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schestowitzhttps://pleroma.site/notice/9pZChiPEuoxpXK292GDec 03 00:10
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schestowitz"Dec 03 00:10
schestowitz(private message)Dec 03 00:10
schestowitzHi Roy,Dec 03 00:10
schestowitzI like a lot what you write, and I am sure you are sensitive to the topic. Hence I wonder: Dec 03 00:10
schestowitzWhy do you have google on your website? Is this just "laziness" or is there something I am missing?Dec 03 00:10
schestowitz"Dec 03 00:10
schestowitzDo you mean Google search?Dec 03 00:10
schestowitz> Looking at it, DMN could have something wrong with its characterDec 03 04:06
schestowitz> encoding despite using WordPress.  It claims to be delivering UTF-8Dec 03 04:06
schestowitz> though.Dec 03 04:06
schestowitz> Dec 03 04:06
schestowitz> If it keeps happening, I'll have to add a work around or contact theirDec 03 04:07
schestowitz> webmaster.Dec 03 04:07
schestowitz> Dec 03 04:07
schestowitz> I spotted some possible white-space trackers in other sites the otherDec 03 04:07
schestowitz> day and have added lines to remove them.Dec 03 04:07
schestowitz> Dec 03 04:07
schestowitz>> Now it shows up OK as utf8 and I fixed the Sao Paula bit... "a" withoutDec 03 04:07
schestowitz>> the accent.Dec 03 04:07
schestowitz> Ok.  The only change I made was adding    <meta charset="UTF-8" /> toDec 03 04:07
schestowitz> the head of the HTML document.Dec 03 04:07
schestowitzI later found another offending char in Daily Links. The "O" in Antonio  (UN thing), IIRC. I think that's from another feed, so probably not DMN's fault.Dec 03 04:07
schestowitzWould you consider reordering the feeds to lay more closely together related items? E.g. DMV next to TorrentFreak and techdirt? Each iteration like this may put you closer to something which merits public code release; I reckon some others may find the toolset handy. I used to make GUIs for command line stuff, but that was a long time ago.Dec 03 04:07
schestowitzMaybe Daily Links can one day do for news what Phoronix did to benchmarking with PTS.Dec 03 04:07
schestowitz>>>> Sometimes you need to make something public without it being 'too'Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz>>>> public like a tweet...Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz>>>>Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz>>>> "I only told some mates and ma' mom..."Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz>>>>Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz>>> Oh well.  Keep in mind that it looks like he is buying silence onDec 03 08:23
schestowitz>>> something or maybe several things.  For him the sums involved are paltryDec 03 08:23
schestowitz>>> so he may not even be involved directly.Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz>> it's his foundationDec 03 08:23
schestowitz>>Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz> Ok but I see his foundation as just a tax dodge to provide shelter forDec 03 08:23
schestowitz> his personal slush fund which he uses to advance his politics, mainlyDec 03 08:23
schestowitz> via the desktop monopoly.Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz> Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz> I can't see NDAs being overturned any time soon but I hope thatDec 03 08:23
schestowitz> non-disparagement clauses in contracts get the axe quickly.  That willDec 03 08:23
schestowitz> allow many more to speak about what is being done by and inside M$.Dec 03 08:23
schestowitzI did not ask about the nature of the NDA; I think we never had one of these before. Notice I mentioned neither the person nor the company, so...Dec 03 08:23
schestowitz> One of the feeds, openrightsgroup, has some invalid characters orDec 03 08:26
schestowitz> something else wrong with it.  I'll see if I can figure it out andDec 03 08:26
schestowitz> contact their web master.  The EFF's feed still presents a wall of textDec 03 08:26
schestowitz> though.Dec 03 08:26
schestowitzHey, it's not like EFF is good with tech or something :-)Dec 03 08:26
schestowitzNotice chars below.Dec 03 08:27
schestowitzFrom TF also Dec 03 08:28
schestowitzI found four examples of bad chars and corrected these manually, so I'm good to go now...Dec 03 08:40
schestowitz> panel’s first impeachment hearing this week, a move DemocraticDec 03 08:55
schestowitz> lawmakers highlighted as further evidence that the president’sDec 03 08:55
schestowitz"panel’s first impeachment hearing this week, a move Democratic lawmakers highlighted as further evidence that the president’s "Dec 03 08:55
schestowitzopinion, so…Dec 03 08:55
