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schestowitz-TR | "Josh and Kurt talk about a blog post that explains there isn’t really an open source software supply chain. The whole idea of open source being one thing is incorrect, open source is really a lot of little things put together. A lot of companies and organizations get this wrong." https://opensourcesecurity.io/2022/10/02/episode-343-stop-trying-to-fix-the-open-source-software-supply-chain/ | Oct 03 06:10 |
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-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-opensourcesecurity.io | Episode 343 – Stop trying to fix the open source software supply chain – Open Source Security | Oct 03 06:10 | |
schestowitz-TR | they seem to be saying more or less the same as what I said about it | Oct 03 06:10 |
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Techrights-sec | They seem to failing to see, or perhaps denying, the distributed, decentralized | Oct 03 08:12 |
Techrights-sec | nature of FOSS. There's a lot of emergent behavior as it is sometimes called. | Oct 03 08:12 |
Techrights-sec | from the FOSS side. There are also powerful or at least influential opponents | Oct 03 08:12 |
Techrights-sec | who work for the very idea of decentralization to disappear. So of course | Oct 03 08:12 |
Techrights-sec | they will not ever acknowledge it. | Oct 03 08:12 |
schestowitz-TR | tes, this is why we fight back, if not on practical grounds then at least correcting the narrative | Oct 03 08:13 |
schestowitz-TR | Jimmy and the Sunshine boys get paid to distort the narrative | Oct 03 08:13 |
schestowitz-TR | to make FS look bad | Oct 03 08:13 |
schestowitz-TR | and pass control to Pentagon contractors | Oct 03 08:13 |
schestowitz-TR | that's how it is | Oct 03 08:13 |
schestowitz-TR | calling spade a "spade | Oct 03 08:13 |
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Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 03 08:13 |
schestowitz-TR | Snyky Jimmy | Oct 03 08:14 |
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Techrights-sec | :( | Oct 03 08:27 |
Techrights-sec | Or Blackduck | Oct 03 08:27 |
schestowitz-TR | DenyDuck got bought | Oct 03 08:28 |
schestowitz-TR | and tbh I think they don't do well | Oct 03 08:28 |
schestowitz-TR | the past 2 years they're barely visible | Oct 03 08:28 |
schestowitz-TR | and unlike Synk they don't have much funded, I think | Oct 03 08:28 |
schestowitz-TR | OSI turned them away, but not LF | Oct 03 08:28 |
schestowitz-TR | irinically OSI then took money from Microsoft itself | Oct 03 08:28 |
Techrights-sec | Wasn't there a third FUD machine too? Snyk, Blackduck, ____ | Oct 03 08:41 |
Techrights-sec | It's helpful that Blackduck is doing poorly, they had no value added | Oct 03 08:41 |
Techrights-sec | and peddled only FUD. Eventually that became univerally known and their | Oct 03 08:41 |
Techrights-sec | credibility vanished even among those that wanted to rent some FUD | Oct 03 08:41 |
Techrights-sec | https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/02/fifteen-year-old-black-duck-software-gets-its-exit-selling-to-synopsys-for-565-million/ | Oct 03 08:41 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Fifteen-year-old Black Duck Software gets its exit, selling to Synopsys for $565 million • TechCrunch | Oct 03 08:41 | |
schestowitz-TR | WhiteSOurce | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | didn't even heard of them in years | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe defunct | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | OpenLogic was gone for years, then mentioned a little lately, I think OSI works with them | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | closing a Microsoft circle (jerks) | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | OpenLogic is where Microsoft's Stormy Peters came from too (after HP, IIRC) | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | working for a Microsofter | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | Bruce Perens called them out on it | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | DenyDuck wrote some numbers on papers to "lookl good" | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | there was no truck of 'Benjamins' | Oct 03 08:42 |
schestowitz-TR | a lot of this sector is sheer fraud, like Sheela Microsoft's Bakkt | Oct 03 08:42 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, that is the whole point, to peddle fraud. Managers with unfounded opininons contact them wishing to buy some backing supporting their bad decisions | Oct 03 08:46 |
Techrights-sec | based on unfounded opinions (instead of empirical facts). That buys them | Oct 03 08:46 |
Techrights-sec | time to either blame someone or something else for their bad decisions or | Oct 03 08:46 |
Techrights-sec | time to find a new job so that the collapse in someone else's responsibility. | Oct 03 08:46 |
