27
schestowitzhttp://techcrunch.com/2010/04/07/google-testing-google-voice-desktop-app-internally/Apr 12 21:31
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[omar_s_hafez] @_Goblin Oh, and they won't. You can trust me with this. :-)Apr 12 21:37
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] People Of The Internet! 9:15am Thursday, 4th April 2010, I am keynoting the MySQL Conference in Santa Clara - http://oreil.ly/aB8d5U #mysqlApr 12 21:42
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-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] Listening to Ep01 of Space Force. A really great radio drama!Apr 12 21:47
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[_goblin] @jonobacon Sorry, I don't have a time machine so I won't be able to make the conference on the 4th April. ;)Apr 12 21:58
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[jonobacon] G'damn it, I mistakingly tweeted the wrong date - my MySQL Conference keynote is on Thu 15th April at 9.15am :-) #mysqlApr 12 22:00
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-czwy6UPvRsApr 12 22:02
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxDopnyNgcs&feature=watch_response_revApr 12 22:11
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DaemonFCB-)Apr 12 22:11
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRdXasJ6S18&feature=channelApr 12 22:17
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DaemonFClolApr 12 22:17
DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beFj5K_0uegApr 12 22:24
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- George Carlin swears on the bible .::. Size~: 64.27 KBApr 12 22:24
schestowitzDaemonFC: your mate Ventura gets it here: Apr 12 22:32
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=impnwC9LRFQApr 12 22:32
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schestowitzDaemonFC: you lied under oath?Apr 12 22:32
DaemonFCschestowitz: No.Apr 12 22:33
DaemonFCI lied under affirmationApr 12 22:34
DaemonFC:)Apr 12 22:34
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/28240705#notice-28287398 "@schestowitz YouTube on a slow connection? Not that Google will discriminate against itself..."Apr 12 22:35
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DaemonFCschestowitz: Indiana has pretty much eliminated the references to God or the bibleApr 12 22:35
DaemonFC"Raise your right hand." "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?"Apr 12 22:36
DaemonFCI opted for "Do you affirm to tell the truth"Apr 12 22:36
DaemonFC*shrugs*Apr 12 22:36
DaemonFCyou have to get pretty far south for them to still take the God and Bible references seriousApr 12 22:37
DaemonFClike it's going to stop someone from lying in court thereApr 12 22:37
schestowitzI think if you to watch the full Carlin videoApr 12 22:37
schestowitzIn the skit he talks about itApr 12 22:37
*WireWulf-away is now known as WireWulfApr 12 22:37
schestowitzIf you question a criminal who resorts to crime, would s/he *GASP* lie?Apr 12 22:38
schestowitz"Sure, sure.... I just killed 100 people  but WHOA!! I can't lie in God's name"Apr 12 22:38
MinceRnot if his soul could go to hell for lying under oath on the Bible! ...oh, waitApr 12 22:38
schestowitzHell for eternityApr 12 22:39
schestowitz"Infinity does not exist in nature though, yo' honour!"Apr 12 22:39
MinceRlolApr 12 22:39
*WireWulf is now known as WireWulf-awayApr 12 22:40
schestowitzSentence to Life^{googolplex}Apr 12 22:43
schestowitzWould that be {20^{{100}^{100}}?Apr 12 22:45
schestowitzYou'd be one tiny wrinkle by the time you exit jailApr 12 22:45
schestowitzMinceR: was that you on the electric bike?Apr 12 22:46
MinceRnope, it was DaemonFC Apr 12 22:46
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[ruiseabra] Damn... after so many nice days of Sun with warm and cozy weather, there's lot's of rain comin' right for us until at least Sunday. *sucks*Apr 12 22:50
schestowitzhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gAeYxgwuSoApr 12 23:05
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Diablo-D3http://images.4chan.org/m/src/1271083360021.jpgApr 12 23:07
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Diablo-D3lol japanApr 12 23:08
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Diablo-D3lol americaApr 12 23:10
MinceR"...In America!"Apr 12 23:13
DaemonFCWho, huh?Apr 12 23:16
DaemonFCThat guy in Arizona? No that's not me.Apr 12 23:16
DaemonFCI've never been to Arizona Apr 12 23:17
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Takyojihttp://newteevee.com/2010/04/12/google-to-open-source-vp8-for-html5-video/Apr 12 23:21
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MinceRwowApr 12 23:22
MinceRwhat's its status regarding patents?Apr 12 23:22
-BNi/#boycottnovell-[diablod3/@diablod3] Scientists finally figure out how to make cheap hydrogen for fuel cells http://ur1.ca/urjo !scienceApr 12 23:23
TechrightsBotTitle: MIT Researchers Harness Viruses to Turn Water Into Hydrogen Fuel | Inhabitat - Green Design Will Save the World .::. Size~: 70.76 KBApr 12 23:23
DaemonFChttp://digg.com/arts_culture/Will_K3_Fake_Weed_Get_You_High_The_Pitch_smokes_up_er_prodApr 12 23:25
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DaemonFChmmmmApr 12 23:25
DaemonFC"Why do we need to try and make fake weed? It naturally grows out of the ***** ground."Apr 12 23:25
DaemonFClulzApr 12 23:25
DaemonFCthe government is doing more damage by keeping marijuana illegalApr 12 23:26
MinceRbecause we can!Apr 12 23:26
DaemonFCpeople smoke this other stuff and who knows what it is? :PApr 12 23:26
DaemonFCmarijuana has never killed anyoneApr 12 23:27
DaemonFC"You'd think they could filter all the stems out of packaged fake bud." lulzApr 12 23:28
DaemonFCthat's the worst part, when you take a drag and the flame hits a seedApr 12 23:28
DaemonFC:PApr 12 23:28
DaemonFC*cough cough* not that I would knowApr 12 23:29
DaemonFC:PApr 12 23:29
schestowitzWow. Both Apple and Google give Flash the boot?Apr 12 23:32
DaemonFChmmmm, this is neatApr 12 23:34
DaemonFCif the doctor put me back on Abilify, which retails for $458 a month....Apr 12 23:34
DaemonFCI would pay $6.90 a month for itApr 12 23:34
DaemonFCand $4 a month if I use the mail in pharmacy and get a 90 day supply :PApr 12 23:34
DaemonFCI won't go back on that, ever. I was running it through as kind of an example to see what could happen with each plan if I had to go on something ridiculously expensive :)Apr 12 23:35
schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/28190283#notice-28296049 "@schestowitz "we'll cure aids if you kill gnu/linux." gotta love the gates foundation, one hand giveth relief, the other taketh away"Apr 12 23:39
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DaemonFChttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwZLhqDEnSoApr 12 23:39
TechrightsBotTitle: YouTube- Medvedev interviewed by ABC's Stephanopoulos .::. Size~: 85.79 KBApr 12 23:39
schestowitz"Microsoft and its employees now think it is indeed the Master of the Universe." -Stewart Alsop, FortuneApr 12 23:40
DaemonFC"missile defense" doesn't work. It encourages an arms race. That's why we gave it up in the Cold War.Apr 12 23:42
schestowitztessier_: are you available?Apr 12 23:42
-BNtwitter/#boycottnovell-[qu1j0t3] #KFC "Double Down" reviewed in #Salon as "#food"-subhead "restaurant culture" (!!). "Business" or "environment",surely? http://bit.ly/dB1KofApr 12 23:43
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schestowitzDaemonFC: missile defense doesn't workApr 12 23:43
DaemonFCThey'll just build more missiles to get past our interceptors, or more MIRVed warheadsApr 12 23:43