schestowitzyeah, even more work to amend than that previous version, which I manually fix and now use.Dec 03 08:55
schestowitzI wonder why  this came about in the first place.Dec 03 08:55
schestowitzAs I said, there was another such incident just over a week agoDec 03 08:55
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Sheikh_al_Touar/status/1201772265018462208Dec 03 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: New EPO Leak Shows That the Rumours and Jokes Are Partly True and We Know Who ‘Runs the Show’ #Leak #leaks #Rumours… https://t.co/Qfe7bKqjlHDec 03 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Sheikh_al_Touar: New EPO Leak Shows That the Rumours and Jokes Are Partly True and We Know Who ‘Runs the Show’ #Leak #leaks #Rumours… https://t.co/Qfe7bKqjlHDec 03 11:26
schestowitz"New EPO Leak Shows That the Rumours and Jokes Are Partly True and We Know Who ‘Runs the Show’ #Leak #leaks #Rumours #patents #Europe http://techrights.org/2019/12/03/bergot-fc/ …"Dec 03 11:26
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | New EPO Leak Shows That the Rumours and Jokes Are Partly True and We Know Who ‘Runs the Show’ | TechrightsDec 03 11:27
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lprzhedetsky/status/1201835182795317254Dec 03 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@lprzhedetsky: ‘Practical Challenges For Ethical AI’ - ⁦@GradientInst⁩ White Paper launches in Canberra tonight. An important outl… https://t.co/z8ADdA7tJxDec 03 12:16
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@lprzhedetsky: ‘Practical Challenges For Ethical AI’ - ⁦@GradientInst⁩ White Paper launches in Canberra tonight. An important outl… https://t.co/z8ADdA7tJxDec 03 12:16
schestowitz"‘Practical Challenges For Ethical AI’ - ⁦@GradientInst⁩ White Paper launches in Canberra tonight. An important outline of challenges that need to be addressed to create technically-informed #ethicalAI. Proud of this one! #techrights #technews #ai"Dec 03 12:16
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peraphsnot/status/1201837321735327744Dec 03 12:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@peraphsnot: @schestowitz You gave your power of when you plan to take down the president of United States along with your loverDec 03 12:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Oracle_Louie/status/1201836724852318210Dec 03 12:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Oracle_Louie: @peraphsnot @schestowitz Dems have recruiter her to push the trump narrative....intimidating witness bs morphed.Dec 03 12:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peraphsnot/status/1201835962944442368Dec 03 12:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@peraphsnot: @schestowitz Does she have short term memory loss? Lisa page once admitted that the FBI couldn’t prove… https://t.co/hnn8GQbdxy?Dec 03 12:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> thehill.com | Lisa Page bombshell: FBI couldn't prove Trump-Russia collusion before Mueller appointment | TheHillDec 03 12:18
schestowitz"Dec 03 12:18
schestowitzDoes she have short term memory loss? Lisa page once admitted that the FBI couldn’t prove…Dec 03 12:18
schestowitzhttps://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/406881-lisa-page-bombshell-fbi-couldnt-prove-trump-russia-collusion-before-mueller…?Dec 03 12:18
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schestowitz'Dec 03 12:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peraphsnot/status/1201835644072235008Dec 03 12:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@peraphsnot: @schestowitz Did she forget all her tweets? Trey Gowdy reacts to former FBI agent Lisa Page, who along with her lov… https://t.co/sReapK13mTDec 03 12:18
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@peraphsnot: @schestowitz Did she forget all her tweets? Trey Gowdy reacts to former FBI agent Lisa Page, who along with her lov… https://t.co/sReapK13mTDec 03 12:18
schestowitz"Did she forget all her tweets? Trey Gowdy reacts to former FBI agent Lisa Page, who along with her lover, Peter Strzok,  promised to stop President Trump from becoming  POTUS, even after he was elected:"Dec 03 12:18
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/peraphsnot/status/1201835140693008384Dec 03 12:19
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@peraphsnot: @schestowitz Did she forget this? https://t.co/wmU66YSzHCDec 03 12:19
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/kidde1_julie/status/1201831348043952128Dec 03 12:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@kidde1_julie: @Messgorough @schestowitz My local Tesco Express has a desktop PC that you can see when they doing deliveries that runs Windows 2000Dec 03 12:20