schestowitz-TR | zero-sum where "I steal your money" with 'clever' ploy | Oct 03 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | instead of creating anything of real value | Oct 03 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | same in her prior employers | Oct 03 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | prpopaganda mills and resellers of Microsoft | Oct 03 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | snyk = DenyDuck 1.1 | Oct 03 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | SFC= OSI 1.1 | Oct 03 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | LF = stuart cohen (OSDL) reborn, first with a mask for a few years (Murdock as CTO), until they get the straitjacket on LT and his circle | Oct 03 08:48 |
Techrights-sec | ck | Oct 03 08:48 |
schestowitz-TR | ck lewis ;-) | Oct 03 08:50 |
schestowitz-TR | after workout I'll record 2 epo videos | Oct 03 08:50 |
schestowitz-TR | I ended up covering GPL plagiarism in a post, not a video | Oct 03 08:50 |
schestowitz-TR | rianne goes to hand over to final docs/papers to the solicitors at noon | Oct 03 08:50 |
schestowitz-TR | i don't see how they can turn down the application | Oct 03 08:50 |
schestowitz-TR | truss will have caused brain drain by now | Oct 03 08:50 |
schestowitz-TR | not that any other country thrives atm | Oct 03 08:50 |
Techrights-sec | excellent | Oct 03 08:50 |
Techrights-sec | truss has already added to the damage caused by bojotheclown | Oct 03 08:52 |
schestowitz-TR | yes, I could go on and on about it | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | but refrained in recent years as I don't wish to get in trouble with the local authss | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | gchq is about 700 meters from us in heron house | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | and rianne has this application | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | don't want them to identify the spouse on some "list" | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | so I focus on stuff like EPO instead | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | I keep explaining to my dad, | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | to us the current turmoil is not that big a deal | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | because we live in a bubble of choice | Oct 03 08:56 |
schestowitz-TR | working from home, buying discounts like 80% of the time | Oct 03 08:57 |
schestowitz-TR | inc. this laptop I'm using right now | Oct 03 08:57 |
schestowitz-TR | you can now get them even cheaper, it's amazing! | Oct 03 08:57 |
schestowitz-TR | not that I need another laptop, rianne and I use 7 machines, not counting the pi that's in the living roomn acting mostly | Oct 03 08:57 |
schestowitz-TR | as server, http proxy, gemini, file storage, backup (5am each morning), and few other things | Oct 03 08:57 |
schestowitz-TR | I turned off the LEDs a few months ago to save energy until it's positioned somewhere more visible | Oct 03 08:57 |
schestowitz-TR | it's still running ipfs but throttled | Oct 03 08:57 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 03 08:58 |
Techrights-sec | Just avoid laptops with Nvidia= | Oct 03 08:58 |
schestowitz-TR | in RELATIVE terms, Manchester is doing OK because of foreign investment, inc. football and estate | Oct 03 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR | we have an influx of residents | Oct 03 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR | but that won't last forever | Oct 03 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR | this latest laptop is neat, good bang for the buck | Oct 03 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR | athlon+radeon so can do video acceleration too | Oct 03 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR | it mostly does kate, lagrange, many terminals, and xchat | Oct 03 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR | oh, obs studio sometimes, but it can cope | Oct 03 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR | the footprint (ram) of the above is small | Oct 03 09:00 |
schestowitz-TR | thunderbird is like 5 times more than all the above combined | Oct 03 09:00 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 03 09:01 |
schestowitz-TR | checking... | Oct 03 09:05 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't know the answer. | Oct 03 09:05 |
schestowitz-TR | regarding the buttoms, I reckon I'll fit them onto that or another Pi | Oct 03 09:05 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't have a soldering gun and borrowing is harder when I try to avoid people | Oct 03 09:05 |
schestowitz-TR | I limit myself to one "outsider" if it's very important like getting a reference for the application | Oct 03 09:05 |
schestowitz-TR | a risk worth taking | Oct 03 09:05 |
schestowitz-TR | (there was something else, not important, that I wanted to utter but forgot. will pass, move on..) | Oct 03 09:05 |
