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Techrights-sec | April 1st? | Jul 07 04:54 |
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Techrights-sec | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Systemd-Creator-Microsoft | Jul 07 04:54 |
Techrights-sec | Larabel is now also an M$ apologist | Jul 07 04:54 |
Techrights-sec | otr: https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=6366139 | Jul 07 04:54 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-Systemd Creator Lands At Microsoft - Phoronix | Jul 07 04:54 | |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell- ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=6366139 ) | Jul 07 04:54 | |
schestowitz-TR | yes, see what I said about larabel in my post | Jul 07 04:55 |
schestowitz-TR | (about this) | Jul 07 04:55 |
Techrights-sec | Jul 07 05:00 | |
Techrights-sec | checking | Jul 07 05:00 |
Techrights-sec | LOL | Jul 07 05:00 |
Techrights-sec | not good that Larabel has gone that route | Jul 07 05:00 |
schestowitz-TR | happened years ago already | Jul 07 05:01 |
schestowitz-TR | I confronted him about it and he made shitty exccuses | Jul 07 05:01 |
schestowitz-TR | tw, lots of comments on this in irc scrollback since 00:30 | Jul 07 05:01 |
Techrights-sec | checking | Jul 07 05:08 |
Techrights-sec | not much of substance though | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | I was aiming for speed | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | and irc is just... irc | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | just because michael does not offer wear a suit does not mean he isn't one | Jul 07 05:08 |
Techrights-sec | comments at phoronix? | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | but that's blaming the messenger | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | the comments there were minutes old and some were spot on (14 of them) | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | I want to see how the community reacts to all this | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | we already wrote a lot about the subject | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | github etc. that he joined Microsoft like Miguel and Nat is just "icing on the kaka" | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | or rather, maybe that helps expose him for what he really is or was all along | Jul 07 05:08 |
schestowitz-TR | phoronix long ago became one of those sites -- like patent lying sites -- where comments are better than the article | Jul 07 05:10 |
schestowitz-TR | more honest | Jul 07 05:10 |
schestowitz-TR | co coprpoprate money spilled in | Jul 07 05:10 |
Techrights-sec | I suspect that it only exposes him for what his has been all along | Jul 07 05:10 |
Techrights-sec | he's been out to decommodify linux and will work for whichever company | Jul 07 05:10 |
Techrights-sec | willing to pay for that regardless | Jul 07 05:10 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe not too late to stop some of this agenda, e.g. systemd-homed | Jul 07 05:14 |
schestowitz-TR | I wonder what Debian will say | Jul 07 05:14 |
schestowitz-TR | given their own state of chaos | Jul 07 05:14 |
schestowitz-TR | update posted yesterday in debian.coimmunity | Jul 07 05:14 |
schestowitz-TR | *no croporate money | Jul 07 05:14 |
schestowitz-TR | wait for SJVN to blog some BS grabage in ZDNet from his TWO chromebooks | Jul 07 05:14 |
schestowitz-TR | zemlin: huh? what is systemd? sorry, i'm not so technical... | Jul 07 05:14 |
schestowitz-TR | is this a computer kanguage? d? | Jul 07 05:14 |
schestowitz-TR | my garndpa was... [some lies] | Jul 07 05:14 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 07 05:15 |
schestowitz-TR | I did not tell rianne when I went to bed cause I was not sure how she would interpret it and if it would upset her | Jul 07 05:17 |
schestowitz-TR | to me, it's another new war in the battle | Jul 07 05:17 |
schestowitz-TR | and Microsoft Windows is dying rapidly | Jul 07 05:17 |
schestowitz-TR | so they need to screw the competition | Jul 07 05:17 |
schestowitz-TR | btw, chromebooks do NOT use system | Jul 07 05:17 |
schestowitz-TR | gulag has the resources to avoid it | Jul 07 05:17 |
