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balroggnufreex: if you need the 3-pin mini-DIN stereo connector for 3D glasses, that doesn't helpAug 30 00:00
balrogotherwise, yes it worksAug 30 00:00
schestowitzcubevector: http://www.pcworld.com/article/203825/frankenpc.html?tk=rss_newsAug 30 00:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Lab Leftovers: Speed-Testing an 11-Year-Old PC - PCWorld .::. Size~: 77.16 KBAug 30 00:03
cubevectorwhy put windows 7 on 1999 hardware?Aug 30 00:06
cubevectorughAug 30 00:06
cubevectorthose guys really can be seriousAug 30 00:10
gnufreexI just now watched AMD video from avove link. Sad that AMD had to sell its fabs just to stay in bussines.Aug 30 00:10
cubevectorcan't beAug 30 00:10
cubevectoryikes, if AMD goes under we are in troubleAug 30 00:10
cubevectorIntel will take over everythingAug 30 00:10
gnufreexAMD didn't make profit since 2006Aug 30 00:12
gnufreexAnd it probably won't any time soonAug 30 00:12
gnufreexThey only money they made is from Intel settlementAug 30 00:13
gnufreex1.25BnAug 30 00:13
cubevectorthat's still a lotAug 30 00:13
gnufreexThat is a joke compared how Intel crippled themAug 30 00:13
cubevectorI guess intel stills makes tons of money?Aug 30 00:13
Viper550This has nothing to do with OSS primaraly, but the new owners of something can even screw up propiatary software too http://vbtruth.com/Aug 30 00:13
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gnufreexIntel makes tens of bilions per yearAug 30 00:13
gnufreexIn fact, last year Intel made 4.35 bn of pure profit.Aug 30 00:15
gnufreexIf they didn't pay AMD, it would be 5.711 billionAug 30 00:16
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Support strong regulation of coal ash disposal http://ur1.ca/1cz9jAug 30 00:22
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @slfisher: Older Men Discriminated Against, But Women Just Suck: http://is.gd/eKtInAug 30 00:30
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @wftl: RT @GuardianBooks 3rd edition of OED unlikely to appear in print; "the print market is just disappearing" http://bit.ly/cIQtcDAug 30 00:30
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Network Neutrality Is Law In Chile http://bit.ly/d1HQlmAug 30 00:30
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TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Third edition of OED unlikely to appear in print format | Books | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 72.1 KBAug 30 00:30
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @sjvn @wftl @GuardianBooks 3rd edition of OED unlikely to appear in print; "the print market is just disappearing" http://bit.ly/cIQtcDAug 30 00:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Third edition of OED unlikely to appear in print format | Books | The Guardian  .::. Size~: 72.21 KBAug 30 00:35
cubevectorhttp://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1405.htmlAug 30 00:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The Joy of Tech comic... A field guide to WiFi users at Starbucks. .::. Size~: 20.87 KBAug 30 00:37
schestowitzhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11108709Aug 30 00:37
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schestowitzWindows?Aug 30 00:37
schestowitzhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/8949756.stmAug 30 00:38
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schestowitz*LOL* [NSFW]Aug 30 00:39
schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/27/50_cent_twitpic/Aug 30 00:40
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/27/powerpoint_colonel_busted/Aug 30 00:41
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balrogif AMD can net a deal with Apple, they could make some profitAug 30 00:41
balrogis that possible? I don't know, but Intel's chipset licensing is not in anyone's best interestAug 30 00:41
balrogthere's not enough board space in the smaller computers to put a dedicated GPU, and Intel's IGP/IPG sucksAug 30 00:42
gnufreexApple makes classy crap.Aug 30 00:42
gnufreexIf they put AMD, they are el cheepoAug 30 00:42
balrogdependsAug 30 00:42
gnufreexThey want Intel marketing muscleAug 30 00:42
balrogAMD+a nice GPU is better than Core i5 with horrible GPUAug 30 00:42
balrogdon't you think?Aug 30 00:42
gnufreexAMD had better and cheaper chips from 2001 until 2006Aug 30 00:43
gnufreexFaster and cheeper.Aug 30 00:43
balrogyesAug 30 00:44
gnufreexAnd they got shuned by the OEMsAug 30 00:44
balrogbecause Intel got tied up over PrescottAug 30 00:44
balrogthat was due to briberyAug 30 00:44
gnufreexYes, bribery.Aug 30 00:44
gnufreexAnd marketingAug 30 00:44
schestowitzHeheAug 30 00:44
schestowitz"Marketing"Aug 30 00:44
schestowitzMicrosoft called bribery "marketing help"Aug 30 00:44
gnufreexIntel dished lots of dirt on competition.Aug 30 00:45
gnufreexFUDed how AMD are chips for hackersAug 30 00:45
gnufreexand how AMD can't be completely compatible with IntelAug 30 00:45
gnufreexBecause patented MMX and suchAug 30 00:45
gnufreexSo your computer will blow up due to incompatiblityAug 30 00:45
gnufreexAnd 3Dnow! makes problems...Aug 30 00:46
gnufreexSuch thing of crapAug 30 00:46
gnufreexSo it is not all by the OEMsAug 30 00:46
gnufreexMost of compuers in my country (Serbia) is build from parts.Aug 30 00:46
gnufreexNobody buys DellAug 30 00:47
gnufreexand such thingsAug 30 00:47
gnufreexall builtAug 30 00:47
gnufreexby PC shopsAug 30 00:47
gnufreexAnd they all prefer IntelAug 30 00:47
cubevectorhmmmAug 30 00:47
gnufreexSome never sell AMDAug 30 00:47
cubevectorI was thinking building a VIA computerAug 30 00:47
gnufreexuntil customer asks specificalyAug 30 00:47
balrogyou mean as in VIA chipsets?Aug 30 00:47
balrogthey suckAug 30 00:47
gnufreexbecause Intel is "safer"Aug 30 00:47
balrogAMD is not bad at allAug 30 00:47
balroggnufreex: that makes no senseAug 30 00:48
cubevectorhow come balrog?Aug 30 00:48
cubevectorI mean VIA cpuAug 30 00:48
balroghm...Aug 30 00:48
balrogI like ARMAug 30 00:48
balrogBeagleBoard + some additional hardware makes a nice computerAug 30 00:48
balrog;pAug 30 00:48
gnufreexbalrog: what makes no sense?Aug 30 00:49
balrog19:47 < gnufreex> because Intel is "safer"Aug 30 00:49
gnufreexOh that... I know. It makes no senseAug 30 00:49
gnufreexBut that is what people thinkAug 30 00:49
balrogit's stupidAug 30 00:49
balrogthe main reason I use intel is because at this time AMD performance isn't enoughAug 30 00:50
balrogI also have an ARM sheevaplugAug 30 00:50
balrogdon't need performance thereAug 30 00:50
balrogjust really low power useageAug 30 00:50
balrogusage *Aug 30 00:50
gnufreexSame with me, I use Intel because Phenom 9950 sucked.Aug 30 00:50
gnufreexAnd had TPB bugAug 30 00:50
gnufreexTLBAug 30 00:50
balrogughAug 30 00:51
balrogARM is niceAug 30 00:51
schestowitzTh Pirate Bay bugggggggg :-)Aug 30 00:51
balrogI love my sheevaplug :)Aug 30 00:51
balrogvery VERY low power usageAug 30 00:52
balrogno binary blobsAug 30 00:52
balrogthe only proprietart software I have is unrarAug 30 00:52
gnufreexSo, maybe people say that Intel is safer because first Phenom had TLB bug. Except that they were singing same tune even before that.Aug 30 00:52
balrogproprietary *Aug 30 00:52
balroggnufreex: again, makes no senseAug 30 00:52
balrogand don't forget the intel pentium bugAug 30 00:52
gnufreexYesAug 30 00:52
balroghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bugAug 30 00:53
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gnufreexIt couldn't even count properlyAug 30 00:53
balrogyupAug 30 00:53
balrogso I hear infineon is being purchased by intelAug 30 00:54
balroginfineon makes basebands in many phones, including the iphone and plenty of GSM/UMTS android phonesAug 30 00:54
gnufreexyup, you would think Intel has enough fabs already... (and AMD has none)Aug 30 00:54
-TRT/#techrights-[davidgerard] NewsTechnica: Wikileaks reveals that Snape killed Dumbledore http://newstechnica.com/?p=2403Aug 30 00:55
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gnufreexTexas Instruments jumped out of chip manufacturing bussines... they are only designing ARM chips now.Aug 30 00:55
balrogbut they design pretty good ARM chipsAug 30 00:56
gnufreexTI was making Sun's UltraSPARCAug 30 00:56
gnufreexIt looks like manufacturing will be Intel vs TSMCAug 30 00:57
gnufreexIntel manufactures only it's own chipsAug 30 00:57
gnufreexso if you want to make chips, TSMC is monopolyAug 30 00:57
gnufreexAnd they proved to be incompetent alreadyAug 30 00:57
balrog:[Aug 30 00:58
gnufreexTSMC blowed 40nm proces and throwed NVIDIA in hard situation.Aug 30 00:59
gnufreexLess than 10% of workable FermisAug 30 00:59
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gnufreex*FermiesAug 30 00:59
balrogwho is nvidia working with now?Aug 30 01:00
gnufreexTSMCAug 30 01:00
gnufreexThey have no choiceAug 30 01:00
gnufreexIn fact, only other choice are Global Foundries, that is AMD spin offAug 30 01:01
gnufreexBut they do SOI, NVIDIA wants bulk CMOSAug 30 01:01
gnufreexAMD deal with TSMC for their Radeon GPUsAug 30 01:02
gnufreexAll GPUs are done by TSMCAug 30 01:03
gnufreexgnAug 30 01:06
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[schestowitz/@schestowitz] Links 29/8/2010: !GNU !Linux Jobs, #Archos 7 http://techrights.org/2010/08/29/jobs-demand-linux/ !techrightsAug 30 01:12
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 29/8/2010: #GNU #Linux Jobs, #Archos 7 http://techrights.org/2010/08/29/jobs-demand-linux/ #techrightsAug 30 01:30
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] http://tinyogg.com/watch/YSuSV/ They're misrepresenting !freesoftware history in a foolish way. !gnuAug 30 01:52
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Final scores: #Dodgers 5, Rockies 10; Orioles 1, #Angels 0. #LABaseball #DontLoseHopeAug 30 02:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Parsons won best comedic actor at #Emmys. Playing a believable geek & still being funny to geeks is tough; he does it successfully #Big_BangAug 30 02:12
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Fallon parodies "Good Riddance" on #Emmys re: #Lost: "The island was mystical,but in the end they died. I didn't understand it, but I tried"Aug 30 02:32
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @grantbow: Working in #SanFrancisco today sponsoring @partimus public middle school efforts. #linux #ubuntu #educationAug 30 03:30
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Sorting Algorithm Breaks Giga-Sort Barrier, With GPUs http://bit.ly/aB6OD2Aug 30 03:30
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-TRT/#techrights-[_the_mad_hatter] The Beautiful And Talented Janis Ian – The Internet Debacle:An Alternative View http://bit.ly/cmIFFpAug 30 04:30
-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] Thx to @grantbow, Anthony Riley & John Strazzarino 4 helping us install GNU-Linux on 7 machines in 2 classrooms today!Aug 30 04:30
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-TRT/#techrights-[tracyrreed] http://i.imgur.com/ZI4zX.jpg Homeland security fighting terrorism since 1492.Aug 30 04:34
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-TRT/#techrights-[_the_mad_hatter] The Beautiful And Talented Janis Ian – Fallout: A Follow Up To The Internet Debacle http://bit.ly/ahUvskAug 30 04:37
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Urgent: Turn off Faux http://ur1.ca/1dc28Aug 30 05:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Software Freedom Day in Singapore this September 18 2010. Participate and learn! http://softwarefreedomday.sg/ #fbAug 30 05:27
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] RT @slackadjuster WHAT ? RT @GoGoHubbit: I slept through the alarm this morning. Good thing it was only a small fire. // #LOLAug 30 05:30
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Time to build a UUCP-dialup network in time for projected 2012 solar flare disruption - http://ur1.ca/1dcc2 #fbAug 30 05:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Love to understand the math behind this - http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/kepler/news/two_planet_orbit.htmlAug 30 05:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Proof people really are #douchebags http://ur1.ca/1dd6pAug 30 05:57