Techrights-sec | If TR is redon based on what we've learned from migrating TM, it should | Oct 03 09:06 |
Techrights-sec | probably use full time stamps internally. | Oct 03 09:06 |
schestowitz-TR | i get distracted by irc a lot | Oct 03 09:12 |
schestowitz-TR | it never truly stopds | Oct 03 09:12 |
schestowitz-TR | and not predictable either | Oct 03 09:12 |
schestowitz-TR | but s/n ratio is OK | Oct 03 09:12 |
schestowitz-TR | (dang, still trying to recall the not-so-important thign I forgot, despite knowing it was rubbish) | Oct 03 09:12 |
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Techrights-sec | excellent | Oct 03 10:27 |
schestowitz-TR | abck from workout, will record soon | Oct 03 10:44 |
schestowitz-TR | irc ver on-optic | Oct 03 10:44 |
schestowitz-TR | politics are in #techpol | Oct 03 10:44 |
schestowitz-TR | it's good that I finsihed meeting those whom I needed to meet | Oct 03 10:44 |
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schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/ | Oct 03 13:15 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.it | Oct 03 13:15 | |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/ | Oct 03 13:16 |
schestowitz-TR | https://nitter.it/zoobab/status/1576881797618466821#m | Oct 03 13:16 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "Linux Foundation makes 200.000.000USD/year, not bad for a charity http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/pseudo-charitable-front-group/"|nitter.it | Oct 03 13:16 | |
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schestowitz-TR | "FOSSlife Team" = Microsoft liars. Watch them helping Microsoft... basically protecting criminals by blaming "Open Source" https://www.fosslife.org/hackers-target-it-staff-fake-job-offers-and-open-source-software see http://techrights.org/2022/10/01/blame-shifting/ | Oct 03 16:23 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.fosslife.org | Hackers Use Fake Job Offers and Open Source Software to Target IT Staff | Oct 03 16:23 | |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | Microsoft Doesn’t Like Open Source; It’s Badmouthing, Stereotyping, Attacking It (to Shift Blame) | Techrights | Oct 03 16:23 | |
schestowitz-TR | OTA | Oct 03 16:23 |
schestowitz-TR | "Club LF" | Oct 03 16:24 |
schestowitz-TR | (LPI) | Oct 03 16:24 |
schestowitz-TR | Microsoft pays, we parrot | Oct 03 16:24 |
schestowitz-TR | the L in LPI stands for "Linux" | Oct 03 16:24 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 03 16:25 |
Techrights-sec | that's how it usually works, once there are sellouts on staff or in decision | Oct 03 16:25 |
Techrights-sec | making positions. worst of all is the situation where there are actual | Oct 03 16:25 |
Techrights-sec | microsofters inside the organization. | Oct 03 16:25 |
schestowitz-TR | just checked, it links to a Microsoft operative inside ZDNet | Oct 03 16:26 |
schestowitz-TR | Liam Tung | Oct 03 16:26 |
schestowitz-TR | ZDNet is a Microsoft/LF hostile force | Oct 03 16:26 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm told lwn is too, but it's nowhere as bad as this | Oct 03 16:26 |
Techrights-sec | LWN was important, like ZDNet too though well over a decade ago | Oct 03 16:28 |
schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Wow, the Web site of Spamnil is about as ignored as his videos. "13 views"... what's the point even running the thing? | Oct 03 16:30 |
schestowitz-TR | is it wolrth reviving the free software credibility index? | Oct 03 16:35 |
schestowitz-TR | btw, rianne submitted all the papers today | Oct 03 16:35 |
schestowitz-TR | I was just reading some recipes | Oct 03 17:09 |
schestowitz-TR | no JS | Oct 03 17:09 |
schestowitz-TR | (gemini) | Oct 03 17:09 |
Techrights-sec | :) | Oct 03 17:10 |
schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> 1990s WWW: we send you description of a page. 2000s: we send you a page linked to other pages and light code to enhance appearance. 2010s: you need some big programs for easier navigation in site. 2020s: you cannot enter our site at all until you download and run our proprietary JS bundles. | Oct 03 17:12 |
Techrights-sec | :) | Oct 03 17:18 |
Techrights-sec | 2020s we send an unauthenticated program to run amok on your system's resources | Oct 03 17:18 |
schestowitz-TR | it is an improvement over sending you some .EXE file to run on WIndows | Oct 03 17:19 |
schestowitz-TR | but a big step back considering what COULD be accomplished with Web standards | Oct 03 17:19 |
schestowitz-TR | Chrome has already becme an _"OS"_. See what ryan wrote about it this morning. | Oct 03 17:21 |
schestowitz-TR | and what mozilla means to Gulag. | Oct 03 17:21 |
Techrights-sec | Chrome (Chromium) as well as FF are no longer browsers but the crappiest, | Oct 03 17:22 |
Techrights-sec | leakiest, and most insecure and inefficient form of VM | Oct 03 17:22 |