schestowitz-TR | *systemd | Jul 07 05:17 |
Techrights-sec | Lennart has been trying to degrade Linux into becoming WIndows-like all along | Jul 07 05:17 |
Techrights-sec | so it is enraging but not a surprise | Jul 07 05:17 |
schestowitz-TR | I told kaniini that is he spins a new contrainer (tuxmachines or TM-new) better to make that alpine | Jul 07 05:20 |
schestowitz-TR | or some other system-less OS | Jul 07 05:20 |
schestowitz-TR | if we follow through with the plan the stack should be quite simple anyway | Jul 07 05:20 |
schestowitz-TR | LA-- | Jul 07 05:20 |
schestowitz-TR | or LA-Perl | Jul 07 05:20 |
schestowitz-TR | I put a lot of thought into implementation, jumping ahead of myself | Jul 07 05:20 |
schestowitz-TR | and also ways to merge the context of old and news | Jul 07 05:20 |
schestowitz-TR | tomorrow we find out about shift patterns to ffollow | Jul 07 05:20 |
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Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 07 05:22 |
schestowitz-TR | front page of /. just posted anti-Linux story from MSFT and kid arse-fucking arse technically pedo | Jul 07 05:23 |
Techrights-sec | not a surprise /. has been dead for many years and the husk is owned and | Jul 07 05:23 |
Techrights-sec | operated by microsofters | Jul 07 05:23 |
schestowitz-TR | well, /. is dead | Jul 07 05:25 |
schestowitz-TR | make sure SN does not become the same | Jul 07 05:25 |
Techrights-sec | takes effort and a bit of defense | Jul 07 05:26 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe Microsoft will offer the chief editor a "job" (bribe) at Micros~1 RESEAR~1 | Jul 07 05:27 |
Techrights-sec | no they will just troll the site to death like they did with /. | Jul 07 05:28 |
Techrights-sec | and burn out the editors; when they did that to /. they were able to | Jul 07 05:28 |
Techrights-sec | get them to sell but this time it would just go under | Jul 07 05:28 |
Techrights-sec | which is what they want to achieve through their astroturfing anyway | Jul 07 05:28 |
schestowitz-TR | pro-MSFT Mac Asay = timewasting, a productivity drain | Jul 07 05:29 |
schestowitz-TR | fustration, loss of interest | Jul 07 05:29 |
Techrights-sec | asay is on par with lennart; restricted boot and UEFI have been extremely | Jul 07 05:30 |
Techrights-sec | harmful to commodity hardware and commodity systems | Jul 07 05:30 |
schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Torvalds looks 60. He's now helping Hondahl promote his new paymaster. | Jul 07 05:38 |
Techrights-sec | over 60 or worse | Jul 07 05:46 |
schestowitz-TR | microsoft systemdefective: well, he's dead | Jul 07 05:47 |
schestowitz-TR | now they just need a kernel | Jul 07 05:47 |
Techrights-sec | https://artixlinux.org/ | Jul 07 05:47 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-artixlinux.org | Artix Linux - Home | Jul 07 05:47 | |
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schestowitz-TR | repairing DB (not creitical) | Jul 07 07:35 |
schestowitz-TR | the db is live is tgemporary | Jul 07 07:35 |
schestowitz-TR | I'll revert back to 27/6 copy later | Jul 07 07:35 |
schestowitz-TR | after running a screipt with wget to get all node posted since then | Jul 07 07:35 |
Techrights-sec | ack | Jul 07 07:35 |
Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 07 07:35 |
schestowitz-TR | and then make a list of apache redirection for these (to the copies in the new site) | Jul 07 07:35 |
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Techrights-sec | what options do you have with wget? | Jul 07 07:38 |
schestowitz-TR | assuming latest "stable" node was XXXXX | Jul 07 07:41 |
schestowitz-TR | we just wget XXXXX+1, +2, 3+... | Jul 07 07:41 |
schestowitz-TR | then make an apache list for each XXX | Jul 07 07:41 |
schestowitz-TR | and copy the donwloaded files to the new server | Jul 07 07:41 |
schestowitz-TR | this way no links will be broken | Jul 07 07:41 |
schestowitz-TR | but I want to get this finished beore the DB breaks down completely | Jul 07 07:41 |
schestowitz-TR | it's shedding off mostly search index-relared data for now | Jul 07 07:41 |