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Al Shabab announces final offensive http://ur1.ca/1de6iAug 30 06:27
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] iPhone App In App Store Limbo Open Sourced http://bit.ly/d02A4BAug 30 06:34
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-TRT/#techrights-[_the_mad_hatter] Corporate Copyright Scofflaws 0006 – The RIAA Member Companies http://bit.ly/b8YYBeAug 30 06:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] I'm dropping off... gotta get some sleep before i face plant on the keys.Aug 30 06:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Coffee production threatened by global heating http://ur1.ca/1dgacAug 30 07:27
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Come and join the Severed Fifth Chat Channel - instructions and web access on http://soc.li/2dpYrEa #severedfifthAug 30 07:34
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schestowitzMinceR: http://www.groklaw.net/newsitems.php?page=3Aug 30 07:39
schestowitz"Aug 30 07:39
schestowitz    * Transcript: Andrew Tridgell on Patent DefenceAug 30 07:39
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schestowitz    * Wednesday, August 25 2010 @ 12:16 PM EDTAug 30 07:39
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schestowitzre: "Steve Jobs Is Watching You: Apple Seeking to Patent Spyware"Aug 30 07:40
schestowitz"[PJ: In fairness, the patent was applied for back in February of 2009, prior to the change by the Copyright Office.]"Aug 30 07:40
schestowitzApologising for AppleAug 30 07:40
MinceR:>Aug 30 07:40
MinceRwhat was that "change" anyway?Aug 30 07:44
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] Severed Fifth Community CD Labels - awesome work going on! http://is.gd/eL1Sq #severedfifthAug 30 07:46
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schestowitzNo changeAug 30 07:52
schestowitzNo change "we can believe in"Aug 30 07:52
schestowitzhttp://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/consumer-electronics/portable-devices/google-goggles-does-not-do-face-recognitionAug 30 07:55
-TRT/#techrights-[anivar] Reetika Khera questioning credibility of the #UIDAI’s claims in #NREGA & #PDS http://bit.ly/cgjDvJ #uid #socialpolicyAug 30 07:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[anivar] Reetika Khera questioning credibility of the #UIDAI’s claims in #NREGA & #PDS http://bit.ly/cgjDvJ #uid #socialpolicyAug 30 07:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Kudos to Straits Times in publishing this - http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/Story/STIStory_572473.html. Will LKY reply? #fbAug 30 07:57
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schestowitzMinceR: it does promote this: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ibm-and-eu-partner-to-enable-the-digitization-of-historic-european-texts-on-a-massive-scale-101442829.htmlAug 30 08:01
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schestowitz"Reverb and Ms Snitker are also barred from making any similar endorsement without full disclosure. There were no monetary penalties. "Aug 30 08:09
schestowitzhttp://www.dailyfinance.com/story/taxes/california-company-settles-charges-of-false-itunes-reviews/19610703/Aug 30 08:09
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schestowitzwth?Aug 30 08:09
schestowitzSo they AstroTurf and no punishment?Aug 30 08:09
schestowitzI think they just got free publicityAug 30 08:09
schestowitzShame on FTXCAug 30 08:09
schestowitz*FTCAug 30 08:09
schestowitzhttp://lawpundit.blogspot.com/2010/08/ultimate-patent-troll-george-selden.htmlAug 30 08:23
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Bernanke admits Federal Reserve can't prevent downturn http://ur1.ca/1di9mAug 30 08:27
schestowitzhttp://nighthacks.com/roller/jag/entry/let_larry_know_you_care :-)Aug 30 08:28
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-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] ♺ @severedfifth: Want to help with a Severed Fifth Fanzine? http://soc.li/c8zclmi #severedfifthAug 30 08:32
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] I was just reading about OSH (open Source Hardware) licensing. Which licence do you prefer @bkuhn @kaz !sflc ?Aug 30 08:32
-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] 10 Best Hacker Movies (Films about Computer Hacking) of All Time: Tech Source: "As a certified geek, it is always ... http://bit.ly/a1aC8SAug 30 08:39
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schestowitzhttp://pogson.6k.ca/2010/08/29/the-cost-of-being-a-m-shop/ "VirtualBox and KVM cost $0 for the server licence and the hypervisor included. Users of GNU/Linux also save a bundle on re-re-reboots that are killing some in large deployments of that other OS."Aug 30 08:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] Microsoft's Security Development Lifecycle now under Creative Commons License: http://bit.ly/dzXWFl - so what? Needs AgLight. FAIL! #fbAug 30 09:22
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] USISB: Torture is not useful for intelligence gathering http://ur1.ca/1djxaAug 30 09:27
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] First It Was Yahoo! and Now It’s #AOL http://techrights.org/2010/08/30/aol-entryism-theory/ Microsoft’s apparent AOL entryism is recalledAug 30 09:33
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] We're starting this page about Interval http://ur1.ca/1dkbd patent troll, owned by Paul Allen, Microsoft's co-founder #swpatsAug 30 09:40
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tessierschestowitz: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Novell-sees-decline-in-revenues-and-profits-1068275.htmlAug 30 09:41
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tessierDunno if you've seen that one yet.Aug 30 09:41
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz We're starting this page about Interval http://ur1.ca/1dkbd patent troll, owned by Paul Allen, Microsoft's co-founder # ...Aug 30 09:47
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Recommendations for a native OS Twitter client that supports oauth for Linux : linux http://ow.ly/2wB04Aug 30 09:52
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Amid “Disappointing” Sales of #Microsoft Office, #Facebook Jumps to Microsoft’s Rescue http://ur1.ca/1dkgl #odf #ooxmlAug 30 09:53
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-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Many European, Asian and Australian equivalents of US patents #Apple #Oracle and Paul Allen are suing over http://bit.ly/9MshzLAug 30 09:54
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Hackers Eavesdrop On Quantum Crypto With Lasers http://bit.ly/bunXYGAug 30 09:55
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rms/@rms] Assange still under investigation http://ur1.ca/1dl0yAug 30 10:27
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Takeover of #Novell Seen as “Less Likely” by S&P Analyst http://ur1.ca/1dkpa Standard & Poor’s analyst Jim Yin believes soAug 30 10:33
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-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] I wish one day I will attend #svgopenAug 30 10:55
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] 3,000 Articles on BlenderNation! - http://www.blendernation.com/2010/08/28/3000-articles-on-blendernation/Aug 30 11:00
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Entertainment Industry Propaganda Campaign Against Limewire Fails; FTC Drops ID Fraud Investigation http://dlvr.it/4Rj3XAug 30 11:33
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Hurryyyyy Echofon is working on Firefox 4 beta 4.Aug 30 11:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft Uses “Half-naked” Women (‘Meter Maids’) to Promote Its Products http://ur1.ca/1dlzk #WaggenerEdstrom #prAug 30 11:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[bkuhn/@bkuhn] Finally, I'm at a reasonable #waketime. 05:40 today. Tomorrow has to be 04:00 so I should be able to stick in this range for the entire weekAug 30 11:42
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] ICTs & Urban Microenterprises: IDRC Research Report #ICT4D #IITD http://tinyurl.com/ictmicro http://tinyurl.com/2dlo73g #blogAug 30 11:43
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oiaohmI really find it funny.,  schestowitz  http://www.metermaids.com/gallery/index.php  << Yes that is gold coast meter maids in uniform.Aug 30 11:51
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schestowitzHeh. You got me distractedAug 30 11:52
oiaohmThere is every chance they turned up in there work uniform.  I guess MS forgot to ask for formal dress.Aug 30 11:52
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] LOL Patent on patent process itself. USPTO is fool RT: @pradeepto: I say this is *the* Best Patent Evah! http://bit.ly/dxixAK #patentAug 30 11:52
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oiaohmhttp://www.metermaids.com/history.htm  The history is a really good read schestowitzAug 30 11:54
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oiaohmWhat just happened to MS could have happened to anyone not careful hiring the meter maids.  schestowitzAug 30 11:55
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Faking 'Leaks', This Time for #Halo and for Internet Explorer http://ur1.ca/1dnlg #msie #pr #liesAug 30 11:59
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oiaohmThink about it schestowitz when else do you get the chance to give links to interesting pictures.   Other than when MS screws up in Australia.  schestowitzAug 30 12:01
oiaohmI know of no other meter maids in the world with such a light on uniform.,Aug 30 12:01
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Gosling: Java ME's fragmentation was far worse than we would have liked. http://nighthacks.org/roller/jag/entry/some_more_commentsAug 30 12:01
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oiaohmschestowitz: the jailbreak case is a little more complex.    If they win Sony will be forbin from taking counter actions against them.Aug 30 12:32
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oiaohmBig thing sony will be looking for is copyright infringement in the process of making the jail break.Aug 30 12:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Wenn SH-Parlament Rückgrat hätte, würden sie sich jetzt selbst auflösen. Aber es gewinnt wohl wieder mal Bequemlichkeit. #FAILAug 30 12:33
schestowitzoiaohm: just a secondAug 30 12:40
schestowitzI'm doing some posts ATMAug 30 12:40
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] #ACTA includes language for internet patents infringement http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=553&Itemid=9Aug 30 12:43
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Apple #Corruption and Meltdown in Asia http://techrights.org/2010/08/30/hypepod-meltdown-japan/ #japan #china #hypeAug 30 12:48
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-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] Another day, another Apple advert, as mentioned int he comments http://bit.ly/b3GkmjAug 30 12:59
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] It's Official — AMD Will Retire the ATI Brand http://bit.ly/9SgZQ9Aug 30 13:01
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-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] #Gates Foundation invests in #Monsanto and #Sachs http://www.ip-watch.org/weblog/ip-burble/?burble=12215#post-12215Aug 30 13:33
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Blogger Accuses Bill Gates of Bribery http://ur1.ca/1dris #education #policy #lobbying by @BillGatesAug 30 13:41
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Rails 3.0 Released http://bit.ly/bMS349Aug 30 13:49
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Judge Considering Innocent Infringement Provision For Cat Blogger Sued By Righthaven http://dlvr.it/4RzPRAug 30 13:50