schestowitz"My local Tesco Express has a desktop PC that you can see when they doing deliveries that runs Windows 2000"Dec 03 12:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SophiaFrenche/status/1201829491842174983Dec 03 12:20
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SophiaFrenche: @schestowitz Except those pesty dictators.Dec 03 12:20
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1201819744090890240Dec 03 12:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz The answer is yes. IT-pol tested that a few years back with color scans. The easiest way to see them… https://t.co/kd4itBn9CXDec 03 12:22
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz The answer is yes. IT-pol tested that a few years back with color scans. The easiest way to see them… https://t.co/kd4itBn9CXDec 03 12:22
schestowitz"Dec 03 12:22
schestowitzThe answer is yes. IT-pol tested that a few years back with color scans.Dec 03 12:22
schestowitzThe easiest way to see them was to do split into RGB channels (GIMP does that automatically). In the blue channel the yellow is very visible (as missing blue).Dec 03 12:22
schestowitz"Dec 03 12:22
schestowitzHow would you overcome this?Dec 03 12:22
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MarkKen20510303/status/1201815595672637440Dec 03 12:23
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MarkKen20510303: @schestowitz Good god, how is that possible?Dec 03 12:23
schestowitzit is a race to the bottom, to impress the "rural voter" who thinks ti's a victim of genocide by MexicoDec 03 12:24
schestowitzit is a race to the bottom, to impress the "rural voter" who thinks it's a victim of genocide by MexicoDec 03 12:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/1201815246500843522Dec 03 12:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yuhong2: @jhamby @schestowitz @matthew_d_green Thinking about it, I suspect the only reason the restrictions got lifted was… https://t.co/lL1iCNAUkCDec 03 12:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yuhong2: @jhamby @schestowitz @matthew_d_green Thinking about it, I suspect the only reason the restrictions got lifted was… https://t.co/lL1iCNAUkCDec 03 12:24
schestowitz"Thinking about it, I suspect the only reason the restrictions got lifted was lawsuits like Bernstein. Just a year before that they raised the limit to 56-bit from 40-bit."Dec 03 12:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/1201813132663869440Dec 03 12:24
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yuhong2: @jhamby @schestowitz @matthew_d_green (Dual_EC_DRBG was officially published in 2004 I think)Dec 03 12:24
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/yuhong2/status/1201811968157290496Dec 03 12:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yuhong2: @jhamby It is worth mentioning that I suspect that Dual_EC_DRBG came in ~2003, not long after the encryption export… https://t.co/GqFgyffDa3Dec 03 12:25
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@yuhong2: @jhamby It is worth mentioning that I suspect that Dual_EC_DRBG came in ~2003, not long after the encryption export… https://t.co/GqFgyffDa3Dec 03 12:25
schestowitz"Dec 03 12:25
schestowitz@jhambyDec 03 12:25
schestowitz It is worth mentioning that I suspect that Dual_EC_DRBG came in ~2003, not long after the encryption export restrictions were lifted in 2000. Dec 03 12:25
schestowitz@schestowitzDec 03 12:25
schestowitz Dec 03 12:25
schestowitz@matthew_d_greenDec 03 12:25
schestowitz"Dec 03 12:25
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/unixterminal/status/1201715334413275136Dec 03 12:29
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixterminal: @schestowitz WSL use is exploding, stats are coming soon. You should follow me and come out to #WSLConf: https://t.co/dv3V36xePE.Dec 03 12:29
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1201846905715798016Dec 03 12:56
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @schestowitz i used to like @Ubuntu. sorry to hear this.. 💻😢Dec 03 12:56
schestowitzThey're not  profitable. They sell their body to Microsoft now.Dec 03 12:56
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1201848630979768320Dec 03 13:11
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @schestowitz @ubuntu #MicrosoftHos 💃💃💃💻🤓Dec 03 13:11
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Jinzang/status/1201850357548232711Dec 03 13:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Jinzang: Richard Stallman is still running the GNU project and doing well https://t.co/fxfW845UkFDec 03 13:31