schestowitzYou overwhelm it with targetsApr 12 23:43
DaemonFCsome are decoys maybeApr 12 23:43
schestowitzSimple. AWOL.Apr 12 23:43
DaemonFCnot real warheadsApr 12 23:43
schestowitz'Blanks'Apr 12 23:43
DaemonFCour interceptors wouldn't know the difference between targeting a dummy or a live warheadApr 12 23:43
schestowitzIn the sense that they are hallow fireworksApr 12 23:43
schestowitz*hollowApr 12 23:43
cubezzzwhat about the money spent on "Star Wars"Apr 12 23:44
cubezzzor developing "killsats"Apr 12 23:44
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DaemonFCthe better approach is to try and scale back our offensive weaponry as this treaty doesApr 12 23:44
cubezzztotal waste of moneyApr 12 23:44
DaemonFCcubezzz: Not reallyApr 12 23:44
DaemonFCnew technologies emerge from projects like these which have other usesApr 12 23:45
DaemonFCit's a very high price to pay for research that ends up best used in another field thoughApr 12 23:45
schestowitzGood   Medvedev videoApr 12 23:45
cubezzzyeah and going to the moon was really "useful" too :)Apr 12 23:45
cubezzz"well it's a big rock"Apr 12 23:45
cubezzz"roger that"Apr 12 23:45
schestowitzhe makes Bush look like a villainApr 12 23:45
schestowitzLA incidentApr 12 23:46
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cubezzz"here have some tang"Apr 12 23:46
schestowitzhttp://skeptoid.com/episodes/4171Apr 12 23:46
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DaemonFCor teflonApr 12 23:46
DaemonFChow many uses does teflon have?Apr 12 23:46
DaemonFCit's used in everything from cookware to car parts nowApr 12 23:46
cubezzzwe're moving away from teflon pansApr 12 23:46
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cubezzzthe telfon comes offApr 12 23:46
schestowitzTeflon became NASA propagandaApr 12 23:47
schestowitz"Help fund the space programma, NASA will help you cook with less washing"Apr 12 23:47
cubezzzbut at least we have tang still :)Apr 12 23:47
schestowitz*mmeApr 12 23:47
cubezzzI'm re-reading my computer history Apr 12 23:47
cubezzzand boy did Commodore mess up big timeApr 12 23:48
cubezzzlots of good ideas thoughApr 12 23:48
schestowitzRemember openmoko?Apr 12 23:49
schestowitzhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&rlz=1B5GGGL_enGB315GB316&q=site%3Aschestowitz.com+openmoko&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=Apr 12 23:49
TechrightsBotTitle: site:schestowitz.com openmoko - Google Search .::. Size~: 24.77 KBApr 12 23:49
cubezzzactually yesApr 12 23:49
cubezzznot that long ago we did register level programming for PC video cardsApr 12 23:50
cubezzzpeople forget stuff like thatApr 12 23:50
DaemonFCRon White on NASA spending millions of dollars to find out if sending women with PMS into space posed any dangers.....Apr 12 23:50
DaemonFC"Yeah, in space the PSYCHO BITCHES can FLY!!!"Apr 12 23:50
DaemonFC:)Apr 12 23:50
cubezzzI think openmoko died thoughApr 12 23:51
cubezzzkind of like the zaurus, it just petered outApr 12 23:51
cubezzzbut you folks probably don't remember the way things used to be in the Amiga eraApr 12 23:52
cubezzzI'll give you a taste of it:Apr 12 23:52
cubezzzAmiga Hardware Reference Manual Addison-Wesley , 1991. ISBN 0-201-56776-8Apr 12 23:52
cubezzzeverything documented!Apr 12 23:52
cubezzzwhere's the zaurus hardware book eh?Apr 12 23:53
cubezzzdoesn't existApr 12 23:53
cubezzzwhere's the printer codes? the scanner protocol?Apr 12 23:53
cubezzzprobably Sun was the most open after Commodore but...Apr 12 23:54
cubezzzwhat's going to happen with Sun now?Apr 12 23:54
cubezzzanother problem was Amiga 3000 and 4000 were really expensiveApr 12 23:55
cubezzzyoung people back then couldn't afford it at the timeApr 12 23:55
cubezzzhow expensive? Well over 3 grandApr 12 23:59

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