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| Techrights-sec | Drop caps remains but in a different manner. | Sep 02 03:48 |
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| Techrights-sec | See the lines starting at # 345 | Sep 02 03:48 |
| Techrights-sec | less -N tuxmachines.cs | Sep 02 03:48 |
| Techrights-sec | s | Sep 02 03:48 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | checking | Sep 02 03:50 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it seemed to have no effect | Sep 02 03:50 |
| Techrights-sec | however I see that it failed to trigger on | Sep 02 03:51 |
| Techrights-sec | http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/01/Micro_Making_File_Editing_Easier_in_Linux_Terminal.shtml | Sep 02 03:51 |
| Techrights-sec | yes I see why, it might be best to roll back to using the class="dropcap-first" | Sep 02 03:51 |
| Techrights-sec | as the marker. | Sep 02 03:51 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Micro: Making File Editing Easier in Linux Terminal" | Sep 02 03:51 | |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | I hope to stay up all night today (if I can) | Sep 02 03:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | going to get some tea, let me know if there's something that needs doing | Sep 02 03:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I have suprisingly ample free time today | Sep 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think the US too had soime holiday | Sep 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | (but don't keep track of their holidays) | Sep 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne gave to 3 elap[hant charities last night, as she said she would upon passing | Sep 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | arindam is meanwhile getting on OK, but I need to send him guidance | Sep 02 03:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | for now we don't have an image uploader, just the informal wget method | Sep 02 03:56 |
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| Techrights-sec | Well to revisit the EPC¹ question, | Sep 02 03:58 |
| Techrights-sec | ¹European Patent Convention (1973) | Sep 02 03:58 |
| Techrights-sec | versus the EPC ² | Sep 02 03:58 |
| Techrights-sec | ²European Patent Court (illegla, unconstitutional fraud) | Sep 02 03:58 |
| Techrights-sec | The Wikipedia article on the EPC¹ is garbage and is filled with a lot of | Sep 02 03:58 |
| Techrights-sec | EPO garbage and points to their site a lot. Wikipedia is all about squatting | Sep 02 03:58 |
| Techrights-sec | or parking on a page, plus edit wars, so I am not sure how to address the | Sep 02 03:59 |
| Techrights-sec | question of EPC¹ vs EPC² | Sep 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if you check the LF article in wikipedia | Sep 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | see the notices at the to | Sep 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *top | Sep 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | same issue for FSFE | Sep 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | those pages are marketing brochures | Sep 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wikipedia is inherently flawed | Sep 02 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the PR people just borrow the brand "wikipedia" as an authoritative name | Sep 02 03:59 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, wikipedia very design is flawed and vulnerable to marketing teams. | Sep 02 04:00 |
| Techrights-sec | See the two paragraphs starting with "However, the EPC provides further indications on what is patentable." | Sep 02 04:00 |
| Techrights-sec | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_patent_convention | Sep 02 04:00 |
| Techrights-sec | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_patents_under_the_European_Patent_Convention | Sep 02 04:00 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | European Patent Convention - Wikipedia | Sep 02 04:00 | |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Software patents under the European Patent Convention - Wikipedia | Sep 02 04:00 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | "check wikipedia about us" = check what text we're maintaining on wikipedia | Sep 02 04:00 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | even their battistelli article is an utter joke | Sep 02 04:00 |
| Techrights-sec | A poor joke at that, yet some how it is necessary to counter it. | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | I stopped trying to make an effort with Wikipedia after they started sucking up | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | to m$ over the ODF and standards pages fell under their control. I was rather | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | sceptical of Wikipedia's premise before that, having seen from the day it was | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | announced that various squatters and teams took over specific topics and | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | presented their warped and, often, wrong spin in place of either the established | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | real-life situation XOR presenting a well-rounded debate / summary of the debate | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | tldr; the whole thing is a corporate marketing brochure posing as a useful | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | resource | Sep 02 04:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I found out a very long time ago that editing wikipedia is a waste of time unless you fix z typo | Sep 02 04:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | nobody will roll back a type fix | Sep 02 04:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | anything else will vanish by the "real owner/s" of a said page | Sep 02 04:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's "look but don't touch" | Sep 02 04:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or it's like moving an item at home | Sep 02 04:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne will sooner or later put it back where it was | Sep 02 04:05 |
| Techrights-sec | yep | Sep 02 04:09 |
