(ℹ) Join us now at the IRC channel | ䷉ Find the plain text version at this address (HTTP) or in Gemini (how to use Gemini).
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| Techrights-sec2 | HTTP connectivity from the RPi there to TR is slow to nothing | Dec 01 00:59 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | thus the cron job for Gemini keeps failing | Dec 01 00:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | adding some loops as a work-around but that won't solve the actual network | Dec 01 00:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | problems | Dec 01 00:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it can take several minutes to fetch the RSS feed from TR | Dec 01 00:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | can the traffic shape have an exclusion specified for this address? we have b/w to spare, it just prioritises gemini over all that ipfs mess | Dec 01 01:00 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I think so it is about http in this case | Dec 01 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | port 81 iirc | Dec 01 01:02 |
| Techrights-sec2 | http is port 80 | Dec 01 01:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | today activelow tried to open a gemini link from irc before it was "ready" so reducing the latency would help a lot | Dec 01 01:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | tc-shaper-05.sh | Dec 01 01:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | for that, a hook is needed inside the CMS or else even if the cron job is | Dec 01 01:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | run frequenly, it will have a big delay | Dec 01 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | i see the file | Dec 01 01:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | running now | Dec 01 01:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Dec 01 01:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it makes interactive SSH very slow, I may have to adjust it | Dec 01 01:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | running the cron script again now, it took 12 minutes before | Dec 01 01:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hopefully it will only take a couple of minutes now | Dec 01 01:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | it also slowed down our whole home connection. Usually I run version 2 of the script , in ~pi/tc | Dec 01 01:16 |
| Techrights-sec2 | try it now, I've prioritized DNS | Dec 01 01:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't have version 02, just 03 and later | Dec 01 01:18 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I don't have version 02, just 03 and later | Dec 01 01:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | okit now runs the new version 5 | Dec 01 01:19 |
| Techrights-sec2 | trying the cron script again, last run was 3.5 minutes | Dec 01 01:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks | Dec 01 01:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | is IPFS running at the moment? | Dec 01 01:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | it always needs to run | Dec 01 01:20 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok | Dec 01 01:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | seems better with interactive SSH now | Dec 01 01:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | and the cron script took 2.3 minutes to run | Dec 01 01:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | if things are ok otherwise, then maybe v 05 should stay | Dec 01 01:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I'll look into not throttling DNS at all, rather than having it in the | Dec 01 01:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | highest priority queue | Dec 01 01:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks, when rianne watches some videos and I do heavy surfing we'll know the full impact | Dec 01 01:23 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ok but it can only affect the traffic going out through the RPi, | Dec 01 01:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | especially traffic originating from the RPi. Other traffic should | Dec 01 01:25 |
| Techrights-sec2 | be unaffecred unless it hogs too much of the general router's connection. | Dec 01 01:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | ipfs tends to do this isf it can | Dec 01 01:26 |
| activelow | no problem, i only didn't know it can take more than 15minutes | Dec 01 01:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | we are tweaking it, activelow | Dec 01 01:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it runs from a home connection, residential/copper | Dec 01 01:27 |
| activelow | the http site was available | Dec 01 01:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | . | Dec 01 01:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | IPFS gets rate 500kbit prio 5 | Dec 01 01:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | The Gemini page has a comment about when the next calculated update should be | Dec 01 01:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | however since the script has failed to connect via HTTP so often, that | Dec 01 01:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | estimate has usually been off. I've added some work-around retry loops. | Dec 01 01:28 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Not infinite loops though. Just 10 tries and then croak. | Dec 01 01:28 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | """ | Dec 01 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Please note the above might be slightly out of date, they are synched from HTTP every 3 hours Next updat | Dec 01 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | e at approximately 04:20 UTC. | Dec 01 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | """ | Dec 01 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Should that be every hour or every other hour instead> | Dec 01 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ? | Dec 01 01:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | nowadays I run the script after every time I publish something, so that leaves IRC posts as as the "odd ones" | Dec 01 01:32 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Excellent. Though I wish there were a convenient way to automate that. | Dec 01 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is now chained as one among 4 tasks | Dec 01 01:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | i used to run it manually from the cli in cavan, the xfce4 machine, now just ctrl+alt+p | Dec 01 01:35 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | It may need its own lock file then, soon if not already | Dec 01 01:37 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | back in some hours | Dec 01 06:33 |