Techrights-sec | FFS skip the browser and just have people fetch a docker or qemu image >:( | Oct 03 17:22 |
Techrights-sec | That's the logical next step. | Oct 03 17:22 |
schestowitz-TR | they use terms like sandbox and container | Oct 03 17:24 |
schestowitz-TR | can you imagine using such a contruct to read recipes that I send to rianne if I like them? | Oct 03 17:24 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe an ol' grandma's recipe book too should be a "VM" | Oct 03 17:24 |
schestowitz-TR | with userspace and doas? | Oct 03 17:24 |
schestowitz-TR | doas over | Oct 03 17:24 |
schestowitz-TR | *doas oven | Oct 03 17:24 |
schestowitz-TR | is that compatgible with screen readers? if not, you can make a complaint | Oct 03 17:25 |
schestowitz-TR | reminds me of activescript/trash/swf files as 'sites' | Oct 03 17:28 |
schestowitz-TR | that was 1990s as well | Oct 03 17:28 |
schestowitz-TR | the web has bad ideas | Oct 03 17:28 |
schestowitz-TR | sometimes they perish after a while | Oct 03 17:28 |
schestowitz-TR | but this time around it's like activex except it penetrates mobile too | Oct 03 17:28 |
schestowitz-TR | this could doom the web | Oct 03 17:28 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe mobile "apps" are built with web/js frameworks | Oct 03 17:28 |
schestowitz-TR | this is why a "modern" phone needs so many CPUs cores and has a battery like or old portable televisions | Oct 03 17:28 |
schestowitz-TR | *life | Oct 03 17:28 |
Techrights-sec | Those caused almost as much damage, the difference being was that ActiveX was | Oct 03 17:29 |
Techrights-sec | only on optional sites; Now days the javascripts are the only gatekeepers to | Oct 03 17:29 |
Techrights-sec | essential services. | Oct 03 17:29 |
schestowitz-TR | in south korea activex penetrated banks and iirc gov. sites | Oct 03 17:29 |
Techrights-sec | 11 cores? Ok, not 11 but way too many : https://cellularnews.com/mobile-phone/best-mobile-processors-top-10-high-performing-smartphones/ | Oct 03 17:30 |
Techrights-sec | No wonder there is an electricity crisis with all those billions of phones | Oct 03 17:30 |
Techrights-sec | (portable supercomputers) needing recharging many times a day. | Oct 03 17:30 |
Techrights-sec | Then to add further injury, the wall warts are usually left plugged in when | Oct 03 17:30 |
Techrights-sec | not charging by the dickheads using the "phones" | Oct 03 17:30 |
Techrights-sec | Yes, South Korea has borderline terminal stage microsoftianism | Oct 03 17:30 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-cellularnews.com | Best Mobile Processors: Top 10 High Performing Smartphones | Oct 03 17:30 | |
schestowitz-TR | based on stattcounter korea is slow to dopt gnu/linux | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | i last chedked today, hoping to spot a change | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | the country has a cultural problem | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | and so concepts like software freedom fall on deaf ears | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | an american tech who worked with koreans explained this to me over a decade ago | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | after he had wrapped his head around thr way they think | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | seoul mikght be ok for holiday, but that's it | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | trhey immerse their life in the dumbest tech | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | similar to japanese, but there are differences | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | like robotics vs tech inside your toilets | Oct 03 17:34 |
schestowitz-TR | or kpop vs jpop | Oct 03 17:35 |
schestowitz-TR | they are not the same | Oct 03 17:35 |
schestowitz-TR | but rather depressing vision of life and existence and being | Oct 03 17:35 |
schestowitz-TR | a swede neighbour once told me they're know to be wortking strityluy 5 to 9 but not beyond | Oct 03 17:35 |
schestowitz-TR | then there't he ubi thing | Oct 03 17:35 |
schestowitz-TR | i think germans are like this too | Oct 03 17:35 |
schestowitz-TR | brits just go to the pub with colleagues, but stay extra hours sometimes | Oct 03 17:35 |
Techrights-sec | The country does not exist independently. It is a vassal state of M$ | Oct 03 17:37 |
Techrights-sec | It's been like that since the 1990s | Oct 03 17:37 |
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Techrights-sec | otr: holy shit is it hard to find mention of her book online | Oct 03 17:44 |
schestowitz-TR | are you using baskersoft fartfox? | Oct 03 17:44 |
schestowitz-TR | *bakersoft? | Oct 03 17:44 |
