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02.16.11

Ostracise Miguel de Icaza Like Stephen Elop Should Have Been Ostracised From Nokia

Posted in GNU/Linux, Microsoft, Mono, Novell, Ubuntu, Windows at 5:20 am by Dr. Roy Schestowitz

Miguel de Icaza wants a Windows strategy inside GNU/Linux

Miguel de Icaza
Wikipedia image modified for humourous purposes (this Wikipedia article about Miguel de Icaza says that “[i]“n summer of 1997, he was interviewed by Microsoft for a job in the Internet Explorer Unix team”)

Summary: More news about the Trojan horses that are Mono and Moonlight, more lies from the Mono team are outlined, and a warning about what Miguel de Icaza and his minions are doing to GNU/Linux

APPENDED below is a chat log from 8-9 hours ago (we cannot verify some of the claims made there). While I was asleep somebody called “jjabraham” told us that Canonical’s altercations with Mono seem to be escalating. It is said that the public record is insufficient because the only Web links we got about it are from OMG!Ubuntu! (Mono sympathiser) and the Mono Lobby, as one author called it after we had used/coined the term.

From OMG!Ubuntu!:

With Banshee selected as Ubuntu 11.04′s default music player one question has been circling our minds: will there be two music stores enabled by default, or just one? And if one – which one?

From a Banshee developer, who ought to know that Banshee is a patent trap:

The Banshee maintainers and community have been proud to support GNOME by sending 100% of our FOSS Amazon MP3 store’s affiliate revenue to the Foundation.

[...]

After choosing Banshee as the next default player in Ubuntu, Canonical approached us, concerned with how our Amazon store would affect their Ubuntu One store.

Mono inside GNU/Linux is like Elop inside Nokia or Microsoft Florian pretending to speak for “FOSS”. It is a Trojan horse, accompanied by even bigger Trojan horses like Moonlight with the MPEG cartel’s own Trojan horses inside it. Novell’s and Microsoft’s MVP Miguel de Icaza, who loves the Nokia-Microsoft deal by the way, keeps mimicking dead products like Silver Lie, trying to still give them a boost inside GNU/Linux! Miguel de Icaza too is like an Elop inside GNU/Linux and he deserves to be ostracised for the damage he keeps doing to software freedom. Dr. Richard Stallman has called Miguel de Icaza "a traitor to the Free software community" and quite rightly so based on the continued behaviour of this Trojan horse. De Icaza and his minions used to curse and defame critics — yours truly included — for saying that Moonlight would bring Mono to computers via Web-imposed dependencies. They used to deny the Mono dependency, but they lied. That’s right, they lied, as usual. In fact, the homepage of Moonlight is right inside the Mono site, which only proves the Mono lobby to be a group of liars, to whom saying lies in order to help their Microsoft agenda would seem acceptable.

If there is anything to learn from the imminent death of Nokia [1, 2, 3, 4] it’s that Miguel de Icaza should be forcibly removed from GNU/Linux like Elop should have been removed from Nokia on the same day he entered the company, given Ballmer's own blessings which were posted in Microsoft.com.