| Techrights-sec2 | added locking to the script also | Dec 01 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | ty | Dec 01 06:33 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | np | Dec 01 08:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just tried the tr- script and it prompts for password now, the key still there..? | Dec 01 08:20 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | Will check... | Dec 01 09:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Try now? | Dec 01 09:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | If that does not match, then please put the public key here or in a file on | Dec 01 09:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the RPi and I will place it in the right position: | Dec 01 09:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ssh-keygen -y -f keyfilename | Dec 01 09:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ok, should work again now | Dec 01 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, no more password | Dec 01 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | thanks for adding the lock, I can see it with 'git show' now | Dec 01 10:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Excellent. I'll have to adjust better to the SSH latency until the traffic | Dec 01 10:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | shaper can be tuned. I think that maybe there should be no throttling | Dec 01 10:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | of /interactive/ SSH | Dec 01 10:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | at 12:10 I will check that the git updates in gemini work OK, as for a number of days they failed and needed manual intervention | Dec 01 10:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | np, with all the ways the script can get called, it is important that | Dec 01 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | only on instance runs at a time. Multiple copies won't break anything just | Dec 01 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | waste time. | Dec 01 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Were the Git updates for Gemini also breaking? | Dec 01 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | That'll be harder to tune, since it uses Git itself and that expects | Dec 01 10:11 |
| Techrights-sec2 | fully reliable networking. | Dec 01 10:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait | Dec 01 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | i need to clarify | Dec 01 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think the git thing was not related to network | Dec 01 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | but to the time we reset it | Dec 01 10:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | running it manually fixed things, but I want toi see it's back to normal | Dec 01 10:12 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Dec 01 10:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR | git at gemini updated OK, I've just checkedd | Dec 01 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I literally took a nap on the chair before that | Dec 01 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Dec 01 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Seems to have run ok, "Next update at approximately 15:09" | Dec 01 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Excellent | Dec 01 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :/ | Dec 01 12:26 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Be sure to move around every 20 minutes or so, at least to stand. | Dec 01 12:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I actually slept with loud music on, that's how tired I got | Dec 01 12:27 |
| Techrights-sec2 | "Power naps" are good, but follow up with stair climbing or something. | Dec 01 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Drinking tea or coffee right befor a cat nap helps since the caffeine kicks in | Dec 01 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | about the time you wake up. | Dec 01 12:29 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Looks like the trial is focusing on royalty and may distract away from Bill | Dec 01 12:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | entirely, if it does not go on for many weeks. | Dec 01 12:37 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Trump was apparently also a frequent flyer. | Dec 01 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they won't throw more than one person under the bus to appease the peasantry | Dec 01 12:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-301121.html#tNov%2030%2015:21:55 | Dec 01 12:47 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, November 30, 2021 | Dec 01 12:47 | |
| Techrights-sec2 | Doesn't company routinely work with NDAs, too? Putting such material in the | Dec 01 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | hands of competitors would be a violation, in principle. M$ can and does | Dec 01 12:47 |
| Techrights-sec2 | rummage through its held data, such as e-mail, on the occasions it wishes to | Dec 01 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | or feels that it is an advantage to do so. 2014 was one of the more widely | Dec 01 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | publicized incidents in that regard. | Dec 01 12:48 |
| Techrights-sec2 | https://money.cnn.com/2014/03/21/technology/security/microsoft-email/ | Dec 01 12:48 |
| -altlink_95a/#boycottnovell-📣 Cloudflare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://money.cnn.com/2014/03/21/technology/security/microsoft-email/ | Dec 01 12:48 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-money.cnn.com | Microsoft defends its right to read your email | Dec 01 12:48 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | I hope I will receive no response but my message will be internalised, with no waste of time to me or them | Dec 01 12:50 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I hope so. The loss of control and integrity caused by outsourcing it one | Dec 01 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | problem. The loss of the skills in-house makes it harder to keep skilled | Dec 01 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | people. That sounds like a tautology but it works that way. You have to | Dec 01 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | have a critical mass of skilled people, for any given focus area, or else | Dec 01 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they will lack peers and leave for where there is a better work environment with | Dec 01 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | actual peers. | Dec 01 12:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | That idiot Samreen already caused at least 2 geeks to leave, which means fewer of us get help now. But whatever, we're just milking what's left in this firm, I have no stake or shares in this clusterf*ck | Dec 01 12:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Outsourcing makes it easier for management to pull the plug and cash out on s | Dec 01 12:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | short notice, too. Fewer physical pieces of hardware to cart to the curb | Dec 01 12:54 |
