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| Techrights-sec | Year 16 has begun | Nov 08 11:07 |
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| Techrights-sec | This was cited again in the list: | Nov 08 11:07 |
| Techrights-sec | gemini://rosenzweig.io/gemlog/2021-04-04-your-gemlog-may-not-be-accessible.gmi | Nov 08 11:07 |
| schestowitz | c | Nov 08 11:09 |
| schestowitz | # Update (2021-04-07) | Nov 08 11:10 |
| schestowitz | Techrights has corrected the issue here. Thank you to Roy Schestowitz. The considerations still apply to other capsules, of course. | Nov 08 11:10 |
| Techrights-sec | Yep, but the abuse of Unicode persists elsewhere mostly at other sites | Nov 08 11:11 |
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| Techrights-sec | November 8: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swartz,_Aaron | Nov 08 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBN/#boycottnovell-en.wikipedia.org | Aaron Swartz - Wikipedia | Nov 08 13:11 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | I fixed a little typo in gemini/git | Nov 08 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe we need to write a short manual sometime, for beginners, on how to replicate that gemini portal for an existing git repo. git is simple enough that it can attract people to gemini:// | Nov 08 13:19 |
| Techrights-sec | $ git pull | Nov 08 13:20 |
| Techrights-sec | Already up to date. | Nov 08 13:20 |
| Techrights-sec | ?? | Nov 08 13:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | the change was to a 'static' index file. I noticed the typo while recording a video. | Nov 08 13:21 |
| Techrights-sec | Should the Gemini capsule be in its own Git repository? | Nov 08 13:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | adding about 50k files and directories to git would likely not have much practical benefit, only performance toll | Nov 08 13:22 |
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| Techrights-sec | addin | Nov 08 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | In it's own, separate repository it would be cloneable. | Nov 08 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | $ du -sh ~/gemini/ | Nov 08 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | 1.3G /home/gemini/gemini/ | Nov 08 13:24 |
| Techrights-sec | Not small. :( | Nov 08 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | at the moment git:// direct is access-restricted, but the next step might be figuring out how replicate the capsule across to other nodes (assuming we trust them) | Nov 08 13:25 |
| Techrights-sec | The current one is tr-git or something. A second one could be created | Nov 08 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | for Gemini, but the size is maybe an issue. | Nov 08 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | ---- | Nov 08 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, but there can be multiple, unrelated Git repositories. | Nov 08 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | The current one is tr-git or something. A second one could be created | Nov 08 13:27 |
| Techrights-sec | for Gemini, but the size is maybe an issue. | Nov 08 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think pocock wanted to do it that way in case I corrected typos from his posts and he wanted them upstream with diff, but atm pages are edited by CMS (WP and MediaWiki) | Nov 08 13:28 |
| Techrights-sec | $ du -sh ~/gemini/* | sort -hr | head -n 5 | Nov 08 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | 477M /home/gemini/gemini/tr_text_version | Nov 08 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | 88M /home/gemini/gemini/2020 | Nov 08 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | 77M /home/gemini/gemini/2021 | Nov 08 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | 76M /home/gemini/gemini/2019 | Nov 08 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | 65M /home/gemini/gemini/2016 | Nov 08 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | That first directory can be omitted. | Nov 08 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | With something as light as Gemini, a version control system like Git has | Nov 08 13:30 |
| Techrights-sec | a lot of advantage for syndication. | Nov 08 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | IIRC, that first dir is 100% softlinks | Nov 08 13:31 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, they are hard links, or so it looks. | Nov 08 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | $ stat -c "%i %n" tr_text_version/irc-log-010121.html /home/glr/tr_text_version/irc-log-010121.html | Nov 08 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | 268438 tr_text_version/irc-log-010121.html | Nov 08 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | 268438 /home/glr/tr_text_version/irc-log-010121.html | Nov 08 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | Random sample of size one indicates that they are hard links. | Nov 08 13:38 |
| Techrights-sec | They might be hard links but neither the directory itself nor its contents | Nov 08 13:39 |
| Techrights-sec | are soft links as far as I can tell. Looking. | Nov 08 13:39 |
| Techrights-sec | That directory does not have to be included in a new Git repository. | Nov 08 13:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Or should it? | Nov 08 13:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | how often are any of these files likely to be changed? They are not wikis or documentation | Nov 08 13:42 |
| Techrights-sec | True. Probaby Rsync would be more appropriate for syndication? | Nov 08 13:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | wiki and wordpress have version control alrerady | Nov 08 13:43 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Nov 08 13:45 |
| Techrights-sec | So then Git would only risk confusion. Best then that any syndication process | Nov 08 13:45 |
| Techrights-sec | be distribution only. Rsync may be best/ | Nov 08 13:45 |
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| Techrights-sec | Should we put the GNU Manifesto or other similar documents in the Gemini mirror? | Nov 08 17:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be good! It's nowhere else in geminispace... let's accommodate the space... I saw one capsule that archived many historic USENET posts | Nov 08 17:11 |
| Techrights-sec | It's currently hard to find except via Wikipedia. | Nov 08 17:20 |
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| Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/archive/GNU_Manifesto.gmi | Nov 08 17:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | excellent, I wonder how these articles would be best tied together, IIRC there are now 3 of them in total, not sure what taxonomy suits it best as it's sort of "imported" | Nov 08 17:47 |