| Techrights-sec | no it would be a waste of time to try to edit wikipedia, that's for sure | Sep 02 04:09 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's a common thing | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you can move it | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but it'll be back to the "right" place | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | anywaym wikipedia is not mine | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like fedora is not mine | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's ISCBM's | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they control the council | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so it's never my duty to "fix" wikipedia | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's illusion of crowdsourcing | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | let it perish | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the sad thing, corporate and polical articles sink some rather good bios and science articles there | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like social control media, maybe it'll be better off dead | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or WE will be better off without it | Sep 02 04:10 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | --- | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when people tell me "Wikipedia says... blah blah, maybe change this and that" I roll by eye a bit | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just like contacting "journalists" | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's a waste of time as the publishers choose not only the topics | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but also how to cover those topics | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the sponsors call all the shots | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so you're 'masturbating' with that fantasy of media still being accountable to readers of "the world" | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they're agenda pushers, and unless you pay them they don't give a shit about you | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | remember hos microsoft FLEW 'journalists' to write about OOXML. Even people from poor countries. | Sep 02 04:13 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | --- | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | while sites that specialise in topics are typically very open to being proven wrong | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's not about persistence, like the 'gamification' (or ... gaming) of wikipedia | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and so you end up not with meritocricy | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but pateintocracy or people with the deepest pocket playing the longest | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so basically the way things used to be... was likely better | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and like social control media, the terrain got easier to game | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like W-E gaming Microsoft pages | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they just buy more "players" | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like nation states making tens of thousands of twitter bots | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they need not even post anything | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | just game the rating system for "trrend"s and "trending" and false percception of popularity | Sep 02 04:17 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they can cause instability in enemy states this way | Sep 02 04:17 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 02 04:18 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | seems rianne passed with distinction | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | btw, re nat friendman | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | do we want to expose him before or after he shows up somewhere else? | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it can be strategic, but... | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | we do have more materisl | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | iirc, his next venture might have been more of that crypto 'coin' scams | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | similar to madame zemlin | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne does not speak in public | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | seeing what I'm subjected to from trolls | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | in spite of not being on the spectrum or anything | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so she wants to keep a low profile | Sep 02 06:29 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the spouses of miguel and nat are becoming a liability | Sep 02 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | same for jim zemlin | Sep 02 06:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Congratulations to Rianne on the excellent results! | Sep 02 06:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Hard to say, what are the advantages of publishing now? If the material is | Sep 02 06:30 |
| Techrights-sec | publsihed closer to him performing new antics they might have effect. I would | Sep 02 06:30 |
| Techrights-sec | guesstht if they are published now, there is time for them to blow over or | Sep 02 06:30 |
| Techrights-sec | be normalised. | Sep 02 06:30 |
| Techrights-sec | Does the LF have a charter or constitution anywhere? If so, what are the | Sep 02 06:30 |
| Techrights-sec | priorities actually listed there? | Sep 02 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | hang on... | Sep 02 06:32 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | http://techrights.org/2022/09/01/linux-foundation-mission-creep/ | Sep 02 06:32 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Formally Changed Its Mission! (Based on IRS Files) | Techrights | Sep 02 06:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | spent too much time chasing an older reference | Sep 02 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I previosuly compared, based ont ehri official site, how things had changed | Sep 02 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | like community being removed | Sep 02 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and the words changing | Sep 02 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I did several such posts, buyt would take further work to find for little net benefit | Sep 02 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | though the purpose is, to you, just to affirm what you already knoiw | Sep 02 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so I needn't convince you at all | Sep 02 06:34 |