| Techrights-sec2 | when it is over. Same for headcount. | Dec 01 12:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | but a bit of context, that Google thing was justified by saying they need some call feature to make us look like we're working at honeywell, but I very much doubt GAFAM is needed to accomplish this. Sounds like someone's excuse. | Dec 01 12:56 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I am skeptical. Out of curiosity, which specific features were named? | Dec 01 12:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Video meetings can be done with Big Blue Button. NextCloud for web-based | Dec 01 12:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | uploads, etc. If anything hiding the activities under Google's services, | Dec 01 12:58 |
| Techrights-sec2 | makes it look like a small shop posing as a medium shop. | Dec 01 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | as I understand it, we already do this with other clients and have done that for ages, with a company called gradwell that does asterisk | Dec 01 12:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | the basic idea is, company phones a number, gets through to us | Dec 01 12:59 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Being paranoid about business, outsourcing like that also makes it "easy" | Dec 01 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | to pivot to a different company, say from Google to M$. | Dec 01 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | But tht's just me being negative. | Dec 01 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Asterisk is very useful and does not need much processing power mostly just | Dec 01 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | bandwidth. | Dec 01 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I used to have a manual for it. A friend used to have a small business | Dec 01 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | setting it up and such. Highly profitable until he got bought out. | Dec 01 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | His choice but he would be sitting pretty if he had held on a decade and | Dec 01 13:01 |
| Techrights-sec2 | built things out further. | Dec 01 13:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | our company was established 1998. The earliest client of ours is defunct for like 7 years already, but occasional it involved some proprietary bits, so good riddance | Dec 01 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | however, our own infra, built by geeks with free software, is being ripped apart bit by bit | Dec 01 13:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm the oldest working employee (not age, duration) other than the CEO, which I think looks OK in a CV, but with things like passwords sent to LastPass you know you're dealing with a deeply incompetent entity | Dec 01 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yes, I gather that. However, which microsofters are doing the ripping currently? | Dec 01 13:04 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yep. | Dec 01 13:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are NOT microsofters, just clueless, careless, lazy | Dec 01 13:05 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yep. | Dec 01 13:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | ack | Dec 01 13:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | However if they shave off all the edges, at some point they will be shaving | Dec 01 13:06 |
| Techrights-sec2 | slices off of the core. | Dec 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I believe you already saw my post about Citation/Atlas and "security"; imagine we outsourced much of the operations to that 'clown' and they want us to 'pass' such 'courses'... | Dec 01 13:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is 'indignifying'... if that's an actual word | Dec 01 13:07 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I think so. Demeaning may be the correct term for that. | Dec 01 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne is talking to me about this now... yesterday and today she said, we're becoming like "linux foundation"... a company where the name does not match what people use | Dec 01 13:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | with me caring so little at this stage, let's just say, publicly even, that non-engs typically don't use gnu/linux, cannot be talked to about some technical things, don't seem to care about the company, hire relatives etc. | Dec 01 13:13 |
| Techrights-sec2 | It sounds like that has happened there. | Dec 01 13:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | :( | Dec 01 13:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Hiring relatives and unqualified people might be actionable... | Dec 01 13:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | back in a bit | Dec 01 13:17 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it would be best to try to figure out how to smooth out the rough patches | Dec 01 15:30 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I notice periodic intervals of severe latency with v5. There are also | Dec 01 15:31 |
| Techrights-sec2 | times when interactive SSH returns to normal. | Dec 01 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | headsup: depending on my activity I might be switzhing between v2 and v5 back and forth | Dec 01 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I should elaborate a little | Dec 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have about 5 or 6 versions lying about | Dec 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I used to try to edit them but to no avail, as I have poor grasp | Dec 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | with v2 browsing on that machine is a joke | Dec 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's laughable bad | Dec 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | and synergy/barrier is also a joke | Dec 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | where v5 comes in handy is maybe ipfs, as it typically times out with requests for large objects | Dec 01 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it maxes up the bw most of the time | Dec 01 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | it would be best to try to figure out how to smooth out the rough patches | Dec 01 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I notice periodic intervals of severe latency with v5. There are also | Dec 01 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | times when interactive SSH returns to normal. Same here. PF is easy to under | Dec 01 15:34 |