*jjabraham has joined #techrights Feb 16 00:50
jjabraham did you guys see mono devs attacking canonical earlier today? Feb 16 00:50
jjabraham some fight about banshee and canonical Feb 16 00:51
jjabraham schestowitz? Feb 16 00:52
DaemonFC half of Ubuntu Desktop is mono-related in 11.04 Feb 16 00:52
DaemonFC the other half is a bastard fork of GNOME that’s broken Feb 16 00:53
DaemonFC Kubuntu has survived this unscathed Feb 16 00:53
jjabraham we can hope that canonical has now seen the true side of mono boosters Feb 16 00:54
jjabraham after they were attacked Feb 16 00:55
jjabraham and will now drop banshee like the black plague that it is Feb 16 00:55
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] Emisia programelor Deutsche Welle, bruiată intenţionat http://is.gd/7blpKY Feb 16 00:55
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Emisia programelor Deutsche Welle, bruiată intenţionat  | Societate | Deutsche Welle | 15.02.2011 .::. Size~: 43.19 KB Feb 16 00:55
DaemonFC I guess I have Ubuntu to thank for trying out KDE 4.x again Feb 16 00:56
DaemonFC I would have kept using GNOME if they hadn’t managed to ruin their implementation of it Feb 16 00:56
jjabraham don’t know too much about what happened between mono / canonical Feb 16 00:58
jjabraham just heard there was some fight or another Feb 16 00:58
DaemonFC well, free ATI drivers have hit a snag Feb 16 00:58
jjabraham about money (who’d a guessed?) Feb 16 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] How to crash the Internet http://is.gd/Qyqp6g Feb 16 00:58
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[satipera/@satipera] German takeover of the New York Stock Exchange http://is.gd/asXOLJ #casinonews Feb 16 00:58
TechrightsBot-tr Title: How to crash the Internet | ZDNet  .::. Size~: 147.91 KB Feb 16 00:59
*trmanco (~trmanco@d72-39-88-249.home1.cgocable.net) has joined #techrights Feb 16 00:59
*trmanco has quit (Changing host) Feb 16 00:59
*trmanco (~trmanco@unaffiliated/trmanco) has joined #techrights Feb 16 00:59
DaemonFC now you need a patent-encumbered library for s3 texture compression support Feb 16 00:59
TechrightsBot-tr Title:        NYSE traders say yes to Germany, no to lederhosen | Reuters  .::. Size~: 77.41 KB Feb 16 00:59
DaemonFC and if you don’t provide it, a lot of games will just crash Feb 16 00:59
jjabraham that sucks Feb 16 00:59
DaemonFC glad I’m in the US, now I can add s3tc support to my list of batteries not included Feb 16 01:00
DaemonFC :) Feb 16 01:00
jjabraham anywho, came to techrights.org tonight to see if schestowitz had mentioned the banshee/canonical fight Feb 16 01:00
jjabraham so I could read up on it Feb 16 01:00
jjabraham but no mention Feb 16 01:00
DaemonFC is there a link? Feb 16 01:00
jjabraham will have to ask around tomorrow to find out what happened Feb 16 01:01
jjabraham no, don’t have a link Feb 16 01:01
jjabraham I was linked to a few twitter messages earlier by a coworker Feb 16 01:02
jjabraham but I didn’t get the full story Feb 16 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[opensourceway/@opensourceway] Don’t hesitate | http://bit.ly/hYlOHV #oywf Feb 16 01:02
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Register now: General Hugh Shelton webcast, February 16 | opensource.com .::. Size~: 50.44 KB Feb 16 01:02
jjabraham just enough to see there was a fight Feb 16 01:02
jjabraham mono devs being greedy, etc Feb 16 01:02
-TRIdentica/#techrights-[rsandu/@rsandu] ♺ @EuroDroid: Google: Android activations up to 350,000 a day – http://bit.ly/dPS0tT Feb 16 01:03
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Google: Android activations up to 350,000 a day » Eurodroid .::. Size~: 25.62 KB Feb 16 01:03
jjabraham ah, looks like it was related to some music store Feb 16 01:05
jjabraham http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/banshee-to-ship-with-ubuntu-music-store-in-ubuntu-11-04/ has a very vague summary Feb 16 01:06
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Banshee to ship with Ubuntu Music Store in Ubuntu 11.04 .::. Size~: 95.3 KB Feb 16 01:06
jjabraham http://gburt.blogspot.com/2011/02/banshee-supporting-gnome-on-ubuntu.html has more Feb 16 01:07
TechrightsBot-tr Title: Gabriel Burt’s Blog: Banshee Supporting GNOME on Ubuntu .::. Size~: 61.66 KB Feb 16 01:07
jjabraham ok, well time for dinner Feb 16 01:08
jjabraham night Feb 16 01:08
*jjabraham has quit (Quit: Page closed) Feb 16 01:08
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