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Uau, Flash bota o consumo de CPU em 70%. Puxa Adobe, ainda não acertaram a mão.Aug 30 14:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] wow, Flash eats up CPU up to 70%. Damn Adobe, did not Flash Linux right yet. :-)Aug 30 14:12
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Gates Foundation Slammed by the Seattle-based Community Alliance for Global Justice, Accused of Harming Africans http://ur1.ca/1dsooAug 30 14:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Migrating from Lotus Notes to MS Exchange in white house == millions of emails lost. http://is.gd/eLwIZ #fail #transparencyAug 30 14:33
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-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Canada Revenue Agency cracks down on eBay seller - fine of $68K for unreported sales. http://bit.ly/d3ULsRAug 30 14:35
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-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Retargeting Ads Stalk You For Weeks After You Shop http://bit.ly/desSfYAug 30 14:39
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] How long before Palin labels #google "elitist, unAmerican", calls for conservative search engine? "LiberalSearch Off"Aug 30 14:54
-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] Why Paul Allen doesn't want to be a #patent troll http://bit.ly/bCql2h It's also about the right to obtain an injunction.Aug 30 14:55
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-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] The power of the web OS http://technorati.com/technology/article/the-power-of-the-web-and/Aug 30 15:01
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[ender2070/@ender2070] Oracle and Apple have public ties now - http://www.pwnage.ca/?p=912Aug 30 15:12
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oiaohmBy the way the Iron Man 2 poster is worth more.Aug 30 15:20
oiaohmYes real value its worth more.Aug 30 15:21
oiaohmhttp://durian.blender.org/production/nearly-finished/Aug 30 15:26
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Durian Open Movie Project  » Blog Archive   » Nearly finished! .::. Size~: 28.23 KBAug 30 15:26
oiaohmSomethings turn up odd 888 second runtime for the complete thing.Aug 30 15:26
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[harishpillay/@harishpillay] RT @schestowitz #Microsoft ’s Boosters Continue to Attack !Linux / !Android and Say Microsoft Loves #OpenSource http://ur1.ca/1dvilAug 30 15:32
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-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Wire Report reports that Google, Yahoo, concerned about Bill-C-32 'enabler' provision (sub req'd) http://bit.ly/a2GwjhAug 30 15:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] The document explaining the "lost emails at the white house" whoopsiedaisy is here: http://is.gd/eLAQHAug 30 15:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Shakespeare In Klingon? http://bit.ly/9aHrYZAug 30 15:33
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Redefine open standards, redefine troll, redefine democracy http://bit.ly/bCql2h #trollAug 30 15:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft ’s Boosters Continue to Attack #Linux / #Android and Say Microsoft Loves #OpenSource http://ur1.ca/1dvilAug 30 15:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Freetype Lands In... Microsoft Office? http://bit.ly/ciyHbHAug 30 15:33
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @robmyers Support FooCorp, get a FooPlug! - http://foocorp.net/foovc/Aug 30 15:37
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[mattl/@mattl] RT @robmyers Why is every stereo for sale on eBay in Manchester?Aug 30 15:37
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-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] If we can teach teacher then the task is done #freesoftware #foss #schoolOS #opensource #nextgenAug 30 15:39
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] German Court Says Google May Have To Police Videos On YouTube For Infringement http://dlvr.it/4S9nrAug 30 15:42
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-TRT/#techrights-[einfeldt] RT @NixiePixel: New Video: My Droid Incredible Review on Steroids http://bit.ly/9ynVa6Aug 30 15:55
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @ffii Redefine open standards, redefine troll, redefine democracy http://bit.ly/bCql2h #troll >> #MicrosoftFlorian is a #dotnet #lobbyistAug 30 15:55
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Traditional Offshore Outsourcing on the Skids http://tinyurl.com/2e5lryw by @bakercom1 #offshoring #IT #jobs #careerAug 30 15:56
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @ExpertVoice: Managing Developers 101 by @sjvn http://ow.ly/2vUri Try these suggestions from well-known #PHP developer Luke Welling.Aug 30 15:57
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Upgrading to Windows 7 isn't Cheap http://bit.ly/c1cNbt in the corporate world by @sjvnAug 30 15:58
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] Cancer: to be totally helpless. :(Aug 30 16:32
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] .@mpjamesmoore on priv copying: "As tech changes, levy not an effective mechanism to compensate © creators http://bit.ly/93EytBAug 30 16:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] ♺ @swardley: I just voted for 'Open Source Azure' what do you think? http://uservoice.com/a/efjHw #MicrosoftWindowsAzure #feedback | Done.Aug 30 16:33
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Is it time to ban "ad-stalking" and set up a Web Do-Not-Track list? by @pgralla http://bit.ly/d9c5aZAug 30 16:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Once we fought side by side against #swpat, but now it seems Florian has moved to the dark side. http://is.gd/eLFzNAug 30 16:33
-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] @jwildeboer No dark side. Those defendants want same patent system as plaintiff, and it's important to interpret eBay vs. MercExchange.Aug 30 16:33
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] What does Paul Allen think he's doing!? http://bit.ly/aSlxNf Other than starting a patent World War? Darned if I know.Aug 30 16:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] @FOSSpatents Allen has enough money already, your arument he is looking for "recognition" iis #fail. Why didn't he sue MSFT?Aug 30 16:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Prosecutor Loses Case For Citing Wikipedia http://bit.ly/cvrOcyAug 30 16:33
-TRT/#techrights-[fosspatents] @jwildeboer I connected recognition to not wanting to be called a troll. Re. Microsoft, I don't know. Maybe they did a license deal?Aug 30 16:33
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-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] Conrad Black case targets Internet defamation jurisdiction standard: my weekly column on new ON CA ruling http://bit.ly/bTHx5wAug 30 16:34
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Paul Allen’s Patent Troll Obviously Did Not Sue Microsoft, But Why Did Amazon Get a Free Pass? http://ur1.ca/1dydq #swpats #intervalAug 30 16:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[aseigo/@aseigo] easy to forget in the face of big challenges: communities change because people change: 1 person at a time, making 1 change at a time.Aug 30 17:18
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @publicknowledge Online video providers: competitors or complements to US TV subscription market? http://www.ur1.ca/1dzx4 #netneutralityAug 30 17:22
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Another ISP Fighting US Copyright Group Subpoenas; Why Aren't More ISPs Protecting Your Privacy? http://dlvr.it/4SK9yAug 30 17:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Tech's Dark Secret, It's All About Age http://bit.ly/dnA2fmAug 30 17:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Persönliche Daten sind bei Schlecker also im Sonderangebot zum Dauertiefpreis von 5 EUR http://is.gd/eLKqc #fail #privacyAug 30 17:33
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Three Open Source Ticketing Systems http://is.gd/eLKTa 4 tracking bugs, helpdesk issues, whatever. Handy IT staff/developer stuff.Aug 30 17:33
-TRT/#techrights-[thistleweb] I've almost given up on trying to get third party forums integrated with Drupal. I must be missing something in the instructionsAug 30 17:33
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @IDGagne: A comic strip metaphor for the new Digg: "Repaired is broken." http://www.imgzzz.com/pic/full/1283038646 (HT @sharon000)Aug 30 17:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] One of the Allen patent shas 129 claims. #ridiculous #swpat http://is.gd/eLLRSAug 30 17:33
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Java developers' reaction to Oracle, Google lawsuit http://is.gd/eIm5X #Java #Oracle #GoogleAug 30 17:36
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Arresting people for exposing flaws? rt @tom_watson RT @evgenymorozov: Indian e-vote researcher released on bail http://www.ur1.ca/1e094Aug 30 17:37
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gnufreexhttp://blogs.computerworld.com/16847/vmware_should_buy_novellAug 30 17:38
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gnufreexSJVN is at it again.Aug 30 17:38
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] VMware should buy Novell http://bit.ly/9V4rO3 #Novell needs a buyer. #VMware needs an operating system, and #Linux will do fine.Aug 30 17:39
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] None of the companies which Allen sued cross-licenses with Microsoft (AFAIK) and they are all US-based, i.e. #swpats http://ur1.ca/1e0mlAug 30 17:40
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-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Blockbuster Bankruptcy, Yet Again, Highlights How It's Not Easy To Just Copy The Disruptive Innovation http://dlvr.it/4SQ8bAug 30 17:57
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gnufreexhttp://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/204418/red_hat_board_gets_military_leadership.htmlAug 30 18:01
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gnufreexSzulik leaves Red HatAug 30 18:02
gnufreexArmy guy takes place as chairman.Aug 30 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @MarshaCollier Why Internet Won't Kill Radio http://www.ur1.ca/1e180 <Internet expands horizons "Creative Deconstruction" #netneutralityAug 30 18:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @s_nunn via @_the_mad_hatter: Janis Ian – The Internet Debacle:An Alternative View http://bit.ly/cmIFFp !copyright !fixc32Aug 30 18:02
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Cisco looking to buy Skype? http://bit.ly/cW6ipA <Cisco + Skype makes sooo much sense (and cents)Aug 30 18:07
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @lnxwalt140 *once*Aug 30 18:22
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] @lnxwalt140 In general, I just don't offer not-at-work support for Windows, while I'll do limited work on a Linux machine.Aug 30 18:27
schestowitz[18:02] <gnufreex> Army guy takes place as chairman.Aug 30 18:29
schestowitzSo surrealAug 30 18:29
schestowitzFOSS is inherently anti-warAug 30 18:29
gnufreexYeah, but industry is at war nowAug 30 18:29
schestowitzDifferent typeAug 30 18:30
MinceRFOSS is orthogonal to warAug 30 18:30
gnufreexWell, different type, but that guy is general... he knows tactics...Aug 30 18:31
gnufreexLolAug 30 18:31
schestowitzFOSS is orthogonal to Microsoft Florian, aka fauxpatentsAug 30 18:31
MinceRnopeAug 30 18:31
MinceRm$ is an enemy of FOSSAug 30 18:31
schestowitzIt "loves" itAug 30 18:31
schestowitzSweatyB wanna hump itAug 30 18:32
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gnufreexI just now skimmed over Floyds latest blog post... He is saying that rich guys can't patent trolls?Aug 30 18:32
schestowitzBallmer: "can't nobody hol' me down, oh no! I got to keep on jumping.."Aug 30 18:32