| Techrights-sec2 | stand but not tc. It should not time out though, just slow to a trickle | Dec 01 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | fwiw, I have copied and chowned v2 to your homedir | Dec 01 15:36 |
| Techrights-sec2 | thanks | Dec 01 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have started uploading a long video while it transcodes, so v5 is too slow me that | Dec 01 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is 40 mins about epo and mentions, as usual, covid patents along the way | Dec 01 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | I usually start uploadinmg about halfway through encoding, then rsync the file at the end, do checksums | Dec 01 15:38 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Yes the HTTP and SSH outgoing get caught in the queue. | Dec 01 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | with ipfs iundex (html) it can take haldf an hour to upload abou 2mb, but it typically -- not always -- get there 'on time' for the next step | Dec 01 15:39 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Ok then outgoing bulk SSH should /not/ be in the queue, or else that part | Dec 01 15:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | of the queue should be capped at the router's limit. | Dec 01 15:44 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Can you test tc-shaper-06.sh briefly? I might make more changes but | Dec 01 16:09 |
| Techrights-sec2 | want to see if that is the right direction. | Dec 01 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, hang onn, Daily Links | Dec 01 16:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | diff'ed 5 and 6, now running v6 | Dec 01 16:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | 4pm, 21.2k reqs in gemini | Dec 01 16:13 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | That's a lot of Gemini activity. I hope not much is bot traffic. | Dec 01 16:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | A DDG article is still top. | Dec 01 16:23 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Strangely Git is also near the top. | Dec 01 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | this makes sense as many people in Twitter link to it | Dec 01 16:24 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Strangely Git is also near the top.Git? | Dec 01 16:24 |
| psydruid | https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/articles/introducing-buy-now-pay-later-in-microsoft-edge/m-p/2967030/highlight/true | Dec 01 16:25 |
| -altlink_cc9/#boycottnovell-📣 Cloudflare: microsoft.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/articles/introducing-buy-now-pay-later-in-microsoft-edge/m-p/2967030/highlight/true | Dec 01 16:25 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techcommunity.microsoft.com | Introducing Buy now, pay later in Microsoft Edge - Microsoft Tech Community | Dec 01 16:25 | |
| psydruid | Microsoft should be fighting for its right to kill itself | Dec 01 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | Everyone loves Microsoft | Dec 01 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe they learned from Mozilla | Dec 01 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | yesterday I opened firefox for somehting and was greeted with a full-tab/page ad | Dec 01 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | their VPN | Dec 01 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'their' | Dec 01 16:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | resellers | Dec 01 16:26 |
| psydruid | I saw it for the second time yesterday too | Dec 01 16:27 |
| psydruid | I need to install LibreFox and be done with that | Dec 01 16:27 |
| psydruid | wait | Dec 01 16:27 |
| psydruid | LibreWolf | Dec 01 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | LibreFox | Dec 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can get sued for that | Dec 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they own all foxes | Dec 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | in browsers | Dec 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | also fennex | Dec 01 16:28 |
| psydruid | yeah, big mistake | Dec 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | fennec and similar | Dec 01 16:28 |
| psydruid | capital mistake even | Dec 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | I once read they had sort of intimidated librewolf over the name | Dec 01 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that was about a year ago and I forgot the name, would take ages to find or pin down the link | Dec 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | he said something along the lines of Mozilla watching closed what he was doing in github | Dec 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | he has since then left github afaik | Dec 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | *closely | Dec 01 16:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | being watched is not a compliment | Dec 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like pervery mjg | Dec 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | watching you | Dec 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | or EPO sending lawyers to "watch" me | Dec 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | which they did | Dec 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | linkedin etc. | Dec 01 16:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | stalking is the right word | Dec 01 16:30 |
| psydruid | I'll be self-hosting everything from home in the future with mirrors I control as well | Dec 01 16:31 |
| psydruid | GAMMA is in the business of cyberstalking | Dec 01 16:31 |
| schestowitz | > Hope you're very well, | Dec 01 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > For those interested in computer security, this week I've written | Dec 01 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > about why it's so hard to teach: | Dec 01 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 16:56 |
| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/teaching-cybersecurity/ | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Dr. Andy Farnell on Teaching Cybersecurity in an Age of ‘Fake Security’ | Techrights | Dec 01 16:57 | |
| schestowitz | > --- | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > If these article messages are unwelcome/annoying please let me know | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > and I will stop sending you announcements. Otherwise I'd love to hear | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > your thoughts and feelings about these and other tech-rights issues | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > affecting us all these days, or about the book Digital Vegan. | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > (https://digitalvegan.net) | Dec 01 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-digitalvegan.net | Digital Vegan Book | Dec 01 16:57 | |