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> techrights.org | Richard Stallman is Active and Doing Well | TechrightsDec 03 13:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/Messgorough/status/1201853255766151168Dec 03 13:40
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@Messgorough: @kidde1_julie @schestowitz Embarrassing.Dec 03 13:40
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/FreedExpression/status/1201858305230090242Dec 03 13:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@FreedExpression: @schestowitz Here is an interesting topic about promoting Freedom of Expression. I think you gonna like it https://t.co/TKIldGjtTBDec 03 13:41
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell--> www.toonsmag.com | Results of "Freedom of Expression" International Cartoon Contest 2017 - Toons MagDec 03 13:41
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1201861654612529152Dec 03 13:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz Print in black/white - even on colour printers they do not print yellow dots then. We also did not fin… https://t.co/nlJPBXz8vwDec 03 13:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz Print in black/white - even on colour printers they do not print yellow dots then. We also did not fin… https://t.co/nlJPBXz8vwDec 03 13:57
schestowitz|"Dec 03 13:57
schestowitzPrint in black/white - even on colour printers they do not print yellow dots then. We also did not find any jetink that printed the dots. That may have changed - but I doubt it.Dec 03 13:57
schestowitzIf your privacy is important, then print B/W or print on jetink.Dec 03 13:57
schestowitz"Dec 03 13:57
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1201861654612529152Dec 03 14:03
schestowitz"Dec 03 14:03
schestowitzPrint in black/white - even on colour printers they do not print yellow dots then. We also did not find any jetink that printed the dots. That may have changed - but I doubt it.Dec 03 14:03
schestowitzIf your privacy is important, then print B/W or print on jetink.Dec 03 14:03
schestowitz"Dec 03 14:03
schestowitzI don't do the printing, see how this threat startedDec 03 14:04
schestowitzThis morning I did do a greyscale conversion of the scan of the printout thoughDec 03 14:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1201865577100402690Dec 03 14:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@matthew_d_green: @yuhong2 @jhamby @schestowitz Dual EC seems to have been internally developed at NSA in the late 1990s.Dec 03 14:14
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1201865936199987200Dec 03 14:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz We never tested, if that is enough. It is likely enough for the naked eye, but with statistics and eno… https://t.co/aeMhgKJJScDec 03 14:14
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz We never tested, if that is enough. It is likely enough for the naked eye, but with statistics and eno… https://t.co/aeMhgKJJScDec 03 14:14
schestowitz"We never tested, if that is enough. It is likely enough for the naked eye, but with statistics and enough data even a slight change in shade may give it away. The pattern is repeated all over the page, so it might be possible to recover it. IIRC the pattern is around 1x2"."Dec 03 14:14
schestowitzRescaled rude jpg might blur it enoughDec 03 14:14
schestowitzRescaled crude jpg might blur it enoughDec 03 14:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1201908973902938112Dec 03 17:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Bruce Perens weighs in on the Debian/systemd debate: What Former Debian Project Leader (Second to the Late Ian Murd… https://t.co/RNea6hNQVSDec 03 17:15
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@BrideOfLinux: Bruce Perens weighs in on the Debian/systemd debate: What Former Debian Project Leader (Second to the Late Ian Murd… https://t.co/RNea6hNQVSDec 03 17:15
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/MarkKen20510303/status/1201932090591391744Dec 03 18:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@MarkKen20510303: Which licence is that? BSD maybe? https://t.co/6qUmk7aN9KDec 03 18:54
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: #deletegithub https://t.co/OBUQXD2aDIDec 03 18:54
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/StarchyArchie/status/1201907898638581760Dec 03 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@StarchyArchie: @Schestowitz https://t.co/cUlNFrik5nDec 03 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@techreview: When the Pentagon recently awarded @Microsoft a $10 billion contract for the US military’s cloud computing systems,… https://t.co/ohHzJJU4nCDec 03 18:57