gnufreexIf you are rich, you are allowed to trollAug 30 18:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] rt @russellmcormond Improperly sent form letter from @mpjamesmoore detected as #scam by software http://www.ur1.ca/1e242 #copycon !Billc32Aug 30 18:32
gnufreexThat is what he is sayingAug 30 18:32
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schestowitzHe redefinesAug 30 18:33
schestowitzLike FFII saidAug 30 18:33
schestowitzLike he does with FOSSAug 30 18:33
schestowitzFauxpatentsAug 30 18:33
MinceRthe patents are very real, thoughAug 30 18:33
schestowitz[16:33] [Notice] -TRT to #techrights- [jwildeboer] Once we fought side by side against #swpat, but now it seems Florian has moved to the dark side.Aug 30 18:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #ROTFL MSFT uses FreeType, seems to be best implementation of their truetype tech ;-) http://i35.tinypic.com/jazx2t.jpgAug 30 18:33
-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Wifi + 3G + SIP + Asterisk #great #officeAug 30 18:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] "Red Hat (NYSE:RHT) traded in a range yesterday that spanned from a low of $34.25 to a high of $35.27." http://ur1.ca/1e1szAug 30 18:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @sjvn /should/? You want lots of Microsoft execs to own Novell and UNIX??Aug 30 18:33
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schestowitzjwildeboer is from Red HatAug 30 18:33
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schestowitz[18:33] <MinceR> the patents are very real, thoughAug 30 18:34
schestowitzThe ones Novell signed on?Aug 30 18:34
MinceRnopeAug 30 18:34
MinceRsw patents in generalAug 30 18:34
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] How To Make Authentic Lightsabers http://bit.ly/b2BZXIAug 30 18:39
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-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @agentsmith Cisco looking to buy Skype? http://bit.ly/cW6ipA <Cisco + Skype makes sooo much sense (and cents) > they got #jabberAug 30 18:40
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schestowitz[18:34] <MinceR> sw patents in generalAug 30 18:41
schestowitzWell, "FOSS patents" never made sense to meAug 30 18:41
schestowitzWhat does it even mean?Aug 30 18:41
schestowitzFOSS has no patentsAug 30 18:41
schestowitzI reckon much later that Microsoft Florian tries to call IBM patents thatAug 30 18:42
schestowitzAs if to say, "be careful of those nasty 'FOSS patents'"Aug 30 18:42
FurnaceBoy...Aug 30 18:42
FurnaceBoynice analysisAug 30 18:42
FurnaceBoy"Google vs Open Source"Aug 30 18:42
FurnaceBoyFUDAug 30 18:42
FurnaceBoyhot airAug 30 18:42
gnufreexHe is advocating that FOSS should take out patents and troll.http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/05/dpl-and-fair-troll-business-model-make.htmlAug 30 18:42
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gnufreexhttp://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2010/05/dpl-and-fair-troll-business-model-make.htmlAug 30 18:42
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schestowitz[18:42] <FurnaceBoy> "Google vs Open Source"Aug 30 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @webmaven @eximious http://questioncopyright.org/minute_memes/copying_is_not_theftAug 30 18:42
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] The Beautiful And Talented Janis Ian "Fallout: A Follow Up To The Internet Debacle"(via_the_mad_hatter ) http://www.ur1.ca/1e2gc !copyfightAug 30 18:43
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schestowitzIBM vs FOSSAug 30 18:43
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schestowitzAs in THAug 30 18:43
schestowitzLet's save Linux from IBM :-)Aug 30 18:43
schestowitzANd from Red HatAug 30 18:43
gnufreexI thought that Fair Troll is good idea, but now I think he is advocating it to make FOSS look like extemistsAug 30 18:43
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @estherschindler: Re-claiming Identity: Fight for Secure Distributed Identity Protocols by Scott Fulton http://ow.ly/2wO3B #securityAug 30 18:43
gnufreexAnd poslibly make new divisionAug 30 18:43
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*schestowitz wants to shoot own too (Microsoft Florian voice in head shout, "do ittttttttt!1111!!!!!!!11"Aug 30 18:43
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] @schestowitz "Should" as in it makes biz sense. Also VMware has been no friend to MSFT, or vice-versa, for the last year or so. Check it outAug 30 18:44
FurnaceBoy....Aug 30 18:45
schestowitz Aug 30 18:45
FurnaceBoyapologistaAug 30 18:45
schestowitzMono?Aug 30 18:45
FurnaceBoy"look, look, MS is on theback foot"Aug 30 18:45
FurnaceBoy"MS is the underdog now"Aug 30 18:45
FurnaceBoy= rhetoric from MiniMSFTAug 30 18:45
MinceRlolAug 30 18:45
schestowitzSave MicosoftAug 30 18:45
schestowitzWhere/Aug 30 18:45
FurnaceBoyyes, save innovation!Aug 30 18:45
FurnaceBoyprotect the american corporation!Aug 30 18:45
schestowitzPoor MicrosoftAug 30 18:45
schestowitzNobody wants itAug 30 18:46
schestowitzNot FOSSAug 30 18:46
FurnaceBoynobody else knows how to innovate!Aug 30 18:46
schestowitz"looking for love in the wrong place" -IDGAug 30 18:46
schestowitzPoor ballmerAug 30 18:46
schestowitzballmer BillYGAug 30 18:46
MinceRthe "underdog" with a majority installed base in the desktop marketAug 30 18:46
FurnaceBoyunfair! unfair!Aug 30 18:46
MinceRquite the "underdog" indeedAug 30 18:46
FurnaceBoyMinceR: of course. it's just FUD.Aug 30 18:46
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schestowitzSays he wishes he wasn't richest in the worldAug 30 18:46
schestowitzPoor BillAug 30 18:46
FurnaceBoyMinceR: but it's out thereAug 30 18:46
schestowitzSo humbleAug 30 18:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: exactlyAug 30 18:46
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: white man's burdenAug 30 18:46
schestowitzHeheAug 30 18:47
schestowitzIt's like big companies that keep a low profileAug 30 18:47
schestowitzMonsanto for one thingAug 30 18:47
schestowitzBillG will "feed the hungry"Aug 30 18:47
schestowitzHe does the talkingAug 30 18:47
schestowitzWithout ever bringing up the "M" wordAug 30 18:47
FurnaceBoyrightAug 30 18:48
schestowitzMonsanto and MicrosoftAug 30 18:48
FurnaceBoy'science will do it'Aug 30 18:48
schestowitz"Donate computers to libraries"Aug 30 18:48
FurnaceBoy'monsanto == science'Aug 30 18:48
FurnaceBoyimpliedAug 30 18:48
schestowitz[with Widnwos+MS Office]Aug 30 18:48
FurnaceBoy'microsoft == technology' (implied)Aug 30 18:48
schestowitz"Donate seeds"Aug 30 18:48
FurnaceBoy'war == peace'Aug 30 18:48
schestowitz[Monsanto price gouging]Aug 30 18:48
schestowitz"Deonate vaccines"Aug 30 18:48
schestowitz[Novarttis licks lips"Aug 30 18:48
schestowitz[Novartis licks lips]Aug 30 18:48
schestowitzAnd shares go up for Bill Gates' Cancade or whatever his investor arm is called... in Kinkjland, WA]Aug 30 18:49
schestowitz*something CascadeAug 30 18:49
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @Likewise: Shakespeare is always best when performed in the original Klingon http://bit.ly/bTIDbr /via @jperlowAug 30 18:49
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-TRT/#techrights-[nsisodiya] Now trying to integrating office Wikipedia (1GB) in #SchoolOS. Next version will be having Wikipedia + FOSS Video lecture.Aug 30 18:51
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] How To Use SUSE Studio To Build Enterprise Appliances http://is.gd/eLSorAug 30 18:52
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schestowitzsjvn is promoting anything from colleagues, pro-Microsoft too nowAug 30 18:53
schestowitzHe goes for hits, not defending FOSS sadlyAug 30 18:53
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gnufreex[19:29:33] <schestowitz> Different type [of war]Aug 30 19:04
gnufreexJust a thought now: I have a feeling that companies will gladly use tanks and kill people now, if it would make money. It real war. IT became dog ead dog jungle.Aug 30 19:04
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FurnaceBoygnufreex: building and selling tanks/weapons has been lucrative for centuriesAug 30 19:05
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FurnaceBoygnufreex: leading to the effective takeover of 'government' by the arms industryAug 30 19:06
schestowitz"I'm going to f---ing bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I'm going to f---ing kill Google." [Sydney Morning Herald]Aug 30 19:06
gnufreexYeah, Canonical hired tank lady as CEOAug 30 19:06
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: that was Ballmer, wasn't it?Aug 30 19:06
schestowitzNoAug 30 19:06
schestowitzHis alter-agoAug 30 19:06
FurnaceBoygnufreex: israel, uk, france, germany, usa, russia, and I suppose china tooAug 30 19:06
schestowitzHis animal instinctsAug 30 19:06
schestowitz[19:06] <gnufreex> Yeah, Canonical hired tank lady as CEOAug 30 19:07
schestowitzHuh?Aug 30 19:07
schestowitzTank lady?Aug 30 19:07
schestowitzWhat's her background anyway?Aug 30 19:07
schestowitz[Before she met Mark]Aug 30 19:07
gnufreexHe worked for tanks companyAug 30 19:07
schestowitzThey seem like a couple of sortsAug 30 19:07
gnufreexShe*Aug 30 19:08
schestowitzBut Mark is into "chicks"... he's a womaniserAug 30 19:08
schestowitzgnufreex: URL?Aug 30 19:08
gnufreexThere is nothing about that on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_SilberAug 30 19:08
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gnufreexBut shuttleworth said he saved her from selling tanksAug 30 19:09
gnufreexShe worked for something 'General'Aug 30 19:09
schestowitzdo some searchingAug 30 19:09
gnufreexGeneral DynamicsAug 30 19:09
schestowitzhttp://www.generaldynamics.com/Aug 30 19:10
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schestowitzAre you sure?Aug 30 19:10
gnufreexhttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/interviews/catching-up-with-canonical/Aug 30 19:10
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schestowitzWhat a crappy Web siteAug 30 19:10
schestowitzNo visitors, eitherAug 30 19:10
MinceR200425 < gnufreex> Just a thought now: I have a feeling that companies will gladly use tanks and kill people now, if it would make money. It real war. IT became dog ead dog jungle.Aug 30 19:10
MinceRcyberpunkAug 30 19:11
MinceRit's becoming realityAug 30 19:11
FurnaceBoythis has been reality for centuriesAug 30 19:11
schestowitz"Defence"Aug 30 19:11
FurnaceBoyjust not 'consensus reality'Aug 30 19:11
schestowitzGosh I hate this wordAug 30 19:11
schestowitz"Department of defence"Aug 30 19:11
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: exactlyAug 30 19:11
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: Orwell had itAug 30 19:11
FurnaceBoyminitrueAug 30 19:11
FurnaceBoyminipaxAug 30 19:11
schestowitz"I work for the defende industry"Aug 30 19:11
schestowitzDOSAug 30 19:11
schestowitzDODAug 30 19:11
schestowitz"Israeli 'defense' forced"Aug 30 19:11
gnufreexYeah, it has been reality in other industries, but for software and computers.. i thought it won't be that wayAug 30 19:11
schestowitz"What do you guys do?"Aug 30 19:12
schestowitz"Cluster bombs"Aug 30 19:12
schestowitz"Oh, cool, man!"Aug 30 19:12
FurnaceBoygnufreex: i guess money ruins everything eventually.Aug 30 19:12
schestowitzLet's call it the "attack industry"Aug 30 19:12
FurnaceBoygnufreex: pretty soon you need to wipe out the other guys to keep the money you stole (Gates)Aug 30 19:12
schestowitzWithout weapons, people can hardly attackAug 30 19:12
FurnaceBoypopulation reduction. other people are a threat to the fortune.Aug 30 19:12
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: GazaAug 30 19:12
schestowitzOr the attack-enabling industryAug 30 19:12
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: shooting unarmed people is the new 'defence'Aug 30 19:12
schestowitzgnufreex: I can't find it in the interviewAug 30 19:13
schestowitz"financial sector"Aug 30 19:13
FurnaceBoylulzAug 30 19:13
schestowitzLending predatorsAug 30 19:13
FurnaceBoyFraud SectorAug 30 19:13
gnufreexSilber had an impressive CV, having worked as VP of a $45 million business unit at General Dynamics Corp in the USAug 30 19:13