| schestowitz | > --- | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | > all best wishes and thanks, | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | comments: https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/11/29/1457249 | Dec 01 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-soylentnews.org | Why We Can't Teach Cybersecurity - SoylentNews | Dec 01 16:57 | |
| schestowitz | psydruid: ah, META | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | so GAMMA now | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | like Germany GAMMA GROUP | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | of Finfisher | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | the Germany Pegasus | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | *German | Dec 01 16:57 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_Group https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinFisher | Dec 01 16:59 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Gamma Group - Wikipedia | Dec 01 16:59 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | FinFisher - Wikipedia | Dec 01 16:59 | |
| schestowitz | Article on teaching cybersecurity now accessed/viewed almost 5,000 times based on number of requests for the book photo. | Dec 01 17:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have just changed back to v2 again, seeing that the upload is slow but I will run v6 again later... maybe we c | Dec 01 17:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | an script a different one for each time of the day | Dec 01 17:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | hbeck, maybe I'll make a GUI panel by which to quikckly shift between modes | Dec 01 17:22 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: if you host from home we can do 'co-op' or colo | Dec 01 17:22 |
| schestowitz | I help host yours too and make it mutual, based on trust (serving authentic content) | Dec 01 17:23 |
| schestowitz | we could always use more nodes | Dec 01 17:23 |
| schestowitz | as you can see from the above, we're pushing the network capacity at my residence to its limits already, depending on time and protocl | Dec 01 17:23 |
| schestowitz | so we need to traffic-shape | Dec 01 17:23 |
| psydruid | schestowitz, I want to, but I'll get back with it to you in a few months as my personal situation is unstable at the moment | Dec 01 17:23 |
| schestowitz | o | Dec 01 17:24 |
| schestowitz | ok | Dec 01 17:24 |
| psydruid | I was hoping more people would come forward with offers to host things | Dec 01 17:24 |
| psydruid | because if we are all doing it, who is responsible and who are you going to sue and/or punish? | Dec 01 17:25 |
| psydruid | or cut off from the internet even | Dec 01 17:25 |
| schestowitz | the ISPs fear this | Dec 01 17:25 |
| schestowitz | one of many reasons they discourage home hosting | Dec 01 17:25 |
| schestowitz | and cripple upload speeds | Dec 01 17:25 |
| psydruid | I know and that's why I like and advocate it | Dec 01 17:26 |
| schestowitz | it would land them DMCA letters and stuff | Dec 01 17:26 |
| schestowitz | at the point of thinking whether to disconnect their clients | Dec 01 17:26 |
| schestowitz | BTW, of course Mr. GAFAM/GAMMA/Goolag did nothing | Dec 01 17:26 |
| schestowitz | after more than a week | Dec 01 17:26 |
| schestowitz | just hot air | Dec 01 17:26 |
| psydruid | what was his complaint even? | Dec 01 17:27 |
| schestowitz | give me a month | Dec 01 17:27 |
| schestowitz | I'll do a video or article about it when it cools down | Dec 01 17:27 |
| psydruid | ok | Dec 01 17:27 |
| schestowitz | maybe a xmas gift for him ;-) | Dec 01 17:27 |
| schestowitz | he sent it from the US for thanksgiving | Dec 01 17:28 |
| schestowitz | they do have xmas there | Dec 01 17:28 |
| schestowitz | of course I could countersue or sue | Dec 01 17:28 |
| schestowitz | but it's a waste of my time | Dec 01 17:28 |
| schestowitz | (and money) | Dec 01 17:28 |
| schestowitz | losers go to lawyers | Dec 01 17:28 |
| schestowitz | the rest of us get things done | Dec 01 17:28 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: can you read a short draft re EPO? | Dec 01 17:29 |
| schestowitz | upload took 2 hours (!) | Dec 01 17:29 |
| psydruid | it is a bit worrying that such lawsuits can ruin people in our corrupted western societies | Dec 01 17:29 |
| schestowitz | we experimented with 'tc' | Dec 01 17:29 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: at best, they waste time and harm morale | Dec 01 17:30 |
| schestowitz | I never got sued | Dec 01 17:30 |
| schestowitz | they'd be smart not to touch me, I know my rights and would stand for them | Dec 01 17:30 |
| psydruid | I've just finished watching my lecture, so I can read it now | Dec 01 17:30 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: http://techrights.org/2021/12/01/epo-vs-science/ | Dec 01 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | EPO Dislikes Science and Scientists | Techrights | Dec 01 17:30 | |
| schestowitz | thanks, it is short | Dec 01 17:31 |
| psydruid | "blind faiths" -> "blind faith" (faith is uncountable in this sense, I believe) | Dec 01 17:35 |
| psydruid | "less experience examiners" -> "less experienced examiners" | Dec 01 17:36 |
| psydruid | that's it | Dec 01 17:37 |
| schestowitz | thanks, done!! | Dec 01 17:37 |
| schestowitz | if you watch it, you will see in most videos on EPO I mention in passing COVID patents | Dec 01 17:37 |
| schestowitz | the MSM picked up on it | Dec 01 17:37 |
| schestowitz | and they keep pushing this | Dec 01 17:37 |
| psydruid | I'm going to watch it now | Dec 01 17:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | cool | Dec 01 17:58 |
| psydruid | I'm getting Microsoft vibes from GCC (General Consultative Committee) | Dec 01 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | MAC | Dec 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | used to be GAC | Dec 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | search techrights for it to better understand the history of those EPO panels | Dec 01 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | stacked | Dec 01 18:08 |
| Techrights-sec2 | I've simplified tc-shaper-06.sh even more, perhaps this is a bit closer to | Dec 01 18:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | the goal? | Dec 01 18:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I will rerun it now and see how it goes | Dec 01 18:15 |
| Techrights-sec2 | Thanks. | Dec 01 18:16 |
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| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: hi | Dec 01 18:41 |