| Techrights-sec | Cryptocurrencies are a total waste of electricity and do further damage | Sep 02 06:35 |
| Techrights-sec | by trying to coopt the nickname 'crypto'; The mainstream press encourages that. | Sep 02 06:35 |
| Techrights-sec | (both) | Sep 02 06:35 |
| Techrights-sec | yes but having a document makes it official and possibly a matter on which legal | Sep 02 06:35 |
| Techrights-sec | action can be taken to correct their behavior | Sep 02 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | wait, do you mean there might be a truly legal basis for someone, even not LT himself (too blackmailed, see IRC logs for today and Thursday) | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | , doing something to restore the mission? | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it did not work in eff, that's for sure | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gillmore was driven out | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | based on words I saw, not even peacefully | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they were fueding | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and he wasn't the survior | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *vivor | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | *feuding | Sep 02 06:37 |
| Techrights-sec | If they are legally obligated to do certain things according to their charter | Sep 02 06:37 |
| Techrights-sec | then yes | Sep 02 06:37 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | based on what I posted yesterday, the IRS keeps getting told different things about what LF actually is | Sep 02 06:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | imagine patents or other things being like this | Sep 02 06:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | many laws are | Sep 02 06:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | constittutions less so | Sep 02 06:39 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | but there are amndments and revolutions | Sep 02 06:39 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 02 07:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | https://nitter.it/flukejones/status/1565495725810921474#m | Sep 02 07:05 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-fluke 🦀 (@flukejones): "As much as I dislike t3chrights website and the dribble posted there, this should be criminal - it looks a lot like cashing out before the crash: http://techrights.org/2022/07/07/baker-salaries/"|nitter.it | Sep 02 07:05 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | https://nitter.it/theglitch76/status/1565513833199853571#m | Sep 02 07:06 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Glitch (@theglitch76): "It took me way too long to figure out that "Baker" was a last name and not an occupation"|nitter.it | Sep 02 07:06 | |
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| DaemonFC | Whoopsie | Sep 02 07:48 |
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| Techrights-sec | Their divergence from their own bylaws is of interest. | Sep 02 11:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some people donated to them | Sep 02 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | or paid a share from a penguin0themed credit card | Sep 02 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I still don't believe there's grounds/basis for a lawsuit | Sep 02 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | unless filed on behalf of Torvalds | Sep 02 11:08 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and likely for something else | Sep 02 11:08 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 02 11:09 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | rianne "AA distinction" | Sep 02 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | now it's confirmed, they are sending along the physical cert | Sep 02 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | postal sdervice on strike | Sep 02 11:51 |
| Techrights-sec | Nice! Congratulations! | Sep 02 11:51 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there's a country where they revoke your citizenship inside the embassy and then british cops kidnap you on the corridor and steal your laptop, sending | Sep 02 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it to a third nation | Sep 02 11:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | and a fourth country puts bugs and secret cameras for the third country and they say it's perfectly OK because of some girls in a fifth country | Sep 02 11:56 |
| Techrights-sec | yep; the kidnapping from inside the embassy is highly illegal and in violation | Sep 02 11:57 |
| Techrights-sec | of what were previously well-respected treaties. | Sep 02 11:57 |
| Techrights-sec | who had /almost/ no issue with the target, just wanting his address | Sep 02 11:57 |
| Techrights-sec | and ended up having lies spread in their names | Sep 02 11:57 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 02 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I realise rianne has no video or audio of hers only | Sep 02 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe some photos or use playing pingpong, but that's about it | Sep 02 12:23 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 02 12:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | obv she is not "on fb" | Sep 02 12:23 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | I've noticed that special kinds of "spaces" (not visible, but some kind of special chars) cause the CMS to show an odd symbo9l | Sep 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I am familiar with wordpress having trouble with certtin such chars | Sep 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | they can invalidate rss feeds at times | Sep 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | what a dumb charset design | Sep 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | kate shows them as blank with coloured borders around the blank | Sep 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so they are at least a bit visible | Sep 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | there is one example of that in arducam (posted just now in TM) | Sep 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's not the first time today | Sep 02 13:55 |