schestowitz"Hedge funds"Aug 30 19:13
schestowitz;-)Aug 30 19:13
gnufreexFirst paragraphAug 30 19:13
gnufreexhttp://www.linuxuser.co.uk/interviews/catching-up-with-canonical/Aug 30 19:13
MinceR201135 < schestowitz> "Cluster bombs"Aug 30 19:13
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FurnaceBoyimpressive CV? I call that a rap sheetAug 30 19:13
MinceRwell, you know what the best defense isAug 30 19:13
FurnaceBoyMinceR: cluster... sounds like grapes.Aug 30 19:13
MinceRyumAug 30 19:14
schestowitz:-)Aug 30 19:14
schestowitzYumAug 30 19:14
FurnaceBoyMinceR: or NTFSAug 30 19:14
schestowitzPour me a cluster of them :-)Aug 30 19:14
schestowitzWIth vodkaAug 30 19:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: want a cherry on top?Aug 30 19:14
schestowitzYayAug 30 19:14
schestowitzCLUSTER! CLUSTER!!Aug 30 19:14
gnufreexschestowitz: Did you read?Aug 30 19:14
schestowitz*Simpsons dancingAug 30 19:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: I invented a cocktail! it's called "Shoot The Activist"Aug 30 19:14
schestowitzMolotovAug 30 19:14
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: to make it, you take one machine gun, and fire at people running away!Aug 30 19:15
schestowitz"Assault rifle"Aug 30 19:15
schestowitzNow that's some straight up nameAug 30 19:15
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: unfortunately I infringe an IDF patent...Aug 30 19:15
MinceRi wonder what else one could use a rifle forAug 30 19:15
FurnaceBoyMinceR: feeding the hungryAug 30 19:15
MinceRwith bullets?Aug 30 19:15
schestowitzNoAug 30 19:15
MinceRwell, they won't be hungry ever afterAug 30 19:15
schestowitzFOrced farmingAug 30 19:15
schestowitzLike in AfricaAug 30 19:15
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: very good pointAug 30 19:15
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: you think Foxconn security is armed?Aug 30 19:16
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: conflict phonesAug 30 19:16
MinceR"Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life."Aug 30 19:16
FurnaceBoyschestowitz: suiciPadAug 30 19:16
gnufreex<MinceR> well, they won't be hungry ever afterAug 30 19:18
gnufreexROFLAug 30 19:18
schestowitzhttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/73?size=previewAug 30 19:18
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gnufreexReally, Shuttleworth lost lots of money in this crisis thingie. He is not bilionare anymore. I can't get where I read that.Aug 30 19:20
schestowitzHow do you know?Aug 30 19:25
schestowitzWhat did he invest in?Aug 30 19:25
schestowitzHe did blog about macro-financeAug 30 19:25
schestowitzAround end of 2008Aug 30 19:26
gnufreexI read somewhere...Aug 30 19:26
schestowitzAh, OKAug 30 19:26
gnufreexOn few blog someone saidAug 30 19:26
schestowitzSo now he lets a proprietarist run as COOAug 30 19:26
gnufreexOn few blogsAug 30 19:26
gnufreexI am not sure if it is trueAug 30 19:26
schestowitzAug 30 19:26
schestowitz[19:20] <gnufreex> Really, Shuttleworth lost lots of money in this crisis thingie. He is not bilionare anymore.Aug 30 19:26
schestowitzWas he ever??Aug 30 19:26
schestowitzI think he had maybe 100 millionAug 30 19:26
gnufreexHe said once that he had 1.6 bilionAug 30 19:26
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schestowitzHe must have shared the takeover moneyAug 30 19:27
schestowitzVCAug 30 19:27
schestowitzAnd other employeeAug 30 19:27
schestowitzPeople are deluded about such things... believing all the money goes to bankAug 30 19:27
gnufreexYesAug 30 19:27
schestowitzNo VC, banks, shares, etc.Aug 30 19:27
schestowitzMonty from mysql made not so muchAug 30 19:27
schestowitzMany tens of millionsAug 30 19:27
gnufreexHe had cash in sharesAug 30 19:27
schestowitzMicrsooft Florian mailed me about itAug 30 19:27
gnufreexThat evaporate in crisisAug 30 19:27
schestowitzHe worked as a shill for MontyAug 30 19:27
schestowitzNow for Microsoft, it seemsAug 30 19:28
gnufreexMonty made 18 milionAug 30 19:28
schestowitz1.8% of the buyoutAug 30 19:28
gnufreexAnd people say he wants to buy back MySQL for 100mAug 30 19:28
gnufreexThat is crazyAug 30 19:28
FurnaceBoythe whole save mysql campaign was irrationalAug 30 19:28
schestowitzMickos has a new jobAug 30 19:28
gnufreexhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_WideniusAug 30 19:28
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schestowitzAnother companies ... 'open' core this timeAug 30 19:28
gnufreexIt says 16.6 milion eurosAug 30 19:29
gnufreexThat is what Monty got.Aug 30 19:29
schestowitzPoor dudeAug 30 19:29
schestowitzNo yacht thenAug 30 19:29
gnufreexHahaAug 30 19:29
schestowitzOnly Law Suit Larry can laugh at him nowAug 30 19:29
schestowitzRich coders' problemAug 30 19:30
schestowitzhttp://www.reuters.com/article/idUS418227871620100828 http://www.itworld.com/development/118933/java-developers-reaction-oracle-google-lawsuitAug 30 19:30
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schestowitzhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/27/google_back_out_of_java_one/Aug 30 19:30
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schestowitzOrc Ale pisses...Aug 30 19:30
schestowitzEVeryone offAug 30 19:30
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] What does Paul Allen think he's doing!? http://bit.ly/aSlxNf Besides keeping patent lawyers employed & trying to make a few more billions?Aug 30 19:33
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Comic Book Writer Mark Waid Defends Copying, Points To The Value Of The Public Domain http://dlvr.it/4SYHSAug 30 19:33
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @Techlicious: Netflix for iPhone great but uses up to 100MB per 30 mins of video. AT&T DataPlus customers beware! http://bit.ly/b0eAw4Aug 30 19:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] #Assange roundup for today. Slowly the dots connect. http://is.gd/eLUslAug 30 19:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Apertus, the Open Source HD Movie Camera http://bit.ly/dB43PxAug 30 19:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] I have only just discovered that Canonical's CEO used to work for the weapons industry. #RedHat now adds an army general. #ubuntuAug 30 19:33
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] so, did I miss anything while I was away...?Aug 30 19:33
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-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Meet Apertus, The Open Source HD Cinema Camera - http://bit.ly/9hjEXg useful details #opensource #openhardware #hdAug 30 19:33
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | Apertus, the Open Source HD Movie Camera .::. Size~: 58.31 KBAug 30 19:33
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gnufreexschestowitz: Where Shuttlewort bloged about finances?Aug 30 19:34
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] College Starts With a Fresh Textbook Torrent Site - http://bit.ly/cqKddE yes, ebooks are next... #bittorrent #sharing #ebooksAug 30 19:37
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schestowitzhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_SilberAug 30 19:38
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schestowitzgnufreex: hold on...Aug 30 19:39
schestowitzsearch markshuttleworth.comAug 30 19:39
schestowitzAround end of 2008Aug 30 19:39
schestowitzThere aren't many posts there, maybe over 100Aug 30 19:39
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @jwildeboer watch out! Daily Mail is #Murdoch IIRC. #fox #faux #propaganda #warmonger #disinformation #wikileaks #biasAug 30 19:39
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Use of rare earth metals outstripping supply - http://bit.ly/af0ZzF another reason China is laughing #rareearth #chinaAug 30 19:39
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gnufreexhttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/227Aug 30 19:40
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gnufreexThis?Aug 30 19:40
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Blockbuster Bankruptcy, Yet Again, Highlights How It's Not Easy To Just Copy The Disruptive Innovation - http://bit.ly/aW25iq good pointAug 30 19:41
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @glynmoody welcome back, your absence was feltAug 30 19:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blockbuster Bankruptcy, Yet Again, Highlights How It's Not Easy To Just Copy The Disruptive Innovation | Techdirt .::. Size~: 72.58 KBAug 30 19:41
gnufreexi guess notAug 30 19:43
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schestowitzgnufreex: yesAug 30 19:47
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Paul Allen's Complaint Against the World, as text - http://bit.ly/9CFHSC this one looks *seriously* fun...#swpats #trollsAug 30 19:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Groklaw - Paul Allen's Complaint Against the World, as text .::. Size~: 115.68 KBAug 30 19:47
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[silner/@silner] Why Microsoft is Being Nicer to Open Source | ITworld http://ow.ly/2wUd0Aug 30 19:47
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Microsoft is Being Nicer to Open Source | ITworld .::. Size~: 85.27 KBAug 30 19:48
gnufreexbut he didnt say anything about his cashAug 30 19:48
schestowitzNopeAug 30 19:48
cubevectorPaul Allen suxAug 30 19:48
gnufreexJust about global economyAug 30 19:48
schestowitzHe never did AFAIK or until you said itAug 30 19:48
cubevectorI used to feel some sympathy for AllenAug 30 19:48
schestowitzcubevector: he's the 'nice' guy at MicrosoftAug 30 19:48
schestowitzBut now BillyG is also the 'nice' oneAug 30 19:48
schestowitzBoth pretend to do 'charity'Aug 30 19:48
FurnaceBoyDaily Mail is not Murdoch, schestowitzAug 30 19:48
schestowitzBunch of self-publicistsAug 30 19:49
FurnaceBoygood cop/bad copAug 30 19:49
schestowitzThank Rockefeller for the Rockefeller centresAug 30 19:49
gnufreexschestowitz: I will try to find where I heard thatAug 30 19:49
FurnaceBoyGates/Ballmer were a good cop/bad cop team.Aug 30 19:49
gnufreexI think he was saying it on YouTube videoAug 30 19:49
schestowitzcubevector: cause Ballmer and BIllG exploited him?Aug 30 19:49
schestowitzOr cause of the illnessAug 30 19:49
cubevectormore like Bad cop/ other bad copAug 30 19:49
MinceRbad cop/worse copAug 30 19:50
cubevectorthose Microsoft guys are illAug 30 19:50
FurnaceBoy+1Aug 30 19:50
FurnaceBoyit is an interesting diseaseAug 30 19:50
FurnaceBoywe suffer, they profitAug 30 19:51
MinceRsociopathy?Aug 30 19:51
FurnaceBoyMinceR: exactlyAug 30 19:51
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #PaulAllen and #SteveJobs show that life-threatening disease can make predators out of humans rather than make them compassionate #paultrollAug 30 19:51
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] What is liberalism? - http://bit.ly/9Dm4BC nicely argued #liberalismAug 30 19:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Jack of Kent: What is liberalism? .::. Size~: 90.68 KBAug 30 19:53
MinceRhumans are predators by defaultAug 30 19:55
MinceRhumans eat the meat of animals they killAug 30 19:55
MinceR:>Aug 30 19:55
schestowitzhttp://www.itworld.com/open-source/119054/why-microsoft-being-nice-open-source "v"Aug 30 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Why Microsoft is Being Nicer to Open Source | ITworld .::. Size~: 85.27 KBAug 30 19:56
schestowitz"Evan Moglen"Aug 30 19:56
schestowitzTeeheeAug 30 19:56
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "[...] it seems to me that Mr. Allen is attempting to enter the deep, dark world of patent trolls." - http://is.gd/eLXpBAug 30 19:56
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Co-Founder Paul Allen Sues Apple, Google, Facebook, Yahoo and Others for Patent Infringement | IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law .::. Size~: 78.05 KBAug 30 19:56
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "[...] but color me cynical about Interval Research’s decision to sue all major tech players other than Microsoft" - http://is.gd/eLXpBAug 30 19:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Co-Founder Paul Allen Sues Apple, Google, Facebook, Yahoo and Others for Patent Infringement | IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law .::. Size~: 78.05 KBAug 30 19:58