| schestowitz | s http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/12/01/apples-and-oranges/ | Dec 01 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com | schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » UK Government: Let’s Compare Apples to Oranges | Dec 01 18:41 | |
| schestowitz | simplified | Dec 01 18:41 |
| schestowitz | CDC can be the same | Dec 01 18:41 |
| schestowitz | excess deaths data can be a month behind | Dec 01 18:41 |
| schestowitz | before they process all the death certs | Dec 01 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, There's something new going around that's pretty nasty. | Dec 01 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | The news isn't talking about it. | Dec 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | the economy? | Dec 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | wait | Dec 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | there is inflation | Dec 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | THAT IS GOOD | Dec 01 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of a bronchitis-like condition that lasts about a month and puts people in the hospital. | Dec 01 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | But it's not COVID. | Dec 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | there is WORKER SHORTAGE | Dec 01 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | They're testng negative for COVID. | Dec 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | There is economic rebound!! | Dec 01 18:44 |
| schestowitz | unemployment at 5%%!!!! | Dec 01 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, did you see my comments about wage theft? | Dec 01 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | Earlier. | Dec 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | yes | Dec 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | I took a nap | Dec 01 18:45 |
| schestowitz | rianne found the whole thing about sleeping bag hilarious | Dec 01 18:45 |
| DaemonFC | Well it is cheaper than paying the electric company. | Dec 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | I know | Dec 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | we never turn on the heating | Dec 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | unless we have a guest | Dec 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | which did not happen this year | Dec 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | last year maybe just employees of internet/energy supplier | Dec 01 18:46 |
| schestowitz | no heating on since 2019 | Dec 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | nice... | Dec 01 18:47 |
| schestowitz | when we had guests | Dec 01 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it costs about $500-600 in extra electric per year to run the heat over the cold months. | Dec 01 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | That's for a 1 bedroom apartment. | Dec 01 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | It costs nothing to sit back and let the landlord's furnace for the building work harder. | Dec 01 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | Also, other tenants. | Dec 01 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | So I disabled our baseboards at the fuse box. | Dec 01 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | I can turn them back on if it gets horrible. | Dec 01 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | But this business where it turns on and heats the room to 68 because it got down to 57 degrees is just wasting power. | Dec 01 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I keep track of my usage compared with "all neighbors" and "efficient neighbors". ComEd knows which units are listed as what kind of an apartment in the area. | Dec 01 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | I use a lot more than my "neighbors" for June, July, and August, about the same for May and September, and much less for the rest of the months. | Dec 01 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | So this is basically where I keep the average utility cost down after running the air conditioner hard for about 90-100 days. | Dec 01 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy had no idea what I was talking about until I showed him the electric bills. | Dec 01 18:55 |
| DaemonFC | He was like "How much was our electric bill this month?". I go "$37.". "Wow, so cheap." "How much next month?" "ComEd says projected is $31." He goes, "What about "$100+?" I said, "That was with air conditioning.". | Dec 01 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | I turn that bad boy all the way to hahaha. | Dec 01 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | It gets up to 110 outside and it's 68 degrees in here. | Dec 01 18:56 |
| DaemonFC | That takes a lot of electricity. | Dec 01 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | Then winter comes along. By January/February we're getting snow dumped on us, and the temperature can turn very very negative. | Dec 01 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | Sometimes we'll get a few days where it's -18 or -30 if you count wind chill factor. | Dec 01 18:58 |
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| DaemonFC | So trying to bring the temperature up takes as much or more power than running the air conditioner in the summer. | Dec 01 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | The harder you fight, the more your electric bill costs. | Dec 01 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I about died when my cousins in Indiana told me they were paying gas bills of like $500 one winter to heat their house. | Dec 01 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | It wasn't even a huge house. | Dec 01 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | $500 and that's like 10-15 years ago. | Dec 01 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | So with inflation, they're paying heat bills equal to my entire rent! | Dec 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | For about a third of the year, at least. | Dec 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody thinks about these things. | Dec 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | The bank's like, "Want a mortgage? Sign here!". | Dec 01 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | "Oh, uhm, now you need homeowner's and you pay all your utilities, and we don't fix stuff, and if you miss payments over the next 30 years we take the house back and sue you and you don't own anything. Have fun!". | Dec 01 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | yup | Dec 01 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | i never took loans | Dec 01 19:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | living within one's means | Dec 01 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | I signed Mandy up for enhanced Short Term Disability