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schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> "Tor Network, having as its default search engine DuckDuckGo." Tor took bribes from Microsoft, via its proxy DDG, and now helps Microsoft spy on Tor users. Tor is compromised. https://trendoceans.com/install-tor-browser-linux/ http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo | Jul 07 08:23 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-trendoceans.com | How to Install Tor Browser in Linux with Security Guide - TREND OCEANS | Jul 07 08:23 | |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techrights.org | DuckDuckGo - Techrights | Jul 07 08:23 | |
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schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Tor Browser if not Tor Project is compromised. Bribed by Microsoft to help Microsoft spy... | Jul 07 08:39 |
schestowitz-TR | <techrights-news> Microsoft systemd has made "Linux" as unreliable as Windows https://techhq.com/2022/07/ubuntu-22-oomd-app-killer-mem<techrights-news> Microsoft systemd has made "Linux" as unreliable as Windows https://techhq.com/2022/07/ubuntu-22-oomd-app-killer-memory-pressure/ory-pressure/ | Jul 07 08:39 |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-techhq.com | Ubuntu 22.04 users find problem with OOMD app killer | Jul 07 08:39 | |
-TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-TechHQ - Technology and business | Jul 07 08:39 | |
schestowitz-TR | DDG did not DONATE to Tor. It passed MICROSOFT BRIBE MONEY TO TOR. And now Tor Browser helps the NSA, via Microsoft, spy on users. Microsoft is subsidised (or bailed out) with Pentagon budgets for 'dick moves' like these... | Jul 07 08:39 |
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schestowitz-TR | made some memes | Jul 07 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR | do you want to start prototyping the tuxmachines cms before we even get the machine? | Jul 07 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR | can start at my end, then push to git | Jul 07 10:22 |
Techrights-sec | back | Jul 07 10:22 |
Techrights-sec | is there a machine to work on or should I set up a temporary on here? | Jul 07 10:22 |
schestowitz-TR | can you set one up, please? apache needed, I can set news.tuxmachines.org to point to that IP address, no matter port number | Jul 07 10:23 |
Techrights-sec | the address changes periodically; it'll be on an odd port since the IPv4 | Jul 07 10:24 |
Techrights-sec | address is already in use on ports 80 and 443; | Jul 07 10:24 |
schestowitz-TR | that's OK, I can add ":" for port, just need ssh access to code over | Jul 07 10:26 |
schestowitz-TR | I will start coding crude prototype in bash here | Jul 07 10:26 |
Techrights-sec | yes HTTP can be tunneled over SSH using SOCKS5 | Jul 07 10:26 |
schestowitz-TR | got the main loop working | Jul 07 10:36 |
schestowitz-TR | nice and simple | Jul 07 10:36 |
schestowitz-TR | I assume you know how to leverage perl to make rss feeds | Jul 07 10:36 |
Techrights-sec | yes that's straightforward | Jul 07 10:36 |
schestowitz-TR | I'm thinking, | Jul 07 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | font page shows all items last updated in past 24 hours | Jul 07 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe with uppser limit imposed on number | Jul 07 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | then, for each day we keep an archive and sort of yearly calendar | Jul 07 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | catagories and tags are outdated and can be a waste of time | Jul 07 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | Google disregards SEO and does its own s*** | Jul 07 10:38 |
schestowitz-TR | main loop done, added css, meta etc. | Jul 07 10:50 |
schestowitz-TR | my laptop does not run apache, so I cannot show you | Jul 07 10:50 |
schestowitz-TR | I will push to git in a moment | Jul 07 10:50 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, adding | Jul 07 10:58 |
Techrights-sec | checking | Jul 07 11:00 |
Techrights-sec | missed a line, retry please | Jul 07 11:05 |
Techrights-sec | yes when the system connects the first time, one of those fingerprints whill | Jul 07 11:05 |