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] " If I were one of the defendants I would file a motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim" - http://is.gd/eLXpB #Allen #swpat #trollAug 30 19:59
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft Co-Founder Paul Allen Sues Apple, Google, Facebook, Yahoo and Others for Patent Infringement | IPWatchdog.com | Patents & Patent Law .::. Size~: 78.05 KBAug 30 19:59
FurnaceBoywow, some armchair lawyering going on.Aug 30 20:00
schestowitzYeahAug 30 20:00
schestowitzWatchTrollAug 30 20:00
schestowitzQuinnAug 30 20:00
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Windows and #Linux: Peaceful Co-Existence With Microsoft and #Novell by @sjvn http://ow.ly/2wTxbAug 30 20:00
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-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Getting the Most from Your 802.11n Investment by @sjvn http://ow.ly/2wTnS #wifiAug 30 20:01
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] On HTML5 killing Flash - http://bit.ly/dpk8Cb useful summary; but you know where I stand... #html5 #flashAug 30 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle:  Getting the Most from Your 802.11n Investment | Dell  .::. Size~: 30.15 KBAug 30 20:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Coté's People Over Process » On HTML5 killing Flash .::. Size~: 42.2 KBAug 30 20:01
schestowitz"Disclosure: Adobe and Microsoft are clients."Aug 30 20:04
schestowitzAt least they say soAug 30 20:05
schestowitzothers just hide itAug 30 20:05
schestowitzThis the #neckbeard trolls, but I agree with him on this one: http://humphreybc.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/the-joke-that-is-mavericks-default-wallpaper/ "Do you think that you can change anything insulting people?"Aug 30 20:32
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The joke that is Mavericks default wallpaper « all wrongs reserved .::. Size~: 22.6 KBAug 30 20:32
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[lnxwalt140/@lnxwalt140] Sheriff: You don't like fried chicken? Deputy: No. Watermelon either. I can't even tap dance! -- Carter Country (TV show)Aug 30 20:32
schestowitzComments slam the trollAug 30 20:33
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] Cartoon: So sue me http://is.gd/eLY6i Cute. Worry not, you too may hear from Paul Allen.Aug 30 20:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] RIM Reaches Temporary Agreement With India http://bit.ly/b5Cw4WAug 30 20:33
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Yet Another Study Says Counterfeit Products Aren't Really A Problem http://dlvr.it/4Sf78Aug 30 20:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] "[U]se your power as a consumer to encourage businesses and other public places to become Fox Free." http://ur1.ca/1e53t #murdochAug 30 20:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jonobacon] What are your fave stories of Free Software and Open Source - http://is.gd/eLZ3z #community #freesoftware #opensourceAug 30 20:33
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Gates Foundation Invests in Monsanto - http://bit.ly/8XblmF intellectual monopolists made for each other (via @schestowitz)Aug 30 20:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Michael Tiemann Opens Up http://www.muktware.com/news/29/2010/319 #osi #redhatAug 30 20:33
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] #IPv6 and IPv4 Co-existence http://ow.ly/2wVmT by @sjvn. Oh the joys of #interoperability!Aug 30 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cartoon:   So sue me | Noise to Signal Cartoon .::. Size~: 23.21 KBAug 30 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Your Rights Online Story | RIM Reaches Temporary Agreement With India .::. Size~: 70.93 KBAug 30 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Yet Another Study Says Counterfeit Products Aren't Really A Problem | Techdirt .::. Size~: 29.38 KBAug 30 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: ColorOfChange.org .::. Size~: 7.73 KBAug 30 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:                   Incredible Stories Of Free Software and Open Source | jonobacon@home                     .::. Size~: 26.14 KBAug 30 20:33
*justin__ (823916c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.130.57.22.201) has joined #techrightsAug 30 20:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   For Immediate Release: GATES FOUNDATION INVESTS IN MONSANTO - Community Alliance for Global Justice .::. Size~: 45.14 KBAug 30 20:33
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justin__hey, looks like you guys might be right about mono project being deadAug 30 20:34
justin__http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/Aug 30 20:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Mono] Index of /trunk .::. Size~: 54.05 KBAug 30 20:34
justin__notice the datesAug 30 20:34
justin__no activity on any module for weeksAug 30 20:34
gnufreexI thought Mono uses Git?Aug 30 20:35
justin__looks like svn to meAug 30 20:35
justin__http://www.mono-project.com/AnonSVNAug 30 20:35
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AnonSVN - Mono .::. Size~: 10.11 KBAug 30 20:36
gnufreexI see that there is no activity for years... maybe they switched to GitAug 30 20:36
gnufreexAhAug 30 20:36
gnufreexYesAug 30 20:36
justin__some are only a few weeks of inactivityAug 30 20:36
gnufreex You are rightAug 30 20:36
gnufreexLet's hope it is deadAug 30 20:36
gnufreexNovell is firing people to stay profitableAug 30 20:36
justin__might explain why there is so little newsAug 30 20:36
justin__about mono/moonlieAug 30 20:36
justin__yeaAug 30 20:37
justin__they are going to be the next scoAug 30 20:37
schestowitzWaitAug 30 20:37
gnufreexMono is just microsoft pet project, no outside contributors. Just Novell and MicrosoftAug 30 20:37
schestowitzI'm catching up here :-)Aug 30 20:37
schestowitzSo was there an svn/git confusion?Aug 30 20:37
gnufreexAnd Microsoft is angry on Novell because VMware partnershipAug 30 20:37
schestowitzOr verified freeze?Aug 30 20:37
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Comment in the #neckbeard troll http://ur1.ca/1e5jb "It would be better if you would make the wallpaper if you don’t like the default."Aug 30 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: The joke that is Mavericks default wallpaper « all wrongs reserved .::. Size~: 22.64 KBAug 30 20:37
justin__verifiedAug 30 20:37
schestowitzMaybe summer break?Aug 30 20:37
schestowitzSteadfast took some break iircAug 30 20:37
justin__http://www.mono-project.com/AnonSVNAug 30 20:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: AnonSVN - Mono .::. Size~: 10.11 KBAug 30 20:37
schestowitzand the Microsoft MVP is having a babyAug 30 20:38
justin__are they the only 2 guys working on mono?Aug 30 20:38
gnufreexDe Icaza is one.Aug 30 20:38
schestowitzNo-NoAug 30 20:38
schestowitzNoAug 30 20:38
schestowitzHe's working on other parts of it, I thinkAug 30 20:38
gnufreexschestowitz: I was wrong, Mono uses SVNAug 30 20:38
schestowitzJoseph Hill or something leads in a newwAug 30 20:39
gnufreexno gitAug 30 20:39
schestowitzThen there are mono trollsAug 30 20:39
schestowitzLike Joseph Shields and some anonymous trolls who bully oppositionAug 30 20:39
justin__do they contribute tho?Aug 30 20:39
justin__or just trolls?Aug 30 20:39
schestowitzgnufreex: so it's dying?Aug 30 20:39
schestowitzI can recall something about git and monoAug 30 20:40
gnufreexschestowitz: I hopeAug 30 20:40
justin__seems soAug 30 20:40
schestowitzSee Microsoft's blog (tirania)Aug 30 20:40
gnufreexschestowitz: Mono people wanted to put write Git addons in MonoAug 30 20:40
gnufreexGit#Aug 30 20:40
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Diaspora Clarifies: Open Source On September 15, Consumer Alpha In October - http://tcrn.ch/baGXEu good news #diaspora #socialnwsAug 30 20:40
gnufreexBut nobody liked thatAug 30 20:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle:   Diaspora Clarifies: Open Source On September 15, Consumer Alpha In October  .::. Size~: 40.36 KBAug 30 20:40
gnufreexThey didn't really use Git, they wanted to kill it.Aug 30 20:40
MinceRwell, we already have "git, only slower"Aug 30 20:41
justin__like they try to kill everything elseAug 30 20:41
MinceRit's called mercurialAug 30 20:41
MinceRso there's no demand for git#Aug 30 20:41
schestowitzjustin__: did you check inside dirs to see they don't code in another space?Aug 30 20:41
FurnaceBoythere's that guy who wrote git plugins for visual studioAug 30 20:41
justin__schestowitz: yeaAug 30 20:41
schestowitzjustin__: what URL to show it best?Aug 30 20:42
schestowitzhttp://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/ does not provide compelling proofAug 30 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Mono] Index of /trunk .::. Size~: 54.05 KBAug 30 20:42
schestowitzI need a quick URL to validate with readersAug 30 20:42
gnufreexhttp://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/Aug 30 20:42
justin__hmmAug 30 20:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: [Mono] Index of / .::. Size~: 4.58 KBAug 30 20:42
schestowitzhttp://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/?sortby=date#dirlistAug 30 20:42
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justin__yea, the toplevel is probably goodAug 30 20:43
justin__or could show http://anonsvn.mono-project.com/viewvc/trunk/mono/Aug 30 20:43
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gnufreexMicrosofties probably don't contribute anymore because Novell-VMware deal.Aug 30 20:43
gnufreexThere goes 60% of work forceAug 30 20:44
justin__there was a vmware deal?Aug 30 20:44
gnufreexVMware distirbutes SUSE with ESX nowAug 30 20:44
schestowitzYesAug 30 20:44
justin__oh, I missed thatAug 30 20:44
gnufreexMicrosoft is but hurtedAug 30 20:44
schestowitzMaybe vmware will buy novlAug 30 20:44
justin__maybe all the mono people got firedAug 30 20:45
justin__probably not de icaza thoAug 30 20:45
schestowitzNoAug 30 20:45
gnufreexschestowitz: I hope not.Aug 30 20:45
schestowitzBut de Icaza cleans bathrooms at Novell nowAug 30 20:45
gnufreexI would like Red Hat to buy them. And then Army Man to make De Icaza clean toilets.Aug 30 20:46
schestowitzhttp://abock.org/2010/08/06/real-american-heroes-toilet-troubleAug 30 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Real American Heroes: Toilet Trouble « Aaron Bockover .::. Size~: 32.54 KBAug 30 20:46
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] NIH Orders Halt To Embryonic Stem Cell Research http://bit.ly/a2JKE9Aug 30 20:46
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Science Story | NIH Orders Halt To Embryonic Stem Cell Research .::. Size~: 50.8 KBAug 30 20:46
gnufreexHehe.Aug 30 20:48
gnufreexWhat he does in toilet. It has noting to do with Microsoft... oh waitAug 30 20:49
gnufreexI just now got why Bill Gates named compney MicroSoftAug 30 20:49
gnufreexafter his weenieAug 30 20:49
justin__lol, de icaza got demoted to toilet cleanerAug 30 20:50
justin__hahaAug 30 20:50
gnufreexHe even look like Microsoftie now.Aug 30 20:52
gnufreexHe looked less Micrsofotish before.Aug 30 20:52
-TRT/#techrights-[linuxtoday] How to make a Cosmic Wallpaper in GIMP: Scott Photographics: "This tutorial will hopefully help inspire you to cre... http://bit.ly/bKomuuAug 30 20:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Linux Today - How to make a Cosmic Wallpaper in GIMP .::. Size~: 76.63 KBAug 30 20:52
cubevectorMicrosoft Toilet PaperAug 30 20:53
cubevectorit could happenAug 30 20:53
ThistleWebI wouldnt be surprised if they had staff toilet rolls with logos of like google, or tux on itAug 30 20:54
ThistleWebon each sheetAug 30 20:54
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] In Defense of Links, Part One: Nick Carr, hypertext and delinkification - http://bit.ly/asKV1i debunking of Mr Carr's crypto-transclusionismAug 30 20:55