insurance at Walmart. | Dec 01 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | no fancy things like hair stylists and cars | Dec 01 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cut my hair today | Dec 01 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | This is the first open enrollment he qualified and it's cheap, cheap cheap. | Dec 01 19:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | took less than 5 mins | Dec 01 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | I haven't seen it come out of a paycheck yet, but I calculated about $2-3 per two weeks. | Dec 01 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | And if anything happened where he can't work, Family and Medical Leave Act covers his absence for 6 months, and Short Term Disability kicks in and pays 80% of his normal salary. | Dec 01 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart throws in basic insurance where it's like you get $250 a week if you don't buy more. Most employers don't even do that much. | Dec 01 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | But I calculated that he could get over 4.5x as much money by kicking in $6 in premiums each month. | Dec 01 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> no fancy things like hair stylists and cars | Dec 01 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | There's nothing fancy about my car, but it works and it works well. | Dec 01 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: rianne and I laugh here | Dec 01 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | she read it also | Dec 01 19:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | about how Mandy thought you had paid so little | Dec 01 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | so innocent | Dec 01 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | It's always funny to see people cut me off and then they're surprised that this old rustbucket is fast. | Dec 01 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | our power/energy costs would double if we used heating | Dec 01 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead we clothe better | Dec 01 19:05 |
| DaemonFC | Of course it's fast. It has a big engine that you can't even buy anymore and I just had it mostly rebuilt! | Dec 01 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | cheaper to buy better sets of bedding, sealing off doors | Dec 01 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | to build up or retain heat in one | Dec 01 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | tonight will be minus 2 | Dec 01 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we'll do ok without heating | Dec 01 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | last week it was minus 5 | Dec 01 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't get incredible gas mileage though. | Dec 01 19:06 |
| DaemonFC | So we take the commuter rail into the city or out to Indiana if we have to go long distances. | Dec 01 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | cars suck | Dec 01 19:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | you cannot use their full capacity | Dec 01 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | heavy traffic and lights | Dec 01 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | you end up accelerating over and over again | Dec 01 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | I have it tuned up pretty well and it does get better mileage than the EPA window sticker said it should when it was new. | Dec 01 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | sometimes walking is faster (jams) | Dec 01 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | Not bad for 300,000-ish miles later. | Dec 01 19:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The source code of Winamp leaked. | Dec 01 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | GitHub took it down. | Dec 01 19:09 |
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| DaemonFC | It was everything, including their in_whatever plugins for all audio and video formats. | Dec 01 19:09 |
| DaemonFC | With this it should be possible to backport these plug-ins to the Winamp 2.95 release. | Dec 01 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsoft took it down | Dec 01 19:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | shithub is justa brand | Dec 01 19:10 |
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| DaemonFC | Yeah, I didn't have to argue with Mandy about him wanting to strip down to his underwear and flip the heat on anymore. | Dec 01 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | First of all, he doesn't know how to re-enable it. | Dec 01 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | the homer simpson scene | Dec 01 19:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | sunday no church | Dec 01 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | Secondly, he knows that it pretty much triples your power bill. | Dec 01 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Marge and the kids off at church. | Dec 01 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | running a laptop OK | Dec 01 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | we run 6 concurretly | Dec 01 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | 24/7 | Dec 01 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | Homer on the couch in his underwear drinking a beer. | Dec 01 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | all of them combined generate some heat and cost less than one single heater | Dec 01 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | That was basically what happened when I was a kid. | Dec 01 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | Dad at home sleeping until 3 PM on Saturday because he spent the entire week getting 2 hours of sleep per night so he could do his correspondence courses and play Dungeons and Dragons on his computer. | Dec 01 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | Then if he was awake on Sunday and mom wanted to go to church, he didn't give a shit if she made me and my brother go, but he never went unless someone died and their funeral was at the church or it was Easter or Christmas. | Dec 01 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | He's such a weird person. | Dec 01 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | After my mom divorced him, he started writing notes and leaving them on my Aunt's door asking if she wanted to go on dates with him. | Dec 01 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | More leftovers tonight. | Dec 01 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | I'm thinking turkey, bacon, cheddar sandwiches. | Dec 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | There's a lot of turkey left. | Dec 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | I hope iBotta