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TechrightssecSometime soon we could consider moving the DNS entry for tuxmachines.org toDec 04 02:37
Techrightssecpoint to the new site and have a new name, old.tuxmachines.org or similar, toDec 04 02:37
Techrightssecpoint to the old site and then monitor the http errors (e.g. 404) to see whatDec 04 02:37
Techrightssecif anything still needs to be ported over.  Dec 04 02:37
schestowitz-TRyes, tuxmachines needs further work, for sure...Dec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRI need to think what DNS can do to help, without breaking any existing linksDec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRas that would render a lot of "historic" articles, even distro reviews, orphaned or derankedDec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRdistrowatch still links to manyDec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRregarding "digital skills"Dec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRit's a buzzwords pair of sortsDec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRlike "IT"Dec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRthat typically accompanies BS talkDec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRand things like, "bank won't give you your balance, DOWNLOAD THE APP... Oh, and get a spyphone too"Dec 04 03:03
schestowitz-TRphone ownership = consumerism, salesDec 04 03:42
schestowitz-TRlibrary, books = "piracy", poverty (interfering with monopolies' way of controlling knowledge)Dec 04 03:42
TechrightssecAny ideas about how to ensure that existing links are not broken?  Dec 04 03:53
TechrightssecI would guess that looking at the logs for items which are not redirected Dec 04 03:53
Techrightssecor links to the new site which have no corresponding document would be one Dec 04 03:53
Techrightssecway.  If there are any and if there is a pattern then that could be addressed.Dec 04 03:53
TechrightssecWith the stumbling that WordPress has been doing lately, I would suggest thtDec 04 03:53
Techrightssecthe move be prioritized.  Dec 04 03:53
TechrightssecRight now four+ systems are maintained.  Lowering that to three+ would be Dec 04 03:53
Techrightssechelpful, I think.Dec 04 03:53
schestowitz-TRredirections are not advisableDec 04 03:55
schestowitz-TRfor several reasons Dec 04 03:55
schestowitz-TRthis is what makes things a bit trickierDec 04 03:55
schestowitz-TRalso, in drupal a page is not just a single object, there can be subpages and moreDec 04 03:55
TechrightssecOk.  Then, without redirections, we can check what remains on the old site.Dec 04 03:57
TechrightssecI don't think that it's feasible to maintain the old site indefinitely.  That'sDec 04 03:57
Techrightssecway too much overhead.Dec 04 03:57
schestowitz-TRa CMS like that is in some sense the mistakeDec 04 03:58
schestowitz-TRlotsof things that over the course of 20 years become hard to keep goingDec 04 03:58
TechrightssecAnwyay, would it be possible to have old.tuxmachines.org point to 23.161.112.115Dec 04 04:03
Techrightssecfor now?  That would allow some additional options.  Dec 04 04:03
TechrightssecFor many use-cases SQLite is more than enough.  I have been seeing a lot ofDec 04 04:03
Techrightssecblog posts lately, relatively speaking, about people moving from a CMS to  Dec 04 04:03
Techrightssecsomething smaller and often based on a set of homemade scripts (e.g. Python withDec 04 04:03
TechrightssecFlask) and SQLite.  Dec 04 04:03
schestowitz-TRgoing to add to dns in a few minsDec 04 04:04
schestowitz-TRrianne thinks the following was inspired by usDec 04 04:04
schestowitz-TRas it's very very very similar and came just 12 or so hours after going public:Dec 04 04:04
schestowitzhttp://www.mardy.it/blog/2022/12/leaving-canonical-again.htmlDec 04 04:04
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.mardy.it | Leaving Canonical, again | MardyDec 04 04:04
TechrightssecackDec 04 04:09
schestowitz-TRaddedDec 04 04:12
Techrightssecthanks!Dec 04 04:13
TechrightssecJust a glance at the old logs suggest that there is heavy bot trafficDec 04 04:39
TechrightssecThe main page of the  legacy site could use a more clear pointer or evenDec 04 04:53
Techrightssecredirection to the new site: http://www.tuxmachines.org/nodeDec 04 04:53
TechrightssecThe "Quick Roundup" points to articles from the summer rather than toDec 04 04:53
Techrightssecnews.tuxmachines.orgDec 04 04:53
TechrightssecPerhaps the 'gallery' would be the easiest to move next.Dec 04 04:53
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-www.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines | Do you waddle the waddle?Dec 04 04:53
schestowitz-TRwill be away from home some of the dayDec 04 04:55
schestowitz-TRgallery can be move, it uses a DB from the container of the DBsDec 04 04:55
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TechrightssecCan the gallery be converted to static HTML and preserved that way?  Dec 04 10:11
TechrightssecRestarted httpd and mysqld on tm-oldDec 04 10:11
Techrightssecmysqld was hogging the CPU; however that has not helped and the load is backDec 04 10:11
TechrightssecimmediatelkyDec 04 10:11
TechrightssecHTTP traffic is not heavy thoughDec 04 10:11
schestowitz-TRgallery has stuff like zoomDec 04 10:13
schestowitz-TRbut since nothing is being added I guess it is possible to experiment with DB-lessDec 04 10:13
schestowitz-TRthe past 2 days tm-old had that pattern we run the script forDec 04 10:13
schestowitz-TRit is running at my end, so no need for manual interventionDec 04 10:13
TechrightssecackDec 04 10:55
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schestowitz-TRi installed gallry1, 2 and 3 in my personal siteDec 04 11:52
schestowitz-TRit's not so bad, the software is quite reliableDec 04 11:52
schestowitz-TRI had to write some hacks or worksrounds for newer php versionsDec 04 11:52