TechrightsBot-trTitle: In Defense of Links, Part One: Nick Carr, hypertext and delinkification — Scott Rosenberg's Wordyard .::. Size~: 45.07 KBAug 30 20:55
justin__mono guys are such losersAug 30 20:56
justin__they should have given up long agoAug 30 20:56
justin__and not even bothered to tryAug 30 20:56
justin__hopefully now canonical will give up on mono tooAug 30 20:57
gnufreexjustin__: I had no problem with them writting Mono. I am pissed at Mono because MonoDudes don't know their place. It is only so we can say every language can run on Linux. It is stupid to write software with it. It is stupid to try and make it default language for GNU / LinuxAug 30 20:59
gnufreexANd they are trying just that.Aug 30 20:59
gnufreexThey are doing Mono just despite FSF and to piss people they call "zealots"Aug 30 21:00
gnufreexAnd to advance Microsoft agenda, of course.Aug 30 21:00
gnufreexPlace of Mono is same as place for Wine. Out of default installAug 30 21:00
gnufreexAnd Wine is not used to write free software.Aug 30 21:01
justin__yea, they totally didn't know their placeAug 30 21:01
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Who would dare to speak of trolls? http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/paul-allen-is-no-patent-troll/2360 #swpatAug 30 21:01
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Hulu: We Know That Hulu Plus Sucks, But It's Not Our Fault http://dlvr.it/4SkrXAug 30 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Paul Allen is no patent troll | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 144.61 KBAug 30 21:01
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Hulu: We Know That Hulu Plus Sucks, But It's Not Our Fault | Techdirt .::. Size~: 21.26 KBAug 30 21:01
justin__gnufreex imo, monodudes were never very intelligentAug 30 21:02
justin__probably got rejected from every other projectAug 30 21:02
gnufreexWell, I think they are inteligent. But they use their brains to help Microsoft. They are not friends of FOSS.Aug 30 21:03
gnufreexThey got rejected from other projects because they Microsfotish tendencies, They want to make GNU/Linux a cheap clone of Winodws.Aug 30 21:04
justin__yeaAug 30 21:04
gnufreexI am not saying all Mono advocates are like that. Just the main ones. And they set other on wrong track.Aug 30 21:04
gnufreex*othersAug 30 21:04
MinceRde icaza wrote at least one good programAug 30 21:05
MinceRbut apparently he's more interested in serving m$Aug 30 21:05
justin__mincer: what?Aug 30 21:05
MinceRgnumericAug 30 21:05
gnufreexHe wrote Gnumeric?Aug 30 21:05
justin__I get the feeling he didn't really even write thatAug 30 21:05
MinceRhe wrote the original version, apparentlyAug 30 21:05
justin__probably just took credit for itAug 30 21:05
gnufreexI think Stallman started writing that.Aug 30 21:05
MinceRdunnoAug 30 21:05
MinceRwikipedia says he's the original authorAug 30 21:06
gnufreexAnd then some of Emacs crew finishedAug 30 21:06
justin__mono trolls are on wikipedia thoughAug 30 21:06
justin__so you can't trust itAug 30 21:06
MinceRicAug 30 21:06
MinceRold versions of the changelog are gone from gnumeric.orgAug 30 21:07
gnufreexDe Icaza didn't start GNOME either. He only set himself on right place to get credits. If FSF didn't fund GNOME, it would be nothing.Aug 30 21:07
gnufreexOriginaly, GNU project tried twice to write LISP GUI. And both times they were distracted by some fork. First XEmacs, then EGGC. Then GNOME was third attempt when non-free KDE took off.Aug 30 21:09
justin__yepAug 30 21:09
justin__and miguel was just there to steal the creditsAug 30 21:09
gnufreexhttp://stallman.org/articles/xemacs.originAug 30 21:10
MinceRfirst commits show no trace of de icazaAug 30 21:10
MinceRhttp://git.gnome.org/browse/gnumeric/log/?ofs=18150Aug 30 21:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Not a web page! Aborting text/plain type .::. Size~: 0 KBAug 30 21:10
TechrightsBot-trTitle: gnumeric - The Gnome Office Spreadsheet - Free, Fast, Accurate: Pick any 3! .::. Size~: 17.61 KBAug 30 21:10
gnufreexHere is what Stallman said on XEmacsAug 30 21:10
MinceRwaitAug 30 21:10
schestowitz[20:50] <justin__> lol, de icaza got demoted to toilet cleanerAug 30 21:10
schestowitzMaybe Novell cut more staffAug 30 21:10
MinceRoh, rightAug 30 21:10
schestowitzIncluding wardens and cleanersAug 30 21:11
schestowitzSo they assigned a contigentAug 30 21:11
schestowitz"The guy who deals with all the ***t"Aug 30 21:11
gnufreexrofLAug 30 21:11
justin__lolAug 30 21:11
MinceRlike mono? :>Aug 30 21:12
justin__mono is a 4 letter wordAug 30 21:13
justin__is jono aka jono bacon?Aug 30 21:14
justin__just noticed him in the user listAug 30 21:15
justin__well, guys it's been fun but I need to get goingAug 30 21:16
justin__keep on fighting the good fight getting rid of trolls like de icaza and his friendsAug 30 21:17
justin__you guys make the world a better placeAug 30 21:17
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[diablod3/@diablod3] Christian Church lends building to Muslims while construction of Mosque continues; Jesus clearly approves of this http://u.nu/2h62fAug 30 21:17
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Cordova Christians put out welcome mat for new mosque » The Commercial Appeal .::. Size~: 176.45 KBAug 30 21:18
*justin__ has quit (Quit: Page closed)Aug 30 21:18
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Which ebook sellers will allow publishers and writers to opt out of DRM? - http://bit.ly/cK7sna kudos to @doctorow for this: more neededAug 30 21:33
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Software Freedom Law Center to Open India Branch - http://bit.ly/9wer2j sounds like a win all around #india #freeswAug 30 21:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @glynmoody Carr’s campaign against hyperlinks might be baiting/ trolling like Wired publishing about the death of the Web (you missed that)Aug 30 21:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @ffii Ed Bought [sic] gets expensive gifts from Allen Paul's companyAug 30 21:33
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] GNU/Linux – finally it’s Free software - http://bit.ly/9Ndi9N fascinating stuff #licensing #linux #gnuAug 30 21:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] HP Snaps Up 3PAR For $2 Billion http://bit.ly/dsr3EUAug 30 21:33
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] ACTA & the Telecoms Package: a mutually supportive relationship? - http://bit.ly/bC8q6W cynical move upon cynical move #actaAug 30 21:33
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Burning Man's open source cell phone system could help save the world - http://bit.ly/c98QGm OpenBTS, of course #voip #gsmAug 30 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Which ebook sellers will allow publishers and writers to opt out of DRM? - Boing Boing .::. Size~: 37.34 KBAug 30 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Software Freedom Law Center to Open India Branch - Linux Magazine Online  .::. Size~: 29.72 KBAug 30 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Blogs - Technology Blog and Community from IT Experts  - ComputerworldUK.com .::. Size~: 59.3 KBAug 30 21:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | HP Snaps Up 3PAR For $2 Billion .::. Size~: 53.8 KBAug 30 21:33
gnufreexWhat is about that 3PAR?Aug 30 21:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Burning Man's open source cell phone system could help save the world .::. Size~: 105.28 KBAug 30 21:36
TechrightsBot-trWhat is about that 3PAR?Aug 30 21:36
gnufreexI didn't checked it out, what is special bout them?Aug 30 21:36
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] @jwildeboer Allen no patent troll is like Hitler no nazi http://bit.ly/bCql2h #godwin #swpatAug 30 21:36
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: Why Paul Allen doesn't want to be a troll .::. Size~: 57.25 KBAug 30 21:36
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Does Twitter need an ‘Edit Tweet’ button? - http://bit.ly/bvxDUX only if you want to kill the thrill of microblogging #twitter #identicaAug 30 21:42
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MinceRit has a thrill?Aug 30 21:44
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Michael Tiemann Opens Up - http://bit.ly/dhnkJJ good to see this pioneer interviewed #freeswAug 30 21:44
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-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] strtotime() is just a bad smell. #phpAug 30 21:50
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "Therese von Sachsen-Hildburghausen confirmed you as a friend on Facebook" Preparing for Oktoberfest, better be friends with the organiser..Aug 30 21:52
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Lewis Hyde, author of Common as Air: Revolution, Art, and Ownership - http://bit.ly/cP2LbO just ordered, looking forward to reading #commonsAug 30 21:52
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-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Nicky's Film REMIX Contest - http://bit.ly/cRvfVh "re-invent the film by adding new footage", dialogue and sound #cc #remixAug 30 21:57
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Links 30/8/2010: Militant #RedHat Board, #Rails 3.0, #OLPC Healing, #OpenOffice .org Conference in Budapest http://ur1.ca/1e74rAug 30 21:57
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schestowitzhttp://identi.ca/conversation/47726750#notice-48107716 "@schestowitz actually, I just caught it...yes, Wired is clearly trolling; not so sure about Carr...he seems to believe it..."Aug 30 21:58
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Conversation - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 9.16 KBAug 30 21:58
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] #ACTA may restrict your privacy and cause lethal damage on #HIV patients in least developed nations http://bit.ly/brl8qx #evil2.0Aug 30 21:59
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] Out of the mouths of Puppets: Toronto Busker's !BillC32 improv song via boingboing @doctorow http://www.ur1.ca/1e739 #PRICELESS !copyrightAug 30 22:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[laurelrusswurm/@laurelrusswurm] RT @glynmoody Nicky's Film REMIX Contest - http://bit.ly/cRvfVh "re-invent the film by adding new footage", dialogue and sound #cc #remixAug 30 22:03
TechrightsBot-trTitle: YouTube- Improv puppet song about Bill C-32, Queen Street West, Toronto, Ontario, Canada .::. Size~: 91.46 KBAug 30 22:03
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-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Android Laptop US$ 99 (Photos) ur1.ca/1e79kAug 30 22:07
schestowitz[21:44] <MinceR> it has a thrill?Aug 30 22:21
schestowitzLike a rollercoasterAug 30 22:21
MinceRi doubt thatAug 30 22:21
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[agentsmith/@agentsmith] Cherry 7' - Android Laptop for US$99 ur1.ca/1e7efAug 30 22:23