| Techrights-sec | There are a lot of hidden types of characters. Can you point to a paragraph | Sep 02 13:55 |
| Techrights-sec | or sentence at a URL with an example of the specific one(s) you are thinking | Sep 02 13:55 |
| Techrights-sec | of? They can be processed out easily enough once they are identified. | Sep 02 13:55 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 02 13:55 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | see second URL in https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/09/01/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Sep 02 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos" | Sep 02 13:58 | |
| Techrights-sec | . | Sep 02 14:04 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 02 14:04 |
| Techrights-sec | https://invisible-characters.com/200A-HAIR-SPACE.html | Sep 02 14:04 |
| Techrights-sec | Are other unicode characters doing ok? | Sep 02 14:04 |
| Techrights-sec | The data is in the db ok, insofar as the hairspace is preserved. | Sep 02 14:04 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-invisible-characters.com | U+200A HAIR SPACE | Sep 02 14:04 | |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the other chars are &#something but I made a away to avoid/convert them | Sep 02 14:04 |
| Techrights-sec | I figure that site is probably using it in a legitmimate manner, but I suspect | Sep 02 14:05 |
| Techrights-sec | other use it and other non-printing characters as markers. | Sep 02 14:05 |
| Techrights-sec | I see the problem with the non-printing character but the unicode stuff seems | Sep 02 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | ok otherwise | Sep 02 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | checking | Sep 02 14:12 |
| Techrights-sec | do you have an URL handy with some of the other characters which have not yet | Sep 02 14:18 |
| Techrights-sec | been escape and are problematic? | Sep 02 14:18 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think I can handle the rest OK and I put my changes in rianne's shell scripts too, so the older issue | Sep 02 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | has rarely crept in lately | Sep 02 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | all in all, it's improving over time and we get faster | Sep 02 14:19 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's just the news getting slower | Sep 02 14:19 |
| Techrights-sec | I'd like to make sure that the output is correct. The input and the db contents | Sep 02 14:20 |
| Techrights-sec | are ok, but this is perhaps a symptom of something else. | Sep 02 14:20 |
| Techrights-sec | The x200A hair spaces can be zapped and replaced with regular spaces, but | Sep 02 14:20 |
| Techrights-sec | if this is symptom of a wider problem it would be best to figure out the | Sep 02 14:20 |
| Techrights-sec | real problem and fix that (and then also zap the x200a hair spaces too) | Sep 02 14:20 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | charset and unicode novice here (still getting better over time), but I get warnings like these still | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | any time I post until maybe >50 recent post (the culprit falls off the far edge): | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Creating temporary directories and files | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Creating static XHTML and GemText hierarchies | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Updating SSI files | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Writing the RSS feed for HTTP | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 130. | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Writing the Atom feed for Gemini | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Writing the Gemini index | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Pinging via MQTT | Sep 02 14:24 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Error: Problem setting TLS options: File not found. | Sep 02 14:25 |
| schestowitz__[TR] | Erasing temporary directories and their files. | Sep 02 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | marius and rianne see those two warnings/errors too, it might confuse them a bit | Sep 02 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | over time the first few stages also seem to slow down a bit | Sep 02 14:26 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe a DB or query optimisation thing | Sep 02 14:26 |
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| Techrights-sec | the db was only in the sketch stage when it was pushed into production so | Sep 02 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | there are a lot of refinements missing, such as indexes and cascading deletion | Sep 02 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | the structure could use a lot of improvement but it is uncomfortable, at best, | Sep 02 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | to rearrange the structure on a database which is in active use while it is in | Sep 02 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | active use; That'll haunt us for a while. | Sep 02 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | Indexes might be possible to safely add, once the right values are figured out. | Sep 02 14:38 |
| Techrights-sec | The cascading deletion probably not. | Sep 02 14:38 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | it actuslly looks not so much like a db issue | Sep 02 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the pages or entries are updated immediately | Sep 02 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's when the gemini and web pages get regenrated that it takes a little longer | Sep 02 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | maybe because it does queries against many existing entries, but that is read-only | Sep 02 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I think it creates the same pages over and over again when in fact, it typically just needs to rewrite about 3 entries because of prev and next | Sep 02 14:41 |
| Techrights-sec | That will be slower than the HTML page generator because so much processing | Sep 02 14:42 |
| Techrights-sec | has to be done under the hood to find and remove HTML structures in a particular | Sep 02 14:42 |
| Techrights-sec | way, in a particular order per document; | Sep 02 14:42 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, that is likely. It needs to handle skips in sequences better and the | Sep 02 14:42 |