schestowitz-TR | going to post daily links, then take a break (rest) | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | good news: not so much microsoft spam/googlebombs so far this week | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | great news: irc s/n ratio was OK today and rianne got a lot done | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | annoying: seeing some new epo trash, but my expectations from reforms are low anyway | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | side note: earlier today i wasnted to tell rianner about the "immune-resistant" variant and then forgot to | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | when she came back home I suddenly remembered | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | so mystery solved | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | we like such news because it reaffirms our choices | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | though it's cruel re eollctive interest | Oct 03 17:50 |
Techrights-sec | ... for some definitions of OK :/ | Oct 03 17:50 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 03 17:50 |
schestowitz-TR | any improvement in S/N (IRC) is good news | Oct 03 17:51 |
schestowitz-TR | techpol is active | Oct 03 17:51 |
schestowitz-TR | rant: icewm is on github | Oct 03 17:53 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe predating microsoft, but still | Oct 03 17:53 |
schestowitz-TR | phoronix links a LOT to github | Oct 03 17:53 |
schestowitz-TR | even when it's just a mirror | Oct 03 17:53 |
schestowitz-TR | or an offical independent site has the same news or better | Oct 03 17:53 |
Techrights-sec | many remain there on GitHub for a variety of invalid reasons | Oct 03 17:53 |
schestowitz-TR | lwn quality did not worsen, it was always like that | Oct 03 17:53 |
schestowitz-TR | phoronix, otho, did worsen | Oct 03 17:53 |
schestowitz-TR | and you can smell the "businessman" from a mile (he prefers the term "enterprenuer") | Oct 03 17:53 |
schestowitz-TR | i hope microsoft loses a LOT of money there | Oct 03 17:54 |
schestowitz-TR | the other day a blogger you follow shilled GitHub Actions | Oct 03 17:54 |
schestowitz-TR | i didn't link to that | Oct 03 17:54 |
schestowitz-TR | he praised it | Oct 03 17:54 |
schestowitz-TR | but they lose money on it | Oct 03 17:54 |
schestowitz-TR | they entice peopple with workfload 'freebies' | Oct 03 17:54 |
schestowitz-TR | it's not free | Oct 03 17:54 |
schestowitz-TR | it's manipulating of the market | Oct 03 17:54 |
schestowitz-TR | *tion | Oct 03 17:54 |
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Techrights-sec | bill has shown time and again that he is willing to lose money in an area | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | indefinitely just to ensure that no one else makes money there either | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | Then related to that you have the long list of economically unviable purchases | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | make, appartently, only to prevent GNU/Linux and other FOSS systems from | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | establishing a foothold in *any* visible market. Mojang was one example, | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | there was starting to be a generation of kids that were finding out how | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | much better any of the GNU/Linux distros were and induced absolute panic | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | in Redmond by actually beginning how to learn to use said distros. | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | The kids did not care about freedom, yet, but would have been exposed eventually | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | What they were interested in was the better performance and improved ease of | Oct 03 18:01 |
Techrights-sec | use of Minecraft on Linux over Minecraft on windoze | Oct 03 18:02 |
Techrights-sec | https://www.engadget.com/2015-03-04-minecraft-notch-mojang-microsoft-purchase.html | Oct 03 18:03 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Microsoft bought 'Minecraft' after a single tweet by its creator | Engadget | Oct 03 18:03 | |
schestowitz-TR | it used to be OK until FF started experiumenting with url abbreviation | Oct 03 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | and gulag started rewriting urls using JS | Oct 03 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR | for tracking purposes | Oct 03 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR | anyway, lagrange also sucks at copy/paste support | Oct 03 18:05 |
Techrights-sec | Yes they both also hide the real URL | Oct 03 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR | fwiw | Oct 03 18:05 |
schestowitz-TR | the status bar does not help and FF does not intercept and undo this behaviour | Oct 03 18:06 |
schestowitz-TR | it's like mozilla is funded by gulag or something....... | Oct 03 18:06 |
Techrights-sec | :/ | Oct 03 18:06 |
schestowitz-TR | rest | Oct 03 18:43 |
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Techrights-sec | ack | Oct 03 22:26 |
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