Techrights-sec | will get shown | Jul 07 11:05 |
schestowitz-TR | I got connection refused, but I assume I need to add those lines to knownhosts? | Jul 07 11:17 |
schestowitz-TR | files in place, domain news.tuxmachine.org working | Jul 07 11:17 |
schestowitz-TR | I think without being in sudoers I cannot feasibly configure apache to serve | Jul 07 11:17 |
schestowitz-TR | I tried a few things | Jul 07 11:17 |
schestowitz-TR | it'll need to be configured to use some strange port number for http/s | Jul 07 11:19 |
Techrights-sec | SOCKS5 will work for http/s | Jul 07 11:26 |
Techrights-sec | restarting apache2 | Jul 07 11:26 |
schestowitz-TR | what port number? | Jul 07 11:27 |
schestowitz-TR | see news.tuxmachine.org | Jul 07 11:27 |
schestowitz-TR | can work as alias for your port 80 site | Jul 07 11:27 |
schestowitz-TR | but I want to read what's in homedir/tuxmachines atm | Jul 07 11:27 |
schestowitz-TR | this way we can both see it | Jul 07 11:27 |
schestowitz-TR | looking under sites_enabled | Jul 07 11:36 |
schestowitz-TR | must I set it in firefox or can I just localhost:4445 after the tunnel is up and running? | Jul 07 11:36 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, adding | Jul 07 11:36 |
Techrights-sec | the firefox profile must point to a SOCKS proxy | Jul 07 11:37 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, so firefox has for socks v 5 localhost port 4445 | Jul 07 11:41 |
schestowitz-TR | I get nothing for the local IP after that | Jul 07 11:41 |
schestowitz-TR | no d block? | Jul 07 11:41 |
Techrights-sec | firefox always tries to force HTTPS if you are not extra careful | Jul 07 11:51 |
schestowitz-TR | the connection was reset | Jul 07 11:55 |
schestowitz-TR | hmmm... I've checked the settings again | Jul 07 11:55 |
schestowitz-TR | and ports etc. | Jul 07 11:55 |
schestowitz-TR | and the tunnel | Jul 07 11:55 |
schestowitz-TR | I even set both http proxy and sock5 host to localhost:4445 | Jul 07 11:55 |
schestowitz-TR | out of frustration | Jul 07 11:55 |
Techrights-sec | and in firefox, Edit->Settings->General->Network Settings-> | Jul 07 11:56 |
Techrights-sec | Manual proxy_> SOCK HOST 127.0.0.1 port 4445 ? | Jul 07 11:56 |
Techrights-sec | and you've connectwde with SSH using: | Jul 07 11:56 |
Techrights-sec | ssh -D 4445 -p 2230 news.techrights.org | Jul 07 11:56 |
Techrights-sec | ? | Jul 07 11:56 |
schestowitz-TR | tuxmachines | Jul 07 11:56 |
schestowitz-TR | you typd techrights | Jul 07 11:56 |
schestowitz-TR | but I corrected it | Jul 07 11:56 |
schestowitz-TR | ok, got it now | Jul 07 11:58 |
schestowitz-TR | let's get to work ;-) | Jul 07 11:58 |
Techrights-sec | and Proxy DNS is checked ? | Jul 07 11:58 |
Techrights-sec | and Enable DNS over HTTP is unchecked?L | Jul 07 11:58 |
Techrights-sec | yep | Jul 07 11:58 |
schestowitz-TR | go to webroot | Jul 07 12:01 |
schestowitz-TR | you can see one shell script | Jul 07 12:01 |
schestowitz-TR | self-explanatory | Jul 07 12:01 |
Techrights-sec | not the right place for scripts, but ok | Jul 07 12:01 |
Techrights-sec | SSI is now turned on | Jul 07 12:03 |
Techrights-sec | minor problem on this platform: RPi does not have incron :( | Jul 07 12:03 |
Techrights-sec | soon it is essential | Jul 07 12:03 |
Techrights-sec | this machine will not go live though | Jul 07 12:03 |
Techrights-sec | I've added HTML tidy | Jul 07 12:03 |
schestowitz-TR | the general idea is, under nodes new files are either added or modified (updated) | Jul 07 12:04 |
schestowitz-TR | find or another tool needs to sort them chronologically | Jul 07 12:04 |
schestowitz-TR | then, for nodes, cull out header and footer | Jul 07 12:04 |
schestowitz-TR | incron not essential yet | Jul 07 12:04 |
schestowitz-TR | as we can use a cron job and when putting it live update triggers can be changed | Jul 07 12:04 |
schestowitz-TR | yes, this machine won't be live | Jul 07 12:04 |
schestowitz-TR | rianne told me about borisnaro | Jul 07 12:04 |
Techrights-sec | the <meta> element is essential for processing by date | Jul 07 12:05 |
schestowitz-TR | the filesystem, I thought, stored time last modified | Jul 07 12:06 |
schestowitz-TR | but that's not important atm | Jul 07 12:06 |