schestowitz\https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1201907476712562688Dec 03 18:57
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: Well @schestowitz My own comment would be that Microsoft couldn't possibly keep anything secure... https://t.co/e2arl61nwFDec 03 18:57
schestowitz"Our products just aren't engineered for security." Brian Valentine, Microsoft executiveDec 03 18:58
schestowitzOK, so community edition is the only edition which exists I suppose.... still hosted in a proprietary platform that spies on and censors developers and usersDec 03 18:59
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/opensolaris/status/1201890688607981568Dec 03 19:00
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@opensolaris: @schestowitz Wrong - it’s the Community Edition because the company behind it stopped development and the community took over.Dec 03 19:00
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SMCADMAN/status/1201888992108720130Dec 03 19:01
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SMCADMAN: @schestowitz @wikileaks WBDec 03 19:01
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SMCADMAN/status/1201888992108720130Dec 03 19:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/elumos/status/1201879278629117954Dec 03 19:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@elumos: @guardian https://t.co/EUaHsq6LoYDec 03 19:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@schestowitz: @wikileaks #BoycottTheGuardian https://t.co/0NUYkaJ8XVDec 03 19:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/unixterminal/status/1201878012280610820Dec 03 19:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixterminal: @schestowitz The new open source Windows Terminal also open sources conhost.exe, a core component of Windows 10 The… https://t.co/WTZ47ktnb5Dec 03 19:02
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@unixterminal: @schestowitz The new open source Windows Terminal also open sources conhost.exe, a core component of Windows 10 The… https://t.co/WTZ47ktnb5Dec 03 19:02
schestowitz"The new open source Windows Terminal also open sources conhost.exe, a core component of Windows 10 The open-source version has GPU acceleration, the old proprietary one does not. So it's more than just Calculator."Dec 03 19:02
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/PatrickWingrove/status/1201877917376098305Dec 03 19:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PatrickWingrove: Roy, I'm a journalist. I don't seek to influence events, just to report on them. Also, may I ask, how does 'judge r… https://t.co/COA38odnChDec 03 19:03
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@PatrickWingrove: Roy, I'm a journalist. I don't seek to influence events, just to report on them. Also, may I ask, how does 'judge r… https://t.co/COA38odnChDec 03 19:03
schestowitz"Roy, I'm a journalist. I don't seek to influence events, just to report on them. Also, may I ask, how does 'judge reveals more insights' equate to 'sucking up' in your mind? You are a strange little fellow, aren't you :)"Dec 03 19:03
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1201868440463663104Dec 03 19:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz Yup, but I would not dare stake my life on it - especially if there is a lot of data(I am still in awe… https://t.co/zMU5L8pZ40Dec 03 19:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@samvittighed: @schestowitz Yup, but I would not dare stake my life on it - especially if there is a lot of data(I am still in awe… https://t.co/zMU5L8pZ40Dec 03 19:04
schestowitz"Yup, but I would not dare stake my life on it - especially if there is a lot of data(I am still in awe of the Visual Microphone). Conversion to 1 bit B/W ought to fix it, though: Here all the yellow will become white, and I cannot imagine how one could get the pattern after that."Dec 03 19:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/samvittighed/status/1201865936199987200Dec 03 19:04
schestowitz"We never tested, if that is enough. It is likely enough for the naked eye, but with statistics and enough data even a slight change in shade may give it away. The pattern is repeated all over the page, so it might be possible to recover it. IIRC the pattern is around 1x2"."Dec 03 19:04
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1201938828753342465Dec 03 19:05
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-@SleepyPenguin1: @schestowitz Give me a minute.... I'll stop rolling around under the desk...Dec 03 19:05
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