| Techrights-sec | current approach has too much redundancy. | Sep 02 14:42 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | you asked, which errors do rianne and marius see | Sep 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the main ones that look off/odd: | Sep 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Wide character in print at /usr/local/bin/tm-generate-feed.pl line 130. | Sep 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | Error: Problem setting TLS options: File not found. | Sep 02 14:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Oh. The TLS error from mosquitto there, Error: Problem setting TLS options: File not found. | Sep 02 14:43 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok the second one can be addressed. Checking now | Sep 02 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | yes, but I want to emphasise that things are overall good | Sep 02 14:45 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | the site had no downtime at all and these niggling issues are typically minor details | Sep 02 14:45 |
| Techrights-sec | That should be good now. Where should the list of MQTT clients be annotated? | Sep 02 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | You, I, TM, and Git all have ones. The certificates are good for just over | Sep 02 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | three years. If no other changes are needed between now and then, new ones will | Sep 02 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | have to be created and deployed then. | Sep 02 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | The wide character problem won't likely be solvable until upgrading to Rakulang | Sep 02 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | It might be stifled, but then so would other error messages. Though | Sep 02 14:53 |
| Techrights-sec | there might be a way around just that one line. | Sep 02 14:53 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | thanks, excellent. | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I need to observe, over time, when this issue occurs and what automated substitutions to make | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | it's just a matter of time | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | when you say "the list of MQTT clients" do you mean keeping abrest of all accounts that are hooked to the agent/server? | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | if these APIs are open to all, maybe we can list clients that can be installed | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | much like the gemini software page | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | oh, wait | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I just saw "tux machines site update" | Sep 02 14:56 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so I assume you configured the client to have a topic | Sep 02 14:56 |
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| Techrights-sec | Yes | Sep 02 15:05 |
| Techrights-sec | that was a test of the new certificate for that client | Sep 02 15:05 |
| Techrights-sec | topic in mqtt corresponds to channel in irc | Sep 02 15:23 |
| Techrights-sec | when a client is subscribed to the topic it can receive messages sent to that | Sep 02 15:23 |
| Techrights-sec | channel, mosquitto_sub shows only the payload of that message nothing else | Sep 02 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | gonna go out to send parcel, pick up something, see how much I can save on food (usually worth the time as if I was paid to work full time) | Sep 02 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | [more so with soaring "RRP"in food shops; we looked at some restaurant menus in town, they too skyrocketed] | Sep 02 15:46 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | back in about 2 hours | Sep 02 15:46 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 02 17:28 |
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| schestowitz-TR2 | sent parcel, earned 10 | Sep 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | spent 10 on food that would otherwise cost 50 | Sep 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | total savings 40pounds, in 1-2 hours of walking exercise | Sep 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | i hopem this 'life hack' remains feasible for another decade, it can save a ton of money | Sep 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | price of milk went up by about 50% in just a number of months | Sep 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | didn't noticed until today as we don't buy milk and eggs ypically | Sep 02 17:31 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | their price might double soon | Sep 02 17:31 |
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| Techrights-sec | A lot of staple items are increasing in price drastically. Reports here | Sep 02 18:54 |
| Techrights-sec | are that at the same time the farmers are getting the same or less than before. | Sep 02 18:54 |
| Techrights-sec | So one can conclude that it is the shops eating the difference. | Sep 02 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | speaking of farmers, I bet the price of pitchforks went up by a lot | Sep 02 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | so fewer can buy one | Sep 02 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | bargain hunting is one form of protest | Sep 02 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I had to nag a lot just to get someone to actually serve me at the till | Sep 02 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | prices double, service eliminated | Sep 02 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | some "progress"... | Sep 02 19:05 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | --- | Sep 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I have a battle left to win against vgery spicy chilli | Sep 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | I bought many packs | Sep 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | had to take a break halfway | Sep 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | will finish the battle later tonight | Sep 02 19:07 |
| schestowitz-TR2 | taking a break, rest, biab | Sep 02 19:07 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Sep 02 19:31 |
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