schestowitz-TR | rss would be nice | Jul 07 12:06 |
schestowitz-TR | and way to strip out header and footer from nodes before or after concatenation | Jul 07 12:06 |
schestowitz-TR | and computed cheaply | Jul 07 12:06 |
Techrights-sec | the file system date is not relevant in this case and can be wrong | Jul 07 12:08 |
Techrights-sec | see nodes/1.html | Jul 07 12:08 |
Techrights-sec | RSS is easy | Jul 07 12:08 |
Techrights-sec | header and footer can be served via SSI | Jul 07 12:08 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't know SSI, so it's good that you do :-) | Jul 07 12:11 |
schestowitz-TR | I threw a footer in all 4 "nodes" | Jul 07 12:11 |
schestowitz-TR | and then you came back, so I did not go further than that and copied the file to the server | Jul 07 12:11 |
schestowitz-TR | in terms of layout, I can make is fancy-schmancy later | Jul 07 12:11 |
schestowitz-TR | the "core" is the node body | Jul 07 12:11 |
schestowitz-TR | in kde rianne and I can just have he directory open and add objects to it | Jul 07 12:11 |
schestowitz-TR | but for a better controlled workflow we can write a command line tool, like | Jul 07 12:11 |
schestowitz-TR | add note, which asks for frields like title and then does the rest | Jul 07 12:11 |
Techrights-sec | right look in the HTML source | Jul 07 12:16 |
Techrights-sec | for 1.html | Jul 07 12:16 |
Techrights-sec | do we want to use the +x hack or name the files .shtml or just apply SSI to | Jul 07 12:16 |
Techrights-sec | all the HTML files within the ./node hierarchy? | Jul 07 12:16 |
Techrights-sec | maybe that last option is best | Jul 07 12:16 |
schestowitz-TR | I don't see "header" and "footer" but top and bottom as those are the bits which go above and below the body, <title> needs to vary and it's in <head> | Jul 07 12:17 |
schestowitz-TR | yes, just checked the file | Jul 07 12:17 |
schestowitz-TR | your suggestion is a good one | Jul 07 12:17 |
schestowitz-TR | in terms of file names, we can write the "slug" as the filename | Jul 07 12:17 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe some tools can prepend or append date to the filename to avoid slug collisions | Jul 07 12:17 |
Techrights-sec | yes | Jul 07 12:19 |
Techrights-sec | a script can ask for the date, the title, the slug, and then open an editor | Jul 07 12:19 |
Techrights-sec | for the post, and then when the editor is closed (and the post passes validation) then write it all to a file named after the slug in a subdirectory under node | Jul 07 12:19 |
Techrights-sec | based on year/month/day | Jul 07 12:19 |
Techrights-sec | ok I must think a bit and then try some scripting | Jul 07 12:24 |
schestowitz-TR | yes, that would be a plendid workflow | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | faster than before | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | if two days later we open such a file over ssh | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | and add "Update: xxxxxxx" | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | the timestamp will change | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | so it'll be presented again at the front page | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | which is the behaviour we want | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | we can make this very very efficient | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | to limit the load on kaniini's hardware | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | later I can envison myself doing certain types of articles in TR with the same software | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | and the IRC log pages can be automated to that effect | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | gradually | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | maybe link pages too | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | time will tell, as DB usage should be restricted to nodes with [cref ] and other fancy things | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | if it's made "thin" enouch, pages can be served from local hosting | Jul 07 12:29 |
Techrights-sec | yes that is a goal | Jul 07 12:29 |