TechrightssecShould the whole Gallery set up be moved to the new machine or would a Dec 04 11:53
Techrightssecstatic mirror be adequate?Dec 04 11:53
schestowitz-TRlinking is done to images rather than pages sometimesDec 04 11:55
schestowitz-TRthe db stays as isDec 04 11:55
schestowitz-TRthe server needs php (not sure range of compat) and that's abbout itDec 04 11:55
schestowitz-TRimagemagick and such would not be needed if we upload nothing further to processDec 04 11:55
TechrightssecImagemagick is used in TM for images accompanying new posts on tm-new.Dec 04 11:56
schestowitz-TRyes, i had that in mind, but the good news is, no need for heavy db to be installedDec 04 12:00
schestowitz-TRphp connected to one on the local networkDec 04 12:00
schestowitz-TRbut that might still meean it needs db-client, not db-server (host) Dec 04 12:00
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schestowitz-TR30minsDec 04 13:27
TechrightssecackDec 04 13:27
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schestowitz-TRwhose host?Dec 04 13:58
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TechrightssecackDec 04 14:57
schestowitz-TRdid you see the blog post about hoping blogging+rss would gain rather than mastodon?Dec 04 15:12
schestowitz-TRi think gruber wrote itDec 04 15:12
schestowitz-TRkotke is also back (blogging, not tweet shit)Dec 04 15:12
schestowitz-TRafter a long breakDec 04 15:12
schestowitz-TRiirc, david winer was the first "blogger" with rssDec 04 15:12
Techrightssecyes, it was goodDec 04 15:21
Techrightssecafaik it is the links for yesterday or todayDec 04 15:21
TechrightssecexcellentDec 04 15:21
TechrightssecThere was a blogger from the middle East who wrote about 10 years ago aboutDec 04 15:21
Techrightssecthe sad state of blogging;  He had just gotten released from prison at the  Dec 04 15:21
Techrightssecheight of social control media but had gone in a the (first) peak of blogs.Dec 04 15:21
TechrightssecTHe contrast before and after his time in jail was tremendous and shocking.Dec 04 15:21
TechrightssecNow the world has the chance to restore a little dignity and self-determinationDec 04 15:21
Techrightssecto written communication by blogging.  Since most CMSs have RSS or Atom capabilities, that is a further advantage. Dec 04 15:21
schestowitz-TRa theory of mineDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRwhich  is based on or inspired by thigns are readDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRis that the ad industry, and the biggest spy/advertiser (google)Dec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRworked to slowly kill rss without making it seem soDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRe.g. remove rss from browserDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRmaking it look scaryDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRbuy feedburnerDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRthan burn itDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRoffer google reader to kill similar competition likle feedlounge ()I was beta tester)Dec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRoerating at a LOSSDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRthen shutting down google readerDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRall seems like irrational behaviourDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRthan hiding rss from some google page like GulgaNoiseDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRand blogs tooDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRmaking those seem like they're no longer applicableDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRfor advertisers (Google also) it helpsDec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRbecause of JS etc.Dec 04 15:24
schestowitz-TRalso, experiments with in-rss ads failedDec 04 15:25
schestowitz-TRthose were done a lot around 2005Dec 04 15:25
schestowitz-TRlike alex kind (wordpresS)Dec 04 15:25
schestowitz-TRtrying to monetise their readers over rssDec 04 15:25
schestowitz-TRpeople who would not open actual 'web' pages (scripts)Dec 04 15:25
TechrightssecRSS is not filterable by Google, nor is it easy to interject advertisingDec 04 15:30
Techrightssecand tracking like with the various "frameworks".  Those two aspects are *so*Dec 04 15:30
Techrightsseccentral to Google's activities, that they have forced a rewriting of the HTTPDec 04 15:30
Techrightssecspec to accomodate both as well as javascript-based ad auctions during initialDec 04 15:30
Techrightssecloading of the pages prior to rendering.  RSS and Atom are good as they areDec 04 15:30
Techrightssecand do not need further extension, if they support Dublin Core.  The onlyDec 04 15:30
Techrightssecarea work is needed is in the modules supporing both.  Dec 04 15:30
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schestowitz-TRNew Paper: Autopsy-based Histopathological Characterization of Myocarditis After Anti-SARS-CoV-2-Vaccination https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/12/04/autopsy-study-germany/Dec 04 22:36
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » New Paper: Autopsy-based Histopathological Characterization of Myocarditis After Anti-SARS-CoV-2-VaccinationDec 04 22:36
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schestowitz-TRhttps://nitter.pussthecat.org/festinalenteaaa/status/1599505410767360000#mDec 04 23:48
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-nitter.pussthecat.org | Kylie (@festinalenteaaa): "The lancet has lost almost all scientific credibility over recent years man. It’s funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation. http://techrights.org/2011/01/10/lancet-gates-exxon-mobil/" | Nitter | PussTheCat.orgDec 04 23:48

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