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] The Pirate Bay - Away From Keyboard fundraise's completed and it'll be released under !cc -by-sa! (YES!) !fc !tpb #tpbafkAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Worrying: Google Reader is now informing me: "Since January 25, 2010 you have read a total of 300,000+ items." #excessAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Demonstrating the Power of #KDE : #Dolphin Outpaces #Konqueror Yet? http://techrights.org/2010/08/30/dolphin-demo/Aug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Assange gets the girls, we just get the trolls http://bit.ly/bsRjRz #sex #wikileaks #tabloidAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Oxford Dictionary Considers Going Online Only http://bit.ly/cP5wcOAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @sjvn is there a photo of yours I can use freely in articles about you?Aug 30 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Demonstrating the Power of KDE: Dolphin Outpaces Konqueror Yet? | Techrights .::. Size~: 101.45 KBAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Bill Gates Foundation Investing In Monsanto? http://dlvr.it/4SsGwAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @ffii @jwildeboer Allen no patent troll is like Hitler no nazi http://bit.ly/bCql2h #godwin #swpatAug 30 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Supporters dismissed rape accusations against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange... but the two women involved tell a different story  | Mail Online .::. Size~: 77.75 KBAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[qu1j0t3] U.S. wasted billions in incomplete, abandoned contractor projects (but hey, wasn't that the whole point of it) #Iraq http://shar.es/0gqhNAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] "Ludwig I. von Bayern wants to be friends on Facebook." - who am I to say no? A king as a friend on FB!Aug 30 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot News Story | Oxford Dictionary Considers Going Online Only .::. Size~: 87.04 KBAug 30 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Bill Gates Foundation Investing In Monsanto? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 24.69 KBAug 30 22:33
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Return to Castle Allenstein http://www.ordensland.de/Allenstein/allenstein.html #swpatAug 30 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: FOSS Patents: Why Paul Allen doesn't want to be a troll .::. Size~: 57.25 KBAug 30 22:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. wasted billions in rebuilding Iraq - Iraq war - Salon.com .::. Size~: 73.06 KBAug 30 22:33
gnufreexI think we have enough evidence against Floyd now. He supports patent Microsoft patent troll on his blog, that is smoking gun.Aug 30 22:34
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] CRTC reinstates ISP speed-matching rules: release http://bit.ly/aUd3o6 CBC http://bit.ly/94dl9i Globe http://bit.ly/93DGudAug 30 22:34
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] Bill Gates' favorite teacher: Sal Khan - http://bit.ly/bQLhEI whose videos are *free*, released under cc by-sa: maybe a lesson there, Bill?Aug 30 22:34
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @peternowak: CRTC commish Denton dissents on matching speeds ruling; small ISPs not allowed to innovate http://bit.ly/9fNE8jAug 30 22:34
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Xbox Live Pricing To Go Up To $60 Per Year http://bit.ly/9Ln4IDAug 30 22:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CRTC encourages competition and investment in the provision of Internet services .::. Size~: 14.62 KBAug 30 22:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: CBC News - Canada - Small internet providers get higher speeds: CRTC .::. Size~: 36.26 KBAug 30 22:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Telcos ordered to share speedy Internet - The Globe and Mail .::. Size~: 84.47 KBAug 30 22:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Sal Khan: Bill Gates' favorite teacher - Aug. 24, 2010 .::. Size~: 76.87 KBAug 30 22:34
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TechrightsBot-trTitle: Telecom Regulatory Policy CRTC 2010-632 .::. Size~: 139.94 KBAug 30 22:34
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Games Story | Xbox Live Pricing To Go Up To $60 Per Year .::. Size~: 49.97 KBAug 30 22:34
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[osamak/@osamak] http://ur1.ca/1e7gjAug 30 22:38
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TPB AFK: The Pirate Bay – Away From Keyboard by Simon Klose &mdash;Kickstarter .::. Size~: 18.62 KBAug 30 22:38
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] IPv6, Google, and Your Business by @sjvn http://ow.ly/2wYIp Why wait? #Google has already jumped into #ipv6Aug 30 22:40
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IPv6, Google, and Your Business «  IT Expert Voice .::. Size~: 47.75 KBAug 30 22:40
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @gregobr: Telnet's response to #CRTC 2010-632 http://bit.ly/anaTeb Wholesale high-speed access services proceedingAug 30 22:41
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] @jwildeboer Dissatisfaction with Ludwig I gave a boost to the Hambacher Fest #oktoberfest #freiheitAug 30 22:41
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] RT @TheDudeDean: xkcd: Exoplanets http://su.pr/2Yn9PV http://bit.ly/bNizRr http://fb.me/vjAVmDEE Let's GO!Aug 30 22:41
-TRT/#techrights-[mgeist] RT @gregobr: TekSavvy Solutions Inc. Reaction to #CRTC Decision: Competitors Allowed to Exist http://tinyurl.com/23n5q6lAug 30 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: TELNET COMMUNICATIONS | Telnet Communications Pleased by Reprieve on Internet Speed Matching but very Concerned about Longer-Term Prospects for Competition following Landmark CRTC Decision .::. Size~: 16.18 KBAug 30 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Exoplanets - StumbleUpon .::. Size~: 10.33 KBAug 30 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Picture of: xkcd: Exoplanets - Mixx .::. Size~: 24.03 KBAug 30 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: xkcd: Exoplanets - StumbleUpon .::. Size~: 10.33 KBAug 30 22:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: "TekSavvy Solutions Inc. Reaction to Landmark CRTC Decision: Competitors Allowed to Exist but Denied the Means to Innovate" on SMR .::. Size~: 24.71 KBAug 30 22:41
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Mono Project Seems to be Dying (Development Virtually Halted) http://ur1.ca/1e7kd #Mono #development #barriers #MoonlightAug 30 22:42
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Mono Project Seems to be Dying (Development Virtually Halted) | Techrights .::. Size~: 148.15 KBAug 30 22:42
-TRT/#techrights-[sjvn] @schestowitz I didn't think there were that many about *me* since Lyons stopped. As far as I know any of the shots on the Web are fine.Aug 30 22:44
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @ffii Daily Mail is considered to be a joke hereAug 30 22:46
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] @sjvn how much was Lyons trolling you? Not so long ago #MicrosoftFlorian aka #Fauxpatents was using Lyon … http://identi.ca/notice/48117640Aug 30 22:50
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Dr. Roy Schestowitz (schestowitz)'s status on Monday, 30-Aug-10 21:49:58 UTC - Identi.ca .::. Size~: 8.33 KBAug 30 22:50
schestowitz"..to smear PJ (calling it "Groklie")"Aug 30 22:51
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Burning Man Goes Open Source For Cell Phones http://bit.ly/bqL7ArAug 30 22:51
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Mobile Story | Burning Man Goes Open Source For Cell Phones .::. Size~: 48.51 KBAug 30 22:51
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Once upon a time it was considered a joke http://www.omnicleaner.com/ @alvar_f #filteringAug 30 22:52
TechrightsBot-trTitle: OmniCleaner .::. Size~: 1.3 KBAug 30 22:52
schestowitz[22:34] [Notice] -TRT to #techrights- [slashdot] Xbox Live Pricing To Go Up To $60 Per YearAug 30 22:53
schestowitzHeheAug 30 22:53
schestowitzMicrosoft wants paybakcAug 30 22:53
-TRT/#techrights-[ffii] Any ideas for the digital agenda? http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=DigitalAgenda&lang=en #euAug 30 22:53
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MinceRgnAug 30 22:55
schestowitz"Aug 30 23:00
schestowitzFor some Americans, the fog of disbelief surrounding the nation's epiphany has begun to lift, with many building new lives free from the illusion of money.Aug 30 23:00
schestowitz"It's back to basics for me," Bernard Polk of Waverly, OH said. "I'm going to till the soil for my own sustenance and get anything else I need by bartering. If I want milk, I'll pay for it in tomatoes. If need a new hoe, I'll pay for it in lettuce."Aug 30 23:00
schestowitzWhen asked, hypothetically, how he would pay for complicated life-saving surgery for a loved one, Polk seemed uncertain.Aug 30 23:00
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schestowitz"That's a lot of vegetables, isn't it?" he said.Aug 30 23:00
schestowitz"Aug 30 23:00
schestowitzhttp://www.theonion.com/articles/us-economy-grinds-to-halt-as-nation-realizes-money,2912/Aug 30 23:00
TechrightsBot-trTitle: U.S. Economy Grinds To Halt As Nation Realizes Money Just A Symbolic, Mutually Shared Illusion | The Onion - America's Finest News Source .::. Size~: 39.09 KBAug 30 23:00
-TRT/#techrights-[glynmoody] TV Producers Will Oppose BBC iPlayer For UK Travelers - http://bit.ly/bwLj7r they seem to be forgetting who this stuff is made for...Aug 30 23:00
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oiaohmPaul Allen will not be able to attack MS or anyone else with agreements due to his prior contracts with Microsoft.Aug 30 23:08
oiaohmschestowitz:  so its basically off limits.Aug 30 23:08
FurnaceBoywhile this is true, it should not head off some examination of the incestuous intertwined strategies here.Aug 30 23:10
FurnaceBoys/true/perhaps true/Aug 30 23:10
FurnaceBoyS. C. O.Aug 30 23:11
FurnaceBoywhere are his contracts with Amazon?Aug 30 23:11
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oiaohmNot my day with this connection.Aug 30 23:14
schestowitzAnd others...Aug 30 23:19
schestowitzLike NovellAug 30 23:19
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FurnaceBoyYou conspiracy nut!Aug 30 23:22
FurnaceBoywhy can't you accept that he's another altruistic megazillionaire who just wants what's best for society!Aug 30 23:22
FurnaceBoywhy do you hate starving africans so much!Aug 30 23:22
FurnaceBoyor, starving Interval employees, or something...Aug 30 23:23
FurnaceBoyoh waitAug 30 23:23
FurnaceBoythere aren't anyAug 30 23:23
FurnaceBoystarving lawyers then.Aug 30 23:23
FurnaceBoywhy do you want the lawyers to starve!Aug 30 23:23
oiaohm_Could be worse we could be drowing the lawyers.Aug 30 23:29
oiaohm_lawyers are becoming very much the allcomists of our age.Aug 30 23:30
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] RT @ffii Any ideas for the digital agenda? http://ec.europa.eu/yourvoice/ipm/forms/dispatch?form=DigitalAgenda&lang=en #euAug 30 23:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] Idea for FB: Verified historical persons as friends. Daily status updates educate friends. #ideaAug 30 23:33
-TRT/#techrights-[jwildeboer] New blog post: Facebook and education - my idea http://jan.wildeboer.net/2010/08/facebook-and-education-my-idea/Aug 30 23:33
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Says #VMware Takeover Would Suit #Novell (Although It Would Not Sidestep Microsoft) http://ur1.ca/1e7tsAug 30 23:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: IPM 2.4 .::. Size~: 2.17 KBAug 30 23:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Facebook and education  my idea | Jan Wildeboer .::. Size~: 21.48 KBAug 30 23:33
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Says VMware Takeover Would Suit Novell (Although Not Sidestep Microsoft) | Techrights .::. Size~: 105.9 KBAug 30 23:33
-TRT/#techrights-[slashdot] Judge Quashes Subpoena of UVA Research Records http://bit.ly/9GoTSvAug 30 23:37
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Slashdot Science Story | Judge Quashes Subpoena of UVA Research Records .::. Size~: 51.33 KBAug 30 23:37
-TRT/#techrights-[techdirt] Is Paul Allen's Patent Madness Really An Attempt To Show The Madness Of Patents? http://dlvr.it/4T0bLAug 30 23:41
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Is Paul Allen's Patent Madness Really An Attempt To Show The Madness Of Patents? | Techdirt .::. Size~: 26.77 KBAug 30 23:41
oiaohm_mono stalled development is intersting.   Since lot of mono resources seamed to be focused everywhere other than it core.Aug 30 23:43
-TRT/#techrights-[schestowitz] #Microsoft is Still Attacking "Open Source" and Standards, But Has No Other Choice http://ur1.ca/1e81tAug 30 23:53
TechrightsBot-trTitle: Microsoft is Still Attacking Open Source and Standards, But Has No Other Choice | Techrights .::. Size~: 107.18 KBAug 30 23:53

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