| Techrights-sec | I'm not sure there will be enough to warrant a taxonomy. At this point just | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | an unordered list linked somewhere direcly or indirectly from the main page | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | will do. The GNU Manifesto is an important historical document, as is | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | the Cathedral and the Bazaar | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | The Halloween I document is very important, also, because it outlines | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | the intentional steps M$ has taken to hold back, damage, and in some cases | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | destroy the market. | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | The world of computing would be 30 to 40 years ahead of where it is now | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | if M$ and BillG had never existed. | Nov 08 17:51 |
| Techrights-sec | The Cathedral and the Bazaar mentions *BSD a lot. | Nov 08 17:53 |
| Techrights-sec | TR can't and oughtn't mirror too much, but some of these core documents are | Nov 08 17:53 |
| Techrights-sec | important to have and to show to 'new' audiences which haven't seen them | Nov 08 17:53 |
| Techrights-sec | yet or which can benefit from looking at them with new eyes. | Nov 08 17:53 |
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| Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/archive/archive.gmi | Nov 08 18:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | Thanks, I have just done a video about it and I'll link to gemini://gemini.techrights.org/archive/archive.gmi | Nov 08 18:33 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Nov 08 18:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it's OK with you, we'll increase focus on gemini and video this coming year? | Nov 08 18:35 |
| Techrights-sec | The 'favicon.txt' file ought to be excluded from: | Nov 08 18:39 |
| Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/ | Nov 08 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | that would be easy to implement. the other day I wanted to add total number of UNIQUE requests, maybe one commit can get both things done? | Nov 08 18:40 |
| Techrights-sec | np | Nov 08 18:41 |
| Techrights-sec | Sounds good, just be sure that the videos have enough accompanying text | Nov 08 18:41 |
| Techrights-sec | to be relevant on their own in Gemini. | Nov 08 18:41 |
| Techrights-sec | The 'favicon.txt' file ought to be excluded from: | Nov 08 18:41 |
| Techrights-sec | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/ | Nov 08 18:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I noticed that in the script for states there's some odd line at the very end, with ">>>>" or similar | Nov 08 18:42 |
| Techrights-sec | I think so, AWK or Perl can do that. I'd need read access to the logs for that | Nov 08 18:42 |
| Techrights-sec | No idea, but it is in the non-functional archived code, after the 'exit' | Nov 08 18:45 |
| Techrights-sec | so it never runs. Perhaps it was a paste mistake? | Nov 08 18:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | Do you need access to the log for testing purposes or something else? | Nov 08 18:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Testing. | Nov 08 18:48 |
| Techrights-sec | Testing. I think temporary membership in the adm group ought to give | Nov 08 18:49 |
| Techrights-sec | read access to /var/log/syslog.1 | Nov 08 18:49 |
| Techrights-sec | export-stats.sh is the right script? | Nov 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I noticed that you has it archive past date's stats, which we can make another page for (index), just like lupa archive stats at the last date of each month | Nov 08 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ok. export-stats.sh has been tweaked but needs testing, can you take a look? | Nov 08 18:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've just run the export script and then updated the stats page too,were the changes 'deployed to the pi/live'? | Nov 08 18:59 |
| Techrights-sec | Yes, | Nov 08 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | I now see why I was confused. There was a copy of that file on the "pi" account, so I was running an old version | Nov 08 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | favicon still shows up and total unique is 100 less than the total sum | Nov 08 19:14 |
| Techrights-sec | ack | Nov 08 19:15 |
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| Techrights-sec | Strange. The sum should be ok. I've added a removal for the favicon.txt now | Nov 08 19:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems to have fixed it! Ready for git, I guess. Two improvements, one stonethrow. | Nov 08 19:29 |
| Techrights-sec | I see the error now. | Nov 08 19:31 |
| Techrights-sec | Ok. Please retry. | Nov 08 19:31 |
| Techrights-sec | Excellent | Nov 08 19:31 |
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| schestowitz | now with 'git show' I can see with colours the diffs. The cruft is left behind in git history, which I guess is the right way to do is and the advantage of git/source version management (nothing gets lost completely). We really should make a backup of serveerwside git sometimes | Nov 08 19:41 |
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| schestowitz | now with 'git show' I can see with colours the diffs. The cruft is left behind in git history, which I guess is the right way to do is and the advantage of git/source version management (nothing gets lost completely). We really should make a backup of serveerwside git sometimes | Nov 08 19:43 |
| Techrights-sec | I have done it occasionally but can do it again this week. It's not automated. | Nov 08 19:47 |
| Techrights-sec | IIRC | Nov 08 19:47 |
| Techrights-sec | Backed up now as of a few minutes ago. | Nov 08 19:56 |
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| Techrights-sec | ack | Nov 08 20:15 |
| Techrights-sec | It's good that there is a gemini link to the index of archived documents. | Nov 08 20:15 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe it would have been good to include web links in the post directing people | Nov 08 20:15 |
| Techrights-sec | to the originals? | Nov 08 20:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | at some stage we can create a PAGE, not POST, in WordPress, with an index of all those gemini pages, maybe keep those indices synched somehow... | Nov 08 20:17 |
| Techrights-sec | Maybe too much manual effort with that. | Nov 08 20:18 |
| Techrights-sec | afk | Nov 08 20:20 |
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