schestowitz-TR | and then larger files from media.tuxmachines.org or similar (hosted in a DC) | Jul 07 12:29 |
Techrights-sec | the size of the files only affects the bandwidth not the CPU or anything else | Jul 07 12:32 |
Techrights-sec | AFAIK | Jul 07 12:32 |
Techrights-sec | except disk IO | Jul 07 12:32 |
schestowitz-TR | the pages are not large most of the time, and I don't expect there to be any JS code inline | Jul 07 12:33 |
schestowitz-TR | css can be put in external file, as is done now | Jul 07 12:33 |
Techrights-sec | yes CSS can be an external file too | Jul 07 12:34 |
schestowitz-TR | even an iframe for irc, where nowadays we do chats instead of comments | Jul 07 12:36 |
schestowitz-TR | but there are privacy implication as we do not self-hhost the irc "applet/s" | Jul 07 12:37 |
schestowitz-TR | ping | Jul 07 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | I've made a 'cheap' cron job to update every min | Jul 07 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | add some 'real life' (latest) node examples | Jul 07 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | looks good | Jul 07 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | simple and clean so far, all static | Jul 07 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | it would also make it easier to 'mass add' nodes | Jul 07 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | edit several files | Jul 07 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | then dump them all at once on the server | Jul 07 13:07 |
Techrights-sec | pong | Jul 07 13:07 |
Techrights-sec | working with node/1.html as a mockup | Jul 07 13:07 |
Techrights-sec | too soon for cron | Jul 07 13:07 |
Techrights-sec | cron won't be used in the final version anyway, that's what inotify incron is | Jul 07 13:07 |
Techrights-sec | for | Jul 07 13:07 |
schestowitz-TR | cron is just there to spare me manually regenerating the thing | Jul 07 13:09 |
schestowitz-TR | if we use this sort of workflow, then using off-the-shift html->gemtext convertors | Jul 07 13:09 |
schestowitz-TR | would be simple too | Jul 07 13:09 |
schestowitz-TR | --- | Jul 07 13:38 |
schestowitz-TR | yes, I noticed some minutes ago, thanks ! | Jul 07 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR | making the heaings hyperlinks so that individual pages stand out on their own in the front page | Jul 07 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR | heading changed to h2 as the front page has h1 at the top | Jul 07 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR | changed files to shtml | Jul 07 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR | I remember coding pages like this 20 years ago | Jul 07 13:39 |
schestowitz-TR | like custom error pages | Jul 07 13:39 |
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Techrights-sec | ok | Jul 07 13:49 |
schestowitz-TR | I am working on Daily Links, your progress is phenomenal | Jul 07 13:50 |
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Techrights-sec | still experimenting | Jul 07 13:58 |
schestowitz-TR | rianne likes it | Jul 07 14:00 |
schestowitz-TR | it can hopefully make the irc channel of tuxmachines grow a "real" community | Jul 07 14:00 |
schestowitz-TR | like hack-a-day | Jul 07 14:00 |
schestowitz-TR | but they don't use irc, there's some other system | Jul 07 14:00 |
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Techrights-sec | ok is there an original of the image used to produce top3.jpeg somewhere? | Jul 07 14:04 |
Techrights-sec | The jpeg is full of artifacts and ought to be tidied, as well as | Jul 07 14:04 |
Techrights-sec | redone for some slight layout changes | Jul 07 14:04 |
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schestowitz-TR | if there was an original, it's long gone (it's from susan's times) | Jul 07 14:05 |
Techrights-sec | it's a nice picture but the file is damaged with compression artifacts | Jul 07 14:08 |
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Techrights-sec | I'll let it rest a bit and consider how the script should put it together | Jul 07 15:45 |
Techrights-sec | the latest.html would be generated automatically by incron | Jul 07 15:45 |
Techrights-sec | the text of this one does not make much sense on its own: | Jul 07 15:45 |
Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/07/07/miguel-de-lp/ | Jul 07 15:45 |
Techrights-sec | with TM, the old site uses /node/... so it must be renamed for the new site | Jul 07 15:45 |
Techrights-sec | so that the patterns used in the Rewrite Engine are simpler | Jul 07 15:45 |
schestowitz-TR | back | Jul 07 16:05 |
schestowitz-TR | excellent, I think that's the majority of the work done already | Jul 07 16:05 |
schestowitz-TR | rss feed and adding new nodes would be next | Jul 07 16:05 |
schestowitz-TR | I'll prod kaniini | Jul 07 16:05 |
Techrights-sec | working on the secondary rss feeds atm | Jul 07 16:05 |
Techrights-sec | rss-since-scraper.pl will be the base for that | Jul 07 16:05 |
Techrights-sec | too soon for that, let's have more of a prototype first | Jul 07 16:05 |
Techrights-sec | It'll take a day or two | Jul 07 16:07 |
schestowitz-TR | right, I agree. | Jul 07 16:07 |
schestowitz-TR | I've modified the index to sort the nodes by age last modified | Jul 07 17:16 |
schestowitz-TR | so if, e.g. I added "Upd[ate" to some node, it'll show up at the top again | Jul 07 17:16 |
schestowitz-TR | prior to it the list was just all nodes from past 24 hours | Jul 07 17:16 |
Techrights-sec | I've added the external feed option | Jul 07 17:32 |
Techrights-sec | 1.shtml | Jul 07 17:32 |
Techrights-sec | It might need tweaking | Jul 07 17:32 |
schestowitz-TR | aha! great idea | Jul 07 17:37 |
schestowitz-TR | also reuse of our toolset | Jul 07 17:37 |
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Techrights-sec | It links to the external feed, but I guess it could be modified to link to | Jul 07 17:43 |
Techrights-sec | the main HTML site instead | Jul 07 17:43 |
schestowitz-TR | the part that says "latest post", yes | Jul 07 17:45 |
schestowitz-TR | once we have rss feeds for new tuxmachines | Jul 07 17:45 |
schestowitz-TR | site querying itself for its own rss feed to present latest posts in the right sidebar, plus | Jul 07 17:45 |
schestowitz-TR | it would highlight the newly modified ones if the rss feed is derived from the slice in the front page | Jul 07 17:45 |
schestowitz-TR | which scans timestamps of files and sorts by them | Jul 07 17:45 |
Techrights-sec | yes, that's what it's for: the site's own RSS feed | Jul 07 17:57 |
Techrights-sec | I'll take a look at the scripts to create and update posts tomorrow | Jul 07 17:57 |
schestowitz-TR | this will give us a ton of flexibility | Jul 07 17:59 |
schestowitz-TR | drupal was not just bloated but constantly changing so any 'hacking' on the code, even if modularised, would break later | Jul 07 17:59 |
schestowitz-TR | there are several ways we can make TM better | Jul 07 17:59 |
schestowitz-TR | inc. building a community for discussions, likely the one in the TR IRC network | Jul 07 17:59 |
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Techrights-sec | you'll need much better (by orders of magnitude) curation of any IRC channe | Jul 07 18:00 |
Techrights-sec | used for TM; it'll work but it will cost time and effort and need several | Jul 07 18:00 |
Techrights-sec | volunteers to cover different time shifts; booting off-topic chatter | Jul 07 18:00 |
Techrights-sec | will probably be essential in particular in the beginning | Jul 07 18:00 |
schestowitz-TR | atm it is barely 'advertised', so it rarely gets anough momentum to get long discussions going | Jul 07 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | at our end (desktop) we'd also need to tweak some scripts, but the modifications would be minor | Jul 07 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | I reckon the old site can cope OK another 7 days before we revert back to its older and more complete state | Jul 07 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | the "missing" nodes can be downloaded algorithmically, uploaded after reverting back, then linked to with apache redirects | Jul 07 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | to avoid 404s, but those are all minor details | Jul 07 18:04 |
schestowitz-TR | the lion's share of readers is the rss crowd | Jul 07 18:04 |
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