gives me another one this month. | Dec 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | That would be awesome. You can make so many things with the leftovers. | Dec 01 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | I made burritos out of some of it last night. | Dec 01 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy said my "refried beans" were much better this time. | Dec 01 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | It's really easy to make them in an instant pot. | Dec 01 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | What would be all night soaking them and then simmering or slow cooking for many hours turns into rinse and pressure cook for an hour. | Dec 01 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | They're very, very cheap too. | Dec 01 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I bought another 20 pound bag of basmati rice. We're not out, but Walmart isn't so good about stocking them. | Dec 01 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | I found one more bag and it was on a riser buried under other stuff where only I could get it down. | Dec 01 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | Every time you go through one of these bags, you get a cool bag with a zipper on it. | Dec 01 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | Could probably use these as free reusable shopping bags for Aldi and stuff. | Dec 01 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | They sell "reusable bags" but they're not good material. You can only use them 7-8 times before they have holes poked into them, and they're plastic. | Dec 01 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Dec 01 19:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | o/ | Dec 01 19:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry, was typing article | Dec 01 19:24 |
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| Techrights-sec2 | "The EPO is wasting money on stock market gambling" == financialization | Dec 01 19:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | they start to bring in more money through gambling than through the normal | Dec 01 19:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | work activities. At that point the normal work activities become a charade | Dec 01 19:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | at best, so they can pretend that they are active in a particular field of | Dec 01 19:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | endeavor. More often the normal work activities just get in the way of the | Dec 01 19:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | gambling so in response any staff still involved in normal work activities | Dec 01 19:52 |
| Techrights-sec2 | get fired in one way or another. | Dec 01 19:52 |
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| schestowitz-TR | https://twitter.com/BartonBlankson/status/1466141238088847375 | Dec 01 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BartonBlankson: @schestowitz How come all these shady old men like Thomas Bach in control of sports can hang onto their positions f… https://t.co/v4CzFsJkxw | Dec 01 20:44 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BartonBlankson: @schestowitz How come all these shady old men like Thomas Bach in control of sports can hang onto their positions f… https://t.co/v4CzFsJkxw | Dec 01 20:44 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/brianlinux/status/1466075498174418954 | Dec 01 20:49 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@brianlinux: https://t.co/3bcxtZ5nFb | Dec 01 20:49 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Please Note: Bill Gates and Donald Trump Met Countless Times. They’re Friends, Not Foes. | Techrights | Dec 01 20:49 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BartonBlankson/status/1466141238088847375 | Dec 01 20:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 20:50 |
| schestowitz | How come all these shady old men like Thomas Bach in control of sports can hang onto their positions for so long. Why would he not transparently show his interview with Peng Shuai? @WTA | Dec 01 20:50 |
| schestowitz | should invite Peng Shuai to Europe or USA for true confirmation of life/wellbeing. | Dec 01 20:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 20:50 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/LaurieInMadison/status/1466119587938934785 | Dec 01 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@LaurieInMadison: @schestowitz Apparently not, because as of today, #ReportDoor is still plagiarizing, as found via a #GoogleNews search. | Dec 01 20:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/GyroGen_TM/status/1466052285251960833 | Dec 01 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@GyroGen_TM: @schestowitz Need laws against plagiarism too, that's the problem! | Dec 01 20:50 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/jrodwyer/status/1465984193427644421 | Dec 01 20:50 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrodwyer: "In persisting with its campaign to have Wikileaks founder Julian #Assange extradited from the United Kingdom, the… https://t.co/d5yEIySR5f | Dec 01 20:50 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@jrodwyer: "In persisting with its campaign to have Wikileaks founder Julian #Assange extradited from the United Kingdom, the… https://t.co/d5yEIySR5f | Dec 01 20:50 | |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Julia O'Dwyer Reminder ribbon🎗 | Dec 01 20:50 |
| schestowitz | @jrodwyer | Dec 01 20:50 |
| schestowitz | · | Dec 01 20:51 |
| schestowitz | 10h | Dec 01 20:51 |
| schestowitz | "In persisting with its campaign to have Wikileaks founder Julian #Assange extradited from the United Kingdom, the #US continues to expose its own systemic crimes" | Dec 01 20:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 01 20:51 |
| schestowitz | https://nitter.eu/eric_heffernan/status/1465945360287764484 | Dec 01 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.eu | ERIC HEFFERNAN (@eric_heffernan): "Our own personal block buttons which all platforms have. I should control it for me. You should control it for you. Etc" | nitter | Dec 01 20:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/davidames/status/1465937098570178563 | Dec 01 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@davidames: @schestowitz Finally the Transformers crossover we've all been waiting for. 😉 | Dec 01 20:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/InvokerGod02/status/1465912133644742662 | Dec 01 20:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@InvokerGod02: @TheDragonFeeder @schestowitz https://t.co/fSJua9uoGa | Dec 01 20:51 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@InvokerGod02: @TheDragonFeeder @schestowitz https://t.co/fSJua9uoGa | Dec 01 20:51 | |
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